<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_12_137217</id>
	<title>FCC Asks You To Test Your Broadband Speeds</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1268401860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>AnotherUsername writes <i>"The Federal Communications Commission is asking the nation's broadband and smartphone users to use its broadband testing tools to help the feds and consumers know <a href="http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/03/fcc-broadband-test/">what speeds are actually available</a>, not just promised by the nation's telecoms. At <a href="http://www.broadband.gov/">http://www.broadband.gov/</a>, users enter their address and test their broadband download speed, upload speed, latency, and jitter using one of two tests (users can choose to test with the other after one test is complete).  The FCC is requiring the street address, as it 'may use this data to analyze broadband quality and availability on a geographic basis' (<a href="http://www.broadband.gov/broadband-quality-test-privacy-statement.html">they promise</a> not to release location data except in the aggregate). The agency is also asking those who live in a broadband 'dead zone' to fill out a report online, call, fax, email, or even send a letter. The announcement comes just six days before the FCC presents the first ever national broadband plan to Congress. Java is necessary to run the test."</i> Lauren Weinstein points out <a href="http://www.nnsquad.org/archives/nnsquad/msg03090.html">some of the limitations</a> in the FCC's testing methodology.</htmltext>
<tokenext>AnotherUsername writes " The Federal Communications Commission is asking the nation 's broadband and smartphone users to use its broadband testing tools to help the feds and consumers know what speeds are actually available , not just promised by the nation 's telecoms .
At http : //www.broadband.gov/ , users enter their address and test their broadband download speed , upload speed , latency , and jitter using one of two tests ( users can choose to test with the other after one test is complete ) .
The FCC is requiring the street address , as it 'may use this data to analyze broadband quality and availability on a geographic basis ' ( they promise not to release location data except in the aggregate ) .
The agency is also asking those who live in a broadband 'dead zone ' to fill out a report online , call , fax , email , or even send a letter .
The announcement comes just six days before the FCC presents the first ever national broadband plan to Congress .
Java is necessary to run the test .
" Lauren Weinstein points out some of the limitations in the FCC 's testing methodology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AnotherUsername writes "The Federal Communications Commission is asking the nation's broadband and smartphone users to use its broadband testing tools to help the feds and consumers know what speeds are actually available, not just promised by the nation's telecoms.
At http://www.broadband.gov/, users enter their address and test their broadband download speed, upload speed, latency, and jitter using one of two tests (users can choose to test with the other after one test is complete).
The FCC is requiring the street address, as it 'may use this data to analyze broadband quality and availability on a geographic basis' (they promise not to release location data except in the aggregate).
The agency is also asking those who live in a broadband 'dead zone' to fill out a report online, call, fax, email, or even send a letter.
The announcement comes just six days before the FCC presents the first ever national broadband plan to Congress.
Java is necessary to run the test.
" Lauren Weinstein points out some of the limitations in the FCC's testing methodology.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451358</id>
	<title>Re:Browser sensitive!</title>
	<author>jittles</author>
	<datestamp>1268408040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I tried to run it as well and it required Flash 9 or higher to run.  I refuse to install Flash so I guess I can't help them out any.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried to run it as well and it required Flash 9 or higher to run .
I refuse to install Flash so I guess I ca n't help them out any .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried to run it as well and it required Flash 9 or higher to run.
I refuse to install Flash so I guess I can't help them out any.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451090</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451002</id>
	<title>Test server slashdotted already?</title>
	<author>ptbarnett</author>
	<datestamp>1268405940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I ran the test and the measurements were 10\% of the speed of my FIOS connection.<p>

It offered me the opportunity to rerun the test using Ookla as the host.  That returned 25 megabit/sec down and 15 megabit/sec up -- which is what my connection is supposed to do.</p><p>

They apparently need to implement some sort of queue, so that they don't saturate their own connection with too many simultaneous tests.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ran the test and the measurements were 10 \ % of the speed of my FIOS connection .
It offered me the opportunity to rerun the test using Ookla as the host .
That returned 25 megabit/sec down and 15 megabit/sec up -- which is what my connection is supposed to do .
They apparently need to implement some sort of queue , so that they do n't saturate their own connection with too many simultaneous tests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ran the test and the measurements were 10\% of the speed of my FIOS connection.
It offered me the opportunity to rerun the test using Ookla as the host.
That returned 25 megabit/sec down and 15 megabit/sec up -- which is what my connection is supposed to do.
They apparently need to implement some sort of queue, so that they don't saturate their own connection with too many simultaneous tests.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453996</id>
	<title>Gaming the test?</title>
	<author>Walter White</author>
	<datestamp>1268420580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Am I the only one who thinks that broadband Internet providers will render the tests sort of useless by prioritizing traffic to the test sites? It seems to me that it is in their interest to make it look like they are providing what they advertise and their previous shenanigans WRT traffic shaping (resets for BT for example) demonstrate their willingness to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who thinks that broadband Internet providers will render the tests sort of useless by prioritizing traffic to the test sites ?
It seems to me that it is in their interest to make it look like they are providing what they advertise and their previous shenanigans WRT traffic shaping ( resets for BT for example ) demonstrate their willingness to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who thinks that broadband Internet providers will render the tests sort of useless by prioritizing traffic to the test sites?
It seems to me that it is in their interest to make it look like they are providing what they advertise and their previous shenanigans WRT traffic shaping (resets for BT for example) demonstrate their willingness to do so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451316</id>
	<title>I bet - ISP will "improve" speeds for that side</title>
	<author>paziek</author>
	<datestamp>1268407800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My bet is that ISP will see that someone is trying to do a test on that single site and just give it higher priority and such.<br>Gonna turn into bullshit survey, not much different from when it would be infested by<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/b/tards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My bet is that ISP will see that someone is trying to do a test on that single site and just give it higher priority and such.Gon na turn into bullshit survey , not much different from when it would be infested by /b/tards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My bet is that ISP will see that someone is trying to do a test on that single site and just give it higher priority and such.Gonna turn into bullshit survey, not much different from when it would be infested by /b/tards.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452756</id>
	<title>Re:Browser sensitive!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268414820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It also doesn't work on Konqueror, but there's no indication that it's not working. It just never finishes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It also does n't work on Konqueror , but there 's no indication that it 's not working .
It just never finishes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also doesn't work on Konqueror, but there's no indication that it's not working.
It just never finishes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451090</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451564</id>
	<title>Re:Classic failures</title>
	<author>PPalmgren</author>
	<datestamp>1268409060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Could you imagine the outcry among speedtest users if speedtest gave information to the gov't for this?  It would damage their reputation, and it would damage the FCC's reputation as well for collecting data through a back-channel rather than through request.  This isn't even weighing in speedtest's privacy policy and the fact that ISPs have already optimised their burst performance around benchmarks like speedtest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could you imagine the outcry among speedtest users if speedtest gave information to the gov't for this ?
It would damage their reputation , and it would damage the FCC 's reputation as well for collecting data through a back-channel rather than through request .
This is n't even weighing in speedtest 's privacy policy and the fact that ISPs have already optimised their burst performance around benchmarks like speedtest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could you imagine the outcry among speedtest users if speedtest gave information to the gov't for this?
It would damage their reputation, and it would damage the FCC's reputation as well for collecting data through a back-channel rather than through request.
This isn't even weighing in speedtest's privacy policy and the fact that ISPs have already optimised their burst performance around benchmarks like speedtest.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451068</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31455348</id>
	<title>Actual European Internet speeds</title>
	<author>TheSync</author>
	<datestamp>1268426640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd love to know what the actual average European Internet speeds are.  While very high "last mile" speeds are available, I want to know what actual Internet speeds are.</p><p>One could run a bunch of GigE to people's houses, then hook the border router up to IP-over-carrier-pigeon and still argue the customers get a "1 Gbps connection"...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd love to know what the actual average European Internet speeds are .
While very high " last mile " speeds are available , I want to know what actual Internet speeds are.One could run a bunch of GigE to people 's houses , then hook the border router up to IP-over-carrier-pigeon and still argue the customers get a " 1 Gbps connection " .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd love to know what the actual average European Internet speeds are.
While very high "last mile" speeds are available, I want to know what actual Internet speeds are.One could run a bunch of GigE to people's houses, then hook the border router up to IP-over-carrier-pigeon and still argue the customers get a "1 Gbps connection"...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451054</id>
	<title>Mine is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Download    10467
Upload        1770
Latency        52
Jitter            4

Dont know if that is good or bad,provider is Comcast</htmltext>
<tokenext>Download 10467 Upload 1770 Latency 52 Jitter 4 Dont know if that is good or bad,provider is Comcast</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Download    10467
Upload        1770
Latency        52
Jitter            4

Dont know if that is good or bad,provider is Comcast</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31461040</id>
	<title>Dang, they showed their hand.</title>
	<author>Reeses</author>
	<datestamp>1268411340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now Comcast (UVerse, etal) can cache the site or do some bandwidth shaping based on site address and make sure that site always gets the highest priority, thereby making it seem like we all have fast connections.</p><p>Dammit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now Comcast ( UVerse , etal ) can cache the site or do some bandwidth shaping based on site address and make sure that site always gets the highest priority , thereby making it seem like we all have fast connections.Dammit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now Comcast (UVerse, etal) can cache the site or do some bandwidth shaping based on site address and make sure that site always gets the highest priority, thereby making it seem like we all have fast connections.Dammit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451068</id>
	<title>Classic failures</title>
	<author>jgreco</author>
	<datestamp>1268406300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An iPhone (yes there's an iPhone app) test and a laptop test on the same wifi reported wildly different numbers.</p><p>Selecting a server 800 miles away rather than the one in the same city yielded much improved numbers (by whole number multiples).</p><p>Speedtest.net already has an extensive database, and appears to be part of the backend of this.   It's too bad the FCC couldn't have just handed them a small pile of cash to summarize the existing data, which would probably have been better at rapidly producing results.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An iPhone ( yes there 's an iPhone app ) test and a laptop test on the same wifi reported wildly different numbers.Selecting a server 800 miles away rather than the one in the same city yielded much improved numbers ( by whole number multiples ) .Speedtest.net already has an extensive database , and appears to be part of the backend of this .
It 's too bad the FCC could n't have just handed them a small pile of cash to summarize the existing data , which would probably have been better at rapidly producing results .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An iPhone (yes there's an iPhone app) test and a laptop test on the same wifi reported wildly different numbers.Selecting a server 800 miles away rather than the one in the same city yielded much improved numbers (by whole number multiples).Speedtest.net already has an extensive database, and appears to be part of the backend of this.
It's too bad the FCC couldn't have just handed them a small pile of cash to summarize the existing data, which would probably have been better at rapidly producing results.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452722</id>
	<title>Re:Test server slashdotted already?</title>
	<author>srealm</author>
	<datestamp>1268414640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had the reverse, it selected Ookla for me, and my download speed was dead on, but my upload speed at 10-25\% of what it should be.</p><p>I told it to switch to MLabs, and then it returned the correct rates (20/20) for my FiOS connection.  I guess that's why they have two hosts - more than likely, one on each coast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had the reverse , it selected Ookla for me , and my download speed was dead on , but my upload speed at 10-25 \ % of what it should be.I told it to switch to MLabs , and then it returned the correct rates ( 20/20 ) for my FiOS connection .
I guess that 's why they have two hosts - more than likely , one on each coast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had the reverse, it selected Ookla for me, and my download speed was dead on, but my upload speed at 10-25\% of what it should be.I told it to switch to MLabs, and then it returned the correct rates (20/20) for my FiOS connection.
I guess that's why they have two hosts - more than likely, one on each coast.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451002</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450958</id>
	<title>Windows firewall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268405700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows firewall pops up a warning in the middle of the test, which will likely mess up the results since it will cause a delay.  Not sure I like unblocking an application that the government is sponsoring either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows firewall pops up a warning in the middle of the test , which will likely mess up the results since it will cause a delay .
Not sure I like unblocking an application that the government is sponsoring either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows firewall pops up a warning in the middle of the test, which will likely mess up the results since it will cause a delay.
Not sure I like unblocking an application that the government is sponsoring either.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452310</id>
	<title>Extremely inaccurate for me, inflating the numbers</title>
	<author>Above</author>
	<datestamp>1268412720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a 8Mbps down, 1Mbps cable modem.  I've used a number of testing services before, and it performs well showing 5-7 down and 600-800k up on most testing services.  Speed seems incredibly consistent over time.</p><p>However, the FCC test just told me it transferred data at 28Mbps down and 3Mbps up.  I've never gotten numbers over 8Mbps anywhere else in the 3+ years I've had this service.  There is also no where for me to indicate this is bogus.  It would be nice if they also collected what people were told they had by the marketing folks so outliers could be identified, and we could compare actual rates to the marketing rates.</p><p>How about everyone else?  Accurate for you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a 8Mbps down , 1Mbps cable modem .
I 've used a number of testing services before , and it performs well showing 5-7 down and 600-800k up on most testing services .
Speed seems incredibly consistent over time.However , the FCC test just told me it transferred data at 28Mbps down and 3Mbps up .
I 've never gotten numbers over 8Mbps anywhere else in the 3 + years I 've had this service .
There is also no where for me to indicate this is bogus .
It would be nice if they also collected what people were told they had by the marketing folks so outliers could be identified , and we could compare actual rates to the marketing rates.How about everyone else ?
Accurate for you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a 8Mbps down, 1Mbps cable modem.
I've used a number of testing services before, and it performs well showing 5-7 down and 600-800k up on most testing services.
Speed seems incredibly consistent over time.However, the FCC test just told me it transferred data at 28Mbps down and 3Mbps up.
I've never gotten numbers over 8Mbps anywhere else in the 3+ years I've had this service.
There is also no where for me to indicate this is bogus.
It would be nice if they also collected what people were told they had by the marketing folks so outliers could be identified, and we could compare actual rates to the marketing rates.How about everyone else?
Accurate for you?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451166</id>
	<title>Geolocation?</title>
	<author>MortenMW</author>
	<datestamp>1268406840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Im able to run the test from outside the US. This data con not possibly be considered trustworthy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Im able to run the test from outside the US .
This data con not possibly be considered trustworthy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Im able to run the test from outside the US.
This data con not possibly be considered trustworthy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451366</id>
	<title>surprised at the speed</title>
	<author>jschen</author>
	<datestamp>1268408100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Admittedly, it's 6:30 in the morning, when most of the apartment complex in San Diego (UTC area, 92122) is still asleep. Nonetheless, for basic high speed from Time Warner Cable, I'm quite surprised by the speed. I've always been happy with the speed they provide, but I didn't realize that it would burst so high. Of course, other than broadband.gov no one is pushing data down my connection at those speeds anyways.</p><p>

Download speed: 29836 kbps<br>
Upload speed: 964 kbps<br>
Latency: 17 ms<br>
Jitter 2 ms</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Admittedly , it 's 6 : 30 in the morning , when most of the apartment complex in San Diego ( UTC area , 92122 ) is still asleep .
Nonetheless , for basic high speed from Time Warner Cable , I 'm quite surprised by the speed .
I 've always been happy with the speed they provide , but I did n't realize that it would burst so high .
Of course , other than broadband.gov no one is pushing data down my connection at those speeds anyways .
Download speed : 29836 kbps Upload speed : 964 kbps Latency : 17 ms Jitter 2 ms</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Admittedly, it's 6:30 in the morning, when most of the apartment complex in San Diego (UTC area, 92122) is still asleep.
Nonetheless, for basic high speed from Time Warner Cable, I'm quite surprised by the speed.
I've always been happy with the speed they provide, but I didn't realize that it would burst so high.
Of course, other than broadband.gov no one is pushing data down my connection at those speeds anyways.
Download speed: 29836 kbps
Upload speed: 964 kbps
Latency: 17 ms
Jitter 2 ms</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452100</id>
	<title>Not over wifi?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268411760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Im seeing a problem with this. As most people aren't going to think to not test it over Wifi. Why would this be a problem? Wifi running at 54mbps is much slower than wired connections at 1gbps. Theyre not going to get accurate data unless people are taking advantage of all the fastest connections to the internet.</p><p>I tested this, over wifi, im only getting about 10\% of my connection speed, while over ethernet, Im getting what I am paying for if not a bit higher</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Im seeing a problem with this .
As most people are n't going to think to not test it over Wifi .
Why would this be a problem ?
Wifi running at 54mbps is much slower than wired connections at 1gbps .
Theyre not going to get accurate data unless people are taking advantage of all the fastest connections to the internet.I tested this , over wifi , im only getting about 10 \ % of my connection speed , while over ethernet , Im getting what I am paying for if not a bit higher</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Im seeing a problem with this.
As most people aren't going to think to not test it over Wifi.
Why would this be a problem?
Wifi running at 54mbps is much slower than wired connections at 1gbps.
Theyre not going to get accurate data unless people are taking advantage of all the fastest connections to the internet.I tested this, over wifi, im only getting about 10\% of my connection speed, while over ethernet, Im getting what I am paying for if not a bit higher</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31455506</id>
	<title>Not going to happen.</title>
	<author>crhylove</author>
	<datestamp>1268427300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Requires Java on my machine, and I just don't hate myself enough to install that.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Requires Java on my machine , and I just do n't hate myself enough to install that.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Requires Java on my machine, and I just don't hate myself enough to install that.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451122</id>
	<title>Will anything come of this?</title>
	<author>newcastlejon</author>
	<datestamp>1268406540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is this a prelude to the FCC clamping down on ISPs' habit of overselling or are they simply gathering data for it's own sake?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this a prelude to the FCC clamping down on ISPs ' habit of overselling or are they simply gathering data for it 's own sake ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this a prelude to the FCC clamping down on ISPs' habit of overselling or are they simply gathering data for it's own sake?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451944</id>
	<title>Slashdotted</title>
	<author>Anarki2004</author>
	<datestamp>1268410980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looks like broadband.gov is feeling the slashdot effect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like broadband.gov is feeling the slashdot effect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like broadband.gov is feeling the slashdot effect.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452764</id>
	<title>Tail Wagging Dog</title>
	<author>bxwatso</author>
	<datestamp>1268414880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I find it odd that, after the FCC has spent tens of billions of dollars promoting and installing broadband as a social service, they are now doing a study of who has broadband and where.  It is almost as if they have been putting policy before the facts, a common Washington fault.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it odd that , after the FCC has spent tens of billions of dollars promoting and installing broadband as a social service , they are now doing a study of who has broadband and where .
It is almost as if they have been putting policy before the facts , a common Washington fault .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it odd that, after the FCC has spent tens of billions of dollars promoting and installing broadband as a social service, they are now doing a study of who has broadband and where.
It is almost as if they have been putting policy before the facts, a common Washington fault.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450960</id>
	<title>no thanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268405700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One more piece of crap they'll stick on my new Biometric National ID Card.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One more piece of crap they 'll stick on my new Biometric National ID Card .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One more piece of crap they'll stick on my new Biometric National ID Card.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451136</id>
	<title>Re:Why the need of an addy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They want to determine coverage.  You cannot derive street-level coverage of broadband from IP addresses easily.  As it stands, one of the problems with broadband is that you do not get universally consistent coverage, for example, at home, the 3/768 DSL offering of one of the CLEC's failed testing and they provisioned it for 1.5/512 instead.  Had we been half a mile closer to the CO, 3/768 likely would have worked.  There will be someone else a little further out who can only get it as 768/384.</p><p>The real problem will be for the FCC to get enough people to run this to get a meaningful map.  I doubt that they'll get enough for it to really matter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They want to determine coverage .
You can not derive street-level coverage of broadband from IP addresses easily .
As it stands , one of the problems with broadband is that you do not get universally consistent coverage , for example , at home , the 3/768 DSL offering of one of the CLEC 's failed testing and they provisioned it for 1.5/512 instead .
Had we been half a mile closer to the CO , 3/768 likely would have worked .
There will be someone else a little further out who can only get it as 768/384.The real problem will be for the FCC to get enough people to run this to get a meaningful map .
I doubt that they 'll get enough for it to really matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They want to determine coverage.
You cannot derive street-level coverage of broadband from IP addresses easily.
As it stands, one of the problems with broadband is that you do not get universally consistent coverage, for example, at home, the 3/768 DSL offering of one of the CLEC's failed testing and they provisioned it for 1.5/512 instead.
Had we been half a mile closer to the CO, 3/768 likely would have worked.
There will be someone else a little further out who can only get it as 768/384.The real problem will be for the FCC to get enough people to run this to get a meaningful map.
I doubt that they'll get enough for it to really matter.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450980</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31456302</id>
	<title>Complete waste of time...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268387520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The results from this test will be absolutely meaningless, and of no use to anybody. Even ignoring the other points raised in the linked NNSquad post, there's absolutely nothing to stop the ISPs from rigging the results by uncapping (and even prioritizing over other network traffic) connections to the IP addresses responsible for serving the test. I'm fairly certain my ISP (Comcast) has already done so with the most commonly used speed test sites, because even accounting for their "Power Boost" feature, I routinely get speed test results that bear absolutely no correlation to my real-world speed transferring data from *any* other sites. (I'm talking an order of magnitude faster for the speed test sites, which generally report 3-5 times what my supposed speed should be even with power boost active).</htmltext>
<tokenext>The results from this test will be absolutely meaningless , and of no use to anybody .
Even ignoring the other points raised in the linked NNSquad post , there 's absolutely nothing to stop the ISPs from rigging the results by uncapping ( and even prioritizing over other network traffic ) connections to the IP addresses responsible for serving the test .
I 'm fairly certain my ISP ( Comcast ) has already done so with the most commonly used speed test sites , because even accounting for their " Power Boost " feature , I routinely get speed test results that bear absolutely no correlation to my real-world speed transferring data from * any * other sites .
( I 'm talking an order of magnitude faster for the speed test sites , which generally report 3-5 times what my supposed speed should be even with power boost active ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The results from this test will be absolutely meaningless, and of no use to anybody.
Even ignoring the other points raised in the linked NNSquad post, there's absolutely nothing to stop the ISPs from rigging the results by uncapping (and even prioritizing over other network traffic) connections to the IP addresses responsible for serving the test.
I'm fairly certain my ISP (Comcast) has already done so with the most commonly used speed test sites, because even accounting for their "Power Boost" feature, I routinely get speed test results that bear absolutely no correlation to my real-world speed transferring data from *any* other sites.
(I'm talking an order of magnitude faster for the speed test sites, which generally report 3-5 times what my supposed speed should be even with power boost active).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451076</id>
	<title>My Results</title>
	<author>Muad'Dave</author>
	<datestamp>1268406300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Comcast in Hanover County, VA 23059:</p><p>down: 20347 kbps<br>up:    3144 kbps<br>latency: 20 ms<br>jitter:   1 ms</p><p>Tested with Ookla - running firefox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Comcast in Hanover County , VA 23059 : down : 20347 kbpsup : 3144 kbpslatency : 20 msjitter : 1 msTested with Ookla - running firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Comcast in Hanover County, VA 23059:down: 20347 kbpsup:    3144 kbpslatency: 20 msjitter:   1 msTested with Ookla - running firefox.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453530</id>
	<title>Charter</title>
	<author>thomasw\_lrd</author>
	<datestamp>1268418480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't even get charter internet to load the damn site.  Tell me they don't have something to hide.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't even get charter internet to load the damn site .
Tell me they do n't have something to hide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't even get charter internet to load the damn site.
Tell me they don't have something to hide.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451562</id>
	<title>Re:Windows firewall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268409060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not sure I like unblocking an application that the government is sponsoring either.</p></div><p>Run a packet sniffer, and if you find anything particularly damning, there will be plenty of media outlets that will want to buy the story from you.</p><p>Honestly, between Comcast and the government, I know which of the two I'd trust.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure I like unblocking an application that the government is sponsoring either.Run a packet sniffer , and if you find anything particularly damning , there will be plenty of media outlets that will want to buy the story from you.Honestly , between Comcast and the government , I know which of the two I 'd trust .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure I like unblocking an application that the government is sponsoring either.Run a packet sniffer, and if you find anything particularly damning, there will be plenty of media outlets that will want to buy the story from you.Honestly, between Comcast and the government, I know which of the two I'd trust.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450958</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451486</id>
	<title>Re:One of the more accurate tests I've run</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268408700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From what I can tell the upload test is a bit limited. It got my download correct at 24594 but my upload was only around 10500, but should be around 25000 on my 25/25 FiOS package.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I can tell the upload test is a bit limited .
It got my download correct at 24594 but my upload was only around 10500 , but should be around 25000 on my 25/25 FiOS package .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I can tell the upload test is a bit limited.
It got my download correct at 24594 but my upload was only around 10500, but should be around 25000 on my 25/25 FiOS package.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31454164</id>
	<title>Up to Xbps</title>
	<author>Gresyth</author>
	<datestamp>1268421360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The thing everyone misses when they gripe about their ISP and the down/up speeds is that the ISPs all advertise bandwidth "<b>up to</b>" the rate they are selling. NO ISP can guarantee bandwidth as there are too many factors beyond their control that affect it. No ISP advertises a set value, its always, "up to" Xbps. The "up to" is usually in the fine print or an * but that is our responsibility to notice under current laws.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The thing everyone misses when they gripe about their ISP and the down/up speeds is that the ISPs all advertise bandwidth " up to " the rate they are selling .
NO ISP can guarantee bandwidth as there are too many factors beyond their control that affect it .
No ISP advertises a set value , its always , " up to " Xbps .
The " up to " is usually in the fine print or an * but that is our responsibility to notice under current laws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The thing everyone misses when they gripe about their ISP and the down/up speeds is that the ISPs all advertise bandwidth "up to" the rate they are selling.
NO ISP can guarantee bandwidth as there are too many factors beyond their control that affect it.
No ISP advertises a set value, its always, "up to" Xbps.
The "up to" is usually in the fine print or an * but that is our responsibility to notice under current laws.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451700</id>
	<title>Re:Classic failures</title>
	<author>jgreco</author>
	<datestamp>1268409780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Illinois, the I-Pass system (linked to your EZpass, IIRC) was implemented and to encourage adoption, they doubled the cash tolls.  Drivers from surrounding states who do not have an I-Pass end up paying a lot more.</p><p>Of course, the Illinois Tollway is a great example of a system where a toll was instituted to pay for the highway, and then not only did it not go away, but they've actually raised the tolls (several times I believe).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Illinois , the I-Pass system ( linked to your EZpass , IIRC ) was implemented and to encourage adoption , they doubled the cash tolls .
Drivers from surrounding states who do not have an I-Pass end up paying a lot more.Of course , the Illinois Tollway is a great example of a system where a toll was instituted to pay for the highway , and then not only did it not go away , but they 've actually raised the tolls ( several times I believe ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Illinois, the I-Pass system (linked to your EZpass, IIRC) was implemented and to encourage adoption, they doubled the cash tolls.
Drivers from surrounding states who do not have an I-Pass end up paying a lot more.Of course, the Illinois Tollway is a great example of a system where a toll was instituted to pay for the highway, and then not only did it not go away, but they've actually raised the tolls (several times I believe).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451368</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453078</id>
	<title>Odd Test</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268416680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This test seems very suspicious to me...</p><p>Telcos, knowing this is going on, will probably place rules to ensure that traffic to these locations are going to get priority; thus ensuring that the speed they say you get is what you get.</p><p>So how would this be a real life test?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This test seems very suspicious to me...Telcos , knowing this is going on , will probably place rules to ensure that traffic to these locations are going to get priority ; thus ensuring that the speed they say you get is what you get.So how would this be a real life test ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This test seems very suspicious to me...Telcos, knowing this is going on, will probably place rules to ensure that traffic to these locations are going to get priority; thus ensuring that the speed they say you get is what you get.So how would this be a real life test?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452070</id>
	<title>Great job!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268411520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This site doesn't instill a whole lot of confidence in the government's plan for national broadband. First the site has difficulty loading, it took a few minutes before I got in. So I try the test and Firefox locks up. Eventually I get an unresponsive script warning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This site does n't instill a whole lot of confidence in the government 's plan for national broadband .
First the site has difficulty loading , it took a few minutes before I got in .
So I try the test and Firefox locks up .
Eventually I get an unresponsive script warning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This site doesn't instill a whole lot of confidence in the government's plan for national broadband.
First the site has difficulty loading, it took a few minutes before I got in.
So I try the test and Firefox locks up.
Eventually I get an unresponsive script warning.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451042</id>
	<title>Ookla</title>
	<author>WrongSizeGlass</author>
	<datestamp>1268406180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Requires Java <b>and</b> Flash? That's gotta hurt my computer's performance on <i>everything</i> let alone my connection speed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Requires Java and Flash ?
That 's got ta hurt my computer 's performance on everything let alone my connection speed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Requires Java and Flash?
That's gotta hurt my computer's performance on everything let alone my connection speed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451164</id>
	<title>It's a trap!</title>
	<author>srussia</author>
	<datestamp>1268406840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>n/t</htmltext>
<tokenext>n/t</tokentext>
<sentencetext>n/t</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451090</id>
	<title>Browser sensitive!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Users are randomly assigned the Ookla or M-Lab application.<br>
Note: the M-Lab application currently does not work with Safari, Chrome, and Opera web browsers.</p></div><p>
Really? So the 3 most standards compliant browsers arent supported?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Users are randomly assigned the Ookla or M-Lab application .
Note : the M-Lab application currently does not work with Safari , Chrome , and Opera web browsers .
Really ? So the 3 most standards compliant browsers arent supported ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Users are randomly assigned the Ookla or M-Lab application.
Note: the M-Lab application currently does not work with Safari, Chrome, and Opera web browsers.
Really? So the 3 most standards compliant browsers arent supported?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451242</id>
	<title>Frozen</title>
	<author>Tteddo</author>
	<datestamp>1268407380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It froze Firefox at 74\% on the latency test, twice. Firefox 3, Ubuntu 8.04.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It froze Firefox at 74 \ % on the latency test , twice .
Firefox 3 , Ubuntu 8.04 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It froze Firefox at 74\% on the latency test, twice.
Firefox 3, Ubuntu 8.04.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31578262</id>
	<title>Turn the tables</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269267420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Phone your cable company up, agree to the customer service rep that you'll pay upto $50 a month for internet, then actually only pay $10!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Phone your cable company up , agree to the customer service rep that you 'll pay upto $ 50 a month for internet , then actually only pay $ 10 !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Phone your cable company up, agree to the customer service rep that you'll pay upto $50 a month for internet, then actually only pay $10!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452604</id>
	<title>Re:The problem with "broadband" in the U.S.</title>
	<author>Cimexus</author>
	<datestamp>1268413980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Haha<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "Score: -1, Funny". Nice work<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Haha ... " Score : -1 , Funny " .
Nice work : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haha ... "Score: -1, Funny".
Nice work :P</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450972</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451354</id>
	<title>Re:Test server slashdotted already?</title>
	<author>Idbar</author>
	<datestamp>1268408040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And it's convenient that the test, which allegedly requires Java, also complains that I need to upgrade to the last version of flash. I'm guessing not many iPhone/AT&amp;T results in this poll.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And it 's convenient that the test , which allegedly requires Java , also complains that I need to upgrade to the last version of flash .
I 'm guessing not many iPhone/AT&amp;T results in this poll .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it's convenient that the test, which allegedly requires Java, also complains that I need to upgrade to the last version of flash.
I'm guessing not many iPhone/AT&amp;T results in this poll.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451002</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451798</id>
	<title>Test is Accurate</title>
	<author>MrTripps</author>
	<datestamp>1268410200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We have been measuring our bandwidth closely using numerous methods. The test at broadband.gov match what we get from other tools.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We have been measuring our bandwidth closely using numerous methods .
The test at broadband.gov match what we get from other tools .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have been measuring our bandwidth closely using numerous methods.
The test at broadband.gov match what we get from other tools.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452962</id>
	<title>this lady is out of her mind!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268415900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently Lauren is founder of 2 things and co-founder of 2 more things, active in another group and yet, for someone who wants to be taken seriously, her website is ridiculously unprofessional and her postings have no substance.  I read and reread her postings in regards to the fcc asking for Bband users to test their speed and nowhere to find can i read what she proposed, not even a link, as she seems to link everything else.  What was her proposal?  Also, the standardized methods of bband speed testing is well established.  That is you can never force other users in a home from using the Internet while conducting a speed test!  Also to use Java is certainly better than using flash or a simple HTML-based tester.  Flash has it's own overhead and HTML is dependent on the speed and health of the computer.  Using something like iPerf just is not realistic for a test of millions of computers and similar programs as well.  Leaving it to the broadband providers is the worst possible idea because they are already robbing us of bandwidth.</p><p>The answer is clear.  Lauren is still building a name for herself and trying to market herself as an Internet expert.  I agree she does have half a brain but you will need a complete brain in order to be an expert.  Maybe compared to the typical web browser she is an expert but compared to those who actually build this thing we call the Internet, she's nothing more than a loud mouth who has no idea about engineering a network and how to tackle such obstacles.</p><p>Yes there COULD BE better methods for bandwidth speed tests for all, but right now ANY solution for testing is better than none at all (none, i repeat, none was found on her site/blog).  Sorry Lauren, foot in mouth and I hope you won't use Lotramin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently Lauren is founder of 2 things and co-founder of 2 more things , active in another group and yet , for someone who wants to be taken seriously , her website is ridiculously unprofessional and her postings have no substance .
I read and reread her postings in regards to the fcc asking for Bband users to test their speed and nowhere to find can i read what she proposed , not even a link , as she seems to link everything else .
What was her proposal ?
Also , the standardized methods of bband speed testing is well established .
That is you can never force other users in a home from using the Internet while conducting a speed test !
Also to use Java is certainly better than using flash or a simple HTML-based tester .
Flash has it 's own overhead and HTML is dependent on the speed and health of the computer .
Using something like iPerf just is not realistic for a test of millions of computers and similar programs as well .
Leaving it to the broadband providers is the worst possible idea because they are already robbing us of bandwidth.The answer is clear .
Lauren is still building a name for herself and trying to market herself as an Internet expert .
I agree she does have half a brain but you will need a complete brain in order to be an expert .
Maybe compared to the typical web browser she is an expert but compared to those who actually build this thing we call the Internet , she 's nothing more than a loud mouth who has no idea about engineering a network and how to tackle such obstacles.Yes there COULD BE better methods for bandwidth speed tests for all , but right now ANY solution for testing is better than none at all ( none , i repeat , none was found on her site/blog ) .
Sorry Lauren , foot in mouth and I hope you wo n't use Lotramin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently Lauren is founder of 2 things and co-founder of 2 more things, active in another group and yet, for someone who wants to be taken seriously, her website is ridiculously unprofessional and her postings have no substance.
I read and reread her postings in regards to the fcc asking for Bband users to test their speed and nowhere to find can i read what she proposed, not even a link, as she seems to link everything else.
What was her proposal?
Also, the standardized methods of bband speed testing is well established.
That is you can never force other users in a home from using the Internet while conducting a speed test!
Also to use Java is certainly better than using flash or a simple HTML-based tester.
Flash has it's own overhead and HTML is dependent on the speed and health of the computer.
Using something like iPerf just is not realistic for a test of millions of computers and similar programs as well.
Leaving it to the broadband providers is the worst possible idea because they are already robbing us of bandwidth.The answer is clear.
Lauren is still building a name for herself and trying to market herself as an Internet expert.
I agree she does have half a brain but you will need a complete brain in order to be an expert.
Maybe compared to the typical web browser she is an expert but compared to those who actually build this thing we call the Internet, she's nothing more than a loud mouth who has no idea about engineering a network and how to tackle such obstacles.Yes there COULD BE better methods for bandwidth speed tests for all, but right now ANY solution for testing is better than none at all (none, i repeat, none was found on her site/blog).
Sorry Lauren, foot in mouth and I hope you won't use Lotramin.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31459010</id>
	<title>Wyou ell need flash installed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268399040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried doing the speedtest from my phone, and it says I need flash 9... you'd think you wouldn't need flash if you pick mobile, since most phones don't have flash.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried doing the speedtest from my phone , and it says I need flash 9... you 'd think you would n't need flash if you pick mobile , since most phones do n't have flash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried doing the speedtest from my phone, and it says I need flash 9... you'd think you wouldn't need flash if you pick mobile, since most phones don't have flash.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451284</id>
	<title>WARNING</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268407620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Java applet steals private data<br>be warned</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Java applet steals private databe warned</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Java applet steals private databe warned</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453628</id>
	<title>Re:if I were them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268419020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The broadband providers could just remove the throttle for the speed test and make the connections look alot better then what they are.</p><p>A better alternative for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,gov would be to do this without advertising their intentions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The broadband providers could just remove the throttle for the speed test and make the connections look alot better then what they are.A better alternative for ,gov would be to do this without advertising their intentions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The broadband providers could just remove the throttle for the speed test and make the connections look alot better then what they are.A better alternative for ,gov would be to do this without advertising their intentions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451022</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451574</id>
	<title>Excellent!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268409120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, who doesn't think their ISP has just read this article and added a bypass to all of the "traffic shaping" systems just for this application? A quick show of hands!<br> <br>Nobody? Hmmm... That's odd.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , who does n't think their ISP has just read this article and added a bypass to all of the " traffic shaping " systems just for this application ?
A quick show of hands !
Nobody ? Hmmm... That 's odd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, who doesn't think their ISP has just read this article and added a bypass to all of the "traffic shaping" systems just for this application?
A quick show of hands!
Nobody? Hmmm... That's odd.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451028</id>
	<title>Yet another thing to do</title>
	<author>sunking2</author>
	<datestamp>1268406120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not just add it to the census.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just add it to the census .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just add it to the census.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451064</id>
	<title>Re:Windows firewall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you don't like the idea of  a government-sponsored <i>network testing</i> application <i>accessing the network</i> why would you even bother to download and execute it?<br> <br>

The activities of any network speed tester should attract the attention of a competent firewall, since they will necessarily involve doing some uploading and downloading. If this makes you nervous, just don't execute the code(or, if you have the java chops, examine it first and make sure that the filler data used for the upload portion of the test isn't actually an encrypted dump of interesting information from your computer).</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't like the idea of a government-sponsored network testing application accessing the network why would you even bother to download and execute it ?
The activities of any network speed tester should attract the attention of a competent firewall , since they will necessarily involve doing some uploading and downloading .
If this makes you nervous , just do n't execute the code ( or , if you have the java chops , examine it first and make sure that the filler data used for the upload portion of the test is n't actually an encrypted dump of interesting information from your computer ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't like the idea of  a government-sponsored network testing application accessing the network why would you even bother to download and execute it?
The activities of any network speed tester should attract the attention of a competent firewall, since they will necessarily involve doing some uploading and downloading.
If this makes you nervous, just don't execute the code(or, if you have the java chops, examine it first and make sure that the filler data used for the upload portion of the test isn't actually an encrypted dump of interesting information from your computer).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450958</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31455148</id>
	<title>Re:if I were them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268425740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly.  FCC getting up in your grill about your broadband speed?  Prioritize packets to broadband.gov.  Problem solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
FCC getting up in your grill about your broadband speed ?
Prioritize packets to broadband.gov .
Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
FCC getting up in your grill about your broadband speed?
Prioritize packets to broadband.gov.
Problem solved.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451022</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451040</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1268406180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I did it from work, but said I was doing it from home.  Further, I entered an address of a home (not mine) in a rural area in my state that is currently trying to get federal stimulus money because they have no broadband.</p></div></blockquote><p>

So your goal to make sure they don't get any stimulus money for broadband by making it appear they do?
</p><p>
Anyways, it's hard to imagine they won't be discarding outliers, and (regardless of intentions) your dishonest result will be an outlier.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did it from work , but said I was doing it from home .
Further , I entered an address of a home ( not mine ) in a rural area in my state that is currently trying to get federal stimulus money because they have no broadband .
So your goal to make sure they do n't get any stimulus money for broadband by making it appear they do ?
Anyways , it 's hard to imagine they wo n't be discarding outliers , and ( regardless of intentions ) your dishonest result will be an outlier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did it from work, but said I was doing it from home.
Further, I entered an address of a home (not mine) in a rural area in my state that is currently trying to get federal stimulus money because they have no broadband.
So your goal to make sure they don't get any stimulus money for broadband by making it appear they do?
Anyways, it's hard to imagine they won't be discarding outliers, and (regardless of intentions) your dishonest result will be an outlier.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451712</id>
	<title>Re:One of the more accurate tests I've run</title>
	<author>MartinSchou</author>
	<datestamp>1268409840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This test was pretty much dead on accurate.I talked to a technician at my local ISP (in Sweden), who told me that they can pretty much fake every single network speed test, simply by dedicating the necessary bandwidth to it, so that even if you're downloading at 100\% speed before running the test, you'll get another 100\% bandwidth allocation to the server it's testing against.</p><blockquote><div><p>the only thing I didn't particularly care for was the fact that they wanted your exact address</p></div></blockquote><p>No. As others have said, sometimes you end up with some fucked up rules for your neighbourhood, where your next door neighbour can get 30/30 Mbit/s broadband, and you are limited to 8/2 Mbit/s. And worse cases exist elsewhere. I've lived next to people that could get cable TV and I couldn't, because the cable company couldn't get permission to run the connection that extra 25 metres.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This test was pretty much dead on accurate.I talked to a technician at my local ISP ( in Sweden ) , who told me that they can pretty much fake every single network speed test , simply by dedicating the necessary bandwidth to it , so that even if you 're downloading at 100 \ % speed before running the test , you 'll get another 100 \ % bandwidth allocation to the server it 's testing against.the only thing I did n't particularly care for was the fact that they wanted your exact addressNo .
As others have said , sometimes you end up with some fucked up rules for your neighbourhood , where your next door neighbour can get 30/30 Mbit/s broadband , and you are limited to 8/2 Mbit/s .
And worse cases exist elsewhere .
I 've lived next to people that could get cable TV and I could n't , because the cable company could n't get permission to run the connection that extra 25 metres .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This test was pretty much dead on accurate.I talked to a technician at my local ISP (in Sweden), who told me that they can pretty much fake every single network speed test, simply by dedicating the necessary bandwidth to it, so that even if you're downloading at 100\% speed before running the test, you'll get another 100\% bandwidth allocation to the server it's testing against.the only thing I didn't particularly care for was the fact that they wanted your exact addressNo.
As others have said, sometimes you end up with some fucked up rules for your neighbourhood, where your next door neighbour can get 30/30 Mbit/s broadband, and you are limited to 8/2 Mbit/s.
And worse cases exist elsewhere.
I've lived next to people that could get cable TV and I couldn't, because the cable company couldn't get permission to run the connection that extra 25 metres.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31454228</id>
	<title>Re:if I were them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268421720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think Comcast did adjust for better performance.  I got 21Mbs on my "4Mbs" connection from both tests.  Usually speed tests show about 4Mbs for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Comcast did adjust for better performance .
I got 21Mbs on my " 4Mbs " connection from both tests .
Usually speed tests show about 4Mbs for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Comcast did adjust for better performance.
I got 21Mbs on my "4Mbs" connection from both tests.
Usually speed tests show about 4Mbs for me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451022</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451308</id>
	<title>Re:One of the more accurate tests I've run</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268407740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wouldn't a simple portion of your address work well enough (e.g. 1xx Main St 90210) instead of the entire thing?</p></div><p>It depends on the internet service. I've got a friend who lives in a subdivision in a rural area with DSL. The DSL reaches literally all of his neighbors. But he's a little too far in for the signal to successfully reach him. Thus giving an exact address would actually help to pinpoint where service starts and stops.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't a simple portion of your address work well enough ( e.g .
1xx Main St 90210 ) instead of the entire thing ? It depends on the internet service .
I 've got a friend who lives in a subdivision in a rural area with DSL .
The DSL reaches literally all of his neighbors .
But he 's a little too far in for the signal to successfully reach him .
Thus giving an exact address would actually help to pinpoint where service starts and stops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't a simple portion of your address work well enough (e.g.
1xx Main St 90210) instead of the entire thing?It depends on the internet service.
I've got a friend who lives in a subdivision in a rural area with DSL.
The DSL reaches literally all of his neighbors.
But he's a little too far in for the signal to successfully reach him.
Thus giving an exact address would actually help to pinpoint where service starts and stops.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451906</id>
	<title>Re:WARNING</title>
	<author>PincushionMan</author>
	<datestamp>1268410740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>[sarcasm]Just those pesky GNUPG and PGP private keys.  You trust the gov't right?[/sarcasm]<p>

I believe this is a case of (tcp) dumps or it didn't happen...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ sarcasm ] Just those pesky GNUPG and PGP private keys .
You trust the gov't right ?
[ /sarcasm ] I believe this is a case of ( tcp ) dumps or it did n't happen.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[sarcasm]Just those pesky GNUPG and PGP private keys.
You trust the gov't right?
[/sarcasm]

I believe this is a case of (tcp) dumps or it didn't happen...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451284</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31457242</id>
	<title>Re:Windows firewall</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1268391120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In contrast to the government I have no personal reason to distrust Comcast, never having had any dealings with them (and not crediting Slashdot rants about how evil they are).  However, trust is not necessary.  Both are often quite predictable and in this case the chance that the FCC is hiding something nefarious in this test is so small as to provoke laughter at those who are worried about it.</p><p>Besides, any trojan would be aimed at Windows anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In contrast to the government I have no personal reason to distrust Comcast , never having had any dealings with them ( and not crediting Slashdot rants about how evil they are ) .
However , trust is not necessary .
Both are often quite predictable and in this case the chance that the FCC is hiding something nefarious in this test is so small as to provoke laughter at those who are worried about it.Besides , any trojan would be aimed at Windows anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In contrast to the government I have no personal reason to distrust Comcast, never having had any dealings with them (and not crediting Slashdot rants about how evil they are).
However, trust is not necessary.
Both are often quite predictable and in this case the chance that the FCC is hiding something nefarious in this test is so small as to provoke laughter at those who are worried about it.Besides, any trojan would be aimed at Windows anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451562</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450980</id>
	<title>Why the need of an addy?</title>
	<author>Taco Cowboy</author>
	<datestamp>1268405760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't they trace the IP instead?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't they trace the IP instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't they trace the IP instead?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450940</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452400</id>
	<title>Re:Why the need of an addy?</title>
	<author>++augahyde</author>
	<datestamp>1268413140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>An IP address can easily be hidden through proxies, etc. Besides, what does 192.168.1.2 show? That's a non-routable IP address.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An IP address can easily be hidden through proxies , etc .
Besides , what does 192.168.1.2 show ?
That 's a non-routable IP address .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An IP address can easily be hidden through proxies, etc.
Besides, what does 192.168.1.2 show?
That's a non-routable IP address.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450980</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452616</id>
	<title>what about my phone</title>
	<author>drougie</author>
	<datestamp>1268414040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a frustrated AT&amp;T subscriber in NYC (I suppose that's a bit redundant) I would like to shock the government with some tests of America's fastest 3G network in midtown Manhattan during the day but this website with all that fancy javascript and registration stuff doesn't seem too friendly for this.</p><p>Currently I use <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?t=1&amp;s=1024&amp;w=" title="dslreports.com" rel="nofollow">dslreports</a> [dslreports.com] but I'm not sure if AT&amp;T somehow throttles or bursts or shapes data that appears to be speed tests nor do I know if the random data this site blasts out gets compressed through AT&amp;T. The only speed test for my phone I know is reliable is by tethering through <a href="http://us.wmwifirouter.com/features/" title="wmwifirouter.com" rel="nofollow">WMWifiRouter</a> [wmwifirouter.com] and downloading a Debian iso. Not very convenient and I'm just mesmerized that the likes of PCWorld actually claims that in NYC their testing of AT&amp;T averaged &gt;1500Kbps / &gt;700kbps down/up when yesterday I got 16kbps and 32kbps with ridiculous latencies on the street in the 50s and 40s both around 1pm and then 6pm. I guess they're testing on Mondays at 2am.</p><p>Any other mobile friendly sites for testing would be appreciated along with any other at&amp;t rants.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a frustrated AT&amp;T subscriber in NYC ( I suppose that 's a bit redundant ) I would like to shock the government with some tests of America 's fastest 3G network in midtown Manhattan during the day but this website with all that fancy javascript and registration stuff does n't seem too friendly for this.Currently I use dslreports [ dslreports.com ] but I 'm not sure if AT&amp;T somehow throttles or bursts or shapes data that appears to be speed tests nor do I know if the random data this site blasts out gets compressed through AT&amp;T .
The only speed test for my phone I know is reliable is by tethering through WMWifiRouter [ wmwifirouter.com ] and downloading a Debian iso .
Not very convenient and I 'm just mesmerized that the likes of PCWorld actually claims that in NYC their testing of AT&amp;T averaged &gt; 1500Kbps / &gt; 700kbps down/up when yesterday I got 16kbps and 32kbps with ridiculous latencies on the street in the 50s and 40s both around 1pm and then 6pm .
I guess they 're testing on Mondays at 2am.Any other mobile friendly sites for testing would be appreciated along with any other at&amp;t rants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a frustrated AT&amp;T subscriber in NYC (I suppose that's a bit redundant) I would like to shock the government with some tests of America's fastest 3G network in midtown Manhattan during the day but this website with all that fancy javascript and registration stuff doesn't seem too friendly for this.Currently I use dslreports [dslreports.com] but I'm not sure if AT&amp;T somehow throttles or bursts or shapes data that appears to be speed tests nor do I know if the random data this site blasts out gets compressed through AT&amp;T.
The only speed test for my phone I know is reliable is by tethering through WMWifiRouter [wmwifirouter.com] and downloading a Debian iso.
Not very convenient and I'm just mesmerized that the likes of PCWorld actually claims that in NYC their testing of AT&amp;T averaged &gt;1500Kbps / &gt;700kbps down/up when yesterday I got 16kbps and 32kbps with ridiculous latencies on the street in the 50s and 40s both around 1pm and then 6pm.
I guess they're testing on Mondays at 2am.Any other mobile friendly sites for testing would be appreciated along with any other at&amp;t rants.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451582</id>
	<title>Better Test?</title>
	<author>Caviller</author>
	<datestamp>1268409180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is fine and all...except that the ISPs just move the test servers to high priority and make it look like everyone is getting their advertised speeds.<br> <br>
If they want a real test they should connect to 5 random test servers with daily changing IP addresses, scattered all over the country, and perferabably all on differnet networks( LV3, Sprint, etc...) while downloading a 100Mb bittorrent file, and then adding all the speeds together to come up with the actual throughput.  That would atleast be a more true test of what the ISP's customers are actualy getting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is fine and all...except that the ISPs just move the test servers to high priority and make it look like everyone is getting their advertised speeds .
If they want a real test they should connect to 5 random test servers with daily changing IP addresses , scattered all over the country , and perferabably all on differnet networks ( LV3 , Sprint , etc... ) while downloading a 100Mb bittorrent file , and then adding all the speeds together to come up with the actual throughput .
That would atleast be a more true test of what the ISP 's customers are actualy getting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is fine and all...except that the ISPs just move the test servers to high priority and make it look like everyone is getting their advertised speeds.
If they want a real test they should connect to 5 random test servers with daily changing IP addresses, scattered all over the country, and perferabably all on differnet networks( LV3, Sprint, etc...) while downloading a 100Mb bittorrent file, and then adding all the speeds together to come up with the actual throughput.
That would atleast be a more true test of what the ISP's customers are actualy getting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31462876</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1268479800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>See, your ISPs appear to be honest about the speeds you get. The rest of ours typically aren't. That's one of the things we'd like to see change. And market forces aren't going to do it.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>See , your ISPs appear to be honest about the speeds you get .
The rest of ours typically are n't .
That 's one of the things we 'd like to see change .
And market forces are n't going to do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See, your ISPs appear to be honest about the speeds you get.
The rest of ours typically aren't.
That's one of the things we'd like to see change.
And market forces aren't going to do it.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452116</id>
	<title>Brighthouse shenanegans</title>
	<author>neurovish</author>
	<datestamp>1268411820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I already see Brighthouse giving some priority routing to bradband.gov.  Almost every site I run a tracepath against goes through xxx.xxx.dfw10.tbone.rr.com, at which point the latency drops off a cliff.  When I run a tracepath against broadband.gov, the route shoots straight up the eastern seaboard with the best latency times I've seen from any site all month.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I already see Brighthouse giving some priority routing to bradband.gov .
Almost every site I run a tracepath against goes through xxx.xxx.dfw10.tbone.rr.com , at which point the latency drops off a cliff .
When I run a tracepath against broadband.gov , the route shoots straight up the eastern seaboard with the best latency times I 've seen from any site all month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I already see Brighthouse giving some priority routing to bradband.gov.
Almost every site I run a tracepath against goes through xxx.xxx.dfw10.tbone.rr.com, at which point the latency drops off a cliff.
When I run a tracepath against broadband.gov, the route shoots straight up the eastern seaboard with the best latency times I've seen from any site all month.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451236</id>
	<title>Re:Browser sensitive!</title>
	<author>garcia</author>
	<datestamp>1268407380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Worked fine in Chrome for me *shrug*.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Worked fine in Chrome for me * shrug * .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worked fine in Chrome for me *shrug*.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451090</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31455356</id>
	<title>Re:Browser sensitive!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268426640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are more concerned with market share.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are more concerned with market share .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are more concerned with market share.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451090</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453602</id>
	<title>We really need this</title>
	<author>StonyCreekBare</author>
	<datestamp>1268418900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live in the outskirts of a major metropolitan area, the San Francisco Bay Area.  I cannot get what a slashdoter would consider broadband in any form.  The local Telco insists they want to sell me 6 Mbit DSL and that they can serve me.  But they simply cannot.  The local DSLAM is over 18,000 feet from my door, and it is full with no available ports.  Further, the lines that serve me have load coils on them which the Telco refuses to remove.  Because of the load coils, even dial-up sucks.  I have been fighting them, begging them for ten years to give me service.  Further, they have a cell phone site less than 1000 feet from my door, could put a DSLAM there and serve me nicely but refuse.  Yet hardly a week goes by that I do not get a letter or phone call trying to sell me a service that they do not have and cannot deliver.  As for Cable?  They are not within 2 miles of me.  We need some oversight to force the Telco to actually provide the service they claim to be able to.  By removing load coils and upgrading the DSLAM they could probably give me 384 KBPS.  Not quite real broadband, but better than what I have now.  But they refuse.   By putting a DSLAM in the cell phone facility, they could easily give me 6 mbps, but refuse.  They have dark fiber that is sitting unused in the cell site, but won't sell me service.
Yet they constantly bug me to buy their nonexistent service.  I am not usually a proponent of government intervention, but I do not see any other way to force them to deliver service.  They want the relatively easy low-hanging fruit, but refuse to upgrade the infrastructure to serve the more marginal cases.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in the outskirts of a major metropolitan area , the San Francisco Bay Area .
I can not get what a slashdoter would consider broadband in any form .
The local Telco insists they want to sell me 6 Mbit DSL and that they can serve me .
But they simply can not .
The local DSLAM is over 18,000 feet from my door , and it is full with no available ports .
Further , the lines that serve me have load coils on them which the Telco refuses to remove .
Because of the load coils , even dial-up sucks .
I have been fighting them , begging them for ten years to give me service .
Further , they have a cell phone site less than 1000 feet from my door , could put a DSLAM there and serve me nicely but refuse .
Yet hardly a week goes by that I do not get a letter or phone call trying to sell me a service that they do not have and can not deliver .
As for Cable ?
They are not within 2 miles of me .
We need some oversight to force the Telco to actually provide the service they claim to be able to .
By removing load coils and upgrading the DSLAM they could probably give me 384 KBPS .
Not quite real broadband , but better than what I have now .
But they refuse .
By putting a DSLAM in the cell phone facility , they could easily give me 6 mbps , but refuse .
They have dark fiber that is sitting unused in the cell site , but wo n't sell me service .
Yet they constantly bug me to buy their nonexistent service .
I am not usually a proponent of government intervention , but I do not see any other way to force them to deliver service .
They want the relatively easy low-hanging fruit , but refuse to upgrade the infrastructure to serve the more marginal cases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in the outskirts of a major metropolitan area, the San Francisco Bay Area.
I cannot get what a slashdoter would consider broadband in any form.
The local Telco insists they want to sell me 6 Mbit DSL and that they can serve me.
But they simply cannot.
The local DSLAM is over 18,000 feet from my door, and it is full with no available ports.
Further, the lines that serve me have load coils on them which the Telco refuses to remove.
Because of the load coils, even dial-up sucks.
I have been fighting them, begging them for ten years to give me service.
Further, they have a cell phone site less than 1000 feet from my door, could put a DSLAM there and serve me nicely but refuse.
Yet hardly a week goes by that I do not get a letter or phone call trying to sell me a service that they do not have and cannot deliver.
As for Cable?
They are not within 2 miles of me.
We need some oversight to force the Telco to actually provide the service they claim to be able to.
By removing load coils and upgrading the DSLAM they could probably give me 384 KBPS.
Not quite real broadband, but better than what I have now.
But they refuse.
By putting a DSLAM in the cell phone facility, they could easily give me 6 mbps, but refuse.
They have dark fiber that is sitting unused in the cell site, but won't sell me service.
Yet they constantly bug me to buy their nonexistent service.
I am not usually a proponent of government intervention, but I do not see any other way to force them to deliver service.
They want the relatively easy low-hanging fruit, but refuse to upgrade the infrastructure to serve the more marginal cases.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31462758</id>
	<title>Re:One of the more accurate tests I've run</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268477280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd agree on its accuracy except that when I run torrents, my torrents spike up to the levels that I got in this test (12mbps down) then stabilize at 500-600kB/s or about 4-5mbps down which is what my isp advertises.</p><p>I'm assuming that the file size is small for broadband testing purposes to save them some bandwidth. But ideally a test like this wouldn't be short spikes of data? A 50? 100? MB file would be a better test.</p><p>As for the uploading, that was more or less accurate at 900kbps. Can't really say much there other than I gots me some throttled upload speeds.</p><p>All in all, I can't really agree that this test is accurate, but it could at least give a general overview of the potential in each neighborhood.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd agree on its accuracy except that when I run torrents , my torrents spike up to the levels that I got in this test ( 12mbps down ) then stabilize at 500-600kB/s or about 4-5mbps down which is what my isp advertises.I 'm assuming that the file size is small for broadband testing purposes to save them some bandwidth .
But ideally a test like this would n't be short spikes of data ?
A 50 ?
100 ? MB file would be a better test.As for the uploading , that was more or less accurate at 900kbps .
Ca n't really say much there other than I gots me some throttled upload speeds.All in all , I ca n't really agree that this test is accurate , but it could at least give a general overview of the potential in each neighborhood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd agree on its accuracy except that when I run torrents, my torrents spike up to the levels that I got in this test (12mbps down) then stabilize at 500-600kB/s or about 4-5mbps down which is what my isp advertises.I'm assuming that the file size is small for broadband testing purposes to save them some bandwidth.
But ideally a test like this wouldn't be short spikes of data?
A 50?
100? MB file would be a better test.As for the uploading, that was more or less accurate at 900kbps.
Can't really say much there other than I gots me some throttled upload speeds.All in all, I can't really agree that this test is accurate, but it could at least give a general overview of the potential in each neighborhood.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31454496</id>
	<title>Re:Well my data was totally bunk</title>
	<author>Bengie</author>
	<datestamp>1268423040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ditto here. I got a 5/1 connection but with "power boost". Each connection stream gets a free 10 seconds of 30mbit at the start of the connection. I usually get 15mbit from New York, 20mbit from Chicago and 28mbit from my state for speed test.</p><p>Overall, I like power boost. It's not limited to just 10 seconds either. If my download caps at 10mbit, the "boost" will continue on for 30 seconds instead of 30mbit for 10seconds. I'm not sure where the cut-off is, but it's not a fixed amount of time, but a fixed amount of boosted data. I've seen Steam drag on a 7mbit download for quite a while. Eventually it tappered off to my 5mbit and jumped around between 4.9-5.1mbit.</p><p>My ISP claims the boost is per connection/stream. I know I can chain several downloads, one after the other, and maintain my boosted speed. I wonder if P2P style downloading could  get around my 5mbit cap or ma'b my ISP has a second cap that will trigger if the boosted speed is too high for too long.</p><p>My speed might not be faster, but I get exactly my rated speed at all times of the day and very low pings anywhere in the USA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ditto here .
I got a 5/1 connection but with " power boost " .
Each connection stream gets a free 10 seconds of 30mbit at the start of the connection .
I usually get 15mbit from New York , 20mbit from Chicago and 28mbit from my state for speed test.Overall , I like power boost .
It 's not limited to just 10 seconds either .
If my download caps at 10mbit , the " boost " will continue on for 30 seconds instead of 30mbit for 10seconds .
I 'm not sure where the cut-off is , but it 's not a fixed amount of time , but a fixed amount of boosted data .
I 've seen Steam drag on a 7mbit download for quite a while .
Eventually it tappered off to my 5mbit and jumped around between 4.9-5.1mbit.My ISP claims the boost is per connection/stream .
I know I can chain several downloads , one after the other , and maintain my boosted speed .
I wonder if P2P style downloading could get around my 5mbit cap or ma'b my ISP has a second cap that will trigger if the boosted speed is too high for too long.My speed might not be faster , but I get exactly my rated speed at all times of the day and very low pings anywhere in the USA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ditto here.
I got a 5/1 connection but with "power boost".
Each connection stream gets a free 10 seconds of 30mbit at the start of the connection.
I usually get 15mbit from New York, 20mbit from Chicago and 28mbit from my state for speed test.Overall, I like power boost.
It's not limited to just 10 seconds either.
If my download caps at 10mbit, the "boost" will continue on for 30 seconds instead of 30mbit for 10seconds.
I'm not sure where the cut-off is, but it's not a fixed amount of time, but a fixed amount of boosted data.
I've seen Steam drag on a 7mbit download for quite a while.
Eventually it tappered off to my 5mbit and jumped around between 4.9-5.1mbit.My ISP claims the boost is per connection/stream.
I know I can chain several downloads, one after the other, and maintain my boosted speed.
I wonder if P2P style downloading could  get around my 5mbit cap or ma'b my ISP has a second cap that will trigger if the boosted speed is too high for too long.My speed might not be faster, but I get exactly my rated speed at all times of the day and very low pings anywhere in the USA.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452538</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451140</id>
	<title>Comcast Network Engineers will be busy</title>
	<author>sjlutz</author>
	<datestamp>1268406660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surely, those Net Admins at Comcast will be looking at this and figuring out where the test is connecting to, and then modifying their configurations so that their filtering/slowdown settings do not interfere with a users ability to get FULL speed just to the testing site.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely , those Net Admins at Comcast will be looking at this and figuring out where the test is connecting to , and then modifying their configurations so that their filtering/slowdown settings do not interfere with a users ability to get FULL speed just to the testing site .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely, those Net Admins at Comcast will be looking at this and figuring out where the test is connecting to, and then modifying their configurations so that their filtering/slowdown settings do not interfere with a users ability to get FULL speed just to the testing site.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451918</id>
	<title>Re:Geolocation?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268410860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>LOL, you're confusing their using your data with letting you use the test.  There is little reason to restrict operations of the testing program to known US IP addresses, as somebody would just complain if they got left out accidentally despite being in the US.  So they'll just filter their results, and ignore your data when it comes time to present a report.</p><p>Ok. so maybe there will be a footnote to say "Also, a bunch of morons from Cameroon connected, this is what they got" .</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>LOL , you 're confusing their using your data with letting you use the test .
There is little reason to restrict operations of the testing program to known US IP addresses , as somebody would just complain if they got left out accidentally despite being in the US .
So they 'll just filter their results , and ignore your data when it comes time to present a report.Ok .
so maybe there will be a footnote to say " Also , a bunch of morons from Cameroon connected , this is what they got " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LOL, you're confusing their using your data with letting you use the test.
There is little reason to restrict operations of the testing program to known US IP addresses, as somebody would just complain if they got left out accidentally despite being in the US.
So they'll just filter their results, and ignore your data when it comes time to present a report.Ok.
so maybe there will be a footnote to say "Also, a bunch of morons from Cameroon connected, this is what they got" .</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451166</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452516</id>
	<title>Re:Classic failures</title>
	<author>jketch</author>
	<datestamp>1268413620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tolls on highways are actually one of the more economically efficient forms of tax, at least if the highways are crowded and you can do it in a way that doesn't impede traffic too much (which EZpass more or less accomplishes.)  This is because when an additional car gets onto a busy road, it imposes an economic cost on every other car on that road by increasing congestion, having to merge onto the highway, etc.  A toll set at the proper level can alleviate this effect by ensuring that cars do not enter the highway unless it the value they gain from being on the highway is greater than the cost they impose on the other cars.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tolls on highways are actually one of the more economically efficient forms of tax , at least if the highways are crowded and you can do it in a way that does n't impede traffic too much ( which EZpass more or less accomplishes .
) This is because when an additional car gets onto a busy road , it imposes an economic cost on every other car on that road by increasing congestion , having to merge onto the highway , etc .
A toll set at the proper level can alleviate this effect by ensuring that cars do not enter the highway unless it the value they gain from being on the highway is greater than the cost they impose on the other cars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tolls on highways are actually one of the more economically efficient forms of tax, at least if the highways are crowded and you can do it in a way that doesn't impede traffic too much (which EZpass more or less accomplishes.
)  This is because when an additional car gets onto a busy road, it imposes an economic cost on every other car on that road by increasing congestion, having to merge onto the highway, etc.
A toll set at the proper level can alleviate this effect by ensuring that cars do not enter the highway unless it the value they gain from being on the highway is greater than the cost they impose on the other cars.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451368</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451898</id>
	<title>DO YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF INTERNET ???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268410740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh please, here comes the government again trying to regulate everything.....</p><p>What's next, are they going to try to ban salt from being sold at restaurants???<br>No that only happens in movies like Demolition Man<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p><p>But  Wait :</p><p>http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20100312/NEWS01/3120329/1003</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh please , here comes the government again trying to regulate everything.....What 's next , are they going to try to ban salt from being sold at restaurants ? ?
? No that only happens in movies like Demolition Man ....But Wait : http : //www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20100312/NEWS01/3120329/1003</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh please, here comes the government again trying to regulate everything.....What's next, are they going to try to ban salt from being sold at restaurants??
?No that only happens in movies like Demolition Man ....But  Wait :http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20100312/NEWS01/3120329/1003</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452538</id>
	<title>Well my data was totally bunk</title>
	<author>vsage3</author>
	<datestamp>1268413740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I pay for a 3Mbit / 0.5Mbit connection and this software showed I downloaded at a whopping 22Mb/s.  I see this all the time when doing things like use www.speedtest.net but I do NOT see these speeds for sustained periods.  It seems like my ISP (Clearwire) has some sort of very short download acceleration scheme to game these types of tests.  Not that I am not satisfied with Clearwire, but the FCC's testing methods should really take stuff like this into account.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I pay for a 3Mbit / 0.5Mbit connection and this software showed I downloaded at a whopping 22Mb/s .
I see this all the time when doing things like use www.speedtest.net but I do NOT see these speeds for sustained periods .
It seems like my ISP ( Clearwire ) has some sort of very short download acceleration scheme to game these types of tests .
Not that I am not satisfied with Clearwire , but the FCC 's testing methods should really take stuff like this into account .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I pay for a 3Mbit / 0.5Mbit connection and this software showed I downloaded at a whopping 22Mb/s.
I see this all the time when doing things like use www.speedtest.net but I do NOT see these speeds for sustained periods.
It seems like my ISP (Clearwire) has some sort of very short download acceleration scheme to game these types of tests.
Not that I am not satisfied with Clearwire, but the FCC's testing methods should really take stuff like this into account.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31455676</id>
	<title>Re:Comcast Network Engineers will be busy</title>
	<author>u-235-sentinel</author>
	<datestamp>1268384820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Surely, those Net Admins at Comcast will be looking at this and figuring out where the test is connecting to, and then modifying their configurations so that their filtering/slowdown settings do not interfere with a users ability to get FULL speed just to the testing site.</p></div><p>That would never happen.  Concast is a good company with high quality people taking care of your every need. They should be applauded for providing a 3-6 meg pipe to every home.  Just because it's a shared pipe doesn't mean anything.  If everyone ran it at the right time throughout the day, it would look great.  Just make sure you guys don't all run it at the same time on the same node. That would piss them off and you like your network pipe right?</p><p>I SAID YOU LIKE YOUR NETWORK PIPE RIGHT!!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely , those Net Admins at Comcast will be looking at this and figuring out where the test is connecting to , and then modifying their configurations so that their filtering/slowdown settings do not interfere with a users ability to get FULL speed just to the testing site.That would never happen .
Concast is a good company with high quality people taking care of your every need .
They should be applauded for providing a 3-6 meg pipe to every home .
Just because it 's a shared pipe does n't mean anything .
If everyone ran it at the right time throughout the day , it would look great .
Just make sure you guys do n't all run it at the same time on the same node .
That would piss them off and you like your network pipe right ? I SAID YOU LIKE YOUR NETWORK PIPE RIGHT ! !
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely, those Net Admins at Comcast will be looking at this and figuring out where the test is connecting to, and then modifying their configurations so that their filtering/slowdown settings do not interfere with a users ability to get FULL speed just to the testing site.That would never happen.
Concast is a good company with high quality people taking care of your every need.
They should be applauded for providing a 3-6 meg pipe to every home.
Just because it's a shared pipe doesn't mean anything.
If everyone ran it at the right time throughout the day, it would look great.
Just make sure you guys don't all run it at the same time on the same node.
That would piss them off and you like your network pipe right?I SAID YOU LIKE YOUR NETWORK PIPE RIGHT!!
;-)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451140</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451014</id>
	<title>This is nice I guess</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But why not something more along bredbandskollen.se, which has been around in Sweden for a long time (counting the previuos open-source win32/linux client available). More automated, less java.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But why not something more along bredbandskollen.se , which has been around in Sweden for a long time ( counting the previuos open-source win32/linux client available ) .
More automated , less java .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But why not something more along bredbandskollen.se, which has been around in Sweden for a long time (counting the previuos open-source win32/linux client available).
More automated, less java.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451324</id>
	<title>Locked up</title>
	<author>methano</author>
	<datestamp>1268407800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think the site got slashdotted.  Firefox, on my Al 2007 iMac (Snow Leopard), locked up.  Will try again later.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the site got slashdotted .
Firefox , on my Al 2007 iMac ( Snow Leopard ) , locked up .
Will try again later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the site got slashdotted.
Firefox, on my Al 2007 iMac (Snow Leopard), locked up.
Will try again later.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451688</id>
	<title>Re:Browser sensitive!</title>
	<author>Artifakt</author>
	<datestamp>1268409720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The M-lab version also didn't work for me (Firefox, but on Kubuntu). Ookla seems to work (25 M down, 2.5 M up, 50 ms latency sounds about right). Go figure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The M-lab version also did n't work for me ( Firefox , but on Kubuntu ) .
Ookla seems to work ( 25 M down , 2.5 M up , 50 ms latency sounds about right ) .
Go figure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The M-lab version also didn't work for me (Firefox, but on Kubuntu).
Ookla seems to work (25 M down, 2.5 M up, 50 ms latency sounds about right).
Go figure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451090</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451524</id>
	<title>Re:Comcast Network Engineers will be busy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268408880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not just comcast.</p><p>I ran the test twice, once with M-LAB the other with Ookla - both returned results I've *never* seen in my 2 years of service with my ISP. Even at that, Ookla measured my download/upload speeds as more than 2x the M-LAB speeds.</p><p>Now to figure out how to use broadband.gov as a proxy<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not just comcast.I ran the test twice , once with M-LAB the other with Ookla - both returned results I 've * never * seen in my 2 years of service with my ISP .
Even at that , Ookla measured my download/upload speeds as more than 2x the M-LAB speeds.Now to figure out how to use broadband.gov as a proxy : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not just comcast.I ran the test twice, once with M-LAB the other with Ookla - both returned results I've *never* seen in my 2 years of service with my ISP.
Even at that, Ookla measured my download/upload speeds as more than 2x the M-LAB speeds.Now to figure out how to use broadband.gov as a proxy :)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31455302</id>
	<title>How am I supposed to know?</title>
	<author>Taibhsear</author>
	<datestamp>1268426460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How am I supposed to know which neighbor I'm mooching off of? It's not like their SSID has their address on it.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...uh, I mean... I just pay everyone with a router in the area for access... yeah, that's the ticket.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How am I supposed to know which neighbor I 'm mooching off of ?
It 's not like their SSID has their address on it .
...uh , I mean... I just pay everyone with a router in the area for access... yeah , that 's the ticket .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How am I supposed to know which neighbor I'm mooching off of?
It's not like their SSID has their address on it.
...uh, I mean... I just pay everyone with a router in the area for access... yeah, that's the ticket.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453962</id>
	<title>Re:One of the more accurate tests I've run</title>
	<author>MikeURL</author>
	<datestamp>1268420460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In a densely packed city you could potentially have good ISP service on one side of the street and lousy service on the other side.  i guess they want to be prepared to deal with the data right down to the living unit level.  This doesn't make me want to double-layer my tin-foil hat.  Also, I imagine they want the exact address so that they can map it directly to the postal database and run some very targeted reports.
<br> <br>
Eventually this effort has to get right down to the level of the line, or EM, entering/exiting every home.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In a densely packed city you could potentially have good ISP service on one side of the street and lousy service on the other side .
i guess they want to be prepared to deal with the data right down to the living unit level .
This does n't make me want to double-layer my tin-foil hat .
Also , I imagine they want the exact address so that they can map it directly to the postal database and run some very targeted reports .
Eventually this effort has to get right down to the level of the line , or EM , entering/exiting every home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a densely packed city you could potentially have good ISP service on one side of the street and lousy service on the other side.
i guess they want to be prepared to deal with the data right down to the living unit level.
This doesn't make me want to double-layer my tin-foil hat.
Also, I imagine they want the exact address so that they can map it directly to the postal database and run some very targeted reports.
Eventually this effort has to get right down to the level of the line, or EM, entering/exiting every home.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31460382</id>
	<title>Re:Mine is</title>
	<author>Bengie</author>
	<datestamp>1268406300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My ISP advertises 1/5 for me. On the broadband speed test I got 1070kbps up and 10mbps down.. power boost..<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-|  20ms latency and 2ms jitter. Tried both options and got the same results and I just tested at 7:30p which is during peak hours.</p><p>I don't have fast speeds, but nice reliable connection and I get the exact speed I'm advertised.. although, my ISP just applied for bankruptcy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My ISP advertises 1/5 for me .
On the broadband speed test I got 1070kbps up and 10mbps down.. power boost.. : - | 20ms latency and 2ms jitter .
Tried both options and got the same results and I just tested at 7 : 30p which is during peak hours.I do n't have fast speeds , but nice reliable connection and I get the exact speed I 'm advertised.. although , my ISP just applied for bankruptcy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My ISP advertises 1/5 for me.
On the broadband speed test I got 1070kbps up and 10mbps down.. power boost.. :-|  20ms latency and 2ms jitter.
Tried both options and got the same results and I just tested at 7:30p which is during peak hours.I don't have fast speeds, but nice reliable connection and I get the exact speed I'm advertised.. although, my ISP just applied for bankruptcy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451054</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453040</id>
	<title>Re:They need to give us better motivation</title>
	<author>Turzyx</author>
	<datestamp>1268416380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, and the title should have read<p><div class="quote"><p>FCC Asks You To Test Your Right-hand Speeds</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and the title should have readFCC Asks You To Test Your Right-hand Speeds</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and the title should have readFCC Asks You To Test Your Right-hand Speeds
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450996</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451872</id>
	<title>Re:One of the more accurate tests I've run</title>
	<author>YojimboJango</author>
	<datestamp>1268410620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Wouldn't a simple portion of your address work well enough (e.g. 1xx Main St 90210) instead of the entire thing? Even if they were looking to aggregate the information by Zip+4 that should be enough, right? Who needs it any lower than that?</p></div></blockquote><p>
Except for in neighbourhoods like mine where I have the option for Charter Cable (@3m/768k) and AT&amp;T DSL (@768k/128k), while two blocks south west has Comcast and AT&amp;T Uverse, and about a mile north is Comcast and Verizon Fios.  We all share the same zip+4 (or very close to it), but the neighbourhood has very solid boundaries for who competes with who.  We have four companies competing in the same zip code, yet there's no place where Charter competes with Comcast, and there's no place where AT&amp;T competes with Verizon.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't a simple portion of your address work well enough ( e.g .
1xx Main St 90210 ) instead of the entire thing ?
Even if they were looking to aggregate the information by Zip + 4 that should be enough , right ?
Who needs it any lower than that ?
Except for in neighbourhoods like mine where I have the option for Charter Cable ( @ 3m/768k ) and AT&amp;T DSL ( @ 768k/128k ) , while two blocks south west has Comcast and AT&amp;T Uverse , and about a mile north is Comcast and Verizon Fios .
We all share the same zip + 4 ( or very close to it ) , but the neighbourhood has very solid boundaries for who competes with who .
We have four companies competing in the same zip code , yet there 's no place where Charter competes with Comcast , and there 's no place where AT&amp;T competes with Verizon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't a simple portion of your address work well enough (e.g.
1xx Main St 90210) instead of the entire thing?
Even if they were looking to aggregate the information by Zip+4 that should be enough, right?
Who needs it any lower than that?
Except for in neighbourhoods like mine where I have the option for Charter Cable (@3m/768k) and AT&amp;T DSL (@768k/128k), while two blocks south west has Comcast and AT&amp;T Uverse, and about a mile north is Comcast and Verizon Fios.
We all share the same zip+4 (or very close to it), but the neighbourhood has very solid boundaries for who competes with who.
We have four companies competing in the same zip code, yet there's no place where Charter competes with Comcast, and there's no place where AT&amp;T competes with Verizon.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31454580</id>
	<title>Re:One of the more accurate tests I've run</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1268423460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Round your address to your block, e.g. write 1200 Main instead of 1234 Main. Of course they'll be able to poinpoint you by the fact that they have all the <i>other</i> addresses on the block, then this odd 1200 which doesn't exist. Being paranoid is tough.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Round your address to your block , e.g .
write 1200 Main instead of 1234 Main .
Of course they 'll be able to poinpoint you by the fact that they have all the other addresses on the block , then this odd 1200 which does n't exist .
Being paranoid is tough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Round your address to your block, e.g.
write 1200 Main instead of 1234 Main.
Of course they'll be able to poinpoint you by the fact that they have all the other addresses on the block, then this odd 1200 which doesn't exist.
Being paranoid is tough.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453010</id>
	<title>Just the first step</title>
	<author>rickb928</author>
	<datestamp>1268416200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The first step to rolling out universal coverage.</p><p>At taxpayer expense.</p><p>It seems inevitable.  Rural Electrification was a tremendous blessing, allowing dairy farmers to cool milk and improve quality, and giving other farmers a few more hours a night to have a life.  Telephones (the original cyberspace, thank you, perhaps superceded only by telegraph, the precursor to Usenet) also solved many a problem.  So universal Internet will be the logical extension of that.  Yes, VOIP for rural America might be worth it alone.  Think of it as an uplift of the POTS cable plant.  Some part of America sure need that.  The existing POTS cable plant is getting pretty old and decrepit here and there.</p><p>Much as I hate being billed for universl Internet *AGAIN*, it is probably a good thing.  Certainly more value to me than universal Federal healthcare or a national biometric ID card.</p><p>I don't really begrudge rural Americans the access to broadband (read 'actually useful') Internet access, but I've lived a fair amount of my life in 'rural America'.  There are tradeoffs:</p><p>You can't just pop around the corner for late-night pizza.  You can't get it delivered at all.</p><p>It takes some planning to buy ice cream at the supermarket.</p><p>Getting the oil tank filled can become a neighborhood effort, or you pay much more per gallon.</p><p>Letting your car run low on gas becomes an adventure.</p><p>Cell service is not just spotty, you lose the call three times before your party answers, and batteries go quick as your phone spends a lot of its time searching for signal.  Roaming to the #@@hole local provider that refuses to make an agreement with your national provider makes your wallet feel like Grand Central Station.</p><p>Satellite TV is always a challenge.  Every few years you need to move the dish as your treasured cedar hedge grows another few feet.  At some point the mast is high enough to sway in high winds (as in frequently) and give you more snow than February.</p><p>Broadcast HDTV is pointless.  You need an array to get a decent signal.</p><p>Then again:</p><p>The nights are so quiet you are deafend by it for the first few weeks.  Until the peepers come out in spring.</p><p>Drive-by shootings are largely jackers thinking that shiny windcatcher on your deck is a deers eyes.  Fortunately, they are fairly accurate shooters. Unfortunately, they mostly use<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.308s and 30-06s.</p><p>Your annoying in-laws rarely visit.</p><p>You are no longer at the beck and call of your boss.  He can't get through.</p><p>Instead of spending the nights watching pr0n, you spend the nights making pr0n.</p><p>You can walk around the backyard looking as if you are making pr0n.  Nobody sees or cares.</p><p>Your annoying neighbors are at least a half-mile away.</p><p>Calling in sick because you can't shovel out the end of the driveway is plausible.  Not doing any work because satellite Internet makes the VPN unusable is a blessing.</p><p>And satellite TV is overrated.  You get to read a lot more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The first step to rolling out universal coverage.At taxpayer expense.It seems inevitable .
Rural Electrification was a tremendous blessing , allowing dairy farmers to cool milk and improve quality , and giving other farmers a few more hours a night to have a life .
Telephones ( the original cyberspace , thank you , perhaps superceded only by telegraph , the precursor to Usenet ) also solved many a problem .
So universal Internet will be the logical extension of that .
Yes , VOIP for rural America might be worth it alone .
Think of it as an uplift of the POTS cable plant .
Some part of America sure need that .
The existing POTS cable plant is getting pretty old and decrepit here and there.Much as I hate being billed for universl Internet * AGAIN * , it is probably a good thing .
Certainly more value to me than universal Federal healthcare or a national biometric ID card.I do n't really begrudge rural Americans the access to broadband ( read 'actually useful ' ) Internet access , but I 've lived a fair amount of my life in 'rural America' .
There are tradeoffs : You ca n't just pop around the corner for late-night pizza .
You ca n't get it delivered at all.It takes some planning to buy ice cream at the supermarket.Getting the oil tank filled can become a neighborhood effort , or you pay much more per gallon.Letting your car run low on gas becomes an adventure.Cell service is not just spotty , you lose the call three times before your party answers , and batteries go quick as your phone spends a lot of its time searching for signal .
Roaming to the # @ @ hole local provider that refuses to make an agreement with your national provider makes your wallet feel like Grand Central Station.Satellite TV is always a challenge .
Every few years you need to move the dish as your treasured cedar hedge grows another few feet .
At some point the mast is high enough to sway in high winds ( as in frequently ) and give you more snow than February.Broadcast HDTV is pointless .
You need an array to get a decent signal.Then again : The nights are so quiet you are deafend by it for the first few weeks .
Until the peepers come out in spring.Drive-by shootings are largely jackers thinking that shiny windcatcher on your deck is a deers eyes .
Fortunately , they are fairly accurate shooters .
Unfortunately , they mostly use .308s and 30-06s.Your annoying in-laws rarely visit.You are no longer at the beck and call of your boss .
He ca n't get through.Instead of spending the nights watching pr0n , you spend the nights making pr0n.You can walk around the backyard looking as if you are making pr0n .
Nobody sees or cares.Your annoying neighbors are at least a half-mile away.Calling in sick because you ca n't shovel out the end of the driveway is plausible .
Not doing any work because satellite Internet makes the VPN unusable is a blessing.And satellite TV is overrated .
You get to read a lot more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The first step to rolling out universal coverage.At taxpayer expense.It seems inevitable.
Rural Electrification was a tremendous blessing, allowing dairy farmers to cool milk and improve quality, and giving other farmers a few more hours a night to have a life.
Telephones (the original cyberspace, thank you, perhaps superceded only by telegraph, the precursor to Usenet) also solved many a problem.
So universal Internet will be the logical extension of that.
Yes, VOIP for rural America might be worth it alone.
Think of it as an uplift of the POTS cable plant.
Some part of America sure need that.
The existing POTS cable plant is getting pretty old and decrepit here and there.Much as I hate being billed for universl Internet *AGAIN*, it is probably a good thing.
Certainly more value to me than universal Federal healthcare or a national biometric ID card.I don't really begrudge rural Americans the access to broadband (read 'actually useful') Internet access, but I've lived a fair amount of my life in 'rural America'.
There are tradeoffs:You can't just pop around the corner for late-night pizza.
You can't get it delivered at all.It takes some planning to buy ice cream at the supermarket.Getting the oil tank filled can become a neighborhood effort, or you pay much more per gallon.Letting your car run low on gas becomes an adventure.Cell service is not just spotty, you lose the call three times before your party answers, and batteries go quick as your phone spends a lot of its time searching for signal.
Roaming to the #@@hole local provider that refuses to make an agreement with your national provider makes your wallet feel like Grand Central Station.Satellite TV is always a challenge.
Every few years you need to move the dish as your treasured cedar hedge grows another few feet.
At some point the mast is high enough to sway in high winds (as in frequently) and give you more snow than February.Broadcast HDTV is pointless.
You need an array to get a decent signal.Then again:The nights are so quiet you are deafend by it for the first few weeks.
Until the peepers come out in spring.Drive-by shootings are largely jackers thinking that shiny windcatcher on your deck is a deers eyes.
Fortunately, they are fairly accurate shooters.
Unfortunately, they mostly use .308s and 30-06s.Your annoying in-laws rarely visit.You are no longer at the beck and call of your boss.
He can't get through.Instead of spending the nights watching pr0n, you spend the nights making pr0n.You can walk around the backyard looking as if you are making pr0n.
Nobody sees or cares.Your annoying neighbors are at least a half-mile away.Calling in sick because you can't shovel out the end of the driveway is plausible.
Not doing any work because satellite Internet makes the VPN unusable is a blessing.And satellite TV is overrated.
You get to read a lot more.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31458022</id>
	<title>this thread called it.</title>
	<author>liamuk</author>
	<datestamp>1268394600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems Verizon FiOS in new jersey has already uncapped broadband.gov. I get a dl speed of 20 mbps when the advertised is 15. They should set it up as a proxy...</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems Verizon FiOS in new jersey has already uncapped broadband.gov .
I get a dl speed of 20 mbps when the advertised is 15 .
They should set it up as a proxy.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems Verizon FiOS in new jersey has already uncapped broadband.gov.
I get a dl speed of 20 mbps when the advertised is 15.
They should set it up as a proxy...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31454238</id>
	<title>Java applet crashed Firefox on Arch Linux</title>
	<author>concernedadmin</author>
	<datestamp>1268421840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I successfully completed the download, upload, and latency tests. When the jitter test started, a Java dialog box appeared and I OK'd it. It then crashed my browser (Mozilla Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100207 Firefox/3.6). I repeated the process and confirmed that it was the Java applet that crashed my browser.</p><p>I couldn't download the compiled Java bytecode and reverse assemble it. Anyone else?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I successfully completed the download , upload , and latency tests .
When the jitter test started , a Java dialog box appeared and I OK 'd it .
It then crashed my browser ( Mozilla Firefox : Mozilla/5.0 ( X11 ; U ; Linux i686 ; en-US ; rv : 1.9.2 ) Gecko/20100207 Firefox/3.6 ) .
I repeated the process and confirmed that it was the Java applet that crashed my browser.I could n't download the compiled Java bytecode and reverse assemble it .
Anyone else ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I successfully completed the download, upload, and latency tests.
When the jitter test started, a Java dialog box appeared and I OK'd it.
It then crashed my browser (Mozilla Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100207 Firefox/3.6).
I repeated the process and confirmed that it was the Java applet that crashed my browser.I couldn't download the compiled Java bytecode and reverse assemble it.
Anyone else?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31455596</id>
	<title>windstream pass</title>
	<author>luther349</author>
	<datestamp>1268384460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>what can i say my isp windstream works at the speeds they say it works at. i think alot of people confuse isp wording of speed. if they say your line is 3 mbs you get abought 300 kb down. a 10mbs line from comcast is 1 mag down. i also got a pretty wicked upload speed for a dsl line 80kb up. ditching cable for windstream dsl was the best thing i ever did. and the rates are half of what cable is for the same speed in my area. but windstream is one of the few fre good honest isp providers in the usa. no stupid limits or speed caps when using something like bittorrent. also i got free unlimites usenet acess something cable isps got rid of.</htmltext>
<tokenext>what can i say my isp windstream works at the speeds they say it works at .
i think alot of people confuse isp wording of speed .
if they say your line is 3 mbs you get abought 300 kb down .
a 10mbs line from comcast is 1 mag down .
i also got a pretty wicked upload speed for a dsl line 80kb up .
ditching cable for windstream dsl was the best thing i ever did .
and the rates are half of what cable is for the same speed in my area .
but windstream is one of the few fre good honest isp providers in the usa .
no stupid limits or speed caps when using something like bittorrent .
also i got free unlimites usenet acess something cable isps got rid of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what can i say my isp windstream works at the speeds they say it works at.
i think alot of people confuse isp wording of speed.
if they say your line is 3 mbs you get abought 300 kb down.
a 10mbs line from comcast is 1 mag down.
i also got a pretty wicked upload speed for a dsl line 80kb up.
ditching cable for windstream dsl was the best thing i ever did.
and the rates are half of what cable is for the same speed in my area.
but windstream is one of the few fre good honest isp providers in the usa.
no stupid limits or speed caps when using something like bittorrent.
also i got free unlimites usenet acess something cable isps got rid of.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451372</id>
	<title>Re:Browser sensitive!</title>
	<author>Rallias Ubernerd</author>
	<datestamp>1268408100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They don't allow standards-compliant browsers to do the test because they hold Java to its security regulations of not allowing it to access any page except for one on the same server that referenced the applet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't allow standards-compliant browsers to do the test because they hold Java to its security regulations of not allowing it to access any page except for one on the same server that referenced the applet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't allow standards-compliant browsers to do the test because they hold Java to its security regulations of not allowing it to access any page except for one on the same server that referenced the applet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451090</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451172</id>
	<title>Re:One of the more accurate tests I've run</title>
	<author>hoyty</author>
	<datestamp>1268406900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to agree for me at least.  It gave me 33 down and 38 up which is pretty close to my FIOS 35/35.  Even with the problems outlined in the linked review I think the collected data placed against a given providers claims would be useful on a large scale.  I wonder if the collect the ISP based on ARIN data?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree for me at least .
It gave me 33 down and 38 up which is pretty close to my FIOS 35/35 .
Even with the problems outlined in the linked review I think the collected data placed against a given providers claims would be useful on a large scale .
I wonder if the collect the ISP based on ARIN data ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree for me at least.
It gave me 33 down and 38 up which is pretty close to my FIOS 35/35.
Even with the problems outlined in the linked review I think the collected data placed against a given providers claims would be useful on a large scale.
I wonder if the collect the ISP based on ARIN data?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453244</id>
	<title>We in Sweden have this already</title>
	<author>FenixBrood</author>
	<datestamp>1268417340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.bredbandskollen.se/" title="bredbandskollen.se" rel="nofollow">http://www.bredbandskollen.se/</a> [bredbandskollen.se]

Tool to test your connection - No Java required

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<tokenext>http : //www.bredbandskollen.se/ [ bredbandskollen.se ] Tool to test your connection - No Java required Sweden Number One !
Sweden Number One !
Sweden Number One !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.bredbandskollen.se/ [bredbandskollen.se]

Tool to test your connection - No Java required

Sweden Number One!
Sweden Number One!
Sweden Number One!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450940</id>
	<title>Hmm...</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1268405520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...I would like to help them out by providing the necessary data, but I'm not sure how comfortable I am with it...tinfoil hat and all that.  Anyone planning on doing this?  Why or why not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...I would like to help them out by providing the necessary data , but I 'm not sure how comfortable I am with it...tinfoil hat and all that .
Anyone planning on doing this ?
Why or why not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...I would like to help them out by providing the necessary data, but I'm not sure how comfortable I am with it...tinfoil hat and all that.
Anyone planning on doing this?
Why or why not?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451430</id>
	<title>Re:if I were them</title>
	<author>eth1</author>
	<datestamp>1268408400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This was my first thought, too... Wondering how long it would take every ISP in the country to put this testing traffic to the top of their QoS &amp; traffic shaping priorities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This was my first thought , too... Wondering how long it would take every ISP in the country to put this testing traffic to the top of their QoS &amp; traffic shaping priorities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This was my first thought, too... Wondering how long it would take every ISP in the country to put this testing traffic to the top of their QoS &amp; traffic shaping priorities.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451022</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451444</id>
	<title>Re:One of the more accurate tests I've run</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268408460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wouldn't a simple portion of your address work well enough (e.g. 1xx Main St 90210) instead of the entire thing? Even if they were looking to aggregate the information by Zip+4 that should be enough, right? Who needs it any lower than that?</p></div><p>I, for one, appreciate that they want a precise address. Satellite is the only broadband available to my home.  No DSL, cable, WISP, etc.  600 yards away, my next door neighbor gets 10/1 cable.  My address number is 4380 - his is 4300.  Same Zip+4.</p><p>I could run the test, but it wouldn't benefit me, as the pair of yagi antennae and the case of Kessler/year will sway my results.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't a simple portion of your address work well enough ( e.g .
1xx Main St 90210 ) instead of the entire thing ?
Even if they were looking to aggregate the information by Zip + 4 that should be enough , right ?
Who needs it any lower than that ? I , for one , appreciate that they want a precise address .
Satellite is the only broadband available to my home .
No DSL , cable , WISP , etc .
600 yards away , my next door neighbor gets 10/1 cable .
My address number is 4380 - his is 4300 .
Same Zip + 4.I could run the test , but it would n't benefit me , as the pair of yagi antennae and the case of Kessler/year will sway my results .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't a simple portion of your address work well enough (e.g.
1xx Main St 90210) instead of the entire thing?
Even if they were looking to aggregate the information by Zip+4 that should be enough, right?
Who needs it any lower than that?I, for one, appreciate that they want a precise address.
Satellite is the only broadband available to my home.
No DSL, cable, WISP, etc.
600 yards away, my next door neighbor gets 10/1 cable.
My address number is 4380 - his is 4300.
Same Zip+4.I could run the test, but it wouldn't benefit me, as the pair of yagi antennae and the case of Kessler/year will sway my results.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453198</id>
	<title>Re:Test server slashdotted already?</title>
	<author>precariousgray</author>
	<datestamp>1268417160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just experienced the same thing, though because I only have 1000/384 DSL, the latency was off in my case.  It reported ~250ms latency, ~300 jitter; with Ookla, those figures became 32 and 1, respectively.
<br> <br>
<b>Someone should have tested the test before releasing it.</b></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just experienced the same thing , though because I only have 1000/384 DSL , the latency was off in my case .
It reported ~ 250ms latency , ~ 300 jitter ; with Ookla , those figures became 32 and 1 , respectively .
Someone should have tested the test before releasing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just experienced the same thing, though because I only have 1000/384 DSL, the latency was off in my case.
It reported ~250ms latency, ~300 jitter; with Ookla, those figures became 32 and 1, respectively.
Someone should have tested the test before releasing it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451002</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451032</id>
	<title>... so is Flash</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Flash is also required to run the tests. Please correct the article.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Flash is also required to run the tests .
Please correct the article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flash is also required to run the tests.
Please correct the article.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451256</id>
	<title>Java and Flash required?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268407440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Epic fail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Epic fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Epic fail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31455998</id>
	<title>Re:Why the need of an addy?</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1268386200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They can trace the IP, but it will lead them to your provider, not your house.  I think the idea here is to learn about speed according to geographic location (i.e., neighborhood) rather than by provider.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They can trace the IP , but it will lead them to your provider , not your house .
I think the idea here is to learn about speed according to geographic location ( i.e. , neighborhood ) rather than by provider .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They can trace the IP, but it will lead them to your provider, not your house.
I think the idea here is to learn about speed according to geographic location (i.e., neighborhood) rather than by provider.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450996</id>
	<title>They need to give us better motivation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268405880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>ie have the applet download some porn and measure how long it took!</htmltext>
<tokenext>ie have the applet download some porn and measure how long it took !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ie have the applet download some porn and measure how long it took!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452504</id>
	<title>Re:Browser sensitive!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268413500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>this explains why it did not work with the android webkit browser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this explains why it did not work with the android webkit browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this explains why it did not work with the android webkit browser.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451090</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451424</id>
	<title>The FCC, A Captured Regulatory Agency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268408400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a waste of time, and simply another one in the current Democratic FCC's array of disappointments.  This kind of voluntary speed test information gathering is worthless, since there's no way to vet the contributors' address claims.  It's really just for show, just like the rest of the FCC's attempts to regulate.

</p><p>The problem right now is the FCC's policies, and from what I've heard its upcoming National Broadband Plan, are wimpy, non-confrontational, and will do nothing to change the status quo in the current duopoly broadband industry.  Genachowski, the head of the FCC, early in the NBP creation process took government intervention off the table, essentially maiming any hope the agency had of accomplishing anything.  They have no anti-trust powers or backing from Congress. The agency itself is just too weak to accomplish anything.

</p><p>The worst example of this is the FCC commissioned a study to be conducted by Harvard's Berkman center to determine why US internet had lagged behind.  In the conclusion of the study, the foremost recommendation was the reinstitution of line-sharing, which had proved to be hugely successful in expanding broadband in European countries.  Yet despite its own commissioned report, the FCC's head of NBP creation, Blair Levin, refuted the usefulness of line-sharing, fearing the FCC would simply be tied up in court over it for years and years, just as Comcast did when it was punished by the FCC for secretly throttling people's P2P traffic.

</p><p>Until the FCC is given some real power there's no hope for changing things.  Unfortunately due to Congress being gridlocked over more important things like healthcare, we won't see this until at the earliest 2012, and only if Democrats maintain a majority in both House and Senate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a waste of time , and simply another one in the current Democratic FCC 's array of disappointments .
This kind of voluntary speed test information gathering is worthless , since there 's no way to vet the contributors ' address claims .
It 's really just for show , just like the rest of the FCC 's attempts to regulate .
The problem right now is the FCC 's policies , and from what I 've heard its upcoming National Broadband Plan , are wimpy , non-confrontational , and will do nothing to change the status quo in the current duopoly broadband industry .
Genachowski , the head of the FCC , early in the NBP creation process took government intervention off the table , essentially maiming any hope the agency had of accomplishing anything .
They have no anti-trust powers or backing from Congress .
The agency itself is just too weak to accomplish anything .
The worst example of this is the FCC commissioned a study to be conducted by Harvard 's Berkman center to determine why US internet had lagged behind .
In the conclusion of the study , the foremost recommendation was the reinstitution of line-sharing , which had proved to be hugely successful in expanding broadband in European countries .
Yet despite its own commissioned report , the FCC 's head of NBP creation , Blair Levin , refuted the usefulness of line-sharing , fearing the FCC would simply be tied up in court over it for years and years , just as Comcast did when it was punished by the FCC for secretly throttling people 's P2P traffic .
Until the FCC is given some real power there 's no hope for changing things .
Unfortunately due to Congress being gridlocked over more important things like healthcare , we wo n't see this until at the earliest 2012 , and only if Democrats maintain a majority in both House and Senate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a waste of time, and simply another one in the current Democratic FCC's array of disappointments.
This kind of voluntary speed test information gathering is worthless, since there's no way to vet the contributors' address claims.
It's really just for show, just like the rest of the FCC's attempts to regulate.
The problem right now is the FCC's policies, and from what I've heard its upcoming National Broadband Plan, are wimpy, non-confrontational, and will do nothing to change the status quo in the current duopoly broadband industry.
Genachowski, the head of the FCC, early in the NBP creation process took government intervention off the table, essentially maiming any hope the agency had of accomplishing anything.
They have no anti-trust powers or backing from Congress.
The agency itself is just too weak to accomplish anything.
The worst example of this is the FCC commissioned a study to be conducted by Harvard's Berkman center to determine why US internet had lagged behind.
In the conclusion of the study, the foremost recommendation was the reinstitution of line-sharing, which had proved to be hugely successful in expanding broadband in European countries.
Yet despite its own commissioned report, the FCC's head of NBP creation, Blair Levin, refuted the usefulness of line-sharing, fearing the FCC would simply be tied up in court over it for years and years, just as Comcast did when it was punished by the FCC for secretly throttling people's P2P traffic.
Until the FCC is given some real power there's no hope for changing things.
Unfortunately due to Congress being gridlocked over more important things like healthcare, we won't see this until at the earliest 2012, and only if Democrats maintain a majority in both House and Senate.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31452050</id>
	<title>Re:Why the need of an addy?</title>
	<author>hanabal</author>
	<datestamp>1268411460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>from my IP address you would think I am in Gilford, England. At least that's what all the IP location software I've used says. Where I am is far from Gliford</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from my IP address you would think I am in Gilford , England .
At least that 's what all the IP location software I 've used says .
Where I am is far from Gliford</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from my IP address you would think I am in Gilford, England.
At least that's what all the IP location software I've used says.
Where I am is far from Gliford</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450980</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451022</id>
	<title>if I were them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would selectively throttle http://www.broadband.gov/ to 110\% of the nominal bandwidth being paid for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would selectively throttle http : //www.broadband.gov/ to 110 \ % of the nominal bandwidth being paid for : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would selectively throttle http://www.broadband.gov/ to 110\% of the nominal bandwidth being paid for :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451368</id>
	<title>Re:Classic failures</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1268408100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This "test" is typical of government programs.  Expensive, doesn't work right, and ends-up not fulfilling its promises.</p><p>Remember EZpass in 2000?  When I signed-up the government told me it would save time and money.  Instead of $1 for a toll, I paid 90 cents, which saved a lot of cash over a month's time.  Then in 2005 they eliminated the savings, but I kept the EZpass for convenience.  And now in 2010 they want me to PAY $20 more each year than the cash drivers.  I'm getting rid of my EZpass.  It's typical politician doubletalk where they promise "savings" and then eventually end-up costing you MORE not less, than the old cash-based system.</p><p>This FCC test is likely costing a mint, and it clearly doesn't work, and will generate bad results to justify spending billions of dollars.  Plus I suspect even if it did work properly and showed less than 5\% of American don't have broadband via DSL, cable, satellite, cellular, or wifi..... the politicians will still claim it justifies spending billions of OUR dollars in order to buy votes.</p><p>Yes I'm a cynic.  I trust the government about as much as I trust Microsoft or Comcast.  Actually - less.  At least MS or CC can't force their way into my home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This " test " is typical of government programs .
Expensive , does n't work right , and ends-up not fulfilling its promises.Remember EZpass in 2000 ?
When I signed-up the government told me it would save time and money .
Instead of $ 1 for a toll , I paid 90 cents , which saved a lot of cash over a month 's time .
Then in 2005 they eliminated the savings , but I kept the EZpass for convenience .
And now in 2010 they want me to PAY $ 20 more each year than the cash drivers .
I 'm getting rid of my EZpass .
It 's typical politician doubletalk where they promise " savings " and then eventually end-up costing you MORE not less , than the old cash-based system.This FCC test is likely costing a mint , and it clearly does n't work , and will generate bad results to justify spending billions of dollars .
Plus I suspect even if it did work properly and showed less than 5 \ % of American do n't have broadband via DSL , cable , satellite , cellular , or wifi..... the politicians will still claim it justifies spending billions of OUR dollars in order to buy votes.Yes I 'm a cynic .
I trust the government about as much as I trust Microsoft or Comcast .
Actually - less .
At least MS or CC ca n't force their way into my home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This "test" is typical of government programs.
Expensive, doesn't work right, and ends-up not fulfilling its promises.Remember EZpass in 2000?
When I signed-up the government told me it would save time and money.
Instead of $1 for a toll, I paid 90 cents, which saved a lot of cash over a month's time.
Then in 2005 they eliminated the savings, but I kept the EZpass for convenience.
And now in 2010 they want me to PAY $20 more each year than the cash drivers.
I'm getting rid of my EZpass.
It's typical politician doubletalk where they promise "savings" and then eventually end-up costing you MORE not less, than the old cash-based system.This FCC test is likely costing a mint, and it clearly doesn't work, and will generate bad results to justify spending billions of dollars.
Plus I suspect even if it did work properly and showed less than 5\% of American don't have broadband via DSL, cable, satellite, cellular, or wifi..... the politicians will still claim it justifies spending billions of OUR dollars in order to buy votes.Yes I'm a cynic.
I trust the government about as much as I trust Microsoft or Comcast.
Actually - less.
At least MS or CC can't force their way into my home.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451068</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451012</id>
	<title>Don't do it, they'll get to you...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One man tried to drown himself, screaming that his belly was being eaten by snakes. An 11-year-old tried to strangle his grandmother. Another man shouted: "I am a plane", before jumping out of a second-floor window, breaking his legs. He then got up and carried on for 50 yards. Another saw his heart escaping through his feet and begged a doctor to put it back. Many were taken to the local asylum in strait jackets...</p><p>Scientists at Fort Detrick told him that agents had sprayed LSD into the air and also contaminated "local foot products".</p><p>Mr Albarelli said the real "smoking gun" was a White House document sent to members of the Rockefeller Commission formed in 1975 to investigate CIA abuses. It contained the names of a number of French nationals who had been secretly employed by the CIA and made direct reference to the "Pont St. Esprit incident." In its quest to research LSD as an offensive weapon, Mr Albarelli claims, the US army also drugged over 5,700 unwitting American servicemen between 1953 and 1965.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One man tried to drown himself , screaming that his belly was being eaten by snakes .
An 11-year-old tried to strangle his grandmother .
Another man shouted : " I am a plane " , before jumping out of a second-floor window , breaking his legs .
He then got up and carried on for 50 yards .
Another saw his heart escaping through his feet and begged a doctor to put it back .
Many were taken to the local asylum in strait jackets...Scientists at Fort Detrick told him that agents had sprayed LSD into the air and also contaminated " local foot products " .Mr Albarelli said the real " smoking gun " was a White House document sent to members of the Rockefeller Commission formed in 1975 to investigate CIA abuses .
It contained the names of a number of French nationals who had been secretly employed by the CIA and made direct reference to the " Pont St. Esprit incident .
" In its quest to research LSD as an offensive weapon , Mr Albarelli claims , the US army also drugged over 5,700 unwitting American servicemen between 1953 and 1965 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One man tried to drown himself, screaming that his belly was being eaten by snakes.
An 11-year-old tried to strangle his grandmother.
Another man shouted: "I am a plane", before jumping out of a second-floor window, breaking his legs.
He then got up and carried on for 50 yards.
Another saw his heart escaping through his feet and begged a doctor to put it back.
Many were taken to the local asylum in strait jackets...Scientists at Fort Detrick told him that agents had sprayed LSD into the air and also contaminated "local foot products".Mr Albarelli said the real "smoking gun" was a White House document sent to members of the Rockefeller Commission formed in 1975 to investigate CIA abuses.
It contained the names of a number of French nationals who had been secretly employed by the CIA and made direct reference to the "Pont St. Esprit incident.
" In its quest to research LSD as an offensive weapon, Mr Albarelli claims, the US army also drugged over 5,700 unwitting American servicemen between 1953 and 1965.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450972</id>
	<title>The problem with "broadband" in the U.S.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268405760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Broadband in the U.S. (90\% cable modem-based) is held back from reaching speed and latency of next-generation networks like Korea because it was designed as a <i>synchronous</i> network (see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronous\_network" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a> [wikipedia.org]). The telecom monopolies won't upgrade to an asynchronous protocol without huge bribes from the already bankrupt federal government.</p><p>Then there is the problem of Italian influence, and the known fact that Italo-islamic spies have placed cable splitters in all the main telecom hubs of the U.S. and Mexico -- when will Congress address this? I'm not holding my breath waiting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Broadband in the U.S. ( 90 \ % cable modem-based ) is held back from reaching speed and latency of next-generation networks like Korea because it was designed as a synchronous network ( see Wikipedia [ wikipedia.org ] ) .
The telecom monopolies wo n't upgrade to an asynchronous protocol without huge bribes from the already bankrupt federal government.Then there is the problem of Italian influence , and the known fact that Italo-islamic spies have placed cable splitters in all the main telecom hubs of the U.S. and Mexico -- when will Congress address this ?
I 'm not holding my breath waiting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Broadband in the U.S. (90\% cable modem-based) is held back from reaching speed and latency of next-generation networks like Korea because it was designed as a synchronous network (see Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]).
The telecom monopolies won't upgrade to an asynchronous protocol without huge bribes from the already bankrupt federal government.Then there is the problem of Italian influence, and the known fact that Italo-islamic spies have placed cable splitters in all the main telecom hubs of the U.S. and Mexico -- when will Congress address this?
I'm not holding my breath waiting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31456224</id>
	<title>Re:Windows firewall</title>
	<author>Pharmboy</author>
	<datestamp>1268387160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You (and others) seemed to have taken my words a bit out of context.  I ran the program, then reblocked the ports.  I'm not paranoid about the 'gubmint being out to get me', but I think anyone with any sense of history knows that it is always best to be a bit leery when it comes to governments, which are typically run by people who enjoy power.  This is the same government who approved the DCMA, software patents, and the Patriot Act.  My sense of "liberty" is obviously not the same as most elected politicians.</p><p>If all else fails, I always remember that everything that Hitler did was legal.  I'm not afraid of the U.S. government, but I'm smart enough to always be skeptical of the motives of many who are literally enjoying power.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You ( and others ) seemed to have taken my words a bit out of context .
I ran the program , then reblocked the ports .
I 'm not paranoid about the 'gubmint being out to get me ' , but I think anyone with any sense of history knows that it is always best to be a bit leery when it comes to governments , which are typically run by people who enjoy power .
This is the same government who approved the DCMA , software patents , and the Patriot Act .
My sense of " liberty " is obviously not the same as most elected politicians.If all else fails , I always remember that everything that Hitler did was legal .
I 'm not afraid of the U.S. government , but I 'm smart enough to always be skeptical of the motives of many who are literally enjoying power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You (and others) seemed to have taken my words a bit out of context.
I ran the program, then reblocked the ports.
I'm not paranoid about the 'gubmint being out to get me', but I think anyone with any sense of history knows that it is always best to be a bit leery when it comes to governments, which are typically run by people who enjoy power.
This is the same government who approved the DCMA, software patents, and the Patriot Act.
My sense of "liberty" is obviously not the same as most elected politicians.If all else fails, I always remember that everything that Hitler did was legal.
I'm not afraid of the U.S. government, but I'm smart enough to always be skeptical of the motives of many who are literally enjoying power.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451536</id>
	<title>And illogical</title>
	<author>mdsolar</author>
	<datestamp>1268408940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The frist test I got said it was Ookla then I could try M-Lab but at the end of the supposed M-Lab test the results page said it was Ookla and I could now try M-Lab.  Also needed to hit the "start test" button twice in each case.  Still some bugs to work out before the program really starts up in 5 days.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The frist test I got said it was Ookla then I could try M-Lab but at the end of the supposed M-Lab test the results page said it was Ookla and I could now try M-Lab .
Also needed to hit the " start test " button twice in each case .
Still some bugs to work out before the program really starts up in 5 days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The frist test I got said it was Ookla then I could try M-Lab but at the end of the supposed M-Lab test the results page said it was Ookla and I could now try M-Lab.
Also needed to hit the "start test" button twice in each case.
Still some bugs to work out before the program really starts up in 5 days.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31451070</id>
	<title>One of the more accurate tests I've run</title>
	<author>garcia</author>
	<datestamp>1268406300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've tried the numerous broadband speed testers out there. Depending on where they are and who they are I have received results as low as 1/5th my actual bandwidth to twice as much. Sometimes I wondered if they were really trying at all. I generally judge my downstream on an average of what I get when I do an aptitude update ; aptitude upgrade as it seems to be inline with my actual advertised speeds. As far as downstream, I use my machine via SSH daily and the speeds I get through that. Pretty consistent.</p><p>This test was pretty much dead on accurate. I was 9993/975 (I have 10/1). The test was painless, easy, and the only thing I didn't particularly care for was the fact that they wanted your exact address. Wouldn't a simple portion of your address work well enough (e.g. 1xx Main St 90210) instead of the entire thing? Even if they were looking to aggregate the information by Zip+4 that should be enough, right? Who needs it any lower than that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've tried the numerous broadband speed testers out there .
Depending on where they are and who they are I have received results as low as 1/5th my actual bandwidth to twice as much .
Sometimes I wondered if they were really trying at all .
I generally judge my downstream on an average of what I get when I do an aptitude update ; aptitude upgrade as it seems to be inline with my actual advertised speeds .
As far as downstream , I use my machine via SSH daily and the speeds I get through that .
Pretty consistent.This test was pretty much dead on accurate .
I was 9993/975 ( I have 10/1 ) .
The test was painless , easy , and the only thing I did n't particularly care for was the fact that they wanted your exact address .
Would n't a simple portion of your address work well enough ( e.g .
1xx Main St 90210 ) instead of the entire thing ?
Even if they were looking to aggregate the information by Zip + 4 that should be enough , right ?
Who needs it any lower than that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've tried the numerous broadband speed testers out there.
Depending on where they are and who they are I have received results as low as 1/5th my actual bandwidth to twice as much.
Sometimes I wondered if they were really trying at all.
I generally judge my downstream on an average of what I get when I do an aptitude update ; aptitude upgrade as it seems to be inline with my actual advertised speeds.
As far as downstream, I use my machine via SSH daily and the speeds I get through that.
Pretty consistent.This test was pretty much dead on accurate.
I was 9993/975 (I have 10/1).
The test was painless, easy, and the only thing I didn't particularly care for was the fact that they wanted your exact address.
Wouldn't a simple portion of your address work well enough (e.g.
1xx Main St 90210) instead of the entire thing?
Even if they were looking to aggregate the information by Zip+4 that should be enough, right?
Who needs it any lower than that?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31453684</id>
	<title>Not slashdotted but DNSSEC fail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268419260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those of you who perform DNSSEC validation and are wondering why the site is unreachable: the FCC has failed to resign their zone, the signatures on the NS records for broadband.gov and the A record for www.broadband.gov have expired:</p><p>www.broadband.gov.    86400    IN    A    4.21.126.148<br>www.broadband.gov.    86400    IN    RRSIG    A 7 3 86400 20100309192609 20091209192609 46640 broadband.gov. lfH68SmOZ....</p><p>Note the expiry time: March 9th 2010, 19:26:09</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those of you who perform DNSSEC validation and are wondering why the site is unreachable : the FCC has failed to resign their zone , the signatures on the NS records for broadband.gov and the A record for www.broadband.gov have expired : www.broadband.gov .
86400 IN A 4.21.126.148www.broadband.gov .
86400 IN RRSIG A 7 3 86400 20100309192609 20091209192609 46640 broadband.gov .
lfH68SmOZ....Note the expiry time : March 9th 2010 , 19 : 26 : 09</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those of you who perform DNSSEC validation and are wondering why the site is unreachable: the FCC has failed to resign their zone, the signatures on the NS records for broadband.gov and the A record for www.broadband.gov have expired:www.broadband.gov.
86400    IN    A    4.21.126.148www.broadband.gov.
86400    IN    RRSIG    A 7 3 86400 20100309192609 20091209192609 46640 broadband.gov.
lfH68SmOZ....Note the expiry time: March 9th 2010, 19:26:09</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_137217.31450986</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268405820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I did it from work, but said I was doing it from home.  Further, I entered an address of a home (not mine) in a rural area in my state that is currently trying to get federal stimulus money because they have no broadband.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did it from work , but said I was doing it from home .
Further , I entered an address of a home ( not mine ) in a rural area in my state that is currently trying to get federal stimulus money because they have no broadband .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did it from work, but said I was doing it from home.
Further, I entered an address of a home (not mine) in a rural area in my state that is currently trying to get federal stimulus money because they have no broadband.</sentencetext>
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