<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_15_1458210</id>
	<title>Does Microsoft Finally Have a Phone Worth Buying?</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1266246000000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Microsoft has finally shown 'Windows Phone 7 Series' and it's supposed to be a <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-hands-on-and-impressions/">completely new smartphone OS</a>. A phone from Microsoft to get excited about that is going to work properly and take on the iPhone's world domination? "</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Microsoft has finally shown 'Windows Phone 7 Series ' and it 's supposed to be a completely new smartphone OS .
A phone from Microsoft to get excited about that is going to work properly and take on the iPhone 's world domination ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft has finally shown 'Windows Phone 7 Series' and it's supposed to be a completely new smartphone OS.
A phone from Microsoft to get excited about that is going to work properly and take on the iPhone's world domination?
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31148606</id>
	<title>Software quality</title>
	<author>slyborg</author>
	<datestamp>1266228540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I test WinMo phones with our client software extensively, on multiple platforms, and it is by far the most unstable. Basically, it's BB &gt; iPhone &gt; Symbian &gt; WinMo 6 in terms of platform stability. If Redmond can deliver the same improvement in this that they did with Win 7 desktop, they have a chance. Possibly. Unlike in desktop, where they had an effective monopoly, the handset marketplace is very competitive. If they screw this up, they'll be baked for good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I test WinMo phones with our client software extensively , on multiple platforms , and it is by far the most unstable .
Basically , it 's BB &gt; iPhone &gt; Symbian &gt; WinMo 6 in terms of platform stability .
If Redmond can deliver the same improvement in this that they did with Win 7 desktop , they have a chance .
Possibly. Unlike in desktop , where they had an effective monopoly , the handset marketplace is very competitive .
If they screw this up , they 'll be baked for good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I test WinMo phones with our client software extensively, on multiple platforms, and it is by far the most unstable.
Basically, it's BB &gt; iPhone &gt; Symbian &gt; WinMo 6 in terms of platform stability.
If Redmond can deliver the same improvement in this that they did with Win 7 desktop, they have a chance.
Possibly. Unlike in desktop, where they had an effective monopoly, the handset marketplace is very competitive.
If they screw this up, they'll be baked for good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144850</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>dubbreak</author>
	<datestamp>1266253140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There is no good widget set, there is no clear UI design guideline, and there is no good way to develop an app that doesn't end up feeling like a clunky mess. The iPhone, on the other hand, has a widget set that is reusable and has intuitive usage, there are very clear design guidelines, and most of all there are real artists who want to make apps for the platform.</p></div><p>To me this is the most important change required to make this successful. I dev for WinCE currently (not phones, but the product does have a UI and a small touch screen). The tools suck. MS doesn't have a nice widget set like Apple. You want anything pretty or intuitive that doesn't look like it's straight out of windows 2000 you either have to build it yourself or dish out and pay for a 3rd party kits (which would be fine if the pickings weren't so lean). <br> <br>
I've dabbled with xcode and what's available for the iphone (I have a mac and itouch, just limited time to play), and what's available is a world of difference. Plus they have UI guidelines which I see as a good thing since consistency is a very important part of HCI. The tools combined with the guidelines mean it's easy for a developer to create an application that looks and feels like it belongs on the iphone and doesn't clash with the metaphors of the initial interface. To me this makes the iphone and apps feel cohesive instead of an OS and Apps that you happen to throw on there. It's the cohesiveness that makes it better than previous offering in the arena.<br> <br>
If MS steps up to the plate and creates some great tools things could be interesting. Mobile tools haven't been release for VS2010 yet, so maybe this is why they have been delayed...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no good widget set , there is no clear UI design guideline , and there is no good way to develop an app that does n't end up feeling like a clunky mess .
The iPhone , on the other hand , has a widget set that is reusable and has intuitive usage , there are very clear design guidelines , and most of all there are real artists who want to make apps for the platform.To me this is the most important change required to make this successful .
I dev for WinCE currently ( not phones , but the product does have a UI and a small touch screen ) .
The tools suck .
MS does n't have a nice widget set like Apple .
You want anything pretty or intuitive that does n't look like it 's straight out of windows 2000 you either have to build it yourself or dish out and pay for a 3rd party kits ( which would be fine if the pickings were n't so lean ) .
I 've dabbled with xcode and what 's available for the iphone ( I have a mac and itouch , just limited time to play ) , and what 's available is a world of difference .
Plus they have UI guidelines which I see as a good thing since consistency is a very important part of HCI .
The tools combined with the guidelines mean it 's easy for a developer to create an application that looks and feels like it belongs on the iphone and does n't clash with the metaphors of the initial interface .
To me this makes the iphone and apps feel cohesive instead of an OS and Apps that you happen to throw on there .
It 's the cohesiveness that makes it better than previous offering in the arena .
If MS steps up to the plate and creates some great tools things could be interesting .
Mobile tools have n't been release for VS2010 yet , so maybe this is why they have been delayed.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no good widget set, there is no clear UI design guideline, and there is no good way to develop an app that doesn't end up feeling like a clunky mess.
The iPhone, on the other hand, has a widget set that is reusable and has intuitive usage, there are very clear design guidelines, and most of all there are real artists who want to make apps for the platform.To me this is the most important change required to make this successful.
I dev for WinCE currently (not phones, but the product does have a UI and a small touch screen).
The tools suck.
MS doesn't have a nice widget set like Apple.
You want anything pretty or intuitive that doesn't look like it's straight out of windows 2000 you either have to build it yourself or dish out and pay for a 3rd party kits (which would be fine if the pickings weren't so lean).
I've dabbled with xcode and what's available for the iphone (I have a mac and itouch, just limited time to play), and what's available is a world of difference.
Plus they have UI guidelines which I see as a good thing since consistency is a very important part of HCI.
The tools combined with the guidelines mean it's easy for a developer to create an application that looks and feels like it belongs on the iphone and doesn't clash with the metaphors of the initial interface.
To me this makes the iphone and apps feel cohesive instead of an OS and Apps that you happen to throw on there.
It's the cohesiveness that makes it better than previous offering in the arena.
If MS steps up to the plate and creates some great tools things could be interesting.
Mobile tools haven't been release for VS2010 yet, so maybe this is why they have been delayed...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144176</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31148092</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Phone 7 Series Video</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266226080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure this isn't just a mock up? Kinda in the fashion of say<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... longhorn or that other pad/slate vapourware<br>that'll never be<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Waaay too much stuff happening on the screen, incomplete text that didn't fit on the screen<br>kept appearing, too much focus on photos. Too many bouncy items on the screen as well<br>that'll make your battery drain quickly<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>And the dude got 20 emails without opening or reading even one in the whole video<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... !?</p><p>not convinced.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure this is n't just a mock up ?
Kinda in the fashion of say ... longhorn or that other pad/slate vapourwarethat 'll never be ...Waaay too much stuff happening on the screen , incomplete text that did n't fit on the screenkept appearing , too much focus on photos .
Too many bouncy items on the screen as wellthat 'll make your battery drain quickly ...And the dude got 20 emails without opening or reading even one in the whole video .. .
! ? not convinced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure this isn't just a mock up?
Kinda in the fashion of say ... longhorn or that other pad/slate vapourwarethat'll never be ...Waaay too much stuff happening on the screen, incomplete text that didn't fit on the screenkept appearing, too much focus on photos.
Too many bouncy items on the screen as wellthat'll make your battery drain quickly ...And the dude got 20 emails without opening or reading even one in the whole video ...
!?not convinced.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144338</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144726</id>
	<title>Re:unfairly burdened by Microsoft management</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266252720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>For exactly the same reason that Google has been branching out into OSes and Office suites, I'd expect.<br> <br>

Secondarily, the hope to make some money at it; but, primarily, the hope to disrupt a competitor's area of strength before that competitor is able to use it to expand.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For exactly the same reason that Google has been branching out into OSes and Office suites , I 'd expect .
Secondarily , the hope to make some money at it ; but , primarily , the hope to disrupt a competitor 's area of strength before that competitor is able to use it to expand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For exactly the same reason that Google has been branching out into OSes and Office suites, I'd expect.
Secondarily, the hope to make some money at it; but, primarily, the hope to disrupt a competitor's area of strength before that competitor is able to use it to expand.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144266</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145774</id>
	<title>Re:Will have to wait and see</title>
	<author>Rexdude</author>
	<datestamp>1266257640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why on earth won't it support multitasking when the previous versions have done so quite well? That's like asking whether Windows 7 will support these newfangled things called mice.

Multitasking is not even a feature to ask about unless you're coming from the Apple camp. I don't even have to think about the <a href="http://www.killermobile.com/applications/symbian-s60/blackballer-pro-s60.html" title="killermobile.com">call blocker</a> [killermobile.com],<a href="http://www.nimbuzz.com/" title="nimbuzz.com">chat program</a> [nimbuzz.com], background email checker and <a href="http://www.smartphoneware.com/gsmnavigator-for-s60-3rd-edition-product.php" title="smartphoneware.com">GSM cell detector/reminder</a> [smartphoneware.com] that I usually run. I can switch between them, run a game that gets paused when I get a call/SMS and resumes afterwards. And I've been able to do this since <a href="http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia\_6630-811.php" title="gsmarena.com">my first Symbian phone</a> [gsmarena.com] in 2005.

Every mobile OS other than Apple's has supported multitasking right from the start.
Just as how reviewers actually used copy/paste as a parameter to compare the iPhone with other handsets when Apple finally added it as an update!

This is anyway just a preview- we don't yet have fullblown handsets on the market to test scrolling and other features.
And for heaven's sake get over the 'iPhone domination'.  Everything doesn't have to be positioned against the bloody iPhone, it is unfortunate that all the major tech news sites are American, and have never seen a smartphone OS before 2007.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why on earth wo n't it support multitasking when the previous versions have done so quite well ?
That 's like asking whether Windows 7 will support these newfangled things called mice .
Multitasking is not even a feature to ask about unless you 're coming from the Apple camp .
I do n't even have to think about the call blocker [ killermobile.com ] ,chat program [ nimbuzz.com ] , background email checker and GSM cell detector/reminder [ smartphoneware.com ] that I usually run .
I can switch between them , run a game that gets paused when I get a call/SMS and resumes afterwards .
And I 've been able to do this since my first Symbian phone [ gsmarena.com ] in 2005 .
Every mobile OS other than Apple 's has supported multitasking right from the start .
Just as how reviewers actually used copy/paste as a parameter to compare the iPhone with other handsets when Apple finally added it as an update !
This is anyway just a preview- we do n't yet have fullblown handsets on the market to test scrolling and other features .
And for heaven 's sake get over the 'iPhone domination' .
Everything does n't have to be positioned against the bloody iPhone , it is unfortunate that all the major tech news sites are American , and have never seen a smartphone OS before 2007 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why on earth won't it support multitasking when the previous versions have done so quite well?
That's like asking whether Windows 7 will support these newfangled things called mice.
Multitasking is not even a feature to ask about unless you're coming from the Apple camp.
I don't even have to think about the call blocker [killermobile.com],chat program [nimbuzz.com], background email checker and GSM cell detector/reminder [smartphoneware.com] that I usually run.
I can switch between them, run a game that gets paused when I get a call/SMS and resumes afterwards.
And I've been able to do this since my first Symbian phone [gsmarena.com] in 2005.
Every mobile OS other than Apple's has supported multitasking right from the start.
Just as how reviewers actually used copy/paste as a parameter to compare the iPhone with other handsets when Apple finally added it as an update!
This is anyway just a preview- we don't yet have fullblown handsets on the market to test scrolling and other features.
And for heaven's sake get over the 'iPhone domination'.
Everything doesn't have to be positioned against the bloody iPhone, it is unfortunate that all the major tech news sites are American, and have never seen a smartphone OS before 2007.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144174</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144874</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>RyuuzakiTetsuya</author>
	<datestamp>1266253260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>not to mention there were only a small variety of iPhones versus god knows how many Blackberry devices currently available on the market for god knows how many networks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>not to mention there were only a small variety of iPhones versus god knows how many Blackberry devices currently available on the market for god knows how many networks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>not to mention there were only a small variety of iPhones versus god knows how many Blackberry devices currently available on the market for god knows how many networks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144406</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144338</id>
	<title>Windows Phone 7 Series Video</title>
	<author>smackenzie</author>
	<datestamp>1266251160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Has anyone posted this video of the interface yet?<br>
<a href="http://www.windowsphone7series.com/multimedia/Media2" title="windowsphone7series.com">http://www.windowsphone7series.com/multimedia/Media2</a> [windowsphone7series.com] <br>
<br>
I hope they keep the UI design team that put this together.  It's a refreshing change from the escalating UI-candy wars.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone posted this video of the interface yet ?
http : //www.windowsphone7series.com/multimedia/Media2 [ windowsphone7series.com ] I hope they keep the UI design team that put this together .
It 's a refreshing change from the escalating UI-candy wars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone posted this video of the interface yet?
http://www.windowsphone7series.com/multimedia/Media2 [windowsphone7series.com] 

I hope they keep the UI design team that put this together.
It's a refreshing change from the escalating UI-candy wars.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31150394</id>
	<title>Death of the OEM</title>
	<author>BodeNGE</author>
	<datestamp>1266237720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sadly this means the end of the remaining few Window Mobile OEM.  What is the incentive to produce a product that is so similar to what HTC can pump out?<p>
Microsoft has always pushed a direct relationship between manufacturers and Operaters and continue to do so with the Windows Phone Series.  Unfortunately this is detrimental to pretty much everyone.  The usual value chain in the mobile phone industry is that an ODM manufactures the handset and does software integration.  An OEM picks up the handset and adds branding, logistics, operator approval, distribution partners and possibly some novel software.  The OEM then sells to retail or operators.  They also take the monatary risk on forward ordering from the ODM and smooth out peaks and troughs in the device supply to simplify things for the ODM.  With a unified UI and hardware specs what incentive is there for the OEM?</p><p>
When you don't have an OEM in the middle then device approvals take much longer, and bugs slip through.  HTC's Nexus One should never have gone to market in such a poor state.  3G is still not working properly.  An OEM in the loop would have tested the device on AT&amp;T and T-Mobile before launch.  Google don't have the necessary experience to do that, HTC still don't (although after killing off their OEM partners two years ago they SHOULD have by now.</p><p>
What worries me most is that Microsoft is closing the door on the whole OEM model.  This means Operators become more wary of new phones, the money isn't forward loaded into the ODM from distributors to develop the phones in the first place.  Who will be paying the NRE on a new handset?  Microsoft, the operators, or the ODM?  Without any incentive for the OEM to produce a differntated product the whole cycle will fail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly this means the end of the remaining few Window Mobile OEM .
What is the incentive to produce a product that is so similar to what HTC can pump out ?
Microsoft has always pushed a direct relationship between manufacturers and Operaters and continue to do so with the Windows Phone Series .
Unfortunately this is detrimental to pretty much everyone .
The usual value chain in the mobile phone industry is that an ODM manufactures the handset and does software integration .
An OEM picks up the handset and adds branding , logistics , operator approval , distribution partners and possibly some novel software .
The OEM then sells to retail or operators .
They also take the monatary risk on forward ordering from the ODM and smooth out peaks and troughs in the device supply to simplify things for the ODM .
With a unified UI and hardware specs what incentive is there for the OEM ?
When you do n't have an OEM in the middle then device approvals take much longer , and bugs slip through .
HTC 's Nexus One should never have gone to market in such a poor state .
3G is still not working properly .
An OEM in the loop would have tested the device on AT&amp;T and T-Mobile before launch .
Google do n't have the necessary experience to do that , HTC still do n't ( although after killing off their OEM partners two years ago they SHOULD have by now .
What worries me most is that Microsoft is closing the door on the whole OEM model .
This means Operators become more wary of new phones , the money is n't forward loaded into the ODM from distributors to develop the phones in the first place .
Who will be paying the NRE on a new handset ?
Microsoft , the operators , or the ODM ?
Without any incentive for the OEM to produce a differntated product the whole cycle will fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly this means the end of the remaining few Window Mobile OEM.
What is the incentive to produce a product that is so similar to what HTC can pump out?
Microsoft has always pushed a direct relationship between manufacturers and Operaters and continue to do so with the Windows Phone Series.
Unfortunately this is detrimental to pretty much everyone.
The usual value chain in the mobile phone industry is that an ODM manufactures the handset and does software integration.
An OEM picks up the handset and adds branding, logistics, operator approval, distribution partners and possibly some novel software.
The OEM then sells to retail or operators.
They also take the monatary risk on forward ordering from the ODM and smooth out peaks and troughs in the device supply to simplify things for the ODM.
With a unified UI and hardware specs what incentive is there for the OEM?
When you don't have an OEM in the middle then device approvals take much longer, and bugs slip through.
HTC's Nexus One should never have gone to market in such a poor state.
3G is still not working properly.
An OEM in the loop would have tested the device on AT&amp;T and T-Mobile before launch.
Google don't have the necessary experience to do that, HTC still don't (although after killing off their OEM partners two years ago they SHOULD have by now.
What worries me most is that Microsoft is closing the door on the whole OEM model.
This means Operators become more wary of new phones, the money isn't forward loaded into the ODM from distributors to develop the phones in the first place.
Who will be paying the NRE on a new handset?
Microsoft, the operators, or the ODM?
Without any incentive for the OEM to produce a differntated product the whole cycle will fail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144884</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>derGoldstein</author>
	<datestamp>1266253320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>While that might sound like marketing gobbledygook</p></div><p>It does. I checked with my gobbledygook-o-meter, and it's screaming like a geiger counter in chernobyl.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>While that might sound like marketing gobbledygookIt does .
I checked with my gobbledygook-o-meter , and it 's screaming like a geiger counter in chernobyl .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While that might sound like marketing gobbledygookIt does.
I checked with my gobbledygook-o-meter, and it's screaming like a geiger counter in chernobyl.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144176</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145876</id>
	<title>Store approval gotcha</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266258240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait till developers experience the WM 7 app approval process. $99 to join the developer program, then $99 for each app sent for approval. If your app is rejected, back to the end of the line and another $99. That evil overlord Apple does not charge for app approvals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait till developers experience the WM 7 app approval process .
$ 99 to join the developer program , then $ 99 for each app sent for approval .
If your app is rejected , back to the end of the line and another $ 99 .
That evil overlord Apple does not charge for app approvals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait till developers experience the WM 7 app approval process.
$99 to join the developer program, then $99 for each app sent for approval.
If your app is rejected, back to the end of the line and another $99.
That evil overlord Apple does not charge for app approvals.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146410</id>
	<title>Re:Yeah...</title>
	<author>s73v3r</author>
	<datestamp>1266260940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, if you want any semblance of battery life, you do...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , if you want any semblance of battery life , you do.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, if you want any semblance of battery life, you do...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144256</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144416</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266251520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Mobile BSOD, right? Need a hit of Blue, just turn your phone on.</p></div><p>The 90s called, they want their joke back.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Whether a person likes Microsoft or not (I don't, of course - I'm typing in a Links browser, while a wait for a FreeBSD to compile some stuff, lol) they are late to the phone game.</p></div><p>So you run BSD because you hate Microsoft and not because you love BSD? That's pretty sad.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mobile BSOD , right ?
Need a hit of Blue , just turn your phone on.The 90s called , they want their joke back.Whether a person likes Microsoft or not ( I do n't , of course - I 'm typing in a Links browser , while a wait for a FreeBSD to compile some stuff , lol ) they are late to the phone game.So you run BSD because you hate Microsoft and not because you love BSD ?
That 's pretty sad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mobile BSOD, right?
Need a hit of Blue, just turn your phone on.The 90s called, they want their joke back.Whether a person likes Microsoft or not (I don't, of course - I'm typing in a Links browser, while a wait for a FreeBSD to compile some stuff, lol) they are late to the phone game.So you run BSD because you hate Microsoft and not because you love BSD?
That's pretty sad.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144216</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31151548</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, you've got me listening...</title>
	<author>grouchomarxist</author>
	<datestamp>1266248340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check out this video previously posted by smackenzie. A flat look without much shading, but plenty of transitions: <a href="http://www.windowsphone7series.com/multimedia/Media2" title="windowsphone7series.com">http://www.windowsphone7series.com/multimedia/Media2</a> [windowsphone7series.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out this video previously posted by smackenzie .
A flat look without much shading , but plenty of transitions : http : //www.windowsphone7series.com/multimedia/Media2 [ windowsphone7series.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out this video previously posted by smackenzie.
A flat look without much shading, but plenty of transitions: http://www.windowsphone7series.com/multimedia/Media2 [windowsphone7series.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144412</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144310</id>
	<title>Will it make and receive calls?</title>
	<author>micron</author>
	<datestamp>1266251040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a serious step 1 here. I have had several Windows Mobile phones in the past. What sold me on the iPhone was that I could hear the phone ring, and actually receive the call. With Windows Mobile, more often than not, I would get the call.. go to answer... phone locks up... reboot phone... call person back. FAIL on the basic UI of the phone. The other features would work well... just often found myself rebooting the phone when it came time to get a call.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a serious step 1 here .
I have had several Windows Mobile phones in the past .
What sold me on the iPhone was that I could hear the phone ring , and actually receive the call .
With Windows Mobile , more often than not , I would get the call.. go to answer... phone locks up... reboot phone... call person back .
FAIL on the basic UI of the phone .
The other features would work well... just often found myself rebooting the phone when it came time to get a call .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a serious step 1 here.
I have had several Windows Mobile phones in the past.
What sold me on the iPhone was that I could hear the phone ring, and actually receive the call.
With Windows Mobile, more often than not, I would get the call.. go to answer... phone locks up... reboot phone... call person back.
FAIL on the basic UI of the phone.
The other features would work well... just often found myself rebooting the phone when it came time to get a call.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146754</id>
	<title>Re:Will have to wait and see</title>
	<author>Gordo\_1</author>
	<datestamp>1266262800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does it support multitasking?</p></div><p>My blackberry Bold supports multitasking. What to know what else? I have to manually prune the running app list almost every day when the phone inexplicably becomes unusable due to various 3rd-party app memory leaks. Then again the screen is too small to have a taskbar that shows at-a-glance what's actually running in the background taking up memory or CPU, so I have to click a button and open a menu and scroll around hunting for apps to kill one at a time until the phone becomes responsive again. We all know Apple could do the multitasking thing, but based on my experience with Blackberry, I have no doubt why they didn't want to gift this 'functionality' to users.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it support multitasking ? My blackberry Bold supports multitasking .
What to know what else ?
I have to manually prune the running app list almost every day when the phone inexplicably becomes unusable due to various 3rd-party app memory leaks .
Then again the screen is too small to have a taskbar that shows at-a-glance what 's actually running in the background taking up memory or CPU , so I have to click a button and open a menu and scroll around hunting for apps to kill one at a time until the phone becomes responsive again .
We all know Apple could do the multitasking thing , but based on my experience with Blackberry , I have no doubt why they did n't want to gift this 'functionality ' to users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it support multitasking?My blackberry Bold supports multitasking.
What to know what else?
I have to manually prune the running app list almost every day when the phone inexplicably becomes unusable due to various 3rd-party app memory leaks.
Then again the screen is too small to have a taskbar that shows at-a-glance what's actually running in the background taking up memory or CPU, so I have to click a button and open a menu and scroll around hunting for apps to kill one at a time until the phone becomes responsive again.
We all know Apple could do the multitasking thing, but based on my experience with Blackberry, I have no doubt why they didn't want to gift this 'functionality' to users.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144174</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145114</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>517714</author>
	<datestamp>1266254520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It isn't deep, it is (a) square - the only orthagonal symmetric plane figure.</p><p>Seamlessness in the user interface means one will be unable to determine which menu to select, or which application one is in.  Ease of use is so 90's.</p><p>As an enthusiatic user of Windows 5 and 6.1 I wish they would leave the interface more or less alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is n't deep , it is ( a ) square - the only orthagonal symmetric plane figure.Seamlessness in the user interface means one will be unable to determine which menu to select , or which application one is in .
Ease of use is so 90 's.As an enthusiatic user of Windows 5 and 6.1 I wish they would leave the interface more or less alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It isn't deep, it is (a) square - the only orthagonal symmetric plane figure.Seamlessness in the user interface means one will be unable to determine which menu to select, or which application one is in.
Ease of use is so 90's.As an enthusiatic user of Windows 5 and 6.1 I wish they would leave the interface more or less alone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144518</id>
	<title>Re:Hardware dictation = fail?</title>
	<author>Overzeetop</author>
	<datestamp>1266251940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, this is why the iPhone is a success. Developers don't have to wonder which of the 400 variants of phone might be using their software, at what resolution, with what hardware capabilities.  The iPhone works because there is a great deal less development required to get software to work on the devices - less testing and fewer hardware options makes for a much easier job on the software end.</p><p>The one thing Apple has right is unifying the user experience. There's no shame in taking that part they do well and improving on that to make it useful for people that use their phone to work for a living.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , this is why the iPhone is a success .
Developers do n't have to wonder which of the 400 variants of phone might be using their software , at what resolution , with what hardware capabilities .
The iPhone works because there is a great deal less development required to get software to work on the devices - less testing and fewer hardware options makes for a much easier job on the software end.The one thing Apple has right is unifying the user experience .
There 's no shame in taking that part they do well and improving on that to make it useful for people that use their phone to work for a living .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, this is why the iPhone is a success.
Developers don't have to wonder which of the 400 variants of phone might be using their software, at what resolution, with what hardware capabilities.
The iPhone works because there is a great deal less development required to get software to work on the devices - less testing and fewer hardware options makes for a much easier job on the software end.The one thing Apple has right is unifying the user experience.
There's no shame in taking that part they do well and improving on that to make it useful for people that use their phone to work for a living.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144346</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144588</id>
	<title>I'm sure it's just as good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266252180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As WinFS was by the time it shipped.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As WinFS was by the time it shipped .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As WinFS was by the time it shipped.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144256</id>
	<title>Yeah...</title>
	<author>Meekuu</author>
	<datestamp>1266250800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, that's the catch. You MUST drop flash support to be competitive in this market.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , that 's the catch .
You MUST drop flash support to be competitive in this market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, that's the catch.
You MUST drop flash support to be competitive in this market.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147488</id>
	<title>Re:I am not sure...</title>
	<author>RogerWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1266266160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry. But that's exactly what MS has been doing wrong: Trying to put a desktop OS on a handheld device.</p><p>What the iPhone did right was a complete rethink of what a user interface should look on a handheld device.</p><p>Take one example I know from personal experience on earlier Windows offerings:</p><p>scrollbars:</p><p>I'm lefthanded, if you really need to have a scrollbar in the UI, you should at least put it on the left, otherwise I can't see the screen when I need to use it.</p><p>It's not a PC. It's a handheld, that's the whole point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry .
But that 's exactly what MS has been doing wrong : Trying to put a desktop OS on a handheld device.What the iPhone did right was a complete rethink of what a user interface should look on a handheld device.Take one example I know from personal experience on earlier Windows offerings : scrollbars : I 'm lefthanded , if you really need to have a scrollbar in the UI , you should at least put it on the left , otherwise I ca n't see the screen when I need to use it.It 's not a PC .
It 's a handheld , that 's the whole point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry.
But that's exactly what MS has been doing wrong: Trying to put a desktop OS on a handheld device.What the iPhone did right was a complete rethink of what a user interface should look on a handheld device.Take one example I know from personal experience on earlier Windows offerings:scrollbars:I'm lefthanded, if you really need to have a scrollbar in the UI, you should at least put it on the left, otherwise I can't see the screen when I need to use it.It's not a PC.
It's a handheld, that's the whole point.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146376</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144174</id>
	<title>Will have to wait and see</title>
	<author>Blazarov</author>
	<datestamp>1266250200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are still a lot of questions to be answered, before I can say if I like it or not... Does it support multitasking? How are notifications handled? How efficient is the down-scrolling action compared to the sideways swipe in a real world usage? How would apps look with this spill-over-the-side text philosophy?
I agree that the fact that they have started completely from scratch is rather exciting, and also the minimalist design approach is rather bold, but until the above questions are answered it is hard to tell if this will end the "iPhone Domination"</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are still a lot of questions to be answered , before I can say if I like it or not... Does it support multitasking ?
How are notifications handled ?
How efficient is the down-scrolling action compared to the sideways swipe in a real world usage ?
How would apps look with this spill-over-the-side text philosophy ?
I agree that the fact that they have started completely from scratch is rather exciting , and also the minimalist design approach is rather bold , but until the above questions are answered it is hard to tell if this will end the " iPhone Domination "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are still a lot of questions to be answered, before I can say if I like it or not... Does it support multitasking?
How are notifications handled?
How efficient is the down-scrolling action compared to the sideways swipe in a real world usage?
How would apps look with this spill-over-the-side text philosophy?
I agree that the fact that they have started completely from scratch is rather exciting, and also the minimalist design approach is rather bold, but until the above questions are answered it is hard to tell if this will end the "iPhone Domination"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146510</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>MobileTatsu-NJG</author>
	<datestamp>1266261480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a pity the moderation system doesn't reward consistent principals like it does knee-jerk-big-company-bashing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a pity the moderation system does n't reward consistent principals like it does knee-jerk-big-company-bashing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a pity the moderation system doesn't reward consistent principals like it does knee-jerk-big-company-bashing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144998</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144266</id>
	<title>unfairly burdened by Microsoft management</title>
	<author>mr\_death</author>
	<datestamp>1266250860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if Windows Phone 7 (or whatever cute name marketing comes up with) is the best thing since sliced bread, Apple and Google will continue to release three software versions for Microsoft's one, ensuring that MS will once again be left in the dust.</p><p>
You have to wonder why MS continues to try their hand in areas where has no advantage -- or clue, really. The best engineers on the planet can't win in the face of poor management and squabbling VPs.</p><p>
Ballmer's arrogance knows no bounds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if Windows Phone 7 ( or whatever cute name marketing comes up with ) is the best thing since sliced bread , Apple and Google will continue to release three software versions for Microsoft 's one , ensuring that MS will once again be left in the dust .
You have to wonder why MS continues to try their hand in areas where has no advantage -- or clue , really .
The best engineers on the planet ca n't win in the face of poor management and squabbling VPs .
Ballmer 's arrogance knows no bounds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if Windows Phone 7 (or whatever cute name marketing comes up with) is the best thing since sliced bread, Apple and Google will continue to release three software versions for Microsoft's one, ensuring that MS will once again be left in the dust.
You have to wonder why MS continues to try their hand in areas where has no advantage -- or clue, really.
The best engineers on the planet can't win in the face of poor management and squabbling VPs.
Ballmer's arrogance knows no bounds.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145656</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>intheshelter</author>
	<datestamp>1266256980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Longhorn?  Does that come to mind?  That never really materialized at all.  It was stripped bare and released as Vista YEARS late, and then a late release for Windows 7 (aka Vista SP2).  How's that for a few examples?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Longhorn ?
Does that come to mind ?
That never really materialized at all .
It was stripped bare and released as Vista YEARS late , and then a late release for Windows 7 ( aka Vista SP2 ) .
How 's that for a few examples ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Longhorn?
Does that come to mind?
That never really materialized at all.
It was stripped bare and released as Vista YEARS late, and then a late release for Windows 7 (aka Vista SP2).
How's that for a few examples?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144240</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145148</id>
	<title>Re:Will it make and receive calls?</title>
	<author>abigsmurf</author>
	<datestamp>1266254640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've had the iphone fail to answer a call on two occasions (slider on the unlock screen wouldn't budge). Infrequent but it is an issue that lots of users occasionally get.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had the iphone fail to answer a call on two occasions ( slider on the unlock screen would n't budge ) .
Infrequent but it is an issue that lots of users occasionally get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had the iphone fail to answer a call on two occasions (slider on the unlock screen wouldn't budge).
Infrequent but it is an issue that lots of users occasionally get.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144310</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31169178</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>gollito</author>
	<datestamp>1265039940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ummmm.... ANY Blackberry?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ummmm.... ANY Blackberry ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ummmm.... ANY Blackberry?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144404</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146190</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Phone 7 Series Video</title>
	<author>BESTouff</author>
	<datestamp>1266259920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mmmh<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. all this white-on-blue things, for a Windows-based OS<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... looks all crashy to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mmmh .. all this white-on-blue things , for a Windows-based OS ... looks all crashy to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mmmh .. all this white-on-blue things, for a Windows-based OS ... looks all crashy to me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144718</id>
	<title>smhit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266252660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">foR *BSD because It a break, if my bedpost up my</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>foR * BSD because It a break , if my bedpost up my [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>foR *BSD because It a break, if my bedpost up my [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31149386</id>
	<title>Congratulations Microsoft</title>
	<author>twmcneil</author>
	<datestamp>1266232320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is seriously more astro-turfing than I have ever seen you do for any of your other products.  Good going Marketing Dept.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is seriously more astro-turfing than I have ever seen you do for any of your other products .
Good going Marketing Dept .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is seriously more astro-turfing than I have ever seen you do for any of your other products.
Good going Marketing Dept.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144468</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>jedrek</author>
	<datestamp>1266251760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Whether a person likes Microsoft or not [...] they are late to the phone game.</p></div><p>Microsoft's first OS for smartphones (Pocket PC 2002) was release in October 2001, that's over 5 years before Apple and a full 7 years before Google's foray into the mobile platform. You can say a lot, mostly bad, about it, but MS has been at this longer than those two companies put together.</p><p>Everyone and their mom aleardy had a phone when the iPhones came out, too, it didn't keep Apple from selling 34 million of them and making hundreds of millions in the process.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whether a person likes Microsoft or not [ ... ] they are late to the phone game.Microsoft 's first OS for smartphones ( Pocket PC 2002 ) was release in October 2001 , that 's over 5 years before Apple and a full 7 years before Google 's foray into the mobile platform .
You can say a lot , mostly bad , about it , but MS has been at this longer than those two companies put together.Everyone and their mom aleardy had a phone when the iPhones came out , too , it did n't keep Apple from selling 34 million of them and making hundreds of millions in the process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whether a person likes Microsoft or not [...] they are late to the phone game.Microsoft's first OS for smartphones (Pocket PC 2002) was release in October 2001, that's over 5 years before Apple and a full 7 years before Google's foray into the mobile platform.
You can say a lot, mostly bad, about it, but MS has been at this longer than those two companies put together.Everyone and their mom aleardy had a phone when the iPhones came out, too, it didn't keep Apple from selling 34 million of them and making hundreds of millions in the process.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144216</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144376</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1266251280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Until you can buy one at the store, it's another piece of vaporware</p></div> </blockquote><p>Perfect.  Can I run it on my vaporware iPad?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Until you can buy one at the store , it 's another piece of vaporware Perfect .
Can I run it on my vaporware iPad ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until you can buy one at the store, it's another piece of vaporware Perfect.
Can I run it on my vaporware iPad?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144068</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145858</id>
	<title>Re:Will have to wait and see</title>
	<author>Dirtside</author>
	<datestamp>1266258120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Keep in mind that the only thing the iPhone dominates is the tech news media. It has an 18\% market share.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Keep in mind that the only thing the iPhone dominates is the tech news media .
It has an 18 \ % market share .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keep in mind that the only thing the iPhone dominates is the tech news media.
It has an 18\% market share.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145970</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266258720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man, why don't you at least get your criticisms right?</p><p>Start with:</p><p>They promised a new database-based filesystem - vapor.<br>They promised a rewrite from the ground up based on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET - vapor.  (Granted, it's much better that this one didn't come true.  If you think Vista is slow, imagine what some of those Longhorn builds must have been..)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man , why do n't you at least get your criticisms right ? Start with : They promised a new database-based filesystem - vapor.They promised a rewrite from the ground up based on .NET - vapor .
( Granted , it 's much better that this one did n't come true .
If you think Vista is slow , imagine what some of those Longhorn builds must have been.. )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man, why don't you at least get your criticisms right?Start with:They promised a new database-based filesystem - vapor.They promised a rewrite from the ground up based on .NET - vapor.
(Granted, it's much better that this one didn't come true.
If you think Vista is slow, imagine what some of those Longhorn builds must have been..)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145402</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266255780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work at Microsoft now.  The development of smart phones here has followed the same pattern of development that has gone on here at Microsoft for years: the front line technical folks push for something innovative, upper management rejects it,  Google or Apple then invents it some time later, then upper management suddenly decides they need to get in the business and pat themselves on the back for making the decision "spearhead" into new markets.  I remember being in a meeting some years ago where some lower tech managers were proposing we get in the smart phone business, only to be told by some MBA they he should let the "big boys" handle the business decisions.  Now the Apple has made a killing in the smart phone business they have their panties in a wad to do the same thing, only now it's probably too late to penetrate the market with dominance that was possible years ago.  Nothing seems to get done here anymore unless some upper manager can make it their pet project and get all the credit for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work at Microsoft now .
The development of smart phones here has followed the same pattern of development that has gone on here at Microsoft for years : the front line technical folks push for something innovative , upper management rejects it , Google or Apple then invents it some time later , then upper management suddenly decides they need to get in the business and pat themselves on the back for making the decision " spearhead " into new markets .
I remember being in a meeting some years ago where some lower tech managers were proposing we get in the smart phone business , only to be told by some MBA they he should let the " big boys " handle the business decisions .
Now the Apple has made a killing in the smart phone business they have their panties in a wad to do the same thing , only now it 's probably too late to penetrate the market with dominance that was possible years ago .
Nothing seems to get done here anymore unless some upper manager can make it their pet project and get all the credit for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work at Microsoft now.
The development of smart phones here has followed the same pattern of development that has gone on here at Microsoft for years: the front line technical folks push for something innovative, upper management rejects it,  Google or Apple then invents it some time later, then upper management suddenly decides they need to get in the business and pat themselves on the back for making the decision "spearhead" into new markets.
I remember being in a meeting some years ago where some lower tech managers were proposing we get in the smart phone business, only to be told by some MBA they he should let the "big boys" handle the business decisions.
Now the Apple has made a killing in the smart phone business they have their panties in a wad to do the same thing, only now it's probably too late to penetrate the market with dominance that was possible years ago.
Nothing seems to get done here anymore unless some upper manager can make it their pet project and get all the credit for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145498</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266256260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I actually say sentences like that pretty often. I would also add &ldquo;elegance&rdquo; and &ldquo;emergence&rdquo; in there.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>It&rsquo;s about the beauty of a software design.</p><p>Of course the above comment still uses it an a way that is very wrong.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually say sentences like that pretty often .
I would also add    elegance    and    emergence    in there .
: ) It    s about the beauty of a software design.Of course the above comment still uses it an a way that is very wrong .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually say sentences like that pretty often.
I would also add “elegance” and “emergence” in there.
:)It’s about the beauty of a software design.Of course the above comment still uses it an a way that is very wrong.
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145674</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Bengie</author>
	<datestamp>1266257100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't had a Windows BSOD in about 8 years that wasn't caused by drivers or faulty hardware. Both cases are easily fixed and not Microsoft's fault. Not to ask Windows has been "perfect", but most BSOD problems with Windows were very specific other than crappy Service Packs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't had a Windows BSOD in about 8 years that was n't caused by drivers or faulty hardware .
Both cases are easily fixed and not Microsoft 's fault .
Not to ask Windows has been " perfect " , but most BSOD problems with Windows were very specific other than crappy Service Packs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't had a Windows BSOD in about 8 years that wasn't caused by drivers or faulty hardware.
Both cases are easily fixed and not Microsoft's fault.
Not to ask Windows has been "perfect", but most BSOD problems with Windows were very specific other than crappy Service Packs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145932</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>dreamchaser</author>
	<datestamp>1266258480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could have said the same thing without the marketing doublespeak.  Never use lots of big words when a few small ones will suffice to carry your point.</p><p>What you meant to say is the iPhone has a consistent user interface and provides a consistent experience to the user.  You didn't need paragraphs of useless 'gobledeegook' to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could have said the same thing without the marketing doublespeak .
Never use lots of big words when a few small ones will suffice to carry your point.What you meant to say is the iPhone has a consistent user interface and provides a consistent experience to the user .
You did n't need paragraphs of useless 'gobledeegook ' to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could have said the same thing without the marketing doublespeak.
Never use lots of big words when a few small ones will suffice to carry your point.What you meant to say is the iPhone has a consistent user interface and provides a consistent experience to the user.
You didn't need paragraphs of useless 'gobledeegook' to do so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147574</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>frankxcid</author>
	<datestamp>1266266640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I disagree, I also develop for the win mo and its several iterations and the visual studio interface is so easy to use, the learning curve was minimal.  I can do anything I want with it. As usual, Microsoft wanted a one size fits all business model for windows mobile that it is my only complaint.  There are so many version of mobile (even with the same version number) while there is only one version of iPhone per release. That is the trade off of Apple's business model.  Still, even with all the versions, I have had no difficulties programing mobile apps.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree , I also develop for the win mo and its several iterations and the visual studio interface is so easy to use , the learning curve was minimal .
I can do anything I want with it .
As usual , Microsoft wanted a one size fits all business model for windows mobile that it is my only complaint .
There are so many version of mobile ( even with the same version number ) while there is only one version of iPhone per release .
That is the trade off of Apple 's business model .
Still , even with all the versions , I have had no difficulties programing mobile apps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree, I also develop for the win mo and its several iterations and the visual studio interface is so easy to use, the learning curve was minimal.
I can do anything I want with it.
As usual, Microsoft wanted a one size fits all business model for windows mobile that it is my only complaint.
There are so many version of mobile (even with the same version number) while there is only one version of iPhone per release.
That is the trade off of Apple's business model.
Still, even with all the versions, I have had no difficulties programing mobile apps.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144238</id>
	<title>Nicely done.</title>
	<author>quadelirus</author>
	<datestamp>1266250620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a complete Apple fanboi, and one who owns 3 macs and swears by his iPod Touch (I don't like AT&amp;T), I've got to say, that thing looks like it has a really nice interface. Kudos to MS, just from glancing at it (and not having played with it) it looks like the interface could be nicer than both the iPhone OS and Android. If this came out for my cell carrier I would have a tough time deciding between it and an Nexus One. I use Windows 7 at work and have enjoyed it (mostly because MS copied so many of things I prefer about the Mac interface onto Win7, it isn't OS X yet, but getting closer) and I'm willing to keep an open mind about this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a complete Apple fanboi , and one who owns 3 macs and swears by his iPod Touch ( I do n't like AT&amp;T ) , I 've got to say , that thing looks like it has a really nice interface .
Kudos to MS , just from glancing at it ( and not having played with it ) it looks like the interface could be nicer than both the iPhone OS and Android .
If this came out for my cell carrier I would have a tough time deciding between it and an Nexus One .
I use Windows 7 at work and have enjoyed it ( mostly because MS copied so many of things I prefer about the Mac interface onto Win7 , it is n't OS X yet , but getting closer ) and I 'm willing to keep an open mind about this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a complete Apple fanboi, and one who owns 3 macs and swears by his iPod Touch (I don't like AT&amp;T), I've got to say, that thing looks like it has a really nice interface.
Kudos to MS, just from glancing at it (and not having played with it) it looks like the interface could be nicer than both the iPhone OS and Android.
If this came out for my cell carrier I would have a tough time deciding between it and an Nexus One.
I use Windows 7 at work and have enjoyed it (mostly because MS copied so many of things I prefer about the Mac interface onto Win7, it isn't OS X yet, but getting closer) and I'm willing to keep an open mind about this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144636</id>
	<title>Fail!</title>
	<author>Petersko</author>
	<datestamp>1266252360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"FAIL on the basic UI of the phone."</i> <br> <br>

It's "Family Day" but I'm working, so I'm cranky and willing to burn the mod points (certainly off-topic for sure).<br> <br>

Using the word "fail" in broken english has now become classic douche-baggery. Don't just parrot the same tired crap you heard a couple of years back. Think up something new, please. I'm surprised you didn't find a way to work "Micro$oft" into the post.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" FAIL on the basic UI of the phone .
" It 's " Family Day " but I 'm working , so I 'm cranky and willing to burn the mod points ( certainly off-topic for sure ) .
Using the word " fail " in broken english has now become classic douche-baggery .
Do n't just parrot the same tired crap you heard a couple of years back .
Think up something new , please .
I 'm surprised you did n't find a way to work " Micro $ oft " into the post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"FAIL on the basic UI of the phone.
"  

It's "Family Day" but I'm working, so I'm cranky and willing to burn the mod points (certainly off-topic for sure).
Using the word "fail" in broken english has now become classic douche-baggery.
Don't just parrot the same tired crap you heard a couple of years back.
Think up something new, please.
I'm surprised you didn't find a way to work "Micro$oft" into the post.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144622</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1266252300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The space-separated lexical units! They cause rapid oxidation in my cranium like low-PH compounds!</p></div><p>Fixed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The space-separated lexical units !
They cause rapid oxidation in my cranium like low-PH compounds ! Fixed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The space-separated lexical units!
They cause rapid oxidation in my cranium like low-PH compounds!Fixed.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144460</id>
	<title>Work properly?</title>
	<author>Roadmaster</author>
	<datestamp>1266251700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Work properly? from Microsoft? the company that made "Microsoft Works" an oxymoron? I don't think so.</p><p>On the Desktop OS arena, one always has to have SOME degree of MSFT compatibility. On smartphones there's plenty of choice and Microsoft is but a small player. So why even bother? let's keep them relegated to a corner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Work properly ?
from Microsoft ?
the company that made " Microsoft Works " an oxymoron ?
I do n't think so.On the Desktop OS arena , one always has to have SOME degree of MSFT compatibility .
On smartphones there 's plenty of choice and Microsoft is but a small player .
So why even bother ?
let 's keep them relegated to a corner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Work properly?
from Microsoft?
the company that made "Microsoft Works" an oxymoron?
I don't think so.On the Desktop OS arena, one always has to have SOME degree of MSFT compatibility.
On smartphones there's plenty of choice and Microsoft is but a small player.
So why even bother?
let's keep them relegated to a corner.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144068</id>
	<title>I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266249720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Until you can buy one at the store, it's another piece of vaporware from Microsoft.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Until you can buy one at the store , it 's another piece of vaporware from Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until you can buy one at the store, it's another piece of vaporware from Microsoft.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145966</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266258720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean that everything you do on the bloody thing looks the same, don't you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean that everything you do on the bloody thing looks the same , do n't you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean that everything you do on the bloody thing looks the same, don't you?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31157882</id>
	<title>From a coder's view</title>
	<author>phred75</author>
	<datestamp>1266348060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've always enjoyed coding with MS build chains. Coding the XBOX360 is so straight forward as is making Win32 apps that use D3D. Same with the Windows Mobile devices. It's a breeze to write and debug apps with Visual Studio.

However, hardware support is another story. They introduced Direct3D Mobile in Windows Mobile 5 but because WinMo up to now has been something of a wild west, some devices had D3D drivers while others didn't. And the ones that did weren't the best. Very few did OpenGL ES. You could however, quite easily get access to the linear frame buffer and just write your own rasterizers which worked quite well!

I've talked with some WinMobile insiders and they told me that WinMo 7 would be way stricter when it came to hardware and device variance. OpenGL ES would be the norm and would replace Direct3D Mobile.

If they can sort the hardware issues and force manufactures (HTC you listening, you ass clowns) to implement quality drivers, they could very much regain from 4th spot where they are now!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always enjoyed coding with MS build chains .
Coding the XBOX360 is so straight forward as is making Win32 apps that use D3D .
Same with the Windows Mobile devices .
It 's a breeze to write and debug apps with Visual Studio .
However , hardware support is another story .
They introduced Direct3D Mobile in Windows Mobile 5 but because WinMo up to now has been something of a wild west , some devices had D3D drivers while others did n't .
And the ones that did were n't the best .
Very few did OpenGL ES .
You could however , quite easily get access to the linear frame buffer and just write your own rasterizers which worked quite well !
I 've talked with some WinMobile insiders and they told me that WinMo 7 would be way stricter when it came to hardware and device variance .
OpenGL ES would be the norm and would replace Direct3D Mobile .
If they can sort the hardware issues and force manufactures ( HTC you listening , you ass clowns ) to implement quality drivers , they could very much regain from 4th spot where they are now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always enjoyed coding with MS build chains.
Coding the XBOX360 is so straight forward as is making Win32 apps that use D3D.
Same with the Windows Mobile devices.
It's a breeze to write and debug apps with Visual Studio.
However, hardware support is another story.
They introduced Direct3D Mobile in Windows Mobile 5 but because WinMo up to now has been something of a wild west, some devices had D3D drivers while others didn't.
And the ones that did weren't the best.
Very few did OpenGL ES.
You could however, quite easily get access to the linear frame buffer and just write your own rasterizers which worked quite well!
I've talked with some WinMobile insiders and they told me that WinMo 7 would be way stricter when it came to hardware and device variance.
OpenGL ES would be the norm and would replace Direct3D Mobile.
If they can sort the hardware issues and force manufactures (HTC you listening, you ass clowns) to implement quality drivers, they could very much regain from 4th spot where they are now!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146096</id>
	<title>Microsoft may have the right idea...</title>
	<author>uslurper</author>
	<datestamp>1266259380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft may have the right idea in their continued attempts to compete in the smartphone market. The main reason for this is that there is no clear dominant force in smartphone OS's at this time.</p><p>The Apple Iphone has been a favorite. But take into account it has only been on the market for a few years. The Iphone is expensive, and it is only offered through AT&amp;T. All of this limits the market share possible for Apple.</p><p>Google's Android is gaining speed fast. But again, the first android phone to be released was only a little over a year ago.</p><p>As far as all the cheaper phones are concerned. I have no idea what OS they run. Some minimal smartphone tech is bound to enter the market.</p><p>I think Microsoft could still be a powerful player in the mobile phone market if they can release a quality platform. That may be their biggest hurdle yet, they tend to be their own worst enemy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft may have the right idea in their continued attempts to compete in the smartphone market .
The main reason for this is that there is no clear dominant force in smartphone OS 's at this time.The Apple Iphone has been a favorite .
But take into account it has only been on the market for a few years .
The Iphone is expensive , and it is only offered through AT&amp;T .
All of this limits the market share possible for Apple.Google 's Android is gaining speed fast .
But again , the first android phone to be released was only a little over a year ago.As far as all the cheaper phones are concerned .
I have no idea what OS they run .
Some minimal smartphone tech is bound to enter the market.I think Microsoft could still be a powerful player in the mobile phone market if they can release a quality platform .
That may be their biggest hurdle yet , they tend to be their own worst enemy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft may have the right idea in their continued attempts to compete in the smartphone market.
The main reason for this is that there is no clear dominant force in smartphone OS's at this time.The Apple Iphone has been a favorite.
But take into account it has only been on the market for a few years.
The Iphone is expensive, and it is only offered through AT&amp;T.
All of this limits the market share possible for Apple.Google's Android is gaining speed fast.
But again, the first android phone to be released was only a little over a year ago.As far as all the cheaper phones are concerned.
I have no idea what OS they run.
Some minimal smartphone tech is bound to enter the market.I think Microsoft could still be a powerful player in the mobile phone market if they can release a quality platform.
That may be their biggest hurdle yet, they tend to be their own worst enemy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31154942</id>
	<title>Re:Nicely done.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266334740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kudos for carrying around a phone and a phone missing a phone. I bet some of your Macs are PPC. Ghetto nigger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kudos for carrying around a phone and a phone missing a phone .
I bet some of your Macs are PPC .
Ghetto nigger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kudos for carrying around a phone and a phone missing a phone.
I bet some of your Macs are PPC.
Ghetto nigger.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146516</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>soupd</author>
	<datestamp>1266261480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Speaking of touch screen, watching the two vids on Engadget <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-hands-on-and-impressions/" title="engadget.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-hands-on-and-impressions/</a> [engadget.com] and boy either the user isn't touching the screen when moving his fingers around or it's missing a crap lot of touch gestures. That can't be right!?!?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking of touch screen , watching the two vids on Engadget http : //www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-hands-on-and-impressions/ [ engadget.com ] and boy either the user is n't touching the screen when moving his fingers around or it 's missing a crap lot of touch gestures .
That ca n't be right ! ? ! ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking of touch screen, watching the two vids on Engadget http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-hands-on-and-impressions/ [engadget.com] and boy either the user isn't touching the screen when moving his fingers around or it's missing a crap lot of touch gestures.
That can't be right!?!?
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31148626</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, you've got me listening...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266228660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My phone has a "gasp" qwerty keyboard on the front of it so I can type SMS messages and access all my programs instantly using speed dials and hotkeys mapped to every key.</p><p>While people are fingering through their list of contacts or list of music and software I've already brought up what I needed and moved on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My phone has a " gasp " qwerty keyboard on the front of it so I can type SMS messages and access all my programs instantly using speed dials and hotkeys mapped to every key.While people are fingering through their list of contacts or list of music and software I 've already brought up what I needed and moved on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My phone has a "gasp" qwerty keyboard on the front of it so I can type SMS messages and access all my programs instantly using speed dials and hotkeys mapped to every key.While people are fingering through their list of contacts or list of music and software I've already brought up what I needed and moved on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144140</id>
	<title>IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266250080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Iphone world domination?</p><p>I don't know what world is being referred here, probably the marketing and fairy tale world. Last time I checked, Apple was a marginal player in the real world (i.e., not some particular geography or some fashionable pundits).</p><p>In the real world, Nokia might be the one to talk about, but even so, its share is far from "world domination"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Iphone world domination ? I do n't know what world is being referred here , probably the marketing and fairy tale world .
Last time I checked , Apple was a marginal player in the real world ( i.e. , not some particular geography or some fashionable pundits ) .In the real world , Nokia might be the one to talk about , but even so , its share is far from " world domination "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Iphone world domination?I don't know what world is being referred here, probably the marketing and fairy tale world.
Last time I checked, Apple was a marginal player in the real world (i.e., not some particular geography or some fashionable pundits).In the real world, Nokia might be the one to talk about, but even so, its share is far from "world domination"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145068</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>poetmatt</author>
	<datestamp>1266254220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>actually, nobody even cares about microsoft phones. They were (and still are) featureless and generally crappy. At this point MS would be smarter to just let that market go.</p><p>The best they have done is trying to make a phone look <a href="http://www.htc.com/europe/product/hd2/overview.html" title="htc.com"> exactly like an android phone </a> [htc.com] which shows how crappy winmo is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>actually , nobody even cares about microsoft phones .
They were ( and still are ) featureless and generally crappy .
At this point MS would be smarter to just let that market go.The best they have done is trying to make a phone look exactly like an android phone [ htc.com ] which shows how crappy winmo is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>actually, nobody even cares about microsoft phones.
They were (and still are) featureless and generally crappy.
At this point MS would be smarter to just let that market go.The best they have done is trying to make a phone look  exactly like an android phone  [htc.com] which shows how crappy winmo is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145872</id>
	<title>Re:Will have to wait and see</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266258180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>atleast multitasking is confirmed by balmar so the other questions wont be able to clarify until lat this year</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>atleast multitasking is confirmed by balmar so the other questions wont be able to clarify until lat this year</tokentext>
<sentencetext>atleast multitasking is confirmed by balmar so the other questions wont be able to clarify until lat this year</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144412</id>
	<title>Okay, you've got me listening...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266251520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No goofy shading and transitions? Simple design? No backgrounds?</p><p>This has promise. I'm a "black screen wallpaper" guy, and until Windows 7 I used the "classic" look in windows (I'm still considering switching back, as the whole translucent thing is more a distraction than anything else).</p><p>What I want is a finger-operable OS that allows quick access to all my programs (and easy program switching), is finger operable, makes scrolling and web browsing easy (I've yet to see a browser that can reliably determine the difference in a small swipe vs a click), is finger controllable, and allows customizable parameters for most actions (when to ring, when not to, when to wake, when to sleep, when to check email, etc.), and - most importantly - is finger controllable.</p><p>I know that there are lots of people who want a PDA instead of a phone, and prefer using a stylus. Really - it's a phenomenal annoyance to have to pull out a stylus for practically every operation because the icons are the size of a piece of glitter. It's nice to see that they might be moving into the 21st century with their UI.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No goofy shading and transitions ?
Simple design ?
No backgrounds ? This has promise .
I 'm a " black screen wallpaper " guy , and until Windows 7 I used the " classic " look in windows ( I 'm still considering switching back , as the whole translucent thing is more a distraction than anything else ) .What I want is a finger-operable OS that allows quick access to all my programs ( and easy program switching ) , is finger operable , makes scrolling and web browsing easy ( I 've yet to see a browser that can reliably determine the difference in a small swipe vs a click ) , is finger controllable , and allows customizable parameters for most actions ( when to ring , when not to , when to wake , when to sleep , when to check email , etc .
) , and - most importantly - is finger controllable.I know that there are lots of people who want a PDA instead of a phone , and prefer using a stylus .
Really - it 's a phenomenal annoyance to have to pull out a stylus for practically every operation because the icons are the size of a piece of glitter .
It 's nice to see that they might be moving into the 21st century with their UI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No goofy shading and transitions?
Simple design?
No backgrounds?This has promise.
I'm a "black screen wallpaper" guy, and until Windows 7 I used the "classic" look in windows (I'm still considering switching back, as the whole translucent thing is more a distraction than anything else).What I want is a finger-operable OS that allows quick access to all my programs (and easy program switching), is finger operable, makes scrolling and web browsing easy (I've yet to see a browser that can reliably determine the difference in a small swipe vs a click), is finger controllable, and allows customizable parameters for most actions (when to ring, when not to, when to wake, when to sleep, when to check email, etc.
), and - most importantly - is finger controllable.I know that there are lots of people who want a PDA instead of a phone, and prefer using a stylus.
Really - it's a phenomenal annoyance to have to pull out a stylus for practically every operation because the icons are the size of a piece of glitter.
It's nice to see that they might be moving into the 21st century with their UI.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31151186</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1266244500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another thing to note... until very recently (Windows Mobile 6, I'd say), Microsoft has not been focusing their smartphone tech towards common users. The main suite of functionality has been: MAPI connectivity/email, productivity (mini-office) contacts, email and navigation. Including navigation, Windows Mobile devices (and all prior WinCE based devices) have been far beyond the capabilities of anything else: there just hasn't been competition. There still isn't.</p><p>When they rolled the Zune team into the WinMo team, things changed with a more "user centric" device. That's really when they started pushing for the same market. While Apple did start the 'inexpensive smart phone', Microsoft has been doing smartphones (through proxies) for much longer. Instead of $350 or so, they cost over 3 times as much, granted - but things have changed a lot, and what is now possible at the $350-500 price point is different than it was almost a decade ago.</p><p>The foundation of WinCE is actually not that bad for such a device. It's a fairly stable OS at this point: it has "true" multitasking, for one thing. Battery life on a WinCE device kicks the crap out of Android and iPhone (possibly due to the MIPS heritage, but I couldn't say for sure).</p><p>I'm a Linux geek, and frankly, I don't see much exciting in Android. The tools are limited compared to what's available on Windows Mobile or the iPhone. Likewise, the iPhone lacks a lot of what Windows Mobile has. Except for the "Microsoft makes it" and the Activesync skeleton in the closet, I can't think of a single reason to prefer  an iPhone or Android over modern Windows Mobile phone. I'd love to be able to have a Touch Pro 2 (carrier support).</p><p>Hell, if you know what you're doing, you can roll and upgrade your own WinMo phone without -too- much of a headache. Most of them don't seem to require extensive "jailbreaking". Even the Verizon Touch Pro 2 is trivial to gain full access to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another thing to note... until very recently ( Windows Mobile 6 , I 'd say ) , Microsoft has not been focusing their smartphone tech towards common users .
The main suite of functionality has been : MAPI connectivity/email , productivity ( mini-office ) contacts , email and navigation .
Including navigation , Windows Mobile devices ( and all prior WinCE based devices ) have been far beyond the capabilities of anything else : there just has n't been competition .
There still is n't.When they rolled the Zune team into the WinMo team , things changed with a more " user centric " device .
That 's really when they started pushing for the same market .
While Apple did start the 'inexpensive smart phone ' , Microsoft has been doing smartphones ( through proxies ) for much longer .
Instead of $ 350 or so , they cost over 3 times as much , granted - but things have changed a lot , and what is now possible at the $ 350-500 price point is different than it was almost a decade ago.The foundation of WinCE is actually not that bad for such a device .
It 's a fairly stable OS at this point : it has " true " multitasking , for one thing .
Battery life on a WinCE device kicks the crap out of Android and iPhone ( possibly due to the MIPS heritage , but I could n't say for sure ) .I 'm a Linux geek , and frankly , I do n't see much exciting in Android .
The tools are limited compared to what 's available on Windows Mobile or the iPhone .
Likewise , the iPhone lacks a lot of what Windows Mobile has .
Except for the " Microsoft makes it " and the Activesync skeleton in the closet , I ca n't think of a single reason to prefer an iPhone or Android over modern Windows Mobile phone .
I 'd love to be able to have a Touch Pro 2 ( carrier support ) .Hell , if you know what you 're doing , you can roll and upgrade your own WinMo phone without -too- much of a headache .
Most of them do n't seem to require extensive " jailbreaking " .
Even the Verizon Touch Pro 2 is trivial to gain full access to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another thing to note... until very recently (Windows Mobile 6, I'd say), Microsoft has not been focusing their smartphone tech towards common users.
The main suite of functionality has been: MAPI connectivity/email, productivity (mini-office) contacts, email and navigation.
Including navigation, Windows Mobile devices (and all prior WinCE based devices) have been far beyond the capabilities of anything else: there just hasn't been competition.
There still isn't.When they rolled the Zune team into the WinMo team, things changed with a more "user centric" device.
That's really when they started pushing for the same market.
While Apple did start the 'inexpensive smart phone', Microsoft has been doing smartphones (through proxies) for much longer.
Instead of $350 or so, they cost over 3 times as much, granted - but things have changed a lot, and what is now possible at the $350-500 price point is different than it was almost a decade ago.The foundation of WinCE is actually not that bad for such a device.
It's a fairly stable OS at this point: it has "true" multitasking, for one thing.
Battery life on a WinCE device kicks the crap out of Android and iPhone (possibly due to the MIPS heritage, but I couldn't say for sure).I'm a Linux geek, and frankly, I don't see much exciting in Android.
The tools are limited compared to what's available on Windows Mobile or the iPhone.
Likewise, the iPhone lacks a lot of what Windows Mobile has.
Except for the "Microsoft makes it" and the Activesync skeleton in the closet, I can't think of a single reason to prefer  an iPhone or Android over modern Windows Mobile phone.
I'd love to be able to have a Touch Pro 2 (carrier support).Hell, if you know what you're doing, you can roll and upgrade your own WinMo phone without -too- much of a headache.
Most of them don't seem to require extensive "jailbreaking".
Even the Verizon Touch Pro 2 is trivial to gain full access to.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144240</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>mystikkman</author>
	<datestamp>1266250620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*Another* piece? Care to name some recent ones? Like in this decade?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* Another * piece ?
Care to name some recent ones ?
Like in this decade ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*Another* piece?
Care to name some recent ones?
Like in this decade?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145578</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, you've got me listening...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266256560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you&rsquo;re a Linux guy.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Just use Gentoo and mask the @kde and @gnome sets and use the console.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you    re a Linux guy .
: ) Just use Gentoo and mask the @ kde and @ gnome sets and use the console .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you’re a Linux guy.
:)Just use Gentoo and mask the @kde and @gnome sets and use the console.
;)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145376</id>
	<title>Re:Will it make and receive calls?</title>
	<author>rufus t firefly</author>
	<datestamp>1266255660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <em>ith Windows Mobile, more often than not, I would get the call.. go to answer... phone locks up... reboot phone... call person back. FAIL on the basic UI of the phone. The other features would work well... just often found myself rebooting the phone when it came time to get a call.</em></p></div> </blockquote><p>Seconded. I've had the same issue with Winmo phones becoming unresponsive during inbound calls.</p><p>I've had a few Winmo phones over the years, most recently an HTC model and a Moto Q. Horrible, horrible phones. Not just incredibly unresponsive, but the HTC wasn't designed to be used with fingers at all.</p><p>I've also had to pull the battery out because the stupid phone didn't want to hang up before I would have to leave a voicemail message. Piece of crap phones.</p><p>I'm moving to an Android phone (which I have been using for work for quite a few months now) for myself as soon as an Android 2.x phone is available for my carrier. At least I can develop applications for it without buying into a platform (MacOS for iPhone, Windows for WinMo or Blackberry). Yes, I'm aware I could probably hack together a toolchain to develop Blackberry apps on Linux, but it would make it far more difficult.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ith Windows Mobile , more often than not , I would get the call.. go to answer... phone locks up... reboot phone... call person back .
FAIL on the basic UI of the phone .
The other features would work well... just often found myself rebooting the phone when it came time to get a call .
Seconded. I 've had the same issue with Winmo phones becoming unresponsive during inbound calls.I 've had a few Winmo phones over the years , most recently an HTC model and a Moto Q. Horrible , horrible phones .
Not just incredibly unresponsive , but the HTC was n't designed to be used with fingers at all.I 've also had to pull the battery out because the stupid phone did n't want to hang up before I would have to leave a voicemail message .
Piece of crap phones.I 'm moving to an Android phone ( which I have been using for work for quite a few months now ) for myself as soon as an Android 2.x phone is available for my carrier .
At least I can develop applications for it without buying into a platform ( MacOS for iPhone , Windows for WinMo or Blackberry ) .
Yes , I 'm aware I could probably hack together a toolchain to develop Blackberry apps on Linux , but it would make it far more difficult .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ith Windows Mobile, more often than not, I would get the call.. go to answer... phone locks up... reboot phone... call person back.
FAIL on the basic UI of the phone.
The other features would work well... just often found myself rebooting the phone when it came time to get a call.
Seconded. I've had the same issue with Winmo phones becoming unresponsive during inbound calls.I've had a few Winmo phones over the years, most recently an HTC model and a Moto Q. Horrible, horrible phones.
Not just incredibly unresponsive, but the HTC wasn't designed to be used with fingers at all.I've also had to pull the battery out because the stupid phone didn't want to hang up before I would have to leave a voicemail message.
Piece of crap phones.I'm moving to an Android phone (which I have been using for work for quite a few months now) for myself as soon as an Android 2.x phone is available for my carrier.
At least I can develop applications for it without buying into a platform (MacOS for iPhone, Windows for WinMo or Blackberry).
Yes, I'm aware I could probably hack together a toolchain to develop Blackberry apps on Linux, but it would make it far more difficult.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146774</id>
	<title>Re:Will it make and receive calls?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1266262980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What sold me on the iPhone was that I could hear the phone ring, and actually receive the call. With Windows Mobile, more often than not, I would get the call.. go to answer... phone locks up... reboot phone... call person back. FAIL on the basic UI of the phone. The other features would work well... just often found myself rebooting the phone when it came time to get a call</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Simple solution really, you just need to reboot <i>before</i> you get a call.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What sold me on the iPhone was that I could hear the phone ring , and actually receive the call .
With Windows Mobile , more often than not , I would get the call.. go to answer... phone locks up... reboot phone... call person back .
FAIL on the basic UI of the phone .
The other features would work well... just often found myself rebooting the phone when it came time to get a call Simple solution really , you just need to reboot before you get a call .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What sold me on the iPhone was that I could hear the phone ring, and actually receive the call.
With Windows Mobile, more often than not, I would get the call.. go to answer... phone locks up... reboot phone... call person back.
FAIL on the basic UI of the phone.
The other features would work well... just often found myself rebooting the phone when it came time to get a call
Simple solution really, you just need to reboot before you get a call.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144264</id>
	<title>Management hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266250860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
A higher-up manager from my company was at Microsoft last week and saw a presentation about this device.  The presentation must have been pretty impressive, because this manager immediately started firing off emails asking if had any plans to support it.  Since no one back in the home office had even heard of it, the answer was a resounding No.  "What is the installed user base?  What is the sales growth rate?  Both zero?  We'll wait and see."
</p><p>
However, now that the manager is back, that whole uppity staff has been in meeting "strategizing" about how to convert our existing apps to run on this new device.  Microsoft apparently did <b>something</b> right with that presentation.  They either promised the world, a bunch of kickbacks, co-marketing opportunities, or something.  Or, more likely, we just witnessed an overpowering of a manager's feeble defenses by the strong arm of Microsoft.
</p><p>
I cringe at the thought of what my job will be like in a few months.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A higher-up manager from my company was at Microsoft last week and saw a presentation about this device .
The presentation must have been pretty impressive , because this manager immediately started firing off emails asking if had any plans to support it .
Since no one back in the home office had even heard of it , the answer was a resounding No .
" What is the installed user base ?
What is the sales growth rate ?
Both zero ?
We 'll wait and see .
" However , now that the manager is back , that whole uppity staff has been in meeting " strategizing " about how to convert our existing apps to run on this new device .
Microsoft apparently did something right with that presentation .
They either promised the world , a bunch of kickbacks , co-marketing opportunities , or something .
Or , more likely , we just witnessed an overpowering of a manager 's feeble defenses by the strong arm of Microsoft .
I cringe at the thought of what my job will be like in a few months .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
A higher-up manager from my company was at Microsoft last week and saw a presentation about this device.
The presentation must have been pretty impressive, because this manager immediately started firing off emails asking if had any plans to support it.
Since no one back in the home office had even heard of it, the answer was a resounding No.
"What is the installed user base?
What is the sales growth rate?
Both zero?
We'll wait and see.
"

However, now that the manager is back, that whole uppity staff has been in meeting "strategizing" about how to convert our existing apps to run on this new device.
Microsoft apparently did something right with that presentation.
They either promised the world, a bunch of kickbacks, co-marketing opportunities, or something.
Or, more likely, we just witnessed an overpowering of a manager's feeble defenses by the strong arm of Microsoft.
I cringe at the thought of what my job will be like in a few months.
</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266255660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>but the MS Mobile OS does have some major advantages to it you can't get with say BB OS or the iPhone OS:</p><p>One big advantage over the iPhone OS: Multi-tasking. The first Windows Mobile phone I had ran version 4 something another, and I later purchased a Samsung with version 5 something another. They did both have their flaws, but the ability to run more than one app at a time was great.</p><p>One big advantage over the Blackberry: This is a two fold. One, there's a SIP stack that's usable. This has been listed as the biggest thing holding SIP back on a Blackberry. While RIM did have a version of the Blackberry that did support SIP (it was a 7xxx series phone), none since they have supported this. The second is all the "Skype" type applications are basically like Google Voice... it just dials out and uses your voice plan on the Blackberry. There are *FULL* mobile versions of Skype that run on WinMobile, so in theory as long as your wireless carrier isn't blocking SIP, you could get a WinMobile phone with *ONLY* a data plan from say AT&amp;T or Verizon for around $40 a month and do Skype monthly for $12. That'd be unlimited data + calling (and I know Skype supports SMS but I'm not sure how that works) to US phones for $52 a month. To do a similar setup on Verizon or AT&amp;T in the past would be a $45 calling plan, $30 data plan + "Other Fees" for over $75. Add in texting and you're hitting about $85+.</p><p>As a side note, has anyone else noticed Verizon now charges $30 a month to tether your Blackberry to a laptop instead of the $15 in the past? I guess it's another reason to just use Tether! (www.tether.com)... and no I don't work for them in any way. My friend told me about the app and I tried it out, yes it may be against the ToS, but it works great!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but the MS Mobile OS does have some major advantages to it you ca n't get with say BB OS or the iPhone OS : One big advantage over the iPhone OS : Multi-tasking .
The first Windows Mobile phone I had ran version 4 something another , and I later purchased a Samsung with version 5 something another .
They did both have their flaws , but the ability to run more than one app at a time was great.One big advantage over the Blackberry : This is a two fold .
One , there 's a SIP stack that 's usable .
This has been listed as the biggest thing holding SIP back on a Blackberry .
While RIM did have a version of the Blackberry that did support SIP ( it was a 7xxx series phone ) , none since they have supported this .
The second is all the " Skype " type applications are basically like Google Voice... it just dials out and uses your voice plan on the Blackberry .
There are * FULL * mobile versions of Skype that run on WinMobile , so in theory as long as your wireless carrier is n't blocking SIP , you could get a WinMobile phone with * ONLY * a data plan from say AT&amp;T or Verizon for around $ 40 a month and do Skype monthly for $ 12 .
That 'd be unlimited data + calling ( and I know Skype supports SMS but I 'm not sure how that works ) to US phones for $ 52 a month .
To do a similar setup on Verizon or AT&amp;T in the past would be a $ 45 calling plan , $ 30 data plan + " Other Fees " for over $ 75 .
Add in texting and you 're hitting about $ 85 + .As a side note , has anyone else noticed Verizon now charges $ 30 a month to tether your Blackberry to a laptop instead of the $ 15 in the past ?
I guess it 's another reason to just use Tether !
( www.tether.com ) ... and no I do n't work for them in any way .
My friend told me about the app and I tried it out , yes it may be against the ToS , but it works great !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but the MS Mobile OS does have some major advantages to it you can't get with say BB OS or the iPhone OS:One big advantage over the iPhone OS: Multi-tasking.
The first Windows Mobile phone I had ran version 4 something another, and I later purchased a Samsung with version 5 something another.
They did both have their flaws, but the ability to run more than one app at a time was great.One big advantage over the Blackberry: This is a two fold.
One, there's a SIP stack that's usable.
This has been listed as the biggest thing holding SIP back on a Blackberry.
While RIM did have a version of the Blackberry that did support SIP (it was a 7xxx series phone), none since they have supported this.
The second is all the "Skype" type applications are basically like Google Voice... it just dials out and uses your voice plan on the Blackberry.
There are *FULL* mobile versions of Skype that run on WinMobile, so in theory as long as your wireless carrier isn't blocking SIP, you could get a WinMobile phone with *ONLY* a data plan from say AT&amp;T or Verizon for around $40 a month and do Skype monthly for $12.
That'd be unlimited data + calling (and I know Skype supports SMS but I'm not sure how that works) to US phones for $52 a month.
To do a similar setup on Verizon or AT&amp;T in the past would be a $45 calling plan, $30 data plan + "Other Fees" for over $75.
Add in texting and you're hitting about $85+.As a side note, has anyone else noticed Verizon now charges $30 a month to tether your Blackberry to a laptop instead of the $15 in the past?
I guess it's another reason to just use Tether!
(www.tether.com)... and no I don't work for them in any way.
My friend told me about the app and I tried it out, yes it may be against the ToS, but it works great!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31153678</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266319380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is a major difference between Microsoft announcing this around 10 months in advance and the iPad being announced about 2 months in advance.  Microsoft is known to over promise and under deliver (look up all the promised features of Longhorn, and then look at what was delivered for Vista, to name one of many examples).  Apple, on the other hand, promises exactly what they deliver (all the hype was from non-Apple news sources - Apple has only announced what the iPad is capable of).  Due to their track records, I shall call Windows Mobile 7 "vaporware" and I'll call the iPad a soon to be delivered product that will meet all expectations as set forth by Apple.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a major difference between Microsoft announcing this around 10 months in advance and the iPad being announced about 2 months in advance .
Microsoft is known to over promise and under deliver ( look up all the promised features of Longhorn , and then look at what was delivered for Vista , to name one of many examples ) .
Apple , on the other hand , promises exactly what they deliver ( all the hype was from non-Apple news sources - Apple has only announced what the iPad is capable of ) .
Due to their track records , I shall call Windows Mobile 7 " vaporware " and I 'll call the iPad a soon to be delivered product that will meet all expectations as set forth by Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a major difference between Microsoft announcing this around 10 months in advance and the iPad being announced about 2 months in advance.
Microsoft is known to over promise and under deliver (look up all the promised features of Longhorn, and then look at what was delivered for Vista, to name one of many examples).
Apple, on the other hand, promises exactly what they deliver (all the hype was from non-Apple news sources - Apple has only announced what the iPad is capable of).
Due to their track records, I shall call Windows Mobile 7 "vaporware" and I'll call the iPad a soon to be delivered product that will meet all expectations as set forth by Apple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146468</id>
	<title>Channel 9 has a walkthrough of the interface</title>
	<author>linumax</author>
	<datestamp>1266261240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/LauraFoy/First-Look-Windows-Phone-7-Series-Hands-on-Demo/" title="msdn.com">http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/LauraFoy/First-Look-Windows-Phone-7-Series-Hands-on-Demo/</a> [msdn.com]

<br> <br>(Silverlight warning, at least it does work on Chrome on Mac)</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //channel9.msdn.com/posts/LauraFoy/First-Look-Windows-Phone-7-Series-Hands-on-Demo/ [ msdn.com ] ( Silverlight warning , at least it does work on Chrome on Mac )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/LauraFoy/First-Look-Windows-Phone-7-Series-Hands-on-Demo/ [msdn.com]

 (Silverlight warning, at least it does work on Chrome on Mac)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145226</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>bemymonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1266255000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, I've never seen a BSOD on a WinMo phone. In my experience it's usually a direct reboot or a simple freeze...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I 've never seen a BSOD on a WinMo phone .
In my experience it 's usually a direct reboot or a simple freeze.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I've never seen a BSOD on a WinMo phone.
In my experience it's usually a direct reboot or a simple freeze...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147248</id>
	<title>Re:Nicely done.</title>
	<author>derGoldstein</author>
	<datestamp>1266265020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh goody! I got modded "troll" for a posting a joke!<br> (I mean really, would anyone read that and think it was serious?)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh goody !
I got modded " troll " for a posting a joke !
( I mean really , would anyone read that and think it was serious ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh goody!
I got modded "troll" for a posting a joke!
(I mean really, would anyone read that and think it was serious?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147142</id>
	<title>Is it actually a phone?</title>
	<author>gelfling</author>
	<datestamp>1266264600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see they are focusing on games, multimedia address book, web browsing and social networking. But a phone? well....maybe. It looks like an atomic powered Zune with a phone bolted on as an afterthought.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see they are focusing on games , multimedia address book , web browsing and social networking .
But a phone ?
well....maybe. It looks like an atomic powered Zune with a phone bolted on as an afterthought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see they are focusing on games, multimedia address book, web browsing and social networking.
But a phone?
well....maybe. It looks like an atomic powered Zune with a phone bolted on as an afterthought.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144930</id>
	<title>Re:Nicely done.</title>
	<author>derGoldstein</author>
	<datestamp>1266253500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As a complete Apple fanboi, and one who owns 3 macs and swears by his iPod Touch (I don't like AT&amp;T), I've got to say, that thing looks like it has a really nice interface. Kudos to MS</p></div><p>You're a plant -- admit it. How much is MS paying you? Are you freelancing or is this full time?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a complete Apple fanboi , and one who owns 3 macs and swears by his iPod Touch ( I do n't like AT&amp;T ) , I 've got to say , that thing looks like it has a really nice interface .
Kudos to MSYou 're a plant -- admit it .
How much is MS paying you ?
Are you freelancing or is this full time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a complete Apple fanboi, and one who owns 3 macs and swears by his iPod Touch (I don't like AT&amp;T), I've got to say, that thing looks like it has a really nice interface.
Kudos to MSYou're a plant -- admit it.
How much is MS paying you?
Are you freelancing or is this full time?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146636</id>
	<title>If they knew how, they'd already have done it</title>
	<author>dpbsmith</author>
	<datestamp>1266262140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4b7337bc0000000000a10a91/chart-of-the-day-msft-operating-profit.gif" title="businessinsider.com">This chart</a> [businessinsider.com] does not show much evidence that Microsoft is learning how to make successful products outside of its traditional franchises: desktop operating systems and desktop office applications.</p><p>They've failed at least twice with PDA/pocket type devices, at least once with mobile phones, at least once with portable music players (not quite sure whether PlaysForSure should be counted along with Zune).</p><p>Typically we see these stories when Microsoft is behind a competitor, but this time they are behind two: Apple, which has a solid phone success, and Google, which has all the buzz. They are behind these two companies despite having started before either of them, with Windows Mobile circa 2004... which in turn had the benefit of five major revisions of Windows CE, started in 1996 or something like that.</p><p>If Microsoft actually knew how to make a good telephone, they would have made one already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This chart [ businessinsider.com ] does not show much evidence that Microsoft is learning how to make successful products outside of its traditional franchises : desktop operating systems and desktop office applications.They 've failed at least twice with PDA/pocket type devices , at least once with mobile phones , at least once with portable music players ( not quite sure whether PlaysForSure should be counted along with Zune ) .Typically we see these stories when Microsoft is behind a competitor , but this time they are behind two : Apple , which has a solid phone success , and Google , which has all the buzz .
They are behind these two companies despite having started before either of them , with Windows Mobile circa 2004... which in turn had the benefit of five major revisions of Windows CE , started in 1996 or something like that.If Microsoft actually knew how to make a good telephone , they would have made one already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This chart [businessinsider.com] does not show much evidence that Microsoft is learning how to make successful products outside of its traditional franchises: desktop operating systems and desktop office applications.They've failed at least twice with PDA/pocket type devices, at least once with mobile phones, at least once with portable music players (not quite sure whether PlaysForSure should be counted along with Zune).Typically we see these stories when Microsoft is behind a competitor, but this time they are behind two: Apple, which has a solid phone success, and Google, which has all the buzz.
They are behind these two companies despite having started before either of them, with Windows Mobile circa 2004... which in turn had the benefit of five major revisions of Windows CE, started in 1996 or something like that.If Microsoft actually knew how to make a good telephone, they would have made one already.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147734</id>
	<title>Re:Will have to wait and see</title>
	<author>ruiner13</author>
	<datestamp>1266267420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does it support multitasking?</p></div><p>I see this question asked a lot these days, but all phones, <i>even the iPhone</i>, support multitasking.  If it didn't, you could not get a phone call while you were surfing, sending SMS, etc... at all.  The proper question should be "does it support multiple user applications running at the same time?". Apple reportedly does this to prevent a runaway application from being able to suck down the battery and provide a poor experience.  There is some logic to this, and it is their platform to enforce how they wish.  But to say they don't support multitasking at all is misleading.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it support multitasking ? I see this question asked a lot these days , but all phones , even the iPhone , support multitasking .
If it did n't , you could not get a phone call while you were surfing , sending SMS , etc... at all .
The proper question should be " does it support multiple user applications running at the same time ? " .
Apple reportedly does this to prevent a runaway application from being able to suck down the battery and provide a poor experience .
There is some logic to this , and it is their platform to enforce how they wish .
But to say they do n't support multitasking at all is misleading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it support multitasking?I see this question asked a lot these days, but all phones, even the iPhone, support multitasking.
If it didn't, you could not get a phone call while you were surfing, sending SMS, etc... at all.
The proper question should be "does it support multiple user applications running at the same time?".
Apple reportedly does this to prevent a runaway application from being able to suck down the battery and provide a poor experience.
There is some logic to this, and it is their platform to enforce how they wish.
But to say they don't support multitasking at all is misleading.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146078</id>
	<title>Re:Nicely done.</title>
	<author>Taevin</author>
	<datestamp>1266259320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm something of an Apple fanboi as well (and not rabidly anti-Microsoft either; I happen to enjoy using Windows 7 while coding C# at work...) and I just don't see it. I think the iPhone is far from the perfect UI but it is consistent and functional. This thing appears to me to be neither.
<br> <br>
I was going to give them the benefit of the doubt (my first thought was "wow, that looks like shit... well maybe this is a very early preview of their UI"), but then I saw your post and someone else saying it reminds them of the Zune... so that's really how they intend it to look? Just as one example, is having "lists with text cut off on the sides of the phone" actually a desirable feature to someone? It's one thing to be minimalistic, but I don't think it needs to look messy to be so.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm something of an Apple fanboi as well ( and not rabidly anti-Microsoft either ; I happen to enjoy using Windows 7 while coding C # at work... ) and I just do n't see it .
I think the iPhone is far from the perfect UI but it is consistent and functional .
This thing appears to me to be neither .
I was going to give them the benefit of the doubt ( my first thought was " wow , that looks like shit... well maybe this is a very early preview of their UI " ) , but then I saw your post and someone else saying it reminds them of the Zune... so that 's really how they intend it to look ?
Just as one example , is having " lists with text cut off on the sides of the phone " actually a desirable feature to someone ?
It 's one thing to be minimalistic , but I do n't think it needs to look messy to be so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm something of an Apple fanboi as well (and not rabidly anti-Microsoft either; I happen to enjoy using Windows 7 while coding C# at work...) and I just don't see it.
I think the iPhone is far from the perfect UI but it is consistent and functional.
This thing appears to me to be neither.
I was going to give them the benefit of the doubt (my first thought was "wow, that looks like shit... well maybe this is a very early preview of their UI"), but then I saw your post and someone else saying it reminds them of the Zune... so that's really how they intend it to look?
Just as one example, is having "lists with text cut off on the sides of the phone" actually a desirable feature to someone?
It's one thing to be minimalistic, but I don't think it needs to look messy to be so.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146238</id>
	<title>Re:unfairly burdened by Microsoft management</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266260100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WinMo is used widely by business that rely on apps to service tens, even hundreds of thousands of employees.  Having a phone OS that will be running and supported in 3-4 years is a big plus when you support 10,000 mobile devices.  Having one that runs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET is nice too when you start factoring in developer time.</p><p>You obviously have no clue what you are talking about other than the slashdot headlines you read and the iphone/android wet dream you have at night.  Arrogance?  Pot, meet kettle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WinMo is used widely by business that rely on apps to service tens , even hundreds of thousands of employees .
Having a phone OS that will be running and supported in 3-4 years is a big plus when you support 10,000 mobile devices .
Having one that runs .NET is nice too when you start factoring in developer time.You obviously have no clue what you are talking about other than the slashdot headlines you read and the iphone/android wet dream you have at night .
Arrogance ? Pot , meet kettle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WinMo is used widely by business that rely on apps to service tens, even hundreds of thousands of employees.
Having a phone OS that will be running and supported in 3-4 years is a big plus when you support 10,000 mobile devices.
Having one that runs .NET is nice too when you start factoring in developer time.You obviously have no clue what you are talking about other than the slashdot headlines you read and the iphone/android wet dream you have at night.
Arrogance?  Pot, meet kettle.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145844</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>Aceticon</author>
	<datestamp>1266258060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Iphone world domination?</p><p>I don't know what world is being referred here, probably the marketing and fairy tale world. Last time I checked, Apple was a marginal player in the real world (i.e., not some particular geography or some fashionable pundits).</p><p>In the real world, Nokia might be the one to talk about, but even so, its share is far from "world domination"</p></div></blockquote><p>You have to give a little leeway to US(ian) Slashdotters on this one - in the US market the iPhone was probably the first half-way decent mobile phone that was actually being willingly sold by the mobile telecoms.</p><p>In a market dominated by a small number of telecoms with a Government given monopoly, where most phone sets are locked and  provided by the telecoms, Apple's "Mobile phone with features as have been provided outside the US for years but marketed as hippy and cool instead of geeky" probably looked like an earth shattering new invention.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Iphone world domination ? I do n't know what world is being referred here , probably the marketing and fairy tale world .
Last time I checked , Apple was a marginal player in the real world ( i.e. , not some particular geography or some fashionable pundits ) .In the real world , Nokia might be the one to talk about , but even so , its share is far from " world domination " You have to give a little leeway to US ( ian ) Slashdotters on this one - in the US market the iPhone was probably the first half-way decent mobile phone that was actually being willingly sold by the mobile telecoms.In a market dominated by a small number of telecoms with a Government given monopoly , where most phone sets are locked and provided by the telecoms , Apple 's " Mobile phone with features as have been provided outside the US for years but marketed as hippy and cool instead of geeky " probably looked like an earth shattering new invention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Iphone world domination?I don't know what world is being referred here, probably the marketing and fairy tale world.
Last time I checked, Apple was a marginal player in the real world (i.e., not some particular geography or some fashionable pundits).In the real world, Nokia might be the one to talk about, but even so, its share is far from "world domination"You have to give a little leeway to US(ian) Slashdotters on this one - in the US market the iPhone was probably the first half-way decent mobile phone that was actually being willingly sold by the mobile telecoms.In a market dominated by a small number of telecoms with a Government given monopoly, where most phone sets are locked and  provided by the telecoms, Apple's "Mobile phone with features as have been provided outside the US for years but marketed as hippy and cool instead of geeky" probably looked like an earth shattering new invention.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145752</id>
	<title>My Q did something similar</title>
	<author>swb</author>
	<datestamp>1266257520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Motorola Q on Verizon did something similar when placing calls.</p><p>The phone would indicate a call failure but the call would actually go through and I was able to talk to the remote party.</p><p>It would self-correct if the remote party answered and then hung up, but if you got a never-ending ring or some remote system that would stay active forever you had to power the phone off to disconnect.  Placing another call would fail (even though the phone thought it was disconnected).</p><p>Verizon had no fix and Motorola didn't either and it was a once a week or more phenomenon.  Not enough to cause me to toss the phone but enough to be super annoying.  And it was a problem that followed to a replacement Q that I got mid-contract when my first bricked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Motorola Q on Verizon did something similar when placing calls.The phone would indicate a call failure but the call would actually go through and I was able to talk to the remote party.It would self-correct if the remote party answered and then hung up , but if you got a never-ending ring or some remote system that would stay active forever you had to power the phone off to disconnect .
Placing another call would fail ( even though the phone thought it was disconnected ) .Verizon had no fix and Motorola did n't either and it was a once a week or more phenomenon .
Not enough to cause me to toss the phone but enough to be super annoying .
And it was a problem that followed to a replacement Q that I got mid-contract when my first bricked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Motorola Q on Verizon did something similar when placing calls.The phone would indicate a call failure but the call would actually go through and I was able to talk to the remote party.It would self-correct if the remote party answered and then hung up, but if you got a never-ending ring or some remote system that would stay active forever you had to power the phone off to disconnect.
Placing another call would fail (even though the phone thought it was disconnected).Verizon had no fix and Motorola didn't either and it was a once a week or more phenomenon.
Not enough to cause me to toss the phone but enough to be super annoying.
And it was a problem that followed to a replacement Q that I got mid-contract when my first bricked.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144772</id>
	<title>Bing Bong Bang</title>
	<author>GerryHattrick</author>
	<datestamp>1266252900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you see that for a manufacturer to get a license they have to dedicate a hardware button to the Bing-thing?  I like my HTC with antiquated Windows Mobile, but with that condition I wouldn't upgrade even if it were feasible and free.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you see that for a manufacturer to get a license they have to dedicate a hardware button to the Bing-thing ?
I like my HTC with antiquated Windows Mobile , but with that condition I would n't upgrade even if it were feasible and free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you see that for a manufacturer to get a license they have to dedicate a hardware button to the Bing-thing?
I like my HTC with antiquated Windows Mobile, but with that condition I wouldn't upgrade even if it were feasible and free.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147836</id>
	<title>Windows OSes</title>
	<author>DeanFox</author>
	<datestamp>1266224880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...that is going to work properly...</p></div><p>That's where I stopped reading.  I just spent two days fixing panicked friends PCs after they installed Tuesday's updates and their systems wouldn't boot.  Granted they were rooted... but the OS I run, I can click, surf - whatever and never be, how do they say it, pwned.
<br> <br>
I don't want a phone that for the sake of walking on to a subway station platform is hacked by the kid standing next to me.
<br> <br>
-[d]-</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...that is going to work properly...That 's where I stopped reading .
I just spent two days fixing panicked friends PCs after they installed Tuesday 's updates and their systems would n't boot .
Granted they were rooted... but the OS I run , I can click , surf - whatever and never be , how do they say it , pwned .
I do n't want a phone that for the sake of walking on to a subway station platform is hacked by the kid standing next to me .
- [ d ] -</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...that is going to work properly...That's where I stopped reading.
I just spent two days fixing panicked friends PCs after they installed Tuesday's updates and their systems wouldn't boot.
Granted they were rooted... but the OS I run, I can click, surf - whatever and never be, how do they say it, pwned.
I don't want a phone that for the sake of walking on to a subway station platform is hacked by the kid standing next to me.
-[d]-
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31161444</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1266320340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft did just what Palm did.. they added phone APIs to an existing PDA OS.  Doesn't matter how long you've been at it... it matters how well you do it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft did just what Palm did.. they added phone APIs to an existing PDA OS .
Does n't matter how long you 've been at it... it matters how well you do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft did just what Palm did.. they added phone APIs to an existing PDA OS.
Doesn't matter how long you've been at it... it matters how well you do it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144796</id>
	<title>Great Name, Its sure to Inspire uninterest.</title>
	<author>Jackie\_Chan\_Fan</author>
	<datestamp>1266252960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows Phone 7 Series.</p><p>They might as well call it the Zunelephone.</p><p>Microsoft better hire the cool kids because the nerds lack the pizazz.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows Phone 7 Series.They might as well call it the Zunelephone.Microsoft better hire the cool kids because the nerds lack the pizazz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows Phone 7 Series.They might as well call it the Zunelephone.Microsoft better hire the cool kids because the nerds lack the pizazz.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31150728</id>
	<title>Re:Nicely done.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266240120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Essentially<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. you're encouraging them to keep plagiarizing other peoples work.  They don't need this encouragement<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... its their business model.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Essentially .. you 're encouraging them to keep plagiarizing other peoples work .
They do n't need this encouragement ... its their business model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Essentially .. you're encouraging them to keep plagiarizing other peoples work.
They don't need this encouragement ... its their business model.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146480</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>iluvcapra</author>
	<datestamp>1266261240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Iphone world domination?</p><p>I don't know what world is being referred here, probably the marketing and fairy tale world. Last time I checked, Apple was a marginal player in the real world (i.e., not some particular geography or some fashionable pundits).</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Neither the iPhone nor the Windows-7-Series-Social-Squirt phone will probably ever be the dominant one in terms of share.</p><p>The iPhone will continue to be utterly dominant in terms of mentions and mindshare, because on its introduction it instantly became the benchmark against which all touch-appstore-smartphones were judged.  This is just a function of the fact that it was the first to market and delivered a product that was so different from everything else at the time.  Every smartphone that comes out now is compared to either the iPhone or the Blackberry, is judged worth your time or not in comparison to those, and phone vendors now all try to ape the features that iPhone was first-to-market with.  By this standard, the friggin Newton was the <em>dominant</em> tablet PDA, since always seemed to get mentioned in comparison to other feature-limited table-touchscreen-stylus computers, even though it never really sold and disappeared unlamented.  It was just very new and made a big impression, and everyone wrote about it and compared other offerings to it, and it was the one to beat.</p><p>In this regard, this Windows phone will go nowhere, since it doesn't seem to really be trying to differentiate itself from the iPhone, but just give a different take on the same sort of gadget.  It might sell a lot, but no one will ever talk about how revolutionary or new it was, since it seems to basically do what an iPhone does, just with buttons in different places and different fonts.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Iphone world domination ? I do n't know what world is being referred here , probably the marketing and fairy tale world .
Last time I checked , Apple was a marginal player in the real world ( i.e. , not some particular geography or some fashionable pundits ) .
Neither the iPhone nor the Windows-7-Series-Social-Squirt phone will probably ever be the dominant one in terms of share.The iPhone will continue to be utterly dominant in terms of mentions and mindshare , because on its introduction it instantly became the benchmark against which all touch-appstore-smartphones were judged .
This is just a function of the fact that it was the first to market and delivered a product that was so different from everything else at the time .
Every smartphone that comes out now is compared to either the iPhone or the Blackberry , is judged worth your time or not in comparison to those , and phone vendors now all try to ape the features that iPhone was first-to-market with .
By this standard , the friggin Newton was the dominant tablet PDA , since always seemed to get mentioned in comparison to other feature-limited table-touchscreen-stylus computers , even though it never really sold and disappeared unlamented .
It was just very new and made a big impression , and everyone wrote about it and compared other offerings to it , and it was the one to beat.In this regard , this Windows phone will go nowhere , since it does n't seem to really be trying to differentiate itself from the iPhone , but just give a different take on the same sort of gadget .
It might sell a lot , but no one will ever talk about how revolutionary or new it was , since it seems to basically do what an iPhone does , just with buttons in different places and different fonts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Iphone world domination?I don't know what world is being referred here, probably the marketing and fairy tale world.
Last time I checked, Apple was a marginal player in the real world (i.e., not some particular geography or some fashionable pundits).
Neither the iPhone nor the Windows-7-Series-Social-Squirt phone will probably ever be the dominant one in terms of share.The iPhone will continue to be utterly dominant in terms of mentions and mindshare, because on its introduction it instantly became the benchmark against which all touch-appstore-smartphones were judged.
This is just a function of the fact that it was the first to market and delivered a product that was so different from everything else at the time.
Every smartphone that comes out now is compared to either the iPhone or the Blackberry, is judged worth your time or not in comparison to those, and phone vendors now all try to ape the features that iPhone was first-to-market with.
By this standard, the friggin Newton was the dominant tablet PDA, since always seemed to get mentioned in comparison to other feature-limited table-touchscreen-stylus computers, even though it never really sold and disappeared unlamented.
It was just very new and made a big impression, and everyone wrote about it and compared other offerings to it, and it was the one to beat.In this regard, this Windows phone will go nowhere, since it doesn't seem to really be trying to differentiate itself from the iPhone, but just give a different take on the same sort of gadget.
It might sell a lot, but no one will ever talk about how revolutionary or new it was, since it seems to basically do what an iPhone does, just with buttons in different places and different fonts.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146254</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>frank249</author>
	<datestamp>1266260160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[cough]According to market analysis firm <a href="http://www.macvideo.tv/editing/news/index.cfm?newsId=3212633&amp;pagType=samechandate" title="macvideo.tv">comScore</a> [macvideo.tv] Motorola still controls a leading position in the overall mobile market, while Blackberry maker RIM actually commands the smartphone market with over 41 per cent of the installed base.  Apple's smartphone market share puts it in second spot with 25 per cent of the market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ cough ] According to market analysis firm comScore [ macvideo.tv ] Motorola still controls a leading position in the overall mobile market , while Blackberry maker RIM actually commands the smartphone market with over 41 per cent of the installed base .
Apple 's smartphone market share puts it in second spot with 25 per cent of the market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[cough]According to market analysis firm comScore [macvideo.tv] Motorola still controls a leading position in the overall mobile market, while Blackberry maker RIM actually commands the smartphone market with over 41 per cent of the installed base.
Apple's smartphone market share puts it in second spot with 25 per cent of the market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144816</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1266253080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Others have mentioned how they're talking about smart phones, and the iPhone is fast-growing in that market and gets most of the attention.
</p><p>I'd also like to point out that the iPhone has been extremely influential in the smart phone market.  Look at smart phones before the iPhone came out and compare them to what's coming out now.  Everyone is the copying design concepts, UI conventions, and capabilities of the iPhone.  Carriers are losing control of the devices being put out these days, and it started with Apple's refusal to allow the carriers to touch their designs.  The iPhone is winning in spirit, even if not in sales numbers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Others have mentioned how they 're talking about smart phones , and the iPhone is fast-growing in that market and gets most of the attention .
I 'd also like to point out that the iPhone has been extremely influential in the smart phone market .
Look at smart phones before the iPhone came out and compare them to what 's coming out now .
Everyone is the copying design concepts , UI conventions , and capabilities of the iPhone .
Carriers are losing control of the devices being put out these days , and it started with Apple 's refusal to allow the carriers to touch their designs .
The iPhone is winning in spirit , even if not in sales numbers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Others have mentioned how they're talking about smart phones, and the iPhone is fast-growing in that market and gets most of the attention.
I'd also like to point out that the iPhone has been extremely influential in the smart phone market.
Look at smart phones before the iPhone came out and compare them to what's coming out now.
Everyone is the copying design concepts, UI conventions, and capabilities of the iPhone.
Carriers are losing control of the devices being put out these days, and it started with Apple's refusal to allow the carriers to touch their designs.
The iPhone is winning in spirit, even if not in sales numbers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144384</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266251340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh wow. "BSOD." "FreeBSD" elitist. "Interesting."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh wow .
" BSOD. " " FreeBSD " elitist .
" Interesting. "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh wow.
"BSOD." "FreeBSD" elitist.
"Interesting."</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145600</id>
	<title>Me Too!</title>
	<author>Powys</author>
	<datestamp>1266256680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OO  OO ME TOO ME TOO!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>OO OO ME TOO ME TOO !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OO  OO ME TOO ME TOO!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144404</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>JaredOfEuropa</author>
	<datestamp>1266251460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't forget the physical aspects either.  The iPhone's GUI is succesful partly because the phone has an exceptionally good touch screen.  And I don't mean multi-touch or pinch zooming, I mean a screen that registers touches and gestures accurately, so that the interface is easy to use even with fat fingers.  Show me another phone that I can operate (even quickly type an SMS) one-handed using the thumb of the hand holding the phone...  My message to manufacturers of competing phones would be: don't skimp on the screen!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget the physical aspects either .
The iPhone 's GUI is succesful partly because the phone has an exceptionally good touch screen .
And I do n't mean multi-touch or pinch zooming , I mean a screen that registers touches and gestures accurately , so that the interface is easy to use even with fat fingers .
Show me another phone that I can operate ( even quickly type an SMS ) one-handed using the thumb of the hand holding the phone... My message to manufacturers of competing phones would be : do n't skimp on the screen !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget the physical aspects either.
The iPhone's GUI is succesful partly because the phone has an exceptionally good touch screen.
And I don't mean multi-touch or pinch zooming, I mean a screen that registers touches and gestures accurately, so that the interface is easy to use even with fat fingers.
Show me another phone that I can operate (even quickly type an SMS) one-handed using the thumb of the hand holding the phone...  My message to manufacturers of competing phones would be: don't skimp on the screen!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144176</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144380</id>
	<title>Where is the SDK ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266251280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do I write apps for it? Is iPhone SDK working on it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do I write apps for it ?
Is iPhone SDK working on it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do I write apps for it?
Is iPhone SDK working on it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146332</id>
	<title>Microsoft makes something that doesn't s u c k</title>
	<author>beadwindow</author>
	<datestamp>1266260460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't s u c k is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The day Microsoft makes something that does n't s u c k is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't s u c k is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147046</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Phone 7 Series Video</title>
	<author>ajlisows</author>
	<datestamp>1266264120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It looks kind of interesting, but I was a bit confused.  Is this the "Facebook OS" or is it "Windows 7"?  A lot of what is showed in that video revolved around Facebook. As someone who does not use Facebook all that often, I would have liked to see some other examples of what is done with the UI.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks kind of interesting , but I was a bit confused .
Is this the " Facebook OS " or is it " Windows 7 " ?
A lot of what is showed in that video revolved around Facebook .
As someone who does not use Facebook all that often , I would have liked to see some other examples of what is done with the UI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks kind of interesting, but I was a bit confused.
Is this the "Facebook OS" or is it "Windows 7"?
A lot of what is showed in that video revolved around Facebook.
As someone who does not use Facebook all that often, I would have liked to see some other examples of what is done with the UI.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147616</id>
	<title>Re:Nicely done.</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1266266760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it looks nice, but I wonder how usable it is. It's hard to tell from a short video. It does seem like they have sacrificed a bit of functionality for the sake of being stylish. Such as the giant words at the top that get cropped as you scroll sideways, yet don't really tell you which page you're on. It's looks as if they were trying to use the title as a scroll indicator, which would have been stylish and functional, but it doesn't seem to work well.</p><p>Hopefully it turns out to be a good device, because MS really needs one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it looks nice , but I wonder how usable it is .
It 's hard to tell from a short video .
It does seem like they have sacrificed a bit of functionality for the sake of being stylish .
Such as the giant words at the top that get cropped as you scroll sideways , yet do n't really tell you which page you 're on .
It 's looks as if they were trying to use the title as a scroll indicator , which would have been stylish and functional , but it does n't seem to work well.Hopefully it turns out to be a good device , because MS really needs one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it looks nice, but I wonder how usable it is.
It's hard to tell from a short video.
It does seem like they have sacrificed a bit of functionality for the sake of being stylish.
Such as the giant words at the top that get cropped as you scroll sideways, yet don't really tell you which page you're on.
It's looks as if they were trying to use the title as a scroll indicator, which would have been stylish and functional, but it doesn't seem to work well.Hopefully it turns out to be a good device, because MS really needs one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144390</id>
	<title>I would not know...</title>
	<author>knarf</author>
	<datestamp>1266251340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This <a href="http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/article1348990.ece/Microsoft\_presenteert\_Windows\_Phone\_7" title="volkskrant.nl">came up</a> [volkskrant.nl] in the Dutch 'Volkskrant' (newspaper, literally "people's paper"). It purported to show <a href="http://www.studiosevent.com/newscenter/?id=mobileworldcongress2010&amp;width=468&amp;height=400&amp;color=FF5500&amp;width=460&amp;height=400" title="studiosevent.com">some live video</a> [studiosevent.com] of the phone 'launch'. I did not get to see this video, instead I was told that my browser and platform were not supported so sorry this Silverlight video is not for you.</p><p>Funny, that. This browser and platform have no problems showing video. I guess this phone is just not for me...</p><p>Silly Microsoft. You can not even show a video without building walls around it and still you want me to believe you can build a phone to interact with the real world?</p><p>Ha. Good one. Pull the other one, it's got bells on it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This came up [ volkskrant.nl ] in the Dutch 'Volkskrant ' ( newspaper , literally " people 's paper " ) .
It purported to show some live video [ studiosevent.com ] of the phone 'launch' .
I did not get to see this video , instead I was told that my browser and platform were not supported so sorry this Silverlight video is not for you.Funny , that .
This browser and platform have no problems showing video .
I guess this phone is just not for me...Silly Microsoft .
You can not even show a video without building walls around it and still you want me to believe you can build a phone to interact with the real world ? Ha .
Good one .
Pull the other one , it 's got bells on it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This came up [volkskrant.nl] in the Dutch 'Volkskrant' (newspaper, literally "people's paper").
It purported to show some live video [studiosevent.com] of the phone 'launch'.
I did not get to see this video, instead I was told that my browser and platform were not supported so sorry this Silverlight video is not for you.Funny, that.
This browser and platform have no problems showing video.
I guess this phone is just not for me...Silly Microsoft.
You can not even show a video without building walls around it and still you want me to believe you can build a phone to interact with the real world?Ha.
Good one.
Pull the other one, it's got bells on it...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147112</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>Altus</author>
	<datestamp>1266264480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why is it that nobody can talk about Apple without resorting to hyperbole.</p><p>The iPhone is not dominating the world, you are correct, but to call them a marginal player is just as in accurate.  The iPhone has had a huge impact on the world of cell phones and yet most people either wants it to be the last word in everything or basically irrelevant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why is it that nobody can talk about Apple without resorting to hyperbole.The iPhone is not dominating the world , you are correct , but to call them a marginal player is just as in accurate .
The iPhone has had a huge impact on the world of cell phones and yet most people either wants it to be the last word in everything or basically irrelevant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why is it that nobody can talk about Apple without resorting to hyperbole.The iPhone is not dominating the world, you are correct, but to call them a marginal player is just as in accurate.
The iPhone has had a huge impact on the world of cell phones and yet most people either wants it to be the last word in everything or basically irrelevant.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144140</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31160504</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1266316140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPhone dominates the world of BUZZ, not the actual real world of telephones.</p><p>But their market share has been growing. The iPhone was the first real smartphone for end users. Not even really when it shipped... it was more of a "feature" phone. But with the apps, definitely targeted at regular everyday consumers.</p><p>WinMo? Not yet, definitely in "Windows Phone 7"... following the iPhone, of course. Palm? Maybe a little in the past, but old PalmOS didn't even come with a media player... WebOS, targeted directly at consumers... with Palm, Inc. full of ex-Apple guys, all the way to the CEO. RIM? If you're not forced to use a Blackberry by your office, there's little to recommend it. Android? Well, sure... Android was stated by guys from Danger, Inc. and WebTV... definitely consumer targeted, but it didn't get out until after the iPhone. Nokia... a few geek oriented devices, some smartphones so basic they're hard to tell from feature-phones.</p><p>So yeah, Apple's the one folks are looking at. In a large part, because so many of the established phone concerns have been looking that same way. That doesn't mean the iPhone nailed it, only that they really did fill a gap that, three years ago, few established phone makers believed existed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone dominates the world of BUZZ , not the actual real world of telephones.But their market share has been growing .
The iPhone was the first real smartphone for end users .
Not even really when it shipped... it was more of a " feature " phone .
But with the apps , definitely targeted at regular everyday consumers.WinMo ?
Not yet , definitely in " Windows Phone 7 " ... following the iPhone , of course .
Palm ? Maybe a little in the past , but old PalmOS did n't even come with a media player... WebOS , targeted directly at consumers... with Palm , Inc. full of ex-Apple guys , all the way to the CEO .
RIM ? If you 're not forced to use a Blackberry by your office , there 's little to recommend it .
Android ? Well , sure... Android was stated by guys from Danger , Inc. and WebTV... definitely consumer targeted , but it did n't get out until after the iPhone .
Nokia... a few geek oriented devices , some smartphones so basic they 're hard to tell from feature-phones.So yeah , Apple 's the one folks are looking at .
In a large part , because so many of the established phone concerns have been looking that same way .
That does n't mean the iPhone nailed it , only that they really did fill a gap that , three years ago , few established phone makers believed existed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone dominates the world of BUZZ, not the actual real world of telephones.But their market share has been growing.
The iPhone was the first real smartphone for end users.
Not even really when it shipped... it was more of a "feature" phone.
But with the apps, definitely targeted at regular everyday consumers.WinMo?
Not yet, definitely in "Windows Phone 7"... following the iPhone, of course.
Palm? Maybe a little in the past, but old PalmOS didn't even come with a media player... WebOS, targeted directly at consumers... with Palm, Inc. full of ex-Apple guys, all the way to the CEO.
RIM? If you're not forced to use a Blackberry by your office, there's little to recommend it.
Android? Well, sure... Android was stated by guys from Danger, Inc. and WebTV... definitely consumer targeted, but it didn't get out until after the iPhone.
Nokia... a few geek oriented devices, some smartphones so basic they're hard to tell from feature-phones.So yeah, Apple's the one folks are looking at.
In a large part, because so many of the established phone concerns have been looking that same way.
That doesn't mean the iPhone nailed it, only that they really did fill a gap that, three years ago, few established phone makers believed existed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144996</id>
	<title>Re:Nicely done.</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1266253860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've played with a Zune recently, and was pleasantly surprised.  The UI is similar, and it had a very smooth feel to it.  I think there was something slightly confusing about it to me, but I wasn't used to it.  I didn't know what to expect to happen if I swiped my finger this way or that way.  It was pretty sleek.
</p><p>One of the things I liked about it is that it didn't seem to be the same old "here's a icon, now click on it" sort of interface.  I've been wondering lately if computers will start to move away from the object-oriented model of desktop metaphors and spacial browsers and such, and be able to present an interface that's optimal for whatever it is you're trying to do.  I got the feeling when playing with the zune that Microsoft was asking the same question.
</p><p>I'm not a Microsoft fanboy-- far from it-- but I'd be interested in checking out this phone.  Of course, the next question is going to be, what do the 3rd party apps look like?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've played with a Zune recently , and was pleasantly surprised .
The UI is similar , and it had a very smooth feel to it .
I think there was something slightly confusing about it to me , but I was n't used to it .
I did n't know what to expect to happen if I swiped my finger this way or that way .
It was pretty sleek .
One of the things I liked about it is that it did n't seem to be the same old " here 's a icon , now click on it " sort of interface .
I 've been wondering lately if computers will start to move away from the object-oriented model of desktop metaphors and spacial browsers and such , and be able to present an interface that 's optimal for whatever it is you 're trying to do .
I got the feeling when playing with the zune that Microsoft was asking the same question .
I 'm not a Microsoft fanboy-- far from it-- but I 'd be interested in checking out this phone .
Of course , the next question is going to be , what do the 3rd party apps look like ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've played with a Zune recently, and was pleasantly surprised.
The UI is similar, and it had a very smooth feel to it.
I think there was something slightly confusing about it to me, but I wasn't used to it.
I didn't know what to expect to happen if I swiped my finger this way or that way.
It was pretty sleek.
One of the things I liked about it is that it didn't seem to be the same old "here's a icon, now click on it" sort of interface.
I've been wondering lately if computers will start to move away from the object-oriented model of desktop metaphors and spacial browsers and such, and be able to present an interface that's optimal for whatever it is you're trying to do.
I got the feeling when playing with the zune that Microsoft was asking the same question.
I'm not a Microsoft fanboy-- far from it-- but I'd be interested in checking out this phone.
Of course, the next question is going to be, what do the 3rd party apps look like?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146844</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>raju1kabir</author>
	<datestamp>1266263280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And yet the iPhone is the only one that has actually gotten everyday users to USE their smartphone features to any serious degree. Blackberry users send messages and then cringe about the web browsing. Nokia users (myself included) talk on the phone and then cringe about the web browsing and email. Meanwhile iPhone users are actually doing the things that the other manufacturers have been claiming justified their devices costing 3 times as much as a normal phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And yet the iPhone is the only one that has actually gotten everyday users to USE their smartphone features to any serious degree .
Blackberry users send messages and then cringe about the web browsing .
Nokia users ( myself included ) talk on the phone and then cringe about the web browsing and email .
Meanwhile iPhone users are actually doing the things that the other manufacturers have been claiming justified their devices costing 3 times as much as a normal phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And yet the iPhone is the only one that has actually gotten everyday users to USE their smartphone features to any serious degree.
Blackberry users send messages and then cringe about the web browsing.
Nokia users (myself included) talk on the phone and then cringe about the web browsing and email.
Meanwhile iPhone users are actually doing the things that the other manufacturers have been claiming justified their devices costing 3 times as much as a normal phone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144176</id>
	<title>How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266250200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One reason why the iPhone is such a phenomenal phone is that the user interface permeates everything. Not just the immediate application screen or the app transitions, but at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience.</p><p>While that might sound like marketing gobbledygook, compare the Toshiba T-1 to the iPhone. Both have very cool initial user interfaces. In fact, the Toshiba (WinMo6.x) has a more interesting interface in that it changes to meet the user's needs without hardly any user input. However, once you dig past the first interface, it becomes clear that the WinMo phone is the same old WinMo crap underneath. There is no good widget set, there is no clear UI design guideline, and there is no good way to develop an app that doesn't end up feeling like a clunky mess. The iPhone, on the other hand, has a widget set that is reusable and has intuitive usage, there are very clear design guidelines, and most of all there are real artists who want to make apps for the platform.</p><p>If WinMo7 can break the Windows Mobile mold and really create something that provides a cohesive user interaction concept, then we may see a WinMo8. Otherwise, it may be the end of the road for this OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One reason why the iPhone is such a phenomenal phone is that the user interface permeates everything .
Not just the immediate application screen or the app transitions , but at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience.While that might sound like marketing gobbledygook , compare the Toshiba T-1 to the iPhone .
Both have very cool initial user interfaces .
In fact , the Toshiba ( WinMo6.x ) has a more interesting interface in that it changes to meet the user 's needs without hardly any user input .
However , once you dig past the first interface , it becomes clear that the WinMo phone is the same old WinMo crap underneath .
There is no good widget set , there is no clear UI design guideline , and there is no good way to develop an app that does n't end up feeling like a clunky mess .
The iPhone , on the other hand , has a widget set that is reusable and has intuitive usage , there are very clear design guidelines , and most of all there are real artists who want to make apps for the platform.If WinMo7 can break the Windows Mobile mold and really create something that provides a cohesive user interaction concept , then we may see a WinMo8 .
Otherwise , it may be the end of the road for this OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One reason why the iPhone is such a phenomenal phone is that the user interface permeates everything.
Not just the immediate application screen or the app transitions, but at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience.While that might sound like marketing gobbledygook, compare the Toshiba T-1 to the iPhone.
Both have very cool initial user interfaces.
In fact, the Toshiba (WinMo6.x) has a more interesting interface in that it changes to meet the user's needs without hardly any user input.
However, once you dig past the first interface, it becomes clear that the WinMo phone is the same old WinMo crap underneath.
There is no good widget set, there is no clear UI design guideline, and there is no good way to develop an app that doesn't end up feeling like a clunky mess.
The iPhone, on the other hand, has a widget set that is reusable and has intuitive usage, there are very clear design guidelines, and most of all there are real artists who want to make apps for the platform.If WinMo7 can break the Windows Mobile mold and really create something that provides a cohesive user interaction concept, then we may see a WinMo8.
Otherwise, it may be the end of the road for this OS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147702</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Phone 7 Series Video</title>
	<author>phozz bare</author>
	<datestamp>1266267300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>10 seconds into the video, the screen looks like this:<br> <br>
15:00<br>
Monday<br>
15 Februa<br>
<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...fail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>10 seconds into the video , the screen looks like this : 15 : 00 Monday 15 Februa ...fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>10 seconds into the video, the screen looks like this: 
15:00
Monday
15 Februa
 ...fail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146206</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>Have Blue</author>
	<datestamp>1266259980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not just that, it also has a lot of hidden software tricks that make it easier to communicate your intent. When you put your finger down on a button, it invisibly grows larger, so your finger is less likely to slip off if you move it a fraction while tapping. The keyboard keys also do this, based on the text predictor, to make the next letters in the likeliest words easier to hit. Safari allows you to scroll in every direction if you want but it also makes the horizontal and vertical axes "sticky" so if you're trying to go straight down the page you'll probably succeed without realizing the phone helped you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not just that , it also has a lot of hidden software tricks that make it easier to communicate your intent .
When you put your finger down on a button , it invisibly grows larger , so your finger is less likely to slip off if you move it a fraction while tapping .
The keyboard keys also do this , based on the text predictor , to make the next letters in the likeliest words easier to hit .
Safari allows you to scroll in every direction if you want but it also makes the horizontal and vertical axes " sticky " so if you 're trying to go straight down the page you 'll probably succeed without realizing the phone helped you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not just that, it also has a lot of hidden software tricks that make it easier to communicate your intent.
When you put your finger down on a button, it invisibly grows larger, so your finger is less likely to slip off if you move it a fraction while tapping.
The keyboard keys also do this, based on the text predictor, to make the next letters in the likeliest words easier to hit.
Safari allows you to scroll in every direction if you want but it also makes the horizontal and vertical axes "sticky" so if you're trying to go straight down the page you'll probably succeed without realizing the phone helped you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146376</id>
	<title>I am not sure...</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1266260700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I heard there was a phone out there (don't know which even if this one at all) that you could actually install windows xp on it, and<br>have all the usefulness of a mini computer in your hand with an environment you already knew and could network with your home pc without a glitch. This would be so cool, although I am not sure if this phone does the same thing, I find my plam treo 700 limited in terms of windows functionality with its 5.0 mobile environment. I have a hard time trying to use the defacto windows way of thinking from the xp or before and using it to try and do stuff on mobile environment.</p><p>I would like to see what the 7 will be like, if closer to a real OS like xp, or just another limited version of the 5.0 OS?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard there was a phone out there ( do n't know which even if this one at all ) that you could actually install windows xp on it , andhave all the usefulness of a mini computer in your hand with an environment you already knew and could network with your home pc without a glitch .
This would be so cool , although I am not sure if this phone does the same thing , I find my plam treo 700 limited in terms of windows functionality with its 5.0 mobile environment .
I have a hard time trying to use the defacto windows way of thinking from the xp or before and using it to try and do stuff on mobile environment.I would like to see what the 7 will be like , if closer to a real OS like xp , or just another limited version of the 5.0 OS ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard there was a phone out there (don't know which even if this one at all) that you could actually install windows xp on it, andhave all the usefulness of a mini computer in your hand with an environment you already knew and could network with your home pc without a glitch.
This would be so cool, although I am not sure if this phone does the same thing, I find my plam treo 700 limited in terms of windows functionality with its 5.0 mobile environment.
I have a hard time trying to use the defacto windows way of thinking from the xp or before and using it to try and do stuff on mobile environment.I would like to see what the 7 will be like, if closer to a real OS like xp, or just another limited version of the 5.0 OS?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144354</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266251220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience.</p></div><p>The words!  They burn my brain like acid!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience.The words !
They burn my brain like acid !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience.The words!
They burn my brain like acid!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145984</id>
	<title>Eh?</title>
	<author>Evil Shabazz</author>
	<datestamp>1266258780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even if this <i>is</i> something to get excited about, the Engadget demo made it seem like a piece of shit.  The start screen was clunky and ugly, and it only had enough room for about 4-6 icons before you have to scroll to a new page.  The touch recognition was sloppy, often engaging a function when the user was still trying to scroll around.  Then they showed the keyboard interface which even further showed off the terrible touch recognition - the guy tried to touch one key and got registered and could barely navigate.
<br> <br>
This thing needs some serious refinement.  Until then, it looks like another Zune to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if this is something to get excited about , the Engadget demo made it seem like a piece of shit .
The start screen was clunky and ugly , and it only had enough room for about 4-6 icons before you have to scroll to a new page .
The touch recognition was sloppy , often engaging a function when the user was still trying to scroll around .
Then they showed the keyboard interface which even further showed off the terrible touch recognition - the guy tried to touch one key and got registered and could barely navigate .
This thing needs some serious refinement .
Until then , it looks like another Zune to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if this is something to get excited about, the Engadget demo made it seem like a piece of shit.
The start screen was clunky and ugly, and it only had enough room for about 4-6 icons before you have to scroll to a new page.
The touch recognition was sloppy, often engaging a function when the user was still trying to scroll around.
Then they showed the keyboard interface which even further showed off the terrible touch recognition - the guy tried to touch one key and got registered and could barely navigate.
This thing needs some serious refinement.
Until then, it looks like another Zune to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146316</id>
	<title>"completely new"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266260460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
If Microsoft really did throw out everything and start from scratch, cool.  They really needed to start over, (Windows Mobile was a mess) and assuming they didn't replicate the same mistakes, this could be a good thing.
</p><p>
What prevents me from stating this more positively are phrases scattered through TFA and TFA referenced by TFA. (Emphasis mine in the following.)
</p><p>
"Microsoft has done what would have been unthinkable for the company just a few years ago: started from scratch. <i>At least, that's how things look (and feel)</i> with Windows Phone 7 Series."
</p><p>
"You haven't used an interface like this before (well, okay, <i>if you've used a Zune HD then you've kind of used an interface like this</i>)."
</p><p>
"The phone operating system does away with <i>pretty much</i> every scrap [...]"
</p><p>
This could be either journalistic caution (which would be laudable) or prevarication.  (IE, the article may report "It sure looks from my 30 seconds with the mock-up at some trade show that Microsoft rewrote the entire OS from the ground up", which gets reported as "Microsoft rewrote the entire OS from the ground up".)  When I read this, considering Microsoft's past history of building on top of elderly code whenever possible, I'm thinking this could be anything from a complete rewrite, (least likely) to a general sprucing-up, (more likely) to a new GUI on top of the Windows Mobile 6 base code (most likely).  I'm not saying this is the case -- I'd love to be wrong -- I'm saying one can't tell from the articles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Microsoft really did throw out everything and start from scratch , cool .
They really needed to start over , ( Windows Mobile was a mess ) and assuming they did n't replicate the same mistakes , this could be a good thing .
What prevents me from stating this more positively are phrases scattered through TFA and TFA referenced by TFA .
( Emphasis mine in the following .
) " Microsoft has done what would have been unthinkable for the company just a few years ago : started from scratch .
At least , that 's how things look ( and feel ) with Windows Phone 7 Series .
" " You have n't used an interface like this before ( well , okay , if you 've used a Zune HD then you 've kind of used an interface like this ) .
" " The phone operating system does away with pretty much every scrap [ ... ] " This could be either journalistic caution ( which would be laudable ) or prevarication .
( IE , the article may report " It sure looks from my 30 seconds with the mock-up at some trade show that Microsoft rewrote the entire OS from the ground up " , which gets reported as " Microsoft rewrote the entire OS from the ground up " .
) When I read this , considering Microsoft 's past history of building on top of elderly code whenever possible , I 'm thinking this could be anything from a complete rewrite , ( least likely ) to a general sprucing-up , ( more likely ) to a new GUI on top of the Windows Mobile 6 base code ( most likely ) .
I 'm not saying this is the case -- I 'd love to be wrong -- I 'm saying one ca n't tell from the articles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
If Microsoft really did throw out everything and start from scratch, cool.
They really needed to start over, (Windows Mobile was a mess) and assuming they didn't replicate the same mistakes, this could be a good thing.
What prevents me from stating this more positively are phrases scattered through TFA and TFA referenced by TFA.
(Emphasis mine in the following.
)

"Microsoft has done what would have been unthinkable for the company just a few years ago: started from scratch.
At least, that's how things look (and feel) with Windows Phone 7 Series.
"

"You haven't used an interface like this before (well, okay, if you've used a Zune HD then you've kind of used an interface like this).
"

"The phone operating system does away with pretty much every scrap [...]"

This could be either journalistic caution (which would be laudable) or prevarication.
(IE, the article may report "It sure looks from my 30 seconds with the mock-up at some trade show that Microsoft rewrote the entire OS from the ground up", which gets reported as "Microsoft rewrote the entire OS from the ground up".
)  When I read this, considering Microsoft's past history of building on top of elderly code whenever possible, I'm thinking this could be anything from a complete rewrite, (least likely) to a general sprucing-up, (more likely) to a new GUI on top of the Windows Mobile 6 base code (most likely).
I'm not saying this is the case -- I'd love to be wrong -- I'm saying one can't tell from the articles.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145404</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>NotBornYesterday</author>
	<datestamp>1266255780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So you're saying that MS has been at it that long, and they still haven't done it right? (Pending consumer response to their latest offering, of course.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>So you 're saying that MS has been at it that long , and they still have n't done it right ?
( Pending consumer response to their latest offering , of course .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you're saying that MS has been at it that long, and they still haven't done it right?
(Pending consumer response to their latest offering, of course.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144352</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>foniksonik</author>
	<datestamp>1266251220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you talking phones or smartphones?</p><p><a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/04/apples-iphone-continues-to-outpace-smartphone-industry-growth/" title="macrumors.com">Apple's iPhone Continues to Outpace Smartphone Industry Growth</a> [macrumors.com] - while proving your point in one sense, regarding Nokia, also demonstrates a counterpoint to your 'marginal' comment - 3rd worldwide in volume and market share with over 10\% is anything but marginal. With a growth rate of &gt; 90\% there is every reason to believe iPhones will over take RIM in the near future. If you were to look at "Consumer" phone usage/market share I'd be willing to bet iPhones are already #2 and fast closing on Nokia.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you talking phones or smartphones ? Apple 's iPhone Continues to Outpace Smartphone Industry Growth [ macrumors.com ] - while proving your point in one sense , regarding Nokia , also demonstrates a counterpoint to your 'marginal ' comment - 3rd worldwide in volume and market share with over 10 \ % is anything but marginal .
With a growth rate of &gt; 90 \ % there is every reason to believe iPhones will over take RIM in the near future .
If you were to look at " Consumer " phone usage/market share I 'd be willing to bet iPhones are already # 2 and fast closing on Nokia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you talking phones or smartphones?Apple's iPhone Continues to Outpace Smartphone Industry Growth [macrumors.com] - while proving your point in one sense, regarding Nokia, also demonstrates a counterpoint to your 'marginal' comment - 3rd worldwide in volume and market share with over 10\% is anything but marginal.
With a growth rate of &gt; 90\% there is every reason to believe iPhones will over take RIM in the near future.
If you were to look at "Consumer" phone usage/market share I'd be willing to bet iPhones are already #2 and fast closing on Nokia.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144216</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1266250440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Me too.  Just what I wanted, a Microsoft Phone.  Mobile BSOD, right?  Need a hit of Blue, just turn your phone on.  Whether a person likes Microsoft or not (I don't, of course - I'm typing in a Links browser, while a wait for a FreeBSD to compile some stuff, lol) they are late to the phone game.  Or, more accurately, they are putting to few resources into the market, to late.  Everyone and their dog already has a phone on the market, precious few of which rely on Microsoft applications, let alone a MS OS.  Dumping a zillion cheap MS phones on the market might hurt their main competitors some, but it isn't going to make MS any real money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Me too .
Just what I wanted , a Microsoft Phone .
Mobile BSOD , right ?
Need a hit of Blue , just turn your phone on .
Whether a person likes Microsoft or not ( I do n't , of course - I 'm typing in a Links browser , while a wait for a FreeBSD to compile some stuff , lol ) they are late to the phone game .
Or , more accurately , they are putting to few resources into the market , to late .
Everyone and their dog already has a phone on the market , precious few of which rely on Microsoft applications , let alone a MS OS .
Dumping a zillion cheap MS phones on the market might hurt their main competitors some , but it is n't going to make MS any real money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Me too.
Just what I wanted, a Microsoft Phone.
Mobile BSOD, right?
Need a hit of Blue, just turn your phone on.
Whether a person likes Microsoft or not (I don't, of course - I'm typing in a Links browser, while a wait for a FreeBSD to compile some stuff, lol) they are late to the phone game.
Or, more accurately, they are putting to few resources into the market, to late.
Everyone and their dog already has a phone on the market, precious few of which rely on Microsoft applications, let alone a MS OS.
Dumping a zillion cheap MS phones on the market might hurt their main competitors some, but it isn't going to make MS any real money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145920</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1266258420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If WinMo7 can break the Windows Mobile mold and really create something that provides a cohesive user interaction concept, then we may see a WinMo8.</p></div><p>You'll never see either WinMo8 nor WinMo7. That brand is done. It's "Windows Phone" now.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If WinMo7 can break the Windows Mobile mold and really create something that provides a cohesive user interaction concept , then we may see a WinMo8.You 'll never see either WinMo8 nor WinMo7 .
That brand is done .
It 's " Windows Phone " now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If WinMo7 can break the Windows Mobile mold and really create something that provides a cohesive user interaction concept, then we may see a WinMo8.You'll never see either WinMo8 nor WinMo7.
That brand is done.
It's "Windows Phone" now.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144176</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146970</id>
	<title>tagging beta</title>
	<author>Spliffster</author>
	<datestamp>1266263760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I miss the zune-phone tag FTW!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I miss the zune-phone tag FTW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I miss the zune-phone tag FTW!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31151394</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>grouchomarxist</author>
	<datestamp>1266246900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPhone is in a strong position around the world. Check out this graphic on Mobile Browser market share for Feb. 2010 <a href="http://connect.icrossing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mobile-market-share.gif" title="icrossing.co.uk">http://connect.icrossing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mobile-market-share.gif</a> [icrossing.co.uk]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone is in a strong position around the world .
Check out this graphic on Mobile Browser market share for Feb. 2010 http : //connect.icrossing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mobile-market-share.gif [ icrossing.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone is in a strong position around the world.
Check out this graphic on Mobile Browser market share for Feb. 2010 http://connect.icrossing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mobile-market-share.gif [icrossing.co.uk]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144140</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31153948</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266324180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dnt wry, win th nu genratin gros up wrds wont b usd nemor.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dnt wry , win th nu genratin gros up wrds wont b usd nemor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dnt wry, win th nu genratin gros up wrds wont b usd nemor.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31169218</id>
	<title>Re:Will it make and receive calls?</title>
	<author>gollito</author>
	<datestamp>1265040060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oblig: Even with AT&amp;T?*
<p>
*assuming you live in the USA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oblig : Even with AT&amp;T ?
* * assuming you live in the USA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oblig: Even with AT&amp;T?
*

*assuming you live in the USA</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144310</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144710</id>
	<title>Want abuse with your phone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266252660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Want abuse with your phone? Buy Microsoft iVistaPhone.

<br> <br>My opinion, shared by many others who have been abused by Microsoft.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Want abuse with your phone ?
Buy Microsoft iVistaPhone .
My opinion , shared by many others who have been abused by Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Want abuse with your phone?
Buy Microsoft iVistaPhone.
My opinion, shared by many others who have been abused by Microsoft.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144216</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31152726</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Phone 7 Series Video</title>
	<author>simplexion</author>
	<datestamp>1266261600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Serious? I think the UI looks atrocious.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Serious ?
I think the UI looks atrocious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Serious?
I think the UI looks atrocious.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31153958</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266324480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Synergy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Synergy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Synergy!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144152</id>
	<title>No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266250140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does Microsoft Finally Have a Phone Worth Buying?</p><p>Uhhhh......No.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does Microsoft Finally Have a Phone Worth Buying ? Uhhhh......No .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does Microsoft Finally Have a Phone Worth Buying?Uhhhh......No.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145770</id>
	<title>Re:unfairly burdened by Microsoft management</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266257640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean like in XBox where MSFT didn't any advantage but it managed to now be #1 gaming platform?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean like in XBox where MSFT did n't any advantage but it managed to now be # 1 gaming platform ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean like in XBox where MSFT didn't any advantage but it managed to now be #1 gaming platform?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144266</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144400</id>
	<title>A Microsoft phone?</title>
	<author>1s44c</author>
	<datestamp>1266251460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This must be April fools day..</p><p>I had a phone with a Microsoft OS on it once. It kept crashing so I threw it out. Now I only buy Nokia because I want a phone for phone calls, the alarm clock, and very little else.</p><p>I don't want movies, music, games, or a camera on a phone. I have better devices for all of that stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This must be April fools day..I had a phone with a Microsoft OS on it once .
It kept crashing so I threw it out .
Now I only buy Nokia because I want a phone for phone calls , the alarm clock , and very little else.I do n't want movies , music , games , or a camera on a phone .
I have better devices for all of that stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This must be April fools day..I had a phone with a Microsoft OS on it once.
It kept crashing so I threw it out.
Now I only buy Nokia because I want a phone for phone calls, the alarm clock, and very little else.I don't want movies, music, games, or a camera on a phone.
I have better devices for all of that stuff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31147602</id>
	<title>Re:unfairly burdened by Microsoft management</title>
	<author>frankxcid</author>
	<datestamp>1266266700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although your statement is true, still it is the number of platforms microsoft programs for that is its bane and blessing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although your statement is true , still it is the number of platforms microsoft programs for that is its bane and blessing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although your statement is true, still it is the number of platforms microsoft programs for that is its bane and blessing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144266</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145530</id>
	<title>Re:Nicely done.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266256380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uuum, Microsoft was always really good at making things <em>look</em> good.<br>The problem is: That&rsquo;s about it. ^^<br>They are basically a marketing company with a attached software/hardware division.</p><p>So no wonder you like it. Because that exactly what Apple is.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uuum , Microsoft was always really good at making things look good.The problem is : That    s about it .
^ ^ They are basically a marketing company with a attached software/hardware division.So no wonder you like it .
Because that exactly what Apple is .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uuum, Microsoft was always really good at making things look good.The problem is: That’s about it.
^^They are basically a marketing company with a attached software/hardware division.So no wonder you like it.
Because that exactly what Apple is.
;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145374</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266255660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And <em>when</em> you finally can buy it at the store, it&rsquo;s another Zune from Microsoft.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And when you finally can buy it at the store , it    s another Zune from Microsoft .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And when you finally can buy it at the store, it’s another Zune from Microsoft.
;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144068</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144678</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>1s44c</author>
	<datestamp>1266252480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Until you can buy one at the store, it's another piece of vaporware from Microsoft.</p></div><p>Actually no. It will remain vaporware even when it's on sale. Microsoft marketing is that good.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Until you can buy one at the store , it 's another piece of vaporware from Microsoft.Actually no .
It will remain vaporware even when it 's on sale .
Microsoft marketing is that good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until you can buy one at the store, it's another piece of vaporware from Microsoft.Actually no.
It will remain vaporware even when it's on sale.
Microsoft marketing is that good.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144068</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146808</id>
	<title>Re:Will have to wait and see</title>
	<author>Zorkon</author>
	<datestamp>1266263100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, *NO* multitasking in the new OS. The response of the Microsoft-using phone community is going to be *so* much fun to watch over the next few months.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , * NO * multitasking in the new OS .
The response of the Microsoft-using phone community is going to be * so * much fun to watch over the next few months .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, *NO* multitasking in the new OS.
The response of the Microsoft-using phone community is going to be *so* much fun to watch over the next few months.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145654</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>bemymonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1266256920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're going to compare WinMo to the iPhone, at least do it with a decent WinMo implementation. The TG01 was a trainwreck hardware and driver wise, and the screen wasn't all too great, especially without a stylus.</p><p>An HD2 would have been a much more fair comparison, IMO...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're going to compare WinMo to the iPhone , at least do it with a decent WinMo implementation .
The TG01 was a trainwreck hardware and driver wise , and the screen was n't all too great , especially without a stylus.An HD2 would have been a much more fair comparison , IMO.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're going to compare WinMo to the iPhone, at least do it with a decent WinMo implementation.
The TG01 was a trainwreck hardware and driver wise, and the screen wasn't all too great, especially without a stylus.An HD2 would have been a much more fair comparison, IMO...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144176</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31148508</id>
	<title>Disabling translucence in Windows 7</title>
	<author>Michael Wardle</author>
	<datestamp>1266228120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The [Windows 7] translucent thing is more a distraction than anything else</p></div></blockquote><p>There's several ways to disable that</p><ol> <li>Press Start, type Window Color and Appearance, press Enter, Uncheck Enable Transparency <a href="http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/create-a-shortcut-to-enabledisable-aero-transparency-in-vista/" title="howtogeek.com">details</a> [howtogeek.com] </li><li>Press Start, type Change the theme, press Enter, click on Windows Classic <a href="http://www.vistaclues.com/turn-off-the-fancy-windows-vista-aero-interface/" title="vistaclues.com">details</a> [vistaclues.com] </li><li>Press Start, type services.msc, press Enter, scroll down and right click on Desktop Window Manager Session Manager, choose Properties, change Startup Type to Disabled, click Stop, then click OK <a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/234754-44-permanently-disable" title="tomshardware.com">details</a> [tomshardware.com] </li></ol><p>I use #3, as I don't see a need for any of the special effects, but don't mind the general appearance of the Windows 7 theme.  Disabling dwm also seems to free up some memory.</p><p>I haven't tested #1 or #2, but assume they work.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The [ Windows 7 ] translucent thing is more a distraction than anything elseThere 's several ways to disable that Press Start , type Window Color and Appearance , press Enter , Uncheck Enable Transparency details [ howtogeek.com ] Press Start , type Change the theme , press Enter , click on Windows Classic details [ vistaclues.com ] Press Start , type services.msc , press Enter , scroll down and right click on Desktop Window Manager Session Manager , choose Properties , change Startup Type to Disabled , click Stop , then click OK details [ tomshardware.com ] I use # 3 , as I do n't see a need for any of the special effects , but do n't mind the general appearance of the Windows 7 theme .
Disabling dwm also seems to free up some memory.I have n't tested # 1 or # 2 , but assume they work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The [Windows 7] translucent thing is more a distraction than anything elseThere's several ways to disable that Press Start, type Window Color and Appearance, press Enter, Uncheck Enable Transparency details [howtogeek.com] Press Start, type Change the theme, press Enter, click on Windows Classic details [vistaclues.com] Press Start, type services.msc, press Enter, scroll down and right click on Desktop Window Manager Session Manager, choose Properties, change Startup Type to Disabled, click Stop, then click OK details [tomshardware.com] I use #3, as I don't see a need for any of the special effects, but don't mind the general appearance of the Windows 7 theme.
Disabling dwm also seems to free up some memory.I haven't tested #1 or #2, but assume they work.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144412</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144990</id>
	<title>Re:A Microsoft phone?</title>
	<author>amorsen</author>
	<datestamp>1266253800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't want movies, music, games, or a camera on a phone. I have better devices for all of that stuff.</p></div><p>Once you're carrying around a device which does movies, music, and games, it seems silly to have to carry an extra device just to make calls. Especially since the former device needs a SIM slot anyway to get on the Internet when not at home.</p><p>Sure, if you do a lot of outgoing phone calls, you need something better than a typical smartphone to do them on. The rest of us can live with somewhat limited phone ergonomics.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't want movies , music , games , or a camera on a phone .
I have better devices for all of that stuff.Once you 're carrying around a device which does movies , music , and games , it seems silly to have to carry an extra device just to make calls .
Especially since the former device needs a SIM slot anyway to get on the Internet when not at home.Sure , if you do a lot of outgoing phone calls , you need something better than a typical smartphone to do them on .
The rest of us can live with somewhat limited phone ergonomics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't want movies, music, games, or a camera on a phone.
I have better devices for all of that stuff.Once you're carrying around a device which does movies, music, and games, it seems silly to have to carry an extra device just to make calls.
Especially since the former device needs a SIM slot anyway to get on the Internet when not at home.Sure, if you do a lot of outgoing phone calls, you need something better than a typical smartphone to do them on.
The rest of us can live with somewhat limited phone ergonomics.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144400</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144774</id>
	<title>More info @ BBC News</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266252900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8515915.stm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8515915.stm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8515915.stm</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144670</id>
	<title>ZuneHD OS?  Good luck with that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266252420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The ZuneHD was supposed to be the savior of MS in the PMP market.  It has been a dismal failure.  Despite the relentless and sometimes suspicious hype surrounding it leading up to its release.  You couldn't visit techcrunch, engadget, digg, slashdot, etc.  without contentless comment after comment of crap like, "Hell yeah, can't wait to dump my ipod touch and get a ZuneHD!"  Yeah.  Sure.  The ZuneHD went from number 2 on Amazon to number 13 in something like a few days.  That's lower than many of the sansa models.  Bear in mind, that the ipod had something like the first 5 slots.  I think I'll check now...  Yep, just as I suspected.  The first 25 are mostly dominated by Apple products with the Zune not even being on the page.  And you think this phone OS which is based very much on the same thing is going to do much better?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The ZuneHD was supposed to be the savior of MS in the PMP market .
It has been a dismal failure .
Despite the relentless and sometimes suspicious hype surrounding it leading up to its release .
You could n't visit techcrunch , engadget , digg , slashdot , etc .
without contentless comment after comment of crap like , " Hell yeah , ca n't wait to dump my ipod touch and get a ZuneHD !
" Yeah .
Sure. The ZuneHD went from number 2 on Amazon to number 13 in something like a few days .
That 's lower than many of the sansa models .
Bear in mind , that the ipod had something like the first 5 slots .
I think I 'll check now... Yep , just as I suspected .
The first 25 are mostly dominated by Apple products with the Zune not even being on the page .
And you think this phone OS which is based very much on the same thing is going to do much better ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ZuneHD was supposed to be the savior of MS in the PMP market.
It has been a dismal failure.
Despite the relentless and sometimes suspicious hype surrounding it leading up to its release.
You couldn't visit techcrunch, engadget, digg, slashdot, etc.
without contentless comment after comment of crap like, "Hell yeah, can't wait to dump my ipod touch and get a ZuneHD!
"  Yeah.
Sure.  The ZuneHD went from number 2 on Amazon to number 13 in something like a few days.
That's lower than many of the sansa models.
Bear in mind, that the ipod had something like the first 5 slots.
I think I'll check now...  Yep, just as I suspected.
The first 25 are mostly dominated by Apple products with the Zune not even being on the page.
And you think this phone OS which is based very much on the same thing is going to do much better?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145084</id>
	<title>Re:unfairly burdened by Microsoft management</title>
	<author>JaredOfEuropa</author>
	<datestamp>1266254340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Burdened by management?  Interestingly, the success of Apple's products is often attributed to design decisions that have been directly influenced by Jobs.  One article even went so far as to state that Apple designs for a single tarket market: "Steve Jobs"; success in other markets follows from that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Burdened by management ?
Interestingly , the success of Apple 's products is often attributed to design decisions that have been directly influenced by Jobs .
One article even went so far as to state that Apple designs for a single tarket market : " Steve Jobs " ; success in other markets follows from that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Burdened by management?
Interestingly, the success of Apple's products is often attributed to design decisions that have been directly influenced by Jobs.
One article even went so far as to state that Apple designs for a single tarket market: "Steve Jobs"; success in other markets follows from that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144388</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1266251340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>While there are few examples in this current decade (after all its hardly 2 months old) you only need to look back to see 2 noticable examples of  software vaporware. <br> <br>

A) WinFS ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS</a> [wikipedia.org] )<br> <br>

and also <br> <br>

B) Longhorn, no Vista doesn't count but the pre-2004 version before they scrapped it and restarted</htmltext>
<tokenext>While there are few examples in this current decade ( after all its hardly 2 months old ) you only need to look back to see 2 noticable examples of software vaporware .
A ) WinFS ( http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS [ wikipedia.org ] ) and also B ) Longhorn , no Vista does n't count but the pre-2004 version before they scrapped it and restarted</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While there are few examples in this current decade (after all its hardly 2 months old) you only need to look back to see 2 noticable examples of  software vaporware.
A) WinFS ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS [wikipedia.org] ) 

and also  

B) Longhorn, no Vista doesn't count but the pre-2004 version before they scrapped it and restarted</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31149292</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>rjch</author>
	<datestamp>1266232020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Microsoft's first OS for smartphones (Pocket PC 2002) was release in October 2001, that's over 5 years before Apple and a full 7 years before Google's foray into the mobile platform. You can say a lot, mostly bad, about it, but MS has been at this longer than those two companies put together.</p></div><p>You'd have thought in that time that they might actually have made some progress.

As part of work, I was given a Windows Mobile 18 months ago - first a WM 6.0 which was subsequently upgraded to 6.1 and finally 6.5.  Almost every review I saw of the two upgrades to WM that I've used have said "it's less crap than the old version" - which I might add, has been exactly my experience.  Whilst they don't tend to bluescreen, they <i>do</i> run slow, are unresponsive, Exchange mail randomly stops updating until I do a send/receive - just to name a few of the irritations I have with the phone.

I've seen Android in action - work has started to switch to Android phones - and there's no comparison.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft 's first OS for smartphones ( Pocket PC 2002 ) was release in October 2001 , that 's over 5 years before Apple and a full 7 years before Google 's foray into the mobile platform .
You can say a lot , mostly bad , about it , but MS has been at this longer than those two companies put together.You 'd have thought in that time that they might actually have made some progress .
As part of work , I was given a Windows Mobile 18 months ago - first a WM 6.0 which was subsequently upgraded to 6.1 and finally 6.5 .
Almost every review I saw of the two upgrades to WM that I 've used have said " it 's less crap than the old version " - which I might add , has been exactly my experience .
Whilst they do n't tend to bluescreen , they do run slow , are unresponsive , Exchange mail randomly stops updating until I do a send/receive - just to name a few of the irritations I have with the phone .
I 've seen Android in action - work has started to switch to Android phones - and there 's no comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft's first OS for smartphones (Pocket PC 2002) was release in October 2001, that's over 5 years before Apple and a full 7 years before Google's foray into the mobile platform.
You can say a lot, mostly bad, about it, but MS has been at this longer than those two companies put together.You'd have thought in that time that they might actually have made some progress.
As part of work, I was given a Windows Mobile 18 months ago - first a WM 6.0 which was subsequently upgraded to 6.1 and finally 6.5.
Almost every review I saw of the two upgrades to WM that I've used have said "it's less crap than the old version" - which I might add, has been exactly my experience.
Whilst they don't tend to bluescreen, they do run slow, are unresponsive, Exchange mail randomly stops updating until I do a send/receive - just to name a few of the irritations I have with the phone.
I've seen Android in action - work has started to switch to Android phones - and there's no comparison.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144878</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1266253320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>there are real artists who want to make apps for the platform.</p></div></blockquote><p>Software developers are artists now? What???</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>there are real artists who want to make apps for the platform.Software developers are artists now ?
What ? ? ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there are real artists who want to make apps for the platform.Software developers are artists now?
What???
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146530</id>
	<title>Windows Marketplace is the only source of apps?</title>
	<author>TerraFrost</author>
	<datestamp>1266261600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to <a href="http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/02/06/windows.phone.7.may.be.deliberate.step.backwards/" title="electronista.com">this article</a> [electronista.com], "<i>Apps would also have to go through a "service based delivery" system such as Windows Marketplace to install, reversing a years-old ability to download apps through the browser or other sources.</i>".  If that's true, I don't care how much of an improvement the interface is - I want no part of it.</p><p>Among other things, that would <i>require</i> you buy a data plan.  As if PDA cellphone's couldn't possibly be useful without one.  Sure, sure, you could just buy a dedicated PDA, but those are becoming increasingly difficult to find (certainly Palm doesn't make them anymore) and something does have to be said for device consolidation.  I'd rather have a single HTC Touch Pro2 in my pocket than trying to stuff a cellphone, a PDA, a camera and a GPS unit into my pockets.</p><p>Further, even if you do have a data plan, requiring all apps be sold through the Windows Marketplace will give Microsoft an unreasonable amount of control.  Remember Google Voice for the iPhone?  Apple denied Google the right to offer it through their App Store because it competed with their own product lineup.  What's to stop Microsoft from doing the same thing?</p><p>And what about apps that are no longer maintained?  There's an SNES emulator available for Windows Mobile and a TI-89 emulator available for Windows Mobile.  Both, near as I can tell, haven't been maintained since Windows Mobile 5 or so.  If those apps didn't work in Windows Mobile 7 because the API changed, that's one thing, but it would be unfortunate if the only thing preventing those apps from being installed was the fact that Microsoft wanted more direct control.  It's like being rejected for a job interview not because you're skills were insufficient but because you didn't put the right buzzwords on your resume to get past the regex HR was using to filter out resumes.  Because you said PHP on your resume instead of PHP5.</p><p>But then again, it seems unlikely Microsoft would let anyone offer an SNES emulator or TI-89 emulator through their app store, even if they were to be actively maintaining it, on the basis that it encourages piracy or some such.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to this article [ electronista.com ] , " Apps would also have to go through a " service based delivery " system such as Windows Marketplace to install , reversing a years-old ability to download apps through the browser or other sources. " .
If that 's true , I do n't care how much of an improvement the interface is - I want no part of it.Among other things , that would require you buy a data plan .
As if PDA cellphone 's could n't possibly be useful without one .
Sure , sure , you could just buy a dedicated PDA , but those are becoming increasingly difficult to find ( certainly Palm does n't make them anymore ) and something does have to be said for device consolidation .
I 'd rather have a single HTC Touch Pro2 in my pocket than trying to stuff a cellphone , a PDA , a camera and a GPS unit into my pockets.Further , even if you do have a data plan , requiring all apps be sold through the Windows Marketplace will give Microsoft an unreasonable amount of control .
Remember Google Voice for the iPhone ?
Apple denied Google the right to offer it through their App Store because it competed with their own product lineup .
What 's to stop Microsoft from doing the same thing ? And what about apps that are no longer maintained ?
There 's an SNES emulator available for Windows Mobile and a TI-89 emulator available for Windows Mobile .
Both , near as I can tell , have n't been maintained since Windows Mobile 5 or so .
If those apps did n't work in Windows Mobile 7 because the API changed , that 's one thing , but it would be unfortunate if the only thing preventing those apps from being installed was the fact that Microsoft wanted more direct control .
It 's like being rejected for a job interview not because you 're skills were insufficient but because you did n't put the right buzzwords on your resume to get past the regex HR was using to filter out resumes .
Because you said PHP on your resume instead of PHP5.But then again , it seems unlikely Microsoft would let anyone offer an SNES emulator or TI-89 emulator through their app store , even if they were to be actively maintaining it , on the basis that it encourages piracy or some such .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to this article [electronista.com], "Apps would also have to go through a "service based delivery" system such as Windows Marketplace to install, reversing a years-old ability to download apps through the browser or other sources.".
If that's true, I don't care how much of an improvement the interface is - I want no part of it.Among other things, that would require you buy a data plan.
As if PDA cellphone's couldn't possibly be useful without one.
Sure, sure, you could just buy a dedicated PDA, but those are becoming increasingly difficult to find (certainly Palm doesn't make them anymore) and something does have to be said for device consolidation.
I'd rather have a single HTC Touch Pro2 in my pocket than trying to stuff a cellphone, a PDA, a camera and a GPS unit into my pockets.Further, even if you do have a data plan, requiring all apps be sold through the Windows Marketplace will give Microsoft an unreasonable amount of control.
Remember Google Voice for the iPhone?
Apple denied Google the right to offer it through their App Store because it competed with their own product lineup.
What's to stop Microsoft from doing the same thing?And what about apps that are no longer maintained?
There's an SNES emulator available for Windows Mobile and a TI-89 emulator available for Windows Mobile.
Both, near as I can tell, haven't been maintained since Windows Mobile 5 or so.
If those apps didn't work in Windows Mobile 7 because the API changed, that's one thing, but it would be unfortunate if the only thing preventing those apps from being installed was the fact that Microsoft wanted more direct control.
It's like being rejected for a job interview not because you're skills were insufficient but because you didn't put the right buzzwords on your resume to get past the regex HR was using to filter out resumes.
Because you said PHP on your resume instead of PHP5.But then again, it seems unlikely Microsoft would let anyone offer an SNES emulator or TI-89 emulator through their app store, even if they were to be actively maintaining it, on the basis that it encourages piracy or some such.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144090</id>
	<title>Vendors will f#$/ it!</title>
	<author>humpback</author>
	<datestamp>1266249840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like the difference between a clean Windows installation and the darn installs vendors make with tons of software that will not work properly th his phone Os will be killed by crappy software from the hardware vendors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like the difference between a clean Windows installation and the darn installs vendors make with tons of software that will not work properly th his phone Os will be killed by crappy software from the hardware vendors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like the difference between a clean Windows installation and the darn installs vendors make with tons of software that will not work properly th his phone Os will be killed by crappy software from the hardware vendors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145602</id>
	<title>Re:Nicely done.</title>
	<author>arielCo</author>
	<datestamp>1266256680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then you're not an Apple fanboi; you just really like the way they make (most of) their products.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then you 're not an Apple fanboi ; you just really like the way they make ( most of ) their products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then you're not an Apple fanboi; you just really like the way they make (most of) their products.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144406</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>mblase</author>
	<datestamp>1266251460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to this article, Motorola is #1 in world mobile phones, while Blackberry is #1 in world smartphones. Blackberry is at 41\%, the iPhone is 25\%, but you ought to consider that (1) iPhones are slowly eating away at Blackberry's share and (2) the iPhone is doing amazingly well considering it's only available on one network, unlike Blackberries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to this article , Motorola is # 1 in world mobile phones , while Blackberry is # 1 in world smartphones .
Blackberry is at 41 \ % , the iPhone is 25 \ % , but you ought to consider that ( 1 ) iPhones are slowly eating away at Blackberry 's share and ( 2 ) the iPhone is doing amazingly well considering it 's only available on one network , unlike Blackberries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to this article, Motorola is #1 in world mobile phones, while Blackberry is #1 in world smartphones.
Blackberry is at 41\%, the iPhone is 25\%, but you ought to consider that (1) iPhones are slowly eating away at Blackberry's share and (2) the iPhone is doing amazingly well considering it's only available on one network, unlike Blackberries.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144530</id>
	<title>Oh shit I got this one!</title>
	<author>MukiMuki</author>
	<datestamp>1266252000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No.</p><p>In two words, Hell no.</p><p>We don't need another fucking mobile platform, let alone one that Microsoft doesn't even have the balls to make a phone from. Google at least has the Nexus One.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No.In two words , Hell no.We do n't need another fucking mobile platform , let alone one that Microsoft does n't even have the balls to make a phone from .
Google at least has the Nexus One .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.In two words, Hell no.We don't need another fucking mobile platform, let alone one that Microsoft doesn't even have the balls to make a phone from.
Google at least has the Nexus One.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145254</id>
	<title>Re:Will it make and receive calls?</title>
	<author>Sabalon</author>
	<datestamp>1266255120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Similar problems on 6.1 and wm6.5.  It's the reason I moved away from WinMobile.  That and my verizon coverage was useless too</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Similar problems on 6.1 and wm6.5 .
It 's the reason I moved away from WinMobile .
That and my verizon coverage was useless too</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Similar problems on 6.1 and wm6.5.
It's the reason I moved away from WinMobile.
That and my verizon coverage was useless too</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31150280</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>im\_thatoneguy</author>
	<datestamp>1266236940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People switch phones when their contract expires.  That's often every 2 years.   It's almost a whole new race every 2 years.  If you miss one go just wait for the next one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People switch phones when their contract expires .
That 's often every 2 years .
It 's almost a whole new race every 2 years .
If you miss one go just wait for the next one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People switch phones when their contract expires.
That's often every 2 years.
It's almost a whole new race every 2 years.
If you miss one go just wait for the next one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144554</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266252060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>According to this article, Motorola is #1 in world mobile phones, while Blackberry is #1 in world smartphones. Blackberry is at 41\%, the iPhone is 25\%, but you ought to consider that (1) iPhones are slowly eating away at Blackberry's share and (2) the iPhone is doing amazingly well considering it's only available on one network, unlike Blackberries.</i></p><p>Iphone is only available on one network? When the iphone came out, it was only available on AT&amp;T in the USA, but maybe you noticed that the calendar year has changed quite a bit since then?</p><p>Since we are talking about <b>WORLDWIDE</b> sales, iphones are available on most networks worldwide.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to this article , Motorola is # 1 in world mobile phones , while Blackberry is # 1 in world smartphones .
Blackberry is at 41 \ % , the iPhone is 25 \ % , but you ought to consider that ( 1 ) iPhones are slowly eating away at Blackberry 's share and ( 2 ) the iPhone is doing amazingly well considering it 's only available on one network , unlike Blackberries.Iphone is only available on one network ?
When the iphone came out , it was only available on AT&amp;T in the USA , but maybe you noticed that the calendar year has changed quite a bit since then ? Since we are talking about WORLDWIDE sales , iphones are available on most networks worldwide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to this article, Motorola is #1 in world mobile phones, while Blackberry is #1 in world smartphones.
Blackberry is at 41\%, the iPhone is 25\%, but you ought to consider that (1) iPhones are slowly eating away at Blackberry's share and (2) the iPhone is doing amazingly well considering it's only available on one network, unlike Blackberries.Iphone is only available on one network?
When the iphone came out, it was only available on AT&amp;T in the USA, but maybe you noticed that the calendar year has changed quite a bit since then?Since we are talking about WORLDWIDE sales, iphones are available on most networks worldwide.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31150872</id>
	<title>{Developers}+</title>
	<author>caywen</author>
	<datestamp>1266241320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The OS looks compelling enough, and I have no doubt there will be quality handsets on the market - HTC can easily make those.</p><p>It's really all about how slick the pipe is between the developers and consumers now. MS hasn't announced an SDK yet, but I'll bet it'll be<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET based and be pretty workable for developers. If developers build the apps, the consumers will come.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The OS looks compelling enough , and I have no doubt there will be quality handsets on the market - HTC can easily make those.It 's really all about how slick the pipe is between the developers and consumers now .
MS has n't announced an SDK yet , but I 'll bet it 'll be .NET based and be pretty workable for developers .
If developers build the apps , the consumers will come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The OS looks compelling enough, and I have no doubt there will be quality handsets on the market - HTC can easily make those.It's really all about how slick the pipe is between the developers and consumers now.
MS hasn't announced an SDK yet, but I'll bet it'll be .NET based and be pretty workable for developers.
If developers build the apps, the consumers will come.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144396</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>Algan</author>
	<datestamp>1266251400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mind share domination. The iphone might not have a large chunk of market share, in terms of raw numbers. But it is the device to beat, the bar every other smartphone manufacturer suddenly found itself being compared to. Sure, there are phones that are better for this and that. Geeks might go for the relative openness of Android. Corporate types will probably prefer the enterprise integration of Blackberry. But the average Joe will always compare them to the iphone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mind share domination .
The iphone might not have a large chunk of market share , in terms of raw numbers .
But it is the device to beat , the bar every other smartphone manufacturer suddenly found itself being compared to .
Sure , there are phones that are better for this and that .
Geeks might go for the relative openness of Android .
Corporate types will probably prefer the enterprise integration of Blackberry .
But the average Joe will always compare them to the iphone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mind share domination.
The iphone might not have a large chunk of market share, in terms of raw numbers.
But it is the device to beat, the bar every other smartphone manufacturer suddenly found itself being compared to.
Sure, there are phones that are better for this and that.
Geeks might go for the relative openness of Android.
Corporate types will probably prefer the enterprise integration of Blackberry.
But the average Joe will always compare them to the iphone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144974</id>
	<title>Re:unfairly burdened by Microsoft management</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266253740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Apple and Google will continue to release three software versions for Microsoft's one, ensuring that MS will once again be left in the dust.</p></div><p>OS X is around longer than XP.<br>Google Chrome is around 18 months old and is on version 4, software versions mean nothing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple and Google will continue to release three software versions for Microsoft 's one , ensuring that MS will once again be left in the dust.OS X is around longer than XP.Google Chrome is around 18 months old and is on version 4 , software versions mean nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Apple and Google will continue to release three software versions for Microsoft's one, ensuring that MS will once again be left in the dust.OS X is around longer than XP.Google Chrome is around 18 months old and is on version 4, software versions mean nothing.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31148270</id>
	<title>Marketing</title>
	<author>clintre</author>
	<datestamp>1266227040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually despite the "love" for Microsoft here, their biggest problem is marketing more than anything. I personally have seen far fewer technology issues or gui issues over the last year or two than ever before. A lot of that has to do with the threat of Apple on the desktop and Linux on the server. However for what ever reason they have not fixed their other achilles heel, marketing.
<br> <br>
It is one are they have never been good at and they have not realized that it, more than anything has hurt them.
<br> <br>
Apple on the other hand is great at marketing and even better at targeting the MS customers base. Google has their own unique way of marketing, because they own the online search and understand how to get the word out with out commercials. Microsoft? they get more mention on the Apple vs Microsoft commercials than their own.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually despite the " love " for Microsoft here , their biggest problem is marketing more than anything .
I personally have seen far fewer technology issues or gui issues over the last year or two than ever before .
A lot of that has to do with the threat of Apple on the desktop and Linux on the server .
However for what ever reason they have not fixed their other achilles heel , marketing .
It is one are they have never been good at and they have not realized that it , more than anything has hurt them .
Apple on the other hand is great at marketing and even better at targeting the MS customers base .
Google has their own unique way of marketing , because they own the online search and understand how to get the word out with out commercials .
Microsoft ? they get more mention on the Apple vs Microsoft commercials than their own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually despite the "love" for Microsoft here, their biggest problem is marketing more than anything.
I personally have seen far fewer technology issues or gui issues over the last year or two than ever before.
A lot of that has to do with the threat of Apple on the desktop and Linux on the server.
However for what ever reason they have not fixed their other achilles heel, marketing.
It is one are they have never been good at and they have not realized that it, more than anything has hurt them.
Apple on the other hand is great at marketing and even better at targeting the MS customers base.
Google has their own unique way of marketing, because they own the online search and understand how to get the word out with out commercials.
Microsoft? they get more mention on the Apple vs Microsoft commercials than their own.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145330</id>
	<title>Exactly right</title>
	<author>Dan East</author>
	<datestamp>1266255420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are exactly right, and other manufactures, like HTC, also provide their own UI which serves as the primary first-layer (and often second-layer) interactiveness that the user experiences. Generally this interface is very good, but as you say, when you get into the nitty-gritty, it's just WM underneath, which is the child of Pocket PC, which is the child of Palm-Sized PC (windows CE 2.11), which is the child of Windows CE 1.0, which was an \_exact\_ copy of the Windows 95 user interface.  And here's the real problem - Microsoft has managed backwards compatibility all this time. There's still a huge amount that can be done while maintaining backwards compatibility, like using those widgets only with older apps. One of my biggest problems with WM 6.5 is its messaging system (specifically the user interface). HTC, again, tried to provide a layer over this as well, but it doesn't go deep enough. But the fact of the matter is the messaging system is implemented by Microsoft, thus they can do anything they want with it without having to worry about backwards compatibility.</p><p>I just have a hard time believing MS could get WM7 wrong. Mainly because everyone and their brother is now producing a decent mobile shell (Apple, Google, Palm, and I've just heard Samsung is joining the fray as well). So MS doesn't even have to do anything groundbreaking or original - merely being on par and in the same paradigm as everyone else would be good enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are exactly right , and other manufactures , like HTC , also provide their own UI which serves as the primary first-layer ( and often second-layer ) interactiveness that the user experiences .
Generally this interface is very good , but as you say , when you get into the nitty-gritty , it 's just WM underneath , which is the child of Pocket PC , which is the child of Palm-Sized PC ( windows CE 2.11 ) , which is the child of Windows CE 1.0 , which was an \ _exact \ _ copy of the Windows 95 user interface .
And here 's the real problem - Microsoft has managed backwards compatibility all this time .
There 's still a huge amount that can be done while maintaining backwards compatibility , like using those widgets only with older apps .
One of my biggest problems with WM 6.5 is its messaging system ( specifically the user interface ) .
HTC , again , tried to provide a layer over this as well , but it does n't go deep enough .
But the fact of the matter is the messaging system is implemented by Microsoft , thus they can do anything they want with it without having to worry about backwards compatibility.I just have a hard time believing MS could get WM7 wrong .
Mainly because everyone and their brother is now producing a decent mobile shell ( Apple , Google , Palm , and I 've just heard Samsung is joining the fray as well ) .
So MS does n't even have to do anything groundbreaking or original - merely being on par and in the same paradigm as everyone else would be good enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are exactly right, and other manufactures, like HTC, also provide their own UI which serves as the primary first-layer (and often second-layer) interactiveness that the user experiences.
Generally this interface is very good, but as you say, when you get into the nitty-gritty, it's just WM underneath, which is the child of Pocket PC, which is the child of Palm-Sized PC (windows CE 2.11), which is the child of Windows CE 1.0, which was an \_exact\_ copy of the Windows 95 user interface.
And here's the real problem - Microsoft has managed backwards compatibility all this time.
There's still a huge amount that can be done while maintaining backwards compatibility, like using those widgets only with older apps.
One of my biggest problems with WM 6.5 is its messaging system (specifically the user interface).
HTC, again, tried to provide a layer over this as well, but it doesn't go deep enough.
But the fact of the matter is the messaging system is implemented by Microsoft, thus they can do anything they want with it without having to worry about backwards compatibility.I just have a hard time believing MS could get WM7 wrong.
Mainly because everyone and their brother is now producing a decent mobile shell (Apple, Google, Palm, and I've just heard Samsung is joining the fray as well).
So MS doesn't even have to do anything groundbreaking or original - merely being on par and in the same paradigm as everyone else would be good enough.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31151534</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Phone 7 Series Video</title>
	<author>grouchomarxist</author>
	<datestamp>1266248220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the UI is visually interesting, but after looking at that video more than once, I couldn't find anything that actually helps you get at your information in a more efficient way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the UI is visually interesting , but after looking at that video more than once , I could n't find anything that actually helps you get at your information in a more efficient way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the UI is visually interesting, but after looking at that video more than once, I couldn't find anything that actually helps you get at your information in a more efficient way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144998</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266253860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Until you can buy one at the store, it's another piece of vaporware from Microsoft.</p></div><p>Exactly. I liked how we never talked about the iPad before you could buy it for instance.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Until you can buy one at the store , it 's another piece of vaporware from Microsoft.Exactly .
I liked how we never talked about the iPad before you could buy it for instance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until you can buy one at the store, it's another piece of vaporware from Microsoft.Exactly.
I liked how we never talked about the iPad before you could buy it for instance.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31152486</id>
	<title>Can I buy a phone that makes phone calls?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266259020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And nothing else? Would be nice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And nothing else ?
Would be nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And nothing else?
Would be nice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31154298</id>
	<title>M$ Phones are full of spyware</title>
	<author>NSN A392-99-964-5927</author>
	<datestamp>1266329700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You just have to look at they're history or COFEE, would you really trust M$ to deliver anything respectful? I have uploaded the user document here <a href="http://www.constructiontalking.com/COFEE.pdf" title="constructiontalking.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.constructiontalking.com/COFEE.pdf</a> [constructiontalking.com] take a look at the user guide now will you ever trust M$ with a phone. I even have an official copy of COFEE legally. Is it trustworthy NO!

Encase is better and any decent system admin knows how to recover data without spyware installed on a windows system, Linux, BSD, MAC OS X, SPARC, Solaris.

Just do not buy this phone. Or maybe you would like to. But you have been warned.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You just have to look at they 're history or COFEE , would you really trust M $ to deliver anything respectful ?
I have uploaded the user document here http : //www.constructiontalking.com/COFEE.pdf [ constructiontalking.com ] take a look at the user guide now will you ever trust M $ with a phone .
I even have an official copy of COFEE legally .
Is it trustworthy NO !
Encase is better and any decent system admin knows how to recover data without spyware installed on a windows system , Linux , BSD , MAC OS X , SPARC , Solaris .
Just do not buy this phone .
Or maybe you would like to .
But you have been warned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You just have to look at they're history or COFEE, would you really trust M$ to deliver anything respectful?
I have uploaded the user document here http://www.constructiontalking.com/COFEE.pdf [constructiontalking.com] take a look at the user guide now will you ever trust M$ with a phone.
I even have an official copy of COFEE legally.
Is it trustworthy NO!
Encase is better and any decent system admin knows how to recover data without spyware installed on a windows system, Linux, BSD, MAC OS X, SPARC, Solaris.
Just do not buy this phone.
Or maybe you would like to.
But you have been warned.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145350</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1266255540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, there's a trick to those growth charts; when you start at zero, sell 10, and you have a HUGE growth rate.</p><p>Lets wait a bit and see how many iPhones are actually around.  Of all the phones I see on people, the iPhone is still pretty rare.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , there 's a trick to those growth charts ; when you start at zero , sell 10 , and you have a HUGE growth rate.Lets wait a bit and see how many iPhones are actually around .
Of all the phones I see on people , the iPhone is still pretty rare .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, there's a trick to those growth charts; when you start at zero, sell 10, and you have a HUGE growth rate.Lets wait a bit and see how many iPhones are actually around.
Of all the phones I see on people, the iPhone is still pretty rare.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144346</id>
	<title>Hardware dictation = fail?</title>
	<author>DavidR1991</author>
	<datestamp>1266251220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fact they're dictating the exact hardware and layout makes me wonder whether (even though the software looks decent) this could crash and burn. Why should hardware manufacturers give up [what is effectively their creative control] for this OS, when they can make whatever they want and shove Android on it with no restrictions?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact they 're dictating the exact hardware and layout makes me wonder whether ( even though the software looks decent ) this could crash and burn .
Why should hardware manufacturers give up [ what is effectively their creative control ] for this OS , when they can make whatever they want and shove Android on it with no restrictions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact they're dictating the exact hardware and layout makes me wonder whether (even though the software looks decent) this could crash and burn.
Why should hardware manufacturers give up [what is effectively their creative control] for this OS, when they can make whatever they want and shove Android on it with no restrictions?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144744</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>1s44c</author>
	<datestamp>1266252780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>*Another* piece? Care to name some recent ones? Like in this decade?</p></div><p>Vista. Something with the same name turned up but everything they promised didn't turn up with it.</p><p>Certified hardware - vapor<br>Better user experience - vapor<br>Most secure windows - vapor<br>It would make you more productive - vapor<br>And so on..</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>* Another * piece ?
Care to name some recent ones ?
Like in this decade ? Vista .
Something with the same name turned up but everything they promised did n't turn up with it.Certified hardware - vaporBetter user experience - vaporMost secure windows - vaporIt would make you more productive - vaporAnd so on. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*Another* piece?
Care to name some recent ones?
Like in this decade?Vista.
Something with the same name turned up but everything they promised didn't turn up with it.Certified hardware - vaporBetter user experience - vaporMost secure windows - vaporIt would make you more productive - vaporAnd so on..
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145722</id>
	<title>Re:Will it make and receive calls?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266257400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>same here. that is fucking annoying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>same here .
that is fucking annoying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>same here.
that is fucking annoying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145802</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266257820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They can't optimize their code to be as fast as maemo or iphone-os while using the same eye candiness, that's why they have to go this minimalist bullshit way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They ca n't optimize their code to be as fast as maemo or iphone-os while using the same eye candiness , that 's why they have to go this minimalist bullshit way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They can't optimize their code to be as fast as maemo or iphone-os while using the same eye candiness, that's why they have to go this minimalist bullshit way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145440</id>
	<title>Finally, no more shiny buttons</title>
	<author>abigsmurf</author>
	<datestamp>1266255960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm really loving that interface. Stylish minimalism that should make it even easier to use than the iphone.
<br> <br>
Best of all, solid, bold colours. None of that plasticy, shiny stuff that has been everywhere since the early days of 'Web 2.0'.
<br> <br>
A real attempt to innovate mobile interfaces rather than cloning the iPhone is really surprising. I just hope they've really made an attempt to make it reliable unlike previous versions of WinMo.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm really loving that interface .
Stylish minimalism that should make it even easier to use than the iphone .
Best of all , solid , bold colours .
None of that plasticy , shiny stuff that has been everywhere since the early days of 'Web 2.0' .
A real attempt to innovate mobile interfaces rather than cloning the iPhone is really surprising .
I just hope they 've really made an attempt to make it reliable unlike previous versions of WinMo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm really loving that interface.
Stylish minimalism that should make it even easier to use than the iphone.
Best of all, solid, bold colours.
None of that plasticy, shiny stuff that has been everywhere since the early days of 'Web 2.0'.
A real attempt to innovate mobile interfaces rather than cloning the iPhone is really surprising.
I just hope they've really made an attempt to make it reliable unlike previous versions of WinMo.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144410</id>
	<title>no soup for you</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266251460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DRM = teh suck</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DRM = teh suck</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DRM = teh suck</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31145370</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>Rich0</author>
	<datestamp>1266255660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144674</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>Laglorden</author>
	<datestamp>1266252480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean the article with the headline "comScore: Apple gained US smartphone market share in December"</p><p>Which only talks about US market share, is that the article you are basing your "worldwide" market share data on?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean the article with the headline " comScore : Apple gained US smartphone market share in December " Which only talks about US market share , is that the article you are basing your " worldwide " market share data on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean the article with the headline "comScore: Apple gained US smartphone market share in December"Which only talks about US market share, is that the article you are basing your "worldwide" market share data on?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144444</id>
	<title>Never Again, Microsoft</title>
	<author>Necron69</author>
	<datestamp>1266251640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, Microsoft, but you guys claim that every release is the best thing since sliced bread. Having just finally gotten rid of my Samsung BlackJack II, with Windows Mobile 6.1, I can say that it was simultaneously the most promising, and most disappointing phone I've ever owned. I won't ever buy another Windows Mobile phone.</p><p>For now, I've got a used Blackberry (even this old one is way better than the Blackjack) while I wait for my AT&amp;T contract to expire, then it is hello, Android.</p><p>Necron69</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , Microsoft , but you guys claim that every release is the best thing since sliced bread .
Having just finally gotten rid of my Samsung BlackJack II , with Windows Mobile 6.1 , I can say that it was simultaneously the most promising , and most disappointing phone I 've ever owned .
I wo n't ever buy another Windows Mobile phone.For now , I 've got a used Blackberry ( even this old one is way better than the Blackjack ) while I wait for my AT&amp;T contract to expire , then it is hello , Android.Necron69</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, Microsoft, but you guys claim that every release is the best thing since sliced bread.
Having just finally gotten rid of my Samsung BlackJack II, with Windows Mobile 6.1, I can say that it was simultaneously the most promising, and most disappointing phone I've ever owned.
I won't ever buy another Windows Mobile phone.For now, I've got a used Blackberry (even this old one is way better than the Blackjack) while I wait for my AT&amp;T contract to expire, then it is hello, Android.Necron69</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31160758</id>
	<title>Re:IPhone World domination?</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1266317340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's interesting how you can slice data and get the results you want. If you compare Apple to Apple, year to year, they look great in 4Q09. But if you compare Apple 3Q09 to Apple 4Q09, Apple actually lost market share (18\% down to 16\%), even though that was their best quarter ever. They did not keep up with the growth of the smartphone market, quarter to quarter.<br><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/02/01/iphone-loses-market-share-in-fourth-quarter/tab/article/" title="wsj.com">http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/02/01/iphone-loses-market-share-in-fourth-quarter/tab/article/</a> [wsj.com]</p><p>That's more interesting than looking year to year, as it reflects the current way Apple is trending. Given their three-something years in the market, one whole year is just too long to spot a trend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's interesting how you can slice data and get the results you want .
If you compare Apple to Apple , year to year , they look great in 4Q09 .
But if you compare Apple 3Q09 to Apple 4Q09 , Apple actually lost market share ( 18 \ % down to 16 \ % ) , even though that was their best quarter ever .
They did not keep up with the growth of the smartphone market , quarter to quarter.http : //blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/02/01/iphone-loses-market-share-in-fourth-quarter/tab/article/ [ wsj.com ] That 's more interesting than looking year to year , as it reflects the current way Apple is trending .
Given their three-something years in the market , one whole year is just too long to spot a trend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's interesting how you can slice data and get the results you want.
If you compare Apple to Apple, year to year, they look great in 4Q09.
But if you compare Apple 3Q09 to Apple 4Q09, Apple actually lost market share (18\% down to 16\%), even though that was their best quarter ever.
They did not keep up with the growth of the smartphone market, quarter to quarter.http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/02/01/iphone-loses-market-share-in-fourth-quarter/tab/article/ [wsj.com]That's more interesting than looking year to year, as it reflects the current way Apple is trending.
Given their three-something years in the market, one whole year is just too long to spot a trend.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31153810</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>minus9</author>
	<datestamp>1266321720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"One reason why the iPhone is such a phenomenal phone is that the user interface permeates everything. Not just the immediate application screen or the app transitions, but at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience."</i> <br> <br>

That sounds like marketing gobbledygook.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" One reason why the iPhone is such a phenomenal phone is that the user interface permeates everything .
Not just the immediate application screen or the app transitions , but at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience .
" That sounds like marketing gobbledygook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"One reason why the iPhone is such a phenomenal phone is that the user interface permeates everything.
Not just the immediate application screen or the app transitions, but at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience.
"  

That sounds like marketing gobbledygook.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144616</id>
	<title>Re:Will it make and receive calls?</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1266252300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which ones?</p><p>I've never had any such problems with my AT&amp;T Tilt or Tilt 2.  OK, maybe not never, I think I've had one crash during a call in 3 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which ones ? I 've never had any such problems with my AT&amp;T Tilt or Tilt 2 .
OK , maybe not never , I think I 've had one crash during a call in 3 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which ones?I've never had any such problems with my AT&amp;T Tilt or Tilt 2.
OK, maybe not never, I think I've had one crash during a call in 3 years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144956</id>
	<title>It wasn't complex enough.</title>
	<author>Futurepower(R)</author>
	<datestamp>1266253620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's only because he left out some words: <i>"... at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience<b> to empower the core business for enterprise synergy and a strong paradigm shift.</b>"</i>

<br> <br>Now, instead of burning, you fell asleep, right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's only because he left out some words : " ... at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience to empower the core business for enterprise synergy and a strong paradigm shift .
" Now , instead of burning , you fell asleep , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's only because he left out some words: "... at a fundamental level there is a symmetry and orthogonality of conceptualization that leads to a seamless user experience to empower the core business for enterprise synergy and a strong paradigm shift.
"

 Now, instead of burning, you fell asleep, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146804</id>
	<title>Re:How deep is the rabbit hole?</title>
	<author>dotgain</author>
	<datestamp>1266263100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The tools suck. MS doesn't have a nice widget set like Apple. You want anything pretty or intuitive that doesn't look like it's straight out of windows 2000 you either have to build it yourself or dish out and pay for a 3rd party kits (which would be fine if the pickings weren't so lean).

I've dabbled with xcode and what's available for the iphone (I have a mac and itouch, just limited time to play), and what's available is a world of difference. Plus they have UI guidelines which I see as a good thing since consistency is a very important part of HCI.</p></div></blockquote><p>
This.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The tools suck .
MS does n't have a nice widget set like Apple .
You want anything pretty or intuitive that does n't look like it 's straight out of windows 2000 you either have to build it yourself or dish out and pay for a 3rd party kits ( which would be fine if the pickings were n't so lean ) .
I 've dabbled with xcode and what 's available for the iphone ( I have a mac and itouch , just limited time to play ) , and what 's available is a world of difference .
Plus they have UI guidelines which I see as a good thing since consistency is a very important part of HCI .
This .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The tools suck.
MS doesn't have a nice widget set like Apple.
You want anything pretty or intuitive that doesn't look like it's straight out of windows 2000 you either have to build it yourself or dish out and pay for a 3rd party kits (which would be fine if the pickings weren't so lean).
I've dabbled with xcode and what's available for the iphone (I have a mac and itouch, just limited time to play), and what's available is a world of difference.
Plus they have UI guidelines which I see as a good thing since consistency is a very important part of HCI.
This.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146610</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, you've got me listening...</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1266262080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No goofy shading and transitions?</p> </div><p>If you look at the linked video, there are no shadings, but there are animated (either 3D flip style, or scrolling) screen transitions.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No goofy shading and transitions ?
If you look at the linked video , there are no shadings , but there are animated ( either 3D flip style , or scrolling ) screen transitions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No goofy shading and transitions?
If you look at the linked video, there are no shadings, but there are animated (either 3D flip style, or scrolling) screen transitions.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31146712</id>
	<title>Re:Will have to wait and see</title>
	<author>jeti</author>
	<datestamp>1266262560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On a screen in portrait orientation, a sideways swipe lets you replace the content with the finger travelling a shorter distance. That being said, the swipe does complement the down-scrolling instead of replacing it. It offers different views of the content instead of exposing more of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On a screen in portrait orientation , a sideways swipe lets you replace the content with the finger travelling a shorter distance .
That being said , the swipe does complement the down-scrolling instead of replacing it .
It offers different views of the content instead of exposing more of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On a screen in portrait orientation, a sideways swipe lets you replace the content with the finger travelling a shorter distance.
That being said, the swipe does complement the down-scrolling instead of replacing it.
It offers different views of the content instead of exposing more of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144684</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Phone 7 Series Video</title>
	<author>Overzeetop</author>
	<datestamp>1266252480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the video looks less enticing than the text description. I'm afraid it's more like Windows Media Center on a phone. I hope it's better in its final incarnation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the video looks less enticing than the text description .
I 'm afraid it 's more like Windows Media Center on a phone .
I hope it 's better in its final incarnation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the video looks less enticing than the text description.
I'm afraid it's more like Windows Media Center on a phone.
I hope it's better in its final incarnation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_1458210.31144228</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not holding my breath</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266250500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just like the iPad, right? Idiot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like the iPad , right ?
Idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like the iPad, right?
Idiot.</sentencetext>
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