CARVILLE:   Welcome back to CROSSFIRE. Our guest is self-- appointed lie detector Ann Coulter, the author of "Slander", liberal lies about the American right. Well, Ann, let's go to the -- to the screen here and put something up or picture or two people here that you talk about in your book. All right, now you recognize one of the people as Katie Couric. You may not recognize -- oh, there's a woman named Eva Braun who was Adolph Hitler's mistress and then on the last day of their lives got married and then committed suicide together. You might call that the ultimate shotgun wedding. Ms. Coulter, in your book you say the affable Eva Braun of morning TV authoritatively informed President George Bush 41 that the Republican Convention had relinquished too much time to what some term the radical religious right. What is it that Katie Couric and Eva Braun have in common? 
COULTER:   Well, again, I have to recommend the entire book or at least these entire paragraphs to the viewers. I had just quoted Katie Couric blaming the dragging death of James Byrd on Christian conservatives, a quote which is in full in footnotes only partially in the text. You can look at it on page 238, which I think is an astonishing, an absolutely astonishing statement. So yes, the point I'm making by referring to her as the affable Eva Braun of morning TV right after that, really, I think, rather ugly quote about Christians...    ... is to say that she hides behind her girl scout persona in order to systematically promote a left-wing agenda. 
CARLSON:   But one of the points you make in the book and I agree with it wholeheartedly is that liberals are embarrassingly quick to compare the right to the Nazis. It's appalling and you hear it all the time and here you are doing it.  Now Katie Couric, you know may be annoying. Sure, she's a liberal, but Eva Braun, I mean that's over the top and it's self- discrediting, isn't it?   I mean that's not fair to compare to Hitler's wife. I mean if she's, again, if she's annoying or too liberal or whatever, but isn't that a liberal tactic to compare her to Hitler's wife? I mean please. 
COULTER:   No, I think it is not a liberal tactic at all, though it is a liberal tactic to be -- pretend to be absolutely humorless, Tucker. The quotes I used for liberals comparing conservatives ... 
CARLSON:   ... you are calling me humorless Ann? Come on. 
COULTER:   No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ... 
CARLSON:   I tried that ...    ... I couldn't understand. Come on Ann. 
COULTER:   That is a liberal tactic to pretend not to understand irony, hyperbole, sarcasm. The quotes I have of liberals calling Republicans Nazis or comparing Republican policies to the Holocaust of bringing back slavery to throwing women and children off the -- off the -- whatever it is -- they're always being thrown off something -- the   a truck. Those are not said in humor. They are not meant to be funny. They are meant to frighten people. 
CARVILLE:   So anyway, but if Pat Robertson is a pathetic ... 
COULTER:   Why do you keep calling the wrong name? 
CARVILLE:   ... us your idea of who is a good conservative. Who's a good ... 
COULTER:   Why do you keep calling ... 
CARVILLE:   ... give us a ... 
COULTER:   ... him the wrong name? His name is ... 
CARVILLE:   Pat -- I'm dyslexic.   tell me who a good solid conservative is. 
COULTER:   Well my book is about liberals. Very few conservatives are mentioned. There are plenty of great conservatives out there and perhaps ... 
CARVILLE:   Not a girly-boy ... 
COULTER:   What was the question? I'm sorry.    ... done with your question. 
CARVILLE:   Pat Robertson is a pathetic moderate. Rich Lowry is a girly-boy. Who is a real he-man liberal? I mean conservative -- who do you look up to? 
COULTER:   Is that the question so I can answer now. 
CARVILLE:   That's the   man. That's all she is. 
COULTER:   Because I'm going to answer, so you don't talk over me now, OK? The answer is there are a lot of terrific conservatives out there and I think the "Today Show" might want to look into having more of them on. I could fax lists to you, to all the network TV for lots and lots of terrific, intelligent, articulate conservatives who might -- they might want to consider to replace people like George Stephanopoulos and Dan Rather delivering objective news. 
CARVILLE:   Let the record show she didn't produce one name. Go ahead, Tucker. 
CARLSON:   Ann Coulter, thanks so much ... 
COULTER:   Well there are thousands ... 
CARLSON:   ... we appreciate it. 
COULTER:   ... how much time do we have? 
CARLSON:   Unfortunately, we don't have any. I'd like to hear the list too. Thanks for joining us. Just ahead on CROSSFIRE, attorney, acnhorman and former judge Catherine Crier throws the book at us and at one of the most aggressive trial lawyers in the country. Later Paul Begala gets hammered simultaneously by CROSSFIRE hosts on the right. You won't want to miss it. We'll be right back.
