<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_12_2014222</id>
	<title>Here Come the Linux iPad Clones</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1268385180000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>CWmike writes <i>"You can <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9169839/It\_s\_official\_Apple\_s\_iPad\_now\_available\_for\_pre\_order?source=toc">now pre-order an Apple iPad</a>; but do you really want to, asks Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols. 'I mean, I get why you'd want an iPad. I'd like one too,' he writes. 'But,' he says, 'when I consider that there are soon going to be literally <a href="http://blogs.computerworld.com/15742/here\_comes\_linuxs\_ipad\_clones">dozens of cheaper, Linux-powered iPad devices on the market</a>, I find it a lot easier to resist putting $499 on my credit card. On top of that, Apple will be including DRM on some eBooks and other iPad content. I really, really hate DRM.  All that said, I agree the iPad is really cool. I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9166798/Apple\_s\_iPad\_set\_to\_rock\_e\_reader\_biz\_says\_survey">kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders</a> such as Amazon's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years. How can it not work out this way? For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more. But, and this is the important bit, you don't have to buy an Apple iPad to get all of the iPad's goodies. ARM, a mobile microprocessor power, is predicting that we'll see <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9168418/ARM\_sees\_over\_50\_new\_iPad\_like\_devices\_out\_this\_year">no less than 50 ARM-processor-powered iPad clones</a> by year's end. And, what will they be running? These ARM-powered entertainment tablets <a href="http://blogs.computerworld.com/the\_top\_four\_linux\_netbook\_trends">will all be running Linux</a>.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>CWmike writes " You can now pre-order an Apple iPad ; but do you really want to , asks Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols. 'I mean , I get why you 'd want an iPad .
I 'd like one too, ' he writes .
'But, ' he says , 'when I consider that there are soon going to be literally dozens of cheaper , Linux-powered iPad devices on the market , I find it a lot easier to resist putting $ 499 on my credit card .
On top of that , Apple will be including DRM on some eBooks and other iPad content .
I really , really hate DRM .
All that said , I agree the iPad is really cool .
I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon 's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years .
How can it not work out this way ?
For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more .
But , and this is the important bit , you do n't have to buy an Apple iPad to get all of the iPad 's goodies .
ARM , a mobile microprocessor power , is predicting that we 'll see no less than 50 ARM-processor-powered iPad clones by year 's end .
And , what will they be running ?
These ARM-powered entertainment tablets will all be running Linux .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CWmike writes "You can now pre-order an Apple iPad; but do you really want to, asks Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols. 'I mean, I get why you'd want an iPad.
I'd like one too,' he writes.
'But,' he says, 'when I consider that there are soon going to be literally dozens of cheaper, Linux-powered iPad devices on the market, I find it a lot easier to resist putting $499 on my credit card.
On top of that, Apple will be including DRM on some eBooks and other iPad content.
I really, really hate DRM.
All that said, I agree the iPad is really cool.
I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years.
How can it not work out this way?
For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more.
But, and this is the important bit, you don't have to buy an Apple iPad to get all of the iPad's goodies.
ARM, a mobile microprocessor power, is predicting that we'll see no less than 50 ARM-processor-powered iPad clones by year's end.
And, what will they be running?
These ARM-powered entertainment tablets will all be running Linux.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457108</id>
	<title>ARM tablet</title>
	<author>ChristTrekker</author>
	<datestamp>1268390580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to see a NetBSD powered ARM tablet, myself.  Or ARM netbook.  My guess is you could squeeze it in a smaller footprint, thus have more resources for user apps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to see a NetBSD powered ARM tablet , myself .
Or ARM netbook .
My guess is you could squeeze it in a smaller footprint , thus have more resources for user apps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to see a NetBSD powered ARM tablet, myself.
Or ARM netbook.
My guess is you could squeeze it in a smaller footprint, thus have more resources for user apps.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459726</id>
	<title>Re:It's really all about choice...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268402160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Somehow Apple has managed to convince lots of people that ease of use and hackability are necessarily inversely correlated, which is bizarre considering that Mac OS X itself is an excellent counterexample.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Somehow Apple has managed to convince lots of people that ease of use and hackability are necessarily inversely correlated , which is bizarre considering that Mac OS X itself is an excellent counterexample .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somehow Apple has managed to convince lots of people that ease of use and hackability are necessarily inversely correlated, which is bizarre considering that Mac OS X itself is an excellent counterexample.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456912</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459432</id>
	<title>Re:DRM</title>
	<author>mdarksbane</author>
	<datestamp>1268400720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd also like to see the ebook store that doesn't have DRM'd content. There's plenty of free content if you like commons stuff, and a few individual publishers sell their own things.. but a mainstream, bookstore-like experience? Nada.</p><p>Look, I hate it, too, but it's not an ipad specific fault.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd also like to see the ebook store that does n't have DRM 'd content .
There 's plenty of free content if you like commons stuff , and a few individual publishers sell their own things.. but a mainstream , bookstore-like experience ?
Nada.Look , I hate it , too , but it 's not an ipad specific fault .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd also like to see the ebook store that doesn't have DRM'd content.
There's plenty of free content if you like commons stuff, and a few individual publishers sell their own things.. but a mainstream, bookstore-like experience?
Nada.Look, I hate it, too, but it's not an ipad specific fault.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456710</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457268</id>
	<title>Re:GPS devices</title>
	<author>snspdaarf</author>
	<datestamp>1268391240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agree. I like having dedicated devices. That way, when one goes tits-up I have a fallback position. It's why I go into the back country with a GPS, topo map, and a compass. My phone is just a phone. That's all I need it to do. That's all I <i>want</i> it to do. I am willing to keep up with more gadgets so that I don't have a single point of failure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agree .
I like having dedicated devices .
That way , when one goes tits-up I have a fallback position .
It 's why I go into the back country with a GPS , topo map , and a compass .
My phone is just a phone .
That 's all I need it to do .
That 's all I want it to do .
I am willing to keep up with more gadgets so that I do n't have a single point of failure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agree.
I like having dedicated devices.
That way, when one goes tits-up I have a fallback position.
It's why I go into the back country with a GPS, topo map, and a compass.
My phone is just a phone.
That's all I need it to do.
That's all I want it to do.
I am willing to keep up with more gadgets so that I don't have a single point of failure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456802</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458986</id>
	<title>Where's the epaper</title>
	<author>funkysoulbrother</author>
	<datestamp>1268398860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Until they have epaper, they won't kill ebook readers. Until epaper is faster, they won't have epaper...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Until they have epaper , they wo n't kill ebook readers .
Until epaper is faster , they wo n't have epaper.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until they have epaper, they won't kill ebook readers.
Until epaper is faster, they won't have epaper...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457208</id>
	<title>me too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268390940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want what that guy said, but throw in the web browser, mp3 player, wifi, and bluetooth.</p><p>Extra points for a slide out keyboard like on the n900!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want what that guy said , but throw in the web browser , mp3 player , wifi , and bluetooth.Extra points for a slide out keyboard like on the n900 !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want what that guy said, but throw in the web browser, mp3 player, wifi, and bluetooth.Extra points for a slide out keyboard like on the n900!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456690</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460510</id>
	<title>Why not Android?</title>
	<author>ensiferius</author>
	<datestamp>1268407320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not just base the clones on Android?</p><p>It works with touch interfaces.</p><p>Apple will sue whoever builds them.</p><p>Fun for everybody.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just base the clones on Android ? It works with touch interfaces.Apple will sue whoever builds them.Fun for everybody .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just base the clones on Android?It works with touch interfaces.Apple will sue whoever builds them.Fun for everybody.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459224</id>
	<title>Smart phone way, way better</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1268399880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>A dedicated GPS from a company like Garmin is much better at what it does than a smartphone. Try using your iPhone's GPS to map your location when you're in an area with no cell coverage.</i></p><p>Try?  There is no Try.  There is only <a href="http://www.itopomaps.com/" title="itopomaps.com">Do</a> [itopomaps.com].</p><p>As in I DO download maps into the device before going into the back country.</p><p>Battery life?  It was fine for a three day hike, without needing the battery back I brought (or the Solio solar charger I have which is good since it no longer works).  Granted I used it somewhat sparingly, but I had it whenever I wanted a location check.</p><p><i>When I traveled to Australia a couple years ago I took a dedicated GPS with me and it worked great. If I'd relied on my smartphone I would have had to have paid for a local data plan and prayed that there was coverage everywhere I was going.</i></p><p>When I travel to England shortly and am driving around the countryside, I'll simply download one of many European navigation apps.  I could use Waze, that is free - but frankly the professional applications like <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5343981/the-best-iphone-navigation-app-telenav-vs-navigon-vs-tomtom" title="gizmodo.com">Telenav or Navigon or TomTom</a> [gizmodo.com] are far, far better at directing you when traffic is complex - and none of them require a data plan (Well, Waze would actually but it's nice otherwise).</p><p>And you see, there is the real point to why the iPhone (or other devices like it) beats out the Garmin  - because I don't have to use just the Garmin software.  I can use any number of specialized applications, each tailored to the purpose to which they are built for.  And if I really don't like how any of them work, I can build my own.  People complain about how closed the iPhone is for development but it rather handily beats out the Garmin for an open platform to develop for!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A dedicated GPS from a company like Garmin is much better at what it does than a smartphone .
Try using your iPhone 's GPS to map your location when you 're in an area with no cell coverage.Try ?
There is no Try .
There is only Do [ itopomaps.com ] .As in I DO download maps into the device before going into the back country.Battery life ?
It was fine for a three day hike , without needing the battery back I brought ( or the Solio solar charger I have which is good since it no longer works ) .
Granted I used it somewhat sparingly , but I had it whenever I wanted a location check.When I traveled to Australia a couple years ago I took a dedicated GPS with me and it worked great .
If I 'd relied on my smartphone I would have had to have paid for a local data plan and prayed that there was coverage everywhere I was going.When I travel to England shortly and am driving around the countryside , I 'll simply download one of many European navigation apps .
I could use Waze , that is free - but frankly the professional applications like Telenav or Navigon or TomTom [ gizmodo.com ] are far , far better at directing you when traffic is complex - and none of them require a data plan ( Well , Waze would actually but it 's nice otherwise ) .And you see , there is the real point to why the iPhone ( or other devices like it ) beats out the Garmin - because I do n't have to use just the Garmin software .
I can use any number of specialized applications , each tailored to the purpose to which they are built for .
And if I really do n't like how any of them work , I can build my own .
People complain about how closed the iPhone is for development but it rather handily beats out the Garmin for an open platform to develop for !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A dedicated GPS from a company like Garmin is much better at what it does than a smartphone.
Try using your iPhone's GPS to map your location when you're in an area with no cell coverage.Try?
There is no Try.
There is only Do [itopomaps.com].As in I DO download maps into the device before going into the back country.Battery life?
It was fine for a three day hike, without needing the battery back I brought (or the Solio solar charger I have which is good since it no longer works).
Granted I used it somewhat sparingly, but I had it whenever I wanted a location check.When I traveled to Australia a couple years ago I took a dedicated GPS with me and it worked great.
If I'd relied on my smartphone I would have had to have paid for a local data plan and prayed that there was coverage everywhere I was going.When I travel to England shortly and am driving around the countryside, I'll simply download one of many European navigation apps.
I could use Waze, that is free - but frankly the professional applications like Telenav or Navigon or TomTom [gizmodo.com] are far, far better at directing you when traffic is complex - and none of them require a data plan (Well, Waze would actually but it's nice otherwise).And you see, there is the real point to why the iPhone (or other devices like it) beats out the Garmin  - because I don't have to use just the Garmin software.
I can use any number of specialized applications, each tailored to the purpose to which they are built for.
And if I really don't like how any of them work, I can build my own.
People complain about how closed the iPhone is for development but it rather handily beats out the Garmin for an open platform to develop for!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457114</id>
	<title>Re:ergh</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1268390640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, I'm using an inferior LCD screen instead.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I 'm using an inferior LCD screen instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I'm using an inferior LCD screen instead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456940</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458166</id>
	<title>Re:Hardware clones - yes. Clones .. no</title>
	<author>The End Of Days</author>
	<datestamp>1268395380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whoever hacks up the iPhone to connect to this plan is going to be an Official Internet Hero.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoever hacks up the iPhone to connect to this plan is going to be an Official Internet Hero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoever hacks up the iPhone to connect to this plan is going to be an Official Internet Hero.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456704</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31465334</id>
	<title>Re:2010</title>
	<author>pablo\_mccombs</author>
	<datestamp>1268508720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>couchtop</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>couchtop</tokentext>
<sentencetext>couchtop</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457828</id>
	<title>Re:Only if screens are as eye-friendly as Kindle's</title>
	<author>rolfwind</author>
	<datestamp>1268393580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I owned a 6" Kindle 2 for a while.  E-ink has promise, but it's vastly overrated right now imo.  I used to think e-ink was all that before getting one.  The major problem I had with the Kindle 2 was contrast.  It was black and white.  It was dark grey on medium/light grey/beige.  Yuck.  I really hated it.  Same with the Sony PRS reader I saw.</p><p>The nice thing with the iPad is that it has a IPS screen rather than a run-of-the-mill screen (nice), but on top of that, an ambient light sensor, which imho is what is missing on most desktop monitors.  I hate looking at monitors where they don't match the surrounding rooms light level in any way, the worst for me is being on a computer in a pitch black room (which may be why movie theater also leaves the light on dimmed during a movie and not shut them off completely).</p><p>After that point, what is the different if the screen is backlit or reflective like e-ink?  Either way, photons hit your eyes either originating from or reflecting off that surface.  Even with a ambient sensor, I wouldn't be on a computer in a completely darkened room, but then again, you couldn't read the e-ink screen in such a scenario either.  Now, if would be nice if it were an OLED screen too, where the blacks aren't dark grey and the contrast was through the roof - but I guess we'll have to wait.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I owned a 6 " Kindle 2 for a while .
E-ink has promise , but it 's vastly overrated right now imo .
I used to think e-ink was all that before getting one .
The major problem I had with the Kindle 2 was contrast .
It was black and white .
It was dark grey on medium/light grey/beige .
Yuck. I really hated it .
Same with the Sony PRS reader I saw.The nice thing with the iPad is that it has a IPS screen rather than a run-of-the-mill screen ( nice ) , but on top of that , an ambient light sensor , which imho is what is missing on most desktop monitors .
I hate looking at monitors where they do n't match the surrounding rooms light level in any way , the worst for me is being on a computer in a pitch black room ( which may be why movie theater also leaves the light on dimmed during a movie and not shut them off completely ) .After that point , what is the different if the screen is backlit or reflective like e-ink ?
Either way , photons hit your eyes either originating from or reflecting off that surface .
Even with a ambient sensor , I would n't be on a computer in a completely darkened room , but then again , you could n't read the e-ink screen in such a scenario either .
Now , if would be nice if it were an OLED screen too , where the blacks are n't dark grey and the contrast was through the roof - but I guess we 'll have to wait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I owned a 6" Kindle 2 for a while.
E-ink has promise, but it's vastly overrated right now imo.
I used to think e-ink was all that before getting one.
The major problem I had with the Kindle 2 was contrast.
It was black and white.
It was dark grey on medium/light grey/beige.
Yuck.  I really hated it.
Same with the Sony PRS reader I saw.The nice thing with the iPad is that it has a IPS screen rather than a run-of-the-mill screen (nice), but on top of that, an ambient light sensor, which imho is what is missing on most desktop monitors.
I hate looking at monitors where they don't match the surrounding rooms light level in any way, the worst for me is being on a computer in a pitch black room (which may be why movie theater also leaves the light on dimmed during a movie and not shut them off completely).After that point, what is the different if the screen is backlit or reflective like e-ink?
Either way, photons hit your eyes either originating from or reflecting off that surface.
Even with a ambient sensor, I wouldn't be on a computer in a completely darkened room, but then again, you couldn't read the e-ink screen in such a scenario either.
Now, if would be nice if it were an OLED screen too, where the blacks aren't dark grey and the contrast was through the roof - but I guess we'll have to wait.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459248</id>
	<title>Re:But what books?</title>
	<author>NatasRevol</author>
	<datestamp>1268400000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does this answer your question?</p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&amp;docId=1000301301" title="amazon.com">http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&amp;docId=1000301301</a> [amazon.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this answer your question ? http : //www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html ? ie = UTF8&amp;docId = 1000301301 [ amazon.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this answer your question?http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&amp;docId=1000301301 [amazon.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457124</id>
	<title>Always tradeoffs</title>
	<author>proxima</author>
	<datestamp>1268390640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a big fan of Linux (been running it as my primary OS for over a decade), yet I'm still getting an iPad.  I don't like Apple's closed nature at all, but I've been on the lookout for a way to nicely read (and annotate) PDFs since the Kindle DX came out.  My price point is about $500, and right up until they announced the price I thought that there was no way Apple would have the cheapest model be that price.  I really like eink screens, but they seem better suited to linear reading of books rather than referencing PDFs.</p><p>The one really nice thing about the Apple store model and Apple's general market share is that you can be sure there will be serious app support.  My Nokia phone (e63) runs Symbian and lets me run whatever I want on it, but most of the software out there (including the included software) is really bad.  So it's not enough for a  company (especially a small one) to release a device - it needs to have good software.  The Barnes and Noble Nook is another example - great hardware (relative to the Kindle), but the initial software was terrible (didn't even support bookmarks after turning it off!).</p><p>Real tablets - that is, computers running full OSes like Windows or Linux - just aren't compelling to me.  I want something thin and light for reading with good battery life, not a replacement for my 14" laptop.  Aside from that, the Linux software I use would be absolutely horrid with a touch screen (you'd basically need a stylus for everything).  I have some hope for various Android devices, but as of January most of these were still basically rough prototypes.</p><p>That said, it was clear when the iPad was announced that this wasn't a product for everybody.  Not everyone wants or needs a separate device primarily for consuming media.  I suspect the keyboard will be painful for all but the shortest of sessions; even movie watching will be somewhat awkward without a case helping to hold it in place at a good angle.  Some people do legitimately need multitasking support the iPad doesn't provide (at least not yet).  But relative to the Kindle DX, it seems much more compelling for my use.  This is especially due to the app support: <a href="http://mekentosj.com/papers/" title="mekentosj.com">two</a> [mekentosj.com] <a href="http://www.ajidev.com/annotater/" title="ajidev.com">companies</a> [ajidev.com] have already announced iPad-specific PDF readers as replacements for the built-in reader (and the latter program supports annotations).</p><p>Apple's mobile devices get good app support because the install base is large and the number of devices are small.  As I understand it, UI layout is done by pixel, allowing for very precise placement but horrible problems if you try to support many resolutions.  With Android on everything from 3" smartphones to 5" Dell minis to 10" netbooks/tablets all at various resolutions even within a screen size (see, e.g. the Droid's awesome resolution), it's going to be tricky.</p><p>As an ereader (provided you're okay with the better-than-netbook-worse-than-eink IPS screen), the iPad looks almost ideal.  You get Apple's bookstore, BN's bookstore (they officially announced they'll have an ipad-specific version ready about the time of the release), and likely an Amazon Kindle app (among other smaller ebook stores).  If they drop the price on a Nook or Kindle within a year or two I can totally see picking one of those up to complement the iPad for pleasure reading.  The Kindle app (and probably the BN app, I'm not sure), keeps track of what page you're on.  You use any device and pick up where you left off.  There is not (yet) any BN or Kindle app for Android or Linux/X11.  If you don't like DRM books, that's fine - you'll be able to read whatever non-DRM ebooks you can find on the iPad (as opposed to more limited ebook readers).</p><p>As for the app store, I agree that Apple's effective censorship is very annoying.  I'd love to have ssh/scp and a few other apps without needing to jailbreak the device.  At this point Apple can't just open it up though, they'd get a lot of flack for that.  Instead, they need a way out; I'd love to see them make</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a big fan of Linux ( been running it as my primary OS for over a decade ) , yet I 'm still getting an iPad .
I do n't like Apple 's closed nature at all , but I 've been on the lookout for a way to nicely read ( and annotate ) PDFs since the Kindle DX came out .
My price point is about $ 500 , and right up until they announced the price I thought that there was no way Apple would have the cheapest model be that price .
I really like eink screens , but they seem better suited to linear reading of books rather than referencing PDFs.The one really nice thing about the Apple store model and Apple 's general market share is that you can be sure there will be serious app support .
My Nokia phone ( e63 ) runs Symbian and lets me run whatever I want on it , but most of the software out there ( including the included software ) is really bad .
So it 's not enough for a company ( especially a small one ) to release a device - it needs to have good software .
The Barnes and Noble Nook is another example - great hardware ( relative to the Kindle ) , but the initial software was terrible ( did n't even support bookmarks after turning it off !
) .Real tablets - that is , computers running full OSes like Windows or Linux - just are n't compelling to me .
I want something thin and light for reading with good battery life , not a replacement for my 14 " laptop .
Aside from that , the Linux software I use would be absolutely horrid with a touch screen ( you 'd basically need a stylus for everything ) .
I have some hope for various Android devices , but as of January most of these were still basically rough prototypes.That said , it was clear when the iPad was announced that this was n't a product for everybody .
Not everyone wants or needs a separate device primarily for consuming media .
I suspect the keyboard will be painful for all but the shortest of sessions ; even movie watching will be somewhat awkward without a case helping to hold it in place at a good angle .
Some people do legitimately need multitasking support the iPad does n't provide ( at least not yet ) .
But relative to the Kindle DX , it seems much more compelling for my use .
This is especially due to the app support : two [ mekentosj.com ] companies [ ajidev.com ] have already announced iPad-specific PDF readers as replacements for the built-in reader ( and the latter program supports annotations ) .Apple 's mobile devices get good app support because the install base is large and the number of devices are small .
As I understand it , UI layout is done by pixel , allowing for very precise placement but horrible problems if you try to support many resolutions .
With Android on everything from 3 " smartphones to 5 " Dell minis to 10 " netbooks/tablets all at various resolutions even within a screen size ( see , e.g .
the Droid 's awesome resolution ) , it 's going to be tricky.As an ereader ( provided you 're okay with the better-than-netbook-worse-than-eink IPS screen ) , the iPad looks almost ideal .
You get Apple 's bookstore , BN 's bookstore ( they officially announced they 'll have an ipad-specific version ready about the time of the release ) , and likely an Amazon Kindle app ( among other smaller ebook stores ) .
If they drop the price on a Nook or Kindle within a year or two I can totally see picking one of those up to complement the iPad for pleasure reading .
The Kindle app ( and probably the BN app , I 'm not sure ) , keeps track of what page you 're on .
You use any device and pick up where you left off .
There is not ( yet ) any BN or Kindle app for Android or Linux/X11 .
If you do n't like DRM books , that 's fine - you 'll be able to read whatever non-DRM ebooks you can find on the iPad ( as opposed to more limited ebook readers ) .As for the app store , I agree that Apple 's effective censorship is very annoying .
I 'd love to have ssh/scp and a few other apps without needing to jailbreak the device .
At this point Apple ca n't just open it up though , they 'd get a lot of flack for that .
Instead , they need a way out ; I 'd love to see them make</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a big fan of Linux (been running it as my primary OS for over a decade), yet I'm still getting an iPad.
I don't like Apple's closed nature at all, but I've been on the lookout for a way to nicely read (and annotate) PDFs since the Kindle DX came out.
My price point is about $500, and right up until they announced the price I thought that there was no way Apple would have the cheapest model be that price.
I really like eink screens, but they seem better suited to linear reading of books rather than referencing PDFs.The one really nice thing about the Apple store model and Apple's general market share is that you can be sure there will be serious app support.
My Nokia phone (e63) runs Symbian and lets me run whatever I want on it, but most of the software out there (including the included software) is really bad.
So it's not enough for a  company (especially a small one) to release a device - it needs to have good software.
The Barnes and Noble Nook is another example - great hardware (relative to the Kindle), but the initial software was terrible (didn't even support bookmarks after turning it off!
).Real tablets - that is, computers running full OSes like Windows or Linux - just aren't compelling to me.
I want something thin and light for reading with good battery life, not a replacement for my 14" laptop.
Aside from that, the Linux software I use would be absolutely horrid with a touch screen (you'd basically need a stylus for everything).
I have some hope for various Android devices, but as of January most of these were still basically rough prototypes.That said, it was clear when the iPad was announced that this wasn't a product for everybody.
Not everyone wants or needs a separate device primarily for consuming media.
I suspect the keyboard will be painful for all but the shortest of sessions; even movie watching will be somewhat awkward without a case helping to hold it in place at a good angle.
Some people do legitimately need multitasking support the iPad doesn't provide (at least not yet).
But relative to the Kindle DX, it seems much more compelling for my use.
This is especially due to the app support: two [mekentosj.com] companies [ajidev.com] have already announced iPad-specific PDF readers as replacements for the built-in reader (and the latter program supports annotations).Apple's mobile devices get good app support because the install base is large and the number of devices are small.
As I understand it, UI layout is done by pixel, allowing for very precise placement but horrible problems if you try to support many resolutions.
With Android on everything from 3" smartphones to 5" Dell minis to 10" netbooks/tablets all at various resolutions even within a screen size (see, e.g.
the Droid's awesome resolution), it's going to be tricky.As an ereader (provided you're okay with the better-than-netbook-worse-than-eink IPS screen), the iPad looks almost ideal.
You get Apple's bookstore, BN's bookstore (they officially announced they'll have an ipad-specific version ready about the time of the release), and likely an Amazon Kindle app (among other smaller ebook stores).
If they drop the price on a Nook or Kindle within a year or two I can totally see picking one of those up to complement the iPad for pleasure reading.
The Kindle app (and probably the BN app, I'm not sure), keeps track of what page you're on.
You use any device and pick up where you left off.
There is not (yet) any BN or Kindle app for Android or Linux/X11.
If you don't like DRM books, that's fine - you'll be able to read whatever non-DRM ebooks you can find on the iPad (as opposed to more limited ebook readers).As for the app store, I agree that Apple's effective censorship is very annoying.
I'd love to have ssh/scp and a few other apps without needing to jailbreak the device.
At this point Apple can't just open it up though, they'd get a lot of flack for that.
Instead, they need a way out; I'd love to see them make</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457048</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268390400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Translation: "I want to pay 1/5 the price for 1/100 the functionality.  I'm a real economic whiz."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Translation : " I want to pay 1/5 the price for 1/100 the functionality .
I 'm a real economic whiz .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Translation: "I want to pay 1/5 the price for 1/100 the functionality.
I'm a real economic whiz.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460774</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268409480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Unless the software on the Linux devices has been rewritten for a touch interface I don't see why they're worth bothering with.</p></div><p>Like Android apps perhaps? Yeah, never happen.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless the software on the Linux devices has been rewritten for a touch interface I do n't see why they 're worth bothering with.Like Android apps perhaps ?
Yeah , never happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless the software on the Linux devices has been rewritten for a touch interface I don't see why they're worth bothering with.Like Android apps perhaps?
Yeah, never happen.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31469234</id>
	<title>The iPad as auxiliary musical device</title>
	<author>black88</author>
	<datestamp>1268495760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I owned an iPod Touch,  the most use,  outside of the audio player,  was for music sequencer and synthesizer apps,  and I cannot wait to use the iPad as part of my musical gear setup.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I owned an iPod Touch , the most use , outside of the audio player , was for music sequencer and synthesizer apps , and I can not wait to use the iPad as part of my musical gear setup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I owned an iPod Touch,  the most use,  outside of the audio player,  was for music sequencer and synthesizer apps,  and I cannot wait to use the iPad as part of my musical gear setup.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457034</id>
	<title>Re:Awesome - crappy Linux Gui design with a tablet</title>
	<author>waambulance</author>
	<datestamp>1268390280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i cant wait.

a decent gui for my cheetos-stained fingers typing out shellcode while watching the newest episode of The Bachelor.

i dont even have to leave my bed now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>i cant wait .
a decent gui for my cheetos-stained fingers typing out shellcode while watching the newest episode of The Bachelor .
i dont even have to leave my bed now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i cant wait.
a decent gui for my cheetos-stained fingers typing out shellcode while watching the newest episode of The Bachelor.
i dont even have to leave my bed now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456912</id>
	<title>It's really all about choice...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268389860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I pre-ordered the iPad today.  Does it matter to you?  Probably not.  Does it matter to me that you may not?  Probably not.  It's all about what people like.  If I used Linux as a desktop OS, I probably wouldn't purchase one.  I currently use Mac OS X, and have an iPhone, and would prefer to have a consistent user experience.

Does that mean I hate linux or Windows?  No.  Well, maybe Windows<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)

The truth is I use linux for the 100 database servers I design and manage at work.

But at the end of the day, I like OS X for my desktop (and I have the money to purchase Apple and Apple related products), because it is sleek, elegant, and it does everything I still want it to do.  My days of spending endless hours of tweaking my hardware and software are  behind me.  I built hundreds of systems for me, my family, my customers over the years, and the thrill of doing that is long gone.

At the end of the day, I just want to sit down to a computer experience that I don't *have* to mess with.  I don't want to keep up with kernel updates, or distro updates linux, or virus updates on Windows.  If that is your cup of tea, that is wonderful, and I won't knock you for it.  But don't put down the ppl that want an iPad at the end of the day either.  It's their choice, just like it's your choice not to purchase one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I pre-ordered the iPad today .
Does it matter to you ?
Probably not .
Does it matter to me that you may not ?
Probably not .
It 's all about what people like .
If I used Linux as a desktop OS , I probably would n't purchase one .
I currently use Mac OS X , and have an iPhone , and would prefer to have a consistent user experience .
Does that mean I hate linux or Windows ?
No. Well , maybe Windows : - ) The truth is I use linux for the 100 database servers I design and manage at work .
But at the end of the day , I like OS X for my desktop ( and I have the money to purchase Apple and Apple related products ) , because it is sleek , elegant , and it does everything I still want it to do .
My days of spending endless hours of tweaking my hardware and software are behind me .
I built hundreds of systems for me , my family , my customers over the years , and the thrill of doing that is long gone .
At the end of the day , I just want to sit down to a computer experience that I do n't * have * to mess with .
I do n't want to keep up with kernel updates , or distro updates linux , or virus updates on Windows .
If that is your cup of tea , that is wonderful , and I wo n't knock you for it .
But do n't put down the ppl that want an iPad at the end of the day either .
It 's their choice , just like it 's your choice not to purchase one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I pre-ordered the iPad today.
Does it matter to you?
Probably not.
Does it matter to me that you may not?
Probably not.
It's all about what people like.
If I used Linux as a desktop OS, I probably wouldn't purchase one.
I currently use Mac OS X, and have an iPhone, and would prefer to have a consistent user experience.
Does that mean I hate linux or Windows?
No.  Well, maybe Windows :-)

The truth is I use linux for the 100 database servers I design and manage at work.
But at the end of the day, I like OS X for my desktop (and I have the money to purchase Apple and Apple related products), because it is sleek, elegant, and it does everything I still want it to do.
My days of spending endless hours of tweaking my hardware and software are  behind me.
I built hundreds of systems for me, my family, my customers over the years, and the thrill of doing that is long gone.
At the end of the day, I just want to sit down to a computer experience that I don't *have* to mess with.
I don't want to keep up with kernel updates, or distro updates linux, or virus updates on Windows.
If that is your cup of tea, that is wonderful, and I won't knock you for it.
But don't put down the ppl that want an iPad at the end of the day either.
It's their choice, just like it's your choice not to purchase one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458244</id>
	<title>Re:Only if screens are as eye-friendly as Kindle's</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268395860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find people complaining about LCDs for reading hilarious. I mean seriously that's what was being advertised when LCDs first came out against CRTs</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find people complaining about LCDs for reading hilarious .
I mean seriously that 's what was being advertised when LCDs first came out against CRTs</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find people complaining about LCDs for reading hilarious.
I mean seriously that's what was being advertised when LCDs first came out against CRTs</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31461576</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268416500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree, but if you've never owned an e-ink device, you'd be disappointed in its responsiveness and its lower light readability. I guess for $100 you couldn't complain too much, but technical PDFs need more processing power than these little devices have. They also need to be formatted to be readable often. A 8x11 page looks very small on a 5 inch screen.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/2 cents</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , but if you 've never owned an e-ink device , you 'd be disappointed in its responsiveness and its lower light readability .
I guess for $ 100 you could n't complain too much , but technical PDFs need more processing power than these little devices have .
They also need to be formatted to be readable often .
A 8x11 page looks very small on a 5 inch screen .
/2 cents</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, but if you've never owned an e-ink device, you'd be disappointed in its responsiveness and its lower light readability.
I guess for $100 you couldn't complain too much, but technical PDFs need more processing power than these little devices have.
They also need to be formatted to be readable often.
A 8x11 page looks very small on a 5 inch screen.
/2 cents</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456868</id>
	<title>Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1268389680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Unless the software on the Linux devices has been rewritten for a touch interface I don't see why they're worth bothering with.</p></div><p>Adapting a mouse app for touch control has two major steps: 1. eliminate anything requiring a hover, and 2. make the controls big so that they're easier to hit. Or what am I missing?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless the software on the Linux devices has been rewritten for a touch interface I do n't see why they 're worth bothering with.Adapting a mouse app for touch control has two major steps : 1. eliminate anything requiring a hover , and 2. make the controls big so that they 're easier to hit .
Or what am I missing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless the software on the Linux devices has been rewritten for a touch interface I don't see why they're worth bothering with.Adapting a mouse app for touch control has two major steps: 1. eliminate anything requiring a hover, and 2. make the controls big so that they're easier to hit.
Or what am I missing?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31462382</id>
	<title>Kill off e-ink readers? No.</title>
	<author>aussersterne</author>
	<datestamp>1268513460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My wife and I own two e-ink readers, a Kindle and a Sony PRS-300. Mine has over 800 books in it, and I read constantly with it. She has a netbook. I have a Thinkpad and an iPhone.</p><p>Neither of us has real interest in an iPad, nor would we purchase it instead of an e-ink reader if we had it to do all over again.</p><p>It's a computer, not a book. A Kindle is a book, not a computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife and I own two e-ink readers , a Kindle and a Sony PRS-300 .
Mine has over 800 books in it , and I read constantly with it .
She has a netbook .
I have a Thinkpad and an iPhone.Neither of us has real interest in an iPad , nor would we purchase it instead of an e-ink reader if we had it to do all over again.It 's a computer , not a book .
A Kindle is a book , not a computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife and I own two e-ink readers, a Kindle and a Sony PRS-300.
Mine has over 800 books in it, and I read constantly with it.
She has a netbook.
I have a Thinkpad and an iPhone.Neither of us has real interest in an iPad, nor would we purchase it instead of an e-ink reader if we had it to do all over again.It's a computer, not a book.
A Kindle is a book, not a computer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457134</id>
	<title>Re:DRM</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1268390700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That reasoning excludes all kinds of things like: DVD's and all DVD players [sure they play non-DRMed DVD's, but they have support for DRM, so they're bad], the Kindle and most other e-book readers, as most of the mainstream ones have support for epub 'books' that have DRM, PDF's [as they support DRM], VCR's [macrovision], anything that connects between your cable outlet and your TV that supports HD content, and your HDTV.</p><p>Avoiding buying ebooks from iTunes to put on your iPad is a reasonable argument.  But not buying a device because it has support for both drm'ed and non-drm'ed content is well, kinda crazy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That reasoning excludes all kinds of things like : DVD 's and all DVD players [ sure they play non-DRMed DVD 's , but they have support for DRM , so they 're bad ] , the Kindle and most other e-book readers , as most of the mainstream ones have support for epub 'books ' that have DRM , PDF 's [ as they support DRM ] , VCR 's [ macrovision ] , anything that connects between your cable outlet and your TV that supports HD content , and your HDTV.Avoiding buying ebooks from iTunes to put on your iPad is a reasonable argument .
But not buying a device because it has support for both drm'ed and non-drm'ed content is well , kinda crazy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That reasoning excludes all kinds of things like: DVD's and all DVD players [sure they play non-DRMed DVD's, but they have support for DRM, so they're bad], the Kindle and most other e-book readers, as most of the mainstream ones have support for epub 'books' that have DRM, PDF's [as they support DRM], VCR's [macrovision], anything that connects between your cable outlet and your TV that supports HD content, and your HDTV.Avoiding buying ebooks from iTunes to put on your iPad is a reasonable argument.
But not buying a device because it has support for both drm'ed and non-drm'ed content is well, kinda crazy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31461640</id>
	<title>Missing the point, and clones may not be cheaper</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1268417160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The point of the iPad is not ARM, or flash storage, or Wi-Fi/Bluetooth, or 3G. Yes, you can get all of those parts from someone else. And you can replace OS X with Linux. But nobody but Apple has built the layer of software on top of that, which is completely lacking from Linux. And nobody but Apple has built a 3rd party software library like App Store. And nobody else has created something where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, which iPad clearly is.</p><p>Also, the blas&#233; prediction that Linux versions will be cheaper is very optimistic. If you spend $50 less than an iPad 3G right now you get a Nexus One with hardly any storage. Even if you skimp on the software, it's very hard to get under the $500 price point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The point of the iPad is not ARM , or flash storage , or Wi-Fi/Bluetooth , or 3G .
Yes , you can get all of those parts from someone else .
And you can replace OS X with Linux .
But nobody but Apple has built the layer of software on top of that , which is completely lacking from Linux .
And nobody but Apple has built a 3rd party software library like App Store .
And nobody else has created something where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts , which iPad clearly is.Also , the blas   prediction that Linux versions will be cheaper is very optimistic .
If you spend $ 50 less than an iPad 3G right now you get a Nexus One with hardly any storage .
Even if you skimp on the software , it 's very hard to get under the $ 500 price point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point of the iPad is not ARM, or flash storage, or Wi-Fi/Bluetooth, or 3G.
Yes, you can get all of those parts from someone else.
And you can replace OS X with Linux.
But nobody but Apple has built the layer of software on top of that, which is completely lacking from Linux.
And nobody but Apple has built a 3rd party software library like App Store.
And nobody else has created something where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, which iPad clearly is.Also, the blasé prediction that Linux versions will be cheaper is very optimistic.
If you spend $50 less than an iPad 3G right now you get a Nexus One with hardly any storage.
Even if you skimp on the software, it's very hard to get under the $500 price point.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456932</id>
	<title>iPad is not an eBook reader killer</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1268389980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Backlit LCD displays don't work very well in direct sunlight. Reflective eInk displays do just fine. Take your iPad to the beach for reading this summer and tell me how it works out for you. Now, if they put both an eInk display and a backlit LCD in the same device, then that would rock both for reading and for watching videos (isn't there already one device that does that?), and that might signal the death of the dedicated eBook reader.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Backlit LCD displays do n't work very well in direct sunlight .
Reflective eInk displays do just fine .
Take your iPad to the beach for reading this summer and tell me how it works out for you .
Now , if they put both an eInk display and a backlit LCD in the same device , then that would rock both for reading and for watching videos ( is n't there already one device that does that ?
) , and that might signal the death of the dedicated eBook reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Backlit LCD displays don't work very well in direct sunlight.
Reflective eInk displays do just fine.
Take your iPad to the beach for reading this summer and tell me how it works out for you.
Now, if they put both an eInk display and a backlit LCD in the same device, then that would rock both for reading and for watching videos (isn't there already one device that does that?
), and that might signal the death of the dedicated eBook reader.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457922</id>
	<title>Why do people think tablets are the same as eInk?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268394060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously it baffles me.  Even if you can't see the difference (and seriously, you must be blind if you can't), the battery life is an order of magnitude different.  I have no idea what the iPad runs for on a single charge (and what's more, I don't give a ****), but seriously it's not a couple weeks of use.</p><p>Not to mention the lack of eyestrain, etc. from an eBook reader with eInk, yeah, there's no way a tablet is going to replace many single purpose devices.  I bet my Cowon A3 eats the iPad's lunch on media playback too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously it baffles me .
Even if you ca n't see the difference ( and seriously , you must be blind if you ca n't ) , the battery life is an order of magnitude different .
I have no idea what the iPad runs for on a single charge ( and what 's more , I do n't give a * * * * ) , but seriously it 's not a couple weeks of use.Not to mention the lack of eyestrain , etc .
from an eBook reader with eInk , yeah , there 's no way a tablet is going to replace many single purpose devices .
I bet my Cowon A3 eats the iPad 's lunch on media playback too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously it baffles me.
Even if you can't see the difference (and seriously, you must be blind if you can't), the battery life is an order of magnitude different.
I have no idea what the iPad runs for on a single charge (and what's more, I don't give a ****), but seriously it's not a couple weeks of use.Not to mention the lack of eyestrain, etc.
from an eBook reader with eInk, yeah, there's no way a tablet is going to replace many single purpose devices.
I bet my Cowon A3 eats the iPad's lunch on media playback too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31462792</id>
	<title>Re:$30 Power cord?</title>
	<author>JonJ</author>
	<datestamp>1268478300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, they do not charge extra for the power cord, it's listed in the tech specs. I cannot understand why they still let Nichols comment on anything, he's clueless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , they do not charge extra for the power cord , it 's listed in the tech specs .
I can not understand why they still let Nichols comment on anything , he 's clueless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, they do not charge extra for the power cord, it's listed in the tech specs.
I cannot understand why they still let Nichols comment on anything, he's clueless.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457266</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457168</id>
	<title>Re:DRM</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268390880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://xkcd.com/488/" title="xkcd.com" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/488/</a> [xkcd.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //xkcd.com/488/ [ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://xkcd.com/488/ [xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456710</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31463600</id>
	<title>Re:It's really all about choice...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268492340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like that my iPhone works flawlessly, and that apps don't interrupt phone calls, and that it doesn't crash or lag at any time. The same cannot be said about Android, most people seem to junk their phones up with a dozen daemons and get a day of battery life at most.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like that my iPhone works flawlessly , and that apps do n't interrupt phone calls , and that it does n't crash or lag at any time .
The same can not be said about Android , most people seem to junk their phones up with a dozen daemons and get a day of battery life at most .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like that my iPhone works flawlessly, and that apps don't interrupt phone calls, and that it doesn't crash or lag at any time.
The same cannot be said about Android, most people seem to junk their phones up with a dozen daemons and get a day of battery life at most.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459726</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458646</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, where are they???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268397480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.entourageedge.com/devices/entourage-edge.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.entourageedge.com/devices/entourage-edge.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.entourageedge.com/devices/entourage-edge.html</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456822</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458770</id>
	<title>I heartily disagree with this guy.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268397960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>He said "For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more."
<p>1.  Apple is and has NEVER been the low price provider.  They will never undercut anyone.
</p><p>2.  Apple clones tend to be cheaper, but they never become killer products.  If you want an apple like idea you pay up for the original  See the itune.
</p><p>3.  His major belief, that tablet computers will continue to get cheaper is true, <b>BUT SO WILL THE EREADERS.</b>  This guy is comparing the newest tablet to a year old technology. Already there is talk of a new chip that will bring the costs of ereaders down to $100 with 12 months.  The apple product will continue to be around $500, while their clones may hit $300.
</p><p>At heart an ereader is a MUCH simpler device than a tablet. They need minimal screens, minimal internet connection speeds, minimal everything.  Right now it LOOKS like the ereader is close in price to a netbook becaue you are ignoring the ereader's major benefit - long battery life.
</p><p>In conclusion, no, Apple will definitely NOT undercut the ereaders.   Neither will the apple clones.   Ereaders is a product that is here to stay and their price will continue to drop quicker than tablet PCS do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He said " For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more .
" 1 .
Apple is and has NEVER been the low price provider .
They will never undercut anyone .
2. Apple clones tend to be cheaper , but they never become killer products .
If you want an apple like idea you pay up for the original See the itune .
3. His major belief , that tablet computers will continue to get cheaper is true , BUT SO WILL THE EREADERS .
This guy is comparing the newest tablet to a year old technology .
Already there is talk of a new chip that will bring the costs of ereaders down to $ 100 with 12 months .
The apple product will continue to be around $ 500 , while their clones may hit $ 300 .
At heart an ereader is a MUCH simpler device than a tablet .
They need minimal screens , minimal internet connection speeds , minimal everything .
Right now it LOOKS like the ereader is close in price to a netbook becaue you are ignoring the ereader 's major benefit - long battery life .
In conclusion , no , Apple will definitely NOT undercut the ereaders .
Neither will the apple clones .
Ereaders is a product that is here to stay and their price will continue to drop quicker than tablet PCS do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He said "For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more.
"
1.
Apple is and has NEVER been the low price provider.
They will never undercut anyone.
2.  Apple clones tend to be cheaper, but they never become killer products.
If you want an apple like idea you pay up for the original  See the itune.
3.  His major belief, that tablet computers will continue to get cheaper is true, BUT SO WILL THE EREADERS.
This guy is comparing the newest tablet to a year old technology.
Already there is talk of a new chip that will bring the costs of ereaders down to $100 with 12 months.
The apple product will continue to be around $500, while their clones may hit $300.
At heart an ereader is a MUCH simpler device than a tablet.
They need minimal screens, minimal internet connection speeds, minimal everything.
Right now it LOOKS like the ereader is close in price to a netbook becaue you are ignoring the ereader's major benefit - long battery life.
In conclusion, no, Apple will definitely NOT undercut the ereaders.
Neither will the apple clones.
Ereaders is a product that is here to stay and their price will continue to drop quicker than tablet PCS do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457668</id>
	<title>Re:Tivoization</title>
	<author>Zen Hash</author>
	<datestamp>1268392980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>What with all the other tablets coming out that let me install whatever the hell I want on them</p></div><p>Not necessarily. The mention of "ARM-powered entertainment tablets" makes me think some of these tablets will be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoization" title="wikipedia.org">locked up like a TiVo DVR</a> [wikipedia.org]: running a GPLv2 Linux kernel digitally signed by the manufacturer and GPLv2 apps digitally signed by the manufacturer. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compliance\_and\_Robustness" title="wikipedia.org">compliance and robustness</a> [wikipedia.org] requirements of the digital restrictions management systems used by the publishers of non-free works on "entertainment tablets" might prohibit any environment that isn't suitably Tivoized so that someone can't just <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tee\_(command)" title="wikipedia.org">tee(1)</a> [wikipedia.org] the cleartext of a non-free work to a file.</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDe1gd-pBRo" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDe1gd-pBRo</a> [youtube.com] -- There have been ARM-powered tablets on the market for quite awhile now, and they don't have the limitations you mention... Unlike the iPad, this one not only supports tethering to cell phones, it even steps you through BT pairing and configuring the DUN connection during the out-of-box setup wizard. You can also dual-boot different operating systems (Android, Ubuntu, Mer, etc.) stored internally or on removable SD cards. Not bad for something that costs less than half the price of the iPad. There are surely better ones available if one were to look around.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What with all the other tablets coming out that let me install whatever the hell I want on themNot necessarily .
The mention of " ARM-powered entertainment tablets " makes me think some of these tablets will be locked up like a TiVo DVR [ wikipedia.org ] : running a GPLv2 Linux kernel digitally signed by the manufacturer and GPLv2 apps digitally signed by the manufacturer .
The compliance and robustness [ wikipedia.org ] requirements of the digital restrictions management systems used by the publishers of non-free works on " entertainment tablets " might prohibit any environment that is n't suitably Tivoized so that someone ca n't just tee ( 1 ) [ wikipedia.org ] the cleartext of a non-free work to a file .
http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = wDe1gd-pBRo [ youtube.com ] -- There have been ARM-powered tablets on the market for quite awhile now , and they do n't have the limitations you mention... Unlike the iPad , this one not only supports tethering to cell phones , it even steps you through BT pairing and configuring the DUN connection during the out-of-box setup wizard .
You can also dual-boot different operating systems ( Android , Ubuntu , Mer , etc .
) stored internally or on removable SD cards .
Not bad for something that costs less than half the price of the iPad .
There are surely better ones available if one were to look around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What with all the other tablets coming out that let me install whatever the hell I want on themNot necessarily.
The mention of "ARM-powered entertainment tablets" makes me think some of these tablets will be locked up like a TiVo DVR [wikipedia.org]: running a GPLv2 Linux kernel digitally signed by the manufacturer and GPLv2 apps digitally signed by the manufacturer.
The compliance and robustness [wikipedia.org] requirements of the digital restrictions management systems used by the publishers of non-free works on "entertainment tablets" might prohibit any environment that isn't suitably Tivoized so that someone can't just tee(1) [wikipedia.org] the cleartext of a non-free work to a file.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDe1gd-pBRo [youtube.com] -- There have been ARM-powered tablets on the market for quite awhile now, and they don't have the limitations you mention... Unlike the iPad, this one not only supports tethering to cell phones, it even steps you through BT pairing and configuring the DUN connection during the out-of-box setup wizard.
You can also dual-boot different operating systems (Android, Ubuntu, Mer, etc.
) stored internally or on removable SD cards.
Not bad for something that costs less than half the price of the iPad.
There are surely better ones available if one were to look around.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457006</id>
	<title>Re:GPS devices</title>
	<author>Graham J - XVI</author>
	<datestamp>1268390220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not all GPS software downloads from the network. I use Navigon for my iPhone and it installs maps on the device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not all GPS software downloads from the network .
I use Navigon for my iPhone and it installs maps on the device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not all GPS software downloads from the network.
I use Navigon for my iPhone and it installs maps on the device.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456802</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458110</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Carbaholic</author>
	<datestamp>1268395080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank you, finally someone else who wishes there was a true e-reader on the market</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you , finally someone else who wishes there was a true e-reader on the market</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you, finally someone else who wishes there was a true e-reader on the market</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456690</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456816</id>
	<title>Tivoization</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1268389500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What with all the other tablets coming out that let me install whatever the hell I want on them</p></div><p>Not necessarily. The mention of "ARM-powered entertainment tablets" makes me think some of these tablets will be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoization" title="wikipedia.org">locked up like a TiVo DVR</a> [wikipedia.org]: running a GPLv2 Linux kernel digitally signed by the manufacturer and GPLv2 apps digitally signed by the manufacturer. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compliance\_and\_Robustness" title="wikipedia.org">compliance and robustness</a> [wikipedia.org] requirements of the digital restrictions management systems used by the publishers of non-free works on "entertainment tablets" might prohibit any environment that isn't suitably Tivoized so that someone can't just <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tee\_(command)" title="wikipedia.org">tee(1)</a> [wikipedia.org] the cleartext of a non-free work to a file.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What with all the other tablets coming out that let me install whatever the hell I want on themNot necessarily .
The mention of " ARM-powered entertainment tablets " makes me think some of these tablets will be locked up like a TiVo DVR [ wikipedia.org ] : running a GPLv2 Linux kernel digitally signed by the manufacturer and GPLv2 apps digitally signed by the manufacturer .
The compliance and robustness [ wikipedia.org ] requirements of the digital restrictions management systems used by the publishers of non-free works on " entertainment tablets " might prohibit any environment that is n't suitably Tivoized so that someone ca n't just tee ( 1 ) [ wikipedia.org ] the cleartext of a non-free work to a file .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What with all the other tablets coming out that let me install whatever the hell I want on themNot necessarily.
The mention of "ARM-powered entertainment tablets" makes me think some of these tablets will be locked up like a TiVo DVR [wikipedia.org]: running a GPLv2 Linux kernel digitally signed by the manufacturer and GPLv2 apps digitally signed by the manufacturer.
The compliance and robustness [wikipedia.org] requirements of the digital restrictions management systems used by the publishers of non-free works on "entertainment tablets" might prohibit any environment that isn't suitably Tivoized so that someone can't just tee(1) [wikipedia.org] the cleartext of a non-free work to a file.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456638</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458148</id>
	<title>Re:Only if screens are as eye-friendly as Kindle's</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268395320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks, I just realized my monitor had different brightness profiles, it's set to "Text" now, and is much more relaxing on my eyes!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks , I just realized my monitor had different brightness profiles , it 's set to " Text " now , and is much more relaxing on my eyes !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks, I just realized my monitor had different brightness profiles, it's set to "Text" now, and is much more relaxing on my eyes!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456786</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459202</id>
	<title>Re:DRM</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268399820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, DRM always restricts what you can do.</p><p>Because DRM is inherently circumventable, you must have your choice of software and hardware features limited. That means no Firewire port, no third-party PDF readers, SD cards (implementing CPRM) for storage, and apparently no third-party web-browsers.</p><p>For DRM to be effective you essentially have to be using a console instead of a "general purpose" computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , DRM always restricts what you can do.Because DRM is inherently circumventable , you must have your choice of software and hardware features limited .
That means no Firewire port , no third-party PDF readers , SD cards ( implementing CPRM ) for storage , and apparently no third-party web-browsers.For DRM to be effective you essentially have to be using a console instead of a " general purpose " computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, DRM always restricts what you can do.Because DRM is inherently circumventable, you must have your choice of software and hardware features limited.
That means no Firewire port, no third-party PDF readers, SD cards (implementing CPRM) for storage, and apparently no third-party web-browsers.For DRM to be effective you essentially have to be using a console instead of a "general purpose" computer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456710</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456802</id>
	<title>GPS devices</title>
	<author>Iphtashu Fitz</author>
	<datestamp>1268389440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, but I reject the notion that things like iPads, iPhones, etc. will replace GPS devices.  A dedicated GPS from a company like Garmin is much better at what it does than a smartphone.  Try using your iPhone's GPS to map your location when you're in an area with no cell coverage.  It won't be able to download the map data, so you're screwed.  Smartphones also try to speed up GPS triangulation by downloading ephemeris data over the cell network, but again it depends on your having a data connection.</p><p>If you spend all your time in a major city or driving along highways then a GPS in a smartphone might be enough for you, but if you like to travel to places where cellphone service is spotty or non-existent then a dedicated GPS is a MUCH better choice.  When I traveled to Australia a couple years ago I took a dedicated GPS with me and it worked great.  If I'd relied on my smartphone I would have had to have paid for a local data plan and prayed that there was coverage everywhere I was going.</p><p>Yes, I know ephemeris data can be grabbed from the GPS satellites and I know that newer smartphone apps are now storing map data locally, but I still find a full-featured GPS handheld to be much more useful than a GPS app on an iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but I reject the notion that things like iPads , iPhones , etc .
will replace GPS devices .
A dedicated GPS from a company like Garmin is much better at what it does than a smartphone .
Try using your iPhone 's GPS to map your location when you 're in an area with no cell coverage .
It wo n't be able to download the map data , so you 're screwed .
Smartphones also try to speed up GPS triangulation by downloading ephemeris data over the cell network , but again it depends on your having a data connection.If you spend all your time in a major city or driving along highways then a GPS in a smartphone might be enough for you , but if you like to travel to places where cellphone service is spotty or non-existent then a dedicated GPS is a MUCH better choice .
When I traveled to Australia a couple years ago I took a dedicated GPS with me and it worked great .
If I 'd relied on my smartphone I would have had to have paid for a local data plan and prayed that there was coverage everywhere I was going.Yes , I know ephemeris data can be grabbed from the GPS satellites and I know that newer smartphone apps are now storing map data locally , but I still find a full-featured GPS handheld to be much more useful than a GPS app on an iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but I reject the notion that things like iPads, iPhones, etc.
will replace GPS devices.
A dedicated GPS from a company like Garmin is much better at what it does than a smartphone.
Try using your iPhone's GPS to map your location when you're in an area with no cell coverage.
It won't be able to download the map data, so you're screwed.
Smartphones also try to speed up GPS triangulation by downloading ephemeris data over the cell network, but again it depends on your having a data connection.If you spend all your time in a major city or driving along highways then a GPS in a smartphone might be enough for you, but if you like to travel to places where cellphone service is spotty or non-existent then a dedicated GPS is a MUCH better choice.
When I traveled to Australia a couple years ago I took a dedicated GPS with me and it worked great.
If I'd relied on my smartphone I would have had to have paid for a local data plan and prayed that there was coverage everywhere I was going.Yes, I know ephemeris data can be grabbed from the GPS satellites and I know that newer smartphone apps are now storing map data locally, but I still find a full-featured GPS handheld to be much more useful than a GPS app on an iPhone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457096</id>
	<title>Re:Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>peragrin</author>
	<datestamp>1268390580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>adjusting the overall interface for touch screen , not just big controls but proper controls.  you can have sliding buttons, etc.  You need an on screen keyboard that works the same  across all applications, with built in spell check that picks up words as they are entered.  Applications themselves need to be able to rotate to deal with changes in resolutions.  You need to setup a method of switching to various applications without keyboard combos or other hardware buttons.  You need to add gesture support into the ENTIRE interface and every app to allow more input methods.</p><p>Oh and you need to make all of that work the same across every app and every interface element that needs or could make sensible use of it.</p><p>That is the point Android and current windows mobile fail so badly at.  They are still designing interfaces for desktops.  Not for multi touch based tablets.  People like you who think there is only two steps to make s touch based app to consider when designing the interface, is why apple is kicking android's ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>adjusting the overall interface for touch screen , not just big controls but proper controls .
you can have sliding buttons , etc .
You need an on screen keyboard that works the same across all applications , with built in spell check that picks up words as they are entered .
Applications themselves need to be able to rotate to deal with changes in resolutions .
You need to setup a method of switching to various applications without keyboard combos or other hardware buttons .
You need to add gesture support into the ENTIRE interface and every app to allow more input methods.Oh and you need to make all of that work the same across every app and every interface element that needs or could make sensible use of it.That is the point Android and current windows mobile fail so badly at .
They are still designing interfaces for desktops .
Not for multi touch based tablets .
People like you who think there is only two steps to make s touch based app to consider when designing the interface , is why apple is kicking android 's ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>adjusting the overall interface for touch screen , not just big controls but proper controls.
you can have sliding buttons, etc.
You need an on screen keyboard that works the same  across all applications, with built in spell check that picks up words as they are entered.
Applications themselves need to be able to rotate to deal with changes in resolutions.
You need to setup a method of switching to various applications without keyboard combos or other hardware buttons.
You need to add gesture support into the ENTIRE interface and every app to allow more input methods.Oh and you need to make all of that work the same across every app and every interface element that needs or could make sensible use of it.That is the point Android and current windows mobile fail so badly at.
They are still designing interfaces for desktops.
Not for multi touch based tablets.
People like you who think there is only two steps to make s touch based app to consider when designing the interface, is why apple is kicking android's ass.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457346</id>
	<title>No DRM on the Linux version?</title>
	<author>DoktorFaust</author>
	<datestamp>1268391480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>On top of that, Apple will be including DRM on some eBooks and other iPad content.</p></div><p>Oh, that's fantastic! You mean the Linux versions will offer the same books without DRM?
<br> <br>
Didn't think so.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>On top of that , Apple will be including DRM on some eBooks and other iPad content.Oh , that 's fantastic !
You mean the Linux versions will offer the same books without DRM ?
Did n't think so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On top of that, Apple will be including DRM on some eBooks and other iPad content.Oh, that's fantastic!
You mean the Linux versions will offer the same books without DRM?
Didn't think so.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458734</id>
	<title>iPad not an eReader replacement ...</title>
	<author>alangerow</author>
	<datestamp>1268397840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Saying the iPad &amp; its clones will kill off dedicated eReaders which have specialized hardware that cannot be replicated with software, is like saying the desktop PC will kill off the video game consoles. Whereas the opposite has come true<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... video game consoles have pretty much killed PC gaming, and have themselves become less specialized.

Reading while staring into a light bulb is not fun after a couple hours<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... particularly when you're going to have to be tethered to an outlet more often. We're more likely to see eReaders that incorporate color &amp; faster refresh rates to accomplish more tasks than we are seeing an iPad or clone render the e-Ink eReader market dead.

The iPad is ultimately targeting a different market than the eReaders. There may be cross-over, but for people who want to read digital books, eReaders will be better<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... for people who have an iPad and want to read a book, it'll be "good enough".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Saying the iPad &amp; its clones will kill off dedicated eReaders which have specialized hardware that can not be replicated with software , is like saying the desktop PC will kill off the video game consoles .
Whereas the opposite has come true ... video game consoles have pretty much killed PC gaming , and have themselves become less specialized .
Reading while staring into a light bulb is not fun after a couple hours ... particularly when you 're going to have to be tethered to an outlet more often .
We 're more likely to see eReaders that incorporate color &amp; faster refresh rates to accomplish more tasks than we are seeing an iPad or clone render the e-Ink eReader market dead .
The iPad is ultimately targeting a different market than the eReaders .
There may be cross-over , but for people who want to read digital books , eReaders will be better ... for people who have an iPad and want to read a book , it 'll be " good enough " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saying the iPad &amp; its clones will kill off dedicated eReaders which have specialized hardware that cannot be replicated with software, is like saying the desktop PC will kill off the video game consoles.
Whereas the opposite has come true ... video game consoles have pretty much killed PC gaming, and have themselves become less specialized.
Reading while staring into a light bulb is not fun after a couple hours ... particularly when you're going to have to be tethered to an outlet more often.
We're more likely to see eReaders that incorporate color &amp; faster refresh rates to accomplish more tasks than we are seeing an iPad or clone render the e-Ink eReader market dead.
The iPad is ultimately targeting a different market than the eReaders.
There may be cross-over, but for people who want to read digital books, eReaders will be better ... for people who have an iPad and want to read a book, it'll be "good enough".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457570</id>
	<title>Re:GPS devices</title>
	<author>mmcxii</author>
	<datestamp>1268392500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Yes, I know ephemeris data can be grabbed from the GPS satellites and I know that newer smartphone apps are now storing map data locally</i> <br> <br>So you're admitting your rant is a non-issue?<br> <br> <i>I still find a full-featured GPS handheld to be much more useful than a GPS app on an iPhone.</i> <br> <br>Care to back that up? Your entire post hinged on the idea that you can't save maps locally and you turn around in your closing remark and admit that you can save maps locally but go on to again proclaim that dedicated GPS is still better. I own a Garmin iQue M5 and while it's a great device I don't see a single thing that it could do that can't be done on a cell. Either I'm missing something or you don't have a leg to stand on here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I know ephemeris data can be grabbed from the GPS satellites and I know that newer smartphone apps are now storing map data locally So you 're admitting your rant is a non-issue ?
I still find a full-featured GPS handheld to be much more useful than a GPS app on an iPhone .
Care to back that up ?
Your entire post hinged on the idea that you ca n't save maps locally and you turn around in your closing remark and admit that you can save maps locally but go on to again proclaim that dedicated GPS is still better .
I own a Garmin iQue M5 and while it 's a great device I do n't see a single thing that it could do that ca n't be done on a cell .
Either I 'm missing something or you do n't have a leg to stand on here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I know ephemeris data can be grabbed from the GPS satellites and I know that newer smartphone apps are now storing map data locally  So you're admitting your rant is a non-issue?
I still find a full-featured GPS handheld to be much more useful than a GPS app on an iPhone.
Care to back that up?
Your entire post hinged on the idea that you can't save maps locally and you turn around in your closing remark and admit that you can save maps locally but go on to again proclaim that dedicated GPS is still better.
I own a Garmin iQue M5 and while it's a great device I don't see a single thing that it could do that can't be done on a cell.
Either I'm missing something or you don't have a leg to stand on here.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460144</id>
	<title>So what?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268405040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Number of slashdotters who'll buy an iPad:  2\%<br>Financial impact to Apple in lost sales: 0<br>Lesson: Priceless</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Number of slashdotters who 'll buy an iPad : 2 \ % Financial impact to Apple in lost sales : 0Lesson : Priceless</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Number of slashdotters who'll buy an iPad:  2\%Financial impact to Apple in lost sales: 0Lesson: Priceless</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456822</id>
	<title>Ok, where are they???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268389500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>"when I consider that there are soon going to be literally dozens of cheaper, Linux-powered iPad devices on the market"
<br> <br>
Ok, find I'm sold.  can I order one today?  Tomorrow?  6 months?
<br> <br>
No, well FU then.  I've been waiting for a slate computing device like this for YEARS and someone is shipping one next month, that someone happens to be Apple.  If something better comes along, fine I'll take one of those too, then ReBay the iPad.  If the market floods with them and nothing is any better, I'll keep it.
<br>
<br>I can't sit down on the couch with Vaporware, so how long are we supposed to wait?  And frankly I'm not poor enough to worry about waiting to save a couple $$ to buy the exact best thing at the exact best time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" when I consider that there are soon going to be literally dozens of cheaper , Linux-powered iPad devices on the market " Ok , find I 'm sold .
can I order one today ?
Tomorrow ? 6 months ?
No , well FU then .
I 've been waiting for a slate computing device like this for YEARS and someone is shipping one next month , that someone happens to be Apple .
If something better comes along , fine I 'll take one of those too , then ReBay the iPad .
If the market floods with them and nothing is any better , I 'll keep it .
I ca n't sit down on the couch with Vaporware , so how long are we supposed to wait ?
And frankly I 'm not poor enough to worry about waiting to save a couple $ $ to buy the exact best thing at the exact best time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"when I consider that there are soon going to be literally dozens of cheaper, Linux-powered iPad devices on the market"
 
Ok, find I'm sold.
can I order one today?
Tomorrow?  6 months?
No, well FU then.
I've been waiting for a slate computing device like this for YEARS and someone is shipping one next month, that someone happens to be Apple.
If something better comes along, fine I'll take one of those too, then ReBay the iPad.
If the market floods with them and nothing is any better, I'll keep it.
I can't sit down on the couch with Vaporware, so how long are we supposed to wait?
And frankly I'm not poor enough to worry about waiting to save a couple $$ to buy the exact best thing at the exact best time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457628</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1268392740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want one too, but ill kick in an additional 25 for wifi or bluetooth for transferring stuff without a cable.</p><p>( tho i do have a kindle.. but anther cheap device that you don't have to worry about the cost if you break it would be nice )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want one too , but ill kick in an additional 25 for wifi or bluetooth for transferring stuff without a cable .
( tho i do have a kindle.. but anther cheap device that you do n't have to worry about the cost if you break it would be nice )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want one too, but ill kick in an additional 25 for wifi or bluetooth for transferring stuff without a cable.
( tho i do have a kindle.. but anther cheap device that you don't have to worry about the cost if you break it would be nice )</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456690</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458982</id>
	<title>LCD is fine if you pay attention to light</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1268398860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I can read off my Kindle's e-ink screen with considerably less eye strain than reading off a backlit LCD. Backlights are hard on your eyes.</i></p><p>No they are not.  Not inherently.</p><p>What is hard on your eyes is trying to read things from a poor display (fuzzy or flickering).  Or if you take advantage of the fact LCD's self-illuminate to read when it's way too dark around you, for too long.</p><p>The nice thing about the Apple stuff is that it always adjusts brightness (as much as it can) for ambient illumination to help prevent strain.  But if you simply give your iPad as much light as you would give a Kindle or other eInk reader, I think you'll find there's not much eyestrain at all.  And with IPS displays, the display should be very crisp and easy to read.  The fact that it works a lot quicker, and supports color are major improvements to books - even fiction books these days will often have diagrams and things, and It's a lot nicer to be able to read in color.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can read off my Kindle 's e-ink screen with considerably less eye strain than reading off a backlit LCD .
Backlights are hard on your eyes.No they are not .
Not inherently.What is hard on your eyes is trying to read things from a poor display ( fuzzy or flickering ) .
Or if you take advantage of the fact LCD 's self-illuminate to read when it 's way too dark around you , for too long.The nice thing about the Apple stuff is that it always adjusts brightness ( as much as it can ) for ambient illumination to help prevent strain .
But if you simply give your iPad as much light as you would give a Kindle or other eInk reader , I think you 'll find there 's not much eyestrain at all .
And with IPS displays , the display should be very crisp and easy to read .
The fact that it works a lot quicker , and supports color are major improvements to books - even fiction books these days will often have diagrams and things , and It 's a lot nicer to be able to read in color .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can read off my Kindle's e-ink screen with considerably less eye strain than reading off a backlit LCD.
Backlights are hard on your eyes.No they are not.
Not inherently.What is hard on your eyes is trying to read things from a poor display (fuzzy or flickering).
Or if you take advantage of the fact LCD's self-illuminate to read when it's way too dark around you, for too long.The nice thing about the Apple stuff is that it always adjusts brightness (as much as it can) for ambient illumination to help prevent strain.
But if you simply give your iPad as much light as you would give a Kindle or other eInk reader, I think you'll find there's not much eyestrain at all.
And with IPS displays, the display should be very crisp and easy to read.
The fact that it works a lot quicker, and supports color are major improvements to books - even fiction books these days will often have diagrams and things, and It's a lot nicer to be able to read in color.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456786</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456846</id>
	<title>All of the iPad's goodies...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268389620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...except the one that counts--a user interface designed from scratch to be used by fingers. Apple designs their products around users. Everybody else designs their products around bullet-points.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...except the one that counts--a user interface designed from scratch to be used by fingers .
Apple designs their products around users .
Everybody else designs their products around bullet-points .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...except the one that counts--a user interface designed from scratch to be used by fingers.
Apple designs their products around users.
Everybody else designs their products around bullet-points.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457580</id>
	<title>When the second paragraph is factually wrong</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1268392500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I won't read the rest of the article.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wo n't read the rest of the article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I won't read the rest of the article.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457708</id>
	<title>Star Trek device</title>
	<author>MrKaos</author>
	<datestamp>1268393160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It looks to me like another device from Star Trek is making it's way to reality.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks to me like another device from Star Trek is making it 's way to reality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks to me like another device from Star Trek is making it's way to reality.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460142</id>
	<title>Re:Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268404980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's just the usual bunch of hardware geeks dismissing anything to do with usability and user experience design.<br>"OMG we don't want to dumb down computers for the unwashed masses" etc</p><p>We need more usability geeks here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's just the usual bunch of hardware geeks dismissing anything to do with usability and user experience design .
" OMG we do n't want to dumb down computers for the unwashed masses " etcWe need more usability geeks here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's just the usual bunch of hardware geeks dismissing anything to do with usability and user experience design.
"OMG we don't want to dumb down computers for the unwashed masses" etcWe need more usability geeks here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457334</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457534</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>dfghjk</author>
	<datestamp>1268392320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Love how this is all stated as fact.</p><p>If only Android had targeted touch interfaces from the beginning...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Love how this is all stated as fact.If only Android had targeted touch interfaces from the beginning.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Love how this is all stated as fact.If only Android had targeted touch interfaces from the beginning...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456686</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457202</id>
	<title>Replace all GPS units?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268390940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, call me old school. I can't see hiking with an iPad instead of a hand-held GPS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , call me old school .
I ca n't see hiking with an iPad instead of a hand-held GPS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, call me old school.
I can't see hiking with an iPad instead of a hand-held GPS.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457110</id>
	<title>The article says a power cord costs extra.</title>
	<author>fredmosby</author>
	<datestamp>1268390640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>From the Article:<br>
<i>I tell a lie though. The Apple iPad isn't really $499. Just adding a power cord to the iPad will cost you $29.00. No, I'm not making that up. Really, Apple, you couldn't throw in a power cord? Shame on you.</i> <br> <br>
This guy doesn't know what he is talking about.  According to the <a href="http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/" title="apple.com">tech specs</a> [apple.com] 10 watt USB power adapter is included in the box.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the Article : I tell a lie though .
The Apple iPad is n't really $ 499 .
Just adding a power cord to the iPad will cost you $ 29.00 .
No , I 'm not making that up .
Really , Apple , you could n't throw in a power cord ?
Shame on you .
This guy does n't know what he is talking about .
According to the tech specs [ apple.com ] 10 watt USB power adapter is included in the box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the Article:
I tell a lie though.
The Apple iPad isn't really $499.
Just adding a power cord to the iPad will cost you $29.00.
No, I'm not making that up.
Really, Apple, you couldn't throw in a power cord?
Shame on you.
This guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
According to the tech specs [apple.com] 10 watt USB power adapter is included in the box.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458230</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>imfeldma</author>
	<datestamp>1268395740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You may want to try an XO (http://www.laptop.org). The screen is made to be readable under extreme lighting conditions, it's fairly cheap and flips into pretty much what you want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may want to try an XO ( http : //www.laptop.org ) .
The screen is made to be readable under extreme lighting conditions , it 's fairly cheap and flips into pretty much what you want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may want to try an XO (http://www.laptop.org).
The screen is made to be readable under extreme lighting conditions, it's fairly cheap and flips into pretty much what you want.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456690</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458354</id>
	<title>Yes, but....</title>
	<author>Heliologue</author>
	<datestamp>1268396280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, but will it run Linux?

Oh, wait....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but will it run Linux ?
Oh , wait... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but will it run Linux?
Oh, wait....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460162</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268405100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple made a good decision to base the iPad off of the iPhone. Now if only there was a Linux based phone OS that could be adapted in the same way...<br>Maybe Google will one day create such an OS in their attempts to compete with Apple in all areas of the market...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple made a good decision to base the iPad off of the iPhone .
Now if only there was a Linux based phone OS that could be adapted in the same way...Maybe Google will one day create such an OS in their attempts to compete with Apple in all areas of the market.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple made a good decision to base the iPad off of the iPhone.
Now if only there was a Linux based phone OS that could be adapted in the same way...Maybe Google will one day create such an OS in their attempts to compete with Apple in all areas of the market...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456638</id>
	<title>No iPad for me</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1268388840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What with all the other tablets coming out that <i>let me install whatever the hell I want on them</i>, I see no reason to be stuck with the programs Apple deems "appropriate" for me.</p><p>Obviously, this is just my opinion and only applies to myself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What with all the other tablets coming out that let me install whatever the hell I want on them , I see no reason to be stuck with the programs Apple deems " appropriate " for me.Obviously , this is just my opinion and only applies to myself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What with all the other tablets coming out that let me install whatever the hell I want on them, I see no reason to be stuck with the programs Apple deems "appropriate" for me.Obviously, this is just my opinion and only applies to myself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456798</id>
	<title>Why will people buy iPads?</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1268389440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are any of those Linux based tablets compatible with the Apple App Store? It's apps that sell hardware, not operating system awesomeness. For geeks that want to micromanage everything their tablet does, a Linux tablet is a better choice. For everyone else, "theirs an app for that" is a better choice. Plus, if you're a geek that wants versatility, wouldn't you be better off with a netbook running Linux? Touchscreen keyboards just slow computer geeks down.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are any of those Linux based tablets compatible with the Apple App Store ?
It 's apps that sell hardware , not operating system awesomeness .
For geeks that want to micromanage everything their tablet does , a Linux tablet is a better choice .
For everyone else , " theirs an app for that " is a better choice .
Plus , if you 're a geek that wants versatility , would n't you be better off with a netbook running Linux ?
Touchscreen keyboards just slow computer geeks down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are any of those Linux based tablets compatible with the Apple App Store?
It's apps that sell hardware, not operating system awesomeness.
For geeks that want to micromanage everything their tablet does, a Linux tablet is a better choice.
For everyone else, "theirs an app for that" is a better choice.
Plus, if you're a geek that wants versatility, wouldn't you be better off with a netbook running Linux?
Touchscreen keyboards just slow computer geeks down.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456706</id>
	<title>I still want a keyboard</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1268389140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an eeepc 701. Yeah I know the screen is small, but I run ubuntu on it and I get a lot of coding done on the tram with it. I want a keyboard but I could do without the track pad if I had a touch screen instead.</p><p>BTW has anybody else in Australia noticed the little linux based netbook in JB? I saw it last week. Screen size seems about the same as the 701. Its ~250 bucks or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an eeepc 701 .
Yeah I know the screen is small , but I run ubuntu on it and I get a lot of coding done on the tram with it .
I want a keyboard but I could do without the track pad if I had a touch screen instead.BTW has anybody else in Australia noticed the little linux based netbook in JB ?
I saw it last week .
Screen size seems about the same as the 701 .
Its ~ 250 bucks or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an eeepc 701.
Yeah I know the screen is small, but I run ubuntu on it and I get a lot of coding done on the tram with it.
I want a keyboard but I could do without the track pad if I had a touch screen instead.BTW has anybody else in Australia noticed the little linux based netbook in JB?
I saw it last week.
Screen size seems about the same as the 701.
Its ~250 bucks or so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458430</id>
	<title>Re:What about the UI</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268396640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>how did this get modded interesting?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how did this get modded interesting ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how did this get modded interesting?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457062</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458116</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268395140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He wants an SD card.  There is no SD card on Sony eBook Pocket Reader, and it only has 440 MB of internal memory.  So the Sony isn't going to work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He wants an SD card .
There is no SD card on Sony eBook Pocket Reader , and it only has 440 MB of internal memory .
So the Sony is n't going to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He wants an SD card.
There is no SD card on Sony eBook Pocket Reader, and it only has 440 MB of internal memory.
So the Sony isn't going to work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459618</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>arose</author>
	<datestamp>1268401560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>E-ink (reflective, extremely low-power)</p></div></blockquote><p>
There are LCDs that are basically indistinguishable from e-ink (they mainly lack the refresh flicker), but for some reason no-one is talking about them. I guess major improvements in existing tech are not sexy enough.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>E-ink ( reflective , extremely low-power ) There are LCDs that are basically indistinguishable from e-ink ( they mainly lack the refresh flicker ) , but for some reason no-one is talking about them .
I guess major improvements in existing tech are not sexy enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>E-ink (reflective, extremely low-power)
There are LCDs that are basically indistinguishable from e-ink (they mainly lack the refresh flicker), but for some reason no-one is talking about them.
I guess major improvements in existing tech are not sexy enough.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456690</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31461770</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>troll8901</author>
	<datestamp>1268418420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't understand the joke.  Care to explain?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't understand the joke .
Care to explain ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't understand the joke.
Care to explain?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31462666</id>
	<title>Re:DRM</title>
	<author>tonycole</author>
	<datestamp>1268475540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a point of interest, almost all eReaders out there, and there are now dozens of different models (not just Kindle and Sony!!!!), most of which are versatile, well made devices  support any format you want, either protected or not, as well as hundreds of online bookshops and dealers in eReaders.
Things like the iPad are not eReaders, they are simply computers, no more, no less, and I don't believe for a minute they will kill real eReaders with e-Paper and e-ink.  The whole reading experience is different.  Some people are happy reading books on back-lit screens, but most are not.  it is comparing apples and pears. (no pun intended!).  There is surely room out there for both devices, why does everything have to do everything?  I dont ask my car to be an efficient plane after all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a point of interest , almost all eReaders out there , and there are now dozens of different models ( not just Kindle and Sony ! ! ! !
) , most of which are versatile , well made devices support any format you want , either protected or not , as well as hundreds of online bookshops and dealers in eReaders .
Things like the iPad are not eReaders , they are simply computers , no more , no less , and I do n't believe for a minute they will kill real eReaders with e-Paper and e-ink .
The whole reading experience is different .
Some people are happy reading books on back-lit screens , but most are not .
it is comparing apples and pears .
( no pun intended ! ) .
There is surely room out there for both devices , why does everything have to do everything ?
I dont ask my car to be an efficient plane after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a point of interest, almost all eReaders out there, and there are now dozens of different models (not just Kindle and Sony!!!!
), most of which are versatile, well made devices  support any format you want, either protected or not, as well as hundreds of online bookshops and dealers in eReaders.
Things like the iPad are not eReaders, they are simply computers, no more, no less, and I don't believe for a minute they will kill real eReaders with e-Paper and e-ink.
The whole reading experience is different.
Some people are happy reading books on back-lit screens, but most are not.
it is comparing apples and pears.
(no pun intended!).
There is surely room out there for both devices, why does everything have to do everything?
I dont ask my car to be an efficient plane after all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456710</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457476</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268392020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then you should love the iPad, because it will force down prices for dedicated e-readers.
<p>
But without a daylight-visible screen, the iPad has no chance of being a good e-reader in itself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then you should love the iPad , because it will force down prices for dedicated e-readers .
But without a daylight-visible screen , the iPad has no chance of being a good e-reader in itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then you should love the iPad, because it will force down prices for dedicated e-readers.
But without a daylight-visible screen, the iPad has no chance of being a good e-reader in itself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456690</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31461128</id>
	<title>Muscle Boost</title>
	<author>nicolassed</author>
	<datestamp>1268411880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's the key to those explosive muscles in a nutshell. It doesn't matter if you work to your point of fatigue and failure, if nutrients aren't getting in to feed that muscle tissue those muscles just aren't going to grow.
<a href="http://ezinearticles.com/?Muscle-Boost-Review---Does-Muscle-Boost-Really-Work?&amp;id=3909444l" title="ezinearticles.com" rel="nofollow">Muscle Boost</a> [ezinearticles.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the key to those explosive muscles in a nutshell .
It does n't matter if you work to your point of fatigue and failure , if nutrients are n't getting in to feed that muscle tissue those muscles just are n't going to grow .
Muscle Boost [ ezinearticles.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the key to those explosive muscles in a nutshell.
It doesn't matter if you work to your point of fatigue and failure, if nutrients aren't getting in to feed that muscle tissue those muscles just aren't going to grow.
Muscle Boost [ezinearticles.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31462076</id>
	<title>Re:Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1268422320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>That is the point Android and current windows mobile fail so badly at.</p></div> </blockquote><p>

You have never used Android, because if you did you would know the problem you describe does not exist.<br> <br>

Now what you describe is the responsibility of the OS, or more specifically the HAL to take input from whichever input device (touch screen. OSK, physical KB) and convert it into the response that the program understands. You seem to be under the impression that Android is an integrated device, it is not. Android is an operating system and like most operating systems it is designed to be an application framework that gives uniform results across disparate hardware. This is a job Android does very well and ultimately this is why Android will take over.<br> <br>

Ultimately there is little difference between making an application for Linux or Windows desktop and making an application for Android when it comes to input, mouse actions can easily translate into touch screen actions and the output of an on screen keyboard is identical to the output of a physical keyboard. The significant difference between a desktop application and a mobile phone application is the screen size, this is why UI changes need to be made not because of the OS.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is the point Android and current windows mobile fail so badly at .
You have never used Android , because if you did you would know the problem you describe does not exist .
Now what you describe is the responsibility of the OS , or more specifically the HAL to take input from whichever input device ( touch screen .
OSK , physical KB ) and convert it into the response that the program understands .
You seem to be under the impression that Android is an integrated device , it is not .
Android is an operating system and like most operating systems it is designed to be an application framework that gives uniform results across disparate hardware .
This is a job Android does very well and ultimately this is why Android will take over .
Ultimately there is little difference between making an application for Linux or Windows desktop and making an application for Android when it comes to input , mouse actions can easily translate into touch screen actions and the output of an on screen keyboard is identical to the output of a physical keyboard .
The significant difference between a desktop application and a mobile phone application is the screen size , this is why UI changes need to be made not because of the OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is the point Android and current windows mobile fail so badly at.
You have never used Android, because if you did you would know the problem you describe does not exist.
Now what you describe is the responsibility of the OS, or more specifically the HAL to take input from whichever input device (touch screen.
OSK, physical KB) and convert it into the response that the program understands.
You seem to be under the impression that Android is an integrated device, it is not.
Android is an operating system and like most operating systems it is designed to be an application framework that gives uniform results across disparate hardware.
This is a job Android does very well and ultimately this is why Android will take over.
Ultimately there is little difference between making an application for Linux or Windows desktop and making an application for Android when it comes to input, mouse actions can easily translate into touch screen actions and the output of an on screen keyboard is identical to the output of a physical keyboard.
The significant difference between a desktop application and a mobile phone application is the screen size, this is why UI changes need to be made not because of the OS.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457096</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31470938</id>
	<title>Bad phrasing</title>
	<author>bryan1945</author>
	<datestamp>1268563080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"50 ARM powered clones..."<br>My first take on reading this was a pad that had 50 ARM processors in it, making me wonder what the heck was going to power this thing!  Of course I got it on the 2nd read, but still.</p><p>Now there is a project for you super-mod freaks!  Take a pad (iPad or clone) and stuff it enough power to rival a low-level server.  Or even a good laptop.  That would be funky.  I wouldn't even try this, since the last time I soldered I set my (wooden) desk on fire.  There were mitigating circumstances, but still....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" 50 ARM powered clones... " My first take on reading this was a pad that had 50 ARM processors in it , making me wonder what the heck was going to power this thing !
Of course I got it on the 2nd read , but still.Now there is a project for you super-mod freaks !
Take a pad ( iPad or clone ) and stuff it enough power to rival a low-level server .
Or even a good laptop .
That would be funky .
I would n't even try this , since the last time I soldered I set my ( wooden ) desk on fire .
There were mitigating circumstances , but still... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"50 ARM powered clones..."My first take on reading this was a pad that had 50 ARM processors in it, making me wonder what the heck was going to power this thing!
Of course I got it on the 2nd read, but still.Now there is a project for you super-mod freaks!
Take a pad (iPad or clone) and stuff it enough power to rival a low-level server.
Or even a good laptop.
That would be funky.
I wouldn't even try this, since the last time I soldered I set my (wooden) desk on fire.
There were mitigating circumstances, but still....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459434</id>
	<title>Here's how it doesn't work out that way</title>
	<author>wgkylep</author>
	<datestamp>1268400720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>" All that said, I agree the iPad is really cool. I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years. How can it not work out this way? For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more."

Spoken like someone who doesn't use a Kindle.  Let's see, iPad will have shorter battery life, make me pay a monthly fee for a data plan, won't read easily in strong sunlight like a real book<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... in other words, not have any of the functionality of what I bought a Kindle for, which was to replace 2 or 3 hardback BOOKS when I get on the plane, not replace my DVD player or laptop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" All that said , I agree the iPad is really cool .
I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon 's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years .
How can it not work out this way ?
For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more .
" Spoken like someone who does n't use a Kindle .
Let 's see , iPad will have shorter battery life , make me pay a monthly fee for a data plan , wo n't read easily in strong sunlight like a real book ... in other words , not have any of the functionality of what I bought a Kindle for , which was to replace 2 or 3 hardback BOOKS when I get on the plane , not replace my DVD player or laptop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>" All that said, I agree the iPad is really cool.
I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years.
How can it not work out this way?
For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more.
"

Spoken like someone who doesn't use a Kindle.
Let's see, iPad will have shorter battery life, make me pay a monthly fee for a data plan, won't read easily in strong sunlight like a real book ... in other words, not have any of the functionality of what I bought a Kindle for, which was to replace 2 or 3 hardback BOOKS when I get on the plane, not replace my DVD player or laptop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31463734</id>
	<title>This just in, Apple fans full of themselves!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268493600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it really an iPad clone when tablet pcs have been out for almost a decade now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it really an iPad clone when tablet pcs have been out for almost a decade now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it really an iPad clone when tablet pcs have been out for almost a decade now?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457852</id>
	<title>Re:2010</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1268393700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux on Carrot Top.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux on Carrot Top .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux on Carrot Top.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456714</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459458</id>
	<title>Re:ergh</title>
	<author>tool462</author>
	<datestamp>1268400840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because they've never left their basement?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they 've never left their basement ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they've never left their basement?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456776</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31461458</id>
	<title>Re:GPS devices</title>
	<author>biglig2</author>
	<datestamp>1268415000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the thing is that while dedicated GPS devices are better at navigation, an iPhone is more general purpose, doing lots of things apart from navigation. For example, I have an app that uses the GPS while I'm out for a walk to track how far I've gone and how many calories I've burned.</p><p>The issue that if you're navigating you need local maps was fixed long ago; all the navigation apps you buy do this. The builtin maps app doesn't of course, but it's not really for navigation; it just has that included as a "might as well put this in". It's for location aware searching.</p><p>If my beloved TomTom fell under a bus... I'd probably replace with TomTom for iPhone, Maybe not as good, but as with cameras, the best GPS is the one you have with you, and I've always got my phone with me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the thing is that while dedicated GPS devices are better at navigation , an iPhone is more general purpose , doing lots of things apart from navigation .
For example , I have an app that uses the GPS while I 'm out for a walk to track how far I 've gone and how many calories I 've burned.The issue that if you 're navigating you need local maps was fixed long ago ; all the navigation apps you buy do this .
The builtin maps app does n't of course , but it 's not really for navigation ; it just has that included as a " might as well put this in " .
It 's for location aware searching.If my beloved TomTom fell under a bus... I 'd probably replace with TomTom for iPhone , Maybe not as good , but as with cameras , the best GPS is the one you have with you , and I 've always got my phone with me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the thing is that while dedicated GPS devices are better at navigation, an iPhone is more general purpose, doing lots of things apart from navigation.
For example, I have an app that uses the GPS while I'm out for a walk to track how far I've gone and how many calories I've burned.The issue that if you're navigating you need local maps was fixed long ago; all the navigation apps you buy do this.
The builtin maps app doesn't of course, but it's not really for navigation; it just has that included as a "might as well put this in".
It's for location aware searching.If my beloved TomTom fell under a bus... I'd probably replace with TomTom for iPhone, Maybe not as good, but as with cameras, the best GPS is the one you have with you, and I've always got my phone with me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456802</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457608</id>
	<title>Kill off ebook readers?</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1268392620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not unless they have color e-ink. There is still something to be said about the readability of e-ink compared to LCD.</p><p>But, it might bring the price down on kindles..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not unless they have color e-ink .
There is still something to be said about the readability of e-ink compared to LCD.But , it might bring the price down on kindles. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not unless they have color e-ink.
There is still something to be said about the readability of e-ink compared to LCD.But, it might bring the price down on kindles..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459534</id>
	<title>Re:Hardware clones - yes. Clones .. no</title>
	<author>R3d M3rcury</author>
	<datestamp>1268401140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course, they use a different-sized SIM card than the iPhone (smaller) so you can't just pop the SIM card out of your phone and use it with your iPad.</p><p>Clever rascals...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , they use a different-sized SIM card than the iPhone ( smaller ) so you ca n't just pop the SIM card out of your phone and use it with your iPad.Clever rascals.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, they use a different-sized SIM card than the iPhone (smaller) so you can't just pop the SIM card out of your phone and use it with your iPad.Clever rascals...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457664</id>
	<title>Pixel Qi screen -- better than Kindle</title>
	<author>hmbJeff</author>
	<datestamp>1268392920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>See the <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5471559/notion-ink-adam-tablet-caught-on-video-specs-finalized" title="gizmodo.com" rel="nofollow">Adam</a> [gizmodo.com] device from Notion Ink.  It will ship with a <a href="http://pixelqi.com/" title="pixelqi.com" rel="nofollow">Pixel Qi</a> [pixelqi.com] screen that works in reflective mode (like the e-ink screen on a Kindle) in sunlight.  However, unlike e-ink, it can also run in full color with normal video-friendly refresh rates, just by turning on the backlight.  You get the best of both worlds, including very low power usage when running in reflective mode.  On most Pixel Qi devices this switching on and off of the backlight can be done manually or automatically with an ambient light sensor.

The Adam device runs Android, rather than a direct Linux OS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>See the Adam [ gizmodo.com ] device from Notion Ink .
It will ship with a Pixel Qi [ pixelqi.com ] screen that works in reflective mode ( like the e-ink screen on a Kindle ) in sunlight .
However , unlike e-ink , it can also run in full color with normal video-friendly refresh rates , just by turning on the backlight .
You get the best of both worlds , including very low power usage when running in reflective mode .
On most Pixel Qi devices this switching on and off of the backlight can be done manually or automatically with an ambient light sensor .
The Adam device runs Android , rather than a direct Linux OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See the Adam [gizmodo.com] device from Notion Ink.
It will ship with a Pixel Qi [pixelqi.com] screen that works in reflective mode (like the e-ink screen on a Kindle) in sunlight.
However, unlike e-ink, it can also run in full color with normal video-friendly refresh rates, just by turning on the backlight.
You get the best of both worlds, including very low power usage when running in reflective mode.
On most Pixel Qi devices this switching on and off of the backlight can be done manually or automatically with an ambient light sensor.
The Adam device runs Android, rather than a direct Linux OS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460604</id>
	<title>Can I just point out one thing?</title>
	<author>biglig2</author>
	<datestamp>1268408160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There have been tablets around for years. Years! XP Tablet edition came out in 2002. So did the ProGear Linux tablet.</p><p>And did any of you buy one? No. No-one did. Bill Gates - with the unholy power of Microsoft's marketing division - has been trying to persuade people to use Tablet PCs for nine years and no-ones bought one.</p><p>So anyone saying that "these new tablets coming out soon will beat the iPad" is flat out insane. You can buy a Linux tablet right now. But none of you do.</p><p>Hell, the iPad is the best thing to happen to Linux tablets ever. It'll drive the price down, and make everyone else raise their game when they see it eating into their consumer notebook markets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There have been tablets around for years .
Years ! XP Tablet edition came out in 2002 .
So did the ProGear Linux tablet.And did any of you buy one ?
No. No-one did .
Bill Gates - with the unholy power of Microsoft 's marketing division - has been trying to persuade people to use Tablet PCs for nine years and no-ones bought one.So anyone saying that " these new tablets coming out soon will beat the iPad " is flat out insane .
You can buy a Linux tablet right now .
But none of you do.Hell , the iPad is the best thing to happen to Linux tablets ever .
It 'll drive the price down , and make everyone else raise their game when they see it eating into their consumer notebook markets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There have been tablets around for years.
Years! XP Tablet edition came out in 2002.
So did the ProGear Linux tablet.And did any of you buy one?
No. No-one did.
Bill Gates - with the unholy power of Microsoft's marketing division - has been trying to persuade people to use Tablet PCs for nine years and no-ones bought one.So anyone saying that "these new tablets coming out soon will beat the iPad" is flat out insane.
You can buy a Linux tablet right now.
But none of you do.Hell, the iPad is the best thing to happen to Linux tablets ever.
It'll drive the price down, and make everyone else raise their game when they see it eating into their consumer notebook markets.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458336</id>
	<title>GPS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268396220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I disagree that they will kill off dedicated GPS.  I believe the iPhone relies on cellphone towers, and the iPod Touch relies on a satellite signal.  Not only is it hard to get a satellite signal with the touch, but its not accurate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree that they will kill off dedicated GPS .
I believe the iPhone relies on cellphone towers , and the iPod Touch relies on a satellite signal .
Not only is it hard to get a satellite signal with the touch , but its not accurate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree that they will kill off dedicated GPS.
I believe the iPhone relies on cellphone towers, and the iPod Touch relies on a satellite signal.
Not only is it hard to get a satellite signal with the touch, but its not accurate.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457184</id>
	<title>Re:2010</title>
	<author>PolygamousRanchKid </author>
	<datestamp>1268390880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>'Tabletop'?</p></div><p>Not quite, try 'tank top': <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/+linux\_tangram\_store\_womens\_tank\_top,31557855" title="cafepress.com">http://www.cafepress.com/+linux\_tangram\_store\_womens\_tank\_top,31557855</a> [cafepress.com]
</p><p>This will definitely improve the optical situation in the cubicle cities.  A great gift for geeks for their girlfriends that they don't have.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>'Tabletop ' ? Not quite , try 'tank top ' : http : //www.cafepress.com/ + linux \ _tangram \ _store \ _womens \ _tank \ _top,31557855 [ cafepress.com ] This will definitely improve the optical situation in the cubicle cities .
A great gift for geeks for their girlfriends that they do n't have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'Tabletop'?Not quite, try 'tank top': http://www.cafepress.com/+linux\_tangram\_store\_womens\_tank\_top,31557855 [cafepress.com]
This will definitely improve the optical situation in the cubicle cities.
A great gift for geeks for their girlfriends that they don't have.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457332</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1268391480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe would matter which version/distribution of Linux. Maemo have a lot of software meant for touch devices, and there are tablet/cellphone (i.e. Nokia N900) that exploit it well, while at the same time gives you the old keyboard/mouse interface if you need some app not meant for touchscreen. Having a mouse don't meant that all your apps should be used only by it, and not having a hardware input device don't meant that it can't be <a href="http://maemo.org/packages/view/accelemymote/" title="maemo.org">emulated by another</a> [maemo.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe would matter which version/distribution of Linux .
Maemo have a lot of software meant for touch devices , and there are tablet/cellphone ( i.e .
Nokia N900 ) that exploit it well , while at the same time gives you the old keyboard/mouse interface if you need some app not meant for touchscreen .
Having a mouse do n't meant that all your apps should be used only by it , and not having a hardware input device do n't meant that it ca n't be emulated by another [ maemo.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe would matter which version/distribution of Linux.
Maemo have a lot of software meant for touch devices, and there are tablet/cellphone (i.e.
Nokia N900) that exploit it well, while at the same time gives you the old keyboard/mouse interface if you need some app not meant for touchscreen.
Having a mouse don't meant that all your apps should be used only by it, and not having a hardware input device don't meant that it can't be emulated by another [maemo.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457802</id>
	<title>it's not just mouse and keyboard anymore.</title>
	<author>fsamurai</author>
	<datestamp>1268393520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>People can run linux on pretty much anything, that doesn't change the fact that interfaces aren't being adapted to new interaction paradigms. I have a toshiba tablet laying around, I can get enlightment going (which is the only WM that has *any* tablet environment worth mentioning, ie: a proper on-screen keyboard, a sane task bar for a tablet interface, just to name the bare minimums) which is all nice an dandy, but when the time comes to use any application (from your standard text editor to open office or even your web browser) the interface is exactly the same as it's desktop counter-part. actually it's not a counter-part, it's the exact same app, and that's the gist of it right there.


The effort to adapt applications to a tablet paradigm is simply null (care to correct me<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.?). you can have your window manager, but if developers don't start to adapt their interfaces linux won't only be behind the curve, it will fall behind pretty badly.


I'm mentioning linux but any tablet running win7 will suffer from the same problem. is there a custom version of office for the HP slate? no. is there a version of iwork for the iPad? Yes.


on a side note: the auhor through out the entire article bashes DRM and then uses Flash as a punchline to make a point. slightly hypocritical, on one hand he hates DRM and the freedom it takes away and on the other condones the use of proprietary formats on the web. I wish people were consistent as to were they stand regarding freedom.</htmltext>
<tokenext>People can run linux on pretty much anything , that does n't change the fact that interfaces are n't being adapted to new interaction paradigms .
I have a toshiba tablet laying around , I can get enlightment going ( which is the only WM that has * any * tablet environment worth mentioning , ie : a proper on-screen keyboard , a sane task bar for a tablet interface , just to name the bare minimums ) which is all nice an dandy , but when the time comes to use any application ( from your standard text editor to open office or even your web browser ) the interface is exactly the same as it 's desktop counter-part .
actually it 's not a counter-part , it 's the exact same app , and that 's the gist of it right there .
The effort to adapt applications to a tablet paradigm is simply null ( care to correct me /. ? ) .
you can have your window manager , but if developers do n't start to adapt their interfaces linux wo n't only be behind the curve , it will fall behind pretty badly .
I 'm mentioning linux but any tablet running win7 will suffer from the same problem .
is there a custom version of office for the HP slate ?
no. is there a version of iwork for the iPad ?
Yes . on a side note : the auhor through out the entire article bashes DRM and then uses Flash as a punchline to make a point .
slightly hypocritical , on one hand he hates DRM and the freedom it takes away and on the other condones the use of proprietary formats on the web .
I wish people were consistent as to were they stand regarding freedom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People can run linux on pretty much anything, that doesn't change the fact that interfaces aren't being adapted to new interaction paradigms.
I have a toshiba tablet laying around, I can get enlightment going (which is the only WM that has *any* tablet environment worth mentioning, ie: a proper on-screen keyboard, a sane task bar for a tablet interface, just to name the bare minimums) which is all nice an dandy, but when the time comes to use any application (from your standard text editor to open office or even your web browser) the interface is exactly the same as it's desktop counter-part.
actually it's not a counter-part, it's the exact same app, and that's the gist of it right there.
The effort to adapt applications to a tablet paradigm is simply null (care to correct me /.?).
you can have your window manager, but if developers don't start to adapt their interfaces linux won't only be behind the curve, it will fall behind pretty badly.
I'm mentioning linux but any tablet running win7 will suffer from the same problem.
is there a custom version of office for the HP slate?
no. is there a version of iwork for the iPad?
Yes.


on a side note: the auhor through out the entire article bashes DRM and then uses Flash as a punchline to make a point.
slightly hypocritical, on one hand he hates DRM and the freedom it takes away and on the other condones the use of proprietary formats on the web.
I wish people were consistent as to were they stand regarding freedom.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459568</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>dogmatixpsych</author>
	<datestamp>1268401320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have no problem reading books on my iPod Touch out in broad daylight. I might have to tip it a bit but I can still read it in the daylight. I'll take the nice bright color screen over that of an ebook any day (e-ink is nice but I still prefer the color LCD screen).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have no problem reading books on my iPod Touch out in broad daylight .
I might have to tip it a bit but I can still read it in the daylight .
I 'll take the nice bright color screen over that of an ebook any day ( e-ink is nice but I still prefer the color LCD screen ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have no problem reading books on my iPod Touch out in broad daylight.
I might have to tip it a bit but I can still read it in the daylight.
I'll take the nice bright color screen over that of an ebook any day (e-ink is nice but I still prefer the color LCD screen).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457476</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457356</id>
	<title>Re:Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>DdJ</author>
	<datestamp>1268391540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An example of what you're missing is, well, consider menu (or button) bar placement.  On a mouse-based UI, there's no downside to putting that at the top of the screen.  On a touch-based UI, putting that at the top of the screen means your hand covers up the screen when you use it.</p><p>A really good touch UI isn't going to have a whole lot in common with a really good mouse-based UI.  Awful ones can share a lot, but good ones won't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An example of what you 're missing is , well , consider menu ( or button ) bar placement .
On a mouse-based UI , there 's no downside to putting that at the top of the screen .
On a touch-based UI , putting that at the top of the screen means your hand covers up the screen when you use it.A really good touch UI is n't going to have a whole lot in common with a really good mouse-based UI .
Awful ones can share a lot , but good ones wo n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An example of what you're missing is, well, consider menu (or button) bar placement.
On a mouse-based UI, there's no downside to putting that at the top of the screen.
On a touch-based UI, putting that at the top of the screen means your hand covers up the screen when you use it.A really good touch UI isn't going to have a whole lot in common with a really good mouse-based UI.
Awful ones can share a lot, but good ones won't.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457092</id>
	<title>Re:Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>bretticus</author>
	<datestamp>1268390580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Gestures and multi-touch I'd guess.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gestures and multi-touch I 'd guess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gestures and multi-touch I'd guess.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457816</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, where are they??? An answer of sorts</title>
	<author>SargentDU</author>
	<datestamp>1268393520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You say you've waited for years, well, you could wait some more. As you should know, technology gets lower cost as you wait. So eventually you can get your reader at lower cost and be free of DRM then too.  You could download the classics from the free pdf format sites (Project Gutenberg is one) and have great value, if you are a little more patient.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You say you 've waited for years , well , you could wait some more .
As you should know , technology gets lower cost as you wait .
So eventually you can get your reader at lower cost and be free of DRM then too .
You could download the classics from the free pdf format sites ( Project Gutenberg is one ) and have great value , if you are a little more patient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You say you've waited for years, well, you could wait some more.
As you should know, technology gets lower cost as you wait.
So eventually you can get your reader at lower cost and be free of DRM then too.
You could download the classics from the free pdf format sites (Project Gutenberg is one) and have great value, if you are a little more patient.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456822</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456982</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>repetty</author>
	<datestamp>1268390160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;  That's the genius of the iPad, loads of software apps designed for<br>&gt;  a touch screen interface. Hence why Apple based it on the iPhone<br>&gt;  not the Mac.</p><p>None of that matters on Slashdot. It's all about hardware, here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; That 's the genius of the iPad , loads of software apps designed for &gt; a touch screen interface .
Hence why Apple based it on the iPhone &gt; not the Mac.None of that matters on Slashdot .
It 's all about hardware , here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;  That's the genius of the iPad, loads of software apps designed for&gt;  a touch screen interface.
Hence why Apple based it on the iPhone&gt;  not the Mac.None of that matters on Slashdot.
It's all about hardware, here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31462532</id>
	<title>Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268472900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[quote]I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years. [/quote]</p><p>This obviously comes from someone who either doesn't read on electronic devices, or has no problems reading novels on the TV screen.<br>Unless they resolve the backlit screen issue with reading, I'll stick to my Sony e-reader, thanks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ quote ] I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon 's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years .
[ /quote ] This obviously comes from someone who either does n't read on electronic devices , or has no problems reading novels on the TV screen.Unless they resolve the backlit screen issue with reading , I 'll stick to my Sony e-reader , thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[quote]I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years.
[/quote]This obviously comes from someone who either doesn't read on electronic devices, or has no problems reading novels on the TV screen.Unless they resolve the backlit screen issue with reading, I'll stick to my Sony e-reader, thanks.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457538</id>
	<title>"50 ARM-processor-powered iPad clones"</title>
	<author>Ukab the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1268392380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wouldn't a 50 arm processor-powered iPad clone be really heavy and go through its battery life in 5 minutes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't a 50 arm processor-powered iPad clone be really heavy and go through its battery life in 5 minutes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't a 50 arm processor-powered iPad clone be really heavy and go through its battery life in 5 minutes?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457698</id>
	<title>Re:Linux may rule this space quickly...</title>
	<author>EvanED</author>
	<datestamp>1268393100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>OOo 3.2 is feature-competitive with Office 2007 (with the exception of the playskool ribbon).</i></p><p>And Impress/PowerPoint.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OOo 3.2 is feature-competitive with Office 2007 ( with the exception of the playskool ribbon ) .And Impress/PowerPoint .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OOo 3.2 is feature-competitive with Office 2007 (with the exception of the playskool ribbon).And Impress/PowerPoint.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457004</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31467292</id>
	<title>Yes! iWant</title>
	<author>pubwvj</author>
	<datestamp>1268479920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"do you really want to" [buy an iPad]</i></p><p>Yes! Two in fact. It isn't just the software, it is the hardware too and the integration of the two. It will be a long time before anyone approaches the elegance and power of the iPad. By then Apple will also be miles ahead of that.</p><p>Besides, if you detest DRM as much as I do, which is a lot, then read old books. There are hundreds of thousands, millions(?), out there out of copyright. Humans have a long literary history. Skip the recent stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" do you really want to " [ buy an iPad ] Yes !
Two in fact .
It is n't just the software , it is the hardware too and the integration of the two .
It will be a long time before anyone approaches the elegance and power of the iPad .
By then Apple will also be miles ahead of that.Besides , if you detest DRM as much as I do , which is a lot , then read old books .
There are hundreds of thousands , millions ( ?
) , out there out of copyright .
Humans have a long literary history .
Skip the recent stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"do you really want to" [buy an iPad]Yes!
Two in fact.
It isn't just the software, it is the hardware too and the integration of the two.
It will be a long time before anyone approaches the elegance and power of the iPad.
By then Apple will also be miles ahead of that.Besides, if you detest DRM as much as I do, which is a lot, then read old books.
There are hundreds of thousands, millions(?
), out there out of copyright.
Humans have a long literary history.
Skip the recent stuff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460308</id>
	<title>Re:What about the UI</title>
	<author>indiechild</author>
	<datestamp>1268405880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is Slashdot. UI is for weak-willed whiners and pussies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is Slashdot .
UI is for weak-willed whiners and pussies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is Slashdot.
UI is for weak-willed whiners and pussies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31472618</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268586960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet you also want a phone thats just a phone, eh grandpa</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet you also want a phone thats just a phone , eh grandpa</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet you also want a phone thats just a phone, eh grandpa</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456686</id>
	<title>Software</title>
	<author>gilesjuk</author>
	<datestamp>1268389080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unless the software on the Linux devices has been rewritten for a touch interface I don't see why they're worth bothering with.</p><p>That's the genius of the iPad, loads of software apps designed for a touch screen interface. Hence why Apple based it on the iPhone not the Mac.</p><p>Tablets with desktop OS software suck and have been around for years, failing to catch on due to poor usability.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless the software on the Linux devices has been rewritten for a touch interface I do n't see why they 're worth bothering with.That 's the genius of the iPad , loads of software apps designed for a touch screen interface .
Hence why Apple based it on the iPhone not the Mac.Tablets with desktop OS software suck and have been around for years , failing to catch on due to poor usability .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless the software on the Linux devices has been rewritten for a touch interface I don't see why they're worth bothering with.That's the genius of the iPad, loads of software apps designed for a touch screen interface.
Hence why Apple based it on the iPhone not the Mac.Tablets with desktop OS software suck and have been around for years, failing to catch on due to poor usability.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31533296</id>
	<title>not happy here</title>
	<author>tsute'y</author>
	<datestamp>1268938020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>can't anyone manufacture a Tablet  that runs on linux and sell it for sub $150 in Asia ???</htmltext>
<tokenext>ca n't anyone manufacture a Tablet that runs on linux and sell it for sub $ 150 in Asia ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>can't anyone manufacture a Tablet  that runs on linux and sell it for sub $150 in Asia ??
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459496</id>
	<title>Android != Linux</title>
	<author>teknikqa</author>
	<datestamp>1268401020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its ridiculous to see people associate Android with Linux. Sure, its based on the kernel, but we know how little Google contributes back.

Most of these "iPad clones" are Android devices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its ridiculous to see people associate Android with Linux .
Sure , its based on the kernel , but we know how little Google contributes back .
Most of these " iPad clones " are Android devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its ridiculous to see people associate Android with Linux.
Sure, its based on the kernel, but we know how little Google contributes back.
Most of these "iPad clones" are Android devices.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456830</id>
	<title>The app store/3rd party support</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268389560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those are the secret weapons of Apple. When I buy an iPod I can get any number of gadgets for it, not so with other MP3 players that themselves might be more capable and cheaper but don't have this critical mass that makes it worthwhile for others to produce products for it.
</p><p>We have yet to see if the Android app market matches up the iPhone one. Probably not. Oh, I get it myself that having a truly open product allows you to install all the real applications you want and that 99\% of the apps are toys, but I am a geek, the majority is not.
</p><p>There will be a docking station for the iPad for your car so you can hook it to the seat as an entertainment hub for the kids in the back. Not so with any of the competitors. And that will sell the iPad (assuming this won't be one of Apples turds, they have had them you know).
</p><p>A linux pad/tablet/whatever will need to be a whole lot more then an iPad to be considered equal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those are the secret weapons of Apple .
When I buy an iPod I can get any number of gadgets for it , not so with other MP3 players that themselves might be more capable and cheaper but do n't have this critical mass that makes it worthwhile for others to produce products for it .
We have yet to see if the Android app market matches up the iPhone one .
Probably not .
Oh , I get it myself that having a truly open product allows you to install all the real applications you want and that 99 \ % of the apps are toys , but I am a geek , the majority is not .
There will be a docking station for the iPad for your car so you can hook it to the seat as an entertainment hub for the kids in the back .
Not so with any of the competitors .
And that will sell the iPad ( assuming this wo n't be one of Apples turds , they have had them you know ) .
A linux pad/tablet/whatever will need to be a whole lot more then an iPad to be considered equal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those are the secret weapons of Apple.
When I buy an iPod I can get any number of gadgets for it, not so with other MP3 players that themselves might be more capable and cheaper but don't have this critical mass that makes it worthwhile for others to produce products for it.
We have yet to see if the Android app market matches up the iPhone one.
Probably not.
Oh, I get it myself that having a truly open product allows you to install all the real applications you want and that 99\% of the apps are toys, but I am a geek, the majority is not.
There will be a docking station for the iPad for your car so you can hook it to the seat as an entertainment hub for the kids in the back.
Not so with any of the competitors.
And that will sell the iPad (assuming this won't be one of Apples turds, they have had them you know).
A linux pad/tablet/whatever will need to be a whole lot more then an iPad to be considered equal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457146</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268390760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So... build it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So... build it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So... build it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459348</id>
	<title>iPad does not compete with Kindle</title>
	<author>dannys42</author>
	<datestamp>1268400420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Kindle offers numerous advantages (cost, longevity, readability) over the iPad.  For serious book readers, I there's not going to be a huge dent in Kindle sales.</p><p>The iPad will probably suck up any of the "casual" readers in the eBook space.  But honestly, I don't think there's a huge amount of casual readers who would pay for the Kindle.</p><p>That all changes when/if the Kindle can reach a $100 price point.  I don't know if that's possible, but it's certainly more likely than the iPad reaching even $200.  There's also the issue of the monthly fee you won't have to deal with on the Kindle.</p><p>And while as a hacker, I understand the draw to a system that can run anything.  For something like the iPhone and even iPad, I do appreciate the benefits Apple gives us in having a closed system and no multi-tasking.  The thing really "just works."  I don't have to worry about weird incompatibilities or how to close some backgrounded app that I didn't know was running or whatever.  And it's simple to understand.  I launch an app, use it for it's function, then leave it.</p><p>I've used WindowsCE/Mobile systems before and it was a pain... you're always wondering about your battery life and going into the task manager trying to close apps you thought you left.  And having played a little with the Droid, I've seen some apps even in the store that just cause the thing to go dark and unresponsive for 5+ seconds on startup.  I thought I broke the thing.  For devices like this, as a user, I really don't want to bother with all the crap.</p><p>Yes, Apple exerts some dictatorial control for this, which at some times as a developer can be a nuisance.  But overall as a user, I'm happier because of it.  But I think it has a large part due to Apple's emphasis on user experience.  Other companies exerting the same control would likely have much different results.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Kindle offers numerous advantages ( cost , longevity , readability ) over the iPad .
For serious book readers , I there 's not going to be a huge dent in Kindle sales.The iPad will probably suck up any of the " casual " readers in the eBook space .
But honestly , I do n't think there 's a huge amount of casual readers who would pay for the Kindle.That all changes when/if the Kindle can reach a $ 100 price point .
I do n't know if that 's possible , but it 's certainly more likely than the iPad reaching even $ 200 .
There 's also the issue of the monthly fee you wo n't have to deal with on the Kindle.And while as a hacker , I understand the draw to a system that can run anything .
For something like the iPhone and even iPad , I do appreciate the benefits Apple gives us in having a closed system and no multi-tasking .
The thing really " just works .
" I do n't have to worry about weird incompatibilities or how to close some backgrounded app that I did n't know was running or whatever .
And it 's simple to understand .
I launch an app , use it for it 's function , then leave it.I 've used WindowsCE/Mobile systems before and it was a pain... you 're always wondering about your battery life and going into the task manager trying to close apps you thought you left .
And having played a little with the Droid , I 've seen some apps even in the store that just cause the thing to go dark and unresponsive for 5 + seconds on startup .
I thought I broke the thing .
For devices like this , as a user , I really do n't want to bother with all the crap.Yes , Apple exerts some dictatorial control for this , which at some times as a developer can be a nuisance .
But overall as a user , I 'm happier because of it .
But I think it has a large part due to Apple 's emphasis on user experience .
Other companies exerting the same control would likely have much different results .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Kindle offers numerous advantages (cost, longevity, readability) over the iPad.
For serious book readers, I there's not going to be a huge dent in Kindle sales.The iPad will probably suck up any of the "casual" readers in the eBook space.
But honestly, I don't think there's a huge amount of casual readers who would pay for the Kindle.That all changes when/if the Kindle can reach a $100 price point.
I don't know if that's possible, but it's certainly more likely than the iPad reaching even $200.
There's also the issue of the monthly fee you won't have to deal with on the Kindle.And while as a hacker, I understand the draw to a system that can run anything.
For something like the iPhone and even iPad, I do appreciate the benefits Apple gives us in having a closed system and no multi-tasking.
The thing really "just works.
"  I don't have to worry about weird incompatibilities or how to close some backgrounded app that I didn't know was running or whatever.
And it's simple to understand.
I launch an app, use it for it's function, then leave it.I've used WindowsCE/Mobile systems before and it was a pain... you're always wondering about your battery life and going into the task manager trying to close apps you thought you left.
And having played a little with the Droid, I've seen some apps even in the store that just cause the thing to go dark and unresponsive for 5+ seconds on startup.
I thought I broke the thing.
For devices like this, as a user, I really don't want to bother with all the crap.Yes, Apple exerts some dictatorial control for this, which at some times as a developer can be a nuisance.
But overall as a user, I'm happier because of it.
But I think it has a large part due to Apple's emphasis on user experience.
Other companies exerting the same control would likely have much different results.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457924</id>
	<title>Re:Only if screens are as eye-friendly as Kindle's</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268394060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it's a little bit strange how often the e-ink screen is downplayed in the tech-press.  The principle functionality of the kindle is the e-ink screen, not library portability.  Otherwise I'd still be reading old-school off my DS with the backlight tuned down down down (to goblin town).  That said, some people don't delve into books for greater than an hour at a time, so there's no reason an lcd wouldn't work out for them.  And some people program for 12-hour stretches and couldn't care less if their eyeball-fluids be a-boiling.  But some of us read in 3-plus hour chunks, occasionally outside under the sun, and with the Kindle it's like God descended and deep-tissue-rubbed aloe on our corneas (and everywhere else we told Him to).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's a little bit strange how often the e-ink screen is downplayed in the tech-press .
The principle functionality of the kindle is the e-ink screen , not library portability .
Otherwise I 'd still be reading old-school off my DS with the backlight tuned down down down ( to goblin town ) .
That said , some people do n't delve into books for greater than an hour at a time , so there 's no reason an lcd would n't work out for them .
And some people program for 12-hour stretches and could n't care less if their eyeball-fluids be a-boiling .
But some of us read in 3-plus hour chunks , occasionally outside under the sun , and with the Kindle it 's like God descended and deep-tissue-rubbed aloe on our corneas ( and everywhere else we told Him to ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's a little bit strange how often the e-ink screen is downplayed in the tech-press.
The principle functionality of the kindle is the e-ink screen, not library portability.
Otherwise I'd still be reading old-school off my DS with the backlight tuned down down down (to goblin town).
That said, some people don't delve into books for greater than an hour at a time, so there's no reason an lcd wouldn't work out for them.
And some people program for 12-hour stretches and couldn't care less if their eyeball-fluids be a-boiling.
But some of us read in 3-plus hour chunks, occasionally outside under the sun, and with the Kindle it's like God descended and deep-tissue-rubbed aloe on our corneas (and everywhere else we told Him to).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459016</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, where are they???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268399040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Archos has several right now:<br>
&nbsp; http://www.archos.com/home.html?country=us&amp;lang=en</p><p>The JooJoo is taking pre-orders and claims shipping in 8-10 weeks:<br>https://thejoojoo.com/store/order/new</p><p>There are others, but those were off the top of my head.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Archos has several right now :   http : //www.archos.com/home.html ? country = us&amp;lang = enThe JooJoo is taking pre-orders and claims shipping in 8-10 weeks : https : //thejoojoo.com/store/order/newThere are others , but those were off the top of my head .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Archos has several right now:
  http://www.archos.com/home.html?country=us&amp;lang=enThe JooJoo is taking pre-orders and claims shipping in 8-10 weeks:https://thejoojoo.com/store/order/newThere are others, but those were off the top of my head.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458082</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, where are they???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268394960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I've been waiting for a slate <b>media-consumption</b> device like this for YEARS and someone is shipping one next month, that someone happens to be Apple.</p></div><p>Fixed that for you - unless you have some secret evidence that you will be able to perform any desktop-level/laptop-level computing activities on this that you can't perform on any smartphone, or any of the currently available Archos tablets. Also, were you never aware of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TC1100" title="wikipedia.org">Compaq TC1100</a> [wikipedia.org]?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been waiting for a slate media-consumption device like this for YEARS and someone is shipping one next month , that someone happens to be Apple.Fixed that for you - unless you have some secret evidence that you will be able to perform any desktop-level/laptop-level computing activities on this that you ca n't perform on any smartphone , or any of the currently available Archos tablets .
Also , were you never aware of the Compaq TC1100 [ wikipedia.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I've been waiting for a slate media-consumption device like this for YEARS and someone is shipping one next month, that someone happens to be Apple.Fixed that for you - unless you have some secret evidence that you will be able to perform any desktop-level/laptop-level computing activities on this that you can't perform on any smartphone, or any of the currently available Archos tablets.
Also, were you never aware of the Compaq TC1100 [wikipedia.org]?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456700</id>
	<title>But what books?</title>
	<author>OFnow</author>
	<datestamp>1268389140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The key is going to be how easy it is to buy and download books.<br>Kindle gets this right.</p><p>And of course how many books are available.<br>Kindle has a ways to go, though Amazon tries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The key is going to be how easy it is to buy and download books.Kindle gets this right.And of course how many books are available.Kindle has a ways to go , though Amazon tries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The key is going to be how easy it is to buy and download books.Kindle gets this right.And of course how many books are available.Kindle has a ways to go, though Amazon tries.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457632</id>
	<title>Re:Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>EvanED</author>
	<datestamp>1268392740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>An example of what you're missing is, well, consider menu (or button) bar placement. On a mouse-based UI, there's no downside to putting that at the top of the screen. On a touch-based UI, putting that at the top of the screen means your hand covers up the screen when you use it.</i></p><p>As another example, consider scroll bar placement. (This makes less sense with stuff like the iPhone's Safari, where the whole screen basically is the scroll area.) If it's fixed to the right side of the screen, I won't use your app on a touch device. I'm left handed, so having it on the right means that I can't both scroll and see where the present cursor puts the document. I have a Tablet PC (and love it), and used it pretty heavily for a while. Going back to a "normal" computer, it felt really awkward for a while to have the scroll bars back on the right sides of the windows. (Fortunately you can move the location of the scroll bar on both OneNote and Firefox, which by far are the two programs I use most in tablet mode.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An example of what you 're missing is , well , consider menu ( or button ) bar placement .
On a mouse-based UI , there 's no downside to putting that at the top of the screen .
On a touch-based UI , putting that at the top of the screen means your hand covers up the screen when you use it.As another example , consider scroll bar placement .
( This makes less sense with stuff like the iPhone 's Safari , where the whole screen basically is the scroll area .
) If it 's fixed to the right side of the screen , I wo n't use your app on a touch device .
I 'm left handed , so having it on the right means that I ca n't both scroll and see where the present cursor puts the document .
I have a Tablet PC ( and love it ) , and used it pretty heavily for a while .
Going back to a " normal " computer , it felt really awkward for a while to have the scroll bars back on the right sides of the windows .
( Fortunately you can move the location of the scroll bar on both OneNote and Firefox , which by far are the two programs I use most in tablet mode .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An example of what you're missing is, well, consider menu (or button) bar placement.
On a mouse-based UI, there's no downside to putting that at the top of the screen.
On a touch-based UI, putting that at the top of the screen means your hand covers up the screen when you use it.As another example, consider scroll bar placement.
(This makes less sense with stuff like the iPhone's Safari, where the whole screen basically is the scroll area.
) If it's fixed to the right side of the screen, I won't use your app on a touch device.
I'm left handed, so having it on the right means that I can't both scroll and see where the present cursor puts the document.
I have a Tablet PC (and love it), and used it pretty heavily for a while.
Going back to a "normal" computer, it felt really awkward for a while to have the scroll bars back on the right sides of the windows.
(Fortunately you can move the location of the scroll bar on both OneNote and Firefox, which by far are the two programs I use most in tablet mode.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456940</id>
	<title>Re:ergh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268389980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So you're reading Slashdot on one right now?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So you 're reading Slashdot on one right now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you're reading Slashdot on one right now?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456710</id>
	<title>DRM</title>
	<author>99BottlesOfBeerInMyF</author>
	<datestamp>1268389140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> On top of that, Apple will be including DRM on some eBooks and other iPad content.</p></div><p>Wait what? You won't buy devices that companies can sell DRM'd content on? I can see not buying devices where the only content is DRM'd, but devices that support both free and DRM'd formats give me more choices, not fewer. I'm not buying an iPad because I don't fit the target market and it would be pretty useless for me, but your DRM reasoning baffles me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>On top of that , Apple will be including DRM on some eBooks and other iPad content.Wait what ?
You wo n't buy devices that companies can sell DRM 'd content on ?
I can see not buying devices where the only content is DRM 'd , but devices that support both free and DRM 'd formats give me more choices , not fewer .
I 'm not buying an iPad because I do n't fit the target market and it would be pretty useless for me , but your DRM reasoning baffles me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> On top of that, Apple will be including DRM on some eBooks and other iPad content.Wait what?
You won't buy devices that companies can sell DRM'd content on?
I can see not buying devices where the only content is DRM'd, but devices that support both free and DRM'd formats give me more choices, not fewer.
I'm not buying an iPad because I don't fit the target market and it would be pretty useless for me, but your DRM reasoning baffles me.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456690</id>
	<title>Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268389080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>All I want is a low-cost (100$ max), E-ink (reflective, extremely low-power) PDF reader with an SD memory card slot.<br>
<br>
No Web browser<br>
No MP3 player<br>
No Wi-Fi or Bluetooth<br>
No keyboard (touch screen would be nice but at that price I would settle for a gamepad-style interface)</htmltext>
<tokenext>All I want is a low-cost ( 100 $ max ) , E-ink ( reflective , extremely low-power ) PDF reader with an SD memory card slot .
No Web browser No MP3 player No Wi-Fi or Bluetooth No keyboard ( touch screen would be nice but at that price I would settle for a gamepad-style interface )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All I want is a low-cost (100$ max), E-ink (reflective, extremely low-power) PDF reader with an SD memory card slot.
No Web browser
No MP3 player
No Wi-Fi or Bluetooth
No keyboard (touch screen would be nice but at that price I would settle for a gamepad-style interface)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457338</id>
	<title>Re:ergh</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1268391480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a kindle and I sometimes use the kindle reader on an iPod Touch.   There are situations where the Amazon reader on the iTouch blows away the kindle 2.</p><p>It's not a simple matter.  The user experience is a mixture of many different elements.  The clearest, biggest win for the hardware Kindle is the trade-off it achieves between screen size, battery life, and size/weight.</p><p>There are other situations where having a pocketable reader that works in low light is a huge win.</p><p>Then there are things that specific implementations of e-Ink based readers happent to get wrong or which are missing because of the designers didn't think a reader needed them. The touch screen and the availability of a usable keyboard is a *huge* win for the iPod.  The superiority direct manipulation interface for page turning is almost impossible to overstate. I hate the huge click that accompanies page turning on the Kindle.  The iPod also wins in terms of the accuracy of rendering.  Math and technical books that are nearly useless on the Kindle are quite usable on the iPod, despite its small size. You can't even read most diagrams on the Kindle.  I presume that's lousy software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a kindle and I sometimes use the kindle reader on an iPod Touch .
There are situations where the Amazon reader on the iTouch blows away the kindle 2.It 's not a simple matter .
The user experience is a mixture of many different elements .
The clearest , biggest win for the hardware Kindle is the trade-off it achieves between screen size , battery life , and size/weight.There are other situations where having a pocketable reader that works in low light is a huge win.Then there are things that specific implementations of e-Ink based readers happent to get wrong or which are missing because of the designers did n't think a reader needed them .
The touch screen and the availability of a usable keyboard is a * huge * win for the iPod .
The superiority direct manipulation interface for page turning is almost impossible to overstate .
I hate the huge click that accompanies page turning on the Kindle .
The iPod also wins in terms of the accuracy of rendering .
Math and technical books that are nearly useless on the Kindle are quite usable on the iPod , despite its small size .
You ca n't even read most diagrams on the Kindle .
I presume that 's lousy software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a kindle and I sometimes use the kindle reader on an iPod Touch.
There are situations where the Amazon reader on the iTouch blows away the kindle 2.It's not a simple matter.
The user experience is a mixture of many different elements.
The clearest, biggest win for the hardware Kindle is the trade-off it achieves between screen size, battery life, and size/weight.There are other situations where having a pocketable reader that works in low light is a huge win.Then there are things that specific implementations of e-Ink based readers happent to get wrong or which are missing because of the designers didn't think a reader needed them.
The touch screen and the availability of a usable keyboard is a *huge* win for the iPod.
The superiority direct manipulation interface for page turning is almost impossible to overstate.
I hate the huge click that accompanies page turning on the Kindle.
The iPod also wins in terms of the accuracy of rendering.
Math and technical books that are nearly useless on the Kindle are quite usable on the iPod, despite its small size.
You can't even read most diagrams on the Kindle.
I presume that's lousy software.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457428</id>
	<title>Clones?</title>
	<author>rxan</author>
	<datestamp>1268391900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones...</p></div><p>Wow. The iPad was revealed only after other tablets in the category had been revealed, such as the HP Slate and the Joojoo, yet they are the clones. Nothing seems to be able to escape the distortion field -- not even a Linux enthusiast.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones...Wow .
The iPad was revealed only after other tablets in the category had been revealed , such as the HP Slate and the Joojoo , yet they are the clones .
Nothing seems to be able to escape the distortion field -- not even a Linux enthusiast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones...Wow.
The iPad was revealed only after other tablets in the category had been revealed, such as the HP Slate and the Joojoo, yet they are the clones.
Nothing seems to be able to escape the distortion field -- not even a Linux enthusiast.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456872</id>
	<title>Good for geeks bad for everyone else</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268389680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All the freedom of choice and options that we the geeks find fun interesting only confuse the average user and cripple the usability for them. That is why devices like this only fill a niche market and the iPad/iPhone/iTouch make millions. I'm not trying to start a holy war just contrast the difference and why one is currently more successful than the other.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All the freedom of choice and options that we the geeks find fun interesting only confuse the average user and cripple the usability for them .
That is why devices like this only fill a niche market and the iPad/iPhone/iTouch make millions .
I 'm not trying to start a holy war just contrast the difference and why one is currently more successful than the other .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the freedom of choice and options that we the geeks find fun interesting only confuse the average user and cripple the usability for them.
That is why devices like this only fill a niche market and the iPad/iPhone/iTouch make millions.
I'm not trying to start a holy war just contrast the difference and why one is currently more successful than the other.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457084</id>
	<title>How can it not work out this way?</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1268390520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&gt;  I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years. How can it not work out this way?
</p><p>
Well, one way it wouldn't work out that way is if the general purpose devices really suck at things like ereaders and GPS and so forth.  It's not enough to have the device, the applications have to be there, and they have to work well, and in some cases they have to work well together.  And both the hardware and applications have to be reasonably priced.  These things are not assured.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon 's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years .
How can it not work out this way ?
Well , one way it would n't work out that way is if the general purpose devices really suck at things like ereaders and GPS and so forth .
It 's not enough to have the device , the applications have to be there , and they have to work well , and in some cases they have to work well together .
And both the hardware and applications have to be reasonably priced .
These things are not assured .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
&gt;  I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years.
How can it not work out this way?
Well, one way it wouldn't work out that way is if the general purpose devices really suck at things like ereaders and GPS and so forth.
It's not enough to have the device, the applications have to be there, and they have to work well, and in some cases they have to work well together.
And both the hardware and applications have to be reasonably priced.
These things are not assured.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457782</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Low Ranked Craig</author>
	<datestamp>1268393400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Different people have different wants and needs.</p><p>I want the opposite.  I want all that plus the ability to check e-mail, look at a map, watch a movie, play music, and maybe play a game or two without lugging my laptop for a day trip.  I want to be able to dump images from my camera to see if I need to re shoot anything.  The list goes on.   I don't want to have to carry separate devices for these tasks. </p><p>I won't be getting one immediately, but if the iPhone OS 4.0 multitasking <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/11/more-claims-of-multitasking-in-iphone-os-4-0/" title="macrumors.com">rumors turn out to be true</a> [macrumors.com] I'll get one immediately.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Different people have different wants and needs.I want the opposite .
I want all that plus the ability to check e-mail , look at a map , watch a movie , play music , and maybe play a game or two without lugging my laptop for a day trip .
I want to be able to dump images from my camera to see if I need to re shoot anything .
The list goes on .
I do n't want to have to carry separate devices for these tasks .
I wo n't be getting one immediately , but if the iPhone OS 4.0 multitasking rumors turn out to be true [ macrumors.com ] I 'll get one immediately .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Different people have different wants and needs.I want the opposite.
I want all that plus the ability to check e-mail, look at a map, watch a movie, play music, and maybe play a game or two without lugging my laptop for a day trip.
I want to be able to dump images from my camera to see if I need to re shoot anything.
The list goes on.
I don't want to have to carry separate devices for these tasks.
I won't be getting one immediately, but if the iPhone OS 4.0 multitasking rumors turn out to be true [macrumors.com] I'll get one immediately.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457862</id>
	<title>Re:DRM</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268393700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's saying he won't buy hardware with software preloaded whose sole purpose is to screw him over. That's not an unreasonable position to take.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's saying he wo n't buy hardware with software preloaded whose sole purpose is to screw him over .
That 's not an unreasonable position to take .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's saying he won't buy hardware with software preloaded whose sole purpose is to screw him over.
That's not an unreasonable position to take.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457266</id>
	<title>$30 Power cord?</title>
	<author>MrTripps</author>
	<datestamp>1268391240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously? They charge you an extra $30 for a power cord? I'm guessing the high price for the iPad is for the early adopting Mac fan boys. In a couple of months the price will drop just like it did on the iPhone. I still don't want one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
They charge you an extra $ 30 for a power cord ?
I 'm guessing the high price for the iPad is for the early adopting Mac fan boys .
In a couple of months the price will drop just like it did on the iPhone .
I still do n't want one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
They charge you an extra $30 for a power cord?
I'm guessing the high price for the iPad is for the early adopting Mac fan boys.
In a couple of months the price will drop just like it did on the iPhone.
I still don't want one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459468</id>
	<title>I'm going to save this thread!</title>
	<author>wfolta</author>
	<datestamp>1268400900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only is it touting vaporware "iPad killers", but it's touting Linux-based coming-to-a-store-near-you iPad killers. Actually, retrofitted Linux-based, no-keyboard iPad killers which will have desktop GUIs.</p><p>But wait, there's more: people will buy them rather than the iPad because they want to do the kinds of things you'd do on desktops or laptops with keyboards.</p><p>I'll probably lose Karma over this one... I'm usually not this sarcastic, but this thread is so laughable... it's like  some kind of super-hero movie where you see 100 kamikaze's on bicycles riding towards Godzilla with shouts of victory on their lips.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only is it touting vaporware " iPad killers " , but it 's touting Linux-based coming-to-a-store-near-you iPad killers .
Actually , retrofitted Linux-based , no-keyboard iPad killers which will have desktop GUIs.But wait , there 's more : people will buy them rather than the iPad because they want to do the kinds of things you 'd do on desktops or laptops with keyboards.I 'll probably lose Karma over this one... I 'm usually not this sarcastic , but this thread is so laughable... it 's like some kind of super-hero movie where you see 100 kamikaze 's on bicycles riding towards Godzilla with shouts of victory on their lips .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only is it touting vaporware "iPad killers", but it's touting Linux-based coming-to-a-store-near-you iPad killers.
Actually, retrofitted Linux-based, no-keyboard iPad killers which will have desktop GUIs.But wait, there's more: people will buy them rather than the iPad because they want to do the kinds of things you'd do on desktops or laptops with keyboards.I'll probably lose Karma over this one... I'm usually not this sarcastic, but this thread is so laughable... it's like  some kind of super-hero movie where you see 100 kamikaze's on bicycles riding towards Godzilla with shouts of victory on their lips.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31469190</id>
	<title>GPS Replacement?  Hardly.</title>
	<author>Flwyd</author>
	<datestamp>1268495400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kindle killer?  Fine.  But a tablet computer is an astoundingly poor replacement for a GPS device.</p><p>My Garmin device fits in my camera bag, takes 2 AA batteries, and is sturdy enough to drop off the side of a mountain into a brook.  <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/do\_the\_new\_tablets\_own\_up\_to" title="theonion.com">Tablets won't do that very well.</a> [theonion.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kindle killer ?
Fine. But a tablet computer is an astoundingly poor replacement for a GPS device.My Garmin device fits in my camera bag , takes 2 AA batteries , and is sturdy enough to drop off the side of a mountain into a brook .
Tablets wo n't do that very well .
[ theonion.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kindle killer?
Fine.  But a tablet computer is an astoundingly poor replacement for a GPS device.My Garmin device fits in my camera bag, takes 2 AA batteries, and is sturdy enough to drop off the side of a mountain into a brook.
Tablets won't do that very well.
[theonion.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456776</id>
	<title>ergh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268389380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more.</i>
<br>
<br>
No you don't; why are there people that just can't understand that to some of us an e-ink screen provides a superior reading experience to a glowing one?</htmltext>
<tokenext>For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more .
No you do n't ; why are there people that just ca n't understand that to some of us an e-ink screen provides a superior reading experience to a glowing one ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more.
No you don't; why are there people that just can't understand that to some of us an e-ink screen provides a superior reading experience to a glowing one?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460352</id>
	<title>Re:DRM</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can see not buying devices where the only content is DRM'd, but devices that support both free and DRM'd formats give me more choices, not fewer.</p></div><p>I can see not living in a neighbourhood where the only residents are crack gangs, but neighbourhoods with both honest citizens and crack gangs give me more diversity in my neighbourhood, not less.</p><p>If your objection to DRM is having a company retain control of your purchased device, you don't want it there at all. Intelligent people may disagree but you'd have to be a fucking moron not to understand.</p><p>I hear the kindle is very good as an e-reader. I won't be getting one because the have the capability of deleting books. Any company that has the ability to edit, delete or restrict in any other way books on devices after they sell them won't be selling me one. There is no guarantee that they can't do it to the "non-DRM'd" books as well since they control the device. I am not a fanatic, however, and do have a PS2 and dvd drives that support region encoding. Books are more important to me than games and movies though, and I won't be making the same concession.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can see not buying devices where the only content is DRM 'd , but devices that support both free and DRM 'd formats give me more choices , not fewer.I can see not living in a neighbourhood where the only residents are crack gangs , but neighbourhoods with both honest citizens and crack gangs give me more diversity in my neighbourhood , not less.If your objection to DRM is having a company retain control of your purchased device , you do n't want it there at all .
Intelligent people may disagree but you 'd have to be a fucking moron not to understand.I hear the kindle is very good as an e-reader .
I wo n't be getting one because the have the capability of deleting books .
Any company that has the ability to edit , delete or restrict in any other way books on devices after they sell them wo n't be selling me one .
There is no guarantee that they ca n't do it to the " non-DRM 'd " books as well since they control the device .
I am not a fanatic , however , and do have a PS2 and dvd drives that support region encoding .
Books are more important to me than games and movies though , and I wo n't be making the same concession .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can see not buying devices where the only content is DRM'd, but devices that support both free and DRM'd formats give me more choices, not fewer.I can see not living in a neighbourhood where the only residents are crack gangs, but neighbourhoods with both honest citizens and crack gangs give me more diversity in my neighbourhood, not less.If your objection to DRM is having a company retain control of your purchased device, you don't want it there at all.
Intelligent people may disagree but you'd have to be a fucking moron not to understand.I hear the kindle is very good as an e-reader.
I won't be getting one because the have the capability of deleting books.
Any company that has the ability to edit, delete or restrict in any other way books on devices after they sell them won't be selling me one.
There is no guarantee that they can't do it to the "non-DRM'd" books as well since they control the device.
I am not a fanatic, however, and do have a PS2 and dvd drives that support region encoding.
Books are more important to me than games and movies though, and I won't be making the same concession.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458108</id>
	<title>Re:GPS devices</title>
	<author>EnglishTim</author>
	<datestamp>1268395080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Er... you've been able to buy TomTom for WinMo for several years now - the maps are stored on a memory card. I have it on an old GPS-enabled Windows Mobile phone that I now only use for GPS. I've had both CoPilot and TomTom on it - both were installed to the memory card.</p><p>Back when I got that phone I was looking at dedicated GPS units and a lot of them were just GPS-enabled Windows Mobile PDAs.</p><p>It tends to only be the free navigation solutions (or the ones built for non-smartphones) that don't store the data locally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Er... you 've been able to buy TomTom for WinMo for several years now - the maps are stored on a memory card .
I have it on an old GPS-enabled Windows Mobile phone that I now only use for GPS .
I 've had both CoPilot and TomTom on it - both were installed to the memory card.Back when I got that phone I was looking at dedicated GPS units and a lot of them were just GPS-enabled Windows Mobile PDAs.It tends to only be the free navigation solutions ( or the ones built for non-smartphones ) that do n't store the data locally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Er... you've been able to buy TomTom for WinMo for several years now - the maps are stored on a memory card.
I have it on an old GPS-enabled Windows Mobile phone that I now only use for GPS.
I've had both CoPilot and TomTom on it - both were installed to the memory card.Back when I got that phone I was looking at dedicated GPS units and a lot of them were just GPS-enabled Windows Mobile PDAs.It tends to only be the free navigation solutions (or the ones built for non-smartphones) that don't store the data locally.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458934</id>
	<title>Re:Why will people buy iPads?</title>
	<author>cynyr</author>
	<datestamp>1268398620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All of the apps I care about on my mobile platform have either been rejected by apple/ATT, are not available, or just not unique enough for them to be stuck to the iPhone.
</p><p>A short list off the top of my head; a terminal with SSH/bash, a IM client capable of connecting to just about everything(pidgin/empathy), VNC/rdesktop/X11 forwarding, webbrowser with flash that supports doing things like running a flash app(pandora/lastFM) in the background while doing other browsing.
</p><p>The thing really killing the iPad for me is the lack of multitasking. If i have a device to read ebooks on, that can also play music I expect to do both at the same time. I also expect it to not care about bandwidth hungry apps when on wifi and even to some extent on 3G. I can manage my bandwidth pretty well on my own thanks.
</p><p>For me the linux tablet isn't so much about micromanaging what it does, but the fact that I'm looking for a couch browsing device that can then also connect to my desktop/HTPC and let me do stuff to it. Boxee/XBMC/mythtv remote anyone(even better if it's easy to add an IR LED to it so it can control other things too)?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All of the apps I care about on my mobile platform have either been rejected by apple/ATT , are not available , or just not unique enough for them to be stuck to the iPhone .
A short list off the top of my head ; a terminal with SSH/bash , a IM client capable of connecting to just about everything ( pidgin/empathy ) , VNC/rdesktop/X11 forwarding , webbrowser with flash that supports doing things like running a flash app ( pandora/lastFM ) in the background while doing other browsing .
The thing really killing the iPad for me is the lack of multitasking .
If i have a device to read ebooks on , that can also play music I expect to do both at the same time .
I also expect it to not care about bandwidth hungry apps when on wifi and even to some extent on 3G .
I can manage my bandwidth pretty well on my own thanks .
For me the linux tablet is n't so much about micromanaging what it does , but the fact that I 'm looking for a couch browsing device that can then also connect to my desktop/HTPC and let me do stuff to it .
Boxee/XBMC/mythtv remote anyone ( even better if it 's easy to add an IR LED to it so it can control other things too ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of the apps I care about on my mobile platform have either been rejected by apple/ATT, are not available, or just not unique enough for them to be stuck to the iPhone.
A short list off the top of my head; a terminal with SSH/bash, a IM client capable of connecting to just about everything(pidgin/empathy), VNC/rdesktop/X11 forwarding, webbrowser with flash that supports doing things like running a flash app(pandora/lastFM) in the background while doing other browsing.
The thing really killing the iPad for me is the lack of multitasking.
If i have a device to read ebooks on, that can also play music I expect to do both at the same time.
I also expect it to not care about bandwidth hungry apps when on wifi and even to some extent on 3G.
I can manage my bandwidth pretty well on my own thanks.
For me the linux tablet isn't so much about micromanaging what it does, but the fact that I'm looking for a couch browsing device that can then also connect to my desktop/HTPC and let me do stuff to it.
Boxee/XBMC/mythtv remote anyone(even better if it's easy to add an IR LED to it so it can control other things too)?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457846</id>
	<title>Not Apple -- Microsoft!</title>
	<author>NicknamesAreStupid</author>
	<datestamp>1268393640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is most likely to marginalize Microsoft even further.  The big desktop boxes and laptops will still belong mostly to Microsoft, but anything more portable will be tough sledding for Redmond.  Intel might not get much market share either, certainly not a dominant share.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is most likely to marginalize Microsoft even further .
The big desktop boxes and laptops will still belong mostly to Microsoft , but anything more portable will be tough sledding for Redmond .
Intel might not get much market share either , certainly not a dominant share .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is most likely to marginalize Microsoft even further.
The big desktop boxes and laptops will still belong mostly to Microsoft, but anything more portable will be tough sledding for Redmond.
Intel might not get much market share either, certainly not a dominant share.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456948</id>
	<title>Kill off e-readers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268390040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only by way of growing into a merger between the two. The e-ink screens are the sole reason to get an e-reader, and the lack thereof is also the prime reason the iPad is worthless for heavy reading. Until we have quick rendering high color e-ink screens, which would allow a single device to fill the purposes both an iPad and an e-reader fill now, nobody is killing anybody.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only by way of growing into a merger between the two .
The e-ink screens are the sole reason to get an e-reader , and the lack thereof is also the prime reason the iPad is worthless for heavy reading .
Until we have quick rendering high color e-ink screens , which would allow a single device to fill the purposes both an iPad and an e-reader fill now , nobody is killing anybody .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only by way of growing into a merger between the two.
The e-ink screens are the sole reason to get an e-reader, and the lack thereof is also the prime reason the iPad is worthless for heavy reading.
Until we have quick rendering high color e-ink screens, which would allow a single device to fill the purposes both an iPad and an e-reader fill now, nobody is killing anybody.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31468370</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268487900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The SONY eBook Pocket Reader is exactly what you want</p></div><p>Have you actually tried it? This thing is horrible for reading PDFs, not only the screen resolution doesn't fit an "A4" PDF page, but zooming makes tables, figures and listings loose their formating and become unreadable.<br>I bought one for reading PDFs, but I had to return it and I'm now waiting for the iPad, because my experience reading documents on my iPhone is way better than any e-Ink device I ever tried.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The SONY eBook Pocket Reader is exactly what you wantHave you actually tried it ?
This thing is horrible for reading PDFs , not only the screen resolution does n't fit an " A4 " PDF page , but zooming makes tables , figures and listings loose their formating and become unreadable.I bought one for reading PDFs , but I had to return it and I 'm now waiting for the iPad , because my experience reading documents on my iPhone is way better than any e-Ink device I ever tried .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The SONY eBook Pocket Reader is exactly what you wantHave you actually tried it?
This thing is horrible for reading PDFs, not only the screen resolution doesn't fit an "A4" PDF page, but zooming makes tables, figures and listings loose their formating and become unreadable.I bought one for reading PDFs, but I had to return it and I'm now waiting for the iPad, because my experience reading documents on my iPhone is way better than any e-Ink device I ever tried.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457066</id>
	<title>Re:Why will people buy iPads?</title>
	<author>ultrabot</author>
	<datestamp>1268390460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's apps that sell hardware, not operating system awesomeness.</p></div><p>Funny, I thought a cheap device with a good browser would land a purchase or two.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's apps that sell hardware , not operating system awesomeness.Funny , I thought a cheap device with a good browser would land a purchase or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's apps that sell hardware, not operating system awesomeness.Funny, I thought a cheap device with a good browser would land a purchase or two.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456798</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456714</id>
	<title>2010</title>
	<author>Kell Bengal</author>
	<datestamp>1268389140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>2010: Year of the Linux Deskt- er... Lapt- wait... no.. er... palmt-... no no... hmm.<br> <br>
'Tabletop'?</htmltext>
<tokenext>2010 : Year of the Linux Deskt- er... Lapt- wait... no.. er... palmt-... no no... hmm . 'Tabletop ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2010: Year of the Linux Deskt- er... Lapt- wait... no.. er... palmt-... no no... hmm. 
'Tabletop'?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460552</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268407800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you seen android?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you seen android ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you seen android?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456686</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456968</id>
	<title>IPS Pannel</title>
	<author>failedlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1268390100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This seems like its another attempt at a convergence device, which is really what Apple has become. Apple was touting their iPad as the screen has an IPS pannel. I could see this improving video and graphics quality - for images, games and video. I don't know if this will make it better as an e-book reader.</p><p>I don't see this device being a tremendously great e-book reader. I'm waiting for some e-ink ones to come down in price. Nice flashy backlit-LCD screen does not work for me as an ebook reader.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This seems like its another attempt at a convergence device , which is really what Apple has become .
Apple was touting their iPad as the screen has an IPS pannel .
I could see this improving video and graphics quality - for images , games and video .
I do n't know if this will make it better as an e-book reader.I do n't see this device being a tremendously great e-book reader .
I 'm waiting for some e-ink ones to come down in price .
Nice flashy backlit-LCD screen does not work for me as an ebook reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This seems like its another attempt at a convergence device, which is really what Apple has become.
Apple was touting their iPad as the screen has an IPS pannel.
I could see this improving video and graphics quality - for images, games and video.
I don't know if this will make it better as an e-book reader.I don't see this device being a tremendously great e-book reader.
I'm waiting for some e-ink ones to come down in price.
Nice flashy backlit-LCD screen does not work for me as an ebook reader.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31462264</id>
	<title>Re:DRM</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268511540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Following your logic, you must also be bisexual.  I mean why restrict yourself when you can have sex with women and men?  And it shouldn't be unfamiliar since using DRM ladened crap is like taking it up the ass anyhow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Following your logic , you must also be bisexual .
I mean why restrict yourself when you can have sex with women and men ?
And it should n't be unfamiliar since using DRM ladened crap is like taking it up the ass anyhow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Following your logic, you must also be bisexual.
I mean why restrict yourself when you can have sex with women and men?
And it shouldn't be unfamiliar since using DRM ladened crap is like taking it up the ass anyhow.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456710</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457642</id>
	<title>Re:GPS devices</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1268392800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My G1 has very accurate G1. yeah, the iPhone's GPS is crap, but that doesn't apply to all smart phones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My G1 has very accurate G1 .
yeah , the iPhone 's GPS is crap , but that does n't apply to all smart phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My G1 has very accurate G1.
yeah, the iPhone's GPS is crap, but that doesn't apply to all smart phones.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456802</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459536</id>
	<title>Re:ergh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268401200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have both.  E-ink does not provide a superior reading experience.  E-ink provides a superior reading experience <i>in bright sunlight.</i></p><p>In low-light conditions, such as reading in bed with the lamp dimmed, I prefer LCD.  Actually, I prefer LCD under any artificial light.</p><p>I bought an ebook reader for long trips (battery life) and for when I have a few minutes to spare and don't want to spend the time booting my netbook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have both .
E-ink does not provide a superior reading experience .
E-ink provides a superior reading experience in bright sunlight.In low-light conditions , such as reading in bed with the lamp dimmed , I prefer LCD .
Actually , I prefer LCD under any artificial light.I bought an ebook reader for long trips ( battery life ) and for when I have a few minutes to spare and do n't want to spend the time booting my netbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have both.
E-ink does not provide a superior reading experience.
E-ink provides a superior reading experience in bright sunlight.In low-light conditions, such as reading in bed with the lamp dimmed, I prefer LCD.
Actually, I prefer LCD under any artificial light.I bought an ebook reader for long trips (battery life) and for when I have a few minutes to spare and don't want to spend the time booting my netbook.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456776</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457588</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1268392560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>No Web browser</i> Check. E-ink sucks for web browsing<br>
<i>No MP3 player</i> I think listening to music while reading would be nice, but only if I don't have to sacrifice battery life for it.<br>
<i>No Wi-Fi or Bluetooth</i> Bluetooth is useless in an eBook reader. Free WiFi hotspots are pretty ubiquitous now, so having a WiFi for downloading content (especially periodicals and other time-sensitive content) would be a nice feature. Yes, you wouldn't want to leave it on all the time, because it would kill your battery life.<br>
<i>No keyboard</i> No argument from me there. All it needs is a simple, reliable user interface that allows downloading content, selecting content, paging through content, bookmarking, and searching content. For serious educational reading, you would need a touchscreen that allows annotation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No Web browser Check .
E-ink sucks for web browsing No MP3 player I think listening to music while reading would be nice , but only if I do n't have to sacrifice battery life for it .
No Wi-Fi or Bluetooth Bluetooth is useless in an eBook reader .
Free WiFi hotspots are pretty ubiquitous now , so having a WiFi for downloading content ( especially periodicals and other time-sensitive content ) would be a nice feature .
Yes , you would n't want to leave it on all the time , because it would kill your battery life .
No keyboard No argument from me there .
All it needs is a simple , reliable user interface that allows downloading content , selecting content , paging through content , bookmarking , and searching content .
For serious educational reading , you would need a touchscreen that allows annotation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No Web browser Check.
E-ink sucks for web browsing
No MP3 player I think listening to music while reading would be nice, but only if I don't have to sacrifice battery life for it.
No Wi-Fi or Bluetooth Bluetooth is useless in an eBook reader.
Free WiFi hotspots are pretty ubiquitous now, so having a WiFi for downloading content (especially periodicals and other time-sensitive content) would be a nice feature.
Yes, you wouldn't want to leave it on all the time, because it would kill your battery life.
No keyboard No argument from me there.
All it needs is a simple, reliable user interface that allows downloading content, selecting content, paging through content, bookmarking, and searching content.
For serious educational reading, you would need a touchscreen that allows annotation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456690</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31463556</id>
	<title>Re:Android</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268491620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It should take a developer about a week to learn a language, Objective-C or Java. Going between the two isn't exactly hard. Learning the CocoaTouch framework? A couple weeks of solid work and you will master it, same goes for any reasonable Java UI library.</p><p>I'm not sure what the problem is. Why limit yourself?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It should take a developer about a week to learn a language , Objective-C or Java .
Going between the two is n't exactly hard .
Learning the CocoaTouch framework ?
A couple weeks of solid work and you will master it , same goes for any reasonable Java UI library.I 'm not sure what the problem is .
Why limit yourself ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should take a developer about a week to learn a language, Objective-C or Java.
Going between the two isn't exactly hard.
Learning the CocoaTouch framework?
A couple weeks of solid work and you will master it, same goes for any reasonable Java UI library.I'm not sure what the problem is.
Why limit yourself?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456844</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457954</id>
	<title>Linux-powered iPad Devices?</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1268394240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's like saying Linux-powered Dell Device. The iPad is a as yet unavailable large-format portable computing device in a long line of existing large-format portable computing devices. Let's at least wait until a single consumer owns one before before we pretend Apple invented the category.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's like saying Linux-powered Dell Device .
The iPad is a as yet unavailable large-format portable computing device in a long line of existing large-format portable computing devices .
Let 's at least wait until a single consumer owns one before before we pretend Apple invented the category .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's like saying Linux-powered Dell Device.
The iPad is a as yet unavailable large-format portable computing device in a long line of existing large-format portable computing devices.
Let's at least wait until a single consumer owns one before before we pretend Apple invented the category.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31480648</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>lucian1900</author>
	<datestamp>1268660640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Maemo tablets have been around for years.

Also, there are several Android tablets coming out, the most impressive being the Adam tablet.

What's so genius about a large iPod Touch?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Maemo tablets have been around for years .
Also , there are several Android tablets coming out , the most impressive being the Adam tablet .
What 's so genius about a large iPod Touch ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Maemo tablets have been around for years.
Also, there are several Android tablets coming out, the most impressive being the Adam tablet.
What's so genius about a large iPod Touch?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456686</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457004</id>
	<title>Linux may rule this space quickly...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268390220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...because it already has a lot of presence. It's not like we're going to be seeing a lot of clunky nerd-only devices in this space, not after years of trial-error-improvement cycles from major device mfrs (HP, IBM, Sharp, etc etc).  And it's a natural evolution from the Kindle, Zaurus, your cable box and routers, etc etc and all those doodads that already run Linux behind the scenes.  Admittedly, I'm overly impressed with the Nokia N900 -- particularly because of the Debian connection. The N900 is already a small multifunction tablet with gobs of power, memory, and near-laptop-function in a cellphone. If I could have it larger form with a BT headset, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.  It's *exactly* the use case scenarios that Apple has in mind for the iPad, but linux takes away the artificial functional limitations.</p><p>Add onto that the idea that I could load any of the thousands of linux apps in deb format.  Add to that the momentum from Ubuntu and its ilk, and recent news about consolidation of efforts between players such as Nokia &amp; Intel (Moblin &amp; Maemo).  And add to that the subtle threshold that Linux has crossed in terms of ease of use. To wit: Adding software? Permissions are managed far less obtrusively than Win7.  Connecting a camera &amp; syncing photos? The experience is eerily OSX-like.  Using a audio/video player?  Eerily Apple-like, but without the DRM bullsh!t.  Adding a scanner to Linux is now a no-click experience (Xsane figures out what drivers/interfaces you need and configures anything available automagically).  OOo 3.2 is feature-competitive with Office 2007 (with the exception of the playskool ribbon). Linux has been more flexible &amp; stable for the better part of a decade, and is now easier to use than Win7 or even Apple in many, possibly most, instances.   With the cost savings, why in the heck would designers NOT move to Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...because it already has a lot of presence .
It 's not like we 're going to be seeing a lot of clunky nerd-only devices in this space , not after years of trial-error-improvement cycles from major device mfrs ( HP , IBM , Sharp , etc etc ) .
And it 's a natural evolution from the Kindle , Zaurus , your cable box and routers , etc etc and all those doodads that already run Linux behind the scenes .
Admittedly , I 'm overly impressed with the Nokia N900 -- particularly because of the Debian connection .
The N900 is already a small multifunction tablet with gobs of power , memory , and near-laptop-function in a cellphone .
If I could have it larger form with a BT headset , I 'd buy it in a heartbeat .
It 's * exactly * the use case scenarios that Apple has in mind for the iPad , but linux takes away the artificial functional limitations.Add onto that the idea that I could load any of the thousands of linux apps in deb format .
Add to that the momentum from Ubuntu and its ilk , and recent news about consolidation of efforts between players such as Nokia &amp; Intel ( Moblin &amp; Maemo ) .
And add to that the subtle threshold that Linux has crossed in terms of ease of use .
To wit : Adding software ?
Permissions are managed far less obtrusively than Win7 .
Connecting a camera &amp; syncing photos ?
The experience is eerily OSX-like .
Using a audio/video player ?
Eerily Apple-like , but without the DRM bullsh ! t .
Adding a scanner to Linux is now a no-click experience ( Xsane figures out what drivers/interfaces you need and configures anything available automagically ) .
OOo 3.2 is feature-competitive with Office 2007 ( with the exception of the playskool ribbon ) .
Linux has been more flexible &amp; stable for the better part of a decade , and is now easier to use than Win7 or even Apple in many , possibly most , instances .
With the cost savings , why in the heck would designers NOT move to Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...because it already has a lot of presence.
It's not like we're going to be seeing a lot of clunky nerd-only devices in this space, not after years of trial-error-improvement cycles from major device mfrs (HP, IBM, Sharp, etc etc).
And it's a natural evolution from the Kindle, Zaurus, your cable box and routers, etc etc and all those doodads that already run Linux behind the scenes.
Admittedly, I'm overly impressed with the Nokia N900 -- particularly because of the Debian connection.
The N900 is already a small multifunction tablet with gobs of power, memory, and near-laptop-function in a cellphone.
If I could have it larger form with a BT headset, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
It's *exactly* the use case scenarios that Apple has in mind for the iPad, but linux takes away the artificial functional limitations.Add onto that the idea that I could load any of the thousands of linux apps in deb format.
Add to that the momentum from Ubuntu and its ilk, and recent news about consolidation of efforts between players such as Nokia &amp; Intel (Moblin &amp; Maemo).
And add to that the subtle threshold that Linux has crossed in terms of ease of use.
To wit: Adding software?
Permissions are managed far less obtrusively than Win7.
Connecting a camera &amp; syncing photos?
The experience is eerily OSX-like.
Using a audio/video player?
Eerily Apple-like, but without the DRM bullsh!t.
Adding a scanner to Linux is now a no-click experience (Xsane figures out what drivers/interfaces you need and configures anything available automagically).
OOo 3.2 is feature-competitive with Office 2007 (with the exception of the playskool ribbon).
Linux has been more flexible &amp; stable for the better part of a decade, and is now easier to use than Win7 or even Apple in many, possibly most, instances.
With the cost savings, why in the heck would designers NOT move to Linux?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458338</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268396280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Tablets with desktop OS software suck and have been around for years, failing to catch on due to poor usability."<br><br>I own one. They're perfectly usable and caught on where I live.<br><br>The problem is, the mass market didn't catch on due to lack of marketing and branding.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Tablets with desktop OS software suck and have been around for years , failing to catch on due to poor usability .
" I own one .
They 're perfectly usable and caught on where I live.The problem is , the mass market did n't catch on due to lack of marketing and branding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Tablets with desktop OS software suck and have been around for years, failing to catch on due to poor usability.
"I own one.
They're perfectly usable and caught on where I live.The problem is, the mass market didn't catch on due to lack of marketing and branding.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456686</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457334</id>
	<title>Re:Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>Phleg</author>
	<datestamp>1268391480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This mentality is <em>precisely</em> why Windows Mobile has been a complete and utter failure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This mentality is precisely why Windows Mobile has been a complete and utter failure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This mentality is precisely why Windows Mobile has been a complete and utter failure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456868</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31462670</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>acheron12</author>
	<datestamp>1268475720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The iPad screen is larger than 5" though. Sony's Pocket Reader is alright for novels but not for journal articles or other large format PDFs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad screen is larger than 5 " though .
Sony 's Pocket Reader is alright for novels but not for journal articles or other large format PDFs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad screen is larger than 5" though.
Sony's Pocket Reader is alright for novels but not for journal articles or other large format PDFs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31473432</id>
	<title>Re:Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1268594340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is third thing. Getting out of the multibutton mentality.  While there are reasons for more than one mouse button, much to the time it is really a way to make lazy UI decisions.  Furthermore, if the UI has been build for million button mouse rather than a mutlitouch trackpad, it is going to be much harder to move to a touch screen.
<p>
This is the secret of innovation and goof program. Developing not only for what currently exists, but also for what might exist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is third thing .
Getting out of the multibutton mentality .
While there are reasons for more than one mouse button , much to the time it is really a way to make lazy UI decisions .
Furthermore , if the UI has been build for million button mouse rather than a mutlitouch trackpad , it is going to be much harder to move to a touch screen .
This is the secret of innovation and goof program .
Developing not only for what currently exists , but also for what might exist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is third thing.
Getting out of the multibutton mentality.
While there are reasons for more than one mouse button, much to the time it is really a way to make lazy UI decisions.
Furthermore, if the UI has been build for million button mouse rather than a mutlitouch trackpad, it is going to be much harder to move to a touch screen.
This is the secret of innovation and goof program.
Developing not only for what currently exists, but also for what might exist.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457344</id>
	<title>I'm about as pro-apple as it gets....</title>
	<author>fauxhammer</author>
	<datestamp>1268391480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and I expect that, like the iPhone, competitive advantage the iPad will have is a slick, responsive interface that is well thought out and elegant. That said, I'm extremely, extremely skeptical about it overtaking the Kindle, let alone printed books, because it's just not as comfortable to read off of a backlit LCD as it is to read a high quality reflective display like the one the Kindle uses. </p><p>Standard Disclaimer: I support and repair Macs for a living.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and I expect that , like the iPhone , competitive advantage the iPad will have is a slick , responsive interface that is well thought out and elegant .
That said , I 'm extremely , extremely skeptical about it overtaking the Kindle , let alone printed books , because it 's just not as comfortable to read off of a backlit LCD as it is to read a high quality reflective display like the one the Kindle uses .
Standard Disclaimer : I support and repair Macs for a living .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and I expect that, like the iPhone, competitive advantage the iPad will have is a slick, responsive interface that is well thought out and elegant.
That said, I'm extremely, extremely skeptical about it overtaking the Kindle, let alone printed books, because it's just not as comfortable to read off of a backlit LCD as it is to read a high quality reflective display like the one the Kindle uses.
Standard Disclaimer: I support and repair Macs for a living.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456916</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1268389860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd agree with that.  If you're not going to use the command line, there's not much point in using Linux anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd agree with that .
If you 're not going to use the command line , there 's not much point in using Linux anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd agree with that.
If you're not going to use the command line, there's not much point in using Linux anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457884</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, where are they???</title>
	<author>faedle</author>
	<datestamp>1268393820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Archos 5 Internet Tablet.  Runs Android.  Been on the market for about 6 months.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Archos 5 Internet Tablet .
Runs Android .
Been on the market for about 6 months .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Archos 5 Internet Tablet.
Runs Android.
Been on the market for about 6 months.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457422</id>
	<title>Dirt friendly devices</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268391840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would you take your iPad or all purpose device camping or canoeing  instead of a sturdy GPS device.  Those will never be fully replaced.  eBook readers will still apply until they find a way to make LCD screen more book reader friendly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you take your iPad or all purpose device camping or canoeing instead of a sturdy GPS device .
Those will never be fully replaced .
eBook readers will still apply until they find a way to make LCD screen more book reader friendly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you take your iPad or all purpose device camping or canoeing  instead of a sturdy GPS device.
Those will never be fully replaced.
eBook readers will still apply until they find a way to make LCD screen more book reader friendly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456834</id>
	<title>It's the software, stupid</title>
	<author>edelbrp</author>
	<datestamp>1268389560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What gives the iPad its strengths is the software it runs.  It's otherwise a fairly simple device (a touchscreen, yay).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What gives the iPad its strengths is the software it runs .
It 's otherwise a fairly simple device ( a touchscreen , yay ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What gives the iPad its strengths is the software it runs.
It's otherwise a fairly simple device (a touchscreen, yay).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459290</id>
	<title>iKill</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268400180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just like they killed off the iPod and iPhone!  Wait...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like they killed off the iPod and iPhone !
Wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like they killed off the iPod and iPhone!
Wait...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457368</id>
	<title>Linux handheld devices...</title>
	<author>kuzb</author>
	<datestamp>1268391600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...typically fail because the people making them don't want to make them perfect the first time.  This is where Apple wins.  They may not have the most feature rich devices.  They may not give the user the most freedom.  However, they do tend to focus on a very specific set of capabilities and produce a product which meets that criteria really well.

Contrast that to Linux devices which try to do everything and wind up accomplishing half-assed software which is then pushed off to the userbase to fix and improve.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...typically fail because the people making them do n't want to make them perfect the first time .
This is where Apple wins .
They may not have the most feature rich devices .
They may not give the user the most freedom .
However , they do tend to focus on a very specific set of capabilities and produce a product which meets that criteria really well .
Contrast that to Linux devices which try to do everything and wind up accomplishing half-assed software which is then pushed off to the userbase to fix and improve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...typically fail because the people making them don't want to make them perfect the first time.
This is where Apple wins.
They may not have the most feature rich devices.
They may not give the user the most freedom.
However, they do tend to focus on a very specific set of capabilities and produce a product which meets that criteria really well.
Contrast that to Linux devices which try to do everything and wind up accomplishing half-assed software which is then pushed off to the userbase to fix and improve.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31470530</id>
	<title>Cue the stupid Warhammer jokes</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1268599020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>2010: Year of the Linux Tabletop?</p></div><p>Sure.  I have Linux running on my Nokia N40000.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2010 : Year of the Linux Tabletop ? Sure .
I have Linux running on my Nokia N40000 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2010: Year of the Linux Tabletop?Sure.
I have Linux running on my Nokia N40000.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31462798</id>
	<title>I *don't* get it...</title>
	<author>jonadab</author>
	<datestamp>1268478300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; I get why you'd want an iPad. I'd like one too,'<br><br>Yeah, umm, care to explain it to the rest of us, then?<br><br>Why would we want a device that costs more than a midrange desktop computer but has a much smaller storage capacity, a smaller screen, a slower CPU, no keyboard, and no high-resolution pointing device (just touchscreen, which is very low-res), and no ability to be repaired or upgraded?<br><br>Why would I want that?  Why would anyone want that?  Just because Steve Jobs is a gifted and dynamic communicator who presented it really well in his keynote speech?  (Granted, he is a really good public speaker.  Maybe he should run for President.  It worked for Obama.)<br><br>For two-thirds of the cost of the iPad I could get a laptop computer with a larger screen, normal storage capacity, an essentially normal CPU, a mediocre almost-full-size keyboard, and an inconvenient but normal-res pointing device built in, that's just as portable as the iPad when I fold it closed.  If the portability were an extremely important factor for me, I'd go with that.<br><br>And when the portability doesn't matter, obviously, I'll be going with a mid-tower system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; I get why you 'd want an iPad .
I 'd like one too,'Yeah , umm , care to explain it to the rest of us , then ? Why would we want a device that costs more than a midrange desktop computer but has a much smaller storage capacity , a smaller screen , a slower CPU , no keyboard , and no high-resolution pointing device ( just touchscreen , which is very low-res ) , and no ability to be repaired or upgraded ? Why would I want that ?
Why would anyone want that ?
Just because Steve Jobs is a gifted and dynamic communicator who presented it really well in his keynote speech ?
( Granted , he is a really good public speaker .
Maybe he should run for President .
It worked for Obama .
) For two-thirds of the cost of the iPad I could get a laptop computer with a larger screen , normal storage capacity , an essentially normal CPU , a mediocre almost-full-size keyboard , and an inconvenient but normal-res pointing device built in , that 's just as portable as the iPad when I fold it closed .
If the portability were an extremely important factor for me , I 'd go with that.And when the portability does n't matter , obviously , I 'll be going with a mid-tower system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; I get why you'd want an iPad.
I'd like one too,'Yeah, umm, care to explain it to the rest of us, then?Why would we want a device that costs more than a midrange desktop computer but has a much smaller storage capacity, a smaller screen, a slower CPU, no keyboard, and no high-resolution pointing device (just touchscreen, which is very low-res), and no ability to be repaired or upgraded?Why would I want that?
Why would anyone want that?
Just because Steve Jobs is a gifted and dynamic communicator who presented it really well in his keynote speech?
(Granted, he is a really good public speaker.
Maybe he should run for President.
It worked for Obama.
)For two-thirds of the cost of the iPad I could get a laptop computer with a larger screen, normal storage capacity, an essentially normal CPU, a mediocre almost-full-size keyboard, and an inconvenient but normal-res pointing device built in, that's just as portable as the iPad when I fold it closed.
If the portability were an extremely important factor for me, I'd go with that.And when the portability doesn't matter, obviously, I'll be going with a mid-tower system.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456844</id>
	<title>Android</title>
	<author>Massacrifice</author>
	<datestamp>1268389620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And of all these Linux tablets, more than half will run an Android based distro of some form.</p><p>Which is why I've stopped learning Objective-C to concentrate on my embedded Java skills.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And of all these Linux tablets , more than half will run an Android based distro of some form.Which is why I 've stopped learning Objective-C to concentrate on my embedded Java skills .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And of all these Linux tablets, more than half will run an Android based distro of some form.Which is why I've stopped learning Objective-C to concentrate on my embedded Java skills.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31462302</id>
	<title>Re:ergh</title>
	<author>cbhacking</author>
	<datestamp>1268511960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He could be. They don't market it for the purpose, but you can browse the web on the Kindle. It has a full keyboard too, not large or terribly easy to type on but I'd take it over a touch-screen keyboard that covers much of the viewable area.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He could be .
They do n't market it for the purpose , but you can browse the web on the Kindle .
It has a full keyboard too , not large or terribly easy to type on but I 'd take it over a touch-screen keyboard that covers much of the viewable area .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He could be.
They don't market it for the purpose, but you can browse the web on the Kindle.
It has a full keyboard too, not large or terribly easy to type on but I'd take it over a touch-screen keyboard that covers much of the viewable area.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31462692</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268476080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>'Linux rewritten for a touch interface"?</p><p>Like this video from 2006, you mean?</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>Try to keep up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>'Linux rewritten for a touch interface " ? Like this video from 2006 , you mean ? http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = Yx9FgLr9oTk [ youtube.com ] Try to keep up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'Linux rewritten for a touch interface"?Like this video from 2006, you mean?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk [youtube.com]Try to keep up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31461312</id>
	<title>Re:Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>c\_forq</author>
	<datestamp>1268413680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How you interact with data.  There was a great lecture at MIT on on this that is on iTunes.  With the iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch you have to remember you are interacting with the data directly, there is none of the abstraction that a mouse induces.  I think this is best displayed in the iPad photo app, the way you can glide through albums or use a spread gesture to peak inside of stacks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How you interact with data .
There was a great lecture at MIT on on this that is on iTunes .
With the iPad , iPhone , and iPod touch you have to remember you are interacting with the data directly , there is none of the abstraction that a mouse induces .
I think this is best displayed in the iPad photo app , the way you can glide through albums or use a spread gesture to peak inside of stacks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How you interact with data.
There was a great lecture at MIT on on this that is on iTunes.
With the iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch you have to remember you are interacting with the data directly, there is none of the abstraction that a mouse induces.
I think this is best displayed in the iPad photo app, the way you can glide through albums or use a spread gesture to peak inside of stacks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457716</id>
	<title>I stopped myself by digging out my old tc1100</title>
	<author>grapeape</author>
	<datestamp>1268393160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wanted an iPad, and was reading up on tablets in general when I remembered a 6 year old HP tablet I had stashed away because it was simply dreadful under XP.  For fun I dug it out, charged it up and started looking around to see if there were any hacks for it.  Decided to upgrade the ram and drives with parts I had on hand then installed Windows 7 (the only windows device in my house) and after playing with it in its renewed form, im kind of over the iPad.  I still may pick one up in a few generations but what I had and had nearly forgotten lets me do what I want to do with it, has plenty of "apps" available and seems speedy enough, the only thing missing is the 3g card which I can add via either the cardbus slot or usb ports.  My biggest question is why did it take 6 years for something that at least in its current form appears to be step backwards?  Perhaps the a4 will prove much faster than the 1.2 centrino in the tc1100 and the battery life will certainly be better but the lack of features just makes at least the first generation a skippable device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wanted an iPad , and was reading up on tablets in general when I remembered a 6 year old HP tablet I had stashed away because it was simply dreadful under XP .
For fun I dug it out , charged it up and started looking around to see if there were any hacks for it .
Decided to upgrade the ram and drives with parts I had on hand then installed Windows 7 ( the only windows device in my house ) and after playing with it in its renewed form , im kind of over the iPad .
I still may pick one up in a few generations but what I had and had nearly forgotten lets me do what I want to do with it , has plenty of " apps " available and seems speedy enough , the only thing missing is the 3g card which I can add via either the cardbus slot or usb ports .
My biggest question is why did it take 6 years for something that at least in its current form appears to be step backwards ?
Perhaps the a4 will prove much faster than the 1.2 centrino in the tc1100 and the battery life will certainly be better but the lack of features just makes at least the first generation a skippable device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wanted an iPad, and was reading up on tablets in general when I remembered a 6 year old HP tablet I had stashed away because it was simply dreadful under XP.
For fun I dug it out, charged it up and started looking around to see if there were any hacks for it.
Decided to upgrade the ram and drives with parts I had on hand then installed Windows 7 (the only windows device in my house) and after playing with it in its renewed form, im kind of over the iPad.
I still may pick one up in a few generations but what I had and had nearly forgotten lets me do what I want to do with it, has plenty of "apps" available and seems speedy enough, the only thing missing is the 3g card which I can add via either the cardbus slot or usb ports.
My biggest question is why did it take 6 years for something that at least in its current form appears to be step backwards?
Perhaps the a4 will prove much faster than the 1.2 centrino in the tc1100 and the battery life will certainly be better but the lack of features just makes at least the first generation a skippable device.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458580</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, where are they???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268397240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You've been able to buy an Archos Internet Media Tablet with Android for several months now</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've been able to buy an Archos Internet Media Tablet with Android for several months now</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've been able to buy an Archos Internet Media Tablet with Android for several months now</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457624</id>
	<title>Re:What about the UI</title>
	<author>bazaarsoft</author>
	<datestamp>1268392680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Very few people on this site are the target demographic for the iPad, so for them, he's right. Fugly/hard to use UI is an acceptable tradeoff.

OTOH, for the tens of millions that don't want a laptop or something that they have to experiment with to make work easily, there's the iPad. If you're looking for non-partisan discussions of the iPad, you have the wrong site...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very few people on this site are the target demographic for the iPad , so for them , he 's right .
Fugly/hard to use UI is an acceptable tradeoff .
OTOH , for the tens of millions that do n't want a laptop or something that they have to experiment with to make work easily , there 's the iPad .
If you 're looking for non-partisan discussions of the iPad , you have the wrong site.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very few people on this site are the target demographic for the iPad, so for them, he's right.
Fugly/hard to use UI is an acceptable tradeoff.
OTOH, for the tens of millions that don't want a laptop or something that they have to experiment with to make work easily, there's the iPad.
If you're looking for non-partisan discussions of the iPad, you have the wrong site...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456786</id>
	<title>Only if screens are as eye-friendly as Kindle's</title>
	<author>Brian Stretch</author>
	<datestamp>1268389440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can read off my Kindle's e-ink screen with considerably less eye strain than reading off a backlit LCD.  Backlights are hard on your eyes.</p><p>Some tips: sit ~3 feet away from your monitor, turn the backlight down as low as you can without it becoming counterproductive (wanting to lean forward to view the dim screen is bad), look away every once in a while so your eyes aren't fixed on the same close distance for long periods.  For more serious problems you may need vision therapy like I did.  I thought I had ADD until I figured that out.  Oh, that's why I had so much trouble with reading and why my vision got blurry after marathon gaming sessions...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can read off my Kindle 's e-ink screen with considerably less eye strain than reading off a backlit LCD .
Backlights are hard on your eyes.Some tips : sit ~ 3 feet away from your monitor , turn the backlight down as low as you can without it becoming counterproductive ( wanting to lean forward to view the dim screen is bad ) , look away every once in a while so your eyes are n't fixed on the same close distance for long periods .
For more serious problems you may need vision therapy like I did .
I thought I had ADD until I figured that out .
Oh , that 's why I had so much trouble with reading and why my vision got blurry after marathon gaming sessions.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can read off my Kindle's e-ink screen with considerably less eye strain than reading off a backlit LCD.
Backlights are hard on your eyes.Some tips: sit ~3 feet away from your monitor, turn the backlight down as low as you can without it becoming counterproductive (wanting to lean forward to view the dim screen is bad), look away every once in a while so your eyes aren't fixed on the same close distance for long periods.
For more serious problems you may need vision therapy like I did.
I thought I had ADD until I figured that out.
Oh, that's why I had so much trouble with reading and why my vision got blurry after marathon gaming sessions...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460568</id>
	<title>Re:2010</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268407860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly. People who preach that Linux is the Second Coming, immune to the effects and risks of bad design, market forces, competition, buyer apathy and the other slings and arrows of commercial product fortune are knuckleheads. Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols is high on the list because that's how he makes his rent. Don't get me wrong. Linux is great (although I don't use it), but Linux cannot be used <i>in vacuo</i>, only via hardware, and Apple is the only hardware source that is as classy as Linux acolytes like Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols say Linux is. What I see from Linux hardware is an endless stream of crap with too many buttons and too much shiny and flames painted on the side. Linux hardware is lame.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
People who preach that Linux is the Second Coming , immune to the effects and risks of bad design , market forces , competition , buyer apathy and the other slings and arrows of commercial product fortune are knuckleheads .
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols is high on the list because that 's how he makes his rent .
Do n't get me wrong .
Linux is great ( although I do n't use it ) , but Linux can not be used in vacuo , only via hardware , and Apple is the only hardware source that is as classy as Linux acolytes like Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols say Linux is .
What I see from Linux hardware is an endless stream of crap with too many buttons and too much shiny and flames painted on the side .
Linux hardware is lame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
People who preach that Linux is the Second Coming, immune to the effects and risks of bad design, market forces, competition, buyer apathy and the other slings and arrows of commercial product fortune are knuckleheads.
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols is high on the list because that's how he makes his rent.
Don't get me wrong.
Linux is great (although I don't use it), but Linux cannot be used in vacuo, only via hardware, and Apple is the only hardware source that is as classy as Linux acolytes like Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols say Linux is.
What I see from Linux hardware is an endless stream of crap with too many buttons and too much shiny and flames painted on the side.
Linux hardware is lame.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456842</id>
	<title>So much speculation and hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268389620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder how much of it will be wrong in the end?  90\%  95\%  99\%?<br>
<br>
I'm personally not sold on the iPad yet, but then it rarely pays to buy the first generation product of anything.  Who can forget the initial reaction to the iPod?  What was the phrase?  "Too expensive?  No WiFi?  Lame?"  You know what?  That was right on the money.  It would take Apple a couple of generations to really make the iPod a household name.<br>
<br>
How well it clobbers the Kindle and Nook depend entirely on how easy Apple makes it to buy and read books on the thing.  Obviously Amazon and B&amp;N have a pretty good setup already and Apple is going to have to play catchup.  It's certainly a possibility that the iPad completely fizzles as an eBook reader, potentially because too many publishers decide not to play ball and make it difficult to find books you actually want to read.<br>
<br>
The "Linux clone" argument misses the point entirely as well.  Apple isn't selling a device, they're selling an ecology; a lifestyle.  It's the same way they don't sell a music player, it sells an integrated portable storefront with a highly polished and easy to use interface.  It's completely different, and it's the reason all of those clones are going to sit in tiny niches while the iPad outsells them all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how much of it will be wrong in the end ?
90 \ % 95 \ % 99 \ % ?
I 'm personally not sold on the iPad yet , but then it rarely pays to buy the first generation product of anything .
Who can forget the initial reaction to the iPod ?
What was the phrase ?
" Too expensive ?
No WiFi ?
Lame ? " You know what ?
That was right on the money .
It would take Apple a couple of generations to really make the iPod a household name .
How well it clobbers the Kindle and Nook depend entirely on how easy Apple makes it to buy and read books on the thing .
Obviously Amazon and B&amp;N have a pretty good setup already and Apple is going to have to play catchup .
It 's certainly a possibility that the iPad completely fizzles as an eBook reader , potentially because too many publishers decide not to play ball and make it difficult to find books you actually want to read .
The " Linux clone " argument misses the point entirely as well .
Apple is n't selling a device , they 're selling an ecology ; a lifestyle .
It 's the same way they do n't sell a music player , it sells an integrated portable storefront with a highly polished and easy to use interface .
It 's completely different , and it 's the reason all of those clones are going to sit in tiny niches while the iPad outsells them all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how much of it will be wrong in the end?
90\%  95\%  99\%?
I'm personally not sold on the iPad yet, but then it rarely pays to buy the first generation product of anything.
Who can forget the initial reaction to the iPod?
What was the phrase?
"Too expensive?
No WiFi?
Lame?"  You know what?
That was right on the money.
It would take Apple a couple of generations to really make the iPod a household name.
How well it clobbers the Kindle and Nook depend entirely on how easy Apple makes it to buy and read books on the thing.
Obviously Amazon and B&amp;N have a pretty good setup already and Apple is going to have to play catchup.
It's certainly a possibility that the iPad completely fizzles as an eBook reader, potentially because too many publishers decide not to play ball and make it difficult to find books you actually want to read.
The "Linux clone" argument misses the point entirely as well.
Apple isn't selling a device, they're selling an ecology; a lifestyle.
It's the same way they don't sell a music player, it sells an integrated portable storefront with a highly polished and easy to use interface.
It's completely different, and it's the reason all of those clones are going to sit in tiny niches while the iPad outsells them all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31461162</id>
	<title>Re:Adapting a mouse app for touch control</title>
	<author>biglig2</author>
	<datestamp>1268412180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a 2a, which is moving the controls further apart so you hit them cleanly, and a 2b, which is reducing the number of controls so you have room for them after you've done 2 and 2a.</p><p>And as Ultrabot says, 3) add multi-touch style controls as needed, such as flicking or swiping or pinching.</p><p>And I guess 4) reduce UI latency, because not having an app instantly respond feels much more broken when you're actually touching the UI for some reason.</p><p>And 5) reduce dependency on accurate selection. It took apple so long to do Cut+Paste for a reason - accurate selection in a touch UI is difficult.</p><p>Oh, I guess there's a 5a) of changing the UI to accomodate multiple item selection, which you tend to have to do with a seperate checklist mode.</p><p>And 6) ensure you can get to all the UI without right-click/middle-click</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a 2a , which is moving the controls further apart so you hit them cleanly , and a 2b , which is reducing the number of controls so you have room for them after you 've done 2 and 2a.And as Ultrabot says , 3 ) add multi-touch style controls as needed , such as flicking or swiping or pinching.And I guess 4 ) reduce UI latency , because not having an app instantly respond feels much more broken when you 're actually touching the UI for some reason.And 5 ) reduce dependency on accurate selection .
It took apple so long to do Cut + Paste for a reason - accurate selection in a touch UI is difficult.Oh , I guess there 's a 5a ) of changing the UI to accomodate multiple item selection , which you tend to have to do with a seperate checklist mode.And 6 ) ensure you can get to all the UI without right-click/middle-click</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a 2a, which is moving the controls further apart so you hit them cleanly, and a 2b, which is reducing the number of controls so you have room for them after you've done 2 and 2a.And as Ultrabot says, 3) add multi-touch style controls as needed, such as flicking or swiping or pinching.And I guess 4) reduce UI latency, because not having an app instantly respond feels much more broken when you're actually touching the UI for some reason.And 5) reduce dependency on accurate selection.
It took apple so long to do Cut+Paste for a reason - accurate selection in a touch UI is difficult.Oh, I guess there's a 5a) of changing the UI to accomodate multiple item selection, which you tend to have to do with a seperate checklist mode.And 6) ensure you can get to all the UI without right-click/middle-click</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457292</id>
	<title>So according to this summary...</title>
	<author>Moheeheeko</author>
	<datestamp>1268391300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>why by a few things that do stuff really well when i can buy one thing that does all of it poorly?</htmltext>
<tokenext>why by a few things that do stuff really well when i can buy one thing that does all of it poorly ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why by a few things that do stuff really well when i can buy one thing that does all of it poorly?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458612</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, where are they???</title>
	<author>EnglishTim</author>
	<datestamp>1268397300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are already several Android tablet devices out there which you can buy right now.</p><p>Personally, I want something you can also draw on with a stylus for annotating documents, sketching etc. I'd like to use it at work to replace my notepad and printed out documents.</p><p>I'm guessing the first company who can do a good e-reader / e-notebook will do pretty well in businesses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are already several Android tablet devices out there which you can buy right now.Personally , I want something you can also draw on with a stylus for annotating documents , sketching etc .
I 'd like to use it at work to replace my notepad and printed out documents.I 'm guessing the first company who can do a good e-reader / e-notebook will do pretty well in businesses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are already several Android tablet devices out there which you can buy right now.Personally, I want something you can also draw on with a stylus for annotating documents, sketching etc.
I'd like to use it at work to replace my notepad and printed out documents.I'm guessing the first company who can do a good e-reader / e-notebook will do pretty well in businesses.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457210</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>ajiva</author>
	<datestamp>1268390940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is $160 close enough?</p><p>The SONY eBook Pocket Reader is exactly what you want, but its $160 at Fry's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is $ 160 close enough ? The SONY eBook Pocket Reader is exactly what you want , but its $ 160 at Fry 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is $160 close enough?The SONY eBook Pocket Reader is exactly what you want, but its $160 at Fry's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458774</id>
	<title>Re:The app store/3rd party support</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268397960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A USB interface?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A USB interface ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A USB interface?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31456704</id>
	<title>Hardware clones - yes.  Clones .. no</title>
	<author>OzPeter</author>
	<datestamp>1268389140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was reading on Macrumors today about the data plan pricing structure.  $15/mo for 250MB or $30/mo for unlimited.  With NO CONTRACT<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. all month to month and you can stop and start on a monthly basis at will, and upgrade/downgrade as you choose. </p><p>So I can see the hardware clones coming out of the woodwork, but it is going to take some serious corporate muscle to iron out similar data plans deals like that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was reading on Macrumors today about the data plan pricing structure .
$ 15/mo for 250MB or $ 30/mo for unlimited .
With NO CONTRACT .. all month to month and you can stop and start on a monthly basis at will , and upgrade/downgrade as you choose .
So I can see the hardware clones coming out of the woodwork , but it is going to take some serious corporate muscle to iron out similar data plans deals like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was reading on Macrumors today about the data plan pricing structure.
$15/mo for 250MB or $30/mo for unlimited.
With NO CONTRACT .. all month to month and you can stop and start on a monthly basis at will, and upgrade/downgrade as you choose.
So I can see the hardware clones coming out of the woodwork, but it is going to take some serious corporate muscle to iron out similar data plans deals like that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31459584</id>
	<title>Where can I try Nokia N810?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268401380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Nokia N810</p></div><p>As Karlt1 pointed out, it's nowhere near the size of an iPad, but it might replace an iPod Touch. I'd like to try one. Which United States electronics chain do you recommend that I visit in order to do so?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nokia N810As Karlt1 pointed out , it 's nowhere near the size of an iPad , but it might replace an iPod Touch .
I 'd like to try one .
Which United States electronics chain do you recommend that I visit in order to do so ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nokia N810As Karlt1 pointed out, it's nowhere near the size of an iPad, but it might replace an iPod Touch.
I'd like to try one.
Which United States electronics chain do you recommend that I visit in order to do so?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31461500</id>
	<title>Re:Tivoization</title>
	<author>CleverBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1268415720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Honestly.  If you can't point to a comparable device to the iPad, I'm not sure why you would even post a video.
The whole point is that the iPad is incorporating a bunch of NEW technology that devices of this size and price have not offered before.
How do we know this?  Well, just look at the new HP Slate device.  It is still a prototype... along with the other slate form-factor devices mentioned at CES.  Lenovo just released a new IdeaPad that is the FIRST netbook to have a capacitive touch screen.  It's called the IdeaPad S10-3t. Engadget just did a hands-on and said it was very "meh", and the processor was dissappointingly sluggish. Also, by lacking the IPS screen technology of the iPad, the viewing angles truly sucked.

</p><p>That said, bring on companies who are doing "BETTER" work than Apple.  Choice is absolutely awesome.  But, Apple is intentionally targeting specific solutions, and its not one-size-fits-all.  Let's hope others produce bigger cheaper buckets, but the reason why Apple stuff costs a lot is:

</p><p>#1.) They use high quality components (cheaper solutions usually value price over craftsmanship) and
</p><p>#2.) They really try not to chase after the cut throat PC market by differentiating themselves (often they present a great bargain, but competitors undercut them in weeks-months, and they never reprice until they hit a new product cycle).

</p><p>You can't get something for nothing.  There's always a trade-off, even if you don't see it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly .
If you ca n't point to a comparable device to the iPad , I 'm not sure why you would even post a video .
The whole point is that the iPad is incorporating a bunch of NEW technology that devices of this size and price have not offered before .
How do we know this ?
Well , just look at the new HP Slate device .
It is still a prototype... along with the other slate form-factor devices mentioned at CES .
Lenovo just released a new IdeaPad that is the FIRST netbook to have a capacitive touch screen .
It 's called the IdeaPad S10-3t .
Engadget just did a hands-on and said it was very " meh " , and the processor was dissappointingly sluggish .
Also , by lacking the IPS screen technology of the iPad , the viewing angles truly sucked .
That said , bring on companies who are doing " BETTER " work than Apple .
Choice is absolutely awesome .
But , Apple is intentionally targeting specific solutions , and its not one-size-fits-all .
Let 's hope others produce bigger cheaper buckets , but the reason why Apple stuff costs a lot is : # 1 .
) They use high quality components ( cheaper solutions usually value price over craftsmanship ) and # 2 .
) They really try not to chase after the cut throat PC market by differentiating themselves ( often they present a great bargain , but competitors undercut them in weeks-months , and they never reprice until they hit a new product cycle ) .
You ca n't get something for nothing .
There 's always a trade-off , even if you do n't see it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly.
If you can't point to a comparable device to the iPad, I'm not sure why you would even post a video.
The whole point is that the iPad is incorporating a bunch of NEW technology that devices of this size and price have not offered before.
How do we know this?
Well, just look at the new HP Slate device.
It is still a prototype... along with the other slate form-factor devices mentioned at CES.
Lenovo just released a new IdeaPad that is the FIRST netbook to have a capacitive touch screen.
It's called the IdeaPad S10-3t.
Engadget just did a hands-on and said it was very "meh", and the processor was dissappointingly sluggish.
Also, by lacking the IPS screen technology of the iPad, the viewing angles truly sucked.
That said, bring on companies who are doing "BETTER" work than Apple.
Choice is absolutely awesome.
But, Apple is intentionally targeting specific solutions, and its not one-size-fits-all.
Let's hope others produce bigger cheaper buckets, but the reason why Apple stuff costs a lot is:

#1.
) They use high quality components (cheaper solutions usually value price over craftsmanship) and
#2.
) They really try not to chase after the cut throat PC market by differentiating themselves (often they present a great bargain, but competitors undercut them in weeks-months, and they never reprice until they hit a new product cycle).
You can't get something for nothing.
There's always a trade-off, even if you don't see it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458194</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>EnsilZah</author>
	<datestamp>1268395560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like one too and while not quite as minimal as you've outlined and pricing is not available yet,  <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5454754/asus-dr+950-ebook-reader-gets-its-close+up" title="gizmodo.com">This</a> [gizmodo.com] seems pretty close to what I want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like one too and while not quite as minimal as you 've outlined and pricing is not available yet , This [ gizmodo.com ] seems pretty close to what I want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like one too and while not quite as minimal as you've outlined and pricing is not available yet,  This [gizmodo.com] seems pretty close to what I want.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457062</id>
	<title>What about the UI</title>
	<author>MikeMo</author>
	<datestamp>1268390400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>This post totally ignores the value of the software and user interface on the iPad.  It distills the value of all devices down the hardware, and whether or not the applications will have DRM-d data files.  Thereby, it devalues the work of all user interfaces and programmers everywhere.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This post totally ignores the value of the software and user interface on the iPad .
It distills the value of all devices down the hardware , and whether or not the applications will have DRM-d data files .
Thereby , it devalues the work of all user interfaces and programmers everywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This post totally ignores the value of the software and user interface on the iPad.
It distills the value of all devices down the hardware, and whether or not the applications will have DRM-d data files.
Thereby, it devalues the work of all user interfaces and programmers everywhere.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457958</id>
	<title>Re:Only if screens are as eye-friendly as Kindle's</title>
	<author>wild\_berry</author>
	<datestamp>1268394300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My eyes hurt too if the brightness in the screen is above 15\%, and most of the time the brightness is at 80+\%.  My HTC Hero adjusts the brightness automatically, and does a good job of being legible in sunlight and darkness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My eyes hurt too if the brightness in the screen is above 15 \ % , and most of the time the brightness is at 80 + \ % .
My HTC Hero adjusts the brightness automatically , and does a good job of being legible in sunlight and darkness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My eyes hurt too if the brightness in the screen is above 15\%, and most of the time the brightness is at 80+\%.
My HTC Hero adjusts the brightness automatically, and does a good job of being legible in sunlight and darkness.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31461986</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>tixxit</author>
	<datestamp>1268421000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes. If only there was some m<b>a</b>jor linux distributio<b>n</b> out there, backed and developed by a lea<b>d</b>ing tech company and suppo<b>r</b>ted by many huge device manufacturers that was f<b>o</b>cused on touch dev<b>i</b>ces. A boy can <b>d</b>ream, I suppose.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
If only there was some major linux distribution out there , backed and developed by a leading tech company and supported by many huge device manufacturers that was focused on touch devices .
A boy can dream , I suppose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
If only there was some major linux distribution out there, backed and developed by a leading tech company and supported by many huge device manufacturers that was focused on touch devices.
A boy can dream, I suppose.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457392</id>
	<title>Re:Why will people buy iPads?</title>
	<author>Zen Hash</author>
	<datestamp>1268391660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Plus, if you're a geek that wants versatility, wouldn't you be better off with a netbook running Linux? Touchscreen keyboards just slow computer geeks down.</p></div><p>There are linux tablets with sliding hardware keyboards. Much easier to carry around in your pocket than a netbook.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus , if you 're a geek that wants versatility , would n't you be better off with a netbook running Linux ?
Touchscreen keyboards just slow computer geeks down.There are linux tablets with sliding hardware keyboards .
Much easier to carry around in your pocket than a netbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus, if you're a geek that wants versatility, wouldn't you be better off with a netbook running Linux?
Touchscreen keyboards just slow computer geeks down.There are linux tablets with sliding hardware keyboards.
Much easier to carry around in your pocket than a netbook.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31458032</id>
	<title>Kill off ereaders</title>
	<author>Venik</author>
	<datestamp>1268394660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years. How can it not work out this way? For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more.</p></div><p>
How, you ask? The same way clock radios replaced neither clocks nor radios. Swiss cheese, for example, successfully combines cheese and holes and, yet, makers of hole-less cheese as well as manufacturers of holes are still very much in business. While combining many functions into one product may seem as a fun way to pass the time, sometimes you just want to enjoy good cheese without any holes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon 's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years .
How can it not work out this way ?
For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more .
How , you ask ?
The same way clock radios replaced neither clocks nor radios .
Swiss cheese , for example , successfully combines cheese and holes and , yet , makers of hole-less cheese as well as manufacturers of holes are still very much in business .
While combining many functions into one product may seem as a fun way to pass the time , sometimes you just want to enjoy good cheese without any holes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I predict with absolute faith that the iPad and its clones are going to kill off single purpose devices like dedicated eReaders such as Amazon's Kindle and GPS devices within the next three years.
How can it not work out this way?
For the same price as a high-end dedicated device you can get a tablet that will do everything they can do and far more.
How, you ask?
The same way clock radios replaced neither clocks nor radios.
Swiss cheese, for example, successfully combines cheese and holes and, yet, makers of hole-less cheese as well as manufacturers of holes are still very much in business.
While combining many functions into one product may seem as a fun way to pass the time, sometimes you just want to enjoy good cheese without any holes.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457840</id>
	<title>I just bought an ebook reader instead of an iPad</title>
	<author>renfrow</author>
	<datestamp>1268393640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have any of you simulated an iPad, to see what size it's going to be? I have and love my ipod Touch, and was fully planning on getting one when they came out. But, I wanted to make sure it was going to fit the pockets that I'd be (or attempting to) putting it in. I cut a sheet of paper to the iPad's dimensions (Height: 9.56 inches (242.8 mm) Width: 7.47 inches (189.7 mm)). It's HUGE! Well, relatively speaking. I have no pockets that it would fit into. It's not going to be blowing any ebook readers out of the water at that size. If I were in school, toting around a book bag anyway, it'd be no big deal, and probably a good choice, but, for me, it's too large. A 600x800 screen in a 7.5x5 inch form factor would have been perfect, which is about the size of the reader I got instead.</p><p>Tom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have any of you simulated an iPad , to see what size it 's going to be ?
I have and love my ipod Touch , and was fully planning on getting one when they came out .
But , I wanted to make sure it was going to fit the pockets that I 'd be ( or attempting to ) putting it in .
I cut a sheet of paper to the iPad 's dimensions ( Height : 9.56 inches ( 242.8 mm ) Width : 7.47 inches ( 189.7 mm ) ) .
It 's HUGE !
Well , relatively speaking .
I have no pockets that it would fit into .
It 's not going to be blowing any ebook readers out of the water at that size .
If I were in school , toting around a book bag anyway , it 'd be no big deal , and probably a good choice , but , for me , it 's too large .
A 600x800 screen in a 7.5x5 inch form factor would have been perfect , which is about the size of the reader I got instead.Tom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have any of you simulated an iPad, to see what size it's going to be?
I have and love my ipod Touch, and was fully planning on getting one when they came out.
But, I wanted to make sure it was going to fit the pockets that I'd be (or attempting to) putting it in.
I cut a sheet of paper to the iPad's dimensions (Height: 9.56 inches (242.8 mm) Width: 7.47 inches (189.7 mm)).
It's HUGE!
Well, relatively speaking.
I have no pockets that it would fit into.
It's not going to be blowing any ebook readers out of the water at that size.
If I were in school, toting around a book bag anyway, it'd be no big deal, and probably a good choice, but, for me, it's too large.
A 600x800 screen in a 7.5x5 inch form factor would have been perfect, which is about the size of the reader I got instead.Tom.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31457152</id>
	<title>Re:Forget Linux</title>
	<author>FencingLion</author>
	<datestamp>1268390760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No Web browser</p><p>No MP3 player</p><p>No Wi-Fi or Bluetooth</p><p>No keyboard</p></div><p>Lame.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No Web browserNo MP3 playerNo Wi-Fi or BluetoothNo keyboardLame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No Web browserNo MP3 playerNo Wi-Fi or BluetoothNo keyboardLame.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_2014222.31460020</id>
	<title>Re:GPS devices</title>
	<author>nxtw</author>
	<datestamp>1268404140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was using my smartphone with a Bluetooth GPS receiver and maps stored on the memory card back in 2006.</p><p>Even better, though:  I haven't needed to drive anywhere without data coverage since 2005.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was using my smartphone with a Bluetooth GPS receiver and maps stored on the memory card back in 2006.Even better , though : I have n't needed to drive anywhere without data coverage since 2005 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was using my smartphone with a Bluetooth GPS receiver and maps stored on the memory card back in 2006.Even better, though:  I haven't needed to drive anywhere without data coverage since 2005.</sentencetext>
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