<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_25_1240200</id>
	<title>Tracking Pedophiles By Their Typing Habits</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1269523080000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Pedophiles using the internet to target youngsters could be tracked down &mdash; by <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1260548/Paedophiles-tracked-way-use-keyboard-online.html">the way they use a keyboard</a>. Researchers are investigating ways to use technology which can determine a typist's age, sex and culture within ten keystrokes by monitoring their speed and rhythm."</i>  Since <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrenology">Phrenology</a>  hasn't exactly panned out, they gotta try something new.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Pedophiles using the internet to target youngsters could be tracked down    by the way they use a keyboard .
Researchers are investigating ways to use technology which can determine a typist 's age , sex and culture within ten keystrokes by monitoring their speed and rhythm .
" Since Phrenology has n't exactly panned out , they got ta try something new .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Pedophiles using the internet to target youngsters could be tracked down — by the way they use a keyboard.
Researchers are investigating ways to use technology which can determine a typist's age, sex and culture within ten keystrokes by monitoring their speed and rhythm.
"  Since Phrenology  hasn't exactly panned out, they gotta try something new.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610696</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>thesandtiger</author>
	<datestamp>1269532500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't have anything to do with who you want to fuck, but it sure seems to be getting in the way of you reading and understanding the article.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>This is not to determine if someone types like a pedophile, it's to determine where they might be and other demographic information about people who are targeting children online, based on their typing.</p><p>Sounds like absolute bullshit to me - I've seen numerous other things that attempt to determine something about an individual based on input like typing, sentence construction and other info and they're usually off enough that they'd be worthless as any kind of forensic tool. Some of these combed through thousands of posts comprising millions of words for an individual and still only gave a 60\% read on what gender the person was and a 70\% read on their likely level of education based on word choice. The problem is that when you are taking part in a global community like the Internet, people pick up all kinds of habits.</p><p>For example, I know quite a few USians who use "Cheers!" "mate" and "no worries" because they happen to frequent forums that have people from England, Australia and other countries where such turns of phrase are much more common than in the US. I also know many people of middle-age or later who use phrases that make them sound like teenagers. And there are a staggering number of highly educated people I speak with daily who write email as if they were 12-year-old girls named Becky and they RILLY RILLY RILLY wanna go see the Jonas Bros.</p><p>I could see being able to get more info with LOTS of information - surely it would be possible to determine if someone was actually British or just a bit affected online if you could look at their spelling and other word use (or, at least, to see if they seem to be actual vs. faux British) - but this claim of in as few as 10 keystrokes and basing it on silly things like the force of the keystrokes etc. is just completely absurd.</p><p>Though it does lead to some fun scenarios...</p><p>"Hey, Joe - we got some sicko here trying to pick up 10-year-olds in Hello Kitty Online! Based on the typometric reading... It's either a left-handed, myopic 32 year-old male living in Cedar Rapids, Iowa or a mildly retarded 58 year-old intersex retired WalMart greeter who moved to Tuvalu sometime last spring."</p><p>"Tuvalu? Awesome - I've always wanted to go to Oceania! I'll submit the travel vouchers while you call the Iowa office to let them know who's door to kick in!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't have anything to do with who you want to fuck , but it sure seems to be getting in the way of you reading and understanding the article .
: ) This is not to determine if someone types like a pedophile , it 's to determine where they might be and other demographic information about people who are targeting children online , based on their typing.Sounds like absolute bullshit to me - I 've seen numerous other things that attempt to determine something about an individual based on input like typing , sentence construction and other info and they 're usually off enough that they 'd be worthless as any kind of forensic tool .
Some of these combed through thousands of posts comprising millions of words for an individual and still only gave a 60 \ % read on what gender the person was and a 70 \ % read on their likely level of education based on word choice .
The problem is that when you are taking part in a global community like the Internet , people pick up all kinds of habits.For example , I know quite a few USians who use " Cheers !
" " mate " and " no worries " because they happen to frequent forums that have people from England , Australia and other countries where such turns of phrase are much more common than in the US .
I also know many people of middle-age or later who use phrases that make them sound like teenagers .
And there are a staggering number of highly educated people I speak with daily who write email as if they were 12-year-old girls named Becky and they RILLY RILLY RILLY wan na go see the Jonas Bros.I could see being able to get more info with LOTS of information - surely it would be possible to determine if someone was actually British or just a bit affected online if you could look at their spelling and other word use ( or , at least , to see if they seem to be actual vs. faux British ) - but this claim of in as few as 10 keystrokes and basing it on silly things like the force of the keystrokes etc .
is just completely absurd.Though it does lead to some fun scenarios... " Hey , Joe - we got some sicko here trying to pick up 10-year-olds in Hello Kitty Online !
Based on the typometric reading... It 's either a left-handed , myopic 32 year-old male living in Cedar Rapids , Iowa or a mildly retarded 58 year-old intersex retired WalMart greeter who moved to Tuvalu sometime last spring. " " Tuvalu ?
Awesome - I 've always wanted to go to Oceania !
I 'll submit the travel vouchers while you call the Iowa office to let them know who 's door to kick in !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't have anything to do with who you want to fuck, but it sure seems to be getting in the way of you reading and understanding the article.
:)This is not to determine if someone types like a pedophile, it's to determine where they might be and other demographic information about people who are targeting children online, based on their typing.Sounds like absolute bullshit to me - I've seen numerous other things that attempt to determine something about an individual based on input like typing, sentence construction and other info and they're usually off enough that they'd be worthless as any kind of forensic tool.
Some of these combed through thousands of posts comprising millions of words for an individual and still only gave a 60\% read on what gender the person was and a 70\% read on their likely level of education based on word choice.
The problem is that when you are taking part in a global community like the Internet, people pick up all kinds of habits.For example, I know quite a few USians who use "Cheers!
" "mate" and "no worries" because they happen to frequent forums that have people from England, Australia and other countries where such turns of phrase are much more common than in the US.
I also know many people of middle-age or later who use phrases that make them sound like teenagers.
And there are a staggering number of highly educated people I speak with daily who write email as if they were 12-year-old girls named Becky and they RILLY RILLY RILLY wanna go see the Jonas Bros.I could see being able to get more info with LOTS of information - surely it would be possible to determine if someone was actually British or just a bit affected online if you could look at their spelling and other word use (or, at least, to see if they seem to be actual vs. faux British) - but this claim of in as few as 10 keystrokes and basing it on silly things like the force of the keystrokes etc.
is just completely absurd.Though it does lead to some fun scenarios..."Hey, Joe - we got some sicko here trying to pick up 10-year-olds in Hello Kitty Online!
Based on the typometric reading... It's either a left-handed, myopic 32 year-old male living in Cedar Rapids, Iowa or a mildly retarded 58 year-old intersex retired WalMart greeter who moved to Tuvalu sometime last spring.""Tuvalu?
Awesome - I've always wanted to go to Oceania!
I'll submit the travel vouchers while you call the Iowa office to let them know who's door to kick in!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610250</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612788</id>
	<title>"You type like a pedophile."</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1269538920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a scary thought.</p><p>Also, just think of what the Chinese government could do with this - immediately locating any dissident who searches google.hk just by identifying their regional "telegraphic fist". By monitoring their citizen's keyboards, they can save themselves the bother of having to monitor every internet connection in the count----</p><p>Oh wait, they do that anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a scary thought.Also , just think of what the Chinese government could do with this - immediately locating any dissident who searches google.hk just by identifying their regional " telegraphic fist " .
By monitoring their citizen 's keyboards , they can save themselves the bother of having to monitor every internet connection in the count----Oh wait , they do that anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a scary thought.Also, just think of what the Chinese government could do with this - immediately locating any dissident who searches google.hk just by identifying their regional "telegraphic fist".
By monitoring their citizen's keyboards, they can save themselves the bother of having to monitor every internet connection in the count----Oh wait, they do that anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609652</id>
	<title>That guy has a scary plan....</title>
	<author>santax</author>
	<datestamp>1269527340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i quote:
'If children are talking to each other on Windows Live or MSN messenger, Microsoft might be able to see if there's an adult on there.'

See where we going here?</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>i quote : 'If children are talking to each other on Windows Live or MSN messenger , Microsoft might be able to see if there 's an adult on there .
' See where we going here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i quote:
'If children are talking to each other on Windows Live or MSN messenger, Microsoft might be able to see if there's an adult on there.
'

See where we going here?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611698</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269535680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Internet: Where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Internet : Where men are men , women are men , and children are FBI agents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Internet: Where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609524</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611140</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>apoc.famine</author>
	<datestamp>1269534060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I type vastly different on my home system than I do at work (on a mac) or on my netbook. Hell, I type differently now at work than I usually do, as I've got a stack of books under my left elbow that I'm supposed to be reading. <br> <br>The speeds are different, the mistakes are different, the key-presses a different strength, the mousing and clicking are different, etc. I really don't see that this is more than an attempt to get funding by waving the pedo flag.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I type vastly different on my home system than I do at work ( on a mac ) or on my netbook .
Hell , I type differently now at work than I usually do , as I 've got a stack of books under my left elbow that I 'm supposed to be reading .
The speeds are different , the mistakes are different , the key-presses a different strength , the mousing and clicking are different , etc .
I really do n't see that this is more than an attempt to get funding by waving the pedo flag .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I type vastly different on my home system than I do at work (on a mac) or on my netbook.
Hell, I type differently now at work than I usually do, as I've got a stack of books under my left elbow that I'm supposed to be reading.
The speeds are different, the mistakes are different, the key-presses a different strength, the mousing and clicking are different, etc.
I really don't see that this is more than an attempt to get funding by waving the pedo flag.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609840</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609606</id>
	<title>This seems like snake oil...</title>
	<author>Scrab</author>
	<datestamp>1269527160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even if I were to believe such a thing were possible, the fact that the Daily Mail is the source makes me roll my eyes and dismiss it...

If there's a reputable source, that might be worth reading, but even then it's still a stretch to believe that all people from one culture type in the same way...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if I were to believe such a thing were possible , the fact that the Daily Mail is the source makes me roll my eyes and dismiss it.. . If there 's a reputable source , that might be worth reading , but even then it 's still a stretch to believe that all people from one culture type in the same way.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if I were to believe such a thing were possible, the fact that the Daily Mail is the source makes me roll my eyes and dismiss it...

If there's a reputable source, that might be worth reading, but even then it's still a stretch to believe that all people from one culture type in the same way...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31623520</id>
	<title>Re:good luck</title>
	<author>cffrost</author>
	<datestamp>1269600780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's not as sexy as figuring out person's age and gender though, is it?</p></div><p>Well that depends on her age and gender, innit?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not as sexy as figuring out person 's age and gender though , is it ? Well that depends on her age and gender , innit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not as sexy as figuring out person's age and gender though, is it?Well that depends on her age and gender, innit?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611992</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1269536520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, when you consider how many people on the internet, and here mostly newsgroups and similar discussion media, have the incredible skill to determine by <i>what</i> you type that YOU ARE SO GAY, maybe the <i>how</i> you type it determines your prefered age group.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , when you consider how many people on the internet , and here mostly newsgroups and similar discussion media , have the incredible skill to determine by what you type that YOU ARE SO GAY , maybe the how you type it determines your prefered age group .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, when you consider how many people on the internet, and here mostly newsgroups and similar discussion media, have the incredible skill to determine by what you type that YOU ARE SO GAY, maybe the how you type it determines your prefered age group.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610250</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610374</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>crazycheetah</author>
	<datestamp>1269531060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google wave. The copy and paste could be seen as those random copy and paste, but if that is all that you do, then it gets suspicious that you may be trying to hide it, unless it's all copy and pasted in obvious fashion from the internet or whatever. Just an idea...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google wave .
The copy and paste could be seen as those random copy and paste , but if that is all that you do , then it gets suspicious that you may be trying to hide it , unless it 's all copy and pasted in obvious fashion from the internet or whatever .
Just an idea.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google wave.
The copy and paste could be seen as those random copy and paste, but if that is all that you do, then it gets suspicious that you may be trying to hide it, unless it's all copy and pasted in obvious fashion from the internet or whatever.
Just an idea...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610638</id>
	<title>Re:In the real world, we have Republicans.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Excuse me?!?  I'm a libertarian, I often vote Republican, and I sympathize with the "Tea Party" movement.  Somehow that makes me an ignorant fascist who doesn't care about true justice?  I think you are painting with a very, very broad brush.  Conservatives come in a wide range of views, just as liberals do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Excuse me ? ! ?
I 'm a libertarian , I often vote Republican , and I sympathize with the " Tea Party " movement .
Somehow that makes me an ignorant fascist who does n't care about true justice ?
I think you are painting with a very , very broad brush .
Conservatives come in a wide range of views , just as liberals do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excuse me?!?
I'm a libertarian, I often vote Republican, and I sympathize with the "Tea Party" movement.
Somehow that makes me an ignorant fascist who doesn't care about true justice?
I think you are painting with a very, very broad brush.
Conservatives come in a wide range of views, just as liberals do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611430</id>
	<title>Re:ffs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pedophile spotted</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pedophile spotted</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pedophile spotted</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609918</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610328</id>
	<title>Circumvention</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This could be easily circumvented by a very simple program that uses the then-not-so-secret[1] typing profiles to first buffer my input and then emulate the keystrokes in the desired fashion while passing it to any chat client or whatever.</p><p>Epic fail.</p><p>[1] As an alternative I can trick some relatives or friends into handing out their personal typing profile to me.</p><p>(Sorry for my bad english)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This could be easily circumvented by a very simple program that uses the then-not-so-secret [ 1 ] typing profiles to first buffer my input and then emulate the keystrokes in the desired fashion while passing it to any chat client or whatever.Epic fail .
[ 1 ] As an alternative I can trick some relatives or friends into handing out their personal typing profile to me .
( Sorry for my bad english )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This could be easily circumvented by a very simple program that uses the then-not-so-secret[1] typing profiles to first buffer my input and then emulate the keystrokes in the desired fashion while passing it to any chat client or whatever.Epic fail.
[1] As an alternative I can trick some relatives or friends into handing out their personal typing profile to me.
(Sorry for my bad english)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609762</id>
	<title>so ummmm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269527820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So the root of this plan is to install a keystroke logger on all computers. They should just use the webcam. ARF</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So the root of this plan is to install a keystroke logger on all computers .
They should just use the webcam .
ARF</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the root of this plan is to install a keystroke logger on all computers.
They should just use the webcam.
ARF</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612050</id>
	<title>Re:I could sort off see this working.</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269536700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>seen authentication tools that combine the password you've entered with the 'way' in which you enter it, doing essentially just that.</i></p><p>I hope they never institute this where I work, because how I enter my password is dependant on how much I drank the night before, and how much coffee and sleep I've gotten.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>seen authentication tools that combine the password you 've entered with the 'way ' in which you enter it , doing essentially just that.I hope they never institute this where I work , because how I enter my password is dependant on how much I drank the night before , and how much coffee and sleep I 've gotten .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>seen authentication tools that combine the password you've entered with the 'way' in which you enter it, doing essentially just that.I hope they never institute this where I work, because how I enter my password is dependant on how much I drank the night before, and how much coffee and sleep I've gotten.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609632</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609580</id>
	<title>I know why!</title>
	<author>B5\_geek</author>
	<datestamp>1269527040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that because they are all typing one-handed?  =)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that because they are all typing one-handed ?
= )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that because they are all typing one-handed?
=)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31640558</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269712380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>These things need to be taken in context. I've had people who've read essays and papers I've written be stunned when they met me in person - they envisioned a much older person, usually male, simply because of my tone. I've had people who I've worked with on collaborative projects at remote sites also assume - if I only go by my initials, which I often do in informal emails - that I was a guy, and much older - in my late 50's at least. <b>Given that I'm a female</b> under 40, this is usually pretty surprising when people had different expectations. A coworker of mine - straight, white, male and christian - recently wrote a piece about issues relating to gay marriage &amp; the privilege of majority classes in the US and was accused by critics who said that the piece was self-serving, because the author, obviously a gay woman of color, was only seeing things from "her" point of view.</p></div><p>Apparently the gender guesser doesn't check for statements of gender, since the results for that paragraph return:</p><p>Genre: Informal<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Female = 110<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Male   = 206<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Difference = 96; 65.18\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Verdict: MALE</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>These things need to be taken in context .
I 've had people who 've read essays and papers I 've written be stunned when they met me in person - they envisioned a much older person , usually male , simply because of my tone .
I 've had people who I 've worked with on collaborative projects at remote sites also assume - if I only go by my initials , which I often do in informal emails - that I was a guy , and much older - in my late 50 's at least .
Given that I 'm a female under 40 , this is usually pretty surprising when people had different expectations .
A coworker of mine - straight , white , male and christian - recently wrote a piece about issues relating to gay marriage &amp; the privilege of majority classes in the US and was accused by critics who said that the piece was self-serving , because the author , obviously a gay woman of color , was only seeing things from " her " point of view.Apparently the gender guesser does n't check for statements of gender , since the results for that paragraph return : Genre : Informal     Female = 110     Male = 206     Difference = 96 ; 65.18 \ %     Verdict : MALE</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These things need to be taken in context.
I've had people who've read essays and papers I've written be stunned when they met me in person - they envisioned a much older person, usually male, simply because of my tone.
I've had people who I've worked with on collaborative projects at remote sites also assume - if I only go by my initials, which I often do in informal emails - that I was a guy, and much older - in my late 50's at least.
Given that I'm a female under 40, this is usually pretty surprising when people had different expectations.
A coworker of mine - straight, white, male and christian - recently wrote a piece about issues relating to gay marriage &amp; the privilege of majority classes in the US and was accused by critics who said that the piece was self-serving, because the author, obviously a gay woman of color, was only seeing things from "her" point of view.Apparently the gender guesser doesn't check for statements of gender, since the results for that paragraph return:Genre: Informal
    Female = 110
    Male   = 206
    Difference = 96; 65.18\%
    Verdict: MALE
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611274</id>
	<title>Re:In the real world, we have Republicans.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah yes.  It's bad, so it must be somehow associated with the other guy (in your case, that would be the Republicans).</p><p>I have news for you; Democrats are just as eager to make bad decisions based upon the most trivial of facts without thinking things through.</p><p>e.g. Barack "Not as bad as Bush" Obama was supposed to get us out of Iraq, put an end to lobbying, kill off corruption in government, destroy the RIAA and MPAA, give us a trillion gigabytes per second internet access in every square inch of the country, drop the unemployment rate to zero, lower taxes, have the government provide for all our needs, cure cancer, and have the whole world standing around the campfire holding hands singing "Kumbaya."  But those of us who thought things through and realized he was just another politician voted against him.</p><p>Another example.  The "Health Care Reform" bill that just passed.  Those who spend five minutes analyzing and thinking about it hate it because it does more to break our health care system than to fix it.  If you deliberately set out to try to raise health care costs, this bill would be pretty close to the result.  But because it has the words "Health Care Reform" stamped on it, most of the Democrats in Congress voted for it.  It could have been about requiring police officers to use babies as target practice and the Democrats would have voted for it as long as it had a catchy title.</p><p>Another example.  Obama's solution to the failing economy was to throw money at the problem.  The result?  Minimal, if any, success.  Meanwhile, that's trillions of dollars that the taxpayers are eventually going to have to pay back.  You think the economy's bad now?  Wait until we have to pay the piper.  Rarely do Democrats ever think, "How are we going to pay for this?"  By the way, I'll tell you the answer to that question:  It's going to come out of your pockets.  Just because it won't happen today doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow.</p><p>Those examples are just off the top of my head.  I could go on for a hundred thousand words, but you get the picture.  Democrats look at things superficially, but rarely think them through.</p><p>Sorry to hijack this thread, but in my defense, you started it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes .
It 's bad , so it must be somehow associated with the other guy ( in your case , that would be the Republicans ) .I have news for you ; Democrats are just as eager to make bad decisions based upon the most trivial of facts without thinking things through.e.g .
Barack " Not as bad as Bush " Obama was supposed to get us out of Iraq , put an end to lobbying , kill off corruption in government , destroy the RIAA and MPAA , give us a trillion gigabytes per second internet access in every square inch of the country , drop the unemployment rate to zero , lower taxes , have the government provide for all our needs , cure cancer , and have the whole world standing around the campfire holding hands singing " Kumbaya .
" But those of us who thought things through and realized he was just another politician voted against him.Another example .
The " Health Care Reform " bill that just passed .
Those who spend five minutes analyzing and thinking about it hate it because it does more to break our health care system than to fix it .
If you deliberately set out to try to raise health care costs , this bill would be pretty close to the result .
But because it has the words " Health Care Reform " stamped on it , most of the Democrats in Congress voted for it .
It could have been about requiring police officers to use babies as target practice and the Democrats would have voted for it as long as it had a catchy title.Another example .
Obama 's solution to the failing economy was to throw money at the problem .
The result ?
Minimal , if any , success .
Meanwhile , that 's trillions of dollars that the taxpayers are eventually going to have to pay back .
You think the economy 's bad now ?
Wait until we have to pay the piper .
Rarely do Democrats ever think , " How are we going to pay for this ?
" By the way , I 'll tell you the answer to that question : It 's going to come out of your pockets .
Just because it wo n't happen today does n't mean it wo n't happen tomorrow.Those examples are just off the top of my head .
I could go on for a hundred thousand words , but you get the picture .
Democrats look at things superficially , but rarely think them through.Sorry to hijack this thread , but in my defense , you started it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes.
It's bad, so it must be somehow associated with the other guy (in your case, that would be the Republicans).I have news for you; Democrats are just as eager to make bad decisions based upon the most trivial of facts without thinking things through.e.g.
Barack "Not as bad as Bush" Obama was supposed to get us out of Iraq, put an end to lobbying, kill off corruption in government, destroy the RIAA and MPAA, give us a trillion gigabytes per second internet access in every square inch of the country, drop the unemployment rate to zero, lower taxes, have the government provide for all our needs, cure cancer, and have the whole world standing around the campfire holding hands singing "Kumbaya.
"  But those of us who thought things through and realized he was just another politician voted against him.Another example.
The "Health Care Reform" bill that just passed.
Those who spend five minutes analyzing and thinking about it hate it because it does more to break our health care system than to fix it.
If you deliberately set out to try to raise health care costs, this bill would be pretty close to the result.
But because it has the words "Health Care Reform" stamped on it, most of the Democrats in Congress voted for it.
It could have been about requiring police officers to use babies as target practice and the Democrats would have voted for it as long as it had a catchy title.Another example.
Obama's solution to the failing economy was to throw money at the problem.
The result?
Minimal, if any, success.
Meanwhile, that's trillions of dollars that the taxpayers are eventually going to have to pay back.
You think the economy's bad now?
Wait until we have to pay the piper.
Rarely do Democrats ever think, "How are we going to pay for this?
"  By the way, I'll tell you the answer to that question:  It's going to come out of your pockets.
Just because it won't happen today doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow.Those examples are just off the top of my head.
I could go on for a hundred thousand words, but you get the picture.
Democrats look at things superficially, but rarely think them through.Sorry to hijack this thread, but in my defense, you started it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31614584</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1269544560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For fun, I just pasted the text of <a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html" title="gnu.org" rel="nofollow">The Right To Read</a> [gnu.org] into this. According to this test, Stallman is informally a weak man, and formally a weak woman.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><blockquote><div><p>Total words: 1031</p><p>Genre: Informal<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Female = 1551<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Male   = 1708<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Difference = 157; 52.4\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Verdict: Weak MALE</p><p>Weak emphasis could indicate European.</p><p>Genre: Formal<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Female = 1244<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Male   = 926<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Difference = -318; 42.67\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Verdict: Weak FEMALE</p><p>Weak emphasis could indicate European.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For fun , I just pasted the text of The Right To Read [ gnu.org ] into this .
According to this test , Stallman is informally a weak man , and formally a weak woman .
: - ) Total words : 1031Genre : Informal     Female = 1551     Male = 1708     Difference = 157 ; 52.4 \ %     Verdict : Weak MALEWeak emphasis could indicate European.Genre : Formal     Female = 1244     Male = 926     Difference = -318 ; 42.67 \ %     Verdict : Weak FEMALEWeak emphasis could indicate European .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For fun, I just pasted the text of The Right To Read [gnu.org] into this.
According to this test, Stallman is informally a weak man, and formally a weak woman.
:-)Total words: 1031Genre: Informal
    Female = 1551
    Male   = 1708
    Difference = 157; 52.4\%
    Verdict: Weak MALEWeak emphasis could indicate European.Genre: Formal
    Female = 1244
    Male   = 926
    Difference = -318; 42.67\%
    Verdict: Weak FEMALEWeak emphasis could indicate European.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609772</id>
	<title>Another interview on this story</title>
	<author>Troy</author>
	<datestamp>1269527880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the Media (a fantastic program if you haven't heard of it yet) covered this last month. Interview and transcript are here: <a href="http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/02/26/03" title="onthemedia.org">http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/02/26/03</a> [onthemedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the Media ( a fantastic program if you have n't heard of it yet ) covered this last month .
Interview and transcript are here : http : //www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/02/26/03 [ onthemedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the Media (a fantastic program if you haven't heard of it yet) covered this last month.
Interview and transcript are here: http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/02/26/03 [onthemedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609682</id>
	<title>Phrenology</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1269527460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tracking Pedophiles by Phrenology sounds kind of creepy.  There's also a public health issue with lice and other parasites.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tracking Pedophiles by Phrenology sounds kind of creepy .
There 's also a public health issue with lice and other parasites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tracking Pedophiles by Phrenology sounds kind of creepy.
There's also a public health issue with lice and other parasites.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31613496</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269541140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>misakes</p></div><p>OH SHI&mdash;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>misakesOH SHI   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>misakesOH SHI—
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612266</id>
	<title>Telltale sign</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269537300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They only type with one hand?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They only type with one hand ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They only type with one hand?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31618222</id>
	<title>Re:I know why!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269514080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, they detect when the keys stick together.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , they detect when the keys stick together .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, they detect when the keys stick together.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611790</id>
	<title>Re:Dvorak</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269535920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jimmy: it's your mom. Unfortunatedly you have typed waaay over 10 keystrokes, so STOP FOOLING ON<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. AND COME UPSTAIRS TO WASH THE DISHES, YOU PERV!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jimmy : it 's your mom .
Unfortunatedly you have typed waaay over 10 keystrokes , so STOP FOOLING ON / .
AND COME UPSTAIRS TO WASH THE DISHES , YOU PERV ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jimmy: it's your mom.
Unfortunatedly you have typed waaay over 10 keystrokes, so STOP FOOLING ON /.
AND COME UPSTAIRS TO WASH THE DISHES, YOU PERV!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612094</id>
	<title>One handed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, are they looking for what looks like one-handed typing when search terms like "playground" are entered?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , are they looking for what looks like one-handed typing when search terms like " playground " are entered ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, are they looking for what looks like one-handed typing when search terms like "playground" are entered?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612742</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1269538800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, the usual "the average 12 year old would not use such words, so it's gotta be a pedo" train of thought.</p><p>Watch out, prodigies, being shunned and ignored on the schoolyard for being so horribly different is no longer your biggest problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , the usual " the average 12 year old would not use such words , so it 's got ta be a pedo " train of thought.Watch out , prodigies , being shunned and ignored on the schoolyard for being so horribly different is no longer your biggest problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, the usual "the average 12 year old would not use such words, so it's gotta be a pedo" train of thought.Watch out, prodigies, being shunned and ignored on the schoolyard for being so horribly different is no longer your biggest problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609874</id>
	<title>95 percent accuracy isn't a lot</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1269528540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For every 1000 people, 50 will be misidentified.  Unless there are a lot of paedophiles this will make it essentially useless.   Although really this is the Daily Hate tacking the story onto one of their favourite scares.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For every 1000 people , 50 will be misidentified .
Unless there are a lot of paedophiles this will make it essentially useless .
Although really this is the Daily Hate tacking the story onto one of their favourite scares .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For every 1000 people, 50 will be misidentified.
Unless there are a lot of paedophiles this will make it essentially useless.
Although really this is the Daily Hate tacking the story onto one of their favourite scares.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610480</id>
	<title>Re:Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>MartinSchou</author>
	<datestamp>1269531540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And it's a news paper that happens to have the second largest circulation in the UK, second only to The Sun.</p><p>I'm not sure how things work where you live, but in most western countries, high circulation news papers have quite a bit of political pull, even if what they're spewing is ridiculous hokum.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And it 's a news paper that happens to have the second largest circulation in the UK , second only to The Sun.I 'm not sure how things work where you live , but in most western countries , high circulation news papers have quite a bit of political pull , even if what they 're spewing is ridiculous hokum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it's a news paper that happens to have the second largest circulation in the UK, second only to The Sun.I'm not sure how things work where you live, but in most western countries, high circulation news papers have quite a bit of political pull, even if what they're spewing is ridiculous hokum.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31613580</id>
	<title>I give it 6 months</title>
	<author>TheCarp</author>
	<datestamp>1269541440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thats right.... 6 months from the day that they start using it on any major service, until it is utterly useless.</p><p>All it takes is for a handful of people with the right skills to care, and there are some paranoid sons of bitches out there who know how to hack hardware and code, and there will be solutions available quickly. I imagine it will start with drivers and or keyboards that buffer and randomize timings. (this may not work well for peadophiles since randomization can probably be detected quickly)</p><p>It shouldn't be long before software that will buffer your keystrokes and retime them to a profile, maybe even flag and give you a chance to edit statements based on a grammar profile too.</p><p>Not all of it will be easy, but, come on, some of this stuff will be easy, and once its done by someone who is a free software supporter, well, I can't imagine it being too long before it takes less than 20 minutes from the time that you learn about this sort of tracking being used until you have protection.</p><p>Most people don't know how to use mixmaster to send email. However, how long does it really take to figure out and start using it? Few people know how to use PGP or OTR, but, you could be using either of them in 20 minutes if you wanted to (maybe not fully understanding what you are doing, but using it...)</p><p>I bet this is a great project for justifying a budget though. Hell, once its utterly broken, I bet some lobbyist will catch a nice paycheck going around urging the congresscritters here in the US (and equivalents elsewhere) to go around urging them to ban this horrible new technology. Whether it happens or not, this useless dud is going to be raking in the cash for years!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats right.... 6 months from the day that they start using it on any major service , until it is utterly useless.All it takes is for a handful of people with the right skills to care , and there are some paranoid sons of bitches out there who know how to hack hardware and code , and there will be solutions available quickly .
I imagine it will start with drivers and or keyboards that buffer and randomize timings .
( this may not work well for peadophiles since randomization can probably be detected quickly ) It should n't be long before software that will buffer your keystrokes and retime them to a profile , maybe even flag and give you a chance to edit statements based on a grammar profile too.Not all of it will be easy , but , come on , some of this stuff will be easy , and once its done by someone who is a free software supporter , well , I ca n't imagine it being too long before it takes less than 20 minutes from the time that you learn about this sort of tracking being used until you have protection.Most people do n't know how to use mixmaster to send email .
However , how long does it really take to figure out and start using it ?
Few people know how to use PGP or OTR , but , you could be using either of them in 20 minutes if you wanted to ( maybe not fully understanding what you are doing , but using it... ) I bet this is a great project for justifying a budget though .
Hell , once its utterly broken , I bet some lobbyist will catch a nice paycheck going around urging the congresscritters here in the US ( and equivalents elsewhere ) to go around urging them to ban this horrible new technology .
Whether it happens or not , this useless dud is going to be raking in the cash for years !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats right.... 6 months from the day that they start using it on any major service, until it is utterly useless.All it takes is for a handful of people with the right skills to care, and there are some paranoid sons of bitches out there who know how to hack hardware and code, and there will be solutions available quickly.
I imagine it will start with drivers and or keyboards that buffer and randomize timings.
(this may not work well for peadophiles since randomization can probably be detected quickly)It shouldn't be long before software that will buffer your keystrokes and retime them to a profile, maybe even flag and give you a chance to edit statements based on a grammar profile too.Not all of it will be easy, but, come on, some of this stuff will be easy, and once its done by someone who is a free software supporter, well, I can't imagine it being too long before it takes less than 20 minutes from the time that you learn about this sort of tracking being used until you have protection.Most people don't know how to use mixmaster to send email.
However, how long does it really take to figure out and start using it?
Few people know how to use PGP or OTR, but, you could be using either of them in 20 minutes if you wanted to (maybe not fully understanding what you are doing, but using it...)I bet this is a great project for justifying a budget though.
Hell, once its utterly broken, I bet some lobbyist will catch a nice paycheck going around urging the congresscritters here in the US (and equivalents elsewhere) to go around urging them to ban this horrible new technology.
Whether it happens or not, this useless dud is going to be raking in the cash for years!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611426</id>
	<title>Re:In the real world, we have Republicans.</title>
	<author>RunsWithMatches</author>
	<datestamp>1269534780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously though.  Is the mod system irreparably broken?  Insightful?  Really?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously though .
Is the mod system irreparably broken ?
Insightful ? Really ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously though.
Is the mod system irreparably broken?
Insightful?  Really?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610288</id>
	<title>Hmm...</title>
	<author>scuzzpuck</author>
	<datestamp>1269530520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surely they just need to install sensors that are sensitive to the smell of hammers?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely they just need to install sensors that are sensitive to the smell of hammers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely they just need to install sensors that are sensitive to the smell of hammers?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31623934</id>
	<title>Re:Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>StarfishOne</author>
	<datestamp>1269605160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your comment reminds me of this, IMHO, very interesting cartoon:</p><p>Orwell vs Huxley:<br><a href="http://www.recombinantrecords.net/docs/2009-05-Amusing-Ourselves-to-Death.html" title="recombinantrecords.net">http://www.recombinantrecords.net/docs/2009-05-Amusing-Ourselves-to-Death.html</a> [recombinantrecords.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your comment reminds me of this , IMHO , very interesting cartoon : Orwell vs Huxley : http : //www.recombinantrecords.net/docs/2009-05-Amusing-Ourselves-to-Death.html [ recombinantrecords.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your comment reminds me of this, IMHO, very interesting cartoon:Orwell vs Huxley:http://www.recombinantrecords.net/docs/2009-05-Amusing-Ourselves-to-Death.html [recombinantrecords.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610180</id>
	<title>Great....just started to file a patent application</title>
	<author>Tanuki64</author>
	<datestamp>1269530040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Keyboard proxy. A device which is plugged between keyboard an computer and which accepts key strokes and sends them in a freely selectable pattern to the computer. The base package contains: 'young white woman', 'trustworthy, well situated man', and 'perfect lover'. Additional packages like 'honest politician' or 'horny milf' can be ordered separately.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Keyboard proxy .
A device which is plugged between keyboard an computer and which accepts key strokes and sends them in a freely selectable pattern to the computer .
The base package contains : 'young white woman ' , 'trustworthy , well situated man ' , and 'perfect lover' .
Additional packages like 'honest politician ' or 'horny milf ' can be ordered separately .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keyboard proxy.
A device which is plugged between keyboard an computer and which accepts key strokes and sends them in a freely selectable pattern to the computer.
The base package contains: 'young white woman', 'trustworthy, well situated man', and 'perfect lover'.
Additional packages like 'honest politician' or 'horny milf' can be ordered separately.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610536</id>
	<title>Re:Correlation, implication, causation etc.</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1269531900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think you're seeing this in the right light. This software will help keep Facebook from killing more of our 17 year old women.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think you 're seeing this in the right light .
This software will help keep Facebook from killing more of our 17 year old women .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think you're seeing this in the right light.
This software will help keep Facebook from killing more of our 17 year old women.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609790</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611230</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I am sure they already found a way to take into account people who might use speech to text software<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I am sure they already found a way to take into account people who might use speech to text software : D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I am sure they already found a way to take into account people who might use speech to text software :D</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609524</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609572</id>
	<title>Congrats!</title>
	<author>boneglorious</author>
	<datestamp>1269527040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now good luck getting this pedophiles to have those sensors hooked up and letting themselves be videoed and monitored. How about saving yourself the analysis and just looking on their screen for child porn??</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now good luck getting this pedophiles to have those sensors hooked up and letting themselves be videoed and monitored .
How about saving yourself the analysis and just looking on their screen for child porn ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now good luck getting this pedophiles to have those sensors hooked up and letting themselves be videoed and monitored.
How about saving yourself the analysis and just looking on their screen for child porn?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31622302</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269542280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With your handle, you're probably on the FBI watch list yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With your handle , you 're probably on the FBI watch list yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With your handle, you're probably on the FBI watch list yourself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610600</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609848</id>
	<title>In the real world, we have Republicans.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269528360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please keep in mind that, in reality, we have to deal with Republicans, "Teabaggers", and others of their ilk.</p><p>They don't realize the limitations of technology. They don't particularly care about fair justice, either.</p><p>So they have absolutely no qualms about referring to somebody they dislike as a "pedophile", and then backing it up with this sort of keystroke analysis as "proof".</p><p>If you don't believe me, just look at how they justified the Invasion of Iraq. They showed computer-generated images of "weapons labs" and pictures of heating ducts, all in front of the UN!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please keep in mind that , in reality , we have to deal with Republicans , " Teabaggers " , and others of their ilk.They do n't realize the limitations of technology .
They do n't particularly care about fair justice , either.So they have absolutely no qualms about referring to somebody they dislike as a " pedophile " , and then backing it up with this sort of keystroke analysis as " proof " .If you do n't believe me , just look at how they justified the Invasion of Iraq .
They showed computer-generated images of " weapons labs " and pictures of heating ducts , all in front of the UN !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please keep in mind that, in reality, we have to deal with Republicans, "Teabaggers", and others of their ilk.They don't realize the limitations of technology.
They don't particularly care about fair justice, either.So they have absolutely no qualms about referring to somebody they dislike as a "pedophile", and then backing it up with this sort of keystroke analysis as "proof".If you don't believe me, just look at how they justified the Invasion of Iraq.
They showed computer-generated images of "weapons labs" and pictures of heating ducts, all in front of the UN!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610810</id>
	<title>what are you doing hear?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what are you doing hear?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what are you doing hear ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what are you doing hear?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612828</id>
	<title>garbage</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269539040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another cmdrtaco special.  We are getting more trolls than actual articles lately.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another cmdrtaco special .
We are getting more trolls than actual articles lately .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another cmdrtaco special.
We are getting more trolls than actual articles lately.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31614326</id>
	<title>Re:Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1269543540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sensationalist bullshit sells papers.</p></div><p>So you mean we could also track the readers of those papers with that method?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sensationalist bullshit sells papers.So you mean we could also track the readers of those papers with that method ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sensationalist bullshit sells papers.So you mean we could also track the readers of those papers with that method?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609524</id>
	<title>oh no</title>
	<author>genican1</author>
	<datestamp>1269526800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>i hope they don't mistakenly target me in my rush to type fast and make this the first post!</htmltext>
<tokenext>i hope they do n't mistakenly target me in my rush to type fast and make this the first post !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i hope they don't mistakenly target me in my rush to type fast and make this the first post!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609718</id>
	<title>good luck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269527640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good luck figuring anything out at all from people who are proficient enough in typing, touch-typists with years of experience who is who, who is a man, who is a woman, how old they are.</p><p>FTFA: men are 'heavy-handed and women are 'lighter' and their typing 'flows more' - that is beat by touch-typing.</p><p>But the basic problem with this is that it is a Turing test.  Can a 'pedophile' impersonate someone that he/she is not?  I think they should be able to, they fool kids supposedly into believing that they are also kids, of-course it is not that difficult to fool a kid, but maybe it is because it is not that hard to pretend on the Internet if you are really putting in the time to do it.</p><p>I can only guess why the 'pedophile' line is used here again, is it about the money?  Is Roy Maxion trying to get a grant money from the government for this 'research'?  I think so.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>'If children are talking to each other on Windows Live or MSN messenger, Microsoft might be able to see if there's an adult on there.'</p></div><p>  -  MSN, the world police.  What are they going to do if there is a suspicion, block access and send cops?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The department, which was formed last summer, believes the new technology could be used to prevent fraud at cash machines.</p></div><p> - ATMs?  So from pushing 4-6 digit pin and a few menu options they are going to figure out whether it is a woman/man, what's the age etc?</p><p>I can only imagine one possibility: record information collected from the actual account holder pushing the buttons and compare the speed of typing and delays between touches and releases to try and see if it's the same person.  It's not as sexy as figuring out person's age and gender though, is it?</p><p>Also how are they going to figure out how pedophiles type?  Are they going to find actual pedophiles and make them sit in front of a computer and type?  Did they somehow figure out that pedophiles all have the same typing abilities/habits?  Do pedophiles all have the same profession and are they really that easy to figure out from the rest of the 'normal' people?  Anyway, I think this 'research' is a load of bull crap and it's all about grant money.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good luck figuring anything out at all from people who are proficient enough in typing , touch-typists with years of experience who is who , who is a man , who is a woman , how old they are.FTFA : men are 'heavy-handed and women are 'lighter ' and their typing 'flows more ' - that is beat by touch-typing.But the basic problem with this is that it is a Turing test .
Can a 'pedophile ' impersonate someone that he/she is not ?
I think they should be able to , they fool kids supposedly into believing that they are also kids , of-course it is not that difficult to fool a kid , but maybe it is because it is not that hard to pretend on the Internet if you are really putting in the time to do it.I can only guess why the 'pedophile ' line is used here again , is it about the money ?
Is Roy Maxion trying to get a grant money from the government for this 'research ' ?
I think so .
'If children are talking to each other on Windows Live or MSN messenger , Microsoft might be able to see if there 's an adult on there .
' - MSN , the world police .
What are they going to do if there is a suspicion , block access and send cops ? The department , which was formed last summer , believes the new technology could be used to prevent fraud at cash machines .
- ATMs ?
So from pushing 4-6 digit pin and a few menu options they are going to figure out whether it is a woman/man , what 's the age etc ? I can only imagine one possibility : record information collected from the actual account holder pushing the buttons and compare the speed of typing and delays between touches and releases to try and see if it 's the same person .
It 's not as sexy as figuring out person 's age and gender though , is it ? Also how are they going to figure out how pedophiles type ?
Are they going to find actual pedophiles and make them sit in front of a computer and type ?
Did they somehow figure out that pedophiles all have the same typing abilities/habits ?
Do pedophiles all have the same profession and are they really that easy to figure out from the rest of the 'normal ' people ?
Anyway , I think this 'research ' is a load of bull crap and it 's all about grant money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good luck figuring anything out at all from people who are proficient enough in typing, touch-typists with years of experience who is who, who is a man, who is a woman, how old they are.FTFA: men are 'heavy-handed and women are 'lighter' and their typing 'flows more' - that is beat by touch-typing.But the basic problem with this is that it is a Turing test.
Can a 'pedophile' impersonate someone that he/she is not?
I think they should be able to, they fool kids supposedly into believing that they are also kids, of-course it is not that difficult to fool a kid, but maybe it is because it is not that hard to pretend on the Internet if you are really putting in the time to do it.I can only guess why the 'pedophile' line is used here again, is it about the money?
Is Roy Maxion trying to get a grant money from the government for this 'research'?
I think so.
'If children are talking to each other on Windows Live or MSN messenger, Microsoft might be able to see if there's an adult on there.
'  -  MSN, the world police.
What are they going to do if there is a suspicion, block access and send cops?The department, which was formed last summer, believes the new technology could be used to prevent fraud at cash machines.
- ATMs?
So from pushing 4-6 digit pin and a few menu options they are going to figure out whether it is a woman/man, what's the age etc?I can only imagine one possibility: record information collected from the actual account holder pushing the buttons and compare the speed of typing and delays between touches and releases to try and see if it's the same person.
It's not as sexy as figuring out person's age and gender though, is it?Also how are they going to figure out how pedophiles type?
Are they going to find actual pedophiles and make them sit in front of a computer and type?
Did they somehow figure out that pedophiles all have the same typing abilities/habits?
Do pedophiles all have the same profession and are they really that easy to figure out from the rest of the 'normal' people?
Anyway, I think this 'research' is a load of bull crap and it's all about grant money.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611092</id>
	<title>I hate the world</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is another reason I'm always going to be single.  *mutter*</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is another reason I 'm always going to be single .
* mutter *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is another reason I'm always going to be single.
*mutter*</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612710</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Crudely\_Indecent</author>
	<datestamp>1269538740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FTA:</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...men's typing to be a little more heavy-handed...</p></div><p>Do they mean "heavy" as in pressure, or as in awkward?</p><p>The article mentions electronic sensors connected to fingers....really, who does this on a regular basis?</p><p>Sensing typing patterns and speed could be done in software but pressure could only be accomplished with pressure sensitive keyboards; how many people use one of those?</p><p>This sounds (to me) like a sham that's just plausible enough to get funded.  They might be able to make it work in a lab, but the real world is not a tightly controlled environment with sensors attached to fingertips.  The problem I see is that (once the methods are released/discovered) the users this is designed to identify will alter their usage/hardware in order to remain hidden.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTA : ...men 's typing to be a little more heavy-handed...Do they mean " heavy " as in pressure , or as in awkward ? The article mentions electronic sensors connected to fingers....really , who does this on a regular basis ? Sensing typing patterns and speed could be done in software but pressure could only be accomplished with pressure sensitive keyboards ; how many people use one of those ? This sounds ( to me ) like a sham that 's just plausible enough to get funded .
They might be able to make it work in a lab , but the real world is not a tightly controlled environment with sensors attached to fingertips .
The problem I see is that ( once the methods are released/discovered ) the users this is designed to identify will alter their usage/hardware in order to remain hidden .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTA: ...men's typing to be a little more heavy-handed...Do they mean "heavy" as in pressure, or as in awkward?The article mentions electronic sensors connected to fingers....really, who does this on a regular basis?Sensing typing patterns and speed could be done in software but pressure could only be accomplished with pressure sensitive keyboards; how many people use one of those?This sounds (to me) like a sham that's just plausible enough to get funded.
They might be able to make it work in a lab, but the real world is not a tightly controlled environment with sensors attached to fingertips.
The problem I see is that (once the methods are released/discovered) the users this is designed to identify will alter their usage/hardware in order to remain hidden.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610250</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610736</id>
	<title>Re:Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"When will Slashdot learn?"<br>Options:<br>1) I want some of what you're smoking.<br>2) You must be new here....<br>3) When we move out of our parents' basements.<br>4) When hell freezes over.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>69) Profit!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" When will Slashdot learn ?
" Options : 1 ) I want some of what you 're smoking.2 ) You must be new here....3 ) When we move out of our parents ' basements.4 ) When hell freezes over....69 ) Profit ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"When will Slashdot learn?
"Options:1) I want some of what you're smoking.2) You must be new here....3) When we move out of our parents' basements.4) When hell freezes over....69) Profit!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609608</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611464</id>
	<title>Re:Wait... what?</title>
	<author>OrangeTide</author>
	<datestamp>1269534900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>javascript based chat programs can record individual keystrokes, like facebook's, which was mentioned in the article.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>javascript based chat programs can record individual keystrokes , like facebook 's , which was mentioned in the article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>javascript based chat programs can record individual keystrokes, like facebook's, which was mentioned in the article.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609576</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611658</id>
	<title>Discworld reference</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1269535560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Since Phrenology hasn't exactly panned out, they gotta try something new.</i></p><p>Since the invention of retrophrenology, can't we do something about typing habits to convert pedofiles into nonpedofiles. Something to do with hammers and their hands. Large hammers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Phrenology has n't exactly panned out , they got ta try something new.Since the invention of retrophrenology , ca n't we do something about typing habits to convert pedofiles into nonpedofiles .
Something to do with hammers and their hands .
Large hammers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Phrenology hasn't exactly panned out, they gotta try something new.Since the invention of retrophrenology, can't we do something about typing habits to convert pedofiles into nonpedofiles.
Something to do with hammers and their hands.
Large hammers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609866</id>
	<title>Re:Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1269528480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sensationalist bullshit sells papers.<br> <br>Start thinking of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. as what The Register was just before they employed Lester Haines and Andrew Orlowski, or Horizon before Jeremy Vine, and you'll see where<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. is going. More "Idle" stories, more "OMG DINK OF DUR CHILDRENZ!" sensationalism, more 3 line story stubs which link back to a Digg link which links to an article from a less than reputable source.<br> <br>Anybody know of an IT news website which isn't becoming more and more like the IT version of the Daily Star?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sensationalist bullshit sells papers .
Start thinking of / .
as what The Register was just before they employed Lester Haines and Andrew Orlowski , or Horizon before Jeremy Vine , and you 'll see where / .
is going .
More " Idle " stories , more " OMG DINK OF DUR CHILDRENZ !
" sensationalism , more 3 line story stubs which link back to a Digg link which links to an article from a less than reputable source .
Anybody know of an IT news website which is n't becoming more and more like the IT version of the Daily Star ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sensationalist bullshit sells papers.
Start thinking of /.
as what The Register was just before they employed Lester Haines and Andrew Orlowski, or Horizon before Jeremy Vine, and you'll see where /.
is going.
More "Idle" stories, more "OMG DINK OF DUR CHILDRENZ!
" sensationalism, more 3 line story stubs which link back to a Digg link which links to an article from a less than reputable source.
Anybody know of an IT news website which isn't becoming more and more like the IT version of the Daily Star?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609608</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609544</id>
	<title>Left mousing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269526920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looking for "left mousing" would be more accurate...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking for " left mousing " would be more accurate.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking for "left mousing" would be more accurate...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611474</id>
	<title>Re:I could sort off see this working.</title>
	<author>Gaygirlie</author>
	<datestamp>1269534960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed, it's possible to identify someone whom you have already gotten a profile of, but even then it requires that the person typing hasn't f.ex. gotten injured, isn't suffering a really bad (or an extremely good) day and so on.</p><p>Trying to identify someone without having a profile of their typing is just not going to work, there's WAY too many random things: how their day has gone, if they are ill or injured, if there's any distractions, their experience level of computers also dictates how fast or slow they type and so on. As the article claims that women generally type faster than men, well, any geek, professional writer, someone who just tends to write a lot and so on will thwart that method.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , it 's possible to identify someone whom you have already gotten a profile of , but even then it requires that the person typing has n't f.ex .
gotten injured , is n't suffering a really bad ( or an extremely good ) day and so on.Trying to identify someone without having a profile of their typing is just not going to work , there 's WAY too many random things : how their day has gone , if they are ill or injured , if there 's any distractions , their experience level of computers also dictates how fast or slow they type and so on .
As the article claims that women generally type faster than men , well , any geek , professional writer , someone who just tends to write a lot and so on will thwart that method .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, it's possible to identify someone whom you have already gotten a profile of, but even then it requires that the person typing hasn't f.ex.
gotten injured, isn't suffering a really bad (or an extremely good) day and so on.Trying to identify someone without having a profile of their typing is just not going to work, there's WAY too many random things: how their day has gone, if they are ill or injured, if there's any distractions, their experience level of computers also dictates how fast or slow they type and so on.
As the article claims that women generally type faster than men, well, any geek, professional writer, someone who just tends to write a lot and so on will thwart that method.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610108</id>
	<title>Remember graphology?</title>
	<author>jazcap</author>
	<datestamp>1269529800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>For a time in the '70s, World's Fairs, science expos, etc. might feature handwriting analysis by computer. A large, impressive, punchcard-based machine would read your signature or other writing sample and produce a 'description' of your personality.<br> <br>
Graphology has at times significant support, and its use has been explored by criminologists. Nowadays, it's generally considered to be a crock. One of the areas where graphology was earliest discredited was in its (in)ability to tell the gender of a writer.<br> <br>
The Daily Wail article makes similar claims to those made for graphology, including the ability to determine gender, and proposes some of the same uses for the new technique. I suspect this will wind up on the crock-shelf next to graphology.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For a time in the '70s , World 's Fairs , science expos , etc .
might feature handwriting analysis by computer .
A large , impressive , punchcard-based machine would read your signature or other writing sample and produce a 'description ' of your personality .
Graphology has at times significant support , and its use has been explored by criminologists .
Nowadays , it 's generally considered to be a crock .
One of the areas where graphology was earliest discredited was in its ( in ) ability to tell the gender of a writer .
The Daily Wail article makes similar claims to those made for graphology , including the ability to determine gender , and proposes some of the same uses for the new technique .
I suspect this will wind up on the crock-shelf next to graphology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a time in the '70s, World's Fairs, science expos, etc.
might feature handwriting analysis by computer.
A large, impressive, punchcard-based machine would read your signature or other writing sample and produce a 'description' of your personality.
Graphology has at times significant support, and its use has been explored by criminologists.
Nowadays, it's generally considered to be a crock.
One of the areas where graphology was earliest discredited was in its (in)ability to tell the gender of a writer.
The Daily Wail article makes similar claims to those made for graphology, including the ability to determine gender, and proposes some of the same uses for the new technique.
I suspect this will wind up on the crock-shelf next to graphology.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610002</id>
	<title>Keyboard pattern and identity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I did some research into this back in the early 80's, using a person's typing patterns to identify them and worked up the algorithms necessary to implement a 2-factor authentication system, a passphrase in combination with an analysis of the typing pattern as the user inputs the phrase. The main obstacle (human factors) was the training necessary to get a good pattern to compare against. Computers at the time were a lot slower and less capable than they are now. This can work, but it has a LOT of gotchas, such as
what happens when you are injured in the extremities and your pattern changes significantly?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did some research into this back in the early 80 's , using a person 's typing patterns to identify them and worked up the algorithms necessary to implement a 2-factor authentication system , a passphrase in combination with an analysis of the typing pattern as the user inputs the phrase .
The main obstacle ( human factors ) was the training necessary to get a good pattern to compare against .
Computers at the time were a lot slower and less capable than they are now .
This can work , but it has a LOT of gotchas , such as what happens when you are injured in the extremities and your pattern changes significantly ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did some research into this back in the early 80's, using a person's typing patterns to identify them and worked up the algorithms necessary to implement a 2-factor authentication system, a passphrase in combination with an analysis of the typing pattern as the user inputs the phrase.
The main obstacle (human factors) was the training necessary to get a good pattern to compare against.
Computers at the time were a lot slower and less capable than they are now.
This can work, but it has a LOT of gotchas, such as
what happens when you are injured in the extremities and your pattern changes significantly?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611304</id>
	<title>Simple workaround.</title>
	<author>Geeky</author>
	<datestamp>1269534480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Notepad. Cut. Paste.</p><p>(or, if you prefer, some odd combination of hitting esc and 10dd or some finger stretching combo of ctrl+meta+wtf )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Notepad .
Cut. Paste .
( or , if you prefer , some odd combination of hitting esc and 10dd or some finger stretching combo of ctrl + meta + wtf )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notepad.
Cut. Paste.
(or, if you prefer, some odd combination of hitting esc and 10dd or some finger stretching combo of ctrl+meta+wtf )</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610250</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How does this work anyway? Does it account for the fact that I know my keyboard is wearing out and thus tend to hit the keys a bit stronger? Does that make me a man?</p><p>Does it account for the fact that I grew up typing, and don't even need to look at the keyboard or screen while typing, because it "flows"? Does that make me a woman?</p><p>Does it distinguish between typing on a laptop keyboard and a regular one? Since I'm used to laptop keys, I tend to go softer on regular keyboards. Does that make me a pedophile?</p><p>And most importantly: WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How does this work anyway ?
Does it account for the fact that I know my keyboard is wearing out and thus tend to hit the keys a bit stronger ?
Does that make me a man ? Does it account for the fact that I grew up typing , and do n't even need to look at the keyboard or screen while typing , because it " flows " ?
Does that make me a woman ? Does it distinguish between typing on a laptop keyboard and a regular one ?
Since I 'm used to laptop keys , I tend to go softer on regular keyboards .
Does that make me a pedophile ? And most importantly : WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does this work anyway?
Does it account for the fact that I know my keyboard is wearing out and thus tend to hit the keys a bit stronger?
Does that make me a man?Does it account for the fact that I grew up typing, and don't even need to look at the keyboard or screen while typing, because it "flows"?
Does that make me a woman?Does it distinguish between typing on a laptop keyboard and a regular one?
Since I'm used to laptop keys, I tend to go softer on regular keyboards.
Does that make me a pedophile?And most importantly: WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610816</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>corbettw</author>
	<datestamp>1269532860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Couldn't this be used the other way round? Couldn't potential pedophiles monitor the typing speed of the "12-year old girl" with whom they're chatting to determine whether it's really a 40-year old FBI agent?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't this be used the other way round ?
Could n't potential pedophiles monitor the typing speed of the " 12-year old girl " with whom they 're chatting to determine whether it 's really a 40-year old FBI agent ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't this be used the other way round?
Couldn't potential pedophiles monitor the typing speed of the "12-year old girl" with whom they're chatting to determine whether it's really a 40-year old FBI agent?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609566</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610512</id>
	<title>Re:Dvorak</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269531720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Of course, by saying that and posting on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/., I've probably narrowed down my age, sex, and culture enough already</i></p><p>Except for sex, you're wrong. I'm 57, I've run across geezers older than me here, yet we still get the "kill all thos old people cuz their n00bs" posts. As to culture, roughly half are in the US, and Texas culture is nothing like San Fransisco culture, and New York culture bears even less resemblance to either. Then there are the other half who come from diverse countries with diverse cultures.</p><p>There are even females here, although probably not many.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , by saying that and posting on /. , I 've probably narrowed down my age , sex , and culture enough alreadyExcept for sex , you 're wrong .
I 'm 57 , I 've run across geezers older than me here , yet we still get the " kill all thos old people cuz their n00bs " posts .
As to culture , roughly half are in the US , and Texas culture is nothing like San Fransisco culture , and New York culture bears even less resemblance to either .
Then there are the other half who come from diverse countries with diverse cultures.There are even females here , although probably not many .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, by saying that and posting on /., I've probably narrowed down my age, sex, and culture enough alreadyExcept for sex, you're wrong.
I'm 57, I've run across geezers older than me here, yet we still get the "kill all thos old people cuz their n00bs" posts.
As to culture, roughly half are in the US, and Texas culture is nothing like San Fransisco culture, and New York culture bears even less resemblance to either.
Then there are the other half who come from diverse countries with diverse cultures.There are even females here, although probably not many.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610366</id>
	<title>Re:Left mousing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269531000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so what you're saying is you are only a pedophile at work?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so what you 're saying is you are only a pedophile at work ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so what you're saying is you are only a pedophile at work?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610052</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31613054</id>
	<title>keystroke biometrics ...</title>
	<author>lq\_x\_pl</author>
	<datestamp>1269539700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>are nothing new.  An effective way of ensuring someone's identity, but I doubt they can be used to accurately identify someone's age/culture however.</htmltext>
<tokenext>are nothing new .
An effective way of ensuring someone 's identity , but I doubt they can be used to accurately identify someone 's age/culture however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>are nothing new.
An effective way of ensuring someone's identity, but I doubt they can be used to accurately identify someone's age/culture however.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610352</id>
	<title>The worst offender?</title>
	<author>cavis</author>
	<datestamp>1269530880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Should Mavis Beacon go into exile before the Feds close in on her?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Should Mavis Beacon go into exile before the Feds close in on her ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should Mavis Beacon go into exile before the Feds close in on her?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612808</id>
	<title>Re:Wait... what?</title>
	<author>eth1</author>
	<datestamp>1269538980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Besides, if this becomes widespread, it won't be long before someone starts selling a cheap USB pass-through that adds a random delay of a few ms to your keystrokes. Or just gets built into keyboards as a privacy feature.</p><p>Actually, that might not be a bad idea anyway as a security feature against using traffic analysis to divine passwords and such.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Besides , if this becomes widespread , it wo n't be long before someone starts selling a cheap USB pass-through that adds a random delay of a few ms to your keystrokes .
Or just gets built into keyboards as a privacy feature.Actually , that might not be a bad idea anyway as a security feature against using traffic analysis to divine passwords and such .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Besides, if this becomes widespread, it won't be long before someone starts selling a cheap USB pass-through that adds a random delay of a few ms to your keystrokes.
Or just gets built into keyboards as a privacy feature.Actually, that might not be a bad idea anyway as a security feature against using traffic analysis to divine passwords and such.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609576</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609608</id>
	<title>Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269527160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When will Slashdot learn?</p><p>Daily Mail is sensationalist bullshit from the UK.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When will Slashdot learn ? Daily Mail is sensationalist bullshit from the UK .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When will Slashdot learn?Daily Mail is sensationalist bullshit from the UK.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611166</id>
	<title>variables</title>
	<author>theeddie55</author>
	<datestamp>1269534120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My typing speed and rhythm can vary wildly, rather dependent on my alcohol and caffeine content amongst many other factors. I fail to see how a system can take account of so many unknown variables.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My typing speed and rhythm can vary wildly , rather dependent on my alcohol and caffeine content amongst many other factors .
I fail to see how a system can take account of so many unknown variables .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My typing speed and rhythm can vary wildly, rather dependent on my alcohol and caffeine content amongst many other factors.
I fail to see how a system can take account of so many unknown variables.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611510</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Tanktalus</author>
	<datestamp>1269535080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, according to <a href="http://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.html" title="hackerfactor.com">Gender Guesser</a> [hackerfactor.com], you come across as:<br>
<tt>Genre: Informal<br>
  Female = 530<br>
  Male   = 892<br>
  Difference = 362; 62.72\%<br>
  Verdict: MALE<br>
</tt>
It's been going on for ages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , according to Gender Guesser [ hackerfactor.com ] , you come across as : Genre : Informal Female = 530 Male = 892 Difference = 362 ; 62.72 \ % Verdict : MALE It 's been going on for ages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, according to Gender Guesser [hackerfactor.com], you come across as:
Genre: Informal
  Female = 530
  Male   = 892
  Difference = 362; 62.72\%
  Verdict: MALE

It's been going on for ages.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610696</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611456</id>
	<title>Headline could be far, far worse</title>
	<author>dbIII</author>
	<datestamp>1269534900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the days of morse code the distinctive way an operator keyed in the messages was called their "fist".</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the days of morse code the distinctive way an operator keyed in the messages was called their " fist " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the days of morse code the distinctive way an operator keyed in the messages was called their "fist".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31613738</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>thesandtiger</author>
	<datestamp>1269541860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, and those are the kinds of things that I'm talking about.</p><p>On Slashdot there is generally a "way" that I post that helps get my point across to the geekly sorts who are engaged in discussions of the things I am interested in here. That way is a bit more confrontational and acerbic than I would usually write and also a bit more concrete rather than relative. On Slashdot I'm talking about (usually) things or concepts relating to things, rather than interpersonal dynamics and other concepts that would be more likely to generate a "female" reading.</p><p>Messing around I took my post history on various other forums I frequent and it turns up the (not very) shocking discovery:</p><p>A pet forum I have posted in about my adoption &amp; rehab of a pit bull: 86\% female<br>A games forum I have posted in, usually about technical issues like writing addons, scripts and mods: 68\% male<br>A work related forum where we talk about self-care &amp; handling issues that come up when doing research with participants: 88\% female (and, amusingly, every single one of my male co-workers comes up as in the high 80's female)</p><p>These things need to be taken in context. I've had people who've read essays and papers I've written be stunned when they met me in person - they envisioned a much older person, usually male, simply because of my tone. I've had people who I've worked with on collaborative projects at remote sites also assume - if I only go by my initials, which I often do in informal emails - that I was a guy, and much older - in my late 50's at least. Given that I'm a female under 40, this is usually pretty surprising when people had different expectations. A coworker of mine - straight, white, male and christian - recently wrote a piece about issues relating to gay marriage &amp; the privilege of majority classes in the US and was accused by critics who said that the piece was self-serving, because the author, obviously a gay woman of color, was only seeing things from "her" point of view.</p><p>Amusingly it also goes the other way - I work on a university campus, dress very casually (a lot of my work is with pre-teens and teens), and also, I guess, look pretty youthful; people are often times stunned that I'm as old as I am, and that I'm in the position I am. When I teach I've often had students assume that I was another student until I step up to the lectern and kick off the first class. On a few instances I've had older students - people coming back to school in their 50's - get swarmed by students who have questions because they think that student must be the professor.</p><p>Anyway, it really is amazing that people would think they can have such a solid read (though I'm sure it's the "journalist" behind the article simplifying things to make it sensational) in just 10 keystrokes, regardless of context, when people who have vastly more information to go on can't actually make correct determinations when factors don't adhere rigidly to the stereotypes. Given that pedophiles are probably going to be "off the norm" in quite a few different areas (read: anyone who molests children is gonna have issues other than that they molest children), I'm not really seeing how it would be possible to get an accurate read on who they are and where they're from. My bet is that the people behind this are after some of that fat "think of the children!!!" money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , and those are the kinds of things that I 'm talking about.On Slashdot there is generally a " way " that I post that helps get my point across to the geekly sorts who are engaged in discussions of the things I am interested in here .
That way is a bit more confrontational and acerbic than I would usually write and also a bit more concrete rather than relative .
On Slashdot I 'm talking about ( usually ) things or concepts relating to things , rather than interpersonal dynamics and other concepts that would be more likely to generate a " female " reading.Messing around I took my post history on various other forums I frequent and it turns up the ( not very ) shocking discovery : A pet forum I have posted in about my adoption &amp; rehab of a pit bull : 86 \ % femaleA games forum I have posted in , usually about technical issues like writing addons , scripts and mods : 68 \ % maleA work related forum where we talk about self-care &amp; handling issues that come up when doing research with participants : 88 \ % female ( and , amusingly , every single one of my male co-workers comes up as in the high 80 's female ) These things need to be taken in context .
I 've had people who 've read essays and papers I 've written be stunned when they met me in person - they envisioned a much older person , usually male , simply because of my tone .
I 've had people who I 've worked with on collaborative projects at remote sites also assume - if I only go by my initials , which I often do in informal emails - that I was a guy , and much older - in my late 50 's at least .
Given that I 'm a female under 40 , this is usually pretty surprising when people had different expectations .
A coworker of mine - straight , white , male and christian - recently wrote a piece about issues relating to gay marriage &amp; the privilege of majority classes in the US and was accused by critics who said that the piece was self-serving , because the author , obviously a gay woman of color , was only seeing things from " her " point of view.Amusingly it also goes the other way - I work on a university campus , dress very casually ( a lot of my work is with pre-teens and teens ) , and also , I guess , look pretty youthful ; people are often times stunned that I 'm as old as I am , and that I 'm in the position I am .
When I teach I 've often had students assume that I was another student until I step up to the lectern and kick off the first class .
On a few instances I 've had older students - people coming back to school in their 50 's - get swarmed by students who have questions because they think that student must be the professor.Anyway , it really is amazing that people would think they can have such a solid read ( though I 'm sure it 's the " journalist " behind the article simplifying things to make it sensational ) in just 10 keystrokes , regardless of context , when people who have vastly more information to go on ca n't actually make correct determinations when factors do n't adhere rigidly to the stereotypes .
Given that pedophiles are probably going to be " off the norm " in quite a few different areas ( read : anyone who molests children is gon na have issues other than that they molest children ) , I 'm not really seeing how it would be possible to get an accurate read on who they are and where they 're from .
My bet is that the people behind this are after some of that fat " think of the children ! ! !
" money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, and those are the kinds of things that I'm talking about.On Slashdot there is generally a "way" that I post that helps get my point across to the geekly sorts who are engaged in discussions of the things I am interested in here.
That way is a bit more confrontational and acerbic than I would usually write and also a bit more concrete rather than relative.
On Slashdot I'm talking about (usually) things or concepts relating to things, rather than interpersonal dynamics and other concepts that would be more likely to generate a "female" reading.Messing around I took my post history on various other forums I frequent and it turns up the (not very) shocking discovery:A pet forum I have posted in about my adoption &amp; rehab of a pit bull: 86\% femaleA games forum I have posted in, usually about technical issues like writing addons, scripts and mods: 68\% maleA work related forum where we talk about self-care &amp; handling issues that come up when doing research with participants: 88\% female (and, amusingly, every single one of my male co-workers comes up as in the high 80's female)These things need to be taken in context.
I've had people who've read essays and papers I've written be stunned when they met me in person - they envisioned a much older person, usually male, simply because of my tone.
I've had people who I've worked with on collaborative projects at remote sites also assume - if I only go by my initials, which I often do in informal emails - that I was a guy, and much older - in my late 50's at least.
Given that I'm a female under 40, this is usually pretty surprising when people had different expectations.
A coworker of mine - straight, white, male and christian - recently wrote a piece about issues relating to gay marriage &amp; the privilege of majority classes in the US and was accused by critics who said that the piece was self-serving, because the author, obviously a gay woman of color, was only seeing things from "her" point of view.Amusingly it also goes the other way - I work on a university campus, dress very casually (a lot of my work is with pre-teens and teens), and also, I guess, look pretty youthful; people are often times stunned that I'm as old as I am, and that I'm in the position I am.
When I teach I've often had students assume that I was another student until I step up to the lectern and kick off the first class.
On a few instances I've had older students - people coming back to school in their 50's - get swarmed by students who have questions because they think that student must be the professor.Anyway, it really is amazing that people would think they can have such a solid read (though I'm sure it's the "journalist" behind the article simplifying things to make it sensational) in just 10 keystrokes, regardless of context, when people who have vastly more information to go on can't actually make correct determinations when factors don't adhere rigidly to the stereotypes.
Given that pedophiles are probably going to be "off the norm" in quite a few different areas (read: anyone who molests children is gonna have issues other than that they molest children), I'm not really seeing how it would be possible to get an accurate read on who they are and where they're from.
My bet is that the people behind this are after some of that fat "think of the children!!!
" money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610556</id>
	<title>Re:In the real world, we have Republicans.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269531960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This kind of flamebaitery got labeled "insightful"?</p><p>Joe "ban video games" Lieberman is a democrat. Obama's White House has actually been worse for civil liberties and worse for consumers in the arena of things like Net Neutrality and reform of IP law than the republicans were. They've rejected more FOIA requests on "national security" grounds than Bush and his cronies ever had the temerity to, probably because Bush and his cronies knew the media were watching like hawks while the media is still simping and fawning over Obama.</p><p>Neither party is good for technology, neither party realizes the limitations of technology, and neither party gives a flaming crap about "justice."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This kind of flamebaitery got labeled " insightful " ? Joe " ban video games " Lieberman is a democrat .
Obama 's White House has actually been worse for civil liberties and worse for consumers in the arena of things like Net Neutrality and reform of IP law than the republicans were .
They 've rejected more FOIA requests on " national security " grounds than Bush and his cronies ever had the temerity to , probably because Bush and his cronies knew the media were watching like hawks while the media is still simping and fawning over Obama.Neither party is good for technology , neither party realizes the limitations of technology , and neither party gives a flaming crap about " justice .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This kind of flamebaitery got labeled "insightful"?Joe "ban video games" Lieberman is a democrat.
Obama's White House has actually been worse for civil liberties and worse for consumers in the arena of things like Net Neutrality and reform of IP law than the republicans were.
They've rejected more FOIA requests on "national security" grounds than Bush and his cronies ever had the temerity to, probably because Bush and his cronies knew the media were watching like hawks while the media is still simping and fawning over Obama.Neither party is good for technology, neither party realizes the limitations of technology, and neither party gives a flaming crap about "justice.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609844</id>
	<title>Great</title>
	<author>vadim\_t</author>
	<datestamp>1269528360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course, there's no way children and adults could ever legitimately interact anywhere online. They never happen to play the same games, post to the same forums, and parents never talk to their children online.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , there 's no way children and adults could ever legitimately interact anywhere online .
They never happen to play the same games , post to the same forums , and parents never talk to their children online .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, there's no way children and adults could ever legitimately interact anywhere online.
They never happen to play the same games, post to the same forums, and parents never talk to their children online.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610156</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>English French Man</author>
	<datestamp>1269529980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Problem is, there is nothing illegal in pretending to be a 12 year old girl when actually a 40 year old man. Or copy-pasting into textboxes to avoid typing pattern detection.</p><p>So we are talking about a method for detecting something that isn't illegal by itself (it becomes illegal when the 40 year old guy invites her new friend in his house to mistreat her) and flagging it as suspicious. Automatic crime detection leads to an unfair justice system IMHO. In addition, flagging someone for a crime that, statistically, they have more chance of committing than others I find wrong too.</p><p>Last, but not least, how many false positives? How many 12 year old girls type like 40 year old guys? What would be the consequences?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Problem is , there is nothing illegal in pretending to be a 12 year old girl when actually a 40 year old man .
Or copy-pasting into textboxes to avoid typing pattern detection.So we are talking about a method for detecting something that is n't illegal by itself ( it becomes illegal when the 40 year old guy invites her new friend in his house to mistreat her ) and flagging it as suspicious .
Automatic crime detection leads to an unfair justice system IMHO .
In addition , flagging someone for a crime that , statistically , they have more chance of committing than others I find wrong too.Last , but not least , how many false positives ?
How many 12 year old girls type like 40 year old guys ?
What would be the consequences ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Problem is, there is nothing illegal in pretending to be a 12 year old girl when actually a 40 year old man.
Or copy-pasting into textboxes to avoid typing pattern detection.So we are talking about a method for detecting something that isn't illegal by itself (it becomes illegal when the 40 year old guy invites her new friend in his house to mistreat her) and flagging it as suspicious.
Automatic crime detection leads to an unfair justice system IMHO.
In addition, flagging someone for a crime that, statistically, they have more chance of committing than others I find wrong too.Last, but not least, how many false positives?
How many 12 year old girls type like 40 year old guys?
What would be the consequences?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609612</id>
	<title>Pecking?</title>
	<author>beatsme</author>
	<datestamp>1269527160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems like the way a person was taught to type and their experience with a keyboard would determine to a large extent their speed and rhythm (and accuracy). Not to mention what they're doing besides typing on MSN or whatever. If you're drinking a cup of coffee with one hand... or switching between windows. There are way too many factors at play. Phrenology at least had the advantage of a theoretical framework. Hell, even hand-writing analysis had fewer confounding factors.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems like the way a person was taught to type and their experience with a keyboard would determine to a large extent their speed and rhythm ( and accuracy ) .
Not to mention what they 're doing besides typing on MSN or whatever .
If you 're drinking a cup of coffee with one hand... or switching between windows .
There are way too many factors at play .
Phrenology at least had the advantage of a theoretical framework .
Hell , even hand-writing analysis had fewer confounding factors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems like the way a person was taught to type and their experience with a keyboard would determine to a large extent their speed and rhythm (and accuracy).
Not to mention what they're doing besides typing on MSN or whatever.
If you're drinking a cup of coffee with one hand... or switching between windows.
There are way too many factors at play.
Phrenology at least had the advantage of a theoretical framework.
Hell, even hand-writing analysis had fewer confounding factors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612086</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>Arthur Grumbine</author>
	<datestamp>1269536820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How many 12 year old girls type like 40 year old guys? What would be the consequences?</p></div><p>Obviously we'd be able to catch these future-predators-in-sheep's-clothing before they got a chance to grow-up and become 40-year-old men.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many 12 year old girls type like 40 year old guys ?
What would be the consequences ? Obviously we 'd be able to catch these future-predators-in-sheep 's-clothing before they got a chance to grow-up and become 40-year-old men .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many 12 year old girls type like 40 year old guys?
What would be the consequences?Obviously we'd be able to catch these future-predators-in-sheep's-clothing before they got a chance to grow-up and become 40-year-old men.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31614490</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269544200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK?</p></div><p>Clearly you are trying to communicate with an audience unfamiliar with lower case letters. My guess? Young boys. You sicken me.</p></div><p>We've just refined the algorithm.<br>It appears he was FAPPING when he typed that sentence<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK ? Clearly you are trying to communicate with an audience unfamiliar with lower case letters .
My guess ?
Young boys .
You sicken me.We 've just refined the algorithm.It appears he was FAPPING when he typed that sentence : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK?Clearly you are trying to communicate with an audience unfamiliar with lower case letters.
My guess?
Young boys.
You sicken me.We've just refined the algorithm.It appears he was FAPPING when he typed that sentence :)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610380</id>
	<title>Type without rhythm...</title>
	<author>Half-pint HAL</author>
	<datestamp>1269531060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Type without rhythm and it won't attract the worm. Or the fuzz.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Type without rhythm and it wo n't attract the worm .
Or the fuzz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Type without rhythm and it won't attract the worm.
Or the fuzz.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31620310</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269524940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More snake oil: just like the polygraph test. The 21st century looks to be overflowing with such BS.</p><p>So far we have seen:</p><p>Cameras that flag you if you seem agitated (at the airport? Never!)</p><p>Brain scanners which claim to "read your thoughts" (sure, sure.)</p><p>Naked body scanners which don't do much other than radiate you and give free peep shows to the TSA (and make Michael Chertoffs stock in the manufacturer go up. *ahem*)</p><p>Cyber security/surveillence buearos to spy on non-existent threats (that just conveniently happen to be directed at peaceful political activists and bloggers)</p><p>Now, we have typing analysis? What next, if you have a slight limp in your left leg it means you're a mass murdering psychopath?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More snake oil : just like the polygraph test .
The 21st century looks to be overflowing with such BS.So far we have seen : Cameras that flag you if you seem agitated ( at the airport ?
Never ! ) Brain scanners which claim to " read your thoughts " ( sure , sure .
) Naked body scanners which do n't do much other than radiate you and give free peep shows to the TSA ( and make Michael Chertoffs stock in the manufacturer go up .
* ahem * ) Cyber security/surveillence buearos to spy on non-existent threats ( that just conveniently happen to be directed at peaceful political activists and bloggers ) Now , we have typing analysis ?
What next , if you have a slight limp in your left leg it means you 're a mass murdering psychopath ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More snake oil: just like the polygraph test.
The 21st century looks to be overflowing with such BS.So far we have seen:Cameras that flag you if you seem agitated (at the airport?
Never!)Brain scanners which claim to "read your thoughts" (sure, sure.
)Naked body scanners which don't do much other than radiate you and give free peep shows to the TSA (and make Michael Chertoffs stock in the manufacturer go up.
*ahem*)Cyber security/surveillence buearos to spy on non-existent threats (that just conveniently happen to be directed at peaceful political activists and bloggers)Now, we have typing analysis?
What next, if you have a slight limp in your left leg it means you're a mass murdering psychopath?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31614274</id>
	<title>Re:Congrats!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269543360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hahahahahaha! You think a monitoring service like this would have to be <i>voluntary?</i> You must be new here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hahahahahaha !
You think a monitoring service like this would have to be voluntary ?
You must be new here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hahahahahaha!
You think a monitoring service like this would have to be voluntary?
You must be new here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609572</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610790</id>
	<title>Re:Foolproof</title>
	<author>YourExperiment</author>
	<datestamp>1269532800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm particularly impressed by his methods. He "hooks their fingers up to electronic sensors", then "videos, monitors and records their typing patterns, speeds and rhythms with a very accurate clock".</p><p>Perhaps he's not aware that computer keyboards are often already connected to an "advanced monitoring device", and that this device is usually equipped with a "very accurate clock".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm particularly impressed by his methods .
He " hooks their fingers up to electronic sensors " , then " videos , monitors and records their typing patterns , speeds and rhythms with a very accurate clock " .Perhaps he 's not aware that computer keyboards are often already connected to an " advanced monitoring device " , and that this device is usually equipped with a " very accurate clock " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm particularly impressed by his methods.
He "hooks their fingers up to electronic sensors", then "videos, monitors and records their typing patterns, speeds and rhythms with a very accurate clock".Perhaps he's not aware that computer keyboards are often already connected to an "advanced monitoring device", and that this device is usually equipped with a "very accurate clock".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612230</id>
	<title>Re:Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269537240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That could explain why the company net nanny blocked me when I attempted to access what I thought was a news site.  Normally, it allows news, but blocks any sort of entertainment or adult humor type content.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That could explain why the company net nanny blocked me when I attempted to access what I thought was a news site .
Normally , it allows news , but blocks any sort of entertainment or adult humor type content .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That could explain why the company net nanny blocked me when I attempted to access what I thought was a news site.
Normally, it allows news, but blocks any sort of entertainment or adult humor type content.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610864</id>
	<title>Re:Left mousing?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1269532980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I&rsquo;m left-handed, you insensitive clod!! (really!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I    m left-handed , you insensitive clod ! !
( really ! )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I’m left-handed, you insensitive clod!!
(really!)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609544</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610256</id>
	<title>So will this be as speechrecognition?</title>
	<author>ZeroExistenZ</author>
	<datestamp>1269530400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depending on my mood alone, I have a different typing style. At work I have a different chair which forces a more upright posture, which changes my typing.. also the type of thing I would be typing: if I'm inspired my typing is very fast and in a continious stream, in a chat it's often less quick.</p><p>I doubt there is anyone who has a continious typing habit. It's just a curiosity and technical exercise, the "pedo"-tag helps them justify their work</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depending on my mood alone , I have a different typing style .
At work I have a different chair which forces a more upright posture , which changes my typing.. also the type of thing I would be typing : if I 'm inspired my typing is very fast and in a continious stream , in a chat it 's often less quick.I doubt there is anyone who has a continious typing habit .
It 's just a curiosity and technical exercise , the " pedo " -tag helps them justify their work</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depending on my mood alone, I have a different typing style.
At work I have a different chair which forces a more upright posture, which changes my typing.. also the type of thing I would be typing: if I'm inspired my typing is very fast and in a continious stream, in a chat it's often less quick.I doubt there is anyone who has a continious typing habit.
It's just a curiosity and technical exercise, the "pedo"-tag helps them justify their work</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609852</id>
	<title>Re:Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>boneglorious</author>
	<datestamp>1269528420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, mainstream reporting on science is generally sensationalistic. Even "well respected" news sources tend to say to the researcher, "How far can you possibly imagine taking this in the future?" and then publishing the answer, without any qualification, as what's being done.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , mainstream reporting on science is generally sensationalistic .
Even " well respected " news sources tend to say to the researcher , " How far can you possibly imagine taking this in the future ?
" and then publishing the answer , without any qualification , as what 's being done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, mainstream reporting on science is generally sensationalistic.
Even "well respected" news sources tend to say to the researcher, "How far can you possibly imagine taking this in the future?
" and then publishing the answer, without any qualification, as what's being done.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609608</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609530</id>
	<title>actually it will work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269526860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>they're hunt-and-peckers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>they 're hunt-and-peckers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they're hunt-and-peckers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610320</id>
	<title>Re:In the real world, we have Republicans.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Please keep in mind that, in reality, we have to deal with Republicans, "Teabaggers", and others of their ilk.</i></p><p><i>They don't realize the limitations of technology. They don't particularly care about fair justice, either.</i></p><p><i>So they have absolutely no qualms about referring to somebody they dislike as a "pedophile", and then backing it up with this sort of keystroke analysis as "proof".</i></p><p>Given that the left-wing Labour party has been in power in the UK for many years, and has removed far more rights from its citizens than the Republicans ever did, I find your political labeling analysis to be pointless.</p><p>And President Hopenchange is no better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please keep in mind that , in reality , we have to deal with Republicans , " Teabaggers " , and others of their ilk.They do n't realize the limitations of technology .
They do n't particularly care about fair justice , either.So they have absolutely no qualms about referring to somebody they dislike as a " pedophile " , and then backing it up with this sort of keystroke analysis as " proof " .Given that the left-wing Labour party has been in power in the UK for many years , and has removed far more rights from its citizens than the Republicans ever did , I find your political labeling analysis to be pointless.And President Hopenchange is no better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please keep in mind that, in reality, we have to deal with Republicans, "Teabaggers", and others of their ilk.They don't realize the limitations of technology.
They don't particularly care about fair justice, either.So they have absolutely no qualms about referring to somebody they dislike as a "pedophile", and then backing it up with this sort of keystroke analysis as "proof".Given that the left-wing Labour party has been in power in the UK for many years, and has removed far more rights from its citizens than the Republicans ever did, I find your political labeling analysis to be pointless.And President Hopenchange is no better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609848</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611884</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>rickb928</author>
	<datestamp>1269536220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do you suppose this system might be able to detect the force you use in typing?</p><p>Duh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do you suppose this system might be able to detect the force you use in typing ? Duh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do you suppose this system might be able to detect the force you use in typing?Duh?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610250</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611056</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>Jurily</author>
	<datestamp>1269533700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Copy-pasting all text is a very odd way of typing and could be flagged.</p></div><p>From your argument, it follows, that</p><p>
&nbsp; - quoting from the post you're answering to is very odd and could be flagged<br>
&nbsp; - youtube links are very odd and could be flagged<br>
&nbsp; - sharing a patch with fellow developers is very odd and could be flagged</p><p>But nevermind that. Let's say the typing monitor works perfectly, and it can accurately detect who you want to have sex with (and whether you're going to rape and murder them). Let's say today it says I'm heterosexual and perfectly normal.</p><p>If I decide tomorrow that I like 6 year old boys better, and dump my girlfriend, what exactly will change in my typing that makes me detectable, how does it change, and most importantly, why would it? Remember, the algorithm is perfect.</p><p>And who the fuck came up with the idea that people have only typing style? Do you sometimes drink coffee while typing? Do you sometimes use the mouse while typing? Does one of your keys not work perfectly every time so you have to stop and think about it for a moment?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Copy-pasting all text is a very odd way of typing and could be flagged.From your argument , it follows , that   - quoting from the post you 're answering to is very odd and could be flagged   - youtube links are very odd and could be flagged   - sharing a patch with fellow developers is very odd and could be flaggedBut nevermind that .
Let 's say the typing monitor works perfectly , and it can accurately detect who you want to have sex with ( and whether you 're going to rape and murder them ) .
Let 's say today it says I 'm heterosexual and perfectly normal.If I decide tomorrow that I like 6 year old boys better , and dump my girlfriend , what exactly will change in my typing that makes me detectable , how does it change , and most importantly , why would it ?
Remember , the algorithm is perfect.And who the fuck came up with the idea that people have only typing style ?
Do you sometimes drink coffee while typing ?
Do you sometimes use the mouse while typing ?
Does one of your keys not work perfectly every time so you have to stop and think about it for a moment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Copy-pasting all text is a very odd way of typing and could be flagged.From your argument, it follows, that
  - quoting from the post you're answering to is very odd and could be flagged
  - youtube links are very odd and could be flagged
  - sharing a patch with fellow developers is very odd and could be flaggedBut nevermind that.
Let's say the typing monitor works perfectly, and it can accurately detect who you want to have sex with (and whether you're going to rape and murder them).
Let's say today it says I'm heterosexual and perfectly normal.If I decide tomorrow that I like 6 year old boys better, and dump my girlfriend, what exactly will change in my typing that makes me detectable, how does it change, and most importantly, why would it?
Remember, the algorithm is perfect.And who the fuck came up with the idea that people have only typing style?
Do you sometimes drink coffee while typing?
Do you sometimes use the mouse while typing?
Does one of your keys not work perfectly every time so you have to stop and think about it for a moment?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609978</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1269529080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yup.</p><p>so simply slap in a lot of OMG! and completely butcher spelling and grammar to thwart the "scanners"</p><p>Honestly, I could write a greasemonkey script to emulate the atrocious communications that teens and pre teens have.   Hell that same script could simply act as one with some really simple AI rules.</p><p>OMG!  Rlly?<br>u suk.<br>OMG!<br>OMG?<br>cl m l8ter k?<br>y<br>u suk!!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>OMG!</p><p>Ok I feel like I just lost 30 IQ points...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup.so simply slap in a lot of OMG !
and completely butcher spelling and grammar to thwart the " scanners " Honestly , I could write a greasemonkey script to emulate the atrocious communications that teens and pre teens have .
Hell that same script could simply act as one with some really simple AI rules.OMG !
Rlly ? u suk.OMG ! OMG ? cl m l8ter k ? yu suk ! !
: ) OMG ! Ok I feel like I just lost 30 IQ points.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup.so simply slap in a lot of OMG!
and completely butcher spelling and grammar to thwart the "scanners"Honestly, I could write a greasemonkey script to emulate the atrocious communications that teens and pre teens have.
Hell that same script could simply act as one with some really simple AI rules.OMG!
Rlly?u suk.OMG!OMG?cl m l8ter k?yu suk!!
:)OMG!Ok I feel like I just lost 30 IQ points...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610266</id>
	<title>Re:Dvorak</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dvorak? We already know such keyboard users are sociopaths, why would we need to know if they are \_also\_ pedophiles? One creepy personality trait per keyboard user is sufficient.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dvorak ?
We already know such keyboard users are sociopaths , why would we need to know if they are \ _also \ _ pedophiles ?
One creepy personality trait per keyboard user is sufficient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dvorak?
We already know such keyboard users are sociopaths, why would we need to know if they are \_also\_ pedophiles?
One creepy personality trait per keyboard user is sufficient.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610482</id>
	<title>Re:Left mousing?</title>
	<author>masmullin</author>
	<datestamp>1269531540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Im calling the FBI.  You ambidexterous mouser!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Im calling the FBI .
You ambidexterous mouser !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Im calling the FBI.
You ambidexterous mouser!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609646</id>
	<title>Doesn't sound like pseudoscience at all</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1269527280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure that trying to tracking a person's sexual inclinations by their typing habits will prove to be every bit as useful as the science of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrenology" title="wikipedia.org">Phrenology</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure that trying to tracking a person 's sexual inclinations by their typing habits will prove to be every bit as useful as the science of Phrenology [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure that trying to tracking a person's sexual inclinations by their typing habits will prove to be every bit as useful as the science of Phrenology [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611802</id>
	<title>Next logical step</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1269535980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Clearly the next step here is to pass a bill mandating that all keyboards dial home to the (soon-to-be-established) National Child Protection Agency, including not only typing patterns but also <a href="http://cires.colorado.edu/news/press/2010/fiererBacteria.html" title="colorado.edu">bacteria patterns</a> [colorado.edu]. ~  I, for one,  welcome our new keyboard-monitoring overloads!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly the next step here is to pass a bill mandating that all keyboards dial home to the ( soon-to-be-established ) National Child Protection Agency , including not only typing patterns but also bacteria patterns [ colorado.edu ] .
~ I , for one , welcome our new keyboard-monitoring overloads !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly the next step here is to pass a bill mandating that all keyboards dial home to the (soon-to-be-established) National Child Protection Agency, including not only typing patterns but also bacteria patterns [colorado.edu].
~  I, for one,  welcome our new keyboard-monitoring overloads!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612494</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1269538020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry, it's just a screening test. They'll verify it by the bumps on your head and the shape of your brow before they burn you at the stake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry , it 's just a screening test .
They 'll verify it by the bumps on your head and the shape of your brow before they burn you at the stake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry, it's just a screening test.
They'll verify it by the bumps on your head and the shape of your brow before they burn you at the stake.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31622354</id>
	<title>Re:Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>Lunzo</author>
	<datestamp>1269543120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree with you apart from the conspiracy theory of making the government happy. The Mail distracts their readership from the big issues facing the world to keep their readers happy. The two minutes' hate towards foreigners, pedos, terrorists, whatever is the perfect distraction from depressing big issues. After they're finished frothing at the mouth they can go back to their boring middle class lives.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with you apart from the conspiracy theory of making the government happy .
The Mail distracts their readership from the big issues facing the world to keep their readers happy .
The two minutes ' hate towards foreigners , pedos , terrorists , whatever is the perfect distraction from depressing big issues .
After they 're finished frothing at the mouth they can go back to their boring middle class lives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with you apart from the conspiracy theory of making the government happy.
The Mail distracts their readership from the big issues facing the world to keep their readers happy.
The two minutes' hate towards foreigners, pedos, terrorists, whatever is the perfect distraction from depressing big issues.
After they're finished frothing at the mouth they can go back to their boring middle class lives.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610330</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1269530760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The idea of this would be that if you can tell that somebody is a 40 year old man, and they are on a forum saying they are a 12 year old girl, you can flag that as being suspicious.</p></div><p>Somehow this sounds more like a tool for pedos to find out who's really a 12 year old girl and not a 40 year old man... Police sting? Anti-pedo vigilante? People just yanking your chain pretending? Aha... a real 12yo girl, jackpot. Not to mention I can imagine many really weird situations from false positives. There's so many holes it this logic there's more holes than logic.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The idea of this would be that if you can tell that somebody is a 40 year old man , and they are on a forum saying they are a 12 year old girl , you can flag that as being suspicious.Somehow this sounds more like a tool for pedos to find out who 's really a 12 year old girl and not a 40 year old man... Police sting ?
Anti-pedo vigilante ?
People just yanking your chain pretending ?
Aha... a real 12yo girl , jackpot .
Not to mention I can imagine many really weird situations from false positives .
There 's so many holes it this logic there 's more holes than logic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The idea of this would be that if you can tell that somebody is a 40 year old man, and they are on a forum saying they are a 12 year old girl, you can flag that as being suspicious.Somehow this sounds more like a tool for pedos to find out who's really a 12 year old girl and not a 40 year old man... Police sting?
Anti-pedo vigilante?
People just yanking your chain pretending?
Aha... a real 12yo girl, jackpot.
Not to mention I can imagine many really weird situations from false positives.
There's so many holes it this logic there's more holes than logic.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611562</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>jda104</author>
	<datestamp>1269535260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Regarding the visibility of typing patterns, any in-browser chat/forum will likely use Javascript on the client side. JS provides access to the Key Up and Key Down events in text boxes; adding time stamps to those events is trivial.

And I agree that being a 40 year old man doesn't make you a pedophile, but I think, probabilistically, that being a 40 year old man in a "Teenz Only!!1!" chatroom may rightfully raise a flag or two.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Regarding the visibility of typing patterns , any in-browser chat/forum will likely use Javascript on the client side .
JS provides access to the Key Up and Key Down events in text boxes ; adding time stamps to those events is trivial .
And I agree that being a 40 year old man does n't make you a pedophile , but I think , probabilistically , that being a 40 year old man in a " Teenz Only ! ! 1 !
" chatroom may rightfully raise a flag or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regarding the visibility of typing patterns, any in-browser chat/forum will likely use Javascript on the client side.
JS provides access to the Key Up and Key Down events in text boxes; adding time stamps to those events is trivial.
And I agree that being a 40 year old man doesn't make you a pedophile, but I think, probabilistically, that being a 40 year old man in a "Teenz Only!!1!
" chatroom may rightfully raise a flag or two.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612038</id>
	<title>Re:In the real world, we have Republicans.</title>
	<author>AB3A</author>
	<datestamp>1269536640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please keep in mind that, in reality, we have to deal with Slashdot "moderators" and others of their ilk.</p><p>They don't realize their limitations of intelligence. They don't particularly care about factual accuracy, either.</p><p>So they have absolutely no qualms about referring to somebody they dislike as a "pedophile", and then backing it up with this sort of keystroke moderation as "proof."</p><p>If you don't believe me, just look at how they justified moderating this post.  They showed computer generated images of this "web page" and pictures of perverts, all available on the Internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please keep in mind that , in reality , we have to deal with Slashdot " moderators " and others of their ilk.They do n't realize their limitations of intelligence .
They do n't particularly care about factual accuracy , either.So they have absolutely no qualms about referring to somebody they dislike as a " pedophile " , and then backing it up with this sort of keystroke moderation as " proof .
" If you do n't believe me , just look at how they justified moderating this post .
They showed computer generated images of this " web page " and pictures of perverts , all available on the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please keep in mind that, in reality, we have to deal with Slashdot "moderators" and others of their ilk.They don't realize their limitations of intelligence.
They don't particularly care about factual accuracy, either.So they have absolutely no qualms about referring to somebody they dislike as a "pedophile", and then backing it up with this sort of keystroke moderation as "proof.
"If you don't believe me, just look at how they justified moderating this post.
They showed computer generated images of this "web page" and pictures of perverts, all available on the Internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611836</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>WrongSizeGlass</author>
	<datestamp>1269536040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How does this work anyway? Does it account for the fact that I know my keyboard is wearing out and thus tend to hit the keys a bit stronger? Does that make me a man?</p></div><p>Um, no<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... what makes you a <i>man</i> is, well, I'll try to find you a wikipedia page for that.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Does it account for the fact that I grew up typing, and don't even need to look at the keyboard or screen while typing, because it "flows"? Does that make me a woman?</p></div><p>Um, no<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I'll try to find you a different wikipedia page about that.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Does it distinguish between typing on a laptop keyboard and a regular one? Since I'm used to laptop keys, I tend to go softer on regular keyboards. Does that make me a pedophile?</p></div><p>Um, no<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... a pedophile would ask that question as an AC, unless of course, they were trying <i>not</i> to appear as a pedophile. Hmm, I'll find you a wikipedia entry for <i>iocane powder</i> that might explain this better.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>And most importantly: WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK?</p></div><p>Well, this one is <b>easy</b>. When people are drunk they type very differently, and we all know that when people are drunk it has a lot to do with whom they want (or are willing) to fuck.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How does this work anyway ?
Does it account for the fact that I know my keyboard is wearing out and thus tend to hit the keys a bit stronger ?
Does that make me a man ? Um , no ... what makes you a man is , well , I 'll try to find you a wikipedia page for that.Does it account for the fact that I grew up typing , and do n't even need to look at the keyboard or screen while typing , because it " flows " ?
Does that make me a woman ? Um , no ... I 'll try to find you a different wikipedia page about that.Does it distinguish between typing on a laptop keyboard and a regular one ?
Since I 'm used to laptop keys , I tend to go softer on regular keyboards .
Does that make me a pedophile ? Um , no ... a pedophile would ask that question as an AC , unless of course , they were trying not to appear as a pedophile .
Hmm , I 'll find you a wikipedia entry for iocane powder that might explain this better.And most importantly : WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK ? Well , this one is easy .
When people are drunk they type very differently , and we all know that when people are drunk it has a lot to do with whom they want ( or are willing ) to fuck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does this work anyway?
Does it account for the fact that I know my keyboard is wearing out and thus tend to hit the keys a bit stronger?
Does that make me a man?Um, no ... what makes you a man is, well, I'll try to find you a wikipedia page for that.Does it account for the fact that I grew up typing, and don't even need to look at the keyboard or screen while typing, because it "flows"?
Does that make me a woman?Um, no ... I'll try to find you a different wikipedia page about that.Does it distinguish between typing on a laptop keyboard and a regular one?
Since I'm used to laptop keys, I tend to go softer on regular keyboards.
Does that make me a pedophile?Um, no ... a pedophile would ask that question as an AC, unless of course, they were trying not to appear as a pedophile.
Hmm, I'll find you a wikipedia entry for iocane powder that might explain this better.And most importantly: WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK?Well, this one is easy.
When people are drunk they type very differently, and we all know that when people are drunk it has a lot to do with whom they want (or are willing) to fuck.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609756</id>
	<title>Re:Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269527820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When will Slashdot learn?</p><p>Daily Mail is sensationalist bullshit from the UK.</p></div><p>"Learn"?  Slashdot is still posting stories from InfoWorld even after their stupid Windows 7 fiasco.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When will Slashdot learn ? Daily Mail is sensationalist bullshit from the UK. " Learn " ?
Slashdot is still posting stories from InfoWorld even after their stupid Windows 7 fiasco .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When will Slashdot learn?Daily Mail is sensationalist bullshit from the UK."Learn"?
Slashdot is still posting stories from InfoWorld even after their stupid Windows 7 fiasco.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610114</id>
	<title>Re:Daily Mail = Daily Fail</title>
	<author>Shrike82</author>
	<datestamp>1269529800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>You've clearly failed to understand the important role the Daily Mail plays in British society. Every page is full of stories about how immigrants are taking all the jobs, how your tax money pays for illegal immigrants to buy pornography, how your children are at risk every time they go online to check their e-mail, how beef/bread/wine/cheese/saturated fat/unsaturated fat will WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT kill you/reduce your risk of heart disease/prevent you from getting cancer.<br> <br>
The middle classes are happily distracted by the constant threat towards their very way of life, and which foods are killing them this week, that they forget about things like climate change, human rights violations around the world and the state of the global economy, which makes the government very happy indeed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've clearly failed to understand the important role the Daily Mail plays in British society .
Every page is full of stories about how immigrants are taking all the jobs , how your tax money pays for illegal immigrants to buy pornography , how your children are at risk every time they go online to check their e-mail , how beef/bread/wine/cheese/saturated fat/unsaturated fat will WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT kill you/reduce your risk of heart disease/prevent you from getting cancer .
The middle classes are happily distracted by the constant threat towards their very way of life , and which foods are killing them this week , that they forget about things like climate change , human rights violations around the world and the state of the global economy , which makes the government very happy indeed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've clearly failed to understand the important role the Daily Mail plays in British society.
Every page is full of stories about how immigrants are taking all the jobs, how your tax money pays for illegal immigrants to buy pornography, how your children are at risk every time they go online to check their e-mail, how beef/bread/wine/cheese/saturated fat/unsaturated fat will WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT kill you/reduce your risk of heart disease/prevent you from getting cancer.
The middle classes are happily distracted by the constant threat towards their very way of life, and which foods are killing them this week, that they forget about things like climate change, human rights violations around the world and the state of the global economy, which makes the government very happy indeed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31615386</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>MtHuurne</author>
	<datestamp>1269547080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The researchers do not claim they can detect pedophiles by the way they type. They claim they can get an accurate estimate of a person's age and several other characteristics. I have no idea whether they actually can, but for the sake of the argument let's assume their algorithm works at least somewhat reliably.</p><p>If the 40 year old man of the example creates an account on a site targeting children and discusses cartoons, there is no problem. If he indicates in his profile that he's a 12 year old girl instead of a 40 year old man, that is odd, but it does not have to be malicious. If he then, after lying about his identity, tries to arrange a real-life meeting with a child on the site, there is much cause for concern.</p><p>So if such a detection algorithm can tell site moderators which accounts to pay extra attention to, I don't see a problem with that. It should not be used as a trigger to have the police raid his home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The researchers do not claim they can detect pedophiles by the way they type .
They claim they can get an accurate estimate of a person 's age and several other characteristics .
I have no idea whether they actually can , but for the sake of the argument let 's assume their algorithm works at least somewhat reliably.If the 40 year old man of the example creates an account on a site targeting children and discusses cartoons , there is no problem .
If he indicates in his profile that he 's a 12 year old girl instead of a 40 year old man , that is odd , but it does not have to be malicious .
If he then , after lying about his identity , tries to arrange a real-life meeting with a child on the site , there is much cause for concern.So if such a detection algorithm can tell site moderators which accounts to pay extra attention to , I do n't see a problem with that .
It should not be used as a trigger to have the police raid his home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The researchers do not claim they can detect pedophiles by the way they type.
They claim they can get an accurate estimate of a person's age and several other characteristics.
I have no idea whether they actually can, but for the sake of the argument let's assume their algorithm works at least somewhat reliably.If the 40 year old man of the example creates an account on a site targeting children and discusses cartoons, there is no problem.
If he indicates in his profile that he's a 12 year old girl instead of a 40 year old man, that is odd, but it does not have to be malicious.
If he then, after lying about his identity, tries to arrange a real-life meeting with a child on the site, there is much cause for concern.So if such a detection algorithm can tell site moderators which accounts to pay extra attention to, I don't see a problem with that.
It should not be used as a trigger to have the police raid his home.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610138</id>
	<title>Re:Correlation, implication, causation etc.</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1269529920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I fully agree with your rant - and furthermore, this article is in the UK, where 17 is over the age of consent.</p><p>It's rather ridiculous - that story has been all over the media, and referenced in stories to do with child abuse, such as the recent demands to force Facebook to have a big red panic button. Not just the tabloids either - places like the BBC have been reporting the murder story, as if she was underage. Yet not one of these places has even noted that the age of consent is actually 16.</p><p>It wouldn't have mattered if she was 17, 18, or 50. The problem here was not how old he or she was, but instead the rather more serious point that he murdered her. (I think it's telling that a simple murder is not considered bad - no, we've got to report on someone being 17, even if that's not underage...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I fully agree with your rant - and furthermore , this article is in the UK , where 17 is over the age of consent.It 's rather ridiculous - that story has been all over the media , and referenced in stories to do with child abuse , such as the recent demands to force Facebook to have a big red panic button .
Not just the tabloids either - places like the BBC have been reporting the murder story , as if she was underage .
Yet not one of these places has even noted that the age of consent is actually 16.It would n't have mattered if she was 17 , 18 , or 50 .
The problem here was not how old he or she was , but instead the rather more serious point that he murdered her .
( I think it 's telling that a simple murder is not considered bad - no , we 've got to report on someone being 17 , even if that 's not underage... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I fully agree with your rant - and furthermore, this article is in the UK, where 17 is over the age of consent.It's rather ridiculous - that story has been all over the media, and referenced in stories to do with child abuse, such as the recent demands to force Facebook to have a big red panic button.
Not just the tabloids either - places like the BBC have been reporting the murder story, as if she was underage.
Yet not one of these places has even noted that the age of consent is actually 16.It wouldn't have mattered if she was 17, 18, or 50.
The problem here was not how old he or she was, but instead the rather more serious point that he murdered her.
(I think it's telling that a simple murder is not considered bad - no, we've got to report on someone being 17, even if that's not underage...)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609790</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610522</id>
	<title>Re:Left mousing?</title>
	<author>batquux</author>
	<datestamp>1269531780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am not left handed, but I use my left hand for gaming. If I use my right, it's over too quickly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not left handed , but I use my left hand for gaming .
If I use my right , it 's over too quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not left handed, but I use my left hand for gaming.
If I use my right, it's over too quickly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610052</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609912</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>fearlezz</author>
	<datestamp>1269528720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not gonna work. Most of my 40-year old collegues type like 12-year olds....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not gon na work .
Most of my 40-year old collegues type like 12-year olds... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not gonna work.
Most of my 40-year old collegues type like 12-year olds....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612694</id>
	<title>Re:Left mousing?</title>
	<author>wall0159</author>
	<datestamp>1269538680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was just thinking the same thing - it would be really crappy to be a person who actually only had one hand!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was just thinking the same thing - it would be really crappy to be a person who actually only had one hand !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was just thinking the same thing - it would be really crappy to be a person who actually only had one hand!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31613774</id>
	<title>Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269541980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the frack?</p><p>Oh noes...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the frack ? Oh noes.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the frack?Oh noes...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610704</id>
	<title>Re:I know why!</title>
	<author>pinkushun</author>
	<datestamp>1269532500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cue creepy background music and fx *fap fap fap fap* =)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cue creepy background music and fx * fap fap fap fap * = )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cue creepy background music and fx *fap fap fap fap* =)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609580</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611028</id>
	<title>Re:In the real world, we have Republicans.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is true. Just change Republican with Democrat and you will have more faux crisis and agenda making in it's place.</p><p>I can't stand cheerleaders for either side of the aisle. Both parties are robbing us of our freedoms and our money and cheerleaders for either side put their blinders on when their team is doing the screwing over.</p><p>I couldn't stand GWB for the reasons you listed (and more, including the Patriot Act, FISA abuses, Guantanamo, etc...)</p><p>I can't stand Obama for the needless bailout $1T money grab, the $1T needless HC "reform" that isn't helping anyone but big insurance, ramping up Afghanistan, not closing G Bay, etc...</p><p>Crooks that are robbing us all, yet a Dem or GOP will sit by and spew vitriol at the other side while their team is doing similar things.</p><p>Idiots.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is true .
Just change Republican with Democrat and you will have more faux crisis and agenda making in it 's place.I ca n't stand cheerleaders for either side of the aisle .
Both parties are robbing us of our freedoms and our money and cheerleaders for either side put their blinders on when their team is doing the screwing over.I could n't stand GWB for the reasons you listed ( and more , including the Patriot Act , FISA abuses , Guantanamo , etc... ) I ca n't stand Obama for the needless bailout $ 1T money grab , the $ 1T needless HC " reform " that is n't helping anyone but big insurance , ramping up Afghanistan , not closing G Bay , etc...Crooks that are robbing us all , yet a Dem or GOP will sit by and spew vitriol at the other side while their team is doing similar things.Idiots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is true.
Just change Republican with Democrat and you will have more faux crisis and agenda making in it's place.I can't stand cheerleaders for either side of the aisle.
Both parties are robbing us of our freedoms and our money and cheerleaders for either side put their blinders on when their team is doing the screwing over.I couldn't stand GWB for the reasons you listed (and more, including the Patriot Act, FISA abuses, Guantanamo, etc...)I can't stand Obama for the needless bailout $1T money grab, the $1T needless HC "reform" that isn't helping anyone but big insurance, ramping up Afghanistan, not closing G Bay, etc...Crooks that are robbing us all, yet a Dem or GOP will sit by and spew vitriol at the other side while their team is doing similar things.Idiots.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31616126</id>
	<title>Re:How It Does It</title>
	<author>DMUTPeregrine</author>
	<datestamp>1269549660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use a left-handed dvorak layout you insensitive clod!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use a left-handed dvorak layout you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use a left-handed dvorak layout you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609526</id>
	<title>Foolproof</title>
	<author>MyLongNickName</author>
	<datestamp>1269526800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am sure this is foolproof! Sign me up!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am sure this is foolproof !
Sign me up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am sure this is foolproof!
Sign me up!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610796</id>
	<title>And how many kids fall victim to this?</title>
	<author>MartinSchou</author>
	<datestamp>1269532800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously - how many kids fall victim to this kind of thing?</p><p>And how many kids are molested by their family, family friends and other trusted people they meet in real life.</p><p>How about we just simply abduct all kids from their families at birth and have them be raised by robots until they're 18? It'd definitely save more kids from being molested.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously - how many kids fall victim to this kind of thing ? And how many kids are molested by their family , family friends and other trusted people they meet in real life.How about we just simply abduct all kids from their families at birth and have them be raised by robots until they 're 18 ?
It 'd definitely save more kids from being molested .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously - how many kids fall victim to this kind of thing?And how many kids are molested by their family, family friends and other trusted people they meet in real life.How about we just simply abduct all kids from their families at birth and have them be raised by robots until they're 18?
It'd definitely save more kids from being molested.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609890</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>Jahava</author>
	<datestamp>1269528540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Of course, the problem is that a web site or chat forum has relatively little visibility of the user's typing pattern, so unless you force all forums to be accessed by special software that can monitor typing (AND you prevent the use of cut-and-paste so that you type in one window, then paste into the chat window, or detect such matters and flag THAT) then this won't be very useful at all.</p></div><p>It can certainly be implemented via a Javascript-hooked message box and periodic AJAX messages. Look at how Google implements chat in GMail or Wave. Hell, in Wave they can show you typing letter-by-letter. Granted there is some latency and blocking, but heuristics could certainly work to smooth that out. Data may be lossy, but it also may not be so lossy that nothing useful can be extracted.</p><p>There will always be ways around (Javascript blocking, copy/pasting, etc.), but your average Internet forum poser will probably not be aware enough to take those measures, especially if they result in user interface inconvenience.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , the problem is that a web site or chat forum has relatively little visibility of the user 's typing pattern , so unless you force all forums to be accessed by special software that can monitor typing ( AND you prevent the use of cut-and-paste so that you type in one window , then paste into the chat window , or detect such matters and flag THAT ) then this wo n't be very useful at all.It can certainly be implemented via a Javascript-hooked message box and periodic AJAX messages .
Look at how Google implements chat in GMail or Wave .
Hell , in Wave they can show you typing letter-by-letter .
Granted there is some latency and blocking , but heuristics could certainly work to smooth that out .
Data may be lossy , but it also may not be so lossy that nothing useful can be extracted.There will always be ways around ( Javascript blocking , copy/pasting , etc .
) , but your average Internet forum poser will probably not be aware enough to take those measures , especially if they result in user interface inconvenience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, the problem is that a web site or chat forum has relatively little visibility of the user's typing pattern, so unless you force all forums to be accessed by special software that can monitor typing (AND you prevent the use of cut-and-paste so that you type in one window, then paste into the chat window, or detect such matters and flag THAT) then this won't be very useful at all.It can certainly be implemented via a Javascript-hooked message box and periodic AJAX messages.
Look at how Google implements chat in GMail or Wave.
Hell, in Wave they can show you typing letter-by-letter.
Granted there is some latency and blocking, but heuristics could certainly work to smooth that out.
Data may be lossy, but it also may not be so lossy that nothing useful can be extracted.There will always be ways around (Javascript blocking, copy/pasting, etc.
), but your average Internet forum poser will probably not be aware enough to take those measures, especially if they result in user interface inconvenience.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610280</id>
	<title>Rythym?</title>
	<author>Aardpig</author>
	<datestamp>1269530460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What, like everyone has a unique 'wanking fingerprint'?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What , like everyone has a unique 'wanking fingerprint ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, like everyone has a unique 'wanking fingerprint'?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610302</id>
	<title>Re:Correlation, implication, causation etc.</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1269530640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The age of consent in the UK is 16 anyway, also the age when you can leave home.</p><p>Don't expect the Daily Mail to bother with the facts though, when they can do sensationalism instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The age of consent in the UK is 16 anyway , also the age when you can leave home.Do n't expect the Daily Mail to bother with the facts though , when they can do sensationalism instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The age of consent in the UK is 16 anyway, also the age when you can leave home.Don't expect the Daily Mail to bother with the facts though, when they can do sensationalism instead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609790</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609628</id>
	<title>WTF?!</title>
	<author>pak9rabid</author>
	<datestamp>1269527220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let me be the first to say W T F?  Yeah..I'm sure this wouldn't <i>ever</i> produce any false positives...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me be the first to say W T F ?
Yeah..I 'm sure this would n't ever produce any false positives.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me be the first to say W T F?
Yeah..I'm sure this wouldn't ever produce any false positives...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611798</id>
	<title>Re:Correlation, implication, causation etc.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269535980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh I think people have acknowledged that teenage girls of most any age are exceptionally attractive to any adult man (maybe less so for boys, I don't know). The problem is when, knowing the law, you continue pursue them. Pedophile seems harsh, but people with low self control are potentially dangerous. I don't want to get into a debate of "I was 18 she was 16", obviously this isn't black and white.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh I think people have acknowledged that teenage girls of most any age are exceptionally attractive to any adult man ( maybe less so for boys , I do n't know ) .
The problem is when , knowing the law , you continue pursue them .
Pedophile seems harsh , but people with low self control are potentially dangerous .
I do n't want to get into a debate of " I was 18 she was 16 " , obviously this is n't black and white .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh I think people have acknowledged that teenage girls of most any age are exceptionally attractive to any adult man (maybe less so for boys, I don't know).
The problem is when, knowing the law, you continue pursue them.
Pedophile seems harsh, but people with low self control are potentially dangerous.
I don't want to get into a debate of "I was 18 she was 16", obviously this isn't black and white.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609790</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610052</id>
	<title>Re:Left mousing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use the mouse left-handed at work, but right-handed at home for gaming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use the mouse left-handed at work , but right-handed at home for gaming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use the mouse left-handed at work, but right-handed at home for gaming.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31613668</id>
	<title>Re:Correlation, implication, causation etc.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269541680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I refuse to call someone a "pedophile" who is attracted to 17-year-old girls,</p></div></blockquote><p><i>"That is a very interesting remark," sneered a voice, softer than<br>the others but more evil. "I may have to report that."</i><br>-- Grishnack the Orc, The Two Towers</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I refuse to call someone a " pedophile " who is attracted to 17-year-old girls , " That is a very interesting remark , " sneered a voice , softer thanthe others but more evil .
" I may have to report that .
" -- Grishnack the Orc , The Two Towers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refuse to call someone a "pedophile" who is attracted to 17-year-old girls,"That is a very interesting remark," sneered a voice, softer thanthe others but more evil.
"I may have to report that.
"-- Grishnack the Orc, The Two Towers
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609790</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610418</id>
	<title>Re:Left mousing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269531240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, you should have posted that anonymously. Your boss might catch you while he's mousing left-handed too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , you should have posted that anonymously .
Your boss might catch you while he 's mousing left-handed too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, you should have posted that anonymously.
Your boss might catch you while he's mousing left-handed too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610052</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609670</id>
	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>bcmm</author>
	<datestamp>1269527400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://bash.org/?14207" title="bash.org">h|tler&gt; HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU TELL THAT I'M 13 BY LOOKING AT WHAT I'M WRITEING?</a> [bash.org] <br> <br>If you click, you get more question marks... Damn lameness filter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>h | tler &gt; HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU TELL THAT I 'M 13 BY LOOKING AT WHAT I 'M WRITEING ?
[ bash.org ] If you click , you get more question marks... Damn lameness filter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>h|tler&gt; HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU TELL THAT I'M 13 BY LOOKING AT WHAT I'M WRITEING?
[bash.org]  If you click, you get more question marks... Damn lameness filter.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609840</id>
	<title>Re:Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>MtHuurne</author>
	<datestamp>1269528360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not hard to monitor typing into an edit box using JavaScript. The script could compute some kind of typing signature and then send that to the server. Copy-pasting all text is a very odd way of typing and could be flagged.</p><p>I doubt such a detection algorithm would be accurate for all people, so they should not start auto-suspending accounts based on this. But it would help if a human moderator gets some hints about which accounts to pay closer attention to, since manually monitoring everything is not feasible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not hard to monitor typing into an edit box using JavaScript .
The script could compute some kind of typing signature and then send that to the server .
Copy-pasting all text is a very odd way of typing and could be flagged.I doubt such a detection algorithm would be accurate for all people , so they should not start auto-suspending accounts based on this .
But it would help if a human moderator gets some hints about which accounts to pay closer attention to , since manually monitoring everything is not feasible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not hard to monitor typing into an edit box using JavaScript.
The script could compute some kind of typing signature and then send that to the server.
Copy-pasting all text is a very odd way of typing and could be flagged.I doubt such a detection algorithm would be accurate for all people, so they should not start auto-suspending accounts based on this.
But it would help if a human moderator gets some hints about which accounts to pay closer attention to, since manually monitoring everything is not feasible.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31614448</id>
	<title>Re:I give it 6 months</title>
	<author>Magic5Ball</author>
	<datestamp>1269544020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I give it zero months since the way to defeat being identified by special keyboards with extra sensors attached to your fingers is to not use special keyboards with extra sensors attached to your fingers.</p><p>Also, the reported research results oppose much of what we know about keystroke biometrics which is used to authenticate users on many high security commercial and military systems on the assumption and previous findings that individual keystroke biometrics are unique to particular users, not to particular biological or demographic classes of users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I give it zero months since the way to defeat being identified by special keyboards with extra sensors attached to your fingers is to not use special keyboards with extra sensors attached to your fingers.Also , the reported research results oppose much of what we know about keystroke biometrics which is used to authenticate users on many high security commercial and military systems on the assumption and previous findings that individual keystroke biometrics are unique to particular users , not to particular biological or demographic classes of users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I give it zero months since the way to defeat being identified by special keyboards with extra sensors attached to your fingers is to not use special keyboards with extra sensors attached to your fingers.Also, the reported research results oppose much of what we know about keystroke biometrics which is used to authenticate users on many high security commercial and military systems on the assumption and previous findings that individual keystroke biometrics are unique to particular users, not to particular biological or demographic classes of users.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610428</id>
	<title>Faking being a child</title>
	<author>davidwr</author>
	<datestamp>1269531360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If author Bill Geerhart can <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Little-Billys-Letters-Incorrigible-Correspondence/dp/0061807281/ref=sr\_1\_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1269527605&amp;sr=8-1" title="amazon.com" rel="nofollow">fake being a child</a> [amazon.com] when he punks the rich and famous, surely someone can fake being a child to this software.</p><p>It's only a matter of time before there are "how to type like a fill-in-the-blank" HOWTOs out there on the interwebs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If author Bill Geerhart can fake being a child [ amazon.com ] when he punks the rich and famous , surely someone can fake being a child to this software.It 's only a matter of time before there are " how to type like a fill-in-the-blank " HOWTOs out there on the interwebs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If author Bill Geerhart can fake being a child [amazon.com] when he punks the rich and famous, surely someone can fake being a child to this software.It's only a matter of time before there are "how to type like a fill-in-the-blank" HOWTOs out there on the interwebs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609794</id>
	<title>Dvorak</title>
	<author>langelgjm</author>
	<datestamp>1269528060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Joke's on them - I use Dvorak!</p><p>Of course, by saying that and posting on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/., I've probably narrowed down my age, sex, and culture enough already. And I've identified my residence as parents' basement. Have they accounted for the mediating effects of Cheetos consumption on typing habits?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Joke 's on them - I use Dvorak ! Of course , by saying that and posting on /. , I 've probably narrowed down my age , sex , and culture enough already .
And I 've identified my residence as parents ' basement .
Have they accounted for the mediating effects of Cheetos consumption on typing habits ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Joke's on them - I use Dvorak!Of course, by saying that and posting on /., I've probably narrowed down my age, sex, and culture enough already.
And I've identified my residence as parents' basement.
Have they accounted for the mediating effects of Cheetos consumption on typing habits?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611362</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>absolutely, how does a/s/l or a/s/'c' for that matter determine one's status as a pedophile?<br>an adult in a kids forum could be checking on their child, monitoring topics etc.<br>i'm interested to see the technology in action, but attaching the concept to the hunt for pedophiles is pretty ridiculous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>absolutely , how does a/s/l or a/s/'c ' for that matter determine one 's status as a pedophile ? an adult in a kids forum could be checking on their child , monitoring topics etc.i 'm interested to see the technology in action , but attaching the concept to the hunt for pedophiles is pretty ridiculous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>absolutely, how does a/s/l or a/s/'c' for that matter determine one's status as a pedophile?an adult in a kids forum could be checking on their child, monitoring topics etc.i'm interested to see the technology in action, but attaching the concept to the hunt for pedophiles is pretty ridiculous.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31615014</id>
	<title>Re:Foolproof</title>
	<author>changa</author>
	<datestamp>1269545760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt><br>Now the tricky bit of getting them to run the software first.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now the tricky bit of getting them to run the software first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now the tricky bit of getting them to run the software first.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610942</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269533280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you may be slightly mistaken. This technology is designed to identify individuals by the way they type - or at least narrow it down. So, if you were given information about how a specific pedophile typed, you could find other matches of his characteristic typing.</p><p>this, of course, relies on being able to measure exactly how they're typing in a great deal of detail. It would not work with any existing system easily, though I could see some companies integrating it into their products to 'protect the children' or get even more targeted advertising. The only system it would work with by default is a completely closed and controlled system, like ATMS...which is the only serious example they suggest in the article. It wouldn't work for web banking, primarily because so many users autofill their passwords.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you may be slightly mistaken .
This technology is designed to identify individuals by the way they type - or at least narrow it down .
So , if you were given information about how a specific pedophile typed , you could find other matches of his characteristic typing.this , of course , relies on being able to measure exactly how they 're typing in a great deal of detail .
It would not work with any existing system easily , though I could see some companies integrating it into their products to 'protect the children ' or get even more targeted advertising .
The only system it would work with by default is a completely closed and controlled system , like ATMS...which is the only serious example they suggest in the article .
It would n't work for web banking , primarily because so many users autofill their passwords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you may be slightly mistaken.
This technology is designed to identify individuals by the way they type - or at least narrow it down.
So, if you were given information about how a specific pedophile typed, you could find other matches of his characteristic typing.this, of course, relies on being able to measure exactly how they're typing in a great deal of detail.
It would not work with any existing system easily, though I could see some companies integrating it into their products to 'protect the children' or get even more targeted advertising.
The only system it would work with by default is a completely closed and controlled system, like ATMS...which is the only serious example they suggest in the article.
It wouldn't work for web banking, primarily because so many users autofill their passwords.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610252</id>
	<title>Re:I could sort off see this working.</title>
	<author>ObsessiveMathsFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1269530340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh definitely, from a technological point of view its entirely feasible. After all genetically, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass\_Eye#Paedophilia\_special\_.282001.29" title="wikipedia.org">pedophiles have more in common with crabs than you or me</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh definitely , from a technological point of view its entirely feasible .
After all genetically , pedophiles have more in common with crabs than you or me [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh definitely, from a technological point of view its entirely feasible.
After all genetically, pedophiles have more in common with crabs than you or me [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609632</id>
	<title>I could sort off see this working.</title>
	<author>rindeee</author>
	<datestamp>1269527220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>From a purely technological point of view, I could see this working IF you had a profile pre-built.  That is to say, if you had established a baseline of a particular persons typing habits (tempo, speed, accuracy, common mistakes, pause patterns, etc.) then I think it would be relatively easy to identify/track them in the future.  I realize that this isn't really what the OP is talking about, but I think this is the closest to reality as one could get.  I've seen authentication tools that combine the password you've entered with the 'way' in which you enter it, doing essentially just that.  Anyway, determining a persons proclivities based solely on the way they type is, well, stupid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From a purely technological point of view , I could see this working IF you had a profile pre-built .
That is to say , if you had established a baseline of a particular persons typing habits ( tempo , speed , accuracy , common mistakes , pause patterns , etc .
) then I think it would be relatively easy to identify/track them in the future .
I realize that this is n't really what the OP is talking about , but I think this is the closest to reality as one could get .
I 've seen authentication tools that combine the password you 've entered with the 'way ' in which you enter it , doing essentially just that .
Anyway , determining a persons proclivities based solely on the way they type is , well , stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From a purely technological point of view, I could see this working IF you had a profile pre-built.
That is to say, if you had established a baseline of a particular persons typing habits (tempo, speed, accuracy, common mistakes, pause patterns, etc.
) then I think it would be relatively easy to identify/track them in the future.
I realize that this isn't really what the OP is talking about, but I think this is the closest to reality as one could get.
I've seen authentication tools that combine the password you've entered with the 'way' in which you enter it, doing essentially just that.
Anyway, determining a persons proclivities based solely on the way they type is, well, stupid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31618060</id>
	<title>Re:actually it will work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269513420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>or, huntin'...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>or , huntin'.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or, huntin'...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610514</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269531780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cock in one hand, keyboard in the other. You'll type slowly and make misakes... and they'll catch you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cock in one hand , keyboard in the other .
You 'll type slowly and make misakes... and they 'll catch you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cock in one hand, keyboard in the other.
You'll type slowly and make misakes... and they'll catch you!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610262</id>
	<title>How It Does It</title>
	<author>Hoi Polloi</author>
	<datestamp>1269530400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It watches to see if you are typing with just one hand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It watches to see if you are typing with just one hand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It watches to see if you are typing with just one hand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610600</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>thedonger</author>
	<datestamp>1269532140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK?</p></div><p>Clearly you are trying to communicate with an audience unfamiliar with lower case letters. My guess? Young boys. You sicken me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK ? Clearly you are trying to communicate with an audience unfamiliar with lower case letters .
My guess ?
Young boys .
You sicken me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WHAT DOES MY TYPING SPEED HAVE TO DO WITH WHO I WANT TO FUCK?Clearly you are trying to communicate with an audience unfamiliar with lower case letters.
My guess?
Young boys.
You sicken me.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610100</id>
	<title>Spoiler, I read TFA...</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1269529740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently they had to hook up sensors to the typists&rsquo; fingers. Now we just need to have all the paedophiles register so that we can make sure they&rsquo;re wearing their typing gloves when they go online.</p><p>(Why they couldn&rsquo;t just use a regular keylogger is beyond me, but the fact that they didn&rsquo;t implies that for some reason a simple keylogger wouldn&rsquo;t work. It would certainly have been easier than wiring up the typists and developing electronics to monitor the sensors.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently they had to hook up sensors to the typists    fingers .
Now we just need to have all the paedophiles register so that we can make sure they    re wearing their typing gloves when they go online .
( Why they couldn    t just use a regular keylogger is beyond me , but the fact that they didn    t implies that for some reason a simple keylogger wouldn    t work .
It would certainly have been easier than wiring up the typists and developing electronics to monitor the sensors .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently they had to hook up sensors to the typists’ fingers.
Now we just need to have all the paedophiles register so that we can make sure they’re wearing their typing gloves when they go online.
(Why they couldn’t just use a regular keylogger is beyond me, but the fact that they didn’t implies that for some reason a simple keylogger wouldn’t work.
It would certainly have been easier than wiring up the typists and developing electronics to monitor the sensors.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609926</id>
	<title>better chance</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1269528720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the research would get better results if they concentrated on using the web-cams to see who is in front of the computer.  Shouldn't be too hard, they do this at US schools already, just supply everyone with a 'free' laptop and disallow anyone from using their own equipment on the web and make sure that the camera on the laptop can be used any time at all to view the laptop user.</p><p>Then just look for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVcyNANK5cY" title="youtube.com">clues</a> [youtube.com] to figure out who is a pedophile.  Job done.</p><p>Can I have the grant money to do this now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the research would get better results if they concentrated on using the web-cams to see who is in front of the computer .
Should n't be too hard , they do this at US schools already , just supply everyone with a 'free ' laptop and disallow anyone from using their own equipment on the web and make sure that the camera on the laptop can be used any time at all to view the laptop user.Then just look for clues [ youtube.com ] to figure out who is a pedophile .
Job done.Can I have the grant money to do this now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the research would get better results if they concentrated on using the web-cams to see who is in front of the computer.
Shouldn't be too hard, they do this at US schools already, just supply everyone with a 'free' laptop and disallow anyone from using their own equipment on the web and make sure that the camera on the laptop can be used any time at all to view the laptop user.Then just look for clues [youtube.com] to figure out who is a pedophile.
Job done.Can I have the grant money to do this now?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610068</id>
	<title>Keystrokes as a biometric</title>
	<author>AlastairLynn</author>
	<datestamp>1269529560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's the paper which may have started this research: <a href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/66795/01/thesis.pdf" title="soton.ac.uk" rel="nofollow">http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/66795/01/thesis.pdf</a> [soton.ac.uk]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's the paper which may have started this research : http : //eprints.soton.ac.uk/66795/01/thesis.pdf [ soton.ac.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's the paper which may have started this research: http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/66795/01/thesis.pdf [soton.ac.uk]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611948</id>
	<title>Catholic typists</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1269536400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You just need to look for any Catholic connotation in a post.  Any Linux or Mac zealot must be a priestly paedophile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You just need to look for any Catholic connotation in a post .
Any Linux or Mac zealot must be a priestly paedophile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You just need to look for any Catholic connotation in a post.
Any Linux or Mac zealot must be a priestly paedophile.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31613888</id>
	<title>Re:In the real world, we have Republicans.</title>
	<author>GasparGMSwordsman</author>
	<datestamp>1269542220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some items of note.<br> <br>

Lieberman is an independent not a Democrat.  He left the Democratic party after the 2004 elections.<br> <br>

Most people in the Executive branch are career employees.  They don't suddenly switch when a new President gets elected.  According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, the Federal Government has a yearly turnover rate of about 7.1\%.  Meaning that of the approximate 2,000,000 current Federal employees, about 1.86 million served during the previous administration.  Other studies show that the majority of turnover is to lower positions and due to being promoted to higher positions.<br> <br>

In short, most of the people rejecting those FIOS petitions now, are the same people who were rejecting FIOS petitions four years ago.  Many of those same people were probably hired during the Clinton administration for that matter, perhaps even during the Bush (Sr.) administration or even before that.<br> <br>

Also in an irony of ironies, your post got modded interesting instead of troll.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some items of note .
Lieberman is an independent not a Democrat .
He left the Democratic party after the 2004 elections .
Most people in the Executive branch are career employees .
They do n't suddenly switch when a new President gets elected .
According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics , the Federal Government has a yearly turnover rate of about 7.1 \ % .
Meaning that of the approximate 2,000,000 current Federal employees , about 1.86 million served during the previous administration .
Other studies show that the majority of turnover is to lower positions and due to being promoted to higher positions .
In short , most of the people rejecting those FIOS petitions now , are the same people who were rejecting FIOS petitions four years ago .
Many of those same people were probably hired during the Clinton administration for that matter , perhaps even during the Bush ( Sr. ) administration or even before that .
Also in an irony of ironies , your post got modded interesting instead of troll .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some items of note.
Lieberman is an independent not a Democrat.
He left the Democratic party after the 2004 elections.
Most people in the Executive branch are career employees.
They don't suddenly switch when a new President gets elected.
According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, the Federal Government has a yearly turnover rate of about 7.1\%.
Meaning that of the approximate 2,000,000 current Federal employees, about 1.86 million served during the previous administration.
Other studies show that the majority of turnover is to lower positions and due to being promoted to higher positions.
In short, most of the people rejecting those FIOS petitions now, are the same people who were rejecting FIOS petitions four years ago.
Many of those same people were probably hired during the Clinton administration for that matter, perhaps even during the Bush (Sr.) administration or even before that.
Also in an irony of ironies, your post got modded interesting instead of troll.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610290</id>
	<title>Very misleading article</title>
	<author>GrumpySteen</author>
	<datestamp>1269530520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The research mentioned in the article is about verifying identity by comparing a person's keystroke timing to a previously acquired  of keystroke timing.  Nothing the professor's research makes any claim of being able to determine age, gender, culture or anything else from an unknown person's typing.</p><p>At best, you could compare a person's typing to a database of typing patterns and see if you find a match.  To identify pervs this way would require that you track down all the pervs, give them typing tests, ensure that they type like they normally do, store the typing profiles in a database, ensure that all programs record and send the timing of typists keystrokes, ensure that the pervs all type the same way they did on the typing test and compare the resulting keystroke timing profile.</p><p>But hey... how could any of that possibly fail to work?</p><p>Also, the professor's list of published papers can be found here.  There is some interesting stuff there<br><a href="http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~maxion/pubs/list.html" title="cmu.edu" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~maxion/pubs/list.html</a> [cmu.edu]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The research mentioned in the article is about verifying identity by comparing a person 's keystroke timing to a previously acquired of keystroke timing .
Nothing the professor 's research makes any claim of being able to determine age , gender , culture or anything else from an unknown person 's typing.At best , you could compare a person 's typing to a database of typing patterns and see if you find a match .
To identify pervs this way would require that you track down all the pervs , give them typing tests , ensure that they type like they normally do , store the typing profiles in a database , ensure that all programs record and send the timing of typists keystrokes , ensure that the pervs all type the same way they did on the typing test and compare the resulting keystroke timing profile.But hey... how could any of that possibly fail to work ? Also , the professor 's list of published papers can be found here .
There is some interesting stuff therehttp : //www.cs.cmu.edu/ ~ maxion/pubs/list.html [ cmu.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The research mentioned in the article is about verifying identity by comparing a person's keystroke timing to a previously acquired  of keystroke timing.
Nothing the professor's research makes any claim of being able to determine age, gender, culture or anything else from an unknown person's typing.At best, you could compare a person's typing to a database of typing patterns and see if you find a match.
To identify pervs this way would require that you track down all the pervs, give them typing tests, ensure that they type like they normally do, store the typing profiles in a database, ensure that all programs record and send the timing of typists keystrokes, ensure that the pervs all type the same way they did on the typing test and compare the resulting keystroke timing profile.But hey... how could any of that possibly fail to work?Also, the professor's list of published papers can be found here.
There is some interesting stuff therehttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~maxion/pubs/list.html [cmu.edu]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31612232</id>
	<title>Re:ffs</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269537240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pederast == child molester.</p><p>Pedant Ass == slashdot molester.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pederast = = child molester.Pedant Ass = = slashdot molester .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pederast == child molester.Pedant Ass == slashdot molester.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609638</id>
	<title>Nothing new</title>
	<author>thijsh</author>
	<datestamp>1269527220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thats nothing, they can already measure it by the way you walk for years now... Have you ever heard of a pedometer?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats nothing , they can already measure it by the way you walk for years now... Have you ever heard of a pedometer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats nothing, they can already measure it by the way you walk for years now... Have you ever heard of a pedometer?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610720</id>
	<title>I didn't realise it was April already</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is an April 1st story or a huge waste of money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is an April 1st story or a huge waste of money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is an April 1st story or a huge waste of money.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610768</id>
	<title>Limits on interpolation</title>
	<author>geek2k5</author>
	<datestamp>1269532740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Identifying a person's base background on the basis of only ten keystrokes seems to be stretching things.  Though the article does mention all the additional information collected in order to make the determination.</p><p>The article does NOT mention what the people were typing.  If they were doing a standard typing test, then you might be able to determine gender, culture and age.  But if they were doing an online conversation, then you would have to factor in how well the person converts thoughts to words and words to typed text.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Identifying a person 's base background on the basis of only ten keystrokes seems to be stretching things .
Though the article does mention all the additional information collected in order to make the determination.The article does NOT mention what the people were typing .
If they were doing a standard typing test , then you might be able to determine gender , culture and age .
But if they were doing an online conversation , then you would have to factor in how well the person converts thoughts to words and words to typed text .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Identifying a person's base background on the basis of only ten keystrokes seems to be stretching things.
Though the article does mention all the additional information collected in order to make the determination.The article does NOT mention what the people were typing.
If they were doing a standard typing test, then you might be able to determine gender, culture and age.
But if they were doing an online conversation, then you would have to factor in how well the person converts thoughts to words and words to typed text.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31610014</id>
	<title>So... where is the demo?</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1269529260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anybody have a link so I can try it out? I wanna see how it identifies me.</p><p>What... no! Of course I&rsquo;m not a pedophile...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anybody have a link so I can try it out ?
I wan na see how it identifies me.What... no ! Of course I    m not a pedophile.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anybody have a link so I can try it out?
I wanna see how it identifies me.What... no! Of course I’m not a pedophile...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611814</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it's because they type with one hand....</p><p>*thinks*</p><p>EEEWWWW!!!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's because they type with one hand.... * thinks * EEEWWWW ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's because they type with one hand....*thinks*EEEWWWW!!!!!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609566</id>
	<title>Typical /. summary</title>
	<author>wowbagger</author>
	<datestamp>1269526980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Typical<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. summary - conflating the idea of "we can tell how old you are from your typing" with "we can tell if you are Wicked Uncle Ernie by your typing."</p><p>The idea of this would be that if you can tell that somebody is a 40 year old man, and they are on a forum saying they are a 12 year old girl, you can flag that as being suspicious.</p><p>Of course, the problem is that a web site or chat forum has relatively little visibility of the user's typing pattern, so unless you force all forums to be accessed by special software that can monitor typing (AND you prevent the use of cut-and-paste so that you type in one window, then paste into the chat window, or detect such matters and flag THAT) then this won't be very useful at all.</p><p>Of course, making THAT statement in the summary would be <i>hard</i>, and would require actually <b>thinking</b> about the story.</p><p>As I said, typical<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. summary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Typical / .
summary - conflating the idea of " we can tell how old you are from your typing " with " we can tell if you are Wicked Uncle Ernie by your typing .
" The idea of this would be that if you can tell that somebody is a 40 year old man , and they are on a forum saying they are a 12 year old girl , you can flag that as being suspicious.Of course , the problem is that a web site or chat forum has relatively little visibility of the user 's typing pattern , so unless you force all forums to be accessed by special software that can monitor typing ( AND you prevent the use of cut-and-paste so that you type in one window , then paste into the chat window , or detect such matters and flag THAT ) then this wo n't be very useful at all.Of course , making THAT statement in the summary would be hard , and would require actually thinking about the story.As I said , typical / .
summary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Typical /.
summary - conflating the idea of "we can tell how old you are from your typing" with "we can tell if you are Wicked Uncle Ernie by your typing.
"The idea of this would be that if you can tell that somebody is a 40 year old man, and they are on a forum saying they are a 12 year old girl, you can flag that as being suspicious.Of course, the problem is that a web site or chat forum has relatively little visibility of the user's typing pattern, so unless you force all forums to be accessed by special software that can monitor typing (AND you prevent the use of cut-and-paste so that you type in one window, then paste into the chat window, or detect such matters and flag THAT) then this won't be very useful at all.Of course, making THAT statement in the summary would be hard, and would require actually thinking about the story.As I said, typical /.
summary.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609790</id>
	<title>Correlation, implication, causation etc.</title>
	<author>Rah'Dick</author>
	<datestamp>1269528000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They say they can identify a single person by a typing profile that they've previously generated, but you certainly cannot deduct from a typing profile that any given person is a pedophile! I agree with the author's comment.</p><p>[rant]On a side note, TFA has pictures of a murderer and a 17 y/o girl next to each other. I refuse to call someone a "pedophile" who is attracted to 17-year-old girls, because becoming an adult is not a matter of some age number increasing by one digit. 17-year-olds are certainly not KIDS! I'm sick of the misuse of the word "pedophile". What they actually mean is "ephebophile", but since that one is - to some degree - accepted by society, they cannot polarize people enough to enact more stupid laws. [/rant]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They say they can identify a single person by a typing profile that they 've previously generated , but you certainly can not deduct from a typing profile that any given person is a pedophile !
I agree with the author 's comment .
[ rant ] On a side note , TFA has pictures of a murderer and a 17 y/o girl next to each other .
I refuse to call someone a " pedophile " who is attracted to 17-year-old girls , because becoming an adult is not a matter of some age number increasing by one digit .
17-year-olds are certainly not KIDS !
I 'm sick of the misuse of the word " pedophile " .
What they actually mean is " ephebophile " , but since that one is - to some degree - accepted by society , they can not polarize people enough to enact more stupid laws .
[ /rant ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They say they can identify a single person by a typing profile that they've previously generated, but you certainly cannot deduct from a typing profile that any given person is a pedophile!
I agree with the author's comment.
[rant]On a side note, TFA has pictures of a murderer and a 17 y/o girl next to each other.
I refuse to call someone a "pedophile" who is attracted to 17-year-old girls, because becoming an adult is not a matter of some age number increasing by one digit.
17-year-olds are certainly not KIDS!
I'm sick of the misuse of the word "pedophile".
What they actually mean is "ephebophile", but since that one is - to some degree - accepted by society, they cannot polarize people enough to enact more stupid laws.
[/rant]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31613420</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269540960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Keyboard buffer for sale.<br>Decide which age your typing habit will seem.<br>Decide which sex and height you want to project.<br>Pedophiles will get 30\% off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Keyboard buffer for sale.Decide which age your typing habit will seem.Decide which sex and height you want to project.Pedophiles will get 30 \ % off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keyboard buffer for sale.Decide which age your typing habit will seem.Decide which sex and height you want to project.Pedophiles will get 30\% off.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611972</id>
	<title>Relax...</title>
	<author>MousePotato</author>
	<datestamp>1269536460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm thinking that those sick fucks don't really use the keyboard... their hands are probably busy doing 'other things'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm thinking that those sick fucks do n't really use the keyboard... their hands are probably busy doing 'other things'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm thinking that those sick fucks don't really use the keyboard... their hands are probably busy doing 'other things'</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31611838</id>
	<title>Re:In the real world, we have Republicans.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're right. But in Britain "left wing" is generally considered to be a good thing, and hence something that Labour are not. To get elected in 1997, Labour pretended to be "third way" rather than "left wing" (an old trick) and that description of them has stuck in the popular mindset. British politics are totally fucked up.</p><p>If you want an example to illustrate that lefties are not always super nice people, you should pick on undeniably left-wing tyrants like Lenin, Gadaffi or Castro. If you pick lefties like Hitler, Mussolini or Tony Blair, people will (incorrectly) tell you that they were "right wing" so your argument is invalid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right .
But in Britain " left wing " is generally considered to be a good thing , and hence something that Labour are not .
To get elected in 1997 , Labour pretended to be " third way " rather than " left wing " ( an old trick ) and that description of them has stuck in the popular mindset .
British politics are totally fucked up.If you want an example to illustrate that lefties are not always super nice people , you should pick on undeniably left-wing tyrants like Lenin , Gadaffi or Castro .
If you pick lefties like Hitler , Mussolini or Tony Blair , people will ( incorrectly ) tell you that they were " right wing " so your argument is invalid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right.
But in Britain "left wing" is generally considered to be a good thing, and hence something that Labour are not.
To get elected in 1997, Labour pretended to be "third way" rather than "left wing" (an old trick) and that description of them has stuck in the popular mindset.
British politics are totally fucked up.If you want an example to illustrate that lefties are not always super nice people, you should pick on undeniably left-wing tyrants like Lenin, Gadaffi or Castro.
If you pick lefties like Hitler, Mussolini or Tony Blair, people will (incorrectly) tell you that they were "right wing" so your argument is invalid.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609576</id>
	<title>Wait... what?</title>
	<author>Kell Bengal</author>
	<datestamp>1269527040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It boggles my mind that they even consider this a legitimate avenue of inquiry... I mean, really.  How many opportunities do kiddy-fiddlers present for you to analyse their keystrokes, but not say... their IP?  Sure, it allows you to tie an online interaction to a particular user, but if you have that kind of hook into their system odds are you know more than enough to do that already.<br> <br>
Oh wait, you mean there are applications where you want to tie users to content generically on the internet, but you think it's too invasive to make everyone agree to it simply so you can sell them more soda or send them to prison for their political ideas?  That's OK - we'll just say it's targeting pedophiles.<br> <br>That always works.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It boggles my mind that they even consider this a legitimate avenue of inquiry... I mean , really .
How many opportunities do kiddy-fiddlers present for you to analyse their keystrokes , but not say... their IP ?
Sure , it allows you to tie an online interaction to a particular user , but if you have that kind of hook into their system odds are you know more than enough to do that already .
Oh wait , you mean there are applications where you want to tie users to content generically on the internet , but you think it 's too invasive to make everyone agree to it simply so you can sell them more soda or send them to prison for their political ideas ?
That 's OK - we 'll just say it 's targeting pedophiles .
That always works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It boggles my mind that they even consider this a legitimate avenue of inquiry... I mean, really.
How many opportunities do kiddy-fiddlers present for you to analyse their keystrokes, but not say... their IP?
Sure, it allows you to tie an online interaction to a particular user, but if you have that kind of hook into their system odds are you know more than enough to do that already.
Oh wait, you mean there are applications where you want to tie users to content generically on the internet, but you think it's too invasive to make everyone agree to it simply so you can sell them more soda or send them to prison for their political ideas?
That's OK - we'll just say it's targeting pedophiles.
That always works.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31613042</id>
	<title>Re:oh no</title>
	<author>slashdottedjoe</author>
	<datestamp>1269539700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder about latency on the internet, too. It is not like from a server they know exact when you hit a key. They only know when it comes into their system.</p><p>That said, a piece of software could easily add specific characteristics to throw them off. For example, if you buffer the keystrokes you can send sentences at a quicker pace or alter the delay (right hand keys) to make it look like you are disabled.</p><p>What happens when I start hunting and pecking with two fingers? This is only useful, until people get smart.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder about latency on the internet , too .
It is not like from a server they know exact when you hit a key .
They only know when it comes into their system.That said , a piece of software could easily add specific characteristics to throw them off .
For example , if you buffer the keystrokes you can send sentences at a quicker pace or alter the delay ( right hand keys ) to make it look like you are disabled.What happens when I start hunting and pecking with two fingers ?
This is only useful , until people get smart .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder about latency on the internet, too.
It is not like from a server they know exact when you hit a key.
They only know when it comes into their system.That said, a piece of software could easily add specific characteristics to throw them off.
For example, if you buffer the keystrokes you can send sentences at a quicker pace or alter the delay (right hand keys) to make it look like you are disabled.What happens when I start hunting and pecking with two fingers?
This is only useful, until people get smart.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1240200.31609918</id>
	<title>ffs</title>
	<author>Therilith</author>
	<datestamp>1269528720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pedophile != child molester</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pedophile ! = child molester</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pedophile != child molester</sentencetext>
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