<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_25_1326257</id>
	<title>Will Your Answers To the Census Stay Private?</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1269528360000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hughpickens.com/" rel="nofollow">Hugh Pickens</a> writes <i>"James Bovard writes in the Christian Science Monitor  that Americans are told that information gathered in the census will never be used against them and the House of Representatives, in a Census Awareness Month resolution passed March 3, proclaimed that 'the data obtained from the census are protected under United States privacy laws.'  Unfortunately, thousands of <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0324/The-2010-Census-Will-your-answers-stay-private">Americans who trusted the Census Bureau in the past lost their freedom as a result</a>. In the 1940 Census, the Census Bureau loudly assured people that their responses would be kept confidential. Within four days of the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Census Bureau had produced a report listing the Japanese-American population in each county on the West Coast. The Census Bureau's report <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese\_American\_internment">helped the US Army round up more than 100,000 Japanese-Americans</a> for concentration camps (later renamed 'internment centers'). In 2003-04, the Census Bureau provided the Department of Homeland Security with a massive cache of information on <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/10/politics/10census.html">how many Arab Americans lived in each ZIP Code</a> around the nation, and which country they originated from &mdash; information that could have made it far easier to carry out the type of mass roundup that some conservatives advocated. 'Instead of viewing census critics as conspiracy theorists, the nation's political leaders should recognize how their policies have undermined public faith in government,' writes Bovard. 'All the census really needs to know is how many people live at each address. Citizens should refuse to answer any census question except for the number of residents.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hugh Pickens writes " James Bovard writes in the Christian Science Monitor that Americans are told that information gathered in the census will never be used against them and the House of Representatives , in a Census Awareness Month resolution passed March 3 , proclaimed that 'the data obtained from the census are protected under United States privacy laws .
' Unfortunately , thousands of Americans who trusted the Census Bureau in the past lost their freedom as a result .
In the 1940 Census , the Census Bureau loudly assured people that their responses would be kept confidential .
Within four days of the attack on Pearl Harbor , the Census Bureau had produced a report listing the Japanese-American population in each county on the West Coast .
The Census Bureau 's report helped the US Army round up more than 100,000 Japanese-Americans for concentration camps ( later renamed 'internment centers ' ) .
In 2003-04 , the Census Bureau provided the Department of Homeland Security with a massive cache of information on how many Arab Americans lived in each ZIP Code around the nation , and which country they originated from    information that could have made it far easier to carry out the type of mass roundup that some conservatives advocated .
'Instead of viewing census critics as conspiracy theorists , the nation 's political leaders should recognize how their policies have undermined public faith in government, ' writes Bovard .
'All the census really needs to know is how many people live at each address .
Citizens should refuse to answer any census question except for the number of residents .
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<sentencetext>Hugh Pickens writes "James Bovard writes in the Christian Science Monitor  that Americans are told that information gathered in the census will never be used against them and the House of Representatives, in a Census Awareness Month resolution passed March 3, proclaimed that 'the data obtained from the census are protected under United States privacy laws.
'  Unfortunately, thousands of Americans who trusted the Census Bureau in the past lost their freedom as a result.
In the 1940 Census, the Census Bureau loudly assured people that their responses would be kept confidential.
Within four days of the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Census Bureau had produced a report listing the Japanese-American population in each county on the West Coast.
The Census Bureau's report helped the US Army round up more than 100,000 Japanese-Americans for concentration camps (later renamed 'internment centers').
In 2003-04, the Census Bureau provided the Department of Homeland Security with a massive cache of information on how many Arab Americans lived in each ZIP Code around the nation, and which country they originated from — information that could have made it far easier to carry out the type of mass roundup that some conservatives advocated.
'Instead of viewing census critics as conspiracy theorists, the nation's political leaders should recognize how their policies have undermined public faith in government,' writes Bovard.
'All the census really needs to know is how many people live at each address.
Citizens should refuse to answer any census question except for the number of residents.
'"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611272</id>
	<title>Re:Only Box the Census Taker Will Check For Me is.</title>
	<author>K. S. Kyosuke</author>
	<datestamp>1269534360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[  x  ]  Gun Owner.</p><p>[  x  ]  Sharpshooter.</p></div><p>Fixed that for ya.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ x ] Gun Owner .
[ x ] Sharpshooter.Fixed that for ya .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[  x  ]  Gun Owner.
[  x  ]  Sharpshooter.Fixed that for ya.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31617002</id>
	<title>Re:Will census data stay private?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269509220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly. Not only that, but there are a lot of people that actually want to be counted and categorized (even at the expense of loss of privacy). For instance, it's not explicit, but this time it'll be possible to count how many homes are occupied by gay couples. Hopefully, this will show that there are many more than people usually think, to the benefit of the LGBT population.</p><p>Slashdotters often exaggerate with the protection of individual privacy. Come on, you're not that important for the rest of the world; we're an ant colony anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
Not only that , but there are a lot of people that actually want to be counted and categorized ( even at the expense of loss of privacy ) .
For instance , it 's not explicit , but this time it 'll be possible to count how many homes are occupied by gay couples .
Hopefully , this will show that there are many more than people usually think , to the benefit of the LGBT population.Slashdotters often exaggerate with the protection of individual privacy .
Come on , you 're not that important for the rest of the world ; we 're an ant colony anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
Not only that, but there are a lot of people that actually want to be counted and categorized (even at the expense of loss of privacy).
For instance, it's not explicit, but this time it'll be possible to count how many homes are occupied by gay couples.
Hopefully, this will show that there are many more than people usually think, to the benefit of the LGBT population.Slashdotters often exaggerate with the protection of individual privacy.
Come on, you're not that important for the rest of the world; we're an ant colony anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31616476</id>
	<title>Re:Sure it could happen...</title>
	<author>Sandbags</author>
	<datestamp>1269550740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The census today doesn't ask "nation of origin" or "religion"  it asks RACE.</p><p>I think the only race we care about at this point would be one you could link to terrorism, but that's not even a selection on the form, and the closest definition of that race includes about 1 billion people in 40 nations.</p><p>There's nothing in our census form that can not be plainly OBSERVED of you.  That data is useless to anyone other than the people who draw districting lines.  The long-form census of the 40s and 50s is gone, never to return.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The census today does n't ask " nation of origin " or " religion " it asks RACE.I think the only race we care about at this point would be one you could link to terrorism , but that 's not even a selection on the form , and the closest definition of that race includes about 1 billion people in 40 nations.There 's nothing in our census form that can not be plainly OBSERVED of you .
That data is useless to anyone other than the people who draw districting lines .
The long-form census of the 40s and 50s is gone , never to return .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The census today doesn't ask "nation of origin" or "religion"  it asks RACE.I think the only race we care about at this point would be one you could link to terrorism, but that's not even a selection on the form, and the closest definition of that race includes about 1 billion people in 40 nations.There's nothing in our census form that can not be plainly OBSERVED of you.
That data is useless to anyone other than the people who draw districting lines.
The long-form census of the 40s and 50s is gone, never to return.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611828</id>
	<title>Even if they wanted to...</title>
	<author>billsayswow</author>
	<datestamp>1269536040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even if they wanted to use the census data for a specific ethnic round-up, at least this helps make it relatively cleaner, rather then busting down door to door and having entire neighbourhoods line up in the streets for profiling. Really though, this is paranoia, nothing less. Of course, saying such things won't placate those people that buy into this. After all, what's worse? Being paranoid, or knowing that you should be? What this fails to account for is all the useful information culled from the census. Signed, 20-year-old white (British ancestry) male college student, working in food service, Atheist, votes either way, owns 1 car he drives a bit too quickly, enjoys alternative music, BBC News, wears no underwear, uses Old Spice deodorant, wears white socks. Let me know if anything else is needed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if they wanted to use the census data for a specific ethnic round-up , at least this helps make it relatively cleaner , rather then busting down door to door and having entire neighbourhoods line up in the streets for profiling .
Really though , this is paranoia , nothing less .
Of course , saying such things wo n't placate those people that buy into this .
After all , what 's worse ?
Being paranoid , or knowing that you should be ?
What this fails to account for is all the useful information culled from the census .
Signed , 20-year-old white ( British ancestry ) male college student , working in food service , Atheist , votes either way , owns 1 car he drives a bit too quickly , enjoys alternative music , BBC News , wears no underwear , uses Old Spice deodorant , wears white socks .
Let me know if anything else is needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if they wanted to use the census data for a specific ethnic round-up, at least this helps make it relatively cleaner, rather then busting down door to door and having entire neighbourhoods line up in the streets for profiling.
Really though, this is paranoia, nothing less.
Of course, saying such things won't placate those people that buy into this.
After all, what's worse?
Being paranoid, or knowing that you should be?
What this fails to account for is all the useful information culled from the census.
Signed, 20-year-old white (British ancestry) male college student, working in food service, Atheist, votes either way, owns 1 car he drives a bit too quickly, enjoys alternative music, BBC News, wears no underwear, uses Old Spice deodorant, wears white socks.
Let me know if anything else is needed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610656</id>
	<title>Christian Science Monitor?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, what a surprise, having the opposition resist anything the other party does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , what a surprise , having the opposition resist anything the other party does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, what a surprise, having the opposition resist anything the other party does.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611904</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo\_Bay\_detention\_camp" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Of course we have.</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course we have .
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course we have.
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610914</id>
	<title>Pity smitty likes to ruffle feathers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey submitter... next time do some research before you go spreading FUD.  The 1947 privacy sections of Title 13  was specifically enacted to prevent what happened in WWII. ( or to "close the back door" if you will ) .<br>Lets remember folks... plenty of Chinese people were interned as well in the Japanese camps. Doesn't make it right, but it shows that people are goingto be racist regardless of whether a database gives them the zip code or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey submitter... next time do some research before you go spreading FUD .
The 1947 privacy sections of Title 13 was specifically enacted to prevent what happened in WWII .
( or to " close the back door " if you will ) .Lets remember folks... plenty of Chinese people were interned as well in the Japanese camps .
Does n't make it right , but it shows that people are goingto be racist regardless of whether a database gives them the zip code or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey submitter... next time do some research before you go spreading FUD.
The 1947 privacy sections of Title 13  was specifically enacted to prevent what happened in WWII.
( or to "close the back door" if you will ) .Lets remember folks... plenty of Chinese people were interned as well in the Japanese camps.
Doesn't make it right, but it shows that people are goingto be racist regardless of whether a database gives them the zip code or not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31615152</id>
	<title>Re:Only Box the Census Taker Will Check For Me is.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269546240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least for the next census he will only have to ask the warden how many inmates are in that wing.  They will probably have better information then...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least for the next census he will only have to ask the warden how many inmates are in that wing .
They will probably have better information then.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least for the next census he will only have to ask the warden how many inmates are in that wing.
They will probably have better information then...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610652</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31630926</id>
	<title>Re:Sometimes your census data is used for good...</title>
	<author>quincunx55555</author>
	<datestamp>1269635040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been waiting for a post like this.  The Census Bureau says that all of our census data is kept secure.  Yet you, and others, have access to it.  Anyone doubts of fraud being committed by the Census Bureau now?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been waiting for a post like this .
The Census Bureau says that all of our census data is kept secure .
Yet you , and others , have access to it .
Anyone doubts of fraud being committed by the Census Bureau now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been waiting for a post like this.
The Census Bureau says that all of our census data is kept secure.
Yet you, and others, have access to it.
Anyone doubts of fraud being committed by the Census Bureau now?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610934</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614376</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1269543720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only has the bear not been seen, the automatic defense system has never been activated.  Not once.</p><p>Paranoia and FUD are poor reasons to keep doing something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only has the bear not been seen , the automatic defense system has never been activated .
Not once.Paranoia and FUD are poor reasons to keep doing something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only has the bear not been seen, the automatic defense system has never been activated.
Not once.Paranoia and FUD are poor reasons to keep doing something.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611998</id>
	<title>Re:True but ignores later laws</title>
	<author>swillden</author>
	<datestamp>1269536520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But the thing about America is that we FIX problems when we realize that we made a mistake.</p></div><p>Unless we decide to break them again.

</p><p>The thing about legislative security controls is that all that's required to defeat them is another bill.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But the thing about America is that we FIX problems when we realize that we made a mistake.Unless we decide to break them again .
The thing about legislative security controls is that all that 's required to defeat them is another bill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But the thing about America is that we FIX problems when we realize that we made a mistake.Unless we decide to break them again.
The thing about legislative security controls is that all that's required to defeat them is another bill.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614694</id>
	<title>Re:Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1269544860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And how would they go about doing that? Most Arabs I know just check 'white' on the Census form.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And how would they go about doing that ?
Most Arabs I know just check 'white ' on the Census form .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And how would they go about doing that?
Most Arabs I know just check 'white' on the Census form.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613476</id>
	<title>Re:Will census data stay private?</title>
	<author>fulldecent</author>
	<datestamp>1269541080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt; The real question is, does it matter? Ok, so census data is kept secure. What about every other form you've filled out that asks the same questions, or similar questions. Or just plain ol Google datamining?</p><p>&gt;&gt; What difference does it make if this data over here is locked up tight when this same data over here is plastered all over the interwebs?</p><p>Because a database becomes exponentially more useful when it is linked to other things.</p><p>For example, on a recent blog post an American talks about buying products online and how much they paid - they didn't mention anything about paying the state use tax for that purchase. That's public info. Having the same info in that person's state revenue department database is a LOT worse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; The real question is , does it matter ?
Ok , so census data is kept secure .
What about every other form you 've filled out that asks the same questions , or similar questions .
Or just plain ol Google datamining ? &gt; &gt; What difference does it make if this data over here is locked up tight when this same data over here is plastered all over the interwebs ? Because a database becomes exponentially more useful when it is linked to other things.For example , on a recent blog post an American talks about buying products online and how much they paid - they did n't mention anything about paying the state use tax for that purchase .
That 's public info .
Having the same info in that person 's state revenue department database is a LOT worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; The real question is, does it matter?
Ok, so census data is kept secure.
What about every other form you've filled out that asks the same questions, or similar questions.
Or just plain ol Google datamining?&gt;&gt; What difference does it make if this data over here is locked up tight when this same data over here is plastered all over the interwebs?Because a database becomes exponentially more useful when it is linked to other things.For example, on a recent blog post an American talks about buying products online and how much they paid - they didn't mention anything about paying the state use tax for that purchase.
That's public info.
Having the same info in that person's state revenue department database is a LOT worse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611360</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1269534600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>whatever is closest to your skin color (African-American/Negro (yes that's one of the options on there) for anyone not-white and not-native american)</p></div><p>Ok, I've always wondered. What if you are black, and didn't come from Africa? Do you lie and say you came from Africa, or do you tell the truch and pick some other option?</p></div>
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<tokenext>whatever is closest to your skin color ( African-American/Negro ( yes that 's one of the options on there ) for anyone not-white and not-native american ) Ok , I 've always wondered .
What if you are black , and did n't come from Africa ?
Do you lie and say you came from Africa , or do you tell the truch and pick some other option ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>whatever is closest to your skin color (African-American/Negro (yes that's one of the options on there) for anyone not-white and not-native american)Ok, I've always wondered.
What if you are black, and didn't come from Africa?
Do you lie and say you came from Africa, or do you tell the truch and pick some other option?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613462</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269541080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>... yet I consider myself part of one of the races on the list....</p></div><p>That's odd.  I only saw cultural, ethnic and social classifications.  Nothing based on genetics at all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... yet I consider myself part of one of the races on the list....That 's odd .
I only saw cultural , ethnic and social classifications .
Nothing based on genetics at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... yet I consider myself part of one of the races on the list....That's odd.
I only saw cultural, ethnic and social classifications.
Nothing based on genetics at all.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31616428</id>
	<title>Re:Will census data stay private?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269550620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Theoretically, the difference is that I can choose to fill out those other forms or not and decide what information I am giving and to whom.  The US Census is required, though.  Well, technically, I suppose you can choose to be fined or go to jail.  Of course, there is ONE question that IS legally and constitutionally required and very important: How many people are living at that address.  This determines the makeup of the house of representatives and asking that every 10 years is an important part of our constitution.  It's just all the other questions that are BS.</p><p>Of course, in the grand scheme of things, there are a lot of more important things to worry about and fight over.  As for myself, I just answered the asked questions and sent it in, but I respect those who choose to only answer how many people live there and refuse to answer anything of the other questions even knowing it may mean jailtime/fines for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Theoretically , the difference is that I can choose to fill out those other forms or not and decide what information I am giving and to whom .
The US Census is required , though .
Well , technically , I suppose you can choose to be fined or go to jail .
Of course , there is ONE question that IS legally and constitutionally required and very important : How many people are living at that address .
This determines the makeup of the house of representatives and asking that every 10 years is an important part of our constitution .
It 's just all the other questions that are BS.Of course , in the grand scheme of things , there are a lot of more important things to worry about and fight over .
As for myself , I just answered the asked questions and sent it in , but I respect those who choose to only answer how many people live there and refuse to answer anything of the other questions even knowing it may mean jailtime/fines for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Theoretically, the difference is that I can choose to fill out those other forms or not and decide what information I am giving and to whom.
The US Census is required, though.
Well, technically, I suppose you can choose to be fined or go to jail.
Of course, there is ONE question that IS legally and constitutionally required and very important: How many people are living at that address.
This determines the makeup of the house of representatives and asking that every 10 years is an important part of our constitution.
It's just all the other questions that are BS.Of course, in the grand scheme of things, there are a lot of more important things to worry about and fight over.
As for myself, I just answered the asked questions and sent it in, but I respect those who choose to only answer how many people live there and refuse to answer anything of the other questions even knowing it may mean jailtime/fines for them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611398</id>
	<title>Re:Census Info Ultimately Becomes Public</title>
	<author>LordKazan</author>
	<datestamp>1269534720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're also not a reactionary douchebag who doesn't like that there is a mean black man in the white house who wants to spend money taking care of our own people instead of bombing the middle east.</p><p>You don't put your political team and your insanity before the good of your country and those who live in it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're also not a reactionary douchebag who does n't like that there is a mean black man in the white house who wants to spend money taking care of our own people instead of bombing the middle east.You do n't put your political team and your insanity before the good of your country and those who live in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're also not a reactionary douchebag who doesn't like that there is a mean black man in the white house who wants to spend money taking care of our own people instead of bombing the middle east.You don't put your political team and your insanity before the good of your country and those who live in it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31619812</id>
	<title>Re:Compare and contrast these "concentration camps</title>
	<author>snowgirl</author>
	<datestamp>1269522120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Compare and contrast these "concentration camps" with the Nazi version of "concentration camps".</p><p>Germans were soundly rounded up as well.  I think the Italians got a free ride in WWII, and God only knows where the Irish were sent.  Dubuque, I heard.</p></div><p>(Numbers are approximate.)</p><p>Japanese-Americans interned up: 110,000<br>German-Americans interned: 11,000<br>Italian-Americans interned: somewhere between 200~400</p><p>So, there were only 1:10 Germans per Japanese "rounded up", but then Germans certainly exceeded 100:1 or 1,000:1 to Japanese... this idea that they were "<em>soundly</em> rounded up" is kind of inaccurate.  If one were Japanese-American, one were much more likely to be interned.  Likely, if one were a German-American (like my grandfather's family, which were 100\% German) one were most likely not to be interned at all... or even particularly hassled.</p><p>This all being said, I'm 25\% pure German blood, speak German fluently, and would rather be a German citizen than an American citizen most of the time.  I would likely be one of those Germans rounded up at the time...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Compare and contrast these " concentration camps " with the Nazi version of " concentration camps " .Germans were soundly rounded up as well .
I think the Italians got a free ride in WWII , and God only knows where the Irish were sent .
Dubuque , I heard .
( Numbers are approximate .
) Japanese-Americans interned up : 110,000German-Americans interned : 11,000Italian-Americans interned : somewhere between 200 ~ 400So , there were only 1 : 10 Germans per Japanese " rounded up " , but then Germans certainly exceeded 100 : 1 or 1,000 : 1 to Japanese... this idea that they were " soundly rounded up " is kind of inaccurate .
If one were Japanese-American , one were much more likely to be interned .
Likely , if one were a German-American ( like my grandfather 's family , which were 100 \ % German ) one were most likely not to be interned at all... or even particularly hassled.This all being said , I 'm 25 \ % pure German blood , speak German fluently , and would rather be a German citizen than an American citizen most of the time .
I would likely be one of those Germans rounded up at the time.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Compare and contrast these "concentration camps" with the Nazi version of "concentration camps".Germans were soundly rounded up as well.
I think the Italians got a free ride in WWII, and God only knows where the Irish were sent.
Dubuque, I heard.
(Numbers are approximate.
)Japanese-Americans interned up: 110,000German-Americans interned: 11,000Italian-Americans interned: somewhere between 200~400So, there were only 1:10 Germans per Japanese "rounded up", but then Germans certainly exceeded 100:1 or 1,000:1 to Japanese... this idea that they were "soundly rounded up" is kind of inaccurate.
If one were Japanese-American, one were much more likely to be interned.
Likely, if one were a German-American (like my grandfather's family, which were 100\% German) one were most likely not to be interned at all... or even particularly hassled.This all being said, I'm 25\% pure German blood, speak German fluently, and would rather be a German citizen than an American citizen most of the time.
I would likely be one of those Germans rounded up at the time...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611222</id>
	<title>As an aside</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As an aside, I answered the census last week and I was shocked and appalled that it did not even ask whether the people living at my address are U.S. citizens.  How the hell can they determine Congressional representation if they don't even ask who needs to be represented and who doesn't?

(And lest my sentiments be misconstrued, I'm not a nativist. I think anyone should be able to come to the U.S. and speak whatever languages they want and work for whoever will hire them.  When it comes to determining the relative allocation of representation in the House of Representatives, I just think all non-citizens should be counted out.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>As an aside , I answered the census last week and I was shocked and appalled that it did not even ask whether the people living at my address are U.S. citizens. How the hell can they determine Congressional representation if they do n't even ask who needs to be represented and who does n't ?
( And lest my sentiments be misconstrued , I 'm not a nativist .
I think anyone should be able to come to the U.S. and speak whatever languages they want and work for whoever will hire them .
When it comes to determining the relative allocation of representation in the House of Representatives , I just think all non-citizens should be counted out .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an aside, I answered the census last week and I was shocked and appalled that it did not even ask whether the people living at my address are U.S. citizens.  How the hell can they determine Congressional representation if they don't even ask who needs to be represented and who doesn't?
(And lest my sentiments be misconstrued, I'm not a nativist.
I think anyone should be able to come to the U.S. and speak whatever languages they want and work for whoever will hire them.
When it comes to determining the relative allocation of representation in the House of Representatives, I just think all non-citizens should be counted out.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612098</id>
	<title>Re:Only Box the Census Taker Will Check For Me is.</title>
	<author>eln</author>
	<datestamp>1269536820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suppose if pointing a weapon at some poor low-paid schlub who's just trying to do his job makes you feel like a big man, go for it.  Census takers are not the enemy, even if you have some problem with the census (even though it's one of the clearly stated responsibilities of government in the Constitution).  Especially in this economy, your census taker could be anyone, including your next door neighbor.  Lots of people are out of work looking for a job, and the census is hiring...don't take out your problems with the federal government on the working stiffs who just want to feed their families.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose if pointing a weapon at some poor low-paid schlub who 's just trying to do his job makes you feel like a big man , go for it .
Census takers are not the enemy , even if you have some problem with the census ( even though it 's one of the clearly stated responsibilities of government in the Constitution ) .
Especially in this economy , your census taker could be anyone , including your next door neighbor .
Lots of people are out of work looking for a job , and the census is hiring...do n't take out your problems with the federal government on the working stiffs who just want to feed their families .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose if pointing a weapon at some poor low-paid schlub who's just trying to do his job makes you feel like a big man, go for it.
Census takers are not the enemy, even if you have some problem with the census (even though it's one of the clearly stated responsibilities of government in the Constitution).
Especially in this economy, your census taker could be anyone, including your next door neighbor.
Lots of people are out of work looking for a job, and the census is hiring...don't take out your problems with the federal government on the working stiffs who just want to feed their families.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612028</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1269536640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even a broken clock is right twice a day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even a broken clock is right twice a day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even a broken clock is right twice a day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610990</id>
	<title>Re:Aggregate data = No privacy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check the other box and write in "American" race shouldn't matter at all these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check the other box and write in " American " race should n't matter at all these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check the other box and write in "American" race shouldn't matter at all these days.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612388</id>
	<title>Paranoid Git.</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1269537660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't 60 years ago. If we didn't round up all middle Eastern Descent person after 9/11, where not going to open up interment camps again.</p><p>As if people wouldn't have recognized someone with Japanese descent just by looking at them~</p><p>Census is a good and necessary thing.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't 60 years ago .
If we did n't round up all middle Eastern Descent person after 9/11 , where not going to open up interment camps again.As if people would n't have recognized someone with Japanese descent just by looking at them ~ Census is a good and necessary thing .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't 60 years ago.
If we didn't round up all middle Eastern Descent person after 9/11, where not going to open up interment camps again.As if people wouldn't have recognized someone with Japanese descent just by looking at them~Census is a good and necessary thing.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612014</id>
	<title>This should not be an Issue</title>
	<author>Reber Is Reber</author>
	<datestamp>1269536580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>US Law only requires that you enter the amount of people living at your residence.  The census does NOT require you to enter anything beyond that.  If you are dumb enough to enter your phone number, race or anything else and expect it not to be used against you in some way, then it is your own fault.  Seriously, it's like signing up for a website online - they may ask you to enter personal information even though it is not required.  You don't see me complaining about those websites asking for my phone number (or anything else that is personal,) and then getting mad when they call me. I deserve the invasion of privacy because I was stupid enough to provide them with my number in the first place.  Instead I just don't enter my phone number.  Most of the time they don't required that field in the first place; if it is required I would either make it up, or just not sign up.<br> <br>

People that think the government is not going to use this information in some manner are living in a hole.  It's the government this is what they do, move on and stop being so naive and think before you blindly fill out anything, because trust me, it is going to be saved and sometime down the road it may, this is not me saying it will happen, but it MAY be used against you.<br> <br>

Be smart, enter the amount of people living at your place, and mail in your census. Problem solved.</htmltext>
<tokenext>US Law only requires that you enter the amount of people living at your residence .
The census does NOT require you to enter anything beyond that .
If you are dumb enough to enter your phone number , race or anything else and expect it not to be used against you in some way , then it is your own fault .
Seriously , it 's like signing up for a website online - they may ask you to enter personal information even though it is not required .
You do n't see me complaining about those websites asking for my phone number ( or anything else that is personal , ) and then getting mad when they call me .
I deserve the invasion of privacy because I was stupid enough to provide them with my number in the first place .
Instead I just do n't enter my phone number .
Most of the time they do n't required that field in the first place ; if it is required I would either make it up , or just not sign up .
People that think the government is not going to use this information in some manner are living in a hole .
It 's the government this is what they do , move on and stop being so naive and think before you blindly fill out anything , because trust me , it is going to be saved and sometime down the road it may , this is not me saying it will happen , but it MAY be used against you .
Be smart , enter the amount of people living at your place , and mail in your census .
Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>US Law only requires that you enter the amount of people living at your residence.
The census does NOT require you to enter anything beyond that.
If you are dumb enough to enter your phone number, race or anything else and expect it not to be used against you in some way, then it is your own fault.
Seriously, it's like signing up for a website online - they may ask you to enter personal information even though it is not required.
You don't see me complaining about those websites asking for my phone number (or anything else that is personal,) and then getting mad when they call me.
I deserve the invasion of privacy because I was stupid enough to provide them with my number in the first place.
Instead I just don't enter my phone number.
Most of the time they don't required that field in the first place; if it is required I would either make it up, or just not sign up.
People that think the government is not going to use this information in some manner are living in a hole.
It's the government this is what they do, move on and stop being so naive and think before you blindly fill out anything, because trust me, it is going to be saved and sometime down the road it may, this is not me saying it will happen, but it MAY be used against you.
Be smart, enter the amount of people living at your place, and mail in your census.
Problem solved.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611768</id>
	<title>Re:Will census data stay private?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269535920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What difference does it make if this data over here is locked up tight when this same data over here is plastered all over the interwebs?</p></div><p>Exactly!</p><p>Every time I sell something on Craigslist, I google the e-mail address of whoever I'm meeting.  The vast majority of the time (probably &gt;90\%) I can get his name and address and phone number, and from those I can find his family members, employees, friends.  Often photographs.  I can find out how much he bought his home for, or what he pays in rent... whether or not his home has de-valued in the slump.  The data mining companies would gladly sell me his salary information, and whatever else they have managed to collect.  I can usually find his age, where he's from, what college he went to...</p><p>This information is all readily available publicly on the Internet and indexed by Google for most people on Craigslist, and a significant percentage of all people.  I can do the exact same thing for myself, too.</p><p>Why would I fear the Census?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What difference does it make if this data over here is locked up tight when this same data over here is plastered all over the interwebs ? Exactly ! Every time I sell something on Craigslist , I google the e-mail address of whoever I 'm meeting .
The vast majority of the time ( probably &gt; 90 \ % ) I can get his name and address and phone number , and from those I can find his family members , employees , friends .
Often photographs .
I can find out how much he bought his home for , or what he pays in rent... whether or not his home has de-valued in the slump .
The data mining companies would gladly sell me his salary information , and whatever else they have managed to collect .
I can usually find his age , where he 's from , what college he went to...This information is all readily available publicly on the Internet and indexed by Google for most people on Craigslist , and a significant percentage of all people .
I can do the exact same thing for myself , too.Why would I fear the Census ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What difference does it make if this data over here is locked up tight when this same data over here is plastered all over the interwebs?Exactly!Every time I sell something on Craigslist, I google the e-mail address of whoever I'm meeting.
The vast majority of the time (probably &gt;90\%) I can get his name and address and phone number, and from those I can find his family members, employees, friends.
Often photographs.
I can find out how much he bought his home for, or what he pays in rent... whether or not his home has de-valued in the slump.
The data mining companies would gladly sell me his salary information, and whatever else they have managed to collect.
I can usually find his age, where he's from, what college he went to...This information is all readily available publicly on the Internet and indexed by Google for most people on Craigslist, and a significant percentage of all people.
I can do the exact same thing for myself, too.Why would I fear the Census?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614976</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>tmosley</author>
	<datestamp>1269545640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The lessons were learned, and promptly forgotten.<br> <br>

Ever hear of a little concentration camp called Guantanamo?  There are a lot of innocent people being held there.  One you may or may not have heard about is the Bargram Air Base concentration camp, where torture is STILL IN ACTIVE USE.<br> <br>

Despite what you have been told by your public schoolteachers, the government is NOT your friend.  That is, unless you are one of the few with "pull" in the inner circle, in which case you are above the law.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The lessons were learned , and promptly forgotten .
Ever hear of a little concentration camp called Guantanamo ?
There are a lot of innocent people being held there .
One you may or may not have heard about is the Bargram Air Base concentration camp , where torture is STILL IN ACTIVE USE .
Despite what you have been told by your public schoolteachers , the government is NOT your friend .
That is , unless you are one of the few with " pull " in the inner circle , in which case you are above the law .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The lessons were learned, and promptly forgotten.
Ever hear of a little concentration camp called Guantanamo?
There are a lot of innocent people being held there.
One you may or may not have heard about is the Bargram Air Base concentration camp, where torture is STILL IN ACTIVE USE.
Despite what you have been told by your public schoolteachers, the government is NOT your friend.
That is, unless you are one of the few with "pull" in the inner circle, in which case you are above the law.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610868</id>
	<title>True but ignores later laws</title>
	<author>gurps\_npc</author>
	<datestamp>1269533040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is true that during WWII, the US government abused Census information to detain Japanese.
<p>But the thing about America is that we FIX problems when we realize that we made a mistake.
</p><p>After World War II, American realized what a horrible thing we did with the Census and we changed the laws.
</p><p>Now, it is illegal for information from the Census to be given to any other government agency.  Specifically:
</p><p>Immigration is NOT allowed to get the information.
</p><p>The Internal Revenue Service is NOT allowed to get the information.
</p><p>FBI and local cops are NOT allowed to get the information.
</p><p>I myself am always a bit paranoid about giving out information, but the promisses the US government has given are about as extreme as it is possible to get.   It is true that governments can ignore their own laws.   But if you won't trust the US government after it wewnt that far to fix the problem you are worried about, then you should leave this country.
</p><p>Because if you are concerned about them rounding you up in the future after they change the laws, then you should be more concerned about them rounding you up TODAY for failing to obey the existing laws</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is true that during WWII , the US government abused Census information to detain Japanese .
But the thing about America is that we FIX problems when we realize that we made a mistake .
After World War II , American realized what a horrible thing we did with the Census and we changed the laws .
Now , it is illegal for information from the Census to be given to any other government agency .
Specifically : Immigration is NOT allowed to get the information .
The Internal Revenue Service is NOT allowed to get the information .
FBI and local cops are NOT allowed to get the information .
I myself am always a bit paranoid about giving out information , but the promisses the US government has given are about as extreme as it is possible to get .
It is true that governments can ignore their own laws .
But if you wo n't trust the US government after it wewnt that far to fix the problem you are worried about , then you should leave this country .
Because if you are concerned about them rounding you up in the future after they change the laws , then you should be more concerned about them rounding you up TODAY for failing to obey the existing laws</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is true that during WWII, the US government abused Census information to detain Japanese.
But the thing about America is that we FIX problems when we realize that we made a mistake.
After World War II, American realized what a horrible thing we did with the Census and we changed the laws.
Now, it is illegal for information from the Census to be given to any other government agency.
Specifically:
Immigration is NOT allowed to get the information.
The Internal Revenue Service is NOT allowed to get the information.
FBI and local cops are NOT allowed to get the information.
I myself am always a bit paranoid about giving out information, but the promisses the US government has given are about as extreme as it is possible to get.
It is true that governments can ignore their own laws.
But if you won't trust the US government after it wewnt that far to fix the problem you are worried about, then you should leave this country.
Because if you are concerned about them rounding you up in the future after they change the laws, then you should be more concerned about them rounding you up TODAY for failing to obey the existing laws</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613862</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>vxice</author>
	<datestamp>1269542220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>so in other words move along folks nothing to see here trust us weve gots learned trusts in me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>so in other words move along folks nothing to see here trust us weve gots learned trusts in me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so in other words move along folks nothing to see here trust us weve gots learned trusts in me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610682</id>
	<title>Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps in 1790 that's all the census needed to know (that and how may slaves you owned), but it's a far different situation now. Socioeconomic and ethnic data is important in determining the types of services various areas need and plays an important part in know just who an "American" really is.

As an aside, the census had nothing to do with the Japanese internment during WWII. At most it made calculating the number of Japanese-Americans easier, allowing the round up to be more accurate. Maybe. Given how easy it is to separate people by obvious ethnic ancestry, the round up would have occurred any way. Besides which, it's not as if either of scenarios mentioned in the OP actually provided anything more than numbers. They didn't provide addresses, names, or any actual personal information. Merely the number who marked a certain ethnicity in a certain county.

So yes, these people are still just paranoid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps in 1790 that 's all the census needed to know ( that and how may slaves you owned ) , but it 's a far different situation now .
Socioeconomic and ethnic data is important in determining the types of services various areas need and plays an important part in know just who an " American " really is .
As an aside , the census had nothing to do with the Japanese internment during WWII .
At most it made calculating the number of Japanese-Americans easier , allowing the round up to be more accurate .
Maybe. Given how easy it is to separate people by obvious ethnic ancestry , the round up would have occurred any way .
Besides which , it 's not as if either of scenarios mentioned in the OP actually provided anything more than numbers .
They did n't provide addresses , names , or any actual personal information .
Merely the number who marked a certain ethnicity in a certain county .
So yes , these people are still just paranoid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps in 1790 that's all the census needed to know (that and how may slaves you owned), but it's a far different situation now.
Socioeconomic and ethnic data is important in determining the types of services various areas need and plays an important part in know just who an "American" really is.
As an aside, the census had nothing to do with the Japanese internment during WWII.
At most it made calculating the number of Japanese-Americans easier, allowing the round up to be more accurate.
Maybe. Given how easy it is to separate people by obvious ethnic ancestry, the round up would have occurred any way.
Besides which, it's not as if either of scenarios mentioned in the OP actually provided anything more than numbers.
They didn't provide addresses, names, or any actual personal information.
Merely the number who marked a certain ethnicity in a certain county.
So yes, these people are still just paranoid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610854</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait until you receive the follow-up American Community Survey, which you are also obligated to fill out. That's the one with the intrusive questions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait until you receive the follow-up American Community Survey , which you are also obligated to fill out .
That 's the one with the intrusive questions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait until you receive the follow-up American Community Survey, which you are also obligated to fill out.
That's the one with the intrusive questions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610632</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611014</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>Kazymyr</author>
	<datestamp>1269533520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA:<br><i>In 2007, a study by those researchers, William Seltzer of Fordham University and Margo Anderson of the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, proved that the Census Bureau gave the Secret Service the names and addresses of all persons of Japanese ancestry in the Washington, D.C., area during World War II. The bureau responded by insisting that this was ancient history. While the disclosure may have been dated, the bureau's deceit lasted for more than 60 years and undermines its credibility. And we do not know how many other census confidentiality violations have yet to surface.</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : In 2007 , a study by those researchers , William Seltzer of Fordham University and Margo Anderson of the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee , proved that the Census Bureau gave the Secret Service the names and addresses of all persons of Japanese ancestry in the Washington , D.C. , area during World War II .
The bureau responded by insisting that this was ancient history .
While the disclosure may have been dated , the bureau 's deceit lasted for more than 60 years and undermines its credibility .
And we do not know how many other census confidentiality violations have yet to surface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:In 2007, a study by those researchers, William Seltzer of Fordham University and Margo Anderson of the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, proved that the Census Bureau gave the Secret Service the names and addresses of all persons of Japanese ancestry in the Washington, D.C., area during World War II.
The bureau responded by insisting that this was ancient history.
While the disclosure may have been dated, the bureau's deceit lasted for more than 60 years and undermines its credibility.
And we do not know how many other census confidentiality violations have yet to surface.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611000</id>
	<title>Sounds like aggregated data, not individual</title>
	<author>Dr.Dubious DDQ</author>
	<datestamp>1269533520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not entirely clear, but the wording makes it sound like they got a listing of "this many 'Arabic-Americans' in THIS zip code, this many in THAT zip code" (etc.) rather than "Joe al-Schmoe at 123 ProfileMe Lane is one of THEM!".

Not really much different than is available to the public from the census bureau, is it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not entirely clear , but the wording makes it sound like they got a listing of " this many 'Arabic-Americans ' in THIS zip code , this many in THAT zip code " ( etc .
) rather than " Joe al-Schmoe at 123 ProfileMe Lane is one of THEM ! " .
Not really much different than is available to the public from the census bureau , is it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not entirely clear, but the wording makes it sound like they got a listing of "this many 'Arabic-Americans' in THIS zip code, this many in THAT zip code" (etc.
) rather than "Joe al-Schmoe at 123 ProfileMe Lane is one of THEM!".
Not really much different than is available to the public from the census bureau, is it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611762</id>
	<title>Is this posted by the same Hugh Pickens...</title>
	<author>kgo</author>
	<datestamp>1269535860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that lives with his wife in Ponca City, Oklahoma?  The one who has a degree in physics?  The one who spent several years in Peru working for the Peace Corps?  The one who planned to go to Mongolia (aka Red China) in 2009?</p><p><a href="http://www.peacecorpswiki.org/Hugh\_Pickens" title="peacecorpswiki.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.peacecorpswiki.org/Hugh\_Pickens</a> [peacecorpswiki.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that lives with his wife in Ponca City , Oklahoma ?
The one who has a degree in physics ?
The one who spent several years in Peru working for the Peace Corps ?
The one who planned to go to Mongolia ( aka Red China ) in 2009 ? http : //www.peacecorpswiki.org/Hugh \ _Pickens [ peacecorpswiki.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that lives with his wife in Ponca City, Oklahoma?
The one who has a degree in physics?
The one who spent several years in Peru working for the Peace Corps?
The one who planned to go to Mongolia (aka Red China) in 2009?http://www.peacecorpswiki.org/Hugh\_Pickens [peacecorpswiki.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610692</id>
	<title>Private or "bad"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hold on. There are two different things here: whether the data will be kept private, and whether the data will ever be used to do "bad" things.<br> <br>

The headline brings up the question of whether privacy will be breached: i.e. whether the census data could ever be de-anonymized and used to identify specific people's answers. This would be a very bad thing, contrary to the ethos of the census.<br> <br>

However, the examples actually given in the summary are cases where the census was just doing what a census does: delivering anonymized demographic data. Specifying how many people of a particular race (or gender, or income level, etc.) live in a particular area is just data. That data can of course be used for either good (addressing social inequality, correctly distributing resources, etc.) or for evil (internment camps). But the fact that data can be used for evil is nothing new. The solution is not to distrust the census, but rather to stop the people who are promoting hateful options and politicians pushing for evil legislation.<br> <br>

I'm not saying that we have to trust the census people, necessarily. If the data is continually doing more harm than good, then we should oppose its collection. But I don't think that you can point to a few examples of data being used in evil ways (or potentially evil ways) and therefore conclude that the entire enterprise of data collection is suspect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hold on .
There are two different things here : whether the data will be kept private , and whether the data will ever be used to do " bad " things .
The headline brings up the question of whether privacy will be breached : i.e .
whether the census data could ever be de-anonymized and used to identify specific people 's answers .
This would be a very bad thing , contrary to the ethos of the census .
However , the examples actually given in the summary are cases where the census was just doing what a census does : delivering anonymized demographic data .
Specifying how many people of a particular race ( or gender , or income level , etc .
) live in a particular area is just data .
That data can of course be used for either good ( addressing social inequality , correctly distributing resources , etc .
) or for evil ( internment camps ) .
But the fact that data can be used for evil is nothing new .
The solution is not to distrust the census , but rather to stop the people who are promoting hateful options and politicians pushing for evil legislation .
I 'm not saying that we have to trust the census people , necessarily .
If the data is continually doing more harm than good , then we should oppose its collection .
But I do n't think that you can point to a few examples of data being used in evil ways ( or potentially evil ways ) and therefore conclude that the entire enterprise of data collection is suspect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hold on.
There are two different things here: whether the data will be kept private, and whether the data will ever be used to do "bad" things.
The headline brings up the question of whether privacy will be breached: i.e.
whether the census data could ever be de-anonymized and used to identify specific people's answers.
This would be a very bad thing, contrary to the ethos of the census.
However, the examples actually given in the summary are cases where the census was just doing what a census does: delivering anonymized demographic data.
Specifying how many people of a particular race (or gender, or income level, etc.
) live in a particular area is just data.
That data can of course be used for either good (addressing social inequality, correctly distributing resources, etc.
) or for evil (internment camps).
But the fact that data can be used for evil is nothing new.
The solution is not to distrust the census, but rather to stop the people who are promoting hateful options and politicians pushing for evil legislation.
I'm not saying that we have to trust the census people, necessarily.
If the data is continually doing more harm than good, then we should oppose its collection.
But I don't think that you can point to a few examples of data being used in evil ways (or potentially evil ways) and therefore conclude that the entire enterprise of data collection is suspect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610774</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I'm white, but i'll see myself as Hispanic or african-american and record that on the census then, recognize a lower income etc, and anon encourage all the people living in my state to do the same.
</p><p>
That way we'll get more funding right?
Since there will be more "lower income" families in the area, and they'll all be minorities (on paper).
</p><p>
Not that i'm about to do it... but just a thought....
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm white , but i 'll see myself as Hispanic or african-american and record that on the census then , recognize a lower income etc , and anon encourage all the people living in my state to do the same .
That way we 'll get more funding right ?
Since there will be more " lower income " families in the area , and they 'll all be minorities ( on paper ) .
Not that i 'm about to do it... but just a thought... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I'm white, but i'll see myself as Hispanic or african-american and record that on the census then, recognize a lower income etc, and anon encourage all the people living in my state to do the same.
That way we'll get more funding right?
Since there will be more "lower income" families in the area, and they'll all be minorities (on paper).
Not that i'm about to do it... but just a thought....
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613390</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269540900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>how can they govern effectively?</p></div><p>Shouldn't that be to game the system for personal benefit and acquire funding for pet projects which typically benefit only a small subset of the most vocal, yet ultimately insignificant, constituents?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>how can they govern effectively ? Should n't that be to game the system for personal benefit and acquire funding for pet projects which typically benefit only a small subset of the most vocal , yet ultimately insignificant , constituents ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how can they govern effectively?Shouldn't that be to game the system for personal benefit and acquire funding for pet projects which typically benefit only a small subset of the most vocal, yet ultimately insignificant, constituents?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610748</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31619764</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy Act of 1974</title>
	<author>celle</author>
	<datestamp>1269521940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now if they could put the social security number genie back in the bottle. It actually was written in the law not to use it for anything else, we all know how well that worked out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now if they could put the social security number genie back in the bottle .
It actually was written in the law not to use it for anything else , we all know how well that worked out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now if they could put the social security number genie back in the bottle.
It actually was written in the law not to use it for anything else, we all know how well that worked out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611320</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613358</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269540780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last time I checked Nielsen can't tax me or throw me in jail for non-compliance with the regulatory state.</p><p>The excess data (specifically race) is primarily used to gerrymander voting districts and guarantee the congressional incumbent a re-election.</p><p>As someone who thinks both major parties suck, I have a serious problem with this type of meddling in the electoral system. While I'm on a roll, let's get rid of the FEC as well, it's only purpose is to further the two-party system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last time I checked Nielsen ca n't tax me or throw me in jail for non-compliance with the regulatory state.The excess data ( specifically race ) is primarily used to gerrymander voting districts and guarantee the congressional incumbent a re-election.As someone who thinks both major parties suck , I have a serious problem with this type of meddling in the electoral system .
While I 'm on a roll , let 's get rid of the FEC as well , it 's only purpose is to further the two-party system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last time I checked Nielsen can't tax me or throw me in jail for non-compliance with the regulatory state.The excess data (specifically race) is primarily used to gerrymander voting districts and guarantee the congressional incumbent a re-election.As someone who thinks both major parties suck, I have a serious problem with this type of meddling in the electoral system.
While I'm on a roll, let's get rid of the FEC as well, it's only purpose is to further the two-party system.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610748</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611786</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>schwanerhill</author>
	<datestamp>1269535920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Perhaps in 1790 that's all the census needed to know (that and how may slaves you owned), but it's a far different situation now.</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, in 1790, they did ask for sex, race, and date of birth. <a href="http://2010.census.gov/2010census/text/text-form.php" title="census.gov">http://2010.census.gov/2010census/text/text-form.php</a> [census.gov]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps in 1790 that 's all the census needed to know ( that and how may slaves you owned ) , but it 's a far different situation now.Well , in 1790 , they did ask for sex , race , and date of birth .
http : //2010.census.gov/2010census/text/text-form.php [ census.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps in 1790 that's all the census needed to know (that and how may slaves you owned), but it's a far different situation now.Well, in 1790, they did ask for sex, race, and date of birth.
http://2010.census.gov/2010census/text/text-form.php [census.gov]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31618308</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269514380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As an aside, the census had nothing to do with the Japanese internment during WWII. At most it made calculating the number of Japanese-Americans easier, allowing the round up to be more accurate. Maybe. Given how easy it is to separate people by obvious ethnic ancestry, the round up would have occurred any way. Besides which, it's not as if either of scenarios mentioned in the OP actually provided anything more than numbers. They didn't provide addresses, names, or any actual personal information. Merely the number who marked a certain ethnicity in a certain county.</p><p>So yes, these people are still just paranoid.</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=confirmed-the-us-census-b&amp;sc=I100322" title="scientificamerican.com" rel="nofollow">Bullshit</a> [scientificamerican.com], total and utter <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-03-30-census-role\_N.htm" title="usatoday.com" rel="nofollow">bullshit</a> [usatoday.com]. And those who modded the parent up as informative are idiots.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As an aside , the census had nothing to do with the Japanese internment during WWII .
At most it made calculating the number of Japanese-Americans easier , allowing the round up to be more accurate .
Maybe. Given how easy it is to separate people by obvious ethnic ancestry , the round up would have occurred any way .
Besides which , it 's not as if either of scenarios mentioned in the OP actually provided anything more than numbers .
They did n't provide addresses , names , or any actual personal information .
Merely the number who marked a certain ethnicity in a certain county.So yes , these people are still just paranoid .
Bullshit [ scientificamerican.com ] , total and utter bullshit [ usatoday.com ] .
And those who modded the parent up as informative are idiots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an aside, the census had nothing to do with the Japanese internment during WWII.
At most it made calculating the number of Japanese-Americans easier, allowing the round up to be more accurate.
Maybe. Given how easy it is to separate people by obvious ethnic ancestry, the round up would have occurred any way.
Besides which, it's not as if either of scenarios mentioned in the OP actually provided anything more than numbers.
They didn't provide addresses, names, or any actual personal information.
Merely the number who marked a certain ethnicity in a certain county.So yes, these people are still just paranoid.
Bullshit [scientificamerican.com], total and utter bullshit [usatoday.com].
And those who modded the parent up as informative are idiots.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31615476</id>
	<title>Damn right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269547380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I havent mailed mine out as yet, but I put that the host of the house was first, and slashed through everything else, adult spouse for the second, slashed through everything else, a dependent third and fourth, and slashed through everything.<br>Will mail it Monday....<br>fine me $100... well worth telling the government to phuck off and get out of my personal life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I havent mailed mine out as yet , but I put that the host of the house was first , and slashed through everything else , adult spouse for the second , slashed through everything else , a dependent third and fourth , and slashed through everything.Will mail it Monday....fine me $ 100... well worth telling the government to phuck off and get out of my personal life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I havent mailed mine out as yet, but I put that the host of the house was first, and slashed through everything else, adult spouse for the second, slashed through everything else, a dependent third and fourth, and slashed through everything.Will mail it Monday....fine me $100... well worth telling the government to phuck off and get out of my personal life.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610834</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610860</id>
	<title>Meaningful Action</title>
	<author>99BottlesOfBeerInMyF</author>
	<datestamp>1269532980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did not hear about the data being handed over to the Department of Homeland defense, but I do know a bit about the Census Bureau. Federal law prohibits all employees of the Census Bureau from releasing this data. So if the government wants to restore my faith in it and set a good precedent to prevent future abuse, arrest everyone involved in the 2003-2004 data breach, convict them and send them to prison for 5 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did not hear about the data being handed over to the Department of Homeland defense , but I do know a bit about the Census Bureau .
Federal law prohibits all employees of the Census Bureau from releasing this data .
So if the government wants to restore my faith in it and set a good precedent to prevent future abuse , arrest everyone involved in the 2003-2004 data breach , convict them and send them to prison for 5 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did not hear about the data being handed over to the Department of Homeland defense, but I do know a bit about the Census Bureau.
Federal law prohibits all employees of the Census Bureau from releasing this data.
So if the government wants to restore my faith in it and set a good precedent to prevent future abuse, arrest everyone involved in the 2003-2004 data breach, convict them and send them to prison for 5 years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610988</id>
	<title>Why birth date?</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1269533460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why does the census need to know birth date? Not just the year, but also month and day? That struck me as really odd and unnecessary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does the census need to know birth date ?
Not just the year , but also month and day ?
That struck me as really odd and unnecessary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does the census need to know birth date?
Not just the year, but also month and day?
That struck me as really odd and unnecessary.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31618386</id>
	<title>Re:The one question they don't ask</title>
	<author>Myopic</author>
	<datestamp>1269514740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You make a good point, but just so you know, the rules of the census sufficiently work around the problem of visitors. The question then becomes why are we counting non-citizen residents -- and I imagine there is a reasonable and good answer. Perhaps it's because non-citizens still use government services, I'm not really sure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You make a good point , but just so you know , the rules of the census sufficiently work around the problem of visitors .
The question then becomes why are we counting non-citizen residents -- and I imagine there is a reasonable and good answer .
Perhaps it 's because non-citizens still use government services , I 'm not really sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You make a good point, but just so you know, the rules of the census sufficiently work around the problem of visitors.
The question then becomes why are we counting non-citizen residents -- and I imagine there is a reasonable and good answer.
Perhaps it's because non-citizens still use government services, I'm not really sure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612350</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611204</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>canajin56</author>
	<datestamp>1269534180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Like the Republican who told everybody not to fill the forms out, and stick it to the man.  Then somebody told her that if her constituents didn't fill it out, her seat would disappear, as her district was already so small that it barely had enough people to have one in the first place, and any drop in population would see it subsumed into surrounding districts.  "By don't fill it out I meant only fill out the number of people in your household."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like the Republican who told everybody not to fill the forms out , and stick it to the man .
Then somebody told her that if her constituents did n't fill it out , her seat would disappear , as her district was already so small that it barely had enough people to have one in the first place , and any drop in population would see it subsumed into surrounding districts .
" By do n't fill it out I meant only fill out the number of people in your household .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like the Republican who told everybody not to fill the forms out, and stick it to the man.
Then somebody told her that if her constituents didn't fill it out, her seat would disappear, as her district was already so small that it barely had enough people to have one in the first place, and any drop in population would see it subsumed into surrounding districts.
"By don't fill it out I meant only fill out the number of people in your household.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614990</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy Act of 1974</title>
	<author>EvilBudMan</author>
	<datestamp>1269545700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was illegal then. Under national emergencies like the war on whatever, things can and do change by executive order.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was illegal then .
Under national emergencies like the war on whatever , things can and do change by executive order .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was illegal then.
Under national emergencies like the war on whatever, things can and do change by executive order.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610800</id>
	<title>Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Conservatives" wanted to round up arabs?   Do you have a single shred of proof for this or are you basically a Truther or Birther at heart, with nothing but paranoia to offer us?</p><p>No-one wanted to "round up arabs" since that would have been stupid and done nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Conservatives " wanted to round up arabs ?
Do you have a single shred of proof for this or are you basically a Truther or Birther at heart , with nothing but paranoia to offer us ? No-one wanted to " round up arabs " since that would have been stupid and done nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Conservatives" wanted to round up arabs?
Do you have a single shred of proof for this or are you basically a Truther or Birther at heart, with nothing but paranoia to offer us?No-one wanted to "round up arabs" since that would have been stupid and done nothing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613068</id>
	<title>Re:My privacy won't be violated</title>
	<author>blackraven14250</author>
	<datestamp>1269539760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's no leaking going on. Never has the census given out individual data when it was against the law. Those laws were created in response to what happened to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor. The "arab" information was given as aggregate data. Since the entire point of the census is to provide aggregate data to any government agency that needs it, they performed their job perfectly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no leaking going on .
Never has the census given out individual data when it was against the law .
Those laws were created in response to what happened to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor .
The " arab " information was given as aggregate data .
Since the entire point of the census is to provide aggregate data to any government agency that needs it , they performed their job perfectly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no leaking going on.
Never has the census given out individual data when it was against the law.
Those laws were created in response to what happened to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor.
The "arab" information was given as aggregate data.
Since the entire point of the census is to provide aggregate data to any government agency that needs it, they performed their job perfectly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31615324</id>
	<title>Re:Why birth date?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269546840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Folks researching geneology* find birth date particularly valuable; it's often the only way of telling when one of your anscestors was born.</p><p>* Yes, that's spelled wrong and no, I don't care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Folks researching geneology * find birth date particularly valuable ; it 's often the only way of telling when one of your anscestors was born .
* Yes , that 's spelled wrong and no , I do n't care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Folks researching geneology* find birth date particularly valuable; it's often the only way of telling when one of your anscestors was born.
* Yes, that's spelled wrong and no, I don't care.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610988</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31622614</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269545940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"All other questions (SSN, birth date, birth place) are not part of the census"</p><p>Wrong. They do ask for your birthday.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" All other questions ( SSN , birth date , birth place ) are not part of the census " Wrong .
They do ask for your birthday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"All other questions (SSN, birth date, birth place) are not part of the census"Wrong.
They do ask for your birthday.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610632</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611632</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269535500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work in economics research, the Census is priceless data that propels all work in the field.</p><p>Just remember: the Census releases counts only. At smaller geographic levels they release fewer counts and cap things like income data. There is no way researchers or anyone else can back who specifically lives where, even for the Arab-American zip code data. In fact you can get Hispanic population counts at the block level (about 4 sq. city blocks on average). They do release individual mico-level data, but only 5\% and 15\% samples with even more protection of geography. Their priority is equally to gather data and protect the privacy of individuals.</p><p>Please consider these things before jumping to conclusions; it's not a sinister gov. organization but an invaluable public resource that should be protected from politics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work in economics research , the Census is priceless data that propels all work in the field.Just remember : the Census releases counts only .
At smaller geographic levels they release fewer counts and cap things like income data .
There is no way researchers or anyone else can back who specifically lives where , even for the Arab-American zip code data .
In fact you can get Hispanic population counts at the block level ( about 4 sq .
city blocks on average ) .
They do release individual mico-level data , but only 5 \ % and 15 \ % samples with even more protection of geography .
Their priority is equally to gather data and protect the privacy of individuals.Please consider these things before jumping to conclusions ; it 's not a sinister gov .
organization but an invaluable public resource that should be protected from politics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work in economics research, the Census is priceless data that propels all work in the field.Just remember: the Census releases counts only.
At smaller geographic levels they release fewer counts and cap things like income data.
There is no way researchers or anyone else can back who specifically lives where, even for the Arab-American zip code data.
In fact you can get Hispanic population counts at the block level (about 4 sq.
city blocks on average).
They do release individual mico-level data, but only 5\% and 15\% samples with even more protection of geography.
Their priority is equally to gather data and protect the privacy of individuals.Please consider these things before jumping to conclusions; it's not a sinister gov.
organization but an invaluable public resource that should be protected from politics.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610682</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610654</id>
	<title>Will census data stay private?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The real question is, does it matter?  Ok, so census data is kept secure.  What about every other form you've filled out that asks the same questions, or similar questions.  Or just plain ol Google datamining?</p><p>What difference does it make if this data over here is locked up tight when this same data over here is plastered all over the interwebs?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real question is , does it matter ?
Ok , so census data is kept secure .
What about every other form you 've filled out that asks the same questions , or similar questions .
Or just plain ol Google datamining ? What difference does it make if this data over here is locked up tight when this same data over here is plastered all over the interwebs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real question is, does it matter?
Ok, so census data is kept secure.
What about every other form you've filled out that asks the same questions, or similar questions.
Or just plain ol Google datamining?What difference does it make if this data over here is locked up tight when this same data over here is plastered all over the interwebs?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610758</id>
	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>cosm</author>
	<datestamp>1269532680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. </i>
<br> <b>-Ayn Rand</b>
<br> <br>
What does this say about America? Read <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-rotenberg/privacy-vs-security-priva\_b\_71806.html" title="huffingtonpost.com" rel="nofollow"> this</a> [huffingtonpost.com] for a good overview of technology's intertwined relationship with the failings of geopolitical advancement of privacy. Basic summary: it isn't technologies fault for privacy lost, its the people who regulate it. <br> <br>To quote:<br>"The attacks of 9-11 challenged our country in new ways. But perhaps the biggest challenge was whether we would safeguard both our country and our Constitutional heritage or whether we would have weak leaders who were unable to protect the country without sacrificing our freedoms.

Regrettably, we found that our political leaders lacked the ability to uphold our laws. For electronic surveillance, they pushed aside the judiciary and asserted the President's authority to intercept the private communications of American citizens within the United States. Even with the broad powers of the Patriot Act, the White House grew impatient and colluded with the telephone companies to disclose private customer records without legal basis or judicial review."</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy .
The savage 's whole existence is public , ruled by the laws of his tribe .
Civilization is the process of setting man free from men .
-Ayn Rand What does this say about America ?
Read this [ huffingtonpost.com ] for a good overview of technology 's intertwined relationship with the failings of geopolitical advancement of privacy .
Basic summary : it is n't technologies fault for privacy lost , its the people who regulate it .
To quote : " The attacks of 9-11 challenged our country in new ways .
But perhaps the biggest challenge was whether we would safeguard both our country and our Constitutional heritage or whether we would have weak leaders who were unable to protect the country without sacrificing our freedoms .
Regrettably , we found that our political leaders lacked the ability to uphold our laws .
For electronic surveillance , they pushed aside the judiciary and asserted the President 's authority to intercept the private communications of American citizens within the United States .
Even with the broad powers of the Patriot Act , the White House grew impatient and colluded with the telephone companies to disclose private customer records without legal basis or judicial review .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy.
The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe.
Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.
-Ayn Rand
 
What does this say about America?
Read  this [huffingtonpost.com] for a good overview of technology's intertwined relationship with the failings of geopolitical advancement of privacy.
Basic summary: it isn't technologies fault for privacy lost, its the people who regulate it.
To quote:"The attacks of 9-11 challenged our country in new ways.
But perhaps the biggest challenge was whether we would safeguard both our country and our Constitutional heritage or whether we would have weak leaders who were unable to protect the country without sacrificing our freedoms.
Regrettably, we found that our political leaders lacked the ability to uphold our laws.
For electronic surveillance, they pushed aside the judiciary and asserted the President's authority to intercept the private communications of American citizens within the United States.
Even with the broad powers of the Patriot Act, the White House grew impatient and colluded with the telephone companies to disclose private customer records without legal basis or judicial review.
"
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613200</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>chill</author>
	<datestamp>1269540300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There ain't no such critter.  All "blacks" -- technically "<a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Negroid" title="thefreedictionary.com">Negroid</a> [thefreedictionary.com]" in ethnology -- entered the Western Hemisphere from Africa (eventually), either brought as slaves early on (1400s - 1800s) or as immigrants later.  African-American and Native-American doesn't refer to just U.S. people.  The "American" part refers to all of North, Central and South America.</p><p>"Native American" covers all ethnicities that were native to the pre-Columbian Western Hemisphere.  Everything from Inuits up north down to the Mapuche of Chile and everywhere in between.</p><p>Note that the form says to mark ONE OR MORE boxes.  If you're a mix, feel free to mark it up.  There's even an "other", write-in box.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There ai n't no such critter .
All " blacks " -- technically " Negroid [ thefreedictionary.com ] " in ethnology -- entered the Western Hemisphere from Africa ( eventually ) , either brought as slaves early on ( 1400s - 1800s ) or as immigrants later .
African-American and Native-American does n't refer to just U.S. people. The " American " part refers to all of North , Central and South America .
" Native American " covers all ethnicities that were native to the pre-Columbian Western Hemisphere .
Everything from Inuits up north down to the Mapuche of Chile and everywhere in between.Note that the form says to mark ONE OR MORE boxes .
If you 're a mix , feel free to mark it up .
There 's even an " other " , write-in box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There ain't no such critter.
All "blacks" -- technically "Negroid [thefreedictionary.com]" in ethnology -- entered the Western Hemisphere from Africa (eventually), either brought as slaves early on (1400s - 1800s) or as immigrants later.
African-American and Native-American doesn't refer to just U.S. people.  The "American" part refers to all of North, Central and South America.
"Native American" covers all ethnicities that were native to the pre-Columbian Western Hemisphere.
Everything from Inuits up north down to the Mapuche of Chile and everywhere in between.Note that the form says to mark ONE OR MORE boxes.
If you're a mix, feel free to mark it up.
There's even an "other", write-in box.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612456</id>
	<title>I don't get it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269537840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Age = timeless<br>Race = NASCAR<br>Sex = YES PLEASE!!!</p><p>what's the big deal?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Age = timelessRace = NASCARSex = YES PLEASE ! !
! what 's the big deal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Age = timelessRace = NASCARSex = YES PLEASE!!
!what's the big deal?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611800</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269535980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>t is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt. know as much about the people they represent as possible. If they don't know facts about, say, the social and financial background of their constituents, how can they govern effectively?</p></div><p>Absolutely LOL! Still gobbling down the "representative" government semen, huh? The politicians love folks like you, and have a good laugh at the lavish parties thrown by lobbyists. I used to work for a power industry lobbying group and saw it first hand. If I showed them your post in private, they'd pop a lung from the laughter at what an idiot you are.</p><p>Holy crap but your stupidity and naivete are friggin *EPIC*. Come to California where members of the state government have pretty much come out and said they don't give a half a rat's shit about the taxpaying citizens. They're just a resource to be sucked dry. But thanks to gerrymandering and legions of delusional shitheads like you, they never get voted out.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>t is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt .
know as much about the people they represent as possible .
If they do n't know facts about , say , the social and financial background of their constituents , how can they govern effectively ? Absolutely LOL !
Still gobbling down the " representative " government semen , huh ?
The politicians love folks like you , and have a good laugh at the lavish parties thrown by lobbyists .
I used to work for a power industry lobbying group and saw it first hand .
If I showed them your post in private , they 'd pop a lung from the laughter at what an idiot you are.Holy crap but your stupidity and naivete are friggin * EPIC * .
Come to California where members of the state government have pretty much come out and said they do n't give a half a rat 's shit about the taxpaying citizens .
They 're just a resource to be sucked dry .
But thanks to gerrymandering and legions of delusional shitheads like you , they never get voted out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>t is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt.
know as much about the people they represent as possible.
If they don't know facts about, say, the social and financial background of their constituents, how can they govern effectively?Absolutely LOL!
Still gobbling down the "representative" government semen, huh?
The politicians love folks like you, and have a good laugh at the lavish parties thrown by lobbyists.
I used to work for a power industry lobbying group and saw it first hand.
If I showed them your post in private, they'd pop a lung from the laughter at what an idiot you are.Holy crap but your stupidity and naivete are friggin *EPIC*.
Come to California where members of the state government have pretty much come out and said they don't give a half a rat's shit about the taxpaying citizens.
They're just a resource to be sucked dry.
But thanks to gerrymandering and legions of delusional shitheads like you, they never get voted out.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610596</id>
	<title>first post?</title>
	<author>2obvious4u</author>
	<datestamp>1269532140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>White Male, 30
<br>
I don't have anything to worry about right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>White Male , 30 I do n't have anything to worry about right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>White Male, 30

I don't have anything to worry about right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613238</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1269540420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the privacy act of 1974 wasn't in place during WWII.</p><p>We did not round up everyone with a middle eastern ancestry after 9/11.</p><p>So.. no, I am not worried about this; what I am worried about is that so many of poster on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. jut take what pundits say at face value and don't even bother to apply their brain to what they are saying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the privacy act of 1974 was n't in place during WWII.We did not round up everyone with a middle eastern ancestry after 9/11.So.. no , I am not worried about this ; what I am worried about is that so many of poster on / .
jut take what pundits say at face value and do n't even bother to apply their brain to what they are saying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the privacy act of 1974 wasn't in place during WWII.We did not round up everyone with a middle eastern ancestry after 9/11.So.. no, I am not worried about this; what I am worried about is that so many of poster on /.
jut take what pundits say at face value and don't even bother to apply their brain to what they are saying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31634694</id>
	<title>Will they stay private -- not likely.</title>
	<author>niftymitch</author>
	<datestamp>1269610320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Will they stay private -- not likely.
<p>
Others including the original posting have commented on the historic badness.   What we do not know are the historic but unpublished reports generated but hidden and not likely to surface because the result was more focused and did not encounter a political topic that justified a book.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will they stay private -- not likely .
Others including the original posting have commented on the historic badness .
What we do not know are the historic but unpublished reports generated but hidden and not likely to surface because the result was more focused and did not encounter a political topic that justified a book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will they stay private -- not likely.
Others including the original posting have commented on the historic badness.
What we do not know are the historic but unpublished reports generated but hidden and not likely to surface because the result was more focused and did not encounter a political topic that justified a book.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611144</id>
	<title>Not this again...</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1269534060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the third census I've participated in as an adult, and the fourth for which I was old enough to pay attention to the media/hype around it.  And in each and every one, wingnuts from all over the political spectrum have crawled out from under their respective rocks and foamed at the mouth over the government intrusion into private lives.</p><p>Give it rest guys.  Your claims don't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny.  The interment camps were <i>nearly seventy years ago</i>.  We've learned since then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the third census I 've participated in as an adult , and the fourth for which I was old enough to pay attention to the media/hype around it .
And in each and every one , wingnuts from all over the political spectrum have crawled out from under their respective rocks and foamed at the mouth over the government intrusion into private lives.Give it rest guys .
Your claims do n't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny .
The interment camps were nearly seventy years ago .
We 've learned since then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the third census I've participated in as an adult, and the fourth for which I was old enough to pay attention to the media/hype around it.
And in each and every one, wingnuts from all over the political spectrum have crawled out from under their respective rocks and foamed at the mouth over the government intrusion into private lives.Give it rest guys.
Your claims don't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny.
The interment camps were nearly seventy years ago.
We've learned since then.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613304</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy Act of 1974</title>
	<author>Thinine</author>
	<datestamp>1269540600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He was probably referring to the Tuskegee experiments. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee\_syphilis\_experiment" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee\_syphilis\_experiment</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>He was probably referring to the Tuskegee experiments .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee \ _syphilis \ _experiment [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He was probably referring to the Tuskegee experiments.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee\_syphilis\_experiment [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610910</id>
	<title>Race as American</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not answering the race question is likely to lead to a visit by census staff and your refusal to play their game will come to naught. You'll be marked in their records as a troublemaker and your race determined by a census worker. There's a lot of pressure on them to generate the required data.

A much simpler approach is to check your race as Other and in the blank fill in "American." It's true, and it foils attempts to label us racially for whatever the purpose.

Keep in mind that this census is, contrary to what the Constitution specifies, very much about race. About six months ago a census worker visited my apartment wanting to know if any Native Americans lived there. He was a nice, elderly gentleman who didn't have any political agendas himself. But it was clear that, if that were true, my living circumstances would have been singled out for special examination.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not answering the race question is likely to lead to a visit by census staff and your refusal to play their game will come to naught .
You 'll be marked in their records as a troublemaker and your race determined by a census worker .
There 's a lot of pressure on them to generate the required data .
A much simpler approach is to check your race as Other and in the blank fill in " American .
" It 's true , and it foils attempts to label us racially for whatever the purpose .
Keep in mind that this census is , contrary to what the Constitution specifies , very much about race .
About six months ago a census worker visited my apartment wanting to know if any Native Americans lived there .
He was a nice , elderly gentleman who did n't have any political agendas himself .
But it was clear that , if that were true , my living circumstances would have been singled out for special examination .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not answering the race question is likely to lead to a visit by census staff and your refusal to play their game will come to naught.
You'll be marked in their records as a troublemaker and your race determined by a census worker.
There's a lot of pressure on them to generate the required data.
A much simpler approach is to check your race as Other and in the blank fill in "American.
" It's true, and it foils attempts to label us racially for whatever the purpose.
Keep in mind that this census is, contrary to what the Constitution specifies, very much about race.
About six months ago a census worker visited my apartment wanting to know if any Native Americans lived there.
He was a nice, elderly gentleman who didn't have any political agendas himself.
But it was clear that, if that were true, my living circumstances would have been singled out for special examination.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610742</id>
	<title>Aggregate data = No privacy</title>
	<author>crow</author>
	<datestamp>1269532620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They say that they won't release your information for something like 85 years, but they do release aggregate data.  In the 2000 census, there were complaints that it was possible to determine individual answers from the aggregate data because they were releasing data for very small areas.  I think it was by Zip+4, which narrows typically narrows it down to fewer than ten houses.</p><p>For me, I'm not concerned about the privacy, but I take offense at being asked to identify as being of a specific race.  Whatever happened to the Great American Melting Pot?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They say that they wo n't release your information for something like 85 years , but they do release aggregate data .
In the 2000 census , there were complaints that it was possible to determine individual answers from the aggregate data because they were releasing data for very small areas .
I think it was by Zip + 4 , which narrows typically narrows it down to fewer than ten houses.For me , I 'm not concerned about the privacy , but I take offense at being asked to identify as being of a specific race .
Whatever happened to the Great American Melting Pot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They say that they won't release your information for something like 85 years, but they do release aggregate data.
In the 2000 census, there were complaints that it was possible to determine individual answers from the aggregate data because they were releasing data for very small areas.
I think it was by Zip+4, which narrows typically narrows it down to fewer than ten houses.For me, I'm not concerned about the privacy, but I take offense at being asked to identify as being of a specific race.
Whatever happened to the Great American Melting Pot?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611384</id>
	<title>Re:Aggregate data = No privacy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's not much melting.  It's more like a salad.  All in the same bowl and tossed around a bit.</p><p>If the census data about your race would lead to them giving you some break or hassle, i'd agree with you.  But that's not the case.  This is about finding who we are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's not much melting .
It 's more like a salad .
All in the same bowl and tossed around a bit.If the census data about your race would lead to them giving you some break or hassle , i 'd agree with you .
But that 's not the case .
This is about finding who we are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's not much melting.
It's more like a salad.
All in the same bowl and tossed around a bit.If the census data about your race would lead to them giving you some break or hassle, i'd agree with you.
But that's not the case.
This is about finding who we are.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610742</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612270</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>misexistentialist</author>
	<datestamp>1269537300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you are the first to bring up the idea, but not filling out the census would be an interesting form of n civil disobedience now that it is impossible to refuse to pay taxes. We might be able to reduce the House to 50 members, which would be extremely beneficial.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you are the first to bring up the idea , but not filling out the census would be an interesting form of n civil disobedience now that it is impossible to refuse to pay taxes .
We might be able to reduce the House to 50 members , which would be extremely beneficial .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you are the first to bring up the idea, but not filling out the census would be an interesting form of n civil disobedience now that it is impossible to refuse to pay taxes.
We might be able to reduce the House to 50 members, which would be extremely beneficial.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610748</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612350</id>
	<title>The one question they don't ask</title>
	<author>NotQuiteReal</author>
	<datestamp>1269537600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The census form doesn't ask if one is a citizen or not.
<br>
<br>
Constitutionally, isn't the census required only for determining how many and where congressional districts are to be?
<br>
<br>
I find it odd that they don't ask how many <b>citizens</b> live in each location. Seems to me just counting people would be like giving an extra congressional seat to a city just because they happened to have 100,000 visitors (say, for a super bowl game) on the day you counted...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The census form does n't ask if one is a citizen or not .
Constitutionally , is n't the census required only for determining how many and where congressional districts are to be ?
I find it odd that they do n't ask how many citizens live in each location .
Seems to me just counting people would be like giving an extra congressional seat to a city just because they happened to have 100,000 visitors ( say , for a super bowl game ) on the day you counted.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The census form doesn't ask if one is a citizen or not.
Constitutionally, isn't the census required only for determining how many and where congressional districts are to be?
I find it odd that they don't ask how many citizens live in each location.
Seems to me just counting people would be like giving an extra congressional seat to a city just because they happened to have 100,000 visitors (say, for a super bowl game) on the day you counted...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611662</id>
	<title>Please don't just list the count...</title>
	<author>Mr. McGibby</author>
	<datestamp>1269535560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do a lot of genealogy research and census records are invaluable for doing family history.  Your grandkids will thank you if you take off the tin foil hat and fill it out completely and accurately.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do a lot of genealogy research and census records are invaluable for doing family history .
Your grandkids will thank you if you take off the tin foil hat and fill it out completely and accurately .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do a lot of genealogy research and census records are invaluable for doing family history.
Your grandkids will thank you if you take off the tin foil hat and fill it out completely and accurately.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610606</id>
	<title>I agree</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1269532140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And the fact that Glenn Beck has said the same thing makes me feel dirty.  Ugh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And the fact that Glenn Beck has said the same thing makes me feel dirty .
Ugh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the fact that Glenn Beck has said the same thing makes me feel dirty.
Ugh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611910</id>
	<title>Wou've got to be kidding</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anybody still believe ANYTHING the government says ???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anybody still believe ANYTHING the government says ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anybody still believe ANYTHING the government says ??
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31615806</id>
	<title>Re:Aggregate data = No privacy</title>
	<author>Thugthrasher</author>
	<datestamp>1269548460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The aggregate data is not LINKED data.

Sure, in a census block (the smallest unit of measurement), they might tell you how many people are black, plus the ages of the people in that block, but they won't tell you that "this person was black and 34 years old."

Now, IPUMS does release linked data upon request, but only for larger areas, and they limit what you can get out of that and there are complex protocols in place to make sure that you CAN'T determine individual answers.  That's why you have to submit each request individually...and that's why the data isn't available immediately.

Trust me, I've done a good bit of research in demography (as in, that's my field, not that I did a lot of "research" on the net).  You can't determine individuals from this information.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The aggregate data is not LINKED data .
Sure , in a census block ( the smallest unit of measurement ) , they might tell you how many people are black , plus the ages of the people in that block , but they wo n't tell you that " this person was black and 34 years old .
" Now , IPUMS does release linked data upon request , but only for larger areas , and they limit what you can get out of that and there are complex protocols in place to make sure that you CA N'T determine individual answers .
That 's why you have to submit each request individually...and that 's why the data is n't available immediately .
Trust me , I 've done a good bit of research in demography ( as in , that 's my field , not that I did a lot of " research " on the net ) .
You ca n't determine individuals from this information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The aggregate data is not LINKED data.
Sure, in a census block (the smallest unit of measurement), they might tell you how many people are black, plus the ages of the people in that block, but they won't tell you that "this person was black and 34 years old.
"

Now, IPUMS does release linked data upon request, but only for larger areas, and they limit what you can get out of that and there are complex protocols in place to make sure that you CAN'T determine individual answers.
That's why you have to submit each request individually...and that's why the data isn't available immediately.
Trust me, I've done a good bit of research in demography (as in, that's my field, not that I did a lot of "research" on the net).
You can't determine individuals from this information.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610742</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610934</id>
	<title>Sometimes your census data is used for good...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>As an urban planner, I can say in all honesty that eliminating things like race from the census would be devastating to research processes.  There is a lot of super valuable information in the census data when it comes to identifying trends and demographics, and types of services required for certain types of residents, etc.

It is terrible that personally identifiable census data has been used in the past to round people up, or create "watch" lists of sorts, but understand that many many other groups and agencies use non-personally identifiable information gained from the census forms to actually do some good for communities.  A ridiculous amount of stuff that urban planners do in GIS is with census data, and without it, or with significant amounts of errors, it becomes useless and entirely possible that planning decisions will be made with bad information.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As an urban planner , I can say in all honesty that eliminating things like race from the census would be devastating to research processes .
There is a lot of super valuable information in the census data when it comes to identifying trends and demographics , and types of services required for certain types of residents , etc .
It is terrible that personally identifiable census data has been used in the past to round people up , or create " watch " lists of sorts , but understand that many many other groups and agencies use non-personally identifiable information gained from the census forms to actually do some good for communities .
A ridiculous amount of stuff that urban planners do in GIS is with census data , and without it , or with significant amounts of errors , it becomes useless and entirely possible that planning decisions will be made with bad information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an urban planner, I can say in all honesty that eliminating things like race from the census would be devastating to research processes.
There is a lot of super valuable information in the census data when it comes to identifying trends and demographics, and types of services required for certain types of residents, etc.
It is terrible that personally identifiable census data has been used in the past to round people up, or create "watch" lists of sorts, but understand that many many other groups and agencies use non-personally identifiable information gained from the census forms to actually do some good for communities.
A ridiculous amount of stuff that urban planners do in GIS is with census data, and without it, or with significant amounts of errors, it becomes useless and entirely possible that planning decisions will be made with bad information.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613600</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>EvilIdler</author>
	<datestamp>1269541440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, Americans would *never* find a remote location to round up people they don't like, lock them up, keep them from seeing the light of day and torture them to get a terrorist confession out of them. It would never happen. The US is too nice for that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , Americans would * never * find a remote location to round up people they do n't like , lock them up , keep them from seeing the light of day and torture them to get a terrorist confession out of them .
It would never happen .
The US is too nice for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, Americans would *never* find a remote location to round up people they don't like, lock them up, keep them from seeing the light of day and torture them to get a terrorist confession out of them.
It would never happen.
The US is too nice for that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611144</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612798</id>
	<title>Re:Will census data stay private?</title>
	<author>jdgeorge</author>
	<datestamp>1269538980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> How much of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010\_United\_States\_Census" title="wikipedia.org">GAO-estimated $11 billion cost of the census</a> [wikipedia.org] would you guess was wasted^H^H^H^H^H^Hspent on those additional reminders?  Would it have been more cost-effective to send out a second request (or even a Census Bureau representative) to the locations where a census form was sent but not returned a month after the original mailing?</p></div><p>I'm preparing my outrage for when someone provides the answers to these questions, and explains the specifics of how doing it differently would have worked better and saved money.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much of the GAO-estimated $ 11 billion cost of the census [ wikipedia.org ] would you guess was wasted ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ Hspent on those additional reminders ?
Would it have been more cost-effective to send out a second request ( or even a Census Bureau representative ) to the locations where a census form was sent but not returned a month after the original mailing ? I 'm preparing my outrage for when someone provides the answers to these questions , and explains the specifics of how doing it differently would have worked better and saved money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> How much of the GAO-estimated $11 billion cost of the census [wikipedia.org] would you guess was wasted^H^H^H^H^H^Hspent on those additional reminders?
Would it have been more cost-effective to send out a second request (or even a Census Bureau representative) to the locations where a census form was sent but not returned a month after the original mailing?I'm preparing my outrage for when someone provides the answers to these questions, and explains the specifics of how doing it differently would have worked better and saved money.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611540</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611178</id>
	<title>So what?</title>
	<author>eples</author>
	<datestamp>1269534180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did anyone actually look at the form? <br> <br>
How exactly would I go about keeping my race private in day-to-day activities?<br> <br>
This is just more right-wing tea party nutjob noise.<br> <br>
Fill out the form people. It takes 30 seconds and there's surprisingly little asked.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did anyone actually look at the form ?
How exactly would I go about keeping my race private in day-to-day activities ?
This is just more right-wing tea party nutjob noise .
Fill out the form people .
It takes 30 seconds and there 's surprisingly little asked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did anyone actually look at the form?
How exactly would I go about keeping my race private in day-to-day activities?
This is just more right-wing tea party nutjob noise.
Fill out the form people.
It takes 30 seconds and there's surprisingly little asked.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612692</id>
	<title>Re:The census isn't just about counting</title>
	<author>ThomasBombadillo</author>
	<datestamp>1269538680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since when is it the federal government's job to figure out where to locate schools and hospitals? I can't think of a better way to guarantee that they will end up in the wrong place, or that there will be too many, or too few, or too expensive. Let the people who live in the communities decide where their schools and hospitals will be placed.

The sole purpose of the census is to count people in order to determine proper congressional representation. If you responded with more than a number on your census, you gave them more information than they need.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when is it the federal government 's job to figure out where to locate schools and hospitals ?
I ca n't think of a better way to guarantee that they will end up in the wrong place , or that there will be too many , or too few , or too expensive .
Let the people who live in the communities decide where their schools and hospitals will be placed .
The sole purpose of the census is to count people in order to determine proper congressional representation .
If you responded with more than a number on your census , you gave them more information than they need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when is it the federal government's job to figure out where to locate schools and hospitals?
I can't think of a better way to guarantee that they will end up in the wrong place, or that there will be too many, or too few, or too expensive.
Let the people who live in the communities decide where their schools and hospitals will be placed.
The sole purpose of the census is to count people in order to determine proper congressional representation.
If you responded with more than a number on your census, you gave them more information than they need.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610904</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611310</id>
	<title>So they did reports on the number....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.... of Japanese Americans by county and the number of Arab-Americans by county.</p><p>They didn't provide a list of names and addresses I presume.  In today's world, you risk your privacy to a much greater extent every day you access the internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.... of Japanese Americans by county and the number of Arab-Americans by county.They did n't provide a list of names and addresses I presume .
In today 's world , you risk your privacy to a much greater extent every day you access the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.... of Japanese Americans by county and the number of Arab-Americans by county.They didn't provide a list of names and addresses I presume.
In today's world, you risk your privacy to a much greater extent every day you access the internet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610944</id>
	<title>Re:Compare and contrast these "concentration camps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>German immigrants weren't rounded up during WWII, you would have had to have locked 3/4 people in Wisconsin into camps if you wanted to do that.  Incidentally, German POW's were sent to Wisconsin so that they would 'feel at home' during their war time imprisonment and not want to harm the nearby population.  And the funny part is that it worked, supposedly the prisoners would sneak out at night and go to barn dances... only to sneak back in the morning because they just didn't have anywhere else to go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>German immigrants were n't rounded up during WWII , you would have had to have locked 3/4 people in Wisconsin into camps if you wanted to do that .
Incidentally , German POW 's were sent to Wisconsin so that they would 'feel at home ' during their war time imprisonment and not want to harm the nearby population .
And the funny part is that it worked , supposedly the prisoners would sneak out at night and go to barn dances... only to sneak back in the morning because they just did n't have anywhere else to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>German immigrants weren't rounded up during WWII, you would have had to have locked 3/4 people in Wisconsin into camps if you wanted to do that.
Incidentally, German POW's were sent to Wisconsin so that they would 'feel at home' during their war time imprisonment and not want to harm the nearby population.
And the funny part is that it worked, supposedly the prisoners would sneak out at night and go to barn dances... only to sneak back in the morning because they just didn't have anywhere else to go.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610672</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612024</id>
	<title>Idiots</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After the census laws were put in place so that the misuse of census data would never happen again.  It was ruled that the privacy of the census data is more important than the Patriot Act.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After the census laws were put in place so that the misuse of census data would never happen again .
It was ruled that the privacy of the census data is more important than the Patriot Act .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After the census laws were put in place so that the misuse of census data would never happen again.
It was ruled that the privacy of the census data is more important than the Patriot Act.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612460</id>
	<title>Re:My privacy won't be violated</title>
	<author>donutz</author>
	<datestamp>1269537840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Per Title 13, they could fine me $100 for failing to complete the form. I don't think that'll happen, but it's worth $100 to me to stand on the principle."</p><p>If you believe the people who respond to questions on ask.census.gov, your $100 is probably safe. I asked what the penalties are for failure to answer questions:</p><blockquote><div><p>You can find the penalties and offenses below, however, we have not pursued prosecution in the past.</p><p>From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access<br>[www.gpoaccess.gov]<br>[Laws in effect as of January 3, 2007]<br>[CITE: 13USC221]</p><p>TITLE 13--CENSUS</p><p>CHAPTER 7--OFFENSES AND PENALTIES</p><p>SUBCHAPTER II--OTHER PERSONS</p><p>Sec. 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers</p><p>(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully<br>neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized<br>officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency<br>thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized<br>officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions<br>on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey<br>provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title,<br>applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related,<br>or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall<br>be fined not more than $100.<br>(b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of<br>this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in<br>such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be<br>fined not more than $500.<br>(c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person<br>shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious<br>beliefs or to membership in a religious body.</p><p>(Aug. 31, 1954, ch. 1158, 68 Stat. 1023; Pub. L. 85-207, Sec. 15, Aug.<br>28, 1957, 71 Stat. 484; Pub. L. 94-521, Sec. 13, Oct. 17, 1976, 90 Stat.<br>2465.)</p><p>Historical and Revision Notes</p><p>Based on title 13, U.S.C., 1952 ed., Secs. 122, 209, and section<br>1442 of title 42, U.S.C., 1952 ed., The Public Health and Welfare (June<br>18, 1929, ch. 28, Sec. 9, 46 Stat. 23; June 19, 1948, ch. 502, Sec. 2,<br>62 Stat. 479; July 15, 1949, ch. 338, title VI, Sec. 607, 63 Stat. 441).<br>Section consolidates the first paragraph of section 209 of title 13,<br>U.S.C., 1952 ed., which section related to the decennial censuses of<br>population, agriculture, etc. (see subchapter II of chapter 5 of this<br>revised title), with that part of section 122 of such title which made<br>such section 209 applicable to the quinquennial censuses of<br>manufactures, the mineral industries, and other businesses (see<br>subchapter I of chapter 5 of this revised title) and applicable to the<br>surveys provided for by section 121(b) of such title (see subchapter IV<br>of chapter 5 of this revised title), and that part of subsection (b) of<br>section 1442 of title 42, U.S.C., 1952 ed., which made such section 209<br>applicable to the decennial censuses of housing (see subchapter II of<br>chapter 5 of this revised title). For remainder of sections 122 and 209<br>of title 13, U.S.C., 1952 ed., and of section 1442 of title 42, U.S.C.,<br>1952 ed. (which section has been transferred in its entirety to this<br>revised title), see Distribution Table.<br>The language of section 209 of title 13, U.S.C., 1952 ed., providing<br>that it should ``be the duty'' of all persons over eighteen years of<br>age, to answer correctly, to the best of their knowledge, when<br>requested, etc., was omitted as unnecessary and redundant. The<br>provisions, as herein revised, define offenses and prescribe penalties<br>for committing them, and are deemed sufficient for the purpose of<br>enforcement. However, some of the language used in the omitted<br>provisions was necessarily included in the description of the offense.<br>The designation of the first offense, herein described, as a<br>``misdemeanor'', was omitted as covered by section 1 of title 18,<br>U.S.C., 1952 ed., Crimes and Criminal Procedure, classifying crimes; and<br>words ``upon conviction thereof'' were omitted as surplusage.<br>References to the Secretary (of Commerce) and to any ``authorized<br>officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency<br>thereof'', etc., were substituted for references to the Director of the<br>Census and to any ``supervisor, enumerator, or special agent, or other<br>employee of the Census Office'', to conform with 1950 Reorganization<br>Plan No. 5, Secs. 1, 2, eff. May 24, 1950, 15 F.R. 3174, 64 Stat. 1263.<br>See revision note to section 4 of this title.<br>Changes were made in phraseology.</p><p>Amendments</p><p>1976--Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 94-521, Sec. 13(1), struck out provision<br>authorizing imprisonment for not more than sixty days for refusing or<br>willfully neglecting to answer questions under this section.<br>Subsec. (b). Pub. L. 94-521, Sec. 13(2), struck out provision<br>authorizing imprisonment for not more than one year for willfully giving<br>a false answer to a question under this section.<br>Subsec. (c). Pub. L. 94-521, Sec. 13(3), added subsec. (c).<br>1957--Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 85-207 substituted ``I, II, IV, and V''<br>for ``I, II, and IV''.</p><p>Effective Date of 1976 Amendment</p><p>Amendment by Pub. L. 94-521 effective Oct. 17, 1976, see section 17<br>of Pub. L. 94-521, set out as a note under section 1 of this title.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Per Title 13 , they could fine me $ 100 for failing to complete the form .
I do n't think that 'll happen , but it 's worth $ 100 to me to stand on the principle .
" If you believe the people who respond to questions on ask.census.gov , your $ 100 is probably safe .
I asked what the penalties are for failure to answer questions : You can find the penalties and offenses below , however , we have not pursued prosecution in the past.From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access [ www.gpoaccess.gov ] [ Laws in effect as of January 3 , 2007 ] [ CITE : 13USC221 ] TITLE 13--CENSUSCHAPTER 7--OFFENSES AND PENALTIESSUBCHAPTER II--OTHER PERSONSSec .
221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions ; false answers ( a ) Whoever , being over eighteen years of age , refuses or willfullyneglects , when requested by the Secretary , or by any other authorizedofficer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agencythereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorizedofficer , to answer , to the best of his knowledge , any of the questionson any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or surveyprovided for by subchapters I , II , IV , and V of chapter 5 of this title,applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related,or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant , shallbe fined not more than $ 100 .
( b ) Whoever , when answering questions described in subsection ( a ) ofthis section , and under the conditions or circumstances described insuch subsection , willfully gives any answer that is false , shall befined not more than $ 500 .
( c ) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title , no personshall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religiousbeliefs or to membership in a religious body. ( Aug .
31 , 1954 , ch .
1158 , 68 Stat .
1023 ; Pub .
L. 85-207 , Sec .
15 , Aug.28 , 1957 , 71 Stat .
484 ; Pub .
L. 94-521 , Sec .
13 , Oct. 17 , 1976 , 90 Stat.2465 .
) Historical and Revision NotesBased on title 13 , U.S.C. , 1952 ed. , Secs .
122 , 209 , and section1442 of title 42 , U.S.C. , 1952 ed. , The Public Health and Welfare ( June18 , 1929 , ch .
28 , Sec .
9 , 46 Stat .
23 ; June 19 , 1948 , ch .
502 , Sec .
2,62 Stat .
479 ; July 15 , 1949 , ch .
338 , title VI , Sec .
607 , 63 Stat .
441 ) .Section consolidates the first paragraph of section 209 of title 13,U.S.C. , 1952 ed. , which section related to the decennial censuses ofpopulation , agriculture , etc .
( see subchapter II of chapter 5 of thisrevised title ) , with that part of section 122 of such title which madesuch section 209 applicable to the quinquennial censuses ofmanufactures , the mineral industries , and other businesses ( seesubchapter I of chapter 5 of this revised title ) and applicable to thesurveys provided for by section 121 ( b ) of such title ( see subchapter IVof chapter 5 of this revised title ) , and that part of subsection ( b ) ofsection 1442 of title 42 , U.S.C. , 1952 ed. , which made such section 209applicable to the decennial censuses of housing ( see subchapter II ofchapter 5 of this revised title ) .
For remainder of sections 122 and 209of title 13 , U.S.C. , 1952 ed. , and of section 1442 of title 42 , U.S.C.,1952 ed .
( which section has been transferred in its entirety to thisrevised title ) , see Distribution Table.The language of section 209 of title 13 , U.S.C. , 1952 ed. , providingthat it should ` ` be the duty' ' of all persons over eighteen years ofage , to answer correctly , to the best of their knowledge , whenrequested , etc. , was omitted as unnecessary and redundant .
Theprovisions , as herein revised , define offenses and prescribe penaltiesfor committing them , and are deemed sufficient for the purpose ofenforcement .
However , some of the language used in the omittedprovisions was necessarily included in the description of the offense.The designation of the first offense , herein described , as a ` ` misdemeanor' ' , was omitted as covered by section 1 of title 18,U.S.C. , 1952 ed. , Crimes and Criminal Procedure , classifying crimes ; andwords ` ` upon conviction thereof' ' were omitted as surplusage.References to the Secretary ( of Commerce ) and to any ` ` authorizedofficer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agencythereof' ' , etc. , were substituted for references to the Director of theCensus and to any ` ` supervisor , enumerator , or special agent , or otheremployee of the Census Office' ' , to conform with 1950 ReorganizationPlan No .
5 , Secs .
1 , 2 , eff .
May 24 , 1950 , 15 F.R .
3174 , 64 Stat .
1263.See revision note to section 4 of this title.Changes were made in phraseology.Amendments1976--Subsec .
( a ) . Pub .
L. 94-521 , Sec .
13 ( 1 ) , struck out provisionauthorizing imprisonment for not more than sixty days for refusing orwillfully neglecting to answer questions under this section.Subsec .
( b ) . Pub .
L. 94-521 , Sec .
13 ( 2 ) , struck out provisionauthorizing imprisonment for not more than one year for willfully givinga false answer to a question under this section.Subsec .
( c ) . Pub .
L. 94-521 , Sec .
13 ( 3 ) , added subsec .
( c ) .1957--Subsec. ( a ) .
Pub. L. 85-207 substituted ` ` I , II , IV , and V''for ` ` I , II , and IV''.Effective Date of 1976 AmendmentAmendment by Pub .
L. 94-521 effective Oct. 17 , 1976 , see section 17of Pub .
L. 94-521 , set out as a note under section 1 of this title .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Per Title 13, they could fine me $100 for failing to complete the form.
I don't think that'll happen, but it's worth $100 to me to stand on the principle.
"If you believe the people who respond to questions on ask.census.gov, your $100 is probably safe.
I asked what the penalties are for failure to answer questions:You can find the penalties and offenses below, however, we have not pursued prosecution in the past.From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access[www.gpoaccess.gov][Laws in effect as of January 3, 2007][CITE: 13USC221]TITLE 13--CENSUSCHAPTER 7--OFFENSES AND PENALTIESSUBCHAPTER II--OTHER PERSONSSec.
221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfullyneglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorizedofficer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agencythereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorizedofficer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questionson any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or surveyprovided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title,applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related,or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shallbe fined not more than $100.
(b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) ofthis section, and under the conditions or circumstances described insuch subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall befined not more than $500.
(c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no personshall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religiousbeliefs or to membership in a religious body.(Aug.
31, 1954, ch.
1158, 68 Stat.
1023; Pub.
L. 85-207, Sec.
15, Aug.28, 1957, 71 Stat.
484; Pub.
L. 94-521, Sec.
13, Oct. 17, 1976, 90 Stat.2465.
)Historical and Revision NotesBased on title 13, U.S.C., 1952 ed., Secs.
122, 209, and section1442 of title 42, U.S.C., 1952 ed., The Public Health and Welfare (June18, 1929, ch.
28, Sec.
9, 46 Stat.
23; June 19, 1948, ch.
502, Sec.
2,62 Stat.
479; July 15, 1949, ch.
338, title VI, Sec.
607, 63 Stat.
441).Section consolidates the first paragraph of section 209 of title 13,U.S.C., 1952 ed., which section related to the decennial censuses ofpopulation, agriculture, etc.
(see subchapter II of chapter 5 of thisrevised title), with that part of section 122 of such title which madesuch section 209 applicable to the quinquennial censuses ofmanufactures, the mineral industries, and other businesses (seesubchapter I of chapter 5 of this revised title) and applicable to thesurveys provided for by section 121(b) of such title (see subchapter IVof chapter 5 of this revised title), and that part of subsection (b) ofsection 1442 of title 42, U.S.C., 1952 ed., which made such section 209applicable to the decennial censuses of housing (see subchapter II ofchapter 5 of this revised title).
For remainder of sections 122 and 209of title 13, U.S.C., 1952 ed., and of section 1442 of title 42, U.S.C.,1952 ed.
(which section has been transferred in its entirety to thisrevised title), see Distribution Table.The language of section 209 of title 13, U.S.C., 1952 ed., providingthat it should ``be the duty'' of all persons over eighteen years ofage, to answer correctly, to the best of their knowledge, whenrequested, etc., was omitted as unnecessary and redundant.
Theprovisions, as herein revised, define offenses and prescribe penaltiesfor committing them, and are deemed sufficient for the purpose ofenforcement.
However, some of the language used in the omittedprovisions was necessarily included in the description of the offense.The designation of the first offense, herein described, as a``misdemeanor'', was omitted as covered by section 1 of title 18,U.S.C., 1952 ed., Crimes and Criminal Procedure, classifying crimes; andwords ``upon conviction thereof'' were omitted as surplusage.References to the Secretary (of Commerce) and to any ``authorizedofficer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agencythereof'', etc., were substituted for references to the Director of theCensus and to any ``supervisor, enumerator, or special agent, or otheremployee of the Census Office'', to conform with 1950 ReorganizationPlan No.
5, Secs.
1, 2, eff.
May 24, 1950, 15 F.R.
3174, 64 Stat.
1263.See revision note to section 4 of this title.Changes were made in phraseology.Amendments1976--Subsec.
(a). Pub.
L. 94-521, Sec.
13(1), struck out provisionauthorizing imprisonment for not more than sixty days for refusing orwillfully neglecting to answer questions under this section.Subsec.
(b). Pub.
L. 94-521, Sec.
13(2), struck out provisionauthorizing imprisonment for not more than one year for willfully givinga false answer to a question under this section.Subsec.
(c). Pub.
L. 94-521, Sec.
13(3), added subsec.
(c).1957--Subsec. (a).
Pub. L. 85-207 substituted ``I, II, IV, and V''for ``I, II, and IV''.Effective Date of 1976 AmendmentAmendment by Pub.
L. 94-521 effective Oct. 17, 1976, see section 17of Pub.
L. 94-521, set out as a note under section 1 of this title.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612300</id>
	<title>Re:Only Box the Census Taker Will Check For Me is.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269537420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why does the federal government need to know anyone's race?  Think about this next statement really hard.  <b>No one (government, corporation, or individual) should be making decisions or forming opinions based on race.<b>  Income level and education level maybe but race?  Race does not determine your income level or education level.  The fact that many decisions are based on race is why we have racial tensions to begin with.  No one should care that we have a black president, an irish senator, a woman president (woman being an example, not a race), or a latino cabinet position.  It should not matter.  For the people that believe it does matter and celebrate a specific race at that position are themselves being racist and giving general acceptance that a persons race actually DOES matter.  So which is it, does race matter or not?  If you truly believe everyone is equal, why should it matter to you that someone of your same race reached or is holding a specific government position?</b></b></p><p><b><b>I am sick of reading headline like the \% of Latino out of jobs, the fact that they are Latino is not the reason they are out of jobs.  Simple stating that fact and entertaining the idea that it is related causes racial tensions and is implying that race is the reason.  How about, there are \% or american citizens out of jobs.  Yes they may be a "general trend" in some areas of the country that Latinos may hold a a larger percentage of certain types of jobs, if that job sector takes a hit, sure, more Latinos are affected but the reason is not because they are Latinos, it was that job sector that caused it.</b></b></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does the federal government need to know anyone 's race ?
Think about this next statement really hard .
No one ( government , corporation , or individual ) should be making decisions or forming opinions based on race .
Income level and education level maybe but race ?
Race does not determine your income level or education level .
The fact that many decisions are based on race is why we have racial tensions to begin with .
No one should care that we have a black president , an irish senator , a woman president ( woman being an example , not a race ) , or a latino cabinet position .
It should not matter .
For the people that believe it does matter and celebrate a specific race at that position are themselves being racist and giving general acceptance that a persons race actually DOES matter .
So which is it , does race matter or not ?
If you truly believe everyone is equal , why should it matter to you that someone of your same race reached or is holding a specific government position ? I am sick of reading headline like the \ % of Latino out of jobs , the fact that they are Latino is not the reason they are out of jobs .
Simple stating that fact and entertaining the idea that it is related causes racial tensions and is implying that race is the reason .
How about , there are \ % or american citizens out of jobs .
Yes they may be a " general trend " in some areas of the country that Latinos may hold a a larger percentage of certain types of jobs , if that job sector takes a hit , sure , more Latinos are affected but the reason is not because they are Latinos , it was that job sector that caused it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does the federal government need to know anyone's race?
Think about this next statement really hard.
No one (government, corporation, or individual) should be making decisions or forming opinions based on race.
Income level and education level maybe but race?
Race does not determine your income level or education level.
The fact that many decisions are based on race is why we have racial tensions to begin with.
No one should care that we have a black president, an irish senator, a woman president (woman being an example, not a race), or a latino cabinet position.
It should not matter.
For the people that believe it does matter and celebrate a specific race at that position are themselves being racist and giving general acceptance that a persons race actually DOES matter.
So which is it, does race matter or not?
If you truly believe everyone is equal, why should it matter to you that someone of your same race reached or is holding a specific government position?I am sick of reading headline like the \% of Latino out of jobs, the fact that they are Latino is not the reason they are out of jobs.
Simple stating that fact and entertaining the idea that it is related causes racial tensions and is implying that race is the reason.
How about, there are \% or american citizens out of jobs.
Yes they may be a "general trend" in some areas of the country that Latinos may hold a a larger percentage of certain types of jobs, if that job sector takes a hit, sure, more Latinos are affected but the reason is not because they are Latinos, it was that job sector that caused it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31619322</id>
	<title>WW2 internment camps were not just for japanese</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269519720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; White Male, 30<br>&gt; I don't have anything to worry about right?</p><p>It wasn't just Japanese-Americans that were put in internment<br>camps, they also put German-Americans in internment camps.<br>Last time I looked, German-Americans were white.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; White Male , 30 &gt; I do n't have anything to worry about right ? It was n't just Japanese-Americans that were put in internmentcamps , they also put German-Americans in internment camps.Last time I looked , German-Americans were white .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; White Male, 30&gt; I don't have anything to worry about right?It wasn't just Japanese-Americans that were put in internmentcamps, they also put German-Americans in internment camps.Last time I looked, German-Americans were white.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612034</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>Col. Klink (retired)</author>
	<datestamp>1269536640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Besides the obvious: what's your name, race and address there are no other questions.</p><p>There's this question:</p><blockquote><div><p>Is this house, apartment, or mobile home: owned with mortgage, owned without mortgage, rented, occupied without rent?</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Besides the obvious : what 's your name , race and address there are no other questions.There 's this question : Is this house , apartment , or mobile home : owned with mortgage , owned without mortgage , rented , occupied without rent ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Besides the obvious: what's your name, race and address there are no other questions.There's this question:Is this house, apartment, or mobile home: owned with mortgage, owned without mortgage, rented, occupied without rent?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614890</id>
	<title>Re:Census Info Ultimately Becomes Public</title>
	<author>tmosley</author>
	<datestamp>1269545400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't be so sure that you aren't a terrorist.  Redefining such words is a trademark of fascist societies, such as the one we now live under.  Speak up against a government policy, and you may well be labeled as an enemy combatant one day, and black bagged off to some torture chamber somewhere for the rest of your short, miserable life.  It has happened before, and it will happen again.  Indeed, it is happening as we speak.  Obama has done nothing to shut down the CIA's secret prisons.  At most, he has shut down some of the more well known ones, while expanding those that are not well known.<br> <br>

A hundred years from now, Bagram Air Base will be synonymous with Auschwitz.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't be so sure that you are n't a terrorist .
Redefining such words is a trademark of fascist societies , such as the one we now live under .
Speak up against a government policy , and you may well be labeled as an enemy combatant one day , and black bagged off to some torture chamber somewhere for the rest of your short , miserable life .
It has happened before , and it will happen again .
Indeed , it is happening as we speak .
Obama has done nothing to shut down the CIA 's secret prisons .
At most , he has shut down some of the more well known ones , while expanding those that are not well known .
A hundred years from now , Bagram Air Base will be synonymous with Auschwitz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't be so sure that you aren't a terrorist.
Redefining such words is a trademark of fascist societies, such as the one we now live under.
Speak up against a government policy, and you may well be labeled as an enemy combatant one day, and black bagged off to some torture chamber somewhere for the rest of your short, miserable life.
It has happened before, and it will happen again.
Indeed, it is happening as we speak.
Obama has done nothing to shut down the CIA's secret prisons.
At most, he has shut down some of the more well known ones, while expanding those that are not well known.
A hundred years from now, Bagram Air Base will be synonymous with Auschwitz.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610794</id>
	<title>I only answered the first question</title>
	<author>Low Ranked Craig</author>
	<datestamp>1269532800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And I suggest that you do the same.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And I suggest that you do the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I suggest that you do the same.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611458</id>
	<title>Like Hell You Do</title>
	<author>Petersko</author>
	<datestamp>1269534900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"But the thing about America is that we FIX problems when we realize that we made a mistake."</i> <br> <br>

Go on. Say that with a straight face.<br> <br>

<a href="http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/4-11-3/24168.html" title="theepochtimes.com">http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/4-11-3/24168.html</a> [theepochtimes.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>" But the thing about America is that we FIX problems when we realize that we made a mistake .
" Go on .
Say that with a straight face .
http : //www.theepochtimes.com/news/4-11-3/24168.html [ theepochtimes.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"But the thing about America is that we FIX problems when we realize that we made a mistake.
"  

Go on.
Say that with a straight face.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/4-11-3/24168.html [theepochtimes.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611034</id>
	<title>Birthdate IS one of the questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Question 7 http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Question 7 http : //2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Question 7 http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611112</id>
	<title>Re:Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure Michelle Malkin would have gone there:<br>http://www.amazon.com/Defense-Internment-Racial-Profiling-Terror/dp/0895260514</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure Michelle Malkin would have gone there : http : //www.amazon.com/Defense-Internment-Racial-Profiling-Terror/dp/0895260514</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure Michelle Malkin would have gone there:http://www.amazon.com/Defense-Internment-Racial-Profiling-Terror/dp/0895260514</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31616070</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269549480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What bullshit. The privacy protections regarding census answers were put in place AFTER the Japanese internment camps as a RESPONSE. This summary reads as is those protections were disregarded in that roundup, and then darkly speculates on what could have been after 9/11, if those privacy protections had been disregarded.</p><p>Slashdot isn't far from freerepublic these days, in political leaning or critical thinking.</p></div><p>It's now SlashKos.org.  What ever happened to the techno-libertarian crowd that used to hang out here, who actually valued, you know, Freedom and Liberty and stuff?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What bullshit .
The privacy protections regarding census answers were put in place AFTER the Japanese internment camps as a RESPONSE .
This summary reads as is those protections were disregarded in that roundup , and then darkly speculates on what could have been after 9/11 , if those privacy protections had been disregarded.Slashdot is n't far from freerepublic these days , in political leaning or critical thinking.It 's now SlashKos.org .
What ever happened to the techno-libertarian crowd that used to hang out here , who actually valued , you know , Freedom and Liberty and stuff ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What bullshit.
The privacy protections regarding census answers were put in place AFTER the Japanese internment camps as a RESPONSE.
This summary reads as is those protections were disregarded in that roundup, and then darkly speculates on what could have been after 9/11, if those privacy protections had been disregarded.Slashdot isn't far from freerepublic these days, in political leaning or critical thinking.It's now SlashKos.org.
What ever happened to the techno-libertarian crowd that used to hang out here, who actually valued, you know, Freedom and Liberty and stuff?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610714</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610632</id>
	<title>There are no other questions</title>
	<author>guruevi</author>
	<datestamp>1269532260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got the census papers. Besides the obvious: what's your name, race and address there are no other questions. I can lie about race if I wanted to because it's saying which race you consider yourself to be part of. I'm not a US citizen, yet I consider myself part of one of the races on the list. If you're afraid you're going to be corralled up, you could do the same thing, say you are "Other" or whatever is closest to your skin color (African-American/Negro (yes that's one of the options on there) for anyone not-white and not-native american)</p><p>All other questions (SSN, birth date, birth place) are not part of the census so if anyone asks they are not acting on behalf of the census office.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got the census papers .
Besides the obvious : what 's your name , race and address there are no other questions .
I can lie about race if I wanted to because it 's saying which race you consider yourself to be part of .
I 'm not a US citizen , yet I consider myself part of one of the races on the list .
If you 're afraid you 're going to be corralled up , you could do the same thing , say you are " Other " or whatever is closest to your skin color ( African-American/Negro ( yes that 's one of the options on there ) for anyone not-white and not-native american ) All other questions ( SSN , birth date , birth place ) are not part of the census so if anyone asks they are not acting on behalf of the census office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got the census papers.
Besides the obvious: what's your name, race and address there are no other questions.
I can lie about race if I wanted to because it's saying which race you consider yourself to be part of.
I'm not a US citizen, yet I consider myself part of one of the races on the list.
If you're afraid you're going to be corralled up, you could do the same thing, say you are "Other" or whatever is closest to your skin color (African-American/Negro (yes that's one of the options on there) for anyone not-white and not-native american)All other questions (SSN, birth date, birth place) are not part of the census so if anyone asks they are not acting on behalf of the census office.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611260</id>
	<title>Remember kids</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Happened before == will happen again<br>Slopes are always slippery<br>If it *can* be used for evil it *will* be, 100\% of the time, always!<br>The government really cares about *YOU* personally, and is out to get *YOU*</p><p>Slashdot... news for paranoid cynics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Happened before = = will happen againSlopes are always slipperyIf it * can * be used for evil it * will * be , 100 \ % of the time , always ! The government really cares about * YOU * personally , and is out to get * YOU * Slashdot... news for paranoid cynics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Happened before == will happen againSlopes are always slipperyIf it *can* be used for evil it *will* be, 100\% of the time, always!The government really cares about *YOU* personally, and is out to get *YOU*Slashdot... news for paranoid cynics.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31615098</id>
	<title>Privacy Act of 2013</title>
	<author>tmosley</author>
	<datestamp>1269546060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Privacy Act of 2013:  the Imperial Government of the American Empire hereby declares the Privacy Act of 1974 invalid.  All minorities are to report to death camp.  All white males are to report for re education and military training.  All women are to report to the nearest white baby farm where they are to serve the dual purpose of pleasing our Christian soldiers and ensuring the next generation.<br> <br>

A lot of crazy shit can happen in a very short time.  Germany went from a functioning democracy to Hell on earth in just a few short years.  There is no good reason for the government to have this much information about it's citizens.  The opportunities for misuse are endless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Privacy Act of 2013 : the Imperial Government of the American Empire hereby declares the Privacy Act of 1974 invalid .
All minorities are to report to death camp .
All white males are to report for re education and military training .
All women are to report to the nearest white baby farm where they are to serve the dual purpose of pleasing our Christian soldiers and ensuring the next generation .
A lot of crazy shit can happen in a very short time .
Germany went from a functioning democracy to Hell on earth in just a few short years .
There is no good reason for the government to have this much information about it 's citizens .
The opportunities for misuse are endless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Privacy Act of 2013:  the Imperial Government of the American Empire hereby declares the Privacy Act of 1974 invalid.
All minorities are to report to death camp.
All white males are to report for re education and military training.
All women are to report to the nearest white baby farm where they are to serve the dual purpose of pleasing our Christian soldiers and ensuring the next generation.
A lot of crazy shit can happen in a very short time.
Germany went from a functioning democracy to Hell on earth in just a few short years.
There is no good reason for the government to have this much information about it's citizens.
The opportunities for misuse are endless.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611320</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612276</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Col. Klink (retired)</author>
	<datestamp>1269537360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if you are a Nielson family in an undesirable demographic?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if you are a Nielson family in an undesirable demographic ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if you are a Nielson family in an undesirable demographic?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31616406</id>
	<title>Re:Will census data stay private?</title>
	<author>Sandbags</author>
	<datestamp>1269550500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't consider anything people can learn about me from simply looking at me from a distance is private in ANY way.</p><p>Across from me is a black family, 4 kids.  Next to me is an older white couple, never seen any kids.  Other side is a white family, 3 kids.  behind me is a middle aged single white woman with 2 big mean dogs, next door to her is an asian family who's ancient mother? lives with them.  Is any of this important?</p><p>The census does NOT ask you "what is your nation of origin" or "what is your religion" it asks "what is your race" and "what is your age".  The ONLY piece of data on that for of ANY concern is your name and phone number, and there are VERY specific laws about how that can NOT be used for anything other than the confirmation of census data.  It's also VERY clear in the law that this data WILL be released (in 70 years?) at which point it will be essentially useless to anyone other than genealogists.</p><p>The WHOLE PURPOSE of the census is to a) count you so you get enough representation in various congresses and b) help with districting lines so that you get adequate representation as a race and age group.  Would you like LESS representation?  Don't fucking vote.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't consider anything people can learn about me from simply looking at me from a distance is private in ANY way.Across from me is a black family , 4 kids .
Next to me is an older white couple , never seen any kids .
Other side is a white family , 3 kids .
behind me is a middle aged single white woman with 2 big mean dogs , next door to her is an asian family who 's ancient mother ?
lives with them .
Is any of this important ? The census does NOT ask you " what is your nation of origin " or " what is your religion " it asks " what is your race " and " what is your age " .
The ONLY piece of data on that for of ANY concern is your name and phone number , and there are VERY specific laws about how that can NOT be used for anything other than the confirmation of census data .
It 's also VERY clear in the law that this data WILL be released ( in 70 years ?
) at which point it will be essentially useless to anyone other than genealogists.The WHOLE PURPOSE of the census is to a ) count you so you get enough representation in various congresses and b ) help with districting lines so that you get adequate representation as a race and age group .
Would you like LESS representation ?
Do n't fucking vote .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't consider anything people can learn about me from simply looking at me from a distance is private in ANY way.Across from me is a black family, 4 kids.
Next to me is an older white couple, never seen any kids.
Other side is a white family, 3 kids.
behind me is a middle aged single white woman with 2 big mean dogs, next door to her is an asian family who's ancient mother?
lives with them.
Is any of this important?The census does NOT ask you "what is your nation of origin" or "what is your religion" it asks "what is your race" and "what is your age".
The ONLY piece of data on that for of ANY concern is your name and phone number, and there are VERY specific laws about how that can NOT be used for anything other than the confirmation of census data.
It's also VERY clear in the law that this data WILL be released (in 70 years?
) at which point it will be essentially useless to anyone other than genealogists.The WHOLE PURPOSE of the census is to a) count you so you get enough representation in various congresses and b) help with districting lines so that you get adequate representation as a race and age group.
Would you like LESS representation?
Don't fucking vote.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610654</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612250</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269537300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your hypothetical example only makes me want to withhold information even more.  The purpose of Neilsen ratings (and tv in general) is to find the best way to target advertising.  I don't like advertising as it promotes over consumption and indulgence, part of the problem that brought on the financial collapse.  And I don't like any entity (gov't or otherwise) to have too much information (they have plenty already) so why should we make it easier for a potentially corrupt to have that information (power) to manhandle in the worst of times?</p><p>There are numerous organizations and groups talking to law makers on behalf of races, genders, and other minorities... if the message isn't being heard from them, then why would the proverbial light-bulb suddenly go on upon looking at a census report?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your hypothetical example only makes me want to withhold information even more .
The purpose of Neilsen ratings ( and tv in general ) is to find the best way to target advertising .
I do n't like advertising as it promotes over consumption and indulgence , part of the problem that brought on the financial collapse .
And I do n't like any entity ( gov't or otherwise ) to have too much information ( they have plenty already ) so why should we make it easier for a potentially corrupt to have that information ( power ) to manhandle in the worst of times ? There are numerous organizations and groups talking to law makers on behalf of races , genders , and other minorities... if the message is n't being heard from them , then why would the proverbial light-bulb suddenly go on upon looking at a census report ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your hypothetical example only makes me want to withhold information even more.
The purpose of Neilsen ratings (and tv in general) is to find the best way to target advertising.
I don't like advertising as it promotes over consumption and indulgence, part of the problem that brought on the financial collapse.
And I don't like any entity (gov't or otherwise) to have too much information (they have plenty already) so why should we make it easier for a potentially corrupt to have that information (power) to manhandle in the worst of times?There are numerous organizations and groups talking to law makers on behalf of races, genders, and other minorities... if the message isn't being heard from them, then why would the proverbial light-bulb suddenly go on upon looking at a census report?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610748</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614024</id>
	<title>Race: Other</title>
	<author>N1ck0</author>
	<datestamp>1269542640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone should select other and either enter:<br>- Enter N/A<br>- Make up your own race name, in fact recruit all your friends to<br>- Enter your favorite Sci-Fi reference (Mon Calamari, Klingon, Peacekeeper, Replicator, Troll, Kobold, Half-Elf, Member of the MacLeod cloud, Freman, etc.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone should select other and either enter : - Enter N/A- Make up your own race name , in fact recruit all your friends to- Enter your favorite Sci-Fi reference ( Mon Calamari , Klingon , Peacekeeper , Replicator , Troll , Kobold , Half-Elf , Member of the MacLeod cloud , Freman , etc .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone should select other and either enter:- Enter N/A- Make up your own race name, in fact recruit all your friends to- Enter your favorite Sci-Fi reference (Mon Calamari, Klingon, Peacekeeper, Replicator, Troll, Kobold, Half-Elf, Member of the MacLeod cloud, Freman, etc.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613544</id>
	<title>Barn Door Locking</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1269541320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm pretty sure AT&amp;T already gave all our information over to the Feds already.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure AT&amp;T already gave all our information over to the Feds already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure AT&amp;T already gave all our information over to the Feds already.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612698</id>
	<title>affirmative action anyone?</title>
	<author>arclyte</author>
	<datestamp>1269538680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Has no one ever heard of affirmative action?

I've heard many of the arguments I'm reading here come from the lips of freshman college students, but really, I'd expect more informed views from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. readers.  I know, stupid of me to do that...

Among many other uses, the government needs to know racial demographics so that they can try to make sure the government isn't discriminating.  If we don't know how many blacks, whites, asians, native americans, etc. there are or where they're located (generally, not necessarily down to the address level) it makes it difficult to appropriate resources and make sure that things are distributed fairly.  The sad part is that the paranoia surrounding the census generally tends to make those who need the services most less likely to fill out the census, thus skewing the picture even further.

Do you not understand the trickle down effect of this data?  It's used to move funds around and to make decisions about who gets what out of the gov't coffers, or what's left over after all of the corporate payouts and military contracts anyway.  Is there potential for abuse?  Hells yes!  Has it been abused?  Of course!  Is the census the answer to life, the universe and everything?  No.  But how can we have any hope of the government operating by and for the people if it has no clue who these people are?

Saying "just fill out the number of people, nothing else" is just bullshit and ignorance and it saddens me to see that posted on here as if it's something that should be taken as a serious and informed opinion.  There are real problems to be discussed regarding the census and there are vast improvements to be made to it, but spreading FUD about what it is and what it's used for just takes as further away from discussing the real issues and does more harm than good.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Has no one ever heard of affirmative action ?
I 've heard many of the arguments I 'm reading here come from the lips of freshman college students , but really , I 'd expect more informed views from / .
readers. I know , stupid of me to do that.. . Among many other uses , the government needs to know racial demographics so that they can try to make sure the government is n't discriminating .
If we do n't know how many blacks , whites , asians , native americans , etc .
there are or where they 're located ( generally , not necessarily down to the address level ) it makes it difficult to appropriate resources and make sure that things are distributed fairly .
The sad part is that the paranoia surrounding the census generally tends to make those who need the services most less likely to fill out the census , thus skewing the picture even further .
Do you not understand the trickle down effect of this data ?
It 's used to move funds around and to make decisions about who gets what out of the gov't coffers , or what 's left over after all of the corporate payouts and military contracts anyway .
Is there potential for abuse ?
Hells yes !
Has it been abused ?
Of course !
Is the census the answer to life , the universe and everything ?
No. But how can we have any hope of the government operating by and for the people if it has no clue who these people are ?
Saying " just fill out the number of people , nothing else " is just bullshit and ignorance and it saddens me to see that posted on here as if it 's something that should be taken as a serious and informed opinion .
There are real problems to be discussed regarding the census and there are vast improvements to be made to it , but spreading FUD about what it is and what it 's used for just takes as further away from discussing the real issues and does more harm than good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has no one ever heard of affirmative action?
I've heard many of the arguments I'm reading here come from the lips of freshman college students, but really, I'd expect more informed views from /.
readers.  I know, stupid of me to do that...

Among many other uses, the government needs to know racial demographics so that they can try to make sure the government isn't discriminating.
If we don't know how many blacks, whites, asians, native americans, etc.
there are or where they're located (generally, not necessarily down to the address level) it makes it difficult to appropriate resources and make sure that things are distributed fairly.
The sad part is that the paranoia surrounding the census generally tends to make those who need the services most less likely to fill out the census, thus skewing the picture even further.
Do you not understand the trickle down effect of this data?
It's used to move funds around and to make decisions about who gets what out of the gov't coffers, or what's left over after all of the corporate payouts and military contracts anyway.
Is there potential for abuse?
Hells yes!
Has it been abused?
Of course!
Is the census the answer to life, the universe and everything?
No.  But how can we have any hope of the government operating by and for the people if it has no clue who these people are?
Saying "just fill out the number of people, nothing else" is just bullshit and ignorance and it saddens me to see that posted on here as if it's something that should be taken as a serious and informed opinion.
There are real problems to be discussed regarding the census and there are vast improvements to be made to it, but spreading FUD about what it is and what it's used for just takes as further away from discussing the real issues and does more harm than good.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611224</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not filling it out is even more ridiculous than that, considering that they only ask you name/address/phone number/race.  No country of origin (though obviously you can figure that out for some races e.g. Japanese), no financial information, no nothing else.  Even for the race thing there isn't even an Arab box, just Other Asian or just Other.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not filling it out is even more ridiculous than that , considering that they only ask you name/address/phone number/race .
No country of origin ( though obviously you can figure that out for some races e.g .
Japanese ) , no financial information , no nothing else .
Even for the race thing there is n't even an Arab box , just Other Asian or just Other .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not filling it out is even more ridiculous than that, considering that they only ask you name/address/phone number/race.
No country of origin (though obviously you can figure that out for some races e.g.
Japanese), no financial information, no nothing else.
Even for the race thing there isn't even an Arab box, just Other Asian or just Other.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611746</id>
	<title>"policies have undermined public faith"</title>
	<author>hduff</author>
	<datestamp>1269535800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"... the nation's political leaders should recognize how their policies have undermined public faith in government<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."</p><p>They know.</p><p>They don't care.</p><p>Especially when their jobs are threatened by a war, terrorist act, economic disaster or election and they have the power to get away with it.</p><p>Look at the bad, anti-social, rights-violating behavior of the police which undermines public faith in them, yet they continue to behave in bad ways BECAUSE THEY CAN.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ... the nation 's political leaders should recognize how their policies have undermined public faith in government ... " They know.They do n't care.Especially when their jobs are threatened by a war , terrorist act , economic disaster or election and they have the power to get away with it.Look at the bad , anti-social , rights-violating behavior of the police which undermines public faith in them , yet they continue to behave in bad ways BECAUSE THEY CAN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"... the nation's political leaders should recognize how their policies have undermined public faith in government ..."They know.They don't care.Especially when their jobs are threatened by a war, terrorist act, economic disaster or election and they have the power to get away with it.Look at the bad, anti-social, rights-violating behavior of the police which undermines public faith in them, yet they continue to behave in bad ways BECAUSE THEY CAN.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612958</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269539400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt. know as much about the people they represent as possible.</b> <br>
<br>
Ahahahahahahaahahaaa.<br>
<br>
Heh.  &gt;snrrrrrrk&lt;<br>
<br>
&gt;ahem&lt;<br>
<br>
Just - No.  I have never, in my entire life, found anything but a clear <b>inverse</b> relationship between "government information
about me" and "my interests".<br>
<br>
They use my gender to threaten me for opposing the SSA.  They use my age to dictate when I can drive, when I can drink, when I can
die in a pissing match between old men, and when I can retire.  They use my address to decide how much <b>I</b> have to pay for my
<i>neighbors'</i> brats to go to their daily socialized babysitting.  They use my race to deny me access to various funds because,
regardless of <b>my</b> situation, people of my skin color haven't suffered enough in the past 200 years.  They use my phone number
to piss me off at dinner time every election season.<br>
<br>
The one bit of information they have the authority to collect, an "enumeration" of the citizenry, I will gladly answer so my state
can have the right number of asshats I've never met hanging out in DC strip clubs while deciding how to slice us up and serve us to
their corporate owners.  The rest of it, they can charge me my $100 (which hasn't happened since 1970, when the courts overturned
exactly such a fine) and go pound sand.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt .
know as much about the people they represent as possible .
Ahahahahahahaahahaaa . Heh .
&gt; snrrrrrrk &gt; ahem Just - No .
I have never , in my entire life , found anything but a clear inverse relationship between " government information about me " and " my interests " .
They use my gender to threaten me for opposing the SSA .
They use my age to dictate when I can drive , when I can drink , when I can die in a pissing match between old men , and when I can retire .
They use my address to decide how much I have to pay for my neighbors ' brats to go to their daily socialized babysitting .
They use my race to deny me access to various funds because , regardless of my situation , people of my skin color have n't suffered enough in the past 200 years .
They use my phone number to piss me off at dinner time every election season .
The one bit of information they have the authority to collect , an " enumeration " of the citizenry , I will gladly answer so my state can have the right number of asshats I 've never met hanging out in DC strip clubs while deciding how to slice us up and serve us to their corporate owners .
The rest of it , they can charge me my $ 100 ( which has n't happened since 1970 , when the courts overturned exactly such a fine ) and go pound sand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt.
know as much about the people they represent as possible.
Ahahahahahahaahahaaa.

Heh.
&gt;snrrrrrrk

&gt;ahem

Just - No.
I have never, in my entire life, found anything but a clear inverse relationship between "government information
about me" and "my interests".
They use my gender to threaten me for opposing the SSA.
They use my age to dictate when I can drive, when I can drink, when I can
die in a pissing match between old men, and when I can retire.
They use my address to decide how much I have to pay for my
neighbors' brats to go to their daily socialized babysitting.
They use my race to deny me access to various funds because,
regardless of my situation, people of my skin color haven't suffered enough in the past 200 years.
They use my phone number
to piss me off at dinner time every election season.
The one bit of information they have the authority to collect, an "enumeration" of the citizenry, I will gladly answer so my state
can have the right number of asshats I've never met hanging out in DC strip clubs while deciding how to slice us up and serve us to
their corporate owners.
The rest of it, they can charge me my $100 (which hasn't happened since 1970, when the courts overturned
exactly such a fine) and go pound sand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31616234</id>
	<title>Re:Just One Race -- American</title>
	<author>ishobo</author>
	<datestamp>1269549960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Census has asked about race since 1850. American is not considered a race by biologists.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Census has asked about race since 1850 .
American is not considered a race by biologists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Census has asked about race since 1850.
American is not considered a race by biologists.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611190</id>
	<title>Re:Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>smooth wombat</author>
	<datestamp>1269534180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><em>Do you have a single shred of proof for this or are you basically a Truther or Birther at heart, with nothing but paranoia to offer us?</em>

<br> <br>

I refer you to <a href="http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2010/03/24/uses-and-abuses-of-the-census/" title="amconmag.com">this article</a> [amconmag.com] from, wait for it, <a href="http://www.amconmag.com/" title="amconmag.com">The American Conservative</a> [amconmag.com].  Read the last paragraph.  Here is the relevant part:

<br> <br>

<em>Such information could have made it far easier to carry out the type of mass roundup that some conservatives advocated. </em>

<br> <br>

And while we're on the subject of rounding up people, here's <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/20/gallagher-damon-olbermann/" title="thinkprogress.org">a neat goodie</a> [thinkprogress.org] to show the mindset of at least one "conservative" and how they value American freedoms.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you have a single shred of proof for this or are you basically a Truther or Birther at heart , with nothing but paranoia to offer us ?
I refer you to this article [ amconmag.com ] from , wait for it , The American Conservative [ amconmag.com ] .
Read the last paragraph .
Here is the relevant part : Such information could have made it far easier to carry out the type of mass roundup that some conservatives advocated .
And while we 're on the subject of rounding up people , here 's a neat goodie [ thinkprogress.org ] to show the mindset of at least one " conservative " and how they value American freedoms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you have a single shred of proof for this or are you basically a Truther or Birther at heart, with nothing but paranoia to offer us?
I refer you to this article [amconmag.com] from, wait for it, The American Conservative [amconmag.com].
Read the last paragraph.
Here is the relevant part:

 

Such information could have made it far easier to carry out the type of mass roundup that some conservatives advocated.
And while we're on the subject of rounding up people, here's a neat goodie [thinkprogress.org] to show the mindset of at least one "conservative" and how they value American freedoms.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610664</id>
	<title>Sure it could happen...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course the government could abuse that information, but what is the record like? Besides 1940, are there any other situations where the data was used to locate an individual? The 2003 situation mentioned is <em>not</em> an abuse. Providing demographic information is standard operating procedure for the Census Bureau, and a lot of good can be done with that information.</p><p>So if 1940 is the only case of census information being used to locate individuals, I'd say their record is pretty good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course the government could abuse that information , but what is the record like ?
Besides 1940 , are there any other situations where the data was used to locate an individual ?
The 2003 situation mentioned is not an abuse .
Providing demographic information is standard operating procedure for the Census Bureau , and a lot of good can be done with that information.So if 1940 is the only case of census information being used to locate individuals , I 'd say their record is pretty good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course the government could abuse that information, but what is the record like?
Besides 1940, are there any other situations where the data was used to locate an individual?
The 2003 situation mentioned is not an abuse.
Providing demographic information is standard operating procedure for the Census Bureau, and a lot of good can be done with that information.So if 1940 is the only case of census information being used to locate individuals, I'd say their record is pretty good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613554</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>ConceptJunkie</author>
	<datestamp>1269541380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So if I don't tell the government I'm a white person they might get rid of white people?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So if I do n't tell the government I 'm a white person they might get rid of white people ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if I don't tell the government I'm a white person they might get rid of white people?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610832</id>
	<title>Link to article...</title>
	<author>terrywin</author>
	<datestamp>1269532920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0324/The-2010-Census-Will-your-answers-stay-private" title="csmonitor.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0324/The-2010-Census-Will-your-answers-stay-private</a> [csmonitor.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0324/The-2010-Census-Will-your-answers-stay-private [ csmonitor.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0324/The-2010-Census-Will-your-answers-stay-private [csmonitor.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611744</id>
	<title>Re:Did you catch The Daily Show and Colbert Report</title>
	<author>schwanerhill</author>
	<datestamp>1269535800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I don't care how many times pundits from the Census Bureau muck it up with our lord Jon and savior Steven they aren't going to convince me to answer 10 questions on a census. There is only one question I will answer on that stupid form, and if that lumps me in with the "evil" conservatives, so be it.</p></div></blockquote><p>Have you actually read the <a href="http://2010.census.gov/2010census/text/text-form.php" title="census.gov">10 questions</a> [census.gov]?</p><p>Questions 1, 2, 5, and 10 are all simply checks to make sure that the respondent really did, indeed, list all residents of the household (which isn't straightforward in all cases -- think roommates at college, for example).</p><p>Questions 6, 7, and 9 have all been asked since either 1790 or 1800 and are basic profiling questions. Don't like it? Complain to the almighty Founding Fathers. Question 8 (are you Hispanic) is necessary to make question 7 (race) make sense in a modern world.</p><p>Question 3 (your phone number) is to allow easy follow-up; if you don't include it, I don't think the bureau will care unless there's something they can't understand with your report (illegible handwriting, most likely), in which case they'll have to knock on your door to fix it (which costs far, far more of your tax dollars than a phone call).</p><p>Question 4, which has been asked since 1890, is the only one that I agree isn't really necessary.</p><p>The ten minutes the Census Bureau says this form will take is a gross exaggeration. Two is more like it -- far more than it took me to write this response or you to complain about it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care how many times pundits from the Census Bureau muck it up with our lord Jon and savior Steven they are n't going to convince me to answer 10 questions on a census .
There is only one question I will answer on that stupid form , and if that lumps me in with the " evil " conservatives , so be it.Have you actually read the 10 questions [ census.gov ] ? Questions 1 , 2 , 5 , and 10 are all simply checks to make sure that the respondent really did , indeed , list all residents of the household ( which is n't straightforward in all cases -- think roommates at college , for example ) .Questions 6 , 7 , and 9 have all been asked since either 1790 or 1800 and are basic profiling questions .
Do n't like it ?
Complain to the almighty Founding Fathers .
Question 8 ( are you Hispanic ) is necessary to make question 7 ( race ) make sense in a modern world.Question 3 ( your phone number ) is to allow easy follow-up ; if you do n't include it , I do n't think the bureau will care unless there 's something they ca n't understand with your report ( illegible handwriting , most likely ) , in which case they 'll have to knock on your door to fix it ( which costs far , far more of your tax dollars than a phone call ) .Question 4 , which has been asked since 1890 , is the only one that I agree is n't really necessary.The ten minutes the Census Bureau says this form will take is a gross exaggeration .
Two is more like it -- far more than it took me to write this response or you to complain about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care how many times pundits from the Census Bureau muck it up with our lord Jon and savior Steven they aren't going to convince me to answer 10 questions on a census.
There is only one question I will answer on that stupid form, and if that lumps me in with the "evil" conservatives, so be it.Have you actually read the 10 questions [census.gov]?Questions 1, 2, 5, and 10 are all simply checks to make sure that the respondent really did, indeed, list all residents of the household (which isn't straightforward in all cases -- think roommates at college, for example).Questions 6, 7, and 9 have all been asked since either 1790 or 1800 and are basic profiling questions.
Don't like it?
Complain to the almighty Founding Fathers.
Question 8 (are you Hispanic) is necessary to make question 7 (race) make sense in a modern world.Question 3 (your phone number) is to allow easy follow-up; if you don't include it, I don't think the bureau will care unless there's something they can't understand with your report (illegible handwriting, most likely), in which case they'll have to knock on your door to fix it (which costs far, far more of your tax dollars than a phone call).Question 4, which has been asked since 1890, is the only one that I agree isn't really necessary.The ten minutes the Census Bureau says this form will take is a gross exaggeration.
Two is more like it -- far more than it took me to write this response or you to complain about it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613920</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Abcd1234</author>
	<datestamp>1269542340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I find baffling is what seems to be happening to the CSM these days.  I've had the CSM in my RSS feed reader for quite a while, now, and lately they seem to be posting a lot more right-wing blow-hard punditry, including this article.  It's really incredibly disappointing...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I find baffling is what seems to be happening to the CSM these days .
I 've had the CSM in my RSS feed reader for quite a while , now , and lately they seem to be posting a lot more right-wing blow-hard punditry , including this article .
It 's really incredibly disappointing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I find baffling is what seems to be happening to the CSM these days.
I've had the CSM in my RSS feed reader for quite a while, now, and lately they seem to be posting a lot more right-wing blow-hard punditry, including this article.
It's really incredibly disappointing...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612148</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>Mab\_Mass</author>
	<datestamp>1269536940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Give it rest guys. Your claims don't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny. The interment camps were nearly seventy years ago. We've learned since then.</p></div>
</blockquote><p> Let's hope you're right.  Personally, I still wonder if one of the reasons that it hasn't happened since is that there hasn't been the same scale of war since then.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Give it rest guys .
Your claims do n't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny .
The interment camps were nearly seventy years ago .
We 've learned since then .
Let 's hope you 're right .
Personally , I still wonder if one of the reasons that it has n't happened since is that there has n't been the same scale of war since then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give it rest guys.
Your claims don't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny.
The interment camps were nearly seventy years ago.
We've learned since then.
Let's hope you're right.
Personally, I still wonder if one of the reasons that it hasn't happened since is that there hasn't been the same scale of war since then.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611834</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>cmiller173</author>
	<datestamp>1269536040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And here they are: <a href="http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downloads/ACS-1(info)(2010)\%20Stateside\%20English\_web.pdf" title="census.gov">http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downloads/ACS-1(info)(2010)\%20Stateside\%20English\_web.pdf</a> [census.gov]</htmltext>
<tokenext>And here they are : http : //www.census.gov/acs/www/Downloads/ACS-1 ( info ) ( 2010 ) \ % 20Stateside \ % 20English \ _web.pdf [ census.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And here they are: http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downloads/ACS-1(info)(2010)\%20Stateside\%20English\_web.pdf [census.gov]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611496</id>
	<title>Not just conservatives</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269535020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"that some conservatives advocated."</p><p>Bullshit.  You got proof, evidence that it was ONLY conservatives?</p><p>THIS is the problem we have with opinions these days, such as has been going on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. with the editors for years.</p><p>Howard Stern, a self-described independent (and you can view him certainly as having conservative and liberal standpoints), in the days (if not the day) following the 9/11 attacks, didn't have a real problem with Japanese internment camps when the topic came up.  This was openly on the radio.</p><p>"Conservatives" get the heat for this most of the time, but I've talked with small town registered Democrats and liberals, who didn't really see 'a problem' with the Japanese internment camps.</p><p>btw, THE ONLY TIME IT HAPPENED, which party was in power at the time of the Japanese internment camps?  I seem to recall FDR and he was a Democrat.  What was the Congress?  Didn't he threaten SCOTUS with new members, so I'd venture that he had Congressional Dem support as well.  To color the political parties broadly as the editor and story poster thought suitable, seems the conservatives might discuss the issue but not carry through, while the Democrats would with little discussion, rights be damned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" that some conservatives advocated. " Bullshit .
You got proof , evidence that it was ONLY conservatives ? THIS is the problem we have with opinions these days , such as has been going on / .
with the editors for years.Howard Stern , a self-described independent ( and you can view him certainly as having conservative and liberal standpoints ) , in the days ( if not the day ) following the 9/11 attacks , did n't have a real problem with Japanese internment camps when the topic came up .
This was openly on the radio .
" Conservatives " get the heat for this most of the time , but I 've talked with small town registered Democrats and liberals , who did n't really see 'a problem ' with the Japanese internment camps.btw , THE ONLY TIME IT HAPPENED , which party was in power at the time of the Japanese internment camps ?
I seem to recall FDR and he was a Democrat .
What was the Congress ?
Did n't he threaten SCOTUS with new members , so I 'd venture that he had Congressional Dem support as well .
To color the political parties broadly as the editor and story poster thought suitable , seems the conservatives might discuss the issue but not carry through , while the Democrats would with little discussion , rights be damned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"that some conservatives advocated."Bullshit.
You got proof, evidence that it was ONLY conservatives?THIS is the problem we have with opinions these days, such as has been going on /.
with the editors for years.Howard Stern, a self-described independent (and you can view him certainly as having conservative and liberal standpoints), in the days (if not the day) following the 9/11 attacks, didn't have a real problem with Japanese internment camps when the topic came up.
This was openly on the radio.
"Conservatives" get the heat for this most of the time, but I've talked with small town registered Democrats and liberals, who didn't really see 'a problem' with the Japanese internment camps.btw, THE ONLY TIME IT HAPPENED, which party was in power at the time of the Japanese internment camps?
I seem to recall FDR and he was a Democrat.
What was the Congress?
Didn't he threaten SCOTUS with new members, so I'd venture that he had Congressional Dem support as well.
To color the political parties broadly as the editor and story poster thought suitable, seems the conservatives might discuss the issue but not carry through, while the Democrats would with little discussion, rights be damned.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612770</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269538860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are wrong. The census does ask birth date. See http://2010.census.gov/2010census/text/text-form.php</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are wrong .
The census does ask birth date .
See http : //2010.census.gov/2010census/text/text-form.php</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are wrong.
The census does ask birth date.
See http://2010.census.gov/2010census/text/text-form.php</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614710</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>tmosley</author>
	<datestamp>1269544860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok, why do they need my phone number?  Are they going to call me to ask me some more questions that I get shot for not answering?  That is the final result of resistance to this form.  They bring someone out to arrest you for not paying the fine imposed for not filling it out, you resist, and are shot to death resisting arrest.<br> <br>

If something is a law, it better be something that is worth being shot for violating, because that is the end result of all resistance to the government.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , why do they need my phone number ?
Are they going to call me to ask me some more questions that I get shot for not answering ?
That is the final result of resistance to this form .
They bring someone out to arrest you for not paying the fine imposed for not filling it out , you resist , and are shot to death resisting arrest .
If something is a law , it better be something that is worth being shot for violating , because that is the end result of all resistance to the government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, why do they need my phone number?
Are they going to call me to ask me some more questions that I get shot for not answering?
That is the final result of resistance to this form.
They bring someone out to arrest you for not paying the fine imposed for not filling it out, you resist, and are shot to death resisting arrest.
If something is a law, it better be something that is worth being shot for violating, because that is the end result of all resistance to the government.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611482</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory</title>
	<author>brkello</author>
	<datestamp>1269534960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just because Ayn Rand says something, doesn't make it true.  I could say "Civilization is the progress toward a society of openness.  The savage's whole existence is private, ruled by its darkest thoughts and back room deals.  Civilization is the process of bringing things in to the open so that man can not subject men to tyranny."<br> <br>When you have a country/world willing to post all their info online, there is no problem with privacy because no one cares any more.  There are plenty of good reasons to want privacy...but you aren't going to be convincing anyone quoting Ayn Rand.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just because Ayn Rand says something , does n't make it true .
I could say " Civilization is the progress toward a society of openness .
The savage 's whole existence is private , ruled by its darkest thoughts and back room deals .
Civilization is the process of bringing things in to the open so that man can not subject men to tyranny .
" When you have a country/world willing to post all their info online , there is no problem with privacy because no one cares any more .
There are plenty of good reasons to want privacy...but you are n't going to be convincing anyone quoting Ayn Rand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just because Ayn Rand says something, doesn't make it true.
I could say "Civilization is the progress toward a society of openness.
The savage's whole existence is private, ruled by its darkest thoughts and back room deals.
Civilization is the process of bringing things in to the open so that man can not subject men to tyranny.
" When you have a country/world willing to post all their info online, there is no problem with privacy because no one cares any more.
There are plenty of good reasons to want privacy...but you aren't going to be convincing anyone quoting Ayn Rand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611150</id>
	<title>Re:Only Box the Census Taker Will Check For Me is.</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1269534120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This may be funny, but how much did guns help the kids who were murdered, by which side is up for debate, at the so-called Branch Davidian at Waco.  As much as the NRA wants us to believe they are protectors of the seconds amendment, they are really just maintaining the right for overgrown kids to keep their toys.  They have caved in on the right of the average American to keep any kind of real defense.
<p>
In fact checking the gun box would merely tell the government who to take out first in the event that, according to right wing mythology, FEMA and the president were to declare <a href="http://www.tv.com/sealab-2021/der-dieb/episode/160872/summary.html" title="tv.com">martian law</a> [tv.com].
</p><p>
To be serious, and I am no defender of US atrocities, the two cases cited hardly indicate a trend.  The first happened in a genuine time of war, and in this case people do go crazy.  In the second case, it does not seem that any personal information was released, so while violating the spirit of the promise, it is hard to say if it violated the actual intention.  When we talk about releasing personal information, at least in todays terms, we are probably taking about specifics on undocumented people in the US or same sex couples living together, or the like.  I can go to the census web site and get a demographic profile of each region if I so wanted, so that is pretty much public information.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This may be funny , but how much did guns help the kids who were murdered , by which side is up for debate , at the so-called Branch Davidian at Waco .
As much as the NRA wants us to believe they are protectors of the seconds amendment , they are really just maintaining the right for overgrown kids to keep their toys .
They have caved in on the right of the average American to keep any kind of real defense .
In fact checking the gun box would merely tell the government who to take out first in the event that , according to right wing mythology , FEMA and the president were to declare martian law [ tv.com ] .
To be serious , and I am no defender of US atrocities , the two cases cited hardly indicate a trend .
The first happened in a genuine time of war , and in this case people do go crazy .
In the second case , it does not seem that any personal information was released , so while violating the spirit of the promise , it is hard to say if it violated the actual intention .
When we talk about releasing personal information , at least in todays terms , we are probably taking about specifics on undocumented people in the US or same sex couples living together , or the like .
I can go to the census web site and get a demographic profile of each region if I so wanted , so that is pretty much public information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This may be funny, but how much did guns help the kids who were murdered, by which side is up for debate, at the so-called Branch Davidian at Waco.
As much as the NRA wants us to believe they are protectors of the seconds amendment, they are really just maintaining the right for overgrown kids to keep their toys.
They have caved in on the right of the average American to keep any kind of real defense.
In fact checking the gun box would merely tell the government who to take out first in the event that, according to right wing mythology, FEMA and the president were to declare martian law [tv.com].
To be serious, and I am no defender of US atrocities, the two cases cited hardly indicate a trend.
The first happened in a genuine time of war, and in this case people do go crazy.
In the second case, it does not seem that any personal information was released, so while violating the spirit of the promise, it is hard to say if it violated the actual intention.
When we talk about releasing personal information, at least in todays terms, we are probably taking about specifics on undocumented people in the US or same sex couples living together, or the like.
I can go to the census web site and get a demographic profile of each region if I so wanted, so that is pretty much public information.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611672</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269535620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wouldn't they already know that from things like aggregate state and local tax information and statistics on voters? And, you know, maybe how you voted in the elections? <br>
&nbsp; <br>For me, I already know I'm moving out of state in a couple of months, and I don't want myself to be considered part of California. Not that it's a terrible place, but it's a terrible government, and I'm concerned that once I start my business (after moving) they'll try to use census data to claim that I lived here for the whole year and owe them taxes. (I will happily pay the taxes in whichever state I move to, rather than get taken up the ass by CA's anti-small business movement.) If the census survey just asked for the number of people living in the house, I'd fill it in, but they can go count each other's villi rather than get my personal info.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't they already know that from things like aggregate state and local tax information and statistics on voters ?
And , you know , maybe how you voted in the elections ?
  For me , I already know I 'm moving out of state in a couple of months , and I do n't want myself to be considered part of California .
Not that it 's a terrible place , but it 's a terrible government , and I 'm concerned that once I start my business ( after moving ) they 'll try to use census data to claim that I lived here for the whole year and owe them taxes .
( I will happily pay the taxes in whichever state I move to , rather than get taken up the ass by CA 's anti-small business movement .
) If the census survey just asked for the number of people living in the house , I 'd fill it in , but they can go count each other 's villi rather than get my personal info .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't they already know that from things like aggregate state and local tax information and statistics on voters?
And, you know, maybe how you voted in the elections?
  For me, I already know I'm moving out of state in a couple of months, and I don't want myself to be considered part of California.
Not that it's a terrible place, but it's a terrible government, and I'm concerned that once I start my business (after moving) they'll try to use census data to claim that I lived here for the whole year and owe them taxes.
(I will happily pay the taxes in whichever state I move to, rather than get taken up the ass by CA's anti-small business movement.
) If the census survey just asked for the number of people living in the house, I'd fill it in, but they can go count each other's villi rather than get my personal info.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613610</id>
	<title>Why focus on data anyway?</title>
	<author>snowwrestler</author>
	<datestamp>1269541500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think what matters is what is done with the data. Just from the summary we can see a huge difference--similar data, but very different results between what happened to Japanese Americans and what didn't happen to Arab Americans.</p><p>Government has data on us. That could be bad, but it could also be good because data can help government work better. By analogy: the government has terribly powerful weapons. That could be bad if they were used against the citizenry, but it's good that they are available to be used in our defense.</p><p>Like weapons, data are just tools. What is needed are great and clear controls on what actions can arise from that data. After all without the census data, the government could have just as easily rounded up everyone who *looks* Japanese, or everyone who was reported by their neighbor to be Japanese. Not any better IMO.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think what matters is what is done with the data .
Just from the summary we can see a huge difference--similar data , but very different results between what happened to Japanese Americans and what did n't happen to Arab Americans.Government has data on us .
That could be bad , but it could also be good because data can help government work better .
By analogy : the government has terribly powerful weapons .
That could be bad if they were used against the citizenry , but it 's good that they are available to be used in our defense.Like weapons , data are just tools .
What is needed are great and clear controls on what actions can arise from that data .
After all without the census data , the government could have just as easily rounded up everyone who * looks * Japanese , or everyone who was reported by their neighbor to be Japanese .
Not any better IMO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think what matters is what is done with the data.
Just from the summary we can see a huge difference--similar data, but very different results between what happened to Japanese Americans and what didn't happen to Arab Americans.Government has data on us.
That could be bad, but it could also be good because data can help government work better.
By analogy: the government has terribly powerful weapons.
That could be bad if they were used against the citizenry, but it's good that they are available to be used in our defense.Like weapons, data are just tools.
What is needed are great and clear controls on what actions can arise from that data.
After all without the census data, the government could have just as easily rounded up everyone who *looks* Japanese, or everyone who was reported by their neighbor to be Japanese.
Not any better IMO.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611750</id>
	<title>Re:Aggregate data = No privacy</title>
	<author>TooMuchToDo</author>
	<datestamp>1269535800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From Wikipedia:<p><div class="quote"><p>A ZIP + 4 code uses the basic five-digit code plus four additional digits to identify a geographic segment within the five-digit delivery area, such as a city block, a group of apartments, an individual high-volume receiver of mail or any other unit that could use an extra identifier to aid in efficient mail sorting and delivery.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From Wikipedia : A ZIP + 4 code uses the basic five-digit code plus four additional digits to identify a geographic segment within the five-digit delivery area , such as a city block , a group of apartments , an individual high-volume receiver of mail or any other unit that could use an extra identifier to aid in efficient mail sorting and delivery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From Wikipedia:A ZIP + 4 code uses the basic five-digit code plus four additional digits to identify a geographic segment within the five-digit delivery area, such as a city block, a group of apartments, an individual high-volume receiver of mail or any other unit that could use an extra identifier to aid in efficient mail sorting and delivery.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611598</id>
	<title>Re:Compare and contrast these "concentration camps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269535380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.foitimes.com/" title="foitimes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.foitimes.com/</a> [foitimes.com]


<i>Besides the well known internment camps in California and Nevada for people of Japanese ancestry, she noted that camps were also set up for Germans and Italians throughout the United States and Latin America.</i>

No mention of these <b>Irish</b>, though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.foitimes.com/ [ foitimes.com ] Besides the well known internment camps in California and Nevada for people of Japanese ancestry , she noted that camps were also set up for Germans and Italians throughout the United States and Latin America .
No mention of these Irish , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.foitimes.com/ [foitimes.com]


Besides the well known internment camps in California and Nevada for people of Japanese ancestry, she noted that camps were also set up for Germans and Italians throughout the United States and Latin America.
No mention of these Irish, though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610762</id>
	<title>I exist</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Chalk me up for another person who just listed:</p><p>3 Americans live here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Chalk me up for another person who just listed : 3 Americans live here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chalk me up for another person who just listed:3 Americans live here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31617574</id>
	<title>Re:Just One Race -- American</title>
	<author>Eric Green</author>
	<datestamp>1269511260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids racial classification of people. Indeed, the Constitution is utterly silent on the subject. "Color", roughly corresponding to today's "Race" question, was a question on the Census as early as the 1850 Census. The only mention in the Constitution of race at all is the 15th amendment, which reads, "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude."
<p>
Today the "Race" question is used on the Census in order to meet the requirements of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which has been held by the courts to require that House districts be apportioned by race in order to provide proper representation for those of minority races. If you are a minority, it is thus in your best interests to put your proper race down, since that will get you more representation in Congress. If you are white... well, put something else down, it means non-whites get more representation, which I'm sure you're down with, right?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
</p><p>
Other than that, I agree that the question is meaningless in today's day and age... just look at all the fuss in the Hispanic community, which demands that Hispanic be a "race" even though, like Cajun, Hispanic is a culture, not a race. (There are black Hispanics from the Dominican Republic and white Hispanics from pure European bloodlines, but most Hispanics here today are mostly Indios or mestizos, i.e., AmerInds with a bit of Spanish blood mixed in, and should probably check the "White" and "American Indian" boxes to indicate that they are mixed-race as well as the appropriate box under the "Hispanic origin" question). None of that would be an issue if we'd just get over this whole race thing. Unfortunately, as the racist morons waving around pictures of Obama in African witch doctor garb and passing around racist emails showing Obama as a watermelon-eating darkie show, some Americans *still* just don't get it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids racial classification of people .
Indeed , the Constitution is utterly silent on the subject .
" Color " , roughly corresponding to today 's " Race " question , was a question on the Census as early as the 1850 Census .
The only mention in the Constitution of race at all is the 15th amendment , which reads , " The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race , color , or previous condition of servitude .
" Today the " Race " question is used on the Census in order to meet the requirements of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 , which has been held by the courts to require that House districts be apportioned by race in order to provide proper representation for those of minority races .
If you are a minority , it is thus in your best interests to put your proper race down , since that will get you more representation in Congress .
If you are white... well , put something else down , it means non-whites get more representation , which I 'm sure you 're down with , right ?
: ) Other than that , I agree that the question is meaningless in today 's day and age... just look at all the fuss in the Hispanic community , which demands that Hispanic be a " race " even though , like Cajun , Hispanic is a culture , not a race .
( There are black Hispanics from the Dominican Republic and white Hispanics from pure European bloodlines , but most Hispanics here today are mostly Indios or mestizos , i.e. , AmerInds with a bit of Spanish blood mixed in , and should probably check the " White " and " American Indian " boxes to indicate that they are mixed-race as well as the appropriate box under the " Hispanic origin " question ) .
None of that would be an issue if we 'd just get over this whole race thing .
Unfortunately , as the racist morons waving around pictures of Obama in African witch doctor garb and passing around racist emails showing Obama as a watermelon-eating darkie show , some Americans * still * just do n't get it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids racial classification of people.
Indeed, the Constitution is utterly silent on the subject.
"Color", roughly corresponding to today's "Race" question, was a question on the Census as early as the 1850 Census.
The only mention in the Constitution of race at all is the 15th amendment, which reads, "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
"

Today the "Race" question is used on the Census in order to meet the requirements of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which has been held by the courts to require that House districts be apportioned by race in order to provide proper representation for those of minority races.
If you are a minority, it is thus in your best interests to put your proper race down, since that will get you more representation in Congress.
If you are white... well, put something else down, it means non-whites get more representation, which I'm sure you're down with, right?
:)

Other than that, I agree that the question is meaningless in today's day and age... just look at all the fuss in the Hispanic community, which demands that Hispanic be a "race" even though, like Cajun, Hispanic is a culture, not a race.
(There are black Hispanics from the Dominican Republic and white Hispanics from pure European bloodlines, but most Hispanics here today are mostly Indios or mestizos, i.e., AmerInds with a bit of Spanish blood mixed in, and should probably check the "White" and "American Indian" boxes to indicate that they are mixed-race as well as the appropriate box under the "Hispanic origin" question).
None of that would be an issue if we'd just get over this whole race thing.
Unfortunately, as the racist morons waving around pictures of Obama in African witch doctor garb and passing around racist emails showing Obama as a watermelon-eating darkie show, some Americans *still* just don't get it...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31616186</id>
	<title>Re:Only Box the Census Taker Will Check For Me is.</title>
	<author>GastronomicalEvent</author>
	<datestamp>1269549780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Damn, you shouldn't have your gun registered to the government already. All you're doing is ruining the surprise for the census taker.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn , you should n't have your gun registered to the government already .
All you 're doing is ruining the surprise for the census taker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn, you shouldn't have your gun registered to the government already.
All you're doing is ruining the surprise for the census taker.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611390</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if I just don't give a damn? (I really, truly don't. Does that make you angry?)</p><p><i>It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt. know as much about the people they represent as possible</i></p><p>That's cute, but they don't represent me. They represent you -- at least you think they do.</p><p>I'm getting tired of all these gung-ho "patriots" telling me it's my duty to participate in government, when I'm already forced to pay for the things <i>they</i> want, and behave according to <i>their</i> ideals. They've already got me right where they want me. But no, that's not enough. They won't be happy until I join their little team and act like I'm enjoying it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if I just do n't give a damn ?
( I really , truly do n't .
Does that make you angry ?
) It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt .
know as much about the people they represent as possibleThat 's cute , but they do n't represent me .
They represent you -- at least you think they do.I 'm getting tired of all these gung-ho " patriots " telling me it 's my duty to participate in government , when I 'm already forced to pay for the things they want , and behave according to their ideals .
They 've already got me right where they want me .
But no , that 's not enough .
They wo n't be happy until I join their little team and act like I 'm enjoying it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if I just don't give a damn?
(I really, truly don't.
Does that make you angry?
)It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt.
know as much about the people they represent as possibleThat's cute, but they don't represent me.
They represent you -- at least you think they do.I'm getting tired of all these gung-ho "patriots" telling me it's my duty to participate in government, when I'm already forced to pay for the things they want, and behave according to their ideals.
They've already got me right where they want me.
But no, that's not enough.
They won't be happy until I join their little team and act like I'm enjoying it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611320</id>
	<title>Privacy Act of 1974</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, we did a lot of crazy things in the 40's. Misuse of census data, treatment of japanese americans, tuskegee airmen.</p><p>What the @ssholes who are spouting this propaganda forget is there ARE privacy laws in place to prevent misuse of data.</p><p>It IS illegal to do now in ways it WASN'T then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , we did a lot of crazy things in the 40 's .
Misuse of census data , treatment of japanese americans , tuskegee airmen.What the @ ssholes who are spouting this propaganda forget is there ARE privacy laws in place to prevent misuse of data.It IS illegal to do now in ways it WAS N'T then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, we did a lot of crazy things in the 40's.
Misuse of census data, treatment of japanese americans, tuskegee airmen.What the @ssholes who are spouting this propaganda forget is there ARE privacy laws in place to prevent misuse of data.It IS illegal to do now in ways it WASN'T then.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31622074</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit (Mod parent down)</title>
	<author>oasisbob</author>
	<datestamp>1269538980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What bullshit. The privacy protections regarding census answers were put in place AFTER the Japanese internment camps as a RESPONSE.</p></div></blockquote><p>No, good sir, what you write is indeed bullshit.</p><p>Says <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=confirmed-the-us-census-b" title="scientificamerican.com">Says Scientific American in 2007:</a> [scientificamerican.com] </p><blockquote><div><p>The Second War Powers Act of 1942 temporarily repealed that protection [census confidentiality] to assist in the roundup of Japanese-Americans for imprisonment in internment camps in California and six other states during the war.</p></div></blockquote><p>According to the same article, the Census Bureau denied this for decades.</p><p>It's true that in response, the privacy of the census was further codified:</p><blockquote><div><p>The legal confidentiality of census information dates to 1910, and in 1954 it became part of Title 13 of the U.S. Code</p></div></blockquote><p>After doing some research, it's clear that the Slashdot summary is accurate. If the "summary reads as is [sic] those protections were disregarded in that roundup", it's because they were.  I pity the mods that fell for you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What bullshit .
The privacy protections regarding census answers were put in place AFTER the Japanese internment camps as a RESPONSE.No , good sir , what you write is indeed bullshit.Says Says Scientific American in 2007 : [ scientificamerican.com ] The Second War Powers Act of 1942 temporarily repealed that protection [ census confidentiality ] to assist in the roundup of Japanese-Americans for imprisonment in internment camps in California and six other states during the war.According to the same article , the Census Bureau denied this for decades.It 's true that in response , the privacy of the census was further codified : The legal confidentiality of census information dates to 1910 , and in 1954 it became part of Title 13 of the U.S. CodeAfter doing some research , it 's clear that the Slashdot summary is accurate .
If the " summary reads as is [ sic ] those protections were disregarded in that roundup " , it 's because they were .
I pity the mods that fell for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What bullshit.
The privacy protections regarding census answers were put in place AFTER the Japanese internment camps as a RESPONSE.No, good sir, what you write is indeed bullshit.Says Says Scientific American in 2007: [scientificamerican.com] The Second War Powers Act of 1942 temporarily repealed that protection [census confidentiality] to assist in the roundup of Japanese-Americans for imprisonment in internment camps in California and six other states during the war.According to the same article, the Census Bureau denied this for decades.It's true that in response, the privacy of the census was further codified:The legal confidentiality of census information dates to 1910, and in 1954 it became part of Title 13 of the U.S. CodeAfter doing some research, it's clear that the Slashdot summary is accurate.
If the "summary reads as is [sic] those protections were disregarded in that roundup", it's because they were.
I pity the mods that fell for you.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611266</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>cosm</author>
	<datestamp>1269534360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt. know as much about the people they represent as possible.</p></div><p> While this is true, from a reelection / campaign standpoint the representatives seem only to care about the racial / financial distributions in a region, so they game the best rhetoric to spew to their constituents hitting the ballots. I am not undermining the importance of the census, just pointing out the twisted use of its data. Racism is much alive, and so is segregation, but alive in respect to how political parties "treat" demographics. The sooner the media drops labels based on biology, to sooner we can actually get past all this punditting bullshit about class-isms.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt .
know as much about the people they represent as possible .
While this is true , from a reelection / campaign standpoint the representatives seem only to care about the racial / financial distributions in a region , so they game the best rhetoric to spew to their constituents hitting the ballots .
I am not undermining the importance of the census , just pointing out the twisted use of its data .
Racism is much alive , and so is segregation , but alive in respect to how political parties " treat " demographics .
The sooner the media drops labels based on biology , to sooner we can actually get past all this punditting bullshit about class-isms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt.
know as much about the people they represent as possible.
While this is true, from a reelection / campaign standpoint the representatives seem only to care about the racial / financial distributions in a region, so they game the best rhetoric to spew to their constituents hitting the ballots.
I am not undermining the importance of the census, just pointing out the twisted use of its data.
Racism is much alive, and so is segregation, but alive in respect to how political parties "treat" demographics.
The sooner the media drops labels based on biology, to sooner we can actually get past all this punditting bullshit about class-isms.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614678</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269544800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The census form does ask your age and date of birth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The census form does ask your age and date of birth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The census form does ask your age and date of birth.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610632</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31615642</id>
	<title>Re:True but ignores later laws</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269547920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But if you won't trust the US government after it wewnt that far to fix the problem you are worried about, then you should leave this country.</p></div><p>If I could.... I would.<br>now dont get me wrong, I love my country, i fly a flag in front of my house every day, rain or shine, but I fear my government. And there are too many people in this great country who do noting but accept the bullsh&amp;t we are fed and allow the government to grow in the directions that we have allowed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But if you wo n't trust the US government after it wewnt that far to fix the problem you are worried about , then you should leave this country.If I could.... I would.now dont get me wrong , I love my country , i fly a flag in front of my house every day , rain or shine , but I fear my government .
And there are too many people in this great country who do noting but accept the bullsh&amp;t we are fed and allow the government to grow in the directions that we have allowed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But if you won't trust the US government after it wewnt that far to fix the problem you are worried about, then you should leave this country.If I could.... I would.now dont get me wrong, I love my country, i fly a flag in front of my house every day, rain or shine, but I fear my government.
And there are too many people in this great country who do noting but accept the bullsh&amp;t we are fed and allow the government to grow in the directions that we have allowed.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610868</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613804</id>
	<title>Re:Census Info Ultimately Becomes Public</title>
	<author>vxice</author>
	<datestamp>1269542040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>just because you 'have nothing to hide' doesn't mean everyone can and should  be up in your business.</htmltext>
<tokenext>just because you 'have nothing to hide ' does n't mean everyone can and should be up in your business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just because you 'have nothing to hide' doesn't mean everyone can and should  be up in your business.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611344</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>K. S. Kyosuke</author>
	<datestamp>1269534600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Actually, even Jefferson in the first ever census saw the value in obtaining extra information.</p></div><p>I'll gladly my extra personal information to Jefferson, then. He's a trustworthy chap.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , even Jefferson in the first ever census saw the value in obtaining extra information.I 'll gladly my extra personal information to Jefferson , then .
He 's a trustworthy chap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, even Jefferson in the first ever census saw the value in obtaining extra information.I'll gladly my extra personal information to Jefferson, then.
He's a trustworthy chap.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610826</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610908</id>
	<title>For crying out loud...</title>
	<author>Petersko</author>
	<datestamp>1269533220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"The data, from the 2000 census, had already been made public on the agency's Internet site...But the Census Bureau director acknowledged at the meeting that by tabulating and handing over the data...the agency had undermined public trust..."</i> <br> <br>

So let me get this straight. The data was publicly available, and the Bureau was getting in heat for... sorting it?<br> <br>

A six year old story about an eight year old NOTHING.<br> <br>

I routinely waste five minutes of time, but this block I particularly regret.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The data , from the 2000 census , had already been made public on the agency 's Internet site...But the Census Bureau director acknowledged at the meeting that by tabulating and handing over the data...the agency had undermined public trust... " So let me get this straight .
The data was publicly available , and the Bureau was getting in heat for... sorting it ?
A six year old story about an eight year old NOTHING .
I routinely waste five minutes of time , but this block I particularly regret .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The data, from the 2000 census, had already been made public on the agency's Internet site...But the Census Bureau director acknowledged at the meeting that by tabulating and handing over the data...the agency had undermined public trust..."  

So let me get this straight.
The data was publicly available, and the Bureau was getting in heat for... sorting it?
A six year old story about an eight year old NOTHING.
I routinely waste five minutes of time, but this block I particularly regret.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612732</id>
	<title>Re:Sometimes your census data is used for good...</title>
	<author>cmiller173</author>
	<datestamp>1269538800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just out of curiosity...what the hell kind of services are you providing that necessitates discriminating on race?  I'm 100\% sure that race discriminating for purposes of providing public services is illegal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just out of curiosity...what the hell kind of services are you providing that necessitates discriminating on race ?
I 'm 100 \ % sure that race discriminating for purposes of providing public services is illegal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just out of curiosity...what the hell kind of services are you providing that necessitates discriminating on race?
I'm 100\% sure that race discriminating for purposes of providing public services is illegal.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610934</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611368</id>
	<title>What are the questions this time?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What arethe questions in this years census? I used to live in a country that had censuses (or is it censi?) once every 5 years, and the questions included income, race, how many cats and dogs you had etc. Tjh only question we could 'object' to answering was tthe one asking our Religion. I presume that question would not be allowed here (separation of church and state etc. I like the idea of the UK people who reply to such a question with silly answer like "jedi'.</p><p>Name: Anonymous Coward<br>Date-Of-Birth : About 12 billion years after the universe was created<br>Sex:  No chance, I'm a geek who posts to slashdot<br>ZIP: I prefer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.RAR you insensitive clod<br>adress: ac314159265@hotmail.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What arethe questions in this years census ?
I used to live in a country that had censuses ( or is it censi ?
) once every 5 years , and the questions included income , race , how many cats and dogs you had etc .
Tjh only question we could 'object ' to answering was tthe one asking our Religion .
I presume that question would not be allowed here ( separation of church and state etc .
I like the idea of the UK people who reply to such a question with silly answer like " jedi'.Name : Anonymous CowardDate-Of-Birth : About 12 billion years after the universe was createdSex : No chance , I 'm a geek who posts to slashdotZIP : I prefer .RAR you insensitive clodadress : ac314159265 @ hotmail.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What arethe questions in this years census?
I used to live in a country that had censuses (or is it censi?
) once every 5 years, and the questions included income, race, how many cats and dogs you had etc.
Tjh only question we could 'object' to answering was tthe one asking our Religion.
I presume that question would not be allowed here (separation of church and state etc.
I like the idea of the UK people who reply to such a question with silly answer like "jedi'.Name: Anonymous CowardDate-Of-Birth : About 12 billion years after the universe was createdSex:  No chance, I'm a geek who posts to slashdotZIP: I prefer .RAR you insensitive clodadress: ac314159265@hotmail.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610872</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Birth date is one of the questions. <br>And yes, I'm a supervisor for the census.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Birth date is one of the questions .
And yes , I 'm a supervisor for the census .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Birth date is one of the questions.
And yes, I'm a supervisor for the census.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610632</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610952</id>
	<title>Re:Will census data stay private?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Time and effort to check a prepopulated standardised database? Minimal.</p><p>Time and effort required to connect dozens of different databases and write programs capable of compiling information from web searches? More than a government can manage.</p><p>If data is readily available, it will be used and abused, no matter what anybody says.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Time and effort to check a prepopulated standardised database ?
Minimal.Time and effort required to connect dozens of different databases and write programs capable of compiling information from web searches ?
More than a government can manage.If data is readily available , it will be used and abused , no matter what anybody says .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time and effort to check a prepopulated standardised database?
Minimal.Time and effort required to connect dozens of different databases and write programs capable of compiling information from web searches?
More than a government can manage.If data is readily available, it will be used and abused, no matter what anybody says.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610654</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612152</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe it says America is smarter than Ayn Rand?</title>
	<author>CraftyJack</author>
	<datestamp>1269536940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In fact, Ayn Rand is not even particularly good philosophy.</p></div><p>Or, to quote Benecio del Toro in Way of the Gun: "I don't think this is a brains kind of operation."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , Ayn Rand is not even particularly good philosophy.Or , to quote Benecio del Toro in Way of the Gun : " I do n't think this is a brains kind of operation .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, Ayn Rand is not even particularly good philosophy.Or, to quote Benecio del Toro in Way of the Gun: "I don't think this is a brains kind of operation.
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611722</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611610</id>
	<title>It's all public record stuff</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1269535440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everything on the form, other than race, that they asked about me is something you can easily find out from a public records search. It's not like where you live is some huge secret, unless you are living in someone's basement "off the grid" so to speak. Extra especially if you own property, there is a record of that, including title and all the documents that can be looked up.</p><p>In this day and age you can most certainly have privacy without a ton of effort. You can keep your private life to yourself to a very large degree with pretty minimal effort, unless you are a public figure like a politician or celebrity. What you cannot easily (if at all) have these days is anonymity, where nobody knows or can know who you are or where you live. You simply will be known through all sorts of means out there. That you exist is not going to be a secret.</p><p>As such I don't see the census as a big deal. All the questions are around identification, not around looking in to your private life. If you really think the government is going to use that info to toss you in a camp the correct answer isn't to not fill it out, the correct answer is to pack up your shit and get the fuck out because they can find you through other means.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything on the form , other than race , that they asked about me is something you can easily find out from a public records search .
It 's not like where you live is some huge secret , unless you are living in someone 's basement " off the grid " so to speak .
Extra especially if you own property , there is a record of that , including title and all the documents that can be looked up.In this day and age you can most certainly have privacy without a ton of effort .
You can keep your private life to yourself to a very large degree with pretty minimal effort , unless you are a public figure like a politician or celebrity .
What you can not easily ( if at all ) have these days is anonymity , where nobody knows or can know who you are or where you live .
You simply will be known through all sorts of means out there .
That you exist is not going to be a secret.As such I do n't see the census as a big deal .
All the questions are around identification , not around looking in to your private life .
If you really think the government is going to use that info to toss you in a camp the correct answer is n't to not fill it out , the correct answer is to pack up your shit and get the fuck out because they can find you through other means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything on the form, other than race, that they asked about me is something you can easily find out from a public records search.
It's not like where you live is some huge secret, unless you are living in someone's basement "off the grid" so to speak.
Extra especially if you own property, there is a record of that, including title and all the documents that can be looked up.In this day and age you can most certainly have privacy without a ton of effort.
You can keep your private life to yourself to a very large degree with pretty minimal effort, unless you are a public figure like a politician or celebrity.
What you cannot easily (if at all) have these days is anonymity, where nobody knows or can know who you are or where you live.
You simply will be known through all sorts of means out there.
That you exist is not going to be a secret.As such I don't see the census as a big deal.
All the questions are around identification, not around looking in to your private life.
If you really think the government is going to use that info to toss you in a camp the correct answer isn't to not fill it out, the correct answer is to pack up your shit and get the fuck out because they can find you through other means.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610632</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612528</id>
	<title>This is info the govt already knows...</title>
	<author>revlayle</author>
	<datestamp>1269538140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... and other people can EASILY find out.  Age, name, race, ethnic background... this crap is nothing.  The only thing I did NOT fill out was my phone number, the rest, hell, i'm sure the IRS has it already... if a some sort of investigative body needs to go there for that info, I'm sure they'll find a way to get it, if they didn't already know that basic info already.  If they asked for account #s, SSNs (again, something the IRS know too) and stuff like that, I would have protested.  Mostly, this form is pretty benign as far as information collection goes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... and other people can EASILY find out .
Age , name , race , ethnic background... this crap is nothing .
The only thing I did NOT fill out was my phone number , the rest , hell , i 'm sure the IRS has it already... if a some sort of investigative body needs to go there for that info , I 'm sure they 'll find a way to get it , if they did n't already know that basic info already .
If they asked for account # s , SSNs ( again , something the IRS know too ) and stuff like that , I would have protested .
Mostly , this form is pretty benign as far as information collection goes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... and other people can EASILY find out.
Age, name, race, ethnic background... this crap is nothing.
The only thing I did NOT fill out was my phone number, the rest, hell, i'm sure the IRS has it already... if a some sort of investigative body needs to go there for that info, I'm sure they'll find a way to get it, if they didn't already know that basic info already.
If they asked for account #s, SSNs (again, something the IRS know too) and stuff like that, I would have protested.
Mostly, this form is pretty benign as far as information collection goes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611218</id>
	<title>This isn't a "privacy" issue</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The privacy guarantee means that your identifying data won't be kept in relation to your responses; the Census Bureau doesn't have (at least they're not supposed to have) a database where they can type in your name / address / social security number and pull up your race, age, number of kids, etc. This doesn't mean, of course, that those of calamitous intent can't play around with the aggregate data and make some educated guesses.<br> <br>
I wouldn't advocate lying and/or skipping the census on that basis however. Sure doing that might in theory help keep you one step ahead of the Man when The Hammer Comes Down; but don't start crying if in your neighborhood the classrooms become more crowded, there's less cops on the beat, the potholes seem to never get fixed, and your block always winds up getting plowed out two days after the big snowstorm.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The privacy guarantee means that your identifying data wo n't be kept in relation to your responses ; the Census Bureau does n't have ( at least they 're not supposed to have ) a database where they can type in your name / address / social security number and pull up your race , age , number of kids , etc .
This does n't mean , of course , that those of calamitous intent ca n't play around with the aggregate data and make some educated guesses .
I would n't advocate lying and/or skipping the census on that basis however .
Sure doing that might in theory help keep you one step ahead of the Man when The Hammer Comes Down ; but do n't start crying if in your neighborhood the classrooms become more crowded , there 's less cops on the beat , the potholes seem to never get fixed , and your block always winds up getting plowed out two days after the big snowstorm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The privacy guarantee means that your identifying data won't be kept in relation to your responses; the Census Bureau doesn't have (at least they're not supposed to have) a database where they can type in your name / address / social security number and pull up your race, age, number of kids, etc.
This doesn't mean, of course, that those of calamitous intent can't play around with the aggregate data and make some educated guesses.
I wouldn't advocate lying and/or skipping the census on that basis however.
Sure doing that might in theory help keep you one step ahead of the Man when The Hammer Comes Down; but don't start crying if in your neighborhood the classrooms become more crowded, there's less cops on the beat, the potholes seem to never get fixed, and your block always winds up getting plowed out two days after the big snowstorm.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31622708</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>Mana Mana</author>
	<datestamp>1269633600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Michelle Malkin, darling of the wingnuts, FNC fave, of Phillipine background herself (and zero-generation at that, I think she fell off the boat as a child), DEFENDS on FNC the Japanese internment!</p><p>She would not peddle this shtick unless someone, lots of someones in present day America, did not buy it.</p><p>Self-hating ethnic? Do anything for money? Believe it wholeheartedly? Who cares.</p><p>It's here today. There's nothing new under the sun. History will repeat itself. It's human nature. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. There, I covered it all for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Michelle Malkin , darling of the wingnuts , FNC fave , of Phillipine background herself ( and zero-generation at that , I think she fell off the boat as a child ) , DEFENDS on FNC the Japanese internment ! She would not peddle this shtick unless someone , lots of someones in present day America , did not buy it.Self-hating ethnic ?
Do anything for money ?
Believe it wholeheartedly ?
Who cares.It 's here today .
There 's nothing new under the sun .
History will repeat itself .
It 's human nature .
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom .
There , I covered it all for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Michelle Malkin, darling of the wingnuts, FNC fave, of Phillipine background herself (and zero-generation at that, I think she fell off the boat as a child), DEFENDS on FNC the Japanese internment!She would not peddle this shtick unless someone, lots of someones in present day America, did not buy it.Self-hating ethnic?
Do anything for money?
Believe it wholeheartedly?
Who cares.It's here today.
There's nothing new under the sun.
History will repeat itself.
It's human nature.
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.
There, I covered it all for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611144</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610892</id>
	<title>Census Info Ultimately Becomes Public</title>
	<author>coolmoose25</author>
	<datestamp>1269533160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Census data always becomes public...  <a href="http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/" title="census.gov">According to this</a> [census.gov] census data becomes public after 72 years.  This is an invaluable resource to those tracing their genealogy.  I will be filling out my form fully, but then I'm not an illegal immigrant or a terrorist.  I could see why someone in those groups would not want to fill it out.  But filling them out provides valuable data today for all kinds of things, from predicting how many students will enroll in your public schools to how many representatives you'll have in local, state, and federal elections.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Census data always becomes public... According to this [ census.gov ] census data becomes public after 72 years .
This is an invaluable resource to those tracing their genealogy .
I will be filling out my form fully , but then I 'm not an illegal immigrant or a terrorist .
I could see why someone in those groups would not want to fill it out .
But filling them out provides valuable data today for all kinds of things , from predicting how many students will enroll in your public schools to how many representatives you 'll have in local , state , and federal elections .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Census data always becomes public...  According to this [census.gov] census data becomes public after 72 years.
This is an invaluable resource to those tracing their genealogy.
I will be filling out my form fully, but then I'm not an illegal immigrant or a terrorist.
I could see why someone in those groups would not want to fill it out.
But filling them out provides valuable data today for all kinds of things, from predicting how many students will enroll in your public schools to how many representatives you'll have in local, state, and federal elections.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611030</id>
	<title>Re:Only Box the Census Taker Will Check For Me is.</title>
	<author>kevinNCSU</author>
	<datestamp>1269533580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yea, take that mailman!  Oh shit, Wait! Drop the netflix envelope before you run away! And comeback for it tomorrow!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yea , take that mailman !
Oh shit , Wait !
Drop the netflix envelope before you run away !
And comeback for it tomorrow !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yea, take that mailman!
Oh shit, Wait!
Drop the netflix envelope before you run away!
And comeback for it tomorrow!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610652</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610826</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, even Jefferson in the first ever census saw the value in obtaining extra information. He pushed for more than just number of people, although that was the doctrine provided by the constitution. Were his motives pure evil? I doubt it. Government has reasons for what it does, which often conflict with the citizens best interest ( real or perceived ) and has always pushed the limits on every process that has been available, even the super-freedom-loving-and-creating-founding-fathers.</p><p>I gave them my address and number of residents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , even Jefferson in the first ever census saw the value in obtaining extra information .
He pushed for more than just number of people , although that was the doctrine provided by the constitution .
Were his motives pure evil ?
I doubt it .
Government has reasons for what it does , which often conflict with the citizens best interest ( real or perceived ) and has always pushed the limits on every process that has been available , even the super-freedom-loving-and-creating-founding-fathers.I gave them my address and number of residents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, even Jefferson in the first ever census saw the value in obtaining extra information.
He pushed for more than just number of people, although that was the doctrine provided by the constitution.
Were his motives pure evil?
I doubt it.
Government has reasons for what it does, which often conflict with the citizens best interest ( real or perceived ) and has always pushed the limits on every process that has been available, even the super-freedom-loving-and-creating-founding-fathers.I gave them my address and number of residents.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610682</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611630</id>
	<title>Census Hypocricy</title>
	<author>SteveHeadroom</author>
	<datestamp>1269535500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny how most of the people who are suddenly concerned about the census invading their privacy by citing examples of WWII Japanese interment camps and Muslim tracking the same people who just a couple years earlier defended WWII Japanese internment camps (see Michelle Malkin) and advocated keeping a closer eye on American Muslims.</p><p>Now that a black man is President, they're scared that the government is asking them what race they are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny how most of the people who are suddenly concerned about the census invading their privacy by citing examples of WWII Japanese interment camps and Muslim tracking the same people who just a couple years earlier defended WWII Japanese internment camps ( see Michelle Malkin ) and advocated keeping a closer eye on American Muslims.Now that a black man is President , they 're scared that the government is asking them what race they are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny how most of the people who are suddenly concerned about the census invading their privacy by citing examples of WWII Japanese interment camps and Muslim tracking the same people who just a couple years earlier defended WWII Japanese internment camps (see Michelle Malkin) and advocated keeping a closer eye on American Muslims.Now that a black man is President, they're scared that the government is asking them what race they are.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611478</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1269534960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.</i></p><p>If the Nielsen's asked me what race I was, I wouldn't fill that out either.  In the case of the Nielsens, I can at least see some value in knowing race, as it would make marketing easier.  But the government should be colorblind, every citizen should get the same services regardless of race.  Therefore, the government has no reason to know my race.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To give a hypothetical example , it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.If the Nielsen 's asked me what race I was , I would n't fill that out either .
In the case of the Nielsens , I can at least see some value in knowing race , as it would make marketing easier .
But the government should be colorblind , every citizen should get the same services regardless of race .
Therefore , the government has no reason to know my race .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.If the Nielsen's asked me what race I was, I wouldn't fill that out either.
In the case of the Nielsens, I can at least see some value in knowing race, as it would make marketing easier.
But the government should be colorblind, every citizen should get the same services regardless of race.
Therefore, the government has no reason to know my race.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610748</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612910</id>
	<title>Re:Compare and contrast these "concentration camps</title>
	<author>xmundt</author>
	<datestamp>1269539280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>     Greetings and salutations...<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Research is a good thing...<br>http://www.foitimes.com/</p><p>http://www.gaic.info/</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; One of the reasons that you MIGHT well not know about this is that the interned German-Americans were required to sign an Official Secrets form, that obligated them to NEVER speak of their experiences on pain of being deported.    If YOU were in the situation where government agents swooped in, without warning, bundled you off to a prison camp for years and let you go ONLY if you would sign this paper, would you say anything about your experiences?   Especially if you had a family that would be caught up in the sweep and deported with you?   I suspect not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Greetings and salutations.. .           Research is a good thing...http : //www.foitimes.com/http : //www.gaic.info/           One of the reasons that you MIGHT well not know about this is that the interned German-Americans were required to sign an Official Secrets form , that obligated them to NEVER speak of their experiences on pain of being deported .
If YOU were in the situation where government agents swooped in , without warning , bundled you off to a prison camp for years and let you go ONLY if you would sign this paper , would you say anything about your experiences ?
Especially if you had a family that would be caught up in the sweep and deported with you ?
I suspect not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     Greetings and salutations...
          Research is a good thing...http://www.foitimes.com/http://www.gaic.info/
          One of the reasons that you MIGHT well not know about this is that the interned German-Americans were required to sign an Official Secrets form, that obligated them to NEVER speak of their experiences on pain of being deported.
If YOU were in the situation where government agents swooped in, without warning, bundled you off to a prison camp for years and let you go ONLY if you would sign this paper, would you say anything about your experiences?
Especially if you had a family that would be caught up in the sweep and deported with you?
I suspect not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610944</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614466</id>
	<title>Re:Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1269544080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure what planet you were on on 9/11, but we had future-neocons driving around town in the back of pickup trucks, American flags waving in the breeze, yelling "Fuck sandniggers" with a banner on the side of the truck (they must have made it pretty quick, this was 9/12) that said "Go Home Towelheads".</p><p>I don't put ANYTHING past xenophobes like these. I've been wrong about human nature too many times to give them the benefit of the doubt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure what planet you were on on 9/11 , but we had future-neocons driving around town in the back of pickup trucks , American flags waving in the breeze , yelling " Fuck sandniggers " with a banner on the side of the truck ( they must have made it pretty quick , this was 9/12 ) that said " Go Home Towelheads " .I do n't put ANYTHING past xenophobes like these .
I 've been wrong about human nature too many times to give them the benefit of the doubt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure what planet you were on on 9/11, but we had future-neocons driving around town in the back of pickup trucks, American flags waving in the breeze, yelling "Fuck sandniggers" with a banner on the side of the truck (they must have made it pretty quick, this was 9/12) that said "Go Home Towelheads".I don't put ANYTHING past xenophobes like these.
I've been wrong about human nature too many times to give them the benefit of the doubt.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610800</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611826</id>
	<title>Race</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I for one will be checking "other" and entering "European American" no offense to other races intended. I just plan on receiving the same recognition for my heritage as you do yours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I for one will be checking " other " and entering " European American " no offense to other races intended .
I just plan on receiving the same recognition for my heritage as you do yours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I for one will be checking "other" and entering "European American" no offense to other races intended.
I just plan on receiving the same recognition for my heritage as you do yours.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31615164</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>tbgreve</author>
	<datestamp>1269546300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Birth date is on there. I am looking at it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Birth date is on there .
I am looking at it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Birth date is on there.
I am looking at it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610632</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611640</id>
	<title>OMG! what if government learns my name</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1269535500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And my birthday, race, and address?
<br>
The only surprising thing is that they cant do an automatic census for 80\% of the population they know for sure already.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And my birthday , race , and address ?
The only surprising thing is that they cant do an automatic census for 80 \ % of the population they know for sure already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And my birthday, race, and address?
The only surprising thing is that they cant do an automatic census for 80\% of the population they know for sure already.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612286</id>
	<title>Last time I checked...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269537360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"White" and "black" were not races, they were colors. I couldn't in good conscious lie on a government form, so I filled out my race as "Other."</p><p>I LOL'd at how the form kept telling me how important it was for them to know all this stuff about me. Congressional funding that they "get" comes out of our taxes. That funding doesn't help me. It helps local government do whatever they happen to want to do on a given week.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" White " and " black " were not races , they were colors .
I could n't in good conscious lie on a government form , so I filled out my race as " Other .
" I LOL 'd at how the form kept telling me how important it was for them to know all this stuff about me .
Congressional funding that they " get " comes out of our taxes .
That funding does n't help me .
It helps local government do whatever they happen to want to do on a given week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"White" and "black" were not races, they were colors.
I couldn't in good conscious lie on a government form, so I filled out my race as "Other.
"I LOL'd at how the form kept telling me how important it was for them to know all this stuff about me.
Congressional funding that they "get" comes out of our taxes.
That funding doesn't help me.
It helps local government do whatever they happen to want to do on a given week.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610912</id>
	<title>Genealogy</title>
	<author>turb</author>
	<datestamp>1269533220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Census data is akin to medical records. You want your person information to remain confidential generally speaking but aggregated together, it's not hard to argue that such data could be used to benefit research and therefore benefit mankind.  However confidentiality to one's family is probably less important. For example if your family has a history of heart conditions, you'd rather like to know that, even if Grandpa so and so never told you.</p><p>Having access to census data when trying to even research your family tree is critical. While genealogy isn't as much of a benefit to mankind as medicine, it at least means something to me at a personal level. I'm very very glad that old census records are available.</p><p>I completely agree that census data just like medical records is open to abuse. Profiling of any race is just plain wrong and the government should never have allowed that and those that did it should have been caught and prosecuted.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Census data is akin to medical records .
You want your person information to remain confidential generally speaking but aggregated together , it 's not hard to argue that such data could be used to benefit research and therefore benefit mankind .
However confidentiality to one 's family is probably less important .
For example if your family has a history of heart conditions , you 'd rather like to know that , even if Grandpa so and so never told you.Having access to census data when trying to even research your family tree is critical .
While genealogy is n't as much of a benefit to mankind as medicine , it at least means something to me at a personal level .
I 'm very very glad that old census records are available.I completely agree that census data just like medical records is open to abuse .
Profiling of any race is just plain wrong and the government should never have allowed that and those that did it should have been caught and prosecuted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Census data is akin to medical records.
You want your person information to remain confidential generally speaking but aggregated together, it's not hard to argue that such data could be used to benefit research and therefore benefit mankind.
However confidentiality to one's family is probably less important.
For example if your family has a history of heart conditions, you'd rather like to know that, even if Grandpa so and so never told you.Having access to census data when trying to even research your family tree is critical.
While genealogy isn't as much of a benefit to mankind as medicine, it at least means something to me at a personal level.
I'm very very glad that old census records are available.I completely agree that census data just like medical records is open to abuse.
Profiling of any race is just plain wrong and the government should never have allowed that and those that did it should have been caught and prosecuted.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612684</id>
	<title>the constitutional answer</title>
	<author>viridari</author>
	<datestamp>1269538680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"5". That's what I put on my census form before mailing it back. The other questions were left unanswered.

</p><p>The US Constitution calls for a census every 10 years to take a count of the people which is crucial for getting the right number of congressmen allocated. The US Constitution further reserves everything to the states or to the people that is not enumerated in the constitution for the federal government.

</p><p>There are 5 people in my house. That's all I'm volunteering. They don't need to know my name, how old I am, what color I am, what religion I practice, my sexual orientation, etc. The rest is none of the census department's business.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" 5 " .
That 's what I put on my census form before mailing it back .
The other questions were left unanswered .
The US Constitution calls for a census every 10 years to take a count of the people which is crucial for getting the right number of congressmen allocated .
The US Constitution further reserves everything to the states or to the people that is not enumerated in the constitution for the federal government .
There are 5 people in my house .
That 's all I 'm volunteering .
They do n't need to know my name , how old I am , what color I am , what religion I practice , my sexual orientation , etc .
The rest is none of the census department 's business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"5".
That's what I put on my census form before mailing it back.
The other questions were left unanswered.
The US Constitution calls for a census every 10 years to take a count of the people which is crucial for getting the right number of congressmen allocated.
The US Constitution further reserves everything to the states or to the people that is not enumerated in the constitution for the federal government.
There are 5 people in my house.
That's all I'm volunteering.
They don't need to know my name, how old I am, what color I am, what religion I practice, my sexual orientation, etc.
The rest is none of the census department's business.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613316</id>
	<title>Re:I only answered the first question</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1269540660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, I want accurate data so better decisions can be made.</p><p>You can cower in fear if you like, I will not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I want accurate data so better decisions can be made.You can cower in fear if you like , I will not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I want accurate data so better decisions can be made.You can cower in fear if you like, I will not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611540</id>
	<title>Re:Will census data stay private?</title>
	<author>Hotawa Hawk-eye</author>
	<datestamp>1269535200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your response to those other forms (well, except for your tax forms, I guess) is not required by law.  The letter I got alerting me that in about a week I'd receive a form that I was required by law to fill out and return, the bold text on the front of the envelope that contained the actual census form, the postcard-style reminder I received a couple of days after I'd mailed the damn thing back, and the television commercials that have been airing since January all reminded me that <b>YOUR RESPONSE IS REQUIRED BY LAW</b>.  How much of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010\_United\_States\_Census" title="wikipedia.org">GAO-estimated $11 billion cost of the census</a> [wikipedia.org] would you guess was wasted^H^H^H^H^H^Hspent on those additional reminders?  Would it have been more cost-effective to send out a second request (or even a Census Bureau representative) to the locations where a census form was sent but not returned a month after the original mailing?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your response to those other forms ( well , except for your tax forms , I guess ) is not required by law .
The letter I got alerting me that in about a week I 'd receive a form that I was required by law to fill out and return , the bold text on the front of the envelope that contained the actual census form , the postcard-style reminder I received a couple of days after I 'd mailed the damn thing back , and the television commercials that have been airing since January all reminded me that YOUR RESPONSE IS REQUIRED BY LAW .
How much of the GAO-estimated $ 11 billion cost of the census [ wikipedia.org ] would you guess was wasted ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ Hspent on those additional reminders ?
Would it have been more cost-effective to send out a second request ( or even a Census Bureau representative ) to the locations where a census form was sent but not returned a month after the original mailing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your response to those other forms (well, except for your tax forms, I guess) is not required by law.
The letter I got alerting me that in about a week I'd receive a form that I was required by law to fill out and return, the bold text on the front of the envelope that contained the actual census form, the postcard-style reminder I received a couple of days after I'd mailed the damn thing back, and the television commercials that have been airing since January all reminded me that YOUR RESPONSE IS REQUIRED BY LAW.
How much of the GAO-estimated $11 billion cost of the census [wikipedia.org] would you guess was wasted^H^H^H^H^H^Hspent on those additional reminders?
Would it have been more cost-effective to send out a second request (or even a Census Bureau representative) to the locations where a census form was sent but not returned a month after the original mailing?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610654</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611926</id>
	<title>No, of course not</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1269536340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We all know that your answers will promptly be sent to your local ObamaCare/GovernmentMotors/ACORN regional office, to ensure that you are signed up for your annual abortion.  After all, how else would they be able to feed the insatiable appetite of the army of zombie alien anti-christs at the white house?</htmltext>
<tokenext>We all know that your answers will promptly be sent to your local ObamaCare/GovernmentMotors/ACORN regional office , to ensure that you are signed up for your annual abortion .
After all , how else would they be able to feed the insatiable appetite of the army of zombie alien anti-christs at the white house ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We all know that your answers will promptly be sent to your local ObamaCare/GovernmentMotors/ACORN regional office, to ensure that you are signed up for your annual abortion.
After all, how else would they be able to feed the insatiable appetite of the army of zombie alien anti-christs at the white house?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612214</id>
	<title>http://www.foitimes.com/ has details on internment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269537180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.foitimes.com/" title="foitimes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.foitimes.com/</a> [foitimes.com] has details on internment, which includes national archives on where many tens of thousands of American-Germans and American-Italians were concentrated, if you will.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.foitimes.com/ [ foitimes.com ] has details on internment , which includes national archives on where many tens of thousands of American-Germans and American-Italians were concentrated , if you will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.foitimes.com/ [foitimes.com] has details on internment, which includes national archives on where many tens of thousands of American-Germans and American-Italians were concentrated, if you will.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610672</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31617356</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>Ferretman</author>
	<datestamp>1269510300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Give it rest guys.  Your claims don't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny.  The interment camps were <i>nearly seventy years ago</i>.  We've learned since then.</p></div><p>I'm not so sure, when you've had the camps in Thailand, the slaughter in Vietnam, and the recent turnover of data on Arab-Americans to the government after 9/11.
<br>
<br>
Better they NOT have it and avoid temptation, than they DO have it and we have to rely on trust.  The government's kinda worn out their trust card of late.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Give it rest guys .
Your claims do n't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny .
The interment camps were nearly seventy years ago .
We 've learned since then.I 'm not so sure , when you 've had the camps in Thailand , the slaughter in Vietnam , and the recent turnover of data on Arab-Americans to the government after 9/11 .
Better they NOT have it and avoid temptation , than they DO have it and we have to rely on trust .
The government 's kinda worn out their trust card of late .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give it rest guys.
Your claims don't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny.
The interment camps were nearly seventy years ago.
We've learned since then.I'm not so sure, when you've had the camps in Thailand, the slaughter in Vietnam, and the recent turnover of data on Arab-Americans to the government after 9/11.
Better they NOT have it and avoid temptation, than they DO have it and we have to rely on trust.
The government's kinda worn out their trust card of late.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611144</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613144</id>
	<title>Just One Race -- American</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269540060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The constitution authorizes the Federal government to conduct a decennial enumeration of the people, but it also forbids racial classification of the American People. The Census Bureau has allocated one-quarter of the space on this year's census form to questions about race and ethnicity, which if not unconstitutional, are clearly contrary to its spirit.</p><p>Question 9 on the census form asks "What is Person 1's race?" (and so on, for other members of the household).</p><p>I will answer Question 9 by checking the last option -- "Some other race" -- and writing in "American." It is a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for me as an ordinary citizens to object to unconstitutional racial classification schemes.</p><p>"American," was counted by the Census Bureau when it reported the results of the 2000 census. In fact, the number of people answering "American" grew from 12.4 million in the 1990 census to 20.2 million in 2000, "the largest numerical growth of any ancestry group," according to Wikipedia. "American" was the most common answer to that question on the 2000 census in four states and several hundred counties.</p><p>It is a violation of the law to lie or to not answer a question on the census form, that is why I will answer question 9 with "American". Some people maybe tempted to check an inapplicable box. But lying in this constitutionally mandated process is wrong. Really -- don't do it.</p><p>If you are not a member of an enrolled tribe, don't check Native American -- they won't count it.<br>Cutesy answers such as "human" or 100 Yard Dash will not be counted by the Census Bureau.</p><p>So remember: Question 9 -- "Some other race" -- "American". Pass it on.<br>If you are hassled about answering American by the census bureaucrats or the ACORN minion who comes to your door, you have legal support for your answer:</p><p>"In the eyes of government, we are just one race here. It is American."</p><p>Justice Scalia, concurring in Adarand Constructors v. Pena, 515 U.S. 200 (1995).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The constitution authorizes the Federal government to conduct a decennial enumeration of the people , but it also forbids racial classification of the American People .
The Census Bureau has allocated one-quarter of the space on this year 's census form to questions about race and ethnicity , which if not unconstitutional , are clearly contrary to its spirit.Question 9 on the census form asks " What is Person 1 's race ?
" ( and so on , for other members of the household ) .I will answer Question 9 by checking the last option -- " Some other race " -- and writing in " American .
" It is a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for me as an ordinary citizens to object to unconstitutional racial classification schemes .
" American , " was counted by the Census Bureau when it reported the results of the 2000 census .
In fact , the number of people answering " American " grew from 12.4 million in the 1990 census to 20.2 million in 2000 , " the largest numerical growth of any ancestry group , " according to Wikipedia .
" American " was the most common answer to that question on the 2000 census in four states and several hundred counties.It is a violation of the law to lie or to not answer a question on the census form , that is why I will answer question 9 with " American " .
Some people maybe tempted to check an inapplicable box .
But lying in this constitutionally mandated process is wrong .
Really -- do n't do it.If you are not a member of an enrolled tribe , do n't check Native American -- they wo n't count it.Cutesy answers such as " human " or 100 Yard Dash will not be counted by the Census Bureau.So remember : Question 9 -- " Some other race " -- " American " .
Pass it on.If you are hassled about answering American by the census bureaucrats or the ACORN minion who comes to your door , you have legal support for your answer : " In the eyes of government , we are just one race here .
It is American .
" Justice Scalia , concurring in Adarand Constructors v. Pena , 515 U.S. 200 ( 1995 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The constitution authorizes the Federal government to conduct a decennial enumeration of the people, but it also forbids racial classification of the American People.
The Census Bureau has allocated one-quarter of the space on this year's census form to questions about race and ethnicity, which if not unconstitutional, are clearly contrary to its spirit.Question 9 on the census form asks "What is Person 1's race?
" (and so on, for other members of the household).I will answer Question 9 by checking the last option -- "Some other race" -- and writing in "American.
" It is a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for me as an ordinary citizens to object to unconstitutional racial classification schemes.
"American," was counted by the Census Bureau when it reported the results of the 2000 census.
In fact, the number of people answering "American" grew from 12.4 million in the 1990 census to 20.2 million in 2000, "the largest numerical growth of any ancestry group," according to Wikipedia.
"American" was the most common answer to that question on the 2000 census in four states and several hundred counties.It is a violation of the law to lie or to not answer a question on the census form, that is why I will answer question 9 with "American".
Some people maybe tempted to check an inapplicable box.
But lying in this constitutionally mandated process is wrong.
Really -- don't do it.If you are not a member of an enrolled tribe, don't check Native American -- they won't count it.Cutesy answers such as "human" or 100 Yard Dash will not be counted by the Census Bureau.So remember: Question 9 -- "Some other race" -- "American".
Pass it on.If you are hassled about answering American by the census bureaucrats or the ACORN minion who comes to your door, you have legal support for your answer:"In the eyes of government, we are just one race here.
It is American.
"Justice Scalia, concurring in Adarand Constructors v. Pena, 515 U.S. 200 (1995).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611832</id>
	<title>Note To Slashdot Editors</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1269536040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are still some people reading slashdot who are not conservatives, convinced that the government is currently being run by the anti-christ and his army of evil minions (OK, at least one - me).  We would appreciate if the editorial board at slashdot would tone down their conservative bend, at least a little bit, and go back to focusing on technology.<br> <br>
Not long ago, there used to be this kind of conservative spank-fest topics posted to the front page only every couple weeks.  This is the second or third this week.  I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other sources for conservative conspiracy theories; I don't see why slashdot needs to feed into that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are still some people reading slashdot who are not conservatives , convinced that the government is currently being run by the anti-christ and his army of evil minions ( OK , at least one - me ) .
We would appreciate if the editorial board at slashdot would tone down their conservative bend , at least a little bit , and go back to focusing on technology .
Not long ago , there used to be this kind of conservative spank-fest topics posted to the front page only every couple weeks .
This is the second or third this week .
I 'm pretty sure there are plenty of other sources for conservative conspiracy theories ; I do n't see why slashdot needs to feed into that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are still some people reading slashdot who are not conservatives, convinced that the government is currently being run by the anti-christ and his army of evil minions (OK, at least one - me).
We would appreciate if the editorial board at slashdot would tone down their conservative bend, at least a little bit, and go back to focusing on technology.
Not long ago, there used to be this kind of conservative spank-fest topics posted to the front page only every couple weeks.
This is the second or third this week.
I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other sources for conservative conspiracy theories; I don't see why slashdot needs to feed into that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31617722</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Myopic</author>
	<datestamp>1269511920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whether or not he should be a rep is up to the voters, not some arbitrary pop quiz about his constituents. If you think a representative should automatically know population, racial, economic, and demographic details about each neighborhood in his district, then you have an absurd standard for representation. If you are serious, then you must never have been able to vote for anybody in your whole life.</p><p>And thus, you must not be serious. You are either kidding us, or kidding yourself. I'll hope for the former.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whether or not he should be a rep is up to the voters , not some arbitrary pop quiz about his constituents .
If you think a representative should automatically know population , racial , economic , and demographic details about each neighborhood in his district , then you have an absurd standard for representation .
If you are serious , then you must never have been able to vote for anybody in your whole life.And thus , you must not be serious .
You are either kidding us , or kidding yourself .
I 'll hope for the former .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whether or not he should be a rep is up to the voters, not some arbitrary pop quiz about his constituents.
If you think a representative should automatically know population, racial, economic, and demographic details about each neighborhood in his district, then you have an absurd standard for representation.
If you are serious, then you must never have been able to vote for anybody in your whole life.And thus, you must not be serious.
You are either kidding us, or kidding yourself.
I'll hope for the former.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611336</id>
	<title>The Private companies know far more.</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1269534540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, it is disturbing to know that the census bureau has been very acquiescing in the past. But the days there are entities far more powerful than the Government of USofA when it comes to meddling with our liberties. It is far more likely that some credit rating agency would screw up their data collection and cost my credit score, or identify me as one of the "docile customer who stays with the cell phone company long after the contract had expired, so don't offer him the latest gizmo, he wont switch dont worry he is far too lazy". Than I will be interned by the Government or become target of FBI surveillance. <p>

Yet, we are willing to sacrifice privacy, allow these completely profit motivated companies to collect, collate and organize data with absolutely no limit, no accountability.
Go figure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it is disturbing to know that the census bureau has been very acquiescing in the past .
But the days there are entities far more powerful than the Government of USofA when it comes to meddling with our liberties .
It is far more likely that some credit rating agency would screw up their data collection and cost my credit score , or identify me as one of the " docile customer who stays with the cell phone company long after the contract had expired , so do n't offer him the latest gizmo , he wont switch dont worry he is far too lazy " .
Than I will be interned by the Government or become target of FBI surveillance .
Yet , we are willing to sacrifice privacy , allow these completely profit motivated companies to collect , collate and organize data with absolutely no limit , no accountability .
Go figure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it is disturbing to know that the census bureau has been very acquiescing in the past.
But the days there are entities far more powerful than the Government of USofA when it comes to meddling with our liberties.
It is far more likely that some credit rating agency would screw up their data collection and cost my credit score, or identify me as one of the "docile customer who stays with the cell phone company long after the contract had expired, so don't offer him the latest gizmo, he wont switch dont worry he is far too lazy".
Than I will be interned by the Government or become target of FBI surveillance.
Yet, we are willing to sacrifice privacy, allow these completely profit motivated companies to collect, collate and organize data with absolutely no limit, no accountability.
Go figure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614040</id>
	<title>Re:My privacy won't be violated</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269542640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man, this thread is just full of constitutional scholars.  From the Census web site:</p><blockquote><div><p>It is constitutional to include questions in the decennial census beyond those concerning a simple count of the number of people. On numerous occasions, the courts have said the Constitution gives Congress the authority to collect statistics in the census. As early as 1870, the Supreme Court characterized as unquestionable the power of Congress to require both an enumeration and the collection of statistics in the census. The Legal Tender Cases, Tex.1870; 12 Wall., U.S., 457, 536, 20 L.Ed. 287. In 1901, a District Court said the Constitution's census clause (Art. 1, Sec. 2, Clause 3) is not limited to a headcount of the population and "does not prohibit the gathering of other statistics, if 'necessary and proper,' for the intelligent exercise of other powers enumerated in the constitution, and in such case there could be no objection to acquiring this information through the same machinery by which the population is enumerated." United States v. Moriarity, 106 F. 886, 891 (S.D.N.Y.1901).</p><p>The census does not violate the Fourth Amendment. Morales v. Daley, 116 F. Supp. 2d 801, 820 (S.D. Tex. 2000). In concluding that there was no basis for holding Census 2000 unconstitutional, the District Court in Morales ruled that the 2000 Census and the 2000 Census questions did not violate the Fourth Amendment or other constitutional provisions as alleged by plaintiffs. (The Morales court said responses to census questions are not a violation of a citizen's right to privacy or speech.) "[I]t is clear that the degree to which these questions intrude upon an individual's privacy is limited, given the methods used to collect the census data and the statutory assurance that the answers and attribution to an individual will remain confidential. The degree to which the information is needed for the promotion of legitimate governmental interests has been found to be significant. A census of the type of Census 2000 has been taken every ten years since the first census in 1790. Such a census has been thought to be necessary for over two hundred years. There is no basis for holding that it is not necessary in the year 2000."</p><p>The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit affirmed the District Court decision on October 10, 2001, 275 F.3d 45. The U.S. Supreme Court denied petition for writ of certiorari on February 19, 2002, 534 U.S. 1135. No published opinions were filed with these rulings.</p><p>These decisions are consistent with the Supreme Court's recent description of the census as the "linchpin of the federal statistical system  collecting data on the characteristics of individuals, households, and housing units throughout the country." Dept. of Commerce v. U.S. House of Representatives, 525 U.S. 316, 341 (1999).</p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Man , this thread is just full of constitutional scholars .
From the Census web site : It is constitutional to include questions in the decennial census beyond those concerning a simple count of the number of people .
On numerous occasions , the courts have said the Constitution gives Congress the authority to collect statistics in the census .
As early as 1870 , the Supreme Court characterized as unquestionable the power of Congress to require both an enumeration and the collection of statistics in the census .
The Legal Tender Cases , Tex.1870 ; 12 Wall. , U.S. , 457 , 536 , 20 L.Ed .
287. In 1901 , a District Court said the Constitution 's census clause ( Art .
1 , Sec .
2 , Clause 3 ) is not limited to a headcount of the population and " does not prohibit the gathering of other statistics , if 'necessary and proper, ' for the intelligent exercise of other powers enumerated in the constitution , and in such case there could be no objection to acquiring this information through the same machinery by which the population is enumerated .
" United States v. Moriarity , 106 F. 886 , 891 ( S.D.N.Y.1901 ) .The census does not violate the Fourth Amendment .
Morales v. Daley , 116 F. Supp. 2d 801 , 820 ( S.D .
Tex. 2000 ) .
In concluding that there was no basis for holding Census 2000 unconstitutional , the District Court in Morales ruled that the 2000 Census and the 2000 Census questions did not violate the Fourth Amendment or other constitutional provisions as alleged by plaintiffs .
( The Morales court said responses to census questions are not a violation of a citizen 's right to privacy or speech .
) " [ I ] t is clear that the degree to which these questions intrude upon an individual 's privacy is limited , given the methods used to collect the census data and the statutory assurance that the answers and attribution to an individual will remain confidential .
The degree to which the information is needed for the promotion of legitimate governmental interests has been found to be significant .
A census of the type of Census 2000 has been taken every ten years since the first census in 1790 .
Such a census has been thought to be necessary for over two hundred years .
There is no basis for holding that it is not necessary in the year 2000 .
" The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit affirmed the District Court decision on October 10 , 2001 , 275 F.3d 45 .
The U.S. Supreme Court denied petition for writ of certiorari on February 19 , 2002 , 534 U.S. 1135. No published opinions were filed with these rulings.These decisions are consistent with the Supreme Court 's recent description of the census as the " linchpin of the federal statistical system collecting data on the characteristics of individuals , households , and housing units throughout the country .
" Dept .
of Commerce v. U.S. House of Representatives , 525 U.S. 316 , 341 ( 1999 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man, this thread is just full of constitutional scholars.
From the Census web site:It is constitutional to include questions in the decennial census beyond those concerning a simple count of the number of people.
On numerous occasions, the courts have said the Constitution gives Congress the authority to collect statistics in the census.
As early as 1870, the Supreme Court characterized as unquestionable the power of Congress to require both an enumeration and the collection of statistics in the census.
The Legal Tender Cases, Tex.1870; 12 Wall., U.S., 457, 536, 20 L.Ed.
287. In 1901, a District Court said the Constitution's census clause (Art.
1, Sec.
2, Clause 3) is not limited to a headcount of the population and "does not prohibit the gathering of other statistics, if 'necessary and proper,' for the intelligent exercise of other powers enumerated in the constitution, and in such case there could be no objection to acquiring this information through the same machinery by which the population is enumerated.
" United States v. Moriarity, 106 F. 886, 891 (S.D.N.Y.1901).The census does not violate the Fourth Amendment.
Morales v. Daley, 116 F. Supp. 2d 801, 820 (S.D.
Tex. 2000).
In concluding that there was no basis for holding Census 2000 unconstitutional, the District Court in Morales ruled that the 2000 Census and the 2000 Census questions did not violate the Fourth Amendment or other constitutional provisions as alleged by plaintiffs.
(The Morales court said responses to census questions are not a violation of a citizen's right to privacy or speech.
) "[I]t is clear that the degree to which these questions intrude upon an individual's privacy is limited, given the methods used to collect the census data and the statutory assurance that the answers and attribution to an individual will remain confidential.
The degree to which the information is needed for the promotion of legitimate governmental interests has been found to be significant.
A census of the type of Census 2000 has been taken every ten years since the first census in 1790.
Such a census has been thought to be necessary for over two hundred years.
There is no basis for holding that it is not necessary in the year 2000.
"The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit affirmed the District Court decision on October 10, 2001, 275 F.3d 45.
The U.S. Supreme Court denied petition for writ of certiorari on February 19, 2002, 534 U.S. 1135. No published opinions were filed with these rulings.These decisions are consistent with the Supreme Court's recent description of the census as the "linchpin of the federal statistical system  collecting data on the characteristics of individuals, households, and housing units throughout the country.
" Dept.
of Commerce v. U.S. House of Representatives, 525 U.S. 316, 341 (1999). 
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31618434</id>
	<title>Re:the constitutional answer</title>
	<author>Myopic</author>
	<datestamp>1269514980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yawn. I'm glad most citizens realize the beneficial purpose of demographic data collection. Luckily, we can ignore people like you because you don't matter very much, and even if people like you became significant, your lack of answers would only hurt yourselves and help the rest of us because government services would be tailored for us and against you. So, yeah, way to stick it to the man, you rebel you.</p><p>Also, your understanding of Constitutional law is <i>astounding</i>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yawn .
I 'm glad most citizens realize the beneficial purpose of demographic data collection .
Luckily , we can ignore people like you because you do n't matter very much , and even if people like you became significant , your lack of answers would only hurt yourselves and help the rest of us because government services would be tailored for us and against you .
So , yeah , way to stick it to the man , you rebel you.Also , your understanding of Constitutional law is astounding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yawn.
I'm glad most citizens realize the beneficial purpose of demographic data collection.
Luckily, we can ignore people like you because you don't matter very much, and even if people like you became significant, your lack of answers would only hurt yourselves and help the rest of us because government services would be tailored for us and against you.
So, yeah, way to stick it to the man, you rebel you.Also, your understanding of Constitutional law is astounding.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613014</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269539640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.  We've learned.  It's called 'rendition'.  LOL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
We 've learned .
It 's called 'rendition' .
LOL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
We've learned.
It's called 'rendition'.
LOL</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612158</id>
	<title>Re:Only Box the Census Taker Will Check For Me is.</title>
	<author>Wyatt Earp</author>
	<datestamp>1269537000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the heck does the NRA have to do with the BATF going cowboy and attacking a giant complex of buildings where every adult had weapons when they could have just arrested Koresh when he went to town?</p><p>Don't whine about that NRA in this, its the DoJ and BATF who dropped the ball and got that mess going.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the heck does the NRA have to do with the BATF going cowboy and attacking a giant complex of buildings where every adult had weapons when they could have just arrested Koresh when he went to town ? Do n't whine about that NRA in this , its the DoJ and BATF who dropped the ball and got that mess going .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the heck does the NRA have to do with the BATF going cowboy and attacking a giant complex of buildings where every adult had weapons when they could have just arrested Koresh when he went to town?Don't whine about that NRA in this, its the DoJ and BATF who dropped the ball and got that mess going.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612036</id>
	<title>I'm an Immigrant</title>
	<author>TheSpoom</author>
	<datestamp>1269536640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uncle Sam already knows this and much, much, much more about me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uncle Sam already knows this and much , much , much more about me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uncle Sam already knows this and much, much, much more about me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31616768</id>
	<title>Re:I only answered the first question</title>
	<author>Sandbags</author>
	<datestamp>1269508620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suggest you read and understand this then:<br>The law</p><p>Title 13</p><p>Sec. 221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers</p><p>(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.</p><p>(b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500. (c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body.</p><p>Since they're gonna have to charge me and the other tax payers $47 to come knock on your door since you refuse to answer the form, I'm happy to hear you'll be paying at least twice that back into the tax pool to help cover my federal taxes next year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest you read and understand this then : The lawTitle 13Sec .
221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions ; false answers ( a ) Whoever , being over eighteen years of age refuses or willfully neglects , when requested by the Secretary , or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer , to answer , to the best of his knowledge , any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I , II , IV , and V of chapter 5 of this title , applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related , or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant , shall be fined not more than $ 100 .
( b ) Whoever , when answering questions described in subsection ( a ) of this section , and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection , willfully gives any answer that is false , shall be fined not more than $ 500 .
( c ) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title , no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body.Since they 're gon na have to charge me and the other tax payers $ 47 to come knock on your door since you refuse to answer the form , I 'm happy to hear you 'll be paying at least twice that back into the tax pool to help cover my federal taxes next year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest you read and understand this then:The lawTitle 13Sec.
221. Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.
(b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500.
(c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body.Since they're gonna have to charge me and the other tax payers $47 to come knock on your door since you refuse to answer the form, I'm happy to hear you'll be paying at least twice that back into the tax pool to help cover my federal taxes next year.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611436</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah, now that you put it in TV show perspective I get it!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , now that you put it in TV show perspective I get it !
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, now that you put it in TV show perspective I get it!
;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611094</id>
	<title>Re:Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[...] that would have been stupid and done nothing.</p></div><p>You must be new to politics.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ ... ] that would have been stupid and done nothing.You must be new to politics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[...] that would have been stupid and done nothing.You must be new to politics.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612802</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy Act of 1974</title>
	<author>jmac\_the\_man</author>
	<datestamp>1269538980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yeah, we did a lot of crazy things in the 40's. Misuse of census data, treatment of japanese americans, <b>tuskegee airmen.</b></p> </div><p>Letting African Americans volunteer to fly bomber escort missions was a bad thing? What are you talking about?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , we did a lot of crazy things in the 40 's .
Misuse of census data , treatment of japanese americans , tuskegee airmen .
Letting African Americans volunteer to fly bomber escort missions was a bad thing ?
What are you talking about ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, we did a lot of crazy things in the 40's.
Misuse of census data, treatment of japanese americans, tuskegee airmen.
Letting African Americans volunteer to fly bomber escort missions was a bad thing?
What are you talking about?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611760</id>
	<title>Re:Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>mr100percent</author>
	<datestamp>1269535860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Daniel Pipes, Michelle Malkin, Michael Savage all supported the idea. Ann Coulter wanted their countries invaded, leaders killed, and everyone converted to Christianity, but she didn't mention internment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Daniel Pipes , Michelle Malkin , Michael Savage all supported the idea .
Ann Coulter wanted their countries invaded , leaders killed , and everyone converted to Christianity , but she did n't mention internment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Daniel Pipes, Michelle Malkin, Michael Savage all supported the idea.
Ann Coulter wanted their countries invaded, leaders killed, and everyone converted to Christianity, but she didn't mention internment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611252</id>
	<title>What's an acceptable abuse rate?</title>
	<author>dazedNconfuzed</author>
	<datestamp>1269534300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's do a really rough calculation.</p><p>Consider the last 100 years - upper end of human lifespan and a convenient period of recent history. That is 10 censuses.<br>Most people counted are counted in more than one census, actually a lot more. Each person is counted on average maybe 5 times during that period.<br>We can reasonably ballpark (please feel free to generate more precise numbers) that the US Census process has counted about 600,000,000 individuals in the last century.<br>Some 110,000 people were "interned" during WWII. In 4 days flat one Census count went from "private" to "list of people declared illegal for no good reason".<br>Ergo, that "only case of census information being used to locate individuals" works out to an average, over a century, of a roughly better than 1 in 5000 chance of an individual's life being absolutely wrecked by filling out a Census form as requested.</p><p>1 in 10 chance of a Census being used for horrific purposes.<br>1 in 5000 chance of completing a Census form leading to wrongful imprisonment and confiscation of all personal belongings.<br>I'd say their record is pretty awful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's do a really rough calculation.Consider the last 100 years - upper end of human lifespan and a convenient period of recent history .
That is 10 censuses.Most people counted are counted in more than one census , actually a lot more .
Each person is counted on average maybe 5 times during that period.We can reasonably ballpark ( please feel free to generate more precise numbers ) that the US Census process has counted about 600,000,000 individuals in the last century.Some 110,000 people were " interned " during WWII .
In 4 days flat one Census count went from " private " to " list of people declared illegal for no good reason " .Ergo , that " only case of census information being used to locate individuals " works out to an average , over a century , of a roughly better than 1 in 5000 chance of an individual 's life being absolutely wrecked by filling out a Census form as requested.1 in 10 chance of a Census being used for horrific purposes.1 in 5000 chance of completing a Census form leading to wrongful imprisonment and confiscation of all personal belongings.I 'd say their record is pretty awful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's do a really rough calculation.Consider the last 100 years - upper end of human lifespan and a convenient period of recent history.
That is 10 censuses.Most people counted are counted in more than one census, actually a lot more.
Each person is counted on average maybe 5 times during that period.We can reasonably ballpark (please feel free to generate more precise numbers) that the US Census process has counted about 600,000,000 individuals in the last century.Some 110,000 people were "interned" during WWII.
In 4 days flat one Census count went from "private" to "list of people declared illegal for no good reason".Ergo, that "only case of census information being used to locate individuals" works out to an average, over a century, of a roughly better than 1 in 5000 chance of an individual's life being absolutely wrecked by filling out a Census form as requested.1 in 10 chance of a Census being used for horrific purposes.1 in 5000 chance of completing a Census form leading to wrongful imprisonment and confiscation of all personal belongings.I'd say their record is pretty awful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31618204</id>
	<title>Re:Sure it could happen...</title>
	<author>WeatherGod</author>
	<datestamp>1269514020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree that people are not viewing the 2003 situation in the right context.  The number of people broken down by ethnicity per zip code has been available for a long time, and so the Census Bureau did not "hand over" any special, private data to anybody.  However, the use of the 1940s data is completely unacceptable.

That being said, I wonder if we are not getting the full picture here.  What sort of actions has the Census Bureau taken since the 1940s to prevent such things from happening again?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree that people are not viewing the 2003 situation in the right context .
The number of people broken down by ethnicity per zip code has been available for a long time , and so the Census Bureau did not " hand over " any special , private data to anybody .
However , the use of the 1940s data is completely unacceptable .
That being said , I wonder if we are not getting the full picture here .
What sort of actions has the Census Bureau taken since the 1940s to prevent such things from happening again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree that people are not viewing the 2003 situation in the right context.
The number of people broken down by ethnicity per zip code has been available for a long time, and so the Census Bureau did not "hand over" any special, private data to anybody.
However, the use of the 1940s data is completely unacceptable.
That being said, I wonder if we are not getting the full picture here.
What sort of actions has the Census Bureau taken since the 1940s to prevent such things from happening again?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31617996</id>
	<title>Re:My privacy won't be violated</title>
	<author>Myopic</author>
	<datestamp>1269513060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The constitutional purpose of the census is to count people, not to figure out who rents vs. who owns their homes, or what their age/race distribution is.</i></p><p>You sounds very knowledgeable. Where did you study constitutional law?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The constitutional purpose of the census is to count people , not to figure out who rents vs. who owns their homes , or what their age/race distribution is.You sounds very knowledgeable .
Where did you study constitutional law ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The constitutional purpose of the census is to count people, not to figure out who rents vs. who owns their homes, or what their age/race distribution is.You sounds very knowledgeable.
Where did you study constitutional law?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31620948</id>
	<title>Re:Just One Race -- *HUMAN*</title>
	<author>Arker</author>
	<datestamp>1269529080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whether they count it or not is their problem, it is the scientifically correct answer, if in abbreviated form. Homo Sapiens Sapiens is the race of all human alive today. There once were other races of humans but all have been extinct for quite some time now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whether they count it or not is their problem , it is the scientifically correct answer , if in abbreviated form .
Homo Sapiens Sapiens is the race of all human alive today .
There once were other races of humans but all have been extinct for quite some time now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whether they count it or not is their problem, it is the scientifically correct answer, if in abbreviated form.
Homo Sapiens Sapiens is the race of all human alive today.
There once were other races of humans but all have been extinct for quite some time now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612334</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269537540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry.  Like a broken clock or a randomly-answered multiple-choice test, he has to be right some of the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry .
Like a broken clock or a randomly-answered multiple-choice test , he has to be right some of the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry.
Like a broken clock or a randomly-answered multiple-choice test, he has to be right some of the time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611512</id>
	<title>Re:Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>brkello</author>
	<datestamp>1269535140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Were you not in the U.S. when this happened?  You don't remember the backlash towards Arab-Americans?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Were you not in the U.S. when this happened ?
You do n't remember the backlash towards Arab-Americans ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Were you not in the U.S. when this happened?
You don't remember the backlash towards Arab-Americans?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611522</id>
	<title>Bullshit</title>
	<author>pavon</author>
	<datestamp>1269535140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If your representitive needs a national census to know who he is representing, then he should never have been a representative at all. There are many ways to learn this information, including having been involved in the community at different levels before being elected as a representative. There are also many polling organizations that provide all the demographic information that the census provides and more without the potential of tying that information to specific individuals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If your representitive needs a national census to know who he is representing , then he should never have been a representative at all .
There are many ways to learn this information , including having been involved in the community at different levels before being elected as a representative .
There are also many polling organizations that provide all the demographic information that the census provides and more without the potential of tying that information to specific individuals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your representitive needs a national census to know who he is representing, then he should never have been a representative at all.
There are many ways to learn this information, including having been involved in the community at different levels before being elected as a representative.
There are also many polling organizations that provide all the demographic information that the census provides and more without the potential of tying that information to specific individuals.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611624</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>characterZer0</author>
	<datestamp>1269535500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do not want the federal government to know that I exist in NY. If it decreases the number of terrible representatives that the stupid voters in this state keep voting to send to DC, all the better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not want the federal government to know that I exist in NY .
If it decreases the number of terrible representatives that the stupid voters in this state keep voting to send to DC , all the better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not want the federal government to know that I exist in NY.
If it decreases the number of terrible representatives that the stupid voters in this state keep voting to send to DC, all the better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614070</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1269542760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One word: GITMO.</p><p>That is a concentration camp for people, who some think are dangerous, but no proof of danger is presented, no reasons for detention are presented.</p><p>They have learned over the 70 years alright, they have learned how to make the public apathetic to any of the important stuff, like the corruption, theft of money, theft of value of money, theft of freedoms etc.  TV, papers, magazines they use TV, papers and magazines and are trying to do this with the Internet too.</p><p>No, the time passes and what happens is that the tools of oppression are getting significantly better, more scientific and more efficient.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One word : GITMO.That is a concentration camp for people , who some think are dangerous , but no proof of danger is presented , no reasons for detention are presented.They have learned over the 70 years alright , they have learned how to make the public apathetic to any of the important stuff , like the corruption , theft of money , theft of value of money , theft of freedoms etc .
TV , papers , magazines they use TV , papers and magazines and are trying to do this with the Internet too.No , the time passes and what happens is that the tools of oppression are getting significantly better , more scientific and more efficient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One word: GITMO.That is a concentration camp for people, who some think are dangerous, but no proof of danger is presented, no reasons for detention are presented.They have learned over the 70 years alright, they have learned how to make the public apathetic to any of the important stuff, like the corruption, theft of money, theft of value of money, theft of freedoms etc.
TV, papers, magazines they use TV, papers and magazines and are trying to do this with the Internet too.No, the time passes and what happens is that the tools of oppression are getting significantly better, more scientific and more efficient.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611340</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>cruff</author>
	<datestamp>1269534540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Perhaps in 1790 that's all the census needed to know (that and how may slaves you owned), but it's a far different situation now.</p></div><p>Bullshit.  The federal government does not need to know this information at all.  The purpose of the federal government is not to provide a "nanny state", which is what many in congress seem to think.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps in 1790 that 's all the census needed to know ( that and how may slaves you owned ) , but it 's a far different situation now.Bullshit .
The federal government does not need to know this information at all .
The purpose of the federal government is not to provide a " nanny state " , which is what many in congress seem to think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps in 1790 that's all the census needed to know (that and how may slaves you owned), but it's a far different situation now.Bullshit.
The federal government does not need to know this information at all.
The purpose of the federal government is not to provide a "nanny state", which is what many in congress seem to think.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610904</id>
	<title>The census isn't just about counting</title>
	<author>GodfatherofSoul</author>
	<datestamp>1269533160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I understand privacy concerns, but I also understand the valuable ways this information is used.  Things like trying to figure out the best place to locate infrastructure like schools and VA hospitals.  I remember this "debate" from 10 years ago.  Now, while you're passively rebelling against your evil government think about what answers you choose to omit from the census and how easily available that info already is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I understand privacy concerns , but I also understand the valuable ways this information is used .
Things like trying to figure out the best place to locate infrastructure like schools and VA hospitals .
I remember this " debate " from 10 years ago .
Now , while you 're passively rebelling against your evil government think about what answers you choose to omit from the census and how easily available that info already is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understand privacy concerns, but I also understand the valuable ways this information is used.
Things like trying to figure out the best place to locate infrastructure like schools and VA hospitals.
I remember this "debate" from 10 years ago.
Now, while you're passively rebelling against your evil government think about what answers you choose to omit from the census and how easily available that info already is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610646</id>
	<title>Did you catch The Daily Show and Colbert Report?</title>
	<author>BenFenner</author>
	<datestamp>1269532320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't care how many times pundits from the Census Bureau muck it up with our lord Jon and savior Steven they aren't going to convince me to answer 10 questions on a census. There is only one question I will answer on that stupid form, and if that lumps me in with the "evil" conservatives, so be it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care how many times pundits from the Census Bureau muck it up with our lord Jon and savior Steven they are n't going to convince me to answer 10 questions on a census .
There is only one question I will answer on that stupid form , and if that lumps me in with the " evil " conservatives , so be it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care how many times pundits from the Census Bureau muck it up with our lord Jon and savior Steven they aren't going to convince me to answer 10 questions on a census.
There is only one question I will answer on that stupid form, and if that lumps me in with the "evil" conservatives, so be it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611216</id>
	<title>Rush said to...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>just mark your race as " Other: American".  I didn't know American was a race.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>just mark your race as " Other : American " .
I did n't know American was a race .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just mark your race as " Other: American".
I didn't know American was a race.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612252</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>bkaul01</author>
	<datestamp>1269537300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>All other questions (SSN, birth date, birth place) are not part of the census so if anyone asks they are not acting on behalf of the census office.</p></div><p>Actually, besides names, races, and address, the 2010 Census form does ask for both age and date of birth.  (Which seems about as redundant as having mailed a letter a few weeks before the form that said they'd be mailing the form later.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>All other questions ( SSN , birth date , birth place ) are not part of the census so if anyone asks they are not acting on behalf of the census office.Actually , besides names , races , and address , the 2010 Census form does ask for both age and date of birth .
( Which seems about as redundant as having mailed a letter a few weeks before the form that said they 'd be mailing the form later .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All other questions (SSN, birth date, birth place) are not part of the census so if anyone asks they are not acting on behalf of the census office.Actually, besides names, races, and address, the 2010 Census form does ask for both age and date of birth.
(Which seems about as redundant as having mailed a letter a few weeks before the form that said they'd be mailing the form later.
)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611546</id>
	<title>First question, blue box</title>
	<author>AnonymouseUser</author>
	<datestamp>1269535260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The first question is all I'm answering. I assume, by the fact it is separated from the rest, that this is the only question the census bureau legally requires.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The first question is all I 'm answering .
I assume , by the fact it is separated from the rest , that this is the only question the census bureau legally requires .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The first question is all I'm answering.
I assume, by the fact it is separated from the rest, that this is the only question the census bureau legally requires.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610882</id>
	<title>umm</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1269533100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i> In 2003-04, the Census Bureau provided the Department of Homeland Security with a massive cache of information on how many Arab Americans lived in each ZIP Code around the nation, and which country they originated from </i>
<br>
<br>
The Census Bureau provides information on how many Arab Americans live in each zip code to everyone.  Go to the census website.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In 2003-04 , the Census Bureau provided the Department of Homeland Security with a massive cache of information on how many Arab Americans lived in each ZIP Code around the nation , and which country they originated from The Census Bureau provides information on how many Arab Americans live in each zip code to everyone .
Go to the census website .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> In 2003-04, the Census Bureau provided the Department of Homeland Security with a massive cache of information on how many Arab Americans lived in each ZIP Code around the nation, and which country they originated from 


The Census Bureau provides information on how many Arab Americans live in each zip code to everyone.
Go to the census website.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611898</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slashdot isn't far from freerepublic these days, in political leaning or critical thinking.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -Any liberal on Slashdot</p><p>Slashdot isn't far from moveon these days, in political leaning or critical thinking.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -Any conservative on Slashdot</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot is n't far from freerepublic these days , in political leaning or critical thinking .
          -Any liberal on SlashdotSlashdot is n't far from moveon these days , in political leaning or critical thinking .
          -Any conservative on Slashdot</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot isn't far from freerepublic these days, in political leaning or critical thinking.
          -Any liberal on SlashdotSlashdot isn't far from moveon these days, in political leaning or critical thinking.
          -Any conservative on Slashdot</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611532</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1269535200000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.</p></div><p>Another hypothical example: Say you filled out the census form stating that you were Japanese, and then got sent to a concentration because of that.</p><p>Oh wait, that actually happened.</p><p>Isn't it strange how people don't trust the government when it says "trust me, we'll never use the census in this way"?</p></div>
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<tokenext>To give a hypothetical example , it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.Another hypothical example : Say you filled out the census form stating that you were Japanese , and then got sent to a concentration because of that.Oh wait , that actually happened.Is n't it strange how people do n't trust the government when it says " trust me , we 'll never use the census in this way " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.Another hypothical example: Say you filled out the census form stating that you were Japanese, and then got sent to a concentration because of that.Oh wait, that actually happened.Isn't it strange how people don't trust the government when it says "trust me, we'll never use the census in this way"?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610960</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can lie about race if I wanted to because it's saying which race you consider yourself to be part of.</p></div><p>Problem is, you shouldn't have to lie about your race.<br>It shouldn't even be a question (or it should be optional).</p><p>Congress was never given the power to demand race information.<br>Just the number of people (including slaves (gotta love the south)) to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article\_One\_of\_the\_United\_States\_Constitution#Clause\_3:\_Apportionment\_of\_Representatives\_and\_taxes" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">determine the number of seats in congress for the state.</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Seems like Congress has gotten full of itself with power again, first by being able to demand information and then by asking questions irrelevant to its duties.<br>If I don't want to participate in the Census, I should not be required to. All it does is reduce my state's voting power.<br>So it's kind of like being required to vote.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I can lie about race if I wanted to because it 's saying which race you consider yourself to be part of.Problem is , you should n't have to lie about your race.It should n't even be a question ( or it should be optional ) .Congress was never given the power to demand race information.Just the number of people ( including slaves ( got ta love the south ) ) to determine the number of seats in congress for the state .
[ wikipedia.org ] Seems like Congress has gotten full of itself with power again , first by being able to demand information and then by asking questions irrelevant to its duties.If I do n't want to participate in the Census , I should not be required to .
All it does is reduce my state 's voting power.So it 's kind of like being required to vote .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can lie about race if I wanted to because it's saying which race you consider yourself to be part of.Problem is, you shouldn't have to lie about your race.It shouldn't even be a question (or it should be optional).Congress was never given the power to demand race information.Just the number of people (including slaves (gotta love the south)) to determine the number of seats in congress for the state.
[wikipedia.org]Seems like Congress has gotten full of itself with power again, first by being able to demand information and then by asking questions irrelevant to its duties.If I don't want to participate in the Census, I should not be required to.
All it does is reduce my state's voting power.So it's kind of like being required to vote.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613454</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269541080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Birthdate *IS* asked for in the census form, along with US/non-US race.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Birthdate * IS * asked for in the census form , along with US/non-US race .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Birthdate *IS* asked for in the census form, along with US/non-US race.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614840</id>
	<title>Re:My privacy won't be violated</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269545220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The form you have to fill out to pay the fine, however, will be extensive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The form you have to fill out to pay the fine , however , will be extensive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The form you have to fill out to pay the fine, however, will be extensive.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611894</id>
	<title>Re:Compare and contrast these "concentration camps</title>
	<author>DannyO152</author>
	<datestamp>1269536220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And in Hawaii, no people of Japanese origin or ancestry were taken to camps. There were too many. Senator Inouye (I read an autobiograhical article of his in the 1960s in Reader's Digest) says their radios were confiscated and the population was told there were things they could not do, but they got to keep their property and stay in their homes.</p><p>Seeing the different treatment for the people in Hawaii and for people whose origins went to the European Axis nations, the Sansei and the Nisei of the West Coast are fairly well convinced that at its heart, the internment was initiated by racist opportunists who seized upon a national emergency to convince authorities to expel a successful group of economic competitors. Those who disagree with that assertion claim the internment was strictly motivated by war necessities.</p><p>The big picture lesson I learned when back in the 70s when I studied the period and heard from the people who were interned, is that people who want to infringe on individual rights, who want a loosening of privacy or due process safeguards and who want a streamlined granting of public sector contracts (to them or their friends) know that getting the government to declare something a war is the most effective means. Because, in a real war, reasonable people accept those things as temporary necessities.</p><p>Returning to our Census Bureau and World War II and the hysteria on the West Coast and what it means today, I say fill out the census. Long after we're gone, the details will become available to researchers and their understanding of who we were and how we lived will be better. Aggregate statistics are helpful for our contemporary understanding of who we are. Plus, don't for a second think that the Census data is the only way for identifying people to round up. At the very least, there are those other tried and true methods, making lists from public sources and paying bounties to informants. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And in Hawaii , no people of Japanese origin or ancestry were taken to camps .
There were too many .
Senator Inouye ( I read an autobiograhical article of his in the 1960s in Reader 's Digest ) says their radios were confiscated and the population was told there were things they could not do , but they got to keep their property and stay in their homes.Seeing the different treatment for the people in Hawaii and for people whose origins went to the European Axis nations , the Sansei and the Nisei of the West Coast are fairly well convinced that at its heart , the internment was initiated by racist opportunists who seized upon a national emergency to convince authorities to expel a successful group of economic competitors .
Those who disagree with that assertion claim the internment was strictly motivated by war necessities.The big picture lesson I learned when back in the 70s when I studied the period and heard from the people who were interned , is that people who want to infringe on individual rights , who want a loosening of privacy or due process safeguards and who want a streamlined granting of public sector contracts ( to them or their friends ) know that getting the government to declare something a war is the most effective means .
Because , in a real war , reasonable people accept those things as temporary necessities.Returning to our Census Bureau and World War II and the hysteria on the West Coast and what it means today , I say fill out the census .
Long after we 're gone , the details will become available to researchers and their understanding of who we were and how we lived will be better .
Aggregate statistics are helpful for our contemporary understanding of who we are .
Plus , do n't for a second think that the Census data is the only way for identifying people to round up .
At the very least , there are those other tried and true methods , making lists from public sources and paying bounties to informants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And in Hawaii, no people of Japanese origin or ancestry were taken to camps.
There were too many.
Senator Inouye (I read an autobiograhical article of his in the 1960s in Reader's Digest) says their radios were confiscated and the population was told there were things they could not do, but they got to keep their property and stay in their homes.Seeing the different treatment for the people in Hawaii and for people whose origins went to the European Axis nations, the Sansei and the Nisei of the West Coast are fairly well convinced that at its heart, the internment was initiated by racist opportunists who seized upon a national emergency to convince authorities to expel a successful group of economic competitors.
Those who disagree with that assertion claim the internment was strictly motivated by war necessities.The big picture lesson I learned when back in the 70s when I studied the period and heard from the people who were interned, is that people who want to infringe on individual rights, who want a loosening of privacy or due process safeguards and who want a streamlined granting of public sector contracts (to them or their friends) know that getting the government to declare something a war is the most effective means.
Because, in a real war, reasonable people accept those things as temporary necessities.Returning to our Census Bureau and World War II and the hysteria on the West Coast and what it means today, I say fill out the census.
Long after we're gone, the details will become available to researchers and their understanding of who we were and how we lived will be better.
Aggregate statistics are helpful for our contemporary understanding of who we are.
Plus, don't for a second think that the Census data is the only way for identifying people to round up.
At the very least, there are those other tried and true methods, making lists from public sources and paying bounties to informants. </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31619476</id>
	<title>Re:Did you catch The Daily Show and Colbert Report</title>
	<author>snowgirl</author>
	<datestamp>1269520560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As I was filling out the Census Form for our household, I asked my roommate the questions.  She was absolutely surprised at how short it was, and was full of "so why are people freaking out about this?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As I was filling out the Census Form for our household , I asked my roommate the questions .
She was absolutely surprised at how short it was , and was full of " so why are people freaking out about this ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As I was filling out the Census Form for our household, I asked my roommate the questions.
She was absolutely surprised at how short it was, and was full of "so why are people freaking out about this?
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613066</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269539760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So what you're saying is that if I'm a poor black person, I don't get counted when it comes to counting constituents. Or do I count doubly-so because I may be unruly?</p><p>In a land where there is supposedly equal rights, we need to move towards treating everyone equal. Don't give someone something because of their race/sex/religion/etc. Give it to them because they've earned it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what you 're saying is that if I 'm a poor black person , I do n't get counted when it comes to counting constituents .
Or do I count doubly-so because I may be unruly ? In a land where there is supposedly equal rights , we need to move towards treating everyone equal .
Do n't give someone something because of their race/sex/religion/etc .
Give it to them because they 've earned it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what you're saying is that if I'm a poor black person, I don't get counted when it comes to counting constituents.
Or do I count doubly-so because I may be unruly?In a land where there is supposedly equal rights, we need to move towards treating everyone equal.
Don't give someone something because of their race/sex/religion/etc.
Give it to them because they've earned it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612592</id>
	<title>Census Data private?</title>
	<author>Curunir\_wolf</author>
	<datestamp>1269538380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Will Your Answers To the Census Stay Private?</p></div><p> <b>No.</b> </p><p>
 ---  Captain Obvious</p></div>
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<tokenext>Will Your Answers To the Census Stay Private ?
No . --- Captain Obvious</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Will Your Answers To the Census Stay Private?
No. 
 ---  Captain Obvious
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611722</id>
	<title>Maybe it says America is smarter than Ayn Rand?</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1269535740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously. To quote a line of Benecio del Toro in Snatch "Just because it's written, doesn't make it so." You can find a quote to say almost anything you like. Notice that I did just that. Doesn't mean that your quote is right, that the argument is over.</p><p>Any Rand is not the be-all, end-all of philosophy. In fact, Ayn Rand is not even particularly good philosophy. If you read Atlas Shrugged and it blew your mind, then I suggest you take some time to read some more, better philosophy and broaden your horizons. Any Rand is not the be-all, end-all. You might notice that society doesn't follow how she thinks it should be. Perhaps that tells you something.</p><p>Or you can go play Bioshock, a distopia based on the idea of implementing a Randian society and the problems that result.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></div>
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<tokenext>Seriously .
To quote a line of Benecio del Toro in Snatch " Just because it 's written , does n't make it so .
" You can find a quote to say almost anything you like .
Notice that I did just that .
Does n't mean that your quote is right , that the argument is over.Any Rand is not the be-all , end-all of philosophy .
In fact , Ayn Rand is not even particularly good philosophy .
If you read Atlas Shrugged and it blew your mind , then I suggest you take some time to read some more , better philosophy and broaden your horizons .
Any Rand is not the be-all , end-all .
You might notice that society does n't follow how she thinks it should be .
Perhaps that tells you something.Or you can go play Bioshock , a distopia based on the idea of implementing a Randian society and the problems that result .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.
To quote a line of Benecio del Toro in Snatch "Just because it's written, doesn't make it so.
" You can find a quote to say almost anything you like.
Notice that I did just that.
Doesn't mean that your quote is right, that the argument is over.Any Rand is not the be-all, end-all of philosophy.
In fact, Ayn Rand is not even particularly good philosophy.
If you read Atlas Shrugged and it blew your mind, then I suggest you take some time to read some more, better philosophy and broaden your horizons.
Any Rand is not the be-all, end-all.
You might notice that society doesn't follow how she thinks it should be.
Perhaps that tells you something.Or you can go play Bioshock, a distopia based on the idea of implementing a Randian society and the problems that result.
:D
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610652</id>
	<title>Only Box the Census Taker Will Check For Me is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[  x  ]  Gun Owner.</p><p>If he's smart enough and fast enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ x ] Gun Owner.If he 's smart enough and fast enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[  x  ]  Gun Owner.If he's smart enough and fast enough.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610756</id>
	<title>Answers to the Census are protected by Title 13</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check out:</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title\_13\_of\_the\_United\_States\_Code</p><p>The Census Bureau collects information and creates statistics. The actual answers are hands off.</p><p>Title 13 was not around in 1940.</p><p>Giving the security agencies statistical information about a particular group of people is no big deal. The information was probably out there already and public.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title \ _13 \ _of \ _the \ _United \ _States \ _CodeThe Census Bureau collects information and creates statistics .
The actual answers are hands off.Title 13 was not around in 1940.Giving the security agencies statistical information about a particular group of people is no big deal .
The information was probably out there already and public .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title\_13\_of\_the\_United\_States\_CodeThe Census Bureau collects information and creates statistics.
The actual answers are hands off.Title 13 was not around in 1940.Giving the security agencies statistical information about a particular group of people is no big deal.
The information was probably out there already and public.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610834</id>
	<title>My privacy won't be violated</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't give them any information to leak or misuse.  The constitutional purpose of the census is to count people, not to figure out who rents vs. who owns their homes, or what their age/race distribution is.  So that's what I gave them.  A complete and accurate count of the people living in my home.

</p><p>Per Title 13, they could fine me $100 for failing to complete the form.  I don't think that'll happen, but it's worth $100 to me to stand on the principle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't give them any information to leak or misuse .
The constitutional purpose of the census is to count people , not to figure out who rents vs. who owns their homes , or what their age/race distribution is .
So that 's what I gave them .
A complete and accurate count of the people living in my home .
Per Title 13 , they could fine me $ 100 for failing to complete the form .
I do n't think that 'll happen , but it 's worth $ 100 to me to stand on the principle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't give them any information to leak or misuse.
The constitutional purpose of the census is to count people, not to figure out who rents vs. who owns their homes, or what their age/race distribution is.
So that's what I gave them.
A complete and accurate count of the people living in my home.
Per Title 13, they could fine me $100 for failing to complete the form.
I don't think that'll happen, but it's worth $100 to me to stand on the principle.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612920</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269539280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone who is sick and tired of the race obsession that seems to be so prevalent with our government (and many citizens), I checked "Other" and wrote in "AMERICAN" in the blanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who is sick and tired of the race obsession that seems to be so prevalent with our government ( and many citizens ) , I checked " Other " and wrote in " AMERICAN " in the blanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who is sick and tired of the race obsession that seems to be so prevalent with our government (and many citizens), I checked "Other" and wrote in "AMERICAN" in the blanks.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>ObsessiveMathsFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1269537120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Socioeconomic and ethnic data is important in determining the types of services various areas need and plays an important part in know just who an "American" really is.</p></div></blockquote><p>Does it? Does it really? Is all this information overload really that useful? Is it being collected because it is actually useful, or just because the Central Statistics Office has an insatiable urge to know as many details as it can feasibly get (This isn't necessarily a malicious desire; just a dysfunctional one).</p><p>Here's an example of some of the questions that came around in the 2006 Irish Census (Bear in mind the population is only ~4 million).</p><blockquote><div><p> <b>Question H1</b>)<br>What type of accommodation does your household occupy?</p><p>A whole house or bungalow that is:<br>* Detached<br>* Semi-detacted<br>* Terraced<br>A flat or apartment that is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... etc</p><p><b>Question  H5</b>) How many rooms do you have in your household?</p><p><b>Question P1-9</b>) Where did you usually live a year ago?</p><p><b>Question P1-18</b>) What time do you usually leave home to go to work, school or college?</p><p><b>Question P1-33</b>) What is (was) the business of your employer at the place where you work(ed) in your main job?</p></div></blockquote><p>Needless to say, the form took about three hours to fill in.</p><p>I thought the census was supposed to be about counting the number of people in the country, not simulating an interrogation by the local village busybody. Though this time, instead of the valley of the squinting windows, it's the Panopticon of the slavering database clients.</p><p>Needless to say, the next time that form comes around in 2011, there is going to be an obscene amount of questions, potentially done either online or using a computer. Speaking for myself, I'm just not going to fill it out.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Socioeconomic and ethnic data is important in determining the types of services various areas need and plays an important part in know just who an " American " really is.Does it ?
Does it really ?
Is all this information overload really that useful ?
Is it being collected because it is actually useful , or just because the Central Statistics Office has an insatiable urge to know as many details as it can feasibly get ( This is n't necessarily a malicious desire ; just a dysfunctional one ) .Here 's an example of some of the questions that came around in the 2006 Irish Census ( Bear in mind the population is only ~ 4 million ) .
Question H1 ) What type of accommodation does your household occupy ? A whole house or bungalow that is : * Detached * Semi-detacted * TerracedA flat or apartment that is .... etcQuestion H5 ) How many rooms do you have in your household ? Question P1-9 ) Where did you usually live a year ago ? Question P1-18 ) What time do you usually leave home to go to work , school or college ? Question P1-33 ) What is ( was ) the business of your employer at the place where you work ( ed ) in your main job ? Needless to say , the form took about three hours to fill in.I thought the census was supposed to be about counting the number of people in the country , not simulating an interrogation by the local village busybody .
Though this time , instead of the valley of the squinting windows , it 's the Panopticon of the slavering database clients.Needless to say , the next time that form comes around in 2011 , there is going to be an obscene amount of questions , potentially done either online or using a computer .
Speaking for myself , I 'm just not going to fill it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Socioeconomic and ethnic data is important in determining the types of services various areas need and plays an important part in know just who an "American" really is.Does it?
Does it really?
Is all this information overload really that useful?
Is it being collected because it is actually useful, or just because the Central Statistics Office has an insatiable urge to know as many details as it can feasibly get (This isn't necessarily a malicious desire; just a dysfunctional one).Here's an example of some of the questions that came around in the 2006 Irish Census (Bear in mind the population is only ~4 million).
Question H1)What type of accommodation does your household occupy?A whole house or bungalow that is:* Detached* Semi-detacted* TerracedA flat or apartment that is .... etcQuestion  H5) How many rooms do you have in your household?Question P1-9) Where did you usually live a year ago?Question P1-18) What time do you usually leave home to go to work, school or college?Question P1-33) What is (was) the business of your employer at the place where you work(ed) in your main job?Needless to say, the form took about three hours to fill in.I thought the census was supposed to be about counting the number of people in the country, not simulating an interrogation by the local village busybody.
Though this time, instead of the valley of the squinting windows, it's the Panopticon of the slavering database clients.Needless to say, the next time that form comes around in 2011, there is going to be an obscene amount of questions, potentially done either online or using a computer.
Speaking for myself, I'm just not going to fill it out.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611982</id>
	<title>Long/short form</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are different census forms for different addresses.  I got the short form this time, but I've had the 30+ pg form previously. I guess which address receives which form is statistically selected.</p><p>Declaring yourself as a minority on the form has benefits for your community. I don't declare it, since we are all human.</p><p>I've seen fairly accurate data that estimated all sorts of things about me based only on my age and address. This was created by a mix of census and market data publicly available. They knew my income, my automobile make, and my education. I can't recall anything else, but the automobile was just scary since I was living in an apartment with 400 other people and most didn't drive that vehicle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are different census forms for different addresses .
I got the short form this time , but I 've had the 30 + pg form previously .
I guess which address receives which form is statistically selected.Declaring yourself as a minority on the form has benefits for your community .
I do n't declare it , since we are all human.I 've seen fairly accurate data that estimated all sorts of things about me based only on my age and address .
This was created by a mix of census and market data publicly available .
They knew my income , my automobile make , and my education .
I ca n't recall anything else , but the automobile was just scary since I was living in an apartment with 400 other people and most did n't drive that vehicle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are different census forms for different addresses.
I got the short form this time, but I've had the 30+ pg form previously.
I guess which address receives which form is statistically selected.Declaring yourself as a minority on the form has benefits for your community.
I don't declare it, since we are all human.I've seen fairly accurate data that estimated all sorts of things about me based only on my age and address.
This was created by a mix of census and market data publicly available.
They knew my income, my automobile make, and my education.
I can't recall anything else, but the automobile was just scary since I was living in an apartment with 400 other people and most didn't drive that vehicle.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610858</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>According to TFA: "James Bovard, who worked as a census taker in 1980, is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... a policy adviser to the Future of Freedom Foundation."
<p>
From the <a href="http://www.fff.org/aboutUs/index.asp" title="fff.org" rel="nofollow">FFF website</a> [fff.org]: "for well over a century, the American people said "No" to such anti-free-market government policies as income taxation, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, immigration controls, economic regulations, drug laws, gun control, public schooling, and foreign wars...The time has come for us to reevaluate our relationship to our government &mdash; to repeal, not reform, these immoral and destructive government programs"
</p><p>
None of that changes the facts of this matter, but like you, I'm not very happy about the company I'm keeping right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to TFA : " James Bovard , who worked as a census taker in 1980 , is ... a policy adviser to the Future of Freedom Foundation .
" From the FFF website [ fff.org ] : " for well over a century , the American people said " No " to such anti-free-market government policies as income taxation , Social Security , Medicare , Medicaid , welfare , immigration controls , economic regulations , drug laws , gun control , public schooling , and foreign wars...The time has come for us to reevaluate our relationship to our government    to repeal , not reform , these immoral and destructive government programs " None of that changes the facts of this matter , but like you , I 'm not very happy about the company I 'm keeping right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to TFA: "James Bovard, who worked as a census taker in 1980, is ... a policy adviser to the Future of Freedom Foundation.
"

From the FFF website [fff.org]: "for well over a century, the American people said "No" to such anti-free-market government policies as income taxation, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, immigration controls, economic regulations, drug laws, gun control, public schooling, and foreign wars...The time has come for us to reevaluate our relationship to our government — to repeal, not reform, these immoral and destructive government programs"

None of that changes the facts of this matter, but like you, I'm not very happy about the company I'm keeping right now.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613384</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269540840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous. It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt. know as much about the people they represent as possible. If they don't know facts about, say, the social and financial background of their constituents, how can they govern effectively?</p><p>To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.</p></div><p>Ah, but what if you are a repub in a blue state or a dem in a red state?  Then filling out the census only gives more representation to the side you do not agree with.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous .
It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt .
know as much about the people they represent as possible .
If they do n't know facts about , say , the social and financial background of their constituents , how can they govern effectively ? To give a hypothetical example , it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.Ah , but what if you are a repub in a blue state or a dem in a red state ?
Then filling out the census only gives more representation to the side you do not agree with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous.
It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt.
know as much about the people they represent as possible.
If they don't know facts about, say, the social and financial background of their constituents, how can they govern effectively?To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.Ah, but what if you are a repub in a blue state or a dem in a red state?
Then filling out the census only gives more representation to the side you do not agree with.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611650</id>
	<title>Re:Census Info Ultimately Becomes Public</title>
	<author>swillden</author>
	<datestamp>1269535560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But filling them out provides valuable data today for all kinds of things, from predicting how many students will enroll in your public schools to how many representatives you'll have in local, state, and federal elections.</p></div><p>First, why is any of the demographic data beyond number of school-age children and number of voting-age adults necessary for either of those things.

</p><p>Second, why does the federal government need any of that?  Congressional representation doesn't depend on the number of voters in the state, just on the number of <i>people</i> in the state.  And the federal government has no role in managing public school enrollment, that's a state/local function.

</p><p>So do you have any <i>good</i> examples about why we should provide this information?</p></div>
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<tokenext>But filling them out provides valuable data today for all kinds of things , from predicting how many students will enroll in your public schools to how many representatives you 'll have in local , state , and federal elections.First , why is any of the demographic data beyond number of school-age children and number of voting-age adults necessary for either of those things .
Second , why does the federal government need any of that ?
Congressional representation does n't depend on the number of voters in the state , just on the number of people in the state .
And the federal government has no role in managing public school enrollment , that 's a state/local function .
So do you have any good examples about why we should provide this information ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But filling them out provides valuable data today for all kinds of things, from predicting how many students will enroll in your public schools to how many representatives you'll have in local, state, and federal elections.First, why is any of the demographic data beyond number of school-age children and number of voting-age adults necessary for either of those things.
Second, why does the federal government need any of that?
Congressional representation doesn't depend on the number of voters in the state, just on the number of people in the state.
And the federal government has no role in managing public school enrollment, that's a state/local function.
So do you have any good examples about why we should provide this information?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610672</id>
	<title>Compare and contrast these "concentration camps" w</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Compare and contrast these "concentration camps" with the Nazi version of "concentration camps".</p><p>Germans were soundly rounded up as well.  I think the Italians got a free ride in WWII, and God only knows where the Irish were sent.  Dubuque, I heard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Compare and contrast these " concentration camps " with the Nazi version of " concentration camps " .Germans were soundly rounded up as well .
I think the Italians got a free ride in WWII , and God only knows where the Irish were sent .
Dubuque , I heard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Compare and contrast these "concentration camps" with the Nazi version of "concentration camps".Germans were soundly rounded up as well.
I think the Italians got a free ride in WWII, and God only knows where the Irish were sent.
Dubuque, I heard.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611484</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>jdossey</author>
	<datestamp>1269535020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Socioeconomic and ethnic data is important in determining the types of services various areas need<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.</p></div><p>Isn't that racial profiling?</p></div>
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<tokenext>Socioeconomic and ethnic data is important in determining the types of services various areas need .Is n't that racial profiling ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Socioeconomic and ethnic data is important in determining the types of services various areas need .Isn't that racial profiling?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611402</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You seem to be under the impression that they can effectively govern if we do tell them stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You seem to be under the impression that they can effectively govern if we do tell them stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You seem to be under the impression that they can effectively govern if we do tell them stuff.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610764</id>
	<title>Not to defend the US government...</title>
	<author>Enry</author>
	<datestamp>1269532680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But:</p><p>1) Saying that census data will 'never be used against you' and 'are protected by US privacy laws' is nowhere near the same thing.<br>2) The NY Times article about Arab Americans in each ZIP code was using publicly available data from the census.  As with medical records, the data used by DHS was deidentified.</p><p>So in the end, I have faith that the answers I give will stay private, though I understand that information that identify me as a community will be available - that's one of the points of the census!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But : 1 ) Saying that census data will 'never be used against you ' and 'are protected by US privacy laws ' is nowhere near the same thing.2 ) The NY Times article about Arab Americans in each ZIP code was using publicly available data from the census .
As with medical records , the data used by DHS was deidentified.So in the end , I have faith that the answers I give will stay private , though I understand that information that identify me as a community will be available - that 's one of the points of the census !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But:1) Saying that census data will 'never be used against you' and 'are protected by US privacy laws' is nowhere near the same thing.2) The NY Times article about Arab Americans in each ZIP code was using publicly available data from the census.
As with medical records, the data used by DHS was deidentified.So in the end, I have faith that the answers I give will stay private, though I understand that information that identify me as a community will be available - that's one of the points of the census!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614644</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269544680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.</i> </p><p>The fundamental problem is that the government is disbursing funds and making decisions <b>based</b> on race, gender, and financial background.  A truly ethical government would ask for less information, because it would be useless to a well regulated and constitutionally limited state.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To give a hypothetical example , it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled .
The fundamental problem is that the government is disbursing funds and making decisions based on race , gender , and financial background .
A truly ethical government would ask for less information , because it would be useless to a well regulated and constitutionally limited state .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.
The fundamental problem is that the government is disbursing funds and making decisions based on race, gender, and financial background.
A truly ethical government would ask for less information, because it would be useless to a well regulated and constitutionally limited state.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612690</id>
	<title>Re:Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>dkleinsc</author>
	<datestamp>1269538680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No-one wanted to "round up Arabs" since that would have been stupid and done nothing.</p></div><p>Since when has that stopped a significant portion of Americans from engaging in good old fashioned racist violence?</p></div>
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<tokenext>No-one wanted to " round up Arabs " since that would have been stupid and done nothing.Since when has that stopped a significant portion of Americans from engaging in good old fashioned racist violence ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No-one wanted to "round up Arabs" since that would have been stupid and done nothing.Since when has that stopped a significant portion of Americans from engaging in good old fashioned racist violence?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613968</id>
	<title>Re:Just the number of residents?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269542460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Jefferson wasn't evil, just schizophrenic.</p><p>He probably wouldn't have filled out the forms himself (as a show of protest) that he was asking everyone else to fill out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jefferson was n't evil , just schizophrenic.He probably would n't have filled out the forms himself ( as a show of protest ) that he was asking everyone else to fill out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jefferson wasn't evil, just schizophrenic.He probably wouldn't have filled out the forms himself (as a show of protest) that he was asking everyone else to fill out.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31615194</id>
	<title>Re:Census Info Ultimately Becomes Public</title>
	<author>misterooga</author>
	<datestamp>1269546420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean you are not an illegal immigrant or a terrorist...yet. (under the government's eyes) Who knows, perhaps in years to come, anyone with id *moose* will be labeled as PETA member and be subject to terrorist acts.</p><p>I kid, but the point here is that just because you got nothing to hide... is a bad argument.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean you are not an illegal immigrant or a terrorist...yet .
( under the government 's eyes ) Who knows , perhaps in years to come , anyone with id * moose * will be labeled as PETA member and be subject to terrorist acts.I kid , but the point here is that just because you got nothing to hide... is a bad argument .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean you are not an illegal immigrant or a terrorist...yet.
(under the government's eyes) Who knows, perhaps in years to come, anyone with id *moose* will be labeled as PETA member and be subject to terrorist acts.I kid, but the point here is that just because you got nothing to hide... is a bad argument.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613560</id>
	<title>Re:Will census data stay private?</title>
	<author>vxice</author>
	<datestamp>1269541380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>mostly it is the fact that a. it is required by law and b. it is all in one place.  One database is much easier to search than thousands of them especially once 'inconsistencies' are found.</htmltext>
<tokenext>mostly it is the fact that a. it is required by law and b. it is all in one place .
One database is much easier to search than thousands of them especially once 'inconsistencies ' are found .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mostly it is the fact that a. it is required by law and b. it is all in one place.
One database is much easier to search than thousands of them especially once 'inconsistencies' are found.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612130</id>
	<title>Re:Not this again...</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1269536940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>70 years ago a bear came down from the hills and a large number of children. The people of the town bought an automatic defense system to keep the bear from coming down and eating any more children. A bear hasn't been in the town now for seven decades and the children have been safe from bear attacks.</p><p>Is it safe to stop worrying about the bears? Can we assume that the bear is dead and that we no longer have to protect against attack?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>70 years ago a bear came down from the hills and a large number of children .
The people of the town bought an automatic defense system to keep the bear from coming down and eating any more children .
A bear has n't been in the town now for seven decades and the children have been safe from bear attacks.Is it safe to stop worrying about the bears ?
Can we assume that the bear is dead and that we no longer have to protect against attack ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>70 years ago a bear came down from the hills and a large number of children.
The people of the town bought an automatic defense system to keep the bear from coming down and eating any more children.
A bear hasn't been in the town now for seven decades and the children have been safe from bear attacks.Is it safe to stop worrying about the bears?
Can we assume that the bear is dead and that we no longer have to protect against attack?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611332</id>
	<title>Re:Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>LordKazan</author>
	<datestamp>1269534540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hate to reiterate the AC - but Ann Coulter did advocate this.  The right has some serious reactionary pisspantses among its ranks these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hate to reiterate the AC - but Ann Coulter did advocate this .
The right has some serious reactionary pisspantses among its ranks these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hate to reiterate the AC - but Ann Coulter did advocate this.
The right has some serious reactionary pisspantses among its ranks these days.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31615918</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>sorak</author>
	<datestamp>1269548820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous. It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt. know as much about the people they represent as possible. If they don't know facts about, say, the social and financial background of their constituents, how can they govern effectively?</p><p>To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.</p></div><p>Not it's not. When I go to vote, my answer to every question is a write-in: "none of your business". I then complete my vote by writing "down with socialized law enforcement", and urinating on the voting machine.</p><p>That'll show 'em to ask questions about me!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous .
It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt .
know as much about the people they represent as possible .
If they do n't know facts about , say , the social and financial background of their constituents , how can they govern effectively ? To give a hypothetical example , it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.Not it 's not .
When I go to vote , my answer to every question is a write-in : " none of your business " .
I then complete my vote by writing " down with socialized law enforcement " , and urinating on the voting machine.That 'll show 'em to ask questions about me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous.
It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt.
know as much about the people they represent as possible.
If they don't know facts about, say, the social and financial background of their constituents, how can they govern effectively?To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.Not it's not.
When I go to vote, my answer to every question is a write-in: "none of your business".
I then complete my vote by writing "down with socialized law enforcement", and urinating on the voting machine.That'll show 'em to ask questions about me!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610714</id>
	<title>Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What bullshit. The privacy protections regarding census answers were put in place AFTER the Japanese internment camps as a RESPONSE. This summary reads as is those protections were disregarded in that roundup, and then darkly speculates on what could have been after 9/11, if those privacy protections had been disregarded.</p><p>Slashdot isn't far from freerepublic these days, in political leaning or critical thinking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What bullshit .
The privacy protections regarding census answers were put in place AFTER the Japanese internment camps as a RESPONSE .
This summary reads as is those protections were disregarded in that roundup , and then darkly speculates on what could have been after 9/11 , if those privacy protections had been disregarded.Slashdot is n't far from freerepublic these days , in political leaning or critical thinking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What bullshit.
The privacy protections regarding census answers were put in place AFTER the Japanese internment camps as a RESPONSE.
This summary reads as is those protections were disregarded in that roundup, and then darkly speculates on what could have been after 9/11, if those privacy protections had been disregarded.Slashdot isn't far from freerepublic these days, in political leaning or critical thinking.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612032</id>
	<title>Need Better Advice</title>
	<author>CopaceticOpus</author>
	<datestamp>1269536640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA:</p><blockquote><div><p>The more information the government collects on people, the more control it will have over them. The Constitution requires that the population be counted every 10 years to apportion seats in the House of Representatives. All the census really needs to know is how many people live at each address. Citizens should refuse to answer any census question except for the number of residents. A partial boycott of the census questionnaire is a tiny but important step to safeguard our remaining liberties. Citizens are not obliged to pave the data highway for Leviathan's next intrusion into their lives.</p></div></blockquote><p>Does anyone know the legal and practical implications of following this advice? I've heard talk of a $100 fine and a $5000 fine, but I don't know how those are applied. If I follow this advice, will a census person come to my house to request more information? Can I refuse them without penalty? Please provide citations if possible.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : The more information the government collects on people , the more control it will have over them .
The Constitution requires that the population be counted every 10 years to apportion seats in the House of Representatives .
All the census really needs to know is how many people live at each address .
Citizens should refuse to answer any census question except for the number of residents .
A partial boycott of the census questionnaire is a tiny but important step to safeguard our remaining liberties .
Citizens are not obliged to pave the data highway for Leviathan 's next intrusion into their lives.Does anyone know the legal and practical implications of following this advice ?
I 've heard talk of a $ 100 fine and a $ 5000 fine , but I do n't know how those are applied .
If I follow this advice , will a census person come to my house to request more information ?
Can I refuse them without penalty ?
Please provide citations if possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:The more information the government collects on people, the more control it will have over them.
The Constitution requires that the population be counted every 10 years to apportion seats in the House of Representatives.
All the census really needs to know is how many people live at each address.
Citizens should refuse to answer any census question except for the number of residents.
A partial boycott of the census questionnaire is a tiny but important step to safeguard our remaining liberties.
Citizens are not obliged to pave the data highway for Leviathan's next intrusion into their lives.Does anyone know the legal and practical implications of following this advice?
I've heard talk of a $100 fine and a $5000 fine, but I don't know how those are applied.
If I follow this advice, will a census person come to my house to request more information?
Can I refuse them without penalty?
Please provide citations if possible.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613446</id>
	<title>Re:Who advocated rounding up the arab population?</title>
	<author>pla</author>
	<datestamp>1269541020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>No-one wanted to "round up arabs" since that would have been stupid and done nothing.</i> <br>
<br>
Wow, excellent grammar and spelling, for an 8 year old!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)<br>
<br>
Seriously, do you remember the post-9/11 anti-Arab/anti-Islamic fervor that swept the US?  Even
otherwise-rational, compassionate people advocated some rather unpleasant measures.<br>
<br>
Now, <i>most</i> of that has died down, almost a decade later.  But if you don't seriously believe far too many
people still want to round up and deport (or even kill) "them"... Well, I wouldn't recommend wearing a hajib in
public in a few entire <i>states</i>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No-one wanted to " round up arabs " since that would have been stupid and done nothing .
Wow , excellent grammar and spelling , for an 8 year old !
; ) Seriously , do you remember the post-9/11 anti-Arab/anti-Islamic fervor that swept the US ?
Even otherwise-rational , compassionate people advocated some rather unpleasant measures .
Now , most of that has died down , almost a decade later .
But if you do n't seriously believe far too many people still want to round up and deport ( or even kill ) " them " ... Well , I would n't recommend wearing a hajib in public in a few entire states .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No-one wanted to "round up arabs" since that would have been stupid and done nothing.
Wow, excellent grammar and spelling, for an 8 year old!
;)

Seriously, do you remember the post-9/11 anti-Arab/anti-Islamic fervor that swept the US?
Even
otherwise-rational, compassionate people advocated some rather unpleasant measures.
Now, most of that has died down, almost a decade later.
But if you don't seriously believe far too many
people still want to round up and deport (or even kill) "them"... Well, I wouldn't recommend wearing a hajib in
public in a few entire states.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610800</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612892</id>
	<title>Re:Compare and contrast these "concentration camps</title>
	<author>blackraven14250</author>
	<datestamp>1269539220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wisconsin is a state with an awfully small population to use as a guideline for "we can't lock up that many people by throwing them into a giant fenced area and posting guards in towers with guns". Especially since, if you took every single person in Wisconsin and did that today, it's less than the number of Jews alone killed by the Germans.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wisconsin is a state with an awfully small population to use as a guideline for " we ca n't lock up that many people by throwing them into a giant fenced area and posting guards in towers with guns " .
Especially since , if you took every single person in Wisconsin and did that today , it 's less than the number of Jews alone killed by the Germans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wisconsin is a state with an awfully small population to use as a guideline for "we can't lock up that many people by throwing them into a giant fenced area and posting guards in towers with guns".
Especially since, if you took every single person in Wisconsin and did that today, it's less than the number of Jews alone killed by the Germans.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610944</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614980</id>
	<title>Re:Sometimes your census data is used for good...</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269545640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>As an urban planner, I can say in all honesty that eliminating things like race from the census would be devastating to research processes.</i></p><p>I can see where there are things in the cesus that would be devastating to research, but what could you possibly be researching that race would matter at all? Sex, age, income, are all valuable to research and urban planning, but race? Contrary to what Blago and Jesse Jackson say, race is not equal to wealth or poverty. Racism is a tool of the rich to keep the poor at each others' throats and their attention away from the people who cause their poverty in the first place (their employers).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As an urban planner , I can say in all honesty that eliminating things like race from the census would be devastating to research processes.I can see where there are things in the cesus that would be devastating to research , but what could you possibly be researching that race would matter at all ?
Sex , age , income , are all valuable to research and urban planning , but race ?
Contrary to what Blago and Jesse Jackson say , race is not equal to wealth or poverty .
Racism is a tool of the rich to keep the poor at each others ' throats and their attention away from the people who cause their poverty in the first place ( their employers ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an urban planner, I can say in all honesty that eliminating things like race from the census would be devastating to research processes.I can see where there are things in the cesus that would be devastating to research, but what could you possibly be researching that race would matter at all?
Sex, age, income, are all valuable to research and urban planning, but race?
Contrary to what Blago and Jesse Jackson say, race is not equal to wealth or poverty.
Racism is a tool of the rich to keep the poor at each others' throats and their attention away from the people who cause their poverty in the first place (their employers).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610934</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612526</id>
	<title>Re:Only Box the Census Taker Will Check For Me is.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269538140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is, due to gun law restrictions, the Branch Davidians didn't have the same firepower as the ATF people raiding the compound and shooting people.</p><p>If the Davidians had a tank like the ATF guys, I can assure you that the casualty rate on the ATF side would have been greater.</p><p>Imagine if Waco happened under Bush's administration, what the leftwingers would have said about him being a Fascist. Instead it was okay because it was Clinton, go figure.</p><p>After all, it is better to kill a bunch of kids trying to get at an accused child molester and gun toting religious nut, than it is to try to do it a different way.</p><p>Not to mention Randy Weaver case, where an unarmed woman holding a baby was shot in the head by Federal Agents.</p><p><i>"They have caved in on the right of the average American to keep any kind of real defense. "</i></p><p>Exactly!</p><p>I still wonder on what authority the Feds started the siege on. And why the local Sheriff didn't tell them to get the f' out of the county.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is , due to gun law restrictions , the Branch Davidians did n't have the same firepower as the ATF people raiding the compound and shooting people.If the Davidians had a tank like the ATF guys , I can assure you that the casualty rate on the ATF side would have been greater.Imagine if Waco happened under Bush 's administration , what the leftwingers would have said about him being a Fascist .
Instead it was okay because it was Clinton , go figure.After all , it is better to kill a bunch of kids trying to get at an accused child molester and gun toting religious nut , than it is to try to do it a different way.Not to mention Randy Weaver case , where an unarmed woman holding a baby was shot in the head by Federal Agents .
" They have caved in on the right of the average American to keep any kind of real defense .
" Exactly ! I still wonder on what authority the Feds started the siege on .
And why the local Sheriff did n't tell them to get the f ' out of the county .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is, due to gun law restrictions, the Branch Davidians didn't have the same firepower as the ATF people raiding the compound and shooting people.If the Davidians had a tank like the ATF guys, I can assure you that the casualty rate on the ATF side would have been greater.Imagine if Waco happened under Bush's administration, what the leftwingers would have said about him being a Fascist.
Instead it was okay because it was Clinton, go figure.After all, it is better to kill a bunch of kids trying to get at an accused child molester and gun toting religious nut, than it is to try to do it a different way.Not to mention Randy Weaver case, where an unarmed woman holding a baby was shot in the head by Federal Agents.
"They have caved in on the right of the average American to keep any kind of real defense.
"Exactly!I still wonder on what authority the Feds started the siege on.
And why the local Sheriff didn't tell them to get the f' out of the county.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611150</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31618450</id>
	<title>Re:Just One Race -- American</title>
	<author>Myopic</author>
	<datestamp>1269515040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The constitution<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... forbids racial classification of the American People.</i></p><p>[citation needed]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The constitution ... forbids racial classification of the American People .
[ citation needed ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The constitution ... forbids racial classification of the American People.
[citation needed]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613144</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31612900</id>
	<title>And...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269539220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*** "All the census really needs to know is how many people live at each address. Citizens should refuse to answer any census question except for the number of residents."" ***</p><p>The govt should refuse them any and all govt sponsored services (education, medicaid, medicare, food stamps, etc, etc) unless they provide more info.</p><p>IMO, they should use the Census to get rid of all the fucking illegals in this country that are leeching.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* * * " All the census really needs to know is how many people live at each address .
Citizens should refuse to answer any census question except for the number of residents .
" " * * * The govt should refuse them any and all govt sponsored services ( education , medicaid , medicare , food stamps , etc , etc ) unless they provide more info.IMO , they should use the Census to get rid of all the fucking illegals in this country that are leeching .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*** "All the census really needs to know is how many people live at each address.
Citizens should refuse to answer any census question except for the number of residents.
"" ***The govt should refuse them any and all govt sponsored services (education, medicaid, medicare, food stamps, etc, etc) unless they provide more info.IMO, they should use the Census to get rid of all the fucking illegals in this country that are leeching.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610576</id>
	<title>To all the Java weenies in the crowd</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To all the Java weenies in the crowd, you have tiny penises.  Even CmdrTaco's micropenis is bigger than your penis.  Stop using that shitty, baby language and writing those huge, bloaty programs.  Learn a real programming language like C#.</p><p>Oh yeah, and I fucked your moms in the ass last night.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To all the Java weenies in the crowd , you have tiny penises .
Even CmdrTaco 's micropenis is bigger than your penis .
Stop using that shitty , baby language and writing those huge , bloaty programs .
Learn a real programming language like C # .Oh yeah , and I fucked your moms in the ass last night .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To all the Java weenies in the crowd, you have tiny penises.
Even CmdrTaco's micropenis is bigger than your penis.
Stop using that shitty, baby language and writing those huge, bloaty programs.
Learn a real programming language like C#.Oh yeah, and I fucked your moms in the ass last night.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31613826</id>
	<title>Re:Ridiculous</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1269542100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous.</p></div><p> - ridiculous is that you got modded up like that for this drivel.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt. know as much about the people they represent as possible.</p></div><p>  -  that's the worst reasoning ever.  The local and the national governments don't need to know about you, they don't care, they do not care, there is no care in them for you.  They take the money from the corporate interests, from their friends and they do what they wish and that's it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>If they don't know facts about, say, the social and financial background of their constituents, how can they govern effectively?</p></div><p> - "effectively govern", is that like "military intelligence"?  They effectively govern the money of corporations into their bank accounts, everything else is effectively secondary and not important, because see my point #1: they don't care about you and your problems.  They care about their own problems and making money for themselves.</p><p>The reason for them to collect this information so that you continue learning the same thing, the same behavior, you continue propagating the same behavior from generation to generation: you are under their control and you better be in line.  If you get out of line, well.  There is always a Simpsons or Springer or Oprah or some form of Idol rerun for that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous .
- ridiculous is that you got modded up like that for this drivel.It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt .
know as much about the people they represent as possible .
- that 's the worst reasoning ever .
The local and the national governments do n't need to know about you , they do n't care , they do not care , there is no care in them for you .
They take the money from the corporate interests , from their friends and they do what they wish and that 's it.If they do n't know facts about , say , the social and financial background of their constituents , how can they govern effectively ?
- " effectively govern " , is that like " military intelligence " ?
They effectively govern the money of corporations into their bank accounts , everything else is effectively secondary and not important , because see my point # 1 : they do n't care about you and your problems .
They care about their own problems and making money for themselves.The reason for them to collect this information so that you continue learning the same thing , the same behavior , you continue propagating the same behavior from generation to generation : you are under their control and you better be in line .
If you get out of line , well .
There is always a Simpsons or Springer or Oprah or some form of Idol rerun for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous.
- ridiculous is that you got modded up like that for this drivel.It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt.
know as much about the people they represent as possible.
-  that's the worst reasoning ever.
The local and the national governments don't need to know about you, they don't care, they do not care, there is no care in them for you.
They take the money from the corporate interests, from their friends and they do what they wish and that's it.If they don't know facts about, say, the social and financial background of their constituents, how can they govern effectively?
- "effectively govern", is that like "military intelligence"?
They effectively govern the money of corporations into their bank accounts, everything else is effectively secondary and not important, because see my point #1: they don't care about you and your problems.
They care about their own problems and making money for themselves.The reason for them to collect this information so that you continue learning the same thing, the same behavior, you continue propagating the same behavior from generation to generation: you are under their control and you better be in line.
If you get out of line, well.
There is always a Simpsons or Springer or Oprah or some form of Idol rerun for that.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610748</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610748</id>
	<title>Ridiculous</title>
	<author>DIplomatic</author>
	<datestamp>1269532620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous. It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt. know as much about the people they represent as possible. If they don't know facts about, say, the social and financial background of their constituents, how can they govern effectively?<p>To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous .
It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt .
know as much about the people they represent as possible .
If they do n't know facts about , say , the social and financial background of their constituents , how can they govern effectively ? To give a hypothetical example , it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Refusing to fill out the Census is ridiculous.
It is in your own best interest to let the local and national govt.
know as much about the people they represent as possible.
If they don't know facts about, say, the social and financial background of their constituents, how can they govern effectively?To give a hypothetical example, it would be like if you were a neilsen family but refused to fill out info about the tv shows that you liked and then complained when they got canceled.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31614660</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>will3477</author>
	<datestamp>1269544740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slight correction: date of birth is one of the census questions.

I have received my census, but see item 7 on the following page for confirmation: <a href="http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php" title="census.gov" rel="nofollow">http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php</a> [census.gov]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slight correction : date of birth is one of the census questions .
I have received my census , but see item 7 on the following page for confirmation : http : //2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php [ census.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slight correction: date of birth is one of the census questions.
I have received my census, but see item 7 on the following page for confirmation: http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php [census.gov]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31610632</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611780</id>
	<title>They already know...</title>
	<author>sargeUSMC</author>
	<datestamp>1269535920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey kids - they already know everything they want about you.  Unless you don't have a birth certificate, SSN, and/or drivers license.  IMHO, if they want to do another roundup, the census data is only one of about a thousand data points on you.</p><p>They only way you can avoid this is if you are living on the lam, and then guess what, they are already looking for you...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey kids - they already know everything they want about you .
Unless you do n't have a birth certificate , SSN , and/or drivers license .
IMHO , if they want to do another roundup , the census data is only one of about a thousand data points on you.They only way you can avoid this is if you are living on the lam , and then guess what , they are already looking for you.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey kids - they already know everything they want about you.
Unless you don't have a birth certificate, SSN, and/or drivers license.
IMHO, if they want to do another roundup, the census data is only one of about a thousand data points on you.They only way you can avoid this is if you are living on the lam, and then guess what, they are already looking for you...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1326257.31611700</id>
	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>danlip</author>
	<datestamp>1269535680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>All other questions (SSN, birth date, birth place) are not part of the census so if anyone asks they are not acting on behalf of the census office.</p></div><p>The census papers I am looking at ask for birthdate (and age since apparently they aren't capable of calculating that from birthdate).  They also ask hispanic/non-hispanic (separate from race) and for hispanics they ask for country of origin.  It's also not quite clear what you would put down for race if you were middle-eastern - does that count as Asian?  They ask for fine-grained racial info if you are Asian, more or less equivalent to asking for your country of origin - I wonder what they might use that info for?</p><p>(dividing the world into a few big racial groups is crap, there are thousands of ethnic groups an no clear boundaries between the larger groups)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>All other questions ( SSN , birth date , birth place ) are not part of the census so if anyone asks they are not acting on behalf of the census office.The census papers I am looking at ask for birthdate ( and age since apparently they are n't capable of calculating that from birthdate ) .
They also ask hispanic/non-hispanic ( separate from race ) and for hispanics they ask for country of origin .
It 's also not quite clear what you would put down for race if you were middle-eastern - does that count as Asian ?
They ask for fine-grained racial info if you are Asian , more or less equivalent to asking for your country of origin - I wonder what they might use that info for ?
( dividing the world into a few big racial groups is crap , there are thousands of ethnic groups an no clear boundaries between the larger groups )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All other questions (SSN, birth date, birth place) are not part of the census so if anyone asks they are not acting on behalf of the census office.The census papers I am looking at ask for birthdate (and age since apparently they aren't capable of calculating that from birthdate).
They also ask hispanic/non-hispanic (separate from race) and for hispanics they ask for country of origin.
It's also not quite clear what you would put down for race if you were middle-eastern - does that count as Asian?
They ask for fine-grained racial info if you are Asian, more or less equivalent to asking for your country of origin - I wonder what they might use that info for?
(dividing the world into a few big racial groups is crap, there are thousands of ethnic groups an no clear boundaries between the larger groups)
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	<title>Re:There are no other questions</title>
	<author>SirGarlon</author>
	<datestamp>1269533760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>There are two forms of the census, the short form and the long form.  Sounds like you got the short form.  A random sample of addresses receive the long form instead of the short form.  It asks a lot more detailed questions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are two forms of the census , the short form and the long form .
Sounds like you got the short form .
A random sample of addresses receive the long form instead of the short form .
It asks a lot more detailed questions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are two forms of the census, the short form and the long form.
Sounds like you got the short form.
A random sample of addresses receive the long form instead of the short form.
It asks a lot more detailed questions.</sentencetext>
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