<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_19_139203</id>
	<title>UMG To Price New CDs Under $10</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1269008220000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>marmoset writes <i>"Perhaps a decade late, Universal Music Group has decided to <a href="http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content\_display/industry/e3i56ed42b9a46f8554e2671afccecca01b">try out sub-$10 CD pricing</a> in the US. 'Beginning in the second quarter and continuing through most of the year, the company's Velocity program will test lower CD prices. Single CDs will have the suggested list prices of $10, $9, $8, $7 and $6.'"</i> CD retailers are not convinced the price cuts will work out. For one thing it depends on whether other major labels follow suit, but the article notes that "executives at the other majors were nervous about the UMG move" and "privately, some appeared annoyed."</htmltext>
<tokenext>marmoset writes " Perhaps a decade late , Universal Music Group has decided to try out sub- $ 10 CD pricing in the US .
'Beginning in the second quarter and continuing through most of the year , the company 's Velocity program will test lower CD prices .
Single CDs will have the suggested list prices of $ 10 , $ 9 , $ 8 , $ 7 and $ 6 .
' " CD retailers are not convinced the price cuts will work out .
For one thing it depends on whether other major labels follow suit , but the article notes that " executives at the other majors were nervous about the UMG move " and " privately , some appeared annoyed .
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<sentencetext>marmoset writes "Perhaps a decade late, Universal Music Group has decided to try out sub-$10 CD pricing in the US.
'Beginning in the second quarter and continuing through most of the year, the company's Velocity program will test lower CD prices.
Single CDs will have the suggested list prices of $10, $9, $8, $7 and $6.
'" CD retailers are not convinced the price cuts will work out.
For one thing it depends on whether other major labels follow suit, but the article notes that "executives at the other majors were nervous about the UMG move" and "privately, some appeared annoyed.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31547404</id>
	<title>9 out of 10 CD retailers said...</title>
	<author>rnturn</author>
	<datestamp>1269021300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... "We don't expect to make any more money on CDs than we did before they became affordable because we've slashed the floor space devoted to CDs to the bone and nobody goes into that part of the store anymore.  At least those that're even able to find where we've hidden it.  Besides, we already make a lot more on crappy over-priced, replacement earpods that break in a couple of months than we expect to make on CDs.  So we'll be devoting a lot more space to <i>those</i> products than we will for CDs."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... " We do n't expect to make any more money on CDs than we did before they became affordable because we 've slashed the floor space devoted to CDs to the bone and nobody goes into that part of the store anymore .
At least those that 're even able to find where we 've hidden it .
Besides , we already make a lot more on crappy over-priced , replacement earpods that break in a couple of months than we expect to make on CDs .
So we 'll be devoting a lot more space to those products than we will for CDs .
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<sentencetext>... "We don't expect to make any more money on CDs than we did before they became affordable because we've slashed the floor space devoted to CDs to the bone and nobody goes into that part of the store anymore.
At least those that're even able to find where we've hidden it.
Besides, we already make a lot more on crappy over-priced, replacement earpods that break in a couple of months than we expect to make on CDs.
So we'll be devoting a lot more space to those products than we will for CDs.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538138</id>
	<title>Re:The business model isn't completely dead with t</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1269015240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It tells nothing about the efficiencies in the music marketplace. It tells a lot about music labels contracts, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It tells nothing about the efficiencies in the music marketplace .
It tells a lot about music labels contracts , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It tells nothing about the efficiencies in the music marketplace.
It tells a lot about music labels contracts, though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537426</id>
	<title>Re:Shocking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dammit, I was trying to moderate this comment as funny, but it registered as overrated. Posting to undo moderation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dammit , I was trying to moderate this comment as funny , but it registered as overrated .
Posting to undo moderation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dammit, I was trying to moderate this comment as funny, but it registered as overrated.
Posting to undo moderation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536930</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1269012300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I remember CDs. They made such pretty coffee coasters after I burned all their music to my MP3 player.</p></div><p>I believe the correct verb you're looking for is 'ripped.'  But before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.  You have, as a physical object, evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media.  I do buy $5 albums on Amazon MP3 but I feel almost like I somehow receive less rights or a watered down licensing of that album as opposed to if I had purchased the album.  If you find this concept quaint then <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music\_blog/2009/06/vinyl-sales-to-hit-another-high-point-in-2009.html" title="latimes.com">why are vinyl sales slowly rising</a> [latimes.com]?  <br> <br>

My favorite form of purchasing these albums is vinyl + lossless digital download.  A lot of the indie record labels are adopting this method and you pay a $1 or $2 premium on the CD or vinyl album in order to have the music now with the physical artifact shipped to you later.  I purchased my Cloud Cult albums in this manner and also She and Him.  Instant gratification and I don't even have to take the album out of its wrapper.  Don't expect the major labels or even Amazon to warm up to this idea though<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it's far too empowering for the consumer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember CDs .
They made such pretty coffee coasters after I burned all their music to my MP3 player.I believe the correct verb you 're looking for is 'ripped .
' But before you go on about how 'quaint ' CDs are , keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical .
You have , as a physical object , evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media .
I do buy $ 5 albums on Amazon MP3 but I feel almost like I somehow receive less rights or a watered down licensing of that album as opposed to if I had purchased the album .
If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising [ latimes.com ] ?
My favorite form of purchasing these albums is vinyl + lossless digital download .
A lot of the indie record labels are adopting this method and you pay a $ 1 or $ 2 premium on the CD or vinyl album in order to have the music now with the physical artifact shipped to you later .
I purchased my Cloud Cult albums in this manner and also She and Him .
Instant gratification and I do n't even have to take the album out of its wrapper .
Do n't expect the major labels or even Amazon to warm up to this idea though ... it 's far too empowering for the consumer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember CDs.
They made such pretty coffee coasters after I burned all their music to my MP3 player.I believe the correct verb you're looking for is 'ripped.
'  But before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.
You have, as a physical object, evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media.
I do buy $5 albums on Amazon MP3 but I feel almost like I somehow receive less rights or a watered down licensing of that album as opposed to if I had purchased the album.
If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising [latimes.com]?
My favorite form of purchasing these albums is vinyl + lossless digital download.
A lot of the indie record labels are adopting this method and you pay a $1 or $2 premium on the CD or vinyl album in order to have the music now with the physical artifact shipped to you later.
I purchased my Cloud Cult albums in this manner and also She and Him.
Instant gratification and I don't even have to take the album out of its wrapper.
Don't expect the major labels or even Amazon to warm up to this idea though ... it's far too empowering for the consumer.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539756</id>
	<title>These are actually the normal prices</title>
	<author>Sloppy</author>
	<datestamp>1269020040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go see a band at a nightclub.  It's not unusual for locals at the "CD release party" to give the CD away for free (well, subsidized by their potion of the door charge).  Selling CDs for $5 or $10 is most typical.  I've seen as high as $12 by touring bands, but they have fuel expenses and that's the top end of the spectrum.</p><p>Sounds like UMG is just adjusting to what's normal and expected.  The market already told 'em, years ago, that an average of under $10 is the right price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go see a band at a nightclub .
It 's not unusual for locals at the " CD release party " to give the CD away for free ( well , subsidized by their potion of the door charge ) .
Selling CDs for $ 5 or $ 10 is most typical .
I 've seen as high as $ 12 by touring bands , but they have fuel expenses and that 's the top end of the spectrum.Sounds like UMG is just adjusting to what 's normal and expected .
The market already told 'em , years ago , that an average of under $ 10 is the right price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go see a band at a nightclub.
It's not unusual for locals at the "CD release party" to give the CD away for free (well, subsidized by their potion of the door charge).
Selling CDs for $5 or $10 is most typical.
I've seen as high as $12 by touring bands, but they have fuel expenses and that's the top end of the spectrum.Sounds like UMG is just adjusting to what's normal and expected.
The market already told 'em, years ago, that an average of under $10 is the right price.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543226</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268990880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>O RLY? Obligatory XKCD: <a href="http://xkcd.com/691/" title="xkcd.com">http://xkcd.com/691/</a> [xkcd.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>O RLY ?
Obligatory XKCD : http : //xkcd.com/691/ [ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>O RLY?
Obligatory XKCD: http://xkcd.com/691/ [xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537294</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>Jurily</author>
	<datestamp>1269013140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People still buy CD's?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People still buy CD 's ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People still buy CD's?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537660</id>
	<title>Re:Shocking</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1269014100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not if you refuse to pay the artists!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not if you refuse to pay the artists !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not if you refuse to pay the artists!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536724</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31542396</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269030480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't have a hard copy, you can't put it on display, show it off, identify yourself with it. Let the world know that you find that music cool, and feel cool that the world knows!</p><p>Oh, to be 13 again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't have a hard copy , you ca n't put it on display , show it off , identify yourself with it .
Let the world know that you find that music cool , and feel cool that the world knows ! Oh , to be 13 again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't have a hard copy, you can't put it on display, show it off, identify yourself with it.
Let the world know that you find that music cool, and feel cool that the world knows!Oh, to be 13 again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538822</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269017040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When was the last time you tried to carry around 500 hours worth of music around in your back pocket?</htmltext>
<tokenext>When was the last time you tried to carry around 500 hours worth of music around in your back pocket ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When was the last time you tried to carry around 500 hours worth of music around in your back pocket?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537536</id>
	<title>Re:Shocking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can remember the first CD's I bought in the early 1980s.  The price was much higher than vinyl, but there were a number of advantages:  easier playback, no wear to CDs, etc.  The other "comfort" was that I was paying higher prices for CD's because I was an early adopter of the format.  As the format became more mainstream, the price would drop.  Shyaaa, right...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can remember the first CD 's I bought in the early 1980s .
The price was much higher than vinyl , but there were a number of advantages : easier playback , no wear to CDs , etc .
The other " comfort " was that I was paying higher prices for CD 's because I was an early adopter of the format .
As the format became more mainstream , the price would drop .
Shyaaa , right.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can remember the first CD's I bought in the early 1980s.
The price was much higher than vinyl, but there were a number of advantages:  easier playback, no wear to CDs, etc.
The other "comfort" was that I was paying higher prices for CD's because I was an early adopter of the format.
As the format became more mainstream, the price would drop.
Shyaaa, right...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537238</id>
	<title>price fixing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the other music groups complain or retaliate in any way, doesn't that constitute illegal price fixing?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the other music groups complain or retaliate in any way , does n't that constitute illegal price fixing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the other music groups complain or retaliate in any way, doesn't that constitute illegal price fixing?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536716</id>
	<title>I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1269011880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the article notes that "executives at the other majors were nervous about the UMG move" and "privately, some appeared annoyed."</p></div><p>You don't say.  You mean to tell me that they might have to price their music competitively?  That they might have to take a pay cut in order to compete in the market?  That their '<a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/01/15/1329200/Antitrust-Case-Against-RIAA-Reinstated" title="slashdot.org">silent agreement</a> [slashdot.org]' of what all music should cost among the biggest labels is no more?  <br> <br>

Music record contracts really annoy me in this respect.  They are nothing but middlemen when it comes to publishing music.  I understand their role in promoting and paying upfront cash for studio time but their role as publishers is leech at best.  <br> <br>

If bands had the ability to pit manufacturers against each other in publishing their CDs and albums (and also if the band could decide what percentage they needed from sales) then we would see prices <i>dramatically</i> plummet.  Look at CDBaby and think how inexpensive it could get if that kind of market was where we bought all our CDs.  And in a capitalistic world, that's how it is supposed to work.  But no, acts have contracts and the most popular acts love how the labels shove only those acts down our throats.  The music industry is a sorry state right now and rarely do we hear news like this.  At least UMG appears to be slowly realizing that it's adapt-or-die time.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the article notes that " executives at the other majors were nervous about the UMG move " and " privately , some appeared annoyed .
" You do n't say .
You mean to tell me that they might have to price their music competitively ?
That they might have to take a pay cut in order to compete in the market ?
That their 'silent agreement [ slashdot.org ] ' of what all music should cost among the biggest labels is no more ?
Music record contracts really annoy me in this respect .
They are nothing but middlemen when it comes to publishing music .
I understand their role in promoting and paying upfront cash for studio time but their role as publishers is leech at best .
If bands had the ability to pit manufacturers against each other in publishing their CDs and albums ( and also if the band could decide what percentage they needed from sales ) then we would see prices dramatically plummet .
Look at CDBaby and think how inexpensive it could get if that kind of market was where we bought all our CDs .
And in a capitalistic world , that 's how it is supposed to work .
But no , acts have contracts and the most popular acts love how the labels shove only those acts down our throats .
The music industry is a sorry state right now and rarely do we hear news like this .
At least UMG appears to be slowly realizing that it 's adapt-or-die time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the article notes that "executives at the other majors were nervous about the UMG move" and "privately, some appeared annoyed.
"You don't say.
You mean to tell me that they might have to price their music competitively?
That they might have to take a pay cut in order to compete in the market?
That their 'silent agreement [slashdot.org]' of what all music should cost among the biggest labels is no more?
Music record contracts really annoy me in this respect.
They are nothing but middlemen when it comes to publishing music.
I understand their role in promoting and paying upfront cash for studio time but their role as publishers is leech at best.
If bands had the ability to pit manufacturers against each other in publishing their CDs and albums (and also if the band could decide what percentage they needed from sales) then we would see prices dramatically plummet.
Look at CDBaby and think how inexpensive it could get if that kind of market was where we bought all our CDs.
And in a capitalistic world, that's how it is supposed to work.
But no, acts have contracts and the most popular acts love how the labels shove only those acts down our throats.
The music industry is a sorry state right now and rarely do we hear news like this.
At least UMG appears to be slowly realizing that it's adapt-or-die time.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537224</id>
	<title>"privately, some appeared annoyed."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Doesn't this just imply collusion, when we have executives at other companies "annoyed" when UMG lowers prices? What right do they have to tell UMG what prices to set?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't this just imply collusion , when we have executives at other companies " annoyed " when UMG lowers prices ?
What right do they have to tell UMG what prices to set ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't this just imply collusion, when we have executives at other companies "annoyed" when UMG lowers prices?
What right do they have to tell UMG what prices to set?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543690</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268992680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Posting AC as I've already moderated- including your post above, as I agree with it mostly, but...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Probably for the same reason that young people prefer MP3s to higher quality music.  [slashdot.org] People grow up listening to music in a certain way and the cracks and pops of vinyls</p></div><p>I grew up listening to cassettes on a cheap non-Dolby player, and I really don't miss the hiss (*). Listening to MP3 transfers of stuff I did from cassette it's actually quite distracting now.</p><p>The only thing I'd say is that *specific* recordings- more ones taken from LPs- sound slightly wrong without the odd pop and click in the place I'd expect it, or did until I got used to the CD/digital version. But do I want the sound of cassettes in general back? No.</p><p>I always thought cassettes got more criticism than was warranted to be honest, but I'm also bored by the fetishisation of them as a retro-symbol that emerged almost exactly at the point that they became commercially obsolete.</p><p>(*) Okay, to be honest, I didn't really notice it at the time probably because it was all I knew- I didn't listen to LPs (they were what my parents listened to, *boring!*) and CDs were some years from being mainstream.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Posting AC as I 've already moderated- including your post above , as I agree with it mostly , but...Probably for the same reason that young people prefer MP3s to higher quality music .
[ slashdot.org ] People grow up listening to music in a certain way and the cracks and pops of vinylsI grew up listening to cassettes on a cheap non-Dolby player , and I really do n't miss the hiss ( * ) .
Listening to MP3 transfers of stuff I did from cassette it 's actually quite distracting now.The only thing I 'd say is that * specific * recordings- more ones taken from LPs- sound slightly wrong without the odd pop and click in the place I 'd expect it , or did until I got used to the CD/digital version .
But do I want the sound of cassettes in general back ?
No.I always thought cassettes got more criticism than was warranted to be honest , but I 'm also bored by the fetishisation of them as a retro-symbol that emerged almost exactly at the point that they became commercially obsolete .
( * ) Okay , to be honest , I did n't really notice it at the time probably because it was all I knew- I did n't listen to LPs ( they were what my parents listened to , * boring !
* ) and CDs were some years from being mainstream .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Posting AC as I've already moderated- including your post above, as I agree with it mostly, but...Probably for the same reason that young people prefer MP3s to higher quality music.
[slashdot.org] People grow up listening to music in a certain way and the cracks and pops of vinylsI grew up listening to cassettes on a cheap non-Dolby player, and I really don't miss the hiss (*).
Listening to MP3 transfers of stuff I did from cassette it's actually quite distracting now.The only thing I'd say is that *specific* recordings- more ones taken from LPs- sound slightly wrong without the odd pop and click in the place I'd expect it, or did until I got used to the CD/digital version.
But do I want the sound of cassettes in general back?
No.I always thought cassettes got more criticism than was warranted to be honest, but I'm also bored by the fetishisation of them as a retro-symbol that emerged almost exactly at the point that they became commercially obsolete.
(*) Okay, to be honest, I didn't really notice it at the time probably because it was all I knew- I didn't listen to LPs (they were what my parents listened to, *boring!
*) and CDs were some years from being mainstream.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537364</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>somersault</author>
	<datestamp>1269013320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I don't even have to take the album out of its wrapper.</p></div><p>Yeah, that sounds really worth the extra money. I have barely any space to store my DVDs and blu-rays in my flat right now. I'm glad I could shove all my CDs into my mum's attic. I used to have some kind of sentimental attachment to them, but that starting going after Amazon began offering cheap MP3 albums, and completely evaporated last time I had to move flat. Storing and moving CDs and DVDs is a real pain - and records would be even worse in terms of space - not to mention more fragile. I don't see anything empowering about needing to keep highly inefficient backups of what is essentially just something you want to hear - not something you need to look at or touch.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't even have to take the album out of its wrapper.Yeah , that sounds really worth the extra money .
I have barely any space to store my DVDs and blu-rays in my flat right now .
I 'm glad I could shove all my CDs into my mum 's attic .
I used to have some kind of sentimental attachment to them , but that starting going after Amazon began offering cheap MP3 albums , and completely evaporated last time I had to move flat .
Storing and moving CDs and DVDs is a real pain - and records would be even worse in terms of space - not to mention more fragile .
I do n't see anything empowering about needing to keep highly inefficient backups of what is essentially just something you want to hear - not something you need to look at or touch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I don't even have to take the album out of its wrapper.Yeah, that sounds really worth the extra money.
I have barely any space to store my DVDs and blu-rays in my flat right now.
I'm glad I could shove all my CDs into my mum's attic.
I used to have some kind of sentimental attachment to them, but that starting going after Amazon began offering cheap MP3 albums, and completely evaporated last time I had to move flat.
Storing and moving CDs and DVDs is a real pain - and records would be even worse in terms of space - not to mention more fragile.
I don't see anything empowering about needing to keep highly inefficient backups of what is essentially just something you want to hear - not something you need to look at or touch.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537694</id>
	<title>Bad marketing decision</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269014220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CD's priced at $9.99, $8.99, $7.99, $6.99, and $5.99 would sell a lot better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CD 's priced at $ 9.99 , $ 8.99 , $ 7.99 , $ 6.99 , and $ 5.99 would sell a lot better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CD's priced at $9.99, $8.99, $7.99, $6.99, and $5.99 would sell a lot better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540936</id>
	<title>Re:What's the first thing you would do with a CD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269024180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Play it. Seriously, since I only have 500 MB left on my hard drive (I have a 250 GB HD). I tried moving a bunch shit from my HD (movies, old useful programs, 3ds max documents, SolidWorks documents, uninstalled some games, etc), yet I still manage to have  1 GB. And I need more memory for the page file and I know that I am 100\% free of malware.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Play it .
Seriously , since I only have 500 MB left on my hard drive ( I have a 250 GB HD ) .
I tried moving a bunch shit from my HD ( movies , old useful programs , 3ds max documents , SolidWorks documents , uninstalled some games , etc ) , yet I still manage to have 1 GB .
And I need more memory for the page file and I know that I am 100 \ % free of malware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Play it.
Seriously, since I only have 500 MB left on my hard drive (I have a 250 GB HD).
I tried moving a bunch shit from my HD (movies, old useful programs, 3ds max documents, SolidWorks documents, uninstalled some games, etc), yet I still manage to have  1 GB.
And I need more memory for the page file and I know that I am 100\% free of malware.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536914</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31546912</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1269014100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget, CDs have higher audio quality than MP3s. They're still the only choice if you want a lossless format (i.e ripped to FLAC).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget , CDs have higher audio quality than MP3s .
They 're still the only choice if you want a lossless format ( i.e ripped to FLAC ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget, CDs have higher audio quality than MP3s.
They're still the only choice if you want a lossless format (i.e ripped to FLAC).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536812</id>
	<title>0$</title>
	<author>krapski</author>
	<datestamp>1269012060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I get them for 0$ in pirate bay, how do you compete with that!?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I get them for 0 $ in pirate bay , how do you compete with that !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get them for 0$ in pirate bay, how do you compete with that!
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538956</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1269017460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I believe the correct verb you're looking for is 'ripped.' But before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical. You have, as a physical object, evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media. I do buy $5 albums on Amazon MP3 but I feel almost like I somehow receive less rights or a watered down licensing of that album as opposed to if I had purchased the album. If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising [latimes.com]?"</p><p>Well, you seem to have a sentimental attachment to vinyl discs, perhaps you have a sentimental attachment to plastic ones as well.  The music on the CDs is just as much "licensed" to you as the music in a (legally) downloaded MP3.  All you "own" is the plastic disc, and some would probably argue that you don't really own that either.  If you really want a physical object that testifies to your "licensing of personal enjoyment of that media," print out your mp3 purchase receipt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I believe the correct verb you 're looking for is 'ripped .
' But before you go on about how 'quaint ' CDs are , keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical .
You have , as a physical object , evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media .
I do buy $ 5 albums on Amazon MP3 but I feel almost like I somehow receive less rights or a watered down licensing of that album as opposed to if I had purchased the album .
If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising [ latimes.com ] ?
" Well , you seem to have a sentimental attachment to vinyl discs , perhaps you have a sentimental attachment to plastic ones as well .
The music on the CDs is just as much " licensed " to you as the music in a ( legally ) downloaded MP3 .
All you " own " is the plastic disc , and some would probably argue that you do n't really own that either .
If you really want a physical object that testifies to your " licensing of personal enjoyment of that media , " print out your mp3 purchase receipt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I believe the correct verb you're looking for is 'ripped.
' But before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.
You have, as a physical object, evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media.
I do buy $5 albums on Amazon MP3 but I feel almost like I somehow receive less rights or a watered down licensing of that album as opposed to if I had purchased the album.
If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising [latimes.com]?
"Well, you seem to have a sentimental attachment to vinyl discs, perhaps you have a sentimental attachment to plastic ones as well.
The music on the CDs is just as much "licensed" to you as the music in a (legally) downloaded MP3.
All you "own" is the plastic disc, and some would probably argue that you don't really own that either.
If you really want a physical object that testifies to your "licensing of personal enjoyment of that media," print out your mp3 purchase receipt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538404</id>
	<title>From what I've been seeing...</title>
	<author>Misch</author>
	<datestamp>1269015900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From what I've been seeing, I've noted that a number of musicians that I listen to have gone to a "pay what you want" price for their CDs.  They used to sell them for $15 a pop, but have switched to "There's a pile of CDs in the back of the room.  Pay what you can, I suggest $15" model.</p><p>Of course, these are small-time artists in the independent world, so they have the flexibility to set their own prices.</p><p>One of the performers doing this has said that he is making more of a profit every night because more people are giving <i>something</i>. (Granted, the profit margin is smaller, but he's making it up in volume.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I 've been seeing , I 've noted that a number of musicians that I listen to have gone to a " pay what you want " price for their CDs .
They used to sell them for $ 15 a pop , but have switched to " There 's a pile of CDs in the back of the room .
Pay what you can , I suggest $ 15 " model.Of course , these are small-time artists in the independent world , so they have the flexibility to set their own prices.One of the performers doing this has said that he is making more of a profit every night because more people are giving something .
( Granted , the profit margin is smaller , but he 's making it up in volume .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I've been seeing, I've noted that a number of musicians that I listen to have gone to a "pay what you want" price for their CDs.
They used to sell them for $15 a pop, but have switched to "There's a pile of CDs in the back of the room.
Pay what you can, I suggest $15" model.Of course, these are small-time artists in the independent world, so they have the flexibility to set their own prices.One of the performers doing this has said that he is making more of a profit every night because more people are giving something.
(Granted, the profit margin is smaller, but he's making it up in volume.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541338</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269025740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You say this as though audio fidelity is the only reason anyone listens to music. Similarly, why would anyone listen to mp3s instead of FLAC?</p><p>Vinyl offers:</p><p>1. larger album art<br>2. more inserts<br>3. greater engagement in the music listening experience<br>4. a smug sense of superiority over the plebs</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You say this as though audio fidelity is the only reason anyone listens to music .
Similarly , why would anyone listen to mp3s instead of FLAC ? Vinyl offers : 1. larger album art2 .
more inserts3 .
greater engagement in the music listening experience4 .
a smug sense of superiority over the plebs</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You say this as though audio fidelity is the only reason anyone listens to music.
Similarly, why would anyone listen to mp3s instead of FLAC?Vinyl offers:1. larger album art2.
more inserts3.
greater engagement in the music listening experience4.
a smug sense of superiority over the plebs</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537464</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540358</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>517714</author>
	<datestamp>1269022020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Be careful on throwing around certain terms.  "Losslessly encoded music" does not assure quality, it applies only to post sampling processing.  CD sampling is at 44kHz and is filtered so that nothing above 20kHz is sampled.  A tiny bit of audio information is lost in the process, although dogs might contend that the sampling rate is too low.  If I "losslessly encode" music that is sampled at 5 Khz the recording will be undeniably distorted from the original music, and inferior to a very lossy MP3 sampled at 44 kHz with the same data rate, but it will be a 100\% accurate representation of my sampled data.  Everything else you say is spot on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Be careful on throwing around certain terms .
" Losslessly encoded music " does not assure quality , it applies only to post sampling processing .
CD sampling is at 44kHz and is filtered so that nothing above 20kHz is sampled .
A tiny bit of audio information is lost in the process , although dogs might contend that the sampling rate is too low .
If I " losslessly encode " music that is sampled at 5 Khz the recording will be undeniably distorted from the original music , and inferior to a very lossy MP3 sampled at 44 kHz with the same data rate , but it will be a 100 \ % accurate representation of my sampled data .
Everything else you say is spot on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Be careful on throwing around certain terms.
"Losslessly encoded music" does not assure quality, it applies only to post sampling processing.
CD sampling is at 44kHz and is filtered so that nothing above 20kHz is sampled.
A tiny bit of audio information is lost in the process, although dogs might contend that the sampling rate is too low.
If I "losslessly encode" music that is sampled at 5 Khz the recording will be undeniably distorted from the original music, and inferior to a very lossy MP3 sampled at 44 kHz with the same data rate, but it will be a 100\% accurate representation of my sampled data.
Everything else you say is spot on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541400</id>
	<title>never buying a cd ...</title>
	<author>tabooli</author>
	<datestamp>1269025980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>... until they let me mail in my gas and parking receipt and get reimbursed for the trip to the b&amp;m.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... until they let me mail in my gas and parking receipt and get reimbursed for the trip to the b&amp;m .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... until they let me mail in my gas and parking receipt and get reimbursed for the trip to the b&amp;m.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540354</id>
	<title>Re:Too late</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269021960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I expect that eventually they'll just stop making CDs, and all music will be distributed via the network.</p></div><p>At which point they'll no longer get my money.  I'm not buying something without a physical copy, and lucky for me, there are still plenty of people on my side.  Enough that they don't want to lose our business.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I expect that eventually they 'll just stop making CDs , and all music will be distributed via the network.At which point they 'll no longer get my money .
I 'm not buying something without a physical copy , and lucky for me , there are still plenty of people on my side .
Enough that they do n't want to lose our business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I expect that eventually they'll just stop making CDs, and all music will be distributed via the network.At which point they'll no longer get my money.
I'm not buying something without a physical copy, and lucky for me, there are still plenty of people on my side.
Enough that they don't want to lose our business.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537026</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538346</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269015780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't even remember the last time I've used an Audio CD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't even remember the last time I 've used an Audio CD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't even remember the last time I've used an Audio CD.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543994</id>
	<title>Awesome</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1268994000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll make sure to support UMG more than the other twats. I do like to still buy CDs because I can convert them to MP3, OGG or whatever and have a back-up straight away. When I don't buy CDs, I go for Amazon which has the best digital system so far.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll make sure to support UMG more than the other twats .
I do like to still buy CDs because I can convert them to MP3 , OGG or whatever and have a back-up straight away .
When I do n't buy CDs , I go for Amazon which has the best digital system so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll make sure to support UMG more than the other twats.
I do like to still buy CDs because I can convert them to MP3, OGG or whatever and have a back-up straight away.
When I don't buy CDs, I go for Amazon which has the best digital system so far.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541998</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>hal2814</author>
	<datestamp>1269028620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"But before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical."</p><p>I own something physical.  It's called an MP3 player.  And yes, it's very nice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" But before you go on about how 'quaint ' CDs are , keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical .
" I own something physical .
It 's called an MP3 player .
And yes , it 's very nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"But before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.
"I own something physical.
It's called an MP3 player.
And yes, it's very nice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539392</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>RapmasterT</author>
	<datestamp>1269018780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Vinyl is rising because it bottomed out and is doing the proverbial "dead man bounce".
<br> <br>
The reason some people like vinyl better than digital, is because it sounds "warmer", which is just a positive spin on "muddled" or "lower dynamic range".  They complain that digital sounds too harsh.
<br> <br>
The unpleasant truth though is LIVE music is harsh, that's the sound you don't like.  You just won't find self-proclaimed audiophiles proudly saying "I don't like how live music sounds, so I prefer it run through a distortion filter first".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Vinyl is rising because it bottomed out and is doing the proverbial " dead man bounce " .
The reason some people like vinyl better than digital , is because it sounds " warmer " , which is just a positive spin on " muddled " or " lower dynamic range " .
They complain that digital sounds too harsh .
The unpleasant truth though is LIVE music is harsh , that 's the sound you do n't like .
You just wo n't find self-proclaimed audiophiles proudly saying " I do n't like how live music sounds , so I prefer it run through a distortion filter first " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vinyl is rising because it bottomed out and is doing the proverbial "dead man bounce".
The reason some people like vinyl better than digital, is because it sounds "warmer", which is just a positive spin on "muddled" or "lower dynamic range".
They complain that digital sounds too harsh.
The unpleasant truth though is LIVE music is harsh, that's the sound you don't like.
You just won't find self-proclaimed audiophiles proudly saying "I don't like how live music sounds, so I prefer it run through a distortion filter first".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536930</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537326</id>
	<title>"Single CD's" will have the suggested list prices</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1269013200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Am I the only one that read that and said "Oh, so the album CDs will still be 25 bucks?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one that read that and said " Oh , so the album CDs will still be 25 bucks ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one that read that and said "Oh, so the album CDs will still be 25 bucks?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537780</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Yaa 101</author>
	<datestamp>1269014400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing keeps you from burning that song to CD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing keeps you from burning that song to CD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing keeps you from burning that song to CD.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537002</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31542468</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269030780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The music industry is a sorry state right now"</p><p>No it's not, there is a ton a great music out there, probably more variety then ever before in history. A lot of it is free, or very cheap. It's just the major labels that are hurting because they are too slow or reluctant to adapt to a changing market. The Indy labels/artists are doing just fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The music industry is a sorry state right now " No it 's not , there is a ton a great music out there , probably more variety then ever before in history .
A lot of it is free , or very cheap .
It 's just the major labels that are hurting because they are too slow or reluctant to adapt to a changing market .
The Indy labels/artists are doing just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The music industry is a sorry state right now"No it's not, there is a ton a great music out there, probably more variety then ever before in history.
A lot of it is free, or very cheap.
It's just the major labels that are hurting because they are too slow or reluctant to adapt to a changing market.
The Indy labels/artists are doing just fine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536716</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538780</id>
	<title>Re:"Single CD's" will have the suggested list pric</title>
	<author>HikingStick</author>
	<datestamp>1269016860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read that to mean an album that is on a single CD.  Albums that span more than one disk, or are bundled with extra content, will still be a premium product.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read that to mean an album that is on a single CD .
Albums that span more than one disk , or are bundled with extra content , will still be a premium product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read that to mean an album that is on a single CD.
Albums that span more than one disk, or are bundled with extra content, will still be a premium product.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537326</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538500</id>
	<title>Re:It only took a decade or so...</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1269016080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The same economist would probably also tell them that this is usually only true if the market is so that lowering them price would open up the market to a much larger part of the population or that people would consume vastly more. Neither is really true, almost everyone everywhere listens to some music already and most people won't be dedicating much more time to listen to it nor can they listen to more than one song at once. And there's always free radio 24/7 if everything else is not enough, or Spotify if you're lucky enough to have that. There's tons of budget bin music, but nobody's buying it.</p><p>The simple truth is that most people are cheap. Even with free Spotify everybody's talking about how annoying the ads are, yet extremely few want to pay to make them go away. It's like going on and on about your toothache and yet you never go see a dentist. It costs 17$/month (99 NOK) to cure in a country with a nominal GDP of 76,692$. Compared to US incomes that's 10$/month for practically near limitless access to music, offline access and so on and it annoys them and still they don't pay. For comparison, you'd get about four rides with the city bus/tram/subway here for the same. At the local fastfood I'd get two kebabs or somewhat less than a pizza. But that's not what people want, they want it for free and continue to be annoyed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The same economist would probably also tell them that this is usually only true if the market is so that lowering them price would open up the market to a much larger part of the population or that people would consume vastly more .
Neither is really true , almost everyone everywhere listens to some music already and most people wo n't be dedicating much more time to listen to it nor can they listen to more than one song at once .
And there 's always free radio 24/7 if everything else is not enough , or Spotify if you 're lucky enough to have that .
There 's tons of budget bin music , but nobody 's buying it.The simple truth is that most people are cheap .
Even with free Spotify everybody 's talking about how annoying the ads are , yet extremely few want to pay to make them go away .
It 's like going on and on about your toothache and yet you never go see a dentist .
It costs 17 $ /month ( 99 NOK ) to cure in a country with a nominal GDP of 76,692 $ .
Compared to US incomes that 's 10 $ /month for practically near limitless access to music , offline access and so on and it annoys them and still they do n't pay .
For comparison , you 'd get about four rides with the city bus/tram/subway here for the same .
At the local fastfood I 'd get two kebabs or somewhat less than a pizza .
But that 's not what people want , they want it for free and continue to be annoyed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same economist would probably also tell them that this is usually only true if the market is so that lowering them price would open up the market to a much larger part of the population or that people would consume vastly more.
Neither is really true, almost everyone everywhere listens to some music already and most people won't be dedicating much more time to listen to it nor can they listen to more than one song at once.
And there's always free radio 24/7 if everything else is not enough, or Spotify if you're lucky enough to have that.
There's tons of budget bin music, but nobody's buying it.The simple truth is that most people are cheap.
Even with free Spotify everybody's talking about how annoying the ads are, yet extremely few want to pay to make them go away.
It's like going on and on about your toothache and yet you never go see a dentist.
It costs 17$/month (99 NOK) to cure in a country with a nominal GDP of 76,692$.
Compared to US incomes that's 10$/month for practically near limitless access to music, offline access and so on and it annoys them and still they don't pay.
For comparison, you'd get about four rides with the city bus/tram/subway here for the same.
At the local fastfood I'd get two kebabs or somewhat less than a pizza.
But that's not what people want, they want it for free and continue to be annoyed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541458</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>Threni</author>
	<datestamp>1269026280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; You don't say. You mean to tell me that they might have to price their music competitively? That they might have to take a pay cut in order to compete in the market?<br>&gt; That their 'silent agreement' of what all music should cost among the biggest labels is no more?</p><p>Uh..no.  This isn't about `music`, it's about CDs.  They're on the way out.   These are their death throes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; You do n't say .
You mean to tell me that they might have to price their music competitively ?
That they might have to take a pay cut in order to compete in the market ? &gt; That their 'silent agreement ' of what all music should cost among the biggest labels is no more ? Uh..no .
This is n't about ` music ` , it 's about CDs .
They 're on the way out .
These are their death throes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; You don't say.
You mean to tell me that they might have to price their music competitively?
That they might have to take a pay cut in order to compete in the market?&gt; That their 'silent agreement' of what all music should cost among the biggest labels is no more?Uh..no.
This isn't about `music`, it's about CDs.
They're on the way out.
These are their death throes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539062</id>
	<title>Re:The business model isn't completely dead with t</title>
	<author>Nethemas the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1269017820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What does the fact that a $15-20 charge on a piece of plastic that costs $0.30 to make and provides $0.26 to the artist tell you?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What does the fact that a $ 15-20 charge on a piece of plastic that costs $ 0.30 to make and provides $ 0.26 to the artist tell you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does the fact that a $15-20 charge on a piece of plastic that costs $0.30 to make and provides $0.26 to the artist tell you?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31542142</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269029160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone I know with a large and growing LP collection is 20-something hipster with a USB turntable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone I know with a large and growing LP collection is 20-something hipster with a USB turntable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone I know with a large and growing LP collection is 20-something hipster with a USB turntable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539628</id>
	<title>Only in the US....</title>
	<author>Niedi</author>
	<datestamp>1269019560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here in Germany they still expect me to pay 13-16 euro for most new cds. Mind you according to Google, that's 17,65$ to 21,65$...<br><br>And they seem honestly surprised why I'm not willing to pay that much...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Germany they still expect me to pay 13-16 euro for most new cds .
Mind you according to Google , that 's 17,65 $ to 21,65 $ ...And they seem honestly surprised why I 'm not willing to pay that much.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Germany they still expect me to pay 13-16 euro for most new cds.
Mind you according to Google, that's 17,65$ to 21,65$...And they seem honestly surprised why I'm not willing to pay that much...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538910</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>imakemusic</author>
	<datestamp>1269017280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.</p></div><p>Or they like mixing/scratching and there is a growing culture of DJs (and wannabe DJs) out there. Final Cut and its equivalents are ok and getting better but there's something about the direct physical control you have over a piece of vinyl that puts it above the rest.</p><p>Unless of course you were implying that DJs are all fools?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.Or they like mixing/scratching and there is a growing culture of DJs ( and wannabe DJs ) out there .
Final Cut and its equivalents are ok and getting better but there 's something about the direct physical control you have over a piece of vinyl that puts it above the rest.Unless of course you were implying that DJs are all fools ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.Or they like mixing/scratching and there is a growing culture of DJs (and wannabe DJs) out there.
Final Cut and its equivalents are ok and getting better but there's something about the direct physical control you have over a piece of vinyl that puts it above the rest.Unless of course you were implying that DJs are all fools?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537614</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Aphoxema</author>
	<datestamp>1269013980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[...] before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.  You have, as a physical object, evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media.</p></div><p>Though the short life expectancy of CDs appears to have been greatly exaggerated, they do have a finite lifespan while music in a more transient form can happily be saved from one hermetically sealed hard disk to the next. Either way, all the CRC checks in the world can't guarantee immortality of any data.</p><p>Speaking of transient... I've lived most of my teens going from one place to the next, often losing or giving away my possessions in the process. Those quaint, physical goods meant bullshit to me sleeping in an alley or at so-and-so's couch for the week.</p><p>What did comfort me was recovering collections of music from friends I shared with since the days of Napster, an impossibility if relying solely on CDs, regardless of the legality.</p><p>I'm an immaterial girl living in an immaterial world. Well, except for my recent journey into my PS3 and buying up used games for it. At least Blu-rays are a little sturdier than DVDs and CDs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ ... ] before you go on about how 'quaint ' CDs are , keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical .
You have , as a physical object , evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media.Though the short life expectancy of CDs appears to have been greatly exaggerated , they do have a finite lifespan while music in a more transient form can happily be saved from one hermetically sealed hard disk to the next .
Either way , all the CRC checks in the world ca n't guarantee immortality of any data.Speaking of transient... I 've lived most of my teens going from one place to the next , often losing or giving away my possessions in the process .
Those quaint , physical goods meant bullshit to me sleeping in an alley or at so-and-so 's couch for the week.What did comfort me was recovering collections of music from friends I shared with since the days of Napster , an impossibility if relying solely on CDs , regardless of the legality.I 'm an immaterial girl living in an immaterial world .
Well , except for my recent journey into my PS3 and buying up used games for it .
At least Blu-rays are a little sturdier than DVDs and CDs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[...] before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.
You have, as a physical object, evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media.Though the short life expectancy of CDs appears to have been greatly exaggerated, they do have a finite lifespan while music in a more transient form can happily be saved from one hermetically sealed hard disk to the next.
Either way, all the CRC checks in the world can't guarantee immortality of any data.Speaking of transient... I've lived most of my teens going from one place to the next, often losing or giving away my possessions in the process.
Those quaint, physical goods meant bullshit to me sleeping in an alley or at so-and-so's couch for the week.What did comfort me was recovering collections of music from friends I shared with since the days of Napster, an impossibility if relying solely on CDs, regardless of the legality.I'm an immaterial girl living in an immaterial world.
Well, except for my recent journey into my PS3 and buying up used games for it.
At least Blu-rays are a little sturdier than DVDs and CDs.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537522</id>
	<title>Re:Normal price here. And still way overpriced.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow.. I want what you're smoking.   Maybe you should start a band and make a million dollars with your burnt/sleeved CDs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow.. I want what you 're smoking .
Maybe you should start a band and make a million dollars with your burnt/sleeved CDs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.. I want what you're smoking.
Maybe you should start a band and make a million dollars with your burnt/sleeved CDs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541210</id>
	<title>Re:Too late</title>
	<author>GasparGMSwordsman</author>
	<datestamp>1269025080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm not sure I'd call CDs relevant still.</p> </div><p>I do love reading comments like this.  CD sale make up more than 55\% of all music sales.  This includes Vinyl, MP3 (or any other digital format), Cassette tapes and any other format.  (Actually if you look at the numbers, they refer to "songs sold online" vrs "CD albums sold".  If you take a reasonable and low estimate that there are 8 songs on a CD, the math clearly shows that songs are being sold at a rate of 2-1 in CD's favor)<br> <br>

I questions anyone's sanity that say, "Is the majority of the market still relevant?"  Let me use another example.  About half of all people are Women, would you claim that Women are not relevant?<br> <br>

Even if CD sales declined at this speed for 5 more years.  At the end of that, it would still be a fifth of all music sales.<br> <br>

So here is what I suggest, since 1/5 is obviously not relevant.  Next time you get a pay check, send the not relevant portion to me!  (pre or post tax, either way, I am not picky.)</p></div>
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<tokenext>I 'm not sure I 'd call CDs relevant still .
I do love reading comments like this .
CD sale make up more than 55 \ % of all music sales .
This includes Vinyl , MP3 ( or any other digital format ) , Cassette tapes and any other format .
( Actually if you look at the numbers , they refer to " songs sold online " vrs " CD albums sold " .
If you take a reasonable and low estimate that there are 8 songs on a CD , the math clearly shows that songs are being sold at a rate of 2-1 in CD 's favor ) I questions anyone 's sanity that say , " Is the majority of the market still relevant ?
" Let me use another example .
About half of all people are Women , would you claim that Women are not relevant ?
Even if CD sales declined at this speed for 5 more years .
At the end of that , it would still be a fifth of all music sales .
So here is what I suggest , since 1/5 is obviously not relevant .
Next time you get a pay check , send the not relevant portion to me !
( pre or post tax , either way , I am not picky .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure I'd call CDs relevant still.
I do love reading comments like this.
CD sale make up more than 55\% of all music sales.
This includes Vinyl, MP3 (or any other digital format), Cassette tapes and any other format.
(Actually if you look at the numbers, they refer to "songs sold online" vrs "CD albums sold".
If you take a reasonable and low estimate that there are 8 songs on a CD, the math clearly shows that songs are being sold at a rate of 2-1 in CD's favor) 

I questions anyone's sanity that say, "Is the majority of the market still relevant?
"  Let me use another example.
About half of all people are Women, would you claim that Women are not relevant?
Even if CD sales declined at this speed for 5 more years.
At the end of that, it would still be a fifth of all music sales.
So here is what I suggest, since 1/5 is obviously not relevant.
Next time you get a pay check, send the not relevant portion to me!
(pre or post tax, either way, I am not picky.
)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31579454</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269278760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You don't say.  You mean to tell me that [...] they might have to take a pay cut in order to compete in the market?</p></div><p>Standard accounting practice is to count administrative pay as a fixed cost. Their salaries aren't going anywhere.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't say .
You mean to tell me that [ ... ] they might have to take a pay cut in order to compete in the market ? Standard accounting practice is to count administrative pay as a fixed cost .
Their salaries are n't going anywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't say.
You mean to tell me that [...] they might have to take a pay cut in order to compete in the market?Standard accounting practice is to count administrative pay as a fixed cost.
Their salaries aren't going anywhere.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537456</id>
	<title>The Music Industry 'Gets it'</title>
	<author>tpstigers</author>
	<datestamp>1269013560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Every time the price of music comes up, I read dozens of comments that say, in a nutshell, that the music industry 'doesn't get it'.  And yet, they're still up to their necks in money.

While the music industry (and the film industry) seem to be doing everything in their power to resist the onslaught of the internet, their continued profits would argue that their resistance is not exactly futile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Every time the price of music comes up , I read dozens of comments that say , in a nutshell , that the music industry 'does n't get it' .
And yet , they 're still up to their necks in money .
While the music industry ( and the film industry ) seem to be doing everything in their power to resist the onslaught of the internet , their continued profits would argue that their resistance is not exactly futile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every time the price of music comes up, I read dozens of comments that say, in a nutshell, that the music industry 'doesn't get it'.
And yet, they're still up to their necks in money.
While the music industry (and the film industry) seem to be doing everything in their power to resist the onslaught of the internet, their continued profits would argue that their resistance is not exactly futile.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539136</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>dc29A</author>
	<datestamp>1269018000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>At least UMG appears to be slowly realizing that it's adapt-or-die time.</p></div><p>I was exited a bit, until I read the list of artists they have <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Universal\_Music\_Group\_artists" title="wikipedia.org">signed</a> [wikipedia.org]. 99\% of it is commercial garbage I wouldn't even bother downloading.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least UMG appears to be slowly realizing that it 's adapt-or-die time.I was exited a bit , until I read the list of artists they have signed [ wikipedia.org ] .
99 \ % of it is commercial garbage I would n't even bother downloading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least UMG appears to be slowly realizing that it's adapt-or-die time.I was exited a bit, until I read the list of artists they have signed [wikipedia.org].
99\% of it is commercial garbage I wouldn't even bother downloading.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539216</id>
	<title>Re:Too late</title>
	<author>wirehead\_rick</author>
	<datestamp>1269018180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This would have been a great strategy for the late 1990's, when the CD was still a relevant media (and, for that matter, when consumers were demanding that prices be lowered, both through their words and through their actions -- which the industry by and large ignored completely).</p><p>I'm not sure I'd call CDs relevant still.  We've moved on to solid state media, writeable storage decoupled from the content.  You could discount 8-track tapes and they wouldn't sell today.  CD's don't have the same analog appeal that vinyl records to, either.  I expect that eventually they'll just stop making CDs, and all music will be distributed via the network.</p><p>This price reduction merely indicates that we're a little bit closer to that day.  I doubt it'll do much to boost sales at this point.</p></div><p>Mod parent up.</p><p>This is \_the\_ post of the day.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This would have been a great strategy for the late 1990 's , when the CD was still a relevant media ( and , for that matter , when consumers were demanding that prices be lowered , both through their words and through their actions -- which the industry by and large ignored completely ) .I 'm not sure I 'd call CDs relevant still .
We 've moved on to solid state media , writeable storage decoupled from the content .
You could discount 8-track tapes and they would n't sell today .
CD 's do n't have the same analog appeal that vinyl records to , either .
I expect that eventually they 'll just stop making CDs , and all music will be distributed via the network.This price reduction merely indicates that we 're a little bit closer to that day .
I doubt it 'll do much to boost sales at this point.Mod parent up.This is \ _the \ _ post of the day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would have been a great strategy for the late 1990's, when the CD was still a relevant media (and, for that matter, when consumers were demanding that prices be lowered, both through their words and through their actions -- which the industry by and large ignored completely).I'm not sure I'd call CDs relevant still.
We've moved on to solid state media, writeable storage decoupled from the content.
You could discount 8-track tapes and they wouldn't sell today.
CD's don't have the same analog appeal that vinyl records to, either.
I expect that eventually they'll just stop making CDs, and all music will be distributed via the network.This price reduction merely indicates that we're a little bit closer to that day.
I doubt it'll do much to boost sales at this point.Mod parent up.This is \_the\_ post of the day.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541032</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>oogoliegoogolie</author>
	<datestamp>1269024540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't!  Just how old are you, grandpa?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't !
Just how old are you , grandpa ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't!
Just how old are you, grandpa?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537648</id>
	<title>Re:The business model isn't completely dead with t</title>
	<author>MarkvW</author>
	<datestamp>1269014040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If artists make 13 times more money on CDs than they do on itunes, what does that tell you about efficiencies in the music marketplace?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If artists make 13 times more money on CDs than they do on itunes , what does that tell you about efficiencies in the music marketplace ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If artists make 13 times more money on CDs than they do on itunes, what does that tell you about efficiencies in the music marketplace?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538718</id>
	<title>A decade too late?</title>
	<author>rudy\_wayne</author>
	<datestamp>1269016740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or too little too late.  Even if the record companies had reduced CD prices to more reasonable levels 10 years ago, I don't think things would be much different today.  I haven't listened to a CD in a long time.  Why would I want to be constantly shuffling CDs in an out of a CD player when I can rip everything to my hard drive or MP3 player and have hundreds of hours of music easily availble.  Things have changed.  Just as nobody uses 8-Track tapes anymore, the use of physical media is declining.</p><p>CDs are the new buggy whips.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or too little too late .
Even if the record companies had reduced CD prices to more reasonable levels 10 years ago , I do n't think things would be much different today .
I have n't listened to a CD in a long time .
Why would I want to be constantly shuffling CDs in an out of a CD player when I can rip everything to my hard drive or MP3 player and have hundreds of hours of music easily availble .
Things have changed .
Just as nobody uses 8-Track tapes anymore , the use of physical media is declining.CDs are the new buggy whips .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or too little too late.
Even if the record companies had reduced CD prices to more reasonable levels 10 years ago, I don't think things would be much different today.
I haven't listened to a CD in a long time.
Why would I want to be constantly shuffling CDs in an out of a CD player when I can rip everything to my hard drive or MP3 player and have hundreds of hours of music easily availble.
Things have changed.
Just as nobody uses 8-Track tapes anymore, the use of physical media is declining.CDs are the new buggy whips.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31547582</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>amRadioHed</author>
	<datestamp>1269024240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is so pretentious about having a turntable on display? At least it does something, unlike most decorations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is so pretentious about having a turntable on display ?
At least it does something , unlike most decorations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is so pretentious about having a turntable on display?
At least it does something, unlike most decorations.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31542634</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Improved Silence</author>
	<datestamp>1269031560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  If you find this concept quaint then <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music\_blog/2009/06/vinyl-sales-to-hit-another-high-point-in-2009.html" title="latimes.com" rel="nofollow">why are vinyl sales slowly rising</a> [latimes.com]?
 </p></div><p>Hipsters.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising [ latimes.com ] ?
Hipsters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising [latimes.com]?
Hipsters.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31550170</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>adolf</author>
	<datestamp>1269107700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TARW255-Dual-well-Tape/dp/B0009MFQ1C/ref=sr\_1\_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=electronics&amp;qid=1269103707&amp;sr=8-1" title="amazon.com">What</a> [amazon.com] <a href="http://www.woofersetc.com/p4048/KWXC410--JVC-CD-Cassette-Receiver-Combo-with-MP3-WMA-and-SAT-Radio-Ready.htm" title="woofersetc.com">do</a> [woofersetc.com] <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Walkman-Digital-Weather-Cassette/dp/B001407E86/ref=sr\_1\_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=electronics&amp;qid=1269103827&amp;sr=1-1" title="amazon.com">mean</a> [amazon.com] <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882105279&amp;cm\_re=cassette\_player-\_-82-105-279-\_-Product" title="newegg.com">when</a> [newegg.com] <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882898026&amp;cm\_re=cassette\_player-\_-82-898-026-\_-Product" title="newegg.com">you</a> [newegg.com] <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882898026&amp;cm\_re=cassette\_player-\_-82-898-026-\_-Product" title="newegg.com">say</a> [newegg.com] <a href="http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=cassette+deck&amp;cid=3230615850777611522&amp;sa=title#p" title="google.com">that</a> [google.com]?  <a href="http://www.crutchfield.com/app/product/search/searchresults.aspx?search=cassette&amp;ssi=0&amp;nvpair=FFCategory\%7C\%5Brank300\%5DCar+Receivers" title="crutchfield.com">Hmm</a> [crutchfield.com]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What [ amazon.com ] do [ woofersetc.com ] mean [ amazon.com ] when [ newegg.com ] you [ newegg.com ] say [ newegg.com ] that [ google.com ] ?
Hmm [ crutchfield.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What [amazon.com] do [woofersetc.com] mean [amazon.com] when [newegg.com] you [newegg.com] say [newegg.com] that [google.com]?
Hmm [crutchfield.com]?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537796</id>
	<title>Re:The business model isn't completely dead with t</title>
	<author>ZOmegaZ</author>
	<datestamp>1269014460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Weird Al Yankovic stated that he was happy for either avenue his customers used to buy music, but his take per track on iTunes was about two cents a track and his take on CDs was about 26 cents- which is pretty major if you want to support the artist.</p></div><p>

Of course, if you're buying tracks off the CDs they don't make any more, it's the difference between some profit and none.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Weird Al Yankovic stated that he was happy for either avenue his customers used to buy music , but his take per track on iTunes was about two cents a track and his take on CDs was about 26 cents- which is pretty major if you want to support the artist .
Of course , if you 're buying tracks off the CDs they do n't make any more , it 's the difference between some profit and none .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Weird Al Yankovic stated that he was happy for either avenue his customers used to buy music, but his take per track on iTunes was about two cents a track and his take on CDs was about 26 cents- which is pretty major if you want to support the artist.
Of course, if you're buying tracks off the CDs they don't make any more, it's the difference between some profit and none.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543678</id>
	<title>Re:Normal price here. And still way overpriced.</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1268992560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So in other words, the people who created music, produced it, marketed it, etc - they shouldn't get anything? It should simply be a matter of reproduction costs? I'm just having a hard time figuring out the premise for your argument.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So in other words , the people who created music , produced it , marketed it , etc - they should n't get anything ?
It should simply be a matter of reproduction costs ?
I 'm just having a hard time figuring out the premise for your argument .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So in other words, the people who created music, produced it, marketed it, etc - they shouldn't get anything?
It should simply be a matter of reproduction costs?
I'm just having a hard time figuring out the premise for your argument.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538668</id>
	<title>Surprise</title>
	<author>LtGordon</author>
	<datestamp>1269016560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>UMG to price new CDs Under $10</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>Single CDs will have the suggested list prices of $10, $9, $8,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>Which of these prices do you think will be most common? Kind of like how iTunes just had <i>tons</i> of those $0.69 songs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>UMG to price new CDs Under $ 10Single CDs will have the suggested list prices of $ 10 , $ 9 , $ 8 , ...Which of these prices do you think will be most common ?
Kind of like how iTunes just had tons of those $ 0.69 songs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UMG to price new CDs Under $10Single CDs will have the suggested list prices of $10, $9, $8, ...Which of these prices do you think will be most common?
Kind of like how iTunes just had tons of those $0.69 songs.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538852</id>
	<title>Changes to How We Listen to Music</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1269017100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For my brother who is about 10 years younger than me, gaining new music was a trivial matter.  Click &gt; Click &gt; Wait &gt; Enjoy.  All it costs him is the time it takes to start the download and space on a hard drive.</p><p>Back in my day all we had for fun was a cliff and we had to buy or steal CDs.  Do chores &gt; Get allowance &gt; take 45m train ride &gt; find CD &gt; come home &gt; enjoy.  Buying A meant not getting B (yet). If i didn't like A, i was still out the money.  For me it was a big deal, a decision rather than a mere choice.</p><p>i wonder how this colored the significance of music for us.  i don't know what it means or if it means anything at all.  From my perspective it seems considerable.  When you essentially have all the music ever made on your hard drive or a download away... it seems more disposable.  It's a bundle of file and folder names.  i look at my 300+ CDs and can almost feel what they cost me, i know when and where i bought them, i know what it feels like to move that damn shelf, the feeling of the case being cracked and the annoyance of the music skipping because the slot feeder has damaged it.</p><p>Anyone else thinking about this sort of thing.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/ties another onion to his belt</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For my brother who is about 10 years younger than me , gaining new music was a trivial matter .
Click &gt; Click &gt; Wait &gt; Enjoy .
All it costs him is the time it takes to start the download and space on a hard drive.Back in my day all we had for fun was a cliff and we had to buy or steal CDs .
Do chores &gt; Get allowance &gt; take 45m train ride &gt; find CD &gt; come home &gt; enjoy .
Buying A meant not getting B ( yet ) .
If i did n't like A , i was still out the money .
For me it was a big deal , a decision rather than a mere choice.i wonder how this colored the significance of music for us .
i do n't know what it means or if it means anything at all .
From my perspective it seems considerable .
When you essentially have all the music ever made on your hard drive or a download away... it seems more disposable .
It 's a bundle of file and folder names .
i look at my 300 + CDs and can almost feel what they cost me , i know when and where i bought them , i know what it feels like to move that damn shelf , the feeling of the case being cracked and the annoyance of the music skipping because the slot feeder has damaged it.Anyone else thinking about this sort of thing .
/ties another onion to his belt</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For my brother who is about 10 years younger than me, gaining new music was a trivial matter.
Click &gt; Click &gt; Wait &gt; Enjoy.
All it costs him is the time it takes to start the download and space on a hard drive.Back in my day all we had for fun was a cliff and we had to buy or steal CDs.
Do chores &gt; Get allowance &gt; take 45m train ride &gt; find CD &gt; come home &gt; enjoy.
Buying A meant not getting B (yet).
If i didn't like A, i was still out the money.
For me it was a big deal, a decision rather than a mere choice.i wonder how this colored the significance of music for us.
i don't know what it means or if it means anything at all.
From my perspective it seems considerable.
When you essentially have all the music ever made on your hard drive or a download away... it seems more disposable.
It's a bundle of file and folder names.
i look at my 300+ CDs and can almost feel what they cost me, i know when and where i bought them, i know what it feels like to move that damn shelf, the feeling of the case being cracked and the annoyance of the music skipping because the slot feeder has damaged it.Anyone else thinking about this sort of thing.
/ties another onion to his belt</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541242</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>ooshna</author>
	<datestamp>1269025320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thats a good thing.  If people actually buy CDs from UMG then other places will follow suit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats a good thing .
If people actually buy CDs from UMG then other places will follow suit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats a good thing.
If people actually buy CDs from UMG then other places will follow suit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538174</id>
	<title>Re:Normal price here. And still way overpriced.</title>
	<author>EvanED</author>
	<datestamp>1269015300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Still I think US$10 for a CD is overpriced. Pirated CD's are selling for well under USD 1 each. So that is a $9.something mark-up for what? Recording and artist's share?</i></p><p>Let me rephrase: "so that is a $9.something mark-up for what? Almost all of what went into producing the album?"</p><p>(Though of course both arguments are dumb because the artist gets so little, but it really isn't that pressing the CDs and distributions are supposed to be a substantial part of the cost.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Still I think US $ 10 for a CD is overpriced .
Pirated CD 's are selling for well under USD 1 each .
So that is a $ 9.something mark-up for what ?
Recording and artist 's share ? Let me rephrase : " so that is a $ 9.something mark-up for what ?
Almost all of what went into producing the album ?
" ( Though of course both arguments are dumb because the artist gets so little , but it really is n't that pressing the CDs and distributions are supposed to be a substantial part of the cost .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still I think US$10 for a CD is overpriced.
Pirated CD's are selling for well under USD 1 each.
So that is a $9.something mark-up for what?
Recording and artist's share?Let me rephrase: "so that is a $9.something mark-up for what?
Almost all of what went into producing the album?
"(Though of course both arguments are dumb because the artist gets so little, but it really isn't that pressing the CDs and distributions are supposed to be a substantial part of the cost.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538650</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>Duradin</author>
	<datestamp>1269016560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it is something I'll want to have around awhile and be able to easily shift formats, I'll buy the CD. Exceptions being when the music isn't available at reasonable prices (out of print, imports) for CD but are available at normal rates for download.</p><p>Like the Raiders of the Lost Ark and Temple of Doom soundtracks. The original CDs cost an arm and a leg and the recently re-issued versions changed up some of the tracks. E-Music had the import versions available for download and they were basically the original issue of the domestic versions.</p><p>If new CDs start out at $10 or less now I'll pretty much being only buying downloads for singles or absolute impulse buys, aside from my previously stated exceptions. Now if only they would include a re-release of the original Patton (and not the re-recording of it) soundtrack under this pricing scheme...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it is something I 'll want to have around awhile and be able to easily shift formats , I 'll buy the CD .
Exceptions being when the music is n't available at reasonable prices ( out of print , imports ) for CD but are available at normal rates for download.Like the Raiders of the Lost Ark and Temple of Doom soundtracks .
The original CDs cost an arm and a leg and the recently re-issued versions changed up some of the tracks .
E-Music had the import versions available for download and they were basically the original issue of the domestic versions.If new CDs start out at $ 10 or less now I 'll pretty much being only buying downloads for singles or absolute impulse buys , aside from my previously stated exceptions .
Now if only they would include a re-release of the original Patton ( and not the re-recording of it ) soundtrack under this pricing scheme.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it is something I'll want to have around awhile and be able to easily shift formats, I'll buy the CD.
Exceptions being when the music isn't available at reasonable prices (out of print, imports) for CD but are available at normal rates for download.Like the Raiders of the Lost Ark and Temple of Doom soundtracks.
The original CDs cost an arm and a leg and the recently re-issued versions changed up some of the tracks.
E-Music had the import versions available for download and they were basically the original issue of the domestic versions.If new CDs start out at $10 or less now I'll pretty much being only buying downloads for singles or absolute impulse buys, aside from my previously stated exceptions.
Now if only they would include a re-release of the original Patton (and not the re-recording of it) soundtrack under this pricing scheme...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539790</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269020160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> They're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded music</i></p><p>I guess you've never heard of or experienced CD rot? How many Nimbus pressed CDs still work without skipping?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded musicI guess you 've never heard of or experienced CD rot ?
How many Nimbus pressed CDs still work without skipping ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> They're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded musicI guess you've never heard of or experienced CD rot?
How many Nimbus pressed CDs still work without skipping?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536832</id>
	<title>Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1269012120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...when they still existed.  I remember having the option between a $13 CD or an $8 "inferior" cassette version, so I picked the cassette.  I didn't see why I should have to pay a $5 premium for the disc version.</p><p>Now it appears the same pricing has come to CDs.  Why pay $13 for a CD when I can just download my favorite 2-3 songs at about $3.   The internet is forcing music companies to drop the pricetag for the "inferior" CD format to about $8.</p><p>Why inferior?</p><p>CDs aren't portable.  And take-up a lot of space.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...when they still existed .
I remember having the option between a $ 13 CD or an $ 8 " inferior " cassette version , so I picked the cassette .
I did n't see why I should have to pay a $ 5 premium for the disc version.Now it appears the same pricing has come to CDs .
Why pay $ 13 for a CD when I can just download my favorite 2-3 songs at about $ 3 .
The internet is forcing music companies to drop the pricetag for the " inferior " CD format to about $ 8.Why inferior ? CDs are n't portable .
And take-up a lot of space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...when they still existed.
I remember having the option between a $13 CD or an $8 "inferior" cassette version, so I picked the cassette.
I didn't see why I should have to pay a $5 premium for the disc version.Now it appears the same pricing has come to CDs.
Why pay $13 for a CD when I can just download my favorite 2-3 songs at about $3.
The internet is forcing music companies to drop the pricetag for the "inferior" CD format to about $8.Why inferior?CDs aren't portable.
And take-up a lot of space.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543514</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1268991900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yeah, that sounds really worth the extra money. I have barely any space to store my DVDs and blu-rays in my flat right now. I'm glad I could shove all my CDs into my mum's attic. I</p></div><p>Might be doing it wrong -- you don't need jewel cases, just toss 'em out and stick everything in CD books (which also work for DVDs and games).   We turned a ton of CD jewel cases into 6 thick books and saved a ton of space; and we're currently going through the same process for DVDs/BD.  (The books are now in either one or two boxes in the basement storage.)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>don't see anything empowering about needing to keep highly inefficient backups of what is essentially just something you want to hear - not something you need to look at or touch.</p></div><p>By following the above, it's not particularly inefficient.  I guess you would be better off by ripping to lossless and burning lossless to BD, but having physical storage kept separate from your single hard drive copy is not a Bad Thing to do.  Of course, it gets easier still if you're not concerned with lossless.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , that sounds really worth the extra money .
I have barely any space to store my DVDs and blu-rays in my flat right now .
I 'm glad I could shove all my CDs into my mum 's attic .
IMight be doing it wrong -- you do n't need jewel cases , just toss 'em out and stick everything in CD books ( which also work for DVDs and games ) .
We turned a ton of CD jewel cases into 6 thick books and saved a ton of space ; and we 're currently going through the same process for DVDs/BD .
( The books are now in either one or two boxes in the basement storage .
) do n't see anything empowering about needing to keep highly inefficient backups of what is essentially just something you want to hear - not something you need to look at or touch.By following the above , it 's not particularly inefficient .
I guess you would be better off by ripping to lossless and burning lossless to BD , but having physical storage kept separate from your single hard drive copy is not a Bad Thing to do .
Of course , it gets easier still if you 're not concerned with lossless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, that sounds really worth the extra money.
I have barely any space to store my DVDs and blu-rays in my flat right now.
I'm glad I could shove all my CDs into my mum's attic.
IMight be doing it wrong -- you don't need jewel cases, just toss 'em out and stick everything in CD books (which also work for DVDs and games).
We turned a ton of CD jewel cases into 6 thick books and saved a ton of space; and we're currently going through the same process for DVDs/BD.
(The books are now in either one or two boxes in the basement storage.
)don't see anything empowering about needing to keep highly inefficient backups of what is essentially just something you want to hear - not something you need to look at or touch.By following the above, it's not particularly inefficient.
I guess you would be better off by ripping to lossless and burning lossless to BD, but having physical storage kept separate from your single hard drive copy is not a Bad Thing to do.
Of course, it gets easier still if you're not concerned with lossless.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537576</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The way I see it, this is nothing more than a move to put them in a position to point a finger at music pirates and claim that illegal downloading is still costing them millions. This isn't about them making the music more affordable or reasonably priced. In a few months time, they'll come back with "People told us they pirate music because the legal channel is priced too high. So we lowered the price of CDs, but omg look - CD sales haven't gone up at all and they're still pirating our music!! We *must* use DRM and sue everybody in arm's reach to regain control!!!1!".</p><p>The companies are still thinking in terms of "CDs are the norm, digital downloads are an added convenience". This is false. Digital downloads are now the norm, CDs are left for collectors and the rare few who just like to own the physical media containing album art and inserts. The way I see it, a CD is a premium service that should cost more to have mailed to you. Digital downloads should be seen as the primary channel for distribution, and CDs are moot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The way I see it , this is nothing more than a move to put them in a position to point a finger at music pirates and claim that illegal downloading is still costing them millions .
This is n't about them making the music more affordable or reasonably priced .
In a few months time , they 'll come back with " People told us they pirate music because the legal channel is priced too high .
So we lowered the price of CDs , but omg look - CD sales have n't gone up at all and they 're still pirating our music ! !
We * must * use DRM and sue everybody in arm 's reach to regain control ! ! ! 1 !
" .The companies are still thinking in terms of " CDs are the norm , digital downloads are an added convenience " .
This is false .
Digital downloads are now the norm , CDs are left for collectors and the rare few who just like to own the physical media containing album art and inserts .
The way I see it , a CD is a premium service that should cost more to have mailed to you .
Digital downloads should be seen as the primary channel for distribution , and CDs are moot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The way I see it, this is nothing more than a move to put them in a position to point a finger at music pirates and claim that illegal downloading is still costing them millions.
This isn't about them making the music more affordable or reasonably priced.
In a few months time, they'll come back with "People told us they pirate music because the legal channel is priced too high.
So we lowered the price of CDs, but omg look - CD sales haven't gone up at all and they're still pirating our music!!
We *must* use DRM and sue everybody in arm's reach to regain control!!!1!
".The companies are still thinking in terms of "CDs are the norm, digital downloads are an added convenience".
This is false.
Digital downloads are now the norm, CDs are left for collectors and the rare few who just like to own the physical media containing album art and inserts.
The way I see it, a CD is a premium service that should cost more to have mailed to you.
Digital downloads should be seen as the primary channel for distribution, and CDs are moot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31546942</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1269014400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I grew up listening to music over the radio and via MP3s (I'm in my late teens now), and I still prefer FLAC over any lossy format. When I first came across FLAC I did a comparison and it's amazing how much more detail you can hear compared to MP3.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I grew up listening to music over the radio and via MP3s ( I 'm in my late teens now ) , and I still prefer FLAC over any lossy format .
When I first came across FLAC I did a comparison and it 's amazing how much more detail you can hear compared to MP3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I grew up listening to music over the radio and via MP3s (I'm in my late teens now), and I still prefer FLAC over any lossy format.
When I first came across FLAC I did a comparison and it's amazing how much more detail you can hear compared to MP3.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537272</id>
	<title>Good job guys</title>
	<author>Taibhsear</author>
	<datestamp>1269013140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to the 21st century. <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/record-labels-sued-in-america-for-cd-price-fixing-697519.html" title="independent.co.uk">*cough*</a> [independent.co.uk]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the 21st century .
* cough * [ independent.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the 21st century.
*cough* [independent.co.uk]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31542982</id>
	<title>Remember when CDs first came out?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268989860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone else remember when CDs first came out they were 12.99.  People wanted to know why something that cost less to produce than a cassette tape cost more to purchase, and the industry was promising that prices would drop to 10 or below after they paid for the new manufacturing setups?</p><p>Yeah. F-You recording industry.  Making enemies of your customers is what brought you to where you are today.  I will dance happily on your grave.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone else remember when CDs first came out they were 12.99 .
People wanted to know why something that cost less to produce than a cassette tape cost more to purchase , and the industry was promising that prices would drop to 10 or below after they paid for the new manufacturing setups ? Yeah .
F-You recording industry .
Making enemies of your customers is what brought you to where you are today .
I will dance happily on your grave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone else remember when CDs first came out they were 12.99.
People wanted to know why something that cost less to produce than a cassette tape cost more to purchase, and the industry was promising that prices would drop to 10 or below after they paid for the new manufacturing setups?Yeah.
F-You recording industry.
Making enemies of your customers is what brought you to where you are today.
I will dance happily on your grave.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543160</id>
	<title>Re:price fixing?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268990700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are realizing that you are talking about a group of people who can&rsquo;t do a business deal without hookers and drugs, are you? ^^ (I know that this is de-facto true because of my old job.)</p><p>Some price fixing will be their smallest problem if they get caught.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are realizing that you are talking about a group of people who can    t do a business deal without hookers and drugs , are you ?
^ ^ ( I know that this is de-facto true because of my old job .
) Some price fixing will be their smallest problem if they get caught .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are realizing that you are talking about a group of people who can’t do a business deal without hookers and drugs, are you?
^^ (I know that this is de-facto true because of my old job.
)Some price fixing will be their smallest problem if they get caught.
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540452</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>umghhh</author>
	<datestamp>1269022320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think there must be some confusion here. <p>Not sure how this works in US but in Europe at least the lawyers have discovered new paradise - mass produced requests to settle or face court case are being produced to get easy money although <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8570913.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">not all</a> [bbc.co.uk] agree with this approach but it still works fine, Why bothering with actually selling stuff? Threaten to sue whoever looks like prospective customer of hard pr0n and you can be sure money will flow. How nice that legal system of big European countries (the same happens in Germany from what I know) go along.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think there must be some confusion here .
Not sure how this works in US but in Europe at least the lawyers have discovered new paradise - mass produced requests to settle or face court case are being produced to get easy money although not all [ bbc.co.uk ] agree with this approach but it still works fine , Why bothering with actually selling stuff ?
Threaten to sue whoever looks like prospective customer of hard pr0n and you can be sure money will flow .
How nice that legal system of big European countries ( the same happens in Germany from what I know ) go along .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think there must be some confusion here.
Not sure how this works in US but in Europe at least the lawyers have discovered new paradise - mass produced requests to settle or face court case are being produced to get easy money although not all [bbc.co.uk] agree with this approach but it still works fine, Why bothering with actually selling stuff?
Threaten to sue whoever looks like prospective customer of hard pr0n and you can be sure money will flow.
How nice that legal system of big European countries (the same happens in Germany from what I know) go along.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543682</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>vertinox</author>
	<datestamp>1268992620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.</i></p><p>I recently went into a local indie record store a few months ago and saw a stack of new cassette tapes for sale at the register.</p><p>And I was like: "Hah! Did someone find these in an old factory somewhere unopened?"<br>Indie store guy: "No, these are brand new from a local artist."<br>Me: "Ummm... Why?"<br>Indie store guy: "Yeah its a new hot trend for local bands to make cassette tapes now instead of releasing them on CD or Vinyl"<br>Me: "Ok... But can you even buy cassette players anymore?"<br>Indie store guy: "Nope. But they still sell for some reason amoung the hipsters."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.I recently went into a local indie record store a few months ago and saw a stack of new cassette tapes for sale at the register.And I was like : " Hah !
Did someone find these in an old factory somewhere unopened ?
" Indie store guy : " No , these are brand new from a local artist .
" Me : " Ummm.. .
Why ? " Indie store guy : " Yeah its a new hot trend for local bands to make cassette tapes now instead of releasing them on CD or Vinyl " Me : " Ok... But can you even buy cassette players anymore ?
" Indie store guy : " Nope .
But they still sell for some reason amoung the hipsters .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.I recently went into a local indie record store a few months ago and saw a stack of new cassette tapes for sale at the register.And I was like: "Hah!
Did someone find these in an old factory somewhere unopened?
"Indie store guy: "No, these are brand new from a local artist.
"Me: "Ummm...
Why?"Indie store guy: "Yeah its a new hot trend for local bands to make cassette tapes now instead of releasing them on CD or Vinyl"Me: "Ok... But can you even buy cassette players anymore?
"Indie store guy: "Nope.
But they still sell for some reason amoung the hipsters.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537356</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Maxo-Texas</author>
	<datestamp>1269013320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CD's are much prettier coasters after you burn them in the microwave.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CD 's are much prettier coasters after you burn them in the microwave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CD's are much prettier coasters after you burn them in the microwave.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541944</id>
	<title>Re:Premium vs Discount Format</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1269028440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The CD has not been the premium product for years. Recall that one reason the CD became so popular was that was smaller and would last longer than an LP. Some people say the CD sounded better, but there were certainly arguments when dealing with new quality recording played on good equipment.  Many would say the LP was better.  There were other losses like the shrinkage of cover art, but we dealt with the perceived losses and increased prices because the CD was simply so convenient.  It was even more convenient than tapes.  And the price was somewhat justified with increased content.
<p>
The MP3 meets all the measures we used to make the CD the premium product.  The format is smaller and lasts indefinitely.  The CD may sound better on quality equipment, but few people have full stereo systems anymore. I see no kids spending the thousand or so I did on a CD player, amp, and speakers.
The standard is an iPod.
</p><p>
The issue was not that the MP3 was not the premium product, I think it has been for at least five years, but that no one could figure out how to charge a premium price for it.  So CDs have and will likely stay around in the way vinyl did not if for no reason that labels can make money off it and it is a two step process to copy.  As long as computer have drives that can read the CD, the format will stay.  When they go I do not see a revival as we have seen with LP, as the CD really has no acoustic advantages, and the recording on most CDs were not tailored the way there were on the LP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The CD has not been the premium product for years .
Recall that one reason the CD became so popular was that was smaller and would last longer than an LP .
Some people say the CD sounded better , but there were certainly arguments when dealing with new quality recording played on good equipment .
Many would say the LP was better .
There were other losses like the shrinkage of cover art , but we dealt with the perceived losses and increased prices because the CD was simply so convenient .
It was even more convenient than tapes .
And the price was somewhat justified with increased content .
The MP3 meets all the measures we used to make the CD the premium product .
The format is smaller and lasts indefinitely .
The CD may sound better on quality equipment , but few people have full stereo systems anymore .
I see no kids spending the thousand or so I did on a CD player , amp , and speakers .
The standard is an iPod .
The issue was not that the MP3 was not the premium product , I think it has been for at least five years , but that no one could figure out how to charge a premium price for it .
So CDs have and will likely stay around in the way vinyl did not if for no reason that labels can make money off it and it is a two step process to copy .
As long as computer have drives that can read the CD , the format will stay .
When they go I do not see a revival as we have seen with LP , as the CD really has no acoustic advantages , and the recording on most CDs were not tailored the way there were on the LP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The CD has not been the premium product for years.
Recall that one reason the CD became so popular was that was smaller and would last longer than an LP.
Some people say the CD sounded better, but there were certainly arguments when dealing with new quality recording played on good equipment.
Many would say the LP was better.
There were other losses like the shrinkage of cover art, but we dealt with the perceived losses and increased prices because the CD was simply so convenient.
It was even more convenient than tapes.
And the price was somewhat justified with increased content.
The MP3 meets all the measures we used to make the CD the premium product.
The format is smaller and lasts indefinitely.
The CD may sound better on quality equipment, but few people have full stereo systems anymore.
I see no kids spending the thousand or so I did on a CD player, amp, and speakers.
The standard is an iPod.
The issue was not that the MP3 was not the premium product, I think it has been for at least five years, but that no one could figure out how to charge a premium price for it.
So CDs have and will likely stay around in the way vinyl did not if for no reason that labels can make money off it and it is a two step process to copy.
As long as computer have drives that can read the CD, the format will stay.
When they go I do not see a revival as we have seen with LP, as the CD really has no acoustic advantages, and the recording on most CDs were not tailored the way there were on the LP.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536724</id>
	<title>Shocking</title>
	<author>kseise</author>
	<datestamp>1269011880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>You mean it doesn't cost $20.00 to make a CD?  Really?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean it does n't cost $ 20.00 to make a CD ?
Really ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean it doesn't cost $20.00 to make a CD?
Really?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31548096</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Hadlock</author>
	<datestamp>1269077280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> But before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.</p></div></blockquote><p>On the flip side, there are some of us who think large collections of useless, shiny baubles are gaudy and take up too much space. Don't get me wrong, my buddy has two DVD-bookshelves *full* of DVDs he's never even opened, but he's ok with that because it's his "collection" and they're *his*. On the flip side, some of us just want to be able to turn on their music player and hear something good.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But before you go on about how 'quaint ' CDs are , keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.On the flip side , there are some of us who think large collections of useless , shiny baubles are gaudy and take up too much space .
Do n't get me wrong , my buddy has two DVD-bookshelves * full * of DVDs he 's never even opened , but he 's ok with that because it 's his " collection " and they 're * his * .
On the flip side , some of us just want to be able to turn on their music player and hear something good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> But before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.On the flip side, there are some of us who think large collections of useless, shiny baubles are gaudy and take up too much space.
Don't get me wrong, my buddy has two DVD-bookshelves *full* of DVDs he's never even opened, but he's ok with that because it's his "collection" and they're *his*.
On the flip side, some of us just want to be able to turn on their music player and hear something good.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538544</id>
	<title>Re:What's the first thing you would do with a CD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269016260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I probably wouldn't even burn it. To do so would mean having to dig through my pile of spares and try to rig up an old optical drive via IDE-USB adaptor (because folding the IDE ribbon to connect it directly would leave the drive upside down).<br>
&nbsp; <br>Seriously, the first thing I would do on being given a music CD would be to torrent its contents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I probably would n't even burn it .
To do so would mean having to dig through my pile of spares and try to rig up an old optical drive via IDE-USB adaptor ( because folding the IDE ribbon to connect it directly would leave the drive upside down ) .
  Seriously , the first thing I would do on being given a music CD would be to torrent its contents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I probably wouldn't even burn it.
To do so would mean having to dig through my pile of spares and try to rig up an old optical drive via IDE-USB adaptor (because folding the IDE ribbon to connect it directly would leave the drive upside down).
  Seriously, the first thing I would do on being given a music CD would be to torrent its contents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539944</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Inda</author>
	<datestamp>1269020640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slightly off topic but I would have bought the $13 CD, copied it the a chrome metal cassette because the quality achieved was better than the $8 inferior version.<br><br>You reap what you sow and judging the quality of music my daughter listens too, the harvest is poor.<br><br>"Dig up stupid"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slightly off topic but I would have bought the $ 13 CD , copied it the a chrome metal cassette because the quality achieved was better than the $ 8 inferior version.You reap what you sow and judging the quality of music my daughter listens too , the harvest is poor .
" Dig up stupid "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slightly off topic but I would have bought the $13 CD, copied it the a chrome metal cassette because the quality achieved was better than the $8 inferior version.You reap what you sow and judging the quality of music my daughter listens too, the harvest is poor.
"Dig up stupid"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543300</id>
	<title>Re:Shocking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268991060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you check the "Post Anonymously" box, it'll still undo the moderation.  Coulda saved yourself from getting an offtopic from a stupid moderator.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you check the " Post Anonymously " box , it 'll still undo the moderation .
Coulda saved yourself from getting an offtopic from a stupid moderator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you check the "Post Anonymously" box, it'll still undo the moderation.
Coulda saved yourself from getting an offtopic from a stupid moderator.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536748</id>
	<title>CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>gestalt\_n\_pepper</author>
	<datestamp>1269011940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember CDs. They made such pretty coffee coasters after I burned all their music to my MP3 player.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember CDs .
They made such pretty coffee coasters after I burned all their music to my MP3 player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember CDs.
They made such pretty coffee coasters after I burned all their music to my MP3 player.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31544870</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268997960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you consider moving your entire collection around they aren't very portable. If your really serious about music you might have 1000 CD's in jewl cases. Sure a handful of CD's are portable but considering that you can fit an mp3 player in your pocket that holds your entire collection, CD's really aren't that portable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you consider moving your entire collection around they are n't very portable .
If your really serious about music you might have 1000 CD 's in jewl cases .
Sure a handful of CD 's are portable but considering that you can fit an mp3 player in your pocket that holds your entire collection , CD 's really are n't that portable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you consider moving your entire collection around they aren't very portable.
If your really serious about music you might have 1000 CD's in jewl cases.
Sure a handful of CD's are portable but considering that you can fit an mp3 player in your pocket that holds your entire collection, CD's really aren't that portable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543400</id>
	<title>burn?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268991420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why on earth do you guys call "burn" to the process of "un-burning" media from a CD??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why on earth do you guys call " burn " to the process of " un-burning " media from a CD ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why on earth do you guys call "burn" to the process of "un-burning" media from a CD?
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538944</id>
	<title>Re:What's the first thing you would do with a CD?</title>
	<author>Nethemas the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1269017400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think I'd go find a milk jug lid and a microwave and watch the pretty light show as the disc goes round and round...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think I 'd go find a milk jug lid and a microwave and watch the pretty light show as the disc goes round and round.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think I'd go find a milk jug lid and a microwave and watch the pretty light show as the disc goes round and round...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536914</id>
	<title>What's the first thing you would do with a CD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269012300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>If given a music CD, what would be the first thing you'd do with it? Play it or burn it? (Or give it back with an apology of "this is not a format I support any more"?)</htmltext>
<tokenext>If given a music CD , what would be the first thing you 'd do with it ?
Play it or burn it ?
( Or give it back with an apology of " this is not a format I support any more " ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If given a music CD, what would be the first thing you'd do with it?
Play it or burn it?
(Or give it back with an apology of "this is not a format I support any more"?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538486</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1269016080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't own it then either.  You're renting a license to listen to it for as long as you own the object.  i know what you mean though.  If i don't have a "hard copy" of it, it's just fluff on a hard drive.</p><p>Verses of a song.  Chuck versus the MP3 Player.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't own it then either .
You 're renting a license to listen to it for as long as you own the object .
i know what you mean though .
If i do n't have a " hard copy " of it , it 's just fluff on a hard drive.Verses of a song .
Chuck versus the MP3 Player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't own it then either.
You're renting a license to listen to it for as long as you own the object.
i know what you mean though.
If i don't have a "hard copy" of it, it's just fluff on a hard drive.Verses of a song.
Chuck versus the MP3 Player.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537966</id>
	<title>Re:0$</title>
	<author>NeoSkandranon</author>
	<datestamp>1269014940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Many of us place a nonzero value on being a mature adult and either paying for entertainment we consume or abstaining altogether.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many of us place a nonzero value on being a mature adult and either paying for entertainment we consume or abstaining altogether .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many of us place a nonzero value on being a mature adult and either paying for entertainment we consume or abstaining altogether.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538472</id>
	<title>Re:What's the first thing you would do with a CD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269016020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(Or give it back with an apology of "this is not a format I support any more"?)</p></div><p>I think I'll choose the not-douchebag answer that doesn't make me confrontational towards public conventions just for the sake of being a confrontational douchebag, thank you very much.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( Or give it back with an apology of " this is not a format I support any more " ?
) I think I 'll choose the not-douchebag answer that does n't make me confrontational towards public conventions just for the sake of being a confrontational douchebag , thank you very much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(Or give it back with an apology of "this is not a format I support any more"?
)I think I'll choose the not-douchebag answer that doesn't make me confrontational towards public conventions just for the sake of being a confrontational douchebag, thank you very much.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537542</id>
	<title>Re:0$</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That $0 comes with a !=0 chance of a six figure lawsuit attached.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That $ 0 comes with a ! = 0 chance of a six figure lawsuit attached .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That $0 comes with a !=0 chance of a six figure lawsuit attached.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537162</id>
	<title>Re:It only took a decade or so...</title>
	<author>HeckRuler</author>
	<datestamp>1269012840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not so much in the long run when you've got a monopoply of a few oligarchs who all collude to keep prices high. Now that one of the prisoners has come face to face with his dilema, he's breaking ranks and diving for some quick cheap cash.<p><div class="quote"><p>Of course, it's also possible that the music quality will just decline to compensate for the drop in price.</p></div><p>HAHAHAHAHA, oh that's a good one. A decline in music quality? You think that corporate profits influence musicians in ANY way? And I don't think that the quality of pop music has to drop very far before it becomes noise.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not so much in the long run when you 've got a monopoply of a few oligarchs who all collude to keep prices high .
Now that one of the prisoners has come face to face with his dilema , he 's breaking ranks and diving for some quick cheap cash.Of course , it 's also possible that the music quality will just decline to compensate for the drop in price.HAHAHAHAHA , oh that 's a good one .
A decline in music quality ?
You think that corporate profits influence musicians in ANY way ?
And I do n't think that the quality of pop music has to drop very far before it becomes noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not so much in the long run when you've got a monopoply of a few oligarchs who all collude to keep prices high.
Now that one of the prisoners has come face to face with his dilema, he's breaking ranks and diving for some quick cheap cash.Of course, it's also possible that the music quality will just decline to compensate for the drop in price.HAHAHAHAHA, oh that's a good one.
A decline in music quality?
You think that corporate profits influence musicians in ANY way?
And I don't think that the quality of pop music has to drop very far before it becomes noise.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536970</id>
	<title>How much for the artists ?</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1269012420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sell them $99 or $0.01, I am not willing to pay for middlemen more than the final artist will get. I think I'll wait for flattr.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sell them $ 99 or $ 0.01 , I am not willing to pay for middlemen more than the final artist will get .
I think I 'll wait for flattr .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sell them $99 or $0.01, I am not willing to pay for middlemen more than the final artist will get.
I think I'll wait for flattr.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537620</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you find this concept quaint then <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music\_blog/2009/06/vinyl-sales-to-hit-another-high-point-in-2009.html" title="latimes.com">why are vinyl sales slowly rising</a> [latimes.com]?</p></div><p>Probably for the same reason that <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/03/11/153205/Young-People-Prefer-Sizzle-Sounds-of-MP3-Format" title="slashdot.org">young people prefer MP3s to higher quality music.</a> [slashdot.org] People grow up listening to music in a certain way and the cracks and pops of vinyls, much in the same way as the sizzle sounds of MP3s, are what the listener expects to hear in the music. Because they expect to hear it, the music doesn't sound "right" when they hear high quality recordings without it. So now that baby boomers are reaching retirement age, they look back at what they loved when they are younger and buy old vinyls.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising [ latimes.com ] ? Probably for the same reason that young people prefer MP3s to higher quality music .
[ slashdot.org ] People grow up listening to music in a certain way and the cracks and pops of vinyls , much in the same way as the sizzle sounds of MP3s , are what the listener expects to hear in the music .
Because they expect to hear it , the music does n't sound " right " when they hear high quality recordings without it .
So now that baby boomers are reaching retirement age , they look back at what they loved when they are younger and buy old vinyls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising [latimes.com]?Probably for the same reason that young people prefer MP3s to higher quality music.
[slashdot.org] People grow up listening to music in a certain way and the cracks and pops of vinyls, much in the same way as the sizzle sounds of MP3s, are what the listener expects to hear in the music.
Because they expect to hear it, the music doesn't sound "right" when they hear high quality recordings without it.
So now that baby boomers are reaching retirement age, they look back at what they loved when they are younger and buy old vinyls.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538908</id>
	<title>Track count? Playing time?</title>
	<author>dpbsmith</author>
	<datestamp>1269017280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder whether it will turn out that these CDs have subpar track counts and playing time.</p><p>In the very early days of CDs it was common for a CD to have the same tracks and playing time as its LP counterpart--about forty minutes, tops. The days of the 72-minute de facto standard didn't come until much later.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder whether it will turn out that these CDs have subpar track counts and playing time.In the very early days of CDs it was common for a CD to have the same tracks and playing time as its LP counterpart--about forty minutes , tops .
The days of the 72-minute de facto standard did n't come until much later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder whether it will turn out that these CDs have subpar track counts and playing time.In the very early days of CDs it was common for a CD to have the same tracks and playing time as its LP counterpart--about forty minutes, tops.
The days of the 72-minute de facto standard didn't come until much later.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538038</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269015060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Digital downloads will be the primary choice as soon as the quality is on par with CDs. (ie, lossless compression)</p><p>Otherwise, downloads are fine for that one song or two to see if you like it, but mostly they still fail on decent audio equipment for regular listening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Digital downloads will be the primary choice as soon as the quality is on par with CDs .
( ie , lossless compression ) Otherwise , downloads are fine for that one song or two to see if you like it , but mostly they still fail on decent audio equipment for regular listening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Digital downloads will be the primary choice as soon as the quality is on par with CDs.
(ie, lossless compression)Otherwise, downloads are fine for that one song or two to see if you like it, but mostly they still fail on decent audio equipment for regular listening.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537898</id>
	<title>Re:What's the first thing you would do with a CD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269014760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I normally just torrent the album any way. Saves having to install a program to rip the CD and messing about getting the encoding right. In fact I have normally already downloaded the album and decided that it is worth buying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I normally just torrent the album any way .
Saves having to install a program to rip the CD and messing about getting the encoding right .
In fact I have normally already downloaded the album and decided that it is worth buying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I normally just torrent the album any way.
Saves having to install a program to rip the CD and messing about getting the encoding right.
In fact I have normally already downloaded the album and decided that it is worth buying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537116</id>
	<title>Re:It only took a decade or so...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269012780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...under certain circumstances it is actually possible to make more money when each individual unit is priced lower.</p></div><p>Case in point, look at what happened when Valve temporarily slashed the price on Left 4 Dead a while back - from full retail price down to $15-20, IIRC. Sales that weekend <i>skyrocketed</i>. The price point hit that impulse-buy sweet spot, where even if it turned out to suck, or you play it just a couple times and forget about it, no big loss. The same sure as hell applies to music. Few things burn like paying $15 for a single decent track, but a sub-$10 burn I can live with.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...under certain circumstances it is actually possible to make more money when each individual unit is priced lower.Case in point , look at what happened when Valve temporarily slashed the price on Left 4 Dead a while back - from full retail price down to $ 15-20 , IIRC .
Sales that weekend skyrocketed .
The price point hit that impulse-buy sweet spot , where even if it turned out to suck , or you play it just a couple times and forget about it , no big loss .
The same sure as hell applies to music .
Few things burn like paying $ 15 for a single decent track , but a sub- $ 10 burn I can live with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...under certain circumstances it is actually possible to make more money when each individual unit is priced lower.Case in point, look at what happened when Valve temporarily slashed the price on Left 4 Dead a while back - from full retail price down to $15-20, IIRC.
Sales that weekend skyrocketed.
The price point hit that impulse-buy sweet spot, where even if it turned out to suck, or you play it just a couple times and forget about it, no big loss.
The same sure as hell applies to music.
Few things burn like paying $15 for a single decent track, but a sub-$10 burn I can live with.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541144</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>jafac</author>
	<datestamp>1269024900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given that I've "lost" several tracks now to Apple's DRM, (and my own platform mobility - go figure, I use several computers, have upgraded over the years, even *gasp* forgot my iTMS account password! God forbid I should shop at one store a few times, decide I don't like them, and stop shopping there, yet desire to continue using the product I purchased.) - given that, I paid $.99, I don't feel like paying the extra "price" of having to rip a downloaded<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.MP3 to a blank CD in AIFF format, re-ripping it (losing audio quality in the process) just to make the track transferrable. . .</p><p>Also, given that I now have TWO acquaintances who I've had to console over lost music libraries; failed hard drives with no backup. . .</p><p>- I think I'll keep my library of "quaint" Audio CD disks.</p><p>Downloading is no cheaper, it is only more convenient at the Point of Purchase, and is less convenient thereafter, and product quality is lower.  Which has pretty much been my argument since 1996.</p><p>I figured they'd win me over when downloads were $.05.  They almost had me with iPods though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that I 've " lost " several tracks now to Apple 's DRM , ( and my own platform mobility - go figure , I use several computers , have upgraded over the years , even * gasp * forgot my iTMS account password !
God forbid I should shop at one store a few times , decide I do n't like them , and stop shopping there , yet desire to continue using the product I purchased .
) - given that , I paid $ .99 , I do n't feel like paying the extra " price " of having to rip a downloaded .MP3 to a blank CD in AIFF format , re-ripping it ( losing audio quality in the process ) just to make the track transferrable .
. .Also , given that I now have TWO acquaintances who I 've had to console over lost music libraries ; failed hard drives with no backup .
. .- I think I 'll keep my library of " quaint " Audio CD disks.Downloading is no cheaper , it is only more convenient at the Point of Purchase , and is less convenient thereafter , and product quality is lower .
Which has pretty much been my argument since 1996.I figured they 'd win me over when downloads were $ .05 .
They almost had me with iPods though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that I've "lost" several tracks now to Apple's DRM, (and my own platform mobility - go figure, I use several computers, have upgraded over the years, even *gasp* forgot my iTMS account password!
God forbid I should shop at one store a few times, decide I don't like them, and stop shopping there, yet desire to continue using the product I purchased.
) - given that, I paid $.99, I don't feel like paying the extra "price" of having to rip a downloaded .MP3 to a blank CD in AIFF format, re-ripping it (losing audio quality in the process) just to make the track transferrable.
. .Also, given that I now have TWO acquaintances who I've had to console over lost music libraries; failed hard drives with no backup.
. .- I think I'll keep my library of "quaint" Audio CD disks.Downloading is no cheaper, it is only more convenient at the Point of Purchase, and is less convenient thereafter, and product quality is lower.
Which has pretty much been my argument since 1996.I figured they'd win me over when downloads were $.05.
They almost had me with iPods though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539156</id>
	<title>Re:It only took a decade or so...</title>
	<author>pangu</author>
	<datestamp>1269018060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Of course, it's also possible that the music quality will just decline to compensate for the drop in price.</p></div></blockquote><p>No, it will not, because it can't decline.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , it 's also possible that the music quality will just decline to compensate for the drop in price.No , it will not , because it ca n't decline .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, it's also possible that the music quality will just decline to compensate for the drop in price.No, it will not, because it can't decline.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543106</id>
	<title>What is a CD?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268990400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Were they these silvery disks from the last millennium?</p><p>I don&rsquo;t have a player or even a drive for those anymore. Seriously. Does anyone still buy those?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Were they these silvery disks from the last millennium ? I don    t have a player or even a drive for those anymore .
Seriously. Does anyone still buy those ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Were they these silvery disks from the last millennium?I don’t have a player or even a drive for those anymore.
Seriously. Does anyone still buy those?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537424</id>
	<title>'Single' CD's? What are those(Must be getting old)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do they mean like a regular album? Did they ever release singles that are the equivalent of 45rpm records? <i>Don't look at me like that.</i></p><p>Did they ever release a single song CD to promote the song as a single? Maybe that partly explains why they missed the boat. They were saying buy the whole thing, can't have just a taste for under $5. Hello, anybody home. This is the 80s calling, we want our business model back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do they mean like a regular album ?
Did they ever release singles that are the equivalent of 45rpm records ?
Do n't look at me like that.Did they ever release a single song CD to promote the song as a single ?
Maybe that partly explains why they missed the boat .
They were saying buy the whole thing , ca n't have just a taste for under $ 5 .
Hello , anybody home .
This is the 80s calling , we want our business model back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do they mean like a regular album?
Did they ever release singles that are the equivalent of 45rpm records?
Don't look at me like that.Did they ever release a single song CD to promote the song as a single?
Maybe that partly explains why they missed the boat.
They were saying buy the whole thing, can't have just a taste for under $5.
Hello, anybody home.
This is the 80s calling, we want our business model back.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541272</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269025440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being a nerd, I don't jog (shamefully), but I do spend a lot of time at school doing math and science homework for at least 4 hours. I rarely ever bring any portable music players, but occasionally I might borrow an MP3 player or CD player. Even with impending crushing boredom, I wind up listening to less than 70 minutes of music. I just makes my head hurt and I have the volume low. And I listen to a lot of music at home (with speakers).</p><p>There is the advantage of the MP3 player not skipping while jogging, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being a nerd , I do n't jog ( shamefully ) , but I do spend a lot of time at school doing math and science homework for at least 4 hours .
I rarely ever bring any portable music players , but occasionally I might borrow an MP3 player or CD player .
Even with impending crushing boredom , I wind up listening to less than 70 minutes of music .
I just makes my head hurt and I have the volume low .
And I listen to a lot of music at home ( with speakers ) .There is the advantage of the MP3 player not skipping while jogging , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being a nerd, I don't jog (shamefully), but I do spend a lot of time at school doing math and science homework for at least 4 hours.
I rarely ever bring any portable music players, but occasionally I might borrow an MP3 player or CD player.
Even with impending crushing boredom, I wind up listening to less than 70 minutes of music.
I just makes my head hurt and I have the volume low.
And I listen to a lot of music at home (with speakers).There is the advantage of the MP3 player not skipping while jogging, though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543626</id>
	<title>Re:How much for the artists ?</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1268992380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sell them $99 or $0.01, I am not willing to pay for middlemen more than the final artist will get. I think I'll wait for flattr.</p></div><p>So even though the artist agrees to have the middleman manage this and even receive the lion's share of the money, it doesn't matter?  It's not the artist's right to do that?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sell them $ 99 or $ 0.01 , I am not willing to pay for middlemen more than the final artist will get .
I think I 'll wait for flattr.So even though the artist agrees to have the middleman manage this and even receive the lion 's share of the money , it does n't matter ?
It 's not the artist 's right to do that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sell them $99 or $0.01, I am not willing to pay for middlemen more than the final artist will get.
I think I'll wait for flattr.So even though the artist agrees to have the middleman manage this and even receive the lion's share of the money, it doesn't matter?
It's not the artist's right to do that?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537616</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Animaether</author>
	<datestamp>1269013980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>why are vinyl sales slowly rising?</p></div></blockquote><p>In my view, from the situation in NL:<br>A. People like you who want to have something physical even though you "don't even have to take the album out of its wrapper".  Which means it's going where, exactly?  On the wall?  Into a filing cabinet of some sort?  A box in the attic?  I suppose maybe 50 years down the road if the indie band got big the vinyl might hold some great resale value, especially if it's still in mint wrapped condition.  I guess that might form a sub-section A2: those who think it's an investment piece.. but that's got to be extremely marginal<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>B. People who like to claim that vinyls sound much better, more warm, yadda yadda.. even if most of the vinyls today are mastered -from- the same content that goes onto the CD version.  They can still be better technical quality than CD (16bit 44.1kHz vs 24bit 96kHz, for example), but any other argument is moot.  This does exclude those where the entire pipeline went from the raw recording to the vinyl -with- the vinyl in mind (i.e. little to no compression, more careful stereo separation, etc.)</p><p>C. Pretentious people who just want the vinyl + player prominently presented in their living room for the sole purpose of having others comment on it.</p><p>D. DJs who prefer working with the tactile feedback of vinyl, rather than virtual mixing and scratching pads (or even just pushing sliders on a computer screen around) necessitated for CD playback (and at that point, you might as well use digital files all the way).</p><p>E. ?</p><p>Note that only one of those has a reasonably rational argument - but let's face it.. vinyl sales aren't targeting people who are thinking rationally any more than companies selling GPS bluetooth devices (where you're often far better off ditching your current phone/PDA and getting one with GPS built-in).. and I don't blame them... there's obviously an audience.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>why are vinyl sales slowly rising ? In my view , from the situation in NL : A. People like you who want to have something physical even though you " do n't even have to take the album out of its wrapper " .
Which means it 's going where , exactly ?
On the wall ?
Into a filing cabinet of some sort ?
A box in the attic ?
I suppose maybe 50 years down the road if the indie band got big the vinyl might hold some great resale value , especially if it 's still in mint wrapped condition .
I guess that might form a sub-section A2 : those who think it 's an investment piece.. but that 's got to be extremely marginal : ) B. People who like to claim that vinyls sound much better , more warm , yadda yadda.. even if most of the vinyls today are mastered -from- the same content that goes onto the CD version .
They can still be better technical quality than CD ( 16bit 44.1kHz vs 24bit 96kHz , for example ) , but any other argument is moot .
This does exclude those where the entire pipeline went from the raw recording to the vinyl -with- the vinyl in mind ( i.e .
little to no compression , more careful stereo separation , etc. ) C .
Pretentious people who just want the vinyl + player prominently presented in their living room for the sole purpose of having others comment on it.D .
DJs who prefer working with the tactile feedback of vinyl , rather than virtual mixing and scratching pads ( or even just pushing sliders on a computer screen around ) necessitated for CD playback ( and at that point , you might as well use digital files all the way ) .E .
? Note that only one of those has a reasonably rational argument - but let 's face it.. vinyl sales are n't targeting people who are thinking rationally any more than companies selling GPS bluetooth devices ( where you 're often far better off ditching your current phone/PDA and getting one with GPS built-in ) .. and I do n't blame them... there 's obviously an audience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why are vinyl sales slowly rising?In my view, from the situation in NL:A. People like you who want to have something physical even though you "don't even have to take the album out of its wrapper".
Which means it's going where, exactly?
On the wall?
Into a filing cabinet of some sort?
A box in the attic?
I suppose maybe 50 years down the road if the indie band got big the vinyl might hold some great resale value, especially if it's still in mint wrapped condition.
I guess that might form a sub-section A2: those who think it's an investment piece.. but that's got to be extremely marginal :)B. People who like to claim that vinyls sound much better, more warm, yadda yadda.. even if most of the vinyls today are mastered -from- the same content that goes onto the CD version.
They can still be better technical quality than CD (16bit 44.1kHz vs 24bit 96kHz, for example), but any other argument is moot.
This does exclude those where the entire pipeline went from the raw recording to the vinyl -with- the vinyl in mind (i.e.
little to no compression, more careful stereo separation, etc.)C.
Pretentious people who just want the vinyl + player prominently presented in their living room for the sole purpose of having others comment on it.D.
DJs who prefer working with the tactile feedback of vinyl, rather than virtual mixing and scratching pads (or even just pushing sliders on a computer screen around) necessitated for CD playback (and at that point, you might as well use digital files all the way).E.
?Note that only one of those has a reasonably rational argument - but let's face it.. vinyl sales aren't targeting people who are thinking rationally any more than companies selling GPS bluetooth devices (where you're often far better off ditching your current phone/PDA and getting one with GPS built-in).. and I don't blame them... there's obviously an audience.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537524</id>
	<title>Huh?</title>
	<author>Fnord666</author>
	<datestamp>1269013740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's a CD?  Some sort of offline backup of the originally seeded songs?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's a CD ?
Some sort of offline backup of the originally seeded songs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's a CD?
Some sort of offline backup of the originally seeded songs?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540540</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Jeff Carr</author>
	<datestamp>1269022740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...and you can listen to your CDs on as many devices as you like.</p></div><p>Really?  Where did you find a phone with a built in CD player?  I want one!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...and you can listen to your CDs on as many devices as you like.Really ?
Where did you find a phone with a built in CD player ?
I want one !
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and you can listen to your CDs on as many devices as you like.Really?
Where did you find a phone with a built in CD player?
I want one!
:-)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537672</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>MadKeithV</author>
	<datestamp>1269014160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I understand their role in promoting and paying upfront cash for studio time but their role as publishers is leech at best.</p>
 </div><p>They only need to front studio money because they colluded with the major studios to ask for OBSCENE amounts of money for any kind of time in there.  Really, it's NOT that expensive these days for acceptable quality, if you're not one of these people that absolutely wants to use 'vintage' technology for their 'warmth' and 'character'.
</p><p>
For a few thousand &euro; you can get a very acceptable recording setup and practice yourself until you get good, there are plenty of like-minded people online to give you great advice and hints, and you can still send your stuff off to a "big name" to master and/or mix it if you want to do some name-dropping.</p><p>
As far as promotion goes, if you're not Britney Spears, don't get your hopes up with a label.  "Promotion" often means "we'll put your CD at the back of one of the flyers we'll send to record stores".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I understand their role in promoting and paying upfront cash for studio time but their role as publishers is leech at best .
They only need to front studio money because they colluded with the major studios to ask for OBSCENE amounts of money for any kind of time in there .
Really , it 's NOT that expensive these days for acceptable quality , if you 're not one of these people that absolutely wants to use 'vintage ' technology for their 'warmth ' and 'character' .
For a few thousand    you can get a very acceptable recording setup and practice yourself until you get good , there are plenty of like-minded people online to give you great advice and hints , and you can still send your stuff off to a " big name " to master and/or mix it if you want to do some name-dropping .
As far as promotion goes , if you 're not Britney Spears , do n't get your hopes up with a label .
" Promotion " often means " we 'll put your CD at the back of one of the flyers we 'll send to record stores " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understand their role in promoting and paying upfront cash for studio time but their role as publishers is leech at best.
They only need to front studio money because they colluded with the major studios to ask for OBSCENE amounts of money for any kind of time in there.
Really, it's NOT that expensive these days for acceptable quality, if you're not one of these people that absolutely wants to use 'vintage' technology for their 'warmth' and 'character'.
For a few thousand € you can get a very acceptable recording setup and practice yourself until you get good, there are plenty of like-minded people online to give you great advice and hints, and you can still send your stuff off to a "big name" to master and/or mix it if you want to do some name-dropping.
As far as promotion goes, if you're not Britney Spears, don't get your hopes up with a label.
"Promotion" often means "we'll put your CD at the back of one of the flyers we'll send to record stores".
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539198</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1269018180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded music.</p></div><p>"Losslessly" doesn't mean what you think it means.</p><p>All music is composed of analog waveforms.  Waveforms cannot be perfectly represented in a digital sample of said waveform. As you increase your digital sample rate toward infinitely small samples (in time), the accuracy of your digital model of the waveform will increase, but it will never be lossless.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded music .
" Losslessly " does n't mean what you think it means.All music is composed of analog waveforms .
Waveforms can not be perfectly represented in a digital sample of said waveform .
As you increase your digital sample rate toward infinitely small samples ( in time ) , the accuracy of your digital model of the waveform will increase , but it will never be lossless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded music.
"Losslessly" doesn't mean what you think it means.All music is composed of analog waveforms.
Waveforms cannot be perfectly represented in a digital sample of said waveform.
As you increase your digital sample rate toward infinitely small samples (in time), the accuracy of your digital model of the waveform will increase, but it will never be lossless.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31543540</id>
	<title>Well....</title>
	<author>AmonTheMetalhead</author>
	<datestamp>1268991960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Depending on what crap they put on the CD's i might buy it, but seeing what crap there's out there, i'm not holding my breath. (just google brokencyde if you want a lobotomy)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Depending on what crap they put on the CD 's i might buy it , but seeing what crap there 's out there , i 'm not holding my breath .
( just google brokencyde if you want a lobotomy )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depending on what crap they put on the CD's i might buy it, but seeing what crap there's out there, i'm not holding my breath.
(just google brokencyde if you want a lobotomy)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537534</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1269013800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You have, as a physical object, evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media</p></div></blockquote><p>Not necessarily: you could have shoplifted it.  Actually, given the RIAA's attitude to its customers, they'd likely assume that until proven otherwise.</p><blockquote><div><p>why are vinyl sales slowly rising?</p></div> </blockquote><p>From your link: <em>"To be fair, the number is still tiny compared to overall album sales."</em>

</p><p>Pop quiz: is the increase in vinyl sales larger than the decrease in CD sales?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have , as a physical object , evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that mediaNot necessarily : you could have shoplifted it .
Actually , given the RIAA 's attitude to its customers , they 'd likely assume that until proven otherwise.why are vinyl sales slowly rising ?
From your link : " To be fair , the number is still tiny compared to overall album sales .
" Pop quiz : is the increase in vinyl sales larger than the decrease in CD sales ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have, as a physical object, evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that mediaNot necessarily: you could have shoplifted it.
Actually, given the RIAA's attitude to its customers, they'd likely assume that until proven otherwise.why are vinyl sales slowly rising?
From your link: "To be fair, the number is still tiny compared to overall album sales.
"

Pop quiz: is the increase in vinyl sales larger than the decrease in CD sales?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540742</id>
	<title>Hopefully they will change the cost too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269023400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sony did this already but the problem is that while they lowered the list price substantially, they only lowered the actual wholesale cost a tiny bit so a CD that has a list price of 9.99 actually costs the retailer 8.69. The upshot is that nobody can stay in business by selling these CDs at or below the list price. The record store I manage has to sell the 9.99 list price Sony CDs at 12.99 to make enough money to justify carrying them. Other record companies, when they set the list price at 10 bucks, set the wholesale cost at somewhere between 6 and 7 bucks, which is fair and reasonable. Sony basically just changed their list prices without changing the wholesale prices so they could claim that they responded to customers complaints about pricing, while forcing retailers to either price things above list price and look like they are the ones screwing the customer, or not carry them at all. Hopefully UMG isn't going to be following this pattern of behavior, and will let retailers actually carry and sell their releases for a fair price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sony did this already but the problem is that while they lowered the list price substantially , they only lowered the actual wholesale cost a tiny bit so a CD that has a list price of 9.99 actually costs the retailer 8.69 .
The upshot is that nobody can stay in business by selling these CDs at or below the list price .
The record store I manage has to sell the 9.99 list price Sony CDs at 12.99 to make enough money to justify carrying them .
Other record companies , when they set the list price at 10 bucks , set the wholesale cost at somewhere between 6 and 7 bucks , which is fair and reasonable .
Sony basically just changed their list prices without changing the wholesale prices so they could claim that they responded to customers complaints about pricing , while forcing retailers to either price things above list price and look like they are the ones screwing the customer , or not carry them at all .
Hopefully UMG is n't going to be following this pattern of behavior , and will let retailers actually carry and sell their releases for a fair price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sony did this already but the problem is that while they lowered the list price substantially, they only lowered the actual wholesale cost a tiny bit so a CD that has a list price of 9.99 actually costs the retailer 8.69.
The upshot is that nobody can stay in business by selling these CDs at or below the list price.
The record store I manage has to sell the 9.99 list price Sony CDs at 12.99 to make enough money to justify carrying them.
Other record companies, when they set the list price at 10 bucks, set the wholesale cost at somewhere between 6 and 7 bucks, which is fair and reasonable.
Sony basically just changed their list prices without changing the wholesale prices so they could claim that they responded to customers complaints about pricing, while forcing retailers to either price things above list price and look like they are the ones screwing the customer, or not carry them at all.
Hopefully UMG isn't going to be following this pattern of behavior, and will let retailers actually carry and sell their releases for a fair price.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539546</id>
	<title>Re:0$</title>
	<author>bzipitidoo</author>
	<datestamp>1269019320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mature adult?   You tool!  The industry is keen to exploit that attitude.  It's the biggest reason their war on progress and technology has had some success, why the immense savings of switching from physical to electronic distribution has been mostly unrealized, or diverted into the pockets of leeches.  You enable them to continue to deny reality.  Artists must switch to another model, one where they want their music freely shared as much as possible, and people aren't "pirates".

</p><p>$10 is too little, too late.  CDs should die.  What still exists should be under $5, and they should drop all the smug, self-aggrandizing and expensive anti-theft measures such as the jewel case and its oversized cage.  I imagine the typical record exec as a shriveled Gollum like creature hiding in a cave, wearing a CD on his finger-- after the Lord of the CDs had already fallen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mature adult ?
You tool !
The industry is keen to exploit that attitude .
It 's the biggest reason their war on progress and technology has had some success , why the immense savings of switching from physical to electronic distribution has been mostly unrealized , or diverted into the pockets of leeches .
You enable them to continue to deny reality .
Artists must switch to another model , one where they want their music freely shared as much as possible , and people are n't " pirates " .
$ 10 is too little , too late .
CDs should die .
What still exists should be under $ 5 , and they should drop all the smug , self-aggrandizing and expensive anti-theft measures such as the jewel case and its oversized cage .
I imagine the typical record exec as a shriveled Gollum like creature hiding in a cave , wearing a CD on his finger-- after the Lord of the CDs had already fallen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mature adult?
You tool!
The industry is keen to exploit that attitude.
It's the biggest reason their war on progress and technology has had some success, why the immense savings of switching from physical to electronic distribution has been mostly unrealized, or diverted into the pockets of leeches.
You enable them to continue to deny reality.
Artists must switch to another model, one where they want their music freely shared as much as possible, and people aren't "pirates".
$10 is too little, too late.
CDs should die.
What still exists should be under $5, and they should drop all the smug, self-aggrandizing and expensive anti-theft measures such as the jewel case and its oversized cage.
I imagine the typical record exec as a shriveled Gollum like creature hiding in a cave, wearing a CD on his finger-- after the Lord of the CDs had already fallen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537444</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but I don't feel like I "own" a song unless I have it on CD (or cassette, vinyl, etc).</p></div><p>What difference does it make? You are only renting it from the record company until a new audio format comes along and they demand you make a new payment on your 'subscription' anyway.</p><p>Physical media doesn't mean jack anymore, especially with the DRM crap packed on.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but I do n't feel like I " own " a song unless I have it on CD ( or cassette , vinyl , etc ) .What difference does it make ?
You are only renting it from the record company until a new audio format comes along and they demand you make a new payment on your 'subscription ' anyway.Physical media does n't mean jack anymore , especially with the DRM crap packed on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but I don't feel like I "own" a song unless I have it on CD (or cassette, vinyl, etc).What difference does it make?
You are only renting it from the record company until a new audio format comes along and they demand you make a new payment on your 'subscription' anyway.Physical media doesn't mean jack anymore, especially with the DRM crap packed on.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537788</id>
	<title>so,</title>
	<author>syrinx</author>
	<datestamp>1269014400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what is the price of buggy whips nowadays?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what is the price of buggy whips nowadays ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what is the price of buggy whips nowadays?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537774</id>
	<title>Re:What's the first thing you would do with a CD?</title>
	<author>omnichad</author>
	<datestamp>1269014400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I burn my CD's.  Otherwise, they're just empty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I burn my CD 's .
Otherwise , they 're just empty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I burn my CD's.
Otherwise, they're just empty.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538830</id>
	<title>Better late than never?</title>
	<author>HikingStick</author>
	<datestamp>1269017040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Though it may be too late to save the industry, I'll buy some at the lower price points just to get the point across that price has been a major factor. When CDs first came out, they were around $15, and I remember all the talking heads noting how much cheaper they would be to produce once volumes were high enough.  Well, volume went up, but so did prices.  I'm going to vote with my pocketbook, and will hopefully send a message.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Though it may be too late to save the industry , I 'll buy some at the lower price points just to get the point across that price has been a major factor .
When CDs first came out , they were around $ 15 , and I remember all the talking heads noting how much cheaper they would be to produce once volumes were high enough .
Well , volume went up , but so did prices .
I 'm going to vote with my pocketbook , and will hopefully send a message .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Though it may be too late to save the industry, I'll buy some at the lower price points just to get the point across that price has been a major factor.
When CDs first came out, they were around $15, and I remember all the talking heads noting how much cheaper they would be to produce once volumes were high enough.
Well, volume went up, but so did prices.
I'm going to vote with my pocketbook, and will hopefully send a message.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538076</id>
	<title>Physical media is obsolete</title>
	<author>Trip6</author>
	<datestamp>1269015120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except for the DRM, which Mr. Jobs has mostly figured out, physical media has no reason to exist.  It's a shame that the most popular formats are so compressed, but that will improve with more bandwidth and Moore's law.  Ultimately, the quality of your DAC and transducers (i.e. speakers) determines the quality of your playback level.  Vinyl has a certain appealing sound characteristic when enough money is spent on the playback but will never become mainstream again, relegated to hobby status.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except for the DRM , which Mr. Jobs has mostly figured out , physical media has no reason to exist .
It 's a shame that the most popular formats are so compressed , but that will improve with more bandwidth and Moore 's law .
Ultimately , the quality of your DAC and transducers ( i.e .
speakers ) determines the quality of your playback level .
Vinyl has a certain appealing sound characteristic when enough money is spent on the playback but will never become mainstream again , relegated to hobby status .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except for the DRM, which Mr. Jobs has mostly figured out, physical media has no reason to exist.
It's a shame that the most popular formats are so compressed, but that will improve with more bandwidth and Moore's law.
Ultimately, the quality of your DAC and transducers (i.e.
speakers) determines the quality of your playback level.
Vinyl has a certain appealing sound characteristic when enough money is spent on the playback but will never become mainstream again, relegated to hobby status.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538632</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1269016500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure about iTunes, but at least Amazon is a good example that you don't "own" books in Kindles if they could remotely delete them, as they already did. But go to some digital media that you really control and won't matter if is in your (not i)phone, media player, or computer, is you who decides about storing, backing up, playing o even moving to a different media, so could count as "owning" for what it matters.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure about iTunes , but at least Amazon is a good example that you do n't " own " books in Kindles if they could remotely delete them , as they already did .
But go to some digital media that you really control and wo n't matter if is in your ( not i ) phone , media player , or computer , is you who decides about storing , backing up , playing o even moving to a different media , so could count as " owning " for what it matters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure about iTunes, but at least Amazon is a good example that you don't "own" books in Kindles if they could remotely delete them, as they already did.
But go to some digital media that you really control and won't matter if is in your (not i)phone, media player, or computer, is you who decides about storing, backing up, playing o even moving to a different media, so could count as "owning" for what it matters.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536882</id>
	<title>It only took a decade or so...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269012240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You'd think the music companies would have at least one economist on staff who could explain to them, slowly and gently, that under certain circumstances it is actually possible to make <i>more</i> money when each individual unit is priced <i>lower</i>. It really takes some stubborn failure of logic to prioritise your sale price above your actual monetary returns.</p><p>Of course, it's also possible that the music quality will just decline to compensate for the drop in price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'd think the music companies would have at least one economist on staff who could explain to them , slowly and gently , that under certain circumstances it is actually possible to make more money when each individual unit is priced lower .
It really takes some stubborn failure of logic to prioritise your sale price above your actual monetary returns.Of course , it 's also possible that the music quality will just decline to compensate for the drop in price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'd think the music companies would have at least one economist on staff who could explain to them, slowly and gently, that under certain circumstances it is actually possible to make more money when each individual unit is priced lower.
It really takes some stubborn failure of logic to prioritise your sale price above your actual monetary returns.Of course, it's also possible that the music quality will just decline to compensate for the drop in price.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537852</id>
	<title>Premium vs Discount Format</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269014580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see this as a really important shift.</p><p>Previously, the CD was the premium format, with all it's uncompressed audio glory. And it is fairly portable, playable in most consumer electronic devices found in the living room or car.</p><p>The MP3/AAC format was the discount format. Compressed with some audio loss, and playable in less devices. Also encumbered in some cases with DRM.</p><p>The premium format carried a 50\% markup, with most MP3 albums costing around $10, and CD's costing around $15.</p><p>With CD's potentially costing LESS than MP3/AAC formats, this signifies the market is placing premium on the MP3/AAC format over the CD. This could be because the format is now supported in more devices, or consumers find it friendlier to deal with, perhaps because there's no need to fight the packaging then burn it on your own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see this as a really important shift.Previously , the CD was the premium format , with all it 's uncompressed audio glory .
And it is fairly portable , playable in most consumer electronic devices found in the living room or car.The MP3/AAC format was the discount format .
Compressed with some audio loss , and playable in less devices .
Also encumbered in some cases with DRM.The premium format carried a 50 \ % markup , with most MP3 albums costing around $ 10 , and CD 's costing around $ 15.With CD 's potentially costing LESS than MP3/AAC formats , this signifies the market is placing premium on the MP3/AAC format over the CD .
This could be because the format is now supported in more devices , or consumers find it friendlier to deal with , perhaps because there 's no need to fight the packaging then burn it on your own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see this as a really important shift.Previously, the CD was the premium format, with all it's uncompressed audio glory.
And it is fairly portable, playable in most consumer electronic devices found in the living room or car.The MP3/AAC format was the discount format.
Compressed with some audio loss, and playable in less devices.
Also encumbered in some cases with DRM.The premium format carried a 50\% markup, with most MP3 albums costing around $10, and CD's costing around $15.With CD's potentially costing LESS than MP3/AAC formats, this signifies the market is placing premium on the MP3/AAC format over the CD.
This could be because the format is now supported in more devices, or consumers find it friendlier to deal with, perhaps because there's no need to fight the packaging then burn it on your own.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537386</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1269013380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would I want to &ldquo;own&rdquo; a song? I just want to listen to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would I want to    own    a song ?
I just want to listen to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would I want to “own” a song?
I just want to listen to it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537798</id>
	<title>Maybe it will push down used CDs too.</title>
	<author>stomv</author>
	<datestamp>1269014460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I buy about 100-150 CDs each year, and the only ones which come shrink wrapped are local bands who self-publish.  The rest of my CDs all come used -- local shops, eBay, amazon, GoodWill, friends, whatever.  I've got a long list of music I'd like to own, and I'm in no hurry to buy any particular album, so I rarely pay more than $3 for a CD (including shipping).  Since I listen to music from mp3 files 100\% of the time, a slightly damaged jewel case or booklet doesn't matter to me.</p><p>It costs me less to own more, I'm not giving any money to the MPAA, and I'm not involved in creating more plastic waste -- we Americans own enough crap already.  If this helps depress the price of used CDs too, that's ab-fab!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I buy about 100-150 CDs each year , and the only ones which come shrink wrapped are local bands who self-publish .
The rest of my CDs all come used -- local shops , eBay , amazon , GoodWill , friends , whatever .
I 've got a long list of music I 'd like to own , and I 'm in no hurry to buy any particular album , so I rarely pay more than $ 3 for a CD ( including shipping ) .
Since I listen to music from mp3 files 100 \ % of the time , a slightly damaged jewel case or booklet does n't matter to me.It costs me less to own more , I 'm not giving any money to the MPAA , and I 'm not involved in creating more plastic waste -- we Americans own enough crap already .
If this helps depress the price of used CDs too , that 's ab-fab !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I buy about 100-150 CDs each year, and the only ones which come shrink wrapped are local bands who self-publish.
The rest of my CDs all come used -- local shops, eBay, amazon, GoodWill, friends, whatever.
I've got a long list of music I'd like to own, and I'm in no hurry to buy any particular album, so I rarely pay more than $3 for a CD (including shipping).
Since I listen to music from mp3 files 100\% of the time, a slightly damaged jewel case or booklet doesn't matter to me.It costs me less to own more, I'm not giving any money to the MPAA, and I'm not involved in creating more plastic waste -- we Americans own enough crap already.
If this helps depress the price of used CDs too, that's ab-fab!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537006</id>
	<title>The business model isn't completely dead with this</title>
	<author>Coopjust</author>
	<datestamp>1269012480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll be honest. I'm usually more of a singles person than an album person.
<br> <br>However, when the album and digital copy are near the same price, the physical copy provides a long lasting backup (pressed CDs last longer than burnt), and I have a lossless copy that I can legally use, rip to lossless on my PC, and not have to go on a tracker and seed until my eyeballs fall out of my head for the ratio...it makes sense for a number of albums.
<br> <br>
Weird Al Yankovic stated that he was happy for either avenue his customers used to buy music, but his take per track on iTunes was about two cents a track and his take on CDs was about 26 cents- which is pretty major if you want to support the artist.
<br> <br>
Anyhow, it's a good move by UMG, albeit overdue. I think it's like the MPAA- the "boston strangler" of VHS turned out to be a major blessing and boon to their business. Hopefully other companies follow suit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll be honest .
I 'm usually more of a singles person than an album person .
However , when the album and digital copy are near the same price , the physical copy provides a long lasting backup ( pressed CDs last longer than burnt ) , and I have a lossless copy that I can legally use , rip to lossless on my PC , and not have to go on a tracker and seed until my eyeballs fall out of my head for the ratio...it makes sense for a number of albums .
Weird Al Yankovic stated that he was happy for either avenue his customers used to buy music , but his take per track on iTunes was about two cents a track and his take on CDs was about 26 cents- which is pretty major if you want to support the artist .
Anyhow , it 's a good move by UMG , albeit overdue .
I think it 's like the MPAA- the " boston strangler " of VHS turned out to be a major blessing and boon to their business .
Hopefully other companies follow suit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll be honest.
I'm usually more of a singles person than an album person.
However, when the album and digital copy are near the same price, the physical copy provides a long lasting backup (pressed CDs last longer than burnt), and I have a lossless copy that I can legally use, rip to lossless on my PC, and not have to go on a tracker and seed until my eyeballs fall out of my head for the ratio...it makes sense for a number of albums.
Weird Al Yankovic stated that he was happy for either avenue his customers used to buy music, but his take per track on iTunes was about two cents a track and his take on CDs was about 26 cents- which is pretty major if you want to support the artist.
Anyhow, it's a good move by UMG, albeit overdue.
I think it's like the MPAA- the "boston strangler" of VHS turned out to be a major blessing and boon to their business.
Hopefully other companies follow suit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536758</id>
	<title>Only ...</title>
	<author>6031769</author>
	<datestamp>1269012000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>25 years too late. Oh well, better late than never.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>25 years too late .
Oh well , better late than never .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>25 years too late.
Oh well, better late than never.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537464</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1269013620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.</p><p>(There is some chance that the audio never experiences any filtering and the frequency response of the entire chain of analog equipment is such that there is no cutoff of high frequencies, and that the ears listening can hear the high frequencies, and that there isn't any dust on the record and that the record hasn't been worn by previous playback, but it isn't really all that likely)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools .
( There is some chance that the audio never experiences any filtering and the frequency response of the entire chain of analog equipment is such that there is no cutoff of high frequencies , and that the ears listening can hear the high frequencies , and that there is n't any dust on the record and that the record has n't been worn by previous playback , but it is n't really all that likely )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.
(There is some chance that the audio never experiences any filtering and the frequency response of the entire chain of analog equipment is such that there is no cutoff of high frequencies, and that the ears listening can hear the high frequencies, and that there isn't any dust on the record and that the record hasn't been worn by previous playback, but it isn't really all that likely)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539294</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269018480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded music</p></div><p>The digitalization process is never lossless (due to quantization, lack of resolution, imperfection of equipment), so describing CDs as losslessly encoded is not entirely accurate. And given that most current master tapes are 24bit/96kHz (or higher), the claim that encoding a CD is lossless is entirely false.</p><p>Also, long-term implies (to me at least) that the medium will outlast the copyright protection of the contents. I don't think that's the case.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded musicThe digitalization process is never lossless ( due to quantization , lack of resolution , imperfection of equipment ) , so describing CDs as losslessly encoded is not entirely accurate .
And given that most current master tapes are 24bit/96kHz ( or higher ) , the claim that encoding a CD is lossless is entirely false.Also , long-term implies ( to me at least ) that the medium will outlast the copyright protection of the contents .
I do n't think that 's the case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded musicThe digitalization process is never lossless (due to quantization, lack of resolution, imperfection of equipment), so describing CDs as losslessly encoded is not entirely accurate.
And given that most current master tapes are 24bit/96kHz (or higher), the claim that encoding a CD is lossless is entirely false.Also, long-term implies (to me at least) that the medium will outlast the copyright protection of the contents.
I don't think that's the case.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537252</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537714</id>
	<title>Price according to quality.</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1269014220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are quite a few artists whose new albums I want to pay $20 for. The majority however is cheap cookie-cutter crap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are quite a few artists whose new albums I want to pay $ 20 for .
The majority however is cheap cookie-cutter crap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are quite a few artists whose new albums I want to pay $20 for.
The majority however is cheap cookie-cutter crap.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537002</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>floatednerd</author>
	<datestamp>1269012480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe I'm going into the future kicking and screaming... but I don't feel like I "own" a song unless I have it on CD (or cassette, vinyl, etc).  From my point of view, CDs are the "superior" product verses the MP3 from iTunes or Amazon.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe I 'm going into the future kicking and screaming... but I do n't feel like I " own " a song unless I have it on CD ( or cassette , vinyl , etc ) .
From my point of view , CDs are the " superior " product verses the MP3 from iTunes or Amazon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe I'm going into the future kicking and screaming... but I don't feel like I "own" a song unless I have it on CD (or cassette, vinyl, etc).
From my point of view, CDs are the "superior" product verses the MP3 from iTunes or Amazon.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536832</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540674</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Lattitude</author>
	<datestamp>1269023160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But what are you going to throw at the zombies if you get rid of all your vinyl??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But what are you going to throw at the zombies if you get rid of all your vinyl ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what are you going to throw at the zombies if you get rid of all your vinyl?
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537364</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31542726</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269031980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would be sad if Vinyl went away as it is my preferred source for DJ'ing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would be sad if Vinyl went away as it is my preferred source for DJ'ing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would be sad if Vinyl went away as it is my preferred source for DJ'ing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537640</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540250</id>
	<title>There's a union...why don't they use it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269021600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The real issue that musicians and the companies fail to realize is that it's dirt cheap to set up a decent recording studio these days and even cheaper to pay for the bandwidth to distribute the product.  For that matter the band can burn you a disc and mail it for less than $10.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real issue that musicians and the companies fail to realize is that it 's dirt cheap to set up a decent recording studio these days and even cheaper to pay for the bandwidth to distribute the product .
For that matter the band can burn you a disc and mail it for less than $ 10 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real issue that musicians and the companies fail to realize is that it's dirt cheap to set up a decent recording studio these days and even cheaper to pay for the bandwidth to distribute the product.
For that matter the band can burn you a disc and mail it for less than $10.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538954</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>newdsfornerds</author>
	<datestamp>1269017460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You sure it isn't piracy as well?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You sure it is n't piracy as well ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You sure it isn't piracy as well?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538940</id>
	<title>Better late than never</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269017400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been asking for this for a LONG time. I'm one of those audio snobs that wants the highest possible quality for his music. I don't like 128k or 192k mp3s. I want a CD and a hifi sound system in my car and at home. I love buying CDs, but given you can't return it if you don't like it and you can't really listen to it in the store before you check out, I think $6.99 is my sweet spot for the impulse buy.</p><p>Better late than never UMG.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been asking for this for a LONG time .
I 'm one of those audio snobs that wants the highest possible quality for his music .
I do n't like 128k or 192k mp3s .
I want a CD and a hifi sound system in my car and at home .
I love buying CDs , but given you ca n't return it if you do n't like it and you ca n't really listen to it in the store before you check out , I think $ 6.99 is my sweet spot for the impulse buy.Better late than never UMG .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been asking for this for a LONG time.
I'm one of those audio snobs that wants the highest possible quality for his music.
I don't like 128k or 192k mp3s.
I want a CD and a hifi sound system in my car and at home.
I love buying CDs, but given you can't return it if you don't like it and you can't really listen to it in the store before you check out, I think $6.99 is my sweet spot for the impulse buy.Better late than never UMG.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537026</id>
	<title>Too late</title>
	<author>Junior J. Junior III</author>
	<datestamp>1269012540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This would have been a great strategy for the late 1990's, when the CD was still a relevant media (and, for that matter, when consumers were demanding that prices be lowered, both through their words and through their actions -- which the industry by and large ignored completely).</p><p>I'm not sure I'd call CDs relevant still.  We've moved on to solid state media, writeable storage decoupled from the content.  You could discount 8-track tapes and they wouldn't sell today.  CD's don't have the same analog appeal that vinyl records to, either.  I expect that eventually they'll just stop making CDs, and all music will be distributed via the network.</p><p>This price reduction merely indicates that we're a little bit closer to that day.  I doubt it'll do much to boost sales at this point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This would have been a great strategy for the late 1990 's , when the CD was still a relevant media ( and , for that matter , when consumers were demanding that prices be lowered , both through their words and through their actions -- which the industry by and large ignored completely ) .I 'm not sure I 'd call CDs relevant still .
We 've moved on to solid state media , writeable storage decoupled from the content .
You could discount 8-track tapes and they would n't sell today .
CD 's do n't have the same analog appeal that vinyl records to , either .
I expect that eventually they 'll just stop making CDs , and all music will be distributed via the network.This price reduction merely indicates that we 're a little bit closer to that day .
I doubt it 'll do much to boost sales at this point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would have been a great strategy for the late 1990's, when the CD was still a relevant media (and, for that matter, when consumers were demanding that prices be lowered, both through their words and through their actions -- which the industry by and large ignored completely).I'm not sure I'd call CDs relevant still.
We've moved on to solid state media, writeable storage decoupled from the content.
You could discount 8-track tapes and they wouldn't sell today.
CD's don't have the same analog appeal that vinyl records to, either.
I expect that eventually they'll just stop making CDs, and all music will be distributed via the network.This price reduction merely indicates that we're a little bit closer to that day.
I doubt it'll do much to boost sales at this point.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31541054</id>
	<title>This should work</title>
	<author>nebular</author>
	<datestamp>1269024600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find that I'm buying mre DVDs butusually it's the DVDs that are in the bin that are between $5-12, they're old but they're good. It would be the same for cds but I find I don't really even download anymore. I have a nice collection of music I like and haven't found anything that's come out in the last few years that really interests me beyond the occational listen on the radio.</p><p>It will work, but the music industry as a whole just needs to step up the quality of music being made.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find that I 'm buying mre DVDs butusually it 's the DVDs that are in the bin that are between $ 5-12 , they 're old but they 're good .
It would be the same for cds but I find I do n't really even download anymore .
I have a nice collection of music I like and have n't found anything that 's come out in the last few years that really interests me beyond the occational listen on the radio.It will work , but the music industry as a whole just needs to step up the quality of music being made .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find that I'm buying mre DVDs butusually it's the DVDs that are in the bin that are between $5-12, they're old but they're good.
It would be the same for cds but I find I don't really even download anymore.
I have a nice collection of music I like and haven't found anything that's come out in the last few years that really interests me beyond the occational listen on the radio.It will work, but the music industry as a whole just needs to step up the quality of music being made.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538266</id>
	<title>Re:Shocking</title>
	<author>Richard\_at\_work</author>
	<datestamp>1269015600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Define 'make a CD'...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Define 'make a CD'.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Define 'make a CD'...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31536992</id>
	<title>I love the juxaposition</title>
	<author>edremy</author>
	<datestamp>1269012480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>""Why does Universal feel the need to get below $10?" a senior distribution executive at a competing major asked.
"</i>
<p>
Quickly followed by</p><p> <i>"[Sales of CDs] which [are] down 15.4\% so far this year. Album sales were down 18.2\% last year, and 19.7\% in 2008, "

</i> </p><p>I swear, Thick as a Brick should be a Jethro Tull song, not a description of record company executives....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" " Why does Universal feel the need to get below $ 10 ?
" a senior distribution executive at a competing major asked .
" Quickly followed by " [ Sales of CDs ] which [ are ] down 15.4 \ % so far this year .
Album sales were down 18.2 \ % last year , and 19.7 \ % in 2008 , " I swear , Thick as a Brick should be a Jethro Tull song , not a description of record company executives... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>""Why does Universal feel the need to get below $10?
" a senior distribution executive at a competing major asked.
"

Quickly followed by "[Sales of CDs] which [are] down 15.4\% so far this year.
Album sales were down 18.2\% last year, and 19.7\% in 2008, "

 I swear, Thick as a Brick should be a Jethro Tull song, not a description of record company executives....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538344</id>
	<title>Re:The business model isn't completely dead with t</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1269015780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>I'm usually more of a singles person than an album person.
</i>
<br>
<br>
Noooooooooooooooo...don't say that here, you'll just summon a horde of incredibly annoying self-annointed music geeks who will annoy us all by explaining how for the bands THEY like the whole album is good.  If you're unlucky you'll get a few links to a bunch  of truly awful whiny hipster bands with ironic band names who all sound pretty much the same, like they first picked up their instruments yesterday.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm usually more of a singles person than an album person .
Noooooooooooooooo...do n't say that here , you 'll just summon a horde of incredibly annoying self-annointed music geeks who will annoy us all by explaining how for the bands THEY like the whole album is good .
If you 're unlucky you 'll get a few links to a bunch of truly awful whiny hipster bands with ironic band names who all sound pretty much the same , like they first picked up their instruments yesterday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm usually more of a singles person than an album person.
Noooooooooooooooo...don't say that here, you'll just summon a horde of incredibly annoying self-annointed music geeks who will annoy us all by explaining how for the bands THEY like the whole album is good.
If you're unlucky you'll get a few links to a bunch  of truly awful whiny hipster bands with ironic band names who all sound pretty much the same, like they first picked up their instruments yesterday.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539390</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269018780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, lets compare.  Say you have an iPod that can hold 20,000 songs.  Assume an average album is 12 songs.  That's 1,667 albums.  A CD weighs about 16g.  Your collection of music weighs about 26kg.  Compared to the 140g iPod that's substantial.  It gets worse if you're carrying them with the booklets and inside the jewel case, then the weight goes up to about 60g per album, for a total weight of right about 100kg.  When your jogging music is a 4 man lift, I wouldn't call it portable anymore.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , lets compare .
Say you have an iPod that can hold 20,000 songs .
Assume an average album is 12 songs .
That 's 1,667 albums .
A CD weighs about 16g .
Your collection of music weighs about 26kg .
Compared to the 140g iPod that 's substantial .
It gets worse if you 're carrying them with the booklets and inside the jewel case , then the weight goes up to about 60g per album , for a total weight of right about 100kg .
When your jogging music is a 4 man lift , I would n't call it portable anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, lets compare.
Say you have an iPod that can hold 20,000 songs.
Assume an average album is 12 songs.
That's 1,667 albums.
A CD weighs about 16g.
Your collection of music weighs about 26kg.
Compared to the 140g iPod that's substantial.
It gets worse if you're carrying them with the booklets and inside the jewel case, then the weight goes up to about 60g per album, for a total weight of right about 100kg.
When your jogging music is a 4 man lift, I wouldn't call it portable anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537640</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1269014040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising?</p> </div><p>Even the link you quoted shows that ALL forms of music - CD's, digital, AND vinyl - are rising in sales.  Vinyl also, despite "rising" sales, is still not really selling in any significant amounts.</p><p>As the article pointed out, Taylor Swift's latest album sold nearly twice as many copies in six months as the ENTIRE SALES VOLUME of vinyl records in a year.</p><p>Vinyl is making about as much of a comeback as any other retro tech - some people are clinging to it, but you're dreaming if you think that there's going to be some mass movement back to the format.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising ?
Even the link you quoted shows that ALL forms of music - CD 's , digital , AND vinyl - are rising in sales .
Vinyl also , despite " rising " sales , is still not really selling in any significant amounts.As the article pointed out , Taylor Swift 's latest album sold nearly twice as many copies in six months as the ENTIRE SALES VOLUME of vinyl records in a year.Vinyl is making about as much of a comeback as any other retro tech - some people are clinging to it , but you 're dreaming if you think that there 's going to be some mass movement back to the format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising?
Even the link you quoted shows that ALL forms of music - CD's, digital, AND vinyl - are rising in sales.
Vinyl also, despite "rising" sales, is still not really selling in any significant amounts.As the article pointed out, Taylor Swift's latest album sold nearly twice as many copies in six months as the ENTIRE SALES VOLUME of vinyl records in a year.Vinyl is making about as much of a comeback as any other retro tech - some people are clinging to it, but you're dreaming if you think that there's going to be some mass movement back to the format.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538988</id>
	<title>Re:It only took a decade or so...</title>
	<author>newdsfornerds</author>
	<datestamp>1269017580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You forget the board members went to business school. That makes it harder for them to apprehend what's happening the real world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You forget the board members went to business school .
That makes it harder for them to apprehend what 's happening the real world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forget the board members went to business school.
That makes it harder for them to apprehend what's happening the real world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540906</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>IDtheTarget</author>
	<datestamp>1269024060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>I remember CDs. They made such pretty coffee coasters after I burned all their music to my MP3 player.</p></div><p>I believe the correct verb you're looking for is 'ripped.'  But before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.</p></div><p>If I recall correctly, all of the MP3's that I've purchased from Amazon have some kind of code embedded in the meta data that shows that I'm the one who purchased the song.  I don't really mind, since I've never been interested in giving music that I've paid for to others...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember CDs .
They made such pretty coffee coasters after I burned all their music to my MP3 player.I believe the correct verb you 're looking for is 'ripped .
' But before you go on about how 'quaint ' CDs are , keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.If I recall correctly , all of the MP3 's that I 've purchased from Amazon have some kind of code embedded in the meta data that shows that I 'm the one who purchased the song .
I do n't really mind , since I 've never been interested in giving music that I 've paid for to others.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember CDs.
They made such pretty coffee coasters after I burned all their music to my MP3 player.I believe the correct verb you're looking for is 'ripped.
'  But before you go on about how 'quaint' CDs are, keep in mind how nice it is to own something physical.If I recall correctly, all of the MP3's that I've purchased from Amazon have some kind of code embedded in the meta data that shows that I'm the one who purchased the song.
I don't really mind, since I've never been interested in giving music that I've paid for to others...
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538898</id>
	<title>Re:It only took a decade or so...</title>
	<author>Nethemas the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1269017280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But if they didn't price themselves out of everyone's wallet then how would we be motivated to find alternatives?  Practically free transmission of digital content from person to person has a nice ring to it...</htmltext>
<tokenext>But if they did n't price themselves out of everyone 's wallet then how would we be motivated to find alternatives ?
Practically free transmission of digital content from person to person has a nice ring to it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But if they didn't price themselves out of everyone's wallet then how would we be motivated to find alternatives?
Practically free transmission of digital content from person to person has a nice ring to it...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537678</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>White Shade</author>
	<datestamp>1269014160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For less than $10 I'd buy a lot more cd's than I do now. $9 to download an album, or $8-10 to get the better quality hard copy, it's a no-brainer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For less than $ 10 I 'd buy a lot more cd 's than I do now .
$ 9 to download an album , or $ 8-10 to get the better quality hard copy , it 's a no-brainer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For less than $10 I'd buy a lot more cd's than I do now.
$9 to download an album, or $8-10 to get the better quality hard copy, it's a no-brainer.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537192</id>
	<title>Normal price here. And still way overpriced.</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1269012900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Hong Kong a typical release CD of some local artist costs around USD 10 already. That's been since I moved here 7, 8 years ago. Older releases cost less. Import from US is typically USD 8-12 for a CD.
</p><p>Now there are a few differences: the entertainment world lives on a smaller budget and the top artists are at a level that wouldn't even make it into American Idol. That says more about the cantopop than about American Idol.
</p><p>Movies on DVD cost about USD 20 (new releases), older movies are sold at far cheaper prices. On VCD one can buy a movie for a few dollars.
</p><p>The above prices are for the official media, not for the pirated ones. Those are far cheaper.
</p><p>Still I think US$10 for a CD is overpriced. Pirated CD's are selling for well under USD 1 each. So that is a $9.something mark-up for what? Recording and artist's share?
</p><p>Both pirated CD's and official CD's have to be manufactured and distributed. That incurs costs that are independent of the content. The only difference is the actual recording and the marketing. Even the shops selling pirated disks are in the same expensive locations as the official outlets, so even there is no difference: they both have to make the same profit to survive. Both shop's suppliers have to run their trucks and pay their drivers and workers and run their CD/DVD machines.
</p><p>Official releases have better quality CD (technical: play guaranteed, last longer than a few years) and come in jewel case instead of paper sleeve. That may add $0.20-0.30 to manufacturing.
Even when selling at USD 2.50 each the label should be able to make a USD 1.00 gross profit on each. And at that price level it becomes vending machine material, and volume may skyrocket due to all those impulse buys. Sell a million disks, make a million in gross profit. If a million dollars is not enough to cover recording, marketing, and a fat profit, then you're doing something terribly wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Hong Kong a typical release CD of some local artist costs around USD 10 already .
That 's been since I moved here 7 , 8 years ago .
Older releases cost less .
Import from US is typically USD 8-12 for a CD .
Now there are a few differences : the entertainment world lives on a smaller budget and the top artists are at a level that would n't even make it into American Idol .
That says more about the cantopop than about American Idol .
Movies on DVD cost about USD 20 ( new releases ) , older movies are sold at far cheaper prices .
On VCD one can buy a movie for a few dollars .
The above prices are for the official media , not for the pirated ones .
Those are far cheaper .
Still I think US $ 10 for a CD is overpriced .
Pirated CD 's are selling for well under USD 1 each .
So that is a $ 9.something mark-up for what ?
Recording and artist 's share ?
Both pirated CD 's and official CD 's have to be manufactured and distributed .
That incurs costs that are independent of the content .
The only difference is the actual recording and the marketing .
Even the shops selling pirated disks are in the same expensive locations as the official outlets , so even there is no difference : they both have to make the same profit to survive .
Both shop 's suppliers have to run their trucks and pay their drivers and workers and run their CD/DVD machines .
Official releases have better quality CD ( technical : play guaranteed , last longer than a few years ) and come in jewel case instead of paper sleeve .
That may add $ 0.20-0.30 to manufacturing .
Even when selling at USD 2.50 each the label should be able to make a USD 1.00 gross profit on each .
And at that price level it becomes vending machine material , and volume may skyrocket due to all those impulse buys .
Sell a million disks , make a million in gross profit .
If a million dollars is not enough to cover recording , marketing , and a fat profit , then you 're doing something terribly wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Hong Kong a typical release CD of some local artist costs around USD 10 already.
That's been since I moved here 7, 8 years ago.
Older releases cost less.
Import from US is typically USD 8-12 for a CD.
Now there are a few differences: the entertainment world lives on a smaller budget and the top artists are at a level that wouldn't even make it into American Idol.
That says more about the cantopop than about American Idol.
Movies on DVD cost about USD 20 (new releases), older movies are sold at far cheaper prices.
On VCD one can buy a movie for a few dollars.
The above prices are for the official media, not for the pirated ones.
Those are far cheaper.
Still I think US$10 for a CD is overpriced.
Pirated CD's are selling for well under USD 1 each.
So that is a $9.something mark-up for what?
Recording and artist's share?
Both pirated CD's and official CD's have to be manufactured and distributed.
That incurs costs that are independent of the content.
The only difference is the actual recording and the marketing.
Even the shops selling pirated disks are in the same expensive locations as the official outlets, so even there is no difference: they both have to make the same profit to survive.
Both shop's suppliers have to run their trucks and pay their drivers and workers and run their CD/DVD machines.
Official releases have better quality CD (technical: play guaranteed, last longer than a few years) and come in jewel case instead of paper sleeve.
That may add $0.20-0.30 to manufacturing.
Even when selling at USD 2.50 each the label should be able to make a USD 1.00 gross profit on each.
And at that price level it becomes vending machine material, and volume may skyrocket due to all those impulse buys.
Sell a million disks, make a million in gross profit.
If a million dollars is not enough to cover recording, marketing, and a fat profit, then you're doing something terribly wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538812</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1269016980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising? </i></p><p>Hipsters.  This is the same crowd that has sequin sweater parties.  Somehow in their mind vinyl (and sequin sweaters) are better *because* they're crappy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising ?
Hipsters. This is the same crowd that has sequin sweater parties .
Somehow in their mind vinyl ( and sequin sweaters ) are better * because * they 're crappy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you find this concept quaint then why are vinyl sales slowly rising?
Hipsters.  This is the same crowd that has sequin sweater parties.
Somehow in their mind vinyl (and sequin sweaters) are better *because* they're crappy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31547258</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269018720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's assume 4 minutes per song. Your "jogging" music will last you nearly 8 weeks of continuous play. That's a long jog...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's assume 4 minutes per song .
Your " jogging " music will last you nearly 8 weeks of continuous play .
That 's a long jog.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's assume 4 minutes per song.
Your "jogging" music will last you nearly 8 weeks of continuous play.
That's a long jog...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537834</id>
	<title>Archive to FLAC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269014580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Archive to FLAC and put it away for storage, like I do with all my cd's. With a proper lossless archive like FLAC, you forever have the option to convert to any lossy format you chose, for a perfect "first generation" copy. On your main computer, of course, you can just load the entire FLAC archive into your music player and play off that.</p><p>Why mess around with buying mp3's when you can get the real thing? I keep a running list of albums I might want to buy, and every few months I order a batch of about 10 used cd's from a used cd store <a href="http://www.secondspin.com/" title="secondspin.com" rel="nofollow">like this</a> [secondspin.com]. It's not hard to choose between $5 for the real deal and $10 for mp3's (which, no matter how good the sound quality, can never be bit-for-bit identical to the original WAV files on the original disc).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Archive to FLAC and put it away for storage , like I do with all my cd 's .
With a proper lossless archive like FLAC , you forever have the option to convert to any lossy format you chose , for a perfect " first generation " copy .
On your main computer , of course , you can just load the entire FLAC archive into your music player and play off that.Why mess around with buying mp3 's when you can get the real thing ?
I keep a running list of albums I might want to buy , and every few months I order a batch of about 10 used cd 's from a used cd store like this [ secondspin.com ] .
It 's not hard to choose between $ 5 for the real deal and $ 10 for mp3 's ( which , no matter how good the sound quality , can never be bit-for-bit identical to the original WAV files on the original disc ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Archive to FLAC and put it away for storage, like I do with all my cd's.
With a proper lossless archive like FLAC, you forever have the option to convert to any lossy format you chose, for a perfect "first generation" copy.
On your main computer, of course, you can just load the entire FLAC archive into your music player and play off that.Why mess around with buying mp3's when you can get the real thing?
I keep a running list of albums I might want to buy, and every few months I order a batch of about 10 used cd's from a used cd store like this [secondspin.com].
It's not hard to choose between $5 for the real deal and $10 for mp3's (which, no matter how good the sound quality, can never be bit-for-bit identical to the original WAV files on the original disc).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537410</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>whisper\_jeff</author>
	<datestamp>1269013440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you seriously just write "CDs aren't portable"? Really? I know nerds have the stigma of being out of shape, but really?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you seriously just write " CDs are n't portable " ?
Really ? I know nerds have the stigma of being out of shape , but really ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you seriously just write "CDs aren't portable"?
Really? I know nerds have the stigma of being out of shape, but really?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537030</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>SimonTheSoundMan</author>
	<datestamp>1269012540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, but you have a physical copy that hasn't been compressed to 256kb/s or lower MP3/ACC files, the disc will last hundreds if not thousands of years, and best of all you can do whatever you want with it.</p><p>CD's are cheaper in the UK than downloads. &pound;5-&pound;7 for the CD album, whereas on iTunes it can be &pound;6.99 to &pound;8.99. I think it is great he USA have matched our prices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , but you have a physical copy that has n't been compressed to 256kb/s or lower MP3/ACC files , the disc will last hundreds if not thousands of years , and best of all you can do whatever you want with it.CD 's are cheaper in the UK than downloads .
  5-   7 for the CD album , whereas on iTunes it can be   6.99 to   8.99 .
I think it is great he USA have matched our prices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, but you have a physical copy that hasn't been compressed to 256kb/s or lower MP3/ACC files, the disc will last hundreds if not thousands of years, and best of all you can do whatever you want with it.CD's are cheaper in the UK than downloads.
£5-£7 for the CD album, whereas on iTunes it can be £6.99 to £8.99.
I think it is great he USA have matched our prices.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539590</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Sloppy</author>
	<datestamp>1269019500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CDs are awesome.  They come on their own backup medium.  Read it, store it in a box, and it's there in case you ever want it again.  Like, for example, when you realize that hard disk space is so cheap, that you don't need MP3 or Vorbis anymore and wanna move on to FLAC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CDs are awesome .
They come on their own backup medium .
Read it , store it in a box , and it 's there in case you ever want it again .
Like , for example , when you realize that hard disk space is so cheap , that you do n't need MP3 or Vorbis anymore and wan na move on to FLAC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CDs are awesome.
They come on their own backup medium.
Read it, store it in a box, and it's there in case you ever want it again.
Like, for example, when you realize that hard disk space is so cheap, that you don't need MP3 or Vorbis anymore and wanna move on to FLAC.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537698</id>
	<title>MP3!  How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269014220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember MP3s.  They made a nice way to conveniently transport your music until they were first replaced by better lossy formats, and then made obsolete by lossless formats that take advantage of the abundance of cheap storage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember MP3s .
They made a nice way to conveniently transport your music until they were first replaced by better lossy formats , and then made obsolete by lossless formats that take advantage of the abundance of cheap storage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember MP3s.
They made a nice way to conveniently transport your music until they were first replaced by better lossy formats, and then made obsolete by lossless formats that take advantage of the abundance of cheap storage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31542086</id>
	<title>burn burn burn</title>
	<author>anonymousNR</author>
	<datestamp>1269028920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The multiple references to "burning" an already "burned" CD clearly shouts that people really forgot how CDs work.
<br>
Time to move on with Mp3 and probably in future get a better format, not travel back to CD and Vinyl.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The multiple references to " burning " an already " burned " CD clearly shouts that people really forgot how CDs work .
Time to move on with Mp3 and probably in future get a better format , not travel back to CD and Vinyl .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The multiple references to "burning" an already "burned" CD clearly shouts that people really forgot how CDs work.
Time to move on with Mp3 and probably in future get a better format, not travel back to CD and Vinyl.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540844</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269023760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You have, as a physical object, evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media.</p></div></blockquote><p>
What license? Buying a CD does not involve a license of any sort.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have , as a physical object , evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media .
What license ?
Buying a CD does not involve a license of any sort .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have, as a physical object, evidence of your licensing of personal enjoyment of that media.
What license?
Buying a CD does not involve a license of any sort.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539798</id>
	<title>Re:Just like cassettes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269020160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't feel like I "own" a song unless I have it on CD (or cassette, vinyl, etc).</p></div><p>I don't mind digital downloads so long as they're high quality and unencumbered by DRM.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't feel like I " own " a song unless I have it on CD ( or cassette , vinyl , etc ) .I do n't mind digital downloads so long as they 're high quality and unencumbered by DRM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't feel like I "own" a song unless I have it on CD (or cassette, vinyl, etc).I don't mind digital downloads so long as they're high quality and unencumbered by DRM.
	</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What's the first thing you would do with a CD?</title>
	<author>Mr. DOS</author>
	<datestamp>1269012660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try &ldquo;rip it&rdquo;.</p><p>Who burns CD's any more?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try    rip it    .Who burns CD 's any more ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try “rip it”.Who burns CD's any more?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31542380</id>
	<title>Re:I Am Shocked!</title>
	<author>Bobb Sledd</author>
	<datestamp>1269030360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think there will really ever be lossless compression for audio (at least for streamable media).  I may be wrong, but the interest is always in saving bandwidth, not necessarily perfect fidelity reproduction.</p><p>There are (truly) lossless audio compressors that can gain better than 52\% compression rates, which is far better than using ZIP or LZW.</p><p>But at some point, to get data at manageable sizes, you MUST go with lossy compression.</p><p>Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.  JPG, MPG (almost all streaming video formats for that matter), use lossy compression.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think there will really ever be lossless compression for audio ( at least for streamable media ) .
I may be wrong , but the interest is always in saving bandwidth , not necessarily perfect fidelity reproduction.There are ( truly ) lossless audio compressors that can gain better than 52 \ % compression rates , which is far better than using ZIP or LZW.But at some point , to get data at manageable sizes , you MUST go with lossy compression.Nothing wrong with that , in my opinion .
JPG , MPG ( almost all streaming video formats for that matter ) , use lossy compression .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think there will really ever be lossless compression for audio (at least for streamable media).
I may be wrong, but the interest is always in saving bandwidth, not necessarily perfect fidelity reproduction.There are (truly) lossless audio compressors that can gain better than 52\% compression rates, which is far better than using ZIP or LZW.But at some point, to get data at manageable sizes, you MUST go with lossy compression.Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.
JPG, MPG (almost all streaming video formats for that matter), use lossy compression.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538302</id>
	<title>Re:It only took a decade or so...</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1269015660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You'd think the music companies would have at least one economist on staff who could explain to them, slowly and gently, that under certain circumstances it is actually possible to make more money when each individual unit is priced lower.</p></div></blockquote><p>You'd think, if you are spouting about economics, that you'd have found an economist to gently and slowly explain to you the meaning of 'elastic' and 'inelastic' markets.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Or, IOW, not lowering their prices isn't a sign they don't have such an economist as it isn't at all clear that lowering their prices will lead to significantly increased sales.  People don't buy CD's like toothpaste (because that brand is on sale this week), they buy them because they like the artist.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'd think the music companies would have at least one economist on staff who could explain to them , slowly and gently , that under certain circumstances it is actually possible to make more money when each individual unit is priced lower.You 'd think , if you are spouting about economics , that you 'd have found an economist to gently and slowly explain to you the meaning of 'elastic ' and 'inelastic ' markets .
  Or , IOW , not lowering their prices is n't a sign they do n't have such an economist as it is n't at all clear that lowering their prices will lead to significantly increased sales .
People do n't buy CD 's like toothpaste ( because that brand is on sale this week ) , they buy them because they like the artist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'd think the music companies would have at least one economist on staff who could explain to them, slowly and gently, that under certain circumstances it is actually possible to make more money when each individual unit is priced lower.You'd think, if you are spouting about economics, that you'd have found an economist to gently and slowly explain to you the meaning of 'elastic' and 'inelastic' markets.
  Or, IOW, not lowering their prices isn't a sign they don't have such an economist as it isn't at all clear that lowering their prices will lead to significantly increased sales.
People don't buy CD's like toothpaste (because that brand is on sale this week), they buy them because they like the artist.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31538932</id>
	<title>Thanks to all my pirate friends!</title>
	<author>newdsfornerds</author>
	<datestamp>1269017400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Piracy works for the good of most! Thanks, Bram Cohen!
Not that I condone or would ever steal anyone's IP.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Piracy works for the good of most !
Thanks , Bram Cohen !
Not that I condone or would ever steal anyone 's IP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Piracy works for the good of most!
Thanks, Bram Cohen!
Not that I condone or would ever steal anyone's IP.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539090</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>dubbreak</author>
	<datestamp>1269017880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.</p></div><p>Or maybe they are nostalgic, or maybe they like the physical medium (i.e. packaging with artwork and liner notes, the physical aspect of setting up a record and having to flip it).<br> <br>
I have a pretty decent vinyl collection. Yeah, CDs in general are a lot more reliable but vinyl is fun. For some reason flipping through records is a lot more fun than CDs. Listeing to music only vinyl is more of a ceremony than with CDs or pure digital formats (mp3s, flacs etc). Ever sat around with your friends, a stack of records and a bottle of fine hard liquor? Doing the same with mp3s or cds just isn't the same.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.Or maybe they are nostalgic , or maybe they like the physical medium ( i.e .
packaging with artwork and liner notes , the physical aspect of setting up a record and having to flip it ) .
I have a pretty decent vinyl collection .
Yeah , CDs in general are a lot more reliable but vinyl is fun .
For some reason flipping through records is a lot more fun than CDs .
Listeing to music only vinyl is more of a ceremony than with CDs or pure digital formats ( mp3s , flacs etc ) .
Ever sat around with your friends , a stack of records and a bottle of fine hard liquor ?
Doing the same with mp3s or cds just is n't the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vinyl sales are rising because people are fools.Or maybe they are nostalgic, or maybe they like the physical medium (i.e.
packaging with artwork and liner notes, the physical aspect of setting up a record and having to flip it).
I have a pretty decent vinyl collection.
Yeah, CDs in general are a lot more reliable but vinyl is fun.
For some reason flipping through records is a lot more fun than CDs.
Listeing to music only vinyl is more of a ceremony than with CDs or pure digital formats (mp3s, flacs etc).
Ever sat around with your friends, a stack of records and a bottle of fine hard liquor?
Doing the same with mp3s or cds just isn't the same.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31546294</id>
	<title>Cd sales are on the way out no matter the cost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269007320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you tried to by a CD player lately. My last look for one turned up about 3 in the shop, compared to about 30 MP3 docks. If you can't buy the hardware to play the things why would you buy them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you tried to by a CD player lately .
My last look for one turned up about 3 in the shop , compared to about 30 MP3 docks .
If you ca n't buy the hardware to play the things why would you buy them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you tried to by a CD player lately.
My last look for one turned up about 3 in the shop, compared to about 30 MP3 docks.
If you can't buy the hardware to play the things why would you buy them?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539148</id>
	<title>woody allen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269018000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>to mutate and pervert a woody allen quote:</p><p>"you're a music company. if you want to sell more records, make better music."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>to mutate and pervert a woody allen quote : " you 're a music company .
if you want to sell more records , make better music .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to mutate and pervert a woody allen quote:"you're a music company.
if you want to sell more records, make better music.
"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540514</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Jeff Carr</author>
	<datestamp>1269022620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember DVD's, They made such pretty coffee coasters after I ripped all of their video to my media server.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember DVD 's , They made such pretty coffee coasters after I ripped all of their video to my media server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember DVD's, They made such pretty coffee coasters after I ripped all of their video to my media server.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31540034</id>
	<title>Re:Shocking</title>
	<author>bennomatic</author>
	<datestamp>1269020880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read an interesting article in Wired a few years back--gee, maybe more than a decade ago--that put an interesting spin on the decision not to drop CD prices.
<br> <br>
The idea is that as the cost to produce the new medium dropped, they could take that overhead and invest it in riskier artists.  Where they used to only risk a contract with a band that might sell 100,000 LPs, they could now act like indy labels and take on bands that might only sell 10,000 CDs.
<br> <br>
Doing so, according to the article, led in part to the explosion of options in music in the 90s.  Rap/Hip-hop, grunge, etc., all would have been relegated to minor labels with minor distribution channels.  Green Day would have stayed on local college radio.  Snoop Dog would still be rapping in his parents' garage.  Etc.
<br> <br>
As such, even with the much higher prices, album sales soared.  You can argue about where the value is, but clearly the buyers were interested in having the music that *they* wanted being available on the shelves.
<br> <br>
Take with appropriate amounts of salt.  It may be that without the majors seeing this opportunities, some of the minors would have become bigger, faster.  But it's an interesting take.
<br> <br>
That having been said, they also made a bazillion dollars of those risky investments, so it's time for them to stop living off yesteryear's biz model.  I'm sure they'll come up with some new way to stay rich after the CDs get cheaper.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read an interesting article in Wired a few years back--gee , maybe more than a decade ago--that put an interesting spin on the decision not to drop CD prices .
The idea is that as the cost to produce the new medium dropped , they could take that overhead and invest it in riskier artists .
Where they used to only risk a contract with a band that might sell 100,000 LPs , they could now act like indy labels and take on bands that might only sell 10,000 CDs .
Doing so , according to the article , led in part to the explosion of options in music in the 90s .
Rap/Hip-hop , grunge , etc. , all would have been relegated to minor labels with minor distribution channels .
Green Day would have stayed on local college radio .
Snoop Dog would still be rapping in his parents ' garage .
Etc . As such , even with the much higher prices , album sales soared .
You can argue about where the value is , but clearly the buyers were interested in having the music that * they * wanted being available on the shelves .
Take with appropriate amounts of salt .
It may be that without the majors seeing this opportunities , some of the minors would have become bigger , faster .
But it 's an interesting take .
That having been said , they also made a bazillion dollars of those risky investments , so it 's time for them to stop living off yesteryear 's biz model .
I 'm sure they 'll come up with some new way to stay rich after the CDs get cheaper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read an interesting article in Wired a few years back--gee, maybe more than a decade ago--that put an interesting spin on the decision not to drop CD prices.
The idea is that as the cost to produce the new medium dropped, they could take that overhead and invest it in riskier artists.
Where they used to only risk a contract with a band that might sell 100,000 LPs, they could now act like indy labels and take on bands that might only sell 10,000 CDs.
Doing so, according to the article, led in part to the explosion of options in music in the 90s.
Rap/Hip-hop, grunge, etc., all would have been relegated to minor labels with minor distribution channels.
Green Day would have stayed on local college radio.
Snoop Dog would still be rapping in his parents' garage.
Etc.
 
As such, even with the much higher prices, album sales soared.
You can argue about where the value is, but clearly the buyers were interested in having the music that *they* wanted being available on the shelves.
Take with appropriate amounts of salt.
It may be that without the majors seeing this opportunities, some of the minors would have become bigger, faster.
But it's an interesting take.
That having been said, they also made a bazillion dollars of those risky investments, so it's time for them to stop living off yesteryear's biz model.
I'm sure they'll come up with some new way to stay rich after the CDs get cheaper.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31537252</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269013080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Audio CDs aren't quaint. They're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded music. The data is unencumbered by DRM, you can lend CDs to your friends, you can sell CDs and you can listen to your CDs on as many devices as you like. I don't pay for downloads. I pay for CDs or get my music for free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Audio CDs are n't quaint .
They 're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded music .
The data is unencumbered by DRM , you can lend CDs to your friends , you can sell CDs and you can listen to your CDs on as many devices as you like .
I do n't pay for downloads .
I pay for CDs or get my music for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Audio CDs aren't quaint.
They're reliable read-only long term storage media for losslessly encoded music.
The data is unencumbered by DRM, you can lend CDs to your friends, you can sell CDs and you can listen to your CDs on as many devices as you like.
I don't pay for downloads.
I pay for CDs or get my music for free.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_19_139203.31539220</id>
	<title>Re:CDs! How *quaint*</title>
	<author>Aradiel</author>
	<datestamp>1269018240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, as soon as you said "unencumbered by DRM" I remembered Sony's Spiderman soundtrack (as well as a few other albums at the time, e.g. Depeche Mode's Playing The Angel) and stopped reading.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , as soon as you said " unencumbered by DRM " I remembered Sony 's Spiderman soundtrack ( as well as a few other albums at the time , e.g .
Depeche Mode 's Playing The Angel ) and stopped reading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, as soon as you said "unencumbered by DRM" I remembered Sony's Spiderman soundtrack (as well as a few other albums at the time, e.g.
Depeche Mode's Playing The Angel) and stopped reading.</sentencetext>
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