<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_30_1334227</id>
	<title>Man Sues Neighbor Claiming Wi-Fi Made Him Sick</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1269958440000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>OrangeMonkey11 writes <i>"A Santa Fe man who claims to suffer from 'electromagnetic sensitivities' has <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/la-na-hometown-santa-fe28-2010mar28,0,7549400.story">sued his neighbor after she refused to stop using wireless devices</a>. 59-year-old Arthur Firstenberg claims his sensitivity can be set off by cellphones, routers and other electronic devices. From the article: 'Firstenberg, 59, wanted Raphaela Monribot to limit her use of the devices. "I asked her to work with me," he said. "Basically, she refused." So he sued Monribot in state district court, seeking $530,000 in damages and an injunction to force her to turn off the electronics. "Being the target of this lawsuit has affected me very adversely," Monribot said Friday in response to e-mailed questions. "I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason, and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights."'" </i></htmltext>
<tokenext>OrangeMonkey11 writes " A Santa Fe man who claims to suffer from 'electromagnetic sensitivities ' has sued his neighbor after she refused to stop using wireless devices .
59-year-old Arthur Firstenberg claims his sensitivity can be set off by cellphones , routers and other electronic devices .
From the article : 'Firstenberg , 59 , wanted Raphaela Monribot to limit her use of the devices .
" I asked her to work with me , " he said .
" Basically , she refused .
" So he sued Monribot in state district court , seeking $ 530,000 in damages and an injunction to force her to turn off the electronics .
" Being the target of this lawsuit has affected me very adversely , " Monribot said Friday in response to e-mailed questions .
" I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason , and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights .
" ' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OrangeMonkey11 writes "A Santa Fe man who claims to suffer from 'electromagnetic sensitivities' has sued his neighbor after she refused to stop using wireless devices.
59-year-old Arthur Firstenberg claims his sensitivity can be set off by cellphones, routers and other electronic devices.
From the article: 'Firstenberg, 59, wanted Raphaela Monribot to limit her use of the devices.
"I asked her to work with me," he said.
"Basically, she refused.
" So he sued Monribot in state district court, seeking $530,000 in damages and an injunction to force her to turn off the electronics.
"Being the target of this lawsuit has affected me very adversely," Monribot said Friday in response to e-mailed questions.
"I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason, and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights.
"'" </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673106</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269971160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;They often think twice before acting stupidly again.</p><p>You're making the assumption that you're dealing with someone who can tell the difference between a good idea and a bad one.</p><p>Amazingly, there are adults who can't do this. For example, many people never get out of the grade-school of 'if you understood my point, you'd agree with me' level of logic. Internet discussion fora are full of people who say dumb things and think that they've won their disputes and discussions.</p><p>I remember having a discussion with someone who was cutting my hair and somehow the subject got on to telepathy. I posited that if it existed, there'd be some form of work being done, ergo it could be measured, ergo there'd be an explanation.</p><p>This was immediately countered by the barber who said it was an unknown. And always would be.</p><p>Pure idiocy but this 'explanation' worked for him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; They often think twice before acting stupidly again.You 're making the assumption that you 're dealing with someone who can tell the difference between a good idea and a bad one.Amazingly , there are adults who ca n't do this .
For example , many people never get out of the grade-school of 'if you understood my point , you 'd agree with me ' level of logic .
Internet discussion fora are full of people who say dumb things and think that they 've won their disputes and discussions.I remember having a discussion with someone who was cutting my hair and somehow the subject got on to telepathy .
I posited that if it existed , there 'd be some form of work being done , ergo it could be measured , ergo there 'd be an explanation.This was immediately countered by the barber who said it was an unknown .
And always would be.Pure idiocy but this 'explanation ' worked for him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;They often think twice before acting stupidly again.You're making the assumption that you're dealing with someone who can tell the difference between a good idea and a bad one.Amazingly, there are adults who can't do this.
For example, many people never get out of the grade-school of 'if you understood my point, you'd agree with me' level of logic.
Internet discussion fora are full of people who say dumb things and think that they've won their disputes and discussions.I remember having a discussion with someone who was cutting my hair and somehow the subject got on to telepathy.
I posited that if it existed, there'd be some form of work being done, ergo it could be measured, ergo there'd be an explanation.This was immediately countered by the barber who said it was an unknown.
And always would be.Pure idiocy but this 'explanation' worked for him.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670572</id>
	<title>Re:Human interest filler story</title>
	<author>Cryophallion</author>
	<datestamp>1269963780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>PopSci just had a major article on it: <a href="http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-02/disconnected" title="popsci.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-02/disconnected</a> [popsci.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>PopSci just had a major article on it : http : //www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-02/disconnected [ popsci.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PopSci just had a major article on it: http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-02/disconnected [popsci.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671124</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Em Emalb</author>
	<datestamp>1269965460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I think the phrase "any press is good press" doesn't just apply to businesses.  People do stuff like this for the attention it brings them.</p><p>IMO, of course.</p><p>Why can't slashdot tie in a decent system where you're allowed to post more than once per two minutes if say...you're not posting AC or maybe if your<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. karma is above a certain level?  It's stupid.  (says Em as he waits the requisite 2 minutes....)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I think the phrase " any press is good press " does n't just apply to businesses .
People do stuff like this for the attention it brings them.IMO , of course.Why ca n't slashdot tie in a decent system where you 're allowed to post more than once per two minutes if say...you 're not posting AC or maybe if your / .
karma is above a certain level ?
It 's stupid .
( says Em as he waits the requisite 2 minutes.... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I think the phrase "any press is good press" doesn't just apply to businesses.
People do stuff like this for the attention it brings them.IMO, of course.Why can't slashdot tie in a decent system where you're allowed to post more than once per two minutes if say...you're not posting AC or maybe if your /.
karma is above a certain level?
It's stupid.
(says Em as he waits the requisite 2 minutes....)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671790</id>
	<title>You have to be very careful with these lawsuits</title>
	<author>goffster</author>
	<datestamp>1269967200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A while back, a "psychic" got an MRI<br>and sued doctors for malpractice when she<br>supposedly lost her powers after getting the MRI.<br>She won.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A while back , a " psychic " got an MRIand sued doctors for malpractice when shesupposedly lost her powers after getting the MRI.She won .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A while back, a "psychic" got an MRIand sued doctors for malpractice when shesupposedly lost her powers after getting the MRI.She won.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670990</id>
	<title>Re:Um...</title>
	<author>TheSHAD0W</author>
	<datestamp>1269965040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>2.4 GHz is a lot lower frequency than visible light.  UV is a higher frequency and longer wavelength than visible light.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2.4 GHz is a lot lower frequency than visible light .
UV is a higher frequency and longer wavelength than visible light .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2.4 GHz is a lot lower frequency than visible light.
UV is a higher frequency and longer wavelength than visible light.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673854</id>
	<title>Re:So presumably a lawyer took this case</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269973620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That sounds like a good idea, but it's really not, and here's why: an attorney works as your agent to the courts, not as your co-conspirator in life.</p><p>Allow me to make an extreme example to illuminate my point: If lawyers were responsible for the actions of their client, would you support a system where upon losing a case, criminal defense attorneys are jailed alongside their clients? Of course you wouldn't, because it would lead to a system where most criminals would be forced to represent themselves in the courtroom for lack of a third party willing to risk themselves, at serious disadvantage to a DA who prosecutes cases on a daily basis. There is very little motivation for taking such a huge risk of jail time simply for providing legal counsel. The same kind logic applies to civil cases.</p><p>Lawyers themselves aren't providing the motivation to bring a case before a judge, they merely make sure the paperwork is in order (gross over-generalization, but the point should be obvious).  They can already be fined for certain types of jackassery (see Orly Taitz). What you are looking for is not more penalties on lawyers, you're looking for more penalties on the idiots who try to sue for everything.</p><p>Making lawyers liable only benefits the motivated individuals who have massive amounts of cash to offer, making the risk worth taking (MAFIAA, anyone?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That sounds like a good idea , but it 's really not , and here 's why : an attorney works as your agent to the courts , not as your co-conspirator in life.Allow me to make an extreme example to illuminate my point : If lawyers were responsible for the actions of their client , would you support a system where upon losing a case , criminal defense attorneys are jailed alongside their clients ?
Of course you would n't , because it would lead to a system where most criminals would be forced to represent themselves in the courtroom for lack of a third party willing to risk themselves , at serious disadvantage to a DA who prosecutes cases on a daily basis .
There is very little motivation for taking such a huge risk of jail time simply for providing legal counsel .
The same kind logic applies to civil cases.Lawyers themselves are n't providing the motivation to bring a case before a judge , they merely make sure the paperwork is in order ( gross over-generalization , but the point should be obvious ) .
They can already be fined for certain types of jackassery ( see Orly Taitz ) .
What you are looking for is not more penalties on lawyers , you 're looking for more penalties on the idiots who try to sue for everything.Making lawyers liable only benefits the motivated individuals who have massive amounts of cash to offer , making the risk worth taking ( MAFIAA , anyone ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That sounds like a good idea, but it's really not, and here's why: an attorney works as your agent to the courts, not as your co-conspirator in life.Allow me to make an extreme example to illuminate my point: If lawyers were responsible for the actions of their client, would you support a system where upon losing a case, criminal defense attorneys are jailed alongside their clients?
Of course you wouldn't, because it would lead to a system where most criminals would be forced to represent themselves in the courtroom for lack of a third party willing to risk themselves, at serious disadvantage to a DA who prosecutes cases on a daily basis.
There is very little motivation for taking such a huge risk of jail time simply for providing legal counsel.
The same kind logic applies to civil cases.Lawyers themselves aren't providing the motivation to bring a case before a judge, they merely make sure the paperwork is in order (gross over-generalization, but the point should be obvious).
They can already be fined for certain types of jackassery (see Orly Taitz).
What you are looking for is not more penalties on lawyers, you're looking for more penalties on the idiots who try to sue for everything.Making lawyers liable only benefits the motivated individuals who have massive amounts of cash to offer, making the risk worth taking (MAFIAA, anyone?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672510</id>
	<title>Basic human rights?</title>
	<author>EmagGeek</author>
	<datestamp>1269969360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean, like, the basic human right to a cell phone? Basic human right to WiFi?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean , like , the basic human right to a cell phone ?
Basic human right to WiFi ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean, like, the basic human right to a cell phone?
Basic human right to WiFi?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31676808</id>
	<title>Re:How to tell if he's a liar</title>
	<author>Tetsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1269941160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1) Mount a satellite dish on the wall of a long room.<br>2) Place a chair at the opposite end of the room.<br>3) Have this guy sit in the chair for an hour.<br>4) See how much he complains about headaches, how much he acts up, how he has been brain-poisoned etc.<br>5) <b>Show him that the dish is not connected to anything, and never has been.</b></p> </div><p>Proves nothing.  It could be that the subject's own brainwaves are being projected toward the dish, where they reflect and converge on the receiving element, which resonates and (due to lack of a load on the receiving element) bounces the waves back at the dish and back at his head again, but out of phase due to propagation delay.  That would give anyone a headache!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Mount a satellite dish on the wall of a long room.2 ) Place a chair at the opposite end of the room.3 ) Have this guy sit in the chair for an hour.4 ) See how much he complains about headaches , how much he acts up , how he has been brain-poisoned etc.5 ) Show him that the dish is not connected to anything , and never has been .
Proves nothing .
It could be that the subject 's own brainwaves are being projected toward the dish , where they reflect and converge on the receiving element , which resonates and ( due to lack of a load on the receiving element ) bounces the waves back at the dish and back at his head again , but out of phase due to propagation delay .
That would give anyone a headache !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Mount a satellite dish on the wall of a long room.2) Place a chair at the opposite end of the room.3) Have this guy sit in the chair for an hour.4) See how much he complains about headaches, how much he acts up, how he has been brain-poisoned etc.5) Show him that the dish is not connected to anything, and never has been.
Proves nothing.
It could be that the subject's own brainwaves are being projected toward the dish, where they reflect and converge on the receiving element, which resonates and (due to lack of a load on the receiving element) bounces the waves back at the dish and back at his head again, but out of phase due to propagation delay.
That would give anyone a headache!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670774</id>
	<title>Re:Lucky for him</title>
	<author>Mitchell314</author>
	<datestamp>1269964320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And don't even bother telling him about the nuclear force.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And do n't even bother telling him about the nuclear force .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And don't even bother telling him about the nuclear force.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671192</id>
	<title>Re:So presumably a lawyer took this case</title>
	<author>LordLimecat</author>
	<datestamp>1269965640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So you think its a good idea for the LAWYERS to have to make that "guilty, not guilty" decision, and to hell with a mans right to have his case heard?<br> <br>

"Right to a fair trial" means PRECISELY that it should only be a jury making the decision on the merits of a plaintiffs claims, not the cops, not bystanders, and not lawyers.  A lawyers job is to make sure that those rights are given.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So you think its a good idea for the LAWYERS to have to make that " guilty , not guilty " decision , and to hell with a mans right to have his case heard ?
" Right to a fair trial " means PRECISELY that it should only be a jury making the decision on the merits of a plaintiffs claims , not the cops , not bystanders , and not lawyers .
A lawyers job is to make sure that those rights are given .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you think its a good idea for the LAWYERS to have to make that "guilty, not guilty" decision, and to hell with a mans right to have his case heard?
"Right to a fair trial" means PRECISELY that it should only be a jury making the decision on the merits of a plaintiffs claims, not the cops, not bystanders, and not lawyers.
A lawyers job is to make sure that those rights are given.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31676610</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>Tetsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1269940560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That's just artificial sources.  The earth is bombarded by radio waves, gamma rays, etc. all the time from outer space.  To avoid all EM, you'd have to find a deep cave with heavy shielding rock miles into the earth's crust.</p></div><p>Done and done.  Now I just need some sharks for my tank...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's just artificial sources .
The earth is bombarded by radio waves , gamma rays , etc .
all the time from outer space .
To avoid all EM , you 'd have to find a deep cave with heavy shielding rock miles into the earth 's crust.Done and done .
Now I just need some sharks for my tank.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's just artificial sources.
The earth is bombarded by radio waves, gamma rays, etc.
all the time from outer space.
To avoid all EM, you'd have to find a deep cave with heavy shielding rock miles into the earth's crust.Done and done.
Now I just need some sharks for my tank...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670512</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1269963600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We had something similar happening here, where people started complaining about the electromagnetic field from a cell repeater tower.</p><p>PR statement from the telco: "Gee, wonder what it'll be like when we turn it on in a few weeks..."</p><p>Needless to say that the court tossed the suit without a hearing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We had something similar happening here , where people started complaining about the electromagnetic field from a cell repeater tower.PR statement from the telco : " Gee , wonder what it 'll be like when we turn it on in a few weeks... " Needless to say that the court tossed the suit without a hearing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We had something similar happening here, where people started complaining about the electromagnetic field from a cell repeater tower.PR statement from the telco: "Gee, wonder what it'll be like when we turn it on in a few weeks..."Needless to say that the court tossed the suit without a hearing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670716</id>
	<title>Re:Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>Cryophallion</author>
	<datestamp>1269964200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The right to control what you do in your own home certainly is, and some may say that the pursuit of happiness may include youtube, etc.</p><p>Many use cell phones and remote internet access to do work, so being able to work to do your job is likely a right.</p><p>The concern comes when rights intersect - Playing loud music, putting a billboard in your yard, windfarm on the cape.... The issue here is that unless he can prove his malady, it is frivolous, and frankly, the power companies are going to be sued next, and they are going to contest this to death.</p><p>So, yes, being able to use your laptop in your own home can be considered a right that on your property, you can do what you want.</p><p>And didn't the Netherlands just say internet access was a basic human right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The right to control what you do in your own home certainly is , and some may say that the pursuit of happiness may include youtube , etc.Many use cell phones and remote internet access to do work , so being able to work to do your job is likely a right.The concern comes when rights intersect - Playing loud music , putting a billboard in your yard , windfarm on the cape.... The issue here is that unless he can prove his malady , it is frivolous , and frankly , the power companies are going to be sued next , and they are going to contest this to death.So , yes , being able to use your laptop in your own home can be considered a right that on your property , you can do what you want.And did n't the Netherlands just say internet access was a basic human right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The right to control what you do in your own home certainly is, and some may say that the pursuit of happiness may include youtube, etc.Many use cell phones and remote internet access to do work, so being able to work to do your job is likely a right.The concern comes when rights intersect - Playing loud music, putting a billboard in your yard, windfarm on the cape.... The issue here is that unless he can prove his malady, it is frivolous, and frankly, the power companies are going to be sued next, and they are going to contest this to death.So, yes, being able to use your laptop in your own home can be considered a right that on your property, you can do what you want.And didn't the Netherlands just say internet access was a basic human right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670798</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1269964440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you considered that what you're experiencing might be due to high frequency sound instead of EM radiation? There's a lot more evidence for that at least, and it's the only thing that could set the telco base station different from wifi. There is absolutely jack and shit for evidence that people can feel normal radio and other communications-style radiation.</p><p>The guy is not right. Period, end of story. And if you think he is, perhaps you should go talk to your doctor about the possibility of you suffering from a psychosomatic illness and treatment options.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you considered that what you 're experiencing might be due to high frequency sound instead of EM radiation ?
There 's a lot more evidence for that at least , and it 's the only thing that could set the telco base station different from wifi .
There is absolutely jack and shit for evidence that people can feel normal radio and other communications-style radiation.The guy is not right .
Period , end of story .
And if you think he is , perhaps you should go talk to your doctor about the possibility of you suffering from a psychosomatic illness and treatment options .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you considered that what you're experiencing might be due to high frequency sound instead of EM radiation?
There's a lot more evidence for that at least, and it's the only thing that could set the telco base station different from wifi.
There is absolutely jack and shit for evidence that people can feel normal radio and other communications-style radiation.The guy is not right.
Period, end of story.
And if you think he is, perhaps you should go talk to your doctor about the possibility of you suffering from a psychosomatic illness and treatment options.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31675404</id>
	<title>Re:Easily disproved...</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1269979680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Easier: She switches off the access point for one week, without telling him, of course. There should be a witness for this. Then after a week, she asks (or better lets her lawyer ask) him if he still feels sick (of course, in a way that he doesn't get suspicious; maybe even ask him "did your headaches get worse this week" so he suspects the radiation was increased). If he says yes, then it's proof that it's not the Wi-Fi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Easier : She switches off the access point for one week , without telling him , of course .
There should be a witness for this .
Then after a week , she asks ( or better lets her lawyer ask ) him if he still feels sick ( of course , in a way that he does n't get suspicious ; maybe even ask him " did your headaches get worse this week " so he suspects the radiation was increased ) .
If he says yes , then it 's proof that it 's not the Wi-Fi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easier: She switches off the access point for one week, without telling him, of course.
There should be a witness for this.
Then after a week, she asks (or better lets her lawyer ask) him if he still feels sick (of course, in a way that he doesn't get suspicious; maybe even ask him "did your headaches get worse this week" so he suspects the radiation was increased).
If he says yes, then it's proof that it's not the Wi-Fi.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670536</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>mea37</author>
	<datestamp>1269963660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm impressed.  There are so many solid arguments against those who claim sensitivity to consumer electronics, I didn't think anyone could possibly come forward asserting such a poor one as yours.</p><p>If you tried to apply your "lactose intolerant" analogy, don't you suppose your opponent would point out that the makers of your favorite foods don't project those foods into your home against your wishes?</p><p>If these sensitivities were real (though I very much doubt that they are), he would have a point.  Just because something has become socially common doesn't mean it's ok to do if it later turns out that it harms others in their own home.  The key phrase is <i>if they were real</i>; so this point is moot unless someone can show some credible scientific basis for anything beyond the psychosomatic.</p><p>I don't know if this guy really believes he's sensitive or if he's just a complete asshat.  It sure looks like he figured he saw a way to make a quick buck by convincing someone he knew uses electronics to move in to the next house over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm impressed .
There are so many solid arguments against those who claim sensitivity to consumer electronics , I did n't think anyone could possibly come forward asserting such a poor one as yours.If you tried to apply your " lactose intolerant " analogy , do n't you suppose your opponent would point out that the makers of your favorite foods do n't project those foods into your home against your wishes ? If these sensitivities were real ( though I very much doubt that they are ) , he would have a point .
Just because something has become socially common does n't mean it 's ok to do if it later turns out that it harms others in their own home .
The key phrase is if they were real ; so this point is moot unless someone can show some credible scientific basis for anything beyond the psychosomatic.I do n't know if this guy really believes he 's sensitive or if he 's just a complete asshat .
It sure looks like he figured he saw a way to make a quick buck by convincing someone he knew uses electronics to move in to the next house over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm impressed.
There are so many solid arguments against those who claim sensitivity to consumer electronics, I didn't think anyone could possibly come forward asserting such a poor one as yours.If you tried to apply your "lactose intolerant" analogy, don't you suppose your opponent would point out that the makers of your favorite foods don't project those foods into your home against your wishes?If these sensitivities were real (though I very much doubt that they are), he would have a point.
Just because something has become socially common doesn't mean it's ok to do if it later turns out that it harms others in their own home.
The key phrase is if they were real; so this point is moot unless someone can show some credible scientific basis for anything beyond the psychosomatic.I don't know if this guy really believes he's sensitive or if he's just a complete asshat.
It sure looks like he figured he saw a way to make a quick buck by convincing someone he knew uses electronics to move in to the next house over.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672180</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>dwiget001</author>
	<datestamp>1269968280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>|| I don't know if this guy really believes he's sensitive or if he's just a complete asshat. ||</p><p>Those two circumstances are not mutually exclusive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>| | I do n't know if this guy really believes he 's sensitive or if he 's just a complete asshat .
| | Those two circumstances are not mutually exclusive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>|| I don't know if this guy really believes he's sensitive or if he's just a complete asshat.
||Those two circumstances are not mutually exclusive.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670536</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31675048</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Shotgun</author>
	<datestamp>1269978060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>If these sensitivities were real (though I very much doubt that they are), he would have a point. Just because something has become socially common doesn't mean it's ok to do if it later turns out that it harms others in their own home.</p></div><p>Er, no offense, but no he wouldn't.  He'd have a sensitivity that it would be incumbent upon him to solve.  Otherwise what's to stop him from moving into an apartment in the center of a city and demanding that everyone in the building stop using electronics?  He's welcome to retrofit his home to make it a Faraday cage if he wishes, but he has no right to restrict the law-abiding behavior of his neighbor in *her* home just because he's (supposedly) a genetic freak who can sense EMF radiation.</p></div><p>You should consult the American's With Disabilities Act.  Basically, it says that if you are fucked up, all the rest of us are responsible for accommodating you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If these sensitivities were real ( though I very much doubt that they are ) , he would have a point .
Just because something has become socially common does n't mean it 's ok to do if it later turns out that it harms others in their own home.Er , no offense , but no he would n't .
He 'd have a sensitivity that it would be incumbent upon him to solve .
Otherwise what 's to stop him from moving into an apartment in the center of a city and demanding that everyone in the building stop using electronics ?
He 's welcome to retrofit his home to make it a Faraday cage if he wishes , but he has no right to restrict the law-abiding behavior of his neighbor in * her * home just because he 's ( supposedly ) a genetic freak who can sense EMF radiation.You should consult the American 's With Disabilities Act .
Basically , it says that if you are fucked up , all the rest of us are responsible for accommodating you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If these sensitivities were real (though I very much doubt that they are), he would have a point.
Just because something has become socially common doesn't mean it's ok to do if it later turns out that it harms others in their own home.Er, no offense, but no he wouldn't.
He'd have a sensitivity that it would be incumbent upon him to solve.
Otherwise what's to stop him from moving into an apartment in the center of a city and demanding that everyone in the building stop using electronics?
He's welcome to retrofit his home to make it a Faraday cage if he wishes, but he has no right to restrict the law-abiding behavior of his neighbor in *her* home just because he's (supposedly) a genetic freak who can sense EMF radiation.You should consult the American's With Disabilities Act.
Basically, it says that if you are fucked up, all the rest of us are responsible for accommodating you.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672056</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269967980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some people though as stupid as there claims are continue despite the negative publicity. Why ? Because they are screwed in the head to begin with. Just shoot the guy and toss him in a deep deep hole. People like this deserve no right to harass people whos only crime is living there life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some people though as stupid as there claims are continue despite the negative publicity .
Why ?
Because they are screwed in the head to begin with .
Just shoot the guy and toss him in a deep deep hole .
People like this deserve no right to harass people whos only crime is living there life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some people though as stupid as there claims are continue despite the negative publicity.
Why ?
Because they are screwed in the head to begin with.
Just shoot the guy and toss him in a deep deep hole.
People like this deserve no right to harass people whos only crime is living there life.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670232</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670192</id>
	<title>If there is an island for these people...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269962580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suggest they go to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest they go to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest they go to it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671366</id>
	<title>Re:I think I have a solution</title>
	<author>hattig</author>
	<datestamp>1269966180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can buy WiFi signal blocking paint at a tenth of the cost.</p><p>However if the guy was going to use gold at 1um thickness, I wonder if the gold could be patterned with holes (like the metal in a microwave door that blocks the microwaves but still lets you see in perfectly adequately), further reducing the cost?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can buy WiFi signal blocking paint at a tenth of the cost.However if the guy was going to use gold at 1um thickness , I wonder if the gold could be patterned with holes ( like the metal in a microwave door that blocks the microwaves but still lets you see in perfectly adequately ) , further reducing the cost ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can buy WiFi signal blocking paint at a tenth of the cost.However if the guy was going to use gold at 1um thickness, I wonder if the gold could be patterned with holes (like the metal in a microwave door that blocks the microwaves but still lets you see in perfectly adequately), further reducing the cost?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670380</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670612</id>
	<title>She's an idiot...</title>
	<author>cyberjock1980</author>
	<datestamp>1269963900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the summary:</p><p>"Being the target of this lawsuit has affected me very adversely," Monribot said Friday in response to e-mailed questions. "I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason, and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights."'"</p><p>She has a basic human right to wifi!?  Her life and liberty are under attack because she has wifi!?  Are you Fscking kidding me!?</p><p>Despite the fact that this EMF sensitive guy is crazy, she's not exactly a "winner" either.</p><p>If having wifi is a basic human right for life and liberty the world has gone to shit like I had never thought.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the summary : " Being the target of this lawsuit has affected me very adversely , " Monribot said Friday in response to e-mailed questions .
" I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason , and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights .
" ' " She has a basic human right to wifi ! ?
Her life and liberty are under attack because she has wifi ! ?
Are you Fscking kidding me !
? Despite the fact that this EMF sensitive guy is crazy , she 's not exactly a " winner " either.If having wifi is a basic human right for life and liberty the world has gone to shit like I had never thought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the summary:"Being the target of this lawsuit has affected me very adversely," Monribot said Friday in response to e-mailed questions.
"I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason, and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights.
"'"She has a basic human right to wifi!?
Her life and liberty are under attack because she has wifi!?
Are you Fscking kidding me!
?Despite the fact that this EMF sensitive guy is crazy, she's not exactly a "winner" either.If having wifi is a basic human right for life and liberty the world has gone to shit like I had never thought.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31686440</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>MrNiceguy\_KS</author>
	<datestamp>1270045200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That glow is probably tritium.  Tritium-powered would be a better description, as tritium itself doesn't glow.  The paint consists tritium and a phosphorescent agent that glows due to the energy released by the tritium decay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That glow is probably tritium .
Tritium-powered would be a better description , as tritium itself does n't glow .
The paint consists tritium and a phosphorescent agent that glows due to the energy released by the tritium decay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That glow is probably tritium.
Tritium-powered would be a better description, as tritium itself doesn't glow.
The paint consists tritium and a phosphorescent agent that glows due to the energy released by the tritium decay.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671520</id>
	<title>CFL bulbs and electrosmog</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269966540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the guy really is sensitive to electromagnetic 'smog', the problem probably started when he changed his house bulbs for CFLs -- those CFLs are knows for producing large amounts of EMF radiation (along with dimmers, as TA mentioned).  Just Google "CFL electrosmog" and read for awhile.</p><p>Two of the worst creators of transient radiation: light dimmer switches and compact fluorescent lightbulbs (CFLs). Transients are created when current is repeatedly interrupted. A CFL, for instance, saves energy by turning itself on and off repeatedly, as many as 100,000 times per second.</p><p>WiFi and the like are very minor by comparison.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the guy really is sensitive to electromagnetic 'smog ' , the problem probably started when he changed his house bulbs for CFLs -- those CFLs are knows for producing large amounts of EMF radiation ( along with dimmers , as TA mentioned ) .
Just Google " CFL electrosmog " and read for awhile.Two of the worst creators of transient radiation : light dimmer switches and compact fluorescent lightbulbs ( CFLs ) .
Transients are created when current is repeatedly interrupted .
A CFL , for instance , saves energy by turning itself on and off repeatedly , as many as 100,000 times per second.WiFi and the like are very minor by comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the guy really is sensitive to electromagnetic 'smog', the problem probably started when he changed his house bulbs for CFLs -- those CFLs are knows for producing large amounts of EMF radiation (along with dimmers, as TA mentioned).
Just Google "CFL electrosmog" and read for awhile.Two of the worst creators of transient radiation: light dimmer switches and compact fluorescent lightbulbs (CFLs).
Transients are created when current is repeatedly interrupted.
A CFL, for instance, saves energy by turning itself on and off repeatedly, as many as 100,000 times per second.WiFi and the like are very minor by comparison.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671218</id>
	<title>Re:Can you even sue your neighbor for this stuff?</title>
	<author>ShadowRangerRIT</author>
	<datestamp>1269965700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, excessive noise is grounds for a legit lawsuit. I suspect keeping mounds of manure in your backyard could be prosecuted solely on the smell. This lawsuit is groundless, but the general principle (things that affect your neighbors cannot be done if the negative effect passes a certain threshold) is sound.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , excessive noise is grounds for a legit lawsuit .
I suspect keeping mounds of manure in your backyard could be prosecuted solely on the smell .
This lawsuit is groundless , but the general principle ( things that affect your neighbors can not be done if the negative effect passes a certain threshold ) is sound .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, excessive noise is grounds for a legit lawsuit.
I suspect keeping mounds of manure in your backyard could be prosecuted solely on the smell.
This lawsuit is groundless, but the general principle (things that affect your neighbors cannot be done if the negative effect passes a certain threshold) is sound.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31675550</id>
	<title>Stupid Idiots</title>
	<author>MasterMynd</author>
	<datestamp>1269980160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live in Santa Fe, unfortunately people around here give these cranks far to much leeway. Case in point, ATT Wireless wanted to put a cell tower on top of a building at Santa Fe High School which sits on top of a hill. They'd pay the school district thousands of dollars a month to allow them to do this. So, although the school district is in a budget crisis the School Board decided against it because they were concerned about the backlash from the public for inflicting electromagnetic energies on the students. The City wanted to set up a city wide public WiFi network, but while admitting that there was no proven correlation between EMF and health problems the City decided to let these wingnuts get their way and they stopped it because of the 'health effects'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Santa Fe , unfortunately people around here give these cranks far to much leeway .
Case in point , ATT Wireless wanted to put a cell tower on top of a building at Santa Fe High School which sits on top of a hill .
They 'd pay the school district thousands of dollars a month to allow them to do this .
So , although the school district is in a budget crisis the School Board decided against it because they were concerned about the backlash from the public for inflicting electromagnetic energies on the students .
The City wanted to set up a city wide public WiFi network , but while admitting that there was no proven correlation between EMF and health problems the City decided to let these wingnuts get their way and they stopped it because of the 'health effects' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Santa Fe, unfortunately people around here give these cranks far to much leeway.
Case in point, ATT Wireless wanted to put a cell tower on top of a building at Santa Fe High School which sits on top of a hill.
They'd pay the school district thousands of dollars a month to allow them to do this.
So, although the school district is in a budget crisis the School Board decided against it because they were concerned about the backlash from the public for inflicting electromagnetic energies on the students.
The City wanted to set up a city wide public WiFi network, but while admitting that there was no proven correlation between EMF and health problems the City decided to let these wingnuts get their way and they stopped it because of the 'health effects'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672192</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1269968280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It's not reasonable to ask the maker of your food to bend to your whim when the rest of his millions of customers are happy with the way it is.</p></div></blockquote><p>As someone who suffers from it myself, I think it's reasonable to expect that it's mentioned on the pack.  Milk powder finds its way to places where you really wouldn't expect it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not reasonable to ask the maker of your food to bend to your whim when the rest of his millions of customers are happy with the way it is.As someone who suffers from it myself , I think it 's reasonable to expect that it 's mentioned on the pack .
Milk powder finds its way to places where you really would n't expect it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not reasonable to ask the maker of your food to bend to your whim when the rest of his millions of customers are happy with the way it is.As someone who suffers from it myself, I think it's reasonable to expect that it's mentioned on the pack.
Milk powder finds its way to places where you really wouldn't expect it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670974</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1269965040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No they don't.  Most people are horribly undereducated about the world around them.  I blame High Fructose Corn syrup consumption.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No they do n't .
Most people are horribly undereducated about the world around them .
I blame High Fructose Corn syrup consumption .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No they don't.
Most people are horribly undereducated about the world around them.
I blame High Fructose Corn syrup consumption.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670168</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674510</id>
	<title>Re:use UTP then</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269975900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, are you the guy that writes the horoscopes for this free calendar I got at the oriental market?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , are you the guy that writes the horoscopes for this free calendar I got at the oriental market ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, are you the guy that writes the horoscopes for this free calendar I got at the oriental market?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670374</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672954</id>
	<title>Whatever</title>
	<author>killmenow</author>
	<datestamp>1269970800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't care because Lost is on tonight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care because Lost is on tonight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care because Lost is on tonight.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670196</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672610</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269969660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had a neighbor worried that my HAM antenna was going to potentially give her cancer, and headaches.  I simply explained that my antenna was designed not to give off radiation but to collect it from the front and then refract it backwards.  She was happy with that and her headaches from the radiation that she was getting have gone away since my antenna is collecting so much of it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a neighbor worried that my HAM antenna was going to potentially give her cancer , and headaches .
I simply explained that my antenna was designed not to give off radiation but to collect it from the front and then refract it backwards .
She was happy with that and her headaches from the radiation that she was getting have gone away since my antenna is collecting so much of it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a neighbor worried that my HAM antenna was going to potentially give her cancer, and headaches.
I simply explained that my antenna was designed not to give off radiation but to collect it from the front and then refract it backwards.
She was happy with that and her headaches from the radiation that she was getting have gone away since my antenna is collecting so much of it!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670512</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31677038</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269941760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No they don't.  Most people are horribly undereducated about the world around them.  I blame High Fructose Corn syrup consumption.</p></div><p>But... but... what about Bisphenol-A?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No they do n't .
Most people are horribly undereducated about the world around them .
I blame High Fructose Corn syrup consumption.But... but... what about Bisphenol-A ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No they don't.
Most people are horribly undereducated about the world around them.
I blame High Fructose Corn syrup consumption.But... but... what about Bisphenol-A?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671106</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>ShadowRangerRIT</author>
	<datestamp>1269965340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Has anyone ever done so successfully? I'm allergic to just about every form of pollinating plant (though thankfully, the life threatening asthma stopped about ten years ago). I wouldn't cut down the elm tree in my yard at the time, let alone expect my neighbor to clear cut their property to solve my asthma properly (after all, I wasn't just allergic to specific trees, but the grass and shrubs as well, so they'd have had to move to non-pollinating plants or a desert theme).  And I had actual medical evidence of my allergies (the whole "throat closing up" thing kind of gave it away), as opposed to a personal nutty belief. I don't think lawsuits should get beyond the filing stage in either case.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone ever done so successfully ?
I 'm allergic to just about every form of pollinating plant ( though thankfully , the life threatening asthma stopped about ten years ago ) .
I would n't cut down the elm tree in my yard at the time , let alone expect my neighbor to clear cut their property to solve my asthma properly ( after all , I was n't just allergic to specific trees , but the grass and shrubs as well , so they 'd have had to move to non-pollinating plants or a desert theme ) .
And I had actual medical evidence of my allergies ( the whole " throat closing up " thing kind of gave it away ) , as opposed to a personal nutty belief .
I do n't think lawsuits should get beyond the filing stage in either case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone ever done so successfully?
I'm allergic to just about every form of pollinating plant (though thankfully, the life threatening asthma stopped about ten years ago).
I wouldn't cut down the elm tree in my yard at the time, let alone expect my neighbor to clear cut their property to solve my asthma properly (after all, I wasn't just allergic to specific trees, but the grass and shrubs as well, so they'd have had to move to non-pollinating plants or a desert theme).
And I had actual medical evidence of my allergies (the whole "throat closing up" thing kind of gave it away), as opposed to a personal nutty belief.
I don't think lawsuits should get beyond the filing stage in either case.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670816</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673380</id>
	<title>RF/EMF Shield paint</title>
	<author>drkoemans</author>
	<datestamp>1269972060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It exists and solves this guy's problem, you know, if he wants to live inside. Buy him a can of this stuff and tell him to go nuts.
<a href="http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/RF/Products\_RF\_Shielding\_Paint\_HSF54.htm" title="safeliving...ologies.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/RF/Products\_RF\_Shielding\_Paint\_HSF54.htm</a> [safeliving...ologies.ca]</htmltext>
<tokenext>It exists and solves this guy 's problem , you know , if he wants to live inside .
Buy him a can of this stuff and tell him to go nuts .
http : //www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/RF/Products \ _RF \ _Shielding \ _Paint \ _HSF54.htm [ safeliving...ologies.ca ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It exists and solves this guy's problem, you know, if he wants to live inside.
Buy him a can of this stuff and tell him to go nuts.
http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/RF/Products\_RF\_Shielding\_Paint\_HSF54.htm [safeliving...ologies.ca]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671072</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1269965280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think this is along the same lines as banning peanuts from schools.  It should be the problem of those alergic, given they're the minority. go find a peanut free school, or be home schooled.  I fail to see why the majority should bend over backwards because you have a sucky conidition.</p><p>Likewise, this guy should simply move to some place without routers all around.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this is along the same lines as banning peanuts from schools .
It should be the problem of those alergic , given they 're the minority .
go find a peanut free school , or be home schooled .
I fail to see why the majority should bend over backwards because you have a sucky conidition.Likewise , this guy should simply move to some place without routers all around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this is along the same lines as banning peanuts from schools.
It should be the problem of those alergic, given they're the minority.
go find a peanut free school, or be home schooled.
I fail to see why the majority should bend over backwards because you have a sucky conidition.Likewise, this guy should simply move to some place without routers all around.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673400</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>BarefootClown</author>
	<datestamp>1269972120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a little more to it than even that.  (Caution: law student, and we were talking about nuisance in Property class just last night.)</p><p>In order to be a nuisance, the behavior has to create a substantial harm to a person <i>of ordinary sensitivity</i>.  The classic case is <i>Amphitheaters, Inc. v. Portland Meadows</i>, 198 P.2d 847 (Ore. 1948), in which the defendant, a horse track, had bright lights which spilled over and illuminated plaintiff's drive-in movie screen.  The Oregon Supreme Court held that the light spillover did not constitute a nuisance merely because it damaged <i>one who was abnormally sensitive</i> (emphasis mine).  The analysis was somewhat more complicated, but that's the important bit: abnormal sensitivity creates a duty for the <i>injured</i> party to mitigate, not for the injuring party.</p><p>This, of course, assumes that Firstenberg is bringing his suit under nuisance; other standards apply to other claims.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a little more to it than even that .
( Caution : law student , and we were talking about nuisance in Property class just last night .
) In order to be a nuisance , the behavior has to create a substantial harm to a person of ordinary sensitivity .
The classic case is Amphitheaters , Inc. v. Portland Meadows , 198 P.2d 847 ( Ore. 1948 ) , in which the defendant , a horse track , had bright lights which spilled over and illuminated plaintiff 's drive-in movie screen .
The Oregon Supreme Court held that the light spillover did not constitute a nuisance merely because it damaged one who was abnormally sensitive ( emphasis mine ) .
The analysis was somewhat more complicated , but that 's the important bit : abnormal sensitivity creates a duty for the injured party to mitigate , not for the injuring party.This , of course , assumes that Firstenberg is bringing his suit under nuisance ; other standards apply to other claims .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a little more to it than even that.
(Caution: law student, and we were talking about nuisance in Property class just last night.
)In order to be a nuisance, the behavior has to create a substantial harm to a person of ordinary sensitivity.
The classic case is Amphitheaters, Inc. v. Portland Meadows, 198 P.2d 847 (Ore. 1948), in which the defendant, a horse track, had bright lights which spilled over and illuminated plaintiff's drive-in movie screen.
The Oregon Supreme Court held that the light spillover did not constitute a nuisance merely because it damaged one who was abnormally sensitive (emphasis mine).
The analysis was somewhat more complicated, but that's the important bit: abnormal sensitivity creates a duty for the injured party to mitigate, not for the injuring party.This, of course, assumes that Firstenberg is bringing his suit under nuisance; other standards apply to other claims.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670536</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673052</id>
	<title>Re:Turn off your SSID broadcast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269971040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>She might be better off sticking to her guns and countersuing him for harassment.</p></div><p>I hope she counter-sues this idiot right into the loony bin. He would deserve it for interrupting my day with this level of crazy and stupid all at once.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>She might be better off sticking to her guns and countersuing him for harassment.I hope she counter-sues this idiot right into the loony bin .
He would deserve it for interrupting my day with this level of crazy and stupid all at once .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>She might be better off sticking to her guns and countersuing him for harassment.I hope she counter-sues this idiot right into the loony bin.
He would deserve it for interrupting my day with this level of crazy and stupid all at once.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671274</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674124</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>NotBornYesterday</author>
	<datestamp>1269974460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if he has a sensitivity to radon<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if he has a sensitivity to radon .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if he has a sensitivity to radon ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671082</id>
	<title>Re:So presumably a lawyer took this case</title>
	<author>interval1066</author>
	<datestamp>1269965340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's what I'm talking about. I used to have this presumption that lawyers were people too and rational like most. Obviously I'm wrong. Wouldn't a lawyer with a brain advise his client to sue the device manufacturer rather than the neighbor? This is assuming his neighbor isn't a person of means, of course.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what I 'm talking about .
I used to have this presumption that lawyers were people too and rational like most .
Obviously I 'm wrong .
Would n't a lawyer with a brain advise his client to sue the device manufacturer rather than the neighbor ?
This is assuming his neighbor is n't a person of means , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what I'm talking about.
I used to have this presumption that lawyers were people too and rational like most.
Obviously I'm wrong.
Wouldn't a lawyer with a brain advise his client to sue the device manufacturer rather than the neighbor?
This is assuming his neighbor isn't a person of means, of course.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670190</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671174</id>
	<title>Re:Mercy</title>
	<author>CubicleView</author>
	<datestamp>1269965580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm going to sue you for making me physically ill with all your good will.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going to sue you for making me physically ill with all your good will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going to sue you for making me physically ill with all your good will.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670200</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670924</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>Mitchell314</author>
	<datestamp>1269964860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because we know that her wireless isn't affecting him one iota?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because we know that her wireless is n't affecting him one iota ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because we know that her wireless isn't affecting him one iota?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670476</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31676124</id>
	<title>Watch out for radon in that cave.</title>
	<author>newdsfornerds</author>
	<datestamp>1269982260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The cave would ideally be in a granite mountain where the radon from the granite would quickly kill them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The cave would ideally be in a granite mountain where the radon from the granite would quickly kill them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cave would ideally be in a granite mountain where the radon from the granite would quickly kill them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672710</id>
	<title>show him how to build a faraday cage</title>
	<author>Dan667</author>
	<datestamp>1269969960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Problem solved and he will also be trapped in there so he cannot bother the rest of us.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Problem solved and he will also be trapped in there so he can not bother the rest of us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Problem solved and he will also be trapped in there so he cannot bother the rest of us.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31675776</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269980940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Very well said!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Very well said !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very well said!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670106</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674224</id>
	<title>Re:Basic human rights?</title>
	<author>secretcurse</author>
	<datestamp>1269974820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would consider being left the hell alone when you're in your home and not doing anything illegal a basic human right.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would consider being left the hell alone when you 're in your home and not doing anything illegal a basic human right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would consider being left the hell alone when you're in your home and not doing anything illegal a basic human right.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672510</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671338</id>
	<title>I feel for the woman</title>
	<author>zcold</author>
	<datestamp>1269966120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But I cant help but notice the statement that she feels her basic human rights are being violated... Umm sweety., wifi is not a basic human right... water...now theres something we should be talking about... hA!</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I cant help but notice the statement that she feels her basic human rights are being violated... Umm sweety. , wifi is not a basic human right... water...now theres something we should be talking about... hA !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I cant help but notice the statement that she feels her basic human rights are being violated... Umm sweety., wifi is not a basic human right... water...now theres something we should be talking about... hA!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670380</id>
	<title>I think I have a solution</title>
	<author>Takionbrst</author>
	<datestamp>1269963180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Follow me here:

The average household is somewhere around 2400 square feet. Let's assume for simplicity sake that it's a box measuring 49'x49'x10'. That makes for about 6800 square feet of interior surface area. The skin depth for gold at 2.4 GHz is pretty close to 200nm, but to be sure that the vast majority of the signal is stopped lets assume a coating of 1um thickness. 6800 square feet multiplied by 1um yields a volume of about 6e-4 m^3 of gold. Multiplying this by the density of gold (~20gm/cm^3) yields about 12 kilograms of gold. The last time I checked, gold was something close to $1200 dollars an ounce, which works out to be about $508k.

So all the guy really wants to do is use the settlement money to WiFi proof his house. And have a gold plated interior. And a little bit left over for hookers and blow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Follow me here : The average household is somewhere around 2400 square feet .
Let 's assume for simplicity sake that it 's a box measuring 49'x49'x10' .
That makes for about 6800 square feet of interior surface area .
The skin depth for gold at 2.4 GHz is pretty close to 200nm , but to be sure that the vast majority of the signal is stopped lets assume a coating of 1um thickness .
6800 square feet multiplied by 1um yields a volume of about 6e-4 m ^ 3 of gold .
Multiplying this by the density of gold ( ~ 20gm/cm ^ 3 ) yields about 12 kilograms of gold .
The last time I checked , gold was something close to $ 1200 dollars an ounce , which works out to be about $ 508k .
So all the guy really wants to do is use the settlement money to WiFi proof his house .
And have a gold plated interior .
And a little bit left over for hookers and blow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Follow me here:

The average household is somewhere around 2400 square feet.
Let's assume for simplicity sake that it's a box measuring 49'x49'x10'.
That makes for about 6800 square feet of interior surface area.
The skin depth for gold at 2.4 GHz is pretty close to 200nm, but to be sure that the vast majority of the signal is stopped lets assume a coating of 1um thickness.
6800 square feet multiplied by 1um yields a volume of about 6e-4 m^3 of gold.
Multiplying this by the density of gold (~20gm/cm^3) yields about 12 kilograms of gold.
The last time I checked, gold was something close to $1200 dollars an ounce, which works out to be about $508k.
So all the guy really wants to do is use the settlement money to WiFi proof his house.
And have a gold plated interior.
And a little bit left over for hookers and blow.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672494</id>
	<title>Re:You have to be very careful with these lawsuits</title>
	<author>goffster</author>
	<datestamp>1269969300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>google:  CAT scan psychic lawsuit</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>google : CAT scan psychic lawsuit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>google:  CAT scan psychic lawsuit</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671790</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671248</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1269965820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well your tree theory raises an interesting point.</p><p>My neighbor has a tree in her yard.  Its branches reach to my house.  At point, they touched the house and windy day knocked some of the siding off.  I paid to fix it, and paid to have the tree cut back... but my point here is this:  should I have to pay yearly to keep her tree from poking my house again?  Its her tree, why should I have the expense of making sure it doesn't cross onto my property?</p><p>Now, the problem with this EM case is that there's likely Wifi from other neighbors, but the cell phone signals are there regardless of if she's using them or not.  The other wrinkle is that, even if he IS affected, its a rare thing.</p><p>So I agree, if I have a rare allergy to a cherry blossom tree, I may just have to deal.  But at the same time if its dropping pieces of itself into my yard, why should I have to do EXTRA for a tree I chose not to have?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well your tree theory raises an interesting point.My neighbor has a tree in her yard .
Its branches reach to my house .
At point , they touched the house and windy day knocked some of the siding off .
I paid to fix it , and paid to have the tree cut back... but my point here is this : should I have to pay yearly to keep her tree from poking my house again ?
Its her tree , why should I have the expense of making sure it does n't cross onto my property ? Now , the problem with this EM case is that there 's likely Wifi from other neighbors , but the cell phone signals are there regardless of if she 's using them or not .
The other wrinkle is that , even if he IS affected , its a rare thing.So I agree , if I have a rare allergy to a cherry blossom tree , I may just have to deal .
But at the same time if its dropping pieces of itself into my yard , why should I have to do EXTRA for a tree I chose not to have ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well your tree theory raises an interesting point.My neighbor has a tree in her yard.
Its branches reach to my house.
At point, they touched the house and windy day knocked some of the siding off.
I paid to fix it, and paid to have the tree cut back... but my point here is this:  should I have to pay yearly to keep her tree from poking my house again?
Its her tree, why should I have the expense of making sure it doesn't cross onto my property?Now, the problem with this EM case is that there's likely Wifi from other neighbors, but the cell phone signals are there regardless of if she's using them or not.
The other wrinkle is that, even if he IS affected, its a rare thing.So I agree, if I have a rare allergy to a cherry blossom tree, I may just have to deal.
But at the same time if its dropping pieces of itself into my yard, why should I have to do EXTRA for a tree I chose not to have?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673582</id>
	<title>We've been here before</title>
	<author>Belgaren</author>
	<datestamp>1269972720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This seemed familiar somehow...</p><p><a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/08/05/24/1234212/Group-Wants-Wi-Fi-Banned-Citing-Allergy" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Same town</a> [slashdot.org], same complaint.  According to the article he's part of this first group.</p><p><a href="http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/09/07/27/1514209/English-DJ-Claims-Wi-Fi-Allergy" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Another claim of sensitivity</a> [slashdot.org] <a href="http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/09/07/31/1528241/Wi-Fi-Allergy-a-PR-Stunt" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">that didn't go very far.</a> [slashdot.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This seemed familiar somehow...Same town [ slashdot.org ] , same complaint .
According to the article he 's part of this first group.Another claim of sensitivity [ slashdot.org ] that did n't go very far .
[ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This seemed familiar somehow...Same town [slashdot.org], same complaint.
According to the article he's part of this first group.Another claim of sensitivity [slashdot.org] that didn't go very far.
[slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670118</id>
	<title>At least...</title>
	<author>pushing-robot</author>
	<datestamp>1269962280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...we can hope that this will set a precedent.  (Though it will probably just be dismissed.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...we can hope that this will set a precedent .
( Though it will probably just be dismissed .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...we can hope that this will set a precedent.
(Though it will probably just be dismissed.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672254</id>
	<title>clueless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269968580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right think about it. His neighbor uses an iPhone. We can assume from this she receives reception in her house. That means a FAR more powerful telecom transmitter/receiver nearby is permeating this guys head 24/7. Even if it's only 'one bar' of reception, the intermittent transmissions from the Iphone would be rendered negligible in comparison.</p><p>Having easily found his place on google maps he&rsquo;s not remotely located at all, he&rsquo;s deep into the town, and near a regional medical center which has a helipad. That place is going to be packed with comms equipment. Then there&rsquo;s the ACTIVE train yard a 5 mins walk from his place, which is going to have a power sub station feeding it. You can&rsquo;t live at the end of a road and be remote dude. Radio waves don&rsquo;t follow traffic flow.</p><p>I don&rsquo;t deny the research into the negative effects of some forms of infrastructure, but judging by his choice of home, this guy doesn&rsquo;t even know the basics on how to avoid exposure. You know what I think? I think he WANTED his female friend to move in next door, he made weak pass and she jilted him, maybe without evening knowing. Now he&rsquo;s using any means he can to mess up her life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right think about it .
His neighbor uses an iPhone .
We can assume from this she receives reception in her house .
That means a FAR more powerful telecom transmitter/receiver nearby is permeating this guys head 24/7 .
Even if it 's only 'one bar ' of reception , the intermittent transmissions from the Iphone would be rendered negligible in comparison.Having easily found his place on google maps he    s not remotely located at all , he    s deep into the town , and near a regional medical center which has a helipad .
That place is going to be packed with comms equipment .
Then there    s the ACTIVE train yard a 5 mins walk from his place , which is going to have a power sub station feeding it .
You can    t live at the end of a road and be remote dude .
Radio waves don    t follow traffic flow.I don    t deny the research into the negative effects of some forms of infrastructure , but judging by his choice of home , this guy doesn    t even know the basics on how to avoid exposure .
You know what I think ?
I think he WANTED his female friend to move in next door , he made weak pass and she jilted him , maybe without evening knowing .
Now he    s using any means he can to mess up her life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right think about it.
His neighbor uses an iPhone.
We can assume from this she receives reception in her house.
That means a FAR more powerful telecom transmitter/receiver nearby is permeating this guys head 24/7.
Even if it's only 'one bar' of reception, the intermittent transmissions from the Iphone would be rendered negligible in comparison.Having easily found his place on google maps he’s not remotely located at all, he’s deep into the town, and near a regional medical center which has a helipad.
That place is going to be packed with comms equipment.
Then there’s the ACTIVE train yard a 5 mins walk from his place, which is going to have a power sub station feeding it.
You can’t live at the end of a road and be remote dude.
Radio waves don’t follow traffic flow.I don’t deny the research into the negative effects of some forms of infrastructure, but judging by his choice of home, this guy doesn’t even know the basics on how to avoid exposure.
You know what I think?
I think he WANTED his female friend to move in next door, he made weak pass and she jilted him, maybe without evening knowing.
Now he’s using any means he can to mess up her life.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31675294</id>
	<title>Re:Turn off your SSID broadcast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269979320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You don't need the SSID broadcast on to detect WiFi. The signal doesn't magically go way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't need the SSID broadcast on to detect WiFi .
The signal does n't magically go way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't need the SSID broadcast on to detect WiFi.
The signal doesn't magically go way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671274</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673082</id>
	<title>Re:Lucky for him</title>
	<author>jeffasselin</author>
	<datestamp>1269971100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone should tell him about the particle that transmits the electromagnetic force, aka photons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone should tell him about the particle that transmits the electromagnetic force , aka photons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone should tell him about the particle that transmits the electromagnetic force, aka photons.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670136</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671048</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1269965220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unless this guy has already ripped out all of the electrical wiring in his home, he is generating his own generation.  In fact he owns an entire cage of radiation.  I would guess that this guy sleeps with his head less than 4 feet away from a radiation source that he owns and that he personally has turned on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless this guy has already ripped out all of the electrical wiring in his home , he is generating his own generation .
In fact he owns an entire cage of radiation .
I would guess that this guy sleeps with his head less than 4 feet away from a radiation source that he owns and that he personally has turned on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless this guy has already ripped out all of the electrical wiring in his home, he is generating his own generation.
In fact he owns an entire cage of radiation.
I would guess that this guy sleeps with his head less than 4 feet away from a radiation source that he owns and that he personally has turned on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670536</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672344</id>
	<title>bot?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269968820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Raphaela MonriBOT</p><p>she's a bot, she cant turn it off</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Raphaela MonriBOTshe 's a bot , she cant turn it off</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Raphaela MonriBOTshe's a bot, she cant turn it off</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672186</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>compro01</author>
	<datestamp>1269968280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And the most interesting part: while climbing the stairs to my apartment going through the floors when I was getting near my floor the nasty sensation was setting off.</p></div><p>I think you ought to have your blood pressure checked.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And the most interesting part : while climbing the stairs to my apartment going through the floors when I was getting near my floor the nasty sensation was setting off.I think you ought to have your blood pressure checked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the most interesting part: while climbing the stairs to my apartment going through the floors when I was getting near my floor the nasty sensation was setting off.I think you ought to have your blood pressure checked.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670476</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670608</id>
	<title>Cell phone towers - sigh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269963900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cell phone towers put out more signal than wi-fi antennas and cell phones combined, add in FM/AM and VHF/UHF signals, people are bombarded by radio frequencies day in and day out.</p><p>Getting your neighbor to turn off their wireless might, *might* reduce this by 1 to 2\% at most.</p><p>Agreeing with everyone else here - IDIOT!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cell phone towers put out more signal than wi-fi antennas and cell phones combined , add in FM/AM and VHF/UHF signals , people are bombarded by radio frequencies day in and day out.Getting your neighbor to turn off their wireless might , * might * reduce this by 1 to 2 \ % at most.Agreeing with everyone else here - IDIOT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cell phone towers put out more signal than wi-fi antennas and cell phones combined, add in FM/AM and VHF/UHF signals, people are bombarded by radio frequencies day in and day out.Getting your neighbor to turn off their wireless might, *might* reduce this by 1 to 2\% at most.Agreeing with everyone else here - IDIOT!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670174</id>
	<title>Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>Evardsson</author>
	<datestamp>1269962520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If he is a homeowner, how he protects himself from his surrounding environment is his responsibility. If he really believes he is being made sick by electro-magnetic energies around him maybe he needs to wrap his house in a Faraday cage and shut the hell up.</p><p>You can't sue your neighbor when their cherry tree blooms and sets off your allergies. Same thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If he is a homeowner , how he protects himself from his surrounding environment is his responsibility .
If he really believes he is being made sick by electro-magnetic energies around him maybe he needs to wrap his house in a Faraday cage and shut the hell up.You ca n't sue your neighbor when their cherry tree blooms and sets off your allergies .
Same thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he is a homeowner, how he protects himself from his surrounding environment is his responsibility.
If he really believes he is being made sick by electro-magnetic energies around him maybe he needs to wrap his house in a Faraday cage and shut the hell up.You can't sue your neighbor when their cherry tree blooms and sets off your allergies.
Same thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670528</id>
	<title>Re:Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>wisnoskij</author>
	<datestamp>1269963660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>but a basic human right might be having the freedom to do whatever you want on your own property if it is not hurting anyone else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but a basic human right might be having the freedom to do whatever you want on your own property if it is not hurting anyone else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but a basic human right might be having the freedom to do whatever you want on your own property if it is not hurting anyone else.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670386</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674980</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269977760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You win the internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You win the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You win the internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670974</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31675226</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1269978960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not exactly correct.<br>It is like someone that is allergic to grass and then demanding that you tear out your lawn.<br>Actually it is more like someone saying they are allergic to the color yellow demanding that you paint your living room because some of the yellow leaks out of your windows.<br>Really if his neighbor was legally using WIFI and cell phones then this guy needs to move to the middle of the woods or get real help so he stops imagining that he is sensitive to EM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not exactly correct.It is like someone that is allergic to grass and then demanding that you tear out your lawn.Actually it is more like someone saying they are allergic to the color yellow demanding that you paint your living room because some of the yellow leaks out of your windows.Really if his neighbor was legally using WIFI and cell phones then this guy needs to move to the middle of the woods or get real help so he stops imagining that he is sensitive to EM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not exactly correct.It is like someone that is allergic to grass and then demanding that you tear out your lawn.Actually it is more like someone saying they are allergic to the color yellow demanding that you paint your living room because some of the yellow leaks out of your windows.Really if his neighbor was legally using WIFI and cell phones then this guy needs to move to the middle of the woods or get real help so he stops imagining that he is sensitive to EM.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671838</id>
	<title>Have you considered</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269967320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All these people banging on about science and not a single one willing to even consider the possibility that the poor guy might be sensitive to this stuff and it's making him sick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All these people banging on about science and not a single one willing to even consider the possibility that the poor guy might be sensitive to this stuff and it 's making him sick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All these people banging on about science and not a single one willing to even consider the possibility that the poor guy might be sensitive to this stuff and it's making him sick.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670138</id>
	<title>Sounds like time for a countersuit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269962400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With a major point showing how much EM radiation there is from the sun and then from all the TV and cell phone signals without this person using anything and then what little increase (if noticable) there is when this person's devices are turned on...</htmltext>
<tokenext>With a major point showing how much EM radiation there is from the sun and then from all the TV and cell phone signals without this person using anything and then what little increase ( if noticable ) there is when this person 's devices are turned on.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With a major point showing how much EM radiation there is from the sun and then from all the TV and cell phone signals without this person using anything and then what little increase (if noticable) there is when this person's devices are turned on...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673034</id>
	<title>Get a camera and follow him about.</title>
	<author>TavisJohn</author>
	<datestamp>1269970980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take pictures of him when he is outside the home.  When he is going into any place that has open, or closed WiFi.<br>Take a picture of him using a cordless of cell phone.<br>Take a picture of him with a bluetooth headset.<br>Take a screen cap of all the WiFi networks in the area.<br>Find out where the cell towers are in your area.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take pictures of him when he is outside the home .
When he is going into any place that has open , or closed WiFi.Take a picture of him using a cordless of cell phone.Take a picture of him with a bluetooth headset.Take a screen cap of all the WiFi networks in the area.Find out where the cell towers are in your area .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take pictures of him when he is outside the home.
When he is going into any place that has open, or closed WiFi.Take a picture of him using a cordless of cell phone.Take a picture of him with a bluetooth headset.Take a screen cap of all the WiFi networks in the area.Find out where the cell towers are in your area.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671420</id>
	<title>Re:How to tell if he's a liar</title>
	<author>Locklin</author>
	<datestamp>1269966300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because mental illness can easily be beaten simply be proving to the victim that they are wrong...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because mental illness can easily be beaten simply be proving to the victim that they are wrong.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because mental illness can easily be beaten simply be proving to the victim that they are wrong...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670420</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670906</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>slim</author>
	<datestamp>1269964800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are researchers who would be eager to hear from you, if you can really discern the presence of RF at these frequencies, in double-blind conditions.</p><p>Not that I doubt your experience - psychosomatic effects and placebos are very powerful things.</p><p>I don't know how effective a treatment it is to have your experience's lack of physical cause demonstrated. I imagine in many cases it would merely cause confusion and anger. Plenty of people continue to respond to homeopathy even though their rational mind knows it can only be a placebo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are researchers who would be eager to hear from you , if you can really discern the presence of RF at these frequencies , in double-blind conditions.Not that I doubt your experience - psychosomatic effects and placebos are very powerful things.I do n't know how effective a treatment it is to have your experience 's lack of physical cause demonstrated .
I imagine in many cases it would merely cause confusion and anger .
Plenty of people continue to respond to homeopathy even though their rational mind knows it can only be a placebo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are researchers who would be eager to hear from you, if you can really discern the presence of RF at these frequencies, in double-blind conditions.Not that I doubt your experience - psychosomatic effects and placebos are very powerful things.I don't know how effective a treatment it is to have your experience's lack of physical cause demonstrated.
I imagine in many cases it would merely cause confusion and anger.
Plenty of people continue to respond to homeopathy even though their rational mind knows it can only be a placebo.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670476</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31687686</id>
	<title>Re:How to tell if he's a liar</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1270050420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>your unplugged dish was absorbing the radio waves that keep me from getting headaches!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>your unplugged dish was absorbing the radio waves that keep me from getting headaches !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>your unplugged dish was absorbing the radio waves that keep me from getting headaches!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670420</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672134</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>amplt1337</author>
	<datestamp>1269968160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If these sensitivities were real (though I very much doubt that they are), he would have a point. Just because something has become socially common doesn't mean it's ok to do if it later turns out that it harms others in their own home.</p></div><p>Er, no offense, but no he wouldn't.  He'd have a sensitivity that it would be incumbent upon him to solve.  Otherwise what's to stop him from moving into an apartment in the center of a city and demanding that everyone in the building stop using electronics?  He's welcome to retrofit his home to make it a Faraday cage if he wishes, but he has no right to restrict the law-abiding behavior of his neighbor in *her* home just because he's (supposedly) a genetic freak who can sense EMF radiation.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If these sensitivities were real ( though I very much doubt that they are ) , he would have a point .
Just because something has become socially common does n't mean it 's ok to do if it later turns out that it harms others in their own home.Er , no offense , but no he would n't .
He 'd have a sensitivity that it would be incumbent upon him to solve .
Otherwise what 's to stop him from moving into an apartment in the center of a city and demanding that everyone in the building stop using electronics ?
He 's welcome to retrofit his home to make it a Faraday cage if he wishes , but he has no right to restrict the law-abiding behavior of his neighbor in * her * home just because he 's ( supposedly ) a genetic freak who can sense EMF radiation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If these sensitivities were real (though I very much doubt that they are), he would have a point.
Just because something has become socially common doesn't mean it's ok to do if it later turns out that it harms others in their own home.Er, no offense, but no he wouldn't.
He'd have a sensitivity that it would be incumbent upon him to solve.
Otherwise what's to stop him from moving into an apartment in the center of a city and demanding that everyone in the building stop using electronics?
He's welcome to retrofit his home to make it a Faraday cage if he wishes, but he has no right to restrict the law-abiding behavior of his neighbor in *her* home just because he's (supposedly) a genetic freak who can sense EMF radiation.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670536</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674330</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>jeff4747</author>
	<datestamp>1269975180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>(IANAL)<blockquote><div><p>but my point here is this: should I have to pay yearly to keep her tree from poking my house again? Its her tree, why should I have the expense of making sure it doesn't cross onto my property?</p></div></blockquote><p>You can ask your neighbor to deal with it, and if they don't you should be able to successfully sue them.  In fact, you can demand that none of the plants on your neighbor's property cross onto your property.</p><p>Essentially, the tree is "trespassing" (a crude analogy, but it mostly works).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( IANAL ) but my point here is this : should I have to pay yearly to keep her tree from poking my house again ?
Its her tree , why should I have the expense of making sure it does n't cross onto my property ? You can ask your neighbor to deal with it , and if they do n't you should be able to successfully sue them .
In fact , you can demand that none of the plants on your neighbor 's property cross onto your property.Essentially , the tree is " trespassing " ( a crude analogy , but it mostly works ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(IANAL)but my point here is this: should I have to pay yearly to keep her tree from poking my house again?
Its her tree, why should I have the expense of making sure it doesn't cross onto my property?You can ask your neighbor to deal with it, and if they don't you should be able to successfully sue them.
In fact, you can demand that none of the plants on your neighbor's property cross onto your property.Essentially, the tree is "trespassing" (a crude analogy, but it mostly works).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671248</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31678822</id>
	<title>Re:Against something that's government sanctioned?</title>
	<author>Xorlev</author>
	<datestamp>1269948960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But what about the low-grade em put off by rocks? Surely that's enough to set off his affliction. The poor man.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But what about the low-grade em put off by rocks ?
Surely that 's enough to set off his affliction .
The poor man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what about the low-grade em put off by rocks?
Surely that's enough to set off his affliction.
The poor man.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671020</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670736</id>
	<title>courthouse</title>
	<author>confused one</author>
	<datestamp>1269964260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The fun part will be determining if he reacts to the wifi network that will most likely be present in some part of the courthouse.  The wireless keyboards and mice on the computers.  The sheriff's / bailiff's radio gear...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The fun part will be determining if he reacts to the wifi network that will most likely be present in some part of the courthouse .
The wireless keyboards and mice on the computers .
The sheriff 's / bailiff 's radio gear.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fun part will be determining if he reacts to the wifi network that will most likely be present in some part of the courthouse.
The wireless keyboards and mice on the computers.
The sheriff's / bailiff's radio gear...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670828</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>Game\_Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1269964500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How did you learn of the device?  Do you know its power output?  Radio drops off really fast, so it's completely possible that its signal strength is less in your apartment then all of your neighbors WiFi.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How did you learn of the device ?
Do you know its power output ?
Radio drops off really fast , so it 's completely possible that its signal strength is less in your apartment then all of your neighbors WiFi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did you learn of the device?
Do you know its power output?
Radio drops off really fast, so it's completely possible that its signal strength is less in your apartment then all of your neighbors WiFi.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671534</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>hypergreatthing</author>
	<datestamp>1269966600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so... you assumed it was a wireless cell tower which caused the problems, not something a bit closer to home like fumes or mold or bad air circulation? Hell, you could have bad electrical which produces a lot more local EM fields than a cell tower 70 meters away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so... you assumed it was a wireless cell tower which caused the problems , not something a bit closer to home like fumes or mold or bad air circulation ?
Hell , you could have bad electrical which produces a lot more local EM fields than a cell tower 70 meters away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so... you assumed it was a wireless cell tower which caused the problems, not something a bit closer to home like fumes or mold or bad air circulation?
Hell, you could have bad electrical which produces a lot more local EM fields than a cell tower 70 meters away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672808</id>
	<title>Re:Samer Theory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269970260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>I was 'hearing' the TV's high frequencies (That damn whine from CRTS). Now with LCDs I don't hear that at all.</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>
No need to put hearing in quotes, you actually were hearing that. CRTs make noise because the flyback transformer energizes and de-energizes with every sweep of the electron gun across the screen. For a US TV that frequency was 15.75kHz (Other video systems like PAL or SECAM - same principle different frequency.) 15.75kHz is a high enough frequency sound that many people either can't hear it or lose the abilty to hear it as they get older - or, can sense it only as a pressure in the ear and not a sound as such.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>We know that various forms of EM can affect behaviors (migration, grazing patterns, maze memory in rats, etc.) Perhaps his claim is legitimate. If so the implications warrant more then a passing "Meh" in regards to the case.</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>
[Citation Needed]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was 'hearing ' the TV 's high frequencies ( That damn whine from CRTS ) .
Now with LCDs I do n't hear that at all .
No need to put hearing in quotes , you actually were hearing that .
CRTs make noise because the flyback transformer energizes and de-energizes with every sweep of the electron gun across the screen .
For a US TV that frequency was 15.75kHz ( Other video systems like PAL or SECAM - same principle different frequency .
) 15.75kHz is a high enough frequency sound that many people either ca n't hear it or lose the abilty to hear it as they get older - or , can sense it only as a pressure in the ear and not a sound as such .
We know that various forms of EM can affect behaviors ( migration , grazing patterns , maze memory in rats , etc .
) Perhaps his claim is legitimate .
If so the implications warrant more then a passing " Meh " in regards to the case .
[ Citation Needed ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I was 'hearing' the TV's high frequencies (That damn whine from CRTS).
Now with LCDs I don't hear that at all.
No need to put hearing in quotes, you actually were hearing that.
CRTs make noise because the flyback transformer energizes and de-energizes with every sweep of the electron gun across the screen.
For a US TV that frequency was 15.75kHz (Other video systems like PAL or SECAM - same principle different frequency.
) 15.75kHz is a high enough frequency sound that many people either can't hear it or lose the abilty to hear it as they get older - or, can sense it only as a pressure in the ear and not a sound as such.
We know that various forms of EM can affect behaviors (migration, grazing patterns, maze memory in rats, etc.
) Perhaps his claim is legitimate.
If so the implications warrant more then a passing "Meh" in regards to the case.
[Citation Needed]
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672888</id>
	<title>Re:I think I have a solution</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1269970560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>And a little bit left over for hookers and blow.</i></p><p>It's well documented* that both of these things help mitigate the effects of EM sensitivity.  It's all for his medical needs!</p><p>* citation needed?  The MAN won't let me post a citation!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And a little bit left over for hookers and blow.It 's well documented * that both of these things help mitigate the effects of EM sensitivity .
It 's all for his medical needs !
* citation needed ?
The MAN wo n't let me post a citation !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And a little bit left over for hookers and blow.It's well documented* that both of these things help mitigate the effects of EM sensitivity.
It's all for his medical needs!
* citation needed?
The MAN won't let me post a citation!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673130</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>juhaz</author>
	<datestamp>1269971220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But I'm allergic to neutrinos, you insensitive clod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But I 'm allergic to neutrinos , you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I'm allergic to neutrinos, you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31675266</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269979140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>She needs to give her electronic devices to a reporter for a couple of days without telling the psycho about it, then let said reporter ask him about his symptoms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>She needs to give her electronic devices to a reporter for a couple of days without telling the psycho about it , then let said reporter ask him about his symptoms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>She needs to give her electronic devices to a reporter for a couple of days without telling the psycho about it, then let said reporter ask him about his symptoms.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670870</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269964680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>because there's towers and such that are putting out a lot more power than a WiFi router in another house after it has passed over the distance between the houses plus two exterior walls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>because there 's towers and such that are putting out a lot more power than a WiFi router in another house after it has passed over the distance between the houses plus two exterior walls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>because there's towers and such that are putting out a lot more power than a WiFi router in another house after it has passed over the distance between the houses plus two exterior walls.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670168</id>
	<title>The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269962520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok people,  do you have any CLUE how many radio waves are going through your body at any given time?  I mean seriously do people think that GPS's, Cell Phones, Watches, all have some kind of invisible tether?  Your best hope is to find a cave in the mountains.  Not a home in suburbia...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok people , do you have any CLUE how many radio waves are going through your body at any given time ?
I mean seriously do people think that GPS 's , Cell Phones , Watches , all have some kind of invisible tether ?
Your best hope is to find a cave in the mountains .
Not a home in suburbia.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok people,  do you have any CLUE how many radio waves are going through your body at any given time?
I mean seriously do people think that GPS's, Cell Phones, Watches, all have some kind of invisible tether?
Your best hope is to find a cave in the mountains.
Not a home in suburbia...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673904</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1269973800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Assuming you mean a wireless base station? I'm curious as to how you determined this was the cause, as opposed to something like mold in the apartment?  For that matter, why would it not happen 10 meters further away from the base station, or 10 meters closer?  In the case of mold, its adverse effects are documented; whereas to the best of my knowledge, adverse reactions to EM remain unproven.
<p><div class="quote"><p>All he did was to buy a house and then waited till somebody started making him sick.</p> </div><p>Let's look a little closer at TFA...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>She keeps in touch, she said, with relatives in the U.S., Asia, Europe and the Middle East. "Because my family members live in different time zones, I have always made myself available to them at all hours," she said. "We communicate often through Skype, Gmail chat, video and audio sessions."

Firstenberg knew this when he mentioned to her that the Casados Street house was for rent, but after Monribot moved in, he and a friend insisted that she turn off her Wi-Fi router and other equipment. She tried to comply, but felt harassed.</p></div><p>So your innocent victim knew that she used wireless devices before she moved in, but conveniently waited until after she moved in to mention the issues he had with them?
</p><p>
"Ah," you say, "Clearly he did not know of them before hand."

</p><p>
But then we see this:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Nearly 400 people signed an online petition that Firstenberg helped organize against plans to add Wi-Fi antennas around town. The City Council postponed the project last month.</p></div><p>..
Hmm.  Well, maybe this was after the fact too?

Here, wait, let's look a little deeper - Mr Fristenberg has a wikipedia page (The sources of the page do check out)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>s an American activist on the subject of electromagnetic hypersensitivity.[1]  He is the founder of the independent campaign group the Cellular Phone Task Force.[2]  His 1997 book Microwaving Our Planet: The Environmental Impact of the Wireless Revolution was published by the group.[3]</p></div><p>

Ah, now things become even more clear.  This known activist who went so far as authoring a book about the evils of EM years before he met his new neighbor... just *happened* to not mention his concerns when they spoke up front? (Here's an article he wrote two or three years before the incident... even before his neighbor moved in: <a href="http://www.mindfully.org/Technology/2006/Firstenberg-EMF-Experiment1jan06.htm" title="mindfully.org">http://www.mindfully.org/Technology/2006/Firstenberg-EMF-Experiment1jan06.htm</a> [mindfully.org]. I'll let you discover the misrepresentations in there for yourself, if you're of a mind to.)
</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Why don't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless?</p></div><p>Mr Firstenberg is bathed in EM spectrum every day, as he is well aware.   Given that he has had issues with this dating back to at least 1997 or so, and given that he knows he can't control the actions of everyone walking by his house every day, I think that enclosing his house in a Faraday cage is quite a reasonable request.    Kind of like closing your windows and running the AC when humidity gives you a headache.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Assuming you mean a wireless base station ?
I 'm curious as to how you determined this was the cause , as opposed to something like mold in the apartment ?
For that matter , why would it not happen 10 meters further away from the base station , or 10 meters closer ?
In the case of mold , its adverse effects are documented ; whereas to the best of my knowledge , adverse reactions to EM remain unproven .
All he did was to buy a house and then waited till somebody started making him sick .
Let 's look a little closer at TFA...She keeps in touch , she said , with relatives in the U.S. , Asia , Europe and the Middle East .
" Because my family members live in different time zones , I have always made myself available to them at all hours , " she said .
" We communicate often through Skype , Gmail chat , video and audio sessions .
" Firstenberg knew this when he mentioned to her that the Casados Street house was for rent , but after Monribot moved in , he and a friend insisted that she turn off her Wi-Fi router and other equipment .
She tried to comply , but felt harassed.So your innocent victim knew that she used wireless devices before she moved in , but conveniently waited until after she moved in to mention the issues he had with them ?
" Ah , " you say , " Clearly he did not know of them before hand .
" But then we see this : Nearly 400 people signed an online petition that Firstenberg helped organize against plans to add Wi-Fi antennas around town .
The City Council postponed the project last month.. . Hmm. Well , maybe this was after the fact too ?
Here , wait , let 's look a little deeper - Mr Fristenberg has a wikipedia page ( The sources of the page do check out ) s an American activist on the subject of electromagnetic hypersensitivity .
[ 1 ] He is the founder of the independent campaign group the Cellular Phone Task Force .
[ 2 ] His 1997 book Microwaving Our Planet : The Environmental Impact of the Wireless Revolution was published by the group .
[ 3 ] Ah , now things become even more clear .
This known activist who went so far as authoring a book about the evils of EM years before he met his new neighbor... just * happened * to not mention his concerns when they spoke up front ?
( Here 's an article he wrote two or three years before the incident... even before his neighbor moved in : http : //www.mindfully.org/Technology/2006/Firstenberg-EMF-Experiment1jan06.htm [ mindfully.org ] .
I 'll let you discover the misrepresentations in there for yourself , if you 're of a mind to .
) Why do n't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless ? Mr Firstenberg is bathed in EM spectrum every day , as he is well aware .
Given that he has had issues with this dating back to at least 1997 or so , and given that he knows he ca n't control the actions of everyone walking by his house every day , I think that enclosing his house in a Faraday cage is quite a reasonable request .
Kind of like closing your windows and running the AC when humidity gives you a headache .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assuming you mean a wireless base station?
I'm curious as to how you determined this was the cause, as opposed to something like mold in the apartment?
For that matter, why would it not happen 10 meters further away from the base station, or 10 meters closer?
In the case of mold, its adverse effects are documented; whereas to the best of my knowledge, adverse reactions to EM remain unproven.
All he did was to buy a house and then waited till somebody started making him sick.
Let's look a little closer at TFA...She keeps in touch, she said, with relatives in the U.S., Asia, Europe and the Middle East.
"Because my family members live in different time zones, I have always made myself available to them at all hours," she said.
"We communicate often through Skype, Gmail chat, video and audio sessions.
"

Firstenberg knew this when he mentioned to her that the Casados Street house was for rent, but after Monribot moved in, he and a friend insisted that she turn off her Wi-Fi router and other equipment.
She tried to comply, but felt harassed.So your innocent victim knew that she used wireless devices before she moved in, but conveniently waited until after she moved in to mention the issues he had with them?
"Ah," you say, "Clearly he did not know of them before hand.
"


But then we see this:Nearly 400 people signed an online petition that Firstenberg helped organize against plans to add Wi-Fi antennas around town.
The City Council postponed the project last month...
Hmm.  Well, maybe this was after the fact too?
Here, wait, let's look a little deeper - Mr Fristenberg has a wikipedia page (The sources of the page do check out)s an American activist on the subject of electromagnetic hypersensitivity.
[1]  He is the founder of the independent campaign group the Cellular Phone Task Force.
[2]  His 1997 book Microwaving Our Planet: The Environmental Impact of the Wireless Revolution was published by the group.
[3]

Ah, now things become even more clear.
This known activist who went so far as authoring a book about the evils of EM years before he met his new neighbor... just *happened* to not mention his concerns when they spoke up front?
(Here's an article he wrote two or three years before the incident... even before his neighbor moved in: http://www.mindfully.org/Technology/2006/Firstenberg-EMF-Experiment1jan06.htm [mindfully.org].
I'll let you discover the misrepresentations in there for yourself, if you're of a mind to.
)
Why don't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless?Mr Firstenberg is bathed in EM spectrum every day, as he is well aware.
Given that he has had issues with this dating back to at least 1997 or so, and given that he knows he can't control the actions of everyone walking by his house every day, I think that enclosing his house in a Faraday cage is quite a reasonable request.
Kind of like closing your windows and running the AC when humidity gives you a headache.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674204</id>
	<title>There's paint for this</title>
	<author>George\_Ou</author>
	<datestamp>1269974760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can actually by Wi-Fi blocking paint and window film.  <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=45" title="zdnet.com">http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=45</a> [zdnet.com].  It's not cheap for a whole house, but that's his problem due to an imaginary ailment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can actually by Wi-Fi blocking paint and window film .
http : //blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/ ? p = 45 [ zdnet.com ] .
It 's not cheap for a whole house , but that 's his problem due to an imaginary ailment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can actually by Wi-Fi blocking paint and window film.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=45 [zdnet.com].
It's not cheap for a whole house, but that's his problem due to an imaginary ailment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671002</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>HungryHobo</author>
	<datestamp>1269965100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if you really can detect EM radiation from the phone base stations then I'd be interested to see you in a controlled trial-</p><p>you spend an evening in a room, whenever you feel bad/get a nasty sensation press a button.</p><p>At the end of the evening the times when you indicated you felt something and the times when they turned on the EM transmitter can be compared.</p><p>very easy to double blind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if you really can detect EM radiation from the phone base stations then I 'd be interested to see you in a controlled trial-you spend an evening in a room , whenever you feel bad/get a nasty sensation press a button.At the end of the evening the times when you indicated you felt something and the times when they turned on the EM transmitter can be compared.very easy to double blind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if you really can detect EM radiation from the phone base stations then I'd be interested to see you in a controlled trial-you spend an evening in a room, whenever you feel bad/get a nasty sensation press a button.At the end of the evening the times when you indicated you felt something and the times when they turned on the EM transmitter can be compared.very easy to double blind.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670666</id>
	<title>Re:Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269964020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>She might have exaggerated a little, but no more then idiot next door has exaggerated about his "sickness".</htmltext>
<tokenext>She might have exaggerated a little , but no more then idiot next door has exaggerated about his " sickness " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>She might have exaggerated a little, but no more then idiot next door has exaggerated about his "sickness".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31681292</id>
	<title>You forgot the evil neutrinos....</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1269960360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.. where is my cat? Mini Me? have you seen my cat?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.. where is my cat ?
Mini Me ?
have you seen my cat ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. where is my cat?
Mini Me?
have you seen my cat?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671794</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>MikeBabcock</author>
	<datestamp>1269967260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, specific frequencies at specific energies do have differing effects.</p><p>There's a reason you don't put your head in the microwave oven.</p><p>Notably, we've never ruled out the possibility of sensitivity to specific frequencies scientifically.</p><p>Sure, the general population seems unaware of them, but that doesn't really preclude that some people could in fact be sensitive to some, and the easy option would be to actually test it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , specific frequencies at specific energies do have differing effects.There 's a reason you do n't put your head in the microwave oven.Notably , we 've never ruled out the possibility of sensitivity to specific frequencies scientifically.Sure , the general population seems unaware of them , but that does n't really preclude that some people could in fact be sensitive to some , and the easy option would be to actually test it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, specific frequencies at specific energies do have differing effects.There's a reason you don't put your head in the microwave oven.Notably, we've never ruled out the possibility of sensitivity to specific frequencies scientifically.Sure, the general population seems unaware of them, but that doesn't really preclude that some people could in fact be sensitive to some, and the easy option would be to actually test it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670994</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>dancingmilk</author>
	<datestamp>1269965100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its her right to use Wifi. If he becomes sick from it, thats his problem, not hers. He needs to wrap his house in a Faraday cage and then he needs to shut the fuck up.</p><p>I can't really see this situation from his point of view all that well since he's a <b>crazy fucking moron</b>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its her right to use Wifi .
If he becomes sick from it , thats his problem , not hers .
He needs to wrap his house in a Faraday cage and then he needs to shut the fuck up.I ca n't really see this situation from his point of view all that well since he 's a crazy fucking moron .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its her right to use Wifi.
If he becomes sick from it, thats his problem, not hers.
He needs to wrap his house in a Faraday cage and then he needs to shut the fuck up.I can't really see this situation from his point of view all that well since he's a crazy fucking moron.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670980</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Bakkster</author>
	<datestamp>1269965040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't categorically say all of them are morons.  Assuming they aren't intentionally claiming to be sick to get their way, they might actually be sick.  Sure, it might be a psychosomatic illness rather than physiological one, but either way the person is ill and needs treatment.
</p><p>Also, by better separating the morons from the real cases, we can hopefully eventually perform actual research to separate any physiological cases from psychosomatic ones.  Then we can hopefully cure both and put an end to cases like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't categorically say all of them are morons .
Assuming they are n't intentionally claiming to be sick to get their way , they might actually be sick .
Sure , it might be a psychosomatic illness rather than physiological one , but either way the person is ill and needs treatment .
Also , by better separating the morons from the real cases , we can hopefully eventually perform actual research to separate any physiological cases from psychosomatic ones .
Then we can hopefully cure both and put an end to cases like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't categorically say all of them are morons.
Assuming they aren't intentionally claiming to be sick to get their way, they might actually be sick.
Sure, it might be a psychosomatic illness rather than physiological one, but either way the person is ill and needs treatment.
Also, by better separating the morons from the real cases, we can hopefully eventually perform actual research to separate any physiological cases from psychosomatic ones.
Then we can hopefully cure both and put an end to cases like this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671026</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>Mouldy</author>
	<datestamp>1269965160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...Your best hope is to find a cave in the mountains.  Not a home in suburbia...</p></div><p>Actually, even a cave in the mountains probably wouldn't be as radio-free as you might hope. Many rocks are naturally radio-active.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...Your best hope is to find a cave in the mountains .
Not a home in suburbia...Actually , even a cave in the mountains probably would n't be as radio-free as you might hope .
Many rocks are naturally radio-active .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...Your best hope is to find a cave in the mountains.
Not a home in suburbia...Actually, even a cave in the mountains probably wouldn't be as radio-free as you might hope.
Many rocks are naturally radio-active.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673836</id>
	<title>Re:Against something that's government sanctioned?</title>
	<author>Reziac</author>
	<datestamp>1269973560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about an old uranium mine?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about an old uranium mine ?
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about an old uranium mine?
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671102</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1269965340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How did you figure out you got headaches from a telco base station?</p><p>I mean, sure, you get headaches in a certain location.  And there happens to be a base station a considerable distance away.</p><p>But, how could you possibly "know" those are connected?  Almost infinitely more likely:</p><p>1) someones furnace/stove/rooftop pool heater is pumping out carbon monoxide.<br>2) the carpets were cleaned with raw benzene, and/or the gasoline powered scooter is fuming away inside someones apartment.<br>3) mold sensitivity from the leaky roof.<br>4) a neighbor is doing god knows what in his meth lab<br>5) Perfume or other stink sensitivity, especially if the applier is a smoker (those folks tend to apply literally choking quantities)<br>6) Insecticide not rated for human occupation or improperly applied basically nerve gassing you.<br>7) The "funniest" part was describing how the headache began as the stairs were being climbed.  Probably just a brain aneurysm throbbing away.<br>8) Drinking too much makes you hung over, not RF transmitters.  Exercise, like climbing stairs, doesn't necessarily always help.<br>9) Neighbor is having a "fun" time getting high huffing paint solvents, you're just getting the contact-headache.<br>10) The hardwood floor down the hallway is getting refinished with no ventilation at all.  Sorry if it makes you hurl.</p><p>I've either experienced, or am familiar with others experiencing, all 10.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How did you figure out you got headaches from a telco base station ? I mean , sure , you get headaches in a certain location .
And there happens to be a base station a considerable distance away.But , how could you possibly " know " those are connected ?
Almost infinitely more likely : 1 ) someones furnace/stove/rooftop pool heater is pumping out carbon monoxide.2 ) the carpets were cleaned with raw benzene , and/or the gasoline powered scooter is fuming away inside someones apartment.3 ) mold sensitivity from the leaky roof.4 ) a neighbor is doing god knows what in his meth lab5 ) Perfume or other stink sensitivity , especially if the applier is a smoker ( those folks tend to apply literally choking quantities ) 6 ) Insecticide not rated for human occupation or improperly applied basically nerve gassing you.7 ) The " funniest " part was describing how the headache began as the stairs were being climbed .
Probably just a brain aneurysm throbbing away.8 ) Drinking too much makes you hung over , not RF transmitters .
Exercise , like climbing stairs , does n't necessarily always help.9 ) Neighbor is having a " fun " time getting high huffing paint solvents , you 're just getting the contact-headache.10 ) The hardwood floor down the hallway is getting refinished with no ventilation at all .
Sorry if it makes you hurl.I 've either experienced , or am familiar with others experiencing , all 10 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did you figure out you got headaches from a telco base station?I mean, sure, you get headaches in a certain location.
And there happens to be a base station a considerable distance away.But, how could you possibly "know" those are connected?
Almost infinitely more likely:1) someones furnace/stove/rooftop pool heater is pumping out carbon monoxide.2) the carpets were cleaned with raw benzene, and/or the gasoline powered scooter is fuming away inside someones apartment.3) mold sensitivity from the leaky roof.4) a neighbor is doing god knows what in his meth lab5) Perfume or other stink sensitivity, especially if the applier is a smoker (those folks tend to apply literally choking quantities)6) Insecticide not rated for human occupation or improperly applied basically nerve gassing you.7) The "funniest" part was describing how the headache began as the stairs were being climbed.
Probably just a brain aneurysm throbbing away.8) Drinking too much makes you hung over, not RF transmitters.
Exercise, like climbing stairs, doesn't necessarily always help.9) Neighbor is having a "fun" time getting high huffing paint solvents, you're just getting the contact-headache.10) The hardwood floor down the hallway is getting refinished with no ventilation at all.
Sorry if it makes you hurl.I've either experienced, or am familiar with others experiencing, all 10.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673252</id>
	<title>Re:I think I have a solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269971580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And who says math is useless? Numbers must be onto something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And who says math is useless ?
Numbers must be onto something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And who says math is useless?
Numbers must be onto something.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672734</id>
	<title>Stories about EMR</title>
	<author>the eric conspiracy</author>
	<datestamp>1269970020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stories about EMR like this make me sick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stories about EMR like this make me sick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stories about EMR like this make me sick.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671370</id>
	<title>Re:Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>Locklin</author>
	<datestamp>1269966180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not allowed to blast my Stereo loud enough to bother my neighbors all night. Then again, humans *can actually* perceive sound.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not allowed to blast my Stereo loud enough to bother my neighbors all night .
Then again , humans * can actually * perceive sound .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not allowed to blast my Stereo loud enough to bother my neighbors all night.
Then again, humans *can actually* perceive sound.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31679154</id>
	<title>set him the test of what he can notice</title>
	<author>daithesong</author>
	<datestamp>1269950520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>She should state that she will turn off transmitters on random half-days, and ask him to identify those half-days.  I bet he can't.</htmltext>
<tokenext>She should state that she will turn off transmitters on random half-days , and ask him to identify those half-days .
I bet he ca n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>She should state that she will turn off transmitters on random half-days, and ask him to identify those half-days.
I bet he can't.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671324</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>canajin56</author>
	<datestamp>1269966060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Or, look at it from the first side again, and allow for the fact that you are also crazy.  There's a famous story about psychosomatic EM sensitivity.  They built a large microwave relay station for cable television.  Big huge microwave dishes and nasty pointy antennae.  Nearby, a huge uproar, it was causing crippling migraines and vertigo and nose bleeds and nausea and blurred vision.   They sign petitions and form a mob to go complain to the guys and tell them to shut it off.  Well, the engineers at this station just laugh at them.  "It's not funny!" they scream, just as you do, "Our pain is real!  It's agony just being this close to your building, turn it off!"  It turns out the engineers can't turn it off because they still haven't turned it on yet.
</p><p>
All of the mentally afflicted who claim this impossible allergy to an infinitesimally narrow band of radiation (with complete immunity to all other bands of EM radiation) who have actually been tested, have been shown to be making it up.  The test is easy:  Put them in a sterile room with nothing but lights in the way of electronic devices, and assure them its shielded from signals.  See how calm they are, despite the powerful WiFi routers in the false ceiling?  Now wheel in a big scary machine covered in antennae.  Still fine, see, it's off!  Now flick that big "ON" switch for them, see how that green light comes on?  Instant agony!  They grab at their heads and they scream, make it stop, you are raping our minds!  OK, switch it off, they have proven their point, radio waves cause them pain.  Except there is no transmitter, there are just pieces of metals attached to an empty box.  The "ON" switch turns on the light, and only the light.
</p><p>
Afterwards, the quacks who make big bucks selling these folks expensive electricity cleaning devices and crystalline rods to protect them, say that of course the test failed, when you are allergic to pollen you don't sneeze as soon as you are near the plant, it can take hours.  Or, they say the scientists negative thoughts, because they aren't true believers in chi points and auras, have corrupted the results.  In any event, you are making the utterly absurd claim that you can feel the effects instantly as you climb higher towards the towers.  So you have no excuse now.  Go get tested.  You can win $1,000,000 if you prove that your "disability" is real, and you have no room to complain since you've already asserted that there is no delayed reaction, you feel physical pain instantly.  We'll be waiting.
</p><p>
Further, this guy didn't just sit there, minding his own business.  He knew her before she moved in.  He knew she had a cellphone, knew she used WiFi on her laptop so she could chat with family using Skype.  And knowing this, he told her that the house next to his was for rent.  Then, as soon as she moved in, him and a big friend of his knock on her door and tell her she has to shut off all of her wifi stuff or she'll be sorry.  She did, she turned off her router and used a wired connection.  That wasn't enough, no cellphone.  So she stopped using her cellphone while home.  Not enough, now she has to replace her dimmer switches with regular switches.  So she said no, I've made too many comprises, no more, I'm keeping my dimmer switches.  So he sued for half a million dollars and a permanent injunction barring her from using any and all electronic devices.  He told her about the place because he KNEW she used a cellphone, and wanted an easy target to sue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , look at it from the first side again , and allow for the fact that you are also crazy .
There 's a famous story about psychosomatic EM sensitivity .
They built a large microwave relay station for cable television .
Big huge microwave dishes and nasty pointy antennae .
Nearby , a huge uproar , it was causing crippling migraines and vertigo and nose bleeds and nausea and blurred vision .
They sign petitions and form a mob to go complain to the guys and tell them to shut it off .
Well , the engineers at this station just laugh at them .
" It 's not funny !
" they scream , just as you do , " Our pain is real !
It 's agony just being this close to your building , turn it off !
" It turns out the engineers ca n't turn it off because they still have n't turned it on yet .
All of the mentally afflicted who claim this impossible allergy to an infinitesimally narrow band of radiation ( with complete immunity to all other bands of EM radiation ) who have actually been tested , have been shown to be making it up .
The test is easy : Put them in a sterile room with nothing but lights in the way of electronic devices , and assure them its shielded from signals .
See how calm they are , despite the powerful WiFi routers in the false ceiling ?
Now wheel in a big scary machine covered in antennae .
Still fine , see , it 's off !
Now flick that big " ON " switch for them , see how that green light comes on ?
Instant agony !
They grab at their heads and they scream , make it stop , you are raping our minds !
OK , switch it off , they have proven their point , radio waves cause them pain .
Except there is no transmitter , there are just pieces of metals attached to an empty box .
The " ON " switch turns on the light , and only the light .
Afterwards , the quacks who make big bucks selling these folks expensive electricity cleaning devices and crystalline rods to protect them , say that of course the test failed , when you are allergic to pollen you do n't sneeze as soon as you are near the plant , it can take hours .
Or , they say the scientists negative thoughts , because they are n't true believers in chi points and auras , have corrupted the results .
In any event , you are making the utterly absurd claim that you can feel the effects instantly as you climb higher towards the towers .
So you have no excuse now .
Go get tested .
You can win $ 1,000,000 if you prove that your " disability " is real , and you have no room to complain since you 've already asserted that there is no delayed reaction , you feel physical pain instantly .
We 'll be waiting .
Further , this guy did n't just sit there , minding his own business .
He knew her before she moved in .
He knew she had a cellphone , knew she used WiFi on her laptop so she could chat with family using Skype .
And knowing this , he told her that the house next to his was for rent .
Then , as soon as she moved in , him and a big friend of his knock on her door and tell her she has to shut off all of her wifi stuff or she 'll be sorry .
She did , she turned off her router and used a wired connection .
That was n't enough , no cellphone .
So she stopped using her cellphone while home .
Not enough , now she has to replace her dimmer switches with regular switches .
So she said no , I 've made too many comprises , no more , I 'm keeping my dimmer switches .
So he sued for half a million dollars and a permanent injunction barring her from using any and all electronic devices .
He told her about the place because he KNEW she used a cellphone , and wanted an easy target to sue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Or, look at it from the first side again, and allow for the fact that you are also crazy.
There's a famous story about psychosomatic EM sensitivity.
They built a large microwave relay station for cable television.
Big huge microwave dishes and nasty pointy antennae.
Nearby, a huge uproar, it was causing crippling migraines and vertigo and nose bleeds and nausea and blurred vision.
They sign petitions and form a mob to go complain to the guys and tell them to shut it off.
Well, the engineers at this station just laugh at them.
"It's not funny!
" they scream, just as you do, "Our pain is real!
It's agony just being this close to your building, turn it off!
"  It turns out the engineers can't turn it off because they still haven't turned it on yet.
All of the mentally afflicted who claim this impossible allergy to an infinitesimally narrow band of radiation (with complete immunity to all other bands of EM radiation) who have actually been tested, have been shown to be making it up.
The test is easy:  Put them in a sterile room with nothing but lights in the way of electronic devices, and assure them its shielded from signals.
See how calm they are, despite the powerful WiFi routers in the false ceiling?
Now wheel in a big scary machine covered in antennae.
Still fine, see, it's off!
Now flick that big "ON" switch for them, see how that green light comes on?
Instant agony!
They grab at their heads and they scream, make it stop, you are raping our minds!
OK, switch it off, they have proven their point, radio waves cause them pain.
Except there is no transmitter, there are just pieces of metals attached to an empty box.
The "ON" switch turns on the light, and only the light.
Afterwards, the quacks who make big bucks selling these folks expensive electricity cleaning devices and crystalline rods to protect them, say that of course the test failed, when you are allergic to pollen you don't sneeze as soon as you are near the plant, it can take hours.
Or, they say the scientists negative thoughts, because they aren't true believers in chi points and auras, have corrupted the results.
In any event, you are making the utterly absurd claim that you can feel the effects instantly as you climb higher towards the towers.
So you have no excuse now.
Go get tested.
You can win $1,000,000 if you prove that your "disability" is real, and you have no room to complain since you've already asserted that there is no delayed reaction, you feel physical pain instantly.
We'll be waiting.
Further, this guy didn't just sit there, minding his own business.
He knew her before she moved in.
He knew she had a cellphone, knew she used WiFi on her laptop so she could chat with family using Skype.
And knowing this, he told her that the house next to his was for rent.
Then, as soon as she moved in, him and a big friend of his knock on her door and tell her she has to shut off all of her wifi stuff or she'll be sorry.
She did, she turned off her router and used a wired connection.
That wasn't enough, no cellphone.
So she stopped using her cellphone while home.
Not enough, now she has to replace her dimmer switches with regular switches.
So she said no, I've made too many comprises, no more, I'm keeping my dimmer switches.
So he sued for half a million dollars and a permanent injunction barring her from using any and all electronic devices.
He told her about the place because he KNEW she used a cellphone, and wanted an easy target to sue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673434</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Myopic</author>
	<datestamp>1269972240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This question has been settled law for a long, long time. I am not a lawyer, so I forget the court case, but I'm aware of a case where a landlord rented an upper room to a tenant, with permission for the tenant to practice his occupation, which was making specialty paper. Meanwhile, downstairs, the landlord was doing something that generated enough heat to negatively affect the tenant's paper.</p><p>The tenant sued the landlord for, uh, for whatever. The judge decided for the landlord, saying that the heat-generating activity was "reasonable", and that if the tenant wanted protection from something reasonable, he would have to negotiate it in the rental agreement.</p><p>So, I figure that using WiFi is "reasonable", so the neighbor has no case.</p><p>Oh, also, the guy is nucking futs, so that will probably work against him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This question has been settled law for a long , long time .
I am not a lawyer , so I forget the court case , but I 'm aware of a case where a landlord rented an upper room to a tenant , with permission for the tenant to practice his occupation , which was making specialty paper .
Meanwhile , downstairs , the landlord was doing something that generated enough heat to negatively affect the tenant 's paper.The tenant sued the landlord for , uh , for whatever .
The judge decided for the landlord , saying that the heat-generating activity was " reasonable " , and that if the tenant wanted protection from something reasonable , he would have to negotiate it in the rental agreement.So , I figure that using WiFi is " reasonable " , so the neighbor has no case.Oh , also , the guy is nucking futs , so that will probably work against him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This question has been settled law for a long, long time.
I am not a lawyer, so I forget the court case, but I'm aware of a case where a landlord rented an upper room to a tenant, with permission for the tenant to practice his occupation, which was making specialty paper.
Meanwhile, downstairs, the landlord was doing something that generated enough heat to negatively affect the tenant's paper.The tenant sued the landlord for, uh, for whatever.
The judge decided for the landlord, saying that the heat-generating activity was "reasonable", and that if the tenant wanted protection from something reasonable, he would have to negotiate it in the rental agreement.So, I figure that using WiFi is "reasonable", so the neighbor has no case.Oh, also, the guy is nucking futs, so that will probably work against him.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672128</id>
	<title>Re:Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>LingNoi</author>
	<datestamp>1269968160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the article the guy knew that she uses wifi, etc. So an equivalent argument would be if you knew I play rock at 2 am in the morning and you then told me about the house next door being up for rent with the intention to sue me later on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the article the guy knew that she uses wifi , etc .
So an equivalent argument would be if you knew I play rock at 2 am in the morning and you then told me about the house next door being up for rent with the intention to sue me later on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the article the guy knew that she uses wifi, etc.
So an equivalent argument would be if you knew I play rock at 2 am in the morning and you then told me about the house next door being up for rent with the intention to sue me later on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31675760</id>
	<title>Fanta Se</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269980940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is Santa Fe for you.  Home of "pets in motor vehicles must wear seat-belts" and the woman who, for nearly a decade, was angry at David Letterman for sending signals through the TV set about his secret desire to marry her.   GET ME OUTTA HERE!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is Santa Fe for you .
Home of " pets in motor vehicles must wear seat-belts " and the woman who , for nearly a decade , was angry at David Letterman for sending signals through the TV set about his secret desire to marry her .
GET ME OUTTA HERE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is Santa Fe for you.
Home of "pets in motor vehicles must wear seat-belts" and the woman who, for nearly a decade, was angry at David Letterman for sending signals through the TV set about his secret desire to marry her.
GET ME OUTTA HERE!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670750</id>
	<title>Can he tell when it is on and when it is off?</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1269964260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Put him in a room. Set up a router in the next room. Randomly turn the router on and off. If the guy can't tell when it is on and when it is off, he is faking it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Put him in a room .
Set up a router in the next room .
Randomly turn the router on and off .
If the guy ca n't tell when it is on and when it is off , he is faking it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Put him in a room.
Set up a router in the next room.
Randomly turn the router on and off.
If the guy can't tell when it is on and when it is off, he is faking it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31675028</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Shotgun</author>
	<datestamp>1269977940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you tried to apply your "lactose intolerant" analogy, don't you suppose your opponent would point out that the makers of your favorite foods don't project those foods into your home against your wishes?</p></div><p>And yet, consider the American's With Disabilities Act.</p><p>You won't get off your fat ass for years, to the point that you become morbidly obese.  Now it is my responsibility to ensure that you have a ramp that you can drive your government bought electric wheelchair up to get into my nightclub.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you tried to apply your " lactose intolerant " analogy , do n't you suppose your opponent would point out that the makers of your favorite foods do n't project those foods into your home against your wishes ? And yet , consider the American 's With Disabilities Act.You wo n't get off your fat ass for years , to the point that you become morbidly obese .
Now it is my responsibility to ensure that you have a ramp that you can drive your government bought electric wheelchair up to get into my nightclub .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you tried to apply your "lactose intolerant" analogy, don't you suppose your opponent would point out that the makers of your favorite foods don't project those foods into your home against your wishes?And yet, consider the American's With Disabilities Act.You won't get off your fat ass for years, to the point that you become morbidly obese.
Now it is my responsibility to ensure that you have a ramp that you can drive your government bought electric wheelchair up to get into my nightclub.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671032</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>UnknowingFool</author>
	<datestamp>1269965160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's just artificial sources.  The earth is bombarded by radio waves, gamma rays, etc. all the time from outer space.  To avoid all EM, you'd have to find a deep cave with heavy shielding rock miles into the earth's crust.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's just artificial sources .
The earth is bombarded by radio waves , gamma rays , etc .
all the time from outer space .
To avoid all EM , you 'd have to find a deep cave with heavy shielding rock miles into the earth 's crust .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's just artificial sources.
The earth is bombarded by radio waves, gamma rays, etc.
all the time from outer space.
To avoid all EM, you'd have to find a deep cave with heavy shielding rock miles into the earth's crust.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673932</id>
	<title>Re:How to tell if he's a liar</title>
	<author>Myopic</author>
	<datestamp>1269973860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's an easier way to tell if he is a liar:</p><p>1) If he makes absurd implausible claims which have already been tested and found to be bogus, he's a liar.</p><p>Phew, that's four steps easier than your way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's an easier way to tell if he is a liar : 1 ) If he makes absurd implausible claims which have already been tested and found to be bogus , he 's a liar.Phew , that 's four steps easier than your way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's an easier way to tell if he is a liar:1) If he makes absurd implausible claims which have already been tested and found to be bogus, he's a liar.Phew, that's four steps easier than your way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671480</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269966420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Say you have a severe pollen allergy. Can you sue your neighbors because they refuse to remove certain plants from their property?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Say you have a severe pollen allergy .
Can you sue your neighbors because they refuse to remove certain plants from their property ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Say you have a severe pollen allergy.
Can you sue your neighbors because they refuse to remove certain plants from their property?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674414</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>hduff</author>
	<datestamp>1269975540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a licensed amateur radio operator, I've seen this phenomenon for decades.</p><p>30 years ago, a friend salvaged a 40-foot tall antenna tower, obtained the required permits to install it and did so, but he had to wait to save enough money to purchase an actual multi-band antenna to place on it. In the meantime, his neighbor hauled him into small claims court, saying this "huge antenna" was interfering with TV reception by making his television "say" things like "breaker one nine, good buddy" (ie, it was CB'ers, not ham radio operators, causing the interference). I helped my friend prepare his defense and as a result, the judge almost got all the word "dumbass" out before he stopped himself and dismissed the suit. The crotchety neighbor dismissed all our evidence and stated until his dying day that there was a conspiracy to deprive him of his rights and drive him crazy (like he needed help).</p><p>So giving attention to it only makes rationale people more aware. The crazy remain morons until they die.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a licensed amateur radio operator , I 've seen this phenomenon for decades.30 years ago , a friend salvaged a 40-foot tall antenna tower , obtained the required permits to install it and did so , but he had to wait to save enough money to purchase an actual multi-band antenna to place on it .
In the meantime , his neighbor hauled him into small claims court , saying this " huge antenna " was interfering with TV reception by making his television " say " things like " breaker one nine , good buddy " ( ie , it was CB'ers , not ham radio operators , causing the interference ) .
I helped my friend prepare his defense and as a result , the judge almost got all the word " dumbass " out before he stopped himself and dismissed the suit .
The crotchety neighbor dismissed all our evidence and stated until his dying day that there was a conspiracy to deprive him of his rights and drive him crazy ( like he needed help ) .So giving attention to it only makes rationale people more aware .
The crazy remain morons until they die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a licensed amateur radio operator, I've seen this phenomenon for decades.30 years ago, a friend salvaged a 40-foot tall antenna tower, obtained the required permits to install it and did so, but he had to wait to save enough money to purchase an actual multi-band antenna to place on it.
In the meantime, his neighbor hauled him into small claims court, saying this "huge antenna" was interfering with TV reception by making his television "say" things like "breaker one nine, good buddy" (ie, it was CB'ers, not ham radio operators, causing the interference).
I helped my friend prepare his defense and as a result, the judge almost got all the word "dumbass" out before he stopped himself and dismissed the suit.
The crotchety neighbor dismissed all our evidence and stated until his dying day that there was a conspiracy to deprive him of his rights and drive him crazy (like he needed help).So giving attention to it only makes rationale people more aware.
The crazy remain morons until they die.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673038</id>
	<title>Re:Samer Theory</title>
	<author>Fantastic Lad</author>
	<datestamp>1269971040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just a couple of points. . .</p><p>The high-pitched whine TV's emit, (and which I was surprised to learn, many people cannot hear!), are often explained as being loose coils in power supplies which vibrate at the induction frequency, which basically makes the coils into speakers.  It's audio, rather than EM.</p><p>Although. . , using an EM frequency to stimulate the nerve in the ear itself can be used to put a voice signal into somebody's head without vibrating air at all.  It would be interesting to learn if that might not be going on in the case of some whining electronics.</p><p>But anyway. . .</p><p>I find that the experiences I've had with feeling the EM spectrum comes in a different form altogether.  -I remember blithely walking into one of those department stores in a mall, and suddenly being nearly knocked on my arse.  -It felt like I'd walked into a field of fuzz.  Everything went dizzy and. . , it's hard to describe, but it was very strong.  -Like when you take two North ends of two magnets and try to push them together. . , if my entire head had been the one of those magnets, that's sort of how it felt, but not in a physically resistive way.  Anyway, I actually yelped out loud and staggered backwards, dazed.  Then my head was instantly clear again.</p><p>I looked around trying to figure out what had just happened, and then realized that directly above that spot was a HUGE black &amp; white television from the 70's with a security camera feed displayed on it.  You know the kind, "We can see if you shoplift!"</p><p>Anyway, I was pretty blown away.  I tried moving into and out of that field, and you could really <i>feel</i> it.  My girlfriend was also very aware of it.  It was really neat actually, like playing with a real-life force field.  I don't know if I am sensitive to such things all the time; I'd certainly never experienced anything like that so intensely with consumer electronics before.  Maybe my blood iron was really high that day or something.  I'll have to head back to that mall sometime to check it out again.</p><p>Anyway, my suspicion is that even when we are not consciously aware of the influence of EM pollution, that it affects us nonetheless and that since it is affecting the brain, measuring it becomes tricky.  Brain malfunctions can be hard to detect in oneself.  It takes others observing objectively to really know.</p><p>-FL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just a couple of points .
. .The high-pitched whine TV 's emit , ( and which I was surprised to learn , many people can not hear !
) , are often explained as being loose coils in power supplies which vibrate at the induction frequency , which basically makes the coils into speakers .
It 's audio , rather than EM.Although .
. , using an EM frequency to stimulate the nerve in the ear itself can be used to put a voice signal into somebody 's head without vibrating air at all .
It would be interesting to learn if that might not be going on in the case of some whining electronics.But anyway .
. .I find that the experiences I 've had with feeling the EM spectrum comes in a different form altogether .
-I remember blithely walking into one of those department stores in a mall , and suddenly being nearly knocked on my arse .
-It felt like I 'd walked into a field of fuzz .
Everything went dizzy and .
. , it 's hard to describe , but it was very strong .
-Like when you take two North ends of two magnets and try to push them together .
. , if my entire head had been the one of those magnets , that 's sort of how it felt , but not in a physically resistive way .
Anyway , I actually yelped out loud and staggered backwards , dazed .
Then my head was instantly clear again.I looked around trying to figure out what had just happened , and then realized that directly above that spot was a HUGE black &amp; white television from the 70 's with a security camera feed displayed on it .
You know the kind , " We can see if you shoplift !
" Anyway , I was pretty blown away .
I tried moving into and out of that field , and you could really feel it .
My girlfriend was also very aware of it .
It was really neat actually , like playing with a real-life force field .
I do n't know if I am sensitive to such things all the time ; I 'd certainly never experienced anything like that so intensely with consumer electronics before .
Maybe my blood iron was really high that day or something .
I 'll have to head back to that mall sometime to check it out again.Anyway , my suspicion is that even when we are not consciously aware of the influence of EM pollution , that it affects us nonetheless and that since it is affecting the brain , measuring it becomes tricky .
Brain malfunctions can be hard to detect in oneself .
It takes others observing objectively to really know.-FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just a couple of points.
. .The high-pitched whine TV's emit, (and which I was surprised to learn, many people cannot hear!
), are often explained as being loose coils in power supplies which vibrate at the induction frequency, which basically makes the coils into speakers.
It's audio, rather than EM.Although.
. , using an EM frequency to stimulate the nerve in the ear itself can be used to put a voice signal into somebody's head without vibrating air at all.
It would be interesting to learn if that might not be going on in the case of some whining electronics.But anyway.
. .I find that the experiences I've had with feeling the EM spectrum comes in a different form altogether.
-I remember blithely walking into one of those department stores in a mall, and suddenly being nearly knocked on my arse.
-It felt like I'd walked into a field of fuzz.
Everything went dizzy and.
. , it's hard to describe, but it was very strong.
-Like when you take two North ends of two magnets and try to push them together.
. , if my entire head had been the one of those magnets, that's sort of how it felt, but not in a physically resistive way.
Anyway, I actually yelped out loud and staggered backwards, dazed.
Then my head was instantly clear again.I looked around trying to figure out what had just happened, and then realized that directly above that spot was a HUGE black &amp; white television from the 70's with a security camera feed displayed on it.
You know the kind, "We can see if you shoplift!
"Anyway, I was pretty blown away.
I tried moving into and out of that field, and you could really feel it.
My girlfriend was also very aware of it.
It was really neat actually, like playing with a real-life force field.
I don't know if I am sensitive to such things all the time; I'd certainly never experienced anything like that so intensely with consumer electronics before.
Maybe my blood iron was really high that day or something.
I'll have to head back to that mall sometime to check it out again.Anyway, my suspicion is that even when we are not consciously aware of the influence of EM pollution, that it affects us nonetheless and that since it is affecting the brain, measuring it becomes tricky.
Brain malfunctions can be hard to detect in oneself.
It takes others observing objectively to really know.-FL</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Can you even sue your neighbor for this stuff?</title>
	<author>Locklin</author>
	<datestamp>1269966540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you release some toxic gas from your house in sufficient quantities to impact the health of your neighbors then, yes, you will likely face a losing court battle. In the case of EM and curry, I'm sure they would have a hard time proving in court that they are, in fact, being made ill by your proximity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you release some toxic gas from your house in sufficient quantities to impact the health of your neighbors then , yes , you will likely face a losing court battle .
In the case of EM and curry , I 'm sure they would have a hard time proving in court that they are , in fact , being made ill by your proximity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you release some toxic gas from your house in sufficient quantities to impact the health of your neighbors then, yes, you will likely face a losing court battle.
In the case of EM and curry, I'm sure they would have a hard time proving in court that they are, in fact, being made ill by your proximity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670524</id>
	<title>Re:Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1269963660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>From the summary:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason, and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights."'"</p></div><p>Ok, so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all. But really? Running a router is now a basic human right? A little melodramatic don't you think?</p></div><p>Well, some places are declaring Internet access a human right...</p><p>But I don't think that's really the point.</p><p>Generally speaking, you're allowed to do what you want within the confines of your own house.  Of course you still can't murder people and whatnot...  But it's a little unusual for your neighbors to be able to dictate what kind of telephone you use, and whether your Internet connection is wired or wireless, or whether you can own or use a cell phone.  Those are all liberties that we pretty much take for granted.</p></div>
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<tokenext>From the summary : " I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason , and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights .
" ' " Ok , so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all .
But really ?
Running a router is now a basic human right ?
A little melodramatic do n't you think ? Well , some places are declaring Internet access a human right...But I do n't think that 's really the point.Generally speaking , you 're allowed to do what you want within the confines of your own house .
Of course you still ca n't murder people and whatnot... But it 's a little unusual for your neighbors to be able to dictate what kind of telephone you use , and whether your Internet connection is wired or wireless , or whether you can own or use a cell phone .
Those are all liberties that we pretty much take for granted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the summary:"I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason, and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights.
"'"Ok, so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all.
But really?
Running a router is now a basic human right?
A little melodramatic don't you think?Well, some places are declaring Internet access a human right...But I don't think that's really the point.Generally speaking, you're allowed to do what you want within the confines of your own house.
Of course you still can't murder people and whatnot...  But it's a little unusual for your neighbors to be able to dictate what kind of telephone you use, and whether your Internet connection is wired or wireless, or whether you can own or use a cell phone.
Those are all liberties that we pretty much take for granted.
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	<title>Re:Um...</title>
	<author>Piquan</author>
	<datestamp>1269952080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Someone better not tell this guy that cell towers are omnidirectional so he'll experience that radiation regardless.</p></div><p>But the radiation is subject to an inverse-square law.  A high-power source at a considerable distance (the tower) can give this guy less radiation than a low-power source at a close distance (her cell phone), as Opportunist's dad pointed out.</p><p>As an example: the guy is probably in a near-rural area, if he's trying to get away from radiation, on the outskirts of town.  In hilly country, Wikipedia says a rural area can get a maximum of 5-8km.  Let's say he's 5km away.  (This is Santa Fe, so it's not exactly hill country, but it's probably not exactly totally rural either.)  Let's also say the tower is using the regulatory maximum of 2000W output.  (Most use much, much less, and I don't remember if modern cell towers are even allowed to use 2kW.  But it's no more than that.)  Using I=P/(4*pi*r^2), we see that the intensity at his house from the tower is 6.37 uW / m^2.</p><p>Her cell phone, if it's GSM, is capped at 2W output.  The article doesn't say how far apart their houses are; just "on the next block".  I'm going to just guess 150m away.  (Manhattan blocks are 80m x 200m; central Melbourne blocks are 100m x 200m.)  Using the same formula, the radiation intensity from her cell phone is 7.07 uW / m^2.  With this set of assumptions, her cellphone could be irradiating him more than the tower (at peak; of course, she's probably not continuously on her phone).</p><p>The actual numbers are probably vastly different; different assumptions can change these by orders of magnitude.  I'm ignoring modern cell realities, too: cell towers tend to be much lower power, but closer together these days.  They also tend to use a non-uniform radiation pattern, not wasting power by radiating cell signals at the birds.  Cell phones rarely radiate 2W of power.  There's lots of other stuff that means that my numbers aren't anywhere near right, but it does demonstrate that it's POSSIBLE that her cell phone gives him more radiation than the tower.</p><p>Then again, the sun provides 750 W / m^2 to the ground (after atmospheric effects), a hundred million times more intense radiation (remember, my other numbers were in microwatts per meter squared), and at higher frequencies.  So yeah.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Someone better not tell this guy that cell towers are omnidirectional so he 'll experience that radiation regardless.But the radiation is subject to an inverse-square law .
A high-power source at a considerable distance ( the tower ) can give this guy less radiation than a low-power source at a close distance ( her cell phone ) , as Opportunist 's dad pointed out.As an example : the guy is probably in a near-rural area , if he 's trying to get away from radiation , on the outskirts of town .
In hilly country , Wikipedia says a rural area can get a maximum of 5-8km .
Let 's say he 's 5km away .
( This is Santa Fe , so it 's not exactly hill country , but it 's probably not exactly totally rural either .
) Let 's also say the tower is using the regulatory maximum of 2000W output .
( Most use much , much less , and I do n't remember if modern cell towers are even allowed to use 2kW .
But it 's no more than that .
) Using I = P/ ( 4 * pi * r ^ 2 ) , we see that the intensity at his house from the tower is 6.37 uW / m ^ 2.Her cell phone , if it 's GSM , is capped at 2W output .
The article does n't say how far apart their houses are ; just " on the next block " .
I 'm going to just guess 150m away .
( Manhattan blocks are 80m x 200m ; central Melbourne blocks are 100m x 200m .
) Using the same formula , the radiation intensity from her cell phone is 7.07 uW / m ^ 2 .
With this set of assumptions , her cellphone could be irradiating him more than the tower ( at peak ; of course , she 's probably not continuously on her phone ) .The actual numbers are probably vastly different ; different assumptions can change these by orders of magnitude .
I 'm ignoring modern cell realities , too : cell towers tend to be much lower power , but closer together these days .
They also tend to use a non-uniform radiation pattern , not wasting power by radiating cell signals at the birds .
Cell phones rarely radiate 2W of power .
There 's lots of other stuff that means that my numbers are n't anywhere near right , but it does demonstrate that it 's POSSIBLE that her cell phone gives him more radiation than the tower.Then again , the sun provides 750 W / m ^ 2 to the ground ( after atmospheric effects ) , a hundred million times more intense radiation ( remember , my other numbers were in microwatts per meter squared ) , and at higher frequencies .
So yeah .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone better not tell this guy that cell towers are omnidirectional so he'll experience that radiation regardless.But the radiation is subject to an inverse-square law.
A high-power source at a considerable distance (the tower) can give this guy less radiation than a low-power source at a close distance (her cell phone), as Opportunist's dad pointed out.As an example: the guy is probably in a near-rural area, if he's trying to get away from radiation, on the outskirts of town.
In hilly country, Wikipedia says a rural area can get a maximum of 5-8km.
Let's say he's 5km away.
(This is Santa Fe, so it's not exactly hill country, but it's probably not exactly totally rural either.
)  Let's also say the tower is using the regulatory maximum of 2000W output.
(Most use much, much less, and I don't remember if modern cell towers are even allowed to use 2kW.
But it's no more than that.
)  Using I=P/(4*pi*r^2), we see that the intensity at his house from the tower is 6.37 uW / m^2.Her cell phone, if it's GSM, is capped at 2W output.
The article doesn't say how far apart their houses are; just "on the next block".
I'm going to just guess 150m away.
(Manhattan blocks are 80m x 200m; central Melbourne blocks are 100m x 200m.
)  Using the same formula, the radiation intensity from her cell phone is 7.07 uW / m^2.
With this set of assumptions, her cellphone could be irradiating him more than the tower (at peak; of course, she's probably not continuously on her phone).The actual numbers are probably vastly different; different assumptions can change these by orders of magnitude.
I'm ignoring modern cell realities, too: cell towers tend to be much lower power, but closer together these days.
They also tend to use a non-uniform radiation pattern, not wasting power by radiating cell signals at the birds.
Cell phones rarely radiate 2W of power.
There's lots of other stuff that means that my numbers aren't anywhere near right, but it does demonstrate that it's POSSIBLE that her cell phone gives him more radiation than the tower.Then again, the sun provides 750 W / m^2 to the ground (after atmospheric effects), a hundred million times more intense radiation (remember, my other numbers were in microwatts per meter squared), and at higher frequencies.
So yeah.
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	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>julesh</author>
	<datestamp>1269975180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>To avoid all EM, you'd have to find a deep cave with heavy shielding rock miles into the earth's crust.</i></p><p>Yeah, but you'd better watch out for the neutron decay from all that rock.  Seriously, that stuff's dangerous.  Gives off radiation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To avoid all EM , you 'd have to find a deep cave with heavy shielding rock miles into the earth 's crust.Yeah , but you 'd better watch out for the neutron decay from all that rock .
Seriously , that stuff 's dangerous .
Gives off radiation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To avoid all EM, you'd have to find a deep cave with heavy shielding rock miles into the earth's crust.Yeah, but you'd better watch out for the neutron decay from all that rock.
Seriously, that stuff's dangerous.
Gives off radiation.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Not enough</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1270063320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>She really needs to get a large HAM rig set up running at 1500 Watts---maybe even with an antenna just under the city limits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>She really needs to get a large HAM rig set up running at 1500 Watts---maybe even with an antenna just under the city limits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>She really needs to get a large HAM rig set up running at 1500 Watts---maybe even with an antenna just under the city limits.</sentencetext>
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	<title>The HFCS analogy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269973080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If you tried to apply your "lactose intolerant" analogy, don't you suppose your opponent would point out that the makers of your favorite foods don't project those foods into your home against your wishes?</p></div></blockquote><p>Perhaps it's better to apply the High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup analogy instead...<br>Hard to choose products that don't have HFCS in them these days so it might be a fair argument that it's being projected into your home against your wishes...</p><p>Or perhaps if your next door neighbor had a peanut allergy and you sat in your back porch and shucked peanut shells.</p><p>Or maybe your next door neighbor had a hay-fever allergies to the flowers you planted.</p><p>Not saying that this EM-boy hoax has a case, but there are plenty of analogies that might work better than Lactose intolerance...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you tried to apply your " lactose intolerant " analogy , do n't you suppose your opponent would point out that the makers of your favorite foods do n't project those foods into your home against your wishes ? Perhaps it 's better to apply the High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup analogy instead...Hard to choose products that do n't have HFCS in them these days so it might be a fair argument that it 's being projected into your home against your wishes...Or perhaps if your next door neighbor had a peanut allergy and you sat in your back porch and shucked peanut shells.Or maybe your next door neighbor had a hay-fever allergies to the flowers you planted.Not saying that this EM-boy hoax has a case , but there are plenty of analogies that might work better than Lactose intolerance.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you tried to apply your "lactose intolerant" analogy, don't you suppose your opponent would point out that the makers of your favorite foods don't project those foods into your home against your wishes?Perhaps it's better to apply the High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup analogy instead...Hard to choose products that don't have HFCS in them these days so it might be a fair argument that it's being projected into your home against your wishes...Or perhaps if your next door neighbor had a peanut allergy and you sat in your back porch and shucked peanut shells.Or maybe your next door neighbor had a hay-fever allergies to the flowers you planted.Not saying that this EM-boy hoax has a case, but there are plenty of analogies that might work better than Lactose intolerance...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674176</id>
	<title>Re:So presumably a lawyer took this case</title>
	<author>Imrik</author>
	<datestamp>1269974700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your argument is reasonable for criminal charges, but in those cases the prosecutor is generally paid by the state.  For civil charges a lawyer has the choice of whether to take the case and should have some responsibility to not take cases that are frivolous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your argument is reasonable for criminal charges , but in those cases the prosecutor is generally paid by the state .
For civil charges a lawyer has the choice of whether to take the case and should have some responsibility to not take cases that are frivolous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your argument is reasonable for criminal charges, but in those cases the prosecutor is generally paid by the state.
For civil charges a lawyer has the choice of whether to take the case and should have some responsibility to not take cases that are frivolous.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671192</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671672</id>
	<title>I think the defendent is the idiot...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269966960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All she had to do was tell her neighbor that she shut off all her wifi and is no longer using any electronic devices.  then in the privacy of her own home continued to use wifi and this loon would never have known.  problem solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All she had to do was tell her neighbor that she shut off all her wifi and is no longer using any electronic devices .
then in the privacy of her own home continued to use wifi and this loon would never have known .
problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All she had to do was tell her neighbor that she shut off all her wifi and is no longer using any electronic devices.
then in the privacy of her own home continued to use wifi and this loon would never have known.
problem solved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671274</id>
	<title>Turn off your SSID broadcast</title>
	<author>timholman</author>
	<datestamp>1269965880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As others have pointed out in similar cases, what she could have done was turn off the SSID broadcast on her router.  As far as he would be concerned, the wireless signal would be "off" and his symptoms would abate.</p><p>On the other hand, it is generally pointless to try to compromise with a crazy person.  She might be better off sticking to her guns and countersuing him for harassment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As others have pointed out in similar cases , what she could have done was turn off the SSID broadcast on her router .
As far as he would be concerned , the wireless signal would be " off " and his symptoms would abate.On the other hand , it is generally pointless to try to compromise with a crazy person .
She might be better off sticking to her guns and countersuing him for harassment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As others have pointed out in similar cases, what she could have done was turn off the SSID broadcast on her router.
As far as he would be concerned, the wireless signal would be "off" and his symptoms would abate.On the other hand, it is generally pointless to try to compromise with a crazy person.
She might be better off sticking to her guns and countersuing him for harassment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674548</id>
	<title>Re:I think I have a solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269976020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why on earth would you use gold?  Aluminum and Copper are ample conductors for a Faraday cage and MUCH cheaper.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p><p>I think even high purity copper is like $9 per pound.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why on earth would you use gold ?
Aluminum and Copper are ample conductors for a Faraday cage and MUCH cheaper .
: PI think even high purity copper is like $ 9 per pound .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why on earth would you use gold?
Aluminum and Copper are ample conductors for a Faraday cage and MUCH cheaper.
:PI think even high purity copper is like $9 per pound.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674692</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>penguin\_dance</author>
	<datestamp>1269976560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I disagree with your sentiment. If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly. They often think twice before acting stupidly again.</i></p><p>Not if this person is suffering from some sort of mental illness, which is possible in this case. What needs to happen is if the person has mental issues, the judge should throw out the case immediately and he should get some help. If he's just an asshole he should pay a fine and any legal fees for a frivolous lawsuit.</p><p>What's so stupid about this is there are going to be cell and wifi waves anywhere he goes unless he moves to some 3rd world country. Makes me wonder if he just wants to make the neighbor move.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree with your sentiment .
If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly .
They often think twice before acting stupidly again.Not if this person is suffering from some sort of mental illness , which is possible in this case .
What needs to happen is if the person has mental issues , the judge should throw out the case immediately and he should get some help .
If he 's just an asshole he should pay a fine and any legal fees for a frivolous lawsuit.What 's so stupid about this is there are going to be cell and wifi waves anywhere he goes unless he moves to some 3rd world country .
Makes me wonder if he just wants to make the neighbor move .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree with your sentiment.
If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly.
They often think twice before acting stupidly again.Not if this person is suffering from some sort of mental illness, which is possible in this case.
What needs to happen is if the person has mental issues, the judge should throw out the case immediately and he should get some help.
If he's just an asshole he should pay a fine and any legal fees for a frivolous lawsuit.What's so stupid about this is there are going to be cell and wifi waves anywhere he goes unless he moves to some 3rd world country.
Makes me wonder if he just wants to make the neighbor move.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670232</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674806</id>
	<title>Re:She's an idiot...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269976980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're an idiot.  Think for two fucking seconds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're an idiot .
Think for two fucking seconds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're an idiot.
Think for two fucking seconds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671108</id>
	<title>Re:use UTP then</title>
	<author>Tim C</author>
	<datestamp>1269965400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, but I'm not running cabling all over my house and connecting/disconnecting my laptop as I go from lounge to kitchen to bedroom (etc) just because my neighbour has an imaginary sensitivity to electromagnetic radiation.</p><p>If he can prove this sensitivity to the satisfaction of an impartial third-party expert (e.g. a medical doctor or similar) then we can talk. Until that happens, I'm going to dismiss his claims as bullshit based on the fact that we are all permanently bathed in EM radiation of both natural and man-made origin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but I 'm not running cabling all over my house and connecting/disconnecting my laptop as I go from lounge to kitchen to bedroom ( etc ) just because my neighbour has an imaginary sensitivity to electromagnetic radiation.If he can prove this sensitivity to the satisfaction of an impartial third-party expert ( e.g .
a medical doctor or similar ) then we can talk .
Until that happens , I 'm going to dismiss his claims as bullshit based on the fact that we are all permanently bathed in EM radiation of both natural and man-made origin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but I'm not running cabling all over my house and connecting/disconnecting my laptop as I go from lounge to kitchen to bedroom (etc) just because my neighbour has an imaginary sensitivity to electromagnetic radiation.If he can prove this sensitivity to the satisfaction of an impartial third-party expert (e.g.
a medical doctor or similar) then we can talk.
Until that happens, I'm going to dismiss his claims as bullshit based on the fact that we are all permanently bathed in EM radiation of both natural and man-made origin.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670374</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671284</id>
	<title>Countersue for fraud</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1269965940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Electromagnetic sensitivity has been thoroughly debunked as a complete bullshit myth. The guy would have better grounds to sue his neighbors for psychic interference by setting him on fire in their imagination (which they doubtlessly do).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Electromagnetic sensitivity has been thoroughly debunked as a complete bullshit myth .
The guy would have better grounds to sue his neighbors for psychic interference by setting him on fire in their imagination ( which they doubtlessly do ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Electromagnetic sensitivity has been thoroughly debunked as a complete bullshit myth.
The guy would have better grounds to sue his neighbors for psychic interference by setting him on fire in their imagination (which they doubtlessly do).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670476</id>
	<title>it's not so funny</title>
	<author>meflo</author>
	<datestamp>1269963480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...when you are the victim. Don't know for an Wireless AP but I go real headaches from a telco's base station. It was as close as 70 meters from my appartment and although it was 4 storeys higher than my home it still made me sick. And the most interesting part: while climbing the stairs to my appartment going through the floors when I was getting near my floor the nasty sensation was setting off. So the guy may be in his right. All he did was to buy a house and then waited till somebody started making him sick. Why don't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...when you are the victim .
Do n't know for an Wireless AP but I go real headaches from a telco 's base station .
It was as close as 70 meters from my appartment and although it was 4 storeys higher than my home it still made me sick .
And the most interesting part : while climbing the stairs to my appartment going through the floors when I was getting near my floor the nasty sensation was setting off .
So the guy may be in his right .
All he did was to buy a house and then waited till somebody started making him sick .
Why do n't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...when you are the victim.
Don't know for an Wireless AP but I go real headaches from a telco's base station.
It was as close as 70 meters from my appartment and although it was 4 storeys higher than my home it still made me sick.
And the most interesting part: while climbing the stairs to my appartment going through the floors when I was getting near my floor the nasty sensation was setting off.
So the guy may be in his right.
All he did was to buy a house and then waited till somebody started making him sick.
Why don't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671760</id>
	<title>time to relocate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269967140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the people should be able to legally relocate this man to the Amish Country.  Obviously it would be for the better good for all persons involved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the people should be able to legally relocate this man to the Amish Country .
Obviously it would be for the better good for all persons involved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the people should be able to legally relocate this man to the Amish Country.
Obviously it would be for the better good for all persons involved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671098</id>
	<title>Re:use UTP then</title>
	<author>confused one</author>
	<datestamp>1269965340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I insist you (my neighbor) not use cell phones.  Or cordless phones of any kind.  And  your microwave oven -- That 1500 watt transmitter sends me into convulsions.  And for heavens sake, turn off that computer, because it has a 2GHz processor.  You're cable TV system <i>must</i> be leaking because I have a headache.  The LNB in your satellite dish is screaming at me, please don't use your satellite system.  </p><p>All these devices generate RF in the 2-3GHz range.  Point is, this insanity has no limits.  It needs to be stopped.  </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I insist you ( my neighbor ) not use cell phones .
Or cordless phones of any kind .
And your microwave oven -- That 1500 watt transmitter sends me into convulsions .
And for heavens sake , turn off that computer , because it has a 2GHz processor .
You 're cable TV system must be leaking because I have a headache .
The LNB in your satellite dish is screaming at me , please do n't use your satellite system .
All these devices generate RF in the 2-3GHz range .
Point is , this insanity has no limits .
It needs to be stopped .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I insist you (my neighbor) not use cell phones.
Or cordless phones of any kind.
And  your microwave oven -- That 1500 watt transmitter sends me into convulsions.
And for heavens sake, turn off that computer, because it has a 2GHz processor.
You're cable TV system must be leaking because I have a headache.
The LNB in your satellite dish is screaming at me, please don't use your satellite system.
All these devices generate RF in the 2-3GHz range.
Point is, this insanity has no limits.
It needs to be stopped.  </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672312</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>muridae</author>
	<datestamp>1269968700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why don't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless?</p></div><p>Because it is much simpler to put his house in a Faraday cage, rather then first renovate this woman's rented house, and then the other neighbor that he sees with a wireless phone. And some time later another neighbor whom he finds out owns a cell phone.</p><p>Did you test yourself to find out if it was the wireless radiation from the base station? Maybe vibrations from it instead, or maybe some mold/dust/CO or something else in the apartment complex. Allergy to the neighbor's incense of choice. The onus is really on this guy to prove not only that he is sensitive to wifi and cellular signals but that this woman is the source of the problem. Maybe another neighbor has a AP running, but not broadcasting any SSID, his computer might not spot that. And if he uses a computer to find the access points, someone really needs to point out that the wireless card will be broadcasting at the same exact frequency. The radiation from a cellphone in her house is going to be pretty low compared to the electrical noise from light bulbs in his house, or any AC-DC transformers, or AC motor. If he is only sensitive to certain frequencies like wifi, then the microwaves in just about all of his neighbors houses could be a bigger source. They don't leak much, for safety reasons, but they not leak enough to annoy a cell or wireless signal. Which should put the energy level close enough in power to bother him, if this is real.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless ? Because it is much simpler to put his house in a Faraday cage , rather then first renovate this woman 's rented house , and then the other neighbor that he sees with a wireless phone .
And some time later another neighbor whom he finds out owns a cell phone.Did you test yourself to find out if it was the wireless radiation from the base station ?
Maybe vibrations from it instead , or maybe some mold/dust/CO or something else in the apartment complex .
Allergy to the neighbor 's incense of choice .
The onus is really on this guy to prove not only that he is sensitive to wifi and cellular signals but that this woman is the source of the problem .
Maybe another neighbor has a AP running , but not broadcasting any SSID , his computer might not spot that .
And if he uses a computer to find the access points , someone really needs to point out that the wireless card will be broadcasting at the same exact frequency .
The radiation from a cellphone in her house is going to be pretty low compared to the electrical noise from light bulbs in his house , or any AC-DC transformers , or AC motor .
If he is only sensitive to certain frequencies like wifi , then the microwaves in just about all of his neighbors houses could be a bigger source .
They do n't leak much , for safety reasons , but they not leak enough to annoy a cell or wireless signal .
Which should put the energy level close enough in power to bother him , if this is real .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless?Because it is much simpler to put his house in a Faraday cage, rather then first renovate this woman's rented house, and then the other neighbor that he sees with a wireless phone.
And some time later another neighbor whom he finds out owns a cell phone.Did you test yourself to find out if it was the wireless radiation from the base station?
Maybe vibrations from it instead, or maybe some mold/dust/CO or something else in the apartment complex.
Allergy to the neighbor's incense of choice.
The onus is really on this guy to prove not only that he is sensitive to wifi and cellular signals but that this woman is the source of the problem.
Maybe another neighbor has a AP running, but not broadcasting any SSID, his computer might not spot that.
And if he uses a computer to find the access points, someone really needs to point out that the wireless card will be broadcasting at the same exact frequency.
The radiation from a cellphone in her house is going to be pretty low compared to the electrical noise from light bulbs in his house, or any AC-DC transformers, or AC motor.
If he is only sensitive to certain frequencies like wifi, then the microwaves in just about all of his neighbors houses could be a bigger source.
They don't leak much, for safety reasons, but they not leak enough to annoy a cell or wireless signal.
Which should put the energy level close enough in power to bother him, if this is real.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670926</id>
	<title>Nutty neighbor</title>
	<author>mark-t</author>
	<datestamp>1269964920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He feels his life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason?  First of all, the reason he is being subjected to this radiation (not saying that it is an attack) is because  he lives in the 21st century in a metropolitan area in North America.  I can count on my fingers the number of places I've been to in my city where there is no perceptable wifi signal.  It's pretty much everywhere.  Secondly, he's perfectly free to move to a locale that is far enough away from everybody else that he wouldn't have to deal with it.  His persecution is more self-inflicted than caused by any of his neighbor's actions... and that's even *IF* I give him the benefit of the doubt that he is actually sensitive to such things.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He feels his life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason ?
First of all , the reason he is being subjected to this radiation ( not saying that it is an attack ) is because he lives in the 21st century in a metropolitan area in North America .
I can count on my fingers the number of places I 've been to in my city where there is no perceptable wifi signal .
It 's pretty much everywhere .
Secondly , he 's perfectly free to move to a locale that is far enough away from everybody else that he would n't have to deal with it .
His persecution is more self-inflicted than caused by any of his neighbor 's actions... and that 's even * IF * I give him the benefit of the doubt that he is actually sensitive to such things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He feels his life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason?
First of all, the reason he is being subjected to this radiation (not saying that it is an attack) is because  he lives in the 21st century in a metropolitan area in North America.
I can count on my fingers the number of places I've been to in my city where there is no perceptable wifi signal.
It's pretty much everywhere.
Secondly, he's perfectly free to move to a locale that is far enough away from everybody else that he wouldn't have to deal with it.
His persecution is more self-inflicted than caused by any of his neighbor's actions... and that's even *IF* I give him the benefit of the doubt that he is actually sensitive to such things.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671084</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Bakkster</author>
	<datestamp>1269965340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course, this could possibly be a case of the actual construction causing health issues (kicking up arsenic-laden dust, for example).  Not that it's necessarily likely the tower caused any issues (other construction would have likely caused the same issues), but I wouldn't dismiss it offhand just because regular people misattributed the vector that caused the illness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , this could possibly be a case of the actual construction causing health issues ( kicking up arsenic-laden dust , for example ) .
Not that it 's necessarily likely the tower caused any issues ( other construction would have likely caused the same issues ) , but I would n't dismiss it offhand just because regular people misattributed the vector that caused the illness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, this could possibly be a case of the actual construction causing health issues (kicking up arsenic-laden dust, for example).
Not that it's necessarily likely the tower caused any issues (other construction would have likely caused the same issues), but I wouldn't dismiss it offhand just because regular people misattributed the vector that caused the illness.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671176</id>
	<title>Samer Theory</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1269965580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually to be fair I offer the Samer Theory:</p><p>Samer, a former radar operator of some sort apparently called into AM 1500 some years ago and offered that man made electromagnetic emmissions were driving us nuts.</p><p>Now we all know (most) that electromagnetic emissions are everywhere but, as most also know there is a given distribution of natural emissions and artifical emissions.</p><p>Over millions of years of evolution humans expect and operate with a given norm of those emissions. Those normal emissions are the "White Noise" of EM emissions. Humans, only in the last century and a half have started creating emissions that operate outside that norm. The Samer theory implies that since we haven't had millions of years to adapt to these new emissions they are a form of 'noise' that stands out from the norm we are used to. We perceive this new noise if you would and it affects are behavior. We know that EM can and does influence animals, why would we be no different then? The question is, if the Samer theory holds water is what kind of atrifical EM 'noise' affects us, and how.</p><p>I suffered from headaches for years until I bought a new LCD tv. I was 'hearing' the TV's high frequencies (That damn whine from CRTS). Now with LCDs I don't hear that at all. Imagine the amount of EM that we 'hear' but don't perceive. Like a noisy room making people irritable perhaps the Samer theory holds some water in human behavior. I am not quick to discredit the plaintiffs claim (I do disagree with a lawsuit) but if this case has real scientific implications furthering the possibility of the Samer theory being sound the impact is huge. The amount of man made 'noise' from everything from AM radio, powerlines, cell phones, etc then we have a big and pressing problem of identifying what emissions influence people physically and mentally, what the impact is, and what if anything can be done about it since we've already let the genie out of the bottle...</p><p>We know that various forms of EM can affect behaviors (migration, grazing patterns, maze memory in rats, etc.) Perhaps his claim is legitimate. If so the implications warrant more then a passing "Meh" in regards to the case.</p><p>White noise we are used to, anything that stands out from it (dripping faucet, etc.) can really piss people off. I wouldn't be suprised if people have sensitivities to various forms\freq\etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually to be fair I offer the Samer Theory : Samer , a former radar operator of some sort apparently called into AM 1500 some years ago and offered that man made electromagnetic emmissions were driving us nuts.Now we all know ( most ) that electromagnetic emissions are everywhere but , as most also know there is a given distribution of natural emissions and artifical emissions.Over millions of years of evolution humans expect and operate with a given norm of those emissions .
Those normal emissions are the " White Noise " of EM emissions .
Humans , only in the last century and a half have started creating emissions that operate outside that norm .
The Samer theory implies that since we have n't had millions of years to adapt to these new emissions they are a form of 'noise ' that stands out from the norm we are used to .
We perceive this new noise if you would and it affects are behavior .
We know that EM can and does influence animals , why would we be no different then ?
The question is , if the Samer theory holds water is what kind of atrifical EM 'noise ' affects us , and how.I suffered from headaches for years until I bought a new LCD tv .
I was 'hearing ' the TV 's high frequencies ( That damn whine from CRTS ) .
Now with LCDs I do n't hear that at all .
Imagine the amount of EM that we 'hear ' but do n't perceive .
Like a noisy room making people irritable perhaps the Samer theory holds some water in human behavior .
I am not quick to discredit the plaintiffs claim ( I do disagree with a lawsuit ) but if this case has real scientific implications furthering the possibility of the Samer theory being sound the impact is huge .
The amount of man made 'noise ' from everything from AM radio , powerlines , cell phones , etc then we have a big and pressing problem of identifying what emissions influence people physically and mentally , what the impact is , and what if anything can be done about it since we 've already let the genie out of the bottle...We know that various forms of EM can affect behaviors ( migration , grazing patterns , maze memory in rats , etc .
) Perhaps his claim is legitimate .
If so the implications warrant more then a passing " Meh " in regards to the case.White noise we are used to , anything that stands out from it ( dripping faucet , etc .
) can really piss people off .
I would n't be suprised if people have sensitivities to various forms \ freq \ etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually to be fair I offer the Samer Theory:Samer, a former radar operator of some sort apparently called into AM 1500 some years ago and offered that man made electromagnetic emmissions were driving us nuts.Now we all know (most) that electromagnetic emissions are everywhere but, as most also know there is a given distribution of natural emissions and artifical emissions.Over millions of years of evolution humans expect and operate with a given norm of those emissions.
Those normal emissions are the "White Noise" of EM emissions.
Humans, only in the last century and a half have started creating emissions that operate outside that norm.
The Samer theory implies that since we haven't had millions of years to adapt to these new emissions they are a form of 'noise' that stands out from the norm we are used to.
We perceive this new noise if you would and it affects are behavior.
We know that EM can and does influence animals, why would we be no different then?
The question is, if the Samer theory holds water is what kind of atrifical EM 'noise' affects us, and how.I suffered from headaches for years until I bought a new LCD tv.
I was 'hearing' the TV's high frequencies (That damn whine from CRTS).
Now with LCDs I don't hear that at all.
Imagine the amount of EM that we 'hear' but don't perceive.
Like a noisy room making people irritable perhaps the Samer theory holds some water in human behavior.
I am not quick to discredit the plaintiffs claim (I do disagree with a lawsuit) but if this case has real scientific implications furthering the possibility of the Samer theory being sound the impact is huge.
The amount of man made 'noise' from everything from AM radio, powerlines, cell phones, etc then we have a big and pressing problem of identifying what emissions influence people physically and mentally, what the impact is, and what if anything can be done about it since we've already let the genie out of the bottle...We know that various forms of EM can affect behaviors (migration, grazing patterns, maze memory in rats, etc.
) Perhaps his claim is legitimate.
If so the implications warrant more then a passing "Meh" in regards to the case.White noise we are used to, anything that stands out from it (dripping faucet, etc.
) can really piss people off.
I wouldn't be suprised if people have sensitivities to various forms\freq\etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672140</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>brufleth</author>
	<datestamp>1269968160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There was a similar issue in Boston but with a woman who bought a place and found out smokers lived below her.  She could actually smell the smoke in her condo and claimed it made her sick.  That was a case of real detrimental environmental issues caused by a neighbor.  The courts still didn't make the smoker change their habits.  Any judge siding with this EMI sensitivity wacko needs to have their case log reviewed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There was a similar issue in Boston but with a woman who bought a place and found out smokers lived below her .
She could actually smell the smoke in her condo and claimed it made her sick .
That was a case of real detrimental environmental issues caused by a neighbor .
The courts still did n't make the smoker change their habits .
Any judge siding with this EMI sensitivity wacko needs to have their case log reviewed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was a similar issue in Boston but with a woman who bought a place and found out smokers lived below her.
She could actually smell the smoke in her condo and claimed it made her sick.
That was a case of real detrimental environmental issues caused by a neighbor.
The courts still didn't make the smoker change their habits.
Any judge siding with this EMI sensitivity wacko needs to have their case log reviewed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670382</id>
	<title>Ya know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269963180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tobaco and cocaine were originally considered harmless too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tobaco and cocaine were originally considered harmless too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tobaco and cocaine were originally considered harmless too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670756</id>
	<title>Re:Mercy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269964260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hopefully the suit will be dismissed with a minimum of fuss and expense, and the guy can get the help he probably needs.</p></div><p>This is the US legal system we're talking about here, which has never been very good at recognizing basic scientific truths. Whatever happens, this guy's poor neighbor is going to go bankrupt trying to defend herself from this baseless lawsuit. And when the case inevitably goes to appeal, the Telegraph Operators Industry Association will get on board to say that not only do cell phones and WIFI devices make people sick, they're stealing profits from all the hard-working telegraph operators of this country. Suddenly it'll be a federal case which will take 10 years to work it's way to the Supreme Court and cost far more than the $500K this man is demanding.</p><p>In all of this, you can be sure that no one is going to question this guy's reasons for trying to follow the American Dream (It's "Get Rich Quick!!" isn't it?) and the only ones to come out better for it will be the lawyers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hopefully the suit will be dismissed with a minimum of fuss and expense , and the guy can get the help he probably needs.This is the US legal system we 're talking about here , which has never been very good at recognizing basic scientific truths .
Whatever happens , this guy 's poor neighbor is going to go bankrupt trying to defend herself from this baseless lawsuit .
And when the case inevitably goes to appeal , the Telegraph Operators Industry Association will get on board to say that not only do cell phones and WIFI devices make people sick , they 're stealing profits from all the hard-working telegraph operators of this country .
Suddenly it 'll be a federal case which will take 10 years to work it 's way to the Supreme Court and cost far more than the $ 500K this man is demanding.In all of this , you can be sure that no one is going to question this guy 's reasons for trying to follow the American Dream ( It 's " Get Rich Quick ! !
" is n't it ?
) and the only ones to come out better for it will be the lawyers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hopefully the suit will be dismissed with a minimum of fuss and expense, and the guy can get the help he probably needs.This is the US legal system we're talking about here, which has never been very good at recognizing basic scientific truths.
Whatever happens, this guy's poor neighbor is going to go bankrupt trying to defend herself from this baseless lawsuit.
And when the case inevitably goes to appeal, the Telegraph Operators Industry Association will get on board to say that not only do cell phones and WIFI devices make people sick, they're stealing profits from all the hard-working telegraph operators of this country.
Suddenly it'll be a federal case which will take 10 years to work it's way to the Supreme Court and cost far more than the $500K this man is demanding.In all of this, you can be sure that no one is going to question this guy's reasons for trying to follow the American Dream (It's "Get Rich Quick!!
" isn't it?
) and the only ones to come out better for it will be the lawyers.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672828</id>
	<title>Re:Human interest filler story</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1269970320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad it's costing the defendant real money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad it 's costing the defendant real money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad it's costing the defendant real money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672814</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>JonStewartMill</author>
	<datestamp>1269970260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly. They often think twice before acting stupidly again. <br> <br>
If this was true there'd be no such thing as reality TV shows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly .
They often think twice before acting stupidly again .
If this was true there 'd be no such thing as reality TV shows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly.
They often think twice before acting stupidly again.
If this was true there'd be no such thing as reality TV shows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31677850</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1269944640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He doesn't need a Faraday cage at all.<br>Just some screen on one side of the house would do.<br>If it is only the house behind him then all he needs to do is block those emitters.<br>I wounder if there is money to be made...<br>Foldable Faraday Screens.</p><p>Decorator screens that have a conduction layer in them. You plug them into your out let so they are grounded and shield yourself from EM! "Yes just connect the center ground on the plug.<br>Put them around your bed for a restful nights sleep.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He does n't need a Faraday cage at all.Just some screen on one side of the house would do.If it is only the house behind him then all he needs to do is block those emitters.I wounder if there is money to be made...Foldable Faraday Screens.Decorator screens that have a conduction layer in them .
You plug them into your out let so they are grounded and shield yourself from EM !
" Yes just connect the center ground on the plug.Put them around your bed for a restful nights sleep .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He doesn't need a Faraday cage at all.Just some screen on one side of the house would do.If it is only the house behind him then all he needs to do is block those emitters.I wounder if there is money to be made...Foldable Faraday Screens.Decorator screens that have a conduction layer in them.
You plug them into your out let so they are grounded and shield yourself from EM!
"Yes just connect the center ground on the plug.Put them around your bed for a restful nights sleep.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670060</id>
	<title>the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Em Emalb</author>
	<datestamp>1269962160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the more they'll act like morons.</p><p>I wish reporters wouldn't give this type of crap the time of day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the more they 'll act like morons.I wish reporters would n't give this type of crap the time of day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the more they'll act like morons.I wish reporters wouldn't give this type of crap the time of day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670506</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>beelsebob</author>
	<datestamp>1269963540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are the dairies pouring the milk into your house and forcing you to drink it?</p><p>Not that I think this case has any merit, but your analogy doesn't match up &ndash; if this guys claims were actually true, then his neighbour would be actively doing something that was harming him, not just passively sitting there holding something that could harm him if it were used against him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are the dairies pouring the milk into your house and forcing you to drink it ? Not that I think this case has any merit , but your analogy does n't match up    if this guys claims were actually true , then his neighbour would be actively doing something that was harming him , not just passively sitting there holding something that could harm him if it were used against him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are the dairies pouring the milk into your house and forcing you to drink it?Not that I think this case has any merit, but your analogy doesn't match up – if this guys claims were actually true, then his neighbour would be actively doing something that was harming him, not just passively sitting there holding something that could harm him if it were used against him.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670232</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>eparker05</author>
	<datestamp>1269962640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"the more attention you give morons, the more they'll act like morons."</p><p>I disagree with your sentiment. If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly. They often think twice before acting stupidly again. What we need is more bad press for these types of people, like that town in Africa where everybody claimed to be getting sick from radio waves until they were told that the tower had been turned off two weeks prior. Also there is the guy who became violently ill only when cell phones rang (but not when they communicated with the cell tower silently). Yea. Lots of stupid people more need attention.</p><p>Scientology too... but that is another thread.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" the more attention you give morons , the more they 'll act like morons .
" I disagree with your sentiment .
If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly .
They often think twice before acting stupidly again .
What we need is more bad press for these types of people , like that town in Africa where everybody claimed to be getting sick from radio waves until they were told that the tower had been turned off two weeks prior .
Also there is the guy who became violently ill only when cell phones rang ( but not when they communicated with the cell tower silently ) .
Yea. Lots of stupid people more need attention.Scientology too... but that is another thread .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the more attention you give morons, the more they'll act like morons.
"I disagree with your sentiment.
If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly.
They often think twice before acting stupidly again.
What we need is more bad press for these types of people, like that town in Africa where everybody claimed to be getting sick from radio waves until they were told that the tower had been turned off two weeks prior.
Also there is the guy who became violently ill only when cell phones rang (but not when they communicated with the cell tower silently).
Yea. Lots of stupid people more need attention.Scientology too... but that is another thread.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671508</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269966540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the US: YOU CAN!!! Source: McDawnson vs Meredith, Supreme court of Illinois, 1975.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the US : YOU CAN ! ! !
Source : McDawnson vs Meredith , Supreme court of Illinois , 1975 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the US: YOU CAN!!!
Source: McDawnson vs Meredith, Supreme court of Illinois, 1975.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670176</id>
	<title>Oh yeah?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269962520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd love to see this guy prove his malady in court. Let's see the test results.</p><p>Isn't his claims merely a psychosis? These claims all sound like they're coming from attention whores who are looking to cash in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd love to see this guy prove his malady in court .
Let 's see the test results.Is n't his claims merely a psychosis ?
These claims all sound like they 're coming from attention whores who are looking to cash in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd love to see this guy prove his malady in court.
Let's see the test results.Isn't his claims merely a psychosis?
These claims all sound like they're coming from attention whores who are looking to cash in.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31677982</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>davidshewitt</author>
	<datestamp>1269945300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless</p></div><p>A Faraday cage will block <i>external</i> electromagnetic radiation.  It will not prevent it from escaping.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wirelessA Faraday cage will block external electromagnetic radiation .
It will not prevent it from escaping .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wirelessA Faraday cage will block external electromagnetic radiation.
It will not prevent it from escaping.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670106</id>
	<title>Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269962280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the guy's problem, not his neighbour's. If he's got a sensitivity to it, he should don a tinfoil hat and live inside a Faraday cage.</p><p>I developed lactose intolerance late in my life. Should I sue the makers of all my favourite foods because they can't accomodate me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the guy 's problem , not his neighbour 's .
If he 's got a sensitivity to it , he should don a tinfoil hat and live inside a Faraday cage.I developed lactose intolerance late in my life .
Should I sue the makers of all my favourite foods because they ca n't accomodate me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the guy's problem, not his neighbour's.
If he's got a sensitivity to it, he should don a tinfoil hat and live inside a Faraday cage.I developed lactose intolerance late in my life.
Should I sue the makers of all my favourite foods because they can't accomodate me?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31689266</id>
	<title>What will be next!?!?!?!</title>
	<author>ddraculdiablo</author>
	<datestamp>1270056840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whats next will I have to carry insulin because I may run into a diebetic that went into shock, or will I have to build wheelchair accibile ramps at my house. Maybe I'll have to write ym secnitnes sdrawkcab for the people who are dyslesic.

The point I'm making is that you can not expect people to change their lives because you have a disability. Personally I think he is full of *&amp;^\% but who knows this may be a real disability. If so there are things he can do to minimize or negate all signals into his house. A simple layer or two of alumimim foil will do as a start.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whats next will I have to carry insulin because I may run into a diebetic that went into shock , or will I have to build wheelchair accibile ramps at my house .
Maybe I 'll have to write ym secnitnes sdrawkcab for the people who are dyslesic .
The point I 'm making is that you can not expect people to change their lives because you have a disability .
Personally I think he is full of * &amp; ^ \ % but who knows this may be a real disability .
If so there are things he can do to minimize or negate all signals into his house .
A simple layer or two of alumimim foil will do as a start .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whats next will I have to carry insulin because I may run into a diebetic that went into shock, or will I have to build wheelchair accibile ramps at my house.
Maybe I'll have to write ym secnitnes sdrawkcab for the people who are dyslesic.
The point I'm making is that you can not expect people to change their lives because you have a disability.
Personally I think he is full of *&amp;^\% but who knows this may be a real disability.
If so there are things he can do to minimize or negate all signals into his house.
A simple layer or two of alumimim foil will do as a start.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671498</id>
	<title>Re:How to tell if he's a liar</title>
	<author>inigopete</author>
	<datestamp>1269966480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My father took part in a double-blind experiment similar to the one you describe four years ago. He didn't know whether the dish was on or not and reported no symptoms, adverse or otherwise.</p><p>Last year he had a tumour removed from his brain, the doctors estimated it had been growing for at least a couple of years.  He contacted the university group he'd volunteered for.  They looked up the research data.  Turns out he had been one of the individuals exposed to higher 2.4GHz radiation (the dish was switched on).</p><p>The result was statistically irrelevant to their findings but it's hard to shake a niggling anecdotal doubt in his mind, theirs, and mine, that maybe the research and the tumour were connected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My father took part in a double-blind experiment similar to the one you describe four years ago .
He did n't know whether the dish was on or not and reported no symptoms , adverse or otherwise.Last year he had a tumour removed from his brain , the doctors estimated it had been growing for at least a couple of years .
He contacted the university group he 'd volunteered for .
They looked up the research data .
Turns out he had been one of the individuals exposed to higher 2.4GHz radiation ( the dish was switched on ) .The result was statistically irrelevant to their findings but it 's hard to shake a niggling anecdotal doubt in his mind , theirs , and mine , that maybe the research and the tumour were connected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My father took part in a double-blind experiment similar to the one you describe four years ago.
He didn't know whether the dish was on or not and reported no symptoms, adverse or otherwise.Last year he had a tumour removed from his brain, the doctors estimated it had been growing for at least a couple of years.
He contacted the university group he'd volunteered for.
They looked up the research data.
Turns out he had been one of the individuals exposed to higher 2.4GHz radiation (the dish was switched on).The result was statistically irrelevant to their findings but it's hard to shake a niggling anecdotal doubt in his mind, theirs, and mine, that maybe the research and the tumour were connected.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671470</id>
	<title>Re:use UTP then</title>
	<author>dwillden</author>
	<datestamp>1269966420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But wireless is easier, and less intrusive to set up a dispersed network with.  This isn't a workspace designed with cable runs and conduit.  It's a home, so she could pay Electricians to come in and run cable all over the house inside the walls (with or without conduit), or she could have cables running all over the house.  Or she can do as she has and run one wi-fi router and all is good (except for one idiot of a neighbor).
<br> <br>Sure it's not as fast as UTP but it's a hell of a lot more convienient.  Even more so if she uses a laptop and likes to move around the house with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But wireless is easier , and less intrusive to set up a dispersed network with .
This is n't a workspace designed with cable runs and conduit .
It 's a home , so she could pay Electricians to come in and run cable all over the house inside the walls ( with or without conduit ) , or she could have cables running all over the house .
Or she can do as she has and run one wi-fi router and all is good ( except for one idiot of a neighbor ) .
Sure it 's not as fast as UTP but it 's a hell of a lot more convienient .
Even more so if she uses a laptop and likes to move around the house with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But wireless is easier, and less intrusive to set up a dispersed network with.
This isn't a workspace designed with cable runs and conduit.
It's a home, so she could pay Electricians to come in and run cable all over the house inside the walls (with or without conduit), or she could have cables running all over the house.
Or she can do as she has and run one wi-fi router and all is good (except for one idiot of a neighbor).
Sure it's not as fast as UTP but it's a hell of a lot more convienient.
Even more so if she uses a laptop and likes to move around the house with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31680434</id>
	<title>Re:Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1269956040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Ok, so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all. But really? Running a router is now a basic human right? A little melodramatic don't you think?</p></div></blockquote><p>

No, being able to live in your own home, unharassed is a basic human right. If I have an pollen allergy all I can do is filter the pollen out of my own house or wear a mask both at my own expense, I cannot force all my neighbours to remove all flowering plants and pave over the area with concrete.<br> <br>

Of course pollen allergies can be proven with proper scientific testing as well as empirical observation (sneezing is kind of obvious).<br> <br>

So it's not about the WiFi per se, it's about her neighbours actions.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all .
But really ?
Running a router is now a basic human right ?
A little melodramatic do n't you think ?
No , being able to live in your own home , unharassed is a basic human right .
If I have an pollen allergy all I can do is filter the pollen out of my own house or wear a mask both at my own expense , I can not force all my neighbours to remove all flowering plants and pave over the area with concrete .
Of course pollen allergies can be proven with proper scientific testing as well as empirical observation ( sneezing is kind of obvious ) .
So it 's not about the WiFi per se , it 's about her neighbours actions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all.
But really?
Running a router is now a basic human right?
A little melodramatic don't you think?
No, being able to live in your own home, unharassed is a basic human right.
If I have an pollen allergy all I can do is filter the pollen out of my own house or wear a mask both at my own expense, I cannot force all my neighbours to remove all flowering plants and pave over the area with concrete.
Of course pollen allergies can be proven with proper scientific testing as well as empirical observation (sneezing is kind of obvious).
So it's not about the WiFi per se, it's about her neighbours actions.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671518</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>hattig</author>
	<datestamp>1269966540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not the telco's base station at 70m.</p><p>Maybe one of your neighbours is building a nuclear bomb or something. Or someone has set up a Mosquito because of teenage louts in the area. Or a whole horde of other reasons, sick building syndrome, chemicals, flickering and/or dim lights, the dreary paintwork where you live, your worthless life coming home to cheetos and xbox every night, etc, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not the telco 's base station at 70m.Maybe one of your neighbours is building a nuclear bomb or something .
Or someone has set up a Mosquito because of teenage louts in the area .
Or a whole horde of other reasons , sick building syndrome , chemicals , flickering and/or dim lights , the dreary paintwork where you live , your worthless life coming home to cheetos and xbox every night , etc , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not the telco's base station at 70m.Maybe one of your neighbours is building a nuclear bomb or something.
Or someone has set up a Mosquito because of teenage louts in the area.
Or a whole horde of other reasons, sick building syndrome, chemicals, flickering and/or dim lights, the dreary paintwork where you live, your worthless life coming home to cheetos and xbox every night, etc, etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31676380</id>
	<title>Re:How to tell if he's a liar</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1269939900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The result was statistically irrelevant to their findings but it's hard to shake a niggling anecdotal doubt in his mind, theirs, and mine, that maybe the research and the tumour were connected.</p></div><p>Well, better get shakin', because they're not related.</p><p>Look: Humans are naturally bad at these kinds of analyses because of our over-active pattern detectors.  You're seeing a pattern that isn't there. Step back, make that realization, and you're free.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The result was statistically irrelevant to their findings but it 's hard to shake a niggling anecdotal doubt in his mind , theirs , and mine , that maybe the research and the tumour were connected.Well , better get shakin ' , because they 're not related.Look : Humans are naturally bad at these kinds of analyses because of our over-active pattern detectors .
You 're seeing a pattern that is n't there .
Step back , make that realization , and you 're free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The result was statistically irrelevant to their findings but it's hard to shake a niggling anecdotal doubt in his mind, theirs, and mine, that maybe the research and the tumour were connected.Well, better get shakin', because they're not related.Look: Humans are naturally bad at these kinds of analyses because of our over-active pattern detectors.
You're seeing a pattern that isn't there.
Step back, make that realization, and you're free.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670126</id>
	<title>Onus is on you...</title>
	<author>rotide</author>
	<datestamp>1269962340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Onus is on you buddy...  Good luck proving that one..  Enjoy those bills too, by the way!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Onus is on you buddy... Good luck proving that one.. Enjoy those bills too , by the way !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Onus is on you buddy...  Good luck proving that one..  Enjoy those bills too, by the way!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31679150</id>
	<title>Made you do what on the floor?</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1269950460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This story is on a collision course with another <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/03/30/1352216" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">recent slashdot story</a> [slashdot.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This story is on a collision course with another recent slashdot story [ slashdot.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This story is on a collision course with another recent slashdot story [slashdot.org].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671412</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>dave420</author>
	<datestamp>1269966300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are making a lot of claims with no evidence backing them up.  "Victim", "headaches from a", "made me sick".  A psychosomatic condition doesn't require the laws of physics to be rewritten, and is a far sight more likely than your alleged sensitivity.  Talk to James Randi about it, and he'll kick you a million bucks if you can prove you are right.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are making a lot of claims with no evidence backing them up .
" Victim " , " headaches from a " , " made me sick " .
A psychosomatic condition does n't require the laws of physics to be rewritten , and is a far sight more likely than your alleged sensitivity .
Talk to James Randi about it , and he 'll kick you a million bucks if you can prove you are right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are making a lot of claims with no evidence backing them up.
"Victim", "headaches from a", "made me sick".
A psychosomatic condition doesn't require the laws of physics to be rewritten, and is a far sight more likely than your alleged sensitivity.
Talk to James Randi about it, and he'll kick you a million bucks if you can prove you are right.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31678206</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269946320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dihydrogen oxide vapour, then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dihydrogen oxide vapour , then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dihydrogen oxide vapour, then.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31687016</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>GundamFan</author>
	<datestamp>1270047780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You should be able to sue for the damages to your house and what you spent to have the tree trimmed back. A judge may also grant an injunction against your neighbor to keep plants from growing onto your property (technically this is how property works but people need reminding sometimes).

However you neighbor could sue you for damaging her tree or at least modifying it without here permission.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You should be able to sue for the damages to your house and what you spent to have the tree trimmed back .
A judge may also grant an injunction against your neighbor to keep plants from growing onto your property ( technically this is how property works but people need reminding sometimes ) .
However you neighbor could sue you for damaging her tree or at least modifying it without here permission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should be able to sue for the damages to your house and what you spent to have the tree trimmed back.
A judge may also grant an injunction against your neighbor to keep plants from growing onto your property (technically this is how property works but people need reminding sometimes).
However you neighbor could sue you for damaging her tree or at least modifying it without here permission.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670930</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269964920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...when you are the victim. Don't know for an Wireless AP but I go real headaches from a telco's base station. It was as close as 70 meters from my appartment and although it was 4 storeys higher than my home it still made me sick. And the most interesting part: while climbing the stairs to my appartment going through the floors when I was getting near my floor the nasty sensation was setting off. So the guy may be in his right. All he did was to buy a house and then waited till somebody started making him sick. Why don't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless?</p></div><p>Where's the control in your experiment?  How do you know that it was the tower and not, say, the ultrasonic pest repellent devices that your landlord had installed on your floor?  Or any of a half dozen frequently used but kind of nasty chemicals that are routinely found in apartment buildings?  Or the flickering old-style fluorescent lights?  Frankly, the fact that the sensation wasn't worse OUTSIDE when the building isn't shielding you from what sounds like line-of-sight irradiation makes me dubious that the source of your headaches have been properly isolated.</p><p>Or, you're trolling, and I fell for it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...when you are the victim .
Do n't know for an Wireless AP but I go real headaches from a telco 's base station .
It was as close as 70 meters from my appartment and although it was 4 storeys higher than my home it still made me sick .
And the most interesting part : while climbing the stairs to my appartment going through the floors when I was getting near my floor the nasty sensation was setting off .
So the guy may be in his right .
All he did was to buy a house and then waited till somebody started making him sick .
Why do n't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless ? Where 's the control in your experiment ?
How do you know that it was the tower and not , say , the ultrasonic pest repellent devices that your landlord had installed on your floor ?
Or any of a half dozen frequently used but kind of nasty chemicals that are routinely found in apartment buildings ?
Or the flickering old-style fluorescent lights ?
Frankly , the fact that the sensation was n't worse OUTSIDE when the building is n't shielding you from what sounds like line-of-sight irradiation makes me dubious that the source of your headaches have been properly isolated.Or , you 're trolling , and I fell for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...when you are the victim.
Don't know for an Wireless AP but I go real headaches from a telco's base station.
It was as close as 70 meters from my appartment and although it was 4 storeys higher than my home it still made me sick.
And the most interesting part: while climbing the stairs to my appartment going through the floors when I was getting near my floor the nasty sensation was setting off.
So the guy may be in his right.
All he did was to buy a house and then waited till somebody started making him sick.
Why don't you look from the other side - make the lady put her house in a Faraday cage if she insist on her wireless?Where's the control in your experiment?
How do you know that it was the tower and not, say, the ultrasonic pest repellent devices that your landlord had installed on your floor?
Or any of a half dozen frequently used but kind of nasty chemicals that are routinely found in apartment buildings?
Or the flickering old-style fluorescent lights?
Frankly, the fact that the sensation wasn't worse OUTSIDE when the building isn't shielding you from what sounds like line-of-sight irradiation makes me dubious that the source of your headaches have been properly isolated.Or, you're trolling, and I fell for it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673092</id>
	<title>Turnabout is fair play</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269971160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Man Sues Neighbor Claiming Wi-Fi Made Him Sick</p></div><p>Tomorrow: Slashdot User Sues Man Claiming Lawsuit Makes Him Sick</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Man Sues Neighbor Claiming Wi-Fi Made Him SickTomorrow : Slashdot User Sues Man Claiming Lawsuit Makes Him Sick</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man Sues Neighbor Claiming Wi-Fi Made Him SickTomorrow: Slashdot User Sues Man Claiming Lawsuit Makes Him Sick
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670420</id>
	<title>How to tell if he's a liar</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1269963300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>1) Mount a satellite dish on the wall of a long room.<br>2) Place a chair at the opposite end of the room.<br>3) Have this guy sit in the chair for an hour.<br>4) See how much he complains about headaches, how much he acts up, how he has been brain-poisoned etc.<br>5) <b>Show him that the dish is not connected to anything, and never has been.</b> <br> <br>If he doesn't react, affix it to a signal generator and see how he performs in an actual scientifically conducted test. But do it my way first, then make it into an amusing video montage so everyone knows how much of a tool he is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Mount a satellite dish on the wall of a long room.2 ) Place a chair at the opposite end of the room.3 ) Have this guy sit in the chair for an hour.4 ) See how much he complains about headaches , how much he acts up , how he has been brain-poisoned etc.5 ) Show him that the dish is not connected to anything , and never has been .
If he does n't react , affix it to a signal generator and see how he performs in an actual scientifically conducted test .
But do it my way first , then make it into an amusing video montage so everyone knows how much of a tool he is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Mount a satellite dish on the wall of a long room.2) Place a chair at the opposite end of the room.3) Have this guy sit in the chair for an hour.4) See how much he complains about headaches, how much he acts up, how he has been brain-poisoned etc.5) Show him that the dish is not connected to anything, and never has been.
If he doesn't react, affix it to a signal generator and see how he performs in an actual scientifically conducted test.
But do it my way first, then make it into an amusing video montage so everyone knows how much of a tool he is.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671146</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>hattig</author>
	<datestamp>1269965520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe you can buy paint that shields from such signals. <a href="http://www.out-law.com/page-7953" title="out-law.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.out-law.com/page-7953</a> [out-law.com]</p><p>Maybe because of his very rare medical condition he could put a claim in on his medical insurance (or the local government's social care services) to get his place proofed against such evil electro-magnetic waves.</p><p>Or he could just get up off his arse and do it himself. Surely the peace of mind that having such paint would give would be enough?</p><p>Oh, he'd probably complain about losing his mobile phone signal... o\_O</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe you can buy paint that shields from such signals .
http : //www.out-law.com/page-7953 [ out-law.com ] Maybe because of his very rare medical condition he could put a claim in on his medical insurance ( or the local government 's social care services ) to get his place proofed against such evil electro-magnetic waves.Or he could just get up off his arse and do it himself .
Surely the peace of mind that having such paint would give would be enough ? Oh , he 'd probably complain about losing his mobile phone signal... o \ _O</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe you can buy paint that shields from such signals.
http://www.out-law.com/page-7953 [out-law.com]Maybe because of his very rare medical condition he could put a claim in on his medical insurance (or the local government's social care services) to get his place proofed against such evil electro-magnetic waves.Or he could just get up off his arse and do it himself.
Surely the peace of mind that having such paint would give would be enough?Oh, he'd probably complain about losing his mobile phone signal... o\_O</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31681198</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Kitkoan</author>
	<datestamp>1269959940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"the more attention you give morons, the more they'll act like morons."</p><p>I disagree with your sentiment. If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly. They often think twice before acting stupidly again.</p></div><p>May I introduce you to <a href="http://slashdot.org/tag/jackthompson" title="slashdot.org">Mr Jack Thompson?</a> [slashdot.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" the more attention you give morons , the more they 'll act like morons .
" I disagree with your sentiment .
If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly .
They often think twice before acting stupidly again.May I introduce you to Mr Jack Thompson ?
[ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the more attention you give morons, the more they'll act like morons.
"I disagree with your sentiment.
If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly.
They often think twice before acting stupidly again.May I introduce you to Mr Jack Thompson?
[slashdot.org]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670908</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>arose</author>
	<datestamp>1269964800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about <em>you</em> put in a pla^HFaraday cage in your house instead?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about you put in a pla ^ HFaraday cage in your house instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about you put in a pla^HFaraday cage in your house instead?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673862</id>
	<title>Re:use UTP then</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1269973680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As if it was so extremely difficult to use UTP cables... Maybe his neighbor really have physical problems, maybe only he think it. Good neighborhood worth such small thing. And UTP is safer, more reliable and faster. But no, they visit the court instead.</p></div><p>UTP isn't going to fix anything.</p><p>From the article:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>But last October, when a friend of his rented a house on the next block that backed up to Firstenberg's property, the familiar waves of nausea, vertigo, body aches, dizziness, heart arrhythmia and insomnia returned -- all, he says, because she was using an iPhone, a laptop computer, a wireless router and dimmer switches.</p></div><p>So, you're going to plug your iPhone in with UTP?  You're going to run your dimmer switches off UTP?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As if it was so extremely difficult to use UTP cables... Maybe his neighbor really have physical problems , maybe only he think it .
Good neighborhood worth such small thing .
And UTP is safer , more reliable and faster .
But no , they visit the court instead.UTP is n't going to fix anything.From the article : But last October , when a friend of his rented a house on the next block that backed up to Firstenberg 's property , the familiar waves of nausea , vertigo , body aches , dizziness , heart arrhythmia and insomnia returned -- all , he says , because she was using an iPhone , a laptop computer , a wireless router and dimmer switches.So , you 're going to plug your iPhone in with UTP ?
You 're going to run your dimmer switches off UTP ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As if it was so extremely difficult to use UTP cables... Maybe his neighbor really have physical problems, maybe only he think it.
Good neighborhood worth such small thing.
And UTP is safer, more reliable and faster.
But no, they visit the court instead.UTP isn't going to fix anything.From the article:But last October, when a friend of his rented a house on the next block that backed up to Firstenberg's property, the familiar waves of nausea, vertigo, body aches, dizziness, heart arrhythmia and insomnia returned -- all, he says, because she was using an iPhone, a laptop computer, a wireless router and dimmer switches.So, you're going to plug your iPhone in with UTP?
You're going to run your dimmer switches off UTP?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672030</id>
	<title>Re:Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>muridae</author>
	<datestamp>1269967860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, fair enough, but to play devil's advocate for a second here, what if it was really making him sick (it isn't)? Clearly you can't claim to be able to do whatever you want within the confines of your own house if it makes the guy next door sick?</p></div><p>Depends on what it is you are doing, and if your actions are otherwise legal. The FCC has said you are allowed to broadcast these wireless signals, I think that will trump a doctor saying that symptoms might be real. Now, if you were piping something known to be hazardous, say gamma radiation, because you were not following known safety guidelines, then the neighbors would have some ground to stand on.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Also, if I was your neighbor and, according to your argument, I can do whatever I want within the confines of my house, you won't mind if I play loud rock music at 2 AM in the morning every day? I think your right to a good nights sleep in your own home should trump by right to rock out at an unsocialable hour.</p></div><p>I, personally, would not mind as I am awake at 2AM most days. However, the existing town ordinance establishing a noise curfew might cause the police to take issue. Your repeated violation of that ordinance, with documents showing that the police had been there to shut you down multiple times, might give the cranky old lady across the way the legal ground to get a lawsuit past preliminary hearings and maybe even enough to win a suit against you. And if you decide to play it at 2PM, but even louder, you might run afoul of those safety laws for safe decibel levels.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , fair enough , but to play devil 's advocate for a second here , what if it was really making him sick ( it is n't ) ?
Clearly you ca n't claim to be able to do whatever you want within the confines of your own house if it makes the guy next door sick ? Depends on what it is you are doing , and if your actions are otherwise legal .
The FCC has said you are allowed to broadcast these wireless signals , I think that will trump a doctor saying that symptoms might be real .
Now , if you were piping something known to be hazardous , say gamma radiation , because you were not following known safety guidelines , then the neighbors would have some ground to stand on.Also , if I was your neighbor and , according to your argument , I can do whatever I want within the confines of my house , you wo n't mind if I play loud rock music at 2 AM in the morning every day ?
I think your right to a good nights sleep in your own home should trump by right to rock out at an unsocialable hour.I , personally , would not mind as I am awake at 2AM most days .
However , the existing town ordinance establishing a noise curfew might cause the police to take issue .
Your repeated violation of that ordinance , with documents showing that the police had been there to shut you down multiple times , might give the cranky old lady across the way the legal ground to get a lawsuit past preliminary hearings and maybe even enough to win a suit against you .
And if you decide to play it at 2PM , but even louder , you might run afoul of those safety laws for safe decibel levels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, fair enough, but to play devil's advocate for a second here, what if it was really making him sick (it isn't)?
Clearly you can't claim to be able to do whatever you want within the confines of your own house if it makes the guy next door sick?Depends on what it is you are doing, and if your actions are otherwise legal.
The FCC has said you are allowed to broadcast these wireless signals, I think that will trump a doctor saying that symptoms might be real.
Now, if you were piping something known to be hazardous, say gamma radiation, because you were not following known safety guidelines, then the neighbors would have some ground to stand on.Also, if I was your neighbor and, according to your argument, I can do whatever I want within the confines of my house, you won't mind if I play loud rock music at 2 AM in the morning every day?
I think your right to a good nights sleep in your own home should trump by right to rock out at an unsocialable hour.I, personally, would not mind as I am awake at 2AM most days.
However, the existing town ordinance establishing a noise curfew might cause the police to take issue.
Your repeated violation of that ordinance, with documents showing that the police had been there to shut you down multiple times, might give the cranky old lady across the way the legal ground to get a lawsuit past preliminary hearings and maybe even enough to win a suit against you.
And if you decide to play it at 2PM, but even louder, you might run afoul of those safety laws for safe decibel levels.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670700</id>
	<title>Re:I think I have a solution</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1269964140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And have a gold plated interior. And a little bit left over for hookers and blow.</p></div><p>In fact, forget the gold plated interior!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And have a gold plated interior .
And a little bit left over for hookers and blow.In fact , forget the gold plated interior !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And have a gold plated interior.
And a little bit left over for hookers and blow.In fact, forget the gold plated interior!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673450</id>
	<title>If he comitts suicide...</title>
	<author>tekrat</author>
	<datestamp>1269972300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then the neighbor will go to jail for cyberbullying him with RF. And be charged with statatory rape, and be hounded by the IRS. I think America has gone certifiably bat-shit insane. It's too bad you can't lock up a whole country. Call me when ya'll learn to deal with life and become mature adults.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then the neighbor will go to jail for cyberbullying him with RF .
And be charged with statatory rape , and be hounded by the IRS .
I think America has gone certifiably bat-shit insane .
It 's too bad you ca n't lock up a whole country .
Call me when ya 'll learn to deal with life and become mature adults .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then the neighbor will go to jail for cyberbullying him with RF.
And be charged with statatory rape, and be hounded by the IRS.
I think America has gone certifiably bat-shit insane.
It's too bad you can't lock up a whole country.
Call me when ya'll learn to deal with life and become mature adults.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671156</id>
	<title>Re:She's an idiot...</title>
	<author>Tim C</author>
	<datestamp>1269965520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>She has a basic human right to act as she pleases in her own home as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. Unless this guy can prove that her actions are adversely and unreasonably affecting him, he is indeed attacking her liberty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>She has a basic human right to act as she pleases in her own home as long as it does n't affect anyone else .
Unless this guy can prove that her actions are adversely and unreasonably affecting him , he is indeed attacking her liberty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>She has a basic human right to act as she pleases in her own home as long as it doesn't affect anyone else.
Unless this guy can prove that her actions are adversely and unreasonably affecting him, he is indeed attacking her liberty.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31688742</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1270054560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Also there is the guy who became violently ill only when cell phones rang (but not when they communicated with the cell tower silently).</p></div></blockquote><p>Although I believe the transmission power of cell phones too low to affect us, cell phones use far less energy when not on a call.</p><p>The guy sounds like a typical psychosomatic.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also there is the guy who became violently ill only when cell phones rang ( but not when they communicated with the cell tower silently ) .Although I believe the transmission power of cell phones too low to affect us , cell phones use far less energy when not on a call.The guy sounds like a typical psychosomatic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also there is the guy who became violently ill only when cell phones rang (but not when they communicated with the cell tower silently).Although I believe the transmission power of cell phones too low to affect us, cell phones use far less energy when not on a call.The guy sounds like a typical psychosomatic.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672318</id>
	<title>Streisand Radiation Effect</title>
	<author>SEWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1269968760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>in response to e-mailed questions</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
The neighbor's lawsuit has caused an increase in electromagnetic radiation.  Oops.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>in response to e-mailed questions The neighbor 's lawsuit has caused an increase in electromagnetic radiation .
Oops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in response to e-mailed questions

The neighbor's lawsuit has caused an increase in electromagnetic radiation.
Oops.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674448</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>Akaihiryuu</author>
	<datestamp>1269975660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, that won't work either.  The crust has lots of naturally occurring radioactive material in it.  The deeper you go, the more stuff you find.  A lot of the interior of the planet is kept warm by radioactive decay.  And this is the ionizing stuff, not just EM.  Plus, don't forget things like cosmic rays and neutrinos that can penetrate a great deal of solid matter.  He also better not have ANY light sources whatsoever in this house.  If he has so much as a light bulb then what he is claiming is false.  Visible light is even higher frequency than his horrible 2.6 GHz wifi.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , that wo n't work either .
The crust has lots of naturally occurring radioactive material in it .
The deeper you go , the more stuff you find .
A lot of the interior of the planet is kept warm by radioactive decay .
And this is the ionizing stuff , not just EM .
Plus , do n't forget things like cosmic rays and neutrinos that can penetrate a great deal of solid matter .
He also better not have ANY light sources whatsoever in this house .
If he has so much as a light bulb then what he is claiming is false .
Visible light is even higher frequency than his horrible 2.6 GHz wifi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, that won't work either.
The crust has lots of naturally occurring radioactive material in it.
The deeper you go, the more stuff you find.
A lot of the interior of the planet is kept warm by radioactive decay.
And this is the ionizing stuff, not just EM.
Plus, don't forget things like cosmic rays and neutrinos that can penetrate a great deal of solid matter.
He also better not have ANY light sources whatsoever in this house.
If he has so much as a light bulb then what he is claiming is false.
Visible light is even higher frequency than his horrible 2.6 GHz wifi.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672284</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>Androclese</author>
	<datestamp>1269968640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But what about the Cosmic Rays?  You can't avoid those anywhere!</htmltext>
<tokenext>But what about the Cosmic Rays ?
You ca n't avoid those anywhere !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what about the Cosmic Rays?
You can't avoid those anywhere!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670724</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269964200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I heard the Space Station has a man cave now.  Maybe that'll do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard the Space Station has a man cave now .
Maybe that 'll do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard the Space Station has a man cave now.
Maybe that'll do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670816</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>Courageous</author>
	<datestamp>1269964500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, you CAN sue your neighbor when their cherry tree blooms and sets off your allergies. Really, the deterrence for doing this should be more firm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , you CAN sue your neighbor when their cherry tree blooms and sets off your allergies .
Really , the deterrence for doing this should be more firm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, you CAN sue your neighbor when their cherry tree blooms and sets off your allergies.
Really, the deterrence for doing this should be more firm.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672772</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>mindbrane</author>
	<datestamp>1269970140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>2. Many people do feed off of the negative attention.</p></div><p>Isn't attention a necessary condition of any complex and social life form? Theories of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosis" title="wikipedia.org">apoptosis</a> [wikipedia.org] suggests cells in complex life forms commit programmed death when they lack necessary communication from other cells. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory\_of\_mind" title="wikipedia.org">Theory of Mind</a> [wikipedia.org] suggests, at least in some interpretations, that an infantile state can be characterized as an inability to "...attribute mental states--beliefs, intents, desires, pretending, knowledge, etc.--to oneself and others and to understand that others have beliefs, desires and intentions that are different from one's own."</p><p>Looking at both attention and Theory of Mind I think attention is fundamental and necessary whether it's positive or negative. Fucked up people may seek negative attention desperately as a substitute for social confirmation and self confirmation and/or as a cloaked call for help.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 .
Many people do feed off of the negative attention.Is n't attention a necessary condition of any complex and social life form ?
Theories of apoptosis [ wikipedia.org ] suggests cells in complex life forms commit programmed death when they lack necessary communication from other cells .
Theory of Mind [ wikipedia.org ] suggests , at least in some interpretations , that an infantile state can be characterized as an inability to " ...attribute mental states--beliefs , intents , desires , pretending , knowledge , etc.--to oneself and others and to understand that others have beliefs , desires and intentions that are different from one 's own .
" Looking at both attention and Theory of Mind I think attention is fundamental and necessary whether it 's positive or negative .
Fucked up people may seek negative attention desperately as a substitute for social confirmation and self confirmation and/or as a cloaked call for help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2.
Many people do feed off of the negative attention.Isn't attention a necessary condition of any complex and social life form?
Theories of apoptosis [wikipedia.org] suggests cells in complex life forms commit programmed death when they lack necessary communication from other cells.
Theory of Mind [wikipedia.org] suggests, at least in some interpretations, that an infantile state can be characterized as an inability to "...attribute mental states--beliefs, intents, desires, pretending, knowledge, etc.--to oneself and others and to understand that others have beliefs, desires and intentions that are different from one's own.
"Looking at both attention and Theory of Mind I think attention is fundamental and necessary whether it's positive or negative.
Fucked up people may seek negative attention desperately as a substitute for social confirmation and self confirmation and/or as a cloaked call for help.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670190</id>
	<title>So presumably a lawyer took this case</title>
	<author>Labcoat Samurai</author>
	<datestamp>1269962580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is the irritating thing about it.  You can harass people with frivolous lawsuits, and, while the judge may throw them out, the lawyers still get paid.  Provided the guy's lawyer asks for his fee up front, what is his disincentive to file lawsuits like this one?  I really wish lawyers could receive some sort of punishment or censure for wasting the court's time and enabling harassment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the irritating thing about it .
You can harass people with frivolous lawsuits , and , while the judge may throw them out , the lawyers still get paid .
Provided the guy 's lawyer asks for his fee up front , what is his disincentive to file lawsuits like this one ?
I really wish lawyers could receive some sort of punishment or censure for wasting the court 's time and enabling harassment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the irritating thing about it.
You can harass people with frivolous lawsuits, and, while the judge may throw them out, the lawyers still get paid.
Provided the guy's lawyer asks for his fee up front, what is his disincentive to file lawsuits like this one?
I really wish lawyers could receive some sort of punishment or censure for wasting the court's time and enabling harassment.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670748</id>
	<title>Nothing stopping him from moving</title>
	<author>kgroombr</author>
	<datestamp>1269964260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If a person has an issue with his neighbors, it isn't a problem with the neighbors, it is that person.  Easy fix....... get up a move away.  I know a cave in the mountains that would fit this guy nicely.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If a person has an issue with his neighbors , it is n't a problem with the neighbors , it is that person .
Easy fix....... get up a move away .
I know a cave in the mountains that would fit this guy nicely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If a person has an issue with his neighbors, it isn't a problem with the neighbors, it is that person.
Easy fix....... get up a move away.
I know a cave in the mountains that would fit this guy nicely.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31678652</id>
	<title>There are actual Reports that EMF causes nerve dmg</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269948120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I distinctly remember over the past month on American Voice Radio ( <a href="http://americanvoiceradio.com/" title="americanvoiceradio.com" rel="nofollow">http://americanvoiceradio.com/</a> [americanvoiceradio.com] ) during Doc Mike Witort's show Wake Up Well ( <a href="http://wakeupwell.org/" title="wakeupwell.org" rel="nofollow">http://wakeupwell.org/</a> [wakeupwell.org] ), about a jail guard in Texas that had been getting all kinds of sickly Immune System disorders that graduated to Nerve Damage. This man was a career Jail Guard for over 30 years, being around 50 years-old to this day.  Upon doing some investigation about his environment, he found much more than what he expected.  A line of jail cells at the prison were reserved for inmates in bad behaviour, a couple rows of solitary confinement areas.  All the inmates put in these cells eventually became deathly ill within 4 months, and those of them that spent an accumulative of over 1 year in any of these solitary-confinment cells are either dead or dying of cancers with mental-illness.  The same symptoms this career jail guard has been suffering from, but not as quick because his shift rotated often-enough away from this cell block.  What he discovered was that just 2-feet outside the solitary-confinement walls there were power lines and communications lines.  He went to some kind of ham radio or hobby store to inquire on equipment that could measure any EMF in the area, and what he discovered is much worse than just the measurements.  All the inmates placed in these cells had been done so for political reasons and not necessarily behavioral disorder.  Consistent with a corrupt warden, the administration was intentionally sending the politically active court gurus into these solitary-confinement cells for periods of time necessary to kill them, and there is an on-going investigation about the premise that administration has been aware of the deaths associated with these chambers far long enough that they intended to continue putting non-violent inmates into these cells with the dirty secret that they will be slowly microwaved by the power and communications lines just a couple feet parallel to the wall.</p><p>So cook me up another batch of your "EMF doesn't cause harm" bullshit, because there is a lot more on the line for felons running jails and prisons using techniques to sedate or punish inmates reminiscent of a Nazi Concentration Camp while charging rent to the Federal or State Governments on average of $40k per year for each inmate and upto $150k for the one's on nasty medications.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I distinctly remember over the past month on American Voice Radio ( http : //americanvoiceradio.com/ [ americanvoiceradio.com ] ) during Doc Mike Witort 's show Wake Up Well ( http : //wakeupwell.org/ [ wakeupwell.org ] ) , about a jail guard in Texas that had been getting all kinds of sickly Immune System disorders that graduated to Nerve Damage .
This man was a career Jail Guard for over 30 years , being around 50 years-old to this day .
Upon doing some investigation about his environment , he found much more than what he expected .
A line of jail cells at the prison were reserved for inmates in bad behaviour , a couple rows of solitary confinement areas .
All the inmates put in these cells eventually became deathly ill within 4 months , and those of them that spent an accumulative of over 1 year in any of these solitary-confinment cells are either dead or dying of cancers with mental-illness .
The same symptoms this career jail guard has been suffering from , but not as quick because his shift rotated often-enough away from this cell block .
What he discovered was that just 2-feet outside the solitary-confinement walls there were power lines and communications lines .
He went to some kind of ham radio or hobby store to inquire on equipment that could measure any EMF in the area , and what he discovered is much worse than just the measurements .
All the inmates placed in these cells had been done so for political reasons and not necessarily behavioral disorder .
Consistent with a corrupt warden , the administration was intentionally sending the politically active court gurus into these solitary-confinement cells for periods of time necessary to kill them , and there is an on-going investigation about the premise that administration has been aware of the deaths associated with these chambers far long enough that they intended to continue putting non-violent inmates into these cells with the dirty secret that they will be slowly microwaved by the power and communications lines just a couple feet parallel to the wall.So cook me up another batch of your " EMF does n't cause harm " bullshit , because there is a lot more on the line for felons running jails and prisons using techniques to sedate or punish inmates reminiscent of a Nazi Concentration Camp while charging rent to the Federal or State Governments on average of $ 40k per year for each inmate and upto $ 150k for the one 's on nasty medications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I distinctly remember over the past month on American Voice Radio ( http://americanvoiceradio.com/ [americanvoiceradio.com] ) during Doc Mike Witort's show Wake Up Well ( http://wakeupwell.org/ [wakeupwell.org] ), about a jail guard in Texas that had been getting all kinds of sickly Immune System disorders that graduated to Nerve Damage.
This man was a career Jail Guard for over 30 years, being around 50 years-old to this day.
Upon doing some investigation about his environment, he found much more than what he expected.
A line of jail cells at the prison were reserved for inmates in bad behaviour, a couple rows of solitary confinement areas.
All the inmates put in these cells eventually became deathly ill within 4 months, and those of them that spent an accumulative of over 1 year in any of these solitary-confinment cells are either dead or dying of cancers with mental-illness.
The same symptoms this career jail guard has been suffering from, but not as quick because his shift rotated often-enough away from this cell block.
What he discovered was that just 2-feet outside the solitary-confinement walls there were power lines and communications lines.
He went to some kind of ham radio or hobby store to inquire on equipment that could measure any EMF in the area, and what he discovered is much worse than just the measurements.
All the inmates placed in these cells had been done so for political reasons and not necessarily behavioral disorder.
Consistent with a corrupt warden, the administration was intentionally sending the politically active court gurus into these solitary-confinement cells for periods of time necessary to kill them, and there is an on-going investigation about the premise that administration has been aware of the deaths associated with these chambers far long enough that they intended to continue putting non-violent inmates into these cells with the dirty secret that they will be slowly microwaved by the power and communications lines just a couple feet parallel to the wall.So cook me up another batch of your "EMF doesn't cause harm" bullshit, because there is a lot more on the line for felons running jails and prisons using techniques to sedate or punish inmates reminiscent of a Nazi Concentration Camp while charging rent to the Federal or State Governments on average of $40k per year for each inmate and upto $150k for the one's on nasty medications.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670790</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>JohnnyGTO</author>
	<datestamp>1269964380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>These people don't get embarrassed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>These people do n't get embarrassed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These people don't get embarrassed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31684826</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1270031700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that imply's they understand they're acting stupidly, they're morons remember, hence they just don't get it until the judge kicks the case out.(fingers crossed)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that imply 's they understand they 're acting stupidly , they 're morons remember , hence they just do n't get it until the judge kicks the case out .
( fingers crossed )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that imply's they understand they're acting stupidly, they're morons remember, hence they just don't get it until the judge kicks the case out.
(fingers crossed)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670238</id>
	<title>She should have turned-off the devices</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269962700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...without telling the Moron, and then let the moron keep insisting "your wireless makes me sick".  It would be funny.  Especially in court.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...without telling the Moron , and then let the moron keep insisting " your wireless makes me sick " .
It would be funny .
Especially in court .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...without telling the Moron, and then let the moron keep insisting "your wireless makes me sick".
It would be funny.
Especially in court.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671388</id>
	<title>Re:Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>timholman</author>
	<datestamp>1269966240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Ok, so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all. But really? Running a router is now a basic human right? A little melodramatic don't you think?</p></div></blockquote><p>On the contrary, the right in question is one of the most fundamental rights humans cherish - the right to be <i>left alone</i> and not be harassed by people who try to force you to live the way <i>they</i> do.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all .
But really ?
Running a router is now a basic human right ?
A little melodramatic do n't you think ? On the contrary , the right in question is one of the most fundamental rights humans cherish - the right to be left alone and not be harassed by people who try to force you to live the way they do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all.
But really?
Running a router is now a basic human right?
A little melodramatic don't you think?On the contrary, the right in question is one of the most fundamental rights humans cherish - the right to be left alone and not be harassed by people who try to force you to live the way they do.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670972</id>
	<title>Old News</title>
	<author>Scotland Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1269965040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Didn't this same Firstenberg guy <a href="http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/01/12/1743241" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">ALREADY DO THIS</a> [slashdot.org] to another neighbor back in January?<br> <br>Why is anyone even paying attention to him and his absurd claims?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't this same Firstenberg guy ALREADY DO THIS [ slashdot.org ] to another neighbor back in January ?
Why is anyone even paying attention to him and his absurd claims ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't this same Firstenberg guy ALREADY DO THIS [slashdot.org] to another neighbor back in January?
Why is anyone even paying attention to him and his absurd claims?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670568</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1269963780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mmmm... it's not that easy. When I play loud music past 3am I can't simply say that my neighbor should get some earplugs if he wants to sleep.</p><p>There's always (at least here, your country may vary) the question of reasonability. It's reasonable that I do not listen to loud music at 3am, at least more reasonable than to ask my neighbor to wear earplugs. It's not reasonable to ask the maker of your food to bend to your whim when the rest of his millions of customers are happy with the way it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mmmm... it 's not that easy .
When I play loud music past 3am I ca n't simply say that my neighbor should get some earplugs if he wants to sleep.There 's always ( at least here , your country may vary ) the question of reasonability .
It 's reasonable that I do not listen to loud music at 3am , at least more reasonable than to ask my neighbor to wear earplugs .
It 's not reasonable to ask the maker of your food to bend to your whim when the rest of his millions of customers are happy with the way it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mmmm... it's not that easy.
When I play loud music past 3am I can't simply say that my neighbor should get some earplugs if he wants to sleep.There's always (at least here, your country may vary) the question of reasonability.
It's reasonable that I do not listen to loud music at 3am, at least more reasonable than to ask my neighbor to wear earplugs.
It's not reasonable to ask the maker of your food to bend to your whim when the rest of his millions of customers are happy with the way it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670292</id>
	<title>Human interest filler story</title>
	<author>kriston</author>
	<datestamp>1269962880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's see, we are reading a generically syndicated human interest filler story from Santa Fe, New Mexico that was published in the Chicago Tribune two days ago.</p><p>This isn't the New York Times.  It's pure silliness used to fill white space in newsprint as our other posters have agreed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see , we are reading a generically syndicated human interest filler story from Santa Fe , New Mexico that was published in the Chicago Tribune two days ago.This is n't the New York Times .
It 's pure silliness used to fill white space in newsprint as our other posters have agreed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see, we are reading a generically syndicated human interest filler story from Santa Fe, New Mexico that was published in the Chicago Tribune two days ago.This isn't the New York Times.
It's pure silliness used to fill white space in newsprint as our other posters have agreed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670996</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269965100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> She shouldn't have to put her house in a Faraday cage because she's permitted by the FCC to operate her wireless devices and to receive the outside signal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>She should n't have to put her house in a Faraday cage because she 's permitted by the FCC to operate her wireless devices and to receive the outside signal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> She shouldn't have to put her house in a Faraday cage because she's permitted by the FCC to operate her wireless devices and to receive the outside signal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672906</id>
	<title>Re:Mercy</title>
	<author>seandiggity</author>
	<datestamp>1269970620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whatever the case, this reminds me of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Intervention\_episodes#Season\_Eight" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">this episode of Intervention</a> [wikipedia.org], where there were definitely some serious mental health issues involved:<blockquote><div><p>As her painkiller use escalated, she claimed that different sources were causing her pain, including electricity, energy, colors, and even specific people. Despite Linda's wild claims, her mother clings to the belief that Linda's pain is real and she must do everything to help her, including depleting the family's savings and sending her son to be Linda's caretaker.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whatever the case , this reminds me of this episode of Intervention [ wikipedia.org ] , where there were definitely some serious mental health issues involved : As her painkiller use escalated , she claimed that different sources were causing her pain , including electricity , energy , colors , and even specific people .
Despite Linda 's wild claims , her mother clings to the belief that Linda 's pain is real and she must do everything to help her , including depleting the family 's savings and sending her son to be Linda 's caretaker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whatever the case, this reminds me of this episode of Intervention [wikipedia.org], where there were definitely some serious mental health issues involved:As her painkiller use escalated, she claimed that different sources were causing her pain, including electricity, energy, colors, and even specific people.
Despite Linda's wild claims, her mother clings to the belief that Linda's pain is real and she must do everything to help her, including depleting the family's savings and sending her son to be Linda's caretaker.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672574</id>
	<title>Re:use UTP then</title>
	<author>The Yuckinator</author>
	<datestamp>1269969540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget that the U in UTP stands for "Unsheilded".  That can't be good - hell, I bet the neighbour would use it as evidence of malice!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget that the U in UTP stands for " Unsheilded " .
That ca n't be good - hell , I bet the neighbour would use it as evidence of malice !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget that the U in UTP stands for "Unsheilded".
That can't be good - hell, I bet the neighbour would use it as evidence of malice!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672518</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>raddan</author>
	<datestamp>1269969420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, it looks like this guy has a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur\_Firstenberg" title="wikipedia.org">very long history</a> [wikipedia.org] of being nutty about EMF.  I'm inclined to say that he's just nutty.  Unfortunately, you can't argue with a nut.  The best thing for his neighbor to do is to end this case as quickly as possible and them move to a new neighborhood.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , it looks like this guy has a very long history [ wikipedia.org ] of being nutty about EMF .
I 'm inclined to say that he 's just nutty .
Unfortunately , you ca n't argue with a nut .
The best thing for his neighbor to do is to end this case as quickly as possible and them move to a new neighborhood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, it looks like this guy has a very long history [wikipedia.org] of being nutty about EMF.
I'm inclined to say that he's just nutty.
Unfortunately, you can't argue with a nut.
The best thing for his neighbor to do is to end this case as quickly as possible and them move to a new neighborhood.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670820</id>
	<title>Re:Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>wjousts</author>
	<datestamp>1269964500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, fair enough, but to play devil's advocate for a second here, what if it was really making him sick (it isn't)? Clearly you can't claim to be able to do whatever you want within the confines of your own house if it makes the guy next door sick?</p><p>Also, if I was your neighbor and, according to your argument, I can do whatever I want within the confines of my house, you won't mind if I play loud rock music at 2 AM in the morning every day? I think your right to a good nights sleep in your own home should trump by right to rock out at an unsocialable hour.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , fair enough , but to play devil 's advocate for a second here , what if it was really making him sick ( it is n't ) ?
Clearly you ca n't claim to be able to do whatever you want within the confines of your own house if it makes the guy next door sick ? Also , if I was your neighbor and , according to your argument , I can do whatever I want within the confines of my house , you wo n't mind if I play loud rock music at 2 AM in the morning every day ?
I think your right to a good nights sleep in your own home should trump by right to rock out at an unsocialable hour .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, fair enough, but to play devil's advocate for a second here, what if it was really making him sick (it isn't)?
Clearly you can't claim to be able to do whatever you want within the confines of your own house if it makes the guy next door sick?Also, if I was your neighbor and, according to your argument, I can do whatever I want within the confines of my house, you won't mind if I play loud rock music at 2 AM in the morning every day?
I think your right to a good nights sleep in your own home should trump by right to rock out at an unsocialable hour.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673422</id>
	<title>Easily disproved...</title>
	<author>Sol Rosinberg</author>
	<datestamp>1269972240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The effects of her wi-fi and other wireless devices on this man can easily be disproved by running a signal strength meter in his home to find out what radio signals at what strengths are received within it.  Likely her 2.4 GHz wireless is probably at a negligible -89 dBm, which may be even weaker by the time it goes through his walls.  A wireless (cellular) telephone is doubly not a problem since the signal for the cell tower is radiated everywhere, not just in a local field around her handset, so his claim there is also null and void.  Another way to catch him in a lie is to turn on hidden 2.4 GHz transmitters at regular wi-fi strength while he's in a room during a deposition, displaying no devices which use it, and if he displays no "symptoms" or complains of any discomfort, then it's pretty obvious he's lying and just a hair-brained Luddite.<br> <br>

Also, someone on the story's site made a good point in the comments.  This is similar to a neighbor's flowers causing allergies.  It's your own responsibility to shield yourself from that problem, not the neighbor's.  Should he feel that things which radiate in the electromagnetic spectrum are triggering some sort of allergy, he can always wrap his house in a Faraday cage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The effects of her wi-fi and other wireless devices on this man can easily be disproved by running a signal strength meter in his home to find out what radio signals at what strengths are received within it .
Likely her 2.4 GHz wireless is probably at a negligible -89 dBm , which may be even weaker by the time it goes through his walls .
A wireless ( cellular ) telephone is doubly not a problem since the signal for the cell tower is radiated everywhere , not just in a local field around her handset , so his claim there is also null and void .
Another way to catch him in a lie is to turn on hidden 2.4 GHz transmitters at regular wi-fi strength while he 's in a room during a deposition , displaying no devices which use it , and if he displays no " symptoms " or complains of any discomfort , then it 's pretty obvious he 's lying and just a hair-brained Luddite .
Also , someone on the story 's site made a good point in the comments .
This is similar to a neighbor 's flowers causing allergies .
It 's your own responsibility to shield yourself from that problem , not the neighbor 's .
Should he feel that things which radiate in the electromagnetic spectrum are triggering some sort of allergy , he can always wrap his house in a Faraday cage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The effects of her wi-fi and other wireless devices on this man can easily be disproved by running a signal strength meter in his home to find out what radio signals at what strengths are received within it.
Likely her 2.4 GHz wireless is probably at a negligible -89 dBm, which may be even weaker by the time it goes through his walls.
A wireless (cellular) telephone is doubly not a problem since the signal for the cell tower is radiated everywhere, not just in a local field around her handset, so his claim there is also null and void.
Another way to catch him in a lie is to turn on hidden 2.4 GHz transmitters at regular wi-fi strength while he's in a room during a deposition, displaying no devices which use it, and if he displays no "symptoms" or complains of any discomfort, then it's pretty obvious he's lying and just a hair-brained Luddite.
Also, someone on the story's site made a good point in the comments.
This is similar to a neighbor's flowers causing allergies.
It's your own responsibility to shield yourself from that problem, not the neighbor's.
Should he feel that things which radiate in the electromagnetic spectrum are triggering some sort of allergy, he can always wrap his house in a Faraday cage.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670496</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>wisnoskij</author>
	<datestamp>1269963540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So if his neighbor was throwing broken glass and garbage onto his lawn and throwing rocks through his window you would say the same thing? it is his responsibility to defend his house?</p><p>The only thing wrong with the lawsuit is that 'electromagnetic sensitivities' does not exist, not that it is his responsibility to defend his house all by himself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So if his neighbor was throwing broken glass and garbage onto his lawn and throwing rocks through his window you would say the same thing ?
it is his responsibility to defend his house ? The only thing wrong with the lawsuit is that 'electromagnetic sensitivities ' does not exist , not that it is his responsibility to defend his house all by himself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if his neighbor was throwing broken glass and garbage onto his lawn and throwing rocks through his window you would say the same thing?
it is his responsibility to defend his house?The only thing wrong with the lawsuit is that 'electromagnetic sensitivities' does not exist, not that it is his responsibility to defend his house all by himself.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672500</id>
	<title>Re:She's an idiot...</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1269969360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>If having wifi is a basic human right for life and liberty the world has gone to shit like I had never thought.</i> <br> <br>
Unless he is suing his other neighbours for using wifi as well, then yes, her life and liberty are under attack.  She's being sued for half a million dollars.  The street the guy lives on is right in the middle Santa Fe, less than a mile from the state capitol buildings, and he is surrounded by houses.  The basic right isn't wifi per se, but the right to do your own thing in your own home.  How does that phrase go... life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness... or something like that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If having wifi is a basic human right for life and liberty the world has gone to shit like I had never thought .
Unless he is suing his other neighbours for using wifi as well , then yes , her life and liberty are under attack .
She 's being sued for half a million dollars .
The street the guy lives on is right in the middle Santa Fe , less than a mile from the state capitol buildings , and he is surrounded by houses .
The basic right is n't wifi per se , but the right to do your own thing in your own home .
How does that phrase go... life , liberty , and the pursuit of happiness... or something like that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If having wifi is a basic human right for life and liberty the world has gone to shit like I had never thought.
Unless he is suing his other neighbours for using wifi as well, then yes, her life and liberty are under attack.
She's being sued for half a million dollars.
The street the guy lives on is right in the middle Santa Fe, less than a mile from the state capitol buildings, and he is surrounded by houses.
The basic right isn't wifi per se, but the right to do your own thing in your own home.
How does that phrase go... life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness... or something like that?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672174</id>
	<title>I knew a guy, who knew a guy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269968220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a friend who was my college roommate. We were both big into Street Fighter. A friend of his was a champion Street Fighter played (a 3rd place finish in the national SF2:CE tournament capcom held), and also was a fanatical and highly-ranked Mario Kart player. He also played poker online and so on. But he was no shut in; he was lean and fit, played basketball, and was a generally very cool guy.</p><p>Anyhow, my friend and I were chatting a couple years ago and I asked what this guy was up to - and I was told he had to swear off gaming entirely, because if he played, he'd get sick. It apparently affected him if he was around anything electronic for too long, too close. Of course, you never know - but he was completely normal, funny, balanced when I knew him. So while this feels incredibly preposterous, I do know a guy, who knows a guy, who swore off electronics. (He didn't sue anyone, and afaik, he wasn't affected by something as far away as a neighbor's wifi; he had to be in close proximity to a TV or computer or such.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a friend who was my college roommate .
We were both big into Street Fighter .
A friend of his was a champion Street Fighter played ( a 3rd place finish in the national SF2 : CE tournament capcom held ) , and also was a fanatical and highly-ranked Mario Kart player .
He also played poker online and so on .
But he was no shut in ; he was lean and fit , played basketball , and was a generally very cool guy.Anyhow , my friend and I were chatting a couple years ago and I asked what this guy was up to - and I was told he had to swear off gaming entirely , because if he played , he 'd get sick .
It apparently affected him if he was around anything electronic for too long , too close .
Of course , you never know - but he was completely normal , funny , balanced when I knew him .
So while this feels incredibly preposterous , I do know a guy , who knows a guy , who swore off electronics .
( He did n't sue anyone , and afaik , he was n't affected by something as far away as a neighbor 's wifi ; he had to be in close proximity to a TV or computer or such .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a friend who was my college roommate.
We were both big into Street Fighter.
A friend of his was a champion Street Fighter played (a 3rd place finish in the national SF2:CE tournament capcom held), and also was a fanatical and highly-ranked Mario Kart player.
He also played poker online and so on.
But he was no shut in; he was lean and fit, played basketball, and was a generally very cool guy.Anyhow, my friend and I were chatting a couple years ago and I asked what this guy was up to - and I was told he had to swear off gaming entirely, because if he played, he'd get sick.
It apparently affected him if he was around anything electronic for too long, too close.
Of course, you never know - but he was completely normal, funny, balanced when I knew him.
So while this feels incredibly preposterous, I do know a guy, who knows a guy, who swore off electronics.
(He didn't sue anyone, and afaik, he wasn't affected by something as far away as a neighbor's wifi; he had to be in close proximity to a TV or computer or such.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671138</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Bobfrankly1</author>
	<datestamp>1269965460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"the more attention you give morons, the more they'll act like morons."</p><p>...</p><p>Scientology too... but that is another thread.</p></div><p>Well, Scientology isn't acting...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" the more attention you give morons , the more they 'll act like morons .
" ...Scientology too... but that is another thread.Well , Scientology is n't acting.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the more attention you give morons, the more they'll act like morons.
"...Scientology too... but that is another thread.Well, Scientology isn't acting...
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672742</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1269970080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, even if the sensitivities were real, I'm not so sure he'd have a point. It would be quite unfortunate for him to be sure, but is it really OK for him to demand that the clock be turned back everywhere he might want to go in order to accommodate him? Where does it end? If he moves to a high-rise apartment, must everyone in the building discard all of their technology? How much power is he granted over his neighbors? Can he order them to discard anything he says bothers him? Perhaps make them buy vintage cars without electronic ignition? Get old analog spring watches? No TV? No stereo? What happens when he decides that the worst damage comes from 60Hz signals, must the power be turned off in the building? Across the street?</p><p>Of course, once all of the damaging RF (including 60 Hz) is eliminated, that's when he discovers that he is also sensitive to mercaptans and hydrocarbons so no candles and no gas for heat, cooking, or light.</p><p>At that point, can his landlord sue him for driving out all of his tenants?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , even if the sensitivities were real , I 'm not so sure he 'd have a point .
It would be quite unfortunate for him to be sure , but is it really OK for him to demand that the clock be turned back everywhere he might want to go in order to accommodate him ?
Where does it end ?
If he moves to a high-rise apartment , must everyone in the building discard all of their technology ?
How much power is he granted over his neighbors ?
Can he order them to discard anything he says bothers him ?
Perhaps make them buy vintage cars without electronic ignition ?
Get old analog spring watches ?
No TV ?
No stereo ?
What happens when he decides that the worst damage comes from 60Hz signals , must the power be turned off in the building ?
Across the street ? Of course , once all of the damaging RF ( including 60 Hz ) is eliminated , that 's when he discovers that he is also sensitive to mercaptans and hydrocarbons so no candles and no gas for heat , cooking , or light.At that point , can his landlord sue him for driving out all of his tenants ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, even if the sensitivities were real, I'm not so sure he'd have a point.
It would be quite unfortunate for him to be sure, but is it really OK for him to demand that the clock be turned back everywhere he might want to go in order to accommodate him?
Where does it end?
If he moves to a high-rise apartment, must everyone in the building discard all of their technology?
How much power is he granted over his neighbors?
Can he order them to discard anything he says bothers him?
Perhaps make them buy vintage cars without electronic ignition?
Get old analog spring watches?
No TV?
No stereo?
What happens when he decides that the worst damage comes from 60Hz signals, must the power be turned off in the building?
Across the street?Of course, once all of the damaging RF (including 60 Hz) is eliminated, that's when he discovers that he is also sensitive to mercaptans and hydrocarbons so no candles and no gas for heat, cooking, or light.At that point, can his landlord sue him for driving out all of his tenants?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672160</id>
	<title>"If you publicly embarrass ...</title>
	<author>msauve</author>
	<datestamp>1269968220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>somebody for acting stupidly. They often think twice before acting stupidly again."</p></div></blockquote><p>Unless they're too stupid to notice.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>somebody for acting stupidly .
They often think twice before acting stupidly again .
" Unless they 're too stupid to notice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>somebody for acting stupidly.
They often think twice before acting stupidly again.
"Unless they're too stupid to notice.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671020</id>
	<title>Against something that's government sanctioned?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269965160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The devices in question are already approved by the Federal government for use in residential settings.</p><p>That more than likely trumps any claims by this nutcase*.</p><p>It will be up to the nutcase* himself to insulate or shield the interior of his home.</p><p>Think about it - if instead of electromagnetic sensitivity he thought he had car sensitivity - cars driving by his house made him sick.  He'd want to stop people from driving on the street, but that's another government sanctioned activity that no court would let him impose restrictions on.</p><p>*nutcase - someone with a psychological disorder that they think is caused by something external, instead of the truth which is that he's got too much time on his hands.  He should really buy an old mine and live underground if he wants to avoid RF.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The devices in question are already approved by the Federal government for use in residential settings.That more than likely trumps any claims by this nutcase * .It will be up to the nutcase * himself to insulate or shield the interior of his home.Think about it - if instead of electromagnetic sensitivity he thought he had car sensitivity - cars driving by his house made him sick .
He 'd want to stop people from driving on the street , but that 's another government sanctioned activity that no court would let him impose restrictions on .
* nutcase - someone with a psychological disorder that they think is caused by something external , instead of the truth which is that he 's got too much time on his hands .
He should really buy an old mine and live underground if he wants to avoid RF .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The devices in question are already approved by the Federal government for use in residential settings.That more than likely trumps any claims by this nutcase*.It will be up to the nutcase* himself to insulate or shield the interior of his home.Think about it - if instead of electromagnetic sensitivity he thought he had car sensitivity - cars driving by his house made him sick.
He'd want to stop people from driving on the street, but that's another government sanctioned activity that no court would let him impose restrictions on.
*nutcase - someone with a psychological disorder that they think is caused by something external, instead of the truth which is that he's got too much time on his hands.
He should really buy an old mine and live underground if he wants to avoid RF.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31676142</id>
	<title>You can sue someone for -anything-</title>
	<author>newdsfornerds</author>
	<datestamp>1269982320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sure you can. You could sue me for disagreeing with you. I DARE YOU!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure you can .
You could sue me for disagreeing with you .
I DARE YOU !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure you can.
You could sue me for disagreeing with you.
I DARE YOU!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671046</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269965220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that to an extent this philosophy makes sense - but not when carried to extremes.  The question is 'where do you draw the line'.</p><p>Example 1:<br>If I am your neighbor, and I direct a pipeline that extends to the border of my property and then proceed to blast poisonous gas from that pipeline - is it your responsibility to protect yourself from the gas?</p><p>Example 2:<br>I remove the pipeline and replace it with a foghorn.  I then proceed to blow the foghorn 24 hours a day at a very high volume.</p><p>Only an EXTREME view on personal liberties or anti-authoritarianism would see these two acts as uses of personal property that should not be questioned.</p><p>So where does the line get drawn?</p><p>The problem is externalities: I do something (on my own property), and the effects of that activity propogate onto other peoples body and/or property (we're still under the capitalistic policy of private ownership of all land).  However, you could argue that everything has externalities, therefore freedom of personal expression shouldn't exist because they necessarily have an impact on other people and their property.</p><p>So the answer is compromise - but where do you draw the line?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that to an extent this philosophy makes sense - but not when carried to extremes .
The question is 'where do you draw the line'.Example 1 : If I am your neighbor , and I direct a pipeline that extends to the border of my property and then proceed to blast poisonous gas from that pipeline - is it your responsibility to protect yourself from the gas ? Example 2 : I remove the pipeline and replace it with a foghorn .
I then proceed to blow the foghorn 24 hours a day at a very high volume.Only an EXTREME view on personal liberties or anti-authoritarianism would see these two acts as uses of personal property that should not be questioned.So where does the line get drawn ? The problem is externalities : I do something ( on my own property ) , and the effects of that activity propogate onto other peoples body and/or property ( we 're still under the capitalistic policy of private ownership of all land ) .
However , you could argue that everything has externalities , therefore freedom of personal expression should n't exist because they necessarily have an impact on other people and their property.So the answer is compromise - but where do you draw the line ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that to an extent this philosophy makes sense - but not when carried to extremes.
The question is 'where do you draw the line'.Example 1:If I am your neighbor, and I direct a pipeline that extends to the border of my property and then proceed to blast poisonous gas from that pipeline - is it your responsibility to protect yourself from the gas?Example 2:I remove the pipeline and replace it with a foghorn.
I then proceed to blow the foghorn 24 hours a day at a very high volume.Only an EXTREME view on personal liberties or anti-authoritarianism would see these two acts as uses of personal property that should not be questioned.So where does the line get drawn?The problem is externalities: I do something (on my own property), and the effects of that activity propogate onto other peoples body and/or property (we're still under the capitalistic policy of private ownership of all land).
However, you could argue that everything has externalities, therefore freedom of personal expression shouldn't exist because they necessarily have an impact on other people and their property.So the answer is compromise - but where do you draw the line?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670606</id>
	<title>to make a case out of that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269963900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the victim needs to quantify their health and then demonstrate there is a decrease in the health percentage after having been exposed to neighbor's wi-fi. just my two cents<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>mircea</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the victim needs to quantify their health and then demonstrate there is a decrease in the health percentage after having been exposed to neighbor 's wi-fi .
just my two cents : ) mircea</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the victim needs to quantify their health and then demonstrate there is a decrease in the health percentage after having been exposed to neighbor's wi-fi.
just my two cents :)mircea</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672048</id>
	<title>Maybe?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269967920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While this guy is almost certainly a loon, it has actually been demonstrated in double blind experiments that some people are sensitive to certain EM frequencies, including those from cell phones. There have been people who could tell if a cell phone was switched on close to them even it was hidden from them. In some cases they weren't even told that they were going to be part of an experiment so they couldn't have just correctly guessed.</p><p>Some people get headaches, others get rashes.</p><p>It's usually only certain frequencies that set people off, and even then it has to be a close range signal. A long wave radio wave broadcast 100 miles away wouldn't be enough to do it, but a 2.4ghz device 3 feet away might. So it is scientifically possible that this guy might be telling the truth. The human body uses many different electormagnetic frequencies and is sensitive to many, too. Our muscles, generate em pulses when we move, and we use em pulses to tell them how to move.</p><p>Rather than dismiss this case out of hand, I'm going to wait for a serious scientist to actually put their money where their mouth is.</p><p>If this guy is just a money grubbing kook, then 15 minutes in a lab with an EM frequency generator will prove it. It could also prove that he's actually suffering.</p><p>My money is on the telecoms companies rubbishing this and this case will be thrown out without his claim ever being proved or disproved. The cell phone companies would pay for this case to disappear, even if there were 1 or 2 people in the entire world who cold prove that cell phones or routers made them ill it would cause chaos for them because all of the loons would come out of the woodwork to sue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While this guy is almost certainly a loon , it has actually been demonstrated in double blind experiments that some people are sensitive to certain EM frequencies , including those from cell phones .
There have been people who could tell if a cell phone was switched on close to them even it was hidden from them .
In some cases they were n't even told that they were going to be part of an experiment so they could n't have just correctly guessed.Some people get headaches , others get rashes.It 's usually only certain frequencies that set people off , and even then it has to be a close range signal .
A long wave radio wave broadcast 100 miles away would n't be enough to do it , but a 2.4ghz device 3 feet away might .
So it is scientifically possible that this guy might be telling the truth .
The human body uses many different electormagnetic frequencies and is sensitive to many , too .
Our muscles , generate em pulses when we move , and we use em pulses to tell them how to move.Rather than dismiss this case out of hand , I 'm going to wait for a serious scientist to actually put their money where their mouth is.If this guy is just a money grubbing kook , then 15 minutes in a lab with an EM frequency generator will prove it .
It could also prove that he 's actually suffering.My money is on the telecoms companies rubbishing this and this case will be thrown out without his claim ever being proved or disproved .
The cell phone companies would pay for this case to disappear , even if there were 1 or 2 people in the entire world who cold prove that cell phones or routers made them ill it would cause chaos for them because all of the loons would come out of the woodwork to sue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While this guy is almost certainly a loon, it has actually been demonstrated in double blind experiments that some people are sensitive to certain EM frequencies, including those from cell phones.
There have been people who could tell if a cell phone was switched on close to them even it was hidden from them.
In some cases they weren't even told that they were going to be part of an experiment so they couldn't have just correctly guessed.Some people get headaches, others get rashes.It's usually only certain frequencies that set people off, and even then it has to be a close range signal.
A long wave radio wave broadcast 100 miles away wouldn't be enough to do it, but a 2.4ghz device 3 feet away might.
So it is scientifically possible that this guy might be telling the truth.
The human body uses many different electormagnetic frequencies and is sensitive to many, too.
Our muscles, generate em pulses when we move, and we use em pulses to tell them how to move.Rather than dismiss this case out of hand, I'm going to wait for a serious scientist to actually put their money where their mouth is.If this guy is just a money grubbing kook, then 15 minutes in a lab with an EM frequency generator will prove it.
It could also prove that he's actually suffering.My money is on the telecoms companies rubbishing this and this case will be thrown out without his claim ever being proved or disproved.
The cell phone companies would pay for this case to disappear, even if there were 1 or 2 people in the entire world who cold prove that cell phones or routers made them ill it would cause chaos for them because all of the loons would come out of the woodwork to sue.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670196</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269962580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt;&gt; I wish reporters wouldn't give this type of crap the time of day.
<br> <br>Yep - let's ignore this story and focus on the previous story, which is... let's see... A NEW APPLE PRODUCT RUMORS!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; I wish reporters would n't give this type of crap the time of day .
Yep - let 's ignore this story and focus on the previous story , which is... let 's see... A NEW APPLE PRODUCT RUMORS !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; I wish reporters wouldn't give this type of crap the time of day.
Yep - let's ignore this story and focus on the previous story, which is... let's see... A NEW APPLE PRODUCT RUMORS!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31674708</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Wireless Joe</author>
	<datestamp>1269976620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly. They often think twice before acting stupidly again.</p></div> </blockquote><p>

Tell that to the judge who sued the dry cleaners for millions because they lost his pants (and lost his job because he wouldn't let it go), or Orly Taitz, etc.  Some people just won't learn.</p></div>
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<tokenext>If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly .
They often think twice before acting stupidly again .
Tell that to the judge who sued the dry cleaners for millions because they lost his pants ( and lost his job because he would n't let it go ) , or Orly Taitz , etc .
Some people just wo n't learn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly.
They often think twice before acting stupidly again.
Tell that to the judge who sued the dry cleaners for millions because they lost his pants (and lost his job because he wouldn't let it go), or Orly Taitz, etc.
Some people just won't learn.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31701346</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>arekusu\_ou</author>
	<datestamp>1270145280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uhm....I shall rebut your theory with one name.</p><p>Jack. Thompson.</p><p>I was also thinking about Tom Cruise, LARPers, Medieval Faires, Civil War Recreation People, Mimes, Certain breed of Fanboys in Sports, Anime, Fantasy, and SciFi, Creationists, the list goes on and on....</p><p>I had another one that's not PC, so I'll be nice and leave it off, though I'm sure anyone can make the connection with of Mice and Men.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhm....I shall rebut your theory with one name.Jack .
Thompson.I was also thinking about Tom Cruise , LARPers , Medieval Faires , Civil War Recreation People , Mimes , Certain breed of Fanboys in Sports , Anime , Fantasy , and SciFi , Creationists , the list goes on and on....I had another one that 's not PC , so I 'll be nice and leave it off , though I 'm sure anyone can make the connection with of Mice and Men .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhm....I shall rebut your theory with one name.Jack.
Thompson.I was also thinking about Tom Cruise, LARPers, Medieval Faires, Civil War Recreation People, Mimes, Certain breed of Fanboys in Sports, Anime, Fantasy, and SciFi, Creationists, the list goes on and on....I had another one that's not PC, so I'll be nice and leave it off, though I'm sure anyone can make the connection with of Mice and Men.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671514</id>
	<title>Re:I think I have a solution</title>
	<author>Y Ddraig Goch</author>
	<datestamp>1269966540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I recall correctly from my electronics courses, you do not need to use Gold to stop EM radiation.  A grounded aluminum screen should do the trick.  Seeing as the wave length of a 2.4 GHz sine wave is 0.125 meters, the screen is more than fine enough.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I recall correctly from my electronics courses , you do not need to use Gold to stop EM radiation .
A grounded aluminum screen should do the trick .
Seeing as the wave length of a 2.4 GHz sine wave is 0.125 meters , the screen is more than fine enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I recall correctly from my electronics courses, you do not need to use Gold to stop EM radiation.
A grounded aluminum screen should do the trick.
Seeing as the wave length of a 2.4 GHz sine wave is 0.125 meters, the screen is more than fine enough.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670940</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269964920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I disagree with your sentiment. If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly. They often think twice before acting stupidly again.</p></div><p>Well, you've got two problems with this disagreement.</p><p>1. People rationalize pretty much any behavior they intentionally exhibit.  The most hardened of criminals in lock-up feel that they don't deserve it.  What they did wasn't that wrong, or society made them do it, or they were justified because of some wrong they perceived against themselves.  It's no different with this guy.  What he's doing is right no matter what the judge says, what his neighbors say, what the general public says.  It wouldn't be very surprising if it were shown that he deceptively uses a laptop or visual observations to know that his neighbor is using wifi or her cell phone.  I'm sure he'd view these things as justified because of "what she's doing".</p><p>If I'm wrong, he should go for the Randi prize.  I bet they'd agree to test him if he claimed to be sensitive to the types of EMR described in the story.</p><p>2. Many people do feed off of the negative attention.  Just look at the enormous amount of effort that Slashdot editors and the moderation system go to in order to fend off the trolls.  Trolls are the people that get a warm fuzzy feeling when they see someone frowning or imagine that they're frowning.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I disagree with your sentiment .
If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly .
They often think twice before acting stupidly again.Well , you 've got two problems with this disagreement.1 .
People rationalize pretty much any behavior they intentionally exhibit .
The most hardened of criminals in lock-up feel that they do n't deserve it .
What they did was n't that wrong , or society made them do it , or they were justified because of some wrong they perceived against themselves .
It 's no different with this guy .
What he 's doing is right no matter what the judge says , what his neighbors say , what the general public says .
It would n't be very surprising if it were shown that he deceptively uses a laptop or visual observations to know that his neighbor is using wifi or her cell phone .
I 'm sure he 'd view these things as justified because of " what she 's doing " .If I 'm wrong , he should go for the Randi prize .
I bet they 'd agree to test him if he claimed to be sensitive to the types of EMR described in the story.2 .
Many people do feed off of the negative attention .
Just look at the enormous amount of effort that Slashdot editors and the moderation system go to in order to fend off the trolls .
Trolls are the people that get a warm fuzzy feeling when they see someone frowning or imagine that they 're frowning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree with your sentiment.
If you publicly embarrass somebody for acting stupidly.
They often think twice before acting stupidly again.Well, you've got two problems with this disagreement.1.
People rationalize pretty much any behavior they intentionally exhibit.
The most hardened of criminals in lock-up feel that they don't deserve it.
What they did wasn't that wrong, or society made them do it, or they were justified because of some wrong they perceived against themselves.
It's no different with this guy.
What he's doing is right no matter what the judge says, what his neighbors say, what the general public says.
It wouldn't be very surprising if it were shown that he deceptively uses a laptop or visual observations to know that his neighbor is using wifi or her cell phone.
I'm sure he'd view these things as justified because of "what she's doing".If I'm wrong, he should go for the Randi prize.
I bet they'd agree to test him if he claimed to be sensitive to the types of EMR described in the story.2.
Many people do feed off of the negative attention.
Just look at the enormous amount of effort that Slashdot editors and the moderation system go to in order to fend off the trolls.
Trolls are the people that get a warm fuzzy feeling when they see someone frowning or imagine that they're frowning.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31677654</id>
	<title>How dare he!  ( A lesson in ethics ignored)</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1269943860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This woman has a typical American grasp of ethics.  "How DARE he try to tell me what to do and when to do it IN MY OWN HOME!"  What she fails to grasp is the very nature of ethics and why they're needed.</p><p>She indeed should be allowed to do whatever the hell she wants in her own home, AS LONG AS what she does doesn't escape those four walls with a potential to infringe on someone else's "pursuit of happiness".  She's broadcasting EM radiation that indeed is escaping those walls.  WHAT IF the guy actually has the sensitivity he claims in this case?  WHAT IF instead his complaint was that her signals were interfering with some DEVICE of his IN HIS OWN HOME?  Alternatively, what if this was about a loud stereo?  It "sounds" as if she might have displayed a typical knee-jerk anti-ethical reaction.  I know that reaction all too well.</p><p>When we live and interact the way we do, no one actually has the complete freedom of action that they (Americans?) think they do, and have been ritually brainwashed to believe they should.  Ethics exist precisely to govern and moderate human INTERACTIONS; if we all lived on our own private islands and had no contact, then ethics would be moot.  How many of us live that way?  The more densely humans live and the more they interact, the greater the ethical framework needed to govern that.  It's only gonna get worse for most of us.  For a few, who get to buy those private islands or those 40 acres out in the country, they indeed do get to do almost anything they want.</p><p>The rest of us SHOULD be considering the effects of our actions on others and whether those effects can be mitigated, every minute of the day.  I turn the car stereo down at stoplights, take 3 or 4 carts into stores from the parking lot, walk softly like a ballerina on the second floor of my row house, and don't slam anything.  If there's a chance my behavior might diminish someone else's happiness, then I change or stop the behavior if the cost isn't too great.  Isn't this what a certain authors have called "enlightened self interest"?  It's neither impossible nor impractical; it just requires less brainwashing and indoctrination to the contrary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This woman has a typical American grasp of ethics .
" How DARE he try to tell me what to do and when to do it IN MY OWN HOME !
" What she fails to grasp is the very nature of ethics and why they 're needed.She indeed should be allowed to do whatever the hell she wants in her own home , AS LONG AS what she does does n't escape those four walls with a potential to infringe on someone else 's " pursuit of happiness " .
She 's broadcasting EM radiation that indeed is escaping those walls .
WHAT IF the guy actually has the sensitivity he claims in this case ?
WHAT IF instead his complaint was that her signals were interfering with some DEVICE of his IN HIS OWN HOME ?
Alternatively , what if this was about a loud stereo ?
It " sounds " as if she might have displayed a typical knee-jerk anti-ethical reaction .
I know that reaction all too well.When we live and interact the way we do , no one actually has the complete freedom of action that they ( Americans ?
) think they do , and have been ritually brainwashed to believe they should .
Ethics exist precisely to govern and moderate human INTERACTIONS ; if we all lived on our own private islands and had no contact , then ethics would be moot .
How many of us live that way ?
The more densely humans live and the more they interact , the greater the ethical framework needed to govern that .
It 's only gon na get worse for most of us .
For a few , who get to buy those private islands or those 40 acres out in the country , they indeed do get to do almost anything they want.The rest of us SHOULD be considering the effects of our actions on others and whether those effects can be mitigated , every minute of the day .
I turn the car stereo down at stoplights , take 3 or 4 carts into stores from the parking lot , walk softly like a ballerina on the second floor of my row house , and do n't slam anything .
If there 's a chance my behavior might diminish someone else 's happiness , then I change or stop the behavior if the cost is n't too great .
Is n't this what a certain authors have called " enlightened self interest " ?
It 's neither impossible nor impractical ; it just requires less brainwashing and indoctrination to the contrary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This woman has a typical American grasp of ethics.
"How DARE he try to tell me what to do and when to do it IN MY OWN HOME!
"  What she fails to grasp is the very nature of ethics and why they're needed.She indeed should be allowed to do whatever the hell she wants in her own home, AS LONG AS what she does doesn't escape those four walls with a potential to infringe on someone else's "pursuit of happiness".
She's broadcasting EM radiation that indeed is escaping those walls.
WHAT IF the guy actually has the sensitivity he claims in this case?
WHAT IF instead his complaint was that her signals were interfering with some DEVICE of his IN HIS OWN HOME?
Alternatively, what if this was about a loud stereo?
It "sounds" as if she might have displayed a typical knee-jerk anti-ethical reaction.
I know that reaction all too well.When we live and interact the way we do, no one actually has the complete freedom of action that they (Americans?
) think they do, and have been ritually brainwashed to believe they should.
Ethics exist precisely to govern and moderate human INTERACTIONS; if we all lived on our own private islands and had no contact, then ethics would be moot.
How many of us live that way?
The more densely humans live and the more they interact, the greater the ethical framework needed to govern that.
It's only gonna get worse for most of us.
For a few, who get to buy those private islands or those 40 acres out in the country, they indeed do get to do almost anything they want.The rest of us SHOULD be considering the effects of our actions on others and whether those effects can be mitigated, every minute of the day.
I turn the car stereo down at stoplights, take 3 or 4 carts into stores from the parking lot, walk softly like a ballerina on the second floor of my row house, and don't slam anything.
If there's a chance my behavior might diminish someone else's happiness, then I change or stop the behavior if the cost isn't too great.
Isn't this what a certain authors have called "enlightened self interest"?
It's neither impossible nor impractical; it just requires less brainwashing and indoctrination to the contrary.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670136</id>
	<title>Lucky for him</title>
	<author>Grashnak</author>
	<datestamp>1269962400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>He's lucky he doesn't live in a universe where "electromagnetism" is everywhere, all the time.  Oh, wait...</htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's lucky he does n't live in a universe where " electromagnetism " is everywhere , all the time .
Oh , wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's lucky he doesn't live in a universe where "electromagnetism" is everywhere, all the time.
Oh, wait...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670458</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269963420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, technically you can sue your neighbor for anything, you'll just lose (and be an ass).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , technically you can sue your neighbor for anything , you 'll just lose ( and be an ass ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, technically you can sue your neighbor for anything, you'll just lose (and be an ass).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671276</id>
	<title>Re:Um...</title>
	<author>hattig</author>
	<datestamp>1269965880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Someone better not tell this guy that cell towers are omnidirectional so he'll experience that radiation regardless. "</p><p>Or better still, someone should tell the poor woman and/or her lawyer, otherwise she could end up without a proper technological and scientific defence against the man's claims.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Someone better not tell this guy that cell towers are omnidirectional so he 'll experience that radiation regardless .
" Or better still , someone should tell the poor woman and/or her lawyer , otherwise she could end up without a proper technological and scientific defence against the man 's claims .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Someone better not tell this guy that cell towers are omnidirectional so he'll experience that radiation regardless.
"Or better still, someone should tell the poor woman and/or her lawyer, otherwise she could end up without a proper technological and scientific defence against the man's claims.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670360</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672440</id>
	<title>I've mildly experienced this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269969120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually... I find when working in dense data centers, where cell phones and wifi cannot be used because of all the interference, that I get mild headaches and dizziness after a time.  It's just as likely due to the constant hum sound though.  In a different part of the building, a few hundred feet away, I'm just fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually... I find when working in dense data centers , where cell phones and wifi can not be used because of all the interference , that I get mild headaches and dizziness after a time .
It 's just as likely due to the constant hum sound though .
In a different part of the building , a few hundred feet away , I 'm just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually... I find when working in dense data centers, where cell phones and wifi cannot be used because of all the interference, that I get mild headaches and dizziness after a time.
It's just as likely due to the constant hum sound though.
In a different part of the building, a few hundred feet away, I'm just fine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671262</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269965880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are making HUGE assumptions about what embarrasses people, and the notion of what exactly it means to 'act stupidly' - you may be embarrassed when publicly humiliated but some people feed off of this type of attention and have no idea that they are 'acting stupidly'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are making HUGE assumptions about what embarrasses people , and the notion of what exactly it means to 'act stupidly ' - you may be embarrassed when publicly humiliated but some people feed off of this type of attention and have no idea that they are 'acting stupidly' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are making HUGE assumptions about what embarrasses people, and the notion of what exactly it means to 'act stupidly' - you may be embarrassed when publicly humiliated but some people feed off of this type of attention and have no idea that they are 'acting stupidly'.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670232</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671592</id>
	<title>Re:the more attention you give morons...</title>
	<author>IICV</author>
	<datestamp>1269966720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That only works if the reporting is embarrassing. What tends to happen in the United States is that the reporters try to pretend that they are unbiased, and as such give equal weight to both the retarded side and the rational side - after all if there are two sides to an argument, then obviously there's a 50/50 chance that either side is true, right?</p><p>Thus, some moron like this guy and his woo-filled doctor* get put up against Dr. Bob Park, a physicist at the University of Maryland. That's not embarrassing at all; it puts these two idiots on an equal level with someone who's spent his entire career studying the subject. It's fucking flattering.</p><p>*Just because you have an MD doesn't mean you're qualified to determine whether "electrosensitivity" is a condition, no matter what the gullible reporter thinks. Do you think that a lady who pushes the always-vague "toxins" theory of chronic disease knows anything about electromagnetism beyond what she learned in Freshman physics?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That only works if the reporting is embarrassing .
What tends to happen in the United States is that the reporters try to pretend that they are unbiased , and as such give equal weight to both the retarded side and the rational side - after all if there are two sides to an argument , then obviously there 's a 50/50 chance that either side is true , right ? Thus , some moron like this guy and his woo-filled doctor * get put up against Dr. Bob Park , a physicist at the University of Maryland .
That 's not embarrassing at all ; it puts these two idiots on an equal level with someone who 's spent his entire career studying the subject .
It 's fucking flattering .
* Just because you have an MD does n't mean you 're qualified to determine whether " electrosensitivity " is a condition , no matter what the gullible reporter thinks .
Do you think that a lady who pushes the always-vague " toxins " theory of chronic disease knows anything about electromagnetism beyond what she learned in Freshman physics ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That only works if the reporting is embarrassing.
What tends to happen in the United States is that the reporters try to pretend that they are unbiased, and as such give equal weight to both the retarded side and the rational side - after all if there are two sides to an argument, then obviously there's a 50/50 chance that either side is true, right?Thus, some moron like this guy and his woo-filled doctor* get put up against Dr. Bob Park, a physicist at the University of Maryland.
That's not embarrassing at all; it puts these two idiots on an equal level with someone who's spent his entire career studying the subject.
It's fucking flattering.
*Just because you have an MD doesn't mean you're qualified to determine whether "electrosensitivity" is a condition, no matter what the gullible reporter thinks.
Do you think that a lady who pushes the always-vague "toxins" theory of chronic disease knows anything about electromagnetism beyond what she learned in Freshman physics?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670232</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670988</id>
	<title>Re:it's not so funny</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269965040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Don't know for an Wireless AP but I go real headaches from a telco's base station."</p><p>No, you don't actually.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Do n't know for an Wireless AP but I go real headaches from a telco 's base station .
" No , you do n't actually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Don't know for an Wireless AP but I go real headaches from a telco's base station.
"No, you don't actually.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670476</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670710</id>
	<title>Re:use UTP then</title>
	<author>HungryHobo</author>
	<datestamp>1269964140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>being able to sit my laptop on the counter without worrying about tripping over a cable is worth more than the crazy demands of a delusional hypochondriac.<br>Good neighbours put up their own EM shielding when they suffer from imaginary conditions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>being able to sit my laptop on the counter without worrying about tripping over a cable is worth more than the crazy demands of a delusional hypochondriac.Good neighbours put up their own EM shielding when they suffer from imaginary conditions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>being able to sit my laptop on the counter without worrying about tripping over a cable is worth more than the crazy demands of a delusional hypochondriac.Good neighbours put up their own EM shielding when they suffer from imaginary conditions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670374</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672132</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1269968160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But I'm REALLY sensitive! The defendant is making me sick by consuming milk products in his home. I want him on a court ordered lactose free diet so the vapors from his pores don't come over here and make me sick!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But I 'm REALLY sensitive !
The defendant is making me sick by consuming milk products in his home .
I want him on a court ordered lactose free diet so the vapors from his pores do n't come over here and make me sick !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I'm REALLY sensitive!
The defendant is making me sick by consuming milk products in his home.
I want him on a court ordered lactose free diet so the vapors from his pores don't come over here and make me sick!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670506</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670386</id>
	<title>Basic Human Rights?</title>
	<author>wjousts</author>
	<datestamp>1269963180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the summary:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason, and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights."'"</p> </div><p>Ok, so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all. But really? Running a router is now a basic human right? A little melodramatic don't you think?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the summary : " I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason , and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights .
" ' " Ok , so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all .
But really ?
Running a router is now a basic human right ?
A little melodramatic do n't you think ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the summary:"I feel as if my life and liberty are under attack for no valid reason, and it has forced me to have to defend my very basic human rights.
"'" Ok, so the guy filing the suit is a moron and the suit has no technical merit at all.
But really?
Running a router is now a basic human right?
A little melodramatic don't you think?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670374</id>
	<title>use UTP then</title>
	<author>dshk</author>
	<datestamp>1269963120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As if it was so extremely difficult to use UTP cables... Maybe his neighbor really have physical problems, maybe only he think it. Good neighborhood worth such small thing. And UTP is safer, more reliable and faster. But no, they visit the court instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As if it was so extremely difficult to use UTP cables... Maybe his neighbor really have physical problems , maybe only he think it .
Good neighborhood worth such small thing .
And UTP is safer , more reliable and faster .
But no , they visit the court instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As if it was so extremely difficult to use UTP cables... Maybe his neighbor really have physical problems, maybe only he think it.
Good neighborhood worth such small thing.
And UTP is safer, more reliable and faster.
But no, they visit the court instead.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670200</id>
	<title>Mercy</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1269962580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect that the plaintiff is suffering from some significant mental health issues.  Maybe paranoia or hypochondria or something.  My guess is that this guy isn't suing because he's a jerk, but because he thinks the issue is real.</p><p>Hopefully the suit will be dismissed with a minimum of fuss and expense, and the guy can get the help he probably needs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect that the plaintiff is suffering from some significant mental health issues .
Maybe paranoia or hypochondria or something .
My guess is that this guy is n't suing because he 's a jerk , but because he thinks the issue is real.Hopefully the suit will be dismissed with a minimum of fuss and expense , and the guy can get the help he probably needs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect that the plaintiff is suffering from some significant mental health issues.
Maybe paranoia or hypochondria or something.
My guess is that this guy isn't suing because he's a jerk, but because he thinks the issue is real.Hopefully the suit will be dismissed with a minimum of fuss and expense, and the guy can get the help he probably needs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670360</id>
	<title>Um...</title>
	<author>hcmtnbiker</author>
	<datestamp>1269963060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I really enjoyed the cell phone usage was one of the complaints.  Someone better not tell this guy that cell towers are omnidirectional so he'll experience that radiation regardless.
<br> <br>
If he truly had an EM sensitivity, the odds of it existing on a higher wavelength(like 2.4Ghz) than visible light and on the lower wavelengths(like UV which affects everyone) are incredibly low without visible light affecting him as well.  If visible light did affect him as well I think it would be very hard for a successful law suit unless he wanted to sue the sun as well.(and oh yea, the sun gives off far more things then his neighbors wifi, like trillions of neutrinos that pass through your body every second.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really enjoyed the cell phone usage was one of the complaints .
Someone better not tell this guy that cell towers are omnidirectional so he 'll experience that radiation regardless .
If he truly had an EM sensitivity , the odds of it existing on a higher wavelength ( like 2.4Ghz ) than visible light and on the lower wavelengths ( like UV which affects everyone ) are incredibly low without visible light affecting him as well .
If visible light did affect him as well I think it would be very hard for a successful law suit unless he wanted to sue the sun as well .
( and oh yea , the sun gives off far more things then his neighbors wifi , like trillions of neutrinos that pass through your body every second .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really enjoyed the cell phone usage was one of the complaints.
Someone better not tell this guy that cell towers are omnidirectional so he'll experience that radiation regardless.
If he truly had an EM sensitivity, the odds of it existing on a higher wavelength(like 2.4Ghz) than visible light and on the lower wavelengths(like UV which affects everyone) are incredibly low without visible light affecting him as well.
If visible light did affect him as well I think it would be very hard for a successful law suit unless he wanted to sue the sun as well.
(and oh yea, the sun gives off far more things then his neighbors wifi, like trillions of neutrinos that pass through your body every second.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670826</id>
	<title>Re:Picture in the summary has it right</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1269964500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, they pour apricot yogurt down my chimney every night when I'm asleep. Bastards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , they pour apricot yogurt down my chimney every night when I 'm asleep .
Bastards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, they pour apricot yogurt down my chimney every night when I'm asleep.
Bastards.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670506</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671602</id>
	<title>Re:So presumably a lawyer took this case</title>
	<author>Antony-Kyre</author>
	<datestamp>1269966780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe change the law. Maybe require the plantiff to put up like 1\% of the amount being sued as a fee. If it is thrown out, being frivolous, the defendant receives the fee. That is...<br>Person A sues Person B for $500k.<br>Person A must put up $5k in good faith that the lawsuit isn't frivolous.<br>If the judge throws it out, believing it is frivolous, then Person B receives that $5k Person A put up.<br>Otherwise, if it goes to trial, Person A receives that money back immediately.<br>Trial commenses, and whatever is decided, is decided.</p><p>Or, maybe, countersue for lawyer fees?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe change the law .
Maybe require the plantiff to put up like 1 \ % of the amount being sued as a fee .
If it is thrown out , being frivolous , the defendant receives the fee .
That is...Person A sues Person B for $ 500k.Person A must put up $ 5k in good faith that the lawsuit is n't frivolous.If the judge throws it out , believing it is frivolous , then Person B receives that $ 5k Person A put up.Otherwise , if it goes to trial , Person A receives that money back immediately.Trial commenses , and whatever is decided , is decided.Or , maybe , countersue for lawyer fees ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe change the law.
Maybe require the plantiff to put up like 1\% of the amount being sued as a fee.
If it is thrown out, being frivolous, the defendant receives the fee.
That is...Person A sues Person B for $500k.Person A must put up $5k in good faith that the lawsuit isn't frivolous.If the judge throws it out, believing it is frivolous, then Person B receives that $5k Person A put up.Otherwise, if it goes to trial, Person A receives that money back immediately.Trial commenses, and whatever is decided, is decided.Or, maybe, countersue for lawyer fees?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670224</id>
	<title>Voodoo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269962640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm.  So I guess that instead of pins, stick your Firstenberg (plaintiff) voodoo doll in the microwave.</p><p>And yes, there have been cases of people being sued for practicing voodoo and placing curses on others.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm .
So I guess that instead of pins , stick your Firstenberg ( plaintiff ) voodoo doll in the microwave.And yes , there have been cases of people being sued for practicing voodoo and placing curses on others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm.
So I guess that instead of pins, stick your Firstenberg (plaintiff) voodoo doll in the microwave.And yes, there have been cases of people being sued for practicing voodoo and placing curses on others.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670460</id>
	<title>Send that guy over here</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1269963420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a few powerful crystals that absorb electrosmog here for sale. I also sell Bach-flower tinctures that strengthen you against the onslaught of those waves.</p><p>And if you buy that, I also have a beautiful bridge with a top notch view on SF for sale...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a few powerful crystals that absorb electrosmog here for sale .
I also sell Bach-flower tinctures that strengthen you against the onslaught of those waves.And if you buy that , I also have a beautiful bridge with a top notch view on SF for sale.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a few powerful crystals that absorb electrosmog here for sale.
I also sell Bach-flower tinctures that strengthen you against the onslaught of those waves.And if you buy that, I also have a beautiful bridge with a top notch view on SF for sale...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31673528</id>
	<title>Obvious Solution</title>
	<author>Myopic</author>
	<datestamp>1269972540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The WiFi-using neighbor should counter-sue, saying that she, too, is sensitive to electromagnetic signals, except that her symptoms only occur in the *absence* of such signals. Thus, the crazy dude's unwillingness to use WiFi causes her harm.</p><p>Holy shit, it would be infinite recursion of idiocy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The WiFi-using neighbor should counter-sue , saying that she , too , is sensitive to electromagnetic signals , except that her symptoms only occur in the * absence * of such signals .
Thus , the crazy dude 's unwillingness to use WiFi causes her harm.Holy shit , it would be infinite recursion of idiocy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The WiFi-using neighbor should counter-sue, saying that she, too, is sensitive to electromagnetic signals, except that her symptoms only occur in the *absence* of such signals.
Thus, the crazy dude's unwillingness to use WiFi causes her harm.Holy shit, it would be infinite recursion of idiocy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31672324</id>
	<title>Head for the woods.....</title>
	<author>Megus</author>
	<datestamp>1269968760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There was a article in Popular Science recently about a man that was "allergic" to radio waves, here's the link: <a href="http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-02/disconnected" title="popsci.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-02/disconnected</a> [popsci.com]</p><p>So it's not so far-fetched that what he is claiming is indeed possible, however what idiot with this kind of problem would live near people?  Like the guy in the PopSci article I'd be living waaaay out in the woods as far away from cities, towns or villages as possible.  Just my 2 cents anyway...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There was a article in Popular Science recently about a man that was " allergic " to radio waves , here 's the link : http : //www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-02/disconnected [ popsci.com ] So it 's not so far-fetched that what he is claiming is indeed possible , however what idiot with this kind of problem would live near people ?
Like the guy in the PopSci article I 'd be living waaaay out in the woods as far away from cities , towns or villages as possible .
Just my 2 cents anyway.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was a article in Popular Science recently about a man that was "allergic" to radio waves, here's the link: http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-02/disconnected [popsci.com]So it's not so far-fetched that what he is claiming is indeed possible, however what idiot with this kind of problem would live near people?
Like the guy in the PopSci article I'd be living waaaay out in the woods as far away from cities, towns or villages as possible.
Just my 2 cents anyway...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671702</id>
	<title>Re:The waves are everywhere!</title>
	<author>dbet</author>
	<datestamp>1269967020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>GPS's, Cell Phones, Watches</p></div><p>Years ago working in a lab, after doing an experiment involving radioisotopes, I was doing a routine scan of my work area.  My co-worker's hand was coming up hot.  She took off her gloves and scanned again, still hot.  Not just barely either, this was tipping our counter way past its max sensitivity.  She scrubber her hands and it wouldn't go away.  It took us a few minutes to realize... it was her watch.  Apparently the glow on the hands is some kind of uranium or something.<br> <br>What's interesting is that the amount being emitted into her wrist every day was probably more than the amount of job-related radioactivity we were allowed to be exposed to in a month.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>GPS 's , Cell Phones , WatchesYears ago working in a lab , after doing an experiment involving radioisotopes , I was doing a routine scan of my work area .
My co-worker 's hand was coming up hot .
She took off her gloves and scanned again , still hot .
Not just barely either , this was tipping our counter way past its max sensitivity .
She scrubber her hands and it would n't go away .
It took us a few minutes to realize... it was her watch .
Apparently the glow on the hands is some kind of uranium or something .
What 's interesting is that the amount being emitted into her wrist every day was probably more than the amount of job-related radioactivity we were allowed to be exposed to in a month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GPS's, Cell Phones, WatchesYears ago working in a lab, after doing an experiment involving radioisotopes, I was doing a routine scan of my work area.
My co-worker's hand was coming up hot.
She took off her gloves and scanned again, still hot.
Not just barely either, this was tipping our counter way past its max sensitivity.
She scrubber her hands and it wouldn't go away.
It took us a few minutes to realize... it was her watch.
Apparently the glow on the hands is some kind of uranium or something.
What's interesting is that the amount being emitted into her wrist every day was probably more than the amount of job-related radioactivity we were allowed to be exposed to in a month.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670578</id>
	<title>Can you even sue your neighbor for this stuff?</title>
	<author>HockeyPuck</author>
	<datestamp>1269963840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you successfully sue your neighbor for other types of activities that cross the border between the properties?  If you cook with some strong stuff (curries, bbq, peanuts) and the fumes from these foods makes him sick, can he actually win against you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you successfully sue your neighbor for other types of activities that cross the border between the properties ?
If you cook with some strong stuff ( curries , bbq , peanuts ) and the fumes from these foods makes him sick , can he actually win against you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you successfully sue your neighbor for other types of activities that cross the border between the properties?
If you cook with some strong stuff (curries, bbq, peanuts) and the fumes from these foods makes him sick, can he actually win against you?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31671576</id>
	<title>Re:Mercy</title>
	<author>timholman</author>
	<datestamp>1269966720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>My guess is that this guy isn't suing because he's a jerk, but because he thinks the issue is real.</p></div></blockquote><p>He absolutely thinks it is real.  Mental illness is as real as any physical illness.  On the other hand, the chances of him getting help are essentially nil.  In the first place, you can't convince EMS "sufferers" that it's all in their heads, anymore than you can convince a schizophrenic that the voices aren't real.  Second, he already has a quack doctor who is more than willing to take his money and tell him, "Oh yes, you have a real physical ailment".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is that this guy is n't suing because he 's a jerk , but because he thinks the issue is real.He absolutely thinks it is real .
Mental illness is as real as any physical illness .
On the other hand , the chances of him getting help are essentially nil .
In the first place , you ca n't convince EMS " sufferers " that it 's all in their heads , anymore than you can convince a schizophrenic that the voices are n't real .
Second , he already has a quack doctor who is more than willing to take his money and tell him , " Oh yes , you have a real physical ailment " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is that this guy isn't suing because he's a jerk, but because he thinks the issue is real.He absolutely thinks it is real.
Mental illness is as real as any physical illness.
On the other hand, the chances of him getting help are essentially nil.
In the first place, you can't convince EMS "sufferers" that it's all in their heads, anymore than you can convince a schizophrenic that the voices aren't real.
Second, he already has a quack doctor who is more than willing to take his money and tell him, "Oh yes, you have a real physical ailment".
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31684524</id>
	<title>Exclusion zone distances</title>
	<author>fezzzz</author>
	<datestamp>1270029060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I found software written by EMSS that can <a href="http://www.emssixus.com/index.php" title="emssixus.com" rel="nofollow">simulate the radiation danger zones (ICNIRP standard) around cell phone base stations on buildings </a> [emssixus.com] for anyone interested.  The evaluation version gives some interesting results.  Don't know if it will work for wi-fi, though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I found software written by EMSS that can simulate the radiation danger zones ( ICNIRP standard ) around cell phone base stations on buildings [ emssixus.com ] for anyone interested .
The evaluation version gives some interesting results .
Do n't know if it will work for wi-fi , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I found software written by EMSS that can simulate the radiation danger zones (ICNIRP standard) around cell phone base stations on buildings  [emssixus.com] for anyone interested.
The evaluation version gives some interesting results.
Don't know if it will work for wi-fi, though.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670494</id>
	<title>Re:Homeowner? His responsibility</title>
	<author>slim</author>
	<datestamp>1269963540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For that to work, he'd have to believe that Faraday cages work.<br>Since he clearly has no truck with science, why would he believe that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For that to work , he 'd have to believe that Faraday cages work.Since he clearly has no truck with science , why would he believe that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For that to work, he'd have to believe that Faraday cages work.Since he clearly has no truck with science, why would he believe that?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31683148</id>
	<title>Dealt with this guy before....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269972900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked for an ISP in California where this guy used to live. When we tried to setup WiFi in our town he complained about it to our board and complained to the FCC. The FCC sent investigators out to look at our equipment. The meters they brought showed EM field coming from all kinds of devices in the office (especially when you put the meter up against an CRT display). When the used the meter on our WiFi equipment it didn't even register a signal.</p><p>When he came to the board meeting he made them turn off the wireless microphone in the room.</p><p>When asked about him working on a computer that has a monitor putting off much more EM then the WiFi equipment he said that it hurt him but he suffered through it so that he could do his online research. I'm really glad he is Sante Fe's problem and not ours anymore!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked for an ISP in California where this guy used to live .
When we tried to setup WiFi in our town he complained about it to our board and complained to the FCC .
The FCC sent investigators out to look at our equipment .
The meters they brought showed EM field coming from all kinds of devices in the office ( especially when you put the meter up against an CRT display ) .
When the used the meter on our WiFi equipment it did n't even register a signal.When he came to the board meeting he made them turn off the wireless microphone in the room.When asked about him working on a computer that has a monitor putting off much more EM then the WiFi equipment he said that it hurt him but he suffered through it so that he could do his online research .
I 'm really glad he is Sante Fe 's problem and not ours anymore !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked for an ISP in California where this guy used to live.
When we tried to setup WiFi in our town he complained about it to our board and complained to the FCC.
The FCC sent investigators out to look at our equipment.
The meters they brought showed EM field coming from all kinds of devices in the office (especially when you put the meter up against an CRT display).
When the used the meter on our WiFi equipment it didn't even register a signal.When he came to the board meeting he made them turn off the wireless microphone in the room.When asked about him working on a computer that has a monitor putting off much more EM then the WiFi equipment he said that it hurt him but he suffered through it so that he could do his online research.
I'm really glad he is Sante Fe's problem and not ours anymore!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1334227.31670688</id>
	<title>Re:She should have turned-off the devices</title>
	<author>osgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1269964140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't doubt that he uses a laptop or other wifi detecting device to know that his neighbor has wifi.  He probably saw her using her iPhone and it made him feel sick.  He has problems, but it's doubtful that the EMR is the direct source of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't doubt that he uses a laptop or other wifi detecting device to know that his neighbor has wifi .
He probably saw her using her iPhone and it made him feel sick .
He has problems , but it 's doubtful that the EMR is the direct source of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't doubt that he uses a laptop or other wifi detecting device to know that his neighbor has wifi.
He probably saw her using her iPhone and it made him feel sick.
He has problems, but it's doubtful that the EMR is the direct source of them.</sentencetext>
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