<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_01_0035243</id>
	<title>Killer Apartment Vs. Persistent Microwave Exposure?</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1267441260000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"I am considering buying a penthouse apartment in Manhattan that happens to be about twenty feet away from a pair of panel antennas belonging to a major cellular carrier. The antennas are on roughly the same plane as the apartment and point in its direction. I have sifted through a lot of information online about cell towers, most of which suggest that the radiation they emit is low-level and benign. Most of this information, however, seems to concern ground-level exposure at non-regular intervals. My question to Slashdot is: should the prospect of persistent exposure to microwave radiation from this pair of antennas sitting twenty feet from where I rest my head worry me? Am I just being a jackass? Can I, perhaps, line the walls of the place with a tight metal mesh and thereby deflect the radiation?  My background is in computer engineering &mdash; I am not particularly knowledgeable about the physics of devices such as these. Please help me make an enlightened decision."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " I am considering buying a penthouse apartment in Manhattan that happens to be about twenty feet away from a pair of panel antennas belonging to a major cellular carrier .
The antennas are on roughly the same plane as the apartment and point in its direction .
I have sifted through a lot of information online about cell towers , most of which suggest that the radiation they emit is low-level and benign .
Most of this information , however , seems to concern ground-level exposure at non-regular intervals .
My question to Slashdot is : should the prospect of persistent exposure to microwave radiation from this pair of antennas sitting twenty feet from where I rest my head worry me ?
Am I just being a jackass ?
Can I , perhaps , line the walls of the place with a tight metal mesh and thereby deflect the radiation ?
My background is in computer engineering    I am not particularly knowledgeable about the physics of devices such as these .
Please help me make an enlightened decision .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "I am considering buying a penthouse apartment in Manhattan that happens to be about twenty feet away from a pair of panel antennas belonging to a major cellular carrier.
The antennas are on roughly the same plane as the apartment and point in its direction.
I have sifted through a lot of information online about cell towers, most of which suggest that the radiation they emit is low-level and benign.
Most of this information, however, seems to concern ground-level exposure at non-regular intervals.
My question to Slashdot is: should the prospect of persistent exposure to microwave radiation from this pair of antennas sitting twenty feet from where I rest my head worry me?
Am I just being a jackass?
Can I, perhaps, line the walls of the place with a tight metal mesh and thereby deflect the radiation?
My background is in computer engineering — I am not particularly knowledgeable about the physics of devices such as these.
Please help me make an enlightened decision.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318796</id>
	<title>Richly rewarding</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267468860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you can afford to buy a penthouse apartment in Manhattan, then by all means you should buy this one. Especially this one. Enjoy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can afford to buy a penthouse apartment in Manhattan , then by all means you should buy this one .
Especially this one .
Enjoy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can afford to buy a penthouse apartment in Manhattan, then by all means you should buy this one.
Especially this one.
Enjoy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320282</id>
	<title>Have a ham radio operator do an RF safety survey.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267474740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look up your local amateur radio clubs and find a ham radio operator who knows how to do a RF exposure survey and ask them to do one at your apartment because of your concern. Many hams know how to do these, and they'll probably be happy to do it for free because someone appreciates their skill and knowledge.</p><p>The FCC has exact requirements on RF safety, and I'm completely comfortable that your apartment is safe from harmful radiation. See the ARRL's Web page on RF safety at<br>http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/rfexpose.html<br>Scroll down and download the articles that look interesting (I'm logged in as a member, but I'm assuming these articles are available to non-members). You can read up on the rules yourself and be knowledgeable when you talk to the hams.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look up your local amateur radio clubs and find a ham radio operator who knows how to do a RF exposure survey and ask them to do one at your apartment because of your concern .
Many hams know how to do these , and they 'll probably be happy to do it for free because someone appreciates their skill and knowledge.The FCC has exact requirements on RF safety , and I 'm completely comfortable that your apartment is safe from harmful radiation .
See the ARRL 's Web page on RF safety athttp : //www.arrl.org/t is/info/rfexpose.htmlScroll down and download the articles that look interesting ( I 'm logged in as a member , but I 'm assuming these articles are available to non-members ) .
You can read up on the rules yourself and be knowledgeable when you talk to the hams .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look up your local amateur radio clubs and find a ham radio operator who knows how to do a RF exposure survey and ask them to do one at your apartment because of your concern.
Many hams know how to do these, and they'll probably be happy to do it for free because someone appreciates their skill and knowledge.The FCC has exact requirements on RF safety, and I'm completely comfortable that your apartment is safe from harmful radiation.
See the ARRL's Web page on RF safety athttp://www.arrl.org/tis/info/rfexpose.htmlScroll down and download the articles that look interesting (I'm logged in as a member, but I'm assuming these articles are available to non-members).
You can read up on the rules yourself and be knowledgeable when you talk to the hams.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320046</id>
	<title>Re:You can afford</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267473720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live in a 6 story U-shaped building. Being on the top floor and having cellular antennae pointed at the unit is not improbable. Our building has them in rack arrays along all the roof edges of the building and the side corner edges. More antennae = more $ for the building management.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in a 6 story U-shaped building .
Being on the top floor and having cellular antennae pointed at the unit is not improbable .
Our building has them in rack arrays along all the roof edges of the building and the side corner edges .
More antennae = more $ for the building management .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in a 6 story U-shaped building.
Being on the top floor and having cellular antennae pointed at the unit is not improbable.
Our building has them in rack arrays along all the roof edges of the building and the side corner edges.
More antennae = more $ for the building management.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318782</id>
	<title>Read the regulations</title>
	<author>leighklotz</author>
	<datestamp>1267468800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's a link to the FCC and OET regulations that the cell company has to comply with.<br>If there are multiple antennas from different installations, they have to take those into account too.</p><p><a href="http://www.fcc.gov/oet/rfsafety/" title="fcc.gov">http://www.fcc.gov/oet/rfsafety/</a> [fcc.gov]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a link to the FCC and OET regulations that the cell company has to comply with.If there are multiple antennas from different installations , they have to take those into account too.http : //www.fcc.gov/oet/rfsafety/ [ fcc.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a link to the FCC and OET regulations that the cell company has to comply with.If there are multiple antennas from different installations, they have to take those into account too.http://www.fcc.gov/oet/rfsafety/ [fcc.gov]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315626</id>
	<title>Are you crazy?</title>
	<author>JustNiz</author>
	<datestamp>1267457460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why are you even considering buying this place? Its an obvious problem.<br>As well as all the likely serious health hazards such as frequent migraines and increased risk of cancer, it will be a bitch to ever sell again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are you even considering buying this place ?
Its an obvious problem.As well as all the likely serious health hazards such as frequent migraines and increased risk of cancer , it will be a bitch to ever sell again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are you even considering buying this place?
Its an obvious problem.As well as all the likely serious health hazards such as frequent migraines and increased risk of cancer, it will be a bitch to ever sell again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313946</id>
	<title>cell tower next to village</title>
	<author>tokul</author>
	<datestamp>1267446180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Mobile company raised cell tower next to some village. Locals complained about health problems caused by this tower. When contacted cell company CEO replied:<br>
- That's nothing. Wait and see what happens when we turn it on.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mobile company raised cell tower next to some village .
Locals complained about health problems caused by this tower .
When contacted cell company CEO replied : - That 's nothing .
Wait and see what happens when we turn it on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Mobile company raised cell tower next to some village.
Locals complained about health problems caused by this tower.
When contacted cell company CEO replied:
- That's nothing.
Wait and see what happens when we turn it on.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315544</id>
	<title>Probably fine</title>
	<author>VeriTea</author>
	<datestamp>1267457160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am a PE and have done hundreds of RF emissions studies on wireless facilities, including rooftop installations like the one you describe.  My initial thought is that twenty feet would be an unusually small distance between the antennas and your window.  It may very well be much larger then that (50' or more is more likely - and would have much lower emission levels) but seems closer due to the perspective of the surrounding panoramic view.  If it were truly only 20', and the building hosted antenna arrays from many wireless carriers (and FM transmitters), then there is a very slight possibility that the levels in your apartment could be near the public exposure limit.  This situation is quite unlikely however.  Most wireless carriers have an independent RF emissions study performed on rooftop installations that include measurements of the pre-existing antennas, so if you reached the right person and were persuasive enough you might be able to get them to share that with you (very unlikely).

Another poster recommended a cheap meter.  I'm not convinced of their accuracy, but you could give it a try if it worries you.  Someone else mentioned low-E glass and correctly stated that it blocks a significant amount of RF energy.  If you have low-e glass then even 20' away would mean your apartment is below the public exposure limit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a PE and have done hundreds of RF emissions studies on wireless facilities , including rooftop installations like the one you describe .
My initial thought is that twenty feet would be an unusually small distance between the antennas and your window .
It may very well be much larger then that ( 50 ' or more is more likely - and would have much lower emission levels ) but seems closer due to the perspective of the surrounding panoramic view .
If it were truly only 20 ' , and the building hosted antenna arrays from many wireless carriers ( and FM transmitters ) , then there is a very slight possibility that the levels in your apartment could be near the public exposure limit .
This situation is quite unlikely however .
Most wireless carriers have an independent RF emissions study performed on rooftop installations that include measurements of the pre-existing antennas , so if you reached the right person and were persuasive enough you might be able to get them to share that with you ( very unlikely ) .
Another poster recommended a cheap meter .
I 'm not convinced of their accuracy , but you could give it a try if it worries you .
Someone else mentioned low-E glass and correctly stated that it blocks a significant amount of RF energy .
If you have low-e glass then even 20 ' away would mean your apartment is below the public exposure limit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a PE and have done hundreds of RF emissions studies on wireless facilities, including rooftop installations like the one you describe.
My initial thought is that twenty feet would be an unusually small distance between the antennas and your window.
It may very well be much larger then that (50' or more is more likely - and would have much lower emission levels) but seems closer due to the perspective of the surrounding panoramic view.
If it were truly only 20', and the building hosted antenna arrays from many wireless carriers (and FM transmitters), then there is a very slight possibility that the levels in your apartment could be near the public exposure limit.
This situation is quite unlikely however.
Most wireless carriers have an independent RF emissions study performed on rooftop installations that include measurements of the pre-existing antennas, so if you reached the right person and were persuasive enough you might be able to get them to share that with you (very unlikely).
Another poster recommended a cheap meter.
I'm not convinced of their accuracy, but you could give it a try if it worries you.
Someone else mentioned low-E glass and correctly stated that it blocks a significant amount of RF energy.
If you have low-e glass then even 20' away would mean your apartment is below the public exposure limit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316504</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267460460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You will be exposed to much higher power levels than the person on the street and should be taking the same precautions as telephone company maintenance workers, who are advised to not expose themselves to the beam!  At that very close distance your primary health risk will be microwave induced cataracts.  Here is a quote from the World Health Organization on the subject.  Quote can be found at:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; http://www.who.int/peh-emf/about/WhatisEMF/en/index1.html</p><p>Cataracts<br>General eye irritation and cataracts have sometimes been reported in workers exposed to high levels of radiofrequency and microwave radiation, but animal studies do not support the idea that such forms of eye damage can be produced at levels that are not thermally hazardous. There is no evidence that these effects occur at levels experienced by the general public.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You will be exposed to much higher power levels than the person on the street and should be taking the same precautions as telephone company maintenance workers , who are advised to not expose themselves to the beam !
At that very close distance your primary health risk will be microwave induced cataracts .
Here is a quote from the World Health Organization on the subject .
Quote can be found at :       http : //www.who.int/peh-emf/about/WhatisEMF/en/index1.htmlCataractsGeneral eye irritation and cataracts have sometimes been reported in workers exposed to high levels of radiofrequency and microwave radiation , but animal studies do not support the idea that such forms of eye damage can be produced at levels that are not thermally hazardous .
There is no evidence that these effects occur at levels experienced by the general public .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You will be exposed to much higher power levels than the person on the street and should be taking the same precautions as telephone company maintenance workers, who are advised to not expose themselves to the beam!
At that very close distance your primary health risk will be microwave induced cataracts.
Here is a quote from the World Health Organization on the subject.
Quote can be found at:
      http://www.who.int/peh-emf/about/WhatisEMF/en/index1.htmlCataractsGeneral eye irritation and cataracts have sometimes been reported in workers exposed to high levels of radiofrequency and microwave radiation, but animal studies do not support the idea that such forms of eye damage can be produced at levels that are not thermally hazardous.
There is no evidence that these effects occur at levels experienced by the general public.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314148</id>
	<title>Field strenght meter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267448400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not do this scientifically?  Get/procure/rent/borrow a field-strength meter, or hire someone to measure it for you.  It's cheap relative to the price you're looking at for a top-floor place in Manhattan.</p><p>Then, measure it.  Walk all around, sometimes internal reflections can make a further-away side 'hotter' than a closer one.</p><p>Then measure your cell phone, right up close a cm or two from the front, as if you were holding it.</p><p>The readings will probably be in decibels (dB).  Calculate (db of tower) - (db of cellphone).  The difference is how much stronger the tower is compared to the cellphone.  It goes in powers of 10.  0 dB is equal power.  10 dB is 10x the power.  20 dB is 100x the power.  30 dB is 1000x the power.  And so on.  If it is negative, it is weaker, by similar power-of-10 ratios.</p><p>Then make a decision depending on what you find.  Same or less power than a cellphone, you're OK.  10x the power is probably still OK but you'll have to decide depending how you feel about it all.  100x the power, maybe reconsider.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not do this scientifically ?
Get/procure/rent/borrow a field-strength meter , or hire someone to measure it for you .
It 's cheap relative to the price you 're looking at for a top-floor place in Manhattan.Then , measure it .
Walk all around , sometimes internal reflections can make a further-away side 'hotter ' than a closer one.Then measure your cell phone , right up close a cm or two from the front , as if you were holding it.The readings will probably be in decibels ( dB ) .
Calculate ( db of tower ) - ( db of cellphone ) .
The difference is how much stronger the tower is compared to the cellphone .
It goes in powers of 10 .
0 dB is equal power .
10 dB is 10x the power .
20 dB is 100x the power .
30 dB is 1000x the power .
And so on .
If it is negative , it is weaker , by similar power-of-10 ratios.Then make a decision depending on what you find .
Same or less power than a cellphone , you 're OK. 10x the power is probably still OK but you 'll have to decide depending how you feel about it all .
100x the power , maybe reconsider .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not do this scientifically?
Get/procure/rent/borrow a field-strength meter, or hire someone to measure it for you.
It's cheap relative to the price you're looking at for a top-floor place in Manhattan.Then, measure it.
Walk all around, sometimes internal reflections can make a further-away side 'hotter' than a closer one.Then measure your cell phone, right up close a cm or two from the front, as if you were holding it.The readings will probably be in decibels (dB).
Calculate (db of tower) - (db of cellphone).
The difference is how much stronger the tower is compared to the cellphone.
It goes in powers of 10.
0 dB is equal power.
10 dB is 10x the power.
20 dB is 100x the power.
30 dB is 1000x the power.
And so on.
If it is negative, it is weaker, by similar power-of-10 ratios.Then make a decision depending on what you find.
Same or less power than a cellphone, you're OK.  10x the power is probably still OK but you'll have to decide depending how you feel about it all.
100x the power, maybe reconsider.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316176</id>
	<title>Re:For what it's worth</title>
	<author>SlappyBastard</author>
	<datestamp>1267459260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Um, "sense of well-being" isn't the same as being sick.  If you expose people to the right form of infrasound, they will report ghost-sightings and physical illness, even though nothing harmful is happening to them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , " sense of well-being " is n't the same as being sick .
If you expose people to the right form of infrasound , they will report ghost-sightings and physical illness , even though nothing harmful is happening to them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, "sense of well-being" isn't the same as being sick.
If you expose people to the right form of infrasound, they will report ghost-sightings and physical illness, even though nothing harmful is happening to them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315694</id>
	<title>Best to stray on the safe side...</title>
	<author>blankoboy</author>
	<datestamp>1267457700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why trust what anyone says and then risk your health only to find out 10~20 years from now that it was in fact hazardous but after it is too late? Best to stray on the side of safety. You can always find another apartment....another body, not so much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why trust what anyone says and then risk your health only to find out 10 ~ 20 years from now that it was in fact hazardous but after it is too late ?
Best to stray on the side of safety .
You can always find another apartment....another body , not so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why trust what anyone says and then risk your health only to find out 10~20 years from now that it was in fact hazardous but after it is too late?
Best to stray on the side of safety.
You can always find another apartment....another body, not so much.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314616</id>
	<title>Two words...</title>
	<author>joshamania</author>
	<datestamp>1267452180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...Faraday cage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...Faraday cage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Faraday cage.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314214</id>
	<title>Re:I heard...</title>
	<author>Sowelu</author>
	<datestamp>1267449060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm too lazy to find links, but the counter-anecdote I've heard is that the cancer was tied to the herbicide they used to nuke the ground where they wanted to put the power lines.  They used one big standardized REALLY NASTY herbicide across the country because, well, you're trying to build them as cheap as possible, so you want to kill the undergrowth as fast and as dead you can.  Turns out it got into the water/air/children playing/whatever.
<br> <br>Again, though, this is just another anecdote too, until you look up some real research.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm too lazy to find links , but the counter-anecdote I 've heard is that the cancer was tied to the herbicide they used to nuke the ground where they wanted to put the power lines .
They used one big standardized REALLY NASTY herbicide across the country because , well , you 're trying to build them as cheap as possible , so you want to kill the undergrowth as fast and as dead you can .
Turns out it got into the water/air/children playing/whatever .
Again , though , this is just another anecdote too , until you look up some real research .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm too lazy to find links, but the counter-anecdote I've heard is that the cancer was tied to the herbicide they used to nuke the ground where they wanted to put the power lines.
They used one big standardized REALLY NASTY herbicide across the country because, well, you're trying to build them as cheap as possible, so you want to kill the undergrowth as fast and as dead you can.
Turns out it got into the water/air/children playing/whatever.
Again, though, this is just another anecdote too, until you look up some real research.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317290</id>
	<title>Re:For what it's worth</title>
	<author>ElectricTurtle</author>
	<datestamp>1267463340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the results of research can't be repeated, the research is junk. That's how science works. So I wouldn't get too paranoid about the 'small, but statistically significant relationship' if it cannot be reproduced. That suggests it was just an error, or a bad sampling group, or insufficient controls, or whatever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the results of research ca n't be repeated , the research is junk .
That 's how science works .
So I would n't get too paranoid about the 'small , but statistically significant relationship ' if it can not be reproduced .
That suggests it was just an error , or a bad sampling group , or insufficient controls , or whatever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the results of research can't be repeated, the research is junk.
That's how science works.
So I wouldn't get too paranoid about the 'small, but statistically significant relationship' if it cannot be reproduced.
That suggests it was just an error, or a bad sampling group, or insufficient controls, or whatever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314660</id>
	<title>Re:There are a lot of variables</title>
	<author>PsiCTO</author>
	<datestamp>1267452540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The most important variable is frequency. Anything near microwaves around 2.5 GHz is in the band that causes heating in materials with significant water. FM has never been a problem since it's so much lower. GSM tops out at 1.9 GHz, UMTS-FDD has versions right in the danger zone. As said in the quoted post, get an RF meter and measure for yourself. That being said, at 8 m the power is down by a factor of ~1/(2^4). So a 40 dBm EIRP would be around 2.5 dBm in your apartment. Compare that to 700 W that you'd find in your typical oven. Big difference...
<p>Last, I agree that you should consider future sale value as perceptions, especially uninformed as you are like to see in the general population, will trump logic...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The most important variable is frequency .
Anything near microwaves around 2.5 GHz is in the band that causes heating in materials with significant water .
FM has never been a problem since it 's so much lower .
GSM tops out at 1.9 GHz , UMTS-FDD has versions right in the danger zone .
As said in the quoted post , get an RF meter and measure for yourself .
That being said , at 8 m the power is down by a factor of ~ 1/ ( 2 ^ 4 ) .
So a 40 dBm EIRP would be around 2.5 dBm in your apartment .
Compare that to 700 W that you 'd find in your typical oven .
Big difference.. . Last , I agree that you should consider future sale value as perceptions , especially uninformed as you are like to see in the general population , will trump logic.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most important variable is frequency.
Anything near microwaves around 2.5 GHz is in the band that causes heating in materials with significant water.
FM has never been a problem since it's so much lower.
GSM tops out at 1.9 GHz, UMTS-FDD has versions right in the danger zone.
As said in the quoted post, get an RF meter and measure for yourself.
That being said, at 8 m the power is down by a factor of ~1/(2^4).
So a 40 dBm EIRP would be around 2.5 dBm in your apartment.
Compare that to 700 W that you'd find in your typical oven.
Big difference...
Last, I agree that you should consider future sale value as perceptions, especially uninformed as you are like to see in the general population, will trump logic...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31331132</id>
	<title>don't move into that</title>
	<author>uglymuged</author>
	<datestamp>1267551180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't move into that apartment unless you love Luekemia or some other illness sweeping over you.

 I had a good friend who lived in an apartment directly underneath a bank of cell antennas. He was a video editor and
occasionally he would give us copies of what he was working on but they would always be distorted and have big
noisy sections in them. Thanks to the cell towers burst disrupting his electrical equipment.

He should have taken that as a warning, because now he has cancer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't move into that apartment unless you love Luekemia or some other illness sweeping over you .
I had a good friend who lived in an apartment directly underneath a bank of cell antennas .
He was a video editor and occasionally he would give us copies of what he was working on but they would always be distorted and have big noisy sections in them .
Thanks to the cell towers burst disrupting his electrical equipment .
He should have taken that as a warning , because now he has cancer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't move into that apartment unless you love Luekemia or some other illness sweeping over you.
I had a good friend who lived in an apartment directly underneath a bank of cell antennas.
He was a video editor and
occasionally he would give us copies of what he was working on but they would always be distorted and have big
noisy sections in them.
Thanks to the cell towers burst disrupting his electrical equipment.
He should have taken that as a warning, because now he has cancer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315090</id>
	<title>The antennas aren't pointing right at your aptmt.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267455240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That would be a total waste of RF energy.</p><p>Most people can't tell where an antenna's energy is going just by looking at it.</p><p>The other thing to consider is that, in a downtown location, all cells are likely to be micro-cells.  The working range is only a block or so and the power has to be quite limited so as to not interfere with other cells.</p><p>Don't worry, buy the apartment.  The nastiest possible sources of RF energy are the ones you can't see anyway(like FM stations bouncing off the local skyscrapers.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That would be a total waste of RF energy.Most people ca n't tell where an antenna 's energy is going just by looking at it.The other thing to consider is that , in a downtown location , all cells are likely to be micro-cells .
The working range is only a block or so and the power has to be quite limited so as to not interfere with other cells.Do n't worry , buy the apartment .
The nastiest possible sources of RF energy are the ones you ca n't see anyway ( like FM stations bouncing off the local skyscrapers .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would be a total waste of RF energy.Most people can't tell where an antenna's energy is going just by looking at it.The other thing to consider is that, in a downtown location, all cells are likely to be micro-cells.
The working range is only a block or so and the power has to be quite limited so as to not interfere with other cells.Don't worry, buy the apartment.
The nastiest possible sources of RF energy are the ones you can't see anyway(like FM stations bouncing off the local skyscrapers.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31322990</id>
	<title>Re:I'd pass</title>
	<author>Bigjeff5</author>
	<datestamp>1267441500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Breathe man, breathe!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Breathe man , breathe !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Breathe man, breathe!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314314</id>
	<title>Re:The facts about urban wireless towers</title>
	<author>tagno25</author>
	<datestamp>1267450020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your AP probably transmits at 20-27dBm.  A cellular AP probably transmits at 40dBm.<br>
<br>
because of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square\_law" title="wikipedia.org">Inverse-square law</a> [wikipedia.org] the receive strength is very low.  Wi-Fi can operate at -88dBm if the noise floor is -96dBm.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your AP probably transmits at 20-27dBm .
A cellular AP probably transmits at 40dBm .
because of the Inverse-square law [ wikipedia.org ] the receive strength is very low .
Wi-Fi can operate at -88dBm if the noise floor is -96dBm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your AP probably transmits at 20-27dBm.
A cellular AP probably transmits at 40dBm.
because of the Inverse-square law [wikipedia.org] the receive strength is very low.
Wi-Fi can operate at -88dBm if the noise floor is -96dBm.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31336248</id>
	<title>Historical precedent</title>
	<author>danielpauldavis</author>
	<datestamp>1267526700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read that The Soviets used microwaves beamed against windows of the U.S. embassy to eavesdrop on conversations and the side effect was physical ailments. Intensity of the beams will be the question whose answer decides this one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read that The Soviets used microwaves beamed against windows of the U.S. embassy to eavesdrop on conversations and the side effect was physical ailments .
Intensity of the beams will be the question whose answer decides this one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read that The Soviets used microwaves beamed against windows of the U.S. embassy to eavesdrop on conversations and the side effect was physical ailments.
Intensity of the beams will be the question whose answer decides this one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315222</id>
	<title>Overlooked Questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267455900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Why has the apartment become available?<br>2. Is the previous occupant bald?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Why has the apartment become available ? 2 .
Is the previous occupant bald ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Why has the apartment become available?2.
Is the previous occupant bald?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316340</id>
	<title>pics or gtfo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267459680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>pics or gtfo!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>pics or gtfo !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>pics or gtfo!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320236</id>
	<title>Be cautious...</title>
	<author>dtjohnson</author>
	<datestamp>1267474680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is very common now for cell sites to be placed in all sorts of unobtrusive uban locations such as the roofs and exterior walls of commercial buildings, or disguised as power poles, trees, or flagpoles.  It is also very common for several companies to co-locate at a good location once the first company has built its site.  Cell companies tend to rent out space at their location to other companies because those other companies can help them out at other sites.  What you need to look at is how many different carriers are set up at the site near the apartment and generally how powerful the transmitters are.  Each carrier will install its own antennas, backup power equipment, and power supply cabling which you can often see at least portions of at the site.  Some cell sites can have a power output of thousands of watts while others can be much smaller, depending on what sort of area the site is supposed to serve and how good its antenna location is.  You can get some approximate idea of how powerful the cell site is by looking at how big the backup power generator is and how large the power supply cabling (i.e. the conduit diameter) to the transmitter is.  If there are 3 companies co-located and each has 30+ kw backup generators installed, you can expect that it is a relatively high power site.  In general, it seems that people are not happy being located in close proximity to cell transmitters.  I have seen cell towers quietly installed on the roofs of office buildings and within a few years, the top floor(s) of the building are devoid of tenants.  Office building landlords just factor that into the rent that they charge the cell companies.  In your case, you are probably getting a nicer apartment than the same money would get at a cell-free location but when you go to sell the unit, the selling price will reflect the current cell site situation at the time that you sell.  If you are serious about buying, try to determine if it is likely that other cell companies will co-locate at the original site, possibly lowering your future value.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is very common now for cell sites to be placed in all sorts of unobtrusive uban locations such as the roofs and exterior walls of commercial buildings , or disguised as power poles , trees , or flagpoles .
It is also very common for several companies to co-locate at a good location once the first company has built its site .
Cell companies tend to rent out space at their location to other companies because those other companies can help them out at other sites .
What you need to look at is how many different carriers are set up at the site near the apartment and generally how powerful the transmitters are .
Each carrier will install its own antennas , backup power equipment , and power supply cabling which you can often see at least portions of at the site .
Some cell sites can have a power output of thousands of watts while others can be much smaller , depending on what sort of area the site is supposed to serve and how good its antenna location is .
You can get some approximate idea of how powerful the cell site is by looking at how big the backup power generator is and how large the power supply cabling ( i.e .
the conduit diameter ) to the transmitter is .
If there are 3 companies co-located and each has 30 + kw backup generators installed , you can expect that it is a relatively high power site .
In general , it seems that people are not happy being located in close proximity to cell transmitters .
I have seen cell towers quietly installed on the roofs of office buildings and within a few years , the top floor ( s ) of the building are devoid of tenants .
Office building landlords just factor that into the rent that they charge the cell companies .
In your case , you are probably getting a nicer apartment than the same money would get at a cell-free location but when you go to sell the unit , the selling price will reflect the current cell site situation at the time that you sell .
If you are serious about buying , try to determine if it is likely that other cell companies will co-locate at the original site , possibly lowering your future value .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is very common now for cell sites to be placed in all sorts of unobtrusive uban locations such as the roofs and exterior walls of commercial buildings, or disguised as power poles, trees, or flagpoles.
It is also very common for several companies to co-locate at a good location once the first company has built its site.
Cell companies tend to rent out space at their location to other companies because those other companies can help them out at other sites.
What you need to look at is how many different carriers are set up at the site near the apartment and generally how powerful the transmitters are.
Each carrier will install its own antennas, backup power equipment, and power supply cabling which you can often see at least portions of at the site.
Some cell sites can have a power output of thousands of watts while others can be much smaller, depending on what sort of area the site is supposed to serve and how good its antenna location is.
You can get some approximate idea of how powerful the cell site is by looking at how big the backup power generator is and how large the power supply cabling (i.e.
the conduit diameter) to the transmitter is.
If there are 3 companies co-located and each has 30+ kw backup generators installed, you can expect that it is a relatively high power site.
In general, it seems that people are not happy being located in close proximity to cell transmitters.
I have seen cell towers quietly installed on the roofs of office buildings and within a few years, the top floor(s) of the building are devoid of tenants.
Office building landlords just factor that into the rent that they charge the cell companies.
In your case, you are probably getting a nicer apartment than the same money would get at a cell-free location but when you go to sell the unit, the selling price will reflect the current cell site situation at the time that you sell.
If you are serious about buying, try to determine if it is likely that other cell companies will co-locate at the original site, possibly lowering your future value.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314462</id>
	<title>*Buzz*</title>
	<author>neumayr</author>
	<datestamp>1267451100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I can't comment on the radiation issues (a touchy subject with lots and lots of seemingly conflicting findings by not necessarily independent researchers), some of those towers do generate a very annoying sound.<br>
A friend of mine lives in close proximity of one of those beasts, and the high pitched humming makes me uncomfortable. Wouldn't want to live there myself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I ca n't comment on the radiation issues ( a touchy subject with lots and lots of seemingly conflicting findings by not necessarily independent researchers ) , some of those towers do generate a very annoying sound .
A friend of mine lives in close proximity of one of those beasts , and the high pitched humming makes me uncomfortable .
Would n't want to live there myself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I can't comment on the radiation issues (a touchy subject with lots and lots of seemingly conflicting findings by not necessarily independent researchers), some of those towers do generate a very annoying sound.
A friend of mine lives in close proximity of one of those beasts, and the high pitched humming makes me uncomfortable.
Wouldn't want to live there myself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31321818</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Brandybuck</author>
	<datestamp>1267437180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exposure to installed asbestos is safe. One time exposures to particulate asbestos is also reasonable safe. It is only repeated exposure to particulate asbestos that is a problem. People who have to deal with asbestos removal on a regular basis should be concerned, but if you're a homeowner who discovers asbestos in your textured ceiling, don't worry about it because you are safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exposure to installed asbestos is safe .
One time exposures to particulate asbestos is also reasonable safe .
It is only repeated exposure to particulate asbestos that is a problem .
People who have to deal with asbestos removal on a regular basis should be concerned , but if you 're a homeowner who discovers asbestos in your textured ceiling , do n't worry about it because you are safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exposure to installed asbestos is safe.
One time exposures to particulate asbestos is also reasonable safe.
It is only repeated exposure to particulate asbestos that is a problem.
People who have to deal with asbestos removal on a regular basis should be concerned, but if you're a homeowner who discovers asbestos in your textured ceiling, don't worry about it because you are safe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31323994</id>
	<title>Re:You make an awful lot of money for an engineer</title>
	<author>ChrisMaple</author>
	<datestamp>1267446180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are plenty of places in Manhattan where I wouldn't live even if I were paid to live there. Like... like all of Manhattan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are plenty of places in Manhattan where I would n't live even if I were paid to live there .
Like... like all of Manhattan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are plenty of places in Manhattan where I wouldn't live even if I were paid to live there.
Like... like all of Manhattan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320052</id>
	<title>Tin Foil Hats</title>
	<author>mneisler</author>
	<datestamp>1267473720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just wear a tin foil hat when your in your apartment and you will be fine. Plus you will have the added benefit of our reptile overlords not being able to control you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just wear a tin foil hat when your in your apartment and you will be fine .
Plus you will have the added benefit of our reptile overlords not being able to control you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just wear a tin foil hat when your in your apartment and you will be fine.
Plus you will have the added benefit of our reptile overlords not being able to control you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314392</id>
	<title>Re:I heard...</title>
	<author>u38cg</author>
	<datestamp>1267450620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>None of the studies that find such a correlation control for any of the other factors that lead to people living right next to such power lines, such as behaviours that tend to lead to diseases of various sorts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>None of the studies that find such a correlation control for any of the other factors that lead to people living right next to such power lines , such as behaviours that tend to lead to diseases of various sorts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>None of the studies that find such a correlation control for any of the other factors that lead to people living right next to such power lines, such as behaviours that tend to lead to diseases of various sorts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315068</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>TheLink</author>
	<datestamp>1267455120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's irrelevant if you don't have a malaria/mosquito problem in the first place. In which case the use of DDT increases your risk (instead of reducing it).<br><br>It's not a choice between DDT and Malaria the submitter is facing here.<br><br>It's persistent microwave exposure vs not living in a kickass apartment (see the original title).<br><br>What would be relevant is how much his risk would increase by. I don't know what it is but I would say it's not zero.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's irrelevant if you do n't have a malaria/mosquito problem in the first place .
In which case the use of DDT increases your risk ( instead of reducing it ) .It 's not a choice between DDT and Malaria the submitter is facing here.It 's persistent microwave exposure vs not living in a kickass apartment ( see the original title ) .What would be relevant is how much his risk would increase by .
I do n't know what it is but I would say it 's not zero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's irrelevant if you don't have a malaria/mosquito problem in the first place.
In which case the use of DDT increases your risk (instead of reducing it).It's not a choice between DDT and Malaria the submitter is facing here.It's persistent microwave exposure vs not living in a kickass apartment (see the original title).What would be relevant is how much his risk would increase by.
I don't know what it is but I would say it's not zero.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316456</id>
	<title>Line the Wall With Aluminum Foil</title>
	<author>littlewink</author>
	<datestamp>1267460220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But first roll a giant ball of foil and go into the apartment. If it starts to spark, then you probably will need to do what the subject line says.</p><p>Foil is cheap: sanity is priceless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But first roll a giant ball of foil and go into the apartment .
If it starts to spark , then you probably will need to do what the subject line says.Foil is cheap : sanity is priceless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But first roll a giant ball of foil and go into the apartment.
If it starts to spark, then you probably will need to do what the subject line says.Foil is cheap: sanity is priceless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320820</id>
	<title>Re:I'd pass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267476840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As far as I know (and I'm no expert, just good at googling) , the radiation levels from antennas are relatively safe about 3-5 meters away from them but depending on the type of antenna their beam can kind of focused in one direction so that 3-5 meters estimation could mean a measurement ouside the beam direction</p></div><p>This is a cellphone tower, so surely the beam moves to track the telephones?  Hence why they have 2 antennas for each direction (phased array and all that)</p><p>You would hope the fixed beams (uplink etc) wouldn't point through buildings because they've been carefully aimed.  (captcha: occlude)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as I know ( and I 'm no expert , just good at googling ) , the radiation levels from antennas are relatively safe about 3-5 meters away from them but depending on the type of antenna their beam can kind of focused in one direction so that 3-5 meters estimation could mean a measurement ouside the beam directionThis is a cellphone tower , so surely the beam moves to track the telephones ?
Hence why they have 2 antennas for each direction ( phased array and all that ) You would hope the fixed beams ( uplink etc ) would n't point through buildings because they 've been carefully aimed .
( captcha : occlude )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as I know (and I'm no expert, just good at googling) , the radiation levels from antennas are relatively safe about 3-5 meters away from them but depending on the type of antenna their beam can kind of focused in one direction so that 3-5 meters estimation could mean a measurement ouside the beam directionThis is a cellphone tower, so surely the beam moves to track the telephones?
Hence why they have 2 antennas for each direction (phased array and all that)You would hope the fixed beams (uplink etc) wouldn't point through buildings because they've been carefully aimed.
(captcha: occlude)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318032</id>
	<title>No worries!</title>
	<author>shaitand</author>
	<datestamp>1267466160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm pretty sure I grew up in that very apartment and I came out just fine!</p><p>*puts custom tard helmet complete with propeller back on and proceeds to charge the concrete wall headfirst repeatedly*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure I grew up in that very apartment and I came out just fine !
* puts custom tard helmet complete with propeller back on and proceeds to charge the concrete wall headfirst repeatedly *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure I grew up in that very apartment and I came out just fine!
*puts custom tard helmet complete with propeller back on and proceeds to charge the concrete wall headfirst repeatedly*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319762</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1267472640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DDT is effective for controlling malaria when it is used properly.  However, when the chemical is applied to the land like butter on toast, mosquitoes often become resistant to the chemical over time.  This is in fact what happened in India and resulted in the use of Malethion for which the mosquitoes were largely not resistant.  DDT continues to be used in a small number of countries for the express purpose of controlling malaria,  Like antibiotics, DDT must be used intelligently to avoid resistance to the chemical in the target species.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DDT is effective for controlling malaria when it is used properly .
However , when the chemical is applied to the land like butter on toast , mosquitoes often become resistant to the chemical over time .
This is in fact what happened in India and resulted in the use of Malethion for which the mosquitoes were largely not resistant .
DDT continues to be used in a small number of countries for the express purpose of controlling malaria , Like antibiotics , DDT must be used intelligently to avoid resistance to the chemical in the target species .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DDT is effective for controlling malaria when it is used properly.
However, when the chemical is applied to the land like butter on toast, mosquitoes often become resistant to the chemical over time.
This is in fact what happened in India and resulted in the use of Malethion for which the mosquitoes were largely not resistant.
DDT continues to be used in a small number of countries for the express purpose of controlling malaria,  Like antibiotics, DDT must be used intelligently to avoid resistance to the chemical in the target species.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313962</id>
	<title>Title should be:</title>
	<author>dushkin</author>
	<datestamp>1267446360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Killer apartment vs. KILLER apartment</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Killer apartment vs. KILLER apartment</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Killer apartment vs. KILLER apartment</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319510</id>
	<title>Best place to ask</title>
	<author>cecom</author>
	<datestamp>1267471800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Slashdot, please help me make an enlightened decision.</p></div></blockquote><p>How did that go for you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot , please help me make an enlightened decision.How did that go for you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot, please help me make an enlightened decision.How did that go for you?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314106</id>
	<title>Here's a tip...</title>
	<author>Telecommando</author>
	<datestamp>1267448040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If your microwave popcorn starts to pop before you turn the microwave on, it's probably not safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If your microwave popcorn starts to pop before you turn the microwave on , it 's probably not safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your microwave popcorn starts to pop before you turn the microwave on, it's probably not safe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314028</id>
	<title>1. Placebo... 2. Precautionary Principle</title>
	<author>gobbo</author>
	<datestamp>1267447320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You no buy.</p><p>First, just the shred of doubt will have some effect on your well being. Not just through stress, but through placebo effects.</p><p>Second, this is a relatively new risk of exposure for the species and investigations into it are relatively weak. Seems like a good time to deploy the Precautionary Principle.</p><p>Buy an apt exposed to trees or a view, instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You no buy.First , just the shred of doubt will have some effect on your well being .
Not just through stress , but through placebo effects.Second , this is a relatively new risk of exposure for the species and investigations into it are relatively weak .
Seems like a good time to deploy the Precautionary Principle.Buy an apt exposed to trees or a view , instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You no buy.First, just the shred of doubt will have some effect on your well being.
Not just through stress, but through placebo effects.Second, this is a relatively new risk of exposure for the species and investigations into it are relatively weak.
Seems like a good time to deploy the Precautionary Principle.Buy an apt exposed to trees or a view, instead.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314962</id>
	<title>Signal strength at the source</title>
	<author>Targon</author>
	<datestamp>1267454340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thing that should concern you is that the exact response of the human body to these signals is still not understood.    Can you trust ANY study when these studies are intended to prove or disprove something in the first place, in regards to the health impact of being near a cell phone tower for an extended period of time?    Also, think about all of the things that have been discovered to be harmful after decades of use, and then look at cell phones.   You may remember DDT, Saccharin, and other things that have caused so many health problems.</p><p>So, don't go for it, just because you can't know for sure if there would be a health concern due to prolonged exposure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing that should concern you is that the exact response of the human body to these signals is still not understood .
Can you trust ANY study when these studies are intended to prove or disprove something in the first place , in regards to the health impact of being near a cell phone tower for an extended period of time ?
Also , think about all of the things that have been discovered to be harmful after decades of use , and then look at cell phones .
You may remember DDT , Saccharin , and other things that have caused so many health problems.So , do n't go for it , just because you ca n't know for sure if there would be a health concern due to prolonged exposure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing that should concern you is that the exact response of the human body to these signals is still not understood.
Can you trust ANY study when these studies are intended to prove or disprove something in the first place, in regards to the health impact of being near a cell phone tower for an extended period of time?
Also, think about all of the things that have been discovered to be harmful after decades of use, and then look at cell phones.
You may remember DDT, Saccharin, and other things that have caused so many health problems.So, don't go for it, just because you can't know for sure if there would be a health concern due to prolonged exposure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315480</id>
	<title>Measure, don't guess</title>
	<author>egcagrac0</author>
	<datestamp>1267456860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously, you're concerned.</p><p>Measure how much RF is blasting through there.   A <a href="http://www.zapchecker.com/" title="zapchecker.com">field strength meter</a> [zapchecker.com] or possibly a spectrum analyzer will be very helpful with this pursuit.</p><p>Don't trust the <a href="http://www2.arrl.org/news/rfsafety/exposure\_regs.html#table1" title="arrl.org">MPE guidelines</a> [arrl.org] (if you did, you need to base it off the "uncontrolled exposure" side, only far more conservative), because they want you to die a gruesome painful death.</p><p>Measure first, build your Farraday cage, measure again, improve your Farraday cage... ad nauseum.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously , you 're concerned.Measure how much RF is blasting through there .
A field strength meter [ zapchecker.com ] or possibly a spectrum analyzer will be very helpful with this pursuit.Do n't trust the MPE guidelines [ arrl.org ] ( if you did , you need to base it off the " uncontrolled exposure " side , only far more conservative ) , because they want you to die a gruesome painful death.Measure first , build your Farraday cage , measure again , improve your Farraday cage... ad nauseum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously, you're concerned.Measure how much RF is blasting through there.
A field strength meter [zapchecker.com] or possibly a spectrum analyzer will be very helpful with this pursuit.Don't trust the MPE guidelines [arrl.org] (if you did, you need to base it off the "uncontrolled exposure" side, only far more conservative), because they want you to die a gruesome painful death.Measure first, build your Farraday cage, measure again, improve your Farraday cage... ad nauseum.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314094</id>
	<title>I heard...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267447920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, there's alot of sentiment that EM radiation has no effect on DNA, etc etc.  But I had read somewhere that people that live near power lines out in the country seem to develop extremely rare forms of cancer at a higher percentage than people living in the city.  Of course, coincidence is not causation.</p><p>With that in mind, do I exclusively use a cell phone? Yes.  I just don't know if I'd want to live next to a tower that might focus EM radiation right at my room while I sleep 8 hours a day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , there 's alot of sentiment that EM radiation has no effect on DNA , etc etc .
But I had read somewhere that people that live near power lines out in the country seem to develop extremely rare forms of cancer at a higher percentage than people living in the city .
Of course , coincidence is not causation.With that in mind , do I exclusively use a cell phone ?
Yes. I just do n't know if I 'd want to live next to a tower that might focus EM radiation right at my room while I sleep 8 hours a day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, there's alot of sentiment that EM radiation has no effect on DNA, etc etc.
But I had read somewhere that people that live near power lines out in the country seem to develop extremely rare forms of cancer at a higher percentage than people living in the city.
Of course, coincidence is not causation.With that in mind, do I exclusively use a cell phone?
Yes.  I just don't know if I'd want to live next to a tower that might focus EM radiation right at my room while I sleep 8 hours a day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31340306</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>duffbeer703</author>
	<datestamp>1267549740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DDT was banned after it was discovered that it had moved through the food chain with devastating effect. For example, birds of prey were essentially wiped out by the use of DDT. It also behaves in an estrogenic manner and can trigger hormone response in some situations, (ie. fetal development and miscarriage) and may be a carcinogen.</p><p>Is spraying DDT in the US worth the potential human and demonstrated risk to animals? In my opinion, no. Is spraying DDT in sub-saharan Africa where the probability of getting malaria or some other tropical disease worth it? Maybe -- but mosquito nets may be a better overall investment for the folks living there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DDT was banned after it was discovered that it had moved through the food chain with devastating effect .
For example , birds of prey were essentially wiped out by the use of DDT .
It also behaves in an estrogenic manner and can trigger hormone response in some situations , ( ie .
fetal development and miscarriage ) and may be a carcinogen.Is spraying DDT in the US worth the potential human and demonstrated risk to animals ?
In my opinion , no .
Is spraying DDT in sub-saharan Africa where the probability of getting malaria or some other tropical disease worth it ?
Maybe -- but mosquito nets may be a better overall investment for the folks living there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DDT was banned after it was discovered that it had moved through the food chain with devastating effect.
For example, birds of prey were essentially wiped out by the use of DDT.
It also behaves in an estrogenic manner and can trigger hormone response in some situations, (ie.
fetal development and miscarriage) and may be a carcinogen.Is spraying DDT in the US worth the potential human and demonstrated risk to animals?
In my opinion, no.
Is spraying DDT in sub-saharan Africa where the probability of getting malaria or some other tropical disease worth it?
Maybe -- but mosquito nets may be a better overall investment for the folks living there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317752</id>
	<title>Solution</title>
	<author>swaha</author>
	<datestamp>1267465080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just line the walls with aluminum foil.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just line the walls with aluminum foil .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just line the walls with aluminum foil.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314826</id>
	<title>Irresistable...</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1267453500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>
A tinfoil hat should help....</htmltext>
<tokenext>A tinfoil hat should help... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
A tinfoil hat should help....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314010</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267447080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well well I would not be that fast to say that this could not be an health issue. There is enough evidence that radiation can be hazardious. However we are not sure of what type and energy levels are unhealty.</p><p>Resently though it has been shown that mobile phones are a not that bad as first anticipated. On grown up it can hardly be an issue at all. Though on childen it's evident that a modern mobile phone does heat up their brain while beeing on a mobile phone. It's not known what the effects of this in the end are. But that is reason enough to be carefull.</p><p>When it comes to antennas of the kind you describe I have no Idea of the energy levels, but I do doubt that they would be any lower than of an mobile phone. If you want to make sure you can measure the energy levels  and compare them to energy levels of a mobile phone and make your conlusions out from that.</p><p>Some people take this to extreems, but you might also consider usage of window blinds. Aluminium or some other neath loocking type. That would moste surely give you a shielding that is enough without being a jackass nutcase. Grounding would that be an totally overkill, i dont know?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well well I would not be that fast to say that this could not be an health issue .
There is enough evidence that radiation can be hazardious .
However we are not sure of what type and energy levels are unhealty.Resently though it has been shown that mobile phones are a not that bad as first anticipated .
On grown up it can hardly be an issue at all .
Though on childen it 's evident that a modern mobile phone does heat up their brain while beeing on a mobile phone .
It 's not known what the effects of this in the end are .
But that is reason enough to be carefull.When it comes to antennas of the kind you describe I have no Idea of the energy levels , but I do doubt that they would be any lower than of an mobile phone .
If you want to make sure you can measure the energy levels and compare them to energy levels of a mobile phone and make your conlusions out from that.Some people take this to extreems , but you might also consider usage of window blinds .
Aluminium or some other neath loocking type .
That would moste surely give you a shielding that is enough without being a jackass nutcase .
Grounding would that be an totally overkill , i dont know ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well well I would not be that fast to say that this could not be an health issue.
There is enough evidence that radiation can be hazardious.
However we are not sure of what type and energy levels are unhealty.Resently though it has been shown that mobile phones are a not that bad as first anticipated.
On grown up it can hardly be an issue at all.
Though on childen it's evident that a modern mobile phone does heat up their brain while beeing on a mobile phone.
It's not known what the effects of this in the end are.
But that is reason enough to be carefull.When it comes to antennas of the kind you describe I have no Idea of the energy levels, but I do doubt that they would be any lower than of an mobile phone.
If you want to make sure you can measure the energy levels  and compare them to energy levels of a mobile phone and make your conlusions out from that.Some people take this to extreems, but you might also consider usage of window blinds.
Aluminium or some other neath loocking type.
That would moste surely give you a shielding that is enough without being a jackass nutcase.
Grounding would that be an totally overkill, i dont know?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314268</id>
	<title>Here's what some experts say...</title>
	<author>beguyld</author>
	<datestamp>1267449660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://electromagnetichealth.org/quotes-from-experts/" title="electromag...health.org" rel="nofollow">http://electromagnetichealth.org/quotes-from-experts/</a> [electromag...health.org]</p><p>Also, worth carefully reading the Wikipedia entry: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile\_phone\_radiation\_and\_health" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile\_phone\_radiation\_and\_health</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>From the Wikipedia article:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Sleep, EEG and waking rCBF have been studied in relation to RF exposure for a decade now, and the majority of papers published to date have found some form of effect.</p></div><p>So there is SOME kind of an effect, and we don't understand it yet. Those that scoff at any biological effect at all are fools. Wise men don't scoff, they watch carefully and reserve final judgment. Take a close look at quantum physics if you don't think we live in a mysterious universe...</p><p>Since there IS some kind of biological effect, and it is not well understood, I would err on the side of caution. I would most especially not want to chance affecting the DNA of a women's eggs (which already exist her whole life) and/or conceiving children in that environment. Maybe the chance of problems is low because the signal "should" be low inside the building, but why take the chance when experts are disagreeing and the trend is toward more caution? (cue the inevitable joke about a real woman there... sigh...)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //electromagnetichealth.org/quotes-from-experts/ [ electromag...health.org ] Also , worth carefully reading the Wikipedia entry : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile \ _phone \ _radiation \ _and \ _health [ wikipedia.org ] From the Wikipedia article : Sleep , EEG and waking rCBF have been studied in relation to RF exposure for a decade now , and the majority of papers published to date have found some form of effect.So there is SOME kind of an effect , and we do n't understand it yet .
Those that scoff at any biological effect at all are fools .
Wise men do n't scoff , they watch carefully and reserve final judgment .
Take a close look at quantum physics if you do n't think we live in a mysterious universe...Since there IS some kind of biological effect , and it is not well understood , I would err on the side of caution .
I would most especially not want to chance affecting the DNA of a women 's eggs ( which already exist her whole life ) and/or conceiving children in that environment .
Maybe the chance of problems is low because the signal " should " be low inside the building , but why take the chance when experts are disagreeing and the trend is toward more caution ?
( cue the inevitable joke about a real woman there... sigh... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://electromagnetichealth.org/quotes-from-experts/ [electromag...health.org]Also, worth carefully reading the Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile\_phone\_radiation\_and\_health [wikipedia.org]From the Wikipedia article:Sleep, EEG and waking rCBF have been studied in relation to RF exposure for a decade now, and the majority of papers published to date have found some form of effect.So there is SOME kind of an effect, and we don't understand it yet.
Those that scoff at any biological effect at all are fools.
Wise men don't scoff, they watch carefully and reserve final judgment.
Take a close look at quantum physics if you don't think we live in a mysterious universe...Since there IS some kind of biological effect, and it is not well understood, I would err on the side of caution.
I would most especially not want to chance affecting the DNA of a women's eggs (which already exist her whole life) and/or conceiving children in that environment.
Maybe the chance of problems is low because the signal "should" be low inside the building, but why take the chance when experts are disagreeing and the trend is toward more caution?
(cue the inevitable joke about a real woman there... sigh...)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314812</id>
	<title>Re:cell tower next to village</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267453380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mobile company put cell tower on the roof of a building. People ccomplained about sleeping trouble.<br>The company answered : "the tower is not yet active, even not powered."<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mobile company put cell tower on the roof of a building .
People ccomplained about sleeping trouble.The company answered : " the tower is not yet active , even not powered .
" .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mobile company put cell tower on the roof of a building.
People ccomplained about sleeping trouble.The company answered : "the tower is not yet active, even not powered.
" ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314582</id>
	<title>Paint and Some Good Advise</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1267452000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wasn't there a recent article here on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. detailing paint that stopped radio waves? I'd look into that.<br>I'd also drop the FCC a line about regulations regarding placement of dishes. I don't think they allow situations like that.<br>Anyway the paint will stop WiFi so you won't be able to jack anyone elses and visa versa. Probably not good for getting FM or T.V. reception, but then if you can afford an apt. like that you likely get cable.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; On the other hand, if you're a New Yorker, you've chosen a life that is going to kill you far too young from environment/social/stress issues anyway. Best to chuck it all and find your own private Idaho and some nice MLM that will let you vacation as you work, get proper nutrition and retire in a few years with a wad o cash. If you've made it to Manhattan living under your own power, this should be childs play for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't there a recent article here on / .
detailing paint that stopped radio waves ?
I 'd look into that.I 'd also drop the FCC a line about regulations regarding placement of dishes .
I do n't think they allow situations like that.Anyway the paint will stop WiFi so you wo n't be able to jack anyone elses and visa versa .
Probably not good for getting FM or T.V .
reception , but then if you can afford an apt .
like that you likely get cable .
            On the other hand , if you 're a New Yorker , you 've chosen a life that is going to kill you far too young from environment/social/stress issues anyway .
Best to chuck it all and find your own private Idaho and some nice MLM that will let you vacation as you work , get proper nutrition and retire in a few years with a wad o cash .
If you 've made it to Manhattan living under your own power , this should be childs play for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't there a recent article here on /.
detailing paint that stopped radio waves?
I'd look into that.I'd also drop the FCC a line about regulations regarding placement of dishes.
I don't think they allow situations like that.Anyway the paint will stop WiFi so you won't be able to jack anyone elses and visa versa.
Probably not good for getting FM or T.V.
reception, but then if you can afford an apt.
like that you likely get cable.
            On the other hand, if you're a New Yorker, you've chosen a life that is going to kill you far too young from environment/social/stress issues anyway.
Best to chuck it all and find your own private Idaho and some nice MLM that will let you vacation as you work, get proper nutrition and retire in a few years with a wad o cash.
If you've made it to Manhattan living under your own power, this should be childs play for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314038</id>
	<title>There are a lot of variables</title>
	<author>Leghorn</author>
	<datestamp>1267447440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work with high power RF for a living.  There are a lot of variables that contribute to non-ionizing radiation.  Proximity, transmitter power, antenna radiation pattern, materials between you and the antenna, etc.  There are ways to estimate the field intensity, but unless you know all the necessary factors, your calculations could be off by orders of magnitude.  Having said that, the poster who commented that urban cells are lower power is generally correct, however, in a major metropolitan area, the cell can have many channels active at once, and the effect is cumulative.  ANSI C95.2 is the safety standard covering this radiation.  It's pretty technical, but the gist is the licensee (in this case the carrier) is responsible for making sure they don't cook the public.</p><p>The carrier must certify to the FCC that there are no publicly accessible areas that receive unsafe RF fields.  The exact number varies by frequency, but generally there are two levels specified, one for publicly accessible areas and another for areas where personnel who have been trained in RF can work in levels above the public ones.  These areas are normally calculated by the carrier prior to installation and they won't install if there's any chance they might exceed the safe levels.</p><p>As an example, I did an RF survey at one location where there was a multiple-transmitter FM antenna installed on top of a building that was across the street from another taller building.  We had three FM broadcast transmitters operating on this antenna with about 250 kilowatts of radiated power, and the measured levels in the building across the street were not over the limits for public access.  This was about 150 feet horizontally from the antenna.  The solar coating on the building's glass stopped enough RF that it wasn't a problem.</p><p>If you want to measure it yourself, there are some inexpensive meters that are pretty accurate that will give you an indication of how much RF you're seeing.  The one I have is this one:  http://www.trifield.com/TrifieldMeter.htm  It's about $150.  I've seen these for sale at Fry's.</p><p>I have calibrated mine against a $5000 Narda commercial RF radiation meter and it's pretty close, certainly close enough for a "go/no-go" test which is what I use it for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work with high power RF for a living .
There are a lot of variables that contribute to non-ionizing radiation .
Proximity , transmitter power , antenna radiation pattern , materials between you and the antenna , etc .
There are ways to estimate the field intensity , but unless you know all the necessary factors , your calculations could be off by orders of magnitude .
Having said that , the poster who commented that urban cells are lower power is generally correct , however , in a major metropolitan area , the cell can have many channels active at once , and the effect is cumulative .
ANSI C95.2 is the safety standard covering this radiation .
It 's pretty technical , but the gist is the licensee ( in this case the carrier ) is responsible for making sure they do n't cook the public.The carrier must certify to the FCC that there are no publicly accessible areas that receive unsafe RF fields .
The exact number varies by frequency , but generally there are two levels specified , one for publicly accessible areas and another for areas where personnel who have been trained in RF can work in levels above the public ones .
These areas are normally calculated by the carrier prior to installation and they wo n't install if there 's any chance they might exceed the safe levels.As an example , I did an RF survey at one location where there was a multiple-transmitter FM antenna installed on top of a building that was across the street from another taller building .
We had three FM broadcast transmitters operating on this antenna with about 250 kilowatts of radiated power , and the measured levels in the building across the street were not over the limits for public access .
This was about 150 feet horizontally from the antenna .
The solar coating on the building 's glass stopped enough RF that it was n't a problem.If you want to measure it yourself , there are some inexpensive meters that are pretty accurate that will give you an indication of how much RF you 're seeing .
The one I have is this one : http : //www.trifield.com/TrifieldMeter.htm It 's about $ 150 .
I 've seen these for sale at Fry 's.I have calibrated mine against a $ 5000 Narda commercial RF radiation meter and it 's pretty close , certainly close enough for a " go/no-go " test which is what I use it for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work with high power RF for a living.
There are a lot of variables that contribute to non-ionizing radiation.
Proximity, transmitter power, antenna radiation pattern, materials between you and the antenna, etc.
There are ways to estimate the field intensity, but unless you know all the necessary factors, your calculations could be off by orders of magnitude.
Having said that, the poster who commented that urban cells are lower power is generally correct, however, in a major metropolitan area, the cell can have many channels active at once, and the effect is cumulative.
ANSI C95.2 is the safety standard covering this radiation.
It's pretty technical, but the gist is the licensee (in this case the carrier) is responsible for making sure they don't cook the public.The carrier must certify to the FCC that there are no publicly accessible areas that receive unsafe RF fields.
The exact number varies by frequency, but generally there are two levels specified, one for publicly accessible areas and another for areas where personnel who have been trained in RF can work in levels above the public ones.
These areas are normally calculated by the carrier prior to installation and they won't install if there's any chance they might exceed the safe levels.As an example, I did an RF survey at one location where there was a multiple-transmitter FM antenna installed on top of a building that was across the street from another taller building.
We had three FM broadcast transmitters operating on this antenna with about 250 kilowatts of radiated power, and the measured levels in the building across the street were not over the limits for public access.
This was about 150 feet horizontally from the antenna.
The solar coating on the building's glass stopped enough RF that it wasn't a problem.If you want to measure it yourself, there are some inexpensive meters that are pretty accurate that will give you an indication of how much RF you're seeing.
The one I have is this one:  http://www.trifield.com/TrifieldMeter.htm  It's about $150.
I've seen these for sale at Fry's.I have calibrated mine against a $5000 Narda commercial RF radiation meter and it's pretty close, certainly close enough for a "go/no-go" test which is what I use it for.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314592</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267452060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Malaria is rather more dangerous than DDT.  DDT was banned by a politician, who was overriding the decision of his own regulators who had actually heard and read all the evidence and concluded that the benefits of DDT outweighed the risks that alarmists trumped up.</p><p>-jcr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Malaria is rather more dangerous than DDT .
DDT was banned by a politician , who was overriding the decision of his own regulators who had actually heard and read all the evidence and concluded that the benefits of DDT outweighed the risks that alarmists trumped up.-jcr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Malaria is rather more dangerous than DDT.
DDT was banned by a politician, who was overriding the decision of his own regulators who had actually heard and read all the evidence and concluded that the benefits of DDT outweighed the risks that alarmists trumped up.-jcr</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316190</id>
	<title>Get a radiation survey done,</title>
	<author>ridgecritter</author>
	<datestamp>1267459320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>as other posters suggest.  Make your intellectual decision based on the rad survey results.  Make your emotional decision based on the burden of constant, even though possibly irrational, worry.  Dismiss any thoughts of effectively shielding your living space.  This can only be done at the construction phase, is incredibly expensive, and is compromised every time you open a window or a door.  Post-construction measures like RF reflective or absorbent paints will not prevent RF leakage through what might seem like minor discontinuities, but which act as slot antennas to re-radiate RF energy into a room.  There are lots of apartments, it's not a good idea (for several reasons) to fall in love with a particular bit of real estate when you're in the buying mode anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>as other posters suggest .
Make your intellectual decision based on the rad survey results .
Make your emotional decision based on the burden of constant , even though possibly irrational , worry .
Dismiss any thoughts of effectively shielding your living space .
This can only be done at the construction phase , is incredibly expensive , and is compromised every time you open a window or a door .
Post-construction measures like RF reflective or absorbent paints will not prevent RF leakage through what might seem like minor discontinuities , but which act as slot antennas to re-radiate RF energy into a room .
There are lots of apartments , it 's not a good idea ( for several reasons ) to fall in love with a particular bit of real estate when you 're in the buying mode anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as other posters suggest.
Make your intellectual decision based on the rad survey results.
Make your emotional decision based on the burden of constant, even though possibly irrational, worry.
Dismiss any thoughts of effectively shielding your living space.
This can only be done at the construction phase, is incredibly expensive, and is compromised every time you open a window or a door.
Post-construction measures like RF reflective or absorbent paints will not prevent RF leakage through what might seem like minor discontinuities, but which act as slot antennas to re-radiate RF energy into a room.
There are lots of apartments, it's not a good idea (for several reasons) to fall in love with a particular bit of real estate when you're in the buying mode anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318596</id>
	<title>It will eff up your bluetooth reception big time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267468080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having a cell transmitter that close will degrade your bluetooth reception from 20+ feet to about 2 feet or less.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having a cell transmitter that close will degrade your bluetooth reception from 20 + feet to about 2 feet or less .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having a cell transmitter that close will degrade your bluetooth reception from 20+ feet to about 2 feet or less.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317776</id>
	<title>Re:I'd pass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267465200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed.</p><p>Considering that if it is safe now, it may not be in the future.  There is breakage, wind shearing forces, all sorts of things that can break the antenna or shift it so more radiation goes INTO your apartment.  Or if it works with another antenna focused on it, a crew may realign that antenna similarly blasting radiation into your apartment (with a misalignment or wrong power setting).  Even if temporary, I wouldn't want to get fried with a few hours of exposure while the antenna owning company gets a crew out there.</p><p>At the very least, if you buy it, put some monitors up, so that you know the levels you are exposed to, as well as if something changes.</p><p>Similarly, if this is a single site worth having a cell phone antenna on, there are likely other antennas with newer tech without a safety/health track record that may end up being put up there (without you noticing).  Worse, some of these may be transmitting/receiving to other buildings, at higher settings, or with deflections (may be safe, but if it hits something, the scatter may not be), so that not only a misalignment of the antenna on your roof could screw you, but the antenna trying to connect to your building may be misaligned and bombarding you.  This latter situation is even worse considering that you may have even fewer recourse to get the alignment fixed, since it requires hunting down and contacting a crew to work on some other building or tower.</p><p>Even if something is lined, it doesn't mean it couldn't become misaligned to bypass the obivous protections you may have put up to protect yourself.</p><p>btw, if you can afford this sort of thing, you likely can afford something nice elsewhere.  A brownstone, a penthouse in a shorter nearby building that doesn't have antennas, a nice townhouse near a subway line to the city, etc.  Esp. in this economy, where real estate in the city is probably still completely flat or depressed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed.Considering that if it is safe now , it may not be in the future .
There is breakage , wind shearing forces , all sorts of things that can break the antenna or shift it so more radiation goes INTO your apartment .
Or if it works with another antenna focused on it , a crew may realign that antenna similarly blasting radiation into your apartment ( with a misalignment or wrong power setting ) .
Even if temporary , I would n't want to get fried with a few hours of exposure while the antenna owning company gets a crew out there.At the very least , if you buy it , put some monitors up , so that you know the levels you are exposed to , as well as if something changes.Similarly , if this is a single site worth having a cell phone antenna on , there are likely other antennas with newer tech without a safety/health track record that may end up being put up there ( without you noticing ) .
Worse , some of these may be transmitting/receiving to other buildings , at higher settings , or with deflections ( may be safe , but if it hits something , the scatter may not be ) , so that not only a misalignment of the antenna on your roof could screw you , but the antenna trying to connect to your building may be misaligned and bombarding you .
This latter situation is even worse considering that you may have even fewer recourse to get the alignment fixed , since it requires hunting down and contacting a crew to work on some other building or tower.Even if something is lined , it does n't mean it could n't become misaligned to bypass the obivous protections you may have put up to protect yourself.btw , if you can afford this sort of thing , you likely can afford something nice elsewhere .
A brownstone , a penthouse in a shorter nearby building that does n't have antennas , a nice townhouse near a subway line to the city , etc .
Esp. in this economy , where real estate in the city is probably still completely flat or depressed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.Considering that if it is safe now, it may not be in the future.
There is breakage, wind shearing forces, all sorts of things that can break the antenna or shift it so more radiation goes INTO your apartment.
Or if it works with another antenna focused on it, a crew may realign that antenna similarly blasting radiation into your apartment (with a misalignment or wrong power setting).
Even if temporary, I wouldn't want to get fried with a few hours of exposure while the antenna owning company gets a crew out there.At the very least, if you buy it, put some monitors up, so that you know the levels you are exposed to, as well as if something changes.Similarly, if this is a single site worth having a cell phone antenna on, there are likely other antennas with newer tech without a safety/health track record that may end up being put up there (without you noticing).
Worse, some of these may be transmitting/receiving to other buildings, at higher settings, or with deflections (may be safe, but if it hits something, the scatter may not be), so that not only a misalignment of the antenna on your roof could screw you, but the antenna trying to connect to your building may be misaligned and bombarding you.
This latter situation is even worse considering that you may have even fewer recourse to get the alignment fixed, since it requires hunting down and contacting a crew to work on some other building or tower.Even if something is lined, it doesn't mean it couldn't become misaligned to bypass the obivous protections you may have put up to protect yourself.btw, if you can afford this sort of thing, you likely can afford something nice elsewhere.
A brownstone, a penthouse in a shorter nearby building that doesn't have antennas, a nice townhouse near a subway line to the city, etc.
Esp. in this economy, where real estate in the city is probably still completely flat or depressed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314512</id>
	<title>It's your life...</title>
	<author>mgravlee</author>
	<datestamp>1267451640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why in the world would you take a chance like this?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why in the world would you take a chance like this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why in the world would you take a chance like this?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318832</id>
	<title>FUD</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1267469040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The worry will have more effect on your health than the actual microwaves.</p><p>If you have the slightest worry about the physics involved then it's not right for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The worry will have more effect on your health than the actual microwaves.If you have the slightest worry about the physics involved then it 's not right for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The worry will have more effect on your health than the actual microwaves.If you have the slightest worry about the physics involved then it's not right for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319226</id>
	<title>Look for Simplicity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267470660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Finally a use for lead based paints.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally a use for lead based paints .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally a use for lead based paints.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317842</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>amorsen</author>
	<datestamp>1267465500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DDT is an extreme case where the people who benefit from it and the people who are harmed by it aren't the same people. DDT is used in the tropics, but the people affected by it are in the arctics living off of marine mammals. If you're utilitarian and therefore just trying to maximize the global utility, DDT is certainly positive: Many people are helped a lot, and few are harmed. There are other schools of ethics apart from utilitarianism however.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DDT is an extreme case where the people who benefit from it and the people who are harmed by it are n't the same people .
DDT is used in the tropics , but the people affected by it are in the arctics living off of marine mammals .
If you 're utilitarian and therefore just trying to maximize the global utility , DDT is certainly positive : Many people are helped a lot , and few are harmed .
There are other schools of ethics apart from utilitarianism however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DDT is an extreme case where the people who benefit from it and the people who are harmed by it aren't the same people.
DDT is used in the tropics, but the people affected by it are in the arctics living off of marine mammals.
If you're utilitarian and therefore just trying to maximize the global utility, DDT is certainly positive: Many people are helped a lot, and few are harmed.
There are other schools of ethics apart from utilitarianism however.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313880</id>
	<title>Buy it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267445520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Buy it.<br>2) Sue phone company<br>3)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>4) profit!!!!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Buy it.2 ) Sue phone company3 ) ...4 ) profit ! ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Buy it.2) Sue phone company3) ...4) profit!!!!!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31323494</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>dreethal</author>
	<datestamp>1267443660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please hold on while I edit Wikipedia and bribe some OSHA government officials to fix those issues for you...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please hold on while I edit Wikipedia and bribe some OSHA government officials to fix those issues for you.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please hold on while I edit Wikipedia and bribe some OSHA government officials to fix those issues for you...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316076</id>
	<title>Available living space in Manhattan</title>
	<author>SlappyBastard</author>
	<datestamp>1267458900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The first clue that something's up is that it's available.  Previous tenants doubtlessly died.  Or went crazy . . . and died in a hail of gunfire.  Or were taken over by the government and sent to do a mission . . . and died at the hands of Iranian intelligence.</p><p>The hows and the whats are meaningless . . . if you get that place, you are going to die.</p><p>In conclusion, you are exposed to radiation every day -- don't be a pussy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The first clue that something 's up is that it 's available .
Previous tenants doubtlessly died .
Or went crazy .
. .
and died in a hail of gunfire .
Or were taken over by the government and sent to do a mission .
. .
and died at the hands of Iranian intelligence.The hows and the whats are meaningless .
. .
if you get that place , you are going to die.In conclusion , you are exposed to radiation every day -- do n't be a pussy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The first clue that something's up is that it's available.
Previous tenants doubtlessly died.
Or went crazy .
. .
and died in a hail of gunfire.
Or were taken over by the government and sent to do a mission .
. .
and died at the hands of Iranian intelligence.The hows and the whats are meaningless .
. .
if you get that place, you are going to die.In conclusion, you are exposed to radiation every day -- don't be a pussy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313846</id>
	<title>Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>dnaumov</author>
	<datestamp>1267445100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If exposure to mobile carrier antenna radio waves was of any danger to public health, there is no way you would be seeing these antennas anywhere near apartment complexes, the FCC or whatever is the appropriate authority is in your country would be all over this. On the contrary, you should be happy that your apartment is going to get some pretty damn good coverage<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>If exposure to mobile carrier antenna radio waves was of any danger to public health , there is no way you would be seeing these antennas anywhere near apartment complexes , the FCC or whatever is the appropriate authority is in your country would be all over this .
On the contrary , you should be happy that your apartment is going to get some pretty damn good coverage : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If exposure to mobile carrier antenna radio waves was of any danger to public health, there is no way you would be seeing these antennas anywhere near apartment complexes, the FCC or whatever is the appropriate authority is in your country would be all over this.
On the contrary, you should be happy that your apartment is going to get some pretty damn good coverage :)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314642</id>
	<title>Well</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1267452420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your first hint should be that the apartment is for sale because everyone in it died of leukemia...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your first hint should be that the apartment is for sale because everyone in it died of leukemia.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your first hint should be that the apartment is for sale because everyone in it died of leukemia...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314058</id>
	<title>Please put a meat thermometer in your thigh . . .</title>
	<author>PolygamousRanchKid </author>
	<datestamp>1267447680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>. . . and send a message to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. with the subject, "DING! DING! DING!", just before you are "done."
</p><p>So we will all know that it is dinner time, and we can come over to eat you.
</p><p>I got dibs on the braaaaiiiiinnn.
</p><p>On the serious side, ask the seller If you can put a couple of lab rats in a cage for a month in the apartment, before you settle.  If they end up looking like Kentucky Fried Rats, pass on the apartment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.
. .
and send a message to / .
with the subject , " DING !
DING ! DING !
" , just before you are " done .
" So we will all know that it is dinner time , and we can come over to eat you .
I got dibs on the braaaaiiiiinnn .
On the serious side , ask the seller If you can put a couple of lab rats in a cage for a month in the apartment , before you settle .
If they end up looking like Kentucky Fried Rats , pass on the apartment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.
. .
and send a message to /.
with the subject, "DING!
DING! DING!
", just before you are "done.
"
So we will all know that it is dinner time, and we can come over to eat you.
I got dibs on the braaaaiiiiinnn.
On the serious side, ask the seller If you can put a couple of lab rats in a cage for a month in the apartment, before you settle.
If they end up looking like Kentucky Fried Rats, pass on the apartment.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314274</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>c6gunner</author>
	<datestamp>1267449660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is that why it has been observed that children living under power lines had a 70\% increased risk of leukemia?</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/emf.html" title="quackwatch.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/emf.html</a> [quackwatch.org] </p><p><div class="quote"><p>Is that why DDT has been sprayed directly onto people as a standard anti-mosquito practice?</p></div><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria</a> [wikipedia.org] </p><p><div class="quote"><p>History has a pretty long damning list of cases where the dangers are only known after the stuff that causes them is widely deployed.</p></div><p>So your solution is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... avoid everything?  How much does it cost to live in a clean-room, anyway?</p><p>Just out of curiosity, I gotta ask<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... why do you hate science?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that why it has been observed that children living under power lines had a 70 \ % increased risk of leukemia ?
http : //www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/emf.html [ quackwatch.org ] Is that why DDT has been sprayed directly onto people as a standard anti-mosquito practice ?
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria [ wikipedia.org ] History has a pretty long damning list of cases where the dangers are only known after the stuff that causes them is widely deployed.So your solution is .... avoid everything ?
How much does it cost to live in a clean-room , anyway ? Just out of curiosity , I got ta ask ... why do you hate science ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that why it has been observed that children living under power lines had a 70\% increased risk of leukemia?
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/emf.html [quackwatch.org] Is that why DDT has been sprayed directly onto people as a standard anti-mosquito practice?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria [wikipedia.org] History has a pretty long damning list of cases where the dangers are only known after the stuff that causes them is widely deployed.So your solution is .... avoid everything?
How much does it cost to live in a clean-room, anyway?Just out of curiosity, I gotta ask ... why do you hate science?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315196</id>
	<title>Jose</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267455780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is the risk of having a car accident? Do you keep on using a car?</p><p>Another example is "Mad Cow Disease". People stop buying/eating beef meat. In USA 3 people died of vCJD:<br>http://www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/vcjdworld.htm<br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine\_spongiform\_encephalopathy</p><p>But nothing has stopped selling tobacco.<br>http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data\_statistics/tables/health/attrdeaths/</p><p>I guess we are all likely to die in any other way.</p><p>Enjoy your flat!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is the risk of having a car accident ?
Do you keep on using a car ? Another example is " Mad Cow Disease " .
People stop buying/eating beef meat .
In USA 3 people died of vCJD : http : //www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/vcjdworld.htmhttp : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine \ _spongiform \ _encephalopathyBut nothing has stopped selling tobacco.http : //www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data \ _statistics/tables/health/attrdeaths/I guess we are all likely to die in any other way.Enjoy your flat !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is the risk of having a car accident?
Do you keep on using a car?Another example is "Mad Cow Disease".
People stop buying/eating beef meat.
In USA 3 people died of vCJD:http://www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/vcjdworld.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine\_spongiform\_encephalopathyBut nothing has stopped selling tobacco.http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data\_statistics/tables/health/attrdeaths/I guess we are all likely to die in any other way.Enjoy your flat!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314900</id>
	<title>Buyer's Market</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267453860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a buyer's market for luxury property in Manhattan right now. Express your concerns to the sellers and hint that you'll need to have a survey team out to test for EMF exposure before you'd consider buying. Build an image in their minds of 3-4 guys in Tyvek jumpsuits walking around with meters on the roof and in the halls and knocking on your future neighbor's doors. (There's no reason for them to wear Tyvek jumpsuits, but you get the idea.) They'll likely offer to drop the price in exchange for you not doing that. More than enough to cover the cost of shielding and chemotherapy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a buyer 's market for luxury property in Manhattan right now .
Express your concerns to the sellers and hint that you 'll need to have a survey team out to test for EMF exposure before you 'd consider buying .
Build an image in their minds of 3-4 guys in Tyvek jumpsuits walking around with meters on the roof and in the halls and knocking on your future neighbor 's doors .
( There 's no reason for them to wear Tyvek jumpsuits , but you get the idea .
) They 'll likely offer to drop the price in exchange for you not doing that .
More than enough to cover the cost of shielding and chemotherapy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a buyer's market for luxury property in Manhattan right now.
Express your concerns to the sellers and hint that you'll need to have a survey team out to test for EMF exposure before you'd consider buying.
Build an image in their minds of 3-4 guys in Tyvek jumpsuits walking around with meters on the roof and in the halls and knocking on your future neighbor's doors.
(There's no reason for them to wear Tyvek jumpsuits, but you get the idea.
) They'll likely offer to drop the price in exchange for you not doing that.
More than enough to cover the cost of shielding and chemotherapy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317796</id>
	<title>WTF</title>
	<author>Javarufus</author>
	<datestamp>1267465260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you're a jack-ass because you're stating that you have enough money to purchase penthouse real estate in Manhattan!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you 're a jack-ass because you 're stating that you have enough money to purchase penthouse real estate in Manhattan !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you're a jack-ass because you're stating that you have enough money to purchase penthouse real estate in Manhattan!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319910</id>
	<title>Perception, not fact.</title>
	<author>mrthoughtful</author>
	<datestamp>1267473240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it's cheap because everyone fears the radiation, regardless of whether or not it will cook you, you will have trouble selling it for the same reason.<br>If you are worried in the least, don't buy it. You don't need the stress.<br>If you want to be clever and get a bargain because you don't need to fear, then (if you can) get someone to measure the RF over a week; chances are it will be okay, but what do I know?<br>As an investment, remember that the market always depends upon perceived value. Having some gigantic wire beast staring at the window will generate fear in many buyers. Probably why it's going cheap in the first place.</p><p>If you are ever thinking of selling, it's probably better just to go for a nice flat that doesn't have any threatening uber-wire modern science gizmo just outside the window. Nothing to do with risk to health, everything to do with perception of risk to health.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's cheap because everyone fears the radiation , regardless of whether or not it will cook you , you will have trouble selling it for the same reason.If you are worried in the least , do n't buy it .
You do n't need the stress.If you want to be clever and get a bargain because you do n't need to fear , then ( if you can ) get someone to measure the RF over a week ; chances are it will be okay , but what do I know ? As an investment , remember that the market always depends upon perceived value .
Having some gigantic wire beast staring at the window will generate fear in many buyers .
Probably why it 's going cheap in the first place.If you are ever thinking of selling , it 's probably better just to go for a nice flat that does n't have any threatening uber-wire modern science gizmo just outside the window .
Nothing to do with risk to health , everything to do with perception of risk to health .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's cheap because everyone fears the radiation, regardless of whether or not it will cook you, you will have trouble selling it for the same reason.If you are worried in the least, don't buy it.
You don't need the stress.If you want to be clever and get a bargain because you don't need to fear, then (if you can) get someone to measure the RF over a week; chances are it will be okay, but what do I know?As an investment, remember that the market always depends upon perceived value.
Having some gigantic wire beast staring at the window will generate fear in many buyers.
Probably why it's going cheap in the first place.If you are ever thinking of selling, it's probably better just to go for a nice flat that doesn't have any threatening uber-wire modern science gizmo just outside the window.
Nothing to do with risk to health, everything to do with perception of risk to health.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31327168</id>
	<title>cell info</title>
	<author>max847</author>
	<datestamp>1267560360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>cell towers tend to  operate in the 900 to 1.2 ghz range  just like any radiation range time and shielding   are factors  there are electromagnetic meters that can show you your exposier,  sometimes a cheap AM radio can on static can give interesting results.  the higher the frequency the smaller the fish  and the better "net" you need.  the shielding doesnt need to be thick or even  block light  very fine metal screen or metalic mylar may give shielding,  a multimeter that shows conduction  and the film is grounded  properly can be effective. also flat pannels attached at 90 degree angle will reflect the radiation away, if the cell company complains you can use the argument that the freq energy is too low to be harmful to people should also not be harmful to equipment especially at double the distance. im not an expert so take with grain of salt,, might take a look at amateur radio info or find a ham operator,, even if it doesnt directly effect you  it may effect other items like electronics, also walls are no garentee of protection.</htmltext>
<tokenext>cell towers tend to operate in the 900 to 1.2 ghz range just like any radiation range time and shielding are factors there are electromagnetic meters that can show you your exposier , sometimes a cheap AM radio can on static can give interesting results .
the higher the frequency the smaller the fish and the better " net " you need .
the shielding doesnt need to be thick or even block light very fine metal screen or metalic mylar may give shielding , a multimeter that shows conduction and the film is grounded properly can be effective .
also flat pannels attached at 90 degree angle will reflect the radiation away , if the cell company complains you can use the argument that the freq energy is too low to be harmful to people should also not be harmful to equipment especially at double the distance .
im not an expert so take with grain of salt, , might take a look at amateur radio info or find a ham operator, , even if it doesnt directly effect you it may effect other items like electronics , also walls are no garentee of protection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cell towers tend to  operate in the 900 to 1.2 ghz range  just like any radiation range time and shielding   are factors  there are electromagnetic meters that can show you your exposier,  sometimes a cheap AM radio can on static can give interesting results.
the higher the frequency the smaller the fish  and the better "net" you need.
the shielding doesnt need to be thick or even  block light  very fine metal screen or metalic mylar may give shielding,  a multimeter that shows conduction  and the film is grounded  properly can be effective.
also flat pannels attached at 90 degree angle will reflect the radiation away, if the cell company complains you can use the argument that the freq energy is too low to be harmful to people should also not be harmful to equipment especially at double the distance.
im not an expert so take with grain of salt,, might take a look at amateur radio info or find a ham operator,, even if it doesnt directly effect you  it may effect other items like electronics, also walls are no garentee of protection.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319040</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267469820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DDT is still in use.  Just not in certain places.  And (theoretically) more precision applications.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DDT is still in use .
Just not in certain places .
And ( theoretically ) more precision applications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DDT is still in use.
Just not in certain places.
And (theoretically) more precision applications.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315652</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314666</id>
	<title>Get rid of antenna</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267452540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get some tin foil and wrap it around the antenna.<br>Wait until some cell dude comes up to check why cells not working.<br>Remove tin foil before he see's it.</p><p>Repeat process.</p><p>Eventually no antenna!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get some tin foil and wrap it around the antenna.Wait until some cell dude comes up to check why cells not working.Remove tin foil before he see 's it.Repeat process.Eventually no antenna ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get some tin foil and wrap it around the antenna.Wait until some cell dude comes up to check why cells not working.Remove tin foil before he see's it.Repeat process.Eventually no antenna!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320020</id>
	<title>120 degrees</title>
	<author>mikeiver1</author>
	<datestamp>1267473660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cell antennas are usually 120 degree radiators with a down tilt bias for terrestrial service.  IF the antennas are on the same plane as one of the walls of the apartment you are thinking of buying then likely there is little to no issue here.  The antenna have very little side lobe.  FYI, The output power from a cell tower is several hundred  Watts.  A couple of hundred should get someone to do an RF sweep of the pat to either confirm or allay fears.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cell antennas are usually 120 degree radiators with a down tilt bias for terrestrial service .
IF the antennas are on the same plane as one of the walls of the apartment you are thinking of buying then likely there is little to no issue here .
The antenna have very little side lobe .
FYI , The output power from a cell tower is several hundred Watts .
A couple of hundred should get someone to do an RF sweep of the pat to either confirm or allay fears .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cell antennas are usually 120 degree radiators with a down tilt bias for terrestrial service.
IF the antennas are on the same plane as one of the walls of the apartment you are thinking of buying then likely there is little to no issue here.
The antenna have very little side lobe.
FYI, The output power from a cell tower is several hundred  Watts.
A couple of hundred should get someone to do an RF sweep of the pat to either confirm or allay fears.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315012</id>
	<title>big-ass x-ray</title>
	<author>kallisti5</author>
	<datestamp>1267454640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Buy a used X-ray tube, hook it up and point it directly at the antenna... some safty is gotta trigger to shut the antenna down, also you irradiate yourself and your neighbors, then just sit back and sue the cell phone company.  win-win.. minus the radiation poisoning.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ9TYCZXzcE" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ9TYCZXzcE</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy a used X-ray tube , hook it up and point it directly at the antenna... some safty is got ta trigger to shut the antenna down , also you irradiate yourself and your neighbors , then just sit back and sue the cell phone company .
win-win.. minus the radiation poisoning .
http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = iJ9TYCZXzcE [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy a used X-ray tube, hook it up and point it directly at the antenna... some safty is gotta trigger to shut the antenna down, also you irradiate yourself and your neighbors, then just sit back and sue the cell phone company.
win-win.. minus the radiation poisoning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ9TYCZXzcE [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319078</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267470060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Malaria isn't of any significant concern in the US, and DDT has never been banned for anti-malaria use in the countries that do have malaria concerns (e.g. African countries).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Malaria is n't of any significant concern in the US , and DDT has never been banned for anti-malaria use in the countries that do have malaria concerns ( e.g .
African countries ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Malaria isn't of any significant concern in the US, and DDT has never been banned for anti-malaria use in the countries that do have malaria concerns (e.g.
African countries).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314592</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31322584</id>
	<title>Re:Conductive films, cloths, or plastics...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267440120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows. Combine that with some metallic fabrics on the walls on that side. www.lessemf.com is one of many suppliers for those products. I've used a conductive plastic from those folks to make a shielded rack for some RF sensitive equipment.</p></div><p>I just want to know when the Linux version is out. Damn non-free EMF reducers...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows .
Combine that with some metallic fabrics on the walls on that side .
www.lessemf.com is one of many suppliers for those products .
I 've used a conductive plastic from those folks to make a shielded rack for some RF sensitive equipment.I just want to know when the Linux version is out .
Damn non-free EMF reducers.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows.
Combine that with some metallic fabrics on the walls on that side.
www.lessemf.com is one of many suppliers for those products.
I've used a conductive plastic from those folks to make a shielded rack for some RF sensitive equipment.I just want to know when the Linux version is out.
Damn non-free EMF reducers...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313910</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314468</id>
	<title>Re:cell tower next to village</title>
	<author>gravis777</author>
	<datestamp>1267451160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think its just silly. I live about 500 feet from an AT&amp;T tower in my area. Neither me, nor people who live closer to it, have ever experienced any issues because of it. Maybe its because we are Texans and too stupid to worry about it, or maybe the amount of radiation it puts out is so minimal it doesn't affect anyone. I can tell you there are no mutated squirls running around, and my Pecans on my tree are just as safe to eat and tasty as those I buy at the store.</p><p>On the plus side, I get awesome reception and 3G service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think its just silly .
I live about 500 feet from an AT&amp;T tower in my area .
Neither me , nor people who live closer to it , have ever experienced any issues because of it .
Maybe its because we are Texans and too stupid to worry about it , or maybe the amount of radiation it puts out is so minimal it does n't affect anyone .
I can tell you there are no mutated squirls running around , and my Pecans on my tree are just as safe to eat and tasty as those I buy at the store.On the plus side , I get awesome reception and 3G service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think its just silly.
I live about 500 feet from an AT&amp;T tower in my area.
Neither me, nor people who live closer to it, have ever experienced any issues because of it.
Maybe its because we are Texans and too stupid to worry about it, or maybe the amount of radiation it puts out is so minimal it doesn't affect anyone.
I can tell you there are no mutated squirls running around, and my Pecans on my tree are just as safe to eat and tasty as those I buy at the store.On the plus side, I get awesome reception and 3G service.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313946</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319392</id>
	<title>Re:You can afford</title>
	<author>guspasho</author>
	<datestamp>1267471320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the answer the OP really wants is whether fear over cell phone tower radiation will stop depressing prices anytime soon. That way he can buy the apartment at the depressed, "killer" price, and make a bundle selling it later.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the answer the OP really wants is whether fear over cell phone tower radiation will stop depressing prices anytime soon .
That way he can buy the apartment at the depressed , " killer " price , and make a bundle selling it later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the answer the OP really wants is whether fear over cell phone tower radiation will stop depressing prices anytime soon.
That way he can buy the apartment at the depressed, "killer" price, and make a bundle selling it later.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314456</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314398</id>
	<title>The only solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267450680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Fill the apartment with mice<br>2. ???<br>3. Some of them are bound to get cancer<br>4. Profit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Fill the apartment with mice2 .
? ? ? 3. Some of them are bound to get cancer4 .
Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Fill the apartment with mice2.
???3. Some of them are bound to get cancer4.
Profit!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314454</id>
	<title>A contrarian viewpoint</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267451040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not get together some simple equipment and measure the field intensity ?<br>A common analog field-strength meter is about twenty bucks, you can set the sensitivity knob against the emission from your cellphone, then walk through the apartment watching the meter.  Not accurately calibrated in microvolts / meter but a metric nonetheless.<br>Actually getting data is more useful than arguing about what somebodys paper said.<br>Having said all that, my gut feeling would still be to walk away and let an optimist buy that penthouse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not get together some simple equipment and measure the field intensity ? A common analog field-strength meter is about twenty bucks , you can set the sensitivity knob against the emission from your cellphone , then walk through the apartment watching the meter .
Not accurately calibrated in microvolts / meter but a metric nonetheless.Actually getting data is more useful than arguing about what somebodys paper said.Having said all that , my gut feeling would still be to walk away and let an optimist buy that penthouse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not get together some simple equipment and measure the field intensity ?A common analog field-strength meter is about twenty bucks, you can set the sensitivity knob against the emission from your cellphone, then walk through the apartment watching the meter.
Not accurately calibrated in microvolts / meter but a metric nonetheless.Actually getting data is more useful than arguing about what somebodys paper said.Having said all that, my gut feeling would still be to walk away and let an optimist buy that penthouse.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316268</id>
	<title>Shield it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267459500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it concerns you remodel the apartment and shield it in the process.  copper foil behind the walls in the ceiling and floor, copper mesh in the windows.  Make sure you tie it all together electrically.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it concerns you remodel the apartment and shield it in the process .
copper foil behind the walls in the ceiling and floor , copper mesh in the windows .
Make sure you tie it all together electrically .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it concerns you remodel the apartment and shield it in the process.
copper foil behind the walls in the ceiling and floor, copper mesh in the windows.
Make sure you tie it all together electrically.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313854</id>
	<title>On the  plus side,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267445160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you'll get great reception.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you 'll get great reception .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you'll get great reception.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314990</id>
	<title>It's not like there's a shortage of penthouses</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1267454460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in manhattan. Take a different one. Yes it likely has no effect at all (actually what frequency are they, you could put a lot of material that absorbs it to heat your apartment in winter, I kid, I kid) but you are considering it and so will potential buyers down the line when the second leg down in this recession means you can't make the payments anymore.</p><p>Also, if you are buying it it isn't an apartment it's a condo (heck it's NYC could be a co-op even), right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in manhattan .
Take a different one .
Yes it likely has no effect at all ( actually what frequency are they , you could put a lot of material that absorbs it to heat your apartment in winter , I kid , I kid ) but you are considering it and so will potential buyers down the line when the second leg down in this recession means you ca n't make the payments anymore.Also , if you are buying it it is n't an apartment it 's a condo ( heck it 's NYC could be a co-op even ) , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in manhattan.
Take a different one.
Yes it likely has no effect at all (actually what frequency are they, you could put a lot of material that absorbs it to heat your apartment in winter, I kid, I kid) but you are considering it and so will potential buyers down the line when the second leg down in this recession means you can't make the payments anymore.Also, if you are buying it it isn't an apartment it's a condo (heck it's NYC could be a co-op even), right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318692</id>
	<title>Re:The facts about urban wireless towers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267468440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's what I don't understand about these antenna array towers.  Everyone officially keeps saying they are "low power" yet at the base of nearly every freaking one of them they have so god damn many phases of power going to green boxes with giant capacitors?  I don't know about you, but that sounds like lots of CURRENT to run lots of RF!</p><p>For example if I buy a CB radio say a 2950 off eBay and plug it in I need probably a 3 to 4 Amp power supply to get her up an running, but if I add a 2KW amp I now need 13.8VDC @ 200 AMPS or better!!! (like those killer grey faced military power supplies that you can bridge)</p><p>Any way my point here is<br>@ 3 Amps the power supply is about the size of the radio<br>@ 200 Amps the power supply is three and a half feet tall and maybe two and a half feet wide more than hundred pounds weight</p><p>While they say these antenna array's are low RF power, the power being supplied to them is anything but LOW power.  I ain't trying to be paranoid, just stating what I have observed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's what I do n't understand about these antenna array towers .
Everyone officially keeps saying they are " low power " yet at the base of nearly every freaking one of them they have so god damn many phases of power going to green boxes with giant capacitors ?
I do n't know about you , but that sounds like lots of CURRENT to run lots of RF ! For example if I buy a CB radio say a 2950 off eBay and plug it in I need probably a 3 to 4 Amp power supply to get her up an running , but if I add a 2KW amp I now need 13.8VDC @ 200 AMPS or better ! ! !
( like those killer grey faced military power supplies that you can bridge ) Any way my point here is @ 3 Amps the power supply is about the size of the radio @ 200 Amps the power supply is three and a half feet tall and maybe two and a half feet wide more than hundred pounds weightWhile they say these antenna array 's are low RF power , the power being supplied to them is anything but LOW power .
I ai n't trying to be paranoid , just stating what I have observed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's what I don't understand about these antenna array towers.
Everyone officially keeps saying they are "low power" yet at the base of nearly every freaking one of them they have so god damn many phases of power going to green boxes with giant capacitors?
I don't know about you, but that sounds like lots of CURRENT to run lots of RF!For example if I buy a CB radio say a 2950 off eBay and plug it in I need probably a 3 to 4 Amp power supply to get her up an running, but if I add a 2KW amp I now need 13.8VDC @ 200 AMPS or better!!!
(like those killer grey faced military power supplies that you can bridge)Any way my point here is@ 3 Amps the power supply is about the size of the radio@ 200 Amps the power supply is three and a half feet tall and maybe two and a half feet wide more than hundred pounds weightWhile they say these antenna array's are low RF power, the power being supplied to them is anything but LOW power.
I ain't trying to be paranoid, just stating what I have observed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320734</id>
	<title>Concerns affect value</title>
	<author>Quenyar</author>
	<datestamp>1267476660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Remember that any concern you can have another buyer can have. This will effect the value of the apartment negatively. It is highly probable that other health-affective environmental factors may kill you before you would succumb to the radiation exposure from this apartment and exhibit any symptoms therefrom... or it might be the straw that broke the camel's back.  But I guarantee you one thing: you will never be able to prove anything in a court of law that would win you damages in a law suit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember that any concern you can have another buyer can have .
This will effect the value of the apartment negatively .
It is highly probable that other health-affective environmental factors may kill you before you would succumb to the radiation exposure from this apartment and exhibit any symptoms therefrom... or it might be the straw that broke the camel 's back .
But I guarantee you one thing : you will never be able to prove anything in a court of law that would win you damages in a law suit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember that any concern you can have another buyer can have.
This will effect the value of the apartment negatively.
It is highly probable that other health-affective environmental factors may kill you before you would succumb to the radiation exposure from this apartment and exhibit any symptoms therefrom... or it might be the straw that broke the camel's back.
But I guarantee you one thing: you will never be able to prove anything in a court of law that would win you damages in a law suit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314134</id>
	<title>a jackass?</title>
	<author>characterZer0</author>
	<datestamp>1267448220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I am considering buying a penthouse apartment in Manhattan</p></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><p>Am I just being a jackass?</p></div></blockquote><p>Probably.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am considering buying a penthouse apartment in ManhattanAm I just being a jackass ? Probably .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am considering buying a penthouse apartment in ManhattanAm I just being a jackass?Probably.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314304</id>
	<title>Cage?</title>
	<author>segwonk</author>
	<datestamp>1267449960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someone help me out here:

 Wouldn't this be the right occasion to install a Faraday Cage??<p>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday\_cage/" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday\_cage/</a> [wikipedia.org]

</p><p>
- jw</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone help me out here : Would n't this be the right occasion to install a Faraday Cage ? ?
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday \ _cage/ [ wikipedia.org ] - jw</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone help me out here:

 Wouldn't this be the right occasion to install a Faraday Cage??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday\_cage/ [wikipedia.org]


- jw</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314200</id>
	<title>whois playing the 'race' card now?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267448940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why the US 'banking' system et al. who do they hate? they do feel justified. they have to.</p><p>the corepirate nazi illuminati is always hunting that patch of red on almost everyones' neck. if they cannot find yours (greed, fear ego etc...) then you can go starve. that's their platform now. they do pull A LOT of major strings.</p><p>continued God's speed to you Mr. President.</p><p>never a better time for all of us to consult with/trust in our creators. the lights are coming up rapidly all over now. see you there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why the US 'banking ' system et al .
who do they hate ?
they do feel justified .
they have to.the corepirate nazi illuminati is always hunting that patch of red on almost everyones ' neck .
if they can not find yours ( greed , fear ego etc... ) then you can go starve .
that 's their platform now .
they do pull A LOT of major strings.continued God 's speed to you Mr. President.never a better time for all of us to consult with/trust in our creators .
the lights are coming up rapidly all over now .
see you there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why the US 'banking' system et al.
who do they hate?
they do feel justified.
they have to.the corepirate nazi illuminati is always hunting that patch of red on almost everyones' neck.
if they cannot find yours (greed, fear ego etc...) then you can go starve.
that's their platform now.
they do pull A LOT of major strings.continued God's speed to you Mr. President.never a better time for all of us to consult with/trust in our creators.
the lights are coming up rapidly all over now.
see you there?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313864</id>
	<title>Insert small coil</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267445280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you're that close, you should be able to put a small coil of wire in your apartment and induce a nice free electric current. It won't make you popular with the owners of the antenna but what do they know?

Otherwise no, I don't see a problem with RF.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're that close , you should be able to put a small coil of wire in your apartment and induce a nice free electric current .
It wo n't make you popular with the owners of the antenna but what do they know ?
Otherwise no , I do n't see a problem with RF .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're that close, you should be able to put a small coil of wire in your apartment and induce a nice free electric current.
It won't make you popular with the owners of the antenna but what do they know?
Otherwise no, I don't see a problem with RF.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31323374</id>
	<title>Re:There are a lot of variables</title>
	<author>Bigjeff5</author>
	<datestamp>1267443120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate to tell you this, but there are no "known guaranteed safe" levels of <b>anything</b>.  "Safe" is a negative, it means "not dangerous".  There is absolutely no way to prove conclusively that something is not dangerous.  The best you can do is either prove or fail to prove that something is dangerous.  Failing to prove it is dangerous is not quite the same as proving something is safe, but that is the best we can do.</p><p>That's why consumer products are subjected to a bevy of tests to see if they are dangerous.  If the product fails to be dangerous, we can be reasonably certain that it is safe.  However, it isn't a proof that the product is safe, and we can and do miss things.  That is why products are recalled on occasion - it passed all the tests but something unexpected proved to be dangerous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate to tell you this , but there are no " known guaranteed safe " levels of anything .
" Safe " is a negative , it means " not dangerous " .
There is absolutely no way to prove conclusively that something is not dangerous .
The best you can do is either prove or fail to prove that something is dangerous .
Failing to prove it is dangerous is not quite the same as proving something is safe , but that is the best we can do.That 's why consumer products are subjected to a bevy of tests to see if they are dangerous .
If the product fails to be dangerous , we can be reasonably certain that it is safe .
However , it is n't a proof that the product is safe , and we can and do miss things .
That is why products are recalled on occasion - it passed all the tests but something unexpected proved to be dangerous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate to tell you this, but there are no "known guaranteed safe" levels of anything.
"Safe" is a negative, it means "not dangerous".
There is absolutely no way to prove conclusively that something is not dangerous.
The best you can do is either prove or fail to prove that something is dangerous.
Failing to prove it is dangerous is not quite the same as proving something is safe, but that is the best we can do.That's why consumer products are subjected to a bevy of tests to see if they are dangerous.
If the product fails to be dangerous, we can be reasonably certain that it is safe.
However, it isn't a proof that the product is safe, and we can and do miss things.
That is why products are recalled on occasion - it passed all the tests but something unexpected proved to be dangerous.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31340074</id>
	<title>Lightning</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267547760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Radiation, shmadiation. You folks are all worried about tin-hat stuff.</p><p>Here's the real danger<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... lightning strikes.</p><p>Seriously, as someone who has been nearby several times when antennas and towers have been hit by lightning, and seen and felt the damage, I wouldn't worry about radiation at all. And I was a LOT further away than this apartment. Once you've witnessed and experienced the incredible power of lighting, you'll respect it like nothing else. Once you've smelled ionized air and had to throw away clothes that forever smelled burned, even though they were nowhere near, or smelled burning everything for two weeks afterward, then you'll respect lightning.</p><p>One example<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... our AM radio station towers got hit all the time, but it's always different. One blew the wooden people door right off its hinges. Another blew the main service panel off the wall, across the room, and through the window on the other side. Another wiped out the service panel in a farmhouse a quarter mile away. Another blew out all the tires on the cars in the gravel parking lot about 50' from the base of the tower.</p><p>So I say screw the radiation concern; you'll be forced out of the apartment by lightning strikes.<br>Oh, and good luck with those Chinese power strips, bucky. If you post on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/., then you already own too much equipment to risk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Radiation , shmadiation .
You folks are all worried about tin-hat stuff.Here 's the real danger ... lightning strikes.Seriously , as someone who has been nearby several times when antennas and towers have been hit by lightning , and seen and felt the damage , I would n't worry about radiation at all .
And I was a LOT further away than this apartment .
Once you 've witnessed and experienced the incredible power of lighting , you 'll respect it like nothing else .
Once you 've smelled ionized air and had to throw away clothes that forever smelled burned , even though they were nowhere near , or smelled burning everything for two weeks afterward , then you 'll respect lightning.One example ... our AM radio station towers got hit all the time , but it 's always different .
One blew the wooden people door right off its hinges .
Another blew the main service panel off the wall , across the room , and through the window on the other side .
Another wiped out the service panel in a farmhouse a quarter mile away .
Another blew out all the tires on the cars in the gravel parking lot about 50 ' from the base of the tower.So I say screw the radiation concern ; you 'll be forced out of the apartment by lightning strikes.Oh , and good luck with those Chinese power strips , bucky .
If you post on /. , then you already own too much equipment to risk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Radiation, shmadiation.
You folks are all worried about tin-hat stuff.Here's the real danger ... lightning strikes.Seriously, as someone who has been nearby several times when antennas and towers have been hit by lightning, and seen and felt the damage, I wouldn't worry about radiation at all.
And I was a LOT further away than this apartment.
Once you've witnessed and experienced the incredible power of lighting, you'll respect it like nothing else.
Once you've smelled ionized air and had to throw away clothes that forever smelled burned, even though they were nowhere near, or smelled burning everything for two weeks afterward, then you'll respect lightning.One example ... our AM radio station towers got hit all the time, but it's always different.
One blew the wooden people door right off its hinges.
Another blew the main service panel off the wall, across the room, and through the window on the other side.
Another wiped out the service panel in a farmhouse a quarter mile away.
Another blew out all the tires on the cars in the gravel parking lot about 50' from the base of the tower.So I say screw the radiation concern; you'll be forced out of the apartment by lightning strikes.Oh, and good luck with those Chinese power strips, bucky.
If you post on /., then you already own too much equipment to risk.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316354</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>imakemusic</author>
	<datestamp>1267459740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, he's suggesting that he move into the apartment and report back at regular intervals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , he 's suggesting that he move into the apartment and report back at regular intervals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, he's suggesting that he move into the apartment and report back at regular intervals.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316638</id>
	<title>Buy it, now!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267461000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DUDE, DUDE! Buy the apartment, now!</p><p>You're going to have the \_best\_ 3G data connection!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DUDE , DUDE !
Buy the apartment , now ! You 're going to have the \ _best \ _ 3G data connection ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DUDE, DUDE!
Buy the apartment, now!You're going to have the \_best\_ 3G data connection!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314578</id>
	<title>Re:I heard...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267452000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aren't there more powerlines in the city?<br>If there are more powerlines and more people in the city, seems like the city should be the group more affected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are n't there more powerlines in the city ? If there are more powerlines and more people in the city , seems like the city should be the group more affected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aren't there more powerlines in the city?If there are more powerlines and more people in the city, seems like the city should be the group more affected.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313942</id>
	<title>The facts about urban wireless towers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267446120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The facts about urban wireless towers is that they're very low power because of the high population density.  They use very small cells in urban towers to achieve a very small coverage radius so that they can put up more towers in the city and reuse the same spectrum.  Furthermore, just being in-doors cuts the power level 10-fold and I'd really doubt that you're getting more than -40 dBm which is equivalent to 100 nanowatts of power even if you're outside the windows.  My Wi-Fi Access Point is 5 feet from me and it's got a power level of -13 dBm which is about 1000 times stronger than a -40 dBm signal.  Now if you think that's high, your cell phone probably has a signal strength of +10 dBm which means the power density is 100,000 times stronger than a -40 dBm signal.  And if you think the phone is dangerous, check out this article from me <a href="http://www.digitalsociety.org/2009/09/sar-ratings-are-not-a-measure-of-radiation/" title="digitalsociety.org">http://www.digitalsociety.org/2009/09/sar-ratings-are-not-a-measure-of-radiation/</a> [digitalsociety.org] and this article <a href="http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/01/cell-phone-exposure-prevents-or-reverses-alzheimer-in-mice/" title="digitalsociety.org">http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/01/cell-phone-exposure-prevents-or-reverses-alzheimer-in-mice/</a> [digitalsociety.org].  So really, worrying about that cellular tower is just silly.  If you're really worried about it, buy one of those $100 "Electrosmog" meters and measure the signal strength yourself at various places.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The facts about urban wireless towers is that they 're very low power because of the high population density .
They use very small cells in urban towers to achieve a very small coverage radius so that they can put up more towers in the city and reuse the same spectrum .
Furthermore , just being in-doors cuts the power level 10-fold and I 'd really doubt that you 're getting more than -40 dBm which is equivalent to 100 nanowatts of power even if you 're outside the windows .
My Wi-Fi Access Point is 5 feet from me and it 's got a power level of -13 dBm which is about 1000 times stronger than a -40 dBm signal .
Now if you think that 's high , your cell phone probably has a signal strength of + 10 dBm which means the power density is 100,000 times stronger than a -40 dBm signal .
And if you think the phone is dangerous , check out this article from me http : //www.digitalsociety.org/2009/09/sar-ratings-are-not-a-measure-of-radiation/ [ digitalsociety.org ] and this article http : //www.digitalsociety.org/2010/01/cell-phone-exposure-prevents-or-reverses-alzheimer-in-mice/ [ digitalsociety.org ] .
So really , worrying about that cellular tower is just silly .
If you 're really worried about it , buy one of those $ 100 " Electrosmog " meters and measure the signal strength yourself at various places .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The facts about urban wireless towers is that they're very low power because of the high population density.
They use very small cells in urban towers to achieve a very small coverage radius so that they can put up more towers in the city and reuse the same spectrum.
Furthermore, just being in-doors cuts the power level 10-fold and I'd really doubt that you're getting more than -40 dBm which is equivalent to 100 nanowatts of power even if you're outside the windows.
My Wi-Fi Access Point is 5 feet from me and it's got a power level of -13 dBm which is about 1000 times stronger than a -40 dBm signal.
Now if you think that's high, your cell phone probably has a signal strength of +10 dBm which means the power density is 100,000 times stronger than a -40 dBm signal.
And if you think the phone is dangerous, check out this article from me http://www.digitalsociety.org/2009/09/sar-ratings-are-not-a-measure-of-radiation/ [digitalsociety.org] and this article http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/01/cell-phone-exposure-prevents-or-reverses-alzheimer-in-mice/ [digitalsociety.org].
So really, worrying about that cellular tower is just silly.
If you're really worried about it, buy one of those $100 "Electrosmog" meters and measure the signal strength yourself at various places.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314210</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267449000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The good point is that you won't need heating, you'll always be hot<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The good point is that you wo n't need heating , you 'll always be hot ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The good point is that you won't need heating, you'll always be hot ;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317426</id>
	<title>Two words ...</title>
	<author>Rambo Tribble</author>
	<datestamp>1267463820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... Faraday cage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... Faraday cage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... Faraday cage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315154</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1267455540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Haven't you seen the 'living in the age of wonders' videos from the 50s that showed kids swimming in pools that were being fogged with DDT?</p><p>Controlling malaria is probably a sane use of it, but they were way past that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have n't you seen the 'living in the age of wonders ' videos from the 50s that showed kids swimming in pools that were being fogged with DDT ? Controlling malaria is probably a sane use of it , but they were way past that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haven't you seen the 'living in the age of wonders' videos from the 50s that showed kids swimming in pools that were being fogged with DDT?Controlling malaria is probably a sane use of it, but they were way past that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314592</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313862</id>
	<title>not expensive to use wire mesh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267445280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it bothers you in any case, it doesn't cost a lot to line your walls with appropriate size mesh, it's a good opportunite to mend and paint walls/change wallpapers as well. I certainly do it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it bothers you in any case , it does n't cost a lot to line your walls with appropriate size mesh , it 's a good opportunite to mend and paint walls/change wallpapers as well .
I certainly do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it bothers you in any case, it doesn't cost a lot to line your walls with appropriate size mesh, it's a good opportunite to mend and paint walls/change wallpapers as well.
I certainly do it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315564</id>
	<title>Re:Normally...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267457220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Put a hot dog on a long stick and point it out the window towards the microwave array on a non-windy day.  If the hot dog doesn't start sizzling after a few minutes, you're probably safe.</p><p>If you have any doubts, don't buy the apartment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Put a hot dog on a long stick and point it out the window towards the microwave array on a non-windy day .
If the hot dog does n't start sizzling after a few minutes , you 're probably safe.If you have any doubts , do n't buy the apartment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Put a hot dog on a long stick and point it out the window towards the microwave array on a non-windy day.
If the hot dog doesn't start sizzling after a few minutes, you're probably safe.If you have any doubts, don't buy the apartment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316196</id>
	<title>Conflicting information</title>
	<author>joeyblades</author>
	<datestamp>1267459320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Generally accepted scientific information from the FCC suggests that beyond about 5 meters from the antenna, the power levels are sufficiently safe. However a couple of studies in Germany and Israel suggest that the incidence of cancer is increased by 3 to 4 times at distances of several hundred meters. If it were me, I would play it safe and not take that apartment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Generally accepted scientific information from the FCC suggests that beyond about 5 meters from the antenna , the power levels are sufficiently safe .
However a couple of studies in Germany and Israel suggest that the incidence of cancer is increased by 3 to 4 times at distances of several hundred meters .
If it were me , I would play it safe and not take that apartment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Generally accepted scientific information from the FCC suggests that beyond about 5 meters from the antenna, the power levels are sufficiently safe.
However a couple of studies in Germany and Israel suggest that the incidence of cancer is increased by 3 to 4 times at distances of several hundred meters.
If it were me, I would play it safe and not take that apartment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314072</id>
	<title>Normally...</title>
	<author>DiSKiLLeR</author>
	<datestamp>1267447740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Normally I wouldn't worry at all.</p><p>But the fact that,<br>1) It's only 20 feet away,<br>2) It's in the same plane as you, and,<br>3) It's pointed AT you...</p><p>That worries me some more. Obviously you want to talk to someone who really knows this stuff, and can also measure the EM radiation in your future apt.</p><p>I also assume its a 'killer' apt because its in a great location and its CHEAP. And of course, its CHEAP because everyone is scared of the antenna pointing right at it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Normally I would n't worry at all.But the fact that,1 ) It 's only 20 feet away,2 ) It 's in the same plane as you , and,3 ) It 's pointed AT you...That worries me some more .
Obviously you want to talk to someone who really knows this stuff , and can also measure the EM radiation in your future apt.I also assume its a 'killer ' apt because its in a great location and its CHEAP .
And of course , its CHEAP because everyone is scared of the antenna pointing right at it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Normally I wouldn't worry at all.But the fact that,1) It's only 20 feet away,2) It's in the same plane as you, and,3) It's pointed AT you...That worries me some more.
Obviously you want to talk to someone who really knows this stuff, and can also measure the EM radiation in your future apt.I also assume its a 'killer' apt because its in a great location and its CHEAP.
And of course, its CHEAP because everyone is scared of the antenna pointing right at it...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314636</id>
	<title>Re:cell tower next to village</title>
	<author>Mattsson</author>
	<datestamp>1267452360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've experienced a similar story but about a Wimax-tower.<br>The exact day that a Wimax-service went active in the neighbourhood of my girlfriends parents, a couple with "electro-allergy" in the area started having headaches and feeling nauseous.<br>The funny thing was, the tower had already been active at full power for several months while they measured coverage and did trial-runs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've experienced a similar story but about a Wimax-tower.The exact day that a Wimax-service went active in the neighbourhood of my girlfriends parents , a couple with " electro-allergy " in the area started having headaches and feeling nauseous.The funny thing was , the tower had already been active at full power for several months while they measured coverage and did trial-runs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've experienced a similar story but about a Wimax-tower.The exact day that a Wimax-service went active in the neighbourhood of my girlfriends parents, a couple with "electro-allergy" in the area started having headaches and feeling nauseous.The funny thing was, the tower had already been active at full power for several months while they measured coverage and did trial-runs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313946</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314680</id>
	<title>The basic physics...</title>
	<author>Ancient\_Hacker</author>
	<datestamp>1267452600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The basic physics say you're more than okay.</p><p>The sunlight streaming in thru your windows is:</p><p>(1)  At least 100 times stronger, in incident watts.</p><p>(2)  Has a million times more punch per photon.</p><p>(3)  Couples to your body at least 10 times more.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... so as a rough estimate, the cell phone signals affect your body about a billion times less than standing in the sunlight.</p><p>(Actually, much less than that, as photons below infrared cannot, no way, dislodge any electrons, so there cannot be any chemical changes<br>in your body as a result. )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The basic physics say you 're more than okay.The sunlight streaming in thru your windows is : ( 1 ) At least 100 times stronger , in incident watts .
( 2 ) Has a million times more punch per photon .
( 3 ) Couples to your body at least 10 times more .
... so as a rough estimate , the cell phone signals affect your body about a billion times less than standing in the sunlight .
( Actually , much less than that , as photons below infrared can not , no way , dislodge any electrons , so there can not be any chemical changesin your body as a result .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The basic physics say you're more than okay.The sunlight streaming in thru your windows is:(1)  At least 100 times stronger, in incident watts.
(2)  Has a million times more punch per photon.
(3)  Couples to your body at least 10 times more.
... so as a rough estimate, the cell phone signals affect your body about a billion times less than standing in the sunlight.
(Actually, much less than that, as photons below infrared cannot, no way, dislodge any electrons, so there cannot be any chemical changesin your body as a result.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320778</id>
	<title>At least you will get good 3g coverage</title>
	<author>curado</author>
	<datestamp>1267476720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If somebody can't hear you its THEIR phone</htmltext>
<tokenext>If somebody ca n't hear you its THEIR phone</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If somebody can't hear you its THEIR phone</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31322542</id>
	<title>Re:Conductive films, cloths, or plastics...</title>
	<author>dotancohen</author>
	<datestamp>1267439940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows.</p></div><p>Will it run in Wine for us Ubuntu users?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows.Will it run in Wine for us Ubuntu users ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows.Will it run in Wine for us Ubuntu users?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313910</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314188</id>
	<title>Remember you have to sell it eventually</title>
	<author>mlush</author>
	<datestamp>1267448820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't buy,  If your having doubts,  anyone who you try and sell it to may have the same thoughts and avoid it.

</p><p>If this is reflected in the price all well and good,  but all you need is a really Juicy  Scare story when you
put it on the market to really sour the deal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't buy , If your having doubts , anyone who you try and sell it to may have the same thoughts and avoid it .
If this is reflected in the price all well and good , but all you need is a really Juicy Scare story when you put it on the market to really sour the deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't buy,  If your having doubts,  anyone who you try and sell it to may have the same thoughts and avoid it.
If this is reflected in the price all well and good,  but all you need is a really Juicy  Scare story when you
put it on the market to really sour the deal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315078</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>dziban303</author>
	<datestamp>1267455180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You forgot <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">thalidomide</a> [wikipedia.org]!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot thalidomide [ wikipedia.org ] !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot thalidomide [wikipedia.org]!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314138</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314712</id>
	<title>Pay someone to find out!</title>
	<author>Moe1975</author>
	<datestamp>1267452840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you can afford such an apartment and this is that important to you, what the heck are you doing searching the web for free info and asking Slashdot for free info?</p><p>I am 100\% certain that there are qualified and competent folks out there who can provide you with accurate information, for a fee.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can afford such an apartment and this is that important to you , what the heck are you doing searching the web for free info and asking Slashdot for free info ? I am 100 \ % certain that there are qualified and competent folks out there who can provide you with accurate information , for a fee .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can afford such an apartment and this is that important to you, what the heck are you doing searching the web for free info and asking Slashdot for free info?I am 100\% certain that there are qualified and competent folks out there who can provide you with accurate information, for a fee.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314906</id>
	<title>Ballpark guesstimate</title>
	<author>BrentH</author>
	<datestamp>1267453920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Assuming a 1kW transmitter, uniformly distributed over a one half sphere (because it makes no sense to send signals straight up), you 70kg standing an hour at 20ft from the transmitter, you'd heat up 0.06 degrees Celsius or almost a tenth of a Fahrenheit. Seems benign.<br> <br>

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=(1000W*((1m^2)/(2*Pi*(20ft)^2)))*3600s/(70kg*4186J/(kg*K))</htmltext>
<tokenext>Assuming a 1kW transmitter , uniformly distributed over a one half sphere ( because it makes no sense to send signals straight up ) , you 70kg standing an hour at 20ft from the transmitter , you 'd heat up 0.06 degrees Celsius or almost a tenth of a Fahrenheit .
Seems benign .
wolframalpha.com/input/ ? i = ( 1000W * ( ( 1m ^ 2 ) / ( 2 * Pi * ( 20ft ) ^ 2 ) ) ) * 3600s/ ( 70kg * 4186J/ ( kg * K ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assuming a 1kW transmitter, uniformly distributed over a one half sphere (because it makes no sense to send signals straight up), you 70kg standing an hour at 20ft from the transmitter, you'd heat up 0.06 degrees Celsius or almost a tenth of a Fahrenheit.
Seems benign.
wolframalpha.com/input/?i=(1000W*((1m^2)/(2*Pi*(20ft)^2)))*3600s/(70kg*4186J/(kg*K))</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316216</id>
	<title>Asymmetry?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267459380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If a cell phone tower can pick up a signal from a phone, shouldn't it only need to "reply" back with a signal around the same order of magnitude as the cell phone? If the tower and the phone are around the same order of magnitude (say within a factor of 10), wouldn't it be *more* dangerous to be talking on your phone? Granted, most people do not continuously chat on their cell phone. Wouldn't it be comparable to being in a busy location with people chatting on phones constantly?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If a cell phone tower can pick up a signal from a phone , should n't it only need to " reply " back with a signal around the same order of magnitude as the cell phone ?
If the tower and the phone are around the same order of magnitude ( say within a factor of 10 ) , would n't it be * more * dangerous to be talking on your phone ?
Granted , most people do not continuously chat on their cell phone .
Would n't it be comparable to being in a busy location with people chatting on phones constantly ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If a cell phone tower can pick up a signal from a phone, shouldn't it only need to "reply" back with a signal around the same order of magnitude as the cell phone?
If the tower and the phone are around the same order of magnitude (say within a factor of 10), wouldn't it be *more* dangerous to be talking on your phone?
Granted, most people do not continuously chat on their cell phone.
Wouldn't it be comparable to being in a busy location with people chatting on phones constantly?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314516</id>
	<title>strength falls off with cube of distance</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1267451640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so if it were five feet away (on your windowsill), i'd perhaps do a doubletake. but 20 feet away, and the power you are actually getting is much lower than first impression dictates</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so if it were five feet away ( on your windowsill ) , i 'd perhaps do a doubletake .
but 20 feet away , and the power you are actually getting is much lower than first impression dictates</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so if it were five feet away (on your windowsill), i'd perhaps do a doubletake.
but 20 feet away, and the power you are actually getting is much lower than first impression dictates</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316134</id>
	<title>whatever you do</title>
	<author>deuterium</author>
	<datestamp>1267459080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>just don't buy the bed with the huge parabolic headboard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>just do n't buy the bed with the huge parabolic headboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just don't buy the bed with the huge parabolic headboard.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314736</id>
	<title>Re:For what it's worth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267452960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why do any research if you're going to ignore the results<br>if they don't confirm your original bias?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why do any research if you 're going to ignore the resultsif they do n't confirm your original bias ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why do any research if you're going to ignore the resultsif they don't confirm your original bias?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317088</id>
	<title>Microwave</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267462620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the plus side if you unwrap your food from tin-foil, and leave it on the window facing the transmitters you'll have a nice warm meal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the plus side if you unwrap your food from tin-foil , and leave it on the window facing the transmitters you 'll have a nice warm meal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the plus side if you unwrap your food from tin-foil, and leave it on the window facing the transmitters you'll have a nice warm meal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320680</id>
	<title>Re:cell tower next to village</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267476420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>     This is scored "funny" but has happened several times just in the last year or two alone... "Oh the radiation, I've had headaches ever since that antenna went up last month!"  moan moan, bitch bitch.  The antenna installer then points out they have not even installed any equipment yet, the antenna wasn't going to be transmitting for several months.  Pwnage at it's finest.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; As for the OP, I agree with the numerous people that have commented that inside a city, the transmit power of cell sites is quite low, since the cover a matter of city blocks instead of miles.  I would like to add, I think the exposure from phones is a little exaggerated -- I saw people state a figure of +10dBm... that might be right for GSM, but I've seen CDMA phones in town do -10dBm to -20dBm, and right next to a site like you would be, the phone can drop below -40dBm.  I'll add here, what is a dBm?  0dBm is 1 milliwatt, +10 is 10mw, +20 is 100mw, etc.  -10 is 1/10th of a mw, -20 1/100th of a mw, etc.  The maximum is around +24 dBm for modern phones (250 mw), you'll only see this when you're almost out of service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is scored " funny " but has happened several times just in the last year or two alone... " Oh the radiation , I 've had headaches ever since that antenna went up last month !
" moan moan , bitch bitch .
The antenna installer then points out they have not even installed any equipment yet , the antenna was n't going to be transmitting for several months .
Pwnage at it 's finest .
          As for the OP , I agree with the numerous people that have commented that inside a city , the transmit power of cell sites is quite low , since the cover a matter of city blocks instead of miles .
I would like to add , I think the exposure from phones is a little exaggerated -- I saw people state a figure of + 10dBm... that might be right for GSM , but I 've seen CDMA phones in town do -10dBm to -20dBm , and right next to a site like you would be , the phone can drop below -40dBm .
I 'll add here , what is a dBm ?
0dBm is 1 milliwatt , + 10 is 10mw , + 20 is 100mw , etc .
-10 is 1/10th of a mw , -20 1/100th of a mw , etc .
The maximum is around + 24 dBm for modern phones ( 250 mw ) , you 'll only see this when you 're almost out of service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     This is scored "funny" but has happened several times just in the last year or two alone... "Oh the radiation, I've had headaches ever since that antenna went up last month!
"  moan moan, bitch bitch.
The antenna installer then points out they have not even installed any equipment yet, the antenna wasn't going to be transmitting for several months.
Pwnage at it's finest.
          As for the OP, I agree with the numerous people that have commented that inside a city, the transmit power of cell sites is quite low, since the cover a matter of city blocks instead of miles.
I would like to add, I think the exposure from phones is a little exaggerated -- I saw people state a figure of +10dBm... that might be right for GSM, but I've seen CDMA phones in town do -10dBm to -20dBm, and right next to a site like you would be, the phone can drop below -40dBm.
I'll add here, what is a dBm?
0dBm is 1 milliwatt, +10 is 10mw, +20 is 100mw, etc.
-10 is 1/10th of a mw, -20 1/100th of a mw, etc.
The maximum is around +24 dBm for modern phones (250 mw), you'll only see this when you're almost out of service.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313946</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317202</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267462980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, that's a lie.</p><p>Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Stalin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , that 's a lie.Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Stalin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, that's a lie.Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Stalin.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315652</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315652</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>eggoeater</author>
	<datestamp>1267457520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>If DDT were still in use, the Bald Eagle would be extinct, along with several other birds.
<br> <br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>If DDT were still in use , the Bald Eagle would be extinct , along with several other birds .
.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If DDT were still in use, the Bald Eagle would be extinct, along with several other birds.
...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314592</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319874</id>
	<title>AIEEE!!! GIANT ANTS!!!</title>
	<author>Hasai</author>
	<datestamp>1267473120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Puh-leeze. You get more radiation, of the <i>ionizing </i>type, from standing in the sun for fifteen minutes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Puh-leeze .
You get more radiation , of the ionizing type , from standing in the sun for fifteen minutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Puh-leeze.
You get more radiation, of the ionizing type, from standing in the sun for fifteen minutes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314020</id>
	<title>no one knows for sure</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267447200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>please keep<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. posted with your medical records (even after you've vacated)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>please keep / .
posted with your medical records ( even after you 've vacated )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>please keep /.
posted with your medical records (even after you've vacated)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314892</id>
	<title>Easy and cheap solution:</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1267453860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If there isn&rsquo;t a window on that side where the panels are, just get some wallpaper that filters them. You know: Tinfoil hat style. (Well, usually some kind of wireframe suffices, if it&rsquo;s e.g. 1/3 smaller than the waves.)</p><p>But if you want to know EXACTLY, you can always find out the energy (=frequency) of the radiation, and compare it against the bonding energy of e.g. proteins in your body (keyword Van-der-Waals bond) and others. But be aware that the quantum physics of this is often counterintuitive.<br>Then you don&rsquo;t have to rely on biased tests or people telling you their bias, but know it yourself.</p><p>From what I remember, microwaves can only create 0.1-0.2 degrees Celsius of heating in the body. So less than (the infrared in) sunlight, but deeper penetrating.</p><p>Or in simple terms: If you fear microwaves, you should have more fear of sunlight, as it&rsquo;s much stronger.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If there isn    t a window on that side where the panels are , just get some wallpaper that filters them .
You know : Tinfoil hat style .
( Well , usually some kind of wireframe suffices , if it    s e.g .
1/3 smaller than the waves .
) But if you want to know EXACTLY , you can always find out the energy ( = frequency ) of the radiation , and compare it against the bonding energy of e.g .
proteins in your body ( keyword Van-der-Waals bond ) and others .
But be aware that the quantum physics of this is often counterintuitive.Then you don    t have to rely on biased tests or people telling you their bias , but know it yourself.From what I remember , microwaves can only create 0.1-0.2 degrees Celsius of heating in the body .
So less than ( the infrared in ) sunlight , but deeper penetrating.Or in simple terms : If you fear microwaves , you should have more fear of sunlight , as it    s much stronger .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there isn’t a window on that side where the panels are, just get some wallpaper that filters them.
You know: Tinfoil hat style.
(Well, usually some kind of wireframe suffices, if it’s e.g.
1/3 smaller than the waves.
)But if you want to know EXACTLY, you can always find out the energy (=frequency) of the radiation, and compare it against the bonding energy of e.g.
proteins in your body (keyword Van-der-Waals bond) and others.
But be aware that the quantum physics of this is often counterintuitive.Then you don’t have to rely on biased tests or people telling you their bias, but know it yourself.From what I remember, microwaves can only create 0.1-0.2 degrees Celsius of heating in the body.
So less than (the infrared in) sunlight, but deeper penetrating.Or in simple terms: If you fear microwaves, you should have more fear of sunlight, as it’s much stronger.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315446</id>
	<title>Re:There are a lot of variables</title>
	<author>phobos512</author>
	<datestamp>1267456680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Man, I was starting to get worried.  I read through all these posts hoping that someone who works in our field (I work in the same field as leghorn here) would respond with actual information instead of just keyboard jockeying.  Thankfully, someone did.  Hooray!

I have to ask though, are you sure you didn't mean ANSI C95.1?  C95.2 is an RF safety signage standard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Man , I was starting to get worried .
I read through all these posts hoping that someone who works in our field ( I work in the same field as leghorn here ) would respond with actual information instead of just keyboard jockeying .
Thankfully , someone did .
Hooray ! I have to ask though , are you sure you did n't mean ANSI C95.1 ?
C95.2 is an RF safety signage standard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man, I was starting to get worried.
I read through all these posts hoping that someone who works in our field (I work in the same field as leghorn here) would respond with actual information instead of just keyboard jockeying.
Thankfully, someone did.
Hooray!

I have to ask though, are you sure you didn't mean ANSI C95.1?
C95.2 is an RF safety signage standard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313924</id>
	<title>Re:Buy it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267446000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is #3 Die?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is # 3 Die ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is #3 Die?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315182</id>
	<title>Re:I'd pass</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1267455720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If a risk to humans is ever substantiated, the antennas would be removed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If a risk to humans is ever substantiated , the antennas would be removed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If a risk to humans is ever substantiated, the antennas would be removed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316484</id>
	<title>Save your money, buy a modest apartment and save</title>
	<author>NevarMore</author>
	<datestamp>1267460340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"penthouse apartment in Manhattan".</p><p>Rent a nice regular apartment, have some cash left and go to Ikea, still have money left, go to dinner and the theatre, still have money left in the bank. Work to live life and see things and do things, don't work to acquire stuff, especially rented stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" penthouse apartment in Manhattan " .Rent a nice regular apartment , have some cash left and go to Ikea , still have money left , go to dinner and the theatre , still have money left in the bank .
Work to live life and see things and do things , do n't work to acquire stuff , especially rented stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"penthouse apartment in Manhattan".Rent a nice regular apartment, have some cash left and go to Ikea, still have money left, go to dinner and the theatre, still have money left in the bank.
Work to live life and see things and do things, don't work to acquire stuff, especially rented stuff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313910</id>
	<title>Conductive films, cloths, or plastics...</title>
	<author>TheDarAve</author>
	<datestamp>1267445880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows. Combine that with some metallic fabrics on the walls on that side. www.lessemf.com is one of many suppliers for those products. I've used a conductive plastic from those folks to make a shielded rack for some RF sensitive equipment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows .
Combine that with some metallic fabrics on the walls on that side .
www.lessemf.com is one of many suppliers for those products .
I 've used a conductive plastic from those folks to make a shielded rack for some RF sensitive equipment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows.
Combine that with some metallic fabrics on the walls on that side.
www.lessemf.com is one of many suppliers for those products.
I've used a conductive plastic from those folks to make a shielded rack for some RF sensitive equipment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319738</id>
	<title>RF burns</title>
	<author>dacarr</author>
	<datestamp>1267472580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As near as I can tell, your only hazard is if you come in direct physical contact with the transmitter antennas.  RF burns are no fun, so don't do that.<p>

Beyond that, while the frequency is in the range of what is used to, say, cook a hot dog in your microwave oven, keep in mind that a modern microwave oven will typically "transmit" over 1 KW of power.  A cell broadcast tower does roughly 2\% of this, as per was pointed out above.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As near as I can tell , your only hazard is if you come in direct physical contact with the transmitter antennas .
RF burns are no fun , so do n't do that .
Beyond that , while the frequency is in the range of what is used to , say , cook a hot dog in your microwave oven , keep in mind that a modern microwave oven will typically " transmit " over 1 KW of power .
A cell broadcast tower does roughly 2 \ % of this , as per was pointed out above .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As near as I can tell, your only hazard is if you come in direct physical contact with the transmitter antennas.
RF burns are no fun, so don't do that.
Beyond that, while the frequency is in the range of what is used to, say, cook a hot dog in your microwave oven, keep in mind that a modern microwave oven will typically "transmit" over 1 KW of power.
A cell broadcast tower does roughly 2\% of this, as per was pointed out above.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314756</id>
	<title>Re:Comfort</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1267453080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Regardless of its effects on your health, EM radiation can heat up deep under your skin. I wouldn't buy that apartment, as I'd then be anticipating continuous uncomfortable heat.</p></div><p>The continuous uncomfortable heat comes from being on the top floor in the summer and having to air condition the asphalt roof.  Your electric bill will resemble a McMansion rather than an apartment.  I have experience with that scenario.  The second to the top floor is actually the best location.</p><p>The FCC has an ultra wordy explanation of cell transmitter power</p><p><a href="http://www.fcc.gov/oet/rfsafety/cellpcs.html" title="fcc.gov">http://www.fcc.gov/oet/rfsafety/cellpcs.html</a> [fcc.gov]</p><p>The wikipedia cuts to the chase and calls it about 100 watts total for an urban site.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell\_site" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell\_site</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Based on r^2 scaling laws, assuming you don't literally wrap your body around the antennas to keep warm while you sleep, I don't think you'll get more than a tiny fraction of a watt, much less than a cellphone in a pocket, probably.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Regardless of its effects on your health , EM radiation can heat up deep under your skin .
I would n't buy that apartment , as I 'd then be anticipating continuous uncomfortable heat.The continuous uncomfortable heat comes from being on the top floor in the summer and having to air condition the asphalt roof .
Your electric bill will resemble a McMansion rather than an apartment .
I have experience with that scenario .
The second to the top floor is actually the best location.The FCC has an ultra wordy explanation of cell transmitter powerhttp : //www.fcc.gov/oet/rfsafety/cellpcs.html [ fcc.gov ] The wikipedia cuts to the chase and calls it about 100 watts total for an urban site.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell \ _site [ wikipedia.org ] Based on r ^ 2 scaling laws , assuming you do n't literally wrap your body around the antennas to keep warm while you sleep , I do n't think you 'll get more than a tiny fraction of a watt , much less than a cellphone in a pocket , probably .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regardless of its effects on your health, EM radiation can heat up deep under your skin.
I wouldn't buy that apartment, as I'd then be anticipating continuous uncomfortable heat.The continuous uncomfortable heat comes from being on the top floor in the summer and having to air condition the asphalt roof.
Your electric bill will resemble a McMansion rather than an apartment.
I have experience with that scenario.
The second to the top floor is actually the best location.The FCC has an ultra wordy explanation of cell transmitter powerhttp://www.fcc.gov/oet/rfsafety/cellpcs.html [fcc.gov]The wikipedia cuts to the chase and calls it about 100 watts total for an urban site.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell\_site [wikipedia.org]Based on r^2 scaling laws, assuming you don't literally wrap your body around the antennas to keep warm while you sleep, I don't think you'll get more than a tiny fraction of a watt, much less than a cellphone in a pocket, probably.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317728</id>
	<title>if you are truly paranoid...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267464960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you truly want this apartment, and are extremely paranoid, simply line the walls with a mesh that will act as a Faraday cage, and ensure that the cage is connected to the ground of your electrical outlet.  you will then have a nice Electromagnetic Free apartment.  The only issue is ensuring that the the mesh is small enough to ensure that it captures the energy...the higher frequency the smaller the mesh needs to be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you truly want this apartment , and are extremely paranoid , simply line the walls with a mesh that will act as a Faraday cage , and ensure that the cage is connected to the ground of your electrical outlet .
you will then have a nice Electromagnetic Free apartment .
The only issue is ensuring that the the mesh is small enough to ensure that it captures the energy...the higher frequency the smaller the mesh needs to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you truly want this apartment, and are extremely paranoid, simply line the walls with a mesh that will act as a Faraday cage, and ensure that the cage is connected to the ground of your electrical outlet.
you will then have a nice Electromagnetic Free apartment.
The only issue is ensuring that the the mesh is small enough to ensure that it captures the energy...the higher frequency the smaller the mesh needs to be.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317326</id>
	<title>yeah but how many bars do you have?</title>
	<author>stinky wizzleteats</author>
	<datestamp>1267463460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Two words:  cellular internet</htmltext>
<tokenext>Two words : cellular internet</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two words:  cellular internet</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31358806</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>msi</author>
	<datestamp>1267723020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Power line Leukaemia is a difficult subject but I have no citations so I will keep away from this argument.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#Restrictions\_on\_usage" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">DDT is no longer used wildly if at all due to its effects on the food chain and humans</a> [wikipedia.org].  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos#Modern\_regulation" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Asbestos is now only used in very specialised circumstances and is removed from old buildings as soon as practical</a> [wikipedia.org].  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead\_paint#Regulation" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Lead paint is banned from general sale in most countries now.</a> [wikipedia.org]  <a href="http://www.osha.gov/doc/index.html" title="osha.gov" rel="nofollow">Portland cement is only dangerous when wet and it is hardly the most dangerous thing on most building sites.</a> [osha.gov]
<p>Its is a shame your arguments where so poor because I agree with your conclusion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Power line Leukaemia is a difficult subject but I have no citations so I will keep away from this argument .
DDT is no longer used wildly if at all due to its effects on the food chain and humans [ wikipedia.org ] .
Asbestos is now only used in very specialised circumstances and is removed from old buildings as soon as practical [ wikipedia.org ] .
Lead paint is banned from general sale in most countries now .
[ wikipedia.org ] Portland cement is only dangerous when wet and it is hardly the most dangerous thing on most building sites .
[ osha.gov ] Its is a shame your arguments where so poor because I agree with your conclusion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Power line Leukaemia is a difficult subject but I have no citations so I will keep away from this argument.
DDT is no longer used wildly if at all due to its effects on the food chain and humans [wikipedia.org].
Asbestos is now only used in very specialised circumstances and is removed from old buildings as soon as practical [wikipedia.org].
Lead paint is banned from general sale in most countries now.
[wikipedia.org]  Portland cement is only dangerous when wet and it is hardly the most dangerous thing on most building sites.
[osha.gov]
Its is a shame your arguments where so poor because I agree with your conclusion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31325380</id>
	<title>Tinfoil ain't going to do it.</title>
	<author>dlingman</author>
	<datestamp>1267455240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Trust me - we've done tests.  You want steel wool.  Preferably an inch or so thick.  You can test this out quite easily, by wrapping your phone in tinfoil, and then calling it.  when it rings, you know that's not enough.

Steel wool, then tinfoil on the outside, will do just fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Trust me - we 've done tests .
You want steel wool .
Preferably an inch or so thick .
You can test this out quite easily , by wrapping your phone in tinfoil , and then calling it .
when it rings , you know that 's not enough .
Steel wool , then tinfoil on the outside , will do just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trust me - we've done tests.
You want steel wool.
Preferably an inch or so thick.
You can test this out quite easily, by wrapping your phone in tinfoil, and then calling it.
when it rings, you know that's not enough.
Steel wool, then tinfoil on the outside, will do just fine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316178</id>
	<title>cant you just be happy!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267459260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cant you just be happy with the EXCELLENT cell phone coverage you'll have day in and day out! If I was your landlord, I would bill it as a selling point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cant you just be happy with the EXCELLENT cell phone coverage you 'll have day in and day out !
If I was your landlord , I would bill it as a selling point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cant you just be happy with the EXCELLENT cell phone coverage you'll have day in and day out!
If I was your landlord, I would bill it as a selling point.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314270</id>
	<title>An Italian court has linked cell radiation to canc</title>
	<author>jernejk</author>
	<datestamp>1267449660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>An Italian court has linked cell radiation to cancer, for the first time in history.
I don't have the link in English, but it will probably be discussed online soon.

So, no, I wouldn't buy the apartment, unless I wanted to sue for damages later in life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An Italian court has linked cell radiation to cancer , for the first time in history .
I do n't have the link in English , but it will probably be discussed online soon .
So , no , I would n't buy the apartment , unless I wanted to sue for damages later in life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An Italian court has linked cell radiation to cancer, for the first time in history.
I don't have the link in English, but it will probably be discussed online soon.
So, no, I wouldn't buy the apartment, unless I wanted to sue for damages later in life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319838</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267472940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have the same problem. I simply wear my stormtrooper uniform when I'm at home. It's kinda hard to go to the bathroom, but , the peace of mind is worth it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the same problem .
I simply wear my stormtrooper uniform when I 'm at home .
It 's kinda hard to go to the bathroom , but , the peace of mind is worth it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the same problem.
I simply wear my stormtrooper uniform when I'm at home.
It's kinda hard to go to the bathroom, but , the peace of mind is worth it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314556</id>
	<title>Femtocells</title>
	<author>Nowhere.Men</author>
	<datestamp>1267451940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go find an apartment that have a poor cell phone coverage.<br>Then to improve the situation, you buy a femtocell or your neighbor buy one and install next to the wall closest to your bed.</p><p>Legislation define maximum exposure allowed.<br>The distance from an antena is not the main factor; you also have to factor the power of the antenna.<br>In a city with lots of people to connect, you will have lots of low power antenna. While in the suburb, you will have more powerful antenna. The exposition of a nice house surrounded by trees from an antena a block away may be higher than in your apartment.</p><p>The fact that you can see the antena just show that you don't have a nice view. Next apartment you visit, the view may be better, the antena may be fixed on your building around the corner of your windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go find an apartment that have a poor cell phone coverage.Then to improve the situation , you buy a femtocell or your neighbor buy one and install next to the wall closest to your bed.Legislation define maximum exposure allowed.The distance from an antena is not the main factor ; you also have to factor the power of the antenna.In a city with lots of people to connect , you will have lots of low power antenna .
While in the suburb , you will have more powerful antenna .
The exposition of a nice house surrounded by trees from an antena a block away may be higher than in your apartment.The fact that you can see the antena just show that you do n't have a nice view .
Next apartment you visit , the view may be better , the antena may be fixed on your building around the corner of your windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go find an apartment that have a poor cell phone coverage.Then to improve the situation, you buy a femtocell or your neighbor buy one and install next to the wall closest to your bed.Legislation define maximum exposure allowed.The distance from an antena is not the main factor; you also have to factor the power of the antenna.In a city with lots of people to connect, you will have lots of low power antenna.
While in the suburb, you will have more powerful antenna.
The exposition of a nice house surrounded by trees from an antena a block away may be higher than in your apartment.The fact that you can see the antena just show that you don't have a nice view.
Next apartment you visit, the view may be better, the antena may be fixed on your building around the corner of your windows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315270</id>
	<title>wrong forum</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267456080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I am considering buying a penthouse<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... a pair of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... exposure<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... persistent exposure<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... this pair of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... head<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... a tight<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>It sounds like you should be asking Larry Flint instead.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am considering buying a penthouse ... a pair of ... exposure ... persistent exposure ... this pair of ... head ... a tight ...It sounds like you should be asking Larry Flint instead .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am considering buying a penthouse ... a pair of ... exposure ... persistent exposure ... this pair of ... head ... a tight ...It sounds like you should be asking Larry Flint instead.
;-)
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314542</id>
	<title>That's true, not funny.</title>
	<author>Auroch</author>
	<datestamp>1267451760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Okay, it's funny too. But it's also true, I just can't find the reference.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay , it 's funny too .
But it 's also true , I just ca n't find the reference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay, it's funny too.
But it's also true, I just can't find the reference.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316750</id>
	<title>Old Slashdot Story -</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267461360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't believe that none of you mentioned this old story on on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. - paint that contains metal strands to block EM signals.  (look for "aluminum paint" in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. search field, or use this URL<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...  http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/04/12/29/2128253/Wireless-Security-By-The-Gallon) .</p><p>AC</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe that none of you mentioned this old story on on / .
- paint that contains metal strands to block EM signals .
( look for " aluminum paint " in / .
search field , or use this URL ... http : //hardware.slashdot.org/story/04/12/29/2128253/Wireless-Security-By-The-Gallon ) .AC</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe that none of you mentioned this old story on on /.
- paint that contains metal strands to block EM signals.
(look for "aluminum paint" in /.
search field, or use this URL ...  http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/04/12/29/2128253/Wireless-Security-By-The-Gallon) .AC</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31324072</id>
	<title>Re:You can afford</title>
	<author>story645</author>
	<datestamp>1267446540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, the towers could have been built before his apartment went up. New construction and all that, and there's tons of it, even in places like Harlem, so he could actually afford a penthouse in a few select neighborhoods. Though he also should have covered in class; hell my E&amp;M professor spends quite a few lectures ranting about this topic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , the towers could have been built before his apartment went up .
New construction and all that , and there 's tons of it , even in places like Harlem , so he could actually afford a penthouse in a few select neighborhoods .
Though he also should have covered in class ; hell my E&amp;M professor spends quite a few lectures ranting about this topic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, the towers could have been built before his apartment went up.
New construction and all that, and there's tons of it, even in places like Harlem, so he could actually afford a penthouse in a few select neighborhoods.
Though he also should have covered in class; hell my E&amp;M professor spends quite a few lectures ranting about this topic.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31328304</id>
	<title>Re:cell tower next to village</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267534080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a Dilbert strip brewing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a Dilbert strip brewing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a Dilbert strip brewing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314008</id>
	<title>It may be fine, but do you want to risk it</title>
	<author>jgreco</author>
	<datestamp>1267446960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's been a lot of propaganda on both sides of this issue, and a lot of reasons to be skeptical.

Since the jury's still out on the dangers of cell tower radiation, the big questions here would seem to be:

1) Do you feel like being a guinea pig?

2) If you do something like making your apartment into a Faraday cage, are you opening up a different can of worms, such as, can the cell carrier take action against you?  Probably not, but for a purchase as major as this, you'd probably want to check with a lawyer...

3) How much time and expense do you put into something like this?</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's been a lot of propaganda on both sides of this issue , and a lot of reasons to be skeptical .
Since the jury 's still out on the dangers of cell tower radiation , the big questions here would seem to be : 1 ) Do you feel like being a guinea pig ?
2 ) If you do something like making your apartment into a Faraday cage , are you opening up a different can of worms , such as , can the cell carrier take action against you ?
Probably not , but for a purchase as major as this , you 'd probably want to check with a lawyer.. . 3 ) How much time and expense do you put into something like this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's been a lot of propaganda on both sides of this issue, and a lot of reasons to be skeptical.
Since the jury's still out on the dangers of cell tower radiation, the big questions here would seem to be:

1) Do you feel like being a guinea pig?
2) If you do something like making your apartment into a Faraday cage, are you opening up a different can of worms, such as, can the cell carrier take action against you?
Probably not, but for a purchase as major as this, you'd probably want to check with a lawyer...

3) How much time and expense do you put into something like this?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314686</id>
	<title>Re:Normally...</title>
	<author>Americium</author>
	<datestamp>1267452720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We had three FM broadcast transmitters operating on this antenna with about 250 kilowatts of radiated power, and the measured levels in the building across the street were not over the limits for public access. This was about 150 feet horizontally from the antenna.</p></div><p>So the power per square meter is 250kw/(4*pi*r^2) = 8 watts / square meter. I rounded off and used 50 meters for r. Drop the factor of 4 if you want, since it's pointing at you -&gt; 32 watts.</p><p>Now cell phone towers are about 500-1000 less powerful than these radio transmitters, as they transmit 50 miles or so.</p><p>So we are talking more around 10 mW / m^2..... before it hits the window.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>But the fact that,
1) It's only 20 feet away,
2) It's in the same plane as you, and,
3) It's pointed AT you...</p></div><p>I heard there's this big glowing spot in the sky, right above my house, and it's hitting my roof with 1000 watts/m^2, my god that more than 1000 times more RF than the freaking RF tower.</p><p>Then benefits of not being on the ground floor, and therefore staying away from Radon, far outweighs the cell tower. </p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We had three FM broadcast transmitters operating on this antenna with about 250 kilowatts of radiated power , and the measured levels in the building across the street were not over the limits for public access .
This was about 150 feet horizontally from the antenna.So the power per square meter is 250kw/ ( 4 * pi * r ^ 2 ) = 8 watts / square meter .
I rounded off and used 50 meters for r. Drop the factor of 4 if you want , since it 's pointing at you - &gt; 32 watts.Now cell phone towers are about 500-1000 less powerful than these radio transmitters , as they transmit 50 miles or so.So we are talking more around 10 mW / m ^ 2..... before it hits the window.But the fact that , 1 ) It 's only 20 feet away , 2 ) It 's in the same plane as you , and , 3 ) It 's pointed AT you...I heard there 's this big glowing spot in the sky , right above my house , and it 's hitting my roof with 1000 watts/m ^ 2 , my god that more than 1000 times more RF than the freaking RF tower.Then benefits of not being on the ground floor , and therefore staying away from Radon , far outweighs the cell tower .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We had three FM broadcast transmitters operating on this antenna with about 250 kilowatts of radiated power, and the measured levels in the building across the street were not over the limits for public access.
This was about 150 feet horizontally from the antenna.So the power per square meter is 250kw/(4*pi*r^2) = 8 watts / square meter.
I rounded off and used 50 meters for r. Drop the factor of 4 if you want, since it's pointing at you -&gt; 32 watts.Now cell phone towers are about 500-1000 less powerful than these radio transmitters, as they transmit 50 miles or so.So we are talking more around 10 mW / m^2..... before it hits the window.But the fact that,
1) It's only 20 feet away,
2) It's in the same plane as you, and,
3) It's pointed AT you...I heard there's this big glowing spot in the sky, right above my house, and it's hitting my roof with 1000 watts/m^2, my god that more than 1000 times more RF than the freaking RF tower.Then benefits of not being on the ground floor, and therefore staying away from Radon, far outweighs the cell tower. 
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315796</id>
	<title>Re:Buy it</title>
	<author>stakovahflow</author>
	<datestamp>1267458060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It may be difficult to win said lawsuit, ya know, with missing parts of your cerebral cortex, etc, due to microwave radiation...</p><p>Good luck!</p><p>--Stak</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It may be difficult to win said lawsuit , ya know , with missing parts of your cerebral cortex , etc , due to microwave radiation...Good luck ! --Stak</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It may be difficult to win said lawsuit, ya know, with missing parts of your cerebral cortex, etc, due to microwave radiation...Good luck!--Stak</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316852</id>
	<title>Yep, a killing one</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267461780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being RF engineer, I can tell you to stay away from it.<br>There's always a part of RF beam pointing directly backwards of the antenna, ranging from 10 to 50 feets depending on power of a basestation.<br>The bad part is that you cannot effectively shield yourself because it is unknown frequency. Yes, you can guess, but you can never be sure, because of, well, you know, 3G, LTE and whatever-the-next-day-brings.<br>And to someone above posted about tinfoil hat: - no, tinfoil hat is not saving you. It's even act as an amplifier for some frequencies (google do know).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being RF engineer , I can tell you to stay away from it.There 's always a part of RF beam pointing directly backwards of the antenna , ranging from 10 to 50 feets depending on power of a basestation.The bad part is that you can not effectively shield yourself because it is unknown frequency .
Yes , you can guess , but you can never be sure , because of , well , you know , 3G , LTE and whatever-the-next-day-brings.And to someone above posted about tinfoil hat : - no , tinfoil hat is not saving you .
It 's even act as an amplifier for some frequencies ( google do know ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being RF engineer, I can tell you to stay away from it.There's always a part of RF beam pointing directly backwards of the antenna, ranging from 10 to 50 feets depending on power of a basestation.The bad part is that you cannot effectively shield yourself because it is unknown frequency.
Yes, you can guess, but you can never be sure, because of, well, you know, 3G, LTE and whatever-the-next-day-brings.And to someone above posted about tinfoil hat: - no, tinfoil hat is not saving you.
It's even act as an amplifier for some frequencies (google do know).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31321962</id>
	<title>Find another apartment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267437720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Find another place that won't give you cancer. Problem solved.</p><p>Seriously though, the Faraday cage is probably the best solution if you still want to live there. I agree with the first person to post though, as it will always be in the back of your mind of whether or not you are safe in your apartment. On a side note, there is a cell phone tower about a half of a mile away from where I live, and the phone company planted trees around it. The trees were all dead or dying after 6 months. They keep replanting them, but they keep dying. The corn fields 40 feet away from the tower are fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Find another place that wo n't give you cancer .
Problem solved.Seriously though , the Faraday cage is probably the best solution if you still want to live there .
I agree with the first person to post though , as it will always be in the back of your mind of whether or not you are safe in your apartment .
On a side note , there is a cell phone tower about a half of a mile away from where I live , and the phone company planted trees around it .
The trees were all dead or dying after 6 months .
They keep replanting them , but they keep dying .
The corn fields 40 feet away from the tower are fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Find another place that won't give you cancer.
Problem solved.Seriously though, the Faraday cage is probably the best solution if you still want to live there.
I agree with the first person to post though, as it will always be in the back of your mind of whether or not you are safe in your apartment.
On a side note, there is a cell phone tower about a half of a mile away from where I live, and the phone company planted trees around it.
The trees were all dead or dying after 6 months.
They keep replanting them, but they keep dying.
The corn fields 40 feet away from the tower are fine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314718</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>kumarnarain</author>
	<datestamp>1267452840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>yes I remember Thalomide also</htmltext>
<tokenext>yes I remember Thalomide also</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yes I remember Thalomide also</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320836</id>
	<title>Re:I heard...</title>
	<author>mellon</author>
	<datestamp>1267476900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I had read somewhere that...?"   Dude!   Never say stuff like that.   Where did you read it, in the New York Post?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I had read somewhere that... ?
" Dude !
Never say stuff like that .
Where did you read it , in the New York Post ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I had read somewhere that...?
"   Dude!
Never say stuff like that.
Where did you read it, in the New York Post?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320960</id>
	<title>Don't Buy It.</title>
	<author>Joe Mucchiello</author>
	<datestamp>1267434120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't matter if you will or won't get irradiated to death living there. Forget about that. Imagine trying to sell the place and the potential BUYERS worrying about being irradiated to death. That perception will lower the value of the property and you won't get as good a deal when you sell. It has a lower cost than similarly sized condos right? That's why you are looking at it and now you are worried. Same thing will happen when you try to sell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't matter if you will or wo n't get irradiated to death living there .
Forget about that .
Imagine trying to sell the place and the potential BUYERS worrying about being irradiated to death .
That perception will lower the value of the property and you wo n't get as good a deal when you sell .
It has a lower cost than similarly sized condos right ?
That 's why you are looking at it and now you are worried .
Same thing will happen when you try to sell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't matter if you will or won't get irradiated to death living there.
Forget about that.
Imagine trying to sell the place and the potential BUYERS worrying about being irradiated to death.
That perception will lower the value of the property and you won't get as good a deal when you sell.
It has a lower cost than similarly sized condos right?
That's why you are looking at it and now you are worried.
Same thing will happen when you try to sell.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314704</id>
	<title>Re:Police radio tower gave me headaches</title>
	<author>Ancient\_Hacker</author>
	<datestamp>1267452840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did you ever consider that maybe the headaches could have been caused by the noxious fumes from all the police cars?</p><p>Police radios are like 100 watts, intermittent.</p><p>I lived for 15 years in the shadow of a 50,000-watt radio station tower.   On 24/7.  No headaches.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you ever consider that maybe the headaches could have been caused by the noxious fumes from all the police cars ? Police radios are like 100 watts , intermittent.I lived for 15 years in the shadow of a 50,000-watt radio station tower .
On 24/7 .
No headaches .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you ever consider that maybe the headaches could have been caused by the noxious fumes from all the police cars?Police radios are like 100 watts, intermittent.I lived for 15 years in the shadow of a 50,000-watt radio station tower.
On 24/7.
No headaches.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318800</id>
	<title>Re:You can afford</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267468920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wait a minute, you can afford a penthouse apt in manhattan</p></div><p>...twenty feet from a cell tower.</p><p>I imagine it's probably a bit below the average price.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait a minute , you can afford a penthouse apt in manhattan...twenty feet from a cell tower.I imagine it 's probably a bit below the average price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait a minute, you can afford a penthouse apt in manhattan...twenty feet from a cell tower.I imagine it's probably a bit below the average price.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31324590</id>
	<title>No worries</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267449300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've lived in close proximity to an atenna for years andfakgjlkfdakj ag  sh j df hghfgh sf kfgl.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've lived in close proximity to an atenna for years andfakgjlkfdakj ag sh j df hghfgh sf kfgl .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've lived in close proximity to an atenna for years andfakgjlkfdakj ag  sh j df hghfgh sf kfgl.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314728</id>
	<title>Re:depends what you mean by "facing"</title>
	<author>arielCo</author>
	<datestamp>1267452900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dipole antennas in this case are installed vertically. Think of it this way: the doughnut is meant to cover you, the customer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dipole antennas in this case are installed vertically .
Think of it this way : the doughnut is meant to cover you , the customer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dipole antennas in this case are installed vertically.
Think of it this way: the doughnut is meant to cover you, the customer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31328916</id>
	<title>Univ Michigan Radiation Lab Study</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267540440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The University of Michigan has done many studies on Microwave Radiation and found no health effects. They even put high power microwave horns next to peoples heads to no effect.</p><p>Microwaves are just light whose energy is too low to see with the human eye. Light passes through windows just fine without damaging the window.</p><p>Your body is transparent to microwaves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The University of Michigan has done many studies on Microwave Radiation and found no health effects .
They even put high power microwave horns next to peoples heads to no effect.Microwaves are just light whose energy is too low to see with the human eye .
Light passes through windows just fine without damaging the window.Your body is transparent to microwaves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The University of Michigan has done many studies on Microwave Radiation and found no health effects.
They even put high power microwave horns next to peoples heads to no effect.Microwaves are just light whose energy is too low to see with the human eye.
Light passes through windows just fine without damaging the window.Your body is transparent to microwaves.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316648</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267461000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT</p><p>Wikipedia suggests your view is more of a myth promoted by anti-regulatory free-market ideologists. Kind of like the "AGW doesn't exist" crowd.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDTWikipedia suggests your view is more of a myth promoted by anti-regulatory free-market ideologists .
Kind of like the " AGW does n't exist " crowd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDTWikipedia suggests your view is more of a myth promoted by anti-regulatory free-market ideologists.
Kind of like the "AGW doesn't exist" crowd.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31321914</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267437480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't believe that DDT is harmful look at the cockroaches exposed to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't believe that DDT is harmful look at the cockroaches exposed to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't believe that DDT is harmful look at the cockroaches exposed to it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314016</id>
	<title>Re:On the upside, no worries about poor reception</title>
	<author>dukw\_butter</author>
	<datestamp>1267447080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The intensity of the radiation varies inversely with the square of the distance, not the cube of the distance.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The intensity of the radiation varies inversely with the square of the distance , not the cube of the distance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The intensity of the radiation varies inversely with the square of the distance, not the cube of the distance.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317754</id>
	<title>Check it out for yourself</title>
	<author>kenbo0422</author>
	<datestamp>1267465080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Forget the inverse of the square and everyone else who's trying to find the most technical analysis to your dilemma.  Seems you've all missed the point.

Get an inexpensive electromagnetic field detector (you can even make one) and scan the apartment for electromagnetic radiation.  If it is consistently above 3 to 5 milligauss then you may want to reconsider.  If it is higher, then you ask yourself whether or not you 'feel' strange in the apartment (due to the electromagnetic fields possibly being an influence on your brain).  The only way to know is to test it for yourself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Forget the inverse of the square and everyone else who 's trying to find the most technical analysis to your dilemma .
Seems you 've all missed the point .
Get an inexpensive electromagnetic field detector ( you can even make one ) and scan the apartment for electromagnetic radiation .
If it is consistently above 3 to 5 milligauss then you may want to reconsider .
If it is higher , then you ask yourself whether or not you 'feel ' strange in the apartment ( due to the electromagnetic fields possibly being an influence on your brain ) .
The only way to know is to test it for yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forget the inverse of the square and everyone else who's trying to find the most technical analysis to your dilemma.
Seems you've all missed the point.
Get an inexpensive electromagnetic field detector (you can even make one) and scan the apartment for electromagnetic radiation.
If it is consistently above 3 to 5 milligauss then you may want to reconsider.
If it is higher, then you ask yourself whether or not you 'feel' strange in the apartment (due to the electromagnetic fields possibly being an influence on your brain).
The only way to know is to test it for yourself.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315164</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>HungryHobo</author>
	<datestamp>1267455600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The DDT one really was a political thing rather than a health thing.<br>malaria is a very nasty disease.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The DDT one really was a political thing rather than a health thing.malaria is a very nasty disease .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The DDT one really was a political thing rather than a health thing.malaria is a very nasty disease.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316552</id>
	<title>Simple: don't but it ...</title>
	<author>tgd</author>
	<datestamp>1267460700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The answer you're going to get on here is going to be different between people thinking about the question you asked, and the question you should've asked.</p><p>The merits of the theory that the radiation is harmful may be debated, but there's a better reason not to buy it that there really is no debate on:</p><p>When you need to sell it, the next buyer will be asking the same question.</p><p>It doesn't matter if its safe or not, its going to make it hard to sell it the next time, unless you are enough experienced in the market to know how much its going to drop the value on a resale and ensure you buy at that much below market now.</p><p>Its like buying a house near powerlines. It may be perfectly safe, but selling the house later is going to be a pain in the ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The answer you 're going to get on here is going to be different between people thinking about the question you asked , and the question you should 've asked.The merits of the theory that the radiation is harmful may be debated , but there 's a better reason not to buy it that there really is no debate on : When you need to sell it , the next buyer will be asking the same question.It does n't matter if its safe or not , its going to make it hard to sell it the next time , unless you are enough experienced in the market to know how much its going to drop the value on a resale and ensure you buy at that much below market now.Its like buying a house near powerlines .
It may be perfectly safe , but selling the house later is going to be a pain in the ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The answer you're going to get on here is going to be different between people thinking about the question you asked, and the question you should've asked.The merits of the theory that the radiation is harmful may be debated, but there's a better reason not to buy it that there really is no debate on:When you need to sell it, the next buyer will be asking the same question.It doesn't matter if its safe or not, its going to make it hard to sell it the next time, unless you are enough experienced in the market to know how much its going to drop the value on a resale and ensure you buy at that much below market now.Its like buying a house near powerlines.
It may be perfectly safe, but selling the house later is going to be a pain in the ass.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313872</id>
	<title>I'd pass</title>
	<author>mariushm</author>
	<datestamp>1267445400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't risk living there.</p><p>As far as I know (and I'm no expert, just good at googling) , the radiation levels from antennas are relatively safe about 3-5 meters away from them but depending on the type of antenna their beam can kind of focused in one direction so that 3-5 meters estimation could mean a measurement ouside the beam direction and if the apartment is inside the beam the radiation could be above safe levels. For example, I've heard that in my country, if you live on the last floor of a building and an antenna is above, the antenna must be on a pole at least 2-2.5 meters high so that distance between the apartments below and the emitter is around 3 meters.</p><p>Cellphone antennas would not be uni-directional so there shouldn't be any focused beam or whatever it's called but who knows what other antennas will be installed in the future on the same pole.</p><p>So from a radiation point of view you may be safe, but you never know how sensitive you are or how sensitive your family / children etc will be.</p><p>Second, while you may not care so much, the property will be harder to sell in the future because of that antenna.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't risk living there.As far as I know ( and I 'm no expert , just good at googling ) , the radiation levels from antennas are relatively safe about 3-5 meters away from them but depending on the type of antenna their beam can kind of focused in one direction so that 3-5 meters estimation could mean a measurement ouside the beam direction and if the apartment is inside the beam the radiation could be above safe levels .
For example , I 've heard that in my country , if you live on the last floor of a building and an antenna is above , the antenna must be on a pole at least 2-2.5 meters high so that distance between the apartments below and the emitter is around 3 meters.Cellphone antennas would not be uni-directional so there should n't be any focused beam or whatever it 's called but who knows what other antennas will be installed in the future on the same pole.So from a radiation point of view you may be safe , but you never know how sensitive you are or how sensitive your family / children etc will be.Second , while you may not care so much , the property will be harder to sell in the future because of that antenna .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't risk living there.As far as I know (and I'm no expert, just good at googling) , the radiation levels from antennas are relatively safe about 3-5 meters away from them but depending on the type of antenna their beam can kind of focused in one direction so that 3-5 meters estimation could mean a measurement ouside the beam direction and if the apartment is inside the beam the radiation could be above safe levels.
For example, I've heard that in my country, if you live on the last floor of a building and an antenna is above, the antenna must be on a pole at least 2-2.5 meters high so that distance between the apartments below and the emitter is around 3 meters.Cellphone antennas would not be uni-directional so there shouldn't be any focused beam or whatever it's called but who knows what other antennas will be installed in the future on the same pole.So from a radiation point of view you may be safe, but you never know how sensitive you are or how sensitive your family / children etc will be.Second, while you may not care so much, the property will be harder to sell in the future because of that antenna.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314646</id>
	<title>Re:Easy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267452420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mmmmm... new sex fetish besides leather and rubber.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mmmmm... new sex fetish besides leather and rubber .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mmmmm... new sex fetish besides leather and rubber.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319260</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267470840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If DDT were still in use, the Bald Eagle would be extinct, along with several other birds.</p></div><p>If it was still in use by farmers, who use many thousands of times more than would be used to end the mosquito infestations that spread malaria, feeding it into the ground water via their fields rather than lightly applying it to walls of homes.</p><p>But malaria is only a problem for people in other countries, and us Americans know that people in other countries aren't REAL people.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If DDT were still in use , the Bald Eagle would be extinct , along with several other birds.If it was still in use by farmers , who use many thousands of times more than would be used to end the mosquito infestations that spread malaria , feeding it into the ground water via their fields rather than lightly applying it to walls of homes.But malaria is only a problem for people in other countries , and us Americans know that people in other countries are n't REAL people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If DDT were still in use, the Bald Eagle would be extinct, along with several other birds.If it was still in use by farmers, who use many thousands of times more than would be used to end the mosquito infestations that spread malaria, feeding it into the ground water via their fields rather than lightly applying it to walls of homes.But malaria is only a problem for people in other countries, and us Americans know that people in other countries aren't REAL people.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315652</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314174</id>
	<title>Time to start smoking</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1267448700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The antenna is going to get you anyway, so you may as well light up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The antenna is going to get you anyway , so you may as well light up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The antenna is going to get you anyway, so you may as well light up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318584</id>
	<title>It's good to know</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1267468020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that even the rich can be ignorant. and by good to know, I mean really sad.</p><p>If you can buy a penthouse in manhatten, you should consider education as a good way to spend money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that even the rich can be ignorant .
and by good to know , I mean really sad.If you can buy a penthouse in manhatten , you should consider education as a good way to spend money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that even the rich can be ignorant.
and by good to know, I mean really sad.If you can buy a penthouse in manhatten, you should consider education as a good way to spend money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314036</id>
	<title>live webcam please!</title>
	<author>lkcl</author>
	<datestamp>1267447380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hey, can we ask you a favour?  given the likelihood of you being able to post on slashdot should you die of radiation-related disease, could you please put a webcam in your apartment, so that if you die everyone can know that they shouldn't live 20 ft away from celltowers that transmit up to 2 watts peak to anything up to 2,000 users, simultaneously?  consider your potential death by proximity to around ooo 4kW microwave radiation to be a public service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hey , can we ask you a favour ?
given the likelihood of you being able to post on slashdot should you die of radiation-related disease , could you please put a webcam in your apartment , so that if you die everyone can know that they should n't live 20 ft away from celltowers that transmit up to 2 watts peak to anything up to 2,000 users , simultaneously ?
consider your potential death by proximity to around ooo 4kW microwave radiation to be a public service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hey, can we ask you a favour?
given the likelihood of you being able to post on slashdot should you die of radiation-related disease, could you please put a webcam in your apartment, so that if you die everyone can know that they shouldn't live 20 ft away from celltowers that transmit up to 2 watts peak to anything up to 2,000 users, simultaneously?
consider your potential death by proximity to around ooo 4kW microwave radiation to be a public service.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314580</id>
	<title>Re:Easy</title>
	<author>frenchbedroom</author>
	<datestamp>1267452000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shiny. Plate. Armor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shiny .
Plate. Armor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shiny.
Plate. Armor.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314114</id>
	<title>Comfort</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267448100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Regardless of its effects on your health, EM radiation can heat up deep under your skin. I wouldn't buy that apartment, as I'd then be anticipating continuous uncomfortable heat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Regardless of its effects on your health , EM radiation can heat up deep under your skin .
I would n't buy that apartment , as I 'd then be anticipating continuous uncomfortable heat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Regardless of its effects on your health, EM radiation can heat up deep under your skin.
I wouldn't buy that apartment, as I'd then be anticipating continuous uncomfortable heat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316836</id>
	<title>You should just rent it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267461720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who cares? You are going to die soon anyway... enjoy the ride buddy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares ?
You are going to die soon anyway... enjoy the ride buddy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares?
You are going to die soon anyway... enjoy the ride buddy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316078</id>
	<title>Re:The facts about urban wireless towers</title>
	<author>T.E.D.</author>
	<datestamp>1267458900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you're really worried about it, buy one of those $100 "Electrosmog" meters and measure the signal strength yourself at various places.</p></div><p>This is the best single piece of advice I've seen in this entire discussion. Too bad you buried it at the end of your post.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're really worried about it , buy one of those $ 100 " Electrosmog " meters and measure the signal strength yourself at various places.This is the best single piece of advice I 've seen in this entire discussion .
Too bad you buried it at the end of your post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're really worried about it, buy one of those $100 "Electrosmog" meters and measure the signal strength yourself at various places.This is the best single piece of advice I've seen in this entire discussion.
Too bad you buried it at the end of your post.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313848</id>
	<title>On the upside, no worries about poor reception</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267445100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, you'll actually get a phone signal! Brilliant!</p><p>Personally I would be a little worried, and certainly wouldn't sign a contract to buy the place until you had the research. The signal power will reduce by the cube of distance from the masts, so 20ft might be okay, whereas 10ft could be a real issue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , you 'll actually get a phone signal !
Brilliant ! Personally I would be a little worried , and certainly would n't sign a contract to buy the place until you had the research .
The signal power will reduce by the cube of distance from the masts , so 20ft might be okay , whereas 10ft could be a real issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, you'll actually get a phone signal!
Brilliant!Personally I would be a little worried, and certainly wouldn't sign a contract to buy the place until you had the research.
The signal power will reduce by the cube of distance from the masts, so 20ft might be okay, whereas 10ft could be a real issue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315580</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267457280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yeah.. you will die if you live there. I can't mention who I work for, or what I know... but there is a DAMN good reason these kinds of towers are located where they are... when you take into account that you are preventing thousands of people from getting sick and maybe just making 1 or 2 people ill.. the monetary gains out weigh the potential problems for the few lost souls who move into apartments directly in the radius of the signals being sent.</p><p>Live else where.</p><p>If you block the signal, and they can prove it's you.. they \_could\_ sue.</p><p>(Ps. you wont' die from it right away.. it would be more of a gradual cancer type sickness that creeps over you 15-20 years from now.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)  )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah.. you will die if you live there .
I ca n't mention who I work for , or what I know... but there is a DAMN good reason these kinds of towers are located where they are... when you take into account that you are preventing thousands of people from getting sick and maybe just making 1 or 2 people ill.. the monetary gains out weigh the potential problems for the few lost souls who move into apartments directly in the radius of the signals being sent.Live else where.If you block the signal , and they can prove it 's you.. they \ _could \ _ sue. ( Ps .
you wont ' die from it right away.. it would be more of a gradual cancer type sickness that creeps over you 15-20 years from now .
; ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah.. you will die if you live there.
I can't mention who I work for, or what I know... but there is a DAMN good reason these kinds of towers are located where they are... when you take into account that you are preventing thousands of people from getting sick and maybe just making 1 or 2 people ill.. the monetary gains out weigh the potential problems for the few lost souls who move into apartments directly in the radius of the signals being sent.Live else where.If you block the signal, and they can prove it's you.. they \_could\_ sue.(Ps.
you wont' die from it right away.. it would be more of a gradual cancer type sickness that creeps over you 15-20 years from now.
;)  )</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31327900</id>
	<title>You just need anti-radiation underwear:</title>
	<author>hellop2</author>
	<datestamp>1267528620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/279205814-Anti-radiation-knitted-men-s-underwear-wholesalers.html" title="aliexpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/279205814-Anti-radiation-knitted-men-s-underwear-wholesalers.html</a> [aliexpress.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/279205814-Anti-radiation-knitted-men-s-underwear-wholesalers.html [ aliexpress.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/279205814-Anti-radiation-knitted-men-s-underwear-wholesalers.html [aliexpress.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314276</id>
	<title>Fight back!</title>
	<author>Baron\_Yam</author>
	<datestamp>1267449720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ever see that perforated metal sheet in the window of your microwave oven?  It stops the microwaves from escaping, because their wavelength is larger than the hole diameter.</p><p>So, buy the apartment, and put up a similar metal sheeting against the walls and windows facing the microwave tower.</p><p>If you do it right, it'll actually affect the antennas to the point it will set off some alarms on the systems monitoring the antennas.</p><p>Hopefully you don't subscribe to a cellular service utilizing that tower, or don't expect service to continue in your new apartment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever see that perforated metal sheet in the window of your microwave oven ?
It stops the microwaves from escaping , because their wavelength is larger than the hole diameter.So , buy the apartment , and put up a similar metal sheeting against the walls and windows facing the microwave tower.If you do it right , it 'll actually affect the antennas to the point it will set off some alarms on the systems monitoring the antennas.Hopefully you do n't subscribe to a cellular service utilizing that tower , or do n't expect service to continue in your new apartment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever see that perforated metal sheet in the window of your microwave oven?
It stops the microwaves from escaping, because their wavelength is larger than the hole diameter.So, buy the apartment, and put up a similar metal sheeting against the walls and windows facing the microwave tower.If you do it right, it'll actually affect the antennas to the point it will set off some alarms on the systems monitoring the antennas.Hopefully you don't subscribe to a cellular service utilizing that tower, or don't expect service to continue in your new apartment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314100</id>
	<title>You make an awful lot of money for an engineer</title>
	<author>RonVNX</author>
	<datestamp>1267447980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you can afford a penthouse apartment in Manhattan, you're making an awful lot of money for a computer engineer.  Where can the rest of us get jobs like yours?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can afford a penthouse apartment in Manhattan , you 're making an awful lot of money for a computer engineer .
Where can the rest of us get jobs like yours ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can afford a penthouse apartment in Manhattan, you're making an awful lot of money for a computer engineer.
Where can the rest of us get jobs like yours?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314902</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Random5</author>
	<datestamp>1267453860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Queue study showing that living in a clean room makes your body's immune system go crazy and kill you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Queue study showing that living in a clean room makes your body 's immune system go crazy and kill you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Queue study showing that living in a clean room makes your body's immune system go crazy and kill you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318660</id>
	<title>Re:Insert small coil</title>
	<author>Vexar</author>
	<datestamp>1267468320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, that one is the best!  I think the longer the coil (diameter), the more twists, the more power drained, right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , that one is the best !
I think the longer the coil ( diameter ) , the more twists , the more power drained , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, that one is the best!
I think the longer the coil (diameter), the more twists, the more power drained, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315098</id>
	<title>Radiation, yes indeed!</title>
	<author>ahodgkinson</author>
	<datestamp>1267455240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's definitely safe. This problem was put to bed back in the 80s:</p><p>"Radiation, yes indeed! You hear the most outrageous lies about it.  Half-baked, goggle-boxed do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you.  Pernicious nonsense!  Everybody could stand 100 chest x-rays a year. They ought to have 'em too."<br>- J. Frank Parnell in "Repo Man"</p><p>There, now that that's solved...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's definitely safe .
This problem was put to bed back in the 80s : " Radiation , yes indeed !
You hear the most outrageous lies about it .
Half-baked , goggle-boxed do-gooders telling everybody it 's bad for you .
Pernicious nonsense !
Everybody could stand 100 chest x-rays a year .
They ought to have 'em too .
" - J. Frank Parnell in " Repo Man " There , now that that 's solved.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's definitely safe.
This problem was put to bed back in the 80s:"Radiation, yes indeed!
You hear the most outrageous lies about it.
Half-baked, goggle-boxed do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you.
Pernicious nonsense!
Everybody could stand 100 chest x-rays a year.
They ought to have 'em too.
"- J. Frank Parnell in "Repo Man"There, now that that's solved...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314340</id>
	<title>measure it</title>
	<author>StripedCow</author>
	<datestamp>1267450200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>first make sure you can measure the level of radiation to an acceptable accuracy.</p><p>then, line one or more of your walls with conducting material to shield the radiation.</p><p>use measurements to determine if there are still hot spots in the most important areas of your home, and add shielding until they are all gone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>first make sure you can measure the level of radiation to an acceptable accuracy.then , line one or more of your walls with conducting material to shield the radiation.use measurements to determine if there are still hot spots in the most important areas of your home , and add shielding until they are all gone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first make sure you can measure the level of radiation to an acceptable accuracy.then, line one or more of your walls with conducting material to shield the radiation.use measurements to determine if there are still hot spots in the most important areas of your home, and add shielding until they are all gone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313992</id>
	<title>For what it's worth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267446780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In 2004 the Dutch laboratory TNO investigated the influence of UMTS and GSM radiation on two groups of people, one with health complaints they ascribed to GSM base stations and one without. The tests were double blind.

For both groups a small, but statistically significant relationship was found between exposure to "UMTS-like" radiation and the sense of wellbeing reported by the subjects.

This result was a disappointment to the Dutch government, that had commissioned this investigation. They had subsequent research done by a Swiss institution which did not confirm the findings.

Anayway, the city of Hoofddorp, where I live, forbids the placement of cellular base station antennas on top of residential buildings. I support this policy; better safe than sorry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In 2004 the Dutch laboratory TNO investigated the influence of UMTS and GSM radiation on two groups of people , one with health complaints they ascribed to GSM base stations and one without .
The tests were double blind .
For both groups a small , but statistically significant relationship was found between exposure to " UMTS-like " radiation and the sense of wellbeing reported by the subjects .
This result was a disappointment to the Dutch government , that had commissioned this investigation .
They had subsequent research done by a Swiss institution which did not confirm the findings .
Anayway , the city of Hoofddorp , where I live , forbids the placement of cellular base station antennas on top of residential buildings .
I support this policy ; better safe than sorry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In 2004 the Dutch laboratory TNO investigated the influence of UMTS and GSM radiation on two groups of people, one with health complaints they ascribed to GSM base stations and one without.
The tests were double blind.
For both groups a small, but statistically significant relationship was found between exposure to "UMTS-like" radiation and the sense of wellbeing reported by the subjects.
This result was a disappointment to the Dutch government, that had commissioned this investigation.
They had subsequent research done by a Swiss institution which did not confirm the findings.
Anayway, the city of Hoofddorp, where I live, forbids the placement of cellular base station antennas on top of residential buildings.
I support this policy; better safe than sorry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319722</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Huzzah!</author>
	<datestamp>1267472460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although the government (U.S.) strictly prohibits asbestos in most schools, it is also the biggest user of asbestos, and OSHA limits your exposure to it in the workplace - to 16 MILLION fibers inhaled during an 8-hour shift!
<p>
As you imply, the government is not an institution to rely on to protect your health in all cases.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although the government ( U.S. ) strictly prohibits asbestos in most schools , it is also the biggest user of asbestos , and OSHA limits your exposure to it in the workplace - to 16 MILLION fibers inhaled during an 8-hour shift !
As you imply , the government is not an institution to rely on to protect your health in all cases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although the government (U.S.) strictly prohibits asbestos in most schools, it is also the biggest user of asbestos, and OSHA limits your exposure to it in the workplace - to 16 MILLION fibers inhaled during an 8-hour shift!
As you imply, the government is not an institution to rely on to protect your health in all cases.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314082</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316232</id>
	<title>Flexible lead sheets</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267459440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could put flexible lead sheets under the sheetrock in your apartment, it will deaden the sound and block the radiation because of it density.  I have done this is the past as a Union Carpenter at several businesses and homes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could put flexible lead sheets under the sheetrock in your apartment , it will deaden the sound and block the radiation because of it density .
I have done this is the past as a Union Carpenter at several businesses and homes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could put flexible lead sheets under the sheetrock in your apartment, it will deaden the sound and block the radiation because of it density.
I have done this is the past as a Union Carpenter at several businesses and homes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314456</id>
	<title>You can afford</title>
	<author>kenh</author>
	<datestamp>1267451040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait a minute, you can afford a penthouse apt in manhattan, but you are unsure about the safety of living next to a cellular antenna array that (to use your words) is pointed right at your apartment, so you turn to Slashdot? I don't believe it.</p><p>I also don't believe that any company would install a cellular antenna array and point it at a structure - it would seriously impact the coverage area of the antenna, and they could probably just as easily installed the antenna on a taller building and avoid interference...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait a minute , you can afford a penthouse apt in manhattan , but you are unsure about the safety of living next to a cellular antenna array that ( to use your words ) is pointed right at your apartment , so you turn to Slashdot ?
I do n't believe it.I also do n't believe that any company would install a cellular antenna array and point it at a structure - it would seriously impact the coverage area of the antenna , and they could probably just as easily installed the antenna on a taller building and avoid interference.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait a minute, you can afford a penthouse apt in manhattan, but you are unsure about the safety of living next to a cellular antenna array that (to use your words) is pointed right at your apartment, so you turn to Slashdot?
I don't believe it.I also don't believe that any company would install a cellular antenna array and point it at a structure - it would seriously impact the coverage area of the antenna, and they could probably just as easily installed the antenna on a taller building and avoid interference...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313856</id>
	<title>depends what you mean by "facing"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267445160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it's a simple dipole antenna and its long axis is aimed at you, there should be minimal exposure. The power emission profile looks kind of like a doughnut with the long part of the antenna at the middle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a simple dipole antenna and its long axis is aimed at you , there should be minimal exposure .
The power emission profile looks kind of like a doughnut with the long part of the antenna at the middle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a simple dipole antenna and its long axis is aimed at you, there should be minimal exposure.
The power emission profile looks kind of like a doughnut with the long part of the antenna at the middle.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317370</id>
	<title>The missed question</title>
	<author>Bobfrankly1</author>
	<datestamp>1267463640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why is this apartment on the market in the first place? Did someone drop dead in the apartment?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is this apartment on the market in the first place ?
Did someone drop dead in the apartment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is this apartment on the market in the first place?
Did someone drop dead in the apartment?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314546</id>
	<title>Just wear a tinfoil hat..</title>
	<author>jcr</author>
	<datestamp>1267451880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..and you'll be fine.</p><p>-jcr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..and you 'll be fine.-jcr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..and you'll be fine.-jcr</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31321706</id>
	<title>Re:Buyer's Market</title>
	<author>egcagrac0</author>
	<datestamp>1267436760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's plenty of reason to wear Tyvek jumpsuits.  They're comfortable, stylish, and company provided.  It's like a trifecta!</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's plenty of reason to wear Tyvek jumpsuits .
They 're comfortable , stylish , and company provided .
It 's like a trifecta !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's plenty of reason to wear Tyvek jumpsuits.
They're comfortable, stylish, and company provided.
It's like a trifecta!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314900</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316256</id>
	<title>"I read somewhere"</title>
	<author>SlappyBastard</author>
	<datestamp>1267459500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read somewhere that Barrack Obama is a Kenyan.  Not very science-y, but I read it somewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read somewhere that Barrack Obama is a Kenyan .
Not very science-y , but I read it somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read somewhere that Barrack Obama is a Kenyan.
Not very science-y, but I read it somewhere.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314094</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316480</id>
	<title>So you call this new place</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267460340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a dead spot?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a dead spot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a dead spot?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317394</id>
	<title>Exercise caution.</title>
	<author>slashdotjunker</author>
	<datestamp>1267463700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The technical answer is interesting but you should really consider the future consequences of purchasing a home with an obvious red flag. If you buy this home, you will eventually want to sell the home. Many potential buyers will most likely be turned off by the antenna. Not all buyers are proactive enough to educate themselves (or ask Slashdot to educate them) about RF emissions. Regardless of whether or not the home is safe, I would advise against purchasing it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The technical answer is interesting but you should really consider the future consequences of purchasing a home with an obvious red flag .
If you buy this home , you will eventually want to sell the home .
Many potential buyers will most likely be turned off by the antenna .
Not all buyers are proactive enough to educate themselves ( or ask Slashdot to educate them ) about RF emissions .
Regardless of whether or not the home is safe , I would advise against purchasing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The technical answer is interesting but you should really consider the future consequences of purchasing a home with an obvious red flag.
If you buy this home, you will eventually want to sell the home.
Many potential buyers will most likely be turned off by the antenna.
Not all buyers are proactive enough to educate themselves (or ask Slashdot to educate them) about RF emissions.
Regardless of whether or not the home is safe, I would advise against purchasing it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314040</id>
	<title>buying leverage</title>
	<author>geoskd</author>
	<datestamp>1267447500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When / if you make an offer, make sure that it includes an allowance for modification of the structure to make it "radiation safe". Take the allowance and pocket it, thereby saving you a bunch of money on the upfront side.<br>
Be prepared for the next purchaser to use this same pretext when you sell, and price accordingly.
<br>
<br>
Even better: once you own the property, create a B.S. LLC and use it to certify the property as "radiation safe" Then provide the certificate, the "radiation data", and the receipt for the radiation exposure study, when you go to sell the property. Then you get the best price coming and going...
<br>
<br>
-=Geoskd</htmltext>
<tokenext>When / if you make an offer , make sure that it includes an allowance for modification of the structure to make it " radiation safe " .
Take the allowance and pocket it , thereby saving you a bunch of money on the upfront side .
Be prepared for the next purchaser to use this same pretext when you sell , and price accordingly .
Even better : once you own the property , create a B.S .
LLC and use it to certify the property as " radiation safe " Then provide the certificate , the " radiation data " , and the receipt for the radiation exposure study , when you go to sell the property .
Then you get the best price coming and going.. . - = Geoskd</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When / if you make an offer, make sure that it includes an allowance for modification of the structure to make it "radiation safe".
Take the allowance and pocket it, thereby saving you a bunch of money on the upfront side.
Be prepared for the next purchaser to use this same pretext when you sell, and price accordingly.
Even better: once you own the property, create a B.S.
LLC and use it to certify the property as "radiation safe" Then provide the certificate, the "radiation data", and the receipt for the radiation exposure study, when you go to sell the property.
Then you get the best price coming and going...


-=Geoskd</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314122</id>
	<title>Do you know this expression?</title>
	<author>BerntB</author>
	<datestamp>1267448160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
You are probably right, because it would need a conspiracy to hide research results. But... remember the tobacco companies' bought research.
</p><p>
A while ago, I learned a new expression which I've never seen in my native Swedish media -- which do say something about at least Sweden's political trustworthiness:
</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>Regulatory capture.</i></p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are probably right , because it would need a conspiracy to hide research results .
But... remember the tobacco companies ' bought research .
A while ago , I learned a new expression which I 've never seen in my native Swedish media -- which do say something about at least Sweden 's political trustworthiness : Regulatory capture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
You are probably right, because it would need a conspiracy to hide research results.
But... remember the tobacco companies' bought research.
A while ago, I learned a new expression which I've never seen in my native Swedish media -- which do say something about at least Sweden's political trustworthiness:
 Regulatory capture.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313846</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319108</id>
	<title>Proposition</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267470180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a nice antenna that only runs 50KW AM (for a bunch of amateur cowboy music, I mean global warm.., I mean Rush Lim.., er Girl Scouts) can we locate the antenna and power requirements over to your apartment?  I was thinking you should just turn your apartment INTO a Cell Tower, what'dya think? We can provide you $10,000 a year for the space. Your money could be delivered anonymously in gold if you like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a nice antenna that only runs 50KW AM ( for a bunch of amateur cowboy music , I mean global warm.. , I mean Rush Lim.. , er Girl Scouts ) can we locate the antenna and power requirements over to your apartment ?
I was thinking you should just turn your apartment INTO a Cell Tower , what'dya think ?
We can provide you $ 10,000 a year for the space .
Your money could be delivered anonymously in gold if you like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a nice antenna that only runs 50KW AM (for a bunch of amateur cowboy music, I mean global warm.., I mean Rush Lim.., er Girl Scouts) can we locate the antenna and power requirements over to your apartment?
I was thinking you should just turn your apartment INTO a Cell Tower, what'dya think?
We can provide you $10,000 a year for the space.
Your money could be delivered anonymously in gold if you like.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313866</id>
	<title>These guys found the prefect solution...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267445280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...for your problem.<br>Right here: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1pv16G-liw" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1pv16G-liw</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...for your problem.Right here : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = R1pv16G-liw [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...for your problem.Right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1pv16G-liw [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316682</id>
	<title>The tag says it all...</title>
	<author>Frankenshteen</author>
	<datestamp>1267461180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't forget the tinfoil hat. That's what they're for after all...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget the tinfoil hat .
That 's what they 're for after all.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget the tinfoil hat.
That's what they're for after all...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314050</id>
	<title>Measure the Radiation from the Tower</title>
	<author>dukw\_butter</author>
	<datestamp>1267447620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One person said "The power of the antenna in this case is restricted by the larger number of cell phone users in the city."  And, it is true that the radiation intensity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source.  I personally think that you should attempt to measure the radiation from the tower.  Then, you could decide if you needed to turn the apartment into a Farraday cage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One person said " The power of the antenna in this case is restricted by the larger number of cell phone users in the city .
" And , it is true that the radiation intensity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source .
I personally think that you should attempt to measure the radiation from the tower .
Then , you could decide if you needed to turn the apartment into a Farraday cage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One person said "The power of the antenna in this case is restricted by the larger number of cell phone users in the city.
"  And, it is true that the radiation intensity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source.
I personally think that you should attempt to measure the radiation from the tower.
Then, you could decide if you needed to turn the apartment into a Farraday cage.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313930</id>
	<title>It's not microwave</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267446060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am not sure if you were meaning microwave in the strict sense, as a microwave ant pointed at your building would be dumb.  Microwave transmissions are very directional.  GSM or CDMA are going to be much lower, and mostly benign.  You probably have attended a church or worked in a building that has them.  You're around them all the time.  Also, cellular systems are cellular.  Meaning, their transmit power is relatively small so that the frequency can be reused across the same town for obvious freq management reasons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not sure if you were meaning microwave in the strict sense , as a microwave ant pointed at your building would be dumb .
Microwave transmissions are very directional .
GSM or CDMA are going to be much lower , and mostly benign .
You probably have attended a church or worked in a building that has them .
You 're around them all the time .
Also , cellular systems are cellular .
Meaning , their transmit power is relatively small so that the frequency can be reused across the same town for obvious freq management reasons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not sure if you were meaning microwave in the strict sense, as a microwave ant pointed at your building would be dumb.
Microwave transmissions are very directional.
GSM or CDMA are going to be much lower, and mostly benign.
You probably have attended a church or worked in a building that has them.
You're around them all the time.
Also, cellular systems are cellular.
Meaning, their transmit power is relatively small so that the frequency can be reused across the same town for obvious freq management reasons.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317470</id>
	<title>Use the radiation to generate electricity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267464000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how much power you could absorb with your own antenna pointed back at it. Free electricity!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how much power you could absorb with your own antenna pointed back at it .
Free electricity !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how much power you could absorb with your own antenna pointed back at it.
Free electricity!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319502</id>
	<title>Near field or far field?</title>
	<author>TwineLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1267471740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You may want to calculate whether you are going to be in the "near field" of this antenna, the range where magnetic field dominates and decreases as 1/R^3. The radiation pattern of the electrical field is what transmits the signal.  However, if you live inside the near field, currents will be induced in you, and you will become warmer.

Also, inside the near field, devices like microphones and speakers pick up a lot of interference.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You may want to calculate whether you are going to be in the " near field " of this antenna , the range where magnetic field dominates and decreases as 1/R ^ 3 .
The radiation pattern of the electrical field is what transmits the signal .
However , if you live inside the near field , currents will be induced in you , and you will become warmer .
Also , inside the near field , devices like microphones and speakers pick up a lot of interference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may want to calculate whether you are going to be in the "near field" of this antenna, the range where magnetic field dominates and decreases as 1/R^3.
The radiation pattern of the electrical field is what transmits the signal.
However, if you live inside the near field, currents will be induced in you, and you will become warmer.
Also, inside the near field, devices like microphones and speakers pick up a lot of interference.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31325106</id>
	<title>Dangers of EMR</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267453140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are 2 articles I would like you to read before you consider purchasing. Particularly if you are considering having children</p><p>http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/confidential/red-symons-son-speaks-out-about-his-battle-with-cancer/story-e6frf96o-1225827604821</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y01LKmD0QXI</p><p>This was caused by a power stations Electro Magnetic Radiation.</p><p>RMIT Uni Transmission Towers<br>http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1637123.htm</p><p>ABC Transmission Towers<br>http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/22/2826613.htm</p><p>I would be buying some measuring tools for EMR<br>http://www.grainmills.com.au/category28\_1.htm</p><p>Can it be shielded Yes. Will you Mobile phone work once the shielding is in place ? Sure if you attach it to an External Antenna<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) or switch to WiFi IP Telephony.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are 2 articles I would like you to read before you consider purchasing .
Particularly if you are considering having childrenhttp : //www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/confidential/red-symons-son-speaks-out-about-his-battle-with-cancer/story-e6frf96o-1225827604821http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = Y01LKmD0QXIThis was caused by a power stations Electro Magnetic Radiation.RMIT Uni Transmission Towershttp : //www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1637123.htmABC Transmission Towershttp : //www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/22/2826613.htmI would be buying some measuring tools for EMRhttp : //www.grainmills.com.au/category28 \ _1.htmCan it be shielded Yes .
Will you Mobile phone work once the shielding is in place ?
Sure if you attach it to an External Antenna : ) or switch to WiFi IP Telephony .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are 2 articles I would like you to read before you consider purchasing.
Particularly if you are considering having childrenhttp://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/confidential/red-symons-son-speaks-out-about-his-battle-with-cancer/story-e6frf96o-1225827604821http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y01LKmD0QXIThis was caused by a power stations Electro Magnetic Radiation.RMIT Uni Transmission Towershttp://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1637123.htmABC Transmission Towershttp://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/22/2826613.htmI would be buying some measuring tools for EMRhttp://www.grainmills.com.au/category28\_1.htmCan it be shielded Yes.
Will you Mobile phone work once the shielding is in place ?
Sure if you attach it to an External Antenna :) or switch to WiFi IP Telephony.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314638</id>
	<title>Mess with them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267452420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So set up a couple of reflectors in the windows, and send some signal back to the antennas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So set up a couple of reflectors in the windows , and send some signal back to the antennas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So set up a couple of reflectors in the windows, and send some signal back to the antennas.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314864</id>
	<title>heh</title>
	<author>C\_Kode</author>
	<datestamp>1267453740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love how he had to note he was "getting the penthouse".</p><p>I don't think you need to worry about the antennas as much as the butler cause the butler is always the one that did it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love how he had to note he was " getting the penthouse " .I do n't think you need to worry about the antennas as much as the butler cause the butler is always the one that did it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love how he had to note he was "getting the penthouse".I don't think you need to worry about the antennas as much as the butler cause the butler is always the one that did it!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315248</id>
	<title>Re:Buy it</title>
	<author>marz007</author>
	<datestamp>1267456020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This may be the only way you'll get any kind of AT&amp;T Reception for your nifty cool iPhone in Manhattan...assuming that it's an AT&amp;T Tower pointing at you, of course.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This may be the only way you 'll get any kind of AT&amp;T Reception for your nifty cool iPhone in Manhattan...assuming that it 's an AT&amp;T Tower pointing at you , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This may be the only way you'll get any kind of AT&amp;T Reception for your nifty cool iPhone in Manhattan...assuming that it's an AT&amp;T Tower pointing at you, of course.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31325606</id>
	<title>Orgonite!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267457460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Place organite at the base of the tower.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>Do a Youtube search for "orgonite". No, I don't believe in this stuff, but it's shocking what some people will believe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Place organite at the base of the tower .
: - ) Do a Youtube search for " orgonite " .
No , I do n't believe in this stuff , but it 's shocking what some people will believe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Place organite at the base of the tower.
:-)Do a Youtube search for "orgonite".
No, I don't believe in this stuff, but it's shocking what some people will believe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31338196</id>
	<title>Measure the intensity, if you can</title>
	<author>niftymitch</author>
	<datestamp>1267534800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For goodness sake measure the intensity if you can.
<p>
You need the information before you move in
and more importantly you need the information should any change be made to the transmitter.
</p><p>
While a tinfoil hat is silly and not stylish it might make sense to sandwich inexpensive copper screen and steel wool between 1/4" plywood, decorate it and make a headboard for the bed with it.  No need to tell anyone either...
</p><p>
I do not believe that there is a hazard but I do not sleep on railroad tracks either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For goodness sake measure the intensity if you can .
You need the information before you move in and more importantly you need the information should any change be made to the transmitter .
While a tinfoil hat is silly and not stylish it might make sense to sandwich inexpensive copper screen and steel wool between 1/4 " plywood , decorate it and make a headboard for the bed with it .
No need to tell anyone either.. . I do not believe that there is a hazard but I do not sleep on railroad tracks either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For goodness sake measure the intensity if you can.
You need the information before you move in
and more importantly you need the information should any change be made to the transmitter.
While a tinfoil hat is silly and not stylish it might make sense to sandwich inexpensive copper screen and steel wool between 1/4" plywood, decorate it and make a headboard for the bed with it.
No need to tell anyone either...

I do not believe that there is a hazard but I do not sleep on railroad tracks either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316792</id>
	<title>Invisible Threat?</title>
	<author>GRW</author>
	<datestamp>1267461540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You could read <a href="http://theinvisiblethreat.com/index.php" title="theinvisiblethreat.com">this book</a> [theinvisiblethreat.com] and be even more afraid (or maybe this author is just paranoid.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could read this book [ theinvisiblethreat.com ] and be even more afraid ( or maybe this author is just paranoid .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could read this book [theinvisiblethreat.com] and be even more afraid (or maybe this author is just paranoid.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31322872</id>
	<title>Re:I'd pass</title>
	<author>KZigurs</author>
	<datestamp>1267441200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you know nothing.<br>(sorry, too drunk to go further in detail. Let's just say that your laptop (you are sitting within two feet from) is probably emitting more actual RFI exposure than a cell tower at 20 feet. Logarithmic scale is a beautiful thing.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:))</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you know nothing .
( sorry , too drunk to go further in detail .
Let 's just say that your laptop ( you are sitting within two feet from ) is probably emitting more actual RFI exposure than a cell tower at 20 feet .
Logarithmic scale is a beautiful thing .
: ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you know nothing.
(sorry, too drunk to go further in detail.
Let's just say that your laptop (you are sitting within two feet from) is probably emitting more actual RFI exposure than a cell tower at 20 feet.
Logarithmic scale is a beautiful thing.
:))</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317650</id>
	<title>Re:cell tower next to village</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1267464720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some crazies in Clearview, Washington (illegally) bulldozed a new AM radio tower, thinking it was giving them brain cancer or something. An AM radio tower. AM.</p><p>If AM radio caused brain cancer, you'd think we would have figured that out sometime in the last 80 years we've been using it. Crazy people. Maybe they thought NPR was going to broadcast hypnotic messages into their brains so they'd vote Democrat.</p><p><a href="http://www.kirotv.com/news/20723839/detail.html" title="kirotv.com">http://www.kirotv.com/news/20723839/detail.html</a> [kirotv.com]</p><p>Oh wait it was sports radio. Maybe they have an intense hatred of... high school football? Hell, I dunno.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some crazies in Clearview , Washington ( illegally ) bulldozed a new AM radio tower , thinking it was giving them brain cancer or something .
An AM radio tower .
AM.If AM radio caused brain cancer , you 'd think we would have figured that out sometime in the last 80 years we 've been using it .
Crazy people .
Maybe they thought NPR was going to broadcast hypnotic messages into their brains so they 'd vote Democrat.http : //www.kirotv.com/news/20723839/detail.html [ kirotv.com ] Oh wait it was sports radio .
Maybe they have an intense hatred of... high school football ?
Hell , I dunno .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some crazies in Clearview, Washington (illegally) bulldozed a new AM radio tower, thinking it was giving them brain cancer or something.
An AM radio tower.
AM.If AM radio caused brain cancer, you'd think we would have figured that out sometime in the last 80 years we've been using it.
Crazy people.
Maybe they thought NPR was going to broadcast hypnotic messages into their brains so they'd vote Democrat.http://www.kirotv.com/news/20723839/detail.html [kirotv.com]Oh wait it was sports radio.
Maybe they have an intense hatred of... high school football?
Hell, I dunno.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315066</id>
	<title>Just need good marketing spin</title>
	<author>beirutbob</author>
	<datestamp>1267455000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Best... cell... reception...     EVER!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Best... cell... reception... EVER !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best... cell... reception...     EVER!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314950</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>GreatBunzinni</author>
	<datestamp>1267454160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You've missed the point.  The point is that just because something is widely deployed, accepted and free from any regulatory restriction it doesn't mean it is necessarily safe.  There are plenty of stuff which has been scientifically demonstrated to be harmful and yet it has been made available and used without any restrictions being imposed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've missed the point .
The point is that just because something is widely deployed , accepted and free from any regulatory restriction it does n't mean it is necessarily safe .
There are plenty of stuff which has been scientifically demonstrated to be harmful and yet it has been made available and used without any restrictions being imposed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've missed the point.
The point is that just because something is widely deployed, accepted and free from any regulatory restriction it doesn't mean it is necessarily safe.
There are plenty of stuff which has been scientifically demonstrated to be harmful and yet it has been made available and used without any restrictions being imposed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31325580</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1267457340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>DDT as a matter of fact is still in daily use. In China at least it is. Even though it's illegal, highly damaging to the environment in the long term, but on the short term it works wonders. And that's what the farmers see.</htmltext>
<tokenext>DDT as a matter of fact is still in daily use .
In China at least it is .
Even though it 's illegal , highly damaging to the environment in the long term , but on the short term it works wonders .
And that 's what the farmers see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DDT as a matter of fact is still in daily use.
In China at least it is.
Even though it's illegal, highly damaging to the environment in the long term, but on the short term it works wonders.
And that's what the farmers see.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318454</id>
	<title>If you really want something to worry about...</title>
	<author>n6gn</author>
	<datestamp>1267467600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Warm up a cup of coffee in your microwave oven and drink it while you look over these measurements I made at my house:
<a href="http://www.sonic.net/~n6gn/EVDOforums/radiation.pdf" title="sonic.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.sonic.net/~n6gn/EVDOforums/radiation.pdf</a> [sonic.net]
n6gn</htmltext>
<tokenext>Warm up a cup of coffee in your microwave oven and drink it while you look over these measurements I made at my house : http : //www.sonic.net/ ~ n6gn/EVDOforums/radiation.pdf [ sonic.net ] n6gn</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Warm up a cup of coffee in your microwave oven and drink it while you look over these measurements I made at my house:
http://www.sonic.net/~n6gn/EVDOforums/radiation.pdf [sonic.net]
n6gn</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314082</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267447800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If exposure to asbestos was of any danger to the public health,[sic] there is no way you would be seeing asbestos anywhere near apartment complexes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If exposure to asbestos was of any danger to the public health , [ sic ] there is no way you would be seeing asbestos anywhere near apartment complexes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If exposure to asbestos was of any danger to the public health,[sic] there is no way you would be seeing asbestos anywhere near apartment complexes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313846</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316478</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267460340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have just demonstrated why debating with nerds is so frustrating and pointless (and yet I keep coming back to Slashdot&mdash; clearly I'm not right in the head). Nerds get caught up in trivial details, and completely miss the point that is being made.</p><p>The point of the post to which you replied was that not everything that is commonly used is inherently safe. By pointing out that one of the poster's examples can be debunked, attempting to explain the reasoning behind one of the other examples (while doing nothing to dispute its dangers), and then making the ludicrous suggestion that the poster wants to avoid everything (WTF?) <i>does absolutely nothing</i> to challenge the actual point being made.</p><p>Yet, the Slashnerds, who are equally caught up in details so as to be unable to get the point, modded you "Informative".</p><p>Which brings me to ask<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... why do you hate logic?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have just demonstrated why debating with nerds is so frustrating and pointless ( and yet I keep coming back to Slashdot    clearly I 'm not right in the head ) .
Nerds get caught up in trivial details , and completely miss the point that is being made.The point of the post to which you replied was that not everything that is commonly used is inherently safe .
By pointing out that one of the poster 's examples can be debunked , attempting to explain the reasoning behind one of the other examples ( while doing nothing to dispute its dangers ) , and then making the ludicrous suggestion that the poster wants to avoid everything ( WTF ?
) does absolutely nothing to challenge the actual point being made.Yet , the Slashnerds , who are equally caught up in details so as to be unable to get the point , modded you " Informative " .Which brings me to ask ... why do you hate logic ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have just demonstrated why debating with nerds is so frustrating and pointless (and yet I keep coming back to Slashdot— clearly I'm not right in the head).
Nerds get caught up in trivial details, and completely miss the point that is being made.The point of the post to which you replied was that not everything that is commonly used is inherently safe.
By pointing out that one of the poster's examples can be debunked, attempting to explain the reasoning behind one of the other examples (while doing nothing to dispute its dangers), and then making the ludicrous suggestion that the poster wants to avoid everything (WTF?
) does absolutely nothing to challenge the actual point being made.Yet, the Slashnerds, who are equally caught up in details so as to be unable to get the point, modded you "Informative".Which brings me to ask ... why do you hate logic?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314274</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314118</id>
	<title>Re:The facts about urban wireless towers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267448100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do you think a sector antenna would be emitting only -40 dBm? That is on the level of a micro- or nano cell. The maximum allowable is well north of 10 kW EIRP, so even if that cell is tuned down to only cover a small sector, it still will be putting out 40 to 50 dBm. Otherwise, as you rightly state, reception inside builings would be nearly impossible.</p><p>I don't particularly believe in electro-sensitivity, so wouln't be too concerned even with that number, but I still would feel a bit uneasy about potential power levels. Maybe it's worthwile checking FCC permits for this particular site and the actual max. EIRP they're allowed to push out. Shielding those walls with copper mesh wall paper probably puts you right with the tinfoil hat brigade, but might avoid potential interference of any wireless equipment you might want to use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do you think a sector antenna would be emitting only -40 dBm ?
That is on the level of a micro- or nano cell .
The maximum allowable is well north of 10 kW EIRP , so even if that cell is tuned down to only cover a small sector , it still will be putting out 40 to 50 dBm .
Otherwise , as you rightly state , reception inside builings would be nearly impossible.I do n't particularly believe in electro-sensitivity , so woul n't be too concerned even with that number , but I still would feel a bit uneasy about potential power levels .
Maybe it 's worthwile checking FCC permits for this particular site and the actual max .
EIRP they 're allowed to push out .
Shielding those walls with copper mesh wall paper probably puts you right with the tinfoil hat brigade , but might avoid potential interference of any wireless equipment you might want to use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do you think a sector antenna would be emitting only -40 dBm?
That is on the level of a micro- or nano cell.
The maximum allowable is well north of 10 kW EIRP, so even if that cell is tuned down to only cover a small sector, it still will be putting out 40 to 50 dBm.
Otherwise, as you rightly state, reception inside builings would be nearly impossible.I don't particularly believe in electro-sensitivity, so wouln't be too concerned even with that number, but I still would feel a bit uneasy about potential power levels.
Maybe it's worthwile checking FCC permits for this particular site and the actual max.
EIRP they're allowed to push out.
Shielding those walls with copper mesh wall paper probably puts you right with the tinfoil hat brigade, but might avoid potential interference of any wireless equipment you might want to use.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314974</id>
	<title>Re:There are a lot of variables</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1267454460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
The meter is a very good idea, and continuous metering with an alarm threshold for "over limit for more than 10 seconds" would be even better.<br> <br>

Having said that, I'd take the FCC limits for "safe exposure to the public" and reduce them by a factor of 10, if possible - I don't know what kind of ambient radiation you get on the streets of Manhattan, but I certainly wouldn't accept sleeping in a bedroom that took 100x that exposure all night long.<br> <br>

This subject (non ionizing radiation) has been studied ad-nauseum since the 1960s, and nobody can seem to come to a conclusion that satisfies "the other side."  There are effects, an MRI is "non-ionizing radiation", and MRI scans have been shown to relieve depression due to real, measurable neurostim effects (mostly the high dB/dT during imaging).  Take it down to lower levels and there's "probably" nothing going on, except that we don't really understand the fundamental mechanisms of neuroscience well enough to know if there's an effect or not.  Just because it's a mystery doesn't prove there's an insidious link, but it does make it virtually impossible to prove there is not.<br> <br>

All in all, breathing Manhattan air and exposing yourself to the sea of humanity and pathogens that are there, not to mention the political tension, potential for terror strike, etc. is certainly a bigger concern than the cell tower by several orders of magnitude, but it would be a shame to survive all the normal big Apple health challenges and then have the tower get you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The meter is a very good idea , and continuous metering with an alarm threshold for " over limit for more than 10 seconds " would be even better .
Having said that , I 'd take the FCC limits for " safe exposure to the public " and reduce them by a factor of 10 , if possible - I do n't know what kind of ambient radiation you get on the streets of Manhattan , but I certainly would n't accept sleeping in a bedroom that took 100x that exposure all night long .
This subject ( non ionizing radiation ) has been studied ad-nauseum since the 1960s , and nobody can seem to come to a conclusion that satisfies " the other side .
" There are effects , an MRI is " non-ionizing radiation " , and MRI scans have been shown to relieve depression due to real , measurable neurostim effects ( mostly the high dB/dT during imaging ) .
Take it down to lower levels and there 's " probably " nothing going on , except that we do n't really understand the fundamental mechanisms of neuroscience well enough to know if there 's an effect or not .
Just because it 's a mystery does n't prove there 's an insidious link , but it does make it virtually impossible to prove there is not .
All in all , breathing Manhattan air and exposing yourself to the sea of humanity and pathogens that are there , not to mention the political tension , potential for terror strike , etc .
is certainly a bigger concern than the cell tower by several orders of magnitude , but it would be a shame to survive all the normal big Apple health challenges and then have the tower get you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The meter is a very good idea, and continuous metering with an alarm threshold for "over limit for more than 10 seconds" would be even better.
Having said that, I'd take the FCC limits for "safe exposure to the public" and reduce them by a factor of 10, if possible - I don't know what kind of ambient radiation you get on the streets of Manhattan, but I certainly wouldn't accept sleeping in a bedroom that took 100x that exposure all night long.
This subject (non ionizing radiation) has been studied ad-nauseum since the 1960s, and nobody can seem to come to a conclusion that satisfies "the other side.
"  There are effects, an MRI is "non-ionizing radiation", and MRI scans have been shown to relieve depression due to real, measurable neurostim effects (mostly the high dB/dT during imaging).
Take it down to lower levels and there's "probably" nothing going on, except that we don't really understand the fundamental mechanisms of neuroscience well enough to know if there's an effect or not.
Just because it's a mystery doesn't prove there's an insidious link, but it does make it virtually impossible to prove there is not.
All in all, breathing Manhattan air and exposing yourself to the sea of humanity and pathogens that are there, not to mention the political tension, potential for terror strike, etc.
is certainly a bigger concern than the cell tower by several orders of magnitude, but it would be a shame to survive all the normal big Apple health challenges and then have the tower get you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314528</id>
	<title>Depends on the energy of the photons</title>
	<author>semargofni</author>
	<datestamp>1267451700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess it depends on whether the photons have enough kinetic energy to knock a nucleotide out of a DNA molecule.
If they don't, you're safe, if they do, you would have to multiply the number of times a nucleotide gets knocked out, with the chance of developing cancer from that event (pretty small chance actually, it might even be that a base pair needs to be knocked out to create a mutation, not just one nucleotide, I wonder if anyone did any research on that).

Other than that the only thing that could happen is excitement of your molecules, making your body temperature rise, but I would guess the power you absorb over the volume of your body would be insignificant compared to other influences.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess it depends on whether the photons have enough kinetic energy to knock a nucleotide out of a DNA molecule .
If they do n't , you 're safe , if they do , you would have to multiply the number of times a nucleotide gets knocked out , with the chance of developing cancer from that event ( pretty small chance actually , it might even be that a base pair needs to be knocked out to create a mutation , not just one nucleotide , I wonder if anyone did any research on that ) .
Other than that the only thing that could happen is excitement of your molecules , making your body temperature rise , but I would guess the power you absorb over the volume of your body would be insignificant compared to other influences .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess it depends on whether the photons have enough kinetic energy to knock a nucleotide out of a DNA molecule.
If they don't, you're safe, if they do, you would have to multiply the number of times a nucleotide gets knocked out, with the chance of developing cancer from that event (pretty small chance actually, it might even be that a base pair needs to be knocked out to create a mutation, not just one nucleotide, I wonder if anyone did any research on that).
Other than that the only thing that could happen is excitement of your molecules, making your body temperature rise, but I would guess the power you absorb over the volume of your body would be insignificant compared to other influences.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31334268</id>
	<title>Resale value</title>
	<author>yusing</author>
	<datestamp>1267562580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you think you might ever sell the thing, consider that the potential buyers will have the same questions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you think you might ever sell the thing , consider that the potential buyers will have the same questions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you think you might ever sell the thing, consider that the potential buyers will have the same questions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317788</id>
	<title>Re:Conductive films, cloths, or plastics...</title>
	<author>GRW</author>
	<datestamp>1267465260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It only filters ultraviolet.  Its purpose is to prevent the fading of colours on fabrics exposed to sunlight from windows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It only filters ultraviolet .
Its purpose is to prevent the fading of colours on fabrics exposed to sunlight from windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It only filters ultraviolet.
Its purpose is to prevent the fading of colours on fabrics exposed to sunlight from windows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313916</id>
	<title>Thinfoil hat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267445940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Build yourself a faraday cage with copper in the wallpaper? <a href="http://www.hollandshielding.com/faraday/index.php" title="hollandshielding.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hollandshielding.com/faraday/index.php</a> [hollandshielding.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Build yourself a faraday cage with copper in the wallpaper ?
http : //www.hollandshielding.com/faraday/index.php [ hollandshielding.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Build yourself a faraday cage with copper in the wallpaper?
http://www.hollandshielding.com/faraday/index.php [hollandshielding.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313996</id>
	<title>Atticfoil - insulate your appartment...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267446840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>....and save on your heating bill.  At least that is what you tell the FCC when they want to know why the tower signals are getting blocked.  http://www.atticfoil.com/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>....and save on your heating bill .
At least that is what you tell the FCC when they want to know why the tower signals are getting blocked .
http : //www.atticfoil.com/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....and save on your heating bill.
At least that is what you tell the FCC when they want to know why the tower signals are getting blocked.
http://www.atticfoil.com/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317866</id>
	<title>Cellular Co may sue you for blocking signal</title>
	<author>Leemeng</author>
	<datestamp>1267465560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's something else to consider.

If you go as far as to turn your apt into an Faraday cage, use EMF shielding paint, or whathaveyou, you would probably draw the ire of the cellular co.

Since your apt is so close to the tower, any shielding in your apt could affect other users "downstream" in a fairly wide radius. Plus, the apt is in Manhattan, so that could mean the tower serves hundreds or even thousands of users!

The cellular co may accuse you of "cellphone jamming" or "blocking cellphone services", both of which are illegal in the US.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's something else to consider .
If you go as far as to turn your apt into an Faraday cage , use EMF shielding paint , or whathaveyou , you would probably draw the ire of the cellular co . Since your apt is so close to the tower , any shielding in your apt could affect other users " downstream " in a fairly wide radius .
Plus , the apt is in Manhattan , so that could mean the tower serves hundreds or even thousands of users !
The cellular co may accuse you of " cellphone jamming " or " blocking cellphone services " , both of which are illegal in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's something else to consider.
If you go as far as to turn your apt into an Faraday cage, use EMF shielding paint, or whathaveyou, you would probably draw the ire of the cellular co.

Since your apt is so close to the tower, any shielding in your apt could affect other users "downstream" in a fairly wide radius.
Plus, the apt is in Manhattan, so that could mean the tower serves hundreds or even thousands of users!
The cellular co may accuse you of "cellphone jamming" or "blocking cellphone services", both of which are illegal in the US.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316394</id>
	<title>Re:You can afford</title>
	<author>IICV</author>
	<datestamp>1267459920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>His story doesn't make much sense, it's true - there's it doesn't make much sense for the cell phone company to point sector antennas directly at his apartment, unless they <i>really</i> wanted him to have good signal. What would be more sensible is if they are pointed directly at his apartment, but tilted down (which can be hard to see if they're really pointed directly at you). This would beam signal down onto the streets beneath where they are mounted, and not at his apartment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>His story does n't make much sense , it 's true - there 's it does n't make much sense for the cell phone company to point sector antennas directly at his apartment , unless they really wanted him to have good signal .
What would be more sensible is if they are pointed directly at his apartment , but tilted down ( which can be hard to see if they 're really pointed directly at you ) .
This would beam signal down onto the streets beneath where they are mounted , and not at his apartment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His story doesn't make much sense, it's true - there's it doesn't make much sense for the cell phone company to point sector antennas directly at his apartment, unless they really wanted him to have good signal.
What would be more sensible is if they are pointed directly at his apartment, but tilted down (which can be hard to see if they're really pointed directly at you).
This would beam signal down onto the streets beneath where they are mounted, and not at his apartment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316380</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>cynical kane</author>
	<datestamp>1267459860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it's not worth it to save those kids from malaria, at the expense of the Bald Eagle... in Africa... where bald eagles are...</p><p>You're obviously talking about two different instances of banning DDT... but it's worth noting that the GP is full of shit and DDT is still used actively to combat malaria. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#DDT\_use\_against\_malaria" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#DDT\_use\_against\_malaria</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's not worth it to save those kids from malaria , at the expense of the Bald Eagle... in Africa... where bald eagles are...You 're obviously talking about two different instances of banning DDT... but it 's worth noting that the GP is full of shit and DDT is still used actively to combat malaria .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT # DDT \ _use \ _against \ _malaria [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's not worth it to save those kids from malaria, at the expense of the Bald Eagle... in Africa... where bald eagles are...You're obviously talking about two different instances of banning DDT... but it's worth noting that the GP is full of shit and DDT is still used actively to combat malaria.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#DDT\_use\_against\_malaria [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314110</id>
	<title>Re:There are a lot of variables</title>
	<author>rugger</author>
	<datestamp>1267448040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Many of the solar coatings used on windows are electtrically conductive.</p><p>This was probably why the glass was absorbing a lot of the FM radio energy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many of the solar coatings used on windows are electtrically conductive.This was probably why the glass was absorbing a lot of the FM radio energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many of the solar coatings used on windows are electtrically conductive.This was probably why the glass was absorbing a lot of the FM radio energy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314286</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267449900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just ground yourself frequently, you'll be fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just ground yourself frequently , you 'll be fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just ground yourself frequently, you'll be fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314194</id>
	<title>Re:I'd pass</title>
	<author>tagno25</author>
	<datestamp>1267448940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Cellphone antennas would not be uni-directional so there shouldn't be any focused beam or whatever it's called but who knows what other antennas will be installed in the future on the same pole.</p></div><p>A directional antenna or beam antenna is an antenna which radiates greater power in one or more directions<br>
An omnidirectional antenna is an antenna system which radiates power uniformly in one plane with a directive pattern shape in a perpendicular plane<br>
<br>
Cell phone transmitters are directional.  There are usually three sets of antennas (One transmitter per set and one or more receivers) facing in different directions.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cellphone antennas would not be uni-directional so there should n't be any focused beam or whatever it 's called but who knows what other antennas will be installed in the future on the same pole.A directional antenna or beam antenna is an antenna which radiates greater power in one or more directions An omnidirectional antenna is an antenna system which radiates power uniformly in one plane with a directive pattern shape in a perpendicular plane Cell phone transmitters are directional .
There are usually three sets of antennas ( One transmitter per set and one or more receivers ) facing in different directions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cellphone antennas would not be uni-directional so there shouldn't be any focused beam or whatever it's called but who knows what other antennas will be installed in the future on the same pole.A directional antenna or beam antenna is an antenna which radiates greater power in one or more directions
An omnidirectional antenna is an antenna system which radiates power uniformly in one plane with a directive pattern shape in a perpendicular plane

Cell phone transmitters are directional.
There are usually three sets of antennas (One transmitter per set and one or more receivers) facing in different directions.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313844</id>
	<title>If you are worried about it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267445100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dont buy it. You will worry yourself sick whatever we say.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dont buy it .
You will worry yourself sick whatever we say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dont buy it.
You will worry yourself sick whatever we say.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314180</id>
	<title>Re:You make an awful lot of money for an engineer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267448760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Duh. The point of the article was not celltower radiation, but to let everyone know that he has a penthouse in Manhattan.</p><p>Tomorrow I'm going to ask what sort of MP3 player to get for my Ferrari.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Duh .
The point of the article was not celltower radiation , but to let everyone know that he has a penthouse in Manhattan.Tomorrow I 'm going to ask what sort of MP3 player to get for my Ferrari .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Duh.
The point of the article was not celltower radiation, but to let everyone know that he has a penthouse in Manhattan.Tomorrow I'm going to ask what sort of MP3 player to get for my Ferrari.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314100</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314520</id>
	<title>Re:I heard...</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1267451640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But I had read somewhere that people that live near power lines out in the country seem to develop extremely rare forms of cancer at a higher percentage than people living in the city.</p></div><p>Since the 1930s TVA Rural electrification program, its been getting pretty difficult to find someone living in the country far away from powerlines.  So, difficult, that the data seems merely anecdotal, like, the unibomber, and uh<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... yup, the unibomber.  We have to make the wild assumption that their statistics are worth anything.  And assume they didn't just pull the whole thing out of some orifice as stereotypical anti-capitalism ranting.</p><p>Now, consider the telephone pole in front of my house.  Its got a tag on it 59-"some 5 digit number".  I have some professional work related knowledge of that simple date code, and that means that pole was sunk in the ground in 1959, its about half a century old.  No surprise given that my house was built within a year of that date.  Its frankly in pretty good shape, and at work, they claim they're on a case by case 75 year replacement schedule.  Around 2034 some power company employee will consider replacing my "telephone" pole, but if its still in good shape, it stays up with occasional inspection.  There is a cost benefit ratio where replacing a pole at 2am in the winter during a service outage is around 20 times more expensive and much more dangerous than regular scheduled maintenance replacement on a nice sunny spring afternoon.</p><p>Anyway, in the old days, heck, even now, they use incredibly toxic substances to prevent rot.  If you think a harmless raw tree branch could still be in load bearing service after a century of burial, you must live in a weird climate.  However, those substances eventually leach into the ground, where the kids play, where the garden grows, etc.  My parents always told us never to touch the telephone poles, not so much for electrocution danger or dog pee reasons but because they were sticky with creosote and god only knows what else.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I had read somewhere that people that live near power lines out in the country seem to develop extremely rare forms of cancer at a higher percentage than people living in the city.Since the 1930s TVA Rural electrification program , its been getting pretty difficult to find someone living in the country far away from powerlines .
So , difficult , that the data seems merely anecdotal , like , the unibomber , and uh ... yup , the unibomber .
We have to make the wild assumption that their statistics are worth anything .
And assume they did n't just pull the whole thing out of some orifice as stereotypical anti-capitalism ranting.Now , consider the telephone pole in front of my house .
Its got a tag on it 59- " some 5 digit number " .
I have some professional work related knowledge of that simple date code , and that means that pole was sunk in the ground in 1959 , its about half a century old .
No surprise given that my house was built within a year of that date .
Its frankly in pretty good shape , and at work , they claim they 're on a case by case 75 year replacement schedule .
Around 2034 some power company employee will consider replacing my " telephone " pole , but if its still in good shape , it stays up with occasional inspection .
There is a cost benefit ratio where replacing a pole at 2am in the winter during a service outage is around 20 times more expensive and much more dangerous than regular scheduled maintenance replacement on a nice sunny spring afternoon.Anyway , in the old days , heck , even now , they use incredibly toxic substances to prevent rot .
If you think a harmless raw tree branch could still be in load bearing service after a century of burial , you must live in a weird climate .
However , those substances eventually leach into the ground , where the kids play , where the garden grows , etc .
My parents always told us never to touch the telephone poles , not so much for electrocution danger or dog pee reasons but because they were sticky with creosote and god only knows what else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I had read somewhere that people that live near power lines out in the country seem to develop extremely rare forms of cancer at a higher percentage than people living in the city.Since the 1930s TVA Rural electrification program, its been getting pretty difficult to find someone living in the country far away from powerlines.
So, difficult, that the data seems merely anecdotal, like, the unibomber, and uh ... yup, the unibomber.
We have to make the wild assumption that their statistics are worth anything.
And assume they didn't just pull the whole thing out of some orifice as stereotypical anti-capitalism ranting.Now, consider the telephone pole in front of my house.
Its got a tag on it 59-"some 5 digit number".
I have some professional work related knowledge of that simple date code, and that means that pole was sunk in the ground in 1959, its about half a century old.
No surprise given that my house was built within a year of that date.
Its frankly in pretty good shape, and at work, they claim they're on a case by case 75 year replacement schedule.
Around 2034 some power company employee will consider replacing my "telephone" pole, but if its still in good shape, it stays up with occasional inspection.
There is a cost benefit ratio where replacing a pole at 2am in the winter during a service outage is around 20 times more expensive and much more dangerous than regular scheduled maintenance replacement on a nice sunny spring afternoon.Anyway, in the old days, heck, even now, they use incredibly toxic substances to prevent rot.
If you think a harmless raw tree branch could still be in load bearing service after a century of burial, you must live in a weird climate.
However, those substances eventually leach into the ground, where the kids play, where the garden grows, etc.
My parents always told us never to touch the telephone poles, not so much for electrocution danger or dog pee reasons but because they were sticky with creosote and god only knows what else.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313936</id>
	<title>Every visitor will ask</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267446120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if you get some information from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. and you buy it, you will need to explain that it's safe to every visitor who notices these antennas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if you get some information from / .
and you buy it , you will need to explain that it 's safe to every visitor who notices these antennas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if you get some information from /.
and you buy it, you will need to explain that it's safe to every visitor who notices these antennas.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315194</id>
	<title>Re:Insert small coil</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267455720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least the country that I live in have this practice outlawed.</p><p>It's called energy theft or something like that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least the country that I live in have this practice outlawed.It 's called energy theft or something like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least the country that I live in have this practice outlawed.It's called energy theft or something like that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31326164</id>
	<title>An "in the field" perspective.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267462380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am an rf technician and I am around lots and lots and lots of rf. This includes the quantities that have to have warning signs placed next to then. I have been doing this for several years and let me tell you, if there was a negative side effect I would be among the first to know.<br>The real question is how far away from the antenna are you?<br>What does the antenna look like? This will determine the amount of gain the antenna has and give some idea to the power being pushed through it.<br>Most basestations will broadcast anywhere from +40 to +96 db. Most rf looses roughly 40db in the first 10'.<br>Chances are the amou nt of radiation your being exposed to here is actually less than what you would be routinely exposed to walking in the downtown area of a busy city.<br>I say go for it and don't worry. If you feel the need go for the metallic paint,  but a grid works best so metal lathe  from home depot between the walls would work wonders.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am an rf technician and I am around lots and lots and lots of rf .
This includes the quantities that have to have warning signs placed next to then .
I have been doing this for several years and let me tell you , if there was a negative side effect I would be among the first to know.The real question is how far away from the antenna are you ? What does the antenna look like ?
This will determine the amount of gain the antenna has and give some idea to the power being pushed through it.Most basestations will broadcast anywhere from + 40 to + 96 db .
Most rf looses roughly 40db in the first 10'.Chances are the amou nt of radiation your being exposed to here is actually less than what you would be routinely exposed to walking in the downtown area of a busy city.I say go for it and do n't worry .
If you feel the need go for the metallic paint , but a grid works best so metal lathe from home depot between the walls would work wonders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am an rf technician and I am around lots and lots and lots of rf.
This includes the quantities that have to have warning signs placed next to then.
I have been doing this for several years and let me tell you, if there was a negative side effect I would be among the first to know.The real question is how far away from the antenna are you?What does the antenna look like?
This will determine the amount of gain the antenna has and give some idea to the power being pushed through it.Most basestations will broadcast anywhere from +40 to +96 db.
Most rf looses roughly 40db in the first 10'.Chances are the amou nt of radiation your being exposed to here is actually less than what you would be routinely exposed to walking in the downtown area of a busy city.I say go for it and don't worry.
If you feel the need go for the metallic paint,  but a grid works best so metal lathe  from home depot between the walls would work wonders.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31321286</id>
	<title>Re:Conductive films, cloths, or plastics...</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1267435380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except then he'll have no cell service, not to mention terrestrial television or radio reception.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except then he 'll have no cell service , not to mention terrestrial television or radio reception .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except then he'll have no cell service, not to mention terrestrial television or radio reception.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315272</id>
	<title>Do you use a cell phone?</title>
	<author>Bazzible</author>
	<datestamp>1267456080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Think about the coverage, not a single dropped call in that apartment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Think about the coverage , not a single dropped call in that apartment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Think about the coverage, not a single dropped call in that apartment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320886</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267477140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>     Don't know if you're serious or not, but really this was a big panic.  Asbestos is harmful, IF and ONLY IF you inhale asbestos dust.  Asbestos shingles and siding don't make dust, and asbsestos insulation makes rather a lot of dust but only if it's being torn out.  The asbestos ban was perfectly sensible, there were safer replacements on the market, and production of these asbestos products was probably quite harmful to workers in the factories.   Ripping out the EXISTING asbestos?  I don't have a source but have heard estimates there was probably more harmful asbestos exposure from the mass asbestos removals than there would have ever been just leaving it in place and perhaps tagging it so future demolitionists or whatever know it's there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't know if you 're serious or not , but really this was a big panic .
Asbestos is harmful , IF and ONLY IF you inhale asbestos dust .
Asbestos shingles and siding do n't make dust , and asbsestos insulation makes rather a lot of dust but only if it 's being torn out .
The asbestos ban was perfectly sensible , there were safer replacements on the market , and production of these asbestos products was probably quite harmful to workers in the factories .
Ripping out the EXISTING asbestos ?
I do n't have a source but have heard estimates there was probably more harmful asbestos exposure from the mass asbestos removals than there would have ever been just leaving it in place and perhaps tagging it so future demolitionists or whatever know it 's there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     Don't know if you're serious or not, but really this was a big panic.
Asbestos is harmful, IF and ONLY IF you inhale asbestos dust.
Asbestos shingles and siding don't make dust, and asbsestos insulation makes rather a lot of dust but only if it's being torn out.
The asbestos ban was perfectly sensible, there were safer replacements on the market, and production of these asbestos products was probably quite harmful to workers in the factories.
Ripping out the EXISTING asbestos?
I don't have a source but have heard estimates there was probably more harmful asbestos exposure from the mass asbestos removals than there would have ever been just leaving it in place and perhaps tagging it so future demolitionists or whatever know it's there.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314442</id>
	<title>Not worth the hassle ...</title>
	<author>lorg</author>
	<datestamp>1267450980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Science report wise it seems to be a bit of a tossup between "totally safe" and "guarantee of cancer and death" so I don't think you'll find great comfort in reading any of it, unless you think one report is better then the others.</p><p>It might be harmless and safe for "normal" exposure, whatever that is. But concidering you are going to live there, spending "lots" of time there everyday for possibly years and years to come. I think I'd pass if I was in the situation, don't think the killer appartment will be worth the potential hassle and constant thinking about the risks it would bring.</p><p>I guess if you are inclined and really want the place you could turn the entire apartment into a giant Faraday Cage totally shielding it from any type of radiation. Naturally this will probably also totally kill your cellphone reception, wifi connections and whatnot, unless you put in booster antennas for that, which sort of defeats its purpose.</p><p>Will the giant forest of antennas bring down the price? It might be worth buying then and starting to campaing against having the antennas moved, become one of those people that go down to City Hall and protest once a week and send in letters all the time.</p><p>Possibly there might be some kinda device you could aquire that will knockout the antennas, this will or might possibly be illegal, that you can turn on and off as you see fit. Eventually they might get tired of the interruptions to service and move them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Science report wise it seems to be a bit of a tossup between " totally safe " and " guarantee of cancer and death " so I do n't think you 'll find great comfort in reading any of it , unless you think one report is better then the others.It might be harmless and safe for " normal " exposure , whatever that is .
But concidering you are going to live there , spending " lots " of time there everyday for possibly years and years to come .
I think I 'd pass if I was in the situation , do n't think the killer appartment will be worth the potential hassle and constant thinking about the risks it would bring.I guess if you are inclined and really want the place you could turn the entire apartment into a giant Faraday Cage totally shielding it from any type of radiation .
Naturally this will probably also totally kill your cellphone reception , wifi connections and whatnot , unless you put in booster antennas for that , which sort of defeats its purpose.Will the giant forest of antennas bring down the price ?
It might be worth buying then and starting to campaing against having the antennas moved , become one of those people that go down to City Hall and protest once a week and send in letters all the time.Possibly there might be some kinda device you could aquire that will knockout the antennas , this will or might possibly be illegal , that you can turn on and off as you see fit .
Eventually they might get tired of the interruptions to service and move them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Science report wise it seems to be a bit of a tossup between "totally safe" and "guarantee of cancer and death" so I don't think you'll find great comfort in reading any of it, unless you think one report is better then the others.It might be harmless and safe for "normal" exposure, whatever that is.
But concidering you are going to live there, spending "lots" of time there everyday for possibly years and years to come.
I think I'd pass if I was in the situation, don't think the killer appartment will be worth the potential hassle and constant thinking about the risks it would bring.I guess if you are inclined and really want the place you could turn the entire apartment into a giant Faraday Cage totally shielding it from any type of radiation.
Naturally this will probably also totally kill your cellphone reception, wifi connections and whatnot, unless you put in booster antennas for that, which sort of defeats its purpose.Will the giant forest of antennas bring down the price?
It might be worth buying then and starting to campaing against having the antennas moved, become one of those people that go down to City Hall and protest once a week and send in letters all the time.Possibly there might be some kinda device you could aquire that will knockout the antennas, this will or might possibly be illegal, that you can turn on and off as you see fit.
Eventually they might get tired of the interruptions to service and move them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314664</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267452540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's news that the health risks of power lines is not due to the radiation, directly, but rather the effect of their <a href="http://news.discovery.com/earth/power-lines-contaminants-pcb.html" title="discovery.com" rel="nofollow">magnetic fields on pollution</a> [discovery.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's news that the health risks of power lines is not due to the radiation , directly , but rather the effect of their magnetic fields on pollution [ discovery.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's news that the health risks of power lines is not due to the radiation, directly, but rather the effect of their magnetic fields on pollution [discovery.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317636</id>
	<title>and you even consider buying it?</title>
	<author>oglueck</author>
	<datestamp>1267464660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you are already in doubt that this radiation could be a serious health risk, why do you still consider buying it? When in 10 years the radiation is known to cause longterm damage, it will be too late.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you are already in doubt that this radiation could be a serious health risk , why do you still consider buying it ?
When in 10 years the radiation is known to cause longterm damage , it will be too late .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you are already in doubt that this radiation could be a serious health risk, why do you still consider buying it?
When in 10 years the radiation is known to cause longterm damage, it will be too late.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319348</id>
	<title>manhattan penthouse?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267471140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It sounds like you can afford the chemo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds like you can afford the chemo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds like you can afford the chemo.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320032</id>
	<title>Gather empirical data</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267473660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you can find out what carrier(s) use the cell, you may be able to gather some info on the level of RF with a phone on that service. Blackberries have a code you can enter to get them to report signal strength in dBm rather than graphical bars. A jailbroken iPhone can do the same.</p><p>dBm is a log scale with 1 dBm = 1 mW. -10 dBm = 0.1 mW. Right now I'm getting -77 dBm from the nearby AT&amp;T tower. That's 1.9952623149688786 e-11 watts. That's not much radiation by the old "600 watts will pop popcorn" measure.</p><p>Another way to look at it, if you can get that dBm data, is to compare it to your WLAN signal strength. Usually the WiFi signal where ever my iPhone is attached is 10 to 30 dBm higher. That's 10 to 1000 times more radiation from an AP than the cell tower I'm associated to. Are you comfortable with your WiFi radiation?</p><p>Also, I don't know about cells in highly urban areas where there actually are subscribers at high altitudes, but out here in the 'burbs the antenna radiation patterns tend to be angled down toward the ground (like a cone). You may get less radiation standing in front of the antenna than below it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can find out what carrier ( s ) use the cell , you may be able to gather some info on the level of RF with a phone on that service .
Blackberries have a code you can enter to get them to report signal strength in dBm rather than graphical bars .
A jailbroken iPhone can do the same.dBm is a log scale with 1 dBm = 1 mW .
-10 dBm = 0.1 mW .
Right now I 'm getting -77 dBm from the nearby AT&amp;T tower .
That 's 1.9952623149688786 e-11 watts .
That 's not much radiation by the old " 600 watts will pop popcorn " measure.Another way to look at it , if you can get that dBm data , is to compare it to your WLAN signal strength .
Usually the WiFi signal where ever my iPhone is attached is 10 to 30 dBm higher .
That 's 10 to 1000 times more radiation from an AP than the cell tower I 'm associated to .
Are you comfortable with your WiFi radiation ? Also , I do n't know about cells in highly urban areas where there actually are subscribers at high altitudes , but out here in the 'burbs the antenna radiation patterns tend to be angled down toward the ground ( like a cone ) .
You may get less radiation standing in front of the antenna than below it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can find out what carrier(s) use the cell, you may be able to gather some info on the level of RF with a phone on that service.
Blackberries have a code you can enter to get them to report signal strength in dBm rather than graphical bars.
A jailbroken iPhone can do the same.dBm is a log scale with 1 dBm = 1 mW.
-10 dBm = 0.1 mW.
Right now I'm getting -77 dBm from the nearby AT&amp;T tower.
That's 1.9952623149688786 e-11 watts.
That's not much radiation by the old "600 watts will pop popcorn" measure.Another way to look at it, if you can get that dBm data, is to compare it to your WLAN signal strength.
Usually the WiFi signal where ever my iPhone is attached is 10 to 30 dBm higher.
That's 10 to 1000 times more radiation from an AP than the cell tower I'm associated to.
Are you comfortable with your WiFi radiation?Also, I don't know about cells in highly urban areas where there actually are subscribers at high altitudes, but out here in the 'burbs the antenna radiation patterns tend to be angled down toward the ground (like a cone).
You may get less radiation standing in front of the antenna than below it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315134</id>
	<title>Add Testing to the Contract</title>
	<author>foxxlf25</author>
	<datestamp>1267455420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Companies can do RF testing. Just like you have a home inspection, you could add RF testing to the clause and make them pay for it and allow any even questionable levels to allow you to walk. This would also provide clear documentation for future sale.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Companies can do RF testing .
Just like you have a home inspection , you could add RF testing to the clause and make them pay for it and allow any even questionable levels to allow you to walk .
This would also provide clear documentation for future sale .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Companies can do RF testing.
Just like you have a home inspection, you could add RF testing to the clause and make them pay for it and allow any even questionable levels to allow you to walk.
This would also provide clear documentation for future sale.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314418</id>
	<title>Re:There are a lot of variables</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267450740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And there are no known guaranteed safe levels of R.F. exposure. Brain tumours from R.F. take up to 20+ years to develop and then can kill as surely as the kind that grow quickly. My advice.............. Fergeddaboutit. Not in a pink fit would I buy into a situation that had a continuous R.F. signal from a cell phone relay.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And there are no known guaranteed safe levels of R.F .
exposure. Brain tumours from R.F .
take up to 20 + years to develop and then can kill as surely as the kind that grow quickly .
My advice.............. Fergeddaboutit. Not in a pink fit would I buy into a situation that had a continuous R.F .
signal from a cell phone relay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And there are no known guaranteed safe levels of R.F.
exposure. Brain tumours from R.F.
take up to 20+ years to develop and then can kill as surely as the kind that grow quickly.
My advice.............. Fergeddaboutit. Not in a pink fit would I buy into a situation that had a continuous R.F.
signal from a cell phone relay.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319652</id>
	<title>Get conductive curtains</title>
	<author>TheSync</author>
	<datestamp>1267472220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can get conductive fabric to make EMF-shielding curtains from <a href="http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html" title="lessemf.com">LessEMF.com</a> [lessemf.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can get conductive fabric to make EMF-shielding curtains from LessEMF.com [ lessemf.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can get conductive fabric to make EMF-shielding curtains from LessEMF.com [lessemf.com].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315382</id>
	<title>aha!</title>
	<author>whoppo</author>
	<datestamp>1267456500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So.... NYC cell providers point their panels at apartment buildings...   I guess that explains why AT&amp;T's service in Manhattan is so poor these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So.... NYC cell providers point their panels at apartment buildings... I guess that explains why AT&amp;T 's service in Manhattan is so poor these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So.... NYC cell providers point their panels at apartment buildings...   I guess that explains why AT&amp;T's service in Manhattan is so poor these days.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316704</id>
	<title>You can do your own survey</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267461240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't want to call in a consultant every time you look at a place.  Some times there is an obvious source, but other times you can have excessive fields due to hidden reasons (e.g. bad wiring, elevator drives, large power transformers, etc).  So you should always do a scan before buying anything.</p><p>Get a "body model" EMF meter like this one:  http://www.trifield.com/EMF\_meter.htm possibly here: http://www.frys.com/product/5594210?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN\_RSLT\_PG</p><p>Walk the apartment during peak usage (probably daytime for cell phones) and look for anything above the "low" readings on the meter for magnetic, electric, or RF.  If you plan to live there, you don't want to be exposed to anything medium or high.</p><p>Oddly, the Russians have the most conservative standards on all this.  Maybe that's because their industry can't lobby their lawmakers....  Of course, I'm not suggesting that the Russians enforce those standards<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>I once looked into a house that was near power lines and did such a scan on a summer evening (i.e. peak power draw).  The house was borderline OK, but the neighbors were definitely not (electric fields decay as distance is increased).  I couldn't imagine living next door and wondering what problems they might develop.</p><p>-Dan</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't want to call in a consultant every time you look at a place .
Some times there is an obvious source , but other times you can have excessive fields due to hidden reasons ( e.g .
bad wiring , elevator drives , large power transformers , etc ) .
So you should always do a scan before buying anything.Get a " body model " EMF meter like this one : http : //www.trifield.com/EMF \ _meter.htm possibly here : http : //www.frys.com/product/5594210 ? site = sr : SEARCH : MAIN \ _RSLT \ _PGWalk the apartment during peak usage ( probably daytime for cell phones ) and look for anything above the " low " readings on the meter for magnetic , electric , or RF .
If you plan to live there , you do n't want to be exposed to anything medium or high.Oddly , the Russians have the most conservative standards on all this .
Maybe that 's because their industry ca n't lobby their lawmakers.... Of course , I 'm not suggesting that the Russians enforce those standards : - ) I once looked into a house that was near power lines and did such a scan on a summer evening ( i.e .
peak power draw ) .
The house was borderline OK , but the neighbors were definitely not ( electric fields decay as distance is increased ) .
I could n't imagine living next door and wondering what problems they might develop.-Dan</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't want to call in a consultant every time you look at a place.
Some times there is an obvious source, but other times you can have excessive fields due to hidden reasons (e.g.
bad wiring, elevator drives, large power transformers, etc).
So you should always do a scan before buying anything.Get a "body model" EMF meter like this one:  http://www.trifield.com/EMF\_meter.htm possibly here: http://www.frys.com/product/5594210?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN\_RSLT\_PGWalk the apartment during peak usage (probably daytime for cell phones) and look for anything above the "low" readings on the meter for magnetic, electric, or RF.
If you plan to live there, you don't want to be exposed to anything medium or high.Oddly, the Russians have the most conservative standards on all this.
Maybe that's because their industry can't lobby their lawmakers....  Of course, I'm not suggesting that the Russians enforce those standards :-)I once looked into a house that was near power lines and did such a scan on a summer evening (i.e.
peak power draw).
The house was borderline OK, but the neighbors were definitely not (electric fields decay as distance is increased).
I couldn't imagine living next door and wondering what problems they might develop.-Dan</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316520</id>
	<title>Re:For what it's worth</title>
	<author>kaiser423</author>
	<datestamp>1267460520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Anayway, the city of Hoofddorp, where I live, forbids the placement of cellular base station antennas on top of residential buildings. I support this policy; better safe than sorry.</p></div><p>Huh?  Residential roof tops would be one of the safer places, I would think.  A simple regulation requiring the base station operator to put down a quick metal screen around the base station would provide excellent shielding, and would keep it away from most people....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anayway , the city of Hoofddorp , where I live , forbids the placement of cellular base station antennas on top of residential buildings .
I support this policy ; better safe than sorry.Huh ?
Residential roof tops would be one of the safer places , I would think .
A simple regulation requiring the base station operator to put down a quick metal screen around the base station would provide excellent shielding , and would keep it away from most people... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anayway, the city of Hoofddorp, where I live, forbids the placement of cellular base station antennas on top of residential buildings.
I support this policy; better safe than sorry.Huh?
Residential roof tops would be one of the safer places, I would think.
A simple regulation requiring the base station operator to put down a quick metal screen around the base station would provide excellent shielding, and would keep it away from most people....
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316782</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267461480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So human life trumps birds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So human life trumps birds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So human life trumps birds.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313850</id>
	<title>Easy</title>
	<author>acehole</author>
	<datestamp>1267445160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tin foil suit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tin foil suit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tin foil suit.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314624</id>
	<title>Re:Buy it</title>
	<author>lindoran</author>
	<datestamp>1267452300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&lt;quote&gt;&lt;p&gt;1) Buy it.<br>2) Sue phone company<br>3)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>4) profit!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/quote&gt;<br><br>yes! the underpants gnomes!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... ah south park you answer so many of life's little quandaries....</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Buy it.2 ) Sue phone company3 ) ...4 ) profit ! ! ! ! ! ! ! yes !
the underpants gnomes !
.... ah south park you answer so many of life 's little quandaries... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Buy it.2) Sue phone company3) ...4) profit!!!!!!!yes!
the underpants gnomes!
.... ah south park you answer so many of life's little quandaries....
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314954</id>
	<title>Re:cell tower next to village</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267454280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's because the mice were using smart phones...duh!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's because the mice were using smart phones...duh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's because the mice were using smart phones...duh!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318206</id>
	<title>field strength meter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267466700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>get a field strength meter and measure, then compare to allowable field strengths. If you try to put, say, copper screen around, measure AGAIN when done to be sure it is really blocking. Also remember if this works, cell phone, any over the air TV or radio etc. will not work in the space.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>get a field strength meter and measure , then compare to allowable field strengths .
If you try to put , say , copper screen around , measure AGAIN when done to be sure it is really blocking .
Also remember if this works , cell phone , any over the air TV or radio etc .
will not work in the space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>get a field strength meter and measure, then compare to allowable field strengths.
If you try to put, say, copper screen around, measure AGAIN when done to be sure it is really blocking.
Also remember if this works, cell phone, any over the air TV or radio etc.
will not work in the space.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318576</id>
	<title>Mobile Mania</title>
	<author>GRW</author>
	<datestamp>1267467960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here are a couple of articles in Skeptical Inquirer:  <ul> <li> <a href="http://www.csicop.org/si/show/power\_line\_panic\_and\_mobile\_mania/" title="csicop.org">Power Line Panic and Mobile Mania</a> [csicop.org] is written by a physicist. </li><li> <a href="http://www.csicop.org/si/show/growing\_hysteria/" title="csicop.org">A Growing Hysteria</a> [csicop.org] </li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here are a couple of articles in Skeptical Inquirer : Power Line Panic and Mobile Mania [ csicop.org ] is written by a physicist .
A Growing Hysteria [ csicop.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here are a couple of articles in Skeptical Inquirer:    Power Line Panic and Mobile Mania [csicop.org] is written by a physicist.
A Growing Hysteria [csicop.org] </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316610</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267460940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And a lot fewer HUMANS would be dead from malaria...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And a lot fewer HUMANS would be dead from malaria.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And a lot fewer HUMANS would be dead from malaria...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319686</id>
	<title>ask.metafilter.com</title>
	<author>Weezul</author>
	<datestamp>1267472340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd say that ask.metafilter.com is usually better for serious questions like this one, slashdot users know almost nothing outside their own favorite software or programming languages.  I'll give you an ask.metafilter.com style answer though :</p><p>If you've got the money for a penthouse in Manhattan, then you've got the money to hire a medical doctor and/or electrical engineer who can evaluate the actual radiation levels in the apartment.</p><p>You should make an appointment with an M.D. in radiology in NYC, say like Manhattan Diagnostic Radiology.  I doubt they'll have the equipment for evaluating the dangers themselves, but a radiology doctor will figure out how you should proceed, and might evaluate you for other cancer risk factors.</p><p>Two bonuses :<br>(1) you might never feel secure unless you have an actual medical opinion.<br>(2) you'll know how to alley the fears of the next person you sell the apartment to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say that ask.metafilter.com is usually better for serious questions like this one , slashdot users know almost nothing outside their own favorite software or programming languages .
I 'll give you an ask.metafilter.com style answer though : If you 've got the money for a penthouse in Manhattan , then you 've got the money to hire a medical doctor and/or electrical engineer who can evaluate the actual radiation levels in the apartment.You should make an appointment with an M.D .
in radiology in NYC , say like Manhattan Diagnostic Radiology .
I doubt they 'll have the equipment for evaluating the dangers themselves , but a radiology doctor will figure out how you should proceed , and might evaluate you for other cancer risk factors.Two bonuses : ( 1 ) you might never feel secure unless you have an actual medical opinion .
( 2 ) you 'll know how to alley the fears of the next person you sell the apartment to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say that ask.metafilter.com is usually better for serious questions like this one, slashdot users know almost nothing outside their own favorite software or programming languages.
I'll give you an ask.metafilter.com style answer though :If you've got the money for a penthouse in Manhattan, then you've got the money to hire a medical doctor and/or electrical engineer who can evaluate the actual radiation levels in the apartment.You should make an appointment with an M.D.
in radiology in NYC, say like Manhattan Diagnostic Radiology.
I doubt they'll have the equipment for evaluating the dangers themselves, but a radiology doctor will figure out how you should proceed, and might evaluate you for other cancer risk factors.Two bonuses :(1) you might never feel secure unless you have an actual medical opinion.
(2) you'll know how to alley the fears of the next person you sell the apartment to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315562</id>
	<title>Re:not expensive to use wire mesh</title>
	<author>jimbolauski</author>
	<datestamp>1267457220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No need for mesh he can replace the drywall with fire rated drywall that has a foil back.  Just tape the studs with aluminum tape so there is contunity between the boards and put a transparent mesh on the windows while it won't be perfect the levels would be knocked down.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No need for mesh he can replace the drywall with fire rated drywall that has a foil back .
Just tape the studs with aluminum tape so there is contunity between the boards and put a transparent mesh on the windows while it wo n't be perfect the levels would be knocked down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No need for mesh he can replace the drywall with fire rated drywall that has a foil back.
Just tape the studs with aluminum tape so there is contunity between the boards and put a transparent mesh on the windows while it won't be perfect the levels would be knocked down.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319288</id>
	<title>Consider the benefits</title>
	<author>DrVomact</author>
	<datestamp>1267470960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously, you have not considered the advantages of living in an apartment subject to heavy microwave radiation. Microwaves heat stuff. To prove this, just put your cat in the microwave and turn it on. Clearly, this means that you will be saving tons of money on your heating bills&mdash;the cell phone company will be heating the apartment for free! (Well, maybe they will just be heating conductive objects, like for instance <em>you</em>,  but that's all you need during those chilly Manhattan winters. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously , you have not considered the advantages of living in an apartment subject to heavy microwave radiation .
Microwaves heat stuff .
To prove this , just put your cat in the microwave and turn it on .
Clearly , this means that you will be saving tons of money on your heating bills    the cell phone company will be heating the apartment for free !
( Well , maybe they will just be heating conductive objects , like for instance you , but that 's all you need during those chilly Manhattan winters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously, you have not considered the advantages of living in an apartment subject to heavy microwave radiation.
Microwaves heat stuff.
To prove this, just put your cat in the microwave and turn it on.
Clearly, this means that you will be saving tons of money on your heating bills—the cell phone company will be heating the apartment for free!
(Well, maybe they will just be heating conductive objects, like for instance you,  but that's all you need during those chilly Manhattan winters. </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313860</id>
	<title>recent cellphone radiation reports</title>
	<author>phil42</author>
	<datestamp>1267445220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i suggest that you read the recent (and not so recent) reports that show greater risk of cancer under cell phone radiation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i suggest that you read the recent ( and not so recent ) reports that show greater risk of cancer under cell phone radiation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i suggest that you read the recent (and not so recent) reports that show greater risk of cancer under cell phone radiation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31316194</id>
	<title>Dude, think before you buy....then buy.</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1267459320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use as much info as you can from the internet and other sources to get documents showing possible threats to health, and that you would be ok to move in but at a discounted rate.</p><p>Then once moved in, proceed to start jamming the panel by using such food stuffs as<br>paints etc....shoot them using balloons(like water balloons).<br>This will make a coating needing the company to come and clean up the panel, after a few times of this they might get the idea that being so close to a building was not such a good idea, and relocate.</p><p>Might also include some other tenants in on it, to make it a sort of game if you will, keep score so that the one with the most hits gets a free bottle of vodka or something.... you would be surprised at how much people will do for free booze.</p><p>Also, make sure that no one ever does it from their window, always from the roof. If a camera catches you (or witness) they can point to the window, if they see you from the roof, they can barely make out details. Then if ever approached, just say those pesky teenagers have been at it again.</p><p>Seriously, is there no regulation about such things, I know there is for hydro lines being too close to housing, why not cell towers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use as much info as you can from the internet and other sources to get documents showing possible threats to health , and that you would be ok to move in but at a discounted rate.Then once moved in , proceed to start jamming the panel by using such food stuffs aspaints etc....shoot them using balloons ( like water balloons ) .This will make a coating needing the company to come and clean up the panel , after a few times of this they might get the idea that being so close to a building was not such a good idea , and relocate.Might also include some other tenants in on it , to make it a sort of game if you will , keep score so that the one with the most hits gets a free bottle of vodka or something.... you would be surprised at how much people will do for free booze.Also , make sure that no one ever does it from their window , always from the roof .
If a camera catches you ( or witness ) they can point to the window , if they see you from the roof , they can barely make out details .
Then if ever approached , just say those pesky teenagers have been at it again.Seriously , is there no regulation about such things , I know there is for hydro lines being too close to housing , why not cell towers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use as much info as you can from the internet and other sources to get documents showing possible threats to health, and that you would be ok to move in but at a discounted rate.Then once moved in, proceed to start jamming the panel by using such food stuffs aspaints etc....shoot them using balloons(like water balloons).This will make a coating needing the company to come and clean up the panel, after a few times of this they might get the idea that being so close to a building was not such a good idea, and relocate.Might also include some other tenants in on it, to make it a sort of game if you will, keep score so that the one with the most hits gets a free bottle of vodka or something.... you would be surprised at how much people will do for free booze.Also, make sure that no one ever does it from their window, always from the roof.
If a camera catches you (or witness) they can point to the window, if they see you from the roof, they can barely make out details.
Then if ever approached, just say those pesky teenagers have been at it again.Seriously, is there no regulation about such things, I know there is for hydro lines being too close to housing, why not cell towers?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31325930</id>
	<title>Sector 7G</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267460160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where's Klaus Hergersheimer when you need him?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's Klaus Hergersheimer when you need him ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's Klaus Hergersheimer when you need him?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320992</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>Max Threshold</author>
	<datestamp>1267434240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Also, DDT was undone by its low cost.  Farmers were using tens or even hundreds of times the effective amount because it cost next to nothing.  If used as directed, the environmental cost/benefit is even higher.  I've read that some scientists are promoting its reintroduction to combat malaria in Africa.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , DDT was undone by its low cost .
Farmers were using tens or even hundreds of times the effective amount because it cost next to nothing .
If used as directed , the environmental cost/benefit is even higher .
I 've read that some scientists are promoting its reintroduction to combat malaria in Africa .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, DDT was undone by its low cost.
Farmers were using tens or even hundreds of times the effective amount because it cost next to nothing.
If used as directed, the environmental cost/benefit is even higher.
I've read that some scientists are promoting its reintroduction to combat malaria in Africa.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314162</id>
	<title>Police radio tower gave me headaches</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267448580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I lived next to a police station for the majority of my childhood. Perhaps 40 feet away from one of those big old police radio towers. I had chronic headaches to go along with food allergies and other illnesses.</p><p>Then one year the police moved to a new location, and the tower stopped doing anything. My headaches instantly went away. I've been a lot healthier since then, too.</p><p>I never actually made the connection until my mother told me years later, so that rules out my mind/placebo.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>I do believe cell towers push out less power than that big old radio towers from the 1980's - but I'd still be cautious, given my personal experience. You're also an adult, and it's quite possible that it has no effect on adults. One of the deficits of modern testing and certification is no child trials; FCC safe could just mean 30-year-old-man safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I lived next to a police station for the majority of my childhood .
Perhaps 40 feet away from one of those big old police radio towers .
I had chronic headaches to go along with food allergies and other illnesses.Then one year the police moved to a new location , and the tower stopped doing anything .
My headaches instantly went away .
I 've been a lot healthier since then , too.I never actually made the connection until my mother told me years later , so that rules out my mind/placebo .
; ) I do believe cell towers push out less power than that big old radio towers from the 1980 's - but I 'd still be cautious , given my personal experience .
You 're also an adult , and it 's quite possible that it has no effect on adults .
One of the deficits of modern testing and certification is no child trials ; FCC safe could just mean 30-year-old-man safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lived next to a police station for the majority of my childhood.
Perhaps 40 feet away from one of those big old police radio towers.
I had chronic headaches to go along with food allergies and other illnesses.Then one year the police moved to a new location, and the tower stopped doing anything.
My headaches instantly went away.
I've been a lot healthier since then, too.I never actually made the connection until my mother told me years later, so that rules out my mind/placebo.
;)I do believe cell towers push out less power than that big old radio towers from the 1980's - but I'd still be cautious, given my personal experience.
You're also an adult, and it's quite possible that it has no effect on adults.
One of the deficits of modern testing and certification is no child trials; FCC safe could just mean 30-year-old-man safe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315052</id>
	<title>Re:You make an awful lot of money for an engineer</title>
	<author>ArsenneLupin</author>
	<datestamp>1267454880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you can afford a penthouse apartment in Manhattan, you're making an awful lot of money for a computer engineer. Where can the rest of us get jobs like yours?</p></div><p>You forget that this particular penthouse is probably lots cheaper than other penthouses in Manhatten because it has a frigging RF antenna directly pointed at the bedroom. Other prospective buyers and the seller are not ignorant of this either, so the price has been adjusted to take this risk into account...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can afford a penthouse apartment in Manhattan , you 're making an awful lot of money for a computer engineer .
Where can the rest of us get jobs like yours ? You forget that this particular penthouse is probably lots cheaper than other penthouses in Manhatten because it has a frigging RF antenna directly pointed at the bedroom .
Other prospective buyers and the seller are not ignorant of this either , so the price has been adjusted to take this risk into account.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can afford a penthouse apartment in Manhattan, you're making an awful lot of money for a computer engineer.
Where can the rest of us get jobs like yours?You forget that this particular penthouse is probably lots cheaper than other penthouses in Manhatten because it has a frigging RF antenna directly pointed at the bedroom.
Other prospective buyers and the seller are not ignorant of this either, so the price has been adjusted to take this risk into account...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31313884</id>
	<title>Try before you buy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267445520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See if you can stay a few nights.  If you start to glow in the dark, you'll want to decide between fathering children or making another investment!</p><p>On the plus side, you'd no longer need a reading lamp!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See if you can stay a few nights .
If you start to glow in the dark , you 'll want to decide between fathering children or making another investment ! On the plus side , you 'd no longer need a reading lamp !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See if you can stay a few nights.
If you start to glow in the dark, you'll want to decide between fathering children or making another investment!On the plus side, you'd no longer need a reading lamp!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320424</id>
	<title>yes</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1267475280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Am I just being a jackass?</i>
<br>
<br>
If you have enough money to afford a penthouse apartment in NYC, then yes, you are probably a jackass.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I just being a jackass ?
If you have enough money to afford a penthouse apartment in NYC , then yes , you are probably a jackass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I just being a jackass?
If you have enough money to afford a penthouse apartment in NYC, then yes, you are probably a jackass.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315822</id>
	<title>Re:cell tower next to village</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1267458120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's not quite true if I recall the story correctly.  (A village in New Zealand IIRC, I don't have the link with me now.)</p><p>The tower was active for a while, but for reasons unrelated to the complaints, the company shut it down for a few weeks.  Residents continued complaining of health effects even after the 6 week mark.  (They were not notified of the shutdown until a meeting with company reps around then.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not quite true if I recall the story correctly .
( A village in New Zealand IIRC , I do n't have the link with me now .
) The tower was active for a while , but for reasons unrelated to the complaints , the company shut it down for a few weeks .
Residents continued complaining of health effects even after the 6 week mark .
( They were not notified of the shutdown until a meeting with company reps around then .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not quite true if I recall the story correctly.
(A village in New Zealand IIRC, I don't have the link with me now.
)The tower was active for a while, but for reasons unrelated to the complaints, the company shut it down for a few weeks.
Residents continued complaining of health effects even after the 6 week mark.
(They were not notified of the shutdown until a meeting with company reps around then.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314116</id>
	<title>Faradays Cage, Measure it!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267448100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You may be able to eliminate radiation exposure by creating a faradays cage around your appertment. This means you will put chicken wire fencing against the exterior wall and maybe a finer type over the windows. That will reflect any radiation (look into it to be sure). Also ther must be a way to determine the level of RF in the appartment, there is expert equipment to measure it, that may not be to costly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may be able to eliminate radiation exposure by creating a faradays cage around your appertment .
This means you will put chicken wire fencing against the exterior wall and maybe a finer type over the windows .
That will reflect any radiation ( look into it to be sure ) .
Also ther must be a way to determine the level of RF in the appartment , there is expert equipment to measure it , that may not be to costly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may be able to eliminate radiation exposure by creating a faradays cage around your appertment.
This means you will put chicken wire fencing against the exterior wall and maybe a finer type over the windows.
That will reflect any radiation (look into it to be sure).
Also ther must be a way to determine the level of RF in the appartment, there is expert equipment to measure it, that may not be to costly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314918</id>
	<title>Re:Conductive films, cloths, or plastics...</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1267453980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmm, and then call tech support because your phone doesn't work inside your apartment...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , and then call tech support because your phone does n't work inside your apartment.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, and then call tech support because your phone doesn't work inside your apartment...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315582</id>
	<title>Re:There are a lot of variables</title>
	<author>Leghorn</author>
	<datestamp>1267457280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Darnnit!  Didn't proofread closely enough.  ANSI C95.1 is the correct standard.  Thanks phobos512.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Darnnit !
Did n't proofread closely enough .
ANSI C95.1 is the correct standard .
Thanks phobos512 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Darnnit!
Didn't proofread closely enough.
ANSI C95.1 is the correct standard.
Thanks phobos512.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314038</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315076</id>
	<title>Don't put shielding up on your walls...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267455180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But rather, put shielding around then antenna.  That way:</p><p>* You will need a lot less metal lathe<br>* You don't need to buy expensive transparent shielding for your windows<br>* You will eliminate all radiation coming from it!</p><p>Aw heck, you could just get a cutting torch...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But rather , put shielding around then antenna .
That way : * You will need a lot less metal lathe * You do n't need to buy expensive transparent shielding for your windows * You will eliminate all radiation coming from it ! Aw heck , you could just get a cutting torch.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But rather, put shielding around then antenna.
That way:* You will need a lot less metal lathe* You don't need to buy expensive transparent shielding for your windows* You will eliminate all radiation coming from it!Aw heck, you could just get a cutting torch...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315240</id>
	<title>Re:Conductive films, cloths, or plastics...</title>
	<author>gparent</author>
	<datestamp>1267455960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows.</p></div><p>Does it work on Linux?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows.Does it work on Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a product called Scotch-Tint that is a EMF reducer for windows.Does it work on Linux?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31340136</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>duffbeer703</author>
	<datestamp>1267548420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forgot about the real killer that is lurking in every home in the United States: <a href="http://www.dhmo.org/" title="dhmo.org">dihydrogen monoxide</a> [dhmo.org]. Dihydrogen monoxide is used in all sorts of industrial processes and is associated with thousands of deaths each year, it a is a major component of acid rain, has been linked to school shootings, and can be found in our rivers and streams.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot about the real killer that is lurking in every home in the United States : dihydrogen monoxide [ dhmo.org ] .
Dihydrogen monoxide is used in all sorts of industrial processes and is associated with thousands of deaths each year , it a is a major component of acid rain , has been linked to school shootings , and can be found in our rivers and streams .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot about the real killer that is lurking in every home in the United States: dihydrogen monoxide [dhmo.org].
Dihydrogen monoxide is used in all sorts of industrial processes and is associated with thousands of deaths each year, it a is a major component of acid rain, has been linked to school shootings, and can be found in our rivers and streams.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31327280</id>
	<title>You canna change the laws of physics</title>
	<author>LandGator</author>
	<datestamp>1267562580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let's do the math: Ask a biochemist or a physicist.<br>

If you calculate the energy required to break a carbon-carbon molecular bond (348 kJ/mol) you can caluate the mininum frequency which can generate that energy, as &gt; 600 THz. Your cellular antennas transmit between 0.8 and 1.99 GHz, nowhere close by over four orders of magnitude. <br>

Now, sunlight is dangerous, but not a 20W transceiver 6' away.  Police cars typically use higher power radios, and you don't see them kvetching about the risk. <br>

If you are still concerned, put some aluminum window scren on the wall where the antennas are mounted, and stucco over the screen.<br>

<a href="http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/emf.html" title="quackwatch.org">http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/emf.html</a> [quackwatch.org] debunks the 'power lines cause leukemia' myth, BTW.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's do the math : Ask a biochemist or a physicist .
If you calculate the energy required to break a carbon-carbon molecular bond ( 348 kJ/mol ) you can caluate the mininum frequency which can generate that energy , as &gt; 600 THz .
Your cellular antennas transmit between 0.8 and 1.99 GHz , nowhere close by over four orders of magnitude .
Now , sunlight is dangerous , but not a 20W transceiver 6 ' away .
Police cars typically use higher power radios , and you do n't see them kvetching about the risk .
If you are still concerned , put some aluminum window scren on the wall where the antennas are mounted , and stucco over the screen .
http : //www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/emf.html [ quackwatch.org ] debunks the 'power lines cause leukemia ' myth , BTW .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's do the math: Ask a biochemist or a physicist.
If you calculate the energy required to break a carbon-carbon molecular bond (348 kJ/mol) you can caluate the mininum frequency which can generate that energy, as &gt; 600 THz.
Your cellular antennas transmit between 0.8 and 1.99 GHz, nowhere close by over four orders of magnitude.
Now, sunlight is dangerous, but not a 20W transceiver 6' away.
Police cars typically use higher power radios, and you don't see them kvetching about the risk.
If you are still concerned, put some aluminum window scren on the wall where the antennas are mounted, and stucco over the screen.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/emf.html [quackwatch.org] debunks the 'power lines cause leukemia' myth, BTW.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31318008</id>
	<title>physics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267466100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am a medical physicist.  Leghorn points out earlier that the RF microwave radiation is NON-IONIZING.  Ionizing radiation (like UV and x-rays) are what can potentially damage DNA and increase probability of cancer.  Radiation of the RF/microwave wavelength is non-ionizing.  Don't worry about your health.</p><p>DO: worry about interference with other RF devices you have, such as wifi routers.  There may be interference depending on if there's overlap in the broadcast spectra.</p><p>DO: act like you're concerned about the towers to drive the price down when you negotiate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a medical physicist .
Leghorn points out earlier that the RF microwave radiation is NON-IONIZING .
Ionizing radiation ( like UV and x-rays ) are what can potentially damage DNA and increase probability of cancer .
Radiation of the RF/microwave wavelength is non-ionizing .
Do n't worry about your health.DO : worry about interference with other RF devices you have , such as wifi routers .
There may be interference depending on if there 's overlap in the broadcast spectra.DO : act like you 're concerned about the towers to drive the price down when you negotiate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a medical physicist.
Leghorn points out earlier that the RF microwave radiation is NON-IONIZING.
Ionizing radiation (like UV and x-rays) are what can potentially damage DNA and increase probability of cancer.
Radiation of the RF/microwave wavelength is non-ionizing.
Don't worry about your health.DO: worry about interference with other RF devices you have, such as wifi routers.
There may be interference depending on if there's overlap in the broadcast spectra.DO: act like you're concerned about the towers to drive the price down when you negotiate.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314538</id>
	<title>Re:For what it's worth</title>
	<author>stupid\_is</author>
	<datestamp>1267451760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Anyway, the city of Hoofddorp, where I live, forbids the placement of cellular base station antennas on top of residential buildings. I support this policy; better safe than sorry.</p></div><p>Sticking them on top is probably the safest place for them as it is unlikely that any of the signal is directed downwards due to the beam-form produced by the antennas (unless they are pointing downwards, which somewhat limits the coverage achievable).</p><p>GSM &amp; UMTS antennas typically output 20W, and handsets peak at 2W (maybe 5W for older ones), but you will get the highest dose directly in front of the antenna</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyway , the city of Hoofddorp , where I live , forbids the placement of cellular base station antennas on top of residential buildings .
I support this policy ; better safe than sorry.Sticking them on top is probably the safest place for them as it is unlikely that any of the signal is directed downwards due to the beam-form produced by the antennas ( unless they are pointing downwards , which somewhat limits the coverage achievable ) .GSM &amp; UMTS antennas typically output 20W , and handsets peak at 2W ( maybe 5W for older ones ) , but you will get the highest dose directly in front of the antenna</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyway, the city of Hoofddorp, where I live, forbids the placement of cellular base station antennas on top of residential buildings.
I support this policy; better safe than sorry.Sticking them on top is probably the safest place for them as it is unlikely that any of the signal is directed downwards due to the beam-form produced by the antennas (unless they are pointing downwards, which somewhat limits the coverage achievable).GSM &amp; UMTS antennas typically output 20W, and handsets peak at 2W (maybe 5W for older ones), but you will get the highest dose directly in front of the antenna
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319450</id>
	<title>Re:Conductive films, cloths, or plastics...</title>
	<author>bobs666</author>
	<datestamp>1267471560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And This is why I have aluminum foil under my hat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And This is why I have aluminum foil under my hat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And This is why I have aluminum foil under my hat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31315538</id>
	<title>Re:You can afford</title>
	<author>akboss</author>
	<datestamp>1267457100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But I bet you get fantastic reception in the apt.

Never a dropped call.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I bet you get fantastic reception in the apt .
Never a dropped call .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I bet you get fantastic reception in the apt.
Never a dropped call.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314880</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>vegiVamp</author>
	<datestamp>1267453800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; There is enough evidence that radiation can be hazardious.</p><p>Yeah, we should've outlawed that evil daystar centuries ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; There is enough evidence that radiation can be hazardious.Yeah , we should 've outlawed that evil daystar centuries ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; There is enough evidence that radiation can be hazardious.Yeah, we should've outlawed that evil daystar centuries ago.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319210</id>
	<title>Yes you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>DogAlmity</author>
	<datestamp>1267470660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But only for using Ask Slashdot as a means to brag about buying a penthouse in Manhattan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But only for using Ask Slashdot as a means to brag about buying a penthouse in Manhattan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But only for using Ask Slashdot as a means to brag about buying a penthouse in Manhattan.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31319404</id>
	<title>Re:cell tower next to village</title>
	<author>Bill\_the\_Engineer</author>
	<datestamp>1267471380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had a similar experience when I was an active amateur radio operator. I constructed a 40 foot rohn tower in my backyard to support my 10 - 40 meter yagi antenna. My lawyer friend (who happens to be a ham too) recommended that I let the antenna sit on the tower for a couple of weeks before actually installing the cables.
</p><p>The home owners' association filed a grievance against me complaining about TV interference and "head aches" (more like eye-sore). Anyway, I didn't have to use the boiler plate FCC part 15 defense. Instead, I let their representative with my lawyer inspect the tower. After they realized that the tower was not even functional, they ended their complaint. My lawyer reminded them that he will use the visit and the followup "inspection report" as evidence that the complaint is aesthetic related (which wasn't cover by my deed's covenant) and not safety related. I never had any more trouble from them, and operated the station until I moved into my new house.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a similar experience when I was an active amateur radio operator .
I constructed a 40 foot rohn tower in my backyard to support my 10 - 40 meter yagi antenna .
My lawyer friend ( who happens to be a ham too ) recommended that I let the antenna sit on the tower for a couple of weeks before actually installing the cables .
The home owners ' association filed a grievance against me complaining about TV interference and " head aches " ( more like eye-sore ) .
Anyway , I did n't have to use the boiler plate FCC part 15 defense .
Instead , I let their representative with my lawyer inspect the tower .
After they realized that the tower was not even functional , they ended their complaint .
My lawyer reminded them that he will use the visit and the followup " inspection report " as evidence that the complaint is aesthetic related ( which was n't cover by my deed 's covenant ) and not safety related .
I never had any more trouble from them , and operated the station until I moved into my new house .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a similar experience when I was an active amateur radio operator.
I constructed a 40 foot rohn tower in my backyard to support my 10 - 40 meter yagi antenna.
My lawyer friend (who happens to be a ham too) recommended that I let the antenna sit on the tower for a couple of weeks before actually installing the cables.
The home owners' association filed a grievance against me complaining about TV interference and "head aches" (more like eye-sore).
Anyway, I didn't have to use the boiler plate FCC part 15 defense.
Instead, I let their representative with my lawyer inspect the tower.
After they realized that the tower was not even functional, they ended their complaint.
My lawyer reminded them that he will use the visit and the followup "inspection report" as evidence that the complaint is aesthetic related (which wasn't cover by my deed's covenant) and not safety related.
I never had any more trouble from them, and operated the station until I moved into my new house.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31320862</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>GWBasic</author>
	<datestamp>1267477020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If DDT were still in use, the Bald Eagle would be extinct, along with several other birds.</p> </div><p>That's because our parents / grandparents were spraying it all over the countryside.  Looking back, it was pretty irresponsible.</p><p>Unfortunately, DDT is the only thing that bedbugs and prevents re-infestations, and now that it's illegal, bedbugs are making a comeback.  In the days of DDT, an exterminator could leave a coat of DDT that would kill eggs that hatch for the next few months.  Today, the best we can do is bag a mattress and hope that we got rid of all of the eggs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If DDT were still in use , the Bald Eagle would be extinct , along with several other birds .
That 's because our parents / grandparents were spraying it all over the countryside .
Looking back , it was pretty irresponsible.Unfortunately , DDT is the only thing that bedbugs and prevents re-infestations , and now that it 's illegal , bedbugs are making a comeback .
In the days of DDT , an exterminator could leave a coat of DDT that would kill eggs that hatch for the next few months .
Today , the best we can do is bag a mattress and hope that we got rid of all of the eggs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If DDT were still in use, the Bald Eagle would be extinct, along with several other birds.
That's because our parents / grandparents were spraying it all over the countryside.
Looking back, it was pretty irresponsible.Unfortunately, DDT is the only thing that bedbugs and prevents re-infestations, and now that it's illegal, bedbugs are making a comeback.
In the days of DDT, an exterminator could leave a coat of DDT that would kill eggs that hatch for the next few months.
Today, the best we can do is bag a mattress and hope that we got rid of all of the eggs.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314980</id>
	<title>Re:For what it's worth</title>
	<author>cerberusss</author>
	<datestamp>1267454460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If anyone is interested, here is a summary of the study in a presentation form (PDF):<br>COFAM study result <a href="http://www.who.int/peh-emf/meetings/archive/en/vanrongen\_tno.pdf" title="who.int">http://www.who.int/peh-emf/meetings/archive/en/vanrongen\_tno.pdf</a> [who.int]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If anyone is interested , here is a summary of the study in a presentation form ( PDF ) : COFAM study result http : //www.who.int/peh-emf/meetings/archive/en/vanrongen \ _tno.pdf [ who.int ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If anyone is interested, here is a summary of the study in a presentation form (PDF):COFAM study result http://www.who.int/peh-emf/meetings/archive/en/vanrongen\_tno.pdf [who.int]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31317224</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>untorqued</author>
	<datestamp>1267463040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If DDT were still in use, the Bald Eagle would be extinct, along with several other birds.</p></div><p>As I understand it, before DDT was banned in the U.S., it's main effect on bird reproduction was a result of its being sprayed outside in massive quantities to kill teh bugz. Today, the rest of the world (where it's not banned) has different protocols; turns out small amounts in a room, for example, keeps the room mosquito free. And no one thinks massive outdoor spraying makes sense anymore.
Maybe a reaction of "let's use this tool more wisely" would've done just as well at preserving wild birds as the "it's evil, let's ban it" reaction did. And we'd have, y'know, a useful tool available too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If DDT were still in use , the Bald Eagle would be extinct , along with several other birds.As I understand it , before DDT was banned in the U.S. , it 's main effect on bird reproduction was a result of its being sprayed outside in massive quantities to kill teh bugz .
Today , the rest of the world ( where it 's not banned ) has different protocols ; turns out small amounts in a room , for example , keeps the room mosquito free .
And no one thinks massive outdoor spraying makes sense anymore .
Maybe a reaction of " let 's use this tool more wisely " would 've done just as well at preserving wild birds as the " it 's evil , let 's ban it " reaction did .
And we 'd have , y'know , a useful tool available too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If DDT were still in use, the Bald Eagle would be extinct, along with several other birds.As I understand it, before DDT was banned in the U.S., it's main effect on bird reproduction was a result of its being sprayed outside in massive quantities to kill teh bugz.
Today, the rest of the world (where it's not banned) has different protocols; turns out small amounts in a room, for example, keeps the room mosquito free.
And no one thinks massive outdoor spraying makes sense anymore.
Maybe a reaction of "let's use this tool more wisely" would've done just as well at preserving wild birds as the "it's evil, let's ban it" reaction did.
And we'd have, y'know, a useful tool available too.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314138</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>GreatBunzinni</author>
	<datestamp>1267448280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that why <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7460-large-study-links-power-lines-to-childhood-cancer.html" title="newscientist.com" rel="nofollow">it has been observed that children living under power lines had a 70\% increased risk of leukemia?</a> [newscientist.com]?  Is that why <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#Effects\_on\_human\_health" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">DDT has been sprayed directly onto people as a standard anti-mosquito practice?</a> [wikipedia.org].  Is that why <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">asbestos has been used extensively as an insulator and structural material?</a> [wikipedia.org]  Is that why <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead\_paint" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">lead paint has been the standard paint for home renovation and art?</a> [wikipedia.org] Is that why <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline#Health\_concerns" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">gasoline is carcinogenic?</a> [wikipedia.org]  Is that why <a href="http://www.osha.gov/dsg/guidance/cement-guidance.html" title="osha.gov" rel="nofollow">wet Portland cement causes serious health problems which include severe burns that damage nerves?</a> [osha.gov]</p><p>Just because something is banal, widely used and is seen as an accepted practice it doesn't mean that it is perfectly safe and free from any nasty side effects.  History has a pretty long damning list of cases where the dangers are only known after the stuff that causes them is widely deployed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that why it has been observed that children living under power lines had a 70 \ % increased risk of leukemia ?
[ newscientist.com ] ? Is that why DDT has been sprayed directly onto people as a standard anti-mosquito practice ?
[ wikipedia.org ] . Is that why asbestos has been used extensively as an insulator and structural material ?
[ wikipedia.org ] Is that why lead paint has been the standard paint for home renovation and art ?
[ wikipedia.org ] Is that why gasoline is carcinogenic ?
[ wikipedia.org ] Is that why wet Portland cement causes serious health problems which include severe burns that damage nerves ?
[ osha.gov ] Just because something is banal , widely used and is seen as an accepted practice it does n't mean that it is perfectly safe and free from any nasty side effects .
History has a pretty long damning list of cases where the dangers are only known after the stuff that causes them is widely deployed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that why it has been observed that children living under power lines had a 70\% increased risk of leukemia?
[newscientist.com]?  Is that why DDT has been sprayed directly onto people as a standard anti-mosquito practice?
[wikipedia.org].  Is that why asbestos has been used extensively as an insulator and structural material?
[wikipedia.org]  Is that why lead paint has been the standard paint for home renovation and art?
[wikipedia.org] Is that why gasoline is carcinogenic?
[wikipedia.org]  Is that why wet Portland cement causes serious health problems which include severe burns that damage nerves?
[osha.gov]Just because something is banal, widely used and is seen as an accepted practice it doesn't mean that it is perfectly safe and free from any nasty side effects.
History has a pretty long damning list of cases where the dangers are only known after the stuff that causes them is widely deployed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_01_0035243.31314216</id>
	<title>Re:The facts about urban wireless towers</title>
	<author>Ropati</author>
	<datestamp>1267449120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>George probably has it right.</p><p>This is low level non-ionizing radiation, so the only real effect is body heating.  Generally body heating is dispersed (except in the eyeballs and testicles) by the flow of body fluids.  It takes a lot of power to heat a human body (even eyeballs).  There probably isn't enough heat being generated in your body by radio wave absorption to be measured.</p><p>However you do sleep in one position.  These types of  antennas are highly directional and they could have hotspots.  Cell towers operators don't care about RF hazards except to satisfy the FCC.  If you are worried, you could put some grounded foil on the wall between your bed and the antenna and make a modified tin foil hat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>George probably has it right.This is low level non-ionizing radiation , so the only real effect is body heating .
Generally body heating is dispersed ( except in the eyeballs and testicles ) by the flow of body fluids .
It takes a lot of power to heat a human body ( even eyeballs ) .
There probably is n't enough heat being generated in your body by radio wave absorption to be measured.However you do sleep in one position .
These types of antennas are highly directional and they could have hotspots .
Cell towers operators do n't care about RF hazards except to satisfy the FCC .
If you are worried , you could put some grounded foil on the wall between your bed and the antenna and make a modified tin foil hat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>George probably has it right.This is low level non-ionizing radiation, so the only real effect is body heating.
Generally body heating is dispersed (except in the eyeballs and testicles) by the flow of body fluids.
It takes a lot of power to heat a human body (even eyeballs).
There probably isn't enough heat being generated in your body by radio wave absorption to be measured.However you do sleep in one position.
These types of  antennas are highly directional and they could have hotspots.
Cell towers operators don't care about RF hazards except to satisfy the FCC.
If you are worried, you could put some grounded foil on the wall between your bed and the antenna and make a modified tin foil hat.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Yes, you are being a jackass</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1267458480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Banning DDT made sense in the US, because our Malaria rates are rather low, and we can afford the more expensive alternatives to DDT that don't interfere with local wildlife.</p><p>There was also quite a bit of hysteria at the time concerning its potential effect on humans, which was perhaps a good precaution to take, but ultimately unnecessary, as these claims were extensively debunked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Banning DDT made sense in the US , because our Malaria rates are rather low , and we can afford the more expensive alternatives to DDT that do n't interfere with local wildlife.There was also quite a bit of hysteria at the time concerning its potential effect on humans , which was perhaps a good precaution to take , but ultimately unnecessary , as these claims were extensively debunked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Banning DDT made sense in the US, because our Malaria rates are rather low, and we can afford the more expensive alternatives to DDT that don't interfere with local wildlife.There was also quite a bit of hysteria at the time concerning its potential effect on humans, which was perhaps a good precaution to take, but ultimately unnecessary, as these claims were extensively debunked.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Reaches for my robe and tin-foil hat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267446000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a feeling over the next decade we're going to hear of a lot more studies into the long-term effects of these signals. We will see revelations similar to the asbestos/cigarette debacles, and our younger generations will simply ask us "how could you think they wouldn't have a negative effect on you??".</p><p>Unfortunately I can only see things getting a lot worse before they get better as developing nations begin to embrace mobile phones/wireless devices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a feeling over the next decade we 're going to hear of a lot more studies into the long-term effects of these signals .
We will see revelations similar to the asbestos/cigarette debacles , and our younger generations will simply ask us " how could you think they would n't have a negative effect on you ? ?
" .Unfortunately I can only see things getting a lot worse before they get better as developing nations begin to embrace mobile phones/wireless devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a feeling over the next decade we're going to hear of a lot more studies into the long-term effects of these signals.
We will see revelations similar to the asbestos/cigarette debacles, and our younger generations will simply ask us "how could you think they wouldn't have a negative effect on you??
".Unfortunately I can only see things getting a lot worse before they get better as developing nations begin to embrace mobile phones/wireless devices.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Ask a local ham</title>
	<author>nsayer</author>
	<datestamp>1267443360000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>By that, I mean amateur radio operator. Since the amateur radio service rules include RF exposure safety rules, and we all have to know how to do the math, they will likely be able to reassure you that the situation is safe. The rules for amateur stations are similar to the rules that all other RF transmitting services generally have to follow. Since the condo is not part of the fenced in enclosure where the antenna is, it's part of the 'uncontrolled' space (that is, space where the general public - particularly people not owning or working on the antenna). The exposure limits for uncontrolled space exposure are much stricter than controlled space (that is, any place where a person could be without having the transmitter shut down).</p><p>In all likelihood, the antennas in question are aimed such that the energy won't be going into the apartment. How can that be? They have to pay to generate the RF, and they want as much of it as possible to hit the opposite antenna rather than be used to irradiate a nearby condo.</p><p>They're selling this unit for a song likely because of the "what if?" thoughts you yourself are having. Educate yourself and turn this into an opportunity to acquire an undervalued property!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By that , I mean amateur radio operator .
Since the amateur radio service rules include RF exposure safety rules , and we all have to know how to do the math , they will likely be able to reassure you that the situation is safe .
The rules for amateur stations are similar to the rules that all other RF transmitting services generally have to follow .
Since the condo is not part of the fenced in enclosure where the antenna is , it 's part of the 'uncontrolled ' space ( that is , space where the general public - particularly people not owning or working on the antenna ) .
The exposure limits for uncontrolled space exposure are much stricter than controlled space ( that is , any place where a person could be without having the transmitter shut down ) .In all likelihood , the antennas in question are aimed such that the energy wo n't be going into the apartment .
How can that be ?
They have to pay to generate the RF , and they want as much of it as possible to hit the opposite antenna rather than be used to irradiate a nearby condo.They 're selling this unit for a song likely because of the " what if ?
" thoughts you yourself are having .
Educate yourself and turn this into an opportunity to acquire an undervalued property !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By that, I mean amateur radio operator.
Since the amateur radio service rules include RF exposure safety rules, and we all have to know how to do the math, they will likely be able to reassure you that the situation is safe.
The rules for amateur stations are similar to the rules that all other RF transmitting services generally have to follow.
Since the condo is not part of the fenced in enclosure where the antenna is, it's part of the 'uncontrolled' space (that is, space where the general public - particularly people not owning or working on the antenna).
The exposure limits for uncontrolled space exposure are much stricter than controlled space (that is, any place where a person could be without having the transmitter shut down).In all likelihood, the antennas in question are aimed such that the energy won't be going into the apartment.
How can that be?
They have to pay to generate the RF, and they want as much of it as possible to hit the opposite antenna rather than be used to irradiate a nearby condo.They're selling this unit for a song likely because of the "what if?
" thoughts you yourself are having.
Educate yourself and turn this into an opportunity to acquire an undervalued property!</sentencetext>
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