<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_24_1939257</id>
	<title>Cryptome in Hot Water Again</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1267006920000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>garg0yle writes to tell us that Cryptome appears to have stepped in it again with a recent leaked document concerning Microsoft's "<a href="http://www.geekosystem.com/cryptome-leaks-microsofts-online-surveillance-guide-ms-demands-takedown/">Global Criminal Compliance Handbook</a>."  <i>"Microsoft has demanded that Cryptome take down the guide &mdash; on the grounds that it constitutes a 'copyrighted [work] published by Microsoft.' Yesterday, at 5pm, Cryptome editor John Young received a notice from his site&rsquo;s host, Network Solutions, bearing a stiff ultimatum: citing the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), Network Solutions told him that unless he takes the 'copyrighted material' down, they will 'disable [his] website' on Thursday, February 25, 2010.  So far, Young refuses to budge."</i>  In a gesture of goodwill, Wikileaks has <a href="http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/9587992205">offered to host Cryptome</a> via their twitter feed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>garg0yle writes to tell us that Cryptome appears to have stepped in it again with a recent leaked document concerning Microsoft 's " Global Criminal Compliance Handbook .
" " Microsoft has demanded that Cryptome take down the guide    on the grounds that it constitutes a 'copyrighted [ work ] published by Microsoft .
' Yesterday , at 5pm , Cryptome editor John Young received a notice from his site    s host , Network Solutions , bearing a stiff ultimatum : citing the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ( DMCA ) , Network Solutions told him that unless he takes the 'copyrighted material ' down , they will 'disable [ his ] website ' on Thursday , February 25 , 2010 .
So far , Young refuses to budge .
" In a gesture of goodwill , Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>garg0yle writes to tell us that Cryptome appears to have stepped in it again with a recent leaked document concerning Microsoft's "Global Criminal Compliance Handbook.
"  "Microsoft has demanded that Cryptome take down the guide — on the grounds that it constitutes a 'copyrighted [work] published by Microsoft.
' Yesterday, at 5pm, Cryptome editor John Young received a notice from his site’s host, Network Solutions, bearing a stiff ultimatum: citing the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), Network Solutions told him that unless he takes the 'copyrighted material' down, they will 'disable [his] website' on Thursday, February 25, 2010.
So far, Young refuses to budge.
"  In a gesture of goodwill, Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266702</id>
	<title>DMCA and DNS</title>
	<author>Sloppy</author>
	<datestamp>1265115420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DMCA notice/counternotice rules are clearly about hosts.  It's not about directories, names, pointers, etc.</p><p>DNS registrars should be able to safely ignore DMCA notices.  If they voluntarily cut off service when there's no compulsion to do so, then they're not serious businesses nor legitimate entities in the internet community.</p><p>Personally, I can't imagine why anyone would want to do business with Network Solutions due to slimey "customer service" issues, but this even goes deeper than that.  C'mon, folks, quit using bogus registrars.</p><p>I use and recommend gandi.net due to their track record of just plain not fucking around with their customers.  Over the years Gandi has earned their reputation.   My only reservation about Gandi is that I haven't kept up-to-date on all the consequences of their being under French jurisdiction, but my tea leaves tell me that I pretty much want to use <em>someone</em> in the EU (with the obvious exception of the United Kingdom).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DMCA notice/counternotice rules are clearly about hosts .
It 's not about directories , names , pointers , etc.DNS registrars should be able to safely ignore DMCA notices .
If they voluntarily cut off service when there 's no compulsion to do so , then they 're not serious businesses nor legitimate entities in the internet community.Personally , I ca n't imagine why anyone would want to do business with Network Solutions due to slimey " customer service " issues , but this even goes deeper than that .
C'mon , folks , quit using bogus registrars.I use and recommend gandi.net due to their track record of just plain not fucking around with their customers .
Over the years Gandi has earned their reputation .
My only reservation about Gandi is that I have n't kept up-to-date on all the consequences of their being under French jurisdiction , but my tea leaves tell me that I pretty much want to use someone in the EU ( with the obvious exception of the United Kingdom ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DMCA notice/counternotice rules are clearly about hosts.
It's not about directories, names, pointers, etc.DNS registrars should be able to safely ignore DMCA notices.
If they voluntarily cut off service when there's no compulsion to do so, then they're not serious businesses nor legitimate entities in the internet community.Personally, I can't imagine why anyone would want to do business with Network Solutions due to slimey "customer service" issues, but this even goes deeper than that.
C'mon, folks, quit using bogus registrars.I use and recommend gandi.net due to their track record of just plain not fucking around with their customers.
Over the years Gandi has earned their reputation.
My only reservation about Gandi is that I haven't kept up-to-date on all the consequences of their being under French jurisdiction, but my tea leaves tell me that I pretty much want to use someone in the EU (with the obvious exception of the United Kingdom).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31270564</id>
	<title>Re:Network Solutions as Judge, Jury, and Execution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267101900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's pretty safe to assume that there are some pieces of paper floating around, National Secuirty Letters for example, but if I told you that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh wait<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's pretty safe to assume that there are some pieces of paper floating around , National Secuirty Letters for example , but if I told you that ... oh wait .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's pretty safe to assume that there are some pieces of paper floating around, National Secuirty Letters for example, but if I told you that ... oh wait ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266278</id>
	<title>Re:But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>\_bug\_</author>
	<datestamp>1265112780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em>So their claim is legally correct and everything, isn't it?</em></p><p>IANAL, but an argument for <a href="http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107" title="copyright.gov" rel="nofollow">fair use</a> [copyright.gov] could be made. You could argue Cryptome's publication of the document is news worthy and being used for the purpose of criticism and comment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So their claim is legally correct and everything , is n't it ? IANAL , but an argument for fair use [ copyright.gov ] could be made .
You could argue Cryptome 's publication of the document is news worthy and being used for the purpose of criticism and comment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So their claim is legally correct and everything, isn't it?IANAL, but an argument for fair use [copyright.gov] could be made.
You could argue Cryptome's publication of the document is news worthy and being used for the purpose of criticism and comment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267968</id>
	<title>Re:But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265126160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think we might have to side with MS on this one.  This document, just like any other product, is copyright MS and they have a right to say how it is distributed.  I think if this guy were allowing people to download unlicensed copies of windows, or representing some OSS package as original work and not following the OS license, we may not be so sympathetic.
<p>
In any case, there does not seem be a lot in the document.  The DCMA seems to be a fair cop.  There doc does not seem to be a lynchpin in a nefarious plot.  The document is not some government document paid by tax payer money the arbitrarily classified to keep some moron from embarrassment.  It is just a simple document that spells out policy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think we might have to side with MS on this one .
This document , just like any other product , is copyright MS and they have a right to say how it is distributed .
I think if this guy were allowing people to download unlicensed copies of windows , or representing some OSS package as original work and not following the OS license , we may not be so sympathetic .
In any case , there does not seem be a lot in the document .
The DCMA seems to be a fair cop .
There doc does not seem to be a lynchpin in a nefarious plot .
The document is not some government document paid by tax payer money the arbitrarily classified to keep some moron from embarrassment .
It is just a simple document that spells out policy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think we might have to side with MS on this one.
This document, just like any other product, is copyright MS and they have a right to say how it is distributed.
I think if this guy were allowing people to download unlicensed copies of windows, or representing some OSS package as original work and not following the OS license, we may not be so sympathetic.
In any case, there does not seem be a lot in the document.
The DCMA seems to be a fair cop.
There doc does not seem to be a lynchpin in a nefarious plot.
The document is not some government document paid by tax payer money the arbitrarily classified to keep some moron from embarrassment.
It is just a simple document that spells out policy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267264</id>
	<title>Re:But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265119560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The document is mainly facts. Facts themselves can't be copyrighted (if they could, you wouldn't be able to learn the scores of sporting events without paying). As such, it would be possible to create a new work containing all of the facts that are available in this document and publish that. Attempts to take down your work would be very easy to defend against. In truth, showing that a new document created using only facts that are now public is very similar to the original work, one could make an argument that a copyright claim is of little merit.</p><p>Such a document could look like this:</p><p> <b>Microsoft has online services that retain data on user's connections and the contents of their communications, and that data is available to law enforcement.</b> </p><p>Increasing quantities of information will be disclosed depending on whether law enforcement provides Microsoft with a subpoena, court order, or search warrant. This information appears to be available through a handy web interface to the agency requesting the information. Microsoft doesn't clearly state the procedure or availability for non-law enforcement agencies (such as those bringing civil suit) to receive their retained information through court actions. </p><p> <em>For Email services (hotmail, msn, live), information retained by Microsoft (and the legal instrument to receive it):</em> </p><ul> <li>Registration contact info and IP address used to register (available by subpoena)</li><li>IP access logs, usage logs, billing information (only subpoena needed)</li>
<li>Full message contents of emails over 180 days old (only subpoena needed)</li>
<li>Address book, contact list, internet usage logs, email headers (available by court order)</li><li>Complete disclosure of all contents of all emails including email contents less than 180 days old (search warrant required)</li></ul><p> <em>Duration and scope of retention of email information by Microsoft:</em> </p><ul>
<li>Registration details and IP address used to register: retained for entire life of account,</li><li>Emails (headers and contents) - any currently stored on servers (no detail given about retention of deleted emails)</li><li>Windows Live ID (used to log in) - last 10 connections, IP addresses used, and all sites accessed with that ID</li></ul><p>Similar information is retained for instant messaging, windows live spaces, msn groups, windows live domain administrator, online file storage services, and even the xbox live service, although this author is to lazy to detail them.</p><p>


Notice: The above work (30 minutes of artistic time needed), is protected under copyright of this poster, even though no notice of Copyright is required after 1989, and even though this work is entirely a list of facts regarding how Microsoft retains data and discloses it to authorities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The document is mainly facts .
Facts themselves ca n't be copyrighted ( if they could , you would n't be able to learn the scores of sporting events without paying ) .
As such , it would be possible to create a new work containing all of the facts that are available in this document and publish that .
Attempts to take down your work would be very easy to defend against .
In truth , showing that a new document created using only facts that are now public is very similar to the original work , one could make an argument that a copyright claim is of little merit.Such a document could look like this : Microsoft has online services that retain data on user 's connections and the contents of their communications , and that data is available to law enforcement .
Increasing quantities of information will be disclosed depending on whether law enforcement provides Microsoft with a subpoena , court order , or search warrant .
This information appears to be available through a handy web interface to the agency requesting the information .
Microsoft does n't clearly state the procedure or availability for non-law enforcement agencies ( such as those bringing civil suit ) to receive their retained information through court actions .
For Email services ( hotmail , msn , live ) , information retained by Microsoft ( and the legal instrument to receive it ) : Registration contact info and IP address used to register ( available by subpoena ) IP access logs , usage logs , billing information ( only subpoena needed ) Full message contents of emails over 180 days old ( only subpoena needed ) Address book , contact list , internet usage logs , email headers ( available by court order ) Complete disclosure of all contents of all emails including email contents less than 180 days old ( search warrant required ) Duration and scope of retention of email information by Microsoft : Registration details and IP address used to register : retained for entire life of account,Emails ( headers and contents ) - any currently stored on servers ( no detail given about retention of deleted emails ) Windows Live ID ( used to log in ) - last 10 connections , IP addresses used , and all sites accessed with that IDSimilar information is retained for instant messaging , windows live spaces , msn groups , windows live domain administrator , online file storage services , and even the xbox live service , although this author is to lazy to detail them .
Notice : The above work ( 30 minutes of artistic time needed ) , is protected under copyright of this poster , even though no notice of Copyright is required after 1989 , and even though this work is entirely a list of facts regarding how Microsoft retains data and discloses it to authorities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The document is mainly facts.
Facts themselves can't be copyrighted (if they could, you wouldn't be able to learn the scores of sporting events without paying).
As such, it would be possible to create a new work containing all of the facts that are available in this document and publish that.
Attempts to take down your work would be very easy to defend against.
In truth, showing that a new document created using only facts that are now public is very similar to the original work, one could make an argument that a copyright claim is of little merit.Such a document could look like this: Microsoft has online services that retain data on user's connections and the contents of their communications, and that data is available to law enforcement.
Increasing quantities of information will be disclosed depending on whether law enforcement provides Microsoft with a subpoena, court order, or search warrant.
This information appears to be available through a handy web interface to the agency requesting the information.
Microsoft doesn't clearly state the procedure or availability for non-law enforcement agencies (such as those bringing civil suit) to receive their retained information through court actions.
For Email services (hotmail, msn, live), information retained by Microsoft (and the legal instrument to receive it):  Registration contact info and IP address used to register (available by subpoena)IP access logs, usage logs, billing information (only subpoena needed)
Full message contents of emails over 180 days old (only subpoena needed)
Address book, contact list, internet usage logs, email headers (available by court order)Complete disclosure of all contents of all emails including email contents less than 180 days old (search warrant required) Duration and scope of retention of email information by Microsoft: 
Registration details and IP address used to register: retained for entire life of account,Emails (headers and contents) - any currently stored on servers (no detail given about retention of deleted emails)Windows Live ID (used to log in) - last 10 connections, IP addresses used, and all sites accessed with that IDSimilar information is retained for instant messaging, windows live spaces, msn groups, windows live domain administrator, online file storage services, and even the xbox live service, although this author is to lazy to detail them.
Notice: The above work (30 minutes of artistic time needed), is protected under copyright of this poster, even though no notice of Copyright is required after 1989, and even though this work is entirely a list of facts regarding how Microsoft retains data and discloses it to authorities.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31269038</id>
	<title>Re:The smaller they are the easier they fall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265137560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure how this is Insightful?<br>Google isn't the issue here.<br>The issue here is yet ANOTHER fscking abuse of the DMCA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure how this is Insightful ? Google is n't the issue here.The issue here is yet ANOTHER fscking abuse of the DMCA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure how this is Insightful?Google isn't the issue here.The issue here is yet ANOTHER fscking abuse of the DMCA</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265718</id>
	<title>Re:Already gone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265110080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/cryptome.org</p><p>It's just you. <a href="http://cryptome.org/" title="cryptome.org" rel="nofollow">http://cryptome.org/</a> [cryptome.org]  is up.</p></div><p>But I can't resolve it either. How intriguing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //downforeveryoneorjustme.com/cryptome.orgIt 's just you .
http : //cryptome.org/ [ cryptome.org ] is up.But I ca n't resolve it either .
How intriguing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/cryptome.orgIt's just you.
http://cryptome.org/ [cryptome.org]  is up.But I can't resolve it either.
How intriguing.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266122</id>
	<title>Re:The smaller they are the easier they fall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265112060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does google even have an upstream provider?  Aren't they directly connected on multiple BGP routers and owning their own Fiber?   I don't think blocking google would be a trivial matter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does google even have an upstream provider ?
Are n't they directly connected on multiple BGP routers and owning their own Fiber ?
I do n't think blocking google would be a trivial matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does google even have an upstream provider?
Aren't they directly connected on multiple BGP routers and owning their own Fiber?
I don't think blocking google would be a trivial matter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266918</id>
	<title>Torrent for M$ document</title>
	<author>*ThE jEsTeR oF dArKn</author>
	<datestamp>1265116920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5391023/microsoft-spy.pdf" title="thepiratebay.org" rel="nofollow">http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5391023/microsoft-spy.pdf</a> [thepiratebay.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //thepiratebay.org/torrent/5391023/microsoft-spy.pdf [ thepiratebay.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5391023/microsoft-spy.pdf [thepiratebay.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266444</id>
	<title>I find it pretty hilarious that...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265113680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>4chan is hosted by NS, and that nobody seems to give a shit about all the copyrighted content that flies through there.</p><p>I guess the post purging probably puts a stop to most people caring.  Huzzahs for (most) imageboard software(s) saving the day again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>4chan is hosted by NS , and that nobody seems to give a shit about all the copyrighted content that flies through there.I guess the post purging probably puts a stop to most people caring .
Huzzahs for ( most ) imageboard software ( s ) saving the day again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4chan is hosted by NS, and that nobody seems to give a shit about all the copyrighted content that flies through there.I guess the post purging probably puts a stop to most people caring.
Huzzahs for (most) imageboard software(s) saving the day again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266394</id>
	<title>Pick the right registrar</title>
	<author>Rijnzael</author>
	<datestamp>1265113440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course being hosted in the United States is one problem if you want to be an indiscriminate whistle-blower, but an even more serious problem is picking a registrar hosted in the United States.  Not only are you and your server host accountable to the DMCA, but so is the company that has the permanent on-off switch to your site's name.

When I registered domain names that I thought might ever contain the slightest bit of content that could get me in hot water via the DMCA, I made sure to register my domain names through a registrar which hosts much more notable sites with content in contravention of DMCA.  So, I ran a whois on the most notable site I could think of which completely disrespects copyrights (ThePirateBay), and registered my domain names at Key-Systems, <a href="http://dd24.net/" title="dd24.net" rel="nofollow">http://dd24.net/</a> [dd24.net] being their consumer-facing site.  They might be a bit more of an expense (being that I incur a foreign transaction fee with every registration/renewal), but I think the peace of mind in knowing you won't be losing your domain name due to copyright disputes is very worth it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course being hosted in the United States is one problem if you want to be an indiscriminate whistle-blower , but an even more serious problem is picking a registrar hosted in the United States .
Not only are you and your server host accountable to the DMCA , but so is the company that has the permanent on-off switch to your site 's name .
When I registered domain names that I thought might ever contain the slightest bit of content that could get me in hot water via the DMCA , I made sure to register my domain names through a registrar which hosts much more notable sites with content in contravention of DMCA .
So , I ran a whois on the most notable site I could think of which completely disrespects copyrights ( ThePirateBay ) , and registered my domain names at Key-Systems , http : //dd24.net/ [ dd24.net ] being their consumer-facing site .
They might be a bit more of an expense ( being that I incur a foreign transaction fee with every registration/renewal ) , but I think the peace of mind in knowing you wo n't be losing your domain name due to copyright disputes is very worth it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course being hosted in the United States is one problem if you want to be an indiscriminate whistle-blower, but an even more serious problem is picking a registrar hosted in the United States.
Not only are you and your server host accountable to the DMCA, but so is the company that has the permanent on-off switch to your site's name.
When I registered domain names that I thought might ever contain the slightest bit of content that could get me in hot water via the DMCA, I made sure to register my domain names through a registrar which hosts much more notable sites with content in contravention of DMCA.
So, I ran a whois on the most notable site I could think of which completely disrespects copyrights (ThePirateBay), and registered my domain names at Key-Systems, http://dd24.net/ [dd24.net] being their consumer-facing site.
They might be a bit more of an expense (being that I incur a foreign transaction fee with every registration/renewal), but I think the peace of mind in knowing you won't be losing your domain name due to copyright disputes is very worth it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265658</id>
	<title>Already gone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265109840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like DNS has already gone...</p><blockquote><div><p>Searching for cryptome.org. A record at G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. [192.112.36.4]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...took 31 ms<br>Searching for cryptome.org. A record at D0.ORG.AFILIAS-NST.org. [199.19.57.1]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...took 9 ms</p><p>Nameserver D0.ORG.AFILIAS-NST.org. reports: No such host cryptome.org</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like DNS has already gone...Searching for cryptome.org .
A record at G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET .
[ 192.112.36.4 ] ...took 31 msSearching for cryptome.org .
A record at D0.ORG.AFILIAS-NST.org .
[ 199.19.57.1 ] ...took 9 msNameserver D0.ORG.AFILIAS-NST.org .
reports : No such host cryptome.org</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like DNS has already gone...Searching for cryptome.org.
A record at G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
[192.112.36.4] ...took 31 msSearching for cryptome.org.
A record at D0.ORG.AFILIAS-NST.org.
[199.19.57.1] ...took 9 msNameserver D0.ORG.AFILIAS-NST.org.
reports: No such host cryptome.org
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266258</id>
	<title>Re:Network Solutions as Judge, Jury, and Execution</title>
	<author>Lehk228</author>
	<datestamp>1265112720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>if he didn't counter-notice, then network solutions did exactly what they had to do under the DMCA</htmltext>
<tokenext>if he did n't counter-notice , then network solutions did exactly what they had to do under the DMCA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if he didn't counter-notice, then network solutions did exactly what they had to do under the DMCA</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265866</id>
	<title>Confirmed.</title>
	<author>headkase</author>
	<datestamp>1265110620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whatever is in that document, thank you Microsoft for 100\% confirming it is what you said.  Now, http has heads.  You *can* cut them off.  Where there is a disconnect between morality and law however is called corruption and that needs to be measured in each case: anyone care to measure here?  So, you can cut off all the http heads.  What good will that do you?  You think Cryptome doesn't have contacts?  Doesn't have people who are in the know and know what they are looking for?  Microsoft just gave them some free advertising that they have it.  Everyone who wants it already does have it by now.  And in a shortish while after some corrupt wrangling the http head will come back up and start serving again until the next grand advertisement occurs.  But always, occuring in parallel to all this are the things without heads: it will take a great deal more corruption in law to silence those.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whatever is in that document , thank you Microsoft for 100 \ % confirming it is what you said .
Now , http has heads .
You * can * cut them off .
Where there is a disconnect between morality and law however is called corruption and that needs to be measured in each case : anyone care to measure here ?
So , you can cut off all the http heads .
What good will that do you ?
You think Cryptome does n't have contacts ?
Does n't have people who are in the know and know what they are looking for ?
Microsoft just gave them some free advertising that they have it .
Everyone who wants it already does have it by now .
And in a shortish while after some corrupt wrangling the http head will come back up and start serving again until the next grand advertisement occurs .
But always , occuring in parallel to all this are the things without heads : it will take a great deal more corruption in law to silence those .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whatever is in that document, thank you Microsoft for 100\% confirming it is what you said.
Now, http has heads.
You *can* cut them off.
Where there is a disconnect between morality and law however is called corruption and that needs to be measured in each case: anyone care to measure here?
So, you can cut off all the http heads.
What good will that do you?
You think Cryptome doesn't have contacts?
Doesn't have people who are in the know and know what they are looking for?
Microsoft just gave them some free advertising that they have it.
Everyone who wants it already does have it by now.
And in a shortish while after some corrupt wrangling the http head will come back up and start serving again until the next grand advertisement occurs.
But always, occuring in parallel to all this are the things without heads: it will take a great deal more corruption in law to silence those.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265694</id>
	<title>www.cryptome.org: server not found</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265110020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267738</id>
	<title>Re:Is this the same Wikileaks...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265124240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>no, screw that.  generosity is good in all times and this is another reason you should support wikileaks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>no , screw that .
generosity is good in all times and this is another reason you should support wikileaks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no, screw that.
generosity is good in all times and this is another reason you should support wikileaks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266088</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266160</id>
	<title>Re:Move on...nothing to see here...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265112240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Having just skimmed the doc, I don't see why anyone would care. The information available to law enforcement is actually less than I had expected.</i></p><p>Actually, I suspect that Microsoft are flat-out lying. There was a murder case in Toronto, Canada where a teenage girl persuaded her boyfriend to murder another girl:</p><p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/03/13/rengel-trial.html" title="www.cbc.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/03/13/rengel-trial.html</a> [www.cbc.ca]<br><a href="http://www.thestar.com/article/596268" title="thestar.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestar.com/article/596268</a> [thestar.com]</p><p>Much of the evidence was in MSN chat logs between the girl and her boyfriend. This Microsoft document claims on page 13 that "Microsoft does not log the content of communications between users".</p><p>So if it isn't logged, where did all this evidence come from?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having just skimmed the doc , I do n't see why anyone would care .
The information available to law enforcement is actually less than I had expected.Actually , I suspect that Microsoft are flat-out lying .
There was a murder case in Toronto , Canada where a teenage girl persuaded her boyfriend to murder another girl : http : //www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/03/13/rengel-trial.html [ www.cbc.ca ] http : //www.thestar.com/article/596268 [ thestar.com ] Much of the evidence was in MSN chat logs between the girl and her boyfriend .
This Microsoft document claims on page 13 that " Microsoft does not log the content of communications between users " .So if it is n't logged , where did all this evidence come from ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having just skimmed the doc, I don't see why anyone would care.
The information available to law enforcement is actually less than I had expected.Actually, I suspect that Microsoft are flat-out lying.
There was a murder case in Toronto, Canada where a teenage girl persuaded her boyfriend to murder another girl:http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/03/13/rengel-trial.html [www.cbc.ca]http://www.thestar.com/article/596268 [thestar.com]Much of the evidence was in MSN chat logs between the girl and her boyfriend.
This Microsoft document claims on page 13 that "Microsoft does not log the content of communications between users".So if it isn't logged, where did all this evidence come from?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31271188</id>
	<title>ALL cloud-delivered service cos should reveal</title>
	<author>davide marney</author>
	<datestamp>1267108020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just read the MS document, and concur with other comments here.  Knowing the document's contents actually RAISES my level of trust, since it lays out precisely the conditions under which private information will be revealed (basically: go through the court system), and what information is available.</p><p>All companies who deliver cloud-based services should reveal this information to their customers.  There is absolutely no reason to keep it secret.  Microsoft, Google, Yahoo:  man up, and make it official.</p><p>Seeing how Network Solutions is utterly mis-handling this situation is destroying my trust in them by the bucket-load.  I am seriously considering moving my domains off of them.  I certainly wouldn't want to be strong-armed just because I made some big company like MS mad!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just read the MS document , and concur with other comments here .
Knowing the document 's contents actually RAISES my level of trust , since it lays out precisely the conditions under which private information will be revealed ( basically : go through the court system ) , and what information is available.All companies who deliver cloud-based services should reveal this information to their customers .
There is absolutely no reason to keep it secret .
Microsoft , Google , Yahoo : man up , and make it official.Seeing how Network Solutions is utterly mis-handling this situation is destroying my trust in them by the bucket-load .
I am seriously considering moving my domains off of them .
I certainly would n't want to be strong-armed just because I made some big company like MS mad !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just read the MS document, and concur with other comments here.
Knowing the document's contents actually RAISES my level of trust, since it lays out precisely the conditions under which private information will be revealed (basically: go through the court system), and what information is available.All companies who deliver cloud-based services should reveal this information to their customers.
There is absolutely no reason to keep it secret.
Microsoft, Google, Yahoo:  man up, and make it official.Seeing how Network Solutions is utterly mis-handling this situation is destroying my trust in them by the bucket-load.
I am seriously considering moving my domains off of them.
I certainly wouldn't want to be strong-armed just because I made some big company like MS mad!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266350</id>
	<title>Re:The smaller they are the easier they fall</title>
	<author>slimjim8094</author>
	<datestamp>1265113200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does Google even *have* upstream providers any more? I guess so... but none that'd be stupid enough to cut them off.</p><p>What Google should do is light up enough of that dark fiber to *own* it's datacenter-to-datacenter links. Then they could easily become their own Tier-1 provider.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does Google even * have * upstream providers any more ?
I guess so... but none that 'd be stupid enough to cut them off.What Google should do is light up enough of that dark fiber to * own * it 's datacenter-to-datacenter links .
Then they could easily become their own Tier-1 provider .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does Google even *have* upstream providers any more?
I guess so... but none that'd be stupid enough to cut them off.What Google should do is light up enough of that dark fiber to *own* it's datacenter-to-datacenter links.
Then they could easily become their own Tier-1 provider.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266588</id>
	<title>Re:Network Solutions as Judge, Jury, and Execution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265114700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed.  I am just surprised there's anyone left doing business with Notwork Solutions.  You get what you pay for.</p><p>Let it be another continuing lesson to avoid using them for anything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
I am just surprised there 's anyone left doing business with Notwork Solutions .
You get what you pay for.Let it be another continuing lesson to avoid using them for anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
I am just surprised there's anyone left doing business with Notwork Solutions.
You get what you pay for.Let it be another continuing lesson to avoid using them for anything.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265940</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265950</id>
	<title>Hosting via Twitter</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1265111100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed.</p></div><p>This Twitter stuff is getting out of control. First it starts as 140 character messages, now they're hosting entire websites with it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed.This Twitter stuff is getting out of control .
First it starts as 140 character messages , now they 're hosting entire websites with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed.This Twitter stuff is getting out of control.
First it starts as 140 character messages, now they're hosting entire websites with it.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266846</id>
	<title>Donate to WikiLeaks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265116500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A gentle reminder to please donate to keep WikiLeaks going, the site is still not fully operational.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A gentle reminder to please donate to keep WikiLeaks going , the site is still not fully operational .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A gentle reminder to please donate to keep WikiLeaks going, the site is still not fully operational.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266154</id>
	<title>Re:Move on...nothing to see here...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265112240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep.  This thing only has legs because Microsoft are being a dick about it.  Otherwise nobody would care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep .
This thing only has legs because Microsoft are being a dick about it .
Otherwise nobody would care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep.
This thing only has legs because Microsoft are being a dick about it.
Otherwise nobody would care.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267568</id>
	<title>Re:Is this the same Wikileaks...</title>
	<author>Teufelsmuhle</author>
	<datestamp>1265122440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're right.  The best way for a non-profit short on funds to attract attention and additional contributions is to cease fulfilling their charter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right .
The best way for a non-profit short on funds to attract attention and additional contributions is to cease fulfilling their charter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right.
The best way for a non-profit short on funds to attract attention and additional contributions is to cease fulfilling their charter.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266088</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267286</id>
	<title>Re:Network Solutions as Judge, Jury, and Execution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265119800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You need to read before commenting.<br>Cryptome was asked to take down the content, they refused, and issued a counter claim.<br>The provider did as the DMCA tells them to do. Take down the site for 10 days. If the<br>offended party hasn't started the ligation process, the site will be back up within a maximum<br>of 14 days after it was taken down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You need to read before commenting.Cryptome was asked to take down the content , they refused , and issued a counter claim.The provider did as the DMCA tells them to do .
Take down the site for 10 days .
If theoffended party has n't started the ligation process , the site will be back up within a maximumof 14 days after it was taken down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You need to read before commenting.Cryptome was asked to take down the content, they refused, and issued a counter claim.The provider did as the DMCA tells them to do.
Take down the site for 10 days.
If theoffended party hasn't started the ligation process, the site will be back up within a maximumof 14 days after it was taken down.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266302</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31276750</id>
	<title>Re:Mirror and Donation Link Here</title>
	<author>kozmico</author>
	<datestamp>1267088700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Network Solutions has removed the block. The site is back up: <a href="http://cryptome.org./" title="cryptome.org." rel="nofollow">http://cryptome.org./</a> [cryptome.org.]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Network Solutions has removed the block .
The site is back up : http : //cryptome.org./ [ cryptome.org .
]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Network Solutions has removed the block.
The site is back up: http://cryptome.org./ [cryptome.org.
]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265800</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31268238</id>
	<title>Re:But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>c</author>
	<datestamp>1265128740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; So their claim is legally correct and everything, isn't it?</p><p>Well, assuming a document you never intended to publish is treated as being under copyright rather than, say, a trade secret.</p><p>c.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; So their claim is legally correct and everything , is n't it ? Well , assuming a document you never intended to publish is treated as being under copyright rather than , say , a trade secret.c .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; So their claim is legally correct and everything, isn't it?Well, assuming a document you never intended to publish is treated as being under copyright rather than, say, a trade secret.c.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266058</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266794</id>
	<title>Re:Move on...nothing to see here...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265116080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>from experience - MSN does not log chat details but - afaik - they DO log times/IP addresses and a few other critical details.   I don't know all of the particulars but it came up in a case I got involved with (because I -do- log everything and someone else did something criminal that I logged....)<br>(case closed some years back.  Particulars don't matter outside that I'm very happy they perp was caught.   Was exposed to somewhat of what MSN does.   I also note that the RCMP and FBI are friendly if you deal with them reasonably *grin*)</htmltext>
<tokenext>from experience - MSN does not log chat details but - afaik - they DO log times/IP addresses and a few other critical details .
I do n't know all of the particulars but it came up in a case I got involved with ( because I -do- log everything and someone else did something criminal that I logged.... ) ( case closed some years back .
Particulars do n't matter outside that I 'm very happy they perp was caught .
Was exposed to somewhat of what MSN does .
I also note that the RCMP and FBI are friendly if you deal with them reasonably * grin * )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from experience - MSN does not log chat details but - afaik - they DO log times/IP addresses and a few other critical details.
I don't know all of the particulars but it came up in a case I got involved with (because I -do- log everything and someone else did something criminal that I logged....)(case closed some years back.
Particulars don't matter outside that I'm very happy they perp was caught.
Was exposed to somewhat of what MSN does.
I also note that the RCMP and FBI are friendly if you deal with them reasonably *grin*)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266160</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265850</id>
	<title>The smaller they are the easier they fall</title>
	<author>Adrian Lopez</author>
	<datestamp>1265110500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder what this says about the degree of power different entities have when they choose to resist DMCA requests. Would Google's upstream provider(s) ever dare to take Google offline should Google decide not to comply with a particular DMCA request like Cryptome's provider has done? I suspect not. There must be an advantage to being a big player on the Internet, and a clear disadvantage under the DMCA to being as small as Cryptome. It's easier to be bullied when you're Cryptome, which somehow makes the DMCA seem even worse than I once thought it was.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what this says about the degree of power different entities have when they choose to resist DMCA requests .
Would Google 's upstream provider ( s ) ever dare to take Google offline should Google decide not to comply with a particular DMCA request like Cryptome 's provider has done ?
I suspect not .
There must be an advantage to being a big player on the Internet , and a clear disadvantage under the DMCA to being as small as Cryptome .
It 's easier to be bullied when you 're Cryptome , which somehow makes the DMCA seem even worse than I once thought it was .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what this says about the degree of power different entities have when they choose to resist DMCA requests.
Would Google's upstream provider(s) ever dare to take Google offline should Google decide not to comply with a particular DMCA request like Cryptome's provider has done?
I suspect not.
There must be an advantage to being a big player on the Internet, and a clear disadvantage under the DMCA to being as small as Cryptome.
It's easier to be bullied when you're Cryptome, which somehow makes the DMCA seem even worse than I once thought it was.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266092</id>
	<title>cached DNS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265111880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm, anyone got a cached IP address for cryptome?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , anyone got a cached IP address for cryptome ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, anyone got a cached IP address for cryptome?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265658</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266432</id>
	<title>We who would all be in chains</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265113560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No wonder we're so slow to advance as humans, let alone move off this rock. We're stuck with monopolies squabbling over crumbs.</p><p>Take your so-called interoperability, Microsoft, and shove it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No wonder we 're so slow to advance as humans , let alone move off this rock .
We 're stuck with monopolies squabbling over crumbs.Take your so-called interoperability , Microsoft , and shove it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No wonder we're so slow to advance as humans, let alone move off this rock.
We're stuck with monopolies squabbling over crumbs.Take your so-called interoperability, Microsoft, and shove it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266068</id>
	<title>Re:Mirror of the offending document?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265111700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MD5: f688c4406d3a3fb76f72248630fea270</p><p>I don't understand why it's supposedly confidential - there's nothing sensitive in it whatsoever, it seems to match up perfectly with their privacy policies, and even confirms that (for example) they do not log the content of Messenger conversations.</p><p>I am amazed that after all this time, all those secret and quasi-secret documents published, cryptome was finally destroyed by this, however. What Wikileaks does today was to a large extent pioneered by John Young. But it appears copyright has finally trumped free speech in the US - the astute will note that in fact, Netsol's response is, though pigheaded, in perfect compliance with the DMCA 512(g)(2) counter-notification proposal (in the actual DMCA as enacted in the US, counter-notifications cannot take effect immediately, it must stay down for 10 days!).</p><p>I hope John Young's creation comes back, hopefully unstoppable, but it is a crushing blow for a long-standing privacy and free speech campaigner that he may have to move the servers out-of-jurisdiction to actually exercise that free speech.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MD5 : f688c4406d3a3fb76f72248630fea270I do n't understand why it 's supposedly confidential - there 's nothing sensitive in it whatsoever , it seems to match up perfectly with their privacy policies , and even confirms that ( for example ) they do not log the content of Messenger conversations.I am amazed that after all this time , all those secret and quasi-secret documents published , cryptome was finally destroyed by this , however .
What Wikileaks does today was to a large extent pioneered by John Young .
But it appears copyright has finally trumped free speech in the US - the astute will note that in fact , Netsol 's response is , though pigheaded , in perfect compliance with the DMCA 512 ( g ) ( 2 ) counter-notification proposal ( in the actual DMCA as enacted in the US , counter-notifications can not take effect immediately , it must stay down for 10 days !
) .I hope John Young 's creation comes back , hopefully unstoppable , but it is a crushing blow for a long-standing privacy and free speech campaigner that he may have to move the servers out-of-jurisdiction to actually exercise that free speech .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MD5: f688c4406d3a3fb76f72248630fea270I don't understand why it's supposedly confidential - there's nothing sensitive in it whatsoever, it seems to match up perfectly with their privacy policies, and even confirms that (for example) they do not log the content of Messenger conversations.I am amazed that after all this time, all those secret and quasi-secret documents published, cryptome was finally destroyed by this, however.
What Wikileaks does today was to a large extent pioneered by John Young.
But it appears copyright has finally trumped free speech in the US - the astute will note that in fact, Netsol's response is, though pigheaded, in perfect compliance with the DMCA 512(g)(2) counter-notification proposal (in the actual DMCA as enacted in the US, counter-notifications cannot take effect immediately, it must stay down for 10 days!
).I hope John Young's creation comes back, hopefully unstoppable, but it is a crushing blow for a long-standing privacy and free speech campaigner that he may have to move the servers out-of-jurisdiction to actually exercise that free speech.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266942</id>
	<title>Let FOIA requests begin</title>
	<author>turtleshadow</author>
	<datestamp>1265117040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If anything cryptome can now hit up US.Gov with numerous FOIAs for any documents relating to this document or relationship of law to Microsoft and get it again. If it is copyrighted, yet given to the US government it should be able to be opened up this way. I wonder how it will come back redacted or not. There may be precident with some national legislation that is copyrighted and transparency in US government.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If anything cryptome can now hit up US.Gov with numerous FOIAs for any documents relating to this document or relationship of law to Microsoft and get it again .
If it is copyrighted , yet given to the US government it should be able to be opened up this way .
I wonder how it will come back redacted or not .
There may be precident with some national legislation that is copyrighted and transparency in US government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If anything cryptome can now hit up US.Gov with numerous FOIAs for any documents relating to this document or relationship of law to Microsoft and get it again.
If it is copyrighted, yet given to the US government it should be able to be opened up this way.
I wonder how it will come back redacted or not.
There may be precident with some national legislation that is copyrighted and transparency in US government.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31269534</id>
	<title>I'm hosting it too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267130820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://fredri.cc/ms-spying.pdf</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //fredri.cc/ms-spying.pdf</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://fredri.cc/ms-spying.pdf</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265682</id>
	<title>Down already</title>
	<author>Spad</author>
	<datestamp>1265109900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like it's been taken offline already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like it 's been taken offline already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like it's been taken offline already.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31270412</id>
	<title>Re:But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>brillow</author>
	<datestamp>1267099740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're being dumb.  Yes, in the US you can't copyright facts (you can in Australia though).  However, if I write a biography of Jeffrey Dahmer, composed entirely of dry dry facts, that doesn't mean you can distribute my book without my permission.  The copyright applies to the arrangement of words, not to their meaning or content.

So yeah, your argument is stupid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're being dumb .
Yes , in the US you ca n't copyright facts ( you can in Australia though ) .
However , if I write a biography of Jeffrey Dahmer , composed entirely of dry dry facts , that does n't mean you can distribute my book without my permission .
The copyright applies to the arrangement of words , not to their meaning or content .
So yeah , your argument is stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're being dumb.
Yes, in the US you can't copyright facts (you can in Australia though).
However, if I write a biography of Jeffrey Dahmer, composed entirely of dry dry facts, that doesn't mean you can distribute my book without my permission.
The copyright applies to the arrangement of words, not to their meaning or content.
So yeah, your argument is stupid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266012</id>
	<title>Re:The smaller they are the easier they fall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265111400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I wonder what this says about the degree of power different entities have when they choose to resist DMCA requests. Would Google's upstream provider(s) ever dare to take Google offline should Google decide not to comply with a particular DMCA request like Cryptome's provider has done?</i></p><p>You're misunderstanding what this part of the DMCA actually does. It allows someone whose copyright was infringed to ask the ISP to identify the infringer, so that you can pursue the infringer in court.</p><p>If the ISP complies with the DMCA process (which also allows the ISP to put the material back up once the alleged infringer has been identified), then the ISP is guaranteed to have no liability. There is no general requirement to take down the material.</p><p>If the ISP doesn't comply with the DMCA process, then the ISP *might* have liability, but even then probably doesn't (IANAL).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what this says about the degree of power different entities have when they choose to resist DMCA requests .
Would Google 's upstream provider ( s ) ever dare to take Google offline should Google decide not to comply with a particular DMCA request like Cryptome 's provider has done ? You 're misunderstanding what this part of the DMCA actually does .
It allows someone whose copyright was infringed to ask the ISP to identify the infringer , so that you can pursue the infringer in court.If the ISP complies with the DMCA process ( which also allows the ISP to put the material back up once the alleged infringer has been identified ) , then the ISP is guaranteed to have no liability .
There is no general requirement to take down the material.If the ISP does n't comply with the DMCA process , then the ISP * might * have liability , but even then probably does n't ( IANAL ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what this says about the degree of power different entities have when they choose to resist DMCA requests.
Would Google's upstream provider(s) ever dare to take Google offline should Google decide not to comply with a particular DMCA request like Cryptome's provider has done?You're misunderstanding what this part of the DMCA actually does.
It allows someone whose copyright was infringed to ask the ISP to identify the infringer, so that you can pursue the infringer in court.If the ISP complies with the DMCA process (which also allows the ISP to put the material back up once the alleged infringer has been identified), then the ISP is guaranteed to have no liability.
There is no general requirement to take down the material.If the ISP doesn't comply with the DMCA process, then the ISP *might* have liability, but even then probably doesn't (IANAL).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266284</id>
	<title>Re:But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265112780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll clear this up for you:</p><p>- If the issue involves the GPL or free software, then copyright is good and must be obeyed.</p><p>- If the issue involves MS, the RIAA, the MPAA, or the DMCA in any way then copyright is horrible and should be abolished.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll clear this up for you : - If the issue involves the GPL or free software , then copyright is good and must be obeyed.- If the issue involves MS , the RIAA , the MPAA , or the DMCA in any way then copyright is horrible and should be abolished .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll clear this up for you:- If the issue involves the GPL or free software, then copyright is good and must be obeyed.- If the issue involves MS, the RIAA, the MPAA, or the DMCA in any way then copyright is horrible and should be abolished.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31268302</id>
	<title>The Microsoft PDF file isn't shocking</title>
	<author>Nimey</author>
	<datestamp>1265129460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Basically it summarizes what data Microsoft collects from its users - a list of IP addresses you've accessed their services from &amp; when, plus any particulars you've provided them, such as name, date of birth, etc.</p><p>Also anything you've uploaded to their servers may be fair game in the event of a subpoena.</p><p>Nothing surprising if you've got much sense, really.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Basically it summarizes what data Microsoft collects from its users - a list of IP addresses you 've accessed their services from &amp; when , plus any particulars you 've provided them , such as name , date of birth , etc.Also anything you 've uploaded to their servers may be fair game in the event of a subpoena.Nothing surprising if you 've got much sense , really .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Basically it summarizes what data Microsoft collects from its users - a list of IP addresses you've accessed their services from &amp; when, plus any particulars you've provided them, such as name, date of birth, etc.Also anything you've uploaded to their servers may be fair game in the event of a subpoena.Nothing surprising if you've got much sense, really.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266406</id>
	<title>Coral Cache Mirror</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265113500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because we shouldn't be dicks and slashdot wikileaks. How about a free CDN alternative folks?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>http://file.wikileaks.org.nyud.net/files/microsoft-spy.pdf</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because we should n't be dicks and slashdot wikileaks .
How about a free CDN alternative folks ?
: ) http : //file.wikileaks.org.nyud.net/files/microsoft-spy.pdf</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because we shouldn't be dicks and slashdot wikileaks.
How about a free CDN alternative folks?
:)http://file.wikileaks.org.nyud.net/files/microsoft-spy.pdf</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266216</id>
	<title>Didn't think this is how the DMCA works</title>
	<author>internic</author>
	<datestamp>1265112540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm confused...I thought the way the DMCA safe harbor provisions work is that in order to be immune, the provider must take down the content when a DMCA notice is received, but if the customer files a counter-notice then they can put it back up and they're off the hook (at least until they get a court order).
So why are they taking it down in this case?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm confused...I thought the way the DMCA safe harbor provisions work is that in order to be immune , the provider must take down the content when a DMCA notice is received , but if the customer files a counter-notice then they can put it back up and they 're off the hook ( at least until they get a court order ) .
So why are they taking it down in this case ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm confused...I thought the way the DMCA safe harbor provisions work is that in order to be immune, the provider must take down the content when a DMCA notice is received, but if the customer files a counter-notice then they can put it back up and they're off the hook (at least until they get a court order).
So why are they taking it down in this case?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265700</id>
	<title>Ballsy</title>
	<author>MonsterTrimble</author>
	<datestamp>1265110020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>For Wikileaks to offer to host Cryptome - especially with thei recent troubles.<br>
<br>
Really, what we need here is a torrent feed with all the latest stuff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For Wikileaks to offer to host Cryptome - especially with thei recent troubles .
Really , what we need here is a torrent feed with all the latest stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For Wikileaks to offer to host Cryptome - especially with thei recent troubles.
Really, what we need here is a torrent feed with all the latest stuff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267150</id>
	<title>Nothing like a good book!</title>
	<author>Chris Tucker</author>
	<datestamp>1265118660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I look forward to reading it. Online, of course!</p><p>I would NEVER think of violating MS' copyright.</p><p>That would be wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I look forward to reading it .
Online , of course ! I would NEVER think of violating MS ' copyright.That would be wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I look forward to reading it.
Online, of course!I would NEVER think of violating MS' copyright.That would be wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266428</id>
	<title>Re:Mirror of the offending document?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265113560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rock, you surely do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rock , you surely do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rock, you surely do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266478</id>
	<title>Is Legal Lock appropriate?</title>
	<author>erroneus</author>
	<datestamp>1265113920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't legal lock supposed to be used in cases where the domain name itself is at issue?  By refusing to allow the name to be transferred, they are actually censoring the content.</p><p>I would be interested to learn if this is an appropriate use of legal lock and if NetSol is entitled to do this.  If not, what recourse could be taken?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't legal lock supposed to be used in cases where the domain name itself is at issue ?
By refusing to allow the name to be transferred , they are actually censoring the content.I would be interested to learn if this is an appropriate use of legal lock and if NetSol is entitled to do this .
If not , what recourse could be taken ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't legal lock supposed to be used in cases where the domain name itself is at issue?
By refusing to allow the name to be transferred, they are actually censoring the content.I would be interested to learn if this is an appropriate use of legal lock and if NetSol is entitled to do this.
If not, what recourse could be taken?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267346</id>
	<title>Re:new mirror</title>
	<author>Foofoobar</author>
	<datestamp>1265120340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah but everyone needs to make sure they get their copy so they can redistribute. Information needs to be free.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah but everyone needs to make sure they get their copy so they can redistribute .
Information needs to be free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah but everyone needs to make sure they get their copy so they can redistribute.
Information needs to be free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267546</id>
	<title>Re:Move on...nothing to see here...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265122200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Usually in cases like that, the chat logs come from the police physically seizing the suspect's computer and forensically examining it, including using high tech data recovery to get back the contents of erased files.  That is done all the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Usually in cases like that , the chat logs come from the police physically seizing the suspect 's computer and forensically examining it , including using high tech data recovery to get back the contents of erased files .
That is done all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usually in cases like that, the chat logs come from the police physically seizing the suspect's computer and forensically examining it, including using high tech data recovery to get back the contents of erased files.
That is done all the time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31269678</id>
	<title>Re:Actually somewhat reassuring</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267089900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would have to agree with you about the document.  I can see why MS would want to keep it out of public view, as it's target audience is law enforcement officials and not the general public.  I would disagree with some posters that it's just a bunch of facts crammed into it which would make it un-copyrightable, as they show the interface they provide to officials for data that they subpoena or have a court order for.  If you ask me, it's better than just giving them the raw log files, because then they would have access to everyone's information not just the person named in the court order.</p><p>If I was them, I would be pissed too, I wouldn't want my confidential documents floating around for everyone to see, especially ones that could potentially unjustifiably have a negative effect on PR.</p><p>As far as networksolutions, if they were in fact the host of the site, then it would be on them to drop the site, although I don't see why they would kill the entire domain, which is an issue.  It's a risk the site took though hosting it through network solutions.  I know if I was hosting a leak type site, I wouldn't host it through netsol, or godaddy or anywhere like that for that very purpose.  There are plenty of registrars/hosts that don't bend to the will of lawyers at the drop of the hat, and use their policies as a selling point.  A little research, and a little more change out of their pocket, and this wouldn't even have been news.  Well, I guess unless you read Slashdot, it probably really isn't that big of news anyway, heh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have to agree with you about the document .
I can see why MS would want to keep it out of public view , as it 's target audience is law enforcement officials and not the general public .
I would disagree with some posters that it 's just a bunch of facts crammed into it which would make it un-copyrightable , as they show the interface they provide to officials for data that they subpoena or have a court order for .
If you ask me , it 's better than just giving them the raw log files , because then they would have access to everyone 's information not just the person named in the court order.If I was them , I would be pissed too , I would n't want my confidential documents floating around for everyone to see , especially ones that could potentially unjustifiably have a negative effect on PR.As far as networksolutions , if they were in fact the host of the site , then it would be on them to drop the site , although I do n't see why they would kill the entire domain , which is an issue .
It 's a risk the site took though hosting it through network solutions .
I know if I was hosting a leak type site , I would n't host it through netsol , or godaddy or anywhere like that for that very purpose .
There are plenty of registrars/hosts that do n't bend to the will of lawyers at the drop of the hat , and use their policies as a selling point .
A little research , and a little more change out of their pocket , and this would n't even have been news .
Well , I guess unless you read Slashdot , it probably really is n't that big of news anyway , heh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have to agree with you about the document.
I can see why MS would want to keep it out of public view, as it's target audience is law enforcement officials and not the general public.
I would disagree with some posters that it's just a bunch of facts crammed into it which would make it un-copyrightable, as they show the interface they provide to officials for data that they subpoena or have a court order for.
If you ask me, it's better than just giving them the raw log files, because then they would have access to everyone's information not just the person named in the court order.If I was them, I would be pissed too, I wouldn't want my confidential documents floating around for everyone to see, especially ones that could potentially unjustifiably have a negative effect on PR.As far as networksolutions, if they were in fact the host of the site, then it would be on them to drop the site, although I don't see why they would kill the entire domain, which is an issue.
It's a risk the site took though hosting it through network solutions.
I know if I was hosting a leak type site, I wouldn't host it through netsol, or godaddy or anywhere like that for that very purpose.
There are plenty of registrars/hosts that don't bend to the will of lawyers at the drop of the hat, and use their policies as a selling point.
A little research, and a little more change out of their pocket, and this wouldn't even have been news.
Well, I guess unless you read Slashdot, it probably really isn't that big of news anyway, heh.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265808</id>
	<title>Re:Mirror of the offending document?</title>
	<author>klingens</author>
	<datestamp>1265110320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The mirror-site cryptome put up is <a href="http://cryptomeorg.siteprotect.net/" title="siteprotect.net" rel="nofollow">http://cryptomeorg.siteprotect.net/</a> [siteprotect.net]<br>However, they took the offending document down and wrote "for the MS Spy Guide send email to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The mirror-site cryptome put up is http : //cryptomeorg.siteprotect.net/ [ siteprotect.net ] However , they took the offending document down and wrote " for the MS Spy Guide send email to ... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The mirror-site cryptome put up is http://cryptomeorg.siteprotect.net/ [siteprotect.net]However, they took the offending document down and wrote "for the MS Spy Guide send email to ..."</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266280</id>
	<title>Re:But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265112780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't misunderstand, you're completely right.  Some scumbag is posting copyrighted material and thinks he's righteous.  It's no different than if a screener gets a copy of a movie before release and posts it online, or if someone steals the design documents for a chip from a semiconductor company and posts it on his blog. It's a copyrighted document, Microsoft owns the copyright, and this little douche has no legal right to distribute it.</p><p>The fact that it's Microsoft and that the document is of little importance has no real bearing on the issue.  I hope they squash this little worm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't misunderstand , you 're completely right .
Some scumbag is posting copyrighted material and thinks he 's righteous .
It 's no different than if a screener gets a copy of a movie before release and posts it online , or if someone steals the design documents for a chip from a semiconductor company and posts it on his blog .
It 's a copyrighted document , Microsoft owns the copyright , and this little douche has no legal right to distribute it.The fact that it 's Microsoft and that the document is of little importance has no real bearing on the issue .
I hope they squash this little worm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't misunderstand, you're completely right.
Some scumbag is posting copyrighted material and thinks he's righteous.
It's no different than if a screener gets a copy of a movie before release and posts it online, or if someone steals the design documents for a chip from a semiconductor company and posts it on his blog.
It's a copyrighted document, Microsoft owns the copyright, and this little douche has no legal right to distribute it.The fact that it's Microsoft and that the document is of little importance has no real bearing on the issue.
I hope they squash this little worm.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266058</id>
	<title>But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>SOdhner</author>
	<datestamp>1265111700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just want to make sure I fully understand the situation.  This is something written by MS and being hosted in its entirety by someone else without permission, right?  So their claim is legally correct and everything, isn't it?  I'm not saying I like Microsoft but I just want to be clear on the details which seem to imply that whether or not this is a *nice* thing to do it at least fits the standards for a DMCA notice.  Please correct me if I've misunderstood.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just want to make sure I fully understand the situation .
This is something written by MS and being hosted in its entirety by someone else without permission , right ?
So their claim is legally correct and everything , is n't it ?
I 'm not saying I like Microsoft but I just want to be clear on the details which seem to imply that whether or not this is a * nice * thing to do it at least fits the standards for a DMCA notice .
Please correct me if I 've misunderstood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just want to make sure I fully understand the situation.
This is something written by MS and being hosted in its entirety by someone else without permission, right?
So their claim is legally correct and everything, isn't it?
I'm not saying I like Microsoft but I just want to be clear on the details which seem to imply that whether or not this is a *nice* thing to do it at least fits the standards for a DMCA notice.
Please correct me if I've misunderstood.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265920</id>
	<title>Did Young file a counter-notice?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265110860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>n/t</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>n/t</tokentext>
<sentencetext>n/t</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266782</id>
	<title>Scary subtext</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265115960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, it's bad that MS is abusing copyright as a secrecy tool, and certainly bad that they're hiding information that should be public, but the subtext supporting all of this is worst of all:</p><p>The subtext that cooperation with law enforcement has become something to be ashamed of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it 's bad that MS is abusing copyright as a secrecy tool , and certainly bad that they 're hiding information that should be public , but the subtext supporting all of this is worst of all : The subtext that cooperation with law enforcement has become something to be ashamed of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it's bad that MS is abusing copyright as a secrecy tool, and certainly bad that they're hiding information that should be public, but the subtext supporting all of this is worst of all:The subtext that cooperation with law enforcement has become something to be ashamed of.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266580</id>
	<title>Re:Already gone?</title>
	<author>dgatwood</author>
	<datestamp>1265114640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It astonishes me that anyone still uses Network Solutions. Their extensive list of blocks for transferring domain services (read: anytime you'd actually want to, you're prevented) is mind-boggling.</p></div></blockquote><p>Agreed.  It astonishes me even more, however, that an organization like this would do so, and doubly so that anyone in their right minds doing anything more than a personal vanity site would use the same provider for both hosting and domain name registration.  That's just asking for a hard-to-fix DMCA shutdown of the site, loss of the site due to the ISP going bankrupt, loss of the domain due to any number of billing disagreements with the ISP that are unrelated to the domain name registration, etc.</p><p>AFAIK, the DMCA does *not* provide for locking the domain registration of a claimed-infringing site, only providing for the takedown of the content.  However, if your ISP decides it is easier to kill your DNS and lock the domain to prevent transferring it than to muck with your server account, you're stuck.  Why?  Because you are using the same provider for hosting and (massively overpriced) domain name registration.  Don't DO that.</p><p>If I were one of these folks, I'd register my domain in a neutral country.  For example, you can register<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.com domains with Gandi.net in France or with NameForName in Russia, or... well, <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/accredited-list.html" title="icann.org">here's a list</a> [icann.org] of ICANN-accredited registrars, most of which support the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.com registry.  Find one in a country that has as few ACTA-like agreements with the U.S. as possible.  Even with the exchange rates as bad as they are, those two I mentioned still charge less than half what NetSol charges for a domain name, with the added security of making it much harder to attack the domain itself with a mere DMCA takedown notice.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It astonishes me that anyone still uses Network Solutions .
Their extensive list of blocks for transferring domain services ( read : anytime you 'd actually want to , you 're prevented ) is mind-boggling.Agreed .
It astonishes me even more , however , that an organization like this would do so , and doubly so that anyone in their right minds doing anything more than a personal vanity site would use the same provider for both hosting and domain name registration .
That 's just asking for a hard-to-fix DMCA shutdown of the site , loss of the site due to the ISP going bankrupt , loss of the domain due to any number of billing disagreements with the ISP that are unrelated to the domain name registration , etc.AFAIK , the DMCA does * not * provide for locking the domain registration of a claimed-infringing site , only providing for the takedown of the content .
However , if your ISP decides it is easier to kill your DNS and lock the domain to prevent transferring it than to muck with your server account , you 're stuck .
Why ? Because you are using the same provider for hosting and ( massively overpriced ) domain name registration .
Do n't DO that.If I were one of these folks , I 'd register my domain in a neutral country .
For example , you can register .com domains with Gandi.net in France or with NameForName in Russia , or... well , here 's a list [ icann.org ] of ICANN-accredited registrars , most of which support the .com registry .
Find one in a country that has as few ACTA-like agreements with the U.S. as possible .
Even with the exchange rates as bad as they are , those two I mentioned still charge less than half what NetSol charges for a domain name , with the added security of making it much harder to attack the domain itself with a mere DMCA takedown notice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It astonishes me that anyone still uses Network Solutions.
Their extensive list of blocks for transferring domain services (read: anytime you'd actually want to, you're prevented) is mind-boggling.Agreed.
It astonishes me even more, however, that an organization like this would do so, and doubly so that anyone in their right minds doing anything more than a personal vanity site would use the same provider for both hosting and domain name registration.
That's just asking for a hard-to-fix DMCA shutdown of the site, loss of the site due to the ISP going bankrupt, loss of the domain due to any number of billing disagreements with the ISP that are unrelated to the domain name registration, etc.AFAIK, the DMCA does *not* provide for locking the domain registration of a claimed-infringing site, only providing for the takedown of the content.
However, if your ISP decides it is easier to kill your DNS and lock the domain to prevent transferring it than to muck with your server account, you're stuck.
Why?  Because you are using the same provider for hosting and (massively overpriced) domain name registration.
Don't DO that.If I were one of these folks, I'd register my domain in a neutral country.
For example, you can register .com domains with Gandi.net in France or with NameForName in Russia, or... well, here's a list [icann.org] of ICANN-accredited registrars, most of which support the .com registry.
Find one in a country that has as few ACTA-like agreements with the U.S. as possible.
Even with the exchange rates as bad as they are, those two I mentioned still charge less than half what NetSol charges for a domain name, with the added security of making it much harder to attack the domain itself with a mere DMCA takedown notice.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31270082</id>
	<title>Re:Mirror of the offending document?</title>
	<author>Nikker</author>
	<datestamp>1267095420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You have to admit it is a bit freaky when you get to the Xbox section of the document.  They have timestamps &amp; IP's for how long you are in the 360 dashboard, how long you played a game and its title, your Xbox serial number, credit card number and anything else linked to the account.  Lucky for me I don't have a 360 but to say there is nothing sensitive might just be your opinion.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have to admit it is a bit freaky when you get to the Xbox section of the document .
They have timestamps &amp; IP 's for how long you are in the 360 dashboard , how long you played a game and its title , your Xbox serial number , credit card number and anything else linked to the account .
Lucky for me I do n't have a 360 but to say there is nothing sensitive might just be your opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have to admit it is a bit freaky when you get to the Xbox section of the document.
They have timestamps &amp; IP's for how long you are in the 360 dashboard, how long you played a game and its title, your Xbox serial number, credit card number and anything else linked to the account.
Lucky for me I don't have a 360 but to say there is nothing sensitive might just be your opinion.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266482</id>
	<title>Actually somewhat reassuring</title>
	<author>slimjim8094</author>
	<datestamp>1265113980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just read the document and it's really kinda reassuring. They lay out exactly what they require in order to disclose exactly what information, and they don't say anything without a subpoena (gets you name/address/email older than 180 days). Anything more interesting than that requires a court order (for address book/friend list/email to-from) or a search warrant (new email).</p><p>Plus, they detail exactly what they do and don't keep - for example, they don't have messenger logs.</p><p>Frankly, I thought they had more info than that. They really keep very little info aside from what they need to actually deliver the service.</p><p>YMMV due to the Patriot act, etc - but I don't see why MSFT would lie in a confidential document</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just read the document and it 's really kinda reassuring .
They lay out exactly what they require in order to disclose exactly what information , and they do n't say anything without a subpoena ( gets you name/address/email older than 180 days ) .
Anything more interesting than that requires a court order ( for address book/friend list/email to-from ) or a search warrant ( new email ) .Plus , they detail exactly what they do and do n't keep - for example , they do n't have messenger logs.Frankly , I thought they had more info than that .
They really keep very little info aside from what they need to actually deliver the service.YMMV due to the Patriot act , etc - but I do n't see why MSFT would lie in a confidential document</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just read the document and it's really kinda reassuring.
They lay out exactly what they require in order to disclose exactly what information, and they don't say anything without a subpoena (gets you name/address/email older than 180 days).
Anything more interesting than that requires a court order (for address book/friend list/email to-from) or a search warrant (new email).Plus, they detail exactly what they do and don't keep - for example, they don't have messenger logs.Frankly, I thought they had more info than that.
They really keep very little info aside from what they need to actually deliver the service.YMMV due to the Patriot act, etc - but I don't see why MSFT would lie in a confidential document</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266200</id>
	<title>summary of document</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265112420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Document is a 22 page pdf, about 1.7 MB, size is partly due to a few semi-useful diagrams from some PHB's powerpoint presentation.  It's not anything super technical.</p><p>sha1 checksum is 15d4c4c7ea3aa93e128bb5756deb72f4e22926f3.</p><p>A quick glance didn't reveal anything terribly surprising in the document. It discusses things like how long they retain stuff like user IP addresses for hotmail (answer: 60 days). Also there is a special phone number for emergency requests like those dealing with murder threats. Regular old subpoenas are supposed to go through a non-emergency process.</p><p>Except for a few things like internal Microsoft phone numbers, I didn't see anything in the document that had much reason to be confidential. Stuff like the 60 day retention policy really belong in the published privacy statement (I don't know if it's already there).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Document is a 22 page pdf , about 1.7 MB , size is partly due to a few semi-useful diagrams from some PHB 's powerpoint presentation .
It 's not anything super technical.sha1 checksum is 15d4c4c7ea3aa93e128bb5756deb72f4e22926f3.A quick glance did n't reveal anything terribly surprising in the document .
It discusses things like how long they retain stuff like user IP addresses for hotmail ( answer : 60 days ) .
Also there is a special phone number for emergency requests like those dealing with murder threats .
Regular old subpoenas are supposed to go through a non-emergency process.Except for a few things like internal Microsoft phone numbers , I did n't see anything in the document that had much reason to be confidential .
Stuff like the 60 day retention policy really belong in the published privacy statement ( I do n't know if it 's already there ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Document is a 22 page pdf, about 1.7 MB, size is partly due to a few semi-useful diagrams from some PHB's powerpoint presentation.
It's not anything super technical.sha1 checksum is 15d4c4c7ea3aa93e128bb5756deb72f4e22926f3.A quick glance didn't reveal anything terribly surprising in the document.
It discusses things like how long they retain stuff like user IP addresses for hotmail (answer: 60 days).
Also there is a special phone number for emergency requests like those dealing with murder threats.
Regular old subpoenas are supposed to go through a non-emergency process.Except for a few things like internal Microsoft phone numbers, I didn't see anything in the document that had much reason to be confidential.
Stuff like the 60 day retention policy really belong in the published privacy statement (I don't know if it's already there).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266614</id>
	<title>Oooo BABY BA-BE, BABY BA-BE ))ooo BABY BA-BE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265114880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ba-ba-baby Ooooo  PUSH IT Push it REAL GOOD !!</p><p>Eat Yellow Snnow Ballmer !!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ba-ba-baby Ooooo PUSH IT Push it REAL GOOD !
! Eat Yellow Snnow Ballmer !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ba-ba-baby Ooooo  PUSH IT Push it REAL GOOD !
!Eat Yellow Snnow Ballmer !
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266650</id>
	<title>Read and learn it, or sleep with the fishes.</title>
	<author>xactuary</author>
	<datestamp>1265115180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Global Criminal Compliance Handbook?<br> <br>It helps global criminals comply with all those pesky, but obviously important, inter-syndicate deals, capiche?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Global Criminal Compliance Handbook ?
It helps global criminals comply with all those pesky , but obviously important , inter-syndicate deals , capiche ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Global Criminal Compliance Handbook?
It helps global criminals comply with all those pesky, but obviously important, inter-syndicate deals, capiche?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31268786</id>
	<title>Who do you want to tap today?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265134740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All taking down cryptome for a few days does it make a hell of a lot more people interested in the Microsoft "spy" document which I must say is rather dry and unimpressive on its own merit.</p><p>By sending DMCA notice MS:</p><p>1. Gets orders of magnitude more people interested in their stupid little document and thus more people will ultimate download and read it.</p><p>2. Attract more people to dislike or further dislike MS for taking down cryptome of all sites.</p><p>3. Attract more people to dislike MS for abusing crappy lobbyist inspired legislation to prevent people from knowing information that they should have a right to know anyway WRT data retention and LEA procedures.</p><p>MS wins nothing and makes no money by doing this.  They only hurt themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All taking down cryptome for a few days does it make a hell of a lot more people interested in the Microsoft " spy " document which I must say is rather dry and unimpressive on its own merit.By sending DMCA notice MS : 1 .
Gets orders of magnitude more people interested in their stupid little document and thus more people will ultimate download and read it.2 .
Attract more people to dislike or further dislike MS for taking down cryptome of all sites.3 .
Attract more people to dislike MS for abusing crappy lobbyist inspired legislation to prevent people from knowing information that they should have a right to know anyway WRT data retention and LEA procedures.MS wins nothing and makes no money by doing this .
They only hurt themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All taking down cryptome for a few days does it make a hell of a lot more people interested in the Microsoft "spy" document which I must say is rather dry and unimpressive on its own merit.By sending DMCA notice MS:1.
Gets orders of magnitude more people interested in their stupid little document and thus more people will ultimate download and read it.2.
Attract more people to dislike or further dislike MS for taking down cryptome of all sites.3.
Attract more people to dislike MS for abusing crappy lobbyist inspired legislation to prevent people from knowing information that they should have a right to know anyway WRT data retention and LEA procedures.MS wins nothing and makes no money by doing this.
They only hurt themselves.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265712</id>
	<title>Re:Already gone?</title>
	<author>TJamieson</author>
	<datestamp>1265110020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, the host already caved. Wikileaks is already mirroring the document; I don't want to hotlink the PDF and melt their servers<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , the host already caved .
Wikileaks is already mirroring the document ; I do n't want to hotlink the PDF and melt their servers : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, the host already caved.
Wikileaks is already mirroring the document; I don't want to hotlink the PDF and melt their servers :)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266972</id>
	<title>Twisted Irony</title>
	<author>Phizzle</author>
	<datestamp>1265117340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft is able to narc on you better if you are a Premium customer, so the more you pay them the more they compromise your privacy!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft is able to narc on you better if you are a Premium customer , so the more you pay them the more they compromise your privacy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft is able to narc on you better if you are a Premium customer, so the more you pay them the more they compromise your privacy!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31271094</id>
	<title>Re:The smaller they are the easier they fall</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1267107300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Afaict becoming a tier-1 provider (that is a provider who doesn't have to buy "transit" to get to the whole internet) requires more than just private datacenter to datacenter links. Afaict it also requires sneaky tactics and a gameplan for how to use those tactics from the start.</p><p>That is because becoming a tier-1 provider requires persuading all the existing tier-1 providers to peer with you. But of course a provider is likeky to be reluctant to peer with someone they are currently selling transit to....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Afaict becoming a tier-1 provider ( that is a provider who does n't have to buy " transit " to get to the whole internet ) requires more than just private datacenter to datacenter links .
Afaict it also requires sneaky tactics and a gameplan for how to use those tactics from the start.That is because becoming a tier-1 provider requires persuading all the existing tier-1 providers to peer with you .
But of course a provider is likeky to be reluctant to peer with someone they are currently selling transit to... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Afaict becoming a tier-1 provider (that is a provider who doesn't have to buy "transit" to get to the whole internet) requires more than just private datacenter to datacenter links.
Afaict it also requires sneaky tactics and a gameplan for how to use those tactics from the start.That is because becoming a tier-1 provider requires persuading all the existing tier-1 providers to peer with you.
But of course a provider is likeky to be reluctant to peer with someone they are currently selling transit to....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265802</id>
	<title>Re:Ballsy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265110320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality', which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to paedophilia.</p><p>What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:</p><ul><li> <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Linus Torvalds</a> [microsoft.com] is an anagram of <b>slit anus or VD 'L,'</b> clearly referring to himself by the first initial.</li><li> <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20060212034956/http://www.geocities.com/stallmanus/" title="archive.org" rel="nofollow">Richard M. Stallman</a> [archive.org], spokespervert for the <b>G</b>aysex's <b>N</b>ot <b>U</b>nusual 'movement' is an anagram of <b>mans cram thrill ad.</b> </li><li> <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Alan Cox</a> [microsoft.com] is <i>barely</i> an anagram of <b>anal cox</b> which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.</li></ul><p>I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] propaganda diatribe <i>The Cathedral and the Bizarre,</i> is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. <i>Update:</i> Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for <b>secondary rim</b> and <b>cord in my arse.</b> It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.</p><p> <i>Update the Second:</i> It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Fetchmail</a> [microsoft.com], which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'</p><p>As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was <a href="http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/05/26/free\_love/index.html" title="salon.com" rel="nofollow">actually quoted</a> [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.</p><p>And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming <a href="http://www.comp-u-geek.net/" title="comp-u-geek.net" rel="nofollow">homo</a> [comp-u-geek.net] <a href="http://vagina.rotten.com/fecaljapan/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">slut</a> [rotten.com]!</p><p>Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] perversion of <a href="http://slashdot.org/features/99/07/22/173256.shtml" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">corrupting the innocence of young children</a> [slashdot.org]. To quote from the article linked:</p><p>'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'</p><p>Is this why you were touching your <a href="http://smoke.rotten.com/bird/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">penis</a> [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?</p><p>We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' <i>Is there any more doubt?</i> For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.</p><p>Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.</p><p>In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The <a href="http://www.redhat.com/" title="redhat.com" rel="nofollow">Slackware</a> [redhat.com] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of <b>claw arse</b>, a reference to the <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] practise of anal fisting. The <a href="http://www.slackware.com/" title="slackware.com" rel="nofollow">Mandrake</a> [slackware.com] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for <b>dark amen</b> and <b>ram naked,</b> which is what they do.</p><p>Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexuals</a> [goatse.fr] preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is <a href="http://www.mandrake.com/" title="mandrake.com" rel="nofollow">Debian,</a> [mandrake.com] an anagram of <b>in a bed,</b> which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male <a href="http://smoke.rotten.com/bird/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">penis</a> [rotten.com], glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.</p><p>And <a href="http://www.debian.org/" title="debian.org" rel="nofollow">Red Hat</a> [debian.org] is secret <a href="http://www.comp-u-geek.net/" title="comp-u-geek.net" rel="nofollow">homo</a> [comp-u-geek.net] slang for the tip of a <a href="http://smoke.rotten.com/bird/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">penis</a> [rotten.com] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.</p><p>The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to <a href="http://www.comp-u-geek.net/" title="comp-u-geek.net" rel="nofollow">mount each other</a> [comp-u-geek.net] automatically.</p><p>The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously<tt>/anus</tt>, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no<tt>/opt</tt> mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.</p><p>More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love <tt>`man`</tt>, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out <tt>`man`</tt>. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.</p><p>Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherent <i>gayness</i>. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual <a href="http://www.amiga.com/" title="amiga.com" rel="nofollow">Windows</a> [amiga.com] users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: <i>Faggot Anal Quest:</i> the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!</p><p>Even the title '<a href="http://www.geekizoid.com/" title="geekizoid.com" rel="nofollow">Slashdot</a> [geekizoid.com]' originally referred to a <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] practice. <a href="http://www.kuro5hin.org/" title="kuro5hin.org" rel="nofollow">Slashdot</a> [kuro5hin.org] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexuals</a> [goatse.fr] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, <a href="http://www.eff.org/" title="eff.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.eff.org/</a> [eff.org].</p><p>The editors of <a href="http://www.slashduh.org/" title="slashduh.org" rel="nofollow">Slashdot</a> [slashduh.org] also have <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with <a href="http://pboy.com/shteatrfrk/images01/" title="pboy.com" rel="nofollow">excrement</a> [pboy.com]. (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of <a href="http://smoke.rotten.com/bird/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">penis</a> [rotten.com] discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, <a href="http://notslashdot.org/" title="notslashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Slashdot</a> [notslashdot.org] runs on <i>Apache!</i> </p><p>The <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/iis/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Apache</a> [microsoft.com] server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.</p><p>And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.</p><p>To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And <a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">BeOS</a> [apple.com] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'</p><p> <b>FEEDBACK</b> </p><blockquote><div><p> <i>What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to <i>warn</i> them of the impending <a href="http://www.comp-u-geek.net/" title="comp-u-geek.net" rel="nofollow">homo</a> [comp-u-geek.net]-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you.</i> -- <a href="http://slashdot.org/users.pl?nick=mighty\%20jebus" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">mighty jebus</a> [slashdot.org], Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's <a href="http://www.happy.bodysnatchers.co.uk/deadcunt/" title="bodysnatchers.co.uk" rel="nofollow">vagina</a> [bodysnatchers.co.uk] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the <a href="http://www.hitler.org/" title="hitler.org" rel="nofollow">unknown liberator</a> [hitler.org].</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of <i>Baywatch</i> until the very mention of <a href="http://fotm.rotten.com/fotm/vertical.html" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">Pamela Anderson</a> [rotten.com] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual <a href="http://www.zillabunny.com/express/" title="zillabunny.com" rel="nofollow">jism</a> [zillabunny.com].</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?)</i> -- <a href="http://slashdot.org/users.pl?nick=double\_h" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">double\_h</a> [slashdot.org], Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the <a href="http://www.xbox.com/" title="xbox.com" rel="nofollow">PS2</a> [xbox.com] sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, <a href="http://www.linux.com/" title="linux.com" rel="nofollow">NT</a> [linux.com] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a <i>sin</i> in the eyes of the <a href="http://www.atheism.org/" title="atheism.org" rel="nofollow">Catholic church</a> [atheism.org]. Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.</p><p>Secondly, this message is for <i>every</i> man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by <i> <a href="http://www.stileproject.com/" title="stileproject.com" rel="nofollow">a Black Man</a> [stileproject.com] </i>. Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them.</i> -- <a href="http://slashdot.org/users.pl?nick=phee" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">phee</a> [slashdot.org], Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that <a href="http://www.python.org/" title="python.org" rel="nofollow">Perl</a> [python.org] (standing for <b>P</b>ansies <b>E</b>ntering <b>R</b>ectums <b>L</b>ocally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'</p><p>One scary thing about <a href="http://java.sun.com/" title="sun.com" rel="nofollow">Perl</a> [sun.com] is that it contains hidden <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] messages. Take the following code: <tt>LWP::Simple</tt> -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: <i>There are two colons next to each other!</i> As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'</p><p>And <a href="http://www.perl.org/" title="perl.org" rel="nofollow">PHP</a> [perl.org] stands for <b>P</b>erverted <b>H</b>omosexual <b>P</b>enetration. Didn't you know?</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa.</i> -- <a href="http://slashdot.org/users.pl?nick=Eimernase" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Eimernase</a> [slashdot.org], Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I <i>do</i> know that <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p> <i>*sniff*</i> That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the <a href="http://www.atheism.org/" title="atheism.org" rel="nofollow">Good Lord</a> [atheism.org]'s work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.</p><p>However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)</p><p>In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (<b>L</b>ove of <b>A</b>nal <b>N</b>aughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (<i>i.e.,</i> kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality!</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in <a href="http://slashdot.org/metamod.pl" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Metamoderation</a> [slashdot.org]. Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???</p><p>If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived <i>forever!</i> Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>I am compelled to document the foulness and <a href="http://www.catholic.net/" title="catholic.net" rel="nofollow">carnal depravity</a> [catholic.net] that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?!</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>I sincerely hope you're <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20050301194841/http://www.geocities.com/signal\_sig/petri.html" title="archive.org" rel="nofollow">Natalie Portman</a> [archive.org].</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>What the <i>fuck?</i> </p><blockquote><div><p> <i>I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing <a href="http://www.comp-u-geek.net/" title="comp-u-geek.net" rel="nofollow">homos</a> [comp-u-geek.net] tend to be full of. Thank you again.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Well bugger me!</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Fuck <i>right</i> off!</p><p>IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not <a href="http://www.linux.org/" title="linux.org" rel="nofollow">HURD</a> [linux.org], which is an acronym for '<b>H</b>uge <b>U</b>nclean <b>R</b>ectal <b>D</b>ilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the <a href="http://www.icopyright.com/" title="icopyright.com" rel="nofollow">Public Domain</a> [icopyright.com]. You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the <a href="http://www.publicsource.apple.com/apsl/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">GPL</a> [apple.com] (<b>G</b>ay <b>P</b>enetration <b>L</b>icense) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest <a href="http://vagina.rotten.com/fecaljapan/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">feces-encrusted</a> [rotten.com] cock. I would have put this up on <a href="http://www.adultmember.com/freshmeat/" title="adultmember.com" rel="nofollow">Freshmeat</a> [adultmember.com], but that name is <i>known</i> to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.</p><p>Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.</p><p> <b>Contributors:</b> (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double\_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.</p><p> <b>Current changes:</b> This version sent to <a href="http://slashdot.org/~Free\%20WIPO/" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow"> <em>FreeWIPO</em> </a> [slashdot.org] by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?</p><p> <b>Previous changes:</b> Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding <tt>`man`</tt> and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.</p><p> <b>ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... <i>Up your ass!</i> </b> </p><p>LOL - captcha "glorying"</p></div>
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<tokenext>It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality ' , which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to paedophilia.What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux 's most outspoken advocates : Linus Torvalds [ microsoft.com ] is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L, ' clearly referring to himself by the first initial .
Richard M. Stallman [ archive.org ] , spokespervert for the Gaysex 's Not Unusual 'movement ' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad .
Alan Cox [ microsoft.com ] is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.I 'm sure that Eric S. Raymond , composer of the satanic homosexual [ goatse.fr ] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre , is probably an anagram of something queer , but we do n't need to look that far as we know he 's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy 's rectum .
Update : Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse .
It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer .
Update the Second : It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [ microsoft.com ] , which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male ' -- a disgusting practise .
For those not in the know , 'felching ' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other 's rectum .
In fact , it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail , turning it into 'e-male .
'As far as Richard 'Master ' Stallman goes , that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [ salon.com ] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following : 'I 've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance, ' he says .
'It 's about being able to question conventional wisdom, ' he asserts .
'I believe in love , but not monogamy, ' he says plainly.And this is n't a made up troll bullshit either !
He actually stated this tripe , which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he 's a flaming homo [ comp-u-geek.net ] slut [ rotten.com ] ! Speaking about 'flaming, ' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot 's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz .
Although an obvious deviant anagram can not be found from his name , he has already confessed , nay boasted of the homosexual [ goatse.fr ] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [ slashdot.org ] .
To quote from the article linked : 'I 've got a rare kidney disease, ' I told her .
'I have to go to the bathroom a lot .
You can come with me if you want , but it takes a while .
Is that okay with you ?
Do you want a note from my doctor ?
'Is this why you were touching your penis [ rotten.com ] in the cinema , Jon ?
And letting the other boys touch it too ? We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot 's resident Gasbag .
' Is there any more doubt ?
For those fortunate few who are n't aware of the list of homosexual [ goatse.fr ] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code, ' a 'Gasbag ' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra ( or to use the common parlance , 'piss-pipe ' ) , then his homosexual [ goatse.fr ] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum .
This is , of course , when he 's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.Sick , disgusting antichristian perverts , the lot of them.In addition , many of the Linux distributions ( a 'distribution ' is the most common way to spread the faggots ' wares ) are run by faggot groups .
The Slackware [ redhat.com ] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear ' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes .
Furthermore , Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse , a reference to the homosexual [ goatse.fr ] practise of anal fisting .
The Mandrake [ slackware.com ] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists , and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator .
It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked , which is what they do.Another 'distro, ' ( abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco, ' which is where homosexuals [ goatse.fr ] preyed on young boys in the 1970s ) , is Debian , [ mandrake.com ] an anagram of in a bed , which could be considered innocent enough ( after all , a bed is both where we sleep and pray ) , until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares .
'Woody ' is obvious enough , being a term for the erect male penis [ rotten.com ] , glistening with pre-cum .
But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato ' that they use .
This filthy term , again found in the secret homosexual [ goatse.fr ] 'Sauce Code, ' refers to the solo homosexual [ goatse.fr ] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag , shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus , then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid .
The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato ' up his own rectum , squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.And Red Hat [ debian.org ] is secret homo [ comp-u-geek.net ] slang for the tip of a penis [ rotten.com ] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry !
For example , the 'supermount ' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration , which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland .
'Automount ' is used , on the other hand , because Linux users are all fat and gay , and need to mount each other [ comp-u-geek.net ] automatically.The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points .
' These are , plainly speaking , the different points of penetration .
The main one is obviously/anus , but there are others .
Militant fags even say 'there is no/opt mount point ' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love ` man ` , even going so far as to say that all new Linux users ( who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda ) should try out ` man ` .
In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.Other areas of the system also show Linux 's inherent gayness .
For example , people are often told of the 'FAQ, ' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows [ amiga.com ] users know what this actually means .
The answer is shocking : Faggot Anal Quest : the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags ! Even the title 'Slashdot [ geekizoid.com ] ' originally referred to a homosexual [ goatse.fr ] practice .
Slashdot [ kuro5hin.org ] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting .
The Slashbots , of course are those super-zealous homosexuals [ goatse.fr ] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses , as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users , the depraved work of Satan , http : //www.eff.org/ [ eff.org ] .The editors of Slashdot [ slashduh.org ] also have homosexual [ goatse.fr ] names : 'Hemos ' is obvious in itself , being one vowel away from 'Homos .
' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco ' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco, ' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement [ pboy.com ] .
( The best form of lubrication , they insist .
) Sometimes , these 'Taco Commodes ' have special 'Salsa Sauce ' ( blood from a ruptured rectum ) and 'Cheese ' ( rancid flakes of penis [ rotten.com ] discharge ) toppings .
And to make it even worse , Slashdot [ notslashdot.org ] runs on Apache !
The Apache [ microsoft.com ] server , whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS , is named after homosexual [ goatse.fr ] activity -- as everyone knows , popular faggot band , the Village People , featured an Apache Indian , and it is for him that this gay program is named.And that 's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.To summarise : Linux is gay .
'Slash -- Dot ' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy 's scrotum and anus .
And BeOS [ apple.com ] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers .
' FEEDBACK What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do .
I 'm scared I actually read this whole thing .
I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people .
This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this .
And actually take the time to do it too .
Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it 's early .
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotWell , the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code ' once .
Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer ( and have n't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel ' ?
) , this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race , as well as a few of the major animal species .
It has shocked and disturbed me , to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo [ comp-u-geek.net ] -calypse which threatens to engulf our planet .
You must work for the government .
Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot wo n't be able to continue or something , due to legal woes .
If i ever see your ugly face , i 'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass , after it 's nice and hot , to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours .
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotDoes n't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it 's way up my most sacred of sphincters ?
You 're beyond help , my friend , as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man .
Are you sure you 're not Eric Raymond ?
The government , being populated by limp-wristed liberals , could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual [ goatse.fr ] child molesting Linux advocacy .
Hell , they 've given NAMBLA free reign for years !
you really should post this logged in .
i wish i could remember jebus 's password , cuz i 'd give it to you .
-- mighty jebus [ slashdot.org ] , SlashdotThank you for your kind words of support .
However , this document shall only ever be posted anonymously .
This is because the 'Open Sauce ' movement is a sham , proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom .
I speak for the common man .
For any man who prefers the warm , enveloping velvet folds of a woman 's vagina [ bodysnatchers.co.uk ] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child .
These men , being common , decent folk , do n't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture .
I am the unknown liberator [ hitler.org ] .
ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotWe should n't hate them , we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society .
This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson [ rotten.com ] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism [ zillabunny.com ] .
Actually , that 's not at all how scrotal inflation works .
I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum .
I 've never tried this , but you can read how to do it safely in case you 're interested .
( Before you moderate this down , ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation , or people who pay $ 1000 + for a game console ?
) -- double \ _h [ slashdot.org ] , SlashdotWell , it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code ' is riddled with bugs that need fixing .
( The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me .
) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this , with their queer slogan : 'Given enough arms , all rectums are shallow .
' And anyway , the PS2 [ xbox.com ] sucks major cock and is n't worth the money .
Intellivision forever !
dude did u used to post on msnbc 's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotFor one thing , whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing , NT [ linux.com ] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film , enjoying the restriction enforced onto them .
Remember , a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church [ atheism.org ] .
Clearly , the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor .
All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems .
It is the only route to salvation.Secondly , this message is for every man .
Computers know no colour .
Not only that , but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man [ stileproject.com ] .
Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher .
And do n't forget that slashdot was written in Perl , which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace ' for comfort.... oh wait ; that 's something all you heterosexuals do.... I ca n't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them .
-- phee [ slashdot.org ] , SlashdotAlthough there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman 's breasts , squirting one 's load up towards her neck and chin area , it should be noted that Perl [ python.org ] ( standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally ) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle, ' 'Pearl Nosering, ' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema .
'One scary thing about Perl [ sun.com ] is that it contains hidden homosexual [ goatse.fr ] messages .
Take the following code : LWP : : Simple -- It looks innocuous enough , does n't it ?
But look at the line closely : There are two colons next to each other !
As Larry 'Balls to the ' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation , Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it 's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing, ' whereby two homosexual [ goatse.fr ] queers spread their buttocks wide , pressing their filthy torn sphincters together .
They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone .
This is also referred to in programming 'circles ' as 'Parameter Passing .
'And PHP [ perl.org ] stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration .
Did n't you know ?
Thank you for your valuable input on this .
I am sure you will be never forgotten .
BTW : Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars ?
Mars rulaa .
-- Eimernase [ slashdot.org ] , SlashdotWell , I do n't know about terraforming Mars , but I do know that homosexual [ goatse.fr ] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years .
That 's inspiring .
Keep up the good work , AC .
May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community , and make it pure again .
Yours , Cerberus .
-- Anonymous Coward , Slashdot * sniff * That brings a tear to my eye .
Thank you once more for your kind support .
I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord [ atheism.org ] 's work , but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.However , I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus ' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot .
It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos ' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing , in intimate , exacting detail , how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals ; be they domesticated , wild , or mythical .
Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide , treating it as an 'extension ' to the Linux 'Sauce Code, ' for the sake of 'interoperability .
' ( The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind .
) In fact , sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties , ( Love of Anal Naughtiness , needless to say .
) , wherein they entice a stray dog , known as the 'Samba Mount, ' into their homes .
Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect , throbbing , uncircumcised members , conkers-deep , into the rectum , mouth , and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal .
Eventually , the 'Samba Mount ' collapses due to 'overload, ' and needs to be 'rebooted .
' ( i.e. , kicked out into the street , and left to fend for itself .
) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime ' in such situations .
Inspiring stuff !
If only all trolls were this quality !
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotIf only indeed .
You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible .
I recommend ' + 1 , Underrated, ' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation [ slashdot.org ] .
Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture .
Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender ' ? ?
? If we can get just one of these postings up to at least ' + 1, ' then it will be archived forever !
Others will learn of our struggle , and join with us in our battle for freedom !
It 's pathetic you 've spent so much time writing this .
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotI am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity [ catholic.net ] that is Linux , in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow .
It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment .
As with any great open-source project , you need someone asking this question , so I 'll do it .
When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready ? ! ? !
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotI could make an arrogant , childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0 , I wo n't release it for another 24 hours, ' but the truth of the matter is that I 'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two, ' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I 've even had chance to wipe .
I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel , you sexy hunk , you .
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotI sincerely hope you 're Natalie Portman [ archive.org ] .
Dude , nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading .
Try to distill the message , whatever it was , and maybe I 'll read it .
As it is , I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time .
10 seconds is all its gon na take M $ to whoop Linux 's ass .
Vigilence is the price of Free ( as in libre -- from the fine , frou frou French language ) Software .
Hack on fellow geeks , and remember : Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins .
Those godless , oil drench , bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons ( another fine , fine French word ) and eat that .
Anyway , try to keep your message focused and concise .
For concision is the soul of derision .
Way. -- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotWhat the fuck ?
I 've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I 'm impressed .
In particular , I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos [ comp-u-geek.net ] tend to be full of .
Thank you again .
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotWell bugger me !
ooooh honey .
how insecure are you ! ! !
wann a little massage from deare bruci .
love you -- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotFuck right off ! IMPORTANT : This message needs to be heard ( Not HURD [ linux.org ] , which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator ' ) across the whole community , so it has been released into the Public Domain [ icopyright.com ] .
You know , that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL [ apple.com ] ( Gay Penetration License ) that is no more than an excuse to see who 's got the biggest feces-encrusted [ rotten.com ] cock .
I would have put this up on Freshmeat [ adultmember.com ] , but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.Come to think of it , the whole concept of 'Source Control ' unnerves me , because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control, ' which is a description of the homosexual [ goatse.fr ] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation , thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver 's scrotum .
And 'Open Sauce ' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later .
Obviously , 'Closed Sauce ' is the only Christian thing to do , as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about .
Contributors : ( although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit ' that open 'sauce ' development has become ) Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , phee , Anonymous Coward , mighty jebus , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , double \ _h , Anonymous Coward , Eimernase , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward .
Further contributions are welcome .
Current changes : This version sent to FreeWIPO [ slashdot.org ] by 'Bring BackATV ' as plain text .
Reformatted everything , added all links back in ( that we could match from the previous version ) , many new ones ( Slashbot bait links ) .
Even more spelling fixed .
Who wrote this thing , CmdrTaco himself ?
Previous changes : Yet more changes added .
Spelling fixed .
Feedback added .
Explanation of 'distro ' system .
'Mount Point ' syntax described .
More filth regarding ` man ` and Slashdot .
Yet more fucking spelling fixed .
'Fetchmail ' uncovered further .
More Slashbot baiting .
Apache exposed .
Distribution licence at foot of document .
ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... Up your ass !
LOL - captcha " glorying "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality', which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to paedophilia.What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates: Linus Torvalds [microsoft.com] is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
Richard M. Stallman [archive.org], spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
Alan Cox [microsoft.com] is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [goatse.fr] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum.
Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse.
It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.
Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [microsoft.com], which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise.
For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum.
In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.
'As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says.
'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts.
'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either!
He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo [comp-u-geek.net] slut [rotten.com]!Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz.
Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [goatse.fr] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [slashdot.org].
To quote from the article linked:'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her.
'I have to go to the bathroom a lot.
You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while.
Is that okay with you?
Do you want a note from my doctor?
'Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon?
And letting the other boys touch it too?We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.
' Is there any more doubt?
For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [goatse.fr] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual [goatse.fr] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum.
This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups.
The Slackware [redhat.com] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes.
Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual [goatse.fr] practise of anal fisting.
The Mandrake [slackware.com] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator.
It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals [goatse.fr] preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, [mandrake.com] an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares.
'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis [rotten.com], glistening with pre-cum.
But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use.
This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual [goatse.fr] 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual [goatse.fr] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid.
The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.And Red Hat [debian.org] is secret homo [comp-u-geek.net] slang for the tip of a penis [rotten.com] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry!
For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland.
'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other [comp-u-geek.net] automatically.The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.
' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration.
The main one is obviously/anus, but there are others.
Militant fags even say 'there is no/opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`.
In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherent gayness.
For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows [amiga.com] users know what this actually means.
The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!Even the title 'Slashdot [geekizoid.com]' originally referred to a homosexual [goatse.fr] practice.
Slashdot [kuro5hin.org] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting.
The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals [goatse.fr] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/ [eff.org].The editors of Slashdot [slashduh.org] also have homosexual [goatse.fr] names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.
' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement [pboy.com].
(The best form of lubrication, they insist.
) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis [rotten.com] discharge) toppings.
And to make it even worse, Slashdot [notslashdot.org] runs on Apache!
The Apache [microsoft.com] server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual [goatse.fr] activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.To summarise: Linux is gay.
'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus.
And BeOS [apple.com] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.
' FEEDBACK  What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do.
I'm scared I actually read this whole thing.
I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people.
This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this.
And actually take the time to do it too.
Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early.
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotWell, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once.
Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?
), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species.
It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo [comp-u-geek.net]-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.
You must work for the government.
Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes.
If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours.
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotDoesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters?
You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man.
Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond?
The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual [goatse.fr] child molesting Linux advocacy.
Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!
you really should post this logged in.
i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you.
-- mighty jebus [slashdot.org], SlashdotThank you for your kind words of support.
However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously.
This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom.
I speak for the common man.
For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina [bodysnatchers.co.uk] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child.
These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture.
I am the unknown liberator [hitler.org].
ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotWe shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society.
This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson [rotten.com] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism [zillabunny.com].
Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works.
I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum.
I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested.
(Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?
) -- double\_h [slashdot.org], SlashdotWell, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing.
(The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.
) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.
' And anyway, the PS2 [xbox.com] sucks major cock and isn't worth the money.
Intellivision forever!
dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotFor one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT [linux.com] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them.
Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church [atheism.org].
Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor.
All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems.
It is the only route to salvation.Secondly, this message is for every man.
Computers know no colour.
Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by  a Black Man [stileproject.com] .
Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.
And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them.
-- phee [slashdot.org], SlashdotAlthough there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl [python.org] (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.
'One scary thing about Perl [sun.com] is that it contains hidden homosexual [goatse.fr] messages.
Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it?
But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other!
As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual [goatse.fr] queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together.
They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone.
This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.
'And PHP [perl.org] stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration.
Didn't you know?
Thank you for your valuable input on this.
I am sure you will be never forgotten.
BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars?
Mars rulaa.
-- Eimernase [slashdot.org], SlashdotWell, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual [goatse.fr] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.
That's inspiring.
Keep up the good work, AC.
May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again.
Yours, Cerberus.
-- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot *sniff* That brings a tear to my eye.
Thank you once more for your kind support.
I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord [atheism.org]'s work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot.
It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical.
Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.
' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.
)In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.
), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes.
Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal.
Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.
' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.
) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.
Inspiring stuff!
If only all trolls were this quality!
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotIf only indeed.
You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible.
I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation [slashdot.org].
Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture.
Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'??
?If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever!
Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!
It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this.
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotI am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity [catholic.net] that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow.
It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.
As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it.
When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?!
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotI could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.
I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you.
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotI sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman [archive.org].
Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading.
Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it.
As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time.
10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass.
Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software.
Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins.
Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that.
Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise.
For concision is the soul of derision.
Way. -- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotWhat the fuck?
I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed.
In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos [comp-u-geek.net] tend to be full of.
Thank you again.
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotWell bugger me!
ooooh honey.
how insecure are you!!!
wann a little massage from deare bruci.
love you -- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotFuck right off!IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD [linux.org], which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain [icopyright.com].
You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL [apple.com] (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted [rotten.com] cock.
I would have put this up on Freshmeat [adultmember.com], but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual [goatse.fr] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum.
And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later.
Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.
Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double\_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward.
Further contributions are welcome.
Current changes: This version sent to  FreeWIPO  [slashdot.org] by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text.
Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links).
Even more spelling fixed.
Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?
Previous changes: Yet more changes added.
Spelling fixed.
Feedback added.
Explanation of 'distro' system.
'Mount Point' syntax described.
More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot.
Yet more fucking spelling fixed.
'Fetchmail' uncovered further.
More Slashbot baiting.
Apache exposed.
Distribution licence at foot of document.
ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... Up your ass!
LOL - captcha "glorying"
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31272608</id>
	<title>Wired Mirror?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267116300000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/microsoft-cryptome/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/microsoft-cryptome/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/microsoft-cryptome/</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267330</id>
	<title>Re:But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265120220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Evidence of an illegal act can't be copyrighted.</p><p>Facts aside, no one cares.<br>The majority of authors ruined all trust on the copyright deal by failing to pay the dues for such rights, so it's not like anyone is going to believe them that they plan to pay for their copyrights in the end.  Assuming they will not and thus not honoring their copyright is about is the only way to protect from being robbed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Evidence of an illegal act ca n't be copyrighted.Facts aside , no one cares.The majority of authors ruined all trust on the copyright deal by failing to pay the dues for such rights , so it 's not like anyone is going to believe them that they plan to pay for their copyrights in the end .
Assuming they will not and thus not honoring their copyright is about is the only way to protect from being robbed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Evidence of an illegal act can't be copyrighted.Facts aside, no one cares.The majority of authors ruined all trust on the copyright deal by failing to pay the dues for such rights, so it's not like anyone is going to believe them that they plan to pay for their copyrights in the end.
Assuming they will not and thus not honoring their copyright is about is the only way to protect from being robbed.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Wikileaks</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1265110980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>In a gesture of goodwill Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed.</p></div></blockquote><p>That's nice of them, but honestly I'd like it if they started hosting their own site again, too.</p></div>
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<tokenext>In a gesture of goodwill Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed.That 's nice of them , but honestly I 'd like it if they started hosting their own site again , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a gesture of goodwill Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed.That's nice of them, but honestly I'd like it if they started hosting their own site again, too.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266088</id>
	<title>Is this the same Wikileaks...</title>
	<author>Improv</author>
	<datestamp>1265111820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>That appears to be nearly dead for lack of funding? Generosity is good, but probably not on one's deathbed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That appears to be nearly dead for lack of funding ?
Generosity is good , but probably not on one 's deathbed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That appears to be nearly dead for lack of funding?
Generosity is good, but probably not on one's deathbed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265964</id>
	<title>Re:Already gone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265111160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Young says there is a &ldquo;NetSol &lsquo;Legal Lock&rsquo; on the domain name to prevent it being transferred to another ISP until the &ldquo;dispute&rdquo; is settled; All Cryptome pages other than the home page now generate a 404 message.&rdquo;</p></div><p>It astonishes me that anyone still uses Network Solutions.  Their extensive list of blocks for transferring domain services (read: anytime you'd actually <b>want</b> to, you're prevented) is mind-boggling.
</p><p>I had several domains with them back when they were the only game in town, and every transfer has been a nightmare that usually involves paying for another year of service before a transfer is approved.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Young says there is a    NetSol    Legal Lock    on the domain name to prevent it being transferred to another ISP until the    dispute    is settled ; All Cryptome pages other than the home page now generate a 404 message.    It astonishes me that anyone still uses Network Solutions .
Their extensive list of blocks for transferring domain services ( read : anytime you 'd actually want to , you 're prevented ) is mind-boggling .
I had several domains with them back when they were the only game in town , and every transfer has been a nightmare that usually involves paying for another year of service before a transfer is approved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Young says there is a “NetSol ‘Legal Lock’ on the domain name to prevent it being transferred to another ISP until the “dispute” is settled; All Cryptome pages other than the home page now generate a 404 message.”It astonishes me that anyone still uses Network Solutions.
Their extensive list of blocks for transferring domain services (read: anytime you'd actually want to, you're prevented) is mind-boggling.
I had several domains with them back when they were the only game in town, and every transfer has been a nightmare that usually involves paying for another year of service before a transfer is approved.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31268608</id>
	<title>Re:But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>Bartab</author>
	<datestamp>1265132880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><i>Notice: The above work (30 minutes of artistic time needed), is protected under copyright of this poster, even though no notice of Copyright is required after 1989, and even though this work is entirely a list of facts regarding how Microsoft retains data and discloses it to authorities.</i></p><p>Yes, it's a list of facts. Yes, you cannot copyright simple facts.</p><p>Yes, you may copyright a work that is just a list of facts. No, that doesn't mean the facts themselves are copywritten.<br>No, the pdf document in question is not just a list of facts. As pointed out elsewhere, it's a significant portion of marketroidspeak.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Notice : The above work ( 30 minutes of artistic time needed ) , is protected under copyright of this poster , even though no notice of Copyright is required after 1989 , and even though this work is entirely a list of facts regarding how Microsoft retains data and discloses it to authorities.Yes , it 's a list of facts .
Yes , you can not copyright simple facts.Yes , you may copyright a work that is just a list of facts .
No , that does n't mean the facts themselves are copywritten.No , the pdf document in question is not just a list of facts .
As pointed out elsewhere , it 's a significant portion of marketroidspeak .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notice: The above work (30 minutes of artistic time needed), is protected under copyright of this poster, even though no notice of Copyright is required after 1989, and even though this work is entirely a list of facts regarding how Microsoft retains data and discloses it to authorities.Yes, it's a list of facts.
Yes, you cannot copyright simple facts.Yes, you may copyright a work that is just a list of facts.
No, that doesn't mean the facts themselves are copywritten.No, the pdf document in question is not just a list of facts.
As pointed out elsewhere, it's a significant portion of marketroidspeak.</sentencetext>
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	<title>What's the big deal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265120040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Just read the offending doc.  Seems pretty innocuous to me.  MS would be required to provide all of this info by law.  This just explains the data so MS doesn't have to hold the detectives hand every time they receive a subpoena from law enforcement.  If your concern is that DMCA is being used to suppress information rather than prevent distribution of copyrighted material, just restate the information in your own words.  Problem solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just read the offending doc .
Seems pretty innocuous to me .
MS would be required to provide all of this info by law .
This just explains the data so MS does n't have to hold the detectives hand every time they receive a subpoena from law enforcement .
If your concern is that DMCA is being used to suppress information rather than prevent distribution of copyrighted material , just restate the information in your own words .
Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just read the offending doc.
Seems pretty innocuous to me.
MS would be required to provide all of this info by law.
This just explains the data so MS doesn't have to hold the detectives hand every time they receive a subpoena from law enforcement.
If your concern is that DMCA is being used to suppress information rather than prevent distribution of copyrighted material, just restate the information in your own words.
Problem solved.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Mirror of the offending document?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265110320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>http://file.wikileaks.org/files/microsoft-spy.pdf</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //file.wikileaks.org/files/microsoft-spy.pdf</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://file.wikileaks.org/files/microsoft-spy.pdf</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266222</id>
	<title>Re:Hosting via Twitter</title>
	<author>Chelloveck</author>
	<datestamp>1265112540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This Twitter stuff is getting out of control. First it starts as 140 character messages, now they're hosting entire websites with it.</p></div></blockquote><p>Yes, but each HTTP request or response has to be no more than 140 characters. That means that the HTTP response pretty much consists of 139 characters of header and a single character of content.  It takes a <i>looooonnnnggg</i> time to download...</p></div>
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<tokenext>This Twitter stuff is getting out of control .
First it starts as 140 character messages , now they 're hosting entire websites with it.Yes , but each HTTP request or response has to be no more than 140 characters .
That means that the HTTP response pretty much consists of 139 characters of header and a single character of content .
It takes a looooonnnnggg time to download.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This Twitter stuff is getting out of control.
First it starts as 140 character messages, now they're hosting entire websites with it.Yes, but each HTTP request or response has to be no more than 140 characters.
That means that the HTTP response pretty much consists of 139 characters of header and a single character of content.
It takes a looooonnnnggg time to download...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31268912</id>
	<title>have to wonder...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265136240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did this make it up to the chain to their General Counsel? I'd think this would be noteworthy enough to make for at least a few minutes with Brad Smith before they go strong-arming Cryptome.</p><p>That it comes from their outsourced piracy protection people smells like they did not.</p><p>I mean are they really wanting to make precedent out of it? You would think Microsoft would presume that Cryptome and the EFF, etc., would fight the DMCA being used in this way.</p><p>I have to conclude that the contractor acted above their pay grade on this one...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did this make it up to the chain to their General Counsel ?
I 'd think this would be noteworthy enough to make for at least a few minutes with Brad Smith before they go strong-arming Cryptome.That it comes from their outsourced piracy protection people smells like they did not.I mean are they really wanting to make precedent out of it ?
You would think Microsoft would presume that Cryptome and the EFF , etc. , would fight the DMCA being used in this way.I have to conclude that the contractor acted above their pay grade on this one.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did this make it up to the chain to their General Counsel?
I'd think this would be noteworthy enough to make for at least a few minutes with Brad Smith before they go strong-arming Cryptome.That it comes from their outsourced piracy protection people smells like they did not.I mean are they really wanting to make precedent out of it?
You would think Microsoft would presume that Cryptome and the EFF, etc., would fight the DMCA being used in this way.I have to conclude that the contractor acted above their pay grade on this one...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31273236</id>
	<title>Re:Already gone?</title>
	<author>LandruBek</author>
	<datestamp>1267119420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>as few ACTA-like agreements with the U.S. as possible</p></div></blockquote><p>You mean, secret agreements with undisclosed provisions, negotiated in private?  Um, in that case how *could* anyone know about them -- or whether they even exist?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>as few ACTA-like agreements with the U.S. as possibleYou mean , secret agreements with undisclosed provisions , negotiated in private ?
Um , in that case how * could * anyone know about them -- or whether they even exist ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as few ACTA-like agreements with the U.S. as possibleYou mean, secret agreements with undisclosed provisions, negotiated in private?
Um, in that case how *could* anyone know about them -- or whether they even exist?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266580</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31269796</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot is funny</title>
	<author>dch24</author>
	<datestamp>1267091280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't worry too much. After you have added GPL code to your programs, they'll be GPL too.<br>
<br>
But you can still copyright them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry too much .
After you have added GPL code to your programs , they 'll be GPL too .
But you can still copyright them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry too much.
After you have added GPL code to your programs, they'll be GPL too.
But you can still copyright them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267274</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266302</id>
	<title>Re:Network Solutions as Judge, Jury, and Execution</title>
	<author>urulokion</author>
	<datestamp>1265112900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its appalling, and an abuse of the DCMA takedown notices in every aspect. The takedown procedures are in place to provide a legal safe harbor for the <b>company hosting the content.</b>. The takedown notice is to allow the contested content to be removed to minimize any damage. The takedown period in which the the content is removed it allow time for the copyright to get to court to get a temporary restraining order to keep the content offline. The Counter-Notice allows the person who put up the content to get it back online if they believe they are in the right.</p><p>Network Solutions is NOT the hosting company. It's merely a DNS registrar. NetSol has no legal liability what soever. They went WAY beyond what is legally required. The DCMA required only the contested content be removed in any case. Network Solutions removing access to entire web site is very troubling. And it may even have opened them up to a lawsuit themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its appalling , and an abuse of the DCMA takedown notices in every aspect .
The takedown procedures are in place to provide a legal safe harbor for the company hosting the content.. The takedown notice is to allow the contested content to be removed to minimize any damage .
The takedown period in which the the content is removed it allow time for the copyright to get to court to get a temporary restraining order to keep the content offline .
The Counter-Notice allows the person who put up the content to get it back online if they believe they are in the right.Network Solutions is NOT the hosting company .
It 's merely a DNS registrar .
NetSol has no legal liability what soever .
They went WAY beyond what is legally required .
The DCMA required only the contested content be removed in any case .
Network Solutions removing access to entire web site is very troubling .
And it may even have opened them up to a lawsuit themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its appalling, and an abuse of the DCMA takedown notices in every aspect.
The takedown procedures are in place to provide a legal safe harbor for the company hosting the content.. The takedown notice is to allow the contested content to be removed to minimize any damage.
The takedown period in which the the content is removed it allow time for the copyright to get to court to get a temporary restraining order to keep the content offline.
The Counter-Notice allows the person who put up the content to get it back online if they believe they are in the right.Network Solutions is NOT the hosting company.
It's merely a DNS registrar.
NetSol has no legal liability what soever.
They went WAY beyond what is legally required.
The DCMA required only the contested content be removed in any case.
Network Solutions removing access to entire web site is very troubling.
And it may even have opened them up to a lawsuit themselves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265940</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265832</id>
	<title>new mirror</title>
	<author>TheSHAD0W</author>
	<datestamp>1265110440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A mirror of the site <a href="http://cryptomeorg.siteprotect.net/" title="siteprotect.net">is now up</a> [siteprotect.net], with partial content available and the rest being transferred.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A mirror of the site is now up [ siteprotect.net ] , with partial content available and the rest being transferred .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A mirror of the site is now up [siteprotect.net], with partial content available and the rest being transferred.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265658</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265800</id>
	<title>Mirror and Donation Link Here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265110320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://cryptomeorg.siteprotect.net/" title="siteprotect.net">http://cryptomeorg.siteprotect.net/</a> [siteprotect.net]</p><p>$25 will get you 2 DVDs with 54,000+ articles, spanning June 1996 to February 2010, mailed anywhere in the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //cryptomeorg.siteprotect.net/ [ siteprotect.net ] $ 25 will get you 2 DVDs with 54,000 + articles , spanning June 1996 to February 2010 , mailed anywhere in the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://cryptomeorg.siteprotect.net/ [siteprotect.net]$25 will get you 2 DVDs with 54,000+ articles, spanning June 1996 to February 2010, mailed anywhere in the world.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266910</id>
	<title>Re:Move on...nothing to see here...</title>
	<author>jonbryce</author>
	<datestamp>1265116860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From either the girl or the boyfriend's computer most likely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From either the girl or the boyfriend 's computer most likely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From either the girl or the boyfriend's computer most likely.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266160</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266532</id>
	<title>Re:Mirror of the offending document?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265114400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I don't understand why it's supposedly confidential - there's nothing sensitive in it whatsoever, it seems to match up perfectly with their privacy policies, and even confirms that (for example) they do not log the content of Messenger conversations.</i></p><p>Well, that's flat-out wrong. They DO log the content of messenger conversations, and that has been proven in court.</p><p>There was a murder case in Toronto, Canada where a teenage girl persuaded her boyfriend to kill another girl. Much of the evidence was MSN chat:</p><p><a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/archive/2009/03/09/murder-accused-s-online-chat-records-show-desire-to-kill-rengel-trial.aspx" title="nationalpost.com" rel="nofollow">http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/archive/2009/03/09/murder-accused-s-online-chat-records-show-desire-to-kill-rengel-trial.aspx</a> [nationalpost.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why it 's supposedly confidential - there 's nothing sensitive in it whatsoever , it seems to match up perfectly with their privacy policies , and even confirms that ( for example ) they do not log the content of Messenger conversations.Well , that 's flat-out wrong .
They DO log the content of messenger conversations , and that has been proven in court.There was a murder case in Toronto , Canada where a teenage girl persuaded her boyfriend to kill another girl .
Much of the evidence was MSN chat : http : //network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/archive/2009/03/09/murder-accused-s-online-chat-records-show-desire-to-kill-rengel-trial.aspx [ nationalpost.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why it's supposedly confidential - there's nothing sensitive in it whatsoever, it seems to match up perfectly with their privacy policies, and even confirms that (for example) they do not log the content of Messenger conversations.Well, that's flat-out wrong.
They DO log the content of messenger conversations, and that has been proven in court.There was a murder case in Toronto, Canada where a teenage girl persuaded her boyfriend to kill another girl.
Much of the evidence was MSN chat:http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/archive/2009/03/09/murder-accused-s-online-chat-records-show-desire-to-kill-rengel-trial.aspx [nationalpost.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266068</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31268386</id>
	<title>netsol just like sucking others nut sakz</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265130300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>netsol is in the business to suck nut sakz thats is all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>netsol is in the business to suck nut sakz thats is all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>netsol is in the business to suck nut sakz thats is all.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265940</id>
	<title>Network Solutions as Judge, Jury, and Executioner</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1265110980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone else a little wary of Network Solutions acting as a judge, jury, and executioner?</p><p>Is this their role? Should this be their role?</p><p>What information do they release regarding their processes and decisions?</p><p>Do you trust a corporate entity with such a track record of being difficult to deal with, to interpret the law?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone else a little wary of Network Solutions acting as a judge , jury , and executioner ? Is this their role ?
Should this be their role ? What information do they release regarding their processes and decisions ? Do you trust a corporate entity with such a track record of being difficult to deal with , to interpret the law ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone else a little wary of Network Solutions acting as a judge, jury, and executioner?Is this their role?
Should this be their role?What information do they release regarding their processes and decisions?Do you trust a corporate entity with such a track record of being difficult to deal with, to interpret the law?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266158</id>
	<title>wikileaks.org down</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265112240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It appears that www.wikileaks.org and wikileaks.org are down (connection reset by peer), tried from multiple locations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It appears that www.wikileaks.org and wikileaks.org are down ( connection reset by peer ) , tried from multiple locations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It appears that www.wikileaks.org and wikileaks.org are down (connection reset by peer), tried from multiple locations.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266230</id>
	<title>Re:Ballsy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265112600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm, i never knew Microsoft had so little data to offer. I expect the same document from Google to be more of an eye-opener...<br>I still don't get all the fuzz about which data they keep track of for operational purposes. It's the data they keep track of for "marketing" purposes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , i never knew Microsoft had so little data to offer .
I expect the same document from Google to be more of an eye-opener...I still do n't get all the fuzz about which data they keep track of for operational purposes .
It 's the data they keep track of for " marketing " purposes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, i never knew Microsoft had so little data to offer.
I expect the same document from Google to be more of an eye-opener...I still don't get all the fuzz about which data they keep track of for operational purposes.
It's the data they keep track of for "marketing" purposes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265700</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265794</id>
	<title>Wikileaks mirror</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265110320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://wikileaks.org/" title="wikileaks.org">Wikileaks</a> [wikileaks.org] may not be mirroring Cryptome.org in its entirety yet, but they are hosting <a href="http://file.wikileaks.org/files/microsoft-spy.pdf" title="wikileaks.org">the "offending" material</a> [wikileaks.org].  Download and redistribute!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wikileaks [ wikileaks.org ] may not be mirroring Cryptome.org in its entirety yet , but they are hosting the " offending " material [ wikileaks.org ] .
Download and redistribute !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wikileaks [wikileaks.org] may not be mirroring Cryptome.org in its entirety yet, but they are hosting the "offending" material [wikileaks.org].
Download and redistribute!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31273420</id>
	<title>did anyone donate to cryptome</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267119960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i think we can do that much</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i think we can do that much</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i think we can do that much</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265832</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267384</id>
	<title>This will teach them...</title>
	<author>theNetImp</author>
	<datestamp>1265120820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... to host DNS where their website is hosted.  I host my domains on godaddy, and my sites are elsewhere.  If for some reason any of my sites were ever taken down.  They could be brought up within hours elsewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... to host DNS where their website is hosted .
I host my domains on godaddy , and my sites are elsewhere .
If for some reason any of my sites were ever taken down .
They could be brought up within hours elsewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... to host DNS where their website is hosted.
I host my domains on godaddy, and my sites are elsewhere.
If for some reason any of my sites were ever taken down.
They could be brought up within hours elsewhere.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267248</id>
	<title>Re:The smaller they are the easier they fall</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1265119440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A big player would get sued and expect the suit. The little player would cave before the lawsuit happens.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A big player would get sued and expect the suit .
The little player would cave before the lawsuit happens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A big player would get sued and expect the suit.
The little player would cave before the lawsuit happens.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31268046</id>
	<title>Re:The smaller they are the easier they fall</title>
	<author>russotto</author>
	<datestamp>1265126700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I wonder what this says about the degree of power different entities have when they choose to resist DMCA requests. Would Google's upstream provider(s) ever dare to take Google offline should Google decide not to comply with a particular DMCA request like Cryptome's provider has done?</p></div> </blockquote><p>No part of the DMCA requires an upstream provider (that is, a 17 USC 512(a) service provider) to disconnect a user.  Only hosting providers (17 USC 512(c)) and search providers (17 USC 512(d)) are required to take down material.  Google is presumably self-hosted.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what this says about the degree of power different entities have when they choose to resist DMCA requests .
Would Google 's upstream provider ( s ) ever dare to take Google offline should Google decide not to comply with a particular DMCA request like Cryptome 's provider has done ?
No part of the DMCA requires an upstream provider ( that is , a 17 USC 512 ( a ) service provider ) to disconnect a user .
Only hosting providers ( 17 USC 512 ( c ) ) and search providers ( 17 USC 512 ( d ) ) are required to take down material .
Google is presumably self-hosted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what this says about the degree of power different entities have when they choose to resist DMCA requests.
Would Google's upstream provider(s) ever dare to take Google offline should Google decide not to comply with a particular DMCA request like Cryptome's provider has done?
No part of the DMCA requires an upstream provider (that is, a 17 USC 512(a) service provider) to disconnect a user.
Only hosting providers (17 USC 512(c)) and search providers (17 USC 512(d)) are required to take down material.
Google is presumably self-hosted.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31272286</id>
	<title>Re:Actually somewhat reassuring</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267114680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I felt the same. Except there are no details for SkyDive (online storage with encryption), it would have been interesting.</p><p>They do not mention much on documents stored in Live Workplace or Office Liver either.</p><p>Well at least it looks like they do not keep MSN Messenger message content. That or they do not want to tell they have it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I felt the same .
Except there are no details for SkyDive ( online storage with encryption ) , it would have been interesting.They do not mention much on documents stored in Live Workplace or Office Liver either.Well at least it looks like they do not keep MSN Messenger message content .
That or they do not want to tell they have it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I felt the same.
Except there are no details for SkyDive (online storage with encryption), it would have been interesting.They do not mention much on documents stored in Live Workplace or Office Liver either.Well at least it looks like they do not keep MSN Messenger message content.
That or they do not want to tell they have it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266482</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266946</id>
	<title>The internet...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265117100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...interprets censorship as damage and finds a way to route around it.</p><p>Microsoft can't win this one, and Cryptome can't lose this one.</p><p>Should the DMCA takedown notice be added to Godwin's law?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...interprets censorship as damage and finds a way to route around it.Microsoft ca n't win this one , and Cryptome ca n't lose this one.Should the DMCA takedown notice be added to Godwin 's law ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...interprets censorship as damage and finds a way to route around it.Microsoft can't win this one, and Cryptome can't lose this one.Should the DMCA takedown notice be added to Godwin's law?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265844</id>
	<title>Re:Ballsy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265110500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>both wikileaks and cryptome should periodically make torrents of all their contents and release them to the world.  That is a good idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>both wikileaks and cryptome should periodically make torrents of all their contents and release them to the world .
That is a good idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>both wikileaks and cryptome should periodically make torrents of all their contents and release them to the world.
That is a good idea.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265700</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266886</id>
	<title>Re:Mirror of the offending document?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265116740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>on the pirate bay.<br>torrent #5391026</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>on the pirate bay.torrent # 5391026</tokentext>
<sentencetext>on the pirate bay.torrent #5391026</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31276482</id>
	<title>Re:Already gone?</title>
	<author>Threni</author>
	<datestamp>1267130700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The site is back up now - Microsoft withdrew their complaint - presumably because everyone who wants the document now has it, and they didn't want to be known as the people who brought Cryptome down (or even the people who brought cryptome down for a few days until they found another ISP).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The site is back up now - Microsoft withdrew their complaint - presumably because everyone who wants the document now has it , and they did n't want to be known as the people who brought Cryptome down ( or even the people who brought cryptome down for a few days until they found another ISP ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The site is back up now - Microsoft withdrew their complaint - presumably because everyone who wants the document now has it, and they didn't want to be known as the people who brought Cryptome down (or even the people who brought cryptome down for a few days until they found another ISP).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265952</id>
	<title>Twitter hosting</title>
	<author>Homburg</author>
	<datestamp>1265111160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed.</p></div><p>Hosting 140 characters at a time?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed.Hosting 140 characters at a time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wikileaks has offered to host Cryptome via their twitter feed.Hosting 140 characters at a time?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31270506</id>
	<title>All corporations do it</title>
	<author>BhaKi</author>
	<datestamp>1267100940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think the number of people who use Microsoft's online services is less than the number of people who use Google's online services. We should be more concerned about Google's tie-ups with Feds and NSA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the number of people who use Microsoft 's online services is less than the number of people who use Google 's online services .
We should be more concerned about Google 's tie-ups with Feds and NSA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the number of people who use Microsoft's online services is less than the number of people who use Google's online services.
We should be more concerned about Google's tie-ups with Feds and NSA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266006</id>
	<title>Move on...nothing to see here...</title>
	<author>LDAPMAN</author>
	<datestamp>1265111340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Having just skimmed the doc, I don't see why anyone would care. The information available to law enforcement is actually less than I had expected.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Having just skimmed the doc , I do n't see why anyone would care .
The information available to law enforcement is actually less than I had expected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having just skimmed the doc, I don't see why anyone would care.
The information available to law enforcement is actually less than I had expected.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31267274</id>
	<title>Slashdot is funny</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265119680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So all that stuff earlier this week where everyone was cheering because the GPL is legally enforceable was just a cover, right? I mean, every single post in this thread is endorsing breaking copyright law. But every single posts in those threads were endorsing protecting copyright law.</p><p>Weird!!!!!</p><p>Tell you what slashdot. Whenever you have an article where you endorse breaking copyright law, I'm going to go ahead and break copyright law. By taking GPL code and using it in my closed source programs.</p><p>Deal?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So all that stuff earlier this week where everyone was cheering because the GPL is legally enforceable was just a cover , right ?
I mean , every single post in this thread is endorsing breaking copyright law .
But every single posts in those threads were endorsing protecting copyright law.Weird ! ! ! !
! Tell you what slashdot .
Whenever you have an article where you endorse breaking copyright law , I 'm going to go ahead and break copyright law .
By taking GPL code and using it in my closed source programs.Deal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So all that stuff earlier this week where everyone was cheering because the GPL is legally enforceable was just a cover, right?
I mean, every single post in this thread is endorsing breaking copyright law.
But every single posts in those threads were endorsing protecting copyright law.Weird!!!!
!Tell you what slashdot.
Whenever you have an article where you endorse breaking copyright law, I'm going to go ahead and break copyright law.
By taking GPL code and using it in my closed source programs.Deal?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31266566</id>
	<title>Re:But it *is* copyrighted, right?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265114580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depends on your view of the third leg of democracy: news publishing. Cryptome's view in this case that copyright does not apply to keeping secrets; they're being whistle-blowers.</p><p>I don't know if copyright has been presented to court before to protect an entire secret document. This would be a good time for some of our<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. lawyers and law students to point out precedence for us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on your view of the third leg of democracy : news publishing .
Cryptome 's view in this case that copyright does not apply to keeping secrets ; they 're being whistle-blowers.I do n't know if copyright has been presented to court before to protect an entire secret document .
This would be a good time for some of our / .
lawyers and law students to point out precedence for us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on your view of the third leg of democracy: news publishing.
Cryptome's view in this case that copyright does not apply to keeping secrets; they're being whistle-blowers.I don't know if copyright has been presented to court before to protect an entire secret document.
This would be a good time for some of our /.
lawyers and law students to point out precedence for us.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1939257.31265728</id>
	<title>Mirror of the offending document?</title>
	<author>base3</author>
	<datestamp>1265110080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>MD5? Magnet link? Not that I would seek it out or anything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>MD5 ?
Magnet link ?
Not that I would seek it out or anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MD5?
Magnet link?
Not that I would seek it out or anything.</sentencetext>
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