<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_18_2253224</id>
	<title>IOC Claims Olympian Lindsey Vonn's Name As Intellectual Property</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1266491520000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>gehrehmee writes <i>"As usual, the International Olympic Committee is coming down on hard on people mentioning things related to the Olympics without permission. This time it's <a href="http://www.uvexsports.com/">UVEX</a> sporting supplies, which sponsors <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey\_Vonn">Olympic skier Lindsey Vonn</a>. Without explaination, their front page was today updated to include a tongue-in-cheek poem about UVEX's interaction with the IOC. Can the IOC really claim an Olypmian's name as their own intellectual property?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>gehrehmee writes " As usual , the International Olympic Committee is coming down on hard on people mentioning things related to the Olympics without permission .
This time it 's UVEX sporting supplies , which sponsors Olympic skier Lindsey Vonn .
Without explaination , their front page was today updated to include a tongue-in-cheek poem about UVEX 's interaction with the IOC .
Can the IOC really claim an Olypmian 's name as their own intellectual property ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>gehrehmee writes "As usual, the International Olympic Committee is coming down on hard on people mentioning things related to the Olympics without permission.
This time it's UVEX sporting supplies, which sponsors Olympic skier Lindsey Vonn.
Without explaination, their front page was today updated to include a tongue-in-cheek poem about UVEX's interaction with the IOC.
Can the IOC really claim an Olypmian's name as their own intellectual property?
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195110</id>
	<title>Dear IOC</title>
	<author>uvajed\_ekil</author>
	<datestamp>1266509220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are ridiculous, and have worked so hard to corrupt the very spirit of the once-wonderful games that you oversee (as if so many other decisions, like holding the games in China, did not do this well enough). So, take this, and you will NOT receive any royalties:
<br>IOC IOC<br>
Olympic Games! Olympic Games! Olympic Games! Olympic Games! Olympic Games!<br>
IOC IOC!!!!<br>
Olympic Games! Olympic Games! Olympic Games!<br>
You suck. Aside from hockey, the families of the athletes, and old people watching figure skating for the music, no one gives a damn about the Winter Olympics(tm) anyway. You can't carry the World Cup's jock (that's an athletic supporter device, slashdotters). By holding your games (yes games, not sports, mostly) the same year as the World Cup, you have the second most important international athletic tournament of the year, meaning you probably shouldn't even bother. Way to go IOC!<br> <br>
No disrespect to Vancouver, an interesting and wonderfully eclectic city, or any other previous or future hosts. I'm sorry for the mockery you endure and the outrageous sums of money you spend in hopes of experiencing something in the same class as the real olympics. Your children will remember it far into the future, when they are living in the shoddy public housing that was built to house foreigners for two weeks instead of providing for good educations that might prevent them from needing such a thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are ridiculous , and have worked so hard to corrupt the very spirit of the once-wonderful games that you oversee ( as if so many other decisions , like holding the games in China , did not do this well enough ) .
So , take this , and you will NOT receive any royalties : IOC IOC Olympic Games !
Olympic Games !
Olympic Games !
Olympic Games !
Olympic Games !
IOC IOC ! ! ! !
Olympic Games !
Olympic Games !
Olympic Games !
You suck .
Aside from hockey , the families of the athletes , and old people watching figure skating for the music , no one gives a damn about the Winter Olympics ( tm ) anyway .
You ca n't carry the World Cup 's jock ( that 's an athletic supporter device , slashdotters ) .
By holding your games ( yes games , not sports , mostly ) the same year as the World Cup , you have the second most important international athletic tournament of the year , meaning you probably should n't even bother .
Way to go IOC !
No disrespect to Vancouver , an interesting and wonderfully eclectic city , or any other previous or future hosts .
I 'm sorry for the mockery you endure and the outrageous sums of money you spend in hopes of experiencing something in the same class as the real olympics .
Your children will remember it far into the future , when they are living in the shoddy public housing that was built to house foreigners for two weeks instead of providing for good educations that might prevent them from needing such a thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are ridiculous, and have worked so hard to corrupt the very spirit of the once-wonderful games that you oversee (as if so many other decisions, like holding the games in China, did not do this well enough).
So, take this, and you will NOT receive any royalties:
IOC IOC
Olympic Games!
Olympic Games!
Olympic Games!
Olympic Games!
Olympic Games!
IOC IOC!!!!
Olympic Games!
Olympic Games!
Olympic Games!
You suck.
Aside from hockey, the families of the athletes, and old people watching figure skating for the music, no one gives a damn about the Winter Olympics(tm) anyway.
You can't carry the World Cup's jock (that's an athletic supporter device, slashdotters).
By holding your games (yes games, not sports, mostly) the same year as the World Cup, you have the second most important international athletic tournament of the year, meaning you probably shouldn't even bother.
Way to go IOC!
No disrespect to Vancouver, an interesting and wonderfully eclectic city, or any other previous or future hosts.
I'm sorry for the mockery you endure and the outrageous sums of money you spend in hopes of experiencing something in the same class as the real olympics.
Your children will remember it far into the future, when they are living in the shoddy public housing that was built to house foreigners for two weeks instead of providing for good educations that might prevent them from needing such a thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193548</id>
	<title>No One Can Own Your Name</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266499200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No frakin' way.  Unleash the lawyer dogs.  Only when used as stated above "Olympian Lindsay Vonn".  They can NOT own facts.  So stating the "Lindsay Vonn, Gold Metal Winner" can not be OWNED... it is a fact known to the world.  Screw the IOC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No frakin ' way .
Unleash the lawyer dogs .
Only when used as stated above " Olympian Lindsay Vonn " .
They can NOT own facts .
So stating the " Lindsay Vonn , Gold Metal Winner " can not be OWNED... it is a fact known to the world .
Screw the IOC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No frakin' way.
Unleash the lawyer dogs.
Only when used as stated above "Olympian Lindsay Vonn".
They can NOT own facts.
So stating the "Lindsay Vonn, Gold Metal Winner" can not be OWNED... it is a fact known to the world.
Screw the IOC.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192910</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266495960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would try to refute your claims using quotes from the article, BUT THERE ISN'T ONE</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would try to refute your claims using quotes from the article , BUT THERE IS N'T ONE</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would try to refute your claims using quotes from the article, BUT THERE ISN'T ONE</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31207762</id>
	<title>Re:As an olympian AND slashdot reader...</title>
	<author>PMuse</author>
	<datestamp>1266600180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Analyzing this from an IP standpoint seems beside the point.  According to what UVEX posted, the IOC told UVEX to take down the content or they would discipline Vonn under Rule 41, paragraph 3 of the Olympic Charter.  For instance, the IOC might declare Vonn ineligible to compete.</p><p>It sounds like it's not about whether the IOC has IP rights in a U.S. court against UVEX.  It's about what the IOC can do to prevent Vonn from competing unless she gets her sponsors to follow the IOC rules.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Analyzing this from an IP standpoint seems beside the point .
According to what UVEX posted , the IOC told UVEX to take down the content or they would discipline Vonn under Rule 41 , paragraph 3 of the Olympic Charter .
For instance , the IOC might declare Vonn ineligible to compete.It sounds like it 's not about whether the IOC has IP rights in a U.S. court against UVEX .
It 's about what the IOC can do to prevent Vonn from competing unless she gets her sponsors to follow the IOC rules .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Analyzing this from an IP standpoint seems beside the point.
According to what UVEX posted, the IOC told UVEX to take down the content or they would discipline Vonn under Rule 41, paragraph 3 of the Olympic Charter.
For instance, the IOC might declare Vonn ineligible to compete.It sounds like it's not about whether the IOC has IP rights in a U.S. court against UVEX.
It's about what the IOC can do to prevent Vonn from competing unless she gets her sponsors to follow the IOC rules.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194060</id>
	<title>Never was idealistic</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1266502500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Olympic ideal is that if you're 0.02 seconds slower than someone else you're worthless. When's the last time you recalled the name of someone who came 5th at a non-current Olympic event. Stuff that for a joke. That ain't something I'm teaching my kid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Olympic ideal is that if you 're 0.02 seconds slower than someone else you 're worthless .
When 's the last time you recalled the name of someone who came 5th at a non-current Olympic event .
Stuff that for a joke .
That ai n't something I 'm teaching my kid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Olympic ideal is that if you're 0.02 seconds slower than someone else you're worthless.
When's the last time you recalled the name of someone who came 5th at a non-current Olympic event.
Stuff that for a joke.
That ain't something I'm teaching my kid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192918</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193034</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>Sockatume</author>
	<datestamp>1266496500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're not claiming her name as their IP, through copyright or anything else. They've told this skeezy gear company that they can't start using an olympiad's name to sell their crappy products just because that olympiad happens to use their products.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're not claiming her name as their IP , through copyright or anything else .
They 've told this skeezy gear company that they ca n't start using an olympiad 's name to sell their crappy products just because that olympiad happens to use their products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're not claiming her name as their IP, through copyright or anything else.
They've told this skeezy gear company that they can't start using an olympiad's name to sell their crappy products just because that olympiad happens to use their products.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31197652</id>
	<title>Re:There are three things to consider</title>
	<author>mcvos</author>
	<datestamp>1266582600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>3. Lawyers hate America, so they can claim anything, and also be WRONG. For example, the activist US Supreme Court claims that Corporations are People and have the same rights as Citizens, which no sane citizen agrees with.</p></div><p>I'd expect lawyers to love America for exactly that reason.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3 .
Lawyers hate America , so they can claim anything , and also be WRONG .
For example , the activist US Supreme Court claims that Corporations are People and have the same rights as Citizens , which no sane citizen agrees with.I 'd expect lawyers to love America for exactly that reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3.
Lawyers hate America, so they can claim anything, and also be WRONG.
For example, the activist US Supreme Court claims that Corporations are People and have the same rights as Citizens, which no sane citizen agrees with.I'd expect lawyers to love America for exactly that reason.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193138</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192978</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>ShooterNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1266496260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed, and the only way to challenge their claim is that you need lawyers.  Good, expensive lawyers able to counter the army of lawyers the IOC undoubtedly has on retainer.  Also, you need time...5-10 years for the courts to come to a final, uncontestable decision.</p><p>Nearly all individuals don't have the money or lifespan to do this.  That's why big institutions hold all the cards when you deal with them.  Only if the institution does something truly egregious do you have a chance of getting compensation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , and the only way to challenge their claim is that you need lawyers .
Good , expensive lawyers able to counter the army of lawyers the IOC undoubtedly has on retainer .
Also , you need time...5-10 years for the courts to come to a final , uncontestable decision.Nearly all individuals do n't have the money or lifespan to do this .
That 's why big institutions hold all the cards when you deal with them .
Only if the institution does something truly egregious do you have a chance of getting compensation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, and the only way to challenge their claim is that you need lawyers.
Good, expensive lawyers able to counter the army of lawyers the IOC undoubtedly has on retainer.
Also, you need time...5-10 years for the courts to come to a final, uncontestable decision.Nearly all individuals don't have the money or lifespan to do this.
That's why big institutions hold all the cards when you deal with them.
Only if the institution does something truly egregious do you have a chance of getting compensation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193318</id>
	<title>What you say now?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266497880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't anyone know how to construct a sentence around here anymore, or spell for that matter?  It is becoming painful to read some of these headlines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't anyone know how to construct a sentence around here anymore , or spell for that matter ?
It is becoming painful to read some of these headlines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't anyone know how to construct a sentence around here anymore, or spell for that matter?
It is becoming painful to read some of these headlines.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194172</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>mhajicek</author>
	<datestamp>1266503280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny. I'll have to grab a kleenex to wipe off the xeroxes on my desk after that one.  Good thing I was only drinking water and not a coke at the time (of any brand).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny .
I 'll have to grab a kleenex to wipe off the xeroxes on my desk after that one .
Good thing I was only drinking water and not a coke at the time ( of any brand ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny.
I'll have to grab a kleenex to wipe off the xeroxes on my desk after that one.
Good thing I was only drinking water and not a coke at the time (of any brand).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194732</id>
	<title>Same story on ESPN.com</title>
	<author>TPJ-Basin</author>
	<datestamp>1266506580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://espn.go.com/action/news/story?id=4921916" title="go.com" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/action/news/story?id=4921916</a> [go.com]

"....Rule 41 in the International Olympic Committee's charter, the so-called "Blackout Rule," which bans competitors, coaches, trainers and officials participating in the Olympics from using their name or image for advertising during the Games. Only those whose sponsors pony up a substantial sum to be an official Olympic sponsor receive an exemption from the IOC's executive board."</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //espn.go.com/action/news/story ? id = 4921916 [ go.com ] " ....Rule 41 in the International Olympic Committee 's charter , the so-called " Blackout Rule , " which bans competitors , coaches , trainers and officials participating in the Olympics from using their name or image for advertising during the Games .
Only those whose sponsors pony up a substantial sum to be an official Olympic sponsor receive an exemption from the IOC 's executive board .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://espn.go.com/action/news/story?id=4921916 [go.com]

"....Rule 41 in the International Olympic Committee's charter, the so-called "Blackout Rule," which bans competitors, coaches, trainers and officials participating in the Olympics from using their name or image for advertising during the Games.
Only those whose sponsors pony up a substantial sum to be an official Olympic sponsor receive an exemption from the IOC's executive board.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31198050</id>
	<title>Re:You're not far off the truth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266587400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"stiffing local taxpayers with the bills"</p><p>"...altar of the free market, you've got to admire their ruthlessly perfect exploitation of it"</p><p>As you yourself have evinced, it's not a "free-market". Or perhaps you're one of the many who're confused about what a "free-market" is actually supposed to be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" stiffing local taxpayers with the bills " " ...altar of the free market , you 've got to admire their ruthlessly perfect exploitation of it " As you yourself have evinced , it 's not a " free-market " .
Or perhaps you 're one of the many who 're confused about what a " free-market " is actually supposed to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"stiffing local taxpayers with the bills""...altar of the free market, you've got to admire their ruthlessly perfect exploitation of it"As you yourself have evinced, it's not a "free-market".
Or perhaps you're one of the many who're confused about what a "free-market" is actually supposed to be.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193308</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266497820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm guessing you meant "vicious."  Unless you're claiming that the Olympics have a high internal friction which resists deformation through shear or extensional stresses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing you meant " vicious .
" Unless you 're claiming that the Olympics have a high internal friction which resists deformation through shear or extensional stresses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing you meant "vicious.
"  Unless you're claiming that the Olympics have a high internal friction which resists deformation through shear or extensional stresses.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192918</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194134</id>
	<title>Precedence?</title>
	<author>FrozenGeek</author>
	<datestamp>1266503040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, assuming that the IOC can require competitors to - temporarily - sign over their names as IP, what happens if the athlete already has a contract with a third party?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , assuming that the IOC can require competitors to - temporarily - sign over their names as IP , what happens if the athlete already has a contract with a third party ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, assuming that the IOC can require competitors to - temporarily - sign over their names as IP, what happens if the athlete already has a contract with a third party?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31197440</id>
	<title>How many other people are called Lindsay Vonn?</title>
	<author>Chrisq</author>
	<datestamp>1266580200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How many other people are called Lindsay Vonn? Is the IOC saying they need permission to ue their own names</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many other people are called Lindsay Vonn ?
Is the IOC saying they need permission to ue their own names</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many other people are called Lindsay Vonn?
Is the IOC saying they need permission to ue their own names</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195230</id>
	<title>The Breakfast of Olympians</title>
	<author>foo12</author>
	<datestamp>1266510120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work for a prepress company whose major client is known for putting athletes on orange-colored cereal boxes. Lindsey Vonn is almost certain to appear on one of these boxes as well several other American medalists. Basically our understanding of the rule is that the athletes are free to sign agreements independent of their status as Olympic athletes but they cannot, under any circumstances, appear in marketing deals as an <i>Olympic</i> athlete without the IOC being party to the agreement.</p><p>Orange-colored cereal box distributor has been doing this for years without incident.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for a prepress company whose major client is known for putting athletes on orange-colored cereal boxes .
Lindsey Vonn is almost certain to appear on one of these boxes as well several other American medalists .
Basically our understanding of the rule is that the athletes are free to sign agreements independent of their status as Olympic athletes but they can not , under any circumstances , appear in marketing deals as an Olympic athlete without the IOC being party to the agreement.Orange-colored cereal box distributor has been doing this for years without incident .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for a prepress company whose major client is known for putting athletes on orange-colored cereal boxes.
Lindsey Vonn is almost certain to appear on one of these boxes as well several other American medalists.
Basically our understanding of the rule is that the athletes are free to sign agreements independent of their status as Olympic athletes but they cannot, under any circumstances, appear in marketing deals as an Olympic athlete without the IOC being party to the agreement.Orange-colored cereal box distributor has been doing this for years without incident.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193566</id>
	<title>Re:In a related story...</title>
	<author>unhooked</author>
	<datestamp>1266499260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty damn close, winter 2010 vancouver olympic winter games. The IOC is just about as evil as it get's.</p><p>On a side note - Tolkien was wrong.<br>Five rings to rule them all, five rings to find them,<br>Five rings to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty damn close , winter 2010 vancouver olympic winter games .
The IOC is just about as evil as it get 's.On a side note - Tolkien was wrong.Five rings to rule them all , five rings to find them,Five rings to bring them all and in the darkness bind them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty damn close, winter 2010 vancouver olympic winter games.
The IOC is just about as evil as it get's.On a side note - Tolkien was wrong.Five rings to rule them all, five rings to find them,Five rings to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192878</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193766</id>
	<title>Re:There are three things to consider</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266500460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, what would the residents of Olympia, WA think about that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , what would the residents of Olympia , WA think about that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, what would the residents of Olympia, WA think about that?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193218</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193220</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>jra</author>
	<datestamp>1266497280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Extremely viscous.</p><p>Not much chance of you slipping through the cracks at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Extremely viscous.Not much chance of you slipping through the cracks at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Extremely viscous.Not much chance of you slipping through the cracks at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193860</id>
	<title>Re:There are three things to consider</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266501120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty sure they do.  Maybe if you're gonna think of the paper, you might see what went on with the paper and the USOC: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010007020\_olympian06m.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty sure they do .
Maybe if you 're gon na think of the paper , you might see what went on with the paper and the USOC : http : //seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010007020 \ _olympian06m.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty sure they do.
Maybe if you're gonna think of the paper, you might see what went on with the paper and the USOC: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010007020\_olympian06m.html</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193056</id>
	<title>They may make great ski gear...</title>
	<author>ClickOnThis</author>
	<datestamp>1266496560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...but they sure make lousy poetry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...but they sure make lousy poetry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but they sure make lousy poetry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193800</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266500640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article that was removed is available <a href="http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:http\%3A//www.uvexsports.com/2009/11/good-stuff-on-universalsportscom.html" title="74.125.95.132">here</a> [74.125.95.132].</p><p>The mention of Ms. Vonn's name is in the following sentence:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>They just posted <a href="http://www.universalsports.com/news/article/newsid=369156.html#vonn+continues+historic+quest" title="universalsports.com">a good rundown of the Woman's field</a> [universalsports.com] disguised as story about the rivalry between top skiers (and best friends!) Lindsey Vonn and Maria Reisch.</p></div><p>That's it.  No claim of her endorsing anything, just a summary of an article on another website.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The article that was removed is available here [ 74.125.95.132 ] .The mention of Ms. Vonn 's name is in the following sentence : They just posted a good rundown of the Woman 's field [ universalsports.com ] disguised as story about the rivalry between top skiers ( and best friends !
) Lindsey Vonn and Maria Reisch.That 's it .
No claim of her endorsing anything , just a summary of an article on another website .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article that was removed is available here [74.125.95.132].The mention of Ms. Vonn's name is in the following sentence:They just posted a good rundown of the Woman's field [universalsports.com] disguised as story about the rivalry between top skiers (and best friends!
) Lindsey Vonn and Maria Reisch.That's it.
No claim of her endorsing anything, just a summary of an article on another website.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193032</id>
	<title>ISO and IOC are similar in my view</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266496440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Once respected now just trashed.  ISO was destroyed in my eyes by the whole Microsoft debacle.  (some would say long before that, but I knew nothing of ISO's procedures or problems before Microsoft's involvement.)  The IOC's pure greed and nonsense over the past few years had convinced me that the Olympics just ain't cool any more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Once respected now just trashed .
ISO was destroyed in my eyes by the whole Microsoft debacle .
( some would say long before that , but I knew nothing of ISO 's procedures or problems before Microsoft 's involvement .
) The IOC 's pure greed and nonsense over the past few years had convinced me that the Olympics just ai n't cool any more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once respected now just trashed.
ISO was destroyed in my eyes by the whole Microsoft debacle.
(some would say long before that, but I knew nothing of ISO's procedures or problems before Microsoft's involvement.
)  The IOC's pure greed and nonsense over the past few years had convinced me that the Olympics just ain't cool any more.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194834</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266507180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But they are claiming that they have the right to her name, because they are the ones saying that this company is not allowed to use her name and image. It would be a different story if Ms. Vonn herself had issued the take down notice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But they are claiming that they have the right to her name , because they are the ones saying that this company is not allowed to use her name and image .
It would be a different story if Ms. Vonn herself had issued the take down notice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But they are claiming that they have the right to her name, because they are the ones saying that this company is not allowed to use her name and image.
It would be a different story if Ms. Vonn herself had issued the take down notice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192856</id>
	<title>Tons more complaints this time</title>
	<author>get quad</author>
	<datestamp>1266495720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just add this to the MASSIVE list of failures at this Winter Olympics, namely:

<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35464927/ns/world\_news-vancouver\_winter\_olympics/" title="msn.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35464927/ns/world\_news-vancouver\_winter\_olympics/</a> [msn.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just add this to the MASSIVE list of failures at this Winter Olympics , namely : http : //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35464927/ns/world \ _news-vancouver \ _winter \ _olympics/ [ msn.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just add this to the MASSIVE list of failures at this Winter Olympics, namely:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35464927/ns/world\_news-vancouver\_winter\_olympics/ [msn.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193144</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266496920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It depends upon the contract that the Olympian signed in order to compete in the Olympics. My opinion is that the Olympians have to sign away everything but their first-born in order to be allowed to compete in the Olympics. </i></p><p>Debatable. Even if a contract with such terms exists between the IOC and the athlete, that does not invalidate a pre-existing contract between UVEX and the athlete.</p><p>In fact, the IOC would have a claim against the <b>athlete</b> for signing a contract with the IOC when the <b>athlete</b> didn't have the capacity to do so, having previously signed away some of the rights that the IOC wants to claim.</p><p>But UVEX is in the clear and fully entitled to the terms of their contract with the athlete.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It depends upon the contract that the Olympian signed in order to compete in the Olympics .
My opinion is that the Olympians have to sign away everything but their first-born in order to be allowed to compete in the Olympics .
Debatable. Even if a contract with such terms exists between the IOC and the athlete , that does not invalidate a pre-existing contract between UVEX and the athlete.In fact , the IOC would have a claim against the athlete for signing a contract with the IOC when the athlete did n't have the capacity to do so , having previously signed away some of the rights that the IOC wants to claim.But UVEX is in the clear and fully entitled to the terms of their contract with the athlete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It depends upon the contract that the Olympian signed in order to compete in the Olympics.
My opinion is that the Olympians have to sign away everything but their first-born in order to be allowed to compete in the Olympics.
Debatable. Even if a contract with such terms exists between the IOC and the athlete, that does not invalidate a pre-existing contract between UVEX and the athlete.In fact, the IOC would have a claim against the athlete for signing a contract with the IOC when the athlete didn't have the capacity to do so, having previously signed away some of the rights that the IOC wants to claim.But UVEX is in the clear and fully entitled to the terms of their contract with the athlete.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196290</id>
	<title>Just Say No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266523020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't care how powerful the IOC is, I draw the line when the IOC claims to own her period. Stop the trafficking of women's bodily functions now!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care how powerful the IOC is , I draw the line when the IOC claims to own her period .
Stop the trafficking of women 's bodily functions now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care how powerful the IOC is, I draw the line when the IOC claims to own her period.
Stop the trafficking of women's bodily functions now!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196368</id>
	<title>Re:You're not far off the truth</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1266610560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or how about that <a href="http://www.nationalpost.com/scripts/story.html?id=2529371" title="nationalpost.com">bullshit</a> [nationalpost.com] where they forbade a local shop from selling "bison burgers", because - take it! - McDonalds is an official Olympic sponsor, and, while "burger" is not a trademark, sponsors have <em>full control</em> over any trade terms used for goods sold in Olympic venues - so if they feel there's any sort of "confusion", they can demand a rename - and local authorities will enforce that.</p><p>To be precise, the direct quote from IOC lawyer is "... forbidding certain brands or words that create special associations with our sponsors and their products."</p><p>Oh, it reminds me of something... remember when they kicked people out of events in Athens because they were wearing "wrong" t-shirts - with logos of companies competing with official sponsors - like Pepsi?</p><p>While we're at it, McDonalds and Coca-Cola as two biggest Olympic sponsors? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super\_Size\_Me" title="wikipedia.org">But</a> [wikipedia.org] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism\_of\_Coca-Cola#High\_fructose\_corn\_syrup" title="wikipedia.org">really</a> [wikipedia.org]?</p><p>You don't want to smell the Olympic spirit today. It stinks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or how about that bullshit [ nationalpost.com ] where they forbade a local shop from selling " bison burgers " , because - take it !
- McDonalds is an official Olympic sponsor , and , while " burger " is not a trademark , sponsors have full control over any trade terms used for goods sold in Olympic venues - so if they feel there 's any sort of " confusion " , they can demand a rename - and local authorities will enforce that.To be precise , the direct quote from IOC lawyer is " ... forbidding certain brands or words that create special associations with our sponsors and their products .
" Oh , it reminds me of something... remember when they kicked people out of events in Athens because they were wearing " wrong " t-shirts - with logos of companies competing with official sponsors - like Pepsi ? While we 're at it , McDonalds and Coca-Cola as two biggest Olympic sponsors ?
But [ wikipedia.org ] really [ wikipedia.org ] ? You do n't want to smell the Olympic spirit today .
It stinks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or how about that bullshit [nationalpost.com] where they forbade a local shop from selling "bison burgers", because - take it!
- McDonalds is an official Olympic sponsor, and, while "burger" is not a trademark, sponsors have full control over any trade terms used for goods sold in Olympic venues - so if they feel there's any sort of "confusion", they can demand a rename - and local authorities will enforce that.To be precise, the direct quote from IOC lawyer is "... forbidding certain brands or words that create special associations with our sponsors and their products.
"Oh, it reminds me of something... remember when they kicked people out of events in Athens because they were wearing "wrong" t-shirts - with logos of companies competing with official sponsors - like Pepsi?While we're at it, McDonalds and Coca-Cola as two biggest Olympic sponsors?
But [wikipedia.org] really [wikipedia.org]?You don't want to smell the Olympic spirit today.
It stinks.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192992</id>
	<title>Olympics who?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266496320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, I haven't watched any of this years or the last olympics. Total waste of time. Home Shopping Channel is less boring.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , I have n't watched any of this years or the last olympics .
Total waste of time .
Home Shopping Channel is less boring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, I haven't watched any of this years or the last olympics.
Total waste of time.
Home Shopping Channel is less boring.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193588</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266499380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>any athlete that signs his or her rights to use their name is a spineless lemming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>any athlete that signs his or her rights to use their name is a spineless lemming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>any athlete that signs his or her rights to use their name is a spineless lemming.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193260</id>
	<title>Re:There are three things to consider</title>
	<author>Trailer Trash</author>
	<datestamp>1266497520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They hold an IP right to the use of Olympian, so the phrase Olympian Lindsay Vonn is a use of a trademark.</p></div></blockquote><p>So?  I drank a bottle of Coca Cola for lunch.  Coca Cola is a registered trademark of The Coca-Cola Company.</p><p>So, um, is Coke going to sue me for using those words?</p><p>No, they cannot.  That's not a protection that a trademark provides.  I simply cannot create a similar product and name it "Coca Cola".</p><p>I can use the words "Olympics", "Olympic Games", and I can call Lindsay Vonn and Olympian.  None of that is an issue.</p><p>I suspect that the lawyer for the Olympics knows this, but they're relying on people not wanting to go to court and deal with it.  That doesn't make it right.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They hold an IP right to the use of Olympian , so the phrase Olympian Lindsay Vonn is a use of a trademark.So ?
I drank a bottle of Coca Cola for lunch .
Coca Cola is a registered trademark of The Coca-Cola Company.So , um , is Coke going to sue me for using those words ? No , they can not .
That 's not a protection that a trademark provides .
I simply can not create a similar product and name it " Coca Cola " .I can use the words " Olympics " , " Olympic Games " , and I can call Lindsay Vonn and Olympian .
None of that is an issue.I suspect that the lawyer for the Olympics knows this , but they 're relying on people not wanting to go to court and deal with it .
That does n't make it right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They hold an IP right to the use of Olympian, so the phrase Olympian Lindsay Vonn is a use of a trademark.So?
I drank a bottle of Coca Cola for lunch.
Coca Cola is a registered trademark of The Coca-Cola Company.So, um, is Coke going to sue me for using those words?No, they cannot.
That's not a protection that a trademark provides.
I simply cannot create a similar product and name it "Coca Cola".I can use the words "Olympics", "Olympic Games", and I can call Lindsay Vonn and Olympian.
None of that is an issue.I suspect that the lawyer for the Olympics knows this, but they're relying on people not wanting to go to court and deal with it.
That doesn't make it right.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193206</id>
	<title>yeah</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266497220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dunno, but I so want to fuck her.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno , but I so want to fuck her .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno, but I so want to fuck her.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193564</id>
	<title>Nothing new under the sun...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266499260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The greek games were always about rich people throwing money around for publicity.</p><p>Look up the history of the classical greek funeral games, which where the spiritual precursor to our Olympics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The greek games were always about rich people throwing money around for publicity.Look up the history of the classical greek funeral games , which where the spiritual precursor to our Olympics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The greek games were always about rich people throwing money around for publicity.Look up the history of the classical greek funeral games, which where the spiritual precursor to our Olympics.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195154</id>
	<title>I'm not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266509520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm stuck in Vancouver right now and I've seen the mayhem and damage firsthand that those greedy fat fucks at the IOC can do. If your city ever gets a chance to to bid on having the olympics, don't. It would be much cheaper to actually pay another state or country to hold them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm stuck in Vancouver right now and I 've seen the mayhem and damage firsthand that those greedy fat fucks at the IOC can do .
If your city ever gets a chance to to bid on having the olympics , do n't .
It would be much cheaper to actually pay another state or country to hold them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm stuck in Vancouver right now and I've seen the mayhem and damage firsthand that those greedy fat fucks at the IOC can do.
If your city ever gets a chance to to bid on having the olympics, don't.
It would be much cheaper to actually pay another state or country to hold them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193618</id>
	<title>official infringement page</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266499560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I assume that UVEX is doing this in order to get more publicity then they would just get from Vonn's name alone. The very act of outing the IOC's request and pasting onto Slashdot has to be greater marketing then simply having her name on their opening page and hoping Google picks up the page change before the Olympic's are over.</p><p>But anyhow. Here is some real information about whether your marketing is (probably) infringing or not: <a href="http://www.vancouver2010.com/more-2010-information/about-vanoc/the-vancouver-2010-brand/protecting-the-brand/business-community/business-community\_88980js.html" title="vancouver2010.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.vancouver2010.com/more-2010-information/about-vanoc/the-vancouver-2010-brand/protecting-the-brand/business-community/business-community\_88980js.html</a> [vancouver2010.com]</p><p>Scroll down to "How does a business promote a non-2010 Winter Games sport sponsorship?" and you will see how to say what you want without tipping off on their infringement scale.</p><p>Still... you probably want to leave as is... now that Slashdot is advertising for you.</p><p>But to answer the poster: "No, the IOC does not hold rights to claim infringement on Lindsey Vonn's name."</p><p>I expect UVEX would know this. But in reality, their current setup is better marketing for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume that UVEX is doing this in order to get more publicity then they would just get from Vonn 's name alone .
The very act of outing the IOC 's request and pasting onto Slashdot has to be greater marketing then simply having her name on their opening page and hoping Google picks up the page change before the Olympic 's are over.But anyhow .
Here is some real information about whether your marketing is ( probably ) infringing or not : http : //www.vancouver2010.com/more-2010-information/about-vanoc/the-vancouver-2010-brand/protecting-the-brand/business-community/business-community \ _88980js.html [ vancouver2010.com ] Scroll down to " How does a business promote a non-2010 Winter Games sport sponsorship ?
" and you will see how to say what you want without tipping off on their infringement scale.Still... you probably want to leave as is... now that Slashdot is advertising for you.But to answer the poster : " No , the IOC does not hold rights to claim infringement on Lindsey Vonn 's name .
" I expect UVEX would know this .
But in reality , their current setup is better marketing for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume that UVEX is doing this in order to get more publicity then they would just get from Vonn's name alone.
The very act of outing the IOC's request and pasting onto Slashdot has to be greater marketing then simply having her name on their opening page and hoping Google picks up the page change before the Olympic's are over.But anyhow.
Here is some real information about whether your marketing is (probably) infringing or not: http://www.vancouver2010.com/more-2010-information/about-vanoc/the-vancouver-2010-brand/protecting-the-brand/business-community/business-community\_88980js.html [vancouver2010.com]Scroll down to "How does a business promote a non-2010 Winter Games sport sponsorship?
" and you will see how to say what you want without tipping off on their infringement scale.Still... you probably want to leave as is... now that Slashdot is advertising for you.But to answer the poster: "No, the IOC does not hold rights to claim infringement on Lindsey Vonn's name.
"I expect UVEX would know this.
But in reality, their current setup is better marketing for them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31199698</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266597300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See? The trick to preventing brand dilution is to name your product something that's already a verb!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See ?
The trick to preventing brand dilution is to name your product something that 's already a verb !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See?
The trick to preventing brand dilution is to name your product something that's already a verb!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193740</id>
	<title>You're not far off the truth</title>
	<author>optimus2861</author>
	<datestamp>1266500340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>VANOC trademarked the line, "With Glowing Hearts", which comes directly out of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh\_Canada#Trademarking\_and\_the\_Vancouver\_2010\_Olympics" title="wikipedia.org">Canada's national anthem</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><p>
Today's Olympics are all about whoring themselves out to corporate sponsors, being absolute dicks to anyone who isn't one, and stiffing local taxpayers with the bills for years if not decades on end. If you're the type who worships at the altar of the free market, you've got to admire their ruthlessly perfect exploitation of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>VANOC trademarked the line , " With Glowing Hearts " , which comes directly out of Canada 's national anthem [ wikipedia.org ] .
Today 's Olympics are all about whoring themselves out to corporate sponsors , being absolute dicks to anyone who is n't one , and stiffing local taxpayers with the bills for years if not decades on end .
If you 're the type who worships at the altar of the free market , you 've got to admire their ruthlessly perfect exploitation of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VANOC trademarked the line, "With Glowing Hearts", which comes directly out of Canada's national anthem [wikipedia.org].
Today's Olympics are all about whoring themselves out to corporate sponsors, being absolute dicks to anyone who isn't one, and stiffing local taxpayers with the bills for years if not decades on end.
If you're the type who worships at the altar of the free market, you've got to admire their ruthlessly perfect exploitation of it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192878</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195962</id>
	<title>Money...</title>
	<author>joocemann</author>
	<datestamp>1266518160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... and all the silly, heinous, disgusting, awkward, hateful, tragic and horrifying ways that it finds its way to distort human interaction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... and all the silly , heinous , disgusting , awkward , hateful , tragic and horrifying ways that it finds its way to distort human interaction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... and all the silly, heinous, disgusting, awkward, hateful, tragic and horrifying ways that it finds its way to distort human interaction.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196498</id>
	<title>Re:Tons more complaints this time</title>
	<author>BikeHelmet</author>
	<datestamp>1266612180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Canadian law does not apply to the IOC.</p><p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/sports/amateur/story/2009/04/22/sp-skijumping-olympic-women.html" title="www.cbc.ca">http://www.cbc.ca/sports/amateur/story/2009/04/22/sp-skijumping-olympic-women.html</a> [www.cbc.ca]</p><p>Utter bullshit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Canadian law does not apply to the IOC.http : //www.cbc.ca/sports/amateur/story/2009/04/22/sp-skijumping-olympic-women.html [ www.cbc.ca ] Utter bullshit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Canadian law does not apply to the IOC.http://www.cbc.ca/sports/amateur/story/2009/04/22/sp-skijumping-olympic-women.html [www.cbc.ca]Utter bullshit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193822</id>
	<title>Re:There are three things to consider</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266500760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>They claim that corporations have some of the properties of citizens, and that moreover Congress shall make no law restricting free speech or the freedom of the press even if it's corporations speaking or pressing. I kinda like the first amendment so I approve.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They claim that corporations have some of the properties of citizens , and that moreover Congress shall make no law restricting free speech or the freedom of the press even if it 's corporations speaking or pressing .
I kinda like the first amendment so I approve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They claim that corporations have some of the properties of citizens, and that moreover Congress shall make no law restricting free speech or the freedom of the press even if it's corporations speaking or pressing.
I kinda like the first amendment so I approve.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193138</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192948</id>
	<title>Not outside the realm...</title>
	<author>Nexzus</author>
	<datestamp>1266496140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...of possibility. VANOC, the Sponsors, and the IOC have done a number of things that could be considered downright criminal.<br>
&nbsp; - Closing two of the main viaducts in and out of downtown.<br>
&nbsp; - No stopping zones on large stretches of major roads.<br>
&nbsp; - Only accepting Visa or cash at all the venues.<br>
&nbsp; - Only allowing games related traffic on the road between Vancouver and Whistler during most hours of the day.<br>I tried to create a rumour that Bell, another major Olympic sponsor, was forcing the shutdown of all non-Bell cell sites around the venues, but I don't think people understood the implications of that if it were to happen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...of possibility .
VANOC , the Sponsors , and the IOC have done a number of things that could be considered downright criminal .
  - Closing two of the main viaducts in and out of downtown .
  - No stopping zones on large stretches of major roads .
  - Only accepting Visa or cash at all the venues .
  - Only allowing games related traffic on the road between Vancouver and Whistler during most hours of the day.I tried to create a rumour that Bell , another major Olympic sponsor , was forcing the shutdown of all non-Bell cell sites around the venues , but I do n't think people understood the implications of that if it were to happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...of possibility.
VANOC, the Sponsors, and the IOC have done a number of things that could be considered downright criminal.
  - Closing two of the main viaducts in and out of downtown.
  - No stopping zones on large stretches of major roads.
  - Only accepting Visa or cash at all the venues.
  - Only allowing games related traffic on the road between Vancouver and Whistler during most hours of the day.I tried to create a rumour that Bell, another major Olympic sponsor, was forcing the shutdown of all non-Bell cell sites around the venues, but I don't think people understood the implications of that if it were to happen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193176</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>zappepcs</author>
	<datestamp>1266497100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why restore it now, a good slashdotting worth of free advertisement is probably more than they hoped for... or maybe expected. Either way, I'm sure they are happy with their site count today.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why restore it now , a good slashdotting worth of free advertisement is probably more than they hoped for... or maybe expected .
Either way , I 'm sure they are happy with their site count today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why restore it now, a good slashdotting worth of free advertisement is probably more than they hoped for... or maybe expected.
Either way, I'm sure they are happy with their site count today.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192878</id>
	<title>In a related story...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266495840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The IOC has claimed the term 'CANADA' as their exclusive intellectual property</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The IOC has claimed the term 'CANADA ' as their exclusive intellectual property</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The IOC has claimed the term 'CANADA' as their exclusive intellectual property</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31198862</id>
	<title>Re:As an olympian AND slashdot reader...</title>
	<author>PybusJ</author>
	<datestamp>1266593220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If the company is using it without her knowledge, then good on the IOC. Because that means the athlete is being taken advantage of by the company. If the company wants to be associated with the athlete, they should pay!<br>Most olympians have to work part time (with large amounts of unpaid holidays), and their sporting pursuit costs them MAJOR money to do. So they NEED every dollar they can get (yes some olympians are cashed up but they are a minority).</p></div><p>I don't understand. Either Lindsay Vonn has a sponsorship deal with Uvex, in which case they are helping fund her participation in the sport.  Or they have no sponsorship deal, and Lindsay (or her representatives) went out and brought Uvex products of her own free will (presumable due to their quality).  That actually seems like a better endorsement to me, and I can see no moral reason why Uvex  should be banned from mentioning the fact a successful athlete has chosen their kit, that's not taking advantage.  If Ms Vonn needs the extra funds (I expect she's one of those not in the struggling category) she could choose to ask for a sponsorship deal or switch to a brand prepared to sponsor her.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the company is using it without her knowledge , then good on the IOC .
Because that means the athlete is being taken advantage of by the company .
If the company wants to be associated with the athlete , they should pay ! Most olympians have to work part time ( with large amounts of unpaid holidays ) , and their sporting pursuit costs them MAJOR money to do .
So they NEED every dollar they can get ( yes some olympians are cashed up but they are a minority ) .I do n't understand .
Either Lindsay Vonn has a sponsorship deal with Uvex , in which case they are helping fund her participation in the sport .
Or they have no sponsorship deal , and Lindsay ( or her representatives ) went out and brought Uvex products of her own free will ( presumable due to their quality ) .
That actually seems like a better endorsement to me , and I can see no moral reason why Uvex should be banned from mentioning the fact a successful athlete has chosen their kit , that 's not taking advantage .
If Ms Vonn needs the extra funds ( I expect she 's one of those not in the struggling category ) she could choose to ask for a sponsorship deal or switch to a brand prepared to sponsor her .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the company is using it without her knowledge, then good on the IOC.
Because that means the athlete is being taken advantage of by the company.
If the company wants to be associated with the athlete, they should pay!Most olympians have to work part time (with large amounts of unpaid holidays), and their sporting pursuit costs them MAJOR money to do.
So they NEED every dollar they can get (yes some olympians are cashed up but they are a minority).I don't understand.
Either Lindsay Vonn has a sponsorship deal with Uvex, in which case they are helping fund her participation in the sport.
Or they have no sponsorship deal, and Lindsay (or her representatives) went out and brought Uvex products of her own free will (presumable due to their quality).
That actually seems like a better endorsement to me, and I can see no moral reason why Uvex  should be banned from mentioning the fact a successful athlete has chosen their kit, that's not taking advantage.
If Ms Vonn needs the extra funds (I expect she's one of those not in the struggling category) she could choose to ask for a sponsorship deal or switch to a brand prepared to sponsor her.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193166</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>Bob9113</author>
	<datestamp>1266497040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes.</i></p><p>Viscous? Yes, those marketing sleazebags certainly are an oily bunch.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>I've been flipping over to NBC every once in a while to see what they're showing. Most of the time I hit either a commercial or reporters sitting at a desk talking about events. My best guess is that their contract has limitations on the amount of actual event time they can show -- either a fixed cap or some kind of dollars per minute arrangement.</p><p>Which is to say; I share your disillusionment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes.Viscous ?
Yes , those marketing sleazebags certainly are an oily bunch .
: ) I 've been flipping over to NBC every once in a while to see what they 're showing .
Most of the time I hit either a commercial or reporters sitting at a desk talking about events .
My best guess is that their contract has limitations on the amount of actual event time they can show -- either a fixed cap or some kind of dollars per minute arrangement.Which is to say ; I share your disillusionment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes.Viscous?
Yes, those marketing sleazebags certainly are an oily bunch.
:)I've been flipping over to NBC every once in a while to see what they're showing.
Most of the time I hit either a commercial or reporters sitting at a desk talking about events.
My best guess is that their contract has limitations on the amount of actual event time they can show -- either a fixed cap or some kind of dollars per minute arrangement.Which is to say; I share your disillusionment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196636</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>sulimma</author>
	<datestamp>1266571260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do not think that signing such a contract would effect third parties much.<br>In many cases a third party does have no right to use your name to begin with, but there also are many situation where you yourself cannot prevent the public use of your name and clearly signing a contract with anyone cannot change this. The IOC hardly can gain more right over your name from the contract than you had yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not think that signing such a contract would effect third parties much.In many cases a third party does have no right to use your name to begin with , but there also are many situation where you yourself can not prevent the public use of your name and clearly signing a contract with anyone can not change this .
The IOC hardly can gain more right over your name from the contract than you had yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not think that signing such a contract would effect third parties much.In many cases a third party does have no right to use your name to begin with, but there also are many situation where you yourself cannot prevent the public use of your name and clearly signing a contract with anyone cannot change this.
The IOC hardly can gain more right over your name from the contract than you had yourself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195028</id>
	<title>Rape and Murder?</title>
	<author>jafiwam</author>
	<datestamp>1266508560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lindsey Vonn raped and murdered a young girl in 1990.  She hasn't denied it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lindsey Vonn raped and murdered a young girl in 1990 .
She has n't denied it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lindsey Vonn raped and murdered a young girl in 1990.
She hasn't denied it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196252</id>
	<title>Boycott</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266522480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The simple fact this story is even out makes me want to boycott anything "Olympic" and especially Olympic with Lindsey Vonn.</p><p>So take that IOC Intellectual Propertards..</p><p>To hell with your fucking corporate nonsense you greedy fucking pricks</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The simple fact this story is even out makes me want to boycott anything " Olympic " and especially Olympic with Lindsey Vonn.So take that IOC Intellectual Propertards..To hell with your fucking corporate nonsense you greedy fucking pricks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The simple fact this story is even out makes me want to boycott anything "Olympic" and especially Olympic with Lindsey Vonn.So take that IOC Intellectual Propertards..To hell with your fucking corporate nonsense you greedy fucking pricks</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196612</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266570840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Photoshop trademark must never be used as a common verb or as a noun...</p></div><p>They've been doing it for several years...</p><p>http://www.adobe.com/misc/trade.html#section-4</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Photoshop trademark must never be used as a common verb or as a noun...They 've been doing it for several years...http : //www.adobe.com/misc/trade.html # section-4</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Photoshop trademark must never be used as a common verb or as a noun...They've been doing it for several years...http://www.adobe.com/misc/trade.html#section-4
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193960</id>
	<title>Coming down on hard on</title>
	<author>djfuq</author>
	<datestamp>1266501840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those whacky IOC ppl coming down all over those "hard on"s -   how sexy!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those whacky IOC ppl coming down all over those " hard on " s - how sexy !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those whacky IOC ppl coming down all over those "hard on"s -   how sexy!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195836</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>DriedClexler</author>
	<datestamp>1266516300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, just remember, every story that we let through or pay attention to, is just that much more support for the tightly regimented, controlling parasite that the IOC is.</p><p>Withdraw your support from the untameable hype machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , just remember , every story that we let through or pay attention to , is just that much more support for the tightly regimented , controlling parasite that the IOC is.Withdraw your support from the untameable hype machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, just remember, every story that we let through or pay attention to, is just that much more support for the tightly regimented, controlling parasite that the IOC is.Withdraw your support from the untameable hype machine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192918</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31200378</id>
	<title>Re:No matter who wins...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266600240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I spit in your general direction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I spit in your general direction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I spit in your general direction.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193856</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195086</id>
	<title>Can't stand them</title>
	<author>kitsunewarlock</author>
	<datestamp>1266508980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Olympics killed my favorite card game/RPG franchise (well, its not 100\% dead but its MUCH less popular now than it was).  Legend of the Five Rings was threatened due to the fact the Olympics apparently own any symbol of "multiple interlocking rings", which they had on the backs of all their cards.  As any card player could tell you, forcing all players to play their expensive cards with new backs is a good way to kill your game.  Of course their five rings represented the 5 elements of the ancient Japanese world...and the game had absolutely nothing to do with the Olympics or even Greek history...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Olympics killed my favorite card game/RPG franchise ( well , its not 100 \ % dead but its MUCH less popular now than it was ) .
Legend of the Five Rings was threatened due to the fact the Olympics apparently own any symbol of " multiple interlocking rings " , which they had on the backs of all their cards .
As any card player could tell you , forcing all players to play their expensive cards with new backs is a good way to kill your game .
Of course their five rings represented the 5 elements of the ancient Japanese world...and the game had absolutely nothing to do with the Olympics or even Greek history.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Olympics killed my favorite card game/RPG franchise (well, its not 100\% dead but its MUCH less popular now than it was).
Legend of the Five Rings was threatened due to the fact the Olympics apparently own any symbol of "multiple interlocking rings", which they had on the backs of all their cards.
As any card player could tell you, forcing all players to play their expensive cards with new backs is a good way to kill your game.
Of course their five rings represented the 5 elements of the ancient Japanese world...and the game had absolutely nothing to do with the Olympics or even Greek history...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31199742</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>furby076</author>
	<datestamp>1266597420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I no longer view the Olympics as an idealistic sporting event. I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes.</p></div><p>Except these exploited athletes become retardedly rich if they win.  If they lose the olympic committee couldn't care less about who uses their names, but if they win the olympic committee starts to care.  Look at Apollo ohno (sp) - after the last winter olympics he became a multi-millionaire, got invited to all the exclusive events (as in where hollywood type stars go to) and was living the life.  That's not a bad deal.  In fact, I would love to be exploited in that fashion.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I no longer view the Olympics as an idealistic sporting event .
I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes.Except these exploited athletes become retardedly rich if they win .
If they lose the olympic committee could n't care less about who uses their names , but if they win the olympic committee starts to care .
Look at Apollo ohno ( sp ) - after the last winter olympics he became a multi-millionaire , got invited to all the exclusive events ( as in where hollywood type stars go to ) and was living the life .
That 's not a bad deal .
In fact , I would love to be exploited in that fashion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I no longer view the Olympics as an idealistic sporting event.
I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes.Except these exploited athletes become retardedly rich if they win.
If they lose the olympic committee couldn't care less about who uses their names, but if they win the olympic committee starts to care.
Look at Apollo ohno (sp) - after the last winter olympics he became a multi-millionaire, got invited to all the exclusive events (as in where hollywood type stars go to) and was living the life.
That's not a bad deal.
In fact, I would love to be exploited in that fashion.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192918</id>
	<title>It depends...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266496020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Can the IOC really claim an Olypmian's name as their own intellectual property?</i> <p>.</p><p>

It depends upon the contract that the Olympian signed in order to compete in the Olympics.   My opinion is that the Olympians have to sign away everything but their first-born in order to be allowed to compete in the Olympics.
</p><p>

I no longer view the Olympics as an idealistic sporting event.  I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can the IOC really claim an Olypmian 's name as their own intellectual property ?
. It depends upon the contract that the Olympian signed in order to compete in the Olympics .
My opinion is that the Olympians have to sign away everything but their first-born in order to be allowed to compete in the Olympics .
I no longer view the Olympics as an idealistic sporting event .
I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can the IOC really claim an Olypmian's name as their own intellectual property?
.

It depends upon the contract that the Olympian signed in order to compete in the Olympics.
My opinion is that the Olympians have to sign away everything but their first-born in order to be allowed to compete in the Olympics.
I no longer view the Olympics as an idealistic sporting event.
I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31198474</id>
	<title>What about Lindsey herself?</title>
	<author>X10</author>
	<datestamp>1266591000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Err, isn't the decision on who can use her name or not up to Lindsey Vonn herself? Or do participants in the Olympic games sign a paper in which they transfer their rights and assets and their children to the Olympic comittee?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Err , is n't the decision on who can use her name or not up to Lindsey Vonn herself ?
Or do participants in the Olympic games sign a paper in which they transfer their rights and assets and their children to the Olympic comittee ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Err, isn't the decision on who can use her name or not up to Lindsey Vonn herself?
Or do participants in the Olympic games sign a paper in which they transfer their rights and assets and their children to the Olympic comittee?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195116</id>
	<title>Re:In a related story...</title>
	<author>istartedi</author>
	<datestamp>1266509280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only Canada Wet though.  Canada Dry is already trademarked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only Canada Wet though .
Canada Dry is already trademarked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only Canada Wet though.
Canada Dry is already trademarked.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194052</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266502440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously you're missing the times when a U.S. athlete is in the running for a medal. After all, they do limit their coverage to only those events where a U.S. athlete has a reasonable chance of getting a medal. That's why we don't see coverage of sports like biathlon and curling (aka team shuffle board on ice) in the winter Olympics and race walking, modern pentathlon, and badminton in the summer. So if you tune in when figure skating (winter) or synchronized swimming (summer) are scheduled, you'll have no trouble finding event coverage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously you 're missing the times when a U.S. athlete is in the running for a medal .
After all , they do limit their coverage to only those events where a U.S. athlete has a reasonable chance of getting a medal .
That 's why we do n't see coverage of sports like biathlon and curling ( aka team shuffle board on ice ) in the winter Olympics and race walking , modern pentathlon , and badminton in the summer .
So if you tune in when figure skating ( winter ) or synchronized swimming ( summer ) are scheduled , you 'll have no trouble finding event coverage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously you're missing the times when a U.S. athlete is in the running for a medal.
After all, they do limit their coverage to only those events where a U.S. athlete has a reasonable chance of getting a medal.
That's why we don't see coverage of sports like biathlon and curling (aka team shuffle board on ice) in the winter Olympics and race walking, modern pentathlon, and badminton in the summer.
So if you tune in when figure skating (winter) or synchronized swimming (summer) are scheduled, you'll have no trouble finding event coverage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196356</id>
	<title>It's only used since 2786 years..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266610440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..no reason not to have copyright on it..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..no reason not to have copyright on it. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..no reason not to have copyright on it..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194210</id>
	<title>As an olympian AND slashdot reader...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266503460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes olympic athlete + geek is a possible combination...</p><p>I can infact (or at least as far as Australian Olympians are concerned) confirm that you sign MANY papers that sign away the right to your name, image, performance (still dont know how they use that) and other things away to the national olympic body which in turn signs their right to the IOC.<br>So they will have jurisdiction via the national olympic committee, and even if the company gives the IOC the bird, they can get back at the company by putting pressure on the athlete.</p><p>Also it is VERY slack on her part. You are given multiple opportunities to inform the relevant bodies about any sponsorship agreements you have (so those guys WONT get hassled). And if she didnt inform them of it, then either she will get into shit (if company gets their lawyers) or the company will.</p><p>If the company is using it without her knowledge, then good on the IOC. Because that means the athlete is being taken advantage of by the company. If the company wants to be associated with the athlete, they should pay!<br>Most olympians have to work part time (with large amounts of unpaid holidays), and their sporting pursuit costs them MAJOR money to do. So they NEED every dollar they can get (yes some olympians are cashed up but they are a minority).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes olympic athlete + geek is a possible combination...I can infact ( or at least as far as Australian Olympians are concerned ) confirm that you sign MANY papers that sign away the right to your name , image , performance ( still dont know how they use that ) and other things away to the national olympic body which in turn signs their right to the IOC.So they will have jurisdiction via the national olympic committee , and even if the company gives the IOC the bird , they can get back at the company by putting pressure on the athlete.Also it is VERY slack on her part .
You are given multiple opportunities to inform the relevant bodies about any sponsorship agreements you have ( so those guys WONT get hassled ) .
And if she didnt inform them of it , then either she will get into shit ( if company gets their lawyers ) or the company will.If the company is using it without her knowledge , then good on the IOC .
Because that means the athlete is being taken advantage of by the company .
If the company wants to be associated with the athlete , they should pay ! Most olympians have to work part time ( with large amounts of unpaid holidays ) , and their sporting pursuit costs them MAJOR money to do .
So they NEED every dollar they can get ( yes some olympians are cashed up but they are a minority ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes olympic athlete + geek is a possible combination...I can infact (or at least as far as Australian Olympians are concerned) confirm that you sign MANY papers that sign away the right to your name, image, performance (still dont know how they use that) and other things away to the national olympic body which in turn signs their right to the IOC.So they will have jurisdiction via the national olympic committee, and even if the company gives the IOC the bird, they can get back at the company by putting pressure on the athlete.Also it is VERY slack on her part.
You are given multiple opportunities to inform the relevant bodies about any sponsorship agreements you have (so those guys WONT get hassled).
And if she didnt inform them of it, then either she will get into shit (if company gets their lawyers) or the company will.If the company is using it without her knowledge, then good on the IOC.
Because that means the athlete is being taken advantage of by the company.
If the company wants to be associated with the athlete, they should pay!Most olympians have to work part time (with large amounts of unpaid holidays), and their sporting pursuit costs them MAJOR money to do.
So they NEED every dollar they can get (yes some olympians are cashed up but they are a minority).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193218</id>
	<title>Re:There are three things to consider</title>
	<author>Compholio</author>
	<datestamp>1266497280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>1. They hold an IP right to the use of Olympian, so the phrase Olympian Lindsay Vonn is a use of a trademark.</p></div></blockquote><p>
I highly doubt that they hold any rights on "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympian" title="wikipedia.org">Olympian</a> [wikipedia.org]," I know I think of the newspaper whenever I hear anyone use it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
They hold an IP right to the use of Olympian , so the phrase Olympian Lindsay Vonn is a use of a trademark .
I highly doubt that they hold any rights on " Olympian [ wikipedia.org ] , " I know I think of the newspaper whenever I hear anyone use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
They hold an IP right to the use of Olympian, so the phrase Olympian Lindsay Vonn is a use of a trademark.
I highly doubt that they hold any rights on "Olympian [wikipedia.org]," I know I think of the newspaper whenever I hear anyone use it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193076</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>shadowfaxcrx</author>
	<datestamp>1266496620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not entirely sure that a contract stating that your name is someone else's intellectual property would be enforceable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not entirely sure that a contract stating that your name is someone else 's intellectual property would be enforceable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not entirely sure that a contract stating that your name is someone else's intellectual property would be enforceable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192918</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193916</id>
	<title>Re:Tons more complaints this time</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1266501540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone even watching the game?  I know the Winter Games don't draw that much, but this one, the indifference is deafening.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone even watching the game ?
I know the Winter Games do n't draw that much , but this one , the indifference is deafening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone even watching the game?
I know the Winter Games don't draw that much, but this one, the indifference is deafening.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31197240</id>
	<title>Re:No matter who wins...</title>
	<author>Scrab</author>
	<datestamp>1266577920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't help but think there's something missing from that one liner...

Something about some shades, and a soundtrack by The Who....</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't help but think there 's something missing from that one liner.. . Something about some shades , and a soundtrack by The Who... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't help but think there's something missing from that one liner...

Something about some shades, and a soundtrack by The Who....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31205546</id>
	<title>Re:As an olympian AND slashdot reader...</title>
	<author>fishexe</author>
	<datestamp>1266580620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Also it is VERY slack on her part. You are given multiple opportunities to inform the relevant bodies about any sponsorship agreements you have (so those guys WONT get hassled). And if she didnt inform them of it, then either she will get into shit (if company gets their lawyers) or the company will.</p></div><p>But what if she <i>did</i> inform them of the sponsorship agreement, and they're just being dicks about it?  No part of informing the IOC changes the IP relationship, so I'm guessing she did tell them because that in no way indemnifies the sponsor.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also it is VERY slack on her part .
You are given multiple opportunities to inform the relevant bodies about any sponsorship agreements you have ( so those guys WONT get hassled ) .
And if she didnt inform them of it , then either she will get into shit ( if company gets their lawyers ) or the company will.But what if she did inform them of the sponsorship agreement , and they 're just being dicks about it ?
No part of informing the IOC changes the IP relationship , so I 'm guessing she did tell them because that in no way indemnifies the sponsor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also it is VERY slack on her part.
You are given multiple opportunities to inform the relevant bodies about any sponsorship agreements you have (so those guys WONT get hassled).
And if she didnt inform them of it, then either she will get into shit (if company gets their lawyers) or the company will.But what if she did inform them of the sponsorship agreement, and they're just being dicks about it?
No part of informing the IOC changes the IP relationship, so I'm guessing she did tell them because that in no way indemnifies the sponsor.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31200410</id>
	<title>Re:As an olympian AND slashdot reader...</title>
	<author>Rary</author>
	<datestamp>1266600360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If the company is using it without her knowledge, then good on the IOC. Because that means the athlete is being taken advantage of by the company. If the company wants to be associated with the athlete, they should pay!</p></div><p>All they did was post a blog posting in which they discuss the coverage found on NBC's UniversalSports.com, and criticize the fact that it focuses on trivialities, such as Vonn's hair. The entire section mentioning Vonn's name follows:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>They just posted a good rundown of the Woman's field disguised as story about the rivalry between top skiers (and best friends!) Lindsey Vonn and Maria Reisch.</p><p>You just have to get through the apparently compulsory attempt to dumb it down for the American audience, as in, "Perhaps the most significant difference between the two skiers, other than their hairstyles, is that Vonn has two overall World Cup titles and Riesch none."</p></div><p>That's it. They're not taking advantage of Ms. Vonn. They're not trying to become associated with her without paying. They're just talking about Olympic coverage in a blog post.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the company is using it without her knowledge , then good on the IOC .
Because that means the athlete is being taken advantage of by the company .
If the company wants to be associated with the athlete , they should pay ! All they did was post a blog posting in which they discuss the coverage found on NBC 's UniversalSports.com , and criticize the fact that it focuses on trivialities , such as Vonn 's hair .
The entire section mentioning Vonn 's name follows : They just posted a good rundown of the Woman 's field disguised as story about the rivalry between top skiers ( and best friends !
) Lindsey Vonn and Maria Reisch.You just have to get through the apparently compulsory attempt to dumb it down for the American audience , as in , " Perhaps the most significant difference between the two skiers , other than their hairstyles , is that Vonn has two overall World Cup titles and Riesch none .
" That 's it .
They 're not taking advantage of Ms. Vonn. They 're not trying to become associated with her without paying .
They 're just talking about Olympic coverage in a blog post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the company is using it without her knowledge, then good on the IOC.
Because that means the athlete is being taken advantage of by the company.
If the company wants to be associated with the athlete, they should pay!All they did was post a blog posting in which they discuss the coverage found on NBC's UniversalSports.com, and criticize the fact that it focuses on trivialities, such as Vonn's hair.
The entire section mentioning Vonn's name follows:They just posted a good rundown of the Woman's field disguised as story about the rivalry between top skiers (and best friends!
) Lindsey Vonn and Maria Reisch.You just have to get through the apparently compulsory attempt to dumb it down for the American audience, as in, "Perhaps the most significant difference between the two skiers, other than their hairstyles, is that Vonn has two overall World Cup titles and Riesch none.
"That's it.
They're not taking advantage of Ms. Vonn. They're not trying to become associated with her without paying.
They're just talking about Olympic coverage in a blog post.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31200794</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>HTH NE1</author>
	<datestamp>1266601920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm guessing you meant "vicious." Unless you're claiming that the Olympics have a high internal friction which resists <b>defamation</b> through <b>fear</b> or <b>existential</b> stresses.</p></div><p>More like that I think.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing you meant " vicious .
" Unless you 're claiming that the Olympics have a high internal friction which resists defamation through fear or existential stresses.More like that I think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing you meant "vicious.
" Unless you're claiming that the Olympics have a high internal friction which resists defamation through fear or existential stresses.More like that I think.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31199616</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>zimboptoo</author>
	<datestamp>1266596820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>More to the point: TFS specifically refers to the "poem" on the front page of the UVEX website, which is linked.</htmltext>
<tokenext>More to the point : TFS specifically refers to the " poem " on the front page of the UVEX website , which is linked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More to the point: TFS specifically refers to the "poem" on the front page of the UVEX website, which is linked.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194854</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>e3k7</author>
	<datestamp>1266507240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Skeezy"? Uvex has been making gear for a very, very long time, and a lot of skiers will tell you their first pair of goggles probably came from there. Most of this stuff is not for the sake of looking good, it's made for safety, and they do it well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Skeezy " ?
Uvex has been making gear for a very , very long time , and a lot of skiers will tell you their first pair of goggles probably came from there .
Most of this stuff is not for the sake of looking good , it 's made for safety , and they do it well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Skeezy"?
Uvex has been making gear for a very, very long time, and a lot of skiers will tell you their first pair of goggles probably came from there.
Most of this stuff is not for the sake of looking good, it's made for safety, and they do it well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193932</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>OFnow</author>
	<datestamp>1266501600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>Can the IOC really claim an Olypmian's name as their own intellectual property?</i> </p><p>.</p></div><p>Hmm. What about that other Lindsey Vonn (you know, the one not connected with sport<br>in any way.  At home somewhere in the USA.).    Someone getting the rights to -my- rather common name<br>when I'm not involved in any way would be so....weird.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can the IOC really claim an Olypmian 's name as their own intellectual property ?
.Hmm. What about that other Lindsey Vonn ( you know , the one not connected with sportin any way .
At home somewhere in the USA. ) .
Someone getting the rights to -my- rather common namewhen I 'm not involved in any way would be so....weird .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Can the IOC really claim an Olypmian's name as their own intellectual property?
.Hmm. What about that other Lindsey Vonn (you know, the one not connected with sportin any way.
At home somewhere in the USA.).
Someone getting the rights to -my- rather common namewhen I'm not involved in any way would be so....weird.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31201982</id>
	<title>Re:As an olympian AND slashdot reader...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266607560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Most olympians have to work part time (with large amounts of unpaid holidays), and their sporting pursuit costs them MAJOR money to do. So they NEED every dollar they can get (yes some olympians are cashed up but they are a minority).</p></div><p>Oooh...most olympians need a real job.  Boo-hoo.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most olympians have to work part time ( with large amounts of unpaid holidays ) , and their sporting pursuit costs them MAJOR money to do .
So they NEED every dollar they can get ( yes some olympians are cashed up but they are a minority ) .Oooh...most olympians need a real job .
Boo-hoo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most olympians have to work part time (with large amounts of unpaid holidays), and their sporting pursuit costs them MAJOR money to do.
So they NEED every dollar they can get (yes some olympians are cashed up but they are a minority).Oooh...most olympians need a real job.
Boo-hoo.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193622</id>
	<title>Re:There are three things to consider</title>
	<author>myowntrueself</author>
	<datestamp>1266499560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There was a similar problem for the Sydney Olympics.</p><p>It turned out that there was a man, a Mr Games (Mr Sydney *Olympic* Games to be precise) who had actually taken the trouble to make his name his registered trademark.</p><p>Of course the IOC was caught with its pants down on this one and had to refrain from referring to this particular Olympiad as the "Sydney Olympic Games".</p><p>I saw this on the excellent documentary series "The Games".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There was a similar problem for the Sydney Olympics.It turned out that there was a man , a Mr Games ( Mr Sydney * Olympic * Games to be precise ) who had actually taken the trouble to make his name his registered trademark.Of course the IOC was caught with its pants down on this one and had to refrain from referring to this particular Olympiad as the " Sydney Olympic Games " .I saw this on the excellent documentary series " The Games " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was a similar problem for the Sydney Olympics.It turned out that there was a man, a Mr Games (Mr Sydney *Olympic* Games to be precise) who had actually taken the trouble to make his name his registered trademark.Of course the IOC was caught with its pants down on this one and had to refrain from referring to this particular Olympiad as the "Sydney Olympic Games".I saw this on the excellent documentary series "The Games".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31200186</id>
	<title>Re:View from Vancouver of Olympic hypocrisy</title>
	<author>SecurityGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1266599460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>At the entrance, volunteers searched my bag and poured out my bottle of water.</p></div></blockquote><p>How pathetic to <i>volunteer</i> to screw people over for the benefit of giant multinationals and morally bankrupt organizations like the IOC.</p><p>The games are utterly ruined for me, and have been for a while.  It's such a shame.  Nothing short of a massive boycott would do any good, but the athletes would be most hurt by it, especially for sports with a short competitive lifespan.</p><p>Anymore, I don't watch.  I don't care.  I don't buy crap because it has the word "Olympics" or the stupid ring logo on it.  I'll never pay money to see an event, and I'll raise hell like you've never seen if anybody ever tries to bring that pile of monstrous civic wreckage to my city.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At the entrance , volunteers searched my bag and poured out my bottle of water.How pathetic to volunteer to screw people over for the benefit of giant multinationals and morally bankrupt organizations like the IOC.The games are utterly ruined for me , and have been for a while .
It 's such a shame .
Nothing short of a massive boycott would do any good , but the athletes would be most hurt by it , especially for sports with a short competitive lifespan.Anymore , I do n't watch .
I do n't care .
I do n't buy crap because it has the word " Olympics " or the stupid ring logo on it .
I 'll never pay money to see an event , and I 'll raise hell like you 've never seen if anybody ever tries to bring that pile of monstrous civic wreckage to my city .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the entrance, volunteers searched my bag and poured out my bottle of water.How pathetic to volunteer to screw people over for the benefit of giant multinationals and morally bankrupt organizations like the IOC.The games are utterly ruined for me, and have been for a while.
It's such a shame.
Nothing short of a massive boycott would do any good, but the athletes would be most hurt by it, especially for sports with a short competitive lifespan.Anymore, I don't watch.
I don't care.
I don't buy crap because it has the word "Olympics" or the stupid ring logo on it.
I'll never pay money to see an event, and I'll raise hell like you've never seen if anybody ever tries to bring that pile of monstrous civic wreckage to my city.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31200298</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>UnknowingFool</author>
	<datestamp>1266599940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uvex sponsors her.  Normally when a company (especially a sporting goods company) sponsors an athlete,  the company gets to use the athlete in their promotions.  That's like Nike not being able to mention the runners they sponsor; Speedo not being able to mention the swimmers they sponsor, etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uvex sponsors her .
Normally when a company ( especially a sporting goods company ) sponsors an athlete , the company gets to use the athlete in their promotions .
That 's like Nike not being able to mention the runners they sponsor ; Speedo not being able to mention the swimmers they sponsor , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uvex sponsors her.
Normally when a company (especially a sporting goods company) sponsors an athlete,  the company gets to use the athlete in their promotions.
That's like Nike not being able to mention the runners they sponsor; Speedo not being able to mention the swimmers they sponsor, etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194106</id>
	<title>Re:Tons more complaints this time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266502740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was hoping to watch the olympics.  Adding ads to the stream is even OK with me.  Too bad they made it so difficult we gave up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was hoping to watch the olympics .
Adding ads to the stream is even OK with me .
Too bad they made it so difficult we gave up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was hoping to watch the olympics.
Adding ads to the stream is even OK with me.
Too bad they made it so difficult we gave up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192856</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31197394</id>
	<title>Re:View from Vancouver of Olympic hypocrisy</title>
	<author>qc\_dk</author>
	<datestamp>1266579480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Last weekend, along with my wife and son, I visited one of the "free" events for Chinese New Year.  We wanted to see a Chinese dragon, dancing, and so forth.  At the entrance, volunteers searched my bag and poured out my bottle of water.  This was for the benefit of Coca-Cola Corp., which was selling bottled tap water (Dasani is tap water) for $3.50.  I was literally (I don't mean figuratively) spitting mad.  You don't go somewhere with a little kid unless you have food and water.
</p></div><p>
I don't know how your "good samaritan" laws are in Canada, but here in Denmark it's illegal to refuse someone water. A cafe or restaurant must
give you a glass of tapwater free of charge if you ask for it, if you occupy a seat or otherwise behave like an ordinary customer they can obviously charge. The same goes for ordinary people. You can ask at any house or appt, and they must give you a glass of water.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Last weekend , along with my wife and son , I visited one of the " free " events for Chinese New Year .
We wanted to see a Chinese dragon , dancing , and so forth .
At the entrance , volunteers searched my bag and poured out my bottle of water .
This was for the benefit of Coca-Cola Corp. , which was selling bottled tap water ( Dasani is tap water ) for $ 3.50 .
I was literally ( I do n't mean figuratively ) spitting mad .
You do n't go somewhere with a little kid unless you have food and water .
I do n't know how your " good samaritan " laws are in Canada , but here in Denmark it 's illegal to refuse someone water .
A cafe or restaurant must give you a glass of tapwater free of charge if you ask for it , if you occupy a seat or otherwise behave like an ordinary customer they can obviously charge .
The same goes for ordinary people .
You can ask at any house or appt , and they must give you a glass of water .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last weekend, along with my wife and son, I visited one of the "free" events for Chinese New Year.
We wanted to see a Chinese dragon, dancing, and so forth.
At the entrance, volunteers searched my bag and poured out my bottle of water.
This was for the benefit of Coca-Cola Corp., which was selling bottled tap water (Dasani is tap water) for $3.50.
I was literally (I don't mean figuratively) spitting mad.
You don't go somewhere with a little kid unless you have food and water.
I don't know how your "good samaritan" laws are in Canada, but here in Denmark it's illegal to refuse someone water.
A cafe or restaurant must
give you a glass of tapwater free of charge if you ask for it, if you occupy a seat or otherwise behave like an ordinary customer they can obviously charge.
The same goes for ordinary people.
You can ask at any house or appt, and they must give you a glass of water.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193280</id>
	<title>Re:There are three things to consider</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1266497640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>3. Lawyers hate America, so they can claim anything, and also be WRONG. For example, the activist US Supreme Court claims that Corporations are People and have the same rights as Citizens, which no sane citizen agrees with.</p></div></blockquote><p>Including voting for president?<br>Or even being president?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3 .
Lawyers hate America , so they can claim anything , and also be WRONG .
For example , the activist US Supreme Court claims that Corporations are People and have the same rights as Citizens , which no sane citizen agrees with.Including voting for president ? Or even being president ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3.
Lawyers hate America, so they can claim anything, and also be WRONG.
For example, the activist US Supreme Court claims that Corporations are People and have the same rights as Citizens, which no sane citizen agrees with.Including voting for president?Or even being president?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194644</id>
	<title>Re:ISO and IOC are similar in my view</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266506040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Once respected now just trashed.  ISO was destroyed in my eyes by the whole Microsoft debacle.  (some would say long before that, but I knew nothing of ISO's procedures or problems before Microsoft's involvement.)  The IOC's pure greed and nonsense over the past few years had convinced me that the Olympics just ain't cool any more.</p></div><p>"Past few years"!?!?!</p><p>Are you fucking kidding?  How about "past century or so"?</p><p>The Olympics have ALWAYS been crooked and corrupt.</p><p>Are you old enough to remember the 1972 men's basketball finals?  The one where they replayed the last 3 seconds <b>three times</b> until the Soviet Union managed to score a basket to win?</p><p>Are you aware that IOC President for damn near half a century Juan Antonio Samarach was a Fascist?  Literally?  A true-blue, here's-the-photo-of-me-in-uniform-standing-next-to-Franco Fascist?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Once respected now just trashed .
ISO was destroyed in my eyes by the whole Microsoft debacle .
( some would say long before that , but I knew nothing of ISO 's procedures or problems before Microsoft 's involvement .
) The IOC 's pure greed and nonsense over the past few years had convinced me that the Olympics just ai n't cool any more .
" Past few years " ! ? ! ?
! Are you fucking kidding ?
How about " past century or so " ? The Olympics have ALWAYS been crooked and corrupt.Are you old enough to remember the 1972 men 's basketball finals ?
The one where they replayed the last 3 seconds three times until the Soviet Union managed to score a basket to win ? Are you aware that IOC President for damn near half a century Juan Antonio Samarach was a Fascist ?
Literally ? A true-blue , here 's-the-photo-of-me-in-uniform-standing-next-to-Franco Fascist ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once respected now just trashed.
ISO was destroyed in my eyes by the whole Microsoft debacle.
(some would say long before that, but I knew nothing of ISO's procedures or problems before Microsoft's involvement.
)  The IOC's pure greed and nonsense over the past few years had convinced me that the Olympics just ain't cool any more.
"Past few years"!?!?
!Are you fucking kidding?
How about "past century or so"?The Olympics have ALWAYS been crooked and corrupt.Are you old enough to remember the 1972 men's basketball finals?
The one where they replayed the last 3 seconds three times until the Soviet Union managed to score a basket to win?Are you aware that IOC President for damn near half a century Juan Antonio Samarach was a Fascist?
Literally?  A true-blue, here's-the-photo-of-me-in-uniform-standing-next-to-Franco Fascist?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31203556</id>
	<title>Re:As an olympian AND slashdot reader...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266571860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi Dale Begg-Smith!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi Dale Begg-Smith !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi Dale Begg-Smith!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194210</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194896</id>
	<title>Oops.  Don't tell them about Nike.</title>
	<author>Anonymous Freak</author>
	<datestamp>1266507600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope nobody points out that not-olympic-sponsor Nike mentions not just olympic athletes, but the Olympics themselves on one of their web pages:<br><a href="http://inside.nike.com/blogs/niketraining-en\_CA/tags/winter\_olympics" title="nike.com">Nike Training - Winter Olympics</a> [nike.com]</p><p>(Strange, as far as I can tell, the Vancouver Olympic Committee has contracted with Nike to provide material for the games.  So VOC is paying Nike, not Nike paying any OC.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope nobody points out that not-olympic-sponsor Nike mentions not just olympic athletes , but the Olympics themselves on one of their web pages : Nike Training - Winter Olympics [ nike.com ] ( Strange , as far as I can tell , the Vancouver Olympic Committee has contracted with Nike to provide material for the games .
So VOC is paying Nike , not Nike paying any OC .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope nobody points out that not-olympic-sponsor Nike mentions not just olympic athletes, but the Olympics themselves on one of their web pages:Nike Training - Winter Olympics [nike.com](Strange, as far as I can tell, the Vancouver Olympic Committee has contracted with Nike to provide material for the games.
So VOC is paying Nike, not Nike paying any OC.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192896</id>
	<title>Re:CANADA 4 THA GOLD</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1266495900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And vancouver rocks,</p></div><p>Lots of rocks, sure, but too bad about that snow.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>And we're gonna win the gold in both mens and womens hockey, cuz we all know that the winter olympix are just aa huge hockey tournament with a bunch of other sports going on...</p></div><p>You seem obsessed with sports, ie 'physical activity' and claiming that someone else's physical activity makes you somehow better.  Are you sure you're on the right site?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And vancouver rocks,Lots of rocks , sure , but too bad about that snow.And we 're gon na win the gold in both mens and womens hockey , cuz we all know that the winter olympix are just aa huge hockey tournament with a bunch of other sports going on...You seem obsessed with sports , ie 'physical activity ' and claiming that someone else 's physical activity makes you somehow better .
Are you sure you 're on the right site ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And vancouver rocks,Lots of rocks, sure, but too bad about that snow.And we're gonna win the gold in both mens and womens hockey, cuz we all know that the winter olympix are just aa huge hockey tournament with a bunch of other sports going on...You seem obsessed with sports, ie 'physical activity' and claiming that someone else's physical activity makes you somehow better.
Are you sure you're on the right site?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193842</id>
	<title>Re:In a related story...</title>
	<author>Bemopolis</author>
	<datestamp>1266501000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or you could try O-C-A-N-A-D-A.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or you could try O-C-A-N-A-D-A .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you could try O-C-A-N-A-D-A.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193000</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192818</id>
	<title>CANADA 4 THA GOLD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266495540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>off topic but...</p><p>all that matters is CANADA WON ANOTHER GOLD today!</p><p>And we're gonna win the gold in both mens and womens hockey, cuz we all know that the winter olympix are just aa huge hockey tournament with a bunch of other sports going on...</p><p>And vancouver rocks, if you need any BC bud and managed to get out of your moms basement long enough to reach the best city in the world, look for the brown guy with fake dreadlocks by the art gallery.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>off topic but...all that matters is CANADA WON ANOTHER GOLD today ! And we 're gon na win the gold in both mens and womens hockey , cuz we all know that the winter olympix are just aa huge hockey tournament with a bunch of other sports going on...And vancouver rocks , if you need any BC bud and managed to get out of your moms basement long enough to reach the best city in the world , look for the brown guy with fake dreadlocks by the art gallery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>off topic but...all that matters is CANADA WON ANOTHER GOLD today!And we're gonna win the gold in both mens and womens hockey, cuz we all know that the winter olympix are just aa huge hockey tournament with a bunch of other sports going on...And vancouver rocks, if you need any BC bud and managed to get out of your moms basement long enough to reach the best city in the world, look for the brown guy with fake dreadlocks by the art gallery.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31197306</id>
	<title>Re:Tons more complaints this time</title>
	<author>mcvos</author>
	<datestamp>1266578520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>-a zamboni broke down</p><p>Every large event has problems no matter how much planning goes into them.  The 2010 Olympics are no different.</p></div><p>All their zambonis broke down. They had to postpone a big event when they were right in the middle of it. That's certainly unheard of in the speed skating world.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>-a zamboni broke downEvery large event has problems no matter how much planning goes into them .
The 2010 Olympics are no different.All their zambonis broke down .
They had to postpone a big event when they were right in the middle of it .
That 's certainly unheard of in the speed skating world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-a zamboni broke downEvery large event has problems no matter how much planning goes into them.
The 2010 Olympics are no different.All their zambonis broke down.
They had to postpone a big event when they were right in the middle of it.
That's certainly unheard of in the speed skating world.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194222</id>
	<title>Olympic Facebook page deletes detremental posts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266503580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you go to IOC FaceBook site and post anything concerning this story, the post is immediately removed.  EVERYONE should go there and Post Go Olympians!  Boo IOC!  and see if they can delete posts as fast as we can write them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you go to IOC FaceBook site and post anything concerning this story , the post is immediately removed .
EVERYONE should go there and Post Go Olympians !
Boo IOC !
and see if they can delete posts as fast as we can write them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you go to IOC FaceBook site and post anything concerning this story, the post is immediately removed.
EVERYONE should go there and Post Go Olympians!
Boo IOC!
and see if they can delete posts as fast as we can write them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193000</id>
	<title>Re:In a related story...</title>
	<author>PaganRitual</author>
	<datestamp>1266496320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a loose claim though, everyone is still allowed to use it, the just have to say it slowly, and write it out like this : C-A-A-N-A-D-A-A</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a loose claim though , everyone is still allowed to use it , the just have to say it slowly , and write it out like this : C-A-A-N-A-D-A-A</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a loose claim though, everyone is still allowed to use it, the just have to say it slowly, and write it out like this : C-A-A-N-A-D-A-A</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193856</id>
	<title>No matter who wins...</title>
	<author>gnarlyhotep</author>
	<datestamp>1266501120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>we luge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>we luge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we luge.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194212</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>shermo</author>
	<datestamp>1266503460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiad" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiad</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympian" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympian</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Yes, this time every 2 years is very stressful for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiad [ wikipedia.org ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympian [ wikipedia.org ] Yes , this time every 2 years is very stressful for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiad [wikipedia.org]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympian [wikipedia.org]Yes, this time every 2 years is very stressful for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194400</id>
	<title>They're making the olympics less popular?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266504660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So I guess if you see less stuff about the Olympics, and it's mentioned in fewer places, it'll become less popular.  What's the point of that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So I guess if you see less stuff about the Olympics , and it 's mentioned in fewer places , it 'll become less popular .
What 's the point of that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I guess if you see less stuff about the Olympics, and it's mentioned in fewer places, it'll become less popular.
What's the point of that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193340</id>
	<title>Re:It depends...</title>
	<author>thisnamestoolong</author>
	<datestamp>1266498000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I heartily agree with your statement that the Olympics is a sticky, oily commercial enterprise that is relatively highly resistant to flow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I heartily agree with your statement that the Olympics is a sticky , oily commercial enterprise that is relatively highly resistant to flow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heartily agree with your statement that the Olympics is a sticky, oily commercial enterprise that is relatively highly resistant to flow.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193028</id>
	<title>Re:CANADA 4 THA GOLD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266496440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>all that matters is CANADA WON ANOTHER GOLD today!</i></p><p><i>And we're gonna win the gold in both mens and womens hockey, cuz we all know that the winter olympix are just aa huge hockey tournament with a bunch of other sports going on...</i></p><p>Shut up you iceholes!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>all that matters is CANADA WON ANOTHER GOLD today ! And we 're gon na win the gold in both mens and womens hockey , cuz we all know that the winter olympix are just aa huge hockey tournament with a bunch of other sports going on...Shut up you iceholes !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>all that matters is CANADA WON ANOTHER GOLD today!And we're gonna win the gold in both mens and womens hockey, cuz we all know that the winter olympix are just aa huge hockey tournament with a bunch of other sports going on...Shut up you iceholes!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193172</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266497100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder when Adobe will pull a Google and protect their name by claiming Photoshop is not a verb (and therefore not an everyday term that might fall outside of copyright law).  Or perhaps they'll just enjoy the fact (monetarily speaking) that people aren't saying, "Yah.  That chick is gimped.  You can see the floating pixels..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder when Adobe will pull a Google and protect their name by claiming Photoshop is not a verb ( and therefore not an everyday term that might fall outside of copyright law ) .
Or perhaps they 'll just enjoy the fact ( monetarily speaking ) that people are n't saying , " Yah .
That chick is gimped .
You can see the floating pixels... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder when Adobe will pull a Google and protect their name by claiming Photoshop is not a verb (and therefore not an everyday term that might fall outside of copyright law).
Or perhaps they'll just enjoy the fact (monetarily speaking) that people aren't saying, "Yah.
That chick is gimped.
You can see the floating pixels..."</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196214</id>
	<title>Re:Tons more complaints this time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266522000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since when is a "MASSIVE list of failures" one incident where an athlete errored and killed himself.<br>All governing bodies say the track is fine.</p><p>Yes the course is difficult, yet the Olympics should be the highest class of competition.<br>I don't see the problem. Most of the other athletes had no issues with the track.</p><p>oh wait you've got an athlete who couldn't qualify because crashed during training saying the course is bad<br>likely he is bitter that he couldn't qualify and would prefer to blame it on the course</p><p>Massive indeed<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/sarcasm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when is a " MASSIVE list of failures " one incident where an athlete errored and killed himself.All governing bodies say the track is fine.Yes the course is difficult , yet the Olympics should be the highest class of competition.I do n't see the problem .
Most of the other athletes had no issues with the track.oh wait you 've got an athlete who could n't qualify because crashed during training saying the course is badlikely he is bitter that he could n't qualify and would prefer to blame it on the courseMassive indeed /sarcasm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when is a "MASSIVE list of failures" one incident where an athlete errored and killed himself.All governing bodies say the track is fine.Yes the course is difficult, yet the Olympics should be the highest class of competition.I don't see the problem.
Most of the other athletes had no issues with the track.oh wait you've got an athlete who couldn't qualify because crashed during training saying the course is badlikely he is bitter that he couldn't qualify and would prefer to blame it on the courseMassive indeed /sarcasm</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193186</id>
	<title>Streisand Award</title>
	<author>Archangel Michael</author>
	<datestamp>1266497160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I propose we inaugurate a new set of weekly, monthly and yearly Streisand awards. For this, I'd like to Nominate for all three categories this most boneheaded request of the IOC.</p><p>In the meantime, lets help  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey\_Vonn" title="wikipedia.org"> UVEX </a> [wikipedia.org] by directly linking their name (like I have here) with <a href="http://www.lindseyvonn.com/" title="lindseyvonn.com"> Vonn's </a> [lindseyvonn.com] name.</p><p>They can't stop the mob!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I propose we inaugurate a new set of weekly , monthly and yearly Streisand awards .
For this , I 'd like to Nominate for all three categories this most boneheaded request of the IOC.In the meantime , lets help UVEX [ wikipedia.org ] by directly linking their name ( like I have here ) with Vonn 's [ lindseyvonn.com ] name.They ca n't stop the mob !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I propose we inaugurate a new set of weekly, monthly and yearly Streisand awards.
For this, I'd like to Nominate for all three categories this most boneheaded request of the IOC.In the meantime, lets help   UVEX  [wikipedia.org] by directly linking their name (like I have here) with  Vonn's  [lindseyvonn.com] name.They can't stop the mob!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195108</id>
	<title>for the last time: DMCA IS NOT FOR TRADEMARKS</title>
	<author>salesgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1266509220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the IOC claimed Lindsay Vonn as a tradmark, the cannot use a DMCA takedown to remove content. The C in DMCA is for Copyright. For trademark, you might get a "cease and desist" letter, but not a takedown notice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the IOC claimed Lindsay Vonn as a tradmark , the can not use a DMCA takedown to remove content .
The C in DMCA is for Copyright .
For trademark , you might get a " cease and desist " letter , but not a takedown notice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the IOC claimed Lindsay Vonn as a tradmark, the cannot use a DMCA takedown to remove content.
The C in DMCA is for Copyright.
For trademark, you might get a "cease and desist" letter, but not a takedown notice.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31205356</id>
	<title>Re:View from Vancouver of Olympic hypocrisy</title>
	<author>sedmonds</author>
	<datestamp>1266579360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It exists outside the law (truly: a Canadian court ruled the Olympics violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but did nothing because the IOC is outside Canadian jurisdiction)</p></div></blockquote><p>
The defendant in the case was VANOC, not the IOC.  That is a critically important element of the case.  VANOC doesn't have the power to decide which events to include, they do have the contractual obligation to implement facilities for the events the IOC decides.  VANOC in fact had been helping with providing women access to ski-jump facilities to practice, and unsuccessfully for their inclusion in the 2010 games.
</p><p>
The court examined the arguments, and found that men's ski-jumping being grandfathered into the Olympics was the critical factor in women being discriminated against by IOC policies.  That is, neither men nor women meet IOC requirements for inclusion in the Olympics.  Neither has sufficient participation and world standing to be included.  IOC policy allows for inclusion of "traditional" events, such as men's ski-jump - which at one time met requirements for inclusion in the Olympics, discriminates against women - who have never met the requirements for inclusion in the Olympics.  So the just solution would be for the IOC to discontinue men's ski-jump.  That'd be a lot of help to the women who brought suit...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It exists outside the law ( truly : a Canadian court ruled the Olympics violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms , but did nothing because the IOC is outside Canadian jurisdiction ) The defendant in the case was VANOC , not the IOC .
That is a critically important element of the case .
VANOC does n't have the power to decide which events to include , they do have the contractual obligation to implement facilities for the events the IOC decides .
VANOC in fact had been helping with providing women access to ski-jump facilities to practice , and unsuccessfully for their inclusion in the 2010 games .
The court examined the arguments , and found that men 's ski-jumping being grandfathered into the Olympics was the critical factor in women being discriminated against by IOC policies .
That is , neither men nor women meet IOC requirements for inclusion in the Olympics .
Neither has sufficient participation and world standing to be included .
IOC policy allows for inclusion of " traditional " events , such as men 's ski-jump - which at one time met requirements for inclusion in the Olympics , discriminates against women - who have never met the requirements for inclusion in the Olympics .
So the just solution would be for the IOC to discontinue men 's ski-jump .
That 'd be a lot of help to the women who brought suit.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It exists outside the law (truly: a Canadian court ruled the Olympics violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but did nothing because the IOC is outside Canadian jurisdiction)
The defendant in the case was VANOC, not the IOC.
That is a critically important element of the case.
VANOC doesn't have the power to decide which events to include, they do have the contractual obligation to implement facilities for the events the IOC decides.
VANOC in fact had been helping with providing women access to ski-jump facilities to practice, and unsuccessfully for their inclusion in the 2010 games.
The court examined the arguments, and found that men's ski-jumping being grandfathered into the Olympics was the critical factor in women being discriminated against by IOC policies.
That is, neither men nor women meet IOC requirements for inclusion in the Olympics.
Neither has sufficient participation and world standing to be included.
IOC policy allows for inclusion of "traditional" events, such as men's ski-jump - which at one time met requirements for inclusion in the Olympics, discriminates against women - who have never met the requirements for inclusion in the Olympics.
So the just solution would be for the IOC to discontinue men's ski-jump.
That'd be a lot of help to the women who brought suit...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195258</id>
	<title>Being right doesn't mean winning.</title>
	<author>fruitbane</author>
	<datestamp>1266510240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I imagine UVEX has rolled over without a fight to make sure the IOC doesn't attempt to involve Ms. Vonn in this issue. I think UVEX would easily win a court challenge, but what would it do to UVEX's ability to sponsor Olympic athletes if they are on the IOC shit list? And it could have implications for the athletes being sponsored as well. The IOC doesn't have to be right to win, unfortunately.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I imagine UVEX has rolled over without a fight to make sure the IOC does n't attempt to involve Ms. Vonn in this issue .
I think UVEX would easily win a court challenge , but what would it do to UVEX 's ability to sponsor Olympic athletes if they are on the IOC shit list ?
And it could have implications for the athletes being sponsored as well .
The IOC does n't have to be right to win , unfortunately .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I imagine UVEX has rolled over without a fight to make sure the IOC doesn't attempt to involve Ms. Vonn in this issue.
I think UVEX would easily win a court challenge, but what would it do to UVEX's ability to sponsor Olympic athletes if they are on the IOC shit list?
And it could have implications for the athletes being sponsored as well.
The IOC doesn't have to be right to win, unfortunately.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193458</id>
	<title>IOC is barking up the wrong tree</title>
	<author>517714</author>
	<datestamp>1266498660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the name is the IOC's IP, even if only temporarily, then their gripe is with Ms rhymes with Bonn.  She presumably signed a contract with Uvex and also presumably with the IOC.  If the IOC can enforce anything it would be against her not the company.  The IOC's rights do not negate an existing contract which allows Uvex to use her image.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the name is the IOC 's IP , even if only temporarily , then their gripe is with Ms rhymes with Bonn .
She presumably signed a contract with Uvex and also presumably with the IOC .
If the IOC can enforce anything it would be against her not the company .
The IOC 's rights do not negate an existing contract which allows Uvex to use her image .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the name is the IOC's IP, even if only temporarily, then their gripe is with Ms rhymes with Bonn.
She presumably signed a contract with Uvex and also presumably with the IOC.
If the IOC can enforce anything it would be against her not the company.
The IOC's rights do not negate an existing contract which allows Uvex to use her image.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194712</id>
	<title>The Olympics have been stolen already</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266506460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the Olympics have already been stolen, so it's time for the thieves making such outrageous ownership claims to walk.  A new Olympics charter needs to be formulated which returns the competition to it's original purpose: to provide a non commercial venue for international sporting competition.  Really, it wouldn't take much.  The athletes and the spirit and the competition are all there.  So this can be a very small coup.  Just eliminate the current crop of fat bankers and lawyers who's only interest in the event is making money.  Fire their asses, and if they won't leave, just do it without them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the Olympics have already been stolen , so it 's time for the thieves making such outrageous ownership claims to walk .
A new Olympics charter needs to be formulated which returns the competition to it 's original purpose : to provide a non commercial venue for international sporting competition .
Really , it would n't take much .
The athletes and the spirit and the competition are all there .
So this can be a very small coup .
Just eliminate the current crop of fat bankers and lawyers who 's only interest in the event is making money .
Fire their asses , and if they wo n't leave , just do it without them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the Olympics have already been stolen, so it's time for the thieves making such outrageous ownership claims to walk.
A new Olympics charter needs to be formulated which returns the competition to it's original purpose: to provide a non commercial venue for international sporting competition.
Really, it wouldn't take much.
The athletes and the spirit and the competition are all there.
So this can be a very small coup.
Just eliminate the current crop of fat bankers and lawyers who's only interest in the event is making money.
Fire their asses, and if they won't leave, just do it without them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193266</id>
	<title>Off topic, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266497520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did anyone here even watch her downhill skiing victory? If her sob performance at the end is any indicator, the next two months will see this woman occupying all TV air time with her incessant crying. Shit, I was embarrassed just to be watching her. Even Michael Phelps was more pleasant to watch speak by comparison.</p><p>So, is anyone ACTUALLY mentioning Lindsey Vonn -- and not ridiculing her?</p><p>(Internet tough guy logging off...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did anyone here even watch her downhill skiing victory ?
If her sob performance at the end is any indicator , the next two months will see this woman occupying all TV air time with her incessant crying .
Shit , I was embarrassed just to be watching her .
Even Michael Phelps was more pleasant to watch speak by comparison.So , is anyone ACTUALLY mentioning Lindsey Vonn -- and not ridiculing her ?
( Internet tough guy logging off... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did anyone here even watch her downhill skiing victory?
If her sob performance at the end is any indicator, the next two months will see this woman occupying all TV air time with her incessant crying.
Shit, I was embarrassed just to be watching her.
Even Michael Phelps was more pleasant to watch speak by comparison.So, is anyone ACTUALLY mentioning Lindsey Vonn -- and not ridiculing her?
(Internet tough guy logging off...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194706</id>
	<title>IOC claims</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266506460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i'll like to see the IOC send a letter to Reebok and Gatorade claiming that Sidney Crosby as their own intellectual property. Wonder how well that would go over?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i 'll like to see the IOC send a letter to Reebok and Gatorade claiming that Sidney Crosby as their own intellectual property .
Wonder how well that would go over ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i'll like to see the IOC send a letter to Reebok and Gatorade claiming that Sidney Crosby as their own intellectual property.
Wonder how well that would go over?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195038</id>
	<title>stupid</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266508680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's a fun one...  I work for a web shop, one of our clients is a spa.  They have a masseuse on staff who is presently in Vancouver working for Team USA.  They indicated as much on their website last week.  All they said was "our masseuse, Jane Doe, is in Vancouver working with team USA..."</p><p>Today they get a cease-and-desist phone call from IOC lawyers...  WTF??  What's the point?  How are they profiting from this kind of stupidity?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a fun one... I work for a web shop , one of our clients is a spa .
They have a masseuse on staff who is presently in Vancouver working for Team USA .
They indicated as much on their website last week .
All they said was " our masseuse , Jane Doe , is in Vancouver working with team USA... " Today they get a cease-and-desist phone call from IOC lawyers.. .
WTF ? ? What 's the point ?
How are they profiting from this kind of stupidity ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a fun one...  I work for a web shop, one of our clients is a spa.
They have a masseuse on staff who is presently in Vancouver working for Team USA.
They indicated as much on their website last week.
All they said was "our masseuse, Jane Doe, is in Vancouver working with team USA..."Today they get a cease-and-desist phone call from IOC lawyers...
WTF??  What's the point?
How are they profiting from this kind of stupidity?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192724</id>
	<title>Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>plover</author>
	<datestamp>1266495180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course they can claim her name as their I.P.  They can also claim to be from the planet Xenu, or they can claim to be 2,000-year-old leprechauns.  Claiming a thing is their property does not actually make it their property until a court has made the decision.</p><p>For a great example of other lawyers claiming untrue things, look at <a href="http://boingboing.net/2009/12/28/demi-moores-lawyers.html" title="boingboing.net">BoingBoing's laugh at Demi Moore's lawyers' expense.</a> [boingboing.net] They claimed that BoingBoing was slandering Demi Moore by saying her image was photoshopped, when clearly it was not photoshopped as attested to by the sworn testimony of the photographers.</p><p>So the IOC can claim that Lindsey Vonn is made out of ice cream, milkweed pods, and sandpaper, if they want.  Won't make it true.  If UVEX wasn't getting such a good laugh out of this stupidity, I hope they'd have the integrity to restore Lindsey's name to their web site.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course they can claim her name as their I.P .
They can also claim to be from the planet Xenu , or they can claim to be 2,000-year-old leprechauns .
Claiming a thing is their property does not actually make it their property until a court has made the decision.For a great example of other lawyers claiming untrue things , look at BoingBoing 's laugh at Demi Moore 's lawyers ' expense .
[ boingboing.net ] They claimed that BoingBoing was slandering Demi Moore by saying her image was photoshopped , when clearly it was not photoshopped as attested to by the sworn testimony of the photographers.So the IOC can claim that Lindsey Vonn is made out of ice cream , milkweed pods , and sandpaper , if they want .
Wo n't make it true .
If UVEX was n't getting such a good laugh out of this stupidity , I hope they 'd have the integrity to restore Lindsey 's name to their web site .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course they can claim her name as their I.P.
They can also claim to be from the planet Xenu, or they can claim to be 2,000-year-old leprechauns.
Claiming a thing is their property does not actually make it their property until a court has made the decision.For a great example of other lawyers claiming untrue things, look at BoingBoing's laugh at Demi Moore's lawyers' expense.
[boingboing.net] They claimed that BoingBoing was slandering Demi Moore by saying her image was photoshopped, when clearly it was not photoshopped as attested to by the sworn testimony of the photographers.So the IOC can claim that Lindsey Vonn is made out of ice cream, milkweed pods, and sandpaper, if they want.
Won't make it true.
If UVEX wasn't getting such a good laugh out of this stupidity, I hope they'd have the integrity to restore Lindsey's name to their web site.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31199076</id>
	<title>The what market?</title>
	<author>Rocketship Underpant</author>
	<datestamp>1266594120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You seem to have no idea what "free market" means.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You seem to have no idea what " free market " means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You seem to have no idea what "free market" means.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195612</id>
	<title>Re:Not outside the realm...</title>
	<author>drosboro</author>
	<datestamp>1266513600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Still trying to figure out how any of those things could be considered "downright criminal", but I wouldn't want to spoil the griping-fun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Still trying to figure out how any of those things could be considered " downright criminal " , but I would n't want to spoil the griping-fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still trying to figure out how any of those things could be considered "downright criminal", but I wouldn't want to spoil the griping-fun.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31203680</id>
	<title>Re:Tons more complaints this time</title>
	<author>anyGould</author>
	<datestamp>1266572220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the death of the athlete was after 11 or 12 other crashes on the same course during training (I can't remember if the death counted as one of the "12 accidents" reported). The bobsled had seven crashes in a day. One of the women's ski events was so bad that it was joked that anyone who made it down the hill without falling or crashing deserved a medal...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the death of the athlete was after 11 or 12 other crashes on the same course during training ( I ca n't remember if the death counted as one of the " 12 accidents " reported ) .
The bobsled had seven crashes in a day .
One of the women 's ski events was so bad that it was joked that anyone who made it down the hill without falling or crashing deserved a medal.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the death of the athlete was after 11 or 12 other crashes on the same course during training (I can't remember if the death counted as one of the "12 accidents" reported).
The bobsled had seven crashes in a day.
One of the women's ski events was so bad that it was joked that anyone who made it down the hill without falling or crashing deserved a medal...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193840</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196942</id>
	<title>Re:Tons more complaints this time</title>
	<author>rapidmax</author>
	<datestamp>1266574740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, the IOC lost the last bit of sportmanship in favor of commercial profit maximization.</p><p>First they overruled any critism by the Indian natives. Then ignored any warnings about the insecure bob run. Now the claim insane property rights.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , the IOC lost the last bit of sportmanship in favor of commercial profit maximization.First they overruled any critism by the Indian natives .
Then ignored any warnings about the insecure bob run .
Now the claim insane property rights .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, the IOC lost the last bit of sportmanship in favor of commercial profit maximization.First they overruled any critism by the Indian natives.
Then ignored any warnings about the insecure bob run.
Now the claim insane property rights.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195448</id>
	<title>Lindsey Vonn?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266511980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who Dat?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who Dat ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who Dat?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196524</id>
	<title>then</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1266612420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>does she, or does she not use their products ?</p><p>isnt this a fact ? it is evident that she uses their products, not because they sponsored her, but their products are good. it is a FACT. you cant copyright facts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>does she , or does she not use their products ? isnt this a fact ?
it is evident that she uses their products , not because they sponsored her , but their products are good .
it is a FACT .
you cant copyright facts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>does she, or does she not use their products ?isnt this a fact ?
it is evident that she uses their products, not because they sponsored her, but their products are good.
it is a FACT.
you cant copyright facts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193840</id>
	<title>Re:Tons more complaints this time</title>
	<author>SSeth</author>
	<datestamp>1266500940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What are you smoking?

I agree that the death of the athelete was a big deal and very sad - that is about the only major issue so far at these games.

What else is on your "MASSIVE" list?
-the penii didn't go up as planned at the opening ceremonies
-a bunch of spectator tickets for snowboarding were cancelled due to weather
-weather issues at one of venues caused delays in some events
-a zamboni broke down

Every large event has problems no matter how much planning goes into them.  The 2010 Olympics are no different.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you smoking ?
I agree that the death of the athelete was a big deal and very sad - that is about the only major issue so far at these games .
What else is on your " MASSIVE " list ?
-the penii did n't go up as planned at the opening ceremonies -a bunch of spectator tickets for snowboarding were cancelled due to weather -weather issues at one of venues caused delays in some events -a zamboni broke down Every large event has problems no matter how much planning goes into them .
The 2010 Olympics are no different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you smoking?
I agree that the death of the athelete was a big deal and very sad - that is about the only major issue so far at these games.
What else is on your "MASSIVE" list?
-the penii didn't go up as planned at the opening ceremonies
-a bunch of spectator tickets for snowboarding were cancelled due to weather
-weather issues at one of venues caused delays in some events
-a zamboni broke down

Every large event has problems no matter how much planning goes into them.
The 2010 Olympics are no different.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192966</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266496200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt; Claiming a thing is their property does not actually make it their property *unless it's enforced by technical means, thus causing it to fall under the DMCA anti-circumvention clause*<br>Fixed that for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; Claiming a thing is their property does not actually make it their property * unless it 's enforced by technical means , thus causing it to fall under the DMCA anti-circumvention clause * Fixed that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; Claiming a thing is their property does not actually make it their property *unless it's enforced by technical means, thus causing it to fall under the DMCA anti-circumvention clause*Fixed that for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193072</id>
	<title>They'll claim anything</title>
	<author>budgenator</author>
	<datestamp>1266496560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the past, the IOC's have been a bunch of Narcissistic, money grubbing vampires that make the RIAA look like Sunday-School teachers; It's not out of character for them to not only claim a competitor's name, but their first-born child. a Strategy of sue everybody and let the courts figure it out isn't foreign to them either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the past , the IOC 's have been a bunch of Narcissistic , money grubbing vampires that make the RIAA look like Sunday-School teachers ; It 's not out of character for them to not only claim a competitor 's name , but their first-born child .
a Strategy of sue everybody and let the courts figure it out is n't foreign to them either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the past, the IOC's have been a bunch of Narcissistic, money grubbing vampires that make the RIAA look like Sunday-School teachers; It's not out of character for them to not only claim a competitor's name, but their first-born child.
a Strategy of sue everybody and let the courts figure it out isn't foreign to them either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194720</id>
	<title>Re:Tons more complaints this time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266506520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>-the penii didn't go up as planned at the opening ceremonies</p></div><p>The proper term is Penises...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>-the penii did n't go up as planned at the opening ceremoniesThe proper term is Penises.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-the penii didn't go up as planned at the opening ceremoniesThe proper term is Penises...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194758</id>
	<title>View from Vancouver of Olympic hypocrisy</title>
	<author>Geof</author>
	<datestamp>1266506700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I no longer view the Olympics as an idealistic sporting event. I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes.</p></div> </blockquote><p>I live in Vancouver.  I could not agree with you more.

</p><p>McDonald's started running an ad before the games.  I think it speaks for itself.  It shows a big box of golden french fries.  Beside them the words "Why Wait?  Go For Gold."

</p><p>Last weekend, along with my wife and son, I visited one of the "free" events for Chinese New Year.  We wanted to see a Chinese dragon, dancing, and so forth.  At the entrance, volunteers searched my bag and poured out my bottle of water.  This was for the benefit of Coca-Cola Corp., which was selling bottled tap water (Dasani is tap water) for $3.50.  I was literally (I don't mean figuratively) spitting mad.  You don't go somewhere with a little kid unless you have food and water.

</p><p>Keep in mind that this is not a private party:  it is funded by billions of public money and staffed with thousands of volunteers.  We have shut down major streets, suspended colleges and universities for two weeks, and passed specific laws for the benefit of the Olympics.  Or rather for the benefit of its sponsors.

</p><p>But of course this is a "green" Olympics.  As the Coke booth banner read, "Refresh. Recycle. Repeat." - and you can't recycle if you're already reusing!  A sign on the booth said a green light would go on when the booth was running solely on solar power.  A spokeswoman had gathered a crowd of children, who were competing in a Jeopardy-style contest to guess just how Green Coca-Cola is.

</p><p>So yeah, that's what the Olympics does.  It speaks of sport and healthy living, then promotes poison to kids.  It exploits athletes who give decades of their lives and sign recording-industry-style contracts for the hope of a few minutes of fame.  It exists outside the law (truly: a Canadian court ruled the Olympics violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but did nothing because the IOC is outside Canadian jurisdiction).  It goes from city to city, arranging with politicians and business leaders to transfer public money into private pockets.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I no longer view the Olympics as an idealistic sporting event .
I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes .
I live in Vancouver .
I could not agree with you more .
McDonald 's started running an ad before the games .
I think it speaks for itself .
It shows a big box of golden french fries .
Beside them the words " Why Wait ?
Go For Gold .
" Last weekend , along with my wife and son , I visited one of the " free " events for Chinese New Year .
We wanted to see a Chinese dragon , dancing , and so forth .
At the entrance , volunteers searched my bag and poured out my bottle of water .
This was for the benefit of Coca-Cola Corp. , which was selling bottled tap water ( Dasani is tap water ) for $ 3.50 .
I was literally ( I do n't mean figuratively ) spitting mad .
You do n't go somewhere with a little kid unless you have food and water .
Keep in mind that this is not a private party : it is funded by billions of public money and staffed with thousands of volunteers .
We have shut down major streets , suspended colleges and universities for two weeks , and passed specific laws for the benefit of the Olympics .
Or rather for the benefit of its sponsors .
But of course this is a " green " Olympics .
As the Coke booth banner read , " Refresh .
Recycle. Repeat .
" - and you ca n't recycle if you 're already reusing !
A sign on the booth said a green light would go on when the booth was running solely on solar power .
A spokeswoman had gathered a crowd of children , who were competing in a Jeopardy-style contest to guess just how Green Coca-Cola is .
So yeah , that 's what the Olympics does .
It speaks of sport and healthy living , then promotes poison to kids .
It exploits athletes who give decades of their lives and sign recording-industry-style contracts for the hope of a few minutes of fame .
It exists outside the law ( truly : a Canadian court ruled the Olympics violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms , but did nothing because the IOC is outside Canadian jurisdiction ) .
It goes from city to city , arranging with politicians and business leaders to transfer public money into private pockets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I no longer view the Olympics as an idealistic sporting event.
I now view it as a viscous commercial enterprise that exploits the dreams of young athletes.
I live in Vancouver.
I could not agree with you more.
McDonald's started running an ad before the games.
I think it speaks for itself.
It shows a big box of golden french fries.
Beside them the words "Why Wait?
Go For Gold.
"

Last weekend, along with my wife and son, I visited one of the "free" events for Chinese New Year.
We wanted to see a Chinese dragon, dancing, and so forth.
At the entrance, volunteers searched my bag and poured out my bottle of water.
This was for the benefit of Coca-Cola Corp., which was selling bottled tap water (Dasani is tap water) for $3.50.
I was literally (I don't mean figuratively) spitting mad.
You don't go somewhere with a little kid unless you have food and water.
Keep in mind that this is not a private party:  it is funded by billions of public money and staffed with thousands of volunteers.
We have shut down major streets, suspended colleges and universities for two weeks, and passed specific laws for the benefit of the Olympics.
Or rather for the benefit of its sponsors.
But of course this is a "green" Olympics.
As the Coke booth banner read, "Refresh.
Recycle. Repeat.
" - and you can't recycle if you're already reusing!
A sign on the booth said a green light would go on when the booth was running solely on solar power.
A spokeswoman had gathered a crowd of children, who were competing in a Jeopardy-style contest to guess just how Green Coca-Cola is.
So yeah, that's what the Olympics does.
It speaks of sport and healthy living, then promotes poison to kids.
It exploits athletes who give decades of their lives and sign recording-industry-style contracts for the hope of a few minutes of fame.
It exists outside the law (truly: a Canadian court ruled the Olympics violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but did nothing because the IOC is outside Canadian jurisdiction).
It goes from city to city, arranging with politicians and business leaders to transfer public money into private pockets.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196432</id>
	<title>Re:Not outside the realm...</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1266611340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Only accepting Visa or cash at all the venues.</p></div><p>It's not just venues, it's all official stores, too (<a href="http://www.vancouver2010.com/store/faq.html#payment" title="vancouver2010.com">including online ones</a> [vancouver2010.com]).</p><p>This is actually driving me mad. I fucking <em>live</em> in this city, and my bank (HSBC) issues MasterCard, not Visa. And what about Interac, which is <em>the</em> standard for debit cards? No go, too.</p><p>But they "proudly accept Visa". Well, I'm "proudly" not paying them a single cent. Not that it matters any in the end, judging by droves of people with that merch around...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Only accepting Visa or cash at all the venues.It 's not just venues , it 's all official stores , too ( including online ones [ vancouver2010.com ] ) .This is actually driving me mad .
I fucking live in this city , and my bank ( HSBC ) issues MasterCard , not Visa .
And what about Interac , which is the standard for debit cards ?
No go , too.But they " proudly accept Visa " .
Well , I 'm " proudly " not paying them a single cent .
Not that it matters any in the end , judging by droves of people with that merch around.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only accepting Visa or cash at all the venues.It's not just venues, it's all official stores, too (including online ones [vancouver2010.com]).This is actually driving me mad.
I fucking live in this city, and my bank (HSBC) issues MasterCard, not Visa.
And what about Interac, which is the standard for debit cards?
No go, too.But they "proudly accept Visa".
Well, I'm "proudly" not paying them a single cent.
Not that it matters any in the end, judging by droves of people with that merch around...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196154</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>gnapster</author>
	<datestamp>1266521100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh, they've <a href="http://www.adobe.com/misc/trade.html#section-4" title="adobe.com" rel="nofollow">done that already</a> [adobe.com].  I thought they did it before Google.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , they 've done that already [ adobe.com ] .
I thought they did it before Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, they've done that already [adobe.com].
I thought they did it before Google.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31194146</id>
	<title>*My* amicus brief</title>
	<author>mr\_bubb</author>
	<datestamp>1266503100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>May it please the court: it is i</htmltext>
<tokenext>May it please the court : it is i</tokentext>
<sentencetext>May it please the court: it is i</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31196482</id>
	<title>Works how unworkable Intellectual Property is</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1266612060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>back 1.5 years ago i made a comment saying if things went at that rate (then and now), in 10 years' time we wouldnt be able to even use common daily words among ourselves because some bastard would own their copyright. you people went out to make a running gag on me, claiming intellectual property on stuff in my post.</p><p>however check it out. just this week, a bastard (or a number of bastards) were able to go as far to claim someone's name as intellectual property. from there to here, since then until now. it wont even take 10 years it seems.</p><p>my point is that, if you allow some mechanism that can be abused, exploited, it WILL be abused, exploited. tangible assets as property is one thing, but once you allow 'owning' intellectual thoughts, concepts, that ends up in hampering mankind's progress because it will eventually prevent free exchange, use and progress of ideas, even very concept of 'thought' itself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>back 1.5 years ago i made a comment saying if things went at that rate ( then and now ) , in 10 years ' time we wouldnt be able to even use common daily words among ourselves because some bastard would own their copyright .
you people went out to make a running gag on me , claiming intellectual property on stuff in my post.however check it out .
just this week , a bastard ( or a number of bastards ) were able to go as far to claim someone 's name as intellectual property .
from there to here , since then until now .
it wont even take 10 years it seems.my point is that , if you allow some mechanism that can be abused , exploited , it WILL be abused , exploited .
tangible assets as property is one thing , but once you allow 'owning ' intellectual thoughts , concepts , that ends up in hampering mankind 's progress because it will eventually prevent free exchange , use and progress of ideas , even very concept of 'thought ' itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>back 1.5 years ago i made a comment saying if things went at that rate (then and now), in 10 years' time we wouldnt be able to even use common daily words among ourselves because some bastard would own their copyright.
you people went out to make a running gag on me, claiming intellectual property on stuff in my post.however check it out.
just this week, a bastard (or a number of bastards) were able to go as far to claim someone's name as intellectual property.
from there to here, since then until now.
it wont even take 10 years it seems.my point is that, if you allow some mechanism that can be abused, exploited, it WILL be abused, exploited.
tangible assets as property is one thing, but once you allow 'owning' intellectual thoughts, concepts, that ends up in hampering mankind's progress because it will eventually prevent free exchange, use and progress of ideas, even very concept of 'thought' itself.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31193138</id>
	<title>There are three things to consider</title>
	<author>WillAffleckUW</author>
	<datestamp>1266496920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. They hold an IP right to the use of Olympian, so the phrase Olympian Lindsay Vonn is a use of a trademark.</p><p>2. The name is not trademarked, as there are many people with that name, and many of them ski.</p><p>3. Lawyers hate America, so they can claim anything, and also be WRONG. For example, the activist US Supreme Court claims that Corporations are People and have the same rights as Citizens, which no sane citizen agrees with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
They hold an IP right to the use of Olympian , so the phrase Olympian Lindsay Vonn is a use of a trademark.2 .
The name is not trademarked , as there are many people with that name , and many of them ski.3 .
Lawyers hate America , so they can claim anything , and also be WRONG .
For example , the activist US Supreme Court claims that Corporations are People and have the same rights as Citizens , which no sane citizen agrees with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
They hold an IP right to the use of Olympian, so the phrase Olympian Lindsay Vonn is a use of a trademark.2.
The name is not trademarked, as there are many people with that name, and many of them ski.3.
Lawyers hate America, so they can claim anything, and also be WRONG.
For example, the activist US Supreme Court claims that Corporations are People and have the same rights as Citizens, which no sane citizen agrees with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31195158</id>
	<title>Re:Sure they can claim it</title>
	<author>mindwhip</author>
	<datestamp>1266509580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Chances are that in any other sporting event the equipment manufacturers would be directly sponsoring the best athletes, with both the athlete and the manufacturer getting what they want out of the deal.  The IOCs tight control on sponsorship more or less prevents this kind of deal resulting in both the athlete and company losing out.</p><p>The only party coming out ahead with the current situation is the IOC.</p><p>Given the number of events where the athletes conspicuously hold up their Snowboard/Skis/Other with the manufacturer's logo showing would suggest that these deals still go on but can't be made 'official' or even admitted to so as to not invoke the wrath of the IOC.</p><p>I just had another thought... if no one is allowed to use an athletes name during the Olympics everyone better return every copy of any of the many Shawn White snowboarding games....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Chances are that in any other sporting event the equipment manufacturers would be directly sponsoring the best athletes , with both the athlete and the manufacturer getting what they want out of the deal .
The IOCs tight control on sponsorship more or less prevents this kind of deal resulting in both the athlete and company losing out.The only party coming out ahead with the current situation is the IOC.Given the number of events where the athletes conspicuously hold up their Snowboard/Skis/Other with the manufacturer 's logo showing would suggest that these deals still go on but ca n't be made 'official ' or even admitted to so as to not invoke the wrath of the IOC.I just had another thought... if no one is allowed to use an athletes name during the Olympics everyone better return every copy of any of the many Shawn White snowboarding games... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chances are that in any other sporting event the equipment manufacturers would be directly sponsoring the best athletes, with both the athlete and the manufacturer getting what they want out of the deal.
The IOCs tight control on sponsorship more or less prevents this kind of deal resulting in both the athlete and company losing out.The only party coming out ahead with the current situation is the IOC.Given the number of events where the athletes conspicuously hold up their Snowboard/Skis/Other with the manufacturer's logo showing would suggest that these deals still go on but can't be made 'official' or even admitted to so as to not invoke the wrath of the IOC.I just had another thought... if no one is allowed to use an athletes name during the Olympics everyone better return every copy of any of the many Shawn White snowboarding games....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_2253224.31192834</id>
	<title>It belongs to Uvex more than it does IOC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266495600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If her sponsors are paying for her lessons, her training, and her equipment - they have more rights to her name than any olympic body. She wouldn't be at the olympics without her sponsor. The IOC did not pay Lindsey Vonn anything - if she won a medal and it was decided that medalists receive a cash prize (as the US olympic comitee has done in the past) then that was her earning, and it could have gone to anyone just as much as it was her, so its not considered payment.</p><p>If I were Uvex, I would counter-sue, claiming that they have more right to the name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If her sponsors are paying for her lessons , her training , and her equipment - they have more rights to her name than any olympic body .
She would n't be at the olympics without her sponsor .
The IOC did not pay Lindsey Vonn anything - if she won a medal and it was decided that medalists receive a cash prize ( as the US olympic comitee has done in the past ) then that was her earning , and it could have gone to anyone just as much as it was her , so its not considered payment.If I were Uvex , I would counter-sue , claiming that they have more right to the name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If her sponsors are paying for her lessons, her training, and her equipment - they have more rights to her name than any olympic body.
She wouldn't be at the olympics without her sponsor.
The IOC did not pay Lindsey Vonn anything - if she won a medal and it was decided that medalists receive a cash prize (as the US olympic comitee has done in the past) then that was her earning, and it could have gone to anyone just as much as it was her, so its not considered payment.If I were Uvex, I would counter-sue, claiming that they have more right to the name.</sentencetext>
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