<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_29_020205</id>
	<title>Will Your Car Tell You To Put Down the Phone?</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1269887280000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>crimeandpunishment writes with this story from the AP: <i>"We know it's dangerous to text while driving, or talk on a cell phone without using a hands-free device.  What if our car knew it as well, and warned us about it?  Our cars buzz and beep at us when our seatbelts aren't buckled ... now there are new applications in the works that <a href="http://skunkpost.com/news.sp?newsId=1986">could lead to a warning if we're driving with a cell phone in our hand</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>crimeandpunishment writes with this story from the AP : " We know it 's dangerous to text while driving , or talk on a cell phone without using a hands-free device .
What if our car knew it as well , and warned us about it ?
Our cars buzz and beep at us when our seatbelts are n't buckled ... now there are new applications in the works that could lead to a warning if we 're driving with a cell phone in our hand .
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<sentencetext>crimeandpunishment writes with this story from the AP: "We know it's dangerous to text while driving, or talk on a cell phone without using a hands-free device.
What if our car knew it as well, and warned us about it?
Our cars buzz and beep at us when our seatbelts aren't buckled ... now there are new applications in the works that could lead to a warning if we're driving with a cell phone in our hand.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31658494</id>
	<title>Re:How about this?</title>
	<author>eth1</author>
	<datestamp>1269883020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can forget to put a seatbelt on, although it is quite hard...</p></div><p>I haven't consciously put a seatbelt on in years. Although it somehow ends up buckled anyway, even when I'm just backing into the driveway.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can forget to put a seatbelt on , although it is quite hard...I have n't consciously put a seatbelt on in years .
Although it somehow ends up buckled anyway , even when I 'm just backing into the driveway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can forget to put a seatbelt on, although it is quite hard...I haven't consciously put a seatbelt on in years.
Although it somehow ends up buckled anyway, even when I'm just backing into the driveway.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653992</id>
	<title>Number one cause of accidents?</title>
	<author>jafo</author>
	<datestamp>1269805440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know what the current numbers are, but as of a couple of years ago the story was that the leading cause of distracted driver accidents was messing with the climate control and radio.  So, yeah, let's go for saving lives and make it so you can't change the radio station, volume, or adjust the temperature.  There will probably have to be congressional hearings on whether defogging of the windows is worth the risk involved in enabling it.  I guess for safety's sake we should just make defogging be on all the time, just in case.<br><br>I personally think that the real problem is people not giving the driving the attention it requires.  Whether it's your child (my wife was once rear-ended by a woman in a SUV because she was watching her child in the back seat -- did I mention we drive an impossible-to-miss yellow car), having a beverage, or adjusting the climate control...  You need to pay attention to the weapon you are steering.<br><br>Sean</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know what the current numbers are , but as of a couple of years ago the story was that the leading cause of distracted driver accidents was messing with the climate control and radio .
So , yeah , let 's go for saving lives and make it so you ca n't change the radio station , volume , or adjust the temperature .
There will probably have to be congressional hearings on whether defogging of the windows is worth the risk involved in enabling it .
I guess for safety 's sake we should just make defogging be on all the time , just in case.I personally think that the real problem is people not giving the driving the attention it requires .
Whether it 's your child ( my wife was once rear-ended by a woman in a SUV because she was watching her child in the back seat -- did I mention we drive an impossible-to-miss yellow car ) , having a beverage , or adjusting the climate control... You need to pay attention to the weapon you are steering.Sean</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know what the current numbers are, but as of a couple of years ago the story was that the leading cause of distracted driver accidents was messing with the climate control and radio.
So, yeah, let's go for saving lives and make it so you can't change the radio station, volume, or adjust the temperature.
There will probably have to be congressional hearings on whether defogging of the windows is worth the risk involved in enabling it.
I guess for safety's sake we should just make defogging be on all the time, just in case.I personally think that the real problem is people not giving the driving the attention it requires.
Whether it's your child (my wife was once rear-ended by a woman in a SUV because she was watching her child in the back seat -- did I mention we drive an impossible-to-miss yellow car), having a beverage, or adjusting the climate control...  You need to pay attention to the weapon you are steering.Sean</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654070</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>grrrl</author>
	<datestamp>1269892920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oooh it can be done? One reason I'm loathe to even consider buying a new car is the horrid torrent of beeps and sweeps and bleeps that seem to come at you from all angles. I drove my sister's car and it beeped at me to put the seatbelt on on the passenger side, because I had put my bag (with laptop) on the passenger seat!! And a lot of new cars beep when you open the door with the keys in - SO WHAT? I do this constantly (when security is not an issue, eg if you're sitting in the car waiting for someone, it's the best place to leave your keys!!)</p><p>So yes, if these beeps can be disabled I may actually buy a new car one day. For now I'll stick to my old and blessedly silent car. I've only accidently left the lights on (flat battery) once in four years - a small price to pay for peace and quiet!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oooh it can be done ?
One reason I 'm loathe to even consider buying a new car is the horrid torrent of beeps and sweeps and bleeps that seem to come at you from all angles .
I drove my sister 's car and it beeped at me to put the seatbelt on on the passenger side , because I had put my bag ( with laptop ) on the passenger seat ! !
And a lot of new cars beep when you open the door with the keys in - SO WHAT ?
I do this constantly ( when security is not an issue , eg if you 're sitting in the car waiting for someone , it 's the best place to leave your keys ! !
) So yes , if these beeps can be disabled I may actually buy a new car one day .
For now I 'll stick to my old and blessedly silent car .
I 've only accidently left the lights on ( flat battery ) once in four years - a small price to pay for peace and quiet !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oooh it can be done?
One reason I'm loathe to even consider buying a new car is the horrid torrent of beeps and sweeps and bleeps that seem to come at you from all angles.
I drove my sister's car and it beeped at me to put the seatbelt on on the passenger side, because I had put my bag (with laptop) on the passenger seat!!
And a lot of new cars beep when you open the door with the keys in - SO WHAT?
I do this constantly (when security is not an issue, eg if you're sitting in the car waiting for someone, it's the best place to leave your keys!!
)So yes, if these beeps can be disabled I may actually buy a new car one day.
For now I'll stick to my old and blessedly silent car.
I've only accidently left the lights on (flat battery) once in four years - a small price to pay for peace and quiet!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653966</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654124</id>
	<title>How about this?</title>
	<author>Kokuyo</author>
	<datestamp>1269893400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The people that ignore those laws and accept the danger inherent in being distracted from driving don't do so because they don't know better. No, I'm not shitting you!</p><p>You can forget to put a seatbelt on, although it is quite hard, and you can easily forget to turn the headlights off. But you cannot forget that you are texting while driving. So unless this system pulls the car over at the next save opportunity and doesn't let you start the engine until you've put the fricking phone away, this won't do squat.</p><p>Everyone else who commented that there are other, and worse, distractions, are correct. But people talking on the phone is something that is so easily fixed with just a few bucks, that I find it really annoying that people still keep holding onto their phones.</p><p>The interesting part around here (Switzerland)? Most of those people don't drive cheap, old Skodas or Renaults, no siree-bob. They're usually wearing business suits and driving new Audi, BMW, Mercedes or Lexus. Now if a single mother of three without a job is on her way to an interview and needs to contact her potential employer due to a detour, that I could understand. Fifty bucks, to her, are probably a lot of cash.</p><p>But this guy with the 1000$ suit and the 130'000$ car just does not get to use that excuse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The people that ignore those laws and accept the danger inherent in being distracted from driving do n't do so because they do n't know better .
No , I 'm not shitting you ! You can forget to put a seatbelt on , although it is quite hard , and you can easily forget to turn the headlights off .
But you can not forget that you are texting while driving .
So unless this system pulls the car over at the next save opportunity and does n't let you start the engine until you 've put the fricking phone away , this wo n't do squat.Everyone else who commented that there are other , and worse , distractions , are correct .
But people talking on the phone is something that is so easily fixed with just a few bucks , that I find it really annoying that people still keep holding onto their phones.The interesting part around here ( Switzerland ) ?
Most of those people do n't drive cheap , old Skodas or Renaults , no siree-bob .
They 're usually wearing business suits and driving new Audi , BMW , Mercedes or Lexus .
Now if a single mother of three without a job is on her way to an interview and needs to contact her potential employer due to a detour , that I could understand .
Fifty bucks , to her , are probably a lot of cash.But this guy with the 1000 $ suit and the 130'000 $ car just does not get to use that excuse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The people that ignore those laws and accept the danger inherent in being distracted from driving don't do so because they don't know better.
No, I'm not shitting you!You can forget to put a seatbelt on, although it is quite hard, and you can easily forget to turn the headlights off.
But you cannot forget that you are texting while driving.
So unless this system pulls the car over at the next save opportunity and doesn't let you start the engine until you've put the fricking phone away, this won't do squat.Everyone else who commented that there are other, and worse, distractions, are correct.
But people talking on the phone is something that is so easily fixed with just a few bucks, that I find it really annoying that people still keep holding onto their phones.The interesting part around here (Switzerland)?
Most of those people don't drive cheap, old Skodas or Renaults, no siree-bob.
They're usually wearing business suits and driving new Audi, BMW, Mercedes or Lexus.
Now if a single mother of three without a job is on her way to an interview and needs to contact her potential employer due to a detour, that I could understand.
Fifty bucks, to her, are probably a lot of cash.But this guy with the 1000$ suit and the 130'000$ car just does not get to use that excuse.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656294</id>
	<title>You have 20 seconds to....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269873900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Based on "previous experience" regarding humans and handguns, and, maybe, face recognition - one might venture to postulate that backlighted and/or better melanized humans will be at a greater risk of "non-compliance" ?</p><p>And, since "being fat is the next tobacco", what's next ? Abstracted-weight-indicator-evaluation ("you look fat" - YLF) locks on refrigerators, food cupboards, cookie-jars... ? THX-1138 ? But, don't worry, I won't mention zombie marches. At least, not here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Based on " previous experience " regarding humans and handguns , and , maybe , face recognition - one might venture to postulate that backlighted and/or better melanized humans will be at a greater risk of " non-compliance " ? And , since " being fat is the next tobacco " , what 's next ?
Abstracted-weight-indicator-evaluation ( " you look fat " - YLF ) locks on refrigerators , food cupboards , cookie-jars... ? THX-1138 ?
But , do n't worry , I wo n't mention zombie marches .
At least , not here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Based on "previous experience" regarding humans and handguns, and, maybe, face recognition - one might venture to postulate that backlighted and/or better melanized humans will be at a greater risk of "non-compliance" ?And, since "being fat is the next tobacco", what's next ?
Abstracted-weight-indicator-evaluation ("you look fat" - YLF) locks on refrigerators, food cupboards, cookie-jars... ? THX-1138 ?
But, don't worry, I won't mention zombie marches.
At least, not here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655544</id>
	<title>Maybe</title>
	<author>rossdee</author>
	<datestamp>1269869220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your phone will tell your car to stop.</p><p>Anyway why do they build cell towers by the interstates?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your phone will tell your car to stop.Anyway why do they build cell towers by the interstates ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your phone will tell your car to stop.Anyway why do they build cell towers by the interstates?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656126</id>
	<title>My phone already does...</title>
	<author>PalmKiller</author>
	<datestamp>1269873060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>but my wife is usually on the other end.  It goes something like this,<br>Wife: Are you driving?<br>Me: Yes<br>Wife: While you are talking to me?<br>Me: Yes Dear<br>Wife: You know its not good to talk and drive, pull over or call me back when you get there<br>Me: Yes Dear<br>Wife: Click<br>Me: Hey Dude, what's up?<br>Friend: Not much, I thought you had to call your wife.<br>Me: I did, but she said to call her back later<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but my wife is usually on the other end .
It goes something like this,Wife : Are you driving ? Me : YesWife : While you are talking to me ? Me : Yes DearWife : You know its not good to talk and drive , pull over or call me back when you get thereMe : Yes DearWife : ClickMe : Hey Dude , what 's up ? Friend : Not much , I thought you had to call your wife.Me : I did , but she said to call her back later .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but my wife is usually on the other end.
It goes something like this,Wife: Are you driving?Me: YesWife: While you are talking to me?Me: Yes DearWife: You know its not good to talk and drive, pull over or call me back when you get thereMe: Yes DearWife: ClickMe: Hey Dude, what's up?Friend: Not much, I thought you had to call your wife.Me: I did, but she said to call her back later ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654264</id>
	<title>Re:Pressure monitors in the steering wheel</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1269895500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway."</p><p>You might suspect so.  You might also find some citations.  I'm one who often drives with one hand.  I just can't sit in one position, with both hands in almost the same position all day long.  Of course, I'm sure that you only sit behind the wheel for 15 to 30 minutes at a time, and have little idea what a twelve hour drive is like, when the vehicle DEMANDS that both hand be positioned just so.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;^)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway .
" You might suspect so .
You might also find some citations .
I 'm one who often drives with one hand .
I just ca n't sit in one position , with both hands in almost the same position all day long .
Of course , I 'm sure that you only sit behind the wheel for 15 to 30 minutes at a time , and have little idea what a twelve hour drive is like , when the vehicle DEMANDS that both hand be positioned just so .
; ^ )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway.
"You might suspect so.
You might also find some citations.
I'm one who often drives with one hand.
I just can't sit in one position, with both hands in almost the same position all day long.
Of course, I'm sure that you only sit behind the wheel for 15 to 30 minutes at a time, and have little idea what a twelve hour drive is like, when the vehicle DEMANDS that both hand be positioned just so.
;^)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653978</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31663184</id>
	<title>Well, that's just great.</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1269861540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Yet another distraction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yet another distraction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Yet another distraction.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655764</id>
	<title>Speakerphones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269870840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How hard is it for phone manufacturers to make a handset with a Really Freakin' Loud speakerphone?</p><p>When I am not in my own car (with a car-kit) I use the iPhone's built-in speaker and it sucks badly. I end up holding the phone an inch from my ear and might as well just be using it normally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How hard is it for phone manufacturers to make a handset with a Really Freakin ' Loud speakerphone ? When I am not in my own car ( with a car-kit ) I use the iPhone 's built-in speaker and it sucks badly .
I end up holding the phone an inch from my ear and might as well just be using it normally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How hard is it for phone manufacturers to make a handset with a Really Freakin' Loud speakerphone?When I am not in my own car (with a car-kit) I use the iPhone's built-in speaker and it sucks badly.
I end up holding the phone an inch from my ear and might as well just be using it normally.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655224</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>Sir\_Lewk</author>
	<datestamp>1269865680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>my boss got me one</p></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><p>the boss called me to rag on me. He got moderately abusive</p></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><p>Instead of making my turn, I drove across the state line</p></div></blockquote><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...Thus sticking him with long-distance charges.</p><p>You sir, are a genius!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>my boss got me onethe boss called me to rag on me .
He got moderately abusiveInstead of making my turn , I drove across the state line ...Thus sticking him with long-distance charges.You sir , are a genius !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my boss got me onethe boss called me to rag on me.
He got moderately abusiveInstead of making my turn, I drove across the state line ...Thus sticking him with long-distance charges.You sir, are a genius!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654216</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655024</id>
	<title>Re:as it is</title>
	<author>ZeroExistenZ</author>
	<datestamp>1269863280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>instead of holding the phone up by your face where you can see the road you have to hold it down in your lap.</p></div></blockquote><p>Why not? I hold my Android phone in my right hand often to switch my music, which is connected to my aux-port in my car. (there's no bluetooth in my company car, but I do love the 9.5mm aux port. A bluetooth headset while the Android is plugged into the aux-port works as well for controls on my headset resting around my neck but it's kindof a silly setup.)</p><p>If those alarms would fire if I were to switch my tunes (just slide over the screen for the "next random song") I'd be bound to CDs and wont be able to listen my podcasts.</p><p>car: "Put the phone down.."<br>"Just two seconds.. must.. find.."<br>car: "If you don't put the phone down I'll turn around"<br>".. good song.. next.. next.."<br>car: "You've been warned.."<br>"Oh no! Toyota-bug!!"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>instead of holding the phone up by your face where you can see the road you have to hold it down in your lap.Why not ?
I hold my Android phone in my right hand often to switch my music , which is connected to my aux-port in my car .
( there 's no bluetooth in my company car , but I do love the 9.5mm aux port .
A bluetooth headset while the Android is plugged into the aux-port works as well for controls on my headset resting around my neck but it 's kindof a silly setup .
) If those alarms would fire if I were to switch my tunes ( just slide over the screen for the " next random song " ) I 'd be bound to CDs and wont be able to listen my podcasts.car : " Put the phone down.. " " Just two seconds.. must.. find.. " car : " If you do n't put the phone down I 'll turn around " " .. good song.. next.. next.. " car : " You 've been warned.. " " Oh no !
Toyota-bug ! ! "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>instead of holding the phone up by your face where you can see the road you have to hold it down in your lap.Why not?
I hold my Android phone in my right hand often to switch my music, which is connected to my aux-port in my car.
(there's no bluetooth in my company car, but I do love the 9.5mm aux port.
A bluetooth headset while the Android is plugged into the aux-port works as well for controls on my headset resting around my neck but it's kindof a silly setup.
)If those alarms would fire if I were to switch my tunes (just slide over the screen for the "next random song") I'd be bound to CDs and wont be able to listen my podcasts.car: "Put the phone down..""Just two seconds.. must.. find.."car: "If you don't put the phone down I'll turn around"".. good song.. next.. next.."car: "You've been warned..""Oh no!
Toyota-bug!!"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653932</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31658254</id>
	<title>Dive?</title>
	<author>antdude</author>
	<datestamp>1269881940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um, how do you dive in/out a car?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , how do you dive in/out a car ?
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, how do you dive in/out a car?
:P</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653968</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654042</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269806040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I thought it was still up in the air. Isn't the distraction being on a call?</p></div><p>
It's pretty clear to me that the danger comes from divided attention and the level of concentration required to interact in a remote conversation with terrible signal to noise.
</p><p>
If the danger arose from holding the phone to your ear then we should also outlaw scratching your ear and adjusting your glasses.  The current law is safety theater.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it was still up in the air .
Is n't the distraction being on a call ?
It 's pretty clear to me that the danger comes from divided attention and the level of concentration required to interact in a remote conversation with terrible signal to noise .
If the danger arose from holding the phone to your ear then we should also outlaw scratching your ear and adjusting your glasses .
The current law is safety theater .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it was still up in the air.
Isn't the distraction being on a call?
It's pretty clear to me that the danger comes from divided attention and the level of concentration required to interact in a remote conversation with terrible signal to noise.
If the danger arose from holding the phone to your ear then we should also outlaw scratching your ear and adjusting your glasses.
The current law is safety theater.

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655696</id>
	<title>Re:How about this?</title>
	<author>aaronl</author>
	<datestamp>1269870240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about near the motorway?   On the shoulder of one, calling for help?  Calls that are data only?  (Those are still normal cellphones underneath, with a number and everything.)  Should passengers be allowed to use the phone?  What of people who live in buildings adjacent to them?</p><p>Of course, this is all assuming that you can even tell that someone is on a roadway with any amount of certainty.</p><p>Deliberately breaking a class of technology isn't going to stop people from being distracted while driving a car.  I would wager that someone on an animated phone call is still safer than all the people that read while driving.</p><p>Your scenario is more likely to end up like the annoying GPS systems that lock the screen out from changes while moving: disabled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about near the motorway ?
On the shoulder of one , calling for help ?
Calls that are data only ?
( Those are still normal cellphones underneath , with a number and everything .
) Should passengers be allowed to use the phone ?
What of people who live in buildings adjacent to them ? Of course , this is all assuming that you can even tell that someone is on a roadway with any amount of certainty.Deliberately breaking a class of technology is n't going to stop people from being distracted while driving a car .
I would wager that someone on an animated phone call is still safer than all the people that read while driving.Your scenario is more likely to end up like the annoying GPS systems that lock the screen out from changes while moving : disabled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about near the motorway?
On the shoulder of one, calling for help?
Calls that are data only?
(Those are still normal cellphones underneath, with a number and everything.
)  Should passengers be allowed to use the phone?
What of people who live in buildings adjacent to them?Of course, this is all assuming that you can even tell that someone is on a roadway with any amount of certainty.Deliberately breaking a class of technology isn't going to stop people from being distracted while driving a car.
I would wager that someone on an animated phone call is still safer than all the people that read while driving.Your scenario is more likely to end up like the annoying GPS systems that lock the screen out from changes while moving: disabled.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655054</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654034</id>
	<title>Driver or passenger?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269805980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How would it distinguish between the driver and passengers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How would it distinguish between the driver and passengers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How would it distinguish between the driver and passengers?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653968</id>
	<title>Better to warn everyone else.</title>
	<author>Kenja</author>
	<datestamp>1269805200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about the headlights flash when the driver is using their cell phone so everyone else knows to dive out of the way?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about the headlights flash when the driver is using their cell phone so everyone else knows to dive out of the way ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about the headlights flash when the driver is using their cell phone so everyone else knows to dive out of the way?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656812</id>
	<title>Re:Better to warn everyone else.</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1269876060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you should have a big flashing neon sign on the roof that says "I'm a fucking selfish wanker".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you should have a big flashing neon sign on the roof that says " I 'm a fucking selfish wanker " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you should have a big flashing neon sign on the roof that says "I'm a fucking selfish wanker".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653968</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654196</id>
	<title>Re:as it is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269894360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA: "It would seem natural, then, to offer motorists friendly, yet stern warnings about another bad habit: holding a cell phone while driving, whether for texting or talking."</p><p>I would rather there be no warning.  The car detects that you're an idiot with a cell phone in his hand, the ignition shuts off until you comply with the law.  Idiot - HANG UP AND DRIVE!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : " It would seem natural , then , to offer motorists friendly , yet stern warnings about another bad habit : holding a cell phone while driving , whether for texting or talking .
" I would rather there be no warning .
The car detects that you 're an idiot with a cell phone in his hand , the ignition shuts off until you comply with the law .
Idiot - HANG UP AND DRIVE !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA: "It would seem natural, then, to offer motorists friendly, yet stern warnings about another bad habit: holding a cell phone while driving, whether for texting or talking.
"I would rather there be no warning.
The car detects that you're an idiot with a cell phone in his hand, the ignition shuts off until you comply with the law.
Idiot - HANG UP AND DRIVE!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653932</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656738</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>DaFallus</author>
	<datestamp>1269875760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Every day I see people who feel the need to look directly at the person in the passenger's seat in order to carry on a conversation with them while driving. People are going to zone out or focus on something else while driving because they just don't care. What we need is some sort of HUD on the windshield or rear-view that displays a directional arrow or something similar every 3 seconds. If the arrow is pointing left, the driver should have to press a corresponding button on the left-hand side of the steering wheel, and a button on the right-hand side when the arrow is pointing to the right. Give insurance companies access to this information under legislation which states that while rates for inattentive drivers may increase, rates for attentive drivers must decrease.
<br> <br>
I know my idea isn't perfect but I think it points us in the direction of devising a way to measure and encourage driver attentiveness in a quick and fairly unobtrusive way. So many accidents could have easily been avoided if at least one more person involved had been paying attention.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Every day I see people who feel the need to look directly at the person in the passenger 's seat in order to carry on a conversation with them while driving .
People are going to zone out or focus on something else while driving because they just do n't care .
What we need is some sort of HUD on the windshield or rear-view that displays a directional arrow or something similar every 3 seconds .
If the arrow is pointing left , the driver should have to press a corresponding button on the left-hand side of the steering wheel , and a button on the right-hand side when the arrow is pointing to the right .
Give insurance companies access to this information under legislation which states that while rates for inattentive drivers may increase , rates for attentive drivers must decrease .
I know my idea is n't perfect but I think it points us in the direction of devising a way to measure and encourage driver attentiveness in a quick and fairly unobtrusive way .
So many accidents could have easily been avoided if at least one more person involved had been paying attention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every day I see people who feel the need to look directly at the person in the passenger's seat in order to carry on a conversation with them while driving.
People are going to zone out or focus on something else while driving because they just don't care.
What we need is some sort of HUD on the windshield or rear-view that displays a directional arrow or something similar every 3 seconds.
If the arrow is pointing left, the driver should have to press a corresponding button on the left-hand side of the steering wheel, and a button on the right-hand side when the arrow is pointing to the right.
Give insurance companies access to this information under legislation which states that while rates for inattentive drivers may increase, rates for attentive drivers must decrease.
I know my idea isn't perfect but I think it points us in the direction of devising a way to measure and encourage driver attentiveness in a quick and fairly unobtrusive way.
So many accidents could have easily been avoided if at least one more person involved had been paying attention.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654226</id>
	<title>Solution at the wrong place?</title>
	<author>IUnknownMinusOne</author>
	<datestamp>1269894780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The cell operator can detect that a user is moving.  The operator may be able to warn the caller that the callee is moving (faster than a threshold), allowing for the caller to disconnect before it rings.  Drivers should be able to opt in for this warning system so that passengers aren't affected by this check.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The cell operator can detect that a user is moving .
The operator may be able to warn the caller that the callee is moving ( faster than a threshold ) , allowing for the caller to disconnect before it rings .
Drivers should be able to opt in for this warning system so that passengers are n't affected by this check .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cell operator can detect that a user is moving.
The operator may be able to warn the caller that the callee is moving (faster than a threshold), allowing for the caller to disconnect before it rings.
Drivers should be able to opt in for this warning system so that passengers aren't affected by this check.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655388</id>
	<title>Bum fight!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269867900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just put an RF shielding coating on the glass and none of the damn handhelds will work in the car.</p><p>Or better yet, put up cameras on all the intersections (most cities already have them) and pay all those damn bums that are out begging a dollar for every car they hit with a baseball bat, 5 dollars if they manage to connect with the phone, of people that are chatting or texting away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just put an RF shielding coating on the glass and none of the damn handhelds will work in the car.Or better yet , put up cameras on all the intersections ( most cities already have them ) and pay all those damn bums that are out begging a dollar for every car they hit with a baseball bat , 5 dollars if they manage to connect with the phone , of people that are chatting or texting away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just put an RF shielding coating on the glass and none of the damn handhelds will work in the car.Or better yet, put up cameras on all the intersections (most cities already have them) and pay all those damn bums that are out begging a dollar for every car they hit with a baseball bat, 5 dollars if they manage to connect with the phone, of people that are chatting or texting away.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655266</id>
	<title>Re:Solution at the wrong place?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As opposed to being a passenger in the car?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As opposed to being a passenger in the car ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As opposed to being a passenger in the car?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654226</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654456</id>
	<title>Why spend money on a phone warning system when ...</title>
	<author>Liambp</author>
	<datestamp>1269855480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you could probably fit a hands free phone into the car for the same price?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you could probably fit a hands free phone into the car for the same price ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you could probably fit a hands free phone into the car for the same price?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655786</id>
	<title>That seems about as interesting an option as</title>
	<author>shock1970</author>
	<datestamp>1269871080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>my car telling me to slow down because I'm going over the speed limit.<p>

Unless its mandated by law, I highly doubt many people would buy a car with such a feature, myself included.  While I'm not one to usually talk on the cell phone, I do have the occasional need to hold the phone up to my ear... or go on speakerphone as to be inconspicuous... if there's a call that needs to be made and it can't wait til I reach my destination.  The last thing I want while on an important call is the car issuing warnings or the cell phone asking me to press 7 to continue.  I'm sure a large number of people would be in the same boat.  (ok... bad choice of words<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>my car telling me to slow down because I 'm going over the speed limit .
Unless its mandated by law , I highly doubt many people would buy a car with such a feature , myself included .
While I 'm not one to usually talk on the cell phone , I do have the occasional need to hold the phone up to my ear... or go on speakerphone as to be inconspicuous... if there 's a call that needs to be made and it ca n't wait til I reach my destination .
The last thing I want while on an important call is the car issuing warnings or the cell phone asking me to press 7 to continue .
I 'm sure a large number of people would be in the same boat .
( ok... bad choice of words : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my car telling me to slow down because I'm going over the speed limit.
Unless its mandated by law, I highly doubt many people would buy a car with such a feature, myself included.
While I'm not one to usually talk on the cell phone, I do have the occasional need to hold the phone up to my ear... or go on speakerphone as to be inconspicuous... if there's a call that needs to be made and it can't wait til I reach my destination.
The last thing I want while on an important call is the car issuing warnings or the cell phone asking me to press 7 to continue.
I'm sure a large number of people would be in the same boat.
(ok... bad choice of words :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657314</id>
	<title>Re:Pressure monitors in the steering wheel</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1269878280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Let me guess: you've never driven 1000 miles in a day, have you?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Unless GP is also a twat, then probably not.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me guess : you 've never driven 1000 miles in a day , have you ?
Unless GP is also a twat , then probably not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me guess: you've never driven 1000 miles in a day, have you?
Unless GP is also a twat, then probably not.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654966</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655378</id>
	<title>The solution is easier than this.</title>
	<author>DigitalReverend</author>
	<datestamp>1269867780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't look for a solution in the cars, look for the solution in the phone.</p><p>Most if not all phones have some sort of GPS.  Simply deactivate the screen keypad, and ringer and send all calls to voice mail if the phone is traveling faster than walking speed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't look for a solution in the cars , look for the solution in the phone.Most if not all phones have some sort of GPS .
Simply deactivate the screen keypad , and ringer and send all calls to voice mail if the phone is traveling faster than walking speed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't look for a solution in the cars, look for the solution in the phone.Most if not all phones have some sort of GPS.
Simply deactivate the screen keypad, and ringer and send all calls to voice mail if the phone is traveling faster than walking speed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654928</id>
	<title>How about detecting the fundamental issue?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269862200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ummm....  How about instead of trying to detect that someone has a phone in their hand we try to detect when they're driving poorly for ANY reason?  So it's wrong to have a phone in your hand, but not wrong to eat a burrito?  Or to keep turning around to have a conversation with someone in the back seat?  Or to look in the rear view mirror to put on make-up/shave/etc?  People love the idea that cell phone users are obnoxious jerks, but picking on the behavior and claiming it's for safety while ignoring all sorts of real safety issues is hypocritical.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ummm.... How about instead of trying to detect that someone has a phone in their hand we try to detect when they 're driving poorly for ANY reason ?
So it 's wrong to have a phone in your hand , but not wrong to eat a burrito ?
Or to keep turning around to have a conversation with someone in the back seat ?
Or to look in the rear view mirror to put on make-up/shave/etc ?
People love the idea that cell phone users are obnoxious jerks , but picking on the behavior and claiming it 's for safety while ignoring all sorts of real safety issues is hypocritical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ummm....  How about instead of trying to detect that someone has a phone in their hand we try to detect when they're driving poorly for ANY reason?
So it's wrong to have a phone in your hand, but not wrong to eat a burrito?
Or to keep turning around to have a conversation with someone in the back seat?
Or to look in the rear view mirror to put on make-up/shave/etc?
People love the idea that cell phone users are obnoxious jerks, but picking on the behavior and claiming it's for safety while ignoring all sorts of real safety issues is hypocritical.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657952</id>
	<title>Re:Number one cause of accidents?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269880620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(my wife was once rear-ended by a woman in a SUV because she was watching her child in the back seat -- did I mention we drive an impossible-to-miss yellow car)</p></div><p>Well, there's your problem! You should be driving an impossible-to-hit car so people don't keep crashing into you. No crash avoidance system in the world will keep you from running into an impossible-to-miss yellow car!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( my wife was once rear-ended by a woman in a SUV because she was watching her child in the back seat -- did I mention we drive an impossible-to-miss yellow car ) Well , there 's your problem !
You should be driving an impossible-to-hit car so people do n't keep crashing into you .
No crash avoidance system in the world will keep you from running into an impossible-to-miss yellow car !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(my wife was once rear-ended by a woman in a SUV because she was watching her child in the back seat -- did I mention we drive an impossible-to-miss yellow car)Well, there's your problem!
You should be driving an impossible-to-hit car so people don't keep crashing into you.
No crash avoidance system in the world will keep you from running into an impossible-to-miss yellow car!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657608</id>
	<title>Re:Another attempt at a technical solution...</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1269879360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>These are the people who don't care if they are disqualified from driving, don't pay fines and have (recent example) over 50 prior drink driving convictions!!</i><br>Ultimately the only way to deal with people like that is to remove them from society and lock them up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These are the people who do n't care if they are disqualified from driving , do n't pay fines and have ( recent example ) over 50 prior drink driving convictions !
! Ultimately the only way to deal with people like that is to remove them from society and lock them up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These are the people who don't care if they are disqualified from driving, don't pay fines and have (recent example) over 50 prior drink driving convictions!
!Ultimately the only way to deal with people like that is to remove them from society and lock them up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654622</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31658938</id>
	<title>We don't need smarter cars, we need smarter driver</title>
	<author>ncarraway</author>
	<datestamp>1269885180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you can't handle two tasks at once, then don't drive and use your phone at the same time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you ca n't handle two tasks at once , then do n't drive and use your phone at the same time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can't handle two tasks at once, then don't drive and use your phone at the same time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655280</id>
	<title>Re:Up next...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I once had a job interview while on the phone and driving a car.<br>That was fo Ericsson, yes those guys do mobile phones, and yes, I got the job but declined it.</p><p>I had to pick a plane, and could not post-pone the interview.<br>I would not suggest it to anyone, and will always try not to do it again, I did not have an accident, but was totally exhausted after the call!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I once had a job interview while on the phone and driving a car.That was fo Ericsson , yes those guys do mobile phones , and yes , I got the job but declined it.I had to pick a plane , and could not post-pone the interview.I would not suggest it to anyone , and will always try not to do it again , I did not have an accident , but was totally exhausted after the call ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I once had a job interview while on the phone and driving a car.That was fo Ericsson, yes those guys do mobile phones, and yes, I got the job but declined it.I had to pick a plane, and could not post-pone the interview.I would not suggest it to anyone, and will always try not to do it again, I did not have an accident, but was totally exhausted after the call!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653928</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31665016</id>
	<title>Re:Number one cause of accidents?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269871440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I fully agree - Operating systems on computers "freeze" despite multiple actual physical processors because the operating system, aka "people at the wheel" aren't smart enough to devote the proper amount of processing time to the priority processes, aka "staying on our side", aka "noticing the stopping person ahead", aka "red light", aka "left-turner stealing the right-of-way", etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I fully agree - Operating systems on computers " freeze " despite multiple actual physical processors because the operating system , aka " people at the wheel " are n't smart enough to devote the proper amount of processing time to the priority processes , aka " staying on our side " , aka " noticing the stopping person ahead " , aka " red light " , aka " left-turner stealing the right-of-way " , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I fully agree - Operating systems on computers "freeze" despite multiple actual physical processors because the operating system, aka "people at the wheel" aren't smart enough to devote the proper amount of processing time to the priority processes, aka "staying on our side", aka "noticing the stopping person ahead", aka "red light", aka "left-turner stealing the right-of-way", etc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654168</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269894000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a non-mechanic, I have disabled the seat belt warning on my own car. I'm mostly driving a few kilometers, I don't like to buckle up for a 1-minute drive. So i plugged the passengers belt in the drivers sensor. No reminders.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>You may build any system, if it restricts users, it's annoying. It it's annoying users, people will get their way around it.<br>I just heard a story this weekend about gramps, who used an industrial machine which had 2 buttons to make sure the user's hands weren't in the way. It took too long to press both buttons every time, so he "fixed" one button with some duct tape. It wasn't the smartest thing to do, as he got injured, but it proves that systems that are too annoying, will get "fixed".</p><p>Furthermore, your car could detect a phone. But would it detect that you're eating a Big Mac at the wheel? Or that you're looking up your favorite song in your iPod? Or that your kids are fighting in the back seat, having your attention?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a non-mechanic , I have disabled the seat belt warning on my own car .
I 'm mostly driving a few kilometers , I do n't like to buckle up for a 1-minute drive .
So i plugged the passengers belt in the drivers sensor .
No reminders .
: - ) You may build any system , if it restricts users , it 's annoying .
It it 's annoying users , people will get their way around it.I just heard a story this weekend about gramps , who used an industrial machine which had 2 buttons to make sure the user 's hands were n't in the way .
It took too long to press both buttons every time , so he " fixed " one button with some duct tape .
It was n't the smartest thing to do , as he got injured , but it proves that systems that are too annoying , will get " fixed " .Furthermore , your car could detect a phone .
But would it detect that you 're eating a Big Mac at the wheel ?
Or that you 're looking up your favorite song in your iPod ?
Or that your kids are fighting in the back seat , having your attention ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a non-mechanic, I have disabled the seat belt warning on my own car.
I'm mostly driving a few kilometers, I don't like to buckle up for a 1-minute drive.
So i plugged the passengers belt in the drivers sensor.
No reminders.
:-)You may build any system, if it restricts users, it's annoying.
It it's annoying users, people will get their way around it.I just heard a story this weekend about gramps, who used an industrial machine which had 2 buttons to make sure the user's hands weren't in the way.
It took too long to press both buttons every time, so he "fixed" one button with some duct tape.
It wasn't the smartest thing to do, as he got injured, but it proves that systems that are too annoying, will get "fixed".Furthermore, your car could detect a phone.
But would it detect that you're eating a Big Mac at the wheel?
Or that you're looking up your favorite song in your iPod?
Or that your kids are fighting in the back seat, having your attention?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655384</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>osgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1269867840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live in the suburbs where almost every soccer mom has her phone glued to her ear from the moment she gets into her car until she arrives at her destination.  I think it's a sickness.</p><p>I don't see anyone adjusting their glasses quite so assiduously.</p><p>The move I love is when they're too busy to take their phones off their left ears so they just turn left without really looking to see what may be in the intersection.  It's a classic.  At those moments, I wish they had something hands free available.</p><p>Even more necessary than the hands free talking would be the hands free dialing.  Dialing (and now texting) are to using a cell phone what take-offs and landings are to airplanes.  They're the critical time when things always seem to go wrong because too much is happening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in the suburbs where almost every soccer mom has her phone glued to her ear from the moment she gets into her car until she arrives at her destination .
I think it 's a sickness.I do n't see anyone adjusting their glasses quite so assiduously.The move I love is when they 're too busy to take their phones off their left ears so they just turn left without really looking to see what may be in the intersection .
It 's a classic .
At those moments , I wish they had something hands free available.Even more necessary than the hands free talking would be the hands free dialing .
Dialing ( and now texting ) are to using a cell phone what take-offs and landings are to airplanes .
They 're the critical time when things always seem to go wrong because too much is happening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in the suburbs where almost every soccer mom has her phone glued to her ear from the moment she gets into her car until she arrives at her destination.
I think it's a sickness.I don't see anyone adjusting their glasses quite so assiduously.The move I love is when they're too busy to take their phones off their left ears so they just turn left without really looking to see what may be in the intersection.
It's a classic.
At those moments, I wish they had something hands free available.Even more necessary than the hands free talking would be the hands free dialing.
Dialing (and now texting) are to using a cell phone what take-offs and landings are to airplanes.
They're the critical time when things always seem to go wrong because too much is happening.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654698</id>
	<title>Re:as it is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269858900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I ever see you or anyone else texting while driving, I'll pull your from your car and beat the living shit out of you. You do NOT endanger me or anyone else because you just couldn't wait to twitter some bullshit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I ever see you or anyone else texting while driving , I 'll pull your from your car and beat the living shit out of you .
You do NOT endanger me or anyone else because you just could n't wait to twitter some bullshit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I ever see you or anyone else texting while driving, I'll pull your from your car and beat the living shit out of you.
You do NOT endanger me or anyone else because you just couldn't wait to twitter some bullshit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653932</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653966</id>
	<title>What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>Anachragnome</author>
	<datestamp>1269805200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What a waste of effort.</p><p>As a mechanic, I personally removed, disconnected or otherwise rendered useless dozens of "spoken word" feedback systems on cars. They have been around for many years, doing anything from reminding you that your seatbelt is unfastened, that you left your headlights on or to tell you your door is ajar (No it isn't! It's a door!).</p><p>I did so at the REQUEST OF THE VEHICLE OWNER.</p><p>Once the novelty wears off, spoken word feedback systems are annoying as a kid in the back seat repeatedly asking "Are we there yet?"</p><p>Law, or otherwise, such a system would be disabled as soon as the customers patience wore out, and there will never be a shortage of mechanics willing to do it for you if the price is right.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a waste of effort.As a mechanic , I personally removed , disconnected or otherwise rendered useless dozens of " spoken word " feedback systems on cars .
They have been around for many years , doing anything from reminding you that your seatbelt is unfastened , that you left your headlights on or to tell you your door is ajar ( No it is n't !
It 's a door !
) .I did so at the REQUEST OF THE VEHICLE OWNER.Once the novelty wears off , spoken word feedback systems are annoying as a kid in the back seat repeatedly asking " Are we there yet ?
" Law , or otherwise , such a system would be disabled as soon as the customers patience wore out , and there will never be a shortage of mechanics willing to do it for you if the price is right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a waste of effort.As a mechanic, I personally removed, disconnected or otherwise rendered useless dozens of "spoken word" feedback systems on cars.
They have been around for many years, doing anything from reminding you that your seatbelt is unfastened, that you left your headlights on or to tell you your door is ajar (No it isn't!
It's a door!
).I did so at the REQUEST OF THE VEHICLE OWNER.Once the novelty wears off, spoken word feedback systems are annoying as a kid in the back seat repeatedly asking "Are we there yet?
"Law, or otherwise, such a system would be disabled as soon as the customers patience wore out, and there will never be a shortage of mechanics willing to do it for you if the price is right.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654230</id>
	<title>"or talk... without using a hands-free device"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269894960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a student who is required to take ergonomic/applied psychology papers, I can assure you that this is just false.<br>Studies show, very clearly, that hands free devices have almost exactly the same magnitude of effect as just talking on a cell phone. The problem isn't only having one hand, the problem is that your attention is divided.<br>Example source (there are actually hundreds of studies reproducing these results): http://pss.sagepub.com/content/12/6/462.abstract</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a student who is required to take ergonomic/applied psychology papers , I can assure you that this is just false.Studies show , very clearly , that hands free devices have almost exactly the same magnitude of effect as just talking on a cell phone .
The problem is n't only having one hand , the problem is that your attention is divided.Example source ( there are actually hundreds of studies reproducing these results ) : http : //pss.sagepub.com/content/12/6/462.abstract</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a student who is required to take ergonomic/applied psychology papers, I can assure you that this is just false.Studies show, very clearly, that hands free devices have almost exactly the same magnitude of effect as just talking on a cell phone.
The problem isn't only having one hand, the problem is that your attention is divided.Example source (there are actually hundreds of studies reproducing these results): http://pss.sagepub.com/content/12/6/462.abstract</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654324</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>JasterBobaMereel</author>
	<datestamp>1269853200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>....and what if your phone does not *have* bluetooth?</p><p>Most people who use their phone in the car are well aware they shouldn't, and still do it, this will not stop them</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>....and what if your phone does not * have * bluetooth ? Most people who use their phone in the car are well aware they should n't , and still do it , this will not stop them</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....and what if your phone does not *have* bluetooth?Most people who use their phone in the car are well aware they shouldn't, and still do it, this will not stop them</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655000</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>slim</author>
	<datestamp>1269863040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's not even the remoteness of the conversation. A conversation, or worse a heated argument, with passengers in the car can be just as dangerous.</p></div><p>I'm sure I've seen mention of studies that show that remote conversations are more dangers (yes, yes: [citation needed]).</p><p>A plausible explanation is that when you're having a conversation with someone in the passenger seat, they know when, for example, you're negotiation a busy junction, and will pause to let you concentrate on the road, tolerate pauses in your own speech without butting in, etc.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not even the remoteness of the conversation .
A conversation , or worse a heated argument , with passengers in the car can be just as dangerous.I 'm sure I 've seen mention of studies that show that remote conversations are more dangers ( yes , yes : [ citation needed ] ) .A plausible explanation is that when you 're having a conversation with someone in the passenger seat , they know when , for example , you 're negotiation a busy junction , and will pause to let you concentrate on the road , tolerate pauses in your own speech without butting in , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not even the remoteness of the conversation.
A conversation, or worse a heated argument, with passengers in the car can be just as dangerous.I'm sure I've seen mention of studies that show that remote conversations are more dangers (yes, yes: [citation needed]).A plausible explanation is that when you're having a conversation with someone in the passenger seat, they know when, for example, you're negotiation a busy junction, and will pause to let you concentrate on the road, tolerate pauses in your own speech without butting in, etc.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31658096</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>daten</author>
	<datestamp>1269881280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not saying you aren't a "damned good driver", but I am ready to question to claim to having driven "literally" millions of miles.</p><p>Assuming you drive an average of 30 miles every day, including weekends and holidays, for 50 years.</p><p>30 * 365 * 50 = 547,500 miles</p><p>Let's add a 2000 mile trip each year into that estimate.</p><p>2000 * 50 = 100,000</p><p>Still not at even one million.</p><p>Also, there have been <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016\%2F0001-6918(81)90005-6" title="doi.org" rel="nofollow">multiple</a> [doi.org] <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016\%2F0001-4575(86)90004-7" title="doi.org" rel="nofollow">studies</a> [doi.org] that suggest there is a cognitive bias that causes people to overestimate their positive qualities and abilities and to underestimate their negative qualities, relative to others when it comes to driving.</p><p>In both studies in the US over 80\% of people ranked themselves in the top 50\% of drivers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not saying you are n't a " damned good driver " , but I am ready to question to claim to having driven " literally " millions of miles.Assuming you drive an average of 30 miles every day , including weekends and holidays , for 50 years.30 * 365 * 50 = 547,500 milesLet 's add a 2000 mile trip each year into that estimate.2000 * 50 = 100,000Still not at even one million.Also , there have been multiple [ doi.org ] studies [ doi.org ] that suggest there is a cognitive bias that causes people to overestimate their positive qualities and abilities and to underestimate their negative qualities , relative to others when it comes to driving.In both studies in the US over 80 \ % of people ranked themselves in the top 50 \ % of drivers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not saying you aren't a "damned good driver", but I am ready to question to claim to having driven "literally" millions of miles.Assuming you drive an average of 30 miles every day, including weekends and holidays, for 50 years.30 * 365 * 50 = 547,500 milesLet's add a 2000 mile trip each year into that estimate.2000 * 50 = 100,000Still not at even one million.Also, there have been multiple [doi.org] studies [doi.org] that suggest there is a cognitive bias that causes people to overestimate their positive qualities and abilities and to underestimate their negative qualities, relative to others when it comes to driving.In both studies in the US over 80\% of people ranked themselves in the top 50\% of drivers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654202</id>
	<title>Plz noo</title>
	<author>isthisnametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1269894480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thiss wuld b really bad idea becuz it...

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<tokenext>Thiss wuld b really bad idea becuz it.. .
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<sentencetext>Thiss wuld b really bad idea becuz it...
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31667840</id>
	<title>Re:Up next...</title>
	<author>c79106428</author>
	<datestamp>1269942960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <a href="http://www.topbrandhats.com/" title="topbrandhats.com" rel="nofollow">new era hats,new era hatsnew era capsone industries hatsRockstar Energy Hatsrockstar energy hatsmonster energy hatsRed Bull CapsThe Hundreds Hats</a> [topbrandhats.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>new era hats,new era hatsnew era capsone industries hatsRockstar Energy Hatsrockstar energy hatsmonster energy hatsRed Bull CapsThe Hundreds Hats [ topbrandhats.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> new era hats,new era hatsnew era capsone industries hatsRockstar Energy Hatsrockstar energy hatsmonster energy hatsRed Bull CapsThe Hundreds Hats [topbrandhats.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655140</id>
	<title>Insurance?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269864600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Computer says I on phone.</p><p>Insurer demands more moneys.</p><p>I get in accident.</p><p>Me be texting.</p><p>Me get no money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Computer says I on phone.Insurer demands more moneys.I get in accident.Me be texting.Me get no money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computer says I on phone.Insurer demands more moneys.I get in accident.Me be texting.Me get no money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654622</id>
	<title>Re:Another attempt at a technical solution...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269857700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know about where ever you lot are but here in NZ nothing seems to work.  These small everyday things that a lot of people do and sometimes end in disaster just can't be penalised well to stop people doing them.<br>The stats here say that a very small number of recidivists account for the vast majority of serious road problems.  These are the people who don't care if they are disqualified from driving, don't pay fines and have (recent example) over 50 prior drink driving convictions!!</p><p>How do you address these sorts of problems?<br>It doesn't help that here we implemented some sort of bizarre half measure whereby hands free kit is required to use a phone while driving or only "brief infrequent button pushing allowed."  Grey enough for you?  The relevant research found that the hands free or not was almost irrelevant.  A passenger in your car will naturally break in the conversation when something complicated happens on the road as a kind of instinctive measure to not distract you.  The person at the other end of the phone does not stop for tricky situations and it matters not whether your hands are free or not -&gt; the distractions the same.<br>That research was before texting however.  I can see how texting would be far worse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about where ever you lot are but here in NZ nothing seems to work .
These small everyday things that a lot of people do and sometimes end in disaster just ca n't be penalised well to stop people doing them.The stats here say that a very small number of recidivists account for the vast majority of serious road problems .
These are the people who do n't care if they are disqualified from driving , do n't pay fines and have ( recent example ) over 50 prior drink driving convictions !
! How do you address these sorts of problems ? It does n't help that here we implemented some sort of bizarre half measure whereby hands free kit is required to use a phone while driving or only " brief infrequent button pushing allowed .
" Grey enough for you ?
The relevant research found that the hands free or not was almost irrelevant .
A passenger in your car will naturally break in the conversation when something complicated happens on the road as a kind of instinctive measure to not distract you .
The person at the other end of the phone does not stop for tricky situations and it matters not whether your hands are free or not - &gt; the distractions the same.That research was before texting however .
I can see how texting would be far worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about where ever you lot are but here in NZ nothing seems to work.
These small everyday things that a lot of people do and sometimes end in disaster just can't be penalised well to stop people doing them.The stats here say that a very small number of recidivists account for the vast majority of serious road problems.
These are the people who don't care if they are disqualified from driving, don't pay fines and have (recent example) over 50 prior drink driving convictions!
!How do you address these sorts of problems?It doesn't help that here we implemented some sort of bizarre half measure whereby hands free kit is required to use a phone while driving or only "brief infrequent button pushing allowed.
"  Grey enough for you?
The relevant research found that the hands free or not was almost irrelevant.
A passenger in your car will naturally break in the conversation when something complicated happens on the road as a kind of instinctive measure to not distract you.
The person at the other end of the phone does not stop for tricky situations and it matters not whether your hands are free or not -&gt; the distractions the same.That research was before texting however.
I can see how texting would be far worse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654216</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1269894660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not up in the air at all.  Back in the day when cell phones were large, bulky things that took up the center seat on a standard bench seat pickup truck, my boss got me one.  Most of the time, it would ring, I would tell whoever that I'm driving, and I'll call them back.  One day, the boss called me to rag on me.  He got moderately abusive, and my mind was on the phone call, not on my driving.  Holding the phone was no great distraction - the content of the discussion was.  Instead of making my turn, I drove across the state line, and only realized it after I had driven about 6 or 7 miles into the neighboring state.</p><p>Forever after, I turned that damned phone OFF while I was driving.  I'm a pretty damned good driver, with literally millions of miles behind me.  But, if I can screw up so badly, you bet your ass that other people can!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not up in the air at all .
Back in the day when cell phones were large , bulky things that took up the center seat on a standard bench seat pickup truck , my boss got me one .
Most of the time , it would ring , I would tell whoever that I 'm driving , and I 'll call them back .
One day , the boss called me to rag on me .
He got moderately abusive , and my mind was on the phone call , not on my driving .
Holding the phone was no great distraction - the content of the discussion was .
Instead of making my turn , I drove across the state line , and only realized it after I had driven about 6 or 7 miles into the neighboring state.Forever after , I turned that damned phone OFF while I was driving .
I 'm a pretty damned good driver , with literally millions of miles behind me .
But , if I can screw up so badly , you bet your ass that other people can !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not up in the air at all.
Back in the day when cell phones were large, bulky things that took up the center seat on a standard bench seat pickup truck, my boss got me one.
Most of the time, it would ring, I would tell whoever that I'm driving, and I'll call them back.
One day, the boss called me to rag on me.
He got moderately abusive, and my mind was on the phone call, not on my driving.
Holding the phone was no great distraction - the content of the discussion was.
Instead of making my turn, I drove across the state line, and only realized it after I had driven about 6 or 7 miles into the neighboring state.Forever after, I turned that damned phone OFF while I was driving.
I'm a pretty damned good driver, with literally millions of miles behind me.
But, if I can screw up so badly, you bet your ass that other people can!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654298</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269896040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I disabled the fucking "ding ding ding" that reminded me my seatbelt wasn't fastened.  I always wear my seatbelt but the fucking thing would come on the second I start the engine.  I always start the engine first THEN put on my seatbelt THEN put the fucker into gear.  Thank god it's a '98, the fix turned out to be simply undoing the connector between the floor and the seat.  I suspect it's more of a pain in the ass to do on newer cars.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I disabled the fucking " ding ding ding " that reminded me my seatbelt was n't fastened .
I always wear my seatbelt but the fucking thing would come on the second I start the engine .
I always start the engine first THEN put on my seatbelt THEN put the fucker into gear .
Thank god it 's a '98 , the fix turned out to be simply undoing the connector between the floor and the seat .
I suspect it 's more of a pain in the ass to do on newer cars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disabled the fucking "ding ding ding" that reminded me my seatbelt wasn't fastened.
I always wear my seatbelt but the fucking thing would come on the second I start the engine.
I always start the engine first THEN put on my seatbelt THEN put the fucker into gear.
Thank god it's a '98, the fix turned out to be simply undoing the connector between the floor and the seat.
I suspect it's more of a pain in the ass to do on newer cars.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656712</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>shking</author>
	<datestamp>1269875640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, the distraction is the problem, not the phone in your hand.  Hands-free phones impare you just as much as being (legally) drunk.  Here's a <a href="http://www.unews.utah.edu/p/?r=062206-1" title="utah.edu">link</a> [utah.edu]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , the distraction is the problem , not the phone in your hand .
Hands-free phones impare you just as much as being ( legally ) drunk .
Here 's a link [ utah.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, the distraction is the problem, not the phone in your hand.
Hands-free phones impare you just as much as being (legally) drunk.
Here's a link [utah.edu]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31659434</id>
	<title>Re:The solution is easier than this.</title>
	<author>tompaulco</author>
	<datestamp>1269887160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Simply deactivate the screen keypad, and ringer and send all calls to voice mail if the phone is traveling faster than walking speed.</i> <br>
Studies have also shown that is not safe to walk and use the cell phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Simply deactivate the screen keypad , and ringer and send all calls to voice mail if the phone is traveling faster than walking speed .
Studies have also shown that is not safe to walk and use the cell phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simply deactivate the screen keypad, and ringer and send all calls to voice mail if the phone is traveling faster than walking speed.
Studies have also shown that is not safe to walk and use the cell phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655378</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656758</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>operagost</author>
	<datestamp>1269875880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <tt>And a lot of new cars beep when you open the door with the keys in - SO WHAT?</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>This isn't new.  Old cars used to have an even more annoying buzzer instead of the bell, so many of them were removed by the owner.  That could be why you don't remember them.  Anyway, it's to keep you from locking your keys in the car.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And a lot of new cars beep when you open the door with the keys in - SO WHAT ?
This is n't new .
Old cars used to have an even more annoying buzzer instead of the bell , so many of them were removed by the owner .
That could be why you do n't remember them .
Anyway , it 's to keep you from locking your keys in the car .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> And a lot of new cars beep when you open the door with the keys in - SO WHAT?
This isn't new.
Old cars used to have an even more annoying buzzer instead of the bell, so many of them were removed by the owner.
That could be why you don't remember them.
Anyway, it's to keep you from locking your keys in the car.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655550</id>
	<title>Who's going to forget they are on the phone?</title>
	<author>codeguy007</author>
	<datestamp>1269869280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now really, maybe someone might forget about a seat belt but they aren't going to forget they are talking on the phone. The annoying alarm will just get disabled. It's not like you don't know you are on the phone and driving at the same time. What a stupid idea!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now really , maybe someone might forget about a seat belt but they are n't going to forget they are talking on the phone .
The annoying alarm will just get disabled .
It 's not like you do n't know you are on the phone and driving at the same time .
What a stupid idea ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now really, maybe someone might forget about a seat belt but they aren't going to forget they are talking on the phone.
The annoying alarm will just get disabled.
It's not like you don't know you are on the phone and driving at the same time.
What a stupid idea!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655166</id>
	<title>If my car is so smart...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269864900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...that it knows when I'm distracted by a phone call, then it can drive the damn car!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...that it knows when I 'm distracted by a phone call , then it can drive the damn car !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...that it knows when I'm distracted by a phone call, then it can drive the damn car!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654602</id>
	<title>Re:This story...</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1269857460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Look at the bright side.  At least Slashdot is not posting stories about Tiger Woods and Sandra Bullock.</p></div><p>... yet.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Look at the bright side .
At least Slashdot is not posting stories about Tiger Woods and Sandra Bullock.... yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look at the bright side.
At least Slashdot is not posting stories about Tiger Woods and Sandra Bullock.... yet.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654418</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657192</id>
	<title>I quote from a 1974 Road and Track article</title>
	<author>zeet</author>
	<datestamp>1269877800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Specifically, a review of the Mazda Rotary Engine Pickup. In 1974 cars had the truly horrible seatbelt interlock system, which would kill the ignition if you didn't put the seatbelt on at the right time. Pickup trucks were exempt from the requirement, as well as many other safety requirements, leading to the following lovely little snippet of text:</p><p>"We found the Rotary's cab refreshing in one way: it is devoid of a bunch of buzzers and warning lights and the seatbelt interlock system afflicting today's passenger cars. Once again, we are left to our own judgment as to whether to belt up (we always do), or whether to leave the key in the ignition switch when leaving the pickup. It was nice. We felt almost like grown-ups again."</p><p>I have disabled my car's seatbelt buzzer. It's a much calmer place now. I still wear my belt every time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Specifically , a review of the Mazda Rotary Engine Pickup .
In 1974 cars had the truly horrible seatbelt interlock system , which would kill the ignition if you did n't put the seatbelt on at the right time .
Pickup trucks were exempt from the requirement , as well as many other safety requirements , leading to the following lovely little snippet of text : " We found the Rotary 's cab refreshing in one way : it is devoid of a bunch of buzzers and warning lights and the seatbelt interlock system afflicting today 's passenger cars .
Once again , we are left to our own judgment as to whether to belt up ( we always do ) , or whether to leave the key in the ignition switch when leaving the pickup .
It was nice .
We felt almost like grown-ups again .
" I have disabled my car 's seatbelt buzzer .
It 's a much calmer place now .
I still wear my belt every time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Specifically, a review of the Mazda Rotary Engine Pickup.
In 1974 cars had the truly horrible seatbelt interlock system, which would kill the ignition if you didn't put the seatbelt on at the right time.
Pickup trucks were exempt from the requirement, as well as many other safety requirements, leading to the following lovely little snippet of text:"We found the Rotary's cab refreshing in one way: it is devoid of a bunch of buzzers and warning lights and the seatbelt interlock system afflicting today's passenger cars.
Once again, we are left to our own judgment as to whether to belt up (we always do), or whether to leave the key in the ignition switch when leaving the pickup.
It was nice.
We felt almost like grown-ups again.
"I have disabled my car's seatbelt buzzer.
It's a much calmer place now.
I still wear my belt every time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655648</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>Vectormatic</author>
	<datestamp>1269869940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>bleh, i wish i was allowed to go to town on my company car.</p><p>seatbelt warnings are all nice and all, but if my car starts incessantly beeping when i'm on my way back from the supermarket with a quart of milk on the passengers seat, i just get pissed off and distracted.. Seriously, why are those sensors set up that 1 kg of pressure == human being in seat?</p><p>Besides, the warning light on my dash already is quite clear on the matter, and i tend to notice warning lights rather quick...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>bleh , i wish i was allowed to go to town on my company car.seatbelt warnings are all nice and all , but if my car starts incessantly beeping when i 'm on my way back from the supermarket with a quart of milk on the passengers seat , i just get pissed off and distracted.. Seriously , why are those sensors set up that 1 kg of pressure = = human being in seat ? Besides , the warning light on my dash already is quite clear on the matter , and i tend to notice warning lights rather quick.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bleh, i wish i was allowed to go to town on my company car.seatbelt warnings are all nice and all, but if my car starts incessantly beeping when i'm on my way back from the supermarket with a quart of milk on the passengers seat, i just get pissed off and distracted.. Seriously, why are those sensors set up that 1 kg of pressure == human being in seat?Besides, the warning light on my dash already is quite clear on the matter, and i tend to notice warning lights rather quick...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653966</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654542</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>ljw1004</author>
	<datestamp>1269856500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Risk Homeostasis"</p><p>That's the observation that we as humans tend to adjust our behavior to have the same overall level of risk. So: cars are made safer through seatbelts and airbags, and we've taken to riskier faster driving, and the risks balanced out. If cars were made more dangerous through spears mounted in steering columns pointed at our chests, then we'd drive more slowly to balance the risks.</p><p>I'm entirely in favor of seat-belts -- they're the things that encourage fast exhilarating driving!</p><p>You, sir, are probably the guy responsible for all those irritating slow drivers right in front of me on the freeway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Risk Homeostasis " That 's the observation that we as humans tend to adjust our behavior to have the same overall level of risk .
So : cars are made safer through seatbelts and airbags , and we 've taken to riskier faster driving , and the risks balanced out .
If cars were made more dangerous through spears mounted in steering columns pointed at our chests , then we 'd drive more slowly to balance the risks.I 'm entirely in favor of seat-belts -- they 're the things that encourage fast exhilarating driving ! You , sir , are probably the guy responsible for all those irritating slow drivers right in front of me on the freeway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Risk Homeostasis"That's the observation that we as humans tend to adjust our behavior to have the same overall level of risk.
So: cars are made safer through seatbelts and airbags, and we've taken to riskier faster driving, and the risks balanced out.
If cars were made more dangerous through spears mounted in steering columns pointed at our chests, then we'd drive more slowly to balance the risks.I'm entirely in favor of seat-belts -- they're the things that encourage fast exhilarating driving!You, sir, are probably the guy responsible for all those irritating slow drivers right in front of me on the freeway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653966</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656706</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1269875580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>to tell you your door is ajar (No it isn't! It's a door!).</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Truly, the old ones are the best.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>to tell you your door is ajar ( No it is n't !
It 's a door ! ) .
Truly , the old ones are the best .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to tell you your door is ajar (No it isn't!
It's a door!).
Truly, the old ones are the best.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653966</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31658354</id>
	<title>Re:Pressure monitors in the steering wheel</title>
	<author>eth1</author>
	<datestamp>1269882360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm pretty sure it would be trivial to not install the sensors in manual-transmission vehicles. They require two hands to drive, anyway, as you point out. Maybe not all the time, but in any situation that requires you to be paying close attention (turns, traffic, etc.), you'll be shifting often, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure it would be trivial to not install the sensors in manual-transmission vehicles .
They require two hands to drive , anyway , as you point out .
Maybe not all the time , but in any situation that requires you to be paying close attention ( turns , traffic , etc .
) , you 'll be shifting often , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure it would be trivial to not install the sensors in manual-transmission vehicles.
They require two hands to drive, anyway, as you point out.
Maybe not all the time, but in any situation that requires you to be paying close attention (turns, traffic, etc.
), you'll be shifting often, too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655922</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>schwit1</author>
	<datestamp>1269871860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hands free devices help politicians. By mandating them, politicians look like they are doing something to solve the problem. In reality hands-free or handheld is not the problem, the problem is the mental distraction. To fix THE problem the politician would have to ban the use of electronic devices by motor vehicle operators. This would be a career-ender.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hands free devices help politicians .
By mandating them , politicians look like they are doing something to solve the problem .
In reality hands-free or handheld is not the problem , the problem is the mental distraction .
To fix THE problem the politician would have to ban the use of electronic devices by motor vehicle operators .
This would be a career-ender .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hands free devices help politicians.
By mandating them, politicians look like they are doing something to solve the problem.
In reality hands-free or handheld is not the problem, the problem is the mental distraction.
To fix THE problem the politician would have to ban the use of electronic devices by motor vehicle operators.
This would be a career-ender.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655800</id>
	<title>Re:Up next...</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269871140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will an AC post an offtopic comment and get a +4 insightful? The answer may surprise you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will an AC post an offtopic comment and get a + 4 insightful ?
The answer may surprise you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will an AC post an offtopic comment and get a +4 insightful?
The answer may surprise you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653928</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654252</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>grrrl</author>
	<datestamp>1269895320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You, sir, are proof as to why these systems don't work ANYWAY. You won't put your belt on for the right reasons (safety education) let alone the wrong reasons (annoying beeping).</p><p>
&nbsp; I think you SHOULD most definitely wear your seat belt!! I do always wear a seat belt and not because my car beeps - I do so because I feel the safety is worth it. My common sense tells me a seat belt can save me a lot of grief. Unfortunately my experience also tells me so, because I have been personally in an accident where a seatbelt would have saved me lot of pain and damage (though I wanted to put it on, I could not find the seat belt, it was tucked under the seat I think, unfort I was drunk and put my trust in the driver (who was not drunk, but was a douchebag)) FYI we were driving less than 2 km between two friends' houses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You , sir , are proof as to why these systems do n't work ANYWAY .
You wo n't put your belt on for the right reasons ( safety education ) let alone the wrong reasons ( annoying beeping ) .
  I think you SHOULD most definitely wear your seat belt ! !
I do always wear a seat belt and not because my car beeps - I do so because I feel the safety is worth it .
My common sense tells me a seat belt can save me a lot of grief .
Unfortunately my experience also tells me so , because I have been personally in an accident where a seatbelt would have saved me lot of pain and damage ( though I wanted to put it on , I could not find the seat belt , it was tucked under the seat I think , unfort I was drunk and put my trust in the driver ( who was not drunk , but was a douchebag ) ) FYI we were driving less than 2 km between two friends ' houses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You, sir, are proof as to why these systems don't work ANYWAY.
You won't put your belt on for the right reasons (safety education) let alone the wrong reasons (annoying beeping).
  I think you SHOULD most definitely wear your seat belt!!
I do always wear a seat belt and not because my car beeps - I do so because I feel the safety is worth it.
My common sense tells me a seat belt can save me a lot of grief.
Unfortunately my experience also tells me so, because I have been personally in an accident where a seatbelt would have saved me lot of pain and damage (though I wanted to put it on, I could not find the seat belt, it was tucked under the seat I think, unfort I was drunk and put my trust in the driver (who was not drunk, but was a douchebag)) FYI we were driving less than 2 km between two friends' houses.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654518</id>
	<title>Re:Number one cause of accidents?</title>
	<author>ljw1004</author>
	<datestamp>1269856260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, that's not the number one risk, and I don't think it's ever been.</p><p>Adjusting the radio and the climate control is correlated with a DECREASED risk of accidents. The hypothesis for this experimental correlation is that typically the kind of driver who fixes his/her driving environment is the kind of driver who's more attentive to road risks as well. I don't have the cite to hand, but this data and hypothesis were from a paper in the past year somewhere in the east coast. I have a vague memory that it was a federal traffic research unit in Pennsylvania, but am not sure. (I read the report cover to cover but didn't save it).</p><p>Cellphone use and sleepy drivers were each FAR more risky than any other behavior.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , that 's not the number one risk , and I do n't think it 's ever been.Adjusting the radio and the climate control is correlated with a DECREASED risk of accidents .
The hypothesis for this experimental correlation is that typically the kind of driver who fixes his/her driving environment is the kind of driver who 's more attentive to road risks as well .
I do n't have the cite to hand , but this data and hypothesis were from a paper in the past year somewhere in the east coast .
I have a vague memory that it was a federal traffic research unit in Pennsylvania , but am not sure .
( I read the report cover to cover but did n't save it ) .Cellphone use and sleepy drivers were each FAR more risky than any other behavior .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, that's not the number one risk, and I don't think it's ever been.Adjusting the radio and the climate control is correlated with a DECREASED risk of accidents.
The hypothesis for this experimental correlation is that typically the kind of driver who fixes his/her driving environment is the kind of driver who's more attentive to road risks as well.
I don't have the cite to hand, but this data and hypothesis were from a paper in the past year somewhere in the east coast.
I have a vague memory that it was a federal traffic research unit in Pennsylvania, but am not sure.
(I read the report cover to cover but didn't save it).Cellphone use and sleepy drivers were each FAR more risky than any other behavior.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653978</id>
	<title>Pressure monitors in the steering wheel</title>
	<author>RobVB</author>
	<datestamp>1269805320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article only seems to mention smartphone apps, which doesn't seem optimal to me.</p><p>What about pressure monitors in the steering wheel that sound an alarm when they don't feel anything for more than, say, 30 seconds? Sure it might annoy those who prefer driving with one hand, but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway. Pressure monitors would also prevent you from fiddling with the radio for too long, and would work for people without smartphones - or people you lend your car to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article only seems to mention smartphone apps , which does n't seem optimal to me.What about pressure monitors in the steering wheel that sound an alarm when they do n't feel anything for more than , say , 30 seconds ?
Sure it might annoy those who prefer driving with one hand , but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway .
Pressure monitors would also prevent you from fiddling with the radio for too long , and would work for people without smartphones - or people you lend your car to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article only seems to mention smartphone apps, which doesn't seem optimal to me.What about pressure monitors in the steering wheel that sound an alarm when they don't feel anything for more than, say, 30 seconds?
Sure it might annoy those who prefer driving with one hand, but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway.
Pressure monitors would also prevent you from fiddling with the radio for too long, and would work for people without smartphones - or people you lend your car to.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31681412</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>DriedClexler</author>
	<datestamp>1269960900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, that's what I thought, bitch.  No answer.  Best you had to offer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , that 's what I thought , bitch .
No answer .
Best you had to offer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, that's what I thought, bitch.
No answer.
Best you had to offer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656766</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654672</id>
	<title>Touch sensors on the steering wheel</title>
	<author>jlebrech</author>
	<datestamp>1269858600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the steering wheel isn't being touched by both hands for at least 10 seconds whilst moving, sound the warning.</p><p>"Please use both hands whilst driving", it might need disabling though for amutee drivers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the steering wheel is n't being touched by both hands for at least 10 seconds whilst moving , sound the warning .
" Please use both hands whilst driving " , it might need disabling though for amutee drivers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the steering wheel isn't being touched by both hands for at least 10 seconds whilst moving, sound the warning.
"Please use both hands whilst driving", it might need disabling though for amutee drivers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654246</id>
	<title>useless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269895080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what a useless and dumb feature for a car, is it not the same distraction as getting a txt or phone call when driving??? come on people...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what a useless and dumb feature for a car , is it not the same distraction as getting a txt or phone call when driving ? ? ?
come on people.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what a useless and dumb feature for a car, is it not the same distraction as getting a txt or phone call when driving???
come on people...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656634</id>
	<title>Re:Number one cause of accidents?</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1269875280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I personally think that the real problem is people not giving the driving the attention it requires.</p></div><p>Amen! I spent a week or so driving around Panama and I can tell you that if someone appears not to see you there, they're probably pretending to ignore you so they can claim the moral right-of-way. Everyone drives in the middle of the road all the time, then gets out of the way at the last second, so everyone pays attention &mdash; though there, like here, not everyone is a competent driver in terms of <em>skill</em>. They use the opposing passing lane for passing, they dodge every pothole almost without regard to other vehicles &mdash; <em>but not quite</em> &mdash; and the whole thing produces vastly less accidents than you would expect. Meanwhile, here in the USA, there are really <em>more</em> than you would expect. Not am I continually driving past accidents, but they're usually stupid ones, like a head-on due to lane splitting. Maybe you should slow down on the next blind turn, eh? People in the USA definitely do not pay enough attention behind the wheel.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I personally think that the real problem is people not giving the driving the attention it requires.Amen !
I spent a week or so driving around Panama and I can tell you that if someone appears not to see you there , they 're probably pretending to ignore you so they can claim the moral right-of-way .
Everyone drives in the middle of the road all the time , then gets out of the way at the last second , so everyone pays attention    though there , like here , not everyone is a competent driver in terms of skill .
They use the opposing passing lane for passing , they dodge every pothole almost without regard to other vehicles    but not quite    and the whole thing produces vastly less accidents than you would expect .
Meanwhile , here in the USA , there are really more than you would expect .
Not am I continually driving past accidents , but they 're usually stupid ones , like a head-on due to lane splitting .
Maybe you should slow down on the next blind turn , eh ?
People in the USA definitely do not pay enough attention behind the wheel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I personally think that the real problem is people not giving the driving the attention it requires.Amen!
I spent a week or so driving around Panama and I can tell you that if someone appears not to see you there, they're probably pretending to ignore you so they can claim the moral right-of-way.
Everyone drives in the middle of the road all the time, then gets out of the way at the last second, so everyone pays attention — though there, like here, not everyone is a competent driver in terms of skill.
They use the opposing passing lane for passing, they dodge every pothole almost without regard to other vehicles — but not quite — and the whole thing produces vastly less accidents than you would expect.
Meanwhile, here in the USA, there are really more than you would expect.
Not am I continually driving past accidents, but they're usually stupid ones, like a head-on due to lane splitting.
Maybe you should slow down on the next blind turn, eh?
People in the USA definitely do not pay enough attention behind the wheel.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654032</id>
	<title>Another attempt at a technical solution...</title>
	<author>mvdwege</author>
	<datestamp>1269805920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a social problem. No amount of gadgets is going to stop idiots from wanting to yammer away instead of paying attention; witness the mechanic in this discussion mentioning how many of those warning systems he disconnected.</p><p>The solution is brutally simple: three strikes, and you're out. Three tickets for driving while on the phone? Lose your license. Need your car for work? You should have thought of that and moved to the side of the road before dividing your attention between traffic and your important conversation.</p><p>Otherwise it is time for some good old vigilantism and just shoot them in the head. It's not as if they have any brains to splatter the inside of the car, so that keeps its resale value.</p><p>
Mart</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a social problem .
No amount of gadgets is going to stop idiots from wanting to yammer away instead of paying attention ; witness the mechanic in this discussion mentioning how many of those warning systems he disconnected.The solution is brutally simple : three strikes , and you 're out .
Three tickets for driving while on the phone ?
Lose your license .
Need your car for work ?
You should have thought of that and moved to the side of the road before dividing your attention between traffic and your important conversation.Otherwise it is time for some good old vigilantism and just shoot them in the head .
It 's not as if they have any brains to splatter the inside of the car , so that keeps its resale value .
Mart</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a social problem.
No amount of gadgets is going to stop idiots from wanting to yammer away instead of paying attention; witness the mechanic in this discussion mentioning how many of those warning systems he disconnected.The solution is brutally simple: three strikes, and you're out.
Three tickets for driving while on the phone?
Lose your license.
Need your car for work?
You should have thought of that and moved to the side of the road before dividing your attention between traffic and your important conversation.Otherwise it is time for some good old vigilantism and just shoot them in the head.
It's not as if they have any brains to splatter the inside of the car, so that keeps its resale value.
Mart</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657770</id>
	<title>Re:This story...</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269879960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is news fore nerds, even if it's just "news for nerds to ridicule". The suicide bombings in Moscow aren't news for nerds, they're news for everybody including nerds, unlike this story and unlike news about Linux or Microsoft or Apple or SpaceX or NASA.</p><p>If you don't want to read it, don't click on it. Simple. I mean, there are a lot of good, nerdy  stories on the front page, there's no sense in bitching about one or two you don't like.</p><p>Or HIBT?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is news fore nerds , even if it 's just " news for nerds to ridicule " .
The suicide bombings in Moscow are n't news for nerds , they 're news for everybody including nerds , unlike this story and unlike news about Linux or Microsoft or Apple or SpaceX or NASA.If you do n't want to read it , do n't click on it .
Simple. I mean , there are a lot of good , nerdy stories on the front page , there 's no sense in bitching about one or two you do n't like.Or HIBT ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is news fore nerds, even if it's just "news for nerds to ridicule".
The suicide bombings in Moscow aren't news for nerds, they're news for everybody including nerds, unlike this story and unlike news about Linux or Microsoft or Apple or SpaceX or NASA.If you don't want to read it, don't click on it.
Simple. I mean, there are a lot of good, nerdy  stories on the front page, there's no sense in bitching about one or two you don't like.Or HIBT?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31658396</id>
	<title>Re:Number one cause of accidents?</title>
	<author>eth1</author>
	<datestamp>1269882540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This.</p><p>If talking on the phone/to a passenger/messing with the radio/whatever doesn't affect the amount of attention you can direct toward driving, it just means you're not paying enough attention in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This.If talking on the phone/to a passenger/messing with the radio/whatever does n't affect the amount of attention you can direct toward driving , it just means you 're not paying enough attention in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This.If talking on the phone/to a passenger/messing with the radio/whatever doesn't affect the amount of attention you can direct toward driving, it just means you're not paying enough attention in the first place.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654416</id>
	<title>Re:Pressure monitors in the steering wheel</title>
	<author>Rockoon</author>
	<datestamp>1269854700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sure it might annoy those who prefer driving with one hand, but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway.</p></div><p>
Using twice as many muscles is safer? Really?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure it might annoy those who prefer driving with one hand , but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway .
Using twice as many muscles is safer ?
Really ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure it might annoy those who prefer driving with one hand, but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway.
Using twice as many muscles is safer?
Really?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653978</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654026</id>
	<title>Re:Up next...</title>
	<author>Dahamma</author>
	<datestamp>1269805860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pick your battles, man!</p><p>I find a lot of Timothy's posts excruciatingly painful, too.  But this one was unbiased, linked to a fairly interesting article, and by any stretch had a title that is completely typical of any print or online editorial "catch your eye" titles or leads.  If anything commenters should be praising it as the kind of thing we want him to post on slashdot...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pick your battles , man ! I find a lot of Timothy 's posts excruciatingly painful , too .
But this one was unbiased , linked to a fairly interesting article , and by any stretch had a title that is completely typical of any print or online editorial " catch your eye " titles or leads .
If anything commenters should be praising it as the kind of thing we want him to post on slashdot.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pick your battles, man!I find a lot of Timothy's posts excruciatingly painful, too.
But this one was unbiased, linked to a fairly interesting article, and by any stretch had a title that is completely typical of any print or online editorial "catch your eye" titles or leads.
If anything commenters should be praising it as the kind of thing we want him to post on slashdot...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653928</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656924</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269876660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Were you the Bandit or the Snowman?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Were you the Bandit or the Snowman ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Were you the Bandit or the Snowman?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654216</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654588</id>
	<title>Missing the point</title>
	<author>bradley13</author>
	<datestamp>1269857160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And you, sir, are missing the point. We will almost certainly ask our mechanic if he can disable some of the warnings in our car. Not because we dont wear seatbelts, but because the warnings are a nuisance, and sometimes actually dangerous (see below).

</p><p>There is the parking assistant that beeps when you are close to an object in front of your car. Fine for parking. Drive slowly in a blizzard, and it beeps at the snowflakes, driving you absolutely nuts in the process.

</p><p>There is the warning that an object is close behind you. This is supposed to detect automatically if you have a trailer. But sometimes it does not - for no reason we can figure. So you get to tow your trailer, with the car yammering at you the entire trip.

</p><p>There is the warning for glare ice. Implemented so that anytime the temperature changes to 3 degrees centigrade, it warns you. On dry roads, on wet roads, it doesn't matter. It also doesn't matter if it has already warned you 10 times on the same trip.

</p><p>Or even take the seat-belt warning: If I go shopping, or put my gym bag on the seat, the thing goes off. Do I really have to strap my groceries and my gym bag in?

</p><p>Warnings with so many false positives are counterproductive. Either people find them so irritating that they disable the things. Or else they get in the habit of ignoring them. Either way, the warnings wind up useless as such - but they can distract at critical moments.

</p><p>To illustrate that last: I was driving on nasty, icy roads. My car started to skid on glare ice (by the way, no warning, as it was below 3 degrees outside). At this moment, I discovered a warning I had never heard before: the car knew it was skidding and blared at me. Thanks a lot - I knew bloody well I was skidding, and I really, <i>really</i> did not appreciate that distraction at that particular moment in time.

</p><p>Warning should (a) essentially never have false positives, (b) only warn you if it something you might not notice on your own (and can do something about), and (c) be configurable by the user. Sadly, car manufacturers don't seem to bother to invest the effort to meet any of these conditions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And you , sir , are missing the point .
We will almost certainly ask our mechanic if he can disable some of the warnings in our car .
Not because we dont wear seatbelts , but because the warnings are a nuisance , and sometimes actually dangerous ( see below ) .
There is the parking assistant that beeps when you are close to an object in front of your car .
Fine for parking .
Drive slowly in a blizzard , and it beeps at the snowflakes , driving you absolutely nuts in the process .
There is the warning that an object is close behind you .
This is supposed to detect automatically if you have a trailer .
But sometimes it does not - for no reason we can figure .
So you get to tow your trailer , with the car yammering at you the entire trip .
There is the warning for glare ice .
Implemented so that anytime the temperature changes to 3 degrees centigrade , it warns you .
On dry roads , on wet roads , it does n't matter .
It also does n't matter if it has already warned you 10 times on the same trip .
Or even take the seat-belt warning : If I go shopping , or put my gym bag on the seat , the thing goes off .
Do I really have to strap my groceries and my gym bag in ?
Warnings with so many false positives are counterproductive .
Either people find them so irritating that they disable the things .
Or else they get in the habit of ignoring them .
Either way , the warnings wind up useless as such - but they can distract at critical moments .
To illustrate that last : I was driving on nasty , icy roads .
My car started to skid on glare ice ( by the way , no warning , as it was below 3 degrees outside ) .
At this moment , I discovered a warning I had never heard before : the car knew it was skidding and blared at me .
Thanks a lot - I knew bloody well I was skidding , and I really , really did not appreciate that distraction at that particular moment in time .
Warning should ( a ) essentially never have false positives , ( b ) only warn you if it something you might not notice on your own ( and can do something about ) , and ( c ) be configurable by the user .
Sadly , car manufacturers do n't seem to bother to invest the effort to meet any of these conditions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And you, sir, are missing the point.
We will almost certainly ask our mechanic if he can disable some of the warnings in our car.
Not because we dont wear seatbelts, but because the warnings are a nuisance, and sometimes actually dangerous (see below).
There is the parking assistant that beeps when you are close to an object in front of your car.
Fine for parking.
Drive slowly in a blizzard, and it beeps at the snowflakes, driving you absolutely nuts in the process.
There is the warning that an object is close behind you.
This is supposed to detect automatically if you have a trailer.
But sometimes it does not - for no reason we can figure.
So you get to tow your trailer, with the car yammering at you the entire trip.
There is the warning for glare ice.
Implemented so that anytime the temperature changes to 3 degrees centigrade, it warns you.
On dry roads, on wet roads, it doesn't matter.
It also doesn't matter if it has already warned you 10 times on the same trip.
Or even take the seat-belt warning: If I go shopping, or put my gym bag on the seat, the thing goes off.
Do I really have to strap my groceries and my gym bag in?
Warnings with so many false positives are counterproductive.
Either people find them so irritating that they disable the things.
Or else they get in the habit of ignoring them.
Either way, the warnings wind up useless as such - but they can distract at critical moments.
To illustrate that last: I was driving on nasty, icy roads.
My car started to skid on glare ice (by the way, no warning, as it was below 3 degrees outside).
At this moment, I discovered a warning I had never heard before: the car knew it was skidding and blared at me.
Thanks a lot - I knew bloody well I was skidding, and I really, really did not appreciate that distraction at that particular moment in time.
Warning should (a) essentially never have false positives, (b) only warn you if it something you might not notice on your own (and can do something about), and (c) be configurable by the user.
Sadly, car manufacturers don't seem to bother to invest the effort to meet any of these conditions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653934</id>
	<title>Can you hear me now?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269804660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I said, First post!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I said , First post !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I said, First post!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655054</id>
	<title>Re:How about this?</title>
	<author>jandersen</author>
	<datestamp>1269863700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So unless this system pulls the car over at the next save opportunity and doesn't let you start the engine until you've put the fricking phone away, this won't do squat</p></div><p>You are right of course; but how about this, then: Instead of making noises, why not require mobile operators to not accept calls other than to the emergency services on the motorway. They can do that, since they can already tell you position fairly accurately from the signal strengths on the local receivers. Simple and easy - nobody can natter on like idiots on the motorway, and you could extend the system to other areas as well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So unless this system pulls the car over at the next save opportunity and does n't let you start the engine until you 've put the fricking phone away , this wo n't do squatYou are right of course ; but how about this , then : Instead of making noises , why not require mobile operators to not accept calls other than to the emergency services on the motorway .
They can do that , since they can already tell you position fairly accurately from the signal strengths on the local receivers .
Simple and easy - nobody can natter on like idiots on the motorway , and you could extend the system to other areas as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So unless this system pulls the car over at the next save opportunity and doesn't let you start the engine until you've put the fricking phone away, this won't do squatYou are right of course; but how about this, then: Instead of making noises, why not require mobile operators to not accept calls other than to the emergency services on the motorway.
They can do that, since they can already tell you position fairly accurately from the signal strengths on the local receivers.
Simple and easy - nobody can natter on like idiots on the motorway, and you could extend the system to other areas as well.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657574</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269879240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Were you in my car saturday?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Were you in my car saturday ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Were you in my car saturday?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654352</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269853620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Law, or otherwise, such a system would be disabled as soon as the customers patience wore out, and there will never be a shortage of mechanics willing to do it for you if the price is right.</p></div><p>Mechanic? Price? skrew that! <a href="http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+disable+car+alarm" title="lmgtfy.com" rel="nofollow"> how to disable car alarm </a> [lmgtfy.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Law , or otherwise , such a system would be disabled as soon as the customers patience wore out , and there will never be a shortage of mechanics willing to do it for you if the price is right.Mechanic ?
Price ? skrew that !
how to disable car alarm [ lmgtfy.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Law, or otherwise, such a system would be disabled as soon as the customers patience wore out, and there will never be a shortage of mechanics willing to do it for you if the price is right.Mechanic?
Price? skrew that!
how to disable car alarm  [lmgtfy.com]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654790</id>
	<title>Cell phone jamming?</title>
	<author>Turzyx</author>
	<datestamp>1269860220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>People caught using a mobile when driving should have these installed into their motors, in the same vein as electronic tags. Friends can't call people when you're driving? That's your problem; maybe peer pressure will work. Driving is not a right, it is a privilege, and we take away other 'privileges' such as access to the internet and computer equipment for things that couldn't actually result in unnecessary death.</htmltext>
<tokenext>People caught using a mobile when driving should have these installed into their motors , in the same vein as electronic tags .
Friends ca n't call people when you 're driving ?
That 's your problem ; maybe peer pressure will work .
Driving is not a right , it is a privilege , and we take away other 'privileges ' such as access to the internet and computer equipment for things that could n't actually result in unnecessary death .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People caught using a mobile when driving should have these installed into their motors, in the same vein as electronic tags.
Friends can't call people when you're driving?
That's your problem; maybe peer pressure will work.
Driving is not a right, it is a privilege, and we take away other 'privileges' such as access to the internet and computer equipment for things that couldn't actually result in unnecessary death.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656642</id>
	<title>We could see this coming in 1977!</title>
	<author>sgtrock</author>
	<datestamp>1269875340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7u17Tmz5To" title="youtube.com">Kentucky Fried Movie</a> [youtube.com] is still one of the funniest things that I've ever seen.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kentucky Fried Movie [ youtube.com ] is still one of the funniest things that I 've ever seen .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kentucky Fried Movie [youtube.com] is still one of the funniest things that I've ever seen.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655934</id>
	<title>Re:Pressure monitors in the steering wheel</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269871980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congrats, you've just created a market for the "Fake steering wheel -- hand" accessory! Comes free with your purchase of the inflatable car-pool lane doll!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congrats , you 've just created a market for the " Fake steering wheel -- hand " accessory !
Comes free with your purchase of the inflatable car-pool lane doll !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congrats, you've just created a market for the "Fake steering wheel -- hand" accessory!
Comes free with your purchase of the inflatable car-pool lane doll!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31658400</id>
	<title>If you're driving 1000 miles in a day...</title>
	<author>sean.peters</author>
	<datestamp>1269882540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... you're already unsafe. If you drove 12 hours a day, you'd be <b>averaging</b> more than 80 mph. Even if you drove 16 hours a day, you'd be averaging around 63 mph. So one of two things is going on here: you're either 1) driving at ridiculously unsafe speeds, or 2) you're driving so long without a break that your attention is bound to be wandering. Most likely both.</p><p>I agree with the larger point - when driving cross-country, it's just not practical (or necessary, really) to hold onto the steering wheel with both hands. But 1000 miles/day? Kind of a silly exaggeration.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... you 're already unsafe .
If you drove 12 hours a day , you 'd be averaging more than 80 mph .
Even if you drove 16 hours a day , you 'd be averaging around 63 mph .
So one of two things is going on here : you 're either 1 ) driving at ridiculously unsafe speeds , or 2 ) you 're driving so long without a break that your attention is bound to be wandering .
Most likely both.I agree with the larger point - when driving cross-country , it 's just not practical ( or necessary , really ) to hold onto the steering wheel with both hands .
But 1000 miles/day ?
Kind of a silly exaggeration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... you're already unsafe.
If you drove 12 hours a day, you'd be averaging more than 80 mph.
Even if you drove 16 hours a day, you'd be averaging around 63 mph.
So one of two things is going on here: you're either 1) driving at ridiculously unsafe speeds, or 2) you're driving so long without a break that your attention is bound to be wandering.
Most likely both.I agree with the larger point - when driving cross-country, it's just not practical (or necessary, really) to hold onto the steering wheel with both hands.
But 1000 miles/day?
Kind of a silly exaggeration.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654966</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654808</id>
	<title>One time...</title>
	<author>DryGrian</author>
	<datestamp>1269860520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I got a ticket for driving while talking on a cell right after California enacted the law. I was at a stop light, my phone rang, and I answered it to tell them that I was driving and would call them back. I hung up, the light turned green, and I got pulled over and handed a ticket that stated I was being cited for (and I quote) "failure to purchase a BlueTooth device".</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got a ticket for driving while talking on a cell right after California enacted the law .
I was at a stop light , my phone rang , and I answered it to tell them that I was driving and would call them back .
I hung up , the light turned green , and I got pulled over and handed a ticket that stated I was being cited for ( and I quote ) " failure to purchase a BlueTooth device " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got a ticket for driving while talking on a cell right after California enacted the law.
I was at a stop light, my phone rang, and I answered it to tell them that I was driving and would call them back.
I hung up, the light turned green, and I got pulled over and handed a ticket that stated I was being cited for (and I quote) "failure to purchase a BlueTooth device".
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655434</id>
	<title>Re:How about this?</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1269868260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You are right of course; but how about this, then: Instead of making noises, why not require mobile operators to not accept calls other than to the emergency services on the motorway.</p></div><p>The superficial retort is bus passengers will be highly annoyed.  But, upon reflection, who really wants to be trapped on a bus listening to someone babble mindlessly on the phone?  Its about as elegant as those folks in the 80s whom played ghetto blasters on public transportation.  I recall there was even a scene in a star trek movie making fun of that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are right of course ; but how about this , then : Instead of making noises , why not require mobile operators to not accept calls other than to the emergency services on the motorway.The superficial retort is bus passengers will be highly annoyed .
But , upon reflection , who really wants to be trapped on a bus listening to someone babble mindlessly on the phone ?
Its about as elegant as those folks in the 80s whom played ghetto blasters on public transportation .
I recall there was even a scene in a star trek movie making fun of that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are right of course; but how about this, then: Instead of making noises, why not require mobile operators to not accept calls other than to the emergency services on the motorway.The superficial retort is bus passengers will be highly annoyed.
But, upon reflection, who really wants to be trapped on a bus listening to someone babble mindlessly on the phone?
Its about as elegant as those folks in the 80s whom played ghetto blasters on public transportation.
I recall there was even a scene in a star trek movie making fun of that.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655054</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654220</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>JWSmythe</author>
	<datestamp>1269894720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; It's not even the remoteness of the conversation.  A conversation, or worse a heated argument, with passengers in the car can be just as dangerous.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; They've made laws regarding bus drivers, which is why you get the white line you can't cross.  They can't be distracted while driving.  Well, they *shouldn't* be distracted.  It's harder to institute for cars though.  It's not like you can stop the car, radio for a cop, and say "my wife was bothering me while I was driving."</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Just picture the average family on a road trip.  Kids screaming in the back seat, wife bitching that you're driving too fast, too slow, going taking the wrong route, etc, etc, etc. "Daddy, are we there yet?" "I have to pee" "I'm hungry" "Billy's poking me" "Can't you drive faster?" "I told you, if we took the other way, we'd already be there." "Do you know where you're going?" "We should stop for directions" "Can't you put something else on the radio?" "It's hot." "It's cold." "My ass hurts from this seat." "Can't you get us there any sooner?" "Why do you always ignore me?" "Go faster" "Do you have to drive so fast?" "Do you have to follow him so close?" "I'm bored." "Now I know why mother told me not to marry you."</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; SHUT UP AND LET ME DRIVE!  I KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING!  WE'LL GET THERE WHEN I SAY!  IF YOU HAVE TO PEE, PISS IN A BOTTLE!  IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY DRIVING GET OUT AND WALK! AND I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR FAT COW OF A MOTHER SAYS, YOUR DAD SAYS SHE'S A WHORE!</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; What's worse, that or a quick phone call, "Honey, I'll be home in 1/2 hour.  Pick up milk?  ok.  See you soon."</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I know, people are obnoxious about their phone calls, but at least those are shorter than the constant distraction of the passengers that you can't get rid of.  Well, you can get rid of them, but there are laws about leaving dead bodies by the side of the highway.  Something about littering and a $100 fine, if I remember the signs right.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    It 's not even the remoteness of the conversation .
A conversation , or worse a heated argument , with passengers in the car can be just as dangerous .
    They 've made laws regarding bus drivers , which is why you get the white line you ca n't cross .
They ca n't be distracted while driving .
Well , they * should n't * be distracted .
It 's harder to institute for cars though .
It 's not like you can stop the car , radio for a cop , and say " my wife was bothering me while I was driving .
"     Just picture the average family on a road trip .
Kids screaming in the back seat , wife bitching that you 're driving too fast , too slow , going taking the wrong route , etc , etc , etc .
" Daddy , are we there yet ?
" " I have to pee " " I 'm hungry " " Billy 's poking me " " Ca n't you drive faster ?
" " I told you , if we took the other way , we 'd already be there .
" " Do you know where you 're going ?
" " We should stop for directions " " Ca n't you put something else on the radio ?
" " It 's hot .
" " It 's cold .
" " My ass hurts from this seat .
" " Ca n't you get us there any sooner ?
" " Why do you always ignore me ?
" " Go faster " " Do you have to drive so fast ?
" " Do you have to follow him so close ?
" " I 'm bored .
" " Now I know why mother told me not to marry you .
"     SHUT UP AND LET ME DRIVE !
I KNOW WHERE WE 'RE GOING !
WE 'LL GET THERE WHEN I SAY !
IF YOU HAVE TO PEE , PISS IN A BOTTLE !
IF YOU DO N'T LIKE MY DRIVING GET OUT AND WALK !
AND I DO N'T CARE WHAT YOUR FAT COW OF A MOTHER SAYS , YOUR DAD SAYS SHE 'S A WHORE !
    What 's worse , that or a quick phone call , " Honey , I 'll be home in 1/2 hour .
Pick up milk ?
ok. See you soon .
"     I know , people are obnoxious about their phone calls , but at least those are shorter than the constant distraction of the passengers that you ca n't get rid of .
Well , you can get rid of them , but there are laws about leaving dead bodies by the side of the highway .
Something about littering and a $ 100 fine , if I remember the signs right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    It's not even the remoteness of the conversation.
A conversation, or worse a heated argument, with passengers in the car can be just as dangerous.
    They've made laws regarding bus drivers, which is why you get the white line you can't cross.
They can't be distracted while driving.
Well, they *shouldn't* be distracted.
It's harder to institute for cars though.
It's not like you can stop the car, radio for a cop, and say "my wife was bothering me while I was driving.
"
    Just picture the average family on a road trip.
Kids screaming in the back seat, wife bitching that you're driving too fast, too slow, going taking the wrong route, etc, etc, etc.
"Daddy, are we there yet?
" "I have to pee" "I'm hungry" "Billy's poking me" "Can't you drive faster?
" "I told you, if we took the other way, we'd already be there.
" "Do you know where you're going?
" "We should stop for directions" "Can't you put something else on the radio?
" "It's hot.
" "It's cold.
" "My ass hurts from this seat.
" "Can't you get us there any sooner?
" "Why do you always ignore me?
" "Go faster" "Do you have to drive so fast?
" "Do you have to follow him so close?
" "I'm bored.
" "Now I know why mother told me not to marry you.
"
    SHUT UP AND LET ME DRIVE!
I KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING!
WE'LL GET THERE WHEN I SAY!
IF YOU HAVE TO PEE, PISS IN A BOTTLE!
IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY DRIVING GET OUT AND WALK!
AND I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR FAT COW OF A MOTHER SAYS, YOUR DAD SAYS SHE'S A WHORE!
    What's worse, that or a quick phone call, "Honey, I'll be home in 1/2 hour.
Pick up milk?
ok.  See you soon.
"
    I know, people are obnoxious about their phone calls, but at least those are shorter than the constant distraction of the passengers that you can't get rid of.
Well, you can get rid of them, but there are laws about leaving dead bodies by the side of the highway.
Something about littering and a $100 fine, if I remember the signs right.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656680</id>
	<title>Re:Better to warn everyone else.</title>
	<author>javakcl</author>
	<datestamp>1269875400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I personally thought that since there are so many cell phones with GPS chips in them now, the cell phone could detect that it's traveling at a higher speed than just walking and disable itself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I personally thought that since there are so many cell phones with GPS chips in them now , the cell phone could detect that it 's traveling at a higher speed than just walking and disable itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I personally thought that since there are so many cell phones with GPS chips in them now, the cell phone could detect that it's traveling at a higher speed than just walking and disable itself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653968</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31667182</id>
	<title>Stupid Machinery programmed by Stupid People</title>
	<author>dogzdik</author>
	<datestamp>1269891660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I like automation - up to a point.<p>.</p><p> The line is crossed when I no longer have control or can regain control, when I need to have control.</p><p>.</p><p> Hence the desire to use a big handgun on the car computer and the idiots who program that nagging shit into it......

</p><p>.</p><p> My dream is to have a house that asks me to confirm that I want to have the light on, every time I switch the light on, by asking me, "Hi Dogzdik, did you know you have activated the illumitronic universal room lighting system, if you want the lighting to commence, say "YES", if you do not want the lighting to commence, say "NO" or wait 30 seconds before pressing the light switch on again"....
</p><p>.</p><p> jesus fuck... I hate automation, phone robots and stupid, stupid shit and the people who make it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like automation - up to a point.. The line is crossed when I no longer have control or can regain control , when I need to have control.. Hence the desire to use a big handgun on the car computer and the idiots who program that nagging shit into it..... . . My dream is to have a house that asks me to confirm that I want to have the light on , every time I switch the light on , by asking me , " Hi Dogzdik , did you know you have activated the illumitronic universal room lighting system , if you want the lighting to commence , say " YES " , if you do not want the lighting to commence , say " NO " or wait 30 seconds before pressing the light switch on again " ... . . jesus fuck... I hate automation , phone robots and stupid , stupid shit and the people who make it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like automation - up to a point.. The line is crossed when I no longer have control or can regain control, when I need to have control.. Hence the desire to use a big handgun on the car computer and the idiots who program that nagging shit into it......

. My dream is to have a house that asks me to confirm that I want to have the light on, every time I switch the light on, by asking me, "Hi Dogzdik, did you know you have activated the illumitronic universal room lighting system, if you want the lighting to commence, say "YES", if you do not want the lighting to commence, say "NO" or wait 30 seconds before pressing the light switch on again"....
. jesus fuck... I hate automation, phone robots and stupid, stupid shit and the people who make it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654572</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269856800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have you tried to put on the seatbelt first, and then start the engine?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you tried to put on the seatbelt first , and then start the engine ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you tried to put on the seatbelt first, and then start the engine?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655126</id>
	<title>Re:Another attempt at a technical solution...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269864420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Need your car for work? You should have thought of that and moved to the side of the road before dividing your attention between traffic and your important conversation.</p></div><p>Moving to the side of the road might not necessarily be safer, either. Just 2 days ago a man was killed on a motorway here in Sydney by a truck veering off-course.</p><p>The man died because he was pulled over on the side of the road,  using his phone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Need your car for work ?
You should have thought of that and moved to the side of the road before dividing your attention between traffic and your important conversation.Moving to the side of the road might not necessarily be safer , either .
Just 2 days ago a man was killed on a motorway here in Sydney by a truck veering off-course.The man died because he was pulled over on the side of the road , using his phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Need your car for work?
You should have thought of that and moved to the side of the road before dividing your attention between traffic and your important conversation.Moving to the side of the road might not necessarily be safer, either.
Just 2 days ago a man was killed on a motorway here in Sydney by a truck veering off-course.The man died because he was pulled over on the side of the road,  using his phone.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655744</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269870600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe or maybe not, but people don't only make short calls in a car!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe or maybe not , but people do n't only make short calls in a car !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe or maybe not, but people don't only make short calls in a car!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654220</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655596</id>
	<title>Re:Why spend money on a phone warning system when</title>
	<author>bsDaemon</author>
	<datestamp>1269869520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or even better, fit each car with a cellular phone jammer that kicks in when the car starts, so you have no way of making a call while driving.  Fit the car with a "panic" button which makes a call to 911 and transmits GPS coordinates, so if you have an actual emergency you're covered, but have to pull over to send all your lulz and omgs to your bffjill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or even better , fit each car with a cellular phone jammer that kicks in when the car starts , so you have no way of making a call while driving .
Fit the car with a " panic " button which makes a call to 911 and transmits GPS coordinates , so if you have an actual emergency you 're covered , but have to pull over to send all your lulz and omgs to your bffjill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or even better, fit each car with a cellular phone jammer that kicks in when the car starts, so you have no way of making a call while driving.
Fit the car with a "panic" button which makes a call to 911 and transmits GPS coordinates, so if you have an actual emergency you're covered, but have to pull over to send all your lulz and omgs to your bffjill.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654456</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653932</id>
	<title>as it is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269804660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the law makes it more dangerous to text while driving -- instead of holding the phone up by your face where you can see the road you have to hold it down in your lap. good work, leglistators!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the law makes it more dangerous to text while driving -- instead of holding the phone up by your face where you can see the road you have to hold it down in your lap .
good work , leglistators !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the law makes it more dangerous to text while driving -- instead of holding the phone up by your face where you can see the road you have to hold it down in your lap.
good work, leglistators!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657612</id>
	<title>Cue the...</title>
	<author>ShannaraFan</author>
	<datestamp>1269879420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... "I can easily drive while texting, shaving, and putting on my pants, simultaneously.  Why punish me when my uber-skills are vastly superior to everyone else on the road?" replies...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... " I can easily drive while texting , shaving , and putting on my pants , simultaneously .
Why punish me when my uber-skills are vastly superior to everyone else on the road ?
" replies.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... "I can easily drive while texting, shaving, and putting on my pants, simultaneously.
Why punish me when my uber-skills are vastly superior to everyone else on the road?
" replies...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654418</id>
	<title>Re:This story...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269854760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look at the bright side.  At least Slashdot is not posting stories about Tiger Woods and Sandra Bullock.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look at the bright side .
At least Slashdot is not posting stories about Tiger Woods and Sandra Bullock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look at the bright side.
At least Slashdot is not posting stories about Tiger Woods and Sandra Bullock.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653998</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655906</id>
	<title>Re:as it is</title>
	<author>Attila Dimedici</author>
	<datestamp>1269871740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, since all the studies show that talking on a hands-free cell phone is just as distracting as talking on a handheld cellphone that's a great idea. As for your idea, why don't we put a device in cars that detects if you're smoking pot, then it shuts down the car, locks the doors and calls the police. <br>
I am sick and tired of people wanting to pass laws/implement solutions to problems that don't address the whole problem and are redundant (that is they make specific things illegal that are already covered under more general laws).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , since all the studies show that talking on a hands-free cell phone is just as distracting as talking on a handheld cellphone that 's a great idea .
As for your idea , why do n't we put a device in cars that detects if you 're smoking pot , then it shuts down the car , locks the doors and calls the police .
I am sick and tired of people wanting to pass laws/implement solutions to problems that do n't address the whole problem and are redundant ( that is they make specific things illegal that are already covered under more general laws ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, since all the studies show that talking on a hands-free cell phone is just as distracting as talking on a handheld cellphone that's a great idea.
As for your idea, why don't we put a device in cars that detects if you're smoking pot, then it shuts down the car, locks the doors and calls the police.
I am sick and tired of people wanting to pass laws/implement solutions to problems that don't address the whole problem and are redundant (that is they make specific things illegal that are already covered under more general laws).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654196</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654014</id>
	<title>Why stop at just beeping? Draconian society</title>
	<author>LaZZaR</author>
	<datestamp>1269805740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With cars becoming all *-by-wire, if you are going to the effort to detect the phone being used, why not get it to shut the car down?<br>(Of course there are safety issues here, but you get my drift)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With cars becoming all * -by-wire , if you are going to the effort to detect the phone being used , why not get it to shut the car down ?
( Of course there are safety issues here , but you get my drift )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With cars becoming all *-by-wire, if you are going to the effort to detect the phone being used, why not get it to shut the car down?
(Of course there are safety issues here, but you get my drift)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31655942</id>
	<title>Typo in summary</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1269871980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It should instead read<p><div class="quote"><p>We know that one of the dumbest things anyone has ever done in the history of mankind, bar none, is typing a text message while attempting to drive a motor vehicle</p></div><p>
We should probably instead make cars that automatically wrap themselves around phone poles when their drivers are engaged in such activities, to spare the rest of the driving public from their stupidity.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It should instead readWe know that one of the dumbest things anyone has ever done in the history of mankind , bar none , is typing a text message while attempting to drive a motor vehicle We should probably instead make cars that automatically wrap themselves around phone poles when their drivers are engaged in such activities , to spare the rest of the driving public from their stupidity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should instead readWe know that one of the dumbest things anyone has ever done in the history of mankind, bar none, is typing a text message while attempting to drive a motor vehicle
We should probably instead make cars that automatically wrap themselves around phone poles when their drivers are engaged in such activities, to spare the rest of the driving public from their stupidity.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31661264</id>
	<title>Re:Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1269895560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, what is up in the air is if the faked "studies" will successfully convince enough of the population that cell phones are evil and get laws passed against them before the next generation gains enough power to stop it by just ignoring them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , what is up in the air is if the faked " studies " will successfully convince enough of the population that cell phones are evil and get laws passed against them before the next generation gains enough power to stop it by just ignoring them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, what is up in the air is if the faked "studies" will successfully convince enough of the population that cell phones are evil and get laws passed against them before the next generation gains enough power to stop it by just ignoring them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656852</id>
	<title>Re:Number one cause of accidents?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269876300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't know what the current numbers are, but as of a couple of years ago the story was that the leading cause of distracted driver accidents was messing with the climate control and radio.</p></div><p>[[Citation Needed]]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know what the current numbers are , but as of a couple of years ago the story was that the leading cause of distracted driver accidents was messing with the climate control and radio .
[ [ Citation Needed ] ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know what the current numbers are, but as of a couple of years ago the story was that the leading cause of distracted driver accidents was messing with the climate control and radio.
[[Citation Needed]]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653948</id>
	<title>Have they shown that hands-free devices help?</title>
	<author>irockash</author>
	<datestamp>1269804960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought it was still up in the air. Isn't the distraction being on a call?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it was still up in the air .
Is n't the distraction being on a call ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it was still up in the air.
Isn't the distraction being on a call?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31658604</id>
	<title>There is a easy way to fix this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269883560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a easy way to fix this. Just shield the airwaves inside the car so that phones don't have any signal inside the car. how is that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a easy way to fix this .
Just shield the airwaves inside the car so that phones do n't have any signal inside the car .
how is that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a easy way to fix this.
Just shield the airwaves inside the car so that phones don't have any signal inside the car.
how is that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653998</id>
	<title>This story...</title>
	<author>bmo</author>
	<datestamp>1269805560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How far have we drifted from "news for nerds, stuff that matters."</p><p>This isn't news.<br>It doesn't fucking matter.</p><p>In other actual news:</p><p>There have been two suicide bombings in Moscow's metro this Monday morning rush hour.<br>All 4 of the Rio Tinto executives on trial in China have been found guilty of bribery, with a 30 year possible maximum sentence.</p><p>--<br>BMO</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How far have we drifted from " news for nerds , stuff that matters .
" This is n't news.It does n't fucking matter.In other actual news : There have been two suicide bombings in Moscow 's metro this Monday morning rush hour.All 4 of the Rio Tinto executives on trial in China have been found guilty of bribery , with a 30 year possible maximum sentence.--BMO</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How far have we drifted from "news for nerds, stuff that matters.
"This isn't news.It doesn't fucking matter.In other actual news:There have been two suicide bombings in Moscow's metro this Monday morning rush hour.All 4 of the Rio Tinto executives on trial in China have been found guilty of bribery, with a 30 year possible maximum sentence.--BMO</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653928</id>
	<title>Up next...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269804660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will Timothy post another article asking a vague, sensationalist question in the title?  The answer may surprise you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will Timothy post another article asking a vague , sensationalist question in the title ?
The answer may surprise you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will Timothy post another article asking a vague, sensationalist question in the title?
The answer may surprise you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657440</id>
	<title>You keep the cash.  I'll keep my clunker.</title>
	<author>RogueWarrior65</author>
	<datestamp>1269878640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All the more reason to keep my awesome 1986 Toyota 4Runner in shape.  I get to tell the nanny state to go pound sand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All the more reason to keep my awesome 1986 Toyota 4Runner in shape .
I get to tell the nanny state to go pound sand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the more reason to keep my awesome 1986 Toyota 4Runner in shape.
I get to tell the nanny state to go pound sand.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654850</id>
	<title>Sour grapes?</title>
	<author>bradley13</author>
	<datestamp>1269860820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which Switzerland do you live in? Also living in Switzerland, I can tell you that there are plenty of cheaper models on the roads. Go look in the parking lot at the Migros (the largest supermarket chain).

</p><p>What <i>is</i> different is that your car registration must be renewed every two years, and any significant, visible rust is forbidden. Hence, you don't find any rust-buckets or junkers on the roads.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which Switzerland do you live in ?
Also living in Switzerland , I can tell you that there are plenty of cheaper models on the roads .
Go look in the parking lot at the Migros ( the largest supermarket chain ) .
What is different is that your car registration must be renewed every two years , and any significant , visible rust is forbidden .
Hence , you do n't find any rust-buckets or junkers on the roads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which Switzerland do you live in?
Also living in Switzerland, I can tell you that there are plenty of cheaper models on the roads.
Go look in the parking lot at the Migros (the largest supermarket chain).
What is different is that your car registration must be renewed every two years, and any significant, visible rust is forbidden.
Hence, you don't find any rust-buckets or junkers on the roads.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654210</id>
	<title>So Helpful</title>
	<author>WiseWeasel</author>
	<datestamp>1269894600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"...there are new applications in the works that could lead to a warning if we're driving with a cell phone in our hand"</p><p>Uh, I think the driver already knew they were driving with a cell phone in their hand; a warning seems superfluous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...there are new applications in the works that could lead to a warning if we 're driving with a cell phone in our hand " Uh , I think the driver already knew they were driving with a cell phone in their hand ; a warning seems superfluous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...there are new applications in the works that could lead to a warning if we're driving with a cell phone in our hand"Uh, I think the driver already knew they were driving with a cell phone in their hand; a warning seems superfluous.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657276</id>
	<title>Re:How about this?</title>
	<author>Attila Dimedici</author>
	<datestamp>1269878100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But people talking on the phone is something that is so easily fixed with just a few bucks, that I find it really annoying that people still keep holding onto their phones.</p></div><p>Except that most studies show that the majority of the problem is <strong>talking</strong> on the phone, not <strong>holding</strong> the phone. So, what is the inexpensive fix of yours that will address the problem?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But people talking on the phone is something that is so easily fixed with just a few bucks , that I find it really annoying that people still keep holding onto their phones.Except that most studies show that the majority of the problem is talking on the phone , not holding the phone .
So , what is the inexpensive fix of yours that will address the problem ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But people talking on the phone is something that is so easily fixed with just a few bucks, that I find it really annoying that people still keep holding onto their phones.Except that most studies show that the majority of the problem is talking on the phone, not holding the phone.
So, what is the inexpensive fix of yours that will address the problem?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31658460</id>
	<title>Re:Pressure monitors in the steering wheel</title>
	<author>tompaulco</author>
	<datestamp>1269882840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it was really a smart phone, it would eject itself out of the dangerous situation that the driver was attempting to put it in.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it was really a smart phone , it would eject itself out of the dangerous situation that the driver was attempting to put it in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it was really a smart phone, it would eject itself out of the dangerous situation that the driver was attempting to put it in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653978</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654394</id>
	<title>Re:Pressure monitors in the steering wheel</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1269854460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Sure it might annoy those who prefer driving with one hand, but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway."</p><p>Maybe if you drive automatic I guess, but whilst it used to be true with all vehicles, I don't think that's really the case anymore if you drive manual. I find a lot of circumstances where being able to change gear quickly is much more important than two hands on the wheel. Why do I think that's the case now and didn't before? Power steering. Sure without it it is kinda important to use two hands on the wheel, but I do drive with my hand on the stick for more than 30 seconds quite a lot- bad weather, dodgy roads, mad drivers on the road (Friday afternoons!). Certainly I'll admit sometimes I keep my hand on the stick just because it's comfier, but with power steering I'd struggle to see how it's inherently less safe, unless power steering failed.</p><p>Particularly in the UK over the last few months we've had phenomenally bad weather, I know for sure it was more important being able to shift gears on snowy/icey hills because a lower gears can help you keep traction, but when you have grip you need to be in a lower gears to get some speed up so you make it up the hill. Having a vehicle shouting at me because I wasn't doing what it wanted in conditions like that? No thank you.</p><p>But then, I'm not someone whose ever used a phone whilst driving, or who smokes whilst driving (well, at all actually) either, I take it out my pocket and put it in the side pocket and only deal with missed calls/messages when I reach my destinaton. In other words, something like this could only ever be an added hindrance, a distraction, a danger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Sure it might annoy those who prefer driving with one hand , but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway .
" Maybe if you drive automatic I guess , but whilst it used to be true with all vehicles , I do n't think that 's really the case anymore if you drive manual .
I find a lot of circumstances where being able to change gear quickly is much more important than two hands on the wheel .
Why do I think that 's the case now and did n't before ?
Power steering .
Sure without it it is kinda important to use two hands on the wheel , but I do drive with my hand on the stick for more than 30 seconds quite a lot- bad weather , dodgy roads , mad drivers on the road ( Friday afternoons ! ) .
Certainly I 'll admit sometimes I keep my hand on the stick just because it 's comfier , but with power steering I 'd struggle to see how it 's inherently less safe , unless power steering failed.Particularly in the UK over the last few months we 've had phenomenally bad weather , I know for sure it was more important being able to shift gears on snowy/icey hills because a lower gears can help you keep traction , but when you have grip you need to be in a lower gears to get some speed up so you make it up the hill .
Having a vehicle shouting at me because I was n't doing what it wanted in conditions like that ?
No thank you.But then , I 'm not someone whose ever used a phone whilst driving , or who smokes whilst driving ( well , at all actually ) either , I take it out my pocket and put it in the side pocket and only deal with missed calls/messages when I reach my destinaton .
In other words , something like this could only ever be an added hindrance , a distraction , a danger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Sure it might annoy those who prefer driving with one hand, but I suspect driving with two hands might be inherently safer anyway.
"Maybe if you drive automatic I guess, but whilst it used to be true with all vehicles, I don't think that's really the case anymore if you drive manual.
I find a lot of circumstances where being able to change gear quickly is much more important than two hands on the wheel.
Why do I think that's the case now and didn't before?
Power steering.
Sure without it it is kinda important to use two hands on the wheel, but I do drive with my hand on the stick for more than 30 seconds quite a lot- bad weather, dodgy roads, mad drivers on the road (Friday afternoons!).
Certainly I'll admit sometimes I keep my hand on the stick just because it's comfier, but with power steering I'd struggle to see how it's inherently less safe, unless power steering failed.Particularly in the UK over the last few months we've had phenomenally bad weather, I know for sure it was more important being able to shift gears on snowy/icey hills because a lower gears can help you keep traction, but when you have grip you need to be in a lower gears to get some speed up so you make it up the hill.
Having a vehicle shouting at me because I wasn't doing what it wanted in conditions like that?
No thank you.But then, I'm not someone whose ever used a phone whilst driving, or who smokes whilst driving (well, at all actually) either, I take it out my pocket and put it in the side pocket and only deal with missed calls/messages when I reach my destinaton.
In other words, something like this could only ever be an added hindrance, a distraction, a danger.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31653978</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657198</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>DriedClexler</author>
	<datestamp>1269877860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree completely.  While I'm not against a warning for the seat belt, I REALLY hate how it beeps for the seatbelt the MOMENT the ignition is turned.  Who buckles up all the way before turning the ignition?  No -- like you, I turn it on, then while it's starting, buckle up.  The only effect of this regulation is to require me to be irritated or go out of my way *every time* I turn the car on.</p><p>Why the hell can't they allow car makers to delay the warning for five freaking seconds after ignition?  Or until the car starts moving?  Or until it exceeds 5 mph?</p><p>And on the verbal warnings, what ergonomics genius over-ruled the wording, "A door is open"? Is that somehow more confusing to people than "ajar"?  To low-class?  Seriously, wtf.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree completely .
While I 'm not against a warning for the seat belt , I REALLY hate how it beeps for the seatbelt the MOMENT the ignition is turned .
Who buckles up all the way before turning the ignition ?
No -- like you , I turn it on , then while it 's starting , buckle up .
The only effect of this regulation is to require me to be irritated or go out of my way * every time * I turn the car on.Why the hell ca n't they allow car makers to delay the warning for five freaking seconds after ignition ?
Or until the car starts moving ?
Or until it exceeds 5 mph ? And on the verbal warnings , what ergonomics genius over-ruled the wording , " A door is open " ?
Is that somehow more confusing to people than " ajar " ?
To low-class ?
Seriously , wtf .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree completely.
While I'm not against a warning for the seat belt, I REALLY hate how it beeps for the seatbelt the MOMENT the ignition is turned.
Who buckles up all the way before turning the ignition?
No -- like you, I turn it on, then while it's starting, buckle up.
The only effect of this regulation is to require me to be irritated or go out of my way *every time* I turn the car on.Why the hell can't they allow car makers to delay the warning for five freaking seconds after ignition?
Or until the car starts moving?
Or until it exceeds 5 mph?And on the verbal warnings, what ergonomics genius over-ruled the wording, "A door is open"?
Is that somehow more confusing to people than "ajar"?
To low-class?
Seriously, wtf.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656766</id>
	<title>Re:What a waste of effort.</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1269875880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You may build any system, if it restricts users, it's annoying. It it's annoying users, people will get their way around it.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Help, hrlep I'm being oppressed! You're restricting my freedom to kill myself because I'm too lazy or retarded to do up my seatbelt.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You may build any system , if it restricts users , it 's annoying .
It it 's annoying users , people will get their way around it .
Help , hrlep I 'm being oppressed !
You 're restricting my freedom to kill myself because I 'm too lazy or retarded to do up my seatbelt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may build any system, if it restricts users, it's annoying.
It it's annoying users, people will get their way around it.
Help, hrlep I'm being oppressed!
You're restricting my freedom to kill myself because I'm too lazy or retarded to do up my seatbelt.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31665066</id>
	<title>"Will your car tell you to put down the phone?"</title>
	<author>shiftless</author>
	<datestamp>1269871800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. The first one that tries it will find itself under the knife to correct this defect, or if unable to do so, sold off and its manufacturer put on my shitlist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
The first one that tries it will find itself under the knife to correct this defect , or if unable to do so , sold off and its manufacturer put on my shitlist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
The first one that tries it will find itself under the knife to correct this defect, or if unable to do so, sold off and its manufacturer put on my shitlist.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31654338</id>
	<title>Slightly off topic</title>
	<author>Kupfernigk</author>
	<datestamp>1269853440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some years ago my company had a really obnoxious CEO. He had the interpersonal skills of a great white shark, so his preferred technique for shouting at people was to do it from his mobile phone while driving because then he didn't actually have to interact with them.<p>After one major display of crap management (leaving the annual budget till the night before he had to present it to the group CEO and then blaming the CFO when the numbers didn't add up) the CFO announced that he now intended to wait till there was a really heavy storm on the M42 and the CEO was driving through it, then call him and tell him exactly what he thought of him. This would surely result in his getting flattened by a truck.</p><p>Unfortunately we all got other jobs and left before the opportunity arose, but I still think it would be a legal way to wipe out very aggressive people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some years ago my company had a really obnoxious CEO .
He had the interpersonal skills of a great white shark , so his preferred technique for shouting at people was to do it from his mobile phone while driving because then he did n't actually have to interact with them.After one major display of crap management ( leaving the annual budget till the night before he had to present it to the group CEO and then blaming the CFO when the numbers did n't add up ) the CFO announced that he now intended to wait till there was a really heavy storm on the M42 and the CEO was driving through it , then call him and tell him exactly what he thought of him .
This would surely result in his getting flattened by a truck.Unfortunately we all got other jobs and left before the opportunity arose , but I still think it would be a legal way to wipe out very aggressive people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some years ago my company had a really obnoxious CEO.
He had the interpersonal skills of a great white shark, so his preferred technique for shouting at people was to do it from his mobile phone while driving because then he didn't actually have to interact with them.After one major display of crap management (leaving the annual budget till the night before he had to present it to the group CEO and then blaming the CFO when the numbers didn't add up) the CFO announced that he now intended to wait till there was a really heavy storm on the M42 and the CEO was driving through it, then call him and tell him exactly what he thought of him.
This would surely result in his getting flattened by a truck.Unfortunately we all got other jobs and left before the opportunity arose, but I still think it would be a legal way to wipe out very aggressive people.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31657174</id>
	<title>Speed limits and governors</title>
	<author>zero\_out</author>
	<datestamp>1269877740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since we're on the topic of bad driving behavior and using technology to solve it, I have another question.  If we're going to put sensors / software in our cellphones and in our cars to prevent cellphone usage while driving, why don't we put small transmitters on speed limit signs and sensors in cars to detect what the legal speed limit is?  That way, our cars can know what the speed limit is, and prevent us from driving faster than that.  I'm not advocating the idea, but I wonder why no legal body has tried to legislate it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since we 're on the topic of bad driving behavior and using technology to solve it , I have another question .
If we 're going to put sensors / software in our cellphones and in our cars to prevent cellphone usage while driving , why do n't we put small transmitters on speed limit signs and sensors in cars to detect what the legal speed limit is ?
That way , our cars can know what the speed limit is , and prevent us from driving faster than that .
I 'm not advocating the idea , but I wonder why no legal body has tried to legislate it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since we're on the topic of bad driving behavior and using technology to solve it, I have another question.
If we're going to put sensors / software in our cellphones and in our cars to prevent cellphone usage while driving, why don't we put small transmitters on speed limit signs and sensors in cars to detect what the legal speed limit is?
That way, our cars can know what the speed limit is, and prevent us from driving faster than that.
I'm not advocating the idea, but I wonder why no legal body has tried to legislate it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_29_020205.31656800</id>
	<title>Re:Pressure monitors in the steering wheel</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269876060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For crying out lod! All right, alright! I <b>will</b> take the automatic and autonomous  robotic driver accessory at double the price of the car! As long as it's mute! Add it in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For crying out lod !
All right , alright !
I will take the automatic and autonomous robotic driver accessory at double the price of the car !
As long as it 's mute !
Add it in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For crying out lod!
All right, alright!
I will take the automatic and autonomous  robotic driver accessory at double the price of the car!
As long as it's mute!
Add it in.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Pressure monitors in the steering wheel</title>
	<author>demonlapin</author>
	<datestamp>1269862680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let me guess: you've never driven 1000 miles in a day, have you?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me guess : you 've never driven 1000 miles in a day , have you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me guess: you've never driven 1000 miles in a day, have you?</sentencetext>
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