<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_22_1814248</id>
	<title>School Spying Scandal Gets Even More Bizarre</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1266864720000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Several sources following the recent school webcam spying debacle are reporting that an even stranger twist has surfaced.  The student in question that was disciplined for an "improper act" was apparently accused of either drug use or drug selling.  Turns out he was <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20100221/2118128243.shtml">eating Mike &amp; Ike candy</a>, not popping pills.  While there is probably more to this story than has made it to the general public, the officials involved have done a particularly bad job of actually managing the events.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Several sources following the recent school webcam spying debacle are reporting that an even stranger twist has surfaced .
The student in question that was disciplined for an " improper act " was apparently accused of either drug use or drug selling .
Turns out he was eating Mike &amp; Ike candy , not popping pills .
While there is probably more to this story than has made it to the general public , the officials involved have done a particularly bad job of actually managing the events .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Several sources following the recent school webcam spying debacle are reporting that an even stranger twist has surfaced.
The student in question that was disciplined for an "improper act" was apparently accused of either drug use or drug selling.
Turns out he was eating Mike &amp; Ike candy, not popping pills.
While there is probably more to this story than has made it to the general public, the officials involved have done a particularly bad job of actually managing the events.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31241038</id>
	<title>Re:Bizzarre doesn't begin to cover it</title>
	<author>iphinome</author>
	<datestamp>1266863220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I disagree, at the point where the FBI is called you should start thinking about your 5'th amendment rights and shut the hell up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree , at the point where the FBI is called you should start thinking about your 5'th amendment rights and shut the hell up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree, at the point where the FBI is called you should start thinking about your 5'th amendment rights and shut the hell up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233384</id>
	<title>Re:To be fair</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266869160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They could have caught him cutting open his little sister for all I care.</p><p>The school claims the system was only used to locate stolen laptops. If the kid's laptop had indeed been reported as stolen to the school, all 'bad things' that it caught (like him masturbating) isn't the school's fault.</p><p>If it HADN'T been reported stolen, then they have no 'get out of jail free card' on seeing him cutting open his little sister. They're still guilty of illegal wire tapping and if they've done it once, it really should be up to them to prove, no-one has been using the system to spy on people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They could have caught him cutting open his little sister for all I care.The school claims the system was only used to locate stolen laptops .
If the kid 's laptop had indeed been reported as stolen to the school , all 'bad things ' that it caught ( like him masturbating ) is n't the school 's fault.If it HAD N'T been reported stolen , then they have no 'get out of jail free card ' on seeing him cutting open his little sister .
They 're still guilty of illegal wire tapping and if they 've done it once , it really should be up to them to prove , no-one has been using the system to spy on people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They could have caught him cutting open his little sister for all I care.The school claims the system was only used to locate stolen laptops.
If the kid's laptop had indeed been reported as stolen to the school, all 'bad things' that it caught (like him masturbating) isn't the school's fault.If it HADN'T been reported stolen, then they have no 'get out of jail free card' on seeing him cutting open his little sister.
They're still guilty of illegal wire tapping and if they've done it once, it really should be up to them to prove, no-one has been using the system to spy on people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233316</id>
	<title>Re:To be fair</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266868980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He was also being watched on a school issue laptop, which is probably a lowest bidder laptop, which cant have the geatest webcam in the world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He was also being watched on a school issue laptop , which is probably a lowest bidder laptop , which cant have the geatest webcam in the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He was also being watched on a school issue laptop, which is probably a lowest bidder laptop, which cant have the geatest webcam in the world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233396</id>
	<title>Bizzarre doesn't begin to cover it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266869160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I go to Villanova University, which is 5 minutes by train from Lower Merion. One of my profs has a daughter that goes there (when I showed him the brief on Thursday, he was floored.)<br> <br>
The Mike &amp; Ike thing is pretty damn bizarre, but it makes sense.<br> <br>
I expect the school already deleted the logs. Then again, given the tech competence of my own high school (all software and VLKs were on public shares, all documents were accessible [all users] if logged in via RDP, including passwords to the externally hosted attendance/transcript web app, etc.), it would not be terribly surprising if they just saved it all.
<br> <br>
And I was disciplined for taking prescription medication for which the school had a proper release (i.e. I signed the right form and gave a doctor's note saying I needed to have the medication on my person). Nosy administrators "thinking of the children" and overreacting to non-issues (as well as egregious violations of privacy) would be nothing new in my book.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I go to Villanova University , which is 5 minutes by train from Lower Merion .
One of my profs has a daughter that goes there ( when I showed him the brief on Thursday , he was floored .
) The Mike &amp; Ike thing is pretty damn bizarre , but it makes sense .
I expect the school already deleted the logs .
Then again , given the tech competence of my own high school ( all software and VLKs were on public shares , all documents were accessible [ all users ] if logged in via RDP , including passwords to the externally hosted attendance/transcript web app , etc .
) , it would not be terribly surprising if they just saved it all .
And I was disciplined for taking prescription medication for which the school had a proper release ( i.e .
I signed the right form and gave a doctor 's note saying I needed to have the medication on my person ) .
Nosy administrators " thinking of the children " and overreacting to non-issues ( as well as egregious violations of privacy ) would be nothing new in my book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I go to Villanova University, which is 5 minutes by train from Lower Merion.
One of my profs has a daughter that goes there (when I showed him the brief on Thursday, he was floored.
) 
The Mike &amp; Ike thing is pretty damn bizarre, but it makes sense.
I expect the school already deleted the logs.
Then again, given the tech competence of my own high school (all software and VLKs were on public shares, all documents were accessible [all users] if logged in via RDP, including passwords to the externally hosted attendance/transcript web app, etc.
), it would not be terribly surprising if they just saved it all.
And I was disciplined for taking prescription medication for which the school had a proper release (i.e.
I signed the right form and gave a doctor's note saying I needed to have the medication on my person).
Nosy administrators "thinking of the children" and overreacting to non-issues (as well as egregious violations of privacy) would be nothing new in my book.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234714</id>
	<title>Re:More info on Network Adminsistrator.</title>
	<author>AndersOSU</author>
	<datestamp>1266829980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks for that link.  Wow, just Wow.</p><blockquote><div><p>"Hi, I'm a 2009 Graduate of Harriton Highschool. [...] I and a few of my fellow peers were suspicious of this sort of activity when we first received the laptops. The light next to the web cam would randomly come on, whether we were in class, in study hall or at home minding our own business. We reported it multiple times, each time getting the response: "It's only a malfunction. if you'd like we'll look into it and give you a loaner computer."</p></div> </blockquote><p>If this is half as bad as it sounds, they're screwed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for that link .
Wow , just Wow .
" Hi , I 'm a 2009 Graduate of Harriton Highschool .
[ ... ] I and a few of my fellow peers were suspicious of this sort of activity when we first received the laptops .
The light next to the web cam would randomly come on , whether we were in class , in study hall or at home minding our own business .
We reported it multiple times , each time getting the response : " It 's only a malfunction .
if you 'd like we 'll look into it and give you a loaner computer .
" If this is half as bad as it sounds , they 're screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for that link.
Wow, just Wow.
"Hi, I'm a 2009 Graduate of Harriton Highschool.
[...] I and a few of my fellow peers were suspicious of this sort of activity when we first received the laptops.
The light next to the web cam would randomly come on, whether we were in class, in study hall or at home minding our own business.
We reported it multiple times, each time getting the response: "It's only a malfunction.
if you'd like we'll look into it and give you a loaner computer.
" If this is half as bad as it sounds, they're screwed.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31248858</id>
	<title>Other hypothetical cases</title>
	<author>billstewart</author>
	<datestamp>1266957420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The one case I can see where they might hypothetically have a case for accusing him of inappropriate behaviour is that <b>if the laptop were being used for cracking the school's computer system, posting inappropriate material in the school's discussion sites, etc.</b> <i>then they might have had an excuse to turn on the camera to verify who was using it</i>, and then they might have been able to accuse him of inappropriate behaviour.  None of their business if he's smoking dope naked or eating high-fructose-corn-syrup candies that are banned from the school's vending machines, but the candy picture could be legitimate evidence if they're busting him for cracking.</p><p>On the other hand, if their policy is really that the system is only used to locate stolen laptops, then they've either got a record that somebody said the laptop was stolen, or they don't, and if there's a record that that laptop was stolen, and if the laptop was registered to that kid, and the camera shows that kid using it, legitimate case closed, delete the picture, and anything else they do with the picture is invasion of privacy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The one case I can see where they might hypothetically have a case for accusing him of inappropriate behaviour is that if the laptop were being used for cracking the school 's computer system , posting inappropriate material in the school 's discussion sites , etc .
then they might have had an excuse to turn on the camera to verify who was using it , and then they might have been able to accuse him of inappropriate behaviour .
None of their business if he 's smoking dope naked or eating high-fructose-corn-syrup candies that are banned from the school 's vending machines , but the candy picture could be legitimate evidence if they 're busting him for cracking.On the other hand , if their policy is really that the system is only used to locate stolen laptops , then they 've either got a record that somebody said the laptop was stolen , or they do n't , and if there 's a record that that laptop was stolen , and if the laptop was registered to that kid , and the camera shows that kid using it , legitimate case closed , delete the picture , and anything else they do with the picture is invasion of privacy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The one case I can see where they might hypothetically have a case for accusing him of inappropriate behaviour is that if the laptop were being used for cracking the school's computer system, posting inappropriate material in the school's discussion sites, etc.
then they might have had an excuse to turn on the camera to verify who was using it, and then they might have been able to accuse him of inappropriate behaviour.
None of their business if he's smoking dope naked or eating high-fructose-corn-syrup candies that are banned from the school's vending machines, but the candy picture could be legitimate evidence if they're busting him for cracking.On the other hand, if their policy is really that the system is only used to locate stolen laptops, then they've either got a record that somebody said the laptop was stolen, or they don't, and if there's a record that that laptop was stolen, and if the laptop was registered to that kid, and the camera shows that kid using it, legitimate case closed, delete the picture, and anything else they do with the picture is invasion of privacy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233312</id>
	<title>Actually...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266868980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They were drugs, just prescribed by Dr. Mario!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They were drugs , just prescribed by Dr. Mario !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They were drugs, just prescribed by Dr. Mario!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235422</id>
	<title>Re:webcam light?</title>
	<author>Attila Dimedici</author>
	<datestamp>1266832200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apparently they did notice it. When they reported it to the school to ask about it they were told that it was just a glitch that some of that model laptop have (the webcam light flashing even when the webcam is not active).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently they did notice it .
When they reported it to the school to ask about it they were told that it was just a glitch that some of that model laptop have ( the webcam light flashing even when the webcam is not active ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently they did notice it.
When they reported it to the school to ask about it they were told that it was just a glitch that some of that model laptop have (the webcam light flashing even when the webcam is not active).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31237948</id>
	<title>Re:Wait..</title>
	<author>cxx</author>
	<datestamp>1266840720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>*Facts presented so far in this case are less than facts until a court rules.  I don't claim to know what happened, I'm just a sheep parroting the hearsay I come across.</p></div><p>Thanks for the footnote<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it should be at the end of every post in this discussion.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. can really go rampant on speculation, but what's new?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>* Facts presented so far in this case are less than facts until a court rules .
I do n't claim to know what happened , I 'm just a sheep parroting the hearsay I come across.Thanks for the footnote ... it should be at the end of every post in this discussion .
/. can really go rampant on speculation , but what 's new ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*Facts presented so far in this case are less than facts until a court rules.
I don't claim to know what happened, I'm just a sheep parroting the hearsay I come across.Thanks for the footnote ... it should be at the end of every post in this discussion.
/. can really go rampant on speculation, but what's new?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233894</id>
	<title>Re:Haha, 'ol Mike &amp; Ikes</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1266870900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>These days, some "school resource officer" (yes, schools today have actual full-time cops on duty) would probably have you in handcuffs and standing before a judge for that. The other day I read about an 11-year-old girl who got arrested by her SRO for writing on her desk with a marker. Hire a cop and he has to justify his job, after all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>These days , some " school resource officer " ( yes , schools today have actual full-time cops on duty ) would probably have you in handcuffs and standing before a judge for that .
The other day I read about an 11-year-old girl who got arrested by her SRO for writing on her desk with a marker .
Hire a cop and he has to justify his job , after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These days, some "school resource officer" (yes, schools today have actual full-time cops on duty) would probably have you in handcuffs and standing before a judge for that.
The other day I read about an 11-year-old girl who got arrested by her SRO for writing on her desk with a marker.
Hire a cop and he has to justify his job, after all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31239202</id>
	<title>Snooping in school</title>
	<author>zrq</author>
	<datestamp>1266848160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I think what this (different) school is doing is fantastic, and I applaud their efforts and achievements.
However<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... checkout what happens at 4:37 in the video.
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/digitalnation/learning/schools/how-google-saved-a-school.html?play" title="pbs.org">How Google Saved A School</a> [pbs.org]
</p><p>
Yes, different school, and the students are in school at the time, but<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... I'm not sure I like the idea of teaching kids to accept this level of surveillance as 'normal'.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think what this ( different ) school is doing is fantastic , and I applaud their efforts and achievements .
However ... checkout what happens at 4 : 37 in the video .
How Google Saved A School [ pbs.org ] Yes , different school , and the students are in school at the time , but .... I 'm not sure I like the idea of teaching kids to accept this level of surveillance as 'normal' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I think what this (different) school is doing is fantastic, and I applaud their efforts and achievements.
However ... checkout what happens at 4:37 in the video.
How Google Saved A School [pbs.org]

Yes, different school, and the students are in school at the time, but .... I'm not sure I like the idea of teaching kids to accept this level of surveillance as 'normal'.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31237308</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266838140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was a kid in the 80s and 90s, and drugs were exactly what a whole other posts have already said they were. Mainly, nothing like candy, and taken in dosages nothing like candy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was a kid in the 80s and 90s , and drugs were exactly what a whole other posts have already said they were .
Mainly , nothing like candy , and taken in dosages nothing like candy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was a kid in the 80s and 90s, and drugs were exactly what a whole other posts have already said they were.
Mainly, nothing like candy, and taken in dosages nothing like candy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31240112</id>
	<title>All the reason to make drugs resemble candies.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266854460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lots of kids being told by "cool" teachers on drugs, they'll be impressed to re-invent ways to conceal the candies to resemble drugs just to get a few false-prosecutions on the courts.</p><p>Reminds me of when I bought my first pack of Cigarettes from the mailtruck Ice-Cream Man back in the 90's...they were bubble-gum Cigarettes that actually put a puff of powder in the air when you blew into them.</p><p>Now the drugs will resemble candies.  I'ld like to thank the wonder LOLciphers in D.A.R.E. for that wonderful exhibit of Cocaine and Marijuana glasswork brought into my class to interrupt my Christian School Teacher's math class: fine intrusions as that remind me of why this is such a great country, when Drug peddlers also dress as COPS and steal competing drug-dealers glassware just to make a point that they can do it and cary mumified drugs and periphernalie into a drug-free zone while armed and wearing body-armor.</p><p>Society is for psychopaths hiding behind a badge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lots of kids being told by " cool " teachers on drugs , they 'll be impressed to re-invent ways to conceal the candies to resemble drugs just to get a few false-prosecutions on the courts.Reminds me of when I bought my first pack of Cigarettes from the mailtruck Ice-Cream Man back in the 90 's...they were bubble-gum Cigarettes that actually put a puff of powder in the air when you blew into them.Now the drugs will resemble candies .
I'ld like to thank the wonder LOLciphers in D.A.R.E .
for that wonderful exhibit of Cocaine and Marijuana glasswork brought into my class to interrupt my Christian School Teacher 's math class : fine intrusions as that remind me of why this is such a great country , when Drug peddlers also dress as COPS and steal competing drug-dealers glassware just to make a point that they can do it and cary mumified drugs and periphernalie into a drug-free zone while armed and wearing body-armor.Society is for psychopaths hiding behind a badge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lots of kids being told by "cool" teachers on drugs, they'll be impressed to re-invent ways to conceal the candies to resemble drugs just to get a few false-prosecutions on the courts.Reminds me of when I bought my first pack of Cigarettes from the mailtruck Ice-Cream Man back in the 90's...they were bubble-gum Cigarettes that actually put a puff of powder in the air when you blew into them.Now the drugs will resemble candies.
I'ld like to thank the wonder LOLciphers in D.A.R.E.
for that wonderful exhibit of Cocaine and Marijuana glasswork brought into my class to interrupt my Christian School Teacher's math class: fine intrusions as that remind me of why this is such a great country, when Drug peddlers also dress as COPS and steal competing drug-dealers glassware just to make a point that they can do it and cary mumified drugs and periphernalie into a drug-free zone while armed and wearing body-armor.Society is for psychopaths hiding behind a badge.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233664</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1266870060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Still legal, for a short time.</p><p>However, the Obama we-hate-fat-kids panel will soon fix that loophole.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Still legal , for a short time.However , the Obama we-hate-fat-kids panel will soon fix that loophole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still legal, for a short time.However, the Obama we-hate-fat-kids panel will soon fix that loophole.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31240712</id>
	<title>MNI</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266859920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There were drugs in that Mike N Ike box, I know that because nobody actually eats Mike N Ike's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There were drugs in that Mike N Ike box , I know that because nobody actually eats Mike N Ike 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There were drugs in that Mike N Ike box, I know that because nobody actually eats Mike N Ike's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236984</id>
	<title>Re:Underwear check</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266836820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But "commando" is still allowed, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But " commando " is still allowed , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But "commando" is still allowed, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238566</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266844320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just for legal fun:</p><p>One reason you don't see big carrier mediums (candy, etc) is that the weight of the candy counts when measuring how much drug there is for the purpose of determining minimum mandatory sentence</p><p>Under 21 U.S.C.  841(b)(1)(A)(v), where there is a violation involving:<br>(1)(A)(v) 10 grams or more of a mixture or substance containing a detectable amount of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD);<br>Such person shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment which may not be less than 10 years</p><p>The language of the statute leaves open to interpretation what exactly determines the weight of the mixture.  Is it the LSD alone, or the entire mixture including the carrier medium?  The U.S. Supreme Court answered this question, stating &ldquo;the statute requires the weight of the carrier medium to be included when determining the appropriate sentence for trafficking in LSD.&rdquo; - US v. Chapman</p><p>-AC</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just for legal fun : One reason you do n't see big carrier mediums ( candy , etc ) is that the weight of the candy counts when measuring how much drug there is for the purpose of determining minimum mandatory sentenceUnder 21 U.S.C .
841 ( b ) ( 1 ) ( A ) ( v ) , where there is a violation involving : ( 1 ) ( A ) ( v ) 10 grams or more of a mixture or substance containing a detectable amount of lysergic acid diethylamide ( LSD ) ; Such person shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment which may not be less than 10 yearsThe language of the statute leaves open to interpretation what exactly determines the weight of the mixture .
Is it the LSD alone , or the entire mixture including the carrier medium ?
The U.S. Supreme Court answered this question , stating    the statute requires the weight of the carrier medium to be included when determining the appropriate sentence for trafficking in LSD.    - US v. Chapman-AC</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just for legal fun:One reason you don't see big carrier mediums (candy, etc) is that the weight of the candy counts when measuring how much drug there is for the purpose of determining minimum mandatory sentenceUnder 21 U.S.C.
841(b)(1)(A)(v), where there is a violation involving:(1)(A)(v) 10 grams or more of a mixture or substance containing a detectable amount of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD);Such person shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment which may not be less than 10 yearsThe language of the statute leaves open to interpretation what exactly determines the weight of the mixture.
Is it the LSD alone, or the entire mixture including the carrier medium?
The U.S. Supreme Court answered this question, stating “the statute requires the weight of the carrier medium to be included when determining the appropriate sentence for trafficking in LSD.” - US v. Chapman-AC</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235524</id>
	<title>Re:Chain of evidence</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1266832500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are no "rules of evidence" in a school setting. My daughter was moved to a different table during lunch because another student misheard something she said and complained. Sure, kids lie all the time... but so do teachers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are no " rules of evidence " in a school setting .
My daughter was moved to a different table during lunch because another student misheard something she said and complained .
Sure , kids lie all the time... but so do teachers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are no "rules of evidence" in a school setting.
My daughter was moved to a different table during lunch because another student misheard something she said and complained.
Sure, kids lie all the time... but so do teachers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234080</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234834</id>
	<title>Re:Wait..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266830400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm just a sheep parroting the hearsay I come across.</p></div><p>Not a baaaa'ing parrot?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm just a sheep parroting the hearsay I come across.Not a baaaa'ing parrot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm just a sheep parroting the hearsay I come across.Not a baaaa'ing parrot?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233280</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234284</id>
	<title>Re:Haha, 'ol Mike &amp; Ikes</title>
	<author>sconeu</author>
	<datestamp>1266871980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uh, Mike&amp;Ike's are multicolored.  Good&amp;Plenty was pink and white.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , Mike&amp;Ike 's are multicolored .
Good&amp;Plenty was pink and white .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, Mike&amp;Ike's are multicolored.
Good&amp;Plenty was pink and white.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235228</id>
	<title>Re:Whose candy was it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266831600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1.Buy Mike &amp; Ikes from local grocery store<br>2.Sell M&amp;I to high school students<br>3.???<br>4.Profit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1.Buy Mike &amp; Ikes from local grocery store2.Sell M&amp;I to high school students3. ? ?
? 4.Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.Buy Mike &amp; Ikes from local grocery store2.Sell M&amp;I to high school students3.??
?4.Profit!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233298</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31237700</id>
	<title>Seize the schools computers!!</title>
	<author>killfixx</author>
	<datestamp>1266839820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If this were any other case of possible child pornography, all the computers, backups, etc... would have been seized. I can only hope they have, in this case, and are found to contain hundreds of violations.</p><p>This is sickening.</p><p>I more outraged and offended by the blatant violation of these student's privacy than I am by what may have been captured. Even if every single image is found to contain nothing more offensive than candy eating and television viewing, I hope the school if found guilty of child pornography.</p><p>Especially if the PCs were a mandatory part of curriculum and not allowed to be modified in any way that would disable the webcam. Covering the webcam could be considered disabling it. And let's face it, would have been considered disabling it.</p><p>Disgusting.</p><p>I hope the entire school district burns for this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If this were any other case of possible child pornography , all the computers , backups , etc... would have been seized .
I can only hope they have , in this case , and are found to contain hundreds of violations.This is sickening.I more outraged and offended by the blatant violation of these student 's privacy than I am by what may have been captured .
Even if every single image is found to contain nothing more offensive than candy eating and television viewing , I hope the school if found guilty of child pornography.Especially if the PCs were a mandatory part of curriculum and not allowed to be modified in any way that would disable the webcam .
Covering the webcam could be considered disabling it .
And let 's face it , would have been considered disabling it.Disgusting.I hope the entire school district burns for this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this were any other case of possible child pornography, all the computers, backups, etc... would have been seized.
I can only hope they have, in this case, and are found to contain hundreds of violations.This is sickening.I more outraged and offended by the blatant violation of these student's privacy than I am by what may have been captured.
Even if every single image is found to contain nothing more offensive than candy eating and television viewing, I hope the school if found guilty of child pornography.Especially if the PCs were a mandatory part of curriculum and not allowed to be modified in any way that would disable the webcam.
Covering the webcam could be considered disabling it.
And let's face it, would have been considered disabling it.Disgusting.I hope the entire school district burns for this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234306</id>
	<title>Re:More info on Network Adminsistrator.</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1266872040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should be modded to +50. If HALF of the information from that page is true then Mike Perbix is one twisted son of a bitch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should be modded to + 50 .
If HALF of the information from that page is true then Mike Perbix is one twisted son of a bitch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should be modded to +50.
If HALF of the information from that page is true then Mike Perbix is one twisted son of a bitch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233452</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235774</id>
	<title>Re:Not sure if I should laugh or cry...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266833160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>The FBI ought to confiscate all school administrators, IT staff computers and perform forensic work on the hard drives and then we'll see whats really going on here. </tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>The FBI ought to confiscate all school administrators , IT staff computers and perform forensic work on the hard drives and then we 'll see whats really going on here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The FBI ought to confiscate all school administrators, IT staff computers and perform forensic work on the hard drives and then we'll see whats really going on here. </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234034</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233232</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>binarylarry</author>
	<datestamp>1266868680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude these drugs look awesome, where can I get some and how much are you asking?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude these drugs look awesome , where can I get some and how much are you asking ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude these drugs look awesome, where can I get some and how much are you asking?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233752</id>
	<title>Re:Still can't,</title>
	<author>guruevi</author>
	<datestamp>1266870420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most schools don't have a decent IT admin. They either cannot afford it or they are not competent enough to seek out and hire the competent. In the first case this usually results in a almost-retired technology teacher becoming the sys/network admin for a multi-campus site using CAT5 held together with wire nuts, in the former case you get an ego-tripping idiot that once attended a Microsoft Valueless Professional sales seminar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most schools do n't have a decent IT admin .
They either can not afford it or they are not competent enough to seek out and hire the competent .
In the first case this usually results in a almost-retired technology teacher becoming the sys/network admin for a multi-campus site using CAT5 held together with wire nuts , in the former case you get an ego-tripping idiot that once attended a Microsoft Valueless Professional sales seminar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most schools don't have a decent IT admin.
They either cannot afford it or they are not competent enough to seek out and hire the competent.
In the first case this usually results in a almost-retired technology teacher becoming the sys/network admin for a multi-campus site using CAT5 held together with wire nuts, in the former case you get an ego-tripping idiot that once attended a Microsoft Valueless Professional sales seminar.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233242</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235296</id>
	<title>Re:Wait..</title>
	<author>Archangel Michael</author>
	<datestamp>1266831780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>How is snapping a picture of a student, with \_no\_ stolen laptop, following in line with their stated security policy?</i></p><p>Automatic snapshots, sent to the server, archived for forensic evidence.</p><p>Someone figured out where the photos were being sent, opened up Firefox and started to look through them all. Who knows what they saw. I'm sure this particular case was just what they figured they could take action on without causing a fire storm. Ooops.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is snapping a picture of a student , with \ _no \ _ stolen laptop , following in line with their stated security policy ? Automatic snapshots , sent to the server , archived for forensic evidence.Someone figured out where the photos were being sent , opened up Firefox and started to look through them all .
Who knows what they saw .
I 'm sure this particular case was just what they figured they could take action on without causing a fire storm .
Ooops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is snapping a picture of a student, with \_no\_ stolen laptop, following in line with their stated security policy?Automatic snapshots, sent to the server, archived for forensic evidence.Someone figured out where the photos were being sent, opened up Firefox and started to look through them all.
Who knows what they saw.
I'm sure this particular case was just what they figured they could take action on without causing a fire storm.
Ooops.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233280</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31240062</id>
	<title>Whose property is the Laptop, Dell or School Inc.?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266853800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whoever has the controlling interest determines the applicability of law and rate of execution to whomever trusts the inferiour use of that property.</p><p>Notice how the Principal is in a privileged role of the State (parent in fact), and considers the restless duty of parenting to extend from the rolls.  There are no more traditional parents, because the State claims all children to be in it's command as parent alone.</p><p>Revolt already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoever has the controlling interest determines the applicability of law and rate of execution to whomever trusts the inferiour use of that property.Notice how the Principal is in a privileged role of the State ( parent in fact ) , and considers the restless duty of parenting to extend from the rolls .
There are no more traditional parents , because the State claims all children to be in it 's command as parent alone.Revolt already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoever has the controlling interest determines the applicability of law and rate of execution to whomever trusts the inferiour use of that property.Notice how the Principal is in a privileged role of the State (parent in fact), and considers the restless duty of parenting to extend from the rolls.
There are no more traditional parents, because the State claims all children to be in it's command as parent alone.Revolt already.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233242</id>
	<title>Still can't,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266868740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still can't believe anybody but the IT department had access to this, and better yet no one in the IT department thought this might be a bad idea...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still ca n't believe anybody but the IT department had access to this , and better yet no one in the IT department thought this might be a bad idea.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still can't believe anybody but the IT department had access to this, and better yet no one in the IT department thought this might be a bad idea...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31237336</id>
	<title>Yet another problem solvable with Duct Tape</title>
	<author>Xibby</author>
	<datestamp>1266838260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how many pieces of tape have been applied to the lenses of the web cams on these laptops in light of the various news stories...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how many pieces of tape have been applied to the lenses of the web cams on these laptops in light of the various news stories.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how many pieces of tape have been applied to the lenses of the web cams on these laptops in light of the various news stories...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236760</id>
	<title>Network Tech describes method, says "ENJOY!"</title>
	<author>Noren</author>
	<datestamp>1266836220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the network technicians for Lower Marion School District, <a href="http://www.lmsd.org/sections/about/depart/tech/default.php?t=departments&amp;p=depart\_tech\_techstaff" title="lmsd.org">Mike Perbix</a> [lmsd.org], described a method to remotely <a href="http://bestsinceslicedbread.blogspot.com/2009/09/turning-built-in-isight-on-and-off.html" title="blogspot.com">Enable and Disable the built in iSight. </a> [blogspot.com]  He concludes this description of how to remotely use webcams with the single word, "ENJOY!". <br> <br>What, exactly, was he "ENJOY!"ing about the ability to remotely operate webcams?</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the network technicians for Lower Marion School District , Mike Perbix [ lmsd.org ] , described a method to remotely Enable and Disable the built in iSight .
[ blogspot.com ] He concludes this description of how to remotely use webcams with the single word , " ENJOY ! " .
What , exactly , was he " ENJOY !
" ing about the ability to remotely operate webcams ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the network technicians for Lower Marion School District, Mike Perbix [lmsd.org], described a method to remotely Enable and Disable the built in iSight.
[blogspot.com]  He concludes this description of how to remotely use webcams with the single word, "ENJOY!".
What, exactly, was he "ENJOY!
"ing about the ability to remotely operate webcams?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234002</id>
	<title>Re:The School is in Pensylvania</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266871260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you a Pedophile?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you a Pedophile ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you a Pedophile?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233402</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234470</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>twidarkling</author>
	<datestamp>1266829320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Illicit and illegal are different. The Dayquil/Nyquil usage you mentioned would be illicit. "Contrary to normal morality." Giant horse pills of ecstasy would be the illegal bit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Illicit and illegal are different .
The Dayquil/Nyquil usage you mentioned would be illicit .
" Contrary to normal morality .
" Giant horse pills of ecstasy would be the illegal bit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Illicit and illegal are different.
The Dayquil/Nyquil usage you mentioned would be illicit.
"Contrary to normal morality.
" Giant horse pills of ecstasy would be the illegal bit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233500</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238642</id>
	<title>Re:Not sure if I should laugh or cry...</title>
	<author>CrazyDuke</author>
	<datestamp>1266844800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And, remember folks!  Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And , remember folks !
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And, remember folks!
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234034</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236444</id>
	<title>Re:Underwear check</title>
	<author>SkeeZerD</author>
	<datestamp>1266835320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The problem is people making up the rules as they go along, often in secret. Our government for example...</p></div><p>I know it's off-topic, but this comment applies equally to the recent ACTA threads!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is people making up the rules as they go along , often in secret .
Our government for example...I know it 's off-topic , but this comment applies equally to the recent ACTA threads !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is people making up the rules as they go along, often in secret.
Our government for example...I know it's off-topic, but this comment applies equally to the recent ACTA threads!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233294</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235918</id>
	<title>Even if it WAS drugs, it still doesn't matter</title>
	<author>moxley</author>
	<datestamp>1266833640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if the kid was shoving heroin suppositories up his ass, it wouldn't make a difference.</p><p>Aside from the serious issue of surruptitiously spying on a minor, it's not the school's job or mandate to watch what kids do in the privacy of their home, legal, illegal, or indifferent. They have no right, and if this were evidence in a trial it would be rejected.</p><p>I am well aware of what the school CLAIMS the software is there for, in fact, they likely are telling the truth - regardless of that though, the fact is that the information on how to control the cam was either abused or not properly secured. Anybody with a brain knows that people have voyeuristic tendencies, especially when teenagers are involved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if the kid was shoving heroin suppositories up his ass , it would n't make a difference.Aside from the serious issue of surruptitiously spying on a minor , it 's not the school 's job or mandate to watch what kids do in the privacy of their home , legal , illegal , or indifferent .
They have no right , and if this were evidence in a trial it would be rejected.I am well aware of what the school CLAIMS the software is there for , in fact , they likely are telling the truth - regardless of that though , the fact is that the information on how to control the cam was either abused or not properly secured .
Anybody with a brain knows that people have voyeuristic tendencies , especially when teenagers are involved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if the kid was shoving heroin suppositories up his ass, it wouldn't make a difference.Aside from the serious issue of surruptitiously spying on a minor, it's not the school's job or mandate to watch what kids do in the privacy of their home, legal, illegal, or indifferent.
They have no right, and if this were evidence in a trial it would be rejected.I am well aware of what the school CLAIMS the software is there for, in fact, they likely are telling the truth - regardless of that though, the fact is that the information on how to control the cam was either abused or not properly secured.
Anybody with a brain knows that people have voyeuristic tendencies, especially when teenagers are involved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233394</id>
	<title>Haha, 'ol Mike &amp; Ikes</title>
	<author>Hellasboy</author>
	<datestamp>1266869160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>LOL!<br>Oh man... Back in high school, I routinely grabbed a box of mike &amp; ike (pink and white flavor/version) from a vending machine and kept it in my backpack to snack on. One day in class, a kid that sat next to me in the row over saw that I kept putting my hand in my backpack and eating something. So he asked what I was eating.<br>Being a jackass, I replied secretly<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "I'm popping steroids"<br>Big white and pink pills... huge effin steroids!<br>He started yelling in class "Steroids! Steroids! He's popping steroids!!!!" Everyone looks over and I didn't expect that kind of reaction from something pretty comical. Luckily nothing came of it, I just replied really quickly that they're just Mike and Ikes... a few laughs later - everything was fine.</p><p>I would expect a high school student to do something like this. However, a principle of a high school should know better and this mess reeks of incompetence on his part.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>LOL ! Oh man... Back in high school , I routinely grabbed a box of mike &amp; ike ( pink and white flavor/version ) from a vending machine and kept it in my backpack to snack on .
One day in class , a kid that sat next to me in the row over saw that I kept putting my hand in my backpack and eating something .
So he asked what I was eating.Being a jackass , I replied secretly ... " I 'm popping steroids " Big white and pink pills... huge effin steroids ! He started yelling in class " Steroids !
Steroids ! He 's popping steroids ! ! ! !
" Everyone looks over and I did n't expect that kind of reaction from something pretty comical .
Luckily nothing came of it , I just replied really quickly that they 're just Mike and Ikes... a few laughs later - everything was fine.I would expect a high school student to do something like this .
However , a principle of a high school should know better and this mess reeks of incompetence on his part .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LOL!Oh man... Back in high school, I routinely grabbed a box of mike &amp; ike (pink and white flavor/version) from a vending machine and kept it in my backpack to snack on.
One day in class, a kid that sat next to me in the row over saw that I kept putting my hand in my backpack and eating something.
So he asked what I was eating.Being a jackass, I replied secretly ... "I'm popping steroids"Big white and pink pills... huge effin steroids!He started yelling in class "Steroids!
Steroids! He's popping steroids!!!!
" Everyone looks over and I didn't expect that kind of reaction from something pretty comical.
Luckily nothing came of it, I just replied really quickly that they're just Mike and Ikes... a few laughs later - everything was fine.I would expect a high school student to do something like this.
However, a principle of a high school should know better and this mess reeks of incompetence on his part.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233498</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266869460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I chew all of my illicit substances.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I chew all of my illicit substances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I chew all of my illicit substances.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236454</id>
	<title>Re:The Crazy loop.</title>
	<author>Shotgun</author>
	<datestamp>1266835380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They don't just want the kids in school.  They want the kids in "special programs" in school.</p><p>True story.  Sister-in-law is a teacher in Reidsville, NC school district.  One child needed special attention for a day for a reading disorder.  The administrator got the kid reclassified to an entirely different category, because that category would have the federal government pay for an entire full-time teacher's salary instead of the district having to pay for a part-time salary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't just want the kids in school .
They want the kids in " special programs " in school.True story .
Sister-in-law is a teacher in Reidsville , NC school district .
One child needed special attention for a day for a reading disorder .
The administrator got the kid reclassified to an entirely different category , because that category would have the federal government pay for an entire full-time teacher 's salary instead of the district having to pay for a part-time salary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't just want the kids in school.
They want the kids in "special programs" in school.True story.
Sister-in-law is a teacher in Reidsville, NC school district.
One child needed special attention for a day for a reading disorder.
The administrator got the kid reclassified to an entirely different category, because that category would have the federal government pay for an entire full-time teacher's salary instead of the district having to pay for a part-time salary.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234882</id>
	<title>not of interest what the kid did</title>
	<author>molecular</author>
	<datestamp>1266830520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't understand why we're even talking about what the kid did or did not do at his home.</p><p>School officials have no fucking business sniffing around in other peoples houses. This is just outrageously wrong and illegal. Even if he was taking drugs, the video should not be accepted by any court as prove. Not even the police is allowed to film you in your own home without previous reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why we 're even talking about what the kid did or did not do at his home.School officials have no fucking business sniffing around in other peoples houses .
This is just outrageously wrong and illegal .
Even if he was taking drugs , the video should not be accepted by any court as prove .
Not even the police is allowed to film you in your own home without previous reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why we're even talking about what the kid did or did not do at his home.School officials have no fucking business sniffing around in other peoples houses.
This is just outrageously wrong and illegal.
Even if he was taking drugs, the video should not be accepted by any court as prove.
Not even the police is allowed to film you in your own home without previous reason.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233826</id>
	<title>Re:Underwear check</title>
	<author>Rich0</author>
	<datestamp>1266870720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Glad to see that they know how to hand out punishment!</p><p>If I pulled a stunt like that at a business (inspecting female employee undergarments to ensure compliance with corporate dress code) you can bet that I wouldn't be facing a demotion to a job that pays a professional wage.  I'd be lucky not to end up in prison, or with $30M in lawsuits, and I'd almost certainly never get a corporate job anytime in the next three lifetimes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Glad to see that they know how to hand out punishment ! If I pulled a stunt like that at a business ( inspecting female employee undergarments to ensure compliance with corporate dress code ) you can bet that I would n't be facing a demotion to a job that pays a professional wage .
I 'd be lucky not to end up in prison , or with $ 30M in lawsuits , and I 'd almost certainly never get a corporate job anytime in the next three lifetimes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Glad to see that they know how to hand out punishment!If I pulled a stunt like that at a business (inspecting female employee undergarments to ensure compliance with corporate dress code) you can bet that I wouldn't be facing a demotion to a job that pays a professional wage.
I'd be lucky not to end up in prison, or with $30M in lawsuits, and I'd almost certainly never get a corporate job anytime in the next three lifetimes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233906</id>
	<title>The Real Issue</title>
	<author>MuChild</author>
	<datestamp>1266870960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>As someone pointed out on another site, there are two big problems with the school's position:<br> <br>1.) Just because they told the kids that they might activate the web cam to find it doesn't give them the right to do so. If the activity is illegal, telling someone you are going to do it beforehand doesn't make it legal. IANAL, but this one sounds pretty shaky.<br> <br> 2.)Even <em>if</em> they had the legitimate authority to use the web cam, once they realized that the laptop was in the hands of the right person, they would have been legally obliged to stop spying. Any information they gleaned from that spying would have been inadmissible in court. <br> <br>From the posting at that link it looks like the school is on a serious freakout powertrip. Requiring the students to have one of these computers, requiring them to use them to the exclusion of all others and then spying on them periodically even if there was no report of the laptop being stolen.<br> <br> The school board and school administration of that town should be burned to the ground with metaphorical salt sown in their professional fields.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone pointed out on another site , there are two big problems with the school 's position : 1 .
) Just because they told the kids that they might activate the web cam to find it does n't give them the right to do so .
If the activity is illegal , telling someone you are going to do it beforehand does n't make it legal .
IANAL , but this one sounds pretty shaky .
2. ) Even if they had the legitimate authority to use the web cam , once they realized that the laptop was in the hands of the right person , they would have been legally obliged to stop spying .
Any information they gleaned from that spying would have been inadmissible in court .
From the posting at that link it looks like the school is on a serious freakout powertrip .
Requiring the students to have one of these computers , requiring them to use them to the exclusion of all others and then spying on them periodically even if there was no report of the laptop being stolen .
The school board and school administration of that town should be burned to the ground with metaphorical salt sown in their professional fields .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone pointed out on another site, there are two big problems with the school's position: 1.
) Just because they told the kids that they might activate the web cam to find it doesn't give them the right to do so.
If the activity is illegal, telling someone you are going to do it beforehand doesn't make it legal.
IANAL, but this one sounds pretty shaky.
2.)Even if they had the legitimate authority to use the web cam, once they realized that the laptop was in the hands of the right person, they would have been legally obliged to stop spying.
Any information they gleaned from that spying would have been inadmissible in court.
From the posting at that link it looks like the school is on a serious freakout powertrip.
Requiring the students to have one of these computers, requiring them to use them to the exclusion of all others and then spying on them periodically even if there was no report of the laptop being stolen.
The school board and school administration of that town should be burned to the ground with metaphorical salt sown in their professional fields.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233298</id>
	<title>Whose candy was it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266868860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do we know for a fact that it was factory-branded Mike &amp; Ike's and not illegally copied or Chinese-bootlegged Mike &amp; Ike-like candy? There's still ample opportunity to tie this story into several other perpetual Slashdot themes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do we know for a fact that it was factory-branded Mike &amp; Ike 's and not illegally copied or Chinese-bootlegged Mike &amp; Ike-like candy ?
There 's still ample opportunity to tie this story into several other perpetual Slashdot themes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do we know for a fact that it was factory-branded Mike &amp; Ike's and not illegally copied or Chinese-bootlegged Mike &amp; Ike-like candy?
There's still ample opportunity to tie this story into several other perpetual Slashdot themes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233402</id>
	<title>The School is in Pensylvania</title>
	<author>number6x</author>
	<datestamp>1266869220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The School is in Pensylvania and Mike &amp; Ike's are made in Illinois. This is obviously a case of corporate funding in public schools gone awry! Hershey's will not allow the children of Pennsylvania to be poisened by the corn syrup generated candies of Illinois!

</p><p>They are just acting to protect our youth!

</p><p>Think of the children.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The School is in Pensylvania and Mike &amp; Ike 's are made in Illinois .
This is obviously a case of corporate funding in public schools gone awry !
Hershey 's will not allow the children of Pennsylvania to be poisened by the corn syrup generated candies of Illinois !
They are just acting to protect our youth !
Think of the children .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The School is in Pensylvania and Mike &amp; Ike's are made in Illinois.
This is obviously a case of corporate funding in public schools gone awry!
Hershey's will not allow the children of Pennsylvania to be poisened by the corn syrup generated candies of Illinois!
They are just acting to protect our youth!
Think of the children.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234010</id>
	<title>Better Yet</title>
	<author>Murdoch5</author>
	<datestamp>1266871260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not one of these students installed Linux on it lol</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not one of these students installed Linux on it lol</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not one of these students installed Linux on it lol</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238282</id>
	<title>Where's the child porn scare?</title>
	<author>HertzaHaeon</author>
	<datestamp>1266842700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The merest hint of child porn usually puts anyone involved in a world of shit. Why doesn't spying on kids this way bring out the think-of-the-children brigade? There's plenty of opportunity to turn it into a peep show for perverted school officials.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The merest hint of child porn usually puts anyone involved in a world of shit .
Why does n't spying on kids this way bring out the think-of-the-children brigade ?
There 's plenty of opportunity to turn it into a peep show for perverted school officials .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The merest hint of child porn usually puts anyone involved in a world of shit.
Why doesn't spying on kids this way bring out the think-of-the-children brigade?
There's plenty of opportunity to turn it into a peep show for perverted school officials.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233998</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>Sir\_Lewk</author>
	<datestamp>1266871260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently you've never seen any Mike and Ikes, they look about as much like prescription medications as hotwheel cars look like real cars.</p><p>Also, apparently you don't know what it was like being a kid in the 2000's.  If you think kids these days are not doing as hard or harder drugs than kids in the 60s and 70s then you are sorely mistaken.  Half of the crap in public schools didn't even exist back then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently you 've never seen any Mike and Ikes , they look about as much like prescription medications as hotwheel cars look like real cars.Also , apparently you do n't know what it was like being a kid in the 2000 's .
If you think kids these days are not doing as hard or harder drugs than kids in the 60s and 70s then you are sorely mistaken .
Half of the crap in public schools did n't even exist back then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently you've never seen any Mike and Ikes, they look about as much like prescription medications as hotwheel cars look like real cars.Also, apparently you don't know what it was like being a kid in the 2000's.
If you think kids these days are not doing as hard or harder drugs than kids in the 60s and 70s then you are sorely mistaken.
Half of the crap in public schools didn't even exist back then.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233296</id>
	<title>The Shamen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266868860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ikes are good! Ikes are good! Ikes are good!</p><p>Mike and Ikes are good!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ikes are good !
Ikes are good !
Ikes are good ! Mike and Ikes are good !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ikes are good!
Ikes are good!
Ikes are good!Mike and Ikes are good!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234238</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266871860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
This is one of the problems I have with the story: drugs taken legally are <i>medicine</i>... not only did the child have an expectation of privacy, but he's covered by some pretty heavy medical privacy laws to boot. Not sure how good the web cam images are, but the kid could have been taking any variety of medicines, vitamin E, flaxseed oil, etc. that are all very roughly the same size and shape as the candy. There were too many potential explanations for what the kid was doing, yet the administrator accuses him of drug abuse?
</p><p>
Is anyone even showing up for classes at the school? I woulda yanked my kid out of there in a heartbeat.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is one of the problems I have with the story : drugs taken legally are medicine... not only did the child have an expectation of privacy , but he 's covered by some pretty heavy medical privacy laws to boot .
Not sure how good the web cam images are , but the kid could have been taking any variety of medicines , vitamin E , flaxseed oil , etc .
that are all very roughly the same size and shape as the candy .
There were too many potential explanations for what the kid was doing , yet the administrator accuses him of drug abuse ?
Is anyone even showing up for classes at the school ?
I woulda yanked my kid out of there in a heartbeat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
This is one of the problems I have with the story: drugs taken legally are medicine... not only did the child have an expectation of privacy, but he's covered by some pretty heavy medical privacy laws to boot.
Not sure how good the web cam images are, but the kid could have been taking any variety of medicines, vitamin E, flaxseed oil, etc.
that are all very roughly the same size and shape as the candy.
There were too many potential explanations for what the kid was doing, yet the administrator accuses him of drug abuse?
Is anyone even showing up for classes at the school?
I woulda yanked my kid out of there in a heartbeat.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235028</id>
	<title>OMG This is better than fiction.</title>
	<author>stevegee58</author>
	<datestamp>1266831000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And it's way more interesting that Tiger Woods LOL.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And it 's way more interesting that Tiger Woods LOL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it's way more interesting that Tiger Woods LOL.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31237798</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>Urza9814</author>
	<datestamp>1266840120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently you don't know what it was like being a kid in the 00s.</p><p>As someone who was still in highschool (in Pennsylvania) only two years ago and who used several drugs and was friends with many people who used many drugs (including a few who have since been arrested, imprisoned, sent to mental hospitals, etc), pills aren't that popular. Sure, \_some\_ people do them - but even then I've never heard of anyone actually taking a pill. They crush it and snort it. It's cheaper that way. Most commonly though it's weed or cocaine or something along those lines. It's a cigarette or a powder. Or alcohol of course. Most people who used drugs while at school either snuck in alcohol or snorted the pills before getting there. And very rarely someone would either sneak out to there car to smoke or head to the bathroom to snort something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently you do n't know what it was like being a kid in the 00s.As someone who was still in highschool ( in Pennsylvania ) only two years ago and who used several drugs and was friends with many people who used many drugs ( including a few who have since been arrested , imprisoned , sent to mental hospitals , etc ) , pills are n't that popular .
Sure , \ _some \ _ people do them - but even then I 've never heard of anyone actually taking a pill .
They crush it and snort it .
It 's cheaper that way .
Most commonly though it 's weed or cocaine or something along those lines .
It 's a cigarette or a powder .
Or alcohol of course .
Most people who used drugs while at school either snuck in alcohol or snorted the pills before getting there .
And very rarely someone would either sneak out to there car to smoke or head to the bathroom to snort something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently you don't know what it was like being a kid in the 00s.As someone who was still in highschool (in Pennsylvania) only two years ago and who used several drugs and was friends with many people who used many drugs (including a few who have since been arrested, imprisoned, sent to mental hospitals, etc), pills aren't that popular.
Sure, \_some\_ people do them - but even then I've never heard of anyone actually taking a pill.
They crush it and snort it.
It's cheaper that way.
Most commonly though it's weed or cocaine or something along those lines.
It's a cigarette or a powder.
Or alcohol of course.
Most people who used drugs while at school either snuck in alcohol or snorted the pills before getting there.
And very rarely someone would either sneak out to there car to smoke or head to the bathroom to snort something.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233456</id>
	<title>Re:Underwear, check; broomstick, check; noose, che</title>
	<author>Thud457</author>
	<datestamp>1266869340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>holey crap, for a school that's only been around for 20 years, they've got a remarkable number of fucked up incidents</htmltext>
<tokenext>holey crap , for a school that 's only been around for 20 years , they 've got a remarkable number of fucked up incidents</tokentext>
<sentencetext>holey crap, for a school that's only been around for 20 years, they've got a remarkable number of fucked up incidents</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31240050</id>
	<title>FBI wants the keys</title>
	<author>DVD9</author>
	<datestamp>1266853740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The FBI does not want to prosecute the administrators, they want access so they can catch the kids downloading movies and send them to Federal prison.
--</htmltext>
<tokenext>The FBI does not want to prosecute the administrators , they want access so they can catch the kids downloading movies and send them to Federal prison .
--</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The FBI does not want to prosecute the administrators, they want access so they can catch the kids downloading movies and send them to Federal prison.
--</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234384</id>
	<title>Anybody else craving Mike and Ikes now?</title>
	<author>galadriel</author>
	<datestamp>1266872280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There has to be a way for Mike and Ikes to prybar this into an ad campaign.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There has to be a way for Mike and Ikes to prybar this into an ad campaign .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There has to be a way for Mike and Ikes to prybar this into an ad campaign.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234566</id>
	<title>Re:More info on Network Adminsistrator.</title>
	<author>orkim</author>
	<datestamp>1266829560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously 'Mike Perbix' was upset that a student was eating/using 'Mike And Ikes' and Mr. Perbix was not getting a fair licensing deal for using his name sake.</p><p>This should be resolved as soon as the likeness licensing is settled.  I predict a large payout for Mr. Perbix.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously 'Mike Perbix ' was upset that a student was eating/using 'Mike And Ikes ' and Mr. Perbix was not getting a fair licensing deal for using his name sake.This should be resolved as soon as the likeness licensing is settled .
I predict a large payout for Mr. Perbix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously 'Mike Perbix' was upset that a student was eating/using 'Mike And Ikes' and Mr. Perbix was not getting a fair licensing deal for using his name sake.This should be resolved as soon as the likeness licensing is settled.
I predict a large payout for Mr. Perbix.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238094</id>
	<title>Re:where are the police?</title>
	<author>galadriel</author>
	<datestamp>1266841620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The FBI *is* involved.  Even if you missed the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. post the first time around, it's one of the related links under THIS post.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The FBI * is * involved .
Even if you missed the / .
post the first time around , it 's one of the related links under THIS post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The FBI *is* involved.
Even if you missed the /.
post the first time around, it's one of the related links under THIS post.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236082</id>
	<title>Re:SEE I TOLD YOU WE NEED ANARCHY</title>
	<author>slimjim8094</author>
	<datestamp>1266834120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you're not going anywhere. I just built a cage, and I'm putting you in it. Oh, and I'll take all your food, money, and house while I'm at it. And you're girlfriend, she's hot. I think I'll rape her - why should I care what she thinks about it?</p><p>Now what are you going to do?</p><p>--</p><p>Look, shit like this sucks. It's terrible, but the courts look ready to lay down the smackdown. But only a fool would suggest anarchy. I don't care about your 'credentials', you sound like you're 12. And I might humbly suggest that education is different than intelligence and wisdom, which is what's at issue here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you 're not going anywhere .
I just built a cage , and I 'm putting you in it .
Oh , and I 'll take all your food , money , and house while I 'm at it .
And you 're girlfriend , she 's hot .
I think I 'll rape her - why should I care what she thinks about it ? Now what are you going to do ? --Look , shit like this sucks .
It 's terrible , but the courts look ready to lay down the smackdown .
But only a fool would suggest anarchy .
I do n't care about your 'credentials ' , you sound like you 're 12 .
And I might humbly suggest that education is different than intelligence and wisdom , which is what 's at issue here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you're not going anywhere.
I just built a cage, and I'm putting you in it.
Oh, and I'll take all your food, money, and house while I'm at it.
And you're girlfriend, she's hot.
I think I'll rape her - why should I care what she thinks about it?Now what are you going to do?--Look, shit like this sucks.
It's terrible, but the courts look ready to lay down the smackdown.
But only a fool would suggest anarchy.
I don't care about your 'credentials', you sound like you're 12.
And I might humbly suggest that education is different than intelligence and wisdom, which is what's at issue here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233466</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266869400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really? Because the actual horse pills I have seen are the size of a roll of nickles.  I don't remember Mike &amp; Ikes being that big.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
Because the actual horse pills I have seen are the size of a roll of nickles .
I do n't remember Mike &amp; Ikes being that big .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
Because the actual horse pills I have seen are the size of a roll of nickles.
I don't remember Mike &amp; Ikes being that big.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234778</id>
	<title>Re:Chain of evidence</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1266830220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hmmm, let me bust out photoshop or the Gimp, next thing you know your screwing a goat on your desk.</p></div><p>You're missing the truly fun part, which is inserting "interesting" images into the stream, then letting them use the legal system to entrap and destroy themselves.</p><p>This could be extremely profitable... Makes me wish I was still in school...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm , let me bust out photoshop or the Gimp , next thing you know your screwing a goat on your desk.You 're missing the truly fun part , which is inserting " interesting " images into the stream , then letting them use the legal system to entrap and destroy themselves.This could be extremely profitable... Makes me wish I was still in school.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm, let me bust out photoshop or the Gimp, next thing you know your screwing a goat on your desk.You're missing the truly fun part, which is inserting "interesting" images into the stream, then letting them use the legal system to entrap and destroy themselves.This could be extremely profitable... Makes me wish I was still in school...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238960</id>
	<title>Kiddie porn charges.</title>
	<author>Stephen Samuel</author>
	<datestamp>1266846840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Consider (again) the following, completely predictable, scenarios for pictures
captured of students who think that they're in the privacy of their own
bedrooms.
<ul>
<li> A student walking around their room Naked (straight out of the shower,
changing, and/or just not worried about being seen by anybody else)</li>
<li>A student making out with their boy/girlfriend.</li>
<li>A student masturbating.</li>
<li>etc., etc., etc.</li>
</ul><p>
Now, consider that you're talking about high-school students -- almost
all of whom are going to be under the age of 18.


All of a sudden, you're out of the realm of a simple class action
lawsuit, and looking at a charges of 'Creation, Possession, and
possibly even distribution, of Kiddie Porn'. . . .
</p><p>
Now, that may not do much more than garner some more interesting headlines, but
if you throw in counseling charges against the high-level managers who
concieved of, OKed or mandated this stupid idea, I expect that anyplace
where a similar plan is in place, the  programs will be suddenly stopped. -- and to be honest, I'm more interested in getting this stupidity shut down <i>now</i> than I am in starting  a witch-hunt against stupid school administrators.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Consider ( again ) the following , completely predictable , scenarios for pictures captured of students who think that they 're in the privacy of their own bedrooms .
A student walking around their room Naked ( straight out of the shower , changing , and/or just not worried about being seen by anybody else ) A student making out with their boy/girlfriend .
A student masturbating .
etc. , etc. , etc .
Now , consider that you 're talking about high-school students -- almost all of whom are going to be under the age of 18 .
All of a sudden , you 're out of the realm of a simple class action lawsuit , and looking at a charges of 'Creation , Possession , and possibly even distribution , of Kiddie Porn' .
. .
. Now , that may not do much more than garner some more interesting headlines , but if you throw in counseling charges against the high-level managers who concieved of , OKed or mandated this stupid idea , I expect that anyplace where a similar plan is in place , the programs will be suddenly stopped .
-- and to be honest , I 'm more interested in getting this stupidity shut down now than I am in starting a witch-hunt against stupid school administrators .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consider (again) the following, completely predictable, scenarios for pictures
captured of students who think that they're in the privacy of their own
bedrooms.
A student walking around their room Naked (straight out of the shower,
changing, and/or just not worried about being seen by anybody else)
A student making out with their boy/girlfriend.
A student masturbating.
etc., etc., etc.
Now, consider that you're talking about high-school students -- almost
all of whom are going to be under the age of 18.
All of a sudden, you're out of the realm of a simple class action
lawsuit, and looking at a charges of 'Creation, Possession, and
possibly even distribution, of Kiddie Porn'.
. .
.

Now, that may not do much more than garner some more interesting headlines, but
if you throw in counseling charges against the high-level managers who
concieved of, OKed or mandated this stupid idea, I expect that anyplace
where a similar plan is in place, the  programs will be suddenly stopped.
-- and to be honest, I'm more interested in getting this stupidity shut down now than I am in starting  a witch-hunt against stupid school administrators.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31245118</id>
	<title>Re:To be fair</title>
	<author>WildBlueYonder</author>
	<datestamp>1266944100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They could have caught him cutting open his little sister for all I care.</p><p>The school claims the system was only used to locate stolen laptops. If the kid's laptop had indeed been reported as stolen to the school, all 'bad things' that it caught (like him masturbating) isn't the school's fault.</p><p>If it HADN'T been reported stolen, then they have no 'get out of jail free card' on seeing him cutting open his little sister. They're still guilty of illegal wire tapping and if they've done it once, it really should be up to them to prove, no-one has been using the system to spy on people.</p></div><p>Actually it seems like even if the laptop had been stolen spying on the thief would still be unconstitutional. They should have to report the theft to the police and tell them the laptop has that capability, the police would then get a warrant and use the camera. Of course using it in an actual theft scenario is far less immoral than how it was used here, and would still get you the laptop back, but it seems like the evidence gathered by school district with the laptop camera wouldn't be admissible in court.</p><p>Some of the newer Anti-theft measures from professional companies work like this, where the owners of the computer don't have the ability to do the computer traces, the police have to contact the company directly. That is how the program-maker's newer programs work, and they are <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9160278/Software\_maker\_blasts\_vigilantism\_in\_Pa.\_school\_spying\_case" title="computerworld.com" rel="nofollow"> patching this error out</a> [computerworld.com] of the older program used by this school district.</p><p>For the car analogy, if your car with OnStar is stolen the police can contact OnStar and request that they kill the engine. The dealership that you bought the car from does not have the ability to kill the engine if you are late on your payments, or for any other reason.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They could have caught him cutting open his little sister for all I care.The school claims the system was only used to locate stolen laptops .
If the kid 's laptop had indeed been reported as stolen to the school , all 'bad things ' that it caught ( like him masturbating ) is n't the school 's fault.If it HAD N'T been reported stolen , then they have no 'get out of jail free card ' on seeing him cutting open his little sister .
They 're still guilty of illegal wire tapping and if they 've done it once , it really should be up to them to prove , no-one has been using the system to spy on people.Actually it seems like even if the laptop had been stolen spying on the thief would still be unconstitutional .
They should have to report the theft to the police and tell them the laptop has that capability , the police would then get a warrant and use the camera .
Of course using it in an actual theft scenario is far less immoral than how it was used here , and would still get you the laptop back , but it seems like the evidence gathered by school district with the laptop camera would n't be admissible in court.Some of the newer Anti-theft measures from professional companies work like this , where the owners of the computer do n't have the ability to do the computer traces , the police have to contact the company directly .
That is how the program-maker 's newer programs work , and they are patching this error out [ computerworld.com ] of the older program used by this school district.For the car analogy , if your car with OnStar is stolen the police can contact OnStar and request that they kill the engine .
The dealership that you bought the car from does not have the ability to kill the engine if you are late on your payments , or for any other reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They could have caught him cutting open his little sister for all I care.The school claims the system was only used to locate stolen laptops.
If the kid's laptop had indeed been reported as stolen to the school, all 'bad things' that it caught (like him masturbating) isn't the school's fault.If it HADN'T been reported stolen, then they have no 'get out of jail free card' on seeing him cutting open his little sister.
They're still guilty of illegal wire tapping and if they've done it once, it really should be up to them to prove, no-one has been using the system to spy on people.Actually it seems like even if the laptop had been stolen spying on the thief would still be unconstitutional.
They should have to report the theft to the police and tell them the laptop has that capability, the police would then get a warrant and use the camera.
Of course using it in an actual theft scenario is far less immoral than how it was used here, and would still get you the laptop back, but it seems like the evidence gathered by school district with the laptop camera wouldn't be admissible in court.Some of the newer Anti-theft measures from professional companies work like this, where the owners of the computer don't have the ability to do the computer traces, the police have to contact the company directly.
That is how the program-maker's newer programs work, and they are  patching this error out [computerworld.com] of the older program used by this school district.For the car analogy, if your car with OnStar is stolen the police can contact OnStar and request that they kill the engine.
The dealership that you bought the car from does not have the ability to kill the engine if you are late on your payments, or for any other reason.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236196</id>
	<title>Re:The Crazy loop.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266834480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just because their families are poor or uneducated does not mean these are the kids causing trouble, you elitist punk. MY family was poor and before me, only my father had a high school diploma. I am the first in my family to get a degree (two actually). When I was in school (70's and 80's), it was the spoiled, rich brats causing the most problems. So, you can shove your "cycle of poverty" crap. I've got 5 siblings. None of us are on welfare (hell, I probably make twice what you do), nor are our kids causing trouble in school. You rich preps tick me off. Mommy and daddy didn't spend enough on the car they bought you?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just because their families are poor or uneducated does not mean these are the kids causing trouble , you elitist punk .
MY family was poor and before me , only my father had a high school diploma .
I am the first in my family to get a degree ( two actually ) .
When I was in school ( 70 's and 80 's ) , it was the spoiled , rich brats causing the most problems .
So , you can shove your " cycle of poverty " crap .
I 've got 5 siblings .
None of us are on welfare ( hell , I probably make twice what you do ) , nor are our kids causing trouble in school .
You rich preps tick me off .
Mommy and daddy did n't spend enough on the car they bought you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just because their families are poor or uneducated does not mean these are the kids causing trouble, you elitist punk.
MY family was poor and before me, only my father had a high school diploma.
I am the first in my family to get a degree (two actually).
When I was in school (70's and 80's), it was the spoiled, rich brats causing the most problems.
So, you can shove your "cycle of poverty" crap.
I've got 5 siblings.
None of us are on welfare (hell, I probably make twice what you do), nor are our kids causing trouble in school.
You rich preps tick me off.
Mommy and daddy didn't spend enough on the car they bought you?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233556</id>
	<title>That's how we roll in Philly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266869640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"particularly bad job of actually managing the events" is how we do it.</p><p>IE, see last summer's racial incident at the hunnington valley swim club when black kids were invited, then banned from the pool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" particularly bad job of actually managing the events " is how we do it.IE , see last summer 's racial incident at the hunnington valley swim club when black kids were invited , then banned from the pool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"particularly bad job of actually managing the events" is how we do it.IE, see last summer's racial incident at the hunnington valley swim club when black kids were invited, then banned from the pool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233186</id>
	<title>Ugh.</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1266868500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah...because Mike &amp; Ikes look just like illicit drugs.  Completely ignoring the privacy aspect of this story, a school official mistaking freakin' Mike &amp; Ikes for drugs is beyond comprehension.</p><p><a href="http://www.illinoisnut.com/products/mainLarge\_1028200752854pm.jpg" title="illinoisnut.com">http://www.illinoisnut.com/products/mainLarge\_1028200752854pm.jpg</a> [illinoisnut.com]</p><p>That looks quite unlike any drug I've ever heard of or seen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah...because Mike &amp; Ikes look just like illicit drugs .
Completely ignoring the privacy aspect of this story , a school official mistaking freakin ' Mike &amp; Ikes for drugs is beyond comprehension.http : //www.illinoisnut.com/products/mainLarge \ _1028200752854pm.jpg [ illinoisnut.com ] That looks quite unlike any drug I 've ever heard of or seen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah...because Mike &amp; Ikes look just like illicit drugs.
Completely ignoring the privacy aspect of this story, a school official mistaking freakin' Mike &amp; Ikes for drugs is beyond comprehension.http://www.illinoisnut.com/products/mainLarge\_1028200752854pm.jpg [illinoisnut.com]That looks quite unlike any drug I've ever heard of or seen.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31239174</id>
	<title>Re:webcams with a lid</title>
	<author>Stephen Samuel</author>
	<datestamp>1266847920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It makes sense to produce a web-cam with a lid. A piece of paper and scotch tape could be used on older web-cams.</p></div><p>A lid on the webcam would defeat theoriginal  stated excuse for having this setup (figuring out who has a stolen web-cam). That having been said, there was a long-time-ago article about Flash apps being able to turn on a web cam without user intervention (a 'feature' which then, apparently, had fail-safes added to it).<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but <b>any</b> (pre)installed binary will be able to do this without such failsafes.
</p><p>
so the long answer is that lids on web-cams are a good failsafe to have on <b>any</b> such device even though they would have defeated the stated intent of this (clearly illegal) spying program.  Hardware disables on built-in microphones would also be a good privacy guard.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It makes sense to produce a web-cam with a lid .
A piece of paper and scotch tape could be used on older web-cams.A lid on the webcam would defeat theoriginal stated excuse for having this setup ( figuring out who has a stolen web-cam ) .
That having been said , there was a long-time-ago article about Flash apps being able to turn on a web cam without user intervention ( a 'feature ' which then , apparently , had fail-safes added to it ) .
... but any ( pre ) installed binary will be able to do this without such failsafes .
so the long answer is that lids on web-cams are a good failsafe to have on any such device even though they would have defeated the stated intent of this ( clearly illegal ) spying program .
Hardware disables on built-in microphones would also be a good privacy guard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It makes sense to produce a web-cam with a lid.
A piece of paper and scotch tape could be used on older web-cams.A lid on the webcam would defeat theoriginal  stated excuse for having this setup (figuring out who has a stolen web-cam).
That having been said, there was a long-time-ago article about Flash apps being able to turn on a web cam without user intervention (a 'feature' which then, apparently, had fail-safes added to it).
... but any (pre)installed binary will be able to do this without such failsafes.
so the long answer is that lids on web-cams are a good failsafe to have on any such device even though they would have defeated the stated intent of this (clearly illegal) spying program.
Hardware disables on built-in microphones would also be a good privacy guard.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235400</id>
	<title>Mike and Ike, Dangerous Gateway Drugs....</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1266832080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hear kids that start on Mike and Ike usually graduate to more powerful drugs like Hot Tamales which legends says are imported via Mexican confectionery cartels.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear kids that start on Mike and Ike usually graduate to more powerful drugs like Hot Tamales which legends says are imported via Mexican confectionery cartels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear kids that start on Mike and Ike usually graduate to more powerful drugs like Hot Tamales which legends says are imported via Mexican confectionery cartels.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234184</id>
	<title>Re:Still can't,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266871680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Somebody from the IT department sold the school board on this. And the school board claims that only two people in the IT department had access to activate the security software.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somebody from the IT department sold the school board on this .
And the school board claims that only two people in the IT department had access to activate the security software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somebody from the IT department sold the school board on this.
And the school board claims that only two people in the IT department had access to activate the security software.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235722</id>
	<title>Re:More info on Network Adminsistrator.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266833040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there any way to unblur this guy's IP/DNS from the vid? Would be quite funny to see the software used to spy on these kids used to leak his IP/DNS to the slashdot nation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there any way to unblur this guy 's IP/DNS from the vid ?
Would be quite funny to see the software used to spy on these kids used to leak his IP/DNS to the slashdot nation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there any way to unblur this guy's IP/DNS from the vid?
Would be quite funny to see the software used to spy on these kids used to leak his IP/DNS to the slashdot nation.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235320</id>
	<title>Re:Still can't,</title>
	<author>Maestro4k</author>
	<datestamp>1266831840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Somebody from the IT department sold the school board on this. And the school board claims that only two people in the IT department had access to activate the security software.</p></div><p>And apparently <a href="http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html" title="blogspot.com">this guy</a> [blogspot.com] is the one who did so, at the very least he's a very, very avid fan of the software, and finds many of the really creepy features appealing.  You can find a link to the guy's actual blog from that article too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somebody from the IT department sold the school board on this .
And the school board claims that only two people in the IT department had access to activate the security software.And apparently this guy [ blogspot.com ] is the one who did so , at the very least he 's a very , very avid fan of the software , and finds many of the really creepy features appealing .
You can find a link to the guy 's actual blog from that article too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somebody from the IT department sold the school board on this.
And the school board claims that only two people in the IT department had access to activate the security software.And apparently this guy [blogspot.com] is the one who did so, at the very least he's a very, very avid fan of the software, and finds many of the really creepy features appealing.
You can find a link to the guy's actual blog from that article too.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234898</id>
	<title>Taking drugs is no reason to ruin someone's life</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266830580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm growing more and more tired of this country's retarded drug laws. Since when should it be ANYONE's business what someone chooses to put into their own body? It's not as if it's doing other people any harm.</p><p>The only reason there's a culture of crime surrounding these substances is the same reason for the culture of crime surrounding alcohol during the prohibition, i.e. the inability for anyone to acquire the drug legally or reliably. The laws themselves are the cause of the very phenomena lawyers use to justify their existence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm growing more and more tired of this country 's retarded drug laws .
Since when should it be ANYONE 's business what someone chooses to put into their own body ?
It 's not as if it 's doing other people any harm.The only reason there 's a culture of crime surrounding these substances is the same reason for the culture of crime surrounding alcohol during the prohibition , i.e .
the inability for anyone to acquire the drug legally or reliably .
The laws themselves are the cause of the very phenomena lawyers use to justify their existence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm growing more and more tired of this country's retarded drug laws.
Since when should it be ANYONE's business what someone chooses to put into their own body?
It's not as if it's doing other people any harm.The only reason there's a culture of crime surrounding these substances is the same reason for the culture of crime surrounding alcohol during the prohibition, i.e.
the inability for anyone to acquire the drug legally or reliably.
The laws themselves are the cause of the very phenomena lawyers use to justify their existence.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233896</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>Knara</author>
	<datestamp>1266870900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except in this case if Rx drug abuse was the claim, the school wouldn't have any idea if the pills were legit or not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except in this case if Rx drug abuse was the claim , the school would n't have any idea if the pills were legit or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except in this case if Rx drug abuse was the claim, the school wouldn't have any idea if the pills were legit or not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234034</id>
	<title>Not sure if I should laugh or cry...</title>
	<author>denzacar</author>
	<datestamp>1266871320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the link above: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHu92imqJec" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHu92imqJec</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>Basically, all laptops were set to switch to "stolen mode" as soon as they get online from anywhere outside the school['s network].<br>And then they start sending screenshots, camera shots and DNS and IP info on regular basis.</p><p>Apparently, their IT God thought nothing about setting up the laptops kids will be taking home so their home network is considered safe.<br>Also, their School's Resident High Inquisitor thought that since the "stolen mode" is on, that means that spying on kids is fair game.</p><p>Brilliant examples of stupidity. Simply brilliant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the link above : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = hHu92imqJec [ youtube.com ] Basically , all laptops were set to switch to " stolen mode " as soon as they get online from anywhere outside the school [ 's network ] .And then they start sending screenshots , camera shots and DNS and IP info on regular basis.Apparently , their IT God thought nothing about setting up the laptops kids will be taking home so their home network is considered safe.Also , their School 's Resident High Inquisitor thought that since the " stolen mode " is on , that means that spying on kids is fair game.Brilliant examples of stupidity .
Simply brilliant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the link above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHu92imqJec [youtube.com]Basically, all laptops were set to switch to "stolen mode" as soon as they get online from anywhere outside the school['s network].And then they start sending screenshots, camera shots and DNS and IP info on regular basis.Apparently, their IT God thought nothing about setting up the laptops kids will be taking home so their home network is considered safe.Also, their School's Resident High Inquisitor thought that since the "stolen mode" is on, that means that spying on kids is fair game.Brilliant examples of stupidity.
Simply brilliant.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233452</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238202</id>
	<title>The Dudes Mom ...</title>
	<author>hduff</author>
	<datestamp>1266842220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... said in a CNN interview today that he was 'addicted' to Mike &amp; Ike candy, making it just another CNN "addicted to" story.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... said in a CNN interview today that he was 'addicted ' to Mike &amp; Ike candy , making it just another CNN " addicted to " story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... said in a CNN interview today that he was 'addicted' to Mike &amp; Ike candy, making it just another CNN "addicted to" story.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233736</id>
	<title>Only in america...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266870360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hahahahha.. this is my first post ever on Slashdot.</p><p>Just had to say, some of you americans are totally insane, and this case really proves it. I just shock my head in disbelief.</p><p>Anon coward from Norway</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hahahahha.. this is my first post ever on Slashdot.Just had to say , some of you americans are totally insane , and this case really proves it .
I just shock my head in disbelief.Anon coward from Norway</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hahahahha.. this is my first post ever on Slashdot.Just had to say, some of you americans are totally insane, and this case really proves it.
I just shock my head in disbelief.Anon coward from Norway</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234274</id>
	<title>Re:More info on Network Adminsistrator.</title>
	<author>magus\_melchior</author>
	<datestamp>1266871980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>With some of my colleagues, I began a reverse engineering effort against LANRev in order to determine the nature of the threat and possible countermeasures. Some of the things we found at first left us aghast as security pros: the spyware "client" (they call it an agent) binds to the server permanently without using authentication or key distribution. Find an unbound agent on your network with Bonjour, click on it, you own it. The server software, with an externally facing Internet port... runs as root. I'm not kidding.</p></div></blockquote><p>So his little spyware server is also a reverse rootkit for the district servers. If he didn't update the server software in a hurry, that is an incredible invitation for hackers, like leaving an unfirewalled Windows PC directly connected to the Internet.</p><p>He's also inviting possibly ticked-off students to take revenge on school servers. I think he'll be out of a job unless he <i>really</i> sweet-talks the board.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>With some of my colleagues , I began a reverse engineering effort against LANRev in order to determine the nature of the threat and possible countermeasures .
Some of the things we found at first left us aghast as security pros : the spyware " client " ( they call it an agent ) binds to the server permanently without using authentication or key distribution .
Find an unbound agent on your network with Bonjour , click on it , you own it .
The server software , with an externally facing Internet port... runs as root .
I 'm not kidding.So his little spyware server is also a reverse rootkit for the district servers .
If he did n't update the server software in a hurry , that is an incredible invitation for hackers , like leaving an unfirewalled Windows PC directly connected to the Internet.He 's also inviting possibly ticked-off students to take revenge on school servers .
I think he 'll be out of a job unless he really sweet-talks the board .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With some of my colleagues, I began a reverse engineering effort against LANRev in order to determine the nature of the threat and possible countermeasures.
Some of the things we found at first left us aghast as security pros: the spyware "client" (they call it an agent) binds to the server permanently without using authentication or key distribution.
Find an unbound agent on your network with Bonjour, click on it, you own it.
The server software, with an externally facing Internet port... runs as root.
I'm not kidding.So his little spyware server is also a reverse rootkit for the district servers.
If he didn't update the server software in a hurry, that is an incredible invitation for hackers, like leaving an unfirewalled Windows PC directly connected to the Internet.He's also inviting possibly ticked-off students to take revenge on school servers.
I think he'll be out of a job unless he really sweet-talks the board.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233452</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31239876</id>
	<title>Is that even legal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266852540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"The school claims the system was only used to locate stolen laptops."</i> <br> <br>Is that even legal?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The school claims the system was only used to locate stolen laptops .
" Is that even legal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The school claims the system was only used to locate stolen laptops.
"  Is that even legal?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233384</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31241068</id>
	<title>It's a good thing........</title>
	<author>dogzdik</author>
	<datestamp>1266863400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a good thing that he didn't have his hand around his cock, and was masturbating....... in his own bedroom.... just as they happened to turn the "secret spy cam on"...
<p>-</p><p>
Because then according to the sleazy shit heads in the schools administration, he would have been performing an indecent act - which really would have been "proper grounds" for suspension; or would that just another cover story for making their own child porn and getting sprung for it.
</p><p>-</p><p>

Arseholes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a good thing that he did n't have his hand around his cock , and was masturbating....... in his own bedroom.... just as they happened to turn the " secret spy cam on " .. . - Because then according to the sleazy shit heads in the schools administration , he would have been performing an indecent act - which really would have been " proper grounds " for suspension ; or would that just another cover story for making their own child porn and getting sprung for it .
- Arseholes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a good thing that he didn't have his hand around his cock, and was masturbating....... in his own bedroom.... just as they happened to turn the "secret spy cam on"...
-
Because then according to the sleazy shit heads in the schools administration, he would have been performing an indecent act - which really would have been "proper grounds" for suspension; or would that just another cover story for making their own child porn and getting sprung for it.
-

Arseholes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236384</id>
	<title>Doesn't add up</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1266835140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's something we're not being told here. <br> <br>
It seems unlikely that the school would have the ability to spy on people like this.  It's ludicrous to think that they would.  Teachers have better things to do with their time than watch hundreds of kids who might be doing something wrong, and they'd have to be complete idiots not to realise the potential for child porn allegations.  <br> <br>
The complaints are all from the plaintiffs who may be making completely unwarranted assumptions.  These are just complaints.  Not findings of fact.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's something we 're not being told here .
It seems unlikely that the school would have the ability to spy on people like this .
It 's ludicrous to think that they would .
Teachers have better things to do with their time than watch hundreds of kids who might be doing something wrong , and they 'd have to be complete idiots not to realise the potential for child porn allegations .
The complaints are all from the plaintiffs who may be making completely unwarranted assumptions .
These are just complaints .
Not findings of fact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's something we're not being told here.
It seems unlikely that the school would have the ability to spy on people like this.
It's ludicrous to think that they would.
Teachers have better things to do with their time than watch hundreds of kids who might be doing something wrong, and they'd have to be complete idiots not to realise the potential for child porn allegations.
The complaints are all from the plaintiffs who may be making completely unwarranted assumptions.
These are just complaints.
Not findings of fact.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234364</id>
	<title>Re:More info on Network Adminsistrator.</title>
	<author>hansamurai</author>
	<datestamp>1266872220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some of those testimonials are very revealing about how the school district abused the webcam:</p><blockquote><div><p>"Hi, I'm a 2009 Graduate of Harriton Highschool. [...] I and a few of my fellow peers were suspicious of this sort of activity when we first received the laptops. <b>The light next to the web cam would randomly come on, whether we were in class, in study hall or at home minding our own business.</b> We reported it multiple times, each time getting the response: "It's only a malfunction. if you'd like we'll look into it and give you a loaner computer."</p><p>"The webcam couldn't be disabled due through tough tough security settings. <b>Occasionally we would notice that the green light was on from time to time</b> but we just figured that it was glitching out as some macbooks do sometimes. Some few covered it up with tape and post its because they thought the IT guys were watching them. I always thought they were crazy and that the district, one of the more respectable ones within the state, would never pull some shit like this. I guess I was wrong."</p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some of those testimonials are very revealing about how the school district abused the webcam : " Hi , I 'm a 2009 Graduate of Harriton Highschool .
[ ... ] I and a few of my fellow peers were suspicious of this sort of activity when we first received the laptops .
The light next to the web cam would randomly come on , whether we were in class , in study hall or at home minding our own business .
We reported it multiple times , each time getting the response : " It 's only a malfunction .
if you 'd like we 'll look into it and give you a loaner computer .
" " The webcam could n't be disabled due through tough tough security settings .
Occasionally we would notice that the green light was on from time to time but we just figured that it was glitching out as some macbooks do sometimes .
Some few covered it up with tape and post its because they thought the IT guys were watching them .
I always thought they were crazy and that the district , one of the more respectable ones within the state , would never pull some shit like this .
I guess I was wrong .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some of those testimonials are very revealing about how the school district abused the webcam:"Hi, I'm a 2009 Graduate of Harriton Highschool.
[...] I and a few of my fellow peers were suspicious of this sort of activity when we first received the laptops.
The light next to the web cam would randomly come on, whether we were in class, in study hall or at home minding our own business.
We reported it multiple times, each time getting the response: "It's only a malfunction.
if you'd like we'll look into it and give you a loaner computer.
""The webcam couldn't be disabled due through tough tough security settings.
Occasionally we would notice that the green light was on from time to time but we just figured that it was glitching out as some macbooks do sometimes.
Some few covered it up with tape and post its because they thought the IT guys were watching them.
I always thought they were crazy and that the district, one of the more respectable ones within the state, would never pull some shit like this.
I guess I was wrong.
" 
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233210</id>
	<title>To be fair</title>
	<author>jeff4747</author>
	<datestamp>1266868620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, the "Mike &amp; Ike" claim was made by the kid.  And he might be lying.</p><p>But the entire "what exactly was the kid doing" tangent is really just an attempt to justify the school's bad behavior.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , the " Mike &amp; Ike " claim was made by the kid .
And he might be lying.But the entire " what exactly was the kid doing " tangent is really just an attempt to justify the school 's bad behavior .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, the "Mike &amp; Ike" claim was made by the kid.
And he might be lying.But the entire "what exactly was the kid doing" tangent is really just an attempt to justify the school's bad behavior.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238176</id>
	<title>Re:More info on Network Adminsistrator.</title>
	<author>LordLimecat</author>
	<datestamp>1266842100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Give me some duct tape and ill disable it for you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Give me some duct tape and ill disable it for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give me some duct tape and ill disable it for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234364</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233432</id>
	<title>Re:To be fair</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266869280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The kid needs to shut his mouth they have a slam dunk case anything he says can only hurt his case.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The kid needs to shut his mouth they have a slam dunk case anything he says can only hurt his case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The kid needs to shut his mouth they have a slam dunk case anything he says can only hurt his case.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234622</id>
	<title>Treason.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266829740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The asshats that thought this was a good / acceptable use of the equipment in question should be publicly executed for treason.</p><p>No, I am not joking.</p><p>And everyone involved in the warrant-less wiretapping should be right beside them. EVERYONE.</p><p>It's about time we, as a public, institute a zero-tolerance policy of our own and start defending our rights as citizens of a "free" (har har!) country.</p><p>These people deserve nothing less than a slow, painful, public hanging.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The asshats that thought this was a good / acceptable use of the equipment in question should be publicly executed for treason.No , I am not joking.And everyone involved in the warrant-less wiretapping should be right beside them .
EVERYONE.It 's about time we , as a public , institute a zero-tolerance policy of our own and start defending our rights as citizens of a " free " ( har har !
) country.These people deserve nothing less than a slow , painful , public hanging .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The asshats that thought this was a good / acceptable use of the equipment in question should be publicly executed for treason.No, I am not joking.And everyone involved in the warrant-less wiretapping should be right beside them.
EVERYONE.It's about time we, as a public, institute a zero-tolerance policy of our own and start defending our rights as citizens of a "free" (har har!
) country.These people deserve nothing less than a slow, painful, public hanging.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236900</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266836580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mike &amp; Ike candy sales skyrocket...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mike &amp; Ike candy sales skyrocket.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mike &amp; Ike candy sales skyrocket...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31240216</id>
	<title>Re:Still can't,</title>
	<author>DVD9</author>
	<datestamp>1266855360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They should have grabbed his hard drive. Probably has gigs of child p**n on it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They should have grabbed his hard drive .
Probably has gigs of child p * * n on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should have grabbed his hard drive.
Probably has gigs of child p**n on it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235320</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233220</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266868620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>mike &amp; ikes are the size of friggin horse pills.  I know for a fact i wouldnt want to swallow one of those whole.</htmltext>
<tokenext>mike &amp; ikes are the size of friggin horse pills .
I know for a fact i wouldnt want to swallow one of those whole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mike &amp; ikes are the size of friggin horse pills.
I know for a fact i wouldnt want to swallow one of those whole.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233186</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233614</id>
	<title>And now I'll be suing for injuries</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266869820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just facepalmed so hard that I think I broke something. The school will be hearing from my lawyers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just facepalmed so hard that I think I broke something .
The school will be hearing from my lawyers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just facepalmed so hard that I think I broke something.
The school will be hearing from my lawyers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238782</id>
	<title>Re:Still can't,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266845700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You work for Dekalb Co. Schools too?!?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You work for Dekalb Co. Schools too ? ! ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You work for Dekalb Co. Schools too?!?
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235182</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234488</id>
	<title>Re:Wait..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266829380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a webcast that describes this security feature.  It is described as deploying automatically whenever the the machine leaves the home Lan.  Thus ANYTIME the student brings the computer home, the computer is reporting itself as 'stolen' and taking screen and webcam shots every 30 secs.</p><p>http://webcast.macenterprise.org/2008Webcasts/2008-05-20-LANrev-Webcast.zip</p><p>35:30</p><p>It is then up to the sysadmin to decide which reports to take seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a webcast that describes this security feature .
It is described as deploying automatically whenever the the machine leaves the home Lan .
Thus ANYTIME the student brings the computer home , the computer is reporting itself as 'stolen ' and taking screen and webcam shots every 30 secs.http : //webcast.macenterprise.org/2008Webcasts/2008-05-20-LANrev-Webcast.zip35 : 30It is then up to the sysadmin to decide which reports to take seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a webcast that describes this security feature.
It is described as deploying automatically whenever the the machine leaves the home Lan.
Thus ANYTIME the student brings the computer home, the computer is reporting itself as 'stolen' and taking screen and webcam shots every 30 secs.http://webcast.macenterprise.org/2008Webcasts/2008-05-20-LANrev-Webcast.zip35:30It is then up to the sysadmin to decide which reports to take seriously.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235360</id>
	<title>Child Pr0n</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1266832020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did everyone miss the fact they sent the videos apaprently to a third party for a review of content? So if there is anything that could be considered pr0n do they SOBs go to jail for distribution of child pr0n or is this yet another government agency above the law?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did everyone miss the fact they sent the videos apaprently to a third party for a review of content ?
So if there is anything that could be considered pr0n do they SOBs go to jail for distribution of child pr0n or is this yet another government agency above the law ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did everyone miss the fact they sent the videos apaprently to a third party for a review of content?
So if there is anything that could be considered pr0n do they SOBs go to jail for distribution of child pr0n or is this yet another government agency above the law?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235182</id>
	<title>Re:Still can't,</title>
	<author>Archangel Michael</author>
	<datestamp>1266831420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a school IT guy. I can assure you we have good people working in IT here at this district. Let me stipulate the following.</p><p>1)I've had a few MS trainings, and most were "theory" and otherwise worthless for my job. I've been Novel Certified way back when. Everything else I've learned on my own through some 25-30 years of IT work.</p><p>2)We don't have a budget. NONE. And that was before the current economic crisis. All spending was (is) "project" spending, meaning we had to beg to get it funded. We had no replacement cycle plans for anything until THIS year, and even that is getting shelved now.</p><p>3)Almost guaranteed that no IT guy was responsible for anything other than "can you make this feature work"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and that was probably after the laptops showed up.</p><p>4) Almost as assuredly, the IT guys don't have time to reviews pictures being archived automatically. It was probably someone else, looking for something specific (naked chicks/dudes, specific criminal activity etc).</p><p>Our High Schools have ONE analyst for 2000+ students. Our Jr Highs have one Analyst and a couple part time techs for 2400+ students. Between the three analysts and two techs they manage 1500+ machines.</p><p>We don't have time to do stupid stuff like this. However the "do-good" people in other departments would. AND they would easily justify their actions with "for the children" statements you often see. You see, it might mean a grant or increase in funding to stop/prevent/help/support (X), "for the children" of course!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a school IT guy .
I can assure you we have good people working in IT here at this district .
Let me stipulate the following.1 ) I 've had a few MS trainings , and most were " theory " and otherwise worthless for my job .
I 've been Novel Certified way back when .
Everything else I 've learned on my own through some 25-30 years of IT work.2 ) We do n't have a budget .
NONE. And that was before the current economic crisis .
All spending was ( is ) " project " spending , meaning we had to beg to get it funded .
We had no replacement cycle plans for anything until THIS year , and even that is getting shelved now.3 ) Almost guaranteed that no IT guy was responsible for anything other than " can you make this feature work " ... and that was probably after the laptops showed up.4 ) Almost as assuredly , the IT guys do n't have time to reviews pictures being archived automatically .
It was probably someone else , looking for something specific ( naked chicks/dudes , specific criminal activity etc ) .Our High Schools have ONE analyst for 2000 + students .
Our Jr Highs have one Analyst and a couple part time techs for 2400 + students .
Between the three analysts and two techs they manage 1500 + machines.We do n't have time to do stupid stuff like this .
However the " do-good " people in other departments would .
AND they would easily justify their actions with " for the children " statements you often see .
You see , it might mean a grant or increase in funding to stop/prevent/help/support ( X ) , " for the children " of course !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a school IT guy.
I can assure you we have good people working in IT here at this district.
Let me stipulate the following.1)I've had a few MS trainings, and most were "theory" and otherwise worthless for my job.
I've been Novel Certified way back when.
Everything else I've learned on my own through some 25-30 years of IT work.2)We don't have a budget.
NONE. And that was before the current economic crisis.
All spending was (is) "project" spending, meaning we had to beg to get it funded.
We had no replacement cycle plans for anything until THIS year, and even that is getting shelved now.3)Almost guaranteed that no IT guy was responsible for anything other than "can you make this feature work" ... and that was probably after the laptops showed up.4) Almost as assuredly, the IT guys don't have time to reviews pictures being archived automatically.
It was probably someone else, looking for something specific (naked chicks/dudes, specific criminal activity etc).Our High Schools have ONE analyst for 2000+ students.
Our Jr Highs have one Analyst and a couple part time techs for 2400+ students.
Between the three analysts and two techs they manage 1500+ machines.We don't have time to do stupid stuff like this.
However the "do-good" people in other departments would.
AND they would easily justify their actions with "for the children" statements you often see.
You see, it might mean a grant or increase in funding to stop/prevent/help/support (X), "for the children" of course!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31244164</id>
	<title>Re:Whose candy was it?</title>
	<author>Jason Levine</author>
	<datestamp>1266939000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And did he share his candy with others?  Because, you realize if he did it means lost sales for the makers of Mike &amp; Ike.  Perhaps the Candy Industry Association of America (CIAA) needs to investigate!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And did he share his candy with others ?
Because , you realize if he did it means lost sales for the makers of Mike &amp; Ike .
Perhaps the Candy Industry Association of America ( CIAA ) needs to investigate !
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And did he share his candy with others?
Because, you realize if he did it means lost sales for the makers of Mike &amp; Ike.
Perhaps the Candy Industry Association of America (CIAA) needs to investigate!
;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233452</id>
	<title>More info on Network Adminsistrator.</title>
	<author>pavon</author>
	<datestamp>1266869340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It turns out that one of the the network administrators at the school district has a fairly large online presence, and has posted quite a bit relating to this program on his blog over the years. Some folks have <a href="http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html" title="blogspot.com">started looking over</a> [blogspot.com] the blogs and the software being used, and it is pretty interesting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It turns out that one of the the network administrators at the school district has a fairly large online presence , and has posted quite a bit relating to this program on his blog over the years .
Some folks have started looking over [ blogspot.com ] the blogs and the software being used , and it is pretty interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It turns out that one of the the network administrators at the school district has a fairly large online presence, and has posted quite a bit relating to this program on his blog over the years.
Some folks have started looking over [blogspot.com] the blogs and the software being used, and it is pretty interesting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31246894</id>
	<title>Re:The Crazy loop.</title>
	<author>ZachPruckowski</author>
	<datestamp>1266950760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The flip side of that is that now we have Standardized Tests that students must pass, and those numbers matter even more to the school, since too high a failure rate costs you your federal funding.  So now schools would rather drop failing kids than keep them sitting in classes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The flip side of that is that now we have Standardized Tests that students must pass , and those numbers matter even more to the school , since too high a failure rate costs you your federal funding .
So now schools would rather drop failing kids than keep them sitting in classes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The flip side of that is that now we have Standardized Tests that students must pass, and those numbers matter even more to the school, since too high a failure rate costs you your federal funding.
So now schools would rather drop failing kids than keep them sitting in classes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235450</id>
	<title>You guys are missing 1/2 the story</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266832320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The school has some laptops which are not to be removed from school property.  When the reporter asked the kid's family if he was authorized to remove the laptop in question from school grounds, they refused to answer.  Technically, the system worked.  They were missing a laptop and activated the remote viewing mechanism to determine who might have the laptop.  Turns out that the kid was eating Mike and Ikes at the time.  Doesn't justify him removing property from the school without authorization.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The school has some laptops which are not to be removed from school property .
When the reporter asked the kid 's family if he was authorized to remove the laptop in question from school grounds , they refused to answer .
Technically , the system worked .
They were missing a laptop and activated the remote viewing mechanism to determine who might have the laptop .
Turns out that the kid was eating Mike and Ikes at the time .
Does n't justify him removing property from the school without authorization .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The school has some laptops which are not to be removed from school property.
When the reporter asked the kid's family if he was authorized to remove the laptop in question from school grounds, they refused to answer.
Technically, the system worked.
They were missing a laptop and activated the remote viewing mechanism to determine who might have the laptop.
Turns out that the kid was eating Mike and Ikes at the time.
Doesn't justify him removing property from the school without authorization.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31237320</id>
	<title>where are the police?</title>
	<author>e-scetic</author>
	<datestamp>1266838140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the school was spying on kids in their bedrooms then they have child porn in their possession.  Why aren't the police confiscating their equipment?  Why isn't the FBI involved?  They are probably remaining silent precisely because they know as soon as they admit to having any pics they're caught dead to rights and it'll be grounds for a search warrant.</p><p>But if you ask me, there's already grounds for a warrant here...so what the hell is going on?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the school was spying on kids in their bedrooms then they have child porn in their possession .
Why are n't the police confiscating their equipment ?
Why is n't the FBI involved ?
They are probably remaining silent precisely because they know as soon as they admit to having any pics they 're caught dead to rights and it 'll be grounds for a search warrant.But if you ask me , there 's already grounds for a warrant here...so what the hell is going on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the school was spying on kids in their bedrooms then they have child porn in their possession.
Why aren't the police confiscating their equipment?
Why isn't the FBI involved?
They are probably remaining silent precisely because they know as soon as they admit to having any pics they're caught dead to rights and it'll be grounds for a search warrant.But if you ask me, there's already grounds for a warrant here...so what the hell is going on?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233888</id>
	<title>The Crazy loop.</title>
	<author>jellomizer</author>
	<datestamp>1266870900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Schools are overpopulated with kids from poor/undereducated families.<br>These kids cause trouble.<br>Schools find ways to kick out these students to bring their "Numbers" Up.<br>Kicked out students are deemed as failures grow up in a few years stuck in the same area.<br>Live in poverity have kids.<br>Kids go to school...</p><p>Schools need to find reasons to keep them in schools not find reasons to kick them out.  It doesn't matter if they are not model students or model human being. They should have a chance to succeed inspite of themselfs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Schools are overpopulated with kids from poor/undereducated families.These kids cause trouble.Schools find ways to kick out these students to bring their " Numbers " Up.Kicked out students are deemed as failures grow up in a few years stuck in the same area.Live in poverity have kids.Kids go to school...Schools need to find reasons to keep them in schools not find reasons to kick them out .
It does n't matter if they are not model students or model human being .
They should have a chance to succeed inspite of themselfs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Schools are overpopulated with kids from poor/undereducated families.These kids cause trouble.Schools find ways to kick out these students to bring their "Numbers" Up.Kicked out students are deemed as failures grow up in a few years stuck in the same area.Live in poverity have kids.Kids go to school...Schools need to find reasons to keep them in schools not find reasons to kick them out.
It doesn't matter if they are not model students or model human being.
They should have a chance to succeed inspite of themselfs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233450</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266869340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently you don't know what it was like being a kid in the 80s and 90s.  Prescription pills are the drugs of choice by most these days, easier to get by with in plain sight, generally easy to come up with an excuse for having on you or taking, only illegal if you don't have a prescription<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which you don't typically carry around with you.</p><p>and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Even less noticeable when you carry them around in a candy box and act completely normal with them.</p><p>You clearly were not part of the crowd who 'did drugs in school', thats probably a good thing, just stop pretending to know what goes on with the kids who do.  If you have kids, I suggest you ask them about the drugs in their school rather than telling them about drugs, they'll probably already know more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently you do n't know what it was like being a kid in the 80s and 90s .
Prescription pills are the drugs of choice by most these days , easier to get by with in plain sight , generally easy to come up with an excuse for having on you or taking , only illegal if you do n't have a prescription ... which you do n't typically carry around with you.and ...Even less noticeable when you carry them around in a candy box and act completely normal with them.You clearly were not part of the crowd who 'did drugs in school ' , thats probably a good thing , just stop pretending to know what goes on with the kids who do .
If you have kids , I suggest you ask them about the drugs in their school rather than telling them about drugs , they 'll probably already know more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently you don't know what it was like being a kid in the 80s and 90s.
Prescription pills are the drugs of choice by most these days, easier to get by with in plain sight, generally easy to come up with an excuse for having on you or taking, only illegal if you don't have a prescription ... which you don't typically carry around with you.and ...Even less noticeable when you carry them around in a candy box and act completely normal with them.You clearly were not part of the crowd who 'did drugs in school', thats probably a good thing, just stop pretending to know what goes on with the kids who do.
If you have kids, I suggest you ask them about the drugs in their school rather than telling them about drugs, they'll probably already know more.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234860</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1266830460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you remember the 60s or 70s you weren't really there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you remember the 60s or 70s you were n't really there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you remember the 60s or 70s you weren't really there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236784</id>
	<title>Even so</title>
	<author>pak9rabid</author>
	<datestamp>1266836220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even if the student was actually taking or selling drugs, the means still doesn't justify the end.  I'd say nice try if the school officials weren't dipshits.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if the student was actually taking or selling drugs , the means still does n't justify the end .
I 'd say nice try if the school officials were n't dipshits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if the student was actually taking or selling drugs, the means still doesn't justify the end.
I'd say nice try if the school officials weren't dipshits.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234888</id>
	<title>so what..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266830580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm trippin' on carrots and celery right now, and my boss doesn't even realize it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm trippin ' on carrots and celery right now , and my boss does n't even realize it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm trippin' on carrots and celery right now, and my boss doesn't even realize it!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233952</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266871080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not true. A lot of them do. They just happen to be legal with a valid prescription.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not true .
A lot of them do .
They just happen to be legal with a valid prescription .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not true.
A lot of them do.
They just happen to be legal with a valid prescription.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233860</id>
	<title>Re:More info on Network Adminsistrator.</title>
	<author>c0d3g33k</author>
	<datestamp>1266870780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thanks for this.  Very interesting Indeed.

I'll be very curious to see how the courts handle all this, because on the face of it, this seems pretty damning.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for this .
Very interesting Indeed .
I 'll be very curious to see how the courts handle all this , because on the face of it , this seems pretty damning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for this.
Very interesting Indeed.
I'll be very curious to see how the courts handle all this, because on the face of it, this seems pretty damning.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235838</id>
	<title>Let's give out netbooks to..</title>
	<author>Paracelcus</author>
	<datestamp>1266833340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Particularly buxom co-eds so we can post their pictures on the Usenet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Particularly buxom co-eds so we can post their pictures on the Usenet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Particularly buxom co-eds so we can post their pictures on the Usenet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238910</id>
	<title>Government Interest</title>
	<author>foxylad</author>
	<datestamp>1266846540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dear Lower Merion School District,</p><p>We at the US/Chinese/UK (delete as appropriate) government are impressed at the efficiency with which you are "caring" for your students. We have plans to "care" for our entire population, and would like to employ you as a consultant to aid in our efforts.</p><p>For our glorious nation,<br>Des Pott.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear Lower Merion School District,We at the US/Chinese/UK ( delete as appropriate ) government are impressed at the efficiency with which you are " caring " for your students .
We have plans to " care " for our entire population , and would like to employ you as a consultant to aid in our efforts.For our glorious nation,Des Pott .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear Lower Merion School District,We at the US/Chinese/UK (delete as appropriate) government are impressed at the efficiency with which you are "caring" for your students.
We have plans to "care" for our entire population, and would like to employ you as a consultant to aid in our efforts.For our glorious nation,Des Pott.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233338</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266869040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, Mike and Ikes are criminally delicious - this makes perfect sense.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , Mike and Ikes are criminally delicious - this makes perfect sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, Mike and Ikes are criminally delicious - this makes perfect sense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236304</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266834840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not true.</p><p>Pills are most definitely illegal if you are carrying them around on you without a script and YOUR name isn't on the bottle. If you have pills that are not contained in a pill bottle WITH a prescription label on the bottle... then that is considered illegal. This becomes especially true when carrying pills that people are known to abuse. It's not like the "Oh, I forgot my license at home" trick... they will arrest you for having loose pills on you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not true.Pills are most definitely illegal if you are carrying them around on you without a script and YOUR name is n't on the bottle .
If you have pills that are not contained in a pill bottle WITH a prescription label on the bottle... then that is considered illegal .
This becomes especially true when carrying pills that people are known to abuse .
It 's not like the " Oh , I forgot my license at home " trick... they will arrest you for having loose pills on you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not true.Pills are most definitely illegal if you are carrying them around on you without a script and YOUR name isn't on the bottle.
If you have pills that are not contained in a pill bottle WITH a prescription label on the bottle... then that is considered illegal.
This becomes especially true when carrying pills that people are known to abuse.
It's not like the "Oh, I forgot my license at home" trick... they will arrest you for having loose pills on you.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238600</id>
	<title>Re:webcams with a lid</title>
	<author>cusco</author>
	<datestamp>1266844560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Soon an artificial creature of the size of a fly will be able to fly into a room and transmit the vdeo and audio in a perfect quality, including night-vision infrared video." <br> <br>

They're currently the size of a cockroach, and walk like one.  Battery life is holding back development, but wireless power transmission may overcome that.<br> <br>

It's probably even worse than you imagine.  I can imagine quite a lot, and am pretty much tuned into the security industry, but periodically something else pops up that scares the crap out of me yet again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Soon an artificial creature of the size of a fly will be able to fly into a room and transmit the vdeo and audio in a perfect quality , including night-vision infrared video .
" They 're currently the size of a cockroach , and walk like one .
Battery life is holding back development , but wireless power transmission may overcome that .
It 's probably even worse than you imagine .
I can imagine quite a lot , and am pretty much tuned into the security industry , but periodically something else pops up that scares the crap out of me yet again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Soon an artificial creature of the size of a fly will be able to fly into a room and transmit the vdeo and audio in a perfect quality, including night-vision infrared video.
"  

They're currently the size of a cockroach, and walk like one.
Battery life is holding back development, but wireless power transmission may overcome that.
It's probably even worse than you imagine.
I can imagine quite a lot, and am pretty much tuned into the security industry, but periodically something else pops up that scares the crap out of me yet again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238760</id>
	<title>Re:Underwear check</title>
	<author>mjwalshe</author>
	<datestamp>1266845580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the asistant pricipal didnt get jail time for this and is still working in education</htmltext>
<tokenext>the asistant pricipal didnt get jail time for this and is still working in education</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the asistant pricipal didnt get jail time for this and is still working in education</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234822</id>
	<title>webcam light?</title>
	<author>catbertscousin</author>
	<datestamp>1266830400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't most laptops these days have a little light that indicates when the webcam is active? Did none of the students notice that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't most laptops these days have a little light that indicates when the webcam is active ?
Did none of the students notice that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't most laptops these days have a little light that indicates when the webcam is active?
Did none of the students notice that?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233448</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>commodoresloat</author>
	<datestamp>1266869340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hint: Drugs do not come in big candy colored shapes.</p></div><p>I'm guessing you didn't attend a lot of Grateful Dead shows....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hint : Drugs do not come in big candy colored shapes.I 'm guessing you did n't attend a lot of Grateful Dead shows... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hint: Drugs do not come in big candy colored shapes.I'm guessing you didn't attend a lot of Grateful Dead shows....
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233500</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>skine</author>
	<datestamp>1266869460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The drugs don't necessarily have to be illicit. For example, Dayquil/Nyquil tabs viewed over a cheap webcam would appear similar to Mike &amp; Ikes.</p><p><a href="http://media.nowpublic.net/images//f1/b/f1b6b896b9c916f2b630080151d3d422.jpg" title="nowpublic.net">http://media.nowpublic.net/images//f1/b/f1b6b896b9c916f2b630080151d3d422.jpg</a> [nowpublic.net]</p><p>While they aren't illegal, it's possible that they have older pills/generic pills that still allow them to Robotrip.</p><p>(This is, of course, all besides the fact that the school obviously did something illegal, and it doesn't really matter either way)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The drugs do n't necessarily have to be illicit .
For example , Dayquil/Nyquil tabs viewed over a cheap webcam would appear similar to Mike &amp; Ikes.http : //media.nowpublic.net/images//f1/b/f1b6b896b9c916f2b630080151d3d422.jpg [ nowpublic.net ] While they are n't illegal , it 's possible that they have older pills/generic pills that still allow them to Robotrip .
( This is , of course , all besides the fact that the school obviously did something illegal , and it does n't really matter either way )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The drugs don't necessarily have to be illicit.
For example, Dayquil/Nyquil tabs viewed over a cheap webcam would appear similar to Mike &amp; Ikes.http://media.nowpublic.net/images//f1/b/f1b6b896b9c916f2b630080151d3d422.jpg [nowpublic.net]While they aren't illegal, it's possible that they have older pills/generic pills that still allow them to Robotrip.
(This is, of course, all besides the fact that the school obviously did something illegal, and it doesn't really matter either way)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236394</id>
	<title>Stolen? oh really</title>
	<author>Fujisawa Sensei</author>
	<datestamp>1266835200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the laptop was stolen, where is they police report?</p><p>I could understand it not being reported as stolen; if they were just going to write it off.  But since they were taking the effort to track it down, they must have been a police report filed.</p><p>In addition why was the student not busted really hard for making a false claim of the laptop being stolen?</p><p>Its sounding like they trying to cover it up.  And that should be good for even more jail time for the conspirators. Wahoo!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the laptop was stolen , where is they police report ? I could understand it not being reported as stolen ; if they were just going to write it off .
But since they were taking the effort to track it down , they must have been a police report filed.In addition why was the student not busted really hard for making a false claim of the laptop being stolen ? Its sounding like they trying to cover it up .
And that should be good for even more jail time for the conspirators .
Wahoo !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the laptop was stolen, where is they police report?I could understand it not being reported as stolen; if they were just going to write it off.
But since they were taking the effort to track it down, they must have been a police report filed.In addition why was the student not busted really hard for making a false claim of the laptop being stolen?Its sounding like they trying to cover it up.
And that should be good for even more jail time for the conspirators.
Wahoo!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31240374</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266856560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But I'll sell them to you for $200.00 a box if you meet me in the alleyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But I 'll sell them to you for $ 200.00 a box if you meet me in the alleyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I'll sell them to you for $200.00 a box if you meet me in the alleyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236310</id>
	<title>Not sure of the facts</title>
	<author>Spazmania</author>
	<datestamp>1266834840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've read the various articles and one thing that struck me is that no one questions the assumption that the assistant principal pulled up the student's webcam even though the school district claims he didn't and couldn't have. Couldn't one of the kid's friends have snapped a picture during a web chat or with their own illicit software and then given a copy to the assistant principal?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've read the various articles and one thing that struck me is that no one questions the assumption that the assistant principal pulled up the student 's webcam even though the school district claims he did n't and could n't have .
Could n't one of the kid 's friends have snapped a picture during a web chat or with their own illicit software and then given a copy to the assistant principal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've read the various articles and one thing that struck me is that no one questions the assumption that the assistant principal pulled up the student's webcam even though the school district claims he didn't and couldn't have.
Couldn't one of the kid's friends have snapped a picture during a web chat or with their own illicit software and then given a copy to the assistant principal?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236518</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>DustyShadow</author>
	<datestamp>1266835560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>$25 a box at your local movie theater.</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 25 a box at your local movie theater .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$25 a box at your local movie theater.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235388</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266832080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Apparently you don't know what it was like being a kid in the 80s and 90s. You clearly were not part of the crowd who 'did drugs in school', thats probably a good thing, just stop pretending to know what goes on with the kids who do.</p></div><p>Son, I did more drugs in high school than you've probably ever read about on Wikipedia, and I completely agree with the OP. Mike &amp; Ike's look <em>nothing</em> like any drug I've ever seen in my life. When was the last time you came across a neon red Ritalin?</p><p>I think you'd be pretty damn surprised if I wasn't posting anon. "What? Him? No way!"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently you do n't know what it was like being a kid in the 80s and 90s .
You clearly were not part of the crowd who 'did drugs in school ' , thats probably a good thing , just stop pretending to know what goes on with the kids who do.Son , I did more drugs in high school than you 've probably ever read about on Wikipedia , and I completely agree with the OP .
Mike &amp; Ike 's look nothing like any drug I 've ever seen in my life .
When was the last time you came across a neon red Ritalin ? I think you 'd be pretty damn surprised if I was n't posting anon .
" What ? Him ?
No way !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently you don't know what it was like being a kid in the 80s and 90s.
You clearly were not part of the crowd who 'did drugs in school', thats probably a good thing, just stop pretending to know what goes on with the kids who do.Son, I did more drugs in high school than you've probably ever read about on Wikipedia, and I completely agree with the OP.
Mike &amp; Ike's look nothing like any drug I've ever seen in my life.
When was the last time you came across a neon red Ritalin?I think you'd be pretty damn surprised if I wasn't posting anon.
"What? Him?
No way!
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238792</id>
	<title>What about microphones???</title>
	<author>knorthern knight</author>
	<datestamp>1266845760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Many laptops with webcams also have microphones. so you can do low-quality videoconferencing.  I don't know what make/model of laptops were used by the school.  But I thought I'd ask... do they also have microphones?  This would greatly increase the potential for eavesdropping.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many laptops with webcams also have microphones .
so you can do low-quality videoconferencing .
I do n't know what make/model of laptops were used by the school .
But I thought I 'd ask... do they also have microphones ?
This would greatly increase the potential for eavesdropping .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many laptops with webcams also have microphones.
so you can do low-quality videoconferencing.
I don't know what make/model of laptops were used by the school.
But I thought I'd ask... do they also have microphones?
This would greatly increase the potential for eavesdropping.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233268</id>
	<title>Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools...</title>
	<author>gestalt\_n\_pepper</author>
	<datestamp>1266868800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently the school administration has lost all memory of being teenagers in the 60s and 70s.</p><p>Hint: Drugs do not come in big candy colored shapes. Think powders, small tiny pills, pieces of paper, crude plant material, or crudely rolled cigarettes. FYI, Sweet Tarts and M&amp;Ms are still legal in most states.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently the school administration has lost all memory of being teenagers in the 60s and 70s.Hint : Drugs do not come in big candy colored shapes .
Think powders , small tiny pills , pieces of paper , crude plant material , or crudely rolled cigarettes .
FYI , Sweet Tarts and M&amp;Ms are still legal in most states .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently the school administration has lost all memory of being teenagers in the 60s and 70s.Hint: Drugs do not come in big candy colored shapes.
Think powders, small tiny pills, pieces of paper, crude plant material, or crudely rolled cigarettes.
FYI, Sweet Tarts and M&amp;Ms are still legal in most states.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233534</id>
	<title>Re:Still can't,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266869580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have you ever met the admins in a public school system.  I have and they aren't either payed enough to care or are somewhat incompetent.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever met the admins in a public school system .
I have and they are n't either payed enough to care or are somewhat incompetent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever met the admins in a public school system.
I have and they aren't either payed enough to care or are somewhat incompetent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31237334</id>
	<title>Re:Underwear check</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1266838200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sounds to me like *all* of the students broke the rule...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds to me like * all * of the students broke the rule.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds to me like *all* of the students broke the rule...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233294</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235792</id>
	<title>Re:Only in america...</title>
	<author>The End Of Days</author>
	<datestamp>1266833220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We're busy trying to catch up to the insanity you Eurotypes have been unleashing on the world for hundreds of years.  You've had a headstart, it's not fair.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're busy trying to catch up to the insanity you Eurotypes have been unleashing on the world for hundreds of years .
You 've had a headstart , it 's not fair .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're busy trying to catch up to the insanity you Eurotypes have been unleashing on the world for hundreds of years.
You've had a headstart, it's not fair.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233736</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236782</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing changes but stupidity in public schools</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266836220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oddly enough, most of the acid I've taken has been dripped on sweet tarts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oddly enough , most of the acid I 've taken has been dripped on sweet tarts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oddly enough, most of the acid I've taken has been dripped on sweet tarts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31237992</id>
	<title>Re:Wait..</title>
	<author>Wise Dr Funk</author>
	<datestamp>1266841020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm a resident of LMSD and have some of my nieces and nephews attending it's schools (none in high school yet).  The question as to how this theft system was activated has been flying around a great deal among the parents.  The school has not addressed this point, but lawyered up instead.  Let me fill you in on what the locals are saying.

While I can't profess to any kind of certainty about this, word on the street is that the student in question had lost his laptop privileges prior to this debacle.  What this means is that he no longer had a laptop to bring home and had to borrow a loaner while at school.  The laptop in this particular case was supposed to be a loaner that was not to leave school property.  When the laptop wasn't returned at the end of the day, it was presumed lost or stolen and that is when the infamous picture was snapped.  I think we all know where the laptop was.

This would explain why a laptop that was not lost or stolen could have been regarded as such.  This would explain why the snapshot would have been taken.

Please don't take this to mean that I support this kind of invasion of privacy.  I think that the school had a responsibility to tell parents that their laptops had this kind of capability.  Informed parents could have weighed the pros and cons and taken the laptops only if they felt like these terms were acceptable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a resident of LMSD and have some of my nieces and nephews attending it 's schools ( none in high school yet ) .
The question as to how this theft system was activated has been flying around a great deal among the parents .
The school has not addressed this point , but lawyered up instead .
Let me fill you in on what the locals are saying .
While I ca n't profess to any kind of certainty about this , word on the street is that the student in question had lost his laptop privileges prior to this debacle .
What this means is that he no longer had a laptop to bring home and had to borrow a loaner while at school .
The laptop in this particular case was supposed to be a loaner that was not to leave school property .
When the laptop was n't returned at the end of the day , it was presumed lost or stolen and that is when the infamous picture was snapped .
I think we all know where the laptop was .
This would explain why a laptop that was not lost or stolen could have been regarded as such .
This would explain why the snapshot would have been taken .
Please do n't take this to mean that I support this kind of invasion of privacy .
I think that the school had a responsibility to tell parents that their laptops had this kind of capability .
Informed parents could have weighed the pros and cons and taken the laptops only if they felt like these terms were acceptable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a resident of LMSD and have some of my nieces and nephews attending it's schools (none in high school yet).
The question as to how this theft system was activated has been flying around a great deal among the parents.
The school has not addressed this point, but lawyered up instead.
Let me fill you in on what the locals are saying.
While I can't profess to any kind of certainty about this, word on the street is that the student in question had lost his laptop privileges prior to this debacle.
What this means is that he no longer had a laptop to bring home and had to borrow a loaner while at school.
The laptop in this particular case was supposed to be a loaner that was not to leave school property.
When the laptop wasn't returned at the end of the day, it was presumed lost or stolen and that is when the infamous picture was snapped.
I think we all know where the laptop was.
This would explain why a laptop that was not lost or stolen could have been regarded as such.
This would explain why the snapshot would have been taken.
Please don't take this to mean that I support this kind of invasion of privacy.
I think that the school had a responsibility to tell parents that their laptops had this kind of capability.
Informed parents could have weighed the pros and cons and taken the laptops only if they felt like these terms were acceptable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233280</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233898</id>
	<title>How long did they spy</title>
	<author>Murdoch5</author>
	<datestamp>1266870960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So they used web cams to spy in the school and students got accused of taking drugs when eating Mikes and Ike's?   Don't people know you should turn off your web cam unless you using it, well it's not expected that someone would spy on you at the same time it's  simply good practice to turn it off.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So they used web cams to spy in the school and students got accused of taking drugs when eating Mikes and Ike 's ?
Do n't people know you should turn off your web cam unless you using it , well it 's not expected that someone would spy on you at the same time it 's simply good practice to turn it off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they used web cams to spy in the school and students got accused of taking drugs when eating Mikes and Ike's?
Don't people know you should turn off your web cam unless you using it, well it's not expected that someone would spy on you at the same time it's  simply good practice to turn it off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234492</id>
	<title>Re:Underwear check</title>
	<author>AndersOSU</author>
	<datestamp>1266829380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Holy crap, from the wiki:</p><p># 2 Controversies</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * 2.1 Broomstick incident<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * 2.2 Underwear incident<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * 2.3 Noose incident<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * 2.4 Hacking incident</p><p>Sounds like the school, and possibly the school district needs all new management.</p><p>Also,  if we think an administrator was inappropriately inspecting minor's underwear, how does making them a teacher solve a damn thing?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Holy crap , from the wiki : # 2 Controversies         * 2.1 Broomstick incident         * 2.2 Underwear incident         * 2.3 Noose incident         * 2.4 Hacking incidentSounds like the school , and possibly the school district needs all new management.Also , if we think an administrator was inappropriately inspecting minor 's underwear , how does making them a teacher solve a damn thing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Holy crap, from the wiki:# 2 Controversies
        * 2.1 Broomstick incident
        * 2.2 Underwear incident
        * 2.3 Noose incident
        * 2.4 Hacking incidentSounds like the school, and possibly the school district needs all new management.Also,  if we think an administrator was inappropriately inspecting minor's underwear, how does making them a teacher solve a damn thing?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234080</id>
	<title>Chain of evidence</title>
	<author>cs668</author>
	<datestamp>1266871440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if a person were crazy enough to think it was alright to secretly spy on people and then start some sort of punitive process I can't imagine someone taking screenshots really provides any real chain of custody/evidence to keep it admissible.</p><p>Hmmm, let me bust out photoshop or the Gimp, next thing you know your screwing a goat on your desk.</p><p>Real video surveillance systems have to have measures to make sure the evidence has not been tampered with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if a person were crazy enough to think it was alright to secretly spy on people and then start some sort of punitive process I ca n't imagine someone taking screenshots really provides any real chain of custody/evidence to keep it admissible.Hmmm , let me bust out photoshop or the Gimp , next thing you know your screwing a goat on your desk.Real video surveillance systems have to have measures to make sure the evidence has not been tampered with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if a person were crazy enough to think it was alright to secretly spy on people and then start some sort of punitive process I can't imagine someone taking screenshots really provides any real chain of custody/evidence to keep it admissible.Hmmm, let me bust out photoshop or the Gimp, next thing you know your screwing a goat on your desk.Real video surveillance systems have to have measures to make sure the evidence has not been tampered with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31239376</id>
	<title>when the principal is the dictator</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266849180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and the school becomes the court</p><p>killings......inside.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and the school becomes the courtkillings......inside.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and the school becomes the courtkillings......inside.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238990</id>
	<title>Mainstream media have picked this up</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1266846960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-02-22-missing-laptops\_N.htm" title="usatoday.com">USA Today</a> [usatoday.com] "Experts say school could track missing laptops less intrusively" Really?!? You don't say!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even USA Today [ usatoday.com ] " Experts say school could track missing laptops less intrusively " Really ? ! ?
You do n't say !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even USA Today [usatoday.com] "Experts say school could track missing laptops less intrusively" Really?!?
You don't say!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31238294</id>
	<title>webcams with a lid</title>
	<author>Max\_W</author>
	<datestamp>1266842820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It makes sense to produce a web-cam with a lid. A piece of paper and scotch tape could be used on older web-cams.</p><p>For all I know a spyware soft could be installed on my PC relatively easy and someone may watch my room.</p><p>Web-cams are getting smaller and smaller. The same about drones. Soon an artificial creature of the size of a fly will be able to fly into a room and transmit the vdeo and audio in a perfect quality, including night-vision infrared video.</p><p>Using protective nets on windows will not help as robots similar to cockroaches may be deployed. It will be the word without secrets.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It makes sense to produce a web-cam with a lid .
A piece of paper and scotch tape could be used on older web-cams.For all I know a spyware soft could be installed on my PC relatively easy and someone may watch my room.Web-cams are getting smaller and smaller .
The same about drones .
Soon an artificial creature of the size of a fly will be able to fly into a room and transmit the vdeo and audio in a perfect quality , including night-vision infrared video.Using protective nets on windows will not help as robots similar to cockroaches may be deployed .
It will be the word without secrets .
   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>It makes sense to produce a web-cam with a lid.
A piece of paper and scotch tape could be used on older web-cams.For all I know a spyware soft could be installed on my PC relatively easy and someone may watch my room.Web-cams are getting smaller and smaller.
The same about drones.
Soon an artificial creature of the size of a fly will be able to fly into a room and transmit the vdeo and audio in a perfect quality, including night-vision infrared video.Using protective nets on windows will not help as robots similar to cockroaches may be deployed.
It will be the word without secrets.
   </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235050</id>
	<title>Re:The Crazy loop.</title>
	<author>chaodyn</author>
	<datestamp>1266831060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Public schools don't want to kick students out.  Federal funding is determined in part by the number of students enrolled, thus more students equals more funding. That's why they want your kids to go to school regardless of health on the "federal counting days". From what I've seen, they're more interested in passing kids along regardless of performance than kicking kids out (this from a father with two in school right now...)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Public schools do n't want to kick students out .
Federal funding is determined in part by the number of students enrolled , thus more students equals more funding .
That 's why they want your kids to go to school regardless of health on the " federal counting days " .
From what I 've seen , they 're more interested in passing kids along regardless of performance than kicking kids out ( this from a father with two in school right now... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Public schools don't want to kick students out.
Federal funding is determined in part by the number of students enrolled, thus more students equals more funding.
That's why they want your kids to go to school regardless of health on the "federal counting days".
From what I've seen, they're more interested in passing kids along regardless of performance than kicking kids out (this from a father with two in school right now...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235152</id>
	<title>Re:Haha, 'ol Mike &amp; Ikes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266831360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clearly the victim of candy OD induced memory issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly the victim of candy OD induced memory issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly the victim of candy OD induced memory issues.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235278</id>
	<title>Re:Still can't,</title>
	<author>JonStewartMill</author>
	<datestamp>1266831720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reminds me of the old joke: "What's the most common first name of high-school science teachers in the [American] South?"  <br>"Coach."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of the old joke : " What 's the most common first name of high-school science teachers in the [ American ] South ?
" " Coach .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of the old joke: "What's the most common first name of high-school science teachers in the [American] South?
"  "Coach.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233320</id>
	<title>Yo man</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266868980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, how did that play out for the student trying to score?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Yo man, you want to score some <b>real</b> ass shit? I got Mike and Ikes. I got motherfucking Candy Corn straight out of Mexico. I'm talking about the premium cane sugar shit. What are you? You tweek? I got pixie-sticks. I got warheads. I got pure, uncut rock candy. I got what you need, bro!  No, I got your ticket. You're a peep head. Look at these, man. Check out the pink frosting. primo. That'll be four Washingtons, bro. Cash, man!</p></div><p>Kids today...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , how did that play out for the student trying to score ? Yo man , you want to score some real ass shit ?
I got Mike and Ikes .
I got motherfucking Candy Corn straight out of Mexico .
I 'm talking about the premium cane sugar shit .
What are you ?
You tweek ?
I got pixie-sticks .
I got warheads .
I got pure , uncut rock candy .
I got what you need , bro !
No , I got your ticket .
You 're a peep head .
Look at these , man .
Check out the pink frosting .
primo. That 'll be four Washingtons , bro .
Cash , man ! Kids today.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, how did that play out for the student trying to score?Yo man, you want to score some real ass shit?
I got Mike and Ikes.
I got motherfucking Candy Corn straight out of Mexico.
I'm talking about the premium cane sugar shit.
What are you?
You tweek?
I got pixie-sticks.
I got warheads.
I got pure, uncut rock candy.
I got what you need, bro!
No, I got your ticket.
You're a peep head.
Look at these, man.
Check out the pink frosting.
primo. That'll be four Washingtons, bro.
Cash, man!Kids today...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235060</id>
	<title>SEE I TOLD YOU WE NEED ANARCHY</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266831060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anarchy or big brother? I choose the former.

Anarchy is the REAL democracy, and the only solution for the U.S.A. (the second best solution is National Socialism, the ideal form of socialism)

And for those who think I am a Xth-grade-level kid, I am a PhD student in Computer Science from University of Chicago, more educated that most<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. dumbass.

And when shit happens in this country? I will be the first one to jump on the plane and go back to India.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anarchy or big brother ?
I choose the former .
Anarchy is the REAL democracy , and the only solution for the U.S.A. ( the second best solution is National Socialism , the ideal form of socialism ) And for those who think I am a Xth-grade-level kid , I am a PhD student in Computer Science from University of Chicago , more educated that most / .
dumbass . And when shit happens in this country ?
I will be the first one to jump on the plane and go back to India .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anarchy or big brother?
I choose the former.
Anarchy is the REAL democracy, and the only solution for the U.S.A. (the second best solution is National Socialism, the ideal form of socialism)

And for those who think I am a Xth-grade-level kid, I am a PhD student in Computer Science from University of Chicago, more educated that most /.
dumbass.

And when shit happens in this country?
I will be the first one to jump on the plane and go back to India.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233294</id>
	<title>Underwear check</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266868860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've mentioned this before, but from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rancho\_Bernardo\_High\_School#Underwear\_incident" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">this</a> [wikipedia.org]:<blockquote><div><p>In April 2002, Rancho Bernardo received media attention when one of the school's assistant principals forced female students at a school dance to lift their clothing and expose their underwear, in search of G-strings and thongs. The district said the reason for the check was to "ensure appropriate school dress."[2] Rita Wilson, the assistant principal involved in this incident, was later demoted to a teaching position.[3]</p></div></blockquote><p>

And it was later discovered that none of the students broke any rules. The rule was that underwear <i>could not be showing</i>. The problem is people making up the rules as they go along, often in secret. Our government for example...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've mentioned this before , but from this [ wikipedia.org ] : In April 2002 , Rancho Bernardo received media attention when one of the school 's assistant principals forced female students at a school dance to lift their clothing and expose their underwear , in search of G-strings and thongs .
The district said the reason for the check was to " ensure appropriate school dress .
" [ 2 ] Rita Wilson , the assistant principal involved in this incident , was later demoted to a teaching position .
[ 3 ] And it was later discovered that none of the students broke any rules .
The rule was that underwear could not be showing .
The problem is people making up the rules as they go along , often in secret .
Our government for example.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've mentioned this before, but from this [wikipedia.org]:In April 2002, Rancho Bernardo received media attention when one of the school's assistant principals forced female students at a school dance to lift their clothing and expose their underwear, in search of G-strings and thongs.
The district said the reason for the check was to "ensure appropriate school dress.
"[2] Rita Wilson, the assistant principal involved in this incident, was later demoted to a teaching position.
[3]

And it was later discovered that none of the students broke any rules.
The rule was that underwear could not be showing.
The problem is people making up the rules as they go along, often in secret.
Our government for example...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233344</id>
	<title>Cardinal Richlieu 2010</title>
	<author>StreetStealth</author>
	<datestamp>1266869040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&ldquo;If you give me a 640x480 JPEG of the most honest of men, I will find something in it which will hang him&rdquo;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>   If you give me a 640x480 JPEG of the most honest of men , I will find something in it which will hang him   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>“If you give me a 640x480 JPEG of the most honest of men, I will find something in it which will hang him”</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233280</id>
	<title>Wait..</title>
	<author>rotide</author>
	<datestamp>1266868860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, I thought the school made a statement saying they never ever used the laptop "security feature" for anything besides recovering lost and/or stolen equipment.</p><p>How is snapping a picture of a student, with \_no\_ stolen laptop, following in line with their stated security policy?</p><p>Ya, we didn't use it for its intended purpose.  Ya, we did snoop around to satisfy our curiosity, but..  but.. BUT..  LOOK AT THE DRUGS!</p><p>*Facts presented so far in this case are less than facts until a court rules.  I don't claim to know what happened, I'm just a sheep parroting the hearsay I come across.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , I thought the school made a statement saying they never ever used the laptop " security feature " for anything besides recovering lost and/or stolen equipment.How is snapping a picture of a student , with \ _no \ _ stolen laptop , following in line with their stated security policy ? Ya , we did n't use it for its intended purpose .
Ya , we did snoop around to satisfy our curiosity , but.. but.. BUT.. LOOK AT THE DRUGS !
* Facts presented so far in this case are less than facts until a court rules .
I do n't claim to know what happened , I 'm just a sheep parroting the hearsay I come across .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, I thought the school made a statement saying they never ever used the laptop "security feature" for anything besides recovering lost and/or stolen equipment.How is snapping a picture of a student, with \_no\_ stolen laptop, following in line with their stated security policy?Ya, we didn't use it for its intended purpose.
Ya, we did snoop around to satisfy our curiosity, but..  but.. BUT..  LOOK AT THE DRUGS!
*Facts presented so far in this case are less than facts until a court rules.
I don't claim to know what happened, I'm just a sheep parroting the hearsay I come across.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31239314</id>
	<title>Re:Still can't,</title>
	<author>TechnoHippie2010</author>
	<datestamp>1266848820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"...I'm a school IT guy. I can assure you we have good people working in IT here at this district. Let me stipulate the following...." - which school district - the one in question here?

"1) I've had a few MS trainings, and most were "theory" and otherwise worthless for my job."
Nothing beats experience - but if you got nothing from your MS training classes then you took the wrong classes or are otherwise not learning for some reason.

"3)Almost guaranteed that no IT guy was responsible for anything other than "can you make this feature work"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and that was probably after the laptops showed up."
Well the job of the IT guys it keep things working - ok so are you saying no new development and no updates at all then?

"4) Almost as assuredly, the IT guys don't have time to reviews pictures being archived automatically. It was probably someone else, looking for something specific (naked chicks/dudes, specific criminal activity etc)."
hahaha - you don't actaully expect us to believe that do you?  First of all why are pictures being gathered and thus archived to begin with?  It takes about 1 seconds to view 3 pictures so I'm sure that the amount of time you've spent here on this website writing things (which I see was done during business hours when you're supposedly "to busy" at work to do anything else)....

Get a life dude.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...I 'm a school IT guy .
I can assure you we have good people working in IT here at this district .
Let me stipulate the following.... " - which school district - the one in question here ?
" 1 ) I 've had a few MS trainings , and most were " theory " and otherwise worthless for my job .
" Nothing beats experience - but if you got nothing from your MS training classes then you took the wrong classes or are otherwise not learning for some reason .
" 3 ) Almost guaranteed that no IT guy was responsible for anything other than " can you make this feature work " ... and that was probably after the laptops showed up .
" Well the job of the IT guys it keep things working - ok so are you saying no new development and no updates at all then ?
" 4 ) Almost as assuredly , the IT guys do n't have time to reviews pictures being archived automatically .
It was probably someone else , looking for something specific ( naked chicks/dudes , specific criminal activity etc ) .
" hahaha - you do n't actaully expect us to believe that do you ?
First of all why are pictures being gathered and thus archived to begin with ?
It takes about 1 seconds to view 3 pictures so I 'm sure that the amount of time you 've spent here on this website writing things ( which I see was done during business hours when you 're supposedly " to busy " at work to do anything else ) ... . Get a life dude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...I'm a school IT guy.
I can assure you we have good people working in IT here at this district.
Let me stipulate the following...." - which school district - the one in question here?
"1) I've had a few MS trainings, and most were "theory" and otherwise worthless for my job.
"
Nothing beats experience - but if you got nothing from your MS training classes then you took the wrong classes or are otherwise not learning for some reason.
"3)Almost guaranteed that no IT guy was responsible for anything other than "can you make this feature work" ... and that was probably after the laptops showed up.
"
Well the job of the IT guys it keep things working - ok so are you saying no new development and no updates at all then?
"4) Almost as assuredly, the IT guys don't have time to reviews pictures being archived automatically.
It was probably someone else, looking for something specific (naked chicks/dudes, specific criminal activity etc).
"
hahaha - you don't actaully expect us to believe that do you?
First of all why are pictures being gathered and thus archived to begin with?
It takes about 1 seconds to view 3 pictures so I'm sure that the amount of time you've spent here on this website writing things (which I see was done during business hours when you're supposedly "to busy" at work to do anything else)....

Get a life dude.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233246</id>
	<title>Doesn't make much difference either way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266868740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really doesn't make much difference. The school shouldn't be punishing kids for taking drugs at home even if they really were doing that. If they came by the information legitimately then their choices are bringing the matter to the attention of the parents, the police, social services or some combination of those. If the information was acquired illegitimately then the choice gets a little harder but I can still see an argument for "we shouldn't know this but we really should let the parents know anyway and fire whoever got us into this mess". \deciding to discipline the student for a non-school related incident though is just completely the wrong move to make.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really does n't make much difference .
The school should n't be punishing kids for taking drugs at home even if they really were doing that .
If they came by the information legitimately then their choices are bringing the matter to the attention of the parents , the police , social services or some combination of those .
If the information was acquired illegitimately then the choice gets a little harder but I can still see an argument for " we should n't know this but we really should let the parents know anyway and fire whoever got us into this mess " .
\ deciding to discipline the student for a non-school related incident though is just completely the wrong move to make .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really doesn't make much difference.
The school shouldn't be punishing kids for taking drugs at home even if they really were doing that.
If they came by the information legitimately then their choices are bringing the matter to the attention of the parents, the police, social services or some combination of those.
If the information was acquired illegitimately then the choice gets a little harder but I can still see an argument for "we shouldn't know this but we really should let the parents know anyway and fire whoever got us into this mess".
\deciding to discipline the student for a non-school related incident though is just completely the wrong move to make.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233590</id>
	<title>Dinner and a show</title>
	<author>magusxxx</author>
	<datestamp>1266869760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What are the chances Mr. Schooladministrator will be asked, "Why did you watch Billy Beatnick supposedly taking drugs for 30 seconds and then watch Chelsea Cheerleader for the next 3 hours?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>What are the chances Mr. Schooladministrator will be asked , " Why did you watch Billy Beatnick supposedly taking drugs for 30 seconds and then watch Chelsea Cheerleader for the next 3 hours ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are the chances Mr. Schooladministrator will be asked, "Why did you watch Billy Beatnick supposedly taking drugs for 30 seconds and then watch Chelsea Cheerleader for the next 3 hours?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235170</id>
	<title>Re:Bizzarre doesn't begin to cover it</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1266831420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The student's lawyer is asking a judge for an emergency ruling that the school not engage in <a href="http://cbs13.com/technology/philadelphia.webcam.school.2.1510868.html" title="cbs13.com">despoilation of evidence</a> [cbs13.com], and <a href="http://gadgets.tmcnet.com/topics/gadgets/articles/76405-fbi-launches-probe-into-school-spycam-compliant.htm" title="tmcnet.com">The FBI is now involved</a> [tmcnet.com]. You know, at the point where the FBI is called in to investigate your wrong-doing, maybe you should start thinking about admitting that you actually fucked up!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The student 's lawyer is asking a judge for an emergency ruling that the school not engage in despoilation of evidence [ cbs13.com ] , and The FBI is now involved [ tmcnet.com ] .
You know , at the point where the FBI is called in to investigate your wrong-doing , maybe you should start thinking about admitting that you actually fucked up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The student's lawyer is asking a judge for an emergency ruling that the school not engage in despoilation of evidence [cbs13.com], and The FBI is now involved [tmcnet.com].
You know, at the point where the FBI is called in to investigate your wrong-doing, maybe you should start thinking about admitting that you actually fucked up!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235888</id>
	<title>Candy</title>
	<author>KneelBeforeZod</author>
	<datestamp>1266833520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"My God, he's popping those pills like candy!"</p><p>What kind of kid pops the fun pills while at a public school library?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" My God , he 's popping those pills like candy !
" What kind of kid pops the fun pills while at a public school library ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"My God, he's popping those pills like candy!
"What kind of kid pops the fun pills while at a public school library?</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234396</id>
	<title>Re:Wait..</title>
	<author>AndersOSU</author>
	<datestamp>1266872280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you read between the lines in their <a href="http://www.lmsd.org/sections/news/default.php?m=0&amp;t=today&amp;p=lmsd\_anno&amp;id=1143" title="lmsd.org">statement</a> [lmsd.org], it looks like the school is trying to say that the kid took home a loaner laptop - which he was not supposed to do.  I think they're going to try to say that since the laptop wasn't the one issued to the kid, they had the right to try to locate it and they "accidentally" caught the kid engaged in "inappropriate behavior," which if this claim turns out to be true was taking something that looked sorta like drugs.</p><p>One more thing, from the summary, "the officials involved have done a particularly bad job of actually managing the events."  How the hell do you do a good job of managing the event that a school vice-principle got access to pictures taken covertly in a minors bedroom?  There's no managing that, that's a grade A screw up from the start.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you read between the lines in their statement [ lmsd.org ] , it looks like the school is trying to say that the kid took home a loaner laptop - which he was not supposed to do .
I think they 're going to try to say that since the laptop was n't the one issued to the kid , they had the right to try to locate it and they " accidentally " caught the kid engaged in " inappropriate behavior , " which if this claim turns out to be true was taking something that looked sorta like drugs.One more thing , from the summary , " the officials involved have done a particularly bad job of actually managing the events .
" How the hell do you do a good job of managing the event that a school vice-principle got access to pictures taken covertly in a minors bedroom ?
There 's no managing that , that 's a grade A screw up from the start .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you read between the lines in their statement [lmsd.org], it looks like the school is trying to say that the kid took home a loaner laptop - which he was not supposed to do.
I think they're going to try to say that since the laptop wasn't the one issued to the kid, they had the right to try to locate it and they "accidentally" caught the kid engaged in "inappropriate behavior," which if this claim turns out to be true was taking something that looked sorta like drugs.One more thing, from the summary, "the officials involved have done a particularly bad job of actually managing the events.
"  How the hell do you do a good job of managing the event that a school vice-principle got access to pictures taken covertly in a minors bedroom?
There's no managing that, that's a grade A screw up from the start.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31236584</id>
	<title>Serious violation</title>
	<author>Raquiellet</author>
	<datestamp>1266835740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't believe that they couldn't tell tell that he was eating candy!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe that they could n't tell tell that he was eating candy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe that they couldn't tell tell that he was eating candy!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234644</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh.</title>
	<author>mrdoogee</author>
	<datestamp>1266829800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's nothing! I once saw an AC who didn't understand hyperbole!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's nothing !
I once saw an AC who did n't understand hyperbole !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's nothing!
I once saw an AC who didn't understand hyperbole!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31240370</id>
	<title>Re:How long did they spy</title>
	<author>Nazlfrag</author>
	<datestamp>1266856560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The computers were locked down to the point that students couldn't even use the cameras, much less disable them. Attempting to jailbreak your computer to get around this could result in expulsion under their rules. The kids had absolutely no power over the situation, it's ridiculous to blame them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The computers were locked down to the point that students could n't even use the cameras , much less disable them .
Attempting to jailbreak your computer to get around this could result in expulsion under their rules .
The kids had absolutely no power over the situation , it 's ridiculous to blame them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The computers were locked down to the point that students couldn't even use the cameras, much less disable them.
Attempting to jailbreak your computer to get around this could result in expulsion under their rules.
The kids had absolutely no power over the situation, it's ridiculous to blame them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31234640</id>
	<title>Re:Underwear check</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1266829800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To put a different spin on this:  I've heard that the "underwear checks" and "underwear rules" are being done because kids are having sex on the dance floors of proms, and they come without underwear to make the deed easier.  Yes, I know it sounds completely unbelievable, but apparently it's the "cool thing" now.  The students will crowd around a couple (kind of like alley cats) to prevent chaperones from seeing, and then go back to the usual grind.  Frankly, the underwear checks are the wrong method of controlling the behavior, but school administrators have been hamstrung for so long about other methods of discipline, they're going to start overreacting like this a lot more in the near future.  "Zero Tolerance" policies for "weapons" are only the tip of the iceberg.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To put a different spin on this : I 've heard that the " underwear checks " and " underwear rules " are being done because kids are having sex on the dance floors of proms , and they come without underwear to make the deed easier .
Yes , I know it sounds completely unbelievable , but apparently it 's the " cool thing " now .
The students will crowd around a couple ( kind of like alley cats ) to prevent chaperones from seeing , and then go back to the usual grind .
Frankly , the underwear checks are the wrong method of controlling the behavior , but school administrators have been hamstrung for so long about other methods of discipline , they 're going to start overreacting like this a lot more in the near future .
" Zero Tolerance " policies for " weapons " are only the tip of the iceberg .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To put a different spin on this:  I've heard that the "underwear checks" and "underwear rules" are being done because kids are having sex on the dance floors of proms, and they come without underwear to make the deed easier.
Yes, I know it sounds completely unbelievable, but apparently it's the "cool thing" now.
The students will crowd around a couple (kind of like alley cats) to prevent chaperones from seeing, and then go back to the usual grind.
Frankly, the underwear checks are the wrong method of controlling the behavior, but school administrators have been hamstrung for so long about other methods of discipline, they're going to start overreacting like this a lot more in the near future.
"Zero Tolerance" policies for "weapons" are only the tip of the iceberg.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233930</id>
	<title>Mike And Ikes == Bad Behavior</title>
	<author>Black Gold Alchemist</author>
	<datestamp>1266871020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why? because most school administrators love overstepping their authority, and being jerks. One the things they have been trying to do is prevent students from eating "junk-food", so given their nature, they would like to try to prevent this at home. At some local schools, they ripped out all the good food and replaced it with "organic" crud. No one ate it, and all just rotted - so they were forced to go back to the "junk-food". School administrators have no checks and balances on their authority, and behave as one would expect. It's a window into what would happen if there were no checks and balances on the president (no supreme court, senate, house, etc.). It should also be noted that some students are actually sick, or were actually sick (me), and needed to pop prescription drugs, including commonly abused ones. I don't want to know what that's like in normal school.<br> <br>
Glad I'm a homeschooler.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
because most school administrators love overstepping their authority , and being jerks .
One the things they have been trying to do is prevent students from eating " junk-food " , so given their nature , they would like to try to prevent this at home .
At some local schools , they ripped out all the good food and replaced it with " organic " crud .
No one ate it , and all just rotted - so they were forced to go back to the " junk-food " .
School administrators have no checks and balances on their authority , and behave as one would expect .
It 's a window into what would happen if there were no checks and balances on the president ( no supreme court , senate , house , etc. ) .
It should also be noted that some students are actually sick , or were actually sick ( me ) , and needed to pop prescription drugs , including commonly abused ones .
I do n't want to know what that 's like in normal school .
Glad I 'm a homeschooler .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
because most school administrators love overstepping their authority, and being jerks.
One the things they have been trying to do is prevent students from eating "junk-food", so given their nature, they would like to try to prevent this at home.
At some local schools, they ripped out all the good food and replaced it with "organic" crud.
No one ate it, and all just rotted - so they were forced to go back to the "junk-food".
School administrators have no checks and balances on their authority, and behave as one would expect.
It's a window into what would happen if there were no checks and balances on the president (no supreme court, senate, house, etc.).
It should also be noted that some students are actually sick, or were actually sick (me), and needed to pop prescription drugs, including commonly abused ones.
I don't want to know what that's like in normal school.
Glad I'm a homeschooler.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31237880</id>
	<title>Re:To be fair</title>
	<author>Fastolfe</author>
	<datestamp>1266840480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're still assuming that the student's allegations are fact.  The truth is that we don't know where the image came from.  All we know is that the student apparently denies taking it, and the school installs anti-theft software on their laptops (as one might expect), and that anti-theft software has the means to remotely activate the webcam (as most consumers of anti-theft software demand).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're still assuming that the student 's allegations are fact .
The truth is that we do n't know where the image came from .
All we know is that the student apparently denies taking it , and the school installs anti-theft software on their laptops ( as one might expect ) , and that anti-theft software has the means to remotely activate the webcam ( as most consumers of anti-theft software demand ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're still assuming that the student's allegations are fact.
The truth is that we don't know where the image came from.
All we know is that the student apparently denies taking it, and the school installs anti-theft software on their laptops (as one might expect), and that anti-theft software has the means to remotely activate the webcam (as most consumers of anti-theft software demand).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233360</id>
	<title>Original quote</title>
	<author>odin84gk</author>
	<datestamp>1266869100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The original clip that specified Mike and Ikes.:</p><p>http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/tech/WebcamGate\_Family\_s\_Attorney\_\_\_Who\_Has\_Access\_\_Philadelphia.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The original clip that specified Mike and Ikes .
: http : //www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/tech/WebcamGate \ _Family \ _s \ _Attorney \ _ \ _ \ _Who \ _Has \ _Access \ _ \ _Philadelphia.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The original clip that specified Mike and Ikes.
:http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/tech/WebcamGate\_Family\_s\_Attorney\_\_\_Who\_Has\_Access\_\_Philadelphia.html</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31233278</id>
	<title>eh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266868860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>School officials are notorious for being completely clueless about the law; it's amazing what you find in some of the case law.</htmltext>
<tokenext>School officials are notorious for being completely clueless about the law ; it 's amazing what you find in some of the case law .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>School officials are notorious for being completely clueless about the law; it's amazing what you find in some of the case law.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31240778</id>
	<title>Re:The Real Issue</title>
	<author>ridgecritter</author>
	<datestamp>1266860640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>On point 1, you're quite correct (IAAL).  Giving notice of your intent to perform an illegal action upon you does not make the action legal.  So, when I tell you I'm going to park a 38 in your brain because my cousin Vinnie paid me 5 large to do it, I still will be tried for murder even though I was kind enough to give you notice of my action.

The responsible school district personnel should do serious time for this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>On point 1 , you 're quite correct ( IAAL ) .
Giving notice of your intent to perform an illegal action upon you does not make the action legal .
So , when I tell you I 'm going to park a 38 in your brain because my cousin Vinnie paid me 5 large to do it , I still will be tried for murder even though I was kind enough to give you notice of my action .
The responsible school district personnel should do serious time for this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On point 1, you're quite correct (IAAL).
Giving notice of your intent to perform an illegal action upon you does not make the action legal.
So, when I tell you I'm going to park a 38 in your brain because my cousin Vinnie paid me 5 large to do it, I still will be tried for murder even though I was kind enough to give you notice of my action.
The responsible school district personnel should do serious time for this.</sentencetext>
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	<title>The software : Absolute Manage</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1266838200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This in from Computerworld:</p><p><i>The company selling the software used by a Pennsylvania school district to allegedly spy on its students blasted what it called laptop theft-recovery "vigilantism" today.</i></p><p><i>Absolute Software said it dissuades users of theft-recovery software from acting on their own. "We discourage any customer from taking theft recovery into their own hands," said Stephen Midgley, the company's head of marketing, in an interview Monday. "That's best left in the hands of professionals."</i></p><p><i>Midgley confirmed that Lower Merion School District of Ardmore, Pa. was running Absolute Manage, formerly known as LANRev, which Absolute Software acquired last December. The suburban Philadelphia school district purchased and deployed LANRev prior to Absolute's acquisition, he said, noting that most school districts buy the software for power management features that let IT staff remotely power down systems.</i></p><p><i>Calling LANRev a "legacy" product, Midgley also said that Absolute would ship an update in the next several weeks that will permanently disable Theft Track, the name of the feature that lets administrators switch on a laptop's camera to take photographs of a potential thief after the computer is reported stolen. "It really doesn't serve any purpose," said Midgley of Theft Track.</i></p><p>All its theft-recovery software relies on a different model than the former LANRev, said Midgley. "We give no theft recovery tools to our [LoJack and Computrace] customers," he said. "The only truly proven model is a managed service model."</p><p>To kick off the recovery of a stolen or lost laptop, customers first must file a police report -- not a requirement of LANRev -- and only then contact Absolute, which in turn tracks the location of the missing machine via its IP address when the system goes online. Absolute employs a team of former law enforcement professionals who reach out to local police, provide them with the location information and then get out of the way. <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9160278/Software\_maker\_blasts\_vigilantism\_in\_Pa.\_school\_spying\_case?taxonomyId=12" title="computerworld.com">Software maker blasts 'vigilantism' in Pa. school spying case </a> [computerworld.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.lanrev.com/" title="lanrev.com">Absolute Manage [LANRev] Automated Client Management for Mac and Windows Computers and Software</a> [lanrev.com] </p><p><a href="http://www.absolute.com/products/lojackforlaptops" title="absolute.com">LoJack For Laptops</a> [absolute.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This in from Computerworld : The company selling the software used by a Pennsylvania school district to allegedly spy on its students blasted what it called laptop theft-recovery " vigilantism " today.Absolute Software said it dissuades users of theft-recovery software from acting on their own .
" We discourage any customer from taking theft recovery into their own hands , " said Stephen Midgley , the company 's head of marketing , in an interview Monday .
" That 's best left in the hands of professionals .
" Midgley confirmed that Lower Merion School District of Ardmore , Pa. was running Absolute Manage , formerly known as LANRev , which Absolute Software acquired last December .
The suburban Philadelphia school district purchased and deployed LANRev prior to Absolute 's acquisition , he said , noting that most school districts buy the software for power management features that let IT staff remotely power down systems.Calling LANRev a " legacy " product , Midgley also said that Absolute would ship an update in the next several weeks that will permanently disable Theft Track , the name of the feature that lets administrators switch on a laptop 's camera to take photographs of a potential thief after the computer is reported stolen .
" It really does n't serve any purpose , " said Midgley of Theft Track.All its theft-recovery software relies on a different model than the former LANRev , said Midgley .
" We give no theft recovery tools to our [ LoJack and Computrace ] customers , " he said .
" The only truly proven model is a managed service model .
" To kick off the recovery of a stolen or lost laptop , customers first must file a police report -- not a requirement of LANRev -- and only then contact Absolute , which in turn tracks the location of the missing machine via its IP address when the system goes online .
Absolute employs a team of former law enforcement professionals who reach out to local police , provide them with the location information and then get out of the way .
Software maker blasts 'vigilantism ' in Pa. school spying case [ computerworld.com ] Absolute Manage [ LANRev ] Automated Client Management for Mac and Windows Computers and Software [ lanrev.com ] LoJack For Laptops [ absolute.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This in from Computerworld:The company selling the software used by a Pennsylvania school district to allegedly spy on its students blasted what it called laptop theft-recovery "vigilantism" today.Absolute Software said it dissuades users of theft-recovery software from acting on their own.
"We discourage any customer from taking theft recovery into their own hands," said Stephen Midgley, the company's head of marketing, in an interview Monday.
"That's best left in the hands of professionals.
"Midgley confirmed that Lower Merion School District of Ardmore, Pa. was running Absolute Manage, formerly known as LANRev, which Absolute Software acquired last December.
The suburban Philadelphia school district purchased and deployed LANRev prior to Absolute's acquisition, he said, noting that most school districts buy the software for power management features that let IT staff remotely power down systems.Calling LANRev a "legacy" product, Midgley also said that Absolute would ship an update in the next several weeks that will permanently disable Theft Track, the name of the feature that lets administrators switch on a laptop's camera to take photographs of a potential thief after the computer is reported stolen.
"It really doesn't serve any purpose," said Midgley of Theft Track.All its theft-recovery software relies on a different model than the former LANRev, said Midgley.
"We give no theft recovery tools to our [LoJack and Computrace] customers," he said.
"The only truly proven model is a managed service model.
"To kick off the recovery of a stolen or lost laptop, customers first must file a police report -- not a requirement of LANRev -- and only then contact Absolute, which in turn tracks the location of the missing machine via its IP address when the system goes online.
Absolute employs a team of former law enforcement professionals who reach out to local police, provide them with the location information and then get out of the way.
Software maker blasts 'vigilantism' in Pa. school spying case  [computerworld.com]Absolute Manage [LANRev] Automated Client Management for Mac and Windows Computers and Software [lanrev.com] LoJack For Laptops [absolute.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_1814248.31235246</id>
	<title>Re:webcam light?</title>
	<author>ThatGuyJon</author>
	<datestamp>1266831660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, yes they did notice that. When they reported it, they were told it was a malfunction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , yes they did notice that .
When they reported it , they were told it was a malfunction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, yes they did notice that.
When they reported it, they were told it was a malfunction.</sentencetext>
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