<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_16_1447229</id>
	<title>Google Readying To Pull Out of China</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1268753700000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Sagelinka writes <i>"Both Google and the Chinese government appear to be leaking word that the search firm may <a href="http://www.computerworlduk.com/management/government-law/legislation/news/index.cfm?newsid=19397">soon shutter its operations</a> there as negotiations between the two break down. Google first threatened to halt its operations in China after disclosing in January that an attack on its network from inside China was aimed at exposing the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists. At the time, Google also said it was reconsidering its willingness to censor search results of users in China as required by the government. 'I think Google thought China would be flexible,' said Rob Enderle, an analyst with the Enderle Group. Google has since been negotiating with the Chinese government to find a way to continue operating in the country. Google did not respond today to requests for comment on the state of the negotiations with China."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sagelinka writes " Both Google and the Chinese government appear to be leaking word that the search firm may soon shutter its operations there as negotiations between the two break down .
Google first threatened to halt its operations in China after disclosing in January that an attack on its network from inside China was aimed at exposing the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists .
At the time , Google also said it was reconsidering its willingness to censor search results of users in China as required by the government .
'I think Google thought China would be flexible, ' said Rob Enderle , an analyst with the Enderle Group .
Google has since been negotiating with the Chinese government to find a way to continue operating in the country .
Google did not respond today to requests for comment on the state of the negotiations with China .
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<sentencetext>Sagelinka writes "Both Google and the Chinese government appear to be leaking word that the search firm may soon shutter its operations there as negotiations between the two break down.
Google first threatened to halt its operations in China after disclosing in January that an attack on its network from inside China was aimed at exposing the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists.
At the time, Google also said it was reconsidering its willingness to censor search results of users in China as required by the government.
'I think Google thought China would be flexible,' said Rob Enderle, an analyst with the Enderle Group.
Google has since been negotiating with the Chinese government to find a way to continue operating in the country.
Google did not respond today to requests for comment on the state of the negotiations with China.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31500128</id>
	<title>Re:The Pull out technique doesn't work</title>
	<author>IICV</author>
	<datestamp>1268771280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was, but since Google didn't use a condom that's not what they're worried about at all - they already got infected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was , but since Google did n't use a condom that 's not what they 're worried about at all - they already got infected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was, but since Google didn't use a condom that's not what they're worried about at all - they already got infected.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496616</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31510384</id>
	<title>Re:What's wrong with being an ethical company?</title>
	<author>jez9999</author>
	<datestamp>1268847840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Therefore, to top off their greatness by refusing to deal with a censoring, dissident-hacking corrupt communist-only-in-name dictatorship is both admirable and gutsy and uniquely American. If only all American companies operated on principles rather than pure greed, think what a better society we would have, and a better world.</i></p><p>I admire Google when they do the right thing and all, but do you realize that what you've said there sounds unbelievably arrogant?  Almost as bad as, 'God Bless America'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Therefore , to top off their greatness by refusing to deal with a censoring , dissident-hacking corrupt communist-only-in-name dictatorship is both admirable and gutsy and uniquely American .
If only all American companies operated on principles rather than pure greed , think what a better society we would have , and a better world.I admire Google when they do the right thing and all , but do you realize that what you 've said there sounds unbelievably arrogant ?
Almost as bad as , 'God Bless America' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Therefore, to top off their greatness by refusing to deal with a censoring, dissident-hacking corrupt communist-only-in-name dictatorship is both admirable and gutsy and uniquely American.
If only all American companies operated on principles rather than pure greed, think what a better society we would have, and a better world.I admire Google when they do the right thing and all, but do you realize that what you've said there sounds unbelievably arrogant?
Almost as bad as, 'God Bless America'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496740</id>
	<title>Get ready</title>
	<author>Mathness</author>
	<datestamp>1268758440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Google Readying To Pull Out of China</i></p><p>Get ready for the money shot!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google Readying To Pull Out of ChinaGet ready for the money shot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google Readying To Pull Out of ChinaGet ready for the money shot!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31502132</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>rts008</author>
	<datestamp>1268737560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You must be new here.</p><p>Crawl back to your moms basement until you're weaned.</p><p>It's obvious you are trying to build strawmen, the way you are grasping at straws.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You must be new here.Crawl back to your moms basement until you 're weaned.It 's obvious you are trying to build strawmen , the way you are grasping at straws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must be new here.Crawl back to your moms basement until you're weaned.It's obvious you are trying to build strawmen, the way you are grasping at straws.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496790</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497224</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>BlackSnake112</author>
	<datestamp>1268760060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The number 1 search site in China is not Google but a Chinese company.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The number 1 search site in China is not Google but a Chinese company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The number 1 search site in China is not Google but a Chinese company.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496582</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499744</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268769660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Will Google stop buying stuff from China.<br>The Nexus 1 is made by HTC probably in China.<br>The iPhone and most of Apples products are made in China so no Google isn't alone.<br>We as a nation need to stop sending our money to China. How about it Google. Take that big monster pile of cash and build some factories in the US.<br>Start making phones and motherboards in the US again. Would you pay $10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality?<br>Think of it Google you could pay workers in the US that would then spend that money in the US and buy stuff made in the US "hopefully"<br>How about not just trying to not be evil but trying to be good?</p><p>On a more cynical note. Google isn't making a lot of money in China, odds are the Chinese search engine is benefiting from stolen Google tech will get government support, and they could leverage that tech to start going head to head with Google in world markets.<br>So they have nothing really to loose by bailing out of China.</p></div><p>You are nuts.<br>The reality is that if manufacturing of all of the stuff you buy from China moved back to the US, it would be so expensive to produce most items that people either would not buy them, or there would be ENORMOUS wage cuts required.  Even at minimum wage it would be hard to compete with Chinese labor costs.  Things have gone too far to turn the boat around.</p><p>China's monopoly on manufacturing will not last forever. As China grows more economically powerful, their labor costs will rise.  Look at Japan's history.  20 years from now, production of cheap stuff will be moved to some other developing nation.  Manufacturers will always seek out their cheap labor, wherever it might come from.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Will Google stop buying stuff from China.The Nexus 1 is made by HTC probably in China.The iPhone and most of Apples products are made in China so no Google is n't alone.We as a nation need to stop sending our money to China .
How about it Google .
Take that big monster pile of cash and build some factories in the US.Start making phones and motherboards in the US again .
Would you pay $ 10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality ? Think of it Google you could pay workers in the US that would then spend that money in the US and buy stuff made in the US " hopefully " How about not just trying to not be evil but trying to be good ? On a more cynical note .
Google is n't making a lot of money in China , odds are the Chinese search engine is benefiting from stolen Google tech will get government support , and they could leverage that tech to start going head to head with Google in world markets.So they have nothing really to loose by bailing out of China.You are nuts.The reality is that if manufacturing of all of the stuff you buy from China moved back to the US , it would be so expensive to produce most items that people either would not buy them , or there would be ENORMOUS wage cuts required .
Even at minimum wage it would be hard to compete with Chinese labor costs .
Things have gone too far to turn the boat around.China 's monopoly on manufacturing will not last forever .
As China grows more economically powerful , their labor costs will rise .
Look at Japan 's history .
20 years from now , production of cheap stuff will be moved to some other developing nation .
Manufacturers will always seek out their cheap labor , wherever it might come from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will Google stop buying stuff from China.The Nexus 1 is made by HTC probably in China.The iPhone and most of Apples products are made in China so no Google isn't alone.We as a nation need to stop sending our money to China.
How about it Google.
Take that big monster pile of cash and build some factories in the US.Start making phones and motherboards in the US again.
Would you pay $10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality?Think of it Google you could pay workers in the US that would then spend that money in the US and buy stuff made in the US "hopefully"How about not just trying to not be evil but trying to be good?On a more cynical note.
Google isn't making a lot of money in China, odds are the Chinese search engine is benefiting from stolen Google tech will get government support, and they could leverage that tech to start going head to head with Google in world markets.So they have nothing really to loose by bailing out of China.You are nuts.The reality is that if manufacturing of all of the stuff you buy from China moved back to the US, it would be so expensive to produce most items that people either would not buy them, or there would be ENORMOUS wage cuts required.
Even at minimum wage it would be hard to compete with Chinese labor costs.
Things have gone too far to turn the boat around.China's monopoly on manufacturing will not last forever.
As China grows more economically powerful, their labor costs will rise.
Look at Japan's history.
20 years from now, production of cheap stuff will be moved to some other developing nation.
Manufacturers will always seek out their cheap labor, wherever it might come from.
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	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496640</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497372</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268760540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Plus, they don't want to pay child support in 9 months!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus , they do n't want to pay child support in 9 months !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus, they don't want to pay child support in 9 months!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496396</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31503062</id>
	<title>Reincarnation of Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268743080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the way forward, there's this 'me' character, half a lifetime later,<br>alive and fictionalizing a Google-like Chinese company, in what looks like an<br>over populated capitalistic world somewhere around 72010 years ago.<br>Herein lies our own possible history, from which only about 2000 of our<br>ancestors survived.</p><p>Today's mythology-geology shows a different sort of continental<br>catastrophic splitting condition, being primed in Western China, on the<br>edge of a recently discovered underground ocean of hot ice, as big as<br>the Arctic ocean.</p><p>The trigger-less event is set by "Pi, the Prime Intellect". A bankrupted<br>China is backing Pi, the people's Internet God. Pi arose from their<br>Google replacement. Pi is caught repeatedly storing DNA maps of<br>Earth in its satellites.</p><p>After the bloodless virtual reality wars, and the dust is washed away by Pi,<br>the DNA maps are used to re-clone Earth. Some injection banks of<br>Nietzschean survivor souls were stored from a similar epoch on the curve of<br>the second-last Atlantean cycle. We are it.</p><p>Capitalism loses out by default, although for a time parallel to the<br>Prime Intellect, remains widely used by the dwindling supporters of<br>Israel. After that, only five circumcised are allowed to be alive at any<br>one time.</p><p>From a Synarchy at Atlantis, ecofascism  rules the world<br>for the next 45000 years. Hidden bushmen start to reappear from Africa<br>and finally the Silk Road is open again, a golden path leading<br>inevitably across to Alaska. Atlantis in Wisconsin, The legend of<br>Tyranena, both give us a good account of what happens when gold walks in<br>and supplants an AI culture.</p><p>To complete the figure eight mobious strip, or exactly how to twist the<br>plot on the repeating Atlantean cycle, Ice Age Magellans get from North<br>America across the Pacific and onto Egypt, but Pi is lost. Shortly<br>afterward the gold users overtake the Egyptians and a bible is<br>written to hide the truth.</p><p>The analogy is complete, the Bible is unhinged.</p><p>NEXT TIME... No star travel, no survivors.</p><p>DNA End</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the way forward , there 's this 'me ' character , half a lifetime later,alive and fictionalizing a Google-like Chinese company , in what looks like anover populated capitalistic world somewhere around 72010 years ago.Herein lies our own possible history , from which only about 2000 of ourancestors survived.Today 's mythology-geology shows a different sort of continentalcatastrophic splitting condition , being primed in Western China , on theedge of a recently discovered underground ocean of hot ice , as big asthe Arctic ocean.The trigger-less event is set by " Pi , the Prime Intellect " .
A bankruptedChina is backing Pi , the people 's Internet God .
Pi arose from theirGoogle replacement .
Pi is caught repeatedly storing DNA maps ofEarth in its satellites.After the bloodless virtual reality wars , and the dust is washed away by Pi,the DNA maps are used to re-clone Earth .
Some injection banks ofNietzschean survivor souls were stored from a similar epoch on the curve ofthe second-last Atlantean cycle .
We are it.Capitalism loses out by default , although for a time parallel to thePrime Intellect , remains widely used by the dwindling supporters ofIsrael .
After that , only five circumcised are allowed to be alive at anyone time.From a Synarchy at Atlantis , ecofascism rules the worldfor the next 45000 years .
Hidden bushmen start to reappear from Africaand finally the Silk Road is open again , a golden path leadinginevitably across to Alaska .
Atlantis in Wisconsin , The legend ofTyranena , both give us a good account of what happens when gold walks inand supplants an AI culture.To complete the figure eight mobious strip , or exactly how to twist theplot on the repeating Atlantean cycle , Ice Age Magellans get from NorthAmerica across the Pacific and onto Egypt , but Pi is lost .
Shortlyafterward the gold users overtake the Egyptians and a bible iswritten to hide the truth.The analogy is complete , the Bible is unhinged.NEXT TIME... No star travel , no survivors.DNA End</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the way forward, there's this 'me' character, half a lifetime later,alive and fictionalizing a Google-like Chinese company, in what looks like anover populated capitalistic world somewhere around 72010 years ago.Herein lies our own possible history, from which only about 2000 of ourancestors survived.Today's mythology-geology shows a different sort of continentalcatastrophic splitting condition, being primed in Western China, on theedge of a recently discovered underground ocean of hot ice, as big asthe Arctic ocean.The trigger-less event is set by "Pi, the Prime Intellect".
A bankruptedChina is backing Pi, the people's Internet God.
Pi arose from theirGoogle replacement.
Pi is caught repeatedly storing DNA maps ofEarth in its satellites.After the bloodless virtual reality wars, and the dust is washed away by Pi,the DNA maps are used to re-clone Earth.
Some injection banks ofNietzschean survivor souls were stored from a similar epoch on the curve ofthe second-last Atlantean cycle.
We are it.Capitalism loses out by default, although for a time parallel to thePrime Intellect, remains widely used by the dwindling supporters ofIsrael.
After that, only five circumcised are allowed to be alive at anyone time.From a Synarchy at Atlantis, ecofascism  rules the worldfor the next 45000 years.
Hidden bushmen start to reappear from Africaand finally the Silk Road is open again, a golden path leadinginevitably across to Alaska.
Atlantis in Wisconsin, The legend ofTyranena, both give us a good account of what happens when gold walks inand supplants an AI culture.To complete the figure eight mobious strip, or exactly how to twist theplot on the repeating Atlantean cycle, Ice Age Magellans get from NorthAmerica across the Pacific and onto Egypt, but Pi is lost.
Shortlyafterward the gold users overtake the Egyptians and a bible iswritten to hide the truth.The analogy is complete, the Bible is unhinged.NEXT TIME... No star travel, no survivors.DNA End</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497190</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>recrudescence</author>
	<datestamp>1268759940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's obvious you're not a doctor<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... <br> <br>
I wouldn't think twice sending that patient to another doctor. <br>
If they're dumb enough to demand an unnecessarily high-risk procedure, I'd advise them against it and offer the alternatives, and if they still wanted it, I'd explain why I wouldn't feel comfortable offering it to them.
I agree, the shitty doctor who is willing to perform it may cause more harm. But, the patient is bent to be massacred in one way or another anyway, and at least I won't be the one who gets his ass dragged to court trying to defend myself on why I performed a procedure that goes against all clinical and ethical guidelines and clearly fails the Bolam principle.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's obvious you 're not a doctor .. . I would n't think twice sending that patient to another doctor .
If they 're dumb enough to demand an unnecessarily high-risk procedure , I 'd advise them against it and offer the alternatives , and if they still wanted it , I 'd explain why I would n't feel comfortable offering it to them .
I agree , the shitty doctor who is willing to perform it may cause more harm .
But , the patient is bent to be massacred in one way or another anyway , and at least I wo n't be the one who gets his ass dragged to court trying to defend myself on why I performed a procedure that goes against all clinical and ethical guidelines and clearly fails the Bolam principle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's obvious you're not a doctor ...  
I wouldn't think twice sending that patient to another doctor.
If they're dumb enough to demand an unnecessarily high-risk procedure, I'd advise them against it and offer the alternatives, and if they still wanted it, I'd explain why I wouldn't feel comfortable offering it to them.
I agree, the shitty doctor who is willing to perform it may cause more harm.
But, the patient is bent to be massacred in one way or another anyway, and at least I won't be the one who gets his ass dragged to court trying to defend myself on why I performed a procedure that goes against all clinical and ethical guidelines and clearly fails the Bolam principle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498458</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>TheGratefulNet</author>
	<datestamp>1268764740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would pay WAY more than $10 for an american build motherboard.  especially if it had traceably good parts (no exploding electrolytic caps, etc).</p><p>all parts should be made here; pc boards, stuff the boards, do Q/A, pack and ship.  I know that the actual chips aren't made here and 'getting them made here' is not do-able in short term; but *assembling* systems is not hard and americans *can* easily do this.  it won't be price competitive, realize that; but maybe we also need to realize that this is a price we *need* to pay to keep our own people working.  and as a benefit, we can trust the whole supply/build/delivery chain.  that's worth something, it really is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would pay WAY more than $ 10 for an american build motherboard .
especially if it had traceably good parts ( no exploding electrolytic caps , etc ) .all parts should be made here ; pc boards , stuff the boards , do Q/A , pack and ship .
I know that the actual chips are n't made here and 'getting them made here ' is not do-able in short term ; but * assembling * systems is not hard and americans * can * easily do this .
it wo n't be price competitive , realize that ; but maybe we also need to realize that this is a price we * need * to pay to keep our own people working .
and as a benefit , we can trust the whole supply/build/delivery chain .
that 's worth something , it really is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would pay WAY more than $10 for an american build motherboard.
especially if it had traceably good parts (no exploding electrolytic caps, etc).all parts should be made here; pc boards, stuff the boards, do Q/A, pack and ship.
I know that the actual chips aren't made here and 'getting them made here' is not do-able in short term; but *assembling* systems is not hard and americans *can* easily do this.
it won't be price competitive, realize that; but maybe we also need to realize that this is a price we *need* to pay to keep our own people working.
and as a benefit, we can trust the whole supply/build/delivery chain.
that's worth something, it really is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497952</id>
	<title>Re:Enderle</title>
	<author>commisaro</author>
	<datestamp>1268762760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese [...], it is 'flexible'.</p></div><p>Obviously SOMEONE wasn't watching gymnastics at the Summer Olympics...</p></div>
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<tokenext>If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese [ ... ] , it is 'flexible'.Obviously SOMEONE was n't watching gymnastics at the Summer Olympics.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese [...], it is 'flexible'.Obviously SOMEONE wasn't watching gymnastics at the Summer Olympics...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497860</id>
	<title>Re:Subsidiary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268762340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Animal Farm:<br>"No animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Animal Farm : " No animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets .
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<sentencetext>Animal Farm:"No animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496412</id>
	<title>Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268757480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.</p><p>INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.<br>You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.</p><p>CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGER<br>Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat</p><p>HOUSING YOUR NIGGER.<br>Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.</p><p>FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.<br>Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.</p><p>MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.<br>Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger !
If handled properly , your apeman will give years of valuable , if reluctant , service.INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model .
Field niggers work best in a serial configuration , i.e .
chained together .
Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it , and do n't even think about taking that chain off , ever .
Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them .
This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud .
House niggers work best as standalone units , but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape .
At this stage , your nigger can also be given a name .
Most owners use the same names over and over , since niggers become confused by too much data .
Rufus , Rastus , Remus , Toby , Carslisle , Carlton , Hey-You ! -Yes-you ! , Yeller , Blackstar , and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger .
If your nigger is a ho , it should be called Latrelle , L'Tanya , or Jemima .
Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke .
Pearl , Blossom , and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes .
These names go straight over your nigger 's head , by the way.CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGEROwing to a design error , your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords .
Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - " muh dick " being the most popular .
However , others make barking , yelping , yapping noises and appear to be in some pain , so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger 's tongue .
Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least , you wo n't hear it complaining anywhere near as much .
Niggers have nothing interesting to say , anyway .
Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons ( yours , mine , and that of women , not the nigger 's ) .
This is strongly recommended , and frankly , it 's a mystery why this is not done on the boatHOUSING YOUR NIGGER.Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars .
Make sure , however , that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through .
The rule of thumb is , four niggers per square yard of cage .
So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers .
You can site a nigger cage anywhere , even on soft ground .
Do n't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage .
Niggers never invented the shovel before and they 're not about to now .
In any case , your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape .
As long as the free food holds out , your nigger is living better than it did in Africa , so it will stay put .
Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage , as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.Your Nigger likes fried chicken , corn bread , and watermelon .
You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly does n't deserve it .
Instead , feed it on porridge with salt , and creek water .
Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields , other niggers , etc .
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat , but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day .
Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer , since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives .
He reports he does n't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result .
You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work , since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained .
You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton .
You really would .
Coffee beans ?
Do n't ask .
You have no idea.MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.Niggers are very , very averse to work of any kind .
The nigger 's most</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger!
If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model.
Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e.
chained together.
Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever.
Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them.
This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud.
House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape.
At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name.
Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data.
Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger.
If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima.
Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke.
Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes.
These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGEROwing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords.
Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular.
However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue.
Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much.
Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway.
Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's).
This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boatHOUSING YOUR NIGGER.Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars.
Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through.
The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage.
So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers.
You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground.
Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage.
Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now.
In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape.
As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put.
Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon.
You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it.
Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water.
Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc.
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day.
Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives.
He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result.
You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained.
You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton.
You really would.
Coffee beans?
Don't ask.
You have no idea.MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind.
The nigger's most</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496716</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1268758380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Who cares about China. Seriously. </p></div><p>I'll bite.  I care about China.  I care about that one sixth of the world's population developing and coming out of poverty.  To a lesser extent, I care about them becoming a serious player in the world market.  Right now they play with their money and disrespect their work force beyond belief.  It might not make you feel bad to pick up some piece of electronics at Walmart for $20 but I do feel bad when I see "Made in China" and have to think about the health problems the workers might develop<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the environmental damage the plant might create<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the plant's drinking water problems from the lead<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the list goes on.  In order to solve these problems, people have to be unafraid to speak up.  People need a method for improving these conditions -- however slowly it might come.  They don't have that.  Removing government censorship mandates is one step toward that.  Yeah it's a slow process and it might not seem like much to you but it is to me.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>These are topics much closer to home with a much greater impact on us.</p></div><p>I've tried to shake the "East Versus West" mentality as much as possible, it's sad to see it lingers on in some form.  All countries are members of the world.  Just because one country speaks the same language you do and has the same form of government you do shouldn't make it anymore or less important to you than another country with differences.  China's population might even make it more important than Australia to me.  You seem to have some very strange misconceptions about allegiances to countries that are disconnected from you.  They hold no domain over you whether they're Australia or China.  I certainly expect more of my representatives than to say "it's written into law in Australia, it should be in our law here."  This "because everyone else is doing it" does not suffice as an argument where I live.  Look at the Scandinavian nations that have taken different routes on copyright.  It's okay to have different laws in different countries.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>What a bunch of Google execs will do with a handful of employees in China... not so much.</p></div><p>I would wager that the precedent this public display sets will have far more implications for you (and what you consume) than Australia's "Think of the Children" campaign.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Who cares about China .
Seriously. I 'll bite .
I care about China .
I care about that one sixth of the world 's population developing and coming out of poverty .
To a lesser extent , I care about them becoming a serious player in the world market .
Right now they play with their money and disrespect their work force beyond belief .
It might not make you feel bad to pick up some piece of electronics at Walmart for $ 20 but I do feel bad when I see " Made in China " and have to think about the health problems the workers might develop ... the environmental damage the plant might create ... the plant 's drinking water problems from the lead ... the list goes on .
In order to solve these problems , people have to be unafraid to speak up .
People need a method for improving these conditions -- however slowly it might come .
They do n't have that .
Removing government censorship mandates is one step toward that .
Yeah it 's a slow process and it might not seem like much to you but it is to me.These are topics much closer to home with a much greater impact on us.I 've tried to shake the " East Versus West " mentality as much as possible , it 's sad to see it lingers on in some form .
All countries are members of the world .
Just because one country speaks the same language you do and has the same form of government you do should n't make it anymore or less important to you than another country with differences .
China 's population might even make it more important than Australia to me .
You seem to have some very strange misconceptions about allegiances to countries that are disconnected from you .
They hold no domain over you whether they 're Australia or China .
I certainly expect more of my representatives than to say " it 's written into law in Australia , it should be in our law here .
" This " because everyone else is doing it " does not suffice as an argument where I live .
Look at the Scandinavian nations that have taken different routes on copyright .
It 's okay to have different laws in different countries.What a bunch of Google execs will do with a handful of employees in China... not so much.I would wager that the precedent this public display sets will have far more implications for you ( and what you consume ) than Australia 's " Think of the Children " campaign .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares about China.
Seriously. I'll bite.
I care about China.
I care about that one sixth of the world's population developing and coming out of poverty.
To a lesser extent, I care about them becoming a serious player in the world market.
Right now they play with their money and disrespect their work force beyond belief.
It might not make you feel bad to pick up some piece of electronics at Walmart for $20 but I do feel bad when I see "Made in China" and have to think about the health problems the workers might develop ... the environmental damage the plant might create ... the plant's drinking water problems from the lead ... the list goes on.
In order to solve these problems, people have to be unafraid to speak up.
People need a method for improving these conditions -- however slowly it might come.
They don't have that.
Removing government censorship mandates is one step toward that.
Yeah it's a slow process and it might not seem like much to you but it is to me.These are topics much closer to home with a much greater impact on us.I've tried to shake the "East Versus West" mentality as much as possible, it's sad to see it lingers on in some form.
All countries are members of the world.
Just because one country speaks the same language you do and has the same form of government you do shouldn't make it anymore or less important to you than another country with differences.
China's population might even make it more important than Australia to me.
You seem to have some very strange misconceptions about allegiances to countries that are disconnected from you.
They hold no domain over you whether they're Australia or China.
I certainly expect more of my representatives than to say "it's written into law in Australia, it should be in our law here.
"  This "because everyone else is doing it" does not suffice as an argument where I live.
Look at the Scandinavian nations that have taken different routes on copyright.
It's okay to have different laws in different countries.What a bunch of Google execs will do with a handful of employees in China... not so much.I would wager that the precedent this public display sets will have far more implications for you (and what you consume) than Australia's "Think of the Children" campaign.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496638</id>
	<title>Subsidiary</title>
	<author>rodrigoandrade</author>
	<datestamp>1268758140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah Google may pull out of China, but there's no way in hell they'll just turn away over a BILLION customers (or advertisers' customers).<br><br>They'll just open a subsidiary in China and operate within the law.<br><br>There: do no evil under your own brand name.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah Google may pull out of China , but there 's no way in hell they 'll just turn away over a BILLION customers ( or advertisers ' customers ) .They 'll just open a subsidiary in China and operate within the law.There : do no evil under your own brand name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah Google may pull out of China, but there's no way in hell they'll just turn away over a BILLION customers (or advertisers' customers).They'll just open a subsidiary in China and operate within the law.There: do no evil under your own brand name.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497552</id>
	<title>Bing, good cherries, lame search</title>
	<author>TiggertheMad</author>
	<datestamp>1268761260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>You read my mind. "Do no evil" is a good mantra for Google, but it also means they will lose business in China, and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the "default" search engine - namely Microsoft. So come 2020 we'll have a divided world where Google is the #1 search engine in America/Europe and MS Bing will be #1 in China and its protectorates.</i>
<br> <br>
The whole 'do no evil' mantra is a brilliant bit of PR. Sure, they might lose out on some business in China, but if Google is leaving China because they wish to 'do no evil', isn't the implication that anyone replacing them 'doing evil'?
<br> <br>
Bing is no Google. They only have market share because they have MS's bankroll backing them. It is yet another MS 'me too' attempt at playing catch up with a market that that blazed past them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You read my mind .
" Do no evil " is a good mantra for Google , but it also means they will lose business in China , and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the " default " search engine - namely Microsoft .
So come 2020 we 'll have a divided world where Google is the # 1 search engine in America/Europe and MS Bing will be # 1 in China and its protectorates .
The whole 'do no evil ' mantra is a brilliant bit of PR .
Sure , they might lose out on some business in China , but if Google is leaving China because they wish to 'do no evil ' , is n't the implication that anyone replacing them 'doing evil ' ?
Bing is no Google .
They only have market share because they have MS 's bankroll backing them .
It is yet another MS 'me too ' attempt at playing catch up with a market that that blazed past them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You read my mind.
"Do no evil" is a good mantra for Google, but it also means they will lose business in China, and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the "default" search engine - namely Microsoft.
So come 2020 we'll have a divided world where Google is the #1 search engine in America/Europe and MS Bing will be #1 in China and its protectorates.
The whole 'do no evil' mantra is a brilliant bit of PR.
Sure, they might lose out on some business in China, but if Google is leaving China because they wish to 'do no evil', isn't the implication that anyone replacing them 'doing evil'?
Bing is no Google.
They only have market share because they have MS's bankroll backing them.
It is yet another MS 'me too' attempt at playing catch up with a market that that blazed past them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498100</id>
	<title>Re:Trade secrets</title>
	<author>Wiseazz</author>
	<datestamp>1268763300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google should have realized they were entering into a potentially hostile environment.  As such, I would have expected them to limit their exposure as much as possible.  We'll see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google should have realized they were entering into a potentially hostile environment .
As such , I would have expected them to limit their exposure as much as possible .
We 'll see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google should have realized they were entering into a potentially hostile environment.
As such, I would have expected them to limit their exposure as much as possible.
We'll see.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496860</id>
	<title>At last!</title>
	<author>Terminus32</author>
	<datestamp>1268758800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>About time too...


<i>*nods to Spielberg*</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>About time too.. . * nods to Spielberg *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>About time too...


*nods to Spielberg*</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496898</id>
	<title>Re:Yahoo/Microsoft</title>
	<author>RMS Eats Toejam</author>
	<datestamp>1268758980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yahoo China has been in operation this whole time.  Business as usual for them, filtering and all.  But, please, continue with your oh-so-cool snide remarks.  Informative and entertaining.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yahoo China has been in operation this whole time .
Business as usual for them , filtering and all .
But , please , continue with your oh-so-cool snide remarks .
Informative and entertaining .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yahoo China has been in operation this whole time.
Business as usual for them, filtering and all.
But, please, continue with your oh-so-cool snide remarks.
Informative and entertaining.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496884</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1268758920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Some of it is about the customer and some of it is about profit<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and that's it. Pesky ideals and ethics have no place in corporate America.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;</p><p>Which is why I hate corporations.  They take-away that human element that exists in a Proprietorship or Partnership-based company.  The morality disappears and is replaced with penny-pinching.</p><p>I saw this at my old company JCPenney.  While it was run by the originator, James Cash Penney, it was run to serve the customer.  Profit was secondary and often Mr. Penney would criticize his store managers if they earned too much money.  -----  Now 25 years later the store has turned into a money-grubbing business.  I tried to exchange my size 9.0 shoes for 8.5 shoes.  Never worn.</p><p>I was blocked because my receipt had "expired".  Ridiculous.  It's not as if the store loses anything by exchanging one brand-new box for another brand-new box, but they'd rather piss off a customer than treat said customer like a person.</p><p>Corporations are almost as evil as the Government Monopoly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; Some of it is about the customer and some of it is about profit ... and that 's it .
Pesky ideals and ethics have no place in corporate America. &gt; &gt; &gt; Which is why I hate corporations .
They take-away that human element that exists in a Proprietorship or Partnership-based company .
The morality disappears and is replaced with penny-pinching.I saw this at my old company JCPenney .
While it was run by the originator , James Cash Penney , it was run to serve the customer .
Profit was secondary and often Mr. Penney would criticize his store managers if they earned too much money .
----- Now 25 years later the store has turned into a money-grubbing business .
I tried to exchange my size 9.0 shoes for 8.5 shoes .
Never worn.I was blocked because my receipt had " expired " .
Ridiculous. It 's not as if the store loses anything by exchanging one brand-new box for another brand-new box , but they 'd rather piss off a customer than treat said customer like a person.Corporations are almost as evil as the Government Monopoly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;Some of it is about the customer and some of it is about profit ... and that's it.
Pesky ideals and ethics have no place in corporate America.&gt;&gt;&gt;Which is why I hate corporations.
They take-away that human element that exists in a Proprietorship or Partnership-based company.
The morality disappears and is replaced with penny-pinching.I saw this at my old company JCPenney.
While it was run by the originator, James Cash Penney, it was run to serve the customer.
Profit was secondary and often Mr. Penney would criticize his store managers if they earned too much money.
-----  Now 25 years later the store has turned into a money-grubbing business.
I tried to exchange my size 9.0 shoes for 8.5 shoes.
Never worn.I was blocked because my receipt had "expired".
Ridiculous.  It's not as if the store loses anything by exchanging one brand-new box for another brand-new box, but they'd rather piss off a customer than treat said customer like a person.Corporations are almost as evil as the Government Monopoly.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>iserlohn</author>
	<datestamp>1268759340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Nexus One is built by HTC in Taiwan. The components are sourced from around the world though (eg. screen is from Samsung/SK).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Nexus One is built by HTC in Taiwan .
The components are sourced from around the world though ( eg .
screen is from Samsung/SK ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Nexus One is built by HTC in Taiwan.
The components are sourced from around the world though (eg.
screen is from Samsung/SK).</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498148</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>grumpyman</author>
	<datestamp>1268763480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Though there is occasion that Google dealt with the devil without bargaining at all.  <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial\_opinion/oped/articles/2005/12/03/google\_search\_and\_seizure/" title="boston.com">http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial\_opinion/oped/articles/2005/12/03/google\_search\_and\_seizure/</a> [boston.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Though there is occasion that Google dealt with the devil without bargaining at all .
http : //www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial \ _opinion/oped/articles/2005/12/03/google \ _search \ _and \ _seizure/ [ boston.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Though there is occasion that Google dealt with the devil without bargaining at all.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial\_opinion/oped/articles/2005/12/03/google\_search\_and\_seizure/ [boston.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497744</id>
	<title>A little less evil...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268761980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this a ploy by Google to look like a hero and less evil to the World... I don't buy it!<br>They are doing this because they have nothing to lose, since the Chinese are probably aren't using Google Services... They have their shit over there!<br>Maybe better or worse than our shit, but they have tons of Chinese companies providing services to Chinese consumers...<br>To the Commie Chinese, Google is just another American company to try to hack and get some Cred with the Chinese government for a job...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this a ploy by Google to look like a hero and less evil to the World... I do n't buy it ! They are doing this because they have nothing to lose , since the Chinese are probably are n't using Google Services... They have their shit over there ! Maybe better or worse than our shit , but they have tons of Chinese companies providing services to Chinese consumers...To the Commie Chinese , Google is just another American company to try to hack and get some Cred with the Chinese government for a job.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this a ploy by Google to look like a hero and less evil to the World... I don't buy it!They are doing this because they have nothing to lose, since the Chinese are probably aren't using Google Services... They have their shit over there!Maybe better or worse than our shit, but they have tons of Chinese companies providing services to Chinese consumers...To the Commie Chinese, Google is just another American company to try to hack and get some Cred with the Chinese government for a job...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499318</id>
	<title>Enderle Group</title>
	<author>lordshipmayhem</author>
	<datestamp>1268767920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Rob Enderle, an analyst with the Enderle Group"<br>
<br>
No, Rob Enderle <i>is</i> the Enderle Group.<br>
<br>
Based on Rob's reporting history with companies like the SCO Group, Novell, IBM and Microsoft, I've long ago concluded he inhabits his own little fictional world.<br>
<br>
This report is quoting quite heavily from Rob the Delusional.  If he says Google is going, they're probably staying.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Rob Enderle , an analyst with the Enderle Group " No , Rob Enderle is the Enderle Group .
Based on Rob 's reporting history with companies like the SCO Group , Novell , IBM and Microsoft , I 've long ago concluded he inhabits his own little fictional world .
This report is quoting quite heavily from Rob the Delusional .
If he says Google is going , they 're probably staying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Rob Enderle, an analyst with the Enderle Group"

No, Rob Enderle is the Enderle Group.
Based on Rob's reporting history with companies like the SCO Group, Novell, IBM and Microsoft, I've long ago concluded he inhabits his own little fictional world.
This report is quoting quite heavily from Rob the Delusional.
If he says Google is going, they're probably staying.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498488</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>hyartep</author>
	<datestamp>1268764920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>very well said!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>very well said !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>very well said!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496716</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496722</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>Sagelinka</author>
	<datestamp>1268758380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In some ways I agree but the attacks non the less are ruining any peace between Google and China.

China could have went about it in a different manner.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In some ways I agree but the attacks non the less are ruining any peace between Google and China .
China could have went about it in a different manner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In some ways I agree but the attacks non the less are ruining any peace between Google and China.
China could have went about it in a different manner.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496396</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497330</id>
	<title>Re:Subsidiary</title>
	<author>RMS Eats Toejam</author>
	<datestamp>1268760420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google users the Internet to make money.  There are not 1 billion Internet users in China.  Population does not equal Internet users, not even in the US.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google users the Internet to make money .
There are not 1 billion Internet users in China .
Population does not equal Internet users , not even in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google users the Internet to make money.
There are not 1 billion Internet users in China.
Population does not equal Internet users, not even in the US.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496638</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496576</id>
	<title>Enderle</title>
	<author>thelexx</author>
	<datestamp>1268757960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; 'I think Google thought China would be flexible,' said Rob Enderle, an analyst with the Enderle Group.</p><p>And I think you're an idiot Robert.  If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese government, it is 'flexible'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; 'I think Google thought China would be flexible, ' said Rob Enderle , an analyst with the Enderle Group.And I think you 're an idiot Robert .
If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese government , it is 'flexible' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; 'I think Google thought China would be flexible,' said Rob Enderle, an analyst with the Enderle Group.And I think you're an idiot Robert.
If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese government, it is 'flexible'.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498732</id>
	<title>Meanwhile, I'm getting ready...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268765820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...to pull out of your mom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...to pull out of your mom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...to pull out of your mom.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496640</id>
	<title>Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1268758140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will Google stop buying stuff from China.<br>The Nexus 1 is made by HTC probably in China.<br>The iPhone and most of Apples products are made in China so no Google isn't alone.<br>We as a nation need to stop sending our money to China. How about it Google. Take that big monster pile of cash and build some factories in the US.<br>Start making phones and motherboards in the US again. Would you pay $10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality?<br>Think of it Google you could pay workers in the US that would then spend that money in the US and buy stuff made in the US "hopefully"<br>How about not just trying to not be evil but trying to be good?</p><p>On a more cynical note. Google isn't making a lot of money in China, odds are the Chinese search engine is benefiting from stolen Google tech will get government support, and they could leverage that tech to start going head to head with Google in world markets.<br>So they have nothing really to loose by bailing out of China.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will Google stop buying stuff from China.The Nexus 1 is made by HTC probably in China.The iPhone and most of Apples products are made in China so no Google is n't alone.We as a nation need to stop sending our money to China .
How about it Google .
Take that big monster pile of cash and build some factories in the US.Start making phones and motherboards in the US again .
Would you pay $ 10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality ? Think of it Google you could pay workers in the US that would then spend that money in the US and buy stuff made in the US " hopefully " How about not just trying to not be evil but trying to be good ? On a more cynical note .
Google is n't making a lot of money in China , odds are the Chinese search engine is benefiting from stolen Google tech will get government support , and they could leverage that tech to start going head to head with Google in world markets.So they have nothing really to loose by bailing out of China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will Google stop buying stuff from China.The Nexus 1 is made by HTC probably in China.The iPhone and most of Apples products are made in China so no Google isn't alone.We as a nation need to stop sending our money to China.
How about it Google.
Take that big monster pile of cash and build some factories in the US.Start making phones and motherboards in the US again.
Would you pay $10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality?Think of it Google you could pay workers in the US that would then spend that money in the US and buy stuff made in the US "hopefully"How about not just trying to not be evil but trying to be good?On a more cynical note.
Google isn't making a lot of money in China, odds are the Chinese search engine is benefiting from stolen Google tech will get government support, and they could leverage that tech to start going head to head with Google in world markets.So they have nothing really to loose by bailing out of China.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497172</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1268759880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They're walking away from too much money and market to pull out of China.</p></div><p>That's not given. In addition to the meager revenue that Google actual gets in China, you have to take into account government sponsored IP theft. Sounds to me that Google needs to worry about losing its IP to Chinese competitors.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're walking away from too much money and market to pull out of China.That 's not given .
In addition to the meager revenue that Google actual gets in China , you have to take into account government sponsored IP theft .
Sounds to me that Google needs to worry about losing its IP to Chinese competitors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're walking away from too much money and market to pull out of China.That's not given.
In addition to the meager revenue that Google actual gets in China, you have to take into account government sponsored IP theft.
Sounds to me that Google needs to worry about losing its IP to Chinese competitors.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498426</id>
	<title>Google doesn't hate China</title>
	<author>Lomegor</author>
	<datestamp>1268764680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What people don't seem to understand is that Google just doesn't want to censor. This doesn't mean that it doesn't want to sell cellphones in China or sell software if the government starts using Google Apps. It just means that Google doesn't want to censor. He can continue selling ads, He can continue selling phones, He can continue doing whatever it pleases, except censorship.

And search isn't Google primary income, it's ads.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What people do n't seem to understand is that Google just does n't want to censor .
This does n't mean that it does n't want to sell cellphones in China or sell software if the government starts using Google Apps .
It just means that Google does n't want to censor .
He can continue selling ads , He can continue selling phones , He can continue doing whatever it pleases , except censorship .
And search is n't Google primary income , it 's ads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What people don't seem to understand is that Google just doesn't want to censor.
This doesn't mean that it doesn't want to sell cellphones in China or sell software if the government starts using Google Apps.
It just means that Google doesn't want to censor.
He can continue selling ads, He can continue selling phones, He can continue doing whatever it pleases, except censorship.
And search isn't Google primary income, it's ads.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497594</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>mrdoogee</author>
	<datestamp>1268761380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your metaphor is actually quite apt here. In your scenario, the patient(China) is going to you, a board certified M.D.(Google). You'll provide the best service under your own code of ethics that you can. However, the patient wants to have a dangerous, or unethical treatment performed on him. You refuse and he responds by telling you he will go to the unlicensed mob doctor(Bauidu) who will perform the procedure. It is still unethical for you (Google) to do a "little harm" even to prevent the patient from disregarding your advice and being badly harmed by the other guy.</p><p>If you make your stand on being ethical, then bending your ethics even to do good is a slippery slope that leads to moral relativism and "ends justify the means" type thinking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your metaphor is actually quite apt here .
In your scenario , the patient ( China ) is going to you , a board certified M.D. ( Google ) .
You 'll provide the best service under your own code of ethics that you can .
However , the patient wants to have a dangerous , or unethical treatment performed on him .
You refuse and he responds by telling you he will go to the unlicensed mob doctor ( Bauidu ) who will perform the procedure .
It is still unethical for you ( Google ) to do a " little harm " even to prevent the patient from disregarding your advice and being badly harmed by the other guy.If you make your stand on being ethical , then bending your ethics even to do good is a slippery slope that leads to moral relativism and " ends justify the means " type thinking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your metaphor is actually quite apt here.
In your scenario, the patient(China) is going to you, a board certified M.D.(Google).
You'll provide the best service under your own code of ethics that you can.
However, the patient wants to have a dangerous, or unethical treatment performed on him.
You refuse and he responds by telling you he will go to the unlicensed mob doctor(Bauidu) who will perform the procedure.
It is still unethical for you (Google) to do a "little harm" even to prevent the patient from disregarding your advice and being badly harmed by the other guy.If you make your stand on being ethical, then bending your ethics even to do good is a slippery slope that leads to moral relativism and "ends justify the means" type thinking.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497842</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>King\_TJ</author>
	<datestamp>1268762280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's also this to consider:</p><p><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/061206seedmoney.htm" title="prisonplanet.com">http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/061206seedmoney.htm</a> [prisonplanet.com]</p><p>I'm not so sure Google, and for that matter, Facebook, aren't essentially bought and paid for by the CIA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's also this to consider : http : //www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/061206seedmoney.htm [ prisonplanet.com ] I 'm not so sure Google , and for that matter , Facebook , are n't essentially bought and paid for by the CIA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's also this to consider:http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/061206seedmoney.htm [prisonplanet.com]I'm not so sure Google, and for that matter, Facebook, aren't essentially bought and paid for by the CIA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497696</id>
	<title>Re:Enderle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268761740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese government, it is 'flexible'.</p></div><p>They don't even have a <i>word</i> for flexible.  To stretch open is about the closest you can come afaict.  A lot of cultural differences can be explained by language.  Darmok and Gillard at Tinagra.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese government , it is 'flexible'.They do n't even have a word for flexible .
To stretch open is about the closest you can come afaict .
A lot of cultural differences can be explained by language .
Darmok and Gillard at Tinagra .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese government, it is 'flexible'.They don't even have a word for flexible.
To stretch open is about the closest you can come afaict.
A lot of cultural differences can be explained by language.
Darmok and Gillard at Tinagra.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498516</id>
	<title>Re:China</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268764980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait for a few months. There will be reports of former Google employees committing "suicides" - makes a good plot - they violated laws, lost their jobs, and committed "suicides."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait for a few months .
There will be reports of former Google employees committing " suicides " - makes a good plot - they violated laws , lost their jobs , and committed " suicides .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait for a few months.
There will be reports of former Google employees committing "suicides" - makes a good plot - they violated laws, lost their jobs, and committed "suicides.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497182</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268759880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is one fine piece of rationalization.  "We may as well be evil, because otherwise the other guys will be *more* evil". Brilliant.  Satan would be proud.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is one fine piece of rationalization .
" We may as well be evil , because otherwise the other guys will be * more * evil " .
Brilliant. Satan would be proud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is one fine piece of rationalization.
"We may as well be evil, because otherwise the other guys will be *more* evil".
Brilliant.  Satan would be proud.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496872</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497524</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268761140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If nothing else, it would be a big FU to China to leave it as is but remove all censorship.</p></div><p>That would be grossly irresponsible.  Google's Chinese employees would be put in danger.  <br> <br>

China isn't like a western government.  It is NOT answerable to its people.  There is rule of man, not rule of law.  Pull a stunt like this and they may imprison you, torture you, or kill you.  They can do anything they want without consequence.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If nothing else , it would be a big FU to China to leave it as is but remove all censorship.That would be grossly irresponsible .
Google 's Chinese employees would be put in danger .
China is n't like a western government .
It is NOT answerable to its people .
There is rule of man , not rule of law .
Pull a stunt like this and they may imprison you , torture you , or kill you .
They can do anything they want without consequence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If nothing else, it would be a big FU to China to leave it as is but remove all censorship.That would be grossly irresponsible.
Google's Chinese employees would be put in danger.
China isn't like a western government.
It is NOT answerable to its people.
There is rule of man, not rule of law.
Pull a stunt like this and they may imprison you, torture you, or kill you.
They can do anything they want without consequence.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498842</id>
	<title>Re:Enderle</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1268766180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese government, it is 'flexible'.</p></div><p>Why not? I mean, they're a country that is still ostensibly run by a Communist party worshiping Mao - a guy who put Stalin to shame - and yet the country itself is unabashedly capitalist now, and doesn't even attempt to hide it, neither externally nor internally. Very flexible, if you ask me - almost on the level of "freedom is slavery".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese government , it is 'flexible'.Why not ?
I mean , they 're a country that is still ostensibly run by a Communist party worshiping Mao - a guy who put Stalin to shame - and yet the country itself is unabashedly capitalist now , and does n't even attempt to hide it , neither externally nor internally .
Very flexible , if you ask me - almost on the level of " freedom is slavery " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there is one word NO ONE in the West would use to describe the Chinese government, it is 'flexible'.Why not?
I mean, they're a country that is still ostensibly run by a Communist party worshiping Mao - a guy who put Stalin to shame - and yet the country itself is unabashedly capitalist now, and doesn't even attempt to hide it, neither externally nor internally.
Very flexible, if you ask me - almost on the level of "freedom is slavery".
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31500100</id>
	<title>Shit or get off the pot</title>
	<author>boundary</author>
	<datestamp>1268771100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wish they'd just get on with it. I'm sick of hearing about all this 'will they, won't they?' crap. It's like watching an episode of Moonlighting.

Still, I suppose we are living in the times of current affairs as 'entertainment'...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish they 'd just get on with it .
I 'm sick of hearing about all this 'will they , wo n't they ?
' crap .
It 's like watching an episode of Moonlighting .
Still , I suppose we are living in the times of current affairs as 'entertainment'.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish they'd just get on with it.
I'm sick of hearing about all this 'will they, won't they?
' crap.
It's like watching an episode of Moonlighting.
Still, I suppose we are living in the times of current affairs as 'entertainment'...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497488</id>
	<title>Do a Baidu?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268760960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect that the Chinese government would not be fooled, but it would be interesting to see how they justified shutting down Google if they did what Baidu does.</p><p>(That is, there exists a server farm that generates a huge and rapidly changing mass of URLs linking to illegal content, which Baidu knows how to index and thus serve up mp3s - they do respond to takedown requests, but there's always more randomly generated URLs for the same content.)</p><p>Replace mp3 with censored web content, and laugh.  Then get shut down even harder because no government enjoys being mocked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect that the Chinese government would not be fooled , but it would be interesting to see how they justified shutting down Google if they did what Baidu does .
( That is , there exists a server farm that generates a huge and rapidly changing mass of URLs linking to illegal content , which Baidu knows how to index and thus serve up mp3s - they do respond to takedown requests , but there 's always more randomly generated URLs for the same content .
) Replace mp3 with censored web content , and laugh .
Then get shut down even harder because no government enjoys being mocked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect that the Chinese government would not be fooled, but it would be interesting to see how they justified shutting down Google if they did what Baidu does.
(That is, there exists a server farm that generates a huge and rapidly changing mass of URLs linking to illegal content, which Baidu knows how to index and thus serve up mp3s - they do respond to takedown requests, but there's always more randomly generated URLs for the same content.
)Replace mp3 with censored web content, and laugh.
Then get shut down even harder because no government enjoys being mocked.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496402</id>
	<title>I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268757480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After all, Microsoft never signed a 'do no evil' clause.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After all , Microsoft never signed a 'do no evil ' clause .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all, Microsoft never signed a 'do no evil' clause.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497120</id>
	<title>Google is free for anyone with a browser</title>
	<author>Benjamin Shniper</author>
	<datestamp>1268759700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The lie underneath all of this is that China is claiming that Google will be denying website access to all Chinese in the People's Republic of China.</p><p>Last I checked, Google was available to anyone. If China doesn't let its people use Google, that's their decision.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The lie underneath all of this is that China is claiming that Google will be denying website access to all Chinese in the People 's Republic of China.Last I checked , Google was available to anyone .
If China does n't let its people use Google , that 's their decision .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The lie underneath all of this is that China is claiming that Google will be denying website access to all Chinese in the People's Republic of China.Last I checked, Google was available to anyone.
If China doesn't let its people use Google, that's their decision.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498092</id>
	<title>Re:Trade secrets</title>
	<author>StripedCow</author>
	<datestamp>1268763300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Warning! This datacenter will self-destruct in 60 seconds!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Warning !
This datacenter will self-destruct in 60 seconds !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Warning!
This datacenter will self-destruct in 60 seconds!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31500558</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1268773080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am not fan of Unions at all as they stand today.  Most of what they where needed for is now taken care of by government regulation. Also I feel the idea that I am REQUIRED to join a union and that I am REQUIRED to pay dues to the Union to work a certain job to be unconstitutional.<br>The fact that Unions want to remove the secret ballot when workplaces decided to unionize or not to me shows that they want to use intimidation to get into the workplace.<br>That is why Unions back when they served a purpose fought so hard for secret ballots.</p><p>Toyota, Honda, and several other companies manufacture in the US and are not unionized and their workers seem to be happy in those jobs.</p><p>Also I have had to deal with Unions in my job. Yea it will cost you $100 for the union electrician to stand their while you plug in that extension cord.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not fan of Unions at all as they stand today .
Most of what they where needed for is now taken care of by government regulation .
Also I feel the idea that I am REQUIRED to join a union and that I am REQUIRED to pay dues to the Union to work a certain job to be unconstitutional.The fact that Unions want to remove the secret ballot when workplaces decided to unionize or not to me shows that they want to use intimidation to get into the workplace.That is why Unions back when they served a purpose fought so hard for secret ballots.Toyota , Honda , and several other companies manufacture in the US and are not unionized and their workers seem to be happy in those jobs.Also I have had to deal with Unions in my job .
Yea it will cost you $ 100 for the union electrician to stand their while you plug in that extension cord .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not fan of Unions at all as they stand today.
Most of what they where needed for is now taken care of by government regulation.
Also I feel the idea that I am REQUIRED to join a union and that I am REQUIRED to pay dues to the Union to work a certain job to be unconstitutional.The fact that Unions want to remove the secret ballot when workplaces decided to unionize or not to me shows that they want to use intimidation to get into the workplace.That is why Unions back when they served a purpose fought so hard for secret ballots.Toyota, Honda, and several other companies manufacture in the US and are not unionized and their workers seem to be happy in those jobs.Also I have had to deal with Unions in my job.
Yea it will cost you $100 for the union electrician to stand their while you plug in that extension cord.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499008</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>blueskies</author>
	<datestamp>1268766780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How are they going to do that?  Maybe they'll start by melting all guns into plows and burning all of their books?   They can't really treat the rest of the world like they treat their own people.  It doesn't work that way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How are they going to do that ?
Maybe they 'll start by melting all guns into plows and burning all of their books ?
They ca n't really treat the rest of the world like they treat their own people .
It does n't work that way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How are they going to do that?
Maybe they'll start by melting all guns into plows and burning all of their books?
They can't really treat the rest of the world like they treat their own people.
It doesn't work that way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496730</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497336</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1268760480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thats stupid. Google would go bankrupt very quickly. Any large company would.<br> <br>This isn't about trying to hurt China, you've completely missed the point. It is to increase awareness of the censorship and to not actively assist in censorship and getting activists jailed.<br> <br>Btw, you can't do good as a company when you go bankrupt and no longer exist.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats stupid .
Google would go bankrupt very quickly .
Any large company would .
This is n't about trying to hurt China , you 've completely missed the point .
It is to increase awareness of the censorship and to not actively assist in censorship and getting activists jailed .
Btw , you ca n't do good as a company when you go bankrupt and no longer exist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats stupid.
Google would go bankrupt very quickly.
Any large company would.
This isn't about trying to hurt China, you've completely missed the point.
It is to increase awareness of the censorship and to not actively assist in censorship and getting activists jailed.
Btw, you can't do good as a company when you go bankrupt and no longer exist.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496640</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497508</id>
	<title>Wrong duality.</title>
	<author>g2devi</author>
	<datestamp>1268761080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where did the mean that idealism means poverty come from?</p><p>This isn't a conflict between profit and idealism. It's a conflict between near term and long term profits.</p><p>In the near term, if Google compromises it'll profit now. But if Google compromises, they'll ultimately lose profit.</p><p>If you have a reputation for not compromising, governments won't even try. Once you have one exception for one government, it's impossible to justify not having other exceptions for all governments. And if you're compromising all over the place, compromising to quasi-government bodies like the RIAA is inevitable.</p><p>Google holds *a lot* of personal data, so if that personal data is essentially public, people will not trust Google with their personal data. Google's loss of trust means loss of customers, and ultimately a loss of profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where did the mean that idealism means poverty come from ? This is n't a conflict between profit and idealism .
It 's a conflict between near term and long term profits.In the near term , if Google compromises it 'll profit now .
But if Google compromises , they 'll ultimately lose profit.If you have a reputation for not compromising , governments wo n't even try .
Once you have one exception for one government , it 's impossible to justify not having other exceptions for all governments .
And if you 're compromising all over the place , compromising to quasi-government bodies like the RIAA is inevitable.Google holds * a lot * of personal data , so if that personal data is essentially public , people will not trust Google with their personal data .
Google 's loss of trust means loss of customers , and ultimately a loss of profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where did the mean that idealism means poverty come from?This isn't a conflict between profit and idealism.
It's a conflict between near term and long term profits.In the near term, if Google compromises it'll profit now.
But if Google compromises, they'll ultimately lose profit.If you have a reputation for not compromising, governments won't even try.
Once you have one exception for one government, it's impossible to justify not having other exceptions for all governments.
And if you're compromising all over the place, compromising to quasi-government bodies like the RIAA is inevitable.Google holds *a lot* of personal data, so if that personal data is essentially public, people will not trust Google with their personal data.
Google's loss of trust means loss of customers, and ultimately a loss of profit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496456</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497928</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>rwa2</author>
	<datestamp>1268762640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, here are the Google blog posts mulling over China both then and now:<br><a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/01/google-in-china.html" title="blogspot.com">http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/01/google-in-china.html</a> [blogspot.com]<br><a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html" title="blogspot.com">http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html</a> [blogspot.com]</p><p>So essentially they'll be turning the clock back to 2006, where the Chinese had access to the unfiltered, international version of Google and were more painfully aware of its government's censorship effects.</p><p>I'm mostly interested in how much Google actually follows through on their threat.  It would still be an interesting PR move if they do (good or bad press is still press), but I'm sure they'll leave some tendrils there.  More interesting and depressing if historians come back to this point in time and say this was some major event that lead to a much bigger rift between the East and the West.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , here are the Google blog posts mulling over China both then and now : http : //googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/01/google-in-china.html [ blogspot.com ] http : //googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html [ blogspot.com ] So essentially they 'll be turning the clock back to 2006 , where the Chinese had access to the unfiltered , international version of Google and were more painfully aware of its government 's censorship effects.I 'm mostly interested in how much Google actually follows through on their threat .
It would still be an interesting PR move if they do ( good or bad press is still press ) , but I 'm sure they 'll leave some tendrils there .
More interesting and depressing if historians come back to this point in time and say this was some major event that lead to a much bigger rift between the East and the West .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, here are the Google blog posts mulling over China both then and now:http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/01/google-in-china.html [blogspot.com]http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html [blogspot.com]So essentially they'll be turning the clock back to 2006, where the Chinese had access to the unfiltered, international version of Google and were more painfully aware of its government's censorship effects.I'm mostly interested in how much Google actually follows through on their threat.
It would still be an interesting PR move if they do (good or bad press is still press), but I'm sure they'll leave some tendrils there.
More interesting and depressing if historians come back to this point in time and say this was some major event that lead to a much bigger rift between the East and the West.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497288</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496804</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>Sockatume</author>
	<datestamp>1268758680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Schmidt, however, owes his allegience to the shareholders. Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma.</i></p><p>His responsibility to his shareholders <i>is</i> an ethical issue. If he makes a decision that affects Google's share price, he's burning other people's money in a big fire, so the effect on the world at large has to be weighed against the effect on shareholders. Of course, if Google had stayed out of censorship in the first place, he wouldn't have to make that decision. I imagine that's why "don't be evil" was implimented. Staying out of a market on principle doesn't look as bad as having to abandon one on principle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Schmidt , however , owes his allegience to the shareholders .
Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma.His responsibility to his shareholders is an ethical issue .
If he makes a decision that affects Google 's share price , he 's burning other people 's money in a big fire , so the effect on the world at large has to be weighed against the effect on shareholders .
Of course , if Google had stayed out of censorship in the first place , he would n't have to make that decision .
I imagine that 's why " do n't be evil " was implimented .
Staying out of a market on principle does n't look as bad as having to abandon one on principle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Schmidt, however, owes his allegience to the shareholders.
Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma.His responsibility to his shareholders is an ethical issue.
If he makes a decision that affects Google's share price, he's burning other people's money in a big fire, so the effect on the world at large has to be weighed against the effect on shareholders.
Of course, if Google had stayed out of censorship in the first place, he wouldn't have to make that decision.
I imagine that's why "don't be evil" was implimented.
Staying out of a market on principle doesn't look as bad as having to abandon one on principle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497576</id>
	<title>Re:It should be interesting</title>
	<author>svtdragon</author>
	<datestamp>1268761320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35886780/ns/technology\_and\_science-security/" title="msn.com">another article</a> [msn.com] on this that says most of Google's $300m Chinese revenue comes from companies that by their AdWords in order to drive exports--that is, the ads are targeted at us and not at China.  They expect most of those customers to stick around, buying from google.com instead of google.cn.
<br> <br>
If Google pulls out, it's expected to be more problematic for Chinese businesses who depend on their services (gmail, google docs, maps, etc.) than it is for Google.  Plus there's the added effect of reducing Chinese internet competition as a driver for innovation/development, which will hinder businesses that ever hope to compete abroad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read another article [ msn.com ] on this that says most of Google 's $ 300m Chinese revenue comes from companies that by their AdWords in order to drive exports--that is , the ads are targeted at us and not at China .
They expect most of those customers to stick around , buying from google.com instead of google.cn .
If Google pulls out , it 's expected to be more problematic for Chinese businesses who depend on their services ( gmail , google docs , maps , etc .
) than it is for Google .
Plus there 's the added effect of reducing Chinese internet competition as a driver for innovation/development , which will hinder businesses that ever hope to compete abroad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read another article [msn.com] on this that says most of Google's $300m Chinese revenue comes from companies that by their AdWords in order to drive exports--that is, the ads are targeted at us and not at China.
They expect most of those customers to stick around, buying from google.com instead of google.cn.
If Google pulls out, it's expected to be more problematic for Chinese businesses who depend on their services (gmail, google docs, maps, etc.
) than it is for Google.
Plus there's the added effect of reducing Chinese internet competition as a driver for innovation/development, which will hinder businesses that ever hope to compete abroad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496700</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>Zocalo</author>
	<datestamp>1268758320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someone else is <em>already</em> a virtual monopoly in China.  Baidu is by far and away the most popular search engine in China and even Google is essentially an also ran, while Bing and Yahoo are barely above the level of being statistical noise.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone else is already a virtual monopoly in China .
Baidu is by far and away the most popular search engine in China and even Google is essentially an also ran , while Bing and Yahoo are barely above the level of being statistical noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone else is already a virtual monopoly in China.
Baidu is by far and away the most popular search engine in China and even Google is essentially an also ran, while Bing and Yahoo are barely above the level of being statistical noise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499350</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>Marxist Hacker 42</author>
	<datestamp>1268768100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Global variables usually screw up the code.  Guess the same goes for governments, economies, and business practices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Global variables usually screw up the code .
Guess the same goes for governments , economies , and business practices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Global variables usually screw up the code.
Guess the same goes for governments, economies, and business practices.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497436</id>
	<title>wow</title>
	<author>karlzt</author>
	<datestamp>1268760780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>there isn't a day without a yro story</htmltext>
<tokenext>there is n't a day without a yro story</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there isn't a day without a yro story</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497834</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>ObsessiveMathsFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1268762280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But how else is it supposed to get it hands on the devil's money? Selling out has a substantial dollar value!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But how else is it supposed to get it hands on the devil 's money ?
Selling out has a substantial dollar value !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But how else is it supposed to get it hands on the devil's money?
Selling out has a substantial dollar value!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496790</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>RMS Eats Toejam</author>
	<datestamp>1268758620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nor has any other company.   What exactly is your point?  Yahoo China is still up and running.  They are currently complying with Chinese law.  Are they evil too?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nor has any other company .
What exactly is your point ?
Yahoo China is still up and running .
They are currently complying with Chinese law .
Are they evil too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nor has any other company.
What exactly is your point?
Yahoo China is still up and running.
They are currently complying with Chinese law.
Are they evil too?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497188</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1268759940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although it no longer may be the case, China has historically been extremely insular toward the rest of the world.  It's only been during the past century that any sort of trade or interaction with the west has occurred at a significant level.</p><p>So, yes.  There was actually a time when that statement could have been true.  (I don't really have a point here -- just that your statement isn't quite as outlandish as you might think it is.  If trade with the west breaks down, proves unsustainable for China, or is effected by some major world event, we could very well see the country turn introverted again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although it no longer may be the case , China has historically been extremely insular toward the rest of the world .
It 's only been during the past century that any sort of trade or interaction with the west has occurred at a significant level.So , yes .
There was actually a time when that statement could have been true .
( I do n't really have a point here -- just that your statement is n't quite as outlandish as you might think it is .
If trade with the west breaks down , proves unsustainable for China , or is effected by some major world event , we could very well see the country turn introverted again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although it no longer may be the case, China has historically been extremely insular toward the rest of the world.
It's only been during the past century that any sort of trade or interaction with the west has occurred at a significant level.So, yes.
There was actually a time when that statement could have been true.
(I don't really have a point here -- just that your statement isn't quite as outlandish as you might think it is.
If trade with the west breaks down, proves unsustainable for China, or is effected by some major world event, we could very well see the country turn introverted again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496456</id>
	<title>Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1268757600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"I think Google thought China would be flexible," said Rob Enderle, an analyst with the Enderle Group.</p> </div><p>My opinion is that the CEO, <a href="http://www.google.com/corporate/execs.html#eric" title="google.com">Eric Schmidt</a> [google.com], differs from the young idealism of Larry Page and Sergey Brin.  I do not mean that either side of this leadership is right or wrong but instead simply that they have different motivations.  Brin's past <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/01/28/1316226/Behind-Googles-Recent-Decision-About-China" title="slashdot.org">has come up before</a> [slashdot.org] as a source for this (seemingly) new found anti-censorship campaign.  <br> <br>

Google's leadership is conflicted.  Brin &amp; Page see the ethics of the situation most important because their motivation seems to be less devoted to money.  It certainly seemed to be an exercise in indexing when they started "Google."  Schmidt, however, owes his allegience to the shareholders.  Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma.  And that's why he was put in that position: to keep investors investing.  And, honestly, this last point is why I think this 'removal' is nothing but a rumor or a bluff.  Because money is one of the most important things to Google.  I don't think the young idealism will stand up to stock prices<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and I think everyone involved knows it.  Until you tell me that Google.cn is dead and I go to the site and confirm it, I will not believe for a second this is possible.  <br> <br>

Brin and Page's <a href="http://slashdot.org/story/10/01/23/1756220/Larry-amp-Sergey-To-Cash-In-55B-of-Google-Chips" title="slashdot.org">cashing out</a> [slashdot.org] is really just symbolic of what's already happened at Google.  Their motivations are like any other company's.  Some of it is about the customer and some of it is about profit<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and that's it.  Pesky ideals and ethics have no place in corporate America.  Step aside.  It's the safest path to churn out tons of cash.  They're walking away from too much money and market to pull out of China.  It would be bad for stocks and any investors would flip out<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... probably even sue.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I think Google thought China would be flexible , " said Rob Enderle , an analyst with the Enderle Group .
My opinion is that the CEO , Eric Schmidt [ google.com ] , differs from the young idealism of Larry Page and Sergey Brin .
I do not mean that either side of this leadership is right or wrong but instead simply that they have different motivations .
Brin 's past has come up before [ slashdot.org ] as a source for this ( seemingly ) new found anti-censorship campaign .
Google 's leadership is conflicted .
Brin &amp; Page see the ethics of the situation most important because their motivation seems to be less devoted to money .
It certainly seemed to be an exercise in indexing when they started " Google .
" Schmidt , however , owes his allegience to the shareholders .
Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma .
And that 's why he was put in that position : to keep investors investing .
And , honestly , this last point is why I think this 'removal ' is nothing but a rumor or a bluff .
Because money is one of the most important things to Google .
I do n't think the young idealism will stand up to stock prices ... and I think everyone involved knows it .
Until you tell me that Google.cn is dead and I go to the site and confirm it , I will not believe for a second this is possible .
Brin and Page 's cashing out [ slashdot.org ] is really just symbolic of what 's already happened at Google .
Their motivations are like any other company 's .
Some of it is about the customer and some of it is about profit ... and that 's it .
Pesky ideals and ethics have no place in corporate America .
Step aside .
It 's the safest path to churn out tons of cash .
They 're walking away from too much money and market to pull out of China .
It would be bad for stocks and any investors would flip out ... probably even sue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I think Google thought China would be flexible," said Rob Enderle, an analyst with the Enderle Group.
My opinion is that the CEO, Eric Schmidt [google.com], differs from the young idealism of Larry Page and Sergey Brin.
I do not mean that either side of this leadership is right or wrong but instead simply that they have different motivations.
Brin's past has come up before [slashdot.org] as a source for this (seemingly) new found anti-censorship campaign.
Google's leadership is conflicted.
Brin &amp; Page see the ethics of the situation most important because their motivation seems to be less devoted to money.
It certainly seemed to be an exercise in indexing when they started "Google.
"  Schmidt, however, owes his allegience to the shareholders.
Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma.
And that's why he was put in that position: to keep investors investing.
And, honestly, this last point is why I think this 'removal' is nothing but a rumor or a bluff.
Because money is one of the most important things to Google.
I don't think the young idealism will stand up to stock prices ... and I think everyone involved knows it.
Until you tell me that Google.cn is dead and I go to the site and confirm it, I will not believe for a second this is possible.
Brin and Page's cashing out [slashdot.org] is really just symbolic of what's already happened at Google.
Their motivations are like any other company's.
Some of it is about the customer and some of it is about profit ... and that's it.
Pesky ideals and ethics have no place in corporate America.
Step aside.
It's the safest path to churn out tons of cash.
They're walking away from too much money and market to pull out of China.
It would be bad for stocks and any investors would flip out ... probably even sue.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498398</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1268764500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Start making phones and motherboards in the US again. Would you pay $10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality?</p></div></blockquote><p>In the unlikely instance the price difference was that small, sure.  But it won't be.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Start making phones and motherboards in the US again .
Would you pay $ 10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality ? In the unlikely instance the price difference was that small , sure .
But it wo n't be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Start making phones and motherboards in the US again.
Would you pay $10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality?In the unlikely instance the price difference was that small, sure.
But it won't be.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496928</id>
	<title>Re:It should be interesting</title>
	<author>Sagelinka</author>
	<datestamp>1268759040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would be impossible to abandon a country when the internet is as vast as the oceans.  Google will just have to try another approach.  Or build an army and take china by force.  They could use Androids.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be impossible to abandon a country when the internet is as vast as the oceans .
Google will just have to try another approach .
Or build an army and take china by force .
They could use Androids .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be impossible to abandon a country when the internet is as vast as the oceans.
Google will just have to try another approach.
Or build an army and take china by force.
They could use Androids.
:D</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496452</id>
	<title>It should be interesting</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1268757600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has a major player like Google ever completely abandoned a country before?</p><p>It should be interesting to see what kind of effect this has on Google, I doubt there will be a major change in China over this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has a major player like Google ever completely abandoned a country before ? It should be interesting to see what kind of effect this has on Google , I doubt there will be a major change in China over this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has a major player like Google ever completely abandoned a country before?It should be interesting to see what kind of effect this has on Google, I doubt there will be a major change in China over this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498574</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>hyartep</author>
	<datestamp>1268765220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>maybe they will create a spin-off - this way they will stay in china, but it will not be THE google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>maybe they will create a spin-off - this way they will stay in china , but it will not be THE google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>maybe they will create a spin-off - this way they will stay in china, but it will not be THE google.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497002</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>Seakip18</author>
	<datestamp>1268759280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FWIW, Google stock price was down 3\% since news of the pullout becoming more likely broke. It's recovered<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.5\% since.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FWIW , Google stock price was down 3 \ % since news of the pullout becoming more likely broke .
It 's recovered .5 \ % since .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FWIW, Google stock price was down 3\% since news of the pullout becoming more likely broke.
It's recovered .5\% since.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497288</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>Zarel</author>
	<datestamp>1268760240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Okay. I'll bite. Why? How does Google pulling out of China help anyone?</p><p>Sitting here, I can't help but notice that most of the people who are supporting Google pulling out of China are people who won't be affected by the move at all.</p><p>Tell me, what does depriving Chinese citizens of Google solve? Are you trying to hurt the Chinese government? Google's withdrawal just means more marketshare for Baidu, a domestic search engine that the Chinese government can more easily control - a net win for their government. And Chinese citizens will have less choice in their search engines - at least Google gives a "some search results were removed to comply with local law" message, so users know when their searches are censored. As far as I know, no other search engine does that.</p><p>So that's what ends up happening. Google's withdrawal is helping China's government and hurting China's citizens, but since Google's not the one doing it, there's no problem at all. It's flawed thinking like that, that's forcing Google to pull out of the PR disaster that is China. The Americans who support the decision - virtually all of whom are completely unaffected by the change - are patting their backs right now on this supposed triumph of free speech, despite the whole thing being a net <em>loss</em> for democracy and free speech.</p><p>What if the situation were reversed? What if Google decided to pull out of the USA unless <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship\_by\_Google#USA" title="wikipedia.org">they stopped censoring their search results</a> [wikipedia.org]? I'm sure if you were faced with a choice between "Google" and "No Google", most of you would choose Google.</p><p>Every time the "Google pulling out of China" story comes up, all I see are people who laud the move as a good thing (well, that, and a few sex jokes). Just once, I'd like to hear someone explain <em>why</em> you think it's a good thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay .
I 'll bite .
Why ? How does Google pulling out of China help anyone ? Sitting here , I ca n't help but notice that most of the people who are supporting Google pulling out of China are people who wo n't be affected by the move at all.Tell me , what does depriving Chinese citizens of Google solve ?
Are you trying to hurt the Chinese government ?
Google 's withdrawal just means more marketshare for Baidu , a domestic search engine that the Chinese government can more easily control - a net win for their government .
And Chinese citizens will have less choice in their search engines - at least Google gives a " some search results were removed to comply with local law " message , so users know when their searches are censored .
As far as I know , no other search engine does that.So that 's what ends up happening .
Google 's withdrawal is helping China 's government and hurting China 's citizens , but since Google 's not the one doing it , there 's no problem at all .
It 's flawed thinking like that , that 's forcing Google to pull out of the PR disaster that is China .
The Americans who support the decision - virtually all of whom are completely unaffected by the change - are patting their backs right now on this supposed triumph of free speech , despite the whole thing being a net loss for democracy and free speech.What if the situation were reversed ?
What if Google decided to pull out of the USA unless they stopped censoring their search results [ wikipedia.org ] ?
I 'm sure if you were faced with a choice between " Google " and " No Google " , most of you would choose Google.Every time the " Google pulling out of China " story comes up , all I see are people who laud the move as a good thing ( well , that , and a few sex jokes ) .
Just once , I 'd like to hear someone explain why you think it 's a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay.
I'll bite.
Why? How does Google pulling out of China help anyone?Sitting here, I can't help but notice that most of the people who are supporting Google pulling out of China are people who won't be affected by the move at all.Tell me, what does depriving Chinese citizens of Google solve?
Are you trying to hurt the Chinese government?
Google's withdrawal just means more marketshare for Baidu, a domestic search engine that the Chinese government can more easily control - a net win for their government.
And Chinese citizens will have less choice in their search engines - at least Google gives a "some search results were removed to comply with local law" message, so users know when their searches are censored.
As far as I know, no other search engine does that.So that's what ends up happening.
Google's withdrawal is helping China's government and hurting China's citizens, but since Google's not the one doing it, there's no problem at all.
It's flawed thinking like that, that's forcing Google to pull out of the PR disaster that is China.
The Americans who support the decision - virtually all of whom are completely unaffected by the change - are patting their backs right now on this supposed triumph of free speech, despite the whole thing being a net loss for democracy and free speech.What if the situation were reversed?
What if Google decided to pull out of the USA unless they stopped censoring their search results [wikipedia.org]?
I'm sure if you were faced with a choice between "Google" and "No Google", most of you would choose Google.Every time the "Google pulling out of China" story comes up, all I see are people who laud the move as a good thing (well, that, and a few sex jokes).
Just once, I'd like to hear someone explain why you think it's a good thing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497102</id>
	<title>Re:Subsidiary</title>
	<author>compro01</author>
	<datestamp>1268759640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I somewhat doubt it.  As big as it is over here, Google is merely an also-ran in the Chinese search engine market, which is dominated by local companies, largest being Baidu reportedly holding 60\%+ of the market by itself.</p><p>Figures I've see thrown around put the revenue for Google's Chinese operations at about $300 million/year, which is slightly more than 1\% of Google's total revenue.  Given the amount of hassle they've been having, I'm sure they've been strongly questioning whether that money is worth it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I somewhat doubt it .
As big as it is over here , Google is merely an also-ran in the Chinese search engine market , which is dominated by local companies , largest being Baidu reportedly holding 60 \ % + of the market by itself.Figures I 've see thrown around put the revenue for Google 's Chinese operations at about $ 300 million/year , which is slightly more than 1 \ % of Google 's total revenue .
Given the amount of hassle they 've been having , I 'm sure they 've been strongly questioning whether that money is worth it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I somewhat doubt it.
As big as it is over here, Google is merely an also-ran in the Chinese search engine market, which is dominated by local companies, largest being Baidu reportedly holding 60\%+ of the market by itself.Figures I've see thrown around put the revenue for Google's Chinese operations at about $300 million/year, which is slightly more than 1\% of Google's total revenue.
Given the amount of hassle they've been having, I'm sure they've been strongly questioning whether that money is worth it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498312</id>
	<title>The Dictator's Dilemma</title>
	<author>Hasai</author>
	<datestamp>1268764140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with being a totalitarian regime is that you can never, ever, let-up on that boot you have grinding-down upon the necks of the people, even if you want to.<br>Because the moment you <i>do </i>let-up, the people will <i> <b>stand </b> </i>up, and the next thing you know, you're hanging from a lamp post by a meat hook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with being a totalitarian regime is that you can never , ever , let-up on that boot you have grinding-down upon the necks of the people , even if you want to.Because the moment you do let-up , the people will stand up , and the next thing you know , you 're hanging from a lamp post by a meat hook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with being a totalitarian regime is that you can never, ever, let-up on that boot you have grinding-down upon the necks of the people, even if you want to.Because the moment you do let-up, the people will  stand  up, and the next thing you know, you're hanging from a lamp post by a meat hook.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31500074</id>
	<title>Google pulls out of China.</title>
	<author>malp</author>
	<datestamp>1268771040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1.3 billion brace for the money shot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1.3 billion brace for the money shot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.3 billion brace for the money shot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497012</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>algormortis</author>
	<datestamp>1268759340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How about not just trying to not be evil but trying to be good?</p></div><p>I like how you consider bringing business to China "evil." Many Chinese citizens are in need of work, and their laws allow foreign investors to take advantage of the cheap labor available. True, the U.S. isn't in the best economic situation, but it's still not "evil" to give work to people in another country who need it, even if you don't like their government.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about not just trying to not be evil but trying to be good ? I like how you consider bringing business to China " evil .
" Many Chinese citizens are in need of work , and their laws allow foreign investors to take advantage of the cheap labor available .
True , the U.S. is n't in the best economic situation , but it 's still not " evil " to give work to people in another country who need it , even if you do n't like their government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about not just trying to not be evil but trying to be good?I like how you consider bringing business to China "evil.
" Many Chinese citizens are in need of work, and their laws allow foreign investors to take advantage of the cheap labor available.
True, the U.S. isn't in the best economic situation, but it's still not "evil" to give work to people in another country who need it, even if you don't like their government.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497126</id>
	<title>Re:Enderle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268759700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The line <strong>"I think Google thought China would be flexible"</strong> is the kind of deep analysis everyone comes to expect from Enderle Group, consisting of Rob "PedoPundit" Enderle and his insane wife.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The line " I think Google thought China would be flexible " is the kind of deep analysis everyone comes to expect from Enderle Group , consisting of Rob " PedoPundit " Enderle and his insane wife .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The line "I think Google thought China would be flexible" is the kind of deep analysis everyone comes to expect from Enderle Group, consisting of Rob "PedoPundit" Enderle and his insane wife.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497298</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>VJ42</author>
	<datestamp>1268760240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Who cares about China. Seriously.</p><p>"We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.  Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.  If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."</p><p>Yeah.  Who cares about China?
Don't affect us at all!
(rolls eyes)</p></div><p>Dear China, how about you take France and Texas instead? That way we both win!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;p</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; Who cares about China .
Seriously. " We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money .
Furthermore we 've decided it 's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans .
If you do n't have the money , we 'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead. " Yeah .
Who cares about China ?
Do n't affect us at all !
( rolls eyes ) Dear China , how about you take France and Texas instead ?
That way we both win !
; p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;Who cares about China.
Seriously."We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.
Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.
If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."Yeah.
Who cares about China?
Don't affect us at all!
(rolls eyes)Dear China, how about you take France and Texas instead?
That way we both win!
;p
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31501586</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268734860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And also, by backing Taiwan's economy, Google is opposing Chinese expansionism directly already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And also , by backing Taiwan 's economy , Google is opposing Chinese expansionism directly already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And also, by backing Taiwan's economy, Google is opposing Chinese expansionism directly already.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499324</id>
	<title>Mod parent misinformed</title>
	<author>tknd</author>
	<datestamp>1268767980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sigh...if it has Chinese looking characters it must be from CHINA right!?

</p><p>Let me introduce you to a place called Taiwan:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>HTC Corporation, formerly High Tech Computer Corporation, is a <b>Taiwan-based</b> manufacturer of smartphones.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>Foxconn is the trade name of the <b>Taiwan based</b> firm Hon Hai Precision Industry Co. (Ltd.). Foxconn is the largest manufacturer of electronics and computer components worldwide, and mainly manufactures on contract to other companies. Among other things, Foxconn produces the Mac mini, the iPod and the <b>iPhone for Apple Inc.</b>; Intel-branded motherboards for Intel Corp.; various orders for American computer manufacturers Dell and Hewlett-Packard; motherboards for UK computer manufacturer Zoostorm; the PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 for Sony; the Wii for Nintendo; the Xbox 360 for Microsoft, cell phones for Motorola, the Amazon Kindle, and Cisco equipment.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>The company opened its <b>first manufacturing plant in China in 1988</b>, a factory in Shenzhen that is now the company's largest, with more than 270,000 employees.[3] Beginning in 1994, Foxconn purchased <b>development centres in the United States and Japan</b>. In 1997 and 1998, Foxconn established <b>additional manufacturing plants in the UK and the US</b>. As of 2007, the company and its <b>subsidiaries owned plants in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Mexico, Brazil, India and Vietnam</b>.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>ASUSTeK Computer Incorporated (ASUS), a multinational corporation <b>centered in Taiwan</b>, produces computer products: motherboards, laptops, servers, mobile phones and others.</p></div><p>Sources: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC\_Corporation" title="wikipedia.org">Wikipedia: HTC Corporation</a> [wikipedia.org], <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn" title="wikipedia.org">Wikipedia: Foxconn</a> [wikipedia.org], <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus" title="wikipedia.org">Wikipedia: Asus</a> [wikipedia.org].

</p><p>
The bigger questions are, is Taiwan really part of China, and what percentage of iphone or whatever really is from China. For the first question the answer is <i>maybe</i>.

</p><p>Ask a native Taiwanese and they will say Taiwan is definitely not China. Ask a native Chinese and they will say Taiwan is part of China. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political\_status\_of\_Taiwan" title="wikipedia.org">Here's why:</a> [wikipedia.org] "Upon losing the Chinese civil war in 1949, the ROC government retreated to Taipei, and kept control over a few islands along the coast of mainland China and in the South China Sea. The People's Republic of China (PRC) was established in mainland China on October 1, 1949, claiming to be the successor to the ROC."

</p><p>For the second question, Foxconn does have plants in China. But it also owns plants in other parts of the world like Mexico. But even then you would have to go down to each component and trace it's place of manufacture because suppliers have their own manufacturing plants. But then again, Foxconn doesn't make HTC phones so I don't know how you get to blame Google for something Apple is contracting out.

</p><p>I hope it is now all cloudy for you but I at least hope you won't say things are "probably" made in China.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Sigh...if it has Chinese looking characters it must be from CHINA right ! ?
Let me introduce you to a place called Taiwan : HTC Corporation , formerly High Tech Computer Corporation , is a Taiwan-based manufacturer of smartphones.Foxconn is the trade name of the Taiwan based firm Hon Hai Precision Industry Co. ( Ltd. ) . Foxconn is the largest manufacturer of electronics and computer components worldwide , and mainly manufactures on contract to other companies .
Among other things , Foxconn produces the Mac mini , the iPod and the iPhone for Apple Inc. ; Intel-branded motherboards for Intel Corp. ; various orders for American computer manufacturers Dell and Hewlett-Packard ; motherboards for UK computer manufacturer Zoostorm ; the PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 for Sony ; the Wii for Nintendo ; the Xbox 360 for Microsoft , cell phones for Motorola , the Amazon Kindle , and Cisco equipment.The company opened its first manufacturing plant in China in 1988 , a factory in Shenzhen that is now the company 's largest , with more than 270,000 employees .
[ 3 ] Beginning in 1994 , Foxconn purchased development centres in the United States and Japan .
In 1997 and 1998 , Foxconn established additional manufacturing plants in the UK and the US .
As of 2007 , the company and its subsidiaries owned plants in the Czech Republic , Hungary , Mexico , Brazil , India and Vietnam.ASUSTeK Computer Incorporated ( ASUS ) , a multinational corporation centered in Taiwan , produces computer products : motherboards , laptops , servers , mobile phones and others.Sources : Wikipedia : HTC Corporation [ wikipedia.org ] , Wikipedia : Foxconn [ wikipedia.org ] , Wikipedia : Asus [ wikipedia.org ] .
The bigger questions are , is Taiwan really part of China , and what percentage of iphone or whatever really is from China .
For the first question the answer is maybe .
Ask a native Taiwanese and they will say Taiwan is definitely not China .
Ask a native Chinese and they will say Taiwan is part of China .
Here 's why : [ wikipedia.org ] " Upon losing the Chinese civil war in 1949 , the ROC government retreated to Taipei , and kept control over a few islands along the coast of mainland China and in the South China Sea .
The People 's Republic of China ( PRC ) was established in mainland China on October 1 , 1949 , claiming to be the successor to the ROC .
" For the second question , Foxconn does have plants in China .
But it also owns plants in other parts of the world like Mexico .
But even then you would have to go down to each component and trace it 's place of manufacture because suppliers have their own manufacturing plants .
But then again , Foxconn does n't make HTC phones so I do n't know how you get to blame Google for something Apple is contracting out .
I hope it is now all cloudy for you but I at least hope you wo n't say things are " probably " made in China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sigh...if it has Chinese looking characters it must be from CHINA right!?
Let me introduce you to a place called Taiwan:HTC Corporation, formerly High Tech Computer Corporation, is a Taiwan-based manufacturer of smartphones.Foxconn is the trade name of the Taiwan based firm Hon Hai Precision Industry Co. (Ltd.). Foxconn is the largest manufacturer of electronics and computer components worldwide, and mainly manufactures on contract to other companies.
Among other things, Foxconn produces the Mac mini, the iPod and the iPhone for Apple Inc.; Intel-branded motherboards for Intel Corp.; various orders for American computer manufacturers Dell and Hewlett-Packard; motherboards for UK computer manufacturer Zoostorm; the PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 for Sony; the Wii for Nintendo; the Xbox 360 for Microsoft, cell phones for Motorola, the Amazon Kindle, and Cisco equipment.The company opened its first manufacturing plant in China in 1988, a factory in Shenzhen that is now the company's largest, with more than 270,000 employees.
[3] Beginning in 1994, Foxconn purchased development centres in the United States and Japan.
In 1997 and 1998, Foxconn established additional manufacturing plants in the UK and the US.
As of 2007, the company and its subsidiaries owned plants in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Mexico, Brazil, India and Vietnam.ASUSTeK Computer Incorporated (ASUS), a multinational corporation centered in Taiwan, produces computer products: motherboards, laptops, servers, mobile phones and others.Sources: Wikipedia: HTC Corporation [wikipedia.org], Wikipedia: Foxconn [wikipedia.org], Wikipedia: Asus [wikipedia.org].
The bigger questions are, is Taiwan really part of China, and what percentage of iphone or whatever really is from China.
For the first question the answer is maybe.
Ask a native Taiwanese and they will say Taiwan is definitely not China.
Ask a native Chinese and they will say Taiwan is part of China.
Here's why: [wikipedia.org] "Upon losing the Chinese civil war in 1949, the ROC government retreated to Taipei, and kept control over a few islands along the coast of mainland China and in the South China Sea.
The People's Republic of China (PRC) was established in mainland China on October 1, 1949, claiming to be the successor to the ROC.
"

For the second question, Foxconn does have plants in China.
But it also owns plants in other parts of the world like Mexico.
But even then you would have to go down to each component and trace it's place of manufacture because suppliers have their own manufacturing plants.
But then again, Foxconn doesn't make HTC phones so I don't know how you get to blame Google for something Apple is contracting out.
I hope it is now all cloudy for you but I at least hope you won't say things are "probably" made in China.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497788</id>
	<title>Yep!  Time to pack it up and go home!</title>
	<author>King\_TJ</author>
	<datestamp>1268762100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anything short of Google exiting China completely would just emphasize China's stance that they can censor anyone, any time -- and even the USA will bow to their demands, when push comes to shove.</p><p>It's irrelevant if "Bing takes their place", really.  This isn't about Bing or Microsoft right now.  It's about Google and how THEY will react to being told by a nation how to run a search engine.</p><p>If and when Microsoft opportunistically steps in and offers to do what Google refused to do, THEN it will be about Microsoft.  We can cross that bridge when we come to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anything short of Google exiting China completely would just emphasize China 's stance that they can censor anyone , any time -- and even the USA will bow to their demands , when push comes to shove.It 's irrelevant if " Bing takes their place " , really .
This is n't about Bing or Microsoft right now .
It 's about Google and how THEY will react to being told by a nation how to run a search engine.If and when Microsoft opportunistically steps in and offers to do what Google refused to do , THEN it will be about Microsoft .
We can cross that bridge when we come to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anything short of Google exiting China completely would just emphasize China's stance that they can censor anyone, any time -- and even the USA will bow to their demands, when push comes to shove.It's irrelevant if "Bing takes their place", really.
This isn't about Bing or Microsoft right now.
It's about Google and how THEY will react to being told by a nation how to run a search engine.If and when Microsoft opportunistically steps in and offers to do what Google refused to do, THEN it will be about Microsoft.
We can cross that bridge when we come to it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496708</id>
	<title>Good news for Baidu!</title>
	<author>i\_want\_you\_to\_throw\_</author>
	<datestamp>1268758380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's also good news for Microhoo. Google, as a publicly traded company, only has the obligation to make a profit for shareholders regardless of their "Do no evil" hooey which, let's face it, once you're publicly traded becomes more of a guideline than a rule. Really, Google wants to increase their market share just like anyone else.<br> <br>
I seriously doubt that they will pull out of China and are just sabre rattling although sabre rattling with the Chinese government is a losing proposition. Microhoo and Baidu should be thanking Google if they indeed pull out but I highly doubt they will. They could always change their motto to "we do less evil than everyone else", then they could stay. It's a more realistic motto anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's also good news for Microhoo .
Google , as a publicly traded company , only has the obligation to make a profit for shareholders regardless of their " Do no evil " hooey which , let 's face it , once you 're publicly traded becomes more of a guideline than a rule .
Really , Google wants to increase their market share just like anyone else .
I seriously doubt that they will pull out of China and are just sabre rattling although sabre rattling with the Chinese government is a losing proposition .
Microhoo and Baidu should be thanking Google if they indeed pull out but I highly doubt they will .
They could always change their motto to " we do less evil than everyone else " , then they could stay .
It 's a more realistic motto anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's also good news for Microhoo.
Google, as a publicly traded company, only has the obligation to make a profit for shareholders regardless of their "Do no evil" hooey which, let's face it, once you're publicly traded becomes more of a guideline than a rule.
Really, Google wants to increase their market share just like anyone else.
I seriously doubt that they will pull out of China and are just sabre rattling although sabre rattling with the Chinese government is a losing proposition.
Microhoo and Baidu should be thanking Google if they indeed pull out but I highly doubt they will.
They could always change their motto to "we do less evil than everyone else", then they could stay.
It's a more realistic motto anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497510</id>
	<title>Re:It should be interesting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268761080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It will have an interesting effect, but on the chinese. I live in Romania, and for a good time under communism. We usually heard from outside various things, and always associated those with freedom, free to speak without the threat of life imprisonment, so after the Revolution all those brands became very popular, and the old ones died in a few short years. I don't see a Revolution in their near future, but I can guess what they think about Google now. Someone said, you only appreciate freedom only after you lose it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It will have an interesting effect , but on the chinese .
I live in Romania , and for a good time under communism .
We usually heard from outside various things , and always associated those with freedom , free to speak without the threat of life imprisonment , so after the Revolution all those brands became very popular , and the old ones died in a few short years .
I do n't see a Revolution in their near future , but I can guess what they think about Google now .
Someone said , you only appreciate freedom only after you lose it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will have an interesting effect, but on the chinese.
I live in Romania, and for a good time under communism.
We usually heard from outside various things, and always associated those with freedom, free to speak without the threat of life imprisonment, so after the Revolution all those brands became very popular, and the old ones died in a few short years.
I don't see a Revolution in their near future, but I can guess what they think about Google now.
Someone said, you only appreciate freedom only after you lose it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31502382</id>
	<title>Re:What money?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268739000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the most insightful and poignant comments I have EVER seen on SD. China, China, China, I'm sick of it, and my ancestors are Chinese! Take trade as another example. Western businesses are falling over themselves trying to court China, but guess what -- they don't buy! They'll gladly sell you sweatshop made Nikes, ipods and other trinkets to fill the shelves at Home Depot and Walmart, but a real trading partner like Canada, with a population of around 30M, imports from the US 4X more goods than a country of over a BILLION.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the most insightful and poignant comments I have EVER seen on SD .
China , China , China , I 'm sick of it , and my ancestors are Chinese !
Take trade as another example .
Western businesses are falling over themselves trying to court China , but guess what -- they do n't buy !
They 'll gladly sell you sweatshop made Nikes , ipods and other trinkets to fill the shelves at Home Depot and Walmart , but a real trading partner like Canada , with a population of around 30M , imports from the US 4X more goods than a country of over a BILLION .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the most insightful and poignant comments I have EVER seen on SD.
China, China, China, I'm sick of it, and my ancestors are Chinese!
Take trade as another example.
Western businesses are falling over themselves trying to court China, but guess what -- they don't buy!
They'll gladly sell you sweatshop made Nikes, ipods and other trinkets to fill the shelves at Home Depot and Walmart, but a real trading partner like Canada, with a population of around 30M, imports from the US 4X more goods than a country of over a BILLION.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496506</id>
	<title>Not bad</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1268757780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Google Readying To Pull Out of China</p> </div><p> - hopefully it will work out and China will not get pregnant.  Imagine the litter?  Little Choogle or maybe little Gooina.</p><p>They should have really used better contraception though, you never know what kind of a virus one may get going barebone like that!</p></div>
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<tokenext>Google Readying To Pull Out of China - hopefully it will work out and China will not get pregnant .
Imagine the litter ?
Little Choogle or maybe little Gooina.They should have really used better contraception though , you never know what kind of a virus one may get going barebone like that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google Readying To Pull Out of China  - hopefully it will work out and China will not get pregnant.
Imagine the litter?
Little Choogle or maybe little Gooina.They should have really used better contraception though, you never know what kind of a virus one may get going barebone like that!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497534</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268761200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bad analogy.</p><p>A doctor would elect to "do the harm" only to <i>minimize</i> the harm.</p><p>But why exactly is it better for Google to be the one to expose human rights activists?  Those folks can get imprisoned without Google's help, thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bad analogy.A doctor would elect to " do the harm " only to minimize the harm.But why exactly is it better for Google to be the one to expose human rights activists ?
Those folks can get imprisoned without Google 's help , thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bad analogy.A doctor would elect to "do the harm" only to minimize the harm.But why exactly is it better for Google to be the one to expose human rights activists?
Those folks can get imprisoned without Google's help, thank you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498278</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268764020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"Good. Google should never have made that devil's bargain in the first place."</i></p><p>One down, 999 corporations to go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Good .
Google should never have made that devil 's bargain in the first place .
" One down , 999 corporations to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Good.
Google should never have made that devil's bargain in the first place.
"One down, 999 corporations to go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499448</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>RogerWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1268768520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What will be interesting, is if Google follows though, what the response from Microsoft will be.</p><p>We might find out how much spin you can put on: "We have no problem with censorship and accessing people's private mail"</p><p>It would be even better if Google had some dirt on for example Hotmail or MSN, showing that there are backdoors for the US government in them.</p><p>Not that I trust Google, I'm just saying that I think Google will try to spin this in a way that will make it hard for competitors to be in China without getting a lot of flak.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What will be interesting , is if Google follows though , what the response from Microsoft will be.We might find out how much spin you can put on : " We have no problem with censorship and accessing people 's private mail " It would be even better if Google had some dirt on for example Hotmail or MSN , showing that there are backdoors for the US government in them.Not that I trust Google , I 'm just saying that I think Google will try to spin this in a way that will make it hard for competitors to be in China without getting a lot of flak .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What will be interesting, is if Google follows though, what the response from Microsoft will be.We might find out how much spin you can put on: "We have no problem with censorship and accessing people's private mail"It would be even better if Google had some dirt on for example Hotmail or MSN, showing that there are backdoors for the US government in them.Not that I trust Google, I'm just saying that I think Google will try to spin this in a way that will make it hard for competitors to be in China without getting a lot of flak.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496616</id>
	<title>The Pull out technique doesn't work</title>
	<author>masmullin</author>
	<datestamp>1268758020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Abstinence is the only 100\% method to prevent pregnancy.  The pull out technique doesn't work.  I hope China was on the Pill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Abstinence is the only 100 \ % method to prevent pregnancy .
The pull out technique does n't work .
I hope China was on the Pill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Abstinence is the only 100\% method to prevent pregnancy.
The pull out technique doesn't work.
I hope China was on the Pill.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496414</id>
	<title>China</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268757480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Frankly, I'm suprised Chinese officials didn't have any Google employees executed over this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Frankly , I 'm suprised Chinese officials did n't have any Google employees executed over this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Frankly, I'm suprised Chinese officials didn't have any Google employees executed over this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497384</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268760540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's "don't be evil."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's " do n't be evil .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's "don't be evil.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496852</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>N1AK</author>
	<datestamp>1268758800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Who cares about China. Seriously. What happens there with Google affects most of us absolutely not at all....
<br> <br>
What direction is the censorship, privacy, and IP situation in the UK going?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>

Firstly, how hard would it have been to not click the title that clearly shows this is about Google in China if you don't care?

<br>
Secondly, many people feel developments like this are important. It's incredibly hard to predict with any accuracy what will be important geopolitically any distance into the future, but the belief that China will play an increasingly prominant role is pretty well founded.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares about China .
Seriously. What happens there with Google affects most of us absolutely not at all... . What direction is the censorship , privacy , and IP situation in the UK going ?
Firstly , how hard would it have been to not click the title that clearly shows this is about Google in China if you do n't care ?
Secondly , many people feel developments like this are important .
It 's incredibly hard to predict with any accuracy what will be important geopolitically any distance into the future , but the belief that China will play an increasingly prominant role is pretty well founded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares about China.
Seriously. What happens there with Google affects most of us absolutely not at all....
 
What direction is the censorship, privacy, and IP situation in the UK going?
Firstly, how hard would it have been to not click the title that clearly shows this is about Google in China if you don't care?
Secondly, many people feel developments like this are important.
It's incredibly hard to predict with any accuracy what will be important geopolitically any distance into the future, but the belief that China will play an increasingly prominant role is pretty well founded.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31501764</id>
	<title>I'm 100\% behind Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268735820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm 100\% behind Google on this. Google doesn't need China-s business to survive<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and I feel much better knowing that Google is not just like every other multinational on the planet. Google stands for some values and that's refreshing. I feel more inclined to think that they will do no evil if they do not compromise their values because the Communist Party wants it. Go Google Go!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm 100 \ % behind Google on this .
Google does n't need China-s business to survive ... and I feel much better knowing that Google is not just like every other multinational on the planet .
Google stands for some values and that 's refreshing .
I feel more inclined to think that they will do no evil if they do not compromise their values because the Communist Party wants it .
Go Google Go !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm 100\% behind Google on this.
Google doesn't need China-s business to survive ... and I feel much better knowing that Google is not just like every other multinational on the planet.
Google stands for some values and that's refreshing.
I feel more inclined to think that they will do no evil if they do not compromise their values because the Communist Party wants it.
Go Google Go!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497428</id>
	<title>Schmidt's responsibilities are clear</title>
	<author>Infonaut</author>
	<datestamp>1268760720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Schmidt, however, owes his allegience to the shareholders. Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma.</i> </p><p>It's not about whether he understands the ethical dilemma or not. As the CEO of a public company, he is obliged, not just out of a sense of responsibility, but he is <i>legally</i> obliged to go after profits. There are plenty of historic court cases that make it quite clear to CEOs that if shareholders bring a lawsuit for failure to act first and foremost to generate profits, the CEO is the one who will lose. There are ways Schmidt can justify exiting China to shareholders, but if some activist shareholder gets in a lather and goes after Schmidt for putting ideals above profits, he'll have to defend himself.</p><p>This is part of the reason why "do no evil" is such an absurd claim for a public company to make. It's a great idea, but when push comes to shove, "do no evil" loses to "make money".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Schmidt , however , owes his allegience to the shareholders .
Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma .
It 's not about whether he understands the ethical dilemma or not .
As the CEO of a public company , he is obliged , not just out of a sense of responsibility , but he is legally obliged to go after profits .
There are plenty of historic court cases that make it quite clear to CEOs that if shareholders bring a lawsuit for failure to act first and foremost to generate profits , the CEO is the one who will lose .
There are ways Schmidt can justify exiting China to shareholders , but if some activist shareholder gets in a lather and goes after Schmidt for putting ideals above profits , he 'll have to defend himself.This is part of the reason why " do no evil " is such an absurd claim for a public company to make .
It 's a great idea , but when push comes to shove , " do no evil " loses to " make money " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Schmidt, however, owes his allegience to the shareholders.
Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma.
It's not about whether he understands the ethical dilemma or not.
As the CEO of a public company, he is obliged, not just out of a sense of responsibility, but he is legally obliged to go after profits.
There are plenty of historic court cases that make it quite clear to CEOs that if shareholders bring a lawsuit for failure to act first and foremost to generate profits, the CEO is the one who will lose.
There are ways Schmidt can justify exiting China to shareholders, but if some activist shareholder gets in a lather and goes after Schmidt for putting ideals above profits, he'll have to defend himself.This is part of the reason why "do no evil" is such an absurd claim for a public company to make.
It's a great idea, but when push comes to shove, "do no evil" loses to "make money".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496490</id>
	<title>Ewww nasty!</title>
	<author>orsty3001</author>
	<datestamp>1268757720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Less regretful than pulling out of Chyna.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Less regretful than pulling out of Chyna .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Less regretful than pulling out of Chyna.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498056</id>
	<title>Except they aren't "cashing out"</title>
	<author>melted</author>
	<datestamp>1268763180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're diversifying their portfolio, which is a normal part of being billionaires. Look up Bill Gates for instance - the guy has been selling shares of Microsoft for decades now, on a schedule.</p><p>And yes, they do care about profit, but I challenge you to find a single other company who would have the balls to leave $500M on the table and walk away with ethics being the sole major driving force behind the decision. For that, Google has my deep respect, and I hope others would appreciate this move too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're diversifying their portfolio , which is a normal part of being billionaires .
Look up Bill Gates for instance - the guy has been selling shares of Microsoft for decades now , on a schedule.And yes , they do care about profit , but I challenge you to find a single other company who would have the balls to leave $ 500M on the table and walk away with ethics being the sole major driving force behind the decision .
For that , Google has my deep respect , and I hope others would appreciate this move too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're diversifying their portfolio, which is a normal part of being billionaires.
Look up Bill Gates for instance - the guy has been selling shares of Microsoft for decades now, on a schedule.And yes, they do care about profit, but I challenge you to find a single other company who would have the balls to leave $500M on the table and walk away with ethics being the sole major driving force behind the decision.
For that, Google has my deep respect, and I hope others would appreciate this move too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496886</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1268758920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So Google should be more careful, China could still get pregnant?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Google should be more careful , China could still get pregnant ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Google should be more careful, China could still get pregnant?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497640</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>mdda</author>
	<datestamp>1268761500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... that giant trump card of calling said government's policies socialist<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... (For the record, that's legitimately socialist, not the "Obamacare == teh socialists!!!111eleventyone!")<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>FWIW, in most of the world Socialist is not such an synonym for Evil that it is in the US : it's much more understandable to everyone to pull out the giant trump card of calling said government's policies totalitarian, or a police state.  After all that's the root of the problem.</p><p>Apart from that, I'm in total agreement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... that giant trump card of calling said government 's policies socialist ... ... ( For the record , that 's legitimately socialist , not the " Obamacare = = teh socialists ! ! ! 111eleventyone !
" ) ...FWIW , in most of the world Socialist is not such an synonym for Evil that it is in the US : it 's much more understandable to everyone to pull out the giant trump card of calling said government 's policies totalitarian , or a police state .
After all that 's the root of the problem.Apart from that , I 'm in total agreement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... that giant trump card of calling said government's policies socialist ... ... (For the record, that's legitimately socialist, not the "Obamacare == teh socialists!!!111eleventyone!
") ...FWIW, in most of the world Socialist is not such an synonym for Evil that it is in the US : it's much more understandable to everyone to pull out the giant trump card of calling said government's policies totalitarian, or a police state.
After all that's the root of the problem.Apart from that, I'm in total agreement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499170</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>Dahamma</author>
	<datestamp>1268767380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>You're right that other places have a tighter cultural connection, but you can only ignore an elephant in the room for so long. Google may only be a mouse, but that's enough to make the elephant pretty mad.</i></p><p>Nice, you made Bad Analogy Guy's post look stupid AND in a form he can actually understand!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right that other places have a tighter cultural connection , but you can only ignore an elephant in the room for so long .
Google may only be a mouse , but that 's enough to make the elephant pretty mad.Nice , you made Bad Analogy Guy 's post look stupid AND in a form he can actually understand !
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right that other places have a tighter cultural connection, but you can only ignore an elephant in the room for so long.
Google may only be a mouse, but that's enough to make the elephant pretty mad.Nice, you made Bad Analogy Guy's post look stupid AND in a form he can actually understand!
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497064</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>purpledinoz</author>
	<datestamp>1268759520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it's a good move for Google. China seems like it's a pain in the ass for them. They might as well sit it out for now, and if things change in China, they can always jump back in.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's a good move for Google .
China seems like it 's a pain in the ass for them .
They might as well sit it out for now , and if things change in China , they can always jump back in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's a good move for Google.
China seems like it's a pain in the ass for them.
They might as well sit it out for now, and if things change in China, they can always jump back in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496396</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497240</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1268760120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Clear?<br> <br>Interaction is a good thing. Google opens the world up to China much better than China based Baidu. From there Chinese people get access to a wider range of views and opinions. They have greater contact with europeans and americans so they can see more opinions. They can realize more effectively that people aren't out to get them. Even though censorship is bad nothing is clearly more censorship.<br> <br>The best solution would be for Google to poke holes in China's wall... repeatedly. Automated English -&gt; Chinese translations brought to the forefront. That would increase the list of things China's firewall would have to blacklist by a fuck of a lot. How about having the Google logo say something 'interesting' about Chinese government each day? Or provide high-quality networking tools and remote networking tools that can act as a proxy. Just push the envelope repeatedly until either China cools down or they get thrown out.<br> <br>"it would be a big FU to China to leave it as is but remove all censorship."<br>While that'd be fun... it'd put google at pretty big legal risk. And more importantly the CEO has a duty to not have all his chinese employees taken to a chinese prison and not heard from again for 20 years...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Clear ?
Interaction is a good thing .
Google opens the world up to China much better than China based Baidu .
From there Chinese people get access to a wider range of views and opinions .
They have greater contact with europeans and americans so they can see more opinions .
They can realize more effectively that people are n't out to get them .
Even though censorship is bad nothing is clearly more censorship .
The best solution would be for Google to poke holes in China 's wall... repeatedly. Automated English - &gt; Chinese translations brought to the forefront .
That would increase the list of things China 's firewall would have to blacklist by a fuck of a lot .
How about having the Google logo say something 'interesting ' about Chinese government each day ?
Or provide high-quality networking tools and remote networking tools that can act as a proxy .
Just push the envelope repeatedly until either China cools down or they get thrown out .
" it would be a big FU to China to leave it as is but remove all censorship .
" While that 'd be fun... it 'd put google at pretty big legal risk .
And more importantly the CEO has a duty to not have all his chinese employees taken to a chinese prison and not heard from again for 20 years.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clear?
Interaction is a good thing.
Google opens the world up to China much better than China based Baidu.
From there Chinese people get access to a wider range of views and opinions.
They have greater contact with europeans and americans so they can see more opinions.
They can realize more effectively that people aren't out to get them.
Even though censorship is bad nothing is clearly more censorship.
The best solution would be for Google to poke holes in China's wall... repeatedly. Automated English -&gt; Chinese translations brought to the forefront.
That would increase the list of things China's firewall would have to blacklist by a fuck of a lot.
How about having the Google logo say something 'interesting' about Chinese government each day?
Or provide high-quality networking tools and remote networking tools that can act as a proxy.
Just push the envelope repeatedly until either China cools down or they get thrown out.
"it would be a big FU to China to leave it as is but remove all censorship.
"While that'd be fun... it'd put google at pretty big legal risk.
And more importantly the CEO has a duty to not have all his chinese employees taken to a chinese prison and not heard from again for 20 years...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498450</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>Jeppe Salvesen</author>
	<datestamp>1268764740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm all for making a time-limited attempt at working with the devil. That way, you give the devil a chance to mend his ways. And if that fails, you get to publicly snub the devil.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm all for making a time-limited attempt at working with the devil .
That way , you give the devil a chance to mend his ways .
And if that fails , you get to publicly snub the devil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm all for making a time-limited attempt at working with the devil.
That way, you give the devil a chance to mend his ways.
And if that fails, you get to publicly snub the devil.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496396</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497150</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>Jeff DeMaagd</author>
	<datestamp>1268759760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How much of this are you being serious about?  It sounds like you could be serious, or not, it's hard to tell sometimes.</p><p>People saying that it's OK to do anything in the name of money eventually end up being on the side of Enron and AIG before they realize it.  Or WWII IBM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How much of this are you being serious about ?
It sounds like you could be serious , or not , it 's hard to tell sometimes.People saying that it 's OK to do anything in the name of money eventually end up being on the side of Enron and AIG before they realize it .
Or WWII IBM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much of this are you being serious about?
It sounds like you could be serious, or not, it's hard to tell sometimes.People saying that it's OK to do anything in the name of money eventually end up being on the side of Enron and AIG before they realize it.
Or WWII IBM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499962</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>fritsd</author>
	<datestamp>1268770500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thank you!
<br>
As a reward, I give you <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NASA-Apollo8-Dec24-Earthrise.jpg" title="wikipedia.org">this picture</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you !
As a reward , I give you this picture [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you!
As a reward, I give you this picture [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497174</id>
	<title>Google Readying To Pull Out of China...</title>
	<author>jkiller</author>
	<datestamp>1268759880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google should know that the pull-out method doesn't always work and can yield unwanted progeny.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google should know that the pull-out method does n't always work and can yield unwanted progeny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google should know that the pull-out method doesn't always work and can yield unwanted progeny.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498926</id>
	<title>Re:It should be interesting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268766480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It'll also be interesting to see what happens to *other* companies if Google leaves. People have been mocking the "don't be evil" thing for a while now, so what happens in Google follows through? Does that make all the competing search sites that remain in China evil? When the inevitable next wave of hack attempts are reported, does that make the companies that chose to remain complicit? How about when the next wave of protesters disappear?</p><p>Basically, this could have more impact outside China than inside China. The Chinese may or may not be questioning their government, but the rest of the world will be questioning the other companies...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'll also be interesting to see what happens to * other * companies if Google leaves .
People have been mocking the " do n't be evil " thing for a while now , so what happens in Google follows through ?
Does that make all the competing search sites that remain in China evil ?
When the inevitable next wave of hack attempts are reported , does that make the companies that chose to remain complicit ?
How about when the next wave of protesters disappear ? Basically , this could have more impact outside China than inside China .
The Chinese may or may not be questioning their government , but the rest of the world will be questioning the other companies.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'll also be interesting to see what happens to *other* companies if Google leaves.
People have been mocking the "don't be evil" thing for a while now, so what happens in Google follows through?
Does that make all the competing search sites that remain in China evil?
When the inevitable next wave of hack attempts are reported, does that make the companies that chose to remain complicit?
How about when the next wave of protesters disappear?Basically, this could have more impact outside China than inside China.
The Chinese may or may not be questioning their government, but the rest of the world will be questioning the other companies...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31503606</id>
	<title>Re:What money?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268747460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What money? People keep talking about China as if it is some huge source of profit for google. It is not. Google has a few side startups but its main business, advertising is NOT present in China. There are some chinese advetisers but they advertise OUTSIDE China.</p><p>The amount of revenue is around 300 million dollar. A pathetic amount and that is revenue, not profit.</p><p>where is your source for this statement? I do know people who work in Google China in the area of local advertisement. and they have deal with major chinese portal sites to serve as the search engine in the backend.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What money ?
People keep talking about China as if it is some huge source of profit for google .
It is not .
Google has a few side startups but its main business , advertising is NOT present in China .
There are some chinese advetisers but they advertise OUTSIDE China.The amount of revenue is around 300 million dollar .
A pathetic amount and that is revenue , not profit.where is your source for this statement ?
I do know people who work in Google China in the area of local advertisement .
and they have deal with major chinese portal sites to serve as the search engine in the backend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What money?
People keep talking about China as if it is some huge source of profit for google.
It is not.
Google has a few side startups but its main business, advertising is NOT present in China.
There are some chinese advetisers but they advertise OUTSIDE China.The amount of revenue is around 300 million dollar.
A pathetic amount and that is revenue, not profit.where is your source for this statement?
I do know people who work in Google China in the area of local advertisement.
and they have deal with major chinese portal sites to serve as the search engine in the backend.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31501870</id>
	<title>Re:Yep! Time to pack it up and go home!</title>
	<author>jsac</author>
	<datestamp>1268736300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft can't possibly withdraw from China -- it has a huge investment there that has nothing to do with the search engine market. Microsoft Research Asia is headquartered in Beijing; and a number of product teams have development teams in Shanghai (disclosure: including mine). They just opened a 4000-FTE office complex in one of Shanghai's technical districts.

So I doubt Microsoft is going to close down Bing China out of principle.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft ca n't possibly withdraw from China -- it has a huge investment there that has nothing to do with the search engine market .
Microsoft Research Asia is headquartered in Beijing ; and a number of product teams have development teams in Shanghai ( disclosure : including mine ) .
They just opened a 4000-FTE office complex in one of Shanghai 's technical districts .
So I doubt Microsoft is going to close down Bing China out of principle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft can't possibly withdraw from China -- it has a huge investment there that has nothing to do with the search engine market.
Microsoft Research Asia is headquartered in Beijing; and a number of product teams have development teams in Shanghai (disclosure: including mine).
They just opened a 4000-FTE office complex in one of Shanghai's technical districts.
So I doubt Microsoft is going to close down Bing China out of principle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498246</id>
	<title>Google Scholar</title>
	<author>Mongoose Disciple</author>
	<datestamp>1268763960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In theory, this is why China should care about Google:</p><p><a href="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/02/china-scientists-google/" title="wired.com">http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/02/china-scientists-google/</a> [wired.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In theory , this is why China should care about Google : http : //www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/02/china-scientists-google/ [ wired.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In theory, this is why China should care about Google:http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/02/china-scientists-google/ [wired.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498470</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>Blackhalo</author>
	<datestamp>1268764800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"It would be bad for stocks and any investors would flip out<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... probably even sue."

No grounds.  "Do no evil" is in the charter and it is nebulous enough that shareholders assumed the risk prior to buying shares.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" It would be bad for stocks and any investors would flip out ... probably even sue .
" No grounds .
" Do no evil " is in the charter and it is nebulous enough that shareholders assumed the risk prior to buying shares .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It would be bad for stocks and any investors would flip out ... probably even sue.
"

No grounds.
"Do no evil" is in the charter and it is nebulous enough that shareholders assumed the risk prior to buying shares.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496456</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497868</id>
	<title>Re:Subsidiary</title>
	<author>Spatial</author>
	<datestamp>1268762400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Are they</i> customers?  A billion people doesn't mean a billion people who'll buy your stuff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are they customers ?
A billion people does n't mean a billion people who 'll buy your stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are they customers?
A billion people doesn't mean a billion people who'll buy your stuff.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496638</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498394</id>
	<title>Re:China</title>
	<author>joggle</author>
	<datestamp>1268764500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google hasn't stopped filtering in China, only threatened to stop filtering.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google has n't stopped filtering in China , only threatened to stop filtering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google hasn't stopped filtering in China, only threatened to stop filtering.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496924</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>KermodeBear</author>
	<datestamp>1268759040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Would you pay $10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality?</p></div><p>Personally, I would. I already try to buy products made anywhere but in China - especially anything food or health related - but when it comes to electronics there really isn't a whole lot of choice.</p><p>For desktops and laptops, there IS the option of <a href="http://www.unionbuiltpc.com/aboutus.php" title="unionbuiltpc.com">Union Built PC</a> [unionbuiltpc.com] but the machines are only assembled, not actually made, in North America. I have no idea what the quality is like either.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you pay $ 10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality ? Personally , I would .
I already try to buy products made anywhere but in China - especially anything food or health related - but when it comes to electronics there really is n't a whole lot of choice.For desktops and laptops , there IS the option of Union Built PC [ unionbuiltpc.com ] but the machines are only assembled , not actually made , in North America .
I have no idea what the quality is like either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you pay $10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality?Personally, I would.
I already try to buy products made anywhere but in China - especially anything food or health related - but when it comes to electronics there really isn't a whole lot of choice.For desktops and laptops, there IS the option of Union Built PC [unionbuiltpc.com] but the machines are only assembled, not actually made, in North America.
I have no idea what the quality is like either.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497526</id>
	<title>Is it just me?</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1268761200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Google Readying To Pull Out of China"</p><p>Sounds a bit like coitus interruptus, doesn't it?  Or, am I just a dirty old man, and no one else made the connection?</p><p>And, this makes the nation feminine, and the corporation masculine, right?  What DO you get when you mate an American corporation with a Chinse government?</p><p>Oh - never mind.  I've got it.  <a href="http://iwka.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/abortion\_22\_weeks01.jpg" title="wordpress.com">http://iwka.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/abortion\_22\_weeks01.jpg</a> [wordpress.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Google Readying To Pull Out of China " Sounds a bit like coitus interruptus , does n't it ?
Or , am I just a dirty old man , and no one else made the connection ? And , this makes the nation feminine , and the corporation masculine , right ?
What DO you get when you mate an American corporation with a Chinse government ? Oh - never mind .
I 've got it .
http : //iwka.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/abortion \ _22 \ _weeks01.jpg [ wordpress.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Google Readying To Pull Out of China"Sounds a bit like coitus interruptus, doesn't it?
Or, am I just a dirty old man, and no one else made the connection?And, this makes the nation feminine, and the corporation masculine, right?
What DO you get when you mate an American corporation with a Chinse government?Oh - never mind.
I've got it.
http://iwka.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/abortion\_22\_weeks01.jpg [wordpress.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496982</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>introspekt.i</author>
	<datestamp>1268759220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Schmidt may owe his allegiance to the shareholders, but he might also be able to make the case that pulling out of China (for now) in the name of free speech will add so much value to the Google brand that it may be an opportunity not worth missing.<p><div class="quote"><p>Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma.</p></div><p>How are you so sure?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Pesky ideals and ethics have no place in corporate America.</p></div><p>I think you're being a bit too cynical with Google.  At least thus far, I think they've shown a healthy habit of finding a third way to maintain trust with consumers and build confidence in shareholders.  Google isn't in an invulnerable position.  If they scare their customers enough, people will simply stop using them out of fear of what's going on with their information because they don't trust Google any more.  Google has to appease its user base <em>just as much as</em> its shareholders.  This issue in China might be a case of it falling in favor of its users to protect its brand in its main markets.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Schmidt may owe his allegiance to the shareholders , but he might also be able to make the case that pulling out of China ( for now ) in the name of free speech will add so much value to the Google brand that it may be an opportunity not worth missing.Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma.How are you so sure ? Pesky ideals and ethics have no place in corporate America.I think you 're being a bit too cynical with Google .
At least thus far , I think they 've shown a healthy habit of finding a third way to maintain trust with consumers and build confidence in shareholders .
Google is n't in an invulnerable position .
If they scare their customers enough , people will simply stop using them out of fear of what 's going on with their information because they do n't trust Google any more .
Google has to appease its user base just as much as its shareholders .
This issue in China might be a case of it falling in favor of its users to protect its brand in its main markets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Schmidt may owe his allegiance to the shareholders, but he might also be able to make the case that pulling out of China (for now) in the name of free speech will add so much value to the Google brand that it may be an opportunity not worth missing.Or at least feels the pull and responsibility of profit more so than any sort of ethical dilemma.How are you so sure?Pesky ideals and ethics have no place in corporate America.I think you're being a bit too cynical with Google.
At least thus far, I think they've shown a healthy habit of finding a third way to maintain trust with consumers and build confidence in shareholders.
Google isn't in an invulnerable position.
If they scare their customers enough, people will simply stop using them out of fear of what's going on with their information because they don't trust Google any more.
Google has to appease its user base just as much as its shareholders.
This issue in China might be a case of it falling in favor of its users to protect its brand in its main markets.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497112</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>RMS Eats Toejam</author>
	<datestamp>1268759640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If China won't allow Gmail to be private, then put a big banner on every page: "Your government is watching everything you type," rather than completely withdraw from this 1,100 million person market..</p></div><p>If Google did anything of the sort then the Chinese government would just block every domain Google uses.  Your suggesting is just plain stupid.  Also consider that while there is a large number of people in China, most of them are not on-line.  A very generous estimate would be around 30\%.  While that percentage would give you a higher number of users than the United States, you still have to consider that the purchasing power of these users is still <b>much</b> lower.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If China wo n't allow Gmail to be private , then put a big banner on every page : " Your government is watching everything you type , " rather than completely withdraw from this 1,100 million person market..If Google did anything of the sort then the Chinese government would just block every domain Google uses .
Your suggesting is just plain stupid .
Also consider that while there is a large number of people in China , most of them are not on-line .
A very generous estimate would be around 30 \ % .
While that percentage would give you a higher number of users than the United States , you still have to consider that the purchasing power of these users is still much lower .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If China won't allow Gmail to be private, then put a big banner on every page: "Your government is watching everything you type," rather than completely withdraw from this 1,100 million person market..If Google did anything of the sort then the Chinese government would just block every domain Google uses.
Your suggesting is just plain stupid.
Also consider that while there is a large number of people in China, most of them are not on-line.
A very generous estimate would be around 30\%.
While that percentage would give you a higher number of users than the United States, you still have to consider that the purchasing power of these users is still much lower.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497092</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1268759640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Could a lawsuit have merit when Google's motto is do no evil?</p></div><p>No. And it's not clear that Google's presence was doing harm.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could a lawsuit have merit when Google 's motto is do no evil ? No .
And it 's not clear that Google 's presence was doing harm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could a lawsuit have merit when Google's motto is do no evil?No.
And it's not clear that Google's presence was doing harm.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496582</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1268757960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You read my mind.    "Do no evil" is a good mantra for Google, but it also means they will lose business in China, and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the "default" search engine - namely Microsoft.  So come 2020 we'll have a divided world where Google is the #1 search engine in America/Europe and MS Bing will be #1 in China and its protectorates.</p><p>It's like reading a prequel to Firefly.</p><p>IMHO Google would be better off to enter the Chinese market and gain dominance, and then *gradually* bring more freedoms to the Chinese citizens, by using their economic muscle to buyoff Chinese citizens.  If China won't allow Gmail to be private, then put a big banner on every page: "Your government is watching everything you type," rather than completely withdraw from this 1,100 million person market..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You read my mind .
" Do no evil " is a good mantra for Google , but it also means they will lose business in China , and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the " default " search engine - namely Microsoft .
So come 2020 we 'll have a divided world where Google is the # 1 search engine in America/Europe and MS Bing will be # 1 in China and its protectorates.It 's like reading a prequel to Firefly.IMHO Google would be better off to enter the Chinese market and gain dominance , and then * gradually * bring more freedoms to the Chinese citizens , by using their economic muscle to buyoff Chinese citizens .
If China wo n't allow Gmail to be private , then put a big banner on every page : " Your government is watching everything you type , " rather than completely withdraw from this 1,100 million person market. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You read my mind.
"Do no evil" is a good mantra for Google, but it also means they will lose business in China, and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the "default" search engine - namely Microsoft.
So come 2020 we'll have a divided world where Google is the #1 search engine in America/Europe and MS Bing will be #1 in China and its protectorates.It's like reading a prequel to Firefly.IMHO Google would be better off to enter the Chinese market and gain dominance, and then *gradually* bring more freedoms to the Chinese citizens, by using their economic muscle to buyoff Chinese citizens.
If China won't allow Gmail to be private, then put a big banner on every page: "Your government is watching everything you type," rather than completely withdraw from this 1,100 million person market..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499732</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268769600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Who cares about China. Seriously.</p><p>"We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.  Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.  If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."</p><p>Yeah.  Who cares about China?<br>Don't affect us at all!<br>(rolls eyes)</p></div><p>Come and take it.</p><p>* Arms nuclear wareheads.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; Who cares about China .
Seriously. " We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money .
Furthermore we 've decided it 's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans .
If you do n't have the money , we 'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead. " Yeah .
Who cares about China ? Do n't affect us at all !
( rolls eyes ) Come and take it .
* Arms nuclear wareheads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;Who cares about China.
Seriously."We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.
Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.
If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."Yeah.
Who cares about China?Don't affect us at all!
(rolls eyes)Come and take it.
* Arms nuclear wareheads.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31504220</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1268753220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money. Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans. If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."</p></div></blockquote><p>

Uhh... sure.<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/wipes sweat from brow<br> <br>

I thought they would ask for something valuable. Spain is likely to drag down the Euro and Alaska is where Sarah Palin comes from.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money .
Furthermore we 've decided it 's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans .
If you do n't have the money , we 'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead .
" Uhh... sure. /wipes sweat from brow I thought they would ask for something valuable .
Spain is likely to drag down the Euro and Alaska is where Sarah Palin comes from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.
Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.
If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead.
"

Uhh... sure.  /wipes sweat from brow 

I thought they would ask for something valuable.
Spain is likely to drag down the Euro and Alaska is where Sarah Palin comes from.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31506502</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268827860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Anyway.. (NOT COWARD)<br>I'm sick and tired of leaving my data everywhere in the web.. Is enough..<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..openID just takes a long time...</p><p>About Google.. they have almost 3 month saying good bye.. like poor's people circus GOODBYE(so long goodbye) drunk's men goodbye. I could bet they'll stay..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyway.. ( NOT COWARD ) I 'm sick and tired of leaving my data everywhere in the web.. Is enough.. ..openID just takes a long time...About Google.. they have almost 3 month saying good bye.. like poor 's people circus GOODBYE ( so long goodbye ) drunk 's men goodbye .
I could bet they 'll stay. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Anyway.. (NOT COWARD)I'm sick and tired of leaving my data everywhere in the web.. Is enough.. ..openID just takes a long time...About Google.. they have almost 3 month saying good bye.. like poor's people circus GOODBYE(so long goodbye) drunk's men goodbye.
I could bet they'll stay..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497046</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>Darth\_brooks</author>
	<datestamp>1268759460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's all well and good except for every lawyer's favorite word: Precedent.</p><p>When, and sadly it's looking more and more like when rather than if, the western governments start stepping up the level of access they want to google's data, Google can pull out that giant trump card of calling said government's policies socialist and horrifyingly invasive, taking a moral (and populist) stand against the evils government oppression by comparing said government to China. (while conveniently forgetting the whole argument about whether or not it's safe for a private company to have the same data...)</p><p>(For the record, that's legitimately socialist, not the "Obamacare == teh socialists!!!111eleventyone!")</p><p>Now, is Google ever going to pull out of the US? or a similar market? I highly doubt it. But the precedent is there; Play nice or fuck off. I also feel like Google's walking away from a market where they aren't really that strong, and probably won't every really be that strong, to begin with. Baidu is supposedly the bee's knees over there, and they seem to have no problem cooperating with the government. Google probably wasn't ever going to take that stance, so they get to take a nice parting potshot as they go.</p><p>Besides, there are a billion or so folks in India who've got at least a slightly more tolerable government, and there are a couple hundred million Brazilians that are stepping up into a nice middle class as well. Perhaps, just perhaps, China may not be the be-all end-all of "emerging markets." If the internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it, then it would appear business can do the same thing with uncooperative governments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's all well and good except for every lawyer 's favorite word : Precedent.When , and sadly it 's looking more and more like when rather than if , the western governments start stepping up the level of access they want to google 's data , Google can pull out that giant trump card of calling said government 's policies socialist and horrifyingly invasive , taking a moral ( and populist ) stand against the evils government oppression by comparing said government to China .
( while conveniently forgetting the whole argument about whether or not it 's safe for a private company to have the same data... ) ( For the record , that 's legitimately socialist , not the " Obamacare = = teh socialists ! ! ! 111eleventyone !
" ) Now , is Google ever going to pull out of the US ?
or a similar market ?
I highly doubt it .
But the precedent is there ; Play nice or fuck off .
I also feel like Google 's walking away from a market where they are n't really that strong , and probably wo n't every really be that strong , to begin with .
Baidu is supposedly the bee 's knees over there , and they seem to have no problem cooperating with the government .
Google probably was n't ever going to take that stance , so they get to take a nice parting potshot as they go.Besides , there are a billion or so folks in India who 've got at least a slightly more tolerable government , and there are a couple hundred million Brazilians that are stepping up into a nice middle class as well .
Perhaps , just perhaps , China may not be the be-all end-all of " emerging markets .
" If the internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it , then it would appear business can do the same thing with uncooperative governments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's all well and good except for every lawyer's favorite word: Precedent.When, and sadly it's looking more and more like when rather than if, the western governments start stepping up the level of access they want to google's data, Google can pull out that giant trump card of calling said government's policies socialist and horrifyingly invasive, taking a moral (and populist) stand against the evils government oppression by comparing said government to China.
(while conveniently forgetting the whole argument about whether or not it's safe for a private company to have the same data...)(For the record, that's legitimately socialist, not the "Obamacare == teh socialists!!!111eleventyone!
")Now, is Google ever going to pull out of the US?
or a similar market?
I highly doubt it.
But the precedent is there; Play nice or fuck off.
I also feel like Google's walking away from a market where they aren't really that strong, and probably won't every really be that strong, to begin with.
Baidu is supposedly the bee's knees over there, and they seem to have no problem cooperating with the government.
Google probably wasn't ever going to take that stance, so they get to take a nice parting potshot as they go.Besides, there are a billion or so folks in India who've got at least a slightly more tolerable government, and there are a couple hundred million Brazilians that are stepping up into a nice middle class as well.
Perhaps, just perhaps, China may not be the be-all end-all of "emerging markets.
" If the internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it, then it would appear business can do the same thing with uncooperative governments.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497636</id>
	<title>What's wrong with being an ethical company?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268761500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems that Google can't win.  Either they make a deal with the devil as SputnikPanic puts it, or they behave ethically and attract savage criticism from armchair quarterbacks everywhere.</p><p>Google has a corporate culture of idealism, no doubt fed by the youthfulness of its top executives and much of its staff.  Beyond that, they have traditionally been a good corporate citizen, giving a lot of their work back to the community by open sourcing it.</p><p>They created the Android phone operating system to be an open alternative to the various proprietary systems.  Anyone can take it and run with it.  A whole menagerie of excellent smart phones has emerged with Google technology at their core.</p><p>Almost all of Google's apps--search, email, scholar, news, maps, voice, and on and on--are free to use, usually in exchange for mild ad text and aggregated use data.</p><p>Google gets it.  They do things right.  They reward innovation, they encourage creativity.  They are the epitome of a great American company.</p><p>Therefore, to top off their greatness by refusing to deal with a censoring, dissident-hacking corrupt communist-only-in-name dictatorship is both admirable and gutsy and uniquely American.  If only all American companies operated on principles rather than pure greed, think what a better society we would have, and a better world.</p><p>I feel duty-bound to support Google in whatever ways I can.  Right now it's my Nexus One phone, my gmail, and when I have some spare cash I'll buy a few shares of stock.  Go, Google!  Show those arrogant turds that at least a few Americans still believe in freedom over profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems that Google ca n't win .
Either they make a deal with the devil as SputnikPanic puts it , or they behave ethically and attract savage criticism from armchair quarterbacks everywhere.Google has a corporate culture of idealism , no doubt fed by the youthfulness of its top executives and much of its staff .
Beyond that , they have traditionally been a good corporate citizen , giving a lot of their work back to the community by open sourcing it.They created the Android phone operating system to be an open alternative to the various proprietary systems .
Anyone can take it and run with it .
A whole menagerie of excellent smart phones has emerged with Google technology at their core.Almost all of Google 's apps--search , email , scholar , news , maps , voice , and on and on--are free to use , usually in exchange for mild ad text and aggregated use data.Google gets it .
They do things right .
They reward innovation , they encourage creativity .
They are the epitome of a great American company.Therefore , to top off their greatness by refusing to deal with a censoring , dissident-hacking corrupt communist-only-in-name dictatorship is both admirable and gutsy and uniquely American .
If only all American companies operated on principles rather than pure greed , think what a better society we would have , and a better world.I feel duty-bound to support Google in whatever ways I can .
Right now it 's my Nexus One phone , my gmail , and when I have some spare cash I 'll buy a few shares of stock .
Go , Google !
Show those arrogant turds that at least a few Americans still believe in freedom over profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems that Google can't win.
Either they make a deal with the devil as SputnikPanic puts it, or they behave ethically and attract savage criticism from armchair quarterbacks everywhere.Google has a corporate culture of idealism, no doubt fed by the youthfulness of its top executives and much of its staff.
Beyond that, they have traditionally been a good corporate citizen, giving a lot of their work back to the community by open sourcing it.They created the Android phone operating system to be an open alternative to the various proprietary systems.
Anyone can take it and run with it.
A whole menagerie of excellent smart phones has emerged with Google technology at their core.Almost all of Google's apps--search, email, scholar, news, maps, voice, and on and on--are free to use, usually in exchange for mild ad text and aggregated use data.Google gets it.
They do things right.
They reward innovation, they encourage creativity.
They are the epitome of a great American company.Therefore, to top off their greatness by refusing to deal with a censoring, dissident-hacking corrupt communist-only-in-name dictatorship is both admirable and gutsy and uniquely American.
If only all American companies operated on principles rather than pure greed, think what a better society we would have, and a better world.I feel duty-bound to support Google in whatever ways I can.
Right now it's my Nexus One phone, my gmail, and when I have some spare cash I'll buy a few shares of stock.
Go, Google!
Show those arrogant turds that at least a few Americans still believe in freedom over profit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31500136</id>
	<title>Utilitarianism</title>
	<author>cryfreedomlove</author>
	<datestamp>1268771280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't think Chinese leadership is inflexible by western standards.  Rather, I think they're completely pragmatic and utilitarian.  If Google were to make it worth their while, they'd probably be willing to negotiate, however, I don't think Google's willing to go as far as that takes.  "Flexible" is a relative term.</p></div><p>Are you defending pragmatic utilitarianism as a basis for government law?  What do you say about the moral implications of not respecting Freedom Of Speech?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think Chinese leadership is inflexible by western standards .
Rather , I think they 're completely pragmatic and utilitarian .
If Google were to make it worth their while , they 'd probably be willing to negotiate , however , I do n't think Google 's willing to go as far as that takes .
" Flexible " is a relative term.Are you defending pragmatic utilitarianism as a basis for government law ?
What do you say about the moral implications of not respecting Freedom Of Speech ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think Chinese leadership is inflexible by western standards.
Rather, I think they're completely pragmatic and utilitarian.
If Google were to make it worth their while, they'd probably be willing to negotiate, however, I don't think Google's willing to go as far as that takes.
"Flexible" is a relative term.Are you defending pragmatic utilitarianism as a basis for government law?
What do you say about the moral implications of not respecting Freedom Of Speech?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499344</id>
	<title>Great analysis of China vs. Google</title>
	<author>rsborg</author>
	<datestamp>1268768100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>from Charles High Smith, <a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/193951-understanding-the-china-google-conundrum?source=feed" title="seekingalpha.com">courtesy of SeekingAlpha</a> [seekingalpha.com]:<blockquote><div><p> <b>In essence, Google questioned the status quo too directly, and so it has been silenced by being driven into exile.</b> To do anything other than exile Google would have caused the Central Government to lose face, which is a humiliation which must not be allowed.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>from Charles High Smith , courtesy of SeekingAlpha [ seekingalpha.com ] : In essence , Google questioned the status quo too directly , and so it has been silenced by being driven into exile .
To do anything other than exile Google would have caused the Central Government to lose face , which is a humiliation which must not be allowed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from Charles High Smith, courtesy of SeekingAlpha [seekingalpha.com]: In essence, Google questioned the status quo too directly, and so it has been silenced by being driven into exile.
To do anything other than exile Google would have caused the Central Government to lose face, which is a humiliation which must not be allowed.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496704</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1268758320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm pretty sure that "do no evil" slogan isn't legally binding...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure that " do no evil " slogan is n't legally binding.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure that "do no evil" slogan isn't legally binding...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497884</id>
	<title>Pull Out</title>
	<author>mschoolbus</author>
	<datestamp>1268762400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pulling out has always worked for me..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pulling out has always worked for me. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pulling out has always worked for me..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496410</id>
	<title>Yahoo/Microsoft</title>
	<author>\_PimpDaddy7\_</author>
	<datestamp>1268757480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and I'm sure Microsoft and Yahoo will be more than willing to fill in any gaps...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and I 'm sure Microsoft and Yahoo will be more than willing to fill in any gaps.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and I'm sure Microsoft and Yahoo will be more than willing to fill in any gaps...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496702</id>
	<title>What money?</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1268758320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What money? People keep talking about China as if it is some huge source of profit for google. It is not. Google has a few side startups but its main business, advertising is NOT present in China. There are some chinese advetisers but they advertise OUTSIDE China.
</p><p>The amount of revenue is around 300 million dollar. A pathetic amount and that is revenue, not profit.
</p><p>The MBA's have long since declared China as some kind of holy grail, were the streets are made of gold and profits just happen. But it just ain't turning out that way.
</p><p>For europeans, the US of A was much the same. Oh if we can only launch our product over there, we will have it made. Forget, if you are big in Holland then a flea can squash you in the US. You are nothing. Do 10 miljoen euro's and you will be a tiny blip as a Humvee drives over you. Conquer the german market, go south to france. Not instantly across the ocean, with insane transportation costs, gap in working hours, cultural differences.
</p><p>Google did have long term plans for China, but they might be wondering that with the little result so far, it is actually worth the hassle.
</p><p>And I think China might be bluffing as well. If Google moves out, they might not loose all that much, but others could start to examine their own future in China.
</p><p>In itself, it is not unusual for a company to rethink its activities in a region.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What money ?
People keep talking about China as if it is some huge source of profit for google .
It is not .
Google has a few side startups but its main business , advertising is NOT present in China .
There are some chinese advetisers but they advertise OUTSIDE China .
The amount of revenue is around 300 million dollar .
A pathetic amount and that is revenue , not profit .
The MBA 's have long since declared China as some kind of holy grail , were the streets are made of gold and profits just happen .
But it just ai n't turning out that way .
For europeans , the US of A was much the same .
Oh if we can only launch our product over there , we will have it made .
Forget , if you are big in Holland then a flea can squash you in the US .
You are nothing .
Do 10 miljoen euro 's and you will be a tiny blip as a Humvee drives over you .
Conquer the german market , go south to france .
Not instantly across the ocean , with insane transportation costs , gap in working hours , cultural differences .
Google did have long term plans for China , but they might be wondering that with the little result so far , it is actually worth the hassle .
And I think China might be bluffing as well .
If Google moves out , they might not loose all that much , but others could start to examine their own future in China .
In itself , it is not unusual for a company to rethink its activities in a region .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What money?
People keep talking about China as if it is some huge source of profit for google.
It is not.
Google has a few side startups but its main business, advertising is NOT present in China.
There are some chinese advetisers but they advertise OUTSIDE China.
The amount of revenue is around 300 million dollar.
A pathetic amount and that is revenue, not profit.
The MBA's have long since declared China as some kind of holy grail, were the streets are made of gold and profits just happen.
But it just ain't turning out that way.
For europeans, the US of A was much the same.
Oh if we can only launch our product over there, we will have it made.
Forget, if you are big in Holland then a flea can squash you in the US.
You are nothing.
Do 10 miljoen euro's and you will be a tiny blip as a Humvee drives over you.
Conquer the german market, go south to france.
Not instantly across the ocean, with insane transportation costs, gap in working hours, cultural differences.
Google did have long term plans for China, but they might be wondering that with the little result so far, it is actually worth the hassle.
And I think China might be bluffing as well.
If Google moves out, they might not loose all that much, but others could start to examine their own future in China.
In itself, it is not unusual for a company to rethink its activities in a region.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497256</id>
	<title>I'm glad to hear Google is pulling out...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268760120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>because China is already over populated. I still prefer condoms though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>because China is already over populated .
I still prefer condoms though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>because China is already over populated.
I still prefer condoms though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496782</id>
	<title>Re:Enderle</title>
	<author>Sagelinka</author>
	<datestamp>1268758560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lol the whole point of bringing up Enderle is to show his opinionated statement about Google and China.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lol the whole point of bringing up Enderle is to show his opinionated statement about Google and China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lol the whole point of bringing up Enderle is to show his opinionated statement about Google and China.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31506964</id>
	<title>Re:China</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268832240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give it time....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give it time... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give it time....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496906</id>
	<title>Ask Mary how well abstinence worked for her</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268758980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... or for that matter any of the states with skyrocketing pregnancy rates....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... or for that matter any of the states with skyrocketing pregnancy rates... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... or for that matter any of the states with skyrocketing pregnancy rates....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31500338</id>
	<title>going once, going twice, ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268772180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get out of there already!</p><p>Google's announcements remind me of a store in a local mall with "Going Out of business sale, up to 70\% discount" sign for several years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get out of there already ! Google 's announcements remind me of a store in a local mall with " Going Out of business sale , up to 70 \ % discount " sign for several years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get out of there already!Google's announcements remind me of a store in a local mall with "Going Out of business sale, up to 70\% discount" sign for several years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496544</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>Stargoat</author>
	<datestamp>1268757840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Could a lawsuit have merit when Google's motto is do no evil?  It is clear that their presence in China was creating harm.</p><p>On another note, I agree that google.cn will not be going anywhere.  If nothing else, it would be a big FU to China to leave it as is but remove all censorship.  Heck, pulling it might be construed as surrendering to censorship and therefore evil.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could a lawsuit have merit when Google 's motto is do no evil ?
It is clear that their presence in China was creating harm.On another note , I agree that google.cn will not be going anywhere .
If nothing else , it would be a big FU to China to leave it as is but remove all censorship .
Heck , pulling it might be construed as surrendering to censorship and therefore evil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could a lawsuit have merit when Google's motto is do no evil?
It is clear that their presence in China was creating harm.On another note, I agree that google.cn will not be going anywhere.
If nothing else, it would be a big FU to China to leave it as is but remove all censorship.
Heck, pulling it might be construed as surrendering to censorship and therefore evil.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496796</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>c</author>
	<datestamp>1268758620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as<br>&gt; the "default" search engine - namely Microsoft.</p><p>I agree with the "somebody else" part, but if you think the chinese gateway to the Internet (which is what a search engine is these days) is going to be any company not directly under the thumb of the chinese government...</p><p>Baidu, sure. Bing, no.</p><p>c.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; ... and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as &gt; the " default " search engine - namely Microsoft.I agree with the " somebody else " part , but if you think the chinese gateway to the Internet ( which is what a search engine is these days ) is going to be any company not directly under the thumb of the chinese government...Baidu , sure .
Bing , no.c .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; ... and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as&gt; the "default" search engine - namely Microsoft.I agree with the "somebody else" part, but if you think the chinese gateway to the Internet (which is what a search engine is these days) is going to be any company not directly under the thumb of the chinese government...Baidu, sure.
Bing, no.c.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496420</id>
	<title>Good.</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1268757480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I doubt they came to this conclusion lightly, but whatever their reasons are for leaving (either humanitarian or because they got hacked), I'm glad to see them making what I believe to be the right choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt they came to this conclusion lightly , but whatever their reasons are for leaving ( either humanitarian or because they got hacked ) , I 'm glad to see them making what I believe to be the right choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt they came to this conclusion lightly, but whatever their reasons are for leaving (either humanitarian or because they got hacked), I'm glad to see them making what I believe to be the right choice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496500</id>
	<title>Rob Enderle? OMG!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268757780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This guy is a known paid MSFT shill.</p><p>An opinion from Rob and $2.50 would get you a small latte at Starbucks.</p><p>Rob is a complete tool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This guy is a known paid MSFT shill.An opinion from Rob and $ 2.50 would get you a small latte at Starbucks.Rob is a complete tool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This guy is a known paid MSFT shill.An opinion from Rob and $2.50 would get you a small latte at Starbucks.Rob is a complete tool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496872</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>c++0xFF</author>
	<datestamp>1268758860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Do no evil" is a good mantra for Google, but it also means they will lose business in China, and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the "default" search engine - namely Microsoft</p></div><p>A doctor pledges to "do no harm."</p><p>Hypothetical situation: a patient asks for a dangerous treatment.  The doctor has to chose between providing this treatment himself or letting the patient go to a second-rate doctor.  In the first case, he might be harming the patient, but more harm might be done by letting him go.</p><p>Google has a similar situation: either provide the censored results or let someone else do it.  Either way the Chinese are harmed<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but maybe it's better for Google to do the harm and fight for better protections as time goes on.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Do no evil " is a good mantra for Google , but it also means they will lose business in China , and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the " default " search engine - namely MicrosoftA doctor pledges to " do no harm .
" Hypothetical situation : a patient asks for a dangerous treatment .
The doctor has to chose between providing this treatment himself or letting the patient go to a second-rate doctor .
In the first case , he might be harming the patient , but more harm might be done by letting him go.Google has a similar situation : either provide the censored results or let someone else do it .
Either way the Chinese are harmed ... but maybe it 's better for Google to do the harm and fight for better protections as time goes on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Do no evil" is a good mantra for Google, but it also means they will lose business in China, and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the "default" search engine - namely MicrosoftA doctor pledges to "do no harm.
"Hypothetical situation: a patient asks for a dangerous treatment.
The doctor has to chose between providing this treatment himself or letting the patient go to a second-rate doctor.
In the first case, he might be harming the patient, but more harm might be done by letting him go.Google has a similar situation: either provide the censored results or let someone else do it.
Either way the Chinese are harmed ... but maybe it's better for Google to do the harm and fight for better protections as time goes on.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31504964</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1268761380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Grats, an early christmas present! <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35886780/ns/business-world\_business" title="msn.com">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35886780/ns/business-world\_business</a> [msn.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Grats , an early christmas present !
http : //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35886780/ns/business-world \ _business [ msn.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Grats, an early christmas present!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35886780/ns/business-world\_business [msn.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31500416</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268772480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The loans are not callable.<br>And the limit of our liability is whatever assets are in their countries.</p><p>China has bought trillions to keep their currency from appreciating.  When they stop buying, the currency appreciates anyway and those trillions in purchases lose significant value.  So yea, they are going to lose trillions of bucks whatever they do.</p><p>In the meant time, the US got cheap goods and they got jobs and a chance to build infrastructure.</p><p>But you don't suppress your currency value for as long as they did and as much as they did without paying for it at some point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The loans are not callable.And the limit of our liability is whatever assets are in their countries.China has bought trillions to keep their currency from appreciating .
When they stop buying , the currency appreciates anyway and those trillions in purchases lose significant value .
So yea , they are going to lose trillions of bucks whatever they do.In the meant time , the US got cheap goods and they got jobs and a chance to build infrastructure.But you do n't suppress your currency value for as long as they did and as much as they did without paying for it at some point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The loans are not callable.And the limit of our liability is whatever assets are in their countries.China has bought trillions to keep their currency from appreciating.
When they stop buying, the currency appreciates anyway and those trillions in purchases lose significant value.
So yea, they are going to lose trillions of bucks whatever they do.In the meant time, the US got cheap goods and they got jobs and a chance to build infrastructure.But you don't suppress your currency value for as long as they did and as much as they did without paying for it at some point.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497088</id>
	<title>My Interpretation:</title>
	<author>drolli</author>
	<datestamp>1268759580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Chinese Gov: you have to censor, it is the law.<br>Google: ok we follow the law, you dont interfere with our operation<br>Chinese Gov: ok.<br>Google: Somebody hacked us<br>Chinese police: we dont know what you are talking about and we dont investigate<br>Google: that is not nice, we know its something semi-official<br>Chinese Gov: maybe, we dont know nothing</p><p>No, seriously. If you cant rely that the police will investigate some crime which endangers your operation, you leave a country. Even if the guy who hacked hacked for a private purpose *profit* but is utouchable because he may be linked to the gov or the police, you leave.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Chinese Gov : you have to censor , it is the law.Google : ok we follow the law , you dont interfere with our operationChinese Gov : ok.Google : Somebody hacked usChinese police : we dont know what you are talking about and we dont investigateGoogle : that is not nice , we know its something semi-officialChinese Gov : maybe , we dont know nothingNo , seriously .
If you cant rely that the police will investigate some crime which endangers your operation , you leave a country .
Even if the guy who hacked hacked for a private purpose * profit * but is utouchable because he may be linked to the gov or the police , you leave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chinese Gov: you have to censor, it is the law.Google: ok we follow the law, you dont interfere with our operationChinese Gov: ok.Google: Somebody hacked usChinese police: we dont know what you are talking about and we dont investigateGoogle: that is not nice, we know its something semi-officialChinese Gov: maybe, we dont know nothingNo, seriously.
If you cant rely that the police will investigate some crime which endangers your operation, you leave a country.
Even if the guy who hacked hacked for a private purpose *profit* but is utouchable because he may be linked to the gov or the police, you leave.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496988</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>Iyonesco</author>
	<datestamp>1268759220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a reason BIDU hit $630 yesterday having only been $100 a year ago and it's not because Bing will be taking Google's place.</p><p>I can't see Google withdrawing because they'd be handing what will be the world's biggest market  over to a competitor.  The free speech situation would also become worse with BIDU as the main search engine since they'll be far more inclined to do exactly what the government tells them.</p><p>It makes no sense financially or socially so Google would have to be completely stupid to pull out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a reason BIDU hit $ 630 yesterday having only been $ 100 a year ago and it 's not because Bing will be taking Google 's place.I ca n't see Google withdrawing because they 'd be handing what will be the world 's biggest market over to a competitor .
The free speech situation would also become worse with BIDU as the main search engine since they 'll be far more inclined to do exactly what the government tells them.It makes no sense financially or socially so Google would have to be completely stupid to pull out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a reason BIDU hit $630 yesterday having only been $100 a year ago and it's not because Bing will be taking Google's place.I can't see Google withdrawing because they'd be handing what will be the world's biggest market  over to a competitor.
The free speech situation would also become worse with BIDU as the main search engine since they'll be far more inclined to do exactly what the government tells them.It makes no sense financially or socially so Google would have to be completely stupid to pull out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496402</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31499042</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>blueskies</author>
	<datestamp>1268766900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your honor, it says they are supposed to no evil, but they still eat meat.  Please give me all of their money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your honor , it says they are supposed to no evil , but they still eat meat .
Please give me all of their money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your honor, it says they are supposed to no evil, but they still eat meat.
Please give me all of their money.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498146</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>d'fim</author>
	<datestamp>1268763480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because it's the only realistic alternative to being complicit in human rights abuse. Or were you looking for a non-obvious reason?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because it 's the only realistic alternative to being complicit in human rights abuse .
Or were you looking for a non-obvious reason ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because it's the only realistic alternative to being complicit in human rights abuse.
Or were you looking for a non-obvious reason?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497288</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498292</id>
	<title>Re:Enderle</title>
	<author>lehphyro</author>
	<datestamp>1268764080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The USA trying to force other countries to think like them is as inflexible as china government. Instead, you should learn with a civilization thousands of years older than the US.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The USA trying to force other countries to think like them is as inflexible as china government .
Instead , you should learn with a civilization thousands of years older than the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The USA trying to force other countries to think like them is as inflexible as china government.
Instead, you should learn with a civilization thousands of years older than the US.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496576</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497028</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>poetmatt</author>
	<datestamp>1268759400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought this was an excalibur joke about pulling out of China?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought this was an excalibur joke about pulling out of China ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought this was an excalibur joke about pulling out of China?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496396</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497858</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>ckaminski</author>
	<datestamp>1268762340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>We all have to remember that China is probably the last remaining "empire" - until very recently (historically), they've been nothing but a feudal civilization, dominated by emperors from afar.  It's going to take a generation or two to evolve to something like what Hong Kong enjoyed under British colonial rule.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We all have to remember that China is probably the last remaining " empire " - until very recently ( historically ) , they 've been nothing but a feudal civilization , dominated by emperors from afar .
It 's going to take a generation or two to evolve to something like what Hong Kong enjoyed under British colonial rule .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We all have to remember that China is probably the last remaining "empire" - until very recently (historically), they've been nothing but a feudal civilization, dominated by emperors from afar.
It's going to take a generation or two to evolve to something like what Hong Kong enjoyed under British colonial rule.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496716</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498662</id>
	<title>Re:What money?</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1268765580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The amount of revenue is around 300 million dollar.</p></div><p> I believe you misspelled "darra".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The amount of revenue is around 300 million dollar .
I believe you misspelled " darra " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The amount of revenue is around 300 million dollar.
I believe you misspelled "darra".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496702</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497766</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>DdJ</author>
	<datestamp>1268762040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just because one country speaks the same language you do and has the same form of government you do shouldn't make it anymore or less important to you than another country with differences.</p></div><p>Why?  What is the reason you feel my value system should work that way?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just because one country speaks the same language you do and has the same form of government you do should n't make it anymore or less important to you than another country with differences.Why ?
What is the reason you feel my value system should work that way ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just because one country speaks the same language you do and has the same form of government you do shouldn't make it anymore or less important to you than another country with differences.Why?
What is the reason you feel my value system should work that way?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496716</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31501134</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>Dan Ost</author>
	<datestamp>1268732700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason China owns so much US debt is because they're trying to artificially peg their currency to ours. If they sell off the US debt that they own, their currency would gain value relative to the dollar which would reduce their ability to export their goods to just about any other country.</p><p>Quite frankly, it's what the US has been demanding China do for years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason China owns so much US debt is because they 're trying to artificially peg their currency to ours .
If they sell off the US debt that they own , their currency would gain value relative to the dollar which would reduce their ability to export their goods to just about any other country.Quite frankly , it 's what the US has been demanding China do for years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason China owns so much US debt is because they're trying to artificially peg their currency to ours.
If they sell off the US debt that they own, their currency would gain value relative to the dollar which would reduce their ability to export their goods to just about any other country.Quite frankly, it's what the US has been demanding China do for years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496970</id>
	<title>"Do no evil" just a PR tag line</title>
	<author>perpenso</author>
	<datestamp>1268759160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Could a lawsuit have merit when Google's motto is do no evil?</p></div><p>Google's motto may be "do no evil" but Google also gets to decide what constitutes "evil".  Its really just a marketing / public relations tag line.  One should not expect the ethics and sensibilities of company founders to endure in a corporation.  Anyone think HP is run as Mr. Hewlett and Mr. Packard envisioned?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could a lawsuit have merit when Google 's motto is do no evil ? Google 's motto may be " do no evil " but Google also gets to decide what constitutes " evil " .
Its really just a marketing / public relations tag line .
One should not expect the ethics and sensibilities of company founders to endure in a corporation .
Anyone think HP is run as Mr. Hewlett and Mr. Packard envisioned ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could a lawsuit have merit when Google's motto is do no evil?Google's motto may be "do no evil" but Google also gets to decide what constitutes "evil".
Its really just a marketing / public relations tag line.
One should not expect the ethics and sensibilities of company founders to endure in a corporation.
Anyone think HP is run as Mr. Hewlett and Mr. Packard envisioned?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497684</id>
	<title>Pull Out?!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268761680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pull Out?!? That doesn't sound very manly to me!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pull Out ? ! ?
That does n't sound very manly to me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pull Out?!?
That doesn't sound very manly to me!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496652</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>c++0xFF</author>
	<datestamp>1268758140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, 20\% of the world's population doesn't affect the other 80\%?</p><p>You're right that other places have a tighter cultural connection, but you can only ignore an elephant in the room for so long.  Google may only be a mouse, but that's enough to make the elephant pretty mad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , 20 \ % of the world 's population does n't affect the other 80 \ % ? You 're right that other places have a tighter cultural connection , but you can only ignore an elephant in the room for so long .
Google may only be a mouse , but that 's enough to make the elephant pretty mad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, 20\% of the world's population doesn't affect the other 80\%?You're right that other places have a tighter cultural connection, but you can only ignore an elephant in the room for so long.
Google may only be a mouse, but that's enough to make the elephant pretty mad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496416</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496730</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268758440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Who cares about China. Seriously.</p><p>"We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.  Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.  If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."</p><p>Yeah.  Who cares about China?<br>Don't affect us at all!<br>(rolls eyes)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; Who cares about China .
Seriously. " We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money .
Furthermore we 've decided it 's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans .
If you do n't have the money , we 'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead. " Yeah .
Who cares about China ? Do n't affect us at all !
( rolls eyes )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;Who cares about China.
Seriously."We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.
Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.
If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."Yeah.
Who cares about China?Don't affect us at all!
(rolls eyes)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496416</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496408</id>
	<title>I think Rob though Google thought...</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1268757480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Jesus Breakdancing Christ, it's bad enough when Legacy Media gives time to Rob "All your code base are belong to SCO" Enderle, but what possible purpose is there to mention him on Slashdot, other than to troll us?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Jesus Breakdancing Christ , it 's bad enough when Legacy Media gives time to Rob " All your code base are belong to SCO " Enderle , but what possible purpose is there to mention him on Slashdot , other than to troll us ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jesus Breakdancing Christ, it's bad enough when Legacy Media gives time to Rob "All your code base are belong to SCO" Enderle, but what possible purpose is there to mention him on Slashdot, other than to troll us?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498596</id>
	<title>New Product Alert</title>
	<author>MrTripps</author>
	<datestamp>1268765340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hoodies that say "This is not the hoodie you are looking for" is ripe for geek fashion. Of course, only those resistant to Jedi mind powers would be able to find it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hoodies that say " This is not the hoodie you are looking for " is ripe for geek fashion .
Of course , only those resistant to Jedi mind powers would be able to find it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hoodies that say "This is not the hoodie you are looking for" is ripe for geek fashion.
Of course, only those resistant to Jedi mind powers would be able to find it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31500740</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268730900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if it was just slightly less censored than the competition, it still did some good for the chinese people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if it was just slightly less censored than the competition , it still did some good for the chinese people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if it was just slightly less censored than the competition, it still did some good for the chinese people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496396</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497214</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>spooje</author>
	<datestamp>1268760000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>You read my mind. "Do no evil" is a good mantra for Google, but it also means they will lose business in China, and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the "default" search engine - namely Microsoft. So come 2020 we'll have a divided world where Google is the #1 search engine in America/Europe and MS Bing will be #1 in China and its protectorates.</i>

<p>No, Baidu will be the default search engine.  Oh, but wait it already is!</p><p>It's not as if Google didn't <i>try</i> to dominate the market in China, but the government interfering in their products and the locals just plain liking Baidu better they couldn't.  You're also confusing google.cn with other products like Gmail and google apps.  Google.cn is what's being shut down because it's the only legal business google has here.  The Chinese government has no control over what happens on google.com and can't censor any search results because they come from the US.</p><p>If Google shuts down google.cn then the Chinese government will probably retaliate and block google.com, but they are two completely different things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You read my mind .
" Do no evil " is a good mantra for Google , but it also means they will lose business in China , and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the " default " search engine - namely Microsoft .
So come 2020 we 'll have a divided world where Google is the # 1 search engine in America/Europe and MS Bing will be # 1 in China and its protectorates .
No , Baidu will be the default search engine .
Oh , but wait it already is ! It 's not as if Google did n't try to dominate the market in China , but the government interfering in their products and the locals just plain liking Baidu better they could n't .
You 're also confusing google.cn with other products like Gmail and google apps .
Google.cn is what 's being shut down because it 's the only legal business google has here .
The Chinese government has no control over what happens on google.com and ca n't censor any search results because they come from the US.If Google shuts down google.cn then the Chinese government will probably retaliate and block google.com , but they are two completely different things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You read my mind.
"Do no evil" is a good mantra for Google, but it also means they will lose business in China, and somebody else will gain a virtually monopoly as the "default" search engine - namely Microsoft.
So come 2020 we'll have a divided world where Google is the #1 search engine in America/Europe and MS Bing will be #1 in China and its protectorates.
No, Baidu will be the default search engine.
Oh, but wait it already is!It's not as if Google didn't try to dominate the market in China, but the government interfering in their products and the locals just plain liking Baidu better they couldn't.
You're also confusing google.cn with other products like Gmail and google apps.
Google.cn is what's being shut down because it's the only legal business google has here.
The Chinese government has no control over what happens on google.com and can't censor any search results because they come from the US.If Google shuts down google.cn then the Chinese government will probably retaliate and block google.com, but they are two completely different things.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496582</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497376</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>CharlyFoxtrot</author>
	<datestamp>1268760540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Who cares about China. Seriously.</p><p>"We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.  Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.  If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."</p><p>Yeah.  Who cares about China?<br>Don't affect us at all!<br>(rolls eyes)</p></div><p>Haha, like they could take any european or US territory. MAD still exists, and that not only goes for the nukes: as the old saying goes if you can't pay back a $100 dollar loan you've got a problem but if you can't pay back a billion dollar loan the bank has a problem. Why do you think they've been buying up commodities left and right with a small part of those treasuries ? Besides if they stop their industry by no longer exporting to us they're stuck with a billion out of work and hungry people with nothing to do but to contemplate the difference between them and the party officials. No we're all in the same (currently very leaky) boat.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; Who cares about China .
Seriously. " We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money .
Furthermore we 've decided it 's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans .
If you do n't have the money , we 'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead. " Yeah .
Who cares about China ? Do n't affect us at all !
( rolls eyes ) Haha , like they could take any european or US territory .
MAD still exists , and that not only goes for the nukes : as the old saying goes if you ca n't pay back a $ 100 dollar loan you 've got a problem but if you ca n't pay back a billion dollar loan the bank has a problem .
Why do you think they 've been buying up commodities left and right with a small part of those treasuries ?
Besides if they stop their industry by no longer exporting to us they 're stuck with a billion out of work and hungry people with nothing to do but to contemplate the difference between them and the party officials .
No we 're all in the same ( currently very leaky ) boat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;Who cares about China.
Seriously."We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.
Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.
If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."Yeah.
Who cares about China?Don't affect us at all!
(rolls eyes)Haha, like they could take any european or US territory.
MAD still exists, and that not only goes for the nukes: as the old saying goes if you can't pay back a $100 dollar loan you've got a problem but if you can't pay back a billion dollar loan the bank has a problem.
Why do you think they've been buying up commodities left and right with a small part of those treasuries ?
Besides if they stop their industry by no longer exporting to us they're stuck with a billion out of work and hungry people with nothing to do but to contemplate the difference between them and the party officials.
No we're all in the same (currently very leaky) boat.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497592</id>
	<title>Welcome to the real world, Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268761380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google maybe thought Apple would be flexible, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google maybe thought Apple would be flexible , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google maybe thought Apple would be flexible, too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496396</id>
	<title>Never should have been there</title>
	<author>SputnikPanic</author>
	<datestamp>1268757480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good. Google should never have made that devil's bargain in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good .
Google should never have made that devil 's bargain in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good.
Google should never have made that devil's bargain in the first place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496672</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268758200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty sure Baidu's 60+\% market share is going to hold in China...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty sure Baidu 's 60 + \ % market share is going to hold in China.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty sure Baidu's 60+\% market share is going to hold in China...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496582</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496416</id>
	<title>What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268757480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who cares about China. Seriously. What happens there with Google affects most of us absolutely not at all.</p><p>Now, what is happening with censorship in Australia? What direction is the censorship, privacy, and IP situation in the UK going? How much more religious absolutism can the U.S. take before we head down that road too?</p><p>These are topics much closer to home with a much greater impact on us.</p><p>What a bunch of Google execs will do with a handful of employees in China... not so much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares about China .
Seriously. What happens there with Google affects most of us absolutely not at all.Now , what is happening with censorship in Australia ?
What direction is the censorship , privacy , and IP situation in the UK going ?
How much more religious absolutism can the U.S. take before we head down that road too ? These are topics much closer to home with a much greater impact on us.What a bunch of Google execs will do with a handful of employees in China... not so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares about China.
Seriously. What happens there with Google affects most of us absolutely not at all.Now, what is happening with censorship in Australia?
What direction is the censorship, privacy, and IP situation in the UK going?
How much more religious absolutism can the U.S. take before we head down that road too?These are topics much closer to home with a much greater impact on us.What a bunch of Google execs will do with a handful of employees in China... not so much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498864</id>
	<title>I'd be willing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268766240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...to fill in your MOM'S gap!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...to fill in your MOM 'S gap !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...to fill in your MOM'S gap!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496410</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497908</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>segedunum</author>
	<datestamp>1268762580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So, 20\% of the world's population doesn't affect the other 80\%?</p></div></blockquote><p>
Over 90\% of that 20\% are still out in rice fields. The notion that China is some El Dorado with untold riches and untapped markets is total crap. The Chinese work on the principle that you can invest but they want it all for themselves. If Microsoft think they're going to get Bing anywhere there then they're badly mistaken, but then, they have to try anything with Bing right now.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , 20 \ % of the world 's population does n't affect the other 80 \ % ?
Over 90 \ % of that 20 \ % are still out in rice fields .
The notion that China is some El Dorado with untold riches and untapped markets is total crap .
The Chinese work on the principle that you can invest but they want it all for themselves .
If Microsoft think they 're going to get Bing anywhere there then they 're badly mistaken , but then , they have to try anything with Bing right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, 20\% of the world's population doesn't affect the other 80\%?
Over 90\% of that 20\% are still out in rice fields.
The notion that China is some El Dorado with untold riches and untapped markets is total crap.
The Chinese work on the principle that you can invest but they want it all for themselves.
If Microsoft think they're going to get Bing anywhere there then they're badly mistaken, but then, they have to try anything with Bing right now.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496652</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496628</id>
	<title>Trade secrets</title>
	<author>Nimey</author>
	<datestamp>1268758080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe former Google.cn employees will find themselves pressured into giving away Google's trade secrets to the Chinese government.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe former Google.cn employees will find themselves pressured into giving away Google 's trade secrets to the Chinese government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe former Google.cn employees will find themselves pressured into giving away Google's trade secrets to the Chinese government.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497486</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>nospam007</author>
	<datestamp>1268760960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"So, 20\% of the world's population doesn't affect the other 80\%?"</p><p>I don't know about you and your Google stock, but personally, I don't give a shit if they use Veronica on Lynx instead of Google on Firefox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" So , 20 \ % of the world 's population does n't affect the other 80 \ % ?
" I do n't know about you and your Google stock , but personally , I do n't give a shit if they use Veronica on Lynx instead of Google on Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"So, 20\% of the world's population doesn't affect the other 80\%?
"I don't know about you and your Google stock, but personally, I don't give a shit if they use Veronica on Lynx instead of Google on Firefox.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496652</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497396</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>Prien715</author>
	<datestamp>1268760600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Taiwan is not China (despite the latter's insistence)...which is where most Asus products are made.  They have free elections and a free press.</p><p>I have zero problems buying products from any country with these two features.  Rather than saying "buy made in the USA", we should simply be buying from Europe, Japan, South Korea, India, etc. instead of places with an anti-humanitarian regime that believes in censorship.</p><p>Idealism is more important than patriotism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Taiwan is not China ( despite the latter 's insistence ) ...which is where most Asus products are made .
They have free elections and a free press.I have zero problems buying products from any country with these two features .
Rather than saying " buy made in the USA " , we should simply be buying from Europe , Japan , South Korea , India , etc .
instead of places with an anti-humanitarian regime that believes in censorship.Idealism is more important than patriotism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Taiwan is not China (despite the latter's insistence)...which is where most Asus products are made.
They have free elections and a free press.I have zero problems buying products from any country with these two features.
Rather than saying "buy made in the USA", we should simply be buying from Europe, Japan, South Korea, India, etc.
instead of places with an anti-humanitarian regime that believes in censorship.Idealism is more important than patriotism.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496640</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31504176</id>
	<title>Call me skeptical</title>
	<author>d\_54321</author>
	<datestamp>1268752860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was very excited to hear this from Google back in January. Then weeks went by and nothing happened.  I'll believe it when I see it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was very excited to hear this from Google back in January .
Then weeks went by and nothing happened .
I 'll believe it when I see it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was very excited to hear this from Google back in January.
Then weeks went by and nothing happened.
I'll believe it when I see it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31500200</id>
	<title>Congratulations</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268771580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congratulations Google even for considering this!</p><p>It's about time that someone says no to that oppressing government.<br>Giving the Olympics to them was already an outrageous blasphemy of every single message the Olympics stands for....</p><p>Good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations Google even for considering this ! It 's about time that someone says no to that oppressing government.Giving the Olympics to them was already an outrageous blasphemy of every single message the Olympics stands for....Good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations Google even for considering this!It's about time that someone says no to that oppressing government.Giving the Olympics to them was already an outrageous blasphemy of every single message the Olympics stands for....Good.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496942</id>
	<title>Obligatory Simpsons Quote</title>
	<author>MrTripps</author>
	<datestamp>1268759100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Come on, China! You used to be cool!" Expecting an oppressive regime to be flexible is usually a precept to disappointment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Come on , China !
You used to be cool !
" Expecting an oppressive regime to be flexible is usually a precept to disappointment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Come on, China!
You used to be cool!
" Expecting an oppressive regime to be flexible is usually a precept to disappointment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498690</id>
	<title>Obligatory American Dad! ref:</title>
	<author>JaumPaw</author>
	<datestamp>1268765700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google pulls out of China - China not pregnant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google pulls out of China - China not pregnant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google pulls out of China - China not pregnant.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496966</id>
	<title>China Inc.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268759160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lesson for U.S. co's: Don't even think about compete against China Inc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lesson for U.S. co 's : Do n't even think about compete against China Inc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lesson for U.S. co's: Don't even think about compete against China Inc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31504208</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1268753040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The Nexus 1 is made by HTC probably in China.</p></div></blockquote><p>

HTC is a Taiwanese corporation. Historically China has always had a problem with the country/province of china known as Taiwan. Very few Taiwanese corporations have their products made in China as this is frowned upon by the Taiwanese government and the Chinese government, so such activities have only been permitted in the last few years (as in 3 or 4 years) and is not widespread.<br> <br>

The HTC phones are probably made in Taiwan, or Korea, Japan, Malaysia Thailand or Vietnam. They are likely not to be made in China.</p><blockquote><div><p>The iPhone and most of Apples products are made in China so no Google isn't alone.</p></div></blockquote><p>

WTF does the Iphone have to do with Google, or any Apple product. Google and Apple have completely separated any involvement with each other and their product lines were 100\% separate long before the Google members were forced to resign from Apple's board.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Nexus 1 is made by HTC probably in China .
HTC is a Taiwanese corporation .
Historically China has always had a problem with the country/province of china known as Taiwan .
Very few Taiwanese corporations have their products made in China as this is frowned upon by the Taiwanese government and the Chinese government , so such activities have only been permitted in the last few years ( as in 3 or 4 years ) and is not widespread .
The HTC phones are probably made in Taiwan , or Korea , Japan , Malaysia Thailand or Vietnam .
They are likely not to be made in China.The iPhone and most of Apples products are made in China so no Google is n't alone .
WTF does the Iphone have to do with Google , or any Apple product .
Google and Apple have completely separated any involvement with each other and their product lines were 100 \ % separate long before the Google members were forced to resign from Apple 's board .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Nexus 1 is made by HTC probably in China.
HTC is a Taiwanese corporation.
Historically China has always had a problem with the country/province of china known as Taiwan.
Very few Taiwanese corporations have their products made in China as this is frowned upon by the Taiwanese government and the Chinese government, so such activities have only been permitted in the last few years (as in 3 or 4 years) and is not widespread.
The HTC phones are probably made in Taiwan, or Korea, Japan, Malaysia Thailand or Vietnam.
They are likely not to be made in China.The iPhone and most of Apples products are made in China so no Google isn't alone.
WTF does the Iphone have to do with Google, or any Apple product.
Google and Apple have completely separated any involvement with each other and their product lines were 100\% separate long before the Google members were forced to resign from Apple's board.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496640</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498804</id>
	<title>Re:China</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1268766060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're overestimating how "evil" China is.</p><p>Yeah, they're authoritarian, with censorship and "party watches over you" and what not. It doesn't mean that making a snide remark about Mao will lead to your nails being torn off next night etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're overestimating how " evil " China is.Yeah , they 're authoritarian , with censorship and " party watches over you " and what not .
It does n't mean that making a snide remark about Mao will lead to your nails being torn off next night etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're overestimating how "evil" China is.Yeah, they're authoritarian, with censorship and "party watches over you" and what not.
It doesn't mean that making a snide remark about Mao will lead to your nails being torn off next night etc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497066</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>iserlohn</author>
	<datestamp>1268759520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Baidu is the market leader with ~60\% marketshare. Bing has only ~6\% of the market, mostly through Yahoo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Baidu is the market leader with ~ 60 \ % marketshare .
Bing has only ~ 6 \ % of the market , mostly through Yahoo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Baidu is the market leader with ~60\% marketshare.
Bing has only ~6\% of the market, mostly through Yahoo.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496582</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498298</id>
	<title>Hard bargaining or NSA involvement?</title>
	<author>slasher69</author>
	<datestamp>1268764080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since no major American company is going to pull out of China right now if they're being responsible to their "shareholders", I see two possibilities:</p><p>1. Google is doing some hard bargaining, and we're seeing part of it.<br>2. The NSA is pulling Google's strings here as part of a security initiative.</p><p>If they stay in China then it's #1, if they actually pull out then it's #2.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since no major American company is going to pull out of China right now if they 're being responsible to their " shareholders " , I see two possibilities : 1 .
Google is doing some hard bargaining , and we 're seeing part of it.2 .
The NSA is pulling Google 's strings here as part of a security initiative.If they stay in China then it 's # 1 , if they actually pull out then it 's # 2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since no major American company is going to pull out of China right now if they're being responsible to their "shareholders", I see two possibilities:1.
Google is doing some hard bargaining, and we're seeing part of it.2.
The NSA is pulling Google's strings here as part of a security initiative.If they stay in China then it's #1, if they actually pull out then it's #2.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498138</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>ndavis</author>
	<datestamp>1268763420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Who cares about China. Seriously.</p><p>"We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.  Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.  If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."</p><p>Yeah.  Who cares about China?
Don't affect us at all!
(rolls eyes)</p></div><p>

Ok I hear this all the time that China owns tons of T Bills and yes they do but they cannot just call us and say they want the money now.  Just like your mortgage company cannot call and say we want to collect the 200,000 you owe us on your mortgage 10 years early.
<br> <br>
The only recourse China has would be to dump the securities on the market which would drop the value and cause the government to raise rates or discount prices when selling Treasuries.  Remember though if China did this the Trillions of Treasuries they own would be worth less and less which could sink them into major financial problems sort of like what happened on Wall Street from having assets that are sinking in value causing more institutions to sell.
<br> <br>
So no China cannot hurt us financially unless they wish to really screw themselves</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; Who cares about China .
Seriously. " We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money .
Furthermore we 've decided it 's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans .
If you do n't have the money , we 'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead. " Yeah .
Who cares about China ?
Do n't affect us at all !
( rolls eyes ) Ok I hear this all the time that China owns tons of T Bills and yes they do but they can not just call us and say they want the money now .
Just like your mortgage company can not call and say we want to collect the 200,000 you owe us on your mortgage 10 years early .
The only recourse China has would be to dump the securities on the market which would drop the value and cause the government to raise rates or discount prices when selling Treasuries .
Remember though if China did this the Trillions of Treasuries they own would be worth less and less which could sink them into major financial problems sort of like what happened on Wall Street from having assets that are sinking in value causing more institutions to sell .
So no China can not hurt us financially unless they wish to really screw themselves</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;Who cares about China.
Seriously."We will no longer be loaning either the US or EU any more money.
Furthermore we've decided it's time to collect our 5 trillion in loans.
If you don't have the money, we'll be happy to take Alaska and Spain as payment instead."Yeah.
Who cares about China?
Don't affect us at all!
(rolls eyes)

Ok I hear this all the time that China owns tons of T Bills and yes they do but they cannot just call us and say they want the money now.
Just like your mortgage company cannot call and say we want to collect the 200,000 you owe us on your mortgage 10 years early.
The only recourse China has would be to dump the securities on the market which would drop the value and cause the government to raise rates or discount prices when selling Treasuries.
Remember though if China did this the Trillions of Treasuries they own would be worth less and less which could sink them into major financial problems sort of like what happened on Wall Street from having assets that are sinking in value causing more institutions to sell.
So no China cannot hurt us financially unless they wish to really screw themselves
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497242</id>
	<title>Re:Duality in Leadership</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1268760120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It is clear that their presence in China was creating harm.</p></div><p>Is it?</p><p>At the very, absolute worst, it was maintaining the status quo, which I believe Google hoped it would be able to gradually change.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is clear that their presence in China was creating harm.Is it ? At the very , absolute worst , it was maintaining the status quo , which I believe Google hoped it would be able to gradually change .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is clear that their presence in China was creating harm.Is it?At the very, absolute worst, it was maintaining the status quo, which I believe Google hoped it would be able to gradually change.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498238</id>
	<title>Enderle Group?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268763960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do all of the analysts employed at the "Enderle Group" go by the name of Rob Enderle?  Does the "group" refuse to employ anybody who isn't called Rob Enderle? Are employees forced to change their name?</p><p>Or, perchance, is this "group" composed of a lone self-aggrandizing dipshit?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do all of the analysts employed at the " Enderle Group " go by the name of Rob Enderle ?
Does the " group " refuse to employ anybody who is n't called Rob Enderle ?
Are employees forced to change their name ? Or , perchance , is this " group " composed of a lone self-aggrandizing dipshit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do all of the analysts employed at the "Enderle Group" go by the name of Rob Enderle?
Does the "group" refuse to employ anybody who isn't called Rob Enderle?
Are employees forced to change their name?Or, perchance, is this "group" composed of a lone self-aggrandizing dipshit?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497252</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268760120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Canary in the coal mine, people.....a different article here on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. pointed out the PRC's aim to build high speed rail to connect the rest of Eurasia to their own country for freight purposes? Let's remember, this is mainland China, a communist dictatorship in name at least, that has an ESTABL<br>ISHED history of starving MILLIONS of its own citizens to death for the purposes of pursuing an ideological point. Unlikely that their government is going to seriously give a rat's keister about what happens to a hodgepodge collection of foreign barbarians whose past governments tried to carve up China economically, and brought such extreme loss of face to what, in their view, must surely have been the most civilized nation on Earth populated by superior examples of humanity...in other words, themselves.</p><p>Institutionalized payback is not pretty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Canary in the coal mine , people.....a different article here on / .
pointed out the PRC 's aim to build high speed rail to connect the rest of Eurasia to their own country for freight purposes ?
Let 's remember , this is mainland China , a communist dictatorship in name at least , that has an ESTABLISHED history of starving MILLIONS of its own citizens to death for the purposes of pursuing an ideological point .
Unlikely that their government is going to seriously give a rat 's keister about what happens to a hodgepodge collection of foreign barbarians whose past governments tried to carve up China economically , and brought such extreme loss of face to what , in their view , must surely have been the most civilized nation on Earth populated by superior examples of humanity...in other words , themselves.Institutionalized payback is not pretty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Canary in the coal mine, people.....a different article here on /.
pointed out the PRC's aim to build high speed rail to connect the rest of Eurasia to their own country for freight purposes?
Let's remember, this is mainland China, a communist dictatorship in name at least, that has an ESTABLISHED history of starving MILLIONS of its own citizens to death for the purposes of pursuing an ideological point.
Unlikely that their government is going to seriously give a rat's keister about what happens to a hodgepodge collection of foreign barbarians whose past governments tried to carve up China economically, and brought such extreme loss of face to what, in their view, must surely have been the most civilized nation on Earth populated by superior examples of humanity...in other words, themselves.Institutionalized payback is not pretty.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31500746</id>
	<title>Rob Enderle's wikipedia entry</title>
	<author>gov\_coder</author>
	<datestamp>1268730960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>From his <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob\_Enderle" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">wiki page</a> [wikipedia.org]:
 <br>
Education:  <br>
 - Orange Coast College -- Associate's Degree in Merchandising <br>
 - CSU Long Beach -- BS in 'Man Power'  <br>
 - PACE U -- certificate in 'Market Analysis' <br>
  <br>
This guy has always seemed to me to be the very essence of F\_ \_ \_ TARD.
 <br>
If I want to listen to the mindless ravings of tards, I'll turn on fox-news.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From his wiki page [ wikipedia.org ] : Education : - Orange Coast College -- Associate 's Degree in Merchandising - CSU Long Beach -- BS in 'Man Power ' - PACE U -- certificate in 'Market Analysis ' This guy has always seemed to me to be the very essence of F \ _ \ _ \ _ TARD .
If I want to listen to the mindless ravings of tards , I 'll turn on fox-news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From his wiki page [wikipedia.org]:
 
Education:  
 - Orange Coast College -- Associate's Degree in Merchandising 
 - CSU Long Beach -- BS in 'Man Power'  
 - PACE U -- certificate in 'Market Analysis' 
  
This guy has always seemed to me to be the very essence of F\_ \_ \_ TARD.
If I want to listen to the mindless ravings of tards, I'll turn on fox-news.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497598</id>
	<title>Re:Well that is good but.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268761380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Would you pay $10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality?</p></div><p>No.</p><p>First, ASUS is a Taiwanese company. I'm not sure if 100\% of their fabs are in Taiwan, but at least most of their products are made in Taiwan. The parts  probably do come out of China though, but it wouldn't be different from anything that came out of a US fab.</p><p>Second, your assumption that the price would increase by $10 is incorrect. If the motherboard was merely assembled in the US, you'd probably see a marginal increase in price, i.e. $20-$50. If the motherboard was completely made in the US (with raw materials mined in the US), you're looking more along the lines of 5-10<i>x</i> the price.</p><p>And would any non-government entity be willing to pay that much for a motherboard, period? No.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you pay $ 10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality ? No.First , ASUS is a Taiwanese company .
I 'm not sure if 100 \ % of their fabs are in Taiwan , but at least most of their products are made in Taiwan .
The parts probably do come out of China though , but it would n't be different from anything that came out of a US fab.Second , your assumption that the price would increase by $ 10 is incorrect .
If the motherboard was merely assembled in the US , you 'd probably see a marginal increase in price , i.e .
$ 20- $ 50. If the motherboard was completely made in the US ( with raw materials mined in the US ) , you 're looking more along the lines of 5-10x the price.And would any non-government entity be willing to pay that much for a motherboard , period ?
No .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you pay $10 more for a Google Motherboard built in Iowa or Idaho over an Asus built in China if it was the same quality?No.First, ASUS is a Taiwanese company.
I'm not sure if 100\% of their fabs are in Taiwan, but at least most of their products are made in Taiwan.
The parts  probably do come out of China though, but it wouldn't be different from anything that came out of a US fab.Second, your assumption that the price would increase by $10 is incorrect.
If the motherboard was merely assembled in the US, you'd probably see a marginal increase in price, i.e.
$20-$50. If the motherboard was completely made in the US (with raw materials mined in the US), you're looking more along the lines of 5-10x the price.And would any non-government entity be willing to pay that much for a motherboard, period?
No.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31498822</id>
	<title>Chinese Hackers</title>
	<author>labradore</author>
	<datestamp>1268766120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the reasons no one has mentioned yet is that Google's core algorithms and trade secrets could be stolen.  Google just can't afford to lose their competitive advantage to industrial espionage.  Having engineers in China is a big risk, as they are exposed to coercion by the government.  Maybe their core search wizards are all located in Mountain View, CA, but having Chinese guys who tweak the algorithm for the Chinese market probably means that at least a few of them know the core technologies pretty well.  Google gives away a lot of technology, but there's no chance that you're going to see them publishing their core algorithms.  Having datacenters and engineering in China might be too much of a security risk as well as a moral risk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the reasons no one has mentioned yet is that Google 's core algorithms and trade secrets could be stolen .
Google just ca n't afford to lose their competitive advantage to industrial espionage .
Having engineers in China is a big risk , as they are exposed to coercion by the government .
Maybe their core search wizards are all located in Mountain View , CA , but having Chinese guys who tweak the algorithm for the Chinese market probably means that at least a few of them know the core technologies pretty well .
Google gives away a lot of technology , but there 's no chance that you 're going to see them publishing their core algorithms .
Having datacenters and engineering in China might be too much of a security risk as well as a moral risk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the reasons no one has mentioned yet is that Google's core algorithms and trade secrets could be stolen.
Google just can't afford to lose their competitive advantage to industrial espionage.
Having engineers in China is a big risk, as they are exposed to coercion by the government.
Maybe their core search wizards are all located in Mountain View, CA, but having Chinese guys who tweak the algorithm for the Chinese market probably means that at least a few of them know the core technologies pretty well.
Google gives away a lot of technology, but there's no chance that you're going to see them publishing their core algorithms.
Having datacenters and engineering in China might be too much of a security risk as well as a moral risk.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497084</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sure Bing will take their place</title>
	<author>cyfer2000</author>
	<datestamp>1268759580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The current top search engine is Baidu. Google's market share of search business in China is less than 30\%.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The current top search engine is Baidu .
Google 's market share of search business in China is less than 30 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The current top search engine is Baidu.
Google's market share of search business in China is less than 30\%.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31496560</id>
	<title>Re:Never should have been there</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268757900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good for them.  We have already blocked all IPs from China on our network.  Nothing in and nothing out the them commies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good for them .
We have already blocked all IPs from China on our network .
Nothing in and nothing out the them commies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good for them.
We have already blocked all IPs from China on our network.
Nothing in and nothing out the them commies.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497024</id>
	<title>Re:Enderle</title>
	<author>introspekt.i</author>
	<datestamp>1268759340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think Chinese leadership is inflexible by western standards.  Rather, I think they're completely pragmatic and utilitarian.  If Google were to make it worth their while, they'd probably be willing to negotiate, however, I don't think Google's willing to go as far as that takes.  "Flexible" is a relative term.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think Chinese leadership is inflexible by western standards .
Rather , I think they 're completely pragmatic and utilitarian .
If Google were to make it worth their while , they 'd probably be willing to negotiate , however , I do n't think Google 's willing to go as far as that takes .
" Flexible " is a relative term .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think Chinese leadership is inflexible by western standards.
Rather, I think they're completely pragmatic and utilitarian.
If Google were to make it worth their while, they'd probably be willing to negotiate, however, I don't think Google's willing to go as far as that takes.
"Flexible" is a relative term.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1447229.31497602</id>
	<title>Re:What is the price of tea in China?</title>
	<author>Sagelinka</author>
	<datestamp>1268761380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't mind that stuff is made in china, not all of it is bad. In fact only 1/8th of stuff is bad and it doesn't matter what country it came from.

I'm all for the development of China but their government needs to go about things differently.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't mind that stuff is made in china , not all of it is bad .
In fact only 1/8th of stuff is bad and it does n't matter what country it came from .
I 'm all for the development of China but their government needs to go about things differently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't mind that stuff is made in china, not all of it is bad.
In fact only 1/8th of stuff is bad and it doesn't matter what country it came from.
I'm all for the development of China but their government needs to go about things differently.</sentencetext>
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