<article>
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	<title>It's 2010; What's the Best E-Reader?</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1266145920000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>jacob1984 writes <i>"A few years ago there was a question about which <a href="//ask.slashdot.org/story/07/12/20/1955231/Which-eBook-Reader-is-the-Best">e-reader was the best</a>. Since then, the market has <a href="http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&amp;catalogId=10551&amp;langId=-1&amp;productId=8198552921665921188">been</a> <a href="http://www.theezreader.com/">flooded</a> <a href="http://www.bookeen.com/ebook/ebook-reading-device.aspx">with</a> <a href="http://www.foxitsoftware.com/ebook/">new</a> <a href="http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/">additions</a>, many of them more open than <a href="http://www.amazon.com/kindle-store-ebooks-newspapers-blogs/b/ref=topnav\_storetab\_kinc?ie=UTF8&amp;node=133141011">others</a>. Have you bought one yet? If so, which one did you find best and why?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>jacob1984 writes " A few years ago there was a question about which e-reader was the best .
Since then , the market has been flooded with new additions , many of them more open than others .
Have you bought one yet ?
If so , which one did you find best and why ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>jacob1984 writes "A few years ago there was a question about which e-reader was the best.
Since then, the market has been flooded with new additions, many of them more open than others.
Have you bought one yet?
If so, which one did you find best and why?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140418</id>
	<title>I have a nook and like it...</title>
	<author>laird</author>
	<datestamp>1266166380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>I have a nook, and I like it quite a bit. In particular:<br>- It's very open. Plug it into a computer and drag PDF or ePub files onto it. And MP3 files to listen to, or JPG or PNG image files (for 'wallpaper'). xkcd makes for great b&amp;w 'wallpaper'. This means that you can easily write a script to (for example) pull down the latest news in an RSS feed into an ePub (via feedbooks), and drop it onto the nook. This is much nicer than having to pay Amazon to send files via wireless into the Kindle.<br>- The color, touch display. eInk is great to read, but is so slow that it makes interaction painful. On the nook much of the interaction is on the color touch-screen, so you can tap on a button and see it respond immediately, etc.<br>- it is an android device, so it is easy to write software for it, and to 'hack' it to run such software. So (http://www.nookdevs.com) there are already good RSS reader, web browser, etc.<br>- It has WiFi and 3G data, so you can buy books anywhere, and (with lightweight hacking) read RSS feeds, etc., via WiFi. Apps don't use 3G (that would be costing b&amp;n money, which would not be cool).</p><p>The other interesting development is that there are dozens of generic eReaders coming. Remember how last year digital picture frames popped up everywhere? This year it will be eReaders. Pretty soon, for $150 you will be able to buy eReaders with SD or MicroSD card slots that will play all of the standard formats (ePub, PDF). This may do for eBooks what the iPod did for music, which will be great for people who like reading books, but may not be good for people who sell books. Perhaps authors will start selling direct? These devices are coming from a wide range of companies, all with pretty much the same specs. So it is shaping up to be a large, competitive market. Fun for consumers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a nook , and I like it quite a bit .
In particular : - It 's very open .
Plug it into a computer and drag PDF or ePub files onto it .
And MP3 files to listen to , or JPG or PNG image files ( for 'wallpaper ' ) .
xkcd makes for great b&amp;w 'wallpaper' .
This means that you can easily write a script to ( for example ) pull down the latest news in an RSS feed into an ePub ( via feedbooks ) , and drop it onto the nook .
This is much nicer than having to pay Amazon to send files via wireless into the Kindle.- The color , touch display .
eInk is great to read , but is so slow that it makes interaction painful .
On the nook much of the interaction is on the color touch-screen , so you can tap on a button and see it respond immediately , etc.- it is an android device , so it is easy to write software for it , and to 'hack ' it to run such software .
So ( http : //www.nookdevs.com ) there are already good RSS reader , web browser , etc.- It has WiFi and 3G data , so you can buy books anywhere , and ( with lightweight hacking ) read RSS feeds , etc. , via WiFi .
Apps do n't use 3G ( that would be costing b&amp;n money , which would not be cool ) .The other interesting development is that there are dozens of generic eReaders coming .
Remember how last year digital picture frames popped up everywhere ?
This year it will be eReaders .
Pretty soon , for $ 150 you will be able to buy eReaders with SD or MicroSD card slots that will play all of the standard formats ( ePub , PDF ) .
This may do for eBooks what the iPod did for music , which will be great for people who like reading books , but may not be good for people who sell books .
Perhaps authors will start selling direct ?
These devices are coming from a wide range of companies , all with pretty much the same specs .
So it is shaping up to be a large , competitive market .
Fun for consumers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a nook, and I like it quite a bit.
In particular:- It's very open.
Plug it into a computer and drag PDF or ePub files onto it.
And MP3 files to listen to, or JPG or PNG image files (for 'wallpaper').
xkcd makes for great b&amp;w 'wallpaper'.
This means that you can easily write a script to (for example) pull down the latest news in an RSS feed into an ePub (via feedbooks), and drop it onto the nook.
This is much nicer than having to pay Amazon to send files via wireless into the Kindle.- The color, touch display.
eInk is great to read, but is so slow that it makes interaction painful.
On the nook much of the interaction is on the color touch-screen, so you can tap on a button and see it respond immediately, etc.- it is an android device, so it is easy to write software for it, and to 'hack' it to run such software.
So (http://www.nookdevs.com) there are already good RSS reader, web browser, etc.- It has WiFi and 3G data, so you can buy books anywhere, and (with lightweight hacking) read RSS feeds, etc., via WiFi.
Apps don't use 3G (that would be costing b&amp;n money, which would not be cool).The other interesting development is that there are dozens of generic eReaders coming.
Remember how last year digital picture frames popped up everywhere?
This year it will be eReaders.
Pretty soon, for $150 you will be able to buy eReaders with SD or MicroSD card slots that will play all of the standard formats (ePub, PDF).
This may do for eBooks what the iPod did for music, which will be great for people who like reading books, but may not be good for people who sell books.
Perhaps authors will start selling direct?
These devices are coming from a wide range of companies, all with pretty much the same specs.
So it is shaping up to be a large, competitive market.
Fun for consumers!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143632</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Asic Eng</author>
	<datestamp>1266247500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>You carry one book with you, or if you're going on a trip, you carry a few.</i> <p>
That's true, but over the years I've acquired many many books, a few of them I'd like to read again, or just browse and look something up on occasion. They take up a lot of space in my apartment, and that's really inconvenient. Also I order a lot of books from abroad, it would be convenient to do that online and save shipping costs, too.
</p><p>
I don't actually use a book reader because of the DRM problems, but I'd like to otherwise. Paper books do have significant disadvantages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You carry one book with you , or if you 're going on a trip , you carry a few .
That 's true , but over the years I 've acquired many many books , a few of them I 'd like to read again , or just browse and look something up on occasion .
They take up a lot of space in my apartment , and that 's really inconvenient .
Also I order a lot of books from abroad , it would be convenient to do that online and save shipping costs , too .
I do n't actually use a book reader because of the DRM problems , but I 'd like to otherwise .
Paper books do have significant disadvantages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You carry one book with you, or if you're going on a trip, you carry a few.
That's true, but over the years I've acquired many many books, a few of them I'd like to read again, or just browse and look something up on occasion.
They take up a lot of space in my apartment, and that's really inconvenient.
Also I order a lot of books from abroad, it would be convenient to do that online and save shipping costs, too.
I don't actually use a book reader because of the DRM problems, but I'd like to otherwise.
Paper books do have significant disadvantages.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139524</id>
	<title>Best for what use, exactly?</title>
	<author>kroyd</author>
	<datestamp>1266158700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've got three possible platforms for "electronic reading":
<ul>
<li> A first generation Sony Librie (bought used in Tokyo)</li>
<li> An iPod Touch with Stanza</li>
<li> Various portable and not-so portable computers</li>
</ul><p>
Depending on what I do all three can be said to be the "best device". If I'm reading technical documentation, such as a PDF manual a computer screen with easy access to search and online services is clearly the best choice. Reading fiction outdoors when the sun is shining the Sony would be best. On the subway or on the bus the iPod is easily portable and lets me block out inane chatter.
</p><p>
No device is currently the best one for all possible uses, and there might be a while before a single "best solution" will be available. (Some kind of A4 foldable organic led display, with a touch screen and really fast searching would do.) In the mean time I plan to buy an Android phone with 800x480 resolution (or more) for reading fiction. I would consider buying a <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5471559/notion-ink-adam-tablet-caught-on-video-specs-finalized" title="gizmodo.com">Notion Ink Adam</a> [gizmodo.com]  though, but it wouldn't be quite as portable.
</p><p>
The software side is of course really important - On the server / computer side I use Calibre (http://calibre-ebook.com) for converting content, pulling text from websites. You can also use it as a "content server", which is really neat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got three possible platforms for " electronic reading " : A first generation Sony Librie ( bought used in Tokyo ) An iPod Touch with Stanza Various portable and not-so portable computers Depending on what I do all three can be said to be the " best device " .
If I 'm reading technical documentation , such as a PDF manual a computer screen with easy access to search and online services is clearly the best choice .
Reading fiction outdoors when the sun is shining the Sony would be best .
On the subway or on the bus the iPod is easily portable and lets me block out inane chatter .
No device is currently the best one for all possible uses , and there might be a while before a single " best solution " will be available .
( Some kind of A4 foldable organic led display , with a touch screen and really fast searching would do .
) In the mean time I plan to buy an Android phone with 800x480 resolution ( or more ) for reading fiction .
I would consider buying a Notion Ink Adam [ gizmodo.com ] though , but it would n't be quite as portable .
The software side is of course really important - On the server / computer side I use Calibre ( http : //calibre-ebook.com ) for converting content , pulling text from websites .
You can also use it as a " content server " , which is really neat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got three possible platforms for "electronic reading":

 A first generation Sony Librie (bought used in Tokyo)
 An iPod Touch with Stanza
 Various portable and not-so portable computers

Depending on what I do all three can be said to be the "best device".
If I'm reading technical documentation, such as a PDF manual a computer screen with easy access to search and online services is clearly the best choice.
Reading fiction outdoors when the sun is shining the Sony would be best.
On the subway or on the bus the iPod is easily portable and lets me block out inane chatter.
No device is currently the best one for all possible uses, and there might be a while before a single "best solution" will be available.
(Some kind of A4 foldable organic led display, with a touch screen and really fast searching would do.
) In the mean time I plan to buy an Android phone with 800x480 resolution (or more) for reading fiction.
I would consider buying a Notion Ink Adam [gizmodo.com]  though, but it wouldn't be quite as portable.
The software side is of course really important - On the server / computer side I use Calibre (http://calibre-ebook.com) for converting content, pulling text from websites.
You can also use it as a "content server", which is really neat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31150492</id>
	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1266238320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Editing, typesetting, formatting, proofing, marketing, artwork, etc all still needs to be done.</p></div><p>many many books are just words and the "typesetting" is just fitting the words onto a page and is done by simple inexpensive software that can run on a PC. these same books have no artwork.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>an e-marketplace (a bunch of servers, software and bandwidth (not free))</p></div><p>not free, but much cheaper than physically stocking the book onto shelves or warehouses and physically transporting the book to stores / consumers.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>the cost difference is not the huge amount that people seem to think it is</p></div><p>yes, but is it more than, say, $0? publishers seem to want to charge us the same, if not more, for digital books.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Editing , typesetting , formatting , proofing , marketing , artwork , etc all still needs to be done.many many books are just words and the " typesetting " is just fitting the words onto a page and is done by simple inexpensive software that can run on a PC .
these same books have no artwork.an e-marketplace ( a bunch of servers , software and bandwidth ( not free ) ) not free , but much cheaper than physically stocking the book onto shelves or warehouses and physically transporting the book to stores / consumers.the cost difference is not the huge amount that people seem to think it isyes , but is it more than , say , $ 0 ?
publishers seem to want to charge us the same , if not more , for digital books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Editing, typesetting, formatting, proofing, marketing, artwork, etc all still needs to be done.many many books are just words and the "typesetting" is just fitting the words onto a page and is done by simple inexpensive software that can run on a PC.
these same books have no artwork.an e-marketplace (a bunch of servers, software and bandwidth (not free))not free, but much cheaper than physically stocking the book onto shelves or warehouses and physically transporting the book to stores / consumers.the cost difference is not the huge amount that people seem to think it isyes, but is it more than, say, $0?
publishers seem to want to charge us the same, if not more, for digital books.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31144308</id>
	<title>Kindle DX</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266251040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>  I'm not trolling, as I'm not actually suggesting this is the best eBook reader on the market.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I own one, and the "keyboard" on it is terrible.  I wish they had simply not included it.  The worst crime with regards to the keyboard can probably be solved with a software update; when using the "goto page" features, you have to press shift before each key.  The numbers on the keyboard are shifted versions of the letters, but you would think that in context of a "goto" menu, it would automatically do that.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I bought the DX because of it's larger screen.  AFAIK (and i haven't looked in 8 months), it's the only eBook reader with an 8" screen.  For reading PDFs (why i bought it), there is simply no other option.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; For the purpose of reading PDFs it's an excellent tool.  For anything else, i don't recommend it.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Still, as soon as http://openinkpot.org/ supports the Kindle, i will be rooting mine with joy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not trolling , as I 'm not actually suggesting this is the best eBook reader on the market .
    I own one , and the " keyboard " on it is terrible .
I wish they had simply not included it .
The worst crime with regards to the keyboard can probably be solved with a software update ; when using the " goto page " features , you have to press shift before each key .
The numbers on the keyboard are shifted versions of the letters , but you would think that in context of a " goto " menu , it would automatically do that .
    I bought the DX because of it 's larger screen .
AFAIK ( and i have n't looked in 8 months ) , it 's the only eBook reader with an 8 " screen .
For reading PDFs ( why i bought it ) , there is simply no other option .
    For the purpose of reading PDFs it 's an excellent tool .
For anything else , i do n't recommend it .
    Still , as soon as http : //openinkpot.org/ supports the Kindle , i will be rooting mine with joy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  I'm not trolling, as I'm not actually suggesting this is the best eBook reader on the market.
    I own one, and the "keyboard" on it is terrible.
I wish they had simply not included it.
The worst crime with regards to the keyboard can probably be solved with a software update; when using the "goto page" features, you have to press shift before each key.
The numbers on the keyboard are shifted versions of the letters, but you would think that in context of a "goto" menu, it would automatically do that.
    I bought the DX because of it's larger screen.
AFAIK (and i haven't looked in 8 months), it's the only eBook reader with an 8" screen.
For reading PDFs (why i bought it), there is simply no other option.
    For the purpose of reading PDFs it's an excellent tool.
For anything else, i don't recommend it.
    Still, as soon as http://openinkpot.org/ supports the Kindle, i will be rooting mine with joy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139510</id>
	<title>Re:The one with DJVU support</title>
	<author>peragrin</author>
	<datestamp>1266158640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>exactly.  i am staying away until all books have one or two DRM formats so that i can change readers over time.</p><p>I am not buying the same book three times because my reader died, and the new model doesn't support the old format.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>exactly .
i am staying away until all books have one or two DRM formats so that i can change readers over time.I am not buying the same book three times because my reader died , and the new model does n't support the old format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>exactly.
i am staying away until all books have one or two DRM formats so that i can change readers over time.I am not buying the same book three times because my reader died, and the new model doesn't support the old format.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138488</id>
	<title>Que</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266151800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.que.com/" title="que.com" rel="nofollow">Plastic Logic's Que</a> [que.com]. Screen the size of a sheet of paper = I can actually have all the design and datasheet PDFs I want with me, anywhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Plastic Logic 's Que [ que.com ] .
Screen the size of a sheet of paper = I can actually have all the design and datasheet PDFs I want with me , anywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plastic Logic's Que [que.com].
Screen the size of a sheet of paper = I can actually have all the design and datasheet PDFs I want with me, anywhere.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138382</id>
	<title>The one with DJVU support</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266151140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most seem to try and sell subscriptions and whatnot, which is easy to see with the extra connectivity and mobile plans and I dunno what else. Thing is, I need access to information, not to be turned into a revenue stream in return for some token carrot. So, I need something with a good screen, open format support (and `EPUB' is <b>not</b> the be-all end-all, TYVM xml lovers), and, well, maybe open enough that I can hack new formats and a better UI into it. Also high on the wishlist are ease of feeding, like by taking AA batteries (the `wikipedia in your pocket' thing takes AAAs, which is close but not quite there), and ease of interop with my other devices. Maybe bluetooth, but a memory card slot of sorts is probably simpler; it allows for easily swapping out libraries of books. Bookmark systems, annotation systems, you name it.</p><p>The thing is, the current crop is desperately looking for a `sales channel' model. That doesn't help me get stuff done. Until then, I'll wait for the price to drop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most seem to try and sell subscriptions and whatnot , which is easy to see with the extra connectivity and mobile plans and I dunno what else .
Thing is , I need access to information , not to be turned into a revenue stream in return for some token carrot .
So , I need something with a good screen , open format support ( and ` EPUB ' is not the be-all end-all , TYVM xml lovers ) , and , well , maybe open enough that I can hack new formats and a better UI into it .
Also high on the wishlist are ease of feeding , like by taking AA batteries ( the ` wikipedia in your pocket ' thing takes AAAs , which is close but not quite there ) , and ease of interop with my other devices .
Maybe bluetooth , but a memory card slot of sorts is probably simpler ; it allows for easily swapping out libraries of books .
Bookmark systems , annotation systems , you name it.The thing is , the current crop is desperately looking for a ` sales channel ' model .
That does n't help me get stuff done .
Until then , I 'll wait for the price to drop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most seem to try and sell subscriptions and whatnot, which is easy to see with the extra connectivity and mobile plans and I dunno what else.
Thing is, I need access to information, not to be turned into a revenue stream in return for some token carrot.
So, I need something with a good screen, open format support (and `EPUB' is not the be-all end-all, TYVM xml lovers), and, well, maybe open enough that I can hack new formats and a better UI into it.
Also high on the wishlist are ease of feeding, like by taking AA batteries (the `wikipedia in your pocket' thing takes AAAs, which is close but not quite there), and ease of interop with my other devices.
Maybe bluetooth, but a memory card slot of sorts is probably simpler; it allows for easily swapping out libraries of books.
Bookmark systems, annotation systems, you name it.The thing is, the current crop is desperately looking for a `sales channel' model.
That doesn't help me get stuff done.
Until then, I'll wait for the price to drop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140438</id>
	<title>axim x50v</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266166620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like my toshiba axim x50v.  Paid around $80 on ebay about 4-6 months ago.  Received it in perfect condition.  I wouldn't mind having a larger screen but I've read and enjoyed a number of books on my pda.  I've got a pair of 1gig sd cards which are more than adequate for plenty of books.  I wouldn't suggest trying to read pdfs though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like my toshiba axim x50v .
Paid around $ 80 on ebay about 4-6 months ago .
Received it in perfect condition .
I would n't mind having a larger screen but I 've read and enjoyed a number of books on my pda .
I 've got a pair of 1gig sd cards which are more than adequate for plenty of books .
I would n't suggest trying to read pdfs though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like my toshiba axim x50v.
Paid around $80 on ebay about 4-6 months ago.
Received it in perfect condition.
I wouldn't mind having a larger screen but I've read and enjoyed a number of books on my pda.
I've got a pair of 1gig sd cards which are more than adequate for plenty of books.
I wouldn't suggest trying to read pdfs though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139070</id>
	<title>Re:Define "best"</title>
	<author>WuphonsReach</author>
	<datestamp>1266155700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll feed the troll. I can tell right off the bat that you've never used one for more then a few hours.  And that you have no idea what the market for book readers is like.<br>
<br>
The joy of a dedicated eReader (like the Sony PRS-505) is that it does that one thing well.  Multi-tasking is not always a plus.  The current crop of e-ink based devices are excellent for leisure or other cover-to-cover reading where the refresh time of the screen really doesn't matter.  That's it, that's all they're supposed to do.  And frankly, they do it quite smashingly.<br>
<br>
Cost is an issue still, but there are now devices available for under $200 (my price point was under $300, which is why I picked up the PRS-505 two years ago).  The price of books... is stupidity on the part of the publishers.  But there are hundreds of good books from Project Gutenberg, or the inexpensive and no-DRM books over at Baen.  If you don't like the costs, then you're not the target demographic.<br>
<br>
The portability of the current readers is just fine, about equivalent to a large format paperback, with the bonus that I can carry a few dozen books in about 1/3 the space and weight of a single large format paperback.<br>
<br>
Battery life is a non-issue.  The Sony's only require charging every few weeks, even for a voracious reader.  Which means that on any given night, when I pickup my reader to do a spot of reading, the device is always ready.  And when I finish for the night, if it's finally (after 2-3 weeks) dropped below 25\% battery, I'll toss it on the charger overnight.<br>
<br>
Clarity of the display of e-ink devices is excellent.  Unless you're trying to read by candlelight, in which case most mass-market paperbacks are going to be equally difficult to read.  More DPI would always be nice, but it's already up around 175dpi.<br>
<br>
As for book storage - I have (5) 2 meter tall, ~1 meter wide book bookshelves filled with dead-tree books.  It's a pain to deal with that quantity of paper if you move more then once a century.  With the electronic versions, I can backup my entire library on a few CDs/DVDs.  Which means I could toss a copy in the bank, at a friend's house, or email myself a copy at different webmail accounts.  Which goes back to the portability argument.<br>
<br>
In short, eReaders do an excellent job of their assigned task.  Which is to present text on the screen and let me get into the book.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll feed the troll .
I can tell right off the bat that you 've never used one for more then a few hours .
And that you have no idea what the market for book readers is like .
The joy of a dedicated eReader ( like the Sony PRS-505 ) is that it does that one thing well .
Multi-tasking is not always a plus .
The current crop of e-ink based devices are excellent for leisure or other cover-to-cover reading where the refresh time of the screen really does n't matter .
That 's it , that 's all they 're supposed to do .
And frankly , they do it quite smashingly .
Cost is an issue still , but there are now devices available for under $ 200 ( my price point was under $ 300 , which is why I picked up the PRS-505 two years ago ) .
The price of books... is stupidity on the part of the publishers .
But there are hundreds of good books from Project Gutenberg , or the inexpensive and no-DRM books over at Baen .
If you do n't like the costs , then you 're not the target demographic .
The portability of the current readers is just fine , about equivalent to a large format paperback , with the bonus that I can carry a few dozen books in about 1/3 the space and weight of a single large format paperback .
Battery life is a non-issue .
The Sony 's only require charging every few weeks , even for a voracious reader .
Which means that on any given night , when I pickup my reader to do a spot of reading , the device is always ready .
And when I finish for the night , if it 's finally ( after 2-3 weeks ) dropped below 25 \ % battery , I 'll toss it on the charger overnight .
Clarity of the display of e-ink devices is excellent .
Unless you 're trying to read by candlelight , in which case most mass-market paperbacks are going to be equally difficult to read .
More DPI would always be nice , but it 's already up around 175dpi .
As for book storage - I have ( 5 ) 2 meter tall , ~ 1 meter wide book bookshelves filled with dead-tree books .
It 's a pain to deal with that quantity of paper if you move more then once a century .
With the electronic versions , I can backup my entire library on a few CDs/DVDs .
Which means I could toss a copy in the bank , at a friend 's house , or email myself a copy at different webmail accounts .
Which goes back to the portability argument .
In short , eReaders do an excellent job of their assigned task .
Which is to present text on the screen and let me get into the book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll feed the troll.
I can tell right off the bat that you've never used one for more then a few hours.
And that you have no idea what the market for book readers is like.
The joy of a dedicated eReader (like the Sony PRS-505) is that it does that one thing well.
Multi-tasking is not always a plus.
The current crop of e-ink based devices are excellent for leisure or other cover-to-cover reading where the refresh time of the screen really doesn't matter.
That's it, that's all they're supposed to do.
And frankly, they do it quite smashingly.
Cost is an issue still, but there are now devices available for under $200 (my price point was under $300, which is why I picked up the PRS-505 two years ago).
The price of books... is stupidity on the part of the publishers.
But there are hundreds of good books from Project Gutenberg, or the inexpensive and no-DRM books over at Baen.
If you don't like the costs, then you're not the target demographic.
The portability of the current readers is just fine, about equivalent to a large format paperback, with the bonus that I can carry a few dozen books in about 1/3 the space and weight of a single large format paperback.
Battery life is a non-issue.
The Sony's only require charging every few weeks, even for a voracious reader.
Which means that on any given night, when I pickup my reader to do a spot of reading, the device is always ready.
And when I finish for the night, if it's finally (after 2-3 weeks) dropped below 25\% battery, I'll toss it on the charger overnight.
Clarity of the display of e-ink devices is excellent.
Unless you're trying to read by candlelight, in which case most mass-market paperbacks are going to be equally difficult to read.
More DPI would always be nice, but it's already up around 175dpi.
As for book storage - I have (5) 2 meter tall, ~1 meter wide book bookshelves filled with dead-tree books.
It's a pain to deal with that quantity of paper if you move more then once a century.
With the electronic versions, I can backup my entire library on a few CDs/DVDs.
Which means I could toss a copy in the bank, at a friend's house, or email myself a copy at different webmail accounts.
Which goes back to the portability argument.
In short, eReaders do an excellent job of their assigned task.
Which is to present text on the screen and let me get into the book.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138506</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>rossdee</author>
	<datestamp>1266151920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use a desktop, it has a 28 inch screen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use a desktop , it has a 28 inch screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use a desktop, it has a 28 inch screen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140390</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266166140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But I like physical books because they are physical things. Don't have anything against e-books, I've used my laptop to read a few and would love to pick up something better once the winner of the whole "omg tabletsssss!!" war is decided.</p><p>But at the same time any book I really like, I'm buying it in hardcover at least. I've got a very nice hardcover copy of The Hobbit with illustrations from Alan Lee, and will one day probably get a leather bound edition. I also just purchased an entirely new set of Harry Potter books in hardcover. So, for and because of, people like me there will always be a market for physical books.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But I like physical books because they are physical things .
Do n't have anything against e-books , I 've used my laptop to read a few and would love to pick up something better once the winner of the whole " omg tabletsssss ! !
" war is decided.But at the same time any book I really like , I 'm buying it in hardcover at least .
I 've got a very nice hardcover copy of The Hobbit with illustrations from Alan Lee , and will one day probably get a leather bound edition .
I also just purchased an entirely new set of Harry Potter books in hardcover .
So , for and because of , people like me there will always be a market for physical books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I like physical books because they are physical things.
Don't have anything against e-books, I've used my laptop to read a few and would love to pick up something better once the winner of the whole "omg tabletsssss!!
" war is decided.But at the same time any book I really like, I'm buying it in hardcover at least.
I've got a very nice hardcover copy of The Hobbit with illustrations from Alan Lee, and will one day probably get a leather bound edition.
I also just purchased an entirely new set of Harry Potter books in hardcover.
So, for and because of, people like me there will always be a market for physical books.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140250</id>
	<title>Ordinary laptop</title>
	<author>eaman</author>
	<datestamp>1266164700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry but right now the winner is the old laptop: bigger screen with color, movies, even a keyboard.<br>Some of the new ones are very cheap, light and with some ~10 hours of autonomy, totally silent.</p><p>They are not good in direct sunlight, but you can use them to surf the web, you tube, and write your things on social networks and anything else. A device with a black and white 6 inch screen that refuse to read an ordinary PDF or html file for ~400$ is just a joke: paper books are going to be better as long as ebooks don't come with color, movies, web navigation.</p><p>Just give me a light laptop with an hybrid screen please, so I can read / work outside.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry but right now the winner is the old laptop : bigger screen with color , movies , even a keyboard.Some of the new ones are very cheap , light and with some ~ 10 hours of autonomy , totally silent.They are not good in direct sunlight , but you can use them to surf the web , you tube , and write your things on social networks and anything else .
A device with a black and white 6 inch screen that refuse to read an ordinary PDF or html file for ~ 400 $ is just a joke : paper books are going to be better as long as ebooks do n't come with color , movies , web navigation.Just give me a light laptop with an hybrid screen please , so I can read / work outside .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry but right now the winner is the old laptop: bigger screen with color, movies, even a keyboard.Some of the new ones are very cheap, light and with some ~10 hours of autonomy, totally silent.They are not good in direct sunlight, but you can use them to surf the web, you tube, and write your things on social networks and anything else.
A device with a black and white 6 inch screen that refuse to read an ordinary PDF or html file for ~400$ is just a joke: paper books are going to be better as long as ebooks don't come with color, movies, web navigation.Just give me a light laptop with an hybrid screen please, so I can read / work outside.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140448</id>
	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>Low Ranked Craig</author>
	<datestamp>1266166680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>eBooks should cost far, far less than print books, not merely because their marginal cost of production is tiny, but because they deliver far less value than a print book</p></div><p>Not at all true. almost everything that has to be done to produce a print book needs to be done to produce an e-book.</p><p>Editing, typesetting, formatting, proofing, marketing, artwork, etc all still needs to be done.  Only the distribution is different.  In one case you're printing a book (an automated manufacturing process) or you're publishing a book to an e-marketplace (a bunch of servers, software and bandwidth (not free)).  The reality is that the great majority of the cost in producing a book is labor, and it's all still required, regardless of print or electronic distribution, so while printed materials may cost more to produce, the cost difference is not the huge amount that people seem to think it is.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>eBooks should cost far , far less than print books , not merely because their marginal cost of production is tiny , but because they deliver far less value than a print bookNot at all true .
almost everything that has to be done to produce a print book needs to be done to produce an e-book.Editing , typesetting , formatting , proofing , marketing , artwork , etc all still needs to be done .
Only the distribution is different .
In one case you 're printing a book ( an automated manufacturing process ) or you 're publishing a book to an e-marketplace ( a bunch of servers , software and bandwidth ( not free ) ) .
The reality is that the great majority of the cost in producing a book is labor , and it 's all still required , regardless of print or electronic distribution , so while printed materials may cost more to produce , the cost difference is not the huge amount that people seem to think it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eBooks should cost far, far less than print books, not merely because their marginal cost of production is tiny, but because they deliver far less value than a print bookNot at all true.
almost everything that has to be done to produce a print book needs to be done to produce an e-book.Editing, typesetting, formatting, proofing, marketing, artwork, etc all still needs to be done.
Only the distribution is different.
In one case you're printing a book (an automated manufacturing process) or you're publishing a book to an e-marketplace (a bunch of servers, software and bandwidth (not free)).
The reality is that the great majority of the cost in producing a book is labor, and it's all still required, regardless of print or electronic distribution, so while printed materials may cost more to produce, the cost difference is not the huge amount that people seem to think it is.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138498</id>
	<title>dead trees</title>
	<author>Gothmolly</author>
	<datestamp>1266151860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the price of an "ebook" that goes bye-bye when my Kindle, iPad or other device dies, gets its firmware updated or broken, I can get the real, dead-tree version of the book.  If I have room in my luggage for an "e-reader", then I can bring the actual book.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the price of an " ebook " that goes bye-bye when my Kindle , iPad or other device dies , gets its firmware updated or broken , I can get the real , dead-tree version of the book .
If I have room in my luggage for an " e-reader " , then I can bring the actual book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the price of an "ebook" that goes bye-bye when my Kindle, iPad or other device dies, gets its firmware updated or broken, I can get the real, dead-tree version of the book.
If I have room in my luggage for an "e-reader", then I can bring the actual book.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143332</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>NeoSkandranon</author>
	<datestamp>1266245160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The real telling figure is mass per byte of data.</p><p>Moved any boxes of books lately? Ugh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real telling figure is mass per byte of data.Moved any boxes of books lately ?
Ugh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real telling figure is mass per byte of data.Moved any boxes of books lately?
Ugh.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140514</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle</title>
	<author>Draek</author>
	<datestamp>1266167100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interpreting TeX would be an extremely useful ability to anyone studying/working in Mathematics. While there's a few Engineering departments out there that have switched to Office in recent times for reasons we cannot begin to comprehend, I've yet to hear of a single Math department that uses anything else.</p><p>Ohh, and as far as "typical consumers" go, the Kindle is pretty bad as well: half its features work only within the United States which, as you may be aware, holds a relatively small portion of the world's "typical consumers".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interpreting TeX would be an extremely useful ability to anyone studying/working in Mathematics .
While there 's a few Engineering departments out there that have switched to Office in recent times for reasons we can not begin to comprehend , I 've yet to hear of a single Math department that uses anything else.Ohh , and as far as " typical consumers " go , the Kindle is pretty bad as well : half its features work only within the United States which , as you may be aware , holds a relatively small portion of the world 's " typical consumers " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interpreting TeX would be an extremely useful ability to anyone studying/working in Mathematics.
While there's a few Engineering departments out there that have switched to Office in recent times for reasons we cannot begin to comprehend, I've yet to hear of a single Math department that uses anything else.Ohh, and as far as "typical consumers" go, the Kindle is pretty bad as well: half its features work only within the United States which, as you may be aware, holds a relatively small portion of the world's "typical consumers".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31158384</id>
	<title>Chess books</title>
	<author>mmontalvo</author>
	<datestamp>1266349860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am currently converting my chess books into pdfs so that I can travel. I am very wary of all the current ereaders because I do not know if they will be able to:
 1.) handle large pdfs
 2.) have enough resolution to be able to display diagrams so that they can be read
 3.) take notes and be able to fully save the info

Yeah this probably does not matter to 99\% of the people, but why spend 4-700 bucks on something that does not necessarily fill all the needs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am currently converting my chess books into pdfs so that I can travel .
I am very wary of all the current ereaders because I do not know if they will be able to : 1 .
) handle large pdfs 2 .
) have enough resolution to be able to display diagrams so that they can be read 3 .
) take notes and be able to fully save the info Yeah this probably does not matter to 99 \ % of the people , but why spend 4-700 bucks on something that does not necessarily fill all the needs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am currently converting my chess books into pdfs so that I can travel.
I am very wary of all the current ereaders because I do not know if they will be able to:
 1.
) handle large pdfs
 2.
) have enough resolution to be able to display diagrams so that they can be read
 3.
) take notes and be able to fully save the info

Yeah this probably does not matter to 99\% of the people, but why spend 4-700 bucks on something that does not necessarily fill all the needs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138954</id>
	<title>Android Devices</title>
	<author>bled</author>
	<datestamp>1266154800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have already been waiting for years to see a good eBook reader, but I'm still not satisfied with the dedicated readers on the market (especially the prices...).
So a few weeks ago I discovered that my Samsung Galaxy i7500 is one really awesome eBook reader (and it's even cheaper than a Kindle!). I have installed <a href="http://www.aldiko.com/" title="aldiko.com" rel="nofollow">Aldiko</a> [aldiko.com] on it and use it to read free books (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little\_Brother\_(Cory\_Doctorow\_novel)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Little Brother</a> [wikipedia.org], all the Sherlock Holmes novels, etc.).
It's so much more appropriate for reading eBooks than one would imagine. A lot better than any paper book.
However, I also have to note that this method of eBook reading is not suitable for annotations or the like. Battery life is another concern, of course. But it's really just perfect if you want to read a novel in bed or on a train or wherever you would usually read a paper book.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have already been waiting for years to see a good eBook reader , but I 'm still not satisfied with the dedicated readers on the market ( especially the prices... ) .
So a few weeks ago I discovered that my Samsung Galaxy i7500 is one really awesome eBook reader ( and it 's even cheaper than a Kindle ! ) .
I have installed Aldiko [ aldiko.com ] on it and use it to read free books ( Little Brother [ wikipedia.org ] , all the Sherlock Holmes novels , etc. ) .
It 's so much more appropriate for reading eBooks than one would imagine .
A lot better than any paper book .
However , I also have to note that this method of eBook reading is not suitable for annotations or the like .
Battery life is another concern , of course .
But it 's really just perfect if you want to read a novel in bed or on a train or wherever you would usually read a paper book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have already been waiting for years to see a good eBook reader, but I'm still not satisfied with the dedicated readers on the market (especially the prices...).
So a few weeks ago I discovered that my Samsung Galaxy i7500 is one really awesome eBook reader (and it's even cheaper than a Kindle!).
I have installed Aldiko [aldiko.com] on it and use it to read free books (Little Brother [wikipedia.org], all the Sherlock Holmes novels, etc.).
It's so much more appropriate for reading eBooks than one would imagine.
A lot better than any paper book.
However, I also have to note that this method of eBook reading is not suitable for annotations or the like.
Battery life is another concern, of course.
But it's really just perfect if you want to read a novel in bed or on a train or wherever you would usually read a paper book.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31157006</id>
	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>Just Some Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1266344880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Editing, <b>typesetting, formatting</b>, proofing, marketing, artwork, etc all still needs to be done.</p></div><p>Those are non-zero costs on ebooks?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Editing , typesetting , formatting , proofing , marketing , artwork , etc all still needs to be done.Those are non-zero costs on ebooks ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Editing, typesetting, formatting, proofing, marketing, artwork, etc all still needs to be done.Those are non-zero costs on ebooks?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139206</id>
	<title>Re:The Sony</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1266156660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I must add - pick the one <em>without</em> touchscreen. It's not particularly useful for reading fiction books, anyway (and reading tech books on those things isn't very convenient), and it darkens the screen. Readers without touchscreen have noticeably better contrast, which means less eye strain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I must add - pick the one without touchscreen .
It 's not particularly useful for reading fiction books , anyway ( and reading tech books on those things is n't very convenient ) , and it darkens the screen .
Readers without touchscreen have noticeably better contrast , which means less eye strain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I must add - pick the one without touchscreen.
It's not particularly useful for reading fiction books, anyway (and reading tech books on those things isn't very convenient), and it darkens the screen.
Readers without touchscreen have noticeably better contrast, which means less eye strain.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139388</id>
	<title>Notion Ink Adam</title>
	<author>linuxguy</author>
	<datestamp>1266157920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It won't be out until June.  However the specs are amazing and might be worth waiting for.</p><p><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5471559/notion-ink-adam-tablet-caught-on-video-specs-finalized" title="gizmodo.com">http://gizmodo.com/5471559/notion-ink-adam-tablet-caught-on-video-specs-finalized</a> [gizmodo.com]</p><p>160 hours of battery life.  Screen can be switched to B&amp;W mode.  HDMI out for 1080p video playback.  Open source friendly.  etc. etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It wo n't be out until June .
However the specs are amazing and might be worth waiting for.http : //gizmodo.com/5471559/notion-ink-adam-tablet-caught-on-video-specs-finalized [ gizmodo.com ] 160 hours of battery life .
Screen can be switched to B&amp;W mode .
HDMI out for 1080p video playback .
Open source friendly .
etc. etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It won't be out until June.
However the specs are amazing and might be worth waiting for.http://gizmodo.com/5471559/notion-ink-adam-tablet-caught-on-video-specs-finalized [gizmodo.com]160 hours of battery life.
Screen can be switched to B&amp;W mode.
HDMI out for 1080p video playback.
Open source friendly.
etc. etc.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138782</id>
	<title>Kindle DX</title>
	<author>c4t3y3</author>
	<datestamp>1266153900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why:
<ul>
<li> <b>Less eyestrain</b>. Because it reflects light instead emitting it, the contrast between screen and the environment is always well adjusted. Not enough light and you will be forced to adjust the lights of your room. With a LCD, you may even read in the dark, but your eyes will complain later.</li><li> <b>It's lightweight</b>. 3Gb in 0.5Kg, and even more books on your computer. Tired of increasing your object counter? buy an e-reader.</li><li> <b>It reads PDF</b>. The good: rendering is perfect. The bad: lightweight fonts (like Birka, used on most O'Reilly books) lack contrast. You can still read it displaying half the page in landscape. </li><li> <b>It reads mobi</b> and other open formats.</li><li> <b>Amazon Store</b>. If you are bored just download the 1st chapter of a dozen books. If you like them, you can buy in seconds.</li><li> <b>It works</b>. I won't stop using my Kindle no matter what because it really is a book, just not one made of paper.</li>
<li> <b>Battery</b>. e-ink only needs energy to change the page, not to keep it visible. I charge my Kindle once per month.</li><li> <b>Big screen</b>. It's able to show a whole PDF page without scroll. That's a big a plus for me. Hard to find on other e-readers.</li></ul><p>
Why not:
</p><ul>
<li> <b>e-ink is just for books</b>. It sucks for everything else, like magazines, browsing the web, games, or whatever.</li><li> <b>You can get an iPad for the same price</b>. An iPad has a real browser, games, apps, music, a 10 hour battery, and enough power to read PDFs and do who knows what once jailbreaked.</li><li> <b>AZW = mobi + DRM</b>. You can unprotect them with the unswindle hack, but it's a hassle. Needing authorization from Amazon (or whoever) to access your freaking books is so 1984-ish! </li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why : Less eyestrain .
Because it reflects light instead emitting it , the contrast between screen and the environment is always well adjusted .
Not enough light and you will be forced to adjust the lights of your room .
With a LCD , you may even read in the dark , but your eyes will complain later .
It 's lightweight .
3Gb in 0.5Kg , and even more books on your computer .
Tired of increasing your object counter ?
buy an e-reader .
It reads PDF .
The good : rendering is perfect .
The bad : lightweight fonts ( like Birka , used on most O'Reilly books ) lack contrast .
You can still read it displaying half the page in landscape .
It reads mobi and other open formats .
Amazon Store .
If you are bored just download the 1st chapter of a dozen books .
If you like them , you can buy in seconds .
It works .
I wo n't stop using my Kindle no matter what because it really is a book , just not one made of paper .
Battery. e-ink only needs energy to change the page , not to keep it visible .
I charge my Kindle once per month .
Big screen .
It 's able to show a whole PDF page without scroll .
That 's a big a plus for me .
Hard to find on other e-readers .
Why not : e-ink is just for books .
It sucks for everything else , like magazines , browsing the web , games , or whatever .
You can get an iPad for the same price .
An iPad has a real browser , games , apps , music , a 10 hour battery , and enough power to read PDFs and do who knows what once jailbreaked .
AZW = mobi + DRM .
You can unprotect them with the unswindle hack , but it 's a hassle .
Needing authorization from Amazon ( or whoever ) to access your freaking books is so 1984-ish !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why:

 Less eyestrain.
Because it reflects light instead emitting it, the contrast between screen and the environment is always well adjusted.
Not enough light and you will be forced to adjust the lights of your room.
With a LCD, you may even read in the dark, but your eyes will complain later.
It's lightweight.
3Gb in 0.5Kg, and even more books on your computer.
Tired of increasing your object counter?
buy an e-reader.
It reads PDF.
The good: rendering is perfect.
The bad: lightweight fonts (like Birka, used on most O'Reilly books) lack contrast.
You can still read it displaying half the page in landscape.
It reads mobi and other open formats.
Amazon Store.
If you are bored just download the 1st chapter of a dozen books.
If you like them, you can buy in seconds.
It works.
I won't stop using my Kindle no matter what because it really is a book, just not one made of paper.
Battery. e-ink only needs energy to change the page, not to keep it visible.
I charge my Kindle once per month.
Big screen.
It's able to show a whole PDF page without scroll.
That's a big a plus for me.
Hard to find on other e-readers.
Why not:

 e-ink is just for books.
It sucks for everything else, like magazines, browsing the web, games, or whatever.
You can get an iPad for the same price.
An iPad has a real browser, games, apps, music, a 10 hour battery, and enough power to read PDFs and do who knows what once jailbreaked.
AZW = mobi + DRM.
You can unprotect them with the unswindle hack, but it's a hassle.
Needing authorization from Amazon (or whoever) to access your freaking books is so 1984-ish! </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141598</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266265920000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(The Pirate Bay being the most popular free store)</p> </div><p>I know you only wanted to sound l33t, but everybody knows that bittorrent is one of the worst protocols to transfer books or similar media.  This because a book has very small size.</p><p>Believe me when I tell you, the *best* source of ebooks is gigapedia, which translates mainly into ifile.it, rapidshare and the like.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( The Pirate Bay being the most popular free store ) I know you only wanted to sound l33t , but everybody knows that bittorrent is one of the worst protocols to transfer books or similar media .
This because a book has very small size.Believe me when I tell you , the * best * source of ebooks is gigapedia , which translates mainly into ifile.it , rapidshare and the like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(The Pirate Bay being the most popular free store) I know you only wanted to sound l33t, but everybody knows that bittorrent is one of the worst protocols to transfer books or similar media.
This because a book has very small size.Believe me when I tell you, the *best* source of ebooks is gigapedia, which translates mainly into ifile.it, rapidshare and the like.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140216</id>
	<title>I read on iPod Touch</title>
	<author>trawg</author>
	<datestamp>1266164400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FWIW, I have switched to reading almost exclusively on iPod Touch using Stanza (also available for iPhone).</p><p>I know everyone loves e-ink; I've looked at several e-ink devices and they look pretty great (especially the iliad, except last time I checked it was AUD$1000 here). I find the LCD screen is perfectly adequate for reading (I read at least an hour a day on this, usually more). It's not great in direct sunlight, but it's easily doable, and its rare that I want to sit out in the Australian sun and enjoy a nice book. I travel a lot and the benefits of a backlit screen are immense - I can read anywhere, in almost any conditions.</p><p>The battery life is pretty good - easily keeps me going for long trips (14-24 hours travel time) (I don't read the entire time), even listening to music occasionally as well. If it gets low I can always top it up from my laptop, too.</p><p>I like having it in a device I can also use for video, Internet, email, etc. Lots of advantages. I can live without e-ink for now. Plus the ipod Touch is around the same price as most entry level e-ink readers.</p><p>The biggest issue is lack of good, competitively priced content. There are some good stores in Stanza (which, incidentally, was bought by Amazon recently - wtf isn't the Amazon store in Stanza yet (Kindle)) but not enough to really make it easy/simple enough to get good content. You've got to look elsewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FWIW , I have switched to reading almost exclusively on iPod Touch using Stanza ( also available for iPhone ) .I know everyone loves e-ink ; I 've looked at several e-ink devices and they look pretty great ( especially the iliad , except last time I checked it was AUD $ 1000 here ) .
I find the LCD screen is perfectly adequate for reading ( I read at least an hour a day on this , usually more ) .
It 's not great in direct sunlight , but it 's easily doable , and its rare that I want to sit out in the Australian sun and enjoy a nice book .
I travel a lot and the benefits of a backlit screen are immense - I can read anywhere , in almost any conditions.The battery life is pretty good - easily keeps me going for long trips ( 14-24 hours travel time ) ( I do n't read the entire time ) , even listening to music occasionally as well .
If it gets low I can always top it up from my laptop , too.I like having it in a device I can also use for video , Internet , email , etc .
Lots of advantages .
I can live without e-ink for now .
Plus the ipod Touch is around the same price as most entry level e-ink readers.The biggest issue is lack of good , competitively priced content .
There are some good stores in Stanza ( which , incidentally , was bought by Amazon recently - wtf is n't the Amazon store in Stanza yet ( Kindle ) ) but not enough to really make it easy/simple enough to get good content .
You 've got to look elsewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FWIW, I have switched to reading almost exclusively on iPod Touch using Stanza (also available for iPhone).I know everyone loves e-ink; I've looked at several e-ink devices and they look pretty great (especially the iliad, except last time I checked it was AUD$1000 here).
I find the LCD screen is perfectly adequate for reading (I read at least an hour a day on this, usually more).
It's not great in direct sunlight, but it's easily doable, and its rare that I want to sit out in the Australian sun and enjoy a nice book.
I travel a lot and the benefits of a backlit screen are immense - I can read anywhere, in almost any conditions.The battery life is pretty good - easily keeps me going for long trips (14-24 hours travel time) (I don't read the entire time), even listening to music occasionally as well.
If it gets low I can always top it up from my laptop, too.I like having it in a device I can also use for video, Internet, email, etc.
Lots of advantages.
I can live without e-ink for now.
Plus the ipod Touch is around the same price as most entry level e-ink readers.The biggest issue is lack of good, competitively priced content.
There are some good stores in Stanza (which, incidentally, was bought by Amazon recently - wtf isn't the Amazon store in Stanza yet (Kindle)) but not enough to really make it easy/simple enough to get good content.
You've got to look elsewhere.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142458</id>
	<title>Serious People Use the NUUT 2</title>
	<author>Osinoche</author>
	<datestamp>1266234060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It has a  good feature set, a good price point, AND it can read Hangul.
Win win for the Kimchi lover in you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It has a good feature set , a good price point , AND it can read Hangul .
Win win for the Kimchi lover in you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has a  good feature set, a good price point, AND it can read Hangul.
Win win for the Kimchi lover in you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138606</id>
	<title>Kindle DX for academic work</title>
	<author>Z8</author>
	<datestamp>1266152460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's expensive, but if you can afford it (or get it as a gift like I did), it's quite nice.  The big screen (9.7in, 824x1200px) makes reading PDFs easier than the other readers I've tried.  It's really impractical to read normal PDFs on a 6" screen.  Also, you can plug it into a computer and use it like any other USB storage device.  In theory it has DRM, but I mainly use it to read PDFs (e.g. journal articles).  Finally, it has wireless access at no additional charge.  As long as you don't actually buy DRM'd books through Amazon, what's not to like?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's expensive , but if you can afford it ( or get it as a gift like I did ) , it 's quite nice .
The big screen ( 9.7in , 824x1200px ) makes reading PDFs easier than the other readers I 've tried .
It 's really impractical to read normal PDFs on a 6 " screen .
Also , you can plug it into a computer and use it like any other USB storage device .
In theory it has DRM , but I mainly use it to read PDFs ( e.g .
journal articles ) .
Finally , it has wireless access at no additional charge .
As long as you do n't actually buy DRM 'd books through Amazon , what 's not to like ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's expensive, but if you can afford it (or get it as a gift like I did), it's quite nice.
The big screen (9.7in, 824x1200px) makes reading PDFs easier than the other readers I've tried.
It's really impractical to read normal PDFs on a 6" screen.
Also, you can plug it into a computer and use it like any other USB storage device.
In theory it has DRM, but I mainly use it to read PDFs (e.g.
journal articles).
Finally, it has wireless access at no additional charge.
As long as you don't actually buy DRM'd books through Amazon, what's not to like?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143932</id>
	<title>Entourage Edge of course</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266248880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By far the ENTOURAGE EDGE looks the most promising. With a dual-computing enabled device, with two screens... The computer system runs Google Chrome and has<br>touch screen , while the other screen has eINK and is thus good on the eyes and so forth... Also supports normal PDF files (of which I have thousands) and generic USB support</p><p>http://www.entourageedge.com/</p><p>As soon as they ship internationally, this is the one I want</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By far the ENTOURAGE EDGE looks the most promising .
With a dual-computing enabled device , with two screens... The computer system runs Google Chrome and hastouch screen , while the other screen has eINK and is thus good on the eyes and so forth... Also supports normal PDF files ( of which I have thousands ) and generic USB supporthttp : //www.entourageedge.com/As soon as they ship internationally , this is the one I want</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By far the ENTOURAGE EDGE looks the most promising.
With a dual-computing enabled device, with two screens... The computer system runs Google Chrome and hastouch screen , while the other screen has eINK and is thus good on the eyes and so forth... Also supports normal PDF files (of which I have thousands) and generic USB supporthttp://www.entourageedge.com/As soon as they ship internationally, this is the one I want</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140134</id>
	<title>BeBook running OpenInkPot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266163620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't get much more open...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't get much more open.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't get much more open...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140272</id>
	<title>Re:dead trees</title>
	<author>masmullin</author>
	<datestamp>1266164940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No actually... you can redownload your books when/if you get a new kindle.  It sucks having to purchase the hardware again, but hey, maybe you shouldn't have been reading in the bath anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No actually... you can redownload your books when/if you get a new kindle .
It sucks having to purchase the hardware again , but hey , maybe you should n't have been reading in the bath anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No actually... you can redownload your books when/if you get a new kindle.
It sucks having to purchase the hardware again, but hey, maybe you shouldn't have been reading in the bath anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142838</id>
	<title>Re:It hasn't been invented yet.</title>
	<author>PhilHibbs</author>
	<datestamp>1266238920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you'll be dead of old age before you see that list filled. Point 4 is a big problem, and if it fulfils all points 1-9 then what will a "more functionally versatile" device offer in addition to all this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 'll be dead of old age before you see that list filled .
Point 4 is a big problem , and if it fulfils all points 1-9 then what will a " more functionally versatile " device offer in addition to all this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you'll be dead of old age before you see that list filled.
Point 4 is a big problem, and if it fulfils all points 1-9 then what will a "more functionally versatile" device offer in addition to all this?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138738</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle</title>
	<author>InlawBiker</author>
	<datestamp>1266153480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have the Kindle 1.0.  I read it practically every night, have been doing so for close to two years.</p><p>I can read e-ink for hours and hours.  The battery life is outstanding.  Both can load up all the free books you want. The Sony and Kindle have virtually the same experience except -</p><p>- Kindle has the Amazon store at your fingertips.  I have to admit, it's pretty convenient.  I have bought maybe 4 or 5 books.</p><p>- Sony can check out library books - ePup and PDF.</p><p>Now there are tons of competitors but these are still the key deciding factors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the Kindle 1.0 .
I read it practically every night , have been doing so for close to two years.I can read e-ink for hours and hours .
The battery life is outstanding .
Both can load up all the free books you want .
The Sony and Kindle have virtually the same experience except -- Kindle has the Amazon store at your fingertips .
I have to admit , it 's pretty convenient .
I have bought maybe 4 or 5 books.- Sony can check out library books - ePup and PDF.Now there are tons of competitors but these are still the key deciding factors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the Kindle 1.0.
I read it practically every night, have been doing so for close to two years.I can read e-ink for hours and hours.
The battery life is outstanding.
Both can load up all the free books you want.
The Sony and Kindle have virtually the same experience except -- Kindle has the Amazon store at your fingertips.
I have to admit, it's pretty convenient.
I have bought maybe 4 or 5 books.- Sony can check out library books - ePup and PDF.Now there are tons of competitors but these are still the key deciding factors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142900</id>
	<title>I'm surprised...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266239880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the most excellent Bookeen's Cybook Gen3 yet http://www.bookeen.com/ebook/ebook-reading-device.aspx</p><p>Pros (for me): Includes SD slot, mounts as disk in any OS. No wifi = no kindle censorship. Add additional fonts easilly. Improves itself constantly (see below). Replacable battery. Screen size is just right(tm).<br>Cons: the "back to main menu" button is placed a bit awkward.</p><p>I bought it in 2008 and haven't felt an urge to buy another eBook reader since I got it because Bookeen is often releasing new Firmware for it; about once or twice per year. I recently installed the latest Firmware upgrade that includes faster page turning (it now turns pages in half a second on a 400k book even with full blanking and that has improved the battery life even further) and better PDF rendering, layout can be displayed by folder location etc.</p><p>I'm not affiliated with Bookeen, I'm just a happy customer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm surprised that no one has mentioned the most excellent Bookeen 's Cybook Gen3 yet http : //www.bookeen.com/ebook/ebook-reading-device.aspxPros ( for me ) : Includes SD slot , mounts as disk in any OS .
No wifi = no kindle censorship .
Add additional fonts easilly .
Improves itself constantly ( see below ) .
Replacable battery .
Screen size is just right ( tm ) .Cons : the " back to main menu " button is placed a bit awkward.I bought it in 2008 and have n't felt an urge to buy another eBook reader since I got it because Bookeen is often releasing new Firmware for it ; about once or twice per year .
I recently installed the latest Firmware upgrade that includes faster page turning ( it now turns pages in half a second on a 400k book even with full blanking and that has improved the battery life even further ) and better PDF rendering , layout can be displayed by folder location etc.I 'm not affiliated with Bookeen , I 'm just a happy customer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the most excellent Bookeen's Cybook Gen3 yet http://www.bookeen.com/ebook/ebook-reading-device.aspxPros (for me): Includes SD slot, mounts as disk in any OS.
No wifi = no kindle censorship.
Add additional fonts easilly.
Improves itself constantly (see below).
Replacable battery.
Screen size is just right(tm).Cons: the "back to main menu" button is placed a bit awkward.I bought it in 2008 and haven't felt an urge to buy another eBook reader since I got it because Bookeen is often releasing new Firmware for it; about once or twice per year.
I recently installed the latest Firmware upgrade that includes faster page turning (it now turns pages in half a second on a 400k book even with full blanking and that has improved the battery life even further) and better PDF rendering, layout can be displayed by folder location etc.I'm not affiliated with Bookeen, I'm just a happy customer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140282</id>
	<title>Re:The most open/least crippled &amp; versatile..</title>
	<author>Nixoloco</author>
	<datestamp>1266165000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
The Nook is not in the same category as the Kindle. It uses ePub or PDB DRM when you buy from the Barne's &amp; Noble store, but supports side loading content from ePub or PDF. You can purchase content from just about anywhere that uses the standard ePub format with no DRM or with the Adobe DRM. I own one and have had to purchase a few technical books that were not available on B&amp;N. <br>
Also unlike Amazon, the ebooks you buy from B&amp;N will work on many other readers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Nook is not in the same category as the Kindle .
It uses ePub or PDB DRM when you buy from the Barne 's &amp; Noble store , but supports side loading content from ePub or PDF .
You can purchase content from just about anywhere that uses the standard ePub format with no DRM or with the Adobe DRM .
I own one and have had to purchase a few technical books that were not available on B&amp;N .
Also unlike Amazon , the ebooks you buy from B&amp;N will work on many other readers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The Nook is not in the same category as the Kindle.
It uses ePub or PDB DRM when you buy from the Barne's &amp; Noble store, but supports side loading content from ePub or PDF.
You can purchase content from just about anywhere that uses the standard ePub format with no DRM or with the Adobe DRM.
I own one and have had to purchase a few technical books that were not available on B&amp;N.
Also unlike Amazon, the ebooks you buy from B&amp;N will work on many other readers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139640</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266159540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pshaw.  LaTeX can export to pdf quite nicely.  The real question: can it handle man pages?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pshaw .
LaTeX can export to pdf quite nicely .
The real question : can it handle man pages ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pshaw.
LaTeX can export to pdf quite nicely.
The real question: can it handle man pages?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31164202</id>
	<title>Re:The most open/least crippled &amp; versatile..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266337500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I too say the Ectaco JetBook Lite is the 'best' e-book reader.  I've had one since Dec'09 and have probably read about 25 books on it in that time.
<ul>
<li>Relatively inexpensive at $150 list, but probably not worth more than $100.  I bought one for ~ $80 from fictionwise.com, net of various promotions and rebates).</li><li>Uses AA's, and NiMH batteries run it for about 20-22 hours.  Most readers use lithium batteries, and a couple years after purchase you will end up buying a new reader because the replacement battery isn't available, is too expensive.  Some readers aren't designed for battery replacement.</li><li>The JBL has a very simple interface, is adequately performant, and the 5" diagonal transreflective greyscale LCD display is easy to read in most light conditions.  No eye fatigue, but also no backlight.</li><li>Easier on my hands/wrists than a paperback over extended periods of reading.</li><li>Looks like a mass storage device (std USB mini-B connector), works fine in Linux, and supported by Calibre, a great e-book organizer and format converter.</li><li>The JBL supports Secure eReader DRM, but I prefer unencrypted content for all the same reasons why DRM music was a non-starter for honest customers.</li><li>About 100MB of internal storage for books, but also offers an SDHC slot.</li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>I too say the Ectaco JetBook Lite is the 'best ' e-book reader .
I 've had one since Dec'09 and have probably read about 25 books on it in that time .
Relatively inexpensive at $ 150 list , but probably not worth more than $ 100 .
I bought one for ~ $ 80 from fictionwise.com , net of various promotions and rebates ) .Uses AA 's , and NiMH batteries run it for about 20-22 hours .
Most readers use lithium batteries , and a couple years after purchase you will end up buying a new reader because the replacement battery is n't available , is too expensive .
Some readers are n't designed for battery replacement.The JBL has a very simple interface , is adequately performant , and the 5 " diagonal transreflective greyscale LCD display is easy to read in most light conditions .
No eye fatigue , but also no backlight.Easier on my hands/wrists than a paperback over extended periods of reading.Looks like a mass storage device ( std USB mini-B connector ) , works fine in Linux , and supported by Calibre , a great e-book organizer and format converter.The JBL supports Secure eReader DRM , but I prefer unencrypted content for all the same reasons why DRM music was a non-starter for honest customers.About 100MB of internal storage for books , but also offers an SDHC slot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I too say the Ectaco JetBook Lite is the 'best' e-book reader.
I've had one since Dec'09 and have probably read about 25 books on it in that time.
Relatively inexpensive at $150 list, but probably not worth more than $100.
I bought one for ~ $80 from fictionwise.com, net of various promotions and rebates).Uses AA's, and NiMH batteries run it for about 20-22 hours.
Most readers use lithium batteries, and a couple years after purchase you will end up buying a new reader because the replacement battery isn't available, is too expensive.
Some readers aren't designed for battery replacement.The JBL has a very simple interface, is adequately performant, and the 5" diagonal transreflective greyscale LCD display is easy to read in most light conditions.
No eye fatigue, but also no backlight.Easier on my hands/wrists than a paperback over extended periods of reading.Looks like a mass storage device (std USB mini-B connector), works fine in Linux, and supported by Calibre, a great e-book organizer and format converter.The JBL supports Secure eReader DRM, but I prefer unencrypted content for all the same reasons why DRM music was a non-starter for honest customers.About 100MB of internal storage for books, but also offers an SDHC slot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138694</id>
	<title>Its slashdot so...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266153120000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Half of the comments will be about how traditional books are far superior and the other half will be recommending an item with an LCD screen. If you're lucky you'll get a debate about DRM on Kindle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Half of the comments will be about how traditional books are far superior and the other half will be recommending an item with an LCD screen .
If you 're lucky you 'll get a debate about DRM on Kindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Half of the comments will be about how traditional books are far superior and the other half will be recommending an item with an LCD screen.
If you're lucky you'll get a debate about DRM on Kindle.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Best kids ebook format - QBook - Touchable Text</title>
	<author>matrixskp</author>
	<datestamp>1266155160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Disclaimer: I make it, so I'm biased. There's a vid on youtube <a href="http://youtube.com/kiwamedia" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/kiwamedia</a> [youtube.com] or you can download the free iPhone app of one of our first releases Seb's Tail from itunes.<br> <br>

<a href="http://kiwamedia.com/qbook" title="kiwamedia.com" rel="nofollow">http://kiwamedia.com/qbook</a> [kiwamedia.com] <br>
<a href="http://itunes.com/apps/kiwamedia" title="itunes.com" rel="nofollow">http://itunes.com/apps/kiwamedia</a> [itunes.com] <br> <br>

QBook is a touch enabled color children's book. I've been working on this for a number of years now, its the first ebook that features touchable text. You simply swipe your finger over the text to hear it read aloud, tap words to hear them or touch and hold to hear the word spelt and each book contains multiple languages (so far we have US English, Maori, Spanish, Portugese, French, Japanese, German and Italian... still working on Chinese), so its great for language development for both adults and kids. Kids love it because they can explore the words at their own pace. Parents can also record the story in their own voice.
<br> <br>
I've talked with a lot of publishers and most of them have not migrated their childrens books to ePub format due to its lack of support for full color pictures and text styling (kids books often use lots of different fonts etc).
<br> <br>
Its been well received so far and we have a large library of material which is due to be released over the next few months. We've spent a lot of time making the tools to build these books easily, we have a WYSIWYG editor that allows us to follow the format of the books and can then hit a build button and see the app running on the iPhone or iPad simulator.
<br> <br>
We already have our books optimised for iPad and we believe that QBook takes full advantage of this industry changing device. We foresee this becoming a great educational tool for children as well as a language learning tool.<br> <br>
I personally read alot of material on my iPhone and the only down side is the screen size just isnt big enough. Of course the iPad resolves this issue and I think the iPad will become the market leader by the end of this year.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Disclaimer : I make it , so I 'm biased .
There 's a vid on youtube http : //youtube.com/kiwamedia [ youtube.com ] or you can download the free iPhone app of one of our first releases Seb 's Tail from itunes .
http : //kiwamedia.com/qbook [ kiwamedia.com ] http : //itunes.com/apps/kiwamedia [ itunes.com ] QBook is a touch enabled color children 's book .
I 've been working on this for a number of years now , its the first ebook that features touchable text .
You simply swipe your finger over the text to hear it read aloud , tap words to hear them or touch and hold to hear the word spelt and each book contains multiple languages ( so far we have US English , Maori , Spanish , Portugese , French , Japanese , German and Italian... still working on Chinese ) , so its great for language development for both adults and kids .
Kids love it because they can explore the words at their own pace .
Parents can also record the story in their own voice .
I 've talked with a lot of publishers and most of them have not migrated their childrens books to ePub format due to its lack of support for full color pictures and text styling ( kids books often use lots of different fonts etc ) .
Its been well received so far and we have a large library of material which is due to be released over the next few months .
We 've spent a lot of time making the tools to build these books easily , we have a WYSIWYG editor that allows us to follow the format of the books and can then hit a build button and see the app running on the iPhone or iPad simulator .
We already have our books optimised for iPad and we believe that QBook takes full advantage of this industry changing device .
We foresee this becoming a great educational tool for children as well as a language learning tool .
I personally read alot of material on my iPhone and the only down side is the screen size just isnt big enough .
Of course the iPad resolves this issue and I think the iPad will become the market leader by the end of this year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disclaimer: I make it, so I'm biased.
There's a vid on youtube http://youtube.com/kiwamedia [youtube.com] or you can download the free iPhone app of one of our first releases Seb's Tail from itunes.
http://kiwamedia.com/qbook [kiwamedia.com] 
http://itunes.com/apps/kiwamedia [itunes.com]  

QBook is a touch enabled color children's book.
I've been working on this for a number of years now, its the first ebook that features touchable text.
You simply swipe your finger over the text to hear it read aloud, tap words to hear them or touch and hold to hear the word spelt and each book contains multiple languages (so far we have US English, Maori, Spanish, Portugese, French, Japanese, German and Italian... still working on Chinese), so its great for language development for both adults and kids.
Kids love it because they can explore the words at their own pace.
Parents can also record the story in their own voice.
I've talked with a lot of publishers and most of them have not migrated their childrens books to ePub format due to its lack of support for full color pictures and text styling (kids books often use lots of different fonts etc).
Its been well received so far and we have a large library of material which is due to be released over the next few months.
We've spent a lot of time making the tools to build these books easily, we have a WYSIWYG editor that allows us to follow the format of the books and can then hit a build button and see the app running on the iPhone or iPad simulator.
We already have our books optimised for iPad and we believe that QBook takes full advantage of this industry changing device.
We foresee this becoming a great educational tool for children as well as a language learning tool.
I personally read alot of material on my iPhone and the only down side is the screen size just isnt big enough.
Of course the iPad resolves this issue and I think the iPad will become the market leader by the end of this year.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142920</id>
	<title>Re:iPad?</title>
	<author>PhilHibbs</author>
	<datestamp>1266240120000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The post you are replying to did not mention Kindle or DRM. Yes, some people here will not consider the Kindle because of the DRM. And some people here - maybe other people to the anti-Kindle people - will consider an iPad. We aren't all the same person with the same opinion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The post you are replying to did not mention Kindle or DRM .
Yes , some people here will not consider the Kindle because of the DRM .
And some people here - maybe other people to the anti-Kindle people - will consider an iPad .
We are n't all the same person with the same opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The post you are replying to did not mention Kindle or DRM.
Yes, some people here will not consider the Kindle because of the DRM.
And some people here - maybe other people to the anti-Kindle people - will consider an iPad.
We aren't all the same person with the same opinion.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:The Sony - The best option at the moment</title>
	<author>benmhall</author>
	<datestamp>1266228300000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I'd also opt for the Sony.</p><p>A friend gave me his PRS-505.  I find it to be fine.  Not great but fine.  No doubt the newer ones are nicer.  The 505 reads ePub very well, handles PDF, works with the pilot Digital Editions Library service offered in my municipality (borrow eBooks for two weeks at a time.)  It works well in Linux and Mac OS. Getting books on and off is a snap, just using drag and drop.  Battery life is good.  The Sony Reader store has a reasonable collection of books at a decent price.  It's generally not cheaper than a print book from Amazon.ca but the format and selection is convenient for me.  The old Sony eReader Store used a proprietary locked-down format that nothing else could handle.  Thankfully, the new Sony Reader Store now sells books in ePub format.</p><p>Now, the ePub books sold at the Sony Store are DRM-encumbered.  This, of course, is very bad.  (See other comments for good examples of why.)  Having said this, if you live in a country with sane fair dealing/fair use laws, you can, with a little work, find reasonably straightforward ways to remove the DRM from the books sold at the Reader Store.</p><p>Piracy is bad, so is treating your customers as thieves by default.  I won't ever pirate a book; nor will I invest in a locked format that I can't use as I'd like.  I buy almost all of my music on-line now because I can finally buy MP3 and AAC files without DRM.  I won't buy into digital movies or Blu-Ray because of the DRM.  I was very reluctant to buy into electronic books until a I had a good source of DRM-free ePub books.</p><p>Thankfully, publishers seem to be getting this faster than the music and movie studios.  Pretty much all O'Reilly books are  now available as ePub.  The Sony Reader Store sells ePub that you can eventually turn in to standard DRM-free books.  The situation appears to be getting better.  One can now read books purchased through the Sony Reader Store in Linux and with ePub software for phones.  The situation with Sony reminds me of iTunes pre-M4A.  Yes, you could buy an album electronically but you had to burn it out and rip it back to side-step the DRM.  Not terribly user-friendly but not horrible.</p><p>To me, the worst thing about eBook readers is that vendors are locking customers in to closed silos.  A Nook can't read Kindle books, Kindle can't read the ubiquitous ePub format.  All the while, you can walk down to the store and buy the print version without any of these limitations for about the same price.  This is madness.</p><p>Privacy concerns are also a problem.  The thought of a device, with an always-on wired connection, allowing companies to remove books post-purchase scares me.  The thought of Amazon knowing what page I am on of every book they sell me also bothers me.  In all of this, Sony, of all companies, looks the least bad.  Go figure.</p><p>No doubt it's early days.  I think you'd be nuts to buy anything that can't handle ePub and PDF.  I also wouldn't buy anything that locks me to a single supplier of books.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd also opt for the Sony.A friend gave me his PRS-505 .
I find it to be fine .
Not great but fine .
No doubt the newer ones are nicer .
The 505 reads ePub very well , handles PDF , works with the pilot Digital Editions Library service offered in my municipality ( borrow eBooks for two weeks at a time .
) It works well in Linux and Mac OS .
Getting books on and off is a snap , just using drag and drop .
Battery life is good .
The Sony Reader store has a reasonable collection of books at a decent price .
It 's generally not cheaper than a print book from Amazon.ca but the format and selection is convenient for me .
The old Sony eReader Store used a proprietary locked-down format that nothing else could handle .
Thankfully , the new Sony Reader Store now sells books in ePub format.Now , the ePub books sold at the Sony Store are DRM-encumbered .
This , of course , is very bad .
( See other comments for good examples of why .
) Having said this , if you live in a country with sane fair dealing/fair use laws , you can , with a little work , find reasonably straightforward ways to remove the DRM from the books sold at the Reader Store.Piracy is bad , so is treating your customers as thieves by default .
I wo n't ever pirate a book ; nor will I invest in a locked format that I ca n't use as I 'd like .
I buy almost all of my music on-line now because I can finally buy MP3 and AAC files without DRM .
I wo n't buy into digital movies or Blu-Ray because of the DRM .
I was very reluctant to buy into electronic books until a I had a good source of DRM-free ePub books.Thankfully , publishers seem to be getting this faster than the music and movie studios .
Pretty much all O'Reilly books are now available as ePub .
The Sony Reader Store sells ePub that you can eventually turn in to standard DRM-free books .
The situation appears to be getting better .
One can now read books purchased through the Sony Reader Store in Linux and with ePub software for phones .
The situation with Sony reminds me of iTunes pre-M4A .
Yes , you could buy an album electronically but you had to burn it out and rip it back to side-step the DRM .
Not terribly user-friendly but not horrible.To me , the worst thing about eBook readers is that vendors are locking customers in to closed silos .
A Nook ca n't read Kindle books , Kindle ca n't read the ubiquitous ePub format .
All the while , you can walk down to the store and buy the print version without any of these limitations for about the same price .
This is madness.Privacy concerns are also a problem .
The thought of a device , with an always-on wired connection , allowing companies to remove books post-purchase scares me .
The thought of Amazon knowing what page I am on of every book they sell me also bothers me .
In all of this , Sony , of all companies , looks the least bad .
Go figure.No doubt it 's early days .
I think you 'd be nuts to buy anything that ca n't handle ePub and PDF .
I also would n't buy anything that locks me to a single supplier of books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd also opt for the Sony.A friend gave me his PRS-505.
I find it to be fine.
Not great but fine.
No doubt the newer ones are nicer.
The 505 reads ePub very well, handles PDF, works with the pilot Digital Editions Library service offered in my municipality (borrow eBooks for two weeks at a time.
)  It works well in Linux and Mac OS.
Getting books on and off is a snap, just using drag and drop.
Battery life is good.
The Sony Reader store has a reasonable collection of books at a decent price.
It's generally not cheaper than a print book from Amazon.ca but the format and selection is convenient for me.
The old Sony eReader Store used a proprietary locked-down format that nothing else could handle.
Thankfully, the new Sony Reader Store now sells books in ePub format.Now, the ePub books sold at the Sony Store are DRM-encumbered.
This, of course, is very bad.
(See other comments for good examples of why.
)  Having said this, if you live in a country with sane fair dealing/fair use laws, you can, with a little work, find reasonably straightforward ways to remove the DRM from the books sold at the Reader Store.Piracy is bad, so is treating your customers as thieves by default.
I won't ever pirate a book; nor will I invest in a locked format that I can't use as I'd like.
I buy almost all of my music on-line now because I can finally buy MP3 and AAC files without DRM.
I won't buy into digital movies or Blu-Ray because of the DRM.
I was very reluctant to buy into electronic books until a I had a good source of DRM-free ePub books.Thankfully, publishers seem to be getting this faster than the music and movie studios.
Pretty much all O'Reilly books are  now available as ePub.
The Sony Reader Store sells ePub that you can eventually turn in to standard DRM-free books.
The situation appears to be getting better.
One can now read books purchased through the Sony Reader Store in Linux and with ePub software for phones.
The situation with Sony reminds me of iTunes pre-M4A.
Yes, you could buy an album electronically but you had to burn it out and rip it back to side-step the DRM.
Not terribly user-friendly but not horrible.To me, the worst thing about eBook readers is that vendors are locking customers in to closed silos.
A Nook can't read Kindle books, Kindle can't read the ubiquitous ePub format.
All the while, you can walk down to the store and buy the print version without any of these limitations for about the same price.
This is madness.Privacy concerns are also a problem.
The thought of a device, with an always-on wired connection, allowing companies to remove books post-purchase scares me.
The thought of Amazon knowing what page I am on of every book they sell me also bothers me.
In all of this, Sony, of all companies, looks the least bad.
Go figure.No doubt it's early days.
I think you'd be nuts to buy anything that can't handle ePub and PDF.
I also wouldn't buy anything that locks me to a single supplier of books.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Was thinking reader, now want iPad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266159360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't got the e-ink religion, so iPad for me all the way.</p><p>I was actually planning to get an e-reader, but when the entry price for iPad was announced, I switched to waiting for an iPad.</p><p>The only problem I see with it is waiting till the end of march to get one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't got the e-ink religion , so iPad for me all the way.I was actually planning to get an e-reader , but when the entry price for iPad was announced , I switched to waiting for an iPad.The only problem I see with it is waiting till the end of march to get one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't got the e-ink religion, so iPad for me all the way.I was actually planning to get an e-reader, but when the entry price for iPad was announced, I switched to waiting for an iPad.The only problem I see with it is waiting till the end of march to get one.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Jeremy Erwin</author>
	<datestamp>1266159120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Project Gutenberg is a showcase for the limitations of ASCII.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Project Gutenberg is a showcase for the limitations of ASCII .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Project Gutenberg is a showcase for the limitations of ASCII.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>walterbyrd</author>
	<datestamp>1266258600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>- Absolutely no issues with battery life</p><p>- By the far most durable: drop from three floor building, step on them, some have lasted for centuries, maybe more</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>- Absolutely no issues with battery life- By the far most durable : drop from three floor building , step on them , some have lasted for centuries , maybe more</tokentext>
<sentencetext>- Absolutely no issues with battery life- By the far most durable: drop from three floor building, step on them, some have lasted for centuries, maybe more</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>imakemusic</author>
	<datestamp>1266229980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're right. I've lost count of the times when I've been on a long flight and needed a few thousand books to read.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right .
I 've lost count of the times when I 've been on a long flight and needed a few thousand books to read .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right.
I've lost count of the times when I've been on a long flight and needed a few thousand books to read.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Sony PRS505</title>
	<author>nozzo</author>
	<datestamp>1266240540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I splashed out on a Sony PRS505 about 18 months ago and am very pleased with it. Yeah the menus can be sluggish but once you're into a book then it hardly matters. The most important factors were screen readability and eyestrain. I can read the Sony for hours and it's just the same as a physical book. Plus I've stuffed two complete Open University courses on an sdcard and so I can have them on-tap. Very cool.
Yeah I know others are better/worse/different but the 505 suits my needs and that's all I'm worried about<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I splashed out on a Sony PRS505 about 18 months ago and am very pleased with it .
Yeah the menus can be sluggish but once you 're into a book then it hardly matters .
The most important factors were screen readability and eyestrain .
I can read the Sony for hours and it 's just the same as a physical book .
Plus I 've stuffed two complete Open University courses on an sdcard and so I can have them on-tap .
Very cool .
Yeah I know others are better/worse/different but the 505 suits my needs and that 's all I 'm worried about : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I splashed out on a Sony PRS505 about 18 months ago and am very pleased with it.
Yeah the menus can be sluggish but once you're into a book then it hardly matters.
The most important factors were screen readability and eyestrain.
I can read the Sony for hours and it's just the same as a physical book.
Plus I've stuffed two complete Open University courses on an sdcard and so I can have them on-tap.
Very cool.
Yeah I know others are better/worse/different but the 505 suits my needs and that's all I'm worried about :-)</sentencetext>
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	<title>very happy with my kindle 2 -- but.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266518880000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>were i to buy a second device *today*, it'd be a sony. probably the touch. there's a new bookeen device that seems really interesting now, as well. (not the opus. the one that's a model 'up' from that one.)</p><p>any device that does not permit underlining and annotating is a non-starter. and the integrated dictionary on the kindle is great -- far more extensive than i would have expected. i didn't buy the sony first, because frankly i was mad about the fact that the earliest ones didn't even have *search* capability. it's an electronic device and doesn't have searching? wtf? back then, sony really didn't get it, and the reader was their red-headed stepchild. i'm still somewhat bitter about that -- it hurt sony's credibility in my mind. but the sony can be used to read e-books -- insofar as such exist -- from french, german, italian, etc. publishers. in those languages. that is the main (only?) reason i'd consider it.</p><p>since i'm not buying a second device anytime soon, i'll be watching for new developments. but no matter how pretty the new color screens will be (they will *have* to be reflective), if there's no possibility of underlining, annotating -- and now, if there's no integrated dictionary (really used to that feature, now), i still won't be buying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>were i to buy a second device * today * , it 'd be a sony .
probably the touch .
there 's a new bookeen device that seems really interesting now , as well .
( not the opus .
the one that 's a model 'up ' from that one .
) any device that does not permit underlining and annotating is a non-starter .
and the integrated dictionary on the kindle is great -- far more extensive than i would have expected .
i did n't buy the sony first , because frankly i was mad about the fact that the earliest ones did n't even have * search * capability .
it 's an electronic device and does n't have searching ?
wtf ? back then , sony really did n't get it , and the reader was their red-headed stepchild .
i 'm still somewhat bitter about that -- it hurt sony 's credibility in my mind .
but the sony can be used to read e-books -- insofar as such exist -- from french , german , italian , etc .
publishers. in those languages .
that is the main ( only ?
) reason i 'd consider it.since i 'm not buying a second device anytime soon , i 'll be watching for new developments .
but no matter how pretty the new color screens will be ( they will * have * to be reflective ) , if there 's no possibility of underlining , annotating -- and now , if there 's no integrated dictionary ( really used to that feature , now ) , i still wo n't be buying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>were i to buy a second device *today*, it'd be a sony.
probably the touch.
there's a new bookeen device that seems really interesting now, as well.
(not the opus.
the one that's a model 'up' from that one.
)any device that does not permit underlining and annotating is a non-starter.
and the integrated dictionary on the kindle is great -- far more extensive than i would have expected.
i didn't buy the sony first, because frankly i was mad about the fact that the earliest ones didn't even have *search* capability.
it's an electronic device and doesn't have searching?
wtf? back then, sony really didn't get it, and the reader was their red-headed stepchild.
i'm still somewhat bitter about that -- it hurt sony's credibility in my mind.
but the sony can be used to read e-books -- insofar as such exist -- from french, german, italian, etc.
publishers. in those languages.
that is the main (only?
) reason i'd consider it.since i'm not buying a second device anytime soon, i'll be watching for new developments.
but no matter how pretty the new color screens will be (they will *have* to be reflective), if there's no possibility of underlining, annotating -- and now, if there's no integrated dictionary (really used to that feature, now), i still won't be buying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138844</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266154140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where can I get one with e-ink that weighs half a pound? Thanks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where can I get one with e-ink that weighs half a pound ?
Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where can I get one with e-ink that weighs half a pound?
Thanks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143020</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>OolimPhon</author>
	<datestamp>1266241740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good luck reading that in bed, or on the bus, or in the dentist's waiting-room...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good luck reading that in bed , or on the bus , or in the dentist 's waiting-room.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good luck reading that in bed, or on the bus, or in the dentist's waiting-room...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143794</id>
	<title>It Depends</title>
	<author>cathyy</author>
	<datestamp>1266248220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a Kindle and love it; my husband has a Sony and loves it. I can read HTML files but not RTF; he can read RTF but not HTML. He can read the ePub format, I can read the Mobi format. We both read books without DRM most of the time, but I have a few azw files from Amazon, and they can never take them away from me. You see, I download all my purchased books to my computer. I keep them in the Calibre library, where I can sort by author, series, and genre. I also can convert formats in Calibre. The good thing is that Calibre keeps the original format, so if I convert a plain text file to mobi for my Kindle it can be converted again to LRF/epub for my husband. Usually I convert RTF files to mobi, and HTML files to epub. I also leave Whispernet off when I am not downloading a book from Amazon. No reason to have it on otherwise; if I want to surf the Internet I have better devices.</p><p>We will both be looking at iPads when they appear in stores. I am doubtful that one could replace my Kindle; e-ink is incredibly easy on the (somewhat aged) eyes. But I see other uses for the iPad for which I cannot use my Kindle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Kindle and love it ; my husband has a Sony and loves it .
I can read HTML files but not RTF ; he can read RTF but not HTML .
He can read the ePub format , I can read the Mobi format .
We both read books without DRM most of the time , but I have a few azw files from Amazon , and they can never take them away from me .
You see , I download all my purchased books to my computer .
I keep them in the Calibre library , where I can sort by author , series , and genre .
I also can convert formats in Calibre .
The good thing is that Calibre keeps the original format , so if I convert a plain text file to mobi for my Kindle it can be converted again to LRF/epub for my husband .
Usually I convert RTF files to mobi , and HTML files to epub .
I also leave Whispernet off when I am not downloading a book from Amazon .
No reason to have it on otherwise ; if I want to surf the Internet I have better devices.We will both be looking at iPads when they appear in stores .
I am doubtful that one could replace my Kindle ; e-ink is incredibly easy on the ( somewhat aged ) eyes .
But I see other uses for the iPad for which I can not use my Kindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Kindle and love it; my husband has a Sony and loves it.
I can read HTML files but not RTF; he can read RTF but not HTML.
He can read the ePub format, I can read the Mobi format.
We both read books without DRM most of the time, but I have a few azw files from Amazon, and they can never take them away from me.
You see, I download all my purchased books to my computer.
I keep them in the Calibre library, where I can sort by author, series, and genre.
I also can convert formats in Calibre.
The good thing is that Calibre keeps the original format, so if I convert a plain text file to mobi for my Kindle it can be converted again to LRF/epub for my husband.
Usually I convert RTF files to mobi, and HTML files to epub.
I also leave Whispernet off when I am not downloading a book from Amazon.
No reason to have it on otherwise; if I want to surf the Internet I have better devices.We will both be looking at iPads when they appear in stores.
I am doubtful that one could replace my Kindle; e-ink is incredibly easy on the (somewhat aged) eyes.
But I see other uses for the iPad for which I cannot use my Kindle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142178</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>bytesex</author>
	<datestamp>1266230220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ssshhhh.  Not so loud.  I don't think that the marketing troll that invented this topic wanted to hear that.</p><p>Hint: think black turtle neck.</p><p>Now that's better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ssshhhh .
Not so loud .
I do n't think that the marketing troll that invented this topic wanted to hear that.Hint : think black turtle neck.Now that 's better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ssshhhh.
Not so loud.
I don't think that the marketing troll that invented this topic wanted to hear that.Hint: think black turtle neck.Now that's better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143818</id>
	<title>Partial answer</title>
	<author>ggendel</author>
	<datestamp>1266248340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would think that you would find a better discusion on the mobiread forum, since this is a forum for serious ebook readers.  Personally, I would never call a backlit screen useful for serious reading.  It doesn't work well in brightly lighted areas (such as outdoors), and the flicker causes eyestrain and fatigue.  Reflective technologies such as eInk can be read for hours (like a book).  Touch screens do reduce the contrast ratio for these type of screens.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would think that you would find a better discusion on the mobiread forum , since this is a forum for serious ebook readers .
Personally , I would never call a backlit screen useful for serious reading .
It does n't work well in brightly lighted areas ( such as outdoors ) , and the flicker causes eyestrain and fatigue .
Reflective technologies such as eInk can be read for hours ( like a book ) .
Touch screens do reduce the contrast ratio for these type of screens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would think that you would find a better discusion on the mobiread forum, since this is a forum for serious ebook readers.
Personally, I would never call a backlit screen useful for serious reading.
It doesn't work well in brightly lighted areas (such as outdoors), and the flicker causes eyestrain and fatigue.
Reflective technologies such as eInk can be read for hours (like a book).
Touch screens do reduce the contrast ratio for these type of screens.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143394</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>damnbunni</author>
	<datestamp>1266245700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ManyBooks.net will also format texts for the Apple Newton, which actually makes a pretty darned good book reader. I read an awful lot of stuff on my Messagepad 2100 before I got my Bookeen CyBook v3.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ManyBooks.net will also format texts for the Apple Newton , which actually makes a pretty darned good book reader .
I read an awful lot of stuff on my Messagepad 2100 before I got my Bookeen CyBook v3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ManyBooks.net will also format texts for the Apple Newton, which actually makes a pretty darned good book reader.
I read an awful lot of stuff on my Messagepad 2100 before I got my Bookeen CyBook v3.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141620</id>
	<title>iPad, duh</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1266266100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fact that the iPad supports all of the books ever written, not just those that can be rendered on newsprint, is all you need to know. That wins the contest right there. Most books are in color. Many books are entirely made of photographs, such as art or recipe books. Even if a book is all text, the cover is usually color. Even business books are filled with color charts. Supporting the whole library is key. Further, it supports audio video so it supports future books, such as a book for learning Photoshop that includes video of painting techniques.</p><p>Secondarily, the touch user interface that lets you just turn the page is fantastic. You don't have to use buttons to read. The device becomes a book. A child can operate it without instruction. No nerd corps is required to help people to read a book.</p><p>The full Wi-Fi n and HTML5 Web browser based entirely on an open source, standards-compliant Web decoder is the modern equivalent of having a dictionary built-in. Hyperlinks in books take you right to the Web, and you have Google and Wikipedia and Oxford.</p><p>There are dozens, if not hundreds of bookstores, so you can buy from Amazon or Kobo or iBooks or use any of the ones that are filled with free public domain books. The open ePub format is supported in iBooks and many other reading apps. I work in publishing and iPad is the only reader that's generating excitement among publishers. We know that the master copies of these books can be translated to iPad and retain their quality, whereas on other readers you are degrading the master when you put it on there. You have to fix color charts, rework even basic things to make a book work on other readers. With iPad you just make an ePub. Your color photos and charts still work. The labor is much less and the result is much better on iPad.</p><p>The iPad battery can play 10 hours of video, which likely means 15 hours of book reading. It charges via USB and there are many juice packs, so you can get as much battery time as you need. This year at CES they had wall sockets with 2 AC and 2 USB in them.</p><p>The iPad adjusts its screen brightness to your surroundings so you don't wear out your eyes as on other readers. (Do not repeat that awful myth about LCD being harder on eyes than e-Ink<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... that is a joke at the best of times, ridiculous from a Slashdot reader.)</p><p>At $499 it has a premium price over other book readers, but you get much more. Not just full color and touch, but also 4-20 times the storage, much more speed, a built-in iPod, built-in and 3rd party apps, many games, Podcasts, and it can even run Skype. So it is a book reader with a PC and iPod built-in for many users. If the iPhone is prologue, it will be easy to get 2 years of everyday use from this device, and often even more. And Apple Stores provide consumer grade support, replacing faulty devices on the spot, and offering free help with any technical issues.</p><p>The fact that iPad runs on an open source Unix core OS means it is reliable and interoperates well with the Internet and other networks. Everyone who contributed to BSD, Mach, WebKit, OpenGL, and other open source projects and open standards that are represented in iPad should be extremely proud of themselves. This is the closest to Neal Stephenson's Young Lady's Illustrated Primer (read The Diamond Age) that we've come yet. Of course everyone at Apple should be proud also. This device has been described for decades and is sorely needed, much moreso than another Windows netbook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that the iPad supports all of the books ever written , not just those that can be rendered on newsprint , is all you need to know .
That wins the contest right there .
Most books are in color .
Many books are entirely made of photographs , such as art or recipe books .
Even if a book is all text , the cover is usually color .
Even business books are filled with color charts .
Supporting the whole library is key .
Further , it supports audio video so it supports future books , such as a book for learning Photoshop that includes video of painting techniques.Secondarily , the touch user interface that lets you just turn the page is fantastic .
You do n't have to use buttons to read .
The device becomes a book .
A child can operate it without instruction .
No nerd corps is required to help people to read a book.The full Wi-Fi n and HTML5 Web browser based entirely on an open source , standards-compliant Web decoder is the modern equivalent of having a dictionary built-in .
Hyperlinks in books take you right to the Web , and you have Google and Wikipedia and Oxford.There are dozens , if not hundreds of bookstores , so you can buy from Amazon or Kobo or iBooks or use any of the ones that are filled with free public domain books .
The open ePub format is supported in iBooks and many other reading apps .
I work in publishing and iPad is the only reader that 's generating excitement among publishers .
We know that the master copies of these books can be translated to iPad and retain their quality , whereas on other readers you are degrading the master when you put it on there .
You have to fix color charts , rework even basic things to make a book work on other readers .
With iPad you just make an ePub .
Your color photos and charts still work .
The labor is much less and the result is much better on iPad.The iPad battery can play 10 hours of video , which likely means 15 hours of book reading .
It charges via USB and there are many juice packs , so you can get as much battery time as you need .
This year at CES they had wall sockets with 2 AC and 2 USB in them.The iPad adjusts its screen brightness to your surroundings so you do n't wear out your eyes as on other readers .
( Do not repeat that awful myth about LCD being harder on eyes than e-Ink ... that is a joke at the best of times , ridiculous from a Slashdot reader .
) At $ 499 it has a premium price over other book readers , but you get much more .
Not just full color and touch , but also 4-20 times the storage , much more speed , a built-in iPod , built-in and 3rd party apps , many games , Podcasts , and it can even run Skype .
So it is a book reader with a PC and iPod built-in for many users .
If the iPhone is prologue , it will be easy to get 2 years of everyday use from this device , and often even more .
And Apple Stores provide consumer grade support , replacing faulty devices on the spot , and offering free help with any technical issues.The fact that iPad runs on an open source Unix core OS means it is reliable and interoperates well with the Internet and other networks .
Everyone who contributed to BSD , Mach , WebKit , OpenGL , and other open source projects and open standards that are represented in iPad should be extremely proud of themselves .
This is the closest to Neal Stephenson 's Young Lady 's Illustrated Primer ( read The Diamond Age ) that we 've come yet .
Of course everyone at Apple should be proud also .
This device has been described for decades and is sorely needed , much moreso than another Windows netbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that the iPad supports all of the books ever written, not just those that can be rendered on newsprint, is all you need to know.
That wins the contest right there.
Most books are in color.
Many books are entirely made of photographs, such as art or recipe books.
Even if a book is all text, the cover is usually color.
Even business books are filled with color charts.
Supporting the whole library is key.
Further, it supports audio video so it supports future books, such as a book for learning Photoshop that includes video of painting techniques.Secondarily, the touch user interface that lets you just turn the page is fantastic.
You don't have to use buttons to read.
The device becomes a book.
A child can operate it without instruction.
No nerd corps is required to help people to read a book.The full Wi-Fi n and HTML5 Web browser based entirely on an open source, standards-compliant Web decoder is the modern equivalent of having a dictionary built-in.
Hyperlinks in books take you right to the Web, and you have Google and Wikipedia and Oxford.There are dozens, if not hundreds of bookstores, so you can buy from Amazon or Kobo or iBooks or use any of the ones that are filled with free public domain books.
The open ePub format is supported in iBooks and many other reading apps.
I work in publishing and iPad is the only reader that's generating excitement among publishers.
We know that the master copies of these books can be translated to iPad and retain their quality, whereas on other readers you are degrading the master when you put it on there.
You have to fix color charts, rework even basic things to make a book work on other readers.
With iPad you just make an ePub.
Your color photos and charts still work.
The labor is much less and the result is much better on iPad.The iPad battery can play 10 hours of video, which likely means 15 hours of book reading.
It charges via USB and there are many juice packs, so you can get as much battery time as you need.
This year at CES they had wall sockets with 2 AC and 2 USB in them.The iPad adjusts its screen brightness to your surroundings so you don't wear out your eyes as on other readers.
(Do not repeat that awful myth about LCD being harder on eyes than e-Ink ... that is a joke at the best of times, ridiculous from a Slashdot reader.
)At $499 it has a premium price over other book readers, but you get much more.
Not just full color and touch, but also 4-20 times the storage, much more speed, a built-in iPod, built-in and 3rd party apps, many games, Podcasts, and it can even run Skype.
So it is a book reader with a PC and iPod built-in for many users.
If the iPhone is prologue, it will be easy to get 2 years of everyday use from this device, and often even more.
And Apple Stores provide consumer grade support, replacing faulty devices on the spot, and offering free help with any technical issues.The fact that iPad runs on an open source Unix core OS means it is reliable and interoperates well with the Internet and other networks.
Everyone who contributed to BSD, Mach, WebKit, OpenGL, and other open source projects and open standards that are represented in iPad should be extremely proud of themselves.
This is the closest to Neal Stephenson's Young Lady's Illustrated Primer (read The Diamond Age) that we've come yet.
Of course everyone at Apple should be proud also.
This device has been described for decades and is sorely needed, much moreso than another Windows netbook.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31144548</id>
	<title>The Magical Pony 200x</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266252060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The best e-reader has</p><p>1) Color e-ink screen without flicker<br>2) Accurate stylus and finger touch-screen input<br>3) Support for ePub, PDF, HTML, and the usual text formats out of the box<br>4) Ubiquitous wireless internet access<br>5) One week of battery life while in use<br>6) An open SDK for third-party applications and third-party formats<br>7) A built-in news aggregator application with a better UI than a plain list that supports multiple mainstream sources as well as any standard RSS stream<br>8) Built-in podcast support including over-the-air updating<br>9) Effortless syncing to a PC, Mac, Linux, NAS (WebDAV and SMB at least), and online backup services<br>10) Price tag under $100<br>11) 10-year warranty minimum<br>12) 10-year guarantee of support and software updates<br>13) Unlimited guarantee of support of built-in formats in future devices<br>14) Escrow of all IP in case of business failure<br>15) All e-readers delivered by Unicorn Express couriers</p><p>And as soon as this magical device is released, an e-reader might be worth getting instead of paper books.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The best e-reader has1 ) Color e-ink screen without flicker2 ) Accurate stylus and finger touch-screen input3 ) Support for ePub , PDF , HTML , and the usual text formats out of the box4 ) Ubiquitous wireless internet access5 ) One week of battery life while in use6 ) An open SDK for third-party applications and third-party formats7 ) A built-in news aggregator application with a better UI than a plain list that supports multiple mainstream sources as well as any standard RSS stream8 ) Built-in podcast support including over-the-air updating9 ) Effortless syncing to a PC , Mac , Linux , NAS ( WebDAV and SMB at least ) , and online backup services10 ) Price tag under $ 10011 ) 10-year warranty minimum12 ) 10-year guarantee of support and software updates13 ) Unlimited guarantee of support of built-in formats in future devices14 ) Escrow of all IP in case of business failure15 ) All e-readers delivered by Unicorn Express couriersAnd as soon as this magical device is released , an e-reader might be worth getting instead of paper books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best e-reader has1) Color e-ink screen without flicker2) Accurate stylus and finger touch-screen input3) Support for ePub, PDF, HTML, and the usual text formats out of the box4) Ubiquitous wireless internet access5) One week of battery life while in use6) An open SDK for third-party applications and third-party formats7) A built-in news aggregator application with a better UI than a plain list that supports multiple mainstream sources as well as any standard RSS stream8) Built-in podcast support including over-the-air updating9) Effortless syncing to a PC, Mac, Linux, NAS (WebDAV and SMB at least), and online backup services10) Price tag under $10011) 10-year warranty minimum12) 10-year guarantee of support and software updates13) Unlimited guarantee of support of built-in formats in future devices14) Escrow of all IP in case of business failure15) All e-readers delivered by Unicorn Express couriersAnd as soon as this magical device is released, an e-reader might be worth getting instead of paper books.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143896</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Man Eating Duck</author>
	<datestamp>1266248760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Unfortunately, books fail hard at carrying capacity.</p></div></blockquote><p>They also fail hard at being e-readers, which is what the question was about<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>I agree about the carrying capacity. It's akin to my mp3 player; I'll never listen to ALL my music on every trip, but it's nice not having to select a few CDs that I'm going to bring in advance. I used to bring 8-10 books on a week-long vacation, I'm glad those days are gone.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Unfortunately , books fail hard at carrying capacity.They also fail hard at being e-readers , which is what the question was about : ) I agree about the carrying capacity .
It 's akin to my mp3 player ; I 'll never listen to ALL my music on every trip , but it 's nice not having to select a few CDs that I 'm going to bring in advance .
I used to bring 8-10 books on a week-long vacation , I 'm glad those days are gone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, books fail hard at carrying capacity.They also fail hard at being e-readers, which is what the question was about :)I agree about the carrying capacity.
It's akin to my mp3 player; I'll never listen to ALL my music on every trip, but it's nice not having to select a few CDs that I'm going to bring in advance.
I used to bring 8-10 books on a week-long vacation, I'm glad those days are gone.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31153768</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266320940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>don't forget new battery technologies make ebook readers show your book for much longer than a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..... oh wait.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>do n't forget new battery technologies make ebook readers show your book for much longer than a ..... oh wait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>don't forget new battery technologies make ebook readers show your book for much longer than a ..... oh wait.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139420</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266158040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>e-ink is overrated.  LCDs aren't that hard on the eyes and since I don't read outside I often find they are better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>e-ink is overrated .
LCDs are n't that hard on the eyes and since I do n't read outside I often find they are better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>e-ink is overrated.
LCDs aren't that hard on the eyes and since I don't read outside I often find they are better.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142232</id>
	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266230820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But the cost of paper and ink cost.<br>As well as shipping and storing the books.</p><p>I can buy paper backs with shipping cheaper then I can by the same book as E-Book.<br>A friend of mine got a hardcover book with shipping cheaper then the E-Book version.</p><p>And when I say shipping then it's not local shipping.<br>Its from England to Denmark (Europe)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But the cost of paper and ink cost.As well as shipping and storing the books.I can buy paper backs with shipping cheaper then I can by the same book as E-Book.A friend of mine got a hardcover book with shipping cheaper then the E-Book version.And when I say shipping then it 's not local shipping.Its from England to Denmark ( Europe )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But the cost of paper and ink cost.As well as shipping and storing the books.I can buy paper backs with shipping cheaper then I can by the same book as E-Book.A friend of mine got a hardcover book with shipping cheaper then the E-Book version.And when I say shipping then it's not local shipping.Its from England to Denmark (Europe)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31144042</id>
	<title>Re:The Sony</title>
	<author>coldsalmon</author>
	<datestamp>1266249540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have only the Sony PRS-505, and have never used any other e-reader.  I like it very much because it supports so many open/common formats, such as PDF, RTF, and EPUB.  There is a good third-party FOSS app for it as well (Calibre).  In addition to being good for public domain texts, it is also great for viewing your own documents.  I used it to study my bar exam outlines, which I merely saved in RTF format and copied to the reader.  Again, I can't compare it to other e-readers because I haven't tried any, but it's good for what I like to do with it.  The interface is pretty clumsy, but that really doesn't get in the way too badly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have only the Sony PRS-505 , and have never used any other e-reader .
I like it very much because it supports so many open/common formats , such as PDF , RTF , and EPUB .
There is a good third-party FOSS app for it as well ( Calibre ) .
In addition to being good for public domain texts , it is also great for viewing your own documents .
I used it to study my bar exam outlines , which I merely saved in RTF format and copied to the reader .
Again , I ca n't compare it to other e-readers because I have n't tried any , but it 's good for what I like to do with it .
The interface is pretty clumsy , but that really does n't get in the way too badly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have only the Sony PRS-505, and have never used any other e-reader.
I like it very much because it supports so many open/common formats, such as PDF, RTF, and EPUB.
There is a good third-party FOSS app for it as well (Calibre).
In addition to being good for public domain texts, it is also great for viewing your own documents.
I used it to study my bar exam outlines, which I merely saved in RTF format and copied to the reader.
Again, I can't compare it to other e-readers because I haven't tried any, but it's good for what I like to do with it.
The interface is pretty clumsy, but that really doesn't get in the way too badly.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142876</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266239460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you're missing what makes eBook readers good - it's not that they're a 'nostalgia gadget' it's that they have a passive display, like 'real' paper. PDAs capable of reading ebooks have been around for ages - 10 years back my Palm would do it just fine. The problem is with the display - an 'active' display is just harder on the eyes than a passive one. That's not something you can really address, just perhaps converge as tech gets better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 're missing what makes eBook readers good - it 's not that they 're a 'nostalgia gadget ' it 's that they have a passive display , like 'real ' paper .
PDAs capable of reading ebooks have been around for ages - 10 years back my Palm would do it just fine .
The problem is with the display - an 'active ' display is just harder on the eyes than a passive one .
That 's not something you can really address , just perhaps converge as tech gets better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you're missing what makes eBook readers good - it's not that they're a 'nostalgia gadget' it's that they have a passive display, like 'real' paper.
PDAs capable of reading ebooks have been around for ages - 10 years back my Palm would do it just fine.
The problem is with the display - an 'active' display is just harder on the eyes than a passive one.
That's not something you can really address, just perhaps converge as tech gets better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140572</id>
	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266167580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mod this guy up to 20, he hit the nail on the head.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod this guy up to 20 , he hit the nail on the head .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod this guy up to 20, he hit the nail on the head.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139242</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266156900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That sort of depends on your point of view.</p><p>The Kindle plus the Amazon service it comes with are certainly a very powerful team. You could even argue that it offers the best overall consumer experience.</p><p>However, there are any number of places where the service provided with the Kindle is unavailable, and the pricing on the new non US models isn't exactly attractive since it's based on international roaming from AT&amp;T. That's not even taking into account the fact that it isn't the most recent version of the hardware either.</p><p>Without that service, the Kindle is really a steaming pile of crap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That sort of depends on your point of view.The Kindle plus the Amazon service it comes with are certainly a very powerful team .
You could even argue that it offers the best overall consumer experience.However , there are any number of places where the service provided with the Kindle is unavailable , and the pricing on the new non US models is n't exactly attractive since it 's based on international roaming from AT&amp;T .
That 's not even taking into account the fact that it is n't the most recent version of the hardware either.Without that service , the Kindle is really a steaming pile of crap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That sort of depends on your point of view.The Kindle plus the Amazon service it comes with are certainly a very powerful team.
You could even argue that it offers the best overall consumer experience.However, there are any number of places where the service provided with the Kindle is unavailable, and the pricing on the new non US models isn't exactly attractive since it's based on international roaming from AT&amp;T.
That's not even taking into account the fact that it isn't the most recent version of the hardware either.Without that service, the Kindle is really a steaming pile of crap.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141722</id>
	<title>iPhone with Stanza</title>
	<author>Katchu</author>
	<datestamp>1266267120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use my iPhone with the free app Stanza. Tens of thousands eBooks available, there are free converters of all eBook formats available for your desktop, and Stanza uses a common format.
Plus: I use it in dark or dim lighting, so e-Ink isn't needed.
Minus: I does use battery power and there are limited charges on iPhone batteries, so e-Ink would be a benefit<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;^).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use my iPhone with the free app Stanza .
Tens of thousands eBooks available , there are free converters of all eBook formats available for your desktop , and Stanza uses a common format .
Plus : I use it in dark or dim lighting , so e-Ink is n't needed .
Minus : I does use battery power and there are limited charges on iPhone batteries , so e-Ink would be a benefit ; ^ ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use my iPhone with the free app Stanza.
Tens of thousands eBooks available, there are free converters of all eBook formats available for your desktop, and Stanza uses a common format.
Plus: I use it in dark or dim lighting, so e-Ink isn't needed.
Minus: I does use battery power and there are limited charges on iPhone batteries, so e-Ink would be a benefit ;^).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142172</id>
	<title>Bookeen Cybook Gen3</title>
	<author>janwedekind</author>
	<datestamp>1266230220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can recommend to check out the <a href="http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book\_Reader\_Matrix" title="mobileread.com">E-Book reader matrix</a> [mobileread.com]. Myself I bought a <a href="http://bookeen.com/specs/ebook-CybookGen3.aspx" title="bookeen.com">Bookeen Cybook Gen3</a> [bookeen.com]. The specification is similar to the well known Sony reader (800x600 resolution). In contrast to Sony they make the <a href="http://bookeen.com/support/ebook-downloads.aspx" title="bookeen.com">GPL source code of the non-proprietary parts available</a> [bookeen.com]. I didn't try to build from source though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can recommend to check out the E-Book reader matrix [ mobileread.com ] .
Myself I bought a Bookeen Cybook Gen3 [ bookeen.com ] .
The specification is similar to the well known Sony reader ( 800x600 resolution ) .
In contrast to Sony they make the GPL source code of the non-proprietary parts available [ bookeen.com ] .
I did n't try to build from source though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can recommend to check out the E-Book reader matrix [mobileread.com].
Myself I bought a Bookeen Cybook Gen3 [bookeen.com].
The specification is similar to the well known Sony reader (800x600 resolution).
In contrast to Sony they make the GPL source code of the non-proprietary parts available [bookeen.com].
I didn't try to build from source though.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138460</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle</title>
	<author>JavaBear</author>
	<datestamp>1266151620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am personally very happy with my Sony PRS-505, and are taking a really good look at their new 600. It's light, sturdy, and surprisingly DRM free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am personally very happy with my Sony PRS-505 , and are taking a really good look at their new 600 .
It 's light , sturdy , and surprisingly DRM free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am personally very happy with my Sony PRS-505, and are taking a really good look at their new 600.
It's light, sturdy, and surprisingly DRM free.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138706</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266153240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought the sony PRS 505 right after the whole thing with amazon deleting books off of kindles. My wife and I have both been very happy with it.  It reads everything we have tried.  It doesnt have mobile broadband, which would be nice.  But that has its drawbacks too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought the sony PRS 505 right after the whole thing with amazon deleting books off of kindles .
My wife and I have both been very happy with it .
It reads everything we have tried .
It doesnt have mobile broadband , which would be nice .
But that has its drawbacks too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought the sony PRS 505 right after the whole thing with amazon deleting books off of kindles.
My wife and I have both been very happy with it.
It reads everything we have tried.
It doesnt have mobile broadband, which would be nice.
But that has its drawbacks too.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138336</id>
	<title>The Book.</title>
	<author>Kenja</author>
	<datestamp>1266150840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Featuring an easy to learn lift and turn interface, people can pick up a Book and just start reading! And Book has been specifically designed to interoperate with your existing Shelves(tm).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Featuring an easy to learn lift and turn interface , people can pick up a Book and just start reading !
And Book has been specifically designed to interoperate with your existing Shelves ( tm ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Featuring an easy to learn lift and turn interface, people can pick up a Book and just start reading!
And Book has been specifically designed to interoperate with your existing Shelves(tm).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140410</id>
	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266166260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DRM is a serious issue... but so is theft.  The internet was created to easily share text, its perhaps 10x easier to pirate a non-DRM eText than an MP3<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the only thing stopping rampant piracy of ebooks is that no one wants to read a book on a computer monitor</p><p>With the rise of the ereader... book piracy is going to explode.  DRM is basically a MUST when it comes to eText</p><p>However, your point is ENTIRELY valid.  If you actually pay for the book you should have lifelong access to it, and shouldn't be crippled by only using a single piece of hardware (which may break) to read it.</p><p>I suggest that an international-government-sponsored agency handle the DRMing of eText so that the DRM isn't in the hands of corportations which<br>1) may go bankrupt thus causing customers to lose access to their books<br>2) are greedy and may intentionally force their consumers to repurchase their books (I had a bad experience with iTunes and DRMed music)</p><p>I suggest that this agency hold the DRM encryption along with the keys to the data.  It can ensure that an individual has lifelong access to the books that are purchased, and can ensure "fair-play" where media is not tied to a single piece of hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DRM is a serious issue... but so is theft .
The internet was created to easily share text , its perhaps 10x easier to pirate a non-DRM eText than an MP3 ... the only thing stopping rampant piracy of ebooks is that no one wants to read a book on a computer monitorWith the rise of the ereader... book piracy is going to explode .
DRM is basically a MUST when it comes to eTextHowever , your point is ENTIRELY valid .
If you actually pay for the book you should have lifelong access to it , and should n't be crippled by only using a single piece of hardware ( which may break ) to read it.I suggest that an international-government-sponsored agency handle the DRMing of eText so that the DRM is n't in the hands of corportations which1 ) may go bankrupt thus causing customers to lose access to their books2 ) are greedy and may intentionally force their consumers to repurchase their books ( I had a bad experience with iTunes and DRMed music ) I suggest that this agency hold the DRM encryption along with the keys to the data .
It can ensure that an individual has lifelong access to the books that are purchased , and can ensure " fair-play " where media is not tied to a single piece of hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DRM is a serious issue... but so is theft.
The internet was created to easily share text, its perhaps 10x easier to pirate a non-DRM eText than an MP3 ... the only thing stopping rampant piracy of ebooks is that no one wants to read a book on a computer monitorWith the rise of the ereader... book piracy is going to explode.
DRM is basically a MUST when it comes to eTextHowever, your point is ENTIRELY valid.
If you actually pay for the book you should have lifelong access to it, and shouldn't be crippled by only using a single piece of hardware (which may break) to read it.I suggest that an international-government-sponsored agency handle the DRMing of eText so that the DRM isn't in the hands of corportations which1) may go bankrupt thus causing customers to lose access to their books2) are greedy and may intentionally force their consumers to repurchase their books (I had a bad experience with iTunes and DRMed music)I suggest that this agency hold the DRM encryption along with the keys to the data.
It can ensure that an individual has lifelong access to the books that are purchased, and can ensure "fair-play" where media is not tied to a single piece of hardware.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141746</id>
	<title>Re:The Sony</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266267540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn&rsquo;t you all <em>swear</em> to boycott Sony, after the rootkit debacle?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Didn    t you all swear to boycott Sony , after the rootkit debacle ?
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn’t you all swear to boycott Sony, after the rootkit debacle?
;)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138322</id>
	<title>Re:iPad?</title>
	<author>dhickman</author>
	<datestamp>1266150780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What?  People on here will not consider a Kindle because it has drm in it but they will consider the iPad.<br> <br>  At least with my kindle, all i need to do to add third party books is hook the device to my computer and start copying, or surf to numerous sites on the net with the device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
People on here will not consider a Kindle because it has drm in it but they will consider the iPad .
At least with my kindle , all i need to do to add third party books is hook the device to my computer and start copying , or surf to numerous sites on the net with the device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
People on here will not consider a Kindle because it has drm in it but they will consider the iPad.
At least with my kindle, all i need to do to add third party books is hook the device to my computer and start copying, or surf to numerous sites on the net with the device.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138560</id>
	<title>Re:Unless you're in US the answer is NONE</title>
	<author>LordLucless</author>
	<datestamp>1266152220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or you could buy non-DRM encumbered books. Despite what some industries seem to think, just because something doesn't have DRM doesn't mean it's pirated.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or you could buy non-DRM encumbered books .
Despite what some industries seem to think , just because something does n't have DRM does n't mean it 's pirated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you could buy non-DRM encumbered books.
Despite what some industries seem to think, just because something doesn't have DRM doesn't mean it's pirated.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138484</id>
	<title>Cybook Opus</title>
	<author>mattbee</author>
	<datestamp>1266151800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought my dad a <a href="http://www.bookeen.com/specs/ebook-CybookOpus.aspx" title="bookeen.com">Cybook Opus</a> [bookeen.com] for Christmas - sturdy, simple, wasn't too expensive, just epub support, no ties to a publisher/DRM.  Not used it myself but Dad seems pretty happy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought my dad a Cybook Opus [ bookeen.com ] for Christmas - sturdy , simple , was n't too expensive , just epub support , no ties to a publisher/DRM .
Not used it myself but Dad seems pretty happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought my dad a Cybook Opus [bookeen.com] for Christmas - sturdy, simple, wasn't too expensive, just epub support, no ties to a publisher/DRM.
Not used it myself but Dad seems pretty happy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141970</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Sobrique</author>
	<datestamp>1266227160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It really isn't. There's a huge difference between active - LCD and passive e-Ink. <br> Not least that e-ink works in bright sunlight. <br>
I read a lot - hours a day - and I really do notice the difference.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It really is n't .
There 's a huge difference between active - LCD and passive e-Ink .
Not least that e-ink works in bright sunlight .
I read a lot - hours a day - and I really do notice the difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It really isn't.
There's a huge difference between active - LCD and passive e-Ink.
Not least that e-ink works in bright sunlight.
I read a lot - hours a day - and I really do notice the difference.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139692</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Draek</author>
	<datestamp>1266159960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pirate Bay is the best source for books? I don't think so. Project Gutenberg is the best source for books, unless you want technical manuals--then it depends upon what you need.</p> </div><p>Mildly off-topic, but for Project Gutenberg books I'd greatly recommend <a href="http://manybooks.net/" title="manybooks.net">ManyBooks.net</a> [manybooks.net], they have most of the PG books available in multiple formats (and I *do* mean multiple, check it out) and with user reviews to help you find the better ones.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pirate Bay is the best source for books ?
I do n't think so .
Project Gutenberg is the best source for books , unless you want technical manuals--then it depends upon what you need .
Mildly off-topic , but for Project Gutenberg books I 'd greatly recommend ManyBooks.net [ manybooks.net ] , they have most of the PG books available in multiple formats ( and I * do * mean multiple , check it out ) and with user reviews to help you find the better ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pirate Bay is the best source for books?
I don't think so.
Project Gutenberg is the best source for books, unless you want technical manuals--then it depends upon what you need.
Mildly off-topic, but for Project Gutenberg books I'd greatly recommend ManyBooks.net [manybooks.net], they have most of the PG books available in multiple formats (and I *do* mean multiple, check it out) and with user reviews to help you find the better ones.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31200250</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Insightfill</author>
	<datestamp>1266599760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Featuring an easy to learn lift and turn interface, people can pick up a Book and just start reading! And Book has been specifically designed to interoperate with your existing Shelves(tm).</p></div></blockquote><p>Ah, brings to mind the old Penny Arcade about the iPod from 2003.
<a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/5/28/" title="penny-arcade.com">http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/5/28/</a> [penny-arcade.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Featuring an easy to learn lift and turn interface , people can pick up a Book and just start reading !
And Book has been specifically designed to interoperate with your existing Shelves ( tm ) .Ah , brings to mind the old Penny Arcade about the iPod from 2003 . http : //www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/5/28/ [ penny-arcade.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Featuring an easy to learn lift and turn interface, people can pick up a Book and just start reading!
And Book has been specifically designed to interoperate with your existing Shelves(tm).Ah, brings to mind the old Penny Arcade about the iPod from 2003.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/5/28/ [penny-arcade.com]
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141134</id>
	<title>It's not actually an ebook reader, but</title>
	<author>func</author>
	<datestamp>1266173940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use my Iphone for reading most books these days.  Back in the day, I used to travel a lot for work, and usually had a stack of books on my crusty old palm pilot, which was nice for carrying around, especially since I used it for a lot of other things as well.</p><p>These days, I don't go anywhere without my phone, and I find the screen just fine for reading books.  A lot better than the old palm pilot.  Since I'm already carrying the phone, the e-reader is basically free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use my Iphone for reading most books these days .
Back in the day , I used to travel a lot for work , and usually had a stack of books on my crusty old palm pilot , which was nice for carrying around , especially since I used it for a lot of other things as well.These days , I do n't go anywhere without my phone , and I find the screen just fine for reading books .
A lot better than the old palm pilot .
Since I 'm already carrying the phone , the e-reader is basically free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use my Iphone for reading most books these days.
Back in the day, I used to travel a lot for work, and usually had a stack of books on my crusty old palm pilot, which was nice for carrying around, especially since I used it for a lot of other things as well.These days, I don't go anywhere without my phone, and I find the screen just fine for reading books.
A lot better than the old palm pilot.
Since I'm already carrying the phone, the e-reader is basically free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31221202</id>
	<title>Re:The entourage edge?</title>
	<author>reg13</author>
	<datestamp>1266785460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I ordered an edge. (I refuse to use their unconventional capitalization, though). I have a little extra cash from some consulting, and I shopped for a good six months. Far as I'm concerned, the price is reasonable (meaning I had enough) and the capabilities look good. I"ll let you all know what I think when mine arrives late March.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ordered an edge .
( I refuse to use their unconventional capitalization , though ) .
I have a little extra cash from some consulting , and I shopped for a good six months .
Far as I 'm concerned , the price is reasonable ( meaning I had enough ) and the capabilities look good .
I " ll let you all know what I think when mine arrives late March .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ordered an edge.
(I refuse to use their unconventional capitalization, though).
I have a little extra cash from some consulting, and I shopped for a good six months.
Far as I'm concerned, the price is reasonable (meaning I had enough) and the capabilities look good.
I"ll let you all know what I think when mine arrives late March.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142996</id>
	<title>Any MP3 Player</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1266241380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, that is what I use. Instead of listening to the radio and hear people blabber about nothing while I am on my way to work, I put a disc or SD card with audio books(s) on it and listen to that. Righ now I am listening to 'Red Planet'. Luckily many are available in MP3 now. LotR I had to put into 4 CDs (including one for The Hobbit) from 55 CDs. With my new radio I put them on a SD card. Mono in 64 bit is good enough as it is only speech.</p><p>If I travel by train or plane, I just put them on any MP3 player and can read the books I desire during my trip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , that is what I use .
Instead of listening to the radio and hear people blabber about nothing while I am on my way to work , I put a disc or SD card with audio books ( s ) on it and listen to that .
Righ now I am listening to 'Red Planet' .
Luckily many are available in MP3 now .
LotR I had to put into 4 CDs ( including one for The Hobbit ) from 55 CDs .
With my new radio I put them on a SD card .
Mono in 64 bit is good enough as it is only speech.If I travel by train or plane , I just put them on any MP3 player and can read the books I desire during my trip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, that is what I use.
Instead of listening to the radio and hear people blabber about nothing while I am on my way to work, I put a disc or SD card with audio books(s) on it and listen to that.
Righ now I am listening to 'Red Planet'.
Luckily many are available in MP3 now.
LotR I had to put into 4 CDs (including one for The Hobbit) from 55 CDs.
With my new radio I put them on a SD card.
Mono in 64 bit is good enough as it is only speech.If I travel by train or plane, I just put them on any MP3 player and can read the books I desire during my trip.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138128</id>
	<title>Answer:</title>
	<author>Ethanol-fueled</author>
	<datestamp>1266149580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>A laptop.<br> <br>

Reads all file formats, browses the internet at hot-spots or anywhere with add-ons, variable brightness, 32-bit color, access to free bookstores (The Pirate Bay being the most popular free store) and much more functionality that one couldn't eke out of small overpriced pieces of shit like the Kindle or -- ha HA! -- the iPad.<br> <br>

And yes, laptops <i>do</i> run Linux</htmltext>
<tokenext>A laptop .
Reads all file formats , browses the internet at hot-spots or anywhere with add-ons , variable brightness , 32-bit color , access to free bookstores ( The Pirate Bay being the most popular free store ) and much more functionality that one could n't eke out of small overpriced pieces of shit like the Kindle or -- ha HA !
-- the iPad .
And yes , laptops do run Linux</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A laptop.
Reads all file formats, browses the internet at hot-spots or anywhere with add-ons, variable brightness, 32-bit color, access to free bookstores (The Pirate Bay being the most popular free store) and much more functionality that one couldn't eke out of small overpriced pieces of shit like the Kindle or -- ha HA!
-- the iPad.
And yes, laptops do run Linux</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31150846</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>innocent\_white\_lamb</author>
	<datestamp>1266241140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have considered getting a big-screen television for book reading, but haven't heard of anyone actually doing it.<br>
&nbsp; <br>You could hook your computer up to the TV and use a joystick or something to turn the pages, then sit back in your easy chair and read with any font size you want and without having to hold the book in your hands.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Is there anything that I'm missing in this scenario that would make it not work well?<br>
&nbsp; <br>I don't watch television so the only reason for getting a setup like that would be for reading books...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have considered getting a big-screen television for book reading , but have n't heard of anyone actually doing it .
  You could hook your computer up to the TV and use a joystick or something to turn the pages , then sit back in your easy chair and read with any font size you want and without having to hold the book in your hands .
  Is there anything that I 'm missing in this scenario that would make it not work well ?
  I do n't watch television so the only reason for getting a setup like that would be for reading books.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have considered getting a big-screen television for book reading, but haven't heard of anyone actually doing it.
  You could hook your computer up to the TV and use a joystick or something to turn the pages, then sit back in your easy chair and read with any font size you want and without having to hold the book in your hands.
  Is there anything that I'm missing in this scenario that would make it not work well?
  I don't watch television so the only reason for getting a setup like that would be for reading books...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141144</id>
	<title>Worthless answer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266174060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Q: What's the best bicycle?<br>
A: A car.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Q : What 's the best bicycle ?
A : A car .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Q: What's the best bicycle?
A: A car.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138616</id>
	<title>Sony E-Readers</title>
	<author>CyradisNYC</author>
	<datestamp>1266152520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have the Sony Touch 6" model, and while it definitely has its limitations, I don't understand why it isn't taken more seriously. (IE, all I ever hear about are the Kindle, the Nook, and the iPad.) It allows the most freedom in terms of format and purchasing--it does not require DRM. New books (not in the public domain) from the Sony bookstore have DRM, but you don't have to buy something from the Sony Bookstore. I can shop somewhere else, download from Google Books, or fill it up with research PDFs. As long as it's in ePub, PDF, TXT, rich text, or BBeB I'm good. Because there are multiple places I can go to in addition to Sony's Reader Store (Kobo, Fictionwise, etc) there's no problem if one store gets in a spat with a publisher. I can go to another store that isn't fighting with them. Also, and importantly in my view, Sony is not tracking what I put on the e-reader. (The big exception is again things purchased through the Sony Reader Store--which I don't really use.) There won't be any instances like Amazon's deletion of 1984, because the Sony software is set up to not have this kind of interface with its store. While e-readers have a long way to go, this was a good investment for me because I travel for work a lot. If you think it's worth it right now (for me it was), look at the Sony models. They're the most flexible available made by a reputable company. That said, I'm hoping the technology moves along quickly as it'd be nice to have color in something smaller than an iPad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the Sony Touch 6 " model , and while it definitely has its limitations , I do n't understand why it is n't taken more seriously .
( IE , all I ever hear about are the Kindle , the Nook , and the iPad .
) It allows the most freedom in terms of format and purchasing--it does not require DRM .
New books ( not in the public domain ) from the Sony bookstore have DRM , but you do n't have to buy something from the Sony Bookstore .
I can shop somewhere else , download from Google Books , or fill it up with research PDFs .
As long as it 's in ePub , PDF , TXT , rich text , or BBeB I 'm good .
Because there are multiple places I can go to in addition to Sony 's Reader Store ( Kobo , Fictionwise , etc ) there 's no problem if one store gets in a spat with a publisher .
I can go to another store that is n't fighting with them .
Also , and importantly in my view , Sony is not tracking what I put on the e-reader .
( The big exception is again things purchased through the Sony Reader Store--which I do n't really use .
) There wo n't be any instances like Amazon 's deletion of 1984 , because the Sony software is set up to not have this kind of interface with its store .
While e-readers have a long way to go , this was a good investment for me because I travel for work a lot .
If you think it 's worth it right now ( for me it was ) , look at the Sony models .
They 're the most flexible available made by a reputable company .
That said , I 'm hoping the technology moves along quickly as it 'd be nice to have color in something smaller than an iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the Sony Touch 6" model, and while it definitely has its limitations, I don't understand why it isn't taken more seriously.
(IE, all I ever hear about are the Kindle, the Nook, and the iPad.
) It allows the most freedom in terms of format and purchasing--it does not require DRM.
New books (not in the public domain) from the Sony bookstore have DRM, but you don't have to buy something from the Sony Bookstore.
I can shop somewhere else, download from Google Books, or fill it up with research PDFs.
As long as it's in ePub, PDF, TXT, rich text, or BBeB I'm good.
Because there are multiple places I can go to in addition to Sony's Reader Store (Kobo, Fictionwise, etc) there's no problem if one store gets in a spat with a publisher.
I can go to another store that isn't fighting with them.
Also, and importantly in my view, Sony is not tracking what I put on the e-reader.
(The big exception is again things purchased through the Sony Reader Store--which I don't really use.
) There won't be any instances like Amazon's deletion of 1984, because the Sony software is set up to not have this kind of interface with its store.
While e-readers have a long way to go, this was a good investment for me because I travel for work a lot.
If you think it's worth it right now (for me it was), look at the Sony models.
They're the most flexible available made by a reputable company.
That said, I'm hoping the technology moves along quickly as it'd be nice to have color in something smaller than an iPad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143274</id>
	<title>Not quite there yet for technical books</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266244560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have switched to buying all my technical books as ebooks only (lack of storage space and need for Ctrl-F). So far I have found everything I wanted without DRM, or breakable. I really liked the watermark approach that InformIT used for one book: Each page says "From the Library of &lt;MY NAME&gt;". Excellent solution because I do not intend to illegally distribute my ebooks, but I want to use them freely on different devices.</p><p>I use Amazon to evaluate the books and buy somewhere else. InformIT, O'Reilly, Apress and eBooks.com have served me well.</p><p>As for the E-Reader itself, I tried a Sony with touchscreen in a shop and liked it. Good choice for novels. But I need a 10" screen and possibly color for technical books with illustrations. These look promisiing:</p><p><a href="http://www.entourageedge.com/" title="entourageedge.com" rel="nofollow">enTourage eDGe</a> [entourageedge.com] (love the concept, and this is very close to actual shipping)</p><p><a href="http://www.notionink.in/" title="notionink.in" rel="nofollow">NotionInk ADAM</a> [notionink.in]</p><p><a href="http://www.plasticlogic.com/ereader/index.php" title="plasticlogic.com" rel="nofollow">PLASTIC LOGIC QUE</a> [plasticlogic.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.skiff.com//skiff-reader.html" title="skiff.com" rel="nofollow">Skiff Reader</a> [skiff.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.thecopia.com/ereader.html" title="thecopia.com" rel="nofollow">Copia</a> [thecopia.com]</p><p>ASUS DR-950</p><p>Samsung E101</p><p>Kindle DX: Can only be considered when it comes with first class PDF capabilities and when I can copy files back and forth via USB (maybe you can?).</p><p>Apple iPad: If I can easily use my PDF and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.prc files with it, it is worth considering. Did this thing actually ship by now??</p><p>Microsoft Courier: Twice 7" would be to small. If it has the format of the enTourage eDGe it might be worth a look. Microsoft is quite good at making hardware<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have switched to buying all my technical books as ebooks only ( lack of storage space and need for Ctrl-F ) .
So far I have found everything I wanted without DRM , or breakable .
I really liked the watermark approach that InformIT used for one book : Each page says " From the Library of " .
Excellent solution because I do not intend to illegally distribute my ebooks , but I want to use them freely on different devices.I use Amazon to evaluate the books and buy somewhere else .
InformIT , O'Reilly , Apress and eBooks.com have served me well.As for the E-Reader itself , I tried a Sony with touchscreen in a shop and liked it .
Good choice for novels .
But I need a 10 " screen and possibly color for technical books with illustrations .
These look promisiing : enTourage eDGe [ entourageedge.com ] ( love the concept , and this is very close to actual shipping ) NotionInk ADAM [ notionink.in ] PLASTIC LOGIC QUE [ plasticlogic.com ] Skiff Reader [ skiff.com ] Copia [ thecopia.com ] ASUS DR-950Samsung E101Kindle DX : Can only be considered when it comes with first class PDF capabilities and when I can copy files back and forth via USB ( maybe you can ?
) .Apple iPad : If I can easily use my PDF and .prc files with it , it is worth considering .
Did this thing actually ship by now ?
? Microsoft Courier : Twice 7 " would be to small .
If it has the format of the enTourage eDGe it might be worth a look .
Microsoft is quite good at making hardware : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have switched to buying all my technical books as ebooks only (lack of storage space and need for Ctrl-F).
So far I have found everything I wanted without DRM, or breakable.
I really liked the watermark approach that InformIT used for one book: Each page says "From the Library of ".
Excellent solution because I do not intend to illegally distribute my ebooks, but I want to use them freely on different devices.I use Amazon to evaluate the books and buy somewhere else.
InformIT, O'Reilly, Apress and eBooks.com have served me well.As for the E-Reader itself, I tried a Sony with touchscreen in a shop and liked it.
Good choice for novels.
But I need a 10" screen and possibly color for technical books with illustrations.
These look promisiing:enTourage eDGe [entourageedge.com] (love the concept, and this is very close to actual shipping)NotionInk ADAM [notionink.in]PLASTIC LOGIC QUE [plasticlogic.com]Skiff Reader [skiff.com]Copia [thecopia.com]ASUS DR-950Samsung E101Kindle DX: Can only be considered when it comes with first class PDF capabilities and when I can copy files back and forth via USB (maybe you can?
).Apple iPad: If I can easily use my PDF and .prc files with it, it is worth considering.
Did this thing actually ship by now?
?Microsoft Courier: Twice 7" would be to small.
If it has the format of the enTourage eDGe it might be worth a look.
Microsoft is quite good at making hardware :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138580</id>
	<title>You take your shelves with you on the bus?</title>
	<author>Rix</author>
	<datestamp>1266152340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That must be a real nuisance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That must be a real nuisance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That must be a real nuisance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139300</id>
	<title>Re:The Sony</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266157200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Highly agreed. I have a 500 and my wife owns a 505.</p><p>Here's the thing tho, it all depends on your level of technical ability. If you're a Luddite the Kindle is the way to go. The ability to easily purchase content and have everything "just work" is great. But you pay for the ease of use with DRM (yes you can use non-DRM content, but then you're leaving behind the one benefit (ease of use).</p><p>Since this is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. I assume you're of the more technical readers. In which case you don't need the "click buy download" ease of use of the Kindle and in exchange you get much wider format support, better OS support, and a smaller form factor. Actually the new smaller Sony's are kind of cool too, and you can throw it in a jacket pocket.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Highly agreed .
I have a 500 and my wife owns a 505.Here 's the thing tho , it all depends on your level of technical ability .
If you 're a Luddite the Kindle is the way to go .
The ability to easily purchase content and have everything " just work " is great .
But you pay for the ease of use with DRM ( yes you can use non-DRM content , but then you 're leaving behind the one benefit ( ease of use ) .Since this is / .
I assume you 're of the more technical readers .
In which case you do n't need the " click buy download " ease of use of the Kindle and in exchange you get much wider format support , better OS support , and a smaller form factor .
Actually the new smaller Sony 's are kind of cool too , and you can throw it in a jacket pocket .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Highly agreed.
I have a 500 and my wife owns a 505.Here's the thing tho, it all depends on your level of technical ability.
If you're a Luddite the Kindle is the way to go.
The ability to easily purchase content and have everything "just work" is great.
But you pay for the ease of use with DRM (yes you can use non-DRM content, but then you're leaving behind the one benefit (ease of use).Since this is /.
I assume you're of the more technical readers.
In which case you don't need the "click buy download" ease of use of the Kindle and in exchange you get much wider format support, better OS support, and a smaller form factor.
Actually the new smaller Sony's are kind of cool too, and you can throw it in a jacket pocket.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140212</id>
	<title>Searching &amp; Indexing Capabilities</title>
	<author>dbuttric</author>
	<datestamp>1266164340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anyone have any experience with the searching and indexing capabilities in these devices?</p><p>I want to store my technical library in one of these, but have been resistant to switch, because I want searching and indexing that allows me to use this device as a decent replacement for that 'Technical Library Search' usecase, where someone asks some questions, and I can use this device to do one search and have the results, across all the documents that i have stored, displayed in a results list. for easy access.</p><p>Does anyone have any experience with these functions in a variety of readers?</p><p>Thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone have any experience with the searching and indexing capabilities in these devices ? I want to store my technical library in one of these , but have been resistant to switch , because I want searching and indexing that allows me to use this device as a decent replacement for that 'Technical Library Search ' usecase , where someone asks some questions , and I can use this device to do one search and have the results , across all the documents that i have stored , displayed in a results list .
for easy access.Does anyone have any experience with these functions in a variety of readers ? Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone have any experience with the searching and indexing capabilities in these devices?I want to store my technical library in one of these, but have been resistant to switch, because I want searching and indexing that allows me to use this device as a decent replacement for that 'Technical Library Search' usecase, where someone asks some questions, and I can use this device to do one search and have the results, across all the documents that i have stored, displayed in a results list.
for easy access.Does anyone have any experience with these functions in a variety of readers?Thanks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138432</id>
	<title>iPod Touch...</title>
	<author>Craig.Engbrecht</author>
	<datestamp>1266151560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can be good if you have good eyes for reading 6-8pt fonts...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P Works for me anyway...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can be good if you have good eyes for reading 6-8pt fonts... : P Works for me anyway.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can be good if you have good eyes for reading 6-8pt fonts... :P Works for me anyway...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139200</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong question</title>
	<author>OttoErotic</author>
	<datestamp>1266156660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think that dedicated ereaders will turn out to be a dead-end technology like mini-discs and that this is one of those "back in my day" moments: this generation (myself included) are still emotionally invested in traditional presentations of text, so ereaders that mimic books to some degree seem like the natural way to go; the same way my parents still prefer physical media for audio and video.  Once the next generation grows up primarily with ebooks, the need for this in-between, pseudo-traditional technology will fade.  I love books, but my library gathers dust now while I do all my reading on my (small screen) Blackberry.  Plenty of people "can't understand how you can read on that tiny thing" but it's perfect for me: backlight means I can read in the dark without a lamp; adjustable text size and color; quick bookmarking and annotating; and smaller chunks of text mean that I actually read more, as I've started sneaking in a page or two during what used to be dead-time.  Not perfect for everyone, but it's been enough to prove to me that there's nothing sacred in a 6"x8" sheet of text.<br> <br>
The big thing I'm waiting for now is an open, standard format that combines media-types.  I would kill for an ebook/audiobook combo where I could bookmark what I'm reading, plug my phone into my stereo, and have the audiobook pick up at that bookmark for my drive home.  Hell, why not video too?  You read halfway through the battle of Helm's Deep, hear the rest on audio during your drive, and see the battle scene from the movie when you get home.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that dedicated ereaders will turn out to be a dead-end technology like mini-discs and that this is one of those " back in my day " moments : this generation ( myself included ) are still emotionally invested in traditional presentations of text , so ereaders that mimic books to some degree seem like the natural way to go ; the same way my parents still prefer physical media for audio and video .
Once the next generation grows up primarily with ebooks , the need for this in-between , pseudo-traditional technology will fade .
I love books , but my library gathers dust now while I do all my reading on my ( small screen ) Blackberry .
Plenty of people " ca n't understand how you can read on that tiny thing " but it 's perfect for me : backlight means I can read in the dark without a lamp ; adjustable text size and color ; quick bookmarking and annotating ; and smaller chunks of text mean that I actually read more , as I 've started sneaking in a page or two during what used to be dead-time .
Not perfect for everyone , but it 's been enough to prove to me that there 's nothing sacred in a 6 " x8 " sheet of text .
The big thing I 'm waiting for now is an open , standard format that combines media-types .
I would kill for an ebook/audiobook combo where I could bookmark what I 'm reading , plug my phone into my stereo , and have the audiobook pick up at that bookmark for my drive home .
Hell , why not video too ?
You read halfway through the battle of Helm 's Deep , hear the rest on audio during your drive , and see the battle scene from the movie when you get home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that dedicated ereaders will turn out to be a dead-end technology like mini-discs and that this is one of those "back in my day" moments: this generation (myself included) are still emotionally invested in traditional presentations of text, so ereaders that mimic books to some degree seem like the natural way to go; the same way my parents still prefer physical media for audio and video.
Once the next generation grows up primarily with ebooks, the need for this in-between, pseudo-traditional technology will fade.
I love books, but my library gathers dust now while I do all my reading on my (small screen) Blackberry.
Plenty of people "can't understand how you can read on that tiny thing" but it's perfect for me: backlight means I can read in the dark without a lamp; adjustable text size and color; quick bookmarking and annotating; and smaller chunks of text mean that I actually read more, as I've started sneaking in a page or two during what used to be dead-time.
Not perfect for everyone, but it's been enough to prove to me that there's nothing sacred in a 6"x8" sheet of text.
The big thing I'm waiting for now is an open, standard format that combines media-types.
I would kill for an ebook/audiobook combo where I could bookmark what I'm reading, plug my phone into my stereo, and have the audiobook pick up at that bookmark for my drive home.
Hell, why not video too?
You read halfway through the battle of Helm's Deep, hear the rest on audio during your drive, and see the battle scene from the movie when you get home.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139238</id>
	<title>OLPC?</title>
	<author>RoboRay</author>
	<datestamp>1266156840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When away from the house, I read on my OLPC XO running Ubuntu 8.10 with FBReader.  I have Calibre on my desktop to convert anything FBReader can't handle into MOBI files that also work on my wife's 1st generation Kindle.</p><p>Yeah, it's not for everyone, requires a little hacking, and good luck finding one, but the dual-mode screen is great for reading outdoors, even in direct sunlight.  It's also tough enough that I can take it anywhere without worrying about it and can charge it from almost any power source.</p><p>When I'm at home, I mostly read on paper.  Call me old-fashioned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When away from the house , I read on my OLPC XO running Ubuntu 8.10 with FBReader .
I have Calibre on my desktop to convert anything FBReader ca n't handle into MOBI files that also work on my wife 's 1st generation Kindle.Yeah , it 's not for everyone , requires a little hacking , and good luck finding one , but the dual-mode screen is great for reading outdoors , even in direct sunlight .
It 's also tough enough that I can take it anywhere without worrying about it and can charge it from almost any power source.When I 'm at home , I mostly read on paper .
Call me old-fashioned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When away from the house, I read on my OLPC XO running Ubuntu 8.10 with FBReader.
I have Calibre on my desktop to convert anything FBReader can't handle into MOBI files that also work on my wife's 1st generation Kindle.Yeah, it's not for everyone, requires a little hacking, and good luck finding one, but the dual-mode screen is great for reading outdoors, even in direct sunlight.
It's also tough enough that I can take it anywhere without worrying about it and can charge it from almost any power source.When I'm at home, I mostly read on paper.
Call me old-fashioned.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138148</id>
	<title>iPad?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266149700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, it's too early to say, of course, but the iPad looks like it might actually have potential.  I have never purchased an e-reader before as I have always preferred books, and the quality of ereaders was just never good enough for me.  This is the first product I might actually give a chance.  Of course, the fact that it's more of a general purpose tool and not *just* for reading ebooks makes it much more useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , it 's too early to say , of course , but the iPad looks like it might actually have potential .
I have never purchased an e-reader before as I have always preferred books , and the quality of ereaders was just never good enough for me .
This is the first product I might actually give a chance .
Of course , the fact that it 's more of a general purpose tool and not * just * for reading ebooks makes it much more useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, it's too early to say, of course, but the iPad looks like it might actually have potential.
I have never purchased an e-reader before as I have always preferred books, and the quality of ereaders was just never good enough for me.
This is the first product I might actually give a chance.
Of course, the fact that it's more of a general purpose tool and not *just* for reading ebooks makes it much more useful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142752</id>
	<title>Netbook</title>
	<author>AVryhof</author>
	<datestamp>1266238020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was going to buy a Sony eBook reader last year, then noticed the eee 900 sitting next to it for $50 more.  I love my netbook, but might still buy a Sony just because the e-ink is supposed to be gentler on the eyes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was going to buy a Sony eBook reader last year , then noticed the eee 900 sitting next to it for $ 50 more .
I love my netbook , but might still buy a Sony just because the e-ink is supposed to be gentler on the eyes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was going to buy a Sony eBook reader last year, then noticed the eee 900 sitting next to it for $50 more.
I love my netbook, but might still buy a Sony just because the e-ink is supposed to be gentler on the eyes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31153324</id>
	<title>Re:The Sony</title>
	<author>MrBigInThePants</author>
	<datestamp>1266312960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought one (Touch 600 model) for xmas and it is AMAZING. Totally changed the way and amount I read books. Handles a large number of formats etc.</p><p>The only thing that annoys me is the way the desktop software works. Very unintuitive and frustrating...especially grouping large numbers of books.</p><p>Fortunately it is something they can FIX (you hear me Sony, do ya?!) without me having to buy a new one. Better yet they can release a spec and OS can fix it for them.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought one ( Touch 600 model ) for xmas and it is AMAZING .
Totally changed the way and amount I read books .
Handles a large number of formats etc.The only thing that annoys me is the way the desktop software works .
Very unintuitive and frustrating...especially grouping large numbers of books.Fortunately it is something they can FIX ( you hear me Sony , do ya ? !
) without me having to buy a new one .
Better yet they can release a spec and OS can fix it for them .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought one (Touch 600 model) for xmas and it is AMAZING.
Totally changed the way and amount I read books.
Handles a large number of formats etc.The only thing that annoys me is the way the desktop software works.
Very unintuitive and frustrating...especially grouping large numbers of books.Fortunately it is something they can FIX (you hear me Sony, do ya?!
) without me having to buy a new one.
Better yet they can release a spec and OS can fix it for them.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31145884</id>
	<title>best?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266258300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The s-slick had some problerms when it came out with battery charging.  Presumably they fixed that, but I never bothered to  check.</p><p>The Astak EZ-Reader is really a Hanlin v3 and can run openinkpot, not sure about the 5" one but is new but presumably the same as the 6" one with a 5" screen.</p><p>The Sony pocket...</p><p>Anyways, nook seems to have the best features for the price ATM.  The Cybook is just grossly overpriced, while the rest are pushing it since they offer fewer features than the Nook.  Most lack WiFi and that handy touch screen at the bottom</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The s-slick had some problerms when it came out with battery charging .
Presumably they fixed that , but I never bothered to check.The Astak EZ-Reader is really a Hanlin v3 and can run openinkpot , not sure about the 5 " one but is new but presumably the same as the 6 " one with a 5 " screen.The Sony pocket...Anyways , nook seems to have the best features for the price ATM .
The Cybook is just grossly overpriced , while the rest are pushing it since they offer fewer features than the Nook .
Most lack WiFi and that handy touch screen at the bottom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The s-slick had some problerms when it came out with battery charging.
Presumably they fixed that, but I never bothered to  check.The Astak EZ-Reader is really a Hanlin v3 and can run openinkpot, not sure about the 5" one but is new but presumably the same as the 6" one with a 5" screen.The Sony pocket...Anyways, nook seems to have the best features for the price ATM.
The Cybook is just grossly overpriced, while the rest are pushing it since they offer fewer features than the Nook.
Most lack WiFi and that handy touch screen at the bottom</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138306</id>
	<title>Stanza for the iphone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266150600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(Managable) DRM issues asside, Stanza for the iphone is an excellent reader if you already have an iphone, and don't want to splash out for a dedicated reader.<br>The screen is easy to read, books are easy to source and it's free =)</p><p>For the PocketPC - ubook is one of the better ones out there.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( Managable ) DRM issues asside , Stanza for the iphone is an excellent reader if you already have an iphone , and do n't want to splash out for a dedicated reader.The screen is easy to read , books are easy to source and it 's free = ) For the PocketPC - ubook is one of the better ones out there .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>(Managable) DRM issues asside, Stanza for the iphone is an excellent reader if you already have an iphone, and don't want to splash out for a dedicated reader.The screen is easy to read, books are easy to source and it's free =)For the PocketPC - ubook is one of the better ones out there.
 </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140292</id>
	<title>Re:The Skiff looks nice, except for who controls i</title>
	<author>masmullin</author>
	<datestamp>1266165240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPad 2.0 which I expect to have a reflective screen option (re: Pixel Qi like tech) will be an amazing device.  It will be a serious eReader with this tech.</p><p>right now the iPad is a great "portable internet" but a poor ereader.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad 2.0 which I expect to have a reflective screen option ( re : Pixel Qi like tech ) will be an amazing device .
It will be a serious eReader with this tech.right now the iPad is a great " portable internet " but a poor ereader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad 2.0 which I expect to have a reflective screen option (re: Pixel Qi like tech) will be an amazing device.
It will be a serious eReader with this tech.right now the iPad is a great "portable internet" but a poor ereader.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31146512</id>
	<title>Re:It hasn't been invented yet.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266261480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should probably hold your breath for a bit...  Your suggested device won't exist for the foreseeable future, because it wouldn't sell, and can't be made at your price point.</p><p>The 8.5 x 11 is the main reason.  So few people would want a device so large, it wouldn't be profitable to create.  Maybe if it got mandated into an educational curriculum first, that could be leveraged to make it available to consumers.  Still, even it that case, likely couldn't reach your price point.</p><p>Color e-ink, maybe eventually, but cost on that will stop it from reaching your price point for the foreseeable future, also, especially if you combine it into the larger screen size.</p><p>Aside from those two points, your device already exists, it's called the nook.  You might say it's not as durable as you request, but if you put a good cover over it, it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should probably hold your breath for a bit... Your suggested device wo n't exist for the foreseeable future , because it would n't sell , and ca n't be made at your price point.The 8.5 x 11 is the main reason .
So few people would want a device so large , it would n't be profitable to create .
Maybe if it got mandated into an educational curriculum first , that could be leveraged to make it available to consumers .
Still , even it that case , likely could n't reach your price point.Color e-ink , maybe eventually , but cost on that will stop it from reaching your price point for the foreseeable future , also , especially if you combine it into the larger screen size.Aside from those two points , your device already exists , it 's called the nook .
You might say it 's not as durable as you request , but if you put a good cover over it , it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should probably hold your breath for a bit...  Your suggested device won't exist for the foreseeable future, because it wouldn't sell, and can't be made at your price point.The 8.5 x 11 is the main reason.
So few people would want a device so large, it wouldn't be profitable to create.
Maybe if it got mandated into an educational curriculum first, that could be leveraged to make it available to consumers.
Still, even it that case, likely couldn't reach your price point.Color e-ink, maybe eventually, but cost on that will stop it from reaching your price point for the foreseeable future, also, especially if you combine it into the larger screen size.Aside from those two points, your device already exists, it's called the nook.
You might say it's not as durable as you request, but if you put a good cover over it, it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31152344</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Robotech\_Master</author>
	<datestamp>1266257580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do realize that PG hasn't been ASCII-only for several years now, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do realize that PG has n't been ASCII-only for several years now , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do realize that PG hasn't been ASCII-only for several years now, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142248</id>
	<title>Re:It hasn't been invented yet.</title>
	<author>MrMista\_B</author>
	<datestamp>1266231000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here: <a href="http://www.apple.com/ipad/" title="apple.com">http://www.apple.com/ipad/</a> [apple.com]</p><p>It's as close as you're gonna get right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here : http : //www.apple.com/ipad/ [ apple.com ] It 's as close as you 're gon na get right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here: http://www.apple.com/ipad/ [apple.com]It's as close as you're gonna get right now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138690</id>
	<title>The most open/least crippled &amp; versatile..</title>
	<author>Paracelcus</author>
	<datestamp>1266153120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IMHO, is the Aztak EZReader Pocket Pro 5" with the Ectaco Jet Book Lite as a follow up.</p><p>The Kindle is an expensive way to get locked in to a single vendor, as is the Nook.<br>The Sony is crippled by very restrictive DRM.<br>WiFi/Wimax is very tough on batteries and unnecessary to the functioning of an ebook reader.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IMHO , is the Aztak EZReader Pocket Pro 5 " with the Ectaco Jet Book Lite as a follow up.The Kindle is an expensive way to get locked in to a single vendor , as is the Nook.The Sony is crippled by very restrictive DRM.WiFi/Wimax is very tough on batteries and unnecessary to the functioning of an ebook reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IMHO, is the Aztak EZReader Pocket Pro 5" with the Ectaco Jet Book Lite as a follow up.The Kindle is an expensive way to get locked in to a single vendor, as is the Nook.The Sony is crippled by very restrictive DRM.WiFi/Wimax is very tough on batteries and unnecessary to the functioning of an ebook reader.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141808</id>
	<title>Re:Define "best"</title>
	<author>obarthelemy</author>
	<datestamp>1266225240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DRM also has a strong impact on the "portability" argument. How portable will your CDs be, if you MUST use reader X from company Y using DRM Z to read them ? How sure are you that 5, 10 years down the line, those 3 will not only still exist, but be competitive ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DRM also has a strong impact on the " portability " argument .
How portable will your CDs be , if you MUST use reader X from company Y using DRM Z to read them ?
How sure are you that 5 , 10 years down the line , those 3 will not only still exist , but be competitive ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DRM also has a strong impact on the "portability" argument.
How portable will your CDs be, if you MUST use reader X from company Y using DRM Z to read them ?
How sure are you that 5, 10 years down the line, those 3 will not only still exist, but be competitive ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138936</id>
	<title>I just bought my wife a nook...</title>
	<author>plazman30</author>
	<datestamp>1266154740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought the nook had the best set of features.  It's backed by a large bookstore that can negotiate decent ebook pricing.  It has wifi and 3G connectivity.  It comes with an SD slot for memory expansion.  And it also supports PDF and ePub, so you could easily roll your own eBooks or download public domain ones from Google Books.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought the nook had the best set of features .
It 's backed by a large bookstore that can negotiate decent ebook pricing .
It has wifi and 3G connectivity .
It comes with an SD slot for memory expansion .
And it also supports PDF and ePub , so you could easily roll your own eBooks or download public domain ones from Google Books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought the nook had the best set of features.
It's backed by a large bookstore that can negotiate decent ebook pricing.
It has wifi and 3G connectivity.
It comes with an SD slot for memory expansion.
And it also supports PDF and ePub, so you could easily roll your own eBooks or download public domain ones from Google Books.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142654</id>
	<title>Different use cases</title>
	<author>Stray7Xi</author>
	<datestamp>1266236880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It all depends on intended use case.  I find eInk makes a much more comfortable and enjoyable read.  Smart Phones are perfectly acceptable for some cases.  The biggest factor is how long are your reading sessions.  Remember all the ebook readers support drm-free books, they just don't sell them that way.  I'll break down common use patterns for electronic reading.</p><p>Commuter: If you're on the subway, your short read means eye-strain is less of an issue.  Plenty of lighting so any screen is fine.  Battery usage is irrelevant.  You'll likely have a bag so the extra device doesn't matter.  It's a toss-up, I'd personally lean towards eInk since it's more comfortable.  I think the kindle for it's blog support is best in this case (the nook probably has a hack to do this).</p><p>Traveler: You could be reading for 6 hours on a flight, you'll want the eInk.  Battery usage is also important.  You'll have a bag and plenty of lighting.  Definitely use an ebook reader.  No wireless on plane so books will have to be preloaded, any of ereaders are fine.  If international you'll want an ebook reader with wifi (nook).</p><p>Opportunity reading: smart phone wins hand down.  It will be with you when you're stuck by chance waiting for an hour.</p><p>Home reading: Long reads with lighting.  eInk will provide ideal reading experience.  Any ebook reader is fine since other capabilities don't matter much since presumably you'll have a computer nearby (no need to play mp3's are look up wikipedia on kindle).</p><p>Bed reading: Short reading in low light, smart phone is better.  eInk will need a light.</p><p>Classroom: Use the textbook.  Neither smart phones nor readers can display large graphs.  Readers also can't do color figures.  Absent of those restrictions the search, annotations and note-taking (not your classnotes!) features are nice.  I think it'd be hard to follow along with a small screen of a smart phone.  But if you want to take classnotes you'll need old-fashioned pen and paper or a netbook.</p><p>Reference Library:  Similar restrictions to classroom but allows you to take your whole reference library which you can't just do with textbooks.  May need to use phone and reader at same time.  Larger screen and easy operation might be a plus.  Depends on whether you need your library when you're unprepared like unexpectedly helping a friend (use smart phone) or you are prepared like going to a conference (use a reader, preferably a kindle DX for large screen and better PDF support).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It all depends on intended use case .
I find eInk makes a much more comfortable and enjoyable read .
Smart Phones are perfectly acceptable for some cases .
The biggest factor is how long are your reading sessions .
Remember all the ebook readers support drm-free books , they just do n't sell them that way .
I 'll break down common use patterns for electronic reading.Commuter : If you 're on the subway , your short read means eye-strain is less of an issue .
Plenty of lighting so any screen is fine .
Battery usage is irrelevant .
You 'll likely have a bag so the extra device does n't matter .
It 's a toss-up , I 'd personally lean towards eInk since it 's more comfortable .
I think the kindle for it 's blog support is best in this case ( the nook probably has a hack to do this ) .Traveler : You could be reading for 6 hours on a flight , you 'll want the eInk .
Battery usage is also important .
You 'll have a bag and plenty of lighting .
Definitely use an ebook reader .
No wireless on plane so books will have to be preloaded , any of ereaders are fine .
If international you 'll want an ebook reader with wifi ( nook ) .Opportunity reading : smart phone wins hand down .
It will be with you when you 're stuck by chance waiting for an hour.Home reading : Long reads with lighting .
eInk will provide ideal reading experience .
Any ebook reader is fine since other capabilities do n't matter much since presumably you 'll have a computer nearby ( no need to play mp3 's are look up wikipedia on kindle ) .Bed reading : Short reading in low light , smart phone is better .
eInk will need a light.Classroom : Use the textbook .
Neither smart phones nor readers can display large graphs .
Readers also ca n't do color figures .
Absent of those restrictions the search , annotations and note-taking ( not your classnotes !
) features are nice .
I think it 'd be hard to follow along with a small screen of a smart phone .
But if you want to take classnotes you 'll need old-fashioned pen and paper or a netbook.Reference Library : Similar restrictions to classroom but allows you to take your whole reference library which you ca n't just do with textbooks .
May need to use phone and reader at same time .
Larger screen and easy operation might be a plus .
Depends on whether you need your library when you 're unprepared like unexpectedly helping a friend ( use smart phone ) or you are prepared like going to a conference ( use a reader , preferably a kindle DX for large screen and better PDF support ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It all depends on intended use case.
I find eInk makes a much more comfortable and enjoyable read.
Smart Phones are perfectly acceptable for some cases.
The biggest factor is how long are your reading sessions.
Remember all the ebook readers support drm-free books, they just don't sell them that way.
I'll break down common use patterns for electronic reading.Commuter: If you're on the subway, your short read means eye-strain is less of an issue.
Plenty of lighting so any screen is fine.
Battery usage is irrelevant.
You'll likely have a bag so the extra device doesn't matter.
It's a toss-up, I'd personally lean towards eInk since it's more comfortable.
I think the kindle for it's blog support is best in this case (the nook probably has a hack to do this).Traveler: You could be reading for 6 hours on a flight, you'll want the eInk.
Battery usage is also important.
You'll have a bag and plenty of lighting.
Definitely use an ebook reader.
No wireless on plane so books will have to be preloaded, any of ereaders are fine.
If international you'll want an ebook reader with wifi (nook).Opportunity reading: smart phone wins hand down.
It will be with you when you're stuck by chance waiting for an hour.Home reading: Long reads with lighting.
eInk will provide ideal reading experience.
Any ebook reader is fine since other capabilities don't matter much since presumably you'll have a computer nearby (no need to play mp3's are look up wikipedia on kindle).Bed reading: Short reading in low light, smart phone is better.
eInk will need a light.Classroom: Use the textbook.
Neither smart phones nor readers can display large graphs.
Readers also can't do color figures.
Absent of those restrictions the search, annotations and note-taking (not your classnotes!
) features are nice.
I think it'd be hard to follow along with a small screen of a smart phone.
But if you want to take classnotes you'll need old-fashioned pen and paper or a netbook.Reference Library:  Similar restrictions to classroom but allows you to take your whole reference library which you can't just do with textbooks.
May need to use phone and reader at same time.
Larger screen and easy operation might be a plus.
Depends on whether you need your library when you're unprepared like unexpectedly helping a friend (use smart phone) or you are prepared like going to a conference (use a reader, preferably a kindle DX for large screen and better PDF support).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141224</id>
	<title>Motorola Droid</title>
	<author>aminorex</author>
	<datestamp>1266175260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The best ebook reader is not an ebook reader, but rather a phone:  The Moto Droid is about 850x450 pixels in about 3.7 diag inches, and makes reading PDFs a delight.  Best of all, it fits in your shirt  pocket.  Do that with a kindle, nook, or apple brick.  Uh-uh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The best ebook reader is not an ebook reader , but rather a phone : The Moto Droid is about 850x450 pixels in about 3.7 diag inches , and makes reading PDFs a delight .
Best of all , it fits in your shirt pocket .
Do that with a kindle , nook , or apple brick .
Uh-uh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best ebook reader is not an ebook reader, but rather a phone:  The Moto Droid is about 850x450 pixels in about 3.7 diag inches, and makes reading PDFs a delight.
Best of all, it fits in your shirt  pocket.
Do that with a kindle, nook, or apple brick.
Uh-uh.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139018</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1266155340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Amazon Kindle.  Is this even a legitimate competition?</p></div><p>If you were on a site with "normal" people, maybe not. But this is Slashdot, and very little of what the typical consumer is interested in will even make it into this discussion (and if it does it'll get "offtopic" or "overrated" mods).</p><p>Instead, I expect this discussion will be all about whether a reader can mount from Linux, run Linux, or can interpret TeX.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Amazon Kindle .
Is this even a legitimate competition ? If you were on a site with " normal " people , maybe not .
But this is Slashdot , and very little of what the typical consumer is interested in will even make it into this discussion ( and if it does it 'll get " offtopic " or " overrated " mods ) .Instead , I expect this discussion will be all about whether a reader can mount from Linux , run Linux , or can interpret TeX .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Amazon Kindle.
Is this even a legitimate competition?If you were on a site with "normal" people, maybe not.
But this is Slashdot, and very little of what the typical consumer is interested in will even make it into this discussion (and if it does it'll get "offtopic" or "overrated" mods).Instead, I expect this discussion will be all about whether a reader can mount from Linux, run Linux, or can interpret TeX.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141160</id>
	<title>Re:for me, the HTC HD2</title>
	<author>Crunchie Frog</author>
	<datestamp>1266174360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm going to second this. HD2's big high res screen combined with <a href="http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/AlReader" title="mobileread.com" rel="nofollow">AlReader</a> [mobileread.com] is now my preferred ebook reader.

Sure it doesnt have an eInk screen but with a nice dark grey background and just off-white font colour, it gives me zero eye-strain. Fonts and colours are fully configurable so use what works for you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going to second this .
HD2 's big high res screen combined with AlReader [ mobileread.com ] is now my preferred ebook reader .
Sure it doesnt have an eInk screen but with a nice dark grey background and just off-white font colour , it gives me zero eye-strain .
Fonts and colours are fully configurable so use what works for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going to second this.
HD2's big high res screen combined with AlReader [mobileread.com] is now my preferred ebook reader.
Sure it doesnt have an eInk screen but with a nice dark grey background and just off-white font colour, it gives me zero eye-strain.
Fonts and colours are fully configurable so use what works for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31156664</id>
	<title>Bought Nook for the wife</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266343740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought the Nook for my wife and she's had it about a week now. Their in store features are not working yet, but they promise they will be coming. It was a spotty launch in my opinion, but my wife is thrilled with the device. Their online store still took about 30 minutes to get the book, though it said it would be faster. The navigation with the update last week is pretty responsive and she is thrilled with it. I put a pdf on it in seconds which I really liked. She was able to get books from the Seattle library easily and she's reading one from her book club now. Overall I currently like it and if they continue to add features, I think it's a great purchase for the same price as a Kindle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought the Nook for my wife and she 's had it about a week now .
Their in store features are not working yet , but they promise they will be coming .
It was a spotty launch in my opinion , but my wife is thrilled with the device .
Their online store still took about 30 minutes to get the book , though it said it would be faster .
The navigation with the update last week is pretty responsive and she is thrilled with it .
I put a pdf on it in seconds which I really liked .
She was able to get books from the Seattle library easily and she 's reading one from her book club now .
Overall I currently like it and if they continue to add features , I think it 's a great purchase for the same price as a Kindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought the Nook for my wife and she's had it about a week now.
Their in store features are not working yet, but they promise they will be coming.
It was a spotty launch in my opinion, but my wife is thrilled with the device.
Their online store still took about 30 minutes to get the book, though it said it would be faster.
The navigation with the update last week is pretty responsive and she is thrilled with it.
I put a pdf on it in seconds which I really liked.
She was able to get books from the Seattle library easily and she's reading one from her book club now.
Overall I currently like it and if they continue to add features, I think it's a great purchase for the same price as a Kindle.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138416</id>
	<title>One area I'm glad not to be an early adopter...</title>
	<author>thereofone</author>
	<datestamp>1266151440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hopefully e book readers will follow the digital camera capability/price ratio trend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hopefully e book readers will follow the digital camera capability/price ratio trend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hopefully e book readers will follow the digital camera capability/price ratio trend.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139920</id>
	<title>One</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266161760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Have you bought one yet? If so, which one did you find best and why?</p></div><p>Yes, I did buy one.  The one I found best was the one I bought, because it's the only one I've used.  In my experience, it is also the worst.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you bought one yet ?
If so , which one did you find best and why ? Yes , I did buy one .
The one I found best was the one I bought , because it 's the only one I 've used .
In my experience , it is also the worst .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you bought one yet?
If so, which one did you find best and why?Yes, I did buy one.
The one I found best was the one I bought, because it's the only one I've used.
In my experience, it is also the worst.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31147660</id>
	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266267060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The line you quoted as "not at all true" is completely correct.  He said the \_marginal\_ cost of production is tiny.  Your point is that the bulk of the cost of producing books is in the fixed cost rather in the marginal cost, but that doesn't contradict the OP.  But when you factor in distribution channels and all the overhead that goes into stocking brick-and-mortar stores I don't think the real cost savings isn't as negligible as you make it out to be.</p><p>Also his example demonstrates quite well his point that the DRM'd book delivers far less value.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The line you quoted as " not at all true " is completely correct .
He said the \ _marginal \ _ cost of production is tiny .
Your point is that the bulk of the cost of producing books is in the fixed cost rather in the marginal cost , but that does n't contradict the OP .
But when you factor in distribution channels and all the overhead that goes into stocking brick-and-mortar stores I do n't think the real cost savings is n't as negligible as you make it out to be.Also his example demonstrates quite well his point that the DRM 'd book delivers far less value .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The line you quoted as "not at all true" is completely correct.
He said the \_marginal\_ cost of production is tiny.
Your point is that the bulk of the cost of producing books is in the fixed cost rather in the marginal cost, but that doesn't contradict the OP.
But when you factor in distribution channels and all the overhead that goes into stocking brick-and-mortar stores I don't think the real cost savings isn't as negligible as you make it out to be.Also his example demonstrates quite well his point that the DRM'd book delivers far less value.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31145088</id>
	<title>Since I STILL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266254400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since I STILL can buy a nice used thinkpad OR a NEW netbook for the same price or less, those are the best options.  For an e-book reader (a limited function device at best), the price has to be less than $50, It must have a screen that can easily be read in full sunlight, as well as having an internal backlight for nightime reading.  It does NOT need to play MP3 files or games, but it needs to read all ebook formats, and convert DRMed formats to non-DRMed formats like plain TXT and PDF files.  It only needs 2-4 gig of ram, as that will store thousands of NON-DRMed ebooks.It should connect to a computer using a standard USB cable (no non standard connectors!).  It doesn't need WI-Fi, or the ability to connect to the Internet.It doesn't need blu-tooth nor does it need to connect to a (cell) phone in any way.  It must of course run linux, and use standard AA NiMH batteries that can be charged in the reader with the included AC adapter.</p><p>Until an ebook reader can meet all of the above, a laptop or netbook is a better choice, as for the same price it will do so much more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since I STILL can buy a nice used thinkpad OR a NEW netbook for the same price or less , those are the best options .
For an e-book reader ( a limited function device at best ) , the price has to be less than $ 50 , It must have a screen that can easily be read in full sunlight , as well as having an internal backlight for nightime reading .
It does NOT need to play MP3 files or games , but it needs to read all ebook formats , and convert DRMed formats to non-DRMed formats like plain TXT and PDF files .
It only needs 2-4 gig of ram , as that will store thousands of NON-DRMed ebooks.It should connect to a computer using a standard USB cable ( no non standard connectors ! ) .
It does n't need WI-Fi , or the ability to connect to the Internet.It does n't need blu-tooth nor does it need to connect to a ( cell ) phone in any way .
It must of course run linux , and use standard AA NiMH batteries that can be charged in the reader with the included AC adapter.Until an ebook reader can meet all of the above , a laptop or netbook is a better choice , as for the same price it will do so much more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since I STILL can buy a nice used thinkpad OR a NEW netbook for the same price or less, those are the best options.
For an e-book reader (a limited function device at best), the price has to be less than $50, It must have a screen that can easily be read in full sunlight, as well as having an internal backlight for nightime reading.
It does NOT need to play MP3 files or games, but it needs to read all ebook formats, and convert DRMed formats to non-DRMed formats like plain TXT and PDF files.
It only needs 2-4 gig of ram, as that will store thousands of NON-DRMed ebooks.It should connect to a computer using a standard USB cable (no non standard connectors!).
It doesn't need WI-Fi, or the ability to connect to the Internet.It doesn't need blu-tooth nor does it need to connect to a (cell) phone in any way.
It must of course run linux, and use standard AA NiMH batteries that can be charged in the reader with the included AC adapter.Until an ebook reader can meet all of the above, a laptop or netbook is a better choice, as for the same price it will do so much more.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138576</id>
	<title>The Skiff looks nice, except for who controls it</title>
	<author>RalphBNumbers</author>
	<datestamp>1266152280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Skiff Reader has a flexible touchable screen with more viewable area and resolution than the Kindle DX, while still being thinner and lighter.<br>Unfortunately, it's still a bit vapor-ish, and I don't think the consortium of publishers backing it are the right people for the job.  Online distribution needs a strong device maker and/or store manager to keep the old media types in line, otherwise they'll just keep raising prices and restrictions, trying to make sure there is no threat to their traditional businesses, until the new market is completely strangled.</p><p>The iPad is at the other end of the spectrum, it handles color and refreshes in miliseconds instead of seconds but it's also heavy and thick (what do you expect with a big glass covered IPS LCD screen and ~5x the battery capacity of any of it's competitors to power it).  But it does have an extremely strong device/market centered backer, and I kind of expect it's descendants to prevail in the long run as low power and high power/contrast/speed/color display technologies converge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Skiff Reader has a flexible touchable screen with more viewable area and resolution than the Kindle DX , while still being thinner and lighter.Unfortunately , it 's still a bit vapor-ish , and I do n't think the consortium of publishers backing it are the right people for the job .
Online distribution needs a strong device maker and/or store manager to keep the old media types in line , otherwise they 'll just keep raising prices and restrictions , trying to make sure there is no threat to their traditional businesses , until the new market is completely strangled.The iPad is at the other end of the spectrum , it handles color and refreshes in miliseconds instead of seconds but it 's also heavy and thick ( what do you expect with a big glass covered IPS LCD screen and ~ 5x the battery capacity of any of it 's competitors to power it ) .
But it does have an extremely strong device/market centered backer , and I kind of expect it 's descendants to prevail in the long run as low power and high power/contrast/speed/color display technologies converge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Skiff Reader has a flexible touchable screen with more viewable area and resolution than the Kindle DX, while still being thinner and lighter.Unfortunately, it's still a bit vapor-ish, and I don't think the consortium of publishers backing it are the right people for the job.
Online distribution needs a strong device maker and/or store manager to keep the old media types in line, otherwise they'll just keep raising prices and restrictions, trying to make sure there is no threat to their traditional businesses, until the new market is completely strangled.The iPad is at the other end of the spectrum, it handles color and refreshes in miliseconds instead of seconds but it's also heavy and thick (what do you expect with a big glass covered IPS LCD screen and ~5x the battery capacity of any of it's competitors to power it).
But it does have an extremely strong device/market centered backer, and I kind of expect it's descendants to prevail in the long run as low power and high power/contrast/speed/color display technologies converge.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139082</id>
	<title>Entourage Edge - Duel Screen reader</title>
	<author>Bman21212</author>
	<datestamp>1266155760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.entourageedge.com/entourage-edge.html" title="entourageedge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.entourageedge.com/entourage-edge.html</a> [entourageedge.com]</p><p>It will be out in a month, but so far seems amazing.  Runs on android.  Has one side of e-ink and one of lcd.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.entourageedge.com/entourage-edge.html [ entourageedge.com ] It will be out in a month , but so far seems amazing .
Runs on android .
Has one side of e-ink and one of lcd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.entourageedge.com/entourage-edge.html [entourageedge.com]It will be out in a month, but so far seems amazing.
Runs on android.
Has one side of e-ink and one of lcd.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140774</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle</title>
	<author>caseih</author>
	<datestamp>1266169560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, actually, there is legitimate competition, as can be seen here.  The Sony products are very good, the iRex Iliad seems absolutely the best but way too expensive.  The Hanlin readers seem good too (and have been around for quite a while).</p><p>The Kindle has only 2 advantages over the competition really, one is Amazon's supply of ebooks (albeit DRMed).  The other is that it is relatively cheap (compared to the Iliad especially).  Other than that, there's not a lot about the Kindle to recommend it over Sony.</p><p>Wireless is a feature, but one of only marginal utility compared to the rest of the idea of what an ebook reader is for (IE reading).  It's handy for renting new books from Amazon.  Or grabbing a book from Gutenberg.  But for most of us who have our ebook libraries already on our computers in txt, pdf, and other forms, dumping it via mass storage is probably the quickest and easiest.</p><p>I'd like an ebook reader that was open such that I can easily write my own software for it, without restrictions.  Kindle's SDK will be out soon, but we'll have to see if it will be as restrictive as Apple's SDK has been thus far.  I know that the Kindle can be hacked and you can get access to the file system and run your own apps (some guy recently built the Qt framework for the Kindle), but I don't want to have to break into a device I own to be able to do things with it.  Plus any future update from Amazon could close the holes, leaving me high and dry.  In short, the Kindle is a gamble.  Is it a better gamble than the Sony?  I don't know.  It's hard to tell.</p><p>Right now the best e-book readers that would probably fit the requirements of the anti-kindle slashdotters, is the Hanlin series of readers.  But unfortunately you can't buy them from any US retailer and shipping from China is pretty expensive, especially for a device I cannot see and hold before buying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , actually , there is legitimate competition , as can be seen here .
The Sony products are very good , the iRex Iliad seems absolutely the best but way too expensive .
The Hanlin readers seem good too ( and have been around for quite a while ) .The Kindle has only 2 advantages over the competition really , one is Amazon 's supply of ebooks ( albeit DRMed ) .
The other is that it is relatively cheap ( compared to the Iliad especially ) .
Other than that , there 's not a lot about the Kindle to recommend it over Sony.Wireless is a feature , but one of only marginal utility compared to the rest of the idea of what an ebook reader is for ( IE reading ) .
It 's handy for renting new books from Amazon .
Or grabbing a book from Gutenberg .
But for most of us who have our ebook libraries already on our computers in txt , pdf , and other forms , dumping it via mass storage is probably the quickest and easiest.I 'd like an ebook reader that was open such that I can easily write my own software for it , without restrictions .
Kindle 's SDK will be out soon , but we 'll have to see if it will be as restrictive as Apple 's SDK has been thus far .
I know that the Kindle can be hacked and you can get access to the file system and run your own apps ( some guy recently built the Qt framework for the Kindle ) , but I do n't want to have to break into a device I own to be able to do things with it .
Plus any future update from Amazon could close the holes , leaving me high and dry .
In short , the Kindle is a gamble .
Is it a better gamble than the Sony ?
I do n't know .
It 's hard to tell.Right now the best e-book readers that would probably fit the requirements of the anti-kindle slashdotters , is the Hanlin series of readers .
But unfortunately you ca n't buy them from any US retailer and shipping from China is pretty expensive , especially for a device I can not see and hold before buying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, actually, there is legitimate competition, as can be seen here.
The Sony products are very good, the iRex Iliad seems absolutely the best but way too expensive.
The Hanlin readers seem good too (and have been around for quite a while).The Kindle has only 2 advantages over the competition really, one is Amazon's supply of ebooks (albeit DRMed).
The other is that it is relatively cheap (compared to the Iliad especially).
Other than that, there's not a lot about the Kindle to recommend it over Sony.Wireless is a feature, but one of only marginal utility compared to the rest of the idea of what an ebook reader is for (IE reading).
It's handy for renting new books from Amazon.
Or grabbing a book from Gutenberg.
But for most of us who have our ebook libraries already on our computers in txt, pdf, and other forms, dumping it via mass storage is probably the quickest and easiest.I'd like an ebook reader that was open such that I can easily write my own software for it, without restrictions.
Kindle's SDK will be out soon, but we'll have to see if it will be as restrictive as Apple's SDK has been thus far.
I know that the Kindle can be hacked and you can get access to the file system and run your own apps (some guy recently built the Qt framework for the Kindle), but I don't want to have to break into a device I own to be able to do things with it.
Plus any future update from Amazon could close the holes, leaving me high and dry.
In short, the Kindle is a gamble.
Is it a better gamble than the Sony?
I don't know.
It's hard to tell.Right now the best e-book readers that would probably fit the requirements of the anti-kindle slashdotters, is the Hanlin series of readers.
But unfortunately you can't buy them from any US retailer and shipping from China is pretty expensive, especially for a device I cannot see and hold before buying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31144544</id>
	<title>Most stuff wins</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266252000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mark my word. The iPad will probably not be the best e-book reader at introduction, but I bet it will be the best ebook reader during 2010.</p><p>Look at what Apple did with iPod then iPhone and now iPad. The iPod brought legal digital music for a fair price trough iTunes Music Store. The iPhone brought applications for smart phones in masses trough iTunes AppStore(i have a nokia, it can't compared with the iPhone iPhone in such different league).</p><p>What will the iPad bring. Well most probably an BookStroe in iTunes. This is what will rock the iPad to become the best e-book reader 2010.</p><p>It' migt not have the best hardware, but that is overrated look at iPhone. Software, few beat iPhone OSX, Nokia does not, neither Microsoft Win Mobile, Google andrioid maybe one day in a distant future.</p><p>But it's the content that will make it the best, and here Apple has been smarter faster and better than the competitors. I would bet money they suceed in this too, even tough they are later to the game this time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mark my word .
The iPad will probably not be the best e-book reader at introduction , but I bet it will be the best ebook reader during 2010.Look at what Apple did with iPod then iPhone and now iPad .
The iPod brought legal digital music for a fair price trough iTunes Music Store .
The iPhone brought applications for smart phones in masses trough iTunes AppStore ( i have a nokia , it ca n't compared with the iPhone iPhone in such different league ) .What will the iPad bring .
Well most probably an BookStroe in iTunes .
This is what will rock the iPad to become the best e-book reader 2010.It ' migt not have the best hardware , but that is overrated look at iPhone .
Software , few beat iPhone OSX , Nokia does not , neither Microsoft Win Mobile , Google andrioid maybe one day in a distant future.But it 's the content that will make it the best , and here Apple has been smarter faster and better than the competitors .
I would bet money they suceed in this too , even tough they are later to the game this time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mark my word.
The iPad will probably not be the best e-book reader at introduction, but I bet it will be the best ebook reader during 2010.Look at what Apple did with iPod then iPhone and now iPad.
The iPod brought legal digital music for a fair price trough iTunes Music Store.
The iPhone brought applications for smart phones in masses trough iTunes AppStore(i have a nokia, it can't compared with the iPhone iPhone in such different league).What will the iPad bring.
Well most probably an BookStroe in iTunes.
This is what will rock the iPad to become the best e-book reader 2010.It' migt not have the best hardware, but that is overrated look at iPhone.
Software, few beat iPhone OSX, Nokia does not, neither Microsoft Win Mobile, Google andrioid maybe one day in a distant future.But it's the content that will make it the best, and here Apple has been smarter faster and better than the competitors.
I would bet money they suceed in this too, even tough they are later to the game this time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141234</id>
	<title>iPhone/iPod Touch</title>
	<author>mikeplokta</author>
	<datestamp>1266175380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want it to act as a phone as well, the best eReader is the iPhone. If you don't, it's the iPod touch.</p><p>Everything sold as an eReader has two fatal flaws. First, they're all way too big, in order to have a page size big enough that they can pretend they're like paper books. An eReader should fit in a shirt pocket.</p><p>Second, e-Ink displays are horrible. They're grey-on-grey text, and the half second flash and delay on page turning is terribly distracting. LCD is the only way to go at present.</p><p>(Yes, I actually do read on my iPhone; I've read over thirty books on it so far this year.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want it to act as a phone as well , the best eReader is the iPhone .
If you do n't , it 's the iPod touch.Everything sold as an eReader has two fatal flaws .
First , they 're all way too big , in order to have a page size big enough that they can pretend they 're like paper books .
An eReader should fit in a shirt pocket.Second , e-Ink displays are horrible .
They 're grey-on-grey text , and the half second flash and delay on page turning is terribly distracting .
LCD is the only way to go at present .
( Yes , I actually do read on my iPhone ; I 've read over thirty books on it so far this year .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want it to act as a phone as well, the best eReader is the iPhone.
If you don't, it's the iPod touch.Everything sold as an eReader has two fatal flaws.
First, they're all way too big, in order to have a page size big enough that they can pretend they're like paper books.
An eReader should fit in a shirt pocket.Second, e-Ink displays are horrible.
They're grey-on-grey text, and the half second flash and delay on page turning is terribly distracting.
LCD is the only way to go at present.
(Yes, I actually do read on my iPhone; I've read over thirty books on it so far this year.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139104</id>
	<title>Blio?</title>
	<author>aaron987</author>
	<datestamp>1266155880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Blio. Sure, it isn't available yet, but based on the demos of it, it looks promising. I think I will wait until Blio becomes available, then try it out on my netbook. If it stinks, then I will go out and get a dedicated e-book reader. But with color diagrams, embedded video, highlighting, and the ability to read out loud, I think it will be pretty cool, especially for textbooks. The only concern I have is whether or not the books will be locked with DRMs. I haven't heard anything about that yet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm surprised nobody has mentioned Blio .
Sure , it is n't available yet , but based on the demos of it , it looks promising .
I think I will wait until Blio becomes available , then try it out on my netbook .
If it stinks , then I will go out and get a dedicated e-book reader .
But with color diagrams , embedded video , highlighting , and the ability to read out loud , I think it will be pretty cool , especially for textbooks .
The only concern I have is whether or not the books will be locked with DRMs .
I have n't heard anything about that yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Blio.
Sure, it isn't available yet, but based on the demos of it, it looks promising.
I think I will wait until Blio becomes available, then try it out on my netbook.
If it stinks, then I will go out and get a dedicated e-book reader.
But with color diagrams, embedded video, highlighting, and the ability to read out loud, I think it will be pretty cool, especially for textbooks.
The only concern I have is whether or not the books will be locked with DRMs.
I haven't heard anything about that yet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138798</id>
	<title>Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>dpbsmith</author>
	<datestamp>1266154020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...fooled me twice, shame on me.</p><p>I bought a Nuvomedia Rocket eBook in 2000 over the counter at Barnes and Noble. (The company and products were acquired by Gemstar and marketed for many years as the Gemstar REB-1200).</p><p>The device itself was fine. More than good enough. 20 hour battery life and that was for real. I read many long novels for pleasure on it. I took it on trips and loved the convenience of being able to carry eight full-length books with me in a device with the same size and weight as one trade paperback. Of course 2010 devices are better in every way, but the Rocket eBook was good enough.</p><p>What was not good enough was DRM.</p><p>I've been taught a lesson. I am now the proud owner of over $300 worth of useless bits. They are encrypted and keyed to a serial-numbered hardware device which bit the dust last year. In theory, this is no problem, as the books and Gemstar's record of my ownership remains on the servers. All I need to do is buy a new device, call Gemstar customer service, have them reencode my books with the new device serial number, and download them again. Except that Gemstar doesn't exist, Gemstar customer service doesn't exist, and the servers were shut down long ago.</p><p>Because of another limitation of DRM--I couldn't share my books with my wife even if she had her own Rocket eBook reader, which she didn't, she didn't know that I had purchased an e-copy for $15, and bought her own paper copy for $15. She can still read her copy. She will still be able to read it twenty years from now. She can lend it to a friend. She can sell it on eBay.<br>Scarcely five years after purchase, I cannot read mine and will never be able to read it again.</p><p>eBooks should cost far, far less than print books, not merely because their marginal cost of production is tiny, but because they deliver far less value than a print book.</p><p>I've seriously considered writing to Jeff Bezos and saying I will only buy a Kindle if he will arrange to get me free Kindle copies of all the books I bought, which the eBook industry has rendered useless piles of bits. The word theft gets thrown around rather casually with DRM gets discussed. Well, I feel that denying me access to the books I bought and paid for in good faith is theft. When the eBook industry, as represented by Amazon, is willing to make me whole, then I will start buying eBook devices and content again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...fooled me twice , shame on me.I bought a Nuvomedia Rocket eBook in 2000 over the counter at Barnes and Noble .
( The company and products were acquired by Gemstar and marketed for many years as the Gemstar REB-1200 ) .The device itself was fine .
More than good enough .
20 hour battery life and that was for real .
I read many long novels for pleasure on it .
I took it on trips and loved the convenience of being able to carry eight full-length books with me in a device with the same size and weight as one trade paperback .
Of course 2010 devices are better in every way , but the Rocket eBook was good enough.What was not good enough was DRM.I 've been taught a lesson .
I am now the proud owner of over $ 300 worth of useless bits .
They are encrypted and keyed to a serial-numbered hardware device which bit the dust last year .
In theory , this is no problem , as the books and Gemstar 's record of my ownership remains on the servers .
All I need to do is buy a new device , call Gemstar customer service , have them reencode my books with the new device serial number , and download them again .
Except that Gemstar does n't exist , Gemstar customer service does n't exist , and the servers were shut down long ago.Because of another limitation of DRM--I could n't share my books with my wife even if she had her own Rocket eBook reader , which she did n't , she did n't know that I had purchased an e-copy for $ 15 , and bought her own paper copy for $ 15 .
She can still read her copy .
She will still be able to read it twenty years from now .
She can lend it to a friend .
She can sell it on eBay.Scarcely five years after purchase , I can not read mine and will never be able to read it again.eBooks should cost far , far less than print books , not merely because their marginal cost of production is tiny , but because they deliver far less value than a print book.I 've seriously considered writing to Jeff Bezos and saying I will only buy a Kindle if he will arrange to get me free Kindle copies of all the books I bought , which the eBook industry has rendered useless piles of bits .
The word theft gets thrown around rather casually with DRM gets discussed .
Well , I feel that denying me access to the books I bought and paid for in good faith is theft .
When the eBook industry , as represented by Amazon , is willing to make me whole , then I will start buying eBook devices and content again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...fooled me twice, shame on me.I bought a Nuvomedia Rocket eBook in 2000 over the counter at Barnes and Noble.
(The company and products were acquired by Gemstar and marketed for many years as the Gemstar REB-1200).The device itself was fine.
More than good enough.
20 hour battery life and that was for real.
I read many long novels for pleasure on it.
I took it on trips and loved the convenience of being able to carry eight full-length books with me in a device with the same size and weight as one trade paperback.
Of course 2010 devices are better in every way, but the Rocket eBook was good enough.What was not good enough was DRM.I've been taught a lesson.
I am now the proud owner of over $300 worth of useless bits.
They are encrypted and keyed to a serial-numbered hardware device which bit the dust last year.
In theory, this is no problem, as the books and Gemstar's record of my ownership remains on the servers.
All I need to do is buy a new device, call Gemstar customer service, have them reencode my books with the new device serial number, and download them again.
Except that Gemstar doesn't exist, Gemstar customer service doesn't exist, and the servers were shut down long ago.Because of another limitation of DRM--I couldn't share my books with my wife even if she had her own Rocket eBook reader, which she didn't, she didn't know that I had purchased an e-copy for $15, and bought her own paper copy for $15.
She can still read her copy.
She will still be able to read it twenty years from now.
She can lend it to a friend.
She can sell it on eBay.Scarcely five years after purchase, I cannot read mine and will never be able to read it again.eBooks should cost far, far less than print books, not merely because their marginal cost of production is tiny, but because they deliver far less value than a print book.I've seriously considered writing to Jeff Bezos and saying I will only buy a Kindle if he will arrange to get me free Kindle copies of all the books I bought, which the eBook industry has rendered useless piles of bits.
The word theft gets thrown around rather casually with DRM gets discussed.
Well, I feel that denying me access to the books I bought and paid for in good faith is theft.
When the eBook industry, as represented by Amazon, is willing to make me whole, then I will start buying eBook devices and content again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138392</id>
	<title>The entourage edge?</title>
	<author>My-Kung-Fu-Is-Best</author>
	<datestamp>1266151200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The entourage edge It's not available yet (set to ship in March 2010), but it looks like its got what most people want and then some. I might be getting one myself. I've been hesitant, like most, because of price, ease of use, screen size, etc...

It's not too much more than some of the other readers, so it might be a nice alternative.

<a href="http://www.entourageedge.com/devices/entourage-edge.html" title="entourageedge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.entourageedge.com/devices/entourage-edge.html</a> [entourageedge.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>The entourage edge It 's not available yet ( set to ship in March 2010 ) , but it looks like its got what most people want and then some .
I might be getting one myself .
I 've been hesitant , like most , because of price , ease of use , screen size , etc.. . It 's not too much more than some of the other readers , so it might be a nice alternative .
http : //www.entourageedge.com/devices/entourage-edge.html [ entourageedge.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The entourage edge It's not available yet (set to ship in March 2010), but it looks like its got what most people want and then some.
I might be getting one myself.
I've been hesitant, like most, because of price, ease of use, screen size, etc...

It's not too much more than some of the other readers, so it might be a nice alternative.
http://www.entourageedge.com/devices/entourage-edge.html [entourageedge.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141034</id>
	<title>Consider the Notion Ink Adam</title>
	<author>UltimateNinja</author>
	<datestamp>1266172800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It will be a tablet with the new Pixel Qi screen and will run Ubuntu, Android and Chromium - <a href="http://www.technoholik.com/news/exclusive-a-sneak-peek-at-the-notion-ink-adam-tablet-specs-pics/" title="technoholik.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.technoholik.com/news/exclusive-a-sneak-peek-at-the-notion-ink-adam-tablet-specs-pics/</a> [technoholik.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>It will be a tablet with the new Pixel Qi screen and will run Ubuntu , Android and Chromium - http : //www.technoholik.com/news/exclusive-a-sneak-peek-at-the-notion-ink-adam-tablet-specs-pics/ [ technoholik.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will be a tablet with the new Pixel Qi screen and will run Ubuntu, Android and Chromium - http://www.technoholik.com/news/exclusive-a-sneak-peek-at-the-notion-ink-adam-tablet-specs-pics/ [technoholik.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140660</id>
	<title>Well, normally I wouldn't but...</title>
	<author>deisama</author>
	<datestamp>1266168360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It'd be downright foolish not to plug my own product here:<br>
<a href="http://comicreader.mobi/" title="comicreader.mobi" rel="nofollow">http://comicreader.mobi</a> [comicreader.mobi] <br>
<br>
There's a version for the iPhone, iPad, Windows Phones, Blackberry, and even a desktop version.<br>
<br>
Of course the biggest advantage of the software reader vs a hardware one, is that you have your phone with you all the time. So if you find yourself with some unexpected free time, you can always pull the phone out and read for however long you want to. Its great for when you need to kill 10 or 15 minutes. Which would be too short to warrant bringing dedicated hardware for.<br>
<br>
Comics don't hurt my eyes when I read them on the lcd screen, but the style of comics is such that your eyes naturally move around more following the art, so you're never staring as intensly at the screen as you would reading pure text</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'd be downright foolish not to plug my own product here : http : //comicreader.mobi [ comicreader.mobi ] There 's a version for the iPhone , iPad , Windows Phones , Blackberry , and even a desktop version .
Of course the biggest advantage of the software reader vs a hardware one , is that you have your phone with you all the time .
So if you find yourself with some unexpected free time , you can always pull the phone out and read for however long you want to .
Its great for when you need to kill 10 or 15 minutes .
Which would be too short to warrant bringing dedicated hardware for .
Comics do n't hurt my eyes when I read them on the lcd screen , but the style of comics is such that your eyes naturally move around more following the art , so you 're never staring as intensly at the screen as you would reading pure text</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'd be downright foolish not to plug my own product here:
http://comicreader.mobi [comicreader.mobi] 

There's a version for the iPhone, iPad, Windows Phones, Blackberry, and even a desktop version.
Of course the biggest advantage of the software reader vs a hardware one, is that you have your phone with you all the time.
So if you find yourself with some unexpected free time, you can always pull the phone out and read for however long you want to.
Its great for when you need to kill 10 or 15 minutes.
Which would be too short to warrant bringing dedicated hardware for.
Comics don't hurt my eyes when I read them on the lcd screen, but the style of comics is such that your eyes naturally move around more following the art, so you're never staring as intensly at the screen as you would reading pure text</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31174398</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone/iPod Touch</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265056620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>30 Eh! That's pretty good, one every day and a half.</htmltext>
<tokenext>30 Eh !
That 's pretty good , one every day and a half .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>30 Eh!
That's pretty good, one every day and a half.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141516</id>
	<title>nook approval</title>
	<author>StanramonFlash</author>
	<datestamp>1266264840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm happy with it... mostly.  You gotta plug it in everyday if you read it all day long, but it does have expandable memory up to 8 gigs, both wifi and modem and works flawless under Linux with Calibre working unexpectedly well, I say unexpectedly because in my version it's not officially supported but still sometimes I open it and my periodicals have been automatically uploaded to my suprise and they rendered well.  Some of the plain txt file conversions with Calibre don't go so well, but haven't really fiddled with it yet.  Haven't tried the web-browser or rooting it, but I can't imagine it would be very pretty, you might get a couple of hours out of it, but I think I would gnaw off my hands trying to type this summary of it onto the somewhat painful keyboard, of course I can't stand touchpads either.  Comes with a somewhat limited dictionary, it can't find multiplexural.  my summary wouldn't be complete if I didn't mention, Don't use it to play music, you get like an hour maybe two out of it and it's dead as a doornail.  But maybe it was because I wasn't using headphones, sound was good, but still why'd they put such a teeny battery on the thing if they're going to sell it for close to 300 dollars!!  I'd require either a longer Cable or easier battery swapping if I were to buy one for a friend, because they are fun to play with.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm happy with it... mostly. You got ta plug it in everyday if you read it all day long , but it does have expandable memory up to 8 gigs , both wifi and modem and works flawless under Linux with Calibre working unexpectedly well , I say unexpectedly because in my version it 's not officially supported but still sometimes I open it and my periodicals have been automatically uploaded to my suprise and they rendered well .
Some of the plain txt file conversions with Calibre do n't go so well , but have n't really fiddled with it yet .
Have n't tried the web-browser or rooting it , but I ca n't imagine it would be very pretty , you might get a couple of hours out of it , but I think I would gnaw off my hands trying to type this summary of it onto the somewhat painful keyboard , of course I ca n't stand touchpads either .
Comes with a somewhat limited dictionary , it ca n't find multiplexural .
my summary would n't be complete if I did n't mention , Do n't use it to play music , you get like an hour maybe two out of it and it 's dead as a doornail .
But maybe it was because I was n't using headphones , sound was good , but still why 'd they put such a teeny battery on the thing if they 're going to sell it for close to 300 dollars ! !
I 'd require either a longer Cable or easier battery swapping if I were to buy one for a friend , because they are fun to play with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm happy with it... mostly.  You gotta plug it in everyday if you read it all day long, but it does have expandable memory up to 8 gigs, both wifi and modem and works flawless under Linux with Calibre working unexpectedly well, I say unexpectedly because in my version it's not officially supported but still sometimes I open it and my periodicals have been automatically uploaded to my suprise and they rendered well.
Some of the plain txt file conversions with Calibre don't go so well, but haven't really fiddled with it yet.
Haven't tried the web-browser or rooting it, but I can't imagine it would be very pretty, you might get a couple of hours out of it, but I think I would gnaw off my hands trying to type this summary of it onto the somewhat painful keyboard, of course I can't stand touchpads either.
Comes with a somewhat limited dictionary, it can't find multiplexural.
my summary wouldn't be complete if I didn't mention, Don't use it to play music, you get like an hour maybe two out of it and it's dead as a doornail.
But maybe it was because I wasn't using headphones, sound was good, but still why'd they put such a teeny battery on the thing if they're going to sell it for close to 300 dollars!!
I'd require either a longer Cable or easier battery swapping if I were to buy one for a friend, because they are fun to play with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138862</id>
	<title>Laptop</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1266154260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't see a need for a dedicated reader. I use to read books on my Palm IIIe (and I have a later model Palm I rarely fire up) so I know the convenience is nice, but I'm just not willing to pay big money for a dedicated device to read books. In a world rabbiting on about green this and green that, it seems wasteful to have single purpose devices, let alone the DRM infested offerings of the last 5 years. My laptop reads most formats very well, provided they're not crippled. It'll read crippled books too, if I'm dumb enough to buy them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see a need for a dedicated reader .
I use to read books on my Palm IIIe ( and I have a later model Palm I rarely fire up ) so I know the convenience is nice , but I 'm just not willing to pay big money for a dedicated device to read books .
In a world rabbiting on about green this and green that , it seems wasteful to have single purpose devices , let alone the DRM infested offerings of the last 5 years .
My laptop reads most formats very well , provided they 're not crippled .
It 'll read crippled books too , if I 'm dumb enough to buy them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see a need for a dedicated reader.
I use to read books on my Palm IIIe (and I have a later model Palm I rarely fire up) so I know the convenience is nice, but I'm just not willing to pay big money for a dedicated device to read books.
In a world rabbiting on about green this and green that, it seems wasteful to have single purpose devices, let alone the DRM infested offerings of the last 5 years.
My laptop reads most formats very well, provided they're not crippled.
It'll read crippled books too, if I'm dumb enough to buy them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138608</id>
	<title>Re:iPad?</title>
	<author>zz5555</author>
	<datestamp>1266152460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, so far the iPad is the only one that might be acceptable.  It has color and can also hold music and videos.  Except for the books, it's free of DRM (well, the apps aren't, but I'm not including them here).  I understand eInk is much better for viewing books, so I'd like to check that out.  But black &amp; white would be unacceptable to me in any ereader.  I'm looking forward to seeing the color eInk when it comes out as that could be a big winner.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , so far the iPad is the only one that might be acceptable .
It has color and can also hold music and videos .
Except for the books , it 's free of DRM ( well , the apps are n't , but I 'm not including them here ) .
I understand eInk is much better for viewing books , so I 'd like to check that out .
But black &amp; white would be unacceptable to me in any ereader .
I 'm looking forward to seeing the color eInk when it comes out as that could be a big winner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, so far the iPad is the only one that might be acceptable.
It has color and can also hold music and videos.
Except for the books, it's free of DRM (well, the apps aren't, but I'm not including them here).
I understand eInk is much better for viewing books, so I'd like to check that out.
But black &amp; white would be unacceptable to me in any ereader.
I'm looking forward to seeing the color eInk when it comes out as that could be a big winner.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139276</id>
	<title>It hasn't been invented yet.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266157080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
We're getting close, but I don't think we're there yet.
</p><p>
My own expectations are:
</p><ol>
<li>color;</li>
<li>bistable display that consumes no power for a static image;</li>
<li>high contrast display, easily usable both indoors and out;</li>
<li>durable enough to withstand being stepped on without breaking;</li>
<li>utilizes SD cards or mini-SD cards for expanded storage for documents;</li>
<li>screen large enough to show a full 8.5x11" page without scaling it down;</li>
<li>high enough resolution to read smaller fonts (such as footnotes) without zooming;</li>
<li>screen update times of no more than a tenth of a second;</li>
<li>allows user supplied (PDF) documents to be displayed, and not just DRM'd documents; and</li>
<li>still costs less than a more functionally versatile device such as a laptop.</li>
</ol><p>
If a company can hit all ten of these requirements, I'd buy one in a proverbial New York minute.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're getting close , but I do n't think we 're there yet .
My own expectations are : color ; bistable display that consumes no power for a static image ; high contrast display , easily usable both indoors and out ; durable enough to withstand being stepped on without breaking ; utilizes SD cards or mini-SD cards for expanded storage for documents ; screen large enough to show a full 8.5x11 " page without scaling it down ; high enough resolution to read smaller fonts ( such as footnotes ) without zooming ; screen update times of no more than a tenth of a second ; allows user supplied ( PDF ) documents to be displayed , and not just DRM 'd documents ; and still costs less than a more functionally versatile device such as a laptop .
If a company can hit all ten of these requirements , I 'd buy one in a proverbial New York minute .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
We're getting close, but I don't think we're there yet.
My own expectations are:

color;
bistable display that consumes no power for a static image;
high contrast display, easily usable both indoors and out;
durable enough to withstand being stepped on without breaking;
utilizes SD cards or mini-SD cards for expanded storage for documents;
screen large enough to show a full 8.5x11" page without scaling it down;
high enough resolution to read smaller fonts (such as footnotes) without zooming;
screen update times of no more than a tenth of a second;
allows user supplied (PDF) documents to be displayed, and not just DRM'd documents; and
still costs less than a more functionally versatile device such as a laptop.
If a company can hit all ten of these requirements, I'd buy one in a proverbial New York minute.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138716</id>
	<title>As for now</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266153300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have bought a Kindle DX. As for now, Kindle DX is great. The screen size is similar to the size of a manga book that sell in the bookstore.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-) PDF document viewing is OK. Purchase service is easy. I have great hope for it. However, I recommends to turn off the wireless service if not use. ??battery??</p><p>Over all, it is pretty good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have bought a Kindle DX .
As for now , Kindle DX is great .
The screen size is similar to the size of a manga book that sell in the bookstore .
; - ) PDF document viewing is OK. Purchase service is easy .
I have great hope for it .
However , I recommends to turn off the wireless service if not use .
? ? battery ? ? Over all , it is pretty good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have bought a Kindle DX.
As for now, Kindle DX is great.
The screen size is similar to the size of a manga book that sell in the bookstore.
;-) PDF document viewing is OK. Purchase service is easy.
I have great hope for it.
However, I recommends to turn off the wireless service if not use.
??battery??Over all, it is pretty good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140616</id>
	<title>Saving up for the Que</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266167940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PlasticLogic's business-class entry into the eReader market.  Why?  Standard business formats accepted (pdf, word, excel, etc.), basic markup/notes, nice size form factor, and the screen is made out of plastic.</p><p>My favorite demo of their product was them slamming a boot down onto the screen with no damage done.  My eReader is going in my bag, being used for school to get rid of all those piles of books I have to carry, and will be tossed around and abused.  A glass screen makes no sense, as it would break.</p><p>Of course, until then, since I try to avoid DRM books (I buy print and make my own personal-use eBooks) I'll stick to using my tablet PC.  After all, printing to Windows Journal allows me to use highlighters and pens to mark up my eBook quite easily.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PlasticLogic 's business-class entry into the eReader market .
Why ? Standard business formats accepted ( pdf , word , excel , etc .
) , basic markup/notes , nice size form factor , and the screen is made out of plastic.My favorite demo of their product was them slamming a boot down onto the screen with no damage done .
My eReader is going in my bag , being used for school to get rid of all those piles of books I have to carry , and will be tossed around and abused .
A glass screen makes no sense , as it would break.Of course , until then , since I try to avoid DRM books ( I buy print and make my own personal-use eBooks ) I 'll stick to using my tablet PC .
After all , printing to Windows Journal allows me to use highlighters and pens to mark up my eBook quite easily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PlasticLogic's business-class entry into the eReader market.
Why?  Standard business formats accepted (pdf, word, excel, etc.
), basic markup/notes, nice size form factor, and the screen is made out of plastic.My favorite demo of their product was them slamming a boot down onto the screen with no damage done.
My eReader is going in my bag, being used for school to get rid of all those piles of books I have to carry, and will be tossed around and abused.
A glass screen makes no sense, as it would break.Of course, until then, since I try to avoid DRM books (I buy print and make my own personal-use eBooks) I'll stick to using my tablet PC.
After all, printing to Windows Journal allows me to use highlighters and pens to mark up my eBook quite easily.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140860</id>
	<title>The Elephant in the Room</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1266170460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well there certainly are a lot of choices mentioned here.  The Kindle, Nook, iLiad, Sony reader...</p><p>But there seems to be something a little, well, lacking from the list.  Some other reader, that might be another popular option.  What could it be?</p><p>Oh yes, the iPad.  Of course it's not a valid answer now since it doesn't ship until March.</p><p>Which begs the question, when a device that is going to potentially upend the market comes out in under two months, why are you asking this question now?  To take a snapshot of the eBook market B.IP. for historical research?</p><p>I mean, at the very least you'd want an assessment of all potentially useful devices, and the iPad is as much a candidate as any of the ones listed even if you have some misgivings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well there certainly are a lot of choices mentioned here .
The Kindle , Nook , iLiad , Sony reader...But there seems to be something a little , well , lacking from the list .
Some other reader , that might be another popular option .
What could it be ? Oh yes , the iPad .
Of course it 's not a valid answer now since it does n't ship until March.Which begs the question , when a device that is going to potentially upend the market comes out in under two months , why are you asking this question now ?
To take a snapshot of the eBook market B.IP .
for historical research ? I mean , at the very least you 'd want an assessment of all potentially useful devices , and the iPad is as much a candidate as any of the ones listed even if you have some misgivings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well there certainly are a lot of choices mentioned here.
The Kindle, Nook, iLiad, Sony reader...But there seems to be something a little, well, lacking from the list.
Some other reader, that might be another popular option.
What could it be?Oh yes, the iPad.
Of course it's not a valid answer now since it doesn't ship until March.Which begs the question, when a device that is going to potentially upend the market comes out in under two months, why are you asking this question now?
To take a snapshot of the eBook market B.IP.
for historical research?I mean, at the very least you'd want an assessment of all potentially useful devices, and the iPad is as much a candidate as any of the ones listed even if you have some misgivings.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141424</id>
	<title>Something with a Pixel Qi screen</title>
	<author>eremos</author>
	<datestamp>1266177540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think the Pixel Qi screen technology (LCD but you can turn off backlight for direct sunlight e-ink like display) will bring some excellent products this year.

The Notion Ink Adam (due in June) already looks great, but is a little too big for casual reading. Will be great for textbooks, manuals and notes though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the Pixel Qi screen technology ( LCD but you can turn off backlight for direct sunlight e-ink like display ) will bring some excellent products this year .
The Notion Ink Adam ( due in June ) already looks great , but is a little too big for casual reading .
Will be great for textbooks , manuals and notes though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the Pixel Qi screen technology (LCD but you can turn off backlight for direct sunlight e-ink like display) will bring some excellent products this year.
The Notion Ink Adam (due in June) already looks great, but is a little too big for casual reading.
Will be great for textbooks, manuals and notes though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139658</id>
	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266159720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An excellent comment. After reading accounts similar to yours over the past few months, I made the following decision when I was given a Nook for Christmas. I purchase my books physically, but find a source on the web to get a digital copy at no cost that I can place on my device. With a number of excellent conversion utilities out there in FOSS land, I'm able to convert everything to e-Pub and have all of my books with me where ever I go. Device lost/destroyed/stolen? No problem, as I have backups on my PC, and feel no guilt, as I've purchased them - without having to buy twice. Not everyone will agree with this (some because the whole point is to not HAVE to buy physical books, others because "it's stealing" to have an electronic copy that I didn't purchase), but I have no qualms.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Posting AC because I'm on a friend's laptop. I'm 'jitterman'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An excellent comment .
After reading accounts similar to yours over the past few months , I made the following decision when I was given a Nook for Christmas .
I purchase my books physically , but find a source on the web to get a digital copy at no cost that I can place on my device .
With a number of excellent conversion utilities out there in FOSS land , I 'm able to convert everything to e-Pub and have all of my books with me where ever I go .
Device lost/destroyed/stolen ?
No problem , as I have backups on my PC , and feel no guilt , as I 've purchased them - without having to buy twice .
Not everyone will agree with this ( some because the whole point is to not HAVE to buy physical books , others because " it 's stealing " to have an electronic copy that I did n't purchase ) , but I have no qualms .
  Posting AC because I 'm on a friend 's laptop .
I 'm 'jitterman'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An excellent comment.
After reading accounts similar to yours over the past few months, I made the following decision when I was given a Nook for Christmas.
I purchase my books physically, but find a source on the web to get a digital copy at no cost that I can place on my device.
With a number of excellent conversion utilities out there in FOSS land, I'm able to convert everything to e-Pub and have all of my books with me where ever I go.
Device lost/destroyed/stolen?
No problem, as I have backups on my PC, and feel no guilt, as I've purchased them - without having to buy twice.
Not everyone will agree with this (some because the whole point is to not HAVE to buy physical books, others because "it's stealing" to have an electronic copy that I didn't purchase), but I have no qualms.
  Posting AC because I'm on a friend's laptop.
I'm 'jitterman'</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31144086</id>
	<title>Which ones can make PDF Reflow correctly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266249840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which ones of the models you're talking about have right PDF reflow capabilities??</p><p>Most of the ebooks I have now, are PDF files, and have code examples (indented) and formulas.</p><p>Since the normal page size of any of this documents is A4, and just zooming an A4 sheet to the ebook reader screen would be almost unreadable, I guess some of this ebook readers would be able to make the PDf reflow.</p><p>I haven't seen any software yet (even full blown PC software) capable of making a PDf reflow consistently with the content (again, formulas, columns, etc...).</p><p>Do your ebook do this fine? Oh, and yes, I tried to convert my pdf files to epub or other ebook formats, and not stanza, or calibre, o mobipocket can produce files from those pdf's maintaining the format.</p><p>Thanks a lot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which ones of the models you 're talking about have right PDF reflow capabilities ?
? Most of the ebooks I have now , are PDF files , and have code examples ( indented ) and formulas.Since the normal page size of any of this documents is A4 , and just zooming an A4 sheet to the ebook reader screen would be almost unreadable , I guess some of this ebook readers would be able to make the PDf reflow.I have n't seen any software yet ( even full blown PC software ) capable of making a PDf reflow consistently with the content ( again , formulas , columns , etc... ) .Do your ebook do this fine ?
Oh , and yes , I tried to convert my pdf files to epub or other ebook formats , and not stanza , or calibre , o mobipocket can produce files from those pdf 's maintaining the format.Thanks a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which ones of the models you're talking about have right PDF reflow capabilities?
?Most of the ebooks I have now, are PDF files, and have code examples (indented) and formulas.Since the normal page size of any of this documents is A4, and just zooming an A4 sheet to the ebook reader screen would be almost unreadable, I guess some of this ebook readers would be able to make the PDf reflow.I haven't seen any software yet (even full blown PC software) capable of making a PDf reflow consistently with the content (again, formulas, columns, etc...).Do your ebook do this fine?
Oh, and yes, I tried to convert my pdf files to epub or other ebook formats, and not stanza, or calibre, o mobipocket can produce files from those pdf's maintaining the format.Thanks a lot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138736</id>
	<title>Hint: It's not the 'open' ones...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266153480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As always, it's not the open ones that are the best ones.  Because the way the world works (and will forever work), the open ones will force its adopters to be years behind or delayed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As always , it 's not the open ones that are the best ones .
Because the way the world works ( and will forever work ) , the open ones will force its adopters to be years behind or delayed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As always, it's not the open ones that are the best ones.
Because the way the world works (and will forever work), the open ones will force its adopters to be years behind or delayed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141766</id>
	<title>Great subject</title>
	<author>avtchillsboro</author>
	<datestamp>1266224640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>for a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. poll.<br> <br>

Or two:  Ask respondents to rate economy e-book readers; and also e-book readers when price is no object.</htmltext>
<tokenext>for a / .
poll . Or two : Ask respondents to rate economy e-book readers ; and also e-book readers when price is no object .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for a /.
poll. 

Or two:  Ask respondents to rate economy e-book readers; and also e-book readers when price is no object.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139564</id>
	<title>The software for a ITouch/IPhone/IPad</title>
	<author>trevorgensch</author>
	<datestamp>1266159000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>is it wrong to say that the best Ebook reader is via software on an Itouch/Iphone/IPad?</p><p>Very happy with products like Bookshelf for the IPhone.  It read literally everything - pdf, lit, pdb, text, word etc etc  I can hardly wait until the IPad comes out, as reading books on the larger screen will make it the best option for me.</p><p>Trev.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is it wrong to say that the best Ebook reader is via software on an Itouch/Iphone/IPad ? Very happy with products like Bookshelf for the IPhone .
It read literally everything - pdf , lit , pdb , text , word etc etc I can hardly wait until the IPad comes out , as reading books on the larger screen will make it the best option for me.Trev .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is it wrong to say that the best Ebook reader is via software on an Itouch/Iphone/IPad?Very happy with products like Bookshelf for the IPhone.
It read literally everything - pdf, lit, pdb, text, word etc etc  I can hardly wait until the IPad comes out, as reading books on the larger screen will make it the best option for me.Trev.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139058</id>
	<title>It's all about content</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266155640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The situation in ebook readers today reminds me of the situation in portable digital music players in April 2003, the month Apple introduced the iTunes Store. There were literally thousands of portable digital music players out there, the vast majority of which looked like portable USB keyfobs as far as operating systems were concerned, all of which played open unencrypted mp3 files.  Then there was Apple selling their own proprietary-DRM'ed music files -- but it was integrated with the computer hardware and with their iPod music players. In the end people decided the convenience of having one application handle all their content whether local or located on a portable device was more important than the DRM, and the iPod won the portable digital music player contest by a landslide.
<p>
Right now, there are only three players that integrate content, software, and hardware: Sony, Amazon, and Barnes &amp; Noble. Amazon's Kindle wins the content war by a landslide, but their hardware looks dated and obsolete compared to the new readers from Sony and B&amp;N. Sony's content situation is horrible -- books from Sony's ebook store actually cost more than paper books purchased in bookstores! The Nook right now is unobtainium and a bit unstable, as you'd expect from version 1.0 of a product, but is decidedly better hardware.
</p><p>
The wildcard is Apple. Will they do for ebooks what they did for digital music? The problem is that the iPad will have, realistically, a 5 hour battery life in normal usage, and that just isn't enough for most situations where I might haul my e-book reader. If I'm doing an intercontinental flight that is 10 hours long, a 5 hour battery life is a "don't even bother" for me. My Sony e-reader, on the other hand, will happily let me read books for 10 hours at a time, and still have plenty of battery life left, thanks to the e-ink display. It's just that my selection of content is rather limited -- all I have on it, for the most part, is Baen Webscriptions stuff (no DRM, reasonable prices), and you can only read so much sci-fi warporn before you're sick and tired of sci-fi warporn.
</p><p>
So I'm keeping my eye on Apple. But unless Steve Jobs has a change of heart on e-ink (which he sneers at) or there's some revolution in LCD technology that allows it to generate readable displays without a backlight and thus get decent battery life (don't care if it's as good as e-ink battery life, but it has to be at least competitive with the Nook's battery life!), the hardware simply isn't good enough. Otherwise I'd be reading books on my iPhone via Stanza or etc., which I'm not doing because realistically I only get three hours of battery life that way -- far less than if I fire up my e-ink based reader.
</p><p>
Oh, what about all these *other* ebook readers? Some of them have nice hardware and software. But it's all about content, in the end. I suspect they'll end up just like all those portable digital music players that plugged in like keyfobs -- they'll still sell, but the readers that allow a fully integrated content cycle (purchase, transfer, read) will be the ones that most people buy, because for most people, they just want to purchase books in a convenient manner and not worry about how they get onto the ebook reader.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The situation in ebook readers today reminds me of the situation in portable digital music players in April 2003 , the month Apple introduced the iTunes Store .
There were literally thousands of portable digital music players out there , the vast majority of which looked like portable USB keyfobs as far as operating systems were concerned , all of which played open unencrypted mp3 files .
Then there was Apple selling their own proprietary-DRM'ed music files -- but it was integrated with the computer hardware and with their iPod music players .
In the end people decided the convenience of having one application handle all their content whether local or located on a portable device was more important than the DRM , and the iPod won the portable digital music player contest by a landslide .
Right now , there are only three players that integrate content , software , and hardware : Sony , Amazon , and Barnes &amp; Noble .
Amazon 's Kindle wins the content war by a landslide , but their hardware looks dated and obsolete compared to the new readers from Sony and B&amp;N .
Sony 's content situation is horrible -- books from Sony 's ebook store actually cost more than paper books purchased in bookstores !
The Nook right now is unobtainium and a bit unstable , as you 'd expect from version 1.0 of a product , but is decidedly better hardware .
The wildcard is Apple .
Will they do for ebooks what they did for digital music ?
The problem is that the iPad will have , realistically , a 5 hour battery life in normal usage , and that just is n't enough for most situations where I might haul my e-book reader .
If I 'm doing an intercontinental flight that is 10 hours long , a 5 hour battery life is a " do n't even bother " for me .
My Sony e-reader , on the other hand , will happily let me read books for 10 hours at a time , and still have plenty of battery life left , thanks to the e-ink display .
It 's just that my selection of content is rather limited -- all I have on it , for the most part , is Baen Webscriptions stuff ( no DRM , reasonable prices ) , and you can only read so much sci-fi warporn before you 're sick and tired of sci-fi warporn .
So I 'm keeping my eye on Apple .
But unless Steve Jobs has a change of heart on e-ink ( which he sneers at ) or there 's some revolution in LCD technology that allows it to generate readable displays without a backlight and thus get decent battery life ( do n't care if it 's as good as e-ink battery life , but it has to be at least competitive with the Nook 's battery life !
) , the hardware simply is n't good enough .
Otherwise I 'd be reading books on my iPhone via Stanza or etc. , which I 'm not doing because realistically I only get three hours of battery life that way -- far less than if I fire up my e-ink based reader .
Oh , what about all these * other * ebook readers ?
Some of them have nice hardware and software .
But it 's all about content , in the end .
I suspect they 'll end up just like all those portable digital music players that plugged in like keyfobs -- they 'll still sell , but the readers that allow a fully integrated content cycle ( purchase , transfer , read ) will be the ones that most people buy , because for most people , they just want to purchase books in a convenient manner and not worry about how they get onto the ebook reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The situation in ebook readers today reminds me of the situation in portable digital music players in April 2003, the month Apple introduced the iTunes Store.
There were literally thousands of portable digital music players out there, the vast majority of which looked like portable USB keyfobs as far as operating systems were concerned, all of which played open unencrypted mp3 files.
Then there was Apple selling their own proprietary-DRM'ed music files -- but it was integrated with the computer hardware and with their iPod music players.
In the end people decided the convenience of having one application handle all their content whether local or located on a portable device was more important than the DRM, and the iPod won the portable digital music player contest by a landslide.
Right now, there are only three players that integrate content, software, and hardware: Sony, Amazon, and Barnes &amp; Noble.
Amazon's Kindle wins the content war by a landslide, but their hardware looks dated and obsolete compared to the new readers from Sony and B&amp;N.
Sony's content situation is horrible -- books from Sony's ebook store actually cost more than paper books purchased in bookstores!
The Nook right now is unobtainium and a bit unstable, as you'd expect from version 1.0 of a product, but is decidedly better hardware.
The wildcard is Apple.
Will they do for ebooks what they did for digital music?
The problem is that the iPad will have, realistically, a 5 hour battery life in normal usage, and that just isn't enough for most situations where I might haul my e-book reader.
If I'm doing an intercontinental flight that is 10 hours long, a 5 hour battery life is a "don't even bother" for me.
My Sony e-reader, on the other hand, will happily let me read books for 10 hours at a time, and still have plenty of battery life left, thanks to the e-ink display.
It's just that my selection of content is rather limited -- all I have on it, for the most part, is Baen Webscriptions stuff (no DRM, reasonable prices), and you can only read so much sci-fi warporn before you're sick and tired of sci-fi warporn.
So I'm keeping my eye on Apple.
But unless Steve Jobs has a change of heart on e-ink (which he sneers at) or there's some revolution in LCD technology that allows it to generate readable displays without a backlight and thus get decent battery life (don't care if it's as good as e-ink battery life, but it has to be at least competitive with the Nook's battery life!
), the hardware simply isn't good enough.
Otherwise I'd be reading books on my iPhone via Stanza or etc., which I'm not doing because realistically I only get three hours of battery life that way -- far less than if I fire up my e-ink based reader.
Oh, what about all these *other* ebook readers?
Some of them have nice hardware and software.
But it's all about content, in the end.
I suspect they'll end up just like all those portable digital music players that plugged in like keyfobs -- they'll still sell, but the readers that allow a fully integrated content cycle (purchase, transfer, read) will be the ones that most people buy, because for most people, they just want to purchase books in a convenient manner and not worry about how they get onto the ebook reader.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138826</id>
	<title>Re:iPad?</title>
	<author>proxima</author>
	<datestamp>1266154080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What? People on here will not consider a Kindle because it has drm in it but they will consider the iPad.</p></div></blockquote><p>The kindle is more locked down in many ways than the ipad (well, than the ipad will be when it's released).  The ipad supports epub, and most people seem convinced that Amazon and Barnes and Noble will port their iphone apps to the larger ipad screen.  The ipad may have its apps available only through the app store, but it's going to support far more file formats than the kindle.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
People on here will not consider a Kindle because it has drm in it but they will consider the iPad.The kindle is more locked down in many ways than the ipad ( well , than the ipad will be when it 's released ) .
The ipad supports epub , and most people seem convinced that Amazon and Barnes and Noble will port their iphone apps to the larger ipad screen .
The ipad may have its apps available only through the app store , but it 's going to support far more file formats than the kindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
People on here will not consider a Kindle because it has drm in it but they will consider the iPad.The kindle is more locked down in many ways than the ipad (well, than the ipad will be when it's released).
The ipad supports epub, and most people seem convinced that Amazon and Barnes and Noble will port their iphone apps to the larger ipad screen.
The ipad may have its apps available only through the app store, but it's going to support far more file formats than the kindle.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142846</id>
	<title>Blackberry phone</title>
	<author>cellmats</author>
	<datestamp>1266239040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've used all my Blackberries for e-book reading with Mobipocket. I sure don't see the reason to by a unit that only does e-books. With my Blackberry I listen to music, play games, read emails, and fiction e-books. Oh, I can also use it for phone calls. The e-book readers seem to be developed for people who don't have mobile phones or for corporations that need to find yet another gadget we don't have lying around at home already.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've used all my Blackberries for e-book reading with Mobipocket .
I sure do n't see the reason to by a unit that only does e-books .
With my Blackberry I listen to music , play games , read emails , and fiction e-books .
Oh , I can also use it for phone calls .
The e-book readers seem to be developed for people who do n't have mobile phones or for corporations that need to find yet another gadget we do n't have lying around at home already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've used all my Blackberries for e-book reading with Mobipocket.
I sure don't see the reason to by a unit that only does e-books.
With my Blackberry I listen to music, play games, read emails, and fiction e-books.
Oh, I can also use it for phone calls.
The e-book readers seem to be developed for people who don't have mobile phones or for corporations that need to find yet another gadget we don't have lying around at home already.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31213950</id>
	<title>Re:It hasn't been invented yet.</title>
	<author>tomhudson</author>
	<datestamp>1266667440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I want something more like an 8-1/2 x 14.  Turned sideways, it almost exactly accommodates a 1920x1080 HD display. It would be big enough to have more than one person use it at a time, it has room for several terabytes of storage, and it can be made today using a 17" lapotp display panel.  Also, it would be able to display 2 pages side-by-side "just like a real book".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I want something more like an 8-1/2 x 14 .
Turned sideways , it almost exactly accommodates a 1920x1080 HD display .
It would be big enough to have more than one person use it at a time , it has room for several terabytes of storage , and it can be made today using a 17 " lapotp display panel .
Also , it would be able to display 2 pages side-by-side " just like a real book " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want something more like an 8-1/2 x 14.
Turned sideways, it almost exactly accommodates a 1920x1080 HD display.
It would be big enough to have more than one person use it at a time, it has room for several terabytes of storage, and it can be made today using a 17" lapotp display panel.
Also, it would be able to display 2 pages side-by-side "just like a real book".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142056</id>
	<title>10 hours?  More like 15...</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1266228240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just a quick note on battery life - the stated time is 10 hours browsing or playing video.</p><p>So if I'm on a plane and have turned off Wi-Fi - I fully expect to get more than ten hours from an iPad.   Apple's estimated battery times are usually pretty good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just a quick note on battery life - the stated time is 10 hours browsing or playing video.So if I 'm on a plane and have turned off Wi-Fi - I fully expect to get more than ten hours from an iPad .
Apple 's estimated battery times are usually pretty good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just a quick note on battery life - the stated time is 10 hours browsing or playing video.So if I'm on a plane and have turned off Wi-Fi - I fully expect to get more than ten hours from an iPad.
Apple's estimated battery times are usually pretty good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142688</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266237180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still use my PDA as an e-reader. (IPAQ HX4700)</p><p>The advantage it has over e-ink devices is that it can run in continuous scroll mode enabling totally hands-free reading.</p><p>Hands-free reading is great in the bath, in bed on cold nights and especially when sprawled and contorted over a couch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still use my PDA as an e-reader .
( IPAQ HX4700 ) The advantage it has over e-ink devices is that it can run in continuous scroll mode enabling totally hands-free reading.Hands-free reading is great in the bath , in bed on cold nights and especially when sprawled and contorted over a couch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still use my PDA as an e-reader.
(IPAQ HX4700)The advantage it has over e-ink devices is that it can run in continuous scroll mode enabling totally hands-free reading.Hands-free reading is great in the bath, in bed on cold nights and especially when sprawled and contorted over a couch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138210</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139574</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266159120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're a shit to read in bed with though. And ultimately that's the most important consideration for me when it comes to an ebook reader.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're a shit to read in bed with though .
And ultimately that 's the most important consideration for me when it comes to an ebook reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're a shit to read in bed with though.
And ultimately that's the most important consideration for me when it comes to an ebook reader.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138916</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Trogre</author>
	<datestamp>1266154620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All well and good, but:</p><ul><li>As already mentioned here, storage capacity is severely limited</li><li>You have to turn the pages yourself</li><li>You can't grep a dead tree</li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>All well and good , but : As already mentioned here , storage capacity is severely limitedYou have to turn the pages yourselfYou ca n't grep a dead tree</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All well and good, but:As already mentioned here, storage capacity is severely limitedYou have to turn the pages yourselfYou can't grep a dead tree</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138336</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138836</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266154140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I only read one book at a time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I only read one book at a time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I only read one book at a time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138548</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143022</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266241740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But has the ebook reader helped you read them any faster? So why do you need to carry so many?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But has the ebook reader helped you read them any faster ?
So why do you need to carry so many ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But has the ebook reader helped you read them any faster?
So why do you need to carry so many?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138548</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139438</id>
	<title>Traditionalist - I still prefer...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266158220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Call me traditionalist, but I still prefer DeadTree 1.0. No batteries, no online connection required, no sudden DRM-related erasures, does not date as new reader technology comes out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Call me traditionalist , but I still prefer DeadTree 1.0 .
No batteries , no online connection required , no sudden DRM-related erasures , does not date as new reader technology comes out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Call me traditionalist, but I still prefer DeadTree 1.0.
No batteries, no online connection required, no sudden DRM-related erasures, does not date as new reader technology comes out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140008</id>
	<title>E-reader/Raider</title>
	<author>NSN A392-99-964-5927</author>
	<datestamp>1266162540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kindles are bit of a problem..Amazon is becoming a problem. DRM is regarding Kindles is shutting the books you paid for down. I am not that bothered as I can hack a kindle and stick half a million books on your kindle. My buddy in the USA founder of Juniper Networks and I laugh about this all the time. We both laugh regarding the data that is trying to be controllled.

You cannot control me, you never will and you cannot control slashdot either, Bit of a bastard when you are a guru!

Love you all;

NSN</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kindles are bit of a problem..Amazon is becoming a problem .
DRM is regarding Kindles is shutting the books you paid for down .
I am not that bothered as I can hack a kindle and stick half a million books on your kindle .
My buddy in the USA founder of Juniper Networks and I laugh about this all the time .
We both laugh regarding the data that is trying to be controllled .
You can not control me , you never will and you can not control slashdot either , Bit of a bastard when you are a guru !
Love you all ; NSN</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kindles are bit of a problem..Amazon is becoming a problem.
DRM is regarding Kindles is shutting the books you paid for down.
I am not that bothered as I can hack a kindle and stick half a million books on your kindle.
My buddy in the USA founder of Juniper Networks and I laugh about this all the time.
We both laugh regarding the data that is trying to be controllled.
You cannot control me, you never will and you cannot control slashdot either, Bit of a bastard when you are a guru!
Love you all;

NSN</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138820</id>
	<title>Who knows...</title>
	<author>xlsior</author>
	<datestamp>1266154080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I like the Sony PRS-505, but those have been discontinued...<br>
<br>
Sony kind of shot themselves in the foot there: the 'budget' PRS-300 has a nice quality screen except it's too small, and the higher end PRS-600 has a decent size screen but gives you a lot  more glare and a crappy contrast ratio, courtesy of its added touchscreen layer...<br> There really is a huge difference though, I'd recommend you try to find a display unit somewhere before actually comitting to ordering one.<br>
<br>
The nook looks nice (touchscreen is a seperate color LCD screen which does not muddle up the e-Ink display), but trivial operations like changing the font size are much more elaborate on those...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like the Sony PRS-505 , but those have been discontinued.. . Sony kind of shot themselves in the foot there : the 'budget ' PRS-300 has a nice quality screen except it 's too small , and the higher end PRS-600 has a decent size screen but gives you a lot more glare and a crappy contrast ratio , courtesy of its added touchscreen layer... There really is a huge difference though , I 'd recommend you try to find a display unit somewhere before actually comitting to ordering one .
The nook looks nice ( touchscreen is a seperate color LCD screen which does not muddle up the e-Ink display ) , but trivial operations like changing the font size are much more elaborate on those.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like the Sony PRS-505, but those have been discontinued...

Sony kind of shot themselves in the foot there: the 'budget' PRS-300 has a nice quality screen except it's too small, and the higher end PRS-600 has a decent size screen but gives you a lot  more glare and a crappy contrast ratio, courtesy of its added touchscreen layer... There really is a huge difference though, I'd recommend you try to find a display unit somewhere before actually comitting to ordering one.
The nook looks nice (touchscreen is a seperate color LCD screen which does not muddle up the e-Ink display), but trivial operations like changing the font size are much more elaborate on those...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139320</id>
	<title>What about markup?</title>
	<author>Weezul</author>
	<datestamp>1266157440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do the various ebook readers that support markup compare?  Only readers with stylus support need apply, obviously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do the various ebook readers that support markup compare ?
Only readers with stylus support need apply , obviously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do the various ebook readers that support markup compare?
Only readers with stylus support need apply, obviously.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139220</id>
	<title>txtr</title>
	<author>tafkadasoh</author>
	<datestamp>1266156720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm waiting for the txtr reader. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizpac\_txtr" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizpac\_txtr</a> [wikipedia.org]. As of today it's not available, only for preorder. They want to sell it for 300 euro, but have dropped the wlan module.  It runs linux, is supposed to read all major formats and they'll provide an SDK <a href="http://developer.txtr.com/Introduction" title="txtr.com" rel="nofollow">http://developer.txtr.com/Introduction</a> [txtr.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm waiting for the txtr reader .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizpac \ _txtr [ wikipedia.org ] .
As of today it 's not available , only for preorder .
They want to sell it for 300 euro , but have dropped the wlan module .
It runs linux , is supposed to read all major formats and they 'll provide an SDK http : //developer.txtr.com/Introduction [ txtr.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm waiting for the txtr reader.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizpac\_txtr [wikipedia.org].
As of today it's not available, only for preorder.
They want to sell it for 300 euro, but have dropped the wlan module.
It runs linux, is supposed to read all major formats and they'll provide an SDK http://developer.txtr.com/Introduction [txtr.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138856</id>
	<title>6. CowboyNeal</title>
	<author>Drishmung</author>
	<datestamp>1266154260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You insensitive clod.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You insensitive clod .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You insensitive clod.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140324</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Joe Tie.</author>
	<datestamp>1266165600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Woosh indeed! It's almost like different people might have different needs than you! But that's obviously a ridiculous idea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Woosh indeed !
It 's almost like different people might have different needs than you !
But that 's obviously a ridiculous idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Woosh indeed!
It's almost like different people might have different needs than you!
But that's obviously a ridiculous idea.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139448</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139742</id>
	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>juancnuno</author>
	<datestamp>1266160380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I've seriously considered writing to Jeff Bezos and saying I will only buy a Kindle if he will arrange to get me free Kindle copies of all the books I bought, which the eBook industry has rendered useless piles of bits. The word theft gets thrown around rather casually with DRM gets discussed. Well, I feel that denying me access to the books I bought and paid for in good faith is theft. When the eBook industry, as represented by Amazon, is willing to make me whole, then I will start buying eBook devices and content again.</p></div></blockquote><p>You should! Cut-and-paste that whole comment and send it to him.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've seriously considered writing to Jeff Bezos and saying I will only buy a Kindle if he will arrange to get me free Kindle copies of all the books I bought , which the eBook industry has rendered useless piles of bits .
The word theft gets thrown around rather casually with DRM gets discussed .
Well , I feel that denying me access to the books I bought and paid for in good faith is theft .
When the eBook industry , as represented by Amazon , is willing to make me whole , then I will start buying eBook devices and content again.You should !
Cut-and-paste that whole comment and send it to him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've seriously considered writing to Jeff Bezos and saying I will only buy a Kindle if he will arrange to get me free Kindle copies of all the books I bought, which the eBook industry has rendered useless piles of bits.
The word theft gets thrown around rather casually with DRM gets discussed.
Well, I feel that denying me access to the books I bought and paid for in good faith is theft.
When the eBook industry, as represented by Amazon, is willing to make me whole, then I will start buying eBook devices and content again.You should!
Cut-and-paste that whole comment and send it to him.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139448</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>dirkdodgers</author>
	<datestamp>1266158280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Woosh.</p><p>But if you are a casual reader like most people here, you don't have any need to carry thousands of books with you. You carry one book with you, or if you're going on a trip, you carry a few.</p><p>Not to mention, the environmental impact of that entire bookcase of books is still far less than the environmental impact of the manufacture and operation of a single Kindle.</p><p>The day I have to recharge the battery in my books is the day I stop reading books.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Woosh.But if you are a casual reader like most people here , you do n't have any need to carry thousands of books with you .
You carry one book with you , or if you 're going on a trip , you carry a few.Not to mention , the environmental impact of that entire bookcase of books is still far less than the environmental impact of the manufacture and operation of a single Kindle.The day I have to recharge the battery in my books is the day I stop reading books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Woosh.But if you are a casual reader like most people here, you don't have any need to carry thousands of books with you.
You carry one book with you, or if you're going on a trip, you carry a few.Not to mention, the environmental impact of that entire bookcase of books is still far less than the environmental impact of the manufacture and operation of a single Kindle.The day I have to recharge the battery in my books is the day I stop reading books.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139422</id>
	<title>Hanvon n516 with the OpenInkPot firmware.</title>
	<author>shocking</author>
	<datestamp>1266158040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have one of these - 5 inch e-ink screen, with the supplied firmware replaced with the OpenInkPort (http://openinkpot.org) stuff. Works well.  Reads just about every ebook format there is. All the source code is open and can be compiled by yourself using a the cross-platfor environment IPLinux. You can even ssh into it from the USB connection (no wireless). I have over 2000 books and short stories loaded into a 2GB SDHC card that came with it.</p><p>I also have a Merlin HYGE0109B, with a 6 inch screen, but that's still running proprietary firmware, which only supports TXT and PDF. It gets a bit flakey when you have more than 64 books loaded. There is an OpenInkPort port in progress to this device, which is not complete yet.</p><p>Both these devices can be managed by the Calibre ebook manager, which runs under Linux, OSX and Windows (and there's also a port to FreeBSD, and possibly others)</p><p>The wireless access and ability to buy DRM'd books from one book store are not things I'm particularly interested in. I am aware that there are cracks for DRM'd epub books from B&amp;N, as well as those using the Adobe DRM, but still, there's a bunch of classics out there, as well as  independent publishers such as Baen. Visit Gutenberg.org, Feedbooks, to mention a few, and you'll be pleasantly surprised.</p><p>I intend purchasing a unit with a 10 inch screen when they become more available at the end of this year, so I'm able to view PDFs without having to zoom in. This is a good size for textbooks and other puiblications utilising diagrams.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have one of these - 5 inch e-ink screen , with the supplied firmware replaced with the OpenInkPort ( http : //openinkpot.org ) stuff .
Works well .
Reads just about every ebook format there is .
All the source code is open and can be compiled by yourself using a the cross-platfor environment IPLinux .
You can even ssh into it from the USB connection ( no wireless ) .
I have over 2000 books and short stories loaded into a 2GB SDHC card that came with it.I also have a Merlin HYGE0109B , with a 6 inch screen , but that 's still running proprietary firmware , which only supports TXT and PDF .
It gets a bit flakey when you have more than 64 books loaded .
There is an OpenInkPort port in progress to this device , which is not complete yet.Both these devices can be managed by the Calibre ebook manager , which runs under Linux , OSX and Windows ( and there 's also a port to FreeBSD , and possibly others ) The wireless access and ability to buy DRM 'd books from one book store are not things I 'm particularly interested in .
I am aware that there are cracks for DRM 'd epub books from B&amp;N , as well as those using the Adobe DRM , but still , there 's a bunch of classics out there , as well as independent publishers such as Baen .
Visit Gutenberg.org , Feedbooks , to mention a few , and you 'll be pleasantly surprised.I intend purchasing a unit with a 10 inch screen when they become more available at the end of this year , so I 'm able to view PDFs without having to zoom in .
This is a good size for textbooks and other puiblications utilising diagrams .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have one of these - 5 inch e-ink screen, with the supplied firmware replaced with the OpenInkPort (http://openinkpot.org) stuff.
Works well.
Reads just about every ebook format there is.
All the source code is open and can be compiled by yourself using a the cross-platfor environment IPLinux.
You can even ssh into it from the USB connection (no wireless).
I have over 2000 books and short stories loaded into a 2GB SDHC card that came with it.I also have a Merlin HYGE0109B, with a 6 inch screen, but that's still running proprietary firmware, which only supports TXT and PDF.
It gets a bit flakey when you have more than 64 books loaded.
There is an OpenInkPort port in progress to this device, which is not complete yet.Both these devices can be managed by the Calibre ebook manager, which runs under Linux, OSX and Windows (and there's also a port to FreeBSD, and possibly others)The wireless access and ability to buy DRM'd books from one book store are not things I'm particularly interested in.
I am aware that there are cracks for DRM'd epub books from B&amp;N, as well as those using the Adobe DRM, but still, there's a bunch of classics out there, as well as  independent publishers such as Baen.
Visit Gutenberg.org, Feedbooks, to mention a few, and you'll be pleasantly surprised.I intend purchasing a unit with a 10 inch screen when they become more available at the end of this year, so I'm able to view PDFs without having to zoom in.
This is a good size for textbooks and other puiblications utilising diagrams.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141026</id>
	<title>My 2 Cents</title>
	<author>gaelfx</author>
	<datestamp>1266172680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I found a couple of websites to download some Public Domain/Creative Commons books, only one of which really ended up appealing to me. I realize that sounds like a pretty trite struggle, but I assure that it was significant for me because Gutenberg Project is blocked in good ol' China, so I had to find an alternative source, namely Manybooks.net. After that, the struggle turned to finding a decent and preferably GENUINE eReader that actually uses eInk/ePaper or whatever you want to call it that was cheap enough for me. I don't believe that these devices should have bluetooth or wifi or all that fancy battery eating crap because I want to use the damned thing to read! If I want all that other crap, I use my phone or netbook which are both perfectly portable, have all those capabilities and have decent batterylife to boot, the netbook even has a built-in card reader, so I have no need for connecting my device to my computer when I can just plop the card in there. So, I ended up buying a Chinese brand, Teclast (  to us here), which just last month started selling its eReader named "K3" ( <a href="http://www.teclast.com/zhuanti/tl-k3/" title="teclast.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.teclast.com/zhuanti/tl-k3/</a> [teclast.com] ). Apologies for the link to the Chinese website, but it's all they have for the moment. At any rate, I got it for a number of reasons: it doesn't have wifi or bluetooth, it reads most file formats I could possibly want to use with it (mainly epub) and it was about half the price of any other eReader I could find here. Now, from what I've heard the US price will be about $220, which is not exactly cheap, but I can tell you that if you can make it to China, you can get it for about 1250RMB, which is roughly $170.

The long and the short of it is I want an eReader to read books. Other functions, to me, are somewhat useless on these devices, especially the ones that drain the battery faster.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I found a couple of websites to download some Public Domain/Creative Commons books , only one of which really ended up appealing to me .
I realize that sounds like a pretty trite struggle , but I assure that it was significant for me because Gutenberg Project is blocked in good ol ' China , so I had to find an alternative source , namely Manybooks.net .
After that , the struggle turned to finding a decent and preferably GENUINE eReader that actually uses eInk/ePaper or whatever you want to call it that was cheap enough for me .
I do n't believe that these devices should have bluetooth or wifi or all that fancy battery eating crap because I want to use the damned thing to read !
If I want all that other crap , I use my phone or netbook which are both perfectly portable , have all those capabilities and have decent batterylife to boot , the netbook even has a built-in card reader , so I have no need for connecting my device to my computer when I can just plop the card in there .
So , I ended up buying a Chinese brand , Teclast ( to us here ) , which just last month started selling its eReader named " K3 " ( http : //www.teclast.com/zhuanti/tl-k3/ [ teclast.com ] ) .
Apologies for the link to the Chinese website , but it 's all they have for the moment .
At any rate , I got it for a number of reasons : it does n't have wifi or bluetooth , it reads most file formats I could possibly want to use with it ( mainly epub ) and it was about half the price of any other eReader I could find here .
Now , from what I 've heard the US price will be about $ 220 , which is not exactly cheap , but I can tell you that if you can make it to China , you can get it for about 1250RMB , which is roughly $ 170 .
The long and the short of it is I want an eReader to read books .
Other functions , to me , are somewhat useless on these devices , especially the ones that drain the battery faster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I found a couple of websites to download some Public Domain/Creative Commons books, only one of which really ended up appealing to me.
I realize that sounds like a pretty trite struggle, but I assure that it was significant for me because Gutenberg Project is blocked in good ol' China, so I had to find an alternative source, namely Manybooks.net.
After that, the struggle turned to finding a decent and preferably GENUINE eReader that actually uses eInk/ePaper or whatever you want to call it that was cheap enough for me.
I don't believe that these devices should have bluetooth or wifi or all that fancy battery eating crap because I want to use the damned thing to read!
If I want all that other crap, I use my phone or netbook which are both perfectly portable, have all those capabilities and have decent batterylife to boot, the netbook even has a built-in card reader, so I have no need for connecting my device to my computer when I can just plop the card in there.
So, I ended up buying a Chinese brand, Teclast (  to us here), which just last month started selling its eReader named "K3" ( http://www.teclast.com/zhuanti/tl-k3/ [teclast.com] ).
Apologies for the link to the Chinese website, but it's all they have for the moment.
At any rate, I got it for a number of reasons: it doesn't have wifi or bluetooth, it reads most file formats I could possibly want to use with it (mainly epub) and it was about half the price of any other eReader I could find here.
Now, from what I've heard the US price will be about $220, which is not exactly cheap, but I can tell you that if you can make it to China, you can get it for about 1250RMB, which is roughly $170.
The long and the short of it is I want an eReader to read books.
Other functions, to me, are somewhat useless on these devices, especially the ones that drain the battery faster.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139108</id>
	<title>Ectaco Jetbook lite</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266155940000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This device has a lcd screen like those old casio watches (which has the same "no eye strain" feature of e-ink), runs on 4 AA for 23 hrs (another model is advertised with builtin battery), 5" screen and costs $150. Ive seen this advertised at a local electronics store but with the 'backorder' status.</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFN0qYcA2g4</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This device has a lcd screen like those old casio watches ( which has the same " no eye strain " feature of e-ink ) , runs on 4 AA for 23 hrs ( another model is advertised with builtin battery ) , 5 " screen and costs $ 150 .
Ive seen this advertised at a local electronics store but with the 'backorder ' status.http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = yFN0qYcA2g4</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This device has a lcd screen like those old casio watches (which has the same "no eye strain" feature of e-ink), runs on 4 AA for 23 hrs (another model is advertised with builtin battery), 5" screen and costs $150.
Ive seen this advertised at a local electronics store but with the 'backorder' status.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFN0qYcA2g4</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142244</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266230940000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A hint: adjust the brightness of the screen until it is similar to the brightness of your environment. That is an effective way of preventing eyestrain (a.k.a. preventing your eyes from melting), because your eyes do not need to adjust constantly between the brightness of your screen and the light of your environment. With that and a good contrast and resolution (and the N800 definitely has both), your eyes will not suffer more than with an old-fashioned dead-tree book. At least that is my experience after reading several dozens of books in my N800 and several hundreds (probably thousands), on paper.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A hint : adjust the brightness of the screen until it is similar to the brightness of your environment .
That is an effective way of preventing eyestrain ( a.k.a .
preventing your eyes from melting ) , because your eyes do not need to adjust constantly between the brightness of your screen and the light of your environment .
With that and a good contrast and resolution ( and the N800 definitely has both ) , your eyes will not suffer more than with an old-fashioned dead-tree book .
At least that is my experience after reading several dozens of books in my N800 and several hundreds ( probably thousands ) , on paper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A hint: adjust the brightness of the screen until it is similar to the brightness of your environment.
That is an effective way of preventing eyestrain (a.k.a.
preventing your eyes from melting), because your eyes do not need to adjust constantly between the brightness of your screen and the light of your environment.
With that and a good contrast and resolution (and the N800 definitely has both), your eyes will not suffer more than with an old-fashioned dead-tree book.
At least that is my experience after reading several dozens of books in my N800 and several hundreds (probably thousands), on paper.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138324</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266150780000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People seem to like the EZ Reader, for it is cheap and small.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People seem to like the EZ Reader , for it is cheap and small .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People seem to like the EZ Reader, for it is cheap and small.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141324</id>
	<title>IREX Digital Reader !</title>
	<author>Foske</author>
	<datestamp>1266176700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's simply the best ! Oh, and I got family working in IREX, but of course I won't tell you that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's simply the best !
Oh , and I got family working in IREX , but of course I wo n't tell you that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's simply the best !
Oh, and I got family working in IREX, but of course I won't tell you that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140956</id>
	<title>Unquestionably Sony</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266172020000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unquestionably the Sony  for the price / capability tradeoff  - but the  non touch screen version (friends with the touch screens one find them a little harder to read)  - and I suggest using Calibre software rather than Sony's software.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; And for those that are thinking of the IPAD.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Its a different market altogther - My sony goes weeks on a single charge. I dont need to worry about DRM or hacking from WIFI. I can load up months and months of books so the lack of wifi if fine - it makes the device safer.  When using calibre - it works with Linux (which I uses) or Mac or windows and any book I read on it - I know I can read again on my next ebook reader and my next one.<br>It's  very easy on the eyes. It uses virtually no power except when changing the page so I have convinced them to let me use it during take off and landing on planes (not invariably but more often than not - you wont succeed with that with an IPAD - and would be breaking the law if u did)</p><p>THINK BOOK - if its a book you want as close to a book as possible with more benefits - not disadvantages. My NETbook fills other needs very well but the Ebook reader is irreplaceable !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unquestionably the Sony for the price / capability tradeoff - but the non touch screen version ( friends with the touch screens one find them a little harder to read ) - and I suggest using Calibre software rather than Sony 's software .
    And for those that are thinking of the IPAD .
    Its a different market altogther - My sony goes weeks on a single charge .
I dont need to worry about DRM or hacking from WIFI .
I can load up months and months of books so the lack of wifi if fine - it makes the device safer .
When using calibre - it works with Linux ( which I uses ) or Mac or windows and any book I read on it - I know I can read again on my next ebook reader and my next one.It 's very easy on the eyes .
It uses virtually no power except when changing the page so I have convinced them to let me use it during take off and landing on planes ( not invariably but more often than not - you wont succeed with that with an IPAD - and would be breaking the law if u did ) THINK BOOK - if its a book you want as close to a book as possible with more benefits - not disadvantages .
My NETbook fills other needs very well but the Ebook reader is irreplaceable !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unquestionably the Sony  for the price / capability tradeoff  - but the  non touch screen version (friends with the touch screens one find them a little harder to read)  - and I suggest using Calibre software rather than Sony's software.
    And for those that are thinking of the IPAD.
    Its a different market altogther - My sony goes weeks on a single charge.
I dont need to worry about DRM or hacking from WIFI.
I can load up months and months of books so the lack of wifi if fine - it makes the device safer.
When using calibre - it works with Linux (which I uses) or Mac or windows and any book I read on it - I know I can read again on my next ebook reader and my next one.It's  very easy on the eyes.
It uses virtually no power except when changing the page so I have convinced them to let me use it during take off and landing on planes (not invariably but more often than not - you wont succeed with that with an IPAD - and would be breaking the law if u did)THINK BOOK - if its a book you want as close to a book as possible with more benefits - not disadvantages.
My NETbook fills other needs very well but the Ebook reader is irreplaceable !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138496</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>rjch</author>
	<datestamp>1266151860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A laptop.</p></div><p>Personally, I'd have said "a netbook", but maybe I'm just splitting hairs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A laptop.Personally , I 'd have said " a netbook " , but maybe I 'm just splitting hairs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A laptop.Personally, I'd have said "a netbook", but maybe I'm just splitting hairs.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139772</id>
	<title>http://www.mobileread.com/</title>
	<author>Lunatrik</author>
	<datestamp>1266160560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thought this would be a nice time to throw out a website:<br>
<a href="http://www.mobileread.com/" title="mobileread.com">http://www.mobileread.com/</a> [mobileread.com] <br>
is a great community of e-book fanatics.  Lots of research comparing different models, a nice flea market for deals, and the forums attached to Calibre, an awesome book-managing software.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thought this would be a nice time to throw out a website : http : //www.mobileread.com/ [ mobileread.com ] is a great community of e-book fanatics .
Lots of research comparing different models , a nice flea market for deals , and the forums attached to Calibre , an awesome book-managing software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thought this would be a nice time to throw out a website:
http://www.mobileread.com/ [mobileread.com] 
is a great community of e-book fanatics.
Lots of research comparing different models, a nice flea market for deals, and the forums attached to Calibre, an awesome book-managing software.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138436</id>
	<title>Re:Unless you're in US the answer is NONE</title>
	<author>martin-boundary</author>
	<datestamp>1266151560000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try <a href="http://www.mybebook.com/" title="mybebook.com">bebook</a> [mybebook.com], it's a Dutch company.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try bebook [ mybebook.com ] , it 's a Dutch company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try bebook [mybebook.com], it's a Dutch company.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138898</id>
	<title>Re:Follow-up question: what's available in Canada?</title>
	<author>notjustchalk</author>
	<datestamp>1266154500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These are what's easily available in Canada. There are tons more, but all have to be shipped in for a extra $ (including the Kindle).</p><p><b>Eink Readers</b></p><ul><li>Sony's portable reader ebook line are available (current models are the 5" screen PRS300 and the 6" screen PRS600). Look around on Dell.ca or Ncix, they sometimes go on decent sales (e.g. ~200+ for the PRS300). Sadly, the PRS500 (imo, the best one) has been discontinued, though you might find some on clearance every now and then. There is a 9" model, the PRS900 "Daily Edition" but for whatever reason, it's not available here (yet?).</li><li>Astak Mentor (6") and EZ Reader Pocket-Pro (5") ebook readers, from Newegg.ca. The 5" is the newer and more featureful version.</li><li>Foxit E-slick 6" reader from Newegg.ca</li><li>Amazon Kindle can be shipped in via amazon.com, but overpriced and crippled without whispernet, imo.</li></ul><p><b>Non-Eink Readers</b></p><ul><li>Aluratek Libre Ebook Reader is sold by Costco &amp; Dell. Uses a  5" reflective LCD screen which is much nicer on the eyes than Eink (higher contrast), but much less battery time. Cheaper too (sometimes down to $150 on sale), fwiw.</li><li> Ectaco 5" Jetbook-lite - exactly the same unit as the Libre above, but cheaper (~$125 right now at Newegg.ca</li></ul><p><a href="http://www.mobileread.com/forums/" title="mobileread.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mobileread.com/forums/</a> [mobileread.com] is a good place to go for ebook discussions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These are what 's easily available in Canada .
There are tons more , but all have to be shipped in for a extra $ ( including the Kindle ) .Eink ReadersSony 's portable reader ebook line are available ( current models are the 5 " screen PRS300 and the 6 " screen PRS600 ) .
Look around on Dell.ca or Ncix , they sometimes go on decent sales ( e.g .
~ 200 + for the PRS300 ) .
Sadly , the PRS500 ( imo , the best one ) has been discontinued , though you might find some on clearance every now and then .
There is a 9 " model , the PRS900 " Daily Edition " but for whatever reason , it 's not available here ( yet ?
) .Astak Mentor ( 6 " ) and EZ Reader Pocket-Pro ( 5 " ) ebook readers , from Newegg.ca .
The 5 " is the newer and more featureful version.Foxit E-slick 6 " reader from Newegg.caAmazon Kindle can be shipped in via amazon.com , but overpriced and crippled without whispernet , imo.Non-Eink ReadersAluratek Libre Ebook Reader is sold by Costco &amp; Dell .
Uses a 5 " reflective LCD screen which is much nicer on the eyes than Eink ( higher contrast ) , but much less battery time .
Cheaper too ( sometimes down to $ 150 on sale ) , fwiw .
Ectaco 5 " Jetbook-lite - exactly the same unit as the Libre above , but cheaper ( ~ $ 125 right now at Newegg.cahttp : //www.mobileread.com/forums/ [ mobileread.com ] is a good place to go for ebook discussions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These are what's easily available in Canada.
There are tons more, but all have to be shipped in for a extra $ (including the Kindle).Eink ReadersSony's portable reader ebook line are available (current models are the 5" screen PRS300 and the 6" screen PRS600).
Look around on Dell.ca or Ncix, they sometimes go on decent sales (e.g.
~200+ for the PRS300).
Sadly, the PRS500 (imo, the best one) has been discontinued, though you might find some on clearance every now and then.
There is a 9" model, the PRS900 "Daily Edition" but for whatever reason, it's not available here (yet?
).Astak Mentor (6") and EZ Reader Pocket-Pro (5") ebook readers, from Newegg.ca.
The 5" is the newer and more featureful version.Foxit E-slick 6" reader from Newegg.caAmazon Kindle can be shipped in via amazon.com, but overpriced and crippled without whispernet, imo.Non-Eink ReadersAluratek Libre Ebook Reader is sold by Costco &amp; Dell.
Uses a  5" reflective LCD screen which is much nicer on the eyes than Eink (higher contrast), but much less battery time.
Cheaper too (sometimes down to $150 on sale), fwiw.
Ectaco 5" Jetbook-lite - exactly the same unit as the Libre above, but cheaper (~$125 right now at Newegg.cahttp://www.mobileread.com/forums/ [mobileread.com] is a good place to go for ebook discussions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142432</id>
	<title>Re:It hasn't been invented yet.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266233820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>screen large enough to show a full 8.5x11" page without scaling it down;</p></div><p>That's a 14inch screen.  It won't fit in anyone's purse, you'd need a backpack or laptop bag for it.  Really you're looking for a laptop.  Scaling will be a fact of life for ereaders.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>screen large enough to show a full 8.5x11 " page without scaling it down ; That 's a 14inch screen .
It wo n't fit in anyone 's purse , you 'd need a backpack or laptop bag for it .
Really you 're looking for a laptop .
Scaling will be a fact of life for ereaders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>screen large enough to show a full 8.5x11" page without scaling it down;That's a 14inch screen.
It won't fit in anyone's purse, you'd need a backpack or laptop bag for it.
Really you're looking for a laptop.
Scaling will be a fact of life for ereaders.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139700</id>
	<title>Annotation is important for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266160020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought an Iliad just because you can annotate and draw on your documents. It was the only one with this capability at the time I bought it. Real books I read on real paper. I travel a lot, I hate to read on the screen, and like to leave the office to read longer documents. Therefore  an eReader is perfect as mobile library, e.g. manuals and for documents to review . For that purpose you need annotation and PDF capabilities.</p><p>Andree</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought an Iliad just because you can annotate and draw on your documents .
It was the only one with this capability at the time I bought it .
Real books I read on real paper .
I travel a lot , I hate to read on the screen , and like to leave the office to read longer documents .
Therefore an eReader is perfect as mobile library , e.g .
manuals and for documents to review .
For that purpose you need annotation and PDF capabilities.Andree</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought an Iliad just because you can annotate and draw on your documents.
It was the only one with this capability at the time I bought it.
Real books I read on real paper.
I travel a lot, I hate to read on the screen, and like to leave the office to read longer documents.
Therefore  an eReader is perfect as mobile library, e.g.
manuals and for documents to review .
For that purpose you need annotation and PDF capabilities.Andree</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141254</id>
	<title>Hanlin V3</title>
	<author>s52d</author>
	<datestamp>1266175740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is almost two years I am in love with my E-reader.</p><p><a href="http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Hanlin\_V3" title="mobileread.com" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Hanlin\_V3</a> [mobileread.com]</p><p>- E-ink has perfect size, it fits big pocket (and it is really readable)<br>- good to read in the bed or on the beach<br>- most of my reference library for the job is there (in html)<br>- open (I could add my own SW or fix it, if needed), with SW updates flowing<br>- battery life: it takes 10 days between charging, and device is never switched off<br>- it is dedicated device and does the job<br>- perfect match if I could link it with 3G phone via USB.<br>- on meetings, I take notes on the paper</p><p>I am monitoring progress, and I plan to buy new E-reader, but<br>- bigger screens are vulnerable (we are waiting for plastics instead of glass)<br>- all added functionality increases power consumption and size<br>- if I need 3g, wifi, divx: another device<br>- I watch movies on TV with beer and remote: can not do it on PC<br>- if I want laptop, I use laptop.</p><p>So, no new device impressed me enough to get one.<br>I expect one to two years: new technology with bending screen could make a difference.<br>So far, it is nothing new: just incremental progress. Nothing worth going for.</p><p>On the other hand, it is niche product. Biggest shop in Ljubljana reported to sell only 100 devices in the year.<br>(lack of slovenian E-books).</p><p>I am in this particular niche:<br>While SW become user friendly, I am still machine friendly. (Aged over 50, learned FORTRAN in 1974).</p><p>73<br>Iztok</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is almost two years I am in love with my E-reader.http : //wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Hanlin \ _V3 [ mobileread.com ] - E-ink has perfect size , it fits big pocket ( and it is really readable ) - good to read in the bed or on the beach- most of my reference library for the job is there ( in html ) - open ( I could add my own SW or fix it , if needed ) , with SW updates flowing- battery life : it takes 10 days between charging , and device is never switched off- it is dedicated device and does the job- perfect match if I could link it with 3G phone via USB.- on meetings , I take notes on the paperI am monitoring progress , and I plan to buy new E-reader , but- bigger screens are vulnerable ( we are waiting for plastics instead of glass ) - all added functionality increases power consumption and size- if I need 3g , wifi , divx : another device- I watch movies on TV with beer and remote : can not do it on PC- if I want laptop , I use laptop.So , no new device impressed me enough to get one.I expect one to two years : new technology with bending screen could make a difference.So far , it is nothing new : just incremental progress .
Nothing worth going for.On the other hand , it is niche product .
Biggest shop in Ljubljana reported to sell only 100 devices in the year .
( lack of slovenian E-books ) .I am in this particular niche : While SW become user friendly , I am still machine friendly .
( Aged over 50 , learned FORTRAN in 1974 ) .73Iztok</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is almost two years I am in love with my E-reader.http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Hanlin\_V3 [mobileread.com]- E-ink has perfect size, it fits big pocket (and it is really readable)- good to read in the bed or on the beach- most of my reference library for the job is there (in html)- open (I could add my own SW or fix it, if needed), with SW updates flowing- battery life: it takes 10 days between charging, and device is never switched off- it is dedicated device and does the job- perfect match if I could link it with 3G phone via USB.- on meetings, I take notes on the paperI am monitoring progress, and I plan to buy new E-reader, but- bigger screens are vulnerable (we are waiting for plastics instead of glass)- all added functionality increases power consumption and size- if I need 3g, wifi, divx: another device- I watch movies on TV with beer and remote: can not do it on PC- if I want laptop, I use laptop.So, no new device impressed me enough to get one.I expect one to two years: new technology with bending screen could make a difference.So far, it is nothing new: just incremental progress.
Nothing worth going for.On the other hand, it is niche product.
Biggest shop in Ljubljana reported to sell only 100 devices in the year.
(lack of slovenian E-books).I am in this particular niche:While SW become user friendly, I am still machine friendly.
(Aged over 50, learned FORTRAN in 1974).73Iztok</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141924</id>
	<title>Re:It's all about content</title>
	<author>seebs</author>
	<datestamp>1266226680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, no.  I tried a couple of the pre-iPod ones, and at least some DID NOT play unencrypted MP3 files.  I had one, I think it was a "Lyra", that made strange squealings unless you "converted" your MP3s using a special licensed version of RealPlayer for Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , no .
I tried a couple of the pre-iPod ones , and at least some DID NOT play unencrypted MP3 files .
I had one , I think it was a " Lyra " , that made strange squealings unless you " converted " your MP3s using a special licensed version of RealPlayer for Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, no.
I tried a couple of the pre-iPod ones, and at least some DID NOT play unencrypted MP3 files.
I had one, I think it was a "Lyra", that made strange squealings unless you "converted" your MP3s using a special licensed version of RealPlayer for Windows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31147044</id>
	<title>What's the Best E-Reader?</title>
	<author>Sliverr</author>
	<datestamp>1266264120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I chose the Sony PRS-600.  It's a little pricey, but I prefer the 6" screen and it seems to support the most formats.  The touch screen is cool, but I can't say I've taken advantage of the functionality except for clicking on words for the dictionary.  I bought this to read books, not surf the net so I didn't really care about the wireless capabilities.  I've already checked books out of my local library as well as found books to download.  I won a Kindle DX last week and decided to stick with the Sony.</p><p>That's my 2 cents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I chose the Sony PRS-600 .
It 's a little pricey , but I prefer the 6 " screen and it seems to support the most formats .
The touch screen is cool , but I ca n't say I 've taken advantage of the functionality except for clicking on words for the dictionary .
I bought this to read books , not surf the net so I did n't really care about the wireless capabilities .
I 've already checked books out of my local library as well as found books to download .
I won a Kindle DX last week and decided to stick with the Sony.That 's my 2 cents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I chose the Sony PRS-600.
It's a little pricey, but I prefer the 6" screen and it seems to support the most formats.
The touch screen is cool, but I can't say I've taken advantage of the functionality except for clicking on words for the dictionary.
I bought this to read books, not surf the net so I didn't really care about the wireless capabilities.
I've already checked books out of my local library as well as found books to download.
I won a Kindle DX last week and decided to stick with the Sony.That's my 2 cents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31146016</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Nicolay77</author>
	<datestamp>1266258960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do need at least a few dozen books to be able to <b>decide</b> what to read next, and not feel stressed about it.</p><p>P.D: In before Whoosh!  This place is no digg.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do need at least a few dozen books to be able to decide what to read next , and not feel stressed about it.P.D : In before Whoosh !
This place is no digg .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do need at least a few dozen books to be able to decide what to read next, and not feel stressed about it.P.D: In before Whoosh!
This place is no digg.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142768</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Sobrique</author>
	<datestamp>1266238140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read a lot when on holiday. I will probably demolish one book on the journey each way, and then one every couple of days whilst I'm on holiday. It gets quite heavy, especially if you want to ensure you have enough reading material that you don't run out (some authors write 'faster fluff'). So instead of 5-10 dead tree books in my suitcase, I have one eBook reader in my jacket pocket. The latter has my holiday selection, along with a collection of some favourites I like re-reading.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read a lot when on holiday .
I will probably demolish one book on the journey each way , and then one every couple of days whilst I 'm on holiday .
It gets quite heavy , especially if you want to ensure you have enough reading material that you do n't run out ( some authors write 'faster fluff ' ) .
So instead of 5-10 dead tree books in my suitcase , I have one eBook reader in my jacket pocket .
The latter has my holiday selection , along with a collection of some favourites I like re-reading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read a lot when on holiday.
I will probably demolish one book on the journey each way, and then one every couple of days whilst I'm on holiday.
It gets quite heavy, especially if you want to ensure you have enough reading material that you don't run out (some authors write 'faster fluff').
So instead of 5-10 dead tree books in my suitcase, I have one eBook reader in my jacket pocket.
The latter has my holiday selection, along with a collection of some favourites I like re-reading.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143352</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone/iPod Touch + GoodReader app + pdfs</title>
	<author>Brandee07</author>
	<datestamp>1266245340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a woman. I carry a purse. The Kindle 2 in its cover is no significant burden. The iPad, however, would not be able to fit in my purse.</p><p>The iPhone has the massive advantage of fitting in my pocket (which is a feat, the pockets on girl pants are TINY). However, i rarely read on the thing. I have the Kindle app and Goodreader, and I just don't read on it, unless I am desperate. I suppose it's a combination of the small screen size and the backlight, but I get a headache after just a few minutes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a woman .
I carry a purse .
The Kindle 2 in its cover is no significant burden .
The iPad , however , would not be able to fit in my purse.The iPhone has the massive advantage of fitting in my pocket ( which is a feat , the pockets on girl pants are TINY ) .
However , i rarely read on the thing .
I have the Kindle app and Goodreader , and I just do n't read on it , unless I am desperate .
I suppose it 's a combination of the small screen size and the backlight , but I get a headache after just a few minutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a woman.
I carry a purse.
The Kindle 2 in its cover is no significant burden.
The iPad, however, would not be able to fit in my purse.The iPhone has the massive advantage of fitting in my pocket (which is a feat, the pockets on girl pants are TINY).
However, i rarely read on the thing.
I have the Kindle app and Goodreader, and I just don't read on it, unless I am desperate.
I suppose it's a combination of the small screen size and the backlight, but I get a headache after just a few minutes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31154714</id>
	<title>enTourage</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266333120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about this one: <a href="http://www.entourageedge.com./" title="www.entourageedge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.entourageedge.com./</a> [www.entourageedge.com]
It's android based and you can read the book on one side and browse the web on the other. It looks nice but I admit i haven't tested one yet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about this one : http : //www.entourageedge.com./ [ www.entourageedge.com ] It 's android based and you can read the book on one side and browse the web on the other .
It looks nice but I admit i have n't tested one yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about this one: http://www.entourageedge.com./ [www.entourageedge.com]
It's android based and you can read the book on one side and browse the web on the other.
It looks nice but I admit i haven't tested one yet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138204</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266150000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The don't have e-ink.  Game over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The do n't have e-ink .
Game over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The don't have e-ink.
Game over.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31145302</id>
	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>wintercolby</author>
	<datestamp>1266255360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sorry, but you're missing one of the key concepts of economics.
<br> <br>
value != cost\_of\_manufacture + margin<br>
value == demand/supply
<br> <br>
The bottom line is that it doesn't matter what it costs to make, what matters is what the market will pay for it.  That is the constant argument that is made for the price that is paid for every other good or service.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , but you 're missing one of the key concepts of economics .
value ! = cost \ _of \ _manufacture + margin value = = demand/supply The bottom line is that it does n't matter what it costs to make , what matters is what the market will pay for it .
That is the constant argument that is made for the price that is paid for every other good or service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, but you're missing one of the key concepts of economics.
value != cost\_of\_manufacture + margin
value == demand/supply
 
The bottom line is that it doesn't matter what it costs to make, what matters is what the market will pay for it.
That is the constant argument that is made for the price that is paid for every other good or service.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140454</id>
	<title>Re:It's all about content</title>
	<author>masmullin</author>
	<datestamp>1266166740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have bought a total of 4 books from sony reader store</p><p>Three of these books were $1 each during the onedollarorbit sale... the other was "Dragons of the Hourglass Mage" which cost $9 (it was $30 hardcover at the time).</p><p>now all of this was before December of 09... so maybe things have changed in the past few months... but I dont think the sony ereader store books cost more than paper books.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have bought a total of 4 books from sony reader storeThree of these books were $ 1 each during the onedollarorbit sale... the other was " Dragons of the Hourglass Mage " which cost $ 9 ( it was $ 30 hardcover at the time ) .now all of this was before December of 09... so maybe things have changed in the past few months... but I dont think the sony ereader store books cost more than paper books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have bought a total of 4 books from sony reader storeThree of these books were $1 each during the onedollarorbit sale... the other was "Dragons of the Hourglass Mage" which cost $9 (it was $30 hardcover at the time).now all of this was before December of 09... so maybe things have changed in the past few months... but I dont think the sony ereader store books cost more than paper books.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139800</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle</title>
	<author>NitroWolf</author>
	<datestamp>1266160800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Amazon Kindle.  Is this even a legitimate competition?</p></div><p>Umm... no, it's not a legitimate competition.  The Kindle loses hands down.  The only thing it's got going for it is the display.  From a technical perspective, other e-Readers beat the Kindle is almost every single category.</p><p>Kindle falls short in these categories:</p><p>1. Ergonomics (Keyboard is questionable, speed is terrible)<br>2. Lack of a built in light for reading at night. Spend that extra $0.01 for that LED!<br>3. Excessively crippled by DRM<br>4. Lack of supported formats<br>5. Price<br>6 Expandability</p><p>The list goes on... what's really scary is the fact that the Sony readers excel in almost every category.  Sony.  What's the world coming to when Sony is the good guy and Amazon is the evil money grubbing corporation that hates it's customers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Amazon Kindle .
Is this even a legitimate competition ? Umm... no , it 's not a legitimate competition .
The Kindle loses hands down .
The only thing it 's got going for it is the display .
From a technical perspective , other e-Readers beat the Kindle is almost every single category.Kindle falls short in these categories : 1 .
Ergonomics ( Keyboard is questionable , speed is terrible ) 2 .
Lack of a built in light for reading at night .
Spend that extra $ 0.01 for that LED ! 3 .
Excessively crippled by DRM4 .
Lack of supported formats5 .
Price6 ExpandabilityThe list goes on... what 's really scary is the fact that the Sony readers excel in almost every category .
Sony. What 's the world coming to when Sony is the good guy and Amazon is the evil money grubbing corporation that hates it 's customers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Amazon Kindle.
Is this even a legitimate competition?Umm... no, it's not a legitimate competition.
The Kindle loses hands down.
The only thing it's got going for it is the display.
From a technical perspective, other e-Readers beat the Kindle is almost every single category.Kindle falls short in these categories:1.
Ergonomics (Keyboard is questionable, speed is terrible)2.
Lack of a built in light for reading at night.
Spend that extra $0.01 for that LED!3.
Excessively crippled by DRM4.
Lack of supported formats5.
Price6 ExpandabilityThe list goes on... what's really scary is the fact that the Sony readers excel in almost every category.
Sony.  What's the world coming to when Sony is the good guy and Amazon is the evil money grubbing corporation that hates it's customers.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138638</id>
	<title>re:</title>
	<author>da8add1e</author>
	<datestamp>1266152700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>After getting hooked on palm eReader on my old palm device, once that became obsolete I looked around at alternatives, long story short I now use FBReader on my laptop it's open source and supports the open<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.epub ebook format and pretty much all others, if i can't find a ebook in the format it supports there are many tools around for converting to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.epub or another supported format

link - <a href="http://www.fbreader.org/" title="fbreader.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.fbreader.org/</a> [fbreader.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>After getting hooked on palm eReader on my old palm device , once that became obsolete I looked around at alternatives , long story short I now use FBReader on my laptop it 's open source and supports the open .epub ebook format and pretty much all others , if i ca n't find a ebook in the format it supports there are many tools around for converting to .epub or another supported format link - http : //www.fbreader.org/ [ fbreader.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After getting hooked on palm eReader on my old palm device, once that became obsolete I looked around at alternatives, long story short I now use FBReader on my laptop it's open source and supports the open .epub ebook format and pretty much all others, if i can't find a ebook in the format it supports there are many tools around for converting to .epub or another supported format

link - http://www.fbreader.org/ [fbreader.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138352</id>
	<title>iPhone/iPod Touch + GoodReader app + pdfs</title>
	<author>ghostunit</author>
	<datestamp>1266150960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The way I see it, all e-book readers have at least one fatal flaw that defeats the whole purpose of the thing. The Kindle, etc. are too large and drm encumbered. Likewise, most devices have proprietary quirks and restrictions I just won't bother dealing with.
<br> <br>
Only the iPhone/iPodTouch + GoodReader app + pdfs combo actually satisfies my mobile book reading needs: I'm carrying the phone anywhere anyways, the screen size has proven itself big enough for reading (though one has to get used to it) the app mentioned has pretty good functionality and dealing with bare pdfs (wish it supported djvu, alas) spares me from corporate arbitrariness and other bs.
<br> <br>
Using this combo, I wonder why anyone would want a Kindle or similar non-pocket sized devices. If you have to carry something large, why not just get a book instead?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The way I see it , all e-book readers have at least one fatal flaw that defeats the whole purpose of the thing .
The Kindle , etc .
are too large and drm encumbered .
Likewise , most devices have proprietary quirks and restrictions I just wo n't bother dealing with .
Only the iPhone/iPodTouch + GoodReader app + pdfs combo actually satisfies my mobile book reading needs : I 'm carrying the phone anywhere anyways , the screen size has proven itself big enough for reading ( though one has to get used to it ) the app mentioned has pretty good functionality and dealing with bare pdfs ( wish it supported djvu , alas ) spares me from corporate arbitrariness and other bs .
Using this combo , I wonder why anyone would want a Kindle or similar non-pocket sized devices .
If you have to carry something large , why not just get a book instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The way I see it, all e-book readers have at least one fatal flaw that defeats the whole purpose of the thing.
The Kindle, etc.
are too large and drm encumbered.
Likewise, most devices have proprietary quirks and restrictions I just won't bother dealing with.
Only the iPhone/iPodTouch + GoodReader app + pdfs combo actually satisfies my mobile book reading needs: I'm carrying the phone anywhere anyways, the screen size has proven itself big enough for reading (though one has to get used to it) the app mentioned has pretty good functionality and dealing with bare pdfs (wish it supported djvu, alas) spares me from corporate arbitrariness and other bs.
Using this combo, I wonder why anyone would want a Kindle or similar non-pocket sized devices.
If you have to carry something large, why not just get a book instead?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138682</id>
	<title>Define "best"</title>
	<author>walterbyrd</author>
	<datestamp>1266153060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Versatility: all pure ebook readers suck. They only really do *one* thing, and they cost more than a netbook. I can use an itouch, ipad, netbook, or whatever to play games, surf the internet, watch movies, listen to music, and run all sorts of applications.</p><p>Cost: considering their extremely limited functionality, all pure ebook reader are *way* overpriced. Just buy books, or go to the library, or use the PC, or net device that you have anyway.</p><p>Portability: I suppose a PDA, itouch, or iphone would win. If you are okay with reading an entire book on a screen that is smaller than the surface of a credit card.</p><p>Battery life: not even an issue with a real book, or a home PC.</p><p>Easy to read: home PC - no contest. Although just reading a real book is not bad.</p><p>Storage: home PC - no contest. Real books lose badly. Then again: do many people really need hundreds, or thousands, or books with them at any given time?</p><p>Durability. Real books win easily. Try throwing your laptop, ebook reader, or whatever off the top of a six story building, or running it over with your car.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Versatility : all pure ebook readers suck .
They only really do * one * thing , and they cost more than a netbook .
I can use an itouch , ipad , netbook , or whatever to play games , surf the internet , watch movies , listen to music , and run all sorts of applications.Cost : considering their extremely limited functionality , all pure ebook reader are * way * overpriced .
Just buy books , or go to the library , or use the PC , or net device that you have anyway.Portability : I suppose a PDA , itouch , or iphone would win .
If you are okay with reading an entire book on a screen that is smaller than the surface of a credit card.Battery life : not even an issue with a real book , or a home PC.Easy to read : home PC - no contest .
Although just reading a real book is not bad.Storage : home PC - no contest .
Real books lose badly .
Then again : do many people really need hundreds , or thousands , or books with them at any given time ? Durability .
Real books win easily .
Try throwing your laptop , ebook reader , or whatever off the top of a six story building , or running it over with your car .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Versatility: all pure ebook readers suck.
They only really do *one* thing, and they cost more than a netbook.
I can use an itouch, ipad, netbook, or whatever to play games, surf the internet, watch movies, listen to music, and run all sorts of applications.Cost: considering their extremely limited functionality, all pure ebook reader are *way* overpriced.
Just buy books, or go to the library, or use the PC, or net device that you have anyway.Portability: I suppose a PDA, itouch, or iphone would win.
If you are okay with reading an entire book on a screen that is smaller than the surface of a credit card.Battery life: not even an issue with a real book, or a home PC.Easy to read: home PC - no contest.
Although just reading a real book is not bad.Storage: home PC - no contest.
Real books lose badly.
Then again: do many people really need hundreds, or thousands, or books with them at any given time?Durability.
Real books win easily.
Try throwing your laptop, ebook reader, or whatever off the top of a six story building, or running it over with your car.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140248</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266164640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I can have a few thousand of those in an ebook reader</p></div></blockquote><p>And how many of those can you read at once?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can have a few thousand of those in an ebook readerAnd how many of those can you read at once ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can have a few thousand of those in an ebook readerAnd how many of those can you read at once?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142408</id>
	<title>comics reader</title>
	<author>newsdee</author>
	<datestamp>1266233460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One feature that I don't see mentioned in this discussion is the ability to read graphics files out of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.zip or<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.cbz archives. The standard e-reader screen (6-7 inches) is not very good for Letter or A4 sized color comics, but works very well for black &amp; white manga. As far as I know, only the iRiver kindle can read<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.zip and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.cbz for this purpose, but there are probably other readers out there with the same ability?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One feature that I do n't see mentioned in this discussion is the ability to read graphics files out of .zip or .cbz archives .
The standard e-reader screen ( 6-7 inches ) is not very good for Letter or A4 sized color comics , but works very well for black &amp; white manga .
As far as I know , only the iRiver kindle can read .zip and .cbz for this purpose , but there are probably other readers out there with the same ability ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One feature that I don't see mentioned in this discussion is the ability to read graphics files out of .zip or .cbz archives.
The standard e-reader screen (6-7 inches) is not very good for Letter or A4 sized color comics, but works very well for black &amp; white manga.
As far as I know, only the iRiver kindle can read .zip and .cbz for this purpose, but there are probably other readers out there with the same ability?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31143940</id>
	<title>Trust in the Matrix...</title>
	<author>DaTrueDave</author>
	<datestamp>1266249000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book\_Reader\_Matrix" title="mobileread.com" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book\_Reader\_Matrix</a> [mobileread.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book \ _Reader \ _Matrix [ mobileread.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book\_Reader\_Matrix [mobileread.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140360</id>
	<title>Is the lightbook actually possible?</title>
	<author>wholcomb</author>
	<datestamp>1266165840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the subject, <a href="http://www.martin-woodhouse.co.uk/" title="martin-woodhouse.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Martin Woodhouse</a> [martin-woodhouse.co.uk] claims that it's feasible to <a href="http://www.martin-woodhouse.co.uk/page35a.html" title="martin-woodhouse.co.uk" rel="nofollow">combine a sheet of e-ink together with a sd reader, solar cell and battery for $25</a> [martin-woodhouse.co.uk].</p><p>Since <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/08/09/08/2246203/Hacking-Esquires-E-ink-Cover" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Esquire ran their e-ink cover</a> [slashdot.org] I've been thinking the parts must be relatively cheap.</p><p>It doesn't seem possible to buy e-ink though for less than <a href="http://eink.com/kits/am200\_index.html" title="eink.com" rel="nofollow">$3000</a> [eink.com]. Is this a situation where sales are only going to large companies or is there another reason it's hard to buy e-paper?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the subject , Martin Woodhouse [ martin-woodhouse.co.uk ] claims that it 's feasible to combine a sheet of e-ink together with a sd reader , solar cell and battery for $ 25 [ martin-woodhouse.co.uk ] .Since Esquire ran their e-ink cover [ slashdot.org ] I 've been thinking the parts must be relatively cheap.It does n't seem possible to buy e-ink though for less than $ 3000 [ eink.com ] .
Is this a situation where sales are only going to large companies or is there another reason it 's hard to buy e-paper ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the subject, Martin Woodhouse [martin-woodhouse.co.uk] claims that it's feasible to combine a sheet of e-ink together with a sd reader, solar cell and battery for $25 [martin-woodhouse.co.uk].Since Esquire ran their e-ink cover [slashdot.org] I've been thinking the parts must be relatively cheap.It doesn't seem possible to buy e-ink though for less than $3000 [eink.com].
Is this a situation where sales are only going to large companies or is there another reason it's hard to buy e-paper?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142212</id>
	<title>Kindle Dx vs iRex Iliad</title>
	<author>GunR</author>
	<datestamp>1266230640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've now tried both of them and I'm sorry to say the Kindle wins by far.<br>Both can read PDF files and shows up in Linux as usb mass storage devices, which is great and what I was after.</p><p>But, the Iliad has 2 major shortcomings for my use.</p><p>1. It cannot be charged over USB. I needs a power supply. A short usb-cable I can live with, but I'm not gonna lug around a power supply everywhere I go.<br>2. It takes a good 60 seconds to boot up. It feels like an eternity. If I want to read a book I'm not gonna sit looking at it for a whole minute before I open the covers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've now tried both of them and I 'm sorry to say the Kindle wins by far.Both can read PDF files and shows up in Linux as usb mass storage devices , which is great and what I was after.But , the Iliad has 2 major shortcomings for my use.1 .
It can not be charged over USB .
I needs a power supply .
A short usb-cable I can live with , but I 'm not gon na lug around a power supply everywhere I go.2 .
It takes a good 60 seconds to boot up .
It feels like an eternity .
If I want to read a book I 'm not gon na sit looking at it for a whole minute before I open the covers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've now tried both of them and I'm sorry to say the Kindle wins by far.Both can read PDF files and shows up in Linux as usb mass storage devices, which is great and what I was after.But, the Iliad has 2 major shortcomings for my use.1.
It cannot be charged over USB.
I needs a power supply.
A short usb-cable I can live with, but I'm not gonna lug around a power supply everywhere I go.2.
It takes a good 60 seconds to boot up.
It feels like an eternity.
If I want to read a book I'm not gonna sit looking at it for a whole minute before I open the covers!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141164</id>
	<title>Re:The Sony</title>
	<author>Alinabi</author>
	<datestamp>1266174420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry. When it comes to format support, nothing comes even close to the Astak EZReader. That thing reads anything under the sun. No support for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.djvu is a deal breaker for me, as it means you cannot scan stuff and take it with you on the go.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry .
When it comes to format support , nothing comes even close to the Astak EZReader .
That thing reads anything under the sun .
No support for .djvu is a deal breaker for me , as it means you can not scan stuff and take it with you on the go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry.
When it comes to format support, nothing comes even close to the Astak EZReader.
That thing reads anything under the sun.
No support for .djvu is a deal breaker for me, as it means you cannot scan stuff and take it with you on the go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138362</id>
	<title>Sony eReader</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266151020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought my gf the Sony eReader a year back and she loves it. The fact that it reads PDFs and several other types of files she enjoys makes it the smarter choice. The Kindle has too many lock down features. It's amazing to say this about a Sony product, but it's surprisingly open for what you get. The battery life is great and the eInk is a cool thing as well. I'm waiting for the color version of the eInk to become a bit cheaper on these eReaders before I buy myself one. I read way more mags than I do books and the bright screen on laptops and i-Products hurt my eyes after extended periods.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought my gf the Sony eReader a year back and she loves it .
The fact that it reads PDFs and several other types of files she enjoys makes it the smarter choice .
The Kindle has too many lock down features .
It 's amazing to say this about a Sony product , but it 's surprisingly open for what you get .
The battery life is great and the eInk is a cool thing as well .
I 'm waiting for the color version of the eInk to become a bit cheaper on these eReaders before I buy myself one .
I read way more mags than I do books and the bright screen on laptops and i-Products hurt my eyes after extended periods .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought my gf the Sony eReader a year back and she loves it.
The fact that it reads PDFs and several other types of files she enjoys makes it the smarter choice.
The Kindle has too many lock down features.
It's amazing to say this about a Sony product, but it's surprisingly open for what you get.
The battery life is great and the eInk is a cool thing as well.
I'm waiting for the color version of the eInk to become a bit cheaper on these eReaders before I buy myself one.
I read way more mags than I do books and the bright screen on laptops and i-Products hurt my eyes after extended periods.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31146904</id>
	<title>Re:Define "best"</title>
	<author>Nicolay77</author>
	<datestamp>1266263520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You just made me compare a credit card with the screen of my phone, you bastard!</p><p>P.D.: Yes, the card is a bit larger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You just made me compare a credit card with the screen of my phone , you bastard ! P.D .
: Yes , the card is a bit larger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You just made me compare a credit card with the screen of my phone, you bastard!P.D.
: Yes, the card is a bit larger.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139584</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>tronbradia</author>
	<datestamp>1266159120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Heavy. No e-ink (with a nod to Zoidbot above, I like my eyes, thanks). Terrible battery life.

From what I can tell, the e-reader options out there right now are pretty terrible. But it's silly to suggest that there's not a niche for such a thing. I can tell reading papers is not in your job description.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heavy .
No e-ink ( with a nod to Zoidbot above , I like my eyes , thanks ) .
Terrible battery life .
From what I can tell , the e-reader options out there right now are pretty terrible .
But it 's silly to suggest that there 's not a niche for such a thing .
I can tell reading papers is not in your job description .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heavy.
No e-ink (with a nod to Zoidbot above, I like my eyes, thanks).
Terrible battery life.
From what I can tell, the e-reader options out there right now are pretty terrible.
But it's silly to suggest that there's not a niche for such a thing.
I can tell reading papers is not in your job description.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142684</id>
	<title>iRex Digital Reader 1000S</title>
	<author>dassen</author>
	<datestamp>1266237180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For me the best e-book reader sofar is the iRex Digital Reader 1000S. It is not cheap, but it does A4 pdf and has no DRM issues. I need it mainly for technical papers in pdf format. But it also does e-books from Gutenberg or other source very well. Its main shortcoming is the very poor support of html.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For me the best e-book reader sofar is the iRex Digital Reader 1000S .
It is not cheap , but it does A4 pdf and has no DRM issues .
I need it mainly for technical papers in pdf format .
But it also does e-books from Gutenberg or other source very well .
Its main shortcoming is the very poor support of html .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For me the best e-book reader sofar is the iRex Digital Reader 1000S.
It is not cheap, but it does A4 pdf and has no DRM issues.
I need it mainly for technical papers in pdf format.
But it also does e-books from Gutenberg or other source very well.
Its main shortcoming is the very poor support of html.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138130</id>
	<title>The Sony</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266149580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By a very long mile.  Great format support, including many open formats, great quality too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By a very long mile .
Great format support , including many open formats , great quality too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By a very long mile.
Great format support, including many open formats, great quality too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140004</id>
	<title>Kindle and Whispernet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266162480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The non-recurring fee connection is simply great.

E-Ink is definitely worthwhile, I haven't missed color at all, and the eyestrain is negligible with it.  I read a lot on my laptop/phone, and the difference is noticeable.

Amazon DRM exists, but it's been a non-factor for me so far.  I get that it's a holy war around these parts, and I don't buy and DRM'd music, but well, if you're the kind it's going to bother, it's going to bother you.

Amazon customer support has been fantastic, including replacing my Kindle when a crack appeared on the screen.  It was shipped out gratis, and I ended up with an extra charger out of the deal (the same charger works on my droid, so kudos for 'not being a dick' when it comes to USB standards.

As to reading on it - I forget that I'm reading on a device and my focus is entirely on the book I'm reading -- except I can look up the odd word, and it is a ton easier to hold.  I'm re-reading a hard-cover book and I've actually been tempted to buy it for the Kindle so that I'd the built in dictionary and my arm wouldn't get tired in bed.

I've read around 30 books on it so far.  Newspapers and magazines when traveling have been great too (kudos to the washingtonpost for making a daily purchase option available).</htmltext>
<tokenext>The non-recurring fee connection is simply great .
E-Ink is definitely worthwhile , I have n't missed color at all , and the eyestrain is negligible with it .
I read a lot on my laptop/phone , and the difference is noticeable .
Amazon DRM exists , but it 's been a non-factor for me so far .
I get that it 's a holy war around these parts , and I do n't buy and DRM 'd music , but well , if you 're the kind it 's going to bother , it 's going to bother you .
Amazon customer support has been fantastic , including replacing my Kindle when a crack appeared on the screen .
It was shipped out gratis , and I ended up with an extra charger out of the deal ( the same charger works on my droid , so kudos for 'not being a dick ' when it comes to USB standards .
As to reading on it - I forget that I 'm reading on a device and my focus is entirely on the book I 'm reading -- except I can look up the odd word , and it is a ton easier to hold .
I 'm re-reading a hard-cover book and I 've actually been tempted to buy it for the Kindle so that I 'd the built in dictionary and my arm would n't get tired in bed .
I 've read around 30 books on it so far .
Newspapers and magazines when traveling have been great too ( kudos to the washingtonpost for making a daily purchase option available ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The non-recurring fee connection is simply great.
E-Ink is definitely worthwhile, I haven't missed color at all, and the eyestrain is negligible with it.
I read a lot on my laptop/phone, and the difference is noticeable.
Amazon DRM exists, but it's been a non-factor for me so far.
I get that it's a holy war around these parts, and I don't buy and DRM'd music, but well, if you're the kind it's going to bother, it's going to bother you.
Amazon customer support has been fantastic, including replacing my Kindle when a crack appeared on the screen.
It was shipped out gratis, and I ended up with an extra charger out of the deal (the same charger works on my droid, so kudos for 'not being a dick' when it comes to USB standards.
As to reading on it - I forget that I'm reading on a device and my focus is entirely on the book I'm reading -- except I can look up the odd word, and it is a ton easier to hold.
I'm re-reading a hard-cover book and I've actually been tempted to buy it for the Kindle so that I'd the built in dictionary and my arm wouldn't get tired in bed.
I've read around 30 books on it so far.
Newspapers and magazines when traveling have been great too (kudos to the washingtonpost for making a daily purchase option available).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31150242</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1266236700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>most people grab a book, read it, then get another book. despite what<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.'s will tell us about their insatiable reading habits, that's what most people do. needing to carry around tens or hundreds of books is a niche. i have no doubt that e-book owners have tens or hundreds of books on their device and regularly flaunt this to e-book non-believers, but they just aren't accessing all of those books on a daily basis.</p><p>there are some people that like tech for the sake of it, and involving tech in some aspect of their lives tends to pique their interest. i am not immune to this by any means. i remember how my handheld GPS renewed my interest in hiking for a while. i didn't like hiking as much as i liked watching my path being plotted and knowing how much elevation i had gained. i think this is the main draw of e-books at this point in their evolution. one more shiny device to tote around for people with $300 burning a hole in their pocket.</p><p>for the rest of us, that like reading for the sake of reading, a regular books is lighter, easier to read, open formatted, more durable, can be purchased used at a discount, and cheaper than an ebook and moreover it's ownership is transferrable. not to mention that publishers have drastically reduced their costs and passed on none of it to the consumer. i guess that's not a direct knock against e-readers, but if the books costed significantly less that sure would be a draw.</p><p>to be fair i think there are some uses that fall outside of traditional book reading that may work for ebooks. if you consume many periodicals<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... students with a ton of back breaking textbooks<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... for example.</p><p>as for their popularity among the masses, i live in a million+ person city and i can count the number of times i've seen someone reading an e-book on my hands. maybe people keep them at home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>most people grab a book , read it , then get another book .
despite what / .
's will tell us about their insatiable reading habits , that 's what most people do .
needing to carry around tens or hundreds of books is a niche .
i have no doubt that e-book owners have tens or hundreds of books on their device and regularly flaunt this to e-book non-believers , but they just are n't accessing all of those books on a daily basis.there are some people that like tech for the sake of it , and involving tech in some aspect of their lives tends to pique their interest .
i am not immune to this by any means .
i remember how my handheld GPS renewed my interest in hiking for a while .
i did n't like hiking as much as i liked watching my path being plotted and knowing how much elevation i had gained .
i think this is the main draw of e-books at this point in their evolution .
one more shiny device to tote around for people with $ 300 burning a hole in their pocket.for the rest of us , that like reading for the sake of reading , a regular books is lighter , easier to read , open formatted , more durable , can be purchased used at a discount , and cheaper than an ebook and moreover it 's ownership is transferrable .
not to mention that publishers have drastically reduced their costs and passed on none of it to the consumer .
i guess that 's not a direct knock against e-readers , but if the books costed significantly less that sure would be a draw.to be fair i think there are some uses that fall outside of traditional book reading that may work for ebooks .
if you consume many periodicals ... students with a ton of back breaking textbooks ... for example.as for their popularity among the masses , i live in a million + person city and i can count the number of times i 've seen someone reading an e-book on my hands .
maybe people keep them at home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>most people grab a book, read it, then get another book.
despite what /.
's will tell us about their insatiable reading habits, that's what most people do.
needing to carry around tens or hundreds of books is a niche.
i have no doubt that e-book owners have tens or hundreds of books on their device and regularly flaunt this to e-book non-believers, but they just aren't accessing all of those books on a daily basis.there are some people that like tech for the sake of it, and involving tech in some aspect of their lives tends to pique their interest.
i am not immune to this by any means.
i remember how my handheld GPS renewed my interest in hiking for a while.
i didn't like hiking as much as i liked watching my path being plotted and knowing how much elevation i had gained.
i think this is the main draw of e-books at this point in their evolution.
one more shiny device to tote around for people with $300 burning a hole in their pocket.for the rest of us, that like reading for the sake of reading, a regular books is lighter, easier to read, open formatted, more durable, can be purchased used at a discount, and cheaper than an ebook and moreover it's ownership is transferrable.
not to mention that publishers have drastically reduced their costs and passed on none of it to the consumer.
i guess that's not a direct knock against e-readers, but if the books costed significantly less that sure would be a draw.to be fair i think there are some uses that fall outside of traditional book reading that may work for ebooks.
if you consume many periodicals ... students with a ton of back breaking textbooks ... for example.as for their popularity among the masses, i live in a million+ person city and i can count the number of times i've seen someone reading an e-book on my hands.
maybe people keep them at home.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142176</id>
	<title>Re:It hasn't been invented yet.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266230220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you really care if the display is bistable? If it'd allow you to read for a week without recharging but it wasn't bistable, wouldn't that be good enough for you? Take the Pixel Qi display for example. It's not bistable, just very low power. I'd still take it over e-ink. That goes for some other display types.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really care if the display is bistable ?
If it 'd allow you to read for a week without recharging but it was n't bistable , would n't that be good enough for you ?
Take the Pixel Qi display for example .
It 's not bistable , just very low power .
I 'd still take it over e-ink .
That goes for some other display types .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you really care if the display is bistable?
If it'd allow you to read for a week without recharging but it wasn't bistable, wouldn't that be good enough for you?
Take the Pixel Qi display for example.
It's not bistable, just very low power.
I'd still take it over e-ink.
That goes for some other display types.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138578</id>
	<title>Entourage eDGe &amp; Sony PRS-505</title>
	<author>spiritgreywolf</author>
	<datestamp>1266152280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being a voracious reader and traveling heavily on business, I had began reading e-Books on my Compaq iPaq years ago using Windows<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.LIT eReader. There was also other software called Micro-book that was very nice using good fonts and an easier contrast for reading. I think the cost of micro-book was like $14 total and was well worth the price.</p><p>I eventually abandoned the iPaq and moved to the e-Ink display of the Sony PRS-500 since it was larger and a bit easier on the eyes, then to the PRS-505. There is an open-source software application called "Calibre" that is absolutely EXCELLENT for converting LIT, LRF, RTF, and even RSS feeds and websites and other formats to be readily consumable on the Sony reader (and I believe it works with many others). The only drawback I have with the Sony is that I now have lots of technical books from Wrox, Apress and Wiley in PDF format and they are simply unable to render on the smaller e-ink display of the Sony. Seriously - don't even try to do it unless you want to piss yourself off.</p><p>I've already pre-ordered an Entourage Edge since comparatively it appears to have everything I would want - a much larger (10") e-Ink display, a second LCD touchscreen display and other features that I find exciting for e-reading and playing around with programming on the Android platform. I work in the medical field doing EDI integration for hospitals using various formats and "Integration Engine Broker" tools - and the Edge looks like it would be an AWESOME dashboard platform for medical apps. I don't know yet but for under $500 to get an Android platform, wireless connectivity, etc - it seemed too good to pass up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being a voracious reader and traveling heavily on business , I had began reading e-Books on my Compaq iPaq years ago using Windows .LIT eReader .
There was also other software called Micro-book that was very nice using good fonts and an easier contrast for reading .
I think the cost of micro-book was like $ 14 total and was well worth the price.I eventually abandoned the iPaq and moved to the e-Ink display of the Sony PRS-500 since it was larger and a bit easier on the eyes , then to the PRS-505 .
There is an open-source software application called " Calibre " that is absolutely EXCELLENT for converting LIT , LRF , RTF , and even RSS feeds and websites and other formats to be readily consumable on the Sony reader ( and I believe it works with many others ) .
The only drawback I have with the Sony is that I now have lots of technical books from Wrox , Apress and Wiley in PDF format and they are simply unable to render on the smaller e-ink display of the Sony .
Seriously - do n't even try to do it unless you want to piss yourself off.I 've already pre-ordered an Entourage Edge since comparatively it appears to have everything I would want - a much larger ( 10 " ) e-Ink display , a second LCD touchscreen display and other features that I find exciting for e-reading and playing around with programming on the Android platform .
I work in the medical field doing EDI integration for hospitals using various formats and " Integration Engine Broker " tools - and the Edge looks like it would be an AWESOME dashboard platform for medical apps .
I do n't know yet but for under $ 500 to get an Android platform , wireless connectivity , etc - it seemed too good to pass up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being a voracious reader and traveling heavily on business, I had began reading e-Books on my Compaq iPaq years ago using Windows .LIT eReader.
There was also other software called Micro-book that was very nice using good fonts and an easier contrast for reading.
I think the cost of micro-book was like $14 total and was well worth the price.I eventually abandoned the iPaq and moved to the e-Ink display of the Sony PRS-500 since it was larger and a bit easier on the eyes, then to the PRS-505.
There is an open-source software application called "Calibre" that is absolutely EXCELLENT for converting LIT, LRF, RTF, and even RSS feeds and websites and other formats to be readily consumable on the Sony reader (and I believe it works with many others).
The only drawback I have with the Sony is that I now have lots of technical books from Wrox, Apress and Wiley in PDF format and they are simply unable to render on the smaller e-ink display of the Sony.
Seriously - don't even try to do it unless you want to piss yourself off.I've already pre-ordered an Entourage Edge since comparatively it appears to have everything I would want - a much larger (10") e-Ink display, a second LCD touchscreen display and other features that I find exciting for e-reading and playing around with programming on the Android platform.
I work in the medical field doing EDI integration for hospitals using various formats and "Integration Engine Broker" tools - and the Edge looks like it would be an AWESOME dashboard platform for medical apps.
I don't know yet but for under $500 to get an Android platform, wireless connectivity, etc - it seemed too good to pass up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142414</id>
	<title>My phone</title>
	<author>1310nm</author>
	<datestamp>1266233520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It goes everywhere, it's small/lightweight, 3G coverage, and has great battery life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It goes everywhere , it 's small/lightweight , 3G coverage , and has great battery life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It goes everywhere, it's small/lightweight, 3G coverage, and has great battery life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141794</id>
	<title>Franklin</title>
	<author>CranberryKing</author>
	<datestamp>1266225000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I built the website for the first e-book reader back in the 90's. Franklin's product line had consisted of e-translators, e-bibles, homework-helpers, and other highly specialized/dedicated devices. They acquired someone who had been making an e-book device and had begun deals with many publishers. I believe (but don't really know) that the publishers got cold feet and effectively killed the deal and the e-book reader. It was just another late 90's blown out budget building an expensive system that never went live. God! I miss those days!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I built the website for the first e-book reader back in the 90 's .
Franklin 's product line had consisted of e-translators , e-bibles , homework-helpers , and other highly specialized/dedicated devices .
They acquired someone who had been making an e-book device and had begun deals with many publishers .
I believe ( but do n't really know ) that the publishers got cold feet and effectively killed the deal and the e-book reader .
It was just another late 90 's blown out budget building an expensive system that never went live .
God ! I miss those days !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I built the website for the first e-book reader back in the 90's.
Franklin's product line had consisted of e-translators, e-bibles, homework-helpers, and other highly specialized/dedicated devices.
They acquired someone who had been making an e-book device and had begun deals with many publishers.
I believe (but don't really know) that the publishers got cold feet and effectively killed the deal and the e-book reader.
It was just another late 90's blown out budget building an expensive system that never went live.
God! I miss those days!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140104</id>
	<title>Re:Came here to see someone recommend the iPad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266163380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>...can't be used in direct sunlight</p></div> </blockquote><p>

Good lord! Are you saying the rumours of the daystar are true?!?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...ca n't be used in direct sunlight Good lord !
Are you saying the rumours of the daystar are true ? !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...can't be used in direct sunlight 

Good lord!
Are you saying the rumours of the daystar are true?!
?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139188</id>
	<title>I have the Sony - but the issue is DRM books</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266156540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The sony is not bad (505 model), but I have a hard time buying from the Sony book store.   The DRM sucks, and the store SUCKS.</p><p>I do get a lot of Free books from ManyBooks.net, and have started buying from the only Publisher that I think gets it.</p><p><a href="http://www.baen.com/" title="baen.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.baen.com/</a> [baen.com]</p><p>No DRM and their books are under 8 bucks.  Good stuff too if you like SF or Fantasy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The sony is not bad ( 505 model ) , but I have a hard time buying from the Sony book store .
The DRM sucks , and the store SUCKS.I do get a lot of Free books from ManyBooks.net , and have started buying from the only Publisher that I think gets it.http : //www.baen.com/ [ baen.com ] No DRM and their books are under 8 bucks .
Good stuff too if you like SF or Fantasy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The sony is not bad (505 model), but I have a hard time buying from the Sony book store.
The DRM sucks, and the store SUCKS.I do get a lot of Free books from ManyBooks.net, and have started buying from the only Publisher that I think gets it.http://www.baen.com/ [baen.com]No DRM and their books are under 8 bucks.
Good stuff too if you like SF or Fantasy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140856</id>
	<title>Notion Ink Adam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266170400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check out the imminent notion ink adam</p><p>http://www.technoholik.com/news/sneak-peek-video-notion-ink-adam/</p><p>It's capacitive, has a touchpad on the back, it uses the pixel Qi screen (transreflective, best of e-ink and LCD), has a camera and uses Android</p><p>Perfect</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out the imminent notion ink adamhttp : //www.technoholik.com/news/sneak-peek-video-notion-ink-adam/It 's capacitive , has a touchpad on the back , it uses the pixel Qi screen ( transreflective , best of e-ink and LCD ) , has a camera and uses AndroidPerfect</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out the imminent notion ink adamhttp://www.technoholik.com/news/sneak-peek-video-notion-ink-adam/It's capacitive, has a touchpad on the back, it uses the pixel Qi screen (transreflective, best of e-ink and LCD), has a camera and uses AndroidPerfect</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138876</id>
	<title>Re:The Sony</title>
	<author>shar303</author>
	<datestamp>1266154380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i will definitely second that.</p><p>the PRS600 that i've had for a few months is a wonder. its more portable than both kindles, is more open, and cheaper.</p><p>the other e-readers i've looked at feel cheap and are usually made of plastic. the sony has hardly any plastic in evidence at all.</p><p>together with calibre (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calibre\_(ebook\_software)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calibre\_(ebook\_software)</a> [wikipedia.org]) it's been a revelation.</p><p>battery life of 2 weeks, easy to read, touch screen. 1000 apologies for coming off like a shill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i will definitely second that.the PRS600 that i 've had for a few months is a wonder .
its more portable than both kindles , is more open , and cheaper.the other e-readers i 've looked at feel cheap and are usually made of plastic .
the sony has hardly any plastic in evidence at all.together with calibre ( http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calibre \ _ ( ebook \ _software ) [ wikipedia.org ] ) it 's been a revelation.battery life of 2 weeks , easy to read , touch screen .
1000 apologies for coming off like a shill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i will definitely second that.the PRS600 that i've had for a few months is a wonder.
its more portable than both kindles, is more open, and cheaper.the other e-readers i've looked at feel cheap and are usually made of plastic.
the sony has hardly any plastic in evidence at all.together with calibre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calibre\_(ebook\_software) [wikipedia.org]) it's been a revelation.battery life of 2 weeks, easy to read, touch screen.
1000 apologies for coming off like a shill.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138164</id>
	<title>Follow-up question: what's available in Canada?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266149820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Either available domestically, or with a minimum of shipping hassles?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Either available domestically , or with a minimum of shipping hassles ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Either available domestically, or with a minimum of shipping hassles?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139240</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>sowth</author>
	<datestamp>1266156840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pirate Bay is the best source for books? I don't think so. <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/" title="gutenberg.org">Project Gutenberg</a> [gutenberg.org] is the best source for books, unless you want technical manuals--then it depends upon what you need. There seems to be plenty of public domain and creative commons sources for those. (linux documentation prj., freebsd, lightandmatter.com, etc...)

</p><p>Or were you looking for modern teeny bopper crap? Just look for "fan fiction" sites (<a href="http://halo.bungie.org/fanfic/" title="bungie.org">Halo</a> [bungie.org] is "wonderful"), or just about any <a href="http://browse.deviantart.com/literature/" title="deviantart.com">site</a> [deviantart.com] which allows teenage girls to publish a "book." But then, those aren't any better than the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny\_dreadful" title="wikipedia.org">penny rags</a> [wikipedia.org] of yesteryear which are already in the public domain.

</p><p>Plenty of free places to legally get books. Makes me wonder why you would mention The Pirate Bay. Did some publisher pay you to do that so they could create "proof" they need DRM?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pirate Bay is the best source for books ?
I do n't think so .
Project Gutenberg [ gutenberg.org ] is the best source for books , unless you want technical manuals--then it depends upon what you need .
There seems to be plenty of public domain and creative commons sources for those .
( linux documentation prj. , freebsd , lightandmatter.com , etc... ) Or were you looking for modern teeny bopper crap ?
Just look for " fan fiction " sites ( Halo [ bungie.org ] is " wonderful " ) , or just about any site [ deviantart.com ] which allows teenage girls to publish a " book .
" But then , those are n't any better than the penny rags [ wikipedia.org ] of yesteryear which are already in the public domain .
Plenty of free places to legally get books .
Makes me wonder why you would mention The Pirate Bay .
Did some publisher pay you to do that so they could create " proof " they need DRM ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pirate Bay is the best source for books?
I don't think so.
Project Gutenberg [gutenberg.org] is the best source for books, unless you want technical manuals--then it depends upon what you need.
There seems to be plenty of public domain and creative commons sources for those.
(linux documentation prj., freebsd, lightandmatter.com, etc...)

Or were you looking for modern teeny bopper crap?
Just look for "fan fiction" sites (Halo [bungie.org] is "wonderful"), or just about any site [deviantart.com] which allows teenage girls to publish a "book.
" But then, those aren't any better than the penny rags [wikipedia.org] of yesteryear which are already in the public domain.
Plenty of free places to legally get books.
Makes me wonder why you would mention The Pirate Bay.
Did some publisher pay you to do that so they could create "proof" they need DRM?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138310</id>
	<title>I use a Nook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266150660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use a B&amp;N Nook<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... like it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...  Cons:  wish it had better battery life<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and not as many titles available as with the Kindle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use a B&amp;N Nook ... like it ... Cons : wish it had better battery life ... and not as many titles available as with the Kindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use a B&amp;N Nook ... like it ...  Cons:  wish it had better battery life ... and not as many titles available as with the Kindle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141310</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>doomy</author>
	<datestamp>1266176580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone who has been reading e-books since 1997 (palm et el), I have to say that I absolutely loathe e-Ink displays. The reason is cause, I mostly read in dark or low light conditions, and e-Ink fails here as do normal paper. I find LCD's with low brightness less straining than a Kindle, thus am looking forward to what Apple and possible competition would have to offer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who has been reading e-books since 1997 ( palm et el ) , I have to say that I absolutely loathe e-Ink displays .
The reason is cause , I mostly read in dark or low light conditions , and e-Ink fails here as do normal paper .
I find LCD 's with low brightness less straining than a Kindle , thus am looking forward to what Apple and possible competition would have to offer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who has been reading e-books since 1997 (palm et el), I have to say that I absolutely loathe e-Ink displays.
The reason is cause, I mostly read in dark or low light conditions, and e-Ink fails here as do normal paper.
I find LCD's with low brightness less straining than a Kindle, thus am looking forward to what Apple and possible competition would have to offer.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139170</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone/iPod Touch + GoodReader app + pdfs</title>
	<author>plagiarist</author>
	<datestamp>1266156420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought this too, until I tried to read a novel on my ipod Touch.  Admittedly, I used Kindle software rather than GoodReader, so maybe it makes a difference. But I found that having the pages come in such small chunks made reading very tedious.</p><p>Still, I like having ebooks available on my Touch and my Blackberry. Since I always have at least one of them with me, any time I have to wait around somewhere, I have reading material at the ready.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought this too , until I tried to read a novel on my ipod Touch .
Admittedly , I used Kindle software rather than GoodReader , so maybe it makes a difference .
But I found that having the pages come in such small chunks made reading very tedious.Still , I like having ebooks available on my Touch and my Blackberry .
Since I always have at least one of them with me , any time I have to wait around somewhere , I have reading material at the ready .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought this too, until I tried to read a novel on my ipod Touch.
Admittedly, I used Kindle software rather than GoodReader, so maybe it makes a difference.
But I found that having the pages come in such small chunks made reading very tedious.Still, I like having ebooks available on my Touch and my Blackberry.
Since I always have at least one of them with me, any time I have to wait around somewhere, I have reading material at the ready.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31142038</id>
	<title>Stanza on the iphone</title>
	<author>Niobe</author>
	<datestamp>1266228120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Great for reading in bed, and one of the few iphone apps where you can turn off the damn auto-rotation.

Doesn't support every format but a few, I just convert on my desktop first.

Really quite a good interface for reading as well. Easy to de/increase font size with the ol' pinch manoeuvre</htmltext>
<tokenext>Great for reading in bed , and one of the few iphone apps where you can turn off the damn auto-rotation .
Does n't support every format but a few , I just convert on my desktop first .
Really quite a good interface for reading as well .
Easy to de/increase font size with the ol ' pinch manoeuvre</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great for reading in bed, and one of the few iphone apps where you can turn off the damn auto-rotation.
Doesn't support every format but a few, I just convert on my desktop first.
Really quite a good interface for reading as well.
Easy to de/increase font size with the ol' pinch manoeuvre</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138242</id>
	<title>Came here to see someone recommend the iPad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266150240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I came here to see someone recommend the iPad, inspite the fact that, It has orders of magnitude less battery life than a kindle &amp; can't be used in direct sunlight and am leaving satisfied.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I came here to see someone recommend the iPad , inspite the fact that , It has orders of magnitude less battery life than a kindle &amp; ca n't be used in direct sunlight and am leaving satisfied .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I came here to see someone recommend the iPad, inspite the fact that, It has orders of magnitude less battery life than a kindle &amp; can't be used in direct sunlight and am leaving satisfied.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140184</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266164100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>how many of those can you read while waiting for one bus or on one flight?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how many of those can you read while waiting for one bus or on one flight ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how many of those can you read while waiting for one bus or on one flight?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Today, iPhone and Stanza, tomorrow...iPad?</title>
	<author>UttBuggly</author>
	<datestamp>1266250980000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I looked hard at the Sony and Kindle units and got neither.</p><p>I use my 3GS, Stanza, and Comixology . Also have the USA Today and NY Times apps for news.</p><p>I like the single device aspect, and readibility is good. Not excellent...I'm &gt; 50 and have reading glasses.</p><p>So, I'm considering the iPad. I did look at the latest Sony readers at Best Buy just yesterday and I still think color (especially for comics and news) and the larger form factor are what I want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I looked hard at the Sony and Kindle units and got neither.I use my 3GS , Stanza , and Comixology .
Also have the USA Today and NY Times apps for news.I like the single device aspect , and readibility is good .
Not excellent...I 'm &gt; 50 and have reading glasses.So , I 'm considering the iPad .
I did look at the latest Sony readers at Best Buy just yesterday and I still think color ( especially for comics and news ) and the larger form factor are what I want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I looked hard at the Sony and Kindle units and got neither.I use my 3GS, Stanza, and Comixology .
Also have the USA Today and NY Times apps for news.I like the single device aspect, and readibility is good.
Not excellent...I'm &gt; 50 and have reading glasses.So, I'm considering the iPad.
I did look at the latest Sony readers at Best Buy just yesterday and I still think color (especially for comics and news) and the larger form factor are what I want.</sentencetext>
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	<title>the NOOK!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266150720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hands down... the nook is a far superior eBook reading experience to the Kindle, which is second in my opinion. I have owned both, and though the first firmware version for the nook was bugged as all get out, they fixed most of the issues before Christmas. (Unfortunately, for them, not before Walt Mossberg reviewed the errors of the initial OS.) Now, with their second upgrade and complete interface overhaul -- the second upgrade in two months! -- the nook flies, its battery life is extended, and the bugs have all been ironed out.</p><p>Moreover, how can anyone think that the Kindle's closed format is better? The nook allows a variety of formats to be read or purchased elsewhere and read on the device. Due to its Android operating system, several hacks are available allowing you to stream Pandora while reading and even browse teh web in a manner very similar to the Kindle. Most importantly, though, the nook's fonts and screen brightness are far superior to the Kindle's -- which is like reading on recycled paper, whereas the nook feels like you are reading on a new, white sheet of paper.</p><p>All in all, the nook is much better. However, this is a ridiculous poll, because over a million Kindle users who have never used a nook are going to, by default, vote for the Kindle. The Kindle was great. It is now subpar. And until they keep updating and ramping up the Linux operating system on the Kindle as regularly and as well as the Android system on the nook, the Kindle will continue to fall behind. The hardware on the nook is superior (replaceable battery, microSD card insert), and the operating system seems to be far more flexible. Game, Set -- nook. Can Barnes and Noble get enough people to try it to win the Match, though?</p><p>Finally, as an iPhone owner, you have to be insane to think that lit background technology will ever compete with eInk. Yes, eInk is slow but it is meant to be easy on the eyes. It is. I would never choose to read on my iPhone over my nook or Kindle. Nor would most baby boomers -- the biggest market for eBooks, probably, now that they are entering retirement. These are different markets in my mind. I think the iPad will be a flop when it comes eBooks. I hope so. Apple is evil!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:&gt;)</p><p>Peace.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hands down... the nook is a far superior eBook reading experience to the Kindle , which is second in my opinion .
I have owned both , and though the first firmware version for the nook was bugged as all get out , they fixed most of the issues before Christmas .
( Unfortunately , for them , not before Walt Mossberg reviewed the errors of the initial OS .
) Now , with their second upgrade and complete interface overhaul -- the second upgrade in two months !
-- the nook flies , its battery life is extended , and the bugs have all been ironed out.Moreover , how can anyone think that the Kindle 's closed format is better ?
The nook allows a variety of formats to be read or purchased elsewhere and read on the device .
Due to its Android operating system , several hacks are available allowing you to stream Pandora while reading and even browse teh web in a manner very similar to the Kindle .
Most importantly , though , the nook 's fonts and screen brightness are far superior to the Kindle 's -- which is like reading on recycled paper , whereas the nook feels like you are reading on a new , white sheet of paper.All in all , the nook is much better .
However , this is a ridiculous poll , because over a million Kindle users who have never used a nook are going to , by default , vote for the Kindle .
The Kindle was great .
It is now subpar .
And until they keep updating and ramping up the Linux operating system on the Kindle as regularly and as well as the Android system on the nook , the Kindle will continue to fall behind .
The hardware on the nook is superior ( replaceable battery , microSD card insert ) , and the operating system seems to be far more flexible .
Game , Set -- nook .
Can Barnes and Noble get enough people to try it to win the Match , though ? Finally , as an iPhone owner , you have to be insane to think that lit background technology will ever compete with eInk .
Yes , eInk is slow but it is meant to be easy on the eyes .
It is .
I would never choose to read on my iPhone over my nook or Kindle .
Nor would most baby boomers -- the biggest market for eBooks , probably , now that they are entering retirement .
These are different markets in my mind .
I think the iPad will be a flop when it comes eBooks .
I hope so .
Apple is evil !
: &gt; ) Peace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hands down... the nook is a far superior eBook reading experience to the Kindle, which is second in my opinion.
I have owned both, and though the first firmware version for the nook was bugged as all get out, they fixed most of the issues before Christmas.
(Unfortunately, for them, not before Walt Mossberg reviewed the errors of the initial OS.
) Now, with their second upgrade and complete interface overhaul -- the second upgrade in two months!
-- the nook flies, its battery life is extended, and the bugs have all been ironed out.Moreover, how can anyone think that the Kindle's closed format is better?
The nook allows a variety of formats to be read or purchased elsewhere and read on the device.
Due to its Android operating system, several hacks are available allowing you to stream Pandora while reading and even browse teh web in a manner very similar to the Kindle.
Most importantly, though, the nook's fonts and screen brightness are far superior to the Kindle's -- which is like reading on recycled paper, whereas the nook feels like you are reading on a new, white sheet of paper.All in all, the nook is much better.
However, this is a ridiculous poll, because over a million Kindle users who have never used a nook are going to, by default, vote for the Kindle.
The Kindle was great.
It is now subpar.
And until they keep updating and ramping up the Linux operating system on the Kindle as regularly and as well as the Android system on the nook, the Kindle will continue to fall behind.
The hardware on the nook is superior (replaceable battery, microSD card insert), and the operating system seems to be far more flexible.
Game, Set -- nook.
Can Barnes and Noble get enough people to try it to win the Match, though?Finally, as an iPhone owner, you have to be insane to think that lit background technology will ever compete with eInk.
Yes, eInk is slow but it is meant to be easy on the eyes.
It is.
I would never choose to read on my iPhone over my nook or Kindle.
Nor would most baby boomers -- the biggest market for eBooks, probably, now that they are entering retirement.
These are different markets in my mind.
I think the iPad will be a flop when it comes eBooks.
I hope so.
Apple is evil!
:&gt;)Peace.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139646</id>
	<title>Re:The Sony</title>
	<author>Wumpus</author>
	<datestamp>1266159600000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Yes, exactly. I have a PRS 600 and I think it's great. Works great with Linux and Calibre.</p><p>My only gripe used to be that Sony's software is pretty buggy, and their eBook store is as DRM infested as Amazon's. But the device itself is about as good as you can make with an E Ink screen, it's easy to use and I find myself actually using it for its intended purpose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , exactly .
I have a PRS 600 and I think it 's great .
Works great with Linux and Calibre.My only gripe used to be that Sony 's software is pretty buggy , and their eBook store is as DRM infested as Amazon 's .
But the device itself is about as good as you can make with an E Ink screen , it 's easy to use and I find myself actually using it for its intended purpose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, exactly.
I have a PRS 600 and I think it's great.
Works great with Linux and Calibre.My only gripe used to be that Sony's software is pretty buggy, and their eBook store is as DRM infested as Amazon's.
But the device itself is about as good as you can make with an E Ink screen, it's easy to use and I find myself actually using it for its intended purpose.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Wrong question</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1266151920000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Probably the best device for reading books is not an e-reader. If you want to use books in the old style, but digital, there dedicated e-readers could be good enough, and are several good ones. But if you have to carry a device anyway, maybe that does more than just reading ebooks is part of the things that adds weight (in both senses) to other alternatives.<br><br>For me not having to carry an extra, dedicated device is one big advantage for me. Desktop computers, notebooks, netbooks, tablets, and even cellphones are alternatives that can do a lot more than just reading books. Portablility, good enough screen, battery life, are factors that are important too, and that several of those alternatives have. And you have their functionality too (internet, work, etc). Convertible notebooks (i.e. the Asus T91 or Lenovo S10-t3), tablets (yes, even the ipad), or big screen cellphones (iphone, droid, n900, etc) are good enough book readers and provide a lot more than most of the dedicated ones</htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably the best device for reading books is not an e-reader .
If you want to use books in the old style , but digital , there dedicated e-readers could be good enough , and are several good ones .
But if you have to carry a device anyway , maybe that does more than just reading ebooks is part of the things that adds weight ( in both senses ) to other alternatives.For me not having to carry an extra , dedicated device is one big advantage for me .
Desktop computers , notebooks , netbooks , tablets , and even cellphones are alternatives that can do a lot more than just reading books .
Portablility , good enough screen , battery life , are factors that are important too , and that several of those alternatives have .
And you have their functionality too ( internet , work , etc ) .
Convertible notebooks ( i.e .
the Asus T91 or Lenovo S10-t3 ) , tablets ( yes , even the ipad ) , or big screen cellphones ( iphone , droid , n900 , etc ) are good enough book readers and provide a lot more than most of the dedicated ones</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably the best device for reading books is not an e-reader.
If you want to use books in the old style, but digital, there dedicated e-readers could be good enough, and are several good ones.
But if you have to carry a device anyway, maybe that does more than just reading ebooks is part of the things that adds weight (in both senses) to other alternatives.For me not having to carry an extra, dedicated device is one big advantage for me.
Desktop computers, notebooks, netbooks, tablets, and even cellphones are alternatives that can do a lot more than just reading books.
Portablility, good enough screen, battery life, are factors that are important too, and that several of those alternatives have.
And you have their functionality too (internet, work, etc).
Convertible notebooks (i.e.
the Asus T91 or Lenovo S10-t3), tablets (yes, even the ipad), or big screen cellphones (iphone, droid, n900, etc) are good enough book readers and provide a lot more than most of the dedicated ones</sentencetext>
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	<title>Typical consumers don't use eReaders</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266235020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Typical consumers don't use eReaders. They buy books. So that's a weird thing to bring up. But that does lead to one reason why DRM is such an anti-feature.</p><p>When you can lend your mates a favourite book without them too needing a kindle (or other DRM-level compatible device) then DRM won't be a problem.</p><p>You can do that with books.</p><p>When you can sell it on the second-hand market like books (or just put it in a car boot sale), then DRM won't be a problem.</p><p>You can do that with books.</p><p>etc.</p><p>DRM stops all those things you do with books which is what the typical consumer uses.</p><p>Nerds buy eBooks and they either don't care about DRM or do. For those who don't care about DRM, they seem to think everyone shouldn't care about it and think anyone who does must be mentally disturbed or something.</p><p>Oddly, those who don't want DRM don't mind if YOU have it, but don't want it forced on them, even by the back door.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Typical consumers do n't use eReaders .
They buy books .
So that 's a weird thing to bring up .
But that does lead to one reason why DRM is such an anti-feature.When you can lend your mates a favourite book without them too needing a kindle ( or other DRM-level compatible device ) then DRM wo n't be a problem.You can do that with books.When you can sell it on the second-hand market like books ( or just put it in a car boot sale ) , then DRM wo n't be a problem.You can do that with books.etc.DRM stops all those things you do with books which is what the typical consumer uses.Nerds buy eBooks and they either do n't care about DRM or do .
For those who do n't care about DRM , they seem to think everyone should n't care about it and think anyone who does must be mentally disturbed or something.Oddly , those who do n't want DRM do n't mind if YOU have it , but do n't want it forced on them , even by the back door .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Typical consumers don't use eReaders.
They buy books.
So that's a weird thing to bring up.
But that does lead to one reason why DRM is such an anti-feature.When you can lend your mates a favourite book without them too needing a kindle (or other DRM-level compatible device) then DRM won't be a problem.You can do that with books.When you can sell it on the second-hand market like books (or just put it in a car boot sale), then DRM won't be a problem.You can do that with books.etc.DRM stops all those things you do with books which is what the typical consumer uses.Nerds buy eBooks and they either don't care about DRM or do.
For those who don't care about DRM, they seem to think everyone shouldn't care about it and think anyone who does must be mentally disturbed or something.Oddly, those who don't want DRM don't mind if YOU have it, but don't want it forced on them, even by the back door.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Sony</title>
	<author>^\_^x</author>
	<datestamp>1266314400000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I like the Sony readers. MP3 playback means nothing to me in a book reader - which is good since it has no way of sorting them. I specifically DO NOT want wireless connectivity of any kind. It's a waste of battery life for convenience that doesn't even make sense - I have 4GB of books loaded on my PRS-505; even if most are comics, I'm not going to run out of books in under a YEAR, much less need one in the next 5 minutes. Color touch screens are equally or more useless - just show me the book. I don't mind if the menu takes a second to draw each update; I have shortcut keys and it buffers them well, so I can just go *press press press* and wait a sec for it to do what I asked.<br>It does TXT, and many other formats like PDF, LRF, EPUB, etc. Using the third party app "Calibre" I can manage the books easily and tag them all for quick retrieval.<br>If you're one of those sensitive souls who feels wronged and raped for using a Memory Stick that cost $5 more than a no-name SD card... you can use an SD card.<br>It's thin. It's light. It's solidly built. You can get a nice leather cover for it, and it will magnetically hold shut gently. You can leave it on for a week on the same page, no problem... you can charge it by PSP type chargers, or USB mini-B.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like the Sony readers .
MP3 playback means nothing to me in a book reader - which is good since it has no way of sorting them .
I specifically DO NOT want wireless connectivity of any kind .
It 's a waste of battery life for convenience that does n't even make sense - I have 4GB of books loaded on my PRS-505 ; even if most are comics , I 'm not going to run out of books in under a YEAR , much less need one in the next 5 minutes .
Color touch screens are equally or more useless - just show me the book .
I do n't mind if the menu takes a second to draw each update ; I have shortcut keys and it buffers them well , so I can just go * press press press * and wait a sec for it to do what I asked.It does TXT , and many other formats like PDF , LRF , EPUB , etc .
Using the third party app " Calibre " I can manage the books easily and tag them all for quick retrieval.If you 're one of those sensitive souls who feels wronged and raped for using a Memory Stick that cost $ 5 more than a no-name SD card... you can use an SD card.It 's thin .
It 's light .
It 's solidly built .
You can get a nice leather cover for it , and it will magnetically hold shut gently .
You can leave it on for a week on the same page , no problem... you can charge it by PSP type chargers , or USB mini-B .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like the Sony readers.
MP3 playback means nothing to me in a book reader - which is good since it has no way of sorting them.
I specifically DO NOT want wireless connectivity of any kind.
It's a waste of battery life for convenience that doesn't even make sense - I have 4GB of books loaded on my PRS-505; even if most are comics, I'm not going to run out of books in under a YEAR, much less need one in the next 5 minutes.
Color touch screens are equally or more useless - just show me the book.
I don't mind if the menu takes a second to draw each update; I have shortcut keys and it buffers them well, so I can just go *press press press* and wait a sec for it to do what I asked.It does TXT, and many other formats like PDF, LRF, EPUB, etc.
Using the third party app "Calibre" I can manage the books easily and tag them all for quick retrieval.If you're one of those sensitive souls who feels wronged and raped for using a Memory Stick that cost $5 more than a no-name SD card... you can use an SD card.It's thin.
It's light.
It's solidly built.
You can get a nice leather cover for it, and it will magnetically hold shut gently.
You can leave it on for a week on the same page, no problem... you can charge it by PSP type chargers, or USB mini-B.</sentencetext>
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	<title>E-Book reader matrix</title>
	<author>BlackCreek</author>
	<datestamp>1266230580000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Concise and to the point comparison of all e-readers in the market: <a href="http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book\_Reader\_Matrix" title="mobileread.com">http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book\_Reader\_Matrix</a> [mobileread.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Concise and to the point comparison of all e-readers in the market : http : //wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book \ _Reader \ _Matrix [ mobileread.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Concise and to the point comparison of all e-readers in the market: http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book\_Reader\_Matrix [mobileread.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31145964</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Nicolay77</author>
	<datestamp>1266258720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Talk for yourself.</p><p>I do actually feel a huge craving when I finish a book.</p><p>What to read next ?</p><p>Do you want me to go to a trip, finish a book and then have <b>NOTHING</b> to read until I go back ?</p><p>Specially if I don't know what do I want to read next?</p><p>And I would probably finish a book in the trip, because I would probably be reading something already.</p><p>If you want me to carry 100 books to be able to satisfy my needs, you sir are a very cruel person.  U\_U</p><p>PD: Whoosh is overrated. <i>+1 Funny</i> is killing all the Insightfullnes of the comments, and turning this into a slow DIGG.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Talk for yourself.I do actually feel a huge craving when I finish a book.What to read next ? Do you want me to go to a trip , finish a book and then have NOTHING to read until I go back ? Specially if I do n't know what do I want to read next ? And I would probably finish a book in the trip , because I would probably be reading something already.If you want me to carry 100 books to be able to satisfy my needs , you sir are a very cruel person .
U \ _UPD : Whoosh is overrated .
+ 1 Funny is killing all the Insightfullnes of the comments , and turning this into a slow DIGG .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Talk for yourself.I do actually feel a huge craving when I finish a book.What to read next ?Do you want me to go to a trip, finish a book and then have NOTHING to read until I go back ?Specially if I don't know what do I want to read next?And I would probably finish a book in the trip, because I would probably be reading something already.If you want me to carry 100 books to be able to satisfy my needs, you sir are a very cruel person.
U\_UPD: Whoosh is overrated.
+1 Funny is killing all the Insightfullnes of the comments, and turning this into a slow DIGG.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266239760000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>My 6 day flight from california to afghanistan (with layovers) was a huge success with the addition of my prs-600. There is no way i would have stayed sane without my entire library to read at any time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My 6 day flight from california to afghanistan ( with layovers ) was a huge success with the addition of my prs-600 .
There is no way i would have stayed sane without my entire library to read at any time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My 6 day flight from california to afghanistan (with layovers) was a huge success with the addition of my prs-600.
There is no way i would have stayed sane without my entire library to read at any time.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Fooled me once, shame on you...</title>
	<author>bkpark</author>
	<datestamp>1266235260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I've seriously considered writing to Jeff Bezos and saying I will only buy a Kindle if he will arrange to get me free Kindle copies of all the books I bought, which the eBook industry has rendered useless piles of bits.</p></div></blockquote><p>While that <em>would</em> be nice, you are forgetting that there's no such thing as a free lunch&mdash;and when you bought your physical books, you were buying them with the explicit understanding that that's the only copy you got.</p><p>Imagine: if you buy hardcover version of a book, would you also demand that you should be given a free copy of the paperback (perhaps for a buck or so to cover the printing costs)? If you can't make that demand for printed copies (and most people would consider such demands unreasonable), why should you be able to make the same demand just because the copy is digital, instead of print?</p><p>If Amazon can work out that kind of deal, you, as Amazon's customer, will be paying for that in other ways&mdash;which is probably why they didn't work out such a deal.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I 've seriously considered writing to Jeff Bezos and saying I will only buy a Kindle if he will arrange to get me free Kindle copies of all the books I bought , which the eBook industry has rendered useless piles of bits.While that would be nice , you are forgetting that there 's no such thing as a free lunch    and when you bought your physical books , you were buying them with the explicit understanding that that 's the only copy you got.Imagine : if you buy hardcover version of a book , would you also demand that you should be given a free copy of the paperback ( perhaps for a buck or so to cover the printing costs ) ?
If you ca n't make that demand for printed copies ( and most people would consider such demands unreasonable ) , why should you be able to make the same demand just because the copy is digital , instead of print ? If Amazon can work out that kind of deal , you , as Amazon 's customer , will be paying for that in other ways    which is probably why they did n't work out such a deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've seriously considered writing to Jeff Bezos and saying I will only buy a Kindle if he will arrange to get me free Kindle copies of all the books I bought, which the eBook industry has rendered useless piles of bits.While that would be nice, you are forgetting that there's no such thing as a free lunch—and when you bought your physical books, you were buying them with the explicit understanding that that's the only copy you got.Imagine: if you buy hardcover version of a book, would you also demand that you should be given a free copy of the paperback (perhaps for a buck or so to cover the printing costs)?
If you can't make that demand for printed copies (and most people would consider such demands unreasonable), why should you be able to make the same demand just because the copy is digital, instead of print?If Amazon can work out that kind of deal, you, as Amazon's customer, will be paying for that in other ways—which is probably why they didn't work out such a deal.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138260</id>
	<title>Unless you're in US the answer is NONE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266150300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Currently Kindle is the only ebook reader available in part of Europe but with very limited book catalog - so limited I did not buy one. Others offer no paid catalog at all, which pretty much means if I wanted to, well I don't know, read ebooks on my ebook reader (I know, I know - WILD) I would have to rely on pirated books only, so if I wanted to give author some money for his hard work (not Umberto Eco, read any of his books and you'll see he's not working hard<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P ) I'd have to buy the paper version, which defies the whole point of owning an ebook reader.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Currently Kindle is the only ebook reader available in part of Europe but with very limited book catalog - so limited I did not buy one .
Others offer no paid catalog at all , which pretty much means if I wanted to , well I do n't know , read ebooks on my ebook reader ( I know , I know - WILD ) I would have to rely on pirated books only , so if I wanted to give author some money for his hard work ( not Umberto Eco , read any of his books and you 'll see he 's not working hard : P ) I 'd have to buy the paper version , which defies the whole point of owning an ebook reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Currently Kindle is the only ebook reader available in part of Europe but with very limited book catalog - so limited I did not buy one.
Others offer no paid catalog at all, which pretty much means if I wanted to, well I don't know, read ebooks on my ebook reader (I know, I know - WILD) I would have to rely on pirated books only, so if I wanted to give author some money for his hard work (not Umberto Eco, read any of his books and you'll see he's not working hard :P ) I'd have to buy the paper version, which defies the whole point of owning an ebook reader.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138592</id>
	<title>Re:iPad?</title>
	<author>DeadboltX</author>
	<datestamp>1266152400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the main benefits to a dedicated e-reader is that they have e-ink displays which are much easier on the eyes for extended reading than the brightly lit display of, say, an iPad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the main benefits to a dedicated e-reader is that they have e-ink displays which are much easier on the eyes for extended reading than the brightly lit display of , say , an iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the main benefits to a dedicated e-reader is that they have e-ink displays which are much easier on the eyes for extended reading than the brightly lit display of, say, an iPad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140790</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266169740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, because it's out of the question to sit around reading from an LCD all day.  You're liable to go blind doing something that crazy.</p><p>Oh, wait.  <b>99\% of people on this site have done exactly that since early adolescence.</b>  I guess e-ink isn't so all-falootin' important for sustained reading, after all.</p><p>Get over it.  e-Ink is the deadest of dead-end tech.  Once the post-iPad product generation comes out, nobody, but <i>nobody</i>, is going to spend hundreds of dollars on devices that can do only one thing well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , because it 's out of the question to sit around reading from an LCD all day .
You 're liable to go blind doing something that crazy.Oh , wait .
99 \ % of people on this site have done exactly that since early adolescence .
I guess e-ink is n't so all-falootin ' important for sustained reading , after all.Get over it .
e-Ink is the deadest of dead-end tech .
Once the post-iPad product generation comes out , nobody , but nobody , is going to spend hundreds of dollars on devices that can do only one thing well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, because it's out of the question to sit around reading from an LCD all day.
You're liable to go blind doing something that crazy.Oh, wait.
99\% of people on this site have done exactly that since early adolescence.
I guess e-ink isn't so all-falootin' important for sustained reading, after all.Get over it.
e-Ink is the deadest of dead-end tech.
Once the post-iPad product generation comes out, nobody, but nobody, is going to spend hundreds of dollars on devices that can do only one thing well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31141684</id>
	<title>Cool-er?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266266700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has anyone got an <a href="http://www.coolreaders.com/" title="coolreaders.com" rel="nofollow">Interead Cool-ER reader?</a> [coolreaders.com]</p><p>I have been looking at them aiming to buy an eReader . So far I have not found the one I like. It supports several formats (PDF, EPUB, FB2, RTF, TXT, HTML, PRC, JPG AND MP3) and the feature set seems OK... I am not trying to advertize them, as I DO NOT own one I don't know if they are any good, that's  just what I want to know!</p><p>I like the fact that they do not have wireless nor touch screen.</p><p>In any case, I am holding for (i) the 7in readers to be widespread and for the electrowetting technology to come out (I am sure that will decrease the price of current readers).</p><p>xtracto</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone got an Interead Cool-ER reader ?
[ coolreaders.com ] I have been looking at them aiming to buy an eReader .
So far I have not found the one I like .
It supports several formats ( PDF , EPUB , FB2 , RTF , TXT , HTML , PRC , JPG AND MP3 ) and the feature set seems OK... I am not trying to advertize them , as I DO NOT own one I do n't know if they are any good , that 's just what I want to know ! I like the fact that they do not have wireless nor touch screen.In any case , I am holding for ( i ) the 7in readers to be widespread and for the electrowetting technology to come out ( I am sure that will decrease the price of current readers ) .xtracto</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone got an Interead Cool-ER reader?
[coolreaders.com]I have been looking at them aiming to buy an eReader .
So far I have not found the one I like.
It supports several formats (PDF, EPUB, FB2, RTF, TXT, HTML, PRC, JPG AND MP3) and the feature set seems OK... I am not trying to advertize them, as I DO NOT own one I don't know if they are any good, that's  just what I want to know!I like the fact that they do not have wireless nor touch screen.In any case, I am holding for (i) the 7in readers to be widespread and for the electrowetting technology to come out (I am sure that will decrease the price of current readers).xtracto</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138548</id>
	<title>Re:The Book.</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1266152100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah yes, this old meme. Unfortunately, books fail hard at carrying capacity. One book I picked out of my shelf has 57 chars per line * 36 lines per page * 774 pages = 1588248 bytes, and one of those takes up a full pocket. I can have a few thousand of those in an ebook reader, which also takes up one pocket.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes , this old meme .
Unfortunately , books fail hard at carrying capacity .
One book I picked out of my shelf has 57 chars per line * 36 lines per page * 774 pages = 1588248 bytes , and one of those takes up a full pocket .
I can have a few thousand of those in an ebook reader , which also takes up one pocket .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes, this old meme.
Unfortunately, books fail hard at carrying capacity.
One book I picked out of my shelf has 57 chars per line * 36 lines per page * 774 pages = 1588248 bytes, and one of those takes up a full pocket.
I can have a few thousand of those in an ebook reader, which also takes up one pocket.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140916</id>
	<title>Re:The Sony</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266171300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agree - the Sony - non touch screen -  and I suggest using Calibre software rather than Sony's software.<br>
&nbsp; And for those that are thinking of the IPAD.<br>
&nbsp; Its a different market altogther - My sony goes weeks on a charge. I dont need to worry about DRM or hacking. It works on Linux (which I uses) or Mac or windows and any book I read on it - I know I can read again on my next ebook reader and my next one.<br>Its easy on the eyes. It uses virtually no power except when changing the page so i have convinced them to let me use it during take off and landing on planes (not invariably but more often than not - you wont succeed with that with an IPAD)</p><p>THINK BOOK -  if its a book  you want as close to a book as possible with more benefits - not disadvantages.  My NETbook fills other needs very well but the Ebook reader is irreplaceable !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agree - the Sony - non touch screen - and I suggest using Calibre software rather than Sony 's software .
  And for those that are thinking of the IPAD .
  Its a different market altogther - My sony goes weeks on a charge .
I dont need to worry about DRM or hacking .
It works on Linux ( which I uses ) or Mac or windows and any book I read on it - I know I can read again on my next ebook reader and my next one.Its easy on the eyes .
It uses virtually no power except when changing the page so i have convinced them to let me use it during take off and landing on planes ( not invariably but more often than not - you wont succeed with that with an IPAD ) THINK BOOK - if its a book you want as close to a book as possible with more benefits - not disadvantages .
My NETbook fills other needs very well but the Ebook reader is irreplaceable !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agree - the Sony - non touch screen -  and I suggest using Calibre software rather than Sony's software.
  And for those that are thinking of the IPAD.
  Its a different market altogther - My sony goes weeks on a charge.
I dont need to worry about DRM or hacking.
It works on Linux (which I uses) or Mac or windows and any book I read on it - I know I can read again on my next ebook reader and my next one.Its easy on the eyes.
It uses virtually no power except when changing the page so i have convinced them to let me use it during take off and landing on planes (not invariably but more often than not - you wont succeed with that with an IPAD)THINK BOOK -  if its a book  you want as close to a book as possible with more benefits - not disadvantages.
My NETbook fills other needs very well but the Ebook reader is irreplaceable !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138136</id>
	<title>Kindle</title>
	<author>mpoulton</author>
	<datestamp>1266149640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Amazon Kindle.  Is this even a legitimate competition?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Amazon Kindle .
Is this even a legitimate competition ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Amazon Kindle.
Is this even a legitimate competition?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138730</id>
	<title>e-book reader wish list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266153420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm looking for a reader with:<br>-free 3G for low bandwidth things like wiki/rss reader (like kindle, but with a better rss display)<br>-library e-book compatibility<br>-touchscreen</p><p>does this exist yet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm looking for a reader with : -free 3G for low bandwidth things like wiki/rss reader ( like kindle , but with a better rss display ) -library e-book compatibility-touchscreendoes this exist yet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm looking for a reader with:-free 3G for low bandwidth things like wiki/rss reader (like kindle, but with a better rss display)-library e-book compatibility-touchscreendoes this exist yet?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139322</id>
	<title>It's 2010; Where's my fucking flying car?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266157440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just sayin'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just sayin'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just sayin'</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31139156</id>
	<title>I went for a Pocketbook 301</title>
	<author>EdgeyEdgey</author>
	<datestamp>1266156120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.pocketbookreader.com/PocketBook\_301.html" title="pocketbookreader.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pocketbookreader.com/PocketBook\_301.html</a> [pocketbookreader.com]
<br>
Does lots of formats (inc Djvu)<br>
Takes 32gb SD cards<br>
16 gray scale<br>
Runs linux</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.pocketbookreader.com/PocketBook \ _301.html [ pocketbookreader.com ] Does lots of formats ( inc Djvu ) Takes 32gb SD cards 16 gray scale Runs linux</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.pocketbookreader.com/PocketBook\_301.html [pocketbookreader.com]

Does lots of formats (inc Djvu)
Takes 32gb SD cards
16 gray scale
Runs linux</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140258</id>
	<title>Re:Que</title>
	<author>masmullin</author>
	<datestamp>1266164820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its NOT the size of a piece of paper... the 8.5" by 11" advertising (that you just bought hook line and sinker) is the size of the entire device.</p><p>the PLQ screen size is about the size of a sheet of paper \_\_With the margins removed\_\_ (I actually took the measurements and drew them on a piece of paper... its rather exact to a no margined piece of notebook paper).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its NOT the size of a piece of paper... the 8.5 " by 11 " advertising ( that you just bought hook line and sinker ) is the size of the entire device.the PLQ screen size is about the size of a sheet of paper \ _ \ _With the margins removed \ _ \ _ ( I actually took the measurements and drew them on a piece of paper... its rather exact to a no margined piece of notebook paper ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its NOT the size of a piece of paper... the 8.5" by 11" advertising (that you just bought hook line and sinker) is the size of the entire device.the PLQ screen size is about the size of a sheet of paper \_\_With the margins removed\_\_ (I actually took the measurements and drew them on a piece of paper... its rather exact to a no margined piece of notebook paper).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140848</id>
	<title>The nook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266170400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But since I work on it I'm a bit biased.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But since I work on it I 'm a bit biased .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But since I work on it I'm a bit biased.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138440</id>
	<title>My Smartphone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266151560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use my E65 as an e-reader also. I can do, almost everything with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use my E65 as an e-reader also .
I can do , almost everything with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use my E65 as an e-reader also.
I can do, almost everything with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138658</id>
	<title>for me, the HTC HD2</title>
	<author>obarthelemy</author>
	<datestamp>1266152940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To me, the HTC HD2 because it offers the following advantages:<br>- size = 0. Since I'll be carrying a smartphone anyway, the ereader adds 0 weight/space<br>- cost = 0. Same reasons. ditto extra stuff to carry.<br>- web browser, including offline (I do a surprising amount of "reading" off web sites, winhttrack is my friend)<br>- color<br>- video and music are nice extras<br>- support for almost all formats<br>- Wifi + 3g included, for free too since I pay for them as a phone.<br>- wide choice of software</p><p>drawbacks:<br>- smallish screen (4"3)... I'm waiting on the Dell Streak<br>- LCD screen not as good as e-ink in bright sunlight (but better in all other cases)<br>- good only for recreational reading, I wouldn't read a manual, course book... on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To me , the HTC HD2 because it offers the following advantages : - size = 0 .
Since I 'll be carrying a smartphone anyway , the ereader adds 0 weight/space- cost = 0 .
Same reasons .
ditto extra stuff to carry.- web browser , including offline ( I do a surprising amount of " reading " off web sites , winhttrack is my friend ) - color- video and music are nice extras- support for almost all formats- Wifi + 3g included , for free too since I pay for them as a phone.- wide choice of softwaredrawbacks : - smallish screen ( 4 " 3 ) ... I 'm waiting on the Dell Streak- LCD screen not as good as e-ink in bright sunlight ( but better in all other cases ) - good only for recreational reading , I would n't read a manual , course book... on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me, the HTC HD2 because it offers the following advantages:- size = 0.
Since I'll be carrying a smartphone anyway, the ereader adds 0 weight/space- cost = 0.
Same reasons.
ditto extra stuff to carry.- web browser, including offline (I do a surprising amount of "reading" off web sites, winhttrack is my friend)- color- video and music are nice extras- support for almost all formats- Wifi + 3g included, for free too since I pay for them as a phone.- wide choice of softwaredrawbacks:- smallish screen (4"3)... I'm waiting on the Dell Streak- LCD screen not as good as e-ink in bright sunlight (but better in all other cases)- good only for recreational reading, I wouldn't read a manual, course book... on it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138210</id>
	<title>Re:Answer:</title>
	<author>techno-vampire</author>
	<datestamp>1266150000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Personally, I prefer my desktop.  It may not be portable, but the screen's much bigger and with my bad vision, that's an important consideration.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I prefer my desktop .
It may not be portable , but the screen 's much bigger and with my bad vision , that 's an important consideration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I prefer my desktop.
It may not be portable, but the screen's much bigger and with my bad vision, that's an important consideration.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140290</id>
	<title>Re:It's all about content</title>
	<author>itsthebin</author>
	<datestamp>1266165180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Notion Ink Adam - <a href="http://www.notionink.in/adamtechspecs.php" title="notionink.in">http://www.notionink.in/adamtechspecs.php</a> [notionink.in]
<br>
<br>
lack of HSUPA is the only drawback I can see - HSPDA does not have the upload speed I want for good def video calling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Notion Ink Adam - http : //www.notionink.in/adamtechspecs.php [ notionink.in ] lack of HSUPA is the only drawback I can see - HSPDA does not have the upload speed I want for good def video calling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notion Ink Adam - http://www.notionink.in/adamtechspecs.php [notionink.in]


lack of HSUPA is the only drawback I can see - HSPDA does not have the upload speed I want for good def video calling.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31140336</id>
	<title>Astak 5" EZ Reader</title>
	<author>zaivala</author>
	<datestamp>1266165720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In my experience the Astak EZ Reader 5" is the best deal out there.  No, it does not have wireless connectivity.  No, it does not have its own repository.  But you can buy books from anybody and have no problem whatever.  It runs Linux, has 8-shade grey-scale (not 4 of the cheaper ones or 16 of these $700 jobs).  You download the book to your desktop or notebook, then transfer it via USB.  The price is a winner too, you can find it some places for $199 - $230.  (There's a used one on eBay for $189 Buy It Now, claims only 2 weeks' use.)  They also have a 6" model for not much more.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In my experience the Astak EZ Reader 5 " is the best deal out there .
No , it does not have wireless connectivity .
No , it does not have its own repository .
But you can buy books from anybody and have no problem whatever .
It runs Linux , has 8-shade grey-scale ( not 4 of the cheaper ones or 16 of these $ 700 jobs ) .
You download the book to your desktop or notebook , then transfer it via USB .
The price is a winner too , you can find it some places for $ 199 - $ 230 .
( There 's a used one on eBay for $ 189 Buy It Now , claims only 2 weeks ' use .
) They also have a 6 " model for not much more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In my experience the Astak EZ Reader 5" is the best deal out there.
No, it does not have wireless connectivity.
No, it does not have its own repository.
But you can buy books from anybody and have no problem whatever.
It runs Linux, has 8-shade grey-scale (not 4 of the cheaper ones or 16 of these $700 jobs).
You download the book to your desktop or notebook, then transfer it via USB.
The price is a winner too, you can find it some places for $199 - $230.
(There's a used one on eBay for $189 Buy It Now, claims only 2 weeks' use.
)  They also have a 6" model for not much more.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2224251.31138632</id>
	<title>SmartQ v7</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266152640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're not opposed to Chinese made, check out the SmartQ V7 : <a href="http://en.smartdevices.com.cn/Products/SmartQ7/200905/27-3.html" title="smartdevices.com.cn">http://en.smartdevices.com.cn/Products/SmartQ7/200905/27-3.html</a> [smartdevices.com.cn].</p><p>Also, <a href="http://www.mobileread.com/" title="mobileread.com">http://www.mobileread.com/</a> [mobileread.com] is a focused e-reader forum.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're not opposed to Chinese made , check out the SmartQ V7 : http : //en.smartdevices.com.cn/Products/SmartQ7/200905/27-3.html [ smartdevices.com.cn ] .Also , http : //www.mobileread.com/ [ mobileread.com ] is a focused e-reader forum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're not opposed to Chinese made, check out the SmartQ V7 : http://en.smartdevices.com.cn/Products/SmartQ7/200905/27-3.html [smartdevices.com.cn].Also, http://www.mobileread.com/ [mobileread.com] is a focused e-reader forum.</sentencetext>
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