<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_04_214249</id>
	<title>Throttle Shared Users With OS X &mdash; Is It Possible?</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1267693860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>whisper\_jeff writes <i>"I work in a design studio where the production director is also the owner's son (translation = he can do no wrong). He is fond of accessing a designer's computer via filesharing and working directly on files off of the designer's computers rather than transferring the files to his computer to work on them there. In so doing, he causes the designer's computer to grind to a near-halt as the harddrive is now tasked with his open/save requests along with whatever the designer is doing. Given that there is no way he's going to change his ways (since he doesn't see anything wrong with it...), I was wondering if there was a way to throttle a user's shared access to a computer (Mac OSX 10.5.8) so that his remote working would have minimal impact on our work. Google searches have revealed nothing helpful (maybe I should Bing it... :) so I was hoping someone with more technical expertise on Slashdot could offer a suggestion."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>whisper \ _jeff writes " I work in a design studio where the production director is also the owner 's son ( translation = he can do no wrong ) .
He is fond of accessing a designer 's computer via filesharing and working directly on files off of the designer 's computers rather than transferring the files to his computer to work on them there .
In so doing , he causes the designer 's computer to grind to a near-halt as the harddrive is now tasked with his open/save requests along with whatever the designer is doing .
Given that there is no way he 's going to change his ways ( since he does n't see anything wrong with it... ) , I was wondering if there was a way to throttle a user 's shared access to a computer ( Mac OSX 10.5.8 ) so that his remote working would have minimal impact on our work .
Google searches have revealed nothing helpful ( maybe I should Bing it... : ) so I was hoping someone with more technical expertise on Slashdot could offer a suggestion .
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<sentencetext>whisper\_jeff writes "I work in a design studio where the production director is also the owner's son (translation = he can do no wrong).
He is fond of accessing a designer's computer via filesharing and working directly on files off of the designer's computers rather than transferring the files to his computer to work on them there.
In so doing, he causes the designer's computer to grind to a near-halt as the harddrive is now tasked with his open/save requests along with whatever the designer is doing.
Given that there is no way he's going to change his ways (since he doesn't see anything wrong with it...), I was wondering if there was a way to throttle a user's shared access to a computer (Mac OSX 10.5.8) so that his remote working would have minimal impact on our work.
Google searches have revealed nothing helpful (maybe I should Bing it... :) so I was hoping someone with more technical expertise on Slashdot could offer a suggestion.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363618</id>
	<title>Migrate to Snow Leopard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267701180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Snow Leopard uses an improved system of mutex locks, making mutex waits much less frequent than under Leopard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Snow Leopard uses an improved system of mutex locks , making mutex waits much less frequent than under Leopard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Snow Leopard uses an improved system of mutex locks, making mutex waits much less frequent than under Leopard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31376106</id>
	<title>The intelligence PARADOX of this question ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267786500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a LIST of share users available in OS X where you can ANYTHING YOU WANT TO YOUR ACTIVE SHARE USERs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>http://www.cit.cornell.edu/security/howto/filesharingmac10\_5.cfm#limit</p><p>Now considering that you had to ask this question when the answer is simple and straight forward Mac user stuff<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I MUST beg the question, WHO is the DUMMY here<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... YOU or the BOSSES SON ?!?!?!?!?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a LIST of share users available in OS X where you can ANYTHING YOU WANT TO YOUR ACTIVE SHARE USERs ...http : //www.cit.cornell.edu/security/howto/filesharingmac10 \ _5.cfm # limitNow considering that you had to ask this question when the answer is simple and straight forward Mac user stuff ... ... I MUST beg the question , WHO is the DUMMY here ... ... YOU or the BOSSES SON ? ! ? ! ? ! ? ! ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a LIST of share users available in OS X where you can ANYTHING YOU WANT TO YOUR ACTIVE SHARE USERs ...http://www.cit.cornell.edu/security/howto/filesharingmac10\_5.cfm#limitNow considering that you had to ask this question when the answer is simple and straight forward Mac user stuff ... ... I MUST beg the question, WHO is the DUMMY here ... ... YOU or the BOSSES SON ?!?!?!?!?
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363958</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267702860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have all the designers use his computer as a file share and store the assets there, then work off HIS computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have all the designers use his computer as a file share and store the assets there , then work off HIS computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have all the designers use his computer as a file share and store the assets there, then work off HIS computer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363008</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1267698720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even better would be some kind of document management system.<br>You create a folder for each job and everybody checks the file in and out to work on it. You can even keep older versions and revert if somebody blows it.<br>You would also have a single machine to backup all your critical data.</p><p>That would seem to be the ideal solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even better would be some kind of document management system.You create a folder for each job and everybody checks the file in and out to work on it .
You can even keep older versions and revert if somebody blows it.You would also have a single machine to backup all your critical data.That would seem to be the ideal solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even better would be some kind of document management system.You create a folder for each job and everybody checks the file in and out to work on it.
You can even keep older versions and revert if somebody blows it.You would also have a single machine to backup all your critical data.That would seem to be the ideal solution.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364144</id>
	<title>Re:be nice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267703640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This option probably actually gets everyone what they are looking for.  As the local machine will reprioritize things.  The brat gets what he wants.  You get what you want and people can still use the computers.</p><p>Honestly this is the best suggestion so far<br><a href="http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1571714&amp;cid=31363026" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1571714&amp;cid=31363026</a> [slashdot.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This option probably actually gets everyone what they are looking for .
As the local machine will reprioritize things .
The brat gets what he wants .
You get what you want and people can still use the computers.Honestly this is the best suggestion so farhttp : //ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1571714&amp;cid = 31363026 [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This option probably actually gets everyone what they are looking for.
As the local machine will reprioritize things.
The brat gets what he wants.
You get what you want and people can still use the computers.Honestly this is the best suggestion so farhttp://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1571714&amp;cid=31363026 [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363210</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363488</id>
	<title>Use NoobProof</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267700640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Install NoobProof.  You can limit incoming bandwidth easily by custom port number.  It does the same thing as manually editing the IPFW, but in a more user-friendly GUI sort of way.</p><p>Also, if the nub is sharing with anything but AFP, there's going to be a severe hit on performance on any Mac.  Samba sharing on the Mac has significant overhead as compared to AFP.</p><p>Could also be that he's hitting the "server" Mac's HDD I/O limit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Install NoobProof .
You can limit incoming bandwidth easily by custom port number .
It does the same thing as manually editing the IPFW , but in a more user-friendly GUI sort of way.Also , if the nub is sharing with anything but AFP , there 's going to be a severe hit on performance on any Mac .
Samba sharing on the Mac has significant overhead as compared to AFP.Could also be that he 's hitting the " server " Mac 's HDD I/O limit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Install NoobProof.
You can limit incoming bandwidth easily by custom port number.
It does the same thing as manually editing the IPFW, but in a more user-friendly GUI sort of way.Also, if the nub is sharing with anything but AFP, there's going to be a severe hit on performance on any Mac.
Samba sharing on the Mac has significant overhead as compared to AFP.Could also be that he's hitting the "server" Mac's HDD I/O limit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31368278</id>
	<title>Unplug the network cable</title>
	<author>GWBasic</author>
	<datestamp>1267821000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unplug the network cable</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unplug the network cable</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unplug the network cable</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363728</id>
	<title>Re:IPFW should work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267701780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mod parent up. Assuming that the main guy has sudo access to his machine this would work very well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod parent up .
Assuming that the main guy has sudo access to his machine this would work very well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod parent up.
Assuming that the main guy has sudo access to his machine this would work very well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362800</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364634</id>
	<title>Money talks</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1267705620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Explain to the boss that his son's behavior is slowing down the employees, making them more expensive (i.e. it takes more time to do a job).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Explain to the boss that his son 's behavior is slowing down the employees , making them more expensive ( i.e .
it takes more time to do a job ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Explain to the boss that his son's behavior is slowing down the employees, making them more expensive (i.e.
it takes more time to do a job).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364620</id>
	<title>Re:Throttle the port.</title>
	<author>NatasRevol</author>
	<datestamp>1267705620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently, you didn't read down to where some commenters say it didn't work for AFP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently , you did n't read down to where some commenters say it did n't work for AFP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently, you didn't read down to where some commenters say it didn't work for AFP.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363152</id>
	<title>wrong*2==right</title>
	<author>gandhi\_2</author>
	<datestamp>1267699200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>plant some weed in his desk and call the cops anon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>plant some weed in his desk and call the cops anon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>plant some weed in his desk and call the cops anon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363714</id>
	<title>I'd go with the direct approach</title>
	<author>dieth</author>
	<datestamp>1267701720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tell the guy he's a fucking idiot who's wasting CPU time by doing such a retarded thing.
Take his computer away until he promises to behave and when he whines to daddy explain that the Artists are unable to do their job while dipshit is accessing their computer for his fun.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell the guy he 's a fucking idiot who 's wasting CPU time by doing such a retarded thing .
Take his computer away until he promises to behave and when he whines to daddy explain that the Artists are unable to do their job while dipshit is accessing their computer for his fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell the guy he's a fucking idiot who's wasting CPU time by doing such a retarded thing.
Take his computer away until he promises to behave and when he whines to daddy explain that the Artists are unable to do their job while dipshit is accessing their computer for his fun.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31370316</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>kainewynd2</author>
	<datestamp>1267801140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My God... someone posts a full out technical question on Slashdot and all he can get in response are bull posts like the guy above telling him he's doing it wrong?  It's time to hand in your geek card... </p><p>Incidentally, the original poster should send this question to the <a href="http://www.macenterprise.org/" title="macenterprise.org" rel="nofollow">MacEnterprise</a> [macenterprise.org] mailing lists instead of Slashdot... they'll probably get a better response.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My God... someone posts a full out technical question on Slashdot and all he can get in response are bull posts like the guy above telling him he 's doing it wrong ?
It 's time to hand in your geek card... Incidentally , the original poster should send this question to the MacEnterprise [ macenterprise.org ] mailing lists instead of Slashdot... they 'll probably get a better response .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My God... someone posts a full out technical question on Slashdot and all he can get in response are bull posts like the guy above telling him he's doing it wrong?
It's time to hand in your geek card... Incidentally, the original poster should send this question to the MacEnterprise [macenterprise.org] mailing lists instead of Slashdot... they'll probably get a better response.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31366584</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, What?</title>
	<author>sl3xd</author>
	<datestamp>1267719360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I feel sorry for your network.  Seriously.  Every new PC I've looked at recently (outside of netbooks) has gigabit ethernet built-in.  <i>Every</i> new mac (excluding the MacBook Air) has gigabit ethernet (even the Apple TV has gigabit ethernet).  Even a cheap $30 netgear gigabit switch can get nearly theoretical peak speeds on all ports simultaneously (I've tortured a many in the past) - note this is not a one-to-many saturation; it was four individual one-to-one links, each pushing around 980 Mbit/sec over the 8-port switch, simultaneously.</p><p>So I guess it depends on what you consider a 'ridiculously fast network'.  A gigabit wired network for eight machines can be had for less than $60 these days.</p><p>Another point:  Just because the SATA interface is capable of transferring data faster than the network (only 3x the speed, though), it by no means the disk can actually transfer the data at the speed of the interface -- even under ideal conditions (linear read of large, contiguous files).  The thing the 'faster' SATA interface buys you is when you're hitting the disk's 8-16MB RAM cache.</p><p>Gigabit can transfer ~100 MB/sec.  Most disks can sustain around 50 MB/sec or so, usually less.  I daily thrash the disks on a $10k SAN with 15k RPM disks using nothing more than NFS and gigabit ethernet.  The network is <i>still</i> faster than that disk array - and that's with new and fairly expensive disk hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I feel sorry for your network .
Seriously. Every new PC I 've looked at recently ( outside of netbooks ) has gigabit ethernet built-in .
Every new mac ( excluding the MacBook Air ) has gigabit ethernet ( even the Apple TV has gigabit ethernet ) .
Even a cheap $ 30 netgear gigabit switch can get nearly theoretical peak speeds on all ports simultaneously ( I 've tortured a many in the past ) - note this is not a one-to-many saturation ; it was four individual one-to-one links , each pushing around 980 Mbit/sec over the 8-port switch , simultaneously.So I guess it depends on what you consider a 'ridiculously fast network' .
A gigabit wired network for eight machines can be had for less than $ 60 these days.Another point : Just because the SATA interface is capable of transferring data faster than the network ( only 3x the speed , though ) , it by no means the disk can actually transfer the data at the speed of the interface -- even under ideal conditions ( linear read of large , contiguous files ) .
The thing the 'faster ' SATA interface buys you is when you 're hitting the disk 's 8-16MB RAM cache.Gigabit can transfer ~ 100 MB/sec .
Most disks can sustain around 50 MB/sec or so , usually less .
I daily thrash the disks on a $ 10k SAN with 15k RPM disks using nothing more than NFS and gigabit ethernet .
The network is still faster than that disk array - and that 's with new and fairly expensive disk hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I feel sorry for your network.
Seriously.  Every new PC I've looked at recently (outside of netbooks) has gigabit ethernet built-in.
Every new mac (excluding the MacBook Air) has gigabit ethernet (even the Apple TV has gigabit ethernet).
Even a cheap $30 netgear gigabit switch can get nearly theoretical peak speeds on all ports simultaneously (I've tortured a many in the past) - note this is not a one-to-many saturation; it was four individual one-to-one links, each pushing around 980 Mbit/sec over the 8-port switch, simultaneously.So I guess it depends on what you consider a 'ridiculously fast network'.
A gigabit wired network for eight machines can be had for less than $60 these days.Another point:  Just because the SATA interface is capable of transferring data faster than the network (only 3x the speed, though), it by no means the disk can actually transfer the data at the speed of the interface -- even under ideal conditions (linear read of large, contiguous files).
The thing the 'faster' SATA interface buys you is when you're hitting the disk's 8-16MB RAM cache.Gigabit can transfer ~100 MB/sec.
Most disks can sustain around 50 MB/sec or so, usually less.
I daily thrash the disks on a $10k SAN with 15k RPM disks using nothing more than NFS and gigabit ethernet.
The network is still faster than that disk array - and that's with new and fairly expensive disk hardware.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362822</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31369220</id>
	<title>Second Hard Drive</title>
	<author>theolein</author>
	<datestamp>1267789980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It looks like the boss's son isn't using the same files the designer is using, so there may be another solution.</p><p>Get a second hard drive, if the machine is a Mac Pro, or an external HD if the machine is an iMac or Mac Book Pro. Put all the files there. Share it over the net with AFP/SMB etc Let the boss' son work from that drive and the designer from the internal drive. The designer can copy the files over to his internal drive and copy them back to the second drive when he's finished, since he seems to have more discipline than the boss' son. It's like a small file server.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like the boss 's son is n't using the same files the designer is using , so there may be another solution.Get a second hard drive , if the machine is a Mac Pro , or an external HD if the machine is an iMac or Mac Book Pro .
Put all the files there .
Share it over the net with AFP/SMB etc Let the boss ' son work from that drive and the designer from the internal drive .
The designer can copy the files over to his internal drive and copy them back to the second drive when he 's finished , since he seems to have more discipline than the boss ' son .
It 's like a small file server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like the boss's son isn't using the same files the designer is using, so there may be another solution.Get a second hard drive, if the machine is a Mac Pro, or an external HD if the machine is an iMac or Mac Book Pro.
Put all the files there.
Share it over the net with AFP/SMB etc Let the boss' son work from that drive and the designer from the internal drive.
The designer can copy the files over to his internal drive and copy them back to the second drive when he's finished, since he seems to have more discipline than the boss' son.
It's like a small file server.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362962</id>
	<title>osx advanced networking is cumbersome/incomplete</title>
	<author>digitalsushi</author>
	<datestamp>1267698540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After trying to convert my linux v4 nat firewall with bucket traffic shaping, I wanted to see how readily I could convert it to os x.  I realized, after about 50\% success, that if it's not part of the GUI, apple is basically not endorsing it.  This was on their server version, mind you.  I haven't tried anything with the client, which was less feature complete but more stable.</p><p>Anyways, there's plenty of other ways of solving it.  And I tried it 9 or 10 months ago, so if someone can prove me wrong then they should deserve some appreciation around here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After trying to convert my linux v4 nat firewall with bucket traffic shaping , I wanted to see how readily I could convert it to os x. I realized , after about 50 \ % success , that if it 's not part of the GUI , apple is basically not endorsing it .
This was on their server version , mind you .
I have n't tried anything with the client , which was less feature complete but more stable.Anyways , there 's plenty of other ways of solving it .
And I tried it 9 or 10 months ago , so if someone can prove me wrong then they should deserve some appreciation around here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After trying to convert my linux v4 nat firewall with bucket traffic shaping, I wanted to see how readily I could convert it to os x.  I realized, after about 50\% success, that if it's not part of the GUI, apple is basically not endorsing it.
This was on their server version, mind you.
I haven't tried anything with the client, which was less feature complete but more stable.Anyways, there's plenty of other ways of solving it.
And I tried it 9 or 10 months ago, so if someone can prove me wrong then they should deserve some appreciation around here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31368904</id>
	<title>SATA sucks</title>
	<author>Lost Penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1267786260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do that SCSI thing....<br><br>Seriously, SATA drives (and the older IDE they are based on) do not perform more than one function at a time.<br>SAS or SCSI is still the way to go for speed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do that SCSI thing....Seriously , SATA drives ( and the older IDE they are based on ) do not perform more than one function at a time.SAS or SCSI is still the way to go for speed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do that SCSI thing....Seriously, SATA drives (and the older IDE they are based on) do not perform more than one function at a time.SAS or SCSI is still the way to go for speed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362800</id>
	<title>IPFW should work</title>
	<author>AngusH</author>
	<datestamp>1267698060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try using the advice in this tip:

<a href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736" title="macosxhints.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736</a> [macosxhints.com]

which demonstrates bandwidth throttling by port number<br>

but add a rule that limits by ip address as well as port number <br>

see <a href="http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/ipfw.8.html" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/ipfw.8.html</a> [apple.com]

for details of the ipfw rules<br>

I haven't tried this combination myself but I can't see why it wouldn't work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try using the advice in this tip : http : //www.macosxhints.com/article.php ? story = 20080119112509736 [ macosxhints.com ] which demonstrates bandwidth throttling by port number but add a rule that limits by ip address as well as port number see http : //developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/ipfw.8.html [ apple.com ] for details of the ipfw rules I have n't tried this combination myself but I ca n't see why it would n't work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try using the advice in this tip:

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736 [macosxhints.com]

which demonstrates bandwidth throttling by port number

but add a rule that limits by ip address as well as port number 

see http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/ipfw.8.html [apple.com]

for details of the ipfw rules

I haven't tried this combination myself but I can't see why it wouldn't work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31365226</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267708800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make sure to do it at least 3 times though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make sure to do it at least 3 times though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make sure to do it at least 3 times though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363186</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like info is missing, but here goes</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1267699320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Self replies are bad, yada yada<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>The more I read the original post the more I think that slashdot has turned into a generic 'ask about your computer problems' forum than news for nerds.</p><p>This question appears to be from someone with no administration experience at all, nor does it appear that even the slightest effort has been put into finding a solution to the problem.  Just for reference, telling us that you googled without actually doing it doesn't count as making an effort.</p><p>Its unacceptable that you don't know that Samba is your file server software and you're asking about how to configure it on slashdot.  Yes, I know, I should be helpful and give you a bit of knowledge blah blah blah.  You should also have not been so lazy as to not bother to even find out what software you are running before asking about how to configure it.</p><p>Whats more unacceptable is that douche bag let put this on the front page.  I'm sure there are plenty of cluebies that send things to slashdot, but even timothy should know at this point that OS X uses samba, its not like it hasn't been discussed here multiple times before.</p><p>But finally, just so I'm not 'that guy' who's a totally useless asshole.</p><p><a href="http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/speed.html" title="samba.org">http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/speed.html</a> [samba.org]</p><p>That guide is for making samba faster, figure it out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Self replies are bad , yada yada ...The more I read the original post the more I think that slashdot has turned into a generic 'ask about your computer problems ' forum than news for nerds.This question appears to be from someone with no administration experience at all , nor does it appear that even the slightest effort has been put into finding a solution to the problem .
Just for reference , telling us that you googled without actually doing it does n't count as making an effort.Its unacceptable that you do n't know that Samba is your file server software and you 're asking about how to configure it on slashdot .
Yes , I know , I should be helpful and give you a bit of knowledge blah blah blah .
You should also have not been so lazy as to not bother to even find out what software you are running before asking about how to configure it.Whats more unacceptable is that douche bag let put this on the front page .
I 'm sure there are plenty of cluebies that send things to slashdot , but even timothy should know at this point that OS X uses samba , its not like it has n't been discussed here multiple times before.But finally , just so I 'm not 'that guy ' who 's a totally useless asshole.http : //us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/speed.html [ samba.org ] That guide is for making samba faster , figure it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Self replies are bad, yada yada ...The more I read the original post the more I think that slashdot has turned into a generic 'ask about your computer problems' forum than news for nerds.This question appears to be from someone with no administration experience at all, nor does it appear that even the slightest effort has been put into finding a solution to the problem.
Just for reference, telling us that you googled without actually doing it doesn't count as making an effort.Its unacceptable that you don't know that Samba is your file server software and you're asking about how to configure it on slashdot.
Yes, I know, I should be helpful and give you a bit of knowledge blah blah blah.
You should also have not been so lazy as to not bother to even find out what software you are running before asking about how to configure it.Whats more unacceptable is that douche bag let put this on the front page.
I'm sure there are plenty of cluebies that send things to slashdot, but even timothy should know at this point that OS X uses samba, its not like it hasn't been discussed here multiple times before.But finally, just so I'm not 'that guy' who's a totally useless asshole.http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/speed.html [samba.org]That guide is for making samba faster, figure it out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362806</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31365928</id>
	<title>Finesse it</title>
	<author>russotto</author>
	<datestamp>1267714020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think there's an effective way of throttling I/O load per user in OS X.  But if he's always accessing the same designer's machine, why not just fool him?  Change the name of the designer's actual machine.  Set up another machine with the old name.  Set up whatever sync processes you need between the two.  Kid will log into the replacement machine and not even know he's doing anything different.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think there 's an effective way of throttling I/O load per user in OS X. But if he 's always accessing the same designer 's machine , why not just fool him ?
Change the name of the designer 's actual machine .
Set up another machine with the old name .
Set up whatever sync processes you need between the two .
Kid will log into the replacement machine and not even know he 's doing anything different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think there's an effective way of throttling I/O load per user in OS X.  But if he's always accessing the same designer's machine, why not just fool him?
Change the name of the designer's actual machine.
Set up another machine with the old name.
Set up whatever sync processes you need between the two.
Kid will log into the replacement machine and not even know he's doing anything different.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363330</id>
	<title>No-win situation</title>
	<author>orev</author>
	<datestamp>1267699860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the user already enjoys immunity due to nepotism, what do you think the boss will do to you if he finds out you are specifically targeting his favorite employee?  You can't win here, not matter what you do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the user already enjoys immunity due to nepotism , what do you think the boss will do to you if he finds out you are specifically targeting his favorite employee ?
You ca n't win here , not matter what you do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the user already enjoys immunity due to nepotism, what do you think the boss will do to you if he finds out you are specifically targeting his favorite employee?
You can't win here, not matter what you do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363972</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>jimicus</author>
	<datestamp>1267702920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which is why you <b>don't</b> pitch a file-server as being "to prevent the bosses' son can quit screwing my computer up".</p><p>You pitch it as "a more efficient way for us all to work, a lot easier to maintain in terms of backups..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is why you do n't pitch a file-server as being " to prevent the bosses ' son can quit screwing my computer up " .You pitch it as " a more efficient way for us all to work , a lot easier to maintain in terms of backups... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which is why you don't pitch a file-server as being "to prevent the bosses' son can quit screwing my computer up".You pitch it as "a more efficient way for us all to work, a lot easier to maintain in terms of backups..."</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362774</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362996</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>TheKidWho</author>
	<datestamp>1267698720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I should add to my previous post, the other solution is to put an SSD on the designers computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I should add to my previous post , the other solution is to put an SSD on the designers computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I should add to my previous post, the other solution is to put an SSD on the designers computer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362762</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363090</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267699020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This definitely would be a good solution.<br>
<br>
But I like the 'Windows' method of solving the problem: reboot.  When the co-worker has this sudden slow down on his system, reboot to clear up the 'resource problem'.  Certainly a more vindictive way to solve the issue, but effective.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This definitely would be a good solution .
But I like the 'Windows ' method of solving the problem : reboot .
When the co-worker has this sudden slow down on his system , reboot to clear up the 'resource problem' .
Certainly a more vindictive way to solve the issue , but effective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This definitely would be a good solution.
But I like the 'Windows' method of solving the problem: reboot.
When the co-worker has this sudden slow down on his system, reboot to clear up the 'resource problem'.
Certainly a more vindictive way to solve the issue, but effective.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367290</id>
	<title>What are files doing on your computer anyway?</title>
	<author>PhunkySchtuff</author>
	<datestamp>1267724220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What on earth are the files on individual workstations for anyway? Why aren't they on a server, so that they can be shared properly and opened up from where they are. If they're on a server, it's also a hell of a lot easier to back them up.</p><p>Servers are now quite cheap. Mac mini Server + Promise RAID is damn cheap and very capable. Add in some external hard drives to back up to, and you've got a great entry level server for a few grand...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What on earth are the files on individual workstations for anyway ?
Why are n't they on a server , so that they can be shared properly and opened up from where they are .
If they 're on a server , it 's also a hell of a lot easier to back them up.Servers are now quite cheap .
Mac mini Server + Promise RAID is damn cheap and very capable .
Add in some external hard drives to back up to , and you 've got a great entry level server for a few grand.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What on earth are the files on individual workstations for anyway?
Why aren't they on a server, so that they can be shared properly and opened up from where they are.
If they're on a server, it's also a hell of a lot easier to back them up.Servers are now quite cheap.
Mac mini Server + Promise RAID is damn cheap and very capable.
Add in some external hard drives to back up to, and you've got a great entry level server for a few grand...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364274</id>
	<title>I'll second that</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1267704180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In particular, make sure you do it like that. You aren't accusing the production director of being an asshole or the like, you are presenting a technical system limitation, as well as options to fix it. You aren't being the bad guy, you aren't trying to get him in trouble, you are showing that there is a problem with the way things are done, and giving various options to fix it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In particular , make sure you do it like that .
You are n't accusing the production director of being an asshole or the like , you are presenting a technical system limitation , as well as options to fix it .
You are n't being the bad guy , you are n't trying to get him in trouble , you are showing that there is a problem with the way things are done , and giving various options to fix it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In particular, make sure you do it like that.
You aren't accusing the production director of being an asshole or the like, you are presenting a technical system limitation, as well as options to fix it.
You aren't being the bad guy, you aren't trying to get him in trouble, you are showing that there is a problem with the way things are done, and giving various options to fix it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363026</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367154</id>
	<title>Re:Explain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267723260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm. Having worked in several large vfx studios, I'm going to have to disagree. At two companies who's name begins with D and one company who's name begins with S, no files are ever stored locally, not even the scripts. Everything is handled over the network, even our home directories.</p><p>No local storage for the user (only OS, even applications are on a network server).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm .
Having worked in several large vfx studios , I 'm going to have to disagree .
At two companies who 's name begins with D and one company who 's name begins with S , no files are ever stored locally , not even the scripts .
Everything is handled over the network , even our home directories.No local storage for the user ( only OS , even applications are on a network server ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm.
Having worked in several large vfx studios, I'm going to have to disagree.
At two companies who's name begins with D and one company who's name begins with S, no files are ever stored locally, not even the scripts.
Everything is handled over the network, even our home directories.No local storage for the user (only OS, even applications are on a network server).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363174</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363890</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267702500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the correct answer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the correct answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the correct answer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363090</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364388</id>
	<title>Re:be nice</title>
	<author>wmelnick</author>
	<datestamp>1267704660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>nice does not affect i/o.  File sharing takes little CPU time, which is what you will be affecting, so the net result will be a minimal slowdown, if anything at all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>nice does not affect i/o .
File sharing takes little CPU time , which is what you will be affecting , so the net result will be a minimal slowdown , if anything at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nice does not affect i/o.
File sharing takes little CPU time, which is what you will be affecting, so the net result will be a minimal slowdown, if anything at all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363210</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</id>
	<title>the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267697580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Disable file shares on workstations. Use a file server.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Disable file shares on workstations .
Use a file server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disable file shares on workstations.
Use a file server.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364136</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1267703580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Best answer for two reasons. One, obviously, is that it's the best technical solution. The other is the sheer dumbness of throttling network traffic. What do you suppose will happen when the prodigal bozo's network file access slows to a crawl? He come running to you to "fix" it. And if he finds out that you did it deliberately...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Best answer for two reasons .
One , obviously , is that it 's the best technical solution .
The other is the sheer dumbness of throttling network traffic .
What do you suppose will happen when the prodigal bozo 's network file access slows to a crawl ?
He come running to you to " fix " it .
And if he finds out that you did it deliberately.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best answer for two reasons.
One, obviously, is that it's the best technical solution.
The other is the sheer dumbness of throttling network traffic.
What do you suppose will happen when the prodigal bozo's network file access slows to a crawl?
He come running to you to "fix" it.
And if he finds out that you did it deliberately...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363858</id>
	<title>This is what Ask Slashdot should be like</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1267702380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not just a description of the what's needed but why it's needed.  <br> <br>
As a result there is a lot of advice for alternative solutions that have nothing to do with throttling but may solve the problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not just a description of the what 's needed but why it 's needed .
As a result there is a lot of advice for alternative solutions that have nothing to do with throttling but may solve the problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not just a description of the what's needed but why it's needed.
As a result there is a lot of advice for alternative solutions that have nothing to do with throttling but may solve the problem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364548</id>
	<title>Work around the problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267705320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having been in a somewhat similar situation, here is a strategy that worked for me and may work for you too:</p><p>Log the actual time lost due to this resource theft and turn it into a dollar value. Put a figure not just against the wages of the employees, but do estimates based on interruptions, impact on morale, potential loss of earnings, overheads like rent, etc. Then you go to the owner, and make a simple case on how he/she can make an extra $1,000 a week (or whatever it calculates out to be) in productivity/efficiency by investing in a file server. Attribute the time lost due to general computer congestion and not because of problems with any one individual, otherwise it will get personal - it's your job to make the computers run well, not to blame or discipline the culprit. Make sure you have all your figures in a pretty spreadsheet.</p><p>If the owner is sufficiently business savvy, he/she will see the obvious need to improve efficiency and approve the purchase. Once you install the server you get support from the affected staff to push their files onto the server (or better yet, just automatically back up their files to the server over night) and simply disable sharing on each machine. When the problem individual complains, well, daddy has already approved all of this so go talk to him.</p><p>I know this 'chess approach' is a bit of an effort, but I've found that nothing works better than arguing in terms of the bottom line. The direct approach relies too much on common sense, of which there is a shortage in this world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having been in a somewhat similar situation , here is a strategy that worked for me and may work for you too : Log the actual time lost due to this resource theft and turn it into a dollar value .
Put a figure not just against the wages of the employees , but do estimates based on interruptions , impact on morale , potential loss of earnings , overheads like rent , etc .
Then you go to the owner , and make a simple case on how he/she can make an extra $ 1,000 a week ( or whatever it calculates out to be ) in productivity/efficiency by investing in a file server .
Attribute the time lost due to general computer congestion and not because of problems with any one individual , otherwise it will get personal - it 's your job to make the computers run well , not to blame or discipline the culprit .
Make sure you have all your figures in a pretty spreadsheet.If the owner is sufficiently business savvy , he/she will see the obvious need to improve efficiency and approve the purchase .
Once you install the server you get support from the affected staff to push their files onto the server ( or better yet , just automatically back up their files to the server over night ) and simply disable sharing on each machine .
When the problem individual complains , well , daddy has already approved all of this so go talk to him.I know this 'chess approach ' is a bit of an effort , but I 've found that nothing works better than arguing in terms of the bottom line .
The direct approach relies too much on common sense , of which there is a shortage in this world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having been in a somewhat similar situation, here is a strategy that worked for me and may work for you too:Log the actual time lost due to this resource theft and turn it into a dollar value.
Put a figure not just against the wages of the employees, but do estimates based on interruptions, impact on morale, potential loss of earnings, overheads like rent, etc.
Then you go to the owner, and make a simple case on how he/she can make an extra $1,000 a week (or whatever it calculates out to be) in productivity/efficiency by investing in a file server.
Attribute the time lost due to general computer congestion and not because of problems with any one individual, otherwise it will get personal - it's your job to make the computers run well, not to blame or discipline the culprit.
Make sure you have all your figures in a pretty spreadsheet.If the owner is sufficiently business savvy, he/she will see the obvious need to improve efficiency and approve the purchase.
Once you install the server you get support from the affected staff to push their files onto the server (or better yet, just automatically back up their files to the server over night) and simply disable sharing on each machine.
When the problem individual complains, well, daddy has already approved all of this so go talk to him.I know this 'chess approach' is a bit of an effort, but I've found that nothing works better than arguing in terms of the bottom line.
The direct approach relies too much on common sense, of which there is a shortage in this world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31434234</id>
	<title>Combo action?</title>
	<author>bryan1945</author>
	<datestamp>1268239080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read through a bunch of the comments, and I agree with turning off the file sharing.  Some others suggested random reboots, turning on/off file sharing randomly.</p><p>I don't need this, but is there a deamon that could occasionly turn file sharing off and on for random periods of time?  I'm also not a programmer, so would this be hard?</p><p>I'm just throwing this out there. (Would also be fun if you could do this and send some type of message that he has corrupted his portn stache.  Or is that just mean?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read through a bunch of the comments , and I agree with turning off the file sharing .
Some others suggested random reboots , turning on/off file sharing randomly.I do n't need this , but is there a deamon that could occasionly turn file sharing off and on for random periods of time ?
I 'm also not a programmer , so would this be hard ? I 'm just throwing this out there .
( Would also be fun if you could do this and send some type of message that he has corrupted his portn stache .
Or is that just mean ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read through a bunch of the comments, and I agree with turning off the file sharing.
Some others suggested random reboots, turning on/off file sharing randomly.I don't need this, but is there a deamon that could occasionly turn file sharing off and on for random periods of time?
I'm also not a programmer, so would this be hard?I'm just throwing this out there.
(Would also be fun if you could do this and send some type of message that he has corrupted his portn stache.
Or is that just mean?
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364202</id>
	<title>Throttling is not the answer</title>
	<author>Morpork</author>
	<datestamp>1267703880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All the 'throttle the process/port/ip' answers are wrong. I'm surprised people here can't see that.</p><p>The issue is that the idio^H^H^H^H user in question is using AFP/SMB/whatever to open the file, but that's the same process he would use to transfer the file over the network.</p><p>If you throttle the file server daemon to 10kbps/nice 20/whatever, all that will serve is to make network transfers excruciatingly slow to the point where he'll be complaining "but it takes \_hours\_ to copy the file over the network, which is why I work on it remotely".</p><p>If there is a throttling solution it is in allowing fast file copies while maintaining slow open/writes. I don't know that exists (at least at the user-manageable level). Read-only shares might help (that way he can't save his edits back) but will end up with fragmented file stores (and someone has to keep track of where the latest version of any file is).</p><p>You might be able to craft a possible solution via Mac OS X's ACLs - maybe write/add\_file on the directory, but read-only files so he can create new files but not edit/save/overwrite existing files.</p><p>At the end of the day, though, without a network infrastructure change (e.g. a central file server) this problem isn't going to go away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All the 'throttle the process/port/ip ' answers are wrong .
I 'm surprised people here ca n't see that.The issue is that the idio ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H user in question is using AFP/SMB/whatever to open the file , but that 's the same process he would use to transfer the file over the network.If you throttle the file server daemon to 10kbps/nice 20/whatever , all that will serve is to make network transfers excruciatingly slow to the point where he 'll be complaining " but it takes \ _hours \ _ to copy the file over the network , which is why I work on it remotely " .If there is a throttling solution it is in allowing fast file copies while maintaining slow open/writes .
I do n't know that exists ( at least at the user-manageable level ) .
Read-only shares might help ( that way he ca n't save his edits back ) but will end up with fragmented file stores ( and someone has to keep track of where the latest version of any file is ) .You might be able to craft a possible solution via Mac OS X 's ACLs - maybe write/add \ _file on the directory , but read-only files so he can create new files but not edit/save/overwrite existing files.At the end of the day , though , without a network infrastructure change ( e.g .
a central file server ) this problem is n't going to go away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the 'throttle the process/port/ip' answers are wrong.
I'm surprised people here can't see that.The issue is that the idio^H^H^H^H user in question is using AFP/SMB/whatever to open the file, but that's the same process he would use to transfer the file over the network.If you throttle the file server daemon to 10kbps/nice 20/whatever, all that will serve is to make network transfers excruciatingly slow to the point where he'll be complaining "but it takes \_hours\_ to copy the file over the network, which is why I work on it remotely".If there is a throttling solution it is in allowing fast file copies while maintaining slow open/writes.
I don't know that exists (at least at the user-manageable level).
Read-only shares might help (that way he can't save his edits back) but will end up with fragmented file stores (and someone has to keep track of where the latest version of any file is).You might be able to craft a possible solution via Mac OS X's ACLs - maybe write/add\_file on the directory, but read-only files so he can create new files but not edit/save/overwrite existing files.At the end of the day, though, without a network infrastructure change (e.g.
a central file server) this problem isn't going to go away.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363706</id>
	<title>I'm the director</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267701660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..and Jeff is toast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..and Jeff is toast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..and Jeff is toast.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363590</id>
	<title>Slower Ethernet</title>
	<author>Daniel Jansen</author>
	<datestamp>1267701120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Assuming you're using gigabit ethernet, dig up an old 10Base-T or 10/100 ethernet hub, put that between his Mac and the network, and you'll reduce the speed at which he can move data to and from those other Macs. A lot cheaper than a server, but don't let Dad find out!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Assuming you 're using gigabit ethernet , dig up an old 10Base-T or 10/100 ethernet hub , put that between his Mac and the network , and you 'll reduce the speed at which he can move data to and from those other Macs .
A lot cheaper than a server , but do n't let Dad find out !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assuming you're using gigabit ethernet, dig up an old 10Base-T or 10/100 ethernet hub, put that between his Mac and the network, and you'll reduce the speed at which he can move data to and from those other Macs.
A lot cheaper than a server, but don't let Dad find out!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362806</id>
	<title>Sounds like info is missing, but here goes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267698060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>His mac grinds to a halt due to samba?  Lower the process priority of samba on the mac serving the files.</p><p>But the better question is, if these are shared files that he's working on, why aren't they on a central server thats made to serve files.  Why are they on individual machines anyway?  If your network is fast enough that it can make the server mac get loaded down with disk IO than its certainly fast enough to serve the files from a central share for both users anyway.</p><p>The solution is to throttle the 'workstations' file server by turning it off and moving the files to a proper server.</p><p>The hack'd solution is to realize that you're talking about a mac serving files<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which means samba<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which has all the power you need to limit the user in question to a sane rate.</p><p>man smb.conf and be prepared for lots of reading.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>His mac grinds to a halt due to samba ?
Lower the process priority of samba on the mac serving the files.But the better question is , if these are shared files that he 's working on , why are n't they on a central server thats made to serve files .
Why are they on individual machines anyway ?
If your network is fast enough that it can make the server mac get loaded down with disk IO than its certainly fast enough to serve the files from a central share for both users anyway.The solution is to throttle the 'workstations ' file server by turning it off and moving the files to a proper server.The hack 'd solution is to realize that you 're talking about a mac serving files ... which means samba ... which has all the power you need to limit the user in question to a sane rate.man smb.conf and be prepared for lots of reading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His mac grinds to a halt due to samba?
Lower the process priority of samba on the mac serving the files.But the better question is, if these are shared files that he's working on, why aren't they on a central server thats made to serve files.
Why are they on individual machines anyway?
If your network is fast enough that it can make the server mac get loaded down with disk IO than its certainly fast enough to serve the files from a central share for both users anyway.The solution is to throttle the 'workstations' file server by turning it off and moving the files to a proper server.The hack'd solution is to realize that you're talking about a mac serving files ... which means samba ... which has all the power you need to limit the user in question to a sane rate.man smb.conf and be prepared for lots of reading.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367722</id>
	<title>nothing like ionice on Macs?</title>
	<author>bingoUV</author>
	<datestamp>1267728180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On linux, there is <a href="http://linux.die.net/man/1/ionice" title="die.net" rel="nofollow">ionice</a> [die.net] which solves this problem conveniently. Just run the file-share program (e.g. ftp server, CIFS server etc.) with a lower IO priority, and there is no effect on the person working on it. Isn't there anything comparable for Macs?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On linux , there is ionice [ die.net ] which solves this problem conveniently .
Just run the file-share program ( e.g .
ftp server , CIFS server etc .
) with a lower IO priority , and there is no effect on the person working on it .
Is n't there anything comparable for Macs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On linux, there is ionice [die.net] which solves this problem conveniently.
Just run the file-share program (e.g.
ftp server, CIFS server etc.
) with a lower IO priority, and there is no effect on the person working on it.
Isn't there anything comparable for Macs?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364312</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>complete loony</author>
	<datestamp>1267704360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, if you are working completely on your own desktop, just disconnect from the network.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , if you are working completely on your own desktop , just disconnect from the network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, if you are working completely on your own desktop, just disconnect from the network.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363090</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363402</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>poetmatt</author>
	<datestamp>1267700160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bingo.  networking 101: never use file shares for anything that ends up being a significant amount of file transfer activity.</p><p>if simple jeff isn't a computer guy, I find it understandable to make that mistake. If they are a computer guy, they need to go back to school for networking 101.</p><p>client-server applications, aka servers,  exist for a reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bingo .
networking 101 : never use file shares for anything that ends up being a significant amount of file transfer activity.if simple jeff is n't a computer guy , I find it understandable to make that mistake .
If they are a computer guy , they need to go back to school for networking 101.client-server applications , aka servers , exist for a reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bingo.
networking 101: never use file shares for anything that ends up being a significant amount of file transfer activity.if simple jeff isn't a computer guy, I find it understandable to make that mistake.
If they are a computer guy, they need to go back to school for networking 101.client-server applications, aka servers,  exist for a reason.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362724</id>
	<title>Suggestive title</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267697820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While it is indeed possible to throttle OS X users with a strong grip or a length of rope, it's quite illegal at least in the US</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While it is indeed possible to throttle OS X users with a strong grip or a length of rope , it 's quite illegal at least in the US</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While it is indeed possible to throttle OS X users with a strong grip or a length of rope, it's quite illegal at least in the US</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363000</id>
	<title>ipfw?</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1267698720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You could try ipfw's rate limiting features. <a href="http://www.freebsd-howto.com/HOWTO/Ipfw-HOWTO" title="freebsd-howto.com">With ipfw</a> [freebsd-howto.com] you can create "pipes" of specified capacity and attach them to ports, limiting speed for activity on that port.<br> <br>

I don't know, though, if that will still work with Apple's application-level firewall in the mix. I'm not up on the details; but my impression is that that one has a habit of being extremely deferential to Apple-signed binaries.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could try ipfw 's rate limiting features .
With ipfw [ freebsd-howto.com ] you can create " pipes " of specified capacity and attach them to ports , limiting speed for activity on that port .
I do n't know , though , if that will still work with Apple 's application-level firewall in the mix .
I 'm not up on the details ; but my impression is that that one has a habit of being extremely deferential to Apple-signed binaries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could try ipfw's rate limiting features.
With ipfw [freebsd-howto.com] you can create "pipes" of specified capacity and attach them to ports, limiting speed for activity on that port.
I don't know, though, if that will still work with Apple's application-level firewall in the mix.
I'm not up on the details; but my impression is that that one has a habit of being extremely deferential to Apple-signed binaries.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363438</id>
	<title>As a Mac sysadmin - this should be simple</title>
	<author>guruevi</author>
	<datestamp>1267700400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are several solutions out there:<br>- Put the files on a server with a decent storage array. I have all my users working directly off this storage array, this is very simple if you're a Mac shop<br>- Put the files on the offenders' computer automatically - if the user is too lazy to do it himself and has immunity, you could just rsync the whole thing to his system (every minute, hour or whatever you fancy). If he doesn't have a Mac and he needs to, give him one.<br>- Get a better drive. If he can hammer the drive using file sharing over a gigabit connection, maybe you need better drives or a better computer. The new Mac Pro's are very powerful and with a RAID0/5 array of 4 drives I doubt you'll be feeling the load. There are also Firewire enclosures that will do for this purpose.<br>- Shape his connection somehow. The built-in ipfw command can do this for you.<br>- Put him in a VirtualBox environment and give him only 1 CPU and limited amount of RAM. His sharing will become CPU-bound instead of disc-bound.<br>- Get an SSD (or array of). If he's generating too much IOPS, maybe an SSD will do. 100 IOPS vs 5000 IOPS may give you much better response times and if you get an Intel, OCZ Vertex or another non-budget SSD you'll get better read and write speeds as well. The 0.1ms vs 10ms access times will also help.<br>- Check his application. If he's making his own applications/drive and then proceeds to hammer the drives into oblivion he might be doing something wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are several solutions out there : - Put the files on a server with a decent storage array .
I have all my users working directly off this storage array , this is very simple if you 're a Mac shop- Put the files on the offenders ' computer automatically - if the user is too lazy to do it himself and has immunity , you could just rsync the whole thing to his system ( every minute , hour or whatever you fancy ) .
If he does n't have a Mac and he needs to , give him one.- Get a better drive .
If he can hammer the drive using file sharing over a gigabit connection , maybe you need better drives or a better computer .
The new Mac Pro 's are very powerful and with a RAID0/5 array of 4 drives I doubt you 'll be feeling the load .
There are also Firewire enclosures that will do for this purpose.- Shape his connection somehow .
The built-in ipfw command can do this for you.- Put him in a VirtualBox environment and give him only 1 CPU and limited amount of RAM .
His sharing will become CPU-bound instead of disc-bound.- Get an SSD ( or array of ) .
If he 's generating too much IOPS , maybe an SSD will do .
100 IOPS vs 5000 IOPS may give you much better response times and if you get an Intel , OCZ Vertex or another non-budget SSD you 'll get better read and write speeds as well .
The 0.1ms vs 10ms access times will also help.- Check his application .
If he 's making his own applications/drive and then proceeds to hammer the drives into oblivion he might be doing something wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are several solutions out there:- Put the files on a server with a decent storage array.
I have all my users working directly off this storage array, this is very simple if you're a Mac shop- Put the files on the offenders' computer automatically - if the user is too lazy to do it himself and has immunity, you could just rsync the whole thing to his system (every minute, hour or whatever you fancy).
If he doesn't have a Mac and he needs to, give him one.- Get a better drive.
If he can hammer the drive using file sharing over a gigabit connection, maybe you need better drives or a better computer.
The new Mac Pro's are very powerful and with a RAID0/5 array of 4 drives I doubt you'll be feeling the load.
There are also Firewire enclosures that will do for this purpose.- Shape his connection somehow.
The built-in ipfw command can do this for you.- Put him in a VirtualBox environment and give him only 1 CPU and limited amount of RAM.
His sharing will become CPU-bound instead of disc-bound.- Get an SSD (or array of).
If he's generating too much IOPS, maybe an SSD will do.
100 IOPS vs 5000 IOPS may give you much better response times and if you get an Intel, OCZ Vertex or another non-budget SSD you'll get better read and write speeds as well.
The 0.1ms vs 10ms access times will also help.- Check his application.
If he's making his own applications/drive and then proceeds to hammer the drives into oblivion he might be doing something wrong.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362748</id>
	<title>Alternate solutions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267697880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>These aren't suggestions for your question, but rather for your situation.  (I'm betting you're going to get a lot of these; so I apologize.)

1) When the designer notices the HD slowdown, why doesn't he just go offline for a while?  After doing that 5 or 15 times maybe that clown will get the idea.

2) Can the designers make the shared files read-only?</htmltext>
<tokenext>These are n't suggestions for your question , but rather for your situation .
( I 'm betting you 're going to get a lot of these ; so I apologize .
) 1 ) When the designer notices the HD slowdown , why does n't he just go offline for a while ?
After doing that 5 or 15 times maybe that clown will get the idea .
2 ) Can the designers make the shared files read-only ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These aren't suggestions for your question, but rather for your situation.
(I'm betting you're going to get a lot of these; so I apologize.
)

1) When the designer notices the HD slowdown, why doesn't he just go offline for a while?
After doing that 5 or 15 times maybe that clown will get the idea.
2) Can the designers make the shared files read-only?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363780</id>
	<title>Talking to the boss</title>
	<author>Midnight Thunder</author>
	<datestamp>1267702080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would wonder whether the designer has considered simply talking to the boss and explaining the impact in terms of dollars and hour?. If his boss does not try to correct his sons behaviour, then I would consider the throttling approach and then what other job opportunities there are. If this continual behaviour results in you wanting to leave the company, then you shouldn't really be worried about being getting fired for bringing the issue up with your boss.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would wonder whether the designer has considered simply talking to the boss and explaining the impact in terms of dollars and hour ? .
If his boss does not try to correct his sons behaviour , then I would consider the throttling approach and then what other job opportunities there are .
If this continual behaviour results in you wanting to leave the company , then you should n't really be worried about being getting fired for bringing the issue up with your boss .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would wonder whether the designer has considered simply talking to the boss and explaining the impact in terms of dollars and hour?.
If his boss does not try to correct his sons behaviour, then I would consider the throttling approach and then what other job opportunities there are.
If this continual behaviour results in you wanting to leave the company, then you shouldn't really be worried about being getting fired for bringing the issue up with your boss.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362720</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367572</id>
	<title>Not by OS, by IP</title>
	<author>Secret Rabbit</author>
	<datestamp>1267726620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make sure his IP is static and use that to throttle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make sure his IP is static and use that to throttle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make sure his IP is static and use that to throttle.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363802</id>
	<title>Re:Be assertive</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267702200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is by far the best choice.  The production manager might be the owner's son, and it might give him some leeway (first to upgrade, more vaca time), but if the guy is willing to negatively impact his business so much by catering to the whims of the son, you should find a new job and watch that place crash and burn from a far.  But you don't get far in business without the ability to make rational decisions, so laying it out like this to him should solve the problem.  Being passive-aggressive, while satisfying, will just lead to bigger problems long term.  And when you talk to him, make sure you are presenting it as a solution that helps meet business objectives, not as a complaint, which can be interpreted as 'sour grapes' or a personal attack (it is his son)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is by far the best choice .
The production manager might be the owner 's son , and it might give him some leeway ( first to upgrade , more vaca time ) , but if the guy is willing to negatively impact his business so much by catering to the whims of the son , you should find a new job and watch that place crash and burn from a far .
But you do n't get far in business without the ability to make rational decisions , so laying it out like this to him should solve the problem .
Being passive-aggressive , while satisfying , will just lead to bigger problems long term .
And when you talk to him , make sure you are presenting it as a solution that helps meet business objectives , not as a complaint , which can be interpreted as 'sour grapes ' or a personal attack ( it is his son )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is by far the best choice.
The production manager might be the owner's son, and it might give him some leeway (first to upgrade, more vaca time), but if the guy is willing to negatively impact his business so much by catering to the whims of the son, you should find a new job and watch that place crash and burn from a far.
But you don't get far in business without the ability to make rational decisions, so laying it out like this to him should solve the problem.
Being passive-aggressive, while satisfying, will just lead to bigger problems long term.
And when you talk to him, make sure you are presenting it as a solution that helps meet business objectives, not as a complaint, which can be interpreted as 'sour grapes' or a personal attack (it is his son)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362734</id>
	<title>I don't see how it's possible with OSX.</title>
	<author>feepness</author>
	<datestamp>1267697820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rather I would recommend your bare hands or a short length of rope.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rather I would recommend your bare hands or a short length of rope .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rather I would recommend your bare hands or a short length of rope.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364266</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, What?</title>
	<author>Stan Vassilev</author>
	<datestamp>1267704180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Somehow, I find it surprising that you're managing to saturate a modern hard drive via a single network connection. Are you running extremely slow PCs on a ridiculously fast network? The workflow that you describe sounds pretty normal for a design studio.</p></div><p>Disks still have one set of read/write heads. If they are directed to read/write on multiple locations at once, both tasks will see performance drop significantly. This is the same reason why defragmenting improves performance.</p><p>Apart from that, it's easy to forget hard disks used to easily strain the CPU before DMA transfers became common. While local reads/writes can go through DMA, casually allowing high speed transfers, everything that goes through samba is still going through the CPU, which the designer is also using at that moment.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somehow , I find it surprising that you 're managing to saturate a modern hard drive via a single network connection .
Are you running extremely slow PCs on a ridiculously fast network ?
The workflow that you describe sounds pretty normal for a design studio.Disks still have one set of read/write heads .
If they are directed to read/write on multiple locations at once , both tasks will see performance drop significantly .
This is the same reason why defragmenting improves performance.Apart from that , it 's easy to forget hard disks used to easily strain the CPU before DMA transfers became common .
While local reads/writes can go through DMA , casually allowing high speed transfers , everything that goes through samba is still going through the CPU , which the designer is also using at that moment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somehow, I find it surprising that you're managing to saturate a modern hard drive via a single network connection.
Are you running extremely slow PCs on a ridiculously fast network?
The workflow that you describe sounds pretty normal for a design studio.Disks still have one set of read/write heads.
If they are directed to read/write on multiple locations at once, both tasks will see performance drop significantly.
This is the same reason why defragmenting improves performance.Apart from that, it's easy to forget hard disks used to easily strain the CPU before DMA transfers became common.
While local reads/writes can go through DMA, casually allowing high speed transfers, everything that goes through samba is still going through the CPU, which the designer is also using at that moment.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364018</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1267703100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right, i also think he is screwed in the long run.  Time to move on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right , i also think he is screwed in the long run .
Time to move on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right, i also think he is screwed in the long run.
Time to move on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362774</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363172</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267699260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most current Macs, even a few versions back, are quite quick machines dragging an anchor around in the form of a 5400RPM laptop hard drive. With multi-user access, seek times add up fast. Upgrading my Mac Mini to a mid-level SSD made it feel 10x faster. Now it's the stupid SATA1 interface slowing things down. Not much I can do about that.</p><p>Upgrading the machine to a "modern hard drive" would help a lot. Even in laptop form factor, 7200RPM is easy to come by. SSD is ideal, but design places tend to use big files, so an SSD might be too small.</p><p>Or, as suggested by every other reply, put up a real file server. A few mirrors stripped into a single big drive should give excellent performance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most current Macs , even a few versions back , are quite quick machines dragging an anchor around in the form of a 5400RPM laptop hard drive .
With multi-user access , seek times add up fast .
Upgrading my Mac Mini to a mid-level SSD made it feel 10x faster .
Now it 's the stupid SATA1 interface slowing things down .
Not much I can do about that.Upgrading the machine to a " modern hard drive " would help a lot .
Even in laptop form factor , 7200RPM is easy to come by .
SSD is ideal , but design places tend to use big files , so an SSD might be too small.Or , as suggested by every other reply , put up a real file server .
A few mirrors stripped into a single big drive should give excellent performance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most current Macs, even a few versions back, are quite quick machines dragging an anchor around in the form of a 5400RPM laptop hard drive.
With multi-user access, seek times add up fast.
Upgrading my Mac Mini to a mid-level SSD made it feel 10x faster.
Now it's the stupid SATA1 interface slowing things down.
Not much I can do about that.Upgrading the machine to a "modern hard drive" would help a lot.
Even in laptop form factor, 7200RPM is easy to come by.
SSD is ideal, but design places tend to use big files, so an SSD might be too small.Or, as suggested by every other reply, put up a real file server.
A few mirrors stripped into a single big drive should give excellent performance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362822</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364004</id>
	<title>Re:Be assertive</title>
	<author>Fujisawa Sensei</author>
	<datestamp>1267703040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This twit isn't your problem. Throttling him on your own initiative is both passive-aggressive and might overstep what the owner expects, which could land you in hot water. Don't do that. Here's what you do instead. Go to the owner's office and say the following:</p><blockquote><div><p>I've been receiving complaints from some of the design staff about their computers slowing down and interfering with their work. The cause of the problem is the Production Director accessing files on designers' computers instead of copying them to his own. The hard drives on designer computers are not designed to accommodate two users accessing the files at once.</p><p>These slowdowns will persist unless we take action to correct the problem. If these remote accesses continue, we will need to increase the capacity of each designer's workstation at a cost of $A per machine for a total of $B. Another option would be to limit these remote accesses by implementing an automatic throttling system. That will take C hours of my time [optionally: at cost $D]." The last, which I recommend, is to create a new workflow for the Production Manager that ensures that designer computers are not overloaded.</p><p>What is your decision?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>The response will probably be eventually be, "deal".</p><p>Remember, you are expendable, the twit isn't.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This twit is n't your problem .
Throttling him on your own initiative is both passive-aggressive and might overstep what the owner expects , which could land you in hot water .
Do n't do that .
Here 's what you do instead .
Go to the owner 's office and say the following : I 've been receiving complaints from some of the design staff about their computers slowing down and interfering with their work .
The cause of the problem is the Production Director accessing files on designers ' computers instead of copying them to his own .
The hard drives on designer computers are not designed to accommodate two users accessing the files at once.These slowdowns will persist unless we take action to correct the problem .
If these remote accesses continue , we will need to increase the capacity of each designer 's workstation at a cost of $ A per machine for a total of $ B .
Another option would be to limit these remote accesses by implementing an automatic throttling system .
That will take C hours of my time [ optionally : at cost $ D ] .
" The last , which I recommend , is to create a new workflow for the Production Manager that ensures that designer computers are not overloaded.What is your decision ? The response will probably be eventually be , " deal " .Remember , you are expendable , the twit is n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This twit isn't your problem.
Throttling him on your own initiative is both passive-aggressive and might overstep what the owner expects, which could land you in hot water.
Don't do that.
Here's what you do instead.
Go to the owner's office and say the following:I've been receiving complaints from some of the design staff about their computers slowing down and interfering with their work.
The cause of the problem is the Production Director accessing files on designers' computers instead of copying them to his own.
The hard drives on designer computers are not designed to accommodate two users accessing the files at once.These slowdowns will persist unless we take action to correct the problem.
If these remote accesses continue, we will need to increase the capacity of each designer's workstation at a cost of $A per machine for a total of $B.
Another option would be to limit these remote accesses by implementing an automatic throttling system.
That will take C hours of my time [optionally: at cost $D].
" The last, which I recommend, is to create a new workflow for the Production Manager that ensures that designer computers are not overloaded.What is your decision?The response will probably be eventually be, "deal".Remember, you are expendable, the twit isn't.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364074</id>
	<title>Re:Explain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267703400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a design studio, not video editing. Either way, on a gigabit network with any decent file server, access from the file server can actually be faster than the local disks.</p><p>There is absolutely no reason for any business to be doing local workstation to workstation filesharing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a design studio , not video editing .
Either way , on a gigabit network with any decent file server , access from the file server can actually be faster than the local disks.There is absolutely no reason for any business to be doing local workstation to workstation filesharing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a design studio, not video editing.
Either way, on a gigabit network with any decent file server, access from the file server can actually be faster than the local disks.There is absolutely no reason for any business to be doing local workstation to workstation filesharing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362810</id>
	<title>Disconnect him</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267698060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Periodically disconnect him (just turn sharing off and right back on)  Claim ignorance when he asks what keeps happening.  Eventually one of his files will be corrupted (probably a Quark XPress doc) and he will learn his lesson.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Periodically disconnect him ( just turn sharing off and right back on ) Claim ignorance when he asks what keeps happening .
Eventually one of his files will be corrupted ( probably a Quark XPress doc ) and he will learn his lesson .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Periodically disconnect him (just turn sharing off and right back on)  Claim ignorance when he asks what keeps happening.
Eventually one of his files will be corrupted (probably a Quark XPress doc) and he will learn his lesson.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363058</id>
	<title>Turnabout</title>
	<author>Improv</author>
	<datestamp>1267698900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Access his files and grind his computer to a halt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Access his files and grind his computer to a halt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Access his files and grind his computer to a halt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363836</id>
	<title>Re:Be assertive</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267702320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like it.  A lot.  One small refinement.  If you were worried about familial doucebaggery, you might even remove the specific job title of the person doing it, and fill out the explanation a tad.</p><p>"The cause of the problem is the Production Director accessing files on designers' computers instead of copying them to his own.  The hard drives on designer computers are not designed to accommodate two users accessing the files at once."</p><p>becomes</p><p>"This problem occurs when two people need data at the same time on a specific designer workstation.  One user is working at the workstation, and another will need to change a file that is located there, so the second user makes the changes remotely.  The workstations simply aren't set up to handle that kind of usage, and it slows the workstation down considerably.  We could upgrade the workstations at a cost of $X per station.  We could also add a central file server where we can all share common project work, but that will cost $X.  There is also a free way to reduce the impact of this - simply asking everyone to make local copies of everything they are working on."</p><p>Then you haven't blamed the kid for anything, merely pointed out that a practice that occurs within the office is having an impact, and that impact can be mitigated.  No one, especially Dad, needs to know that Junior is the only one doing it, so you have given Junior a way to mend his ways without confrontation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like it .
A lot .
One small refinement .
If you were worried about familial doucebaggery , you might even remove the specific job title of the person doing it , and fill out the explanation a tad .
" The cause of the problem is the Production Director accessing files on designers ' computers instead of copying them to his own .
The hard drives on designer computers are not designed to accommodate two users accessing the files at once .
" becomes " This problem occurs when two people need data at the same time on a specific designer workstation .
One user is working at the workstation , and another will need to change a file that is located there , so the second user makes the changes remotely .
The workstations simply are n't set up to handle that kind of usage , and it slows the workstation down considerably .
We could upgrade the workstations at a cost of $ X per station .
We could also add a central file server where we can all share common project work , but that will cost $ X .
There is also a free way to reduce the impact of this - simply asking everyone to make local copies of everything they are working on .
" Then you have n't blamed the kid for anything , merely pointed out that a practice that occurs within the office is having an impact , and that impact can be mitigated .
No one , especially Dad , needs to know that Junior is the only one doing it , so you have given Junior a way to mend his ways without confrontation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like it.
A lot.
One small refinement.
If you were worried about familial doucebaggery, you might even remove the specific job title of the person doing it, and fill out the explanation a tad.
"The cause of the problem is the Production Director accessing files on designers' computers instead of copying them to his own.
The hard drives on designer computers are not designed to accommodate two users accessing the files at once.
"becomes"This problem occurs when two people need data at the same time on a specific designer workstation.
One user is working at the workstation, and another will need to change a file that is located there, so the second user makes the changes remotely.
The workstations simply aren't set up to handle that kind of usage, and it slows the workstation down considerably.
We could upgrade the workstations at a cost of $X per station.
We could also add a central file server where we can all share common project work, but that will cost $X.
There is also a free way to reduce the impact of this - simply asking everyone to make local copies of everything they are working on.
"Then you haven't blamed the kid for anything, merely pointed out that a practice that occurs within the office is having an impact, and that impact can be mitigated.
No one, especially Dad, needs to know that Junior is the only one doing it, so you have given Junior a way to mend his ways without confrontation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31369116</id>
	<title>Adobe Version Que</title>
	<author>theolein</author>
	<datestamp>1267788840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the designer is working with the Adobe Suite, they will have Version Queue installed. Get a third machine and get both boss' son and designer to work from a Version Queue DB on that machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the designer is working with the Adobe Suite , they will have Version Queue installed .
Get a third machine and get both boss ' son and designer to work from a Version Queue DB on that machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the designer is working with the Adobe Suite, they will have Version Queue installed.
Get a third machine and get both boss' son and designer to work from a Version Queue DB on that machine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364688</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, What?</title>
	<author>he-sk</author>
	<datestamp>1267705920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No single harddrive is able to fill a high-speed network connection and hasn't been able for a long time.  And all Macs have had Gigabit ethernet for years now.</p><p>Besides, I think the issues come from unexpected concurrent access which cause unexplainable slowdowns.  If the designer opens a 500MB file in his photoshop, he knows that he's gonna have to wait a little bit, but if he's working on something and clicks on a button and suddenly the spinning beach ball from hell appears b/c some other process has trashed his disk cache and now the dialog won't come up, b/c the code was paged out to disk -- wow, that is a long sentence, I bet you feel stupid by now, kinda like the designer in question.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No single harddrive is able to fill a high-speed network connection and has n't been able for a long time .
And all Macs have had Gigabit ethernet for years now.Besides , I think the issues come from unexpected concurrent access which cause unexplainable slowdowns .
If the designer opens a 500MB file in his photoshop , he knows that he 's gon na have to wait a little bit , but if he 's working on something and clicks on a button and suddenly the spinning beach ball from hell appears b/c some other process has trashed his disk cache and now the dialog wo n't come up , b/c the code was paged out to disk -- wow , that is a long sentence , I bet you feel stupid by now , kinda like the designer in question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No single harddrive is able to fill a high-speed network connection and hasn't been able for a long time.
And all Macs have had Gigabit ethernet for years now.Besides, I think the issues come from unexpected concurrent access which cause unexplainable slowdowns.
If the designer opens a 500MB file in his photoshop, he knows that he's gonna have to wait a little bit, but if he's working on something and clicks on a button and suddenly the spinning beach ball from hell appears b/c some other process has trashed his disk cache and now the dialog won't come up, b/c the code was paged out to disk -- wow, that is a long sentence, I bet you feel stupid by now, kinda like the designer in question.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363378</id>
	<title>Hardware solution</title>
	<author>Ustice</author>
	<datestamp>1267700040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get a Mac Mini with OS X Server on it, and call it a day, then you can do more management.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get a Mac Mini with OS X Server on it , and call it a day , then you can do more management .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get a Mac Mini with OS X Server on it, and call it a day, then you can do more management.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363218</id>
	<title>Throttle the User</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1267699380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In pebkac or id10t situations, throttling the user is often the best option.  He's just going to complain to daddy that you're preventing him from doing work if you retard his remote file access.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In pebkac or id10t situations , throttling the user is often the best option .
He 's just going to complain to daddy that you 're preventing him from doing work if you retard his remote file access .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In pebkac or id10t situations, throttling the user is often the best option.
He's just going to complain to daddy that you're preventing him from doing work if you retard his remote file access.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31365016</id>
	<title>Get an external drive...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267707600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depending on the size of the files will depend on if USB is sufficient or if you need to get a firewire drive.<br>FW800 drive you should notice that much of a slow down from your internal drive....<br>If the idiot tries to share to your FW drive shutdown your app and eject it...he he he....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depending on the size of the files will depend on if USB is sufficient or if you need to get a firewire drive.FW800 drive you should notice that much of a slow down from your internal drive....If the idiot tries to share to your FW drive shutdown your app and eject it...he he he... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depending on the size of the files will depend on if USB is sufficient or if you need to get a firewire drive.FW800 drive you should notice that much of a slow down from your internal drive....If the idiot tries to share to your FW drive shutdown your app and eject it...he he he....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363752</id>
	<title>Re:Location, Location, Location</title>
	<author>xiong.chiamiov</author>
	<datestamp>1267701960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And why not use revision control?</p></div><p>From experience, trying to get designers to use a VCS is more trouble than it's worth.  They're used to dealing with file locks, and they'd prefer to continue with what they know, rather than use this new thing that the sysadmin is trying to force on them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And why not use revision control ? From experience , trying to get designers to use a VCS is more trouble than it 's worth .
They 're used to dealing with file locks , and they 'd prefer to continue with what they know , rather than use this new thing that the sysadmin is trying to force on them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And why not use revision control?From experience, trying to get designers to use a VCS is more trouble than it's worth.
They're used to dealing with file locks, and they'd prefer to continue with what they know, rather than use this new thing that the sysadmin is trying to force on them.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362744</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31368164</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like info is missing, but here goes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267819620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't help the I/O scheduler in OS X sucks monkey balls. Color wheel of death anyone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't help the I/O scheduler in OS X sucks monkey balls .
Color wheel of death anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't help the I/O scheduler in OS X sucks monkey balls.
Color wheel of death anyone?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363074</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362762</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>TheKidWho</author>
	<datestamp>1267697940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to echo that statement, use a file server, problem solved.</p><p>I assume the OP doesn't see anything wrong with having 20 slightly different versions of the same design?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to echo that statement , use a file server , problem solved.I assume the OP does n't see anything wrong with having 20 slightly different versions of the same design ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to echo that statement, use a file server, problem solved.I assume the OP doesn't see anything wrong with having 20 slightly different versions of the same design?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363408</id>
	<title>Try this</title>
	<author>QuoteMstr</author>
	<datestamp>1267700160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>/**<br> * Small program to run a program under OS X with low IO priority<br> */<br><br>#include &lt;sys/resource.h&gt;<br>#include &lt;string.h&gt;<br>#include &lt;stdio.h&gt;<br>#include &lt;errno.h&gt;<br>#include &lt;libgen.h&gt;<br>#include &lt;unistd.h&gt;<br><br>int main(int argc, char** argv) {<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; if(argc &lt; 2 || !strcmp(argv[1], "-h")) {<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fprintf(stderr,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; "\%s command args...: run COMMAND with low IO priority\n",<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; basename(argv[0]));<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; return 1;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; }<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; if(setiopolicy\_np(IOPOL\_TYPE\_DISK, IOPOL\_SCOPE\_PROCESS, IOPOL\_THROTTLE)) {<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fprintf(stderr, "\%s: setiopolicy\_np: \%s\n",<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; basename(argv[0]), strerror(errno));<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; return 1;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; }<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; execvp(argv[1], argv+1);<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; fprintf(stderr, "\%s: \%s: \%s\n",<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; basename(argv[0]), argv[1], strerror(errno));<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; return 1;<br>}<br></tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>/ * * * Small program to run a program under OS X with low IO priority * / # include # include # include # include # include # include int main ( int argc , char * * argv ) {     if ( argc         fprintf ( stderr ,                 " \ % s command args... : run COMMAND with low IO priority \ n " ,                 basename ( argv [ 0 ] ) ) ;         return 1 ;     }     if ( setiopolicy \ _np ( IOPOL \ _TYPE \ _DISK , IOPOL \ _SCOPE \ _PROCESS , IOPOL \ _THROTTLE ) ) {         fprintf ( stderr , " \ % s : setiopolicy \ _np : \ % s \ n " ,                 basename ( argv [ 0 ] ) , strerror ( errno ) ) ;         return 1 ;     }     execvp ( argv [ 1 ] , argv + 1 ) ;     fprintf ( stderr , " \ % s : \ % s : \ % s \ n " ,             basename ( argv [ 0 ] ) , argv [ 1 ] , strerror ( errno ) ) ;     return 1 ; }</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/** * Small program to run a program under OS X with low IO priority */#include #include #include #include #include #include int main(int argc, char** argv) {    if(argc         fprintf(stderr,                "\%s command args...: run COMMAND with low IO priority\n",                basename(argv[0]));        return 1;    }    if(setiopolicy\_np(IOPOL\_TYPE\_DISK, IOPOL\_SCOPE\_PROCESS, IOPOL\_THROTTLE)) {        fprintf(stderr, "\%s: setiopolicy\_np: \%s\n",                basename(argv[0]), strerror(errno));        return 1;    }    execvp(argv[1], argv+1);    fprintf(stderr, "\%s: \%s: \%s\n",            basename(argv[0]), argv[1], strerror(errno));    return 1;}</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31366088</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like info is missing, but here goes</title>
	<author>JayAEU</author>
	<datestamp>1267715220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hang on, he said he was on a slow network (100 MBit/s), didn't he? Even at full utilisation of the NIC, how can 12 MByte/s bog down any workstation intended to do serious graphics editing or video cutting work on?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hang on , he said he was on a slow network ( 100 MBit/s ) , did n't he ?
Even at full utilisation of the NIC , how can 12 MByte/s bog down any workstation intended to do serious graphics editing or video cutting work on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hang on, he said he was on a slow network (100 MBit/s), didn't he?
Even at full utilisation of the NIC, how can 12 MByte/s bog down any workstation intended to do serious graphics editing or video cutting work on?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362772</id>
	<title>Use Subversion on the machine itsself.</title>
	<author>sir lox elroy</author>
	<datestamp>1267697940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Use version control on the machine itself, forcing the users to check in and out files might help, and alleviate the headache of two users working on the same file.  Subversion is available as a binary for install right into OSX and XCode supports Subversion.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Use version control on the machine itself , forcing the users to check in and out files might help , and alleviate the headache of two users working on the same file .
Subversion is available as a binary for install right into OSX and XCode supports Subversion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use version control on the machine itself, forcing the users to check in and out files might help, and alleviate the headache of two users working on the same file.
Subversion is available as a binary for install right into OSX and XCode supports Subversion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363716</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267701720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had a similar problem a long time ago. One of the 3 partners running the joint was always poking around with file sharing, slowing the single expensive desktop publishing workstation down to a crawl. The perpetrator was the company's Fragile Genius and the other partners told us tough, there was no way they would ask him to modify his behavior.</p><p>Eventually, the Fragile Genius began locking himself in his office. There was one window that looked out into a common area, and he spray-painted it black. We believe it was about at this time he started smoking crack in his office.</p><p>He also had a kitten, which he rescued from the streets and then began to poison by feeding it nothing but raw hot dogs.</p><p>You think it's hard to stop the owner's son from doing anything wrong? Be glad it isn't the owner himself.</p><p>But honestly it was not the crack smoking that got the other partners to straighten this guy out. It was his cat peeing on their chairs.</p><p>Therefore, my advice is to give the boss's son a kitten and a pack of hot dogs, and maybe some black spray paint. If you know a crack dealer, an introduction may be fruitful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a similar problem a long time ago .
One of the 3 partners running the joint was always poking around with file sharing , slowing the single expensive desktop publishing workstation down to a crawl .
The perpetrator was the company 's Fragile Genius and the other partners told us tough , there was no way they would ask him to modify his behavior.Eventually , the Fragile Genius began locking himself in his office .
There was one window that looked out into a common area , and he spray-painted it black .
We believe it was about at this time he started smoking crack in his office.He also had a kitten , which he rescued from the streets and then began to poison by feeding it nothing but raw hot dogs.You think it 's hard to stop the owner 's son from doing anything wrong ?
Be glad it is n't the owner himself.But honestly it was not the crack smoking that got the other partners to straighten this guy out .
It was his cat peeing on their chairs.Therefore , my advice is to give the boss 's son a kitten and a pack of hot dogs , and maybe some black spray paint .
If you know a crack dealer , an introduction may be fruitful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a similar problem a long time ago.
One of the 3 partners running the joint was always poking around with file sharing, slowing the single expensive desktop publishing workstation down to a crawl.
The perpetrator was the company's Fragile Genius and the other partners told us tough, there was no way they would ask him to modify his behavior.Eventually, the Fragile Genius began locking himself in his office.
There was one window that looked out into a common area, and he spray-painted it black.
We believe it was about at this time he started smoking crack in his office.He also had a kitten, which he rescued from the streets and then began to poison by feeding it nothing but raw hot dogs.You think it's hard to stop the owner's son from doing anything wrong?
Be glad it isn't the owner himself.But honestly it was not the crack smoking that got the other partners to straighten this guy out.
It was his cat peeing on their chairs.Therefore, my advice is to give the boss's son a kitten and a pack of hot dogs, and maybe some black spray paint.
If you know a crack dealer, an introduction may be fruitful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363154</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>WCMI92</author>
	<datestamp>1267699200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Disable file shares on workstations. Use a file server.</p> </div><p>This.  We use Windows servers, but for designers and other people who store important files on their local machine rather than the server, after several hard drive crashes that proved they were disobeying the directive to not do this, we now employ folder redirection.  How this works is that in our domain policy, certain folders (such as My Documents) and files (Outlook PST's) are actually stored on the file server, even though it appears to be "local" to the user.  We also use the offline files feature and file synchronization in the case of notebook users so that they may have access to the files when not on our LAN.</p><p>I'm sure there is some equivalent way to do this on a Mac.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Disable file shares on workstations .
Use a file server .
This. We use Windows servers , but for designers and other people who store important files on their local machine rather than the server , after several hard drive crashes that proved they were disobeying the directive to not do this , we now employ folder redirection .
How this works is that in our domain policy , certain folders ( such as My Documents ) and files ( Outlook PST 's ) are actually stored on the file server , even though it appears to be " local " to the user .
We also use the offline files feature and file synchronization in the case of notebook users so that they may have access to the files when not on our LAN.I 'm sure there is some equivalent way to do this on a Mac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Disable file shares on workstations.
Use a file server.
This.  We use Windows servers, but for designers and other people who store important files on their local machine rather than the server, after several hard drive crashes that proved they were disobeying the directive to not do this, we now employ folder redirection.
How this works is that in our domain policy, certain folders (such as My Documents) and files (Outlook PST's) are actually stored on the file server, even though it appears to be "local" to the user.
We also use the offline files feature and file synchronization in the case of notebook users so that they may have access to the files when not on our LAN.I'm sure there is some equivalent way to do this on a Mac.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31388894</id>
	<title>If all sivilized attempts fail</title>
	<author>RolfRomeo</author>
	<datestamp>1267972260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The board of directors/shareholders would likely be very interested to hear about such such inefficienies and poor management. Unless "owner" means he is the sole shareholder, of course.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The board of directors/shareholders would likely be very interested to hear about such such inefficienies and poor management .
Unless " owner " means he is the sole shareholder , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The board of directors/shareholders would likely be very interested to hear about such such inefficienies and poor management.
Unless "owner" means he is the sole shareholder, of course.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31376596</id>
	<title>The REAL answer ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267789500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why don't you just add a second HD to the file share system, and put the share on the second drive ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't you just add a second HD to the file share system , and put the share on the second drive ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't you just add a second HD to the file share system, and put the share on the second drive ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364554</id>
	<title>Wow, that brings back memories...</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1267705320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I used to do IT for a utility, and we had one analyst who did interesting and esoteric mathematical calculations for research.  The work was high profile and undeniably important, but like most IT departments, the person holding the bag of money had different priorities, so the analyst got a fairly high end workstation but no server resources.  He discovered that he could export his code to other Unix boxes and run it there.  He wrote sophisticated programs to seek out and exploit boxes all over the company to do his analysis.  (This was long ago -- these days he would probably be fired or even have charges brought against him.)
</p><p>
Now, a savvy person would have written the code to run their analysis in the dark of night, using unused cycles, and nobody would be the wiser.  Instead, he insisted on running this monster during regular working hours, because, you know, those are the hours he worked.
</p><p>
You can imagine the chaos.  File shares, print servers, engineer workstations, and even (gritted teeth) admin workstations would grind to a halt.
</p><p>
Appeals to the analyst in question (let's call him "Fred") were fruitless.  Fred saw his work as important and didn't see anything wrong with what he was doing.  He said that if IT needed more resources, we should buy more machines.  Which is true, except for the fundamental disconnect between what he needed and what IT was willing to purchase.
</p><p>
The policy at the time was that any Unix account could log into any machine except a select few (mail server, NIS server, etc).  Getting that policy changed was very difficult, in part, I think, because our managers didn't really understand the issue.  We finally took matters into our own hands, which led to the infamous "Fred Exclusion".  Boy, was Fred pissed.  Fortunately, the same lazy management that was partially responsible for the problem couldn't be persuaded to force us to change it back.  He left the company shortly after that and his replacement couldn't figure out his code, so the problem did eventually go away.
</p><p>
In this case, I wouldn't bother changing your workstation settings, I'd slowly, a file at a time, move your workfiles to a non-shared directory.  Or alternately, move all your files to his workstation, using the argument that he would have faster access to them, and then use his machine as a fileshare.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to do IT for a utility , and we had one analyst who did interesting and esoteric mathematical calculations for research .
The work was high profile and undeniably important , but like most IT departments , the person holding the bag of money had different priorities , so the analyst got a fairly high end workstation but no server resources .
He discovered that he could export his code to other Unix boxes and run it there .
He wrote sophisticated programs to seek out and exploit boxes all over the company to do his analysis .
( This was long ago -- these days he would probably be fired or even have charges brought against him .
) Now , a savvy person would have written the code to run their analysis in the dark of night , using unused cycles , and nobody would be the wiser .
Instead , he insisted on running this monster during regular working hours , because , you know , those are the hours he worked .
You can imagine the chaos .
File shares , print servers , engineer workstations , and even ( gritted teeth ) admin workstations would grind to a halt .
Appeals to the analyst in question ( let 's call him " Fred " ) were fruitless .
Fred saw his work as important and did n't see anything wrong with what he was doing .
He said that if IT needed more resources , we should buy more machines .
Which is true , except for the fundamental disconnect between what he needed and what IT was willing to purchase .
The policy at the time was that any Unix account could log into any machine except a select few ( mail server , NIS server , etc ) .
Getting that policy changed was very difficult , in part , I think , because our managers did n't really understand the issue .
We finally took matters into our own hands , which led to the infamous " Fred Exclusion " .
Boy , was Fred pissed .
Fortunately , the same lazy management that was partially responsible for the problem could n't be persuaded to force us to change it back .
He left the company shortly after that and his replacement could n't figure out his code , so the problem did eventually go away .
In this case , I would n't bother changing your workstation settings , I 'd slowly , a file at a time , move your workfiles to a non-shared directory .
Or alternately , move all your files to his workstation , using the argument that he would have faster access to them , and then use his machine as a fileshare .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I used to do IT for a utility, and we had one analyst who did interesting and esoteric mathematical calculations for research.
The work was high profile and undeniably important, but like most IT departments, the person holding the bag of money had different priorities, so the analyst got a fairly high end workstation but no server resources.
He discovered that he could export his code to other Unix boxes and run it there.
He wrote sophisticated programs to seek out and exploit boxes all over the company to do his analysis.
(This was long ago -- these days he would probably be fired or even have charges brought against him.
)

Now, a savvy person would have written the code to run their analysis in the dark of night, using unused cycles, and nobody would be the wiser.
Instead, he insisted on running this monster during regular working hours, because, you know, those are the hours he worked.
You can imagine the chaos.
File shares, print servers, engineer workstations, and even (gritted teeth) admin workstations would grind to a halt.
Appeals to the analyst in question (let's call him "Fred") were fruitless.
Fred saw his work as important and didn't see anything wrong with what he was doing.
He said that if IT needed more resources, we should buy more machines.
Which is true, except for the fundamental disconnect between what he needed and what IT was willing to purchase.
The policy at the time was that any Unix account could log into any machine except a select few (mail server, NIS server, etc).
Getting that policy changed was very difficult, in part, I think, because our managers didn't really understand the issue.
We finally took matters into our own hands, which led to the infamous "Fred Exclusion".
Boy, was Fred pissed.
Fortunately, the same lazy management that was partially responsible for the problem couldn't be persuaded to force us to change it back.
He left the company shortly after that and his replacement couldn't figure out his code, so the problem did eventually go away.
In this case, I wouldn't bother changing your workstation settings, I'd slowly, a file at a time, move your workfiles to a non-shared directory.
Or alternately, move all your files to his workstation, using the argument that he would have faster access to them, and then use his machine as a fileshare.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362964</id>
	<title>Throttle the port.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267698540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>You have to throttle the port the file sharing is running on. Probably 548 or/and 427. To throttle these ports you have to go into terminal and type this:<br> <br>sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 15KByte/s <br>sudo ipfw add 1 pipe 1 src-port 548<br> <br>To remove the throttling just type:<br>sudo ipfw delete 1 <br> <br>Source: <a href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736" title="macosxhints.com">http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736</a> [macosxhints.com] <br>http://homepage.mac.com/car1son/static\_port\_fwd\_firewall.html</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have to throttle the port the file sharing is running on .
Probably 548 or/and 427 .
To throttle these ports you have to go into terminal and type this : sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 15KByte/s sudo ipfw add 1 pipe 1 src-port 548 To remove the throttling just type : sudo ipfw delete 1 Source : http : //www.macosxhints.com/article.php ? story = 20080119112509736 [ macosxhints.com ] http : //homepage.mac.com/car1son/static \ _port \ _fwd \ _firewall.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have to throttle the port the file sharing is running on.
Probably 548 or/and 427.
To throttle these ports you have to go into terminal and type this: sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 15KByte/s sudo ipfw add 1 pipe 1 src-port 548 To remove the throttling just type:sudo ipfw delete 1  Source: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736 [macosxhints.com] http://homepage.mac.com/car1son/static\_port\_fwd\_firewall.html</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31366448</id>
	<title>Re:Explain</title>
	<author>Wayne247</author>
	<datestamp>1267718280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As I've just finished reading the whole thread at threshold 4, you're the first poster that actually gets it. They're not using local storage because they're idiots with computars, they use local storage because nothing else does the job.</p><p>The solution is, unfortunately, not possible for this guy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As I 've just finished reading the whole thread at threshold 4 , you 're the first poster that actually gets it .
They 're not using local storage because they 're idiots with computars , they use local storage because nothing else does the job.The solution is , unfortunately , not possible for this guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As I've just finished reading the whole thread at threshold 4, you're the first poster that actually gets it.
They're not using local storage because they're idiots with computars, they use local storage because nothing else does the job.The solution is, unfortunately, not possible for this guy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363504</id>
	<title>Re:wrong*2==right</title>
	<author>IgnitusBoyone</author>
	<datestamp>1267700700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>plant some weed in his desk and call the cops anon.</p></div><p>To funny, I'm mulling along reading answers that really are not possible, then a few answers that are prefect to what he requested. Skip over this one not really thinking about what it said then I read the next post and suddenly bust out audibly laughing.  You have made my day better.

For the author I figure the firewall rule is his best option. I'm going to guess he doesn't have a managed switch since he didn't think of that already. A number of users bring a valid point that throttling with out approval might backfire though.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>plant some weed in his desk and call the cops anon.To funny , I 'm mulling along reading answers that really are not possible , then a few answers that are prefect to what he requested .
Skip over this one not really thinking about what it said then I read the next post and suddenly bust out audibly laughing .
You have made my day better .
For the author I figure the firewall rule is his best option .
I 'm going to guess he does n't have a managed switch since he did n't think of that already .
A number of users bring a valid point that throttling with out approval might backfire though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>plant some weed in his desk and call the cops anon.To funny, I'm mulling along reading answers that really are not possible, then a few answers that are prefect to what he requested.
Skip over this one not really thinking about what it said then I read the next post and suddenly bust out audibly laughing.
You have made my day better.
For the author I figure the firewall rule is his best option.
I'm going to guess he doesn't have a managed switch since he didn't think of that already.
A number of users bring a valid point that throttling with out approval might backfire though.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363164</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>SQLGuru</author>
	<datestamp>1267699260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Create a link from your machine to his.  Save the file local to his machine instead of yours (via the link).  Share out your link to him.  He'll actually be taking the long way around back to his own box.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Create a link from your machine to his .
Save the file local to his machine instead of yours ( via the link ) .
Share out your link to him .
He 'll actually be taking the long way around back to his own box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Create a link from your machine to his.
Save the file local to his machine instead of yours (via the link).
Share out your link to him.
He'll actually be taking the long way around back to his own box.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362634</id>
	<title>Yesno</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267697520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>nt</htmltext>
<tokenext>nt</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nt</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362780</id>
	<title>File Permissions</title>
	<author>DownWithTheMan</author>
	<datestamp>1267697940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not just set the file permissions to not allow write access - then said director will be forced to work on and save files locally..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just set the file permissions to not allow write access - then said director will be forced to work on and save files locally. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just set the file permissions to not allow write access - then said director will be forced to work on and save files locally..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363974</id>
	<title>A few thoughts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267702920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell him how you believe his use is impacting your machine. Perhaps he doesn't know it?</p><p>If you have admin on your box, setup his account limits to 1 open file at a time. His SMB login will use 1 file, so we won't be able to open another.<br>Setup disk quotas for his account.  200KB should be enough.<br>Maxlogins may be another setting that helps.<br>Unplug your network cord when it gets slow. He'll love that. It is easier on you than rebooting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell him how you believe his use is impacting your machine .
Perhaps he does n't know it ? If you have admin on your box , setup his account limits to 1 open file at a time .
His SMB login will use 1 file , so we wo n't be able to open another.Setup disk quotas for his account .
200KB should be enough.Maxlogins may be another setting that helps.Unplug your network cord when it gets slow .
He 'll love that .
It is easier on you than rebooting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell him how you believe his use is impacting your machine.
Perhaps he doesn't know it?If you have admin on your box, setup his account limits to 1 open file at a time.
His SMB login will use 1 file, so we won't be able to open another.Setup disk quotas for his account.
200KB should be enough.Maxlogins may be another setting that helps.Unplug your network cord when it gets slow.
He'll love that.
It is easier on you than rebooting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364890</id>
	<title>The ACTUAL Solution</title>
	<author>TheFaithfulStone</author>
	<datestamp>1267706880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Use Version Cue.  You already have it.  It comes with creative suite.

If you don't have a server, and don't have the money for one, you can install it on the individual work stations, and it "looks" like you're working off of individual Macs - but what is ACTUALLY happening is copy down, copy back, but only the different bits (at least in CS3 and above.)

It's ludicrously easy to administer, and it can hold a ton of (design) data before it starts to complain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Use Version Cue .
You already have it .
It comes with creative suite .
If you do n't have a server , and do n't have the money for one , you can install it on the individual work stations , and it " looks " like you 're working off of individual Macs - but what is ACTUALLY happening is copy down , copy back , but only the different bits ( at least in CS3 and above .
) It 's ludicrously easy to administer , and it can hold a ton of ( design ) data before it starts to complain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use Version Cue.
You already have it.
It comes with creative suite.
If you don't have a server, and don't have the money for one, you can install it on the individual work stations, and it "looks" like you're working off of individual Macs - but what is ACTUALLY happening is copy down, copy back, but only the different bits (at least in CS3 and above.
)

It's ludicrously easy to administer, and it can hold a ton of (design) data before it starts to complain.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367752</id>
	<title>file sharing stupidity</title>
	<author>pydev</author>
	<datestamp>1267728480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In part, this is a problem with the file sharing protocols the Mac uses.  Good protocols cache the file locally (while still ensuring consistency) so that this kind of usage works efficiently.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In part , this is a problem with the file sharing protocols the Mac uses .
Good protocols cache the file locally ( while still ensuring consistency ) so that this kind of usage works efficiently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In part, this is a problem with the file sharing protocols the Mac uses.
Good protocols cache the file locally (while still ensuring consistency) so that this kind of usage works efficiently.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362720</id>
	<title>Explain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267697760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it not possible to explain to this person the negative impact that his actions have?  You explained it to us with one sentence:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>In so doing, he causes the designer's computer to grind to a near-halt as the harddrive is now tasked with his open/save requests along with whatever the designer is doing.</p></div><p>Right after that line you say he doesn't see anything wrong with it.  Have you not explained this to him?</p><p>And why are you sharing every workstation instead of using a single file server?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it not possible to explain to this person the negative impact that his actions have ?
You explained it to us with one sentence : In so doing , he causes the designer 's computer to grind to a near-halt as the harddrive is now tasked with his open/save requests along with whatever the designer is doing.Right after that line you say he does n't see anything wrong with it .
Have you not explained this to him ? And why are you sharing every workstation instead of using a single file server ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it not possible to explain to this person the negative impact that his actions have?
You explained it to us with one sentence:In so doing, he causes the designer's computer to grind to a near-halt as the harddrive is now tasked with his open/save requests along with whatever the designer is doing.Right after that line you say he doesn't see anything wrong with it.
Have you not explained this to him?And why are you sharing every workstation instead of using a single file server?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363928</id>
	<title>Re:Explain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267702740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clearly not the case here. The offender is already working across the network, so clearly moving the files to a file server would not slow his access down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly not the case here .
The offender is already working across the network , so clearly moving the files to a file server would not slow his access down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly not the case here.
The offender is already working across the network, so clearly moving the files to a file server would not slow his access down.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363434</id>
	<title>Brilliant!</title>
	<author>LS1 Brains</author>
	<datestamp>1267700340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just set the network card to 10-base-T, half duplex.  The problem aught to solve itself!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just set the network card to 10-base-T , half duplex .
The problem aught to solve itself !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just set the network card to 10-base-T, half duplex.
The problem aught to solve itself!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362744</id>
	<title>Location, Location, Location</title>
	<author>pete-classic</author>
	<datestamp>1267697880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Store all the files on the offendor's computer.  Let the other designers work off of his computer.  Done!</p><p>But seriously, why should anyone be able to access anyone else's files?  Secure everyone's computer.  You should put shared files on a shared <a href="http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MC408LL/A?mco=MTM3NTAyODU" title="apple.com">file server</a> [apple.com].</p><p>And why not use revision control?</p><p>-Peter</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Store all the files on the offendor 's computer .
Let the other designers work off of his computer .
Done ! But seriously , why should anyone be able to access anyone else 's files ?
Secure everyone 's computer .
You should put shared files on a shared file server [ apple.com ] .And why not use revision control ? -Peter</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Store all the files on the offendor's computer.
Let the other designers work off of his computer.
Done!But seriously, why should anyone be able to access anyone else's files?
Secure everyone's computer.
You should put shared files on a shared file server [apple.com].And why not use revision control?-Peter</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362936</id>
	<title>Use IPFW, its built in</title>
	<author>gbrandt</author>
	<datestamp>1267698480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OS X uses ipfw as its firewall.   Look up 'ipfw throttling' in google.  If you don't want to edit ipfw files by hand, hunt out WaterRoof as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OS X uses ipfw as its firewall .
Look up 'ipfw throttling ' in google .
If you do n't want to edit ipfw files by hand , hunt out WaterRoof as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OS X uses ipfw as its firewall.
Look up 'ipfw throttling' in google.
If you don't want to edit ipfw files by hand, hunt out WaterRoof as well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31365380</id>
	<title>Smileys!</title>
	<author>Jahava</author>
	<datestamp>1267709820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Google searches have revealed nothing helpful (maybe I should Bing it...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) so I was hoping someone with more technical expertise on Slashdot could offer a suggestion.</p></div><p>Sorry, I can't <a href="http://xkcd.com/541/" title="xkcd.com">help myself</a> [xkcd.com]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) And now, in the interest of contributing positively (as opposed to <em>not at all</em>):</p><p>I'm assuming that the bottleneck is either network- or disk-bound (I wouldn't think the CPU could be unusably stressed supporting either of the transfer rates of the aforementioned devices). If it is disk-bound, you may benefit by working off of a different disk and using a nightly script to resynchronize your filesystems. Of course, put the shared folder that he accesses on the <em>other</em> disk<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... not your main disk<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... so you can read your OS's files in peace. If you don't have two disks available, buy a $100 external USB disk or something.</p><p>If you have some resources available, you can take the alternative path of turning <em>your</em> machine into the file server. Acquire a file server machine, configure it with your IP address and shares, copy your data over to it, and fire up your designer machine with a different IP address. Of course, this would make it so you now have to share those resources with the other guy, but perhaps that implicit throttling will highlight the need for the real solution: a file server.</p><p>Best of luck.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google searches have revealed nothing helpful ( maybe I should Bing it... : ) so I was hoping someone with more technical expertise on Slashdot could offer a suggestion.Sorry , I ca n't help myself [ xkcd.com ] : ) And now , in the interest of contributing positively ( as opposed to not at all ) : I 'm assuming that the bottleneck is either network- or disk-bound ( I would n't think the CPU could be unusably stressed supporting either of the transfer rates of the aforementioned devices ) .
If it is disk-bound , you may benefit by working off of a different disk and using a nightly script to resynchronize your filesystems .
Of course , put the shared folder that he accesses on the other disk ... not your main disk ... so you can read your OS 's files in peace .
If you do n't have two disks available , buy a $ 100 external USB disk or something.If you have some resources available , you can take the alternative path of turning your machine into the file server .
Acquire a file server machine , configure it with your IP address and shares , copy your data over to it , and fire up your designer machine with a different IP address .
Of course , this would make it so you now have to share those resources with the other guy , but perhaps that implicit throttling will highlight the need for the real solution : a file server.Best of luck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google searches have revealed nothing helpful (maybe I should Bing it... :) so I was hoping someone with more technical expertise on Slashdot could offer a suggestion.Sorry, I can't help myself [xkcd.com] :) And now, in the interest of contributing positively (as opposed to not at all):I'm assuming that the bottleneck is either network- or disk-bound (I wouldn't think the CPU could be unusably stressed supporting either of the transfer rates of the aforementioned devices).
If it is disk-bound, you may benefit by working off of a different disk and using a nightly script to resynchronize your filesystems.
Of course, put the shared folder that he accesses on the other disk ... not your main disk ... so you can read your OS's files in peace.
If you don't have two disks available, buy a $100 external USB disk or something.If you have some resources available, you can take the alternative path of turning your machine into the file server.
Acquire a file server machine, configure it with your IP address and shares, copy your data over to it, and fire up your designer machine with a different IP address.
Of course, this would make it so you now have to share those resources with the other guy, but perhaps that implicit throttling will highlight the need for the real solution: a file server.Best of luck.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362846</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267698180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AC is dead on.  You'll look good for making everything "easier to manage" and you'll get this tool off your back.  Of course, if that's not an option (let's face it, if it's a small shop spending money isn't a high priority), then use toolbox's system as the central repository until you can get it justified.</p><p>Based on your summary here - You're not terribly fond of the boss and the director either.  Are you looking at moving elsewhere in or out of the company?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AC is dead on .
You 'll look good for making everything " easier to manage " and you 'll get this tool off your back .
Of course , if that 's not an option ( let 's face it , if it 's a small shop spending money is n't a high priority ) , then use toolbox 's system as the central repository until you can get it justified.Based on your summary here - You 're not terribly fond of the boss and the director either .
Are you looking at moving elsewhere in or out of the company ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AC is dead on.
You'll look good for making everything "easier to manage" and you'll get this tool off your back.
Of course, if that's not an option (let's face it, if it's a small shop spending money isn't a high priority), then use toolbox's system as the central repository until you can get it justified.Based on your summary here - You're not terribly fond of the boss and the director either.
Are you looking at moving elsewhere in or out of the company?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31379438</id>
	<title>dedicated machine?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267866420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Arm, did i miss something?<br>why not use dedicated machine?<br>so both designer and and son can access same thing without slowing designers pc down?<br>even simple nas solution may suffice?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Arm , did i miss something ? why not use dedicated machine ? so both designer and and son can access same thing without slowing designers pc down ? even simple nas solution may suffice ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Arm, did i miss something?why not use dedicated machine?so both designer and and son can access same thing without slowing designers pc down?even simple nas solution may suffice?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31370586</id>
	<title>Re:Explain</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1267802520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're going to write a tl;dr summary, put it at the *top* so people don't have to go through the too long version to read it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're going to write a tl ; dr summary , put it at the * top * so people do n't have to go through the too long version to read it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're going to write a tl;dr summary, put it at the *top* so people don't have to go through the too long version to read it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364024</id>
	<title>Re:Be assertive</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1267703160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think this deserves a warning, though: some people are unreasonable.
</p><p>Depending on how reasonable the owner is, it might be that absolutely nothing will solve the problem.  Any reasonable argument, no matter how valid it is, even if it's a clear business case about cost, can easily be shot down or ignored by someone who isn't reasonable.  People often aren't reasonable about their own family.
</p><p>For example, here's a very possible (condensed) scenario:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>You go to the owner with this sort of argument, and he says, "Go ahead and do the last one.  Inform the Production Director that he shouldn't access people's hard drives anymore."
</p><p>You say, "Well I'm not sure it's my place to manage the Production Director.  Perhaps you'd like to inform him?"
</p><p>To which he responds, "No, I'm asking you to do it."
</p><p>You go ahead and clarify, "Ok, so I'm going to inform [his son], the Production Director, that he should change his workflow."
</p><p>"Yes, go ahead.  I want you to really enforce this rule strictly in order to save money.  If he gives you any trouble, really yell at him."
</p><p>So you go back and you inform the owner's son that he should change his workflow, and he gives you a dirty look and yells at you.  Half an hour later, while trying to figure out how to handle things, you get called into the owners office.
</p><p>"It has come to my attention that you and [his son] aren't getting along too well.  He said you're being unreasonable and asking him to change his workflow.  What's that about?" he asks.
</p><p>"Ah, yes.  If you remember, we talked about that.  You said I should ask him to change his workflow...?"
</p><p>"Um... yes, I think I must have misunderstood.  Look, I don't know where you get off making these unreasonable decisions all on your own without consulting anyone.  According to my son, you're a lying poopy-head.  You'd better straighten out right now, or you're in trouble."
</p><p>"But... I don't understand.  What would you like me to do, then?"
</p><p>"Just make things work however [his son] tells you to and leave me out of it."</p></div><p>Sorry if that's not exactly clear, but my point is, if your actions in any way mar your boss's ego or his son's ego, you'll probably get yourself into trouble.  It might not be reasonable, but people in a position of power don't necessarily need to be reasonable.  I've seen many small business owners who would allow their whole business to tank rather than swallow their pride.  Be careful.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this deserves a warning , though : some people are unreasonable .
Depending on how reasonable the owner is , it might be that absolutely nothing will solve the problem .
Any reasonable argument , no matter how valid it is , even if it 's a clear business case about cost , can easily be shot down or ignored by someone who is n't reasonable .
People often are n't reasonable about their own family .
For example , here 's a very possible ( condensed ) scenario : You go to the owner with this sort of argument , and he says , " Go ahead and do the last one .
Inform the Production Director that he should n't access people 's hard drives anymore .
" You say , " Well I 'm not sure it 's my place to manage the Production Director .
Perhaps you 'd like to inform him ?
" To which he responds , " No , I 'm asking you to do it .
" You go ahead and clarify , " Ok , so I 'm going to inform [ his son ] , the Production Director , that he should change his workflow .
" " Yes , go ahead .
I want you to really enforce this rule strictly in order to save money .
If he gives you any trouble , really yell at him .
" So you go back and you inform the owner 's son that he should change his workflow , and he gives you a dirty look and yells at you .
Half an hour later , while trying to figure out how to handle things , you get called into the owners office .
" It has come to my attention that you and [ his son ] are n't getting along too well .
He said you 're being unreasonable and asking him to change his workflow .
What 's that about ?
" he asks .
" Ah , yes .
If you remember , we talked about that .
You said I should ask him to change his workflow... ?
" " Um... yes , I think I must have misunderstood .
Look , I do n't know where you get off making these unreasonable decisions all on your own without consulting anyone .
According to my son , you 're a lying poopy-head .
You 'd better straighten out right now , or you 're in trouble .
" " But... I do n't understand .
What would you like me to do , then ?
" " Just make things work however [ his son ] tells you to and leave me out of it .
" Sorry if that 's not exactly clear , but my point is , if your actions in any way mar your boss 's ego or his son 's ego , you 'll probably get yourself into trouble .
It might not be reasonable , but people in a position of power do n't necessarily need to be reasonable .
I 've seen many small business owners who would allow their whole business to tank rather than swallow their pride .
Be careful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this deserves a warning, though: some people are unreasonable.
Depending on how reasonable the owner is, it might be that absolutely nothing will solve the problem.
Any reasonable argument, no matter how valid it is, even if it's a clear business case about cost, can easily be shot down or ignored by someone who isn't reasonable.
People often aren't reasonable about their own family.
For example, here's a very possible (condensed) scenario:You go to the owner with this sort of argument, and he says, "Go ahead and do the last one.
Inform the Production Director that he shouldn't access people's hard drives anymore.
"
You say, "Well I'm not sure it's my place to manage the Production Director.
Perhaps you'd like to inform him?
"
To which he responds, "No, I'm asking you to do it.
"
You go ahead and clarify, "Ok, so I'm going to inform [his son], the Production Director, that he should change his workflow.
"
"Yes, go ahead.
I want you to really enforce this rule strictly in order to save money.
If he gives you any trouble, really yell at him.
"
So you go back and you inform the owner's son that he should change his workflow, and he gives you a dirty look and yells at you.
Half an hour later, while trying to figure out how to handle things, you get called into the owners office.
"It has come to my attention that you and [his son] aren't getting along too well.
He said you're being unreasonable and asking him to change his workflow.
What's that about?
" he asks.
"Ah, yes.
If you remember, we talked about that.
You said I should ask him to change his workflow...?
"
"Um... yes, I think I must have misunderstood.
Look, I don't know where you get off making these unreasonable decisions all on your own without consulting anyone.
According to my son, you're a lying poopy-head.
You'd better straighten out right now, or you're in trouble.
"
"But... I don't understand.
What would you like me to do, then?
"
"Just make things work however [his son] tells you to and leave me out of it.
"Sorry if that's not exactly clear, but my point is, if your actions in any way mar your boss's ego or his son's ego, you'll probably get yourself into trouble.
It might not be reasonable, but people in a position of power don't necessarily need to be reasonable.
I've seen many small business owners who would allow their whole business to tank rather than swallow their pride.
Be careful.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31368258</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>centuren</author>
	<datestamp>1267820820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>AC is dead on.  You'll look good for making everything "easier to manage" and you'll get this tool off your back.  Of course, if that's not an option (let's face it, if it's a small shop spending money isn't a high priority), then use toolbox's system as the central repository until you can get it justified.</p><p>Based on your summary here - You're not terribly fond of the boss and the director either.  Are you looking at moving elsewhere in or out of the company?</p></div><p>In my experience with PHBs in small company environments, the "easy to manage" aspect of file servers and version control is appealing, but adding steps (no matter how basic) to their work flow doesn't end up being popular. Why check something in and out when he can just edit it? (So goes the thought process, I suppose.)</p><p>You can try it, but if it doesn't work out, forget responsible solutions like central repository and find a way that lets him muck about but keeps your system responsive. Rsync your files to his computer every morning and tell him he's got the current version, then just rsync the next day again, with your work overwriting his if you happened to work on the same files (which won't necessarily be the case). How that stuff happens is a mystery, you know.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>AC is dead on .
You 'll look good for making everything " easier to manage " and you 'll get this tool off your back .
Of course , if that 's not an option ( let 's face it , if it 's a small shop spending money is n't a high priority ) , then use toolbox 's system as the central repository until you can get it justified.Based on your summary here - You 're not terribly fond of the boss and the director either .
Are you looking at moving elsewhere in or out of the company ? In my experience with PHBs in small company environments , the " easy to manage " aspect of file servers and version control is appealing , but adding steps ( no matter how basic ) to their work flow does n't end up being popular .
Why check something in and out when he can just edit it ?
( So goes the thought process , I suppose .
) You can try it , but if it does n't work out , forget responsible solutions like central repository and find a way that lets him muck about but keeps your system responsive .
Rsync your files to his computer every morning and tell him he 's got the current version , then just rsync the next day again , with your work overwriting his if you happened to work on the same files ( which wo n't necessarily be the case ) .
How that stuff happens is a mystery , you know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AC is dead on.
You'll look good for making everything "easier to manage" and you'll get this tool off your back.
Of course, if that's not an option (let's face it, if it's a small shop spending money isn't a high priority), then use toolbox's system as the central repository until you can get it justified.Based on your summary here - You're not terribly fond of the boss and the director either.
Are you looking at moving elsewhere in or out of the company?In my experience with PHBs in small company environments, the "easy to manage" aspect of file servers and version control is appealing, but adding steps (no matter how basic) to their work flow doesn't end up being popular.
Why check something in and out when he can just edit it?
(So goes the thought process, I suppose.
)You can try it, but if it doesn't work out, forget responsible solutions like central repository and find a way that lets him muck about but keeps your system responsive.
Rsync your files to his computer every morning and tell him he's got the current version, then just rsync the next day again, with your work overwriting his if you happened to work on the same files (which won't necessarily be the case).
How that stuff happens is a mystery, you know.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363698</id>
	<title>throttle</title>
	<author>mellon85</author>
	<datestamp>1267701600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Limit his ip speed with ipfw to something reasonable, and you'll be fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Limit his ip speed with ipfw to something reasonable , and you 'll be fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Limit his ip speed with ipfw to something reasonable, and you'll be fine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364328</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>cyberzephyr</author>
	<datestamp>1267704420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are sooo correct!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are sooo correct !
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are sooo correct!
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363300</id>
	<title>Re:ipfw</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1267699740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can configure a firewall rate limiting statement based on source ip address using ipfw. Then just have an applescript that toggles this than can be run as soon as you notice the computer getting slow.</p></div><p>For bonus points, use fail2ban or similar to detect the slowness from some log or script, and have it apply the ipfw statement for 10 minute intervals.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can configure a firewall rate limiting statement based on source ip address using ipfw .
Then just have an applescript that toggles this than can be run as soon as you notice the computer getting slow.For bonus points , use fail2ban or similar to detect the slowness from some log or script , and have it apply the ipfw statement for 10 minute intervals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can configure a firewall rate limiting statement based on source ip address using ipfw.
Then just have an applescript that toggles this than can be run as soon as you notice the computer getting slow.For bonus points, use fail2ban or similar to detect the slowness from some log or script, and have it apply the ipfw statement for 10 minute intervals.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362792</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363088</id>
	<title>Lag Switch</title>
	<author>KevMar</author>
	<datestamp>1267698960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give a few people lag switches.</p><p><a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=lag+switch" title="google.com">http://images.google.com/images?q=lag+switch</a> [google.com]</p><p>it is a button on a network cord that when you press it the cord stops working. If he is working on another machine and it keeps giving him network errors, he will figure out another way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give a few people lag switches.http : //images.google.com/images ? q = lag + switch [ google.com ] it is a button on a network cord that when you press it the cord stops working .
If he is working on another machine and it keeps giving him network errors , he will figure out another way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give a few people lag switches.http://images.google.com/images?q=lag+switch [google.com]it is a button on a network cord that when you press it the cord stops working.
If he is working on another machine and it keeps giving him network errors, he will figure out another way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367490</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267725900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>after reading a lot of replies the obvious answer presents itself</p><p>reach around the back of the computer and unplug the ethernet cable for a few seconds whenever your computer slows down</p><p>then plug back in when you feel like a coffee break</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>after reading a lot of replies the obvious answer presents itselfreach around the back of the computer and unplug the ethernet cable for a few seconds whenever your computer slows downthen plug back in when you feel like a coffee break</tokentext>
<sentencetext>after reading a lot of replies the obvious answer presents itselfreach around the back of the computer and unplug the ethernet cable for a few seconds whenever your computer slows downthen plug back in when you feel like a coffee break</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363074</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like info is missing, but here goes</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1267698960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, when you're dealing with disk I/O, you can have processes that use little CPU but severely degrade disk performance by beating on the disk.</p><p>Even if it's at low priority, any seeks at all to a part of the drive that normally wouldn't be accessed will hurt performance.</p><p>It's not a case of "90\% of the disk throughput for app A and 10\% for B" - the moment you introduce B, the total performance drops significantly due to seeking coming into play.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , when you 're dealing with disk I/O , you can have processes that use little CPU but severely degrade disk performance by beating on the disk.Even if it 's at low priority , any seeks at all to a part of the drive that normally would n't be accessed will hurt performance.It 's not a case of " 90 \ % of the disk throughput for app A and 10 \ % for B " - the moment you introduce B , the total performance drops significantly due to seeking coming into play .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, when you're dealing with disk I/O, you can have processes that use little CPU but severely degrade disk performance by beating on the disk.Even if it's at low priority, any seeks at all to a part of the drive that normally wouldn't be accessed will hurt performance.It's not a case of "90\% of the disk throughput for app A and 10\% for B" - the moment you introduce B, the total performance drops significantly due to seeking coming into play.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31368354</id>
	<title>solve the problem not the symptom</title>
	<author>TRRosen</author>
	<datestamp>1267822020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make sure all of juniors stupidity effects the owner as much as you. Oh and make sure everything is juniors fault.</p><p>Missed the deadline...Junior deleted the files.</p><p>Owners don't care about your problems but they do care about theirs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make sure all of juniors stupidity effects the owner as much as you .
Oh and make sure everything is juniors fault.Missed the deadline...Junior deleted the files.Owners do n't care about your problems but they do care about theirs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make sure all of juniors stupidity effects the owner as much as you.
Oh and make sure everything is juniors fault.Missed the deadline...Junior deleted the files.Owners don't care about your problems but they do care about theirs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362850</id>
	<title>Samba, or replace eithernet cable with phone cable</title>
	<author>Hadlock</author>
	<datestamp>1267698180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Install Samba from something like Darwinports or Fink, and then assign the samba process a max of 0.001\% cpu time.<br>
&nbsp; <br>The other option is to share the images folder off a secondary eithernet card (how??), and connect the secondary eithernet card to the router using 100' of phone cable crimped into RJ-45 connectors for maximum latency.<br>
&nbsp; <br>If you want to increase his latency even more, connect that phone cable-come-eithernet cable to a dumb 10mb (not 10/100, but <b>ten</b> mbps) hub, add two other computers constantly pushing a dummy load of traffic across it, and then run a crossover cable to the router with another computer transfering data over the crossover cable to maximize the number of hub collisions. <br>
&nbsp; <br>We used to get together in high school and connect two dumb hubs together with a crossover cable and have about 15 people attempt to play games together using the setup described above. It hardly ever worked, which is why I'm suggesting it to you. Sucking a 30mb<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.psd file over high latency 10mbps phoneline-come-eithernet will teach anyone a lesson<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Install Samba from something like Darwinports or Fink , and then assign the samba process a max of 0.001 \ % cpu time .
  The other option is to share the images folder off a secondary eithernet card ( how ? ?
) , and connect the secondary eithernet card to the router using 100 ' of phone cable crimped into RJ-45 connectors for maximum latency .
  If you want to increase his latency even more , connect that phone cable-come-eithernet cable to a dumb 10mb ( not 10/100 , but ten mbps ) hub , add two other computers constantly pushing a dummy load of traffic across it , and then run a crossover cable to the router with another computer transfering data over the crossover cable to maximize the number of hub collisions .
  We used to get together in high school and connect two dumb hubs together with a crossover cable and have about 15 people attempt to play games together using the setup described above .
It hardly ever worked , which is why I 'm suggesting it to you .
Sucking a 30mb .psd file over high latency 10mbps phoneline-come-eithernet will teach anyone a lesson : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Install Samba from something like Darwinports or Fink, and then assign the samba process a max of 0.001\% cpu time.
  The other option is to share the images folder off a secondary eithernet card (how??
), and connect the secondary eithernet card to the router using 100' of phone cable crimped into RJ-45 connectors for maximum latency.
  If you want to increase his latency even more, connect that phone cable-come-eithernet cable to a dumb 10mb (not 10/100, but ten mbps) hub, add two other computers constantly pushing a dummy load of traffic across it, and then run a crossover cable to the router with another computer transfering data over the crossover cable to maximize the number of hub collisions.
  We used to get together in high school and connect two dumb hubs together with a crossover cable and have about 15 people attempt to play games together using the setup described above.
It hardly ever worked, which is why I'm suggesting it to you.
Sucking a 30mb .psd file over high latency 10mbps phoneline-come-eithernet will teach anyone a lesson :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362796</id>
	<title>Rsync, Freenas, or dropbox</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267698060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably not the answer you're looking for, but you can build a pretty cheap NAS Box using an atom chipset and preferably 2 mirrored hard drives and have him remotely connect to that.</p><p>It's a relatively cheap solution $200-$400, however, probably not what you had in mind.</p><p>Another possibility is using a utility that syncs the files. So they'll be accessed locally regardless. I recommend rsync or if you're inclined for a quick fix dropbox works well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably not the answer you 're looking for , but you can build a pretty cheap NAS Box using an atom chipset and preferably 2 mirrored hard drives and have him remotely connect to that.It 's a relatively cheap solution $ 200- $ 400 , however , probably not what you had in mind.Another possibility is using a utility that syncs the files .
So they 'll be accessed locally regardless .
I recommend rsync or if you 're inclined for a quick fix dropbox works well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably not the answer you're looking for, but you can build a pretty cheap NAS Box using an atom chipset and preferably 2 mirrored hard drives and have him remotely connect to that.It's a relatively cheap solution $200-$400, however, probably not what you had in mind.Another possibility is using a utility that syncs the files.
So they'll be accessed locally regardless.
I recommend rsync or if you're inclined for a quick fix dropbox works well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362712</id>
	<title>Another job</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267697760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you thought about looking for a job with less familial douche baggery?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you thought about looking for a job with less familial douche baggery ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you thought about looking for a job with less familial douche baggery?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363874</id>
	<title>Solving the real problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267702440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate to say this, but this falls into the typical situation I see all the time in technology.</p><p>"You will never be able to solve a social problem with technology".  Attempting to do so gives you a false sense of security in solving the real issue.</p><p>Aka:  Solve technical problems technically, and social problems socially.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate to say this , but this falls into the typical situation I see all the time in technology .
" You will never be able to solve a social problem with technology " .
Attempting to do so gives you a false sense of security in solving the real issue.Aka : Solve technical problems technically , and social problems socially .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate to say this, but this falls into the typical situation I see all the time in technology.
"You will never be able to solve a social problem with technology".
Attempting to do so gives you a false sense of security in solving the real issue.Aka:  Solve technical problems technically, and social problems socially.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363026</id>
	<title>Be assertive</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267698780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This twit isn't your problem. Throttling him on your own initiative is both passive-aggressive and might overstep what the owner expects, which could land you in hot water. Don't do that. Here's what you do instead. Go to the owner's office and say the following:</p><blockquote><div><p>I've been receiving complaints from some of the design staff about their computers slowing down and interfering with their work. The cause of the problem is the Production Director accessing files on designers' computers instead of copying them to his own. The hard drives on designer computers are not designed to accommodate two users accessing the files at once.</p><p>These slowdowns will persist unless we take action to correct the problem. If these remote accesses continue, we will need to increase the capacity of each designer's workstation at a cost of $A per machine for a total of $B. Another option would be to limit these remote accesses by implementing an automatic throttling system. That will take C hours of my time [optionally: at cost $D]." The last, which I recommend, is to create a new workflow for the Production Manager that ensures that designer computers are not overloaded.</p><p>What is your decision?</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This twit is n't your problem .
Throttling him on your own initiative is both passive-aggressive and might overstep what the owner expects , which could land you in hot water .
Do n't do that .
Here 's what you do instead .
Go to the owner 's office and say the following : I 've been receiving complaints from some of the design staff about their computers slowing down and interfering with their work .
The cause of the problem is the Production Director accessing files on designers ' computers instead of copying them to his own .
The hard drives on designer computers are not designed to accommodate two users accessing the files at once.These slowdowns will persist unless we take action to correct the problem .
If these remote accesses continue , we will need to increase the capacity of each designer 's workstation at a cost of $ A per machine for a total of $ B .
Another option would be to limit these remote accesses by implementing an automatic throttling system .
That will take C hours of my time [ optionally : at cost $ D ] .
" The last , which I recommend , is to create a new workflow for the Production Manager that ensures that designer computers are not overloaded.What is your decision ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This twit isn't your problem.
Throttling him on your own initiative is both passive-aggressive and might overstep what the owner expects, which could land you in hot water.
Don't do that.
Here's what you do instead.
Go to the owner's office and say the following:I've been receiving complaints from some of the design staff about their computers slowing down and interfering with their work.
The cause of the problem is the Production Director accessing files on designers' computers instead of copying them to his own.
The hard drives on designer computers are not designed to accommodate two users accessing the files at once.These slowdowns will persist unless we take action to correct the problem.
If these remote accesses continue, we will need to increase the capacity of each designer's workstation at a cost of $A per machine for a total of $B.
Another option would be to limit these remote accesses by implementing an automatic throttling system.
That will take C hours of my time [optionally: at cost $D].
" The last, which I recommend, is to create a new workflow for the Production Manager that ensures that designer computers are not overloaded.What is your decision?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362736</id>
	<title>Smart</title>
	<author>TSIGabe</author>
	<datestamp>1267697820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Put the files on another computer than yours...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Put the files on another computer than yours.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Put the files on another computer than yours...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31365054</id>
	<title>Change it in Launchd</title>
	<author>DigitalGodBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1267707780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This should help:
sudo nano -w<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.AppleFileServer.plist

Add in the following lines:
        LowPriorityIO
        

This will cause the AFP server on the file share to have only spare access to the disk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This should help : sudo nano -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.AppleFileServer.plist Add in the following lines : LowPriorityIO This will cause the AFP server on the file share to have only spare access to the disk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This should help:
sudo nano -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.AppleFileServer.plist

Add in the following lines:
        LowPriorityIO
        

This will cause the AFP server on the file share to have only spare access to the disk.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363174</id>
	<title>Re:Explain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267699260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, when it comes to people working with graphics they often use local storage as their primary "work storage" because it's faster (and when you're working with lots of large files this becomes critical if you want to retain your sanity) and then they just use the server for saving backups at the end of the day and for final production work. So a lot of times the actual work copy is always stored on the local workstation, this is especially true when dealing with video/animation as you can easily end up with insane amounts of data, if you're working on uncompressed 1080p video rendered as independent targa images (so you can easily re-render specific short runs of frames, very common when working with software like Maya and 3dsmax) you may be looking at roughly 7 GiB of data for 30 seconds of video (8 bit color with alpha and 30 fps), not the kind of thing you want to be pushing back and forth across the network all the time (even if you're just copying the data that's changed it ends up being pretty heavy).</p><p>tl;dr: People who work with CGI have datasets and a workflow that don't work well with using servers for data storage other than as an easy way to backup data.</p><p>/Mikael</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , when it comes to people working with graphics they often use local storage as their primary " work storage " because it 's faster ( and when you 're working with lots of large files this becomes critical if you want to retain your sanity ) and then they just use the server for saving backups at the end of the day and for final production work .
So a lot of times the actual work copy is always stored on the local workstation , this is especially true when dealing with video/animation as you can easily end up with insane amounts of data , if you 're working on uncompressed 1080p video rendered as independent targa images ( so you can easily re-render specific short runs of frames , very common when working with software like Maya and 3dsmax ) you may be looking at roughly 7 GiB of data for 30 seconds of video ( 8 bit color with alpha and 30 fps ) , not the kind of thing you want to be pushing back and forth across the network all the time ( even if you 're just copying the data that 's changed it ends up being pretty heavy ) .tl ; dr : People who work with CGI have datasets and a workflow that do n't work well with using servers for data storage other than as an easy way to backup data./Mikael</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, when it comes to people working with graphics they often use local storage as their primary "work storage" because it's faster (and when you're working with lots of large files this becomes critical if you want to retain your sanity) and then they just use the server for saving backups at the end of the day and for final production work.
So a lot of times the actual work copy is always stored on the local workstation, this is especially true when dealing with video/animation as you can easily end up with insane amounts of data, if you're working on uncompressed 1080p video rendered as independent targa images (so you can easily re-render specific short runs of frames, very common when working with software like Maya and 3dsmax) you may be looking at roughly 7 GiB of data for 30 seconds of video (8 bit color with alpha and 30 fps), not the kind of thing you want to be pushing back and forth across the network all the time (even if you're just copying the data that's changed it ends up being pretty heavy).tl;dr: People who work with CGI have datasets and a workflow that don't work well with using servers for data storage other than as an easy way to backup data./Mikael</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31376148</id>
	<title>Dead simple.</title>
	<author>Vrtigo1</author>
	<datestamp>1267786740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lock your ethernet port to 10 Mbps half duplex.  You should be able to do this either on your switch or your Mac.  His access to your files will become agonizingly slow, and if that isn't enough to make him stop, it won't matter much to you since transfers that slow will barely affect your Mac's CPU or hard drive.  Of course, this would also mean that your access to others' files would also be equally slow, but assuming everything you need is on your computer, you should be set.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lock your ethernet port to 10 Mbps half duplex .
You should be able to do this either on your switch or your Mac .
His access to your files will become agonizingly slow , and if that is n't enough to make him stop , it wo n't matter much to you since transfers that slow will barely affect your Mac 's CPU or hard drive .
Of course , this would also mean that your access to others ' files would also be equally slow , but assuming everything you need is on your computer , you should be set .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lock your ethernet port to 10 Mbps half duplex.
You should be able to do this either on your switch or your Mac.
His access to your files will become agonizingly slow, and if that isn't enough to make him stop, it won't matter much to you since transfers that slow will barely affect your Mac's CPU or hard drive.
Of course, this would also mean that your access to others' files would also be equally slow, but assuming everything you need is on your computer, you should be set.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364062</id>
	<title>Clone has MAC address (nic card addr)</title>
	<author>isotope23</author>
	<datestamp>1267703340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you have a machine with a spare nic:</p><p>grab has Mac address from the arp table and clone it to another NIC.<br>Guaranteed to cause fun and profit for all!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have a machine with a spare nic : grab has Mac address from the arp table and clone it to another NIC.Guaranteed to cause fun and profit for all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have a machine with a spare nic:grab has Mac address from the arp table and clone it to another NIC.Guaranteed to cause fun and profit for all!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367528</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267726260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure that will go down well when something he's been working on disappears before he can save it... Not like he won't know who did it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure that will go down well when something he 's been working on disappears before he can save it... Not like he wo n't know who did it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure that will go down well when something he's been working on disappears before he can save it... Not like he won't know who did it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363090</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31365294</id>
	<title>Re:ipfw</title>
	<author>smitty97</author>
	<datestamp>1267709280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 15KByte/s<br>sudo ipfw add 1 pipe 1 dst-port 548</p><p>more here: <a href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736" title="macosxhints.com">http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736</a> [macosxhints.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 15KByte/ssudo ipfw add 1 pipe 1 dst-port 548more here : http : //www.macosxhints.com/article.php ? story = 20080119112509736 [ macosxhints.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 15KByte/ssudo ipfw add 1 pipe 1 dst-port 548more here: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736 [macosxhints.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362792</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31411184</id>
	<title>Add another disk to your Mac Pro</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1268128440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The quickest solution is to put another disk in your Mac Pro and get him working off that. Just put in another disk, move the files over there, and then only share that disk. Then you can work off the other disk(s). A Mac Pro has 4 hot-plug slots that take standard SATA drives and a pop-open door. We are talking about possibly 5 minutes work and even a small disk may do.</p><p>The best solution is to make a server, that is less than 1 hour of work, no I-T help is required.</p><p>Cheapest way is to use an old Mac. Aren't there any old Macs around? Every Mac in the 21st century except MacBook Air has Gigabit Ethernet, and all Mac Pro can take 4 disks, and all PowerMac could take 3. How hard is it to put Leopard on an old Mac and put the files on there? In many places I have worked, the Mac Pros get demoted down to file servers. If there aren't any around, you can get a used one for almost nothing, and all you have to do is install Leopard on it and it's ready to go. Again, no I-T hours are required.</p><p>Or, Apple's AirPort base station runs OS X and all you have to do to turn it into a file server is plug on a USB disk. The files are available over Gigabit Ethernet or Wi-Fi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The quickest solution is to put another disk in your Mac Pro and get him working off that .
Just put in another disk , move the files over there , and then only share that disk .
Then you can work off the other disk ( s ) .
A Mac Pro has 4 hot-plug slots that take standard SATA drives and a pop-open door .
We are talking about possibly 5 minutes work and even a small disk may do.The best solution is to make a server , that is less than 1 hour of work , no I-T help is required.Cheapest way is to use an old Mac .
Are n't there any old Macs around ?
Every Mac in the 21st century except MacBook Air has Gigabit Ethernet , and all Mac Pro can take 4 disks , and all PowerMac could take 3 .
How hard is it to put Leopard on an old Mac and put the files on there ?
In many places I have worked , the Mac Pros get demoted down to file servers .
If there are n't any around , you can get a used one for almost nothing , and all you have to do is install Leopard on it and it 's ready to go .
Again , no I-T hours are required.Or , Apple 's AirPort base station runs OS X and all you have to do to turn it into a file server is plug on a USB disk .
The files are available over Gigabit Ethernet or Wi-Fi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The quickest solution is to put another disk in your Mac Pro and get him working off that.
Just put in another disk, move the files over there, and then only share that disk.
Then you can work off the other disk(s).
A Mac Pro has 4 hot-plug slots that take standard SATA drives and a pop-open door.
We are talking about possibly 5 minutes work and even a small disk may do.The best solution is to make a server, that is less than 1 hour of work, no I-T help is required.Cheapest way is to use an old Mac.
Aren't there any old Macs around?
Every Mac in the 21st century except MacBook Air has Gigabit Ethernet, and all Mac Pro can take 4 disks, and all PowerMac could take 3.
How hard is it to put Leopard on an old Mac and put the files on there?
In many places I have worked, the Mac Pros get demoted down to file servers.
If there aren't any around, you can get a used one for almost nothing, and all you have to do is install Leopard on it and it's ready to go.
Again, no I-T hours are required.Or, Apple's AirPort base station runs OS X and all you have to do to turn it into a file server is plug on a USB disk.
The files are available over Gigabit Ethernet or Wi-Fi.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363630</id>
	<title>Randomly-timed script</title>
	<author>Quila</author>
	<datestamp>1267701240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have it use the firewall to randomly restrict and allow access from his computer. He'll intermittently get to do what he wants.</p><p>When asked what's going on, "I don't know."</p><p>It's hard to track down seemingly random problems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have it use the firewall to randomly restrict and allow access from his computer .
He 'll intermittently get to do what he wants.When asked what 's going on , " I do n't know .
" It 's hard to track down seemingly random problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have it use the firewall to randomly restrict and allow access from his computer.
He'll intermittently get to do what he wants.When asked what's going on, "I don't know.
"It's hard to track down seemingly random problems.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31375948</id>
	<title>Share the data on a different disk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267785480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like the problem is the disk activity slows down disk access.  Try adding a USB external disk and place the shared files out there.  The system disk can run fast again and you can transport the files to his computer if you want<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like the problem is the disk activity slows down disk access .
Try adding a USB external disk and place the shared files out there .
The system disk can run fast again and you can transport the files to his computer if you want : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like the problem is the disk activity slows down disk access.
Try adding a USB external disk and place the shared files out there.
The system disk can run fast again and you can transport the files to his computer if you want :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362822</id>
	<title>Wait, What?</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1267698120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Somehow, I find it surprising that you're managing to saturate a modern hard drive via a single network connection.  Are you running extremely slow PCs on a ridiculously fast network?  The workflow that you describe sounds pretty normal for a design studio.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Somehow , I find it surprising that you 're managing to saturate a modern hard drive via a single network connection .
Are you running extremely slow PCs on a ridiculously fast network ?
The workflow that you describe sounds pretty normal for a design studio .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somehow, I find it surprising that you're managing to saturate a modern hard drive via a single network connection.
Are you running extremely slow PCs on a ridiculously fast network?
The workflow that you describe sounds pretty normal for a design studio.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363654</id>
	<title>Yes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267701360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But it requires magic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But it requires magic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it requires magic.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367868</id>
	<title>The simple answer -- set your nic to 10mb</title>
	<author>rw86347</author>
	<datestamp>1267729740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you turn off file sharing he will be pissed.  If you make it slow he will stop.  Just turn your nic card was down.  10M is plenty fast enough for surfing, but way to slow for a file browser.  After a week or two he will give up, then turn it back up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you turn off file sharing he will be pissed .
If you make it slow he will stop .
Just turn your nic card was down .
10M is plenty fast enough for surfing , but way to slow for a file browser .
After a week or two he will give up , then turn it back up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you turn off file sharing he will be pissed.
If you make it slow he will stop.
Just turn your nic card was down.
10M is plenty fast enough for surfing, but way to slow for a file browser.
After a week or two he will give up, then turn it back up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367402</id>
	<title>Network cable</title>
	<author>SoopahCell</author>
	<datestamp>1267725000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pull the network cable or disable your net connection while he's doing it. If he asks you if your machine is having problems, say no.</p><p>If everyone gets in on it at once he'll be unable to single anyone out as the cause and presume it's his machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pull the network cable or disable your net connection while he 's doing it .
If he asks you if your machine is having problems , say no.If everyone gets in on it at once he 'll be unable to single anyone out as the cause and presume it 's his machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pull the network cable or disable your net connection while he's doing it.
If he asks you if your machine is having problems, say no.If everyone gets in on it at once he'll be unable to single anyone out as the cause and presume it's his machine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31369352</id>
	<title>a hint</title>
	<author>juasko</author>
	<datestamp>1267791720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you figure it out...
<a href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736" title="macosxhints.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736</a> [macosxhints.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>you figure it out.. . http : //www.macosxhints.com/article.php ? story = 20080119112509736 [ macosxhints.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you figure it out...
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080119112509736 [macosxhints.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363740</id>
	<title>Re:Use Subversion on the machine itsself.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267701840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>we're talking designer there. they probably think of themselves as high skilled programmer because one upon a time they opened a dreamveawer file to see it's magical content with all that strange tags with strange meanings like body</htmltext>
<tokenext>we 're talking designer there .
they probably think of themselves as high skilled programmer because one upon a time they opened a dreamveawer file to see it 's magical content with all that strange tags with strange meanings like body</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we're talking designer there.
they probably think of themselves as high skilled programmer because one upon a time they opened a dreamveawer file to see it's magical content with all that strange tags with strange meanings like body</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362772</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364094</id>
	<title>A wild guess</title>
	<author>mike260</author>
	<datestamp>1267703460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's a Slashdot-reading wannabe geek, yes?<br>You posted this question knowing he'd see it, yes?<br>You were hoping the flood of ridicule would embarrass him into changing his ways, yes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's a Slashdot-reading wannabe geek , yes ? You posted this question knowing he 'd see it , yes ? You were hoping the flood of ridicule would embarrass him into changing his ways , yes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's a Slashdot-reading wannabe geek, yes?You posted this question knowing he'd see it, yes?You were hoping the flood of ridicule would embarrass him into changing his ways, yes?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363764</id>
	<title>Re:Location, Location, Location</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267702020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And why not use revision control?</p><p>-Peter</p></div><p>Because this obviously isn't a real design company and asker obviously isn't a real sysadmin. It's some kids screwing around with minimal amounts of money, I mean seriously the boss' son?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And why not use revision control ? -PeterBecause this obviously is n't a real design company and asker obviously is n't a real sysadmin .
It 's some kids screwing around with minimal amounts of money , I mean seriously the boss ' son ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And why not use revision control?-PeterBecause this obviously isn't a real design company and asker obviously isn't a real sysadmin.
It's some kids screwing around with minimal amounts of money, I mean seriously the boss' son?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362744</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363280</id>
	<title>Re:Be assertive</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267699620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>shoot up the place!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>shoot up the place !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>shoot up the place!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364408</id>
	<title>Re:Throttle the port.</title>
	<author>Trailer Trash</author>
	<datestamp>1267704720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 15KByte/s</p></div> </blockquote><p>To the original poster: googlesmith is fooling you - no need for the "K".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 15KByte/s To the original poster : googlesmith is fooling you - no need for the " K " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 15KByte/s To the original poster: googlesmith is fooling you - no need for the "K".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362774</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267697940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Disable file shares on workstations. Use a file server.</i> <br> <br>

Well, that's the correct <i>technical</i> solution, but the real, supreme, correct decision is:  Find a new job, and fast.  Nothing good has ever come from challenging a coworker who enjoys immunity, especially when it's familial.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Disable file shares on workstations .
Use a file server .
Well , that 's the correct technical solution , but the real , supreme , correct decision is : Find a new job , and fast .
Nothing good has ever come from challenging a coworker who enjoys immunity , especially when it 's familial .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disable file shares on workstations.
Use a file server.
Well, that's the correct technical solution, but the real, supreme, correct decision is:  Find a new job, and fast.
Nothing good has ever come from challenging a coworker who enjoys immunity, especially when it's familial.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31366334</id>
	<title>use dummynet under ipfw to dial back his network</title>
	<author>n4djs</author>
	<datestamp>1267717080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
read about 'dummynet' (google 'dummynet mac os x' ) - it will allow you to reduce his bandwidth on the network to whatever slow level you want to give him. It is a part of the ipfw package on Mac OS X. Have fun!</htmltext>
<tokenext>read about 'dummynet ' ( google 'dummynet mac os x ' ) - it will allow you to reduce his bandwidth on the network to whatever slow level you want to give him .
It is a part of the ipfw package on Mac OS X. Have fun !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
read about 'dummynet' (google 'dummynet mac os x' ) - it will allow you to reduce his bandwidth on the network to whatever slow level you want to give him.
It is a part of the ipfw package on Mac OS X. Have fun!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31371584</id>
	<title>Unplug your Lan cable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267807500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just unplug your Lan cable....simple.</p><p>if he comes in looking.....ooops it must have come out. and funniliy it keeps coming out. it only seems to be un when you need it</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just unplug your Lan cable....simple.if he comes in looking.....ooops it must have come out .
and funniliy it keeps coming out .
it only seems to be un when you need it</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just unplug your Lan cable....simple.if he comes in looking.....ooops it must have come out.
and funniliy it keeps coming out.
it only seems to be un when you need it</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31365626</id>
	<title>Try nice first</title>
	<author>BlindBear</author>
	<datestamp>1267711560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try nice first, if that fails show him how you load your Glock.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try nice first , if that fails show him how you load your Glock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try nice first, if that fails show him how you load your Glock.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31368208</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>centuren</author>
	<datestamp>1267820160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>Disable file shares on workstations. Use a file server.</i></p><p>Well, that's the correct <i>technical</i> solution, but the real, supreme, correct decision is:  Find a new job, and fast.  Nothing good has ever come from challenging a coworker who enjoys immunity, especially when it's familial.</p></div><p>I'd say start looking for a new job, but the occasional butting of heads over this sort of stupidity can be fun and rewarding.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Disable file shares on workstations .
Use a file server.Well , that 's the correct technical solution , but the real , supreme , correct decision is : Find a new job , and fast .
Nothing good has ever come from challenging a coworker who enjoys immunity , especially when it 's familial.I 'd say start looking for a new job , but the occasional butting of heads over this sort of stupidity can be fun and rewarding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Disable file shares on workstations.
Use a file server.Well, that's the correct technical solution, but the real, supreme, correct decision is:  Find a new job, and fast.
Nothing good has ever come from challenging a coworker who enjoys immunity, especially when it's familial.I'd say start looking for a new job, but the occasional butting of heads over this sort of stupidity can be fun and rewarding.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362774</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364556</id>
	<title>the real issue</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267705320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the real issue here is 99\% of slashdot users repeating what someone else already said. Often times, the phrase starts with "Why aren't you".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the real issue here is 99 \ % of slashdot users repeating what someone else already said .
Often times , the phrase starts with " Why are n't you " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the real issue here is 99\% of slashdot users repeating what someone else already said.
Often times, the phrase starts with "Why aren't you".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363210</id>
	<title>be nice</title>
	<author>MrKaos</author>
	<datestamp>1267699380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can't you just change the nice value of the process running the file server software and alter it's CPU priority, should work on MAC.<p>

Check the <a href="http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/nice/" title="manpagez.com">nice manual page</a> [manpagez.com] </p><p>

Increment it slowly and he won't know whats going on (mu-ha ha)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't you just change the nice value of the process running the file server software and alter it 's CPU priority , should work on MAC .
Check the nice manual page [ manpagez.com ] Increment it slowly and he wo n't know whats going on ( mu-ha ha )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't you just change the nice value of the process running the file server software and alter it's CPU priority, should work on MAC.
Check the nice manual page [manpagez.com] 

Increment it slowly and he won't know whats going on (mu-ha ha)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31368766</id>
	<title>Explain that Mac OS X is flawed by design</title>
	<author>advid.net</author>
	<datestamp>1267784280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Right after that line you say he doesn't see anything wrong with it. Have you not explained this to him?</p></div><p>Explain that Mac OS X is flawed by design and almost freeze with concurrent disk access. This is my observations, GUI reactiveness slow down to one minute or more for a click, with just 4 processes accessing files. That's a shame for a so-called multi-tasks system.
</p><p>
Also: Pop up nearby his office each time your are stucked by his file access.  In case he wonder why just say you're waiting he has finished with your files.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Right after that line you say he does n't see anything wrong with it .
Have you not explained this to him ? Explain that Mac OS X is flawed by design and almost freeze with concurrent disk access .
This is my observations , GUI reactiveness slow down to one minute or more for a click , with just 4 processes accessing files .
That 's a shame for a so-called multi-tasks system .
Also : Pop up nearby his office each time your are stucked by his file access .
In case he wonder why just say you 're waiting he has finished with your files .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right after that line you say he doesn't see anything wrong with it.
Have you not explained this to him?Explain that Mac OS X is flawed by design and almost freeze with concurrent disk access.
This is my observations, GUI reactiveness slow down to one minute or more for a click, with just 4 processes accessing files.
That's a shame for a so-called multi-tasks system.
Also: Pop up nearby his office each time your are stucked by his file access.
In case he wonder why just say you're waiting he has finished with your files.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362720</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364044</id>
	<title>Re:Be assertive</title>
	<author>ignavus</author>
	<datestamp>1267703220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am sorry, but your solution is way too rational. It presupposes that the proprietor is objective and has common sense. It assumes that they are not self-centred and vindictive.</p><p>And there is no fun avenue for hacking, sabotaging, or improving one's BOFH skills.</p><p>Nup. Sorry. Fail.</p><p>(Look, the guy came to Slashdot for advice and you gave him common sense. What's wrong with you?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am sorry , but your solution is way too rational .
It presupposes that the proprietor is objective and has common sense .
It assumes that they are not self-centred and vindictive.And there is no fun avenue for hacking , sabotaging , or improving one 's BOFH skills.Nup .
Sorry. Fail .
( Look , the guy came to Slashdot for advice and you gave him common sense .
What 's wrong with you ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am sorry, but your solution is way too rational.
It presupposes that the proprietor is objective and has common sense.
It assumes that they are not self-centred and vindictive.And there is no fun avenue for hacking, sabotaging, or improving one's BOFH skills.Nup.
Sorry. Fail.
(Look, the guy came to Slashdot for advice and you gave him common sense.
What's wrong with you?
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363694</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, What?</title>
	<author>harrkev</author>
	<datestamp>1267701600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>A few mirrors stripped into a single big drive should give excellent performance.</p></div></blockquote><p>I tried that once.  My drives looked like a big, square disco ball.  It looked very pretty in my windowed case -- the fan lights reflected off of the mirror stripes on my drives.  They did not go any faster, though.  Any other ideas?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A few mirrors stripped into a single big drive should give excellent performance.I tried that once .
My drives looked like a big , square disco ball .
It looked very pretty in my windowed case -- the fan lights reflected off of the mirror stripes on my drives .
They did not go any faster , though .
Any other ideas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few mirrors stripped into a single big drive should give excellent performance.I tried that once.
My drives looked like a big, square disco ball.
It looked very pretty in my windowed case -- the fan lights reflected off of the mirror stripes on my drives.
They did not go any faster, though.
Any other ideas?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31375506</id>
	<title>Empower your users with knowledge</title>
	<author>BumpyCarrot</author>
	<datestamp>1267783200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not just tell the users what's causing the problem? One day he'll have a big project to get in, every other user in the building will be looking at the OSX kaleidoscope in frustration, and somebody (you?) will suggest that they all give him a talking to.  Or get them to mention it on their evaluations "I would've had this done tomorrow, but $douchebag crippled my computer".
<br> <br>
If you've done everything in your power to make sure that the systems are running fine, but this dude comes along and screws with that, it stops being your responsibility.  If he knows about the problem, and he carries on, and the users provide official feedback that he's causing them to work less or worse, you'd be surprised how fast it can get up-stream.
<br> <br>
If you're lucky, your users wont be smart enough (wait, hear me out!) to know the difference between him slowing the computer down, and them doing it themselves (or it just being slow for whatever reason), and then you're bound to see some movement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just tell the users what 's causing the problem ?
One day he 'll have a big project to get in , every other user in the building will be looking at the OSX kaleidoscope in frustration , and somebody ( you ?
) will suggest that they all give him a talking to .
Or get them to mention it on their evaluations " I would 've had this done tomorrow , but $ douchebag crippled my computer " .
If you 've done everything in your power to make sure that the systems are running fine , but this dude comes along and screws with that , it stops being your responsibility .
If he knows about the problem , and he carries on , and the users provide official feedback that he 's causing them to work less or worse , you 'd be surprised how fast it can get up-stream .
If you 're lucky , your users wont be smart enough ( wait , hear me out !
) to know the difference between him slowing the computer down , and them doing it themselves ( or it just being slow for whatever reason ) , and then you 're bound to see some movement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just tell the users what's causing the problem?
One day he'll have a big project to get in, every other user in the building will be looking at the OSX kaleidoscope in frustration, and somebody (you?
) will suggest that they all give him a talking to.
Or get them to mention it on their evaluations "I would've had this done tomorrow, but $douchebag crippled my computer".
If you've done everything in your power to make sure that the systems are running fine, but this dude comes along and screws with that, it stops being your responsibility.
If he knows about the problem, and he carries on, and the users provide official feedback that he's causing them to work less or worse, you'd be surprised how fast it can get up-stream.
If you're lucky, your users wont be smart enough (wait, hear me out!
) to know the difference between him slowing the computer down, and them doing it themselves (or it just being slow for whatever reason), and then you're bound to see some movement.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31366598</id>
	<title>Switch out the workstation....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267719480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get an old pc and a big enough drive.  </p><p>After hours: </p><p>Unplug the workstation from the network. </p><p>Load Linux and samba on the old pc. </p><p>Put all of the son's data on the old pc.   </p><p>Rename the pc to the workstation name, plug it into the net, and share out the drive. </p><p>Stuff the pc under a desk somewhere. </p><p>Rename the workstation. </p><p>Plug workstation back into the network with its new name and continue working.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get an old pc and a big enough drive .
After hours : Unplug the workstation from the network .
Load Linux and samba on the old pc .
Put all of the son 's data on the old pc .
Rename the pc to the workstation name , plug it into the net , and share out the drive .
Stuff the pc under a desk somewhere .
Rename the workstation .
Plug workstation back into the network with its new name and continue working .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get an old pc and a big enough drive.
After hours: Unplug the workstation from the network.
Load Linux and samba on the old pc.
Put all of the son's data on the old pc.
Rename the pc to the workstation name, plug it into the net, and share out the drive.
Stuff the pc under a desk somewhere.
Rename the workstation.
Plug workstation back into the network with its new name and continue working.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31373524</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>seabasstin</author>
	<datestamp>1267816800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hot dogs are never raw dood... always pre-cooked.
but he sounds like a nightmare.
I had one of them before he also locked himself in his office, then decided to sue his 3 other founding partners for damages... Because he was not included in decision making (which he excluded himself from by not going to meetings, screaming randomly at people and being a general anti-social jerk.)
and yes it was design company in which he was the main tech person.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hot dogs are never raw dood... always pre-cooked .
but he sounds like a nightmare .
I had one of them before he also locked himself in his office , then decided to sue his 3 other founding partners for damages... Because he was not included in decision making ( which he excluded himself from by not going to meetings , screaming randomly at people and being a general anti-social jerk .
) and yes it was design company in which he was the main tech person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hot dogs are never raw dood... always pre-cooked.
but he sounds like a nightmare.
I had one of them before he also locked himself in his office, then decided to sue his 3 other founding partners for damages... Because he was not included in decision making (which he excluded himself from by not going to meetings, screaming randomly at people and being a general anti-social jerk.
)
and yes it was design company in which he was the main tech person.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363716</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31366650</id>
	<title>try this solution :-)</title>
	<author>toastliscio</author>
	<datestamp>1267719840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can connect a usb key or external hard drive to the workstation, then create a physical partition on it, than mount the partition normally, copy the files in there, and then remount the partition in the directory where the remote user looks for the files, so that when he opens the files, he will be actually working on the external drive partition, in a completely transparent manner, but the external drive will be physically accessed, thus freeing the workstation's hard disk from the load.

Of course it would be better to put the external partition in the fstab configuration file, so that it will get automatically mounted in case of reboot, and ensure that the external drive will be *ALWAYS* connected to the workstation.

Hope this can help you.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-D</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can connect a usb key or external hard drive to the workstation , then create a physical partition on it , than mount the partition normally , copy the files in there , and then remount the partition in the directory where the remote user looks for the files , so that when he opens the files , he will be actually working on the external drive partition , in a completely transparent manner , but the external drive will be physically accessed , thus freeing the workstation 's hard disk from the load .
Of course it would be better to put the external partition in the fstab configuration file , so that it will get automatically mounted in case of reboot , and ensure that the external drive will be * ALWAYS * connected to the workstation .
Hope this can help you .
: -D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can connect a usb key or external hard drive to the workstation, then create a physical partition on it, than mount the partition normally, copy the files in there, and then remount the partition in the directory where the remote user looks for the files, so that when he opens the files, he will be actually working on the external drive partition, in a completely transparent manner, but the external drive will be physically accessed, thus freeing the workstation's hard disk from the load.
Of course it would be better to put the external partition in the fstab configuration file, so that it will get automatically mounted in case of reboot, and ensure that the external drive will be *ALWAYS* connected to the workstation.
Hope this can help you.
:-D</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367388</id>
	<title>Are you god damned crazy?</title>
	<author>pclminion</author>
	<datestamp>1267724940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you have brain damage? You want to stand in the way of somebody with title of "Production Director" who has free reign to do what he pleases, and you think there will not be SERIOUS consequences to it? All technical stupidities aside, this guy sounds like a superior, and if you get in his way, you're basically insubordinate, uncooperative, and probably going to get fired. Don't be a dumbshit. Try to convince the powers that be to change the situation of their OWN accord, or find another job, because that's what you'll be doing anyway if you continue down this road.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you have brain damage ?
You want to stand in the way of somebody with title of " Production Director " who has free reign to do what he pleases , and you think there will not be SERIOUS consequences to it ?
All technical stupidities aside , this guy sounds like a superior , and if you get in his way , you 're basically insubordinate , uncooperative , and probably going to get fired .
Do n't be a dumbshit .
Try to convince the powers that be to change the situation of their OWN accord , or find another job , because that 's what you 'll be doing anyway if you continue down this road .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you have brain damage?
You want to stand in the way of somebody with title of "Production Director" who has free reign to do what he pleases, and you think there will not be SERIOUS consequences to it?
All technical stupidities aside, this guy sounds like a superior, and if you get in his way, you're basically insubordinate, uncooperative, and probably going to get fired.
Don't be a dumbshit.
Try to convince the powers that be to change the situation of their OWN accord, or find another job, because that's what you'll be doing anyway if you continue down this road.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362828</id>
	<title>Google Mac OS X traffic shaping</title>
	<author>Troy Roberts</author>
	<datestamp>1267698120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The first result will answer your question.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The first result will answer your question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The first result will answer your question.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31374182</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>IronChef</author>
	<datestamp>1267819740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are technically correct--which is the best kind of correct.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are technically correct--which is the best kind of correct .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are technically correct--which is the best kind of correct.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31365464</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362792</id>
	<title>ipfw</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267698000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can configure a firewall rate limiting statement based on source ip address using ipfw.  Then just have an applescript that toggles this than can be run as soon as you notice the computer getting slow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can configure a firewall rate limiting statement based on source ip address using ipfw .
Then just have an applescript that toggles this than can be run as soon as you notice the computer getting slow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can configure a firewall rate limiting statement based on source ip address using ipfw.
Then just have an applescript that toggles this than can be run as soon as you notice the computer getting slow.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364344</id>
	<title>Re:Explain</title>
	<author>NatasRevol</author>
	<datestamp>1267704480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bullshit.</p><p>People working on uncompressed 1080p video use fiber SAN.  Anything else is just too unreliable.  And too small.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bullshit.People working on uncompressed 1080p video use fiber SAN .
Anything else is just too unreliable .
And too small .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bullshit.People working on uncompressed 1080p video use fiber SAN.
Anything else is just too unreliable.
And too small.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363358</id>
	<title>Here's what you do.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267699980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take your Mac back and get a refund.  Get a PC.</p><p>Life made simpler.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:3</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take your Mac back and get a refund .
Get a PC.Life made simpler .
: 3</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take your Mac back and get a refund.
Get a PC.Life made simpler.
:3</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362870</id>
	<title>ipfw with prob</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267698240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>use ipfw with "prob" (This can be useful for a number of applications such as random packet drop...).</p><p>Lots of articles on customizing the firewall, you can issue ipfw rules by hand so they disappear at reboot or build a startup script that configures the firewall the way you want on boot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>use ipfw with " prob " ( This can be useful for a number of applications such as random packet drop... ) .Lots of articles on customizing the firewall , you can issue ipfw rules by hand so they disappear at reboot or build a startup script that configures the firewall the way you want on boot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>use ipfw with "prob" (This can be useful for a number of applications such as random packet drop...).Lots of articles on customizing the firewall, you can issue ipfw rules by hand so they disappear at reboot or build a startup script that configures the firewall the way you want on boot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31365464</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Rhinobird</author>
	<datestamp>1267710360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I could have sworn that hot dogs were precooked before packaging.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could have sworn that hot dogs were precooked before packaging .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could have sworn that hot dogs were precooked before packaging.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363716</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364368</id>
	<title>Easy solution!</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1267704540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Buy the company, become the new boss, fire the guy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy the company , become the new boss , fire the guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy the company, become the new boss, fire the guy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362838</id>
	<title>Re:Explain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267698120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My thoughts too.  This isn't 1985 any more.  If you have a network, grab a spare box, throw a file server on it and away you go.  How does this organization do backups?  It's such a pain in the ass to set your backup system to go grabbing data off of every workstation, and inevitably someone will either walk away from the evening with  half a dozen files opened and locked, or will turn the machine off.</p><p>I haven't run a network in 15 years where workstations kept data local, with the exception of notebooks, and there you're usually doing some sort of synchronization to update local files to the file server.  How can someone have such an array of modern equipment and yet run them like some arcnet from the mid-1980s?  It's a bad system, of course it's going to cause serious problems for workstations, treating workstations like servers always had and always will.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My thoughts too .
This is n't 1985 any more .
If you have a network , grab a spare box , throw a file server on it and away you go .
How does this organization do backups ?
It 's such a pain in the ass to set your backup system to go grabbing data off of every workstation , and inevitably someone will either walk away from the evening with half a dozen files opened and locked , or will turn the machine off.I have n't run a network in 15 years where workstations kept data local , with the exception of notebooks , and there you 're usually doing some sort of synchronization to update local files to the file server .
How can someone have such an array of modern equipment and yet run them like some arcnet from the mid-1980s ?
It 's a bad system , of course it 's going to cause serious problems for workstations , treating workstations like servers always had and always will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My thoughts too.
This isn't 1985 any more.
If you have a network, grab a spare box, throw a file server on it and away you go.
How does this organization do backups?
It's such a pain in the ass to set your backup system to go grabbing data off of every workstation, and inevitably someone will either walk away from the evening with  half a dozen files opened and locked, or will turn the machine off.I haven't run a network in 15 years where workstations kept data local, with the exception of notebooks, and there you're usually doing some sort of synchronization to update local files to the file server.
How can someone have such an array of modern equipment and yet run them like some arcnet from the mid-1980s?
It's a bad system, of course it's going to cause serious problems for workstations, treating workstations like servers always had and always will.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362720</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362732</id>
	<title>Cubicle justice</title>
	<author>The name is Dave. Ja</author>
	<datestamp>1267697820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have no suggestion, but I do agree that he needs a good throttling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have no suggestion , but I do agree that he needs a good throttling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have no suggestion, but I do agree that he needs a good throttling.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363746</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like info is missing, but here goes</title>
	<author>gordguide</author>
	<datestamp>1267701900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Samba (although it's probably AFP<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... unless one of the two computers is a Windows box) isn't the cause of the slowdown, probably. Since it's a design studio, and since the files are resident on a designer's machine, it's likely the designer is using Adobe apps. They use a proprietary disk-based VM (avoiding the OS's VM on Windows or OSX) and typically they will reserve many times the size of the open document(s) the guy's trying to work on, and do plenty of large swaps, especially with any operation that involves manipulating the data in the file (just about every function in Photoshop, for example). They also use their own clipboard, again, avoiding the OS's.</p><p>Most designers would dedicate a second drive solely to Adobe VM, actually, because it hogs drives so much. It's also possible the bonehead is using Screen Sharing, which in essence means he's actually using the designer's CPU and Applications, along with all that comes with that overhead-wise, as well, instead of the apps and RAM resident on his own machine.</p><p>AFP (and Samba) work very well speed-wise. I have no trouble streaming audio or video, hiccup free, over either, while using the LAN and CPUs for other tasks at the same time. So, the network access itself almost certainly isn't going to be the issue, on either machine.</p><p>It sounds like the bonehead is basically eating the poor designer's CPU cycles, RAM and drive access when the user is attempting to do work that really amounts to tasks that the machine should be dedicated to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Samba ( although it 's probably AFP ... unless one of the two computers is a Windows box ) is n't the cause of the slowdown , probably .
Since it 's a design studio , and since the files are resident on a designer 's machine , it 's likely the designer is using Adobe apps .
They use a proprietary disk-based VM ( avoiding the OS 's VM on Windows or OSX ) and typically they will reserve many times the size of the open document ( s ) the guy 's trying to work on , and do plenty of large swaps , especially with any operation that involves manipulating the data in the file ( just about every function in Photoshop , for example ) .
They also use their own clipboard , again , avoiding the OS 's.Most designers would dedicate a second drive solely to Adobe VM , actually , because it hogs drives so much .
It 's also possible the bonehead is using Screen Sharing , which in essence means he 's actually using the designer 's CPU and Applications , along with all that comes with that overhead-wise , as well , instead of the apps and RAM resident on his own machine.AFP ( and Samba ) work very well speed-wise .
I have no trouble streaming audio or video , hiccup free , over either , while using the LAN and CPUs for other tasks at the same time .
So , the network access itself almost certainly is n't going to be the issue , on either machine.It sounds like the bonehead is basically eating the poor designer 's CPU cycles , RAM and drive access when the user is attempting to do work that really amounts to tasks that the machine should be dedicated to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Samba (although it's probably AFP ... unless one of the two computers is a Windows box) isn't the cause of the slowdown, probably.
Since it's a design studio, and since the files are resident on a designer's machine, it's likely the designer is using Adobe apps.
They use a proprietary disk-based VM (avoiding the OS's VM on Windows or OSX) and typically they will reserve many times the size of the open document(s) the guy's trying to work on, and do plenty of large swaps, especially with any operation that involves manipulating the data in the file (just about every function in Photoshop, for example).
They also use their own clipboard, again, avoiding the OS's.Most designers would dedicate a second drive solely to Adobe VM, actually, because it hogs drives so much.
It's also possible the bonehead is using Screen Sharing, which in essence means he's actually using the designer's CPU and Applications, along with all that comes with that overhead-wise, as well, instead of the apps and RAM resident on his own machine.AFP (and Samba) work very well speed-wise.
I have no trouble streaming audio or video, hiccup free, over either, while using the LAN and CPUs for other tasks at the same time.
So, the network access itself almost certainly isn't going to be the issue, on either machine.It sounds like the bonehead is basically eating the poor designer's CPU cycles, RAM and drive access when the user is attempting to do work that really amounts to tasks that the machine should be dedicated to.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31365064</id>
	<title>Re:Explain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267707840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work in a studio and we have file servers. In fact, every studio except the smallest, cheapest, underfunded startups have file servers. big, expensive files servers like blue arc, isilon and netapp.</p><p>what you say is true about needing lots of storage and bandwidth but we have that and this outfit should too if they want to keep their sanity.</p><p>p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work in a studio and we have file servers .
In fact , every studio except the smallest , cheapest , underfunded startups have file servers .
big , expensive files servers like blue arc , isilon and netapp.what you say is true about needing lots of storage and bandwidth but we have that and this outfit should too if they want to keep their sanity.p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work in a studio and we have file servers.
In fact, every studio except the smallest, cheapest, underfunded startups have file servers.
big, expensive files servers like blue arc, isilon and netapp.what you say is true about needing lots of storage and bandwidth but we have that and this outfit should too if they want to keep their sanity.p</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31369096</id>
	<title>What can you say to something like this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267788660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Every time he hits your machine, pull the power plug. Sooner or later the file will get corrupted. Pretend it's his fault. "My machine was grinding away and then died". Keep backups of your own stuff.</p><p>2) Change job (usually unfeasible).</p><p>3) Shoot the fucker.</p><p>4) Why the hell aren't you using CVS? Or, at least, a central time machine thingy?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Every time he hits your machine , pull the power plug .
Sooner or later the file will get corrupted .
Pretend it 's his fault .
" My machine was grinding away and then died " .
Keep backups of your own stuff.2 ) Change job ( usually unfeasible ) .3 ) Shoot the fucker.4 ) Why the hell are n't you using CVS ?
Or , at least , a central time machine thingy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Every time he hits your machine, pull the power plug.
Sooner or later the file will get corrupted.
Pretend it's his fault.
"My machine was grinding away and then died".
Keep backups of your own stuff.2) Change job (usually unfeasible).3) Shoot the fucker.4) Why the hell aren't you using CVS?
Or, at least, a central time machine thingy?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31362938</id>
	<title>Why do designers have the files on their machines?</title>
	<author>barfy</author>
	<datestamp>1267698480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Version control software.  Figure out how to use it and install it.  When the files stop being on the designers machines, the owners son will get them where he is supposed to, the version control server.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Version control software .
Figure out how to use it and install it .
When the files stop being on the designers machines , the owners son will get them where he is supposed to , the version control server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Version control software.
Figure out how to use it and install it.
When the files stop being on the designers machines, the owners son will get them where he is supposed to, the version control server.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363550</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like info is missing, but here goes</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1267700940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ionice, if mac lacks this get a better OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ionice , if mac lacks this get a better OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ionice, if mac lacks this get a better OS.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364104</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267703460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Disable file shares on workstations. Use a file server.</p></div><p>This.</p><p>I work for a fairly large design/print company, and all design files and resources are kept on a SAN.  With gigabit ethernet, access time, even for large files is hardly noticeable.  It also makes backing much, much easier.</p><p>I'm actually kind of shocked that you don't have a file server already...  I don't think I've dealt with a printer or design shop in the last five years that didn't have some kind of centralized storage.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Disable file shares on workstations .
Use a file server.This.I work for a fairly large design/print company , and all design files and resources are kept on a SAN .
With gigabit ethernet , access time , even for large files is hardly noticeable .
It also makes backing much , much easier.I 'm actually kind of shocked that you do n't have a file server already... I do n't think I 've dealt with a printer or design shop in the last five years that did n't have some kind of centralized storage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disable file shares on workstations.
Use a file server.This.I work for a fairly large design/print company, and all design files and resources are kept on a SAN.
With gigabit ethernet, access time, even for large files is hardly noticeable.
It also makes backing much, much easier.I'm actually kind of shocked that you don't have a file server already...  I don't think I've dealt with a printer or design shop in the last five years that didn't have some kind of centralized storage.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364196</id>
	<title>its easy ...demo the problem...Show the boss</title>
	<author>brisvegasdan</author>
	<datestamp>1267703880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wait till the machine is slow..call the boss over and give him a demonstration of something that you have been working on that will get him excited.
Have him wait around while the pizza wheel turns... apologise profusely, use task manager or look for active connections to track down the problem voila new computer or action</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait till the machine is slow..call the boss over and give him a demonstration of something that you have been working on that will get him excited .
Have him wait around while the pizza wheel turns... apologise profusely , use task manager or look for active connections to track down the problem voila new computer or action</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait till the machine is slow..call the boss over and give him a demonstration of something that you have been working on that will get him excited.
Have him wait around while the pizza wheel turns... apologise profusely, use task manager or look for active connections to track down the problem voila new computer or action</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363994</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267703040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can saturate any modern hard drive, even a 4-drive mirrored RAID-1 setup, over 10mbit ethernet. It's not hard at all. Just do some random reads from randomly chosen files. You can also do that locally with the CPUs being practically idle. Ever heard of "thrashing" the drive when there's lots of swap activity? It's all slow because the drive is saturated even though it transfers abysmally small amounts of data (a few Mbyte/s or whereabouts). And the drive is slow because when it's moving the heads, it can't do anything else, and it's moving the heads almost all of the time!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can saturate any modern hard drive , even a 4-drive mirrored RAID-1 setup , over 10mbit ethernet .
It 's not hard at all .
Just do some random reads from randomly chosen files .
You can also do that locally with the CPUs being practically idle .
Ever heard of " thrashing " the drive when there 's lots of swap activity ?
It 's all slow because the drive is saturated even though it transfers abysmally small amounts of data ( a few Mbyte/s or whereabouts ) .
And the drive is slow because when it 's moving the heads , it ca n't do anything else , and it 's moving the heads almost all of the time !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can saturate any modern hard drive, even a 4-drive mirrored RAID-1 setup, over 10mbit ethernet.
It's not hard at all.
Just do some random reads from randomly chosen files.
You can also do that locally with the CPUs being practically idle.
Ever heard of "thrashing" the drive when there's lots of swap activity?
It's all slow because the drive is saturated even though it transfers abysmally small amounts of data (a few Mbyte/s or whereabouts).
And the drive is slow because when it's moving the heads, it can't do anything else, and it's moving the heads almost all of the time!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31367310</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>yanyan</author>
	<datestamp>1267724400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If boss kid has a technical nature to some degree i doubt he would argue against a technical solution. Just tell him you need bigger, faster storage that's network-connected, etc. and i think the OP would be fine. Boss kid wouldn't necessarily see it as a challenge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If boss kid has a technical nature to some degree i doubt he would argue against a technical solution .
Just tell him you need bigger , faster storage that 's network-connected , etc .
and i think the OP would be fine .
Boss kid would n't necessarily see it as a challenge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If boss kid has a technical nature to some degree i doubt he would argue against a technical solution.
Just tell him you need bigger, faster storage that's network-connected, etc.
and i think the OP would be fine.
Boss kid wouldn't necessarily see it as a challenge.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363520</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>svtdragon</author>
	<datestamp>1267700820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems like you could make the case for version control as well, especially since he's loading/saving over the network where the connection could be flakey.  How about an SVN server?  Are there plugins for whatever tool you're using to have it interface automatically?  <br> <br>If you can make it check in a new version every time it's saved, you get version control, user-stupidity backups, centralization for file storage/redundancy/system backups, and it's transparent to the person who's the source of the problem--all while saving the designer's computer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems like you could make the case for version control as well , especially since he 's loading/saving over the network where the connection could be flakey .
How about an SVN server ?
Are there plugins for whatever tool you 're using to have it interface automatically ?
If you can make it check in a new version every time it 's saved , you get version control , user-stupidity backups , centralization for file storage/redundancy/system backups , and it 's transparent to the person who 's the source of the problem--all while saving the designer 's computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems like you could make the case for version control as well, especially since he's loading/saving over the network where the connection could be flakey.
How about an SVN server?
Are there plugins for whatever tool you're using to have it interface automatically?
If you can make it check in a new version every time it's saved, you get version control, user-stupidity backups, centralization for file storage/redundancy/system backups, and it's transparent to the person who's the source of the problem--all while saving the designer's computer.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364110</id>
	<title>Why not an external disk?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267703520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to wonder if placing your files on an external drive wouldn't alleviate part of the problem. If the external disk is busy serving files to the remote user it would likely not cause resource contention on the OS partition.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to wonder if placing your files on an external drive would n't alleviate part of the problem .
If the external disk is busy serving files to the remote user it would likely not cause resource contention on the OS partition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to wonder if placing your files on an external drive wouldn't alleviate part of the problem.
If the external disk is busy serving files to the remote user it would likely not cause resource contention on the OS partition.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363598</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, What?</title>
	<author>ShadowRangerRIT</author>
	<datestamp>1267701120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Standard modern hard drives (7200 rpm), reading a contiguous file top out around 70-80 MB/s. Gigabit ethernet is faster than that. Even if they're only on 100Mb ethernet, the increase in seeking triggered by the network reads and writes competing with the local reads and writes will drastically lower the maximum throughput on the hard disk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Standard modern hard drives ( 7200 rpm ) , reading a contiguous file top out around 70-80 MB/s .
Gigabit ethernet is faster than that .
Even if they 're only on 100Mb ethernet , the increase in seeking triggered by the network reads and writes competing with the local reads and writes will drastically lower the maximum throughput on the hard disk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Standard modern hard drives (7200 rpm), reading a contiguous file top out around 70-80 MB/s.
Gigabit ethernet is faster than that.
Even if they're only on 100Mb ethernet, the increase in seeking triggered by the network reads and writes competing with the local reads and writes will drastically lower the maximum throughput on the hard disk.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31364786</id>
	<title>Re:the correct solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267706340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Disable file shares on workstations. Use a file server.</p></div><p>You can set your files to read only, he wont be able to make any changes but can view your work.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Disable file shares on workstations .
Use a file server.You can set your files to read only , he wont be able to make any changes but can view your work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disable file shares on workstations.
Use a file server.You can set your files to read only, he wont be able to make any changes but can view your work.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_04_214249.31363920</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, What?</title>
	<author>Schraegstrichpunkt</author>
	<datestamp>1267702680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My guess is fsync()</htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is fsync ( )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is fsync()</sentencetext>
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