<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_09_197226</id>
	<title>Cisco Introduces a 322 Tbit/sec. Router</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1268163900000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>CWmike writes <i>"Today Cisco Systems introduced its next-generation Internet core router, the CRS-3, with about three times the capacity of its current platform. 'The Internet will scale faster than any of us anticipate,' Cisco's John Chambers said while announcing the product. At full scale, the <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9168058/Cisco\_unveils\_next\_Internet\_core\_router">CRS-3 has a capacity of 322Tbit/sec.</a>, roughly three times that of the CRS-1, introduced in 2004. It also has more than 12 times the capacity of its nearest competitor, Chambers said. The CRS-3 will help the Internet evolve from a messaging to an entertainment and media platform, with video emerging as the 'killer app,' Chambers said. Using a CRS-3, every person in China, which has a population just over 1.3 billion, could participate in a video phone call at the same time. (Or you could pump nearly one Library of Congress per second through the device, or give everyone in San Fransisco a 1Gbps internet connection.) AT&amp;T said it has been using the CRS-3 to test 100Gbit/sec. data links in tests on a commercial fiber route in Florida and Louisiana."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>CWmike writes " Today Cisco Systems introduced its next-generation Internet core router , the CRS-3 , with about three times the capacity of its current platform .
'The Internet will scale faster than any of us anticipate, ' Cisco 's John Chambers said while announcing the product .
At full scale , the CRS-3 has a capacity of 322Tbit/sec. , roughly three times that of the CRS-1 , introduced in 2004 .
It also has more than 12 times the capacity of its nearest competitor , Chambers said .
The CRS-3 will help the Internet evolve from a messaging to an entertainment and media platform , with video emerging as the 'killer app, ' Chambers said .
Using a CRS-3 , every person in China , which has a population just over 1.3 billion , could participate in a video phone call at the same time .
( Or you could pump nearly one Library of Congress per second through the device , or give everyone in San Fransisco a 1Gbps internet connection .
) AT&amp;T said it has been using the CRS-3 to test 100Gbit/sec .
data links in tests on a commercial fiber route in Florida and Louisiana .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CWmike writes "Today Cisco Systems introduced its next-generation Internet core router, the CRS-3, with about three times the capacity of its current platform.
'The Internet will scale faster than any of us anticipate,' Cisco's John Chambers said while announcing the product.
At full scale, the CRS-3 has a capacity of 322Tbit/sec., roughly three times that of the CRS-1, introduced in 2004.
It also has more than 12 times the capacity of its nearest competitor, Chambers said.
The CRS-3 will help the Internet evolve from a messaging to an entertainment and media platform, with video emerging as the 'killer app,' Chambers said.
Using a CRS-3, every person in China, which has a population just over 1.3 billion, could participate in a video phone call at the same time.
(Or you could pump nearly one Library of Congress per second through the device, or give everyone in San Fransisco a 1Gbps internet connection.
) AT&amp;T said it has been using the CRS-3 to test 100Gbit/sec.
data links in tests on a commercial fiber route in Florida and Louisiana.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418542</id>
	<title>Internet and Internet 2 is smoke in the US of A</title>
	<author>GPLDAN</author>
	<datestamp>1268126760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>In Japan, it's pretty easy even in rural areas like Kyoto to order a 100Mb connection and get it at a reasonable rate.<br> <br>

In the States, we're playing on DSL lines that have 2Mb down, when they train up right (which they only do maybe 50\% of the time) and other people are using Cable (Charter, Comlast, etc) and maybe that is 5 or maybe 10Mb down. If you are very lucky (and have the coin) maybe you are on AT&amp;T uVerse or Verizon FIOS, and they could give you 100Mb, but you'd pay through the nose for it, and it would be asymmetrical. Most likely (the UVerse people I know) you are getting 10 down. <br> <br>
Now here comes Johnny Chambers saying this beast in the core could give GIG (1000Mb/s) to every person in San Francisco. Johnny's comb over is going to his brain. Just because a TR2N sized CRS-2 with enough horsepower to make the TRON MCP break down and cry comes into the provider core doesn't mean SHIT to you, the end user. Here in the states we won't see Japanese style connectivity for another 10 years. We're being left in the fucking stone age, because they money isn't there to build out past the core.<br> <br>
It pisses me off when Johnny tries to hype and pimp that stock price up, and they use multi-threading and distributed fabrics to get that speed, but we all know it's moving at snail's pace, the industry is consolidating, and unless you live where fiber is, forget it. And save me the "USA is so much bigger than Japan" argument, too. We don't see these speeds in our major cities, like NYC or Atlanta, SF or Chicago. Nothing even close. the SONET rings in these cities are still selling OC multiples at insane prices. It's still fucking 1996 in America.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Japan , it 's pretty easy even in rural areas like Kyoto to order a 100Mb connection and get it at a reasonable rate .
In the States , we 're playing on DSL lines that have 2Mb down , when they train up right ( which they only do maybe 50 \ % of the time ) and other people are using Cable ( Charter , Comlast , etc ) and maybe that is 5 or maybe 10Mb down .
If you are very lucky ( and have the coin ) maybe you are on AT&amp;T uVerse or Verizon FIOS , and they could give you 100Mb , but you 'd pay through the nose for it , and it would be asymmetrical .
Most likely ( the UVerse people I know ) you are getting 10 down .
Now here comes Johnny Chambers saying this beast in the core could give GIG ( 1000Mb/s ) to every person in San Francisco .
Johnny 's comb over is going to his brain .
Just because a TR2N sized CRS-2 with enough horsepower to make the TRON MCP break down and cry comes into the provider core does n't mean SHIT to you , the end user .
Here in the states we wo n't see Japanese style connectivity for another 10 years .
We 're being left in the fucking stone age , because they money is n't there to build out past the core .
It pisses me off when Johnny tries to hype and pimp that stock price up , and they use multi-threading and distributed fabrics to get that speed , but we all know it 's moving at snail 's pace , the industry is consolidating , and unless you live where fiber is , forget it .
And save me the " USA is so much bigger than Japan " argument , too .
We do n't see these speeds in our major cities , like NYC or Atlanta , SF or Chicago .
Nothing even close .
the SONET rings in these cities are still selling OC multiples at insane prices .
It 's still fucking 1996 in America .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Japan, it's pretty easy even in rural areas like Kyoto to order a 100Mb connection and get it at a reasonable rate.
In the States, we're playing on DSL lines that have 2Mb down, when they train up right (which they only do maybe 50\% of the time) and other people are using Cable (Charter, Comlast, etc) and maybe that is 5 or maybe 10Mb down.
If you are very lucky (and have the coin) maybe you are on AT&amp;T uVerse or Verizon FIOS, and they could give you 100Mb, but you'd pay through the nose for it, and it would be asymmetrical.
Most likely (the UVerse people I know) you are getting 10 down.
Now here comes Johnny Chambers saying this beast in the core could give GIG (1000Mb/s) to every person in San Francisco.
Johnny's comb over is going to his brain.
Just because a TR2N sized CRS-2 with enough horsepower to make the TRON MCP break down and cry comes into the provider core doesn't mean SHIT to you, the end user.
Here in the states we won't see Japanese style connectivity for another 10 years.
We're being left in the fucking stone age, because they money isn't there to build out past the core.
It pisses me off when Johnny tries to hype and pimp that stock price up, and they use multi-threading and distributed fabrics to get that speed, but we all know it's moving at snail's pace, the industry is consolidating, and unless you live where fiber is, forget it.
And save me the "USA is so much bigger than Japan" argument, too.
We don't see these speeds in our major cities, like NYC or Atlanta, SF or Chicago.
Nothing even close.
the SONET rings in these cities are still selling OC multiples at insane prices.
It's still fucking 1996 in America.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419544</id>
	<title>Re:It runs QNX</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yah QNX is really nice, drivers are running in used space so you can queue up redundant drivers against hardware, should a driver crash the driver in waiting can start up and take over even before the next packet comes. Kernel level instrumentation, no need to restart OS to restart drivers, lots of benefits. Anyway Ciscos have their own version of QNX 6 they have tailored for themselves..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yah QNX is really nice , drivers are running in used space so you can queue up redundant drivers against hardware , should a driver crash the driver in waiting can start up and take over even before the next packet comes .
Kernel level instrumentation , no need to restart OS to restart drivers , lots of benefits .
Anyway Ciscos have their own version of QNX 6 they have tailored for themselves. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yah QNX is really nice, drivers are running in used space so you can queue up redundant drivers against hardware, should a driver crash the driver in waiting can start up and take over even before the next packet comes.
Kernel level instrumentation, no need to restart OS to restart drivers, lots of benefits.
Anyway Ciscos have their own version of QNX 6 they have tailored for themselves..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418484</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419718</id>
	<title>Re:Cables?</title>
	<author>zerospeaks</author>
	<datestamp>1268131740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is no such thing as a limit of bandwidth on a fiber optic line.
It is theoretically infinite.

If you run out of bandwidth then you start broadcasting another signal down the exact same line.
Think of using a flashlight to send morse code. Then you need to send it faster, so you have a second flashlight that is a different color sending at the same time. Twice the information.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no such thing as a limit of bandwidth on a fiber optic line .
It is theoretically infinite .
If you run out of bandwidth then you start broadcasting another signal down the exact same line .
Think of using a flashlight to send morse code .
Then you need to send it faster , so you have a second flashlight that is a different color sending at the same time .
Twice the information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no such thing as a limit of bandwidth on a fiber optic line.
It is theoretically infinite.
If you run out of bandwidth then you start broadcasting another signal down the exact same line.
Think of using a flashlight to send morse code.
Then you need to send it faster, so you have a second flashlight that is a different color sending at the same time.
Twice the information.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418234</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268125500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I take it that $90K is for an empty shell and you must buy plug-in modules to actually accomplish anything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I take it that $ 90K is for an empty shell and you must buy plug-in modules to actually accomplish anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I take it that $90K is for an empty shell and you must buy plug-in modules to actually accomplish anything.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423598</id>
	<title>Re:It runs QNX</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268251860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Holy utter nonsense, Batman!</p><p>-A Cisco ASIC Developer</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Holy utter nonsense , Batman ! -A Cisco ASIC Developer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Holy utter nonsense, Batman!-A Cisco ASIC Developer</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418484</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418178</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268125260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Strangely, at $90,000 a pop, this strikes me as rather cheap. I wonder if that's a "rate limited" model so that you have to pay big bux more in order to get the full capacity?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Strangely , at $ 90,000 a pop , this strikes me as rather cheap .
I wonder if that 's a " rate limited " model so that you have to pay big bux more in order to get the full capacity ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strangely, at $90,000 a pop, this strikes me as rather cheap.
I wonder if that's a "rate limited" model so that you have to pay big bux more in order to get the full capacity?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418290</id>
	<title>My initial response to this was...</title>
	<author>nikomo</author>
	<datestamp>1268125740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>to fap furiously.

Do want.</htmltext>
<tokenext>to fap furiously .
Do want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to fap furiously.
Do want.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418166</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Congresses per second</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268125200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Video Calls per Chinese Person...I'm going with that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Video Calls per Chinese Person...I 'm going with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Video Calls per Chinese Person...I'm going with that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418140</id>
	<title>Is this the big announcement?</title>
	<author>snowraver1</author>
	<datestamp>1268168280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ars had a story yesterday about Cisco:

<a href="http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/03/cisco-internet-to-change-forever-tuesday-place-your-bets.ars" title="arstechnica.com">Cisco: Internet to change forever Tuesday (place your bets!)</a> [arstechnica.com] <br> <br>Is this the thing that will change the internet??</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ars had a story yesterday about Cisco : Cisco : Internet to change forever Tuesday ( place your bets !
) [ arstechnica.com ] Is this the thing that will change the internet ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ars had a story yesterday about Cisco:

Cisco: Internet to change forever Tuesday (place your bets!
) [arstechnica.com]  Is this the thing that will change the internet?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423660</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Congresses per second</title>
	<author>jesset77</author>
	<datestamp>1268252940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alt+227 Alt+105</p><p>Alt+58 Alt+80</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alt + 227 Alt + 105Alt + 58 Alt + 80</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alt+227 Alt+105Alt+58 Alt+80</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418166</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419498</id>
	<title>Market?</title>
	<author>frank\_adrian314159</author>
	<datestamp>1268130780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Using a CRS-3, every person in China, which has a population just over 1.3 billion, could participate in a video phone call at the same time. (Or you could pump nearly one Library of Congress per second through the device, or give everyone in San Fransisco [their own private] 1Gbps internet connection.)</i> </p><p>So that means we'll need maybe a thousand of these things to pipe the whole world's bandwidth?  Doesn't seem like much of a market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Using a CRS-3 , every person in China , which has a population just over 1.3 billion , could participate in a video phone call at the same time .
( Or you could pump nearly one Library of Congress per second through the device , or give everyone in San Fransisco [ their own private ] 1Gbps internet connection .
) So that means we 'll need maybe a thousand of these things to pipe the whole world 's bandwidth ?
Does n't seem like much of a market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using a CRS-3, every person in China, which has a population just over 1.3 billion, could participate in a video phone call at the same time.
(Or you could pump nearly one Library of Congress per second through the device, or give everyone in San Fransisco [their own private] 1Gbps internet connection.
) So that means we'll need maybe a thousand of these things to pipe the whole world's bandwidth?
Doesn't seem like much of a market.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418660</id>
	<title>Re:jaded, who care?</title>
	<author>OverlordQ</author>
	<datestamp>1268127300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>jaded, who care?</i></p><p>The backbones?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>jaded , who care ? The backbones ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>jaded, who care?The backbones?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418094</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420748</id>
	<title>Largest router?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268136720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>322TBit in theory is very good and all but does anyone knows what is the largest deployed router?</p><p>the only one I could found was:</p><p><a href="http://www.huawei.com/news/view.do?id=10930&amp;cid=42" title="huawei.com">http://www.huawei.com/news/view.do?id=10930&amp;cid=42</a> [huawei.com]</p><p>beside, who would want to agregate so much traffic in one place? (beside the NSA)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>322TBit in theory is very good and all but does anyone knows what is the largest deployed router ? the only one I could found was : http : //www.huawei.com/news/view.do ? id = 10930&amp;cid = 42 [ huawei.com ] beside , who would want to agregate so much traffic in one place ?
( beside the NSA )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>322TBit in theory is very good and all but does anyone knows what is the largest deployed router?the only one I could found was:http://www.huawei.com/news/view.do?id=10930&amp;cid=42 [huawei.com]beside, who would want to agregate so much traffic in one place?
(beside the NSA)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31513562</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268857140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>um...if this thing is so futuristic why do the pics have XENPAK modules instead of X2s?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>um...if this thing is so futuristic why do the pics have XENPAK modules instead of X2s ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>um...if this thing is so futuristic why do the pics have XENPAK modules instead of X2s?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31422752</id>
	<title>Re:When do we consumers benefit?</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1268153100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>10/1 cable here for $35 per month. That's fast enough to stream raw DVD files (max bitrate of 9800kbps) or decent quality 720p content.</htmltext>
<tokenext>10/1 cable here for $ 35 per month .
That 's fast enough to stream raw DVD files ( max bitrate of 9800kbps ) or decent quality 720p content .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>10/1 cable here for $35 per month.
That's fast enough to stream raw DVD files (max bitrate of 9800kbps) or decent quality 720p content.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418270</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418510</id>
	<title>Imagine</title>
	<author>sagematt</author>
	<datestamp>1268126580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imagine running a Beowulf cluster of these... each one running Linux!</p><p>...Wait, does it run Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine running a Beowulf cluster of these... each one running Linux ! ...Wait , does it run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine running a Beowulf cluster of these... each one running Linux!...Wait, does it run Linux?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420848</id>
	<title>Re:Awesome router</title>
	<author>ChiRaven</author>
	<datestamp>1268137320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still want to know if I can overclock the darned thing for gaming.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still want to know if I can overclock the darned thing for gaming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still want to know if I can overclock the darned thing for gaming.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417952</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418124</id>
	<title>322 tb/s Without or Without...</title>
	<author>hackus</author>
	<datestamp>1268168220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CIA/NSA software loaded to do deep packet inspection?</p><p>-Hack</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CIA/NSA software loaded to do deep packet inspection ? -Hack</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CIA/NSA software loaded to do deep packet inspection?-Hack</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420312</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268134560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm assuming for 90k you get a chassis full of empty slots where the line cards you buy separatly would go.</p><p>3watts per gbit<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. at 322tbit<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. lets see 322tbits is..<br>329728 gbits..</p><p>times three is 989,184 or 989kw/hr or at 6 cents per KW hour $60/hr in electricity.. per month that works out to $42,724.80.. I think 6 cents is fair..in many places its liable to be much higher... but what the heck lets call it green anyway.</p><p>I have an HP gigabit switch with no fan it has a 48gbit backplane and maximum power rating of 24 watts.</p><p>So lets take our CRS-3's 329728 gbps capacity..</p><p>329728 / 48 = 6869 HP switches @ 24 watts ea = 164,856 or 164kw/h</p><p>989kw/164kw = 6 times less power effecient than 6869 separate switches.</p><p>I know this is a completely unfair comparision (not sure which way...I mean 6869 separate power transformers has got to weigh in somewhere) I strongly suspect they are pushing the power curve highly into the performance area at the expense of power effeciency... but like everyone else lets just claim our product is green.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm assuming for 90k you get a chassis full of empty slots where the line cards you buy separatly would go.3watts per gbit .. at 322tbit .. lets see 322tbits is..329728 gbits..times three is 989,184 or 989kw/hr or at 6 cents per KW hour $ 60/hr in electricity.. per month that works out to $ 42,724.80.. I think 6 cents is fair..in many places its liable to be much higher... but what the heck lets call it green anyway.I have an HP gigabit switch with no fan it has a 48gbit backplane and maximum power rating of 24 watts.So lets take our CRS-3 's 329728 gbps capacity..329728 / 48 = 6869 HP switches @ 24 watts ea = 164,856 or 164kw/h989kw/164kw = 6 times less power effecient than 6869 separate switches.I know this is a completely unfair comparision ( not sure which way...I mean 6869 separate power transformers has got to weigh in somewhere ) I strongly suspect they are pushing the power curve highly into the performance area at the expense of power effeciency... but like everyone else lets just claim our product is green .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm assuming for 90k you get a chassis full of empty slots where the line cards you buy separatly would go.3watts per gbit .. at 322tbit .. lets see 322tbits is..329728 gbits..times three is 989,184 or 989kw/hr or at 6 cents per KW hour $60/hr in electricity.. per month that works out to $42,724.80.. I think 6 cents is fair..in many places its liable to be much higher... but what the heck lets call it green anyway.I have an HP gigabit switch with no fan it has a 48gbit backplane and maximum power rating of 24 watts.So lets take our CRS-3's 329728 gbps capacity..329728 / 48 = 6869 HP switches @ 24 watts ea = 164,856 or 164kw/h989kw/164kw = 6 times less power effecient than 6869 separate switches.I know this is a completely unfair comparision (not sure which way...I mean 6869 separate power transformers has got to weigh in somewhere) I strongly suspect they are pushing the power curve highly into the performance area at the expense of power effeciency... but like everyone else lets just claim our product is green.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418600</id>
	<title>Humanitarian award to Cisco</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268127000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Coupled with OLPM, imagine all the porn-starved nations this technology could feed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Coupled with OLPM , imagine all the porn-starved nations this technology could feed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coupled with OLPM, imagine all the porn-starved nations this technology could feed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418056</id>
	<title>Can you imagine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268168040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>networking a Beowulf cluster with these?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>networking a Beowulf cluster with these ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>networking a Beowulf cluster with these?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418308</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268125860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's absolutely outrageous! I'll just stick with my WRT54G, thank you very much, and I recommend others do the same!</p><p>One word of warning to my fellow backbone operators, though; before you bid on a cheap WRT54G you find on eBay, make sure it's not one of the newer versions with reduced flash capacity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's absolutely outrageous !
I 'll just stick with my WRT54G , thank you very much , and I recommend others do the same ! One word of warning to my fellow backbone operators , though ; before you bid on a cheap WRT54G you find on eBay , make sure it 's not one of the newer versions with reduced flash capacity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's absolutely outrageous!
I'll just stick with my WRT54G, thank you very much, and I recommend others do the same!One word of warning to my fellow backbone operators, though; before you bid on a cheap WRT54G you find on eBay, make sure it's not one of the newer versions with reduced flash capacity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417990</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31422424</id>
	<title>It makes</title>
	<author>bugs2squash</author>
	<datestamp>1268150160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The CRS-1 look ahead of its time; 3x speed increase over  6 years. And is that really keeping up with internet growth ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The CRS-1 look ahead of its time ; 3x speed increase over 6 years .
And is that really keeping up with internet growth ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The CRS-1 look ahead of its time; 3x speed increase over  6 years.
And is that really keeping up with internet growth ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419854</id>
	<title>Re:It runs QNX</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268132340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FPGAs????</p><p>I think you'd better go back to your research.</p><p>Ditto for the OS...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FPGAs ? ? ?
? I think you 'd better go back to your research.Ditto for the OS.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FPGAs???
?I think you'd better go back to your research.Ditto for the OS...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418484</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420172</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268133960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Way to violate the Flickr Community Guidelines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Way to violate the Flickr Community Guidelines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Way to violate the Flickr Community Guidelines.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418520</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418372</id>
	<title>Too small a jump for a 6 years -- red flags!</title>
	<author>wonkavader</author>
	<datestamp>1268126040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"At full scale, the CRS-3 has a capacity of 322Tbit/sec., roughly three times that of the CRS-1, which was introduced in 2004."</p><p>That was six years ago and we're only tripling the speed?  Is it cheaper?  Smaller?</p><p>Moore's law (which doesn't work in every way, but it certainly works for the computing processors in this thing) would suggest that this thing has a lot more CPU power than the CRS-1.  (In six years we'd expect somewhere between 8 and 32 times the oomph.)  And yet they only encumbered it with three times the bandwidth.</p><p>I'm worried that a lot more processor power is going into filtering.  Cisco is one of the big anti-network neutrality advocates.  They want to sell the machines to impose the rules.</p><p>If this machine isn't lower power or smaller or cheaper or just built incompetently, then the real story here isn't it's bandwidth -- it's its power for adjusting traffic for increased profits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" At full scale , the CRS-3 has a capacity of 322Tbit/sec. , roughly three times that of the CRS-1 , which was introduced in 2004 .
" That was six years ago and we 're only tripling the speed ?
Is it cheaper ?
Smaller ? Moore 's law ( which does n't work in every way , but it certainly works for the computing processors in this thing ) would suggest that this thing has a lot more CPU power than the CRS-1 .
( In six years we 'd expect somewhere between 8 and 32 times the oomph .
) And yet they only encumbered it with three times the bandwidth.I 'm worried that a lot more processor power is going into filtering .
Cisco is one of the big anti-network neutrality advocates .
They want to sell the machines to impose the rules.If this machine is n't lower power or smaller or cheaper or just built incompetently , then the real story here is n't it 's bandwidth -- it 's its power for adjusting traffic for increased profits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"At full scale, the CRS-3 has a capacity of 322Tbit/sec., roughly three times that of the CRS-1, which was introduced in 2004.
"That was six years ago and we're only tripling the speed?
Is it cheaper?
Smaller?Moore's law (which doesn't work in every way, but it certainly works for the computing processors in this thing) would suggest that this thing has a lot more CPU power than the CRS-1.
(In six years we'd expect somewhere between 8 and 32 times the oomph.
)  And yet they only encumbered it with three times the bandwidth.I'm worried that a lot more processor power is going into filtering.
Cisco is one of the big anti-network neutrality advocates.
They want to sell the machines to impose the rules.If this machine isn't lower power or smaller or cheaper or just built incompetently, then the real story here isn't it's bandwidth -- it's its power for adjusting traffic for increased profits.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418232</id>
	<title>Wow!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268125500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is getting pretty close to gaming router territory.</p><p>Me thinks a linksys re-branding could be in the CRS-3's future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is getting pretty close to gaming router territory.Me thinks a linksys re-branding could be in the CRS-3 's future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is getting pretty close to gaming router territory.Me thinks a linksys re-branding could be in the CRS-3's future.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417990</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419048</id>
	<title>Heat dissipation?</title>
	<author>Dilligent</author>
	<datestamp>1268128920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just to recap.. the video on their website states it's just below 3W per Gbit.<br>They actually put up a photo here: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cisco\_pics/4406738473" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/cisco\_pics/4406738473</a> [flickr.com]</p><p>Now... if i do the maths, that turns out to be 322000 Gbit * 3 = 966000W.<br>It strikes me as not very easy to handle from a heat dissipation point of view.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just to recap.. the video on their website states it 's just below 3W per Gbit.They actually put up a photo here : http : //www.flickr.com/photos/cisco \ _pics/4406738473 [ flickr.com ] Now... if i do the maths , that turns out to be 322000 Gbit * 3 = 966000W.It strikes me as not very easy to handle from a heat dissipation point of view .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just to recap.. the video on their website states it's just below 3W per Gbit.They actually put up a photo here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cisco\_pics/4406738473 [flickr.com]Now... if i do the maths, that turns out to be 322000 Gbit * 3 = 966000W.It strikes me as not very easy to handle from a heat dissipation point of view.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420122</id>
	<title>they still charge me an arm and a leg for 12MBit.</title>
	<author>DragonTHC</author>
	<datestamp>1268133780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a load of horseshit.</p><p>They have this technology and I'm still being charged as if 12Mbps is a bleeding edge luxury.</p><p>Fuck you ISP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a load of horseshit.They have this technology and I 'm still being charged as if 12Mbps is a bleeding edge luxury.Fuck you ISP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a load of horseshit.They have this technology and I'm still being charged as if 12Mbps is a bleeding edge luxury.Fuck you ISP.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31421604</id>
	<title>Re:You're Kidding me, right?</title>
	<author>sonicmerlin</author>
	<datestamp>1268142180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cisco announced shortly after Google's 1 gbit fiber initiative that they had an announcement to make of their own that would "influence everyone", including "governments".  Since then some people have waited with baited breath.  Predictably Cisco let everyone down.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cisco announced shortly after Google 's 1 gbit fiber initiative that they had an announcement to make of their own that would " influence everyone " , including " governments " .
Since then some people have waited with baited breath .
Predictably Cisco let everyone down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cisco announced shortly after Google's 1 gbit fiber initiative that they had an announcement to make of their own that would "influence everyone", including "governments".
Since then some people have waited with baited breath.
Predictably Cisco let everyone down.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418612</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31427978</id>
	<title>Re:Will it run DDWRT or Tomato?</title>
	<author>mjwalshe</author>
	<datestamp>1268244720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>no we are very decisive that they are SUBS!</htmltext>
<tokenext>no we are very decisive that they are SUBS !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no we are very decisive that they are SUBS!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419096</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418688</id>
	<title>Re:Will it run DDWRT or Tomato?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268127360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, because idiots think their linux nat appliances are routers just because they use them in an 'office', and those of us who've worked in telecom laugh at them decisively.</p><p>Term office used in quotes because an office of under a 100 people is a joke, and you are a wannabe sysadmin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , because idiots think their linux nat appliances are routers just because they use them in an 'office ' , and those of us who 've worked in telecom laugh at them decisively.Term office used in quotes because an office of under a 100 people is a joke , and you are a wannabe sysadmin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, because idiots think their linux nat appliances are routers just because they use them in an 'office', and those of us who've worked in telecom laugh at them decisively.Term office used in quotes because an office of under a 100 people is a joke, and you are a wannabe sysadmin.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417942</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418094</id>
	<title>jaded, who care?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268168160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Between terrible last mile infrastructure and ISP throttling I can't help but sarcastically comment big freaking deal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Between terrible last mile infrastructure and ISP throttling I ca n't help but sarcastically comment big freaking deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Between terrible last mile infrastructure and ISP throttling I can't help but sarcastically comment big freaking deal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418080</id>
	<title>Fast, fast, fast!</title>
	<author>Archaemic</author>
	<datestamp>1268168100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd make a joke about how the internet can now handle the flow of porn through it, but I'm sure that with one of these routers, I've already been beaten to the punch!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd make a joke about how the internet can now handle the flow of porn through it , but I 'm sure that with one of these routers , I 've already been beaten to the punch !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd make a joke about how the internet can now handle the flow of porn through it, but I'm sure that with one of these routers, I've already been beaten to the punch!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417998</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Congresses per second</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1268167860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The important question is:  LC/s, lc/s, or LCS?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The important question is : LC/s , lc/s , or LCS ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The important question is:  LC/s, lc/s, or LCS?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417948</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423680</id>
	<title>Re:Internet and Internet 2 is smoke in the US of A</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268253240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;rural areas like Kyoto</p><p>How exactly is Kyoto a "rural area"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; rural areas like KyotoHow exactly is Kyoto a " rural area " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;rural areas like KyotoHow exactly is Kyoto a "rural area"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418542</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419768</id>
	<title>Faster than any of us anticipate</title>
	<author>Michael Woodhams</author>
	<datestamp>1268131980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A very slight rewording:</p><p>'The Internet will scale faster than any of us anticipate,' anticipates Cisco's John Chambers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A very slight rewording : 'The Internet will scale faster than any of us anticipate, ' anticipates Cisco 's John Chambers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A very slight rewording:'The Internet will scale faster than any of us anticipate,' anticipates Cisco's John Chambers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31512744</id>
	<title>Re:Will it run DDWRT or Tomato?</title>
	<author>blueskies</author>
	<datestamp>1268854260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Term office used in quotes because an office of under a 100 people is a joke, and you are a wannabe sysadmin.</p></div></blockquote><p>I smell a MSCE, windows "administrator."</p><p>If you measure you network solely based on how many people you support, you are a help desk monkey.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Term office used in quotes because an office of under a 100 people is a joke , and you are a wannabe sysadmin.I smell a MSCE , windows " administrator .
" If you measure you network solely based on how many people you support , you are a help desk monkey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Term office used in quotes because an office of under a 100 people is a joke, and you are a wannabe sysadmin.I smell a MSCE, windows "administrator.
"If you measure you network solely based on how many people you support, you are a help desk monkey.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418688</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418520</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>colourmyeyes</author>
	<datestamp>1268126640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2680/4406738473\_f7949d8a7f\_o.jpg" title="flickr.com">http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2680/4406738473\_f7949d8a7f\_o.jpg</a> [flickr.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //farm3.static.flickr.com/2680/4406738473 \ _f7949d8a7f \ _o.jpg [ flickr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2680/4406738473\_f7949d8a7f\_o.jpg [flickr.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418222</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418270</id>
	<title>When do we consumers benefit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268125680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, I've been waiting for something better than 150 kB/s service for years, despite the promises by AT&amp;T and Verizon that they're "rolling out" fiber to the home.  Not my  home.</p><p>When can I finally stream in real time at least one channel of video content that's not so compressed that it's unwatchable?  At a subscription rate of under $40/month?  When that happens, I'll be impressed.</p><p>However, I'm fearing that USians have been living under monopoly conditions of artificial bandwidth scarcity for so long that we're going to let the AT&amp;Ts and Verizons charge us an arm and a leg for this  kind of service in the near term.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , I 've been waiting for something better than 150 kB/s service for years , despite the promises by AT&amp;T and Verizon that they 're " rolling out " fiber to the home .
Not my home.When can I finally stream in real time at least one channel of video content that 's not so compressed that it 's unwatchable ?
At a subscription rate of under $ 40/month ?
When that happens , I 'll be impressed.However , I 'm fearing that USians have been living under monopoly conditions of artificial bandwidth scarcity for so long that we 're going to let the AT&amp;Ts and Verizons charge us an arm and a leg for this kind of service in the near term .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, I've been waiting for something better than 150 kB/s service for years, despite the promises by AT&amp;T and Verizon that they're "rolling out" fiber to the home.
Not my  home.When can I finally stream in real time at least one channel of video content that's not so compressed that it's unwatchable?
At a subscription rate of under $40/month?
When that happens, I'll be impressed.However, I'm fearing that USians have been living under monopoly conditions of artificial bandwidth scarcity for so long that we're going to let the AT&amp;Ts and Verizons charge us an arm and a leg for this  kind of service in the near term.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31424218</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>ionix5891</author>
	<datestamp>1268216640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look at the circuits on that!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look at the circuits on that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look at the circuits on that!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31422002</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>sharkey</author>
	<datestamp>1268145660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As long as it has RS-232, some of us will be happy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as it has RS-232 , some of us will be happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as it has RS-232, some of us will be happy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418742</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>ffejie</author>
	<datestamp>1268127540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5763/prod\_models\_comparison.html" title="cisco.com">Model Comparison</a> [cisco.com] <br> <br>

<a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5763/CRS-3\_16-Slot\_DS.html" title="cisco.com">Detailed Specs</a> [cisco.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Model Comparison [ cisco.com ] Detailed Specs [ cisco.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Model Comparison [cisco.com]  

Detailed Specs [cisco.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419920</id>
	<title>give everyone in San Fransisco a 1Gbps connection</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1268132700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or reduce network reliability by reducing redundancy and introducing more critical choke points.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or reduce network reliability by reducing redundancy and introducing more critical choke points .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or reduce network reliability by reducing redundancy and introducing more critical choke points.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418222</id>
	<title>Geek Porn</title>
	<author>keithpreston</author>
	<datestamp>1268125440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok, 322Tbit/sec is cool and all, but where is the geek porn of it?   Images, technical details and specifications?   Otherwise it is vaporware to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , 322Tbit/sec is cool and all , but where is the geek porn of it ?
Images , technical details and specifications ?
Otherwise it is vaporware to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, 322Tbit/sec is cool and all, but where is the geek porn of it?
Images, technical details and specifications?
Otherwise it is vaporware to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31421652</id>
	<title>Big diff is 100Gbps Ethernet</title>
	<author>billstewart</author>
	<datestamp>1268142540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What you need to really look at to compare technology growth is the backplane density, how many cabinets you need, how many interfaces of what kinds of speeds, prices, energy consumption, etc.  The big marketing number isn't where you see Moore's Law sorts of effects, and the prices of optics don't behave the same way the prices of chips do.</p><p>The CRS-1 and CRS-3 are both really big honking routers - you don't get to 100Tbs speeds without ganging together a large number of chassis in multiple racks.  And you don't typically use anywhere near that much routing in one place.  Wikipedia reports that Google and AT&amp;T were each carrying traffic in the 20 PByte/day range - that would be about 2Terabits/sec if it were spread out evenly over 24 hours.  (It's not, of course, but it's also not all on the same fiber or same switch.  A typical big US carrier has big switches in 20-40 cities, often in pairs for diversity, and some level of fiber meshing that reflects geography as well as traffic patterns and interface cost optimization.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What you need to really look at to compare technology growth is the backplane density , how many cabinets you need , how many interfaces of what kinds of speeds , prices , energy consumption , etc .
The big marketing number is n't where you see Moore 's Law sorts of effects , and the prices of optics do n't behave the same way the prices of chips do.The CRS-1 and CRS-3 are both really big honking routers - you do n't get to 100Tbs speeds without ganging together a large number of chassis in multiple racks .
And you do n't typically use anywhere near that much routing in one place .
Wikipedia reports that Google and AT&amp;T were each carrying traffic in the 20 PByte/day range - that would be about 2Terabits/sec if it were spread out evenly over 24 hours .
( It 's not , of course , but it 's also not all on the same fiber or same switch .
A typical big US carrier has big switches in 20-40 cities , often in pairs for diversity , and some level of fiber meshing that reflects geography as well as traffic patterns and interface cost optimization .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What you need to really look at to compare technology growth is the backplane density, how many cabinets you need, how many interfaces of what kinds of speeds, prices, energy consumption, etc.
The big marketing number isn't where you see Moore's Law sorts of effects, and the prices of optics don't behave the same way the prices of chips do.The CRS-1 and CRS-3 are both really big honking routers - you don't get to 100Tbs speeds without ganging together a large number of chassis in multiple racks.
And you don't typically use anywhere near that much routing in one place.
Wikipedia reports that Google and AT&amp;T were each carrying traffic in the 20 PByte/day range - that would be about 2Terabits/sec if it were spread out evenly over 24 hours.
(It's not, of course, but it's also not all on the same fiber or same switch.
A typical big US carrier has big switches in 20-40 cities, often in pairs for diversity, and some level of fiber meshing that reflects geography as well as traffic patterns and interface cost optimization.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420776</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268136900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For $90K you just get the power cable...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For $ 90K you just get the power cable.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For $90K you just get the power cable...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423230</id>
	<title>Re:jaded, who care?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268158380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am not sure if cisco cares if the net stays neutral or not, just as long as they continue to sell their systems.  In fact it might be in Cisco's best<br>interest to sell these and traffic shaping devices...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not sure if cisco cares if the net stays neutral or not , just as long as they continue to sell their systems .
In fact it might be in Cisco 's bestinterest to sell these and traffic shaping devices.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not sure if cisco cares if the net stays neutral or not, just as long as they continue to sell their systems.
In fact it might be in Cisco's bestinterest to sell these and traffic shaping devices...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418578</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>oneofthose</author>
	<datestamp>1268126940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's an image: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cisco\_pics/4406738473/sizes/o/" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/cisco\_pics/4406738473/sizes/o/</a> [flickr.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's an image : http : //www.flickr.com/photos/cisco \ _pics/4406738473/sizes/o/ [ flickr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's an image: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cisco\_pics/4406738473/sizes/o/ [flickr.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423846</id>
	<title>Nice Toy, CISCO</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268211660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except for the fact that no carrier in the US will ever have speeds like that in the service life of said router, nor will expand their infrastructure to meet those demands.</p><p>Of course that's why CISCO is doing business elsewhere these days<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:V</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except for the fact that no carrier in the US will ever have speeds like that in the service life of said router , nor will expand their infrastructure to meet those demands.Of course that 's why CISCO is doing business elsewhere these days : V</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except for the fact that no carrier in the US will ever have speeds like that in the service life of said router, nor will expand their infrastructure to meet those demands.Of course that's why CISCO is doing business elsewhere these days :V</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418920</id>
	<title>"one Library of Congress"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268128320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is the measure "one Library of Congress"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is the measure " one Library of Congress " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is the measure "one Library of Congress"?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417942</id>
	<title>Will it run DDWRT or Tomato?</title>
	<author>NevarMore</author>
	<datestamp>1268167680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kidding, but you know someone is going to seriously ask that sometime today.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kidding , but you know someone is going to seriously ask that sometime today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kidding, but you know someone is going to seriously ask that sometime today.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31424924</id>
	<title>Re:Internet and Internet 2 is smoke in the US of A</title>
	<author>frn123</author>
	<datestamp>1268228640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; In Japan, it's pretty easy even in rural areas like Kyoto to order a 100Mb connection and get it at a reasonable rate.</p><p>Kyoto? Rural area? Are you nuts?<br>From wikipedia:<br>Population (April 2008)     1,465,917<br>
&nbsp; - Density     1,779/km2 (4,607.6/sq mi)</p><p>(For comparison - New York City - Metro Density     2,828.4/sq mi (1,092/km2))</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; In Japan , it 's pretty easy even in rural areas like Kyoto to order a 100Mb connection and get it at a reasonable rate.Kyoto ?
Rural area ?
Are you nuts ? From wikipedia : Population ( April 2008 ) 1,465,917   - Density 1,779/km2 ( 4,607.6/sq mi ) ( For comparison - New York City - Metro Density 2,828.4/sq mi ( 1,092/km2 ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; In Japan, it's pretty easy even in rural areas like Kyoto to order a 100Mb connection and get it at a reasonable rate.Kyoto?
Rural area?
Are you nuts?From wikipedia:Population (April 2008)     1,465,917
  - Density     1,779/km2 (4,607.6/sq mi)(For comparison - New York City - Metro Density     2,828.4/sq mi (1,092/km2))</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419194</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>hamisht</author>
	<datestamp>1268129580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>when I first read your comment I thought you said you would have to "pay for the bug fix" to get full capacity, even after re-reading I think my initial parsing still makes sense...</htmltext>
<tokenext>when I first read your comment I thought you said you would have to " pay for the bug fix " to get full capacity , even after re-reading I think my initial parsing still makes sense.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when I first read your comment I thought you said you would have to "pay for the bug fix" to get full capacity, even after re-reading I think my initial parsing still makes sense...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418178</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419978</id>
	<title>Testing in Louisiana going well I hear...</title>
	<author>gsgriffin</author>
	<datestamp>1268133120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>last reports from the technician in Louisiana stated, "Dad-gum, this dohicky sure does spit out those bits.  We can hook up trailers from here to kingdom come and still have plenty of highway."  Real tests in California are still forthcoming.</htmltext>
<tokenext>last reports from the technician in Louisiana stated , " Dad-gum , this dohicky sure does spit out those bits .
We can hook up trailers from here to kingdom come and still have plenty of highway .
" Real tests in California are still forthcoming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>last reports from the technician in Louisiana stated, "Dad-gum, this dohicky sure does spit out those bits.
We can hook up trailers from here to kingdom come and still have plenty of highway.
"  Real tests in California are still forthcoming.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423178</id>
	<title>Re:Cables?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268157840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What is the limit of a fibre cable?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>15 years ago Tennenbaum's book indicated the theoretical limit is around 50Tbps.  However, practical limits are going to lower that rate.  For example, the signal will greatly dimish while crossing the Atlantic.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is the limit of a fibre cable ?
15 years ago Tennenbaum 's book indicated the theoretical limit is around 50Tbps .
However , practical limits are going to lower that rate .
For example , the signal will greatly dimish while crossing the Atlantic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is the limit of a fibre cable?
15 years ago Tennenbaum's book indicated the theoretical limit is around 50Tbps.
However, practical limits are going to lower that rate.
For example, the signal will greatly dimish while crossing the Atlantic.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418230</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31421528</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>Techman83</author>
	<datestamp>1268141700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wonder what Smartnet costs will be for that puppy! For those that don't know, the only way to get firmware updates legitimately for Cisco kit is to pay for Smartnet. Quite a rort IMHO, but the market seem to be happy to pay for it. Guess that's why they have something like 100 Billion in cash laying around, Which they use to fund their Cisco Finance arm, that gets more people addicted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wonder what Smartnet costs will be for that puppy !
For those that do n't know , the only way to get firmware updates legitimately for Cisco kit is to pay for Smartnet .
Quite a rort IMHO , but the market seem to be happy to pay for it .
Guess that 's why they have something like 100 Billion in cash laying around , Which they use to fund their Cisco Finance arm , that gets more people addicted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wonder what Smartnet costs will be for that puppy!
For those that don't know, the only way to get firmware updates legitimately for Cisco kit is to pay for Smartnet.
Quite a rort IMHO, but the market seem to be happy to pay for it.
Guess that's why they have something like 100 Billion in cash laying around, Which they use to fund their Cisco Finance arm, that gets more people addicted.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418392</id>
	<title>What was the question again?</title>
	<author>fast turtle</author>
	<datestamp>1268126160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry but my CRS-3 (can't remember shit) Syndrome is running quite fast today. It's currently deleting the question before you even ask it and creating a space/time continium loop meaning we'll have to repeat this day forever</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry but my CRS-3 ( ca n't remember shit ) Syndrome is running quite fast today .
It 's currently deleting the question before you even ask it and creating a space/time continium loop meaning we 'll have to repeat this day forever</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry but my CRS-3 (can't remember shit) Syndrome is running quite fast today.
It's currently deleting the question before you even ask it and creating a space/time continium loop meaning we'll have to repeat this day forever</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418728</id>
	<title>Re:Too small a jump for a 6 years -- red flags!</title>
	<author>warmflatsprite</author>
	<datestamp>1268127480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Moore's law (which doesn't work in every way, but it certainly works for the computing processors in this thing) would suggest that this thing has a lot more CPU power than the CRS-1.  (In six years we'd expect somewhere between 8 and 32 times the oomph.)  And yet they only encumbered it with three times the bandwidth.</p></div><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's\_law" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Moore's law</a> [wikipedia.org] applies to the number of transistors on an integrated circuit and has absolutely <b>nothing</b> to do with bandwidth.  Chip throughput is much more a function of the chip architecture than the number of transistors on chip.  Even if chip throughput was somehow correlated to Moore's law, there are still unrelated inefficiencies in the physical layer that are very complex and difficult to overcome.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Moore 's law ( which does n't work in every way , but it certainly works for the computing processors in this thing ) would suggest that this thing has a lot more CPU power than the CRS-1 .
( In six years we 'd expect somewhere between 8 and 32 times the oomph .
) And yet they only encumbered it with three times the bandwidth .
Moore 's law [ wikipedia.org ] applies to the number of transistors on an integrated circuit and has absolutely nothing to do with bandwidth .
Chip throughput is much more a function of the chip architecture than the number of transistors on chip .
Even if chip throughput was somehow correlated to Moore 's law , there are still unrelated inefficiencies in the physical layer that are very complex and difficult to overcome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Moore's law (which doesn't work in every way, but it certainly works for the computing processors in this thing) would suggest that this thing has a lot more CPU power than the CRS-1.
(In six years we'd expect somewhere between 8 and 32 times the oomph.
)  And yet they only encumbered it with three times the bandwidth.
Moore's law [wikipedia.org] applies to the number of transistors on an integrated circuit and has absolutely nothing to do with bandwidth.
Chip throughput is much more a function of the chip architecture than the number of transistors on chip.
Even if chip throughput was somehow correlated to Moore's law, there are still unrelated inefficiencies in the physical layer that are very complex and difficult to overcome.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419916</id>
	<title>benchmarks please</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268132700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cisco have a long history of saying their platforms can do xyz performance. The reality is that its almost never actually capable of doing those sorts of numbers. It's the same with almost all network providers.... The power point to reality converter was never actually working in the engineering lab at the time of release. Having worked in a HPC environment in the past where we had 6500's with 6748-GE-TX Blades with DFC's and Sup720-3BXL's all connected with 4 port 10GbE cards top of the line stuff for Ethernet switching and it used to constantly loose Layer2 and or crash, Cisco couldn't find the fault told us to upgrade to the Nexus and in the end we went with Foundry Networks (no Brocade) who could actually perform but had some software bugs which they worked on and fixed but should never have existed in the first place if they did QA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cisco have a long history of saying their platforms can do xyz performance .
The reality is that its almost never actually capable of doing those sorts of numbers .
It 's the same with almost all network providers.... The power point to reality converter was never actually working in the engineering lab at the time of release .
Having worked in a HPC environment in the past where we had 6500 's with 6748-GE-TX Blades with DFC 's and Sup720-3BXL 's all connected with 4 port 10GbE cards top of the line stuff for Ethernet switching and it used to constantly loose Layer2 and or crash , Cisco could n't find the fault told us to upgrade to the Nexus and in the end we went with Foundry Networks ( no Brocade ) who could actually perform but had some software bugs which they worked on and fixed but should never have existed in the first place if they did QA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cisco have a long history of saying their platforms can do xyz performance.
The reality is that its almost never actually capable of doing those sorts of numbers.
It's the same with almost all network providers.... The power point to reality converter was never actually working in the engineering lab at the time of release.
Having worked in a HPC environment in the past where we had 6500's with 6748-GE-TX Blades with DFC's and Sup720-3BXL's all connected with 4 port 10GbE cards top of the line stuff for Ethernet switching and it used to constantly loose Layer2 and or crash, Cisco couldn't find the fault told us to upgrade to the Nexus and in the end we went with Foundry Networks (no Brocade) who could actually perform but had some software bugs which they worked on and fixed but should never have existed in the first place if they did QA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31421534</id>
	<title>Re:Internet and Internet 2 is smoke in the US of A</title>
	<author>failedlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1268141700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder who is funding the networks in Japan. In the US and Canada its generally the Telcos (MA Bells) and the Cable companies. These companies collect their subscriber fees and then bug the governments for tax favors, grants<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... you know the usually political favors.</p><p>So is the Japanese system entirely subscriber funded, government or both?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder who is funding the networks in Japan .
In the US and Canada its generally the Telcos ( MA Bells ) and the Cable companies .
These companies collect their subscriber fees and then bug the governments for tax favors , grants ... you know the usually political favors.So is the Japanese system entirely subscriber funded , government or both ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder who is funding the networks in Japan.
In the US and Canada its generally the Telcos (MA Bells) and the Cable companies.
These companies collect their subscriber fees and then bug the governments for tax favors, grants ... you know the usually political favors.So is the Japanese system entirely subscriber funded, government or both?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418542</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31421298</id>
	<title>Supports up to 100Gbps Ethernet</title>
	<author>billstewart</author>
	<datestamp>1268140320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One reason for systems this heavy is to support 100Gbps Ethernet trunking; most carrier routers are limited to 40Gbps or 10Gbps.  Another reason is to support lots of cables at high speeds.   All of those speeds are per-wavelength; you can multiplex large numbers of wavelengths on a single cable depending on what kind of optical switching gear you're using, but that's usually a Layer 1 question.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One reason for systems this heavy is to support 100Gbps Ethernet trunking ; most carrier routers are limited to 40Gbps or 10Gbps .
Another reason is to support lots of cables at high speeds .
All of those speeds are per-wavelength ; you can multiplex large numbers of wavelengths on a single cable depending on what kind of optical switching gear you 're using , but that 's usually a Layer 1 question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One reason for systems this heavy is to support 100Gbps Ethernet trunking; most carrier routers are limited to 40Gbps or 10Gbps.
Another reason is to support lots of cables at high speeds.
All of those speeds are per-wavelength; you can multiplex large numbers of wavelengths on a single cable depending on what kind of optical switching gear you're using, but that's usually a Layer 1 question.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418230</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31422778</id>
	<title>Re:When do we consumers benefit?</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1268153340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Verizon can actually be FTTH but freaking u-Verse is VDSL from the local mini-DSLAM which is simply retarded as they don't save much money and will have to rip that stuff out in another decade (but they're the phone company so they don't have to care, just more work for their techs and more subsidies from the government).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Verizon can actually be FTTH but freaking u-Verse is VDSL from the local mini-DSLAM which is simply retarded as they do n't save much money and will have to rip that stuff out in another decade ( but they 're the phone company so they do n't have to care , just more work for their techs and more subsidies from the government ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verizon can actually be FTTH but freaking u-Verse is VDSL from the local mini-DSLAM which is simply retarded as they don't save much money and will have to rip that stuff out in another decade (but they're the phone company so they don't have to care, just more work for their techs and more subsidies from the government).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420046</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420396</id>
	<title>Too bad they don't actually name it the...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268134860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BFR-9000</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BFR-9000</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BFR-9000</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417990</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423034</id>
	<title>Will we be able to get a wireless N version?</title>
	<author>mykos</author>
	<datestamp>1268156100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The wired speed is pretty good, but I also want to be able to stream HD movies on my home network.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The wired speed is pretty good , but I also want to be able to stream HD movies on my home network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The wired speed is pretty good, but I also want to be able to stream HD movies on my home network.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418306</id>
	<title>Re:jaded, who care?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268125860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Between terrible last mile infrastructure and ISP throttling I can't help but sarcastically comment big freaking deal.</p></div><p>We'll they can't complain now that there isn't enough bandwidth so they have to meter it now.</p><p>Cisco as I see it has a vested interested in ensuring that the net remains neutral to push these kind of product upgrades. Coupled with premise end-point equipment it stands that they would want more bandwidth use and leverage monitoring, rather then metering, Internet use.</p><p>Metering is a waste, monitoring and then selling said info, there is where the money will be...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Between terrible last mile infrastructure and ISP throttling I ca n't help but sarcastically comment big freaking deal.We 'll they ca n't complain now that there is n't enough bandwidth so they have to meter it now.Cisco as I see it has a vested interested in ensuring that the net remains neutral to push these kind of product upgrades .
Coupled with premise end-point equipment it stands that they would want more bandwidth use and leverage monitoring , rather then metering , Internet use.Metering is a waste , monitoring and then selling said info , there is where the money will be.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Between terrible last mile infrastructure and ISP throttling I can't help but sarcastically comment big freaking deal.We'll they can't complain now that there isn't enough bandwidth so they have to meter it now.Cisco as I see it has a vested interested in ensuring that the net remains neutral to push these kind of product upgrades.
Coupled with premise end-point equipment it stands that they would want more bandwidth use and leverage monitoring, rather then metering, Internet use.Metering is a waste, monitoring and then selling said info, there is where the money will be...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418094</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417948</id>
	<title>Library of Congresses per second</title>
	<author>ravenspear</author>
	<datestamp>1268167680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The new standard in router benchmarks for the 21st century!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The new standard in router benchmarks for the 21st century !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new standard in router benchmarks for the 21st century!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31428014</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind - DPI</title>
	<author>mjwalshe</author>
	<datestamp>1268244900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the NSA and GCHQ will have all ready got theirs on order<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-) though thats not actualy a joke</htmltext>
<tokenext>the NSA and GCHQ will have all ready got theirs on order : - ) though thats not actualy a joke</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the NSA and GCHQ will have all ready got theirs on order :-) though thats not actualy a joke</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420040</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31421588</id>
	<title>Re:Internet and Internet 2 is smoke in the US of A</title>
	<author>sonicmerlin</author>
	<datestamp>1268142000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While we'll see Japanese levels of connectivity from cable companies, we won't see Japanese prices.

In large part because the current FCC is headed by a weakling with no political support from the centrist Obama-led Democrats.  His national broadband plan and its leaked info from various sources has turned out so far to be a complete cop-out to the incumbents and an utter waste of time.  You *know* a Republican president won't commission a new plan, so we'll have to wait until the *next* Democratic president for a proper national broadband initiative.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While we 'll see Japanese levels of connectivity from cable companies , we wo n't see Japanese prices .
In large part because the current FCC is headed by a weakling with no political support from the centrist Obama-led Democrats .
His national broadband plan and its leaked info from various sources has turned out so far to be a complete cop-out to the incumbents and an utter waste of time .
You * know * a Republican president wo n't commission a new plan , so we 'll have to wait until the * next * Democratic president for a proper national broadband initiative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While we'll see Japanese levels of connectivity from cable companies, we won't see Japanese prices.
In large part because the current FCC is headed by a weakling with no political support from the centrist Obama-led Democrats.
His national broadband plan and its leaked info from various sources has turned out so far to be a complete cop-out to the incumbents and an utter waste of time.
You *know* a Republican president won't commission a new plan, so we'll have to wait until the *next* Democratic president for a proper national broadband initiative.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418542</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420080</id>
	<title>Re:jaded, who care?</title>
	<author>PPalmgren</author>
	<datestamp>1268133600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, I'm pretty sure they sell monitoring hardware as well (can't remember which story it was linked to but I think it was Comcast).</p><p>They win either way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I 'm pretty sure they sell monitoring hardware as well ( ca n't remember which story it was linked to but I think it was Comcast ) .They win either way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I'm pretty sure they sell monitoring hardware as well (can't remember which story it was linked to but I think it was Comcast).They win either way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418306</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419542</id>
	<title>Re:Will it run DDWRT or Tomato?</title>
	<author>oasisbob</author>
	<datestamp>1268130960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Yep, because idiots think their linux nat appliances are routers just because they use them in an 'office', and those of us who've worked in telecom laugh at them decisively.</p></div></blockquote><p>That's odd, I always thought they were routers because they connected two different networks and routed packets between them. *shrugs*</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , because idiots think their linux nat appliances are routers just because they use them in an 'office ' , and those of us who 've worked in telecom laugh at them decisively.That 's odd , I always thought they were routers because they connected two different networks and routed packets between them .
* shrugs *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, because idiots think their linux nat appliances are routers just because they use them in an 'office', and those of us who've worked in telecom laugh at them decisively.That's odd, I always thought they were routers because they connected two different networks and routed packets between them.
*shrugs*
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418688</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418642</id>
	<title>Re:When do we consumers benefit?</title>
	<author>b0bby</author>
	<datestamp>1268127240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm, I got FIOS this year, it's about $40/month for the internet portion, and I can stream HD Netflix movies which look great with no problem. So I'd say find out where Google is rolling out their fast fiber &amp; move there<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , I got FIOS this year , it 's about $ 40/month for the internet portion , and I can stream HD Netflix movies which look great with no problem .
So I 'd say find out where Google is rolling out their fast fiber &amp; move there ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, I got FIOS this year, it's about $40/month for the internet portion, and I can stream HD Netflix movies which look great with no problem.
So I'd say find out where Google is rolling out their fast fiber &amp; move there ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418270</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31422800</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Congresses per second</title>
	<author>cafelatte</author>
	<datestamp>1268153520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I much prefer the <a href="http://idle.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1563258&amp;cid=31276234" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Astley</a> [slashdot.org] as a unit of measurement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I much prefer the Astley [ slashdot.org ] as a unit of measurement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I much prefer the Astley [slashdot.org] as a unit of measurement.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417948</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418484</id>
	<title>It runs QNX</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268126520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Like all Cisco high-end routers, it runs QNX Neutrino.  The version used in these routers has a 12KB (not MB) microkernel.
Almost all the packet handling is in FPGAs, but the supervision, error handling, etc. are in Cisco applications running on QNX Neutrino.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like all Cisco high-end routers , it runs QNX Neutrino .
The version used in these routers has a 12KB ( not MB ) microkernel .
Almost all the packet handling is in FPGAs , but the supervision , error handling , etc .
are in Cisco applications running on QNX Neutrino .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Like all Cisco high-end routers, it runs QNX Neutrino.
The version used in these routers has a 12KB (not MB) microkernel.
Almost all the packet handling is in FPGAs, but the supervision, error handling, etc.
are in Cisco applications running on QNX Neutrino.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420216</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>Revotron</author>
	<datestamp>1268134140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In one of the propaganda videos off to the right side of the Cisco press release, it was stated that Cisco saw the CRS1 as having a potential market of 50 units, and to date they've moved approximately 5000.</p><p>They're probably pushing the CRS3 at $90k because:<br>1) They learned from the CRS1 that these units will sell like hot cakes, thus they can slim the price tag and still get sizable returns.<br>2) The slim price tag will actually encourage further sales.</p><p>The low entry price is shocking, no doubt.  With $90k in the same store you could buy 9 Cisco 10GbE XENPAK modules.  I'm betting any CRS3 you can get for $90k would have either no line cards, or perhaps one or two line cards with one or two 10Gb ports each, and if anything breaks you're screwed because that $90k certainly won't get you SMARTNET included.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In one of the propaganda videos off to the right side of the Cisco press release , it was stated that Cisco saw the CRS1 as having a potential market of 50 units , and to date they 've moved approximately 5000.They 're probably pushing the CRS3 at $ 90k because : 1 ) They learned from the CRS1 that these units will sell like hot cakes , thus they can slim the price tag and still get sizable returns.2 ) The slim price tag will actually encourage further sales.The low entry price is shocking , no doubt .
With $ 90k in the same store you could buy 9 Cisco 10GbE XENPAK modules .
I 'm betting any CRS3 you can get for $ 90k would have either no line cards , or perhaps one or two line cards with one or two 10Gb ports each , and if anything breaks you 're screwed because that $ 90k certainly wo n't get you SMARTNET included .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In one of the propaganda videos off to the right side of the Cisco press release, it was stated that Cisco saw the CRS1 as having a potential market of 50 units, and to date they've moved approximately 5000.They're probably pushing the CRS3 at $90k because:1) They learned from the CRS1 that these units will sell like hot cakes, thus they can slim the price tag and still get sizable returns.2) The slim price tag will actually encourage further sales.The low entry price is shocking, no doubt.
With $90k in the same store you could buy 9 Cisco 10GbE XENPAK modules.
I'm betting any CRS3 you can get for $90k would have either no line cards, or perhaps one or two line cards with one or two 10Gb ports each, and if anything breaks you're screwed because that $90k certainly won't get you SMARTNET included.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418178</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419540</id>
	<title>Re:Fast, fast, fast!</title>
	<author>frank\_adrian314159</author>
	<datestamp>1268130960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'm sure that with one of these routers, I've already been beaten to the punch!</i> </p><p>Well, something's been beaten to the punch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure that with one of these routers , I 've already been beaten to the punch !
Well , something 's been beaten to the punch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure that with one of these routers, I've already been beaten to the punch!
Well, something's been beaten to the punch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418080</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420626</id>
	<title>Re:When do we consumers benefit?</title>
	<author>arndawg</author>
	<datestamp>1268136060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>YO DAWG. I heard u liked living away from the city. SO we crapped on your infrastructures infrastructure so you can wait while you wait.</htmltext>
<tokenext>YO DAWG .
I heard u liked living away from the city .
SO we crapped on your infrastructures infrastructure so you can wait while you wait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YO DAWG.
I heard u liked living away from the city.
SO we crapped on your infrastructures infrastructure so you can wait while you wait.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418270</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417952</id>
	<title>Awesome router</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268167680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the first poster doesn't have a comment like "Yeah I'm using one of them right now, my internet is blazingly fast", it's a wasted opportunity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the first poster does n't have a comment like " Yeah I 'm using one of them right now , my internet is blazingly fast " , it 's a wasted opportunity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the first poster doesn't have a comment like "Yeah I'm using one of them right now, my internet is blazingly fast", it's a wasted opportunity.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418118</id>
	<title>Woohoo! Yay! Wonderful!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268168220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can watch TV... On the Internet!</p><p>John Chambers: Man of Vision!</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can watch TV... On the Internet ! John Chambers : Man of Vision !
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can watch TV... On the Internet!John Chambers: Man of Vision!
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418188</id>
	<title>322 Tbit/sec until.......</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268125260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Until you put anything processor intensive on. You'd probably get no where near that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Until you put anything processor intensive on .
You 'd probably get no where near that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until you put anything processor intensive on.
You'd probably get no where near that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418000</id>
	<title>This standard has issues.</title>
	<author>You'reJustSlashFlock</author>
	<datestamp>1268167860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>For example, is Library of Congress prime?</htmltext>
<tokenext>For example , is Library of Congress prime ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For example, is Library of Congress prime?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418082</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Congresses per second</title>
	<author>belthize</author>
	<datestamp>1268168100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I think that should be LoC/fortnight.</p><p><a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1572030&amp;cid=31370054" title="slashdot.org">http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1572030&amp;cid=31370054</a> [slashdot.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>      I think that should be LoC/fortnight.http : //slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1572030&amp;cid = 31370054 [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
      I think that should be LoC/fortnight.http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1572030&amp;cid=31370054 [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417948</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420040</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind - DPI</title>
	<author>Aqualung812</author>
	<datestamp>1268133360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, the question on my mind is if this device is really going to be used to just route bits at layer 3, or if such massive hardware is going to sell more as a very fast deep packet inspection layer 7 device.  I think there are ISPs like AT&amp;T that would love to go deeper...in every way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the question on my mind is if this device is really going to be used to just route bits at layer 3 , or if such massive hardware is going to sell more as a very fast deep packet inspection layer 7 device .
I think there are ISPs like AT&amp;T that would love to go deeper...in every way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the question on my mind is if this device is really going to be used to just route bits at layer 3, or if such massive hardware is going to sell more as a very fast deep packet inspection layer 7 device.
I think there are ISPs like AT&amp;T that would love to go deeper...in every way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417990</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418502</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268126580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There isn't much on the tubes about this yet. It's only been announced. So far, I can only find some imitation porn for you,</p><p>http://www.smartplc.com/images/crs3.jpg<br>http://himawan.blogsome.com/images/crs3.JPG</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is n't much on the tubes about this yet .
It 's only been announced .
So far , I can only find some imitation porn for you,http : //www.smartplc.com/images/crs3.jpghttp : //himawan.blogsome.com/images/crs3.JPG</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There isn't much on the tubes about this yet.
It's only been announced.
So far, I can only find some imitation porn for you,http://www.smartplc.com/images/crs3.jpghttp://himawan.blogsome.com/images/crs3.JPG</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418222</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418672</id>
	<title>Whoh Nelly!</title>
	<author>flahwho</author>
	<datestamp>1268127300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someone's gunna hafta put some loops in that horse to slow her down!
<br> <br>
--<br>yeehaw</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone 's gunna hafta put some loops in that horse to slow her down !
--yeehaw</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone's gunna hafta put some loops in that horse to slow her down!
--yeehaw</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418918</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268128260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nice rack!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice rack !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice rack!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418826</id>
	<title>Re:jaded, who care?</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1268127960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're so bothered by the problem you don't even care about the solution?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're so bothered by the problem you do n't even care about the solution ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're so bothered by the problem you don't even care about the solution?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418094</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418288</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Congresses per second</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1268125740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One "Library of Congresses per second" is about one extensive pr0n collection per hour. Hmmm... Not bad...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One " Library of Congresses per second " is about one extensive pr0n collection per hour .
Hmmm... Not bad.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One "Library of Congresses per second" is about one extensive pr0n collection per hour.
Hmmm... Not bad...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31421784</id>
	<title>One Internet Archive</title>
	<author>billstewart</author>
	<datestamp>1268143800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wikipedia's article on Petabytes says that archive.org has about three of them, though obviously that's a moving target...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wikipedia 's article on Petabytes says that archive.org has about three of them , though obviously that 's a moving target.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wikipedia's article on Petabytes says that archive.org has about three of them, though obviously that's a moving target...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418920</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418730</id>
	<title>Red Flags?</title>
	<author>flahwho</author>
	<datestamp>1268127480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And though its called a law, It's NOT &amp; increased processing power does not equate to throughput.  GEEZ!</htmltext>
<tokenext>And though its called a law , It 's NOT &amp; increased processing power does not equate to throughput .
GEEZ !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And though its called a law, It's NOT &amp; increased processing power does not equate to throughput.
GEEZ!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419616</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>frank\_adrian314159</author>
	<datestamp>1268131320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These were not the racks I wished to see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These were not the racks I wished to see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These were not the racks I wished to see.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419430</id>
	<title>Re:You're Kidding me, right?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, and I'm probably not going to space any time soon but news from NASA is clearly news for nerds.</p><p>It doesn't have to be immediately relevant or impact me directly to be worthy of being on slashdot.  It just has to be interesting, as defined by nerdy interests.  This qualifies for many of us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and I 'm probably not going to space any time soon but news from NASA is clearly news for nerds.It does n't have to be immediately relevant or impact me directly to be worthy of being on slashdot .
It just has to be interesting , as defined by nerdy interests .
This qualifies for many of us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and I'm probably not going to space any time soon but news from NASA is clearly news for nerds.It doesn't have to be immediately relevant or impact me directly to be worthy of being on slashdot.
It just has to be interesting, as defined by nerdy interests.
This qualifies for many of us.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418612</id>
	<title>You're Kidding me, right?</title>
	<author>Crypto Gnome</author>
	<datestamp>1268127060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slashdot, MARKETING-FLUFF FOR NERDS, because news doesn't matter.<br> <br>Near enough to NONE of us will care about this, in the same way that we don't (really) care where our local ISP buys their power from.<ul> <li>not relevant</li><li>not important</li></ul><p>Yeah it says Cisco+Internet+Faster in the same breath but </p><ul> <li>Not going to directly impact you</li><li>not going to impact you in anything like the near future (Carriers do NOT drop millions of dollars on new routers every week, just cause a new product comes out)</li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot , MARKETING-FLUFF FOR NERDS , because news does n't matter .
Near enough to NONE of us will care about this , in the same way that we do n't ( really ) care where our local ISP buys their power from .
not relevantnot importantYeah it says Cisco + Internet + Faster in the same breath but Not going to directly impact younot going to impact you in anything like the near future ( Carriers do NOT drop millions of dollars on new routers every week , just cause a new product comes out )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot, MARKETING-FLUFF FOR NERDS, because news doesn't matter.
Near enough to NONE of us will care about this, in the same way that we don't (really) care where our local ISP buys their power from.
not relevantnot importantYeah it says Cisco+Internet+Faster in the same breath but  Not going to directly impact younot going to impact you in anything like the near future (Carriers do NOT drop millions of dollars on new routers every week, just cause a new product comes out)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418478</id>
	<title>Re:Cables?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268126520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RS-232 null modem cable.  To prevent any data loss the CRS-3 is outfitted with a 16550 UART.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RS-232 null modem cable .
To prevent any data loss the CRS-3 is outfitted with a 16550 UART .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RS-232 null modem cable.
To prevent any data loss the CRS-3 is outfitted with a 16550 UART.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420618</id>
	<title>Testing in Florida and Louisiana</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268136000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Testing in Florida and Louisiana makes sense - how else are the Bible-belters supposed to get gay porn?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Testing in Florida and Louisiana makes sense - how else are the Bible-belters supposed to get gay porn ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Testing in Florida and Louisiana makes sense - how else are the Bible-belters supposed to get gay porn?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31421800</id>
	<title>Re:jaded, who care?</title>
	<author>oneshotwonder</author>
	<datestamp>1268143980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are a whole host of ways to shape traffic: strict priority, class of service, weighted fair queuing, WRED.  When they sell a 322Tbit/sec 90,000 dollar router, the customer has a say in what he is purchasing.  Where I work (in the industry), we pretty much hand the customer a tool box full of traffic shaping utilities and say 'have at it'. Don't think for one sec there isn't a way to shape that 322Tbit/sec pipe into 56k drops.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are a whole host of ways to shape traffic : strict priority , class of service , weighted fair queuing , WRED .
When they sell a 322Tbit/sec 90,000 dollar router , the customer has a say in what he is purchasing .
Where I work ( in the industry ) , we pretty much hand the customer a tool box full of traffic shaping utilities and say 'have at it' .
Do n't think for one sec there is n't a way to shape that 322Tbit/sec pipe into 56k drops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are a whole host of ways to shape traffic: strict priority, class of service, weighted fair queuing, WRED.
When they sell a 322Tbit/sec 90,000 dollar router, the customer has a say in what he is purchasing.
Where I work (in the industry), we pretty much hand the customer a tool box full of traffic shaping utilities and say 'have at it'.
Don't think for one sec there isn't a way to shape that 322Tbit/sec pipe into 56k drops.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418306</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423516</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1268163360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This feature is enabled with the purchase of an additional license.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This feature is enabled with the purchase of an additional license .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This feature is enabled with the purchase of an additional license.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418234</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418144</id>
	<title>"...video emerging as the 'killer app'"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268168280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suggest we call it....  hmmm,  commercial broadcast television, with the emphasis on "Commercial(s)", or maybe Cablevision!</p><p>With MOAR, well, everything!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest we call it.... hmmm , commercial broadcast television , with the emphasis on " Commercial ( s ) " , or maybe Cablevision ! With MOAR , well , everything !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest we call it....  hmmm,  commercial broadcast television, with the emphasis on "Commercial(s)", or maybe Cablevision!With MOAR, well, everything!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419784</id>
	<title>Read The Comments After The Article</title>
	<author>randallman</author>
	<datestamp>1268132040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dr. Chris Centeno posts several times at the end of the article and addresses most of the issues raised here.  Definitely worth reading.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dr. Chris Centeno posts several times at the end of the article and addresses most of the issues raised here .
Definitely worth reading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dr. Chris Centeno posts several times at the end of the article and addresses most of the issues raised here.
Definitely worth reading.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420170</id>
	<title>Re:Internet and Internet 2 is smoke in the US of A</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1268133960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have to say that I must be doing pretty good.  I just did a speed test from my $60 Comcast Business account, and I am getting 23.11 Mb/s down and 6.44 Mb/s up with a 12ms ping from Santa Rosa, CA to San Francisco.  This is with 5 static IP addresses, no throttling, and no port blocking.  Apparently, if you call the Comcast Business line, you can skip most of the Comcast problems for an extra $10 or $15 dollars a month.<br> <br>

That being said, when I got this account, I was switching away from a local ISP going over AT&amp;T's DSL at 1.2Mbs up/128Kbs up for $60/Month, and I had multi-day outages most months.  I had considered uVerse, but AT&amp;T refused to install it unless I canceled my account with their local competitor.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to say that I must be doing pretty good .
I just did a speed test from my $ 60 Comcast Business account , and I am getting 23.11 Mb/s down and 6.44 Mb/s up with a 12ms ping from Santa Rosa , CA to San Francisco .
This is with 5 static IP addresses , no throttling , and no port blocking .
Apparently , if you call the Comcast Business line , you can skip most of the Comcast problems for an extra $ 10 or $ 15 dollars a month .
That being said , when I got this account , I was switching away from a local ISP going over AT&amp;T 's DSL at 1.2Mbs up/128Kbs up for $ 60/Month , and I had multi-day outages most months .
I had considered uVerse , but AT&amp;T refused to install it unless I canceled my account with their local competitor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to say that I must be doing pretty good.
I just did a speed test from my $60 Comcast Business account, and I am getting 23.11 Mb/s down and 6.44 Mb/s up with a 12ms ping from Santa Rosa, CA to San Francisco.
This is with 5 static IP addresses, no throttling, and no port blocking.
Apparently, if you call the Comcast Business line, you can skip most of the Comcast problems for an extra $10 or $15 dollars a month.
That being said, when I got this account, I was switching away from a local ISP going over AT&amp;T's DSL at 1.2Mbs up/128Kbs up for $60/Month, and I had multi-day outages most months.
I had considered uVerse, but AT&amp;T refused to install it unless I canceled my account with their local competitor.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418542</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418488</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Congresses per second</title>
	<author>killmenow</author>
	<datestamp>1268126520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just wait for the CRS-5 to come out. It'll move a <a href="http://www.makehellaofficial.blogspot.com/" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">HellaLibraryOfCongress</a> [blogspot.com] per second.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just wait for the CRS-5 to come out .
It 'll move a HellaLibraryOfCongress [ blogspot.com ] per second .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just wait for the CRS-5 to come out.
It'll move a HellaLibraryOfCongress [blogspot.com] per second.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418788</id>
	<title>Bandwidth cap</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1268127720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Using a CRS-3, every person in China, which has a population just over 1.3 billion, could participate in a video phone call at the same time. (Or you could pump nearly one Library of Congress per second through the device, or give everyone in San Fransisco a 1Gbps internet connection.)</p> </div><p>Or, could exceed their monthly bandwidth "cap" in 155 microseconds.  So, what good is it?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Using a CRS-3 , every person in China , which has a population just over 1.3 billion , could participate in a video phone call at the same time .
( Or you could pump nearly one Library of Congress per second through the device , or give everyone in San Fransisco a 1Gbps internet connection .
) Or , could exceed their monthly bandwidth " cap " in 155 microseconds .
So , what good is it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using a CRS-3, every person in China, which has a population just over 1.3 billion, could participate in a video phone call at the same time.
(Or you could pump nearly one Library of Congress per second through the device, or give everyone in San Fransisco a 1Gbps internet connection.
) Or, could exceed their monthly bandwidth "cap" in 155 microseconds.
So, what good is it?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420046</id>
	<title>Re:When do we consumers benefit?</title>
	<author>jadin</author>
	<datestamp>1268133420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>despite the promises by AT&amp;T and Verizon that they're "rolling out" fiber to the home. Not my home.</p></div><p>Every local ad I see has an asterisk next to it explaining that the fiber stops at the last mile to my home. Makes me wonder how many people are signing up thinking they are getting fiber connections..</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>despite the promises by AT&amp;T and Verizon that they 're " rolling out " fiber to the home .
Not my home.Every local ad I see has an asterisk next to it explaining that the fiber stops at the last mile to my home .
Makes me wonder how many people are signing up thinking they are getting fiber connections. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>despite the promises by AT&amp;T and Verizon that they're "rolling out" fiber to the home.
Not my home.Every local ad I see has an asterisk next to it explaining that the fiber stops at the last mile to my home.
Makes me wonder how many people are signing up thinking they are getting fiber connections..
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418270</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418370</id>
	<title>Re:Cables?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268126040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber-optic\_communication#Bandwidth-distance\_product" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow"> read here </a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>read here [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> read here  [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418230</id>
	<title>Cables?</title>
	<author>kyrre</author>
	<datestamp>1268125440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What kind of wire would this router need? Is a single fibre cable enough for this kind of bandwidth? What is the limit of a fibre cable?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What kind of wire would this router need ?
Is a single fibre cable enough for this kind of bandwidth ?
What is the limit of a fibre cable ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What kind of wire would this router need?
Is a single fibre cable enough for this kind of bandwidth?
What is the limit of a fibre cable?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423742</id>
	<title>Calls per Chinese Population</title>
	<author>Dr.Who</author>
	<datestamp>1268253720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But a large fraction (perhaps 50\%) of those conversations would be the Chinese language equivalent of: "Can you hear me now?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But a large fraction ( perhaps 50 \ % ) of those conversations would be the Chinese language equivalent of : " Can you hear me now ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But a large fraction (perhaps 50\%) of those conversations would be the Chinese language equivalent of: "Can you hear me now?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418166</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31425530</id>
	<title>Re:Too small a jump for a 6 years -- red flags!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268233320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Red flags?" "Too small a jump?"</p><p>What book did you publish, again? Remind me of who you are once more, please. Tell me of your important contributions to computing theory and the like.</p><p>Eh? I'm waiting...</p><p>Red flags...sheesh. You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Red flags ?
" " Too small a jump ?
" What book did you publish , again ?
Remind me of who you are once more , please .
Tell me of your important contributions to computing theory and the like.Eh ?
I 'm waiting...Red flags...sheesh .
You do n't even know what the fuck you 're talking about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Red flags?
" "Too small a jump?
"What book did you publish, again?
Remind me of who you are once more, please.
Tell me of your important contributions to computing theory and the like.Eh?
I'm waiting...Red flags...sheesh.
You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420180</id>
	<title>Nice speed, but still decade olds interface.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268134020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm glad to see they are still coming out with bigger and better products.  However why bother.  Their interface (Ios command line) is decades old and has seen little improvements.  Take some of the ideas of Juniper of having (Commit Confirm... Show | display-set... Simple XML api interface)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:( @ Cisco<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm glad to see they are still coming out with bigger and better products .
However why bother .
Their interface ( Ios command line ) is decades old and has seen little improvements .
Take some of the ideas of Juniper of having ( Commit Confirm... Show | display-set... Simple XML api interface ) : ( @ Cisco : ( : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm glad to see they are still coming out with bigger and better products.
However why bother.
Their interface (Ios command line) is decades old and has seen little improvements.
Take some of the ideas of Juniper of having (Commit Confirm... Show | display-set... Simple XML api interface) :( @ Cisco :( :(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418428</id>
	<title>Re:jaded, who care?</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1268126400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suppose if your ISP got one of these you might find an improvement - especially if Google opens shop next door and wants to offer you a Gigabit connection to your house, your ISP might jump up to stay in competition.</p><p>And, just in case you weren't aware, there are cases where networking exists outside of the internet. True story!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose if your ISP got one of these you might find an improvement - especially if Google opens shop next door and wants to offer you a Gigabit connection to your house , your ISP might jump up to stay in competition.And , just in case you were n't aware , there are cases where networking exists outside of the internet .
True story !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose if your ISP got one of these you might find an improvement - especially if Google opens shop next door and wants to offer you a Gigabit connection to your house, your ISP might jump up to stay in competition.And, just in case you weren't aware, there are cases where networking exists outside of the internet.
True story!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418094</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419148</id>
	<title>Oh, I get the 90k number....</title>
	<author>Desmoden</author>
	<datestamp>1268129340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a subscription model. You pay them 90k/quarter and they keep bringing you their latest vaperware. Nice!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a subscription model .
You pay them 90k/quarter and they keep bringing you their latest vaperware .
Nice !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a subscription model.
You pay them 90k/quarter and they keep bringing you their latest vaperware.
Nice!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418716</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>bored\_lurker</author>
	<datestamp>1268127480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bet that is the cost of the shelf. I work in the industry and I can tell you we often use the Bic razor model of "giving away" the shelf / backplane and making margin on the cards.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet that is the cost of the shelf .
I work in the industry and I can tell you we often use the Bic razor model of " giving away " the shelf / backplane and making margin on the cards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet that is the cost of the shelf.
I work in the industry and I can tell you we often use the Bic razor model of "giving away" the shelf / backplane and making margin on the cards.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419122</id>
	<title>Re:Internet and Internet 2 is smoke in the US of A</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1268129220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It's still fucking 1996 in America.</p></div></blockquote><p>Then it's not too late to warn you: don't go see "The Matrix Reloaded" and "The Matrix Revolutions"!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's still fucking 1996 in America.Then it 's not too late to warn you : do n't go see " The Matrix Reloaded " and " The Matrix Revolutions " !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's still fucking 1996 in America.Then it's not too late to warn you: don't go see "The Matrix Reloaded" and "The Matrix Revolutions"!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418542</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31421766</id>
	<title>Imagine, too...</title>
	<author>Glock27</author>
	<datestamp>1268143620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>or give everyone in San Fransisco a 1Gbps internet connection</p></div><p>Or give everyone in San Fran<b>cisco</b> a 1 Gbps Internet connection!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>or give everyone in San Fransisco a 1Gbps internet connectionOr give everyone in San Francisco a 1 Gbps Internet connection !
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or give everyone in San Fransisco a 1Gbps internet connectionOr give everyone in San Francisco a 1 Gbps Internet connection!
:-)
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418940</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Congresses per second</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268128380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>its been 30 minutes already, its out of date. the CRS-4 does 4X as much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>its been 30 minutes already , its out of date .
the CRS-4 does 4X as much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>its been 30 minutes already, its out of date.
the CRS-4 does 4X as much.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420962</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268137920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looking at the Detailed Specs link, it says:</p><p>"More than triples capacity from 1.28 Tbps to 4.48 Tbps per shelf on existing power, cooling, and rack-space profile, significantly reducing carbon footprint.</p><p>Fully redundant carrier-class configuration supports in-service upgrades from 40 Gbps per slot to 140 Gbps per slot, and from a single-chassis to a multi-chassis system."</p><p>Given that it's a 16 slot system, I fail to see how 16 * 140 Gbps = 4.48 Tbps, can someone help me with the maths?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking at the Detailed Specs link , it says : " More than triples capacity from 1.28 Tbps to 4.48 Tbps per shelf on existing power , cooling , and rack-space profile , significantly reducing carbon footprint.Fully redundant carrier-class configuration supports in-service upgrades from 40 Gbps per slot to 140 Gbps per slot , and from a single-chassis to a multi-chassis system .
" Given that it 's a 16 slot system , I fail to see how 16 * 140 Gbps = 4.48 Tbps , can someone help me with the maths ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking at the Detailed Specs link, it says:"More than triples capacity from 1.28 Tbps to 4.48 Tbps per shelf on existing power, cooling, and rack-space profile, significantly reducing carbon footprint.Fully redundant carrier-class configuration supports in-service upgrades from 40 Gbps per slot to 140 Gbps per slot, and from a single-chassis to a multi-chassis system.
"Given that it's a 16 slot system, I fail to see how 16 * 140 Gbps = 4.48 Tbps, can someone help me with the maths?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418742</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31424336</id>
	<title>How much?</title>
	<author>GNUPublicLicense</author>
	<datestamp>1268219100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How much for this regional router?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
I bet diffserv/IPv6 label, then traffic classes, are properly supported. At last death for the POTS?

Now: I have roughtly 1Mb/s upload link... with FTTH I will have 50 Mb/s then 200 Mb/s (like in Japan).
That means 50 times and then 200 times...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D

Who said personal cloud?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much for this regional router ?
: ) I bet diffserv/IPv6 label , then traffic classes , are properly supported .
At last death for the POTS ?
Now : I have roughtly 1Mb/s upload link... with FTTH I will have 50 Mb/s then 200 Mb/s ( like in Japan ) .
That means 50 times and then 200 times... : D Who said personal cloud ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much for this regional router?
:)
I bet diffserv/IPv6 label, then traffic classes, are properly supported.
At last death for the POTS?
Now: I have roughtly 1Mb/s upload link... with FTTH I will have 50 Mb/s then 200 Mb/s (like in Japan).
That means 50 times and then 200 times... :D

Who said personal cloud?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423958</id>
	<title>Sure they can</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1268213040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We'll they can't complain now that there isn't enough bandwidth so they have to meter it now.</p></div><p>Sure they can.  It'd just be lying.  Dishonest.  Factually incorrect.</p><p>But hey, they can accept $200 billion of they taxpayers' money, promising to deliver broadband internet everywhere and then not deliver on that promise.  In my mind, that's equivalent to stealing ~$650 from every citizen.</p><p>So they have the moral to steal, but they're not going to lie.  Riiiight...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 'll they ca n't complain now that there is n't enough bandwidth so they have to meter it now.Sure they can .
It 'd just be lying .
Dishonest. Factually incorrect.But hey , they can accept $ 200 billion of they taxpayers ' money , promising to deliver broadband internet everywhere and then not deliver on that promise .
In my mind , that 's equivalent to stealing ~ $ 650 from every citizen.So they have the moral to steal , but they 're not going to lie .
Riiiight.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We'll they can't complain now that there isn't enough bandwidth so they have to meter it now.Sure they can.
It'd just be lying.
Dishonest.  Factually incorrect.But hey, they can accept $200 billion of they taxpayers' money, promising to deliver broadband internet everywhere and then not deliver on that promise.
In my mind, that's equivalent to stealing ~$650 from every citizen.So they have the moral to steal, but they're not going to lie.
Riiiight...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418306</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31421776</id>
	<title>What cool stuff are you doing with your bandwidth?</title>
	<author>billstewart</author>
	<datestamp>1268143740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're going to gripe about the low Internet speeds we've got in the US, tell me what cool stuff you want to do with it, or what cool stuff the Japanese, Koreans, and Swedes are doing with theirs!  </p><p>Other than running P2P file sharing faster, <b>the big applications I keep hearing about for faster-than-3Mbs internet are Television and downloading movies from Internet TV competitors.   ZZZZZ </b> unless you like that sort of passive entertainment; you're basically just displacing the transport vendor selling you the same old material.  It may let you negotiate lower prices for your TV, but it's still 500+ channels and nothing's on, except that it looks a bit better in 1080p.  </p><p>Gaming?  That's a job for low-latency sub-megabit bandwidth.  At least the canonical <i>Old People in Korea</i> can see the specials at the local grocery store on video.   Video Skype?  Still doesn't need a lot of bandwidth, though it's better than video over 14.4kbps modems was.  </p><p>Back in the Dark Ages, the @Home cable modem folks had two different opinions about Napster - the PR Droids would rant about Evil Content Thieves, but the engineers (and even most of the managers, if you asked them unofficially) would say "Duh, the reason people are buying broadband is to run Napster!  Go Piracy!"  But these day I can download most content far faster than I can watch it all.  <b>Go build something interesting so we need more bandwidth!</b></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're going to gripe about the low Internet speeds we 've got in the US , tell me what cool stuff you want to do with it , or what cool stuff the Japanese , Koreans , and Swedes are doing with theirs !
Other than running P2P file sharing faster , the big applications I keep hearing about for faster-than-3Mbs internet are Television and downloading movies from Internet TV competitors .
ZZZZZ unless you like that sort of passive entertainment ; you 're basically just displacing the transport vendor selling you the same old material .
It may let you negotiate lower prices for your TV , but it 's still 500 + channels and nothing 's on , except that it looks a bit better in 1080p .
Gaming ? That 's a job for low-latency sub-megabit bandwidth .
At least the canonical Old People in Korea can see the specials at the local grocery store on video .
Video Skype ?
Still does n't need a lot of bandwidth , though it 's better than video over 14.4kbps modems was .
Back in the Dark Ages , the @ Home cable modem folks had two different opinions about Napster - the PR Droids would rant about Evil Content Thieves , but the engineers ( and even most of the managers , if you asked them unofficially ) would say " Duh , the reason people are buying broadband is to run Napster !
Go Piracy !
" But these day I can download most content far faster than I can watch it all .
Go build something interesting so we need more bandwidth !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're going to gripe about the low Internet speeds we've got in the US, tell me what cool stuff you want to do with it, or what cool stuff the Japanese, Koreans, and Swedes are doing with theirs!
Other than running P2P file sharing faster, the big applications I keep hearing about for faster-than-3Mbs internet are Television and downloading movies from Internet TV competitors.
ZZZZZ  unless you like that sort of passive entertainment; you're basically just displacing the transport vendor selling you the same old material.
It may let you negotiate lower prices for your TV, but it's still 500+ channels and nothing's on, except that it looks a bit better in 1080p.
Gaming?  That's a job for low-latency sub-megabit bandwidth.
At least the canonical Old People in Korea can see the specials at the local grocery store on video.
Video Skype?
Still doesn't need a lot of bandwidth, though it's better than video over 14.4kbps modems was.
Back in the Dark Ages, the @Home cable modem folks had two different opinions about Napster - the PR Droids would rant about Evil Content Thieves, but the engineers (and even most of the managers, if you asked them unofficially) would say "Duh, the reason people are buying broadband is to run Napster!
Go Piracy!
"  But these day I can download most content far faster than I can watch it all.
Go build something interesting so we need more bandwidth!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419400</id>
	<title>Re:Cables?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The limit of fiber cable is insanely high. Read up on DWDM.</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength-division\_multiplexing#Dense\_WDM</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The limit of fiber cable is insanely high .
Read up on DWDM.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength-division \ _multiplexing # Dense \ _WDM</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The limit of fiber cable is insanely high.
Read up on DWDM.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength-division\_multiplexing#Dense\_WDM</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418114</id>
	<title>...ahem</title>
	<author>Trupix</author>
	<datestamp>1268168160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>But Can it Run Crysis?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>But Can it Run Crysis ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But Can it Run Crysis?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31425894</id>
	<title>Re:Internet and Internet 2 is smoke in the US of A</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268235480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quite frankly, I think that my video card would probably make the TRON MCP break down and cry so that's not really much of a metric to go by.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite frankly , I think that my video card would probably make the TRON MCP break down and cry so that 's not really much of a metric to go by .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite frankly, I think that my video card would probably make the TRON MCP break down and cry so that's not really much of a metric to go by.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418960</id>
	<title>I wonder how long it will take</title>
	<author>zogger</author>
	<datestamp>1268128560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how long it will take to start seeing some $900 Sisqqo knock offs?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how long it will take to start seeing some $ 900 Sisqqo knock offs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how long it will take to start seeing some $900 Sisqqo knock offs?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420326</id>
	<title>Don't be silly, Cisco wants it both ways!</title>
	<author>swb</author>
	<datestamp>1268134560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cisco wants it both ways.</p><p>They want to sell "bandwidth expansion solutions" to the parts of the business that actually want more bandwidth available.</p><p>They will then turn around and sell "bandwidth constraining" solutions to the parts of the business that don't.</p><p>It's just like John Chamber's &amp; Cisco -- stand in front of Congress demanding their corporate constitutional right to influence American politicians in the name of freedom, while at the same time selling products to the Communist Chinese to enable censorship and repression.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cisco wants it both ways.They want to sell " bandwidth expansion solutions " to the parts of the business that actually want more bandwidth available.They will then turn around and sell " bandwidth constraining " solutions to the parts of the business that do n't.It 's just like John Chamber 's &amp; Cisco -- stand in front of Congress demanding their corporate constitutional right to influence American politicians in the name of freedom , while at the same time selling products to the Communist Chinese to enable censorship and repression .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cisco wants it both ways.They want to sell "bandwidth expansion solutions" to the parts of the business that actually want more bandwidth available.They will then turn around and sell "bandwidth constraining" solutions to the parts of the business that don't.It's just like John Chamber's &amp; Cisco -- stand in front of Congress demanding their corporate constitutional right to influence American politicians in the name of freedom, while at the same time selling products to the Communist Chinese to enable censorship and repression.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418306</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31426208</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind - DPI</title>
	<author>Bender0x7D1</author>
	<datestamp>1268236860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>or if such massive hardware is going to sell more as a very fast deep packet inspection layer 7 device.</i> </p><p>There is no way they would be able to do deep packet inspection at those kinds of speeds.  Just think about a 1TB hard drive.  Now imagine 300 of them.  Now, you want to inspect all that data in 1 second.  It's just not going to happen.  That's why it's listed as a core router - it's job is to move a LOT of data as fast as possible.  In fact, other routers do extra work to reduce the processing done by the core routers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>or if such massive hardware is going to sell more as a very fast deep packet inspection layer 7 device .
There is no way they would be able to do deep packet inspection at those kinds of speeds .
Just think about a 1TB hard drive .
Now imagine 300 of them .
Now , you want to inspect all that data in 1 second .
It 's just not going to happen .
That 's why it 's listed as a core router - it 's job is to move a LOT of data as fast as possible .
In fact , other routers do extra work to reduce the processing done by the core routers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> or if such massive hardware is going to sell more as a very fast deep packet inspection layer 7 device.
There is no way they would be able to do deep packet inspection at those kinds of speeds.
Just think about a 1TB hard drive.
Now imagine 300 of them.
Now, you want to inspect all that data in 1 second.
It's just not going to happen.
That's why it's listed as a core router - it's job is to move a LOT of data as fast as possible.
In fact, other routers do extra work to reduce the processing done by the core routers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420040</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420924</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Congresses per second</title>
	<author>A nonymous Coward</author>
	<datestamp>1268137620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>LoC for starters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>LoC for starters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LoC for starters.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417998</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420550</id>
	<title>Re:Cables?</title>
	<author>TheSync</author>
	<datestamp>1268135700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>What is the limit of a fibre cable?</i></p><p>Alcatel-Lucent demonstrated <a href="http://www2.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&amp;STORY=/www/story/03-28-2007/0004554820&amp;EDATE" title="prnewswire.com">25.6 Terabit/s</a> [prnewswire.com] in 2007 using 160 Wavelength-Division Multiplexed channels of 160 Gbps each.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is the limit of a fibre cable ? Alcatel-Lucent demonstrated 25.6 Terabit/s [ prnewswire.com ] in 2007 using 160 Wavelength-Division Multiplexed channels of 160 Gbps each .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is the limit of a fibre cable?Alcatel-Lucent demonstrated 25.6 Terabit/s [prnewswire.com] in 2007 using 160 Wavelength-Division Multiplexed channels of 160 Gbps each.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418928</id>
	<title>Re:Internet and Internet 2 is smoke in the US of A</title>
	<author>Em Emalb</author>
	<datestamp>1268128320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Excellent rant...too bad it's misplaced.  This device is for internet connectivity at the ISP level, not at the consumer level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Excellent rant...too bad it 's misplaced .
This device is for internet connectivity at the ISP level , not at the consumer level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excellent rant...too bad it's misplaced.
This device is for internet connectivity at the ISP level, not at the consumer level.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418542</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418812</id>
	<title>Re:Geek Porn</title>
	<author>TheUni</author>
	<datestamp>1268127840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm pretty sure those were just the mockups. Here's the real thing: <a href="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/04/screen-grabs-linksys-internet.jpg" title="blogcdn.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/04/screen-grabs-linksys-internet.jpg</a> [blogcdn.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure those were just the mockups .
Here 's the real thing : http : //www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/04/screen-grabs-linksys-internet.jpg [ blogcdn.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure those were just the mockups.
Here's the real thing: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/04/screen-grabs-linksys-internet.jpg [blogcdn.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418720</id>
	<title>Re:The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>amn108</author>
	<datestamp>1268127480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the kind of world we live in (which "we make ourselves") it wouldn't surprise me if one had to pay per unit of bandwidth transferred by the router.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:|</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the kind of world we live in ( which " we make ourselves " ) it would n't surprise me if one had to pay per unit of bandwidth transferred by the router .
: |</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the kind of world we live in (which "we make ourselves") it wouldn't surprise me if one had to pay per unit of bandwidth transferred by the router.
:|</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418058</id>
	<title>322 Tbits/sec</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268168040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> ought to be enough for everyone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ought to be enough for everyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ought to be enough for everyone.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418994</id>
	<title>interestingly, slashdot trolls unusually quite...</title>
	<author>DomHawken</author>
	<datestamp>1268128680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>$90,000 ~= $90 within two years. The usual pr0n and torrent jibes aside, this is a really cool development. The spec of the routers you run on your local/company networks (and mine are already stretched), are the same spec as the routers you will be running on the front-end of your incoming net feeds in a year or two. Props to Cisco and their investment and resulting product.

Obviously Logitech will release a version based on open-source code in the near future which we can tweak to our own requirements, but heck - this is the Internet..</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 90,000 ~ = $ 90 within two years .
The usual pr0n and torrent jibes aside , this is a really cool development .
The spec of the routers you run on your local/company networks ( and mine are already stretched ) , are the same spec as the routers you will be running on the front-end of your incoming net feeds in a year or two .
Props to Cisco and their investment and resulting product .
Obviously Logitech will release a version based on open-source code in the near future which we can tweak to our own requirements , but heck - this is the Internet. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$90,000 ~= $90 within two years.
The usual pr0n and torrent jibes aside, this is a really cool development.
The spec of the routers you run on your local/company networks (and mine are already stretched), are the same spec as the routers you will be running on the front-end of your incoming net feeds in a year or two.
Props to Cisco and their investment and resulting product.
Obviously Logitech will release a version based on open-source code in the near future which we can tweak to our own requirements, but heck - this is the Internet..</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418442</id>
	<title>Surveillance!</title>
	<author>gknoy</author>
	<datestamp>1268126400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imagine how much traffic could be routed to collection clusters on behalf of your favourite three letter agency.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine how much traffic could be routed to collection clusters on behalf of your favourite three letter agency .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine how much traffic could be routed to collection clusters on behalf of your favourite three letter agency.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418692</id>
	<title>Re:When do we consumers benefit?</title>
	<author>2obvious4u</author>
	<datestamp>1268127420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Start your own fiber bandwidth company.  The most expensive cost will probably be the right of way to run the cables.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Start your own fiber bandwidth company .
The most expensive cost will probably be the right of way to run the cables .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Start your own fiber bandwidth company.
The most expensive cost will probably be the right of way to run the cables.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31423396</id>
	<title>Re:Internet and Internet 2 is smoke in the US of A</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268161140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are you talking about? Comcast has 12mbit cable for like 60 a month. It's stand-alone, too. I'm even on a deal where it's 25 a month for the first 6 months. Even in Ellensburg we had 6-12 mbit cable depending on what we wanted to spend.</p><p>I don't know where you live but you're really not speaking for the rest of the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you talking about ?
Comcast has 12mbit cable for like 60 a month .
It 's stand-alone , too .
I 'm even on a deal where it 's 25 a month for the first 6 months .
Even in Ellensburg we had 6-12 mbit cable depending on what we wanted to spend.I do n't know where you live but you 're really not speaking for the rest of the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you talking about?
Comcast has 12mbit cable for like 60 a month.
It's stand-alone, too.
I'm even on a deal where it's 25 a month for the first 6 months.
Even in Ellensburg we had 6-12 mbit cable depending on what we wanted to spend.I don't know where you live but you're really not speaking for the rest of the US.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418542</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31420560</id>
	<title>Re:Awesome router</title>
	<author>ChiRaven</author>
	<datestamp>1268135760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But can I overclock it for gaming?</htmltext>
<tokenext>But can I overclock it for gaming ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But can I overclock it for gaming?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31419096</id>
	<title>Re:Will it run DDWRT or Tomato?</title>
	<author>ryantmer</author>
	<datestamp>1268129100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yep, because idiots think their linux nat appliances are routers just because they use them in an 'office', and those of us who've worked in telecom laugh at them decisively.</p></div><p>Yep, and ACs who cannot use English properly like to use big words incorrectly, and those of us who know what "decisively" means laugh at them derisively.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , because idiots think their linux nat appliances are routers just because they use them in an 'office ' , and those of us who 've worked in telecom laugh at them decisively.Yep , and ACs who can not use English properly like to use big words incorrectly , and those of us who know what " decisively " means laugh at them derisively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, because idiots think their linux nat appliances are routers just because they use them in an 'office', and those of us who've worked in telecom laugh at them decisively.Yep, and ACs who cannot use English properly like to use big words incorrectly, and those of us who know what "decisively" means laugh at them derisively.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417990</id>
	<title>The question on everyone's mind</title>
	<author>Jeremy Erwin</author>
	<datestamp>1268167800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MSRP starts at $90,000. <a href="http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod\_030910.html" title="cisco.com">source</a> [cisco.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MSRP starts at $ 90,000 .
source [ cisco.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MSRP starts at $90,000.
source [cisco.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418068</id>
	<title>Re:Will it run DDWRT or Tomato?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268168100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will It Blend?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will It Blend ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will It Blend?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31417942</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_197226.31418740</id>
	<title>Big wow</title>
	<author>Jawn98685</author>
	<datestamp>1268127540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cisco built a bigger, faster router.<br>
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along. Move along. Just Cisco marketing engaging their HYPErdrive by claiming to "...change the Internet forever..." and other HYPErbolic phraseology.
<br> <br>
Please...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cisco built a bigger , faster router .
Nothing to see here , folks .
Move along .
Move along .
Just Cisco marketing engaging their HYPErdrive by claiming to " ...change the Internet forever... " and other HYPErbolic phraseology .
Please.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cisco built a bigger, faster router.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Move along.
Move along.
Just Cisco marketing engaging their HYPErdrive by claiming to "...change the Internet forever..." and other HYPErbolic phraseology.
Please...</sentencetext>
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