<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_13_1317249</id>
	<title>The Wi-Fi On the Bus</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1266069420000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>theodp writes <i>"For students who endure hundreds of hours on a school bus each year in a desert exurb of Tucson, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/12/education/12bus.html?em">the Wi-Fi on the bus</a> improves the ride. Last fall, school officials mounted a $200 mobile Internet router from <a href="http://www.autonetmobile.com/">Autonet Mobile</a> to bus No. 92's sheet-metal frame, enabling students to surf the Web. What began as a hi-tech experiment has had an unexpected result &mdash; Wi-Fi has transformed the formerly boisterous bus rides into a rolling study hall, and behavioral problems have virtually disappeared. '<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/02/12/us/12bus\_CA0.html">Boys aren't hitting each other</a>, girls are busy, and there's not so much jumping around,' said J. J. Johnson, the Internet Bus driver."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>theodp writes " For students who endure hundreds of hours on a school bus each year in a desert exurb of Tucson , the Wi-Fi on the bus improves the ride .
Last fall , school officials mounted a $ 200 mobile Internet router from Autonet Mobile to bus No .
92 's sheet-metal frame , enabling students to surf the Web .
What began as a hi-tech experiment has had an unexpected result    Wi-Fi has transformed the formerly boisterous bus rides into a rolling study hall , and behavioral problems have virtually disappeared .
'Boys are n't hitting each other , girls are busy , and there 's not so much jumping around, ' said J. J. Johnson , the Internet Bus driver .
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<sentencetext>theodp writes "For students who endure hundreds of hours on a school bus each year in a desert exurb of Tucson, the Wi-Fi on the bus improves the ride.
Last fall, school officials mounted a $200 mobile Internet router from Autonet Mobile to bus No.
92's sheet-metal frame, enabling students to surf the Web.
What began as a hi-tech experiment has had an unexpected result — Wi-Fi has transformed the formerly boisterous bus rides into a rolling study hall, and behavioral problems have virtually disappeared.
'Boys aren't hitting each other, girls are busy, and there's not so much jumping around,' said J. J. Johnson, the Internet Bus driver.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126800</id>
	<title>Benefit of Online Social Networking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266075420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The kids never actually have to interact with one another.  Problem solved.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The kids never actually have to interact with one another .
Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The kids never actually have to interact with one another.
Problem solved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31131850</id>
	<title>Sedating our children, one status update at a time</title>
	<author>zero\_out</author>
	<datestamp>1266074880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who needs ritalin when you've got wi-fi on the bus?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who needs ritalin when you 've got wi-fi on the bus ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who needs ritalin when you've got wi-fi on the bus?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127848</id>
	<title>Re:sounds ominous</title>
	<author>subsonic</author>
	<datestamp>1266083460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly.  We'll just "distract them from the bad behavior" rather than engaging with the kids and doing the tough thing of disciplining kids who are acting bad and maybe trying to build up kids' confidence and sense of ownership of their actions and respect for their peers.  That actually takes fundamental hard work and time investment.  We can just throw up WAPs and shut the kids up and they learn/improve nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
We 'll just " distract them from the bad behavior " rather than engaging with the kids and doing the tough thing of disciplining kids who are acting bad and maybe trying to build up kids ' confidence and sense of ownership of their actions and respect for their peers .
That actually takes fundamental hard work and time investment .
We can just throw up WAPs and shut the kids up and they learn/improve nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
We'll just "distract them from the bad behavior" rather than engaging with the kids and doing the tough thing of disciplining kids who are acting bad and maybe trying to build up kids' confidence and sense of ownership of their actions and respect for their peers.
That actually takes fundamental hard work and time investment.
We can just throw up WAPs and shut the kids up and they learn/improve nothing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126654</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127906</id>
	<title>The three screens.</title>
	<author>irright</author>
	<datestamp>1266084000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now THAT'S the opiate of the masses.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now THAT 'S the opiate of the masses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now THAT'S the opiate of the masses.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31132126</id>
	<title>Secure enough for Porn... right?</title>
	<author>BadAndyJ</author>
	<datestamp>1266078300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh Gizz...
Come on everyone.  On a $200 router you figure you've got all the security locked down for these kids.  On computers the KIDS own, you can't lock down shit. How did that song go again. Oh yeah "The Internet is for PORN"
The boys arn't beating on one another 'cause they're beating themselves!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh Gizz.. . Come on everyone .
On a $ 200 router you figure you 've got all the security locked down for these kids .
On computers the KIDS own , you ca n't lock down shit .
How did that song go again .
Oh yeah " The Internet is for PORN " The boys ar n't beating on one another 'cause they 're beating themselves !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh Gizz...
Come on everyone.
On a $200 router you figure you've got all the security locked down for these kids.
On computers the KIDS own, you can't lock down shit.
How did that song go again.
Oh yeah "The Internet is for PORN"
The boys arn't beating on one another 'cause they're beating themselves!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31135094</id>
	<title>Re:A rolling study hall?</title>
	<author>ResidentSourcerer</author>
	<datestamp>1266169380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The girls are on facebook, chatting about the guys.  The guys will wait for study hall and school to be on facebook.  Right now they are in the back of the bus on porn sites.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The girls are on facebook , chatting about the guys .
The guys will wait for study hall and school to be on facebook .
Right now they are in the back of the bus on porn sites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The girls are on facebook, chatting about the guys.
The guys will wait for study hall and school to be on facebook.
Right now they are in the back of the bus on porn sites.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126628</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126854</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266075780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds great! Growing up in a mixed suburban / rural environment, I had to endure an hour-long bus ride each way every day for the first three years of high school until, finally, the county added a second high school 15 minutes from my house in my senior year. Of course, by this point, I had gotten my first car, so I no longer had to ride the bus anyway. I spent those hour-long bus rides the first 3 years of HS sleeping with my walkman on- it sure beat staying awake from 6-7am every morning riding on the bus. I can only imagine what fun I might have had with a system like this in place - not that I would necessarily use it for educational purposes, but it sure would have helped to fill that long, boring ride with something more productive than sleep.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds great !
Growing up in a mixed suburban / rural environment , I had to endure an hour-long bus ride each way every day for the first three years of high school until , finally , the county added a second high school 15 minutes from my house in my senior year .
Of course , by this point , I had gotten my first car , so I no longer had to ride the bus anyway .
I spent those hour-long bus rides the first 3 years of HS sleeping with my walkman on- it sure beat staying awake from 6-7am every morning riding on the bus .
I can only imagine what fun I might have had with a system like this in place - not that I would necessarily use it for educational purposes , but it sure would have helped to fill that long , boring ride with something more productive than sleep .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds great!
Growing up in a mixed suburban / rural environment, I had to endure an hour-long bus ride each way every day for the first three years of high school until, finally, the county added a second high school 15 minutes from my house in my senior year.
Of course, by this point, I had gotten my first car, so I no longer had to ride the bus anyway.
I spent those hour-long bus rides the first 3 years of HS sleeping with my walkman on- it sure beat staying awake from 6-7am every morning riding on the bus.
I can only imagine what fun I might have had with a system like this in place - not that I would necessarily use it for educational purposes, but it sure would have helped to fill that long, boring ride with something more productive than sleep.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128372</id>
	<title>.SE's ASEA did this on trains in mid-1980's</title>
	<author>ivi</author>
	<datestamp>1266087240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a great story (ie, if the WiFi is reliable, across the trip to school), but we just want to point out that a similar "work on the trip" scheme was available to ASEA employees traveling from Stockeholm &amp; the ASEA company town (whose Swedish name escapes me, for the moment).</p><p>Workstations - desks with FAXes, computers &amp; phones, from all reports - were available on special passenger cars on each AM &amp; PM train, so that staff could catch-up or finish-up as they commuted.</p><p>(Of course, this was before WiFi, so, FAXes would have worked via the mobile network.)</p><p>PS ASEA was the company that had the 1-person, doorless "non-stop elevator"... to go up or down, just hop-in (as the slowly elevator passed the hole in the wall, next to the elevator buttons.</p><p>Note: Be sure to hop out, ie, before the loop of elevator cars took you over the top of the vertical loop! (I suppose, if you didn't, a safety-device would stop the whole loop - eg, to preclude injury, but - in the process - stop the others, as they tried to shave a few seconds off their up/down travel time...)</p><p>"Second wise, minute foolish"?</p><p>Maybe... but at least they innovated in that era!<br>(It might have saved some electricity, eg, in a busy building.)</p><p>Does any past ASEA insider have details of the (pre-'Net) net-savings (or otherwise) brought by either of these innovations?</p><p>Do any current [ABB] runs of the Vaesteraas train still offer such workstations, eg, with Internet connectivity, or other additions?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a great story ( ie , if the WiFi is reliable , across the trip to school ) , but we just want to point out that a similar " work on the trip " scheme was available to ASEA employees traveling from Stockeholm &amp; the ASEA company town ( whose Swedish name escapes me , for the moment ) .Workstations - desks with FAXes , computers &amp; phones , from all reports - were available on special passenger cars on each AM &amp; PM train , so that staff could catch-up or finish-up as they commuted .
( Of course , this was before WiFi , so , FAXes would have worked via the mobile network .
) PS ASEA was the company that had the 1-person , doorless " non-stop elevator " ... to go up or down , just hop-in ( as the slowly elevator passed the hole in the wall , next to the elevator buttons.Note : Be sure to hop out , ie , before the loop of elevator cars took you over the top of the vertical loop !
( I suppose , if you did n't , a safety-device would stop the whole loop - eg , to preclude injury , but - in the process - stop the others , as they tried to shave a few seconds off their up/down travel time... ) " Second wise , minute foolish " ? Maybe... but at least they innovated in that era !
( It might have saved some electricity , eg , in a busy building .
) Does any past ASEA insider have details of the ( pre-'Net ) net-savings ( or otherwise ) brought by either of these innovations ? Do any current [ ABB ] runs of the Vaesteraas train still offer such workstations , eg , with Internet connectivity , or other additions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a great story (ie, if the WiFi is reliable, across the trip to school), but we just want to point out that a similar "work on the trip" scheme was available to ASEA employees traveling from Stockeholm &amp; the ASEA company town (whose Swedish name escapes me, for the moment).Workstations - desks with FAXes, computers &amp; phones, from all reports - were available on special passenger cars on each AM &amp; PM train, so that staff could catch-up or finish-up as they commuted.
(Of course, this was before WiFi, so, FAXes would have worked via the mobile network.
)PS ASEA was the company that had the 1-person, doorless "non-stop elevator"... to go up or down, just hop-in (as the slowly elevator passed the hole in the wall, next to the elevator buttons.Note: Be sure to hop out, ie, before the loop of elevator cars took you over the top of the vertical loop!
(I suppose, if you didn't, a safety-device would stop the whole loop - eg, to preclude injury, but - in the process - stop the others, as they tried to shave a few seconds off their up/down travel time...)"Second wise, minute foolish"?Maybe... but at least they innovated in that era!
(It might have saved some electricity, eg, in a busy building.
)Does any past ASEA insider have details of the (pre-'Net) net-savings (or otherwise) brought by either of these innovations?Do any current [ABB] runs of the Vaesteraas train still offer such workstations, eg, with Internet connectivity, or other additions?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31130596</id>
	<title>Re:behavioral problems have virtually disappeared</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1266061380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I find it healthier for a bunch of kid to be noisy and hyperactive (even if this involves occasionally hitting each other)</p></div><p>I hate it when people invoke Columbine, but... almost anything which reduces bullying is a good thing. If I'd had access to a gun when I was being bullied at Harbor High School in Santa Cruz, California, a practice essentially <em>encouraged</em> by the faculty who would single out people like me for negative attention, I'd have happily used it. It had got to the point where it was physically hard for me to get out of bed because I knew what I was going into. Anything short of abuse of the bullies would have been positive. Unfortunately, nothing was ever actually done. I assume the situation persists to this day. Public school is child abuse of a particularly insidious sort because even those who are not bullied are conditioned.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it healthier for a bunch of kid to be noisy and hyperactive ( even if this involves occasionally hitting each other ) I hate it when people invoke Columbine , but... almost anything which reduces bullying is a good thing .
If I 'd had access to a gun when I was being bullied at Harbor High School in Santa Cruz , California , a practice essentially encouraged by the faculty who would single out people like me for negative attention , I 'd have happily used it .
It had got to the point where it was physically hard for me to get out of bed because I knew what I was going into .
Anything short of abuse of the bullies would have been positive .
Unfortunately , nothing was ever actually done .
I assume the situation persists to this day .
Public school is child abuse of a particularly insidious sort because even those who are not bullied are conditioned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it healthier for a bunch of kid to be noisy and hyperactive (even if this involves occasionally hitting each other)I hate it when people invoke Columbine, but... almost anything which reduces bullying is a good thing.
If I'd had access to a gun when I was being bullied at Harbor High School in Santa Cruz, California, a practice essentially encouraged by the faculty who would single out people like me for negative attention, I'd have happily used it.
It had got to the point where it was physically hard for me to get out of bed because I knew what I was going into.
Anything short of abuse of the bullies would have been positive.
Unfortunately, nothing was ever actually done.
I assume the situation persists to this day.
Public school is child abuse of a particularly insidious sort because even those who are not bullied are conditioned.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126648</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126592</id>
	<title>Not good.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266073200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; 'Boys aren't hitting each other, girls are busy, and there's not so much<br>&gt; jumping around,'</p><p>This is not good (but then neither are public schools).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; 'Boys are n't hitting each other , girls are busy , and there 's not so much &gt; jumping around,'This is not good ( but then neither are public schools ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; 'Boys aren't hitting each other, girls are busy, and there's not so much&gt; jumping around,'This is not good (but then neither are public schools).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127556</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266081300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You cannot possibly be a parent.  The Wii, DS2, PS2 and any other gaming system we have had in this house has caused nothing but infighting and sabotage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can not possibly be a parent .
The Wii , DS2 , PS2 and any other gaming system we have had in this house has caused nothing but infighting and sabotage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You cannot possibly be a parent.
The Wii, DS2, PS2 and any other gaming system we have had in this house has caused nothing but infighting and sabotage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126666</id>
	<title>Embrace the power of porn...</title>
	<author>Manip</author>
	<datestamp>1266073920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The boys are all looking at porn, and the girls are on social networks discussing how to get their boy's attention or how to make themselves look nicer than the professional porn stars...</p><p>In all seriousness however, in ten years I imagine that the internet will be accessible in every location and being unable to access the internet in the middle of the desert or on top of a mountain will result in some serious complaints to the phone companies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The boys are all looking at porn , and the girls are on social networks discussing how to get their boy 's attention or how to make themselves look nicer than the professional porn stars...In all seriousness however , in ten years I imagine that the internet will be accessible in every location and being unable to access the internet in the middle of the desert or on top of a mountain will result in some serious complaints to the phone companies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The boys are all looking at porn, and the girls are on social networks discussing how to get their boy's attention or how to make themselves look nicer than the professional porn stars...In all seriousness however, in ten years I imagine that the internet will be accessible in every location and being unable to access the internet in the middle of the desert or on top of a mountain will result in some serious complaints to the phone companies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127378</id>
	<title>New Policy Needed</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1266080160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>       It is an outrage that students get stuck on school buses for hundreds of hours each year. We need laws that assign students to the closest school available and also laws that requite counties to build schools that serve every area as best as can be done. I am aware that Texas sprawls quite a bit and Arizona surely has similar problems. But we see students in highly urban areas who still are on busses for three hours a day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is an outrage that students get stuck on school buses for hundreds of hours each year .
We need laws that assign students to the closest school available and also laws that requite counties to build schools that serve every area as best as can be done .
I am aware that Texas sprawls quite a bit and Arizona surely has similar problems .
But we see students in highly urban areas who still are on busses for three hours a day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>       It is an outrage that students get stuck on school buses for hundreds of hours each year.
We need laws that assign students to the closest school available and also laws that requite counties to build schools that serve every area as best as can be done.
I am aware that Texas sprawls quite a bit and Arizona surely has similar problems.
But we see students in highly urban areas who still are on busses for three hours a day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127022</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Dan541</author>
	<datestamp>1266077400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are learning to run a virtual farm on facebook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are learning to run a virtual farm on facebook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are learning to run a virtual farm on facebook.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126726</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31161964</id>
	<title>Re:Secure enough for Porn... right?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266323160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was in high school a decade and change ago, the internet connection simply filtered through a proxy that removed unapproved sites. There was no getting around that without finding out where the server was, breaking into the room, breaking into the server, and removing the filter software. So it really doesn't matter what they use to access it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in high school a decade and change ago , the internet connection simply filtered through a proxy that removed unapproved sites .
There was no getting around that without finding out where the server was , breaking into the room , breaking into the server , and removing the filter software .
So it really does n't matter what they use to access it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in high school a decade and change ago, the internet connection simply filtered through a proxy that removed unapproved sites.
There was no getting around that without finding out where the server was, breaking into the room, breaking into the server, and removing the filter software.
So it really doesn't matter what they use to access it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31132126</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127844</id>
	<title>As Al Gore Would Say...</title>
	<author>Thelasko</author>
	<datestamp>1266083460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This bus is on the information superhighway!</htmltext>
<tokenext>This bus is on the information superhighway !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This bus is on the information superhighway!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128422</id>
	<title>Maybe not a rolling study hall...</title>
	<author>chuckwilson</author>
	<datestamp>1266087600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...but was I the only one racing to get homework done the morning before school? This could be a good opportunity for all the procrastinators to get that last bit of homework done.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but was I the only one racing to get homework done the morning before school ?
This could be a good opportunity for all the procrastinators to get that last bit of homework done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but was I the only one racing to get homework done the morning before school?
This could be a good opportunity for all the procrastinators to get that last bit of homework done.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127636</id>
	<title>Bad Idea</title>
	<author>BlackHawk-666</author>
	<datestamp>1266081780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some say your school years are the best years of your life, but that's really looking through rose tinted glasses. There's bullying, isolation, social discomfit, inferiority complexes, and all manner of other things. There are good things too, and for most of us it's the friends we make at school.</p><p>I agree with the general consensus, those kids aren't studying up for the next exam - they're on Facebook /  Twitter / Myspace or downloading pr0n. Now, what they should be doing instead of placing a bloody great big laptop shaped barrier between themselves and the other kids is SOCIALISING with the group of people that will most likely be their friends from here till death. Who are your friends in middle age? It's your school chums and work mates for many. Any new barrier between them and you is a potential lifelong loss of friendship.</p><p>Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to Facebook to see what my old school friends and previous work mates are chatting about today.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some say your school years are the best years of your life , but that 's really looking through rose tinted glasses .
There 's bullying , isolation , social discomfit , inferiority complexes , and all manner of other things .
There are good things too , and for most of us it 's the friends we make at school.I agree with the general consensus , those kids are n't studying up for the next exam - they 're on Facebook / Twitter / Myspace or downloading pr0n .
Now , what they should be doing instead of placing a bloody great big laptop shaped barrier between themselves and the other kids is SOCIALISING with the group of people that will most likely be their friends from here till death .
Who are your friends in middle age ?
It 's your school chums and work mates for many .
Any new barrier between them and you is a potential lifelong loss of friendship.Now if you 'll excuse me , I 'm off to Facebook to see what my old school friends and previous work mates are chatting about today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some say your school years are the best years of your life, but that's really looking through rose tinted glasses.
There's bullying, isolation, social discomfit, inferiority complexes, and all manner of other things.
There are good things too, and for most of us it's the friends we make at school.I agree with the general consensus, those kids aren't studying up for the next exam - they're on Facebook /  Twitter / Myspace or downloading pr0n.
Now, what they should be doing instead of placing a bloody great big laptop shaped barrier between themselves and the other kids is SOCIALISING with the group of people that will most likely be their friends from here till death.
Who are your friends in middle age?
It's your school chums and work mates for many.
Any new barrier between them and you is a potential lifelong loss of friendship.Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to Facebook to see what my old school friends and previous work mates are chatting about today.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31132892</id>
	<title>Re:sounds ominous</title>
	<author>ikarigullwing</author>
	<datestamp>1266089400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That strip makes me cry, I remember Calvin and Hobbes with great fondness and to think of him denying his best friend.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;.;</htmltext>
<tokenext>That strip makes me cry , I remember Calvin and Hobbes with great fondness and to think of him denying his best friend .
; . ;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That strip makes me cry, I remember Calvin and Hobbes with great fondness and to think of him denying his best friend.
;.;</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31129312</id>
	<title>Re:A rolling study hall?</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1266094500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Probably.  But I doubt they were studying on the bus before the WiFi anyways, so it's a wash.
<p>
That said, within a few years I bet WiFi will be moot anyways since all those devices will have mobile broadband from the cell network anyways.  At the conferences and meetings I attend, hunting around for WiFi has become really passe; people have mobile broadband cards for their laptop, or just do everything on their blackberry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably .
But I doubt they were studying on the bus before the WiFi anyways , so it 's a wash . That said , within a few years I bet WiFi will be moot anyways since all those devices will have mobile broadband from the cell network anyways .
At the conferences and meetings I attend , hunting around for WiFi has become really passe ; people have mobile broadband cards for their laptop , or just do everything on their blackberry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably.
But I doubt they were studying on the bus before the WiFi anyways, so it's a wash.

That said, within a few years I bet WiFi will be moot anyways since all those devices will have mobile broadband from the cell network anyways.
At the conferences and meetings I attend, hunting around for WiFi has become really passe; people have mobile broadband cards for their laptop, or just do everything on their blackberry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127386</id>
	<title>Re:Meh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266080220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Americans spent hundreds of dollars installing wifi and purchasing netbooks to keep their kids quiet. The Russians just used a roll of duct tape.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Americans spent hundreds of dollars installing wifi and purchasing netbooks to keep their kids quiet .
The Russians just used a roll of duct tape .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Americans spent hundreds of dollars installing wifi and purchasing netbooks to keep their kids quiet.
The Russians just used a roll of duct tape.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31129574</id>
	<title>Re:Not good.</title>
	<author>colmore</author>
	<datestamp>1266053220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing like the hypnotic effects of glowing rectangles to lull the children into a dull trance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing like the hypnotic effects of glowing rectangles to lull the children into a dull trance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing like the hypnotic effects of glowing rectangles to lull the children into a dull trance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126906</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1266076080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's not one minute of my childhood I wished I'd be crammed in a bus being forced to sit still and shut up because it builds character and patience.</p><p>Life is short. Wasting away your life because you think you have so much of it is one of the worst things you can do.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/says the guy posting on slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's not one minute of my childhood I wished I 'd be crammed in a bus being forced to sit still and shut up because it builds character and patience.Life is short .
Wasting away your life because you think you have so much of it is one of the worst things you can do .
/says the guy posting on slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's not one minute of my childhood I wished I'd be crammed in a bus being forced to sit still and shut up because it builds character and patience.Life is short.
Wasting away your life because you think you have so much of it is one of the worst things you can do.
/says the guy posting on slashdot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31129184</id>
	<title>The bullying will not stop</title>
	<author>benchbri</author>
	<datestamp>1266093600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All it will take is for a couple of the geeks, nerds and ~wads to fire up World Of Warcraft or start up a torrent client and saturate the bandwidth.</p><p>The bullies will realize this and will then do what they do best.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All it will take is for a couple of the geeks , nerds and ~ wads to fire up World Of Warcraft or start up a torrent client and saturate the bandwidth.The bullies will realize this and will then do what they do best .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All it will take is for a couple of the geeks, nerds and ~wads to fire up World Of Warcraft or start up a torrent client and saturate the bandwidth.The bullies will realize this and will then do what they do best.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128944</id>
	<title>Are people missing the point?</title>
	<author>VertigoMan</author>
	<datestamp>1266091560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well in this case it's a 70min bus ride each direction to a digital school.  This school issues every student a laptop instead of the old standard heavy text books.  No problem with some students not having laptops.  These high school students spend more then 2 hours each day on the bus.  Some live on ranches and most likely have a long list of chores to do at home as well, I know I did when I lived on a ranch.</p><p>I agree that not all the kids are going to be doing something productive with the internet, the artical even talks about that, but the ones not being productive are not bothering the ones that are.  Think of it as a library setting where the kids are waiting to be picked up, this one just happens to be rolling.</p><p>For those that think the cost is too much.  Consider this is only being used on an extremely long route, one bus and that I highly doubt they are paying for the service over the summer.  And for those that say being rowdy on the bus is part of growing up.  It was just that rowdiness that caused an accident when I was on a bus ages ago.  The driver looked up into the mirror to see a fight breaking out and hit a parked car.  The bus is not the place to be rowdy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well in this case it 's a 70min bus ride each direction to a digital school .
This school issues every student a laptop instead of the old standard heavy text books .
No problem with some students not having laptops .
These high school students spend more then 2 hours each day on the bus .
Some live on ranches and most likely have a long list of chores to do at home as well , I know I did when I lived on a ranch.I agree that not all the kids are going to be doing something productive with the internet , the artical even talks about that , but the ones not being productive are not bothering the ones that are .
Think of it as a library setting where the kids are waiting to be picked up , this one just happens to be rolling.For those that think the cost is too much .
Consider this is only being used on an extremely long route , one bus and that I highly doubt they are paying for the service over the summer .
And for those that say being rowdy on the bus is part of growing up .
It was just that rowdiness that caused an accident when I was on a bus ages ago .
The driver looked up into the mirror to see a fight breaking out and hit a parked car .
The bus is not the place to be rowdy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well in this case it's a 70min bus ride each direction to a digital school.
This school issues every student a laptop instead of the old standard heavy text books.
No problem with some students not having laptops.
These high school students spend more then 2 hours each day on the bus.
Some live on ranches and most likely have a long list of chores to do at home as well, I know I did when I lived on a ranch.I agree that not all the kids are going to be doing something productive with the internet, the artical even talks about that, but the ones not being productive are not bothering the ones that are.
Think of it as a library setting where the kids are waiting to be picked up, this one just happens to be rolling.For those that think the cost is too much.
Consider this is only being used on an extremely long route, one bus and that I highly doubt they are paying for the service over the summer.
And for those that say being rowdy on the bus is part of growing up.
It was just that rowdiness that caused an accident when I was on a bus ages ago.
The driver looked up into the mirror to see a fight breaking out and hit a parked car.
The bus is not the place to be rowdy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128114</id>
	<title>Re:sounds ominous</title>
	<author>gad\_zuki!</author>
	<datestamp>1266085500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;But on reading the article, I can't help but compare it to medicating a kid so he doesn't run around as much and so he's docile and well behaved and compliant and conforming. That's scary to me.</p><p>Yeah, heaven forbid we give people tools to help their boredom. I live in a major city and riding the bus is the most mind-numbing thing I can do. I usually play with my phone but would prefer a faster connection or a laptop.  If you want to "medicate" someone, but them on a bus without a bus or a computer.</p><p>Funny how there's this bullshit double-standard. If we put a TV on there or said "teens spend 8 hour watching The Hills" no one would be saying anything like "oh noes they is medicating our chillrenzz!!!" They would see it as normal. But give them a two-way technology like the web, then suddenly everyone is concerned. Funny how that works. If theyre not passive viewers of lowest common level drivel and commecial watchers, its suddenly a problem. I would prefer them to use the internet and have choice. Sorry grandpa, but the internet is not going away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; But on reading the article , I ca n't help but compare it to medicating a kid so he does n't run around as much and so he 's docile and well behaved and compliant and conforming .
That 's scary to me.Yeah , heaven forbid we give people tools to help their boredom .
I live in a major city and riding the bus is the most mind-numbing thing I can do .
I usually play with my phone but would prefer a faster connection or a laptop .
If you want to " medicate " someone , but them on a bus without a bus or a computer.Funny how there 's this bullshit double-standard .
If we put a TV on there or said " teens spend 8 hour watching The Hills " no one would be saying anything like " oh noes they is medicating our chillrenzz ! ! !
" They would see it as normal .
But give them a two-way technology like the web , then suddenly everyone is concerned .
Funny how that works .
If theyre not passive viewers of lowest common level drivel and commecial watchers , its suddenly a problem .
I would prefer them to use the internet and have choice .
Sorry grandpa , but the internet is not going away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;But on reading the article, I can't help but compare it to medicating a kid so he doesn't run around as much and so he's docile and well behaved and compliant and conforming.
That's scary to me.Yeah, heaven forbid we give people tools to help their boredom.
I live in a major city and riding the bus is the most mind-numbing thing I can do.
I usually play with my phone but would prefer a faster connection or a laptop.
If you want to "medicate" someone, but them on a bus without a bus or a computer.Funny how there's this bullshit double-standard.
If we put a TV on there or said "teens spend 8 hour watching The Hills" no one would be saying anything like "oh noes they is medicating our chillrenzz!!!
" They would see it as normal.
But give them a two-way technology like the web, then suddenly everyone is concerned.
Funny how that works.
If theyre not passive viewers of lowest common level drivel and commecial watchers, its suddenly a problem.
I would prefer them to use the internet and have choice.
Sorry grandpa, but the internet is not going away.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127434</id>
	<title>Re:behavioral problems have virtually disappeared</title>
	<author>pak9rabid</author>
	<datestamp>1266080460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>well, that depends on what you consider a behavioral problem. I find it healthier for a bunch of kid to be noisy and hyperactive (even if this involves occasionally hitting each other) than to be all hunched down on their 7'' netbooks checking Facebook.</p></div><p>Well yano...this comes from the same organization that would rather have their kids hopped up on amphetamines than acting like kids.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>well , that depends on what you consider a behavioral problem .
I find it healthier for a bunch of kid to be noisy and hyperactive ( even if this involves occasionally hitting each other ) than to be all hunched down on their 7' ' netbooks checking Facebook.Well yano...this comes from the same organization that would rather have their kids hopped up on amphetamines than acting like kids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well, that depends on what you consider a behavioral problem.
I find it healthier for a bunch of kid to be noisy and hyperactive (even if this involves occasionally hitting each other) than to be all hunched down on their 7'' netbooks checking Facebook.Well yano...this comes from the same organization that would rather have their kids hopped up on amphetamines than acting like kids.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126940</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1266076560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"This is just so typical. Let's not teach children to behave, have patience. imagination, read books, or anything else. Let's just DISTRACT/ENTERTAIN them."</p><p>If the choice is between being a bullying beast and a zombie, zombify the little fuckers so they leave the smart kids alone!<br>BTW stop pretending that "teaching" them to behave is a fucking option without the ability to IMPOSE discipline which is what builds SELF discipline!</p><p>Getting them to sit down and shut up is a great accomplishment, and the smart kids can use the net access to their benefit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" This is just so typical .
Let 's not teach children to behave , have patience .
imagination , read books , or anything else .
Let 's just DISTRACT/ENTERTAIN them .
" If the choice is between being a bullying beast and a zombie , zombify the little fuckers so they leave the smart kids alone ! BTW stop pretending that " teaching " them to behave is a fucking option without the ability to IMPOSE discipline which is what builds SELF discipline ! Getting them to sit down and shut up is a great accomplishment , and the smart kids can use the net access to their benefit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"This is just so typical.
Let's not teach children to behave, have patience.
imagination, read books, or anything else.
Let's just DISTRACT/ENTERTAIN them.
"If the choice is between being a bullying beast and a zombie, zombify the little fuckers so they leave the smart kids alone!BTW stop pretending that "teaching" them to behave is a fucking option without the ability to IMPOSE discipline which is what builds SELF discipline!Getting them to sit down and shut up is a great accomplishment, and the smart kids can use the net access to their benefit.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127156</id>
	<title>Re:sounds ominous</title>
	<author>Sir\_Lewk</author>
	<datestamp>1266078540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://tinypic.com/fk5ctf.gif" title="tinypic.com">http://tinypic.com/fk5ctf.gif</a> [tinypic.com]</p><p>Scary indeed, and incredibly sad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //tinypic.com/fk5ctf.gif [ tinypic.com ] Scary indeed , and incredibly sad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://tinypic.com/fk5ctf.gif [tinypic.com]Scary indeed, and incredibly sad.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31131508</id>
	<title>Re:sounds ominous</title>
	<author>meta-monkey</author>
	<datestamp>1266071040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, it's awful to "medicate" kids with access to pretty much all the information in the world.  Terrible, terrible that they might spend their time <em>reading</em> and dare I say <em>writing</em> instead of punching each other.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's awful to " medicate " kids with access to pretty much all the information in the world .
Terrible , terrible that they might spend their time reading and dare I say writing instead of punching each other .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's awful to "medicate" kids with access to pretty much all the information in the world.
Terrible, terrible that they might spend their time reading and dare I say writing instead of punching each other.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126776</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266075060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>ust like good parenting...</p><p>Stick a TV/DS/Xbox infront of your kid and they act all perfect.</p><p>Can't wait for the virtual elementary school. Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.</p></div></blockquote><p>So what exactly should the bus driver be doing?  Isn't better if he can concentrate on driving the bus instead of disciplining kids?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ust like good parenting...Stick a TV/DS/Xbox infront of your kid and they act all perfect.Ca n't wait for the virtual elementary school .
Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.So what exactly should the bus driver be doing ?
Is n't better if he can concentrate on driving the bus instead of disciplining kids ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ust like good parenting...Stick a TV/DS/Xbox infront of your kid and they act all perfect.Can't wait for the virtual elementary school.
Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.So what exactly should the bus driver be doing?
Isn't better if he can concentrate on driving the bus instead of disciplining kids?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126958</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1266076800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pretty much depend on what they are doing while there, what you consider "education", and how much you consider education what they would be doing if that werent implemented. In any case, the main difference between internet and the things that parents put them at home, is that tv is not even interactive, and games are usually alone, no interaction with others.<br><br>Anyway, if they are so plugged at the bus, then at home they wouldnt be tv/ds/xbox, but pretty much at what they are doing at the bus.<br><br>BTW, i live in Uruguay, where most school children have an XO (and few days i read that they plan to give them to even younger kids), and there seem to be a trend to be quieter and plugged to them for some children at least. I hope that that kind of education don't have a clear negative effect (if it will be the end of childhood, please that be the A.C.Clarke version)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty much depend on what they are doing while there , what you consider " education " , and how much you consider education what they would be doing if that werent implemented .
In any case , the main difference between internet and the things that parents put them at home , is that tv is not even interactive , and games are usually alone , no interaction with others.Anyway , if they are so plugged at the bus , then at home they wouldnt be tv/ds/xbox , but pretty much at what they are doing at the bus.BTW , i live in Uruguay , where most school children have an XO ( and few days i read that they plan to give them to even younger kids ) , and there seem to be a trend to be quieter and plugged to them for some children at least .
I hope that that kind of education do n't have a clear negative effect ( if it will be the end of childhood , please that be the A.C.Clarke version )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty much depend on what they are doing while there, what you consider "education", and how much you consider education what they would be doing if that werent implemented.
In any case, the main difference between internet and the things that parents put them at home, is that tv is not even interactive, and games are usually alone, no interaction with others.Anyway, if they are so plugged at the bus, then at home they wouldnt be tv/ds/xbox, but pretty much at what they are doing at the bus.BTW, i live in Uruguay, where most school children have an XO (and few days i read that they plan to give them to even younger kids), and there seem to be a trend to be quieter and plugged to them for some children at least.
I hope that that kind of education don't have a clear negative effect (if it will be the end of childhood, please that be the A.C.Clarke version)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126654</id>
	<title>sounds ominous</title>
	<author>digitalhermit</author>
	<datestamp>1266073800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know, I know. This is robably a good thing. Kids fighting on a school bus is probably not the safest thing.  But on reading the article, I can't help but compare it to medicating a kid so he doesn't run around as much and so he's docile and well behaved and compliant and conforming.  That's scary to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know , I know .
This is robably a good thing .
Kids fighting on a school bus is probably not the safest thing .
But on reading the article , I ca n't help but compare it to medicating a kid so he does n't run around as much and so he 's docile and well behaved and compliant and conforming .
That 's scary to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know, I know.
This is robably a good thing.
Kids fighting on a school bus is probably not the safest thing.
But on reading the article, I can't help but compare it to medicating a kid so he doesn't run around as much and so he's docile and well behaved and compliant and conforming.
That's scary to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128082</id>
	<title>Re:A rolling study hall?</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1266085320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That was my first thought too: *"STUDY"*? ROFLOL!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That was my first thought too : * " STUDY " * ?
ROFLOL ! ! ! !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was my first thought too: *"STUDY"*?
ROFLOL!!!!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128646</id>
	<title>Re:Embrace the power of porn...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266089220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>how to make themselves look nicer than the professional porn stars</p></div><p>I know that in America, everyone says that that is bad.<br>But I also know, that in America, everyone <em>thinks</em> that that is good.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>how to make themselves look nicer than the professional porn starsI know that in America , everyone says that that is bad.But I also know , that in America , everyone thinks that that is good .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how to make themselves look nicer than the professional porn starsI know that in America, everyone says that that is bad.But I also know, that in America, everyone thinks that that is good.
:D
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128444</id>
	<title>Some issues...</title>
	<author>Paul Fernhout</author>
	<datestamp>1266087720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Notice how the character of the bus changed when it became a place with more learner-directed learning-and-playing-on-demand instead of just an extension of day prison. (This is not to advocate violent games for behavior control, of course.) But, as with all such reports, there is no acknowledgment of the bigger issues, or apologies for past trauma and pain caused by aspects of schooling and ignored. What about all those years of bus problems? Those are just ignored, even as they are admitted now that there is a possible solution. What about the implications about children having more control over what they do versus behavior problems including aggression? Again, ignored. Also, what are the political implications of schools controlling network access to children and logging everything they do? Also, ignored. What are the implications of some kids having computers and others not? Again, ignored. Granted, it's a short article, my question is not so much about the reporting as the schooling culture it might reflect.</p><p>There are negative issues for media like being indoors away from sunlight and vitamin D, issues of being sedentary (even on a bus), issues of problematical content, and issues of other displaced healthy activities. But those need to be weighed against benefits of media for education, creativity, connectedness, and empowerment. And that media landscape continues to change with new technologies or new understanding about health issues.</p><p>Some more thoughts on the general topic; rather than wi-fi on the bus, why not just give the school taxes directly to the parents to spend on their family in the free market based on their own unique needs?<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.pdfernhout.net/towards-a-post-scarcity-new-york-state-of-mind.html" title="pdfernhout.net">http://www.pdfernhout.net/towards-a-post-scarcity-new-york-state-of-mind.html</a> [pdfernhout.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Notice how the character of the bus changed when it became a place with more learner-directed learning-and-playing-on-demand instead of just an extension of day prison .
( This is not to advocate violent games for behavior control , of course .
) But , as with all such reports , there is no acknowledgment of the bigger issues , or apologies for past trauma and pain caused by aspects of schooling and ignored .
What about all those years of bus problems ?
Those are just ignored , even as they are admitted now that there is a possible solution .
What about the implications about children having more control over what they do versus behavior problems including aggression ?
Again , ignored .
Also , what are the political implications of schools controlling network access to children and logging everything they do ?
Also , ignored .
What are the implications of some kids having computers and others not ?
Again , ignored .
Granted , it 's a short article , my question is not so much about the reporting as the schooling culture it might reflect.There are negative issues for media like being indoors away from sunlight and vitamin D , issues of being sedentary ( even on a bus ) , issues of problematical content , and issues of other displaced healthy activities .
But those need to be weighed against benefits of media for education , creativity , connectedness , and empowerment .
And that media landscape continues to change with new technologies or new understanding about health issues.Some more thoughts on the general topic ; rather than wi-fi on the bus , why not just give the school taxes directly to the parents to spend on their family in the free market based on their own unique needs ?
    http : //www.pdfernhout.net/towards-a-post-scarcity-new-york-state-of-mind.html [ pdfernhout.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notice how the character of the bus changed when it became a place with more learner-directed learning-and-playing-on-demand instead of just an extension of day prison.
(This is not to advocate violent games for behavior control, of course.
) But, as with all such reports, there is no acknowledgment of the bigger issues, or apologies for past trauma and pain caused by aspects of schooling and ignored.
What about all those years of bus problems?
Those are just ignored, even as they are admitted now that there is a possible solution.
What about the implications about children having more control over what they do versus behavior problems including aggression?
Again, ignored.
Also, what are the political implications of schools controlling network access to children and logging everything they do?
Also, ignored.
What are the implications of some kids having computers and others not?
Again, ignored.
Granted, it's a short article, my question is not so much about the reporting as the schooling culture it might reflect.There are negative issues for media like being indoors away from sunlight and vitamin D, issues of being sedentary (even on a bus), issues of problematical content, and issues of other displaced healthy activities.
But those need to be weighed against benefits of media for education, creativity, connectedness, and empowerment.
And that media landscape continues to change with new technologies or new understanding about health issues.Some more thoughts on the general topic; rather than wi-fi on the bus, why not just give the school taxes directly to the parents to spend on their family in the free market based on their own unique needs?
    http://www.pdfernhout.net/towards-a-post-scarcity-new-york-state-of-mind.html [pdfernhout.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127596</id>
	<title>Re:Meh</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1266081540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>obligatory: <a href="http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/s/silence\_is\_golden-13203.jpg" title="paraorkut.com" rel="nofollow">Silence is golden</a> [paraorkut.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>obligatory : Silence is golden [ paraorkut.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>obligatory: Silence is golden [paraorkut.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126738</id>
	<title>Had nothing to do with the Ritalin?</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1266074520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know about this. I'd assume that if kids were behaving so wildly Internet access wouldn't help the situation. Kids would just beat each other up for mobile devices, surf for porn etc. Personally I think they've found a way to emit Ritalin waves via the wireless transmitter. Now please excuse me, I'm late to an appointment with the drycleaner. My tinfoil hat was getting rather dirty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about this .
I 'd assume that if kids were behaving so wildly Internet access would n't help the situation .
Kids would just beat each other up for mobile devices , surf for porn etc .
Personally I think they 've found a way to emit Ritalin waves via the wireless transmitter .
Now please excuse me , I 'm late to an appointment with the drycleaner .
My tinfoil hat was getting rather dirty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about this.
I'd assume that if kids were behaving so wildly Internet access wouldn't help the situation.
Kids would just beat each other up for mobile devices, surf for porn etc.
Personally I think they've found a way to emit Ritalin waves via the wireless transmitter.
Now please excuse me, I'm late to an appointment with the drycleaner.
My tinfoil hat was getting rather dirty.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31131148</id>
	<title>Re:sounds ominous</title>
	<author>digitalhermit</author>
	<datestamp>1266066840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I was bullied too. That's almost a given being a mixed-race, poor Chinese Jamaican with a facial tic, glasses, diminutive size, and a penchant for saying things without thinking of the reaction. I was hit in the ribs with a baseball bat because some kid hated that a dork like me caught a fly ball that he hit. I was thrown naked into the girls' locker room and I was the one who got in trouble for it.</p><p>But I finished high school, went to college, then realized that those simian, cheating, dead end schoolmates of mine didn't matter.</p><p>And why do I hate medication?  It's because in this age I would be the one given the medication, not the bullies.  They would medicate you too because some idiot counselor would believe it would be in your best interest. I concur that caring and attentive parents would solve many bullying cases, but it's precisely the lack of care and attention that precludes such bullies from getting medication.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I was bullied too .
That 's almost a given being a mixed-race , poor Chinese Jamaican with a facial tic , glasses , diminutive size , and a penchant for saying things without thinking of the reaction .
I was hit in the ribs with a baseball bat because some kid hated that a dork like me caught a fly ball that he hit .
I was thrown naked into the girls ' locker room and I was the one who got in trouble for it.But I finished high school , went to college , then realized that those simian , cheating , dead end schoolmates of mine did n't matter.And why do I hate medication ?
It 's because in this age I would be the one given the medication , not the bullies .
They would medicate you too because some idiot counselor would believe it would be in your best interest .
I concur that caring and attentive parents would solve many bullying cases , but it 's precisely the lack of care and attention that precludes such bullies from getting medication .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I was bullied too.
That's almost a given being a mixed-race, poor Chinese Jamaican with a facial tic, glasses, diminutive size, and a penchant for saying things without thinking of the reaction.
I was hit in the ribs with a baseball bat because some kid hated that a dork like me caught a fly ball that he hit.
I was thrown naked into the girls' locker room and I was the one who got in trouble for it.But I finished high school, went to college, then realized that those simian, cheating, dead end schoolmates of mine didn't matter.And why do I hate medication?
It's because in this age I would be the one given the medication, not the bullies.
They would medicate you too because some idiot counselor would believe it would be in your best interest.
I concur that caring and attentive parents would solve many bullying cases, but it's precisely the lack of care and attention that precludes such bullies from getting medication.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31133232</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266140400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just like good parenting...<br>Can't wait for the virtual elementary school. Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.</p></div><p>Shouldn't that be put the googles on?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like good parenting...Ca n't wait for the virtual elementary school .
Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.Should n't that be put the googles on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like good parenting...Can't wait for the virtual elementary school.
Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.Shouldn't that be put the googles on?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126914</id>
	<title>mental and social development</title>
	<author>arikol</author>
	<datestamp>1266076140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mental and social development is more that just studying.<br>Boys and girls use different methods to increase their social competence and one important element is their little fighting, shouting and jumping. The girls should also make noise and difficult towards each other. This is necessary. Educators should know this. Well, good educators, anyway.</p><p>And kids should not be studying on the bus at all. This attitude of "more TIME spent studying = better" needs to go the way of the Dodo. Socializing is probably even MORE important. And I know most of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. probably got beaten up on the school bus, but that was also a part of finding our social circle and knowing how to behave around jocks and other idiots. Part of the reason that you are an alpha geek is that you figured out that you don't have anything in common with those half-simian mooks on the school bus..</p><p>But seriously. BAD idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mental and social development is more that just studying.Boys and girls use different methods to increase their social competence and one important element is their little fighting , shouting and jumping .
The girls should also make noise and difficult towards each other .
This is necessary .
Educators should know this .
Well , good educators , anyway.And kids should not be studying on the bus at all .
This attitude of " more TIME spent studying = better " needs to go the way of the Dodo .
Socializing is probably even MORE important .
And I know most of / .
probably got beaten up on the school bus , but that was also a part of finding our social circle and knowing how to behave around jocks and other idiots .
Part of the reason that you are an alpha geek is that you figured out that you do n't have anything in common with those half-simian mooks on the school bus..But seriously .
BAD idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mental and social development is more that just studying.Boys and girls use different methods to increase their social competence and one important element is their little fighting, shouting and jumping.
The girls should also make noise and difficult towards each other.
This is necessary.
Educators should know this.
Well, good educators, anyway.And kids should not be studying on the bus at all.
This attitude of "more TIME spent studying = better" needs to go the way of the Dodo.
Socializing is probably even MORE important.
And I know most of /.
probably got beaten up on the school bus, but that was also a part of finding our social circle and knowing how to behave around jocks and other idiots.
Part of the reason that you are an alpha geek is that you figured out that you don't have anything in common with those half-simian mooks on the school bus..But seriously.
BAD idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126874</id>
	<title>$200 router, $720/year for service</title>
	<author>Overzeetop</author>
	<datestamp>1266075840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In a time when school budgets are being slashed, this is pretty expensive. You put this on 50 buses and you've just lost a teacher.</p><p>That's really about the only thing which would make me dislike the service.  Buses are notoriously rowdy places, and hotbeds for bullying. If you have a long bus ride, it probably could function as a partial study hall - especially with the filtering that most public schools put in place.  Even if the kids are just pulling up online magazines to read, or chatting with friends, it's not that bad - their gainfully occupied and relatively quiet.</p><p>A bunch of posters seem to think that a bus should be rowdy. Why? Is the bus driver not normally distracted enough? And what, exactly, is "normal" or "free" about sticking 30 kids in an enclosed space for 45 minutes twice a day with nothing to do? It sucks. Might as well give them something to do that doesn't involve carrying (yet more) books to read on the way, or give them an option other that talking/arguing with the 6 other kids that happen to sit near them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In a time when school budgets are being slashed , this is pretty expensive .
You put this on 50 buses and you 've just lost a teacher.That 's really about the only thing which would make me dislike the service .
Buses are notoriously rowdy places , and hotbeds for bullying .
If you have a long bus ride , it probably could function as a partial study hall - especially with the filtering that most public schools put in place .
Even if the kids are just pulling up online magazines to read , or chatting with friends , it 's not that bad - their gainfully occupied and relatively quiet.A bunch of posters seem to think that a bus should be rowdy .
Why ? Is the bus driver not normally distracted enough ?
And what , exactly , is " normal " or " free " about sticking 30 kids in an enclosed space for 45 minutes twice a day with nothing to do ?
It sucks .
Might as well give them something to do that does n't involve carrying ( yet more ) books to read on the way , or give them an option other that talking/arguing with the 6 other kids that happen to sit near them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a time when school budgets are being slashed, this is pretty expensive.
You put this on 50 buses and you've just lost a teacher.That's really about the only thing which would make me dislike the service.
Buses are notoriously rowdy places, and hotbeds for bullying.
If you have a long bus ride, it probably could function as a partial study hall - especially with the filtering that most public schools put in place.
Even if the kids are just pulling up online magazines to read, or chatting with friends, it's not that bad - their gainfully occupied and relatively quiet.A bunch of posters seem to think that a bus should be rowdy.
Why? Is the bus driver not normally distracted enough?
And what, exactly, is "normal" or "free" about sticking 30 kids in an enclosed space for 45 minutes twice a day with nothing to do?
It sucks.
Might as well give them something to do that doesn't involve carrying (yet more) books to read on the way, or give them an option other that talking/arguing with the 6 other kids that happen to sit near them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127404</id>
	<title>Re:$200 router, $720/year for service</title>
	<author>longhunt</author>
	<datestamp>1266080280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder how long it takes them to hit the 5GB/month data limit, with 45 kids watching video.

<br> <br>A day?

<br> <br>An hour?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how long it takes them to hit the 5GB/month data limit , with 45 kids watching video .
A day ?
An hour ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how long it takes them to hit the 5GB/month data limit, with 45 kids watching video.
A day?
An hour?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128470</id>
	<title>Other than who's paying for the connection...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266088020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what's the difference between this and the students using their own cell modems?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what 's the difference between this and the students using their own cell modems ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what's the difference between this and the students using their own cell modems?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127184</id>
	<title>Re:A rolling study hall?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266078780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1-to-10 says they're all on facebook.</p></div><p>Which they probably are in the non-rolling study halls as well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1-to-10 says they 're all on facebook.Which they probably are in the non-rolling study halls as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1-to-10 says they're all on facebook.Which they probably are in the non-rolling study halls as well.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127416</id>
	<title>Re:mental and social development</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1266080400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; mental and social development is more that just studying.</p><p>Yes.  It involves engaging in social and physical activity (including real productive work) in mixed groups of children and adults.</p><p>Too bad most children never get that.  Instead they get public school and television.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; mental and social development is more that just studying.Yes .
It involves engaging in social and physical activity ( including real productive work ) in mixed groups of children and adults.Too bad most children never get that .
Instead they get public school and television .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; mental and social development is more that just studying.Yes.
It involves engaging in social and physical activity (including real productive work) in mixed groups of children and adults.Too bad most children never get that.
Instead they get public school and television.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127398</id>
	<title>billy madison</title>
	<author>mschoolbus</author>
	<datestamp>1266080280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>O'Doel RULES!</htmltext>
<tokenext>O'Doel RULES !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>O'Doel RULES!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128724</id>
	<title>Daily Bugle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266089700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;'Boys aren't hitting each other, girls are busy, and there's not so much jumping around,' said J. J. Johnson, the Internet Bus driver."</p><p>'Bring me Parker!', he added, 'I need fresh pictures of Spider-Man!'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; 'Boys are n't hitting each other , girls are busy , and there 's not so much jumping around, ' said J. J. Johnson , the Internet Bus driver .
" 'Bring me Parker !
' , he added , 'I need fresh pictures of Spider-Man !
' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;'Boys aren't hitting each other, girls are busy, and there's not so much jumping around,' said J. J. Johnson, the Internet Bus driver.
"'Bring me Parker!
', he added, 'I need fresh pictures of Spider-Man!
'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31129464</id>
	<title>DIY, eventually?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266052500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>potential to reduce the involvement of third parties and equipment:</p><p>http://www.sagem-orga.com/index.php?myELEMENT=World\%20premier:\%20Sagem\%20Orga\%20and\%20Telefonica\%20turn\%20the\%20SIM\%20card\%20into\%20a\%20Wi-Fi\%20hotspot&amp;mySID=cbd11aad8770d04adc34f134a0bf442b&amp;new\_site\_id=2</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>potential to reduce the involvement of third parties and equipment : http : //www.sagem-orga.com/index.php ? myELEMENT = World \ % 20premier : \ % 20Sagem \ % 20Orga \ % 20and \ % 20Telefonica \ % 20turn \ % 20the \ % 20SIM \ % 20card \ % 20into \ % 20a \ % 20Wi-Fi \ % 20hotspot&amp;mySID = cbd11aad8770d04adc34f134a0bf442b&amp;new \ _site \ _id = 2</tokentext>
<sentencetext>potential to reduce the involvement of third parties and equipment:http://www.sagem-orga.com/index.php?myELEMENT=World\%20premier:\%20Sagem\%20Orga\%20and\%20Telefonica\%20turn\%20the\%20SIM\%20card\%20into\%20a\%20Wi-Fi\%20hotspot&amp;mySID=cbd11aad8770d04adc34f134a0bf442b&amp;new\_site\_id=2</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126752</id>
	<title>With leather?</title>
	<author>P0ltergeist333</author>
	<datestamp>1266074580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It looks just like a telefunken U47.</p><p>Don't make a fuss, just get on the bus!</p><p>You'll love it.<br>It's a way of life!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks just like a telefunken U47.Do n't make a fuss , just get on the bus ! You 'll love it.It 's a way of life !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks just like a telefunken U47.Don't make a fuss, just get on the bus!You'll love it.It's a way of life!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31132010</id>
	<title>Re:Benefit of Online Social Networking</title>
	<author>khchung</author>
	<datestamp>1266076920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have a very narrow definition of "interaction".</p><p>I am replying to your post, is this not "interaction"?</p><p>If I write a letter to my friend, is that not "interaction"?<br>If I write a email to my friend, is that not "interaction"?<br>If I chat on the phone with my friend, is that not "interaction"?<br>If I chat on ICQ with my friend, is that not "interaction"?<br>If I text with my friend and his replied similarly, is that not "interaction"?<br>If I comment on the FB status of my friend, and later he replied to my comment, is that not "interaction"?</p><p>Or does "interaction" only happens when one kids punches another in his face?  Spare me that kind "interaction", thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have a very narrow definition of " interaction " .I am replying to your post , is this not " interaction " ? If I write a letter to my friend , is that not " interaction " ? If I write a email to my friend , is that not " interaction " ? If I chat on the phone with my friend , is that not " interaction " ? If I chat on ICQ with my friend , is that not " interaction " ? If I text with my friend and his replied similarly , is that not " interaction " ? If I comment on the FB status of my friend , and later he replied to my comment , is that not " interaction " ? Or does " interaction " only happens when one kids punches another in his face ?
Spare me that kind " interaction " , thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have a very narrow definition of "interaction".I am replying to your post, is this not "interaction"?If I write a letter to my friend, is that not "interaction"?If I write a email to my friend, is that not "interaction"?If I chat on the phone with my friend, is that not "interaction"?If I chat on ICQ with my friend, is that not "interaction"?If I text with my friend and his replied similarly, is that not "interaction"?If I comment on the FB status of my friend, and later he replied to my comment, is that not "interaction"?Or does "interaction" only happens when one kids punches another in his face?
Spare me that kind "interaction", thank you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126800</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127058</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Sponge Bath</author>
	<datestamp>1266077760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Adopt the restraint technique used for Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs: Face mask, straight jacket, and tied to a hand cart for easy mobility.</p><p>Parent: How was school today?<br>Child: mmrrmmph...<br>Parent: Awww, isn't that special.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Adopt the restraint technique used for Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs : Face mask , straight jacket , and tied to a hand cart for easy mobility.Parent : How was school today ? Child : mmrrmmph...Parent : Awww , is n't that special .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Adopt the restraint technique used for Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs: Face mask, straight jacket, and tied to a hand cart for easy mobility.Parent: How was school today?Child: mmrrmmph...Parent: Awww, isn't that special.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126868</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31130076</id>
	<title>Sing with me...</title>
	<author>Mal-2</author>
	<datestamp>1266057120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The wifi on the bus goes up and down,<br>Up and down, up and down.<br>The wifi on the bus goes up and down,<br>All through the town!<br>&lt;/sing&gt;</p><p>Seriously though, will we get this on city buses and trains? And the stations? This could considerably encourage the use of public transportation at a fairly low cost to cities.</p><p>Mal-2</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The wifi on the bus goes up and down,Up and down , up and down.The wifi on the bus goes up and down,All through the town ! Seriously though , will we get this on city buses and trains ?
And the stations ?
This could considerably encourage the use of public transportation at a fairly low cost to cities.Mal-2</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The wifi on the bus goes up and down,Up and down, up and down.The wifi on the bus goes up and down,All through the town!Seriously though, will we get this on city buses and trains?
And the stations?
This could considerably encourage the use of public transportation at a fairly low cost to cities.Mal-2</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31130124</id>
	<title>iPhone + Laptop</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266057660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an iPhone and a laptop<br>Thats my wifi on the bus, tethered and 7Mbit/sec connection</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an iPhone and a laptopThats my wifi on the bus , tethered and 7Mbit/sec connection</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an iPhone and a laptopThats my wifi on the bus, tethered and 7Mbit/sec connection</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127976</id>
	<title>Re:behavioral problems have virtually disappeared</title>
	<author>S-4'N3</author>
	<datestamp>1266084600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would have loved for this technology to have existed when I was in elementary school. We had ridiculous rules in place that even once we had arrived at school, nobody could leave any of the schoolbusses until all of the schoolbusses had arrived. It was a breeding ground for sadism.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have loved for this technology to have existed when I was in elementary school .
We had ridiculous rules in place that even once we had arrived at school , nobody could leave any of the schoolbusses until all of the schoolbusses had arrived .
It was a breeding ground for sadism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have loved for this technology to have existed when I was in elementary school.
We had ridiculous rules in place that even once we had arrived at school, nobody could leave any of the schoolbusses until all of the schoolbusses had arrived.
It was a breeding ground for sadism.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126648</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127490</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>slugstone</author>
	<datestamp>1266080700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a school bus ride.  No teacher involved.  You can ride the bus to help the school bus driver with the kids.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a school bus ride .
No teacher involved .
You can ride the bus to help the school bus driver with the kids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a school bus ride.
No teacher involved.
You can ride the bus to help the school bus driver with the kids.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128578</id>
	<title>No one considered</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266088800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it might be the radiation making them docile<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it might be the radiation making them docile : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it might be the radiation making them docile :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126912</id>
	<title>wifi imply loaded bus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266076140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>great roberry target</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>great roberry target</tokentext>
<sentencetext>great roberry target</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128222</id>
	<title>Real Deal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266086160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I took away from the story was that a school board wanted to make their students more docile, so they attached a device that emits EMR to a school bus, and suddenly, the children became calm. I better start making a child sized tin foil hat for my kids.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I took away from the story was that a school board wanted to make their students more docile , so they attached a device that emits EMR to a school bus , and suddenly , the children became calm .
I better start making a child sized tin foil hat for my kids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I took away from the story was that a school board wanted to make their students more docile, so they attached a device that emits EMR to a school bus, and suddenly, the children became calm.
I better start making a child sized tin foil hat for my kids.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128568</id>
	<title>Re: New Policy Needed</title>
	<author>ciggieposeur</author>
	<datestamp>1266088740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A: This solution will get us there.</p><p>Q: What is "Separate But Equal" Alex?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A : This solution will get us there.Q : What is " Separate But Equal " Alex ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A: This solution will get us there.Q: What is "Separate But Equal" Alex?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127378</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126726</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266074340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>+++ MOD PARENT UP!!!</p><p>This is just so typical.  Let's not teach children to behave, have patience. imagination, read books, or anything else.  Let's just DISTRACT/ENTERTAIN them.</p><p>And how many people think that the majority of the kids are using it to do homework or research or learning?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>+ + + MOD PARENT UP ! !
! This is just so typical .
Let 's not teach children to behave , have patience .
imagination , read books , or anything else .
Let 's just DISTRACT/ENTERTAIN them.And how many people think that the majority of the kids are using it to do homework or research or learning ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>+++ MOD PARENT UP!!
!This is just so typical.
Let's not teach children to behave, have patience.
imagination, read books, or anything else.
Let's just DISTRACT/ENTERTAIN them.And how many people think that the majority of the kids are using it to do homework or research or learning?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127126</id>
	<title>Re:behavioral problems have virtually disappeared</title>
	<author>TorKlingberg</author>
	<datestamp>1266078300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why is the Slashdot house view that kids should always be doing exactly what kids 50 years ago were doing? Since when is stuffing a large number of kids in a cramped space for hours with little to do considered important for their development? Anyway, this is high school students. What's so wrong about them using laptops and the internet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is the Slashdot house view that kids should always be doing exactly what kids 50 years ago were doing ?
Since when is stuffing a large number of kids in a cramped space for hours with little to do considered important for their development ?
Anyway , this is high school students .
What 's so wrong about them using laptops and the internet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is the Slashdot house view that kids should always be doing exactly what kids 50 years ago were doing?
Since when is stuffing a large number of kids in a cramped space for hours with little to do considered important for their development?
Anyway, this is high school students.
What's so wrong about them using laptops and the internet?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126648</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126628</id>
	<title>A rolling study hall?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266073500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I doubt it.</p><p>1-to-10 says they're all on facebook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt it.1-to-10 says they 're all on facebook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt it.1-to-10 says they're all on facebook.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128502</id>
	<title>Re:A rolling study hall?</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1266088380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RTFA, snarkhead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RTFA , snarkhead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RTFA, snarkhead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126628</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127760</id>
	<title>This just in!</title>
	<author>Amorymeltzer</author>
	<datestamp>1266082800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Young adults, when given internet, will use it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Young adults , when given internet , will use it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Young adults, when given internet, will use it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126674</id>
	<title>The WiFi on the Bus...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266074040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Song:<br>The WiFi on the bus goes up and down,<br>up and down, up and down...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/Song</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Song : The WiFi on the bus goes up and down,up and down , up and down... /Song</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Song:The WiFi on the bus goes up and down,up and down, up and down... /Song</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128324</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>cheesewire</author>
	<datestamp>1266086940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Can't wait for the virtual elementary school. Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.</p></div><p>Unfortunately this situation seems to exist in the form of poorly trained teachers, for whom science education is limited to videos on the interactive whiteboard.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't wait for the virtual elementary school .
Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.Unfortunately this situation seems to exist in the form of poorly trained teachers , for whom science education is limited to videos on the interactive whiteboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't wait for the virtual elementary school.
Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.Unfortunately this situation seems to exist in the form of poorly trained teachers, for whom science education is limited to videos on the interactive whiteboard.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126650</id>
	<title>And the zombification of our children continues...</title>
	<author>Liquidrage</author>
	<datestamp>1266073680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just like good parenting...
<br> <br>
Stick a TV/DS/Xbox infront of your kid and they act all perfect.
<br> <br>
Can't wait for the virtual elementary school. Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like good parenting.. . Stick a TV/DS/Xbox infront of your kid and they act all perfect .
Ca n't wait for the virtual elementary school .
Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like good parenting...
 
Stick a TV/DS/Xbox infront of your kid and they act all perfect.
Can't wait for the virtual elementary school.
Just strap your kid to the gurney and put the goggles on 'em.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31130122</id>
	<title>Re:Not good.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266057600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, we need continues horseplay in a moving vehicle</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , we need continues horseplay in a moving vehicle</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, we need continues horseplay in a moving vehicle</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126592</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31129406</id>
	<title>400Kbps to 800Kbps?</title>
	<author>godel\_56</author>
	<datestamp>1266052140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>From Autonet Mobile's FAQ:
<p>"What kind of speeds can I expect?

Over the 3G network, download speeds average from 400kbps-800kbps. Upload ranges from 128kbps-300kbps.  When not on 3G the average download is 120kbps-200kbps and 50kbps-100kbps for upload."q&gt; </p><p>Now we know why the kids are so quiet. They spend the whole trip waiting for something to load.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From Autonet Mobile 's FAQ : " What kind of speeds can I expect ?
Over the 3G network , download speeds average from 400kbps-800kbps .
Upload ranges from 128kbps-300kbps .
When not on 3G the average download is 120kbps-200kbps and 50kbps-100kbps for upload .
" q &gt; Now we know why the kids are so quiet .
They spend the whole trip waiting for something to load .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From Autonet Mobile's FAQ:
"What kind of speeds can I expect?
Over the 3G network, download speeds average from 400kbps-800kbps.
Upload ranges from 128kbps-300kbps.
When not on 3G the average download is 120kbps-200kbps and 50kbps-100kbps for upload.
"q&gt; Now we know why the kids are so quiet.
They spend the whole trip waiting for something to load.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127420</id>
	<title>From free-WiFi-all-over-the-place courtry.</title>
	<author>zoom-ping</author>
	<datestamp>1266080400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most Estonian railway and bus companies have been offering free WiFi via <a href="http://www.kou.ee/index.php?L=1" title="www.kou.ee" rel="nofollow">K&#245;u (thunder)</a> [www.kou.ee] on longer rides for some years now. Loving it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most Estonian railway and bus companies have been offering free WiFi via K   u ( thunder ) [ www.kou.ee ] on longer rides for some years now .
Loving it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most Estonian railway and bus companies have been offering free WiFi via Kõu (thunder) [www.kou.ee] on longer rides for some years now.
Loving it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127210</id>
	<title>Re:mental and social development</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1266078960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The internet is more than just studying. You can take a Wikipedia link hopping trip and see what you learn, you can read the news, you can read and post on Slashdot, and you can go on Facebook/Myspace/Twitter/email. Notice how the first three are educational but without relating to your school subjects and the last two are in fact forms of socializing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The internet is more than just studying .
You can take a Wikipedia link hopping trip and see what you learn , you can read the news , you can read and post on Slashdot , and you can go on Facebook/Myspace/Twitter/email .
Notice how the first three are educational but without relating to your school subjects and the last two are in fact forms of socializing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The internet is more than just studying.
You can take a Wikipedia link hopping trip and see what you learn, you can read the news, you can read and post on Slashdot, and you can go on Facebook/Myspace/Twitter/email.
Notice how the first three are educational but without relating to your school subjects and the last two are in fact forms of socializing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31129644</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>colmore</author>
	<datestamp>1266053700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think todays kids are learning to deal with boredom very well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think todays kids are learning to deal with boredom very well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think todays kids are learning to deal with boredom very well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126868</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127046</id>
	<title>Re:sounds ominous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266077700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All this "compare it to medicating a kid" talk completely overlooks the safety aspect of the situation. If you're the bus driver, your attention needs to be on the road and on traffic, not the guys in the middle of the bus trying to fight. But, it's ultimately the driver's responsibility for maintaining discipline on the bus. If they're not being a distraction to the driver (you know, the one person during the ride that literally holds these kids' lives in the palm of his hand), then it's a much safer bus. (Sure, you could hire bus monitors for EVERY BUS, but that's terribly expensive and/or cuts into the drivers' already meager pay. You have to have some way to retain bus driving employees and currently, it's with benefits - cut into their pay and you lose drivers only to replace them with cheaper people. Yes, I mean 'low quality'.)</p><p>Second, it's not like there was much of an opportunity for education on the school bus prior to this idea. At least this gives them the *chance* to learn and explore knowledge. Whether they take that chance (instead of gaming or "social networking") is up to the kids.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All this " compare it to medicating a kid " talk completely overlooks the safety aspect of the situation .
If you 're the bus driver , your attention needs to be on the road and on traffic , not the guys in the middle of the bus trying to fight .
But , it 's ultimately the driver 's responsibility for maintaining discipline on the bus .
If they 're not being a distraction to the driver ( you know , the one person during the ride that literally holds these kids ' lives in the palm of his hand ) , then it 's a much safer bus .
( Sure , you could hire bus monitors for EVERY BUS , but that 's terribly expensive and/or cuts into the drivers ' already meager pay .
You have to have some way to retain bus driving employees and currently , it 's with benefits - cut into their pay and you lose drivers only to replace them with cheaper people .
Yes , I mean 'low quality' .
) Second , it 's not like there was much of an opportunity for education on the school bus prior to this idea .
At least this gives them the * chance * to learn and explore knowledge .
Whether they take that chance ( instead of gaming or " social networking " ) is up to the kids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All this "compare it to medicating a kid" talk completely overlooks the safety aspect of the situation.
If you're the bus driver, your attention needs to be on the road and on traffic, not the guys in the middle of the bus trying to fight.
But, it's ultimately the driver's responsibility for maintaining discipline on the bus.
If they're not being a distraction to the driver (you know, the one person during the ride that literally holds these kids' lives in the palm of his hand), then it's a much safer bus.
(Sure, you could hire bus monitors for EVERY BUS, but that's terribly expensive and/or cuts into the drivers' already meager pay.
You have to have some way to retain bus driving employees and currently, it's with benefits - cut into their pay and you lose drivers only to replace them with cheaper people.
Yes, I mean 'low quality'.
)Second, it's not like there was much of an opportunity for education on the school bus prior to this idea.
At least this gives them the *chance* to learn and explore knowledge.
Whether they take that chance (instead of gaming or "social networking") is up to the kids.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31131910</id>
	<title>work or play?</title>
	<author>daisybelle</author>
	<datestamp>1266075540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most of the kids mentioned in the article were doing work. Not all, but well over half. Just a little fyi for all those who assumed every kid was on facebook or playing games.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of the kids mentioned in the article were doing work .
Not all , but well over half .
Just a little fyi for all those who assumed every kid was on facebook or playing games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of the kids mentioned in the article were doing work.
Not all, but well over half.
Just a little fyi for all those who assumed every kid was on facebook or playing games.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128290</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266086640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe they live an hour outside of town you presumptuous prick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they live an hour outside of town you presumptuous prick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they live an hour outside of town you presumptuous prick.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31130640</id>
	<title>Re:sounds ominous</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1266061800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can't help but compare it to medicating a kid so he doesn't run around as much and so he's docile and well behaved and compliant and conforming. That's scary to me.</p></div><p>As a former target of bullying, I can't help but think that medicating bullies would have produced superior education for everyone including the bullies. It would probably have single-handedly prevented me from living in severe depression for my school career between junior high (when I was uprooted from my social set when we moved) and the second year of high school, when I took the CHSPE and got the hell out of school. And instead of finding new ways to make people like me who were interested in learning too miserable to do so (what are you, some kind of egghead?) the bullies would have been learning. Of course, the absolute best thing would have been for them to have attentive and caring parents who would have been interested enough in them to know what they were up to and to give them the guidance they needed, but there is no particular reason why I should have suffered for their lack thereof.</p><p>Just to be clear, I do not think medication of children for attitude adjustment is the best possible outcome, but I do think it is the most realistic outcome which would be positive for the greatest number of people. Unfortunately, it is usually not the bullies who are subjected to this kind of treatment, but the kids who don't fit in with the herd.</p><p>Or put more simply, letting bullies walk all over would-be students leads to things worse than medication.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't help but compare it to medicating a kid so he does n't run around as much and so he 's docile and well behaved and compliant and conforming .
That 's scary to me.As a former target of bullying , I ca n't help but think that medicating bullies would have produced superior education for everyone including the bullies .
It would probably have single-handedly prevented me from living in severe depression for my school career between junior high ( when I was uprooted from my social set when we moved ) and the second year of high school , when I took the CHSPE and got the hell out of school .
And instead of finding new ways to make people like me who were interested in learning too miserable to do so ( what are you , some kind of egghead ?
) the bullies would have been learning .
Of course , the absolute best thing would have been for them to have attentive and caring parents who would have been interested enough in them to know what they were up to and to give them the guidance they needed , but there is no particular reason why I should have suffered for their lack thereof.Just to be clear , I do not think medication of children for attitude adjustment is the best possible outcome , but I do think it is the most realistic outcome which would be positive for the greatest number of people .
Unfortunately , it is usually not the bullies who are subjected to this kind of treatment , but the kids who do n't fit in with the herd.Or put more simply , letting bullies walk all over would-be students leads to things worse than medication .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't help but compare it to medicating a kid so he doesn't run around as much and so he's docile and well behaved and compliant and conforming.
That's scary to me.As a former target of bullying, I can't help but think that medicating bullies would have produced superior education for everyone including the bullies.
It would probably have single-handedly prevented me from living in severe depression for my school career between junior high (when I was uprooted from my social set when we moved) and the second year of high school, when I took the CHSPE and got the hell out of school.
And instead of finding new ways to make people like me who were interested in learning too miserable to do so (what are you, some kind of egghead?
) the bullies would have been learning.
Of course, the absolute best thing would have been for them to have attentive and caring parents who would have been interested enough in them to know what they were up to and to give them the guidance they needed, but there is no particular reason why I should have suffered for their lack thereof.Just to be clear, I do not think medication of children for attitude adjustment is the best possible outcome, but I do think it is the most realistic outcome which would be positive for the greatest number of people.
Unfortunately, it is usually not the bullies who are subjected to this kind of treatment, but the kids who don't fit in with the herd.Or put more simply, letting bullies walk all over would-be students leads to things worse than medication.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126846</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>cptdondo</author>
	<datestamp>1266075660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, reading is "distracting" and "entertaining".  My kids use their computers to play games, sure.  Listen to obnoxious music, sure.  But they also study the videos of their swims, (they're competitive swimmers), do homework, write poetry and stories, and such.  (I'm sure they're going to be Nobel-winning authors.  NOT.  But they have fun with it.)</p><p>This just takes it up to the next level.  I hated riding the bus; I'd rather take the subway.  Too many kids being assholes on the bus.</p><p>I think all in all this is good.  The bus driver has to drive, not be a nanny.  The more attention s/he can pay to driving and not to screaming fighting kids, the safer everyone is.</p><p>And, best of all, listen to the kids.  They like it, although no doubt they didn't quote the disaffected ones.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , reading is " distracting " and " entertaining " .
My kids use their computers to play games , sure .
Listen to obnoxious music , sure .
But they also study the videos of their swims , ( they 're competitive swimmers ) , do homework , write poetry and stories , and such .
( I 'm sure they 're going to be Nobel-winning authors .
NOT. But they have fun with it .
) This just takes it up to the next level .
I hated riding the bus ; I 'd rather take the subway .
Too many kids being assholes on the bus.I think all in all this is good .
The bus driver has to drive , not be a nanny .
The more attention s/he can pay to driving and not to screaming fighting kids , the safer everyone is.And , best of all , listen to the kids .
They like it , although no doubt they did n't quote the disaffected ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, reading is "distracting" and "entertaining".
My kids use their computers to play games, sure.
Listen to obnoxious music, sure.
But they also study the videos of their swims, (they're competitive swimmers), do homework, write poetry and stories, and such.
(I'm sure they're going to be Nobel-winning authors.
NOT.  But they have fun with it.
)This just takes it up to the next level.
I hated riding the bus; I'd rather take the subway.
Too many kids being assholes on the bus.I think all in all this is good.
The bus driver has to drive, not be a nanny.
The more attention s/he can pay to driving and not to screaming fighting kids, the safer everyone is.And, best of all, listen to the kids.
They like it, although no doubt they didn't quote the disaffected ones.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127880</id>
	<title>Re:$200 router, $720/year for service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266083760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>30?  Try 60 kids, cars that don't really care that you are carrying their neighbor's kids, narrow two-lane roads with no shoulder and most cars that see you coming will pull out in front of you in an instant because they don't want to get stuck behind the school bus for the 450 feet they'll be on this road forcing me to slow down for them not once, but twice.</p><p>On top of that I'm watching for fights, couples getting too friendly and then actually moving the bus down the road safely, because the first time I don't, the phone lines will be lit up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>30 ?
Try 60 kids , cars that do n't really care that you are carrying their neighbor 's kids , narrow two-lane roads with no shoulder and most cars that see you coming will pull out in front of you in an instant because they do n't want to get stuck behind the school bus for the 450 feet they 'll be on this road forcing me to slow down for them not once , but twice.On top of that I 'm watching for fights , couples getting too friendly and then actually moving the bus down the road safely , because the first time I do n't , the phone lines will be lit up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>30?
Try 60 kids, cars that don't really care that you are carrying their neighbor's kids, narrow two-lane roads with no shoulder and most cars that see you coming will pull out in front of you in an instant because they don't want to get stuck behind the school bus for the 450 feet they'll be on this road forcing me to slow down for them not once, but twice.On top of that I'm watching for fights, couples getting too friendly and then actually moving the bus down the road safely, because the first time I don't, the phone lines will be lit up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126692</id>
	<title>Meh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266074160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Over engineering if you ask me. The same result can be accomplished with a roll of duct tape. Silence is golden, duct tape is silver as the saying goes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Over engineering if you ask me .
The same result can be accomplished with a roll of duct tape .
Silence is golden , duct tape is silver as the saying goes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Over engineering if you ask me.
The same result can be accomplished with a roll of duct tape.
Silence is golden, duct tape is silver as the saying goes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126924</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>hamburger lady</author>
	<datestamp>1266076320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>well, you gotta remember these are long-ass bus trips we're talking about. more than an hour each way. conversation with the kid next to you only goes so far, and i'm sure at least some of the kids appreciate the chance to work on some homework.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>well , you got ta remember these are long-ass bus trips we 're talking about .
more than an hour each way .
conversation with the kid next to you only goes so far , and i 'm sure at least some of the kids appreciate the chance to work on some homework .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well, you gotta remember these are long-ass bus trips we're talking about.
more than an hour each way.
conversation with the kid next to you only goes so far, and i'm sure at least some of the kids appreciate the chance to work on some homework.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31131536</id>
	<title>Re:mental and social development</title>
	<author>meta-monkey</author>
	<datestamp>1266071280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're not being forced to use it.  If they'd prefer to socialize (in person) they're free to do so.  But if you don't want to socialize with the idiots on your bus, you don't have to. Instead, you could IM with your actual friend on a different bus.
<br> <br>I don't know why you're complaining...seems like you'd appreciate the fact that more time spent studying = more time those damn kids aren't on your lawn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're not being forced to use it .
If they 'd prefer to socialize ( in person ) they 're free to do so .
But if you do n't want to socialize with the idiots on your bus , you do n't have to .
Instead , you could IM with your actual friend on a different bus .
I do n't know why you 're complaining...seems like you 'd appreciate the fact that more time spent studying = more time those damn kids are n't on your lawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're not being forced to use it.
If they'd prefer to socialize (in person) they're free to do so.
But if you don't want to socialize with the idiots on your bus, you don't have to.
Instead, you could IM with your actual friend on a different bus.
I don't know why you're complaining...seems like you'd appreciate the fact that more time spent studying = more time those damn kids aren't on your lawn.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31131862</id>
	<title>Re:A rolling study hall?</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1266075120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>1-to-10 says they're all on facebook.</p></div></blockquote><p>, or myspace, creating fake profiles impersonating each other and posting crap to people chess classmates. "Bullying" has changed to embrace technology.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1-to-10 says they 're all on facebook. , or myspace , creating fake profiles impersonating each other and posting crap to people chess classmates .
" Bullying " has changed to embrace technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1-to-10 says they're all on facebook., or myspace, creating fake profiles impersonating each other and posting crap to people chess classmates.
"Bullying" has changed to embrace technology.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31131286</id>
	<title>Re:A rolling study hall?</title>
	<author>catd77</author>
	<datestamp>1266068460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Hey guys guess what!,MY eggplants are done in Farmville!"-Student on the WiFi bus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hey guys guess what ! ,MY eggplants are done in Farmville !
" -Student on the WiFi bus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hey guys guess what!,MY eggplants are done in Farmville!
"-Student on the WiFi bus.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127498</id>
	<title>Re:the wheels on the bus go</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266080820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The pakis on the bus go bud bud bud, bud bud bud, bud bud bud.</p><p>The pakis on the bus go bud bud bud, all day long.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The pakis on the bus go bud bud bud , bud bud bud , bud bud bud.The pakis on the bus go bud bud bud , all day long .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The pakis on the bus go bud bud bud, bud bud bud, bud bud bud.The pakis on the bus go bud bud bud, all day long.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31130710</id>
	<title>Re:$200 router, $720/year for service</title>
	<author>lakeland</author>
	<datestamp>1266062400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps it will cost a teacher - though I think more likely you'll lose something optional - like a librarian.  But 50 busses * 30 kids * 2 hour long trips a day is 3000 hours of benefit every day.  The librarian would no doubt have benefitted a few kids far more, but I'd be that on average this is better.</p><p>I have a hard time imagining how a school could get a similar amount of benefit for $800/year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps it will cost a teacher - though I think more likely you 'll lose something optional - like a librarian .
But 50 busses * 30 kids * 2 hour long trips a day is 3000 hours of benefit every day .
The librarian would no doubt have benefitted a few kids far more , but I 'd be that on average this is better.I have a hard time imagining how a school could get a similar amount of benefit for $ 800/year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps it will cost a teacher - though I think more likely you'll lose something optional - like a librarian.
But 50 busses * 30 kids * 2 hour long trips a day is 3000 hours of benefit every day.
The librarian would no doubt have benefitted a few kids far more, but I'd be that on average this is better.I have a hard time imagining how a school could get a similar amount of benefit for $800/year.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126602</id>
	<title>the wheels on the bus go</title>
	<author>masmullin</author>
	<datestamp>1266073260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... round and round, round and round round and round.  The wheels on the bus go round and round...</p><p>What does the wifi on the bus go?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... round and round , round and round round and round .
The wheels on the bus go round and round...What does the wifi on the bus go ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... round and round, round and round round and round.
The wheels on the bus go round and round...What does the wifi on the bus go?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128738</id>
	<title>Re:Why Take Laptops to School?</title>
	<author>socsoc</author>
	<datestamp>1266089880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Go back and audit some classes, I disagree completely.  In '05 plenty of people had laptops in classes and my visits show that it's become even more dominant.  Many people I know carried laptops with them if only to use in between classes or later in the library. Now a bunch of them have netbooks. Update your Facebook while having a pint or take some notes during a lecture or fine tune a paper minutes before it is due.  Perhaps it depends on the university, discipline aside maybe different universities have different adoption rates.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Go back and audit some classes , I disagree completely .
In '05 plenty of people had laptops in classes and my visits show that it 's become even more dominant .
Many people I know carried laptops with them if only to use in between classes or later in the library .
Now a bunch of them have netbooks .
Update your Facebook while having a pint or take some notes during a lecture or fine tune a paper minutes before it is due .
Perhaps it depends on the university , discipline aside maybe different universities have different adoption rates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go back and audit some classes, I disagree completely.
In '05 plenty of people had laptops in classes and my visits show that it's become even more dominant.
Many people I know carried laptops with them if only to use in between classes or later in the library.
Now a bunch of them have netbooks.
Update your Facebook while having a pint or take some notes during a lecture or fine tune a paper minutes before it is due.
Perhaps it depends on the university, discipline aside maybe different universities have different adoption rates.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126780</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266075120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>shouldn't that be googles ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>should n't that be googles ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>shouldn't that be googles ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126648</id>
	<title>behavioral problems have virtually disappeared</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266073620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"behavioral problems have virtually disappeared" --- well, that depends on what you consider a behavioral problem. I find it healthier for a bunch of kid to be noisy and hyperactive (even if this involves occasionally hitting each other) than to be all hunched down on their 7'' netbooks checking Facebook.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" behavioral problems have virtually disappeared " --- well , that depends on what you consider a behavioral problem .
I find it healthier for a bunch of kid to be noisy and hyperactive ( even if this involves occasionally hitting each other ) than to be all hunched down on their 7' ' netbooks checking Facebook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"behavioral problems have virtually disappeared" --- well, that depends on what you consider a behavioral problem.
I find it healthier for a bunch of kid to be noisy and hyperactive (even if this involves occasionally hitting each other) than to be all hunched down on their 7'' netbooks checking Facebook.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31130096</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266057300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Or the idiot parents that get the DVD player in the minivan. That one blows my mind. "Going to the store kids! pick out a movie for the 5 minute ride!"</p><p>wow..... just wow....</p></div></blockquote><p>DVD players in vans aren't to blame.  Your mind has long since been blown, as proven by your use of wheezing internet phrases used exclusively by morons unable to form or articulate their own thoughts.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or the idiot parents that get the DVD player in the minivan .
That one blows my mind .
" Going to the store kids !
pick out a movie for the 5 minute ride ! " wow.... .
just wow....DVD players in vans are n't to blame .
Your mind has long since been blown , as proven by your use of wheezing internet phrases used exclusively by morons unable to form or articulate their own thoughts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or the idiot parents that get the DVD player in the minivan.
That one blows my mind.
"Going to the store kids!
pick out a movie for the 5 minute ride!"wow.....
just wow....DVD players in vans aren't to blame.
Your mind has long since been blown, as proven by your use of wheezing internet phrases used exclusively by morons unable to form or articulate their own thoughts.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126802</id>
	<title>Re:behavioral problems have virtually disappeared</title>
	<author>hitmark</author>
	<datestamp>1266075420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>maybe at school or similar, but in a bus with the only adult present being the driver?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>maybe at school or similar , but in a bus with the only adult present being the driver ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>maybe at school or similar, but in a bus with the only adult present being the driver?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128674</id>
	<title>Re:$200 router, $720/year for service</title>
	<author>socsoc</author>
	<datestamp>1266089460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some school buses in California have fees associated with them (with reduced/free discounts similar to lunches), but there are generally no free rides in those districts.  I'm not sure about AZ (and given that the example is a wide and rural route I doubt it), but one idea is to charge a bit more to subsidize the wifi.  I know kids that spend over an hour each way on the bus that their parents already pay for, maybe a bit more for wireless would be an attractive option.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some school buses in California have fees associated with them ( with reduced/free discounts similar to lunches ) , but there are generally no free rides in those districts .
I 'm not sure about AZ ( and given that the example is a wide and rural route I doubt it ) , but one idea is to charge a bit more to subsidize the wifi .
I know kids that spend over an hour each way on the bus that their parents already pay for , maybe a bit more for wireless would be an attractive option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some school buses in California have fees associated with them (with reduced/free discounts similar to lunches), but there are generally no free rides in those districts.
I'm not sure about AZ (and given that the example is a wide and rural route I doubt it), but one idea is to charge a bit more to subsidize the wifi.
I know kids that spend over an hour each way on the bus that their parents already pay for, maybe a bit more for wireless would be an attractive option.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31128064</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1266085140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Something like what the old man went through in Soylent Green might be nice!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Something like what the old man went through in Soylent Green might be nice !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something like what the old man went through in Soylent Green might be nice!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127564</id>
	<title>Why Take Laptops to School?</title>
	<author>TheStonepedo</author>
	<datestamp>1266081360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I graduated from college in the winter of 2006.  With the exception of the computer science department, very few college students needed personal laptops at school.<br>Why should primary or secondary school students lug laptops from home to school and back when most schools have controlled computer labs and most towns have public libraries?  The complexity and cost of distributing and maintaining laptops seems unnecessary.<br>Laptops and per-bus wifi seem like an expensive way to lessen the dullness of trips to and from school.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I graduated from college in the winter of 2006 .
With the exception of the computer science department , very few college students needed personal laptops at school.Why should primary or secondary school students lug laptops from home to school and back when most schools have controlled computer labs and most towns have public libraries ?
The complexity and cost of distributing and maintaining laptops seems unnecessary.Laptops and per-bus wifi seem like an expensive way to lessen the dullness of trips to and from school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I graduated from college in the winter of 2006.
With the exception of the computer science department, very few college students needed personal laptops at school.Why should primary or secondary school students lug laptops from home to school and back when most schools have controlled computer labs and most towns have public libraries?
The complexity and cost of distributing and maintaining laptops seems unnecessary.Laptops and per-bus wifi seem like an expensive way to lessen the dullness of trips to and from school.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126842</id>
	<title>Being the one usually getting hit.</title>
	<author>maillemaker</author>
	<datestamp>1266075660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since I was the one usually getting hit, frankly I dont' wouldn't care what they are were hunched down on as long as it isn't me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since I was the one usually getting hit , frankly I dont ' would n't care what they are were hunched down on as long as it is n't me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since I was the one usually getting hit, frankly I dont' wouldn't care what they are were hunched down on as long as it isn't me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127568</id>
	<title>Re:A rolling study hall?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266081360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I doubt it.</p><p>1-to-10 says they're all on facebook.</p></div><p>All in their virtual worlds bullying each other. Just 'cos they are quiet doesn't mean they are being good<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt it.1-to-10 says they 're all on facebook.All in their virtual worlds bullying each other .
Just 'cos they are quiet does n't mean they are being good ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt it.1-to-10 says they're all on facebook.All in their virtual worlds bullying each other.
Just 'cos they are quiet doesn't mean they are being good ;)
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127254</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>andy1307</author>
	<datestamp>1266079200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Serious question: How many kids have you raised?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Serious question : How many kids have you raised ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Serious question: How many kids have you raised?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31130352</id>
	<title>Clear the howework queue early</title>
	<author>Mal-2</author>
	<datestamp>1266059400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This could be <i>wonderful</i> for socialization. Imagine this from a kid's perspective. On a bus, you get to socialize with whoever is seated close to you, and not do much else but horseplay. If you could instead spend that time to do homework, you gain the same amount of free time at home to socialize with the people you LIKE (who may or may not be the same people as you sat with on the bus), and *gasp* maybe even go outside and play!</p><p>More likely though it'll get used to play networked games with or against each other. That's still not a bad thing though, since that is likely something you'd do when you got home anyhow.</p><p>Mal-2</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This could be wonderful for socialization .
Imagine this from a kid 's perspective .
On a bus , you get to socialize with whoever is seated close to you , and not do much else but horseplay .
If you could instead spend that time to do homework , you gain the same amount of free time at home to socialize with the people you LIKE ( who may or may not be the same people as you sat with on the bus ) , and * gasp * maybe even go outside and play ! More likely though it 'll get used to play networked games with or against each other .
That 's still not a bad thing though , since that is likely something you 'd do when you got home anyhow.Mal-2</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This could be wonderful for socialization.
Imagine this from a kid's perspective.
On a bus, you get to socialize with whoever is seated close to you, and not do much else but horseplay.
If you could instead spend that time to do homework, you gain the same amount of free time at home to socialize with the people you LIKE (who may or may not be the same people as you sat with on the bus), and *gasp* maybe even go outside and play!More likely though it'll get used to play networked games with or against each other.
That's still not a bad thing though, since that is likely something you'd do when you got home anyhow.Mal-2</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31129262</id>
	<title>Re:mental and social development</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1266094200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And that sums up the state of our public education nicely.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And that sums up the state of our public education nicely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that sums up the state of our public education nicely.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126868</id>
	<title>Re:And the zombification of our children continues</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1266075840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or the idiot parents that get the DVD player in the minivan.  That one blows my mind.   "Going to the store kids!  pick out a movie for the 5 minute ride!"</p><p>wow..... just wow....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or the idiot parents that get the DVD player in the minivan .
That one blows my mind .
" Going to the store kids !
pick out a movie for the 5 minute ride ! " wow.... .
just wow... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or the idiot parents that get the DVD player in the minivan.
That one blows my mind.
"Going to the store kids!
pick out a movie for the 5 minute ride!"wow.....
just wow....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31126650</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31131690</id>
	<title>Re:behavioral problems have virtually disappeared</title>
	<author>tverbeek</author>
	<datestamp>1266073020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was in 6th grade, I went to a school (early version of the "magnet school" concept) that bussed kids in from all over the city.  Within a few months, I'd made a new set of friends.  They weren't necessarily the kids I was in class with, or even the kids who lived closest to me.  They were the kids I rode the bus with.  It was a great place to socialize.  It doesn't sound like that's happening on this netbus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in 6th grade , I went to a school ( early version of the " magnet school " concept ) that bussed kids in from all over the city .
Within a few months , I 'd made a new set of friends .
They were n't necessarily the kids I was in class with , or even the kids who lived closest to me .
They were the kids I rode the bus with .
It was a great place to socialize .
It does n't sound like that 's happening on this netbus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in 6th grade, I went to a school (early version of the "magnet school" concept) that bussed kids in from all over the city.
Within a few months, I'd made a new set of friends.
They weren't necessarily the kids I was in class with, or even the kids who lived closest to me.
They were the kids I rode the bus with.
It was a great place to socialize.
It doesn't sound like that's happening on this netbus.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127366</id>
	<title>It's good and bad.</title>
	<author>MrCrassic</author>
	<datestamp>1266080100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a good thing in the sense that it gives students an opportunity to be more productive during a time that they normally wouldn't be. However, being rowdy and stupid on the school bus is part of being a high-schooler. Kids at that age should be loud and crazy, simply because they won't get the opportunity to do that elsewhere or when they age. Sure, some people might get the short end of the stick (I did when I was in HS and middle school, though I almost always walked to school), but I always thought it was part of growing up.</p><p>While I don't regret the way my high school years panned out, some social issues I'm facing now would have certainly been made easier to deal with had I relaxed a little back then. Being quiet and structured all the time has its flaws.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a good thing in the sense that it gives students an opportunity to be more productive during a time that they normally would n't be .
However , being rowdy and stupid on the school bus is part of being a high-schooler .
Kids at that age should be loud and crazy , simply because they wo n't get the opportunity to do that elsewhere or when they age .
Sure , some people might get the short end of the stick ( I did when I was in HS and middle school , though I almost always walked to school ) , but I always thought it was part of growing up.While I do n't regret the way my high school years panned out , some social issues I 'm facing now would have certainly been made easier to deal with had I relaxed a little back then .
Being quiet and structured all the time has its flaws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a good thing in the sense that it gives students an opportunity to be more productive during a time that they normally wouldn't be.
However, being rowdy and stupid on the school bus is part of being a high-schooler.
Kids at that age should be loud and crazy, simply because they won't get the opportunity to do that elsewhere or when they age.
Sure, some people might get the short end of the stick (I did when I was in HS and middle school, though I almost always walked to school), but I always thought it was part of growing up.While I don't regret the way my high school years panned out, some social issues I'm facing now would have certainly been made easier to deal with had I relaxed a little back then.
Being quiet and structured all the time has its flaws.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31133322</id>
	<title>I got bullied in 7th grade</title>
	<author>hellop2</author>
	<datestamp>1266142560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>by this large 8th grader on the bus.  He pretty much bullied everyone.<br> <br>

One day I was ignoring his insults so he punched me in the arm.  I turned around and punched him in the nose with a solid left hook.  Blood splattered the back of the bus.<br> <br>

Never got bullied by him again.  Thanks Mom, for all those years of Tae Kwon Do starting at age 4.<br> <br>

I got suspended for 1 day.  Him, 3 days.  Mom didn't mind so much, as I followed her rule:  "You can defend yourself, but never throw the first punch."</htmltext>
<tokenext>by this large 8th grader on the bus .
He pretty much bullied everyone .
One day I was ignoring his insults so he punched me in the arm .
I turned around and punched him in the nose with a solid left hook .
Blood splattered the back of the bus .
Never got bullied by him again .
Thanks Mom , for all those years of Tae Kwon Do starting at age 4 .
I got suspended for 1 day .
Him , 3 days .
Mom did n't mind so much , as I followed her rule : " You can defend yourself , but never throw the first punch .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>by this large 8th grader on the bus.
He pretty much bullied everyone.
One day I was ignoring his insults so he punched me in the arm.
I turned around and punched him in the nose with a solid left hook.
Blood splattered the back of the bus.
Never got bullied by him again.
Thanks Mom, for all those years of Tae Kwon Do starting at age 4.
I got suspended for 1 day.
Him, 3 days.
Mom didn't mind so much, as I followed her rule:  "You can defend yourself, but never throw the first punch.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127796</id>
	<title>Re:behavioral problems have virtually disappeared</title>
	<author>JoeCommodore</author>
	<datestamp>1266083040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Me too</p><p>Part of school is the social dynamic; yeah I was a outcast nerd, but I got most of my meager mixed social experience from school.  It is one of the few controlled environments where you are forced together and taught to interact and communicate.  This is very important.</p><p>Also I have issues of children being distracted from the outside when in vehicles, I fear that might lead them to difficulty in paying attention to whats going on outside when they learn to drive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Me tooPart of school is the social dynamic ; yeah I was a outcast nerd , but I got most of my meager mixed social experience from school .
It is one of the few controlled environments where you are forced together and taught to interact and communicate .
This is very important.Also I have issues of children being distracted from the outside when in vehicles , I fear that might lead them to difficulty in paying attention to whats going on outside when they learn to drive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Me tooPart of school is the social dynamic; yeah I was a outcast nerd, but I got most of my meager mixed social experience from school.
It is one of the few controlled environments where you are forced together and taught to interact and communicate.
This is very important.Also I have issues of children being distracted from the outside when in vehicles, I fear that might lead them to difficulty in paying attention to whats going on outside when they learn to drive.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_1317249.31127528</id>
	<title>Re:mental and social development</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1266081000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>And I know most of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. probably got beaten up on the school bus, but that was also a part of finding our social circle and knowing how to behave around jocks and other idiots.</i></p><p>And part of that was jocks learning how to behave around normal people. I've had bosses who were jocks. Did they beat me up? No, they asked me for advice, 'cos that's what they were paying me for. One of the ways they learned that was by being around people who were actually doing geek stuff when they didn't have to.</p><p>Learning that you don't have to be a rowdy yobbo to have fun is useful. Who knows, maybe some of them will actually discover that it's handy to have a few geeks in their social circle earlier in life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I know most of / .
probably got beaten up on the school bus , but that was also a part of finding our social circle and knowing how to behave around jocks and other idiots.And part of that was jocks learning how to behave around normal people .
I 've had bosses who were jocks .
Did they beat me up ?
No , they asked me for advice , 'cos that 's what they were paying me for .
One of the ways they learned that was by being around people who were actually doing geek stuff when they did n't have to.Learning that you do n't have to be a rowdy yobbo to have fun is useful .
Who knows , maybe some of them will actually discover that it 's handy to have a few geeks in their social circle earlier in life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I know most of /.
probably got beaten up on the school bus, but that was also a part of finding our social circle and knowing how to behave around jocks and other idiots.And part of that was jocks learning how to behave around normal people.
I've had bosses who were jocks.
Did they beat me up?
No, they asked me for advice, 'cos that's what they were paying me for.
One of the ways they learned that was by being around people who were actually doing geek stuff when they didn't have to.Learning that you don't have to be a rowdy yobbo to have fun is useful.
Who knows, maybe some of them will actually discover that it's handy to have a few geeks in their social circle earlier in life.</sentencetext>
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