<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_16_1836230</id>
	<title>Robots To Clear the Baltic Seafloor of WW-II Mines</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1266309180000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"A Russian company is building a massive natural gas pipeline that will run across the Baltic Sea floor. But first, they must <a href="http://www.infrastructurist.com/2010/02/16/who-will-clear-the-seabeds-of-wwii-mines-for-gas-pipelines-robots/">clear some of the 150,000 unexploded bombs</a> sitting at the bottom of the sea, left there by the Russian and German armies in the 1940s. About 70 of these mines, each filled with 300 kg of explosive charge, sit in the pipeline's path, mostly in its northern section just south of Finland. And so the company contracted to remove the mines is bringing in robots to do the dirty work. Here's how it will work: A research ship deploys the robot to the seabed, where it identifies the exact location of the explosive. After sounding a warning to surrounding ship traffic, scaring fish away using a small explosive, and then emitting a 'seal screamer' of high intensity noises designed to make the area around the blast quite uncomfortable for marine mammals, Bactec's engineers erupt a 5 kg blast, forcing the mine to detonate. This process ensures the safety of humans plus any animals living in the surrounding environment. The operation concludes with the robot being redeployed to clear up the scrap of the now-destroyed bomb."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " A Russian company is building a massive natural gas pipeline that will run across the Baltic Sea floor .
But first , they must clear some of the 150,000 unexploded bombs sitting at the bottom of the sea , left there by the Russian and German armies in the 1940s .
About 70 of these mines , each filled with 300 kg of explosive charge , sit in the pipeline 's path , mostly in its northern section just south of Finland .
And so the company contracted to remove the mines is bringing in robots to do the dirty work .
Here 's how it will work : A research ship deploys the robot to the seabed , where it identifies the exact location of the explosive .
After sounding a warning to surrounding ship traffic , scaring fish away using a small explosive , and then emitting a 'seal screamer ' of high intensity noises designed to make the area around the blast quite uncomfortable for marine mammals , Bactec 's engineers erupt a 5 kg blast , forcing the mine to detonate .
This process ensures the safety of humans plus any animals living in the surrounding environment .
The operation concludes with the robot being redeployed to clear up the scrap of the now-destroyed bomb .
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<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "A Russian company is building a massive natural gas pipeline that will run across the Baltic Sea floor.
But first, they must clear some of the 150,000 unexploded bombs sitting at the bottom of the sea, left there by the Russian and German armies in the 1940s.
About 70 of these mines, each filled with 300 kg of explosive charge, sit in the pipeline's path, mostly in its northern section just south of Finland.
And so the company contracted to remove the mines is bringing in robots to do the dirty work.
Here's how it will work: A research ship deploys the robot to the seabed, where it identifies the exact location of the explosive.
After sounding a warning to surrounding ship traffic, scaring fish away using a small explosive, and then emitting a 'seal screamer' of high intensity noises designed to make the area around the blast quite uncomfortable for marine mammals, Bactec's engineers erupt a 5 kg blast, forcing the mine to detonate.
This process ensures the safety of humans plus any animals living in the surrounding environment.
The operation concludes with the robot being redeployed to clear up the scrap of the now-destroyed bomb.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161956</id>
	<title>And the traditional Russian Reversal</title>
	<author>Xamusk</author>
	<datestamp>1266323160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Soviet Russia, robots clear mines for YOU!
</p><p>
Oh, wait, where's the reverse part again?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia , robots clear mines for YOU !
Oh , wait , where 's the reverse part again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia, robots clear mines for YOU!
Oh, wait, where's the reverse part again?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160568</id>
	<title>Mines are cheap and effective.</title>
	<author>maillemaker</author>
	<datestamp>1266316440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;Was mining the sea a shortsighted endeavor that ultimately caused more harm than what was being prevented (invasion)?</p><p>Mines were, and continue to be, cheap and effective area denial weapons.</p><p>When used at sea, they ensnare the unwary, and, once the position of the minefield becomes known to your enemy, diverts enemy traffic into places more convenient for you.</p><p>This has been sufficient justification for their use for about a hundred years or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Was mining the sea a shortsighted endeavor that ultimately caused more harm than what was being prevented ( invasion ) ? Mines were , and continue to be , cheap and effective area denial weapons.When used at sea , they ensnare the unwary , and , once the position of the minefield becomes known to your enemy , diverts enemy traffic into places more convenient for you.This has been sufficient justification for their use for about a hundred years or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;Was mining the sea a shortsighted endeavor that ultimately caused more harm than what was being prevented (invasion)?Mines were, and continue to be, cheap and effective area denial weapons.When used at sea, they ensnare the unwary, and, once the position of the minefield becomes known to your enemy, diverts enemy traffic into places more convenient for you.This has been sufficient justification for their use for about a hundred years or so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160166</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266314520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Plants?  WTF?!  This is the bottom of the Baltic Sea, south of Finland, not a shallow coral reef in the Caribbean.  There's no plants down there.</p><p>There's some very beautiful parts of the ocean, places where scuba divers and snorklers like to visit to see the pretty fish, coral, and underwater plants.  The Baltic Sea is not one of these places.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Plants ?
WTF ? ! This is the bottom of the Baltic Sea , south of Finland , not a shallow coral reef in the Caribbean .
There 's no plants down there.There 's some very beautiful parts of the ocean , places where scuba divers and snorklers like to visit to see the pretty fish , coral , and underwater plants .
The Baltic Sea is not one of these places .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plants?
WTF?!  This is the bottom of the Baltic Sea, south of Finland, not a shallow coral reef in the Caribbean.
There's no plants down there.There's some very beautiful parts of the ocean, places where scuba divers and snorklers like to visit to see the pretty fish, coral, and underwater plants.
The Baltic Sea is not one of these places.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160960</id>
	<title>Define "clear up"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266318300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The operation concludes with the robot being redeployed to clear up the scrap of the now-destroyed bomb.</p></div><p>Anybody else find this conclusion suspect?<br>As we all know, their budget will be consumed before this happens. Or they will preform some token act which qualifies as "clear up".<br>I'm not an environmentalist, just a realist that knows it will be lot easier to smash them up than it is to pick up all those remaining pieces afterwards.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The operation concludes with the robot being redeployed to clear up the scrap of the now-destroyed bomb.Anybody else find this conclusion suspect ? As we all know , their budget will be consumed before this happens .
Or they will preform some token act which qualifies as " clear up " .I 'm not an environmentalist , just a realist that knows it will be lot easier to smash them up than it is to pick up all those remaining pieces afterwards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The operation concludes with the robot being redeployed to clear up the scrap of the now-destroyed bomb.Anybody else find this conclusion suspect?As we all know, their budget will be consumed before this happens.
Or they will preform some token act which qualifies as "clear up".I'm not an environmentalist, just a realist that knows it will be lot easier to smash them up than it is to pick up all those remaining pieces afterwards.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161492</id>
	<title>So will they be fishing for manganese nodules</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1266320640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>while they're at it?</p><p>Seriously, any kind of major underwater operation by a government has to be suspected as a cover story for developing, testing or *using* some kind of spook gear.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>while they 're at it ? Seriously , any kind of major underwater operation by a government has to be suspected as a cover story for developing , testing or * using * some kind of spook gear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>while they're at it?Seriously, any kind of major underwater operation by a government has to be suspected as a cover story for developing, testing or *using* some kind of spook gear.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159936</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266313620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Plants in Baltic sea??? Oh came on it is most polluted ocean in the World.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Plants in Baltic sea ? ? ?
Oh came on it is most polluted ocean in the World .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plants in Baltic sea???
Oh came on it is most polluted ocean in the World.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160390</id>
	<title>Re:Gotta wonder...</title>
	<author>Wyatt Earp</author>
	<datestamp>1266315540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We (the US) has a really good idea of how many nukes they've lost.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_military\_nuclear\_accidents" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_military\_nuclear\_accidents</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Airplanes that were lost they recovered, and because they didn't want the Soviets getting them, they put alot of effort into getting lost devices.</p><p>March 10, 1956 &ndash; Over the Mediterranean Sea &ndash; nuclear weapons lost - 2 lost<br>July 28, 1957 &ndash; Atlantic Ocean &ndash; Two weapons jettisoned and not recovered - 2 lost<br>February 5, 1958 &ndash; Savannah, Georgia, USA &ndash; Nuclear bomb lost - 1 lost<br>January 24, 1961 &ndash; Goldsboro B-52 crash &ndash; Physical destruction of a nuclear bomb, loss of nuclear materials - 1 lost<br>December 5, 1965 &ndash; coast of Japan &ndash; Loss of a nuclear bomb - 1 lost<br>January 21, 1968 &ndash; 1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash, Greenland &ndash; Loss and partial recovery of nuclear bombs - 1 lost<br>May 22, 1968 &ndash; 740 km (400 nmi) southwest of the Azores &ndash; Loss of nuclear reactor and two W34 nuclear warheads - The USS Scorpion (SSN-589) - 2 lost</p><p>Those would be - Pinnacle - Broken Arrow or Pinnacle - Emergency Disablement events</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We ( the US ) has a really good idea of how many nukes they 've lost.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List \ _of \ _military \ _nuclear \ _accidents [ wikipedia.org ] Airplanes that were lost they recovered , and because they did n't want the Soviets getting them , they put alot of effort into getting lost devices.March 10 , 1956    Over the Mediterranean Sea    nuclear weapons lost - 2 lostJuly 28 , 1957    Atlantic Ocean    Two weapons jettisoned and not recovered - 2 lostFebruary 5 , 1958    Savannah , Georgia , USA    Nuclear bomb lost - 1 lostJanuary 24 , 1961    Goldsboro B-52 crash    Physical destruction of a nuclear bomb , loss of nuclear materials - 1 lostDecember 5 , 1965    coast of Japan    Loss of a nuclear bomb - 1 lostJanuary 21 , 1968    1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash , Greenland    Loss and partial recovery of nuclear bombs - 1 lostMay 22 , 1968    740 km ( 400 nmi ) southwest of the Azores    Loss of nuclear reactor and two W34 nuclear warheads - The USS Scorpion ( SSN-589 ) - 2 lostThose would be - Pinnacle - Broken Arrow or Pinnacle - Emergency Disablement events</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We (the US) has a really good idea of how many nukes they've lost.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_military\_nuclear\_accidents [wikipedia.org]Airplanes that were lost they recovered, and because they didn't want the Soviets getting them, they put alot of effort into getting lost devices.March 10, 1956 – Over the Mediterranean Sea – nuclear weapons lost - 2 lostJuly 28, 1957 – Atlantic Ocean – Two weapons jettisoned and not recovered - 2 lostFebruary 5, 1958 – Savannah, Georgia, USA – Nuclear bomb lost - 1 lostJanuary 24, 1961 – Goldsboro B-52 crash – Physical destruction of a nuclear bomb, loss of nuclear materials - 1 lostDecember 5, 1965 – coast of Japan – Loss of a nuclear bomb - 1 lostJanuary 21, 1968 – 1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash, Greenland – Loss and partial recovery of nuclear bombs - 1 lostMay 22, 1968 – 740 km (400 nmi) southwest of the Azores – Loss of nuclear reactor and two W34 nuclear warheads - The USS Scorpion (SSN-589) - 2 lostThose would be - Pinnacle - Broken Arrow or Pinnacle - Emergency Disablement events</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160030</id>
	<title>Neat</title>
	<author>ShooterNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1266314040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The interesting part is that the de-mining process starts with the assumption that all of these mines will still detonate.  Wonder what kind of explosive is that reliable.</p><p>Hopefully, the actual fusing and ship detecting 'sensors' on the mine (not sure what else to call the big mechanical and magnetic switches mines of this vintage use) no longer work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The interesting part is that the de-mining process starts with the assumption that all of these mines will still detonate .
Wonder what kind of explosive is that reliable.Hopefully , the actual fusing and ship detecting 'sensors ' on the mine ( not sure what else to call the big mechanical and magnetic switches mines of this vintage use ) no longer work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The interesting part is that the de-mining process starts with the assumption that all of these mines will still detonate.
Wonder what kind of explosive is that reliable.Hopefully, the actual fusing and ship detecting 'sensors' on the mine (not sure what else to call the big mechanical and magnetic switches mines of this vintage use) no longer work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160756</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Reece400</author>
	<datestamp>1266317340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, just when you think Peta can't get any more ridiculous.... That website made my day, thank you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , just when you think Peta ca n't get any more ridiculous.... That website made my day , thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, just when you think Peta can't get any more ridiculous.... That website made my day, thank you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31165774</id>
	<title>Re:Origin of Mines?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266348480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time, or were they intended to get subs?</i></p><p>Most of them were surface mines that were sunk after the war. The Gulf of Finland was the heaviest mined sea area of the whole WWII and there were oodles and oodles of mines. After the war it was decided that the safest way to clear the mines was to first cut off their anchor chains so that they rose to the surface and then shoot at them with rifles from safe distance. Some of the mines exploded but most of them just got holes and sunk to the bottom.</p><p>Several dozens of Finns died in explosions when disarming mines before they started the rifle shooting trick. Soviets had probably similar losses in the areas that they sweeped.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time , or were they intended to get subs ? Most of them were surface mines that were sunk after the war .
The Gulf of Finland was the heaviest mined sea area of the whole WWII and there were oodles and oodles of mines .
After the war it was decided that the safest way to clear the mines was to first cut off their anchor chains so that they rose to the surface and then shoot at them with rifles from safe distance .
Some of the mines exploded but most of them just got holes and sunk to the bottom.Several dozens of Finns died in explosions when disarming mines before they started the rifle shooting trick .
Soviets had probably similar losses in the areas that they sweeped .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time, or were they intended to get subs?Most of them were surface mines that were sunk after the war.
The Gulf of Finland was the heaviest mined sea area of the whole WWII and there were oodles and oodles of mines.
After the war it was decided that the safest way to clear the mines was to first cut off their anchor chains so that they rose to the surface and then shoot at them with rifles from safe distance.
Some of the mines exploded but most of them just got holes and sunk to the bottom.Several dozens of Finns died in explosions when disarming mines before they started the rifle shooting trick.
Soviets had probably similar losses in the areas that they sweeped.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31162100</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Drishmung</author>
	<datestamp>1266323820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Great Cthulhu is invertebrate, no? Hmm... are we <b>really</b> sure about this explosion thing?

Ia! Ia! Fhtagn!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Great Cthulhu is invertebrate , no ?
Hmm... are we really sure about this explosion thing ?
Ia ! Ia !
Fhtagn !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great Cthulhu is invertebrate, no?
Hmm... are we really sure about this explosion thing?
Ia! Ia!
Fhtagn!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161744</id>
	<title>What about the</title>
	<author>Bug-Y2K</author>
	<datestamp>1266321900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about the crabs, starfish, clams, and other slow or non-movers that inhabit the seafloor?</p><p>Poor things will be made into sushi!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the crabs , starfish , clams , and other slow or non-movers that inhabit the seafloor ? Poor things will be made into sushi !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the crabs, starfish, clams, and other slow or non-movers that inhabit the seafloor?Poor things will be made into sushi!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160448</id>
	<title>oh, "mines" not "mimes"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266315780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For a minute I read your post as this:</p><blockquote><div><p>One day robots will use humans to dispose of <b>mimes</b>...won't be so funny then...</p></div></blockquote><p>and I was going to vehemently disagree.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For a minute I read your post as this : One day robots will use humans to dispose of mimes...wo n't be so funny then...and I was going to vehemently disagree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a minute I read your post as this:One day robots will use humans to dispose of mimes...won't be so funny then...and I was going to vehemently disagree.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160342</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Sloppy</author>
	<datestamp>1266315240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you suggesting that the mines not be placed where they are?  Very well.  I'll call a meeting with Hitler and Stalin and see if we can get this un-done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you suggesting that the mines not be placed where they are ?
Very well .
I 'll call a meeting with Hitler and Stalin and see if we can get this un-done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you suggesting that the mines not be placed where they are?
Very well.
I'll call a meeting with Hitler and Stalin and see if we can get this un-done.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31170800</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1265045520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'm no munitions expert, but if I were to design a mine that was going to go into saltwater I might also select a material that is somewhat resistant to saltwater.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Are you one of those evil geniuses?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm no munitions expert , but if I were to design a mine that was going to go into saltwater I might also select a material that is somewhat resistant to saltwater .
Are you one of those evil geniuses ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm no munitions expert, but if I were to design a mine that was going to go into saltwater I might also select a material that is somewhat resistant to saltwater.
Are you one of those evil geniuses?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161504</id>
	<title>Depends on who dumped them down there perhaps?</title>
	<author>fantomas</author>
	<datestamp>1266320700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depends on who put them there perhaps? Many nations just dumped left over explosives after wars at sea, the Irish Sea is full of ships that were loaded with explosives, grenades, etc, just towed out and sunk. Have a read of <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CAcQFjAA&amp;url=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.mod.uk\%2FNR\%2Frdonlyres\%2F77CEDBCA-813A-4A6C-8E59-16B9E260E27A\%2F0\%2Fic\_munitions\_seabed\_rep.pdf&amp;rct=j&amp;q=hand+grenades+washed+up+from+Irish+Sea&amp;ei=yh57S4XRK5Tu0gSs16mhCQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNGuPBOYteplSR4xzMYCsp3vXh66sg" title="google.co.uk">"Munitions Dumped at Sea: A Literature Review"</a> [google.co.uk] for example.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on who put them there perhaps ?
Many nations just dumped left over explosives after wars at sea , the Irish Sea is full of ships that were loaded with explosives , grenades , etc , just towed out and sunk .
Have a read of " Munitions Dumped at Sea : A Literature Review " [ google.co.uk ] for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on who put them there perhaps?
Many nations just dumped left over explosives after wars at sea, the Irish Sea is full of ships that were loaded with explosives, grenades, etc, just towed out and sunk.
Have a read of "Munitions Dumped at Sea: A Literature Review" [google.co.uk] for example.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160272</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1266314940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Depends on the design and the filling. A thin steel shell would, indeed, probably have rusted, unless that particular patch of ocean is especially oxygen poor. With the right naval paint and a bit of luck, though, survival would certainly be possible.<br> <br>

Also, it is quite possible that the explosive agent in a fair few of these mines is Amatol. Because that stuff was hygroscopic, it was often given some sort of waterproof coating even if it was intended for land use, just so that it wouldn't go dud in storage. A basic coating of Bitumen could stand against seawater for quite a while, preserving the lump of possibly touchy explosive material even if the mine casing has been breached. Some of the period contact detonators, constructed largely of glass and lead, might also surive surprisingly well...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on the design and the filling .
A thin steel shell would , indeed , probably have rusted , unless that particular patch of ocean is especially oxygen poor .
With the right naval paint and a bit of luck , though , survival would certainly be possible .
Also , it is quite possible that the explosive agent in a fair few of these mines is Amatol .
Because that stuff was hygroscopic , it was often given some sort of waterproof coating even if it was intended for land use , just so that it would n't go dud in storage .
A basic coating of Bitumen could stand against seawater for quite a while , preserving the lump of possibly touchy explosive material even if the mine casing has been breached .
Some of the period contact detonators , constructed largely of glass and lead , might also surive surprisingly well.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on the design and the filling.
A thin steel shell would, indeed, probably have rusted, unless that particular patch of ocean is especially oxygen poor.
With the right naval paint and a bit of luck, though, survival would certainly be possible.
Also, it is quite possible that the explosive agent in a fair few of these mines is Amatol.
Because that stuff was hygroscopic, it was often given some sort of waterproof coating even if it was intended for land use, just so that it wouldn't go dud in storage.
A basic coating of Bitumen could stand against seawater for quite a while, preserving the lump of possibly touchy explosive material even if the mine casing has been breached.
Some of the period contact detonators, constructed largely of glass and lead, might also surive surprisingly well...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160522</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266316260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WTF?  I just went to that page.  Are they trying to save fictional animals now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF ?
I just went to that page .
Are they trying to save fictional animals now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF?
I just went to that page.
Are they trying to save fictional animals now?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160376</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>rahst12</author>
	<datestamp>1266315480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>They sure don't make things like they used too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They sure do n't make things like they used too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They sure don't make things like they used too.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160942</id>
	<title>Re:150,000 mines</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1266318180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because it's being funded as prep work for a natural gas pipeline, and only 70 of them are deemed to be a threat to that pipeline.</p><p>As much as I'd love to see the specific company funding this pipeline be a good citizen and set off the other 149,930, it's just not their responsibility.</p><p>Maybe if this technology works out, the Russian government will decide to fund further clearing.  And maybe I'll develop emergence of avionic simians out of my butt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because it 's being funded as prep work for a natural gas pipeline , and only 70 of them are deemed to be a threat to that pipeline.As much as I 'd love to see the specific company funding this pipeline be a good citizen and set off the other 149,930 , it 's just not their responsibility.Maybe if this technology works out , the Russian government will decide to fund further clearing .
And maybe I 'll develop emergence of avionic simians out of my butt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because it's being funded as prep work for a natural gas pipeline, and only 70 of them are deemed to be a threat to that pipeline.As much as I'd love to see the specific company funding this pipeline be a good citizen and set off the other 149,930, it's just not their responsibility.Maybe if this technology works out, the Russian government will decide to fund further clearing.
And maybe I'll develop emergence of avionic simians out of my butt.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160086</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266314220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One would think that after sitting at the bottom of the salty ocean for 60+ years it's shell would have rusted through and the explosives saturated with water. if those mines are really still good then they are remarkably well engineered</p></div><p>Maybe they are German mines.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One would think that after sitting at the bottom of the salty ocean for 60 + years it 's shell would have rusted through and the explosives saturated with water .
if those mines are really still good then they are remarkably well engineeredMaybe they are German mines .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One would think that after sitting at the bottom of the salty ocean for 60+ years it's shell would have rusted through and the explosives saturated with water.
if those mines are really still good then they are remarkably well engineeredMaybe they are German mines.
:P
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160966</id>
	<title>Re:landmines</title>
	<author>Bobfrankly1</author>
	<datestamp>1266318300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If only it was so profitable to remove landmines and stop them from performing their gruesome task.</p></div><p>Yes, but all attempts to get the landmine unions to strike have failed explosively.</p></div>
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<tokenext>If only it was so profitable to remove landmines and stop them from performing their gruesome task.Yes , but all attempts to get the landmine unions to strike have failed explosively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only it was so profitable to remove landmines and stop them from performing their gruesome task.Yes, but all attempts to get the landmine unions to strike have failed explosively.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160214</id>
	<title>The real process...</title>
	<author>HikingStick</author>
	<datestamp>1266314760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><ol>
<li>Remote vehicle finds mine(s)</li>
<li>Remote vehicle initiates measures to sacre off most sea creatures</li>
<li>Modest explosive charge is used to detonate mine</li>
<li> <b>Local fisherman patrol the area, scooping up tons of stunned fish</b></li>
<li> <b> <i>Local fish markets thrive (for about a week)!</i> </b></li> </ol></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remote vehicle finds mine ( s ) Remote vehicle initiates measures to sacre off most sea creatures Modest explosive charge is used to detonate mine Local fisherman patrol the area , scooping up tons of stunned fish Local fish markets thrive ( for about a week ) !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Remote vehicle finds mine(s)
Remote vehicle initiates measures to sacre off most sea creatures
Modest explosive charge is used to detonate mine
 Local fisherman patrol the area, scooping up tons of stunned fish
  Local fish markets thrive (for about a week)!  </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160016</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1266313920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get more fertile soil to grow in, more plant nutrients floating around, clear spots of ground to invade to.</p><p>I really don't see a downside for the plants, its not like they are being lit on fire.  We've been using fertilizer as explosives for a long time, this really could help the plants.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get more fertile soil to grow in , more plant nutrients floating around , clear spots of ground to invade to.I really do n't see a downside for the plants , its not like they are being lit on fire .
We 've been using fertilizer as explosives for a long time , this really could help the plants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get more fertile soil to grow in, more plant nutrients floating around, clear spots of ground to invade to.I really don't see a downside for the plants, its not like they are being lit on fire.
We've been using fertilizer as explosives for a long time, this really could help the plants.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160096</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266314280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or just farm out the job to <a href="http://www.peta.org/sea\_kittens" title="peta.org">PETA</a> [peta.org] they seem to have that angle covered.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or just farm out the job to PETA [ peta.org ] they seem to have that angle covered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or just farm out the job to PETA [peta.org] they seem to have that angle covered.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31166104</id>
	<title>Re:Who would oppose this?</title>
	<author>MartinSchou</author>
	<datestamp>1265056140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Just touching nitro dynamite gives an amazing headache</p></div></blockquote><p>That's commonly referred to as bang-head I believe. It's a side effect of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroglycerine#Side\_effects" title="wikipedia.org">nitroglycerine</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><blockquote><div><p>Pest control was not an issue in the bunkers, as far as I know, aside from termites in the crates.</p></div></blockquote><p>Not so much for modern explosives, but in the old days of gun powder, fire ants were a real danger<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just touching nitro dynamite gives an amazing headacheThat 's commonly referred to as bang-head I believe .
It 's a side effect of the nitroglycerine [ wikipedia.org ] .Pest control was not an issue in the bunkers , as far as I know , aside from termites in the crates.Not so much for modern explosives , but in the old days of gun powder , fire ants were a real danger ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just touching nitro dynamite gives an amazing headacheThat's commonly referred to as bang-head I believe.
It's a side effect of the nitroglycerine [wikipedia.org].Pest control was not an issue in the bunkers, as far as I know, aside from termites in the crates.Not so much for modern explosives, but in the old days of gun powder, fire ants were a real danger ;)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160804</id>
	<title>Re:Shortsighted or failure to complete the job?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266317520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>was the outcome of the war so pivotal to the course of human existance</p></div><p>The European theater of WW2? That was a pretty big one.  Think about it: British Empire begins to collapse - in fact, European empires in general begin to collapse; the Germans rape and murder their way from Prussia to Stalingrad, after which the Soviets rape and murder their way back to Berlin, setting the stage for the Cold War; the Americans make out like gangbusters as they sell staggering quantities of materiel to the Brits and Soviets.</p></div>
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<tokenext>was the outcome of the war so pivotal to the course of human existanceThe European theater of WW2 ?
That was a pretty big one .
Think about it : British Empire begins to collapse - in fact , European empires in general begin to collapse ; the Germans rape and murder their way from Prussia to Stalingrad , after which the Soviets rape and murder their way back to Berlin , setting the stage for the Cold War ; the Americans make out like gangbusters as they sell staggering quantities of materiel to the Brits and Soviets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>was the outcome of the war so pivotal to the course of human existanceThe European theater of WW2?
That was a pretty big one.
Think about it: British Empire begins to collapse - in fact, European empires in general begin to collapse; the Germans rape and murder their way from Prussia to Stalingrad, after which the Soviets rape and murder their way back to Berlin, setting the stage for the Cold War; the Americans make out like gangbusters as they sell staggering quantities of materiel to the Brits and Soviets.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159914</id>
	<title>Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266313560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One would think that after sitting at the bottom of the salty ocean for 60+ years it's shell would have rusted through and the explosives saturated with water. if those mines are really still good then they are remarkably well engineered</htmltext>
<tokenext>One would think that after sitting at the bottom of the salty ocean for 60 + years it 's shell would have rusted through and the explosives saturated with water .
if those mines are really still good then they are remarkably well engineered</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One would think that after sitting at the bottom of the salty ocean for 60+ years it's shell would have rusted through and the explosives saturated with water.
if those mines are really still good then they are remarkably well engineered</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:what about the corals</title>
	<author>gurudyne</author>
	<datestamp>1266314040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And just what kind of reefs grow in brackish waters that freeze over in the winter?</p><p>Certainly, there aren't any corals in the region, except for hotels.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And just what kind of reefs grow in brackish waters that freeze over in the winter ? Certainly , there are n't any corals in the region , except for hotels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And just what kind of reefs grow in brackish waters that freeze over in the winter?Certainly, there aren't any corals in the region, except for hotels.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31167890</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>KDR\_11k</author>
	<datestamp>1265033940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since when are corals plants?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when are corals plants ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when are corals plants?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160578</id>
	<title>Re:DISCRIMINATION!</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1266316560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nah, it's just the usual The Man keeping down...The Man.</p><p>Look at the map of current and planned gas pipelines: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Major\_russian\_gas\_pipelines\_to\_europe.png" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Major\_russian\_gas\_pipelines\_to\_europe.png</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Russia just goes into some trouble of building that pipeline so that their former colonies will be reminded of few things, will drop some weird ideas they got in the last two decades.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah , it 's just the usual The Man keeping down...The Man.Look at the map of current and planned gas pipelines : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File : Major \ _russian \ _gas \ _pipelines \ _to \ _europe.png [ wikipedia.org ] Russia just goes into some trouble of building that pipeline so that their former colonies will be reminded of few things , will drop some weird ideas they got in the last two decades .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah, it's just the usual The Man keeping down...The Man.Look at the map of current and planned gas pipelines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Major\_russian\_gas\_pipelines\_to\_europe.png [wikipedia.org]Russia just goes into some trouble of building that pipeline so that their former colonies will be reminded of few things, will drop some weird ideas they got in the last two decades.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160642</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1266316860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm no munitions expert, but if I were to design a mine that was going to go into saltwater I might also select a material that is somewhat resistant to saltwater.  PVC, polystyrene, bakelite, teflon, and polyurethane come to mind, and all were around before WWII.  Heck, even stainless steel was around, albeit probably too expensive for the Russian military at the time.  I wouldn't necessarily expect it to last 60 years, but if I designed it to be even minimally saltwater-resistant it's not outside the realm of possibility that one might survive that long.  The odds are against it, but it's not impossible.</p><p>So you go with the odds, and relative levels of damage involved.  This is prepwork for a very expensive natural gas pipeline, and I doubt it really accounts for a significant portion of the overall expense.</p><p>If no bombs are viable, then the project has spent some money unnecessarily and set off a series of 5kg (~11-pound) explosives and not done any real harm to the surrounding environment except for a bunch of little areas that are about to get a LNG pipeline plumbed through anyway.</p><p>If just one of those bombs is live and goes off when natural gas is flowing through the LNG pipeline they want to build, that could be very devastating over a very large area.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm no munitions expert , but if I were to design a mine that was going to go into saltwater I might also select a material that is somewhat resistant to saltwater .
PVC , polystyrene , bakelite , teflon , and polyurethane come to mind , and all were around before WWII .
Heck , even stainless steel was around , albeit probably too expensive for the Russian military at the time .
I would n't necessarily expect it to last 60 years , but if I designed it to be even minimally saltwater-resistant it 's not outside the realm of possibility that one might survive that long .
The odds are against it , but it 's not impossible.So you go with the odds , and relative levels of damage involved .
This is prepwork for a very expensive natural gas pipeline , and I doubt it really accounts for a significant portion of the overall expense.If no bombs are viable , then the project has spent some money unnecessarily and set off a series of 5kg ( ~ 11-pound ) explosives and not done any real harm to the surrounding environment except for a bunch of little areas that are about to get a LNG pipeline plumbed through anyway.If just one of those bombs is live and goes off when natural gas is flowing through the LNG pipeline they want to build , that could be very devastating over a very large area .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm no munitions expert, but if I were to design a mine that was going to go into saltwater I might also select a material that is somewhat resistant to saltwater.
PVC, polystyrene, bakelite, teflon, and polyurethane come to mind, and all were around before WWII.
Heck, even stainless steel was around, albeit probably too expensive for the Russian military at the time.
I wouldn't necessarily expect it to last 60 years, but if I designed it to be even minimally saltwater-resistant it's not outside the realm of possibility that one might survive that long.
The odds are against it, but it's not impossible.So you go with the odds, and relative levels of damage involved.
This is prepwork for a very expensive natural gas pipeline, and I doubt it really accounts for a significant portion of the overall expense.If no bombs are viable, then the project has spent some money unnecessarily and set off a series of 5kg (~11-pound) explosives and not done any real harm to the surrounding environment except for a bunch of little areas that are about to get a LNG pipeline plumbed through anyway.If just one of those bombs is live and goes off when natural gas is flowing through the LNG pipeline they want to build, that could be very devastating over a very large area.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160176</id>
	<title>Re:Who would oppose this?</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1266314520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What don't environmentalists oppose?</p><p>I think the only thing they can all agree on is More Funding!!</p><p>There are the environmentalists that oppose everything and give no answers as to what we should do, those ones suck.</p><p>Then there are the environmentalists that look at a problem and see a solution, these aren't environmentalists, they're engineers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What do n't environmentalists oppose ? I think the only thing they can all agree on is More Funding !
! There are the environmentalists that oppose everything and give no answers as to what we should do , those ones suck.Then there are the environmentalists that look at a problem and see a solution , these are n't environmentalists , they 're engineers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What don't environmentalists oppose?I think the only thing they can all agree on is More Funding!
!There are the environmentalists that oppose everything and give no answers as to what we should do, those ones suck.Then there are the environmentalists that look at a problem and see a solution, these aren't environmentalists, they're engineers.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Neat</title>
	<author>Ihlosi</author>
	<datestamp>1265017260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Explosives Disposal 101: Always assume an explosive device is functional, armed, and active.</i> </p><p>With unexploded ordinance from god-knows-when it's even worse, since it will be deteriorated and possibly even more dangerous than a functional, armed and active explosive device fresh from the factory.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Explosives Disposal 101 : Always assume an explosive device is functional , armed , and active .
With unexploded ordinance from god-knows-when it 's even worse , since it will be deteriorated and possibly even more dangerous than a functional , armed and active explosive device fresh from the factory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Explosives Disposal 101: Always assume an explosive device is functional, armed, and active.
With unexploded ordinance from god-knows-when it's even worse, since it will be deteriorated and possibly even more dangerous than a functional, armed and active explosive device fresh from the factory.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31170628</id>
	<title>Re:Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1265044920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The cheapest, fastest, and safest way is to just blow them all up.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
And let God sort them out.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The cheapest , fastest , and safest way is to just blow them all up .
And let God sort them out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cheapest, fastest, and safest way is to just blow them all up.
And let God sort them out.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160948</id>
	<title>No robots here.</title>
	<author>notea42</author>
	<datestamp>1266318240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This would be a lot more interesting if it was actual autonomous vehicles.  The article makes this sound like the same old human-labor intensive process, just by a tethered remote vehicle.  It seems like a well designed set of robots would be capable of finding, identifying, and destroying the mines with minimal supervision.  You could run a mothership to supply power and fresh explosives.  A bit of effort could clean up ALL the mines in the area, not just the few that happen to be in the way of this particular pipeline.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This would be a lot more interesting if it was actual autonomous vehicles .
The article makes this sound like the same old human-labor intensive process , just by a tethered remote vehicle .
It seems like a well designed set of robots would be capable of finding , identifying , and destroying the mines with minimal supervision .
You could run a mothership to supply power and fresh explosives .
A bit of effort could clean up ALL the mines in the area , not just the few that happen to be in the way of this particular pipeline .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would be a lot more interesting if it was actual autonomous vehicles.
The article makes this sound like the same old human-labor intensive process, just by a tethered remote vehicle.
It seems like a well designed set of robots would be capable of finding, identifying, and destroying the mines with minimal supervision.
You could run a mothership to supply power and fresh explosives.
A bit of effort could clean up ALL the mines in the area, not just the few that happen to be in the way of this particular pipeline.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160104</id>
	<title>Robots and explosives, what could go wrong?</title>
	<author>RichMan</author>
	<datestamp>1266314280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course I expect it is not actually robots but rather remote controlled vehicles.</p><p>While the article does not state it the graphics clearly shows ROV. Remote Operated Vehicle.</p><p>No robots here. Please move on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course I expect it is not actually robots but rather remote controlled vehicles.While the article does not state it the graphics clearly shows ROV .
Remote Operated Vehicle.No robots here .
Please move on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course I expect it is not actually robots but rather remote controlled vehicles.While the article does not state it the graphics clearly shows ROV.
Remote Operated Vehicle.No robots here.
Please move on.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161180</id>
	<title>Under water hearing aides.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266319140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Something for the PETA people to demand!  Go get'em guys and gals!  Yah!</p><p>Okay...  I am calming down now..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Something for the PETA people to demand !
Go get'em guys and gals !
Yah ! Okay... I am calming down now. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something for the PETA people to demand!
Go get'em guys and gals!
Yah!Okay...  I am calming down now..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159850</id>
	<title>Save everything that can move away fast enough?..</title>
	<author>rahst12</author>
	<datestamp>1266313260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So scare everything away that can move fast enough.. then detonate a 5kg bomb, which detonates a larger 300 kg bomb...  What about the plants? and stuff that can't move away fast enough?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So scare everything away that can move fast enough.. then detonate a 5kg bomb , which detonates a larger 300 kg bomb... What about the plants ?
and stuff that ca n't move away fast enough ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So scare everything away that can move fast enough.. then detonate a 5kg bomb, which detonates a larger 300 kg bomb...  What about the plants?
and stuff that can't move away fast enough?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159942</id>
	<title>Re:Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266313680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uh.... If the mines don't explode when you blow up 5kg of TNT (or equivalent) right next to them, what exactly is the problem?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh.... If the mines do n't explode when you blow up 5kg of TNT ( or equivalent ) right next to them , what exactly is the problem ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh.... If the mines don't explode when you blow up 5kg of TNT (or equivalent) right next to them, what exactly is the problem?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160420</id>
	<title>Re:what about the corals</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1266315720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Coral reef ends at about 40 meters or so.  I don't think anywhere on the Baltic Sea floor would qualify as prime coral reef territory for a large number of reasons, but depth is the first and most immediate that comes to mind.</p><p>And let's think about this for a second.  They are doing the "boom-boom" thing to eliminate the bombs to make room for a natural gas pipeline.   You might as well complain that the local contractor is using a weed-whacker to clear pretty flowers before he starts leveling the ground with a bulldozer.  The amount of damage caused by these bombs going off is nothing compared to what's going to happen when the pipeline goes in.</p><p>And if you skip the mine-clearing step, just wait till the first mine goes off and releases a few million gallons of natural gas into the surrounding environment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Coral reef ends at about 40 meters or so .
I do n't think anywhere on the Baltic Sea floor would qualify as prime coral reef territory for a large number of reasons , but depth is the first and most immediate that comes to mind.And let 's think about this for a second .
They are doing the " boom-boom " thing to eliminate the bombs to make room for a natural gas pipeline .
You might as well complain that the local contractor is using a weed-whacker to clear pretty flowers before he starts leveling the ground with a bulldozer .
The amount of damage caused by these bombs going off is nothing compared to what 's going to happen when the pipeline goes in.And if you skip the mine-clearing step , just wait till the first mine goes off and releases a few million gallons of natural gas into the surrounding environment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coral reef ends at about 40 meters or so.
I don't think anywhere on the Baltic Sea floor would qualify as prime coral reef territory for a large number of reasons, but depth is the first and most immediate that comes to mind.And let's think about this for a second.
They are doing the "boom-boom" thing to eliminate the bombs to make room for a natural gas pipeline.
You might as well complain that the local contractor is using a weed-whacker to clear pretty flowers before he starts leveling the ground with a bulldozer.
The amount of damage caused by these bombs going off is nothing compared to what's going to happen when the pipeline goes in.And if you skip the mine-clearing step, just wait till the first mine goes off and releases a few million gallons of natural gas into the surrounding environment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31165178</id>
	<title>Re:DISCRIMINATION!</title>
	<author>Ihmhi</author>
	<datestamp>1266344100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah man, look at this shit! They say they've got humans, fish, and animals covered, but what about the algae? <em>What about the algae?!</em> </p><p> <strong>&lt;HelenLovejoy&gt;</strong> Oh, won't someone <em>please</em> think of the algae?! <strong>&lt;/HelenLovejoy&gt;</strong> </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah man , look at this shit !
They say they 've got humans , fish , and animals covered , but what about the algae ?
What about the algae ? !
Oh , wo n't someone please think of the algae ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah man, look at this shit!
They say they've got humans, fish, and animals covered, but what about the algae?
What about the algae?!
Oh, won't someone please think of the algae?
!  </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159768</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160064</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>rarel</author>
	<datestamp>1266314160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>But opposition to the detonation of the sea floor was fierce in some quarters, particularly from hyper-intelligent crabs and designers of algae, with crustaceans also appearing troubled by the decision. Many urged that the seafloor be moved to "underground seafloor" status instead of being wiped out of the ocean altogether. Also protesting are the people of sharks, who feel that though they thought seafloor-bombing is a racist activity, that it is ironically a form of tribute to their lasertag games. "I do believe the community may regret this decision and the loss of the excellent mud design on the rocks," said Nemo, a ridiculously cute goldfish who was passing by. "I will, however, submit to the Humans' decision."<p>
"Although this decision is by no means unanimous, the Human feel that the seafloorlacks the necessary characteristics to take upon this task on their own," said Prostetnic Human Smith, a captain with the fleet. "Demolition will begin soon." </p><p>
"As the proper paperwork has already been appropriately filed, resistance is useless!" Smith added. "This detonation had been discussed for several decades and the plans were available in a nearby continent for review and/or complaint. We regret the loss of lives, but we can't be blamed if you won't take the trouble to get out and get involved in your neighborhood"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But opposition to the detonation of the sea floor was fierce in some quarters , particularly from hyper-intelligent crabs and designers of algae , with crustaceans also appearing troubled by the decision .
Many urged that the seafloor be moved to " underground seafloor " status instead of being wiped out of the ocean altogether .
Also protesting are the people of sharks , who feel that though they thought seafloor-bombing is a racist activity , that it is ironically a form of tribute to their lasertag games .
" I do believe the community may regret this decision and the loss of the excellent mud design on the rocks , " said Nemo , a ridiculously cute goldfish who was passing by .
" I will , however , submit to the Humans ' decision .
" " Although this decision is by no means unanimous , the Human feel that the seafloorlacks the necessary characteristics to take upon this task on their own , " said Prostetnic Human Smith , a captain with the fleet .
" Demolition will begin soon .
" " As the proper paperwork has already been appropriately filed , resistance is useless !
" Smith added .
" This detonation had been discussed for several decades and the plans were available in a nearby continent for review and/or complaint .
We regret the loss of lives , but we ca n't be blamed if you wo n't take the trouble to get out and get involved in your neighborhood "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But opposition to the detonation of the sea floor was fierce in some quarters, particularly from hyper-intelligent crabs and designers of algae, with crustaceans also appearing troubled by the decision.
Many urged that the seafloor be moved to "underground seafloor" status instead of being wiped out of the ocean altogether.
Also protesting are the people of sharks, who feel that though they thought seafloor-bombing is a racist activity, that it is ironically a form of tribute to their lasertag games.
"I do believe the community may regret this decision and the loss of the excellent mud design on the rocks," said Nemo, a ridiculously cute goldfish who was passing by.
"I will, however, submit to the Humans' decision.
"
"Although this decision is by no means unanimous, the Human feel that the seafloorlacks the necessary characteristics to take upon this task on their own," said Prostetnic Human Smith, a captain with the fleet.
"Demolition will begin soon.
" 
"As the proper paperwork has already been appropriately filed, resistance is useless!
" Smith added.
"This detonation had been discussed for several decades and the plans were available in a nearby continent for review and/or complaint.
We regret the loss of lives, but we can't be blamed if you won't take the trouble to get out and get involved in your neighborhood"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31162878</id>
	<title>Harri Holkeri</title>
	<author>quotes</author>
	<datestamp>1266328140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"The Baltic Sea is becoming more and more polluted. Not everybody living near the shore of the Baltic Sea is protecting it. It is the water of life for countries like Finland and Sweden. "</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The Baltic Sea is becoming more and more polluted .
Not everybody living near the shore of the Baltic Sea is protecting it .
It is the water of life for countries like Finland and Sweden .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The Baltic Sea is becoming more and more polluted.
Not everybody living near the shore of the Baltic Sea is protecting it.
It is the water of life for countries like Finland and Sweden.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161120</id>
	<title>Re:Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>Shinobi</author>
	<datestamp>1266318960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those mines are still capable of detonating. As explosives age, they tend to become very unstable.</p><p>Swedish, german, danish and finnish underwater demolitions crews have been working on clearing areas together, and so far, in the last 6 years, 3 german divers have died(one diver got a cramp in his legs, attempted to straighten the leg and hit the seabed(Yes, the seabed, not the mine) with his flipper with a bit of force... the vibrations were enough to set off the mine 2m away ), 1 swedish and 1 finnish diver badly wounded(previously not found mine detonating in a sympathetic reaction as another mine was set off in a controlled blast). And those are just the casualties I know of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those mines are still capable of detonating .
As explosives age , they tend to become very unstable.Swedish , german , danish and finnish underwater demolitions crews have been working on clearing areas together , and so far , in the last 6 years , 3 german divers have died ( one diver got a cramp in his legs , attempted to straighten the leg and hit the seabed ( Yes , the seabed , not the mine ) with his flipper with a bit of force... the vibrations were enough to set off the mine 2m away ) , 1 swedish and 1 finnish diver badly wounded ( previously not found mine detonating in a sympathetic reaction as another mine was set off in a controlled blast ) .
And those are just the casualties I know of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those mines are still capable of detonating.
As explosives age, they tend to become very unstable.Swedish, german, danish and finnish underwater demolitions crews have been working on clearing areas together, and so far, in the last 6 years, 3 german divers have died(one diver got a cramp in his legs, attempted to straighten the leg and hit the seabed(Yes, the seabed, not the mine) with his flipper with a bit of force... the vibrations were enough to set off the mine 2m away ), 1 swedish and 1 finnish diver badly wounded(previously not found mine detonating in a sympathetic reaction as another mine was set off in a controlled blast).
And those are just the casualties I know of.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160138</id>
	<title>Gotta wonder...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266314400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How many "missing" nukes lay on the bottom of the world's oceans? Just counting the ones we <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS\_Glomar\_Explorer\_(T-AG-193)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">know about</a> [wikipedia.org], there are <a href="http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/weapons/q0268.shtml" title="aerospaceweb.org" rel="nofollow">at least a few</a> [aerospaceweb.org], and you can bet that there are at least a few more we don't know about.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many " missing " nukes lay on the bottom of the world 's oceans ?
Just counting the ones we know about [ wikipedia.org ] , there are at least a few [ aerospaceweb.org ] , and you can bet that there are at least a few more we do n't know about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many "missing" nukes lay on the bottom of the world's oceans?
Just counting the ones we know about [wikipedia.org], there are at least a few [aerospaceweb.org], and you can bet that there are at least a few more we don't know about.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159906</id>
	<title>Re:DISCRIMINATION!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266313560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you are volunteering?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you are volunteering ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you are volunteering?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161130</id>
	<title>Not a flying car, but....</title>
	<author>Radical Moderate</author>
	<datestamp>1266319020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>mine-destroying robots are pretty futuristic-cool.</htmltext>
<tokenext>mine-destroying robots are pretty futuristic-cool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mine-destroying robots are pretty futuristic-cool.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161934</id>
	<title>Re:Sooo, paying for WWII cleanup...Who gets the bi</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266323040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cui bono?</p><p>Fork it up, Israel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cui bono ? Fork it up , Israel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cui bono?Fork it up, Israel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160478</id>
	<title>Re:Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>russotto</author>
	<datestamp>1266316020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What makes them think the mines will explode? I mean its not like these things were engineered to last 60 years.</p></div></blockquote><p>The main explosive of a mine is typically something shock-sensitive and not at all fragile, like TNT.  The detonators (which would have some other sort of explosive) may be no good, but a good shock will still set off the main explosive.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes them think the mines will explode ?
I mean its not like these things were engineered to last 60 years.The main explosive of a mine is typically something shock-sensitive and not at all fragile , like TNT .
The detonators ( which would have some other sort of explosive ) may be no good , but a good shock will still set off the main explosive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes them think the mines will explode?
I mean its not like these things were engineered to last 60 years.The main explosive of a mine is typically something shock-sensitive and not at all fragile, like TNT.
The detonators (which would have some other sort of explosive) may be no good, but a good shock will still set off the main explosive.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160610</id>
	<title>There was a movie with this in it....</title>
	<author>Virtucon</author>
	<datestamp>1266316680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh yeah..</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&amp;playnext\_from=TL&amp;videos=M-N\_ec6ftJY&amp;v=AR2BkmFEPSM  At approximately 2:30 into it.. Sea Mines!</p><p>Irwin Allen only made disaster films and this scheme sounds like one too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh yeah..http : //www.youtube.com/watch # playnext = 1&amp;playnext \ _from = TL&amp;videos = M-N \ _ec6ftJY&amp;v = AR2BkmFEPSM At approximately 2 : 30 into it.. Sea Mines ! Irwin Allen only made disaster films and this scheme sounds like one too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh yeah..http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&amp;playnext\_from=TL&amp;videos=M-N\_ec6ftJY&amp;v=AR2BkmFEPSM  At approximately 2:30 into it.. Sea Mines!Irwin Allen only made disaster films and this scheme sounds like one too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160634</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1266316800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa\_(ship)" title="wikipedia.org">Vasa</a> [wikipedia.org] warship was preserved in the brackish waters a little way from Stockholm for over three hundred years. How long something lasts at the bottom of the sea depends on the composition of the water (oxygen, salt, etc) and other factors.</p><p>(If you visit Stockholm make sure you see the ship, it's amazing.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Vasa [ wikipedia.org ] warship was preserved in the brackish waters a little way from Stockholm for over three hundred years .
How long something lasts at the bottom of the sea depends on the composition of the water ( oxygen , salt , etc ) and other factors .
( If you visit Stockholm make sure you see the ship , it 's amazing .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Vasa [wikipedia.org] warship was preserved in the brackish waters a little way from Stockholm for over three hundred years.
How long something lasts at the bottom of the sea depends on the composition of the water (oxygen, salt, etc) and other factors.
(If you visit Stockholm make sure you see the ship, it's amazing.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159970</id>
	<title>Re:Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1266313740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suspect the dud rate will be pretty high. Trouble is, though, that when a single active mine could ruin your entire day, a chunk of your staff, and probably some expensive submersible hardware, you pretty much have to check.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect the dud rate will be pretty high .
Trouble is , though , that when a single active mine could ruin your entire day , a chunk of your staff , and probably some expensive submersible hardware , you pretty much have to check .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect the dud rate will be pretty high.
Trouble is, though, that when a single active mine could ruin your entire day, a chunk of your staff, and probably some expensive submersible hardware, you pretty much have to check.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160092</id>
	<title>Re:humans</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266314220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let me fix that for you;<br>
In Soviet Russia robots use humans to dispose mines...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me fix that for you ; In Soviet Russia robots use humans to dispose mines.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me fix that for you;
In Soviet Russia robots use humans to dispose mines...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160022</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1266313980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We still discover Shipwrecks and sunken cruisers from earlier eras in the same intact position as they sunk - I have no reason to doubt a mine could last that long. You need Oxygen to rust, and while there is obviously a lot of it inside an H20 ocean, it doesn't have the C02 that usually helps pump out fast oxidizing.</p><p>Your car sitting outside with the wind and the rain and polution will rust much faster than a ship at the bottom of the ocean.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We still discover Shipwrecks and sunken cruisers from earlier eras in the same intact position as they sunk - I have no reason to doubt a mine could last that long .
You need Oxygen to rust , and while there is obviously a lot of it inside an H20 ocean , it does n't have the C02 that usually helps pump out fast oxidizing.Your car sitting outside with the wind and the rain and polution will rust much faster than a ship at the bottom of the ocean .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We still discover Shipwrecks and sunken cruisers from earlier eras in the same intact position as they sunk - I have no reason to doubt a mine could last that long.
You need Oxygen to rust, and while there is obviously a lot of it inside an H20 ocean, it doesn't have the C02 that usually helps pump out fast oxidizing.Your car sitting outside with the wind and the rain and polution will rust much faster than a ship at the bottom of the ocean.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161038</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>cowboy76Spain</author>
	<datestamp>1266318600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>... That's not to say it's not invasive, only that (short of transporter technology where we can beam it all into space) it's about as good as we're going to get.</p></div><p>I don't think the sharks would like to be beamed into space, anyway...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... That 's not to say it 's not invasive , only that ( short of transporter technology where we can beam it all into space ) it 's about as good as we 're going to get.I do n't think the sharks would like to be beamed into space , anyway.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... That's not to say it's not invasive, only that (short of transporter technology where we can beam it all into space) it's about as good as we're going to get.I don't think the sharks would like to be beamed into space, anyway...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160310</id>
	<title>gas leak</title>
	<author>hey</author>
	<datestamp>1266315120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Won't be so nice for the environment when the new gas line springs a leak.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wo n't be so nice for the environment when the new gas line springs a leak .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Won't be so nice for the environment when the new gas line springs a leak.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159910</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266313560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So...   what? Blow up the fish and the marine mammals, too, in the interest of fairness?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So... what ? Blow up the fish and the marine mammals , too , in the interest of fairness ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So...   what? Blow up the fish and the marine mammals, too, in the interest of fairness?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31163384</id>
	<title>Re:Origin of Mines?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266331560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bottom sea mines do damage ships... it's the pressure wave....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bottom sea mines do damage ships... it 's the pressure wave... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bottom sea mines do damage ships... it's the pressure wave....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31166670</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1265020080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The mines weren't designed to last 60 years.  They're military mines: they were designed to be be cheap enough to produce in mass numbers  quickly so they could deny shipping in the areas where they were laid for the duration of a conflict, and someone else could worry about the cleanup later.  This was a global conflict that the allies could easily have lost, not a modern war of predator drones against people in tents. No-one was worried about making eco-mines out of unobtainium back in WWII.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The mines were n't designed to last 60 years .
They 're military mines : they were designed to be be cheap enough to produce in mass numbers quickly so they could deny shipping in the areas where they were laid for the duration of a conflict , and someone else could worry about the cleanup later .
This was a global conflict that the allies could easily have lost , not a modern war of predator drones against people in tents .
No-one was worried about making eco-mines out of unobtainium back in WWII .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The mines weren't designed to last 60 years.
They're military mines: they were designed to be be cheap enough to produce in mass numbers  quickly so they could deny shipping in the areas where they were laid for the duration of a conflict, and someone else could worry about the cleanup later.
This was a global conflict that the allies could easily have lost, not a modern war of predator drones against people in tents.
No-one was worried about making eco-mines out of unobtainium back in WWII.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159856</id>
	<title>Robot Insurance</title>
	<author>PawNtheSandman</author>
	<datestamp>1266313320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would you like to purchase some robot insurance for the future when they come after you for your prescription medication?</p><p>FYI robots are the leading killers among peoples aged 55 and older.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you like to purchase some robot insurance for the future when they come after you for your prescription medication ? FYI robots are the leading killers among peoples aged 55 and older .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you like to purchase some robot insurance for the future when they come after you for your prescription medication?FYI robots are the leading killers among peoples aged 55 and older.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160334</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>Waffle Iron</author>
	<datestamp>1266315240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One would think that after sitting at the bottom of the salty ocean for 60+ years it's shell would have rusted through and the explosives saturated with water.</p></div><p>IIRC, bombs and mines are often filled with a molten explosive such as TNT, which is then allowed to cool into a solid mass. It's not a given that simply exposing such a monolithic explosive to water would render it harmless.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One would think that after sitting at the bottom of the salty ocean for 60 + years it 's shell would have rusted through and the explosives saturated with water.IIRC , bombs and mines are often filled with a molten explosive such as TNT , which is then allowed to cool into a solid mass .
It 's not a given that simply exposing such a monolithic explosive to water would render it harmless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One would think that after sitting at the bottom of the salty ocean for 60+ years it's shell would have rusted through and the explosives saturated with water.IIRC, bombs and mines are often filled with a molten explosive such as TNT, which is then allowed to cool into a solid mass.
It's not a given that simply exposing such a monolithic explosive to water would render it harmless.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160744</id>
	<title>Re:What about the chemical weapons dumped?</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1266317280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The mustard gas is still going to leach out over time, this just releases it all at once over an area that has hopefully been largely cleared of wildlife.  Certainly not an ideal way of neutralizing mustard gas, but overall probably not terribly much more harmful than leaving it there - the difference being that the damage is done all at once rather than over the course of decades.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The mustard gas is still going to leach out over time , this just releases it all at once over an area that has hopefully been largely cleared of wildlife .
Certainly not an ideal way of neutralizing mustard gas , but overall probably not terribly much more harmful than leaving it there - the difference being that the damage is done all at once rather than over the course of decades .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The mustard gas is still going to leach out over time, this just releases it all at once over an area that has hopefully been largely cleared of wildlife.
Certainly not an ideal way of neutralizing mustard gas, but overall probably not terribly much more harmful than leaving it there - the difference being that the damage is done all at once rather than over the course of decades.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160768</id>
	<title>A warning to anyone googling for "seal screamer"</title>
	<author>synaptik</author>
	<datestamp>1266317400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>A warning to anyone tempted to google for the article's intriguing term "seal screamer":   the google search result pointing to Urban Dictionary's entry for "<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Screamin'\%20Seal" title="urbandictionary.com">screamin' seal</a> [urbandictionary.com]"-- while interesting in its own right, and marginally related-- is likely not the same phenomenon.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A warning to anyone tempted to google for the article 's intriguing term " seal screamer " : the google search result pointing to Urban Dictionary 's entry for " screamin ' seal [ urbandictionary.com ] " -- while interesting in its own right , and marginally related-- is likely not the same phenomenon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A warning to anyone tempted to google for the article's intriguing term "seal screamer":   the google search result pointing to Urban Dictionary's entry for "screamin' seal [urbandictionary.com]"-- while interesting in its own right, and marginally related-- is likely not the same phenomenon.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31162962</id>
	<title>Re:Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1266328560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As explosives age, they become less stable, and thus <i>more</i> likely to explode. Especially if they're not properly stored. Unexploded ordinance from WW II is still a big problem in many places.</p><p><a href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,584091,00.html" title="spiegel.de">http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,584091,00.html</a> [spiegel.de]<br><a href="http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-05/04/content\_439409.htm" title="chinadaily.com.cn">http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-05/04/content\_439409.htm</a> [chinadaily.com.cn]</p><p>The French still have problems with unexploded ordinance from <i>World War I</i>, which was mostly fought on their territory.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As explosives age , they become less stable , and thus more likely to explode .
Especially if they 're not properly stored .
Unexploded ordinance from WW II is still a big problem in many places.http : //www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,584091,00.html [ spiegel.de ] http : //www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-05/04/content \ _439409.htm [ chinadaily.com.cn ] The French still have problems with unexploded ordinance from World War I , which was mostly fought on their territory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As explosives age, they become less stable, and thus more likely to explode.
Especially if they're not properly stored.
Unexploded ordinance from WW II is still a big problem in many places.http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,584091,00.html [spiegel.de]http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-05/04/content\_439409.htm [chinadaily.com.cn]The French still have problems with unexploded ordinance from World War I, which was mostly fought on their territory.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160910</id>
	<title>Re:Job Security</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266318000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually there are only about 70. The summary is self contradicting and incorrect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually there are only about 70 .
The summary is self contradicting and incorrect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually there are only about 70.
The summary is self contradicting and incorrect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160606</id>
	<title>It can't go wron because...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266316620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What *possible* hazard can there be from a mere 150000 x (average weight of a 'bomb') kilos worth of pulverized, incompletely incinerated, remains of tnt / cordite / phosphorus + all the heavy metals that Victorian thru Cold-War tech was ever so fond of ?</p><p>Damm flashbacks! I dont care about the Vorga, I mean, Volga and the Aral Sea (Caspian, Baltic). It's a completely different era. Completely new people. Different people. Different ideas! They'd *never* compromise ecology for industrial expedience and socio-economic convenience! We know what happens when someone is allowed to do that. Impossible! Again, I say!</p><p>It must be me.</p><p>On the other hand, he surviving bears are going to really feast on all those deaf seals. And it's going to get tricky - swimming while holding old-fashioned hearing aid seashells.</p><p>But the exploding seaweed, or seafood (within a few years time),  is going to be quire a blast.</p><p>And the effects of mixing explosive remains + pcb + ddt in warm, living whale, seal, or bear fat ought to be really interesting. So, in a few years time : "Beware of pissing bears!", then.</p><p>And thanks for all the....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What * possible * hazard can there be from a mere 150000 x ( average weight of a 'bomb ' ) kilos worth of pulverized , incompletely incinerated , remains of tnt / cordite / phosphorus + all the heavy metals that Victorian thru Cold-War tech was ever so fond of ? Damm flashbacks !
I dont care about the Vorga , I mean , Volga and the Aral Sea ( Caspian , Baltic ) .
It 's a completely different era .
Completely new people .
Different people .
Different ideas !
They 'd * never * compromise ecology for industrial expedience and socio-economic convenience !
We know what happens when someone is allowed to do that .
Impossible ! Again , I say ! It must be me.On the other hand , he surviving bears are going to really feast on all those deaf seals .
And it 's going to get tricky - swimming while holding old-fashioned hearing aid seashells.But the exploding seaweed , or seafood ( within a few years time ) , is going to be quire a blast.And the effects of mixing explosive remains + pcb + ddt in warm , living whale , seal , or bear fat ought to be really interesting .
So , in a few years time : " Beware of pissing bears !
" , then.And thanks for all the... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What *possible* hazard can there be from a mere 150000 x (average weight of a 'bomb') kilos worth of pulverized, incompletely incinerated, remains of tnt / cordite / phosphorus + all the heavy metals that Victorian thru Cold-War tech was ever so fond of ?Damm flashbacks!
I dont care about the Vorga, I mean, Volga and the Aral Sea (Caspian, Baltic).
It's a completely different era.
Completely new people.
Different people.
Different ideas!
They'd *never* compromise ecology for industrial expedience and socio-economic convenience!
We know what happens when someone is allowed to do that.
Impossible! Again, I say!It must be me.On the other hand, he surviving bears are going to really feast on all those deaf seals.
And it's going to get tricky - swimming while holding old-fashioned hearing aid seashells.But the exploding seaweed, or seafood (within a few years time),  is going to be quire a blast.And the effects of mixing explosive remains + pcb + ddt in warm, living whale, seal, or bear fat ought to be really interesting.
So, in a few years time : "Beware of pissing bears!
", then.And thanks for all the....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161442</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>gestalt\_n\_pepper</author>
	<datestamp>1266320280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Won't somebody think of the animated sea kittens!?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wo n't somebody think of the animated sea kittens !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Won't somebody think of the animated sea kittens!
?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161360</id>
	<title>Re:Origin of Mines?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266319980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The mines were intended to damage both subs and surface ships.  Most mines were tethered to a weight that sat on the bottom and held them just below the surface.  That way, even good lookouts in perfect weather wouldn't see them.  So the crew of a large, not very maneuverable freighter, say, or a passenger ship might never know it was in the middle of a minefield until after the mine exploded.</p><p>Also note, during WW II, diesel powered submarines actually spent most of their time underway on the surface.  The snorkel wasn't deployed until after the beginning of WW II and only the newer subs had them.  They were still restrained to "snorkel depth" which might have been only slightly deeper than a deep draft vessel of that time, if that.</p><p>Finally, many of those mines are left over from the first (yes, first!) world war.  The French are still clearing WW I battlefields that saw very little action in WW II of old, unexploded artillery shells left over from WW I.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The mines were intended to damage both subs and surface ships .
Most mines were tethered to a weight that sat on the bottom and held them just below the surface .
That way , even good lookouts in perfect weather would n't see them .
So the crew of a large , not very maneuverable freighter , say , or a passenger ship might never know it was in the middle of a minefield until after the mine exploded.Also note , during WW II , diesel powered submarines actually spent most of their time underway on the surface .
The snorkel was n't deployed until after the beginning of WW II and only the newer subs had them .
They were still restrained to " snorkel depth " which might have been only slightly deeper than a deep draft vessel of that time , if that.Finally , many of those mines are left over from the first ( yes , first !
) world war .
The French are still clearing WW I battlefields that saw very little action in WW II of old , unexploded artillery shells left over from WW I .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The mines were intended to damage both subs and surface ships.
Most mines were tethered to a weight that sat on the bottom and held them just below the surface.
That way, even good lookouts in perfect weather wouldn't see them.
So the crew of a large, not very maneuverable freighter, say, or a passenger ship might never know it was in the middle of a minefield until after the mine exploded.Also note, during WW II, diesel powered submarines actually spent most of their time underway on the surface.
The snorkel wasn't deployed until after the beginning of WW II and only the newer subs had them.
They were still restrained to "snorkel depth" which might have been only slightly deeper than a deep draft vessel of that time, if that.Finally, many of those mines are left over from the first (yes, first!
) world war.
The French are still clearing WW I battlefields that saw very little action in WW II of old, unexploded artillery shells left over from WW I.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159782</id>
	<title>humans</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266312960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One day robots will use humans to dispose of mines...won't be so funny then...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One day robots will use humans to dispose of mines...wo n't be so funny then.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One day robots will use humans to dispose of mines...won't be so funny then...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160274</id>
	<title>Shortsighted or failure to complete the job?</title>
	<author>zero\_out</author>
	<datestamp>1266315000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hindsight is supposed to be 20/20, but I have to wonder, were these mines the product of shortsighted people who were focused too intently on their present-day worries, or were they a necessity that just didn't get cleaned up like a respondible entity should do?</p><p>Wars come and go, but humanity continues on (for now).  Was mining the sea a shortsighted endeavor that ultimately caused more harm than what was being prevented (invasion)?  Or was the outcome of the war so pivotal to the course of human existance that mining the sea was a necessity, but those responsible simply failed to clean up their mess?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hindsight is supposed to be 20/20 , but I have to wonder , were these mines the product of shortsighted people who were focused too intently on their present-day worries , or were they a necessity that just did n't get cleaned up like a respondible entity should do ? Wars come and go , but humanity continues on ( for now ) .
Was mining the sea a shortsighted endeavor that ultimately caused more harm than what was being prevented ( invasion ) ?
Or was the outcome of the war so pivotal to the course of human existance that mining the sea was a necessity , but those responsible simply failed to clean up their mess ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hindsight is supposed to be 20/20, but I have to wonder, were these mines the product of shortsighted people who were focused too intently on their present-day worries, or were they a necessity that just didn't get cleaned up like a respondible entity should do?Wars come and go, but humanity continues on (for now).
Was mining the sea a shortsighted endeavor that ultimately caused more harm than what was being prevented (invasion)?
Or was the outcome of the war so pivotal to the course of human existance that mining the sea was a necessity, but those responsible simply failed to clean up their mess?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159886</id>
	<title>what about the corals</title>
	<author>splatter</author>
	<datestamp>1266313440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nothing like a nice big underwater shock wave to kill all the local reef.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nothing like a nice big underwater shock wave to kill all the local reef .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nothing like a nice big underwater shock wave to kill all the local reef.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160968</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>The\_mad\_linguist</author>
	<datestamp>1266318300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ooops!  Godwin's law.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:b</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ooops !
Godwin 's law .
: b</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ooops!
Godwin's law.
:b</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160216</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266314760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>they get cleared out of the way of the pipeline that is coming in. win/win.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>they get cleared out of the way of the pipeline that is coming in .
win/win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they get cleared out of the way of the pipeline that is coming in.
win/win.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159896</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266313500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> What about the plants?</p></div> </blockquote><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; They'll grow back.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the plants ?
    They 'll grow back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> What about the plants?
    They'll grow back.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160398</id>
	<title>150,000 mines</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1266315600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's more than 150,000 mines, and they're only going to clean up 70 of them? What's the big deal? That's less than<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.05\%! Think of the children of the puffer fish!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's more than 150,000 mines , and they 're only going to clean up 70 of them ?
What 's the big deal ?
That 's less than .05 \ % !
Think of the children of the puffer fish !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's more than 150,000 mines, and they're only going to clean up 70 of them?
What's the big deal?
That's less than .05\%!
Think of the children of the puffer fish!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159892</id>
	<title>Dirty Jobs ftw</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266313500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I smell an Oscar if Dirty Jobs takes this one on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I smell an Oscar if Dirty Jobs takes this one on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I smell an Oscar if Dirty Jobs takes this one on.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31163432</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266332040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fur in the sea is a liability you insensitive clod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fur in the sea is a liability you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fur in the sea is a liability you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160806</id>
	<title>Re:Shortsighted or failure to complete the job?</title>
	<author>qzak</author>
	<datestamp>1266317580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess you could call them shortsighted. But I also guess the times they lived in were a lot more desperate than yours. This is a situation where the mines that <i>succeeded</i> in their job caused more environmental devastation than the ones now sitting on the ocean bed (ever think about what a large ship is made of, not to mention its cargo?).
<br> <br>
For many of these folks, the war was one of survival: you did what you needed to. Or would you not fire a gun at someone who intended you harm, out of worry about the lead in the bullet?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess you could call them shortsighted .
But I also guess the times they lived in were a lot more desperate than yours .
This is a situation where the mines that succeeded in their job caused more environmental devastation than the ones now sitting on the ocean bed ( ever think about what a large ship is made of , not to mention its cargo ? ) .
For many of these folks , the war was one of survival : you did what you needed to .
Or would you not fire a gun at someone who intended you harm , out of worry about the lead in the bullet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess you could call them shortsighted.
But I also guess the times they lived in were a lot more desperate than yours.
This is a situation where the mines that succeeded in their job caused more environmental devastation than the ones now sitting on the ocean bed (ever think about what a large ship is made of, not to mention its cargo?).
For many of these folks, the war was one of survival: you did what you needed to.
Or would you not fire a gun at someone who intended you harm, out of worry about the lead in the bullet?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159902</id>
	<title>Great another Robot news!!</title>
	<author>kai\_hiwatari</author>
	<datestamp>1266313500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe the rumors that robots have learned to  submit stories to slashdot are true!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe the rumors that robots have learned to submit stories to slashdot are true !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe the rumors that robots have learned to  submit stories to slashdot are true!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160556</id>
	<title>Sooo, paying for WWII cleanup...Who gets the bill?</title>
	<author>geekmux</author>
	<datestamp>1266316440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interesting how we're still expending money and effort to clean up previous wars.  Due to the global nature of this particular war, really makes me wonder who <b>should</b> be footing the bill for cleanup like this, especially in "international" waterways.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting how we 're still expending money and effort to clean up previous wars .
Due to the global nature of this particular war , really makes me wonder who should be footing the bill for cleanup like this , especially in " international " waterways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting how we're still expending money and effort to clean up previous wars.
Due to the global nature of this particular war, really makes me wonder who should be footing the bill for cleanup like this, especially in "international" waterways.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31165260</id>
	<title>Re:what about the corals</title>
	<author>Pranab</author>
	<datestamp>1266344580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sulphur Mustard? These were underwater mines designed to explode underwater. No one tries to destroy submarines and ships using mines containing poison gas!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sulphur Mustard ?
These were underwater mines designed to explode underwater .
No one tries to destroy submarines and ships using mines containing poison gas !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sulphur Mustard?
These were underwater mines designed to explode underwater.
No one tries to destroy submarines and ships using mines containing poison gas!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31162588</id>
	<title>Re:DISCRIMINATION!</title>
	<author>Harinezumi</author>
	<datestamp>1266326340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>By making them pay a fair market rate for their gas, and with actual money instead of IOUs at that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>By making them pay a fair market rate for their gas , and with actual money instead of IOUs at that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By making them pay a fair market rate for their gas, and with actual money instead of IOUs at that?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31164366</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>budgenator</author>
	<datestamp>1266338520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>wikipedia also says Solubility in water, 0.13 g/L (20 C). I knew a guy that had worked in a munitions plant, he said it was a big problem, TNT dust disolving in mop water,  getting into the sewers and concentrating when the sewer dried out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>wikipedia also says Solubility in water , 0.13 g/L ( 20 C ) .
I knew a guy that had worked in a munitions plant , he said it was a big problem , TNT dust disolving in mop water , getting into the sewers and concentrating when the sewer dried out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wikipedia also says Solubility in water, 0.13 g/L (20 C).
I knew a guy that had worked in a munitions plant, he said it was a big problem, TNT dust disolving in mop water,  getting into the sewers and concentrating when the sewer dried out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31166616</id>
	<title>Re:DISCRIMINATION!</title>
	<author>Engeekneer</author>
	<datestamp>1265019540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Shitty jobs? Exploding friggin mines with explosives, after exploding a warning explosive? I for one would welcome the cool job of our robot underlings.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Shitty jobs ?
Exploding friggin mines with explosives , after exploding a warning explosive ?
I for one would welcome the cool job of our robot underlings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shitty jobs?
Exploding friggin mines with explosives, after exploding a warning explosive?
I for one would welcome the cool job of our robot underlings.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159768</id>
	<title>DISCRIMINATION!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266312900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>once again, <b> <i>The Man</i> </b> keeping the metalman down by only giving him the shitty jobs!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>once again , The Man keeping the metalman down by only giving him the shitty jobs ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>once again,  The Man  keeping the metalman down by only giving him the shitty jobs!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161090</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>CompMD</author>
	<datestamp>1266318840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Unexploded ordinance is just nasty stuff that may or may not still be viable - the only effective way to make it safe is to let all the boom out of it."</p><p>For one of my projects, I was involved in unmanned aircraft activities at Fort Riley, KS, using an old weapons test range.  Downrange was a tree line that we were warned to stay away from, and there were "UXO" signs around them.  Apparently, trees had grown *around* unexploded ordnance, and that those trees were known to spontaneously explode.  It was too dangerous to go out there, and they couldn't just bomb the land on base, so the Army just left that bunch of trees alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Unexploded ordinance is just nasty stuff that may or may not still be viable - the only effective way to make it safe is to let all the boom out of it .
" For one of my projects , I was involved in unmanned aircraft activities at Fort Riley , KS , using an old weapons test range .
Downrange was a tree line that we were warned to stay away from , and there were " UXO " signs around them .
Apparently , trees had grown * around * unexploded ordnance , and that those trees were known to spontaneously explode .
It was too dangerous to go out there , and they could n't just bomb the land on base , so the Army just left that bunch of trees alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Unexploded ordinance is just nasty stuff that may or may not still be viable - the only effective way to make it safe is to let all the boom out of it.
"For one of my projects, I was involved in unmanned aircraft activities at Fort Riley, KS, using an old weapons test range.
Downrange was a tree line that we were warned to stay away from, and there were "UXO" signs around them.
Apparently, trees had grown *around* unexploded ordnance, and that those trees were known to spontaneously explode.
It was too dangerous to go out there, and they couldn't just bomb the land on base, so the Army just left that bunch of trees alone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161218</id>
	<title>In Soviet Russia...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266319380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...robot <i> <b>is</b> </i> bomb!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...robot is bomb !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...robot  is  bomb!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161588</id>
	<title>Re:humans</title>
	<author>Daimanta</author>
	<datestamp>1266321120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, in WWII it was not uncommon to use German POWs as an expendable force to remove mines from heavily mined areas. The Germans are pretty much the only nation in the world who had the right system to map minefields and that came in handy. And yes, a lot of Germans lost their lives during the process.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , in WWII it was not uncommon to use German POWs as an expendable force to remove mines from heavily mined areas .
The Germans are pretty much the only nation in the world who had the right system to map minefields and that came in handy .
And yes , a lot of Germans lost their lives during the process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, in WWII it was not uncommon to use German POWs as an expendable force to remove mines from heavily mined areas.
The Germans are pretty much the only nation in the world who had the right system to map minefields and that came in handy.
And yes, a lot of Germans lost their lives during the process.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161068</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>rahst12</author>
	<datestamp>1266318780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Approximately 100,000 km2 (38,610 sq mi) of the Baltic's seafloor (a quarter of its total area) is a variable dead zone." - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic\_Sea" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic\_Sea</a> [wikipedia.org]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. Right from wikipedia,  guess there is less to worry about than one would think</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Approximately 100,000 km2 ( 38,610 sq mi ) of the Baltic 's seafloor ( a quarter of its total area ) is a variable dead zone .
" - http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic \ _Sea [ wikipedia.org ] .. Right from wikipedia , guess there is less to worry about than one would think</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Approximately 100,000 km2 (38,610 sq mi) of the Baltic's seafloor (a quarter of its total area) is a variable dead zone.
" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic\_Sea [wikipedia.org] .. Right from wikipedia,  guess there is less to worry about than one would think</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31163088</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>z@ph0d</author>
	<datestamp>1266329340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i doubt it. those germans never were any good at engineering.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i doubt it .
those germans never were any good at engineering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i doubt it.
those germans never were any good at engineering.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31179514</id>
	<title>Re:Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>jonadab</author>
	<datestamp>1265037840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; As explosives age, they become less stable, and thus more likely to explode.<br><br>Theoretically, that depends somewhat on the exact type of explosives.  There are some that would potentially leak out over time and dissipate to the point of harmlessness, or gradually corrode chemically into something less explosive.<br><br>But yeah, many explosives are more likely to become unstable and dangerous than harmless.  Furthermore, this is especially likely to be true of "high" explosives, i.e., the kind that have to be detonated (like C4), rather than simply ignited (like black powder) or looked at funny (like chalcogen polyazides).  As a rule the high explosives are the ones that tend to be used militarily.  So, in the context of mines, increased instability over time is definitely the way to bet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; As explosives age , they become less stable , and thus more likely to explode.Theoretically , that depends somewhat on the exact type of explosives .
There are some that would potentially leak out over time and dissipate to the point of harmlessness , or gradually corrode chemically into something less explosive.But yeah , many explosives are more likely to become unstable and dangerous than harmless .
Furthermore , this is especially likely to be true of " high " explosives , i.e. , the kind that have to be detonated ( like C4 ) , rather than simply ignited ( like black powder ) or looked at funny ( like chalcogen polyazides ) .
As a rule the high explosives are the ones that tend to be used militarily .
So , in the context of mines , increased instability over time is definitely the way to bet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; As explosives age, they become less stable, and thus more likely to explode.Theoretically, that depends somewhat on the exact type of explosives.
There are some that would potentially leak out over time and dissipate to the point of harmlessness, or gradually corrode chemically into something less explosive.But yeah, many explosives are more likely to become unstable and dangerous than harmless.
Furthermore, this is especially likely to be true of "high" explosives, i.e., the kind that have to be detonated (like C4), rather than simply ignited (like black powder) or looked at funny (like chalcogen polyazides).
As a rule the high explosives are the ones that tend to be used militarily.
So, in the context of mines, increased instability over time is definitely the way to bet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160308</id>
	<title>Re:Neat</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1266315120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The interesting part is that the de-mining process starts with the assumption that all of these mines will still detonate.</i></p><p>Explosives Disposal 101:  Always assume an explosive device is functional, armed, and active.</p><p>And if that assumption is wrong, the mine will still be destroyed, so no biggie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The interesting part is that the de-mining process starts with the assumption that all of these mines will still detonate.Explosives Disposal 101 : Always assume an explosive device is functional , armed , and active.And if that assumption is wrong , the mine will still be destroyed , so no biggie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The interesting part is that the de-mining process starts with the assumption that all of these mines will still detonate.Explosives Disposal 101:  Always assume an explosive device is functional, armed, and active.And if that assumption is wrong, the mine will still be destroyed, so no biggie.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31181850</id>
	<title>Re:Good news!</title>
	<author>Shinobi</author>
	<datestamp>1266489000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rwanda isn't that bad, mines weren't that large a part of the wars. Angola is far worse. Then there's Vietnam, Kambodja etc. IIRC, Kambodja is ranked as the worst of them all, something along the lines of 200 mines per capita or so</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rwanda is n't that bad , mines were n't that large a part of the wars .
Angola is far worse .
Then there 's Vietnam , Kambodja etc .
IIRC , Kambodja is ranked as the worst of them all , something along the lines of 200 mines per capita or so</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rwanda isn't that bad, mines weren't that large a part of the wars.
Angola is far worse.
Then there's Vietnam, Kambodja etc.
IIRC, Kambodja is ranked as the worst of them all, something along the lines of 200 mines per capita or so</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159898</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159908</id>
	<title>What about the chemical weapons dumped?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266313560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's nice to see they scare away fish and mammals first before detonating bombs, but how do they determine that the unexploded ordnance they blow up are not <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur\_mustard#Disposal" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">mustard gas shells</a> [wikipedia.org] dumped there after WW2?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's nice to see they scare away fish and mammals first before detonating bombs , but how do they determine that the unexploded ordnance they blow up are not mustard gas shells [ wikipedia.org ] dumped there after WW2 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's nice to see they scare away fish and mammals first before detonating bombs, but how do they determine that the unexploded ordnance they blow up are not mustard gas shells [wikipedia.org] dumped there after WW2?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31165542</id>
	<title>Common Good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266346500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lucky for you *all* of the nations around this part of the Baltic Sea have decided to jointly clean up this area regardless of who put it there.

They recently had a meeting in Finland where they announced the partnership; the Scandinavian countries (Denmark, Norway, Sweden), Finland and Russia working together for the common good.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lucky for you * all * of the nations around this part of the Baltic Sea have decided to jointly clean up this area regardless of who put it there .
They recently had a meeting in Finland where they announced the partnership ; the Scandinavian countries ( Denmark , Norway , Sweden ) , Finland and Russia working together for the common good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lucky for you *all* of the nations around this part of the Baltic Sea have decided to jointly clean up this area regardless of who put it there.
They recently had a meeting in Finland where they announced the partnership; the Scandinavian countries (Denmark, Norway, Sweden), Finland and Russia working together for the common good.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160930</id>
	<title>Re:What about the chemical weapons dumped?</title>
	<author>vitalijs</author>
	<datestamp>1266318120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is also a lot of white phosphorous("false amber") coming from the Baltic sea. It is often confused with amber by locals and tourists and can cause severe burns.

<a href="http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/15777/" title="baltictimes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/15777/</a> [baltictimes.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is also a lot of white phosphorous ( " false amber " ) coming from the Baltic sea .
It is often confused with amber by locals and tourists and can cause severe burns .
http : //www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/15777/ [ baltictimes.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is also a lot of white phosphorous("false amber") coming from the Baltic sea.
It is often confused with amber by locals and tourists and can cause severe burns.
http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/15777/ [baltictimes.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160270</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>gurudyne</author>
	<datestamp>1266314940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably not saturated. You may be thinking of gunpowder. People are still getting killed with WW I buried mines and shells.</p><p>Quoting Wikipedia: "TNT neither absorbs nor dissolves in water, which allows it to be used effectively in wet environments."</p><p>Let's say that only one out of twenty still work. Do you feel lucky? Exciting times.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably not saturated .
You may be thinking of gunpowder .
People are still getting killed with WW I buried mines and shells.Quoting Wikipedia : " TNT neither absorbs nor dissolves in water , which allows it to be used effectively in wet environments .
" Let 's say that only one out of twenty still work .
Do you feel lucky ?
Exciting times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably not saturated.
You may be thinking of gunpowder.
People are still getting killed with WW I buried mines and shells.Quoting Wikipedia: "TNT neither absorbs nor dissolves in water, which allows it to be used effectively in wet environments.
"Let's say that only one out of twenty still work.
Do you feel lucky?
Exciting times.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160084</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266314220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Life isn't fair.</p><p>Seriously, what else are they going to do?  If they try to reclaim the bombs and blow them up at another location, the project just got massively more complex, they are going to still damage the surrounding area when they dig it up and drag it away, the stuff that breaks if one goes off in-place just got a lot more expensive, you have the risk of someone getting hurt or killed during transport, and they've still got to blow it up somewhere.  Some life forms are going to be extinguished when the bomb goes off, and no one in their right mind is going to design something to try and keep the bomb from going off.  Unexploded ordinance is just nasty stuff that may or may not still be viable - the only effective way to make it safe is to let all the boom out of it.</p><p>They try to scare off all the critters they can, then they blow up the mine.  It's as cheap, efficient, and about as minimally invasive as such a project could be.  That's not to say it's not invasive, only that (short of transporter technology where we can beam it all into space) it's about as good as we're going to get.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Life is n't fair.Seriously , what else are they going to do ?
If they try to reclaim the bombs and blow them up at another location , the project just got massively more complex , they are going to still damage the surrounding area when they dig it up and drag it away , the stuff that breaks if one goes off in-place just got a lot more expensive , you have the risk of someone getting hurt or killed during transport , and they 've still got to blow it up somewhere .
Some life forms are going to be extinguished when the bomb goes off , and no one in their right mind is going to design something to try and keep the bomb from going off .
Unexploded ordinance is just nasty stuff that may or may not still be viable - the only effective way to make it safe is to let all the boom out of it.They try to scare off all the critters they can , then they blow up the mine .
It 's as cheap , efficient , and about as minimally invasive as such a project could be .
That 's not to say it 's not invasive , only that ( short of transporter technology where we can beam it all into space ) it 's about as good as we 're going to get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Life isn't fair.Seriously, what else are they going to do?
If they try to reclaim the bombs and blow them up at another location, the project just got massively more complex, they are going to still damage the surrounding area when they dig it up and drag it away, the stuff that breaks if one goes off in-place just got a lot more expensive, you have the risk of someone getting hurt or killed during transport, and they've still got to blow it up somewhere.
Some life forms are going to be extinguished when the bomb goes off, and no one in their right mind is going to design something to try and keep the bomb from going off.
Unexploded ordinance is just nasty stuff that may or may not still be viable - the only effective way to make it safe is to let all the boom out of it.They try to scare off all the critters they can, then they blow up the mine.
It's as cheap, efficient, and about as minimally invasive as such a project could be.
That's not to say it's not invasive, only that (short of transporter technology where we can beam it all into space) it's about as good as we're going to get.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31162530</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>BillyGee</author>
	<datestamp>1266326040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, if it isn't fine Caribbean coral, it's not a plant?  There's no plants in a sea that's an average of only 50 meters deep (about 170ft for you metrically challenged people)?  Just because it isn't pretty doesn't mean it isn't there or important.

But anyway, the problem isn't so much destruction of plant or animal life, the area affected is relatively small, but the fact that the Baltic Sea floor is covered not only with regular ordnance from the Russians and Germans, but also with tons upon tons of chemical weapons from WWII era and probably even more significantly, with untold amounts of industrial chemical waste that was produced during the cold war era and was regularly dumped by the russians into the waters all over the sea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , if it is n't fine Caribbean coral , it 's not a plant ?
There 's no plants in a sea that 's an average of only 50 meters deep ( about 170ft for you metrically challenged people ) ?
Just because it is n't pretty does n't mean it is n't there or important .
But anyway , the problem is n't so much destruction of plant or animal life , the area affected is relatively small , but the fact that the Baltic Sea floor is covered not only with regular ordnance from the Russians and Germans , but also with tons upon tons of chemical weapons from WWII era and probably even more significantly , with untold amounts of industrial chemical waste that was produced during the cold war era and was regularly dumped by the russians into the waters all over the sea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, if it isn't fine Caribbean coral, it's not a plant?
There's no plants in a sea that's an average of only 50 meters deep (about 170ft for you metrically challenged people)?
Just because it isn't pretty doesn't mean it isn't there or important.
But anyway, the problem isn't so much destruction of plant or animal life, the area affected is relatively small, but the fact that the Baltic Sea floor is covered not only with regular ordnance from the Russians and Germans, but also with tons upon tons of chemical weapons from WWII era and probably even more significantly, with untold amounts of industrial chemical waste that was produced during the cold war era and was regularly dumped by the russians into the waters all over the sea.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161338</id>
	<title>Re:Shortsighted or failure to complete the job?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266319920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's pretty much how the Netherlands thought... why should so many people die when it's just the machinations of the leadership?  Save the treasures of the earth and civilization for the people!  Let the leadership change!

</p><p>Nazi occupied Netherlands was not so bad... if you weren't Jewish, didn't fight for the Germans and didn't starve or freeze before liberation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's pretty much how the Netherlands thought... why should so many people die when it 's just the machinations of the leadership ?
Save the treasures of the earth and civilization for the people !
Let the leadership change !
Nazi occupied Netherlands was not so bad... if you were n't Jewish , did n't fight for the Germans and did n't starve or freeze before liberation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's pretty much how the Netherlands thought... why should so many people die when it's just the machinations of the leadership?
Save the treasures of the earth and civilization for the people!
Let the leadership change!
Nazi occupied Netherlands was not so bad... if you weren't Jewish, didn't fight for the Germans and didn't starve or freeze before liberation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160000</id>
	<title>Who would oppose this?</title>
	<author>Zebai</author>
	<datestamp>1266313860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't believe they have opposition from ENVIRONMENTALISTS!    Of all people, they should be the first to encourage the removal of mines.   Frankly I would like to see all 150,000 removed, we have enough mines in our world we don't need them in the ocean as well.</p><p>Any pollution from the remains of these mines would only be temporary, the sea claims all things in the end and it will eventually filter out/destroy toxins on its own once its in flow is stopped.   If its already heavily polluted they should focus their efforts on whatever is causing it before this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe they have opposition from ENVIRONMENTALISTS !
Of all people , they should be the first to encourage the removal of mines .
Frankly I would like to see all 150,000 removed , we have enough mines in our world we do n't need them in the ocean as well.Any pollution from the remains of these mines would only be temporary , the sea claims all things in the end and it will eventually filter out/destroy toxins on its own once its in flow is stopped .
If its already heavily polluted they should focus their efforts on whatever is causing it before this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe they have opposition from ENVIRONMENTALISTS!
Of all people, they should be the first to encourage the removal of mines.
Frankly I would like to see all 150,000 removed, we have enough mines in our world we don't need them in the ocean as well.Any pollution from the remains of these mines would only be temporary, the sea claims all things in the end and it will eventually filter out/destroy toxins on its own once its in flow is stopped.
If its already heavily polluted they should focus their efforts on whatever is causing it before this.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31162946</id>
	<title>It isn't just mines...</title>
	<author>quotes</author>
	<datestamp>1266328440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Large quantities of chemical warfare agents were dumped in the Baltic Sea after World War II (WWII). This included 32 000 t of chemical munitions containing approximately 11 000 t of chemical warfare agents which were dumped into the Bornholm Basin and 2000 t of chemical munitions containing approximately 1000 t in the Gotland Basin. Because this material was contained in wooden crates, it was distributed throughout the Baltic. The long-term environmental impact of these agents is unknown." GP Glasby, Disposal of chemical weapons in the Baltic Sea, Science of The Total Environment
Volume 206, Issues 2-3, 5 November 1997, Pages 267-273.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Large quantities of chemical warfare agents were dumped in the Baltic Sea after World War II ( WWII ) .
This included 32 000 t of chemical munitions containing approximately 11 000 t of chemical warfare agents which were dumped into the Bornholm Basin and 2000 t of chemical munitions containing approximately 1000 t in the Gotland Basin .
Because this material was contained in wooden crates , it was distributed throughout the Baltic .
The long-term environmental impact of these agents is unknown .
" GP Glasby , Disposal of chemical weapons in the Baltic Sea , Science of The Total Environment Volume 206 , Issues 2-3 , 5 November 1997 , Pages 267-273 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Large quantities of chemical warfare agents were dumped in the Baltic Sea after World War II (WWII).
This included 32 000 t of chemical munitions containing approximately 11 000 t of chemical warfare agents which were dumped into the Bornholm Basin and 2000 t of chemical munitions containing approximately 1000 t in the Gotland Basin.
Because this material was contained in wooden crates, it was distributed throughout the Baltic.
The long-term environmental impact of these agents is unknown.
" GP Glasby, Disposal of chemical weapons in the Baltic Sea, Science of The Total Environment
Volume 206, Issues 2-3, 5 November 1997, Pages 267-273.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160010</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1266313920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe, but why take the chance?  If the mines haven't leaked,  the explosives inside may be very unstable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe , but why take the chance ?
If the mines have n't leaked , the explosives inside may be very unstable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe, but why take the chance?
If the mines haven't leaked,  the explosives inside may be very unstable.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160236</id>
	<title>Re:Who would oppose this?</title>
	<author>Grishnakh</author>
	<datestamp>1266314820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, the process could be a lot cleaner if they simply raised the mines off the seafloor and transported them somewhere safe for detonation, or even better, disassembly and recycling.</p><p>Since this would obviously be a very dangerous job for any workers involved, let's get the environmentalists complaining about this to volunteer to do the job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , the process could be a lot cleaner if they simply raised the mines off the seafloor and transported them somewhere safe for detonation , or even better , disassembly and recycling.Since this would obviously be a very dangerous job for any workers involved , let 's get the environmentalists complaining about this to volunteer to do the job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, the process could be a lot cleaner if they simply raised the mines off the seafloor and transported them somewhere safe for detonation, or even better, disassembly and recycling.Since this would obviously be a very dangerous job for any workers involved, let's get the environmentalists complaining about this to volunteer to do the job.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31163634</id>
	<title>Re:Who would oppose this?</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1266333480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At the moment the mines are stopping the pipeline.</p><p>The environmentalists may well prefer the lesser of two evils and let the mines stick around as long as they have the side effect of blocking a gas pipe.</p><p>The enemy of my enemy is my friend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At the moment the mines are stopping the pipeline.The environmentalists may well prefer the lesser of two evils and let the mines stick around as long as they have the side effect of blocking a gas pipe.The enemy of my enemy is my friend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the moment the mines are stopping the pipeline.The environmentalists may well prefer the lesser of two evils and let the mines stick around as long as they have the side effect of blocking a gas pipe.The enemy of my enemy is my friend.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160802</id>
	<title>Re:Who would oppose this?</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1266317520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Any pollution from the remains of these mines would only be temporary, the sea claims all things in the end and it will eventually filter out/destroy toxins on its own once its in flow is stopped.</p></div><p>Conservation of mass is still the rule of the land.  Pollution doesn't "disappear" it just dilutes.  That being said, from my memory of a week of hands on US army explosives training in the early 90s as an ammo specialist 55B:</p><p>1) All unexploded military grade explosives are somewhat toxic.  In the movies, or during wartime, people mush C-4 with their bare hands, but its quite poisonous so we wore gloves in training.  We were told you'll throw up in the short term, and get cancer in the long term.  Best case is probably ANFO, the AN is harmless, but the FO part is literally pouring raw diesel fuel into the water, not all that nice of a thing to do.  Just touching nitro dynamite gives an amazing headache, the RDX stuff is way better but still not exactly baby formula.  TNT is oily gritty semisolid stuff that partially liquifies when its warm, probably not an issue in the baltic sea...</p><p>There are explosives that are non toxic like gunpowder that are not used as a military explosive but only as a propellant in naval guns (modern ones use nitro based smokeless powders).  There are exotic mining explosives vaguely involving charcoal and liquid oxygen, which are not used by the military.</p><p>2) Generally speaking, the fumes/smoke/whatever of an explosive are WAY less toxic than the explosive itself.  Given the choice of breathing the smoke from 1 lb of TNT, or eating 1 lb of TNT, the smoke is WAY more healthy.  The smoke from C-4 is nasty and will kill you, but eating or touching unexploded C-4 will kill you WAY faster.  The environment is way better off with the stuff exploded than unexploded.</p><p>3) Pest control was not an issue in the bunkers, as far as I know, aside from termites in the crates.  Unexploded ammo is not good eats.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Any pollution from the remains of these mines would only be temporary , the sea claims all things in the end and it will eventually filter out/destroy toxins on its own once its in flow is stopped.Conservation of mass is still the rule of the land .
Pollution does n't " disappear " it just dilutes .
That being said , from my memory of a week of hands on US army explosives training in the early 90s as an ammo specialist 55B : 1 ) All unexploded military grade explosives are somewhat toxic .
In the movies , or during wartime , people mush C-4 with their bare hands , but its quite poisonous so we wore gloves in training .
We were told you 'll throw up in the short term , and get cancer in the long term .
Best case is probably ANFO , the AN is harmless , but the FO part is literally pouring raw diesel fuel into the water , not all that nice of a thing to do .
Just touching nitro dynamite gives an amazing headache , the RDX stuff is way better but still not exactly baby formula .
TNT is oily gritty semisolid stuff that partially liquifies when its warm , probably not an issue in the baltic sea...There are explosives that are non toxic like gunpowder that are not used as a military explosive but only as a propellant in naval guns ( modern ones use nitro based smokeless powders ) .
There are exotic mining explosives vaguely involving charcoal and liquid oxygen , which are not used by the military.2 ) Generally speaking , the fumes/smoke/whatever of an explosive are WAY less toxic than the explosive itself .
Given the choice of breathing the smoke from 1 lb of TNT , or eating 1 lb of TNT , the smoke is WAY more healthy .
The smoke from C-4 is nasty and will kill you , but eating or touching unexploded C-4 will kill you WAY faster .
The environment is way better off with the stuff exploded than unexploded.3 ) Pest control was not an issue in the bunkers , as far as I know , aside from termites in the crates .
Unexploded ammo is not good eats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any pollution from the remains of these mines would only be temporary, the sea claims all things in the end and it will eventually filter out/destroy toxins on its own once its in flow is stopped.Conservation of mass is still the rule of the land.
Pollution doesn't "disappear" it just dilutes.
That being said, from my memory of a week of hands on US army explosives training in the early 90s as an ammo specialist 55B:1) All unexploded military grade explosives are somewhat toxic.
In the movies, or during wartime, people mush C-4 with their bare hands, but its quite poisonous so we wore gloves in training.
We were told you'll throw up in the short term, and get cancer in the long term.
Best case is probably ANFO, the AN is harmless, but the FO part is literally pouring raw diesel fuel into the water, not all that nice of a thing to do.
Just touching nitro dynamite gives an amazing headache, the RDX stuff is way better but still not exactly baby formula.
TNT is oily gritty semisolid stuff that partially liquifies when its warm, probably not an issue in the baltic sea...There are explosives that are non toxic like gunpowder that are not used as a military explosive but only as a propellant in naval guns (modern ones use nitro based smokeless powders).
There are exotic mining explosives vaguely involving charcoal and liquid oxygen, which are not used by the military.2) Generally speaking, the fumes/smoke/whatever of an explosive are WAY less toxic than the explosive itself.
Given the choice of breathing the smoke from 1 lb of TNT, or eating 1 lb of TNT, the smoke is WAY more healthy.
The smoke from C-4 is nasty and will kill you, but eating or touching unexploded C-4 will kill you WAY faster.
The environment is way better off with the stuff exploded than unexploded.3) Pest control was not an issue in the bunkers, as far as I know, aside from termites in the crates.
Unexploded ammo is not good eats.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159912</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1266313560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What about the plants? and stuff that can't move away fast enough?</p></div><p>It's not like WWII happened yesterday.  They had plenty of time to move away from the bombs.  If they didn't that's their own damn fault for choosing to grow right near an old bomb! [/joke]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the plants ?
and stuff that ca n't move away fast enough ? It 's not like WWII happened yesterday .
They had plenty of time to move away from the bombs .
If they did n't that 's their own damn fault for choosing to grow right near an old bomb !
[ /joke ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the plants?
and stuff that can't move away fast enough?It's not like WWII happened yesterday.
They had plenty of time to move away from the bombs.
If they didn't that's their own damn fault for choosing to grow right near an old bomb!
[/joke]
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160428</id>
	<title>Reminds me of a 'suicide mission' sketch on Cher</title>
	<author>Provocateur</author>
	<datestamp>1266315720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, she had a variety show back then. One of the skits involved a WWII suicide mission, held in a tent, complete with a map they can point to from time to time. So the commander is brought in, they all stand at attention yadda yadda and when he starts the briefing he is half mumbling his words but the only words you could ever understand where the words <i>suicide</i>, <i>death</i>, and <i>die</i>. WHen he called in Cher to demonstrate gas masks (of all things) Cher also mumbles which even gets worse when she puts the gas mask on and continues talking! Her voice is muffled and when she removes it the words <i>Instant death</i> were very clear. The soldiers look at each other, confused. Funny as hell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , she had a variety show back then .
One of the skits involved a WWII suicide mission , held in a tent , complete with a map they can point to from time to time .
So the commander is brought in , they all stand at attention yadda yadda and when he starts the briefing he is half mumbling his words but the only words you could ever understand where the words suicide , death , and die .
WHen he called in Cher to demonstrate gas masks ( of all things ) Cher also mumbles which even gets worse when she puts the gas mask on and continues talking !
Her voice is muffled and when she removes it the words Instant death were very clear .
The soldiers look at each other , confused .
Funny as hell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, she had a variety show back then.
One of the skits involved a WWII suicide mission, held in a tent, complete with a map they can point to from time to time.
So the commander is brought in, they all stand at attention yadda yadda and when he starts the briefing he is half mumbling his words but the only words you could ever understand where the words suicide, death, and die.
WHen he called in Cher to demonstrate gas masks (of all things) Cher also mumbles which even gets worse when she puts the gas mask on and continues talking!
Her voice is muffled and when she removes it the words Instant death were very clear.
The soldiers look at each other, confused.
Funny as hell.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31162598</id>
	<title>Re:Good news!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266326460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And why is that modded funny?<br>I can't find any numbers right now, but there are probably hundreds of bombs found here in Germany every year (and other European countries as well). Did hear about evacuations in cities several times.<br>So I don't think your dates are that far of, considering somebody has to fund it.<br>About 10-15\% of all bombs don't detonate, at least those used in WW2.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And why is that modded funny ? I ca n't find any numbers right now , but there are probably hundreds of bombs found here in Germany every year ( and other European countries as well ) .
Did hear about evacuations in cities several times.So I do n't think your dates are that far of , considering somebody has to fund it.About 10-15 \ % of all bombs do n't detonate , at least those used in WW2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And why is that modded funny?I can't find any numbers right now, but there are probably hundreds of bombs found here in Germany every year (and other European countries as well).
Did hear about evacuations in cities several times.So I don't think your dates are that far of, considering somebody has to fund it.About 10-15\% of all bombs don't detonate, at least those used in WW2.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31166696</id>
	<title>Re:Origin of Mines?</title>
	<author>tokul</author>
	<datestamp>1265020380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time, or were they intended to get subs? Skimmed the article but didn't see that detail. Seems they're a bit too deep to be intended for surface ships, yeah?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Baltics is not only full of WW2 mines. It is also post-WW2 munition and arms dumpster. Sinked ships and weapons. Chemicals that are prohibited by international conventions. Any person doing stuff on the bottom of Baltics should be concerned about not hitting some amo dump.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time , or were they intended to get subs ?
Skimmed the article but did n't see that detail .
Seems they 're a bit too deep to be intended for surface ships , yeah ?
Baltics is not only full of WW2 mines .
It is also post-WW2 munition and arms dumpster .
Sinked ships and weapons .
Chemicals that are prohibited by international conventions .
Any person doing stuff on the bottom of Baltics should be concerned about not hitting some amo dump .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time, or were they intended to get subs?
Skimmed the article but didn't see that detail.
Seems they're a bit too deep to be intended for surface ships, yeah?
Baltics is not only full of WW2 mines.
It is also post-WW2 munition and arms dumpster.
Sinked ships and weapons.
Chemicals that are prohibited by international conventions.
Any person doing stuff on the bottom of Baltics should be concerned about not hitting some amo dump.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160480</id>
	<title>Re:Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266316020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The whole point of setting off a bomb next to a bigger bomb is to ensure that any viable explosives will go off.</p><p>Large boom = the original bomb was a danger and the danger is gone.<br>Small boom = the original bomb had no viable explosive left so was never a danger in the first place.</p><p>Determining which are currently dead and which are still live is tricky.  The cheapest, fastest, and safest way is to just blow them all up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The whole point of setting off a bomb next to a bigger bomb is to ensure that any viable explosives will go off.Large boom = the original bomb was a danger and the danger is gone.Small boom = the original bomb had no viable explosive left so was never a danger in the first place.Determining which are currently dead and which are still live is tricky .
The cheapest , fastest , and safest way is to just blow them all up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The whole point of setting off a bomb next to a bigger bomb is to ensure that any viable explosives will go off.Large boom = the original bomb was a danger and the danger is gone.Small boom = the original bomb had no viable explosive left so was never a danger in the first place.Determining which are currently dead and which are still live is tricky.
The cheapest, fastest, and safest way is to just blow them all up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159904</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160346</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266315300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They certainly are.</p><p>Here in the UK we often have a problem of unexploded ordinance and I would imagine countries like France, Germany et al. do also. Unexploded bombs in land or mines at sea dating back to World War II are usually found a few times a year here in the UK and are generally detonated because they are not safe to simply move, although some are safe enough to just move.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They certainly are.Here in the UK we often have a problem of unexploded ordinance and I would imagine countries like France , Germany et al .
do also .
Unexploded bombs in land or mines at sea dating back to World War II are usually found a few times a year here in the UK and are generally detonated because they are not safe to simply move , although some are safe enough to just move .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They certainly are.Here in the UK we often have a problem of unexploded ordinance and I would imagine countries like France, Germany et al.
do also.
Unexploded bombs in land or mines at sea dating back to World War II are usually found a few times a year here in the UK and are generally detonated because they are not safe to simply move, although some are safe enough to just move.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160174</id>
	<title>Where do I submit my CV?</title>
	<author>gblackwo</author>
	<datestamp>1266314520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Badass.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Badass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Badass.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161974</id>
	<title>Just take them out of the environment</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1266323220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Otherwise a ship might hit one and cause the front to fall off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Otherwise a ship might hit one and cause the front to fall off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Otherwise a ship might hit one and cause the front to fall off.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160410</id>
	<title>I've found my new career!</title>
	<author>mweather</author>
	<datestamp>1266315600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was undecided on whether to go into robotics or demolitions. Now I don't have to choose!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was undecided on whether to go into robotics or demolitions .
Now I do n't have to choose !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was undecided on whether to go into robotics or demolitions.
Now I don't have to choose!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161518</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>cptdondo</author>
	<datestamp>1266320760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why take the risk?  One lucky mine could ruin your whole day.</p><p>I lived in Charleston, SC for a while. It was not too unusual to dig up unexplosed ordinance from the Civil war; some of it was still dangerous.</p><p>Unless you want to die, treat all unexploded ordinance as dangerous; the older, the more dangerous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why take the risk ?
One lucky mine could ruin your whole day.I lived in Charleston , SC for a while .
It was not too unusual to dig up unexplosed ordinance from the Civil war ; some of it was still dangerous.Unless you want to die , treat all unexploded ordinance as dangerous ; the older , the more dangerous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why take the risk?
One lucky mine could ruin your whole day.I lived in Charleston, SC for a while.
It was not too unusual to dig up unexplosed ordinance from the Civil war; some of it was still dangerous.Unless you want to die, treat all unexploded ordinance as dangerous; the older, the more dangerous.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159914</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160664</id>
	<title>Re:Neat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266316920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Once in a while one of these mines are caught by a fishing vessel, and there has been at least one accident. But that was in 1969. (There might have been more, but my google-fu is limited)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Once in a while one of these mines are caught by a fishing vessel , and there has been at least one accident .
But that was in 1969 .
( There might have been more , but my google-fu is limited )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once in a while one of these mines are caught by a fishing vessel, and there has been at least one accident.
But that was in 1969.
(There might have been more, but my google-fu is limited)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31165348</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266345120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same here in germany. Once in a while (was more often twenty years ago when they systematically searched for it with old aerials) streets in a radius of some hundred Meters are evacuated because a bomb is found when excavating.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same here in germany .
Once in a while ( was more often twenty years ago when they systematically searched for it with old aerials ) streets in a radius of some hundred Meters are evacuated because a bomb is found when excavating .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same here in germany.
Once in a while (was more often twenty years ago when they systematically searched for it with old aerials) streets in a radius of some hundred Meters are evacuated because a bomb is found when excavating.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160276</id>
	<title>landmines</title>
	<author>MrKaos</author>
	<datestamp>1266315000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If only it was so profitable to remove landmines and stop them from performing their gruesome task.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If only it was so profitable to remove landmines and stop them from performing their gruesome task .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only it was so profitable to remove landmines and stop them from performing their gruesome task.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159888</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>tompaulco</author>
	<datestamp>1266313500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>There probably aren't a lot of plants that far down, but there would be lots of invertebrates. Poor invertebrates have all the bad luck. Perhaps one day they will learn the evolutionary advantage of being cute and furry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There probably are n't a lot of plants that far down , but there would be lots of invertebrates .
Poor invertebrates have all the bad luck .
Perhaps one day they will learn the evolutionary advantage of being cute and furry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There probably aren't a lot of plants that far down, but there would be lots of invertebrates.
Poor invertebrates have all the bad luck.
Perhaps one day they will learn the evolutionary advantage of being cute and furry.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160076</id>
	<title>Re:what about the corals</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266314160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The shock wave is not a problem, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur\_mustard#Disposal" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">this</a> [wikipedia.org] is a problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The shock wave is not a problem , this [ wikipedia.org ] is a problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The shock wave is not a problem, this [wikipedia.org] is a problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160218</id>
	<title>Re:Neat</title>
	<author>compro01</author>
	<datestamp>1266314760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wonder what kind of explosive is that reliable.</p></div><p>They're <strong>German</strong> mines.  Of course they'll still work!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>But in seriousness, if they don't detonate after having 5 kilos of high explosive blow up on top of them, they're probably not going to detonate ever, and thus aren't a problem.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wonder what kind of explosive is that reliable.They 're German mines .
Of course they 'll still work !
; ) But in seriousness , if they do n't detonate after having 5 kilos of high explosive blow up on top of them , they 're probably not going to detonate ever , and thus are n't a problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wonder what kind of explosive is that reliable.They're German mines.
Of course they'll still work!
;)But in seriousness, if they don't detonate after having 5 kilos of high explosive blow up on top of them, they're probably not going to detonate ever, and thus aren't a problem.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161214</id>
	<title>Re:Mines that old really still dangerous?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266319380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yeah, especially in the eastern part of Berlin they found and still find lots of old bombs because of the intense rebuilding after the reunion. My estimation of the radio messages we got it's like 5 times a year that a part of Berlin is evacuated because they found another bomb and fear it's going BOOM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah , especially in the eastern part of Berlin they found and still find lots of old bombs because of the intense rebuilding after the reunion .
My estimation of the radio messages we got it 's like 5 times a year that a part of Berlin is evacuated because they found another bomb and fear it 's going BOOM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah, especially in the eastern part of Berlin they found and still find lots of old bombs because of the intense rebuilding after the reunion.
My estimation of the radio messages we got it's like 5 times a year that a part of Berlin is evacuated because they found another bomb and fear it's going BOOM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161606</id>
	<title>Re:150,000 mines</title>
	<author>cdrguru</author>
	<datestamp>1266321180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not all 150,000 pieces of ordinace are mines - there are plenty of unexploded bombs and other stuff that goes BOOM as well.  But probably only a small fraction of this is in the way of the pipeline.</p><p>Now, if people regularly walked to work over the floor of the Black Sea or if it was somehow a major transportation corridor, there might be some interest in doing something about them.  But anything that is in hundreds of feet of water that isn't in the way is probably better left alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not all 150,000 pieces of ordinace are mines - there are plenty of unexploded bombs and other stuff that goes BOOM as well .
But probably only a small fraction of this is in the way of the pipeline.Now , if people regularly walked to work over the floor of the Black Sea or if it was somehow a major transportation corridor , there might be some interest in doing something about them .
But anything that is in hundreds of feet of water that is n't in the way is probably better left alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not all 150,000 pieces of ordinace are mines - there are plenty of unexploded bombs and other stuff that goes BOOM as well.
But probably only a small fraction of this is in the way of the pipeline.Now, if people regularly walked to work over the floor of the Black Sea or if it was somehow a major transportation corridor, there might be some interest in doing something about them.
But anything that is in hundreds of feet of water that isn't in the way is probably better left alone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159898</id>
	<title>Good news!</title>
	<author>MahJongKong</author>
	<datestamp>1266313500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope that around 2050 we'll take care of Afghanistan, once Rwanda is done around 2035.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope that around 2050 we 'll take care of Afghanistan , once Rwanda is done around 2035 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope that around 2050 we'll take care of Afghanistan, once Rwanda is done around 2035.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159978</id>
	<title>Re:Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1266313800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>5Kg of modern explosive will explode the mine even if the mine's explosives are inert.  If there's no secondary explosion, the contents will be dissipated enough to make them harmless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>5Kg of modern explosive will explode the mine even if the mine 's explosives are inert .
If there 's no secondary explosion , the contents will be dissipated enough to make them harmless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>5Kg of modern explosive will explode the mine even if the mine's explosives are inert.
If there's no secondary explosion, the contents will be dissipated enough to make them harmless.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31162228</id>
	<title>Re:Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>BitHive</author>
	<datestamp>1266324480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't say for sure where their confidence comes from but it probably has something to do with the fact that this project is part of their jobs and you're just some guy posting the first thing he thinks of after seeing a summary on Slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't say for sure where their confidence comes from but it probably has something to do with the fact that this project is part of their jobs and you 're just some guy posting the first thing he thinks of after seeing a summary on Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't say for sure where their confidence comes from but it probably has something to do with the fact that this project is part of their jobs and you're just some guy posting the first thing he thinks of after seeing a summary on Slashdot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31161280</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>carabela</author>
	<datestamp>1266319620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But there are really interesting shipwrecks, including some from WWII.
Here's one example of a soviet sub near Stockholm: <a href="http://www.abc.se/~pa/uwa/s7.htm" title="www.abc.se" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.se/~pa/uwa/s7.htm</a> [www.abc.se]
And a small selection of other misc wrecks: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Shipwrecks\_in\_the\_Baltic\_Sea" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Shipwrecks\_in\_the\_Baltic\_Sea</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>But there are really interesting shipwrecks , including some from WWII .
Here 's one example of a soviet sub near Stockholm : http : //www.abc.se/ ~ pa/uwa/s7.htm [ www.abc.se ] And a small selection of other misc wrecks : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category : Shipwrecks \ _in \ _the \ _Baltic \ _Sea [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But there are really interesting shipwrecks, including some from WWII.
Here's one example of a soviet sub near Stockholm: http://www.abc.se/~pa/uwa/s7.htm [www.abc.se]
And a small selection of other misc wrecks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Shipwrecks\_in\_the\_Baltic\_Sea [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31174320</id>
	<title>Re:Save everything that can move away fast enough?</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1265056320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hitler clearly regretted having put those mines there. I mean, the man committed suicide when he realized the full scope of WWII's outcome.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hitler clearly regretted having put those mines there .
I mean , the man committed suicide when he realized the full scope of WWII 's outcome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hitler clearly regretted having put those mines there.
I mean, the man committed suicide when he realized the full scope of WWII's outcome.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159918</id>
	<title>Job Security</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266313620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with all that warning going on, how long does the process take, like 5 min</p><p>* 150,000 * the time to find each one</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with all that warning going on , how long does the process take , like 5 min * 150,000 * the time to find each one</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with all that warning going on, how long does the process take, like 5 min* 150,000 * the time to find each one</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31159904</id>
	<title>Will the mines explore</title>
	<author>DarkOx</author>
	<datestamp>1266313560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What makes them think the mines will explode?  I mean its not like these things were engineered to last 60 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes them think the mines will explode ?
I mean its not like these things were engineered to last 60 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes them think the mines will explode?
I mean its not like these things were engineered to last 60 years.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160876</id>
	<title>Re:Neat</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1266317820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TNT?  Any explosive put in Bakelite or any one of a number of cheap plastics commonly available in that era?</p><p>And many mines are built with motion/impact detection, usually made of glass.  And if they are blowing the mines up with explosive, it won't matter whether the trigger mechanism works or not.  If they were trying to retrieve the mines, that would be a valid concern, but that's why exploding them with additional explosive is the smart way to get rid of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TNT ?
Any explosive put in Bakelite or any one of a number of cheap plastics commonly available in that era ? And many mines are built with motion/impact detection , usually made of glass .
And if they are blowing the mines up with explosive , it wo n't matter whether the trigger mechanism works or not .
If they were trying to retrieve the mines , that would be a valid concern , but that 's why exploding them with additional explosive is the smart way to get rid of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TNT?
Any explosive put in Bakelite or any one of a number of cheap plastics commonly available in that era?And many mines are built with motion/impact detection, usually made of glass.
And if they are blowing the mines up with explosive, it won't matter whether the trigger mechanism works or not.
If they were trying to retrieve the mines, that would be a valid concern, but that's why exploding them with additional explosive is the smart way to get rid of them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31164410</id>
	<title>Re:oh, "mines" not "mimes"</title>
	<author>Nefarious Wheel</author>
	<datestamp>1266338820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One day robots will use humans to dispose of <b>memes</b>...won't be so funny then...</p></div><p>There, fixed that for you.</p><p>Oh, wait...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One day robots will use humans to dispose of memes...wo n't be so funny then...There , fixed that for you.Oh , wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One day robots will use humans to dispose of memes...won't be so funny then...There, fixed that for you.Oh, wait...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160448</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160328</id>
	<title>Origin of Mines?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266315180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time, or were they intended to get subs?  Skimmed the article but didn't see that detail.  Seems they're a bit too deep to be intended for surface ships, yeah?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time , or were they intended to get subs ?
Skimmed the article but did n't see that detail .
Seems they 're a bit too deep to be intended for surface ships , yeah ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time, or were they intended to get subs?
Skimmed the article but didn't see that detail.
Seems they're a bit too deep to be intended for surface ships, yeah?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1836230.31160280</id>
	<title>Re:what about the corals</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266315000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the North Sea?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the North Sea ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the North Sea?</sentencetext>
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