CARLSON:   Welcome back. It's time for "Round 6." The guests have fled. It's just Paul Begala and me. Paul, you know, the thing that makes Democrats nervous about -- I think, one of the reasons that members in the Senate voted to affirm the Pledge of Allegiance is Democrats understand that people don't like this aspect of the Democratic Party, the wild guy, the liberal part of it, the part that's reflexively hostile toward bourgeois values, toward the family, toward patriotism, toward religion and they're running away. There's an amazing quote here from Joe Lieberman, typically overreacting. He said, "If this is not overturned, we will amend the Constitution to make clear that - and this is one nation of ours because we are one nation under God. We are one nation because of our faith of God - in God." Now, if Jerry Fallwell had said that, you would have leapt on him. This is Joe Lieberman, a proud Democrat from Connecticut. 
BEGALA:   So the fact that the Democrats think this stupid ruling from a silly Republican judge is silly is somehow against the Democrats. Look, it's not going to affect anybody's life. It will be overturned quickly. What will affect people's lives - out of 17,000 people from WorldCom who are going to be laid off, investors, like me, who lost their shirts in WorldCom and Republicans who stand there and say, "Oh, isn't that wonderful?" 
CARLSON:   You know what that is? 
BEGALA:   Greed is good. 
CARLSON:   You ought to be ashamed. 
BEGALA:   That's what... 
CARLSON:   I'll tell you exactly what it is. It's political ambulance chasing. Seventeen thousand people wounded hurt, some bankrupt. 
BEGALA:   They lost their jobs. 
CARLSON:   Democrats... 
BEGALA:   The Republicans kill reforms that President Clinton asked for. 
CARLSON:   That's a lie. That's a complete lie. Many Democrats are against those reforms, as you know. But the point is, these people are hurting and wounded. And what's the first thing Democrats see? A political opportunity. It's beyond vulgar. It's shameful. 
BEGALA:   The question... 
CARLSON:   It should stop. 
BEGALA:   ... of the election will be - which party do you trust to rein in the excesses of corporate America, the Republican Party of the Democratic Party? That's not going to be a close election.  
CARLSON:   I think people will remember the decade of greed, the 90s under Clinton.    Yeah, next, we'll rally around the flag and let you "Fireback" about the Court of Appeals decision on the Pledge of Allegiance. We'll be right back. 
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