<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_19_1936209</id>
	<title>2010 &mdash; the Year AACS and HDMI Kill Off HD Component Video</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1266609120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>For home theater buffs who want (or already have) a high-def system using component-video connections, time may be growing short. Audiofan writes with this story, which begins: <i>"Digital HD (high definition), like that enabled through HDMI and Blu-ray, is awesome. It offers amazing picture and audio quality. It allows you to conveniently connect one single cable to provide both picture and sound. It is royally <a href="http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/aacs-hdmi-kill-component-2010">going to screw up a lot of homes next year</a>. Wait, what was that last part? After December 31, 2010, manufacturers will not be 'allowed' [to] introduce new hardware with component video outputs supplying more than an SD resolution (480i or 576i). Should this go through as planned, it's going to disable or throw a wrench in a lot of existing custom installations as soon as the end of this year."</i> The AACS in the headline stands for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced\_Access\_Content\_System">Advanced Access Content System</a>, the industry scheme to block "the analog hole" by controlling content from storage media to eyeballs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For home theater buffs who want ( or already have ) a high-def system using component-video connections , time may be growing short .
Audiofan writes with this story , which begins : " Digital HD ( high definition ) , like that enabled through HDMI and Blu-ray , is awesome .
It offers amazing picture and audio quality .
It allows you to conveniently connect one single cable to provide both picture and sound .
It is royally going to screw up a lot of homes next year .
Wait , what was that last part ?
After December 31 , 2010 , manufacturers will not be 'allowed ' [ to ] introduce new hardware with component video outputs supplying more than an SD resolution ( 480i or 576i ) .
Should this go through as planned , it 's going to disable or throw a wrench in a lot of existing custom installations as soon as the end of this year .
" The AACS in the headline stands for Advanced Access Content System , the industry scheme to block " the analog hole " by controlling content from storage media to eyeballs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For home theater buffs who want (or already have) a high-def system using component-video connections, time may be growing short.
Audiofan writes with this story, which begins: "Digital HD (high definition), like that enabled through HDMI and Blu-ray, is awesome.
It offers amazing picture and audio quality.
It allows you to conveniently connect one single cable to provide both picture and sound.
It is royally going to screw up a lot of homes next year.
Wait, what was that last part?
After December 31, 2010, manufacturers will not be 'allowed' [to] introduce new hardware with component video outputs supplying more than an SD resolution (480i or 576i).
Should this go through as planned, it's going to disable or throw a wrench in a lot of existing custom installations as soon as the end of this year.
" The AACS in the headline stands for Advanced Access Content System, the industry scheme to block "the analog hole" by controlling content from storage media to eyeballs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205368</id>
	<title>Personally, I say "so fucking what?"</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1266579480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't own a HDTV or a Blu-ray player, and have no immediate plans to purchase any of the above because I have better things to do with my money. <b>I can live without these things</b>. It would be nice to have, but if they're going to play bullshit DRM games with the hardware, then <b>they can fucking keep it</b>, I'll spend my money on other things, and they can <b>go fuck themselves</b>. I recommend everyone else do the same; vote with your dollars, that's the only way to make your voice heard in a capitalist system!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't own a HDTV or a Blu-ray player , and have no immediate plans to purchase any of the above because I have better things to do with my money .
I can live without these things .
It would be nice to have , but if they 're going to play bullshit DRM games with the hardware , then they can fucking keep it , I 'll spend my money on other things , and they can go fuck themselves .
I recommend everyone else do the same ; vote with your dollars , that 's the only way to make your voice heard in a capitalist system !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't own a HDTV or a Blu-ray player, and have no immediate plans to purchase any of the above because I have better things to do with my money.
I can live without these things.
It would be nice to have, but if they're going to play bullshit DRM games with the hardware, then they can fucking keep it, I'll spend my money on other things, and they can go fuck themselves.
I recommend everyone else do the same; vote with your dollars, that's the only way to make your voice heard in a capitalist system!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203264</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>anything less than 1080p isn't high def either.</p><p>I mean we're talking 720p is 1280x720. That's not exactly high resolution when you think of what the average monitor from 1990 or even 2000 can do, let alone now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>anything less than 1080p is n't high def either.I mean we 're talking 720p is 1280x720 .
That 's not exactly high resolution when you think of what the average monitor from 1990 or even 2000 can do , let alone now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>anything less than 1080p isn't high def either.I mean we're talking 720p is 1280x720.
That's not exactly high resolution when you think of what the average monitor from 1990 or even 2000 can do, let alone now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203034</id>
	<title>Where?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where is this happening? Dare I <i>assume</i> the United States? Epic description fail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where is this happening ?
Dare I assume the United States ?
Epic description fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where is this happening?
Dare I assume the United States?
Epic description fail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203206</id>
	<title>No more intelligent responses...</title>
	<author>fruitbane</author>
	<datestamp>1266570600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I typically try to express some kind of intelligent or informed opinion on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. stories, but all I can come up with here is, "Screw you, AACS." I have not yet moved to Blu-Ray or an HD TV, and this makes me much less likely to want to. Bastards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I typically try to express some kind of intelligent or informed opinion on / .
stories , but all I can come up with here is , " Screw you , AACS .
" I have not yet moved to Blu-Ray or an HD TV , and this makes me much less likely to want to .
Bastards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I typically try to express some kind of intelligent or informed opinion on /.
stories, but all I can come up with here is, "Screw you, AACS.
" I have not yet moved to Blu-Ray or an HD TV, and this makes me much less likely to want to.
Bastards.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207892</id>
	<title>Fuck AACS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266601740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://fuckaacs.com/" title="fuckaacs.com" rel="nofollow">http://fuckaacs.com/</a> [fuckaacs.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //fuckaacs.com/ [ fuckaacs.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://fuckaacs.com/ [fuckaacs.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31208760</id>
	<title>Re:Why force the market?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266660240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not as similar as you think.</p><p>A reasonably intelligent person can produce alcohol with a few tools brought from the hardware store. You need a medium to large specialist manufacturing base to attempt to produce 'non-compliant' hardware.</p><p>Technology has moved on. Now we're reliant on the big companies to provide for us. Increasingly, the individual will not be able to compete on his/her own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not as similar as you think.A reasonably intelligent person can produce alcohol with a few tools brought from the hardware store .
You need a medium to large specialist manufacturing base to attempt to produce 'non-compliant ' hardware.Technology has moved on .
Now we 're reliant on the big companies to provide for us .
Increasingly , the individual will not be able to compete on his/her own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not as similar as you think.A reasonably intelligent person can produce alcohol with a few tools brought from the hardware store.
You need a medium to large specialist manufacturing base to attempt to produce 'non-compliant' hardware.Technology has moved on.
Now we're reliant on the big companies to provide for us.
Increasingly, the individual will not be able to compete on his/her own.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203398</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205468</id>
	<title>ha Ha!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266580080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At what point will you stop rewarding these people with your money?</p><p>Turn your back on these bastards....stop consuming what dreck they pimp.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At what point will you stop rewarding these people with your money ? Turn your back on these bastards....stop consuming what dreck they pimp .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At what point will you stop rewarding these people with your money?Turn your back on these bastards....stop consuming what dreck they pimp.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203172</id>
	<title>Optical storage is dead anyway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is so much streaming stuff out there now, torrents of stuff ripped from streams and paid downloaded movies that optical storage is not really necessary or useful anymore. I have never had more problems with optical media than anything else, discs that go bad after a certain time, coasters and silly copy protection schemes.<br> <br>

Blu-ray is the latest mainstream optical storage has to offer and it's a nasty proprietary format pushed forward by the notorious DRM worshippers that are Sony. The discs are too expensive and fewer people are going out to buy movies. There isn't much point either since when you buy it it's not even yours. <br> <br>

Unless low-cost holographic storage becomes available without restrictions or DRM I'd say optical storage has had it's day. and anyone developing optical storage these days has to be in the least position to force DRM on the market. The SD card guys have had much more luck with peddling DRM to the masses and I expect that SD-DRM usage will become widespread any day now</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is so much streaming stuff out there now , torrents of stuff ripped from streams and paid downloaded movies that optical storage is not really necessary or useful anymore .
I have never had more problems with optical media than anything else , discs that go bad after a certain time , coasters and silly copy protection schemes .
Blu-ray is the latest mainstream optical storage has to offer and it 's a nasty proprietary format pushed forward by the notorious DRM worshippers that are Sony .
The discs are too expensive and fewer people are going out to buy movies .
There is n't much point either since when you buy it it 's not even yours .
Unless low-cost holographic storage becomes available without restrictions or DRM I 'd say optical storage has had it 's day .
and anyone developing optical storage these days has to be in the least position to force DRM on the market .
The SD card guys have had much more luck with peddling DRM to the masses and I expect that SD-DRM usage will become widespread any day now</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is so much streaming stuff out there now, torrents of stuff ripped from streams and paid downloaded movies that optical storage is not really necessary or useful anymore.
I have never had more problems with optical media than anything else, discs that go bad after a certain time, coasters and silly copy protection schemes.
Blu-ray is the latest mainstream optical storage has to offer and it's a nasty proprietary format pushed forward by the notorious DRM worshippers that are Sony.
The discs are too expensive and fewer people are going out to buy movies.
There isn't much point either since when you buy it it's not even yours.
Unless low-cost holographic storage becomes available without restrictions or DRM I'd say optical storage has had it's day.
and anyone developing optical storage these days has to be in the least position to force DRM on the market.
The SD card guys have had much more luck with peddling DRM to the masses and I expect that SD-DRM usage will become widespread any day now</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203366</id>
	<title>Re:no analogue holes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266571200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can remember when I only saw them in audio supply catalogs. At the time you didn't purchase a Monster cable because of their "wooden knob" claims (though they did stretch the truth, even back then), instead you bought them because of the lifetime warranty. Sure, I just paid $100 for a 20 foot guitar cable, but it "should" be the last 20 foot guitar cable I have to buy. No idea if they still do that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can remember when I only saw them in audio supply catalogs .
At the time you did n't purchase a Monster cable because of their " wooden knob " claims ( though they did stretch the truth , even back then ) , instead you bought them because of the lifetime warranty .
Sure , I just paid $ 100 for a 20 foot guitar cable , but it " should " be the last 20 foot guitar cable I have to buy .
No idea if they still do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can remember when I only saw them in audio supply catalogs.
At the time you didn't purchase a Monster cable because of their "wooden knob" claims (though they did stretch the truth, even back then), instead you bought them because of the lifetime warranty.
Sure, I just paid $100 for a 20 foot guitar cable, but it "should" be the last 20 foot guitar cable I have to buy.
No idea if they still do that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203048</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205550</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>Brianwa</author>
	<datestamp>1266580620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Plus there are those of us who use a HDTV that doesn't support HDMI. . .</htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus there are those of us who use a HDTV that does n't support HDMI .
. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus there are those of us who use a HDTV that doesn't support HDMI.
. .</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202986</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206948</id>
	<title>There is a very simple and effective solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266591360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't like the technology limitations or the licence terms, STOP WATCHING!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't like the technology limitations or the licence terms , STOP WATCHING !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't like the technology limitations or the licence terms, STOP WATCHING!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31263862</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>drsmithy</author>
	<datestamp>1265102220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>If they start doing AACS, and forcing encryption over HDMI, then if I buy a new component that meets the new standard; I either need to buy a very expensive receiver, or just watch video's in my room with the wonderful craptacular speakers built into my TV.</i>
</p><p>Huh ?  Cheap, low-end receivers with HDMI support have been around for years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they start doing AACS , and forcing encryption over HDMI , then if I buy a new component that meets the new standard ; I either need to buy a very expensive receiver , or just watch video 's in my room with the wonderful craptacular speakers built into my TV .
Huh ?
Cheap , low-end receivers with HDMI support have been around for years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> If they start doing AACS, and forcing encryption over HDMI, then if I buy a new component that meets the new standard; I either need to buy a very expensive receiver, or just watch video's in my room with the wonderful craptacular speakers built into my TV.
Huh ?
Cheap, low-end receivers with HDMI support have been around for years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204852</id>
	<title>Re:The Real Analog Hole</title>
	<author>LaminatorX</author>
	<datestamp>1266576960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Both the lens and the image sensor would need an order of magnitude more resolution than the display for this to even be close to working.  That's even before accounting for uncorrected edge curvature distortions in the lens, perspective skew if the sensor and display are not perfectly parallel, aliasing due to sync/frame-rate discrepancies, screen glare, lens flare, light pollution, color spaces...</p><p>There's a reason I used to charge $$-$$$ to photograph works of art for reproduction. It takes a whole lot of know-how, attention to detail, and precisely calibrated hardware to make <b>one</b> near-perfect copy. Making dozens per-second in your living room would require technology indistinguishable from magic.  Perhaps someday, but not any time soon.</p><p>For all that, some people watch bootlegs made in theatres with hand-held phone-cams.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Both the lens and the image sensor would need an order of magnitude more resolution than the display for this to even be close to working .
That 's even before accounting for uncorrected edge curvature distortions in the lens , perspective skew if the sensor and display are not perfectly parallel , aliasing due to sync/frame-rate discrepancies , screen glare , lens flare , light pollution , color spaces...There 's a reason I used to charge $ $ - $ $ $ to photograph works of art for reproduction .
It takes a whole lot of know-how , attention to detail , and precisely calibrated hardware to make one near-perfect copy .
Making dozens per-second in your living room would require technology indistinguishable from magic .
Perhaps someday , but not any time soon.For all that , some people watch bootlegs made in theatres with hand-held phone-cams .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both the lens and the image sensor would need an order of magnitude more resolution than the display for this to even be close to working.
That's even before accounting for uncorrected edge curvature distortions in the lens, perspective skew if the sensor and display are not perfectly parallel, aliasing due to sync/frame-rate discrepancies, screen glare, lens flare, light pollution, color spaces...There's a reason I used to charge $$-$$$ to photograph works of art for reproduction.
It takes a whole lot of know-how, attention to detail, and precisely calibrated hardware to make one near-perfect copy.
Making dozens per-second in your living room would require technology indistinguishable from magic.
Perhaps someday, but not any time soon.For all that, some people watch bootlegs made in theatres with hand-held phone-cams.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204100</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266573900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know whether you're serious about $60 HDMI cables (I'm also assuming you are actually talking about the cables), but I get my generic HDMI cables off Amazon for about $3, and they are perfectly fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know whether you 're serious about $ 60 HDMI cables ( I 'm also assuming you are actually talking about the cables ) , but I get my generic HDMI cables off Amazon for about $ 3 , and they are perfectly fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know whether you're serious about $60 HDMI cables (I'm also assuming you are actually talking about the cables), but I get my generic HDMI cables off Amazon for about $3, and they are perfectly fine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202986</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203542</id>
	<title>Re:Are the manufacturers getting more greedy</title>
	<author>Nadaka</author>
	<datestamp>1266571800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They won't. They will last approximately 2 weeks after the warranty expires and then they will die. You might want to experiment with setting the system clock forwards and see what happens.[/paranoia]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They wo n't .
They will last approximately 2 weeks after the warranty expires and then they will die .
You might want to experiment with setting the system clock forwards and see what happens .
[ /paranoia ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They won't.
They will last approximately 2 weeks after the warranty expires and then they will die.
You might want to experiment with setting the system clock forwards and see what happens.
[/paranoia]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207764</id>
	<title>Re:Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>Rocketship Underpant</author>
	<datestamp>1266600240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm with you. I've chosen not to board the Blu-Ray train/bag-o'-hurt, and I haven't bought a DVD in years The media oligopoly has clearly shown they despise me and don't want me as a customer, though they lust after the contents of my wallet and would rob me on the subway if they ever had a chance. Screw them.</p><p>Internet + FrontRow + iMac 27 is all I need for media now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm with you .
I 've chosen not to board the Blu-Ray train/bag-o'-hurt , and I have n't bought a DVD in years The media oligopoly has clearly shown they despise me and do n't want me as a customer , though they lust after the contents of my wallet and would rob me on the subway if they ever had a chance .
Screw them.Internet + FrontRow + iMac 27 is all I need for media now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm with you.
I've chosen not to board the Blu-Ray train/bag-o'-hurt, and I haven't bought a DVD in years The media oligopoly has clearly shown they despise me and don't want me as a customer, though they lust after the contents of my wallet and would rob me on the subway if they ever had a chance.
Screw them.Internet + FrontRow + iMac 27 is all I need for media now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203148</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203146</id>
	<title>Hmmm...time to buy</title>
	<author>HikingStick</author>
	<datestamp>1266570420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I were one with a little extra cash (or a lot of available credit), I might just buy up a lot of the desirable components now, and then make a modest margin by reselling them on Amazon or eBay after remaining stocks dwindle.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were one with a little extra cash ( or a lot of available credit ) , I might just buy up a lot of the desirable components now , and then make a modest margin by reselling them on Amazon or eBay after remaining stocks dwindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were one with a little extra cash (or a lot of available credit), I might just buy up a lot of the desirable components now, and then make a modest margin by reselling them on Amazon or eBay after remaining stocks dwindle.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31209444</id>
	<title>Re:HDMI = PITA</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1266673440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it works at all... my HDTV only works when plugged in directly via a source, when going through the reciever which has HDMI inputs and outputs it doesn't work. It works with my monitor and I found on the net it's a known HDCP handshake timing issue. Screw them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it works at all... my HDTV only works when plugged in directly via a source , when going through the reciever which has HDMI inputs and outputs it does n't work .
It works with my monitor and I found on the net it 's a known HDCP handshake timing issue .
Screw them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it works at all... my HDTV only works when plugged in directly via a source, when going through the reciever which has HDMI inputs and outputs it doesn't work.
It works with my monitor and I found on the net it's a known HDCP handshake timing issue.
Screw them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203222</id>
	<title>Oblig...</title>
	<author>AmigaHeretic</author>
	<datestamp>1266570660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Though not exactly on topic, I feel like I should post this like I always do...
<br> <br>
<b>"24K gold-plated connectors help protect the cable's optical lens to ensure consistent signal transfer"</b>
<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketfish\%26\%23153\%3B+-+8'+Digital+Optical+Cable/8315147.p?id=1174694191675&amp;skuId=8315147&amp;st=optical" title="bestbuy.com">http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketfish\%26\%23153\%3B+-+8'+Digital+Optical+Cable/8315147.p?id=1174694191675&amp;skuId=8315147&amp;st=optical</a> [bestbuy.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Though not exactly on topic , I feel like I should post this like I always do.. . " 24K gold-plated connectors help protect the cable 's optical lens to ensure consistent signal transfer " http : //www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketfish \ % 26 \ % 23153 \ % 3B + - + 8 ' + Digital + Optical + Cable/8315147.p ? id = 1174694191675&amp;skuId = 8315147&amp;st = optical [ bestbuy.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Though not exactly on topic, I feel like I should post this like I always do...
 
"24K gold-plated connectors help protect the cable's optical lens to ensure consistent signal transfer"
 
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketfish\%26\%23153\%3B+-+8'+Digital+Optical+Cable/8315147.p?id=1174694191675&amp;skuId=8315147&amp;st=optical [bestbuy.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204530</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>ucblockhead</author>
	<datestamp>1266575880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you bought an HDMI cable for $60, you are an idiot.  I bought an 8' one at Frys for $14.95 last weekend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you bought an HDMI cable for $ 60 , you are an idiot .
I bought an 8 ' one at Frys for $ 14.95 last weekend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you bought an HDMI cable for $60, you are an idiot.
I bought an 8' one at Frys for $14.95 last weekend.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203370</id>
	<title>Re:Bye bye Wii</title>
	<author>ArsonSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1266571200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope they call it the WiiII</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope they call it the WiiII</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope they call it the WiiII</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31235390</id>
	<title>dvd</title>
	<author>Sharonmobile</author>
	<datestamp>1266832080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Depends which side of the fence you are on   -
Sometimes people just do not realise the consequences of their actions and copyright rules, more needs to be done in order to educate people to the rules..<nobr> <wbr></nobr><a href="http://www.pinksimfree.co.uk/" title="pinksimfree.co.uk" rel="nofollow">.</a> [pinksimfree.co.uk]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends which side of the fence you are on - Sometimes people just do not realise the consequences of their actions and copyright rules , more needs to be done in order to educate people to the rules.. . [ pinksimfree.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends which side of the fence you are on   -
Sometimes people just do not realise the consequences of their actions and copyright rules, more needs to be done in order to educate people to the rules.. . [pinksimfree.co.uk]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31209272</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1266670860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am in a similar boat, but for a different reason: Whether I do not watch a lame, story-less movie in 720 or in 1050, does it matter? Crap remains crap, it doesn't get better just because you can see so much better that it really is crap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am in a similar boat , but for a different reason : Whether I do not watch a lame , story-less movie in 720 or in 1050 , does it matter ?
Crap remains crap , it does n't get better just because you can see so much better that it really is crap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am in a similar boat, but for a different reason: Whether I do not watch a lame, story-less movie in 720 or in 1050, does it matter?
Crap remains crap, it doesn't get better just because you can see so much better that it really is crap.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207420</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266596700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forgot the $1200 Geek Squad "Special" HDMI cable</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot the $ 1200 Geek Squad " Special " HDMI cable</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot the $1200 Geek Squad "Special" HDMI cable</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31209216</id>
	<title>Re:no analogue holes</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1266669780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Every time someone mentions Monster, I want to post something reasonable-sounding that encourages people to buy overpriced cables.  Not because I think they actually make a difference, I just think it's dangerous for fools to have money (with which they could possibly buy influence), and Monster does a good job at reducing this public danger.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Every time someone mentions Monster , I want to post something reasonable-sounding that encourages people to buy overpriced cables .
Not because I think they actually make a difference , I just think it 's dangerous for fools to have money ( with which they could possibly buy influence ) , and Monster does a good job at reducing this public danger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every time someone mentions Monster, I want to post something reasonable-sounding that encourages people to buy overpriced cables.
Not because I think they actually make a difference, I just think it's dangerous for fools to have money (with which they could possibly buy influence), and Monster does a good job at reducing this public danger.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207804</id>
	<title>Big deal...</title>
	<author>jonwil</author>
	<datestamp>1266600660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet the amount of piracy that has happened since Blu-Ray and AACS came out that would have been prevented by this change (i.e. no 1080 output over unprotected outputs) is essentially zero.</p><p>Anyone who wants to pirate will likely A.Use a ripping program (perhaps on a copy of the disk they rented from Blockbuster or Netflix) or B.Download a copy from the internet</p><p>Ripping programs exist (or if they dont they likely will soon) that can run on Windows and can do single-click ripping of Blu-Ray disks into a file that you can then play with a suitable player (removing all the protection including AACS, BD+, ICT, Macrovision and Region flags in the process)</p><p>And with the growth of HTPCs methods to easily play the pirated content back on the 50" TV in the media room will continue to grow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet the amount of piracy that has happened since Blu-Ray and AACS came out that would have been prevented by this change ( i.e .
no 1080 output over unprotected outputs ) is essentially zero.Anyone who wants to pirate will likely A.Use a ripping program ( perhaps on a copy of the disk they rented from Blockbuster or Netflix ) or B.Download a copy from the internetRipping programs exist ( or if they dont they likely will soon ) that can run on Windows and can do single-click ripping of Blu-Ray disks into a file that you can then play with a suitable player ( removing all the protection including AACS , BD + , ICT , Macrovision and Region flags in the process ) And with the growth of HTPCs methods to easily play the pirated content back on the 50 " TV in the media room will continue to grow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet the amount of piracy that has happened since Blu-Ray and AACS came out that would have been prevented by this change (i.e.
no 1080 output over unprotected outputs) is essentially zero.Anyone who wants to pirate will likely A.Use a ripping program (perhaps on a copy of the disk they rented from Blockbuster or Netflix) or B.Download a copy from the internetRipping programs exist (or if they dont they likely will soon) that can run on Windows and can do single-click ripping of Blu-Ray disks into a file that you can then play with a suitable player (removing all the protection including AACS, BD+, ICT, Macrovision and Region flags in the process)And with the growth of HTPCs methods to easily play the pirated content back on the 50" TV in the media room will continue to grow.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206826</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig...</title>
	<author>crono\_deus</author>
	<datestamp>1266589800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <b>What's great about it:</b> an excellent value for the money</p><p>
<b>What's not so great:</b> haven't found one so far</p><p>
Reviewer says: <i>"These days, it's mostly about the Benjamins. These cables more than adequately fulfill their purpose albeit with a cheaper purchase price." </i> </p></div><p>Oh, I'm sure they do...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's great about it : an excellent value for the money What 's not so great : have n't found one so far Reviewer says : " These days , it 's mostly about the Benjamins .
These cables more than adequately fulfill their purpose albeit with a cheaper purchase price .
" Oh , I 'm sure they do.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> What's great about it: an excellent value for the money
What's not so great: haven't found one so far
Reviewer says: "These days, it's mostly about the Benjamins.
These cables more than adequately fulfill their purpose albeit with a cheaper purchase price.
"  Oh, I'm sure they do...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31208048</id>
	<title>DRM BS Again?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266604020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you trying to get me hyped up again about some kind of DRM BS? Is this a DRM backdoor story? WTF? Didn't you hear me the first time? NO MORE FN DRM. It's a frikkin cable. F. Why the F do we need DRM? WHY WHY WHY? Arrest the MFers who pirate the shit and leave every one else alone.</p><p>F.  I'm not buying no fn DRM cable BS.  None.  F U.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you trying to get me hyped up again about some kind of DRM BS ?
Is this a DRM backdoor story ?
WTF ? Did n't you hear me the first time ?
NO MORE FN DRM .
It 's a frikkin cable .
F. Why the F do we need DRM ?
WHY WHY WHY ?
Arrest the MFers who pirate the shit and leave every one else alone.F .
I 'm not buying no fn DRM cable BS .
None. F U .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you trying to get me hyped up again about some kind of DRM BS?
Is this a DRM backdoor story?
WTF? Didn't you hear me the first time?
NO MORE FN DRM.
It's a frikkin cable.
F. Why the F do we need DRM?
WHY WHY WHY?
Arrest the MFers who pirate the shit and leave every one else alone.F.
I'm not buying no fn DRM cable BS.
None.  F U.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203322</id>
	<title>Re:Bye bye Wii</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266571020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What? The Wii isn't new hardware, and it doesn't rely on other devices supplying HD over composite outputs either, they need only accept it over composite inputs, which don't have anything to do with the matter at hand. This doesn't affect the Wii in any way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
The Wii is n't new hardware , and it does n't rely on other devices supplying HD over composite outputs either , they need only accept it over composite inputs , which do n't have anything to do with the matter at hand .
This does n't affect the Wii in any way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
The Wii isn't new hardware, and it doesn't rely on other devices supplying HD over composite outputs either, they need only accept it over composite inputs, which don't have anything to do with the matter at hand.
This doesn't affect the Wii in any way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203604</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>QuantumRiff</author>
	<datestamp>1266571980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted.  Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system (minus a few very, very high end ones) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI.  I have my DVD player, and Boxee box outputting HDMI to the reciever.  It strips the digital audio out of the system, and then passes the video on to the TV.</p><p>If they start doing AACS, and forcing encryption over HDMI, then if I buy a new component that meets the new standard; I either need to buy a very expensive receiver, or just watch video's in my room with the wonderful craptacular speakers built into my TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted .
Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system ( minus a few very , very high end ones ) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI .
I have my DVD player , and Boxee box outputting HDMI to the reciever .
It strips the digital audio out of the system , and then passes the video on to the TV.If they start doing AACS , and forcing encryption over HDMI , then if I buy a new component that meets the new standard ; I either need to buy a very expensive receiver , or just watch video 's in my room with the wonderful craptacular speakers built into my TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted.
Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system (minus a few very, very high end ones) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI.
I have my DVD player, and Boxee box outputting HDMI to the reciever.
It strips the digital audio out of the system, and then passes the video on to the TV.If they start doing AACS, and forcing encryption over HDMI, then if I buy a new component that meets the new standard; I either need to buy a very expensive receiver, or just watch video's in my room with the wonderful craptacular speakers built into my TV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203480</id>
	<title>Re:Where?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266571620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everywhere.  This is a licensing requirement to be able to play protected content, not a US regulatory requirement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everywhere .
This is a licensing requirement to be able to play protected content , not a US regulatory requirement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everywhere.
This is a licensing requirement to be able to play protected content, not a US regulatory requirement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203048</id>
	<title>no analogue holes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure there will be a $1000 cable from Monster that has 'no analogue holes'. "Use this for your composite video to ensure you get the best composite signal with no analogue holes" Buyers will SWEAR their 480i show 'looks as good as HD'. I love Monster Cable, they collect 'stupid tax'.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure there will be a $ 1000 cable from Monster that has 'no analogue holes' .
" Use this for your composite video to ensure you get the best composite signal with no analogue holes " Buyers will SWEAR their 480i show 'looks as good as HD' .
I love Monster Cable , they collect 'stupid tax' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure there will be a $1000 cable from Monster that has 'no analogue holes'.
"Use this for your composite video to ensure you get the best composite signal with no analogue holes" Buyers will SWEAR their 480i show 'looks as good as HD'.
I love Monster Cable, they collect 'stupid tax'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204502</id>
	<title>Yes...and no...</title>
	<author>Overzeetop</author>
	<datestamp>1266575760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would highly recommend purchasing Slysoft's AnyDVD HD. Yes, it will set you back $100, plus about $50/yr (they've gone to subscription since they continuously crack the BR keys - but they are very good at it). Once you have this in place, you can play the content you've purchased on any output from your machine. You can even back up the raw, unencrypted content so that you can play it with any software player which has the base (VC-1/x264) codec installed.</p><p>Trust me, if you have a Windows based media PC, you want AnyDVD (HD).  And you want to support Slysoft with your money so that they keep on top of the cracks which prevent you from enjoying the items you've purchased.</p><p>(note: I am not affiliated in any way with Slysoft, except as a 4+ year satisfied customer with a 300+ title library on HD which I ripped from my own collection)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would highly recommend purchasing Slysoft 's AnyDVD HD .
Yes , it will set you back $ 100 , plus about $ 50/yr ( they 've gone to subscription since they continuously crack the BR keys - but they are very good at it ) .
Once you have this in place , you can play the content you 've purchased on any output from your machine .
You can even back up the raw , unencrypted content so that you can play it with any software player which has the base ( VC-1/x264 ) codec installed.Trust me , if you have a Windows based media PC , you want AnyDVD ( HD ) .
And you want to support Slysoft with your money so that they keep on top of the cracks which prevent you from enjoying the items you 've purchased .
( note : I am not affiliated in any way with Slysoft , except as a 4 + year satisfied customer with a 300 + title library on HD which I ripped from my own collection )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would highly recommend purchasing Slysoft's AnyDVD HD.
Yes, it will set you back $100, plus about $50/yr (they've gone to subscription since they continuously crack the BR keys - but they are very good at it).
Once you have this in place, you can play the content you've purchased on any output from your machine.
You can even back up the raw, unencrypted content so that you can play it with any software player which has the base (VC-1/x264) codec installed.Trust me, if you have a Windows based media PC, you want AnyDVD (HD).
And you want to support Slysoft with your money so that they keep on top of the cracks which prevent you from enjoying the items you've purchased.
(note: I am not affiliated in any way with Slysoft, except as a 4+ year satisfied customer with a 300+ title library on HD which I ripped from my own collection)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31208704</id>
	<title>Re:This will hurt many businesses...</title>
	<author>Turmio</author>
	<datestamp>1266659280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can run HDMI over Cat5/6... <a href="http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21489" title="dealextreme.com">http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21489</a> [dealextreme.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can run HDMI over Cat5/6... http : //www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21489 [ dealextreme.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can run HDMI over Cat5/6... http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21489 [dealextreme.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205354</id>
	<title>Re:So, basically, don't bother buying blu-ray?</title>
	<author>fritsd</author>
	<datestamp>1266579360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, that seems to be the most legal and cheap option. Maybe, if you dare, even telling your friends and family about this Blue Ray and AACP problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , that seems to be the most legal and cheap option .
Maybe , if you dare , even telling your friends and family about this Blue Ray and AACP problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, that seems to be the most legal and cheap option.
Maybe, if you dare, even telling your friends and family about this Blue Ray and AACP problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205388</id>
	<title>Re:Why force the market?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266579600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depends on if you're talking Depression, Prohibition, or both. Quite frankly if there's one thing we learned from both of those, it's that if you take something away from people completely, then give them back only a fraction of it while saying it's 'for the good of society' they'll aquiesce and you can control that thing more thoroughly and more quickly than if you attempt to change it slowly, or control it completely.</p><p>There was once a time where every town had a still.... how true is that any more?<br>How many people can make their own hard liquor in their basement?<br>How many people can make their money on wall street without being nickeled and dimed by the same scammers who caused the current crash?</p><p>What are the barriers to entry to both of these items thanks to the government regulations that went into place around them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on if you 're talking Depression , Prohibition , or both .
Quite frankly if there 's one thing we learned from both of those , it 's that if you take something away from people completely , then give them back only a fraction of it while saying it 's 'for the good of society ' they 'll aquiesce and you can control that thing more thoroughly and more quickly than if you attempt to change it slowly , or control it completely.There was once a time where every town had a still.... how true is that any more ? How many people can make their own hard liquor in their basement ? How many people can make their money on wall street without being nickeled and dimed by the same scammers who caused the current crash ? What are the barriers to entry to both of these items thanks to the government regulations that went into place around them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on if you're talking Depression, Prohibition, or both.
Quite frankly if there's one thing we learned from both of those, it's that if you take something away from people completely, then give them back only a fraction of it while saying it's 'for the good of society' they'll aquiesce and you can control that thing more thoroughly and more quickly than if you attempt to change it slowly, or control it completely.There was once a time where every town had a still.... how true is that any more?How many people can make their own hard liquor in their basement?How many people can make their money on wall street without being nickeled and dimed by the same scammers who caused the current crash?What are the barriers to entry to both of these items thanks to the government regulations that went into place around them?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203918</id>
	<title>Re:no analogue holes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266573060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought that the word would be spelled analog here in the US of A.</p><p>Did the magazine formerly edited by John W Campbell start enforcing their trademark?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought that the word would be spelled analog here in the US of A.Did the magazine formerly edited by John W Campbell start enforcing their trademark ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought that the word would be spelled analog here in the US of A.Did the magazine formerly edited by John W Campbell start enforcing their trademark?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203048</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202962</id>
	<title>Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266612900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There will still be plenty of HDMI to composite converters coming out of China, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There will still be plenty of HDMI to composite converters coming out of China , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There will still be plenty of HDMI to composite converters coming out of China, etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203318</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig...</title>
	<author>Anonymusing</author>
	<datestamp>1266571020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks, I needed that laugh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks , I needed that laugh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks, I needed that laugh.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203222</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202986</id>
	<title>Money Money Money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266613020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><ul> <li>$25 for component</li><li>$60 for HDMI</li><li>Unchecked licensing authority</li></ul><p>
What we have is a perfect recipe for greed!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 25 for component $ 60 for HDMIUnchecked licensing authority What we have is a perfect recipe for greed !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> $25 for component$60 for HDMIUnchecked licensing authority
What we have is a perfect recipe for greed!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203386</id>
	<title>Re:Where?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266571260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It doesn't have to tell you where, you can already tell:<br>
Stupid regulation motivated by greed: USA<br>
Stupid regulation motivated by stupidity/gullibility (often caused by the USA): mainland Europe <br>
Stupid regulation inspired by Orwell: UK, possibly Australia<br>
Not stupid regulation: anywhere else</htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't have to tell you where , you can already tell : Stupid regulation motivated by greed : USA Stupid regulation motivated by stupidity/gullibility ( often caused by the USA ) : mainland Europe Stupid regulation inspired by Orwell : UK , possibly Australia Not stupid regulation : anywhere else</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't have to tell you where, you can already tell:
Stupid regulation motivated by greed: USA
Stupid regulation motivated by stupidity/gullibility (often caused by the USA): mainland Europe 
Stupid regulation inspired by Orwell: UK, possibly Australia
Not stupid regulation: anywhere else</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203034</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204580</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>wtbname</author>
	<datestamp>1266576060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm...</p><p><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&amp;Description=hdmi\%20cable&amp;bop=And&amp;ActiveSearchResult=True&amp;Order=PRICE" title="newegg.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&amp;Description=hdmi\%20cable&amp;bop=And&amp;ActiveSearchResult=True&amp;Order=PRICE</a> [newegg.com]</p><p>Looks to me like HDMI cables cost about $6.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm...http : //www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx ? Submit = ENE&amp;Description = hdmi \ % 20cable&amp;bop = And&amp;ActiveSearchResult = True&amp;Order = PRICE [ newegg.com ] Looks to me like HDMI cables cost about $ 6 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm...http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&amp;Description=hdmi\%20cable&amp;bop=And&amp;ActiveSearchResult=True&amp;Order=PRICE [newegg.com]Looks to me like HDMI cables cost about $6.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203294</id>
	<title>Re:Nintendo Wii without Component?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where does it say you can't sell component cables?  It says you can't sell devices which play HD movies over component cables.  Since the Wii neither plays Blu-ray movies nor outputs HD signals, it is already compliant.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where does it say you ca n't sell component cables ?
It says you ca n't sell devices which play HD movies over component cables .
Since the Wii neither plays Blu-ray movies nor outputs HD signals , it is already compliant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where does it say you can't sell component cables?
It says you can't sell devices which play HD movies over component cables.
Since the Wii neither plays Blu-ray movies nor outputs HD signals, it is already compliant.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203050</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204016</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>nxtw</author>
	<datestamp>1266573540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system (minus a few very, very high end ones) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI.</p></div></blockquote><p>I purchased my relatively low end home theater receiver in 2007, and it includes HDMI/HDCP support.  It was the cheapest available with 8-channel LPCM input at the time.</p><blockquote><div><p>If they start doing AACS, and forcing encryption over HDMI, then if I buy a new component that meets the new standard</p></div></blockquote><p>AACS is the copy protection on the disc.  HDMI has HDCP, and your equipment might already support it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system ( minus a few very , very high end ones ) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI.I purchased my relatively low end home theater receiver in 2007 , and it includes HDMI/HDCP support .
It was the cheapest available with 8-channel LPCM input at the time.If they start doing AACS , and forcing encryption over HDMI , then if I buy a new component that meets the new standardAACS is the copy protection on the disc .
HDMI has HDCP , and your equipment might already support it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system (minus a few very, very high end ones) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI.I purchased my relatively low end home theater receiver in 2007, and it includes HDMI/HDCP support.
It was the cheapest available with 8-channel LPCM input at the time.If they start doing AACS, and forcing encryption over HDMI, then if I buy a new component that meets the new standardAACS is the copy protection on the disc.
HDMI has HDCP, and your equipment might already support it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202982</id>
	<title>Why force the market?</title>
	<author>rotide</author>
	<datestamp>1266612960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why attempt to force the market to change?  Oh right, money.  Someone stands to make a lot of money from a bunch of people being forced to upgrade.</p><p>I mean, they could just let the old tvs slowly die out and eventually noone will have a need for anything but HDMI, but where is the short term profit in that?</p><p>Somehow I still doubt it will work.  People don't like being told they can't have their way and someone will find a way to give them what they want anyways.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why attempt to force the market to change ?
Oh right , money .
Someone stands to make a lot of money from a bunch of people being forced to upgrade.I mean , they could just let the old tvs slowly die out and eventually noone will have a need for anything but HDMI , but where is the short term profit in that ? Somehow I still doubt it will work .
People do n't like being told they ca n't have their way and someone will find a way to give them what they want anyways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why attempt to force the market to change?
Oh right, money.
Someone stands to make a lot of money from a bunch of people being forced to upgrade.I mean, they could just let the old tvs slowly die out and eventually noone will have a need for anything but HDMI, but where is the short term profit in that?Somehow I still doubt it will work.
People don't like being told they can't have their way and someone will find a way to give them what they want anyways.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205514</id>
	<title>Re:Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266580380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm fully with you as far as the likes of the ??AA go, but I find it worthwhile to make a distinction between the (generally large) companies which deceive, bully and engage in corruption at every turn, and smaller outfits which are still concerned only with creating (perhaps) good media.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm fully with you as far as the likes of the ?
? AA go , but I find it worthwhile to make a distinction between the ( generally large ) companies which deceive , bully and engage in corruption at every turn , and smaller outfits which are still concerned only with creating ( perhaps ) good media .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm fully with you as far as the likes of the ?
?AA go, but I find it worthwhile to make a distinction between the (generally large) companies which deceive, bully and engage in corruption at every turn, and smaller outfits which are still concerned only with creating (perhaps) good media.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203148</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202996</id>
	<title>Now tell me something new ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266613080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now tell me something new<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now tell me something new .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now tell me something new ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203486</id>
	<title>Televisions without analog inputs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266571620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This sounds like a slippery slope to televisions without analog inputs.  That really sucks for game systems, like the PS2 or Wii which don't have digital outputs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds like a slippery slope to televisions without analog inputs .
That really sucks for game systems , like the PS2 or Wii which do n't have digital outputs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds like a slippery slope to televisions without analog inputs.
That really sucks for game systems, like the PS2 or Wii which don't have digital outputs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206996</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>Taco Cowboy</author>
	<datestamp>1266591780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And my hope is that someone will start a class action lawsuit on behalf of owners who legally bought home theater equipment and legal copies of HD movies against those DRM trolls.</p><p>I am sure that many people all over the globe will support this cause.</p><p>This is getting too ridiculous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And my hope is that someone will start a class action lawsuit on behalf of owners who legally bought home theater equipment and legal copies of HD movies against those DRM trolls.I am sure that many people all over the globe will support this cause.This is getting too ridiculous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And my hope is that someone will start a class action lawsuit on behalf of owners who legally bought home theater equipment and legal copies of HD movies against those DRM trolls.I am sure that many people all over the globe will support this cause.This is getting too ridiculous.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204470</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203062</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or use a media PC as the center of your entertainment setup and rip content to remove protections that would require HDCP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or use a media PC as the center of your entertainment setup and rip content to remove protections that would require HDCP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or use a media PC as the center of your entertainment setup and rip content to remove protections that would require HDCP.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202962</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204148</id>
	<title>Re:Are the manufacturers getting more greedy</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1266574080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, they also seem to be spending a lot of time figuring out how to force poison firmware upgrades to take back the functionality you already paid for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , they also seem to be spending a lot of time figuring out how to force poison firmware upgrades to take back the functionality you already paid for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, they also seem to be spending a lot of time figuring out how to force poison firmware upgrades to take back the functionality you already paid for.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203028</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203460</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig...</title>
	<author>AmigaHeretic</author>
	<datestamp>1266571560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you really want a laugh, read the customer reviews of that cable.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you really want a laugh , read the customer reviews of that cable .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you really want a laugh, read the customer reviews of that cable.
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203222</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203418</id>
	<title>Re:Nintendo Wii without Component?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266571380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Purely FYI: AC means <a href="http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c\_id=108&amp;cp\_id=10830&amp;cs\_id=1083007&amp;p\_id=3566&amp;seq=1&amp;format=2" title="monoprice.com">this cable</a> [monoprice.com]. Thanks for the tip on monoprice, had not heard of them before. Geek fail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Purely FYI : AC means this cable [ monoprice.com ] .
Thanks for the tip on monoprice , had not heard of them before .
Geek fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Purely FYI: AC means this cable [monoprice.com].
Thanks for the tip on monoprice, had not heard of them before.
Geek fail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203414</id>
	<title>Re:no analogue holes</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1266571320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well you gotta be careful you know. You can buy the $20 cable, but we can't guarantee it has no analogue holes. Now imagine yourself sitting down to watch the latest rental. Do you want to have to get up in the middle of it to realize you're leaking analogue all over the floor?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well you got ta be careful you know .
You can buy the $ 20 cable , but we ca n't guarantee it has no analogue holes .
Now imagine yourself sitting down to watch the latest rental .
Do you want to have to get up in the middle of it to realize you 're leaking analogue all over the floor ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well you gotta be careful you know.
You can buy the $20 cable, but we can't guarantee it has no analogue holes.
Now imagine yourself sitting down to watch the latest rental.
Do you want to have to get up in the middle of it to realize you're leaking analogue all over the floor?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203048</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203086</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>You left off the $200 gold-plated HDMI connectors.  Since converting to gold plated, I've noticed that the digital signal has 0's which are softer and rounder, while the 1's are slimmer and pointier at the top.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You left off the $ 200 gold-plated HDMI connectors .
Since converting to gold plated , I 've noticed that the digital signal has 0 's which are softer and rounder , while the 1 's are slimmer and pointier at the top .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You left off the $200 gold-plated HDMI connectors.
Since converting to gold plated, I've noticed that the digital signal has 0's which are softer and rounder, while the 1's are slimmer and pointier at the top.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202986</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203496</id>
	<title>Not as bad as it sounds</title>
	<author>Craig Davison</author>
	<datestamp>1266571620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The SD resolution you'll be restricted to is NOT 480i. It's 540p (960x540 in Widescreen). It's still better than DVD resolution (720x480 non-square pixels).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The SD resolution you 'll be restricted to is NOT 480i .
It 's 540p ( 960x540 in Widescreen ) .
It 's still better than DVD resolution ( 720x480 non-square pixels ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The SD resolution you'll be restricted to is NOT 480i.
It's 540p (960x540 in Widescreen).
It's still better than DVD resolution (720x480 non-square pixels).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31215090</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266677220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or you can pay less than $10 for HDMI cables from Amazon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or you can pay less than $ 10 for HDMI cables from Amazon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you can pay less than $10 for HDMI cables from Amazon.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202986</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203562</id>
	<title>Impact</title>
	<author>qoncept</author>
	<datestamp>1266571860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Component video cables are hardly ubiquitous. Lots of people have never even seen them and even less could tell you what they were if you asked. The majority of people with HDTVs bought a $150 HDMI cable along with them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Component video cables are hardly ubiquitous .
Lots of people have never even seen them and even less could tell you what they were if you asked .
The majority of people with HDTVs bought a $ 150 HDMI cable along with them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Component video cables are hardly ubiquitous.
Lots of people have never even seen them and even less could tell you what they were if you asked.
The majority of people with HDTVs bought a $150 HDMI cable along with them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207546</id>
	<title>Boo-hoo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266597900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh dear - another anti-consumer measure! Boo-hoo!</p><p>Would I like to purchase a non-DRM solution over a DRMed solution? Yes. As far as I hate DRMs, one has to remember they exist for a reason. That reason is to stop people pirating goods which has cost a certain entity a fair amount of money to create. Even if companies tried the softer approach of providing non-DRMed content, the result will be that a far greater number of people will pirate it. Just search gnutella for music and see how many non-DRMed iTunes purchases you find there these days! This stuff hardly existed when music was DRMed!</p><p>To those who say that media companies charge too much: people who pirate content do it not because of the cost of content, but because they can get it for free. Seriously, there are people I know who'd rather torrent a movie rather than pick it up from the $5 bin at their local Walmart.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh dear - another anti-consumer measure !
Boo-hoo ! Would I like to purchase a non-DRM solution over a DRMed solution ?
Yes. As far as I hate DRMs , one has to remember they exist for a reason .
That reason is to stop people pirating goods which has cost a certain entity a fair amount of money to create .
Even if companies tried the softer approach of providing non-DRMed content , the result will be that a far greater number of people will pirate it .
Just search gnutella for music and see how many non-DRMed iTunes purchases you find there these days !
This stuff hardly existed when music was DRMed ! To those who say that media companies charge too much : people who pirate content do it not because of the cost of content , but because they can get it for free .
Seriously , there are people I know who 'd rather torrent a movie rather than pick it up from the $ 5 bin at their local Walmart .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh dear - another anti-consumer measure!
Boo-hoo!Would I like to purchase a non-DRM solution over a DRMed solution?
Yes. As far as I hate DRMs, one has to remember they exist for a reason.
That reason is to stop people pirating goods which has cost a certain entity a fair amount of money to create.
Even if companies tried the softer approach of providing non-DRMed content, the result will be that a far greater number of people will pirate it.
Just search gnutella for music and see how many non-DRMed iTunes purchases you find there these days!
This stuff hardly existed when music was DRMed!To those who say that media companies charge too much: people who pirate content do it not because of the cost of content, but because they can get it for free.
Seriously, there are people I know who'd rather torrent a movie rather than pick it up from the $5 bin at their local Walmart.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203778</id>
	<title>The Real Analog Hole</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266572580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <i>real</i> analog hole is the display screen.</p><p>With all the camera and video technologies coming out, I wouldn't be surprised if creating an exact digital replica in the future was as simple as putting a camera in front of a screen and loading in a "record video on a screen" app.</p><p>Play the movie once, (perhaps even at a higher speed,) and you have a perfect copy of the video.</p><p>Sound might be a bit trickier.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real analog hole is the display screen.With all the camera and video technologies coming out , I would n't be surprised if creating an exact digital replica in the future was as simple as putting a camera in front of a screen and loading in a " record video on a screen " app.Play the movie once , ( perhaps even at a higher speed , ) and you have a perfect copy of the video.Sound might be a bit trickier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real analog hole is the display screen.With all the camera and video technologies coming out, I wouldn't be surprised if creating an exact digital replica in the future was as simple as putting a camera in front of a screen and loading in a "record video on a screen" app.Play the movie once, (perhaps even at a higher speed,) and you have a perfect copy of the video.Sound might be a bit trickier.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206542</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>Daimanta</author>
	<datestamp>1266587040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The joke is on you. I work in a shop that basically sells HDMI cable for less then 1 EUR per meter, goldplated.</p><p>If you factor out the greed, prices can go down by a large amount.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The joke is on you .
I work in a shop that basically sells HDMI cable for less then 1 EUR per meter , goldplated.If you factor out the greed , prices can go down by a large amount .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The joke is on you.
I work in a shop that basically sells HDMI cable for less then 1 EUR per meter, goldplated.If you factor out the greed, prices can go down by a large amount.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206736</id>
	<title>Re:The Real Analog Hole</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1266588960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not as easy as you make it sound... when videorecording a screen, you need to use a genlock to synchronize the source with the camera to prevent those black horizontal lines from running up the screen. But yes, ultimately anything that can be seen and heard by the customer has an "analog hole", the only question is what kind of loss of resolution results from using it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not as easy as you make it sound... when videorecording a screen , you need to use a genlock to synchronize the source with the camera to prevent those black horizontal lines from running up the screen .
But yes , ultimately anything that can be seen and heard by the customer has an " analog hole " , the only question is what kind of loss of resolution results from using it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not as easy as you make it sound... when videorecording a screen, you need to use a genlock to synchronize the source with the camera to prevent those black horizontal lines from running up the screen.
But yes, ultimately anything that can be seen and heard by the customer has an "analog hole", the only question is what kind of loss of resolution results from using it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203242</id>
	<title>So, basically, don't bother buying blu-ray?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>because one way or another, you'll get screwed?</htmltext>
<tokenext>because one way or another , you 'll get screwed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>because one way or another, you'll get screwed?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203868</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig...</title>
	<author>clarkkent09</author>
	<datestamp>1266572880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Amateur stuff compared to the reviews of the legendary Denon $500 cable: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/product-reviews/B000I1X6PM/ref=cm\_cr\_pr\_helpful?ie=UTF8&amp;showViewpoints=0" title="amazon.com">http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/product-reviews/B000I1X6PM/ref=cm\_cr\_pr\_helpful?ie=UTF8&amp;showViewpoints=0</a> [amazon.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Amateur stuff compared to the reviews of the legendary Denon $ 500 cable : http : //www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/product-reviews/B000I1X6PM/ref = cm \ _cr \ _pr \ _helpful ? ie = UTF8&amp;showViewpoints = 0 [ amazon.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amateur stuff compared to the reviews of the legendary Denon $500 cable: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/product-reviews/B000I1X6PM/ref=cm\_cr\_pr\_helpful?ie=UTF8&amp;showViewpoints=0 [amazon.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205024</id>
	<title>Re:Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266577800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Ok, queue up the haters, I don't give a shit what any of you think."</p><p>It's people like you who give the movie studios one more reason to make things miserable for their law-abiding, paying customers.</p><p>It's okay, actually.  I don't hate you, because I know that if the movie studios keep doing what they're doing, the rest of us will join you soon enough, even if we keep paying money for the product.  As it is I've downloaded a couple of movies after buying the DVD because the !#\%!$!$ studio put copy protection on top of the regular DVD format such that: A) the disk is non-standard, and B) I can't easily copy it to my other machines at home and use it the way I want.  You'll sort out all the bugs in the circumvention systems we need to properly enjoy our purchases.  And for that I'm quite grateful to you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Ok , queue up the haters , I do n't give a shit what any of you think .
" It 's people like you who give the movie studios one more reason to make things miserable for their law-abiding , paying customers.It 's okay , actually .
I do n't hate you , because I know that if the movie studios keep doing what they 're doing , the rest of us will join you soon enough , even if we keep paying money for the product .
As it is I 've downloaded a couple of movies after buying the DVD because the ! # \ % ! $ ! $ studio put copy protection on top of the regular DVD format such that : A ) the disk is non-standard , and B ) I ca n't easily copy it to my other machines at home and use it the way I want .
You 'll sort out all the bugs in the circumvention systems we need to properly enjoy our purchases .
And for that I 'm quite grateful to you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Ok, queue up the haters, I don't give a shit what any of you think.
"It's people like you who give the movie studios one more reason to make things miserable for their law-abiding, paying customers.It's okay, actually.
I don't hate you, because I know that if the movie studios keep doing what they're doing, the rest of us will join you soon enough, even if we keep paying money for the product.
As it is I've downloaded a couple of movies after buying the DVD because the !#\%!$!$ studio put copy protection on top of the regular DVD format such that: A) the disk is non-standard, and B) I can't easily copy it to my other machines at home and use it the way I want.
You'll sort out all the bugs in the circumvention systems we need to properly enjoy our purchases.
And for that I'm quite grateful to you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205796</id>
	<title>This already happened to DVI (without HDCP)</title>
	<author>bored</author>
	<datestamp>1266581940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A few years ago you could buy DVD players with DVI outputs, dumping up scaled 1080i without HDCP. Then a few years ago, when all the DVI ports disappeared so many of the players started refusing to dump 1080i over HDMI/DVI without HDCP. Instead they would only dump it at 720p or lower, that's when a lot of manufactures did the same thing to component. Its been really hard to find DVD players that would upscale to 1080i/p without HDCP for a couple years now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A few years ago you could buy DVD players with DVI outputs , dumping up scaled 1080i without HDCP .
Then a few years ago , when all the DVI ports disappeared so many of the players started refusing to dump 1080i over HDMI/DVI without HDCP .
Instead they would only dump it at 720p or lower , that 's when a lot of manufactures did the same thing to component .
Its been really hard to find DVD players that would upscale to 1080i/p without HDCP for a couple years now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few years ago you could buy DVD players with DVI outputs, dumping up scaled 1080i without HDCP.
Then a few years ago, when all the DVI ports disappeared so many of the players started refusing to dump 1080i over HDMI/DVI without HDCP.
Instead they would only dump it at 720p or lower, that's when a lot of manufactures did the same thing to component.
Its been really hard to find DVD players that would upscale to 1080i/p without HDCP for a couple years now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206230</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>biryokumaru</author>
	<datestamp>1266584460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wonder if it would be possible to forget LCD and just build the monitor from small diodes? They are semiconductors, so there should be no reason they can't be made very small, and a quick look at Wikipedia seems to suggest that they come in red, green and blue.</p></div><p>I have a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic\_LED" title="wikipedia.org">present</a> [wikipedia.org] for you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if it would be possible to forget LCD and just build the monitor from small diodes ?
They are semiconductors , so there should be no reason they ca n't be made very small , and a quick look at Wikipedia seems to suggest that they come in red , green and blue.I have a present [ wikipedia.org ] for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if it would be possible to forget LCD and just build the monitor from small diodes?
They are semiconductors, so there should be no reason they can't be made very small, and a quick look at Wikipedia seems to suggest that they come in red, green and blue.I have a present [wikipedia.org] for you.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206968</id>
	<title>You can boost HDMI for distance</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1266591540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But it costs more. It can go over Cat-5e up to around 60 meters or so, however you need 2 cables, not one. For longer distances or single cable there is a fibre solution but as I'm sure you guessed it is pricey.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But it costs more .
It can go over Cat-5e up to around 60 meters or so , however you need 2 cables , not one .
For longer distances or single cable there is a fibre solution but as I 'm sure you guessed it is pricey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it costs more.
It can go over Cat-5e up to around 60 meters or so, however you need 2 cables, not one.
For longer distances or single cable there is a fibre solution but as I'm sure you guessed it is pricey.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204890</id>
	<title>Re:The Real Analog Hole</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1266577140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sound is even easier. There's no protection on the LPCM streams... just pipe them to a file (over an optical out or whatever), and merge them with the video. Audio isn't affected by the <b>Image</b> Constraint Token (ICT)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sound is even easier .
There 's no protection on the LPCM streams... just pipe them to a file ( over an optical out or whatever ) , and merge them with the video .
Audio is n't affected by the Image Constraint Token ( ICT )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sound is even easier.
There's no protection on the LPCM streams... just pipe them to a file (over an optical out or whatever), and merge them with the video.
Audio isn't affected by the Image Constraint Token (ICT)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205288</id>
	<title>Does this apply to HD Satellite boxes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266579060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everybody getting so worked up over their precious BD player. What I want to know is does this mean new HD satellite boxes will not transmit the HD signal using component but only HDMI?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everybody getting so worked up over their precious BD player .
What I want to know is does this mean new HD satellite boxes will not transmit the HD signal using component but only HDMI ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everybody getting so worked up over their precious BD player.
What I want to know is does this mean new HD satellite boxes will not transmit the HD signal using component but only HDMI?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203198</id>
	<title>Re:Summary contradicts itself...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RTFA before asking questions?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RTFA before asking questions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RTFA before asking questions?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204432</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>WCguru42</author>
	<datestamp>1266575460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted.  Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system (minus a few very, very high end ones) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI.  </p></div><p>In my experience most receivers can pass along an encrypted HDCP signal as long as the input is through HDMI and your output is through HDMI.  My receiver allows for most incoming signals to be output through a single component video cable to my tv.  The only exception is that HDMI input has to go through HDMI output, which means I'm constantly switching between my TV's component and HDMI input.  Too bad it can't force signals through the HDMI output.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted .
Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system ( minus a few very , very high end ones ) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI .
In my experience most receivers can pass along an encrypted HDCP signal as long as the input is through HDMI and your output is through HDMI .
My receiver allows for most incoming signals to be output through a single component video cable to my tv .
The only exception is that HDMI input has to go through HDMI output , which means I 'm constantly switching between my TV 's component and HDMI input .
Too bad it ca n't force signals through the HDMI output .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted.
Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system (minus a few very, very high end ones) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI.
In my experience most receivers can pass along an encrypted HDCP signal as long as the input is through HDMI and your output is through HDMI.
My receiver allows for most incoming signals to be output through a single component video cable to my tv.
The only exception is that HDMI input has to go through HDMI output, which means I'm constantly switching between my TV's component and HDMI input.
Too bad it can't force signals through the HDMI output.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205298</id>
	<title>Re:Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>TheTyrannyOfForcedRe</author>
	<datestamp>1266579120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>
Up to about 2001-2002 I was a legitimate consumer, but when the trend of shafting legitimate consumers became the industry standards, I went 100\% piracy.
My entire entertainment system is a lean, mean, swashbuckling, pirating machine. There is no hole in which to insert a physical media; why would I need a DVD or Blu-ray source, since I have no intention of buying any discs? DVD player went to the dump with my VHS.
</p><p>
Now my country does levy a blank CD tax...Oh yeah, I never buy any blank discs because EVERYTHING is on Hard drives or flash cards.
I'm laughing man, because I am so not legit.
</p><p>
Ok, queue up the haters, I don't give a shit what any of you think.
</p></div><p>I have a close friend who did exactly the same thing.  People keep asking him when he's going to get a bluray drive for his PC, "But they're only $60 now!"  He just laughs...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Up to about 2001-2002 I was a legitimate consumer , but when the trend of shafting legitimate consumers became the industry standards , I went 100 \ % piracy .
My entire entertainment system is a lean , mean , swashbuckling , pirating machine .
There is no hole in which to insert a physical media ; why would I need a DVD or Blu-ray source , since I have no intention of buying any discs ?
DVD player went to the dump with my VHS .
Now my country does levy a blank CD tax...Oh yeah , I never buy any blank discs because EVERYTHING is on Hard drives or flash cards .
I 'm laughing man , because I am so not legit .
Ok , queue up the haters , I do n't give a shit what any of you think .
I have a close friend who did exactly the same thing .
People keep asking him when he 's going to get a bluray drive for his PC , " But they 're only $ 60 now !
" He just laughs.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Up to about 2001-2002 I was a legitimate consumer, but when the trend of shafting legitimate consumers became the industry standards, I went 100\% piracy.
My entire entertainment system is a lean, mean, swashbuckling, pirating machine.
There is no hole in which to insert a physical media; why would I need a DVD or Blu-ray source, since I have no intention of buying any discs?
DVD player went to the dump with my VHS.
Now my country does levy a blank CD tax...Oh yeah, I never buy any blank discs because EVERYTHING is on Hard drives or flash cards.
I'm laughing man, because I am so not legit.
Ok, queue up the haters, I don't give a shit what any of you think.
I have a close friend who did exactly the same thing.
People keep asking him when he's going to get a bluray drive for his PC, "But they're only $60 now!
"  He just laughs...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205350</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1266579360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Or use a media PC as the center of your entertainment setup and rip content to remove protections that would require HDCP.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Or just get the disinfected version from Pirate Bay.</p><p>Media industry does a pretty good imitation of The Three Stooges nowadays.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or use a media PC as the center of your entertainment setup and rip content to remove protections that would require HDCP .
Or just get the disinfected version from Pirate Bay.Media industry does a pretty good imitation of The Three Stooges nowadays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or use a media PC as the center of your entertainment setup and rip content to remove protections that would require HDCP.
Or just get the disinfected version from Pirate Bay.Media industry does a pretty good imitation of The Three Stooges nowadays.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206096</id>
	<title>Re:no analogue holes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266583680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is actually one (and only one, I believe) function for which Monster Cables are the best to purchase.</p><p>Instrument cabling.</p><p>Guitar cables from Monster are only about $10-15 more than the generic ones (for a 20-30' cable, I can pay 50 cents more per foot) and come with a LIFETIME GUARANTEE. Let me repeat that, lifetime guarantee. No questions asked. Just take it to any place that sells Monster guitar cables and say "it broke," and they give you another one.</p><p>If you play gigs and you're tired of having to keep 6 extra cords in your backpack (maybe THIS one doesn't have a short in it!) it can be a lifesaver. Of course, you still need an extra cord or two, but now you don't have to keep paying for them over and over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is actually one ( and only one , I believe ) function for which Monster Cables are the best to purchase.Instrument cabling.Guitar cables from Monster are only about $ 10-15 more than the generic ones ( for a 20-30 ' cable , I can pay 50 cents more per foot ) and come with a LIFETIME GUARANTEE .
Let me repeat that , lifetime guarantee .
No questions asked .
Just take it to any place that sells Monster guitar cables and say " it broke , " and they give you another one.If you play gigs and you 're tired of having to keep 6 extra cords in your backpack ( maybe THIS one does n't have a short in it !
) it can be a lifesaver .
Of course , you still need an extra cord or two , but now you do n't have to keep paying for them over and over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is actually one (and only one, I believe) function for which Monster Cables are the best to purchase.Instrument cabling.Guitar cables from Monster are only about $10-15 more than the generic ones (for a 20-30' cable, I can pay 50 cents more per foot) and come with a LIFETIME GUARANTEE.
Let me repeat that, lifetime guarantee.
No questions asked.
Just take it to any place that sells Monster guitar cables and say "it broke," and they give you another one.If you play gigs and you're tired of having to keep 6 extra cords in your backpack (maybe THIS one doesn't have a short in it!
) it can be a lifesaver.
Of course, you still need an extra cord or two, but now you don't have to keep paying for them over and over.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204596</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>BlueScreenOfTOM</author>
	<datestamp>1266576120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What, you mean the gold plated HDMI cables don't make any difference in picture and sound quality?  No way!  Monster, Denon, and Belkin wouldn't lie to me!  Why would they!?  Next thing I know you'll be telling me my <a href="http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp" title="denon.com" rel="nofollow">$500 ethernet cable</a> [denon.com] was a waste of money too!  Don't be ridiculous!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>What , you mean the gold plated HDMI cables do n't make any difference in picture and sound quality ?
No way !
Monster , Denon , and Belkin would n't lie to me !
Why would they ! ?
Next thing I know you 'll be telling me my $ 500 ethernet cable [ denon.com ] was a waste of money too !
Do n't be ridiculous ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, you mean the gold plated HDMI cables don't make any difference in picture and sound quality?
No way!
Monster, Denon, and Belkin wouldn't lie to me!
Why would they!?
Next thing I know you'll be telling me my $500 ethernet cable [denon.com] was a waste of money too!
Don't be ridiculous!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203138</id>
	<title>Re:Are the manufacturers getting more greedy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.</p></div><p>It seems that <b>since the first standard</b> every manufacturer has been trying to impose new standards in order to maximize their future sales.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.It seems that since the first standard every manufacturer has been trying to impose new standards in order to maximize their future sales .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.It seems that since the first standard every manufacturer has been trying to impose new standards in order to maximize their future sales.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203630</id>
	<title>Any blu-ray players sending 1080p over component?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266572040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an older projector that is component only. Does anyone know of a blu-ray player that will output the full 1080p to the component outputs? The one I bought does not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an older projector that is component only .
Does anyone know of a blu-ray player that will output the full 1080p to the component outputs ?
The one I bought does not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an older projector that is component only.
Does anyone know of a blu-ray player that will output the full 1080p to the component outputs?
The one I bought does not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203452</id>
	<title>It's only reasonable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266571560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think your setup is perfectly reasonable.  How much moralizing do you see companies go through when they employ slave laborers to make goods or outsource your job to some third-world worker for a pittance?  They are taking things away from others <b>just because they can</b>, so why shouldn't you do the same?</p><p>Slashtards go on about how it's okay because <i>"corporation are amoral"</i> and they <i>"have a responsibility to make as much money for their shareholders as possible."</i>  If that is the case, then it's perfectly sensible to do the same thing yourself.  Pirating is cheaper than buying, and allows me to have more money for other uses, therefore it is the right thing to do.</p><p>As they have sown, so they shall reap.  All hail the false idol of money and bow before the might of the corporate gods.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think your setup is perfectly reasonable .
How much moralizing do you see companies go through when they employ slave laborers to make goods or outsource your job to some third-world worker for a pittance ?
They are taking things away from others just because they can , so why should n't you do the same ? Slashtards go on about how it 's okay because " corporation are amoral " and they " have a responsibility to make as much money for their shareholders as possible .
" If that is the case , then it 's perfectly sensible to do the same thing yourself .
Pirating is cheaper than buying , and allows me to have more money for other uses , therefore it is the right thing to do.As they have sown , so they shall reap .
All hail the false idol of money and bow before the might of the corporate gods .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think your setup is perfectly reasonable.
How much moralizing do you see companies go through when they employ slave laborers to make goods or outsource your job to some third-world worker for a pittance?
They are taking things away from others just because they can, so why shouldn't you do the same?Slashtards go on about how it's okay because "corporation are amoral" and they "have a responsibility to make as much money for their shareholders as possible.
"  If that is the case, then it's perfectly sensible to do the same thing yourself.
Pirating is cheaper than buying, and allows me to have more money for other uses, therefore it is the right thing to do.As they have sown, so they shall reap.
All hail the false idol of money and bow before the might of the corporate gods.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203654</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266572160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you joke but the gold plated actually serves a purpose<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. but it has nothing to do with the quality of the picture..  it serves an anti corrosion role.....</p><p>but that oxygen free copper humm can't get enough of that</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you joke but the gold plated actually serves a purpose .. but it has nothing to do with the quality of the picture.. it serves an anti corrosion role.....but that oxygen free copper humm ca n't get enough of that</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you joke but the gold plated actually serves a purpose .. but it has nothing to do with the quality of the picture..  it serves an anti corrosion role.....but that oxygen free copper humm can't get enough of that</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203148</id>
	<title>Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Up to about 2001-2002 I was a legitimate consumer, but when the trend of shafting legitimate consumers became the industry standards, I went 100\% piracy.<br>My entire entertainment system is a lean, mean, swashbuckling, pirating machine. There is no hole in which to insert a physical media; why would I need a DVD or Blu-ray source, since I have no intention of buying any discs? DVD player went to the dump with my VHS.</p><p>Now my country does levy a blank CD tax...Oh yeah, I never buy any blank discs because EVERYTHING is on Hard drives or flash cards.<br>I'm laughing man, because I am so not legit.</p><p>Ok, queue up the haters, I don't give a shit what any of you think.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Up to about 2001-2002 I was a legitimate consumer , but when the trend of shafting legitimate consumers became the industry standards , I went 100 \ % piracy.My entire entertainment system is a lean , mean , swashbuckling , pirating machine .
There is no hole in which to insert a physical media ; why would I need a DVD or Blu-ray source , since I have no intention of buying any discs ?
DVD player went to the dump with my VHS.Now my country does levy a blank CD tax...Oh yeah , I never buy any blank discs because EVERYTHING is on Hard drives or flash cards.I 'm laughing man , because I am so not legit.Ok , queue up the haters , I do n't give a shit what any of you think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Up to about 2001-2002 I was a legitimate consumer, but when the trend of shafting legitimate consumers became the industry standards, I went 100\% piracy.My entire entertainment system is a lean, mean, swashbuckling, pirating machine.
There is no hole in which to insert a physical media; why would I need a DVD or Blu-ray source, since I have no intention of buying any discs?
DVD player went to the dump with my VHS.Now my country does levy a blank CD tax...Oh yeah, I never buy any blank discs because EVERYTHING is on Hard drives or flash cards.I'm laughing man, because I am so not legit.Ok, queue up the haters, I don't give a shit what any of you think.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205608</id>
	<title>This will hurt many businesses...</title>
	<author>aceofspades1217</author>
	<datestamp>1266580920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most businesses in which need to run a signal a long distance need to use a Cat5 to Component system. My family owns three businesses and they all use a system in which cat5 is ran to all three of our TVs and converted to component right before reaching the TV.</p><p>As much as HDMI is great it simply is not as good as component for running an HD signal over a long distance. Component is much better with cat5 because it is split into 3 cords. That way you Cat5 can easily handle the signal. However Cat5 is insufficient for carrying the entire signal if your using HDMI.</p><p>The AACS should not have the authority to break so many people's installations. We certainly can't afford to take out our nearly one thousand dollar system of splitters and converters and I'm sure many businesses can't either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most businesses in which need to run a signal a long distance need to use a Cat5 to Component system .
My family owns three businesses and they all use a system in which cat5 is ran to all three of our TVs and converted to component right before reaching the TV.As much as HDMI is great it simply is not as good as component for running an HD signal over a long distance .
Component is much better with cat5 because it is split into 3 cords .
That way you Cat5 can easily handle the signal .
However Cat5 is insufficient for carrying the entire signal if your using HDMI.The AACS should not have the authority to break so many people 's installations .
We certainly ca n't afford to take out our nearly one thousand dollar system of splitters and converters and I 'm sure many businesses ca n't either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most businesses in which need to run a signal a long distance need to use a Cat5 to Component system.
My family owns three businesses and they all use a system in which cat5 is ran to all three of our TVs and converted to component right before reaching the TV.As much as HDMI is great it simply is not as good as component for running an HD signal over a long distance.
Component is much better with cat5 because it is split into 3 cords.
That way you Cat5 can easily handle the signal.
However Cat5 is insufficient for carrying the entire signal if your using HDMI.The AACS should not have the authority to break so many people's installations.
We certainly can't afford to take out our nearly one thousand dollar system of splitters and converters and I'm sure many businesses can't either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207254</id>
	<title>Re:no analogue holes</title>
	<author>mtmra70</author>
	<datestamp>1266594780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>poop from a golden duck is still stinky poop</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>poop from a golden duck is still stinky poop</tokentext>
<sentencetext>poop from a golden duck is still stinky poop</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203280</id>
	<title>Re:Bye bye Wii</title>
	<author>Wovel</author>
	<datestamp>1266570900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Huh?  We need a "poster misunderstood the point of the article" flag.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Huh ?
We need a " poster misunderstood the point of the article " flag .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huh?
We need a "poster misunderstood the point of the article" flag.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204388</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig...</title>
	<author>VisceralLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1266575340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Though not exactly on topic, I feel like I should post this like I always do...

<b>"24K gold-plated connectors help protect the cable's optical lens to ensure consistent signal transfer"</b></p> </div><p>To be fair, they don't actually say that being 24K gold-plated actually helps anything; if read carefully, it actually just says that the connectors that protect the lens (said lens being required for signal transfer) are 24K gold-plated.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Though not exactly on topic , I feel like I should post this like I always do.. . " 24K gold-plated connectors help protect the cable 's optical lens to ensure consistent signal transfer " To be fair , they do n't actually say that being 24K gold-plated actually helps anything ; if read carefully , it actually just says that the connectors that protect the lens ( said lens being required for signal transfer ) are 24K gold-plated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Though not exactly on topic, I feel like I should post this like I always do...

"24K gold-plated connectors help protect the cable's optical lens to ensure consistent signal transfer" To be fair, they don't actually say that being 24K gold-plated actually helps anything; if read carefully, it actually just says that the connectors that protect the lens (said lens being required for signal transfer) are 24K gold-plated.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204070</id>
	<title>Re:Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266573780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..with you entirely, Sir.</p><p>In a world where Apple tells me what I can (and mostly cannot) run on my hardware, Game Producers tell me I cannot play *my* game unless I am 100\% online, 100\% of the time, now the Hardware Industry ties me to some BS "standard" for which I cannot purchase a fucking cable that will run around the corner without the additional purchase of fuck knows how many Strom-Sucking Dongles and Converters, I say, fuck em all, our time has come.</p><p>The "industry" will fuck us, the "Consumers" over, everytime, every chance they get otherwise.  Enough is enough, lets tell them where to take this shit, finally.  We are not the problem here, the Suckers who continually buy this shit, with no regard whatsoever for the long-term consequences of consumer choice are.  For those who say smugly "I'll still buy their latest shit, Ill figure a way round it.." - Fuck you too, youre a bigger part of the problem than the assholes who dream this up - at least, they *know* they are assholes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..with you entirely , Sir.In a world where Apple tells me what I can ( and mostly can not ) run on my hardware , Game Producers tell me I can not play * my * game unless I am 100 \ % online , 100 \ % of the time , now the Hardware Industry ties me to some BS " standard " for which I can not purchase a fucking cable that will run around the corner without the additional purchase of fuck knows how many Strom-Sucking Dongles and Converters , I say , fuck em all , our time has come.The " industry " will fuck us , the " Consumers " over , everytime , every chance they get otherwise .
Enough is enough , lets tell them where to take this shit , finally .
We are not the problem here , the Suckers who continually buy this shit , with no regard whatsoever for the long-term consequences of consumer choice are .
For those who say smugly " I 'll still buy their latest shit , Ill figure a way round it.. " - Fuck you too , youre a bigger part of the problem than the assholes who dream this up - at least , they * know * they are assholes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..with you entirely, Sir.In a world where Apple tells me what I can (and mostly cannot) run on my hardware, Game Producers tell me I cannot play *my* game unless I am 100\% online, 100\% of the time, now the Hardware Industry ties me to some BS "standard" for which I cannot purchase a fucking cable that will run around the corner without the additional purchase of fuck knows how many Strom-Sucking Dongles and Converters, I say, fuck em all, our time has come.The "industry" will fuck us, the "Consumers" over, everytime, every chance they get otherwise.
Enough is enough, lets tell them where to take this shit, finally.
We are not the problem here, the Suckers who continually buy this shit, with no regard whatsoever for the long-term consequences of consumer choice are.
For those who say smugly "I'll still buy their latest shit, Ill figure a way round it.." - Fuck you too, youre a bigger part of the problem than the assholes who dream this up - at least, they *know* they are assholes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205460</id>
	<title>Re:Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1266579960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Ok, queue up the haters, I don't give a shit what any of you think.</i> <br> <br>
Well, I appreciate your honesty.  There's no suggestion that you'd switch back to paying for stuff if the piracy went away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , queue up the haters , I do n't give a shit what any of you think .
Well , I appreciate your honesty .
There 's no suggestion that you 'd switch back to paying for stuff if the piracy went away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, queue up the haters, I don't give a shit what any of you think.
Well, I appreciate your honesty.
There's no suggestion that you'd switch back to paying for stuff if the piracy went away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207866</id>
	<title>win-win</title>
	<author>pydev</author>
	<datestamp>1266601500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a win-win as far as industry is concerned: you have to replace your equipment, you have to buy all your movies again, they get to control the content in perpetuity in violation of copyright law, and they can threaten you with lawsuits for obscene awards and even win.  And since it's collusion within an oligopoly, you have nowhere else to go.  And it's all legal (after bribing politicians sufficiently well). Why wouldn't they like it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a win-win as far as industry is concerned : you have to replace your equipment , you have to buy all your movies again , they get to control the content in perpetuity in violation of copyright law , and they can threaten you with lawsuits for obscene awards and even win .
And since it 's collusion within an oligopoly , you have nowhere else to go .
And it 's all legal ( after bribing politicians sufficiently well ) .
Why would n't they like it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a win-win as far as industry is concerned: you have to replace your equipment, you have to buy all your movies again, they get to control the content in perpetuity in violation of copyright law, and they can threaten you with lawsuits for obscene awards and even win.
And since it's collusion within an oligopoly, you have nowhere else to go.
And it's all legal (after bribing politicians sufficiently well).
Why wouldn't they like it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203018</id>
	<title>Summary contradicts itself...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266613140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It says that they "...will not be 'allowed' [to] introduce \_\_\_\_new\_\_\_\_ hardware..." and then says, "...throw a wrench in a lot of \_\_\_\_existing\_\_\_\_ custom installations..."</p><p>How are these things related? Is the submission suggestion that your component video output will suddenly cease to work? Or are they trying to make the leap of logic that old displays will not have any new gizmos to connect to them? I've never seen a piece of display equipment that couldn't be connected to an HD source through some trickery with adapters or an upscaler etc. What's the worry here?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It says that they " ...will not be 'allowed ' [ to ] introduce \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _new \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ hardware... " and then says , " ...throw a wrench in a lot of \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _existing \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ custom installations... " How are these things related ?
Is the submission suggestion that your component video output will suddenly cease to work ?
Or are they trying to make the leap of logic that old displays will not have any new gizmos to connect to them ?
I 've never seen a piece of display equipment that could n't be connected to an HD source through some trickery with adapters or an upscaler etc .
What 's the worry here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It says that they "...will not be 'allowed' [to] introduce \_\_\_\_new\_\_\_\_ hardware..." and then says, "...throw a wrench in a lot of \_\_\_\_existing\_\_\_\_ custom installations..."How are these things related?
Is the submission suggestion that your component video output will suddenly cease to work?
Or are they trying to make the leap of logic that old displays will not have any new gizmos to connect to them?
I've never seen a piece of display equipment that couldn't be connected to an HD source through some trickery with adapters or an upscaler etc.
What's the worry here?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31208026</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>tlhIngan</author>
	<datestamp>1266603540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.hdfury.com/" title="hdfury.com">HD Fury2</a> [hdfury.com] is all you need.</p><p>HDMI+HDCP to component video converter.</p><p>Kinda pricey, but for $250, beats buying a new TV (and equipment).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>HD Fury2 [ hdfury.com ] is all you need.HDMI + HDCP to component video converter.Kinda pricey , but for $ 250 , beats buying a new TV ( and equipment ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HD Fury2 [hdfury.com] is all you need.HDMI+HDCP to component video converter.Kinda pricey, but for $250, beats buying a new TV (and equipment).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204716</id>
	<title>Re:The Real Analog Hole</title>
	<author>mamer-retrogamer</author>
	<datestamp>1266576480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you honestly believe that the content cartels have not thought of that? All one would require to disable this is to embed an invisible (to the naked eye) watermark in the video stream which can be detected by the video camera which causes your camera to record nothing.</p><p>And don't think this is impossible. Have you ever tried to photocopy certain government documents on newer photocopiers? They simply will not allow you do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you honestly believe that the content cartels have not thought of that ?
All one would require to disable this is to embed an invisible ( to the naked eye ) watermark in the video stream which can be detected by the video camera which causes your camera to record nothing.And do n't think this is impossible .
Have you ever tried to photocopy certain government documents on newer photocopiers ?
They simply will not allow you do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you honestly believe that the content cartels have not thought of that?
All one would require to disable this is to embed an invisible (to the naked eye) watermark in the video stream which can be detected by the video camera which causes your camera to record nothing.And don't think this is impossible.
Have you ever tried to photocopy certain government documents on newer photocopiers?
They simply will not allow you do so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205394</id>
	<title>Re:Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1266579660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/2/19/" title="penny-arcade.com">http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/2/19/</a> [penny-arcade.com] <br> <br>
Penny Arcade has a point, there is a real reason studios are worried about piracy.  What you are doing will in no way end the attempts by the studio to enforce stricter and stricter controls.  If that were your goal, you would neither purchase their products, nor would you pirate them.<br> <br>
But ending the DRM is not really your goal, right? Your goal is to watch their movies in the way you want to, and you have more or less achieved that, at the same time as getting them free.  Good job.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/2/19/ [ penny-arcade.com ] Penny Arcade has a point , there is a real reason studios are worried about piracy .
What you are doing will in no way end the attempts by the studio to enforce stricter and stricter controls .
If that were your goal , you would neither purchase their products , nor would you pirate them .
But ending the DRM is not really your goal , right ?
Your goal is to watch their movies in the way you want to , and you have more or less achieved that , at the same time as getting them free .
Good job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/2/19/ [penny-arcade.com]  
Penny Arcade has a point, there is a real reason studios are worried about piracy.
What you are doing will in no way end the attempts by the studio to enforce stricter and stricter controls.
If that were your goal, you would neither purchase their products, nor would you pirate them.
But ending the DRM is not really your goal, right?
Your goal is to watch their movies in the way you want to, and you have more or less achieved that, at the same time as getting them free.
Good job.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204872</id>
	<title>Re:Where?</title>
	<author>KillShill</author>
	<datestamp>1266577080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please call it "crippled content".</p><p>Thanks,</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please call it " crippled content " .Thanks,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please call it "crippled content".Thanks,</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203480</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204120</id>
	<title>Bit off Topic but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266573960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>man do i wish there was something like this for PS/2 ports on PCs. i HATE how they are still around, someone should ban them!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>man do i wish there was something like this for PS/2 ports on PCs .
i HATE how they are still around , someone should ban them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>man do i wish there was something like this for PS/2 ports on PCs.
i HATE how they are still around, someone should ban them!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205930</id>
	<title>Re:Not Shortly After, if not already.</title>
	<author>alexandre\_ganso</author>
	<datestamp>1266582720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They just don't get it.</p><p>Instead of making harder to pirate, why don't they make it easier to consume original content? That's what apple did with itunes, and it works!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They just do n't get it.Instead of making harder to pirate , why do n't they make it easier to consume original content ?
That 's what apple did with itunes , and it works !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They just don't get it.Instead of making harder to pirate, why don't they make it easier to consume original content?
That's what apple did with itunes, and it works!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203126</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203324</id>
	<title>Wii will work</title>
	<author>voss</author>
	<datestamp>1266571020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>480p component inputs on tvs will work fine its just 480p outputs on dvd/blue-ray disc players wont. Wii doesnt play DVD's<br>so it wont be affected by the AACS action.</p><p>In any event most wii players dont care about the difference between 480p and 480i</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>480p component inputs on tvs will work fine its just 480p outputs on dvd/blue-ray disc players wont .
Wii doesnt play DVD'sso it wont be affected by the AACS action.In any event most wii players dont care about the difference between 480p and 480i</tokentext>
<sentencetext>480p component inputs on tvs will work fine its just 480p outputs on dvd/blue-ray disc players wont.
Wii doesnt play DVD'sso it wont be affected by the AACS action.In any event most wii players dont care about the difference between 480p and 480i</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203154</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206722</id>
	<title>Re:The Real Analog Hole</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266588840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>WAY cheaper/easier way, the interface between main board and panel driver is usually a bog standard LVDS link...</htmltext>
<tokenext>WAY cheaper/easier way , the interface between main board and panel driver is usually a bog standard LVDS link.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WAY cheaper/easier way, the interface between main board and panel driver is usually a bog standard LVDS link...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203778</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204508</id>
	<title>Re:Why force the market?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266575820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why the surprise?

If the studios could, they would shut down broadcast TV too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why the surprise ?
If the studios could , they would shut down broadcast TV too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why the surprise?
If the studios could, they would shut down broadcast TV too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202982</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204168</id>
	<title>Pirates laughing all the way to the home theatre.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266574200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So once again we have more hoops for paying customers to jump through and perhaps have their legally purchased content automatically downgrade itself in order to "protect" the MPAA and member companies.
Meanwhile everyone who has given up on the ridiculously outdated and self-defeating content distribution system suffers no inconvenience whatsoever.
</p><p>The further along this train wreck progresses the more my outrage turns into bemused detachment.  I haven't bought any non-indie media in quite a long time now (occasionally I catch a movie or concert).  I do feel somewhat sorry for the people who haven't figured out how totally messed up the system is and are going to be badly affected by this, but I just can't bring myself to the point of actual outrage over it any more.
</p><p>How many people are going to just give up trying to be "good consumers" and switch over to piracy based on this?  I would expect it will be far more people than will be dissuaded from participating in casual "copyright infringement" by trying to make backup copies of their media or god forbid just trying to watch a movie they bought on the wrong type of TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So once again we have more hoops for paying customers to jump through and perhaps have their legally purchased content automatically downgrade itself in order to " protect " the MPAA and member companies .
Meanwhile everyone who has given up on the ridiculously outdated and self-defeating content distribution system suffers no inconvenience whatsoever .
The further along this train wreck progresses the more my outrage turns into bemused detachment .
I have n't bought any non-indie media in quite a long time now ( occasionally I catch a movie or concert ) .
I do feel somewhat sorry for the people who have n't figured out how totally messed up the system is and are going to be badly affected by this , but I just ca n't bring myself to the point of actual outrage over it any more .
How many people are going to just give up trying to be " good consumers " and switch over to piracy based on this ?
I would expect it will be far more people than will be dissuaded from participating in casual " copyright infringement " by trying to make backup copies of their media or god forbid just trying to watch a movie they bought on the wrong type of TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So once again we have more hoops for paying customers to jump through and perhaps have their legally purchased content automatically downgrade itself in order to "protect" the MPAA and member companies.
Meanwhile everyone who has given up on the ridiculously outdated and self-defeating content distribution system suffers no inconvenience whatsoever.
The further along this train wreck progresses the more my outrage turns into bemused detachment.
I haven't bought any non-indie media in quite a long time now (occasionally I catch a movie or concert).
I do feel somewhat sorry for the people who haven't figured out how totally messed up the system is and are going to be badly affected by this, but I just can't bring myself to the point of actual outrage over it any more.
How many people are going to just give up trying to be "good consumers" and switch over to piracy based on this?
I would expect it will be far more people than will be dissuaded from participating in casual "copyright infringement" by trying to make backup copies of their media or god forbid just trying to watch a movie they bought on the wrong type of TV.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204046</id>
	<title>Re:no analogue holes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266573660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Monster cables are higher quality than your basic cables.  When most the signals were analog, this made a difference especially on a good AV system.  Now that the signals are digital, the quality does not suffer as much due to the signal degradation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Monster cables are higher quality than your basic cables .
When most the signals were analog , this made a difference especially on a good AV system .
Now that the signals are digital , the quality does not suffer as much due to the signal degradation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Monster cables are higher quality than your basic cables.
When most the signals were analog, this made a difference especially on a good AV system.
Now that the signals are digital, the quality does not suffer as much due to the signal degradation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203048</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31217196</id>
	<title>the point of this is?</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1266748620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>considering that all tv are 720p to 1080p now, I don't see how this is an issue.</p><p>You still have a SD TV?   Then here's your warning to upgrade.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>considering that all tv are 720p to 1080p now , I do n't see how this is an issue.You still have a SD TV ?
Then here 's your warning to upgrade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>considering that all tv are 720p to 1080p now, I don't see how this is an issue.You still have a SD TV?
Then here's your warning to upgrade.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203946</id>
	<title>Re:no analogue holes</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1266573180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You'll never even know it until you get diagnosed with cancer 20 years later.  That's right, folks, we gotta plug the analog hole because analog is radiation, and if there are holes in it it'll cause cancer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'll never even know it until you get diagnosed with cancer 20 years later .
That 's right , folks , we got ta plug the analog hole because analog is radiation , and if there are holes in it it 'll cause cancer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'll never even know it until you get diagnosed with cancer 20 years later.
That's right, folks, we gotta plug the analog hole because analog is radiation, and if there are holes in it it'll cause cancer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205558</id>
	<title>Complete and utter bullshit.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266580680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What does Blu-Ray have to do with home cinema?<br>Discs? From a shop? With a special player? In 2010? You gotta be kiddin me!</p><p>I have a projector with a VGA D-SUB connector, and a 5.1 sound system (optical/coax/analog), and I will continue to play everything fine &rsquo;till the end of all time.</p><p>Why? Because:<br>BitTorrent &mdash; The choice of the real home cinema friend.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Wanna make money off of me? Well, let me pay for actual work (the service of making the movie). Not for imaginary property.</p><p>Man, sometimes I feel like living in a different reality than some people...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What does Blu-Ray have to do with home cinema ? Discs ?
From a shop ?
With a special player ?
In 2010 ?
You got ta be kiddin me ! I have a projector with a VGA D-SUB connector , and a 5.1 sound system ( optical/coax/analog ) , and I will continue to play everything fine    till the end of all time.Why ?
Because : BitTorrent    The choice of the real home cinema friend .
: ) Wan na make money off of me ?
Well , let me pay for actual work ( the service of making the movie ) .
Not for imaginary property.Man , sometimes I feel like living in a different reality than some people.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does Blu-Ray have to do with home cinema?Discs?
From a shop?
With a special player?
In 2010?
You gotta be kiddin me!I have a projector with a VGA D-SUB connector, and a 5.1 sound system (optical/coax/analog), and I will continue to play everything fine ’till the end of all time.Why?
Because:BitTorrent — The choice of the real home cinema friend.
:)Wanna make money off of me?
Well, let me pay for actual work (the service of making the movie).
Not for imaginary property.Man, sometimes I feel like living in a different reality than some people...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204470</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266575700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope this does not offend you, but there are people who do not want to be required to break the law to watch their legally bought movies on their legally bought home-theater equipment...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope this does not offend you , but there are people who do not want to be required to break the law to watch their legally bought movies on their legally bought home-theater equipment.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope this does not offend you, but there are people who do not want to be required to break the law to watch their legally bought movies on their legally bought home-theater equipment...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203062</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203152</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>Em Emalb</author>
	<datestamp>1266570420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I'm definitely trying to get my outrage meter pegged over this, but just can't get the energy together to do it.</p><p>IMO, a complete non-story.  Anything less than 720 isn't frigging "Hi Def" anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I 'm definitely trying to get my outrage meter pegged over this , but just ca n't get the energy together to do it.IMO , a complete non-story .
Anything less than 720 is n't frigging " Hi Def " anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I'm definitely trying to get my outrage meter pegged over this, but just can't get the energy together to do it.IMO, a complete non-story.
Anything less than 720 isn't frigging "Hi Def" anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202962</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203616</id>
	<title>Patent Abuse</title>
	<author>pavon</author>
	<datestamp>1266571980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason they can enforce this is because they can refuse to issue patents related to Blu-ray to any manufacturer that does not agree to their terms, which a blatant abuse patent system.</p><p>The purpose of patents are to promote the development of novel ideas, and the primary mechanism for doing so is to allow the original inventor to be compensated when these ideas are used. A government-granted monopoly is completely unnecessary to accomplish these goals, and is a horrible anachronism in a free market society.</p><p>Patents should be reformed to require all grantees to license their patents to anyone who is willing to pay a reasonable and non-discriminatory fee. This would at least solve the problem of patents being abused to force agendas and limit competition, while still achieving the goal of compensating inventors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason they can enforce this is because they can refuse to issue patents related to Blu-ray to any manufacturer that does not agree to their terms , which a blatant abuse patent system.The purpose of patents are to promote the development of novel ideas , and the primary mechanism for doing so is to allow the original inventor to be compensated when these ideas are used .
A government-granted monopoly is completely unnecessary to accomplish these goals , and is a horrible anachronism in a free market society.Patents should be reformed to require all grantees to license their patents to anyone who is willing to pay a reasonable and non-discriminatory fee .
This would at least solve the problem of patents being abused to force agendas and limit competition , while still achieving the goal of compensating inventors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason they can enforce this is because they can refuse to issue patents related to Blu-ray to any manufacturer that does not agree to their terms, which a blatant abuse patent system.The purpose of patents are to promote the development of novel ideas, and the primary mechanism for doing so is to allow the original inventor to be compensated when these ideas are used.
A government-granted monopoly is completely unnecessary to accomplish these goals, and is a horrible anachronism in a free market society.Patents should be reformed to require all grantees to license their patents to anyone who is willing to pay a reasonable and non-discriminatory fee.
This would at least solve the problem of patents being abused to force agendas and limit competition, while still achieving the goal of compensating inventors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204960</id>
	<title>Re:Why force the market?</title>
	<author>izomiac</author>
	<datestamp>1266577380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's what happens when people learn "facts" rather than concepts.  For history it'd be like spending all your time learning names, places, and dates and only having a very superficial level of knowledge.  OTOH, now I'm curious at to what the 1080s proved...</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what happens when people learn " facts " rather than concepts .
For history it 'd be like spending all your time learning names , places , and dates and only having a very superficial level of knowledge .
OTOH , now I 'm curious at to what the 1080s proved.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what happens when people learn "facts" rather than concepts.
For history it'd be like spending all your time learning names, places, and dates and only having a very superficial level of knowledge.
OTOH, now I'm curious at to what the 1080s proved...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204578</id>
	<title>Re:The Real Analog Hole</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1266576060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>With all the camera and video technologies coming out, I wouldn't be surprised if creating an exact digital replica in the future was as simple as putting a camera in front of a screen and loading in a "record video on a screen" app.</p></div></blockquote><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VEIL" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">You think so?</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>With all the camera and video technologies coming out , I would n't be surprised if creating an exact digital replica in the future was as simple as putting a camera in front of a screen and loading in a " record video on a screen " app.You think so ?
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With all the camera and video technologies coming out, I wouldn't be surprised if creating an exact digital replica in the future was as simple as putting a camera in front of a screen and loading in a "record video on a screen" app.You think so?
[wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206470</id>
	<title>Cable run length is a problem!</title>
	<author>MojoSF</author>
	<datestamp>1266586500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a 70 ft. conduit run from my equipment to the projector in the back of my room. HDMI max run length is, what? 15 ft.?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a 70 ft. conduit run from my equipment to the projector in the back of my room .
HDMI max run length is , what ?
15 ft. ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a 70 ft. conduit run from my equipment to the projector in the back of my room.
HDMI max run length is, what?
15 ft.?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203434</id>
	<title>Re:Are the manufacturers getting more greedy</title>
	<author>causality</author>
	<datestamp>1266571440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.</p></div><p>I guess creating quality products that people want to buy and delivering them at competitive prices is not exciting enough anymore.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.I guess creating quality products that people want to buy and delivering them at competitive prices is not exciting enough anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.I guess creating quality products that people want to buy and delivering them at competitive prices is not exciting enough anymore.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203028</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203774</id>
	<title>Re:Are the manufacturers getting more greedy</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1266572520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I assume your two new TVs have HDMI inputs, right?</p><p>Because if they don't, you'd better buy some extra BluRay players in the next couple of years.  After that, any new BluRay players may come with analog component ports, but they'll only be able to put out low-definition video.</p><p>If they do, then you're probably all set.  Until the industry decides that HDMI isn't secure any more and you need to upgrade to HDMI2 in 2015 to run the new GreenRay standard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume your two new TVs have HDMI inputs , right ? Because if they do n't , you 'd better buy some extra BluRay players in the next couple of years .
After that , any new BluRay players may come with analog component ports , but they 'll only be able to put out low-definition video.If they do , then you 're probably all set .
Until the industry decides that HDMI is n't secure any more and you need to upgrade to HDMI2 in 2015 to run the new GreenRay standard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume your two new TVs have HDMI inputs, right?Because if they don't, you'd better buy some extra BluRay players in the next couple of years.
After that, any new BluRay players may come with analog component ports, but they'll only be able to put out low-definition video.If they do, then you're probably all set.
Until the industry decides that HDMI isn't secure any more and you need to upgrade to HDMI2 in 2015 to run the new GreenRay standard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203194</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203458</id>
	<title>Re:Where?</title>
	<author>HogGeek</author>
	<datestamp>1266571560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe pretty much "everywhere" (at least on this planet).</p><p>The Advanced Access Content System (AACS) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management, intended to restrict access to and copying of the next generation of optical discs and DVDs. The specification was publicly released in April 2005 and the standard has been adopted as the access restriction scheme for HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc (BD). It is developed by AACS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba and Sony. AACS has been operating under an "interim agreement" since the final specification (including provisions for Managed Copy) has not yet been finalised.</p><p>Since appearing in devices in 2006, most AACS decryption keys have been extracted from weakly protected software players and published on the Internet.</p><p>So, if you Buy/rent DVDs and/or Blu-ray - you're screwed (at least in 2011, or until the stream can be modified to remove the security...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe pretty much " everywhere " ( at least on this planet ) .The Advanced Access Content System ( AACS ) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management , intended to restrict access to and copying of the next generation of optical discs and DVDs .
The specification was publicly released in April 2005 and the standard has been adopted as the access restriction scheme for HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc ( BD ) .
It is developed by AACS Licensing Administrator , LLC ( AACS LA ) , a consortium that includes Disney , Intel , Microsoft , Panasonic , Warner Bros. , IBM , Toshiba and Sony .
AACS has been operating under an " interim agreement " since the final specification ( including provisions for Managed Copy ) has not yet been finalised.Since appearing in devices in 2006 , most AACS decryption keys have been extracted from weakly protected software players and published on the Internet.So , if you Buy/rent DVDs and/or Blu-ray - you 're screwed ( at least in 2011 , or until the stream can be modified to remove the security... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe pretty much "everywhere" (at least on this planet).The Advanced Access Content System (AACS) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management, intended to restrict access to and copying of the next generation of optical discs and DVDs.
The specification was publicly released in April 2005 and the standard has been adopted as the access restriction scheme for HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc (BD).
It is developed by AACS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba and Sony.
AACS has been operating under an "interim agreement" since the final specification (including provisions for Managed Copy) has not yet been finalised.Since appearing in devices in 2006, most AACS decryption keys have been extracted from weakly protected software players and published on the Internet.So, if you Buy/rent DVDs and/or Blu-ray - you're screwed (at least in 2011, or until the stream can be modified to remove the security...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207398</id>
	<title>Why not swith to open standands?</title>
	<author>lw7av</author>
	<datestamp>1266596400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Connect devices through wifi or usb.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Connect devices through wifi or usb .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Connect devices through wifi or usb.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203860</id>
	<title>The more the industry does this, the less I buy.</title>
	<author>kawabago</author>
	<datestamp>1266572880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can almost see the day when I will turn off the television for good and I used to buy a lot of movies but now that is rare.  The entertainment industry is walling itself off from it's own audience.  I don't see how that is going to help them. All the technology is focused on the people who do not buy, the people who do buy keep getting shafted so they will stop buying also. DRM won't save the industry once it no longer has an audience.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can almost see the day when I will turn off the television for good and I used to buy a lot of movies but now that is rare .
The entertainment industry is walling itself off from it 's own audience .
I do n't see how that is going to help them .
All the technology is focused on the people who do not buy , the people who do buy keep getting shafted so they will stop buying also .
DRM wo n't save the industry once it no longer has an audience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can almost see the day when I will turn off the television for good and I used to buy a lot of movies but now that is rare.
The entertainment industry is walling itself off from it's own audience.
I don't see how that is going to help them.
All the technology is focused on the people who do not buy, the people who do buy keep getting shafted so they will stop buying also.
DRM won't save the industry once it no longer has an audience.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204688</id>
	<title>Re:Where?</title>
	<author>Anne Thwacks</author>
	<datestamp>1266576420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>If you want to include HDMI connectors on your TV, then you must follow the rules specified by the HDMI licensing companies.</i> <p>
Or sell unlicenced product manufactured in a jurisdiction where no one cares. <br>Anyone want to fund my manufacturing plant in the Democratic Republic of Congo,? (Sierra Leone actually has a "Pirate Bay" <i>see Google Maps)</i> </p><p>
I am confident that even the HDMI consortium are not going to pay to fix the DRC to fix DRM. There is no evidence that money will fix the problems of the DRC anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to include HDMI connectors on your TV , then you must follow the rules specified by the HDMI licensing companies .
Or sell unlicenced product manufactured in a jurisdiction where no one cares .
Anyone want to fund my manufacturing plant in the Democratic Republic of Congo , ?
( Sierra Leone actually has a " Pirate Bay " see Google Maps ) I am confident that even the HDMI consortium are not going to pay to fix the DRC to fix DRM .
There is no evidence that money will fix the problems of the DRC anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to include HDMI connectors on your TV, then you must follow the rules specified by the HDMI licensing companies.
Or sell unlicenced product manufactured in a jurisdiction where no one cares.
Anyone want to fund my manufacturing plant in the Democratic Republic of Congo,?
(Sierra Leone actually has a "Pirate Bay" see Google Maps) 
I am confident that even the HDMI consortium are not going to pay to fix the DRC to fix DRM.
There is no evidence that money will fix the problems of the DRC anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204768</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1266576660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anything higher than the 720x480 that an older CRT will do is high-def. 1280x720 is almost triple the amount of pixels of standard-def video. The definition does not depend entirely on the display device... it depends on the source. Just because you can stretch SD video to your monitor size doesn't make it HD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anything higher than the 720x480 that an older CRT will do is high-def .
1280x720 is almost triple the amount of pixels of standard-def video .
The definition does not depend entirely on the display device... it depends on the source .
Just because you can stretch SD video to your monitor size does n't make it HD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anything higher than the 720x480 that an older CRT will do is high-def.
1280x720 is almost triple the amount of pixels of standard-def video.
The definition does not depend entirely on the display device... it depends on the source.
Just because you can stretch SD video to your monitor size doesn't make it HD.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203170</id>
	<title>2010 The year blu-ray gets bypassed...</title>
	<author>voss</author>
	<datestamp>1266570480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An overpriced underperforming platform get bypassed in favor of digital media players with increasing sizes of flash storage or hd storage.</p><p>Its a story of a clever technology undermined by its own advocates. Why buy a blu-ray player that may not play new favorites 3 months<br>from now when you can get a digital download. The old tech people may stick with DVD while the new tech people may switch<br>over to direct digital download. If Im gonna hook my player up to a network to get firmware updates, I might as well just get a network<br>media player.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An overpriced underperforming platform get bypassed in favor of digital media players with increasing sizes of flash storage or hd storage.Its a story of a clever technology undermined by its own advocates .
Why buy a blu-ray player that may not play new favorites 3 monthsfrom now when you can get a digital download .
The old tech people may stick with DVD while the new tech people may switchover to direct digital download .
If Im gon na hook my player up to a network to get firmware updates , I might as well just get a networkmedia player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An overpriced underperforming platform get bypassed in favor of digital media players with increasing sizes of flash storage or hd storage.Its a story of a clever technology undermined by its own advocates.
Why buy a blu-ray player that may not play new favorites 3 monthsfrom now when you can get a digital download.
The old tech people may stick with DVD while the new tech people may switchover to direct digital download.
If Im gonna hook my player up to a network to get firmware updates, I might as well just get a networkmedia player.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31208404</id>
	<title>Re:Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>b4dc0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1266696360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet you let your automotive oil go around the car several times before you let the injector replace the used oil, and your car is being destroyed from the inside out.  You don't even know it.  And I think I saw you wear that shirt before - did you happen to buy two of the exact same style accidentally, or was it a subtle joke about Germany?  I wasn't sure, but I did chuckle and told my psychiatrist.  She's the best - you'd like her.  She tells me exactly which purchases will make me feel better about myself, and when it's time to switch to donations.  You can never give enough to help those poor people who have to reuse things.  I feel so sorry for them sometimes.  I mean, do I want to carry an entire movie around with me, or do I want to just want to download it from hotbox again whenever I have time - HELLOO??  It only takes a second to download and then when the scene's over SHOOMP! and it's off the desktop.  I just can't stand all that clutter.  Besides, I have to buy new shirts anyway because I keep getting them dirty when I return the 25\% of food I don't have a right to digest.  I'm glad they passed that law, it was unfair to the food industry, and without them we'd not have food, so it's better overall.  I'm on a diet, so I dropped down to the "less than morbid" plan.  It's less food licensing, so I make up the difference by straight up eating dollar bills and shitting them out at the Windows&#174; Media Center&#174; Toilet Edition&#174;, which gives half of it back to the creative people who make the music and movies you watch while donating cash out your ass and takes the other half and sets it on fire as a way to motivate those creepy artists to produce more.  I mean, how can you fit in to a world when you don't even think like everyone else?  Oh, sorry, have to get to the ATM.</p><p>[captcha: halcyon]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet you let your automotive oil go around the car several times before you let the injector replace the used oil , and your car is being destroyed from the inside out .
You do n't even know it .
And I think I saw you wear that shirt before - did you happen to buy two of the exact same style accidentally , or was it a subtle joke about Germany ?
I was n't sure , but I did chuckle and told my psychiatrist .
She 's the best - you 'd like her .
She tells me exactly which purchases will make me feel better about myself , and when it 's time to switch to donations .
You can never give enough to help those poor people who have to reuse things .
I feel so sorry for them sometimes .
I mean , do I want to carry an entire movie around with me , or do I want to just want to download it from hotbox again whenever I have time - HELLOO ? ?
It only takes a second to download and then when the scene 's over SHOOMP !
and it 's off the desktop .
I just ca n't stand all that clutter .
Besides , I have to buy new shirts anyway because I keep getting them dirty when I return the 25 \ % of food I do n't have a right to digest .
I 'm glad they passed that law , it was unfair to the food industry , and without them we 'd not have food , so it 's better overall .
I 'm on a diet , so I dropped down to the " less than morbid " plan .
It 's less food licensing , so I make up the difference by straight up eating dollar bills and shitting them out at the Windows   Media Center   Toilet Edition   , which gives half of it back to the creative people who make the music and movies you watch while donating cash out your ass and takes the other half and sets it on fire as a way to motivate those creepy artists to produce more .
I mean , how can you fit in to a world when you do n't even think like everyone else ?
Oh , sorry , have to get to the ATM .
[ captcha : halcyon ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet you let your automotive oil go around the car several times before you let the injector replace the used oil, and your car is being destroyed from the inside out.
You don't even know it.
And I think I saw you wear that shirt before - did you happen to buy two of the exact same style accidentally, or was it a subtle joke about Germany?
I wasn't sure, but I did chuckle and told my psychiatrist.
She's the best - you'd like her.
She tells me exactly which purchases will make me feel better about myself, and when it's time to switch to donations.
You can never give enough to help those poor people who have to reuse things.
I feel so sorry for them sometimes.
I mean, do I want to carry an entire movie around with me, or do I want to just want to download it from hotbox again whenever I have time - HELLOO??
It only takes a second to download and then when the scene's over SHOOMP!
and it's off the desktop.
I just can't stand all that clutter.
Besides, I have to buy new shirts anyway because I keep getting them dirty when I return the 25\% of food I don't have a right to digest.
I'm glad they passed that law, it was unfair to the food industry, and without them we'd not have food, so it's better overall.
I'm on a diet, so I dropped down to the "less than morbid" plan.
It's less food licensing, so I make up the difference by straight up eating dollar bills and shitting them out at the Windows® Media Center® Toilet Edition®, which gives half of it back to the creative people who make the music and movies you watch while donating cash out your ass and takes the other half and sets it on fire as a way to motivate those creepy artists to produce more.
I mean, how can you fit in to a world when you don't even think like everyone else?
Oh, sorry, have to get to the ATM.
[captcha: halcyon]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207130</id>
	<title>Re:Where?</title>
	<author>Taco Cowboy</author>
	<datestamp>1266593820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Re-read what you have written.</p><p>It's an agreement between the manufacturers, with<b>OUT</b> the consent of the consumers.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I believe pretty much "everywhere" (at least on this planet).</p><p>The Advanced Access Content System (AACS) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management, intended to restrict access to and copying of the next generation of optical discs and DVDs. The specification was publicly released in April 2005 and the standard has been adopted as the access restriction scheme for HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc (BD). It is developed by AACS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba and Sony. AACS has been operating under an "interim agreement" since the final specification (including provisions for Managed Copy) has not yet been finalised.</p><p>Since appearing in devices in 2006, most AACS decryption keys have been extracted from weakly protected software players and published on the Internet.</p><p>So, if you Buy/rent DVDs and/or Blu-ray - you're screwed (at least in 2011, or until the stream can be modified to remove the security...)</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well ...Re-read what you have written.It 's an agreement between the manufacturers , withOUT the consent of the consumers.I believe pretty much " everywhere " ( at least on this planet ) .The Advanced Access Content System ( AACS ) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management , intended to restrict access to and copying of the next generation of optical discs and DVDs .
The specification was publicly released in April 2005 and the standard has been adopted as the access restriction scheme for HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc ( BD ) .
It is developed by AACS Licensing Administrator , LLC ( AACS LA ) , a consortium that includes Disney , Intel , Microsoft , Panasonic , Warner Bros. , IBM , Toshiba and Sony .
AACS has been operating under an " interim agreement " since the final specification ( including provisions for Managed Copy ) has not yet been finalised.Since appearing in devices in 2006 , most AACS decryption keys have been extracted from weakly protected software players and published on the Internet.So , if you Buy/rent DVDs and/or Blu-ray - you 're screwed ( at least in 2011 , or until the stream can be modified to remove the security... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well ...Re-read what you have written.It's an agreement between the manufacturers, withOUT the consent of the consumers.I believe pretty much "everywhere" (at least on this planet).The Advanced Access Content System (AACS) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management, intended to restrict access to and copying of the next generation of optical discs and DVDs.
The specification was publicly released in April 2005 and the standard has been adopted as the access restriction scheme for HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc (BD).
It is developed by AACS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba and Sony.
AACS has been operating under an "interim agreement" since the final specification (including provisions for Managed Copy) has not yet been finalised.Since appearing in devices in 2006, most AACS decryption keys have been extracted from weakly protected software players and published on the Internet.So, if you Buy/rent DVDs and/or Blu-ray - you're screwed (at least in 2011, or until the stream can be modified to remove the security...)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203194</id>
	<title>Re:Are the manufacturers getting more greedy</title>
	<author>Darth Sdlavrot</author>
	<datestamp>1266570540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.</p></div><p>After 25 and 20 years I finally replaced my two TVs. I was going to wait for them to die, but the content I watch these days is mostly high def and they were really no longer suitable.</p><p>I didn't feel the least bit coerced into buying the new sets. I could have hung on to the old sets a lot longer but I didn't want to.</p><p>I wish them luck trying to maximize future sales -- it'll be tough to do if the new sets last anywhere near as long as the old ones did.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.After 25 and 20 years I finally replaced my two TVs .
I was going to wait for them to die , but the content I watch these days is mostly high def and they were really no longer suitable.I did n't feel the least bit coerced into buying the new sets .
I could have hung on to the old sets a lot longer but I did n't want to.I wish them luck trying to maximize future sales -- it 'll be tough to do if the new sets last anywhere near as long as the old ones did .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.After 25 and 20 years I finally replaced my two TVs.
I was going to wait for them to die, but the content I watch these days is mostly high def and they were really no longer suitable.I didn't feel the least bit coerced into buying the new sets.
I could have hung on to the old sets a lot longer but I didn't want to.I wish them luck trying to maximize future sales -- it'll be tough to do if the new sets last anywhere near as long as the old ones did.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203388</id>
	<title>So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266571260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I run a media PC. I want to buy a BD-ROM for it.</p><p>It's DVI -&gt; HDMI for video, and a Tascam USB sound module for audio.</p><p>Should I be concerned about blurays breaking my setup in any form or fashion?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I run a media PC .
I want to buy a BD-ROM for it.It 's DVI - &gt; HDMI for video , and a Tascam USB sound module for audio.Should I be concerned about blurays breaking my setup in any form or fashion ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run a media PC.
I want to buy a BD-ROM for it.It's DVI -&gt; HDMI for video, and a Tascam USB sound module for audio.Should I be concerned about blurays breaking my setup in any form or fashion?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203296</id>
	<title>Re:Bye bye Wii</title>
	<author>The MAZZTer</author>
	<datestamp>1266570900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you have this backwards.  The article is talking about high def streaming over component not being allowed by the devices that will stream the content to your TV.  You're talking about the Wii's low-def streaming over component to the TV... the Wii would have to purposefully downgrade it's quality to be affected by this but it's already at SD so it wouldn't be.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you have this backwards .
The article is talking about high def streaming over component not being allowed by the devices that will stream the content to your TV .
You 're talking about the Wii 's low-def streaming over component to the TV... the Wii would have to purposefully downgrade it 's quality to be affected by this but it 's already at SD so it would n't be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you have this backwards.
The article is talking about high def streaming over component not being allowed by the devices that will stream the content to your TV.
You're talking about the Wii's low-def streaming over component to the TV... the Wii would have to purposefully downgrade it's quality to be affected by this but it's already at SD so it wouldn't be.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31257146</id>
	<title>not a comment</title>
	<author>HisOmniscience</author>
	<datestamp>1265107260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>tagging for links</htmltext>
<tokenext>tagging for links</tokentext>
<sentencetext>tagging for links</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204112</id>
	<title>Re:So, basically, don't bother buying blu-ray?</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1266573960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To me it means just skip the whole thing for a while and wait for the black market to sort it out. Why give your money to companies that specn so much time and money thinking of new ways to screw you?</p><p>Since part of this is about disabling capabilities you have already paid for and been enjoying, it proves that consumers would be wise to not buy anything newer than 5 years old so there's time to see what traps will be sprung after the fact. That and don't buy anything at all that the manufacturer can force an update on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To me it means just skip the whole thing for a while and wait for the black market to sort it out .
Why give your money to companies that specn so much time and money thinking of new ways to screw you ? Since part of this is about disabling capabilities you have already paid for and been enjoying , it proves that consumers would be wise to not buy anything newer than 5 years old so there 's time to see what traps will be sprung after the fact .
That and do n't buy anything at all that the manufacturer can force an update on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me it means just skip the whole thing for a while and wait for the black market to sort it out.
Why give your money to companies that specn so much time and money thinking of new ways to screw you?Since part of this is about disabling capabilities you have already paid for and been enjoying, it proves that consumers would be wise to not buy anything newer than 5 years old so there's time to see what traps will be sprung after the fact.
That and don't buy anything at all that the manufacturer can force an update on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31208230</id>
	<title>Re:Why force the market?</title>
	<author>halowolf</author>
	<datestamp>1266606660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We don't have to wait for old TV's to slowly die as our new TV's will be out of date with 3D televisions on the scene.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We do n't have to wait for old TV 's to slowly die as our new TV 's will be out of date with 3D televisions on the scene .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We don't have to wait for old TV's to slowly die as our new TV's will be out of date with 3D televisions on the scene.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203722</id>
	<title>Re:Where?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266572340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't by law or regulation:  This is a licensing term.  If you want to include HDMI connectors on your TV, then you must follow the rules specified by the HDMI licensing companies.</p><p>This is a world-wide rule that impacts every country that upholds the HMDI contract.</p><p>It feels like HDMI has a MONOPOLY here.  Congress SHOULD pass a law making this kind of contract term illegal.  Here's a place where some regulation would do some GOOD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't by law or regulation : This is a licensing term .
If you want to include HDMI connectors on your TV , then you must follow the rules specified by the HDMI licensing companies.This is a world-wide rule that impacts every country that upholds the HMDI contract.It feels like HDMI has a MONOPOLY here .
Congress SHOULD pass a law making this kind of contract term illegal .
Here 's a place where some regulation would do some GOOD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't by law or regulation:  This is a licensing term.
If you want to include HDMI connectors on your TV, then you must follow the rules specified by the HDMI licensing companies.This is a world-wide rule that impacts every country that upholds the HMDI contract.It feels like HDMI has a MONOPOLY here.
Congress SHOULD pass a law making this kind of contract term illegal.
Here's a place where some regulation would do some GOOD.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206612</id>
	<title>Re:Optical storage is dead anyway</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1266587760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There is so much streaming stuff out there now, torrents of stuff ripped from streams and paid downloaded movies that optical storage is not really necessary or useful anymore.</i></p><p>I'm not sure where you're from, but in the USA, 25\% of the population doesn't even use the Internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is so much streaming stuff out there now , torrents of stuff ripped from streams and paid downloaded movies that optical storage is not really necessary or useful anymore.I 'm not sure where you 're from , but in the USA , 25 \ % of the population does n't even use the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is so much streaming stuff out there now, torrents of stuff ripped from streams and paid downloaded movies that optical storage is not really necessary or useful anymore.I'm not sure where you're from, but in the USA, 25\% of the population doesn't even use the Internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204850</id>
	<title>Re:Why force the market?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266576960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>Somehow I still doubt it will work. People don't like being told they can't have their way and someone will find a way to give them what they want anyways.</p></div></blockquote><p>Yeah, the 1920s proved that.</p><p>I used to think that people don't learn history.  They do.  What they don't learn is the ability to see how the current, "new" situation is similar to things that have happened before under similar conditions and can be expected to yield the same results.  So every new development like this is a surprise to them.  When it succeeds only in creating a market (underground, if need be) for non-compliant players that do what the customer wants, I guess the businesses behind this will be surprised too.</p></div><p>Or as Slashdot proves, many people only know history superficially and in the effort to appear smart wrongly try to apply it to incompatible modern day situations.  (*cough* USA = Roman Empire analogies *cough*)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somehow I still doubt it will work .
People do n't like being told they ca n't have their way and someone will find a way to give them what they want anyways.Yeah , the 1920s proved that.I used to think that people do n't learn history .
They do .
What they do n't learn is the ability to see how the current , " new " situation is similar to things that have happened before under similar conditions and can be expected to yield the same results .
So every new development like this is a surprise to them .
When it succeeds only in creating a market ( underground , if need be ) for non-compliant players that do what the customer wants , I guess the businesses behind this will be surprised too.Or as Slashdot proves , many people only know history superficially and in the effort to appear smart wrongly try to apply it to incompatible modern day situations .
( * cough * USA = Roman Empire analogies * cough * )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somehow I still doubt it will work.
People don't like being told they can't have their way and someone will find a way to give them what they want anyways.Yeah, the 1920s proved that.I used to think that people don't learn history.
They do.
What they don't learn is the ability to see how the current, "new" situation is similar to things that have happened before under similar conditions and can be expected to yield the same results.
So every new development like this is a surprise to them.
When it succeeds only in creating a market (underground, if need be) for non-compliant players that do what the customer wants, I guess the businesses behind this will be surprised too.Or as Slashdot proves, many people only know history superficially and in the effort to appear smart wrongly try to apply it to incompatible modern day situations.
(*cough* USA = Roman Empire analogies *cough*)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203050</id>
	<title>Nintendo Wii without Component?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about the Nintendo Wii?  There is no HDMI cable for it currently available.  Will it be illegal for monoprice.com to sell those sweet $6 Wii component cables that allow... get this 480p resolution, which would not be allowed by this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the Nintendo Wii ?
There is no HDMI cable for it currently available .
Will it be illegal for monoprice.com to sell those sweet $ 6 Wii component cables that allow... get this 480p resolution , which would not be allowed by this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the Nintendo Wii?
There is no HDMI cable for it currently available.
Will it be illegal for monoprice.com to sell those sweet $6 Wii component cables that allow... get this 480p resolution, which would not be allowed by this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203540</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>Amouth</author>
	<datestamp>1266571800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the let alone now part is wrong - if you take alook around 80\% of laptops being sold today have that shitty 1366x768 screen even when they are 15in..

sorry but sadly the quality of the average screen has been going down hill for a long time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the let alone now part is wrong - if you take alook around 80 \ % of laptops being sold today have that shitty 1366x768 screen even when they are 15in. . sorry but sadly the quality of the average screen has been going down hill for a long time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the let alone now part is wrong - if you take alook around 80\% of laptops being sold today have that shitty 1366x768 screen even when they are 15in..

sorry but sadly the quality of the average screen has been going down hill for a long time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31209198</id>
	<title>Re:Where?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1266669540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not stupid regulation: anywhere else</p></div><p>I think you misspelled Pixieland.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not stupid regulation : anywhere elseI think you misspelled Pixieland .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not stupid regulation: anywhere elseI think you misspelled Pixieland.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207264</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>Tycho</author>
	<datestamp>1266594840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><ul> <li>$25 for component</li><li>$60 for HDMI</li><li>Unchecked licensing authority</li></ul><p>What we have is a perfect recipe for greed!</p></div><p>We are already far into this situation, the corporation to blame is Silicon Image: <a href="http://www.edn.com/blog/400000040/post/1850046185.html" title="edn.com">http://www.edn.com/blog/400000040/post/1850046185.html</a> [edn.com]</p><p>Oddly enough, it is actually significantly <i>more difficult</i> to get decent signal quality out of HDMI as than analog VGA or DisplayPort.  I suppose it would be bad to mention that the only major difference between HDMI and VGA is that in HDMI the three color signals are encoded in a crappy digital encoding along with an additional clock signal in the previously mentioned encoding scheme. Note that clock signal in HDMI is not used for the vertical and horizontal sync pulses, those work the same as they do in VGA.  I would think that if this goes through, Silicon Image and friends will have questions to answer from the US FTC, the EC, and maybe even the Japanese JFTC.  It isn't like a market structured like this can last very long without governmental inquiry or a situation where the entire set of 40-bit encryption keys used in HDMI are uncovered after being brute forced in a trivially easy fashion.</p><p>Then again, it isn't even like HDMI does any good for that matter, the issues with the wide open hole of BD-J authentication and encryption make recording a file from even a decrypted HDMI output port pointlessly difficult.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 25 for component $ 60 for HDMIUnchecked licensing authorityWhat we have is a perfect recipe for greed ! We are already far into this situation , the corporation to blame is Silicon Image : http : //www.edn.com/blog/400000040/post/1850046185.html [ edn.com ] Oddly enough , it is actually significantly more difficult to get decent signal quality out of HDMI as than analog VGA or DisplayPort .
I suppose it would be bad to mention that the only major difference between HDMI and VGA is that in HDMI the three color signals are encoded in a crappy digital encoding along with an additional clock signal in the previously mentioned encoding scheme .
Note that clock signal in HDMI is not used for the vertical and horizontal sync pulses , those work the same as they do in VGA .
I would think that if this goes through , Silicon Image and friends will have questions to answer from the US FTC , the EC , and maybe even the Japanese JFTC .
It is n't like a market structured like this can last very long without governmental inquiry or a situation where the entire set of 40-bit encryption keys used in HDMI are uncovered after being brute forced in a trivially easy fashion.Then again , it is n't even like HDMI does any good for that matter , the issues with the wide open hole of BD-J authentication and encryption make recording a file from even a decrypted HDMI output port pointlessly difficult .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> $25 for component$60 for HDMIUnchecked licensing authorityWhat we have is a perfect recipe for greed!We are already far into this situation, the corporation to blame is Silicon Image: http://www.edn.com/blog/400000040/post/1850046185.html [edn.com]Oddly enough, it is actually significantly more difficult to get decent signal quality out of HDMI as than analog VGA or DisplayPort.
I suppose it would be bad to mention that the only major difference between HDMI and VGA is that in HDMI the three color signals are encoded in a crappy digital encoding along with an additional clock signal in the previously mentioned encoding scheme.
Note that clock signal in HDMI is not used for the vertical and horizontal sync pulses, those work the same as they do in VGA.
I would think that if this goes through, Silicon Image and friends will have questions to answer from the US FTC, the EC, and maybe even the Japanese JFTC.
It isn't like a market structured like this can last very long without governmental inquiry or a situation where the entire set of 40-bit encryption keys used in HDMI are uncovered after being brute forced in a trivially easy fashion.Then again, it isn't even like HDMI does any good for that matter, the issues with the wide open hole of BD-J authentication and encryption make recording a file from even a decrypted HDMI output port pointlessly difficult.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203028</id>
	<title>Are the manufacturers getting more greedy</title>
	<author>BlueTrin</author>
	<datestamp>1266613140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204300</id>
	<title>They will never heed the most basic truth</title>
	<author>killmenow</author>
	<datestamp>1266574860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lot's of comments already so probably nobody will see this but it's been said before and it's the most basic truth that the MPAA and RIAA et. al. need to come to grips with eventually:<br>
<br>
If it can be read it can be copied.<br>
<br>
The only way to prevent people from copying their precious Hi-Def movies and super awesome digital music is to prevent them from PLAYING them. Which in a sick and twisted sort of way appears to be what they are slowly trying to accomplish.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lot 's of comments already so probably nobody will see this but it 's been said before and it 's the most basic truth that the MPAA and RIAA et .
al. need to come to grips with eventually : If it can be read it can be copied .
The only way to prevent people from copying their precious Hi-Def movies and super awesome digital music is to prevent them from PLAYING them .
Which in a sick and twisted sort of way appears to be what they are slowly trying to accomplish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lot's of comments already so probably nobody will see this but it's been said before and it's the most basic truth that the MPAA and RIAA et.
al. need to come to grips with eventually:

If it can be read it can be copied.
The only way to prevent people from copying their precious Hi-Def movies and super awesome digital music is to prevent them from PLAYING them.
Which in a sick and twisted sort of way appears to be what they are slowly trying to accomplish.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204736</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>fritsd</author>
	<datestamp>1266576540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
I don't understand. Why? Please enlighten us.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted .
I do n't understand .
Why ? Please enlighten us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted.
I don't understand.
Why? Please enlighten us.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203704</id>
	<title>Re:no analogue holes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266572280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know, but I have a lifetime warranty power strip from them that also "cleans power" and it's actually pretty nice just in general. Spaces for large plugs, labeled places to plug in my TV, receiver, etc.  And it recently got killed by a power surge.</p><p>They replaced it, but not no-questions asked.  They asked if any of my electronics died.  Why?  They wanted to honor their $150K guarantee my electronics won't fry.</p><p>Frankly, it's worth the extra cost if you're willing to pursue painless warranty claims.  I plan to make them make good on this for the rest of my natural life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know , but I have a lifetime warranty power strip from them that also " cleans power " and it 's actually pretty nice just in general .
Spaces for large plugs , labeled places to plug in my TV , receiver , etc .
And it recently got killed by a power surge.They replaced it , but not no-questions asked .
They asked if any of my electronics died .
Why ? They wanted to honor their $ 150K guarantee my electronics wo n't fry.Frankly , it 's worth the extra cost if you 're willing to pursue painless warranty claims .
I plan to make them make good on this for the rest of my natural life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know, but I have a lifetime warranty power strip from them that also "cleans power" and it's actually pretty nice just in general.
Spaces for large plugs, labeled places to plug in my TV, receiver, etc.
And it recently got killed by a power surge.They replaced it, but not no-questions asked.
They asked if any of my electronics died.
Why?  They wanted to honor their $150K guarantee my electronics won't fry.Frankly, it's worth the extra cost if you're willing to pursue painless warranty claims.
I plan to make them make good on this for the rest of my natural life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204164</id>
	<title>Market manipulation?</title>
	<author>DeltaQH</author>
	<datestamp>1266574200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can the restrictions be interpreted as a market manipulation? Creating artificial scarceness to raise prises?  Old business model trying to survive cornering the market? Wouldn't that be illegal in normal markets?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can the restrictions be interpreted as a market manipulation ?
Creating artificial scarceness to raise prises ?
Old business model trying to survive cornering the market ?
Would n't that be illegal in normal markets ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can the restrictions be interpreted as a market manipulation?
Creating artificial scarceness to raise prises?
Old business model trying to survive cornering the market?
Wouldn't that be illegal in normal markets?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31208964</id>
	<title>Re:No more intelligent responses...</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1266664320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I typically try to express some kind of intelligent or informed opinion on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. stories, but all I can come up with here is, "Screw you, AACS." I have not yet moved to Blu-Ray or an HD TV, and this makes me much less likely to want to. Bastards.</p></div><p>Actually, it seems to me that having already bought a HDTV is advantageous here, since it will still have support for HD component.<br>That said, I predict an increasing trend of watching TV on desktops/netbooks. It's been ages since I used mine.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I typically try to express some kind of intelligent or informed opinion on / .
stories , but all I can come up with here is , " Screw you , AACS .
" I have not yet moved to Blu-Ray or an HD TV , and this makes me much less likely to want to .
Bastards.Actually , it seems to me that having already bought a HDTV is advantageous here , since it will still have support for HD component.That said , I predict an increasing trend of watching TV on desktops/netbooks .
It 's been ages since I used mine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I typically try to express some kind of intelligent or informed opinion on /.
stories, but all I can come up with here is, "Screw you, AACS.
" I have not yet moved to Blu-Ray or an HD TV, and this makes me much less likely to want to.
Bastards.Actually, it seems to me that having already bought a HDTV is advantageous here, since it will still have support for HD component.That said, I predict an increasing trend of watching TV on desktops/netbooks.
It's been ages since I used mine.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203102</id>
	<title>Well, its like the old saying goes...</title>
	<author>deisama</author>
	<datestamp>1266570180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you're having trouble selling a product, try and limit your available audience even more!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you 're having trouble selling a product , try and limit your available audience even more !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you're having trouble selling a product, try and limit your available audience even more!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31210442</id>
	<title>Re:Pirates laughing all the way to the home theatr</title>
	<author>Frankenbuffer</author>
	<datestamp>1266686100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a young generation-and-a-half-growing up with the baked-in notion that consuming media "legitimately" is costly and a PITA compared to piracy options. As these people grow into more leadership roles in society, we'll start to see a sea-change in how media is consumed. The rise of the Internet was one such sea-change. The baby boomer generation that runs most things today barely figured that one out. But the boomers sure aren't surviving the piracy sea-change. Once the boomers are finally out of power, maybe then we'll start to see some real change in how media is distributed and consumed. These are deeply held cultural habits that tend to require a generation or two of evolution to evolve.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a young generation-and-a-half-growing up with the baked-in notion that consuming media " legitimately " is costly and a PITA compared to piracy options .
As these people grow into more leadership roles in society , we 'll start to see a sea-change in how media is consumed .
The rise of the Internet was one such sea-change .
The baby boomer generation that runs most things today barely figured that one out .
But the boomers sure are n't surviving the piracy sea-change .
Once the boomers are finally out of power , maybe then we 'll start to see some real change in how media is distributed and consumed .
These are deeply held cultural habits that tend to require a generation or two of evolution to evolve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a young generation-and-a-half-growing up with the baked-in notion that consuming media "legitimately" is costly and a PITA compared to piracy options.
As these people grow into more leadership roles in society, we'll start to see a sea-change in how media is consumed.
The rise of the Internet was one such sea-change.
The baby boomer generation that runs most things today barely figured that one out.
But the boomers sure aren't surviving the piracy sea-change.
Once the boomers are finally out of power, maybe then we'll start to see some real change in how media is distributed and consumed.
These are deeply held cultural habits that tend to require a generation or two of evolution to evolve.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203632</id>
	<title>Like people need another reason to not use legit</title>
	<author>LarrySDonald</author>
	<datestamp>1266572100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Content and components developed and made by legitimate providers should, in theory, be better then simply just DLing, connecting the HDMI to your laptop and calling it a day. That's of course a pipe dream - pirated components and content is always going to be slightly better, but is this really the time to make the legit side even worse? I've been hearing they're not exactly tolling in dough and this won't really hurt anyone willing to use non-licensed components, only those who bother to actually pay them (otherwise known as the last people you want to alienate further).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Content and components developed and made by legitimate providers should , in theory , be better then simply just DLing , connecting the HDMI to your laptop and calling it a day .
That 's of course a pipe dream - pirated components and content is always going to be slightly better , but is this really the time to make the legit side even worse ?
I 've been hearing they 're not exactly tolling in dough and this wo n't really hurt anyone willing to use non-licensed components , only those who bother to actually pay them ( otherwise known as the last people you want to alienate further ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Content and components developed and made by legitimate providers should, in theory, be better then simply just DLing, connecting the HDMI to your laptop and calling it a day.
That's of course a pipe dream - pirated components and content is always going to be slightly better, but is this really the time to make the legit side even worse?
I've been hearing they're not exactly tolling in dough and this won't really hurt anyone willing to use non-licensed components, only those who bother to actually pay them (otherwise known as the last people you want to alienate further).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203126</id>
	<title>Not Shortly After, if not already.</title>
	<author>Icegryphon</author>
	<datestamp>1266570300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We will have ways to split the HD signal anyways.<br>
Do they honestly think they can stop someone from splitting the source device?<br>
I have many Y adapters, Not all work well, but I am sure HD has many will have many solutions.<br>
Output a laptop HDMI to a Capture card on another system, TADA<br>
Why don't they just give up and stop making it hard for the common user<br>
When I hear unbreakable technology it always sounds like a challenge just calling me</htmltext>
<tokenext>We will have ways to split the HD signal anyways .
Do they honestly think they can stop someone from splitting the source device ?
I have many Y adapters , Not all work well , but I am sure HD has many will have many solutions .
Output a laptop HDMI to a Capture card on another system , TADA Why do n't they just give up and stop making it hard for the common user When I hear unbreakable technology it always sounds like a challenge just calling me</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We will have ways to split the HD signal anyways.
Do they honestly think they can stop someone from splitting the source device?
I have many Y adapters, Not all work well, but I am sure HD has many will have many solutions.
Output a laptop HDMI to a Capture card on another system, TADA
Why don't they just give up and stop making it hard for the common user
When I hear unbreakable technology it always sounds like a challenge just calling me</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204170</id>
	<title>Yawn</title>
	<author>wiredlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1266574200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have no intention of ever buying into BluRay precisely because of the ability to play these sort of anti-consumer games. Wake me up when they start their attack on HD OTA broadcasts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have no intention of ever buying into BluRay precisely because of the ability to play these sort of anti-consumer games .
Wake me up when they start their attack on HD OTA broadcasts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have no intention of ever buying into BluRay precisely because of the ability to play these sort of anti-consumer games.
Wake me up when they start their attack on HD OTA broadcasts.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204274</id>
	<title>Advanced Access Content System?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266574740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Advanced Access <b>Control</b> System</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Advanced Access Control System</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Advanced Access Control System</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203656</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>kmankmankman2001</author>
	<datestamp>1266572160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There will still be plenty of HDMI to composite converters coming out of China, etc.</p></div><p>Wouldn't there be much more interest in HDMI to *component* conversion?  Composite is the bottom rung of the options as far as quality goes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There will still be plenty of HDMI to composite converters coming out of China , etc.Would n't there be much more interest in HDMI to * component * conversion ?
Composite is the bottom rung of the options as far as quality goes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There will still be plenty of HDMI to composite converters coming out of China, etc.Wouldn't there be much more interest in HDMI to *component* conversion?
Composite is the bottom rung of the options as far as quality goes.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204072</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1266573780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>What we have is a perfect recipe for greed!</i> </p><p>HDMI is becoming the single cable solution for everything.</p><p> Ethernet. Audio Return. 3D over HDMI. 4Kx2K video support in HDMI 1.4 and so on.  The 6' HDMI 1.4 cable isn't $60. It's $8.50. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/PTC-Premium-Speed-Cable-Ethernet/dp/B002U4KK22" title="amazon.com">PTC ALL NEW 6 ft Premium GOLD Series Dual tone HDMI 1.4 High Speed HDMI Cable</a> [amazon.com] </p><p>I think the path were headed on is rental or purchase of optical media for the full theater experience and on-demand streaming for everything else. Nursing the P2P download of an amateur's H.264 rip isn't going to be worth the trouble.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What we have is a perfect recipe for greed !
HDMI is becoming the single cable solution for everything .
Ethernet. Audio Return .
3D over HDMI .
4Kx2K video support in HDMI 1.4 and so on .
The 6 ' HDMI 1.4 cable is n't $ 60 .
It 's $ 8.50 .
PTC ALL NEW 6 ft Premium GOLD Series Dual tone HDMI 1.4 High Speed HDMI Cable [ amazon.com ] I think the path were headed on is rental or purchase of optical media for the full theater experience and on-demand streaming for everything else .
Nursing the P2P download of an amateur 's H.264 rip is n't going to be worth the trouble .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What we have is a perfect recipe for greed!
HDMI is becoming the single cable solution for everything.
Ethernet. Audio Return.
3D over HDMI.
4Kx2K video support in HDMI 1.4 and so on.
The 6' HDMI 1.4 cable isn't $60.
It's $8.50.
PTC ALL NEW 6 ft Premium GOLD Series Dual tone HDMI 1.4 High Speed HDMI Cable [amazon.com] I think the path were headed on is rental or purchase of optical media for the full theater experience and on-demand streaming for everything else.
Nursing the P2P download of an amateur's H.264 rip isn't going to be worth the trouble.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203360</id>
	<title>Re:Are the manufacturers getting more greedy</title>
	<author>geekmux</author>
	<datestamp>1266571140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.</p></div><p>Give me a break.  The only thing that's "standard" these days is the never-ending mantra in Sales that says as long as you continue to make something that falls into the "latest and greatest" bucket every 3-6 months, you'll have gullible customers out there buying it up like hotcakes.</p><p>I mean c'mon, I like Apple and all, but they are the WORST (and the BEST) at "new and improved"...Like they REALLY did a whole hell of a lot to the "new" iPod that replaces that 6-month "old" model.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.Give me a break .
The only thing that 's " standard " these days is the never-ending mantra in Sales that says as long as you continue to make something that falls into the " latest and greatest " bucket every 3-6 months , you 'll have gullible customers out there buying it up like hotcakes.I mean c'mon , I like Apple and all , but they are the WORST ( and the BEST ) at " new and improved " ...Like they REALLY did a whole hell of a lot to the " new " iPod that replaces that 6-month " old " model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems that lately every manufacturer is trying to impose new standard in order to maximize their future sales.Give me a break.
The only thing that's "standard" these days is the never-ending mantra in Sales that says as long as you continue to make something that falls into the "latest and greatest" bucket every 3-6 months, you'll have gullible customers out there buying it up like hotcakes.I mean c'mon, I like Apple and all, but they are the WORST (and the BEST) at "new and improved"...Like they REALLY did a whole hell of a lot to the "new" iPod that replaces that 6-month "old" model.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205766</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>triffid\_98</author>
	<datestamp>1266581760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quite a few HDTV's have an optical line out, so you can still run the sound through your home theater without encrypted HDMI support.
<br> <br>
This does mean you'll have to do video source switching from the TV, something people with older receivers needed to do anyway.<blockquote><div><p> <i>
Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted. Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system (minus a few very, very high end ones) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI. I have my DVD player, and Boxee box outputting HDMI to the reciever. It strips the digital audio out of the system, and then passes the video on to the TV.

If they start doing AACS, and forcing encryption over HDMI, then if I buy a new component that meets the new standard; I either need to buy a very expensive receiver, or just watch video's in my room with the wonderful craptacular speakers built into my TV.
</i></p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite a few HDTV 's have an optical line out , so you can still run the sound through your home theater without encrypted HDMI support .
This does mean you 'll have to do video source switching from the TV , something people with older receivers needed to do anyway .
Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted .
Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system ( minus a few very , very high end ones ) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI .
I have my DVD player , and Boxee box outputting HDMI to the reciever .
It strips the digital audio out of the system , and then passes the video on to the TV .
If they start doing AACS , and forcing encryption over HDMI , then if I buy a new component that meets the new standard ; I either need to buy a very expensive receiver , or just watch video 's in my room with the wonderful craptacular speakers built into my TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite a few HDTV's have an optical line out, so you can still run the sound through your home theater without encrypted HDMI support.
This does mean you'll have to do video source switching from the TV, something people with older receivers needed to do anyway.
Your not understanding.. All high def has to be encrypted.
Which means pretty much any home theater stereo system (minus a few very, very high end ones) will no longer work with encrypted HDMI.
I have my DVD player, and Boxee box outputting HDMI to the reciever.
It strips the digital audio out of the system, and then passes the video on to the TV.
If they start doing AACS, and forcing encryption over HDMI, then if I buy a new component that meets the new standard; I either need to buy a very expensive receiver, or just watch video's in my room with the wonderful craptacular speakers built into my TV.
 
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31202984</id>
	<title>Is this really an issue?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266613020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will this really inconvenience that many people? Who built an HD system since Blu-Ray became standard that isn't ready for HDMI?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will this really inconvenience that many people ?
Who built an HD system since Blu-Ray became standard that is n't ready for HDMI ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will this really inconvenience that many people?
Who built an HD system since Blu-Ray became standard that isn't ready for HDMI?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203398</id>
	<title>Re:Why force the market?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266571260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Somehow I still doubt it will work. People don't like being told they can't have their way and someone will find a way to give them what they want anyways.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Yeah, the 1920s proved that.
<br> <br>
I used to think that people don't learn history.  They do.  What they don't learn is the ability to see how the current, "new" situation is similar to things that have happened before under similar conditions and can be expected to yield the same results.  So every new development like this is a surprise to them.  When it succeeds only in creating a market (underground, if need be) for non-compliant players that do what the customer wants, I guess the businesses behind this will be surprised too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somehow I still doubt it will work .
People do n't like being told they ca n't have their way and someone will find a way to give them what they want anyways .
Yeah , the 1920s proved that .
I used to think that people do n't learn history .
They do .
What they do n't learn is the ability to see how the current , " new " situation is similar to things that have happened before under similar conditions and can be expected to yield the same results .
So every new development like this is a surprise to them .
When it succeeds only in creating a market ( underground , if need be ) for non-compliant players that do what the customer wants , I guess the businesses behind this will be surprised too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somehow I still doubt it will work.
People don't like being told they can't have their way and someone will find a way to give them what they want anyways.
Yeah, the 1920s proved that.
I used to think that people don't learn history.
They do.
What they don't learn is the ability to see how the current, "new" situation is similar to things that have happened before under similar conditions and can be expected to yield the same results.
So every new development like this is a surprise to them.
When it succeeds only in creating a market (underground, if need be) for non-compliant players that do what the customer wants, I guess the businesses behind this will be surprised too.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205098</id>
	<title>Re:The Real Analog Hole</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1266578160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why analog?  At some point that content is being decrypted inside the screen.  It should be possible to open the thing up and dump it and get a 1:1 digital un-encrypted copy.  Sure, it's technically daunting but it only has to be done once per video.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why analog ?
At some point that content is being decrypted inside the screen .
It should be possible to open the thing up and dump it and get a 1 : 1 digital un-encrypted copy .
Sure , it 's technically daunting but it only has to be done once per video .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why analog?
At some point that content is being decrypted inside the screen.
It should be possible to open the thing up and dump it and get a 1:1 digital un-encrypted copy.
Sure, it's technically daunting but it only has to be done once per video.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204014</id>
	<title>Re:Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1266573480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Now my country does levy a blank CD tax...Oh yeah, I never buy any blank discs because EVERYTHING is on Hard drives or flash cards.<br>I'm laughing man, because I am so not legit.<br>Ok, queue up the haters, I don't give a shit what any of you think.</p></div><p>You know what I think? You're not going to have to re-buy all your stuff when they come out with the next standard after blue-ray. You'll just have to download things again. Not too shabby.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now my country does levy a blank CD tax...Oh yeah , I never buy any blank discs because EVERYTHING is on Hard drives or flash cards.I 'm laughing man , because I am so not legit.Ok , queue up the haters , I do n't give a shit what any of you think.You know what I think ?
You 're not going to have to re-buy all your stuff when they come out with the next standard after blue-ray .
You 'll just have to download things again .
Not too shabby .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now my country does levy a blank CD tax...Oh yeah, I never buy any blank discs because EVERYTHING is on Hard drives or flash cards.I'm laughing man, because I am so not legit.Ok, queue up the haters, I don't give a shit what any of you think.You know what I think?
You're not going to have to re-buy all your stuff when they come out with the next standard after blue-ray.
You'll just have to download things again.
Not too shabby.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31205426</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1266579780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I mean we're talking 720p is 1280x720. That's not exactly high resolution when you think of what the average monitor from 1990 or even 2000 can do, let alone now.</p></div> </blockquote><p>The average CRT monitor from 2000 could do far higher resolutions than the average LCD panel can nowadays. That's one thing we've regressed at.</p><p>I wonder if it would be possible to forget LCD and just build the monitor from small diodes? They <em>are</em> semiconductors, so there should be no reason they can't be made very small, and a quick look at Wikipedia seems to suggest that they come in red, green and blue.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean we 're talking 720p is 1280x720 .
That 's not exactly high resolution when you think of what the average monitor from 1990 or even 2000 can do , let alone now .
The average CRT monitor from 2000 could do far higher resolutions than the average LCD panel can nowadays .
That 's one thing we 've regressed at.I wonder if it would be possible to forget LCD and just build the monitor from small diodes ?
They are semiconductors , so there should be no reason they ca n't be made very small , and a quick look at Wikipedia seems to suggest that they come in red , green and blue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean we're talking 720p is 1280x720.
That's not exactly high resolution when you think of what the average monitor from 1990 or even 2000 can do, let alone now.
The average CRT monitor from 2000 could do far higher resolutions than the average LCD panel can nowadays.
That's one thing we've regressed at.I wonder if it would be possible to forget LCD and just build the monitor from small diodes?
They are semiconductors, so there should be no reason they can't be made very small, and a quick look at Wikipedia seems to suggest that they come in red, green and blue.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31206386</id>
	<title>Re:Money Money Money</title>
	<author>synthesizerpatel</author>
	<datestamp>1266585900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>best summation of expensive digital cables ever</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>best summation of expensive digital cables ever</tokentext>
<sentencetext>best summation of expensive digital cables ever</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203154</id>
	<title>Bye bye Wii</title>
	<author>RobVB</author>
	<datestamp>1266570420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least in its current form. Maybe Nintendo will come up with a new HDMI version (which would be unnecessarily more expensive, and would most likely still only deliver 480p because of the Wii's technical limitations), or they will rush out Wii2, which will be buggy as hell because of insufficient testing (they have little over 10 months).</p><p>That, or Nintendo &gt; AACS. I figure this last option is the most likely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least in its current form .
Maybe Nintendo will come up with a new HDMI version ( which would be unnecessarily more expensive , and would most likely still only deliver 480p because of the Wii 's technical limitations ) , or they will rush out Wii2 , which will be buggy as hell because of insufficient testing ( they have little over 10 months ) .That , or Nintendo &gt; AACS .
I figure this last option is the most likely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least in its current form.
Maybe Nintendo will come up with a new HDMI version (which would be unnecessarily more expensive, and would most likely still only deliver 480p because of the Wii's technical limitations), or they will rush out Wii2, which will be buggy as hell because of insufficient testing (they have little over 10 months).That, or Nintendo &gt; AACS.
I figure this last option is the most likely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203948</id>
	<title>Re:Shrug. Only affects legitimate consumers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266573180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd keep the dvd drive around at least so you can make some backups or live disks</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd keep the dvd drive around at least so you can make some backups or live disks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd keep the dvd drive around at least so you can make some backups or live disks</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203070</id>
	<title>Re:Just buy the unofficial ones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There will still be plenty of HDMI to composite converters coming out of China, etc.</p></div><p>That's the crux of most media problems. These people don't realize / don't care that you can often</p><p>a. spend less</p><p>and / or</p><p>b. get a superior product</p><p>by going through non-standard channels.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There will still be plenty of HDMI to composite converters coming out of China , etc.That 's the crux of most media problems .
These people do n't realize / do n't care that you can oftena .
spend lessand / orb .
get a superior productby going through non-standard channels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There will still be plenty of HDMI to composite converters coming out of China, etc.That's the crux of most media problems.
These people don't realize / don't care that you can oftena.
spend lessand / orb.
get a superior productby going through non-standard channels.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31204156</id>
	<title>HDMI = PITA</title>
	<author>Fishbulb</author>
	<datestamp>1266574140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Due to the enforced end-to-end DRM nature of HDMI, switching components can be a pain in the ass.  I've had no end of trouble getting HDMI switching correct.  It seems that if a component is already on before my receiver is up, or switched to that component, that HDMI won't negotiate correctly and often requires the whole chain to power off and power back on.</p><p>Not that it prevents the piracy that HDMI exists solely to prevent...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Due to the enforced end-to-end DRM nature of HDMI , switching components can be a pain in the ass .
I 've had no end of trouble getting HDMI switching correct .
It seems that if a component is already on before my receiver is up , or switched to that component , that HDMI wo n't negotiate correctly and often requires the whole chain to power off and power back on.Not that it prevents the piracy that HDMI exists solely to prevent.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Due to the enforced end-to-end DRM nature of HDMI, switching components can be a pain in the ass.
I've had no end of trouble getting HDMI switching correct.
It seems that if a component is already on before my receiver is up, or switched to that component, that HDMI won't negotiate correctly and often requires the whole chain to power off and power back on.Not that it prevents the piracy that HDMI exists solely to prevent...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203598</id>
	<title>Confused</title>
	<author>Uranium-238</author>
	<datestamp>1266571980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm confused, I mean obviously this is bad, but what exactly will it mean? As far as I can tell after having read the article and the AACS page on WP, all I can say fo certain is that this means we will have to use HDMI cables connectors etc etc or do it illegally via SD or other. So could someone explain this to me a little better?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm confused , I mean obviously this is bad , but what exactly will it mean ?
As far as I can tell after having read the article and the AACS page on WP , all I can say fo certain is that this means we will have to use HDMI cables connectors etc etc or do it illegally via SD or other .
So could someone explain this to me a little better ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm confused, I mean obviously this is bad, but what exactly will it mean?
As far as I can tell after having read the article and the AACS page on WP, all I can say fo certain is that this means we will have to use HDMI cables connectors etc etc or do it illegally via SD or other.
So could someone explain this to me a little better?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203164</id>
	<title>Yes, Just like the last few times.</title>
	<author>bferlin</author>
	<datestamp>1266570480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I seem to remember the same argument with Region Codes and DIVX.  People voted with the wallet last time, why would this time be any different?</p><p>Even if they do get their way, all they will do is create a cottage industry of security-defeating technologies.  And like always, the real pirates who make tons of money selling counterfeits will find ways around it.</p><p>It's the actual consumer that can't watch that latest DVD because of DRM that doesn't quite work right that get screwed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I seem to remember the same argument with Region Codes and DIVX .
People voted with the wallet last time , why would this time be any different ? Even if they do get their way , all they will do is create a cottage industry of security-defeating technologies .
And like always , the real pirates who make tons of money selling counterfeits will find ways around it.It 's the actual consumer that ca n't watch that latest DVD because of DRM that does n't quite work right that get screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seem to remember the same argument with Region Codes and DIVX.
People voted with the wallet last time, why would this time be any different?Even if they do get their way, all they will do is create a cottage industry of security-defeating technologies.
And like always, the real pirates who make tons of money selling counterfeits will find ways around it.It's the actual consumer that can't watch that latest DVD because of DRM that doesn't quite work right that get screwed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31203500</id>
	<title>Re:Where?</title>
	<author>Late Adopter</author>
	<datestamp>1266571680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The summary does a bad job of describing that this is part of the licensing terms for AACS output devices, i.e. Blu-ray players (worldwide).  This does nothing to change what inputs/outputs will be available on TVs or DVD players, even from the same manufacturers.
<br> <br>
From TFA:<p><div class="quote"><p>2.2.2.1 Analog Sunset &ndash; 2010. With the exception of Existing Models, any Licensed Player manufactured after December 31, 2010 shall limit analog video outputs for Decrypted AACS Content to SD Interlace Modes [composite video, s-video, 480i component video and 576i video] only.</p></div></div>
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<tokenext>The summary does a bad job of describing that this is part of the licensing terms for AACS output devices , i.e .
Blu-ray players ( worldwide ) .
This does nothing to change what inputs/outputs will be available on TVs or DVD players , even from the same manufacturers .
From TFA : 2.2.2.1 Analog Sunset    2010 .
With the exception of Existing Models , any Licensed Player manufactured after December 31 , 2010 shall limit analog video outputs for Decrypted AACS Content to SD Interlace Modes [ composite video , s-video , 480i component video and 576i video ] only .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary does a bad job of describing that this is part of the licensing terms for AACS output devices, i.e.
Blu-ray players (worldwide).
This does nothing to change what inputs/outputs will be available on TVs or DVD players, even from the same manufacturers.
From TFA:2.2.2.1 Analog Sunset – 2010.
With the exception of Existing Models, any Licensed Player manufactured after December 31, 2010 shall limit analog video outputs for Decrypted AACS Content to SD Interlace Modes [composite video, s-video, 480i component video and 576i video] only.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_1936209.31207882</id>
	<title>to quote Mark Twain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266601620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"History does not repeat itself, but it often rhymes."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" History does not repeat itself , but it often rhymes .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"History does not repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
"</sentencetext>
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