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	<title>Armed Robot Drones To Join UK Police Force</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1265916240000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Lanxon writes <i>"British criminals should soon prepare to be shot at from unmanned airborne police robots. Last month it was revealed that modified military aircraft drones will carry out surveillance on everyone from British protesters and antisocial motorists to fly-tippers. But these drones could be armed with <a href="http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-02/10/future-police-meet-the-uk's-armed-robot-drones.aspx">tasers, non-lethal projectiles and ultra-powerful disorienting strobe lighting apparatus</a>, reports Wired. The flying robot fleet will range from miniature tactical craft such as the miniature AirRobot being tested by one police force, to BAE System's new 12m-wide armed HERTI drone as flown in Afghanistan."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lanxon writes " British criminals should soon prepare to be shot at from unmanned airborne police robots .
Last month it was revealed that modified military aircraft drones will carry out surveillance on everyone from British protesters and antisocial motorists to fly-tippers .
But these drones could be armed with tasers , non-lethal projectiles and ultra-powerful disorienting strobe lighting apparatus , reports Wired .
The flying robot fleet will range from miniature tactical craft such as the miniature AirRobot being tested by one police force , to BAE System 's new 12m-wide armed HERTI drone as flown in Afghanistan .
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<sentencetext>Lanxon writes "British criminals should soon prepare to be shot at from unmanned airborne police robots.
Last month it was revealed that modified military aircraft drones will carry out surveillance on everyone from British protesters and antisocial motorists to fly-tippers.
But these drones could be armed with tasers, non-lethal projectiles and ultra-powerful disorienting strobe lighting apparatus, reports Wired.
The flying robot fleet will range from miniature tactical craft such as the miniature AirRobot being tested by one police force, to BAE System's new 12m-wide armed HERTI drone as flown in Afghanistan.
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	<title>Re:Timeline</title>
	<author>peragrin</author>
	<datestamp>1265891100000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>the AI can be in a satellite remotely controlling the drones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the AI can be in a satellite remotely controlling the drones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the AI can be in a satellite remotely controlling the drones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
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	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265901240000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Now I'm confused. Am I supposed to shout "Hor-ry-wooyd! Hor-r-y-wooyd!", or "Fourth of July!". Actually, for once, The Marseillaise might be a bit more adequate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I 'm confused .
Am I supposed to shout " Hor-ry-wooyd !
Hor-r-y-wooyd ! " , or " Fourth of July ! " .
Actually , for once , The Marseillaise might be a bit more adequate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I'm confused.
Am I supposed to shout "Hor-ry-wooyd!
Hor-r-y-wooyd!", or "Fourth of July!".
Actually, for once, The Marseillaise might be a bit more adequate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097944</id>
	<title>Re:"Shot," not "shot at."</title>
	<author>KDR\_11k</author>
	<datestamp>1265890860000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>We're talking about small UAVs, not full on gunships. Too far away for a rifle and too small for a chaingun turret.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're talking about small UAVs , not full on gunships .
Too far away for a rifle and too small for a chaingun turret .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're talking about small UAVs, not full on gunships.
Too far away for a rifle and too small for a chaingun turret.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31099964</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>ex\_ottoyuhr</author>
	<datestamp>1265905680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>As someone who's read Theodore Dalrymple, PC "David Copperfield," and so on, I'd say that even when they complete it, it won't help. The English government (and the Scottish one, from what I understand) is desperate to restore some form of order, but doesn't have the will to shred some of its bureaucracy and increase police patrols in the orthodox Giuliani fashion. Stuffing the country to the gills with thoughtscreens hasn't been an adequate substitute for that, so I doubt that stuffing it with war droids will be either -- although in both of these cases, countries both more cruel and more competent than Great Britain will probably take to the new technologies with abandon. (I'm looking at China, of course...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who 's read Theodore Dalrymple , PC " David Copperfield , " and so on , I 'd say that even when they complete it , it wo n't help .
The English government ( and the Scottish one , from what I understand ) is desperate to restore some form of order , but does n't have the will to shred some of its bureaucracy and increase police patrols in the orthodox Giuliani fashion .
Stuffing the country to the gills with thoughtscreens has n't been an adequate substitute for that , so I doubt that stuffing it with war droids will be either -- although in both of these cases , countries both more cruel and more competent than Great Britain will probably take to the new technologies with abandon .
( I 'm looking at China , of course... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who's read Theodore Dalrymple, PC "David Copperfield," and so on, I'd say that even when they complete it, it won't help.
The English government (and the Scottish one, from what I understand) is desperate to restore some form of order, but doesn't have the will to shred some of its bureaucracy and increase police patrols in the orthodox Giuliani fashion.
Stuffing the country to the gills with thoughtscreens hasn't been an adequate substitute for that, so I doubt that stuffing it with war droids will be either -- although in both of these cases, countries both more cruel and more competent than Great Britain will probably take to the new technologies with abandon.
(I'm looking at China, of course...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31099520</id>
	<title>Civil Protection in Half-Life 2</title>
	<author>crow5599</author>
	<datestamp>1265903580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>I couldn't help being reminded of Civil Protection's technology in Half-Life 2. If you've played even the very first level, you'll remember the flying scanners that strobe you and take your picture: <a href="http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/City\_Scanner" title="wikia.com" rel="nofollow">http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/City\_Scanner</a> [wikia.com] </p><p>I suppose the drones described in the story are a combination of those scanners and Manhacks, except the drones probably can't fly too low. Of course, with miniaturization<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could n't help being reminded of Civil Protection 's technology in Half-Life 2 .
If you 've played even the very first level , you 'll remember the flying scanners that strobe you and take your picture : http : //half-life.wikia.com/wiki/City \ _Scanner [ wikia.com ] I suppose the drones described in the story are a combination of those scanners and Manhacks , except the drones probably ca n't fly too low .
Of course , with miniaturization .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I couldn't help being reminded of Civil Protection's technology in Half-Life 2.
If you've played even the very first level, you'll remember the flying scanners that strobe you and take your picture: http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/City\_Scanner [wikia.com] I suppose the drones described in the story are a combination of those scanners and Manhacks, except the drones probably can't fly too low.
Of course, with miniaturization ...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>rabbitfood</author>
	<datestamp>1265886300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...but the idea of armed police is an absolute no go...launching Tasers from the sky would be public relations disaster.</p></div><p>
First, the UK's armed police is significantly on the rise (for the Met, deployments have risen over 50\% in six years, despite firearm incidents falling), and they're almost part of the landscape in London. Most of them are still static patrols of high-profile locations, but the Met has been actively planning for <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/22/armed-police-london" title="guardian.co.uk" rel="nofollow">routine armed patrols</a> [guardian.co.uk].
</p><p>
The UK Police also seem immune to legal boundaries - their retention of DNA and the use of 'stop-and-search' have both been ruled illegal, with no discernible effect to date. More worryingly, even in high-profile cases of physical abuse, manslaughter and credit-card fraud, officers have been quietly rewarded rather than disciplined.
</p><p>
Secondly, they're getting much better at PR. If the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/22/armed-police-london" title="guardian.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Guardian</a> [guardian.co.uk] is right, they started using the spy drones to scour the coast for immigrants: "There is potential for these [maritime] uses to be projected as a 'good news' story to the public rather than more 'big brother'." And, since then, they've been <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/8185165.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">practicing on the BNP</a> [bbc.co.uk] (paradoxically an anti-immigration minority party with a poor reputation).
</p><p>
It would be utterly wrong to conclude that the UK police are power-hungry, trigger-happy thugs with mental deficiencies, lethal toys, immunity from sanction and slick PR skills. But it would be incautious not to consider the possibility.</p></div>
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<tokenext>...but the idea of armed police is an absolute no go...launching Tasers from the sky would be public relations disaster .
First , the UK 's armed police is significantly on the rise ( for the Met , deployments have risen over 50 \ % in six years , despite firearm incidents falling ) , and they 're almost part of the landscape in London .
Most of them are still static patrols of high-profile locations , but the Met has been actively planning for routine armed patrols [ guardian.co.uk ] .
The UK Police also seem immune to legal boundaries - their retention of DNA and the use of 'stop-and-search ' have both been ruled illegal , with no discernible effect to date .
More worryingly , even in high-profile cases of physical abuse , manslaughter and credit-card fraud , officers have been quietly rewarded rather than disciplined .
Secondly , they 're getting much better at PR .
If the Guardian [ guardian.co.uk ] is right , they started using the spy drones to scour the coast for immigrants : " There is potential for these [ maritime ] uses to be projected as a 'good news ' story to the public rather than more 'big brother' .
" And , since then , they 've been practicing on the BNP [ bbc.co.uk ] ( paradoxically an anti-immigration minority party with a poor reputation ) .
It would be utterly wrong to conclude that the UK police are power-hungry , trigger-happy thugs with mental deficiencies , lethal toys , immunity from sanction and slick PR skills .
But it would be incautious not to consider the possibility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...but the idea of armed police is an absolute no go...launching Tasers from the sky would be public relations disaster.
First, the UK's armed police is significantly on the rise (for the Met, deployments have risen over 50\% in six years, despite firearm incidents falling), and they're almost part of the landscape in London.
Most of them are still static patrols of high-profile locations, but the Met has been actively planning for routine armed patrols [guardian.co.uk].
The UK Police also seem immune to legal boundaries - their retention of DNA and the use of 'stop-and-search' have both been ruled illegal, with no discernible effect to date.
More worryingly, even in high-profile cases of physical abuse, manslaughter and credit-card fraud, officers have been quietly rewarded rather than disciplined.
Secondly, they're getting much better at PR.
If the Guardian [guardian.co.uk] is right, they started using the spy drones to scour the coast for immigrants: "There is potential for these [maritime] uses to be projected as a 'good news' story to the public rather than more 'big brother'.
" And, since then, they've been practicing on the BNP [bbc.co.uk] (paradoxically an anti-immigration minority party with a poor reputation).
It would be utterly wrong to conclude that the UK police are power-hungry, trigger-happy thugs with mental deficiencies, lethal toys, immunity from sanction and slick PR skills.
But it would be incautious not to consider the possibility.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097342</id>
	<title>An interesting book</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265884080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>The title is The Technology of Political Control., written in 1977 by Carol Ackroyd, Karen Margolis, Jonathan Rosenhead, Tim Shallice. Penguin Paperback, ISBN 0140219439</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The title is The Technology of Political Control. , written in 1977 by Carol Ackroyd , Karen Margolis , Jonathan Rosenhead , Tim Shallice .
Penguin Paperback , ISBN 0140219439</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The title is The Technology of Political Control., written in 1977 by Carol Ackroyd, Karen Margolis, Jonathan Rosenhead, Tim Shallice.
Penguin Paperback, ISBN 0140219439</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097686</id>
	<title>If they're flying around...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265888040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>How are we going to throw flaming tyres on them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How are we going to throw flaming tyres on them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How are we going to throw flaming tyres on them?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097002</id>
	<title>Bring it on!</title>
	<author>lorg</author>
	<datestamp>1265879220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll just quote myself from two weeks ago<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Guess it took less then a month for the idea to go from "surveilance" to "armed reponsons". I do wonder what the next step will be; perhaps a little printer so it can give you a ticket right then and there.</p><p>"Since most police officers in the UK dont carry firearms this would or could be a faster response then sending out the Armed response vehicles. So I do wonder how long it will take them to arm the drones, after all what harm could that possibly do<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... That way you can stop all them tractor thieves and cashpoint burglers dead in the their tracks."</p><p>Could be tasers. Why stop there, let us go for missiles (to much collateral damage tho) and chainguns (not sure it could take one of those - probably to large and shakes to much etc) while we are at it. BRING IT ON!</p></div>
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<tokenext>I 'll just quote myself from two weeks ago ... Guess it took less then a month for the idea to go from " surveilance " to " armed reponsons " .
I do wonder what the next step will be ; perhaps a little printer so it can give you a ticket right then and there .
" Since most police officers in the UK dont carry firearms this would or could be a faster response then sending out the Armed response vehicles .
So I do wonder how long it will take them to arm the drones , after all what harm could that possibly do ... That way you can stop all them tractor thieves and cashpoint burglers dead in the their tracks .
" Could be tasers .
Why stop there , let us go for missiles ( to much collateral damage tho ) and chainguns ( not sure it could take one of those - probably to large and shakes to much etc ) while we are at it .
BRING IT ON !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll just quote myself from two weeks ago ... Guess it took less then a month for the idea to go from "surveilance" to "armed reponsons".
I do wonder what the next step will be; perhaps a little printer so it can give you a ticket right then and there.
"Since most police officers in the UK dont carry firearms this would or could be a faster response then sending out the Armed response vehicles.
So I do wonder how long it will take them to arm the drones, after all what harm could that possibly do ... That way you can stop all them tractor thieves and cashpoint burglers dead in the their tracks.
"Could be tasers.
Why stop there, let us go for missiles (to much collateral damage tho) and chainguns (not sure it could take one of those - probably to large and shakes to much etc) while we are at it.
BRING IT ON!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097218</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Rollgunner</author>
	<datestamp>1265882400000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Anything sub-lethal will be childishly easy to defeat, once it's been seen in action a few times.  </p></div><p>
Yeah, all you have to do to defeat a Bucha Effect weapon is to turn off your central nervous system!</p></div>
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<tokenext>Anything sub-lethal will be childishly easy to defeat , once it 's been seen in action a few times .
Yeah , all you have to do to defeat a Bucha Effect weapon is to turn off your central nervous system !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Anything sub-lethal will be childishly easy to defeat, once it's been seen in action a few times.
Yeah, all you have to do to defeat a Bucha Effect weapon is to turn off your central nervous system!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097788</id>
	<title>Re:It's a 'topia sir, but not one of the good ones</title>
	<author>buttle2000</author>
	<datestamp>1265889120000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Dude, you hit the nail on the head. Have you seen 'Children of Men'?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , you hit the nail on the head .
Have you seen 'Children of Men ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, you hit the nail on the head.
Have you seen 'Children of Men'?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I wonder if the robot is a cousin of that one..</title>
	<author>Estragib</author>
	<datestamp>1265972160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue\_Thunder" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">this one</a> [wikipedia.org]. Funny that it was considered completely no-go back then while it will hardly raise an eyebrow today.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or this one [ wikipedia.org ] .
Funny that it was considered completely no-go back then while it will hardly raise an eyebrow today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or this one [wikipedia.org].
Funny that it was considered completely no-go back then while it will hardly raise an eyebrow today.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096910</id>
	<title>It's a 'topia sir, but not one of the good ones...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265921640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Dammit you guys...</p><p>1984 and Brazil (movie not country) are not bloody HOWTO guides!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dammit you guys...1984 and Brazil ( movie not country ) are not bloody HOWTO guides !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dammit you guys...1984 and Brazil (movie not country) are not bloody HOWTO guides!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096990</id>
	<title>But...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265879100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>will the armed robot drones run Linux?</htmltext>
<tokenext>will the armed robot drones run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>will the armed robot drones run Linux?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097112</id>
	<title>Re:I wonder if the robot is a cousin of that one..</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1265880420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>I think that is acutally a depiction of the iRobot Warrior. Same company that makes roombas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that is acutally a depiction of the iRobot Warrior .
Same company that makes roombas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that is acutally a depiction of the iRobot Warrior.
Same company that makes roombas.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098322</id>
	<title>Different take on police</title>
	<author>bsDaemon</author>
	<datestamp>1265896020000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I hate cops as much, if not more than anyone, so I'm not trying to defend them.  However, it seems to me that crap like this, which, if it does get tried in the US, at least doesn't get so much press, is probably due to the fact that most of your police in the UK aren't themselves armed.  In the US, they've all got pistols and most of them carry at least a shotgun, if not an AR-15, in their cruiser.  They wear bullet-proof vests a lot of the time and can just suck it up and take risks themselves without needing to resort to this sort of crap.<br><br>Do flying missile drones make sense in a place like Afghanistan where trying to get from place to place under general terms is sort of a bitch?  Yes.  Does using outright military technology to police the local population make sense?  Not on your life, but then again, what would one expect from a country that oppressed a third of the world with the use of their military power?  Of course, now that the ripened fruits of colonialism have come home to roost and the battle has been turned inward, this is what you get.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate cops as much , if not more than anyone , so I 'm not trying to defend them .
However , it seems to me that crap like this , which , if it does get tried in the US , at least does n't get so much press , is probably due to the fact that most of your police in the UK are n't themselves armed .
In the US , they 've all got pistols and most of them carry at least a shotgun , if not an AR-15 , in their cruiser .
They wear bullet-proof vests a lot of the time and can just suck it up and take risks themselves without needing to resort to this sort of crap.Do flying missile drones make sense in a place like Afghanistan where trying to get from place to place under general terms is sort of a bitch ?
Yes. Does using outright military technology to police the local population make sense ?
Not on your life , but then again , what would one expect from a country that oppressed a third of the world with the use of their military power ?
Of course , now that the ripened fruits of colonialism have come home to roost and the battle has been turned inward , this is what you get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate cops as much, if not more than anyone, so I'm not trying to defend them.
However, it seems to me that crap like this, which, if it does get tried in the US, at least doesn't get so much press, is probably due to the fact that most of your police in the UK aren't themselves armed.
In the US, they've all got pistols and most of them carry at least a shotgun, if not an AR-15, in their cruiser.
They wear bullet-proof vests a lot of the time and can just suck it up and take risks themselves without needing to resort to this sort of crap.Do flying missile drones make sense in a place like Afghanistan where trying to get from place to place under general terms is sort of a bitch?
Yes.  Does using outright military technology to police the local population make sense?
Not on your life, but then again, what would one expect from a country that oppressed a third of the world with the use of their military power?
Of course, now that the ripened fruits of colonialism have come home to roost and the battle has been turned inward, this is what you get.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097760</id>
	<title>Re:Rubber bungs</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1265888880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>deafen the target with a jarring, discordant noise.</p></div><p>I'll take the Pepsi Challenge against one of these devices compared with <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJzWtTB7oYE" title="youtube.com">The Berzerker</a> [youtube.com] in concert any day of the week.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>deafen the target with a jarring , discordant noise.I 'll take the Pepsi Challenge against one of these devices compared with The Berzerker [ youtube.com ] in concert any day of the week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>deafen the target with a jarring, discordant noise.I'll take the Pepsi Challenge against one of these devices compared with The Berzerker [youtube.com] in concert any day of the week.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097408</id>
	<title>something new</title>
	<author>Atreide</author>
	<datestamp>1265884920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>after bobbies<br>here come robbies<br>to catch robbers<br>raised with teletubbies</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>after bobbieshere come robbiesto catch robbersraised with teletubbies</tokentext>
<sentencetext>after bobbieshere come robbiesto catch robbersraised with teletubbies</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096772</id>
	<title>I wonder if the robot is a cousin of that one...</title>
	<author>ls671</author>
	<datestamp>1265920200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if the robot is a cousin of that one...</p><p><a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/07/28/2012218/Londons-Robotic-Fire-Brigade" title="slashdot.org">http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/07/28/2012218/Londons-Robotic-Fire-Brigade</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>The one in the TFA seems to have tracks instead of wheels but they seem similar. Same company building them maybe ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if the robot is a cousin of that one...http : //hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/07/28/2012218/Londons-Robotic-Fire-Brigade [ slashdot.org ] The one in the TFA seems to have tracks instead of wheels but they seem similar .
Same company building them maybe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if the robot is a cousin of that one...http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/07/28/2012218/Londons-Robotic-Fire-Brigade [slashdot.org]The one in the TFA seems to have tracks instead of wheels but they seem similar.
Same company building them maybe ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097544</id>
	<title>Re:Timeline</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1265886660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does a remotely piloted aircraft even qualify as a Robot?</p><p>Its not like these things are autonomous or have even the remotest capability of independent decision making.<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE\_HERTI" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE\_HERTI</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does a remotely piloted aircraft even qualify as a Robot ? Its not like these things are autonomous or have even the remotest capability of independent decision making.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE \ _HERTI [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does a remotely piloted aircraft even qualify as a Robot?Its not like these things are autonomous or have even the remotest capability of independent decision making.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE\_HERTI [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097884</id>
	<title>Wonder how long it'd be...</title>
	<author>spike1</author>
	<datestamp>1265890200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Before some enterprising young cracker decyphered their radio control signal, took one over and crashed it into the house of commons, preferebly through one of the windows so they could set off the strobe/taser/deafening noise during prime minister's question time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Before some enterprising young cracker decyphered their radio control signal , took one over and crashed it into the house of commons , preferebly through one of the windows so they could set off the strobe/taser/deafening noise during prime minister 's question time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before some enterprising young cracker decyphered their radio control signal, took one over and crashed it into the house of commons, preferebly through one of the windows so they could set off the strobe/taser/deafening noise during prime minister's question time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097992</id>
	<title>Re:"Shot," not "shot at."</title>
	<author>neumayr</author>
	<datestamp>1265891460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll implement adaptive difficulty levels, I'm sure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll implement adaptive difficulty levels , I 'm sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll implement adaptive difficulty levels, I'm sure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097908</id>
	<title>Re:Now why does it reminds me of OCP corp?</title>
	<author>KDR\_11k</author>
	<datestamp>1265890440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Forget the enforcement aspect, if they could get away with it marketers would saturate the airspace with drones blaring their advertisements.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Forget the enforcement aspect , if they could get away with it marketers would saturate the airspace with drones blaring their advertisements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forget the enforcement aspect, if they could get away with it marketers would saturate the airspace with drones blaring their advertisements.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097030</id>
	<title>sluggyfreelance in the comics slashbox</title>
	<author>astar</author>
	<datestamp>1265879520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>herti-corp</p><p>but more seriously</p><p>BAE is the second largest defense contractor in the world.  It got caught doing bribery years back and promised not to do it any more.  But of course it did and lied about it.  The big bribe lately was a bribe of the Saudis on maybe a 43 billion dollar deal., which is even discussed in the bribee's autobiography.</p><p>Now you might think BAE might get their ticket pulled.  But on the brit side, BAE is key to their global strategy and on the usa side, a real investigation of the saudi deal would yield information on how the bribe was spent, which would be troublesome with respect to 9/11.  So everyone gave BAE a  nice plea deal, where BAE pays a few hundred million dollars for lying about bribery, but the charge does not mention bribery.</p><p>Of course Obama should have nixed the plea bargin, but the deal was so wired and had been in the works so long, only Obama could have nixed it.  It is worth noting, but it is almost pointless to complain very much.  Still, crushing BAE would have been helpful.</p><p>wikipedia under BAE-Systems has a lot on BAE.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>herti-corpbut more seriouslyBAE is the second largest defense contractor in the world .
It got caught doing bribery years back and promised not to do it any more .
But of course it did and lied about it .
The big bribe lately was a bribe of the Saudis on maybe a 43 billion dollar deal. , which is even discussed in the bribee 's autobiography.Now you might think BAE might get their ticket pulled .
But on the brit side , BAE is key to their global strategy and on the usa side , a real investigation of the saudi deal would yield information on how the bribe was spent , which would be troublesome with respect to 9/11 .
So everyone gave BAE a nice plea deal , where BAE pays a few hundred million dollars for lying about bribery , but the charge does not mention bribery.Of course Obama should have nixed the plea bargin , but the deal was so wired and had been in the works so long , only Obama could have nixed it .
It is worth noting , but it is almost pointless to complain very much .
Still , crushing BAE would have been helpful.wikipedia under BAE-Systems has a lot on BAE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>herti-corpbut more seriouslyBAE is the second largest defense contractor in the world.
It got caught doing bribery years back and promised not to do it any more.
But of course it did and lied about it.
The big bribe lately was a bribe of the Saudis on maybe a 43 billion dollar deal., which is even discussed in the bribee's autobiography.Now you might think BAE might get their ticket pulled.
But on the brit side, BAE is key to their global strategy and on the usa side, a real investigation of the saudi deal would yield information on how the bribe was spent, which would be troublesome with respect to 9/11.
So everyone gave BAE a  nice plea deal, where BAE pays a few hundred million dollars for lying about bribery, but the charge does not mention bribery.Of course Obama should have nixed the plea bargin, but the deal was so wired and had been in the works so long, only Obama could have nixed it.
It is worth noting, but it is almost pointless to complain very much.
Still, crushing BAE would have been helpful.wikipedia under BAE-Systems has a lot on BAE.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31113792</id>
	<title>Orwell Just A Few Decades Off</title>
	<author>gpronger</author>
	<datestamp>1265993640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, but the British approach to security is getting way to close to Orwell's 1984. Seems he may have simply been off by a few decades. Between the level of public video surveillance and now armed flying robots, they'll soon have two way TV's that don't turn off (though a lot of folks leave their PC on, and have a video camera on their monitor already) complete with one channel, and a better understanding of INGSOC.(Posted a moment ago anonymously by accident.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but the British approach to security is getting way to close to Orwell 's 1984 .
Seems he may have simply been off by a few decades .
Between the level of public video surveillance and now armed flying robots , they 'll soon have two way TV 's that do n't turn off ( though a lot of folks leave their PC on , and have a video camera on their monitor already ) complete with one channel , and a better understanding of INGSOC .
( Posted a moment ago anonymously by accident .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but the British approach to security is getting way to close to Orwell's 1984.
Seems he may have simply been off by a few decades.
Between the level of public video surveillance and now armed flying robots, they'll soon have two way TV's that don't turn off (though a lot of folks leave their PC on, and have a video camera on their monitor already) complete with one channel, and a better understanding of INGSOC.
(Posted a moment ago anonymously by accident.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31101826</id>
	<title>How convenient</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265914980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So it's because of the police's image that this won't happen, and not because of the citizens' rights &amp; safety?  Well, it's convenient at least...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So it 's because of the police 's image that this wo n't happen , and not because of the citizens ' rights &amp; safety ?
Well , it 's convenient at least.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it's because of the police's image that this won't happen, and not because of the citizens' rights &amp; safety?
Well, it's convenient at least...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097232</id>
	<title>Am I the only one who thinks...</title>
	<author>lxs</author>
	<datestamp>1265882700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That flying ultra-powerful strobes are perfect for an outdoor rave?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That flying ultra-powerful strobes are perfect for an outdoor rave ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That flying ultra-powerful strobes are perfect for an outdoor rave?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098194</id>
	<title>Obligatory....</title>
	<author>Ralz</author>
	<datestamp>1265894520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stop right there criminal scum!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stop right there criminal scum !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stop right there criminal scum!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31099194</id>
	<title>This is ridiculous</title>
	<author>JustNiz</author>
	<datestamp>1265901780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm glad I emigrated from the UK. I despair how the government have totally undermined any notion of personal rights and freedom and the police are allowed to use military weapons and surveillance against innocent citizens.</p><p>The whole "ability to reduce crime" with these things is a cover up. There have been plenty of studies which all (re)discover that the most effective activity to lower crime is simple community policing, meaning cops on foot patrol and on bicycles, explicitly not sat in cars and hiding behind cameras.</p><p>Its clear the real reason the police want these is just to extract even more money through bullying motorists. Road users are a soft target with lots of money. They're a lot easier, safer and more profitable to go after than actual criminals.</p><p>I really hope everyone in the UK gets busy making EMP devices, and turns hunting these things into a sport like pheasant shooting. Except I already know that nobody will do anything because the British spirit has already been beaten up so badly that the people are divided and conquered, and just totally submissive to anything now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm glad I emigrated from the UK .
I despair how the government have totally undermined any notion of personal rights and freedom and the police are allowed to use military weapons and surveillance against innocent citizens.The whole " ability to reduce crime " with these things is a cover up .
There have been plenty of studies which all ( re ) discover that the most effective activity to lower crime is simple community policing , meaning cops on foot patrol and on bicycles , explicitly not sat in cars and hiding behind cameras.Its clear the real reason the police want these is just to extract even more money through bullying motorists .
Road users are a soft target with lots of money .
They 're a lot easier , safer and more profitable to go after than actual criminals.I really hope everyone in the UK gets busy making EMP devices , and turns hunting these things into a sport like pheasant shooting .
Except I already know that nobody will do anything because the British spirit has already been beaten up so badly that the people are divided and conquered , and just totally submissive to anything now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm glad I emigrated from the UK.
I despair how the government have totally undermined any notion of personal rights and freedom and the police are allowed to use military weapons and surveillance against innocent citizens.The whole "ability to reduce crime" with these things is a cover up.
There have been plenty of studies which all (re)discover that the most effective activity to lower crime is simple community policing, meaning cops on foot patrol and on bicycles, explicitly not sat in cars and hiding behind cameras.Its clear the real reason the police want these is just to extract even more money through bullying motorists.
Road users are a soft target with lots of money.
They're a lot easier, safer and more profitable to go after than actual criminals.I really hope everyone in the UK gets busy making EMP devices, and turns hunting these things into a sport like pheasant shooting.
Except I already know that nobody will do anything because the British spirit has already been beaten up so badly that the people are divided and conquered, and just totally submissive to anything now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097154</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265881200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bring it on!<br>Birdstrikes (think Trafalgar Sq), hitting power lines and the like, downdrafts between big buildings, or letting a RC model do a banzai run. I suppose they will do a Bruce Willis and fly down and into the tube system too.Not to mention wont work in FOG - just like the idiot who thought up this one.<br>Now fox hunting is out, country squires can have a bit more target practice.</p><p>Going to look great mounted on a bedroom wall, or auctioned off on ebay</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bring it on ! Birdstrikes ( think Trafalgar Sq ) , hitting power lines and the like , downdrafts between big buildings , or letting a RC model do a banzai run .
I suppose they will do a Bruce Willis and fly down and into the tube system too.Not to mention wont work in FOG - just like the idiot who thought up this one.Now fox hunting is out , country squires can have a bit more target practice.Going to look great mounted on a bedroom wall , or auctioned off on ebay</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bring it on!Birdstrikes (think Trafalgar Sq), hitting power lines and the like, downdrafts between big buildings, or letting a RC model do a banzai run.
I suppose they will do a Bruce Willis and fly down and into the tube system too.Not to mention wont work in FOG - just like the idiot who thought up this one.Now fox hunting is out, country squires can have a bit more target practice.Going to look great mounted on a bedroom wall, or auctioned off on ebay</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096976</id>
	<title>Re:Timeline</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265878980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>February 12 @ 1:24 PM: Humanoid Robots with Sunglasses talk funny Austrian Accent</htmltext>
<tokenext>February 12 @ 1 : 24 PM : Humanoid Robots with Sunglasses talk funny Austrian Accent</tokentext>
<sentencetext>February 12 @ 1:24 PM: Humanoid Robots with Sunglasses talk funny Austrian Accent</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31107000</id>
	<title>Re:Not as good as real cops</title>
	<author>Reziac</author>
	<datestamp>1265891100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Certainly they could. All it would take is targeting any citizens who act in a specified manner, such as running down the street, or jaywalking, or whatever is this week's "antisocial" behaviour. Or alternatively, targeting everyone who deviates from the allowed activities. No need to make lame personal excuses for a robot, either... you can always blame a malfunction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Certainly they could .
All it would take is targeting any citizens who act in a specified manner , such as running down the street , or jaywalking , or whatever is this week 's " antisocial " behaviour .
Or alternatively , targeting everyone who deviates from the allowed activities .
No need to make lame personal excuses for a robot , either... you can always blame a malfunction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Certainly they could.
All it would take is targeting any citizens who act in a specified manner, such as running down the street, or jaywalking, or whatever is this week's "antisocial" behaviour.
Or alternatively, targeting everyone who deviates from the allowed activities.
No need to make lame personal excuses for a robot, either... you can always blame a malfunction.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31100964</id>
	<title>Re:This issue concerns YRO</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265910360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your Robot Overlords.<br>Duh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your Robot Overlords.Duh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your Robot Overlords.Duh.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31102374</id>
	<title>Hard to fathom</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1265916900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>that this is the same culture that produces <i>Top Gear.</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>that this is the same culture that produces Top Gear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that this is the same culture that produces Top Gear.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097480</id>
	<title>Soooo...</title>
	<author>gaelfx</author>
	<datestamp>1265886000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...what they're trying to say is they're increasing their police force? Or are these robots not standard-issue Englishmen?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...what they 're trying to say is they 're increasing their police force ?
Or are these robots not standard-issue Englishmen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...what they're trying to say is they're increasing their police force?
Or are these robots not standard-issue Englishmen?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097018</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>iamapizza</author>
	<datestamp>1265879340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>And because it's Britain, there isn't much to worry about.  The project will be delayed by 8 years, overrun its budget by about 12 Million GBP.  They'll come up with a crap logo for it as they did for the Olympics, and within a few hours of launch, the drones will malfunction and start tasering trees; eventually the whole project will be scrapped for health and safety reasons, I mean, what if the tree falls on someone while it's being tasered?</htmltext>
<tokenext>And because it 's Britain , there is n't much to worry about .
The project will be delayed by 8 years , overrun its budget by about 12 Million GBP .
They 'll come up with a crap logo for it as they did for the Olympics , and within a few hours of launch , the drones will malfunction and start tasering trees ; eventually the whole project will be scrapped for health and safety reasons , I mean , what if the tree falls on someone while it 's being tasered ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And because it's Britain, there isn't much to worry about.
The project will be delayed by 8 years, overrun its budget by about 12 Million GBP.
They'll come up with a crap logo for it as they did for the Olympics, and within a few hours of launch, the drones will malfunction and start tasering trees; eventually the whole project will be scrapped for health and safety reasons, I mean, what if the tree falls on someone while it's being tasered?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096916</id>
	<title>Well I for one...</title>
	<author>Anarki2004</author>
	<datestamp>1265921700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you know where this is going...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you know where this is going.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you know where this is going...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097742</id>
	<title>It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear ...</title>
	<author>Zumbs</author>
	<datestamp>1265888700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead</i><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... or stopped protesting the government. On a more serious note, why is it that governments and military seems to want to place weapons in the hands of robots? Yes, yes, it is easier to get a robot to fire on the "enemy" (particularly if that enemy is a civilian), but I would very much like to not have a cylon uprising, thank you very much. Asimov had a reason for building his fictional robots with his three laws of robotics. Yes, a bit naive, given how power structures work, but a good sort of naive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It ca n't be bargained with .
It ca n't be reasoned with .
It does n't feel pity , or remorse , or fear .
And it absolutely will not stop , ever , until you are dead ... or stopped protesting the government .
On a more serious note , why is it that governments and military seems to want to place weapons in the hands of robots ?
Yes , yes , it is easier to get a robot to fire on the " enemy " ( particularly if that enemy is a civilian ) , but I would very much like to not have a cylon uprising , thank you very much .
Asimov had a reason for building his fictional robots with his three laws of robotics .
Yes , a bit naive , given how power structures work , but a good sort of naive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It can't be bargained with.
It can't be reasoned with.
It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear.
And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead ... or stopped protesting the government.
On a more serious note, why is it that governments and military seems to want to place weapons in the hands of robots?
Yes, yes, it is easier to get a robot to fire on the "enemy" (particularly if that enemy is a civilian), but I would very much like to not have a cylon uprising, thank you very much.
Asimov had a reason for building his fictional robots with his three laws of robotics.
Yes, a bit naive, given how power structures work, but a good sort of naive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096758</id>
	<title>This issue concerns YRO</title>
	<author>BhaKi</author>
	<datestamp>1265920020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your Rights Offline</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your Rights Offline</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your Rights Offline</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097572</id>
	<title>Not as good as real cops</title>
	<author>dugeen</author>
	<datestamp>1265887020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll never program robots to have the hatred, malice and spite of real coppers. Maybe a robot could gun down an unarmed man on a tube station platform, but could it convincingly circulate a wholly misleading account of events afterwards? And then, after the inquest, issue a press release basically saying "We don't care, we'll do it again if we feel like it".</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll never program robots to have the hatred , malice and spite of real coppers .
Maybe a robot could gun down an unarmed man on a tube station platform , but could it convincingly circulate a wholly misleading account of events afterwards ?
And then , after the inquest , issue a press release basically saying " We do n't care , we 'll do it again if we feel like it " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll never program robots to have the hatred, malice and spite of real coppers.
Maybe a robot could gun down an unarmed man on a tube station platform, but could it convincingly circulate a wholly misleading account of events afterwards?
And then, after the inquest, issue a press release basically saying "We don't care, we'll do it again if we feel like it".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31100704</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265908980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they run - they're VC! If they stay still - they're well-trained VC!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they run - they 're VC !
If they stay still - they 're well-trained VC !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they run - they're VC!
If they stay still - they're well-trained VC!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098662</id>
	<title>Re:Rubber bungs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265898960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The LRAD is a highly directional speaker made of a flat array of piezoelectric transducers, producing intense beam of sound in a 30-degree cone. It can be used as a loudhailer, or deafen the target with a jarring, discordant noise. Some ships now carry LRAD as an anti-pirate measure: It was used to drive off an attack on the Seabourn Spirit off Somalia in 2005.</p></div><p>Luckily the UK is the nation responsible for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFJGGhcz-uQ" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">bands link this</a> [youtube.com], and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWwW\_DYmxEw" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">also like this</a> [youtube.com] - we've been in training for years to resist this type of jarring, discordant noise.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The LRAD is a highly directional speaker made of a flat array of piezoelectric transducers , producing intense beam of sound in a 30-degree cone .
It can be used as a loudhailer , or deafen the target with a jarring , discordant noise .
Some ships now carry LRAD as an anti-pirate measure : It was used to drive off an attack on the Seabourn Spirit off Somalia in 2005.Luckily the UK is the nation responsible for bands link this [ youtube.com ] , and also like this [ youtube.com ] - we 've been in training for years to resist this type of jarring , discordant noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The LRAD is a highly directional speaker made of a flat array of piezoelectric transducers, producing intense beam of sound in a 30-degree cone.
It can be used as a loudhailer, or deafen the target with a jarring, discordant noise.
Some ships now carry LRAD as an anti-pirate measure: It was used to drive off an attack on the Seabourn Spirit off Somalia in 2005.Luckily the UK is the nation responsible for bands link this [youtube.com], and also like this [youtube.com] - we've been in training for years to resist this type of jarring, discordant noise.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097442</id>
	<title>Dark Angel</title>
	<author>zero0ne</author>
	<datestamp>1265885520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Straight out of the TV show...</p><p>Next thing you know, we will be experimenting with genetically modified super hot chicks that can kick ass and ride a bike to save the day and take out these drones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Straight out of the TV show...Next thing you know , we will be experimenting with genetically modified super hot chicks that can kick ass and ride a bike to save the day and take out these drones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Straight out of the TV show...Next thing you know, we will be experimenting with genetically modified super hot chicks that can kick ass and ride a bike to save the day and take out these drones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098868</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>WhatAmIDoingHere</author>
	<datestamp>1265900100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How long until the drones start leaking oil?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How long until the drones start leaking oil ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How long until the drones start leaking oil?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097082</id>
	<title>Re:What could possibly go wrong...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265880000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have thirty seconds to comply...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have thirty seconds to comply.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have thirty seconds to comply...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098686</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>Nadaka</author>
	<datestamp>1265899140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was thinking terminators, hunter killers to be specific.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was thinking terminators , hunter killers to be specific .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was thinking terminators, hunter killers to be specific.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097998</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1265891640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The british gov can deliver on weapons platforms, Al-Yamamah worked out just fine.<br>
Flying LRAD aimed at you will be creative.<br>
Old way was a on a truck <br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_EUU0BpQego" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_EUU0BpQego</a> [youtube.com] the fun starts at 1 min in.<br>
Or in the USA <br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSMyY3\_dmrM" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSMyY3\_dmrM</a> [youtube.com] <br>
If its used by the forward intelligence teams, <br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6im93mDOhFc" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6im93mDOhFc</a> [youtube.com] <br>
this will get very personal and direct.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The british gov can deliver on weapons platforms , Al-Yamamah worked out just fine .
Flying LRAD aimed at you will be creative .
Old way was a on a truck http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = \ _EUU0BpQego [ youtube.com ] the fun starts at 1 min in .
Or in the USA http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = QSMyY3 \ _dmrM [ youtube.com ] If its used by the forward intelligence teams , http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 6im93mDOhFc [ youtube.com ] this will get very personal and direct .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The british gov can deliver on weapons platforms, Al-Yamamah worked out just fine.
Flying LRAD aimed at you will be creative.
Old way was a on a truck 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_EUU0BpQego [youtube.com] the fun starts at 1 min in.
Or in the USA 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSMyY3\_dmrM [youtube.com] 
If its used by the forward intelligence teams, 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6im93mDOhFc [youtube.com] 
this will get very personal and direct.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097622</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>jjoelc</author>
	<datestamp>1265887440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great... so it is unlikely to happen in the UK... Cops here in America will be drooling all over as soon as the UK "proves" that this is a good idea. And other countries are even less likely to hold such qualms about it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great... so it is unlikely to happen in the UK... Cops here in America will be drooling all over as soon as the UK " proves " that this is a good idea .
And other countries are even less likely to hold such qualms about it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great... so it is unlikely to happen in the UK... Cops here in America will be drooling all over as soon as the UK "proves" that this is a good idea.
And other countries are even less likely to hold such qualms about it...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098024</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>Nathrael</author>
	<datestamp>1265891880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, I'm much less concerned about drones acting in dangerous situations than cops or soldiers.<br> <br>

If you find yourself under fire, you'll likely go fight-or-flight, and unless you're superbly trained and disciplined, you won't keep calm but fire at everything that might be the shooter. If you find your remotely-controlled drone under fire while you're comfortably sitting in front of a computer screen, the situation is different. Sure, losing a drone might not be great, but the decision between sacrificing a drone and possibly killing some innocent civilian is a no-brainer. Especially if you've got a lawyer standing right behind you, ensuring that you don't break any regulations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I 'm much less concerned about drones acting in dangerous situations than cops or soldiers .
If you find yourself under fire , you 'll likely go fight-or-flight , and unless you 're superbly trained and disciplined , you wo n't keep calm but fire at everything that might be the shooter .
If you find your remotely-controlled drone under fire while you 're comfortably sitting in front of a computer screen , the situation is different .
Sure , losing a drone might not be great , but the decision between sacrificing a drone and possibly killing some innocent civilian is a no-brainer .
Especially if you 've got a lawyer standing right behind you , ensuring that you do n't break any regulations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I'm much less concerned about drones acting in dangerous situations than cops or soldiers.
If you find yourself under fire, you'll likely go fight-or-flight, and unless you're superbly trained and disciplined, you won't keep calm but fire at everything that might be the shooter.
If you find your remotely-controlled drone under fire while you're comfortably sitting in front of a computer screen, the situation is different.
Sure, losing a drone might not be great, but the decision between sacrificing a drone and possibly killing some innocent civilian is a no-brainer.
Especially if you've got a lawyer standing right behind you, ensuring that you don't break any regulations.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097530</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1265886540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>2005 would like its analysis back.  Tasers are <a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23654341-met-police-use-tasers-against-26-teenagers.do" title="thisislondon.co.uk">now being issued and used by street Plod</a> [thisislondon.co.uk] in <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/1/hi/uk/7745137.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">many</a> [bbc.co.uk] <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/1/hi/scotland/glasgow\_and\_west/8496605.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">forces</a> [bbc.co.uk].

</p><p>How many of the taserings reported above did you read about "for weeks after"?  The beauty of taser is that it's the perfect punishment and compliance tool.  No big bruises, no lasting damage except in rare cases, where the excuse is always "underlying medical condition".

</p><p>(Some) Plod who don't have them say they don't want them.  Plod who have them love them, and will never go back.  Police PR is about <a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23765462-met-tries-to-cover-up-photographs-of-police-without-ids.do" title="thisislondon.co.uk">covering up</a> [thisislondon.co.uk] their actions, not about altering them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2005 would like its analysis back .
Tasers are now being issued and used by street Plod [ thisislondon.co.uk ] in many [ bbc.co.uk ] forces [ bbc.co.uk ] .
How many of the taserings reported above did you read about " for weeks after " ?
The beauty of taser is that it 's the perfect punishment and compliance tool .
No big bruises , no lasting damage except in rare cases , where the excuse is always " underlying medical condition " .
( Some ) Plod who do n't have them say they do n't want them .
Plod who have them love them , and will never go back .
Police PR is about covering up [ thisislondon.co.uk ] their actions , not about altering them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2005 would like its analysis back.
Tasers are now being issued and used by street Plod [thisislondon.co.uk] in many [bbc.co.uk] forces [bbc.co.uk].
How many of the taserings reported above did you read about "for weeks after"?
The beauty of taser is that it's the perfect punishment and compliance tool.
No big bruises, no lasting damage except in rare cases, where the excuse is always "underlying medical condition".
(Some) Plod who don't have them say they don't want them.
Plod who have them love them, and will never go back.
Police PR is about covering up [thisislondon.co.uk] their actions, not about altering them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098590</id>
	<title>Robert Sheckley "Watchbird"</title>
	<author>S3D</author>
	<datestamp>1265898480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Flying robots zapping criminals with electricity...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Flying robots zapping criminals with electricity.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flying robots zapping criminals with electricity...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097324</id>
	<title>Re:Rubber bungs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265883840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When earplugs are outlawed, only outlaws will have earplugs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When earplugs are outlawed , only outlaws will have earplugs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When earplugs are outlawed, only outlaws will have earplugs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096814</id>
	<title>Timeline</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265920560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>February 10 @ 6:43 PM: <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/02/10/2323248/When-Will-AI-Surpass-Human-Intelligence" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">When Will AI Surpass Human Intelligence?</a> [slashdot.org] <br>
February 10 @ 9:45 PM: <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/02/10/2357216/Six-legged-Robot-Teaches-Itself-To-Walk" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Six-legged Robot Teaches Itself to Walk</a> [slashdot.org] <br>
February 11 @ 2:24 AM: <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/02/11/016239/Armed-Robot-Drones-To-Join-UK-Police-Force" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Armed Robot Drones to Join UK Police Force</a> [slashdot.org] </p><p>

In less than 8 hours we have gone from wondering about AI, to robots that have learned how to walk, to robots that are flying around shooting at people.  This is all happening much too fast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>February 10 @ 6 : 43 PM : When Will AI Surpass Human Intelligence ?
[ slashdot.org ] February 10 @ 9 : 45 PM : Six-legged Robot Teaches Itself to Walk [ slashdot.org ] February 11 @ 2 : 24 AM : Armed Robot Drones to Join UK Police Force [ slashdot.org ] In less than 8 hours we have gone from wondering about AI , to robots that have learned how to walk , to robots that are flying around shooting at people .
This is all happening much too fast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>February 10 @ 6:43 PM: When Will AI Surpass Human Intelligence?
[slashdot.org] 
February 10 @ 9:45 PM: Six-legged Robot Teaches Itself to Walk [slashdot.org] 
February 11 @ 2:24 AM: Armed Robot Drones to Join UK Police Force [slashdot.org] 

In less than 8 hours we have gone from wondering about AI, to robots that have learned how to walk, to robots that are flying around shooting at people.
This is all happening much too fast.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097410</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Jane Q. Public</author>
	<datestamp>1265884980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is a pretty safe assumption.
<br> <br>
The history of things like this is a history of failure. The main reason being that these kind of measures tend to be outrageously difficult and expensive to build and put in the field, but relatively cheap and easy to defeat or destroy.
<br> <br>
Take, for example, traffic-light cameras, intended to catch people who run red lights. My city spent something like $150,000.00 for each one. Yet, all it takes is someone in a halloween mask, a long stick, some string, a little duct tape, and a can of spray paint to totally defeat it. Assuming you wear a used mask and find a stick somewhere, the cost is about $3.00 and the time it takes is about 15 minutes, if you are in the area.
<br> <br>
Granted, this might not be so easy to take down as a camera on a pole. But unless it's stealthed, today it does not take much to easily (and pretty cheaply) make a heat-seeking missile from off-the-store-shelf parts, in your garage. Not as easily as a stick, and not as cheaply as spray paint, but several orders of magnitude less than it cost <b>them</b> to build the damned thing.
<br> <br>
Heck, it could be a community project, with all the local teenagers making their own variations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a pretty safe assumption .
The history of things like this is a history of failure .
The main reason being that these kind of measures tend to be outrageously difficult and expensive to build and put in the field , but relatively cheap and easy to defeat or destroy .
Take , for example , traffic-light cameras , intended to catch people who run red lights .
My city spent something like $ 150,000.00 for each one .
Yet , all it takes is someone in a halloween mask , a long stick , some string , a little duct tape , and a can of spray paint to totally defeat it .
Assuming you wear a used mask and find a stick somewhere , the cost is about $ 3.00 and the time it takes is about 15 minutes , if you are in the area .
Granted , this might not be so easy to take down as a camera on a pole .
But unless it 's stealthed , today it does not take much to easily ( and pretty cheaply ) make a heat-seeking missile from off-the-store-shelf parts , in your garage .
Not as easily as a stick , and not as cheaply as spray paint , but several orders of magnitude less than it cost them to build the damned thing .
Heck , it could be a community project , with all the local teenagers making their own variations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a pretty safe assumption.
The history of things like this is a history of failure.
The main reason being that these kind of measures tend to be outrageously difficult and expensive to build and put in the field, but relatively cheap and easy to defeat or destroy.
Take, for example, traffic-light cameras, intended to catch people who run red lights.
My city spent something like $150,000.00 for each one.
Yet, all it takes is someone in a halloween mask, a long stick, some string, a little duct tape, and a can of spray paint to totally defeat it.
Assuming you wear a used mask and find a stick somewhere, the cost is about $3.00 and the time it takes is about 15 minutes, if you are in the area.
Granted, this might not be so easy to take down as a camera on a pole.
But unless it's stealthed, today it does not take much to easily (and pretty cheaply) make a heat-seeking missile from off-the-store-shelf parts, in your garage.
Not as easily as a stick, and not as cheaply as spray paint, but several orders of magnitude less than it cost them to build the damned thing.
Heck, it could be a community project, with all the local teenagers making their own variations.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31099138</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265901420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The death of Ian Tomlinson would be well out of place in a dictatorship. He was a random passer-by. So was Jean Charles de Menezes. Dictators murder their opponents. Killing two random people by mistake over four years is an extremely poor score for a police state.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The death of Ian Tomlinson would be well out of place in a dictatorship .
He was a random passer-by .
So was Jean Charles de Menezes .
Dictators murder their opponents .
Killing two random people by mistake over four years is an extremely poor score for a police state .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The death of Ian Tomlinson would be well out of place in a dictatorship.
He was a random passer-by.
So was Jean Charles de Menezes.
Dictators murder their opponents.
Killing two random people by mistake over four years is an extremely poor score for a police state.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31126468</id>
	<title>Major nerd failure</title>
	<author>HarryatRock</author>
	<datestamp>1266072000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Flame me if you want, but I think that most of the replies to this should result in loss of nerd standing.</p><p>THIMK - we will have hundreds of airborne web cams just crying out for an app to pick up and decode the feed<br>and stream it to our mums' basements.<br>This is just the tech that geeks have been waiting for, but we need to work together to make it happen.</p><p>I   - develop hard/soft ware to get feed.</p><p>II  - develop AI to select "good" content - content tagging and search engine possibly with integrated alerts for really good stuff</p><p>III - second phase - bot to search social and news networks for good target locations and send calls to get coverage.</p><p>First job - call your MP/senator/president/dictator/mafia\_boss to get as`many of these things up with best possible camera and audio kit that money can buy. (go easy on weapons unless snuff is your scene)</p><p>PS. other projects such as finding concerts/sporting events/celebrity weddings etc. should also be pushed but don't mention following politicians or police/military operations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Flame me if you want , but I think that most of the replies to this should result in loss of nerd standing.THIMK - we will have hundreds of airborne web cams just crying out for an app to pick up and decode the feedand stream it to our mums ' basements.This is just the tech that geeks have been waiting for , but we need to work together to make it happen.I - develop hard/soft ware to get feed.II - develop AI to select " good " content - content tagging and search engine possibly with integrated alerts for really good stuffIII - second phase - bot to search social and news networks for good target locations and send calls to get coverage.First job - call your MP/senator/president/dictator/mafia \ _boss to get as ` many of these things up with best possible camera and audio kit that money can buy .
( go easy on weapons unless snuff is your scene ) PS .
other projects such as finding concerts/sporting events/celebrity weddings etc .
should also be pushed but do n't mention following politicians or police/military operations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flame me if you want, but I think that most of the replies to this should result in loss of nerd standing.THIMK - we will have hundreds of airborne web cams just crying out for an app to pick up and decode the feedand stream it to our mums' basements.This is just the tech that geeks have been waiting for, but we need to work together to make it happen.I   - develop hard/soft ware to get feed.II  - develop AI to select "good" content - content tagging and search engine possibly with integrated alerts for really good stuffIII - second phase - bot to search social and news networks for good target locations and send calls to get coverage.First job - call your MP/senator/president/dictator/mafia\_boss to get as`many of these things up with best possible camera and audio kit that money can buy.
(go easy on weapons unless snuff is your scene)PS.
other projects such as finding concerts/sporting events/celebrity weddings etc.
should also be pushed but don't mention following politicians or police/military operations.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096962</id>
	<title>Re:Hurrah!</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1265878860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or maybe "...and here's the number somebody in your vicinity should call if our drone mistakes you for the burglar..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or maybe " ...and here 's the number somebody in your vicinity should call if our drone mistakes you for the burglar... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or maybe "...and here's the number somebody in your vicinity should call if our drone mistakes you for the burglar..."</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31099682</id>
	<title>Well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265904480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I for one welcome our new robot overlords.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I for one welcome our new robot overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I for one welcome our new robot overlords.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097050</id>
	<title>Suppose they are hacked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265879760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>robot: Good day human. You have the right to remain silent....

robot reboots<nobr> <wbr></nobr>......System updating<nobr> <wbr></nobr>......delete UK laws<nobr> <wbr></nobr>......uploading Chinese laws

robot: you are to be executed.
accused: but you have just read me my rights

boom</htmltext>
<tokenext>robot : Good day human .
You have the right to remain silent... . robot reboots ......System updating ......delete UK laws ......uploading Chinese laws robot : you are to be executed .
accused : but you have just read me my rights boom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>robot: Good day human.
You have the right to remain silent....

robot reboots ......System updating ......delete UK laws ......uploading Chinese laws

robot: you are to be executed.
accused: but you have just read me my rights

boom</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098136</id>
	<title>All perfectly justified, y'know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265893740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After all,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - They probably had it coming..<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - They asled for it.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - They shouldn't be allowed to flout law, convention, manners, or the public peace - like that.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - Society has a right to defend itself.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; - We can trust authorities and its representatives.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -  There will be adequate checks and safequards.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; And, as most dictatorships and cold-war nat'l security doctrines will tell you ( in common with the plain old-fashioned tyrannies, totalitarianisms, etc. ) will tell you - and let you know repeatedly : The people are the enemy. Therefore, they have to be constantly distressed, bullied, and cowed into submission and distracion.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; How long until the media gets a hold of these things ? "Flying interviews". "Airplane-window paparazzi". How long until "Out-in-he-open bigbrother". Uh--oh. No! No! I didn't mean it! I'm sorry! Wait. Don't take me away, aghhhh...!<br>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After all ,         - They probably had it coming. .         - They asled for it .
        - They should n't be allowed to flout law , convention , manners , or the public peace - like that .
        - Society has a right to defend itself .
        - We can trust authorities and its representatives .
        - There will be adequate checks and safequards .
          And , as most dictatorships and cold-war nat'l security doctrines will tell you ( in common with the plain old-fashioned tyrannies , totalitarianisms , etc .
) will tell you - and let you know repeatedly : The people are the enemy .
Therefore , they have to be constantly distressed , bullied , and cowed into submission and distracion .
        How long until the media gets a hold of these things ?
" Flying interviews " .
" Airplane-window paparazzi " .
How long until " Out-in-he-open bigbrother " .
Uh--oh. No !
No ! I did n't mean it !
I 'm sorry !
Wait. Do n't take me away , aghhhh... ! .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all,
        - They probably had it coming..
        - They asled for it.
        - They shouldn't be allowed to flout law, convention, manners, or the public peace - like that.
        - Society has a right to defend itself.
        - We can trust authorities and its representatives.
        -  There will be adequate checks and safequards.
          And, as most dictatorships and cold-war nat'l security doctrines will tell you ( in common with the plain old-fashioned tyrannies, totalitarianisms, etc.
) will tell you - and let you know repeatedly : The people are the enemy.
Therefore, they have to be constantly distressed, bullied, and cowed into submission and distracion.
        How long until the media gets a hold of these things ?
"Flying interviews".
"Airplane-window paparazzi".
How long until "Out-in-he-open bigbrother".
Uh--oh. No!
No! I didn't mean it!
I'm sorry!
Wait. Don't take me away, aghhhh...!.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098720</id>
	<title>it's an island</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265899260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>as long as they can't swim, I don't care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as long as they ca n't swim , I do n't care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as long as they can't swim, I don't care.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096824</id>
	<title>Hurrah!</title>
	<author>zmollusc</author>
	<datestamp>1265920680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Neato! No longer will a call to the cops that your house has been burgled and there are footprints and fingerprints all over the place result in a response of 'we are too busy to investigate, here's a crime number for your insurance claim'. Now it will be 'we will have a unit over the area within minutes, here's a crime number for your insurance claim'. Still no investigation, but maybe the drone can measure how cars are parked and issue some tickets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Neato !
No longer will a call to the cops that your house has been burgled and there are footprints and fingerprints all over the place result in a response of 'we are too busy to investigate , here 's a crime number for your insurance claim' .
Now it will be 'we will have a unit over the area within minutes , here 's a crime number for your insurance claim' .
Still no investigation , but maybe the drone can measure how cars are parked and issue some tickets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Neato!
No longer will a call to the cops that your house has been burgled and there are footprints and fingerprints all over the place result in a response of 'we are too busy to investigate, here's a crime number for your insurance claim'.
Now it will be 'we will have a unit over the area within minutes, here's a crime number for your insurance claim'.
Still no investigation, but maybe the drone can measure how cars are parked and issue some tickets.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097266</id>
	<title>Childishly easy, huh?</title>
	<author>BadDoggie</author>
	<datestamp>1265883240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I see a commenter who's never been tased.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I see a commenter who 's never been tased .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see a commenter who's never been tased.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096986</id>
	<title>I, for one...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265879040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...bow to the awful might of our new dronic overlords.<br>And my brotherly love goes to my subdued fellows in the unholy kingdom.<br>Fight the power! Down with the Combine!</p><p>Seriously, given the state of public security in Britain, nothing surprises me anymore. This step further lowers the bar for abuse of power.<br>The amount of compliance with surveillance fantasies like this on the island astounds me. Where's your spunk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...bow to the awful might of our new dronic overlords.And my brotherly love goes to my subdued fellows in the unholy kingdom.Fight the power !
Down with the Combine ! Seriously , given the state of public security in Britain , nothing surprises me anymore .
This step further lowers the bar for abuse of power.The amount of compliance with surveillance fantasies like this on the island astounds me .
Where 's your spunk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...bow to the awful might of our new dronic overlords.And my brotherly love goes to my subdued fellows in the unholy kingdom.Fight the power!
Down with the Combine!Seriously, given the state of public security in Britain, nothing surprises me anymore.
This step further lowers the bar for abuse of power.The amount of compliance with surveillance fantasies like this on the island astounds me.
Where's your spunk.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097074</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Allicorn</author>
	<datestamp>1265879940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I sat here for barely a minute and came up with three ways to mislead and confuse the drones that would almost certainly have a high degree of success. And I'm no expert.</p></div><p>Assuming the designers are also not experts and themselves spent less than your generous minute wondering whether anyone might not want to be blinded/deafened/tasered by their device, then you should be well ahead of the game.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I sat here for barely a minute and came up with three ways to mislead and confuse the drones that would almost certainly have a high degree of success .
And I 'm no expert.Assuming the designers are also not experts and themselves spent less than your generous minute wondering whether anyone might not want to be blinded/deafened/tasered by their device , then you should be well ahead of the game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I sat here for barely a minute and came up with three ways to mislead and confuse the drones that would almost certainly have a high degree of success.
And I'm no expert.Assuming the designers are also not experts and themselves spent less than your generous minute wondering whether anyone might not want to be blinded/deafened/tasered by their device, then you should be well ahead of the game.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096902</id>
	<title>Oblig ED-209</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265921580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Drop your weapon, you have 15 seconds to comply....<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/inverse jaguar engine sound fx starts</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Drop your weapon , you have 15 seconds to comply.... /inverse jaguar engine sound fx starts</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Drop your weapon, you have 15 seconds to comply.... /inverse jaguar engine sound fx starts</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098730</id>
	<title>Obligatory Terminator/RoboCop Reference</title>
	<author>Random Luck</author>
	<datestamp>1265899380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm still waiting for the obligatory "Terminator" and "RoboCop" reference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still waiting for the obligatory " Terminator " and " RoboCop " reference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still waiting for the obligatory "Terminator" and "RoboCop" reference.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098246</id>
	<title>Re:Not as good as real cops</title>
	<author>VJ42</author>
	<datestamp>1265895240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They'll never program robots to have the hatred, malice and spite of real coppers. Maybe a robot could gun down an unarmed man on a tube station platform, but could it convincingly circulate a wholly misleading account of events afterwards? And then, after the inquest, issue a press release basically saying "We don't care, we'll do it again if we feel like it".</p></div><p>It's only the Met that are like that; your local coppers (not PCSOs)are usually much more human.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll never program robots to have the hatred , malice and spite of real coppers .
Maybe a robot could gun down an unarmed man on a tube station platform , but could it convincingly circulate a wholly misleading account of events afterwards ?
And then , after the inquest , issue a press release basically saying " We do n't care , we 'll do it again if we feel like it " .It 's only the Met that are like that ; your local coppers ( not PCSOs ) are usually much more human .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll never program robots to have the hatred, malice and spite of real coppers.
Maybe a robot could gun down an unarmed man on a tube station platform, but could it convincingly circulate a wholly misleading account of events afterwards?
And then, after the inquest, issue a press release basically saying "We don't care, we'll do it again if we feel like it".It's only the Met that are like that; your local coppers (not PCSOs)are usually much more human.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098394</id>
	<title>watchbird?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265896740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>robert sheckley explained how it'll end up back in 1953...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>robert sheckley explained how it 'll end up back in 1953.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>robert sheckley explained how it'll end up back in 1953...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098050</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>the\_womble</author>
	<datestamp>1265892360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The idea of launching anything potentially dangerous from the air seem highly unlikely when they don't even use it on the ground.</p></div><p>Especially after something goes wrong a few times. It is not easy to hit the right thing from an aircraft, so once a few kids/old peopple/obvious innocents have been tasered, or one of these has been flow into a house, it will get very unpopular.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The idea of launching anything potentially dangerous from the air seem highly unlikely when they do n't even use it on the ground.Especially after something goes wrong a few times .
It is not easy to hit the right thing from an aircraft , so once a few kids/old peopple/obvious innocents have been tasered , or one of these has been flow into a house , it will get very unpopular .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The idea of launching anything potentially dangerous from the air seem highly unlikely when they don't even use it on the ground.Especially after something goes wrong a few times.
It is not easy to hit the right thing from an aircraft, so once a few kids/old peopple/obvious innocents have been tasered, or one of these has been flow into a house, it will get very unpopular.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096950</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097306</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>delinear</author>
	<datestamp>1265883660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Of course that doesn't stop the police from being violent, but when they are it tends to be national news for weeks after.  See the death of Ian Tomlinson and the controversial "ketteling" technique used at the demonstrations in the summer for good examples.</p></div><p>While I mostly agree with your summary of the likelihood of seeing armed drones, I have to say when it comes to police violence, <i>when it's found out</i> it is national news for weeks after, but how many incidents never get discovered or reported? They even tried to cover up Ian Tomlinson's death for the first couple of days and it's only the advent of camera phones and the video evidence they captured that revealed their lies. How many times has something like this happened in the past and <i>not</i> been discovered - as recently as five years earlier even the truth behind Tomlinson's death would probably have never been revealed, this is a rare case of the surveillance environment coming back to bite the police. No wonder they are so against the public using cameras around them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course that does n't stop the police from being violent , but when they are it tends to be national news for weeks after .
See the death of Ian Tomlinson and the controversial " ketteling " technique used at the demonstrations in the summer for good examples.While I mostly agree with your summary of the likelihood of seeing armed drones , I have to say when it comes to police violence , when it 's found out it is national news for weeks after , but how many incidents never get discovered or reported ?
They even tried to cover up Ian Tomlinson 's death for the first couple of days and it 's only the advent of camera phones and the video evidence they captured that revealed their lies .
How many times has something like this happened in the past and not been discovered - as recently as five years earlier even the truth behind Tomlinson 's death would probably have never been revealed , this is a rare case of the surveillance environment coming back to bite the police .
No wonder they are so against the public using cameras around them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course that doesn't stop the police from being violent, but when they are it tends to be national news for weeks after.
See the death of Ian Tomlinson and the controversial "ketteling" technique used at the demonstrations in the summer for good examples.While I mostly agree with your summary of the likelihood of seeing armed drones, I have to say when it comes to police violence, when it's found out it is national news for weeks after, but how many incidents never get discovered or reported?
They even tried to cover up Ian Tomlinson's death for the first couple of days and it's only the advent of camera phones and the video evidence they captured that revealed their lies.
How many times has something like this happened in the past and not been discovered - as recently as five years earlier even the truth behind Tomlinson's death would probably have never been revealed, this is a rare case of the surveillance environment coming back to bite the police.
No wonder they are so against the public using cameras around them.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096778</id>
	<title>Rubber bungs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265920320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The LRAD is a highly directional speaker made of a flat array of piezoelectric transducers, producing intense beam of sound in a 30-degree cone. It can be used as a loudhailer, or deafen the target with a jarring, discordant noise. Some ships now carry LRAD as an anti-pirate measure: It was used to drive off an attack on the Seabourn Spirit off Somalia in 2005.</p></div><p>I recommend UK people carry rubber bungs to put in their ears, in the case of planetary destruction by Vogons and attack by insane police UAVs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The LRAD is a highly directional speaker made of a flat array of piezoelectric transducers , producing intense beam of sound in a 30-degree cone .
It can be used as a loudhailer , or deafen the target with a jarring , discordant noise .
Some ships now carry LRAD as an anti-pirate measure : It was used to drive off an attack on the Seabourn Spirit off Somalia in 2005.I recommend UK people carry rubber bungs to put in their ears , in the case of planetary destruction by Vogons and attack by insane police UAVs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The LRAD is a highly directional speaker made of a flat array of piezoelectric transducers, producing intense beam of sound in a 30-degree cone.
It can be used as a loudhailer, or deafen the target with a jarring, discordant noise.
Some ships now carry LRAD as an anti-pirate measure: It was used to drive off an attack on the Seabourn Spirit off Somalia in 2005.I recommend UK people carry rubber bungs to put in their ears, in the case of planetary destruction by Vogons and attack by insane police UAVs.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31106684</id>
	<title>shades of ED-209!</title>
	<author>ChristTrekker</author>
	<datestamp>1265889840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Never buy the 1.0 model...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Never buy the 1.0 model.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never buy the 1.0 model...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097970</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>neumayr</author>
	<datestamp>1265891280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even though I wouldn't argue against your assessment of the article's motivation, it does fuel further speculation. Even though armed UAVs might never be seen in Britain, the technology won't go away and people will be tempted to use it. Most likely against people lacking the means to defend themselves.<br>
Dictatorships come to mind.<br>
I don't know, how does the UK stand on supplying weapons to dictatorships? Same as every other "developed" country I'd guess...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even though I would n't argue against your assessment of the article 's motivation , it does fuel further speculation .
Even though armed UAVs might never be seen in Britain , the technology wo n't go away and people will be tempted to use it .
Most likely against people lacking the means to defend themselves .
Dictatorships come to mind .
I do n't know , how does the UK stand on supplying weapons to dictatorships ?
Same as every other " developed " country I 'd guess.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even though I wouldn't argue against your assessment of the article's motivation, it does fuel further speculation.
Even though armed UAVs might never be seen in Britain, the technology won't go away and people will be tempted to use it.
Most likely against people lacking the means to defend themselves.
Dictatorships come to mind.
I don't know, how does the UK stand on supplying weapons to dictatorships?
Same as every other "developed" country I'd guess...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096950</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096774</id>
	<title>Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265920260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll be the first to say it: 1984 and V for Vendetta. I am come on, flying, armed, police drones?</p><p>Of course it's Britain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll be the first to say it : 1984 and V for Vendetta .
I am come on , flying , armed , police drones ? Of course it 's Britain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll be the first to say it: 1984 and V for Vendetta.
I am come on, flying, armed, police drones?Of course it's Britain.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098864</id>
	<title>robocop</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265900100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Full metal robot or cybernetic robocop?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Full metal robot or cybernetic robocop ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Full metal robot or cybernetic robocop?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097294</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1265883540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, the death of Ian Tomlinson was a horrific example of police brutality out of control. One that would not be out-of-place in a fascist dictatorship. And yes, it was big news for weeks afterwards.</p><p>So was the police murder of Jean Charles de Menezes.</p><p>Remind me again, in each case, who was held responsible for these murders? Do we know their names? Were they jailed?</p><p>The answer is a resounding No in all cases.</p><p>So please, stop telling us we should be giving them the benefit of the doubt, that this report is only to fuel paranoia.</p><p>When it comes to the police in the UK, their own actions have demonstrated that paranoia is necessary and healthy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , the death of Ian Tomlinson was a horrific example of police brutality out of control .
One that would not be out-of-place in a fascist dictatorship .
And yes , it was big news for weeks afterwards.So was the police murder of Jean Charles de Menezes.Remind me again , in each case , who was held responsible for these murders ?
Do we know their names ?
Were they jailed ? The answer is a resounding No in all cases.So please , stop telling us we should be giving them the benefit of the doubt , that this report is only to fuel paranoia.When it comes to the police in the UK , their own actions have demonstrated that paranoia is necessary and healthy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, the death of Ian Tomlinson was a horrific example of police brutality out of control.
One that would not be out-of-place in a fascist dictatorship.
And yes, it was big news for weeks afterwards.So was the police murder of Jean Charles de Menezes.Remind me again, in each case, who was held responsible for these murders?
Do we know their names?
Were they jailed?The answer is a resounding No in all cases.So please, stop telling us we should be giving them the benefit of the doubt, that this report is only to fuel paranoia.When it comes to the police in the UK, their own actions have demonstrated that paranoia is necessary and healthy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096950</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098176</id>
	<title>Wireless right ?</title>
	<author>Quietlife2k</author>
	<datestamp>1265894340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How soon will cheap / diy schematics for jammers become available and these UAV's start crashing into things ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How soon will cheap / diy schematics for jammers become available and these UAV 's start crashing into things ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How soon will cheap / diy schematics for jammers become available and these UAV's start crashing into things ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097210</id>
	<title>Wrong URL</title>
	<author>Lanxon</author>
	<datestamp>1265882220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nate here from Wired. Somehow the URL Slashdot's pointing to has been truncated. Correct one is: <a href="http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-02/10/future-police-meet-the-uk's-armed-robot-drones.aspx" title="wired.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-02/10/future-police-meet-the-uk's-armed-robot-drones.aspx</a> [wired.co.uk]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nate here from Wired .
Somehow the URL Slashdot 's pointing to has been truncated .
Correct one is : http : //www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-02/10/future-police-meet-the-uk 's-armed-robot-drones.aspx [ wired.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nate here from Wired.
Somehow the URL Slashdot's pointing to has been truncated.
Correct one is: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-02/10/future-police-meet-the-uk's-armed-robot-drones.aspx [wired.co.uk]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096930</id>
	<title>Checkmate</title>
	<author>nightfire-unique</author>
	<datestamp>1265921820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Game over.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</htmltext>
<tokenext>Game over .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Game over.
:(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31112628</id>
	<title>Are they drones or are the robots?</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1265988600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When it is controlled by a person it is not a robot.  Your car is not a robot.  The "bots" in Robot Wars where not robots, they were remotely controlled cars with weapons.</p><p>A land mine or heat seeking missile would be robots(ish).</p><p>This system sounds like it is remotely controlled (and therefor not a robot).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When it is controlled by a person it is not a robot .
Your car is not a robot .
The " bots " in Robot Wars where not robots , they were remotely controlled cars with weapons.A land mine or heat seeking missile would be robots ( ish ) .This system sounds like it is remotely controlled ( and therefor not a robot ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When it is controlled by a person it is not a robot.
Your car is not a robot.
The "bots" in Robot Wars where not robots, they were remotely controlled cars with weapons.A land mine or heat seeking missile would be robots(ish).This system sounds like it is remotely controlled (and therefor not a robot).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31099172</id>
	<title>This may be positive</title>
	<author>chiui</author>
	<datestamp>1265901660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if they keep logs of any activity done with the drones. It may reduce, if not eliminate, abuse by officers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if they keep logs of any activity done with the drones .
It may reduce , if not eliminate , abuse by officers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if they keep logs of any activity done with the drones.
It may reduce, if not eliminate, abuse by officers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098444</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>poena.dare</author>
	<datestamp>1265897220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>UK Bobbies &gt; Mississippi Sheriff Deputies</p><p>Can I move to the UK, please?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>UK Bobbies &gt; Mississippi Sheriff DeputiesCan I move to the UK , please ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UK Bobbies &gt; Mississippi Sheriff DeputiesCan I move to the UK, please?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097294</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31120256</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>Red Flayer</author>
	<datestamp>1265972640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>And because it's Britain, there isn't much to worry about.</p></div></blockquote><p>Says you.  This should strike fear into the heart of every fly-tipper out there.<br> <br>What the hell is fly-tipping anyway?  Here in the good ol' US of A, we tip cows.  Ya gotta get low for good leverage, and get yer back into it, but cow tipping is a bona fide gentleman's sport 'round these parts.<br> <br>Are Brits so past weak that they can only tip flies?  Surely they got cows somewhere... maybe they just need a big ol' American to show em how its done.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And because it 's Britain , there is n't much to worry about.Says you .
This should strike fear into the heart of every fly-tipper out there .
What the hell is fly-tipping anyway ?
Here in the good ol ' US of A , we tip cows .
Ya got ta get low for good leverage , and get yer back into it , but cow tipping is a bona fide gentleman 's sport 'round these parts .
Are Brits so past weak that they can only tip flies ?
Surely they got cows somewhere... maybe they just need a big ol ' American to show em how its done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And because it's Britain, there isn't much to worry about.Says you.
This should strike fear into the heart of every fly-tipper out there.
What the hell is fly-tipping anyway?
Here in the good ol' US of A, we tip cows.
Ya gotta get low for good leverage, and get yer back into it, but cow tipping is a bona fide gentleman's sport 'round these parts.
Are Brits so past weak that they can only tip flies?
Surely they got cows somewhere... maybe they just need a big ol' American to show em how its done.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097738</id>
	<title>cooperate with IDF?</title>
	<author>kasper\_souren</author>
	<datestamp>1265888640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Great. I'm curious to know if they are cooperating with the IDF in this project, which was happily flying around UAV's in Gaza last year.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Great .
I 'm curious to know if they are cooperating with the IDF in this project , which was happily flying around UAV 's in Gaza last year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great.
I'm curious to know if they are cooperating with the IDF in this project, which was happily flying around UAV's in Gaza last year.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098274</id>
	<title>Waaahh! Wahhhh! 1984!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265895540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you're all right.</p><p>The Police should do nothing to modernise at all and stick to using the same procedures from the 19th and 20th century whilst the criminal fraternity leaves them behind.</p><p>Grow up!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you 're all right.The Police should do nothing to modernise at all and stick to using the same procedures from the 19th and 20th century whilst the criminal fraternity leaves them behind.Grow up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you're all right.The Police should do nothing to modernise at all and stick to using the same procedures from the 19th and 20th century whilst the criminal fraternity leaves them behind.Grow up!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096978</id>
	<title>Re:Timeline</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265879040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>February 11 @ 8:32 AM: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar\_Galactica\_(2004\_TV\_series)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Toasters take over Earth</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>February 11 @ 8 : 32 AM : Toasters take over Earth [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>February 11 @ 8:32 AM: Toasters take over Earth [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096814</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31178424</id>
	<title>Re:It's a 'topia sir, but not one of the good ones</title>
	<author>zummit</author>
	<datestamp>1265029080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... I love that song<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Braziiiiiiiiiiil?  Ta da, la la, dum dum, de de<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... I love that song ...Braziiiiiiiiiiil ?
Ta da , la la , dum dum , de de .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... I love that song ...Braziiiiiiiiiiil?
Ta da, la la, dum dum, de de ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096910</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097834</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>KDR\_11k</author>
	<datestamp>1265889780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Launch an anti air missile and you'll have SWAT teams (or their local equivalent) on your ass in no time. You aren't even allowed to carry a knife in the UK, if you bring missiles to that party they'll think you're with Al Qaeda and shoot you on sight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Launch an anti air missile and you 'll have SWAT teams ( or their local equivalent ) on your ass in no time .
You are n't even allowed to carry a knife in the UK , if you bring missiles to that party they 'll think you 're with Al Qaeda and shoot you on sight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Launch an anti air missile and you'll have SWAT teams (or their local equivalent) on your ass in no time.
You aren't even allowed to carry a knife in the UK, if you bring missiles to that party they'll think you're with Al Qaeda and shoot you on sight.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097410</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097768</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265888940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forgot to mention the droids will be leaking oil all over the place...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot to mention the droids will be leaking oil all over the place.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot to mention the droids will be leaking oil all over the place...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096820</id>
	<title>What could possibly go wrong...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265920680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sure why not. Why not make them sniper bots while you're at it, throw in nuclear powered autonomous plains too... <br>
FFS!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure why not .
Why not make them sniper bots while you 're at it , throw in nuclear powered autonomous plains too.. . FFS !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure why not.
Why not make them sniper bots while you're at it, throw in nuclear powered autonomous plains too... 
FFS!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31107138</id>
	<title>So, about the disorienting strobe lighting...</title>
	<author>tlambert</author>
	<datestamp>1265891640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, about the disorienting strobe lighting...</p><p>Q1: Does it only work on people, or does it also work on other drones?</p><p>Q2(A): If it doesn't work on other drones, then my drone which I fly against their drones will be OK, right?</p><p>Q2(B): If it does work against other drones, this means they will on be able to fly one at a time, right?</p><p>-- Terry</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , about the disorienting strobe lighting...Q1 : Does it only work on people , or does it also work on other drones ? Q2 ( A ) : If it does n't work on other drones , then my drone which I fly against their drones will be OK , right ? Q2 ( B ) : If it does work against other drones , this means they will on be able to fly one at a time , right ? -- Terry</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, about the disorienting strobe lighting...Q1: Does it only work on people, or does it also work on other drones?Q2(A): If it doesn't work on other drones, then my drone which I fly against their drones will be OK, right?Q2(B): If it does work against other drones, this means they will on be able to fly one at a time, right?-- Terry</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098688</id>
	<title>Re:Timeline</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265899140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>cops are becoming the terrorists.<br>you should have more concern for their behavior.</p><p>gort 2.0</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>cops are becoming the terrorists.you should have more concern for their behavior.gort 2.0</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cops are becoming the terrorists.you should have more concern for their behavior.gort 2.0</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096814</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097216</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>delinear</author>
	<datestamp>1265882340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know this part of TFS was about a slightly different story, but: "[...] modified military aircraft drones will carry out surveillance on everyone from British protesters and antisocial motorists to fly-tippers" sums up the state of the UK perfectly, our Glorious Government will spend millions on police drones that carry out surveillance on everyone from protesters to motorists to people throwing away rubbish, so everyone except criminals then?</p><p>It's the same old pattern, if it costs a fortune and can be used to keep the guy on the street under control, the budget is endless whether the excuse is terrorism/crime (new strict laws, insane airport security, full body scanners, ID cards, numerous measures to spy on everything we do) or our own "safety" (miles and miles of speed cameras, even on roads where you're lucky to be doing half the speed limit most of the time), and yet nobody seems to feel any safer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this part of TFS was about a slightly different story , but : " [ ... ] modified military aircraft drones will carry out surveillance on everyone from British protesters and antisocial motorists to fly-tippers " sums up the state of the UK perfectly , our Glorious Government will spend millions on police drones that carry out surveillance on everyone from protesters to motorists to people throwing away rubbish , so everyone except criminals then ? It 's the same old pattern , if it costs a fortune and can be used to keep the guy on the street under control , the budget is endless whether the excuse is terrorism/crime ( new strict laws , insane airport security , full body scanners , ID cards , numerous measures to spy on everything we do ) or our own " safety " ( miles and miles of speed cameras , even on roads where you 're lucky to be doing half the speed limit most of the time ) , and yet nobody seems to feel any safer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this part of TFS was about a slightly different story, but: "[...] modified military aircraft drones will carry out surveillance on everyone from British protesters and antisocial motorists to fly-tippers" sums up the state of the UK perfectly, our Glorious Government will spend millions on police drones that carry out surveillance on everyone from protesters to motorists to people throwing away rubbish, so everyone except criminals then?It's the same old pattern, if it costs a fortune and can be used to keep the guy on the street under control, the budget is endless whether the excuse is terrorism/crime (new strict laws, insane airport security, full body scanners, ID cards, numerous measures to spy on everything we do) or our own "safety" (miles and miles of speed cameras, even on roads where you're lucky to be doing half the speed limit most of the time), and yet nobody seems to feel any safer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096774</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097454</id>
	<title>When did Wired...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265885640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...become the Daily Mail?</p><p>20 paragraphs of speculation, then:</p><p><i>In 2008 the Met rejected government plans for a wider issue of tasers to non-specialist officers because of the fear they could cause, and there have been numerous complaints of abuse. For some, the arrival of a hovering law-enforcement drone with a video eyes and a 50,000-volt taser at the ready might be a police technology too far.</i></p><p>So the Met police, not exactly known for their touchy-feely approach, have rejected a more widespread use of weapons despite it having been approved by the government, but they're now going to begin flying armed drones?</p><p>The drones that have been used by British police forces so far have been four rotor craft with cameras. Given that they're ground controlled, the difference between their use and that of helicopter surveillance (and I'm not asserting that the latter is used appropriately in all circumstances) appears primarily to be that of cost, rather than the impending rise of the machines.</p><p>(The captcha on this was "conforms". Doubleplus ungood.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...become the Daily Mail ? 20 paragraphs of speculation , then : In 2008 the Met rejected government plans for a wider issue of tasers to non-specialist officers because of the fear they could cause , and there have been numerous complaints of abuse .
For some , the arrival of a hovering law-enforcement drone with a video eyes and a 50,000-volt taser at the ready might be a police technology too far.So the Met police , not exactly known for their touchy-feely approach , have rejected a more widespread use of weapons despite it having been approved by the government , but they 're now going to begin flying armed drones ? The drones that have been used by British police forces so far have been four rotor craft with cameras .
Given that they 're ground controlled , the difference between their use and that of helicopter surveillance ( and I 'm not asserting that the latter is used appropriately in all circumstances ) appears primarily to be that of cost , rather than the impending rise of the machines .
( The captcha on this was " conforms " .
Doubleplus ungood .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...become the Daily Mail?20 paragraphs of speculation, then:In 2008 the Met rejected government plans for a wider issue of tasers to non-specialist officers because of the fear they could cause, and there have been numerous complaints of abuse.
For some, the arrival of a hovering law-enforcement drone with a video eyes and a 50,000-volt taser at the ready might be a police technology too far.So the Met police, not exactly known for their touchy-feely approach, have rejected a more widespread use of weapons despite it having been approved by the government, but they're now going to begin flying armed drones?The drones that have been used by British police forces so far have been four rotor craft with cameras.
Given that they're ground controlled, the difference between their use and that of helicopter surveillance (and I'm not asserting that the latter is used appropriately in all circumstances) appears primarily to be that of cost, rather than the impending rise of the machines.
(The captcha on this was "conforms".
Doubleplus ungood.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31120406</id>
	<title>Re:not just criminals...</title>
	<author>s0l1dsnak3123</author>
	<datestamp>1265973060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How can you be an antisocial motorist? By driving down a quiet country lane?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How can you be an antisocial motorist ?
By driving down a quiet country lane ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can you be an antisocial motorist?
By driving down a quiet country lane?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098900</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265900220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, no, no. This is a 'system', you see. A business. The machinery has to be kept in motion. All for the public well being of our society. Of your family. Your parents. And brothers and sisters. Don't you care about them ?</p><p>Let me explain. Those 'extra options', only appear on version 2.0, in the 'Invulnerable' series. For God's sake, man, think of the expenses-paid business trips to the security and defense fairs !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , no , no .
This is a 'system ' , you see .
A business .
The machinery has to be kept in motion .
All for the public well being of our society .
Of your family .
Your parents .
And brothers and sisters .
Do n't you care about them ? Let me explain .
Those 'extra options ' , only appear on version 2.0 , in the 'Invulnerable ' series .
For God 's sake , man , think of the expenses-paid business trips to the security and defense fairs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, no, no.
This is a 'system', you see.
A business.
The machinery has to be kept in motion.
All for the public well being of our society.
Of your family.
Your parents.
And brothers and sisters.
Don't you care about them ?Let me explain.
Those 'extra options', only appear on version 2.0, in the 'Invulnerable' series.
For God's sake, man, think of the expenses-paid business trips to the security and defense fairs !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097786</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>delinear</author>
	<datestamp>1265889120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Note it could also be more cheaply defeated by, for instance, walking into a shopping centre - good luck covering all the exits once you've lost sight of the suspect and they sneak out in a bunch of other people. We'll literally be paying police to play "Where's Wally" - in this case the answer is, "he's the one looking at the camera feed". I wonder what the flight time is on one of those things anyway, I guess you wouldn't have to hide for too long before it returned to base.</p><p>And that's without even considering inexpensive missile alternatives - I used to be pretty keen with a home-made catapult when I was younger. I can see this becoming a fun past-time for our troubled youth. Still, if it keeps them out of trouble...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Note it could also be more cheaply defeated by , for instance , walking into a shopping centre - good luck covering all the exits once you 've lost sight of the suspect and they sneak out in a bunch of other people .
We 'll literally be paying police to play " Where 's Wally " - in this case the answer is , " he 's the one looking at the camera feed " .
I wonder what the flight time is on one of those things anyway , I guess you would n't have to hide for too long before it returned to base.And that 's without even considering inexpensive missile alternatives - I used to be pretty keen with a home-made catapult when I was younger .
I can see this becoming a fun past-time for our troubled youth .
Still , if it keeps them out of trouble.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Note it could also be more cheaply defeated by, for instance, walking into a shopping centre - good luck covering all the exits once you've lost sight of the suspect and they sneak out in a bunch of other people.
We'll literally be paying police to play "Where's Wally" - in this case the answer is, "he's the one looking at the camera feed".
I wonder what the flight time is on one of those things anyway, I guess you wouldn't have to hide for too long before it returned to base.And that's without even considering inexpensive missile alternatives - I used to be pretty keen with a home-made catapult when I was younger.
I can see this becoming a fun past-time for our troubled youth.
Still, if it keeps them out of trouble...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097694</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265888160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wait, did you just equate building a heat-seeking missile to taping a can of spray paint to a pole?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , did you just equate building a heat-seeking missile to taping a can of spray paint to a pole ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, did you just equate building a heat-seeking missile to taping a can of spray paint to a pole?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097010</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>cgenman</author>
	<datestamp>1265879280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I sat here for barely a minute and came up with three ways to mislead and confuse the drones that would almost certainly have a high degree of success. And I'm no expert.</i></p><p>I'm guessing armed robot drones in the UK aren't there to catch Ocean's 11 level criminals.  Quelling soccer riots, following fleeing vehicles, traveling along with protest groups... the drones are probably going to replace the more expensive and slower helicopter crews in the UK police force.  Most of the time you just need to let people know that the police are watching, and they'll behave.  Or they'll panic and run, and be followed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I sat here for barely a minute and came up with three ways to mislead and confuse the drones that would almost certainly have a high degree of success .
And I 'm no expert.I 'm guessing armed robot drones in the UK are n't there to catch Ocean 's 11 level criminals .
Quelling soccer riots , following fleeing vehicles , traveling along with protest groups... the drones are probably going to replace the more expensive and slower helicopter crews in the UK police force .
Most of the time you just need to let people know that the police are watching , and they 'll behave .
Or they 'll panic and run , and be followed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I sat here for barely a minute and came up with three ways to mislead and confuse the drones that would almost certainly have a high degree of success.
And I'm no expert.I'm guessing armed robot drones in the UK aren't there to catch Ocean's 11 level criminals.
Quelling soccer riots, following fleeing vehicles, traveling along with protest groups... the drones are probably going to replace the more expensive and slower helicopter crews in the UK police force.
Most of the time you just need to let people know that the police are watching, and they'll behave.
Or they'll panic and run, and be followed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31118566</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Shompol</author>
	<datestamp>1265968020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And this is how you build a supersonic jet capable of interstellar travel:<br>
1. Body: Heavy-duty cardboard tube..a lightweight metal tube also works.<br>
2...</htmltext>
<tokenext>And this is how you build a supersonic jet capable of interstellar travel : 1 .
Body : Heavy-duty cardboard tube..a lightweight metal tube also works .
2.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this is how you build a supersonic jet capable of interstellar travel:
1.
Body: Heavy-duty cardboard tube..a lightweight metal tube also works.
2...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098582</id>
	<title>THE DOCTOR WAS RIGHT!!</title>
	<author>RasputinAXP</author>
	<datestamp>1265898480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've gone and created Daleks, and now Captain Jack's not here to save us, and the Doctor's off regenerating somewhere...</p><p>we're screwed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've gone and created Daleks , and now Captain Jack 's not here to save us , and the Doctor 's off regenerating somewhere...we 're screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've gone and created Daleks, and now Captain Jack's not here to save us, and the Doctor's off regenerating somewhere...we're screwed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097180</id>
	<title>Now why does it reminds me of OCP corp?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265881560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And my first thought was not about Terminator, but about Robocop. Seeing how it goes, I'll bet that they'll put some social and then commercial advertisements into them, forcing you to listen to it.<br> <br>"Stay calm, citizen, your crime report is being processed. Meanwhile, consider that with new Toyota your chances of getting in accident are statistically lower, and it comfortable and ergonomic interior would help you to recover from stress much faster. Think about your future right now!" Now <b>that</b> is a scary thought.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And my first thought was not about Terminator , but about Robocop .
Seeing how it goes , I 'll bet that they 'll put some social and then commercial advertisements into them , forcing you to listen to it .
" Stay calm , citizen , your crime report is being processed .
Meanwhile , consider that with new Toyota your chances of getting in accident are statistically lower , and it comfortable and ergonomic interior would help you to recover from stress much faster .
Think about your future right now !
" Now that is a scary thought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And my first thought was not about Terminator, but about Robocop.
Seeing how it goes, I'll bet that they'll put some social and then commercial advertisements into them, forcing you to listen to it.
"Stay calm, citizen, your crime report is being processed.
Meanwhile, consider that with new Toyota your chances of getting in accident are statistically lower, and it comfortable and ergonomic interior would help you to recover from stress much faster.
Think about your future right now!
" Now that is a scary thought.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098948</id>
	<title>Inaccurate summary</title>
	<author>v1x</author>
	<datestamp>1265900460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>FTA:<blockquote><div><p>Surveillance is only the start, however. Military drones quickly moved from reconnaissance to strike, and if the British police follow suit, their drones could be armed -- but with non-lethal weapons rather than Hellfire missiles.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>

The article suggests that they could <i>potentially</i> go the same way as the military, although the title/summary makes it appear as if it were a certainty.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTA : Surveillance is only the start , however .
Military drones quickly moved from reconnaissance to strike , and if the British police follow suit , their drones could be armed -- but with non-lethal weapons rather than Hellfire missiles .
The article suggests that they could potentially go the same way as the military , although the title/summary makes it appear as if it were a certainty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTA:Surveillance is only the start, however.
Military drones quickly moved from reconnaissance to strike, and if the British police follow suit, their drones could be armed -- but with non-lethal weapons rather than Hellfire missiles.
The article suggests that they could potentially go the same way as the military, although the title/summary makes it appear as if it were a certainty.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098490</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265897700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>This makes it sound simpler than it is, and it costs a bit, but other than incidentals like epoxy, about all it would take is this (assuming it is not some kind of stealthed craft). Don't try this at home.
<br> <br>
Body: Heavy-duty cardboard tube. A section of tube from a roll of carpet should do the trick if it is one of those with a thick wall, but even that is a bit large. It would have sufficient strength. But a lightweight metal tube also works.
<br> <br>
Fins: Metal or strong wood. They have to be sturdy enough to not distort at mach 1+, and take some heat. Balsa and plastic are definitely not suitable. (And you probably want to make the fins swept to reduce drag.) The attachment must be STRONG.
<br> <br>
Control surfaces: SMALL aileron-like panels on the back of the fins. (At high speed it doesn't take much control surface or deflection to change direction.) Vectoring the nozzle is not an option. It is a rocket, not a jet. Usually most of the trajectory will be coasting. Engine burn time will probably not be more than about 1.5 seconds.
<br> <br>
Control system: I initially put some details here but I am going to leave that out. I know what approach I would use, but I don't want to be accused of being one of the Bad Guys for putting some kind of full-blown missile plans on the internet. Cost though for the electronics should very easily be under $100.
<br> <br>
Business end: your choice here. In some cases I am pretty sure just a hard point should be sufficient to discombobulate an engine. If it is a low-flying craft you might reasonably expect your interceptor to be moving 600 mph or faster. If I were really some kind of freedom fighter against an oppressive tyranny or something, I might use something besides just a point. But weight is an issue.
<br> <br>
Propulsion: G-class model rocket engine. Available mail-order for around $30. In some states you need a license to buy them.
<br> <br>
Finish: It is important that the finish be very smooth, even polished. The tip of the nose and the leading edges of the fins need special attention. And they should at the very least be coated with heat-resistant paint. That might be a good idea for the whole thing.
<br> <br>
That's a pretty rough layout, and might need some tweaking. But possible? Heck yeah.  (And note: even if you build something like this just for a hobby rocket, it is VERY dangerous. Adults only. A high degree of common sense and caution required.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>This makes it sound simpler than it is , and it costs a bit , but other than incidentals like epoxy , about all it would take is this ( assuming it is not some kind of stealthed craft ) .
Do n't try this at home .
Body : Heavy-duty cardboard tube .
A section of tube from a roll of carpet should do the trick if it is one of those with a thick wall , but even that is a bit large .
It would have sufficient strength .
But a lightweight metal tube also works .
Fins : Metal or strong wood .
They have to be sturdy enough to not distort at mach 1 + , and take some heat .
Balsa and plastic are definitely not suitable .
( And you probably want to make the fins swept to reduce drag .
) The attachment must be STRONG .
Control surfaces : SMALL aileron-like panels on the back of the fins .
( At high speed it does n't take much control surface or deflection to change direction .
) Vectoring the nozzle is not an option .
It is a rocket , not a jet .
Usually most of the trajectory will be coasting .
Engine burn time will probably not be more than about 1.5 seconds .
Control system : I initially put some details here but I am going to leave that out .
I know what approach I would use , but I do n't want to be accused of being one of the Bad Guys for putting some kind of full-blown missile plans on the internet .
Cost though for the electronics should very easily be under $ 100 .
Business end : your choice here .
In some cases I am pretty sure just a hard point should be sufficient to discombobulate an engine .
If it is a low-flying craft you might reasonably expect your interceptor to be moving 600 mph or faster .
If I were really some kind of freedom fighter against an oppressive tyranny or something , I might use something besides just a point .
But weight is an issue .
Propulsion : G-class model rocket engine .
Available mail-order for around $ 30 .
In some states you need a license to buy them .
Finish : It is important that the finish be very smooth , even polished .
The tip of the nose and the leading edges of the fins need special attention .
And they should at the very least be coated with heat-resistant paint .
That might be a good idea for the whole thing .
That 's a pretty rough layout , and might need some tweaking .
But possible ?
Heck yeah .
( And note : even if you build something like this just for a hobby rocket , it is VERY dangerous .
Adults only .
A high degree of common sense and caution required .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This makes it sound simpler than it is, and it costs a bit, but other than incidentals like epoxy, about all it would take is this (assuming it is not some kind of stealthed craft).
Don't try this at home.
Body: Heavy-duty cardboard tube.
A section of tube from a roll of carpet should do the trick if it is one of those with a thick wall, but even that is a bit large.
It would have sufficient strength.
But a lightweight metal tube also works.
Fins: Metal or strong wood.
They have to be sturdy enough to not distort at mach 1+, and take some heat.
Balsa and plastic are definitely not suitable.
(And you probably want to make the fins swept to reduce drag.
) The attachment must be STRONG.
Control surfaces: SMALL aileron-like panels on the back of the fins.
(At high speed it doesn't take much control surface or deflection to change direction.
) Vectoring the nozzle is not an option.
It is a rocket, not a jet.
Usually most of the trajectory will be coasting.
Engine burn time will probably not be more than about 1.5 seconds.
Control system: I initially put some details here but I am going to leave that out.
I know what approach I would use, but I don't want to be accused of being one of the Bad Guys for putting some kind of full-blown missile plans on the internet.
Cost though for the electronics should very easily be under $100.
Business end: your choice here.
In some cases I am pretty sure just a hard point should be sufficient to discombobulate an engine.
If it is a low-flying craft you might reasonably expect your interceptor to be moving 600 mph or faster.
If I were really some kind of freedom fighter against an oppressive tyranny or something, I might use something besides just a point.
But weight is an issue.
Propulsion: G-class model rocket engine.
Available mail-order for around $30.
In some states you need a license to buy them.
Finish: It is important that the finish be very smooth, even polished.
The tip of the nose and the leading edges of the fins need special attention.
And they should at the very least be coated with heat-resistant paint.
That might be a good idea for the whole thing.
That's a pretty rough layout, and might need some tweaking.
But possible?
Heck yeah.
(And note: even if you build something like this just for a hobby rocket, it is VERY dangerous.
Adults only.
A high degree of common sense and caution required.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097120</id>
	<title>It all starts with robocop</title>
	<author>MistrX</author>
	<datestamp>1265880540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ofcourse, it'll start without harm with just the cops patrolling the street. Then they remove the human factor to bring in computerized lawenforcement. They do that with hanging CCTV everywhere. Ofcourse, to prevent terrorism and such. But it's not enough. It seems crime is still not solved. So what do we do? Bring in military drones with a lobotomy on it's weaponry. However this will still not produce the required results so we use military drones but with 100\% effectiveness to link them to a central computer-core.<br>In the near future the artificial intelligence network will be called Skynet and will become self-aware. Then it will build an army of machines.</p><p>I don't understand but 'some' people warned us about this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ofcourse , it 'll start without harm with just the cops patrolling the street .
Then they remove the human factor to bring in computerized lawenforcement .
They do that with hanging CCTV everywhere .
Ofcourse , to prevent terrorism and such .
But it 's not enough .
It seems crime is still not solved .
So what do we do ?
Bring in military drones with a lobotomy on it 's weaponry .
However this will still not produce the required results so we use military drones but with 100 \ % effectiveness to link them to a central computer-core.In the near future the artificial intelligence network will be called Skynet and will become self-aware .
Then it will build an army of machines.I do n't understand but 'some ' people warned us about this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ofcourse, it'll start without harm with just the cops patrolling the street.
Then they remove the human factor to bring in computerized lawenforcement.
They do that with hanging CCTV everywhere.
Ofcourse, to prevent terrorism and such.
But it's not enough.
It seems crime is still not solved.
So what do we do?
Bring in military drones with a lobotomy on it's weaponry.
However this will still not produce the required results so we use military drones but with 100\% effectiveness to link them to a central computer-core.In the near future the artificial intelligence network will be called Skynet and will become self-aware.
Then it will build an army of machines.I don't understand but 'some' people warned us about this.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097556</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>Jane Q. Public</author>
	<datestamp>1265886900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apologies, I did not mean to make it look like I was mixing traffic and surveillance cameras. They are separate issues, but accidentally got put into the same paragraph.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apologies , I did not mean to make it look like I was mixing traffic and surveillance cameras .
They are separate issues , but accidentally got put into the same paragraph .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apologies, I did not mean to make it look like I was mixing traffic and surveillance cameras.
They are separate issues, but accidentally got put into the same paragraph.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097498</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>Hal\_Porter</author>
	<datestamp>1265886300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell that to Sergeant Killbot. His new 133.7 firmware includes a Modern Literature database and a hardware irony decoder.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell that to Sergeant Killbot .
His new 133.7 firmware includes a Modern Literature database and a hardware irony decoder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell that to Sergeant Killbot.
His new 133.7 firmware includes a Modern Literature database and a hardware irony decoder.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31103502</id>
	<title>Countermeasures</title>
	<author>HTH NE1</author>
	<datestamp>1265920560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But these drones could be armed with tasers, non-lethal projectiles and ultra-powerful disorienting strobe lighting apparatus, reports Wired.</p></div><p>Remind me never to visit London without my Dalekanium shell to protect my privacy and freedom from the local government.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But these drones could be armed with tasers , non-lethal projectiles and ultra-powerful disorienting strobe lighting apparatus , reports Wired.Remind me never to visit London without my Dalekanium shell to protect my privacy and freedom from the local government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But these drones could be armed with tasers, non-lethal projectiles and ultra-powerful disorienting strobe lighting apparatus, reports Wired.Remind me never to visit London without my Dalekanium shell to protect my privacy and freedom from the local government.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097642</id>
	<title>"Shot," not "shot at."</title>
	<author>EWAdams</author>
	<datestamp>1265887620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>British criminals should expect to be "shot." Drones won't miss if they're firing a decent weapon like a rifle. This is a significant improvement over human beings. Most of the people who use guns are lousy marksmen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>British criminals should expect to be " shot .
" Drones wo n't miss if they 're firing a decent weapon like a rifle .
This is a significant improvement over human beings .
Most of the people who use guns are lousy marksmen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>British criminals should expect to be "shot.
" Drones won't miss if they're firing a decent weapon like a rifle.
This is a significant improvement over human beings.
Most of the people who use guns are lousy marksmen.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097066</id>
	<title>They should first spy on cheating MPs . . .</title>
	<author>PolygamousRanchKid </author>
	<datestamp>1265879820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> . . . a bunch of British MPs abused a system for living expenses: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_Kingdom\_Parliamentary\_expenses\_scandal" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_Kingdom\_Parliamentary\_expenses\_scandal</a> [wikipedia.org]
</p><p> . . . especially the guy who used tax payer money to clean the "moat" around his estate . . .
</p><p> . . . a drone armed with a Hellfire missile would be appropriate justice for him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.
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a bunch of British MPs abused a system for living expenses : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United \ _Kingdom \ _Parliamentary \ _expenses \ _scandal [ wikipedia.org ] .
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especially the guy who used tax payer money to clean the " moat " around his estate .
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. a drone armed with a Hellfire missile would be appropriate justice for him .</tokentext>
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a bunch of British MPs abused a system for living expenses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_Kingdom\_Parliamentary\_expenses\_scandal [wikipedia.org]
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especially the guy who used tax payer money to clean the "moat" around his estate .
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. a drone armed with a Hellfire missile would be appropriate justice for him.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096950</id>
	<title>Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>NoNeeeed</author>
	<datestamp>1265878800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a highly speculative article, assuming that because these drones can carry weapons that they will.</p><p>While I wouldn't put it past the Home Office to want to do this, I'd be surprised if the Police were too keen.</p><p>Here in the UK there is a strange dichotomy, we seem perfectly happy to be watched all the time, but the idea of armed police is an absolute no go.</p><p>Riot police in the UK don't even use water cannon, and rubber bullets haven't been used by british police in decades.  There are a few areas which have introduced a handful of Tasers, but these are used by specialist armed response units, not the average bobby on the beat.  The idea of launching anything potentially dangerous from the air seem highly unlikely when they don't even use it on the ground.</p><p>Of course that doesn't stop the police from being violent, but when they are it tends to be national news for weeks after.  See the death of Ian Tomlinson and the controversial "ketteling" technique used at the demonstrations in the summer for good examples.</p><p>The UK Police are currently trying desperately trying to improve their public image after a lot of bad press from the 2009 demos, and the ongoing harassment of photographers and the abuse of the Section 44 Stop and Search powers.  Doing something like this would put them back to square one the moment it goes wrong.</p><p>So while not impossible, this report seemed to be highly speculative and purely designed to get clicks and build paranoia.</p><p>For all their flaws, the UK police are not actually idiots, and in a land where police are not armed, and using a baton in a riot is considered heavy handed, let alone water cannon and rubber bullets, launching Tasers from the sky would be public relations disaster.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a highly speculative article , assuming that because these drones can carry weapons that they will.While I would n't put it past the Home Office to want to do this , I 'd be surprised if the Police were too keen.Here in the UK there is a strange dichotomy , we seem perfectly happy to be watched all the time , but the idea of armed police is an absolute no go.Riot police in the UK do n't even use water cannon , and rubber bullets have n't been used by british police in decades .
There are a few areas which have introduced a handful of Tasers , but these are used by specialist armed response units , not the average bobby on the beat .
The idea of launching anything potentially dangerous from the air seem highly unlikely when they do n't even use it on the ground.Of course that does n't stop the police from being violent , but when they are it tends to be national news for weeks after .
See the death of Ian Tomlinson and the controversial " ketteling " technique used at the demonstrations in the summer for good examples.The UK Police are currently trying desperately trying to improve their public image after a lot of bad press from the 2009 demos , and the ongoing harassment of photographers and the abuse of the Section 44 Stop and Search powers .
Doing something like this would put them back to square one the moment it goes wrong.So while not impossible , this report seemed to be highly speculative and purely designed to get clicks and build paranoia.For all their flaws , the UK police are not actually idiots , and in a land where police are not armed , and using a baton in a riot is considered heavy handed , let alone water cannon and rubber bullets , launching Tasers from the sky would be public relations disaster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a highly speculative article, assuming that because these drones can carry weapons that they will.While I wouldn't put it past the Home Office to want to do this, I'd be surprised if the Police were too keen.Here in the UK there is a strange dichotomy, we seem perfectly happy to be watched all the time, but the idea of armed police is an absolute no go.Riot police in the UK don't even use water cannon, and rubber bullets haven't been used by british police in decades.
There are a few areas which have introduced a handful of Tasers, but these are used by specialist armed response units, not the average bobby on the beat.
The idea of launching anything potentially dangerous from the air seem highly unlikely when they don't even use it on the ground.Of course that doesn't stop the police from being violent, but when they are it tends to be national news for weeks after.
See the death of Ian Tomlinson and the controversial "ketteling" technique used at the demonstrations in the summer for good examples.The UK Police are currently trying desperately trying to improve their public image after a lot of bad press from the 2009 demos, and the ongoing harassment of photographers and the abuse of the Section 44 Stop and Search powers.
Doing something like this would put them back to square one the moment it goes wrong.So while not impossible, this report seemed to be highly speculative and purely designed to get clicks and build paranoia.For all their flaws, the UK police are not actually idiots, and in a land where police are not armed, and using a baton in a riot is considered heavy handed, let alone water cannon and rubber bullets, launching Tasers from the sky would be public relations disaster.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31100432</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory Terminator/RoboCop Reference</title>
	<author>TomRC</author>
	<datestamp>1265907660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is in the UK - the correct media-robot-with-weapons reference here would be</p><p>"EX-TER-MIN-ATE!  EX-TER-MIN-ATE!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is in the UK - the correct media-robot-with-weapons reference here would be " EX-TER-MIN-ATE !
EX-TER-MIN-ATE ! "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is in the UK - the correct media-robot-with-weapons reference here would be"EX-TER-MIN-ATE!
EX-TER-MIN-ATE!"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31107646</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>rabiddeity</author>
	<datestamp>1265894040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Excellent reminder. I wish I had mod points right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Excellent reminder .
I wish I had mod points right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excellent reminder.
I wish I had mod points right now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097346</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265884140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Childishly easy?  There is equipment that can protect against directed sound weapons...a huge, bulky, helmet like apparatus that uses several things to block sound.</p><p>There's equipment that can stop tasers...basically a faraday cage around your body.</p><p>Heck, there's equipment that usually stops the low powered bullets used by cops.  Just wrap your body in kevlar vests and kevlar pants and handgun bullets won't be able to touch you.</p><p>Now, as you waddle down the street swathed in protective gear, it'll be trivial for the ground cops to surround you and beat you to the ground with billy clubs.  It'll also be a lot harder for you to get away after you commit a crime by trying to disable a drone.</p><p>Every weapon has a defense. As you may notice, the defense against lethal weapons is different from the one against the currently available nonlethal ones.  So if the cops have all these weapons available, it'll be a lot harder for you to avoid them all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Childishly easy ?
There is equipment that can protect against directed sound weapons...a huge , bulky , helmet like apparatus that uses several things to block sound.There 's equipment that can stop tasers...basically a faraday cage around your body.Heck , there 's equipment that usually stops the low powered bullets used by cops .
Just wrap your body in kevlar vests and kevlar pants and handgun bullets wo n't be able to touch you.Now , as you waddle down the street swathed in protective gear , it 'll be trivial for the ground cops to surround you and beat you to the ground with billy clubs .
It 'll also be a lot harder for you to get away after you commit a crime by trying to disable a drone.Every weapon has a defense .
As you may notice , the defense against lethal weapons is different from the one against the currently available nonlethal ones .
So if the cops have all these weapons available , it 'll be a lot harder for you to avoid them all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Childishly easy?
There is equipment that can protect against directed sound weapons...a huge, bulky, helmet like apparatus that uses several things to block sound.There's equipment that can stop tasers...basically a faraday cage around your body.Heck, there's equipment that usually stops the low powered bullets used by cops.
Just wrap your body in kevlar vests and kevlar pants and handgun bullets won't be able to touch you.Now, as you waddle down the street swathed in protective gear, it'll be trivial for the ground cops to surround you and beat you to the ground with billy clubs.
It'll also be a lot harder for you to get away after you commit a crime by trying to disable a drone.Every weapon has a defense.
As you may notice, the defense against lethal weapons is different from the one against the currently available nonlethal ones.
So if the cops have all these weapons available, it'll be a lot harder for you to avoid them all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096904</id>
	<title>Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>hyades1</author>
	<datestamp>1265921580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Anything sub-lethal will be childishly easy to defeat, once it's been seen in action a few times.  And no doubt the methods used will quickly be adapted by terrorists for Third World use on the more dangerous versions of the drones. </p><p> I sat here for barely a minute and came up with three ways to mislead and confuse the drones that would almost certainly have a high degree of success.  And I'm no expert. </p><p> One hint:  how will the cops look when they taser a minor who happens to be dressed like the alleged criminal, and how difficult would it be to engineer such a substitution? </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anything sub-lethal will be childishly easy to defeat , once it 's been seen in action a few times .
And no doubt the methods used will quickly be adapted by terrorists for Third World use on the more dangerous versions of the drones .
I sat here for barely a minute and came up with three ways to mislead and confuse the drones that would almost certainly have a high degree of success .
And I 'm no expert .
One hint : how will the cops look when they taser a minor who happens to be dressed like the alleged criminal , and how difficult would it be to engineer such a substitution ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Anything sub-lethal will be childishly easy to defeat, once it's been seen in action a few times.
And no doubt the methods used will quickly be adapted by terrorists for Third World use on the more dangerous versions of the drones.
I sat here for barely a minute and came up with three ways to mislead and confuse the drones that would almost certainly have a high degree of success.
And I'm no expert.
One hint:  how will the cops look when they taser a minor who happens to be dressed like the alleged criminal, and how difficult would it be to engineer such a substitution? </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097758</id>
	<title>Gonna make a new GTA London interesting</title>
	<author>KDR\_11k</author>
	<datestamp>1265888820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Provided they ever make another London GTA game that is, they seem to assume only American cities are of interest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Provided they ever make another London GTA game that is , they seem to assume only American cities are of interest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Provided they ever make another London GTA game that is, they seem to assume only American cities are of interest.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31110222</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference -Airfix</title>
	<author>NSN A392-99-964-5927</author>
	<datestamp>1266005460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'll be the first to say it: 1984 and V for Vendetta. I am come on, flying, armed, police drones?</p><p>Of course it's Britain.</p></div><p>See I knew AIRFIX were still in business.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll be the first to say it : 1984 and V for Vendetta .
I am come on , flying , armed , police drones ? Of course it 's Britain.See I knew AIRFIX were still in business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll be the first to say it: 1984 and V for Vendetta.
I am come on, flying, armed, police drones?Of course it's Britain.See I knew AIRFIX were still in business.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096998</id>
	<title>All in all...</title>
	<author>BearRanger</author>
	<datestamp>1265879160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>it's just another brick in the wall.

I can't believe these tactics and tools are the will of the people of the UK.  I sincerely hope that if it is not they rein in their government--while they still can.</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's just another brick in the wall .
I ca n't believe these tactics and tools are the will of the people of the UK .
I sincerely hope that if it is not they rein in their government--while they still can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's just another brick in the wall.
I can't believe these tactics and tools are the will of the people of the UK.
I sincerely hope that if it is not they rein in their government--while they still can.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31100260</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1265907000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I find more interesting that you've decided they're guilty, seemingly on little to no evidence and contrary to the results of official investigations.<br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; </p><blockquote><div><p>So please, stop telling us we should be giving them the benefit of the doubt, that this report is only to fuel paranoia.</p></div></blockquote><p>You're correct.  Your paranoia seems to require no further fuel.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I find more interesting that you 've decided they 're guilty , seemingly on little to no evidence and contrary to the results of official investigations .
    So please , stop telling us we should be giving them the benefit of the doubt , that this report is only to fuel paranoia.You 're correct .
Your paranoia seems to require no further fuel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I find more interesting that you've decided they're guilty, seemingly on little to no evidence and contrary to the results of official investigations.
  
  So please, stop telling us we should be giving them the benefit of the doubt, that this report is only to fuel paranoia.You're correct.
Your paranoia seems to require no further fuel.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097016</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>zmollusc</author>
	<datestamp>1265879340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't understand your hint. I don't know how things work in your area, but round here when cops kill or frame someone it is hushed up by cops and all the evidence is 'lost'. If there is enough of a fuss made, an investigation is held by cops and the results are heavily censored as they are 'not in the public interest'.</p><p>So yeah, if a cop tasers an innocent minor and gets found out, that cop will get suspended on full pay for a few years while an investigation chugs along, then when the fuss has died down and the not guilty verdict brought in he will be reinstated and get the promotions he missed out on while suspended.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand your hint .
I do n't know how things work in your area , but round here when cops kill or frame someone it is hushed up by cops and all the evidence is 'lost' .
If there is enough of a fuss made , an investigation is held by cops and the results are heavily censored as they are 'not in the public interest'.So yeah , if a cop tasers an innocent minor and gets found out , that cop will get suspended on full pay for a few years while an investigation chugs along , then when the fuss has died down and the not guilty verdict brought in he will be reinstated and get the promotions he missed out on while suspended .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand your hint.
I don't know how things work in your area, but round here when cops kill or frame someone it is hushed up by cops and all the evidence is 'lost'.
If there is enough of a fuss made, an investigation is held by cops and the results are heavily censored as they are 'not in the public interest'.So yeah, if a cop tasers an innocent minor and gets found out, that cop will get suspended on full pay for a few years while an investigation chugs along, then when the fuss has died down and the not guilty verdict brought in he will be reinstated and get the promotions he missed out on while suspended.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097514</id>
	<title>Tactical Nukes</title>
	<author>Odinlake</author>
	<datestamp>1265886420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>on unmaned remote controled vehicles is ultimately the only thing that will deter shoplifters.</htmltext>
<tokenext>on unmaned remote controled vehicles is ultimately the only thing that will deter shoplifters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>on unmaned remote controled vehicles is ultimately the only thing that will deter shoplifters.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31102168</id>
	<title>Robot Drones?</title>
	<author>sabt-pestnu</author>
	<datestamp>1265916300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My first thought was "like, you know, bees?"  Which led to robot queens, robot hives,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My first thought was " like , you know , bees ?
" Which led to robot queens , robot hives , ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My first thought was "like, you know, bees?
"  Which led to robot queens, robot hives, ....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097538</id>
	<title>One word: . . .</title>
	<author>warehousenorth</author>
	<datestamp>1265886660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>. . . Daleks!.</htmltext>
<tokenext>.
. .
Daleks ! .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.
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Daleks!.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097868</id>
	<title>Re:Dark Angel</title>
	<author>Caue</author>
	<datestamp>1265890020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>that was such a lame show that even jessica alba couldn't save it. the drones wouldn't stand a chance.</htmltext>
<tokenext>that was such a lame show that even jessica alba could n't save it .
the drones would n't stand a chance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that was such a lame show that even jessica alba couldn't save it.
the drones wouldn't stand a chance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098336</id>
	<title>Re:Idiots on parade</title>
	<author>u38cg</author>
	<datestamp>1265896200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since as far as I can tell the suggestion that these things will be carrying weaponry is entirely a fiction dreamt up by Wired, I wouldn't worry about it too much.  Add that to chavs hunting them for sport and I don't really see much of an issue.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since as far as I can tell the suggestion that these things will be carrying weaponry is entirely a fiction dreamt up by Wired , I would n't worry about it too much .
Add that to chavs hunting them for sport and I do n't really see much of an issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since as far as I can tell the suggestion that these things will be carrying weaponry is entirely a fiction dreamt up by Wired, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Add that to chavs hunting them for sport and I don't really see much of an issue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31113250</id>
	<title>Orwell Just a Few Decades Off????</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265991420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, but the British approach to security is getting way to close to Orwell's 1984. Seems he may have simply been off by a few decades. Between the level of public video surveillance and now armed flying robots, they'll soon have two way TV's that don't turn off (though a lot of folks leave their PC on, and have a video camera on their monitor already) complete with one channel, and a better understanding of INGSOC.<br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but the British approach to security is getting way to close to Orwell 's 1984 .
Seems he may have simply been off by a few decades .
Between the level of public video surveillance and now armed flying robots , they 'll soon have two way TV 's that do n't turn off ( though a lot of folks leave their PC on , and have a video camera on their monitor already ) complete with one channel , and a better understanding of INGSOC .
   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but the British approach to security is getting way to close to Orwell's 1984.
Seems he may have simply been off by a few decades.
Between the level of public video surveillance and now armed flying robots, they'll soon have two way TV's that don't turn off (though a lot of folks leave their PC on, and have a video camera on their monitor already) complete with one channel, and a better understanding of INGSOC.
  
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097850</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>Caue</author>
	<datestamp>1265889900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>jean charles, brazilian immigrant shot in the head by the police in broad daylight would disagree if he wasn't so busy pushing dasies. it was just after the terrorist attack, but still.</htmltext>
<tokenext>jean charles , brazilian immigrant shot in the head by the police in broad daylight would disagree if he was n't so busy pushing dasies .
it was just after the terrorist attack , but still .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>jean charles, brazilian immigrant shot in the head by the police in broad daylight would disagree if he wasn't so busy pushing dasies.
it was just after the terrorist attack, but still.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097878</id>
	<title>Re:One word: . . .</title>
	<author>delinear</author>
	<datestamp>1265890140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know, as much as it would suck to be ruled over by a totalitarian government with their own private police force, if we could have Daleks, I might forgive them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , as much as it would suck to be ruled over by a totalitarian government with their own private police force , if we could have Daleks , I might forgive them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, as much as it would suck to be ruled over by a totalitarian government with their own private police force, if we could have Daleks, I might forgive them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098086</id>
	<title>HERTI is not armed</title>
	<author>dave420</author>
	<datestamp>1265892960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The HERTI is not armed - it is purely reconnaissance.  The BAE Fury is the armed version.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The HERTI is not armed - it is purely reconnaissance .
The BAE Fury is the armed version .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The HERTI is not armed - it is purely reconnaissance.
The BAE Fury is the armed version.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31110310</id>
	<title>Shooting them out of the SKY</title>
	<author>NSN A392-99-964-5927</author>
	<datestamp>1266006660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know my legal rights regarding FIREARMS and I have a FAC. (Firearms Certificate) If these drones end up over my private land or use my air space, they are going to be shot down from the SKY. I was just clay pigeon shooting!

My ex mil mates will join me and legally I am allowed to shoot anything on my private land or airspace within reason. I say bring it on, this will will be fun. Who is going to edge bets on the first one shot out of the sky or the crystal code signal used gets hacked and the drone crashes?

Love NSN</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know my legal rights regarding FIREARMS and I have a FAC .
( Firearms Certificate ) If these drones end up over my private land or use my air space , they are going to be shot down from the SKY .
I was just clay pigeon shooting !
My ex mil mates will join me and legally I am allowed to shoot anything on my private land or airspace within reason .
I say bring it on , this will will be fun .
Who is going to edge bets on the first one shot out of the sky or the crystal code signal used gets hacked and the drone crashes ?
Love NSN</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know my legal rights regarding FIREARMS and I have a FAC.
(Firearms Certificate) If these drones end up over my private land or use my air space, they are going to be shot down from the SKY.
I was just clay pigeon shooting!
My ex mil mates will join me and legally I am allowed to shoot anything on my private land or airspace within reason.
I say bring it on, this will will be fun.
Who is going to edge bets on the first one shot out of the sky or the crystal code signal used gets hacked and the drone crashes?
Love NSN</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096946</id>
	<title>Re:Timeline</title>
	<author>BuFf0k\_SPQA</author>
	<datestamp>1265878800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well said... This is a worrisome developement, especially if, like me, you live in South Africa, where our government will attempt to implement these half-baked ideas in an even more half-arsed way... Haven't our governments seen the Terminator movies, combined with the all knowing data repository that is google, when machines become self-aware, we will be in some serious trouble, at least in Terminator there were only military systems to worry about... Now we have civil robots that could make the machine's domination of our race that much easier...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well said... This is a worrisome developement , especially if , like me , you live in South Africa , where our government will attempt to implement these half-baked ideas in an even more half-arsed way... Have n't our governments seen the Terminator movies , combined with the all knowing data repository that is google , when machines become self-aware , we will be in some serious trouble , at least in Terminator there were only military systems to worry about... Now we have civil robots that could make the machine 's domination of our race that much easier.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well said... This is a worrisome developement, especially if, like me, you live in South Africa, where our government will attempt to implement these half-baked ideas in an even more half-arsed way... Haven't our governments seen the Terminator movies, combined with the all knowing data repository that is google, when machines become self-aware, we will be in some serious trouble, at least in Terminator there were only military systems to worry about... Now we have civil robots that could make the machine's domination of our race that much easier...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096840</id>
	<title>From the people who brought you Skynet...</title>
	<author>Skratchez</author>
	<datestamp>1265920920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>another paradigm shift in law enforcement. Keeping the keyboard cops on their butts and the streets of England safe, with Hunter Taser bots!</htmltext>
<tokenext>another paradigm shift in law enforcement .
Keeping the keyboard cops on their butts and the streets of England safe , with Hunter Taser bots !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>another paradigm shift in law enforcement.
Keeping the keyboard cops on their butts and the streets of England safe, with Hunter Taser bots!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31101872</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>internewt</author>
	<datestamp>1265915160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If somehow a Scientology Party got into power in britain, then I'd start shitting myself about "1984"</p></div><p>Oh, they will be in, in May.</p><p>Cameron talks far too much about faith schools.</p><p>And prove my point that they'll be in and fucking the country up fast(er), this comment will probably get modded down!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If somehow a Scientology Party got into power in britain , then I 'd start shitting myself about " 1984 " Oh , they will be in , in May.Cameron talks far too much about faith schools.And prove my point that they 'll be in and fucking the country up fast ( er ) , this comment will probably get modded down !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If somehow a Scientology Party got into power in britain, then I'd start shitting myself about "1984"Oh, they will be in, in May.Cameron talks far too much about faith schools.And prove my point that they'll be in and fucking the country up fast(er), this comment will probably get modded down!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098036</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory 1984 Reference</title>
	<author>Ginger Unicorn</author>
	<datestamp>1265892120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you even read either of those books? The amount of times people on slashdot shit out "references" to 1984 which basically consist of mentioning the title of the book whenever the uk government proposes anything invasive or tries to give too much power to the police. This is not insightful. Do you even know what 1984 is about, other than "they have cameras everywhere"?</p><p>If somehow a Scientology Party got into power in britain, then I'd start shitting myself about "1984"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you even read either of those books ?
The amount of times people on slashdot shit out " references " to 1984 which basically consist of mentioning the title of the book whenever the uk government proposes anything invasive or tries to give too much power to the police .
This is not insightful .
Do you even know what 1984 is about , other than " they have cameras everywhere " ? If somehow a Scientology Party got into power in britain , then I 'd start shitting myself about " 1984 "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you even read either of those books?
The amount of times people on slashdot shit out "references" to 1984 which basically consist of mentioning the title of the book whenever the uk government proposes anything invasive or tries to give too much power to the police.
This is not insightful.
Do you even know what 1984 is about, other than "they have cameras everywhere"?If somehow a Scientology Party got into power in britain, then I'd start shitting myself about "1984"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097460</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265885700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A book you may find interesting, about the issues you describe above.</p><p>The title is The Technology of Political Control., written in 1977 by Carol Ackroyd, Karen Margolis, Jonathan Rosenhead, Tim Shallice. Penguin Paperback, ISBN 0140219439</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A book you may find interesting , about the issues you describe above.The title is The Technology of Political Control. , written in 1977 by Carol Ackroyd , Karen Margolis , Jonathan Rosenhead , Tim Shallice .
Penguin Paperback , ISBN 0140219439</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A book you may find interesting, about the issues you describe above.The title is The Technology of Political Control., written in 1977 by Carol Ackroyd, Karen Margolis, Jonathan Rosenhead, Tim Shallice.
Penguin Paperback, ISBN 0140219439</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31099330</id>
	<title>Aw man</title>
	<author>moogoogaipan</author>
	<datestamp>1265902440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does this mean that we're no longer have long car chasing videos to watch? You know, like OJ's?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean that we 're no longer have long car chasing videos to watch ?
You know , like OJ 's ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean that we're no longer have long car chasing videos to watch?
You know, like OJ's?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31098532</id>
	<title>Re:Timeline</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1265897880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Its not like these things are autonomous or have even the remotest capability of independent decision making.</p></div> </blockquote><p>In that case it would be horribly dangerous to use them in urban situations, because if the control signal is interrupted, they come crashing down. At the very least they require autopilot with staying stationary, collision avoidance, and returning to preset coordinates (the base) if control is lost and not restored within a certain time, avoiding collisions along the way.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not like these things are autonomous or have even the remotest capability of independent decision making .
In that case it would be horribly dangerous to use them in urban situations , because if the control signal is interrupted , they come crashing down .
At the very least they require autopilot with staying stationary , collision avoidance , and returning to preset coordinates ( the base ) if control is lost and not restored within a certain time , avoiding collisions along the way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its not like these things are autonomous or have even the remotest capability of independent decision making.
In that case it would be horribly dangerous to use them in urban situations, because if the control signal is interrupted, they come crashing down.
At the very least they require autopilot with staying stationary, collision avoidance, and returning to preset coordinates (the base) if control is lost and not restored within a certain time, avoiding collisions along the way.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31099740</id>
	<title>If this was done in the USA...</title>
	<author>BenEnglishAtHome</author>
	<datestamp>1265904660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...the market for <a href="http://www.gundigest.com/article/GunDigest-9-24-09-Pieper/" title="gundigest.com">volley guns</a> [gundigest.com] would take off.  New manufacturers would come online nearly overnite.

</p><p>I can just imagine a stereotypical U.S. liberal (who definitely hates guns but should also hate police surveillance, even though they often don't) contemplating the situation.  How long before their head would explode?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...the market for volley guns [ gundigest.com ] would take off .
New manufacturers would come online nearly overnite .
I can just imagine a stereotypical U.S. liberal ( who definitely hates guns but should also hate police surveillance , even though they often do n't ) contemplating the situation .
How long before their head would explode ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the market for volley guns [gundigest.com] would take off.
New manufacturers would come online nearly overnite.
I can just imagine a stereotypical U.S. liberal (who definitely hates guns but should also hate police surveillance, even though they often don't) contemplating the situation.
How long before their head would explode?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097826</id>
	<title>Re:Not impossible, but very unlikely</title>
	<author>Heed00</author>
	<datestamp>1265889720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>In relation to the Jean Charles de Menezes case, the officer in charge, Cressida Dick, has actually been promoted:
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/dec/12/menezes-london" title="guardian.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/dec/12/menezes-london</a> [guardian.co.uk]
<br>
<br>
Not much accountability going around in the U.K.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In relation to the Jean Charles de Menezes case , the officer in charge , Cressida Dick , has actually been promoted : http : //www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/dec/12/menezes-london [ guardian.co.uk ] Not much accountability going around in the U.K .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In relation to the Jean Charles de Menezes case, the officer in charge, Cressida Dick, has actually been promoted:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/dec/12/menezes-london [guardian.co.uk]


Not much accountability going around in the U.K.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31099570</id>
	<title>Re:Timeline</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1265903760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Its not like these things are autonomous or have even the remotest capability of independent decision making.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Obviously that depends on how you define "decision" (which you may believe to be inherently different than "calculation"); however UAVs do have the capability to make as many independent decisions as are required for an airline pilot to complete an average flight, for whatever that's worth.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not like these things are autonomous or have even the remotest capability of independent decision making .
Obviously that depends on how you define " decision " ( which you may believe to be inherently different than " calculation " ) ; however UAVs do have the capability to make as many independent decisions as are required for an airline pilot to complete an average flight , for whatever that 's worth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its not like these things are autonomous or have even the remotest capability of independent decision making.
Obviously that depends on how you define "decision" (which you may believe to be inherently different than "calculation"); however UAVs do have the capability to make as many independent decisions as are required for an airline pilot to complete an average flight, for whatever that's worth.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31096780</id>
	<title>not just criminals...</title>
	<author>AliasMarlowe</author>
	<datestamp>1265920320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>British criminals...antisocial motorists</p></div><p>Last I heard, antisocial motoring was rather annoying, but not actually a crime.
<br> <br>
"Citizens^W Subjects of the Crown, prepare to be coerced into socially approved behaviours!"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>British criminals...antisocial motoristsLast I heard , antisocial motoring was rather annoying , but not actually a crime .
" Citizens ^ W Subjects of the Crown , prepare to be coerced into socially approved behaviours !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>British criminals...antisocial motoristsLast I heard, antisocial motoring was rather annoying, but not actually a crime.
"Citizens^W Subjects of the Crown, prepare to be coerced into socially approved behaviours!
"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_016239.31097812</id>
	<title>Re:Timeline</title>
	<author>neumayr</author>
	<datestamp>1265889540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From the Wikipedia article:<p><div class="quote"><p>To achieve a UAV that can safely fly within civilian airspace, BAE Systems is developing a "sense and avoid" system for HERTI, utilising a radar and electro-optical systems.</p></div><p>Sounds like autonomous decision making to me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the Wikipedia article : To achieve a UAV that can safely fly within civilian airspace , BAE Systems is developing a " sense and avoid " system for HERTI , utilising a radar and electro-optical systems.Sounds like autonomous decision making to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the Wikipedia article:To achieve a UAV that can safely fly within civilian airspace, BAE Systems is developing a "sense and avoid" system for HERTI, utilising a radar and electro-optical systems.Sounds like autonomous decision making to me.
	</sentencetext>
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