<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_03_2313234</id>
	<title>Ubuntu Gets a New Visual Identity</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1267624800000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>buntcake writes <i>"Canonical has <a href="http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/ubuntu-dumps-the-brown-introduces-new-theme.ars">launched a new visual identity</a> for the Ubuntu Linux distribution. Ubuntu is shedding its previous brown look and adopting a more professional color scheme with purple and orange. The colors will be used in a new GNOME theme and boot splash for Ubuntu 10.04. According to updated design <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand">documents that were published</a> in the Ubuntu wiki, 'light' is the underlying concept behind the new visual identity. It displaces the 'human' concept that has been part of Ubuntu's theming and brand vernacular for the past five years. Ubuntu community manager Jono Bacon has <a href="http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/">posted a screenshot</a> and additional information."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>buntcake writes " Canonical has launched a new visual identity for the Ubuntu Linux distribution .
Ubuntu is shedding its previous brown look and adopting a more professional color scheme with purple and orange .
The colors will be used in a new GNOME theme and boot splash for Ubuntu 10.04 .
According to updated design documents that were published in the Ubuntu wiki , 'light ' is the underlying concept behind the new visual identity .
It displaces the 'human ' concept that has been part of Ubuntu 's theming and brand vernacular for the past five years .
Ubuntu community manager Jono Bacon has posted a screenshot and additional information .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>buntcake writes "Canonical has launched a new visual identity for the Ubuntu Linux distribution.
Ubuntu is shedding its previous brown look and adopting a more professional color scheme with purple and orange.
The colors will be used in a new GNOME theme and boot splash for Ubuntu 10.04.
According to updated design documents that were published in the Ubuntu wiki, 'light' is the underlying concept behind the new visual identity.
It displaces the 'human' concept that has been part of Ubuntu's theming and brand vernacular for the past five years.
Ubuntu community manager Jono Bacon has posted a screenshot and additional information.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353552</id>
	<title>I for one will miss the babysh*t brown color</title>
	<author>AlexBirch</author>
	<datestamp>1267629120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sad that the babysh*t brown color will go away!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sad that the babysh * t brown color will go away ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sad that the babysh*t brown color will go away!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354134</id>
	<title>Re:Window control buttons on the left? Bad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267633920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You quickly learn to drag your windows to the right, not the left. Will take you all of 48 hours to adjust. Chill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You quickly learn to drag your windows to the right , not the left .
Will take you all of 48 hours to adjust .
Chill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You quickly learn to drag your windows to the right, not the left.
Will take you all of 48 hours to adjust.
Chill.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353558</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356800</id>
	<title>Re:Bubblegum fudge</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267709880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A good looking desktop does matter, it improves the user experience. People percieve a good looking desktop as more usable. Granted, if you mostly use terminal windows it doesn't matter much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A good looking desktop does matter , it improves the user experience .
People percieve a good looking desktop as more usable .
Granted , if you mostly use terminal windows it does n't matter much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A good looking desktop does matter, it improves the user experience.
People percieve a good looking desktop as more usable.
Granted, if you mostly use terminal windows it doesn't matter much.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353752</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353740</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Ubuntu</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1267630440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...Such as? And is it not available or not used by default? Just about every "missing" feature simply isn't installed by default because a lot of people don't like it. A lot of people like XP more than 7.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...Such as ?
And is it not available or not used by default ?
Just about every " missing " feature simply is n't installed by default because a lot of people do n't like it .
A lot of people like XP more than 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Such as?
And is it not available or not used by default?
Just about every "missing" feature simply isn't installed by default because a lot of people don't like it.
A lot of people like XP more than 7.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356486</id>
	<title>Purple and WHAT?</title>
	<author>jonadab</author>
	<datestamp>1267705680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please tell me I did not just read the phrase "purple and orange".  Is someone over there completely colorblind?  What will they come up with next, red and pink?<br><br>Gah.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please tell me I did not just read the phrase " purple and orange " .
Is someone over there completely colorblind ?
What will they come up with next , red and pink ? Gah .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please tell me I did not just read the phrase "purple and orange".
Is someone over there completely colorblind?
What will they come up with next, red and pink?Gah.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354818</id>
	<title>The default GNOME theme</title>
	<author>pseudonomous</author>
	<datestamp>1267641360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think if anybody ever bothered to use the default GNOME theme, the one the upstream developers ship, they would appreciate much of an improvement every Ubuntu theme has been over the default.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think if anybody ever bothered to use the default GNOME theme , the one the upstream developers ship , they would appreciate much of an improvement every Ubuntu theme has been over the default .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think if anybody ever bothered to use the default GNOME theme, the one the upstream developers ship, they would appreciate much of an improvement every Ubuntu theme has been over the default.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354248</id>
	<title>Kubuntu...</title>
	<author>Brain Damaged Bogan</author>
	<datestamp>1267635240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>still looks much better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>still looks much better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>still looks much better.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355692</id>
	<title>The logo typeface needs to be explained</title>
	<author>oboreruhito</author>
	<datestamp>1267695600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
It appears to be an edited rip of <a href="http://www.aakashsoneri.com/" title="aakashsoneri.com" rel="nofollow">Aakash Soneri</a> [aakashsoneri.com]'s  <a href="http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/soneri/sone/regular/" title="myfonts.com" rel="nofollow">Sone</a> [myfonts.com]. (<a href="http://i47.tinypic.com/339oe3n.jpg" title="tinypic.com" rel="nofollow">A comparison</a> [tinypic.com]: Sone is teal, the new logo face is wine, where it overlaps is cobalt blue.) The changes appear to be as insubstantial as adding a slant to ascenders and shifting the baselines of some of the glyphs.
</p><p>
If Canonical modified Sone, didn't license it, and they start freely distributing it ("our global community will still maintain access to the resources needed to construct logos that use the branding" - so either the modified glyphs for the logo as svg, or the modified font itself), that's a dick move.</p><p>
And if they <em>did</em> license it, then why is an open-source project licensing commercial fonts and calling it a reflection of the project?
</p><p>
Maybe it's a placeholder - who knows? Canonical doesn't say <em>anything</em> about the font's origin or license in the linked documentation, nor does Canonical's <a href="http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/comment-page-2/#comments" title="jonobacon.org" rel="nofollow">Jono Bacon</a> [jonobacon.org] in his nearly identical announcement.
</p><p>
But it is disappointing to see an open source project - whose community already made <a href="http://betatype.com/node/36" title="betatype.com" rel="nofollow">LGPL-licensed</a> [betatype.com] <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">typefaces</a> [ubuntu.com] for their current logo - make and publicize such a half-assed effort, even in a preliminary stage, <em>without any explanation on the decision</em>.
</p><p>
When you say, as an organization based on community contribution:</p><blockquote><div><p>"We wanted Ubuntu to reflect the precision and engineering that sits at the heart of the product. The new logo reflects this but not at the expense of the immediately recognisable circle of friends."</p></div></blockquote><p>
And you follow that with a logo that's based on a commercial typeface, you're reneging on that intent in at least one of two ways:
</p><ul>
<li>You're disrespecting the designer of the commercial font by modifying it and refusing to give credit - if it's licensed correctly at all;</li>
<li>You're disrespecting the open-source community, which includes professional designers who've went to bat for you in the past.</li>
</ul><p>
Even if Sone was correctly licensed, and Canonical got permission to modify it for their logo and future redistribution, <em>why not get it from the community?</em>
</p><p>
And if it wasn't licensed correctly, then is Ubuntu following the lead of Arial and just ripping things off in a legal but unethical manner when they can't find what they want in a convenient license?
</p><p>
(And maybe it's a coincidence - a really bad coincidence that still should be fixed. Without any explanation, nobody can tell.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It appears to be an edited rip of Aakash Soneri [ aakashsoneri.com ] 's Sone [ myfonts.com ] .
( A comparison [ tinypic.com ] : Sone is teal , the new logo face is wine , where it overlaps is cobalt blue .
) The changes appear to be as insubstantial as adding a slant to ascenders and shifting the baselines of some of the glyphs .
If Canonical modified Sone , did n't license it , and they start freely distributing it ( " our global community will still maintain access to the resources needed to construct logos that use the branding " - so either the modified glyphs for the logo as svg , or the modified font itself ) , that 's a dick move .
And if they did license it , then why is an open-source project licensing commercial fonts and calling it a reflection of the project ?
Maybe it 's a placeholder - who knows ?
Canonical does n't say anything about the font 's origin or license in the linked documentation , nor does Canonical 's Jono Bacon [ jonobacon.org ] in his nearly identical announcement .
But it is disappointing to see an open source project - whose community already made LGPL-licensed [ betatype.com ] typefaces [ ubuntu.com ] for their current logo - make and publicize such a half-assed effort , even in a preliminary stage , without any explanation on the decision .
When you say , as an organization based on community contribution : " We wanted Ubuntu to reflect the precision and engineering that sits at the heart of the product .
The new logo reflects this but not at the expense of the immediately recognisable circle of friends .
" And you follow that with a logo that 's based on a commercial typeface , you 're reneging on that intent in at least one of two ways : You 're disrespecting the designer of the commercial font by modifying it and refusing to give credit - if it 's licensed correctly at all ; You 're disrespecting the open-source community , which includes professional designers who 've went to bat for you in the past .
Even if Sone was correctly licensed , and Canonical got permission to modify it for their logo and future redistribution , why not get it from the community ?
And if it was n't licensed correctly , then is Ubuntu following the lead of Arial and just ripping things off in a legal but unethical manner when they ca n't find what they want in a convenient license ?
( And maybe it 's a coincidence - a really bad coincidence that still should be fixed .
Without any explanation , nobody can tell .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
It appears to be an edited rip of Aakash Soneri [aakashsoneri.com]'s  Sone [myfonts.com].
(A comparison [tinypic.com]: Sone is teal, the new logo face is wine, where it overlaps is cobalt blue.
) The changes appear to be as insubstantial as adding a slant to ascenders and shifting the baselines of some of the glyphs.
If Canonical modified Sone, didn't license it, and they start freely distributing it ("our global community will still maintain access to the resources needed to construct logos that use the branding" - so either the modified glyphs for the logo as svg, or the modified font itself), that's a dick move.
And if they did license it, then why is an open-source project licensing commercial fonts and calling it a reflection of the project?
Maybe it's a placeholder - who knows?
Canonical doesn't say anything about the font's origin or license in the linked documentation, nor does Canonical's Jono Bacon [jonobacon.org] in his nearly identical announcement.
But it is disappointing to see an open source project - whose community already made LGPL-licensed [betatype.com] typefaces [ubuntu.com] for their current logo - make and publicize such a half-assed effort, even in a preliminary stage, without any explanation on the decision.
When you say, as an organization based on community contribution:"We wanted Ubuntu to reflect the precision and engineering that sits at the heart of the product.
The new logo reflects this but not at the expense of the immediately recognisable circle of friends.
"
And you follow that with a logo that's based on a commercial typeface, you're reneging on that intent in at least one of two ways:

You're disrespecting the designer of the commercial font by modifying it and refusing to give credit - if it's licensed correctly at all;
You're disrespecting the open-source community, which includes professional designers who've went to bat for you in the past.
Even if Sone was correctly licensed, and Canonical got permission to modify it for their logo and future redistribution, why not get it from the community?
And if it wasn't licensed correctly, then is Ubuntu following the lead of Arial and just ripping things off in a legal but unethical manner when they can't find what they want in a convenient license?
(And maybe it's a coincidence - a really bad coincidence that still should be fixed.
Without any explanation, nobody can tell.
)
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356390</id>
	<title>Wrong, Branding counts</title>
	<author>theolein</author>
	<datestamp>1267704660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand" title="ubuntu.com">new branding</a> [ubuntu.com] looks very, very good. Purists may complain that this has nothing to do with Linux or its popularity, but the truth of the matter is that branding matters. Very much.</p><p>The new website, CD cover design, store and goodies and the new smoother lighter themes are part of the things that will attract people to Ubuntu. I love the new design and think its much clearer and simpler and above all more consistent than either Windows 7, Microsoft's site (which is chaotic on a good day) and Mac OSX (and I say that typing this on a Mac Pro). People like shiny, and it will make a difference, even to corporate IT where the PHBs will be attracted to (or at least not put off by) the design, even if they know nothing about the technicalities of Linux.</p><p>Now, if only they could provide some input into better IDEs for developers, then I think it will be on a much better track.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The new branding [ ubuntu.com ] looks very , very good .
Purists may complain that this has nothing to do with Linux or its popularity , but the truth of the matter is that branding matters .
Very much.The new website , CD cover design , store and goodies and the new smoother lighter themes are part of the things that will attract people to Ubuntu .
I love the new design and think its much clearer and simpler and above all more consistent than either Windows 7 , Microsoft 's site ( which is chaotic on a good day ) and Mac OSX ( and I say that typing this on a Mac Pro ) .
People like shiny , and it will make a difference , even to corporate IT where the PHBs will be attracted to ( or at least not put off by ) the design , even if they know nothing about the technicalities of Linux.Now , if only they could provide some input into better IDEs for developers , then I think it will be on a much better track .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new branding [ubuntu.com] looks very, very good.
Purists may complain that this has nothing to do with Linux or its popularity, but the truth of the matter is that branding matters.
Very much.The new website, CD cover design, store and goodies and the new smoother lighter themes are part of the things that will attract people to Ubuntu.
I love the new design and think its much clearer and simpler and above all more consistent than either Windows 7, Microsoft's site (which is chaotic on a good day) and Mac OSX (and I say that typing this on a Mac Pro).
People like shiny, and it will make a difference, even to corporate IT where the PHBs will be attracted to (or at least not put off by) the design, even if they know nothing about the technicalities of Linux.Now, if only they could provide some input into better IDEs for developers, then I think it will be on a much better track.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353452</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355424</id>
	<title>Re:Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1267735440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Is professionalism a virtue?</i> <br> <br>Is this even a meaningful adjective in this context. It sounds more like the sort of claims that come up to justify a subjective decision.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is professionalism a virtue ?
Is this even a meaningful adjective in this context .
It sounds more like the sort of claims that come up to justify a subjective decision .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is professionalism a virtue?
Is this even a meaningful adjective in this context.
It sounds more like the sort of claims that come up to justify a subjective decision.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353468</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355792</id>
	<title>Re:Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267696680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>don't you worry, in a couple of years I see coming "Crappy consultant" and "Autist Administrator" releases.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>do n't you worry , in a couple of years I see coming " Crappy consultant " and " Autist Administrator " releases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>don't you worry, in a couple of years I see coming "Crappy consultant" and "Autist Administrator" releases.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353468</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356242</id>
	<title>Reminds me of day time house buying programmes</title>
	<author>DeanLearner</author>
	<datestamp>1267702740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bitching about themes, reminds me of those TV programmes where a presenter or two show a couple various houses in the hope that they will buy one.<br> <br>

They roll up to the house, walk into the living room and say "no, i don't like the paint, or that chair, that dog looked at me weird."<br> <br>

NEWS FLASH - CHANGE IT.<br> <br>

No one uses Ubuntu because it's brown. FACT.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bitching about themes , reminds me of those TV programmes where a presenter or two show a couple various houses in the hope that they will buy one .
They roll up to the house , walk into the living room and say " no , i do n't like the paint , or that chair , that dog looked at me weird .
" NEWS FLASH - CHANGE IT .
No one uses Ubuntu because it 's brown .
FACT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bitching about themes, reminds me of those TV programmes where a presenter or two show a couple various houses in the hope that they will buy one.
They roll up to the house, walk into the living room and say "no, i don't like the paint, or that chair, that dog looked at me weird.
" 

NEWS FLASH - CHANGE IT.
No one uses Ubuntu because it's brown.
FACT.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353514</id>
	<title>this is going to suck</title>
	<author>meow27</author>
	<datestamp>1267628880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>now im going to have to spend extra time getting the window tools to the right side of the window?<br>ugh this blows<br><br>cmon everyone knows the left side is the wrong one![/pun]<br><br>
&nbsp; in other news they really should be using the technix theme. it could use some tweaking with the font colors, but other than that, its excellent imho</htmltext>
<tokenext>now im going to have to spend extra time getting the window tools to the right side of the window ? ugh this blowscmon everyone knows the left side is the wrong one !
[ /pun ]   in other news they really should be using the technix theme .
it could use some tweaking with the font colors , but other than that , its excellent imho</tokentext>
<sentencetext>now im going to have to spend extra time getting the window tools to the right side of the window?ugh this blowscmon everyone knows the left side is the wrong one!
[/pun]
  in other news they really should be using the technix theme.
it could use some tweaking with the font colors, but other than that, its excellent imho</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354424</id>
	<title>Slashdot Effect has killed also that one!</title>
	<author>morty\_vikka</author>
	<datestamp>1267637100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>probably need a few hundred more links..</htmltext>
<tokenext>probably need a few hundred more links. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>probably need a few hundred more links..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353622</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355250</id>
	<title>Shedding the brown look?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267733160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sort of like Michael Jackson?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sort of like Michael Jackson ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sort of like Michael Jackson?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355608</id>
	<title>Re:It might look nicer but</title>
	<author>tokul</author>
	<datestamp>1267694520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I would be happier if things like mounting digital cameras</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Yeah. I think gphoto developers would like that too. Yet camera manufacturers always invent some (tm) way to fsck up interface.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would be happier if things like mounting digital cameras Yeah .
I think gphoto developers would like that too .
Yet camera manufacturers always invent some ( tm ) way to fsck up interface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would be happier if things like mounting digital cameras

Yeah.
I think gphoto developers would like that too.
Yet camera manufacturers always invent some (tm) way to fsck up interface.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353950</id>
	<title>Blue.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267632000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Purple and orange? Seriously? If you need color go with blue, and maybe green.   Walk outside in the middle of the day and take a picture, more than likely the predominant color is going to be blue.  People like colors for the same reasons they like music. Their ears get used to certain rhythmic sounds and their eyes get used to certain colors. The sky is blue almost everywhere in the world, even Africa.  Microsoft and Apple figured this out a long time ago. Get with the program and quit trying to be different.  Make your default theme blue and pick find some professional monochromatic photos of nature for your default wallpapers. Trees, grass, mountains and sky.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Purple and orange ?
Seriously ? If you need color go with blue , and maybe green .
Walk outside in the middle of the day and take a picture , more than likely the predominant color is going to be blue .
People like colors for the same reasons they like music .
Their ears get used to certain rhythmic sounds and their eyes get used to certain colors .
The sky is blue almost everywhere in the world , even Africa .
Microsoft and Apple figured this out a long time ago .
Get with the program and quit trying to be different .
Make your default theme blue and pick find some professional monochromatic photos of nature for your default wallpapers .
Trees , grass , mountains and sky .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Purple and orange?
Seriously? If you need color go with blue, and maybe green.
Walk outside in the middle of the day and take a picture, more than likely the predominant color is going to be blue.
People like colors for the same reasons they like music.
Their ears get used to certain rhythmic sounds and their eyes get used to certain colors.
The sky is blue almost everywhere in the world, even Africa.
Microsoft and Apple figured this out a long time ago.
Get with the program and quit trying to be different.
Make your default theme blue and pick find some professional monochromatic photos of nature for your default wallpapers.
Trees, grass, mountains and sky.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356366</id>
	<title>professional?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267704360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>purple and orange?<br>They must be kidding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>purple and orange ? They must be kidding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>purple and orange?They must be kidding.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31360140</id>
	<title>Re:Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>eddy the lip</author>
	<datestamp>1267728240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just wish they'd split them up - why is the "I'm done with this, shut it down" button right next to the "I'm spending lots of time here, make it fit the whole screen" button?</p><p>When I used KDE, the first thing I'd do is move the min/max buttons to the left and leave the close on the right. Nice and far apart from each other.</p><p>Sadly, KDE on Ubuntu looks like ass, and I've never figured out how to make those changes in Gnome. (Yeah, I don't spend as much time in config files as I used to...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just wish they 'd split them up - why is the " I 'm done with this , shut it down " button right next to the " I 'm spending lots of time here , make it fit the whole screen " button ? When I used KDE , the first thing I 'd do is move the min/max buttons to the left and leave the close on the right .
Nice and far apart from each other.Sadly , KDE on Ubuntu looks like ass , and I 've never figured out how to make those changes in Gnome .
( Yeah , I do n't spend as much time in config files as I used to... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just wish they'd split them up - why is the "I'm done with this, shut it down" button right next to the "I'm spending lots of time here, make it fit the whole screen" button?When I used KDE, the first thing I'd do is move the min/max buttons to the left and leave the close on the right.
Nice and far apart from each other.Sadly, KDE on Ubuntu looks like ass, and I've never figured out how to make those changes in Gnome.
(Yeah, I don't spend as much time in config files as I used to...)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353568</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355768</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Ubuntu</title>
	<author>sqldr</author>
	<datestamp>1267696260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If you wanted something that looked or behaved like Windows then you would be looking at KDE</p></div></blockquote><p>

This statement was true back in the days of KDE1.0 because they had the audacity to have a start menu.  If I wanted something to behave like windows I'll boot into windows.  Right now, I'm happy with KDE.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you wanted something that looked or behaved like Windows then you would be looking at KDE This statement was true back in the days of KDE1.0 because they had the audacity to have a start menu .
If I wanted something to behave like windows I 'll boot into windows .
Right now , I 'm happy with KDE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you wanted something that looked or behaved like Windows then you would be looking at KDE

This statement was true back in the days of KDE1.0 because they had the audacity to have a start menu.
If I wanted something to behave like windows I'll boot into windows.
Right now, I'm happy with KDE.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353720</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353804</id>
	<title>Dated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267630800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because so many people were coming from XP, ubuntu always look like a step in the right direction. But with so many people on windows 7, Ubuntu now is a step behind.

Also, does the new look feel like a dated MacOSX to anyone else?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because so many people were coming from XP , ubuntu always look like a step in the right direction .
But with so many people on windows 7 , Ubuntu now is a step behind .
Also , does the new look feel like a dated MacOSX to anyone else ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because so many people were coming from XP, ubuntu always look like a step in the right direction.
But with so many people on windows 7, Ubuntu now is a step behind.
Also, does the new look feel like a dated MacOSX to anyone else?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357752</id>
	<title>change is</title>
	<author>djfake</author>
	<datestamp>1267716900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>..change. What's important is that they're moving forward and not afraid at touching sacred cows so to speak. While I've come to equate brown with Ubuntu (got a few hoodies that are brown), I think I can handle the change. I've never really bothered to change the default theme because, it's just not that important to me. At any rate, Windows 7 has a very welcomed - and fresh - look and looking back is greatly improved upon from XP, while Mac OS X 10.6 still has that space vagina splash screen from Leopard... Move on Ubuntu, move forward!</htmltext>
<tokenext>..change .
What 's important is that they 're moving forward and not afraid at touching sacred cows so to speak .
While I 've come to equate brown with Ubuntu ( got a few hoodies that are brown ) , I think I can handle the change .
I 've never really bothered to change the default theme because , it 's just not that important to me .
At any rate , Windows 7 has a very welcomed - and fresh - look and looking back is greatly improved upon from XP , while Mac OS X 10.6 still has that space vagina splash screen from Leopard... Move on Ubuntu , move forward !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..change.
What's important is that they're moving forward and not afraid at touching sacred cows so to speak.
While I've come to equate brown with Ubuntu (got a few hoodies that are brown), I think I can handle the change.
I've never really bothered to change the default theme because, it's just not that important to me.
At any rate, Windows 7 has a very welcomed - and fresh - look and looking back is greatly improved upon from XP, while Mac OS X 10.6 still has that space vagina splash screen from Leopard... Move on Ubuntu, move forward!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354206</id>
	<title>Must be a slow news day...</title>
	<author>Angst Badger</author>
	<datestamp>1267634820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know about you, but I don't give a wet crap what the default theme looks like. Regardless of operating system, the defaults last just long enough for me to figure out how to change them to what I like. The only time I'm turned off by the defaults is when I can't change them. About the only graphics change in Ubuntu I'd care about is better support for a broader range of graphics cards.</p><p>Mind you, if the change makes Ubuntu appeal more to the kind of people who think desktop color schemes make a difference in how professional they are, great. I'm just not one of those people, and I rather suspect most self-selected Linux users aren't, either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about you , but I do n't give a wet crap what the default theme looks like .
Regardless of operating system , the defaults last just long enough for me to figure out how to change them to what I like .
The only time I 'm turned off by the defaults is when I ca n't change them .
About the only graphics change in Ubuntu I 'd care about is better support for a broader range of graphics cards.Mind you , if the change makes Ubuntu appeal more to the kind of people who think desktop color schemes make a difference in how professional they are , great .
I 'm just not one of those people , and I rather suspect most self-selected Linux users are n't , either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about you, but I don't give a wet crap what the default theme looks like.
Regardless of operating system, the defaults last just long enough for me to figure out how to change them to what I like.
The only time I'm turned off by the defaults is when I can't change them.
About the only graphics change in Ubuntu I'd care about is better support for a broader range of graphics cards.Mind you, if the change makes Ubuntu appeal more to the kind of people who think desktop color schemes make a difference in how professional they are, great.
I'm just not one of those people, and I rather suspect most self-selected Linux users aren't, either.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354924</id>
	<title>Ubuntu "dumps the brown"</title>
	<author>Tarlus</author>
	<datestamp>1267642680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ubuntu dumps the brown</p></div><p>I'm an accomplished adult and yet I can only barely resist the urge to make a poo joke.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu dumps the brownI 'm an accomplished adult and yet I can only barely resist the urge to make a poo joke .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu dumps the brownI'm an accomplished adult and yet I can only barely resist the urge to make a poo joke.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357256</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>gencha</author>
	<datestamp>1267713780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think they should be forced to display a window with 12 color schemes after installation so people must pick one. Or maybe that's just an EU thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think they should be forced to display a window with 12 color schemes after installation so people must pick one .
Or maybe that 's just an EU thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think they should be forced to display a window with 12 color schemes after installation so people must pick one.
Or maybe that's just an EU thing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31362760</id>
	<title>Color? Give me a break.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267697940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the hell? They changed the *colors*? I'm not stupid, I've installed an OS, I can very well change the color myself thank you very much. Now how about you change the antisocial icons with freakin fields of space around them? How about getting a cardio plan for those fat-ass clunky menus? Making a mouse settings dialog which allows a sensitivity other than "insane hyperactive cat on speed after drinking a liter of coffee at 4 am in a string factory"? What about default fonts which don't look like ass? What about a desktop which doesn't belong in a Rube Goldberg book (that's you KDE)?</p><p>Sure, I can change those too. Unfortunately it's a huge hassle. What turns people off about the interface is not the default- the XP default is hellishly bad. Thing is, going to no-nonsense theme in XP literally takes you 6 clicks, start, settings, control panel, themes, windows classic, ok. Ubuntu? Programs, internet, firefox, google.com, enter, "changing font on ubuntu linux", click some results, read, google.com, "ubuntu kerning fonts enable", click some results, programs, internet, xchat, freenode, #ubuntu, "hi, how can I fix my ugly fonts?", programs, system, terminal... With some clever montaging away of the "boring" parts, you could easily have an epic 3 hour <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/SearchStories" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">search story</a> [youtube.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the hell ?
They changed the * colors * ?
I 'm not stupid , I 've installed an OS , I can very well change the color myself thank you very much .
Now how about you change the antisocial icons with freakin fields of space around them ?
How about getting a cardio plan for those fat-ass clunky menus ?
Making a mouse settings dialog which allows a sensitivity other than " insane hyperactive cat on speed after drinking a liter of coffee at 4 am in a string factory " ?
What about default fonts which do n't look like ass ?
What about a desktop which does n't belong in a Rube Goldberg book ( that 's you KDE ) ? Sure , I can change those too .
Unfortunately it 's a huge hassle .
What turns people off about the interface is not the default- the XP default is hellishly bad .
Thing is , going to no-nonsense theme in XP literally takes you 6 clicks , start , settings , control panel , themes , windows classic , ok. Ubuntu ? Programs , internet , firefox , google.com , enter , " changing font on ubuntu linux " , click some results , read , google.com , " ubuntu kerning fonts enable " , click some results , programs , internet , xchat , freenode , # ubuntu , " hi , how can I fix my ugly fonts ?
" , programs , system , terminal... With some clever montaging away of the " boring " parts , you could easily have an epic 3 hour search story [ youtube.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the hell?
They changed the *colors*?
I'm not stupid, I've installed an OS, I can very well change the color myself thank you very much.
Now how about you change the antisocial icons with freakin fields of space around them?
How about getting a cardio plan for those fat-ass clunky menus?
Making a mouse settings dialog which allows a sensitivity other than "insane hyperactive cat on speed after drinking a liter of coffee at 4 am in a string factory"?
What about default fonts which don't look like ass?
What about a desktop which doesn't belong in a Rube Goldberg book (that's you KDE)?Sure, I can change those too.
Unfortunately it's a huge hassle.
What turns people off about the interface is not the default- the XP default is hellishly bad.
Thing is, going to no-nonsense theme in XP literally takes you 6 clicks, start, settings, control panel, themes, windows classic, ok. Ubuntu? Programs, internet, firefox, google.com, enter, "changing font on ubuntu linux", click some results, read, google.com, "ubuntu kerning fonts enable", click some results, programs, internet, xchat, freenode, #ubuntu, "hi, how can I fix my ugly fonts?
", programs, system, terminal... With some clever montaging away of the "boring" parts, you could easily have an epic 3 hour search story [youtube.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31361282</id>
	<title>List of things wrong with this.</title>
	<author>Requiem18th</author>
	<datestamp>1267734000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Orange+Purple is NOT professional.<br>2) It is a rip off of Snow Leopard.<br>3) It's still orange and gray, it's basically the new wave theme with a purple background and glaring WM buttons.<br>4) The WM buttons are not where Windows users are used to.<br>5) The WM buttons are not where OS X users are used to.<br>6) The WM buttons are not where Linux users are used to.<br>7) The WM buttons are not conforming to any usability or logic principle, in fact they just placed them exactly right to cause problems with the top panel menu.<br>8) Rebranding will not suddenly make the main issue with users way (OS inertia) but will help make ubuntu visually undistinctive.<br>9) It will alienate their surest target demographic, their current users.<br>10) They are doing it wrong anyway.</p><p>Feel free to expand the list.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Orange + Purple is NOT professional.2 ) It is a rip off of Snow Leopard.3 ) It 's still orange and gray , it 's basically the new wave theme with a purple background and glaring WM buttons.4 ) The WM buttons are not where Windows users are used to.5 ) The WM buttons are not where OS X users are used to.6 ) The WM buttons are not where Linux users are used to.7 ) The WM buttons are not conforming to any usability or logic principle , in fact they just placed them exactly right to cause problems with the top panel menu.8 ) Rebranding will not suddenly make the main issue with users way ( OS inertia ) but will help make ubuntu visually undistinctive.9 ) It will alienate their surest target demographic , their current users.10 ) They are doing it wrong anyway.Feel free to expand the list .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Orange+Purple is NOT professional.2) It is a rip off of Snow Leopard.3) It's still orange and gray, it's basically the new wave theme with a purple background and glaring WM buttons.4) The WM buttons are not where Windows users are used to.5) The WM buttons are not where OS X users are used to.6) The WM buttons are not where Linux users are used to.7) The WM buttons are not conforming to any usability or logic principle, in fact they just placed them exactly right to cause problems with the top panel menu.8) Rebranding will not suddenly make the main issue with users way (OS inertia) but will help make ubuntu visually undistinctive.9) It will alienate their surest target demographic, their current users.10) They are doing it wrong anyway.Feel free to expand the list.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356852</id>
	<title>You can whitewash it a different color</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267710480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But still the user interfaces on Ubuntu will look like outdated crap</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But still the user interfaces on Ubuntu will look like outdated crap</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But still the user interfaces on Ubuntu will look like outdated crap</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31361734</id>
	<title>who cares what it looks like</title>
	<author>systematical</author>
	<datestamp>1267736100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't LOOK at my operating system so much as I USE my operating system.  Does anyone really care about how sexy your O.S is?  I just want to get the task at hand done and Ubuntu works great for me.  Now if this helps them some how gain market share then bonus for me, it will likely lead to more improvements.  Though I did chuckle at orange and purple being professional, maybe they took a bid tip from these guys: <a href="http://www.unisys.com/unisys/" title="unisys.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.unisys.com/unisys/</a> [unisys.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't LOOK at my operating system so much as I USE my operating system .
Does anyone really care about how sexy your O.S is ?
I just want to get the task at hand done and Ubuntu works great for me .
Now if this helps them some how gain market share then bonus for me , it will likely lead to more improvements .
Though I did chuckle at orange and purple being professional , maybe they took a bid tip from these guys : http : //www.unisys.com/unisys/ [ unisys.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't LOOK at my operating system so much as I USE my operating system.
Does anyone really care about how sexy your O.S is?
I just want to get the task at hand done and Ubuntu works great for me.
Now if this helps them some how gain market share then bonus for me, it will likely lead to more improvements.
Though I did chuckle at orange and purple being professional, maybe they took a bid tip from these guys: http://www.unisys.com/unisys/ [unisys.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31361228</id>
	<title>Re:About Time</title>
	<author>rsborg</author>
	<datestamp>1267733820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>And just so it helps your aunt Tilly switch from XP, it also tucks those window close/restore/minimize buttons to the left. "Oh, great, like OS X!", I hear you thinking? Well, no, not really - to prevent further confusion, the buttons are still in the same relative order as on Windows (that is, Close is rightmost, not leftmost).</p></div></blockquote><p>If "usability" is Ubuntu's main objective, then this is a first major failure... they have decided to regress against <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitts's\_law" title="wikipedia.org">Fitt's Law</a> [wikipedia.org] for the close button, since it's now no longer in the easily found corner of the window, but instead nestled in the 3rd button position... now usability of this common function (close window) is Windows (can close using both left-upper-corner double-click and clicking the Red X on right-upper-corner), followed by OSX (Click the right-upper-corner red circle) followed by Ubuntu (click on red circle, but its not near a corner).</p><p>One reason to hate this redesign... who TF masterminded this?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And just so it helps your aunt Tilly switch from XP , it also tucks those window close/restore/minimize buttons to the left .
" Oh , great , like OS X !
" , I hear you thinking ?
Well , no , not really - to prevent further confusion , the buttons are still in the same relative order as on Windows ( that is , Close is rightmost , not leftmost ) .If " usability " is Ubuntu 's main objective , then this is a first major failure... they have decided to regress against Fitt 's Law [ wikipedia.org ] for the close button , since it 's now no longer in the easily found corner of the window , but instead nestled in the 3rd button position... now usability of this common function ( close window ) is Windows ( can close using both left-upper-corner double-click and clicking the Red X on right-upper-corner ) , followed by OSX ( Click the right-upper-corner red circle ) followed by Ubuntu ( click on red circle , but its not near a corner ) .One reason to hate this redesign... who TF masterminded this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And just so it helps your aunt Tilly switch from XP, it also tucks those window close/restore/minimize buttons to the left.
"Oh, great, like OS X!
", I hear you thinking?
Well, no, not really - to prevent further confusion, the buttons are still in the same relative order as on Windows (that is, Close is rightmost, not leftmost).If "usability" is Ubuntu's main objective, then this is a first major failure... they have decided to regress against Fitt's Law [wikipedia.org] for the close button, since it's now no longer in the easily found corner of the window, but instead nestled in the 3rd button position... now usability of this common function (close window) is Windows (can close using both left-upper-corner double-click and clicking the Red X on right-upper-corner), followed by OSX (Click the right-upper-corner red circle) followed by Ubuntu (click on red circle, but its not near a corner).One reason to hate this redesign... who TF masterminded this?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353754</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356798</id>
	<title>Rolling color palette</title>
	<author>advid.net</author>
	<datestamp>1267709880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Solution:<br>
(so we'll never see again this useless color discussion)
<p>
Have a dozen color palettes pre-set. Lay down a handy desktop widget to switch from one to another <b>with one click, no more</b>.<br>
There's some web sites with this css switch ability: one click instant change. And all the page have an new color theme.<br>
Make the same for KDE and Gnome.
</p><p>
For initial color setings: make it random of time dependant: Sunrise color set in the morning, bright theme for noon, dim color theme for night, and various transitions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Solution : ( so we 'll never see again this useless color discussion ) Have a dozen color palettes pre-set .
Lay down a handy desktop widget to switch from one to another with one click , no more .
There 's some web sites with this css switch ability : one click instant change .
And all the page have an new color theme .
Make the same for KDE and Gnome .
For initial color setings : make it random of time dependant : Sunrise color set in the morning , bright theme for noon , dim color theme for night , and various transitions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Solution:
(so we'll never see again this useless color discussion)

Have a dozen color palettes pre-set.
Lay down a handy desktop widget to switch from one to another with one click, no more.
There's some web sites with this css switch ability: one click instant change.
And all the page have an new color theme.
Make the same for KDE and Gnome.
For initial color setings: make it random of time dependant: Sunrise color set in the morning, bright theme for noon, dim color theme for night, and various transitions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356888</id>
	<title>Perfectly complementing colors</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1267710900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Purple and orange go together sublimely, like cr&#232;me brul&#233;e and gravel.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Purple and orange go together sublimely , like cr   me brul   e and gravel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Purple and orange go together sublimely, like crème brulée and gravel.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355398</id>
	<title>Re:New theme</title>
	<author>TangoMargarine</author>
	<datestamp>1267735020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, my first thought was that they had ditched the circly thingie with the little circly thingies (is there an actual name for it?) and replaced it with the Debian swirl.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , my first thought was that they had ditched the circly thingie with the little circly thingies ( is there an actual name for it ?
) and replaced it with the Debian swirl .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, my first thought was that they had ditched the circly thingie with the little circly thingies (is there an actual name for it?
) and replaced it with the Debian swirl.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354944</id>
	<title>Not an improvement.</title>
	<author>MaWeiTao</author>
	<datestamp>1267642860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These open source designs always scream open source. They just lack the polish and careful thought that you get with Windows or OSX. Far too often the designer resorts to being different for the sake of being different. Having done interface design for years now there are a few things that come to mind off the top of my head I'd work on.</p><p>A few critiques:<br>Overall the design looks a bit dated. I'm not suggesting they should have done something obnoxious, but it feels like insufficient effort was put into this.</p><p>Icons are flat, like they tried going for a dimensional look but either lacked the talent or the inclination to go all the way.</p><p>Font selection is clumsy. The font itself is quite good, but it's a bit on the large size given the scale, but more importantly everything is crammed together.</p><p>Icons and buttons almost look randomly placed. Why is zoom sitting between some icons and view selection. Is view selection even so important that it needs to be featured prominently? The folder buttons are too pronounced in relation to everything else and there's insufficient visual separation between that and the places dropdown.</p><p>There's insufficiently visual separation between windows in the foreground and background, although honestly I think OSX has this problem too. It gets problematic trying to pick something out when multiple windows are open. There's no sense of prioritization to anything so everything blurs together at a glance.</p><p>Those windows are poorly balanced. Why is everything left aligned, leaving most of the title banner empty?</p><p>This really looks like the rough draft of a GUI. If you want to sell an OS to the average user you've really got to make it approachable. That means making it visually appealing and polished. This is one of those things that doesn't seem important when done right, but people always notice it when something is missing. Also important is giving real consideration to the user experience. These designs look to me like someone simply copied Windows and added in a bunch of elements from OSX. Certainly there's a sense of familiarity users have with Windows, but why not study both OSX and Windows and try to get a sense for what works and what doesn't then build your GUI around that? And based on some comments I've seen it seems elements of the design even break Fitt's laws.</p><p>Having used the previous version of Ubuntu I wouldn't really say this is an improvement at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These open source designs always scream open source .
They just lack the polish and careful thought that you get with Windows or OSX .
Far too often the designer resorts to being different for the sake of being different .
Having done interface design for years now there are a few things that come to mind off the top of my head I 'd work on.A few critiques : Overall the design looks a bit dated .
I 'm not suggesting they should have done something obnoxious , but it feels like insufficient effort was put into this.Icons are flat , like they tried going for a dimensional look but either lacked the talent or the inclination to go all the way.Font selection is clumsy .
The font itself is quite good , but it 's a bit on the large size given the scale , but more importantly everything is crammed together.Icons and buttons almost look randomly placed .
Why is zoom sitting between some icons and view selection .
Is view selection even so important that it needs to be featured prominently ?
The folder buttons are too pronounced in relation to everything else and there 's insufficient visual separation between that and the places dropdown.There 's insufficiently visual separation between windows in the foreground and background , although honestly I think OSX has this problem too .
It gets problematic trying to pick something out when multiple windows are open .
There 's no sense of prioritization to anything so everything blurs together at a glance.Those windows are poorly balanced .
Why is everything left aligned , leaving most of the title banner empty ? This really looks like the rough draft of a GUI .
If you want to sell an OS to the average user you 've really got to make it approachable .
That means making it visually appealing and polished .
This is one of those things that does n't seem important when done right , but people always notice it when something is missing .
Also important is giving real consideration to the user experience .
These designs look to me like someone simply copied Windows and added in a bunch of elements from OSX .
Certainly there 's a sense of familiarity users have with Windows , but why not study both OSX and Windows and try to get a sense for what works and what does n't then build your GUI around that ?
And based on some comments I 've seen it seems elements of the design even break Fitt 's laws.Having used the previous version of Ubuntu I would n't really say this is an improvement at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These open source designs always scream open source.
They just lack the polish and careful thought that you get with Windows or OSX.
Far too often the designer resorts to being different for the sake of being different.
Having done interface design for years now there are a few things that come to mind off the top of my head I'd work on.A few critiques:Overall the design looks a bit dated.
I'm not suggesting they should have done something obnoxious, but it feels like insufficient effort was put into this.Icons are flat, like they tried going for a dimensional look but either lacked the talent or the inclination to go all the way.Font selection is clumsy.
The font itself is quite good, but it's a bit on the large size given the scale, but more importantly everything is crammed together.Icons and buttons almost look randomly placed.
Why is zoom sitting between some icons and view selection.
Is view selection even so important that it needs to be featured prominently?
The folder buttons are too pronounced in relation to everything else and there's insufficient visual separation between that and the places dropdown.There's insufficiently visual separation between windows in the foreground and background, although honestly I think OSX has this problem too.
It gets problematic trying to pick something out when multiple windows are open.
There's no sense of prioritization to anything so everything blurs together at a glance.Those windows are poorly balanced.
Why is everything left aligned, leaving most of the title banner empty?This really looks like the rough draft of a GUI.
If you want to sell an OS to the average user you've really got to make it approachable.
That means making it visually appealing and polished.
This is one of those things that doesn't seem important when done right, but people always notice it when something is missing.
Also important is giving real consideration to the user experience.
These designs look to me like someone simply copied Windows and added in a bunch of elements from OSX.
Certainly there's a sense of familiarity users have with Windows, but why not study both OSX and Windows and try to get a sense for what works and what doesn't then build your GUI around that?
And based on some comments I've seen it seems elements of the design even break Fitt's laws.Having used the previous version of Ubuntu I wouldn't really say this is an improvement at all.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353720</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Ubuntu</title>
	<author>enoz</author>
	<datestamp>1267630320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use Ubuntu but not Gnome. You see, with Linux the <i>user</i> can choose the UI.</p><p>If you wanted something that looked or behaved like Windows then you would be looking at KDE, not Gnome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Ubuntu but not Gnome .
You see , with Linux the user can choose the UI.If you wanted something that looked or behaved like Windows then you would be looking at KDE , not Gnome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Ubuntu but not Gnome.
You see, with Linux the user can choose the UI.If you wanted something that looked or behaved like Windows then you would be looking at KDE, not Gnome.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355476</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267735980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The ultimate scheme is to keep the destructive close button on the left, and the non-destructive minimise and maximise on the right. Or swap it around if you like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The ultimate scheme is to keep the destructive close button on the left , and the non-destructive minimise and maximise on the right .
Or swap it around if you like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ultimate scheme is to keep the destructive close button on the left, and the non-destructive minimise and maximise on the right.
Or swap it around if you like.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354272</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355944</id>
	<title>Re:About Time</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1267698720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are plenty of color schemes you can download. <a href="http://gnome-look.org/" title="gnome-look.org">http://gnome-look.org/</a> [gnome-look.org] <a href="http://www.kde-look.org/" title="kde-look.org">http://www.kde-look.org/</a> [kde-look.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are plenty of color schemes you can download .
http : //gnome-look.org/ [ gnome-look.org ] http : //www.kde-look.org/ [ kde-look.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are plenty of color schemes you can download.
http://gnome-look.org/ [gnome-look.org] http://www.kde-look.org/ [kde-look.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353548</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354786</id>
	<title>Re:Bad window frame button choice</title>
	<author>Aphoxema</author>
	<datestamp>1267640940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've grown pretty fond of maximus and window-picker-applet. No titlebar and the close button is always in the same place on the screen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've grown pretty fond of maximus and window-picker-applet .
No titlebar and the close button is always in the same place on the screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've grown pretty fond of maximus and window-picker-applet.
No titlebar and the close button is always in the same place on the screen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353846</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356132</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267701060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously? That Technix theme looks like something from the time when it was cool modding your Win 98 install with litestep themes.</p><p>They should use Gnome-Colors for icons and Shiki-Colors for the theme.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
That Technix theme looks like something from the time when it was cool modding your Win 98 install with litestep themes.They should use Gnome-Colors for icons and Shiki-Colors for the theme .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
That Technix theme looks like something from the time when it was cool modding your Win 98 install with litestep themes.They should use Gnome-Colors for icons and Shiki-Colors for the theme.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353514</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354360</id>
	<title>Re:Excuse me?</title>
	<author>Ungrounded Lightning</author>
	<datestamp>1267636440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><blockquote><div><p>I suppose that's why industries that care about their professional image never use brown for anything.</p></div></blockquote><p>Explain UPS then?</p></div></blockquote><p>The UPS trucks are painted "Pullman Brown".  This is a paint color originally selected by the company that made the Pullman railroad cars.</p><p>It was selected after considerable research:  It is the color that can get the most road dirt on it before it LOOKS dirty.  This lets them use a long interval between washings, saving money on cleaning while still having equipment that looks decent.  When you have a large number of rail cars - or delivery trucks - it costs a LOT to keep them clean-looking.  So savings on cleaning adds up fast.</p><p>(When my wife or I purchase an offroad vehicle we try to find one with a paint color close to Pullman Brown, for the same reason.  My wife's Cheroke is such a color - though a tad redish.  My Ford F-150 4x4 is white - which {surprisingly} also can go a long time without washing or looking bad in the kind of road and offroad dust it encounters - though mud looks bad right away and needs a hose-down.  Shades of FedEx - literally.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose that 's why industries that care about their professional image never use brown for anything.Explain UPS then ? The UPS trucks are painted " Pullman Brown " .
This is a paint color originally selected by the company that made the Pullman railroad cars.It was selected after considerable research : It is the color that can get the most road dirt on it before it LOOKS dirty .
This lets them use a long interval between washings , saving money on cleaning while still having equipment that looks decent .
When you have a large number of rail cars - or delivery trucks - it costs a LOT to keep them clean-looking .
So savings on cleaning adds up fast .
( When my wife or I purchase an offroad vehicle we try to find one with a paint color close to Pullman Brown , for the same reason .
My wife 's Cheroke is such a color - though a tad redish .
My Ford F-150 4x4 is white - which { surprisingly } also can go a long time without washing or looking bad in the kind of road and offroad dust it encounters - though mud looks bad right away and needs a hose-down .
Shades of FedEx - literally .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose that's why industries that care about their professional image never use brown for anything.Explain UPS then?The UPS trucks are painted "Pullman Brown".
This is a paint color originally selected by the company that made the Pullman railroad cars.It was selected after considerable research:  It is the color that can get the most road dirt on it before it LOOKS dirty.
This lets them use a long interval between washings, saving money on cleaning while still having equipment that looks decent.
When you have a large number of rail cars - or delivery trucks - it costs a LOT to keep them clean-looking.
So savings on cleaning adds up fast.
(When my wife or I purchase an offroad vehicle we try to find one with a paint color close to Pullman Brown, for the same reason.
My wife's Cheroke is such a color - though a tad redish.
My Ford F-150 4x4 is white - which {surprisingly} also can go a long time without washing or looking bad in the kind of road and offroad dust it encounters - though mud looks bad right away and needs a hose-down.
Shades of FedEx - literally.
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353638</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355222</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267732800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My girlfriend got my old laptop with debian (still) on it - she (windows used) didn't complain or something.</p><p>Sometime later I replaced debian with ubuntu and she was complaining "its ugly" and she wanted debian back. I changed to clearlooks and everything was fine<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My girlfriend got my old laptop with debian ( still ) on it - she ( windows used ) did n't complain or something.Sometime later I replaced debian with ubuntu and she was complaining " its ugly " and she wanted debian back .
I changed to clearlooks and everything was fine : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My girlfriend got my old laptop with debian (still) on it - she (windows used) didn't complain or something.Sometime later I replaced debian with ubuntu and she was complaining "its ugly" and she wanted debian back.
I changed to clearlooks and everything was fine :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354070</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267633140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See this is why I use Xubuntu, the default theme is nice.  Also XFCE is better than Gnome, IMHO.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See this is why I use Xubuntu , the default theme is nice .
Also XFCE is better than Gnome , IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See this is why I use Xubuntu, the default theme is nice.
Also XFCE is better than Gnome, IMHO.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31363140</id>
	<title>Re:Bad window frame button choice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267699140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stupid UI change, the Mac can put its close button on the left side, because the menu bar is at the top of the screen. Now everytime someone misses "edit" they are going to hit close instead. Close isn't exactly a button you want to be accidently hitting all the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stupid UI change , the Mac can put its close button on the left side , because the menu bar is at the top of the screen .
Now everytime someone misses " edit " they are going to hit close instead .
Close is n't exactly a button you want to be accidently hitting all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stupid UI change, the Mac can put its close button on the left side, because the menu bar is at the top of the screen.
Now everytime someone misses "edit" they are going to hit close instead.
Close isn't exactly a button you want to be accidently hitting all the time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353846</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353664</id>
	<title>It might look nicer but</title>
	<author>dtbw</author>
	<datestamp>1267629900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would be happier if things like mounting digital cameras worked consistently from one release to the next without scouring the web looking for the latest hoop to jump through.  Yes I can find the answer and make it work but a lot of potential converts will give up and pop the Windows 7 install disk in.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would be happier if things like mounting digital cameras worked consistently from one release to the next without scouring the web looking for the latest hoop to jump through .
Yes I can find the answer and make it work but a lot of potential converts will give up and pop the Windows 7 install disk in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would be happier if things like mounting digital cameras worked consistently from one release to the next without scouring the web looking for the latest hoop to jump through.
Yes I can find the answer and make it work but a lot of potential converts will give up and pop the Windows 7 install disk in.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354646</id>
	<title>Re:Where's the green?</title>
	<author>nullchar</author>
	<datestamp>1267639560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Duh, they wanted to make browsing Slashdot even prettier!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Duh , they wanted to make browsing Slashdot even prettier !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Duh, they wanted to make browsing Slashdot even prettier!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354286</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</id>
	<title>Anonymous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267628760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anyone actually ever use the default Ubuntu theme? I know whenever I install Gnome the first thing I do is set it to clearlooks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone actually ever use the default Ubuntu theme ?
I know whenever I install Gnome the first thing I do is set it to clearlooks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone actually ever use the default Ubuntu theme?
I know whenever I install Gnome the first thing I do is set it to clearlooks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356472</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267705440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might wanna check the URL, it doesn't have *ppl.sla* in it. Or maybe the Field has gotten here.</p><p>Apparently hitting something a thousand pixels away is and resizing the window from the corner is easier than hitting something above the menus and pressing alt+middle click. But hey, don't let anyone stop ya.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might wan na check the URL , it does n't have * ppl.sla * in it .
Or maybe the Field has gotten here.Apparently hitting something a thousand pixels away is and resizing the window from the corner is easier than hitting something above the menus and pressing alt + middle click .
But hey , do n't let anyone stop ya .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might wanna check the URL, it doesn't have *ppl.sla* in it.
Or maybe the Field has gotten here.Apparently hitting something a thousand pixels away is and resizing the window from the corner is easier than hitting something above the menus and pressing alt+middle click.
But hey, don't let anyone stop ya.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354144</id>
	<title>Re:Bad window frame button choice</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1267634040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>what is 'infinite-dimension' effect?</htmltext>
<tokenext>what is 'infinite-dimension ' effect ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what is 'infinite-dimension' effect?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353846</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354130</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, what?</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1267633920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>black. you can never go wrong with black. unless you wear all black, 'cause then you look like a waiter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>black .
you can never go wrong with black .
unless you wear all black , 'cause then you look like a waiter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>black.
you can never go wrong with black.
unless you wear all black, 'cause then you look like a waiter.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353614</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31358170</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>dsavi</author>
	<datestamp>1267719660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nope. First thing I do is switch it to "New wave". That theme may have a strange color scheme (Not too strange, mind you- A sort of contemporary black and orange) but it is very well designed and has a very original and practical feel to it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nope .
First thing I do is switch it to " New wave " .
That theme may have a strange color scheme ( Not too strange , mind you- A sort of contemporary black and orange ) but it is very well designed and has a very original and practical feel to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nope.
First thing I do is switch it to "New wave".
That theme may have a strange color scheme (Not too strange, mind you- A sort of contemporary black and orange) but it is very well designed and has a very original and practical feel to it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353878</id>
	<title>Re:It might look nicer but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267631460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And the rest of us would be happier if asstard trolls like you would stop spreading FUD.  Seriously, you are complaining about jumping through hoops for USB automounting?  1999 called.  They want their dumbass back.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And the rest of us would be happier if asstard trolls like you would stop spreading FUD .
Seriously , you are complaining about jumping through hoops for USB automounting ?
1999 called .
They want their dumbass back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the rest of us would be happier if asstard trolls like you would stop spreading FUD.
Seriously, you are complaining about jumping through hoops for USB automounting?
1999 called.
They want their dumbass back.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356912</id>
	<title>I was getting used to the brown --more gold really</title>
	<author>smchris</author>
	<datestamp>1267711140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But I guess purple is metrosexual -- which is "inclusive" in its own way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But I guess purple is metrosexual -- which is " inclusive " in its own way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I guess purple is metrosexual -- which is "inclusive" in its own way.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353596</id>
	<title>Not-black black boot screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't stand the off black boot screen. Makes me keep guessing if I am looking at black or not (its not).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't stand the off black boot screen .
Makes me keep guessing if I am looking at black or not ( its not ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't stand the off black boot screen.
Makes me keep guessing if I am looking at black or not (its not).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355342</id>
	<title>Is this really important?</title>
	<author>aldld</author>
	<datestamp>1267734360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't see why so much effort is being put into the design when I, and most people I know, would probably use a customized theme anyway.</p><p>The time spent working on the default theme could probably be better spent working on more important things that users complain about, like working on hardware compatibility, improving security, increasing performance, and general bug squashing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see why so much effort is being put into the design when I , and most people I know , would probably use a customized theme anyway.The time spent working on the default theme could probably be better spent working on more important things that users complain about , like working on hardware compatibility , improving security , increasing performance , and general bug squashing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see why so much effort is being put into the design when I, and most people I know, would probably use a customized theme anyway.The time spent working on the default theme could probably be better spent working on more important things that users complain about, like working on hardware compatibility, improving security, increasing performance, and general bug squashing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31378390</id>
	<title>Re:Still looks like garbage.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267806420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>VLC is much, much better than any other video player for Linux.</p></div><p>You confused VLC with mplayer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>VLC is much , much better than any other video player for Linux.You confused VLC with mplayer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VLC is much, much better than any other video player for Linux.You confused VLC with mplayer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356382</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353582</id>
	<title>Use Clearlooks?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Honestly, Clearlooks is the best Gnome theme I have seen and I have used it for years now.</p><p>I don't see why a theme should be such a big deal in an OS where you can change it so easily.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , Clearlooks is the best Gnome theme I have seen and I have used it for years now.I do n't see why a theme should be such a big deal in an OS where you can change it so easily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, Clearlooks is the best Gnome theme I have seen and I have used it for years now.I don't see why a theme should be such a big deal in an OS where you can change it so easily.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353958</id>
	<title>I hope this isn't finalized</title>
	<author>thrift24</author>
	<datestamp>1267632060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have they done any usability testing on this?  The button locations in the screenshots shown are less than ideal to say the least.  <br> <br>

First of all moving the buttons from the expected upper right corner to the left is going to go against most people's expectations, for both those familiar with Windows or previous Ubuntu Releases.  Is there truly a reason for moving them to the left side or are they just trying to confuse users.<br> <br>

Even if there is some reason to move these buttons to the left hand side the ordering is poor.  I would expect the most used buttons to be in the corners where they are easy to find without having to search through all the icons.  Entirely to the opposite of my expectation they have placed the maximize/restore button in the far left corner.  Do people really use this button more than the minimize or close buttons?  I'd like to see a a program optionally deployed to current ubuntu users to gather statistics on which buttons are most heavily used if we are going to start ordering the buttons in some totally unique way.<br> <br>

Also the top panel is hugely cluttered.<br> <br>

Where is the bottom panel and task list?<br> <br>

If this is supposed to be the new Ubuntu experience, they really need to get back to the drawing board.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have they done any usability testing on this ?
The button locations in the screenshots shown are less than ideal to say the least .
First of all moving the buttons from the expected upper right corner to the left is going to go against most people 's expectations , for both those familiar with Windows or previous Ubuntu Releases .
Is there truly a reason for moving them to the left side or are they just trying to confuse users .
Even if there is some reason to move these buttons to the left hand side the ordering is poor .
I would expect the most used buttons to be in the corners where they are easy to find without having to search through all the icons .
Entirely to the opposite of my expectation they have placed the maximize/restore button in the far left corner .
Do people really use this button more than the minimize or close buttons ?
I 'd like to see a a program optionally deployed to current ubuntu users to gather statistics on which buttons are most heavily used if we are going to start ordering the buttons in some totally unique way .
Also the top panel is hugely cluttered .
Where is the bottom panel and task list ?
If this is supposed to be the new Ubuntu experience , they really need to get back to the drawing board .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have they done any usability testing on this?
The button locations in the screenshots shown are less than ideal to say the least.
First of all moving the buttons from the expected upper right corner to the left is going to go against most people's expectations, for both those familiar with Windows or previous Ubuntu Releases.
Is there truly a reason for moving them to the left side or are they just trying to confuse users.
Even if there is some reason to move these buttons to the left hand side the ordering is poor.
I would expect the most used buttons to be in the corners where they are easy to find without having to search through all the icons.
Entirely to the opposite of my expectation they have placed the maximize/restore button in the far left corner.
Do people really use this button more than the minimize or close buttons?
I'd like to see a a program optionally deployed to current ubuntu users to gather statistics on which buttons are most heavily used if we are going to start ordering the buttons in some totally unique way.
Also the top panel is hugely cluttered.
Where is the bottom panel and task list?
If this is supposed to be the new Ubuntu experience, they really need to get back to the drawing board.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353614</id>
	<title>Wait, what?</title>
	<author>geminidomino</author>
	<datestamp>1267629600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Purple and orange" is a professional color scheme?</p><p>I don't even know what color tie goes with a blue shirt, but even I know that's awful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Purple and orange " is a professional color scheme ? I do n't even know what color tie goes with a blue shirt , but even I know that 's awful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Purple and orange" is a professional color scheme?I don't even know what color tie goes with a blue shirt, but even I know that's awful.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356104</id>
	<title>Link to the Ubuntu Brand page</title>
	<author>Macka</author>
	<datestamp>1267700820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or you can go direct to the actual <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand" title="ubuntu.com">Ubuntu Brand</a> [ubuntu.com] page and see the new screenshots as they were meant to be viewed, i.e. larger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or you can go direct to the actual Ubuntu Brand [ ubuntu.com ] page and see the new screenshots as they were meant to be viewed , i.e .
larger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you can go direct to the actual Ubuntu Brand [ubuntu.com] page and see the new screenshots as they were meant to be viewed, i.e.
larger.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353622</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353610</id>
	<title>familiar</title>
	<author>xbeefsupreme</author>
	<datestamp>1267629540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does anyone else think it looks more like mac os X?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone else think it looks more like mac os X ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone else think it looks more like mac os X?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357300</id>
	<title>Re:New theme</title>
	<author>ianare</author>
	<datestamp>1267714020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's called the 'circle of friends'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's called the 'circle of friends' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's called the 'circle of friends'.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353638</id>
	<title>Re:Excuse me?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I suppose that's why industries that care about their professional image never use brown for anything.</p></div><p>Explain UPS then?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose that 's why industries that care about their professional image never use brown for anything.Explain UPS then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose that's why industries that care about their professional image never use brown for anything.Explain UPS then?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353592</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357380</id>
	<title>Re:Window control buttons on the left? Bad.</title>
	<author>boteeka</author>
	<datestamp>1267714500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/worried-ubuntu-1004-will-have-left-hand.html?utm\_source=feedburner&amp;utm\_medium=twitter&amp;utm\_campaign=Feed\%3A+d0od+(Omg!+Ubuntu!)" title="omgubuntu.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/worried-ubuntu-1004-will-have-left-hand.html?utm\_source=feedburner&amp;utm\_medium=twitter&amp;utm\_campaign=Feed\%3A+d0od+(Omg!+Ubuntu!)</a> [omgubuntu.co.uk]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/worried-ubuntu-1004-will-have-left-hand.html ? utm \ _source = feedburner&amp;utm \ _medium = twitter&amp;utm \ _campaign = Feed \ % 3A + d0od + ( Omg ! + Ubuntu !
) [ omgubuntu.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/worried-ubuntu-1004-will-have-left-hand.html?utm\_source=feedburner&amp;utm\_medium=twitter&amp;utm\_campaign=Feed\%3A+d0od+(Omg!+Ubuntu!
) [omgubuntu.co.uk]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353558</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355276</id>
	<title>This is a more major upgrade than it first seems</title>
	<author>qrwe</author>
	<datestamp>1267733520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If to get really serious, they should choose one side for the window control buttons and stick with it for eternity. This issue is NOT just to wink away with a "Cool, new theme! But I can change it anytime"-comment.</p><p>The big competitors to Ubuntu (besides other Linux distros), Windows and Mac OS, has learned this a long time ago. People knows how it looks like and exactly how to use it. I'm not saying this theme change is a bad thing (personally, I think the lighter one is actually beautiful), but for the average user, this should be seen as very major upgrade! Newbies will find it hard to see why the buttons are moved if they would change that again.</p><p>
"Why did they change the computer? They said Ubuntu was free and easy to use, but they change my computer all the time! I want my other computer back! What was it called again, Windows something.."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If to get really serious , they should choose one side for the window control buttons and stick with it for eternity .
This issue is NOT just to wink away with a " Cool , new theme !
But I can change it anytime " -comment.The big competitors to Ubuntu ( besides other Linux distros ) , Windows and Mac OS , has learned this a long time ago .
People knows how it looks like and exactly how to use it .
I 'm not saying this theme change is a bad thing ( personally , I think the lighter one is actually beautiful ) , but for the average user , this should be seen as very major upgrade !
Newbies will find it hard to see why the buttons are moved if they would change that again .
" Why did they change the computer ?
They said Ubuntu was free and easy to use , but they change my computer all the time !
I want my other computer back !
What was it called again , Windows something.. "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If to get really serious, they should choose one side for the window control buttons and stick with it for eternity.
This issue is NOT just to wink away with a "Cool, new theme!
But I can change it anytime"-comment.The big competitors to Ubuntu (besides other Linux distros), Windows and Mac OS, has learned this a long time ago.
People knows how it looks like and exactly how to use it.
I'm not saying this theme change is a bad thing (personally, I think the lighter one is actually beautiful), but for the average user, this should be seen as very major upgrade!
Newbies will find it hard to see why the buttons are moved if they would change that again.
"Why did they change the computer?
They said Ubuntu was free and easy to use, but they change my computer all the time!
I want my other computer back!
What was it called again, Windows something.."</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356616</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>Corporate Troll</author>
	<datestamp>1267707720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, I use it.  Personally, I even like it.  I'll be sad to see it go... Now I'll have to change the default, well unless the new one is bearable too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I use it .
Personally , I even like it .
I 'll be sad to see it go... Now I 'll have to change the default , well unless the new one is bearable too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I use it.
Personally, I even like it.
I'll be sad to see it go... Now I'll have to change the default, well unless the new one is bearable too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355430</id>
	<title>Re:Coral link to this:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267735500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Watch out! The link is goatse!</p><p>Wait... no, it actually is the new Ubuntu style for Gnome.</p><p>Sorry for the noise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Watch out !
The link is goatse ! Wait... no , it actually is the new Ubuntu style for Gnome.Sorry for the noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Watch out!
The link is goatse!Wait... no, it actually is the new Ubuntu style for Gnome.Sorry for the noise.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353622</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353548</id>
	<title>About Time</title>
	<author>honkycat</author>
	<datestamp>1267629060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is long overdue.  The brown theme was a major turnoff for me.  It seems silly, I know, but the first impression is an important one.  This was at least part of the reason I preferred Kubuntu.  The quick screenshot looks a lot better to me.</p><p>And yes, of course you can change the colors, but there's a lot of value of a nice out-of-the-box experience.  Developing your own color scheme is trickier than you'd think to get "right."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is long overdue .
The brown theme was a major turnoff for me .
It seems silly , I know , but the first impression is an important one .
This was at least part of the reason I preferred Kubuntu .
The quick screenshot looks a lot better to me.And yes , of course you can change the colors , but there 's a lot of value of a nice out-of-the-box experience .
Developing your own color scheme is trickier than you 'd think to get " right .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is long overdue.
The brown theme was a major turnoff for me.
It seems silly, I know, but the first impression is an important one.
This was at least part of the reason I preferred Kubuntu.
The quick screenshot looks a lot better to me.And yes, of course you can change the colors, but there's a lot of value of a nice out-of-the-box experience.
Developing your own color scheme is trickier than you'd think to get "right.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353456</id>
	<title>Dear Ubuntu</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267628580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't change all the time like Windows seems to do.  Be yourself and we'll accept you.  Rebranding almost never helps.  Consistency does.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't change all the time like Windows seems to do .
Be yourself and we 'll accept you .
Rebranding almost never helps .
Consistency does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't change all the time like Windows seems to do.
Be yourself and we'll accept you.
Rebranding almost never helps.
Consistency does.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31367242</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid button placement.</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1267723920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Why? The button that performs the more consequential / less reversible / potentially annoying action (=closing a window) must be separated from the ones that perform less serious ones (=resizing or hiding its content).</i></p><p>Some days I really wish my window manager was as good as System 7.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
The button that performs the more consequential / less reversible / potentially annoying action ( = closing a window ) must be separated from the ones that perform less serious ones ( = resizing or hiding its content ) .Some days I really wish my window manager was as good as System 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
The button that performs the more consequential / less reversible / potentially annoying action (=closing a window) must be separated from the ones that perform less serious ones (=resizing or hiding its content).Some days I really wish my window manager was as good as System 7.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354468</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353534</id>
	<title>Rebranding seems silly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Changing the look just to rebrand the OS seems silly, but Ubuntu has been in a desperate need for a new default color scheme for sometime. The screenshots look very beautiful, almost like a sunset with the dark UI almost like the nighttime slowly taking over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Changing the look just to rebrand the OS seems silly , but Ubuntu has been in a desperate need for a new default color scheme for sometime .
The screenshots look very beautiful , almost like a sunset with the dark UI almost like the nighttime slowly taking over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Changing the look just to rebrand the OS seems silly, but Ubuntu has been in a desperate need for a new default color scheme for sometime.
The screenshots look very beautiful, almost like a sunset with the dark UI almost like the nighttime slowly taking over.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356698</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267708680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I never resize by pressing the buttons near the X. Just double click on the window bar and then drag the window corners to your liking. Closing a window means that you don't care any more, i.e. you do not want to aim for the X. You just want it to go away. See the "infinite dimension effect" somebody mentioned below. In addition trying to hit Edit might as well close the window which is a *very* bad timing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I never resize by pressing the buttons near the X. Just double click on the window bar and then drag the window corners to your liking .
Closing a window means that you do n't care any more , i.e .
you do not want to aim for the X. You just want it to go away .
See the " infinite dimension effect " somebody mentioned below .
In addition trying to hit Edit might as well close the window which is a * very * bad timing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I never resize by pressing the buttons near the X. Just double click on the window bar and then drag the window corners to your liking.
Closing a window means that you don't care any more, i.e.
you do not want to aim for the X. You just want it to go away.
See the "infinite dimension effect" somebody mentioned below.
In addition trying to hit Edit might as well close the window which is a *very* bad timing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353700</id>
	<title>Everyone.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267630140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It'd be nice if that color scheme were accompanied by actual action toward a better Ubuntu.  Go red and green.  I'll be looking for a computer that works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'd be nice if that color scheme were accompanied by actual action toward a better Ubuntu .
Go red and green .
I 'll be looking for a computer that works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'd be nice if that color scheme were accompanied by actual action toward a better Ubuntu.
Go red and green.
I'll be looking for a computer that works.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356094</id>
	<title>Visually aggressive color schemes are fatiguing.</title>
	<author>iliketrash</author>
	<datestamp>1267700400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Visually aggressive color schemes are fatiguing. Why doesn't anyone besides Apple get this?</p><p>Microsoft = Yellow Green Blue Red</p><p>Ubuntu = Purple Orange Brown</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Visually aggressive color schemes are fatiguing .
Why does n't anyone besides Apple get this ? Microsoft = Yellow Green Blue RedUbuntu = Purple Orange Brown</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Visually aggressive color schemes are fatiguing.
Why doesn't anyone besides Apple get this?Microsoft = Yellow Green Blue RedUbuntu = Purple Orange Brown</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356000</id>
	<title>Just 9 settings tweaked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267699200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All they've done is change a few of the Appearance-&gt;Theme-&gt;Color choices, and added a minimal mauve background.</p><p>This barely rates a press release, let alone an arstechnica regurgitation and a slashdot post. Oh, no pressrelease <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/news/pressreleasearchive" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntu.com/news/pressreleasearchive</a> [ubuntu.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All they 've done is change a few of the Appearance- &gt; Theme- &gt; Color choices , and added a minimal mauve background.This barely rates a press release , let alone an arstechnica regurgitation and a slashdot post .
Oh , no pressrelease http : //www.ubuntu.com/news/pressreleasearchive [ ubuntu.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All they've done is change a few of the Appearance-&gt;Theme-&gt;Color choices, and added a minimal mauve background.This barely rates a press release, let alone an arstechnica regurgitation and a slashdot post.
Oh, no pressrelease http://www.ubuntu.com/news/pressreleasearchive [ubuntu.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356318</id>
	<title>Re:Windowsthink in the Linux world?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267703640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"While in Windows, you have to install a crack to get other color schemes"</p><p>You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" While in Windows , you have to install a crack to get other color schemes " You clearly have no idea what you 're talking about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"While in Windows, you have to install a crack to get other color schemes"You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355628</id>
	<title>Re:Bubblegum fudge</title>
	<author>erikdalen</author>
	<datestamp>1267694760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect it's not the same people fixing stuff like better/more hardware drivers and drawing new graphical themes. But perhaps you would rather that those with graphical talent didn't get involved at all?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect it 's not the same people fixing stuff like better/more hardware drivers and drawing new graphical themes .
But perhaps you would rather that those with graphical talent did n't get involved at all ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect it's not the same people fixing stuff like better/more hardware drivers and drawing new graphical themes.
But perhaps you would rather that those with graphical talent didn't get involved at all?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353752</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354592</id>
	<title>Re:Window control buttons on the left? Bad.</title>
	<author>MacAnkka</author>
	<datestamp>1267638780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can drag a window in most window managers by pressing alt down and left-button-dragging the window from anywhere in the window. No need to hunt for the title bar.</p><p>Along with alt+right-click-draggin to resize, It's one of the biggest features I miss on a windows (and mac) box.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can drag a window in most window managers by pressing alt down and left-button-dragging the window from anywhere in the window .
No need to hunt for the title bar.Along with alt + right-click-draggin to resize , It 's one of the biggest features I miss on a windows ( and mac ) box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can drag a window in most window managers by pressing alt down and left-button-dragging the window from anywhere in the window.
No need to hunt for the title bar.Along with alt+right-click-draggin to resize, It's one of the biggest features I miss on a windows (and mac) box.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353558</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356994</id>
	<title>Re:Bad window frame button choice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267711860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For me this just about sums up the mindset of the Gnome developers.  All they seem to do is spend forever and a day deciding whether or not to make some utterly trivial, useless and completely arbitary change to some widget, icon or other fluff.</p><p>And god forbid that you might have any sort of sane integrated UI where you can configure something like HDMI audio.  Oh no you need to visit 5 different audio configuration UIs (half of which are not part of a default install, plus half which don't get added to the menus)  And after all this you still have to go and edit config files by hand which you find out about on some random lusers blog which takes you the best part of a month to find.  Finally you throw the box through the window as after all that it still doesn't work.</p><p>Release after release of Gnome comes and goes and nothing substantial ever changes.  It's always the same half baked crap which subtly differs from the last load of crap.  Nothing actually useful is ever added.  Nothing obviously retarded is ever taken away.</p><p>Meanwhile the rest of the world are busying themselves writing actual programs which perform actual tasks that a user might want to achieve.  Gnome developers would rather spend their time worrying about how many pixels wide an icon should be and where it should be placed for this release.</p><p>Gnome is the main reason why Linux sucks as a desktop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For me this just about sums up the mindset of the Gnome developers .
All they seem to do is spend forever and a day deciding whether or not to make some utterly trivial , useless and completely arbitary change to some widget , icon or other fluff.And god forbid that you might have any sort of sane integrated UI where you can configure something like HDMI audio .
Oh no you need to visit 5 different audio configuration UIs ( half of which are not part of a default install , plus half which do n't get added to the menus ) And after all this you still have to go and edit config files by hand which you find out about on some random lusers blog which takes you the best part of a month to find .
Finally you throw the box through the window as after all that it still does n't work.Release after release of Gnome comes and goes and nothing substantial ever changes .
It 's always the same half baked crap which subtly differs from the last load of crap .
Nothing actually useful is ever added .
Nothing obviously retarded is ever taken away.Meanwhile the rest of the world are busying themselves writing actual programs which perform actual tasks that a user might want to achieve .
Gnome developers would rather spend their time worrying about how many pixels wide an icon should be and where it should be placed for this release.Gnome is the main reason why Linux sucks as a desktop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For me this just about sums up the mindset of the Gnome developers.
All they seem to do is spend forever and a day deciding whether or not to make some utterly trivial, useless and completely arbitary change to some widget, icon or other fluff.And god forbid that you might have any sort of sane integrated UI where you can configure something like HDMI audio.
Oh no you need to visit 5 different audio configuration UIs (half of which are not part of a default install, plus half which don't get added to the menus)  And after all this you still have to go and edit config files by hand which you find out about on some random lusers blog which takes you the best part of a month to find.
Finally you throw the box through the window as after all that it still doesn't work.Release after release of Gnome comes and goes and nothing substantial ever changes.
It's always the same half baked crap which subtly differs from the last load of crap.
Nothing actually useful is ever added.
Nothing obviously retarded is ever taken away.Meanwhile the rest of the world are busying themselves writing actual programs which perform actual tasks that a user might want to achieve.
Gnome developers would rather spend their time worrying about how many pixels wide an icon should be and where it should be placed for this release.Gnome is the main reason why Linux sucks as a desktop.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353846</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353554</id>
	<title>Re:Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1267629120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I choked on the same phrase: "a more professional color scheme with purple and orange"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I choked on the same phrase : " a more professional color scheme with purple and orange "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I choked on the same phrase: "a more professional color scheme with purple and orange"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353468</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356382</id>
	<title>Still looks like garbage.</title>
	<author>crhylove</author>
	<datestamp>1267704540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been loudly clammoring for Canonical to ditch the brown for the better part of a decade.  On the forums, on IRC, on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/., on Reddit, on my blog, literally everywhere, I've been pleading and begging for Shuttleworth et al to pull their heads out of their asses and make something that just generally appeals to a whole lot of people.</p><p>Brown doesn't.  It was hideous, and somewhat embarrassing, especially when I tried to convince some people who ONLY WANTED FIREFOX that Ubuntu was a superior OS:</p><p>"But why is it so UGLY?!?"</p><p>"Hold on.... click click click..... Is that better?"</p><p>and of course those clicks are always changing the hideous default theme.</p><p>That said, this new theme is nearly as bad.  Great, getting rid of the brown for.... PURPLE?!?!</p><p>Purple and Orange look god damned atrocious.  Why don't you just make a better OS, and copy the superior look of just about every other OS on the market.</p><p>Points for originality only count if you don't look like shit.  This new design, STILL LOOKS LIKE SHIT.</p><p>Why not just take a cue from Linux Mint?  They actually have a very decent and PLEASING default look that is even original and different compared to Win and OSX.</p><p>While you are fixing that, why not go ahead and install superior default apps by default?</p><p>VLC is much, much better than any other video player for Linux.</p><p>Thunderbird is much better than whatever that crap is you default to.</p><p>Deluge is better than Transmission.</p><p>Audacious is much better than Rhythmbox.</p><p>In fact, other than Open Office, most of the Ubuntu default apps are right crap.</p><p>It wouldn't be hard to make 2010 the year of Linux on the desktop.  All the tools are here now.</p><p>Sadly, all the distros I've seen are still too bulky, too ugly, and have all the worst default apps.  Ubuntu is definitely a good example of that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been loudly clammoring for Canonical to ditch the brown for the better part of a decade .
On the forums , on IRC , on /. , on Reddit , on my blog , literally everywhere , I 've been pleading and begging for Shuttleworth et al to pull their heads out of their asses and make something that just generally appeals to a whole lot of people.Brown does n't .
It was hideous , and somewhat embarrassing , especially when I tried to convince some people who ONLY WANTED FIREFOX that Ubuntu was a superior OS : " But why is it so UGLY ? ! ?
" " Hold on.... click click click..... Is that better ?
" and of course those clicks are always changing the hideous default theme.That said , this new theme is nearly as bad .
Great , getting rid of the brown for... .
PURPLE ? ! ? ! Purple and Orange look god damned atrocious .
Why do n't you just make a better OS , and copy the superior look of just about every other OS on the market.Points for originality only count if you do n't look like shit .
This new design , STILL LOOKS LIKE SHIT.Why not just take a cue from Linux Mint ?
They actually have a very decent and PLEASING default look that is even original and different compared to Win and OSX.While you are fixing that , why not go ahead and install superior default apps by default ? VLC is much , much better than any other video player for Linux.Thunderbird is much better than whatever that crap is you default to.Deluge is better than Transmission.Audacious is much better than Rhythmbox.In fact , other than Open Office , most of the Ubuntu default apps are right crap.It would n't be hard to make 2010 the year of Linux on the desktop .
All the tools are here now.Sadly , all the distros I 've seen are still too bulky , too ugly , and have all the worst default apps .
Ubuntu is definitely a good example of that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been loudly clammoring for Canonical to ditch the brown for the better part of a decade.
On the forums, on IRC, on /., on Reddit, on my blog, literally everywhere, I've been pleading and begging for Shuttleworth et al to pull their heads out of their asses and make something that just generally appeals to a whole lot of people.Brown doesn't.
It was hideous, and somewhat embarrassing, especially when I tried to convince some people who ONLY WANTED FIREFOX that Ubuntu was a superior OS:"But why is it so UGLY?!?
""Hold on.... click click click..... Is that better?
"and of course those clicks are always changing the hideous default theme.That said, this new theme is nearly as bad.
Great, getting rid of the brown for....
PURPLE?!?!Purple and Orange look god damned atrocious.
Why don't you just make a better OS, and copy the superior look of just about every other OS on the market.Points for originality only count if you don't look like shit.
This new design, STILL LOOKS LIKE SHIT.Why not just take a cue from Linux Mint?
They actually have a very decent and PLEASING default look that is even original and different compared to Win and OSX.While you are fixing that, why not go ahead and install superior default apps by default?VLC is much, much better than any other video player for Linux.Thunderbird is much better than whatever that crap is you default to.Deluge is better than Transmission.Audacious is much better than Rhythmbox.In fact, other than Open Office, most of the Ubuntu default apps are right crap.It wouldn't be hard to make 2010 the year of Linux on the desktop.
All the tools are here now.Sadly, all the distros I've seen are still too bulky, too ugly, and have all the worst default apps.
Ubuntu is definitely a good example of that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353824</id>
	<title>Bottom panel?</title>
	<author>piripiri</author>
	<datestamp>1267631040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone noticed that the bottom panel is missing? Is this on purpose for the screenies or will it be replaced by something else, not yet unveiled?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone noticed that the bottom panel is missing ?
Is this on purpose for the screenies or will it be replaced by something else , not yet unveiled ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone noticed that the bottom panel is missing?
Is this on purpose for the screenies or will it be replaced by something else, not yet unveiled?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353540</id>
	<title>Ubuntu is going corporate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ubuntu is going corporate, and they're not shy about saying so, it seems.  Sad.  I'm not just talking about the colors.  The old Ubuntu will be missed, but there will be others.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu is going corporate , and they 're not shy about saying so , it seems .
Sad. I 'm not just talking about the colors .
The old Ubuntu will be missed , but there will be others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu is going corporate, and they're not shy about saying so, it seems.
Sad.  I'm not just talking about the colors.
The old Ubuntu will be missed, but there will be others.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353810</id>
	<title>Re:About Time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267630860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why can't they just put a high res image in the background? That's what most people probably change it to anyway.Nobody wants an ugly purple and orange gradient.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't they just put a high res image in the background ?
That 's what most people probably change it to anyway.Nobody wants an ugly purple and orange gradient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't they just put a high res image in the background?
That's what most people probably change it to anyway.Nobody wants an ugly purple and orange gradient.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353548</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354298</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267635780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In fact, part of the reason I like Xubuntu, is a sober more blueish theme. The moment they release XNR (Xubuntu Netbook Remix), I will probably stay on this side. So far, Ubuntu is in only one of my computers (laptop) becuase I find it nice, and I don't want to run into the hassle of trying to install everything on Xubuntu to make it look alike.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , part of the reason I like Xubuntu , is a sober more blueish theme .
The moment they release XNR ( Xubuntu Netbook Remix ) , I will probably stay on this side .
So far , Ubuntu is in only one of my computers ( laptop ) becuase I find it nice , and I do n't want to run into the hassle of trying to install everything on Xubuntu to make it look alike .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, part of the reason I like Xubuntu, is a sober more blueish theme.
The moment they release XNR (Xubuntu Netbook Remix), I will probably stay on this side.
So far, Ubuntu is in only one of my computers (laptop) becuase I find it nice, and I don't want to run into the hassle of trying to install everything on Xubuntu to make it look alike.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353902</id>
	<title>Re:Dated?</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1267631640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is it behind?<br>You mean in flashy annoying GUIs?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is it behind ? You mean in flashy annoying GUIs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is it behind?You mean in flashy annoying GUIs?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353804</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356794</id>
	<title>Horrible, horrible, horrible font</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267709880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It screams "I am a pretentious prick". The old font was at least friendly looking. But at least the three hand goatse is still easy to identify.</p><p>The old brown colour-scheme was rather horrible, but puke green? That's soooo 1983.</p><p>Light grey is classy and functional if done right (not like the heavy-arsed  Windows 95), add a few sprinkles of colour in the right places and it will make a greater affect than against a coloured background.  Light grey don't collide with the icons and other stuff from whatever forreign (to the colour scheme) software the user choose to install. High contrast black and white is good if you like something more eyecatching (it looks a lot smother on modern hardware, then it did on the old Macs, but it gets old fast). Greys also work well with whatever weird screens the user happens to use. Spend time at making things look smooth and nonobstructive (identify hardware like screen and graphic cards, and provide a more optimal default configuration, just the right amount of  font hinting and antialiasing is more important than any colour scheme to get a great user experience or first impression), instead of wasting time on fragile, horribly convoluted colour schemes.</p><p>I live my life in full colours: I let my eyes feast on every colour that surronds me, I paint, wear, eat, design and sometimes shit in bright and vivid colours. Thats why my computers desktop theme is allmost completely grey, it doesn't interfere with the things I do with the computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It screams " I am a pretentious prick " .
The old font was at least friendly looking .
But at least the three hand goatse is still easy to identify.The old brown colour-scheme was rather horrible , but puke green ?
That 's soooo 1983.Light grey is classy and functional if done right ( not like the heavy-arsed Windows 95 ) , add a few sprinkles of colour in the right places and it will make a greater affect than against a coloured background .
Light grey do n't collide with the icons and other stuff from whatever forreign ( to the colour scheme ) software the user choose to install .
High contrast black and white is good if you like something more eyecatching ( it looks a lot smother on modern hardware , then it did on the old Macs , but it gets old fast ) .
Greys also work well with whatever weird screens the user happens to use .
Spend time at making things look smooth and nonobstructive ( identify hardware like screen and graphic cards , and provide a more optimal default configuration , just the right amount of font hinting and antialiasing is more important than any colour scheme to get a great user experience or first impression ) , instead of wasting time on fragile , horribly convoluted colour schemes.I live my life in full colours : I let my eyes feast on every colour that surronds me , I paint , wear , eat , design and sometimes shit in bright and vivid colours .
Thats why my computers desktop theme is allmost completely grey , it does n't interfere with the things I do with the computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It screams "I am a pretentious prick".
The old font was at least friendly looking.
But at least the three hand goatse is still easy to identify.The old brown colour-scheme was rather horrible, but puke green?
That's soooo 1983.Light grey is classy and functional if done right (not like the heavy-arsed  Windows 95), add a few sprinkles of colour in the right places and it will make a greater affect than against a coloured background.
Light grey don't collide with the icons and other stuff from whatever forreign (to the colour scheme) software the user choose to install.
High contrast black and white is good if you like something more eyecatching (it looks a lot smother on modern hardware, then it did on the old Macs, but it gets old fast).
Greys also work well with whatever weird screens the user happens to use.
Spend time at making things look smooth and nonobstructive (identify hardware like screen and graphic cards, and provide a more optimal default configuration, just the right amount of  font hinting and antialiasing is more important than any colour scheme to get a great user experience or first impression), instead of wasting time on fragile, horribly convoluted colour schemes.I live my life in full colours: I let my eyes feast on every colour that surronds me, I paint, wear, eat, design and sometimes shit in bright and vivid colours.
Thats why my computers desktop theme is allmost completely grey, it doesn't interfere with the things I do with the computer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31358322</id>
	<title>Purple?</title>
	<author>Lurchicus</author>
	<datestamp>1267720560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I for one am glad to see the end of the Poop Smear theme.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I for one am glad to see the end of the Poop Smear theme .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I for one am glad to see the end of the Poop Smear theme.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353564</id>
	<title>Does what it's supposed to</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Personally I don't care about the color change, or the names, or the branding.</p><p>It just has to work, consistently.</p><p>I don't mind getting into the guts to tweak things for myself.</p><p>My Mother, Father, and sister don't know how to use a CLI, and when I've tried to show them, have made it abundantly clear that they don't WANT to know how to use the CLI.</p><p>They don't mind ubuntu, as long as I make give them buttons that do what they want to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I do n't care about the color change , or the names , or the branding.It just has to work , consistently.I do n't mind getting into the guts to tweak things for myself.My Mother , Father , and sister do n't know how to use a CLI , and when I 've tried to show them , have made it abundantly clear that they do n't WANT to know how to use the CLI.They do n't mind ubuntu , as long as I make give them buttons that do what they want to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I don't care about the color change, or the names, or the branding.It just has to work, consistently.I don't mind getting into the guts to tweak things for myself.My Mother, Father, and sister don't know how to use a CLI, and when I've tried to show them, have made it abundantly clear that they don't WANT to know how to use the CLI.They don't mind ubuntu, as long as I make give them buttons that do what they want to do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353890</id>
	<title>Re:Dated?</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1267631520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know.  MacOSX feels like a dated MacOSX to me.  I was shocked when I recently got a Mac, and found how inconsistent the UI was, and simple things like being able to drag a window larger can only be done by grabbing the lower right corner.  I thought I was done with that kind of limitation when I gave up my beloved Amiga.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know .
MacOSX feels like a dated MacOSX to me .
I was shocked when I recently got a Mac , and found how inconsistent the UI was , and simple things like being able to drag a window larger can only be done by grabbing the lower right corner .
I thought I was done with that kind of limitation when I gave up my beloved Amiga .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know.
MacOSX feels like a dated MacOSX to me.
I was shocked when I recently got a Mac, and found how inconsistent the UI was, and simple things like being able to drag a window larger can only be done by grabbing the lower right corner.
I thought I was done with that kind of limitation when I gave up my beloved Amiga.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353804</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357366</id>
	<title>Re:New theme</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267714380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the icon is PURPLE<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the icon is PURPLE ; -D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the icon is PURPLE ;-D</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354000</id>
	<title>I want KDE on Ubuntu by default...</title>
	<author>bogaboga</author>
	<datestamp>1267632360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and here's why:</p><p>1: All issues that prevented this from happening are non issues now.</p><p>2: KDE is much faster now</p><p>3: KDE is easier to develop for</p><p>4: KDE is easier to use for those coming from the Windows environment</p><p>5: KDE is much more flexible</p><p>6: KDE apps are more pleasing to look at</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and here 's why : 1 : All issues that prevented this from happening are non issues now.2 : KDE is much faster now3 : KDE is easier to develop for4 : KDE is easier to use for those coming from the Windows environment5 : KDE is much more flexible6 : KDE apps are more pleasing to look at</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and here's why:1: All issues that prevented this from happening are non issues now.2: KDE is much faster now3: KDE is easier to develop for4: KDE is easier to use for those coming from the Windows environment5: KDE is much more flexible6: KDE apps are more pleasing to look at</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354224</id>
	<title>Errh, a 3rd server anyone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267635060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... because, the alternative link is slashdotted, too!</htmltext>
<tokenext>... because , the alternative link is slashdotted , too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... because, the alternative link is slashdotted, too!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353622</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353754</id>
	<title>Re:About Time</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1267630500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guess what, it's still brown. Just a different shade of it. Oh, but the default wallpaper is now whitish-purple. How exciting!</p><p>And just so it helps your aunt Tilly switch from XP, it also tucks those window close/restore/minimize buttons to the left. "Oh, great, like OS X!", I hear you thinking? Well, no, not really - to prevent further confusion, the buttons are still in the same relative order as on Windows (that is, Close is rightmost, not leftmost). I imagine it is done for the sake of fairness, so that users moving from either platform are in for a pleasant surprise.</p><p>It's truly going to be a top-notch out-of-the-box experience, I'm sure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guess what , it 's still brown .
Just a different shade of it .
Oh , but the default wallpaper is now whitish-purple .
How exciting ! And just so it helps your aunt Tilly switch from XP , it also tucks those window close/restore/minimize buttons to the left .
" Oh , great , like OS X !
" , I hear you thinking ?
Well , no , not really - to prevent further confusion , the buttons are still in the same relative order as on Windows ( that is , Close is rightmost , not leftmost ) .
I imagine it is done for the sake of fairness , so that users moving from either platform are in for a pleasant surprise.It 's truly going to be a top-notch out-of-the-box experience , I 'm sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guess what, it's still brown.
Just a different shade of it.
Oh, but the default wallpaper is now whitish-purple.
How exciting!And just so it helps your aunt Tilly switch from XP, it also tucks those window close/restore/minimize buttons to the left.
"Oh, great, like OS X!
", I hear you thinking?
Well, no, not really - to prevent further confusion, the buttons are still in the same relative order as on Windows (that is, Close is rightmost, not leftmost).
I imagine it is done for the sake of fairness, so that users moving from either platform are in for a pleasant surprise.It's truly going to be a top-notch out-of-the-box experience, I'm sure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353548</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355002</id>
	<title>Re:Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>mrmeval</author>
	<datestamp>1267643640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was bovine and now it's big bird. It now matches it's dumbed down to pablum functionality with emacs prophet hacks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was bovine and now it 's big bird .
It now matches it 's dumbed down to pablum functionality with emacs prophet hacks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was bovine and now it's big bird.
It now matches it's dumbed down to pablum functionality with emacs prophet hacks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353468</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355860</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>kiddygrinder</author>
	<datestamp>1267697760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I *love* when the close button is right in the corner, it makes it ridiculously easy to hit the close button when you want to.  when maximising/minimising i just double click the title bar, which is big and easy to hit, and it works on linux and windows so no re-learning</htmltext>
<tokenext>I * love * when the close button is right in the corner , it makes it ridiculously easy to hit the close button when you want to .
when maximising/minimising i just double click the title bar , which is big and easy to hit , and it works on linux and windows so no re-learning</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I *love* when the close button is right in the corner, it makes it ridiculously easy to hit the close button when you want to.
when maximising/minimising i just double click the title bar, which is big and easy to hit, and it works on linux and windows so no re-learning</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354324</id>
	<title>much better</title>
	<author>ffflala</author>
	<datestamp>1267635960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that the new color scheme looks much better than any previous default. The brown schemes have always been so glaring; they were practically orange.</p><p>I use keyboard shortcuts as much as possible, and never use any windows buttons enough to develop a preference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that the new color scheme looks much better than any previous default .
The brown schemes have always been so glaring ; they were practically orange.I use keyboard shortcuts as much as possible , and never use any windows buttons enough to develop a preference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that the new color scheme looks much better than any previous default.
The brown schemes have always been so glaring; they were practically orange.I use keyboard shortcuts as much as possible, and never use any windows buttons enough to develop a preference.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354988</id>
	<title>Yet another proprietary Linux vendor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267643520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who cares about some <i>ubuntu</i>? I don't and you shouldn't either.</p><p>Be a man, use <a href="http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html" title="gnu.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html</a> [gnu.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares about some ubuntu ?
I do n't and you should n't either.Be a man , use http : //www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html [ gnu.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares about some ubuntu?
I don't and you shouldn't either.Be a man, use http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html [gnu.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357386</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267714500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Haha, your opinions are awful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Haha , your opinions are awful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haha, your opinions are awful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31368030</id>
	<title>ofcourse, let's have a meeting</title>
	<author>shnull</author>
	<datestamp>1267731780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>to talk about how many meetings we will have to decide on when the meeting will be to decide what color purple we would maybe like to use<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... if that's ofcourse a politically correct and religiously neutral colour<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...

the peoples front of judea ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>to talk about how many meetings we will have to decide on when the meeting will be to decide what color purple we would maybe like to use ... if that 's ofcourse a politically correct and religiously neutral colour .. . the peoples front of judea ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to talk about how many meetings we will have to decide on when the meeting will be to decide what color purple we would maybe like to use ... if that's ofcourse a politically correct and religiously neutral colour ...

the peoples front of judea ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353506</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Ubuntu</title>
	<author>SilverHatHacker</author>
	<datestamp>1267628880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>As sentimental as that is, for the last five years I've heard nothing but complaints about the color scheme. No one accepts others for who they are unless they already like who they are.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As sentimental as that is , for the last five years I 've heard nothing but complaints about the color scheme .
No one accepts others for who they are unless they already like who they are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As sentimental as that is, for the last five years I've heard nothing but complaints about the color scheme.
No one accepts others for who they are unless they already like who they are.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353456</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354974</id>
	<title>There are things more important than the colors</title>
	<author>Cochonou</author>
	<datestamp>1267643220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are actually things much more important for this Linux distribution than a new color scheme. The most prevalent thing would be a new soft porn wallpaper, like in the initial versions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are actually things much more important for this Linux distribution than a new color scheme .
The most prevalent thing would be a new soft porn wallpaper , like in the initial versions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are actually things much more important for this Linux distribution than a new color scheme.
The most prevalent thing would be a new soft porn wallpaper, like in the initial versions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355186</id>
	<title>Wait a minute. Mr Shuttleworth</title>
	<author>qrwe</author>
	<datestamp>1267646040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"When Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth gave his memorable <b>keynote</b> at OSCON in 2008, he articulated a vision of building a Linux desktop with industry-leading design and unbeatable usability. He promised that Canonical would invest in a broad effort to make Linux beautiful."
<br>
Keynote? Does this imply this guy is promoting an operating system he still doesn't belive in?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" When Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth gave his memorable keynote at OSCON in 2008 , he articulated a vision of building a Linux desktop with industry-leading design and unbeatable usability .
He promised that Canonical would invest in a broad effort to make Linux beautiful .
" Keynote ?
Does this imply this guy is promoting an operating system he still does n't belive in ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"When Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth gave his memorable keynote at OSCON in 2008, he articulated a vision of building a Linux desktop with industry-leading design and unbeatable usability.
He promised that Canonical would invest in a broad effort to make Linux beautiful.
"

Keynote?
Does this imply this guy is promoting an operating system he still doesn't belive in?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353864</id>
	<title>Re:nice to see</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267631220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>First off... first post!</p></div></blockquote><p>Uh huh, you keep trying, Sparky - everyone needs a goal in life.</p><blockquote><div><p>slap some eye-candy onto you GUI</p></div></blockquote><p>You go slap that eye-candy onto you [sic] GUI!</p><blockquote><div><p>People are very visual weather</p></div></blockquote><p>Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot - Over?</p><p>I reviewed your posting history, and am quite confident when I say this: You're an idiot, please stop posting here. You're embarrassing yourself and annoying the rest of us.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>First off... first post ! Uh huh , you keep trying , Sparky - everyone needs a goal in life.slap some eye-candy onto you GUIYou go slap that eye-candy onto you [ sic ] GUI ! People are very visual weatherWhiskey , Tango , Foxtrot - Over ? I reviewed your posting history , and am quite confident when I say this : You 're an idiot , please stop posting here .
You 're embarrassing yourself and annoying the rest of us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First off... first post!Uh huh, you keep trying, Sparky - everyone needs a goal in life.slap some eye-candy onto you GUIYou go slap that eye-candy onto you [sic] GUI!People are very visual weatherWhiskey, Tango, Foxtrot - Over?I reviewed your posting history, and am quite confident when I say this: You're an idiot, please stop posting here.
You're embarrassing yourself and annoying the rest of us.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353706</id>
	<title>Nooo go backkkk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267630140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe i'm the odd one but I actually liked the old theme xD. It's one of the few reasons I ever booted into Linux rather than XP. Found the soft brown, white/grey, and orange pretty...relaxing somehow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe i 'm the odd one but I actually liked the old theme xD .
It 's one of the few reasons I ever booted into Linux rather than XP .
Found the soft brown , white/grey , and orange pretty...relaxing somehow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe i'm the odd one but I actually liked the old theme xD.
It's one of the few reasons I ever booted into Linux rather than XP.
Found the soft brown, white/grey, and orange pretty...relaxing somehow.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354588</id>
	<title>Re:Still brown...</title>
	<author>Jurily</author>
	<datestamp>1267638720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to agree. It still looks like crap, only in purple now.</p><p>Ubuntu really needs some creative people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree .
It still looks like crap , only in purple now.Ubuntu really needs some creative people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree.
It still looks like crap, only in purple now.Ubuntu really needs some creative people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353452</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354640</id>
	<title>Re:Bubblegum fudge</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1267639500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I wish they'd stay focused on usability and 'ergonomic' issues, and not waste time on colors and wallpapers and other bubblegum.<br>Too much time wasted on fluff that doesn't matter much.</i> </p><p>Design and color are very much a part of usability and "ergonomics." To say nothing of marketing.</p><p>If the Win 7 netbook's light blue pastels makes the sale at WalMart and Ubuntu's muddy brown doesn't, Canonical has a problem.</p><p>The desktop at work is likely to be locked down tight whatever the operating system. The default choices had better be the right choices because everyone will have to live with them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish they 'd stay focused on usability and 'ergonomic ' issues , and not waste time on colors and wallpapers and other bubblegum.Too much time wasted on fluff that does n't matter much .
Design and color are very much a part of usability and " ergonomics .
" To say nothing of marketing.If the Win 7 netbook 's light blue pastels makes the sale at WalMart and Ubuntu 's muddy brown does n't , Canonical has a problem.The desktop at work is likely to be locked down tight whatever the operating system .
The default choices had better be the right choices because everyone will have to live with them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish they'd stay focused on usability and 'ergonomic' issues, and not waste time on colors and wallpapers and other bubblegum.Too much time wasted on fluff that doesn't matter much.
Design and color are very much a part of usability and "ergonomics.
" To say nothing of marketing.If the Win 7 netbook's light blue pastels makes the sale at WalMart and Ubuntu's muddy brown doesn't, Canonical has a problem.The desktop at work is likely to be locked down tight whatever the operating system.
The default choices had better be the right choices because everyone will have to live with them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353752</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31384144</id>
	<title>I'm right handed</title>
	<author>prozaker</author>
	<datestamp>1267875180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>fixes the colors, but puts the window controls in the wrong side.
<br>
can you move the controls?
<br> i mean on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. i hate the preview | options | cancel on the left side...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</htmltext>
<tokenext>fixes the colors , but puts the window controls in the wrong side .
can you move the controls ?
i mean on / .
i hate the preview | options | cancel on the left side... : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fixes the colors, but puts the window controls in the wrong side.
can you move the controls?
i mean on /.
i hate the preview | options | cancel on the left side... :(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353592</id>
	<title>Excuse me?</title>
	<author>MarkusQ</author>
	<datestamp>1267629360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> a more professional color scheme with purple and orange.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Because brown seems so frivolous compared to a pair of secondary colours, and the other combinations were already taken by Barney, the Irish rebels, and <a href="http://www.adrants.com/images/orange\_green.jpg" title="adrants.com">these folks</a> [adrants.com]?

</p><p>I suppose that's why industries that care about their professional image never use brown for anything.

</p><p>--MarkusQ</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>a more professional color scheme with purple and orange .
Because brown seems so frivolous compared to a pair of secondary colours , and the other combinations were already taken by Barney , the Irish rebels , and these folks [ adrants.com ] ?
I suppose that 's why industries that care about their professional image never use brown for anything .
--MarkusQ</tokentext>
<sentencetext> a more professional color scheme with purple and orange.
Because brown seems so frivolous compared to a pair of secondary colours, and the other combinations were already taken by Barney, the Irish rebels, and these folks [adrants.com]?
I suppose that's why industries that care about their professional image never use brown for anything.
--MarkusQ
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357290</id>
	<title>Re:New theme</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267713900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you any idea what much of the software Ubuntu is actually sourced from?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you any idea what much of the software Ubuntu is actually sourced from ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you any idea what much of the software Ubuntu is actually sourced from?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354598</id>
	<title>mmmm.. bacon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267638840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>'nuff said</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>'nuff said</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'nuff said</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353716</id>
	<title>Only slightly concerned</title>
	<author>gaelfx</author>
	<datestamp>1267630260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After all, it's not all that hard to get new themes for GTK or anything, but still, Purple and Orange? </p><p>Two things are clear:</p><p>1. Heavy drug use is now too commonplace at Canonical.</p><p>2. The drugs they are currently using last long enough for them to make a press release and a couple of websites demonstrating the effects of said drugs.</p><p>

The only question that remains is what are they smoking and where can I get some?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After all , it 's not all that hard to get new themes for GTK or anything , but still , Purple and Orange ?
Two things are clear : 1 .
Heavy drug use is now too commonplace at Canonical.2 .
The drugs they are currently using last long enough for them to make a press release and a couple of websites demonstrating the effects of said drugs .
The only question that remains is what are they smoking and where can I get some ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all, it's not all that hard to get new themes for GTK or anything, but still, Purple and Orange?
Two things are clear:1.
Heavy drug use is now too commonplace at Canonical.2.
The drugs they are currently using last long enough for them to make a press release and a couple of websites demonstrating the effects of said drugs.
The only question that remains is what are they smoking and where can I get some?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354510</id>
	<title>What can be more professional</title>
	<author>Stan92057</author>
	<datestamp>1267638000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What can be more professional then a coffee stain? i mean really.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>What can be more professional then a coffee stain ?
i mean really .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What can be more professional then a coffee stain?
i mean really.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353816</id>
	<title>Alternative Schemes</title>
	<author>Prototerm</author>
	<datestamp>1267630980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As long as it's not blue and grey. God, I really *hate* desktops that are in shades of blue. It's cold and depressing. Not that the new orange and purple is much better. But at least, you can change it to anything you want.</p><p>I use a custom scheme that most of my friends find awful (of course *they* run some variant of Windows so the feeling is mutual). While I dislike the traditional Ubuntu brown and orange, I do like a brown palette. So, here's my preferred combination:</p><p>Base Theme: Clearlooks<br>Icons: ubuntu-sunrise<br>Wallpaper: Custom dark woodgrain<br>"Selected Items": medium brown (#752A2A), or for those who dislike brown, dark green (#005830) works<br>"Windows": medium tan (#D8C0A0)<br>"Input boxes": off white (#F0E0D0) to reduce eyestrain in terminals and text editors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as it 's not blue and grey .
God , I really * hate * desktops that are in shades of blue .
It 's cold and depressing .
Not that the new orange and purple is much better .
But at least , you can change it to anything you want.I use a custom scheme that most of my friends find awful ( of course * they * run some variant of Windows so the feeling is mutual ) .
While I dislike the traditional Ubuntu brown and orange , I do like a brown palette .
So , here 's my preferred combination : Base Theme : ClearlooksIcons : ubuntu-sunriseWallpaper : Custom dark woodgrain " Selected Items " : medium brown ( # 752A2A ) , or for those who dislike brown , dark green ( # 005830 ) works " Windows " : medium tan ( # D8C0A0 ) " Input boxes " : off white ( # F0E0D0 ) to reduce eyestrain in terminals and text editors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as it's not blue and grey.
God, I really *hate* desktops that are in shades of blue.
It's cold and depressing.
Not that the new orange and purple is much better.
But at least, you can change it to anything you want.I use a custom scheme that most of my friends find awful (of course *they* run some variant of Windows so the feeling is mutual).
While I dislike the traditional Ubuntu brown and orange, I do like a brown palette.
So, here's my preferred combination:Base Theme: ClearlooksIcons: ubuntu-sunriseWallpaper: Custom dark woodgrain"Selected Items": medium brown (#752A2A), or for those who dislike brown, dark green (#005830) works"Windows": medium tan (#D8C0A0)"Input boxes": off white (#F0E0D0) to reduce eyestrain in terminals and text editors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353872</id>
	<title>Purple and orange?</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1267631400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Brown and orange at least look good together, like gold or wheat (they finally moved away from baby poop brown and used more orange in the last few releases).  Purple and orange look like domestic violence.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Brown and orange at least look good together , like gold or wheat ( they finally moved away from baby poop brown and used more orange in the last few releases ) .
Purple and orange look like domestic violence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Brown and orange at least look good together, like gold or wheat (they finally moved away from baby poop brown and used more orange in the last few releases).
Purple and orange look like domestic violence.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354618</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>DMUTPeregrine</author>
	<datestamp>1267639140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You contradict yourself. The most destructive operation SHOULD be far from the most common operation. Putting the "close window" button on the left with the menus is asking for misclicks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You contradict yourself .
The most destructive operation SHOULD be far from the most common operation .
Putting the " close window " button on the left with the menus is asking for misclicks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You contradict yourself.
The most destructive operation SHOULD be far from the most common operation.
Putting the "close window" button on the left with the menus is asking for misclicks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353644</id>
	<title>Window control buttons are on the wrong side</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Window control buttons are on the wrong side, if I wanted a Mac I would get one. Stop changing crap, clearlooks human or just clearlooks would have been fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Window control buttons are on the wrong side , if I wanted a Mac I would get one .
Stop changing crap , clearlooks human or just clearlooks would have been fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Window control buttons are on the wrong side, if I wanted a Mac I would get one.
Stop changing crap, clearlooks human or just clearlooks would have been fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353558</id>
	<title>Window control buttons on the left? Bad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't like that the Window control buttons (maximize, close, etc.) are moved to the top left of the window, instead of the top right where they used to be.</p><p>1. I'm used to them being on the right in both current Ubuntu and Windows. I know Mac has them on the left, but I never liked that.<br>2. If the window is partially dragged off-screen, I can click either the X on the right side, or File -&gt; Close on the left side. With both being on one side, I need to  or drag the window back (if it works, which often doesn't if its dragged so much to the extreme that it's hard to grab the title bar with your mouse).</p><p>I know the problem usually has trivial workarounds (such as a keyboard shortcut to close), but meh. Why not leave it the way it worked before.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't like that the Window control buttons ( maximize , close , etc .
) are moved to the top left of the window , instead of the top right where they used to be.1 .
I 'm used to them being on the right in both current Ubuntu and Windows .
I know Mac has them on the left , but I never liked that.2 .
If the window is partially dragged off-screen , I can click either the X on the right side , or File - &gt; Close on the left side .
With both being on one side , I need to or drag the window back ( if it works , which often does n't if its dragged so much to the extreme that it 's hard to grab the title bar with your mouse ) .I know the problem usually has trivial workarounds ( such as a keyboard shortcut to close ) , but meh .
Why not leave it the way it worked before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't like that the Window control buttons (maximize, close, etc.
) are moved to the top left of the window, instead of the top right where they used to be.1.
I'm used to them being on the right in both current Ubuntu and Windows.
I know Mac has them on the left, but I never liked that.2.
If the window is partially dragged off-screen, I can click either the X on the right side, or File -&gt; Close on the left side.
With both being on one side, I need to  or drag the window back (if it works, which often doesn't if its dragged so much to the extreme that it's hard to grab the title bar with your mouse).I know the problem usually has trivial workarounds (such as a keyboard shortcut to close), but meh.
Why not leave it the way it worked before.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355190</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267646100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i used Dust for a while now. Love it: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+Dust?content=88790<br>It's probably quite similar to the new look (but it has the window controls in the right place)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i used Dust for a while now .
Love it : http : //gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu + Dust ? content = 88790It 's probably quite similar to the new look ( but it has the window controls in the right place )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i used Dust for a while now.
Love it: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+Dust?content=88790It's probably quite similar to the new look (but it has the window controls in the right place)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357086</id>
	<title>how convenient</title>
	<author>viridari</author>
	<datestamp>1267712520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Adoption of Ubuntu is increasing inside of <a href="http://www.degatagamc.com/" title="degatagamc.com">my motorcycle club</a> [degatagamc.com], who's colors are <b>purple and orange</b>. In fact I'm heading out tonight to get two of our members set up on their new <a href="http://www.system76.com/" title="system76.com">System76</a> [system76.com] desktop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Adoption of Ubuntu is increasing inside of my motorcycle club [ degatagamc.com ] , who 's colors are purple and orange .
In fact I 'm heading out tonight to get two of our members set up on their new System76 [ system76.com ] desktop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Adoption of Ubuntu is increasing inside of my motorcycle club [degatagamc.com], who's colors are purple and orange.
In fact I'm heading out tonight to get two of our members set up on their new System76 [system76.com] desktop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353722</id>
	<title>Re:Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>tom\_fpsb</author>
	<datestamp>1267630320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I studied colour associations at design school we learned that purple was associated with regality, and orange with movement and life. I would associate "professionalism" with black, grey and red tones. This looks influenced by OS X. I'm a bit disappointed they didn't decide to improve upon Human which was quite unique.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I studied colour associations at design school we learned that purple was associated with regality , and orange with movement and life .
I would associate " professionalism " with black , grey and red tones .
This looks influenced by OS X. I 'm a bit disappointed they did n't decide to improve upon Human which was quite unique .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I studied colour associations at design school we learned that purple was associated with regality, and orange with movement and life.
I would associate "professionalism" with black, grey and red tones.
This looks influenced by OS X. I'm a bit disappointed they didn't decide to improve upon Human which was quite unique.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353468</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31359478</id>
	<title>Purple and Orange and Mozart</title>
	<author>the eric conspiracy</author>
	<datestamp>1267725660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just add some startup music from Mozart and you will truly drive everyone away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just add some startup music from Mozart and you will truly drive everyone away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just add some startup music from Mozart and you will truly drive everyone away.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357358</id>
	<title>I'd be a lot happier if....</title>
	<author>oldmeddler</author>
	<datestamp>1267714380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...Ubuntu would fix what they broke in 8.1 and 9.xx. Skype hasn't worked since 8.04 and the new Grub is NOT an improvement. Lots of other minor stuff, but this is not the place to discuss it. I wish they would stop the every 6 months release and use that time make the next release work properly. The default color scheme is so far down on the list of needed improvements that it's only "value" is that it pisses me off that Canonical wasted resources on it.

I've been using Linux for more than 10 years and Ubuntu since 6.04, but am seriously considering switching.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...Ubuntu would fix what they broke in 8.1 and 9.xx .
Skype has n't worked since 8.04 and the new Grub is NOT an improvement .
Lots of other minor stuff , but this is not the place to discuss it .
I wish they would stop the every 6 months release and use that time make the next release work properly .
The default color scheme is so far down on the list of needed improvements that it 's only " value " is that it pisses me off that Canonical wasted resources on it .
I 've been using Linux for more than 10 years and Ubuntu since 6.04 , but am seriously considering switching .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Ubuntu would fix what they broke in 8.1 and 9.xx.
Skype hasn't worked since 8.04 and the new Grub is NOT an improvement.
Lots of other minor stuff, but this is not the place to discuss it.
I wish they would stop the every 6 months release and use that time make the next release work properly.
The default color scheme is so far down on the list of needed improvements that it's only "value" is that it pisses me off that Canonical wasted resources on it.
I've been using Linux for more than 10 years and Ubuntu since 6.04, but am seriously considering switching.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356134</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267701060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>me too. Clearlooks is elegant, smooth, and non-distracting. It is just the theme I end using, regards of trying other more candy such dust (interesting, but a bit too-distracting for my taste).</p><p>KDE's Oxygen is also elegant, smooth and non-distrating (despite of having plenty of effects). </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>me too .
Clearlooks is elegant , smooth , and non-distracting .
It is just the theme I end using , regards of trying other more candy such dust ( interesting , but a bit too-distracting for my taste ) .KDE 's Oxygen is also elegant , smooth and non-distrating ( despite of having plenty of effects ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>me too.
Clearlooks is elegant, smooth, and non-distracting.
It is just the theme I end using, regards of trying other more candy such dust (interesting, but a bit too-distracting for my taste).KDE's Oxygen is also elegant, smooth and non-distrating (despite of having plenty of effects). </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353568</id>
	<title>Re:Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>FallinWithStyle</author>
	<datestamp>1267629180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree. The biggest problem I have with the default theme in the pictures, though, is the movement of the window-control buttons from right to left.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
The biggest problem I have with the default theme in the pictures , though , is the movement of the window-control buttons from right to left .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
The biggest problem I have with the default theme in the pictures, though, is the movement of the window-control buttons from right to left.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353468</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354362</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, what?</title>
	<author>Brandybuck</author>
	<datestamp>1267636440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a complementary color scheme. It's hard to get right, but it's very common. Although purple and orange aren't complementary, bluish-purple and yellowish-orange are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a complementary color scheme .
It 's hard to get right , but it 's very common .
Although purple and orange are n't complementary , bluish-purple and yellowish-orange are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a complementary color scheme.
It's hard to get right, but it's very common.
Although purple and orange aren't complementary, bluish-purple and yellowish-orange are.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353982</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, what?</title>
	<author>DigiShaman</author>
	<datestamp>1267632240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"Purple and orange" is a professional color scheme?</p></div></blockquote><p>It is for the Phoenix Suns basketball team.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Purple and orange " is a professional color scheme ? It is for the Phoenix Suns basketball team .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Purple and orange" is a professional color scheme?It is for the Phoenix Suns basketball team.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356058</id>
	<title>Change for the sake of change</title>
	<author>InfiniteLoopCounter</author>
	<datestamp>1267699980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This very different new theme and the window button changes don't seem to serve any purpose other than to make new visual changes for a new release.</p><p>Ubuntu might do better if they kept a better measure of consistency in the look-and-feel and user interface between versions.</p><p>For example, the shut down and log out buttons were separated in 9.10 and there is no longer any good way to have a single button that can simply shut down, standby, hibernate, and log out. There was no real need to change this and not provide a way of doing what was possible before.</p><p>Also, the volume control was merged into the notification area (to improve usability no doubt). The problem with this for me is when I watch a fullscreen something on my primary monitor, I cannot simply place a volume control applet on the other and scroll up and down to change the volume like I could before without making the primary notification area sit on the second monitor.</p><p>Change for the sake of change just doesn't seem like the way to promote a good Operating System. There will always be detractors, but Ubuntu should aim to have the level of consistency it needs for people to identify it (over a period of time longer than 6 months) as a particular brand.</p><p>Additionally, I personally would hate to see the old human theme disappear over time because a newer Macintosh-like theme takes some artist's fancy. I think the old human theme really captured the essence of the term "Ubuntu" (and the icons looked easier to associate with the tasks and didn't take so much space).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This very different new theme and the window button changes do n't seem to serve any purpose other than to make new visual changes for a new release.Ubuntu might do better if they kept a better measure of consistency in the look-and-feel and user interface between versions.For example , the shut down and log out buttons were separated in 9.10 and there is no longer any good way to have a single button that can simply shut down , standby , hibernate , and log out .
There was no real need to change this and not provide a way of doing what was possible before.Also , the volume control was merged into the notification area ( to improve usability no doubt ) .
The problem with this for me is when I watch a fullscreen something on my primary monitor , I can not simply place a volume control applet on the other and scroll up and down to change the volume like I could before without making the primary notification area sit on the second monitor.Change for the sake of change just does n't seem like the way to promote a good Operating System .
There will always be detractors , but Ubuntu should aim to have the level of consistency it needs for people to identify it ( over a period of time longer than 6 months ) as a particular brand.Additionally , I personally would hate to see the old human theme disappear over time because a newer Macintosh-like theme takes some artist 's fancy .
I think the old human theme really captured the essence of the term " Ubuntu " ( and the icons looked easier to associate with the tasks and did n't take so much space ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This very different new theme and the window button changes don't seem to serve any purpose other than to make new visual changes for a new release.Ubuntu might do better if they kept a better measure of consistency in the look-and-feel and user interface between versions.For example, the shut down and log out buttons were separated in 9.10 and there is no longer any good way to have a single button that can simply shut down, standby, hibernate, and log out.
There was no real need to change this and not provide a way of doing what was possible before.Also, the volume control was merged into the notification area (to improve usability no doubt).
The problem with this for me is when I watch a fullscreen something on my primary monitor, I cannot simply place a volume control applet on the other and scroll up and down to change the volume like I could before without making the primary notification area sit on the second monitor.Change for the sake of change just doesn't seem like the way to promote a good Operating System.
There will always be detractors, but Ubuntu should aim to have the level of consistency it needs for people to identify it (over a period of time longer than 6 months) as a particular brand.Additionally, I personally would hate to see the old human theme disappear over time because a newer Macintosh-like theme takes some artist's fancy.
I think the old human theme really captured the essence of the term "Ubuntu" (and the icons looked easier to associate with the tasks and didn't take so much space).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354556</id>
	<title>"a more professional color scheme with purple and</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267638480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"a more professional color scheme with purple and orange."</p><p>Very probably the only time in the history of the English language that that phrase has been used.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" a more professional color scheme with purple and orange .
" Very probably the only time in the history of the English language that that phrase has been used .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"a more professional color scheme with purple and orange.
"Very probably the only time in the history of the English language that that phrase has been used.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354464</id>
	<title>Do colors matter this much?</title>
	<author>tecnico.hitos</author>
	<datestamp>1267637580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm surprised by the amount of slashdotters complaining about the previous color scheme of Ubuntu.</p><p>Putting aside that it is actually easy to change theme, orange and brown seemed to me a very consistent choice of colors. It never bothered me, I can't see why it is so unpleasant.</p><p>I don't see people complaining about how blue is Windows, or how grey is OSX...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm surprised by the amount of slashdotters complaining about the previous color scheme of Ubuntu.Putting aside that it is actually easy to change theme , orange and brown seemed to me a very consistent choice of colors .
It never bothered me , I ca n't see why it is so unpleasant.I do n't see people complaining about how blue is Windows , or how grey is OSX.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm surprised by the amount of slashdotters complaining about the previous color scheme of Ubuntu.Putting aside that it is actually easy to change theme, orange and brown seemed to me a very consistent choice of colors.
It never bothered me, I can't see why it is so unpleasant.I don't see people complaining about how blue is Windows, or how grey is OSX...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356474</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, what?</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1267705500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For pale blue, yellow / gold or a deeper blue. Navy is best. Some folks get away with a deep red, but it's hit and miss.<br>Darker blue shirts are the same, just without the dark blue tie obviously.<br> <br>Handy tip: If you have a hangover, put on a shirt and tie with patterns that run perpendicular to each other. They make you look like a magic-eye picture and people will leave you alone as they can't stand to look at the shirt/tie combo, even in peripheral vision.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For pale blue , yellow / gold or a deeper blue .
Navy is best .
Some folks get away with a deep red , but it 's hit and miss.Darker blue shirts are the same , just without the dark blue tie obviously .
Handy tip : If you have a hangover , put on a shirt and tie with patterns that run perpendicular to each other .
They make you look like a magic-eye picture and people will leave you alone as they ca n't stand to look at the shirt/tie combo , even in peripheral vision .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For pale blue, yellow / gold or a deeper blue.
Navy is best.
Some folks get away with a deep red, but it's hit and miss.Darker blue shirts are the same, just without the dark blue tie obviously.
Handy tip: If you have a hangover, put on a shirt and tie with patterns that run perpendicular to each other.
They make you look like a magic-eye picture and people will leave you alone as they can't stand to look at the shirt/tie combo, even in peripheral vision.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355952</id>
	<title>Lots of idiot-posts for this article ...</title>
	<author>Qbertino</author>
	<datestamp>1267698840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look people, I don't know what problems you have, but there are a few things I can say for sure:</p><p>- Since 1985 I've used many different operating systems and currently Ubuntu is top-of-the-line for end users, along with Mac OS X. The latter only working hassle-free with the hardware that was built for it (!)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and coming with a bucket full of Apple DRM and multimedia lock-in.</p><p>- Canonical has gone out of it's way to raise the bar for everyday end-user Linux *and* they are giving it away for free. Until Ubuntu the only distro with zero-fuss hardware detection was Knoppix and that looked like shit right of the bat.</p><p>- Ubuntu is so good it managed to lead me to peace with Gnome - which I allways thought as notably lacking (i.e. breathtakingly shitty) compared with the non-x.0 releases of KDE. And I still do. Yet Ubuntu original delivers it so well I couldn't be bothered to switch to KDE - and I'm a guy who makes a living developing on Linux. That's how good Ubuntu is.</p><p>- If you don't like the brown/orange or new purple/brown/orange theme, then change it. It takes 10 seconds. And you've got like 10 well designed themes to chose from off the bat. Try that with Windows or OS X. And besides: I and many others are grateful for a consistant visual style that - for once - isn't just a generic variant of the blue OS X<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.0 rippoff we've been served for the past decade from every vendor on the planet.</p><p>- They've now perfected their style and changed the logo. What's the fuss about it? And aside from the fact that I was getting used to the rounded helvetica, the logo actually as gotten better. *AND* they give the reason for the changes right there in their blog! Dig it folks: They have payed professional(!!) designers who derived and improved the new Ubuntu theme for them. Show me another client level FOSS project that has this. Or, for that matter, even a professional distro that does it this well.</p><p>Bottom line:<br>All you ranters and whiners: Please shut the f*ck up and for f*ck sake, be gratefull for once. Thank you.</p><p>My 2 cents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look people , I do n't know what problems you have , but there are a few things I can say for sure : - Since 1985 I 've used many different operating systems and currently Ubuntu is top-of-the-line for end users , along with Mac OS X. The latter only working hassle-free with the hardware that was built for it ( !
) ... and coming with a bucket full of Apple DRM and multimedia lock-in.- Canonical has gone out of it 's way to raise the bar for everyday end-user Linux * and * they are giving it away for free .
Until Ubuntu the only distro with zero-fuss hardware detection was Knoppix and that looked like shit right of the bat.- Ubuntu is so good it managed to lead me to peace with Gnome - which I allways thought as notably lacking ( i.e .
breathtakingly shitty ) compared with the non-x.0 releases of KDE .
And I still do .
Yet Ubuntu original delivers it so well I could n't be bothered to switch to KDE - and I 'm a guy who makes a living developing on Linux .
That 's how good Ubuntu is.- If you do n't like the brown/orange or new purple/brown/orange theme , then change it .
It takes 10 seconds .
And you 've got like 10 well designed themes to chose from off the bat .
Try that with Windows or OS X. And besides : I and many others are grateful for a consistant visual style that - for once - is n't just a generic variant of the blue OS X .0 rippoff we 've been served for the past decade from every vendor on the planet.- They 've now perfected their style and changed the logo .
What 's the fuss about it ?
And aside from the fact that I was getting used to the rounded helvetica , the logo actually as gotten better .
* AND * they give the reason for the changes right there in their blog !
Dig it folks : They have payed professional ( ! !
) designers who derived and improved the new Ubuntu theme for them .
Show me another client level FOSS project that has this .
Or , for that matter , even a professional distro that does it this well.Bottom line : All you ranters and whiners : Please shut the f * ck up and for f * ck sake , be gratefull for once .
Thank you.My 2 cents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look people, I don't know what problems you have, but there are a few things I can say for sure:- Since 1985 I've used many different operating systems and currently Ubuntu is top-of-the-line for end users, along with Mac OS X. The latter only working hassle-free with the hardware that was built for it (!
) ... and coming with a bucket full of Apple DRM and multimedia lock-in.- Canonical has gone out of it's way to raise the bar for everyday end-user Linux *and* they are giving it away for free.
Until Ubuntu the only distro with zero-fuss hardware detection was Knoppix and that looked like shit right of the bat.- Ubuntu is so good it managed to lead me to peace with Gnome - which I allways thought as notably lacking (i.e.
breathtakingly shitty) compared with the non-x.0 releases of KDE.
And I still do.
Yet Ubuntu original delivers it so well I couldn't be bothered to switch to KDE - and I'm a guy who makes a living developing on Linux.
That's how good Ubuntu is.- If you don't like the brown/orange or new purple/brown/orange theme, then change it.
It takes 10 seconds.
And you've got like 10 well designed themes to chose from off the bat.
Try that with Windows or OS X. And besides: I and many others are grateful for a consistant visual style that - for once - isn't just a generic variant of the blue OS X .0 rippoff we've been served for the past decade from every vendor on the planet.- They've now perfected their style and changed the logo.
What's the fuss about it?
And aside from the fact that I was getting used to the rounded helvetica, the logo actually as gotten better.
*AND* they give the reason for the changes right there in their blog!
Dig it folks: They have payed professional(!!
) designers who derived and improved the new Ubuntu theme for them.
Show me another client level FOSS project that has this.
Or, for that matter, even a professional distro that does it this well.Bottom line:All you ranters and whiners: Please shut the f*ck up and for f*ck sake, be gratefull for once.
Thank you.My 2 cents.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31360616</id>
	<title>Still...</title>
	<author>bjoast</author>
	<datestamp>1267730760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... looks unprofessional.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... looks unprofessional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... looks unprofessional.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31358278</id>
	<title>whats up with the background</title>
	<author>anonymousNR</author>
	<datestamp>1267720260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Leopard has been having its purplish pink background as default, I saw nobody complain about that.
I think if some thing comes out of opensource folks at slashdot evaluate it too critically.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Leopard has been having its purplish pink background as default , I saw nobody complain about that .
I think if some thing comes out of opensource folks at slashdot evaluate it too critically .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Leopard has been having its purplish pink background as default, I saw nobody complain about that.
I think if some thing comes out of opensource folks at slashdot evaluate it too critically.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353752</id>
	<title>Bubblegum fudge</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1267630500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish they'd stay focused on usability and 'ergonomic' issues, and not waste time on colors and wallpapers and other bubblegum that half of the user base will be guaranteed not to like anyway.  I'm not picking on Ubuntu; this criticism certainly applies to Windows and other OSs and Linux distros, too.  Too much time wasted on fluff that doesn't matter much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish they 'd stay focused on usability and 'ergonomic ' issues , and not waste time on colors and wallpapers and other bubblegum that half of the user base will be guaranteed not to like anyway .
I 'm not picking on Ubuntu ; this criticism certainly applies to Windows and other OSs and Linux distros , too .
Too much time wasted on fluff that does n't matter much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish they'd stay focused on usability and 'ergonomic' issues, and not waste time on colors and wallpapers and other bubblegum that half of the user base will be guaranteed not to like anyway.
I'm not picking on Ubuntu; this criticism certainly applies to Windows and other OSs and Linux distros, too.
Too much time wasted on fluff that doesn't matter much.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355726</id>
	<title>Colors dont bother me</title>
	<author>DeadRat4life</author>
	<datestamp>1267695900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I dont know many people that jkeep their distros default colors anyway. What worries me about the screen shot is the button relocation. Thats fine to make it an option but to default people into that when most are coming from an OS that has buttons on the right is just stupid. If mac users switching over want the buttons there they can put them there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I dont know many people that jkeep their distros default colors anyway .
What worries me about the screen shot is the button relocation .
Thats fine to make it an option but to default people into that when most are coming from an OS that has buttons on the right is just stupid .
If mac users switching over want the buttons there they can put them there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dont know many people that jkeep their distros default colors anyway.
What worries me about the screen shot is the button relocation.
Thats fine to make it an option but to default people into that when most are coming from an OS that has buttons on the right is just stupid.
If mac users switching over want the buttons there they can put them there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357792</id>
	<title>Sarcasm?</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1267717200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"more professional color scheme with purple and orange"</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; What like the Joker?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" more professional color scheme with purple and orange "       What like the Joker ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"more professional color scheme with purple and orange"
      What like the Joker?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353598</id>
	<title>Unexpected, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Say it with me, boys. "Ubuntu: Jumping the shark has never looked so professional!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Say it with me , boys .
" Ubuntu : Jumping the shark has never looked so professional !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Say it with me, boys.
"Ubuntu: Jumping the shark has never looked so professional!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357800</id>
	<title>Open-source needs designers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267717260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those are the words of Mark Shuttleworth. He said that while giving the keynote at PyCon this year. He says that "good enough" is no longer good enough.  I think what he's getting at is open-source needs to start sweating the details.  It needs to learn from Apple.  Solid software needs to look as good as it works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those are the words of Mark Shuttleworth .
He said that while giving the keynote at PyCon this year .
He says that " good enough " is no longer good enough .
I think what he 's getting at is open-source needs to start sweating the details .
It needs to learn from Apple .
Solid software needs to look as good as it works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those are the words of Mark Shuttleworth.
He said that while giving the keynote at PyCon this year.
He says that "good enough" is no longer good enough.
I think what he's getting at is open-source needs to start sweating the details.
It needs to learn from Apple.
Solid software needs to look as good as it works.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353616</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Ubuntu</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't care so much about the color scheme as the general UI.  Windows has come a long way since 2002.  Gnome hasn't.</p><p>Not complaining... the Windows guys get more money.  But still... competition is competition, and money or not, Gnome isn't competing with Windows 7 like it could with Windows XP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care so much about the color scheme as the general UI .
Windows has come a long way since 2002 .
Gnome has n't.Not complaining... the Windows guys get more money .
But still... competition is competition , and money or not , Gnome is n't competing with Windows 7 like it could with Windows XP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care so much about the color scheme as the general UI.
Windows has come a long way since 2002.
Gnome hasn't.Not complaining... the Windows guys get more money.
But still... competition is competition, and money or not, Gnome isn't competing with Windows 7 like it could with Windows XP.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353946</id>
	<title>Vague purple background reminds me of...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267632000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... an out of focus tit as seen from over head illuminated by a weak black-light bulb. The nipple is glinting orange for some reason. Perhaps a better background guys?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... an out of focus tit as seen from over head illuminated by a weak black-light bulb .
The nipple is glinting orange for some reason .
Perhaps a better background guys ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... an out of focus tit as seen from over head illuminated by a weak black-light bulb.
The nipple is glinting orange for some reason.
Perhaps a better background guys?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354826</id>
	<title>Re:Window control buttons on the left? Bad.</title>
	<author>digitalchinky</author>
	<datestamp>1267641420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, even easier, with your mouse ~anywhere~ in the window, hit the Alt key and your right mouse button - it'll bring up a menu thing to do the business with. Same deal with resizing, you don't need to be clicking on window borders, alt - middle mouse button, drag out the window to the size you want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , even easier , with your mouse ~ anywhere ~ in the window , hit the Alt key and your right mouse button - it 'll bring up a menu thing to do the business with .
Same deal with resizing , you do n't need to be clicking on window borders , alt - middle mouse button , drag out the window to the size you want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, even easier, with your mouse ~anywhere~ in the window, hit the Alt key and your right mouse button - it'll bring up a menu thing to do the business with.
Same deal with resizing, you don't need to be clicking on window borders, alt - middle mouse button, drag out the window to the size you want.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353558</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31360818</id>
	<title>Re:Bad window frame button choice</title>
	<author>yossarianuk</author>
	<datestamp>1267731720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope you can change the location of the frame buttons.

As its gnome most likely you can't though, gnome doesn't even allow you to edit screensaver settings...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope you can change the location of the frame buttons .
As its gnome most likely you ca n't though , gnome does n't even allow you to edit screensaver settings.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope you can change the location of the frame buttons.
As its gnome most likely you can't though, gnome doesn't even allow you to edit screensaver settings...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353846</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356106</id>
	<title>Come on Ubuntu</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267700820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Forget "Light", when are you going to drop Magnum on us??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Forget " Light " , when are you going to drop Magnum on us ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forget "Light", when are you going to drop Magnum on us?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31365870</id>
	<title>Re:Window control buttons on the left? Bad.</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1267713540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It works on the Mac because the application menu is up at the top of the screen for everything. If the application menu was within the application window, users who didn't have precise control of the mouse would constantly be hitting the Close button when they meant to hit File. On Windows/Linux, users are trained to go to the left of the window for the menu and the right for the window controls. I bet this will trip up a lot of users who use the default decorations for Lynx.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It works on the Mac because the application menu is up at the top of the screen for everything .
If the application menu was within the application window , users who did n't have precise control of the mouse would constantly be hitting the Close button when they meant to hit File .
On Windows/Linux , users are trained to go to the left of the window for the menu and the right for the window controls .
I bet this will trip up a lot of users who use the default decorations for Lynx .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It works on the Mac because the application menu is up at the top of the screen for everything.
If the application menu was within the application window, users who didn't have precise control of the mouse would constantly be hitting the Close button when they meant to hit File.
On Windows/Linux, users are trained to go to the left of the window for the menu and the right for the window controls.
I bet this will trip up a lot of users who use the default decorations for Lynx.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353558</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356618</id>
	<title>So what?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267707780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Usual routine once the LiveCD has finished:</p><p>1. Install updates<br>2. Add additional repositories<br>3. Run stored custom list of additional applications through aptitude (startupmanager, putty, openssh, git, chromium, opera,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...)<br>4. Repeat "1." in case there are some weird dependencies (happened to me more than once)<br>5. Visit gnome-look.org to give the new install its own personality<br>6. Apply UI preferences (Compiz productivity options, terminal window colors,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...)</p><p>Since most of that stuff can be scripted anyway the default theme is merely a placeholder until that procedure is done.<br>So why should I even worry about something I won't see again until I set up another machine?</p><p>Sorry, Canonical but if I wanted my system to look and behave like OSX I'd simply "hackintosh" it.<br>I prefer your distribution simply because I like how it's set up under the hood and because Google usually spits out helpful results if a problem with an application or driver has to be solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Usual routine once the LiveCD has finished : 1 .
Install updates2 .
Add additional repositories3 .
Run stored custom list of additional applications through aptitude ( startupmanager , putty , openssh , git , chromium , opera , ... ) 4 .
Repeat " 1 .
" in case there are some weird dependencies ( happened to me more than once ) 5 .
Visit gnome-look.org to give the new install its own personality6 .
Apply UI preferences ( Compiz productivity options , terminal window colors , ... ) Since most of that stuff can be scripted anyway the default theme is merely a placeholder until that procedure is done.So why should I even worry about something I wo n't see again until I set up another machine ? Sorry , Canonical but if I wanted my system to look and behave like OSX I 'd simply " hackintosh " it.I prefer your distribution simply because I like how it 's set up under the hood and because Google usually spits out helpful results if a problem with an application or driver has to be solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usual routine once the LiveCD has finished:1.
Install updates2.
Add additional repositories3.
Run stored custom list of additional applications through aptitude (startupmanager, putty, openssh, git, chromium, opera, ...)4.
Repeat "1.
" in case there are some weird dependencies (happened to me more than once)5.
Visit gnome-look.org to give the new install its own personality6.
Apply UI preferences (Compiz productivity options, terminal window colors, ...)Since most of that stuff can be scripted anyway the default theme is merely a placeholder until that procedure is done.So why should I even worry about something I won't see again until I set up another machine?Sorry, Canonical but if I wanted my system to look and behave like OSX I'd simply "hackintosh" it.I prefer your distribution simply because I like how it's set up under the hood and because Google usually spits out helpful results if a problem with an application or driver has to be solved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354448</id>
	<title>Re:It might look nicer but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267637400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed. Fewer make-overs, more bug fixing, please.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed .
Fewer make-overs , more bug fixing , please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed.
Fewer make-overs, more bug fixing, please.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354744</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>curveclimber</author>
	<datestamp>1267640460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nah, I use OS X at work and Ubuntu at home: right side is the right side.  You spend most of your time in a GUI opening, scrolling and closing windows.  Putting controls on the left side means you have to cross the screen every time you want to work with a window.  How do you accidently close a maximised window?  I suppose your argument would make sense if a lot of what people did with windows was drag them all over their screen.  Maybe people do.  I certainly don't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah , I use OS X at work and Ubuntu at home : right side is the right side .
You spend most of your time in a GUI opening , scrolling and closing windows .
Putting controls on the left side means you have to cross the screen every time you want to work with a window .
How do you accidently close a maximised window ?
I suppose your argument would make sense if a lot of what people did with windows was drag them all over their screen .
Maybe people do .
I certainly do n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah, I use OS X at work and Ubuntu at home: right side is the right side.
You spend most of your time in a GUI opening, scrolling and closing windows.
Putting controls on the left side means you have to cross the screen every time you want to work with a window.
How do you accidently close a maximised window?
I suppose your argument would make sense if a lot of what people did with windows was drag them all over their screen.
Maybe people do.
I certainly don't.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31358852</id>
	<title>Re:Must be a slow news day...</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1267723200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Regardless of operating system, the defaults last just long enough for me to figure out how to change them to what I like.</i> </p><p>In the work place, not everyone gets to change the defaults.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Regardless of operating system , the defaults last just long enough for me to figure out how to change them to what I like .
In the work place , not everyone gets to change the defaults .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regardless of operating system, the defaults last just long enough for me to figure out how to change them to what I like.
In the work place, not everyone gets to change the defaults.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354206</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355928</id>
	<title>Purple and Orange... like a PDP-11!</title>
	<author>jabberw0k</author>
	<datestamp>1267698600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it's purple and orange &#225; la Digital Equipment Corporation 1970s PDP-11's, then where's the matching "outline" font and where's my front panel?  Will it be available on DECtape?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's purple and orange   la Digital Equipment Corporation 1970s PDP-11 's , then where 's the matching " outline " font and where 's my front panel ?
Will it be available on DECtape ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's purple and orange á la Digital Equipment Corporation 1970s PDP-11's, then where's the matching "outline" font and where's my front panel?
Will it be available on DECtape?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355100</id>
	<title>Re:Bubblegum fudge</title>
	<author>AthanasiusKircher</author>
	<datestamp>1267645020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wish they'd stay focused on usability and 'ergonomic' issues, and not waste time on colors and wallpapers and other bubblegum that half of the user base will be guaranteed not to like anyway.[...] Too much time wasted on fluff that doesn't matter much.</p></div><p>Although I agree with you in principle, have you read any Slashdot stories on Ubuntu in the past few years?  EVERY time Ubuntu comes up, there's some thread going on (and usually multiple threads) about the damn color scheme.  You rarely see any such comments about Kubuntu or Xubuntu and their color scheme.  It's always complaining about the default Gnome colors.  I don't remember such vociferous objections being raised over so many years about a color scheme on any other topic here.</p><p>

The only explanation I can come up with is that this color scheme pisses a lot of people off.  I don't know why.  I don't particularly like it myself (though I do like earth tones in general), but I don't feel the compulsive need to bitch about it to everyone... if I don't like it, I simply change it.  (What's so hard?)  But it nevertheless seems to produce a greater response in many, many users.</p><p>

Anyhow, the point is -- the default theme seems to be a major barrier for a lot of people.  So, maybe they should spend a little time on it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish they 'd stay focused on usability and 'ergonomic ' issues , and not waste time on colors and wallpapers and other bubblegum that half of the user base will be guaranteed not to like anyway. [ .. .
] Too much time wasted on fluff that does n't matter much.Although I agree with you in principle , have you read any Slashdot stories on Ubuntu in the past few years ?
EVERY time Ubuntu comes up , there 's some thread going on ( and usually multiple threads ) about the damn color scheme .
You rarely see any such comments about Kubuntu or Xubuntu and their color scheme .
It 's always complaining about the default Gnome colors .
I do n't remember such vociferous objections being raised over so many years about a color scheme on any other topic here .
The only explanation I can come up with is that this color scheme pisses a lot of people off .
I do n't know why .
I do n't particularly like it myself ( though I do like earth tones in general ) , but I do n't feel the compulsive need to bitch about it to everyone... if I do n't like it , I simply change it .
( What 's so hard ?
) But it nevertheless seems to produce a greater response in many , many users .
Anyhow , the point is -- the default theme seems to be a major barrier for a lot of people .
So , maybe they should spend a little time on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish they'd stay focused on usability and 'ergonomic' issues, and not waste time on colors and wallpapers and other bubblegum that half of the user base will be guaranteed not to like anyway.[...
] Too much time wasted on fluff that doesn't matter much.Although I agree with you in principle, have you read any Slashdot stories on Ubuntu in the past few years?
EVERY time Ubuntu comes up, there's some thread going on (and usually multiple threads) about the damn color scheme.
You rarely see any such comments about Kubuntu or Xubuntu and their color scheme.
It's always complaining about the default Gnome colors.
I don't remember such vociferous objections being raised over so many years about a color scheme on any other topic here.
The only explanation I can come up with is that this color scheme pisses a lot of people off.
I don't know why.
I don't particularly like it myself (though I do like earth tones in general), but I don't feel the compulsive need to bitch about it to everyone... if I don't like it, I simply change it.
(What's so hard?
)  But it nevertheless seems to produce a greater response in many, many users.
Anyhow, the point is -- the default theme seems to be a major barrier for a lot of people.
So, maybe they should spend a little time on it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353752</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353536</id>
	<title>Unbuntu 10.04? Should be 1.0</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267629000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The colors will be used in a new GNOME theme and boot splash for Ubuntu 10.04"</p><p>It's nice to see a Linux release finally reach 1.0 usability.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The colors will be used in a new GNOME theme and boot splash for Ubuntu 10.04 " It 's nice to see a Linux release finally reach 1.0 usability .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The colors will be used in a new GNOME theme and boot splash for Ubuntu 10.04"It's nice to see a Linux release finally reach 1.0 usability.
:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31360566</id>
	<title>So the classic mac and windows 3.1 had a baby?</title>
	<author>TheReal\_sabret00the</author>
	<datestamp>1267730460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a huge improvement, but still it looks like classic mac with an upgrade, it's miles off of Windows 7 which is a shame. I wouldn't have minded putting it on one of my laptops.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a huge improvement , but still it looks like classic mac with an upgrade , it 's miles off of Windows 7 which is a shame .
I would n't have minded putting it on one of my laptops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a huge improvement, but still it looks like classic mac with an upgrade, it's miles off of Windows 7 which is a shame.
I wouldn't have minded putting it on one of my laptops.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354768</id>
	<title>Re:I for one will miss the babysh*t brown color</title>
	<author>JDmetro</author>
	<datestamp>1267640700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Baby shit is black...well at least the first few turds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Baby shit is black...well at least the first few turds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Baby shit is black...well at least the first few turds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353552</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356986</id>
	<title>Re:Must be a slow news day...</title>
	<author>chord.wav</author>
	<datestamp>1267711740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have synaesthesia and the brown tastes like shit, you insensitive clod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have synaesthesia and the brown tastes like shit , you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have synaesthesia and the brown tastes like shit, you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354206</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355598</id>
	<title>Re:About Time</title>
	<author>poached</author>
	<datestamp>1267694400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have to agree.  I hated the shade of brown with default Ubuntu.  I could never stand it and that stop me from using Ubuntu.</p><p>Now that I have found LinuxMint I will never go back (Ubuntu with a much more pleasant color).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have to agree .
I hated the shade of brown with default Ubuntu .
I could never stand it and that stop me from using Ubuntu.Now that I have found LinuxMint I will never go back ( Ubuntu with a much more pleasant color ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have to agree.
I hated the shade of brown with default Ubuntu.
I could never stand it and that stop me from using Ubuntu.Now that I have found LinuxMint I will never go back (Ubuntu with a much more pleasant color).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353548</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354584</id>
	<title>Huh..</title>
	<author>libcrypto</author>
	<datestamp>1267638660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Purple is more "professional" than Brown? Still looks dowdy to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Purple is more " professional " than Brown ?
Still looks dowdy to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Purple is more "professional" than Brown?
Still looks dowdy to me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356082</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267700220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.  Almost everyone.  There are an awful lot of users who don't change the default theme on anything.  Sometimes because they don't know it is possible.  Sometimes because they are afraid to do something that might break the computer.  A site like Slashdot or Linux Today is mostly read by technical people and power users, who don't realize what a minority they are and don't realize that few users ever change more than the wallpaper, if they change even that.  I knew a lawyer who had a Dell for a year, and it still had the default Dell-advertisement wallpaper it had come with.  There is also such a thing as server installs, which do get seen by technical people from time to time, but there is little reason to change the theme.  The new theme is better but I'm still a bit disappointed.  Anything is better than the default sh\_\_ brown that my Ubuntu servers have been stuck with for years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
Almost everyone .
There are an awful lot of users who do n't change the default theme on anything .
Sometimes because they do n't know it is possible .
Sometimes because they are afraid to do something that might break the computer .
A site like Slashdot or Linux Today is mostly read by technical people and power users , who do n't realize what a minority they are and do n't realize that few users ever change more than the wallpaper , if they change even that .
I knew a lawyer who had a Dell for a year , and it still had the default Dell-advertisement wallpaper it had come with .
There is also such a thing as server installs , which do get seen by technical people from time to time , but there is little reason to change the theme .
The new theme is better but I 'm still a bit disappointed .
Anything is better than the default sh \ _ \ _ brown that my Ubuntu servers have been stuck with for years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
Almost everyone.
There are an awful lot of users who don't change the default theme on anything.
Sometimes because they don't know it is possible.
Sometimes because they are afraid to do something that might break the computer.
A site like Slashdot or Linux Today is mostly read by technical people and power users, who don't realize what a minority they are and don't realize that few users ever change more than the wallpaper, if they change even that.
I knew a lawyer who had a Dell for a year, and it still had the default Dell-advertisement wallpaper it had come with.
There is also such a thing as server installs, which do get seen by technical people from time to time, but there is little reason to change the theme.
The new theme is better but I'm still a bit disappointed.
Anything is better than the default sh\_\_ brown that my Ubuntu servers have been stuck with for years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354354</id>
	<title>Re:Bad window frame button choice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267636380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Call the wahmbulance. Sorry, buster, but this minor change will be easily absorbed within a couple days. It's not like Microsoft's ribbons or ELSE Mobile's radial menus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Call the wahmbulance .
Sorry , buster , but this minor change will be easily absorbed within a couple days .
It 's not like Microsoft 's ribbons or ELSE Mobile 's radial menus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Call the wahmbulance.
Sorry, buster, but this minor change will be easily absorbed within a couple days.
It's not like Microsoft's ribbons or ELSE Mobile's radial menus.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353846</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31369128</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>dotancohen</author>
	<datestamp>1267788960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clearlooks is available for Gnome?</p><p>I'm a KDE user, and the first thing I do on a new KDE install is set it to clearlooks. How can I change the GTK applications' theme to clearlooks as well, so that they will match my KDE applications? Note that I don't have Gnome installed, so I'd need to know that name of the configuration utility, or the config file to edit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearlooks is available for Gnome ? I 'm a KDE user , and the first thing I do on a new KDE install is set it to clearlooks .
How can I change the GTK applications ' theme to clearlooks as well , so that they will match my KDE applications ?
Note that I do n't have Gnome installed , so I 'd need to know that name of the configuration utility , or the config file to edit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearlooks is available for Gnome?I'm a KDE user, and the first thing I do on a new KDE install is set it to clearlooks.
How can I change the GTK applications' theme to clearlooks as well, so that they will match my KDE applications?
Note that I don't have Gnome installed, so I'd need to know that name of the configuration utility, or the config file to edit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354778</id>
	<title>Re:New theme</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1267640880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hush you. You do <em>not</em> want<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. developers to come up with more bright ideas on how to further change (= break) things that were working perfectly fine for years. You ask for a new icon, and you get some Web 2.99 alpha animated HTML5/SVG monstrosity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hush you .
You do not want / .
developers to come up with more bright ideas on how to further change ( = break ) things that were working perfectly fine for years .
You ask for a new icon , and you get some Web 2.99 alpha animated HTML5/SVG monstrosity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hush you.
You do not want /.
developers to come up with more bright ideas on how to further change (= break) things that were working perfectly fine for years.
You ask for a new icon, and you get some Web 2.99 alpha animated HTML5/SVG monstrosity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353728</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354184</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>hansamurai</author>
	<datestamp>1267634520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dust theme is the way to go.</p><p><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme" title="ubuntu.com">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme</a> [ubuntu.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dust theme is the way to go.https : //wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme [ ubuntu.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dust theme is the way to go.https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme [ubuntu.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355990</id>
	<title>Windowsthink in the Linux world?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1267699140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only a Windows (or OS X?) user, or someone who uses Linux but still thinks in Windows logic, could make such a fuss around a color scheme.<br>Linux is not Windows. In Linux, you got a choice. And you usually use it.<br>While in Windows, you have to install a crack to get other color schemes, and they are very limited, under Linux you can freely choose from whatever you like. And so the style/theme/scheme that comes with the installer, is just a mere default setting, that you&rsquo;re going to change anyway.</p><p>A list of things you can change in X Window environments:</p><ul><li>Window...<ul> <li>manager</li><li>decorator</li><li>style</li><li>color scheme</li></ul></li><li>Widget...<ul> <li>renderer</li><li>style</li><li>color scheme</li></ul></li><li>Task bar (with style)</li><li>Program launcher (with style)</li><li>Widgets (clock, mount status, weather, etc)</li></ul><p>So there really is no point in making a fuss about the default style. Nobody cares. Because nobody is nearly forced to use it. It&rsquo;s changed with a click.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only a Windows ( or OS X ?
) user , or someone who uses Linux but still thinks in Windows logic , could make such a fuss around a color scheme.Linux is not Windows .
In Linux , you got a choice .
And you usually use it.While in Windows , you have to install a crack to get other color schemes , and they are very limited , under Linux you can freely choose from whatever you like .
And so the style/theme/scheme that comes with the installer , is just a mere default setting , that you    re going to change anyway.A list of things you can change in X Window environments : Window... managerdecoratorstylecolor schemeWidget... rendererstylecolor schemeTask bar ( with style ) Program launcher ( with style ) Widgets ( clock , mount status , weather , etc ) So there really is no point in making a fuss about the default style .
Nobody cares .
Because nobody is nearly forced to use it .
It    s changed with a click .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only a Windows (or OS X?
) user, or someone who uses Linux but still thinks in Windows logic, could make such a fuss around a color scheme.Linux is not Windows.
In Linux, you got a choice.
And you usually use it.While in Windows, you have to install a crack to get other color schemes, and they are very limited, under Linux you can freely choose from whatever you like.
And so the style/theme/scheme that comes with the installer, is just a mere default setting, that you’re going to change anyway.A list of things you can change in X Window environments:Window... managerdecoratorstylecolor schemeWidget... rendererstylecolor schemeTask bar (with style)Program launcher (with style)Widgets (clock, mount status, weather, etc)So there really is no point in making a fuss about the default style.
Nobody cares.
Because nobody is nearly forced to use it.
It’s changed with a click.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354204</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, what?</title>
	<author>bertok</author>
	<datestamp>1267634760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Purple and orange" is a professional color scheme?</p><p>I don't even know what color tie goes with a blue shirt, but even I know that's awful.</p></div><p>Actually, the purple-orange-green-grey color combination is pretty popular, especially in Asia, where's it's a traditional combination that I personally think looks rather nice. The issue is that it only looks good if the tones are properly matched, which isn't easy to achieve on the typical uncalibrated LCD with a narrow color gamut.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Purple and orange " is a professional color scheme ? I do n't even know what color tie goes with a blue shirt , but even I know that 's awful.Actually , the purple-orange-green-grey color combination is pretty popular , especially in Asia , where 's it 's a traditional combination that I personally think looks rather nice .
The issue is that it only looks good if the tones are properly matched , which is n't easy to achieve on the typical uncalibrated LCD with a narrow color gamut .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Purple and orange" is a professional color scheme?I don't even know what color tie goes with a blue shirt, but even I know that's awful.Actually, the purple-orange-green-grey color combination is pretty popular, especially in Asia, where's it's a traditional combination that I personally think looks rather nice.
The issue is that it only looks good if the tones are properly matched, which isn't easy to achieve on the typical uncalibrated LCD with a narrow color gamut.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353614</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356022</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267699440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, I actually like the brown colour scheme. I'm also a girl who uses linux and posts on slashdot so perhaps I am merely a mythical figment of your imagination.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I actually like the brown colour scheme .
I 'm also a girl who uses linux and posts on slashdot so perhaps I am merely a mythical figment of your imagination .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I actually like the brown colour scheme.
I'm also a girl who uses linux and posts on slashdot so perhaps I am merely a mythical figment of your imagination.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31358300</id>
	<title>Re:Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>rwyoder</author>
	<datestamp>1267720440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Orange and purple?<br>
I would call that the "Nash Bridges" color scheme.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Orange and purple ?
I would call that the " Nash Bridges " color scheme .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Orange and purple?
I would call that the "Nash Bridges" color scheme.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353468</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357162</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>Kleiba</author>
	<datestamp>1267713060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See - people are different and one person's preference will be very different from the next one's.</p><blockquote><div><p>First, which side of the window, and for that matter the screen, are all of the menus on? That's right, the left-hand side. So why would you want to have to move your mouse a thousand pixels to close a window?</p></div></blockquote><p>

To make it harder to accidentally close a window if all you want to do is access the menu.</p><blockquote><div><p>Second, what is the most destructive operation you can perform on a window? Closing it. Why on earth are you beating your users over the head by putting the most destructive operation that close to the corner? When it's on the corner, it's much easier to hit by accident, for example when reaching to resize the window. This has happened time and again with me on Windows to the point of absolute fury</p></div></blockquote><p>

Interesting. I personally have never tried to resize a window by grabbing the top right corner - and especially if I knew I could hit the close button by mistake, I'd probably use one of the other corners and reposition the window if necessary.</p><blockquote><div><p>Every Mac user can immediately appreciate the position of the window controls, if they use them at all. They are clearly colored for improved accuracy, they're out of the way, and what's even better, you usually don't have to use them, since OS X's Expose is so much more convenient, even more so than Compiz, anyways</p></div></blockquote><p>

I don't find a lot of relevant and/or accurate observations in that last part of your rant. For instance, why would color coding improve accuracy? Why would Expose be relevant here, since it serves a totally different purpose than the window buttons?

But in the end, I guess, most of what goes in this whole thread is a matter of taste and, as they say, de gustibus non est disputandum.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>See - people are different and one person 's preference will be very different from the next one 's.First , which side of the window , and for that matter the screen , are all of the menus on ?
That 's right , the left-hand side .
So why would you want to have to move your mouse a thousand pixels to close a window ?
To make it harder to accidentally close a window if all you want to do is access the menu.Second , what is the most destructive operation you can perform on a window ?
Closing it .
Why on earth are you beating your users over the head by putting the most destructive operation that close to the corner ?
When it 's on the corner , it 's much easier to hit by accident , for example when reaching to resize the window .
This has happened time and again with me on Windows to the point of absolute fury Interesting .
I personally have never tried to resize a window by grabbing the top right corner - and especially if I knew I could hit the close button by mistake , I 'd probably use one of the other corners and reposition the window if necessary.Every Mac user can immediately appreciate the position of the window controls , if they use them at all .
They are clearly colored for improved accuracy , they 're out of the way , and what 's even better , you usually do n't have to use them , since OS X 's Expose is so much more convenient , even more so than Compiz , anyways I do n't find a lot of relevant and/or accurate observations in that last part of your rant .
For instance , why would color coding improve accuracy ?
Why would Expose be relevant here , since it serves a totally different purpose than the window buttons ?
But in the end , I guess , most of what goes in this whole thread is a matter of taste and , as they say , de gustibus non est disputandum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See - people are different and one person's preference will be very different from the next one's.First, which side of the window, and for that matter the screen, are all of the menus on?
That's right, the left-hand side.
So why would you want to have to move your mouse a thousand pixels to close a window?
To make it harder to accidentally close a window if all you want to do is access the menu.Second, what is the most destructive operation you can perform on a window?
Closing it.
Why on earth are you beating your users over the head by putting the most destructive operation that close to the corner?
When it's on the corner, it's much easier to hit by accident, for example when reaching to resize the window.
This has happened time and again with me on Windows to the point of absolute fury

Interesting.
I personally have never tried to resize a window by grabbing the top right corner - and especially if I knew I could hit the close button by mistake, I'd probably use one of the other corners and reposition the window if necessary.Every Mac user can immediately appreciate the position of the window controls, if they use them at all.
They are clearly colored for improved accuracy, they're out of the way, and what's even better, you usually don't have to use them, since OS X's Expose is so much more convenient, even more so than Compiz, anyways

I don't find a lot of relevant and/or accurate observations in that last part of your rant.
For instance, why would color coding improve accuracy?
Why would Expose be relevant here, since it serves a totally different purpose than the window buttons?
But in the end, I guess, most of what goes in this whole thread is a matter of taste and, as they say, de gustibus non est disputandum.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353986</id>
	<title>Re:Wait, what?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267632300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dark blue shirt - &gt; Light blue tie.</p><p>Light blue shirt -&gt; White tie.</p><p>VERY light blue shirt -&gt; Dark blue or black tie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dark blue shirt - &gt; Light blue tie.Light blue shirt - &gt; White tie.VERY light blue shirt - &gt; Dark blue or black tie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dark blue shirt - &gt; Light blue tie.Light blue shirt -&gt; White tie.VERY light blue shirt -&gt; Dark blue or black tie.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353614</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353918</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1267631760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does anyone actually ever use the default Ubuntu theme? I know whenever I install Gnome the first thing I do is set it to clearlooks.</p></div><p>Yes.  One of my jobs a while back was to install and test bajillions of OSes (including many Linux distros), so I quickly stopped tweaking the default settings on my own computers.  That said, I do change the compiz desktop to use the cube to impress the ladies, and it helps me keep desktops straight since I'm spatially oriented.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone actually ever use the default Ubuntu theme ?
I know whenever I install Gnome the first thing I do is set it to clearlooks.Yes .
One of my jobs a while back was to install and test bajillions of OSes ( including many Linux distros ) , so I quickly stopped tweaking the default settings on my own computers .
That said , I do change the compiz desktop to use the cube to impress the ladies , and it helps me keep desktops straight since I 'm spatially oriented .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone actually ever use the default Ubuntu theme?
I know whenever I install Gnome the first thing I do is set it to clearlooks.Yes.
One of my jobs a while back was to install and test bajillions of OSes (including many Linux distros), so I quickly stopped tweaking the default settings on my own computers.
That said, I do change the compiz desktop to use the cube to impress the ladies, and it helps me keep desktops straight since I'm spatially oriented.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353472</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356406</id>
	<title>This != news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267704780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't get why this is news. The people who care about how Ubuntu looks (like myself) already know how to customize the UI to make it look like anything. New users who aren't familiar with it probably don't give a shit as long as it works.</p><p>Seriously, though, if you hate the colors so much, www.gnome-look.org is your friend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get why this is news .
The people who care about how Ubuntu looks ( like myself ) already know how to customize the UI to make it look like anything .
New users who are n't familiar with it probably do n't give a shit as long as it works.Seriously , though , if you hate the colors so much , www.gnome-look.org is your friend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get why this is news.
The people who care about how Ubuntu looks (like myself) already know how to customize the UI to make it look like anything.
New users who aren't familiar with it probably don't give a shit as long as it works.Seriously, though, if you hate the colors so much, www.gnome-look.org is your friend.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354286</id>
	<title>Where's the green?</title>
	<author>Colonel Korn</author>
	<datestamp>1267635540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Color theory says that orange and purple need green to make a balanced set (equidistant angular jumps between each component on the color wheel).  I don't see any green in the screenshot and it grates on me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Color theory says that orange and purple need green to make a balanced set ( equidistant angular jumps between each component on the color wheel ) .
I do n't see any green in the screenshot and it grates on me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Color theory says that orange and purple need green to make a balanced set (equidistant angular jumps between each component on the color wheel).
I don't see any green in the screenshot and it grates on me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354760</id>
	<title>OSX, much?</title>
	<author>seandiggity</author>
	<datestamp>1267640640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Take a look at these two screenshots:<br>
<a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Snow\_Leopard\_Desktop.png" title="wikimedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Snow\_Leopard\_Desktop.png</a> [wikimedia.org] <br>
<a href="http://static.arstechnica.com//ubnutu\_light\_2.jpg" title="arstechnica.com" rel="nofollow">http://static.arstechnica.com//ubnutu\_light\_2.jpg</a> [arstechnica.com]
<br> <br>
'nuff said...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Take a look at these two screenshots : http : //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Snow \ _Leopard \ _Desktop.png [ wikimedia.org ] http : //static.arstechnica.com//ubnutu \ _light \ _2.jpg [ arstechnica.com ] 'nuff said.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take a look at these two screenshots:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Snow\_Leopard\_Desktop.png [wikimedia.org] 
http://static.arstechnica.com//ubnutu\_light\_2.jpg [arstechnica.com]
 
'nuff said...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353732</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Ubuntu</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267630440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With his billions, Shuttleworth needs to hire a crack team of icon developers for a year. OSS icons stink, and icons are what you look at. Personally, I never use 'em. Just plain, clean menus (fvwm2).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With his billions , Shuttleworth needs to hire a crack team of icon developers for a year .
OSS icons stink , and icons are what you look at .
Personally , I never use 'em .
Just plain , clean menus ( fvwm2 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With his billions, Shuttleworth needs to hire a crack team of icon developers for a year.
OSS icons stink, and icons are what you look at.
Personally, I never use 'em.
Just plain, clean menus (fvwm2).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356450</id>
	<title>So what?</title>
	<author>lennier1</author>
	<datestamp>1267705320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My usual routine:</p><p>1.) Install updates<br>2.) Add additional repositories<br>3.) Run stored custom list of additional applications through aptitude (startupmanager, putty, openssh, git, chromium, opera,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...)<br>4.) Repeat "1.)" in case there are some weird dependencies (happened to me more than once)<br>5.) Visit gnome-look.org to give the new install its own personality<br>6.) Apply UI preferences (Compiz productivity options, terminal window colors,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...)</p><p>Since most of that stuff can be scripted anyway the default theme is merely a placeholder until that procedure is done.<br>So why should I even worry about something I won't see again until I set up another machine?</p><p>Sorry, Canonical but if I wanted my system to look and/or behave like OSX I'd simply "hackintosh" it.<br>I prefer your distribution simply because I like how it's set up under the hood and because Google usually spits out helpful results if a problem with an application or driver has to be solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My usual routine : 1 .
) Install updates2 .
) Add additional repositories3 .
) Run stored custom list of additional applications through aptitude ( startupmanager , putty , openssh , git , chromium , opera , ... ) 4 .
) Repeat " 1 .
) " in case there are some weird dependencies ( happened to me more than once ) 5 .
) Visit gnome-look.org to give the new install its own personality6 .
) Apply UI preferences ( Compiz productivity options , terminal window colors , ... ) Since most of that stuff can be scripted anyway the default theme is merely a placeholder until that procedure is done.So why should I even worry about something I wo n't see again until I set up another machine ? Sorry , Canonical but if I wanted my system to look and/or behave like OSX I 'd simply " hackintosh " it.I prefer your distribution simply because I like how it 's set up under the hood and because Google usually spits out helpful results if a problem with an application or driver has to be solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My usual routine:1.
) Install updates2.
) Add additional repositories3.
) Run stored custom list of additional applications through aptitude (startupmanager, putty, openssh, git, chromium, opera, ...)4.
) Repeat "1.
)" in case there are some weird dependencies (happened to me more than once)5.
) Visit gnome-look.org to give the new install its own personality6.
) Apply UI preferences (Compiz productivity options, terminal window colors, ...)Since most of that stuff can be scripted anyway the default theme is merely a placeholder until that procedure is done.So why should I even worry about something I won't see again until I set up another machine?Sorry, Canonical but if I wanted my system to look and/or behave like OSX I'd simply "hackintosh" it.I prefer your distribution simply because I like how it's set up under the hood and because Google usually spits out helpful results if a problem with an application or driver has to be solved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353892</id>
	<title>The GNOME theme isn't ugly</title>
	<author>enter to exit</author>
	<datestamp>1267631520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The GNOME theme isn't ugly. It's the default wallpaper Ubuntu goes with it that makes it look hideous. <br> <br>
The 9.10 release has some nice BGs that go well with the Ubuntu GNOME colour scheme, but for some reason they chose a gradient brown one as the default.  <br> <br>

The sceenshots in the article makes the new Ubuntu theme look like a non-trademark-infringing superficial copy of OSX. Those are the worst kind of themes for any linux distro, everyone just thinks "half baked crabby Apple Mac for tight-arsed losers" <br> <br>

What do i care.... the way GNOME 3 (and the entire GNOME community) is panning out, it's only a matter of time until KDE (rightfully) takes the reigns and we can wash our hands of the "worst of osx + windows with less functionality" monstrosity GNOME as become.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The GNOME theme is n't ugly .
It 's the default wallpaper Ubuntu goes with it that makes it look hideous .
The 9.10 release has some nice BGs that go well with the Ubuntu GNOME colour scheme , but for some reason they chose a gradient brown one as the default .
The sceenshots in the article makes the new Ubuntu theme look like a non-trademark-infringing superficial copy of OSX .
Those are the worst kind of themes for any linux distro , everyone just thinks " half baked crabby Apple Mac for tight-arsed losers " What do i care.... the way GNOME 3 ( and the entire GNOME community ) is panning out , it 's only a matter of time until KDE ( rightfully ) takes the reigns and we can wash our hands of the " worst of osx + windows with less functionality " monstrosity GNOME as become .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The GNOME theme isn't ugly.
It's the default wallpaper Ubuntu goes with it that makes it look hideous.
The 9.10 release has some nice BGs that go well with the Ubuntu GNOME colour scheme, but for some reason they chose a gradient brown one as the default.
The sceenshots in the article makes the new Ubuntu theme look like a non-trademark-infringing superficial copy of OSX.
Those are the worst kind of themes for any linux distro, everyone just thinks "half baked crabby Apple Mac for tight-arsed losers"  

What do i care.... the way GNOME 3 (and the entire GNOME community) is panning out, it's only a matter of time until KDE (rightfully) takes the reigns and we can wash our hands of the "worst of osx + windows with less functionality" monstrosity GNOME as become.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355312</id>
	<title>Re:Purple and orange?</title>
	<author>aldld</author>
	<datestamp>1267733940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The purple looks like a pimp. Not sure about the orange though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The purple looks like a pimp .
Not sure about the orange though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The purple looks like a pimp.
Not sure about the orange though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353756</id>
	<title>Re:Excuse me?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267630500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>UPS' logic probably was that government-issue brown makes them look quasi-official. Much like how Federal Express calls themselves 'Federal' and ripped the postal service's livery.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>UPS ' logic probably was that government-issue brown makes them look quasi-official .
Much like how Federal Express calls themselves 'Federal ' and ripped the postal service 's livery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UPS' logic probably was that government-issue brown makes them look quasi-official.
Much like how Federal Express calls themselves 'Federal' and ripped the postal service's livery.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353638</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355072</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267644660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering mac users are about as far from their target demographic as you can get, I don't think they should design windows based on their similarity to that system.</p><p>Apple's main feature is usability (It just works, etc), and for most people Linux is the opposite. Unless you're willing to get down and use some command line, you're not going to get much out of Linux. Average Apple user + command line = imminent computer failure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering mac users are about as far from their target demographic as you can get , I do n't think they should design windows based on their similarity to that system.Apple 's main feature is usability ( It just works , etc ) , and for most people Linux is the opposite .
Unless you 're willing to get down and use some command line , you 're not going to get much out of Linux .
Average Apple user + command line = imminent computer failure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering mac users are about as far from their target demographic as you can get, I don't think they should design windows based on their similarity to that system.Apple's main feature is usability (It just works, etc), and for most people Linux is the opposite.
Unless you're willing to get down and use some command line, you're not going to get much out of Linux.
Average Apple user + command line = imminent computer failure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353846</id>
	<title>Bad window frame button choice</title>
	<author>LighterShadeOfBlack</author>
	<datestamp>1267631100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They've moved the window frame buttons to a place that's counter-intuitive for most people but they've also cocked that up in a way that doesn't even make sense for people used to OSX (the buttons are still laid out in the same order as if right-aligned). So now you've got buttons in places <i>nobody</i> is used to, the <b>X</b> button no longer benefits from the 'infinite-dimension' effect of being in a corner, and plus you've got the window frame buttons directly above the menubar - instantly making 10\% of attempts to open the <b>Edit</b> menu into accidental window closes. I guess they never stopped to think <i>why</i> most WMs have them on the right and OSX has them on the left.</p><p>Brilliant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've moved the window frame buttons to a place that 's counter-intuitive for most people but they 've also cocked that up in a way that does n't even make sense for people used to OSX ( the buttons are still laid out in the same order as if right-aligned ) .
So now you 've got buttons in places nobody is used to , the X button no longer benefits from the 'infinite-dimension ' effect of being in a corner , and plus you 've got the window frame buttons directly above the menubar - instantly making 10 \ % of attempts to open the Edit menu into accidental window closes .
I guess they never stopped to think why most WMs have them on the right and OSX has them on the left.Brilliant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've moved the window frame buttons to a place that's counter-intuitive for most people but they've also cocked that up in a way that doesn't even make sense for people used to OSX (the buttons are still laid out in the same order as if right-aligned).
So now you've got buttons in places nobody is used to, the X button no longer benefits from the 'infinite-dimension' effect of being in a corner, and plus you've got the window frame buttons directly above the menubar - instantly making 10\% of attempts to open the Edit menu into accidental window closes.
I guess they never stopped to think why most WMs have them on the right and OSX has them on the left.Brilliant.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354794</id>
	<title>Finally, what I've been waiting for.</title>
	<author>formfeed</author>
	<datestamp>1267641120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This new color will for sure bring the year of the linux desktop.
<p>
Maybe with some spiffy ads: <br>
"Hi my name is Bobby Jo, and Oohbantu 10.4 waz mine idea."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This new color will for sure bring the year of the linux desktop .
Maybe with some spiffy ads : " Hi my name is Bobby Jo , and Oohbantu 10.4 waz mine idea .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This new color will for sure bring the year of the linux desktop.
Maybe with some spiffy ads: 
"Hi my name is Bobby Jo, and Oohbantu 10.4 waz mine idea.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356246</id>
	<title>Re:I for one will miss the babysh*t brown color</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1267702800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Came here to hear someone missing the brown. Was not disappointed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Came here to hear someone missing the brown .
Was not disappointed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Came here to hear someone missing the brown.
Was not disappointed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353552</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31358206</id>
	<title>Re:Not an improvement.</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1267719900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It sounds like you have a clear notion of what would look better.  Is there some way you can demonstrate your ideas to the Ubuntu team in time for either 10.04 or 10.10?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds like you have a clear notion of what would look better .
Is there some way you can demonstrate your ideas to the Ubuntu team in time for either 10.04 or 10.10 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds like you have a clear notion of what would look better.
Is there some way you can demonstrate your ideas to the Ubuntu team in time for either 10.04 or 10.10?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354642</id>
	<title>from bad to ugly</title>
	<author>Shompol</author>
	<datestamp>1267639500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I frequently wipe Windows and install Ubuntu for fellow computer-illiterate folks. I say "this way it cannot get trojans, and games you dont care for anyways".<br>
The thing is to "sell" them the new operating system. If they do not like it for any reason, they will never agree to the switch again.<br>
Often the only change needed to base install is loosing the default brown background: do not want to scare away new "customers" early on.<br>
<br>
The brown background has to go, but the abomination they want to replace it with is unacceptable. Even posting a pretty background picture is not going to save the day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I frequently wipe Windows and install Ubuntu for fellow computer-illiterate folks .
I say " this way it can not get trojans , and games you dont care for anyways " .
The thing is to " sell " them the new operating system .
If they do not like it for any reason , they will never agree to the switch again .
Often the only change needed to base install is loosing the default brown background : do not want to scare away new " customers " early on .
The brown background has to go , but the abomination they want to replace it with is unacceptable .
Even posting a pretty background picture is not going to save the day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I frequently wipe Windows and install Ubuntu for fellow computer-illiterate folks.
I say "this way it cannot get trojans, and games you dont care for anyways".
The thing is to "sell" them the new operating system.
If they do not like it for any reason, they will never agree to the switch again.
Often the only change needed to base install is loosing the default brown background: do not want to scare away new "customers" early on.
The brown background has to go, but the abomination they want to replace it with is unacceptable.
Even posting a pretty background picture is not going to save the day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355354</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous</title>
	<author>WeatherGod</author>
	<datestamp>1267734420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I do.  It is rather nice and works great with the sunrise (sunset?) background that was available.  Along with the translucent boxes that are used for UNR, it looks very inviting and reassuring.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do .
It is rather nice and works great with the sunrise ( sunset ?
) background that was available .
Along with the translucent boxes that are used for UNR , it looks very inviting and reassuring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do.
It is rather nice and works great with the sunrise (sunset?
) background that was available.
Along with the translucent boxes that are used for UNR, it looks very inviting and reassuring.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353594</id>
	<title>Re:Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>vxice</author>
	<datestamp>1267629420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>all I want is an os that I can change and set the schemes as I like.  Seems like they only changed the wall paper anyways.</htmltext>
<tokenext>all I want is an os that I can change and set the schemes as I like .
Seems like they only changed the wall paper anyways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>all I want is an os that I can change and set the schemes as I like.
Seems like they only changed the wall paper anyways.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353850</id>
	<title>Re:Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>Shadow of Eternity</author>
	<datestamp>1267631100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only thing I found fuzzy about ubuntu, other than the documentation, was the text.</p><p>All I want from ubuntu is basic functionality, instead I need to spend more time reinstalling non-blurry fonts and shoveling in package after package than I would just reformatting windows and starting over again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only thing I found fuzzy about ubuntu , other than the documentation , was the text.All I want from ubuntu is basic functionality , instead I need to spend more time reinstalling non-blurry fonts and shoveling in package after package than I would just reformatting windows and starting over again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only thing I found fuzzy about ubuntu, other than the documentation, was the text.All I want from ubuntu is basic functionality, instead I need to spend more time reinstalling non-blurry fonts and shoveling in package after package than I would just reformatting windows and starting over again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353468</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353956</id>
	<title>Why move the window min/max/close buttons?!</title>
	<author>rbeattie</author>
	<datestamp>1267632060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Moving the default placement of the window min/max/close buttons is a really annoying change.<br><br>First, 95\% of the world uses Windows which will make any sort of transition that much harder for end-users.<br><br>Second, I like it the old way, dammit! (What? That's a valid argument...) I don't want to have to change the damn default window theme for every install of Ubuntu I use (and at this point that's three boxes - my main computer, my netbook and my media PC).<br><br>Grump, grump, grump. Get off my lawn.<br><br>-Russ</htmltext>
<tokenext>Moving the default placement of the window min/max/close buttons is a really annoying change.First , 95 \ % of the world uses Windows which will make any sort of transition that much harder for end-users.Second , I like it the old way , dammit !
( What ? That 's a valid argument... ) I do n't want to have to change the damn default window theme for every install of Ubuntu I use ( and at this point that 's three boxes - my main computer , my netbook and my media PC ) .Grump , grump , grump .
Get off my lawn.-Russ</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Moving the default placement of the window min/max/close buttons is a really annoying change.First, 95\% of the world uses Windows which will make any sort of transition that much harder for end-users.Second, I like it the old way, dammit!
(What? That's a valid argument...) I don't want to have to change the damn default window theme for every install of Ubuntu I use (and at this point that's three boxes - my main computer, my netbook and my media PC).Grump, grump, grump.
Get off my lawn.-Russ</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355048</id>
	<title>Re:I want KDE on Ubuntu by default...</title>
	<author>anshulajain</author>
	<datestamp>1267644360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>KDE 4.4 with all its bloated goodness in Akonadi and Nepomuk should be kept away from any distro that wants to have a relatively stable "unstabilty" in its releases.

KDE 4.4 blew it BIG time with hardwiring Akonadi to Kmail/Kontact. That said- I find GNOME to be a lot more sane...</htmltext>
<tokenext>KDE 4.4 with all its bloated goodness in Akonadi and Nepomuk should be kept away from any distro that wants to have a relatively stable " unstabilty " in its releases .
KDE 4.4 blew it BIG time with hardwiring Akonadi to Kmail/Kontact .
That said- I find GNOME to be a lot more sane.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>KDE 4.4 with all its bloated goodness in Akonadi and Nepomuk should be kept away from any distro that wants to have a relatively stable "unstabilty" in its releases.
KDE 4.4 blew it BIG time with hardwiring Akonadi to Kmail/Kontact.
That said- I find GNOME to be a lot more sane...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354836</id>
	<title>Re:Purple and orange?</title>
	<author>Luke has no name</author>
	<datestamp>1267641480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're going for the black vote.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're going for the black vote .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're going for the black vote.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353942</id>
	<title>Plum</title>
	<author>MrRobahtsu</author>
	<datestamp>1267631940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess I'll have to stop calling Ubuntu "Chocolate Linux" now.  Maybe Plum linux.  In my best Gay Blade voice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess I 'll have to stop calling Ubuntu " Chocolate Linux " now .
Maybe Plum linux .
In my best Gay Blade voice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess I'll have to stop calling Ubuntu "Chocolate Linux" now.
Maybe Plum linux.
In my best Gay Blade voice.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354742</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1267640460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>First, which side of the window, and for that matter the screen, are all of the menus on? That's right, the left-hand side. So why would you want to have to move your mouse a thousand pixels to close a window?</p></div><p>One obvious reason I can think of is because you don't want to miss "File", and accidentally click on "Close" instead.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Second, what is the most destructive operation you can perform on a window? Closing it. Why on earth are you beating your users over the head by putting the most destructive operation that close to the corner? When it's on the corner, it's much easier to hit by accident, for example when reaching to resize the window.</p></div><p>...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Every Mac user can immediately appreciate the position of the window controls, if they use them at all.</p> </div><p>Uh... guess where the Close Window button in OS X is?..</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>First , which side of the window , and for that matter the screen , are all of the menus on ?
That 's right , the left-hand side .
So why would you want to have to move your mouse a thousand pixels to close a window ? One obvious reason I can think of is because you do n't want to miss " File " , and accidentally click on " Close " instead.Second , what is the most destructive operation you can perform on a window ?
Closing it .
Why on earth are you beating your users over the head by putting the most destructive operation that close to the corner ?
When it 's on the corner , it 's much easier to hit by accident , for example when reaching to resize the window....Every Mac user can immediately appreciate the position of the window controls , if they use them at all .
Uh... guess where the Close Window button in OS X is ? . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, which side of the window, and for that matter the screen, are all of the menus on?
That's right, the left-hand side.
So why would you want to have to move your mouse a thousand pixels to close a window?One obvious reason I can think of is because you don't want to miss "File", and accidentally click on "Close" instead.Second, what is the most destructive operation you can perform on a window?
Closing it.
Why on earth are you beating your users over the head by putting the most destructive operation that close to the corner?
When it's on the corner, it's much easier to hit by accident, for example when reaching to resize the window....Every Mac user can immediately appreciate the position of the window controls, if they use them at all.
Uh... guess where the Close Window button in OS X is?..
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353622</id>
	<title>Coral link to this:</title>
	<author>Announcer</author>
	<datestamp>1267629660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like the server's starting to buckle under the Slashdot Effect!</p><p>Here is the CORAL link to the page with screenshots:</p><p><a href="http://www.jonobacon.org.nyud.net/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/" title="nyud.net">http://www.jonobacon.org.nyud.net/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/</a> [nyud.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like the server 's starting to buckle under the Slashdot Effect ! Here is the CORAL link to the page with screenshots : http : //www.jonobacon.org.nyud.net/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/ [ nyud.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like the server's starting to buckle under the Slashdot Effect!Here is the CORAL link to the page with screenshots:http://www.jonobacon.org.nyud.net/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/ [nyud.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356764</id>
	<title>Looks like OSX</title>
	<author>Pec</author>
	<datestamp>1267709640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My first impression is that, looks like OSX.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My first impression is that , looks like OSX .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My first impression is that, looks like OSX.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31362618</id>
	<title>A lot of fuss...</title>
	<author>burbilog</author>
	<datestamp>1267697460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...but what about fixing that f.. networkmanager instead? It's still broken in many ways.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but what about fixing that f.. networkmanager instead ?
It 's still broken in many ways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but what about fixing that f.. networkmanager instead?
It's still broken in many ways.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357606</id>
	<title>Everyone who knows how changes the theme</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267716000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But there are folks who don't know how or who see crappy screenshots in tutorials on how to install and use and are immediately turned off.  Yes, part of the reason we've never had "the year of the Linux desktop" is due to ugly and Ubuntu has it in spades.  So I hope they change stuff, in fact they might even want an applet that lets people choose from a couple supported themes to come up right away after install.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But there are folks who do n't know how or who see crappy screenshots in tutorials on how to install and use and are immediately turned off .
Yes , part of the reason we 've never had " the year of the Linux desktop " is due to ugly and Ubuntu has it in spades .
So I hope they change stuff , in fact they might even want an applet that lets people choose from a couple supported themes to come up right away after install .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But there are folks who don't know how or who see crappy screenshots in tutorials on how to install and use and are immediately turned off.
Yes, part of the reason we've never had "the year of the Linux desktop" is due to ugly and Ubuntu has it in spades.
So I hope they change stuff, in fact they might even want an applet that lets people choose from a couple supported themes to come up right away after install.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31357570</id>
	<title>Ripping off OS X aims for the wrong audience</title>
	<author>AtlantaSteve</author>
	<datestamp>1267715760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I could care less about the default color scheme for Ubuntu.  I spend 99\% of my time looking at a maximized application window, so the only part of the theme I stare at much is the window's title bar anyway.  Besides, if I didn't like the color theme I could just right-click on the desktop, and switch to some other theme with a single click.  Ubuntu comes with more than a half-dozen themes out of the box.</p><p>However, what I DO care about are the window control buttons being converted from Windows-style (top right corner) to OS X-style (top left corner).  I HAVEN'T seen any easy one-click config option for controlling THAT in Ubuntu.  People can debate back-and-forth which which style is superior.  Some say the Mac style is more ergonomic, because the mouse cursor spends more time on the left where the menus are.  I say that Windows style is superior, because I'm less likely to close the window by accident every time I go for the "Edit" menu (grr!).  However, all that debate would miss a key point... which is that OS X users are the wrong target audience to woo.</p><ul>
<li>Linux desktop environments have long been approximating Windows for two main reasons:<ol> <li>That's the interface most familiar to 95+ percent of users.  People coming to your environment for the first time will be instantly familiar with the core basics.</li><li>Linux can outperform that interface and make users say "Oh wow, this is actually cooler!".</li></ol></li><li>Trying instead to approximate the OS X style is a mistake because:<ol> <li>While trendy these days, it's still only familiar to a single-digit percentage of people.  You're reducing that instant familiarity for the overwhelming majority of first-time users.</li><li>Mac users are NOT going to say that Linux has a better interface.  You are absolutely wasting your time trying to woo them or snipe them away from Apple.</li></ol></li></ul><p>Basically, I see all downside and zero upside in tampering with the window control buttons to be more Mac-ish.  This really is a much bigger change than just the color scheme, and I'm a bit puzzled why it's mostly flying below the radar while everyone argues purple vs. brown.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could care less about the default color scheme for Ubuntu .
I spend 99 \ % of my time looking at a maximized application window , so the only part of the theme I stare at much is the window 's title bar anyway .
Besides , if I did n't like the color theme I could just right-click on the desktop , and switch to some other theme with a single click .
Ubuntu comes with more than a half-dozen themes out of the box.However , what I DO care about are the window control buttons being converted from Windows-style ( top right corner ) to OS X-style ( top left corner ) .
I HAVE N'T seen any easy one-click config option for controlling THAT in Ubuntu .
People can debate back-and-forth which which style is superior .
Some say the Mac style is more ergonomic , because the mouse cursor spends more time on the left where the menus are .
I say that Windows style is superior , because I 'm less likely to close the window by accident every time I go for the " Edit " menu ( grr ! ) .
However , all that debate would miss a key point... which is that OS X users are the wrong target audience to woo .
Linux desktop environments have long been approximating Windows for two main reasons : That 's the interface most familiar to 95 + percent of users .
People coming to your environment for the first time will be instantly familiar with the core basics.Linux can outperform that interface and make users say " Oh wow , this is actually cooler !
" .Trying instead to approximate the OS X style is a mistake because : While trendy these days , it 's still only familiar to a single-digit percentage of people .
You 're reducing that instant familiarity for the overwhelming majority of first-time users.Mac users are NOT going to say that Linux has a better interface .
You are absolutely wasting your time trying to woo them or snipe them away from Apple.Basically , I see all downside and zero upside in tampering with the window control buttons to be more Mac-ish .
This really is a much bigger change than just the color scheme , and I 'm a bit puzzled why it 's mostly flying below the radar while everyone argues purple vs. brown .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could care less about the default color scheme for Ubuntu.
I spend 99\% of my time looking at a maximized application window, so the only part of the theme I stare at much is the window's title bar anyway.
Besides, if I didn't like the color theme I could just right-click on the desktop, and switch to some other theme with a single click.
Ubuntu comes with more than a half-dozen themes out of the box.However, what I DO care about are the window control buttons being converted from Windows-style (top right corner) to OS X-style (top left corner).
I HAVEN'T seen any easy one-click config option for controlling THAT in Ubuntu.
People can debate back-and-forth which which style is superior.
Some say the Mac style is more ergonomic, because the mouse cursor spends more time on the left where the menus are.
I say that Windows style is superior, because I'm less likely to close the window by accident every time I go for the "Edit" menu (grr!).
However, all that debate would miss a key point... which is that OS X users are the wrong target audience to woo.
Linux desktop environments have long been approximating Windows for two main reasons: That's the interface most familiar to 95+ percent of users.
People coming to your environment for the first time will be instantly familiar with the core basics.Linux can outperform that interface and make users say "Oh wow, this is actually cooler!
".Trying instead to approximate the OS X style is a mistake because: While trendy these days, it's still only familiar to a single-digit percentage of people.
You're reducing that instant familiarity for the overwhelming majority of first-time users.Mac users are NOT going to say that Linux has a better interface.
You are absolutely wasting your time trying to woo them or snipe them away from Apple.Basically, I see all downside and zero upside in tampering with the window control buttons to be more Mac-ish.
This really is a much bigger change than just the color scheme, and I'm a bit puzzled why it's mostly flying below the radar while everyone argues purple vs. brown.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355832</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>dominious</author>
	<datestamp>1267697400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From my HCI course I remember that consistency is important. Changing the position of the window control buttons is not consistent and users don't like it. We get used to one thing and then they decide to change it. Damn.
<br> <br>And as others have pointed out, this is going to cause a lot of mis-clicks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From my HCI course I remember that consistency is important .
Changing the position of the window control buttons is not consistent and users do n't like it .
We get used to one thing and then they decide to change it .
Damn . And as others have pointed out , this is going to cause a lot of mis-clicks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From my HCI course I remember that consistency is important.
Changing the position of the window control buttons is not consistent and users don't like it.
We get used to one thing and then they decide to change it.
Damn.
 And as others have pointed out, this is going to cause a lot of mis-clicks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353728</id>
	<title>New theme</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267630380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ubuntu gets a new theme and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>./ STILL uses the Debian icon?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu gets a new theme and ./ STILL uses the Debian icon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu gets a new theme and ./ STILL uses the Debian icon?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353520</id>
	<title>nice to see</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267628940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>First off... first post!

Second, we ubuntu users have been able to customize our desktop through themes as long as gnome has been around. There are many ways to slap some eye-candy onto you GUI if you choose, but I for one am glad to see a new look. I think ubuntu needs to look fresh for the less techie out there. People are very visual weather they want to admit it or not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>First off... first post !
Second , we ubuntu users have been able to customize our desktop through themes as long as gnome has been around .
There are many ways to slap some eye-candy onto you GUI if you choose , but I for one am glad to see a new look .
I think ubuntu needs to look fresh for the less techie out there .
People are very visual weather they want to admit it or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First off... first post!
Second, we ubuntu users have been able to customize our desktop through themes as long as gnome has been around.
There are many ways to slap some eye-candy onto you GUI if you choose, but I for one am glad to see a new look.
I think ubuntu needs to look fresh for the less techie out there.
People are very visual weather they want to admit it or not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354054</id>
	<title>Re:Nooo go backkkk</title>
	<author>linhares</author>
	<datestamp>1267632840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is a community website.  Steve Ballmer, sir, you are out of order.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a community website .
Steve Ballmer , sir , you are out of order .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a community website.
Steve Ballmer, sir, you are out of order.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353468</id>
	<title>Orange and purple are more professional?</title>
	<author>JustinFreid</author>
	<datestamp>1267628700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is professionalism a virtue? I like the notion of Ubuntu as being warm and fuzzy, especially with the adjective+animal names for the releases.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is professionalism a virtue ?
I like the notion of Ubuntu as being warm and fuzzy , especially with the adjective + animal names for the releases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is professionalism a virtue?
I like the notion of Ubuntu as being warm and fuzzy, especially with the adjective+animal names for the releases.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31366008</id>
	<title>Re:About Time</title>
	<author>honkycat</author>
	<datestamp>1267714620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ick, is that all?  As I said, I took a really quick look.  If they really did that to the close button.. wtf is all I can say.  I've converted to OSX recently and the transition to buttons on the left wasn't so bad, but I agree with the other guy here---it's got to be a corner.  Oh well...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ick , is that all ?
As I said , I took a really quick look .
If they really did that to the close button.. wtf is all I can say .
I 've converted to OSX recently and the transition to buttons on the left was n't so bad , but I agree with the other guy here---it 's got to be a corner .
Oh well.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ick, is that all?
As I said, I took a really quick look.
If they really did that to the close button.. wtf is all I can say.
I've converted to OSX recently and the transition to buttons on the left wasn't so bad, but I agree with the other guy here---it's got to be a corner.
Oh well...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31358382</id>
	<title>What profession...</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1267720800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..ah say, what profession, deems brown unprofessional and orange and aubergine professional? Are they serious?</p><p>Yes, clearly, the color scheme has been holding Ubuntu back... riiighhhtt. And if they're changing it, couldn't they choose a background that says something to me other than "dude, your monitor needs degaussing"... yeah, I'm on LCDs too, but that background has to go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..ah say , what profession , deems brown unprofessional and orange and aubergine professional ?
Are they serious ? Yes , clearly , the color scheme has been holding Ubuntu back... riiighhhtt. And if they 're changing it , could n't they choose a background that says something to me other than " dude , your monitor needs degaussing " ... yeah , I 'm on LCDs too , but that background has to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..ah say, what profession, deems brown unprofessional and orange and aubergine professional?
Are they serious?Yes, clearly, the color scheme has been holding Ubuntu back... riiighhhtt. And if they're changing it, couldn't they choose a background that says something to me other than "dude, your monitor needs degaussing"... yeah, I'm on LCDs too, but that background has to go.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355948</id>
	<title>Stop locking it down!!!</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1267698780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every time I upgrade, I see more options gone, more choices taken away, more things that were customizable getting fixed one way.</p><p>If the fear is "users will be confused", give them an "advanced" checkbox to hide these options, don't remove them!</p><p>You want to avoid "confusing"?<br>I right-click on Panel and see all customization options disabled.<br>Then I spend next 2 days looking first through config options, then through installable configurators, then through raw config files, then through a hundred different Internet fora, then through the sources of the package, to get them enabled. Now THIS is confusing!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every time I upgrade , I see more options gone , more choices taken away , more things that were customizable getting fixed one way.If the fear is " users will be confused " , give them an " advanced " checkbox to hide these options , do n't remove them ! You want to avoid " confusing " ? I right-click on Panel and see all customization options disabled.Then I spend next 2 days looking first through config options , then through installable configurators , then through raw config files , then through a hundred different Internet fora , then through the sources of the package , to get them enabled .
Now THIS is confusing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every time I upgrade, I see more options gone, more choices taken away, more things that were customizable getting fixed one way.If the fear is "users will be confused", give them an "advanced" checkbox to hide these options, don't remove them!You want to avoid "confusing"?I right-click on Panel and see all customization options disabled.Then I spend next 2 days looking first through config options, then through installable configurators, then through raw config files, then through a hundred different Internet fora, then through the sources of the package, to get them enabled.
Now THIS is confusing!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354616</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267639140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"you usually don't have to use them" ???</p><p>I don't understand, I use these button constantly (win and lin) how else do you close an application Alt+F4, File-&gt;Close, Menubar-&gt;Rightclick\_&gt;Close.  Too much like hard work for me compared to "click"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" you usually do n't have to use them " ? ?
? I do n't understand , I use these button constantly ( win and lin ) how else do you close an application Alt + F4 , File- &gt; Close , Menubar- &gt; Rightclick \ _ &gt; Close .
Too much like hard work for me compared to " click "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"you usually don't have to use them" ??
?I don't understand, I use these button constantly (win and lin) how else do you close an application Alt+F4, File-&gt;Close, Menubar-&gt;Rightclick\_&gt;Close.
Too much like hard work for me compared to "click"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31356716</id>
	<title>Brown and orange is like the savanna of Africa</title>
	<author>dovgr</author>
	<datestamp>1267708980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A shame, I liked the brownish look. It reminded me of the savanna of Africa, the origin of Ubuntu. I thought they should have gone even further with the African theme by making sound events by tom-tom drums, other African music, or perhaps even jungle sounds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A shame , I liked the brownish look .
It reminded me of the savanna of Africa , the origin of Ubuntu .
I thought they should have gone even further with the African theme by making sound events by tom-tom drums , other African music , or perhaps even jungle sounds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A shame, I liked the brownish look.
It reminded me of the savanna of Africa, the origin of Ubuntu.
I thought they should have gone even further with the African theme by making sound events by tom-tom drums, other African music, or perhaps even jungle sounds.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354468</id>
	<title>Stupid button placement.</title>
	<author>Stormwatch</author>
	<datestamp>1267637640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really mean STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!</p><p>If you're going to copy the Mac, at least copy from the *classic* Mac system, which was better designed in this aspect: the close button was in the top left corner of the window, but the zoom and collapse buttons were in the top right corner.</p><p>Why? The button that performs the more consequential / less reversible / potentially annoying action (=closing a window) must be separated from the ones that perform less serious ones (=resizing or hiding its content).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really mean STUPID , STUPID , STUPID ! If you 're going to copy the Mac , at least copy from the * classic * Mac system , which was better designed in this aspect : the close button was in the top left corner of the window , but the zoom and collapse buttons were in the top right corner.Why ?
The button that performs the more consequential / less reversible / potentially annoying action ( = closing a window ) must be separated from the ones that perform less serious ones ( = resizing or hiding its content ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really mean STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!If you're going to copy the Mac, at least copy from the *classic* Mac system, which was better designed in this aspect: the close button was in the top left corner of the window, but the zoom and collapse buttons were in the top right corner.Why?
The button that performs the more consequential / less reversible / potentially annoying action (=closing a window) must be separated from the ones that perform less serious ones (=resizing or hiding its content).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354064</id>
	<title>Re:nice to see</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267633080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet you used to write reports in school like this:</p><p>"Thomas Jefferson.  Thomas Jefferson was a great man.  He did many interesting things.  One of the things he did was be president.  He also lived in Virginia.  Among the things he did in Virginia..."</p><p>Fucking retard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet you used to write reports in school like this : " Thomas Jefferson .
Thomas Jefferson was a great man .
He did many interesting things .
One of the things he did was be president .
He also lived in Virginia .
Among the things he did in Virginia... " Fucking retard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet you used to write reports in school like this:"Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson was a great man.
He did many interesting things.
One of the things he did was be president.
He also lived in Virginia.
Among the things he did in Virginia..."Fucking retard.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31359188</id>
	<title>It's not that it's orange and purple necessarily..</title>
	<author>Old Man Kensey</author>
	<datestamp>1267724460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...but did they have to pick the <i>worst possible</i> shades of purple for the wallpaper?  It's not a "light" pastel wallpaper, it's not a bright, energetic wallpaper or a deeply-, richly-colored wallpaper.  It'a wallpaper that looks like it's sat in a corner fading in the sun for a year or two, at least on my screen.</p><p>

One of the things I like about Windows 7/Vista is the more aesthetically-pleasing colors in the default theme compared to XP.  Hell, half the reason I first installed compiz + emerald years ago was because the themes I saw in screenshots looked bright and inviting as opposed to the themes included with Ubuntu.  (OK, and because the desktop cube and wobbly windows are AWESOME SQUARED.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...but did they have to pick the worst possible shades of purple for the wallpaper ?
It 's not a " light " pastel wallpaper , it 's not a bright , energetic wallpaper or a deeply- , richly-colored wallpaper .
It'a wallpaper that looks like it 's sat in a corner fading in the sun for a year or two , at least on my screen .
One of the things I like about Windows 7/Vista is the more aesthetically-pleasing colors in the default theme compared to XP .
Hell , half the reason I first installed compiz + emerald years ago was because the themes I saw in screenshots looked bright and inviting as opposed to the themes included with Ubuntu .
( OK , and because the desktop cube and wobbly windows are AWESOME SQUARED .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but did they have to pick the worst possible shades of purple for the wallpaper?
It's not a "light" pastel wallpaper, it's not a bright, energetic wallpaper or a deeply-, richly-colored wallpaper.
It'a wallpaper that looks like it's sat in a corner fading in the sun for a year or two, at least on my screen.
One of the things I like about Windows 7/Vista is the more aesthetically-pleasing colors in the default theme compared to XP.
Hell, half the reason I first installed compiz + emerald years ago was because the themes I saw in screenshots looked bright and inviting as opposed to the themes included with Ubuntu.
(OK, and because the desktop cube and wobbly windows are AWESOME SQUARED.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31353452</id>
	<title>Still brown...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267628520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing to see here... move along</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing to see here... move along</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing to see here... move along</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354558</id>
	<title>And why is this news?</title>
	<author>nataflux</author>
	<datestamp>1267638480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can change the colors of your windows and your entire GUI in gnome, in fact those i know who run ubuntu have their interface completely customized.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can change the colors of your windows and your entire GUI in gnome , in fact those i know who run ubuntu have their interface completely customized .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can change the colors of your windows and your entire GUI in gnome, in fact those i know who run ubuntu have their interface completely customized.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31354272</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>ciroknight</author>
	<datestamp>1267635360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The window controls are <b>precisely where they should be</b>.
<br> <br>
First, which side of the window, and for that matter the screen, are all of the menus on? That's right, the left-hand side. So why would you want to have to move your mouse a thousand pixels to close a window?
<br> <br>
Second, what is the most destructive operation you can perform on a window? Closing it. Why on earth are you beating your users over the head by putting the most destructive operation that close to the corner? When it's on the corner, it's much easier to hit by accident, for example when reaching to resize the window. This has happened time and again with me on Windows to the point of absolute fury
<br> <br>
What's the least destructive operation that still gets the window out of your line of sight? Minimize. If you hit it on accident, it takes you maybe a few hundred pixels to reach down, or up if you're like me, to restore the window. Unlike if it's closed by accident, which can take minutes to restore if it was a large networked word processing file.
<br> <br>
Every Mac user can immediately appreciate the position of the window controls, if they use them at all. They are clearly colored for improved accuracy, they're out of the way, and what's even better, you usually don't have to use them, since OS X's Expose is so much more convenient, even more so than Compiz, anyways. The only reason not to switch is because of existing Windows users, and we stated a long time ago that Ubuntu isn't Windows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The window controls are precisely where they should be .
First , which side of the window , and for that matter the screen , are all of the menus on ?
That 's right , the left-hand side .
So why would you want to have to move your mouse a thousand pixels to close a window ?
Second , what is the most destructive operation you can perform on a window ?
Closing it .
Why on earth are you beating your users over the head by putting the most destructive operation that close to the corner ?
When it 's on the corner , it 's much easier to hit by accident , for example when reaching to resize the window .
This has happened time and again with me on Windows to the point of absolute fury What 's the least destructive operation that still gets the window out of your line of sight ?
Minimize. If you hit it on accident , it takes you maybe a few hundred pixels to reach down , or up if you 're like me , to restore the window .
Unlike if it 's closed by accident , which can take minutes to restore if it was a large networked word processing file .
Every Mac user can immediately appreciate the position of the window controls , if they use them at all .
They are clearly colored for improved accuracy , they 're out of the way , and what 's even better , you usually do n't have to use them , since OS X 's Expose is so much more convenient , even more so than Compiz , anyways .
The only reason not to switch is because of existing Windows users , and we stated a long time ago that Ubuntu is n't Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The window controls are precisely where they should be.
First, which side of the window, and for that matter the screen, are all of the menus on?
That's right, the left-hand side.
So why would you want to have to move your mouse a thousand pixels to close a window?
Second, what is the most destructive operation you can perform on a window?
Closing it.
Why on earth are you beating your users over the head by putting the most destructive operation that close to the corner?
When it's on the corner, it's much easier to hit by accident, for example when reaching to resize the window.
This has happened time and again with me on Windows to the point of absolute fury
 
What's the least destructive operation that still gets the window out of your line of sight?
Minimize. If you hit it on accident, it takes you maybe a few hundred pixels to reach down, or up if you're like me, to restore the window.
Unlike if it's closed by accident, which can take minutes to restore if it was a large networked word processing file.
Every Mac user can immediately appreciate the position of the window controls, if they use them at all.
They are clearly colored for improved accuracy, they're out of the way, and what's even better, you usually don't have to use them, since OS X's Expose is so much more convenient, even more so than Compiz, anyways.
The only reason not to switch is because of existing Windows users, and we stated a long time ago that Ubuntu isn't Windows.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_2313234.31355626</id>
	<title>Re:this is going to suck</title>
	<author>ciroknight</author>
	<datestamp>1267694760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One obvious reason I can think of is because you don't want to miss "File", and accidentally click on "Close" instead.</p></div><p>
On my layout, which is similar to the ones in the screenshot, the X is somewhere between "Edit" and "View". To miss either of these and hit the X would be significantly less likely than trying to grab a corner and hitting the X; I know this from both my own experiences, from pixel distances, from the interface highlighting menu items on mouse-in and from Fitts' law which states that items within a window are more likely to be hit precisely since the user need to pay more attention to hitting it, rather than corners, where users are more often less attentive and would rather "ram" their mouse to the right position.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Uh... guess where the Close Window button in OS X is?..</p></div><p>
On the correct side of the window, but in the incorrect position. However, with the button being red and expose, the likelihood you'd accidentally hit it is significantly diminished from, say, Windows.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One obvious reason I can think of is because you do n't want to miss " File " , and accidentally click on " Close " instead .
On my layout , which is similar to the ones in the screenshot , the X is somewhere between " Edit " and " View " .
To miss either of these and hit the X would be significantly less likely than trying to grab a corner and hitting the X ; I know this from both my own experiences , from pixel distances , from the interface highlighting menu items on mouse-in and from Fitts ' law which states that items within a window are more likely to be hit precisely since the user need to pay more attention to hitting it , rather than corners , where users are more often less attentive and would rather " ram " their mouse to the right position.Uh... guess where the Close Window button in OS X is ? . .
On the correct side of the window , but in the incorrect position .
However , with the button being red and expose , the likelihood you 'd accidentally hit it is significantly diminished from , say , Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One obvious reason I can think of is because you don't want to miss "File", and accidentally click on "Close" instead.
On my layout, which is similar to the ones in the screenshot, the X is somewhere between "Edit" and "View".
To miss either of these and hit the X would be significantly less likely than trying to grab a corner and hitting the X; I know this from both my own experiences, from pixel distances, from the interface highlighting menu items on mouse-in and from Fitts' law which states that items within a window are more likely to be hit precisely since the user need to pay more attention to hitting it, rather than corners, where users are more often less attentive and would rather "ram" their mouse to the right position.Uh... guess where the Close Window button in OS X is?..
On the correct side of the window, but in the incorrect position.
However, with the button being red and expose, the likelihood you'd accidentally hit it is significantly diminished from, say, Windows.
	</sentencetext>
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