<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_15_1710247</id>
	<title>Color E-Book Displays Coming From E Ink Next Year</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1268674800000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>waderoush writes <i>"E Ink, which makes the monochrome electrophoretic screens used in the Amazon Kindle, the Barnes &amp; Noble Nook, the Sony Reader line, and other e-readers, is gearing up to <a href="http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2010/03/15/new-e-ink-leader-sees-colorful-future-for-company-under-taiwans-prime-view-international/?single\_page=true">supply manufacturers with the first color versions of its displays by early next year</a>, according to an Xconomy interview with T.H. Peng, a vice president with Taiwan's Prime View International, which bought E Ink last year. Peng argues that E Ink has nothing to fear from the e-book apps on the Apple iPad and other devices with color LCDs, which, in his view, produce more eye strain and aren't as suitable for digital reading. Nonetheless, the company says its first color screens in 2011 will have newspaper-quality color, followed within a couple of years by improved versions that can handle magazine-style content."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>waderoush writes " E Ink , which makes the monochrome electrophoretic screens used in the Amazon Kindle , the Barnes &amp; Noble Nook , the Sony Reader line , and other e-readers , is gearing up to supply manufacturers with the first color versions of its displays by early next year , according to an Xconomy interview with T.H .
Peng , a vice president with Taiwan 's Prime View International , which bought E Ink last year .
Peng argues that E Ink has nothing to fear from the e-book apps on the Apple iPad and other devices with color LCDs , which , in his view , produce more eye strain and are n't as suitable for digital reading .
Nonetheless , the company says its first color screens in 2011 will have newspaper-quality color , followed within a couple of years by improved versions that can handle magazine-style content .
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<sentencetext>waderoush writes "E Ink, which makes the monochrome electrophoretic screens used in the Amazon Kindle, the Barnes &amp; Noble Nook, the Sony Reader line, and other e-readers, is gearing up to supply manufacturers with the first color versions of its displays by early next year, according to an Xconomy interview with T.H.
Peng, a vice president with Taiwan's Prime View International, which bought E Ink last year.
Peng argues that E Ink has nothing to fear from the e-book apps on the Apple iPad and other devices with color LCDs, which, in his view, produce more eye strain and aren't as suitable for digital reading.
Nonetheless, the company says its first color screens in 2011 will have newspaper-quality color, followed within a couple of years by improved versions that can handle magazine-style content.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485036</id>
	<title>Slackers!!!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268680740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We want it and we want it NOW. Hopefully a competitor will rise just to spite you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We want it and we want it NOW .
Hopefully a competitor will rise just to spite you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We want it and we want it NOW.
Hopefully a competitor will rise just to spite you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31501258</id>
	<title>Re:Bendable</title>
	<author>calibre-not-output</author>
	<datestamp>1268733240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A "real reader" is a person who can, and does, read. Any narrower definition is elitist, ignorant and superfluous.<br> <br>That said, the reason I (and many others) prefer a book over an eReader, and in many cases prefer an old book to a new one, is the sensation of reading, which goes beyond the words. It has to do with the smell, the texture of the paper, the weight of the book in my hands. Even the sings of occasional wear-and-tear often give the book a sense of personality. I take my Sony eReader with me whenever I travel because it's easier to pack than a ton of books. But apart from the "convenience factor", real printed books are still better in every respect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A " real reader " is a person who can , and does , read .
Any narrower definition is elitist , ignorant and superfluous .
That said , the reason I ( and many others ) prefer a book over an eReader , and in many cases prefer an old book to a new one , is the sensation of reading , which goes beyond the words .
It has to do with the smell , the texture of the paper , the weight of the book in my hands .
Even the sings of occasional wear-and-tear often give the book a sense of personality .
I take my Sony eReader with me whenever I travel because it 's easier to pack than a ton of books .
But apart from the " convenience factor " , real printed books are still better in every respect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A "real reader" is a person who can, and does, read.
Any narrower definition is elitist, ignorant and superfluous.
That said, the reason I (and many others) prefer a book over an eReader, and in many cases prefer an old book to a new one, is the sensation of reading, which goes beyond the words.
It has to do with the smell, the texture of the paper, the weight of the book in my hands.
Even the sings of occasional wear-and-tear often give the book a sense of personality.
I take my Sony eReader with me whenever I travel because it's easier to pack than a ton of books.
But apart from the "convenience factor", real printed books are still better in every respect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31489796</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1268657940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not exactly a secret that reflected light (esp. sunlight) is better for the eyes than directly emitted light. You don't stare at the sun, and you (I hope) don't stare directly at lamps, either; why do you think that staring at what is, effectively, a lamp behind the surface of your monitor for long periods of time is a good idea?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not exactly a secret that reflected light ( esp .
sunlight ) is better for the eyes than directly emitted light .
You do n't stare at the sun , and you ( I hope ) do n't stare directly at lamps , either ; why do you think that staring at what is , effectively , a lamp behind the surface of your monitor for long periods of time is a good idea ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not exactly a secret that reflected light (esp.
sunlight) is better for the eyes than directly emitted light.
You don't stare at the sun, and you (I hope) don't stare directly at lamps, either; why do you think that staring at what is, effectively, a lamp behind the surface of your monitor for long periods of time is a good idea?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31500840</id>
	<title>Re:Another Reason to wait</title>
	<author>Painted</author>
	<datestamp>1268731320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know from your post you've considered this, but how is the iPad not what you're describing?
<br> <br>
Are you referring to general purpose computing, mouse and all?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know from your post you 've considered this , but how is the iPad not what you 're describing ?
Are you referring to general purpose computing , mouse and all ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know from your post you've considered this, but how is the iPad not what you're describing?
Are you referring to general purpose computing, mouse and all?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485102</id>
	<title>Re:I predict in the next version</title>
	<author>Vanderhoth</author>
	<datestamp>1268681040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>with advances on the DRM front be able to actually pass these books onto our children!</p></div><p>Now you're just dreaming!! Don't be so greedy!  jk<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>with advances on the DRM front be able to actually pass these books onto our children ! Now you 're just dreaming ! !
Do n't be so greedy !
jk ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with advances on the DRM front be able to actually pass these books onto our children!Now you're just dreaming!!
Don't be so greedy!
jk ;)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485756</id>
	<title>Hmm, low power digital picture frames.</title>
	<author>Drethon</author>
	<datestamp>1268683620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Low frame rate on those things so power use would be almost negligible.  I wonder if you could almost power something like that with solar panels from the florescent lights in my building (no clue how much power you can capture from those).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Low frame rate on those things so power use would be almost negligible .
I wonder if you could almost power something like that with solar panels from the florescent lights in my building ( no clue how much power you can capture from those ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Low frame rate on those things so power use would be almost negligible.
I wonder if you could almost power something like that with solar panels from the florescent lights in my building (no clue how much power you can capture from those).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484868</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268680140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just read from E-Ink screen to feel the difference. I was skeptical about E-Ink too before having tried it out. It looks almost <i>exactly</i> like the real paper. So, now I can't imagine using LCD for prolonged reading when you can use E-Ink device or (even better!) good old paper book.<br> <br>

By the way, another key advantage of E-Ink is energy consumption: it doesn't use battery when static, and uses quite a small amount of energy to redraw the page. Due to this feature, eBooks can run for weeks or even months on a single charge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just read from E-Ink screen to feel the difference .
I was skeptical about E-Ink too before having tried it out .
It looks almost exactly like the real paper .
So , now I ca n't imagine using LCD for prolonged reading when you can use E-Ink device or ( even better !
) good old paper book .
By the way , another key advantage of E-Ink is energy consumption : it does n't use battery when static , and uses quite a small amount of energy to redraw the page .
Due to this feature , eBooks can run for weeks or even months on a single charge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just read from E-Ink screen to feel the difference.
I was skeptical about E-Ink too before having tried it out.
It looks almost exactly like the real paper.
So, now I can't imagine using LCD for prolonged reading when you can use E-Ink device or (even better!
) good old paper book.
By the way, another key advantage of E-Ink is energy consumption: it doesn't use battery when static, and uses quite a small amount of energy to redraw the page.
Due to this feature, eBooks can run for weeks or even months on a single charge.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485242</id>
	<title>Another Reason to wait</title>
	<author>TrippTDF</author>
	<datestamp>1268681580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is obviously going to be some class of device that is part ereader, part computer and part media center, but, just as the smartphone market too years to take shape, the accepted version of this device is still years away, so don't waste your money on an iPad or Kindle just yet... wait for the market to mature.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is obviously going to be some class of device that is part ereader , part computer and part media center , but , just as the smartphone market too years to take shape , the accepted version of this device is still years away , so do n't waste your money on an iPad or Kindle just yet... wait for the market to mature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is obviously going to be some class of device that is part ereader, part computer and part media center, but, just as the smartphone market too years to take shape, the accepted version of this device is still years away, so don't waste your money on an iPad or Kindle just yet... wait for the market to mature.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31488416</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>bonius\_rex</author>
	<datestamp>1268650260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In my experience, the eyestrain thing seems to be correlated with age.  When I was a younger man, I read all sorts of e-books on my palm pilot with no problem.  That was maybe 10 years ago.  Now that I'm a wizened old geezer (35), I can only read on my droid for maybe half an hour before my eyes fee like they're starting to melt, but I can read on my Kindle for hours and hours with no problem.

The fonts on the Kindle aren't especially good, so I doubt it's font-related.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In my experience , the eyestrain thing seems to be correlated with age .
When I was a younger man , I read all sorts of e-books on my palm pilot with no problem .
That was maybe 10 years ago .
Now that I 'm a wizened old geezer ( 35 ) , I can only read on my droid for maybe half an hour before my eyes fee like they 're starting to melt , but I can read on my Kindle for hours and hours with no problem .
The fonts on the Kindle are n't especially good , so I doubt it 's font-related .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In my experience, the eyestrain thing seems to be correlated with age.
When I was a younger man, I read all sorts of e-books on my palm pilot with no problem.
That was maybe 10 years ago.
Now that I'm a wizened old geezer (35), I can only read on my droid for maybe half an hour before my eyes fee like they're starting to melt, but I can read on my Kindle for hours and hours with no problem.
The fonts on the Kindle aren't especially good, so I doubt it's font-related.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31492456</id>
	<title>Re:Bendable</title>
	<author>Splintax</author>
	<datestamp>1268681940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not really sure why that aspect of a book's behaviour is desirable. I like the fact that my ebook reader isn't 'bendable', because it means I can prop it up while I'm reading in bed without having to actually support its weight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not really sure why that aspect of a book 's behaviour is desirable .
I like the fact that my ebook reader is n't 'bendable ' , because it means I can prop it up while I 'm reading in bed without having to actually support its weight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not really sure why that aspect of a book's behaviour is desirable.
I like the fact that my ebook reader isn't 'bendable', because it means I can prop it up while I'm reading in bed without having to actually support its weight.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484916</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268680260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The joy of e-ink is that there is no refresh rate to keep a single page on the screen, its just a single refresh for every page of your book. The DPI is very high for e-ink displays so it's very easy on the eyes. E-ink displays don't shine light, they only reflect light much like real books. It's completely different than LCD or CRT or any other display that must refresh the screen even when it isn't changing and has to emit light.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The joy of e-ink is that there is no refresh rate to keep a single page on the screen , its just a single refresh for every page of your book .
The DPI is very high for e-ink displays so it 's very easy on the eyes .
E-ink displays do n't shine light , they only reflect light much like real books .
It 's completely different than LCD or CRT or any other display that must refresh the screen even when it is n't changing and has to emit light .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The joy of e-ink is that there is no refresh rate to keep a single page on the screen, its just a single refresh for every page of your book.
The DPI is very high for e-ink displays so it's very easy on the eyes.
E-ink displays don't shine light, they only reflect light much like real books.
It's completely different than LCD or CRT or any other display that must refresh the screen even when it isn't changing and has to emit light.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484654</id>
	<title>I predict in the next version</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268679420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>We'll be able to physically feel and turn the pages of these color books.  Makes notes in the margin and who knows, with advances on the DRM front be able to actually pass these books onto our children!</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 'll be able to physically feel and turn the pages of these color books .
Makes notes in the margin and who knows , with advances on the DRM front be able to actually pass these books onto our children !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We'll be able to physically feel and turn the pages of these color books.
Makes notes in the margin and who knows, with advances on the DRM front be able to actually pass these books onto our children!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485068</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268680860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After an hour?  No.  After 12 hours a day, 5 days a week?  Yes.  If I've been sitting in front of a computer screen for several hours and close my eyes I can feel the muscles unwinding.  It's not something I'm conciously away of until I look away from the screen, but the muscles of and around my eyes are constantly tense when reading off a monitor.</p><p>As for the refresh rate of e-ink, for me it is almost exactly equal to the time it takes my eyes to travel from the bottom to the top of the page.  The only time I notice it is if I need to go back/forward several pages, then the slow refresh is frustrating since you have to wait for a page to display before you can move to the next one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After an hour ?
No. After 12 hours a day , 5 days a week ?
Yes. If I 've been sitting in front of a computer screen for several hours and close my eyes I can feel the muscles unwinding .
It 's not something I 'm conciously away of until I look away from the screen , but the muscles of and around my eyes are constantly tense when reading off a monitor.As for the refresh rate of e-ink , for me it is almost exactly equal to the time it takes my eyes to travel from the bottom to the top of the page .
The only time I notice it is if I need to go back/forward several pages , then the slow refresh is frustrating since you have to wait for a page to display before you can move to the next one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After an hour?
No.  After 12 hours a day, 5 days a week?
Yes.  If I've been sitting in front of a computer screen for several hours and close my eyes I can feel the muscles unwinding.
It's not something I'm conciously away of until I look away from the screen, but the muscles of and around my eyes are constantly tense when reading off a monitor.As for the refresh rate of e-ink, for me it is almost exactly equal to the time it takes my eyes to travel from the bottom to the top of the page.
The only time I notice it is if I need to go back/forward several pages, then the slow refresh is frustrating since you have to wait for a page to display before you can move to the next one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31488108</id>
	<title>Re:Eye strain my hair ass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268648820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait 'till you get older, kid.  You'll be ready to eat your words soon enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait 'till you get older , kid .
You 'll be ready to eat your words soon enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait 'till you get older, kid.
You'll be ready to eat your words soon enough.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31489888</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268658600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you actually tried it?</p><p>I've noticed that people who like to post long screeds about how LCD is no worse than eInk usually have never actually used eInk.</p><p>Personally, I've read extensively on everything from a CRT to a laptop to an old Palm III, and I am willing to pay for a dedicated eInk device because, in my extensive experience, eInk is more comfortable to read on.  If you've done the same and find LCD adequate, that's fine, but if your one of the many people that's never actually used eInk for a minute or two, I'm not sure your opinion on the adequacy of LCD for reading is particularly useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you actually tried it ? I 've noticed that people who like to post long screeds about how LCD is no worse than eInk usually have never actually used eInk.Personally , I 've read extensively on everything from a CRT to a laptop to an old Palm III , and I am willing to pay for a dedicated eInk device because , in my extensive experience , eInk is more comfortable to read on .
If you 've done the same and find LCD adequate , that 's fine , but if your one of the many people that 's never actually used eInk for a minute or two , I 'm not sure your opinion on the adequacy of LCD for reading is particularly useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you actually tried it?I've noticed that people who like to post long screeds about how LCD is no worse than eInk usually have never actually used eInk.Personally, I've read extensively on everything from a CRT to a laptop to an old Palm III, and I am willing to pay for a dedicated eInk device because, in my extensive experience, eInk is more comfortable to read on.
If you've done the same and find LCD adequate, that's fine, but if your one of the many people that's never actually used eInk for a minute or two, I'm not sure your opinion on the adequacy of LCD for reading is particularly useful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31486858</id>
	<title>Reader with textbook will become the mainstream</title>
	<author>perpenso</author>
	<datestamp>1268644020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How many books have colour in them anywhere other than the cover?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Textbooks are unlikely to factor into the mainstream readers, which are optimized for reading novels.</p></div><p>E readers are in their infancy, we can't draw many conclusions from such a small market primarily populated with early adopters.  The public at large has not "voted" yet.  A reader that offers textbooks (elementary, high school and university) would probably become the mainstream reader.  Color is used quite heavily in textbooks and a mono device essentially forsakes this market.

<br>
--<br>
<a href="http://www.perpenso.com/calc/" title="perpenso.com" rel="nofollow">Perpenso Calc</a> [perpenso.com] for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPN</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many books have colour in them anywhere other than the cover ?
... Textbooks are unlikely to factor into the mainstream readers , which are optimized for reading novels.E readers are in their infancy , we ca n't draw many conclusions from such a small market primarily populated with early adopters .
The public at large has not " voted " yet .
A reader that offers textbooks ( elementary , high school and university ) would probably become the mainstream reader .
Color is used quite heavily in textbooks and a mono device essentially forsakes this market .
-- Perpenso Calc [ perpenso.com ] for iPhone and iPod touch , scientific and bill/tip calculator , fractions , complex numbers , RPN</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many books have colour in them anywhere other than the cover?
... Textbooks are unlikely to factor into the mainstream readers, which are optimized for reading novels.E readers are in their infancy, we can't draw many conclusions from such a small market primarily populated with early adopters.
The public at large has not "voted" yet.
A reader that offers textbooks (elementary, high school and university) would probably become the mainstream reader.
Color is used quite heavily in textbooks and a mono device essentially forsakes this market.
--
Perpenso Calc [perpenso.com] for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPN
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485468</id>
	<title>Re:Cool, I'll wait for the magazine quality ones.</title>
	<author>AvitarX</author>
	<datestamp>1268682480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want e-ink digital photo frames.</p><p>Hopefully it will not be long until we can get that in magazine quality.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want e-ink digital photo frames.Hopefully it will not be long until we can get that in magazine quality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want e-ink digital photo frames.Hopefully it will not be long until we can get that in magazine quality.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31495848</id>
	<title>color sucks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268755200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can't read it outdoors in the sunlight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't read it outdoors in the sunlight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't read it outdoors in the sunlight.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31489428</id>
	<title>Re:Cool, I'll wait for the magazine quality ones.</title>
	<author>SimonInOz</author>
	<datestamp>1268655960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought a mono Palm pilot. Later they made colour one. I bought one of those, too.</p><p>But.<br>Here we are years later - the mono one still works. It has amazing battery life.<br>The colour one had horrible battery life and eventually got dumped somewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought a mono Palm pilot .
Later they made colour one .
I bought one of those , too.But.Here we are years later - the mono one still works .
It has amazing battery life.The colour one had horrible battery life and eventually got dumped somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought a mono Palm pilot.
Later they made colour one.
I bought one of those, too.But.Here we are years later - the mono one still works.
It has amazing battery life.The colour one had horrible battery life and eventually got dumped somewhere.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485094</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>digitalhermit</author>
	<datestamp>1268680980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm.. Could be eye strain caused by looking down your nose at the PC??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm.. Could be eye strain caused by looking down your nose at the PC ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm.. Could be eye strain caused by looking down your nose at the PC?
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31489172</id>
	<title>And the new Amiga could too</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1268654400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed. They also have nothing to fear from a device that doesn't even exist yet. The more obvious factor would be netbooks and existing tablets, which have already sold tens of millions, but nonetheless there's still a market for dedicated readers with e-ink displays.</p><p>To be honest, it's sad that it's only because of the Ipad hype that he even needed to make that argument. Before, it was well understood the advantages of e-ink devices, and how an LCD wasn't in the same market. Consider how, on Slashdot, everytime there was an article about a "colour e-reader", there'd be no end of comments asking if it was really an e-reader (good display, long battery life). Yet now we have no end of comments claiming how the Ipad will be a wonderful colour e-reader killer, and giving us special pleading that the advantages of e-ink no longer matter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed .
They also have nothing to fear from a device that does n't even exist yet .
The more obvious factor would be netbooks and existing tablets , which have already sold tens of millions , but nonetheless there 's still a market for dedicated readers with e-ink displays.To be honest , it 's sad that it 's only because of the Ipad hype that he even needed to make that argument .
Before , it was well understood the advantages of e-ink devices , and how an LCD was n't in the same market .
Consider how , on Slashdot , everytime there was an article about a " colour e-reader " , there 'd be no end of comments asking if it was really an e-reader ( good display , long battery life ) .
Yet now we have no end of comments claiming how the Ipad will be a wonderful colour e-reader killer , and giving us special pleading that the advantages of e-ink no longer matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed.
They also have nothing to fear from a device that doesn't even exist yet.
The more obvious factor would be netbooks and existing tablets, which have already sold tens of millions, but nonetheless there's still a market for dedicated readers with e-ink displays.To be honest, it's sad that it's only because of the Ipad hype that he even needed to make that argument.
Before, it was well understood the advantages of e-ink devices, and how an LCD wasn't in the same market.
Consider how, on Slashdot, everytime there was an article about a "colour e-reader", there'd be no end of comments asking if it was really an e-reader (good display, long battery life).
Yet now we have no end of comments claiming how the Ipad will be a wonderful colour e-reader killer, and giving us special pleading that the advantages of e-ink no longer matter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484480</id>
	<title>Re:I've got a better idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268678820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No one makes money on Niche products by making them less expensive. They could find a way to cut a dollar off production costs and they'd still charge you an arm and a leg.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No one makes money on Niche products by making them less expensive .
They could find a way to cut a dollar off production costs and they 'd still charge you an arm and a leg .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one makes money on Niche products by making them less expensive.
They could find a way to cut a dollar off production costs and they'd still charge you an arm and a leg.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31487722</id>
	<title>Agree. e-ink is trying to build a business on FUD.</title>
	<author>guidryp</author>
	<datestamp>1268647500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would like to know what mechanism he attributes to the extra LCD eyestrain to.</p><p>You can just as easily argue that having a fully adjustable back light allows you to reduce eyestrain by always having access to ideal illumination levels.</p><p>FUD</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would like to know what mechanism he attributes to the extra LCD eyestrain to.You can just as easily argue that having a fully adjustable back light allows you to reduce eyestrain by always having access to ideal illumination levels.FUD  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would like to know what mechanism he attributes to the extra LCD eyestrain to.You can just as easily argue that having a fully adjustable back light allows you to reduce eyestrain by always having access to ideal illumination levels.FUD
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484570</id>
	<title>Re:I've got a better idea</title>
	<author>canusaybimmmy</author>
	<datestamp>1268679120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.  I agree very thoroughly</htmltext>
<tokenext>lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo .
I agree very thoroughly</tokentext>
<sentencetext>lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
I agree very thoroughly</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484624</id>
	<title>haha</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268679300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yes I also agree!! hahaha</p><p>http://www.movies2009.info</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yes I also agree ! !
hahahahttp : //www.movies2009.info</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yes I also agree!!
hahahahttp://www.movies2009.info</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485118</id>
	<title>But how does it work?</title>
	<author>d1r3lnd</author>
	<datestamp>1268681100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As I understand, monochrome e-ink displays are a bunch of tiny spheres, with one white hemisphere and one black hemisphere - so how the hell does the color version work? C/W M/W Y/W K/W spheres? What's the resolution going to look like? Sounds like it might be good for reproducing Roy Lichetenstein's oeuvre...

Seriously, how do you have color e-ink and have it remain e-ink?

I'll wait until they explain how it works before I make plans to buy any devices that use it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As I understand , monochrome e-ink displays are a bunch of tiny spheres , with one white hemisphere and one black hemisphere - so how the hell does the color version work ?
C/W M/W Y/W K/W spheres ?
What 's the resolution going to look like ?
Sounds like it might be good for reproducing Roy Lichetenstein 's oeuvre.. . Seriously , how do you have color e-ink and have it remain e-ink ?
I 'll wait until they explain how it works before I make plans to buy any devices that use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As I understand, monochrome e-ink displays are a bunch of tiny spheres, with one white hemisphere and one black hemisphere - so how the hell does the color version work?
C/W M/W Y/W K/W spheres?
What's the resolution going to look like?
Sounds like it might be good for reproducing Roy Lichetenstein's oeuvre...

Seriously, how do you have color e-ink and have it remain e-ink?
I'll wait until they explain how it works before I make plans to buy any devices that use it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31486004</id>
	<title>Re:The actual cost is still more important. but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268684340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lendability is a problem inherent in digital media, though some manufacturers are trying (the Nook, for example). Durability of course increases with each generation, and I see no reason not to expect parity with books relatively soon (which is easier to waterproof?). Exchangability is just lendability without temporal limits. Highlighting digital text is a solved problem, annotating digital text (even with a plastic pencil, where touchscreen exist) is a solved problem, and while you don't get the physical satisfaction of throwing a digital book away, you *can* delete it.<br>
<br>
No, the better reasons are: DRM (especially the ability to remotely delete books), lack of color/limited resolution, and ridiculous prices. Maybe the inability to use them during long power outages, but the battery life on these things is pretty good.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lendability is a problem inherent in digital media , though some manufacturers are trying ( the Nook , for example ) .
Durability of course increases with each generation , and I see no reason not to expect parity with books relatively soon ( which is easier to waterproof ? ) .
Exchangability is just lendability without temporal limits .
Highlighting digital text is a solved problem , annotating digital text ( even with a plastic pencil , where touchscreen exist ) is a solved problem , and while you do n't get the physical satisfaction of throwing a digital book away , you * can * delete it .
No , the better reasons are : DRM ( especially the ability to remotely delete books ) , lack of color/limited resolution , and ridiculous prices .
Maybe the inability to use them during long power outages , but the battery life on these things is pretty good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lendability is a problem inherent in digital media, though some manufacturers are trying (the Nook, for example).
Durability of course increases with each generation, and I see no reason not to expect parity with books relatively soon (which is easier to waterproof?).
Exchangability is just lendability without temporal limits.
Highlighting digital text is a solved problem, annotating digital text (even with a plastic pencil, where touchscreen exist) is a solved problem, and while you don't get the physical satisfaction of throwing a digital book away, you *can* delete it.
No, the better reasons are: DRM (especially the ability to remotely delete books), lack of color/limited resolution, and ridiculous prices.
Maybe the inability to use them during long power outages, but the battery life on these things is pretty good.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485812</id>
	<title>Why colour?</title>
	<author>Rix</author>
	<datestamp>1268683800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many books have colour in them anywhere other than the cover? I'm not going to pay a premium for that, so monochrome readers will continue to dominate until there's negligible price difference.</p><p>Textbooks are unlikely to factor into the mainstream readers, which are optimized for reading novels.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many books have colour in them anywhere other than the cover ?
I 'm not going to pay a premium for that , so monochrome readers will continue to dominate until there 's negligible price difference.Textbooks are unlikely to factor into the mainstream readers , which are optimized for reading novels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many books have colour in them anywhere other than the cover?
I'm not going to pay a premium for that, so monochrome readers will continue to dominate until there's negligible price difference.Textbooks are unlikely to factor into the mainstream readers, which are optimized for reading novels.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485734</id>
	<title>Re:I've got a better idea</title>
	<author>IronChef</author>
	<datestamp>1268683500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The new slightly smaller Sony reader is only $200. While that isn't so cheap that forgetting it on the bus would be painless, it's not ridiculously expensive either.</p><p>IMHO, YMMV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The new slightly smaller Sony reader is only $ 200 .
While that is n't so cheap that forgetting it on the bus would be painless , it 's not ridiculously expensive either.IMHO , YMMV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new slightly smaller Sony reader is only $200.
While that isn't so cheap that forgetting it on the bus would be painless, it's not ridiculously expensive either.IMHO, YMMV.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484508</id>
	<title>Re:Bendable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268678880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they make an e-ink screen that smells like an old book, I'll buy it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they make an e-ink screen that smells like an old book , I 'll buy it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they make an e-ink screen that smells like an old book, I'll buy it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485748</id>
	<title>Re:Bendable</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1268683560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A few years ago I saw a demonstration by Philips on TV of a bendable e-ink screen. I think bendability is more important than colour. If the screen is bendable it can behave more like a real book.</p></div><p>I'm not sure how much I care about the ability to bend my books.</p><p>Yes, paper bends...  As I turn a page it bends...  But bendability isn't really something fundamental to the function of a book.  A book's primary purpose is the display of information.</p><p>I mean...  Is a magazine somehow better than a 500 page novel just because it's more bendable?</p><p>Are hardcover books somehow inferior to paperbacks, simply because they're less bendable?</p><p>I have a nook, and I read plenty of books on it.  And I have never, ever found myself thinking <i>you know what would make this ereader perfect?  If I could just <b>bend</b> it...</i></p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A few years ago I saw a demonstration by Philips on TV of a bendable e-ink screen .
I think bendability is more important than colour .
If the screen is bendable it can behave more like a real book.I 'm not sure how much I care about the ability to bend my books.Yes , paper bends... As I turn a page it bends... But bendability is n't really something fundamental to the function of a book .
A book 's primary purpose is the display of information.I mean... Is a magazine somehow better than a 500 page novel just because it 's more bendable ? Are hardcover books somehow inferior to paperbacks , simply because they 're less bendable ? I have a nook , and I read plenty of books on it .
And I have never , ever found myself thinking you know what would make this ereader perfect ?
If I could just bend it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few years ago I saw a demonstration by Philips on TV of a bendable e-ink screen.
I think bendability is more important than colour.
If the screen is bendable it can behave more like a real book.I'm not sure how much I care about the ability to bend my books.Yes, paper bends...  As I turn a page it bends...  But bendability isn't really something fundamental to the function of a book.
A book's primary purpose is the display of information.I mean...  Is a magazine somehow better than a 500 page novel just because it's more bendable?Are hardcover books somehow inferior to paperbacks, simply because they're less bendable?I have a nook, and I read plenty of books on it.
And I have never, ever found myself thinking you know what would make this ereader perfect?
If I could just bend it...
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31500776</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Painted</author>
	<datestamp>1268731080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have, I've used both quite a bit, and I'll take LCD and all it can do hands down over eInk. It's basically a general purpose screen that can* be used, quite successfully, as a text reader in virtually any environment except direct sunlight versus a single purpose screen that works ok in most light but does excel in direct sunlight.
<br> <br>
Hence, for me, an iPad with LCD is 30x the machine a Kindle is, since the iPad can do many, many things in almost any environment and the Kindle can really, do just one- and it works poorly in low light. I will admit that I am far more likely to want to read in an environment where there's not enough light than one with too much...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have , I 've used both quite a bit , and I 'll take LCD and all it can do hands down over eInk .
It 's basically a general purpose screen that can * be used , quite successfully , as a text reader in virtually any environment except direct sunlight versus a single purpose screen that works ok in most light but does excel in direct sunlight .
Hence , for me , an iPad with LCD is 30x the machine a Kindle is , since the iPad can do many , many things in almost any environment and the Kindle can really , do just one- and it works poorly in low light .
I will admit that I am far more likely to want to read in an environment where there 's not enough light than one with too much.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have, I've used both quite a bit, and I'll take LCD and all it can do hands down over eInk.
It's basically a general purpose screen that can* be used, quite successfully, as a text reader in virtually any environment except direct sunlight versus a single purpose screen that works ok in most light but does excel in direct sunlight.
Hence, for me, an iPad with LCD is 30x the machine a Kindle is, since the iPad can do many, many things in almost any environment and the Kindle can really, do just one- and it works poorly in low light.
I will admit that I am far more likely to want to read in an environment where there's not enough light than one with too much...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485308</id>
	<title>Eye strain my hair ass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268681820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Peng argues that E Ink has nothing to fear from the e-book apps on the Apple iPad and other devices with color LCDs, which, in his view, produce more eye strain and aren't as suitable for digital reading. "<br> <br>
LCD's aren't suitable for digital reading?  You mean the LCD's I read off of 10 hours a day at work are completely unacceptable for reading now?  I have a Kindle which uses the wonderful to read e-ink display and the low contrast, washed out grey text on lighter grey background, with no backlighting, slow page draws, and previous page ghosting, is NOT a superior reading experience to a decent LCD.  Not even close.  To claim otherwise is just bald faced LYING.
<br> <br>
I do a LOT of ebook reading on my iphone, and on my kindle, so I actually do know the difference.  e-ink displays excel in battery life and that is the ONLY category they are better than modern LCD</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Peng argues that E Ink has nothing to fear from the e-book apps on the Apple iPad and other devices with color LCDs , which , in his view , produce more eye strain and are n't as suitable for digital reading .
" LCD 's are n't suitable for digital reading ?
You mean the LCD 's I read off of 10 hours a day at work are completely unacceptable for reading now ?
I have a Kindle which uses the wonderful to read e-ink display and the low contrast , washed out grey text on lighter grey background , with no backlighting , slow page draws , and previous page ghosting , is NOT a superior reading experience to a decent LCD .
Not even close .
To claim otherwise is just bald faced LYING .
I do a LOT of ebook reading on my iphone , and on my kindle , so I actually do know the difference .
e-ink displays excel in battery life and that is the ONLY category they are better than modern LCD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Peng argues that E Ink has nothing to fear from the e-book apps on the Apple iPad and other devices with color LCDs, which, in his view, produce more eye strain and aren't as suitable for digital reading.
" 
LCD's aren't suitable for digital reading?
You mean the LCD's I read off of 10 hours a day at work are completely unacceptable for reading now?
I have a Kindle which uses the wonderful to read e-ink display and the low contrast, washed out grey text on lighter grey background, with no backlighting, slow page draws, and previous page ghosting, is NOT a superior reading experience to a decent LCD.
Not even close.
To claim otherwise is just bald faced LYING.
I do a LOT of ebook reading on my iphone, and on my kindle, so I actually do know the difference.
e-ink displays excel in battery life and that is the ONLY category they are better than modern LCD</sentencetext>
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	<title>When light is equal, so is strain</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1268645700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Unless you're reading on the beach in the sun.</i></p><p>Then it depends on how good your display is.  I've used a laptop outdoors before.  This is a weakness of LCD's to be sure, but I prefer to read in the shade anyway and that is usually good enough to make a bright LCD useful.</p><p><i>Or in low light situations where a glowing screen can be a strain.</i></p><p>And in that situation, how exactly are you going be reading the somewhat grayish Kindle screen?</p><p>Here's my beef with claims that LCD's are hard to read - it's because people are using them in lighting they would not read a real book in.  As soon as you equalize the ambient light to the same levels you would for a book or eInk screen, you pretty much have no eyestrain from LCD's either.  But, at least you have the option to read in the dark if you need to...</p><p><i>What the world really needs is a display that is both e-ink and LCD with users given the option to choose the display type based upon content.</i></p><p>A company in India has developed that screen, pretty clever really.  It's monochrome with the backlight off but you can turn it on for color.  Not sure how it matches up with traditional LCD screens but it would seem to whomp these color eInk displays.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless you 're reading on the beach in the sun.Then it depends on how good your display is .
I 've used a laptop outdoors before .
This is a weakness of LCD 's to be sure , but I prefer to read in the shade anyway and that is usually good enough to make a bright LCD useful.Or in low light situations where a glowing screen can be a strain.And in that situation , how exactly are you going be reading the somewhat grayish Kindle screen ? Here 's my beef with claims that LCD 's are hard to read - it 's because people are using them in lighting they would not read a real book in .
As soon as you equalize the ambient light to the same levels you would for a book or eInk screen , you pretty much have no eyestrain from LCD 's either .
But , at least you have the option to read in the dark if you need to...What the world really needs is a display that is both e-ink and LCD with users given the option to choose the display type based upon content.A company in India has developed that screen , pretty clever really .
It 's monochrome with the backlight off but you can turn it on for color .
Not sure how it matches up with traditional LCD screens but it would seem to whomp these color eInk displays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless you're reading on the beach in the sun.Then it depends on how good your display is.
I've used a laptop outdoors before.
This is a weakness of LCD's to be sure, but I prefer to read in the shade anyway and that is usually good enough to make a bright LCD useful.Or in low light situations where a glowing screen can be a strain.And in that situation, how exactly are you going be reading the somewhat grayish Kindle screen?Here's my beef with claims that LCD's are hard to read - it's because people are using them in lighting they would not read a real book in.
As soon as you equalize the ambient light to the same levels you would for a book or eInk screen, you pretty much have no eyestrain from LCD's either.
But, at least you have the option to read in the dark if you need to...What the world really needs is a display that is both e-ink and LCD with users given the option to choose the display type based upon content.A company in India has developed that screen, pretty clever really.
It's monochrome with the backlight off but you can turn it on for color.
Not sure how it matches up with traditional LCD screens but it would seem to whomp these color eInk displays.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485366</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268682060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just read from E-Ink screen to feel the difference. I was skeptical about E-Ink too before having tried it out. It looks almost <i>exactly</i> like the real paper. So, now I can't imagine using LCD for prolonged reading when you can use E-Ink device or (even better!) good old paper book.</p> </div><p>You make a good point about trying an E-Ink screen for himself. But he did say:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I actually *prefer* to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper...</p> </div><p>So if E-Ink "looks almost exactly like real paper" and  he "actually prefers to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper" I don't see how he is going to "get it" if he tries an E-Ink screen.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Just read from E-Ink screen to feel the difference .
I was skeptical about E-Ink too before having tried it out .
It looks almost exactly like the real paper .
So , now I ca n't imagine using LCD for prolonged reading when you can use E-Ink device or ( even better !
) good old paper book .
You make a good point about trying an E-Ink screen for himself .
But he did say : I actually * prefer * to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper... So if E-Ink " looks almost exactly like real paper " and he " actually prefers to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper " I do n't see how he is going to " get it " if he tries an E-Ink screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just read from E-Ink screen to feel the difference.
I was skeptical about E-Ink too before having tried it out.
It looks almost exactly like the real paper.
So, now I can't imagine using LCD for prolonged reading when you can use E-Ink device or (even better!
) good old paper book.
You make a good point about trying an E-Ink screen for himself.
But he did say:I actually *prefer* to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper... So if E-Ink "looks almost exactly like real paper" and  he "actually prefers to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper" I don't see how he is going to "get it" if he tries an E-Ink screen.
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	<title>I think it will be a while</title>
	<author>sg3000</author>
	<datestamp>1268644260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yeah, I bought a palm pilot and then one month later they announced the color version.  I'm not getting bit by that again.  I'll just wait for the color this time.</p></div><p>I think it will be a while for a color Kindle. Admittedly I skimmed the article, but they sound vague about when E-Ink will have a color version available. On one hand, they're saying the color version screen will be available at the end of the year, but then they say:</p><blockquote><div><p>X: What can you tell me about your technical ideas for creating better color displays? Is adding color simply a matter of tweaking the company&rsquo;s existing microcapsule technology, or do you have to go back to the drawing board and approach it in an entirely new way?</p><p>SP: Even if we slightly describe it, we will probably reveal stuff that we are not ready to talk about. There is more than one approach, and exactly which one we will choose in the future, we don&rsquo;t know.</p></div></blockquote><p>So they haven't picked an approach yet? That doesn't sound like they'll have something ready in the next nine months.</p><p>The question of when they would have color technology has been bandied about by E-Ink since their inception. I read back in 2005 that Intel Capital invested in E-Ink with the hopes of getting a color-capable version and customers have always been asking for it. A color version is something they've been struggling to bring to market for a while. If they're still trying to figure out approaches, they could be a minimum of 1 years away for a prototype, and even longer for a color Kindle available in volume.</p><p>So, in short, if you want a Kindle, don't wait for the color version. Or just buy an iPad<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Yeah , I bought a palm pilot and then one month later they announced the color version .
I 'm not getting bit by that again .
I 'll just wait for the color this time.I think it will be a while for a color Kindle .
Admittedly I skimmed the article , but they sound vague about when E-Ink will have a color version available .
On one hand , they 're saying the color version screen will be available at the end of the year , but then they say : X : What can you tell me about your technical ideas for creating better color displays ?
Is adding color simply a matter of tweaking the company    s existing microcapsule technology , or do you have to go back to the drawing board and approach it in an entirely new way ? SP : Even if we slightly describe it , we will probably reveal stuff that we are not ready to talk about .
There is more than one approach , and exactly which one we will choose in the future , we don    t know.So they have n't picked an approach yet ?
That does n't sound like they 'll have something ready in the next nine months.The question of when they would have color technology has been bandied about by E-Ink since their inception .
I read back in 2005 that Intel Capital invested in E-Ink with the hopes of getting a color-capable version and customers have always been asking for it .
A color version is something they 've been struggling to bring to market for a while .
If they 're still trying to figure out approaches , they could be a minimum of 1 years away for a prototype , and even longer for a color Kindle available in volume.So , in short , if you want a Kindle , do n't wait for the color version .
Or just buy an iPad : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I bought a palm pilot and then one month later they announced the color version.
I'm not getting bit by that again.
I'll just wait for the color this time.I think it will be a while for a color Kindle.
Admittedly I skimmed the article, but they sound vague about when E-Ink will have a color version available.
On one hand, they're saying the color version screen will be available at the end of the year, but then they say:X: What can you tell me about your technical ideas for creating better color displays?
Is adding color simply a matter of tweaking the company’s existing microcapsule technology, or do you have to go back to the drawing board and approach it in an entirely new way?SP: Even if we slightly describe it, we will probably reveal stuff that we are not ready to talk about.
There is more than one approach, and exactly which one we will choose in the future, we don’t know.So they haven't picked an approach yet?
That doesn't sound like they'll have something ready in the next nine months.The question of when they would have color technology has been bandied about by E-Ink since their inception.
I read back in 2005 that Intel Capital invested in E-Ink with the hopes of getting a color-capable version and customers have always been asking for it.
A color version is something they've been struggling to bring to market for a while.
If they're still trying to figure out approaches, they could be a minimum of 1 years away for a prototype, and even longer for a color Kindle available in volume.So, in short, if you want a Kindle, don't wait for the color version.
Or just buy an iPad :-)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31489194</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268654460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>After an hour? No. After 12 hours a day, 5 days a week? Yes. If I've been sitting in front of a computer screen for several hours and close my eyes I can feel the muscles unwinding. It's not something I'm conciously away of until I look away from the screen, but the muscles of and around my eyes are constantly tense when reading off a monitor.</p></div><p>Visit an eye doctor / optometrist please.  Seriously.  People with healthy eyes don't have that problem.</p></div><p>It's called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye\_strain" title="wikipedia.org">eye strain</a> [wikipedia.org] and it's a real thing.  When you focus on relatively small and close things, like text, the muscles around your eyes tighten.  Any muscle, when worked for long periods of time, tires out.  This doesn't mean you've got some horrible disease.  It isn't a sign of impending blindness, or glaucoma, or a cataract.  It's just muscle fatigue.</p><p>Sure, yes, random problems with your eyes can be indicative of something bigger...  But if you spend all day long helping your friends move and wake up the next morning to find that your muscles ache it probably isn't a symptom of some horrible disease - it's just muscle fatigue.  Nothing more, nothing less.</p></div>
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<tokenext>After an hour ?
No. After 12 hours a day , 5 days a week ?
Yes. If I 've been sitting in front of a computer screen for several hours and close my eyes I can feel the muscles unwinding .
It 's not something I 'm conciously away of until I look away from the screen , but the muscles of and around my eyes are constantly tense when reading off a monitor.Visit an eye doctor / optometrist please .
Seriously. People with healthy eyes do n't have that problem.It 's called eye strain [ wikipedia.org ] and it 's a real thing .
When you focus on relatively small and close things , like text , the muscles around your eyes tighten .
Any muscle , when worked for long periods of time , tires out .
This does n't mean you 've got some horrible disease .
It is n't a sign of impending blindness , or glaucoma , or a cataract .
It 's just muscle fatigue.Sure , yes , random problems with your eyes can be indicative of something bigger... But if you spend all day long helping your friends move and wake up the next morning to find that your muscles ache it probably is n't a symptom of some horrible disease - it 's just muscle fatigue .
Nothing more , nothing less .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After an hour?
No. After 12 hours a day, 5 days a week?
Yes. If I've been sitting in front of a computer screen for several hours and close my eyes I can feel the muscles unwinding.
It's not something I'm conciously away of until I look away from the screen, but the muscles of and around my eyes are constantly tense when reading off a monitor.Visit an eye doctor / optometrist please.
Seriously.  People with healthy eyes don't have that problem.It's called eye strain [wikipedia.org] and it's a real thing.
When you focus on relatively small and close things, like text, the muscles around your eyes tighten.
Any muscle, when worked for long periods of time, tires out.
This doesn't mean you've got some horrible disease.
It isn't a sign of impending blindness, or glaucoma, or a cataract.
It's just muscle fatigue.Sure, yes, random problems with your eyes can be indicative of something bigger...  But if you spend all day long helping your friends move and wake up the next morning to find that your muscles ache it probably isn't a symptom of some horrible disease - it's just muscle fatigue.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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	<title>optimize for speed first, please</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268682720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>first try to optimize them for speed please... i want to be able to *scroll* text... and not wait between 0.5 and 1 second on every page flip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>first try to optimize them for speed please... i want to be able to * scroll * text... and not wait between 0.5 and 1 second on every page flip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first try to optimize them for speed please... i want to be able to *scroll* text... and not wait between 0.5 and 1 second on every page flip.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484750</id>
	<title>Comics</title>
	<author>Kenshin</author>
	<datestamp>1268679660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is now the ideal platform for comics. If content is moved to this format, you won't have to deal with horrible collectors if you want to read back issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is now the ideal platform for comics .
If content is moved to this format , you wo n't have to deal with horrible collectors if you want to read back issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is now the ideal platform for comics.
If content is moved to this format, you won't have to deal with horrible collectors if you want to read back issues.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485180</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>CastrTroy</author>
	<datestamp>1268681400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I a programmer, so naturally, I spend all day looking at the computer. My eyes don't get tired looking at an LCD all day long.  I really don't get it either.  I've ready plenty of books on my laptop.  No problems there either.  Oh, and I use a PC, so I don't think it's the font thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I a programmer , so naturally , I spend all day looking at the computer .
My eyes do n't get tired looking at an LCD all day long .
I really do n't get it either .
I 've ready plenty of books on my laptop .
No problems there either .
Oh , and I use a PC , so I do n't think it 's the font thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I a programmer, so naturally, I spend all day looking at the computer.
My eyes don't get tired looking at an LCD all day long.
I really don't get it either.
I've ready plenty of books on my laptop.
No problems there either.
Oh, and I use a PC, so I don't think it's the font thing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31489754</id>
	<title>Re:I've got a better idea</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1268657700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How about you first find a better process for making monochrome e-ink displays so the devices that use them aren't ridiculously priced?</p></div><p>The reason why devices are ridiculously priced is because E Ink holds a patent on those screens, and there is only a very limited number of factories that have license to manufacture them (all owned by the same company that owns E Ink, except for one owned by IREX). So, in effect, there is a monopoly artificially maintaining high prices.</p></div>
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<tokenext>How about you first find a better process for making monochrome e-ink displays so the devices that use them are n't ridiculously priced ? The reason why devices are ridiculously priced is because E Ink holds a patent on those screens , and there is only a very limited number of factories that have license to manufacture them ( all owned by the same company that owns E Ink , except for one owned by IREX ) .
So , in effect , there is a monopoly artificially maintaining high prices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about you first find a better process for making monochrome e-ink displays so the devices that use them aren't ridiculously priced?The reason why devices are ridiculously priced is because E Ink holds a patent on those screens, and there is only a very limited number of factories that have license to manufacture them (all owned by the same company that owns E Ink, except for one owned by IREX).
So, in effect, there is a monopoly artificially maintaining high prices.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485766</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268683680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>By the way, another key advantage of E-Ink is energy consumption: it doesn't use battery when static, and uses quite a small amount of energy to redraw the page. Due to this feature, eBooks can run for weeks or even months on a single charge.</p></div><p>This technology would be perfect for digital picture frames. Anybody aware of any e-ink based picture frames?</p></div>
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<tokenext>By the way , another key advantage of E-Ink is energy consumption : it does n't use battery when static , and uses quite a small amount of energy to redraw the page .
Due to this feature , eBooks can run for weeks or even months on a single charge.This technology would be perfect for digital picture frames .
Anybody aware of any e-ink based picture frames ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By the way, another key advantage of E-Ink is energy consumption: it doesn't use battery when static, and uses quite a small amount of energy to redraw the page.
Due to this feature, eBooks can run for weeks or even months on a single charge.This technology would be perfect for digital picture frames.
Anybody aware of any e-ink based picture frames?
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	<title>Cool, I'll wait for the magazine quality ones.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268678520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, I bought a palm pilot and then one month later they announced the color version.  I'm not getting bit by that again.  I'll just wait for the color this time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I bought a palm pilot and then one month later they announced the color version .
I 'm not getting bit by that again .
I 'll just wait for the color this time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I bought a palm pilot and then one month later they announced the color version.
I'm not getting bit by that again.
I'll just wait for the color this time.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>blitziod</author>
	<datestamp>1268676000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>e-ink reminds me more of a REALLY hi res etch a sketch than any other kind of display.</htmltext>
<tokenext>e-ink reminds me more of a REALLY hi res etch a sketch than any other kind of display .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>e-ink reminds me more of a REALLY hi res etch a sketch than any other kind of display.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484426</id>
	<title>I've got a better idea</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1268678640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about you first find a better process for making monochrome e-ink displays so the devices that use them aren't ridiculously priced?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about you first find a better process for making monochrome e-ink displays so the devices that use them are n't ridiculously priced ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about you first find a better process for making monochrome e-ink displays so the devices that use them aren't ridiculously priced?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Bendable</title>
	<author>Sir\_Lewk</author>
	<datestamp>1268680260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Buy ebook<br>2) Cover it with nutmeg<br>3) ???<br>4) Sell it to calibre-not-output<br>5) PROFIT!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Buy ebook2 ) Cover it with nutmeg3 ) ? ?
? 4 ) Sell it to calibre-not-output5 ) PROFIT ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Buy ebook2) Cover it with nutmeg3) ??
?4) Sell it to calibre-not-output5) PROFIT!!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485228</id>
	<title>Re:Comics</title>
	<author>Vanderhoth</author>
	<datestamp>1268681580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I doubt you'd ever see comics (DC and Marvel style) move to a digital format. Part of their appeal and value is that over time only limited copies survive. The chance to be the owner of the fist superman for example would loose its value if it was a digital version that can be infinity copied. I completely understand where you're coming from, I believe comics are written to be read and for someone to buy and original copy, seal it up and lock it away where no one can ever see it again is a real crime in my mind.</p><p>I think I'll create a comic about a super hero that goes around "rescuing" comics from evil collectors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt you 'd ever see comics ( DC and Marvel style ) move to a digital format .
Part of their appeal and value is that over time only limited copies survive .
The chance to be the owner of the fist superman for example would loose its value if it was a digital version that can be infinity copied .
I completely understand where you 're coming from , I believe comics are written to be read and for someone to buy and original copy , seal it up and lock it away where no one can ever see it again is a real crime in my mind.I think I 'll create a comic about a super hero that goes around " rescuing " comics from evil collectors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt you'd ever see comics (DC and Marvel style) move to a digital format.
Part of their appeal and value is that over time only limited copies survive.
The chance to be the owner of the fist superman for example would loose its value if it was a digital version that can be infinity copied.
I completely understand where you're coming from, I believe comics are written to be read and for someone to buy and original copy, seal it up and lock it away where no one can ever see it again is a real crime in my mind.I think I'll create a comic about a super hero that goes around "rescuing" comics from evil collectors.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What market for this?</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1268752380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Normal mass market books are plain black and white, so color is only necessary if you have some speciality book with pictures. So, you're mostly looking at textbooks, comic books, and magazines.</p></div><p>That's pretty much the story. Don't forget picture books, too; there are plenty of books which are just full of pictures. If the display were scaled up a bit, I believe you could sell some of the smaller ones in this format quite successfully.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Normal mass market books are plain black and white , so color is only necessary if you have some speciality book with pictures .
So , you 're mostly looking at textbooks , comic books , and magazines.That 's pretty much the story .
Do n't forget picture books , too ; there are plenty of books which are just full of pictures .
If the display were scaled up a bit , I believe you could sell some of the smaller ones in this format quite successfully .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Normal mass market books are plain black and white, so color is only necessary if you have some speciality book with pictures.
So, you're mostly looking at textbooks, comic books, and magazines.That's pretty much the story.
Don't forget picture books, too; there are plenty of books which are just full of pictures.
If the display were scaled up a bit, I believe you could sell some of the smaller ones in this format quite successfully.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485130</id>
	<title>Re:Why improve mono, just replace with color ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268681160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why? Mono is probably a dead end technology.  It may be better to get to color as quickly as possible and then concentrate on process improvements.  A color Kindle would be a much better commercial product.  It is difficult to imagine textbooks moving to electronic media without color.</p></div><p>I'm sure black text on white background will look so much better on color screen!<br>Really now, you forget what *ebook* readers are meant for.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
Mono is probably a dead end technology .
It may be better to get to color as quickly as possible and then concentrate on process improvements .
A color Kindle would be a much better commercial product .
It is difficult to imagine textbooks moving to electronic media without color.I 'm sure black text on white background will look so much better on color screen ! Really now , you forget what * ebook * readers are meant for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
Mono is probably a dead end technology.
It may be better to get to color as quickly as possible and then concentrate on process improvements.
A color Kindle would be a much better commercial product.
It is difficult to imagine textbooks moving to electronic media without color.I'm sure black text on white background will look so much better on color screen!Really now, you forget what *ebook* readers are meant for.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484888</id>
	<title>Why improve mono, just replace with color ...</title>
	<author>perpenso</author>
	<datestamp>1268680140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How about you first find a better process for making monochrome e-ink displays so the devices that use them aren't ridiculously priced?</p></div><p>

Why?  Mono is probably a dead end technology.  It may be better to get to color as quickly as possible and then concentrate on process improvements.  A color Kindle would be a much better commercial product.  It is difficult to imagine textbooks moving to electronic media without color.  Regarding the possibility of reduced eye strain with mono, perhaps a reader app on a color device could choose to only show black and white for pure text content.<br> <br>

--<br>
<a href="http://www.perpenso.com/calc/" title="perpenso.com" rel="nofollow">Perpenso Calc</a> [perpenso.com] for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPN</p></div>
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<tokenext>How about you first find a better process for making monochrome e-ink displays so the devices that use them are n't ridiculously priced ?
Why ? Mono is probably a dead end technology .
It may be better to get to color as quickly as possible and then concentrate on process improvements .
A color Kindle would be a much better commercial product .
It is difficult to imagine textbooks moving to electronic media without color .
Regarding the possibility of reduced eye strain with mono , perhaps a reader app on a color device could choose to only show black and white for pure text content .
-- Perpenso Calc [ perpenso.com ] for iPhone and iPod touch , scientific and bill/tip calculator , fractions , complex numbers , RPN</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about you first find a better process for making monochrome e-ink displays so the devices that use them aren't ridiculously priced?
Why?  Mono is probably a dead end technology.
It may be better to get to color as quickly as possible and then concentrate on process improvements.
A color Kindle would be a much better commercial product.
It is difficult to imagine textbooks moving to electronic media without color.
Regarding the possibility of reduced eye strain with mono, perhaps a reader app on a color device could choose to only show black and white for pure text content.
--
Perpenso Calc [perpenso.com] for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPN
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485884</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1268683980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I was skeptical about E-Ink too before having tried it out. It looks almost exactly like the real paper.</p></div><p>Yeah, if everything you print on real paper is dull dark gray on dull light gray.</p><p>Been there, tried it, couldn't stand the ultra low contrast, the flickering screen, the 1 Hz (or so) refresh rate.  Also the lack of a backlight really sucked.</p><p>Kind of like going back to a 1992 laptop after you've been using a 2010 laptop for awhile.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was skeptical about E-Ink too before having tried it out .
It looks almost exactly like the real paper.Yeah , if everything you print on real paper is dull dark gray on dull light gray.Been there , tried it , could n't stand the ultra low contrast , the flickering screen , the 1 Hz ( or so ) refresh rate .
Also the lack of a backlight really sucked.Kind of like going back to a 1992 laptop after you 've been using a 2010 laptop for awhile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was skeptical about E-Ink too before having tried it out.
It looks almost exactly like the real paper.Yeah, if everything you print on real paper is dull dark gray on dull light gray.Been there, tried it, couldn't stand the ultra low contrast, the flickering screen, the 1 Hz (or so) refresh rate.
Also the lack of a backlight really sucked.Kind of like going back to a 1992 laptop after you've been using a 2010 laptop for awhile.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484890</id>
	<title>Comics? C'Mon!  This is Porn's Entre to the Market</title>
	<author>RobotRunAmok</author>
	<datestamp>1268680140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the VHS player forward, the establishment of a new medium relied upon how well it handled pornography:  what it looked like on the device, what was available for it, how anonymous the purchase/distribution could be.</p><p>Adoption of E-books like the Kindle has been slow to catch fire NOT because people could not read Batman on them...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the VHS player forward , the establishment of a new medium relied upon how well it handled pornography : what it looked like on the device , what was available for it , how anonymous the purchase/distribution could be.Adoption of E-books like the Kindle has been slow to catch fire NOT because people could not read Batman on them.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the VHS player forward, the establishment of a new medium relied upon how well it handled pornography:  what it looked like on the device, what was available for it, how anonymous the purchase/distribution could be.Adoption of E-books like the Kindle has been slow to catch fire NOT because people could not read Batman on them...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31490846</id>
	<title>Re:Another Reason to wait</title>
	<author>Stray7Xi</author>
	<datestamp>1268664420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're waiting for a new technology around the corner, then you'll never buy any technology.  I got one a few months ago and have already read over a dozen books and I read blogs on it.  I could have waited, but then I wouldn't have gotten the enjoyment out of using it.</p><p>That's like telling someone still using a 4 year old phone that they should wait to buy an iphone because a new version is coming out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're waiting for a new technology around the corner , then you 'll never buy any technology .
I got one a few months ago and have already read over a dozen books and I read blogs on it .
I could have waited , but then I would n't have gotten the enjoyment out of using it.That 's like telling someone still using a 4 year old phone that they should wait to buy an iphone because a new version is coming out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're waiting for a new technology around the corner, then you'll never buy any technology.
I got one a few months ago and have already read over a dozen books and I read blogs on it.
I could have waited, but then I wouldn't have gotten the enjoyment out of using it.That's like telling someone still using a 4 year old phone that they should wait to buy an iphone because a new version is coming out.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Cool, I'll wait for the magazine quality ones.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268647560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah same for me. I bought a black and white tv back in the days and after they announced color tv.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah same for me .
I bought a black and white tv back in the days and after they announced color tv .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah same for me.
I bought a black and white tv back in the days and after they announced color tv.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31492242</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>mark-t</author>
	<datestamp>1268678640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you don't get eye strain from monitors, that's great.
<p>
The problem a lot of people have with monitors, however, is that emit light.  It amounts essentially to trying to read while looking into a flashlight.  If enough ambient light is present, the problem of feeling like one is looking directly into a light source subsides, but sometimes even very modest amounts of ambient light can washed out the screen, reducing effective contrast on the contents of the display and making it very hard to read.
</p><p>
Having a monitor that adjusts its brightness to compensate for ambient light can often be helpful at solving this problem, but there are always extreme (but not uncommon) cases where it will still not be effective, such as near a sunlit window where the display invariably gets washed out by sunlight (to produce enough contrast to still be legible, it would likely be hazardous to look directly into for prolonged periods), or in very dark rooms, where in order to produce enough contrast to be readable, the display has to still output a certain minimum amount of light that can still end up feeling like one is staring directing into a light source when staring at it for a prolonged period.
</p><p>
So, while it's great that you don't have a problem with reading information on computer screens... a lot of people still do.. and what I've mentioned above is the key issue with it.  The issue is generally not actually harmful to the eyes or visual cortex in any way, but still can induce fatigue far more rapidly than would happen otherwise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't get eye strain from monitors , that 's great .
The problem a lot of people have with monitors , however , is that emit light .
It amounts essentially to trying to read while looking into a flashlight .
If enough ambient light is present , the problem of feeling like one is looking directly into a light source subsides , but sometimes even very modest amounts of ambient light can washed out the screen , reducing effective contrast on the contents of the display and making it very hard to read .
Having a monitor that adjusts its brightness to compensate for ambient light can often be helpful at solving this problem , but there are always extreme ( but not uncommon ) cases where it will still not be effective , such as near a sunlit window where the display invariably gets washed out by sunlight ( to produce enough contrast to still be legible , it would likely be hazardous to look directly into for prolonged periods ) , or in very dark rooms , where in order to produce enough contrast to be readable , the display has to still output a certain minimum amount of light that can still end up feeling like one is staring directing into a light source when staring at it for a prolonged period .
So , while it 's great that you do n't have a problem with reading information on computer screens... a lot of people still do.. and what I 've mentioned above is the key issue with it .
The issue is generally not actually harmful to the eyes or visual cortex in any way , but still can induce fatigue far more rapidly than would happen otherwise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't get eye strain from monitors, that's great.
The problem a lot of people have with monitors, however, is that emit light.
It amounts essentially to trying to read while looking into a flashlight.
If enough ambient light is present, the problem of feeling like one is looking directly into a light source subsides, but sometimes even very modest amounts of ambient light can washed out the screen, reducing effective contrast on the contents of the display and making it very hard to read.
Having a monitor that adjusts its brightness to compensate for ambient light can often be helpful at solving this problem, but there are always extreme (but not uncommon) cases where it will still not be effective, such as near a sunlit window where the display invariably gets washed out by sunlight (to produce enough contrast to still be legible, it would likely be hazardous to look directly into for prolonged periods), or in very dark rooms, where in order to produce enough contrast to be readable, the display has to still output a certain minimum amount of light that can still end up feeling like one is staring directing into a light source when staring at it for a prolonged period.
So, while it's great that you don't have a problem with reading information on computer screens... a lot of people still do.. and what I've mentioned above is the key issue with it.
The issue is generally not actually harmful to the eyes or visual cortex in any way, but still can induce fatigue far more rapidly than would happen otherwise.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31487186</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>mdielmann</author>
	<datestamp>1268645340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I get eyestrain from LCD's.  For me, it reminds me of a long day standing on concrete.  Most days, it's not really that bad, but it's never as good as standing on turf.  When I read a book, with proper lighting, it is never as bad.  Like the foot strain analogy, I'm aware that it affect some people more than others.<br>Now, I wouldn't give up the benefits of search and portability to reduce that eyestrain.  But if I could reduce eyestrain while keeping those benefits from an electronic device, I'm interested.  Even now, I prefer to read from a screen, eyestrain notwithstanding.  When the prices are reasonable, I intend to buy an ebook reader.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get eyestrain from LCD 's .
For me , it reminds me of a long day standing on concrete .
Most days , it 's not really that bad , but it 's never as good as standing on turf .
When I read a book , with proper lighting , it is never as bad .
Like the foot strain analogy , I 'm aware that it affect some people more than others.Now , I would n't give up the benefits of search and portability to reduce that eyestrain .
But if I could reduce eyestrain while keeping those benefits from an electronic device , I 'm interested .
Even now , I prefer to read from a screen , eyestrain notwithstanding .
When the prices are reasonable , I intend to buy an ebook reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get eyestrain from LCD's.
For me, it reminds me of a long day standing on concrete.
Most days, it's not really that bad, but it's never as good as standing on turf.
When I read a book, with proper lighting, it is never as bad.
Like the foot strain analogy, I'm aware that it affect some people more than others.Now, I wouldn't give up the benefits of search and portability to reduce that eyestrain.
But if I could reduce eyestrain while keeping those benefits from an electronic device, I'm interested.
Even now, I prefer to read from a screen, eyestrain notwithstanding.
When the prices are reasonable, I intend to buy an ebook reader.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31486000</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1268684340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>After an hour? No. After 12 hours a day, 5 days a week? Yes. If I've been sitting in front of a computer screen for several hours and close my eyes I can feel the muscles unwinding. It's not something I'm conciously away of until I look away from the screen, but the muscles of and around my eyes are constantly tense when reading off a monitor.</p></div><p>Visit an eye doctor / optometrist please.  Seriously.  People with healthy eyes don't have that problem.  The problem is inside your eyeballs, not the monitors display technology.</p><p>You can wait, like my grandma did, of course she's blind in one eye now.  Or you can get it taken care of before you're permanently disabled.  Annoying as starting glaucoma eyedrops might be, it beats the hell out of blindness.</p><p>I'm serious, stop posting to slashdot about how wonderful e-ink would be, and fix yer eyes.  Once you're blind, e-ink vs LCD vs CRT is all pretty irrelevant.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>After an hour ?
No. After 12 hours a day , 5 days a week ?
Yes. If I 've been sitting in front of a computer screen for several hours and close my eyes I can feel the muscles unwinding .
It 's not something I 'm conciously away of until I look away from the screen , but the muscles of and around my eyes are constantly tense when reading off a monitor.Visit an eye doctor / optometrist please .
Seriously. People with healthy eyes do n't have that problem .
The problem is inside your eyeballs , not the monitors display technology.You can wait , like my grandma did , of course she 's blind in one eye now .
Or you can get it taken care of before you 're permanently disabled .
Annoying as starting glaucoma eyedrops might be , it beats the hell out of blindness.I 'm serious , stop posting to slashdot about how wonderful e-ink would be , and fix yer eyes .
Once you 're blind , e-ink vs LCD vs CRT is all pretty irrelevant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After an hour?
No. After 12 hours a day, 5 days a week?
Yes. If I've been sitting in front of a computer screen for several hours and close my eyes I can feel the muscles unwinding.
It's not something I'm conciously away of until I look away from the screen, but the muscles of and around my eyes are constantly tense when reading off a monitor.Visit an eye doctor / optometrist please.
Seriously.  People with healthy eyes don't have that problem.
The problem is inside your eyeballs, not the monitors display technology.You can wait, like my grandma did, of course she's blind in one eye now.
Or you can get it taken care of before you're permanently disabled.
Annoying as starting glaucoma eyedrops might be, it beats the hell out of blindness.I'm serious, stop posting to slashdot about how wonderful e-ink would be, and fix yer eyes.
Once you're blind, e-ink vs LCD vs CRT is all pretty irrelevant.
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	<title>Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268679420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I the only one who *doesn't* get eye-strain reading text on LCD's hour after hour ?
<br> <br>
I'm beginning to wonder whether the difference is actually Mac vs PC and the <a href="http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/06/font-rendering-respecting-the-pixel-grid.html" title="codinghorror.com">font rendering</a> [codinghorror.com] technologies. I use a Mac all day, reading text on LCDs, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Perhaps it's because the fonts look nicer (yeah, I know, it's an opinion, not a fact) to my eye on the Mac. I've lost count of the number of times I've spent days poring over PDFs and somehow managed to not notice this 'eye strain' that LCDs apparently cause. I actually *prefer* to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper...
<br> <br>
I'm also pretty convinced I'd get a lot more wound up over the slow refresh of the e-ink displays than the supposed eyestrain from LCDs...
<br> <br>
Simon.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who * does n't * get eye-strain reading text on LCD 's hour after hour ?
I 'm beginning to wonder whether the difference is actually Mac vs PC and the font rendering [ codinghorror.com ] technologies .
I use a Mac all day , reading text on LCDs , and it does n't bother me in the slightest .
Perhaps it 's because the fonts look nicer ( yeah , I know , it 's an opinion , not a fact ) to my eye on the Mac .
I 've lost count of the number of times I 've spent days poring over PDFs and somehow managed to not notice this 'eye strain ' that LCDs apparently cause .
I actually * prefer * to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper.. . I 'm also pretty convinced I 'd get a lot more wound up over the slow refresh of the e-ink displays than the supposed eyestrain from LCDs.. . Simon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who *doesn't* get eye-strain reading text on LCD's hour after hour ?
I'm beginning to wonder whether the difference is actually Mac vs PC and the font rendering [codinghorror.com] technologies.
I use a Mac all day, reading text on LCDs, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Perhaps it's because the fonts look nicer (yeah, I know, it's an opinion, not a fact) to my eye on the Mac.
I've lost count of the number of times I've spent days poring over PDFs and somehow managed to not notice this 'eye strain' that LCDs apparently cause.
I actually *prefer* to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper...
 
I'm also pretty convinced I'd get a lot more wound up over the slow refresh of the e-ink displays than the supposed eyestrain from LCDs...
 
Simon.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Bendable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268644920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Real books did not bend at all, the covers were made of wood, hence the name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Real books did not bend at all , the covers were made of wood , hence the name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Real books did not bend at all, the covers were made of wood, hence the name.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Cool, I'll wait for the magazine quality ones.</title>
	<author>Profane MuthaFucka</author>
	<datestamp>1268754960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nevermind that the current crop of black and white ebook readers have amazing functionality and are perfectly suitable to their task - reading black print on a white page.</p><p>I'm starting to think that you're just not that into books, but you do enjoy looking at pictures. The color ebook readers are for porn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nevermind that the current crop of black and white ebook readers have amazing functionality and are perfectly suitable to their task - reading black print on a white page.I 'm starting to think that you 're just not that into books , but you do enjoy looking at pictures .
The color ebook readers are for porn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nevermind that the current crop of black and white ebook readers have amazing functionality and are perfectly suitable to their task - reading black print on a white page.I'm starting to think that you're just not that into books, but you do enjoy looking at pictures.
The color ebook readers are for porn.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485586</id>
	<title>Re:Eye strain my hair ass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268682840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unless you're reading on the beach in the sun.  Or in low light situations where a glowing screen can be a strain.  I'm going to guess that the 10 hours a day you spend looking at an LCD do not include such activities.  The hour or two a day you may spend reading a book might.  What the world really needs is a display that is both e-ink and LCD with users given the option to choose the display type based upon content.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless you 're reading on the beach in the sun .
Or in low light situations where a glowing screen can be a strain .
I 'm going to guess that the 10 hours a day you spend looking at an LCD do not include such activities .
The hour or two a day you may spend reading a book might .
What the world really needs is a display that is both e-ink and LCD with users given the option to choose the display type based upon content .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless you're reading on the beach in the sun.
Or in low light situations where a glowing screen can be a strain.
I'm going to guess that the 10 hours a day you spend looking at an LCD do not include such activities.
The hour or two a day you may spend reading a book might.
What the world really needs is a display that is both e-ink and LCD with users given the option to choose the display type based upon content.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484518</id>
	<title>Apple could offer a model with eink screen ...</title>
	<author>perpenso</author>
	<datestamp>1268678940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Peng argues that E Ink has nothing to fear from the e-book apps on the Apple iPad and other devices with color LCDs, which, in his view, produce more eye strain and aren't as suitable for digital reading.</p></div><p>

E Ink certainly has less to fear from Apple since E Ink could sell their screens to Apple just like they sell to Amazon, Sony, etc.  If the eye strain issue becomes a concern Apple could simply offer an iPad version, or a new product derived from iPad that is more focused as an eReader and not a gaming/multimedia platform, with an E Ink screen.  I think it is premature to say that Amazon and Sony has nothing to fear.<br> <br>

--<br>
<a href="http://www.perpenso.com/calc/" title="perpenso.com" rel="nofollow">Perpenso Calc</a> [perpenso.com] for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPN</p></div>
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<tokenext>Peng argues that E Ink has nothing to fear from the e-book apps on the Apple iPad and other devices with color LCDs , which , in his view , produce more eye strain and are n't as suitable for digital reading .
E Ink certainly has less to fear from Apple since E Ink could sell their screens to Apple just like they sell to Amazon , Sony , etc .
If the eye strain issue becomes a concern Apple could simply offer an iPad version , or a new product derived from iPad that is more focused as an eReader and not a gaming/multimedia platform , with an E Ink screen .
I think it is premature to say that Amazon and Sony has nothing to fear .
-- Perpenso Calc [ perpenso.com ] for iPhone and iPod touch , scientific and bill/tip calculator , fractions , complex numbers , RPN</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Peng argues that E Ink has nothing to fear from the e-book apps on the Apple iPad and other devices with color LCDs, which, in his view, produce more eye strain and aren't as suitable for digital reading.
E Ink certainly has less to fear from Apple since E Ink could sell their screens to Apple just like they sell to Amazon, Sony, etc.
If the eye strain issue becomes a concern Apple could simply offer an iPad version, or a new product derived from iPad that is more focused as an eReader and not a gaming/multimedia platform, with an E Ink screen.
I think it is premature to say that Amazon and Sony has nothing to fear.
--
Perpenso Calc [perpenso.com] for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPN
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31492054</id>
	<title>Re:I predict in the next version</title>
	<author>mark-t</author>
	<datestamp>1268675700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although I understand your tone to be humorous, electronic books have the distinct advantage over physical books of not really weighing anything.  You can carry an entire library of information in your briefcase or backpack.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although I understand your tone to be humorous , electronic books have the distinct advantage over physical books of not really weighing anything .
You can carry an entire library of information in your briefcase or backpack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although I understand your tone to be humorous, electronic books have the distinct advantage over physical books of not really weighing anything.
You can carry an entire library of information in your briefcase or backpack.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31484722</id>
	<title>The actual cost is still more important. but...</title>
	<author>Caue</author>
	<datestamp>1268679600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The reasons I love printed books are still overseen by the manufacturers: lendability, durability, exchangability, highlightexability, pencilnoteability, trashability (when I simply don't enjoy the book, like reading dan brown for the first time.. urgh.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reasons I love printed books are still overseen by the manufacturers : lendability , durability , exchangability , highlightexability , pencilnoteability , trashability ( when I simply do n't enjoy the book , like reading dan brown for the first time. .
urgh. )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reasons I love printed books are still overseen by the manufacturers: lendability, durability, exchangability, highlightexability, pencilnoteability, trashability (when I simply don't enjoy the book, like reading dan brown for the first time..
urgh.)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485174</id>
	<title>Re:Cool, I'll wait for the magazine quality ones.</title>
	<author>Chris\_Stankowitz</author>
	<datestamp>1268681340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yeah, I bought a palm pilot and then one month later they announced the color version. I'm not getting bit by that again. I'll just wait for the color this time.</p></div><p>
You were bitten by your own ignorance, not by being am early adopter... there was no announcement and subsequent release of the color palm one moth after the B&amp;W Palm. It was easily 10 - 12 months.  That said, early adopters know the price they pay for being at the front of the line.
</p><p>
CS-</p></div>
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<tokenext>Yeah , I bought a palm pilot and then one month later they announced the color version .
I 'm not getting bit by that again .
I 'll just wait for the color this time .
You were bitten by your own ignorance , not by being am early adopter... there was no announcement and subsequent release of the color palm one moth after the B&amp;W Palm .
It was easily 10 - 12 months .
That said , early adopters know the price they pay for being at the front of the line .
CS-</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I bought a palm pilot and then one month later they announced the color version.
I'm not getting bit by that again.
I'll just wait for the color this time.
You were bitten by your own ignorance, not by being am early adopter... there was no announcement and subsequent release of the color palm one moth after the B&amp;W Palm.
It was easily 10 - 12 months.
That said, early adopters know the price they pay for being at the front of the line.
CS-
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31489872</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268658480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only time I notice it is if I need to go back/forward several pages, then the slow refresh is frustrating since you have to wait for a page to display before you can move to the next one.</p></div><p>Definitely a programmers&rsquo; error. It should simply stop rendering the current page and start with the new one, as soon as you press the button. Which would make it as fast as you could possibly press the button.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The only time I notice it is if I need to go back/forward several pages , then the slow refresh is frustrating since you have to wait for a page to display before you can move to the next one.Definitely a programmers    error .
It should simply stop rendering the current page and start with the new one , as soon as you press the button .
Which would make it as fast as you could possibly press the button .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only time I notice it is if I need to go back/forward several pages, then the slow refresh is frustrating since you have to wait for a page to display before you can move to the next one.Definitely a programmers’ error.
It should simply stop rendering the current page and start with the new one, as soon as you press the button.
Which would make it as fast as you could possibly press the button.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31500212</id>
	<title>Don't hold your breath</title>
	<author>Shagg</author>
	<datestamp>1268771700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>EInk has been saying "we'll have a color display next year"... for at least 5 years now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>EInk has been saying " we 'll have a color display next year " ... for at least 5 years now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EInk has been saying "we'll have a color display next year"... for at least 5 years now.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485692</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>broken\_chaos</author>
	<datestamp>1268683320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only time I notice it is if I need to go back/forward several pages, then the slow refresh is frustrating since you have to wait for a page to display before you can move to the next one.</p></div><p>On some readers (definitely Sony, dunno about others), press-and-hold on the back/forward buttons will make it start going through pages without doing a full page refresh.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The only time I notice it is if I need to go back/forward several pages , then the slow refresh is frustrating since you have to wait for a page to display before you can move to the next one.On some readers ( definitely Sony , dunno about others ) , press-and-hold on the back/forward buttons will make it start going through pages without doing a full page refresh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only time I notice it is if I need to go back/forward several pages, then the slow refresh is frustrating since you have to wait for a page to display before you can move to the next one.On some readers (definitely Sony, dunno about others), press-and-hold on the back/forward buttons will make it start going through pages without doing a full page refresh.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31489016</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268653380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am a programmer and I do get eye strain. Its not a day to day thing. But some days I come home and I simply can't use my computer or watch tv.</p><p>I think it may be the difference from good code and bad code. Good code has a lot of white space. Bad code is line after line of dense text.</p><p>I think people who say E-Ink is not important are ignoring history. E-books are not new. The form factor for these readers are not new. The invention that has pushed these devices to mass market is E-Ink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a programmer and I do get eye strain .
Its not a day to day thing .
But some days I come home and I simply ca n't use my computer or watch tv.I think it may be the difference from good code and bad code .
Good code has a lot of white space .
Bad code is line after line of dense text.I think people who say E-Ink is not important are ignoring history .
E-books are not new .
The form factor for these readers are not new .
The invention that has pushed these devices to mass market is E-Ink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a programmer and I do get eye strain.
Its not a day to day thing.
But some days I come home and I simply can't use my computer or watch tv.I think it may be the difference from good code and bad code.
Good code has a lot of white space.
Bad code is line after line of dense text.I think people who say E-Ink is not important are ignoring history.
E-books are not new.
The form factor for these readers are not new.
The invention that has pushed these devices to mass market is E-Ink.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31490002</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268659200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't get LCD eyestrain either, as long as i do the following.</p><p>1. Match brightness to surroundings. My MacbookPro tries to do this "automagically", but i find that manual adjustment is better and more accurate to my viewing needs.  The display is plenty bright enough to read outdoors.*</p><p>2.make sure to look around and stretch every 15 minutes or so. Mostly i think this is just for my mental sanity.</p><p>*Who the fuck actually reads a book in direct sunlight !?! i tried that shit just because i realized never done it and the sun dun' fried my shit!. seriously, i hear that that's supposed to be the eInk's big deal. i hate it.</p><p>All of the eInk displays i've seen (kindle, sony, nook) all look like dark grey on light grey to me. Contrast ratio is balls compared to my lappy with the screen adjusted to the right level.</p><p>They are not at all comfortable to read in low light and since there is a bit of glare on the anitglare screens i'm forced to hold it at weird angles to comfortably read in real world scenarios.</p><p>-Simon (a different simon)</p><p>by the way Space Cowboy, you always seem to have very good comments. You've actually posted crap i was going to post and freaked me out when the byline said "simon" and for a brief moment i thought i had posted without remembering<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get LCD eyestrain either , as long as i do the following.1 .
Match brightness to surroundings .
My MacbookPro tries to do this " automagically " , but i find that manual adjustment is better and more accurate to my viewing needs .
The display is plenty bright enough to read outdoors .
* 2.make sure to look around and stretch every 15 minutes or so .
Mostly i think this is just for my mental sanity .
* Who the fuck actually reads a book in direct sunlight ! ? !
i tried that shit just because i realized never done it and the sun dun ' fried my shit ! .
seriously , i hear that that 's supposed to be the eInk 's big deal .
i hate it.All of the eInk displays i 've seen ( kindle , sony , nook ) all look like dark grey on light grey to me .
Contrast ratio is balls compared to my lappy with the screen adjusted to the right level.They are not at all comfortable to read in low light and since there is a bit of glare on the anitglare screens i 'm forced to hold it at weird angles to comfortably read in real world scenarios.-Simon ( a different simon ) by the way Space Cowboy , you always seem to have very good comments .
You 've actually posted crap i was going to post and freaked me out when the byline said " simon " and for a brief moment i thought i had posted without remembering ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get LCD eyestrain either, as long as i do the following.1.
Match brightness to surroundings.
My MacbookPro tries to do this "automagically", but i find that manual adjustment is better and more accurate to my viewing needs.
The display is plenty bright enough to read outdoors.
*2.make sure to look around and stretch every 15 minutes or so.
Mostly i think this is just for my mental sanity.
*Who the fuck actually reads a book in direct sunlight !?!
i tried that shit just because i realized never done it and the sun dun' fried my shit!.
seriously, i hear that that's supposed to be the eInk's big deal.
i hate it.All of the eInk displays i've seen (kindle, sony, nook) all look like dark grey on light grey to me.
Contrast ratio is balls compared to my lappy with the screen adjusted to the right level.They are not at all comfortable to read in low light and since there is a bit of glare on the anitglare screens i'm forced to hold it at weird angles to comfortably read in real world scenarios.-Simon (a different simon)by the way Space Cowboy, you always seem to have very good comments.
You've actually posted crap i was going to post and freaked me out when the byline said "simon" and for a brief moment i thought i had posted without remembering ;)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31492028</id>
	<title>Re:I think it will be a while</title>
	<author>mark-t</author>
	<datestamp>1268675400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I think it will be a while for a color Kindle.</p></div></blockquote><p>
<a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/mirasol-shows-prototype-reader-like-device-playing-back-color-vi/" title="engadget.com">Fall, 2010</a> [engadget.com]</p></div>
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<tokenext>I think it will be a while for a color Kindle .
Fall , 2010 [ engadget.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it will be a while for a color Kindle.
Fall, 2010 [engadget.com]
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31500360</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268772240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is just great.  Now my entire collection of books printed in monochrome will have to be "enhanced" with the addition of color, and cost will be increased due to the "added value."</p><p>Except some of us prefer text to be kept simple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just great .
Now my entire collection of books printed in monochrome will have to be " enhanced " with the addition of color , and cost will be increased due to the " added value .
" Except some of us prefer text to be kept simple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just great.
Now my entire collection of books printed in monochrome will have to be "enhanced" with the addition of color, and cost will be increased due to the "added value.
"Except some of us prefer text to be kept simple.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485222</id>
	<title>Re:Bendable</title>
	<author>drxenos</author>
	<datestamp>1268681520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The new Kindle! Now with that Old Book Smell (tm)!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The new Kindle !
Now with that Old Book Smell ( tm ) !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new Kindle!
Now with that Old Book Smell (tm)!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31486158</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1268684820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Am I the only one who *doesn't* get eye-strain reading text on LCD's hour after hour ?</p><p>I'm beginning to wonder whether the difference is actually Mac vs PC and the font rendering [codinghorror.com] technologies. I use a Mac all day, reading text on LCDs, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Perhaps it's because the fonts look nicer (yeah, I know, it's an opinion, not a fact) to my eye on the Mac. I've lost count of the number of times I've spent days poring over PDFs and somehow managed to not notice this 'eye strain' that LCDs apparently cause. I actually *prefer* to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper...</p> </div><p>Well, I guess YMMV and all that...</p><p>I personally spend a good amount of my day reading text on an LCD.  But it isn't the same as reading a novel recreationally.</p><p>When I'm reading stuff at work I'm not generally staring at pure text on an LCD for hours at a time.  I'm generally being interrupted by phone calls...  Or having to answer an IM or an email...  Or I'm switching between multiple documents...  Or I'll be navigating through something's GUI...  Or a co-worker will stop by to ask a question...</p><p>Normally none of that generates any eyestrain.  I've got plenty of chances throughout the day to let my eyes rest and refocus and whatever they need to do.</p><p>When I'm reading recreationally, however, it isn't unusual to get completely sucked in to a good book.  Hours can go by without my notice.  I will literally be staring at text for hours at a time - no interruptions, no breaks, no rest for my eyes.</p><p>This can cause me eyestrain.</p><p>I have been reading ebooks for probably a decade now.  I started out with an old Handspring Visor...  Then moved on to a Palm PDA...  I've spent a couple years reading ebooks on laptops and netbooks and desktop computers...  And have just recently purchased a nook...</p><p>The LCDs have all been harder to read for extended periods of time.  The nook, however, doesn't bother me any more than paper does.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm also pretty convinced I'd get a lot more wound up over the slow refresh of the e-ink displays than the supposed eyestrain from LCDs...</p> </div><p>Lots of folks say this.  From my experience, the delay is no different than the delay in turning a page in a paper book.  It isn't any more jarring or distracting or time-consuming or derailing or anything else.  There's just a momentary pause in your reading as you turn the page - just like if it were a paper book.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Am I the only one who * does n't * get eye-strain reading text on LCD 's hour after hour ? I 'm beginning to wonder whether the difference is actually Mac vs PC and the font rendering [ codinghorror.com ] technologies .
I use a Mac all day , reading text on LCDs , and it does n't bother me in the slightest .
Perhaps it 's because the fonts look nicer ( yeah , I know , it 's an opinion , not a fact ) to my eye on the Mac .
I 've lost count of the number of times I 've spent days poring over PDFs and somehow managed to not notice this 'eye strain ' that LCDs apparently cause .
I actually * prefer * to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper... Well , I guess YMMV and all that...I personally spend a good amount of my day reading text on an LCD .
But it is n't the same as reading a novel recreationally.When I 'm reading stuff at work I 'm not generally staring at pure text on an LCD for hours at a time .
I 'm generally being interrupted by phone calls... Or having to answer an IM or an email... Or I 'm switching between multiple documents... Or I 'll be navigating through something 's GUI... Or a co-worker will stop by to ask a question...Normally none of that generates any eyestrain .
I 've got plenty of chances throughout the day to let my eyes rest and refocus and whatever they need to do.When I 'm reading recreationally , however , it is n't unusual to get completely sucked in to a good book .
Hours can go by without my notice .
I will literally be staring at text for hours at a time - no interruptions , no breaks , no rest for my eyes.This can cause me eyestrain.I have been reading ebooks for probably a decade now .
I started out with an old Handspring Visor... Then moved on to a Palm PDA... I 've spent a couple years reading ebooks on laptops and netbooks and desktop computers... And have just recently purchased a nook...The LCDs have all been harder to read for extended periods of time .
The nook , however , does n't bother me any more than paper does.I 'm also pretty convinced I 'd get a lot more wound up over the slow refresh of the e-ink displays than the supposed eyestrain from LCDs... Lots of folks say this .
From my experience , the delay is no different than the delay in turning a page in a paper book .
It is n't any more jarring or distracting or time-consuming or derailing or anything else .
There 's just a momentary pause in your reading as you turn the page - just like if it were a paper book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who *doesn't* get eye-strain reading text on LCD's hour after hour ?I'm beginning to wonder whether the difference is actually Mac vs PC and the font rendering [codinghorror.com] technologies.
I use a Mac all day, reading text on LCDs, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Perhaps it's because the fonts look nicer (yeah, I know, it's an opinion, not a fact) to my eye on the Mac.
I've lost count of the number of times I've spent days poring over PDFs and somehow managed to not notice this 'eye strain' that LCDs apparently cause.
I actually *prefer* to read documents on the screen rather than printed out on paper... Well, I guess YMMV and all that...I personally spend a good amount of my day reading text on an LCD.
But it isn't the same as reading a novel recreationally.When I'm reading stuff at work I'm not generally staring at pure text on an LCD for hours at a time.
I'm generally being interrupted by phone calls...  Or having to answer an IM or an email...  Or I'm switching between multiple documents...  Or I'll be navigating through something's GUI...  Or a co-worker will stop by to ask a question...Normally none of that generates any eyestrain.
I've got plenty of chances throughout the day to let my eyes rest and refocus and whatever they need to do.When I'm reading recreationally, however, it isn't unusual to get completely sucked in to a good book.
Hours can go by without my notice.
I will literally be staring at text for hours at a time - no interruptions, no breaks, no rest for my eyes.This can cause me eyestrain.I have been reading ebooks for probably a decade now.
I started out with an old Handspring Visor...  Then moved on to a Palm PDA...  I've spent a couple years reading ebooks on laptops and netbooks and desktop computers...  And have just recently purchased a nook...The LCDs have all been harder to read for extended periods of time.
The nook, however, doesn't bother me any more than paper does.I'm also pretty convinced I'd get a lot more wound up over the slow refresh of the e-ink displays than the supposed eyestrain from LCDs... Lots of folks say this.
From my experience, the delay is no different than the delay in turning a page in a paper book.
It isn't any more jarring or distracting or time-consuming or derailing or anything else.
There's just a momentary pause in your reading as you turn the page - just like if it were a paper book.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485898</id>
	<title>Way too little, way too late</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1268683980000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>The idea that iPad causes eye strain compared to e-ink is ridiculous. iPad dims or brightens its screen according to the ambient light, has an all-digital connection, advanced typography, and is probably the best screen most consumers have ever seen. If you can spend 8 hours at work looking at a shitty analog-connected display under flourescent lighting, iPad will be a joy to read on, just like iPod and iPhone have already been for some time now. The idea that a book light strapped to low-contrast e-ink with slow refresh, poor typography, and grayscale figures, charts, and illustrations that you have to visually decode is better than iPad is bizarre.</p><p>We need a replacement not just for the minority of books that can be rendered practicaly in gray, but also for the rest of the library: art books, children's books, recipe books, magazines, technical books, photo books. And we need it in 2009, when print died because the cost of paper, ink, and shipping soared to 75\% of the publishing budget.</p><p>Beyond the technical, there is also the fact that by the end of the first quarter of iPad sales, Apple expects to sell 5 million iPads, all with a full HTML5 app environment, full native app environment, full eBook reader, full ISO audio video, and a digital distribution network, while to date Amazon has sold only 3 million Kindles. Which would you prepare a title for, if you're a publisher? Consider also that book masters are in color, we need only convert them to run on iPad. To run on Kindle we have to make gray figures, we have to make sure the book works in gray, it is ridiculous.</p><p>And to not have the full Web in your reader is just stupid. WebKit weighs the same as 1 book, and runs on all architectures with excellent performance and is free and open source. Books have had hyperlinks in them for 15 years.</p><p>E-ink had its chance. Even so, many reviewers ranked iPod touch as the second-best reader after Kindle for some time now, giving it second only because of screen size. iPad can do 10 hours of video, likely 12-15 of reading, and can hold a charge for a month when unused. People are not going to trade the 900 other things an iPad does for a gray Kindle-style reader to get the chance not to plug it in at night.</p><p>There's just no chance for e-ink once the iPad cat is out of the bag. Perception has changed among readers and publishers.<br>
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<tokenext>The idea that iPad causes eye strain compared to e-ink is ridiculous .
iPad dims or brightens its screen according to the ambient light , has an all-digital connection , advanced typography , and is probably the best screen most consumers have ever seen .
If you can spend 8 hours at work looking at a shitty analog-connected display under flourescent lighting , iPad will be a joy to read on , just like iPod and iPhone have already been for some time now .
The idea that a book light strapped to low-contrast e-ink with slow refresh , poor typography , and grayscale figures , charts , and illustrations that you have to visually decode is better than iPad is bizarre.We need a replacement not just for the minority of books that can be rendered practicaly in gray , but also for the rest of the library : art books , children 's books , recipe books , magazines , technical books , photo books .
And we need it in 2009 , when print died because the cost of paper , ink , and shipping soared to 75 \ % of the publishing budget.Beyond the technical , there is also the fact that by the end of the first quarter of iPad sales , Apple expects to sell 5 million iPads , all with a full HTML5 app environment , full native app environment , full eBook reader , full ISO audio video , and a digital distribution network , while to date Amazon has sold only 3 million Kindles .
Which would you prepare a title for , if you 're a publisher ?
Consider also that book masters are in color , we need only convert them to run on iPad .
To run on Kindle we have to make gray figures , we have to make sure the book works in gray , it is ridiculous.And to not have the full Web in your reader is just stupid .
WebKit weighs the same as 1 book , and runs on all architectures with excellent performance and is free and open source .
Books have had hyperlinks in them for 15 years.E-ink had its chance .
Even so , many reviewers ranked iPod touch as the second-best reader after Kindle for some time now , giving it second only because of screen size .
iPad can do 10 hours of video , likely 12-15 of reading , and can hold a charge for a month when unused .
People are not going to trade the 900 other things an iPad does for a gray Kindle-style reader to get the chance not to plug it in at night.There 's just no chance for e-ink once the iPad cat is out of the bag .
Perception has changed among readers and publishers .
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<sentencetext>The idea that iPad causes eye strain compared to e-ink is ridiculous.
iPad dims or brightens its screen according to the ambient light, has an all-digital connection, advanced typography, and is probably the best screen most consumers have ever seen.
If you can spend 8 hours at work looking at a shitty analog-connected display under flourescent lighting, iPad will be a joy to read on, just like iPod and iPhone have already been for some time now.
The idea that a book light strapped to low-contrast e-ink with slow refresh, poor typography, and grayscale figures, charts, and illustrations that you have to visually decode is better than iPad is bizarre.We need a replacement not just for the minority of books that can be rendered practicaly in gray, but also for the rest of the library: art books, children's books, recipe books, magazines, technical books, photo books.
And we need it in 2009, when print died because the cost of paper, ink, and shipping soared to 75\% of the publishing budget.Beyond the technical, there is also the fact that by the end of the first quarter of iPad sales, Apple expects to sell 5 million iPads, all with a full HTML5 app environment, full native app environment, full eBook reader, full ISO audio video, and a digital distribution network, while to date Amazon has sold only 3 million Kindles.
Which would you prepare a title for, if you're a publisher?
Consider also that book masters are in color, we need only convert them to run on iPad.
To run on Kindle we have to make gray figures, we have to make sure the book works in gray, it is ridiculous.And to not have the full Web in your reader is just stupid.
WebKit weighs the same as 1 book, and runs on all architectures with excellent performance and is free and open source.
Books have had hyperlinks in them for 15 years.E-ink had its chance.
Even so, many reviewers ranked iPod touch as the second-best reader after Kindle for some time now, giving it second only because of screen size.
iPad can do 10 hours of video, likely 12-15 of reading, and can hold a charge for a month when unused.
People are not going to trade the 900 other things an iPad does for a gray Kindle-style reader to get the chance not to plug it in at night.There's just no chance for e-ink once the iPad cat is out of the bag.
Perception has changed among readers and publishers.
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	<title>Re:Comics? C'Mon! This is Porn's Entre to the Mark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268682240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>VHS didn't beat Betamax because of porn. That is a myth that needs to die. VHS beat Beat because it had a less restrictive license and could record more than an hour. Before the idiots come out: Yes, originally Beta could only record for an hour. Yes, I know some of you kids have Beta tapes longer than an hour. In later revisions, they made the tapes longer and thinner and slowed the speed down to increase the recording time, but by then it was already to late. VHS was entrenched.</htmltext>
<tokenext>VHS did n't beat Betamax because of porn .
That is a myth that needs to die .
VHS beat Beat because it had a less restrictive license and could record more than an hour .
Before the idiots come out : Yes , originally Beta could only record for an hour .
Yes , I know some of you kids have Beta tapes longer than an hour .
In later revisions , they made the tapes longer and thinner and slowed the speed down to increase the recording time , but by then it was already to late .
VHS was entrenched .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VHS didn't beat Betamax because of porn.
That is a myth that needs to die.
VHS beat Beat because it had a less restrictive license and could record more than an hour.
Before the idiots come out: Yes, originally Beta could only record for an hour.
Yes, I know some of you kids have Beta tapes longer than an hour.
In later revisions, they made the tapes longer and thinner and slowed the speed down to increase the recording time, but by then it was already to late.
VHS was entrenched.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485828</id>
	<title>Re:Bendable</title>
	<author>jank1887</author>
	<datestamp>1268683860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>the point of a bendable book is so you can turn the pages. how many pages do you think your e-ink book needs?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the point of a bendable book is so you can turn the pages .
how many pages do you think your e-ink book needs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the point of a bendable book is so you can turn the pages.
how many pages do you think your e-ink book needs?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Bendable</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1268657280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd consider myself a 'real' reader.  I've read three novels in the last four days (I joined a library a week ago, which was a terrible idea for my productivity).  I've read a lot of books on an eBook reader (not sure how many exactly - over a hundred).  Given the choice, I'd rather read the paper one.  The smell isn't the most important thing, but the smell and texture of the book do add to the experience.  The advantage of the eBook is that I can get access thousands of public domain texts almost instantly.  To get them from the library I need to walk through the park for ten minutes, along the sea front for fifteen, and then sit in the cafe drinking coffee and looking out over the bay for an hour.  The last part might not be strictly required, but it probably explains a lot of why I haven't read any eBooks for a while.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd consider myself a 'real ' reader .
I 've read three novels in the last four days ( I joined a library a week ago , which was a terrible idea for my productivity ) .
I 've read a lot of books on an eBook reader ( not sure how many exactly - over a hundred ) .
Given the choice , I 'd rather read the paper one .
The smell is n't the most important thing , but the smell and texture of the book do add to the experience .
The advantage of the eBook is that I can get access thousands of public domain texts almost instantly .
To get them from the library I need to walk through the park for ten minutes , along the sea front for fifteen , and then sit in the cafe drinking coffee and looking out over the bay for an hour .
The last part might not be strictly required , but it probably explains a lot of why I have n't read any eBooks for a while .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd consider myself a 'real' reader.
I've read three novels in the last four days (I joined a library a week ago, which was a terrible idea for my productivity).
I've read a lot of books on an eBook reader (not sure how many exactly - over a hundred).
Given the choice, I'd rather read the paper one.
The smell isn't the most important thing, but the smell and texture of the book do add to the experience.
The advantage of the eBook is that I can get access thousands of public domain texts almost instantly.
To get them from the library I need to walk through the park for ten minutes, along the sea front for fifteen, and then sit in the cafe drinking coffee and looking out over the bay for an hour.
The last part might not be strictly required, but it probably explains a lot of why I haven't read any eBooks for a while.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485602</id>
	<title>What market for this?</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1268682960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's the market for color e-ink? It's not really suitble for a laptop because it is too slow. The cursor wouldn't move well, you cannot watch video, video games would be painful. As a control panel on some device, there are a lot more cheaper solutions, and you'd need to have some reason for an expensive color display on your coffee machine. You might be able to put a curved display on something, but since they aren't doing this with the B&amp;W version, why would the do it with color? So, you're probably limited to e-book type of uses.</p><p>Normal mass market books are plain black and white, so color is only necessary if you have some speciality book with pictures. So, you're mostly looking at textbooks, comic books, and magazines. Textbooks cost the same, or more, for electronic instead of printed versions, and you cannot write in the margins, so there isn't going to be a large demand by students. Comic book readers aren't likely to spend an extra $400, which would probably be better spent on 200 or so more comics that could eventually be resold by some ancester. The only other option would be for porn, but the abuse of the device would be awful.</p><p>So, unless the price is about the same as the black and white version, it's not likely to have a very large market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the market for color e-ink ?
It 's not really suitble for a laptop because it is too slow .
The cursor would n't move well , you can not watch video , video games would be painful .
As a control panel on some device , there are a lot more cheaper solutions , and you 'd need to have some reason for an expensive color display on your coffee machine .
You might be able to put a curved display on something , but since they are n't doing this with the B&amp;W version , why would the do it with color ?
So , you 're probably limited to e-book type of uses.Normal mass market books are plain black and white , so color is only necessary if you have some speciality book with pictures .
So , you 're mostly looking at textbooks , comic books , and magazines .
Textbooks cost the same , or more , for electronic instead of printed versions , and you can not write in the margins , so there is n't going to be a large demand by students .
Comic book readers are n't likely to spend an extra $ 400 , which would probably be better spent on 200 or so more comics that could eventually be resold by some ancester .
The only other option would be for porn , but the abuse of the device would be awful.So , unless the price is about the same as the black and white version , it 's not likely to have a very large market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the market for color e-ink?
It's not really suitble for a laptop because it is too slow.
The cursor wouldn't move well, you cannot watch video, video games would be painful.
As a control panel on some device, there are a lot more cheaper solutions, and you'd need to have some reason for an expensive color display on your coffee machine.
You might be able to put a curved display on something, but since they aren't doing this with the B&amp;W version, why would the do it with color?
So, you're probably limited to e-book type of uses.Normal mass market books are plain black and white, so color is only necessary if you have some speciality book with pictures.
So, you're mostly looking at textbooks, comic books, and magazines.
Textbooks cost the same, or more, for electronic instead of printed versions, and you cannot write in the margins, so there isn't going to be a large demand by students.
Comic book readers aren't likely to spend an extra $400, which would probably be better spent on 200 or so more comics that could eventually be resold by some ancester.
The only other option would be for porn, but the abuse of the device would be awful.So, unless the price is about the same as the black and white version, it's not likely to have a very large market.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485648</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268683140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mac Fanboy Defense Force Assemble!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mac Fanboy Defense Force Assemble !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mac Fanboy Defense Force Assemble!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31489662</id>
	<title>Re:I predict in the next version</title>
	<author>failedlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1268657220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Starting at page one, photocopy the e-book reader. Continue to the end of the book.</p><p>The finished product, you should be able to pass along to the kids.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Starting at page one , photocopy the e-book reader .
Continue to the end of the book.The finished product , you should be able to pass along to the kids .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Starting at page one, photocopy the e-book reader.
Continue to the end of the book.The finished product, you should be able to pass along to the kids.
;)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485238</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268681580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Two words: Power consumption.</p><p>Seriously, regardless of eyestrain (and LCDs do cause eyestrain, I use them 10-12 hours per day), this alone is why eInk readers won't be displace by netbooks.  I actually love my netbook, it does just fine for reading in a pinch, but it's crap for it in lieu of an eInk display.  Yeah, I'd make sure I really wanted to read a lot on the go before I plunked down 300 bucks for one, but don't pretend your netbook is a viable replacement for someone who does have a need to read a lot on the go, it's not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two words : Power consumption.Seriously , regardless of eyestrain ( and LCDs do cause eyestrain , I use them 10-12 hours per day ) , this alone is why eInk readers wo n't be displace by netbooks .
I actually love my netbook , it does just fine for reading in a pinch , but it 's crap for it in lieu of an eInk display .
Yeah , I 'd make sure I really wanted to read a lot on the go before I plunked down 300 bucks for one , but do n't pretend your netbook is a viable replacement for someone who does have a need to read a lot on the go , it 's not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two words: Power consumption.Seriously, regardless of eyestrain (and LCDs do cause eyestrain, I use them 10-12 hours per day), this alone is why eInk readers won't be displace by netbooks.
I actually love my netbook, it does just fine for reading in a pinch, but it's crap for it in lieu of an eInk display.
Yeah, I'd make sure I really wanted to read a lot on the go before I plunked down 300 bucks for one, but don't pretend your netbook is a viable replacement for someone who does have a need to read a lot on the go, it's not.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485786</id>
	<title>Re:Apple could offer a model with eink screen ...</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1268683740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>E Ink certainly has less to fear from Apple since E Ink could sell their screens to Apple</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>Perpenso Calc for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPN</p></div><p>Oh the irony, oh the irony.  E-ink display would kill your app.  Nice app, gotta love a RPN calculator, but using your "20 digit precision" I don't want to go click / one second while the screen flashes a couple times / click / delay / click / delay on an eink display.</p><p>Heck, I could probably add and subtract in my head faster than your calculator could update a slow eink display.</p></div>
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<tokenext>E Ink certainly has less to fear from Apple since E Ink could sell their screens to ApplePerpenso Calc for iPhone and iPod touch , scientific and bill/tip calculator , fractions , complex numbers , RPNOh the irony , oh the irony .
E-ink display would kill your app .
Nice app , got ta love a RPN calculator , but using your " 20 digit precision " I do n't want to go click / one second while the screen flashes a couple times / click / delay / click / delay on an eink display.Heck , I could probably add and subtract in my head faster than your calculator could update a slow eink display .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>E Ink certainly has less to fear from Apple since E Ink could sell their screens to ApplePerpenso Calc for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPNOh the irony, oh the irony.
E-ink display would kill your app.
Nice app, gotta love a RPN calculator, but using your "20 digit precision" I don't want to go click / one second while the screen flashes a couple times / click / delay / click / delay on an eink display.Heck, I could probably add and subtract in my head faster than your calculator could update a slow eink display.
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	<title>Re:Bendable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268643720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> I think any real reader would be insulted by what you said. What matters is the text, not the smell of the physical media or anything so superficial. Among the things that I really like about ebook readers is the possibility of zooming, my mother was complaining yesterday that she couldn't read a book because the font was too small, and my grandfather won't be able to read due to sight problems for the rest of his life, if only there was a way to enlarge any text...<br>
&nbsp; That said, I'd really like a reader with a leather cover, perhaps with a wooden bezel, but that's just golden (ok, wooden/leather) lining, not the main point of a book at all!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think any real reader would be insulted by what you said .
What matters is the text , not the smell of the physical media or anything so superficial .
Among the things that I really like about ebook readers is the possibility of zooming , my mother was complaining yesterday that she could n't read a book because the font was too small , and my grandfather wo n't be able to read due to sight problems for the rest of his life , if only there was a way to enlarge any text.. .   That said , I 'd really like a reader with a leather cover , perhaps with a wooden bezel , but that 's just golden ( ok , wooden/leather ) lining , not the main point of a book at all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I think any real reader would be insulted by what you said.
What matters is the text, not the smell of the physical media or anything so superficial.
Among the things that I really like about ebook readers is the possibility of zooming, my mother was complaining yesterday that she couldn't read a book because the font was too small, and my grandfather won't be able to read due to sight problems for the rest of his life, if only there was a way to enlarge any text...
  That said, I'd really like a reader with a leather cover, perhaps with a wooden bezel, but that's just golden (ok, wooden/leather) lining, not the main point of a book at all!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31488126</id>
	<title>Re:What market for this?</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1268648880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What's the market for color e-ink?</p></div></blockquote><p>The same as the market for books printed in color.</p><blockquote><div><p>Normal mass market books are plain black and white</p></div></blockquote><p>Sure, mass market novels tend to be black and white; technical books fairly often use color (and more often do in electronic formats where there is no substantial difference in production costs associated with that choice.) Graphic novels, tabletop RPG manuals, cookbooks, craft books, etc., all frequently use color.</p><blockquote><div><p>Textbooks cost the same, or more, for electronic instead of printed versions, and you cannot write in the margins, so there isn't going to be a large demand by students.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Many electronic formats support annotations, so this is simply false.</p><blockquote><div><p>Comic book readers aren't likely to spend an extra $400, which would probably be better spent on 200 or so more comics that could eventually be resold by some ancester.</p></div></blockquote><p>Its probably a bad idea, in general, to consider the price of a reader as competing with the price of content. Mostly, it should be viewed against the cost of <i>storage</i> and <i>transportation</i> for dead-tree media: an ereader doesn't replace printed books, it replaces bookshelves to hold them and backpacks to carry them; ebooks replace printed books.</p></div>
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<tokenext>What 's the market for color e-ink ? The same as the market for books printed in color.Normal mass market books are plain black and whiteSure , mass market novels tend to be black and white ; technical books fairly often use color ( and more often do in electronic formats where there is no substantial difference in production costs associated with that choice .
) Graphic novels , tabletop RPG manuals , cookbooks , craft books , etc. , all frequently use color.Textbooks cost the same , or more , for electronic instead of printed versions , and you can not write in the margins , so there is n't going to be a large demand by students .
Many electronic formats support annotations , so this is simply false.Comic book readers are n't likely to spend an extra $ 400 , which would probably be better spent on 200 or so more comics that could eventually be resold by some ancester.Its probably a bad idea , in general , to consider the price of a reader as competing with the price of content .
Mostly , it should be viewed against the cost of storage and transportation for dead-tree media : an ereader does n't replace printed books , it replaces bookshelves to hold them and backpacks to carry them ; ebooks replace printed books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the market for color e-ink?The same as the market for books printed in color.Normal mass market books are plain black and whiteSure, mass market novels tend to be black and white; technical books fairly often use color (and more often do in electronic formats where there is no substantial difference in production costs associated with that choice.
) Graphic novels, tabletop RPG manuals, cookbooks, craft books, etc., all frequently use color.Textbooks cost the same, or more, for electronic instead of printed versions, and you cannot write in the margins, so there isn't going to be a large demand by students.
Many electronic formats support annotations, so this is simply false.Comic book readers aren't likely to spend an extra $400, which would probably be better spent on 200 or so more comics that could eventually be resold by some ancester.Its probably a bad idea, in general, to consider the price of a reader as competing with the price of content.
Mostly, it should be viewed against the cost of storage and transportation for dead-tree media: an ereader doesn't replace printed books, it replaces bookshelves to hold them and backpacks to carry them; ebooks replace printed books.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31492978</id>
	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268734560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess you are...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess you are.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess you are...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1268650740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No.</p><p>I spend hours straight reading off LCD screens. I don't get eye-strain, headaches, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No.I spend hours straight reading off LCD screens .
I do n't get eye-strain , headaches , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.I spend hours straight reading off LCD screens.
I don't get eye-strain, headaches, etc.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Comics</title>
	<author>hanabal</author>
	<datestamp>1268683740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can buy marvel and DC comics for my psp now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can buy marvel and DC comics for my psp now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can buy marvel and DC comics for my psp now.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_1710247.31485632</id>
	<title>Newpaper Color?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268683080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the company says its first color screens in 2011 will have newspaper-quality color,</p></div><p>So, in other words, they will suck balls. Hard.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the company says its first color screens in 2011 will have newspaper-quality color,So , in other words , they will suck balls .
Hard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the company says its first color screens in 2011 will have newspaper-quality color,So, in other words, they will suck balls.
Hard.
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	<title>Re:Comics</title>
	<author>Jer</author>
	<datestamp>1268685780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The same can be said for books.  Book collectors spend much, much more on rare first editions of various tomes than anyone has spent on individual rare comic book issues.  Even with the recent "record setting" Batman and Superman sales of over a million dollars at auction, the book market sees collectors spending well over that on rare books every year, and records for the most money spent on a single book are more in the tens-of-millions of dollars range rather than in the one million dollar range.</p><p>The difference between normal books and comic books is that the (superhero) comic book publishers have run their market into the ground so that there are only about a 100,000 dedicated monthly readers left in the US at this point (with similar numbers abroad).  So the collectors have an outsized influence on the market as a whole (not even getting into the fact that almost every comics retailer out there is himself a collector and lets that influence his purchasing decisions).  It doesn't have to be that way - a cheap distribution platform with instant world-wide access could be just the thing to get some mainstream appeal for comics again - but for now the major comics companies are sitting tight and seem to be content to just milk their existing collector-heavy readership base until the market finally shrinks to the point where it isn't profitable to print and distribute books anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The same can be said for books .
Book collectors spend much , much more on rare first editions of various tomes than anyone has spent on individual rare comic book issues .
Even with the recent " record setting " Batman and Superman sales of over a million dollars at auction , the book market sees collectors spending well over that on rare books every year , and records for the most money spent on a single book are more in the tens-of-millions of dollars range rather than in the one million dollar range.The difference between normal books and comic books is that the ( superhero ) comic book publishers have run their market into the ground so that there are only about a 100,000 dedicated monthly readers left in the US at this point ( with similar numbers abroad ) .
So the collectors have an outsized influence on the market as a whole ( not even getting into the fact that almost every comics retailer out there is himself a collector and lets that influence his purchasing decisions ) .
It does n't have to be that way - a cheap distribution platform with instant world-wide access could be just the thing to get some mainstream appeal for comics again - but for now the major comics companies are sitting tight and seem to be content to just milk their existing collector-heavy readership base until the market finally shrinks to the point where it is n't profitable to print and distribute books anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same can be said for books.
Book collectors spend much, much more on rare first editions of various tomes than anyone has spent on individual rare comic book issues.
Even with the recent "record setting" Batman and Superman sales of over a million dollars at auction, the book market sees collectors spending well over that on rare books every year, and records for the most money spent on a single book are more in the tens-of-millions of dollars range rather than in the one million dollar range.The difference between normal books and comic books is that the (superhero) comic book publishers have run their market into the ground so that there are only about a 100,000 dedicated monthly readers left in the US at this point (with similar numbers abroad).
So the collectors have an outsized influence on the market as a whole (not even getting into the fact that almost every comics retailer out there is himself a collector and lets that influence his purchasing decisions).
It doesn't have to be that way - a cheap distribution platform with instant world-wide access could be just the thing to get some mainstream appeal for comics again - but for now the major comics companies are sitting tight and seem to be content to just milk their existing collector-heavy readership base until the market finally shrinks to the point where it isn't profitable to print and distribute books anymore.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>bkaul01</author>
	<datestamp>1268644560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The quality of the LCD makes a big difference.  I'll notice eyestrain after a couple hours of reading on my Dell laptop at work.  The HP I have at home, I didn't have a problem with even when using it to write my dissertation: can make it to the next meal/bathroom/etc. break before it becomes an issue.  But having seen the non-backlit e-Ink displays, I can see how they'd eliminate the problem altogether.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The quality of the LCD makes a big difference .
I 'll notice eyestrain after a couple hours of reading on my Dell laptop at work .
The HP I have at home , I did n't have a problem with even when using it to write my dissertation : can make it to the next meal/bathroom/etc .
break before it becomes an issue .
But having seen the non-backlit e-Ink displays , I can see how they 'd eliminate the problem altogether .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The quality of the LCD makes a big difference.
I'll notice eyestrain after a couple hours of reading on my Dell laptop at work.
The HP I have at home, I didn't have a problem with even when using it to write my dissertation: can make it to the next meal/bathroom/etc.
break before it becomes an issue.
But having seen the non-backlit e-Ink displays, I can see how they'd eliminate the problem altogether.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268682360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>By the way, another key advantage of E-Ink is energy consumption: it doesn't use battery when static, and uses quite a small amount of energy to redraw the page. Due to this feature, eBooks can run for weeks or even months on a single charge.</p></div></blockquote><p>Another benefit of this feature is that it can take weeks or even months to render a single video.</p></div>
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<tokenext>By the way , another key advantage of E-Ink is energy consumption : it does n't use battery when static , and uses quite a small amount of energy to redraw the page .
Due to this feature , eBooks can run for weeks or even months on a single charge.Another benefit of this feature is that it can take weeks or even months to render a single video .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By the way, another key advantage of E-Ink is energy consumption: it doesn't use battery when static, and uses quite a small amount of energy to redraw the page.
Due to this feature, eBooks can run for weeks or even months on a single charge.Another benefit of this feature is that it can take weeks or even months to render a single video.
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	<title>Re:Eye strain my hair ass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268685900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You mean the LCD's I read off of 10 hours a day at work are completely unacceptable for reading now?</p></div><p>Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions and preferences and whatever else...  And there's certainly room for individual variation in how your eyes perform at different tasks...</p><p>But, from what I've seen, most of the folks who claim that they're reading for 10 hours a day at work, aren't actually reading for 10 hours a day at work.</p><p>If you actually look at their workflow, it doesn't generally involve staring at a screen containing nothing but text for a full 10 hours.  Usually it involves looking at a screen running some kind of GUI that contains text elements.  Usually it involves navigating through that GUI in order to display different text elements.  Normally it involves looking at various images and diagrams in addition to text.  Normally it involves periodic breaks to type or click buttons or answer the phone or speak with a co-worker or whatever.</p><p>Which is actually pretty similar to what my workflow looks like.  And in the average day I don't have any problem working off my LCD at work for 10 hours either.  But that's a very different experience from when I'm curled up with a good book and reading for fun.</p><p>When I'm reading for fun I'll attempt to remove as many distractions as possible.  I will, hopefully, not be distracted from my book for many hours.  I might very well spend 10 hours staring at text.</p><p>I've been reading ebooks on various devices for years now.  First a Handspring Visor...  Then a Palm PDA...  Then an assortment of netbooks and laptops and desktop computers...  And now I'm reading them on a nook...</p><p>And I'll tell you right now that when I wind up reading something engaging - literally staring at text for multiple hours with no distractions - on an LCD I definitely experience eyestrain.  There have been days when I wound up doing literally what you suggest in your post - staring at text for 10 hours straight - and by the time I get home in the evening my eyes basically refuse to focus.  It becomes impossible to read much of anything.</p><p>No, I don't have some kind of degenerative eye disease...  It's just eye strain, nothing more.  And it can happen reading off of paper or watching TV or anything else.  It just so happens that for me an LCD causes more strain than printed paper, or an e-ink display.</p><p>Now, I'm not going to call you a liar simply because I disagree with you...</p><p>And I personally agree that the Kindle has a less-than-wonderful display - which is why I bought a nook, which has better contrast in my opinion.</p><p>But I suspect that you don't spend quite as much time staring at text on a screen as you suggested in your post.</p></div>
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<tokenext>You mean the LCD 's I read off of 10 hours a day at work are completely unacceptable for reading now ? Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions and preferences and whatever else... And there 's certainly room for individual variation in how your eyes perform at different tasks...But , from what I 've seen , most of the folks who claim that they 're reading for 10 hours a day at work , are n't actually reading for 10 hours a day at work.If you actually look at their workflow , it does n't generally involve staring at a screen containing nothing but text for a full 10 hours .
Usually it involves looking at a screen running some kind of GUI that contains text elements .
Usually it involves navigating through that GUI in order to display different text elements .
Normally it involves looking at various images and diagrams in addition to text .
Normally it involves periodic breaks to type or click buttons or answer the phone or speak with a co-worker or whatever.Which is actually pretty similar to what my workflow looks like .
And in the average day I do n't have any problem working off my LCD at work for 10 hours either .
But that 's a very different experience from when I 'm curled up with a good book and reading for fun.When I 'm reading for fun I 'll attempt to remove as many distractions as possible .
I will , hopefully , not be distracted from my book for many hours .
I might very well spend 10 hours staring at text.I 've been reading ebooks on various devices for years now .
First a Handspring Visor... Then a Palm PDA... Then an assortment of netbooks and laptops and desktop computers... And now I 'm reading them on a nook...And I 'll tell you right now that when I wind up reading something engaging - literally staring at text for multiple hours with no distractions - on an LCD I definitely experience eyestrain .
There have been days when I wound up doing literally what you suggest in your post - staring at text for 10 hours straight - and by the time I get home in the evening my eyes basically refuse to focus .
It becomes impossible to read much of anything.No , I do n't have some kind of degenerative eye disease... It 's just eye strain , nothing more .
And it can happen reading off of paper or watching TV or anything else .
It just so happens that for me an LCD causes more strain than printed paper , or an e-ink display.Now , I 'm not going to call you a liar simply because I disagree with you...And I personally agree that the Kindle has a less-than-wonderful display - which is why I bought a nook , which has better contrast in my opinion.But I suspect that you do n't spend quite as much time staring at text on a screen as you suggested in your post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean the LCD's I read off of 10 hours a day at work are completely unacceptable for reading now?Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions and preferences and whatever else...  And there's certainly room for individual variation in how your eyes perform at different tasks...But, from what I've seen, most of the folks who claim that they're reading for 10 hours a day at work, aren't actually reading for 10 hours a day at work.If you actually look at their workflow, it doesn't generally involve staring at a screen containing nothing but text for a full 10 hours.
Usually it involves looking at a screen running some kind of GUI that contains text elements.
Usually it involves navigating through that GUI in order to display different text elements.
Normally it involves looking at various images and diagrams in addition to text.
Normally it involves periodic breaks to type or click buttons or answer the phone or speak with a co-worker or whatever.Which is actually pretty similar to what my workflow looks like.
And in the average day I don't have any problem working off my LCD at work for 10 hours either.
But that's a very different experience from when I'm curled up with a good book and reading for fun.When I'm reading for fun I'll attempt to remove as many distractions as possible.
I will, hopefully, not be distracted from my book for many hours.
I might very well spend 10 hours staring at text.I've been reading ebooks on various devices for years now.
First a Handspring Visor...  Then a Palm PDA...  Then an assortment of netbooks and laptops and desktop computers...  And now I'm reading them on a nook...And I'll tell you right now that when I wind up reading something engaging - literally staring at text for multiple hours with no distractions - on an LCD I definitely experience eyestrain.
There have been days when I wound up doing literally what you suggest in your post - staring at text for 10 hours straight - and by the time I get home in the evening my eyes basically refuse to focus.
It becomes impossible to read much of anything.No, I don't have some kind of degenerative eye disease...  It's just eye strain, nothing more.
And it can happen reading off of paper or watching TV or anything else.
It just so happens that for me an LCD causes more strain than printed paper, or an e-ink display.Now, I'm not going to call you a liar simply because I disagree with you...And I personally agree that the Kindle has a less-than-wonderful display - which is why I bought a nook, which has better contrast in my opinion.But I suspect that you don't spend quite as much time staring at text on a screen as you suggested in your post.
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	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1268654580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't get eye strain as such, but reading large amounts of text - we're talking a book, not Slashdot, code or a few PDFs - is far less enjoyable on an LCD screen. There's also the point about battery life.</p><p>But still, if you're happy with LCD, think yourself lucky - you can just use any dirt cheap tablet or netbook as an e-reader.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get eye strain as such , but reading large amounts of text - we 're talking a book , not Slashdot , code or a few PDFs - is far less enjoyable on an LCD screen .
There 's also the point about battery life.But still , if you 're happy with LCD , think yourself lucky - you can just use any dirt cheap tablet or netbook as an e-reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get eye strain as such, but reading large amounts of text - we're talking a book, not Slashdot, code or a few PDFs - is far less enjoyable on an LCD screen.
There's also the point about battery life.But still, if you're happy with LCD, think yourself lucky - you can just use any dirt cheap tablet or netbook as an e-reader.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I've got a better idea</title>
	<author>Idbar</author>
	<datestamp>1268655000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Because you can show pictures in color! B&amp;W movies are not that much appealing to people. Color screens can sell as better photo frames, while better B&amp;W screens may not have more market than the one it currently has.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because you can show pictures in color !
B&amp;W movies are not that much appealing to people .
Color screens can sell as better photo frames , while better B&amp;W screens may not have more market than the one it currently has .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because you can show pictures in color!
B&amp;W movies are not that much appealing to people.
Color screens can sell as better photo frames, while better B&amp;W screens may not have more market than the one it currently has.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Eye strain my hair ass</title>
	<author>indiechild</author>
	<datestamp>1268661840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Point taken, though I suspect your eyes would be just as wrecked if you spent 10 hours reading on a Kindle or a real paperback book. At least, my eyes feel like that after a marathon reading session.</p><p>It's important to take breaks, no matter what device/medium you're reading on, and no matter how addictive the book is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Point taken , though I suspect your eyes would be just as wrecked if you spent 10 hours reading on a Kindle or a real paperback book .
At least , my eyes feel like that after a marathon reading session.It 's important to take breaks , no matter what device/medium you 're reading on , and no matter how addictive the book is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Point taken, though I suspect your eyes would be just as wrecked if you spent 10 hours reading on a Kindle or a real paperback book.
At least, my eyes feel like that after a marathon reading session.It's important to take breaks, no matter what device/medium you're reading on, and no matter how addictive the book is.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Bendable</title>
	<author>tsa</author>
	<datestamp>1268678580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A few years ago I saw a demonstration by Philips on TV of a bendable e-ink screen. I think bendability is more important than colour. If the screen is bendable it can behave more like a real book.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A few years ago I saw a demonstration by Philips on TV of a bendable e-ink screen .
I think bendability is more important than colour .
If the screen is bendable it can behave more like a real book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few years ago I saw a demonstration by Philips on TV of a bendable e-ink screen.
I think bendability is more important than colour.
If the screen is bendable it can behave more like a real book.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Comics</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1268683500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If content is moved to this format, you won't have to deal with <strong>horrible collectors</strong> if you want to read back issues.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Worst. Comment. Ever. - Comic Book Guy.</p></div>
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<tokenext>If content is moved to this format , you wo n't have to deal with horrible collectors if you want to read back issues .
Worst. Comment .
Ever. - Comic Book Guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If content is moved to this format, you won't have to deal with horrible collectors if you want to read back issues.
Worst. Comment.
Ever. - Comic Book Guy.
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	<title>Re:Why improve mono, just replace with color ...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268658120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why? Mono is probably a dead end technology.</p></div><p>He&rsquo;s an engineer.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Leaving research exclusively in the hands of engineers, we would have perfectly functioning oil lamps, but no electricity. &mdash; Einstein</p></div></div>
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<tokenext>Why ?
Mono is probably a dead end technology.He    s an engineer .
; ) Leaving research exclusively in the hands of engineers , we would have perfectly functioning oil lamps , but no electricity .
   Einstein</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
Mono is probably a dead end technology.He’s an engineer.
;)Leaving research exclusively in the hands of engineers, we would have perfectly functioning oil lamps, but no electricity.
— Einstein
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	<title>Re:Still not convinced about e-ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268681700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps you are still young ?<br>As for myself, I could always see the refresh rate on CRT displays when it was under 70-75Hz, while other people claimed they see no difference. Therefore, it might be that some people aren't actually as bothered as others are by the displays.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps you are still young ? As for myself , I could always see the refresh rate on CRT displays when it was under 70-75Hz , while other people claimed they see no difference .
Therefore , it might be that some people are n't actually as bothered as others are by the displays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps you are still young ?As for myself, I could always see the refresh rate on CRT displays when it was under 70-75Hz, while other people claimed they see no difference.
Therefore, it might be that some people aren't actually as bothered as others are by the displays.</sentencetext>
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