<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_29_2142255</id>
	<title>Warner Brothers Hiring Undercover Anti-Pirates</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1269862140000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"TorrentFreak reports that Warner Brothers UK is hiring college students with an IT background to participate in an internship that will pit them against pirates on the Web in <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/warner-bros-recruits-students-to-spy-on-pirates-100329/">an effort to crack down on illegal digital distribution</a>. The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content, ensnaring users in incriminating transactions, issuing takedown requests, and causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " TorrentFreak reports that Warner Brothers UK is hiring college students with an IT background to participate in an internship that will pit them against pirates on the Web in an effort to crack down on illegal digital distribution .
The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content , ensnaring users in incriminating transactions , issuing takedown requests , and causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "TorrentFreak reports that Warner Brothers UK is hiring college students with an IT background to participate in an internship that will pit them against pirates on the Web in an effort to crack down on illegal digital distribution.
The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content, ensnaring users in incriminating transactions, issuing takedown requests, and causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664690</id>
	<title>Re:Traitors beware!</title>
	<author>calmofthestorm</author>
	<datestamp>1269869580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's one possible outcome and I couldn't agree more. Here's another, however: <a href="http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-double-agents-d-day-victory.htm" title="historynet.com">http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-double-agents-d-day-victory.htm</a> [historynet.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's one possible outcome and I could n't agree more .
Here 's another , however : http : //www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-double-agents-d-day-victory.htm [ historynet.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's one possible outcome and I couldn't agree more.
Here's another, however: http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-double-agents-d-day-victory.htm [historynet.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664450</id>
	<title>Traitors beware!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269868320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My grandmother told me, that when the Nazis took over Luxemburg (our country), there were people who collaborated with the Nazis. They were called &ldquo;Gielem&#228;nnchen&ldquo; (yellow mankins), and often wore yellow rain coats. Everyone hated them.</p><p>Wanna know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone?<br>They were brutally killed by the villagers. Every single one of them. Often in cruel ways and with blunt objects.</p><p>So beware, if you dare to collaborate with the enemy. Cause they might not be there, when we come for you later.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My grandmother told me , that when the Nazis took over Luxemburg ( our country ) , there were people who collaborated with the Nazis .
They were called    Gielem   nnchen    ( yellow mankins ) , and often wore yellow rain coats .
Everyone hated them.Wan na know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone ? They were brutally killed by the villagers .
Every single one of them .
Often in cruel ways and with blunt objects.So beware , if you dare to collaborate with the enemy .
Cause they might not be there , when we come for you later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My grandmother told me, that when the Nazis took over Luxemburg (our country), there were people who collaborated with the Nazis.
They were called “Gielemännchen“ (yellow mankins), and often wore yellow rain coats.
Everyone hated them.Wanna know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone?They were brutally killed by the villagers.
Every single one of them.
Often in cruel ways and with blunt objects.So beware, if you dare to collaborate with the enemy.
Cause they might not be there, when we come for you later.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664442</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>DeWinterZero</author>
	<datestamp>1269868320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Giving up and offering a lower priced flim ticket or cd wont work either because free will always trump x$ (whatever cost it takes to make a product and give you the money to make another one).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Giving up and offering a lower priced flim ticket or cd wont work either because free will always trump x $ ( whatever cost it takes to make a product and give you the money to make another one ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Giving up and offering a lower priced flim ticket or cd wont work either because free will always trump x$ (whatever cost it takes to make a product and give you the money to make another one).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663994</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664326</id>
	<title>I'm only an amateur grammar nazi...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't that a pretty stupid use of the word "literally"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't that a pretty stupid use of the word " literally " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't that a pretty stupid use of the word "literally"?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664488</id>
	<title>But the question is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269868560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who will the Ninjas side with ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who will the Ninjas side with ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who will the Ninjas side with ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665724</id>
	<title>media companies need to change.</title>
	<author>Dan667</author>
	<datestamp>1269876600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The media companies bad business model is not everyone's problem.  The media companies treating their Customers like Criminals is bad business and they should pay the consequences.  I am surprised their is not more pressure by their stockholders to end this kind of bad business.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The media companies bad business model is not everyone 's problem .
The media companies treating their Customers like Criminals is bad business and they should pay the consequences .
I am surprised their is not more pressure by their stockholders to end this kind of bad business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The media companies bad business model is not everyone's problem.
The media companies treating their Customers like Criminals is bad business and they should pay the consequences.
I am surprised their is not more pressure by their stockholders to end this kind of bad business.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665326</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1269873960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It all sound like fun and profits for a college student, till the social stigma of working for "the man" takes a bite out of the sex, parties, friends and fun that college is all about. You may as well work for the skinheads, Jehovahs Witnesses or the police. The money won't help when even hookers turn you down. At most I figure WB will get about 3 lifeless subnerds to halfheartedly work for a week or two. Warner Brothers hasn't had a good idea since the invention of Daffy Duck. They also haven't had a hit to equal D.Duck singing " The merry go round broke down". Nothing to protect, no one to work for them, it's a non issue and just so much flatulence from their Nazi Division. If it sounds like a fart and smells like a fart...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It all sound like fun and profits for a college student , till the social stigma of working for " the man " takes a bite out of the sex , parties , friends and fun that college is all about .
You may as well work for the skinheads , Jehovahs Witnesses or the police .
The money wo n't help when even hookers turn you down .
At most I figure WB will get about 3 lifeless subnerds to halfheartedly work for a week or two .
Warner Brothers has n't had a good idea since the invention of Daffy Duck .
They also have n't had a hit to equal D.Duck singing " The merry go round broke down " .
Nothing to protect , no one to work for them , it 's a non issue and just so much flatulence from their Nazi Division .
If it sounds like a fart and smells like a fart.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It all sound like fun and profits for a college student, till the social stigma of working for "the man" takes a bite out of the sex, parties, friends and fun that college is all about.
You may as well work for the skinheads, Jehovahs Witnesses or the police.
The money won't help when even hookers turn you down.
At most I figure WB will get about 3 lifeless subnerds to halfheartedly work for a week or two.
Warner Brothers hasn't had a good idea since the invention of Daffy Duck.
They also haven't had a hit to equal D.Duck singing " The merry go round broke down".
Nothing to protect, no one to work for them, it's a non issue and just so much flatulence from their Nazi Division.
If it sounds like a fart and smells like a fart...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663994</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663994</id>
	<title>A fools errand</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rather than exploit the free publicity and growth of revenue, they fight against the rising tides with their swords.  If the movie and music industries collapse, it will not be due to piracy, but anti-piracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rather than exploit the free publicity and growth of revenue , they fight against the rising tides with their swords .
If the movie and music industries collapse , it will not be due to piracy , but anti-piracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rather than exploit the free publicity and growth of revenue, they fight against the rising tides with their swords.
If the movie and music industries collapse, it will not be due to piracy, but anti-piracy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665872</id>
	<title>Slaves will do anything for a buck</title>
	<author>chord.wav</author>
	<datestamp>1269877800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"I was young and I needed the money" isn't what it used to be...</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I was young and I needed the money " is n't what it used to be.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I was young and I needed the money" isn't what it used to be...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664142</id>
	<title>and when they're found out...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...their names will be posted to a public database, right?</p><p>So that all those nasty pirates sharing the college with them can have a friendly word with them to find out where they went off the beaten track, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...their names will be posted to a public database , right ? So that all those nasty pirates sharing the college with them can have a friendly word with them to find out where they went off the beaten track , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...their names will be posted to a public database, right?So that all those nasty pirates sharing the college with them can have a friendly word with them to find out where they went off the beaten track, right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667234</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Null Perception</author>
	<datestamp>1269892260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ha. Just you wait. Once I build my anti-graviton field generator, all will be subjected to laws governing gravitational freedom (which I invent, and through blackmail of government officials, get passed). Whether you walk, fly off into the heavens or become crushed into the ground is up to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ha .
Just you wait .
Once I build my anti-graviton field generator , all will be subjected to laws governing gravitational freedom ( which I invent , and through blackmail of government officials , get passed ) .
Whether you walk , fly off into the heavens or become crushed into the ground is up to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ha.
Just you wait.
Once I build my anti-graviton field generator, all will be subjected to laws governing gravitational freedom (which I invent, and through blackmail of government officials, get passed).
Whether you walk, fly off into the heavens or become crushed into the ground is up to me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664532</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667220</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269892140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't be so silly. You do know there is a whole world outside slashdot don't you. Not everyone watches their movies on a PC, or knows what VLC is. The prior point was valid. People who pay for movies and pop it into their standard DVD player get shafted relative to someone who has pirated a copy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't be so silly .
You do know there is a whole world outside slashdot do n't you .
Not everyone watches their movies on a PC , or knows what VLC is .
The prior point was valid .
People who pay for movies and pop it into their standard DVD player get shafted relative to someone who has pirated a copy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't be so silly.
You do know there is a whole world outside slashdot don't you.
Not everyone watches their movies on a PC, or knows what VLC is.
The prior point was valid.
People who pay for movies and pop it into their standard DVD player get shafted relative to someone who has pirated a copy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664378</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31668182</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269947820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, look at my receipt - I got charged sales tax, not licensing fees.</p><p>Looks like the state government believes I'm buying the movie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , look at my receipt - I got charged sales tax , not licensing fees.Looks like the state government believes I 'm buying the movie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, look at my receipt - I got charged sales tax, not licensing fees.Looks like the state government believes I'm buying the movie.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664892</id>
	<title>World Media Freedom Day</title>
	<author>zlel</author>
	<datestamp>1269870720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe we should have a world media freedom day or something and have everyone refuse to go to the cinema, or purchase cds,
in honor that behind the industry, there is the artist...

or maybe we should just have a media tax and convert all media industries into public service.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe we should have a world media freedom day or something and have everyone refuse to go to the cinema , or purchase cds , in honor that behind the industry , there is the artist.. . or maybe we should just have a media tax and convert all media industries into public service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe we should have a world media freedom day or something and have everyone refuse to go to the cinema, or purchase cds,
in honor that behind the industry, there is the artist...

or maybe we should just have a media tax and convert all media industries into public service.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667958</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269944640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Getting ready to really get annoyed at these companies, and design something that'll REALLY give the anti-pirates something to think about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Getting ready to really get annoyed at these companies , and design something that 'll REALLY give the anti-pirates something to think about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Getting ready to really get annoyed at these companies, and design something that'll REALLY give the anti-pirates something to think about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31668124</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>downix</author>
	<datestamp>1269946860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Industries which fight their own customers are doomed to failure.  If I, as Mr Big Movie Company, found that my movie xyz was being downloaded by 123 # of people, I'd be finding out a way to get my product to them in an easily accessable and profitable manner, yes?  Scan the downloads to let the pirates do my market research for me before I put a product on Hulu or Youtube, and generate the revenue stream.  Once available there, the majority of the "pirates" vanish, watching it happily on websites, and the revenue stream is maintained.</p><p>I do not say movie piracy is good, or any copyright infingement is, but in todays day and age if you think you can stop the flow of information you are in for a real shock.  However, you can tap that flow of information to serve your needs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Industries which fight their own customers are doomed to failure .
If I , as Mr Big Movie Company , found that my movie xyz was being downloaded by 123 # of people , I 'd be finding out a way to get my product to them in an easily accessable and profitable manner , yes ?
Scan the downloads to let the pirates do my market research for me before I put a product on Hulu or Youtube , and generate the revenue stream .
Once available there , the majority of the " pirates " vanish , watching it happily on websites , and the revenue stream is maintained.I do not say movie piracy is good , or any copyright infingement is , but in todays day and age if you think you can stop the flow of information you are in for a real shock .
However , you can tap that flow of information to serve your needs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Industries which fight their own customers are doomed to failure.
If I, as Mr Big Movie Company, found that my movie xyz was being downloaded by 123 # of people, I'd be finding out a way to get my product to them in an easily accessable and profitable manner, yes?
Scan the downloads to let the pirates do my market research for me before I put a product on Hulu or Youtube, and generate the revenue stream.
Once available there, the majority of the "pirates" vanish, watching it happily on websites, and the revenue stream is maintained.I do not say movie piracy is good, or any copyright infingement is, but in todays day and age if you think you can stop the flow of information you are in for a real shock.
However, you can tap that flow of information to serve your needs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664866</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31669592</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>MrMickS</author>
	<datestamp>1269959760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There are still people starving in this world.  There are people fighting for their lives and their beliefs.  There are human rights violations.  And there is so much else.</p><p>And these people are <b>fighting</b> for the right to overcharge and micromanage your <i>entertainment</i>.</p></div><p>What a load of codswallop. I suppose people are pirating because they can't afford it because they are doing charitable works to help the starving millions or have given all of their non-subsistence income to do the same.</p><p>Wake up and see the real world, because you obviously don't live in it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are still people starving in this world .
There are people fighting for their lives and their beliefs .
There are human rights violations .
And there is so much else.And these people are fighting for the right to overcharge and micromanage your entertainment.What a load of codswallop .
I suppose people are pirating because they ca n't afford it because they are doing charitable works to help the starving millions or have given all of their non-subsistence income to do the same.Wake up and see the real world , because you obviously do n't live in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are still people starving in this world.
There are people fighting for their lives and their beliefs.
There are human rights violations.
And there is so much else.And these people are fighting for the right to overcharge and micromanage your entertainment.What a load of codswallop.
I suppose people are pirating because they can't afford it because they are doing charitable works to help the starving millions or have given all of their non-subsistence income to do the same.Wake up and see the real world, because you obviously don't live in it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665350</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667028</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>purpledinoz</author>
	<datestamp>1269889500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You see, the problem was, the music corps had an oligopoly on distribution, and profits were very easy. They essentially became big fat and lazy. Now that the Internet has crushed their oligopoly, the easy money disappeared, and like any fat lazy person would do if the free food was taken away, they're whining and complaining (through the courts), rather than competing. Of course they don't want to work hard and provide customers more value.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You see , the problem was , the music corps had an oligopoly on distribution , and profits were very easy .
They essentially became big fat and lazy .
Now that the Internet has crushed their oligopoly , the easy money disappeared , and like any fat lazy person would do if the free food was taken away , they 're whining and complaining ( through the courts ) , rather than competing .
Of course they do n't want to work hard and provide customers more value .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You see, the problem was, the music corps had an oligopoly on distribution, and profits were very easy.
They essentially became big fat and lazy.
Now that the Internet has crushed their oligopoly, the easy money disappeared, and like any fat lazy person would do if the free food was taken away, they're whining and complaining (through the courts), rather than competing.
Of course they don't want to work hard and provide customers more value.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664094</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664002</id>
	<title>Doh!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just got a notice from NBC/Universal saying that I infringed their copyright by downloading and sharing a TV show.  This means there will be even more people working against me?! Damn...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just got a notice from NBC/Universal saying that I infringed their copyright by downloading and sharing a TV show .
This means there will be even more people working against me ? !
Damn.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just got a notice from NBC/Universal saying that I infringed their copyright by downloading and sharing a TV show.
This means there will be even more people working against me?!
Damn...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31687516</id>
	<title>Re:say goodbye to friendship</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1270049820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and say hello to BLANKET parties!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and say hello to BLANKET parties !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and say hello to BLANKET parties!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664386</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31670764</id>
	<title>LOL</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1269964320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes because allowing interns access to your systems certainly won't increase piracy....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes because allowing interns access to your systems certainly wo n't increase piracy... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes because allowing interns access to your systems certainly won't increase piracy....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664378</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get a better DVD player. VLC is great at skipping that crap, dealing with scratched discs and upscaling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get a better DVD player .
VLC is great at skipping that crap , dealing with scratched discs and upscaling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get a better DVD player.
VLC is great at skipping that crap, dealing with scratched discs and upscaling.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664696</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>MarkvW</author>
	<datestamp>1269869640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, they gave up. They caved in to your telephone assault!</p><p>I hope we read about you like we read about Jammie Thomas and Joel Tennenbaum!</p><p>Good luck with your "fuck them" legal theory, EINSTEIN.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , they gave up .
They caved in to your telephone assault ! I hope we read about you like we read about Jammie Thomas and Joel Tennenbaum ! Good luck with your " fuck them " legal theory , EINSTEIN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, they gave up.
They caved in to your telephone assault!I hope we read about you like we read about Jammie Thomas and Joel Tennenbaum!Good luck with your "fuck them" legal theory, EINSTEIN.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665432</id>
	<title>I know...</title>
	<author>Shark</author>
	<datestamp>1269874680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... they're all over Slashdot and don't sound nearly nerdy enough!  So much for your cover, sucker!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... they 're all over Slashdot and do n't sound nearly nerdy enough !
So much for your cover , sucker !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... they're all over Slashdot and don't sound nearly nerdy enough!
So much for your cover, sucker!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667180</id>
	<title>Re:Shit job, Shit Pay.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269891660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>This to me reads as "Warner Brothers is ripping off intelligent college students"</i></p><p>If they were intelligent, they wouldn't be getting ripped off, now would they?</p></div><p>I dont think intelligence is generally considered to be a binary attribute.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This to me reads as " Warner Brothers is ripping off intelligent college students " If they were intelligent , they would n't be getting ripped off , now would they ? I dont think intelligence is generally considered to be a binary attribute .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> This to me reads as "Warner Brothers is ripping off intelligent college students"If they were intelligent, they wouldn't be getting ripped off, now would they?I dont think intelligence is generally considered to be a binary attribute.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665376</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664092</id>
	<title>So?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why is this an issue? Warner Brothers does have a legal right to enforce their copyrights. While I would prefer they focus on those that are profiting from unauthorized distribution of copyrighted material, they also have a right to issue take-down notices. What would be unethical would be: uploading copyrighted material and then suing anybody who downloads it. Clearly, if WB themselves are freely distributing it, then they are implicitly granting permission for it to be distributed freely.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is this an issue ?
Warner Brothers does have a legal right to enforce their copyrights .
While I would prefer they focus on those that are profiting from unauthorized distribution of copyrighted material , they also have a right to issue take-down notices .
What would be unethical would be : uploading copyrighted material and then suing anybody who downloads it .
Clearly , if WB themselves are freely distributing it , then they are implicitly granting permission for it to be distributed freely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is this an issue?
Warner Brothers does have a legal right to enforce their copyrights.
While I would prefer they focus on those that are profiting from unauthorized distribution of copyrighted material, they also have a right to issue take-down notices.
What would be unethical would be: uploading copyrighted material and then suing anybody who downloads it.
Clearly, if WB themselves are freely distributing it, then they are implicitly granting permission for it to be distributed freely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664612</id>
	<title>Re:Keep going</title>
	<author>Tassach</author>
	<datestamp>1269869160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's why I'm not worried about this.</p><p>The only people who are going to take a job like this are untalented drones of marginal technical ability who can't get a job elsewhere, especially at the .   Furthermore, peer pressure is going to be enough to discourage most people (talented or not) from getting paid to turn narc / sell out to the man.</p><p>The smart, creative people are going to be on the other side of the fight.</p><p>Anyone with half a brain can tell that the copyright cartels are fighting a losing battle, desperately clinging to a business model that has been rendered obsolete by modern technology.   P2P would largely disappear overnight if there was a legal alternative that offered a perceived benefit (guaranteed quality, good search, high speed download, brand loyalty, etc) over a pirate source.   The studios are unwilling to do that because then they would have to charge prices that are dictated by the market, rather than by monopolistic fiat.</p><p> There will always be some people who will take free over speed or convenience, but there are plenty who won't -- just witness Starbuck's ability to sell a quarter's worth of coffee at a 1000+\% markup.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's why I 'm not worried about this.The only people who are going to take a job like this are untalented drones of marginal technical ability who ca n't get a job elsewhere , especially at the .
Furthermore , peer pressure is going to be enough to discourage most people ( talented or not ) from getting paid to turn narc / sell out to the man.The smart , creative people are going to be on the other side of the fight.Anyone with half a brain can tell that the copyright cartels are fighting a losing battle , desperately clinging to a business model that has been rendered obsolete by modern technology .
P2P would largely disappear overnight if there was a legal alternative that offered a perceived benefit ( guaranteed quality , good search , high speed download , brand loyalty , etc ) over a pirate source .
The studios are unwilling to do that because then they would have to charge prices that are dictated by the market , rather than by monopolistic fiat .
There will always be some people who will take free over speed or convenience , but there are plenty who wo n't -- just witness Starbuck 's ability to sell a quarter 's worth of coffee at a 1000 + \ % markup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's why I'm not worried about this.The only people who are going to take a job like this are untalented drones of marginal technical ability who can't get a job elsewhere, especially at the .
Furthermore, peer pressure is going to be enough to discourage most people (talented or not) from getting paid to turn narc / sell out to the man.The smart, creative people are going to be on the other side of the fight.Anyone with half a brain can tell that the copyright cartels are fighting a losing battle, desperately clinging to a business model that has been rendered obsolete by modern technology.
P2P would largely disappear overnight if there was a legal alternative that offered a perceived benefit (guaranteed quality, good search, high speed download, brand loyalty, etc) over a pirate source.
The studios are unwilling to do that because then they would have to charge prices that are dictated by the market, rather than by monopolistic fiat.
There will always be some people who will take free over speed or convenience, but there are plenty who won't -- just witness Starbuck's ability to sell a quarter's worth of coffee at a 1000+\% markup.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31678002</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269945360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anti-piracy warnings?  Agreed.  People who are illegally downloading are not getting the unskippable nonsense so these messages are just giving an annoying sermon to people who already bought the disc.  Get rid of them ASAP.</p><p>Commercials and trailers?  I'm willing to concede to having them on the disc as long as they are <i>optional</i>.  Put them in a special features section or, if you must have them at the beginning of the disc, let people skip them!</p><p>Region locking?  With the distribution methods that exist today they have to enforce region locking.  However, we've had a working global market for over a decade and the sooner that companies do away with region licensing the better off we will all be.</p><p>Double dipping?  Yea, this is a scumbag tactic.  Instead of trying to get product to the widest possible audience to make more money, they decide to squeeze more money from the people who already support them thus angering their core audience.  Very short sighted.</p><p>Interactive menus?  This has been around since the dawn of DVD where it was one of those "features" right along side of things like chapter selection or subtitles.  It's made even worse when you are using a computer based player and have to find where the clickable area is due to their mystery meat navigation.  Some people like it though so if they must stay then they better damn well be optional.</p><p>But hey, what do we know?  We're just consumers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anti-piracy warnings ?
Agreed. People who are illegally downloading are not getting the unskippable nonsense so these messages are just giving an annoying sermon to people who already bought the disc .
Get rid of them ASAP.Commercials and trailers ?
I 'm willing to concede to having them on the disc as long as they are optional .
Put them in a special features section or , if you must have them at the beginning of the disc , let people skip them ! Region locking ?
With the distribution methods that exist today they have to enforce region locking .
However , we 've had a working global market for over a decade and the sooner that companies do away with region licensing the better off we will all be.Double dipping ?
Yea , this is a scumbag tactic .
Instead of trying to get product to the widest possible audience to make more money , they decide to squeeze more money from the people who already support them thus angering their core audience .
Very short sighted.Interactive menus ?
This has been around since the dawn of DVD where it was one of those " features " right along side of things like chapter selection or subtitles .
It 's made even worse when you are using a computer based player and have to find where the clickable area is due to their mystery meat navigation .
Some people like it though so if they must stay then they better damn well be optional.But hey , what do we know ?
We 're just consumers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anti-piracy warnings?
Agreed.  People who are illegally downloading are not getting the unskippable nonsense so these messages are just giving an annoying sermon to people who already bought the disc.
Get rid of them ASAP.Commercials and trailers?
I'm willing to concede to having them on the disc as long as they are optional.
Put them in a special features section or, if you must have them at the beginning of the disc, let people skip them!Region locking?
With the distribution methods that exist today they have to enforce region locking.
However, we've had a working global market for over a decade and the sooner that companies do away with region licensing the better off we will all be.Double dipping?
Yea, this is a scumbag tactic.
Instead of trying to get product to the widest possible audience to make more money, they decide to squeeze more money from the people who already support them thus angering their core audience.
Very short sighted.Interactive menus?
This has been around since the dawn of DVD where it was one of those "features" right along side of things like chapter selection or subtitles.
It's made even worse when you are using a computer based player and have to find where the clickable area is due to their mystery meat navigation.
Some people like it though so if they must stay then they better damn well be optional.But hey, what do we know?
We're just consumers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664882</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666900</id>
	<title>Arr! There be a name fer this</title>
	<author>Errtu76</author>
	<datestamp>1269888180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mutiny!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mutiny !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mutiny!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666280</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>TheGratefulNet</author>
	<datestamp>1269881700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ianal, but can't you condemn people by the language they use?  especially if they use it over and over?</p><p>the tv ads say "own it on dvd, today!"</p><p>own it.</p><p>their own words.</p><p>some lawyer SHOULD be using this in their defense.  keep saying 'own it!' and you lose the right to make it 'oh no, its not ownable its just licenseable'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ianal , but ca n't you condemn people by the language they use ?
especially if they use it over and over ? the tv ads say " own it on dvd , today !
" own it.their own words.some lawyer SHOULD be using this in their defense .
keep saying 'own it !
' and you lose the right to make it 'oh no , its not ownable its just licenseable' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ianal, but can't you condemn people by the language they use?
especially if they use it over and over?the tv ads say "own it on dvd, today!
"own it.their own words.some lawyer SHOULD be using this in their defense.
keep saying 'own it!
' and you lose the right to make it 'oh no, its not ownable its just licenseable'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665124</id>
	<title>$$$$ hhmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269872160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>UH, How much do they pay?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>UH , How much do they pay ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UH, How much do they pay?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665864</id>
	<title>Hmmm... what's missing from the job description?</title>
	<author>seeker\_1us</author>
	<datestamp>1269877740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Nowhere does it say anything about verifying that the employer has any legal rights to the alleged "pirate" material.
</p><blockquote><div><p>During the 12 month internship, duties will include: monitoring local Internet forums and IRC for pirated WB and NBCU content and in order to gather information on pirate sites, pirate groups and other pirate activities; finding new and maintaining existing accounts on private sites; scanning for links to hosted pirated WB and NBCU content and using tools to issue takedown requests; maintaining and developing bots for Internet link scanning system (training provided); preparing sending of infringement notices and logging feedback; performing trap purchases of pirated product and logging results; inputting pirate hard goods data and other intelligence into the forensics database; selecting local keywords and submitting local filenames for monitoring and countermeasure campaigns and periodically producing research documents on piracy related technological developments. Various training will be provided.</p></div>
</blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nowhere does it say anything about verifying that the employer has any legal rights to the alleged " pirate " material .
During the 12 month internship , duties will include : monitoring local Internet forums and IRC for pirated WB and NBCU content and in order to gather information on pirate sites , pirate groups and other pirate activities ; finding new and maintaining existing accounts on private sites ; scanning for links to hosted pirated WB and NBCU content and using tools to issue takedown requests ; maintaining and developing bots for Internet link scanning system ( training provided ) ; preparing sending of infringement notices and logging feedback ; performing trap purchases of pirated product and logging results ; inputting pirate hard goods data and other intelligence into the forensics database ; selecting local keywords and submitting local filenames for monitoring and countermeasure campaigns and periodically producing research documents on piracy related technological developments .
Various training will be provided .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Nowhere does it say anything about verifying that the employer has any legal rights to the alleged "pirate" material.
During the 12 month internship, duties will include: monitoring local Internet forums and IRC for pirated WB and NBCU content and in order to gather information on pirate sites, pirate groups and other pirate activities; finding new and maintaining existing accounts on private sites; scanning for links to hosted pirated WB and NBCU content and using tools to issue takedown requests; maintaining and developing bots for Internet link scanning system (training provided); preparing sending of infringement notices and logging feedback; performing trap purchases of pirated product and logging results; inputting pirate hard goods data and other intelligence into the forensics database; selecting local keywords and submitting local filenames for monitoring and countermeasure campaigns and periodically producing research documents on piracy related technological developments.
Various training will be provided.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664296</id>
	<title>House slave and Field slave</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So now the slavemaster creates the house slave to pit against the field slave</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So now the slavemaster creates the house slave to pit against the field slave</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now the slavemaster creates the house slave to pit against the field slave</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664302</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>those would be the interns that end up posting information from these companies on wikileaks showing that they are doing illegal things... ah to the companies that think us geeks care about company loyalty... yeah you pay their cheques... and yeah, we can get cheques elsewhere</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>those would be the interns that end up posting information from these companies on wikileaks showing that they are doing illegal things... ah to the companies that think us geeks care about company loyalty... yeah you pay their cheques... and yeah , we can get cheques elsewhere</tokentext>
<sentencetext>those would be the interns that end up posting information from these companies on wikileaks showing that they are doing illegal things... ah to the companies that think us geeks care about company loyalty... yeah you pay their cheques... and yeah, we can get cheques elsewhere</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664134</id>
	<title>Shit job, Shit Pay.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This to me reads as "Warner Brothers is ripping off intelligent college students"</p><p>Keep your shitty check. If you want to pay people to do your dirty work, you better pay them a damn good wage.</p><p>I dont know of any US or UK mercenaries who work for minimum wage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This to me reads as " Warner Brothers is ripping off intelligent college students " Keep your shitty check .
If you want to pay people to do your dirty work , you better pay them a damn good wage.I dont know of any US or UK mercenaries who work for minimum wage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This to me reads as "Warner Brothers is ripping off intelligent college students"Keep your shitty check.
If you want to pay people to do your dirty work, you better pay them a damn good wage.I dont know of any US or UK mercenaries who work for minimum wage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665808</id>
	<title>Re:They keep spending money on this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269877200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The entertainment industry is good at one thing- they sure know how to entertain us for FREE! The more they schemes they come up with the more stuff they give us to read about on slashdot! I wonder when they are going to sue Slashdot?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The entertainment industry is good at one thing- they sure know how to entertain us for FREE !
The more they schemes they come up with the more stuff they give us to read about on slashdot !
I wonder when they are going to sue Slashdot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The entertainment industry is good at one thing- they sure know how to entertain us for FREE!
The more they schemes they come up with the more stuff they give us to read about on slashdot!
I wonder when they are going to sue Slashdot?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664212</id>
	<title>They are fighting nature</title>
	<author>erroneus</author>
	<datestamp>1269867120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When fighting nature, either nature always wins or everyone loses.  In this case, they are fighting artistic and entertainment nature.  Art and entertainment need to be free and need to be shared.  It is an important part of what it means to be a human being.  What big media is doing is wrong in the sense that they think they can control and limit and even "bottle up" art and entertainment to maximize their profits.</p><p>What people are doing with their collecting and sharing is natural human behavior.  It doesn't feel like a "crime" to most people to share because it's quite natural and it's everywhere.</p><p>And please, I have heard the arguments before "but people wouldn't create if there were no money in it!"  Pure nonsense.  Fan films and other amateur work if littering the internet like never before.  People love creating and building and showing off.  They don't do it for money.  They do it for attention or as an outlet or just to make people smile.  Yes, there are many who are attracted to the media market because there is a lot of money to be made, but that's not why the TALENTED people do it... just the greedy ones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When fighting nature , either nature always wins or everyone loses .
In this case , they are fighting artistic and entertainment nature .
Art and entertainment need to be free and need to be shared .
It is an important part of what it means to be a human being .
What big media is doing is wrong in the sense that they think they can control and limit and even " bottle up " art and entertainment to maximize their profits.What people are doing with their collecting and sharing is natural human behavior .
It does n't feel like a " crime " to most people to share because it 's quite natural and it 's everywhere.And please , I have heard the arguments before " but people would n't create if there were no money in it !
" Pure nonsense .
Fan films and other amateur work if littering the internet like never before .
People love creating and building and showing off .
They do n't do it for money .
They do it for attention or as an outlet or just to make people smile .
Yes , there are many who are attracted to the media market because there is a lot of money to be made , but that 's not why the TALENTED people do it... just the greedy ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When fighting nature, either nature always wins or everyone loses.
In this case, they are fighting artistic and entertainment nature.
Art and entertainment need to be free and need to be shared.
It is an important part of what it means to be a human being.
What big media is doing is wrong in the sense that they think they can control and limit and even "bottle up" art and entertainment to maximize their profits.What people are doing with their collecting and sharing is natural human behavior.
It doesn't feel like a "crime" to most people to share because it's quite natural and it's everywhere.And please, I have heard the arguments before "but people wouldn't create if there were no money in it!
"  Pure nonsense.
Fan films and other amateur work if littering the internet like never before.
People love creating and building and showing off.
They don't do it for money.
They do it for attention or as an outlet or just to make people smile.
Yes, there are many who are attracted to the media market because there is a lot of money to be made, but that's not why the TALENTED people do it... just the greedy ones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664044</id>
	<title>Keep going</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want some serious action to encourage the development of the completely anonymous protocols.</p><p>Keep pushing, studios.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want some serious action to encourage the development of the completely anonymous protocols.Keep pushing , studios .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want some serious action to encourage the development of the completely anonymous protocols.Keep pushing, studios.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665782</id>
	<title>Antimatter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269877020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If a pirate and an anti-pirate collide, do we get a large release of energy, and could this be a way of powering the planet. No more need for fossil fuels...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If a pirate and an anti-pirate collide , do we get a large release of energy , and could this be a way of powering the planet .
No more need for fossil fuels.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If a pirate and an anti-pirate collide, do we get a large release of energy, and could this be a way of powering the planet.
No more need for fossil fuels...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31670658</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>david\_thornley</author>
	<datestamp>1269964020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I don't get a license.  I haven't found one yet.
</p><p>
What I get is a legal copy of a movie, which I can use in any legal manner.  There are things that I can't do because copyright law would require me to have a license, such as having a public performance and making additional copies beyond a certain point.  This is not because I have a license that says what I can do, it's because I don't have a license.
</p><p>
I don't know where all this nonsense about book and movie licenses comes from.  It's probably from the software industry, where there seems to be a myth that licensing is the only thing that makes unlimited copying and distribution illegal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get a license .
I have n't found one yet .
What I get is a legal copy of a movie , which I can use in any legal manner .
There are things that I ca n't do because copyright law would require me to have a license , such as having a public performance and making additional copies beyond a certain point .
This is not because I have a license that says what I can do , it 's because I do n't have a license .
I do n't know where all this nonsense about book and movie licenses comes from .
It 's probably from the software industry , where there seems to be a myth that licensing is the only thing that makes unlimited copying and distribution illegal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I don't get a license.
I haven't found one yet.
What I get is a legal copy of a movie, which I can use in any legal manner.
There are things that I can't do because copyright law would require me to have a license, such as having a public performance and making additional copies beyond a certain point.
This is not because I have a license that says what I can do, it's because I don't have a license.
I don't know where all this nonsense about book and movie licenses comes from.
It's probably from the software industry, where there seems to be a myth that licensing is the only thing that makes unlimited copying and distribution illegal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31682958</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>Ninth Marion</author>
	<datestamp>1269971220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So many annoyances on DVDs....<br> <br>

Just one is when they show clips from the movie whenever you do something in the menu. I remember sitting down to watch '30 Days of Night' with my brother on DVD. He knew nothing about it but I'd seen it at the theatre, I thought it was a good film. They spend almost half the movie building up the tension to a big reveal as to what the monsters are. There's this dramatic scene where they are finally revealed, it's really good. So I press play and and before it starts the feature it plays that exact scene in its full glory. Thanks, assholes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So many annoyances on DVDs... . Just one is when they show clips from the movie whenever you do something in the menu .
I remember sitting down to watch '30 Days of Night ' with my brother on DVD .
He knew nothing about it but I 'd seen it at the theatre , I thought it was a good film .
They spend almost half the movie building up the tension to a big reveal as to what the monsters are .
There 's this dramatic scene where they are finally revealed , it 's really good .
So I press play and and before it starts the feature it plays that exact scene in its full glory .
Thanks , assholes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So many annoyances on DVDs.... 

Just one is when they show clips from the movie whenever you do something in the menu.
I remember sitting down to watch '30 Days of Night' with my brother on DVD.
He knew nothing about it but I'd seen it at the theatre, I thought it was a good film.
They spend almost half the movie building up the tension to a big reveal as to what the monsters are.
There's this dramatic scene where they are finally revealed, it's really good.
So I press play and and before it starts the feature it plays that exact scene in its full glory.
Thanks, assholes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667076</id>
	<title>Short lifed career</title>
	<author>LostMyBeaver</author>
	<datestamp>1269890160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Taking a pirate and turning them into corporate drones where they have ready availability to free media (I used to get a box of 100 DVDs at a time for free from Warner) makes it so that their pirate instincts turn dull quickly. Fact is, while these guys would be resourceful in the beginning, they would quickly become dead weight since they'd stop thinking like pirates.<br><br>It would make more sense to hire computer science graduates and have the work on the problem from a technical aspect as opposed to the social aspect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Taking a pirate and turning them into corporate drones where they have ready availability to free media ( I used to get a box of 100 DVDs at a time for free from Warner ) makes it so that their pirate instincts turn dull quickly .
Fact is , while these guys would be resourceful in the beginning , they would quickly become dead weight since they 'd stop thinking like pirates.It would make more sense to hire computer science graduates and have the work on the problem from a technical aspect as opposed to the social aspect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Taking a pirate and turning them into corporate drones where they have ready availability to free media (I used to get a box of 100 DVDs at a time for free from Warner) makes it so that their pirate instincts turn dull quickly.
Fact is, while these guys would be resourceful in the beginning, they would quickly become dead weight since they'd stop thinking like pirates.It would make more sense to hire computer science graduates and have the work on the problem from a technical aspect as opposed to the social aspect.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667540</id>
	<title>link-scanning bots!?</title>
	<author>AlgorithMan</author>
	<datestamp>1269982500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the students are supposed to <b>develop link-scanning bots</b>!? These would be worth billions and the students are supposed to develop them for minimum wage?<br>
God, is there anyone, that these fuckheads are not trying to rip off?</htmltext>
<tokenext>the students are supposed to develop link-scanning bots ! ?
These would be worth billions and the students are supposed to develop them for minimum wage ?
God , is there anyone , that these fuckheads are not trying to rip off ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the students are supposed to develop link-scanning bots!?
These would be worth billions and the students are supposed to develop them for minimum wage?
God, is there anyone, that these fuckheads are not trying to rip off?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665792</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1269877140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed.</p><p>Since pirates don't care about DRM once they crack it, it only pisses off legitimate customers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed.Since pirates do n't care about DRM once they crack it , it only pisses off legitimate customers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed.Since pirates don't care about DRM once they crack it, it only pisses off legitimate customers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665078</id>
	<title>Euphemism?</title>
	<author>Comatose51</author>
	<datestamp>1269871920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't "Undercover Anti-Pirates" another way to say "Ninja"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't " Undercover Anti-Pirates " another way to say " Ninja " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't "Undercover Anti-Pirates" another way to say "Ninja"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667258</id>
	<title>Re:They are fighting nature</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269892740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed.</p><p>People spread jokes all the time, even stand-up comedians build their "joke base" among friends and family spreading the joy. It's natural to want to make others happy.</p><p>I don't know what model can be made to make the entertainment industry work. Paying for hours of work is completely reasonable, the problem is actually squeezing all those hours out just build something (quantity vs. quality). I think truly talented people should be "taken care of" meaning that whenever they need "help" they should be helped and made comfortable, not like most celebs you hear about these days, DUI, drugs, wardrobe malfunctions...etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed.People spread jokes all the time , even stand-up comedians build their " joke base " among friends and family spreading the joy .
It 's natural to want to make others happy.I do n't know what model can be made to make the entertainment industry work .
Paying for hours of work is completely reasonable , the problem is actually squeezing all those hours out just build something ( quantity vs. quality ) . I think truly talented people should be " taken care of " meaning that whenever they need " help " they should be helped and made comfortable , not like most celebs you hear about these days , DUI , drugs , wardrobe malfunctions...etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.People spread jokes all the time, even stand-up comedians build their "joke base" among friends and family spreading the joy.
It's natural to want to make others happy.I don't know what model can be made to make the entertainment industry work.
Paying for hours of work is completely reasonable, the problem is actually squeezing all those hours out just build something (quantity vs. quality). I think truly talented people should be "taken care of" meaning that whenever they need "help" they should be helped and made comfortable, not like most celebs you hear about these days, DUI, drugs, wardrobe malfunctions...etc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667656</id>
	<title>It was about time somebody took action</title>
	<author>Optali</author>
	<datestamp>1269940560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Im very proud of Warner Brothersdecision to finally take action and sending somebody to Somalia to fight the pirates!!!
Kudos WB, we all support you!
Give them hell!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Im very proud of Warner Brothersdecision to finally take action and sending somebody to Somalia to fight the pirates ! ! !
Kudos WB , we all support you !
Give them hell !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Im very proud of Warner Brothersdecision to finally take action and sending somebody to Somalia to fight the pirates!!!
Kudos WB, we all support you!
Give them hell!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664678</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>calmofthestorm</author>
	<datestamp>1269869520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is that these are people used to legislating their way to a business model. They have laws to create artifical scarcity, perpetual copyright, and once ACTA passes their own private police and lawyer force on tax dollars. If they viewed it as "competition" they might have a chance.</p><p>Instead, a whole generation of children are being raised with absolutely no respect for the copywrite bullshit. I don't think this is entirely due to the MAFIAA, but they are a contributing factor. Kids look at their BS ads about how "piracy is no different from stealing a tangible good" and realize the facts just don't add up...just like my generation looked at the "smoke marihuana once and become a crack whore" ads from DARE, GREAT, etc. All those lulzy comics about the kid who downloaded a song being dragged into criminal court (technically possible under DMCA but never happened yet -- good luck proving it beyond a reasonable doubt.), it just adds to the cynicism and disillusionment. The vast majority of people just don't give a fuck, and those who do don't tend to swallow this bs.</p><p>I'm not really sure precisely where this is going, but I do have to say that the fundamental disconnect in perception here is going to make for quite the firefight. After all, the internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that these are people used to legislating their way to a business model .
They have laws to create artifical scarcity , perpetual copyright , and once ACTA passes their own private police and lawyer force on tax dollars .
If they viewed it as " competition " they might have a chance.Instead , a whole generation of children are being raised with absolutely no respect for the copywrite bullshit .
I do n't think this is entirely due to the MAFIAA , but they are a contributing factor .
Kids look at their BS ads about how " piracy is no different from stealing a tangible good " and realize the facts just do n't add up...just like my generation looked at the " smoke marihuana once and become a crack whore " ads from DARE , GREAT , etc .
All those lulzy comics about the kid who downloaded a song being dragged into criminal court ( technically possible under DMCA but never happened yet -- good luck proving it beyond a reasonable doubt .
) , it just adds to the cynicism and disillusionment .
The vast majority of people just do n't give a fuck , and those who do do n't tend to swallow this bs.I 'm not really sure precisely where this is going , but I do have to say that the fundamental disconnect in perception here is going to make for quite the firefight .
After all , the internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that these are people used to legislating their way to a business model.
They have laws to create artifical scarcity, perpetual copyright, and once ACTA passes their own private police and lawyer force on tax dollars.
If they viewed it as "competition" they might have a chance.Instead, a whole generation of children are being raised with absolutely no respect for the copywrite bullshit.
I don't think this is entirely due to the MAFIAA, but they are a contributing factor.
Kids look at their BS ads about how "piracy is no different from stealing a tangible good" and realize the facts just don't add up...just like my generation looked at the "smoke marihuana once and become a crack whore" ads from DARE, GREAT, etc.
All those lulzy comics about the kid who downloaded a song being dragged into criminal court (technically possible under DMCA but never happened yet -- good luck proving it beyond a reasonable doubt.
), it just adds to the cynicism and disillusionment.
The vast majority of people just don't give a fuck, and those who do don't tend to swallow this bs.I'm not really sure precisely where this is going, but I do have to say that the fundamental disconnect in perception here is going to make for quite the firefight.
After all, the internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664224</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663990</id>
	<title>My only question is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where are all the anti-anti-pirates?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where are all the anti-anti-pirates ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where are all the anti-anti-pirates?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666266</id>
	<title>Catch-22</title>
	<author>theswimmingbird</author>
	<datestamp>1269881520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The best part of all this will come when the guys who decide to do this work for WB have charges pressed against themselves for p2p.

I mean, really, what self-respecting IT grad would do this kind of shady work?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The best part of all this will come when the guys who decide to do this work for WB have charges pressed against themselves for p2p .
I mean , really , what self-respecting IT grad would do this kind of shady work ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best part of all this will come when the guys who decide to do this work for WB have charges pressed against themselves for p2p.
I mean, really, what self-respecting IT grad would do this kind of shady work?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664416</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>mmelson</author>
	<datestamp>1269868140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Where are all the anti-anti-pirates?</p></div><p>On 4chan.  May as well give them something productive to do.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where are all the anti-anti-pirates ? On 4chan .
May as well give them something productive to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where are all the anti-anti-pirates?On 4chan.
May as well give them something productive to do.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663990</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31678132</id>
	<title>Re:I can already hear it, 10 years from now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269946020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was just following orders.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was just following orders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was just following orders.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665184</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665424</id>
	<title>Re:Traitors beware!</title>
	<author>tecnico.hitos</author>
	<datestamp>1269874620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They were called &ldquo;Gielem&#228;nnchen&ldquo; (yellow mankins), and often wore yellow rain coats. Everyone hated them.</p><p>Wanna know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone?
They were brutally killed by the villagers.</p></div><p>Remember me to never use a yellow raincoat in Luxemburg.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They were called    Gielem   nnchen    ( yellow mankins ) , and often wore yellow rain coats .
Everyone hated them.Wan na know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone ?
They were brutally killed by the villagers.Remember me to never use a yellow raincoat in Luxemburg .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They were called “Gielemännchen“ (yellow mankins), and often wore yellow rain coats.
Everyone hated them.Wanna know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone?
They were brutally killed by the villagers.Remember me to never use a yellow raincoat in Luxemburg.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666824</id>
	<title>Re:Traitors beware!</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1269887700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know, if someone was talking about Americans executing opponents of the government without trial and in a cruel fashion, I don't think it would have gotten scored to +5.  Anyone get a chill up your spine when he said "every single one of them"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , if someone was talking about Americans executing opponents of the government without trial and in a cruel fashion , I do n't think it would have gotten scored to + 5 .
Anyone get a chill up your spine when he said " every single one of them " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, if someone was talking about Americans executing opponents of the government without trial and in a cruel fashion, I don't think it would have gotten scored to +5.
Anyone get a chill up your spine when he said "every single one of them"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664450</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665254</id>
	<title>Re:Shit job, Shit Pay.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269873300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mercenaries? You give this task too much credit. Hired "anti-pirates" are about on the same level as telemarketers and astroturfers.</p><p>(And if Anonymous starts harassing them back, you'll hear the same "but I was just doing my job!" sob stories, too.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mercenaries ?
You give this task too much credit .
Hired " anti-pirates " are about on the same level as telemarketers and astroturfers .
( And if Anonymous starts harassing them back , you 'll hear the same " but I was just doing my job !
" sob stories , too .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mercenaries?
You give this task too much credit.
Hired "anti-pirates" are about on the same level as telemarketers and astroturfers.
(And if Anonymous starts harassing them back, you'll hear the same "but I was just doing my job!
" sob stories, too.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664186</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1269866940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Voddler also infringes on the copyrights of the XBMC developers, not a good sign for a company that wants to make money from copyrights.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Voddler also infringes on the copyrights of the XBMC developers , not a good sign for a company that wants to make money from copyrights .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Voddler also infringes on the copyrights of the XBMC developers, not a good sign for a company that wants to make money from copyrights.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664094</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664208</id>
	<title>Epic?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content</p></div></blockquote><p>
I'm not sure court cases can be described as epic...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content I 'm not sure court cases can be described as epic.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content
I'm not sure court cases can be described as epic...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666362</id>
	<title>clash with college culture?</title>
	<author>deetoy</author>
	<datestamp>1269882600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given the culture of some residential colleges, I'd suggest the recruited anti pirate move off campus. If you thought hazing at some colleges was bad, imagine the consequences of busting your professor for pirating on your assignment and exam grades. Not all college professors follow official university ethics standards, hence the official ethics standards existence.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the culture of some residential colleges , I 'd suggest the recruited anti pirate move off campus .
If you thought hazing at some colleges was bad , imagine the consequences of busting your professor for pirating on your assignment and exam grades .
Not all college professors follow official university ethics standards , hence the official ethics standards existence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the culture of some residential colleges, I'd suggest the recruited anti pirate move off campus.
If you thought hazing at some colleges was bad, imagine the consequences of busting your professor for pirating on your assignment and exam grades.
Not all college professors follow official university ethics standards, hence the official ethics standards existence.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664866</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269870600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Rather than exploit the free publicity and growth of revenue, they fight against the rising tides with their swords. If the movie and music industries collapse, it will not be due to piracy, but anti-piracy.</p></div><p>Why was this modded, "Insightful"? There wasn't anything the least bit interesting, insightful, or even true in it?</p><p>Since when is stealing, "free publicity"? And contrary to your assertions, what proof do you have which indicates stealing directly translates into increased revenue? Furthermore, your "swords" isn't even accurate; its their, "pens." We're talking attorneys, not armies. Lastly, they show no signs of collapse.</p><p>So to summarize, you said, "I still shit because I'm ignorant." And then someone said, "Wow! That's insightful!" If you would stop believing your own BS, you'd be laughing at your post - as I am.</p><p>Good for you!</p><p>"NO OFFICER! I did NOT steal his wallet! I was freely promoting and advertising his spending potential! What?! I get a Scoobie snack?! Wow! Like zoinks! I thought I was in trouble for a second."</p><p>And just FYI, the often claimed "viral boost" pushed by pirates actually have no proof. Thus far, we have equal evidence the "viral boost" actually bring some portion of profits sooner - not more profits. In other words, there is no proof that stealing actually increases sales; only that it may bring profits slighter sooner.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rather than exploit the free publicity and growth of revenue , they fight against the rising tides with their swords .
If the movie and music industries collapse , it will not be due to piracy , but anti-piracy.Why was this modded , " Insightful " ?
There was n't anything the least bit interesting , insightful , or even true in it ? Since when is stealing , " free publicity " ?
And contrary to your assertions , what proof do you have which indicates stealing directly translates into increased revenue ?
Furthermore , your " swords " is n't even accurate ; its their , " pens .
" We 're talking attorneys , not armies .
Lastly , they show no signs of collapse.So to summarize , you said , " I still shit because I 'm ignorant .
" And then someone said , " Wow !
That 's insightful !
" If you would stop believing your own BS , you 'd be laughing at your post - as I am.Good for you !
" NO OFFICER !
I did NOT steal his wallet !
I was freely promoting and advertising his spending potential !
What ? ! I get a Scoobie snack ? !
Wow ! Like zoinks !
I thought I was in trouble for a second .
" And just FYI , the often claimed " viral boost " pushed by pirates actually have no proof .
Thus far , we have equal evidence the " viral boost " actually bring some portion of profits sooner - not more profits .
In other words , there is no proof that stealing actually increases sales ; only that it may bring profits slighter sooner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rather than exploit the free publicity and growth of revenue, they fight against the rising tides with their swords.
If the movie and music industries collapse, it will not be due to piracy, but anti-piracy.Why was this modded, "Insightful"?
There wasn't anything the least bit interesting, insightful, or even true in it?Since when is stealing, "free publicity"?
And contrary to your assertions, what proof do you have which indicates stealing directly translates into increased revenue?
Furthermore, your "swords" isn't even accurate; its their, "pens.
" We're talking attorneys, not armies.
Lastly, they show no signs of collapse.So to summarize, you said, "I still shit because I'm ignorant.
" And then someone said, "Wow!
That's insightful!
" If you would stop believing your own BS, you'd be laughing at your post - as I am.Good for you!
"NO OFFICER!
I did NOT steal his wallet!
I was freely promoting and advertising his spending potential!
What?! I get a Scoobie snack?!
Wow! Like zoinks!
I thought I was in trouble for a second.
"And just FYI, the often claimed "viral boost" pushed by pirates actually have no proof.
Thus far, we have equal evidence the "viral boost" actually bring some portion of profits sooner - not more profits.
In other words, there is no proof that stealing actually increases sales; only that it may bring profits slighter sooner.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664250</id>
	<title>Star Wars, much?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This sounds a lot like "Come to the dark side, we have cookies"</htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds a lot like " Come to the dark side , we have cookies "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds a lot like "Come to the dark side, we have cookies"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665264</id>
	<title>Wrong place to admit to 'piracy'.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269873360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, knowing Visual Basic is what qualifies as an IT background to them.</p><p>If you admit to using BitTorrent on your application, they turn you over to the cops as a pirate infiltrator, even if you only downloaded Linux ISOs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , knowing Visual Basic is what qualifies as an IT background to them.If you admit to using BitTorrent on your application , they turn you over to the cops as a pirate infiltrator , even if you only downloaded Linux ISOs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, knowing Visual Basic is what qualifies as an IT background to them.If you admit to using BitTorrent on your application, they turn you over to the cops as a pirate infiltrator, even if you only downloaded Linux ISOs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664012</id>
	<title>It's A Fight To The Death ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>... on the swashbuckling seas of downloads. <br> <br>

I'd say "let the best pirate win", but I'm afraid it's going to be <b>anti</b>-climactic. The real pirates will swab the decks with these amateur  wanna-be's.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... on the swashbuckling seas of downloads .
I 'd say " let the best pirate win " , but I 'm afraid it 's going to be anti-climactic .
The real pirates will swab the decks with these amateur wan na-be 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... on the swashbuckling seas of downloads.
I'd say "let the best pirate win", but I'm afraid it's going to be anti-climactic.
The real pirates will swab the decks with these amateur  wanna-be's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667048</id>
	<title>Re:They keep spending money on this</title>
	<author>purpledinoz</author>
	<datestamp>1269889680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good, it just means that the current industry will die quicker, so a new industry can be reborn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good , it just means that the current industry will die quicker , so a new industry can be reborn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good, it just means that the current industry will die quicker, so a new industry can be reborn.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666752</id>
	<title>Re:Shit job, Shit Pay.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269886800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I dont know of any US or UK mercenaries who work for minimum wage"</p><p>You obviously haven't seen the job market in the States, lately, have you? While temp agencies may be paid by the client companies the going rate, you better believe the poor schlubs on the ground aren't getting much better than minimum if they're lucky, and you can forget about such luxuries as holiday pay, sick leave, vacation time, etc.<br>---<br>At this point in time, we got 3 options....be obscenely wealthy, be hopelessly broke, or be somewhere else. Option 3's looking REEEEALLY good right now, in spite of the fact that U.S. citizens are becoming popular avenues for someone else's target practice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I dont know of any US or UK mercenaries who work for minimum wage " You obviously have n't seen the job market in the States , lately , have you ?
While temp agencies may be paid by the client companies the going rate , you better believe the poor schlubs on the ground are n't getting much better than minimum if they 're lucky , and you can forget about such luxuries as holiday pay , sick leave , vacation time , etc.---At this point in time , we got 3 options....be obscenely wealthy , be hopelessly broke , or be somewhere else .
Option 3 's looking REEEEALLY good right now , in spite of the fact that U.S. citizens are becoming popular avenues for someone else 's target practice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I dont know of any US or UK mercenaries who work for minimum wage"You obviously haven't seen the job market in the States, lately, have you?
While temp agencies may be paid by the client companies the going rate, you better believe the poor schlubs on the ground aren't getting much better than minimum if they're lucky, and you can forget about such luxuries as holiday pay, sick leave, vacation time, etc.---At this point in time, we got 3 options....be obscenely wealthy, be hopelessly broke, or be somewhere else.
Option 3's looking REEEEALLY good right now, in spite of the fact that U.S. citizens are becoming popular avenues for someone else's target practice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664558</id>
	<title>illegal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269868860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The student is not in authority to essentially sell the University's network access and network information to another business.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The student is not in authority to essentially sell the University 's network access and network information to another business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The student is not in authority to essentially sell the University's network access and network information to another business.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665204</id>
	<title>Re:Traitors beware!</title>
	<author>fyoder</author>
	<datestamp>1269872880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So beware, if you dare to collaborate with the enemy.</p></div><p>I know you're being humorous, but it does feel that way which is kind of sad.  I think most of us would be happy to pay a reasonable price for a non-DRMed copy of a movie we wanted to see.  That is to say, I think most of us are willing to be customers.  In fact, I bought a DVD the other day.  It had two movies on it for ten bucks.  And because I watch DVDs using an open source OS, I don't get the complaints about being forced to watch previews and FBI warnings.  Do DVD players or whatever you watch on really enforce that?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So beware , if you dare to collaborate with the enemy.I know you 're being humorous , but it does feel that way which is kind of sad .
I think most of us would be happy to pay a reasonable price for a non-DRMed copy of a movie we wanted to see .
That is to say , I think most of us are willing to be customers .
In fact , I bought a DVD the other day .
It had two movies on it for ten bucks .
And because I watch DVDs using an open source OS , I do n't get the complaints about being forced to watch previews and FBI warnings .
Do DVD players or whatever you watch on really enforce that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So beware, if you dare to collaborate with the enemy.I know you're being humorous, but it does feel that way which is kind of sad.
I think most of us would be happy to pay a reasonable price for a non-DRMed copy of a movie we wanted to see.
That is to say, I think most of us are willing to be customers.
In fact, I bought a DVD the other day.
It had two movies on it for ten bucks.
And because I watch DVDs using an open source OS, I don't get the complaints about being forced to watch previews and FBI warnings.
Do DVD players or whatever you watch on really enforce that?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665350</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>suomynonAyletamitlU</author>
	<datestamp>1269874080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's all stop for a moment to remember that we are talking about the <i>entertainment</i> industry.  Let that sink in.  Entertainment: <i>something affording pleasure, diversion, or amusement, esp. a performance of some kind</i>. (<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entertainment?r=75&amp;src=ref&amp;ch=dic" title="reference.com" rel="nofollow">ref</a> [reference.com])</p><p>All of these people--RIAA, MPAA, and their equivalents across the world--are fighting tooth and nail because some people do not consider <i>entertainment</i> to be worth the sometimes exorbitant fees required to access it, and because some people get their entertainment and chafe at being told they have to jump through hoops to enjoy it.</p><p>There are still people starving in this world.  There are people fighting for their lives and their beliefs.  There are human rights violations.  And there is so much else.</p><p>And these people are <b>fighting</b> for the right to overcharge and micromanage your <i>entertainment</i>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's all stop for a moment to remember that we are talking about the entertainment industry .
Let that sink in .
Entertainment : something affording pleasure , diversion , or amusement , esp .
a performance of some kind .
( ref [ reference.com ] ) All of these people--RIAA , MPAA , and their equivalents across the world--are fighting tooth and nail because some people do not consider entertainment to be worth the sometimes exorbitant fees required to access it , and because some people get their entertainment and chafe at being told they have to jump through hoops to enjoy it.There are still people starving in this world .
There are people fighting for their lives and their beliefs .
There are human rights violations .
And there is so much else.And these people are fighting for the right to overcharge and micromanage your entertainment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's all stop for a moment to remember that we are talking about the entertainment industry.
Let that sink in.
Entertainment: something affording pleasure, diversion, or amusement, esp.
a performance of some kind.
(ref [reference.com])All of these people--RIAA, MPAA, and their equivalents across the world--are fighting tooth and nail because some people do not consider entertainment to be worth the sometimes exorbitant fees required to access it, and because some people get their entertainment and chafe at being told they have to jump through hoops to enjoy it.There are still people starving in this world.
There are people fighting for their lives and their beliefs.
There are human rights violations.
And there is so much else.And these people are fighting for the right to overcharge and micromanage your entertainment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31668322</id>
	<title>Re:Antimatter</title>
	<author>CyberDragon777</author>
	<datestamp>1269949740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anti-pirate = Ninja</p><p>When the two collide, whatever happens, it will be awesome!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anti-pirate = NinjaWhen the two collide , whatever happens , it will be awesome !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anti-pirate = NinjaWhen the two collide, whatever happens, it will be awesome!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667408</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269981060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In other words, all the things that the pirated versions do <b>right</b>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In other words , all the things that the pirated versions do right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other words, all the things that the pirated versions do right.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666684</id>
	<title>Re:It's A Fight To The Death ...</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1269886080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd say "let the best pirate win", but I'm afraid it's going to be anti-climac<b>^H</b>tic</p></div><p>Don't tease his spaghettiness!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say " let the best pirate win " , but I 'm afraid it 's going to be anti-climac ^ HticDo n't tease his spaghettiness !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say "let the best pirate win", but I'm afraid it's going to be anti-climac^HticDon't tease his spaghettiness!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666670</id>
	<title>"their work"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269885960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>the only work the people who give a shit about piracy do is fuck the artists out of money. There arent too many artists that care, and really those that do, Metallica, should be thankful anyone is even willing to listen to St Anger, its like a homeless guy getting pissed you dropped a dollar in his cup and starts demanding a $10.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the only work the people who give a shit about piracy do is fuck the artists out of money .
There arent too many artists that care , and really those that do , Metallica , should be thankful anyone is even willing to listen to St Anger , its like a homeless guy getting pissed you dropped a dollar in his cup and starts demanding a $ 10 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the only work the people who give a shit about piracy do is fuck the artists out of money.
There arent too many artists that care, and really those that do, Metallica, should be thankful anyone is even willing to listen to St Anger, its like a homeless guy getting pissed you dropped a dollar in his cup and starts demanding a $10.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31683192</id>
	<title>questionable</title>
	<author>ChrisBader</author>
	<datestamp>1269973260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet."
anyone else getting the feeling that all this means is that they are going to be writing viruses and attempting to distribute them to anyone found pirating the films? after all its not like any law enforcement agency is going to take them seriously</htmltext>
<tokenext>" causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet .
" anyone else getting the feeling that all this means is that they are going to be writing viruses and attempting to distribute them to anyone found pirating the films ?
after all its not like any law enforcement agency is going to take them seriously</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet.
"
anyone else getting the feeling that all this means is that they are going to be writing viruses and attempting to distribute them to anyone found pirating the films?
after all its not like any law enforcement agency is going to take them seriously</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31671732</id>
	<title>Re:They keep spending money on this</title>
	<author>harl</author>
	<datestamp>1269967080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they don't spend money on the problem it hurts their case that there is a problem.  This prevents them from buying laws.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they do n't spend money on the problem it hurts their case that there is a problem .
This prevents them from buying laws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they don't spend money on the problem it hurts their case that there is a problem.
This prevents them from buying laws.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664732</id>
	<title>Re:Traitors beware!</title>
	<author>Warclock</author>
	<datestamp>1269869820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My grandmother told me, that when the Nazis took over Luxemburg (our country), there were people who collaborated with the Nazis. They were called &ldquo;Gielem&#228;nnchen&ldquo; (yellow mankins), and often wore yellow rain coats. Everyone hated them.</p><p>Wanna know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone?
They were brutally killed by the villagers. Every single one of them. Often in cruel ways and with blunt objects.</p><p>So beware, if you dare to collaborate with the enemy. Cause they might not be there, when we come for you later.</p></div><p>Traitors in this case will get attacked with blunt objects <b> <i>while</i> </b> walking the plank.  Yar!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My grandmother told me , that when the Nazis took over Luxemburg ( our country ) , there were people who collaborated with the Nazis .
They were called    Gielem   nnchen    ( yellow mankins ) , and often wore yellow rain coats .
Everyone hated them.Wan na know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone ?
They were brutally killed by the villagers .
Every single one of them .
Often in cruel ways and with blunt objects.So beware , if you dare to collaborate with the enemy .
Cause they might not be there , when we come for you later.Traitors in this case will get attacked with blunt objects while walking the plank .
Yar !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My grandmother told me, that when the Nazis took over Luxemburg (our country), there were people who collaborated with the Nazis.
They were called “Gielemännchen“ (yellow mankins), and often wore yellow rain coats.
Everyone hated them.Wanna know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone?
They were brutally killed by the villagers.
Every single one of them.
Often in cruel ways and with blunt objects.So beware, if you dare to collaborate with the enemy.
Cause they might not be there, when we come for you later.Traitors in this case will get attacked with blunt objects  while  walking the plank.
Yar!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666954</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1269888720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good point.</p><p>Hey, I guess by the same token, <b>your</b> employers can always find someone else to do <b>your</b> job, so they should fire <b>you</b> before giving you your paycheque!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good point.Hey , I guess by the same token , your employers can always find someone else to do your job , so they should fire you before giving you your paycheque !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good point.Hey, I guess by the same token, your employers can always find someone else to do your job, so they should fire you before giving you your paycheque!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667088</id>
	<title>Re:They are fighting nature</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269890340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah good idea let's replace all the blockbuster productions by Edwoodish fan films. Sooooooooo coooool!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah good idea let 's replace all the blockbuster productions by Edwoodish fan films .
Sooooooooo coooool !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah good idea let's replace all the blockbuster productions by Edwoodish fan films.
Sooooooooo coooool!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664108</id>
	<title>Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, it might work in the short term.  All content protection, whether through DRM, laws, takedown notices, or any other mechanism is fundamentally founded on the principal that "we're smarter than you are", which in the long term is always an untenable position merely because of the scale involved.  For every one person they employ to defend their copyright, there are a thousand people looking for ways to break whatever measures they put in place.</p><p>For example, it is possible to design a P2P system that does not rely on trackers (e.g. the DHT scheme that TPB uses).  With such a system, content is not hosted anywhere that can get a takedown notice.  Combined with onion routing (crypto), you can also make it highly infeasible to determine who is actually seeding the content, nearly guaranteeing that anyone you attack is an innocent victim, thus making the courts take progressively more negative attitudes towards your attacks.  Put simply, the harder they try to clamp down on P2P, the greater the security measures that will be put in place to thwart it.</p><p>You cannot compete with P2P by attacking it.  You can only compete with it by providing a better experience (or at least a comparable experience) through legal channels for a price that the market is willing to bear.  Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts.  That alone will take a huge chunk out of P2P.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , it might work in the short term .
All content protection , whether through DRM , laws , takedown notices , or any other mechanism is fundamentally founded on the principal that " we 're smarter than you are " , which in the long term is always an untenable position merely because of the scale involved .
For every one person they employ to defend their copyright , there are a thousand people looking for ways to break whatever measures they put in place.For example , it is possible to design a P2P system that does not rely on trackers ( e.g .
the DHT scheme that TPB uses ) .
With such a system , content is not hosted anywhere that can get a takedown notice .
Combined with onion routing ( crypto ) , you can also make it highly infeasible to determine who is actually seeding the content , nearly guaranteeing that anyone you attack is an innocent victim , thus making the courts take progressively more negative attitudes towards your attacks .
Put simply , the harder they try to clamp down on P2P , the greater the security measures that will be put in place to thwart it.You can not compete with P2P by attacking it .
You can only compete with it by providing a better experience ( or at least a comparable experience ) through legal channels for a price that the market is willing to bear .
Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts .
That alone will take a huge chunk out of P2P .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, it might work in the short term.
All content protection, whether through DRM, laws, takedown notices, or any other mechanism is fundamentally founded on the principal that "we're smarter than you are", which in the long term is always an untenable position merely because of the scale involved.
For every one person they employ to defend their copyright, there are a thousand people looking for ways to break whatever measures they put in place.For example, it is possible to design a P2P system that does not rely on trackers (e.g.
the DHT scheme that TPB uses).
With such a system, content is not hosted anywhere that can get a takedown notice.
Combined with onion routing (crypto), you can also make it highly infeasible to determine who is actually seeding the content, nearly guaranteeing that anyone you attack is an innocent victim, thus making the courts take progressively more negative attitudes towards your attacks.
Put simply, the harder they try to clamp down on P2P, the greater the security measures that will be put in place to thwart it.You cannot compete with P2P by attacking it.
You can only compete with it by providing a better experience (or at least a comparable experience) through legal channels for a price that the market is willing to bear.
Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts.
That alone will take a huge chunk out of P2P.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664050</id>
	<title>Could be worse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think I prefer this sort of activity rather than forcing ISPs to do their bidding for no cost to the copyright holder. Or intensive lobbying that hurts everyone. Yeah, it may be a foolish quest to combat copyright infringement, but at least this way of going about it makes some modicum of sense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think I prefer this sort of activity rather than forcing ISPs to do their bidding for no cost to the copyright holder .
Or intensive lobbying that hurts everyone .
Yeah , it may be a foolish quest to combat copyright infringement , but at least this way of going about it makes some modicum of sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think I prefer this sort of activity rather than forcing ISPs to do their bidding for no cost to the copyright holder.
Or intensive lobbying that hurts everyone.
Yeah, it may be a foolish quest to combat copyright infringement, but at least this way of going about it makes some modicum of sense.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664664</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1269869460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Combined with onion routing (crypto), you can also make it highly infeasible to determine who is actually seeding the content, nearly guaranteeing that anyone you attack is an innocent victim, thus making the courts take progressively more negative attitudes towards your attacks.</p></div><p>Useable onion routing is a pipe dream until symmetric highspeed connections are ubiquitous.<br>It's doable in Europe and Asia, where 10/10 and faster connections are the norm, but not so much in the USA.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Combined with onion routing ( crypto ) , you can also make it highly infeasible to determine who is actually seeding the content , nearly guaranteeing that anyone you attack is an innocent victim , thus making the courts take progressively more negative attitudes towards your attacks.Useable onion routing is a pipe dream until symmetric highspeed connections are ubiquitous.It 's doable in Europe and Asia , where 10/10 and faster connections are the norm , but not so much in the USA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Combined with onion routing (crypto), you can also make it highly infeasible to determine who is actually seeding the content, nearly guaranteeing that anyone you attack is an innocent victim, thus making the courts take progressively more negative attitudes towards your attacks.Useable onion routing is a pipe dream until symmetric highspeed connections are ubiquitous.It's doable in Europe and Asia, where 10/10 and faster connections are the norm, but not so much in the USA.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664108</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664650</id>
	<title>Guess what they'll do in their offtime?</title>
	<author>WinstonWolfIT</author>
	<datestamp>1269869400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Create more demand for their service, with any luck converting it into a full-time position.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Create more demand for their service , with any luck converting it into a full-time position .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Create more demand for their service, with any luck converting it into a full-time position.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664074</id>
	<title>Yes. Well...</title>
	<author>Securityemo</author>
	<datestamp>1269866460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/02/20/" title="penny-arcade.com">http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/02/20/</a> [penny-arcade.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/02/20/ [ penny-arcade.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/02/20/ [penny-arcade.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664070</id>
	<title>What qualifies as IT background?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have you ever used BitTorrent?  [X]


--

Congratulations you are hired!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever used BitTorrent ?
[ X ] -- Congratulations you are hired !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever used BitTorrent?
[X]


--

Congratulations you are hired!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664342</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>stonewallred</author>
	<datestamp>1269867720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I got a notice from TWC the other day saying I was downloading copyrighted material. I responded with an email and a phone call demanding to know who was monitoring my downloads, and under what court order they were doing sd. I also accused them of giving my data to unauthorized people. They started backpedaling and stammering, switching me to eight different drones. Finally one said they had received a notice from an unnamed company(to me that is). I demanded to know who the company was and wanted to appeal the notice and threat it contained. In the end I got want I wanted. An email from TWC stating the notification I received was issued in error and that I was not suspected nor accused of downloading any copyrighted material. I saved it on a thumbdrive and fired utorrent back up to finish DLing the entire collection of South Park season 9. Fuck copyright. They broadcast these shows over the fucking airwaves for free and complain about me downloading a copy. Fuck their mothers, wives, daughters and fucking dogs too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got a notice from TWC the other day saying I was downloading copyrighted material .
I responded with an email and a phone call demanding to know who was monitoring my downloads , and under what court order they were doing sd .
I also accused them of giving my data to unauthorized people .
They started backpedaling and stammering , switching me to eight different drones .
Finally one said they had received a notice from an unnamed company ( to me that is ) .
I demanded to know who the company was and wanted to appeal the notice and threat it contained .
In the end I got want I wanted .
An email from TWC stating the notification I received was issued in error and that I was not suspected nor accused of downloading any copyrighted material .
I saved it on a thumbdrive and fired utorrent back up to finish DLing the entire collection of South Park season 9 .
Fuck copyright .
They broadcast these shows over the fucking airwaves for free and complain about me downloading a copy .
Fuck their mothers , wives , daughters and fucking dogs too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got a notice from TWC the other day saying I was downloading copyrighted material.
I responded with an email and a phone call demanding to know who was monitoring my downloads, and under what court order they were doing sd.
I also accused them of giving my data to unauthorized people.
They started backpedaling and stammering, switching me to eight different drones.
Finally one said they had received a notice from an unnamed company(to me that is).
I demanded to know who the company was and wanted to appeal the notice and threat it contained.
In the end I got want I wanted.
An email from TWC stating the notification I received was issued in error and that I was not suspected nor accused of downloading any copyrighted material.
I saved it on a thumbdrive and fired utorrent back up to finish DLing the entire collection of South Park season 9.
Fuck copyright.
They broadcast these shows over the fucking airwaves for free and complain about me downloading a copy.
Fuck their mothers, wives, daughters and fucking dogs too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31676838</id>
	<title>Re:I can already hear it, 10 years from now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269941280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980307</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/ ? id = 19980307</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980307</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665184</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664698</id>
	<title>Re:Traitors beware!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269869640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Er, yeah.. That sounds way better than what the Nazis did...?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Er , yeah.. That sounds way better than what the Nazis did... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Er, yeah.. That sounds way better than what the Nazis did...?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665094</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269871980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Information is free, a product produced with that information is not if someone chooses. Nice dream though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Information is free , a product produced with that information is not if someone chooses .
Nice dream though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Information is free, a product produced with that information is not if someone chooses.
Nice dream though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665650</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1269876120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Until the courts rule that using Tor is aiding and abetting by willfully allowing total strangers to route through your computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Until the courts rule that using Tor is aiding and abetting by willfully allowing total strangers to route through your computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until the courts rule that using Tor is aiding and abetting by willfully allowing total strangers to route through your computer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664108</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664094</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not a competition. What they should do is offer <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotify" title="wikipedia.org">Spotify</a> [wikipedia.org] like service for movies <i>all around the world</i>, not just in US, and either ad-supported version or $10-$19 per month paid subscription with perks like PS3 and mobile streaming and so on. After Spotify came around 1.5 years ago people haven't had a need to pirate MP3's anymore. It's actually nicer to use than P2P - that's something that movie industry needs to have to combat piracy (hopefully <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voddler" title="wikipedia.org">Voddler</a> [wikipedia.org] will get there). When the service works good and is reasonably priced, you win a lot of customers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not a competition .
What they should do is offer Spotify [ wikipedia.org ] like service for movies all around the world , not just in US , and either ad-supported version or $ 10- $ 19 per month paid subscription with perks like PS3 and mobile streaming and so on .
After Spotify came around 1.5 years ago people have n't had a need to pirate MP3 's anymore .
It 's actually nicer to use than P2P - that 's something that movie industry needs to have to combat piracy ( hopefully Voddler [ wikipedia.org ] will get there ) .
When the service works good and is reasonably priced , you win a lot of customers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not a competition.
What they should do is offer Spotify [wikipedia.org] like service for movies all around the world, not just in US, and either ad-supported version or $10-$19 per month paid subscription with perks like PS3 and mobile streaming and so on.
After Spotify came around 1.5 years ago people haven't had a need to pirate MP3's anymore.
It's actually nicer to use than P2P - that's something that movie industry needs to have to combat piracy (hopefully Voddler [wikipedia.org] will get there).
When the service works good and is reasonably priced, you win a lot of customers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667988</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>shnull</author>
	<datestamp>1269945060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>These are probably the duds that post false links of shit that isn't released yet or post shit containing virii and trojans. The latter might have a few chinese nationalist hackers among them perhaps but still, if piracy were to be illegal, then how legal would it be to lure people into it and how legal would it be to knowingly spread infectuous malware ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>These are probably the duds that post false links of shit that is n't released yet or post shit containing virii and trojans .
The latter might have a few chinese nationalist hackers among them perhaps but still , if piracy were to be illegal , then how legal would it be to lure people into it and how legal would it be to knowingly spread infectuous malware ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These are probably the duds that post false links of shit that isn't released yet or post shit containing virii and trojans.
The latter might have a few chinese nationalist hackers among them perhaps but still, if piracy were to be illegal, then how legal would it be to lure people into it and how legal would it be to knowingly spread infectuous malware ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664436</id>
	<title>Predicting the Future</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269868260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I predict a future news article:</p><p>"Anti Pirate found to Pirate that which they set out to Protect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I predict a future news article : " Anti Pirate found to Pirate that which they set out to Protect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I predict a future news article:"Anti Pirate found to Pirate that which they set out to Protect.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665184</id>
	<title>I can already hear it, 10 years from now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269872700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I was young, and I needed the money!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I was young , and I needed the money !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I was young, and I needed the money!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664196</id>
	<title>Worst job ever</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks "anonymous reader" for making what might be the lamest, least effective job ever sound "awesome". But, you know if they're pirates... I don't really think The Pirate Bay nor it's users are going to give a damn about your "epic war", takedown requests or etc. What are these dumb college kids really supposed to do, go onto tpb.org and whine at the people there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks " anonymous reader " for making what might be the lamest , least effective job ever sound " awesome " .
But , you know if they 're pirates... I do n't really think The Pirate Bay nor it 's users are going to give a damn about your " epic war " , takedown requests or etc .
What are these dumb college kids really supposed to do , go onto tpb.org and whine at the people there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks "anonymous reader" for making what might be the lamest, least effective job ever sound "awesome".
But, you know if they're pirates... I don't really think The Pirate Bay nor it's users are going to give a damn about your "epic war", takedown requests or etc.
What are these dumb college kids really supposed to do, go onto tpb.org and whine at the people there?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31670992</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269965040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Get a better DVD player. VLC is great at skipping that crap, dealing with scratched discs and upscaling.</p></div><p>VLC does not make a DVD player. They make a media player that runs on a PC. So getting a better DVD player isn't going to help force past all the mandatory screens unless the content has been stripped by the pirate.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get a better DVD player .
VLC is great at skipping that crap , dealing with scratched discs and upscaling.VLC does not make a DVD player .
They make a media player that runs on a PC .
So getting a better DVD player is n't going to help force past all the mandatory screens unless the content has been stripped by the pirate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get a better DVD player.
VLC is great at skipping that crap, dealing with scratched discs and upscaling.VLC does not make a DVD player.
They make a media player that runs on a PC.
So getting a better DVD player isn't going to help force past all the mandatory screens unless the content has been stripped by the pirate.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664378</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666228</id>
	<title>Exposed</title>
	<author>swilver</author>
	<datestamp>1269881040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It will be interesting to see what happens when they get exposed to their fellow students.  Somehow I think that the effect will be a little worse than your average online-bullying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It will be interesting to see what happens when they get exposed to their fellow students .
Somehow I think that the effect will be a little worse than your average online-bullying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will be interesting to see what happens when they get exposed to their fellow students.
Somehow I think that the effect will be a little worse than your average online-bullying.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664934</id>
	<title>Pirate community is way to big</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269870900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>they would have to hire a lot of people and they would all have to be really good the throw a wrench in the system. Its like they dont seem to think that there are a lot of hacker and cracker pirates to fight off whatever they throw at us. And like stated above, any anti-pirates will be considered traitors, rules 3-7.</htmltext>
<tokenext>they would have to hire a lot of people and they would all have to be really good the throw a wrench in the system .
Its like they dont seem to think that there are a lot of hacker and cracker pirates to fight off whatever they throw at us .
And like stated above , any anti-pirates will be considered traitors , rules 3-7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they would have to hire a lot of people and they would all have to be really good the throw a wrench in the system.
Its like they dont seem to think that there are a lot of hacker and cracker pirates to fight off whatever they throw at us.
And like stated above, any anti-pirates will be considered traitors, rules 3-7.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665674</id>
	<title>Re:They keep spending money on this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269876240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, I've contemplated buying albums recently because I'm starting to get nervous about getting sued. If there were no repercussions to downloading music, I would go download gigabytes of the stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I 've contemplated buying albums recently because I 'm starting to get nervous about getting sued .
If there were no repercussions to downloading music , I would go download gigabytes of the stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I've contemplated buying albums recently because I'm starting to get nervous about getting sued.
If there were no repercussions to downloading music, I would go download gigabytes of the stuff.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666598</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269885120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WTF are you talking about?  I've bought around a hundred DVDs and about as many VHS tapes, and not a single one of them ever came with any sort of license at all.  They were clearly sold to me.</p><p>They're even <em>advertised</em> as being sold and not licensed: "own it now on DVD and BluRay." Those are <em>their</em> words.  Can you imagine that massive class action suit and Hollywood people going to jail for fraud, if they were ever to assert that all those people who thought they were buying something, never received even a shrinkwrap EULA after the sale, were told that they got cheated?</p><blockquote><div><p>But even if you could freely use it, there still is no such thing as ownership of information.</p></div></blockquote><p>You've got it completely backwards. The customer owns the information they bought, and Congress has passed something called "copyright law" which prohibits people from doing certain things with the information that they own.  You can own things and still not have all the rights that common sense would say you have; that's what government <em>does.</em>  Limiting rights for some popular concept of the "common good" is what government is <em>for.</em></p><p>At least that's how things are in the United States.  What country were <em>you</em> talking about?  Got any references to any country in the history of the world, ever having passed a radical new law that a sale isn't really a sale?</p></div>
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<tokenext>WTF are you talking about ?
I 've bought around a hundred DVDs and about as many VHS tapes , and not a single one of them ever came with any sort of license at all .
They were clearly sold to me.They 're even advertised as being sold and not licensed : " own it now on DVD and BluRay .
" Those are their words .
Can you imagine that massive class action suit and Hollywood people going to jail for fraud , if they were ever to assert that all those people who thought they were buying something , never received even a shrinkwrap EULA after the sale , were told that they got cheated ? But even if you could freely use it , there still is no such thing as ownership of information.You 've got it completely backwards .
The customer owns the information they bought , and Congress has passed something called " copyright law " which prohibits people from doing certain things with the information that they own .
You can own things and still not have all the rights that common sense would say you have ; that 's what government does .
Limiting rights for some popular concept of the " common good " is what government is for.At least that 's how things are in the United States .
What country were you talking about ?
Got any references to any country in the history of the world , ever having passed a radical new law that a sale is n't really a sale ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF are you talking about?
I've bought around a hundred DVDs and about as many VHS tapes, and not a single one of them ever came with any sort of license at all.
They were clearly sold to me.They're even advertised as being sold and not licensed: "own it now on DVD and BluRay.
" Those are their words.
Can you imagine that massive class action suit and Hollywood people going to jail for fraud, if they were ever to assert that all those people who thought they were buying something, never received even a shrinkwrap EULA after the sale, were told that they got cheated?But even if you could freely use it, there still is no such thing as ownership of information.You've got it completely backwards.
The customer owns the information they bought, and Congress has passed something called "copyright law" which prohibits people from doing certain things with the information that they own.
You can own things and still not have all the rights that common sense would say you have; that's what government does.
Limiting rights for some popular concept of the "common good" is what government is for.At least that's how things are in the United States.
What country were you talking about?
Got any references to any country in the history of the world, ever having passed a radical new law that a sale isn't really a sale?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667192</id>
	<title>Re:By what means</title>
	<author>MindlessAutomata</author>
	<datestamp>1269891720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd imagine they'd infiltrate private filesharing sites and help collect IP data on torrents.  This can be pretty damaging as these people can operate in the background and go undetected pretty easily--how are you going to tell who is and isn't a spy?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd imagine they 'd infiltrate private filesharing sites and help collect IP data on torrents .
This can be pretty damaging as these people can operate in the background and go undetected pretty easily--how are you going to tell who is and is n't a spy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd imagine they'd infiltrate private filesharing sites and help collect IP data on torrents.
This can be pretty damaging as these people can operate in the background and go undetected pretty easily--how are you going to tell who is and isn't a spy?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664112</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>radicalrendell</author>
	<datestamp>1269866640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Using their "trace buster busters"!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw3G80bplTg" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw3G80bplTg</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Using their " trace buster busters " !
http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = Iw3G80bplTg [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using their "trace buster busters"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw3G80bplTg [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665126</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269872160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Invention of Lying had *Literally* 20 minutes of previews.<br>You could not skip them.<br>You could not reach the title screen through top, or menu.<br>You could not scan through them (at the end of the first trailer, it would simply repeat.)<br>Ultimately had to use a title/chapter search feature of my dvd player to get to the title.</p><p>20 minutes of unskippable bullshit? seriously, it made me want to crack the disk before sending it back to netflix.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Invention of Lying had * Literally * 20 minutes of previews.You could not skip them.You could not reach the title screen through top , or menu.You could not scan through them ( at the end of the first trailer , it would simply repeat .
) Ultimately had to use a title/chapter search feature of my dvd player to get to the title.20 minutes of unskippable bullshit ?
seriously , it made me want to crack the disk before sending it back to netflix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Invention of Lying had *Literally* 20 minutes of previews.You could not skip them.You could not reach the title screen through top, or menu.You could not scan through them (at the end of the first trailer, it would simply repeat.
)Ultimately had to use a title/chapter search feature of my dvd player to get to the title.20 minutes of unskippable bullshit?
seriously, it made me want to crack the disk before sending it back to netflix.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665952</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Chuck Chunder</author>
	<datestamp>1269878460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>There is no such thing as buying a movie... unless maybe if you are the producer.
Since you only get a license for limited use.</p></div></blockquote><p>
That's funny, all the times I've bought a DVD I've never recieved such a license.
Can you tell me what law necessitates that I have a licence to watch a DVD?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no such thing as buying a movie... unless maybe if you are the producer .
Since you only get a license for limited use .
That 's funny , all the times I 've bought a DVD I 've never recieved such a license .
Can you tell me what law necessitates that I have a licence to watch a DVD ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no such thing as buying a movie... unless maybe if you are the producer.
Since you only get a license for limited use.
That's funny, all the times I've bought a DVD I've never recieved such a license.
Can you tell me what law necessitates that I have a licence to watch a DVD?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665112</id>
	<title>As long as they avoid government force...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269872100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">free society</a> [wikipedia.org] it would be within the right of the content authors to try to use whatever "technological cleverness" they come up with to track at least some of the "pirates" who copy their works, for the purposes of identification for legitimate <a href="http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19771" title="freestateproject.org" rel="nofollow">contract enforcement</a> [freestateproject.org] or ostracism.  For example Microsoft might gain the identity of the individuals / businesses pirating their software (or at least the individuals / businesses like ISP's that refuse to cooperate in their investigation) and blacklist them with certain business groups where Microsoft may be influential.  Vast business alliances can form naturally in the free market to protect common interests like anti-piracy, and a university may be contractually obligated to punish their students for "piracy" lest the university's garbage pickup company boycotts them - you get the idea.  Market pressure can be a powerful force, but, unlike government force (i.e. copyright / patent laws), it is always based on legitimate individual rights and not mindless violence for the sake of the state!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In a free society [ wikipedia.org ] it would be within the right of the content authors to try to use whatever " technological cleverness " they come up with to track at least some of the " pirates " who copy their works , for the purposes of identification for legitimate contract enforcement [ freestateproject.org ] or ostracism .
For example Microsoft might gain the identity of the individuals / businesses pirating their software ( or at least the individuals / businesses like ISP 's that refuse to cooperate in their investigation ) and blacklist them with certain business groups where Microsoft may be influential .
Vast business alliances can form naturally in the free market to protect common interests like anti-piracy , and a university may be contractually obligated to punish their students for " piracy " lest the university 's garbage pickup company boycotts them - you get the idea .
Market pressure can be a powerful force , but , unlike government force ( i.e .
copyright / patent laws ) , it is always based on legitimate individual rights and not mindless violence for the sake of the state !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a free society [wikipedia.org] it would be within the right of the content authors to try to use whatever "technological cleverness" they come up with to track at least some of the "pirates" who copy their works, for the purposes of identification for legitimate contract enforcement [freestateproject.org] or ostracism.
For example Microsoft might gain the identity of the individuals / businesses pirating their software (or at least the individuals / businesses like ISP's that refuse to cooperate in their investigation) and blacklist them with certain business groups where Microsoft may be influential.
Vast business alliances can form naturally in the free market to protect common interests like anti-piracy, and a university may be contractually obligated to punish their students for "piracy" lest the university's garbage pickup company boycotts them - you get the idea.
Market pressure can be a powerful force, but, unlike government force (i.e.
copyright / patent laws), it is always based on legitimate individual rights and not mindless violence for the sake of the state!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Traitors beware!</title>
	<author>CrashandDie</author>
	<datestamp>1269870900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Godwin's law!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Godwin 's law !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Godwin's law!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664228</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because it upsets the I want everything for free crowd on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because it upsets the I want everything for free crowd on / .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because it upsets the I want everything for free crowd on /.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667702</id>
	<title>Re:I'd do it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269941220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, cause the CEO and the rest of the Board of Directors is going to listen to the interns on company anti-piracy policies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , cause the CEO and the rest of the Board of Directors is going to listen to the interns on company anti-piracy policies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, cause the CEO and the rest of the Board of Directors is going to listen to the interns on company anti-piracy policies.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664214</id>
	<title>Warner Bros, Fuck you, Try it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>:)</p><p>"They" will encrypt and anonymise everything and all you will do is anger your paying customers. Die by your own hand... foolish I say.</p><p>Charge less for your products, allow fair use of them, and provide them in open formats so that people can enjoy their lives rather than be enslaved to limitations.</p><p>Your call.</p><p>Think very hard about this. This is plenty of money to be made by treating your customers with dignity and respect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>: ) " They " will encrypt and anonymise everything and all you will do is anger your paying customers .
Die by your own hand... foolish I say.Charge less for your products , allow fair use of them , and provide them in open formats so that people can enjoy their lives rather than be enslaved to limitations.Your call.Think very hard about this .
This is plenty of money to be made by treating your customers with dignity and respect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>:)"They" will encrypt and anonymise everything and all you will do is anger your paying customers.
Die by your own hand... foolish I say.Charge less for your products, allow fair use of them, and provide them in open formats so that people can enjoy their lives rather than be enslaved to limitations.Your call.Think very hard about this.
This is plenty of money to be made by treating your customers with dignity and respect.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31668242</id>
	<title>Re:One word ...</title>
	<author>The\_mad\_linguist</author>
	<datestamp>1269948660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even better:</p><p>"Hey, here's evidence that Warner brothers was giving out their movie for free with no strings attached.  Now that they've done that, there's no way they can claim that anyone pirated the movie, since the file transfer was authorized by Warner Brothers"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even better : " Hey , here 's evidence that Warner brothers was giving out their movie for free with no strings attached .
Now that they 've done that , there 's no way they can claim that anyone pirated the movie , since the file transfer was authorized by Warner Brothers "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even better:"Hey, here's evidence that Warner brothers was giving out their movie for free with no strings attached.
Now that they've done that, there's no way they can claim that anyone pirated the movie, since the file transfer was authorized by Warner Brothers"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667796</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1269942420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>But even if you could freely use it, there still is no such thing as ownership of information. Because ownership is defined as having certain abilities, like control over it.</i> <br> <br>Thing is that there are quite a few advertisments for DVDs which include the words "own it".</htmltext>
<tokenext>But even if you could freely use it , there still is no such thing as ownership of information .
Because ownership is defined as having certain abilities , like control over it .
Thing is that there are quite a few advertisments for DVDs which include the words " own it " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But even if you could freely use it, there still is no such thing as ownership of information.
Because ownership is defined as having certain abilities, like control over it.
Thing is that there are quite a few advertisments for DVDs which include the words "own it".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665612</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>zappepcs</author>
	<datestamp>1269875820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And of course, the other end of the story, interns that end up with large medical bills, difficulty seeing out of both eyes, and other maladies the befall those who snitch for a living. I'm sure they've figured out how to make such snitching legal, but they are headed down the path of the 'war on drugs' that most of the USA has engaged in. To my knowledge, it has done nothing to stem the drug problem or the flow of drugs. It has on the other hand improved the technology that drug dealers use, in an ever spiraling war of attrition. Apparently this wasteful 'war on drugs' (life, money, resources) has not even been good as an example of what NOT to do. It's frustrating to see. Yeah, I know it's not quite the same thing, but close enough. The courts didn't help, so naturally the next step is to hire spies and snitches. What could possibly go wrong?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And of course , the other end of the story , interns that end up with large medical bills , difficulty seeing out of both eyes , and other maladies the befall those who snitch for a living .
I 'm sure they 've figured out how to make such snitching legal , but they are headed down the path of the 'war on drugs ' that most of the USA has engaged in .
To my knowledge , it has done nothing to stem the drug problem or the flow of drugs .
It has on the other hand improved the technology that drug dealers use , in an ever spiraling war of attrition .
Apparently this wasteful 'war on drugs ' ( life , money , resources ) has not even been good as an example of what NOT to do .
It 's frustrating to see .
Yeah , I know it 's not quite the same thing , but close enough .
The courts did n't help , so naturally the next step is to hire spies and snitches .
What could possibly go wrong ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And of course, the other end of the story, interns that end up with large medical bills, difficulty seeing out of both eyes, and other maladies the befall those who snitch for a living.
I'm sure they've figured out how to make such snitching legal, but they are headed down the path of the 'war on drugs' that most of the USA has engaged in.
To my knowledge, it has done nothing to stem the drug problem or the flow of drugs.
It has on the other hand improved the technology that drug dealers use, in an ever spiraling war of attrition.
Apparently this wasteful 'war on drugs' (life, money, resources) has not even been good as an example of what NOT to do.
It's frustrating to see.
Yeah, I know it's not quite the same thing, but close enough.
The courts didn't help, so naturally the next step is to hire spies and snitches.
What could possibly go wrong?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31670784</id>
	<title>Watch this</title>
	<author>NSN A392-99-964-5927</author>
	<datestamp>1269964380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Show me the gold and pieces of 8<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>Show me the gold and pieces of 8 : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Show me the gold and pieces of 8 :P</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667468</id>
	<title>Re:I'd do it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269981660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Two reasons:</p><p>1) I agree that the majority of file sharing is illegal.</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>that depends on how you view it.</p><p>if you look at the history of copyright, you'll see what the intentions of copyright is.<br>as an artist, you could always decide that you won't release your work to the public.<br>but this wouldn't help society in the long run. so copyright was created, as a "contract" between a creator or works and society. it simplified states that the creator releases his work into the public domain, but we as a society respect his exclusive right to produce copies over a period of time. after this period is expired we have it in the public domain. everybody wins (society benefits from more art 'n shit, creator benefits $).</p><p>now the MAFIAAs come up with shit like copyprotection, DRM, and they even misuse this DRM to deny us the content we bought lawfully! so basically the MAFIAA broke the kind of "social contract" that copyright is. (they don't release stuff anymore into the public domain, or you think that in 50 years from now you can play every DRM ridden files?).</p><p>Ergo: the MAFIAA broke the contract, but release stuff. they shoudn't be protected by copyright laws anymore.</p><p>Tell me Parent: you still think that most downloading is illegal?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Two reasons : 1 ) I agree that the majority of file sharing is illegal .
...that depends on how you view it.if you look at the history of copyright , you 'll see what the intentions of copyright is.as an artist , you could always decide that you wo n't release your work to the public.but this would n't help society in the long run .
so copyright was created , as a " contract " between a creator or works and society .
it simplified states that the creator releases his work into the public domain , but we as a society respect his exclusive right to produce copies over a period of time .
after this period is expired we have it in the public domain .
everybody wins ( society benefits from more art 'n shit , creator benefits $ ) .now the MAFIAAs come up with shit like copyprotection , DRM , and they even misuse this DRM to deny us the content we bought lawfully !
so basically the MAFIAA broke the kind of " social contract " that copyright is .
( they do n't release stuff anymore into the public domain , or you think that in 50 years from now you can play every DRM ridden files ?
) .Ergo : the MAFIAA broke the contract , but release stuff .
they shoud n't be protected by copyright laws anymore.Tell me Parent : you still think that most downloading is illegal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two reasons:1) I agree that the majority of file sharing is illegal.
...that depends on how you view it.if you look at the history of copyright, you'll see what the intentions of copyright is.as an artist, you could always decide that you won't release your work to the public.but this wouldn't help society in the long run.
so copyright was created, as a "contract" between a creator or works and society.
it simplified states that the creator releases his work into the public domain, but we as a society respect his exclusive right to produce copies over a period of time.
after this period is expired we have it in the public domain.
everybody wins (society benefits from more art 'n shit, creator benefits $).now the MAFIAAs come up with shit like copyprotection, DRM, and they even misuse this DRM to deny us the content we bought lawfully!
so basically the MAFIAA broke the kind of "social contract" that copyright is.
(they don't release stuff anymore into the public domain, or you think that in 50 years from now you can play every DRM ridden files?
).Ergo: the MAFIAA broke the contract, but release stuff.
they shoudn't be protected by copyright laws anymore.Tell me Parent: you still think that most downloading is illegal?
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	<title>Usenet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269980100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or they could just shut down Astraweb and Giganews and get rid of the SOURCE for most of the pirated content on the web...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or they could just shut down Astraweb and Giganews and get rid of the SOURCE for most of the pirated content on the web.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or they could just shut down Astraweb and Giganews and get rid of the SOURCE for most of the pirated content on the web...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664046</id>
	<title>Sweet deal</title>
	<author>Brian Boitano</author>
	<datestamp>1269866280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>During the 12 month internship the students will have to maintain accounts at private BitTorrent sites, develop link-scanning bots, make trap purchases and perform various other anti-piracy tasks.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Sounds like a sweet deal!  I'll just copy that to my USB hard drive...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>During the 12 month internship the students will have to maintain accounts at private BitTorrent sites , develop link-scanning bots , make trap purchases and perform various other anti-piracy tasks .
Sounds like a sweet deal !
I 'll just copy that to my USB hard drive.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>During the 12 month internship the students will have to maintain accounts at private BitTorrent sites, develop link-scanning bots, make trap purchases and perform various other anti-piracy tasks.
Sounds like a sweet deal!
I'll just copy that to my USB hard drive...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31669924</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>jez9999</author>
	<datestamp>1269961500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also bear in mind that <i>entertainment</i> is one of the biggest exports of the US, and the economy would suffer hugely were its revenue to be lost.  Not saying it's a good thing, but it's something to consider.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also bear in mind that entertainment is one of the biggest exports of the US , and the economy would suffer hugely were its revenue to be lost .
Not saying it 's a good thing , but it 's something to consider .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also bear in mind that entertainment is one of the biggest exports of the US, and the economy would suffer hugely were its revenue to be lost.
Not saying it's a good thing, but it's something to consider.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665350</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665794</id>
	<title>Narcs</title>
	<author>earlymon</author>
	<datestamp>1269877140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's what we called 'em when I was in college - exact same principles - exact same ensnarements.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content, ensnaring users in incriminating transactions, issuing takedown requests, and causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet.</p></div><p>Exact same cluelessness, all the way around.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what we called 'em when I was in college - exact same principles - exact same ensnarements.The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content , ensnaring users in incriminating transactions , issuing takedown requests , and causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet.Exact same cluelessness , all the way around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what we called 'em when I was in college - exact same principles - exact same ensnarements.The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content, ensnaring users in incriminating transactions, issuing takedown requests, and causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the Internet.Exact same cluelessness, all the way around.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665984</id>
	<title>I'm sure everyone will laugh, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269878760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This might be their best idea yet.  At least they know they don't have a clue, and are trying to hire people who do.</p><p>But with BT, who exactly would get the takedown notices?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This might be their best idea yet .
At least they know they do n't have a clue , and are trying to hire people who do.But with BT , who exactly would get the takedown notices ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This might be their best idea yet.
At least they know they don't have a clue, and are trying to hire people who do.But with BT, who exactly would get the takedown notices?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664472</id>
	<title>Simpler solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269868440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just post a few thousand Rick Roll clips the length of the movie only marked things like Avatar. When they find out 99\% of the films posted are Rick Roll most will surrender or at least use up their bandwidth trying to download a film.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just post a few thousand Rick Roll clips the length of the movie only marked things like Avatar .
When they find out 99 \ % of the films posted are Rick Roll most will surrender or at least use up their bandwidth trying to download a film .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just post a few thousand Rick Roll clips the length of the movie only marked things like Avatar.
When they find out 99\% of the films posted are Rick Roll most will surrender or at least use up their bandwidth trying to download a film.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31668636</id>
	<title>Re:Traitors beware - said the Nazi</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269953640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Wanna know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone? They were brutally killed by the villagers."</p><p>In that case, the villagers were no better than the Nazis.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Wan na know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone ?
They were brutally killed by the villagers .
" In that case , the villagers were no better than the Nazis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Wanna know what happened to them when the Nazis were gone?
They were brutally killed by the villagers.
"In that case, the villagers were no better than the Nazis.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664928</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1269870900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When times are tough, you can hire people to do all sorts of things.  I wonder how long before they pay kids to turn their pirate parents in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When times are tough , you can hire people to do all sorts of things .
I wonder how long before they pay kids to turn their pirate parents in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When times are tough, you can hire people to do all sorts of things.
I wonder how long before they pay kids to turn their pirate parents in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664302</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664348</id>
	<title>Bored of contacting the developers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>P2P developers routinely receive offers to work for anti-p2p companies, developing against themselves. And not offers to help develop proper measures to control the copyright status of the shared files, but to create ways to disrupt their own networks, or other p2p networks, in clever ways. While I understand that contacting the more knowledgeable people in the field seems like the best move, this news item only proves that they can get the point after receiving a "Fuck you" answer over and over again...</htmltext>
<tokenext>P2P developers routinely receive offers to work for anti-p2p companies , developing against themselves .
And not offers to help develop proper measures to control the copyright status of the shared files , but to create ways to disrupt their own networks , or other p2p networks , in clever ways .
While I understand that contacting the more knowledgeable people in the field seems like the best move , this news item only proves that they can get the point after receiving a " Fuck you " answer over and over again.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>P2P developers routinely receive offers to work for anti-p2p companies, developing against themselves.
And not offers to help develop proper measures to control the copyright status of the shared files, but to create ways to disrupt their own networks, or other p2p networks, in clever ways.
While I understand that contacting the more knowledgeable people in the field seems like the best move, this news item only proves that they can get the point after receiving a "Fuck you" answer over and over again...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665870</id>
	<title>I'm a professional anti-pirate...or anti-....</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1269877740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look, if you want to hire me to be anti-anything, and want to write a big enough check, I'll sell out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look , if you want to hire me to be anti-anything , and want to write a big enough check , I 'll sell out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look, if you want to hire me to be anti-anything, and want to write a big enough check, I'll sell out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665828</id>
	<title>Re:It's A Fight To The Death ...</title>
	<author>shoehornjob</author>
	<datestamp>1269877380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"The real pirates will swab the decks with these amateur wanna-be's."

like they do every time. You'd figure when a 16 year old {dvd john} breaks your weak ass content protection system you would sit up and notice but they never learn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The real pirates will swab the decks with these amateur wan na-be 's .
" like they do every time .
You 'd figure when a 16 year old { dvd john } breaks your weak ass content protection system you would sit up and notice but they never learn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The real pirates will swab the decks with these amateur wanna-be's.
"

like they do every time.
You'd figure when a 16 year old {dvd john} breaks your weak ass content protection system you would sit up and notice but they never learn.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664012</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664824</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269870360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love to fuck fucking dogs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:3</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love to fuck fucking dogs : 3</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love to fuck fucking dogs :3</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664342</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665814</id>
	<title>Re:I'd do it.</title>
	<author>Zorque</author>
	<datestamp>1269877260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I appreciate your optimism, but I don't think the people being hired for this are really in any position to make demands about how the industry carries out their business. If you tried you'd probably be let go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I appreciate your optimism , but I do n't think the people being hired for this are really in any position to make demands about how the industry carries out their business .
If you tried you 'd probably be let go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I appreciate your optimism, but I don't think the people being hired for this are really in any position to make demands about how the industry carries out their business.
If you tried you'd probably be let go.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665090</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665550</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>MartinSchou</author>
	<datestamp>1269875400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Region locking?</p></div></blockquote><p>When Obama visited the UK, his present to Gordon Brown (Prime Minister) was 25 DVDs with classic American movies.</p><p>Anyone willing to bet that those DVDs are region locked to region 1?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Region locking ? When Obama visited the UK , his present to Gordon Brown ( Prime Minister ) was 25 DVDs with classic American movies.Anyone willing to bet that those DVDs are region locked to region 1 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Region locking?When Obama visited the UK, his present to Gordon Brown (Prime Minister) was 25 DVDs with classic American movies.Anyone willing to bet that those DVDs are region locked to region 1?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667084</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269890280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they wouldn't otherwise pay to see those movies, why should they want to be entitled to watch those movies?</p><p>Ethics is the manifestation of the moral code of society - but when you violate a law (And this is not in question here - The nature of downloading movies *illegally* is unethical; if it was ethical, it wouldn't be illegal), you've cast the first stone.</p><p>You do realise that your argument calls for an evaluation of which ethical breach is greater (how do you quantify this???) and insinuates that this social group of underprivileged people should be given carte blanche to do as they wish online - and it only works because human law tends to be more flexible than natural law. An analogy in nature: if you throw a stone and hit a sleeping bear and as a result the bear is inclined to maul you, I don't think claiming that the bear should not do so as you are more physically vulnerable than the bear is tenable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they would n't otherwise pay to see those movies , why should they want to be entitled to watch those movies ? Ethics is the manifestation of the moral code of society - but when you violate a law ( And this is not in question here - The nature of downloading movies * illegally * is unethical ; if it was ethical , it would n't be illegal ) , you 've cast the first stone.You do realise that your argument calls for an evaluation of which ethical breach is greater ( how do you quantify this ? ? ?
) and insinuates that this social group of underprivileged people should be given carte blanche to do as they wish online - and it only works because human law tends to be more flexible than natural law .
An analogy in nature : if you throw a stone and hit a sleeping bear and as a result the bear is inclined to maul you , I do n't think claiming that the bear should not do so as you are more physically vulnerable than the bear is tenable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they wouldn't otherwise pay to see those movies, why should they want to be entitled to watch those movies?Ethics is the manifestation of the moral code of society - but when you violate a law (And this is not in question here - The nature of downloading movies *illegally* is unethical; if it was ethical, it wouldn't be illegal), you've cast the first stone.You do realise that your argument calls for an evaluation of which ethical breach is greater (how do you quantify this???
) and insinuates that this social group of underprivileged people should be given carte blanche to do as they wish online - and it only works because human law tends to be more flexible than natural law.
An analogy in nature: if you throw a stone and hit a sleeping bear and as a result the bear is inclined to maul you, I don't think claiming that the bear should not do so as you are more physically vulnerable than the bear is tenable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664300</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31669696</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>Explodicle</author>
	<datestamp>1269960420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You should try Kaffeine. You can skip everything and change your audio/subtitle/etc settings with the right-click menu.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You should try Kaffeine .
You can skip everything and change your audio/subtitle/etc settings with the right-click menu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should try Kaffeine.
You can skip everything and change your audio/subtitle/etc settings with the right-click menu.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664830</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269870360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"...all around the world..." huh? As in, a single managed, global market market? Isn't that the same goal of ACTA? I'd be happy to test run it in the U.S.A,  though, just to see who gets sued and how quickly the fee structure changes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...all around the world... " huh ?
As in , a single managed , global market market ?
Is n't that the same goal of ACTA ?
I 'd be happy to test run it in the U.S.A , though , just to see who gets sued and how quickly the fee structure changes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...all around the world..." huh?
As in, a single managed, global market market?
Isn't that the same goal of ACTA?
I'd be happy to test run it in the U.S.A,  though, just to see who gets sued and how quickly the fee structure changes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664094</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666974</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1269888900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mind you, anti-piracy was spawned due to pirates infringing on their legal rights, so it would still trace back to piracy in the end.</p><p>Well, that is, assuming that you believe that anti-piracy methods are more of a problem than the pirates themselves. However, that wouldn't explain why the companies engage in the behaviour in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mind you , anti-piracy was spawned due to pirates infringing on their legal rights , so it would still trace back to piracy in the end.Well , that is , assuming that you believe that anti-piracy methods are more of a problem than the pirates themselves .
However , that would n't explain why the companies engage in the behaviour in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mind you, anti-piracy was spawned due to pirates infringing on their legal rights, so it would still trace back to piracy in the end.Well, that is, assuming that you believe that anti-piracy methods are more of a problem than the pirates themselves.
However, that wouldn't explain why the companies engage in the behaviour in the first place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31668132</id>
	<title>Illogical</title>
	<author>quantumpineal</author>
	<datestamp>1269946980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>a&gt; this could be classed as entrapment
&amp; b&gt; why would WB want to stop piracy of their movies. overall box office sales broke all records last year. more ppl go to see them in cinemas because they've tested them out in cam form first and want to see it on a big screen or in 3D with their partner or family</htmltext>
<tokenext>a &gt; this could be classed as entrapment &amp; b &gt; why would WB want to stop piracy of their movies .
overall box office sales broke all records last year .
more ppl go to see them in cinemas because they 've tested them out in cam form first and want to see it on a big screen or in 3D with their partner or family</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a&gt; this could be classed as entrapment
&amp; b&gt; why would WB want to stop piracy of their movies.
overall box office sales broke all records last year.
more ppl go to see them in cinemas because they've tested them out in cam form first and want to see it on a big screen or in 3D with their partner or family</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31704848</id>
	<title>They're probably being paid</title>
	<author>cavebison</author>
	<datestamp>1270240020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with free movies and music.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with free movies and music .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with free movies and music.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664266</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1269867360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that not what they are doing when they have their agents join a torrent swarm?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that not what they are doing when they have their agents join a torrent swarm ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that not what they are doing when they have their agents join a torrent swarm?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664092</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31668960</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>Steauengeglase</author>
	<datestamp>1269956220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh no, they'll still continue playing both sides of the street.</p><p>When a new movie or song comes out and they want to generate interest, "some unscrupulous employee" will still "leak" an early version. Of course they'll never prosecute "unscrupulous employee" because it was an "accident" and if pushed they'll simply argue that they were completely within with their right to leak it on the torrents as it was their's to leak, but not your's to download. When pushed that the whole thing is a honeypot, they will drop the claim and we'll mysteriously never hear of it again. Amazing how that happens while the content industry manages to not be a cartel. I guess they are really just smart, honest, really, really good people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh no , they 'll still continue playing both sides of the street.When a new movie or song comes out and they want to generate interest , " some unscrupulous employee " will still " leak " an early version .
Of course they 'll never prosecute " unscrupulous employee " because it was an " accident " and if pushed they 'll simply argue that they were completely within with their right to leak it on the torrents as it was their 's to leak , but not your 's to download .
When pushed that the whole thing is a honeypot , they will drop the claim and we 'll mysteriously never hear of it again .
Amazing how that happens while the content industry manages to not be a cartel .
I guess they are really just smart , honest , really , really good people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh no, they'll still continue playing both sides of the street.When a new movie or song comes out and they want to generate interest, "some unscrupulous employee" will still "leak" an early version.
Of course they'll never prosecute "unscrupulous employee" because it was an "accident" and if pushed they'll simply argue that they were completely within with their right to leak it on the torrents as it was their's to leak, but not your's to download.
When pushed that the whole thing is a honeypot, they will drop the claim and we'll mysteriously never hear of it again.
Amazing how that happens while the content industry manages to not be a cartel.
I guess they are really just smart, honest, really, really good people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667022</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>Pranadevil2k</author>
	<datestamp>1269889380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every episode of South Park is available for free on its official website. At that point the only thing you're really pirating is a pittance of internet ad-revenue and the convenience of having the actual video file.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every episode of South Park is available for free on its official website .
At that point the only thing you 're really pirating is a pittance of internet ad-revenue and the convenience of having the actual video file .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every episode of South Park is available for free on its official website.
At that point the only thing you're really pirating is a pittance of internet ad-revenue and the convenience of having the actual video file.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31668998</id>
	<title>UK rushing through law to disconnect filesharers</title>
	<author>Cato</author>
	<datestamp>1269956460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The UK government is rushing through a law on filesharing in the last week of parliamentary business before the general election.  It's bypassing the normal line by line debate in committees etc.</p><p>The proposed law, which will become law shortly after April 6th on current plans, will essentially enable the copyright holder to get warning letters sent to those who are believed to be illegally sharing files - these go to the broadband account holder, and if the incidents continue, they can be disconnected (or other unspecified "technical measures" may be taken).  It doesn't matter if a family member or guest did the file sharing, or someone freeloading on your WiFi.</p><p>See <a href="http://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/disconnection/why-care" title="openrightsgroup.org">http://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/disconnection/why-care</a> [openrightsgroup.org] for more details and what to do about this.</p><p>The relevance to this story is that the UK students that Warner is recruiting might well uncover the "filesharing incidents" that would feed into this heavy handed enforcement mechanism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The UK government is rushing through a law on filesharing in the last week of parliamentary business before the general election .
It 's bypassing the normal line by line debate in committees etc.The proposed law , which will become law shortly after April 6th on current plans , will essentially enable the copyright holder to get warning letters sent to those who are believed to be illegally sharing files - these go to the broadband account holder , and if the incidents continue , they can be disconnected ( or other unspecified " technical measures " may be taken ) .
It does n't matter if a family member or guest did the file sharing , or someone freeloading on your WiFi.See http : //www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/disconnection/why-care [ openrightsgroup.org ] for more details and what to do about this.The relevance to this story is that the UK students that Warner is recruiting might well uncover the " filesharing incidents " that would feed into this heavy handed enforcement mechanism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The UK government is rushing through a law on filesharing in the last week of parliamentary business before the general election.
It's bypassing the normal line by line debate in committees etc.The proposed law, which will become law shortly after April 6th on current plans, will essentially enable the copyright holder to get warning letters sent to those who are believed to be illegally sharing files - these go to the broadband account holder, and if the incidents continue, they can be disconnected (or other unspecified "technical measures" may be taken).
It doesn't matter if a family member or guest did the file sharing, or someone freeloading on your WiFi.See http://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/disconnection/why-care [openrightsgroup.org] for more details and what to do about this.The relevance to this story is that the UK students that Warner is recruiting might well uncover the "filesharing incidents" that would feed into this heavy handed enforcement mechanism.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665604</id>
	<title>Re:A fools errand</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269875760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Inform yourself.</p><p>
&nbsp; </p><p><div class="quote"><p>Canadian survey and study, which shows a direct positive influence on purchases due to downloading.</p><p><a href="http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/ippd-dppi.nsf/eng/h\_ip01456.html" title="ic.gc.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/ippd-dppi.nsf/eng/h\_ip01456.html</a> [ic.gc.ca]</p><p>The key findings of above study</p><p><a href="http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9086/canadian\_govt\_study\_p2p\_increases\_cd\_sales/" title="zeropaid.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9086/canadian\_govt\_study\_p2p\_increases\_cd\_sales/</a> [zeropaid.com]</p><p>A Harvard Business School study with clear proof that sales are affected by downloads, for the positive.</p><p><a href="http://www.unc.edu/~cigar/papers/FileSharing\_March2004.pdf" title="unc.edu" rel="nofollow">http://www.unc.edu/~cigar/papers/FileSharing\_March2004.pdf</a> [unc.edu]</p><p>A recent Norweigen school of management study, which shows not only are filesharers increasing sales they themselves are the largest purchasers of that media.</p><p><a href="http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86009/study-pirates-buy-10-times-more-music-than-they-steal/" title="zeropaid.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86009/study-pirates-buy-10-times-more-music-than-they-steal/</a> [zeropaid.com]</p><p>
&nbsp; </p><p><div class="quote"><p>This may sound in your head as something quite insightful, however when its broken down its clear it has very little meaning at all. Are you suggesting that the initial profit increase is somehow not an increase in sales? Or are you suggesting that a higher initial profit has nothing to do with sales? Or is it a preemptive statement and you are hoping to deflect arguments about current profit increases by the big media houses? Furthermore how does this statement help your case? You are agreeing and disagreeing with yourself in the same sentence.</p></div></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Inform yourself .
  Canadian survey and study , which shows a direct positive influence on purchases due to downloading.http : //www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/ippd-dppi.nsf/eng/h \ _ip01456.html [ ic.gc.ca ] The key findings of above studyhttp : //www.zeropaid.com/news/9086/canadian \ _govt \ _study \ _p2p \ _increases \ _cd \ _sales/ [ zeropaid.com ] A Harvard Business School study with clear proof that sales are affected by downloads , for the positive.http : //www.unc.edu/ ~ cigar/papers/FileSharing \ _March2004.pdf [ unc.edu ] A recent Norweigen school of management study , which shows not only are filesharers increasing sales they themselves are the largest purchasers of that media.http : //www.zeropaid.com/news/86009/study-pirates-buy-10-times-more-music-than-they-steal/ [ zeropaid.com ]   This may sound in your head as something quite insightful , however when its broken down its clear it has very little meaning at all .
Are you suggesting that the initial profit increase is somehow not an increase in sales ?
Or are you suggesting that a higher initial profit has nothing to do with sales ?
Or is it a preemptive statement and you are hoping to deflect arguments about current profit increases by the big media houses ?
Furthermore how does this statement help your case ?
You are agreeing and disagreeing with yourself in the same sentence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Inform yourself.
  Canadian survey and study, which shows a direct positive influence on purchases due to downloading.http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/ippd-dppi.nsf/eng/h\_ip01456.html [ic.gc.ca]The key findings of above studyhttp://www.zeropaid.com/news/9086/canadian\_govt\_study\_p2p\_increases\_cd\_sales/ [zeropaid.com]A Harvard Business School study with clear proof that sales are affected by downloads, for the positive.http://www.unc.edu/~cigar/papers/FileSharing\_March2004.pdf [unc.edu]A recent Norweigen school of management study, which shows not only are filesharers increasing sales they themselves are the largest purchasers of that media.http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86009/study-pirates-buy-10-times-more-music-than-they-steal/ [zeropaid.com]
  This may sound in your head as something quite insightful, however when its broken down its clear it has very little meaning at all.
Are you suggesting that the initial profit increase is somehow not an increase in sales?
Or are you suggesting that a higher initial profit has nothing to do with sales?
Or is it a preemptive statement and you are hoping to deflect arguments about current profit increases by the big media houses?
Furthermore how does this statement help your case?
You are agreeing and disagreeing with yourself in the same sentence.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666030</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269879360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Haven't read it for a while, but I remember there being a mention in Rousseau's "Social Contract" about the corrosive effect of impossible to enforce legislation.  He makes the point that having laws on the books that the executive has no possibility of actually enforcing broadly (and people knowing this) eliminates the respect for the remaining laws and therefore the consent of the populace to abide by them.</p><p>Basically, the rule of law is based on people buying in to the system.  If the people being ruled don't buy in, the government is fucked because it's just too goddamn hard to actually force everybody to follow the law if they don't want to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have n't read it for a while , but I remember there being a mention in Rousseau 's " Social Contract " about the corrosive effect of impossible to enforce legislation .
He makes the point that having laws on the books that the executive has no possibility of actually enforcing broadly ( and people knowing this ) eliminates the respect for the remaining laws and therefore the consent of the populace to abide by them.Basically , the rule of law is based on people buying in to the system .
If the people being ruled do n't buy in , the government is fucked because it 's just too goddamn hard to actually force everybody to follow the law if they do n't want to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haven't read it for a while, but I remember there being a mention in Rousseau's "Social Contract" about the corrosive effect of impossible to enforce legislation.
He makes the point that having laws on the books that the executive has no possibility of actually enforcing broadly (and people knowing this) eliminates the respect for the remaining laws and therefore the consent of the populace to abide by them.Basically, the rule of law is based on people buying in to the system.
If the people being ruled don't buy in, the government is fucked because it's just too goddamn hard to actually force everybody to follow the law if they don't want to.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31668572</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>vosester</author>
	<datestamp>1269952860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wouldn&rsquo;t that be illegal under US law? As it uses libdvdcss.<br>According to Wikipedia it&rsquo;s never been tested in court against the DMCA, But I think it falls under the circumventing or bypassing DRM stature.</p><p>So by using VLC, I have gone from legitimate to illegitimate. I personally think that if I am going to be labeled as a theft, then I might as well not pay for the experience.</p><p>Also to be a legitimate DVD player don&rsquo;t you have to follow all the rules of the standard even the silly ones like respecting the no skip flag, Otherwise you not allowed to sell it.</p><p>Which means most standalone players can not get away with, what VLC can.</p><p>(I am not American so my understanding of US law is limited to what I read on Wikipedia and the Web)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wouldn    t that be illegal under US law ?
As it uses libdvdcss.According to Wikipedia it    s never been tested in court against the DMCA , But I think it falls under the circumventing or bypassing DRM stature.So by using VLC , I have gone from legitimate to illegitimate .
I personally think that if I am going to be labeled as a theft , then I might as well not pay for the experience.Also to be a legitimate DVD player don    t you have to follow all the rules of the standard even the silly ones like respecting the no skip flag , Otherwise you not allowed to sell it.Which means most standalone players can not get away with , what VLC can .
( I am not American so my understanding of US law is limited to what I read on Wikipedia and the Web )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn’t that be illegal under US law?
As it uses libdvdcss.According to Wikipedia it’s never been tested in court against the DMCA, But I think it falls under the circumventing or bypassing DRM stature.So by using VLC, I have gone from legitimate to illegitimate.
I personally think that if I am going to be labeled as a theft, then I might as well not pay for the experience.Also to be a legitimate DVD player don’t you have to follow all the rules of the standard even the silly ones like respecting the no skip flag, Otherwise you not allowed to sell it.Which means most standalone players can not get away with, what VLC can.
(I am not American so my understanding of US law is limited to what I read on Wikipedia and the Web)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665048</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Ogi\_UnixNut</author>
	<datestamp>1269871740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Only by using the same methods for bypass as used by pirates for ripping the movies. If the movie studiosmade unbreakable DRM, you would not have able to bypass any messages (or do anything really) without their explicit permission, regardless of software (assuming you can even read it using linux/oss software).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Only by using the same methods for bypass as used by pirates for ripping the movies .
If the movie studiosmade unbreakable DRM , you would not have able to bypass any messages ( or do anything really ) without their explicit permission , regardless of software ( assuming you can even read it using linux/oss software ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only by using the same methods for bypass as used by pirates for ripping the movies.
If the movie studiosmade unbreakable DRM, you would not have able to bypass any messages (or do anything really) without their explicit permission, regardless of software (assuming you can even read it using linux/oss software).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665090</id>
	<title>I'd do it.</title>
	<author>Bill, Shooter of Bul</author>
	<datestamp>1269871920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two reasons:</p><p>1) I agree that the majority of file sharing is illegal.</p><p>2) I agree that the media companies are pretty evil. I should learn all I can about them and they should learn all they can about me. They need help figuring out the best ways to curb piracy, and make their own offerings more palatable to the general public. They should be allowed to make money for their work, but their should be harsher limits on their control of media. If they want me fighting for them, they'll need to agree to reform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two reasons : 1 ) I agree that the majority of file sharing is illegal.2 ) I agree that the media companies are pretty evil .
I should learn all I can about them and they should learn all they can about me .
They need help figuring out the best ways to curb piracy , and make their own offerings more palatable to the general public .
They should be allowed to make money for their work , but their should be harsher limits on their control of media .
If they want me fighting for them , they 'll need to agree to reform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two reasons:1) I agree that the majority of file sharing is illegal.2) I agree that the media companies are pretty evil.
I should learn all I can about them and they should learn all they can about me.
They need help figuring out the best ways to curb piracy, and make their own offerings more palatable to the general public.
They should be allowed to make money for their work, but their should be harsher limits on their control of media.
If they want me fighting for them, they'll need to agree to reform.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666200</id>
	<title>Re:They are fighting nature</title>
	<author>EvolutionsPeak</author>
	<datestamp>1269880800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When fighting nature, either nature always wins or everyone loses.  In this case, they are fighting artistic and entertainment nature.  Art and entertainment need to be free and need to be shared.  It is an important part of what it means to be a human being.  What big media is doing is wrong in the sense that they think they can control and limit and even "bottle up" art and entertainment to maximize their profits.</p></div><p>This gets said a lot here.  Every time, it is said without explaining why art and entertainment "need" to be free.  This makes it come off like hippies raving due to a false sense of entitlement.  So, please, explain why those things "need" to be free in a clear, logical statement.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When fighting nature , either nature always wins or everyone loses .
In this case , they are fighting artistic and entertainment nature .
Art and entertainment need to be free and need to be shared .
It is an important part of what it means to be a human being .
What big media is doing is wrong in the sense that they think they can control and limit and even " bottle up " art and entertainment to maximize their profits.This gets said a lot here .
Every time , it is said without explaining why art and entertainment " need " to be free .
This makes it come off like hippies raving due to a false sense of entitlement .
So , please , explain why those things " need " to be free in a clear , logical statement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When fighting nature, either nature always wins or everyone loses.
In this case, they are fighting artistic and entertainment nature.
Art and entertainment need to be free and need to be shared.
It is an important part of what it means to be a human being.
What big media is doing is wrong in the sense that they think they can control and limit and even "bottle up" art and entertainment to maximize their profits.This gets said a lot here.
Every time, it is said without explaining why art and entertainment "need" to be free.
This makes it come off like hippies raving due to a false sense of entitlement.
So, please, explain why those things "need" to be free in a clear, logical statement.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664454</id>
	<title>Ha</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269868380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This makes me want to get involved in piracy again so that I can beat the living shit out of some of these sellouts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This makes me want to get involved in piracy again so that I can beat the living shit out of some of these sellouts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This makes me want to get involved in piracy again so that I can beat the living shit out of some of these sellouts.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665376</id>
	<title>Re:Shit job, Shit Pay.</title>
	<author>glwtta</author>
	<datestamp>1269874260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>This to me reads as "Warner Brothers is ripping off intelligent college students"</i>
<br> <br>
If they were intelligent, they wouldn't be getting ripped off, now would they?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This to me reads as " Warner Brothers is ripping off intelligent college students " If they were intelligent , they would n't be getting ripped off , now would they ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This to me reads as "Warner Brothers is ripping off intelligent college students"
 
If they were intelligent, they wouldn't be getting ripped off, now would they?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664386</id>
	<title>say goodbye to friendship</title>
	<author>Triv</author>
	<datestamp>1269867960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow. I used to think being a dorm RA was the fast-lane to friendlessness, but clearly this is worse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
I used to think being a dorm RA was the fast-lane to friendlessness , but clearly this is worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
I used to think being a dorm RA was the fast-lane to friendlessness, but clearly this is worse.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666686</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269886140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was born in Vietnam. Raised in the US. Living and working in Australia for over 5 years now. I move around for long stints at a time. Region locking is the main reason I won't buy DVDs anywhere. I don't really consider any country my permanent home. Earth, however is a bit harder to get away from.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was born in Vietnam .
Raised in the US .
Living and working in Australia for over 5 years now .
I move around for long stints at a time .
Region locking is the main reason I wo n't buy DVDs anywhere .
I do n't really consider any country my permanent home .
Earth , however is a bit harder to get away from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was born in Vietnam.
Raised in the US.
Living and working in Australia for over 5 years now.
I move around for long stints at a time.
Region locking is the main reason I won't buy DVDs anywhere.
I don't really consider any country my permanent home.
Earth, however is a bit harder to get away from.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664908</id>
	<title>this is not a "literal" kind of momrnt</title>
	<author>larkost</author>
	<datestamp>1269870780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated content</p></div><p>No, this would be "figuratively on the front-lines". Being "litterally on the front-lines" requires actual lines of battle on a phisical battlefield. Would it really kill the editors to do even some minor editing?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated contentNo , this would be " figuratively on the front-lines " .
Being " litterally on the front-lines " requires actual lines of battle on a phisical battlefield .
Would it really kill the editors to do even some minor editing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The intern will literally be on the front-lines of the epic battle against pirated contentNo, this would be "figuratively on the front-lines".
Being "litterally on the front-lines" requires actual lines of battle on a phisical battlefield.
Would it really kill the editors to do even some minor editing?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664300</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>timmarhy</author>
	<datestamp>1269867540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>no they don't, the government has the right to enforce copyrights. Warner Brothers has the right to ALLEGE an infringement and make a complaint. anything more grants them the roles of judge, jury and executioner all in one.<p>
If you want to argue ethics, lets debate about movie producers and actors with net worths in the 100's of millions sueing single mothers and college kids for downloading a few movies they otherwise wouldn't pay to see anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>no they do n't , the government has the right to enforce copyrights .
Warner Brothers has the right to ALLEGE an infringement and make a complaint .
anything more grants them the roles of judge , jury and executioner all in one .
If you want to argue ethics , lets debate about movie producers and actors with net worths in the 100 's of millions sueing single mothers and college kids for downloading a few movies they otherwise would n't pay to see anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no they don't, the government has the right to enforce copyrights.
Warner Brothers has the right to ALLEGE an infringement and make a complaint.
anything more grants them the roles of judge, jury and executioner all in one.
If you want to argue ethics, lets debate about movie producers and actors with net worths in the 100's of millions sueing single mothers and college kids for downloading a few movies they otherwise wouldn't pay to see anyway.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667994</id>
	<title>Re:By what means</title>
	<author>mwvdlee</author>
	<datestamp>1269945120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>and pretending it's still 1991.</p></div><p>Actually, back in 1991, videos did NOT have unskippable warnings/trailers/etc.<br>Back in 1991, people also bought videos a lot more.<br>Correlation != causation, but atleast this causation is not any less obfuscated than the piracy correlation.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>and pretending it 's still 1991.Actually , back in 1991 , videos did NOT have unskippable warnings/trailers/etc.Back in 1991 , people also bought videos a lot more.Correlation ! = causation , but atleast this causation is not any less obfuscated than the piracy correlation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and pretending it's still 1991.Actually, back in 1991, videos did NOT have unskippable warnings/trailers/etc.Back in 1991, people also bought videos a lot more.Correlation != causation, but atleast this causation is not any less obfuscated than the piracy correlation.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664224</id>
	<title>Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you pirate a movie, you don't have to contend with ads, previews or screens you can't force your way past. When you legitimately buy a movie, you are forced to watch previews, get stuck waiting for the FBI warning and often times contend with other annoyances.</p><p>Perhaps shafting your legitimate clients isn't the best way to do business?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you pirate a movie , you do n't have to contend with ads , previews or screens you ca n't force your way past .
When you legitimately buy a movie , you are forced to watch previews , get stuck waiting for the FBI warning and often times contend with other annoyances.Perhaps shafting your legitimate clients is n't the best way to do business ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you pirate a movie, you don't have to contend with ads, previews or screens you can't force your way past.
When you legitimately buy a movie, you are forced to watch previews, get stuck waiting for the FBI warning and often times contend with other annoyances.Perhaps shafting your legitimate clients isn't the best way to do business?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31668716</id>
	<title>Re:One word ...</title>
	<author>twistofsin</author>
	<datestamp>1269954240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Entrapment is only applicable when a law enforcement (or similar govt agent) is involved.

But this isn't how the studios work. They don't try and go after the people who just download (leechers). If you grab a torrent and are considerate enough to share it, they will log your IP when they receive content from you and then send a DMCA notice to your ISP.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Entrapment is only applicable when a law enforcement ( or similar govt agent ) is involved .
But this is n't how the studios work .
They do n't try and go after the people who just download ( leechers ) .
If you grab a torrent and are considerate enough to share it , they will log your IP when they receive content from you and then send a DMCA notice to your ISP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Entrapment is only applicable when a law enforcement (or similar govt agent) is involved.
But this isn't how the studios work.
They don't try and go after the people who just download (leechers).
If you grab a torrent and are considerate enough to share it, they will log your IP when they receive content from you and then send a DMCA notice to your ISP.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666586</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664882</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>Xelios</author>
	<datestamp>1269870660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts."</i> <br>

And why stop there? Here's a few other things that need to go:<ul>
<li>Why are there anti-piracy warnings displayed at the beginning of the movie I just bought? Why can't I skip them?</li><li>Why are there <b>commercials</b> and trailers in this DVD that I just bought? If I want to see a trailer I'll go look it up online.</li><li>Region locking? We've had region-free players for a while now, it's pointless and it needs to go.</li><li>An "extended Directors Cut" version of the same DVD I just bought released a couple months later? Great, thanks, I love wasting money.</li><li>Yes, I see your flashy menu. It's nice. Now can we get on with the playing of the movie please? No? Oh good, now you're showing me all the funny parts of the movie in the menu <i>before I've even seen the movie</i>. Can I turn subtitles off now? More animation? All I did was press a button, I don't need a damn light show congratulating me on it.</li></ul><p>
Sigh. You're very bad people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts .
" And why stop there ?
Here 's a few other things that need to go : Why are there anti-piracy warnings displayed at the beginning of the movie I just bought ?
Why ca n't I skip them ? Why are there commercials and trailers in this DVD that I just bought ?
If I want to see a trailer I 'll go look it up online.Region locking ?
We 've had region-free players for a while now , it 's pointless and it needs to go.An " extended Directors Cut " version of the same DVD I just bought released a couple months later ?
Great , thanks , I love wasting money.Yes , I see your flashy menu .
It 's nice .
Now can we get on with the playing of the movie please ?
No ? Oh good , now you 're showing me all the funny parts of the movie in the menu before I 've even seen the movie .
Can I turn subtitles off now ?
More animation ?
All I did was press a button , I do n't need a damn light show congratulating me on it .
Sigh. You 're very bad people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts.
" 

And why stop there?
Here's a few other things that need to go:
Why are there anti-piracy warnings displayed at the beginning of the movie I just bought?
Why can't I skip them?Why are there commercials and trailers in this DVD that I just bought?
If I want to see a trailer I'll go look it up online.Region locking?
We've had region-free players for a while now, it's pointless and it needs to go.An "extended Directors Cut" version of the same DVD I just bought released a couple months later?
Great, thanks, I love wasting money.Yes, I see your flashy menu.
It's nice.
Now can we get on with the playing of the movie please?
No? Oh good, now you're showing me all the funny parts of the movie in the menu before I've even seen the movie.
Can I turn subtitles off now?
More animation?
All I did was press a button, I don't need a damn light show congratulating me on it.
Sigh. You're very bad people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664108</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664066</id>
	<title>Steal the Treasure!</title>
	<author>Warclock</author>
	<datestamp>1269866400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looks like these "anti-pirates" will only try to stop theft of treasure from Warner or NBC - everyone else is free game!  Yar!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like these " anti-pirates " will only try to stop theft of treasure from Warner or NBC - everyone else is free game !
Yar !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like these "anti-pirates" will only try to stop theft of treasure from Warner or NBC - everyone else is free game!
Yar!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665472</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>Alvare</author>
	<datestamp>1269874920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you mean anti-ninjas ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>you mean anti-ninjas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you mean anti-ninjas ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31663990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664574</id>
	<title>Re:Sellouts</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1269868980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Think of the opportunities here: interns.  With access to playbooks, methods, tools, sites.  IP addresses.  With the chance to come out afterward and disclose everything to the targets, the press and the courts.  Let's not tar and feather them all just yet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Think of the opportunities here : interns .
With access to playbooks , methods , tools , sites .
IP addresses .
With the chance to come out afterward and disclose everything to the targets , the press and the courts .
Let 's not tar and feather them all just yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Think of the opportunities here: interns.
With access to playbooks, methods, tools, sites.
IP addresses.
With the chance to come out afterward and disclose everything to the targets, the press and the courts.
Let's not tar and feather them all just yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664076</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666096</id>
	<title>Re:this is not a "literal" kind of momrnt(sic)</title>
	<author>Fnord666</author>
	<datestamp>1269879900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>No, this would be "figuratively on the front-lines". Being "litterally(sic) on the front-lines" requires actual lines of battle on a phisical(sic) battlefield. Would it really kill the editors to do even some minor editing?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Some days the irony fairy just gets carried away...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , this would be " figuratively on the front-lines " .
Being " litterally ( sic ) on the front-lines " requires actual lines of battle on a phisical ( sic ) battlefield .
Would it really kill the editors to do even some minor editing ?
Some days the irony fairy just gets carried away.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, this would be "figuratively on the front-lines".
Being "litterally(sic) on the front-lines" requires actual lines of battle on a phisical(sic) battlefield.
Would it really kill the editors to do even some minor editing?
Some days the irony fairy just gets carried away...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666736</id>
	<title>Awesome! Sign me up!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269886680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What?  No, i'm serious.  sign me up for this job.  this is fucking awesome.</p><p>Get PAID to do what i do now for free.  Pirate movies or whatever i want.   Free reign to do just about anything i like.  And if anyone gets in my way?</p><p>Turn their ass in!</p><p>Sure i'm a prick.   But i get to do what i want.  get paid for it.  and i know i'm on the wrong side of an unwinnable war!   I can get paid forever!  DO almost nothing, FOREVER!</p><p>I like free checks in the mail.   Greed is good.  Greed works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
No , i 'm serious .
sign me up for this job .
this is fucking awesome.Get PAID to do what i do now for free .
Pirate movies or whatever i want .
Free reign to do just about anything i like .
And if anyone gets in my way ? Turn their ass in ! Sure i 'm a prick .
But i get to do what i want .
get paid for it .
and i know i 'm on the wrong side of an unwinnable war !
I can get paid forever !
DO almost nothing , FOREVER ! I like free checks in the mail .
Greed is good .
Greed works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
No, i'm serious.
sign me up for this job.
this is fucking awesome.Get PAID to do what i do now for free.
Pirate movies or whatever i want.
Free reign to do just about anything i like.
And if anyone gets in my way?Turn their ass in!Sure i'm a prick.
But i get to do what i want.
get paid for it.
and i know i'm on the wrong side of an unwinnable war!
I can get paid forever!
DO almost nothing, FOREVER!I like free checks in the mail.
Greed is good.
Greed works.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664076</id>
	<title>Sellouts</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1269866460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess some people will do anything for money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess some people will do anything for money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess some people will do anything for money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667574</id>
	<title>Re:They are fighting nature</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269939660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People WOULD create even if there's no money in it. But they wouldn't spend an incredible amount of money to develop technologi so that they're able to present their ideas in whopping 3D, or even ideas requiring much special effects.</p><p>Don't tell me that I'd have to settle for non-budget amateur work, I LOVE to pay to see big productions like Avatar, Lord of the Rings etc!! Don't take those away! And don't pretend you never watch big productions either.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/J.T.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People WOULD create even if there 's no money in it .
But they would n't spend an incredible amount of money to develop technologi so that they 're able to present their ideas in whopping 3D , or even ideas requiring much special effects.Do n't tell me that I 'd have to settle for non-budget amateur work , I LOVE to pay to see big productions like Avatar , Lord of the Rings etc ! !
Do n't take those away !
And do n't pretend you never watch big productions either .
/J.T .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People WOULD create even if there's no money in it.
But they wouldn't spend an incredible amount of money to develop technologi so that they're able to present their ideas in whopping 3D, or even ideas requiring much special effects.Don't tell me that I'd have to settle for non-budget amateur work, I LOVE to pay to see big productions like Avatar, Lord of the Rings etc!!
Don't take those away!
And don't pretend you never watch big productions either.
/J.T.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665022</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269871500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sounds like the plot to a boring hollywood movie</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sounds like the plot to a boring hollywood movie</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sounds like the plot to a boring hollywood movie</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666264</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269881460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems to me you're trying to argue semantics, not ethics.</p><p>Try not to do that, k?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems to me you 're trying to argue semantics , not ethics.Try not to do that , k ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems to me you're trying to argue semantics, not ethics.Try not to do that, k?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664300</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665890</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269877800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why?  blu-ray sales aren't low only because they are expensive.  They're also unnecessary.  DVDs are more than high enough resolution for most people, and there just isn't that much of a practical difference to be worth paying a premium.  Blu-ray disks will take off when the price becomes about the same as DVDs and everyone has a blue-ray player.  Until then, it will be the movie enthusiasts with huge TVs and lots of expensive equipment and money to burn.</p><p>Also, those of us who like to collect DVDs on our computer, well we also don't like blu-ray because, well DVDs copy effortlessly for the most part.  Copying a blu-ray (in a usable way) requires special (and non-free) software, which only works in Windows, and plus it requires a lot of hard drive space.  The world is moving more towards mobile devices... whether I use the blu-ray or the DVD to produce the file to put on my iPod doesn't matter much, but the DVD is cheaper, and easier to rip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
blu-ray sales are n't low only because they are expensive .
They 're also unnecessary .
DVDs are more than high enough resolution for most people , and there just is n't that much of a practical difference to be worth paying a premium .
Blu-ray disks will take off when the price becomes about the same as DVDs and everyone has a blue-ray player .
Until then , it will be the movie enthusiasts with huge TVs and lots of expensive equipment and money to burn.Also , those of us who like to collect DVDs on our computer , well we also do n't like blu-ray because , well DVDs copy effortlessly for the most part .
Copying a blu-ray ( in a usable way ) requires special ( and non-free ) software , which only works in Windows , and plus it requires a lot of hard drive space .
The world is moving more towards mobile devices... whether I use the blu-ray or the DVD to produce the file to put on my iPod does n't matter much , but the DVD is cheaper , and easier to rip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
blu-ray sales aren't low only because they are expensive.
They're also unnecessary.
DVDs are more than high enough resolution for most people, and there just isn't that much of a practical difference to be worth paying a premium.
Blu-ray disks will take off when the price becomes about the same as DVDs and everyone has a blue-ray player.
Until then, it will be the movie enthusiasts with huge TVs and lots of expensive equipment and money to burn.Also, those of us who like to collect DVDs on our computer, well we also don't like blu-ray because, well DVDs copy effortlessly for the most part.
Copying a blu-ray (in a usable way) requires special (and non-free) software, which only works in Windows, and plus it requires a lot of hard drive space.
The world is moving more towards mobile devices... whether I use the blu-ray or the DVD to produce the file to put on my iPod doesn't matter much, but the DVD is cheaper, and easier to rip.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664108</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666126</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269880140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I give you an apple and you give me an apple we both have one apple.<br>If I share my information with you and you share your information with me we both have more information.<br>I guess nobody really taught us the difference between apples and oranges.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I give you an apple and you give me an apple we both have one apple.If I share my information with you and you share your information with me we both have more information.I guess nobody really taught us the difference between apples and oranges .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I give you an apple and you give me an apple we both have one apple.If I share my information with you and you share your information with me we both have more information.I guess nobody really taught us the difference between apples and oranges.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665560</id>
	<title>Re:It's A Fight To The Death ...</title>
	<author>DigiShaman</author>
	<datestamp>1269875520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have it all wrong pal. These are ninjas at work. They are sneaky bastards that hide behind the front lines, then swoop in for the kill. Clearly, it's Pirates vs Ninjas!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have it all wrong pal .
These are ninjas at work .
They are sneaky bastards that hide behind the front lines , then swoop in for the kill .
Clearly , it 's Pirates vs Ninjas ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have it all wrong pal.
These are ninjas at work.
They are sneaky bastards that hide behind the front lines, then swoop in for the kill.
Clearly, it's Pirates vs Ninjas!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664012</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665934</id>
	<title>Re:They are fighting nature</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269878280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quality films are difficult to create without the potential for monetization; video games as well. There are many media that require a substantial financial investment to realize.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Love for the art irrelevant, it costs actual money to provide certain--very valid--forms of art.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Quality films are difficult to create without the potential for monetization ; video games as well .
There are many media that require a substantial financial investment to realize .
  Love for the art irrelevant , it costs actual money to provide certain--very valid--forms of art .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quality films are difficult to create without the potential for monetization; video games as well.
There are many media that require a substantial financial investment to realize.
  Love for the art irrelevant, it costs actual money to provide certain--very valid--forms of art.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664212</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664368</id>
	<title>Consent?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Warner Brothers is participating in a BitTorrent swarm, uploading files on which they own the copyright, does that imply that anyone is free to accept what they are offering?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Warner Brothers is participating in a BitTorrent swarm , uploading files on which they own the copyright , does that imply that anyone is free to accept what they are offering ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Warner Brothers is participating in a BitTorrent swarm, uploading files on which they own the copyright, does that imply that anyone is free to accept what they are offering?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664438</id>
	<title>As useless as a finger in the dyke</title>
	<author>Trip6</author>
	<datestamp>1269868260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meant in the metaphorical sense, get your mind out of the gutter!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meant in the metaphorical sense , get your mind out of the gutter !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meant in the metaphorical sense, get your mind out of the gutter!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31674162</id>
	<title>Re:Keep going</title>
	<author>DDLKermit007</author>
	<datestamp>1269974640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's coming slowly...It's called Netflix instant streaming. So worth it to me to pay the $10 a month just for that. The selection does suck somewhat, but it's getting better. The studios already know they are going to lose if they try to fight Netflix. It's the best thing going right now for them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's coming slowly...It 's called Netflix instant streaming .
So worth it to me to pay the $ 10 a month just for that .
The selection does suck somewhat , but it 's getting better .
The studios already know they are going to lose if they try to fight Netflix .
It 's the best thing going right now for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's coming slowly...It's called Netflix instant streaming.
So worth it to me to pay the $10 a month just for that.
The selection does suck somewhat, but it's getting better.
The studios already know they are going to lose if they try to fight Netflix.
It's the best thing going right now for them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664612</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664184</id>
	<title>Make that unauthorized file-sharing</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1269866940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the<br>&gt; Internet.</p><p>Make that unauthorized file-sharing.  There are people who have no interest WB's crap: they are unaffected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the &gt; Internet.Make that unauthorized file-sharing .
There are people who have no interest WB 's crap : they are unaffected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; causing general frustration amongst the file-sharing population on the&gt; Internet.Make that unauthorized file-sharing.
There are people who have no interest WB's crap: they are unaffected.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666586</id>
	<title>One word ...</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1269884940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Entrapment.</p><p><i>ensnaring users in incriminating transactions</i></p><p>The police aren't allowed to do this, why are movie studios ?</p><p>Maybe the authors of torrent clients should implement an IP checklist, so that any known movie studio IPs that are found to be seeding get snapshotted and can be included in court submissions as illegal entrapment tactics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Entrapment.ensnaring users in incriminating transactionsThe police are n't allowed to do this , why are movie studios ? Maybe the authors of torrent clients should implement an IP checklist , so that any known movie studio IPs that are found to be seeding get snapshotted and can be included in court submissions as illegal entrapment tactics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Entrapment.ensnaring users in incriminating transactionsThe police aren't allowed to do this, why are movie studios ?Maybe the authors of torrent clients should implement an IP checklist, so that any known movie studio IPs that are found to be seeding get snapshotted and can be included in court submissions as illegal entrapment tactics.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665128</id>
	<title>By what means</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269872160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are they going to upload fake torrents, because that already happens, and thanks to ratings, the fakes are found and banned.<br>
Are they going to pack viruses in torrents? That already happens, maybe not by them, but see above.<br>
Are they going to upload fake articles (because this is where the leechers [seeders] get their material).<br>
Are they going to troll irc and try to trade with people....Does this seriously happen still? It's not 1995.<br> <br>
I thought we'd already cleared up that the legal avenues that the **AAs pursue are scurrilous already, and anything of this nature would start to be illegal.<br> <br>The intern could also learn a very valuable lesson that the studios would have no interest in hearing. The underground exists because you aren't doing anything to monetize on it. You put out an inferior product that is crippled, and what these people offer is what everyone wants. An easy to obtain, high quality media product, without all the garbage that you force people to accept (unskippable menus, DRM, non-digital stores). You'd still see people not willing to pay, but you'd see profits skyrocket if you'd just accept that this is what people want instead of fighting it, and pretending it's still 1991.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are they going to upload fake torrents , because that already happens , and thanks to ratings , the fakes are found and banned .
Are they going to pack viruses in torrents ?
That already happens , maybe not by them , but see above .
Are they going to upload fake articles ( because this is where the leechers [ seeders ] get their material ) .
Are they going to troll irc and try to trade with people....Does this seriously happen still ?
It 's not 1995 .
I thought we 'd already cleared up that the legal avenues that the * * AAs pursue are scurrilous already , and anything of this nature would start to be illegal .
The intern could also learn a very valuable lesson that the studios would have no interest in hearing .
The underground exists because you are n't doing anything to monetize on it .
You put out an inferior product that is crippled , and what these people offer is what everyone wants .
An easy to obtain , high quality media product , without all the garbage that you force people to accept ( unskippable menus , DRM , non-digital stores ) .
You 'd still see people not willing to pay , but you 'd see profits skyrocket if you 'd just accept that this is what people want instead of fighting it , and pretending it 's still 1991 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are they going to upload fake torrents, because that already happens, and thanks to ratings, the fakes are found and banned.
Are they going to pack viruses in torrents?
That already happens, maybe not by them, but see above.
Are they going to upload fake articles (because this is where the leechers [seeders] get their material).
Are they going to troll irc and try to trade with people....Does this seriously happen still?
It's not 1995.
I thought we'd already cleared up that the legal avenues that the **AAs pursue are scurrilous already, and anything of this nature would start to be illegal.
The intern could also learn a very valuable lesson that the studios would have no interest in hearing.
The underground exists because you aren't doing anything to monetize on it.
You put out an inferior product that is crippled, and what these people offer is what everyone wants.
An easy to obtain, high quality media product, without all the garbage that you force people to accept (unskippable menus, DRM, non-digital stores).
You'd still see people not willing to pay, but you'd see profits skyrocket if you'd just accept that this is what people want instead of fighting it, and pretending it's still 1991.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Lets rephrase this and see how it looks :</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1269943920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Duke of Cornwall hires Swiss mercenaries to crack down on illegal trading of grain to protect his hereditary rights"</p><p>history repeats itself. if you let groups and people become feudal lords, they crack down on the people,f or their 'rights'. whats absurd that, after a point, they start to define what is a 'right' themselves, totally free of the people's will.</p><p>see, copyright was intended for 20 or so years at the start. now its 90 years. trademark was invented to protect well known brand names, now it has become something that you can lay claim to words, anywhere, any use. patents were supposedly to spur innovation, now they are tools with which you can lay claim to genes, and soon laws of nature. (well because you found them first, right ).</p><p>its stupid. we need to abolish these before we end up with a new, this time intellectual feudal aristocracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Duke of Cornwall hires Swiss mercenaries to crack down on illegal trading of grain to protect his hereditary rights " history repeats itself .
if you let groups and people become feudal lords , they crack down on the people,f or their 'rights' .
whats absurd that , after a point , they start to define what is a 'right ' themselves , totally free of the people 's will.see , copyright was intended for 20 or so years at the start .
now its 90 years .
trademark was invented to protect well known brand names , now it has become something that you can lay claim to words , anywhere , any use .
patents were supposedly to spur innovation , now they are tools with which you can lay claim to genes , and soon laws of nature .
( well because you found them first , right ) .its stupid .
we need to abolish these before we end up with a new , this time intellectual feudal aristocracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Duke of Cornwall hires Swiss mercenaries to crack down on illegal trading of grain to protect his hereditary rights"history repeats itself.
if you let groups and people become feudal lords, they crack down on the people,f or their 'rights'.
whats absurd that, after a point, they start to define what is a 'right' themselves, totally free of the people's will.see, copyright was intended for 20 or so years at the start.
now its 90 years.
trademark was invented to protect well known brand names, now it has become something that you can lay claim to words, anywhere, any use.
patents were supposedly to spur innovation, now they are tools with which you can lay claim to genes, and soon laws of nature.
(well because you found them first, right ).its stupid.
we need to abolish these before we end up with a new, this time intellectual feudal aristocracy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664100</id>
	<title>They keep spending money on this</title>
	<author>kawabago</author>
	<datestamp>1269866580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The entertainment industry keeps pouring money into anti-piracy and they keep getting further behind. The millions of dollars the industry spends on these campaigns bring in absolutely zero in increased revenue. If the industry took the position that file traders don't matter and that people who buy movies and music are the ones that do matter, they could then spend this money reaching out to people who will buy and bring in increased profits. Continuing to invest in the people who aren't interested in buying is only going to increase costs and drive paying customers away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The entertainment industry keeps pouring money into anti-piracy and they keep getting further behind .
The millions of dollars the industry spends on these campaigns bring in absolutely zero in increased revenue .
If the industry took the position that file traders do n't matter and that people who buy movies and music are the ones that do matter , they could then spend this money reaching out to people who will buy and bring in increased profits .
Continuing to invest in the people who are n't interested in buying is only going to increase costs and drive paying customers away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The entertainment industry keeps pouring money into anti-piracy and they keep getting further behind.
The millions of dollars the industry spends on these campaigns bring in absolutely zero in increased revenue.
If the industry took the position that file traders don't matter and that people who buy movies and music are the ones that do matter, they could then spend this money reaching out to people who will buy and bring in increased profits.
Continuing to invest in the people who aren't interested in buying is only going to increase costs and drive paying customers away.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31677132</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1269942060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Yes, I see your flashy menu. It's nice. Now can we get on with the playing of the movie please? No? Oh good, now you're showing me all the funny parts of the movie in the menu before I've even seen the movie. Can I turn subtitles off now? More animation? All I did was press a button, I don't need a damn light show congratulating me on it.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Perfectly put.

</p><p>Someone gave me a Sanyo DVD/VHS a while back and it had this great feature: auto-play. This finds the longest track on the disc and starts playing it the moment you insert the disc. No unskippable intro, FBI warnings, no menu, nothing else. When done, it stops and shows the player's logo screen, at which point you can press Menu if you feel like being abused. Too bad its component video output had the black level wrong, which made everything look bad in a subtle way.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I see your flashy menu .
It 's nice .
Now can we get on with the playing of the movie please ?
No ? Oh good , now you 're showing me all the funny parts of the movie in the menu before I 've even seen the movie .
Can I turn subtitles off now ?
More animation ?
All I did was press a button , I do n't need a damn light show congratulating me on it .
Perfectly put .
Someone gave me a Sanyo DVD/VHS a while back and it had this great feature : auto-play .
This finds the longest track on the disc and starts playing it the moment you insert the disc .
No unskippable intro , FBI warnings , no menu , nothing else .
When done , it stops and shows the player 's logo screen , at which point you can press Menu if you feel like being abused .
Too bad its component video output had the black level wrong , which made everything look bad in a subtle way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I see your flashy menu.
It's nice.
Now can we get on with the playing of the movie please?
No? Oh good, now you're showing me all the funny parts of the movie in the menu before I've even seen the movie.
Can I turn subtitles off now?
More animation?
All I did was press a button, I don't need a damn light show congratulating me on it.
Perfectly put.
Someone gave me a Sanyo DVD/VHS a while back and it had this great feature: auto-play.
This finds the longest track on the disc and starts playing it the moment you insert the disc.
No unskippable intro, FBI warnings, no menu, nothing else.
When done, it stops and shows the player's logo screen, at which point you can press Menu if you feel like being abused.
Too bad its component video output had the black level wrong, which made everything look bad in a subtle way.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664262</id>
	<title>I see a new "troll" label in the making</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any poster who promotes DRM or blasts piracy, is going to be called a WB tool from now on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any poster who promotes DRM or blasts piracy , is going to be called a WB tool from now on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any poster who promotes DRM or blasts piracy, is going to be called a WB tool from now on.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31666360</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269882540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Insightful? Seriously?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Insightful ?
Seriously ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Insightful?
Seriously?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31664532</id>
	<title>Re:Won't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269868740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When you legitimately buy a movie</p></div><p>There is no such thing as buying a movie... unless maybe if you are the producer.<br>Since you only get a <em>license</em> for limited use.</p><p>But even if you could freely use it, there still is no such thing as ownership of information. Because ownership is defined as having certain abilities, like control over it. Which for information, is only possible, if it has never left your mind. But then you can also not prove its existence.<br>As soon as you let it out, you just split control with whoever received it.</p><p>Which means that it&rsquo;s absurd to speak of &ldquo;ownership&rdquo;, when talking about information.<br>Information is free. Period. And just like with gravity, there is nothing, anyone can do about it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When you legitimately buy a movieThere is no such thing as buying a movie... unless maybe if you are the producer.Since you only get a license for limited use.But even if you could freely use it , there still is no such thing as ownership of information .
Because ownership is defined as having certain abilities , like control over it .
Which for information , is only possible , if it has never left your mind .
But then you can also not prove its existence.As soon as you let it out , you just split control with whoever received it.Which means that it    s absurd to speak of    ownership    , when talking about information.Information is free .
Period. And just like with gravity , there is nothing , anyone can do about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you legitimately buy a movieThere is no such thing as buying a movie... unless maybe if you are the producer.Since you only get a license for limited use.But even if you could freely use it, there still is no such thing as ownership of information.
Because ownership is defined as having certain abilities, like control over it.
Which for information, is only possible, if it has never left your mind.
But then you can also not prove its existence.As soon as you let it out, you just split control with whoever received it.Which means that it’s absurd to speak of “ownership”, when talking about information.Information is free.
Period. And just like with gravity, there is nothing, anyone can do about it.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665600</id>
	<title>Just buy the effing movie!</title>
	<author>CohibaVancouver</author>
	<datestamp>1269875760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you want 2012 or the latest Transforming robots movie just effing go Wal-Mart or hit Amazon and buy the effing thing!</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want 2012 or the latest Transforming robots movie just effing go Wal-Mart or hit Amazon and buy the effing thing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want 2012 or the latest Transforming robots movie just effing go Wal-Mart or hit Amazon and buy the effing thing!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31667316</id>
	<title>Re:My only question is...</title>
	<author>barefoothannibal</author>
	<datestamp>1269979860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's like the <a href="http://img.moronail.net/img/0/1/1601.jpg" title="moronail.net" rel="nofollow"> shirt </a> [moronail.net] says...</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's like the shirt [ moronail.net ] says.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's like the  shirt  [moronail.net] says...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31674988</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting tactic, won't work.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269977820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts.  That alone will take a huge chunk out of P2P.</p></div><p>Done - Icon Home Entertainment UK are moving to pricing parity on all of their releases as of 1st April - a rather enlightened approach.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts .
That alone will take a huge chunk out of P2P.Done - Icon Home Entertainment UK are moving to pricing parity on all of their releases as of 1st April - a rather enlightened approach .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  Start by reducing the price of Blu-Ray movies to the same price as their DVD counterparts.
That alone will take a huge chunk out of P2P.Done - Icon Home Entertainment UK are moving to pricing parity on all of their releases as of 1st April - a rather enlightened approach.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_2142255.31665704</id>
	<title>Re:They keep spending money on this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269876480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The entertainment industry keeps pouring money into anti-piracy and they keep getting further behind. The millions of dollars the industry spends on these campaigns bring in absolutely zero in increased revenue. If the industry took the position that file traders don't matter and that people who buy movies and music are the ones that do matter, they could then spend this money reaching out to people who will buy and bring in increased profits. Continuing to invest in the people who aren't interested in buying is only going to increase costs and drive paying customers away.</p></div><p>EXACTLY!!!  i understand if they want to make it more difficult, its a game of cat and mouse.  but the studios spend too much money going after people that arent really costing them money.  i fail to believe if the studios could take down BT that their revenues would increase dramatically.</p><p>if they are going to keep giving michael bay money then i am going to make sure it isnt mine</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The entertainment industry keeps pouring money into anti-piracy and they keep getting further behind .
The millions of dollars the industry spends on these campaigns bring in absolutely zero in increased revenue .
If the industry took the position that file traders do n't matter and that people who buy movies and music are the ones that do matter , they could then spend this money reaching out to people who will buy and bring in increased profits .
Continuing to invest in the people who are n't interested in buying is only going to increase costs and drive paying customers away.EXACTLY ! ! !
i understand if they want to make it more difficult , its a game of cat and mouse .
but the studios spend too much money going after people that arent really costing them money .
i fail to believe if the studios could take down BT that their revenues would increase dramatically.if they are going to keep giving michael bay money then i am going to make sure it isnt mine</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The entertainment industry keeps pouring money into anti-piracy and they keep getting further behind.
The millions of dollars the industry spends on these campaigns bring in absolutely zero in increased revenue.
If the industry took the position that file traders don't matter and that people who buy movies and music are the ones that do matter, they could then spend this money reaching out to people who will buy and bring in increased profits.
Continuing to invest in the people who aren't interested in buying is only going to increase costs and drive paying customers away.EXACTLY!!!
i understand if they want to make it more difficult, its a game of cat and mouse.
but the studios spend too much money going after people that arent really costing them money.
i fail to believe if the studios could take down BT that their revenues would increase dramatically.if they are going to keep giving michael bay money then i am going to make sure it isnt mine
	</sentencetext>
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