<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_14_1840243</id>
	<title>Southwest Declares Kevin Smith Too Fat To Fly</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1266176460000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>theodp writes <i>"Kevin Smith is not a happy Southwest customer. The director <a href="http://www.popeater.com/2010/02/14/kevin-smith-southwest-twitter/">was thrown off a flight from Oakland to Burbank, after being deemed too fat to fly</a>. He later wound up on another Southwest flight, but has declared <a href="http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-beat/Its-On-Southwest-Airlines-Ad-Campaign.html">It's On</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/ThatKevinSmith">taken his rants to Twitter</a>. 'Dear @SouthwestAir &mdash; I know I'm fat, but was Captain Leysath really justified in throwing me off a flight for which I was already seated?' he began. He also let the airline know he'd made it to his destination. 'Hey @SouthwestAir! I've landed in Burbank. Don't worry: wall of the plane was opened &amp; I was airlifted out while Richard Simmons supervised.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>theodp writes " Kevin Smith is not a happy Southwest customer .
The director was thrown off a flight from Oakland to Burbank , after being deemed too fat to fly .
He later wound up on another Southwest flight , but has declared It 's On and taken his rants to Twitter .
'Dear @ SouthwestAir    I know I 'm fat , but was Captain Leysath really justified in throwing me off a flight for which I was already seated ?
' he began .
He also let the airline know he 'd made it to his destination .
'Hey @ SouthwestAir !
I 've landed in Burbank .
Do n't worry : wall of the plane was opened &amp; I was airlifted out while Richard Simmons supervised .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>theodp writes "Kevin Smith is not a happy Southwest customer.
The director was thrown off a flight from Oakland to Burbank, after being deemed too fat to fly.
He later wound up on another Southwest flight, but has declared It's On and taken his rants to Twitter.
'Dear @SouthwestAir — I know I'm fat, but was Captain Leysath really justified in throwing me off a flight for which I was already seated?
' he began.
He also let the airline know he'd made it to his destination.
'Hey @SouthwestAir!
I've landed in Burbank.
Don't worry: wall of the plane was opened &amp; I was airlifted out while Richard Simmons supervised.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138018</id>
	<title>Re:FFS!</title>
	<author>Nimey</author>
	<datestamp>1266148680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Leave Britney alone!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Leave Britney alone !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Leave Britney alone!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137080</id>
	<title>I have to wonder why "entertainment"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266142440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to wonder why "entertainment"? And yes, if your arse hangs out over two or three seats, yes, you're too fat to fly in cattle car. Sorry, but you're not "big boned" 'cos there's no such thing as an "arse bone". I'm no lightweight myself, but when I sit in a seat I can (if I'm on the aisle) lean out and not encroach on the next seat and people can still walk past me.</p><p>When one butt-cheek can take up the whole seat, get two seats or buy first class.</p><p>Don't like it? Then stop eating so much and start exercising.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to wonder why " entertainment " ?
And yes , if your arse hangs out over two or three seats , yes , you 're too fat to fly in cattle car .
Sorry , but you 're not " big boned " 'cos there 's no such thing as an " arse bone " .
I 'm no lightweight myself , but when I sit in a seat I can ( if I 'm on the aisle ) lean out and not encroach on the next seat and people can still walk past me.When one butt-cheek can take up the whole seat , get two seats or buy first class.Do n't like it ?
Then stop eating so much and start exercising .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to wonder why "entertainment"?
And yes, if your arse hangs out over two or three seats, yes, you're too fat to fly in cattle car.
Sorry, but you're not "big boned" 'cos there's no such thing as an "arse bone".
I'm no lightweight myself, but when I sit in a seat I can (if I'm on the aisle) lean out and not encroach on the next seat and people can still walk past me.When one butt-cheek can take up the whole seat, get two seats or buy first class.Don't like it?
Then stop eating so much and start exercising.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137862</id>
	<title>Airlines should charge by the kilogram</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266147540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As it is, allowing huge fat Americans to fly on the same plane, and for the same price, as little Asians is blatant racism designed to force the tiny Japanese and Chinese people to subsidise Mr and Mrs Fatso from Arkansas.</p><p>At the check in, a passenger should be made to stand on the scales along with all their luggage, and they should be charged in proportion to the total weight.</p><p>What are the airlines running? Some kind of fantastical socialist utopia where everyone is equally thin regardless of how fat they are? This is madness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As it is , allowing huge fat Americans to fly on the same plane , and for the same price , as little Asians is blatant racism designed to force the tiny Japanese and Chinese people to subsidise Mr and Mrs Fatso from Arkansas.At the check in , a passenger should be made to stand on the scales along with all their luggage , and they should be charged in proportion to the total weight.What are the airlines running ?
Some kind of fantastical socialist utopia where everyone is equally thin regardless of how fat they are ?
This is madness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As it is, allowing huge fat Americans to fly on the same plane, and for the same price, as little Asians is blatant racism designed to force the tiny Japanese and Chinese people to subsidise Mr and Mrs Fatso from Arkansas.At the check in, a passenger should be made to stand on the scales along with all their luggage, and they should be charged in proportion to the total weight.What are the airlines running?
Some kind of fantastical socialist utopia where everyone is equally thin regardless of how fat they are?
This is madness.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137148</id>
	<title>Re:Southwest Airlines "Customer of Size" Q&amp;A</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266142740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Our policy does not focus on weight, and the seatbelt extension is not the determining factor. We use the ability to lower the armrests as the gauge, as the armrests are truly the definitive boundary between each seat.</p></div><p>From: <a href="http://www.popeater.com/2010/02/14/kevin-smith-southwest-twitter/" title="popeater.com">TFA Link</a> [popeater.com] <br>
"why wait til my bag is up, and I'm seated WITH ARM RESTS DOWN. In front of a packed plane with a bunch of folks who'd already I.d.ed me as 'Silent Bob,"

<br> <br>
Irrelevant of all the other slashdot members complaining that "being fat is disgusting", the fact remains that Southwest Airlines went against their OWN policies, and they didn't go about this in the right way at all. If he was already seated comfortably, wasn't blocking the aisle and no other customers complained, then what the hell is their problem?!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Our policy does not focus on weight , and the seatbelt extension is not the determining factor .
We use the ability to lower the armrests as the gauge , as the armrests are truly the definitive boundary between each seat.From : TFA Link [ popeater.com ] " why wait til my bag is up , and I 'm seated WITH ARM RESTS DOWN .
In front of a packed plane with a bunch of folks who 'd already I.d.ed me as 'Silent Bob , " Irrelevant of all the other slashdot members complaining that " being fat is disgusting " , the fact remains that Southwest Airlines went against their OWN policies , and they did n't go about this in the right way at all .
If he was already seated comfortably , was n't blocking the aisle and no other customers complained , then what the hell is their problem ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our policy does not focus on weight, and the seatbelt extension is not the determining factor.
We use the ability to lower the armrests as the gauge, as the armrests are truly the definitive boundary between each seat.From: TFA Link [popeater.com] 
"why wait til my bag is up, and I'm seated WITH ARM RESTS DOWN.
In front of a packed plane with a bunch of folks who'd already I.d.ed me as 'Silent Bob,"

 
Irrelevant of all the other slashdot members complaining that "being fat is disgusting", the fact remains that Southwest Airlines went against their OWN policies, and they didn't go about this in the right way at all.
If he was already seated comfortably, wasn't blocking the aisle and no other customers complained, then what the hell is their problem?
!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141194</id>
	<title>Fat Guts Bob</title>
	<author>dogzdik</author>
	<datestamp>1266174720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not only is Bob a two seats wide in the ass liability; he is also a total hazard to the people all around him as well.

<p>

When the plane crahes, Fat Bob will change to Ballistic Bob and take out all the passengers in front of him - when he launches out of his seat., taking the seat and it's mounts with him...

</p><p>

And no transformation from Fat Bob to Ballistic Bob will be complete without becoming BLEVE Bob -
</p><p>
Cause half a ton of hot lard bouncing around inside a plane, will become an explosive fire hazard.......

</p><p>

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLEVE" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLEVE</a> [wikipedia.org] </p><p>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvThP6zdfMw" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvThP6zdfMw</a> [youtube.com]

</p><p>

Face it Lard Arse - your a hazard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only is Bob a two seats wide in the ass liability ; he is also a total hazard to the people all around him as well .
When the plane crahes , Fat Bob will change to Ballistic Bob and take out all the passengers in front of him - when he launches out of his seat. , taking the seat and it 's mounts with him.. . And no transformation from Fat Bob to Ballistic Bob will be complete without becoming BLEVE Bob - Cause half a ton of hot lard bouncing around inside a plane , will become an explosive fire hazard...... . http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLEVE [ wikipedia.org ] http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = LvThP6zdfMw [ youtube.com ] Face it Lard Arse - your a hazard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only is Bob a two seats wide in the ass liability; he is also a total hazard to the people all around him as well.
When the plane crahes, Fat Bob will change to Ballistic Bob and take out all the passengers in front of him - when he launches out of his seat., taking the seat and it's mounts with him...



And no transformation from Fat Bob to Ballistic Bob will be complete without becoming BLEVE Bob -

Cause half a ton of hot lard bouncing around inside a plane, will become an explosive fire hazard.......



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLEVE [wikipedia.org] 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvThP6zdfMw [youtube.com]



Face it Lard Arse - your a hazard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141366</id>
	<title>Re:Yuh Huh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266177180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you the guy crushing my knees? Because you sure sound like you're about to tell me that if I want my kneecaps intact I should by the seat in front of my instead of blocking the lean space you paid for.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you the guy crushing my knees ?
Because you sure sound like you 're about to tell me that if I want my kneecaps intact I should by the seat in front of my instead of blocking the lean space you paid for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you the guy crushing my knees?
Because you sure sound like you're about to tell me that if I want my kneecaps intact I should by the seat in front of my instead of blocking the lean space you paid for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138428</id>
	<title>If the airlines had thier way...</title>
	<author>jd2112</author>
	<datestamp>1266151500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Coach seating would use Kate Moss as a benchmark of the average airline passenger and anyone larger would have to buy two (or more) seats.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Coach seating would use Kate Moss as a benchmark of the average airline passenger and anyone larger would have to buy two ( or more ) seats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coach seating would use Kate Moss as a benchmark of the average airline passenger and anyone larger would have to buy two (or more) seats.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141262</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>quenda</author>
	<datestamp>1266175860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I weigh about 260lbs now. I eat sensibly, get exercise, but none of it does any good at reducing my fat.</p> </div><p>Obviously you are not eating sensibly for your condition.  Slow metabolism by itself will not make you fat. You have to be eating as if you still had a faster metabolism.<br>Adjusting eating habits is difficult, which is why so many of us get larger in middle age. Each snack or meal is a choice.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I weigh about 260lbs now .
I eat sensibly , get exercise , but none of it does any good at reducing my fat .
Obviously you are not eating sensibly for your condition .
Slow metabolism by itself will not make you fat .
You have to be eating as if you still had a faster metabolism.Adjusting eating habits is difficult , which is why so many of us get larger in middle age .
Each snack or meal is a choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I weigh about 260lbs now.
I eat sensibly, get exercise, but none of it does any good at reducing my fat.
Obviously you are not eating sensibly for your condition.
Slow metabolism by itself will not make you fat.
You have to be eating as if you still had a faster metabolism.Adjusting eating habits is difficult, which is why so many of us get larger in middle age.
Each snack or meal is a choice.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31145972</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1266258720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a rare condition called "Tourette's" that, in a small number of sufferers, causes them to loudly blurt out offensive words and phrases.  There is another, not so rare, condition that causes people to loudly blurt out offensive words and phrases.  Call it "assholeism."  The former condition is caused by genetic factors while the latter is entirely a matter of personal choices.</p><p>It can be difficult to distinguish these disorders but since expletive-blurting Tourette's is so rare we generally assume people who have the above symptoms are assholes.  Since we want to have some negative feedback to control the spread of assholeism (for the good of everyone), we generally use social pressure to discourage these people.  In the very rare event that we meet an expletive-blurting Tourette's sufferer this can lead to poor treatment of the sufferer but generally, with a simple explanation from the sufferer or from another person, we are happy to accept their condition as not their fault and fully accept them as valued members of our social group.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a rare condition called " Tourette 's " that , in a small number of sufferers , causes them to loudly blurt out offensive words and phrases .
There is another , not so rare , condition that causes people to loudly blurt out offensive words and phrases .
Call it " assholeism .
" The former condition is caused by genetic factors while the latter is entirely a matter of personal choices.It can be difficult to distinguish these disorders but since expletive-blurting Tourette 's is so rare we generally assume people who have the above symptoms are assholes .
Since we want to have some negative feedback to control the spread of assholeism ( for the good of everyone ) , we generally use social pressure to discourage these people .
In the very rare event that we meet an expletive-blurting Tourette 's sufferer this can lead to poor treatment of the sufferer but generally , with a simple explanation from the sufferer or from another person , we are happy to accept their condition as not their fault and fully accept them as valued members of our social group .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a rare condition called "Tourette's" that, in a small number of sufferers, causes them to loudly blurt out offensive words and phrases.
There is another, not so rare, condition that causes people to loudly blurt out offensive words and phrases.
Call it "assholeism.
"  The former condition is caused by genetic factors while the latter is entirely a matter of personal choices.It can be difficult to distinguish these disorders but since expletive-blurting Tourette's is so rare we generally assume people who have the above symptoms are assholes.
Since we want to have some negative feedback to control the spread of assholeism (for the good of everyone), we generally use social pressure to discourage these people.
In the very rare event that we meet an expletive-blurting Tourette's sufferer this can lead to poor treatment of the sufferer but generally, with a simple explanation from the sufferer or from another person, we are happy to accept their condition as not their fault and fully accept them as valued members of our social group.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141006</id>
	<title>Re:Because they're spilling over into my seat</title>
	<author>MadCat</author>
	<datestamp>1266172560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not much choice sometimes, I'm 6'1", weigh around 190lbs - this makes me a chunky mother. Unfortunately, whereas my gut and my legs fit just fine in one seat, due to being a bit on the tall end, I often can't fit my legs in the available space, unless I want to poke my knees in the back of the person in front of me. The same goes for arms and elbows. I usually get an isle seat so I can stick my legs out in the isle, and stick an elbow out in there too just so I can sit comfortably.</p><p>It's not just about "fatties", it is the fact that most airlines have reduced seat space and crammed more seats in compared to before. And for me, upgrading from coach to business or first class isn't an option, I'm not made of money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not much choice sometimes , I 'm 6'1 " , weigh around 190lbs - this makes me a chunky mother .
Unfortunately , whereas my gut and my legs fit just fine in one seat , due to being a bit on the tall end , I often ca n't fit my legs in the available space , unless I want to poke my knees in the back of the person in front of me .
The same goes for arms and elbows .
I usually get an isle seat so I can stick my legs out in the isle , and stick an elbow out in there too just so I can sit comfortably.It 's not just about " fatties " , it is the fact that most airlines have reduced seat space and crammed more seats in compared to before .
And for me , upgrading from coach to business or first class is n't an option , I 'm not made of money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not much choice sometimes, I'm 6'1", weigh around 190lbs - this makes me a chunky mother.
Unfortunately, whereas my gut and my legs fit just fine in one seat, due to being a bit on the tall end, I often can't fit my legs in the available space, unless I want to poke my knees in the back of the person in front of me.
The same goes for arms and elbows.
I usually get an isle seat so I can stick my legs out in the isle, and stick an elbow out in there too just so I can sit comfortably.It's not just about "fatties", it is the fact that most airlines have reduced seat space and crammed more seats in compared to before.
And for me, upgrading from coach to business or first class isn't an option, I'm not made of money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31143548</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>Mr\_Silver</author>
	<datestamp>1266246840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>There is a condition known as "hypothyroidism". There are many causes; in my case it was an auto-immune disease known as "Grave's Disease". It caused my body to attack my own thyroid gland - a gland in the neck that secretes thyroid hormone, which controls most of a person's metabolism. The reaction from the thyroid is to over-produce thyroid hormone, sending your metabolism into overdrive.</p></div></blockquote><p>You raise an extremely valid point and whilst I sympathise greatly with your medically diagnosed problem, you need to look at the figures to understand why people are saying what they do</p><p>According to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothyroidism" title="wikipedia.org">wikipedia</a> [wikipedia.org] about 3\% of the population suffer "hypothyroidism".</p><p>Yet, according to the <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/trends.html#State" title="cdc.gov">CDC</a> [cdc.gov]:</p><blockquote><div><p>In 2008, only one state (Colorado) had a prevalence of obesity less than 20\%. Thirty-two states had a prevalence equal to or greater than 25\%; six of these states (Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia) had a prevalence of obesity equal to or greater than 30\%.</p></div></blockquote><p>Once you take the 3\% out of those numbers, the sad fact is that too many people just eat too much and exercise too little.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a condition known as " hypothyroidism " .
There are many causes ; in my case it was an auto-immune disease known as " Grave 's Disease " .
It caused my body to attack my own thyroid gland - a gland in the neck that secretes thyroid hormone , which controls most of a person 's metabolism .
The reaction from the thyroid is to over-produce thyroid hormone , sending your metabolism into overdrive.You raise an extremely valid point and whilst I sympathise greatly with your medically diagnosed problem , you need to look at the figures to understand why people are saying what they doAccording to wikipedia [ wikipedia.org ] about 3 \ % of the population suffer " hypothyroidism " .Yet , according to the CDC [ cdc.gov ] : In 2008 , only one state ( Colorado ) had a prevalence of obesity less than 20 \ % .
Thirty-two states had a prevalence equal to or greater than 25 \ % ; six of these states ( Alabama , Mississippi , Oklahoma , South Carolina , Tennessee , and West Virginia ) had a prevalence of obesity equal to or greater than 30 \ % .Once you take the 3 \ % out of those numbers , the sad fact is that too many people just eat too much and exercise too little .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a condition known as "hypothyroidism".
There are many causes; in my case it was an auto-immune disease known as "Grave's Disease".
It caused my body to attack my own thyroid gland - a gland in the neck that secretes thyroid hormone, which controls most of a person's metabolism.
The reaction from the thyroid is to over-produce thyroid hormone, sending your metabolism into overdrive.You raise an extremely valid point and whilst I sympathise greatly with your medically diagnosed problem, you need to look at the figures to understand why people are saying what they doAccording to wikipedia [wikipedia.org] about 3\% of the population suffer "hypothyroidism".Yet, according to the CDC [cdc.gov]:In 2008, only one state (Colorado) had a prevalence of obesity less than 20\%.
Thirty-two states had a prevalence equal to or greater than 25\%; six of these states (Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia) had a prevalence of obesity equal to or greater than 30\%.Once you take the 3\% out of those numbers, the sad fact is that too many people just eat too much and exercise too little.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31149116</id>
	<title>Fat, big, whatever</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266231240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about tall people?  Last time I flew, I had no problems with seat width despite being a fatty but my knees were in the back of the seat in front of me and I'm 5'7".  Is somebody who's 6'5" too tall to fly?  Cuz man, I sat next to a guy who was at least that tall if not taller and he looked like his knees were up by his ears.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about tall people ?
Last time I flew , I had no problems with seat width despite being a fatty but my knees were in the back of the seat in front of me and I 'm 5'7 " .
Is somebody who 's 6'5 " too tall to fly ?
Cuz man , I sat next to a guy who was at least that tall if not taller and he looked like his knees were up by his ears .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about tall people?
Last time I flew, I had no problems with seat width despite being a fatty but my knees were in the back of the seat in front of me and I'm 5'7".
Is somebody who's 6'5" too tall to fly?
Cuz man, I sat next to a guy who was at least that tall if not taller and he looked like his knees were up by his ears.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136242</id>
	<title>Not too fat...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266180180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...to get first post!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...to get first post !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...to get first post!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140388</id>
	<title>Re:Too Fat to Fly?</title>
	<author>jzarling</author>
	<datestamp>1266166140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I understand completely. I am 6'8", and @ 300lbs am considered morbidly obese, I try to buy 2 seats when I fly just for the some extra legroom, or to sit a bit sideways for my knees.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I understand completely .
I am 6'8 " , and @ 300lbs am considered morbidly obese , I try to buy 2 seats when I fly just for the some extra legroom , or to sit a bit sideways for my knees .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understand completely.
I am 6'8", and @ 300lbs am considered morbidly obese, I try to buy 2 seats when I fly just for the some extra legroom, or to sit a bit sideways for my knees.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136588</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31142992</id>
	<title>Personal Preference</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266241320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Honestly, usually I don't get much of a choice over which fat person I have to sit next to on a plane.  However, if I had the choice, it would be Kevin Smith.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , usually I do n't get much of a choice over which fat person I have to sit next to on a plane .
However , if I had the choice , it would be Kevin Smith .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, usually I don't get much of a choice over which fat person I have to sit next to on a plane.
However, if I had the choice, it would be Kevin Smith.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31143370</id>
	<title>Re:Here's what really happened ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266245520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A "registered Republican"? Aren't Democrats allowed to hate Michael Moore too?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A " registered Republican " ?
Are n't Democrats allowed to hate Michael Moore too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A "registered Republican"?
Aren't Democrats allowed to hate Michael Moore too?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136524</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31142852</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>Shivantrill</author>
	<datestamp>1266239160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Southwest doesn't have a first class section.  From Oakland to Burbank, the route he was taking, is an hour flight.  It's like a commuter flight, like taking a bus.  He was just in town for the day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Southwest does n't have a first class section .
From Oakland to Burbank , the route he was taking , is an hour flight .
It 's like a commuter flight , like taking a bus .
He was just in town for the day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Southwest doesn't have a first class section.
From Oakland to Burbank, the route he was taking, is an hour flight.
It's like a commuter flight, like taking a bus.
He was just in town for the day.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138456</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138724</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266153360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No.  Then we ALL have to pay extra because of your mother in law, and the fat people.  Just have your mother in law buy 2 seats and leave the rest alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
Then we ALL have to pay extra because of your mother in law , and the fat people .
Just have your mother in law buy 2 seats and leave the rest alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
Then we ALL have to pay extra because of your mother in law, and the fat people.
Just have your mother in law buy 2 seats and leave the rest alone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137380</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137324</id>
	<title>Because they're spilling over into my seat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266143880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The seat I, not they, paid for.</p><p>Yes, it's not right to sneer at people for being fat, whether it's their fault or not. It's perfectly all right to sneer at someone for stealing someone else's seat.</p><p>If you need two (or three...) seats <i>buy them</i>. Don't steal from your neighbours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The seat I , not they , paid for.Yes , it 's not right to sneer at people for being fat , whether it 's their fault or not .
It 's perfectly all right to sneer at someone for stealing someone else 's seat.If you need two ( or three... ) seats buy them .
Do n't steal from your neighbours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The seat I, not they, paid for.Yes, it's not right to sneer at people for being fat, whether it's their fault or not.
It's perfectly all right to sneer at someone for stealing someone else's seat.If you need two (or three...) seats buy them.
Don't steal from your neighbours.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136558</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136252</id>
	<title>Welp, that's it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266180240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There goes the last shred of credibility Twitter may have had.  Fatties are now using it to vent rage over how cruel the world is for discriminating against them for being fat.
<br> <br>
Maybe if he directed some of that rage into jogging or not stuffing twinkies into his maw it wouldn't be a problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There goes the last shred of credibility Twitter may have had .
Fatties are now using it to vent rage over how cruel the world is for discriminating against them for being fat .
Maybe if he directed some of that rage into jogging or not stuffing twinkies into his maw it would n't be a problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There goes the last shred of credibility Twitter may have had.
Fatties are now using it to vent rage over how cruel the world is for discriminating against them for being fat.
Maybe if he directed some of that rage into jogging or not stuffing twinkies into his maw it wouldn't be a problem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31143302</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266244860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While many obese people claim metabolic issues, the fact is that clinically diagnosed issues such as yours (which I sympathize with btw) are a minority compared to the number of people who simply eat too much</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While many obese people claim metabolic issues , the fact is that clinically diagnosed issues such as yours ( which I sympathize with btw ) are a minority compared to the number of people who simply eat too much</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While many obese people claim metabolic issues, the fact is that clinically diagnosed issues such as yours (which I sympathize with btw) are a minority compared to the number of people who simply eat too much</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31145074</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266254280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OT, but there are a couple of different brands of thyroid hormone replacements. My wife started taking one of them but it wasn't working well. She switched to another brand and it made an immediate difference to her. Also, we can get hers for $4 a month from the local grocery store's pharmacy because it's on the list of cheap meds. We could get it cheaper yet by asking my insurance company to mail her a 90 day supply.</p><p>Just saying that you might have some options available that you didn't know about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OT , but there are a couple of different brands of thyroid hormone replacements .
My wife started taking one of them but it was n't working well .
She switched to another brand and it made an immediate difference to her .
Also , we can get hers for $ 4 a month from the local grocery store 's pharmacy because it 's on the list of cheap meds .
We could get it cheaper yet by asking my insurance company to mail her a 90 day supply.Just saying that you might have some options available that you did n't know about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OT, but there are a couple of different brands of thyroid hormone replacements.
My wife started taking one of them but it wasn't working well.
She switched to another brand and it made an immediate difference to her.
Also, we can get hers for $4 a month from the local grocery store's pharmacy because it's on the list of cheap meds.
We could get it cheaper yet by asking my insurance company to mail her a 90 day supply.Just saying that you might have some options available that you didn't know about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136330</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266180780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the other hand, being that obese could be considered a disability (by definition, it is).  Do airlines charge people in wheelchairs for two seats?</p><p>Whatever the solution, it needs to be something measurable by the airline and passengers.  Humiliating someone on a flight is unacceptable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , being that obese could be considered a disability ( by definition , it is ) .
Do airlines charge people in wheelchairs for two seats ? Whatever the solution , it needs to be something measurable by the airline and passengers .
Humiliating someone on a flight is unacceptable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand, being that obese could be considered a disability (by definition, it is).
Do airlines charge people in wheelchairs for two seats?Whatever the solution, it needs to be something measurable by the airline and passengers.
Humiliating someone on a flight is unacceptable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136254</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136638</id>
	<title>Good for southwest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266139500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>As much as I am a fan of Kevin Smith and take pride in the fact that he's from my home state of NJ, I have to side with Southwest on this one.  I've had the horrible experience of being seated next to and between very fat people several times and it just isn't fair.  They should have paid for part of my ticket each time.  Flights are cramped uncomfortable experiences as it is, but to have some bloated wheezing corpse pouring over the arm rest into my seat really crosses the line socially.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As much as I am a fan of Kevin Smith and take pride in the fact that he 's from my home state of NJ , I have to side with Southwest on this one .
I 've had the horrible experience of being seated next to and between very fat people several times and it just is n't fair .
They should have paid for part of my ticket each time .
Flights are cramped uncomfortable experiences as it is , but to have some bloated wheezing corpse pouring over the arm rest into my seat really crosses the line socially .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As much as I am a fan of Kevin Smith and take pride in the fact that he's from my home state of NJ, I have to side with Southwest on this one.
I've had the horrible experience of being seated next to and between very fat people several times and it just isn't fair.
They should have paid for part of my ticket each time.
Flights are cramped uncomfortable experiences as it is, but to have some bloated wheezing corpse pouring over the arm rest into my seat really crosses the line socially.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140662</id>
	<title>Re:About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>Tetsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1266168360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What is it with the animosity towards large people?</p></div><p>Seriously.  It's like every post here is just ripping on fat people.  The attitudes people are throwing around here make me sick.  Are ordinary people really so shitty to one another on a regular basis?  What a horrible thought.</p><p>I really do not have all the facts at hand, of what went down.  But what I'm seeing here is that SW boarded Smith and then made him get off again.  That's pretty lame.  If you've boarded somebody they should stay on.  If you boarded him and there wasn't enough room for someone to sit comfortably in the next seat, you shouldn't have seated anyone there.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is it with the animosity towards large people ? Seriously .
It 's like every post here is just ripping on fat people .
The attitudes people are throwing around here make me sick .
Are ordinary people really so shitty to one another on a regular basis ?
What a horrible thought.I really do not have all the facts at hand , of what went down .
But what I 'm seeing here is that SW boarded Smith and then made him get off again .
That 's pretty lame .
If you 've boarded somebody they should stay on .
If you boarded him and there was n't enough room for someone to sit comfortably in the next seat , you should n't have seated anyone there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is it with the animosity towards large people?Seriously.
It's like every post here is just ripping on fat people.
The attitudes people are throwing around here make me sick.
Are ordinary people really so shitty to one another on a regular basis?
What a horrible thought.I really do not have all the facts at hand, of what went down.
But what I'm seeing here is that SW boarded Smith and then made him get off again.
That's pretty lame.
If you've boarded somebody they should stay on.
If you boarded him and there wasn't enough room for someone to sit comfortably in the next seat, you shouldn't have seated anyone there.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136558</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138456</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266151620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>How about this for an answer? Let's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away.</i> </p><p>You already have this option. It's called first class.</p><p>People have chosen this world of crammed airlines, because people will choose the airline that's $1 cheaper than the other guy. Very few people use any other factor as a consideration. They want cheap flights, and that's exactly what they have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about this for an answer ?
Let 's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away .
You already have this option .
It 's called first class.People have chosen this world of crammed airlines , because people will choose the airline that 's $ 1 cheaper than the other guy .
Very few people use any other factor as a consideration .
They want cheap flights , and that 's exactly what they have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> How about this for an answer?
Let's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away.
You already have this option.
It's called first class.People have chosen this world of crammed airlines, because people will choose the airline that's $1 cheaper than the other guy.
Very few people use any other factor as a consideration.
They want cheap flights, and that's exactly what they have.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137380</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140414</id>
	<title>Re:That's what you get</title>
	<author>X'16435934</author>
	<datestamp>1266166380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If someone asks you about this, look them in the eye and shout out  very LOUDLY- 6 or 7 times: <br>
<br>
<b> I  WE  TODD   ED!  </b> <br>
<br> .</htmltext>
<tokenext>If someone asks you about this , look them in the eye and shout out very LOUDLY- 6 or 7 times : I WE TODD ED !
.</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If someone asks you about this, look them in the eye and shout out  very LOUDLY- 6 or 7 times: 

 I  WE  TODD   ED!
.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138112</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138032</id>
	<title>Re:Porkers should pay.</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1266148740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Anyone who has ever flown in a small plane knows that you have to balance the plane out </i></p><p>Apples and oranges. Considering your typical 737 can weigh up to 150,000 lbs at take-off, it's not the 300 lb passenger (under 0.1\% of the weight if you allowed for a 150 lb passenger originally anyway) that's going to alter the plane's center of gravity so much as to cause a dangerous condition... we're not talking about a Cessna here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who has ever flown in a small plane knows that you have to balance the plane out Apples and oranges .
Considering your typical 737 can weigh up to 150,000 lbs at take-off , it 's not the 300 lb passenger ( under 0.1 \ % of the weight if you allowed for a 150 lb passenger originally anyway ) that 's going to alter the plane 's center of gravity so much as to cause a dangerous condition... we 're not talking about a Cessna here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who has ever flown in a small plane knows that you have to balance the plane out Apples and oranges.
Considering your typical 737 can weigh up to 150,000 lbs at take-off, it's not the 300 lb passenger (under 0.1\% of the weight if you allowed for a 150 lb passenger originally anyway) that's going to alter the plane's center of gravity so much as to cause a dangerous condition... we're not talking about a Cessna here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137098</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138564</id>
	<title>Re:Yuh Huh</title>
	<author>Pretzalzz</author>
	<datestamp>1266152220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, this is Southwest.  There is no assigned seating.  Since standbys would presumably board last, all that would likely be left would be middle seats which for obvious reasons are not next to each other unless they can get people to move.  Usually you see people bribing people with liquor to get seats next to each other when they board late.  As a corollary to this, boarding early isn't that much of an advantage as you'd have less control over who sits next to you unless you are travelling in a big enough group.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , this is Southwest .
There is no assigned seating .
Since standbys would presumably board last , all that would likely be left would be middle seats which for obvious reasons are not next to each other unless they can get people to move .
Usually you see people bribing people with liquor to get seats next to each other when they board late .
As a corollary to this , boarding early is n't that much of an advantage as you 'd have less control over who sits next to you unless you are travelling in a big enough group .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, this is Southwest.
There is no assigned seating.
Since standbys would presumably board last, all that would likely be left would be middle seats which for obvious reasons are not next to each other unless they can get people to move.
Usually you see people bribing people with liquor to get seats next to each other when they board late.
As a corollary to this, boarding early isn't that much of an advantage as you'd have less control over who sits next to you unless you are travelling in a big enough group.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137846</id>
	<title>Don't neglect your real-world Karma!</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1266147480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Many of the Slashdotters mocking fat people are young men with bad eating habits. Give them a few years and they'll be laughing out of the other side of their jowls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many of the Slashdotters mocking fat people are young men with bad eating habits .
Give them a few years and they 'll be laughing out of the other side of their jowls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many of the Slashdotters mocking fat people are young men with bad eating habits.
Give them a few years and they'll be laughing out of the other side of their jowls.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31143006</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>drsquare</author>
	<datestamp>1266241560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Airlines have overcrammed more seats into each plane than the original designers would have believed possible. When people complain, they respond with "You're freakishly tall," or "You're mbidly obese," when the real answer is "The airlines are so greedy they're cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle."</p></div></blockquote><p>It's not that the airlines are greedy, they're just giving the customers what they want: tickets that are as cheap as possible, which can only be achieved by packing them in like sardines.</p><blockquote><div><p>How about this for an answer? Let's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away.</p></div></blockquote><p>The problem will go away as airlines go out of business when passengers won't pay the newly increased prices.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Airlines have overcrammed more seats into each plane than the original designers would have believed possible .
When people complain , they respond with " You 're freakishly tall , " or " You 're mbidly obese , " when the real answer is " The airlines are so greedy they 're cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle .
" It 's not that the airlines are greedy , they 're just giving the customers what they want : tickets that are as cheap as possible , which can only be achieved by packing them in like sardines.How about this for an answer ?
Let 's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away.The problem will go away as airlines go out of business when passengers wo n't pay the newly increased prices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Airlines have overcrammed more seats into each plane than the original designers would have believed possible.
When people complain, they respond with "You're freakishly tall," or "You're mbidly obese," when the real answer is "The airlines are so greedy they're cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle.
"It's not that the airlines are greedy, they're just giving the customers what they want: tickets that are as cheap as possible, which can only be achieved by packing them in like sardines.How about this for an answer?
Let's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away.The problem will go away as airlines go out of business when passengers won't pay the newly increased prices.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137380</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136558</id>
	<title>About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>neumayr</author>
	<datestamp>1266139140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What is it with the animosity towards large people?<br>
Sure, most of the time they themselves are to blame for the state they're in. So what? It's their choice, and they shouldn't have to endure getting frowned upon, let alone being openly insulted.<br>
I mean, c'mon, when the seats in an airliner are too small for the person, it's the person's fault? How so? Because he's larger than most others? A quick google search says that the average person in the US weighs 7 kg more than "ideal", so the airlines should of course have to adjust their seats accordingly. They're way too small anyway.<br>
IMO, the airline is to blame when a large person inconveniences someone else due to the size of the seats. Don't ignore their failing just because big people are such easy targets =)</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is it with the animosity towards large people ?
Sure , most of the time they themselves are to blame for the state they 're in .
So what ?
It 's their choice , and they should n't have to endure getting frowned upon , let alone being openly insulted .
I mean , c'mon , when the seats in an airliner are too small for the person , it 's the person 's fault ?
How so ?
Because he 's larger than most others ?
A quick google search says that the average person in the US weighs 7 kg more than " ideal " , so the airlines should of course have to adjust their seats accordingly .
They 're way too small anyway .
IMO , the airline is to blame when a large person inconveniences someone else due to the size of the seats .
Do n't ignore their failing just because big people are such easy targets = )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is it with the animosity towards large people?
Sure, most of the time they themselves are to blame for the state they're in.
So what?
It's their choice, and they shouldn't have to endure getting frowned upon, let alone being openly insulted.
I mean, c'mon, when the seats in an airliner are too small for the person, it's the person's fault?
How so?
Because he's larger than most others?
A quick google search says that the average person in the US weighs 7 kg more than "ideal", so the airlines should of course have to adjust their seats accordingly.
They're way too small anyway.
IMO, the airline is to blame when a large person inconveniences someone else due to the size of the seats.
Don't ignore their failing just because big people are such easy targets =)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137006</id>
	<title>Not due to the size of his body..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266141960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The size of his head.  Other passengers would have obviously been harmed by the bulkinesses of his inflated ego trap if there were any turbulence.  I commend the captain for keeping those surrounding him safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The size of his head .
Other passengers would have obviously been harmed by the bulkinesses of his inflated ego trap if there were any turbulence .
I commend the captain for keeping those surrounding him safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The size of his head.
Other passengers would have obviously been harmed by the bulkinesses of his inflated ego trap if there were any turbulence.
I commend the captain for keeping those surrounding him safe.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140070</id>
	<title>What about the airlines responsibility?</title>
	<author>Silver Surfer 1</author>
	<datestamp>1266163080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cramming as many people into an airplane as they can and everyone blames people larger than a supermodel for cramped seating?<br>I remember the good old days when I had leg room in coach and my shoulders were not wider than the seat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cramming as many people into an airplane as they can and everyone blames people larger than a supermodel for cramped seating ? I remember the good old days when I had leg room in coach and my shoulders were not wider than the seat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cramming as many people into an airplane as they can and everyone blames people larger than a supermodel for cramped seating?I remember the good old days when I had leg room in coach and my shoulders were not wider than the seat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140424</id>
	<title>Well...</title>
	<author>pennyloafer</author>
	<datestamp>1266166500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I did like his indie type movies in the past.

Anyway, he has a new Bruce Willis movie due in theaters in a couple weeks.  It's odd that his Twitter page has it as a background.

He did take a big hit in pay to keep it R-rated!  Yeah!  [rollseyes]

Good luck Kevin, you are getting pretty unhealthy.  I hope you will be able to lose 200lb. in the near future.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did like his indie type movies in the past .
Anyway , he has a new Bruce Willis movie due in theaters in a couple weeks .
It 's odd that his Twitter page has it as a background .
He did take a big hit in pay to keep it R-rated !
Yeah ! [ rollseyes ] Good luck Kevin , you are getting pretty unhealthy .
I hope you will be able to lose 200lb .
in the near future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did like his indie type movies in the past.
Anyway, he has a new Bruce Willis movie due in theaters in a couple weeks.
It's odd that his Twitter page has it as a background.
He did take a big hit in pay to keep it R-rated!
Yeah!  [rollseyes]

Good luck Kevin, you are getting pretty unhealthy.
I hope you will be able to lose 200lb.
in the near future.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137208</id>
	<title>I love Kevin Smith, but after breaking a toilet...</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1266143100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and now being kicked off a plane, what will take to convince that tubby bastard that it's time to slim down? A heart attack? People of his weight don't get a "warning" coronary event. The first one is the last one, and that's it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and now being kicked off a plane , what will take to convince that tubby bastard that it 's time to slim down ?
A heart attack ?
People of his weight do n't get a " warning " coronary event .
The first one is the last one , and that 's it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and now being kicked off a plane, what will take to convince that tubby bastard that it's time to slim down?
A heart attack?
People of his weight don't get a "warning" coronary event.
The first one is the last one, and that's it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141654</id>
	<title>Re:Southwest Airlines "Customer of Size" Q&amp;A</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266266400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Coincidentally, tonight I had my first experience sitting next to someone where I realized that they were propping up the armrest for much of the flight. Thing is, he was just overall a hulking guy -- probably 6'7", 280 pounds. Didn't even have belly on him, or a trunk like Andre the Giant or other hulking guys had. Just thick, not flabby. Funny enough, I'm 6'4"-6'5" and the guy on the other side of me was well into 6+ foot 200++ lbs. territory. Thank god it was an exit row, though everyone in the other exit rows were normal sized and it would have been better if us three were spread out. The hulking guy spent the flight hunched forward almost the entire time, and I felt bad for him because with my large frame I can't help but have my elbows come out sometimes (despite now being sub-200 lbs.) and it sometimes took me a few minutes to realize I was essentially ramming the armrest into him.</p><p>One of the things I want to bring up with this is that being rarely tall or wide (you can be wide and still be thin or average thickness) is a condition that causes extreme discomfort on flights, very rarely receives accommodation anymore, and is not something that its sufferers can do anything about short of radical surgery. In the days when there were <i>people</i> checked you in to a flight, they usually did their best to find someone like me one of the seats with more legroom. Now, though, there's nothing but a computer to decide who gets more legroom, and tall people generally end up in a fair amount of pain. It was even worse when I had an average looking build, compared with now where I'm both skinny and the strongest I've ever been.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Coincidentally , tonight I had my first experience sitting next to someone where I realized that they were propping up the armrest for much of the flight .
Thing is , he was just overall a hulking guy -- probably 6'7 " , 280 pounds .
Did n't even have belly on him , or a trunk like Andre the Giant or other hulking guys had .
Just thick , not flabby .
Funny enough , I 'm 6'4 " -6'5 " and the guy on the other side of me was well into 6 + foot 200 + + lbs .
territory. Thank god it was an exit row , though everyone in the other exit rows were normal sized and it would have been better if us three were spread out .
The hulking guy spent the flight hunched forward almost the entire time , and I felt bad for him because with my large frame I ca n't help but have my elbows come out sometimes ( despite now being sub-200 lbs .
) and it sometimes took me a few minutes to realize I was essentially ramming the armrest into him.One of the things I want to bring up with this is that being rarely tall or wide ( you can be wide and still be thin or average thickness ) is a condition that causes extreme discomfort on flights , very rarely receives accommodation anymore , and is not something that its sufferers can do anything about short of radical surgery .
In the days when there were people checked you in to a flight , they usually did their best to find someone like me one of the seats with more legroom .
Now , though , there 's nothing but a computer to decide who gets more legroom , and tall people generally end up in a fair amount of pain .
It was even worse when I had an average looking build , compared with now where I 'm both skinny and the strongest I 've ever been .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coincidentally, tonight I had my first experience sitting next to someone where I realized that they were propping up the armrest for much of the flight.
Thing is, he was just overall a hulking guy -- probably 6'7", 280 pounds.
Didn't even have belly on him, or a trunk like Andre the Giant or other hulking guys had.
Just thick, not flabby.
Funny enough, I'm 6'4"-6'5" and the guy on the other side of me was well into 6+ foot 200++ lbs.
territory. Thank god it was an exit row, though everyone in the other exit rows were normal sized and it would have been better if us three were spread out.
The hulking guy spent the flight hunched forward almost the entire time, and I felt bad for him because with my large frame I can't help but have my elbows come out sometimes (despite now being sub-200 lbs.
) and it sometimes took me a few minutes to realize I was essentially ramming the armrest into him.One of the things I want to bring up with this is that being rarely tall or wide (you can be wide and still be thin or average thickness) is a condition that causes extreme discomfort on flights, very rarely receives accommodation anymore, and is not something that its sufferers can do anything about short of radical surgery.
In the days when there were people checked you in to a flight, they usually did their best to find someone like me one of the seats with more legroom.
Now, though, there's nothing but a computer to decide who gets more legroom, and tall people generally end up in a fair amount of pain.
It was even worse when I had an average looking build, compared with now where I'm both skinny and the strongest I've ever been.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136478</id>
	<title>Southwest has a reputation for this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266138540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A&amp;E had a reality show called Airline that featured Southwest from 2004-2005 that had several episodes where people were forced to buy a second seat if someone judged them "too fat".  So this is a policy that Southwest has had for a long time, and isn't just some crazy pilot or booking agent just came up with but is rather something that comes from the top down.</p><p>It always seemed a bit embarrassing for everyone involved to me.  I don't recall much detail from 5 years ago, but I do remember thinking some of the people judged "too fat" looked large, but not so large to affect the passenger next to them.  It wasn't a very flattering series for Southwest, as a lot of the stories concentrated on bad aspects of flying.  (Some of which were airline employees acting like control freaks)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A&amp;E had a reality show called Airline that featured Southwest from 2004-2005 that had several episodes where people were forced to buy a second seat if someone judged them " too fat " .
So this is a policy that Southwest has had for a long time , and is n't just some crazy pilot or booking agent just came up with but is rather something that comes from the top down.It always seemed a bit embarrassing for everyone involved to me .
I do n't recall much detail from 5 years ago , but I do remember thinking some of the people judged " too fat " looked large , but not so large to affect the passenger next to them .
It was n't a very flattering series for Southwest , as a lot of the stories concentrated on bad aspects of flying .
( Some of which were airline employees acting like control freaks )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A&amp;E had a reality show called Airline that featured Southwest from 2004-2005 that had several episodes where people were forced to buy a second seat if someone judged them "too fat".
So this is a policy that Southwest has had for a long time, and isn't just some crazy pilot or booking agent just came up with but is rather something that comes from the top down.It always seemed a bit embarrassing for everyone involved to me.
I don't recall much detail from 5 years ago, but I do remember thinking some of the people judged "too fat" looked large, but not so large to affect the passenger next to them.
It wasn't a very flattering series for Southwest, as a lot of the stories concentrated on bad aspects of flying.
(Some of which were airline employees acting like control freaks)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138212</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>sp3d2orbit</author>
	<datestamp>1266150060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly, I've been flying for 25 years and definitely noticed as the seats in front of me got closer and closer. For me it isn't a width issue. The rows of seats are too close to one another. I'm only 6'1", but suffer horrible crushing pain in my knees whenever the person in front of me reclines.</p><p>Airlines aren't providing adequate space for average Americans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly , I 've been flying for 25 years and definitely noticed as the seats in front of me got closer and closer .
For me it is n't a width issue .
The rows of seats are too close to one another .
I 'm only 6'1 " , but suffer horrible crushing pain in my knees whenever the person in front of me reclines.Airlines are n't providing adequate space for average Americans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly, I've been flying for 25 years and definitely noticed as the seats in front of me got closer and closer.
For me it isn't a width issue.
The rows of seats are too close to one another.
I'm only 6'1", but suffer horrible crushing pain in my knees whenever the person in front of me reclines.Airlines aren't providing adequate space for average Americans.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137698</id>
	<title>Selfish reasoning</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1266146400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope people like Kevin manage to shame (or regulate) airlines into minimum seat dimensions. I'm not fat and I'm pretty short. So I have no problems fitting my butt or my legs into coach. But what gets me is the shoulder room. I need both armrests and then I'm still hanging one arm out into the aisle. If they spread the seats out enough for Smith's ass, I might be able to stop sitting sideways.
</p><p>Airbus isn't as bad as Boeing. Boeing must have a bunch of anorexic girls as ergonomics models.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope people like Kevin manage to shame ( or regulate ) airlines into minimum seat dimensions .
I 'm not fat and I 'm pretty short .
So I have no problems fitting my butt or my legs into coach .
But what gets me is the shoulder room .
I need both armrests and then I 'm still hanging one arm out into the aisle .
If they spread the seats out enough for Smith 's ass , I might be able to stop sitting sideways .
Airbus is n't as bad as Boeing .
Boeing must have a bunch of anorexic girls as ergonomics models .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope people like Kevin manage to shame (or regulate) airlines into minimum seat dimensions.
I'm not fat and I'm pretty short.
So I have no problems fitting my butt or my legs into coach.
But what gets me is the shoulder room.
I need both armrests and then I'm still hanging one arm out into the aisle.
If they spread the seats out enough for Smith's ass, I might be able to stop sitting sideways.
Airbus isn't as bad as Boeing.
Boeing must have a bunch of anorexic girls as ergonomics models.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136744</id>
	<title>Re:About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>mxh83</author>
	<datestamp>1266140100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sure, most of the time they themselves are to blame for the state they're in. So what? It's their choice, and they shouldn't have to endure getting frowned upon, let alone being openly insulted.</p></div><p>Talk about contradicting yourself.  If you weren't that fat, you could probably think better.  So what's next?  Congratulating fat people?  Fat models?  The day when "fat" becomes a racist word?  Give me a break.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , most of the time they themselves are to blame for the state they 're in .
So what ?
It 's their choice , and they should n't have to endure getting frowned upon , let alone being openly insulted.Talk about contradicting yourself .
If you were n't that fat , you could probably think better .
So what 's next ?
Congratulating fat people ?
Fat models ?
The day when " fat " becomes a racist word ?
Give me a break .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, most of the time they themselves are to blame for the state they're in.
So what?
It's their choice, and they shouldn't have to endure getting frowned upon, let alone being openly insulted.Talk about contradicting yourself.
If you weren't that fat, you could probably think better.
So what's next?
Congratulating fat people?
Fat models?
The day when "fat" becomes a racist word?
Give me a break.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31146338</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266260520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're totally full of...  Wait.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're totally full of... Wait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're totally full of...  Wait.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137626</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136912</id>
	<title>Avoiding the landwhale lottery</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266141300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Way to go SW.<br>As someone that often has to sit next to one of these disgusting landwhales, I would be HAPPY to pay extra for the comfort knowing that I would NOT end up having to sit next to one ever again.</p><p>Like you pay extra for extra luggage, allow me to pay extra to avoid the landwhale lottery.<br>I.e. special tickets that are guaranteed to NOT be seated next to one of these disgusting circus freaks.</p><p>These tickets could even come with a picture of a crossed-out whale. As soon as one of the fatties approach the seat next to you, you show the freak your no-landwhale ticket and that fatso can not sit next to you.</p><p>Those fat fscks should not fly to start with. They should walk to their destination to burn off some of that fat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Way to go SW.As someone that often has to sit next to one of these disgusting landwhales , I would be HAPPY to pay extra for the comfort knowing that I would NOT end up having to sit next to one ever again.Like you pay extra for extra luggage , allow me to pay extra to avoid the landwhale lottery.I.e .
special tickets that are guaranteed to NOT be seated next to one of these disgusting circus freaks.These tickets could even come with a picture of a crossed-out whale .
As soon as one of the fatties approach the seat next to you , you show the freak your no-landwhale ticket and that fatso can not sit next to you.Those fat fscks should not fly to start with .
They should walk to their destination to burn off some of that fat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Way to go SW.As someone that often has to sit next to one of these disgusting landwhales, I would be HAPPY to pay extra for the comfort knowing that I would NOT end up having to sit next to one ever again.Like you pay extra for extra luggage, allow me to pay extra to avoid the landwhale lottery.I.e.
special tickets that are guaranteed to NOT be seated next to one of these disgusting circus freaks.These tickets could even come with a picture of a crossed-out whale.
As soon as one of the fatties approach the seat next to you, you show the freak your no-landwhale ticket and that fatso can not sit next to you.Those fat fscks should not fly to start with.
They should walk to their destination to burn off some of that fat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31157334</id>
	<title>Re:Because they're spilling over into my seat</title>
	<author>alexo</author>
	<datestamp>1266345900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If you need two (or three...) seats buy them. Don't steal from your neighbours.</p></div></blockquote><p>Infringing seatingrights is not "stealing".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you need two ( or three... ) seats buy them .
Do n't steal from your neighbours.Infringing seatingrights is not " stealing " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you need two (or three...) seats buy them.
Don't steal from your neighbours.Infringing seatingrights is not "stealing".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137324</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137388</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1266144180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not everyone in a wheelchair is fat and requires two chairs. If a person needed to fly and had to lie down then they would probably charge extra for that (if they could facilitate that) just as if you consider being obese a disability, then they get charged for the inconvenience to others. Just because you handicap doesn't mean you get a free ride through life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not everyone in a wheelchair is fat and requires two chairs .
If a person needed to fly and had to lie down then they would probably charge extra for that ( if they could facilitate that ) just as if you consider being obese a disability , then they get charged for the inconvenience to others .
Just because you handicap does n't mean you get a free ride through life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not everyone in a wheelchair is fat and requires two chairs.
If a person needed to fly and had to lie down then they would probably charge extra for that (if they could facilitate that) just as if you consider being obese a disability, then they get charged for the inconvenience to others.
Just because you handicap doesn't mean you get a free ride through life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140032</id>
	<title>Re:Because they're spilling over into my seat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266162720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"If you need two (or three...) seats buy them. Don't steal from your neighbours."</p><p>It's not stealing.  The neighbours still have their seat. It's more like... sharing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" If you need two ( or three... ) seats buy them .
Do n't steal from your neighbours .
" It 's not stealing .
The neighbours still have their seat .
It 's more like... sharing ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If you need two (or three...) seats buy them.
Don't steal from your neighbours.
"It's not stealing.
The neighbours still have their seat.
It's more like... sharing ;-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137324</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141076</id>
	<title>YOUR Fat, YOUR Problem.....</title>
	<author>IHC Navistar</author>
	<datestamp>1266173280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe fat people should be channeling their frustration into something useful.....Like losing weight.</p><p>Honestly, ranting about it on your blog or to a reporter isn't productive. Getting off your fat ass and walking around the block IS.</p><p>Seriously, getting pissed off about your situation isn't going to accomplish anything, except telling people that you would rather bitch, whine, and complain about all the problems that being obese is causing you rather than actually working to better your health by exercising and eating healthy.</p><p>YOUR fat is YOUR problem. Why should everybody else have to change to accommodate your obesity instead of YOU doing something to change your obesity?</p><p>Exercise and eat healthy. Your heart, and the rest of us, will thank you for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe fat people should be channeling their frustration into something useful.....Like losing weight.Honestly , ranting about it on your blog or to a reporter is n't productive .
Getting off your fat ass and walking around the block IS.Seriously , getting pissed off about your situation is n't going to accomplish anything , except telling people that you would rather bitch , whine , and complain about all the problems that being obese is causing you rather than actually working to better your health by exercising and eating healthy.YOUR fat is YOUR problem .
Why should everybody else have to change to accommodate your obesity instead of YOU doing something to change your obesity ? Exercise and eat healthy .
Your heart , and the rest of us , will thank you for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe fat people should be channeling their frustration into something useful.....Like losing weight.Honestly, ranting about it on your blog or to a reporter isn't productive.
Getting off your fat ass and walking around the block IS.Seriously, getting pissed off about your situation isn't going to accomplish anything, except telling people that you would rather bitch, whine, and complain about all the problems that being obese is causing you rather than actually working to better your health by exercising and eating healthy.YOUR fat is YOUR problem.
Why should everybody else have to change to accommodate your obesity instead of YOU doing something to change your obesity?Exercise and eat healthy.
Your heart, and the rest of us, will thank you for it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137120</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266142680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kevin has gotten ridiculously fat in recent years. Funny that the guy really has turned into a "Lunchbox" or "Fat F*ck".</p><p>Suck it up Kevin and get on a diet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kevin has gotten ridiculously fat in recent years .
Funny that the guy really has turned into a " Lunchbox " or " Fat F * ck " .Suck it up Kevin and get on a diet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kevin has gotten ridiculously fat in recent years.
Funny that the guy really has turned into a "Lunchbox" or "Fat F*ck".Suck it up Kevin and get on a diet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141952</id>
	<title>Re:Southwest Airlines "Customer of Size" Q&amp;A</title>
	<author>boxwood</author>
	<datestamp>1266226980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe the customer next to him did in fact complain. But his twitter isn't followed by as many people as Smith's so nobody wrote an article about it.</p><p>The people at the gate made a judgement call, the captain made a different call. The captain has final say, so he had to get off the plane.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe the customer next to him did in fact complain .
But his twitter is n't followed by as many people as Smith 's so nobody wrote an article about it.The people at the gate made a judgement call , the captain made a different call .
The captain has final say , so he had to get off the plane .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe the customer next to him did in fact complain.
But his twitter isn't followed by as many people as Smith's so nobody wrote an article about it.The people at the gate made a judgement call, the captain made a different call.
The captain has final say, so he had to get off the plane.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138268</id>
	<title>You know those...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266150360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>places where you put your bag to check if its too big for carry on. Just have another one for fat people. If you cant fit in then buy extra seats.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>places where you put your bag to check if its too big for carry on .
Just have another one for fat people .
If you cant fit in then buy extra seats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>places where you put your bag to check if its too big for carry on.
Just have another one for fat people.
If you cant fit in then buy extra seats.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136706</id>
	<title>The Better Question??</title>
	<author>markass530</author>
	<datestamp>1266139920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why is he not flying first class on a different airline?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is he not flying first class on a different airline ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is he not flying first class on a different airline?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136526</id>
	<title>Yuh Huh</title>
	<author>Greyfox</author>
	<datestamp>1266138900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>As someone who's flown several times with some fat fuck overlapping into the seat <b>I</b> paid for, I really wish they'd do that more often.
<p>
If you take up two seats, pay for two seats. And not one here and one 4 aisles back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who 's flown several times with some fat fuck overlapping into the seat I paid for , I really wish they 'd do that more often .
If you take up two seats , pay for two seats .
And not one here and one 4 aisles back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who's flown several times with some fat fuck overlapping into the seat I paid for, I really wish they'd do that more often.
If you take up two seats, pay for two seats.
And not one here and one 4 aisles back.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140406</id>
	<title>Biggest Loser</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266166260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whenever a big fatty complains about genetics, I always think of the Biggest Loser.</p><p>They <b>all</b> manage to lose weight. They lose weight in proportion to the exercise they do.</p><p>Sure they find it challenging, that's why it's a <i>work</i>out. But they all lose weight, regardless of their genes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whenever a big fatty complains about genetics , I always think of the Biggest Loser.They all manage to lose weight .
They lose weight in proportion to the exercise they do.Sure they find it challenging , that 's why it 's a workout .
But they all lose weight , regardless of their genes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whenever a big fatty complains about genetics, I always think of the Biggest Loser.They all manage to lose weight.
They lose weight in proportion to the exercise they do.Sure they find it challenging, that's why it's a workout.
But they all lose weight, regardless of their genes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137130</id>
	<title>Too fat for first?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266142740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since none of you have actually mentioned this. I don't believe that Mr Smith would be travelling in coach or business class. I am sure that he has enough money to travel first class. Now not being rich myself I can't say for sure that they get a seat that doesn't touch anybody else. Maybe the adverts on TV are lying and that first class is much the same a coach. Somehow I doubt it though. Hell maybe Mr Smith is tight and careful with his money and does travel coach. What do I know.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since none of you have actually mentioned this .
I do n't believe that Mr Smith would be travelling in coach or business class .
I am sure that he has enough money to travel first class .
Now not being rich myself I ca n't say for sure that they get a seat that does n't touch anybody else .
Maybe the adverts on TV are lying and that first class is much the same a coach .
Somehow I doubt it though .
Hell maybe Mr Smith is tight and careful with his money and does travel coach .
What do I know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since none of you have actually mentioned this.
I don't believe that Mr Smith would be travelling in coach or business class.
I am sure that he has enough money to travel first class.
Now not being rich myself I can't say for sure that they get a seat that doesn't touch anybody else.
Maybe the adverts on TV are lying and that first class is much the same a coach.
Somehow I doubt it though.
Hell maybe Mr Smith is tight and careful with his money and does travel coach.
What do I know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138332</id>
	<title>Re:About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266150840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Instead of telling little timmy to not eat that fifth cheeseburger we just let him and then tell everyone to accept him for what he is and make special accomodations for him.</p></div><p>The situation we're in right now is more like encouraging Timmy to eat that fifth cheeseburger (hi, advertising!), and then ridiculing him for being such a fat slob (hi, peers, media-that-says-skinny-is-the-only-hot,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...)...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of telling little timmy to not eat that fifth cheeseburger we just let him and then tell everyone to accept him for what he is and make special accomodations for him.The situation we 're in right now is more like encouraging Timmy to eat that fifth cheeseburger ( hi , advertising !
) , and then ridiculing him for being such a fat slob ( hi , peers , media-that-says-skinny-is-the-only-hot , ... ) .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead of telling little timmy to not eat that fifth cheeseburger we just let him and then tell everyone to accept him for what he is and make special accomodations for him.The situation we're in right now is more like encouraging Timmy to eat that fifth cheeseburger (hi, advertising!
), and then ridiculing him for being such a fat slob (hi, peers, media-that-says-skinny-is-the-only-hot, ...)...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31139348</id>
	<title>Re:About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1266157620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"It's their choice" so I blame them for their CHOICE.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It 's their choice " so I blame them for their CHOICE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It's their choice" so I blame them for their CHOICE.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136558</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137154</id>
	<title>Oh well...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266142800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meh, lose weight you fat prick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh , lose weight you fat prick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh, lose weight you fat prick.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137240</id>
	<title>ok</title>
	<author>dcam</author>
	<datestamp>1266143280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So maybe he should lose some weight rather than complaining about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So maybe he should lose some weight rather than complaining about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So maybe he should lose some weight rather than complaining about it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140912</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>nanospook</author>
	<datestamp>1266171300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I sympathize with your situation, I think the rule of thumb is that people, in general, are fat for more generic reasons. Really stupid reasons too..

Lots of choices are involved. On the surface, do you eat reasonable portions and exercise? However, under the surface, there are other choices being made. What kind of foods do you eat, and how do impact your ability to eat properly? For example, eating lots of processed fast foods can not only be a bad diet, but will result in cravings to eat more and quickly. The result is you eat a lot of sugar and high calories food and also eat foods that burn badly (very quickly). On top of that, people drink high sugar drinks such as sodas. Even though we kinda know the problem, we keep eating those same foods..

These same foods burn badly and result in bad exercise habits. You are heavy, you have no consistent energy, tired, maybe running border line or downright high blood sugar as your metabolism struggles to deal with the crap we eat.

So, there are lots of choices to make but the hardest choice is to actually do something about it, especially when you might have been doing things wrong for decades..

Being a diabetic myself for about 15-20 years, I realized that food is like a drug habit, the back of your subbrain demainds it and wants it now, and the more sugar, carbs, and taste you can get, the better. NOW!

Any luck on the stem cell horizon for replacing your thyroid?</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I sympathize with your situation , I think the rule of thumb is that people , in general , are fat for more generic reasons .
Really stupid reasons too. . Lots of choices are involved .
On the surface , do you eat reasonable portions and exercise ?
However , under the surface , there are other choices being made .
What kind of foods do you eat , and how do impact your ability to eat properly ?
For example , eating lots of processed fast foods can not only be a bad diet , but will result in cravings to eat more and quickly .
The result is you eat a lot of sugar and high calories food and also eat foods that burn badly ( very quickly ) .
On top of that , people drink high sugar drinks such as sodas .
Even though we kinda know the problem , we keep eating those same foods. . These same foods burn badly and result in bad exercise habits .
You are heavy , you have no consistent energy , tired , maybe running border line or downright high blood sugar as your metabolism struggles to deal with the crap we eat .
So , there are lots of choices to make but the hardest choice is to actually do something about it , especially when you might have been doing things wrong for decades. . Being a diabetic myself for about 15-20 years , I realized that food is like a drug habit , the back of your subbrain demainds it and wants it now , and the more sugar , carbs , and taste you can get , the better .
NOW ! Any luck on the stem cell horizon for replacing your thyroid ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I sympathize with your situation, I think the rule of thumb is that people, in general, are fat for more generic reasons.
Really stupid reasons too..

Lots of choices are involved.
On the surface, do you eat reasonable portions and exercise?
However, under the surface, there are other choices being made.
What kind of foods do you eat, and how do impact your ability to eat properly?
For example, eating lots of processed fast foods can not only be a bad diet, but will result in cravings to eat more and quickly.
The result is you eat a lot of sugar and high calories food and also eat foods that burn badly (very quickly).
On top of that, people drink high sugar drinks such as sodas.
Even though we kinda know the problem, we keep eating those same foods..

These same foods burn badly and result in bad exercise habits.
You are heavy, you have no consistent energy, tired, maybe running border line or downright high blood sugar as your metabolism struggles to deal with the crap we eat.
So, there are lots of choices to make but the hardest choice is to actually do something about it, especially when you might have been doing things wrong for decades..

Being a diabetic myself for about 15-20 years, I realized that food is like a drug habit, the back of your subbrain demainds it and wants it now, and the more sugar, carbs, and taste you can get, the better.
NOW!

Any luck on the stem cell horizon for replacing your thyroid?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31148586</id>
	<title>Re:Selfish reasoning</title>
	<author>Beezlebub33</author>
	<datestamp>1266228420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't blame Boeing.  Boeing doesn't determine where the seats go.  Take a look at the bottom of the chairs.  There's a railing that the seats are attached to, and so the seats can be swapped out and moved forward and back.  The decision of what seats to use, and where to put them is determined by the airline, not the manufacturer of the aircraft.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't blame Boeing .
Boeing does n't determine where the seats go .
Take a look at the bottom of the chairs .
There 's a railing that the seats are attached to , and so the seats can be swapped out and moved forward and back .
The decision of what seats to use , and where to put them is determined by the airline , not the manufacturer of the aircraft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't blame Boeing.
Boeing doesn't determine where the seats go.
Take a look at the bottom of the chairs.
There's a railing that the seats are attached to, and so the seats can be swapped out and moved forward and back.
The decision of what seats to use, and where to put them is determined by the airline, not the manufacturer of the aircraft.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138112</id>
	<title>Re:That's what you get</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266149460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Knowledge doesn't cure stupidity? Who knew?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Knowledge does n't cure stupidity ?
Who knew ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Knowledge doesn't cure stupidity?
Who knew?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137220</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31144044</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>gatkinso</author>
	<datestamp>1266249540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree that around 0.1\% of the time obesity is not reversible by choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree that around 0.1 \ % of the time obesity is not reversible by choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree that around 0.1\% of the time obesity is not reversible by choice.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31146434</id>
	<title>I don't know, man</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266261000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>That fucker is huge!  I guess someone had to replace Dom.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That fucker is huge !
I guess someone had to replace Dom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That fucker is huge!
I guess someone had to replace Dom.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136238</id>
	<title>That's what you get</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266180120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>for being a fat ugly bastard</htmltext>
<tokenext>for being a fat ugly bastard</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for being a fat ugly bastard</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138542</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>vadim\_t</author>
	<datestamp>1266152100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two things.</p><p>First, it can't be all genetic. People living in the US aren't native americans for the most part, they came for a large part from Europe, not so long ago. They shouldn't have wildly different genetics, yet you're going to find a lot more fat people in the US than in Europe.</p><p>What the US has that is considerably different is the food and the layout of the cities. When I came to the US I was quite amazed at the rather insane serving sizes. An US "normal" sized ice cream is something I simply couldn't finish eating. The idea of a restaurant serving enough food that you'd ask for a box to take it home was completely alien to me before visiting the US. Getting the drinks refilled constantly was another new thing.</p><p>Also, in Europe you can, and usually do walk to places. Even if you have a car, there is a small grocery store somewhere nearby you can walk to when you find you don't have enough milk, and not far enough to actually bother getting into the car. In the parts of the US I've been to, however, it seems impossible to do that as the streets aren't made for it.</p><p>Second, no matter what kind of metabolism you have, you can't violate the conservation of energy. If you use enough energy, or eat less than you consume, you will HAVE to get slimmer, eventually. Your body can't create additional mass out of nowhere, or produce energy to keep you going out of nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two things.First , it ca n't be all genetic .
People living in the US are n't native americans for the most part , they came for a large part from Europe , not so long ago .
They should n't have wildly different genetics , yet you 're going to find a lot more fat people in the US than in Europe.What the US has that is considerably different is the food and the layout of the cities .
When I came to the US I was quite amazed at the rather insane serving sizes .
An US " normal " sized ice cream is something I simply could n't finish eating .
The idea of a restaurant serving enough food that you 'd ask for a box to take it home was completely alien to me before visiting the US .
Getting the drinks refilled constantly was another new thing.Also , in Europe you can , and usually do walk to places .
Even if you have a car , there is a small grocery store somewhere nearby you can walk to when you find you do n't have enough milk , and not far enough to actually bother getting into the car .
In the parts of the US I 've been to , however , it seems impossible to do that as the streets are n't made for it.Second , no matter what kind of metabolism you have , you ca n't violate the conservation of energy .
If you use enough energy , or eat less than you consume , you will HAVE to get slimmer , eventually .
Your body ca n't create additional mass out of nowhere , or produce energy to keep you going out of nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two things.First, it can't be all genetic.
People living in the US aren't native americans for the most part, they came for a large part from Europe, not so long ago.
They shouldn't have wildly different genetics, yet you're going to find a lot more fat people in the US than in Europe.What the US has that is considerably different is the food and the layout of the cities.
When I came to the US I was quite amazed at the rather insane serving sizes.
An US "normal" sized ice cream is something I simply couldn't finish eating.
The idea of a restaurant serving enough food that you'd ask for a box to take it home was completely alien to me before visiting the US.
Getting the drinks refilled constantly was another new thing.Also, in Europe you can, and usually do walk to places.
Even if you have a car, there is a small grocery store somewhere nearby you can walk to when you find you don't have enough milk, and not far enough to actually bother getting into the car.
In the parts of the US I've been to, however, it seems impossible to do that as the streets aren't made for it.Second, no matter what kind of metabolism you have, you can't violate the conservation of energy.
If you use enough energy, or eat less than you consume, you will HAVE to get slimmer, eventually.
Your body can't create additional mass out of nowhere, or produce energy to keep you going out of nothing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31143446</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>Mr\_Silver</author>
	<datestamp>1266246120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Airlines have overcrammed more seats into each plane than the original designers would have believed possible. When people complain, they respond with "You're freakishly tall," or "You're mbidly obese," when the real answer is "The airlines are so greedy they're cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle."</p></div></blockquote><p>IMDB says that Kevin Smith is 5'9" and according to <a href="http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/height\_weight.shtml" title="disabled-world.com">this site</a> [disabled-world.com] his target weight should be 157lb.</p><p> <a href="http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1549702&amp;cid=31136970" title="slashdot.org">One of the comments</a> [slashdot.org] indicated that he was 350lb which means that he is 2.2x the target weight for that height. Or to put it another way, <b>two healthy 6'1" men together weigh <i>less</i> than one 5'9" Kevin Smith!</b></p><p>Whilst airlines are guilty of cramming in (partly in an effort to satisfy our demand for cheap air fares), in this case the "real answer" you want to hear is simply that he's morbidly obese.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Airlines have overcrammed more seats into each plane than the original designers would have believed possible .
When people complain , they respond with " You 're freakishly tall , " or " You 're mbidly obese , " when the real answer is " The airlines are so greedy they 're cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle .
" IMDB says that Kevin Smith is 5'9 " and according to this site [ disabled-world.com ] his target weight should be 157lb .
One of the comments [ slashdot.org ] indicated that he was 350lb which means that he is 2.2x the target weight for that height .
Or to put it another way , two healthy 6'1 " men together weigh less than one 5'9 " Kevin Smith ! Whilst airlines are guilty of cramming in ( partly in an effort to satisfy our demand for cheap air fares ) , in this case the " real answer " you want to hear is simply that he 's morbidly obese .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Airlines have overcrammed more seats into each plane than the original designers would have believed possible.
When people complain, they respond with "You're freakishly tall," or "You're mbidly obese," when the real answer is "The airlines are so greedy they're cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle.
"IMDB says that Kevin Smith is 5'9" and according to this site [disabled-world.com] his target weight should be 157lb.
One of the comments [slashdot.org] indicated that he was 350lb which means that he is 2.2x the target weight for that height.
Or to put it another way, two healthy 6'1" men together weigh less than one 5'9" Kevin Smith!Whilst airlines are guilty of cramming in (partly in an effort to satisfy our demand for cheap air fares), in this case the "real answer" you want to hear is simply that he's morbidly obese.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136890</id>
	<title>Re:About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>dadelbunts</author>
	<datestamp>1266141060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And this is what is wrong with society these days. Instead of telling little timmy to not eat that fifth cheeseburger we just let him and then tell everyone to accept him for what he is and make special accomodations for him. If the seats on an airliner are too small for a person yes it is his fault. Same for the seats on a bus or in a car. Why should the airlines or anyone else have to give you special accomodatins for being a lazy overeating slob. Would you make the same argument if someone smelled like old feces and stale urine? Should we just accept them as well?</htmltext>
<tokenext>And this is what is wrong with society these days .
Instead of telling little timmy to not eat that fifth cheeseburger we just let him and then tell everyone to accept him for what he is and make special accomodations for him .
If the seats on an airliner are too small for a person yes it is his fault .
Same for the seats on a bus or in a car .
Why should the airlines or anyone else have to give you special accomodatins for being a lazy overeating slob .
Would you make the same argument if someone smelled like old feces and stale urine ?
Should we just accept them as well ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this is what is wrong with society these days.
Instead of telling little timmy to not eat that fifth cheeseburger we just let him and then tell everyone to accept him for what he is and make special accomodations for him.
If the seats on an airliner are too small for a person yes it is his fault.
Same for the seats on a bus or in a car.
Why should the airlines or anyone else have to give you special accomodatins for being a lazy overeating slob.
Would you make the same argument if someone smelled like old feces and stale urine?
Should we just accept them as well?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137112</id>
	<title>And now we know the REASON...</title>
	<author>d474</author>
	<datestamp>1266142620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And now we know the REAL reason the airlines want full body scanners.<br> <br>"Sorry sir, but according to the 3-D scanner, the computer has determined you will not be able to board the plane with 1 boarding pass."</htmltext>
<tokenext>And now we know the REAL reason the airlines want full body scanners .
" Sorry sir , but according to the 3-D scanner , the computer has determined you will not be able to board the plane with 1 boarding pass .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And now we know the REAL reason the airlines want full body scanners.
"Sorry sir, but according to the 3-D scanner, the computer has determined you will not be able to board the plane with 1 boarding pass.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138384</id>
	<title>Fed Gov employees and "reasonable accommodations"</title>
	<author>BenEnglishAtHome</author>
	<datestamp>1266151140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're a U.S. federal government employee, if you're willing to go through the embarrassment of the process, if you have the medical certs from doctors, you can get your condition of being morbidly obese declared a "disability" subject to "reasonable accommodation."  Under normal circumstances, that means you get a uprated, wider office chair.  (Actually, you can usually get that by just asking.  Reasonable accommodations are generally intended for people with more obvious problems.  To wit: If your vision is bad, you can get a big monitor.  If you're blind, you can get a braille monitor.  If you use a wheelchair, you can get an automatic door opener installed on the door you use the most.  Etc., etc., etc.)</p><p>While I've never seen this done with any normal line-level grunt, I have seen a morbidly obese executive who traveled a great deal get the "reasonable accommodation" of a first class seat for every flight.</p><p>I guess there's always a solution if you're willing to pay for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're a U.S. federal government employee , if you 're willing to go through the embarrassment of the process , if you have the medical certs from doctors , you can get your condition of being morbidly obese declared a " disability " subject to " reasonable accommodation .
" Under normal circumstances , that means you get a uprated , wider office chair .
( Actually , you can usually get that by just asking .
Reasonable accommodations are generally intended for people with more obvious problems .
To wit : If your vision is bad , you can get a big monitor .
If you 're blind , you can get a braille monitor .
If you use a wheelchair , you can get an automatic door opener installed on the door you use the most .
Etc. , etc. , etc .
) While I 've never seen this done with any normal line-level grunt , I have seen a morbidly obese executive who traveled a great deal get the " reasonable accommodation " of a first class seat for every flight.I guess there 's always a solution if you 're willing to pay for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're a U.S. federal government employee, if you're willing to go through the embarrassment of the process, if you have the medical certs from doctors, you can get your condition of being morbidly obese declared a "disability" subject to "reasonable accommodation.
"  Under normal circumstances, that means you get a uprated, wider office chair.
(Actually, you can usually get that by just asking.
Reasonable accommodations are generally intended for people with more obvious problems.
To wit: If your vision is bad, you can get a big monitor.
If you're blind, you can get a braille monitor.
If you use a wheelchair, you can get an automatic door opener installed on the door you use the most.
Etc., etc., etc.
)While I've never seen this done with any normal line-level grunt, I have seen a morbidly obese executive who traveled a great deal get the "reasonable accommodation" of a first class seat for every flight.I guess there's always a solution if you're willing to pay for it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137556</id>
	<title>Too Small</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266145320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course its ok if the airlines have cut back both the width of the seats and the space between the rows in order to pack in more cattle. Thats ok, despite the fact that over and beyond the obesity problem people in general are getting taller and heavier. Sure, sell by the seat or sell passage by the pound, but dont cut back on the space and then punish the people who were dumb enough to fly them in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course its ok if the airlines have cut back both the width of the seats and the space between the rows in order to pack in more cattle .
Thats ok , despite the fact that over and beyond the obesity problem people in general are getting taller and heavier .
Sure , sell by the seat or sell passage by the pound , but dont cut back on the space and then punish the people who were dumb enough to fly them in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course its ok if the airlines have cut back both the width of the seats and the space between the rows in order to pack in more cattle.
Thats ok, despite the fact that over and beyond the obesity problem people in general are getting taller and heavier.
Sure, sell by the seat or sell passage by the pound, but dont cut back on the space and then punish the people who were dumb enough to fly them in the first place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138246</id>
	<title>Re:About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1266150240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sure, most of the time they themselves are to blame for the state they're in. So what? It's their choice, and they shouldn't have to endure getting frowned upon, let alone being openly insulted.</p></div><p>It's their choice to do something that's gross enough to be frowned upon and insulted. The important thing about choices is that they have consequences, and freedom to make choices comes with the obligation to accept and deal with those consequences.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I mean, c'mon, when the seats in an airliner are too small for the person, it's the person's fault?</p> </div><p>It depends. If he's overweight, and it's not for genetic reasons, then yes, of course (duh).</p><p><div class="quote"><p> How so?</p></div><p>Because he's a fat asshole.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>IMO, the airline is to blame when a large person inconveniences someone else due to the size of the seats.</p></div><p>Airlines could make larger seats, but that would mean less seats on the plane, and consequently higher ticket prices. So we'd still get to blame the fat guys for that.</p><p>P.S. I'm overweight myself, though not significantly so. Regardless, I'm trying to fix that, and not whine about how the society's norms don't align with how I look because of my past poor dietary choices.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , most of the time they themselves are to blame for the state they 're in .
So what ?
It 's their choice , and they should n't have to endure getting frowned upon , let alone being openly insulted.It 's their choice to do something that 's gross enough to be frowned upon and insulted .
The important thing about choices is that they have consequences , and freedom to make choices comes with the obligation to accept and deal with those consequences.I mean , c'mon , when the seats in an airliner are too small for the person , it 's the person 's fault ?
It depends .
If he 's overweight , and it 's not for genetic reasons , then yes , of course ( duh ) .
How so ? Because he 's a fat asshole.IMO , the airline is to blame when a large person inconveniences someone else due to the size of the seats.Airlines could make larger seats , but that would mean less seats on the plane , and consequently higher ticket prices .
So we 'd still get to blame the fat guys for that.P.S .
I 'm overweight myself , though not significantly so .
Regardless , I 'm trying to fix that , and not whine about how the society 's norms do n't align with how I look because of my past poor dietary choices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, most of the time they themselves are to blame for the state they're in.
So what?
It's their choice, and they shouldn't have to endure getting frowned upon, let alone being openly insulted.It's their choice to do something that's gross enough to be frowned upon and insulted.
The important thing about choices is that they have consequences, and freedom to make choices comes with the obligation to accept and deal with those consequences.I mean, c'mon, when the seats in an airliner are too small for the person, it's the person's fault?
It depends.
If he's overweight, and it's not for genetic reasons, then yes, of course (duh).
How so?Because he's a fat asshole.IMO, the airline is to blame when a large person inconveniences someone else due to the size of the seats.Airlines could make larger seats, but that would mean less seats on the plane, and consequently higher ticket prices.
So we'd still get to blame the fat guys for that.P.S.
I'm overweight myself, though not significantly so.
Regardless, I'm trying to fix that, and not whine about how the society's norms don't align with how I look because of my past poor dietary choices.
	</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>XantheKnight</author>
	<datestamp>1266173280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hear fricking hear.  Thank you for posting this.  I am horrified that this thread has turned into a fat-hating fest instead of a reasoned discussion of all the issues here.  Leaving aside the really controversial issue of whether most people's weight is genetically determined and thus "their fault", and even whether your size should incur a negative moral judgment from those around you, for some illogical reason (maybe if you guys had universal medicare I would understand, but, you really don't!) , there has been a surprising dearth of critical thought in this threat regarding just how much airlines "policies" are motivated by profit riding on the acceptability of fat phobia than this nebulous "safety" concern.  Have people seen the width of an airplane aisle lately??  I'm a 5'8" female of 140 pounds and I can barely pass through those things, let alone when one of the drink/food carts is completely blocking one.  I'd just love to see the fricking pandemonium if the shit hit the fan while those carts were blocking both aisles (as they are 50\% of the time) and people were trying to get out.  Bullshit this policy is motivated by safety concerns! Bullshit!  It's motivated by money!!  It's just that fat phobia is one of the last remaining "acceptable" discriminations allowed in North America and they want their piece of it.

</p><p>I vaguely recall a thread on Slashdot the other day where we discussed the pricing of eBooks.  A lot of grief was being aired regarding the "unfair" $15 price point for eBooks.  A lot of people thought it was B.S. that despite lower production costs for an eBook version, the print version and the eBook version were similarly priced.  A few industry insiders had to remind us of the cardinal rule of capitalism: Everything is worth what its buyer will pay.  So, if we force fat people to pay double for an airline seat, and give them no other choice, they're going to pay it, aren't they?  The airlines may couch this policy in "safety" or what-not, but that is crap.  Must we be reminded yet again that this is really about money?

</p><p>If it's really about fuel costs, then every passenger would pay for their tickets BY WEIGHT.  Including baggage.  Airlines could easily provide a fixed # of smaller seats per plane for children, and larger seats for fat people.  Airlines are very, very good at knowing the average demographics of their passengers.  They could easily, easily do this, and in fact provide *added* safety for children and fat people by doing so.  But they don't.  Why would they, after all, when parents will pay full price for their half-sized children, and fat people will pay double?  If you owned the airlines, would you change such a profitable policy?  No way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hear fricking hear .
Thank you for posting this .
I am horrified that this thread has turned into a fat-hating fest instead of a reasoned discussion of all the issues here .
Leaving aside the really controversial issue of whether most people 's weight is genetically determined and thus " their fault " , and even whether your size should incur a negative moral judgment from those around you , for some illogical reason ( maybe if you guys had universal medicare I would understand , but , you really do n't !
) , there has been a surprising dearth of critical thought in this threat regarding just how much airlines " policies " are motivated by profit riding on the acceptability of fat phobia than this nebulous " safety " concern .
Have people seen the width of an airplane aisle lately ? ?
I 'm a 5'8 " female of 140 pounds and I can barely pass through those things , let alone when one of the drink/food carts is completely blocking one .
I 'd just love to see the fricking pandemonium if the shit hit the fan while those carts were blocking both aisles ( as they are 50 \ % of the time ) and people were trying to get out .
Bullshit this policy is motivated by safety concerns !
Bullshit ! It 's motivated by money ! !
It 's just that fat phobia is one of the last remaining " acceptable " discriminations allowed in North America and they want their piece of it .
I vaguely recall a thread on Slashdot the other day where we discussed the pricing of eBooks .
A lot of grief was being aired regarding the " unfair " $ 15 price point for eBooks .
A lot of people thought it was B.S .
that despite lower production costs for an eBook version , the print version and the eBook version were similarly priced .
A few industry insiders had to remind us of the cardinal rule of capitalism : Everything is worth what its buyer will pay .
So , if we force fat people to pay double for an airline seat , and give them no other choice , they 're going to pay it , are n't they ?
The airlines may couch this policy in " safety " or what-not , but that is crap .
Must we be reminded yet again that this is really about money ?
If it 's really about fuel costs , then every passenger would pay for their tickets BY WEIGHT .
Including baggage .
Airlines could easily provide a fixed # of smaller seats per plane for children , and larger seats for fat people .
Airlines are very , very good at knowing the average demographics of their passengers .
They could easily , easily do this , and in fact provide * added * safety for children and fat people by doing so .
But they do n't .
Why would they , after all , when parents will pay full price for their half-sized children , and fat people will pay double ?
If you owned the airlines , would you change such a profitable policy ?
No way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hear fricking hear.
Thank you for posting this.
I am horrified that this thread has turned into a fat-hating fest instead of a reasoned discussion of all the issues here.
Leaving aside the really controversial issue of whether most people's weight is genetically determined and thus "their fault", and even whether your size should incur a negative moral judgment from those around you, for some illogical reason (maybe if you guys had universal medicare I would understand, but, you really don't!
) , there has been a surprising dearth of critical thought in this threat regarding just how much airlines "policies" are motivated by profit riding on the acceptability of fat phobia than this nebulous "safety" concern.
Have people seen the width of an airplane aisle lately??
I'm a 5'8" female of 140 pounds and I can barely pass through those things, let alone when one of the drink/food carts is completely blocking one.
I'd just love to see the fricking pandemonium if the shit hit the fan while those carts were blocking both aisles (as they are 50\% of the time) and people were trying to get out.
Bullshit this policy is motivated by safety concerns!
Bullshit!  It's motivated by money!!
It's just that fat phobia is one of the last remaining "acceptable" discriminations allowed in North America and they want their piece of it.
I vaguely recall a thread on Slashdot the other day where we discussed the pricing of eBooks.
A lot of grief was being aired regarding the "unfair" $15 price point for eBooks.
A lot of people thought it was B.S.
that despite lower production costs for an eBook version, the print version and the eBook version were similarly priced.
A few industry insiders had to remind us of the cardinal rule of capitalism: Everything is worth what its buyer will pay.
So, if we force fat people to pay double for an airline seat, and give them no other choice, they're going to pay it, aren't they?
The airlines may couch this policy in "safety" or what-not, but that is crap.
Must we be reminded yet again that this is really about money?
If it's really about fuel costs, then every passenger would pay for their tickets BY WEIGHT.
Including baggage.
Airlines could easily provide a fixed # of smaller seats per plane for children, and larger seats for fat people.
Airlines are very, very good at knowing the average demographics of their passengers.
They could easily, easily do this, and in fact provide *added* safety for children and fat people by doing so.
But they don't.
Why would they, after all, when parents will pay full price for their half-sized children, and fat people will pay double?
If you owned the airlines, would you change such a profitable policy?
No way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136244</id>
	<title>Before the dust settles</title>
	<author>Vinegar Joe</author>
	<datestamp>1266180180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll bet Southwest will wish he really was Silent Bob.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll bet Southwest will wish he really was Silent Bob .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll bet Southwest will wish he really was Silent Bob.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31139158</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>Rakshasa Taisab</author>
	<datestamp>1266156240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There is a condition known as "hypothyroidism". There are many causes; in my case it was an auto-immune disease known as "Grave's Disease". It caused my body to attack my own thyroid gland - a gland in the neck that secretes thyroid hormone, which controls most of a person's metabolism.</p></div><p>Yes, it seems the US has had a pandemic of 'hypothyroidism' the last few decades. I wonder if it is contagious.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a condition known as " hypothyroidism " .
There are many causes ; in my case it was an auto-immune disease known as " Grave 's Disease " .
It caused my body to attack my own thyroid gland - a gland in the neck that secretes thyroid hormone , which controls most of a person 's metabolism.Yes , it seems the US has had a pandemic of 'hypothyroidism ' the last few decades .
I wonder if it is contagious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a condition known as "hypothyroidism".
There are many causes; in my case it was an auto-immune disease known as "Grave's Disease".
It caused my body to attack my own thyroid gland - a gland in the neck that secretes thyroid hormone, which controls most of a person's metabolism.Yes, it seems the US has had a pandemic of 'hypothyroidism' the last few decades.
I wonder if it is contagious.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136502</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1266138660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They do not.  They do however charge a bunch to ship the wheelchair (since it's oversized checked baggage).  Also, as you might have noted in the previous sentence: the wheelchair bound do not get to ride their own wheelchairs in the terminal.</p><p>But more importantly: it's a disability that requires more resources to accommodate.  The very fat simply need an extra seat.  Even if they only ooze over 10\%, that means that I, the unlucky sod sitting next to the very fat, cannot use the armrest, have to have part of my body in contact with their creepy warm folds (I used to be thin enough to scrunch over, which although uncomfortable is preferable to the unwanted contact), and have to deal with the pit smell and their loud strained breathing.</p><p>I don't get 10\% of my ticket back for the inconvenience, and am uncompensated for the experience as well.  I like Kevin Smith's movies, but I wouldn't want to sit next to him on a plane.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do not .
They do however charge a bunch to ship the wheelchair ( since it 's oversized checked baggage ) .
Also , as you might have noted in the previous sentence : the wheelchair bound do not get to ride their own wheelchairs in the terminal.But more importantly : it 's a disability that requires more resources to accommodate .
The very fat simply need an extra seat .
Even if they only ooze over 10 \ % , that means that I , the unlucky sod sitting next to the very fat , can not use the armrest , have to have part of my body in contact with their creepy warm folds ( I used to be thin enough to scrunch over , which although uncomfortable is preferable to the unwanted contact ) , and have to deal with the pit smell and their loud strained breathing.I do n't get 10 \ % of my ticket back for the inconvenience , and am uncompensated for the experience as well .
I like Kevin Smith 's movies , but I would n't want to sit next to him on a plane .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They do not.
They do however charge a bunch to ship the wheelchair (since it's oversized checked baggage).
Also, as you might have noted in the previous sentence: the wheelchair bound do not get to ride their own wheelchairs in the terminal.But more importantly: it's a disability that requires more resources to accommodate.
The very fat simply need an extra seat.
Even if they only ooze over 10\%, that means that I, the unlucky sod sitting next to the very fat, cannot use the armrest, have to have part of my body in contact with their creepy warm folds (I used to be thin enough to scrunch over, which although uncomfortable is preferable to the unwanted contact), and have to deal with the pit smell and their loud strained breathing.I don't get 10\% of my ticket back for the inconvenience, and am uncompensated for the experience as well.
I like Kevin Smith's movies, but I wouldn't want to sit next to him on a plane.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266250860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not a matter of saving a dollar.  It's a matter of saving thousands.  First class flights aren't merely a few bucks more costly than cattle class flights, they are TEN TIMES as much.  For most people, it's not a choice between legroom or a few bucks.  It's a choice between flying or not affording the flight at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not a matter of saving a dollar .
It 's a matter of saving thousands .
First class flights are n't merely a few bucks more costly than cattle class flights , they are TEN TIMES as much .
For most people , it 's not a choice between legroom or a few bucks .
It 's a choice between flying or not affording the flight at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not a matter of saving a dollar.
It's a matter of saving thousands.
First class flights aren't merely a few bucks more costly than cattle class flights, they are TEN TIMES as much.
For most people, it's not a choice between legroom or a few bucks.
It's a choice between flying or not affording the flight at all.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:awesome!</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1266140220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>I think the key word here is obese, usually defined as a BMI over 30 kg/m^2, i.e. weight divided by height squared. You might not enjoy sitting next to a person with a BMI around say 28 kg/m^2, but they'll basically remain inside their seat. Anyone whose BMI exceeds 30 will spill over into your seat, so removing them will make the crowded flight much more pleasant.</i>
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<br>
BMI isn't just useless, it's worse than useless.  Not only does more muscle mass than usual completely skew the results, but being taller than average does as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the key word here is obese , usually defined as a BMI over 30 kg/m ^ 2 , i.e .
weight divided by height squared .
You might not enjoy sitting next to a person with a BMI around say 28 kg/m ^ 2 , but they 'll basically remain inside their seat .
Anyone whose BMI exceeds 30 will spill over into your seat , so removing them will make the crowded flight much more pleasant .
BMI is n't just useless , it 's worse than useless .
Not only does more muscle mass than usual completely skew the results , but being taller than average does as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the key word here is obese, usually defined as a BMI over 30 kg/m^2, i.e.
weight divided by height squared.
You might not enjoy sitting next to a person with a BMI around say 28 kg/m^2, but they'll basically remain inside their seat.
Anyone whose BMI exceeds 30 will spill over into your seat, so removing them will make the crowded flight much more pleasant.
BMI isn't just useless, it's worse than useless.
Not only does more muscle mass than usual completely skew the results, but being taller than average does as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136254</id>
	<title>I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>sycodon</author>
	<datestamp>1266180300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if they can get their butts between the armrests, the rest of them overflows into the next seat.</p><p>They should have required him to buy two seats, since he takes up two seats and twice the gas as a normal person.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if they can get their butts between the armrests , the rest of them overflows into the next seat.They should have required him to buy two seats , since he takes up two seats and twice the gas as a normal person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if they can get their butts between the armrests, the rest of them overflows into the next seat.They should have required him to buy two seats, since he takes up two seats and twice the gas as a normal person.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137220</id>
	<title>Re:That's what you get</title>
	<author>JavaBear</author>
	<datestamp>1266143160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>for being a fat ugly bastard</p></div><p>There's being fat, and there's being stupid. One of which IS curable, sadly for you it ain't stupidity.</p><p>If Kevin Smith was thrown off the plane, then Southwest would have to bar most Americans.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>for being a fat ugly bastardThere 's being fat , and there 's being stupid .
One of which IS curable , sadly for you it ai n't stupidity.If Kevin Smith was thrown off the plane , then Southwest would have to bar most Americans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for being a fat ugly bastardThere's being fat, and there's being stupid.
One of which IS curable, sadly for you it ain't stupidity.If Kevin Smith was thrown off the plane, then Southwest would have to bar most Americans.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136612</id>
	<title>Muscle means BMI is worthless.</title>
	<author>WiiVault</author>
	<datestamp>1266139380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For those of us who spend lots of time lifting weights BMI is pretty useless. Muscle is denser than fat, many of my friends in great shape have a BMI over 30. These guys may be large, but they certainly aren't obese.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For those of us who spend lots of time lifting weights BMI is pretty useless .
Muscle is denser than fat , many of my friends in great shape have a BMI over 30 .
These guys may be large , but they certainly are n't obese .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those of us who spend lots of time lifting weights BMI is pretty useless.
Muscle is denser than fat, many of my friends in great shape have a BMI over 30.
These guys may be large, but they certainly aren't obese.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140450</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>grimdawg</author>
	<datestamp>1266166680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Spoken like a true fatty.

If you put as much effort into losing weight as you do making up excuses for your giant arse, you might be better off.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Spoken like a true fatty .
If you put as much effort into losing weight as you do making up excuses for your giant arse , you might be better off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spoken like a true fatty.
If you put as much effort into losing weight as you do making up excuses for your giant arse, you might be better off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31142140</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>ArsenneLupin</author>
	<datestamp>1266229800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>At this point, the person who cannot remain in their seat will either be assigned a new one or forced to deplane.</p></div><p>Do planes usually carry XL-sized parachutes?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At this point , the person who can not remain in their seat will either be assigned a new one or forced to deplane.Do planes usually carry XL-sized parachutes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At this point, the person who cannot remain in their seat will either be assigned a new one or forced to deplane.Do planes usually carry XL-sized parachutes?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136702</id>
	<title>I rarely use twitter but...</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1266139860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I felt this was an opportune time to ask him to do the truffle shuffle and post it on Youtube. Seriously, if he's officially now a famous fatty, I felt it was the least I could do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I felt this was an opportune time to ask him to do the truffle shuffle and post it on Youtube .
Seriously , if he 's officially now a famous fatty , I felt it was the least I could do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I felt this was an opportune time to ask him to do the truffle shuffle and post it on Youtube.
Seriously, if he's officially now a famous fatty, I felt it was the least I could do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136636</id>
	<title>To quote Jay...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266139500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jay: What do you look so shocked for, man? Fat bastard does this all the time. He thinks just 'cause he doesn't say anything, it'll have some huge impact when he does open his fuckin' mouth...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jay : What do you look so shocked for , man ?
Fat bastard does this all the time .
He thinks just 'cause he does n't say anything , it 'll have some huge impact when he does open his fuckin ' mouth.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jay: What do you look so shocked for, man?
Fat bastard does this all the time.
He thinks just 'cause he doesn't say anything, it'll have some huge impact when he does open his fuckin' mouth...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31192070</id>
	<title>This is reasonable, and I'm heavy myself</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266491640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is definitely based on volume and not weight, and I am testament to this.</p><p>I'm 6ft tall and 355 pounds. However, on a plane -- even on Japanese planes, which are famous for having smaller seats and restrooms -- I can comfortably fit in a seat with the armrests down. I don't have a lot of room, but an inch or two within boundaries. I require a seatbelt extension, but by no means have to adjust it to the max.</p><p>Oh, and I fly coach.</p><p>So yes, tall and heavy is treated differently than short and heavy; girth is a huge factor.</p><p>If you're so wide that you CANNOT do this, you are taking up more than one seat. If you are taking up more than one seat, you are responsible for paying for more than one seat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is definitely based on volume and not weight , and I am testament to this.I 'm 6ft tall and 355 pounds .
However , on a plane -- even on Japanese planes , which are famous for having smaller seats and restrooms -- I can comfortably fit in a seat with the armrests down .
I do n't have a lot of room , but an inch or two within boundaries .
I require a seatbelt extension , but by no means have to adjust it to the max.Oh , and I fly coach.So yes , tall and heavy is treated differently than short and heavy ; girth is a huge factor.If you 're so wide that you CAN NOT do this , you are taking up more than one seat .
If you are taking up more than one seat , you are responsible for paying for more than one seat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is definitely based on volume and not weight, and I am testament to this.I'm 6ft tall and 355 pounds.
However, on a plane -- even on Japanese planes, which are famous for having smaller seats and restrooms -- I can comfortably fit in a seat with the armrests down.
I don't have a lot of room, but an inch or two within boundaries.
I require a seatbelt extension, but by no means have to adjust it to the max.Oh, and I fly coach.So yes, tall and heavy is treated differently than short and heavy; girth is a huge factor.If you're so wide that you CANNOT do this, you are taking up more than one seat.
If you are taking up more than one seat, you are responsible for paying for more than one seat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136690</id>
	<title>It's on?</title>
	<author>Joe Tie.</author>
	<datestamp>1266139800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If he's planning on using his nerd cred to an advantage, I think he's in for a surprise. Every time I've seen the topic of fat people on planes come up on the internet, the rage is overwhelming. Geeks have a reputation for being fat, but I think it's a somewhat undeserved one. Geeks like problem solving, and once we decide being fat is a problem we usually do something about it. Unlike most people. Which makes us really, really, unsympathetic to people who choose to not only remain inactive about it but also complain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If he 's planning on using his nerd cred to an advantage , I think he 's in for a surprise .
Every time I 've seen the topic of fat people on planes come up on the internet , the rage is overwhelming .
Geeks have a reputation for being fat , but I think it 's a somewhat undeserved one .
Geeks like problem solving , and once we decide being fat is a problem we usually do something about it .
Unlike most people .
Which makes us really , really , unsympathetic to people who choose to not only remain inactive about it but also complain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he's planning on using his nerd cred to an advantage, I think he's in for a surprise.
Every time I've seen the topic of fat people on planes come up on the internet, the rage is overwhelming.
Geeks have a reputation for being fat, but I think it's a somewhat undeserved one.
Geeks like problem solving, and once we decide being fat is a problem we usually do something about it.
Unlike most people.
Which makes us really, really, unsympathetic to people who choose to not only remain inactive about it but also complain.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136804</id>
	<title>Not So Silent Bob</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266140460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From: http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/not-so-silent-bob</p><p>Not So Silent Bob<br>Sun, 02/14/2010 - 14:57 &mdash; Christi Day</p><p>Many of you reached out to us via Twitter last night and today regarding a situation a Customer Twittered about that occurred on a Southwest flight.  It is not our customary method of Customer Relations to be so public in how we work through these situations, but with so many people involved in the occurrence, you also should be involved in the solution. First and foremost, to Mr. Smith; we would like to echo our Tweets and again offer our heartfelt apologies to you.   We are sincerely sorry for your travel experience on Southwest Airlines.</p><p>As soon as we saw the first Tweet from Mr. Smith, we contacted him personally to apologize for his experience and to address his concerns on both Twitter and with a personal phone call. Since the situation has received a lot of public attention, we'd like to take the opportunity to address a few of the specifics here as well.</p><p>Mr. Smith originally purchased two Southwest seats on a flight from Oakland to Burbank &ndash; as he&rsquo;s been known to do when traveling on Southwest.  He decided to change his plans and board an earlier flight to Burbank, which technically means flying standby. As you may know, airlines are not able to clear standby passengers until all Customers are boarded. When the time came to board Mr. Smith, we had only a single seat available for him to occupy. Our pilots are responsible for the Safety and comfort of all Customers on the aircraft and therefore, made the determination that Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight. Our Employees explained why the decision was made, accommodated Mr. Smith on a later flight, and issued him a $100 Southwest travel voucher for his inconvenience.</p><p>You've read about these situations before. Southwest instituted our Customer of Size policy more than 25 years ago. The policy requires passengers that can not fit safely and comfortably in one seat to purchase an additional seat while traveling. This policy is not unique to Southwest Airlines and it is not a revenue generator. Most, if not all, carriers have similar policies, but unique to Southwest is the refunding of the second seat purchased (if the flight does not oversell) which is greater than any revenue made (full policy can be found here). The spirit of this policy is based solely on Customer comfort and Safety. As a Company committed to serving our Customers in Safety and comfort, we feel the definitive boundary between seats is the armrest. If a Customer cannot comfortably lower the armrest and infringes on a portion of another seat, a Customer seated adjacent would be very uncomfortable and a timely exit from the aircraft in the event of an emergency might be compromised if we allow a cramped, restricted seating arrangement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From : http : //www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/not-so-silent-bobNot So Silent BobSun , 02/14/2010 - 14 : 57    Christi DayMany of you reached out to us via Twitter last night and today regarding a situation a Customer Twittered about that occurred on a Southwest flight .
It is not our customary method of Customer Relations to be so public in how we work through these situations , but with so many people involved in the occurrence , you also should be involved in the solution .
First and foremost , to Mr. Smith ; we would like to echo our Tweets and again offer our heartfelt apologies to you .
We are sincerely sorry for your travel experience on Southwest Airlines.As soon as we saw the first Tweet from Mr. Smith , we contacted him personally to apologize for his experience and to address his concerns on both Twitter and with a personal phone call .
Since the situation has received a lot of public attention , we 'd like to take the opportunity to address a few of the specifics here as well.Mr .
Smith originally purchased two Southwest seats on a flight from Oakland to Burbank    as he    s been known to do when traveling on Southwest .
He decided to change his plans and board an earlier flight to Burbank , which technically means flying standby .
As you may know , airlines are not able to clear standby passengers until all Customers are boarded .
When the time came to board Mr. Smith , we had only a single seat available for him to occupy .
Our pilots are responsible for the Safety and comfort of all Customers on the aircraft and therefore , made the determination that Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight .
Our Employees explained why the decision was made , accommodated Mr. Smith on a later flight , and issued him a $ 100 Southwest travel voucher for his inconvenience.You 've read about these situations before .
Southwest instituted our Customer of Size policy more than 25 years ago .
The policy requires passengers that can not fit safely and comfortably in one seat to purchase an additional seat while traveling .
This policy is not unique to Southwest Airlines and it is not a revenue generator .
Most , if not all , carriers have similar policies , but unique to Southwest is the refunding of the second seat purchased ( if the flight does not oversell ) which is greater than any revenue made ( full policy can be found here ) .
The spirit of this policy is based solely on Customer comfort and Safety .
As a Company committed to serving our Customers in Safety and comfort , we feel the definitive boundary between seats is the armrest .
If a Customer can not comfortably lower the armrest and infringes on a portion of another seat , a Customer seated adjacent would be very uncomfortable and a timely exit from the aircraft in the event of an emergency might be compromised if we allow a cramped , restricted seating arrangement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From: http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/not-so-silent-bobNot So Silent BobSun, 02/14/2010 - 14:57 — Christi DayMany of you reached out to us via Twitter last night and today regarding a situation a Customer Twittered about that occurred on a Southwest flight.
It is not our customary method of Customer Relations to be so public in how we work through these situations, but with so many people involved in the occurrence, you also should be involved in the solution.
First and foremost, to Mr. Smith; we would like to echo our Tweets and again offer our heartfelt apologies to you.
We are sincerely sorry for your travel experience on Southwest Airlines.As soon as we saw the first Tweet from Mr. Smith, we contacted him personally to apologize for his experience and to address his concerns on both Twitter and with a personal phone call.
Since the situation has received a lot of public attention, we'd like to take the opportunity to address a few of the specifics here as well.Mr.
Smith originally purchased two Southwest seats on a flight from Oakland to Burbank – as he’s been known to do when traveling on Southwest.
He decided to change his plans and board an earlier flight to Burbank, which technically means flying standby.
As you may know, airlines are not able to clear standby passengers until all Customers are boarded.
When the time came to board Mr. Smith, we had only a single seat available for him to occupy.
Our pilots are responsible for the Safety and comfort of all Customers on the aircraft and therefore, made the determination that Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight.
Our Employees explained why the decision was made, accommodated Mr. Smith on a later flight, and issued him a $100 Southwest travel voucher for his inconvenience.You've read about these situations before.
Southwest instituted our Customer of Size policy more than 25 years ago.
The policy requires passengers that can not fit safely and comfortably in one seat to purchase an additional seat while traveling.
This policy is not unique to Southwest Airlines and it is not a revenue generator.
Most, if not all, carriers have similar policies, but unique to Southwest is the refunding of the second seat purchased (if the flight does not oversell) which is greater than any revenue made (full policy can be found here).
The spirit of this policy is based solely on Customer comfort and Safety.
As a Company committed to serving our Customers in Safety and comfort, we feel the definitive boundary between seats is the armrest.
If a Customer cannot comfortably lower the armrest and infringes on a portion of another seat, a Customer seated adjacent would be very uncomfortable and a timely exit from the aircraft in the event of an emergency might be compromised if we allow a cramped, restricted seating arrangement.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140348</id>
	<title>An objective measure of seat size</title>
	<author>jeko</author>
	<datestamp>1266165720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about this? Can we agree that the airlines have made seat sizes too small when the cramped spaces begin injuring their passengers? Can we agree that the airlines have made seat sizes too small when they begin killing 300 passengers a year? <br>
<br>
Now google <a href="http://www.airsafe.com/issues/medical/dvt.htm" title="airsafe.com">DVT</a> [airsafe.com] for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about this ?
Can we agree that the airlines have made seat sizes too small when the cramped spaces begin injuring their passengers ?
Can we agree that the airlines have made seat sizes too small when they begin killing 300 passengers a year ?
Now google DVT [ airsafe.com ] for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about this?
Can we agree that the airlines have made seat sizes too small when the cramped spaces begin injuring their passengers?
Can we agree that the airlines have made seat sizes too small when they begin killing 300 passengers a year?
Now google DVT [airsafe.com] for me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138228</id>
	<title>Let us cut though all this BS, what was Kevin's...</title>
	<author>yoshi\_mon</author>
	<datestamp>1266150180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What was Kevin's weight/height?  I mean I've seen a lot of subjective options here as to what it's like to fly next to someone who is spilling over into your seat.  How it's unfair that a 5 year old has to pay a full fair because they are taking up a full seat but weigh next to nothing compared to an adult.  Blah blah blah.</p><p>Look, during my real hardcore WoW days was at least 250 lbs. and I stand 6' tall.  I've leaned up to 190 lbs. but you know I still fill those airline seats up pretty damn much the same way.  (For those who don't understand how the male body stores it's fat, it is not just right to our guts.  Look at any obese persons face and think about it.)  And I'm quite sure I could have easily packed on another 50 lbs. and not made that much a difference in my presence to the people next to me from 250 -&gt; to 300 at 6'.</p><p>My point is that I've yet to see the real reason that Kevin, given that he <b>freaking eventually flew the same airliner to his destination</b>, was booted from the flight in question.  I suspect that it had nothing to do with his weight but lets clear that up so that we can get down to what really happened.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What was Kevin 's weight/height ?
I mean I 've seen a lot of subjective options here as to what it 's like to fly next to someone who is spilling over into your seat .
How it 's unfair that a 5 year old has to pay a full fair because they are taking up a full seat but weigh next to nothing compared to an adult .
Blah blah blah.Look , during my real hardcore WoW days was at least 250 lbs .
and I stand 6 ' tall .
I 've leaned up to 190 lbs .
but you know I still fill those airline seats up pretty damn much the same way .
( For those who do n't understand how the male body stores it 's fat , it is not just right to our guts .
Look at any obese persons face and think about it .
) And I 'm quite sure I could have easily packed on another 50 lbs .
and not made that much a difference in my presence to the people next to me from 250 - &gt; to 300 at 6'.My point is that I 've yet to see the real reason that Kevin , given that he freaking eventually flew the same airliner to his destination , was booted from the flight in question .
I suspect that it had nothing to do with his weight but lets clear that up so that we can get down to what really happened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What was Kevin's weight/height?
I mean I've seen a lot of subjective options here as to what it's like to fly next to someone who is spilling over into your seat.
How it's unfair that a 5 year old has to pay a full fair because they are taking up a full seat but weigh next to nothing compared to an adult.
Blah blah blah.Look, during my real hardcore WoW days was at least 250 lbs.
and I stand 6' tall.
I've leaned up to 190 lbs.
but you know I still fill those airline seats up pretty damn much the same way.
(For those who don't understand how the male body stores it's fat, it is not just right to our guts.
Look at any obese persons face and think about it.
)  And I'm quite sure I could have easily packed on another 50 lbs.
and not made that much a difference in my presence to the people next to me from 250 -&gt; to 300 at 6'.My point is that I've yet to see the real reason that Kevin, given that he freaking eventually flew the same airliner to his destination, was booted from the flight in question.
I suspect that it had nothing to do with his weight but lets clear that up so that we can get down to what really happened.</sentencetext>
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	<title>awesome!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266138480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm occasionally the guy who gives up his seat on an oversold flight in exchange for a free flight, but I'd support reforming the airline standard ticket policy to say :</p><p>If a flight is oversold, the airline will first remove any obese people, thus ensuring that remaining passengers are as comfortable as possible.  If the flight is still oversold, the airline must offer their usual compensation scheme.</p><p>I think the key word here is obese, usually defined as a BMI over 30 kg/m^2, i.e. weight divided by height squared.  You might not enjoy sitting next to a person with a BMI around say 28 kg/m^2, but they'll basically remain inside their seat.  Anyone whose BMI exceeds 30 will spill over into your seat, so removing them will make the crowded flight much more pleasant.</p><p>If he's still his Silent Bob weight, then Kevin Smith's BMI lies between 25 and 30, classifying him as overweight, but not obese.  If he's obese now, then he really need to lose weight immediately, or else face serious health problems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm occasionally the guy who gives up his seat on an oversold flight in exchange for a free flight , but I 'd support reforming the airline standard ticket policy to say : If a flight is oversold , the airline will first remove any obese people , thus ensuring that remaining passengers are as comfortable as possible .
If the flight is still oversold , the airline must offer their usual compensation scheme.I think the key word here is obese , usually defined as a BMI over 30 kg/m ^ 2 , i.e .
weight divided by height squared .
You might not enjoy sitting next to a person with a BMI around say 28 kg/m ^ 2 , but they 'll basically remain inside their seat .
Anyone whose BMI exceeds 30 will spill over into your seat , so removing them will make the crowded flight much more pleasant.If he 's still his Silent Bob weight , then Kevin Smith 's BMI lies between 25 and 30 , classifying him as overweight , but not obese .
If he 's obese now , then he really need to lose weight immediately , or else face serious health problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm occasionally the guy who gives up his seat on an oversold flight in exchange for a free flight, but I'd support reforming the airline standard ticket policy to say :If a flight is oversold, the airline will first remove any obese people, thus ensuring that remaining passengers are as comfortable as possible.
If the flight is still oversold, the airline must offer their usual compensation scheme.I think the key word here is obese, usually defined as a BMI over 30 kg/m^2, i.e.
weight divided by height squared.
You might not enjoy sitting next to a person with a BMI around say 28 kg/m^2, but they'll basically remain inside their seat.
Anyone whose BMI exceeds 30 will spill over into your seat, so removing them will make the crowded flight much more pleasant.If he's still his Silent Bob weight, then Kevin Smith's BMI lies between 25 and 30, classifying him as overweight, but not obese.
If he's obese now, then he really need to lose weight immediately, or else face serious health problems.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140166</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>aXis100</author>
	<datestamp>1266163920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Metabolic condition or not, the fat does not apppear out of thin air.  You still have to have bring your hand to your mouth and consume those calories.  It's like an asthmatic complaining of shortness of breath after smoking.</p><p>I realise however that in order to control your weight you may end up being hungry all of the time though, and that just plain sucks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Metabolic condition or not , the fat does not apppear out of thin air .
You still have to have bring your hand to your mouth and consume those calories .
It 's like an asthmatic complaining of shortness of breath after smoking.I realise however that in order to control your weight you may end up being hungry all of the time though , and that just plain sucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Metabolic condition or not, the fat does not apppear out of thin air.
You still have to have bring your hand to your mouth and consume those calories.
It's like an asthmatic complaining of shortness of breath after smoking.I realise however that in order to control your weight you may end up being hungry all of the time though, and that just plain sucks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136720</id>
	<title>It's about time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266140040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd say it's about time that a captain of a major airline has finally stood up for himself and his job. In the event of an emergency the crew of the aircraft is required to be able to get all of the passengers off the aircraft in a short period of time (90 secs? someone correct me on this one). Someone who barely fits down the aisle certainly would hold that up, so it WOULD be a safety risk. In the end it is the captain of the aircraft that is responsible (legally) for the safety of the flight, and he's the one who gets canned if something goes wrong. The airlines have no willingness to support the decisions of the pilots they employ and who they entrust to make safety decisions, they need to stop apologizing for the decisions that are made to ensure the safety of the rest of the passengers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say it 's about time that a captain of a major airline has finally stood up for himself and his job .
In the event of an emergency the crew of the aircraft is required to be able to get all of the passengers off the aircraft in a short period of time ( 90 secs ?
someone correct me on this one ) .
Someone who barely fits down the aisle certainly would hold that up , so it WOULD be a safety risk .
In the end it is the captain of the aircraft that is responsible ( legally ) for the safety of the flight , and he 's the one who gets canned if something goes wrong .
The airlines have no willingness to support the decisions of the pilots they employ and who they entrust to make safety decisions , they need to stop apologizing for the decisions that are made to ensure the safety of the rest of the passengers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say it's about time that a captain of a major airline has finally stood up for himself and his job.
In the event of an emergency the crew of the aircraft is required to be able to get all of the passengers off the aircraft in a short period of time (90 secs?
someone correct me on this one).
Someone who barely fits down the aisle certainly would hold that up, so it WOULD be a safety risk.
In the end it is the captain of the aircraft that is responsible (legally) for the safety of the flight, and he's the one who gets canned if something goes wrong.
The airlines have no willingness to support the decisions of the pilots they employ and who they entrust to make safety decisions, they need to stop apologizing for the decisions that are made to ensure the safety of the rest of the passengers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31145442</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1266256020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Exercise is the another myth."</p><p>This is ridiculous.  You're quite correct that genetic factors and some acquired diseases can predispose you to be fatter or thinner by changing the way your body processes food but it is certainly not a myth that exercising more will cause you to be thinner and exercising less will cause you to be fatter.  It is also not a myth that your diet affects your weight.  You do not directly burn fat while exercising but you certainly divert calories from fat production when exercising and you do burn fat between exercise sessions to support increased muscle mass, muscle building, repair, etc.</p><p>It is not very common for a person who gets a reasonable amount of exercise and eats a reasonable diet to be two-seater obese.  That usually requires both genetics AND poor diet and exercise habits.  In the majority of cases obesity is a preventable disease.</p><p>None of which changes the fact that, if you need two seats and only one is available you should not be allowed to fly, regardless of whether it's your fault you need two seats or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Exercise is the another myth .
" This is ridiculous .
You 're quite correct that genetic factors and some acquired diseases can predispose you to be fatter or thinner by changing the way your body processes food but it is certainly not a myth that exercising more will cause you to be thinner and exercising less will cause you to be fatter .
It is also not a myth that your diet affects your weight .
You do not directly burn fat while exercising but you certainly divert calories from fat production when exercising and you do burn fat between exercise sessions to support increased muscle mass , muscle building , repair , etc.It is not very common for a person who gets a reasonable amount of exercise and eats a reasonable diet to be two-seater obese .
That usually requires both genetics AND poor diet and exercise habits .
In the majority of cases obesity is a preventable disease.None of which changes the fact that , if you need two seats and only one is available you should not be allowed to fly , regardless of whether it 's your fault you need two seats or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Exercise is the another myth.
"This is ridiculous.
You're quite correct that genetic factors and some acquired diseases can predispose you to be fatter or thinner by changing the way your body processes food but it is certainly not a myth that exercising more will cause you to be thinner and exercising less will cause you to be fatter.
It is also not a myth that your diet affects your weight.
You do not directly burn fat while exercising but you certainly divert calories from fat production when exercising and you do burn fat between exercise sessions to support increased muscle mass, muscle building, repair, etc.It is not very common for a person who gets a reasonable amount of exercise and eats a reasonable diet to be two-seater obese.
That usually requires both genetics AND poor diet and exercise habits.
In the majority of cases obesity is a preventable disease.None of which changes the fact that, if you need two seats and only one is available you should not be allowed to fly, regardless of whether it's your fault you need two seats or not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141584</id>
	<title>Re:Because they're spilling over into my seat</title>
	<author>RileyBryan</author>
	<datestamp>1266265800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm a bigger guy, broad shouldered, 5'9" 225 lbs. Yes, I'm a bit over fighting weight but I'd hardly consider my weight out of control. I barely fit into a southwest seat. It is miserable, I spend the whole thing with my shoulders shrugged, trying not to steal the armrest from my neighbor. Yes, they have the cheapest fare but its the most uncomfortable trip you'll ever take. My wife, a 5'7 120 lb'er says the same thing- she complains we're slapped in there like sardines. Perhaps they just got cheap and crammed an extra seat into each row, completely sacrificing comfort for all aboard.

Would anybody really bitch if they just had bigger seats? This is a design problem that the airline figures they can shed the blame onto heavy people. This is probably the fault of some penny pinching executive, but you all want to blame the hamburgers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a bigger guy , broad shouldered , 5'9 " 225 lbs .
Yes , I 'm a bit over fighting weight but I 'd hardly consider my weight out of control .
I barely fit into a southwest seat .
It is miserable , I spend the whole thing with my shoulders shrugged , trying not to steal the armrest from my neighbor .
Yes , they have the cheapest fare but its the most uncomfortable trip you 'll ever take .
My wife , a 5'7 120 lb'er says the same thing- she complains we 're slapped in there like sardines .
Perhaps they just got cheap and crammed an extra seat into each row , completely sacrificing comfort for all aboard .
Would anybody really bitch if they just had bigger seats ?
This is a design problem that the airline figures they can shed the blame onto heavy people .
This is probably the fault of some penny pinching executive , but you all want to blame the hamburgers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a bigger guy, broad shouldered, 5'9" 225 lbs.
Yes, I'm a bit over fighting weight but I'd hardly consider my weight out of control.
I barely fit into a southwest seat.
It is miserable, I spend the whole thing with my shoulders shrugged, trying not to steal the armrest from my neighbor.
Yes, they have the cheapest fare but its the most uncomfortable trip you'll ever take.
My wife, a 5'7 120 lb'er says the same thing- she complains we're slapped in there like sardines.
Perhaps they just got cheap and crammed an extra seat into each row, completely sacrificing comfort for all aboard.
Would anybody really bitch if they just had bigger seats?
This is a design problem that the airline figures they can shed the blame onto heavy people.
This is probably the fault of some penny pinching executive, but you all want to blame the hamburgers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137012</id>
	<title>Re:About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>illuminae</author>
	<datestamp>1266142020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You say they themselves are to blame for the state they are in.</p><p>So yes, if that is the case then they should certainly pay for their choice!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You say they themselves are to blame for the state they are in.So yes , if that is the case then they should certainly pay for their choice !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You say they themselves are to blame for the state they are in.So yes, if that is the case then they should certainly pay for their choice!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137122</id>
	<title>Seems reasonable...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266142680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if you read the Southwest response:   http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/not-so-silent-bob</p><p>It looks like Mr. Smith normally purchases a second seat for himself when he flies Southwest, but went on an earlier flight (flying standby) where an extra seat wasn't available.  The pilot determined he could not fit in a single seat and did what he deemed best for the comfort of the passenger next to him.  I can understand the anger, but it seems by his own admission that he needs (or at least is more comfortable in) two seats normally, and that since there was not an additional seat available, the pilot decided it was the right time to follow Southwest policy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if you read the Southwest response : http : //www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/not-so-silent-bobIt looks like Mr. Smith normally purchases a second seat for himself when he flies Southwest , but went on an earlier flight ( flying standby ) where an extra seat was n't available .
The pilot determined he could not fit in a single seat and did what he deemed best for the comfort of the passenger next to him .
I can understand the anger , but it seems by his own admission that he needs ( or at least is more comfortable in ) two seats normally , and that since there was not an additional seat available , the pilot decided it was the right time to follow Southwest policy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if you read the Southwest response:   http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/not-so-silent-bobIt looks like Mr. Smith normally purchases a second seat for himself when he flies Southwest, but went on an earlier flight (flying standby) where an extra seat wasn't available.
The pilot determined he could not fit in a single seat and did what he deemed best for the comfort of the passenger next to him.
I can understand the anger, but it seems by his own admission that he needs (or at least is more comfortable in) two seats normally, and that since there was not an additional seat available, the pilot decided it was the right time to follow Southwest policy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137022</id>
	<title>Analogy time.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266142140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Big fish, small pond.  Sexually active in a nerd pond.  Thin in a nerd pond.  Yes, nerds tend to be fat virgins.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Big fish , small pond .
Sexually active in a nerd pond .
Thin in a nerd pond .
Yes , nerds tend to be fat virgins .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Big fish, small pond.
Sexually active in a nerd pond.
Thin in a nerd pond.
Yes, nerds tend to be fat virgins.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140214</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266164340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>eating more doesn't not directly link to being fatter</p></div><p>I hope you realize that what you've just said is "eating more <b>does</b> directly link to being fatter" but based on the tone of your post I can tell you don't.</p><p>As long as you consume less energy than you expend, you will lose weight. Unless you're claiming that certain fatass humans have managed to completely reverse fundamental laws of physics and are actually creating mass from nothing.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Exercise is the another myth. Many people will not burn any significant amount of fat from exercise.</p></div><p>I've got some boot camp Drill Instructors that can provide you with ample evidence that directly contradicts your claim.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>For the many peole who's bodies decide to release fat as energy based on diet, and not on activity, exercising, while likely to make them healthier, will not make them smaller. It will make them larger and more tired.</p></div><p>Wow, just wow. I guess someone needs to tell all those Olympic long distance runners that they have huge muscles and are overweight.</p><p>Look, I'll put this plain and simple. You have your head square up your ass. You obviously understand nothing of genetics, nutrition, exercise, or the human body in general.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>eating more does n't not directly link to being fatterI hope you realize that what you 've just said is " eating more does directly link to being fatter " but based on the tone of your post I can tell you do n't.As long as you consume less energy than you expend , you will lose weight .
Unless you 're claiming that certain fatass humans have managed to completely reverse fundamental laws of physics and are actually creating mass from nothing.Exercise is the another myth .
Many people will not burn any significant amount of fat from exercise.I 've got some boot camp Drill Instructors that can provide you with ample evidence that directly contradicts your claim.For the many peole who 's bodies decide to release fat as energy based on diet , and not on activity , exercising , while likely to make them healthier , will not make them smaller .
It will make them larger and more tired.Wow , just wow .
I guess someone needs to tell all those Olympic long distance runners that they have huge muscles and are overweight.Look , I 'll put this plain and simple .
You have your head square up your ass .
You obviously understand nothing of genetics , nutrition , exercise , or the human body in general .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eating more doesn't not directly link to being fatterI hope you realize that what you've just said is "eating more does directly link to being fatter" but based on the tone of your post I can tell you don't.As long as you consume less energy than you expend, you will lose weight.
Unless you're claiming that certain fatass humans have managed to completely reverse fundamental laws of physics and are actually creating mass from nothing.Exercise is the another myth.
Many people will not burn any significant amount of fat from exercise.I've got some boot camp Drill Instructors that can provide you with ample evidence that directly contradicts your claim.For the many peole who's bodies decide to release fat as energy based on diet, and not on activity, exercising, while likely to make them healthier, will not make them smaller.
It will make them larger and more tired.Wow, just wow.
I guess someone needs to tell all those Olympic long distance runners that they have huge muscles and are overweight.Look, I'll put this plain and simple.
You have your head square up your ass.
You obviously understand nothing of genetics, nutrition, exercise, or the human body in general.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136494</id>
	<title>Southwest Airlines "Customer of Size" Q&amp;A</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266138660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to <a href="http://www.southwest.com/travel\_center/cos\_qa.html" title="southwest.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.southwest.com/travel\_center/cos\_qa.html</a> [southwest.com] </p><p>It sounds like the determination is made if you can not fit within the confines of a standard seat with the arm rests down on both sides.   I wonder if they don't have a test airplane seat you can sit in before hand at the terminal before trying to board or set of measurements you can take at home before buying your ticket/boarding to reduce the potential for embarrassment of being forced off the plane once you try to seat onboard.</p><p>From the link above:
<br>"I am a large person and use a seatbelt extension, but I fit in one aircraft seat. Do I have to purchase two seats?
<b>Our policy does not focus on weight, and the seatbelt extension is not the determining factor. We use the ability to lower the armrests as the gauge, as the armrests are truly the definitive boundary between each seat.</b>"
</p><p>Another interesting tidibt from the link:
<br> <b>Are all overweight people subject to the policy?
<br>
Many Americans are "overweight" or "clinically obese." A number of overweight or obese people occupy only one seat. In fact, many Customers may use a seatbelt extension but occupy only one seat, and these Customers would not be asked to reserve a second seat. If a Customer cannot lower the armrest (and is unable to comfortably travel with it in the down position), he/she is required to pay for the additional seat occupied. Again, we will offer a refund if the flight does not oversell.</b> </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to http : //www.southwest.com/travel \ _center/cos \ _qa.html [ southwest.com ] It sounds like the determination is made if you can not fit within the confines of a standard seat with the arm rests down on both sides .
I wonder if they do n't have a test airplane seat you can sit in before hand at the terminal before trying to board or set of measurements you can take at home before buying your ticket/boarding to reduce the potential for embarrassment of being forced off the plane once you try to seat onboard.From the link above : " I am a large person and use a seatbelt extension , but I fit in one aircraft seat .
Do I have to purchase two seats ?
Our policy does not focus on weight , and the seatbelt extension is not the determining factor .
We use the ability to lower the armrests as the gauge , as the armrests are truly the definitive boundary between each seat .
" Another interesting tidibt from the link : Are all overweight people subject to the policy ?
Many Americans are " overweight " or " clinically obese .
" A number of overweight or obese people occupy only one seat .
In fact , many Customers may use a seatbelt extension but occupy only one seat , and these Customers would not be asked to reserve a second seat .
If a Customer can not lower the armrest ( and is unable to comfortably travel with it in the down position ) , he/she is required to pay for the additional seat occupied .
Again , we will offer a refund if the flight does not oversell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to http://www.southwest.com/travel\_center/cos\_qa.html [southwest.com] It sounds like the determination is made if you can not fit within the confines of a standard seat with the arm rests down on both sides.
I wonder if they don't have a test airplane seat you can sit in before hand at the terminal before trying to board or set of measurements you can take at home before buying your ticket/boarding to reduce the potential for embarrassment of being forced off the plane once you try to seat onboard.From the link above:
"I am a large person and use a seatbelt extension, but I fit in one aircraft seat.
Do I have to purchase two seats?
Our policy does not focus on weight, and the seatbelt extension is not the determining factor.
We use the ability to lower the armrests as the gauge, as the armrests are truly the definitive boundary between each seat.
"
Another interesting tidibt from the link:
 Are all overweight people subject to the policy?
Many Americans are "overweight" or "clinically obese.
" A number of overweight or obese people occupy only one seat.
In fact, many Customers may use a seatbelt extension but occupy only one seat, and these Customers would not be asked to reserve a second seat.
If a Customer cannot lower the armrest (and is unable to comfortably travel with it in the down position), he/she is required to pay for the additional seat occupied.
Again, we will offer a refund if the flight does not oversell. </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31143476</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266246300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I agree with the post, the real problem is food.  Simply put, our food is killing us and any one else who adapts the "Western Diet".</p><p>Corn (and corn-derived food products) takes most of the blame here, but so should excessive salt, sugar and other preservatives.  The solution is not simply exercise more, but also eat less.  Although, "eating less" is not a straight-forward prescription to better health.  Really, it should eat less meat and other processed foods.  Everyone should be eating more plants, but not necessarily organics (which is more elitist than helpful to our food production).</p><p>But will we be able to change our "Western Diet"?  I think no, because it's simply too easy to go to Denny's for breakfast, McDonald's for lunch and Ruby Tuesday for dinner -- with plenty of stops to Starbucks in-between.</p><p>Most likely we'll end up like the human characters in WALL-E.</p><p>I, for one, welcome our care-taker-robot-overlords!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I agree with the post , the real problem is food .
Simply put , our food is killing us and any one else who adapts the " Western Diet " .Corn ( and corn-derived food products ) takes most of the blame here , but so should excessive salt , sugar and other preservatives .
The solution is not simply exercise more , but also eat less .
Although , " eating less " is not a straight-forward prescription to better health .
Really , it should eat less meat and other processed foods .
Everyone should be eating more plants , but not necessarily organics ( which is more elitist than helpful to our food production ) .But will we be able to change our " Western Diet " ?
I think no , because it 's simply too easy to go to Denny 's for breakfast , McDonald 's for lunch and Ruby Tuesday for dinner -- with plenty of stops to Starbucks in-between.Most likely we 'll end up like the human characters in WALL-E.I , for one , welcome our care-taker-robot-overlords !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I agree with the post, the real problem is food.
Simply put, our food is killing us and any one else who adapts the "Western Diet".Corn (and corn-derived food products) takes most of the blame here, but so should excessive salt, sugar and other preservatives.
The solution is not simply exercise more, but also eat less.
Although, "eating less" is not a straight-forward prescription to better health.
Really, it should eat less meat and other processed foods.
Everyone should be eating more plants, but not necessarily organics (which is more elitist than helpful to our food production).But will we be able to change our "Western Diet"?
I think no, because it's simply too easy to go to Denny's for breakfast, McDonald's for lunch and Ruby Tuesday for dinner -- with plenty of stops to Starbucks in-between.Most likely we'll end up like the human characters in WALL-E.I, for one, welcome our care-taker-robot-overlords!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137722</id>
	<title>STFU</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266146580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If people spent as much time dieting and exercising as they do whining about how cruel the world was, this wouldnt be an issue<br>In all but most cases , a person's girth is directly related to how much crap they eat and not some hormonal/hereditary issue<br>Stop tweeting and put the fork down</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If people spent as much time dieting and exercising as they do whining about how cruel the world was , this wouldnt be an issueIn all but most cases , a person 's girth is directly related to how much crap they eat and not some hormonal/hereditary issueStop tweeting and put the fork down</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If people spent as much time dieting and exercising as they do whining about how cruel the world was, this wouldnt be an issueIn all but most cases , a person's girth is directly related to how much crap they eat and not some hormonal/hereditary issueStop tweeting and put the fork down</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137380</id>
	<title>Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>jeko</author>
	<datestamp>1266144180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Airlines have overcrammed more seats into each plane than the original designers would have believed possible. When people complain, they respond with "You're freakishly tall," or "You're mbidly obese," when the real answer is "The airlines are so greedy they're cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle."</p><p>My 5'2", 100lb mother-in-law complains that they've made the seats too small to be comfortable, and she's been flying for 50 years. Do we really think the problem is Kevin Smith is too husky?</p><p>How about this for an answer? Let's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Airlines have overcrammed more seats into each plane than the original designers would have believed possible .
When people complain , they respond with " You 're freakishly tall , " or " You 're mbidly obese , " when the real answer is " The airlines are so greedy they 're cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle .
" My 5'2 " , 100lb mother-in-law complains that they 've made the seats too small to be comfortable , and she 's been flying for 50 years .
Do we really think the problem is Kevin Smith is too husky ? How about this for an answer ?
Let 's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Airlines have overcrammed more seats into each plane than the original designers would have believed possible.
When people complain, they respond with "You're freakishly tall," or "You're mbidly obese," when the real answer is "The airlines are so greedy they're cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle.
"My 5'2", 100lb mother-in-law complains that they've made the seats too small to be comfortable, and she's been flying for 50 years.
Do we really think the problem is Kevin Smith is too husky?How about this for an answer?
Let's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31142004</id>
	<title>So..</title>
	<author>crossmr</author>
	<datestamp>1266227580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>United breaks guitars<br>Southwest kicks off fat guys<br>American Airlines is going to charge $8 for a blanket..</p><p>who is a husky, but chilly rock star supposed to fly with?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>United breaks guitarsSouthwest kicks off fat guysAmerican Airlines is going to charge $ 8 for a blanket..who is a husky , but chilly rock star supposed to fly with ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>United breaks guitarsSouthwest kicks off fat guysAmerican Airlines is going to charge $8 for a blanket..who is a husky, but chilly rock star supposed to fly with?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31142774</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>Shrike82</author>
	<datestamp>1266238200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The problem is not about whether people choose to be fat or not, despite all the trolls in this story being modded Insightful for spouting abuse. The issue here is that some people, for whatever reason, are simply too large to fit in a single seat. No mention of blame, no moral judgements. They're simply too big. Some have the choice of slimming down, others don't. Either way, if they're too big to fit in a single seat <b>then they need to buy another</b>. It might not be their fault that they're overwieght, but it sure as hell isn't the fault of the poor bastard sat next to them either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is not about whether people choose to be fat or not , despite all the trolls in this story being modded Insightful for spouting abuse .
The issue here is that some people , for whatever reason , are simply too large to fit in a single seat .
No mention of blame , no moral judgements .
They 're simply too big .
Some have the choice of slimming down , others do n't .
Either way , if they 're too big to fit in a single seat then they need to buy another .
It might not be their fault that they 're overwieght , but it sure as hell is n't the fault of the poor bastard sat next to them either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is not about whether people choose to be fat or not, despite all the trolls in this story being modded Insightful for spouting abuse.
The issue here is that some people, for whatever reason, are simply too large to fit in a single seat.
No mention of blame, no moral judgements.
They're simply too big.
Some have the choice of slimming down, others don't.
Either way, if they're too big to fit in a single seat then they need to buy another.
It might not be their fault that they're overwieght, but it sure as hell isn't the fault of the poor bastard sat next to them either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31139834</id>
	<title>Please change the story title</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266161100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It should read "Fat pig thinks everyone should make special accommodations for him because he's too busy stuffing his face to realize the world doesn't revolve around him". Thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It should read " Fat pig thinks everyone should make special accommodations for him because he 's too busy stuffing his face to realize the world does n't revolve around him " .
Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should read "Fat pig thinks everyone should make special accommodations for him because he's too busy stuffing his face to realize the world doesn't revolve around him".
Thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137322</id>
	<title>Re:Southwest Airlines "Customer of Size" Q&amp;A</title>
	<author>eliz\_beth</author>
	<datestamp>1266143880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>By their own definition and what Kevin stated- he fit in the seat with the arm rests down.

Regardless if he purchases two seats regularly, he meets their definition of fitting in the seat.  Telling him to leave is ridiculous.  If I had money to burn, heck I'd buy two seats just to have some breathing room because it is still cheaper than first class.

I understand having a rule in place for situations where a person just does not fit in the seat period.  And there are planes that I fit in fine and others that are a tight squeeze for everyone but the 5'1" size 00.

I'd much rather sit next to someone who's leg may touch mine under the armrest than someone who hasn't taken a bath, who is just barely sober enough to be allowed to fly, who brings out their entire office in their lap and over into your "space" without asking or even apologizing, who doesn't think rules apply to them (Yes you have to turn off your phone!), or people who think it is up to everyone else to parent their child.

Or the flight I took where small talk of the "where are you going" bit on a 6 hour flight went from nice to 5 hours of hearing how the other girl and I in the row were going to hell because we were flying out to see significant others.

So where really should the lines be drawn?  Part of it is driven by the marketplace of course but I think the marketplace needs to recognizes the changes in the market.</htmltext>
<tokenext>By their own definition and what Kevin stated- he fit in the seat with the arm rests down .
Regardless if he purchases two seats regularly , he meets their definition of fitting in the seat .
Telling him to leave is ridiculous .
If I had money to burn , heck I 'd buy two seats just to have some breathing room because it is still cheaper than first class .
I understand having a rule in place for situations where a person just does not fit in the seat period .
And there are planes that I fit in fine and others that are a tight squeeze for everyone but the 5'1 " size 00 .
I 'd much rather sit next to someone who 's leg may touch mine under the armrest than someone who has n't taken a bath , who is just barely sober enough to be allowed to fly , who brings out their entire office in their lap and over into your " space " without asking or even apologizing , who does n't think rules apply to them ( Yes you have to turn off your phone !
) , or people who think it is up to everyone else to parent their child .
Or the flight I took where small talk of the " where are you going " bit on a 6 hour flight went from nice to 5 hours of hearing how the other girl and I in the row were going to hell because we were flying out to see significant others .
So where really should the lines be drawn ?
Part of it is driven by the marketplace of course but I think the marketplace needs to recognizes the changes in the market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By their own definition and what Kevin stated- he fit in the seat with the arm rests down.
Regardless if he purchases two seats regularly, he meets their definition of fitting in the seat.
Telling him to leave is ridiculous.
If I had money to burn, heck I'd buy two seats just to have some breathing room because it is still cheaper than first class.
I understand having a rule in place for situations where a person just does not fit in the seat period.
And there are planes that I fit in fine and others that are a tight squeeze for everyone but the 5'1" size 00.
I'd much rather sit next to someone who's leg may touch mine under the armrest than someone who hasn't taken a bath, who is just barely sober enough to be allowed to fly, who brings out their entire office in their lap and over into your "space" without asking or even apologizing, who doesn't think rules apply to them (Yes you have to turn off your phone!
), or people who think it is up to everyone else to parent their child.
Or the flight I took where small talk of the "where are you going" bit on a 6 hour flight went from nice to 5 hours of hearing how the other girl and I in the row were going to hell because we were flying out to see significant others.
So where really should the lines be drawn?
Part of it is driven by the marketplace of course but I think the marketplace needs to recognizes the changes in the market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137970</id>
	<title>Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>GuruBuckaroo</author>
	<datestamp>1266148320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I realize I'm posting late to a popular thread, but there's an issue I'd like to address here. I see a lot of comments saying essentially "fatties are that way because they choose to be". Aside from the fact that "fatties" is a perfect example of the fact that obese people are the only remaining demographic of which it's perfectly acceptable to abuse, obesity is not always a choice. </p><p>Let me state that another way for the thinking-impaired: I don't choose to be fat, but I am. And there ain't jack I can do about it, short of expensive cosmetic surgery.</p><p>OK, you're asking "How, fatass, can you be fat? Surely exercise and diet can overcome these things?"</p><p>There is a condition known as "hypothyroidism". There are many causes; in my case it was an auto-immune disease known as "Grave's Disease". It caused my body to attack my own thyroid gland - a gland in the neck that secretes thyroid hormone, which controls most of a person's metabolism. The reaction from the thyroid is to over-produce thyroid hormone, sending your metabolism into overdrive. When I was first diagnosed, I was recently out of the Army, and had been very fit, about 185lbs of muscle (on a 5'8" frame). I went to my doctor because I lost 30 lbs - down to 155lbs - and my resting heart rate had skyrocketed to 120beats per minute. They tested me, and told me that if it wasn't corrected, I would have an extremely elevated risk for heart failure. The treatment is to take a simple, $12,000 pill made of radioactive iodine. The thyroid converts iodine into thyroid hormone, so the vast majority of iodine in your diet is drawn to the thyroid. The radiation then kills off a portion of your thyroid. There is also a surgery, but since the thyroid is wrapped around the nerves controlling your vocal cords, and the slightest nick can paralyze them - so it's not done much anymore. </p><p>The problem with this treatment is that they cannot get the "dosage" of the radioactive iodine exactly correct. In most cases, they over-compensate, and kill off too much thyroid. This happened to me. My metabolism slowed to a crawl. They replace the missing thyroid hormone with a synthetic version, which is supposed to do the same thing. Problem is, medical studies have shown that it doesn't. They test your required dose of synthetic hormone by testing for a different hormone, TSH - "Thyroid Sensing Hormone". Basically, another gland in your brain checks your body for thyroid level, and if it's too low, it sends out TSH to trigger your thyroid to create more thyroid hormone. Turns out, though, that synthetic thyroid hormone is detected as real thyroid hormone by that gland - causing it to normalize the level of TSH - but it doesn't actually do the job that the real thyroid hormone does - raising your metabolism.</p><p>End result - I take $400 (after insurance) of medicine per year that doesn't do jack, to keep my TSH level "normal", and my metabolism is still crawling. I weigh about 260lbs now. I eat sensibly, get exercise, but none of it does any good at reducing my fat. Only way I could really lose it would be through liposuction. <i>And I'm not alone</i>. Anyone who has this condition will tell you the same thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I realize I 'm posting late to a popular thread , but there 's an issue I 'd like to address here .
I see a lot of comments saying essentially " fatties are that way because they choose to be " .
Aside from the fact that " fatties " is a perfect example of the fact that obese people are the only remaining demographic of which it 's perfectly acceptable to abuse , obesity is not always a choice .
Let me state that another way for the thinking-impaired : I do n't choose to be fat , but I am .
And there ai n't jack I can do about it , short of expensive cosmetic surgery.OK , you 're asking " How , fatass , can you be fat ?
Surely exercise and diet can overcome these things ?
" There is a condition known as " hypothyroidism " .
There are many causes ; in my case it was an auto-immune disease known as " Grave 's Disease " .
It caused my body to attack my own thyroid gland - a gland in the neck that secretes thyroid hormone , which controls most of a person 's metabolism .
The reaction from the thyroid is to over-produce thyroid hormone , sending your metabolism into overdrive .
When I was first diagnosed , I was recently out of the Army , and had been very fit , about 185lbs of muscle ( on a 5'8 " frame ) .
I went to my doctor because I lost 30 lbs - down to 155lbs - and my resting heart rate had skyrocketed to 120beats per minute .
They tested me , and told me that if it was n't corrected , I would have an extremely elevated risk for heart failure .
The treatment is to take a simple , $ 12,000 pill made of radioactive iodine .
The thyroid converts iodine into thyroid hormone , so the vast majority of iodine in your diet is drawn to the thyroid .
The radiation then kills off a portion of your thyroid .
There is also a surgery , but since the thyroid is wrapped around the nerves controlling your vocal cords , and the slightest nick can paralyze them - so it 's not done much anymore .
The problem with this treatment is that they can not get the " dosage " of the radioactive iodine exactly correct .
In most cases , they over-compensate , and kill off too much thyroid .
This happened to me .
My metabolism slowed to a crawl .
They replace the missing thyroid hormone with a synthetic version , which is supposed to do the same thing .
Problem is , medical studies have shown that it does n't .
They test your required dose of synthetic hormone by testing for a different hormone , TSH - " Thyroid Sensing Hormone " .
Basically , another gland in your brain checks your body for thyroid level , and if it 's too low , it sends out TSH to trigger your thyroid to create more thyroid hormone .
Turns out , though , that synthetic thyroid hormone is detected as real thyroid hormone by that gland - causing it to normalize the level of TSH - but it does n't actually do the job that the real thyroid hormone does - raising your metabolism.End result - I take $ 400 ( after insurance ) of medicine per year that does n't do jack , to keep my TSH level " normal " , and my metabolism is still crawling .
I weigh about 260lbs now .
I eat sensibly , get exercise , but none of it does any good at reducing my fat .
Only way I could really lose it would be through liposuction .
And I 'm not alone .
Anyone who has this condition will tell you the same thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I realize I'm posting late to a popular thread, but there's an issue I'd like to address here.
I see a lot of comments saying essentially "fatties are that way because they choose to be".
Aside from the fact that "fatties" is a perfect example of the fact that obese people are the only remaining demographic of which it's perfectly acceptable to abuse, obesity is not always a choice.
Let me state that another way for the thinking-impaired: I don't choose to be fat, but I am.
And there ain't jack I can do about it, short of expensive cosmetic surgery.OK, you're asking "How, fatass, can you be fat?
Surely exercise and diet can overcome these things?
"There is a condition known as "hypothyroidism".
There are many causes; in my case it was an auto-immune disease known as "Grave's Disease".
It caused my body to attack my own thyroid gland - a gland in the neck that secretes thyroid hormone, which controls most of a person's metabolism.
The reaction from the thyroid is to over-produce thyroid hormone, sending your metabolism into overdrive.
When I was first diagnosed, I was recently out of the Army, and had been very fit, about 185lbs of muscle (on a 5'8" frame).
I went to my doctor because I lost 30 lbs - down to 155lbs - and my resting heart rate had skyrocketed to 120beats per minute.
They tested me, and told me that if it wasn't corrected, I would have an extremely elevated risk for heart failure.
The treatment is to take a simple, $12,000 pill made of radioactive iodine.
The thyroid converts iodine into thyroid hormone, so the vast majority of iodine in your diet is drawn to the thyroid.
The radiation then kills off a portion of your thyroid.
There is also a surgery, but since the thyroid is wrapped around the nerves controlling your vocal cords, and the slightest nick can paralyze them - so it's not done much anymore.
The problem with this treatment is that they cannot get the "dosage" of the radioactive iodine exactly correct.
In most cases, they over-compensate, and kill off too much thyroid.
This happened to me.
My metabolism slowed to a crawl.
They replace the missing thyroid hormone with a synthetic version, which is supposed to do the same thing.
Problem is, medical studies have shown that it doesn't.
They test your required dose of synthetic hormone by testing for a different hormone, TSH - "Thyroid Sensing Hormone".
Basically, another gland in your brain checks your body for thyroid level, and if it's too low, it sends out TSH to trigger your thyroid to create more thyroid hormone.
Turns out, though, that synthetic thyroid hormone is detected as real thyroid hormone by that gland - causing it to normalize the level of TSH - but it doesn't actually do the job that the real thyroid hormone does - raising your metabolism.End result - I take $400 (after insurance) of medicine per year that doesn't do jack, to keep my TSH level "normal", and my metabolism is still crawling.
I weigh about 260lbs now.
I eat sensibly, get exercise, but none of it does any good at reducing my fat.
Only way I could really lose it would be through liposuction.
And I'm not alone.
Anyone who has this condition will tell you the same thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31144434</id>
	<title>Is it size, really?</title>
	<author>(arg!)Styopa</author>
	<datestamp>1266251580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm curious if they'd apply the 'person of size' rule to (for example) an NFL player who is in NO SENSE obese, but with his massive physique and shoulders would obviously overflow the seat width parameters.</p><p>I'm 6'4", and a medium-build 290lbs, so when I see another guy my size sitting in the adjacent seat, I think we both cry a little.  I always take aisle seat, not for more legroom (hahah, as if anyone's knees bend sideways) but so if some poor bastard IS stuck in the seat next to me, I can lean 20 degrees out into the aisle so they're not crushed by my shoulders.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm curious if they 'd apply the 'person of size ' rule to ( for example ) an NFL player who is in NO SENSE obese , but with his massive physique and shoulders would obviously overflow the seat width parameters.I 'm 6'4 " , and a medium-build 290lbs , so when I see another guy my size sitting in the adjacent seat , I think we both cry a little .
I always take aisle seat , not for more legroom ( hahah , as if anyone 's knees bend sideways ) but so if some poor bastard IS stuck in the seat next to me , I can lean 20 degrees out into the aisle so they 're not crushed by my shoulders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm curious if they'd apply the 'person of size' rule to (for example) an NFL player who is in NO SENSE obese, but with his massive physique and shoulders would obviously overflow the seat width parameters.I'm 6'4", and a medium-build 290lbs, so when I see another guy my size sitting in the adjacent seat, I think we both cry a little.
I always take aisle seat, not for more legroom (hahah, as if anyone's knees bend sideways) but so if some poor bastard IS stuck in the seat next to me, I can lean 20 degrees out into the aisle so they're not crushed by my shoulders.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141804</id>
	<title>perfect procedures, imperfect systems</title>
	<author>mangodhamma</author>
	<datestamp>1266225180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kevin is not the victim of sizism, he - and you and I - are victims of a common feature of modern life: perfect procedures, imperfect systems. Issues of how many seats can an airline cram into a cabin and America's eating habits aside, the Southwest policy sounds pretty reasonable. Oversize passengers buy a second seat and get a refund if the plane isn't full. So how does it happen that Kevin get's so far along the chain of events that it causes everyone involved a lot of unnecessary pain and embarrassment? The captain who threw Kevin off the plane was enforcing a procedure. Nobody was taking any responsibility for the system. What happened when Kev bought his ticket? Did a screen come up - before the plug in your credit card number screen - warning Kev that if you're over a certain weight you have to buy two seats? What happened when Kev arrived at the check in counter? Are the check in staff blind? How hard is it to notice that man or woman is 'of size' and won't fit into a seat my eleven year old daughter can barely squeeze into (she's big for her age)? Isn't there a role here for the security staff? It IS a safety issue. Plane skids off the runway a large passenger will have difficulty getting down that rabbit trail called an aisle. Kevin's embarrassment, and the discomfort of his seatmates, could have been avoided at any of several steps along the way. But it wasn't, because everyone is responsible for a procedure, but no one is responsible for the system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kevin is not the victim of sizism , he - and you and I - are victims of a common feature of modern life : perfect procedures , imperfect systems .
Issues of how many seats can an airline cram into a cabin and America 's eating habits aside , the Southwest policy sounds pretty reasonable .
Oversize passengers buy a second seat and get a refund if the plane is n't full .
So how does it happen that Kevin get 's so far along the chain of events that it causes everyone involved a lot of unnecessary pain and embarrassment ?
The captain who threw Kevin off the plane was enforcing a procedure .
Nobody was taking any responsibility for the system .
What happened when Kev bought his ticket ?
Did a screen come up - before the plug in your credit card number screen - warning Kev that if you 're over a certain weight you have to buy two seats ?
What happened when Kev arrived at the check in counter ?
Are the check in staff blind ?
How hard is it to notice that man or woman is 'of size ' and wo n't fit into a seat my eleven year old daughter can barely squeeze into ( she 's big for her age ) ?
Is n't there a role here for the security staff ?
It IS a safety issue .
Plane skids off the runway a large passenger will have difficulty getting down that rabbit trail called an aisle .
Kevin 's embarrassment , and the discomfort of his seatmates , could have been avoided at any of several steps along the way .
But it was n't , because everyone is responsible for a procedure , but no one is responsible for the system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kevin is not the victim of sizism, he - and you and I - are victims of a common feature of modern life: perfect procedures, imperfect systems.
Issues of how many seats can an airline cram into a cabin and America's eating habits aside, the Southwest policy sounds pretty reasonable.
Oversize passengers buy a second seat and get a refund if the plane isn't full.
So how does it happen that Kevin get's so far along the chain of events that it causes everyone involved a lot of unnecessary pain and embarrassment?
The captain who threw Kevin off the plane was enforcing a procedure.
Nobody was taking any responsibility for the system.
What happened when Kev bought his ticket?
Did a screen come up - before the plug in your credit card number screen - warning Kev that if you're over a certain weight you have to buy two seats?
What happened when Kev arrived at the check in counter?
Are the check in staff blind?
How hard is it to notice that man or woman is 'of size' and won't fit into a seat my eleven year old daughter can barely squeeze into (she's big for her age)?
Isn't there a role here for the security staff?
It IS a safety issue.
Plane skids off the runway a large passenger will have difficulty getting down that rabbit trail called an aisle.
Kevin's embarrassment, and the discomfort of his seatmates, could have been avoided at any of several steps along the way.
But it wasn't, because everyone is responsible for a procedure, but no one is responsible for the system.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141370</id>
	<title>Re:awesome!</title>
	<author>Endo13</author>
	<datestamp>1266177180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The other problem with BMI is that it assumes everyone has the exact same bone density and skeletal proportions.</p><p>At what I know to be my ideal weight, my BMI still comes up as 29 - all but "obese". I'm not sure I could get to a "healthy" weight without killing myself first.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The other problem with BMI is that it assumes everyone has the exact same bone density and skeletal proportions.At what I know to be my ideal weight , my BMI still comes up as 29 - all but " obese " .
I 'm not sure I could get to a " healthy " weight without killing myself first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The other problem with BMI is that it assumes everyone has the exact same bone density and skeletal proportions.At what I know to be my ideal weight, my BMI still comes up as 29 - all but "obese".
I'm not sure I could get to a "healthy" weight without killing myself first.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137390</id>
	<title>They have been worked out</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266144240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you need two seats, buy two seats. He needs two seats (which he admits, because he usually does), but only bought one.</p><p>We're not picking on fat people. We're picking on people who steal from the people next to them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you need two seats , buy two seats .
He needs two seats ( which he admits , because he usually does ) , but only bought one.We 're not picking on fat people .
We 're picking on people who steal from the people next to them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you need two seats, buy two seats.
He needs two seats (which he admits, because he usually does), but only bought one.We're not picking on fat people.
We're picking on people who steal from the people next to them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136848</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136366</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>IdleTime</author>
	<datestamp>1266181020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why is he angry?<br> <br>
It's all his own fault! Stop shoving worthless crap into your pie hole, start exercising. If you are fat enough for the airline to have an issue with you, it should tell you all you need to know. Haviung problems fitting your ass into a plane seat? You are too fat, start loosing weight.<br> <br>
Bottoom line, fat asses of the world, it is your own fault for allowing yourself to blow up like a balloon. Nobody was forcing you to eat the shit you have. Take some fucking responsibility for your own fat ass first!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is he angry ?
It 's all his own fault !
Stop shoving worthless crap into your pie hole , start exercising .
If you are fat enough for the airline to have an issue with you , it should tell you all you need to know .
Haviung problems fitting your ass into a plane seat ?
You are too fat , start loosing weight .
Bottoom line , fat asses of the world , it is your own fault for allowing yourself to blow up like a balloon .
Nobody was forcing you to eat the shit you have .
Take some fucking responsibility for your own fat ass first !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is he angry?
It's all his own fault!
Stop shoving worthless crap into your pie hole, start exercising.
If you are fat enough for the airline to have an issue with you, it should tell you all you need to know.
Haviung problems fitting your ass into a plane seat?
You are too fat, start loosing weight.
Bottoom line, fat asses of the world, it is your own fault for allowing yourself to blow up like a balloon.
Nobody was forcing you to eat the shit you have.
Take some fucking responsibility for your own fat ass first!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31139198</id>
	<title>Bowling Shoes</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1266156600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bowling shoes come in different sizes, so why don't seats? <b>People are different sizes, deal with it!</b> Fuck "one size fits all". At least have a few larger seats reserved for larger passengers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bowling shoes come in different sizes , so why do n't seats ?
People are different sizes , deal with it !
Fuck " one size fits all " .
At least have a few larger seats reserved for larger passengers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bowling shoes come in different sizes, so why don't seats?
People are different sizes, deal with it!
Fuck "one size fits all".
At least have a few larger seats reserved for larger passengers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141566</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266265440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Spoken like a true skinny.  If you put as much effort into collecting knowledge as you do refusing to inculcate it into your fragile cognitive process, you might be better off.
<br> <br>
Oh, who am I kidding: your entire existence is based upon the premise of ignorance.  You do you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Spoken like a true skinny .
If you put as much effort into collecting knowledge as you do refusing to inculcate it into your fragile cognitive process , you might be better off .
Oh , who am I kidding : your entire existence is based upon the premise of ignorance .
You do you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spoken like a true skinny.
If you put as much effort into collecting knowledge as you do refusing to inculcate it into your fragile cognitive process, you might be better off.
Oh, who am I kidding: your entire existence is based upon the premise of ignorance.
You do you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138044</id>
	<title>Re:About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1266148860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Fat models"</p><p>Only if you are interested in profiting from selling clothes to fat people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Fat models " Only if you are interested in profiting from selling clothes to fat people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Fat models"Only if you are interested in profiting from selling clothes to fat people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31142884</id>
	<title>Since he was allowed to fly later ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266239640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since he was allowed to fly later<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I wonder exactly how big was that crap he left in the restroom?  Certainly, the standards hadn't changed or perhaps he was required to purchase 2 seats?</p><p>My sister is overly large, fat, if you will. She buys 2 seats when she flies and brings a seatbelt extension with her. She doesn't travel much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since he was allowed to fly later ... I wonder exactly how big was that crap he left in the restroom ?
Certainly , the standards had n't changed or perhaps he was required to purchase 2 seats ? My sister is overly large , fat , if you will .
She buys 2 seats when she flies and brings a seatbelt extension with her .
She does n't travel much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since he was allowed to fly later ... I wonder exactly how big was that crap he left in the restroom?
Certainly, the standards hadn't changed or perhaps he was required to purchase 2 seats?My sister is overly large, fat, if you will.
She buys 2 seats when she flies and brings a seatbelt extension with her.
She doesn't travel much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141412</id>
	<title>Finally, proper natural selection!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266177480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you&rsquo;re too fat, too dumb, too ugly, etc, then making your life easier, is unfair for <em>everybody else</em>.<br>Fair is, to treat everybody the same. Which means no special seats for fat people.</p><p>I&rsquo;m also quite round. But I don&rsquo;t expect the government to make up a law to force women to find that attractive.<br>I just have to either lose weight, or work harder. That&rsquo;s fair for all those who <em>already worked harder</em>, to not become fat.</p><p>Besides: Other than someone who is born with half a brain, looking like Quasimodo (who will really have a hard life), we can always just <em>eat less</em> (and stand the pain of getting used to it). He doesn&rsquo;t have that choice.</p><p>I wonder when &ldquo;political correct&rdquo; has become &ldquo;to discriminate against every healthy successful person&rdquo;...?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you    re too fat , too dumb , too ugly , etc , then making your life easier , is unfair for everybody else.Fair is , to treat everybody the same .
Which means no special seats for fat people.I    m also quite round .
But I don    t expect the government to make up a law to force women to find that attractive.I just have to either lose weight , or work harder .
That    s fair for all those who already worked harder , to not become fat.Besides : Other than someone who is born with half a brain , looking like Quasimodo ( who will really have a hard life ) , we can always just eat less ( and stand the pain of getting used to it ) .
He doesn    t have that choice.I wonder when    political correct    has become    to discriminate against every healthy successful person    ... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you’re too fat, too dumb, too ugly, etc, then making your life easier, is unfair for everybody else.Fair is, to treat everybody the same.
Which means no special seats for fat people.I’m also quite round.
But I don’t expect the government to make up a law to force women to find that attractive.I just have to either lose weight, or work harder.
That’s fair for all those who already worked harder, to not become fat.Besides: Other than someone who is born with half a brain, looking like Quasimodo (who will really have a hard life), we can always just eat less (and stand the pain of getting used to it).
He doesn’t have that choice.I wonder when “political correct” has become “to discriminate against every healthy successful person”...?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31172140</id>
	<title>To Fat to Fly...</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1265049360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sounds like the title to Micheal Moore's new mockumentry...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sounds like the title to Micheal Moore 's new mockumentry.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sounds like the title to Micheal Moore's new mockumentry...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137128</id>
	<title>Re:awesome!</title>
	<author>RML</author>
	<datestamp>1266142680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A 5'3", 170 lb (BMI=30) person like <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/77367764@N00/1459239412/in/set-72157602199008819/" title="flickr.com">this</a> [flickr.com] is not going to spill into your seat. For airline seat purposes straight weight is probably a better indicator than BMI.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A 5'3 " , 170 lb ( BMI = 30 ) person like this [ flickr.com ] is not going to spill into your seat .
For airline seat purposes straight weight is probably a better indicator than BMI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A 5'3", 170 lb (BMI=30) person like this [flickr.com] is not going to spill into your seat.
For airline seat purposes straight weight is probably a better indicator than BMI.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31139696</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266160020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you eat less than you consume, then your body will lower its metabolism to consume less, you wont necessarily lose weight. Its a fallacy to believe the human body behaves like a perfect heat engine, this is why lowering calorie intake by itself doesn't work, you need to trick the body into thinking that it doesn't NEED to store fat, eating regularly in small portions, and exercising to help FORCE the body to burn energy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you eat less than you consume , then your body will lower its metabolism to consume less , you wont necessarily lose weight .
Its a fallacy to believe the human body behaves like a perfect heat engine , this is why lowering calorie intake by itself does n't work , you need to trick the body into thinking that it does n't NEED to store fat , eating regularly in small portions , and exercising to help FORCE the body to burn energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you eat less than you consume, then your body will lower its metabolism to consume less, you wont necessarily lose weight.
Its a fallacy to believe the human body behaves like a perfect heat engine, this is why lowering calorie intake by itself doesn't work, you need to trick the body into thinking that it doesn't NEED to store fat, eating regularly in small portions, and exercising to help FORCE the body to burn energy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136462</id>
	<title>Streisand effect</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1266138480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
But profitable.
</p><p>
If anything, this will boost SWA sale.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But profitable .
If anything , this will boost SWA sale .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
But profitable.
If anything, this will boost SWA sale.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141056</id>
	<title>Re:Southwest Airlines "Customer of Size" Q&amp;A</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266173100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds a lot less like trying to screw fat people out of extra money, then trying to keep the skinny people next to them from complaining and SWA losing revenue that way</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds a lot less like trying to screw fat people out of extra money , then trying to keep the skinny people next to them from complaining and SWA losing revenue that way</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds a lot less like trying to screw fat people out of extra money, then trying to keep the skinny people next to them from complaining and SWA losing revenue that way</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137612</id>
	<title>Re:Yuh Huh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266145680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell me about it.  On a flight back from DC a month ago, I sat next to this enormous woman who fell asleep and put her enormous head on my shoulder. She apologized the first time when I got up and woke her but then promptly did it again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell me about it .
On a flight back from DC a month ago , I sat next to this enormous woman who fell asleep and put her enormous head on my shoulder .
She apologized the first time when I got up and woke her but then promptly did it again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell me about it.
On a flight back from DC a month ago, I sat next to this enormous woman who fell asleep and put her enormous head on my shoulder.
She apologized the first time when I got up and woke her but then promptly did it again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141740</id>
	<title>Re:Obesity is not always a choice.</title>
	<author>Endo13</author>
	<datestamp>1266267480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cool anecdote. Guess what - I've got one too.</p><p>My mom had Graves as well. They completely killed her thyroid. And you know what? She's in better physical shape than I am. Since that's happened to her, she's been at most 30 pounds overweight, before she decides she wants to get it back where it needs to be. Right now, she's maybe 5 over her minimum healthy weight.</p><p>End result - your weight is ALWAYS a choice. You can blame it on medical problems, genetics, or anything else you want. But in the end, it still boils down to a personal lack of discipline.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cool anecdote .
Guess what - I 've got one too.My mom had Graves as well .
They completely killed her thyroid .
And you know what ?
She 's in better physical shape than I am .
Since that 's happened to her , she 's been at most 30 pounds overweight , before she decides she wants to get it back where it needs to be .
Right now , she 's maybe 5 over her minimum healthy weight.End result - your weight is ALWAYS a choice .
You can blame it on medical problems , genetics , or anything else you want .
But in the end , it still boils down to a personal lack of discipline .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cool anecdote.
Guess what - I've got one too.My mom had Graves as well.
They completely killed her thyroid.
And you know what?
She's in better physical shape than I am.
Since that's happened to her, she's been at most 30 pounds overweight, before she decides she wants to get it back where it needs to be.
Right now, she's maybe 5 over her minimum healthy weight.End result - your weight is ALWAYS a choice.
You can blame it on medical problems, genetics, or anything else you want.
But in the end, it still boils down to a personal lack of discipline.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31139450</id>
	<title>Welcome to Fatfuck Air...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266158280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the logical solution to this whole mess is make all the seats larger and just charge a little more.  Mind you, planes are getting bigger and bigger, cramming more and more seats into a tin can.  So why not just have fewer seats per plane, make the seats and aisles wider, and charge a little more per seat?  Have a "big and tall" section on the plane, even if it's a couple rows, or hell, make a whole airline based on this...Fatfuck Air.</p><p>Seriously, I don't have a problem with fatasses sitting next to me on planes as long as they aren't being obnoxious or smell bad.  What I do have a problem with are screaming babies and kids that won't shut the fuck up the whole trip, or morons who tell me their life story, or if I'm on the aisle seat and have someone who is constantly in and out of their seat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the logical solution to this whole mess is make all the seats larger and just charge a little more .
Mind you , planes are getting bigger and bigger , cramming more and more seats into a tin can .
So why not just have fewer seats per plane , make the seats and aisles wider , and charge a little more per seat ?
Have a " big and tall " section on the plane , even if it 's a couple rows , or hell , make a whole airline based on this...Fatfuck Air.Seriously , I do n't have a problem with fatasses sitting next to me on planes as long as they are n't being obnoxious or smell bad .
What I do have a problem with are screaming babies and kids that wo n't shut the fuck up the whole trip , or morons who tell me their life story , or if I 'm on the aisle seat and have someone who is constantly in and out of their seat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the logical solution to this whole mess is make all the seats larger and just charge a little more.
Mind you, planes are getting bigger and bigger, cramming more and more seats into a tin can.
So why not just have fewer seats per plane, make the seats and aisles wider, and charge a little more per seat?
Have a "big and tall" section on the plane, even if it's a couple rows, or hell, make a whole airline based on this...Fatfuck Air.Seriously, I don't have a problem with fatasses sitting next to me on planes as long as they aren't being obnoxious or smell bad.
What I do have a problem with are screaming babies and kids that won't shut the fuck up the whole trip, or morons who tell me their life story, or if I'm on the aisle seat and have someone who is constantly in and out of their seat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140632</id>
	<title>We're gonna need a bigger seat</title>
	<author>kmoser</author>
	<datestamp>1266168060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why don't the airlines make a few "XL" sized seats, which they could even sell at a premium (like business class, only they'd be in coach)? If nobody paid extra, the airline would have to sell them at regular prices. That way people like Mr. Smith could reserve them (if they were still available).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't the airlines make a few " XL " sized seats , which they could even sell at a premium ( like business class , only they 'd be in coach ) ?
If nobody paid extra , the airline would have to sell them at regular prices .
That way people like Mr. Smith could reserve them ( if they were still available ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't the airlines make a few "XL" sized seats, which they could even sell at a premium (like business class, only they'd be in coach)?
If nobody paid extra, the airline would have to sell them at regular prices.
That way people like Mr. Smith could reserve them (if they were still available).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136394</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266138060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Hell yeah.  You squeeze the bottom of the waterbag, where would the water go?
</p><p>
Beside the wobble factor adds risk of destabilizing the plane.  Selfish fat asses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hell yeah .
You squeeze the bottom of the waterbag , where would the water go ?
Beside the wobble factor adds risk of destabilizing the plane .
Selfish fat asses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Hell yeah.
You squeeze the bottom of the waterbag, where would the water go?
Beside the wobble factor adds risk of destabilizing the plane.
Selfish fat asses.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136588</id>
	<title>Too Fat to Fly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266139260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fortunately for me, I'm not that big of a person.  6'3 and 210 - a touch overweight, but not enough to spill into the next seat.</p><p>Coach seats are not comfortable - for anyone, of any size.  I can understand the issue you may have if sitting next to an overweight person.  Heck, I'm usually uncomfortable enough when there are 2 skinny people beside me if I'm unlucky enough to get the bitch seat.... because the armrests always get taken by whomever gets their arm on it first, so I'm forced to suck my arms in or do the "my arm in front, yours in back" routine.</p><p>My wife is overweight.  She's not so much that she's massive, but it would be uncomfortable to sit beside her in coach.  On a recent flight, the person beside her made her feel horrible by muttering the whole time and not asking or talking to her about moving, or possibly me lifting the rest between us and having her scoot over.</p><p>This problem partly stems from people being overweight for seating conditions, and my wife was one of those people who is overweight enough to make you feel uncomfortable.  BUT - to help the situation, talk.  We're all on the plane together and have varying levels of frustration, but my wife has been laid up for a better part of 2 years with different medical conditions that do make it difficult for her to get to the gym.  She could tell you the why and what if you asked her, but instead you feel like making her feel even worse about herself, helping along the cycle.....</p><p>We're all stuck on these flights together people, and we all have our stresses when we hit that coach section of the plane.  It would be wonderful if we could all just do the best in the situation we're dealt - and perhaps, even offer up to swap seats etc if it would make you feel more comfortable.  There are things we can do for each other to make it a more enjoyable experience, but I guess it's easier to just bitch and moan about it......</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fortunately for me , I 'm not that big of a person .
6'3 and 210 - a touch overweight , but not enough to spill into the next seat.Coach seats are not comfortable - for anyone , of any size .
I can understand the issue you may have if sitting next to an overweight person .
Heck , I 'm usually uncomfortable enough when there are 2 skinny people beside me if I 'm unlucky enough to get the bitch seat.... because the armrests always get taken by whomever gets their arm on it first , so I 'm forced to suck my arms in or do the " my arm in front , yours in back " routine.My wife is overweight .
She 's not so much that she 's massive , but it would be uncomfortable to sit beside her in coach .
On a recent flight , the person beside her made her feel horrible by muttering the whole time and not asking or talking to her about moving , or possibly me lifting the rest between us and having her scoot over.This problem partly stems from people being overweight for seating conditions , and my wife was one of those people who is overweight enough to make you feel uncomfortable .
BUT - to help the situation , talk .
We 're all on the plane together and have varying levels of frustration , but my wife has been laid up for a better part of 2 years with different medical conditions that do make it difficult for her to get to the gym .
She could tell you the why and what if you asked her , but instead you feel like making her feel even worse about herself , helping along the cycle.....We 're all stuck on these flights together people , and we all have our stresses when we hit that coach section of the plane .
It would be wonderful if we could all just do the best in the situation we 're dealt - and perhaps , even offer up to swap seats etc if it would make you feel more comfortable .
There are things we can do for each other to make it a more enjoyable experience , but I guess it 's easier to just bitch and moan about it..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fortunately for me, I'm not that big of a person.
6'3 and 210 - a touch overweight, but not enough to spill into the next seat.Coach seats are not comfortable - for anyone, of any size.
I can understand the issue you may have if sitting next to an overweight person.
Heck, I'm usually uncomfortable enough when there are 2 skinny people beside me if I'm unlucky enough to get the bitch seat.... because the armrests always get taken by whomever gets their arm on it first, so I'm forced to suck my arms in or do the "my arm in front, yours in back" routine.My wife is overweight.
She's not so much that she's massive, but it would be uncomfortable to sit beside her in coach.
On a recent flight, the person beside her made her feel horrible by muttering the whole time and not asking or talking to her about moving, or possibly me lifting the rest between us and having her scoot over.This problem partly stems from people being overweight for seating conditions, and my wife was one of those people who is overweight enough to make you feel uncomfortable.
BUT - to help the situation, talk.
We're all on the plane together and have varying levels of frustration, but my wife has been laid up for a better part of 2 years with different medical conditions that do make it difficult for her to get to the gym.
She could tell you the why and what if you asked her, but instead you feel like making her feel even worse about herself, helping along the cycle.....We're all stuck on these flights together people, and we all have our stresses when we hit that coach section of the plane.
It would be wonderful if we could all just do the best in the situation we're dealt - and perhaps, even offer up to swap seats etc if it would make you feel more comfortable.
There are things we can do for each other to make it a more enjoyable experience, but I guess it's easier to just bitch and moan about it......</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140642</id>
	<title>Yes you are</title>
	<author>GoochOwnsYou</author>
	<datestamp>1266168180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So it seems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So it seems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it seems.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136242</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138026</id>
	<title>Re:About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1266148680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Instead of telling little timmy to not eat that fifth cheeseburger we just let him and then tell everyone to accept him for what he is and make special accomodations for him."</p><p>What I can't figure out is how timmy can eat five cheeseburgers when he's made of straw.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Instead of telling little timmy to not eat that fifth cheeseburger we just let him and then tell everyone to accept him for what he is and make special accomodations for him .
" What I ca n't figure out is how timmy can eat five cheeseburgers when he 's made of straw .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Instead of telling little timmy to not eat that fifth cheeseburger we just let him and then tell everyone to accept him for what he is and make special accomodations for him.
"What I can't figure out is how timmy can eat five cheeseburgers when he's made of straw.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136890</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140110</id>
	<title>From your mouth to God's ears...</title>
	<author>ElboRuum</author>
	<datestamp>1266163380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...only God must be a little deaf.</p><p>They're starting to make theater seats the same dimensions as coach seats.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...only God must be a little deaf.They 're starting to make theater seats the same dimensions as coach seats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...only God must be a little deaf.They're starting to make theater seats the same dimensions as coach seats.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136944</id>
	<title>Southwest's response</title>
	<author>Mr2001</author>
	<datestamp>1266141540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <a href="http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/not-so-silent-bob" title="blogsouthwest.com">link</a> [blogsouthwest.com] is slashdotted, but here's the text...</p><p>Not So Silent Bob<br>Sun, 02/14/2010 - 14:57 &mdash; Christi Day</p><p>Many of you reached out to us via Twitter last night and today regarding a situation a Customer Twittered about that occurred on a Southwest flight.  It is not our customary method of Customer Relations to be so public in how we work through these situations, but with so many people involved in the occurrence, you also should be involved in the solution. First and foremost, to Mr. Smith; we would like to echo our Tweets and again offer our heartfelt apologies to you.   We are sincerely sorry for your travel experience on Southwest Airlines.</p><p>As soon as we saw the first Tweet from Mr. Smith, we contacted him personally to apologize for his experience and to address his concerns on both Twitter and with a personal phone call. Since the situation has received a lot of public attention, we'd like to take the opportunity to address a few of the specifics here as well.</p><p>Mr. Smith originally purchased two Southwest seats on a flight from Oakland to Burbank &ndash; as he&rsquo;s been known to do when traveling on Southwest.  He decided to change his plans and board an earlier flight to Burbank, which technically means flying standby. As you may know, airlines are not able to clear standby passengers until all Customers are boarded. When the time came to board Mr. Smith, we had only a single seat available for him to occupy. Our pilots are responsible for the Safety and comfort of all Customers on the aircraft and therefore, made the determination that Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight. Our Employees explained why the decision was made, accommodated Mr. Smith on a later flight, and issued him a $100 Southwest travel voucher for his inconvenience.</p><p>You've read about these situations before. Southwest instituted our Customer of Size policy more than 25 years ago. The policy requires passengers that can not fit safely and comfortably in one seat to purchase an additional seat while traveling. This policy is not unique to Southwest Airlines and it is not a revenue generator. Most, if not all, carriers have similar policies, but unique to Southwest is the refunding of the second seat purchased (if the flight does not oversell) which is greater than any revenue made (full policy can be found here). The spirit of this policy is based solely on Customer comfort and Safety. As a Company committed to serving our Customers in Safety and comfort, we feel the definitive boundary between seats is the armrest. If a Customer cannot comfortably lower the armrest and infringes on a portion of another seat, a Customer seated adjacent would be very uncomfortable and a timely exit from the aircraft in the event of an emergency might be compromised if we allow a cramped, restricted seating arrangement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The link [ blogsouthwest.com ] is slashdotted , but here 's the text...Not So Silent BobSun , 02/14/2010 - 14 : 57    Christi DayMany of you reached out to us via Twitter last night and today regarding a situation a Customer Twittered about that occurred on a Southwest flight .
It is not our customary method of Customer Relations to be so public in how we work through these situations , but with so many people involved in the occurrence , you also should be involved in the solution .
First and foremost , to Mr. Smith ; we would like to echo our Tweets and again offer our heartfelt apologies to you .
We are sincerely sorry for your travel experience on Southwest Airlines.As soon as we saw the first Tweet from Mr. Smith , we contacted him personally to apologize for his experience and to address his concerns on both Twitter and with a personal phone call .
Since the situation has received a lot of public attention , we 'd like to take the opportunity to address a few of the specifics here as well.Mr .
Smith originally purchased two Southwest seats on a flight from Oakland to Burbank    as he    s been known to do when traveling on Southwest .
He decided to change his plans and board an earlier flight to Burbank , which technically means flying standby .
As you may know , airlines are not able to clear standby passengers until all Customers are boarded .
When the time came to board Mr. Smith , we had only a single seat available for him to occupy .
Our pilots are responsible for the Safety and comfort of all Customers on the aircraft and therefore , made the determination that Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight .
Our Employees explained why the decision was made , accommodated Mr. Smith on a later flight , and issued him a $ 100 Southwest travel voucher for his inconvenience.You 've read about these situations before .
Southwest instituted our Customer of Size policy more than 25 years ago .
The policy requires passengers that can not fit safely and comfortably in one seat to purchase an additional seat while traveling .
This policy is not unique to Southwest Airlines and it is not a revenue generator .
Most , if not all , carriers have similar policies , but unique to Southwest is the refunding of the second seat purchased ( if the flight does not oversell ) which is greater than any revenue made ( full policy can be found here ) .
The spirit of this policy is based solely on Customer comfort and Safety .
As a Company committed to serving our Customers in Safety and comfort , we feel the definitive boundary between seats is the armrest .
If a Customer can not comfortably lower the armrest and infringes on a portion of another seat , a Customer seated adjacent would be very uncomfortable and a timely exit from the aircraft in the event of an emergency might be compromised if we allow a cramped , restricted seating arrangement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The link [blogsouthwest.com] is slashdotted, but here's the text...Not So Silent BobSun, 02/14/2010 - 14:57 — Christi DayMany of you reached out to us via Twitter last night and today regarding a situation a Customer Twittered about that occurred on a Southwest flight.
It is not our customary method of Customer Relations to be so public in how we work through these situations, but with so many people involved in the occurrence, you also should be involved in the solution.
First and foremost, to Mr. Smith; we would like to echo our Tweets and again offer our heartfelt apologies to you.
We are sincerely sorry for your travel experience on Southwest Airlines.As soon as we saw the first Tweet from Mr. Smith, we contacted him personally to apologize for his experience and to address his concerns on both Twitter and with a personal phone call.
Since the situation has received a lot of public attention, we'd like to take the opportunity to address a few of the specifics here as well.Mr.
Smith originally purchased two Southwest seats on a flight from Oakland to Burbank – as he’s been known to do when traveling on Southwest.
He decided to change his plans and board an earlier flight to Burbank, which technically means flying standby.
As you may know, airlines are not able to clear standby passengers until all Customers are boarded.
When the time came to board Mr. Smith, we had only a single seat available for him to occupy.
Our pilots are responsible for the Safety and comfort of all Customers on the aircraft and therefore, made the determination that Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight.
Our Employees explained why the decision was made, accommodated Mr. Smith on a later flight, and issued him a $100 Southwest travel voucher for his inconvenience.You've read about these situations before.
Southwest instituted our Customer of Size policy more than 25 years ago.
The policy requires passengers that can not fit safely and comfortably in one seat to purchase an additional seat while traveling.
This policy is not unique to Southwest Airlines and it is not a revenue generator.
Most, if not all, carriers have similar policies, but unique to Southwest is the refunding of the second seat purchased (if the flight does not oversell) which is greater than any revenue made (full policy can be found here).
The spirit of this policy is based solely on Customer comfort and Safety.
As a Company committed to serving our Customers in Safety and comfort, we feel the definitive boundary between seats is the armrest.
If a Customer cannot comfortably lower the armrest and infringes on a portion of another seat, a Customer seated adjacent would be very uncomfortable and a timely exit from the aircraft in the event of an emergency might be compromised if we allow a cramped, restricted seating arrangement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141950</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266226980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you made any argument besides name-calling, you might be taken seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you made any argument besides name-calling , you might be taken seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you made any argument besides name-calling, you might be taken seriously.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140450</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140488</id>
	<title>Re:awesome!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266166980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmmm, she isn't going to spill over into my seat?  Then I want a refund, she can sit in my lap any time she wants!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm , she is n't going to spill over into my seat ?
Then I want a refund , she can sit in my lap any time she wants !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm, she isn't going to spill over into my seat?
Then I want a refund, she can sit in my lap any time she wants!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137128</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137504</id>
	<title>No sympathy - he should stop being a glutton</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266145080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't have much sympathy for all these fattys. They are everywhere - but there seem to be more in certain parts of America than anywhere else. When I am an the states and I see all these ridiculouly large SUVs I always think it they bought it to haul around some ridiculously fat ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have much sympathy for all these fattys .
They are everywhere - but there seem to be more in certain parts of America than anywhere else .
When I am an the states and I see all these ridiculouly large SUVs I always think it they bought it to haul around some ridiculously fat ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have much sympathy for all these fattys.
They are everywhere - but there seem to be more in certain parts of America than anywhere else.
When I am an the states and I see all these ridiculouly large SUVs I always think it they bought it to haul around some ridiculously fat ass.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136524</id>
	<title>Here's what really happened ...</title>
	<author>tomhudson</author>
	<datestamp>1266138840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Here's what really happened.
</p><p>
The pilot, a registered Republican, woke up from his nap (pilots cat-nap as much as they can because of the new budget-saving schedules), saw the guy, and mistook him for Michael Moore.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's what really happened .
The pilot , a registered Republican , woke up from his nap ( pilots cat-nap as much as they can because of the new budget-saving schedules ) , saw the guy , and mistook him for Michael Moore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Here's what really happened.
The pilot, a registered Republican, woke up from his nap (pilots cat-nap as much as they can because of the new budget-saving schedules), saw the guy, and mistook him for Michael Moore.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137470</id>
	<title>Re:About all those "serves him right" posts...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266144780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its a bit different for your own airline to call you a fatty-fat-fat, than telling your own son or daughter to stop eating the pringles. SW Airlines have a policy, their pilot went against it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its a bit different for your own airline to call you a fatty-fat-fat , than telling your own son or daughter to stop eating the pringles .
SW Airlines have a policy , their pilot went against it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its a bit different for your own airline to call you a fatty-fat-fat, than telling your own son or daughter to stop eating the pringles.
SW Airlines have a policy, their pilot went against it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136890</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136600</id>
	<title>To fat to fly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266139320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then loose some damn weight or purchase two seats.  I'm not fat but have flown on planes many times where the fat person next to me spills into my seat.  The one I'm paying full price for.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then loose some damn weight or purchase two seats .
I 'm not fat but have flown on planes many times where the fat person next to me spills into my seat .
The one I 'm paying full price for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then loose some damn weight or purchase two seats.
I'm not fat but have flown on planes many times where the fat person next to me spills into my seat.
The one I'm paying full price for.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140588</id>
	<title>That Would Be</title>
	<author>PingPongBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1266167640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The more common wording is "Too big to fail", which can be used to mean "Too big to whatever". Too big for anything is not a good thing these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The more common wording is " Too big to fail " , which can be used to mean " Too big to whatever " .
Too big for anything is not a good thing these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The more common wording is "Too big to fail", which can be used to mean "Too big to whatever".
Too big for anything is not a good thing these days.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140234</id>
	<title>Go Fuck Yourself, SouthWest Airlines</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266164520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kevin Smith's side of the story is up if you care to give it a listen <a href="http://smodcast.com/smods/smodcast106.html" title="smodcast.com" rel="nofollow">http://smodcast.com/smods/smodcast106.html</a> [smodcast.com] . It sounds like there are some pretty big douchebags working at SouthWestAir.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kevin Smith 's side of the story is up if you care to give it a listen http : //smodcast.com/smods/smodcast106.html [ smodcast.com ] .
It sounds like there are some pretty big douchebags working at SouthWestAir .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kevin Smith's side of the story is up if you care to give it a listen http://smodcast.com/smods/smodcast106.html [smodcast.com] .
It sounds like there are some pretty big douchebags working at SouthWestAir.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138904</id>
	<title>Re:It's on?</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1266154560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, I saw my weight as too much.  So, I solved the problem.  I did it by ignoring all the advice that is considered 'common sense' like 'Eat less, exercise more'.  I tend to be a lot more sympathetic to people about it because being a geek, I understand that the vast majority of people believe what 'experts' tell them.  Even when it flys in the face of all empirical evidence.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I saw my weight as too much .
So , I solved the problem .
I did it by ignoring all the advice that is considered 'common sense ' like 'Eat less , exercise more' .
I tend to be a lot more sympathetic to people about it because being a geek , I understand that the vast majority of people believe what 'experts ' tell them .
Even when it flys in the face of all empirical evidence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I saw my weight as too much.
So, I solved the problem.
I did it by ignoring all the advice that is considered 'common sense' like 'Eat less, exercise more'.
I tend to be a lot more sympathetic to people about it because being a geek, I understand that the vast majority of people believe what 'experts' tell them.
Even when it flys in the face of all empirical evidence.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136690</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31140220</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266164400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My 5'2", 100lb mother-in-law complains that they've made the seats too small to be comfortable</p><p>I call BULLSHIT</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My 5'2 " , 100lb mother-in-law complains that they 've made the seats too small to be comfortableI call BULLSHIT</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My 5'2", 100lb mother-in-law complains that they've made the seats too small to be comfortableI call BULLSHIT</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137380</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31139754</id>
	<title>Fat/Obesity of Human Evolution???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266160500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, according to the survival of the fittest... the fit survive and the weak die off, right?</p><p>So we have a trend where people "weigh more than they should", right?</p><p>But if we admit it is evolution since it is an inbred trait... for most of use...</p><p>Shouldn't obesity not be a problem but just evolution in action?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , according to the survival of the fittest... the fit survive and the weak die off , right ? So we have a trend where people " weigh more than they should " , right ? But if we admit it is evolution since it is an inbred trait... for most of use...Should n't obesity not be a problem but just evolution in action ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, according to the survival of the fittest... the fit survive and the weak die off, right?So we have a trend where people "weigh more than they should", right?But if we admit it is evolution since it is an inbred trait... for most of use...Shouldn't obesity not be a problem but just evolution in action?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136454</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266138420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IIRC, airline regulations require that a passenger be in THEIR seat. If you're sitting next to a morbidly obese person, and they annoy you, just ask them to stay in their space. If they cannot, and it bothers you a lot, call a stewardess and explain that you understand your rights, and wish her to enforce them. At this point, the person who cannot remain in their seat will either be assigned a new one or forced to deplane. If you're fat, and upset by this--suck it up. You did not pay for the space the other passenger is in. THEY did.</p><p>C//</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IIRC , airline regulations require that a passenger be in THEIR seat .
If you 're sitting next to a morbidly obese person , and they annoy you , just ask them to stay in their space .
If they can not , and it bothers you a lot , call a stewardess and explain that you understand your rights , and wish her to enforce them .
At this point , the person who can not remain in their seat will either be assigned a new one or forced to deplane .
If you 're fat , and upset by this--suck it up .
You did not pay for the space the other passenger is in .
THEY did.C//</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IIRC, airline regulations require that a passenger be in THEIR seat.
If you're sitting next to a morbidly obese person, and they annoy you, just ask them to stay in their space.
If they cannot, and it bothers you a lot, call a stewardess and explain that you understand your rights, and wish her to enforce them.
At this point, the person who cannot remain in their seat will either be assigned a new one or forced to deplane.
If you're fat, and upset by this--suck it up.
You did not pay for the space the other passenger is in.
THEY did.C//</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136254</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138464</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266151620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The basic design of the 737 has been static for decades.  The latest varients do carry noteably more passengers, but they are also larger than the older planes.</p><p>The SWA fleet seems to be inline seating wise with the older variants.</p><p>So tell me how are they packing "cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle" on these places when the seating arraingements is for all intents ans purposes the same as it was in the 80's and 90's?</p><p>No coach seat on any plane has ever been remotely close to the size of a movie theater seat (which in my opinion are not all that big).</p><p>Want a big seat?  You can get one, but it costs alot more or will cost you about 20000 miles.  Or take the train - those coach seats are huge, and a fat ass like Kevin smith should probably stick to the train anyway.</p><p>Thank god for SWA for having a reaonsable policy wrt these fat fucks.  I had some damn beast in my lap on a United flight once - the round trip voucher was not enough for that damn sweaty thigh in my lap from LAX to Honolulu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The basic design of the 737 has been static for decades .
The latest varients do carry noteably more passengers , but they are also larger than the older planes.The SWA fleet seems to be inline seating wise with the older variants.So tell me how are they packing " cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle " on these places when the seating arraingements is for all intents ans purposes the same as it was in the 80 's and 90 's ? No coach seat on any plane has ever been remotely close to the size of a movie theater seat ( which in my opinion are not all that big ) .Want a big seat ?
You can get one , but it costs alot more or will cost you about 20000 miles .
Or take the train - those coach seats are huge , and a fat ass like Kevin smith should probably stick to the train anyway.Thank god for SWA for having a reaonsable policy wrt these fat fucks .
I had some damn beast in my lap on a United flight once - the round trip voucher was not enough for that damn sweaty thigh in my lap from LAX to Honolulu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The basic design of the 737 has been static for decades.
The latest varients do carry noteably more passengers, but they are also larger than the older planes.The SWA fleet seems to be inline seating wise with the older variants.So tell me how are they packing "cramming so many people into their cargo hold it would make a slave trader of old boggle" on these places when the seating arraingements is for all intents ans purposes the same as it was in the 80's and 90's?No coach seat on any plane has ever been remotely close to the size of a movie theater seat (which in my opinion are not all that big).Want a big seat?
You can get one, but it costs alot more or will cost you about 20000 miles.
Or take the train - those coach seats are huge, and a fat ass like Kevin smith should probably stick to the train anyway.Thank god for SWA for having a reaonsable policy wrt these fat fucks.
I had some damn beast in my lap on a United flight once - the round trip voucher was not enough for that damn sweaty thigh in my lap from LAX to Honolulu.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31142022</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>jimicus</author>
	<datestamp>1266227880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How about this for an answer? Let's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away.</p></div><p>It's a nice idea, however it's far too late.  The simple fact of the matter is that the aviation industry is run on razor-thin profit margins, and it doesn't cost much less to run a plane with 200 seats which take up X amount of space versus a plane with 240 seats which take up (X * 0.8) amount of space.</p><p>It follows that reducing the number and increasing the size of the seats would whack up ticket prices for each flight on such an aircraft considerably.  And frankly, economy class seats from A to B are essentially a commodity item - nobody's buying them on the basis of quality because the perception is that there's little difference among the major airlines.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about this for an answer ?
Let 's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away.It 's a nice idea , however it 's far too late .
The simple fact of the matter is that the aviation industry is run on razor-thin profit margins , and it does n't cost much less to run a plane with 200 seats which take up X amount of space versus a plane with 240 seats which take up ( X * 0.8 ) amount of space.It follows that reducing the number and increasing the size of the seats would whack up ticket prices for each flight on such an aircraft considerably .
And frankly , economy class seats from A to B are essentially a commodity item - nobody 's buying them on the basis of quality because the perception is that there 's little difference among the major airlines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about this for an answer?
Let's make airline seats the same size and legroom as movie theater seats and see if the problem goes away.It's a nice idea, however it's far too late.
The simple fact of the matter is that the aviation industry is run on razor-thin profit margins, and it doesn't cost much less to run a plane with 200 seats which take up X amount of space versus a plane with 240 seats which take up (X * 0.8) amount of space.It follows that reducing the number and increasing the size of the seats would whack up ticket prices for each flight on such an aircraft considerably.
And frankly, economy class seats from A to B are essentially a commodity item - nobody's buying them on the basis of quality because the perception is that there's little difference among the major airlines.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31141990</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>boxwood</author>
	<datestamp>1266227400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you know there is a thing called "business class" which has the larger seats yo desire? Of but you want a cheap fare too? How do you think the fares got to be cheap?</p><p>I fly on discount arilines all the time, and the space is adequate for me. Good enough that I wouldn't pay extra for more space. Don't like it? Then do some research and find an airline that gives you more space.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you know there is a thing called " business class " which has the larger seats yo desire ?
Of but you want a cheap fare too ?
How do you think the fares got to be cheap ? I fly on discount arilines all the time , and the space is adequate for me .
Good enough that I would n't pay extra for more space .
Do n't like it ?
Then do some research and find an airline that gives you more space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you know there is a thing called "business class" which has the larger seats yo desire?
Of but you want a cheap fare too?
How do you think the fares got to be cheap?I fly on discount arilines all the time, and the space is adequate for me.
Good enough that I wouldn't pay extra for more space.
Don't like it?
Then do some research and find an airline that gives you more space.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31138450</id>
	<title>Re:Kevin Smith is not the problem.</title>
	<author>TheTyrannyOfForcedRe</author>
	<datestamp>1266151620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It <i>is possible</i> to get movie theater space on an airplane today.  It's called first class and/or business class.  What the hell is Kevin Smith doing in coach anyway?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is possible to get movie theater space on an airplane today .
It 's called first class and/or business class .
What the hell is Kevin Smith doing in coach anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is possible to get movie theater space on an airplane today.
It's called first class and/or business class.
What the hell is Kevin Smith doing in coach anyway?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31142848</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>drsquare</author>
	<datestamp>1266239100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Genetics is the biggest factor in peoples weight.</p></div></blockquote><p>I thought genetics took thousands of years to change, yet obesity has exploded over a few decades. Are people in Somalia that genetically different to Americans?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Genetics is the biggest factor in peoples weight.I thought genetics took thousands of years to change , yet obesity has exploded over a few decades .
Are people in Somalia that genetically different to Americans ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Genetics is the biggest factor in peoples weight.I thought genetics took thousands of years to change, yet obesity has exploded over a few decades.
Are people in Somalia that genetically different to Americans?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31142218</id>
	<title>Looks like someone needs Jillian Michaels!!</title>
	<author>twoblink</author>
	<datestamp>1266230700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry Kevin Smith, but looks like you aren't the biggest loser...  At some point, airlines have to draw the line.  If you are 800+lbs, should they let you on?  Stop blaming others because you are fat..  Your hatred and bitterness only stems from the fact that you are fat and don't have the guts to go on "The Biggest Loser".</p><p>Here's a word of advice..  Both Jillian Michaels and Bob Harper are great, give them a call!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry Kevin Smith , but looks like you are n't the biggest loser... At some point , airlines have to draw the line .
If you are 800 + lbs , should they let you on ?
Stop blaming others because you are fat.. Your hatred and bitterness only stems from the fact that you are fat and do n't have the guts to go on " The Biggest Loser " .Here 's a word of advice.. Both Jillian Michaels and Bob Harper are great , give them a call !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry Kevin Smith, but looks like you aren't the biggest loser...  At some point, airlines have to draw the line.
If you are 800+lbs, should they let you on?
Stop blaming others because you are fat..  Your hatred and bitterness only stems from the fact that you are fat and don't have the guts to go on "The Biggest Loser".Here's a word of advice..  Both Jillian Michaels and Bob Harper are great, give them a call!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137098</id>
	<title>Porkers should pay.</title>
	<author>XB-70</author>
	<datestamp>1266142500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm clinically obese. I'm 5'10" and I weigh 220 lbs. I should weigh about 175. Lugging an extra 45 lbs. up to 30,000 feet is a helluva waste of fuel. Anyone who has ever flown in a small plane knows that you have to balance the plane out and be very concerned about weight allowance before takeoff. Kevin Smith should just suck it up and take his lumps on his rolls. It's time we charged porkers like him and me for not pushing away from the table. Until then, pass me the Cheetos and kindly fuck off with all your politically correct whining and moaning.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm clinically obese .
I 'm 5'10 " and I weigh 220 lbs .
I should weigh about 175 .
Lugging an extra 45 lbs .
up to 30,000 feet is a helluva waste of fuel .
Anyone who has ever flown in a small plane knows that you have to balance the plane out and be very concerned about weight allowance before takeoff .
Kevin Smith should just suck it up and take his lumps on his rolls .
It 's time we charged porkers like him and me for not pushing away from the table .
Until then , pass me the Cheetos and kindly fuck off with all your politically correct whining and moaning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm clinically obese.
I'm 5'10" and I weigh 220 lbs.
I should weigh about 175.
Lugging an extra 45 lbs.
up to 30,000 feet is a helluva waste of fuel.
Anyone who has ever flown in a small plane knows that you have to balance the plane out and be very concerned about weight allowance before takeoff.
Kevin Smith should just suck it up and take his lumps on his rolls.
It's time we charged porkers like him and me for not pushing away from the table.
Until then, pass me the Cheetos and kindly fuck off with all your politically correct whining and moaning.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31137626</id>
	<title>Re:I have sat next to these guys.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266145800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Contrary to what simple minded people think, eating more doesn't not directly link to being fatter, and eating less does not directly link to being thinner.  In fact, it is quite often the case that eating less will make you gain weight.<br> <br>

Genetics is the biggest factor in peoples weight.  Their genes will make them hover to some genetically determined weight.  People who's genes push them to a reletively small weight, are not doing anybody any good, and just being an ass when they complain that the person who's genes push them to a 300lb weight eat too much.  Having genes that will put you 10 pounds over weight if you don't exercise, and eat total crap, is in no way the same thing as having genes that will put you 100 or more pounds over weight.
<br> <br>
Of course, when the answer is "Yes" to the genetic/environment question (which is generally the case), that does mean that environment is a factor.  One of the big problems people have is that our health/medical/food industry has decided that everyone should eat a low calorie and primarily sugar diet.  This is fine for some people, as that is what their genetics has determined their body needs.  This is not what MOST people need.  They take a few people who's body work under the low calorie and sugar diet, and hold them up as proof that that is a good diet.  Many MANY people will be thinner and healthier with a higher calorie, high fat/protein, low sugar diet.
<br> <br>
Now, I don't know if you've ever tried to actually cut most of the sugar out of your diet (I assume you have not based on your post), but unless you live in your mother's basement and are never actually away from home during meal times, it is very difficult to keep away from the sugar.  Very few restaurants have low or no sugar menu items.  It is also rare to have low or no suger food served during lunch breaks at meetings, at parties, or at other people's homes.
<br> <br>
Exercise is the another myth.  Many people will not burn any significant amount of fat from exercise.  For the many peole who's bodies decide to release fat as energy based on diet, and not on activity, exercising, while likely to make them healthier, will not make them smaller.  It will make them larger and more tired.  When you exercise, you muscles grow.  This means you get bigger.  Now, for the lucky, their bodies do not aggressively hold on to energy by storing it as fat.  These people will lose fat by exercising.  For others, their bodies react to the extra exercise as an indication that their bodies energy needs are going up, and thus become even more aggressive at storing any spare energy consumed as fat.
<br> <br>
So, the answer isn't "Hey fatty, eat less, exercise more.", as that is just as likely to make him FATTER.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Contrary to what simple minded people think , eating more does n't not directly link to being fatter , and eating less does not directly link to being thinner .
In fact , it is quite often the case that eating less will make you gain weight .
Genetics is the biggest factor in peoples weight .
Their genes will make them hover to some genetically determined weight .
People who 's genes push them to a reletively small weight , are not doing anybody any good , and just being an ass when they complain that the person who 's genes push them to a 300lb weight eat too much .
Having genes that will put you 10 pounds over weight if you do n't exercise , and eat total crap , is in no way the same thing as having genes that will put you 100 or more pounds over weight .
Of course , when the answer is " Yes " to the genetic/environment question ( which is generally the case ) , that does mean that environment is a factor .
One of the big problems people have is that our health/medical/food industry has decided that everyone should eat a low calorie and primarily sugar diet .
This is fine for some people , as that is what their genetics has determined their body needs .
This is not what MOST people need .
They take a few people who 's body work under the low calorie and sugar diet , and hold them up as proof that that is a good diet .
Many MANY people will be thinner and healthier with a higher calorie , high fat/protein , low sugar diet .
Now , I do n't know if you 've ever tried to actually cut most of the sugar out of your diet ( I assume you have not based on your post ) , but unless you live in your mother 's basement and are never actually away from home during meal times , it is very difficult to keep away from the sugar .
Very few restaurants have low or no sugar menu items .
It is also rare to have low or no suger food served during lunch breaks at meetings , at parties , or at other people 's homes .
Exercise is the another myth .
Many people will not burn any significant amount of fat from exercise .
For the many peole who 's bodies decide to release fat as energy based on diet , and not on activity , exercising , while likely to make them healthier , will not make them smaller .
It will make them larger and more tired .
When you exercise , you muscles grow .
This means you get bigger .
Now , for the lucky , their bodies do not aggressively hold on to energy by storing it as fat .
These people will lose fat by exercising .
For others , their bodies react to the extra exercise as an indication that their bodies energy needs are going up , and thus become even more aggressive at storing any spare energy consumed as fat .
So , the answer is n't " Hey fatty , eat less , exercise more .
" , as that is just as likely to make him FATTER .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Contrary to what simple minded people think, eating more doesn't not directly link to being fatter, and eating less does not directly link to being thinner.
In fact, it is quite often the case that eating less will make you gain weight.
Genetics is the biggest factor in peoples weight.
Their genes will make them hover to some genetically determined weight.
People who's genes push them to a reletively small weight, are not doing anybody any good, and just being an ass when they complain that the person who's genes push them to a 300lb weight eat too much.
Having genes that will put you 10 pounds over weight if you don't exercise, and eat total crap, is in no way the same thing as having genes that will put you 100 or more pounds over weight.
Of course, when the answer is "Yes" to the genetic/environment question (which is generally the case), that does mean that environment is a factor.
One of the big problems people have is that our health/medical/food industry has decided that everyone should eat a low calorie and primarily sugar diet.
This is fine for some people, as that is what their genetics has determined their body needs.
This is not what MOST people need.
They take a few people who's body work under the low calorie and sugar diet, and hold them up as proof that that is a good diet.
Many MANY people will be thinner and healthier with a higher calorie, high fat/protein, low sugar diet.
Now, I don't know if you've ever tried to actually cut most of the sugar out of your diet (I assume you have not based on your post), but unless you live in your mother's basement and are never actually away from home during meal times, it is very difficult to keep away from the sugar.
Very few restaurants have low or no sugar menu items.
It is also rare to have low or no suger food served during lunch breaks at meetings, at parties, or at other people's homes.
Exercise is the another myth.
Many people will not burn any significant amount of fat from exercise.
For the many peole who's bodies decide to release fat as energy based on diet, and not on activity, exercising, while likely to make them healthier, will not make them smaller.
It will make them larger and more tired.
When you exercise, you muscles grow.
This means you get bigger.
Now, for the lucky, their bodies do not aggressively hold on to energy by storing it as fat.
These people will lose fat by exercising.
For others, their bodies react to the extra exercise as an indication that their bodies energy needs are going up, and thus become even more aggressive at storing any spare energy consumed as fat.
So, the answer isn't "Hey fatty, eat less, exercise more.
", as that is just as likely to make him FATTER.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136650</id>
	<title>Get off the plane Fat ASS!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266139560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get off the plane Fat ASS!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get off the plane Fat ASS !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get off the plane Fat ASS!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_1840243.31136848</id>
	<title>FFS!</title>
	<author>migla</author>
	<datestamp>1266140820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just work this out. Let everyone fly if they want to. Stop picking on fat people. Yes there are practical hurdles or considerations. Just work them out. Sheesh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just work this out .
Let everyone fly if they want to .
Stop picking on fat people .
Yes there are practical hurdles or considerations .
Just work them out .
Sheesh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just work this out.
Let everyone fly if they want to.
Stop picking on fat people.
Yes there are practical hurdles or considerations.
Just work them out.
Sheesh.</sentencetext>
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