<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_10_1712200</id>
	<title>Google's Experimental Fiber Network</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1265822400000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>gmuslera writes <i>"Not enough speed from your ISP? Google seems to <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/think-big-with-gig-our-experimental.html">go into that market too</a>. 'We're planning to build and test ultra high-speed broadband networks in a small number of trial locations across the United States. We'll deliver Internet speeds more than 100 times faster than what most Americans have access to today with 1 gigabit per second, fiber-to-the-home connections. We plan to offer service at a competitive price to at least 50,000 and potentially up to 500,000 people.' The goal isnt just to give ultra fast speed for some lucky ones, but to test under that conditions things like new generations of apps, and deployment techniques that take advantage of it."</i> If they need a test neighborhood, I'm sure mine would be willing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>gmuslera writes " Not enough speed from your ISP ?
Google seems to go into that market too .
'We 're planning to build and test ultra high-speed broadband networks in a small number of trial locations across the United States .
We 'll deliver Internet speeds more than 100 times faster than what most Americans have access to today with 1 gigabit per second , fiber-to-the-home connections .
We plan to offer service at a competitive price to at least 50,000 and potentially up to 500,000 people .
' The goal isnt just to give ultra fast speed for some lucky ones , but to test under that conditions things like new generations of apps , and deployment techniques that take advantage of it .
" If they need a test neighborhood , I 'm sure mine would be willing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>gmuslera writes "Not enough speed from your ISP?
Google seems to go into that market too.
'We're planning to build and test ultra high-speed broadband networks in a small number of trial locations across the United States.
We'll deliver Internet speeds more than 100 times faster than what most Americans have access to today with 1 gigabit per second, fiber-to-the-home connections.
We plan to offer service at a competitive price to at least 50,000 and potentially up to 500,000 people.
' The goal isnt just to give ultra fast speed for some lucky ones, but to test under that conditions things like new generations of apps, and deployment techniques that take advantage of it.
" If they need a test neighborhood, I'm sure mine would be willing.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088618</id>
	<title>No Northern Locales?</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1265052360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I take this:</p><blockquote><div><p>To that end, we'll use our RFI to identify interested communities and to assess local factors that will impact the efficiency and speed of our deployment, such as the level of community support, local resources, weather conditions, approved construction methods and local regulatory issues.</p></div></blockquote><p>to mean that they're not going to deal with winter in this round.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I take this : To that end , we 'll use our RFI to identify interested communities and to assess local factors that will impact the efficiency and speed of our deployment , such as the level of community support , local resources , weather conditions , approved construction methods and local regulatory issues.to mean that they 're not going to deal with winter in this round .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I take this:To that end, we'll use our RFI to identify interested communities and to assess local factors that will impact the efficiency and speed of our deployment, such as the level of community support, local resources, weather conditions, approved construction methods and local regulatory issues.to mean that they're not going to deal with winter in this round.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087866</id>
	<title>Madison, WI!</title>
	<author>mim</author>
	<datestamp>1265049240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Best choice to test market is a political seat and major university town which is in need of this sort of upgrade!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Best choice to test market is a political seat and major university town which is in need of this sort of upgrade !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best choice to test market is a political seat and major university town which is in need of this sort of upgrade!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088788</id>
	<title>Re:Here is what is going to happen.</title>
	<author>Random BedHead Ed</author>
	<datestamp>1265052900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The big names in networking (AT&amp;T, Charter, etc.) are going to sue Google on antitrust grounds because it is easier to hire lawyers than to upgrade failing and obsolete networks.</p></div><p>Perhaps they will. But consider: this is not a profit engine for Google, in much the same way that Android isn't a profit engine. Google says this service is to test new high-bandwidth technologies, and I don't doubt that's true, but it's probably <em>also</em> true that they're just trying to upset this market because the established cable companies are a threat to their other businesses, both because of their slowness to raise the bandwidth bar and because of their marriages to legacy content distribution.</p><p>Because of this, Google probably doesn't care whether they own this service or not. I bet if the big networking dinosaurs sued Google, Google could settle with them by agreeing to spin off the fiber Internet company, yet still accomplish all of the original project goals. It would be like if Google had to cut Android free - it would still satisfy Google's main goal of creating an open platform that's more friendly to their mobile web services than Apple's or Microsoft's is likely to be.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The big names in networking ( AT&amp;T , Charter , etc .
) are going to sue Google on antitrust grounds because it is easier to hire lawyers than to upgrade failing and obsolete networks.Perhaps they will .
But consider : this is not a profit engine for Google , in much the same way that Android is n't a profit engine .
Google says this service is to test new high-bandwidth technologies , and I do n't doubt that 's true , but it 's probably also true that they 're just trying to upset this market because the established cable companies are a threat to their other businesses , both because of their slowness to raise the bandwidth bar and because of their marriages to legacy content distribution.Because of this , Google probably does n't care whether they own this service or not .
I bet if the big networking dinosaurs sued Google , Google could settle with them by agreeing to spin off the fiber Internet company , yet still accomplish all of the original project goals .
It would be like if Google had to cut Android free - it would still satisfy Google 's main goal of creating an open platform that 's more friendly to their mobile web services than Apple 's or Microsoft 's is likely to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The big names in networking (AT&amp;T, Charter, etc.
) are going to sue Google on antitrust grounds because it is easier to hire lawyers than to upgrade failing and obsolete networks.Perhaps they will.
But consider: this is not a profit engine for Google, in much the same way that Android isn't a profit engine.
Google says this service is to test new high-bandwidth technologies, and I don't doubt that's true, but it's probably also true that they're just trying to upset this market because the established cable companies are a threat to their other businesses, both because of their slowness to raise the bandwidth bar and because of their marriages to legacy content distribution.Because of this, Google probably doesn't care whether they own this service or not.
I bet if the big networking dinosaurs sued Google, Google could settle with them by agreeing to spin off the fiber Internet company, yet still accomplish all of the original project goals.
It would be like if Google had to cut Android free - it would still satisfy Google's main goal of creating an open platform that's more friendly to their mobile web services than Apple's or Microsoft's is likely to be.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089020</id>
	<title>Most home user cant afford a decent 1gb router</title>
	<author>Trieuvan</author>
	<datestamp>1265053680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My condo happens to have fiber optic internet included in HOA dues. Problem is my router (dlink 4300) only does 100Mbits. I did try to upgrade to dlink 655 and it crashed every few days . I guess the only option is to build your own router which is not feasible for regular users.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My condo happens to have fiber optic internet included in HOA dues .
Problem is my router ( dlink 4300 ) only does 100Mbits .
I did try to upgrade to dlink 655 and it crashed every few days .
I guess the only option is to build your own router which is not feasible for regular users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My condo happens to have fiber optic internet included in HOA dues.
Problem is my router (dlink 4300) only does 100Mbits.
I did try to upgrade to dlink 655 and it crashed every few days .
I guess the only option is to build your own router which is not feasible for regular users.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089998</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>not already in use</author>
	<datestamp>1265014980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google seems willing and ready to tap any market that is dominated by dick-wads that have gotten too comfortable charging too much for too little. More power to them.  They're going to make a lot of money off of innovating and giving people their money's worth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google seems willing and ready to tap any market that is dominated by dick-wads that have gotten too comfortable charging too much for too little .
More power to them .
They 're going to make a lot of money off of innovating and giving people their money 's worth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google seems willing and ready to tap any market that is dominated by dick-wads that have gotten too comfortable charging too much for too little.
More power to them.
They're going to make a lot of money off of innovating and giving people their money's worth.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090746</id>
	<title>Do you realize the potential for gaming?</title>
	<author>CrazyJim1</author>
	<datestamp>1265019000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The higher the bandwith = the more players you can have in the game</htmltext>
<tokenext>The higher the bandwith = the more players you can have in the game</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The higher the bandwith = the more players you can have in the game</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087808</id>
	<title>It doesn't matter right now</title>
	<author>Johnberg</author>
	<datestamp>1265049060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a 20Mb fiber line and seldom get speeds above 1Mb.  Once I get off the ISP's network, the speeds are throttled down either by other carriers or the destination website.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a 20Mb fiber line and seldom get speeds above 1Mb .
Once I get off the ISP 's network , the speeds are throttled down either by other carriers or the destination website .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a 20Mb fiber line and seldom get speeds above 1Mb.
Once I get off the ISP's network, the speeds are throttled down either by other carriers or the destination website.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087770</id>
	<title>Community Organization?</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1265048880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just tried to 'recommend my community' and apparently one needs to be part of some community organization to make the recommendation. I wonder if 'my house' can be considered a community organization?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just tried to 'recommend my community ' and apparently one needs to be part of some community organization to make the recommendation .
I wonder if 'my house ' can be considered a community organization ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just tried to 'recommend my community' and apparently one needs to be part of some community organization to make the recommendation.
I wonder if 'my house' can be considered a community organization?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088262</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>neophytepwner</author>
	<datestamp>1265051040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Airline industry?  Highspeed rail?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Airline industry ?
Highspeed rail ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Airline industry?
Highspeed rail?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087728</id>
	<title>Here is what is going to happen.</title>
	<author>eparker05</author>
	<datestamp>1265048760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The big names in networking (AT&amp;T, Charter, etc.) are going to sue Google on antitrust grounds because it is easier to hire lawyers than to upgrade failing and obsolete networks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The big names in networking ( AT&amp;T , Charter , etc .
) are going to sue Google on antitrust grounds because it is easier to hire lawyers than to upgrade failing and obsolete networks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The big names in networking (AT&amp;T, Charter, etc.
) are going to sue Google on antitrust grounds because it is easier to hire lawyers than to upgrade failing and obsolete networks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088770</id>
	<title>Faster better stronger.</title>
	<author>tstubbendeck</author>
	<datestamp>1265052840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm all for more competition in this area I think comcast and timewarner need a run for their money.  I wish google the best.  If this succeeds ill wait to see jsut how open they keep it.  But the extra speed would be nice regardless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm all for more competition in this area I think comcast and timewarner need a run for their money .
I wish google the best .
If this succeeds ill wait to see jsut how open they keep it .
But the extra speed would be nice regardless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm all for more competition in this area I think comcast and timewarner need a run for their money.
I wish google the best.
If this succeeds ill wait to see jsut how open they keep it.
But the extra speed would be nice regardless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088852</id>
	<title>So...</title>
	<author>EnsilZah</author>
	<datestamp>1265053140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When do they gain satellite launch capability?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When do they gain satellite launch capability ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When do they gain satellite launch capability?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089030</id>
	<title>watch out, big brother is watching!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265053680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>no need to have cookies tracking your every move now!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>no need to have cookies tracking your every move now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no need to have cookies tracking your every move now!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31113262</id>
	<title>Canada</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1265991480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please come to Canada Google with your fiber ISP goodness. Bell and Rogers need to be knocked on their ass. Google is likely the only one that can't bully out of the market also.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please come to Canada Google with your fiber ISP goodness .
Bell and Rogers need to be knocked on their ass .
Google is likely the only one that ca n't bully out of the market also .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please come to Canada Google with your fiber ISP goodness.
Bell and Rogers need to be knocked on their ass.
Google is likely the only one that can't bully out of the market also.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31134318</id>
	<title>Re:Mark Shuttleworth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266161760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>People often forget too that downloading at that speed is dependant on hard disk throughput. You'll struggle to get above 50MB/sec which is about 400MBit a sec.</p></div><p>I get consistent 80+ MB/s from my Ubuntu server box to my Win7 media computer with a cheap Seagate 500gb HDD. Even peaks at over 100MB/s at times, and thats even without jumbo frames.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People often forget too that downloading at that speed is dependant on hard disk throughput .
You 'll struggle to get above 50MB/sec which is about 400MBit a sec.I get consistent 80 + MB/s from my Ubuntu server box to my Win7 media computer with a cheap Seagate 500gb HDD .
Even peaks at over 100MB/s at times , and thats even without jumbo frames .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People often forget too that downloading at that speed is dependant on hard disk throughput.
You'll struggle to get above 50MB/sec which is about 400MBit a sec.I get consistent 80+ MB/s from my Ubuntu server box to my Win7 media computer with a cheap Seagate 500gb HDD.
Even peaks at over 100MB/s at times, and thats even without jumbo frames.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090410</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089616</id>
	<title>Re:I'm shocked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265056260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nor has anyone mentioned TPB!<br>any idea if the gb/sec is sync or async?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nor has anyone mentioned TPB ! any idea if the gb/sec is sync or async ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nor has anyone mentioned TPB!any idea if the gb/sec is sync or async?
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31103986</id>
	<title>Already happening, example BellAlient in Canada...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265879220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Posting AC due to work related communication mandates...</p><p>Google has paid for the installation and maintenance of its own dedicated fiber network connection to our main node site here in St. John's Newfoundland (an Island northeast of Nova Scotia and Maine for you mainlanders). Google did this so that content like youtube and gmail runs faster and cheaper than would otherwise be possible though our company, BellAliant. The only reason why BellAliant is going along with this, as far as I can infer, is to not piss off the subscriber base with laggy connections when watching LOL Cat on youtube, and to also claim we have the best speeds for things like youtube and etc.</p><p>Just my $0.02 on this topic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Posting AC due to work related communication mandates...Google has paid for the installation and maintenance of its own dedicated fiber network connection to our main node site here in St. John 's Newfoundland ( an Island northeast of Nova Scotia and Maine for you mainlanders ) .
Google did this so that content like youtube and gmail runs faster and cheaper than would otherwise be possible though our company , BellAliant .
The only reason why BellAliant is going along with this , as far as I can infer , is to not piss off the subscriber base with laggy connections when watching LOL Cat on youtube , and to also claim we have the best speeds for things like youtube and etc.Just my $ 0.02 on this topic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Posting AC due to work related communication mandates...Google has paid for the installation and maintenance of its own dedicated fiber network connection to our main node site here in St. John's Newfoundland (an Island northeast of Nova Scotia and Maine for you mainlanders).
Google did this so that content like youtube and gmail runs faster and cheaper than would otherwise be possible though our company, BellAliant.
The only reason why BellAliant is going along with this, as far as I can infer, is to not piss off the subscriber base with laggy connections when watching LOL Cat on youtube, and to also claim we have the best speeds for things like youtube and etc.Just my $0.02 on this topic.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31091280</id>
	<title>Re:Yes.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265021040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this a suggested modification to RFC 1149?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this a suggested modification to RFC 1149 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this a suggested modification to RFC 1149?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088186</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088042</id>
	<title>Re:Community Organization?</title>
	<author>matzahboy</author>
	<datestamp>1265050080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's too expensive for Google to roll out cables for a single home. Communities mean that the cables transferring the data are shared, and it is therefore cheaper for Google</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's too expensive for Google to roll out cables for a single home .
Communities mean that the cables transferring the data are shared , and it is therefore cheaper for Google</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's too expensive for Google to roll out cables for a single home.
Communities mean that the cables transferring the data are shared, and it is therefore cheaper for Google</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087770</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088904</id>
	<title>Re:No article, just a blog post</title>
	<author>PPalmgren</author>
	<datestamp>1265053320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>20 megabits should be enough for anyone</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>20 megabits should be enough for anyone</tokentext>
<sentencetext>20 megabits should be enough for anyone</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088118</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088972</id>
	<title>Re:I'm shocked</title>
	<author>f8l\_0e</author>
	<datestamp>1265053500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're not slipping, they're just busy flogging themselves thinking about how much porn they can download at that rate.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're not slipping , they 're just busy flogging themselves thinking about how much porn they can download at that rate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're not slipping, they're just busy flogging themselves thinking about how much porn they can download at that rate.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090072</id>
	<title>Re:I'm shocked</title>
	<author>MarkRose</author>
	<datestamp>1265015340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, I was busying thinking about how wanktastically fast it would be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , I was busying thinking about how wanktastically fast it would be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, I was busying thinking about how wanktastically fast it would be.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087848</id>
	<title>Re:Community Organization?</title>
	<author>srealm</author>
	<datestamp>1265049180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Filling in the community organization is optional (not a required field).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Filling in the community organization is optional ( not a required field ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Filling in the community organization is optional (not a required field).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087770</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088810</id>
	<title>This fits in with the big Google picture...</title>
	<author>jabjoe</author>
	<datestamp>1265053020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wouldn't a thin client computing world, sorry cloud computing world, require a fast network like this? Then we wouldn't need to store or compute anything locally, and all that data can be used to target adds to us...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't a thin client computing world , sorry cloud computing world , require a fast network like this ?
Then we would n't need to store or compute anything locally , and all that data can be used to target adds to us.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't a thin client computing world, sorry cloud computing world, require a fast network like this?
Then we wouldn't need to store or compute anything locally, and all that data can be used to target adds to us...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087742</id>
	<title>Oh no...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265048820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now they take it to the next level, they will harvest all the information directly to the source of it, one hundred time faster than before. *Insert all the possible paranoia*</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now they take it to the next level , they will harvest all the information directly to the source of it , one hundred time faster than before .
* Insert all the possible paranoia *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now they take it to the next level, they will harvest all the information directly to the source of it, one hundred time faster than before.
*Insert all the possible paranoia*</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088152</id>
	<title>Google isn't stupidly altruistic</title>
	<author>MSTCrow5429</author>
	<datestamp>1265050500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Would be much easier to data-mine if you control actual pieces of the network...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would be much easier to data-mine if you control actual pieces of the network.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would be much easier to data-mine if you control actual pieces of the network...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31093688</id>
	<title>Perfect for geeks</title>
	<author>saikou</author>
	<datestamp>1265033100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But for everyone else, it'd be difficult - "If your Google High Speed Home Connection is down, please email us and we will get back to you in 2 to 5 business days"?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Seriously, this probably would work out better for small compact communities with lots of users. Except I bet those are either in exclusive contracts already (apartment complexes, universities that provide their own network, etc), or are too far from nearby Google node with no easy way to plug them in.<br>Getting permit to run a new fiber to individual home is very expensive. So for homeowners with existing homes (versus communities being built out) this is also probably not realistic.<br>Perhaps this could be expanded later with small local wireless segments, but again, given how "interactive" google's support is, this won't work for regular users.</p><p>Interesting experiment, not holding my breath though *sigh*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But for everyone else , it 'd be difficult - " If your Google High Speed Home Connection is down , please email us and we will get back to you in 2 to 5 business days " ?
: ) Seriously , this probably would work out better for small compact communities with lots of users .
Except I bet those are either in exclusive contracts already ( apartment complexes , universities that provide their own network , etc ) , or are too far from nearby Google node with no easy way to plug them in.Getting permit to run a new fiber to individual home is very expensive .
So for homeowners with existing homes ( versus communities being built out ) this is also probably not realistic.Perhaps this could be expanded later with small local wireless segments , but again , given how " interactive " google 's support is , this wo n't work for regular users.Interesting experiment , not holding my breath though * sigh *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But for everyone else, it'd be difficult - "If your Google High Speed Home Connection is down, please email us and we will get back to you in 2 to 5 business days"?
:)Seriously, this probably would work out better for small compact communities with lots of users.
Except I bet those are either in exclusive contracts already (apartment complexes, universities that provide their own network, etc), or are too far from nearby Google node with no easy way to plug them in.Getting permit to run a new fiber to individual home is very expensive.
So for homeowners with existing homes (versus communities being built out) this is also probably not realistic.Perhaps this could be expanded later with small local wireless segments, but again, given how "interactive" google's support is, this won't work for regular users.Interesting experiment, not holding my breath though *sigh*</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088834</id>
	<title>Already got 'Fibre to the home' with Telus</title>
	<author>KPexEA</author>
	<datestamp>1265053080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's great, blazing fast. Not available in all of Telus's areas yet but works great here in Anmore.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's great , blazing fast .
Not available in all of Telus 's areas yet but works great here in Anmore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's great, blazing fast.
Not available in all of Telus's areas yet but works great here in Anmore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087832</id>
	<title>Re:more competition</title>
	<author>Woldscum</author>
	<datestamp>1265049180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Build it and they will come.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Build it and they will come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Build it and they will come.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087672</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31093766</id>
	<title>Re:Mark Shuttleworth</title>
	<author>mibus</author>
	<datestamp>1265033400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>People often forget too that downloading at that speed is dependant on hard disk throughput</p></div></blockquote><p>Only if you're intending to save it to disk. Streaming multiple HD video streams (one for you, one or two for your kids) etc. etc. will use gobs of bandwidth with zero disk activity - and is only going to get larger (3D, 4K-resolution, etc).</p><p>Granted, you'd still have plenty of room left over in your gigabit, but I'm sure we'll find something useful to use it for. (Astronomers working from home?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People often forget too that downloading at that speed is dependant on hard disk throughputOnly if you 're intending to save it to disk .
Streaming multiple HD video streams ( one for you , one or two for your kids ) etc .
etc. will use gobs of bandwidth with zero disk activity - and is only going to get larger ( 3D , 4K-resolution , etc ) .Granted , you 'd still have plenty of room left over in your gigabit , but I 'm sure we 'll find something useful to use it for .
( Astronomers working from home ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People often forget too that downloading at that speed is dependant on hard disk throughputOnly if you're intending to save it to disk.
Streaming multiple HD video streams (one for you, one or two for your kids) etc.
etc. will use gobs of bandwidth with zero disk activity - and is only going to get larger (3D, 4K-resolution, etc).Granted, you'd still have plenty of room left over in your gigabit, but I'm sure we'll find something useful to use it for.
(Astronomers working from home?
:)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090410</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088380</id>
	<title>Re:No article, just a blog post</title>
	<author>icebraining</author>
	<datestamp>1265051460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I had 20 megabit downstream service for a while, and the only way to come remotely close to saturating it was bittorrent. And I never did saturate it. I managed to sustain over 10 megabit only twice, ever, and that was hard to do and didn't last. Even most streaming video sites transmit at no more than 300 KB/s (2.4 megabit), and many, if not most, transmit slower than that.</p></div></blockquote><p>So what? You don't use more than one app at the same time? I like being able to use bittorrent, <i>plus</i> download files (over HTTP), <i>plus</i> listening to Internet radio, at the same time. And now I've setup a Tor node.</p><p>Really, there's plenty of ways to exhaust your connection. But yeah, most people won't take advantage of it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had 20 megabit downstream service for a while , and the only way to come remotely close to saturating it was bittorrent .
And I never did saturate it .
I managed to sustain over 10 megabit only twice , ever , and that was hard to do and did n't last .
Even most streaming video sites transmit at no more than 300 KB/s ( 2.4 megabit ) , and many , if not most , transmit slower than that.So what ?
You do n't use more than one app at the same time ?
I like being able to use bittorrent , plus download files ( over HTTP ) , plus listening to Internet radio , at the same time .
And now I 've setup a Tor node.Really , there 's plenty of ways to exhaust your connection .
But yeah , most people wo n't take advantage of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had 20 megabit downstream service for a while, and the only way to come remotely close to saturating it was bittorrent.
And I never did saturate it.
I managed to sustain over 10 megabit only twice, ever, and that was hard to do and didn't last.
Even most streaming video sites transmit at no more than 300 KB/s (2.4 megabit), and many, if not most, transmit slower than that.So what?
You don't use more than one app at the same time?
I like being able to use bittorrent, plus download files (over HTTP), plus listening to Internet radio, at the same time.
And now I've setup a Tor node.Really, there's plenty of ways to exhaust your connection.
But yeah, most people won't take advantage of it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088118</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089406</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>Fnkmaster</author>
	<datestamp>1265055240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't have any objection to a successful company generating lots of cash wanting to expand into new markets.  But to try to expand in so many directions at the same time seems to risk completely losing their focus and the special factors that made them successful in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have any objection to a successful company generating lots of cash wanting to expand into new markets .
But to try to expand in so many directions at the same time seems to risk completely losing their focus and the special factors that made them successful in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have any objection to a successful company generating lots of cash wanting to expand into new markets.
But to try to expand in so many directions at the same time seems to risk completely losing their focus and the special factors that made them successful in the first place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31092636</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>Bill\_the\_Engineer</author>
	<datestamp>1265027700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Like bank robbers, Google is just going where the money is. Don't fool yourself into thinking they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like bank robbers , Google is just going where the money is .
Do n't fool yourself into thinking they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like bank robbers, Google is just going where the money is.
Don't fool yourself into thinking they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089998</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088332</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>nschubach</author>
	<datestamp>1265051280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They don't do video game consoles, keyboards, mice, or portable media players... *cough*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't do video game consoles , keyboards , mice , or portable media players... * cough *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't do video game consoles, keyboards, mice, or portable media players... *cough*</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088480</id>
	<title>Re:Yes.</title>
	<author>newell98</author>
	<datestamp>1265051820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>They use sheep to mow their grass on campus. Close enough?</htmltext>
<tokenext>They use sheep to mow their grass on campus .
Close enough ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They use sheep to mow their grass on campus.
Close enough?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088686</id>
	<title>Re:more competition</title>
	<author>pluther</author>
	<datestamp>1265052660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My guess is they have no idea what the price will be before they start experimenting with how the service will work, how people will use it, and how much people will be willing to pay to get away from Comcast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is they have no idea what the price will be before they start experimenting with how the service will work , how people will use it , and how much people will be willing to pay to get away from Comcast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is they have no idea what the price will be before they start experimenting with how the service will work, how people will use it, and how much people will be willing to pay to get away from Comcast.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088552</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090146</id>
	<title>Re:Here is what is going to happen.</title>
	<author>Tubal-Cain</author>
	<datestamp>1265015940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...it's probably <em>also</em> true that they're just trying to upset this market because the established cable companies are a threat to their other businesses, both because of their slowness to raise the bandwidth bar and because of their marriages to legacy content distribution.</p></div><p>Not to mention the threats against Net Neutrality.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...it 's probably also true that they 're just trying to upset this market because the established cable companies are a threat to their other businesses , both because of their slowness to raise the bandwidth bar and because of their marriages to legacy content distribution.Not to mention the threats against Net Neutrality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...it's probably also true that they're just trying to upset this market because the established cable companies are a threat to their other businesses, both because of their slowness to raise the bandwidth bar and because of their marriages to legacy content distribution.Not to mention the threats against Net Neutrality.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088788</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090308</id>
	<title>Re:more competition</title>
	<author>GrumblyStuff</author>
	<datestamp>1265016900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if they haven't worked out the details (as repeated more than a few times in replies to your comment), it would be nice if they'd come out and say something that makes Comcast exes shit themselves.</p><p>"Double the speed, half the price, and restrictions (download cap, etc.), if any, are shown up front."</p><p>Fuck competitive.  Knock some socks off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if they have n't worked out the details ( as repeated more than a few times in replies to your comment ) , it would be nice if they 'd come out and say something that makes Comcast exes shit themselves .
" Double the speed , half the price , and restrictions ( download cap , etc .
) , if any , are shown up front .
" Fuck competitive .
Knock some socks off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if they haven't worked out the details (as repeated more than a few times in replies to your comment), it would be nice if they'd come out and say something that makes Comcast exes shit themselves.
"Double the speed, half the price, and restrictions (download cap, etc.
), if any, are shown up front.
"Fuck competitive.
Knock some socks off.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088552</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31091934</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265023620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Google seems willing and ready to tap any market that is dominated by dick-wads that have gotten too comfortable charging too much for too little.</p><p>I hope they create a cell phone carrier soon, too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Google seems willing and ready to tap any market that is dominated by dick-wads that have gotten too comfortable charging too much for too little.I hope they create a cell phone carrier soon , too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Google seems willing and ready to tap any market that is dominated by dick-wads that have gotten too comfortable charging too much for too little.I hope they create a cell phone carrier soon, too!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089998</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089190</id>
	<title>6 years and another 1G</title>
	<author>justkeeper</author>
	<datestamp>1265054400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reminds me of Gmail all over again, Google seems determined to increase the industry standard again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of Gmail all over again , Google seems determined to increase the industry standard again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of Gmail all over again, Google seems determined to increase the industry standard again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088272</id>
	<title>Re:Community Organization?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265051040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where's a community organizer when you need one???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's a community organizer when you need one ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's a community organizer when you need one??
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087770</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090294</id>
	<title>I Bet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265016780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the U.S. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxKkZVfQZuA" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Criminals-In-Congress</a> [youtube.com] will get plenty of cash for their offshore bank accounts from the movie, television, ISP, and cable lobbies to stop Google.</p><p>And people think China is EVIL.</p><p>Yours In Perm,<br>Kilgore Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the U.S. Criminals-In-Congress [ youtube.com ] will get plenty of cash for their offshore bank accounts from the movie , television , ISP , and cable lobbies to stop Google.And people think China is EVIL.Yours In Perm,Kilgore Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the U.S. Criminals-In-Congress [youtube.com] will get plenty of cash for their offshore bank accounts from the movie, television, ISP, and cable lobbies to stop Google.And people think China is EVIL.Yours In Perm,Kilgore Trout</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31092766</id>
	<title>Re:Oh no...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265028480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they give me reliable gigabit internet for the same price as my current ISP, they can install cameras in my bedroom for all I care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they give me reliable gigabit internet for the same price as my current ISP , they can install cameras in my bedroom for all I care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they give me reliable gigabit internet for the same price as my current ISP, they can install cameras in my bedroom for all I care.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087742</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089910</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't matter right now</title>
	<author>csartanis</author>
	<datestamp>1265057700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your point is?  Nobody needs to load content from one website at 20mbit.  If you want to max your connection, learn what a torrent is and download yourself some legal content.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your point is ?
Nobody needs to load content from one website at 20mbit .
If you want to max your connection , learn what a torrent is and download yourself some legal content .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your point is?
Nobody needs to load content from one website at 20mbit.
If you want to max your connection, learn what a torrent is and download yourself some legal content.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088780</id>
	<title>What the fuck Google....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I keep trying to fill in "Why should Google build a fiber to the home network where you live?"<br>but I keep getting this bullshit response:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; "* Ensure this value has at most 1000 characters."<br><br>It seems the same morons who run youtube's comment handling also maintain that submission forum<br>because I checked in OpenOffice and the text has only 840 characters in it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep trying to fill in " Why should Google build a fiber to the home network where you live ?
" but I keep getting this bullshit response :         " * Ensure this value has at most 1000 characters .
" It seems the same morons who run youtube 's comment handling also maintain that submission forumbecause I checked in OpenOffice and the text has only 840 characters in it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep trying to fill in "Why should Google build a fiber to the home network where you live?
"but I keep getting this bullshit response:
        "* Ensure this value has at most 1000 characters.
"It seems the same morons who run youtube's comment handling also maintain that submission forumbecause I checked in OpenOffice and the text has only 840 characters in it!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088134</id>
	<title>IPv6?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265050440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm guessing this is going to be IPv6 to the home?  Any confirmation?</p><p>When you build a network that fast the use-to-idle time drops very low.  What is the cost of operating the links when idle?  Maybe at a certain speed it makes more sense to go with a low-bandwidth carrier and invoke (turn on) high-bandwidth when needed?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing this is going to be IPv6 to the home ?
Any confirmation ? When you build a network that fast the use-to-idle time drops very low .
What is the cost of operating the links when idle ?
Maybe at a certain speed it makes more sense to go with a low-bandwidth carrier and invoke ( turn on ) high-bandwidth when needed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing this is going to be IPv6 to the home?
Any confirmation?When you build a network that fast the use-to-idle time drops very low.
What is the cost of operating the links when idle?
Maybe at a certain speed it makes more sense to go with a low-bandwidth carrier and invoke (turn on) high-bandwidth when needed?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31092910</id>
	<title>Note to Google: Infrastructure sucks</title>
	<author>Zorlon</author>
	<datestamp>1265029200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having worked at UUNET/Worldcom I can tell you that building and maintaining infrastructure is a pain. What is Google going to do when a backhoe digs into their fiber feeder? I predict it will be 'beta' for a while and then dropped quietly.</p><p>How about customer service? Where is the 800 number? Oh I am just 'Labs' experiment? Sorry for bothering you. What is the name of that guy in the video, can I call him?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having worked at UUNET/Worldcom I can tell you that building and maintaining infrastructure is a pain .
What is Google going to do when a backhoe digs into their fiber feeder ?
I predict it will be 'beta ' for a while and then dropped quietly.How about customer service ?
Where is the 800 number ?
Oh I am just 'Labs ' experiment ?
Sorry for bothering you .
What is the name of that guy in the video , can I call him ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having worked at UUNET/Worldcom I can tell you that building and maintaining infrastructure is a pain.
What is Google going to do when a backhoe digs into their fiber feeder?
I predict it will be 'beta' for a while and then dropped quietly.How about customer service?
Where is the 800 number?
Oh I am just 'Labs' experiment?
Sorry for bothering you.
What is the name of that guy in the video, can I call him?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088802</id>
	<title>Re:I'm shocked</title>
	<author>GenP</author>
	<datestamp>1265052960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They just assumed Google would be passively data-mining Layer 7 like crazy and intended to keep a secondary connection for...<i>sensitive</i>...traffic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They just assumed Google would be passively data-mining Layer 7 like crazy and intended to keep a secondary connection for...sensitive...traffic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They just assumed Google would be passively data-mining Layer 7 like crazy and intended to keep a secondary connection for...sensitive...traffic.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089776</id>
	<title>Re:Community Organization?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265056920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shhh! More for the rest of us if he doesn't find out about that. Downmod parent for the sake of the rest of us!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shhh !
More for the rest of us if he does n't find out about that .
Downmod parent for the sake of the rest of us !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shhh!
More for the rest of us if he doesn't find out about that.
Downmod parent for the sake of the rest of us!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087814</id>
	<title>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google's\_hoaxes</title>
	<author>eparker05</author>
	<datestamp>1265049120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google's\_hoaxes#Google\_TiSP" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google's\_hoaxes#Google\_TiSP</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google 's \ _hoaxes # Google \ _TiSP [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google's\_hoaxes#Google\_TiSP [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087722</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31092254</id>
	<title>Re:More advertising dollars</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265025000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And that would be the first product that actually suits my needs for entertainment. God forbid the consumers get what they want / pay for! Perfect sense indeed<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And that would be the first product that actually suits my needs for entertainment .
God forbid the consumers get what they want / pay for !
Perfect sense indeed : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that would be the first product that actually suits my needs for entertainment.
God forbid the consumers get what they want / pay for!
Perfect sense indeed :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088752</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31095358</id>
	<title>When DSL came to our neighborhood</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1265043000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The salesperson who brought us DSL got a little party in her honor.
</p><p>Same thing happened with cable internet.  We were so happy to fire Ma Bell.
</p><p>First company to bring gigabit fiber to this door gets a party too.  I would rather have Google's fiber than Verizon's - Google's got no motivation to drive up real services like multiple IP addresses or perform filtering or capping.  I could see going with Google for the triple play of video, voice and data - and we're paying a lot for that.  Comcast hasn't been awful compared to QWest, but that bar was not high.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The salesperson who brought us DSL got a little party in her honor .
Same thing happened with cable internet .
We were so happy to fire Ma Bell .
First company to bring gigabit fiber to this door gets a party too .
I would rather have Google 's fiber than Verizon 's - Google 's got no motivation to drive up real services like multiple IP addresses or perform filtering or capping .
I could see going with Google for the triple play of video , voice and data - and we 're paying a lot for that .
Comcast has n't been awful compared to QWest , but that bar was not high .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The salesperson who brought us DSL got a little party in her honor.
Same thing happened with cable internet.
We were so happy to fire Ma Bell.
First company to bring gigabit fiber to this door gets a party too.
I would rather have Google's fiber than Verizon's - Google's got no motivation to drive up real services like multiple IP addresses or perform filtering or capping.
I could see going with Google for the triple play of video, voice and data - and we're paying a lot for that.
Comcast hasn't been awful compared to QWest, but that bar was not high.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089718</id>
	<title>Re:Here is what is going to happen.</title>
	<author>dbcad7</author>
	<datestamp>1265056680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fiber is already being built and available to some.. AT&amp;T and Verizon both offer it. It is a long slow process of expansion. Regardless of how smart or nice Google is, I highly doubt they can implement anything any faster.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fiber is already being built and available to some.. AT&amp;T and Verizon both offer it .
It is a long slow process of expansion .
Regardless of how smart or nice Google is , I highly doubt they can implement anything any faster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fiber is already being built and available to some.. AT&amp;T and Verizon both offer it.
It is a long slow process of expansion.
Regardless of how smart or nice Google is, I highly doubt they can implement anything any faster.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088078</id>
	<title>Re:I'm shocked</title>
	<author>Archangel Michael</author>
	<datestamp>1265050200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the downside<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... goatse at fiber speeds eewwwwww.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the downside .... goatse at fiber speeds eewwwwww .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the downside .... goatse at fiber speeds eewwwwww.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088552</id>
	<title>Re:more competition</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1265052180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>We plan to offer service at a competitive price </i></p><p>That's fairly meaningless marketspeak. Why are they afraid of telling us exactly what that "competetive" price is, and competetive to what? We don't have fiber, competetive to DSL? Cable? Dialup?</p><p>Damn it Google, stop trying to join the corporatti and be like you used to be -- not evil. Marketspeak is lies, and Satan is the father of lies. Don't be evil. What's it cost to tell us what your service costs??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We plan to offer service at a competitive price That 's fairly meaningless marketspeak .
Why are they afraid of telling us exactly what that " competetive " price is , and competetive to what ?
We do n't have fiber , competetive to DSL ?
Cable ? Dialup ? Damn it Google , stop trying to join the corporatti and be like you used to be -- not evil .
Marketspeak is lies , and Satan is the father of lies .
Do n't be evil .
What 's it cost to tell us what your service costs ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We plan to offer service at a competitive price That's fairly meaningless marketspeak.
Why are they afraid of telling us exactly what that "competetive" price is, and competetive to what?
We don't have fiber, competetive to DSL?
Cable? Dialup?Damn it Google, stop trying to join the corporatti and be like you used to be -- not evil.
Marketspeak is lies, and Satan is the father of lies.
Don't be evil.
What's it cost to tell us what your service costs?
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087672</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088926</id>
	<title>I already have gigabit internet</title>
	<author>thue</author>
	<datestamp>1265053380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I already have 1Gb/1Gb internet to the home, practically without a traffic limitation (I could have over a terabyte per month, and nobody would care).</p><p>It is boring<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(. If everybody else on the internet has a slow connection, then you can hardly ever download/upload with more than 50Mbit. What is the point of 1000Mb/s, when Valve Steam won't download with more than 10Mbit/s? The last time I needed more speed was when I tried an internet speed test (result: 250Mb/200Mb, 2ms ping).</p><p>So my connection is really not much more useful than a 50Mb/50Mb connection<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(. Except to show off with internet speed tests<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:).</p><p>Did I mention that I pay $10 per month for it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I already have 1Gb/1Gb internet to the home , practically without a traffic limitation ( I could have over a terabyte per month , and nobody would care ) .It is boring : ( .
If everybody else on the internet has a slow connection , then you can hardly ever download/upload with more than 50Mbit .
What is the point of 1000Mb/s , when Valve Steam wo n't download with more than 10Mbit/s ?
The last time I needed more speed was when I tried an internet speed test ( result : 250Mb/200Mb , 2ms ping ) .So my connection is really not much more useful than a 50Mb/50Mb connection : ( .
Except to show off with internet speed tests : ) .Did I mention that I pay $ 10 per month for it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I already have 1Gb/1Gb internet to the home, practically without a traffic limitation (I could have over a terabyte per month, and nobody would care).It is boring :(.
If everybody else on the internet has a slow connection, then you can hardly ever download/upload with more than 50Mbit.
What is the point of 1000Mb/s, when Valve Steam won't download with more than 10Mbit/s?
The last time I needed more speed was when I tried an internet speed test (result: 250Mb/200Mb, 2ms ping).So my connection is really not much more useful than a 50Mb/50Mb connection :(.
Except to show off with internet speed tests :).Did I mention that I pay $10 per month for it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088370</id>
	<title>Re:Ooh...ooh, pick me!</title>
	<author>Nimey</author>
	<datestamp>1265051460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My small (8500 people) hometown in southwestern Missouri was going to have something like that as well - I believe it was called an Acorn televillage.</p><p>The developer only built one house before it went bust, and the house was never occupied.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My small ( 8500 people ) hometown in southwestern Missouri was going to have something like that as well - I believe it was called an Acorn televillage.The developer only built one house before it went bust , and the house was never occupied .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My small (8500 people) hometown in southwestern Missouri was going to have something like that as well - I believe it was called an Acorn televillage.The developer only built one house before it went bust, and the house was never occupied.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088160</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087938</id>
	<title>Re:Community Organization?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265049660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I entered "Obama", and I immediately received an email welcoming my house in the trial.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I entered " Obama " , and I immediately received an email welcoming my house in the trial .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I entered "Obama", and I immediately received an email welcoming my house in the trial.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087770</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089478</id>
	<title>Coming Home to Roost</title>
	<author>thebian</author>
	<datestamp>1265055600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A moral lesson for the deregulated.</p><p>I'll bet there were a lot of smug phone company executives who thought at the time of the breakup of old Ma Bell that there will never be anyone willing to lay down enough wire to seriously challenge them.</p><p>Then they got cable TV and wireless phones, but a lot of the data moving business is still in the hands of the Baby Bells.</p><p>This ought to cut them down a notch.</p><p>But then we'll need a new search engine. I won't search where my bandwidth comes from!</p><p>I'm sure your ISP is recording every move you make, and Google is recording half the stuff that moves on the web. A Google ISP brings the two together and will be a privacy nightmare.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A moral lesson for the deregulated.I 'll bet there were a lot of smug phone company executives who thought at the time of the breakup of old Ma Bell that there will never be anyone willing to lay down enough wire to seriously challenge them.Then they got cable TV and wireless phones , but a lot of the data moving business is still in the hands of the Baby Bells.This ought to cut them down a notch.But then we 'll need a new search engine .
I wo n't search where my bandwidth comes from ! I 'm sure your ISP is recording every move you make , and Google is recording half the stuff that moves on the web .
A Google ISP brings the two together and will be a privacy nightmare .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A moral lesson for the deregulated.I'll bet there were a lot of smug phone company executives who thought at the time of the breakup of old Ma Bell that there will never be anyone willing to lay down enough wire to seriously challenge them.Then they got cable TV and wireless phones, but a lot of the data moving business is still in the hands of the Baby Bells.This ought to cut them down a notch.But then we'll need a new search engine.
I won't search where my bandwidth comes from!I'm sure your ISP is recording every move you make, and Google is recording half the stuff that moves on the web.
A Google ISP brings the two together and will be a privacy nightmare.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087924</id>
	<title>Time to upgrade the home network?</title>
	<author>shawnmchorse</author>
	<datestamp>1265049540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Almost everything inside my house is still running at 100Mbps (or less, over 802.11g/n wireless bridges).  And even then, my router still melts if I actually let BitTorrent run full out.  I sense a lot of upgrades needed before I could even come close to taking full advantage of a 1Gbps line.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Almost everything inside my house is still running at 100Mbps ( or less , over 802.11g/n wireless bridges ) .
And even then , my router still melts if I actually let BitTorrent run full out .
I sense a lot of upgrades needed before I could even come close to taking full advantage of a 1Gbps line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Almost everything inside my house is still running at 100Mbps (or less, over 802.11g/n wireless bridges).
And even then, my router still melts if I actually let BitTorrent run full out.
I sense a lot of upgrades needed before I could even come close to taking full advantage of a 1Gbps line.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31091800</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1265023020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Seriously, is there any market Google is not going into?</p></div><p>Porn.</p><p>But I'm totally waiting for that.</p><p>Just think of the possibilities: a web-based library that automagically extracts keywords from raw video streams and lets you search over them.</p><p>Oh, and it shows you contextual ads, too. "Would you like that nice shampoo for your doggie for just $5.95?". Hmm...</p><p>Or how about "private amateur" section composed from Picasa albums which people forgot to make private?</p><p>Don't even get me started on how you could integrate collaborative writing of slashfic in Google Wave!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , is there any market Google is not going into ? Porn.But I 'm totally waiting for that.Just think of the possibilities : a web-based library that automagically extracts keywords from raw video streams and lets you search over them.Oh , and it shows you contextual ads , too .
" Would you like that nice shampoo for your doggie for just $ 5.95 ? " .
Hmm...Or how about " private amateur " section composed from Picasa albums which people forgot to make private ? Do n't even get me started on how you could integrate collaborative writing of slashfic in Google Wave !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, is there any market Google is not going into?Porn.But I'm totally waiting for that.Just think of the possibilities: a web-based library that automagically extracts keywords from raw video streams and lets you search over them.Oh, and it shows you contextual ads, too.
"Would you like that nice shampoo for your doggie for just $5.95?".
Hmm...Or how about "private amateur" section composed from Picasa albums which people forgot to make private?Don't even get me started on how you could integrate collaborative writing of slashfic in Google Wave!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089240</id>
	<title>Re:I'm shocked</title>
	<author>tool462</author>
	<datestamp>1265054580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1Gbps connection would be overkill, as there is another bottleneck in terms of porn consumption.</p><p>Let's just say my pipe would be saturated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1Gbps connection would be overkill , as there is another bottleneck in terms of porn consumption.Let 's just say my pipe would be saturated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1Gbps connection would be overkill, as there is another bottleneck in terms of porn consumption.Let's just say my pipe would be saturated.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089208</id>
	<title>Re:more competition</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265054460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They say 50K connections, potentially up to 500K.  No competitor will pay attention to such small numbers, especially as they are certain to skim the cream of cheaply connectable homes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They say 50K connections , potentially up to 500K .
No competitor will pay attention to such small numbers , especially as they are certain to skim the cream of cheaply connectable homes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They say 50K connections, potentially up to 500K.
No competitor will pay attention to such small numbers, especially as they are certain to skim the cream of cheaply connectable homes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087672</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088254</id>
	<title>For the love of all that is good...</title>
	<author>Taibhsear</author>
	<datestamp>1265050980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in the world, please compete with Comcast and the other monopoly ISPs. The speeds in Chicago finally got upgraded a bit but the throttling, bandwidth caps, and retarded pricing shenanigans still have to go. Comcast is still one of the leaders in customer service douchebaggery so any competition is greatly appreciated. (RCN and Verizon FIOS are the only thing even close, speed wise, but they have never been available in any of the areas I have ever lived in in Chicago.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in the world , please compete with Comcast and the other monopoly ISPs .
The speeds in Chicago finally got upgraded a bit but the throttling , bandwidth caps , and retarded pricing shenanigans still have to go .
Comcast is still one of the leaders in customer service douchebaggery so any competition is greatly appreciated .
( RCN and Verizon FIOS are the only thing even close , speed wise , but they have never been available in any of the areas I have ever lived in in Chicago .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in the world, please compete with Comcast and the other monopoly ISPs.
The speeds in Chicago finally got upgraded a bit but the throttling, bandwidth caps, and retarded pricing shenanigans still have to go.
Comcast is still one of the leaders in customer service douchebaggery so any competition is greatly appreciated.
(RCN and Verizon FIOS are the only thing even close, speed wise, but they have never been available in any of the areas I have ever lived in in Chicago.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088766</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't matter right now</title>
	<author>ls671</author>
	<datestamp>1265052840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; The goal isn't just to give ultra fast speed for some lucky ones, but to test under that conditions things like new generations of apps, and deployment techniques that take advantage of it.</p><p>So if you are connected to Google network, I assume that you will get close to the maximum speed while using Google applications. So, they will able to test "new generations of apps, and deployment techniques that take advantage of it."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; The goal is n't just to give ultra fast speed for some lucky ones , but to test under that conditions things like new generations of apps , and deployment techniques that take advantage of it.So if you are connected to Google network , I assume that you will get close to the maximum speed while using Google applications .
So , they will able to test " new generations of apps , and deployment techniques that take advantage of it .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; The goal isn't just to give ultra fast speed for some lucky ones, but to test under that conditions things like new generations of apps, and deployment techniques that take advantage of it.So if you are connected to Google network, I assume that you will get close to the maximum speed while using Google applications.
So, they will able to test "new generations of apps, and deployment techniques that take advantage of it.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31094476</id>
	<title>Re:Ooh...ooh, pick me!</title>
	<author>corerunner</author>
	<datestamp>1265036580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've lived in Blacksburg since 2002, and I was just talking about BEV to a friend (VT alum) who moved away a year ago and saw this Google blog post today.  In my current house, which is close enough to walk downtown, I still can't get DSL.  Fortunately Comcast 8Mb is just barely good enough for my purposes, but I don't make heavy use of torrents or anything like that.</p><p>At least I only pay $30/mo, and I still get to stream my favorite shows to my TV, although the quality isn't close to digital cable.  I doubt this will improve in the foreseeable future though.  We aren't getting FIOS and I'll be surprised when I can get better service for less than double the cost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've lived in Blacksburg since 2002 , and I was just talking about BEV to a friend ( VT alum ) who moved away a year ago and saw this Google blog post today .
In my current house , which is close enough to walk downtown , I still ca n't get DSL .
Fortunately Comcast 8Mb is just barely good enough for my purposes , but I do n't make heavy use of torrents or anything like that.At least I only pay $ 30/mo , and I still get to stream my favorite shows to my TV , although the quality is n't close to digital cable .
I doubt this will improve in the foreseeable future though .
We are n't getting FIOS and I 'll be surprised when I can get better service for less than double the cost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've lived in Blacksburg since 2002, and I was just talking about BEV to a friend (VT alum) who moved away a year ago and saw this Google blog post today.
In my current house, which is close enough to walk downtown, I still can't get DSL.
Fortunately Comcast 8Mb is just barely good enough for my purposes, but I don't make heavy use of torrents or anything like that.At least I only pay $30/mo, and I still get to stream my favorite shows to my TV, although the quality isn't close to digital cable.
I doubt this will improve in the foreseeable future though.
We aren't getting FIOS and I'll be surprised when I can get better service for less than double the cost.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088586</id>
	<title>I, for one, ...</title>
	<author>castironpigeon</author>
	<datestamp>1265052300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...welcome our new all content, all service providing do-no-evil overlords.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...welcome our new all content , all service providing do-no-evil overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...welcome our new all content, all service providing do-no-evil overlords.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088752</id>
	<title>More advertising dollars</title>
	<author>cjjjer</author>
	<datestamp>1265052780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can see it now Google wants to put a settop box (GoogleTV??) in every house, running the latest ChromeOS it can then stream content and ads to you while you browse the internet and watch TV media and read Print media from your TV.<br> <br>Makes perfect sense.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can see it now Google wants to put a settop box ( GoogleTV ? ?
) in every house , running the latest ChromeOS it can then stream content and ads to you while you browse the internet and watch TV media and read Print media from your TV .
Makes perfect sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can see it now Google wants to put a settop box (GoogleTV??
) in every house, running the latest ChromeOS it can then stream content and ads to you while you browse the internet and watch TV media and read Print media from your TV.
Makes perfect sense.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</id>
	<title>Google</title>
	<author>russlar</author>
	<datestamp>1265048700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, is there any market Google is <b>not</b> going into?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , is there any market Google is not going into ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, is there any market Google is not going into?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31091154</id>
	<title>Google Already Has Some Stuff...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265020680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For instance, in my Networking class last week, we did a traceroute to Youtube.com.</p><p>It never touched any ISP or true "internet" network, we connected straight from a router owned by my Uni to Google's IP and proceeded down their network to Youtube.com.</p><p>I guess this is extending the fiber from "connected to gigantic 100 MBit University networks" to "connected to individual homes" though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For instance , in my Networking class last week , we did a traceroute to Youtube.com.It never touched any ISP or true " internet " network , we connected straight from a router owned by my Uni to Google 's IP and proceeded down their network to Youtube.com.I guess this is extending the fiber from " connected to gigantic 100 MBit University networks " to " connected to individual homes " though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For instance, in my Networking class last week, we did a traceroute to Youtube.com.It never touched any ISP or true "internet" network, we connected straight from a router owned by my Uni to Google's IP and proceeded down their network to Youtube.com.I guess this is extending the fiber from "connected to gigantic 100 MBit University networks" to "connected to individual homes" though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090446</id>
	<title>US Govt. Fiber?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265017740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember reading somewhere that there was a fiasco a decade or more ago involving the US government promising to provide fiber-optic connections to everyone's home.  Is this apocryphal?  I can't seem to find any references to it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember reading somewhere that there was a fiasco a decade or more ago involving the US government promising to provide fiber-optic connections to everyone 's home .
Is this apocryphal ?
I ca n't seem to find any references to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember reading somewhere that there was a fiasco a decade or more ago involving the US government promising to provide fiber-optic connections to everyone's home.
Is this apocryphal?
I can't seem to find any references to it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088186</id>
	<title>Re:Yes.</title>
	<author>Tumbleweed</author>
	<datestamp>1265050680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Ostrich farming.</i></p><p>Never underestimate the bandwidth of an ostrich carrying a pack of SSDs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ostrich farming.Never underestimate the bandwidth of an ostrich carrying a pack of SSDs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ostrich farming.Never underestimate the bandwidth of an ostrich carrying a pack of SSDs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31093708</id>
	<title>Laundry</title>
	<author>pgn674</author>
	<datestamp>1265033160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFA:<p><div class="quote"><p>Next generation apps: We want to see what developers and users can do with ultra high-speeds, whether it's creating new bandwidth-intensive "killer apps" and services, or other uses we can't yet imagine.</p></div><p>How about <a href="http://idle.slashdot.org/story/08/03/31/131235/Worlds-Fastest-Net-Link-Used-To-Dry-Laundry" title="slashdot.org">drying laundry</a> [slashdot.org]?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : Next generation apps : We want to see what developers and users can do with ultra high-speeds , whether it 's creating new bandwidth-intensive " killer apps " and services , or other uses we ca n't yet imagine.How about drying laundry [ slashdot.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:Next generation apps: We want to see what developers and users can do with ultra high-speeds, whether it's creating new bandwidth-intensive "killer apps" and services, or other uses we can't yet imagine.How about drying laundry [slashdot.org]?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088160</id>
	<title>Ooh...ooh, pick me!</title>
	<author>Overzeetop</author>
	<datestamp>1265050560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously. Blacksburg, Virginia (home of Virginia Tech) was supposed to have 10bT to every home back in the 90s - the Blacksburg Electronic Village they called it. You would think we'd be sitting pretty for even higher speed by now. It never materialized.  We've got Verizon (copper only, 3Mb max speed) or Comcast (formerly Adelphia, ~7Mb max speed, when the moon is full). There are a few other minor players, but they are either geared towards the large apartment complexes or businesses (and make Verizon look inexpensive). Heck, I'm close enough in that my power is from Virginia Tech electric.</p><p>I don't need huge total volume, I just want blisteringly fast for shortish periods.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously .
Blacksburg , Virginia ( home of Virginia Tech ) was supposed to have 10bT to every home back in the 90s - the Blacksburg Electronic Village they called it .
You would think we 'd be sitting pretty for even higher speed by now .
It never materialized .
We 've got Verizon ( copper only , 3Mb max speed ) or Comcast ( formerly Adelphia , ~ 7Mb max speed , when the moon is full ) .
There are a few other minor players , but they are either geared towards the large apartment complexes or businesses ( and make Verizon look inexpensive ) .
Heck , I 'm close enough in that my power is from Virginia Tech electric.I do n't need huge total volume , I just want blisteringly fast for shortish periods .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.
Blacksburg, Virginia (home of Virginia Tech) was supposed to have 10bT to every home back in the 90s - the Blacksburg Electronic Village they called it.
You would think we'd be sitting pretty for even higher speed by now.
It never materialized.
We've got Verizon (copper only, 3Mb max speed) or Comcast (formerly Adelphia, ~7Mb max speed, when the moon is full).
There are a few other minor players, but they are either geared towards the large apartment complexes or businesses (and make Verizon look inexpensive).
Heck, I'm close enough in that my power is from Virginia Tech electric.I don't need huge total volume, I just want blisteringly fast for shortish periods.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31142982</id>
	<title>Re:No article, just a blog post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266241260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mr.  Areyoukiddingme,</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I have installed and managed numerous data center hosted operations - Global Crossing, Sprint, Exodus, Federal/State governments.  Not one of them EVER had any sort of artificial end user restrictions.  Why would we<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. we knew that the bottlenecks were going to be at YOUR puny end, not mine - We ran Linux, BSD or Solaris and everyone of those had tuneable TCP stacks and we tuned them.<br>You ( or most of you ) ran Windows 9x or XP or Windows 2000 and by default you were extremely inefficient over wans.</p><p>That is why we picked enterprise data centers - was so we could make use of their massive bandwidth when needed but not build it out ourselves.</p><p>My current data centers enjoy 20 Gb of L3 [10 x 10Gb] connectivity and soon will have ANOTHER 20 Gb via L2/L3 and our utilization does not come close ( see "Long Fat Network" )<br>This was known close to 20 years ago - http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/249025/files/CM-P00065735.pdf<br>Windows computers up until Vista or Server 2008 were still very poor high bandwidth end devices especially with 10 hops or more.</p><p>But thank you for thinking we in the data center networking / application deployment don't know what we are doing.   We do. And have been doing it for quite some time now, thank you,</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mr. Areyoukiddingme ,         I have installed and managed numerous data center hosted operations - Global Crossing , Sprint , Exodus , Federal/State governments .
Not one of them EVER had any sort of artificial end user restrictions .
Why would we .. we knew that the bottlenecks were going to be at YOUR puny end , not mine - We ran Linux , BSD or Solaris and everyone of those had tuneable TCP stacks and we tuned them.You ( or most of you ) ran Windows 9x or XP or Windows 2000 and by default you were extremely inefficient over wans.That is why we picked enterprise data centers - was so we could make use of their massive bandwidth when needed but not build it out ourselves.My current data centers enjoy 20 Gb of L3 [ 10 x 10Gb ] connectivity and soon will have ANOTHER 20 Gb via L2/L3 and our utilization does not come close ( see " Long Fat Network " ) This was known close to 20 years ago - http : //cdsweb.cern.ch/record/249025/files/CM-P00065735.pdfWindows computers up until Vista or Server 2008 were still very poor high bandwidth end devices especially with 10 hops or more.But thank you for thinking we in the data center networking / application deployment do n't know what we are doing .
We do .
And have been doing it for quite some time now , thank you,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mr.  Areyoukiddingme,
        I have installed and managed numerous data center hosted operations - Global Crossing, Sprint, Exodus, Federal/State governments.
Not one of them EVER had any sort of artificial end user restrictions.
Why would we .. we knew that the bottlenecks were going to be at YOUR puny end, not mine - We ran Linux, BSD or Solaris and everyone of those had tuneable TCP stacks and we tuned them.You ( or most of you ) ran Windows 9x or XP or Windows 2000 and by default you were extremely inefficient over wans.That is why we picked enterprise data centers - was so we could make use of their massive bandwidth when needed but not build it out ourselves.My current data centers enjoy 20 Gb of L3 [10 x 10Gb] connectivity and soon will have ANOTHER 20 Gb via L2/L3 and our utilization does not come close ( see "Long Fat Network" )This was known close to 20 years ago - http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/249025/files/CM-P00065735.pdfWindows computers up until Vista or Server 2008 were still very poor high bandwidth end devices especially with 10 hops or more.But thank you for thinking we in the data center networking / application deployment don't know what we are doing.
We do.
And have been doing it for quite some time now, thank you,</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088808</id>
	<title>Re:Ooh...ooh, pick me!</title>
	<author>Bicx</author>
	<datestamp>1265052960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't need huge total volume, I just want blisteringly fast for shortish periods.</p></div><p>
I don't normally stoop this low, but I have a cold today, so.... That's what she said!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't need huge total volume , I just want blisteringly fast for shortish periods .
I do n't normally stoop this low , but I have a cold today , so.... That 's what she said !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't need huge total volume, I just want blisteringly fast for shortish periods.
I don't normally stoop this low, but I have a cold today, so.... That's what she said!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088796</id>
	<title>Re:Ooh...ooh, pick me!</title>
	<author>micromoog</author>
	<datestamp>1265052960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>I don't need huge total volume, I just want blisteringly fast for shortish periods.</i> </p><p>In other words, porn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't need huge total volume , I just want blisteringly fast for shortish periods .
In other words , porn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I don't need huge total volume, I just want blisteringly fast for shortish periods.
In other words, porn.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088538</id>
	<title>Just don't make us sign in with a Gmail account</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>fuck them if they're only willing to do this to track more of our activity online.</p><p>thanks to them if not...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>fuck them if they 're only willing to do this to track more of our activity online.thanks to them if not.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fuck them if they're only willing to do this to track more of our activity online.thanks to them if not...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31131028</id>
	<title>Target smaller cities</title>
	<author>chrisgeleven</author>
	<datestamp>1266065580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope Google uses this as a chance to get small cities with fiber connections instead of targeting large cities like Seattle. Cities that may not get a chance to upgrade to fiber in the next 20 years due to sheer stupidity by their local phone or cable company. For these areas, the second Google announces they maybe in the running, these companies will work incredibly hard to get their networks up to speed to compete.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope Google uses this as a chance to get small cities with fiber connections instead of targeting large cities like Seattle .
Cities that may not get a chance to upgrade to fiber in the next 20 years due to sheer stupidity by their local phone or cable company .
For these areas , the second Google announces they maybe in the running , these companies will work incredibly hard to get their networks up to speed to compete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope Google uses this as a chance to get small cities with fiber connections instead of targeting large cities like Seattle.
Cities that may not get a chance to upgrade to fiber in the next 20 years due to sheer stupidity by their local phone or cable company.
For these areas, the second Google announces they maybe in the running, these companies will work incredibly hard to get their networks up to speed to compete.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088228</id>
	<title>Re:Time to upgrade the home network?</title>
	<author>Tumbleweed</author>
	<datestamp>1265050860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I sense a lot of upgrades needed before I could even come close to taking full advantage of a 1Gbps line.</i></p><p>That's called 'incentivizing'.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I sense a lot of upgrades needed before I could even come close to taking full advantage of a 1Gbps line.That 's called 'incentivizing' .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I sense a lot of upgrades needed before I could even come close to taking full advantage of a 1Gbps line.That's called 'incentivizing'.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088270</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't matter right now</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265051040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>1Mb? As in 128 KB/s? I get better download speeds on my *phone*. I have 10Mbit DSL and absolutely no problem maxing it out on a single site (1.25MB/s).
<br> <br>
If you're really getting 1Mbit on a 20Mbit line, your ISP sucks horribly and/or is a bunch of lying liars.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1Mb ?
As in 128 KB/s ?
I get better download speeds on my * phone * .
I have 10Mbit DSL and absolutely no problem maxing it out on a single site ( 1.25MB/s ) .
If you 're really getting 1Mbit on a 20Mbit line , your ISP sucks horribly and/or is a bunch of lying liars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1Mb?
As in 128 KB/s?
I get better download speeds on my *phone*.
I have 10Mbit DSL and absolutely no problem maxing it out on a single site (1.25MB/s).
If you're really getting 1Mbit on a 20Mbit line, your ISP sucks horribly and/or is a bunch of lying liars.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090620</id>
	<title>Its about time</title>
	<author>pyaolyangshen</author>
	<datestamp>1265018460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They own a friggin satellite, they Own so much space of the intranet, I'm not surprised they'd out the other big companies who sell tiny gateways to individual consumers - We could have easilly had faster connection but these companies tend to restrict how much. The intranet is incomparably VAST!!!!! So hell yeah, why wouldn't Google want a piece of that market, and They will totally kill the competition with their generous connection plans. HAH.  - and thanks lucian.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They own a friggin satellite , they Own so much space of the intranet , I 'm not surprised they 'd out the other big companies who sell tiny gateways to individual consumers - We could have easilly had faster connection but these companies tend to restrict how much .
The intranet is incomparably VAST ! ! ! ! !
So hell yeah , why would n't Google want a piece of that market , and They will totally kill the competition with their generous connection plans .
HAH. - and thanks lucian .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They own a friggin satellite, they Own so much space of the intranet, I'm not surprised they'd out the other big companies who sell tiny gateways to individual consumers - We could have easilly had faster connection but these companies tend to restrict how much.
The intranet is incomparably VAST!!!!!
So hell yeah, why wouldn't Google want a piece of that market, and They will totally kill the competition with their generous connection plans.
HAH.  - and thanks lucian.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31107096</id>
	<title>What Apps for this?</title>
	<author>gibson123</author>
	<datestamp>1265891400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is really great, I'm hoping they use my area in CA to test.  More importantly, I wonder what Google has up it's sleaves in terms of apps for all this bandwith beyond the obvious of video etc....Here is another article:
<a href="http://www.cio.com/article/538314/Google\_to\_Launch\_Super\_Fast\_Gigabit\_Networks" title="cio.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cio.com/article/538314/Google\_to\_Launch\_Super\_Fast\_Gigabit\_Networks</a> [cio.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is really great , I 'm hoping they use my area in CA to test .
More importantly , I wonder what Google has up it 's sleaves in terms of apps for all this bandwith beyond the obvious of video etc....Here is another article : http : //www.cio.com/article/538314/Google \ _to \ _Launch \ _Super \ _Fast \ _Gigabit \ _Networks [ cio.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is really great, I'm hoping they use my area in CA to test.
More importantly, I wonder what Google has up it's sleaves in terms of apps for all this bandwith beyond the obvious of video etc....Here is another article:
http://www.cio.com/article/538314/Google\_to\_Launch\_Super\_Fast\_Gigabit\_Networks [cio.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089246</id>
	<title>Seattle</title>
	<author>city</author>
	<datestamp>1265054580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I officially declare QuADBI (Queen Anne Denizens for Better Internet Access) open to any who would like to join my organization to bring better internet access to our neighborhood of Seattle, WA. I filled out my form referencing QuADBI and invite you all to do the same... hell, do it even if you don't live in Seattle. I assure you that we are an organization that will not stop until we have Fiber to every home, unless I get distracted by a shiny object. But seriously if you live here, join me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I officially declare QuADBI ( Queen Anne Denizens for Better Internet Access ) open to any who would like to join my organization to bring better internet access to our neighborhood of Seattle , WA .
I filled out my form referencing QuADBI and invite you all to do the same... hell , do it even if you do n't live in Seattle .
I assure you that we are an organization that will not stop until we have Fiber to every home , unless I get distracted by a shiny object .
But seriously if you live here , join me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I officially declare QuADBI (Queen Anne Denizens for Better Internet Access) open to any who would like to join my organization to bring better internet access to our neighborhood of Seattle, WA.
I filled out my form referencing QuADBI and invite you all to do the same... hell, do it even if you don't live in Seattle.
I assure you that we are an organization that will not stop until we have Fiber to every home, unless I get distracted by a shiny object.
But seriously if you live here, join me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087770</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089062</id>
	<title>I hope this works</title>
	<author>cyberzephyr</author>
	<datestamp>1265053800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really hope this works, we have been getting mugged by the powers that be (i.e. companies that hold control of those lines) for far too long.  Lower prices are a good incentive to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hope this works , we have been getting mugged by the powers that be ( i.e .
companies that hold control of those lines ) for far too long .
Lower prices are a good incentive to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hope this works, we have been getting mugged by the powers that be (i.e.
companies that hold control of those lines) for far too long.
Lower prices are a good incentive to me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31093574</id>
	<title>Re:more competition</title>
	<author>haruchai</author>
	<datestamp>1265032680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sometimes a change is as good as a bargain. I would rather sweat blood than go back to being a Bell or Rogers customer<br>ever again but my current provider ( a Bell reseller ) doesn't have the clout to force Bell to upgrade the crappy copper in<br>the neighbourhood and we all have to swallow their traffic shaping.</p><p>Give me a third party with their own infrastructure, better support, and fewer restrictions and I'm willing to pay more for just to give them the finger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sometimes a change is as good as a bargain .
I would rather sweat blood than go back to being a Bell or Rogers customerever again but my current provider ( a Bell reseller ) does n't have the clout to force Bell to upgrade the crappy copper inthe neighbourhood and we all have to swallow their traffic shaping.Give me a third party with their own infrastructure , better support , and fewer restrictions and I 'm willing to pay more for just to give them the finger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sometimes a change is as good as a bargain.
I would rather sweat blood than go back to being a Bell or Rogers customerever again but my current provider ( a Bell reseller ) doesn't have the clout to force Bell to upgrade the crappy copper inthe neighbourhood and we all have to swallow their traffic shaping.Give me a third party with their own infrastructure, better support, and fewer restrictions and I'm willing to pay more for just to give them the finger.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090972</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31091940</id>
	<title>Home server?</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1265023680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But is it fast enough and stable  to handle the bandwidth load for my own web service I want to host out of my house?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But is it fast enough and stable to handle the bandwidth load for my own web service I want to host out of my house ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But is it fast enough and stable  to handle the bandwidth load for my own web service I want to host out of my house?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087824</id>
	<title>Wow!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265049120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Awesome, then maybe you Americans can start catching up with the rest of the world<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) Funny, 10, or even maybe only 5 years ago, I would had been very impressed by just hearing 1 Gbit. Nowadays, eh. Sure, I only have 100/100 Mbit, but I have no restrictions whatsoever (and I use my fair share) and I pay $10. I could go for the 1 Gbit package, but why pay 5 times as much ($50) per month for something I don't see myself needing. Maybe in a year or so<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Awesome , then maybe you Americans can start catching up with the rest of the world : ) Funny , 10 , or even maybe only 5 years ago , I would had been very impressed by just hearing 1 Gbit .
Nowadays , eh .
Sure , I only have 100/100 Mbit , but I have no restrictions whatsoever ( and I use my fair share ) and I pay $ 10 .
I could go for the 1 Gbit package , but why pay 5 times as much ( $ 50 ) per month for something I do n't see myself needing .
Maybe in a year or so : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Awesome, then maybe you Americans can start catching up with the rest of the world :) Funny, 10, or even maybe only 5 years ago, I would had been very impressed by just hearing 1 Gbit.
Nowadays, eh.
Sure, I only have 100/100 Mbit, but I have no restrictions whatsoever (and I use my fair share) and I pay $10.
I could go for the 1 Gbit package, but why pay 5 times as much ($50) per month for something I don't see myself needing.
Maybe in a year or so :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088620</id>
	<title>Is today fiber day or something?</title>
	<author>rickb928</author>
	<datestamp>1265052360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I get <a href="http://www.gwi.net/About\_GWI/news.php" title="gwi.net">this post</a> [gwi.net] from a friend of mine in Maine.  Looks like our government is sporting over some recovery funds and one of Maine's more aggresive ISPs is gonna spend it making fiber around the rural areas of Maine.</p><p>And he better hurry, or Google will beat him to it! Oh, wait... Google will be looking for density and volume users.  Where volume is spelled with dollar signs.</p><p>Now, are other states also going to start pulling fiber to add to the existing dark fiber, so we can continue to be ready to serve rural America?</p><p>Not that anyone will actually get service out in the woods with any of this fiber, though GWI in Maine deploys long-range DSL and does at least as well as the cable companies.  Maybe better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get this post [ gwi.net ] from a friend of mine in Maine .
Looks like our government is sporting over some recovery funds and one of Maine 's more aggresive ISPs is gon na spend it making fiber around the rural areas of Maine.And he better hurry , or Google will beat him to it !
Oh , wait... Google will be looking for density and volume users .
Where volume is spelled with dollar signs.Now , are other states also going to start pulling fiber to add to the existing dark fiber , so we can continue to be ready to serve rural America ? Not that anyone will actually get service out in the woods with any of this fiber , though GWI in Maine deploys long-range DSL and does at least as well as the cable companies .
Maybe better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get this post [gwi.net] from a friend of mine in Maine.
Looks like our government is sporting over some recovery funds and one of Maine's more aggresive ISPs is gonna spend it making fiber around the rural areas of Maine.And he better hurry, or Google will beat him to it!
Oh, wait... Google will be looking for density and volume users.
Where volume is spelled with dollar signs.Now, are other states also going to start pulling fiber to add to the existing dark fiber, so we can continue to be ready to serve rural America?Not that anyone will actually get service out in the woods with any of this fiber, though GWI in Maine deploys long-range DSL and does at least as well as the cable companies.
Maybe better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31104938</id>
	<title>Re:Here is what is going to happen.</title>
	<author>cthulhu11</author>
	<datestamp>1265883120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I the only one who suspects that this is aimed at improving service for Google *employees*?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who suspects that this is aimed at improving service for Google * employees * ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who suspects that this is aimed at improving service for Google *employees*?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088788</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087834</id>
	<title>Re:Old news</title>
	<author>Firemouth</author>
	<datestamp>1265049180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had this.  I don't recommend it as it was pretty shitty.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had this .
I do n't recommend it as it was pretty shitty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had this.
I don't recommend it as it was pretty shitty.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087722</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090424</id>
	<title>Re:Time to upgrade the home network?</title>
	<author>drachenstern</author>
	<datestamp>1265017620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When cars barely went 20mph, and horses were still king of the road, no layman really foresaw high speed intercity highways being an absolute public necessity. On top of that, very few expected huge oval tracks where tens of thousands of fans would turn out to watch 40 men drive around in circles for 4 hours.</p><p>When most of the people in the country lived on the Eastern seaboard, most of the population didn't see a NEED to settle the Western territories (except for that whole "be your own lord" thing...) but they knew it was important to stake out the largest stake they could.</p><p>I'll stake out the largest plot I can and prepare for something that I can't see, but that I know will be important in the future.</p><p>Also, distributed games.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When cars barely went 20mph , and horses were still king of the road , no layman really foresaw high speed intercity highways being an absolute public necessity .
On top of that , very few expected huge oval tracks where tens of thousands of fans would turn out to watch 40 men drive around in circles for 4 hours.When most of the people in the country lived on the Eastern seaboard , most of the population did n't see a NEED to settle the Western territories ( except for that whole " be your own lord " thing... ) but they knew it was important to stake out the largest stake they could.I 'll stake out the largest plot I can and prepare for something that I ca n't see , but that I know will be important in the future.Also , distributed games .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When cars barely went 20mph, and horses were still king of the road, no layman really foresaw high speed intercity highways being an absolute public necessity.
On top of that, very few expected huge oval tracks where tens of thousands of fans would turn out to watch 40 men drive around in circles for 4 hours.When most of the people in the country lived on the Eastern seaboard, most of the population didn't see a NEED to settle the Western territories (except for that whole "be your own lord" thing...) but they knew it was important to stake out the largest stake they could.I'll stake out the largest plot I can and prepare for something that I can't see, but that I know will be important in the future.Also, distributed games.
:D</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088554</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31159660</id>
	<title>Cheapest for Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266312420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google needs to buy bandwidth because most of their bandwidth is *uploading* from their servers to clients. Now, most of traffic for end-consumers is *downloading* from some servers to their computers. Once Google can balances download/upload from their network to about 0, they can start to negotiate "free access" to other networks.</p><p>To reiterate, a cheapest network for Google means equal upload to download ratio of 1. Uploads are what costs $$$ and downloads result in net pay for ISPs. This is why consumer ISPs don't like torrents but generally don't have a problem with HTTP site downloads (unless you download SOO much you start to impact their other clients)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google needs to buy bandwidth because most of their bandwidth is * uploading * from their servers to clients .
Now , most of traffic for end-consumers is * downloading * from some servers to their computers .
Once Google can balances download/upload from their network to about 0 , they can start to negotiate " free access " to other networks.To reiterate , a cheapest network for Google means equal upload to download ratio of 1 .
Uploads are what costs $ $ $ and downloads result in net pay for ISPs .
This is why consumer ISPs do n't like torrents but generally do n't have a problem with HTTP site downloads ( unless you download SOO much you start to impact their other clients )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google needs to buy bandwidth because most of their bandwidth is *uploading* from their servers to clients.
Now, most of traffic for end-consumers is *downloading* from some servers to their computers.
Once Google can balances download/upload from their network to about 0, they can start to negotiate "free access" to other networks.To reiterate, a cheapest network for Google means equal upload to download ratio of 1.
Uploads are what costs $$$ and downloads result in net pay for ISPs.
This is why consumer ISPs don't like torrents but generally don't have a problem with HTTP site downloads (unless you download SOO much you start to impact their other clients)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088552</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31099736</id>
	<title>This has happened before...Blacksburg, VA</title>
	<author>WyrdOne</author>
	<datestamp>1265904660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Back in the misty reaches of antiquity (at least in net terms) of 1993, there was a collaboration between Virginia Tech, City of Blacksburg and Verizon. What resulted was something called "Blacksburg Electronic Villiage".</p><p>They wired the entire town with fiber, and residents could get a 100mbps Ethernet connection to a Internet connected municipal network.</p><p>Made frontpage news on Wired and other computer related publications of the time (remember this was at the dawn of the internet and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.com boom) as the "Most connected town in america" and even made it into Guiness world record as such in 1998.</p><p>However, project mismanagement and cost overruns by Verizon caused the project to fold in early 2001. A local ISP has taken over portions of the network once maintained by the project and continues to provide 100mbps ethernet services to some of the community.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksburg\_Electronic\_Village" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksburg\_Electronic\_Village</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Back in the misty reaches of antiquity ( at least in net terms ) of 1993 , there was a collaboration between Virginia Tech , City of Blacksburg and Verizon .
What resulted was something called " Blacksburg Electronic Villiage " .They wired the entire town with fiber , and residents could get a 100mbps Ethernet connection to a Internet connected municipal network.Made frontpage news on Wired and other computer related publications of the time ( remember this was at the dawn of the internet and .com boom ) as the " Most connected town in america " and even made it into Guiness world record as such in 1998.However , project mismanagement and cost overruns by Verizon caused the project to fold in early 2001 .
A local ISP has taken over portions of the network once maintained by the project and continues to provide 100mbps ethernet services to some of the community.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksburg \ _Electronic \ _Village [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back in the misty reaches of antiquity (at least in net terms) of 1993, there was a collaboration between Virginia Tech, City of Blacksburg and Verizon.
What resulted was something called "Blacksburg Electronic Villiage".They wired the entire town with fiber, and residents could get a 100mbps Ethernet connection to a Internet connected municipal network.Made frontpage news on Wired and other computer related publications of the time (remember this was at the dawn of the internet and .com boom) as the "Most connected town in america" and even made it into Guiness world record as such in 1998.However, project mismanagement and cost overruns by Verizon caused the project to fold in early 2001.
A local ISP has taken over portions of the network once maintained by the project and continues to provide 100mbps ethernet services to some of the community.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksburg\_Electronic\_Village [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090410</id>
	<title>Mark Shuttleworth</title>
	<author>RichM</author>
	<datestamp>1265017560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apparently Mark Shuttleworth has a 1Gbit connection to his home or thereabouts.<br>
People often forget too that downloading at that speed is dependant on hard disk throughput. You'll struggle to get above 50MB/sec which is about 400MBit a sec.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently Mark Shuttleworth has a 1Gbit connection to his home or thereabouts .
People often forget too that downloading at that speed is dependant on hard disk throughput .
You 'll struggle to get above 50MB/sec which is about 400MBit a sec .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently Mark Shuttleworth has a 1Gbit connection to his home or thereabouts.
People often forget too that downloading at that speed is dependant on hard disk throughput.
You'll struggle to get above 50MB/sec which is about 400MBit a sec.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088922</id>
	<title>Re:No article, just a blog post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265053380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Worse, most internet hosts throttle or load balance their outbound throughput to any one destination.  I had 20 megabit downstream service for a while, and the only way to come remotely close to saturating it was bittorrent.  And I never did saturate it.  I managed to sustain over 10 megabit only twice, ever, and that was hard to do and didn't last.  Even most streaming video sites transmit at no more than 300 KB/s (2.4 megabit), and many, if not most, transmit slower than that.</p></div><p>I'd imagine that's because the typical Windows box isn't set up for high TCP throughput on latent connections, which pretty much any internet connection will be since the speed of light is limiting.  And even if you do modify your window size or use things like SACKs you can only set up for a best case or worst case scenario.  Since each connection is different it's not really feasible to modify and reboot to gain the maximum throughput you're alotted.  You cannot blame that on transport network, only the end points.</p><p>With the growing acceptance of Win7 and a TCP stack that autotunes it's window size it will be possible to realize better use of high capacity connections without the user having to fiddle around in their registry every time they establish a new connection.</p><p>And make no mistake:  Google is not out to sell this to some guy running Linux who can hack up his own TCP implementation.  There's no market in that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Worse , most internet hosts throttle or load balance their outbound throughput to any one destination .
I had 20 megabit downstream service for a while , and the only way to come remotely close to saturating it was bittorrent .
And I never did saturate it .
I managed to sustain over 10 megabit only twice , ever , and that was hard to do and did n't last .
Even most streaming video sites transmit at no more than 300 KB/s ( 2.4 megabit ) , and many , if not most , transmit slower than that.I 'd imagine that 's because the typical Windows box is n't set up for high TCP throughput on latent connections , which pretty much any internet connection will be since the speed of light is limiting .
And even if you do modify your window size or use things like SACKs you can only set up for a best case or worst case scenario .
Since each connection is different it 's not really feasible to modify and reboot to gain the maximum throughput you 're alotted .
You can not blame that on transport network , only the end points.With the growing acceptance of Win7 and a TCP stack that autotunes it 's window size it will be possible to realize better use of high capacity connections without the user having to fiddle around in their registry every time they establish a new connection.And make no mistake : Google is not out to sell this to some guy running Linux who can hack up his own TCP implementation .
There 's no market in that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worse, most internet hosts throttle or load balance their outbound throughput to any one destination.
I had 20 megabit downstream service for a while, and the only way to come remotely close to saturating it was bittorrent.
And I never did saturate it.
I managed to sustain over 10 megabit only twice, ever, and that was hard to do and didn't last.
Even most streaming video sites transmit at no more than 300 KB/s (2.4 megabit), and many, if not most, transmit slower than that.I'd imagine that's because the typical Windows box isn't set up for high TCP throughput on latent connections, which pretty much any internet connection will be since the speed of light is limiting.
And even if you do modify your window size or use things like SACKs you can only set up for a best case or worst case scenario.
Since each connection is different it's not really feasible to modify and reboot to gain the maximum throughput you're alotted.
You cannot blame that on transport network, only the end points.With the growing acceptance of Win7 and a TCP stack that autotunes it's window size it will be possible to realize better use of high capacity connections without the user having to fiddle around in their registry every time they establish a new connection.And make no mistake:  Google is not out to sell this to some guy running Linux who can hack up his own TCP implementation.
There's no market in that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088118</id>
	<title>No article, just a blog post</title>
	<author>Areyoukiddingme</author>
	<datestamp>1265050380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google really understands Slashdot.  Everything pertinent in the blog post fits just fine in the summary.  No need to read the "article."  It isn't an article.  It's just a blog post soliciting proposals.</p><p>Seems an odd way to go about it.  It's missing the one thing that is relevant to market demand: price.  I don't know whether my community would care to be part of it because I don't know how much it would cost the users.  I know for a fact that people are only willing to pay so much for high bandwidth, and past that, they decide it's not worth the cost.</p><p>Worse, most internet hosts throttle or load balance their outbound throughput to any one destination.  I had 20 megabit downstream service for a while, and the only way to come remotely close to saturating it was bittorrent.  And I never did saturate it.  I managed to sustain over 10 megabit only twice, ever, and that was hard to do and didn't last.  Even most streaming video sites transmit at no more than 300 KB/s (2.4 megabit), and many, if not most, transmit slower than that.</p><p>Sounds to me like the whole thing is going to be a disappointment to them.  Truly high bandwidth demands will only emerge when truly high bandwidth (1 gigabit) is widely deployed and widely subscribed to, and when major servers move from truly high bandwidth to absurdly high bandwidth (10 gigabit through to the backbone).  All of their scenarios can be satisfied by deploying fiber to just a few premises, like hospitals and clinics, which is a big dumb duh idea anyway.  It's not already done?  The nebulous "let's see what happens" goal they have depends on lots of people having access to lots of bandwidth.  Network effects have to kick in before a network is valuable.  Build it and they will come, but there's no way to predict what they'll actually use it for.  It will take large numbers of bored programmers fiddling around with their high bandwidth to generate something to use all that bandwidth, and they won't bother if 90\% of their potential audience has 1/1000th of the bandwidth.</p><p>In short, it's the network, stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google really understands Slashdot .
Everything pertinent in the blog post fits just fine in the summary .
No need to read the " article .
" It is n't an article .
It 's just a blog post soliciting proposals.Seems an odd way to go about it .
It 's missing the one thing that is relevant to market demand : price .
I do n't know whether my community would care to be part of it because I do n't know how much it would cost the users .
I know for a fact that people are only willing to pay so much for high bandwidth , and past that , they decide it 's not worth the cost.Worse , most internet hosts throttle or load balance their outbound throughput to any one destination .
I had 20 megabit downstream service for a while , and the only way to come remotely close to saturating it was bittorrent .
And I never did saturate it .
I managed to sustain over 10 megabit only twice , ever , and that was hard to do and did n't last .
Even most streaming video sites transmit at no more than 300 KB/s ( 2.4 megabit ) , and many , if not most , transmit slower than that.Sounds to me like the whole thing is going to be a disappointment to them .
Truly high bandwidth demands will only emerge when truly high bandwidth ( 1 gigabit ) is widely deployed and widely subscribed to , and when major servers move from truly high bandwidth to absurdly high bandwidth ( 10 gigabit through to the backbone ) .
All of their scenarios can be satisfied by deploying fiber to just a few premises , like hospitals and clinics , which is a big dumb duh idea anyway .
It 's not already done ?
The nebulous " let 's see what happens " goal they have depends on lots of people having access to lots of bandwidth .
Network effects have to kick in before a network is valuable .
Build it and they will come , but there 's no way to predict what they 'll actually use it for .
It will take large numbers of bored programmers fiddling around with their high bandwidth to generate something to use all that bandwidth , and they wo n't bother if 90 \ % of their potential audience has 1/1000th of the bandwidth.In short , it 's the network , stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google really understands Slashdot.
Everything pertinent in the blog post fits just fine in the summary.
No need to read the "article.
"  It isn't an article.
It's just a blog post soliciting proposals.Seems an odd way to go about it.
It's missing the one thing that is relevant to market demand: price.
I don't know whether my community would care to be part of it because I don't know how much it would cost the users.
I know for a fact that people are only willing to pay so much for high bandwidth, and past that, they decide it's not worth the cost.Worse, most internet hosts throttle or load balance their outbound throughput to any one destination.
I had 20 megabit downstream service for a while, and the only way to come remotely close to saturating it was bittorrent.
And I never did saturate it.
I managed to sustain over 10 megabit only twice, ever, and that was hard to do and didn't last.
Even most streaming video sites transmit at no more than 300 KB/s (2.4 megabit), and many, if not most, transmit slower than that.Sounds to me like the whole thing is going to be a disappointment to them.
Truly high bandwidth demands will only emerge when truly high bandwidth (1 gigabit) is widely deployed and widely subscribed to, and when major servers move from truly high bandwidth to absurdly high bandwidth (10 gigabit through to the backbone).
All of their scenarios can be satisfied by deploying fiber to just a few premises, like hospitals and clinics, which is a big dumb duh idea anyway.
It's not already done?
The nebulous "let's see what happens" goal they have depends on lots of people having access to lots of bandwidth.
Network effects have to kick in before a network is valuable.
Build it and they will come, but there's no way to predict what they'll actually use it for.
It will take large numbers of bored programmers fiddling around with their high bandwidth to generate something to use all that bandwidth, and they won't bother if 90\% of their potential audience has 1/1000th of the bandwidth.In short, it's the network, stupid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090526</id>
	<title>What Google will be like as an ISP</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1265018160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Google as an ISP:

</p><ul>
<li>
Users will get a branded browser with all Google's junk in it.</li>
<li>
Everything you do will be recorded for ad targeting purposes.</li>
<li>
You have to use Google's DNS.</li>
<li>
Users get Gmail accounts that put ads in every message.</li>
<li>
Only content from Google's servers is delivered at full data rate.</li>
<li>
No, you can't run a server.</li>
<li>
Only Google's VoIP service works.</li>
<li>
Bing will run really slow.</li>
</ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google as an ISP : Users will get a branded browser with all Google 's junk in it .
Everything you do will be recorded for ad targeting purposes .
You have to use Google 's DNS .
Users get Gmail accounts that put ads in every message .
Only content from Google 's servers is delivered at full data rate .
No , you ca n't run a server .
Only Google 's VoIP service works .
Bing will run really slow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Google as an ISP:



Users will get a branded browser with all Google's junk in it.
Everything you do will be recorded for ad targeting purposes.
You have to use Google's DNS.
Users get Gmail accounts that put ads in every message.
Only content from Google's servers is delivered at full data rate.
No, you can't run a server.
Only Google's VoIP service works.
Bing will run really slow.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088932</id>
	<title>Re:No article, just a blog post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265053380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have to understand the way networking works to comprehend why a 20 megabit connection will never transfer data at 20 megabit. One of my professors explained to me that there is a lot of error and collisions and you never get the full transfer rate. There's a ratio that can be applied to any connection like that. My guess is that the ratio for fiber is probably a little better than copper, I guess we'll see. In the end it still has to pass through routers and travel long distances and eventually be dealt with by your LAN.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have to understand the way networking works to comprehend why a 20 megabit connection will never transfer data at 20 megabit .
One of my professors explained to me that there is a lot of error and collisions and you never get the full transfer rate .
There 's a ratio that can be applied to any connection like that .
My guess is that the ratio for fiber is probably a little better than copper , I guess we 'll see .
In the end it still has to pass through routers and travel long distances and eventually be dealt with by your LAN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have to understand the way networking works to comprehend why a 20 megabit connection will never transfer data at 20 megabit.
One of my professors explained to me that there is a lot of error and collisions and you never get the full transfer rate.
There's a ratio that can be applied to any connection like that.
My guess is that the ratio for fiber is probably a little better than copper, I guess we'll see.
In the end it still has to pass through routers and travel long distances and eventually be dealt with by your LAN.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088118</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090972</id>
	<title>Re:more competition</title>
	<author>0racle</author>
	<datestamp>1265019960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>'Competitive prices' often means 'Pretty much the same as everyone else in the area.' AT&amp;T and Verizon call their rates competitive, even though they're pretty much exactly the same in every market as one another.</htmltext>
<tokenext>'Competitive prices ' often means 'Pretty much the same as everyone else in the area .
' AT&amp;T and Verizon call their rates competitive , even though they 're pretty much exactly the same in every market as one another .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'Competitive prices' often means 'Pretty much the same as everyone else in the area.
' AT&amp;T and Verizon call their rates competitive, even though they're pretty much exactly the same in every market as one another.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087672</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089992</id>
	<title>Sweden</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265014920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live in a small town and have fiber into my home. 100/100 at 50 dollars / month.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) Just wanted to let you know that the rest of the world is already ahead of you!</p><p>On the other hand im suprised that google hasnt already entered the ISP playing field. Since their entire business model is based on people being connected to the internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in a small town and have fiber into my home .
100/100 at 50 dollars / month .
: ) Just wanted to let you know that the rest of the world is already ahead of you ! On the other hand im suprised that google hasnt already entered the ISP playing field .
Since their entire business model is based on people being connected to the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in a small town and have fiber into my home.
100/100 at 50 dollars / month.
:) Just wanted to let you know that the rest of the world is already ahead of you!On the other hand im suprised that google hasnt already entered the ISP playing field.
Since their entire business model is based on people being connected to the internet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31093398</id>
	<title>Re:For the love of all that is good...</title>
	<author>trip11</author>
	<datestamp>1265031660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm out west (Aurora), but I'm reasonably happy with AT&amp;T's dsl service.  I get 6.0 Mbps for $35/mo and I can substain pretty close to that all the time.  About 500-600KB/s average download speed every time I do something that maxes it out.  I've only had the service go out once (for 10 minutes) in the last 6 months, so I'm pretty happy with that too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm out west ( Aurora ) , but I 'm reasonably happy with AT&amp;T 's dsl service .
I get 6.0 Mbps for $ 35/mo and I can substain pretty close to that all the time .
About 500-600KB/s average download speed every time I do something that maxes it out .
I 've only had the service go out once ( for 10 minutes ) in the last 6 months , so I 'm pretty happy with that too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm out west (Aurora), but I'm reasonably happy with AT&amp;T's dsl service.
I get 6.0 Mbps for $35/mo and I can substain pretty close to that all the time.
About 500-600KB/s average download speed every time I do something that maxes it out.
I've only had the service go out once (for 10 minutes) in the last 6 months, so I'm pretty happy with that too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088254</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089490</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265055660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you've never heard of AppEngine and gRails have you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you 've never heard of AppEngine and gRails have you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you've never heard of AppEngine and gRails have you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089548</id>
	<title>Good for Google!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265055900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go, Google, go!<br>I hope you guys create a stable and profitable ISP very soon.<br>You have one trusty client in me right now. I really want all the ISPs in my part of the world to struggle to compete with you, after all these years of abuse and overpricing a bad service.</p><p>Google rocks! (I mean it)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go , Google , go ! I hope you guys create a stable and profitable ISP very soon.You have one trusty client in me right now .
I really want all the ISPs in my part of the world to struggle to compete with you , after all these years of abuse and overpricing a bad service.Google rocks !
( I mean it )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go, Google, go!I hope you guys create a stable and profitable ISP very soon.You have one trusty client in me right now.
I really want all the ISPs in my part of the world to struggle to compete with you, after all these years of abuse and overpricing a bad service.Google rocks!
(I mean it)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089364</id>
	<title>Re:Time to upgrade the home network?</title>
	<author>NuclearRampage</author>
	<datestamp>1265055120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's what <a href="http://www.smoothwall.org/" title="smoothwall.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.smoothwall.org/</a> [smoothwall.org] can fix.  Even with BT going over 1.3MB/s it doesn't slow a bit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what http : //www.smoothwall.org/ [ smoothwall.org ] can fix .
Even with BT going over 1.3MB/s it does n't slow a bit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what http://www.smoothwall.org/ [smoothwall.org] can fix.
Even with BT going over 1.3MB/s it doesn't slow a bit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087924</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31091888</id>
	<title>Re:Here is what is going to happen.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265023380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the video accompanying TFA it mentions that it's an open-access network (approx. 45 seconds in), meaning they will allow other companies to lease the same lines and provide the service themselves.  Based on that alone, I doubt an anti-trust action will go very far.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the video accompanying TFA it mentions that it 's an open-access network ( approx .
45 seconds in ) , meaning they will allow other companies to lease the same lines and provide the service themselves .
Based on that alone , I doubt an anti-trust action will go very far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the video accompanying TFA it mentions that it's an open-access network (approx.
45 seconds in), meaning they will allow other companies to lease the same lines and provide the service themselves.
Based on that alone, I doubt an anti-trust action will go very far.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088960</id>
	<title>Re:Ooh...ooh, pick me!</title>
	<author>Happy Nuclear Death</author>
	<datestamp>1265053440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hokie alum here.  Ack, sorry to hear that never worked out, but not that surprised.  I know I suffered with VT modem pool "service" in the very late '90's until 2001.</p><p>If it makes you feel any better, I now live in a huge city in the southwest US, but options are about what you describe: slow DSL or somewhat faster cable.  Actually you're better off than I am; my DSL options are 1.5 Mbit or nothing.  Pathetic.  Qwest is NEVER going to upgrade its infrastructure.  You can get faster ADSL - maybe as much as 7 Mbit - in a few parts of downtown, but that's pretty much it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hokie alum here .
Ack , sorry to hear that never worked out , but not that surprised .
I know I suffered with VT modem pool " service " in the very late '90 's until 2001.If it makes you feel any better , I now live in a huge city in the southwest US , but options are about what you describe : slow DSL or somewhat faster cable .
Actually you 're better off than I am ; my DSL options are 1.5 Mbit or nothing .
Pathetic. Qwest is NEVER going to upgrade its infrastructure .
You can get faster ADSL - maybe as much as 7 Mbit - in a few parts of downtown , but that 's pretty much it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hokie alum here.
Ack, sorry to hear that never worked out, but not that surprised.
I know I suffered with VT modem pool "service" in the very late '90's until 2001.If it makes you feel any better, I now live in a huge city in the southwest US, but options are about what you describe: slow DSL or somewhat faster cable.
Actually you're better off than I am; my DSL options are 1.5 Mbit or nothing.
Pathetic.  Qwest is NEVER going to upgrade its infrastructure.
You can get faster ADSL - maybe as much as 7 Mbit - in a few parts of downtown, but that's pretty much it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088160</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31096882</id>
	<title>Re:more competition</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265921460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The thing you actually want to be worried about is if their ToS will require you to agree that they can track all of your habits to build advertising metrics or some such thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The thing you actually want to be worried about is if their ToS will require you to agree that they can track all of your habits to build advertising metrics or some such thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The thing you actually want to be worried about is if their ToS will require you to agree that they can track all of your habits to build advertising metrics or some such thing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088552</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088554</id>
	<title>Re:Time to upgrade the home network?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Assuming you don't have tens or hundreds of nodes in your house, all you would need is to make sure your computers have gigabit ethernet cards and a router that can handle it- and if yours can't, then you might have to spend some dough upgrading to a soho router, not a big deal since gigabit nics have been standard for around 5 years now, if you have a machine older than that, gig-e cards sell for about $20 these days, and even if you don't want to do that, 100MB/s is still pretty farking fast. All in all, not a big deal really.</p><p>Soho routers are a pretty good idea IMHO anyway- my parents would constantly call me and ask me why the internet was down, and 9 times out of 10, it was because the router took a crap and needed to be rebooted. They renovated their house a few years back, running cat 5 to each room, and I set them up with a 3com small business router/switch, and they never call me about internet problems anymore.</p><p>To be honest, I am not even sure what I would do with 1G/s connection to my house. I would be constrained by the fact that no one else has 1G/s available for me to even use, and while pulling a dvd down in ~30 seconds would be nice, it just seems... unnecessary. I have 50Mbps now and rarely yearn for more speed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Assuming you do n't have tens or hundreds of nodes in your house , all you would need is to make sure your computers have gigabit ethernet cards and a router that can handle it- and if yours ca n't , then you might have to spend some dough upgrading to a soho router , not a big deal since gigabit nics have been standard for around 5 years now , if you have a machine older than that , gig-e cards sell for about $ 20 these days , and even if you do n't want to do that , 100MB/s is still pretty farking fast .
All in all , not a big deal really.Soho routers are a pretty good idea IMHO anyway- my parents would constantly call me and ask me why the internet was down , and 9 times out of 10 , it was because the router took a crap and needed to be rebooted .
They renovated their house a few years back , running cat 5 to each room , and I set them up with a 3com small business router/switch , and they never call me about internet problems anymore.To be honest , I am not even sure what I would do with 1G/s connection to my house .
I would be constrained by the fact that no one else has 1G/s available for me to even use , and while pulling a dvd down in ~ 30 seconds would be nice , it just seems... unnecessary. I have 50Mbps now and rarely yearn for more speed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assuming you don't have tens or hundreds of nodes in your house, all you would need is to make sure your computers have gigabit ethernet cards and a router that can handle it- and if yours can't, then you might have to spend some dough upgrading to a soho router, not a big deal since gigabit nics have been standard for around 5 years now, if you have a machine older than that, gig-e cards sell for about $20 these days, and even if you don't want to do that, 100MB/s is still pretty farking fast.
All in all, not a big deal really.Soho routers are a pretty good idea IMHO anyway- my parents would constantly call me and ask me why the internet was down, and 9 times out of 10, it was because the router took a crap and needed to be rebooted.
They renovated their house a few years back, running cat 5 to each room, and I set them up with a 3com small business router/switch, and they never call me about internet problems anymore.To be honest, I am not even sure what I would do with 1G/s connection to my house.
I would be constrained by the fact that no one else has 1G/s available for me to even use, and while pulling a dvd down in ~30 seconds would be nice, it just seems... unnecessary. I have 50Mbps now and rarely yearn for more speed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087924</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088372</id>
	<title>It would be nice</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1265051460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would be nice to see if they have some for Canada as well, I am looking forward also to them offering their successful venture once it is up and running to the public as a replacement to most disgruntled ISP clients that are tired of not having any choices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be nice to see if they have some for Canada as well , I am looking forward also to them offering their successful venture once it is up and running to the public as a replacement to most disgruntled ISP clients that are tired of not having any choices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be nice to see if they have some for Canada as well, I am looking forward also to them offering their successful venture once it is up and running to the public as a replacement to most disgruntled ISP clients that are tired of not having any choices.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31097388</id>
	<title>Bring it on</title>
	<author>jejones</author>
	<datestamp>1265884620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The cable companies and RBOCs are long overdue for competition. I'll switch in a heartbeat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The cable companies and RBOCs are long overdue for competition .
I 'll switch in a heartbeat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cable companies and RBOCs are long overdue for competition.
I'll switch in a heartbeat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087926</id>
	<title>I'm shocked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265049540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>23 comments about a 1 gigabit home connection, and not one of them has even mentioned the word "porn"?!? Man, you guys are slipping...</htmltext>
<tokenext>23 comments about a 1 gigabit home connection , and not one of them has even mentioned the word " porn " ? ! ?
Man , you guys are slipping.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>23 comments about a 1 gigabit home connection, and not one of them has even mentioned the word "porn"?!?
Man, you guys are slipping...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088140</id>
	<title>Re:Here is what is going to happen.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265050440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if you think Google is going to have 1gbps of bandwidth for everyone one of their users then you are deluding yourself</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if you think Google is going to have 1gbps of bandwidth for everyone one of their users then you are deluding yourself</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if you think Google is going to have 1gbps of bandwidth for everyone one of their users then you are deluding yourself</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087672</id>
	<title>more competition</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265048520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>this is great i hope its a huge success, comcast and time warner needs some competition to lower prices and get rid of stupid data caps. just wish i was available to more people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>this is great i hope its a huge success , comcast and time warner needs some competition to lower prices and get rid of stupid data caps .
just wish i was available to more people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this is great i hope its a huge success, comcast and time warner needs some competition to lower prices and get rid of stupid data caps.
just wish i was available to more people.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31095534</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>beatbox32</author>
	<datestamp>1265044200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All of your chatter about "willing and ready to tap" and "dominated" and "dick-wads" has certainly given us all a clue into what you'll be using the service for.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All of your chatter about " willing and ready to tap " and " dominated " and " dick-wads " has certainly given us all a clue into what you 'll be using the service for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of your chatter about "willing and ready to tap" and "dominated" and "dick-wads" has certainly given us all a clue into what you'll be using the service for.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089998</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089552</id>
	<title>Re:Here is what is going to happen.</title>
	<author>russlar</author>
	<datestamp>1265055960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The big names in networking (AT&amp;T, Charter, etc.) are going to sue Google on antitrust grounds because it is easier to hire lawyers than to upgrade failing and obsolete networks.</p></div><p>Maybe. Except that, if they base their anti-trust claim on the basis that Google would own both the content <b>and</b> the connection to that content, then Comcast's acquisition of NBC would also be subject to this same suit.<br> <br>I can't see Comcast suing itself.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The big names in networking ( AT&amp;T , Charter , etc .
) are going to sue Google on antitrust grounds because it is easier to hire lawyers than to upgrade failing and obsolete networks.Maybe .
Except that , if they base their anti-trust claim on the basis that Google would own both the content and the connection to that content , then Comcast 's acquisition of NBC would also be subject to this same suit .
I ca n't see Comcast suing itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The big names in networking (AT&amp;T, Charter, etc.
) are going to sue Google on antitrust grounds because it is easier to hire lawyers than to upgrade failing and obsolete networks.Maybe.
Except that, if they base their anti-trust claim on the basis that Google would own both the content and the connection to that content, then Comcast's acquisition of NBC would also be subject to this same suit.
I can't see Comcast suing itself.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088754</id>
	<title>Re:Ooh...ooh, pick me!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just put in a request for Blacksburg. I'm paying 60+ bucks a month for a 3 Mbps connection that I'm lucky if it maintains over 1 Mbps. I feel that at least if Comcast or Verizon fuck you in the ass they the courtesy of giving you a reach around with a decent connection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just put in a request for Blacksburg .
I 'm paying 60 + bucks a month for a 3 Mbps connection that I 'm lucky if it maintains over 1 Mbps .
I feel that at least if Comcast or Verizon fuck you in the ass they the courtesy of giving you a reach around with a decent connection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just put in a request for Blacksburg.
I'm paying 60+ bucks a month for a 3 Mbps connection that I'm lucky if it maintains over 1 Mbps.
I feel that at least if Comcast or Verizon fuck you in the ass they the courtesy of giving you a reach around with a decent connection.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088160</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088574</id>
	<title>Omaha needs some love</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1265052240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Omaha is right next door to your new data center in Council Bluffs, IA, and a telecommunications hub for the country. You know you want to roll out here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Omaha is right next door to your new data center in Council Bluffs , IA , and a telecommunications hub for the country .
You know you want to roll out here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Omaha is right next door to your new data center in Council Bluffs, IA, and a telecommunications hub for the country.
You know you want to roll out here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087856</id>
	<title>Yes.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265049240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ostrich farming.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ostrich farming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ostrich farming.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089668</id>
	<title>Re:What the fuck Google....</title>
	<author>drachenstern</author>
	<datestamp>1265056500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>bytecount... I had to open it in notepad++ to see that my 998 characters were being regarded as 1004 due to \n\r and it needed only \n throughout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>bytecount... I had to open it in notepad + + to see that my 998 characters were being regarded as 1004 due to \ n \ r and it needed only \ n throughout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bytecount... I had to open it in notepad++ to see that my 998 characters were being regarded as 1004 due to \n\r and it needed only \n throughout</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088780</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088708</id>
	<title>It's GNU/Linux!</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1265052720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And here it's NSA/Google to you mister..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And here it 's NSA/Google to you mister. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And here it's NSA/Google to you mister..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088104</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>ObsessiveMathsFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1265050320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Privacy protection; and ad-blocking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Privacy protection ; and ad-blocking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Privacy protection; and ad-blocking.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090602</id>
	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265018400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google hires talented engineers and doesn't try to crush them with middle-management bullshit. They will be able to outcompete any tech company in any market.</p><p>I have plenty of good ideas to improve my company. Where's my 20\% time to work on them? That's right, it doesn't exist. The only thing I should spend time on is what my boss's boss's boss has "visibility" of. My talents are wasted here at a "normal" technology company.</p><p>Also, we have way over-downsized, too. How can anyone innovate when we're putting out fires 24/7?</p><p>Google will rock the horribly-mismanaged tech industry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google hires talented engineers and does n't try to crush them with middle-management bullshit .
They will be able to outcompete any tech company in any market.I have plenty of good ideas to improve my company .
Where 's my 20 \ % time to work on them ?
That 's right , it does n't exist .
The only thing I should spend time on is what my boss 's boss 's boss has " visibility " of .
My talents are wasted here at a " normal " technology company.Also , we have way over-downsized , too .
How can anyone innovate when we 're putting out fires 24/7 ? Google will rock the horribly-mismanaged tech industry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google hires talented engineers and doesn't try to crush them with middle-management bullshit.
They will be able to outcompete any tech company in any market.I have plenty of good ideas to improve my company.
Where's my 20\% time to work on them?
That's right, it doesn't exist.
The only thing I should spend time on is what my boss's boss's boss has "visibility" of.
My talents are wasted here at a "normal" technology company.Also, we have way over-downsized, too.
How can anyone innovate when we're putting out fires 24/7?Google will rock the horribly-mismanaged tech industry.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088650</id>
	<title>Re:No article, just a blog post</title>
	<author>nns6561</author>
	<datestamp>1265052480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just because you can't use that much bandwidth doesn't mean the rest of us can't.  I've managed to hit 50 Mbs downloading when I had a real broadband connection.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just because you ca n't use that much bandwidth does n't mean the rest of us ca n't .
I 've managed to hit 50 Mbs downloading when I had a real broadband connection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just because you can't use that much bandwidth doesn't mean the rest of us can't.
I've managed to hit 50 Mbs downloading when I had a real broadband connection.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088118</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31089048</id>
	<title>Re:Yes.</title>
	<author>EnsilZah</author>
	<datestamp>1265053740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, Porn.<br>Or ostrich farming porn for that matter. (Googles "ostrich farming porn").</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , Porn.Or ostrich farming porn for that matter .
( Googles " ostrich farming porn " ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, Porn.Or ostrich farming porn for that matter.
(Googles "ostrich farming porn").</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31097780</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't matter right now</title>
	<author>u38cg</author>
	<datestamp>1265889120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't have any point to make, I just want to say, I hate you.  Fna!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have any point to make , I just want to say , I hate you .
Fna !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have any point to make, I just want to say, I hate you.
Fna!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088674</id>
	<title>Re:more competition</title>
	<author>EvanED</author>
	<datestamp>1265052600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Why are they afraid of telling us exactly what that "competetive" price is, and competetive to what?</i></p><p>Maybe they're still working it out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are they afraid of telling us exactly what that " competetive " price is , and competetive to what ? Maybe they 're still working it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are they afraid of telling us exactly what that "competetive" price is, and competetive to what?Maybe they're still working it out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088552</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31091468</id>
	<title>Re:I'm shocked</title>
	<author>Ambiguous Coward</author>
	<datestamp>1265021820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>23 comments about a 1 gigabit home connection, and not one of them has even mentioned the word "porn"?!?</p></div><p>No worries, I got this...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Man, you guys are slipping...</p></div><p>THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>23 comments about a 1 gigabit home connection , and not one of them has even mentioned the word " porn " ? !
? No worries , I got this...Man , you guys are slipping...THAT 'S WHAT SHE SAID</tokentext>
<sentencetext>23 comments about a 1 gigabit home connection, and not one of them has even mentioned the word "porn"?!
?No worries, I got this...Man, you guys are slipping...THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31090052</id>
	<title>Re:Madison, WI!</title>
	<author>not already in use</author>
	<datestamp>1265015280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, Google just opened up an office here in Madison... let's hope!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , Google just opened up an office here in Madison... let 's hope !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, Google just opened up an office here in Madison... let's hope!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31115026</id>
	<title>Comparison</title>
	<author>fulldecent</author>
	<datestamp>1265998080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course... this is 1Gb shared bandwidth...</p><p>But for comparison, Princeton's entire campus has peak utilization at 1Gb</p><p>Realtime chart: <a href="http://www.net.princeton.edu/" title="princeton.edu">http://www.net.princeton.edu/</a> [princeton.edu]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course... this is 1Gb shared bandwidth...But for comparison , Princeton 's entire campus has peak utilization at 1GbRealtime chart : http : //www.net.princeton.edu/ [ princeton.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course... this is 1Gb shared bandwidth...But for comparison, Princeton's entire campus has peak utilization at 1GbRealtime chart: http://www.net.princeton.edu/ [princeton.edu]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087736</id>
	<title>meanwhile,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265048820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>in Big Internet Bloodsucking Company headquarters:<br>
CEO: [loading gun] "Jimmy, tell my wife... Tell her I never gave a fuck about anyone but myself. Ha! Hahahahahaaa!"<br>
[pan to wall. shot heard, brains splatter]</htmltext>
<tokenext>in Big Internet Bloodsucking Company headquarters : CEO : [ loading gun ] " Jimmy , tell my wife... Tell her I never gave a fuck about anyone but myself .
Ha ! Hahahahahaaa !
" [ pan to wall .
shot heard , brains splatter ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in Big Internet Bloodsucking Company headquarters:
CEO: [loading gun] "Jimmy, tell my wife... Tell her I never gave a fuck about anyone but myself.
Ha! Hahahahahaaa!
"
[pan to wall.
shot heard, brains splatter]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087722</id>
	<title>Old news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265048760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>They launched this a few years back iirc:
<a href="http://www.google.com/tisp/" title="google.com">http://www.google.com/tisp/</a> [google.com] <p>tm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They launched this a few years back iirc : http : //www.google.com/tisp/ [ google.com ] tm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They launched this a few years back iirc:
http://www.google.com/tisp/ [google.com] tm</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088306</id>
	<title>Re:Time to upgrade the home network?</title>
	<author>icebraining</author>
	<datestamp>1265051220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Usually that's not related to the actual throughput. The problem is that those routers don't have enough RAM to keep up with all the connections bittorrent opens, and many lock up or slow down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Usually that 's not related to the actual throughput .
The problem is that those routers do n't have enough RAM to keep up with all the connections bittorrent opens , and many lock up or slow down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usually that's not related to the actual throughput.
The problem is that those routers don't have enough RAM to keep up with all the connections bittorrent opens, and many lock up or slow down.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087924</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088894</id>
	<title>Don't be evil</title>
	<author>Cur8or</author>
	<datestamp>1265053260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't be evil, quickly!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't be evil , quickly !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't be evil, quickly!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088386</id>
	<title>Re:more competition</title>
	<author>WinterSolstice</author>
	<datestamp>1265051520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see this as a response to the filtering and tiering complaints. Google seems to be attempting to say "Fine, take your toys and go home. We'll just give everyone new toys"</p><p>I wish them luck, and hope we're not seeing the founding of the new IBM/Ma Bell empire.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see this as a response to the filtering and tiering complaints .
Google seems to be attempting to say " Fine , take your toys and go home .
We 'll just give everyone new toys " I wish them luck , and hope we 're not seeing the founding of the new IBM/Ma Bell empire .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see this as a response to the filtering and tiering complaints.
Google seems to be attempting to say "Fine, take your toys and go home.
We'll just give everyone new toys"I wish them luck, and hope we're not seeing the founding of the new IBM/Ma Bell empire.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087672</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088220</id>
	<title>Re:I'm shocked</title>
	<author>nacturation</author>
	<datestamp>1265050800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>23 comments about a 1 gigabit home connection, and not one of them has even mentioned the word "porn"?!? Man, you guys are slipping...</p></div><p>It's the Astroglide.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>23 comments about a 1 gigabit home connection , and not one of them has even mentioned the word " porn " ? ! ?
Man , you guys are slipping...It 's the Astroglide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>23 comments about a 1 gigabit home connection, and not one of them has even mentioned the word "porn"?!?
Man, you guys are slipping...It's the Astroglide.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31092874</id>
	<title>What the...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265028960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I applaud Google's decision to enter the fray.<br> <br>What I don't understand is that, when I went to the 'sign me up... please!' page, I decided to run the network speed tests. I pay Charter in the Southeast for what I thought was 5 mbps (advertised) internet; the tests tell me I'm getting between 9.55 and <b>26</b> mbps. <b>Twenty six</b>. I had to run each of them about four times, I was in such disbelief.<br> <br>Why do I think that Charter is somehow accelerating all network tests I run after visiting the Google page?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I applaud Google 's decision to enter the fray .
What I do n't understand is that , when I went to the 'sign me up.. .
please ! ' page , I decided to run the network speed tests .
I pay Charter in the Southeast for what I thought was 5 mbps ( advertised ) internet ; the tests tell me I 'm getting between 9.55 and 26 mbps .
Twenty six .
I had to run each of them about four times , I was in such disbelief .
Why do I think that Charter is somehow accelerating all network tests I run after visiting the Google page ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I applaud Google's decision to enter the fray.
What I don't understand is that, when I went to the 'sign me up...
please!' page, I decided to run the network speed tests.
I pay Charter in the Southeast for what I thought was 5 mbps (advertised) internet; the tests tell me I'm getting between 9.55 and 26 mbps.
Twenty six.
I had to run each of them about four times, I was in such disbelief.
Why do I think that Charter is somehow accelerating all network tests I run after visiting the Google page?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31092206</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265024760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about a Google/Elon Musk tech conspiracy theory?  Google's portfolio plus SpaceX and Tesla Motors.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about a Google/Elon Musk tech conspiracy theory ?
Google 's portfolio plus SpaceX and Tesla Motors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about a Google/Elon Musk tech conspiracy theory?
Google's portfolio plus SpaceX and Tesla Motors.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088852</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31131784</id>
	<title>Open Access Network</title>
	<author>butlerm</author>
	<datestamp>1266073860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The big news here is this: <em>Openness and choice: We'll operate an "open access" network, giving users the choice of multiple service providers. And consistent with our past advocacy, we'll manage our network in an open, non-discriminatory and transparent way.</em></p><p>This is similar to the UTOPIA model - A layer 2 network infrastructure that multiple ISPs can use to provide layer 3 services. If other ISPs step up to the plate it is not entirely clear that Google needs to be an ISP <em>on their own network</em> at all.  Google wants essentially what UTOPIA wants, and the less capital they have to put into it, the better.</p><p>I suspect Google's real goal here is to jump start the provider independent network market - the one that the Baby Bells don't want to be in any more.  It is certainly in Google's strategic interest to do so.  The Baby Bells would rather set up walled gardens and charge royalties on everything. Essentially the exact opposite of the intent of the Communications Act of 1934.</p><p>The only way to fix that is to either establish provider independent local access, or make ISPs into (heavily regulated) common carriers.  There will never be enough facilities based competition to guarantee neutrality by any other means. Ten fibers to your house? I don't think so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The big news here is this : Openness and choice : We 'll operate an " open access " network , giving users the choice of multiple service providers .
And consistent with our past advocacy , we 'll manage our network in an open , non-discriminatory and transparent way.This is similar to the UTOPIA model - A layer 2 network infrastructure that multiple ISPs can use to provide layer 3 services .
If other ISPs step up to the plate it is not entirely clear that Google needs to be an ISP on their own network at all .
Google wants essentially what UTOPIA wants , and the less capital they have to put into it , the better.I suspect Google 's real goal here is to jump start the provider independent network market - the one that the Baby Bells do n't want to be in any more .
It is certainly in Google 's strategic interest to do so .
The Baby Bells would rather set up walled gardens and charge royalties on everything .
Essentially the exact opposite of the intent of the Communications Act of 1934.The only way to fix that is to either establish provider independent local access , or make ISPs into ( heavily regulated ) common carriers .
There will never be enough facilities based competition to guarantee neutrality by any other means .
Ten fibers to your house ?
I do n't think so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The big news here is this: Openness and choice: We'll operate an "open access" network, giving users the choice of multiple service providers.
And consistent with our past advocacy, we'll manage our network in an open, non-discriminatory and transparent way.This is similar to the UTOPIA model - A layer 2 network infrastructure that multiple ISPs can use to provide layer 3 services.
If other ISPs step up to the plate it is not entirely clear that Google needs to be an ISP on their own network at all.
Google wants essentially what UTOPIA wants, and the less capital they have to put into it, the better.I suspect Google's real goal here is to jump start the provider independent network market - the one that the Baby Bells don't want to be in any more.
It is certainly in Google's strategic interest to do so.
The Baby Bells would rather set up walled gardens and charge royalties on everything.
Essentially the exact opposite of the intent of the Communications Act of 1934.The only way to fix that is to either establish provider independent local access, or make ISPs into (heavily regulated) common carriers.
There will never be enough facilities based competition to guarantee neutrality by any other means.
Ten fibers to your house?
I don't think so.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265024760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Last week I overheard some Googleheads at the bar.  They were talking about a new line of business for Google that sounded really neat.  Customers could order groceries over the web and orders would be filled at highly-automated local warehouses and then delivered by GoogleVans.  Wonder why Amazon didn't think of this first....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Last week I overheard some Googleheads at the bar .
They were talking about a new line of business for Google that sounded really neat .
Customers could order groceries over the web and orders would be filled at highly-automated local warehouses and then delivered by GoogleVans .
Wonder why Amazon did n't think of this first... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last week I overheard some Googleheads at the bar.
They were talking about a new line of business for Google that sounded really neat.
Customers could order groceries over the web and orders would be filled at highly-automated local warehouses and then delivered by GoogleVans.
Wonder why Amazon didn't think of this first....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087694</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31087946</id>
	<title>How Else...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265049660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>will they get their next generation of cpu-sucking ads onto your desktop?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>will they get their next generation of cpu-sucking ads onto your desktop ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>will they get their next generation of cpu-sucking ads onto your desktop?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088028</id>
	<title>Re:Yes.</title>
	<author>mujadaddy</author>
	<datestamp>1265050020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get with the times, gramps: Alpaca are where it's at!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get with the times , gramps : Alpaca are where it 's at !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get with the times, gramps: Alpaca are where it's at!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1712200.31088402</id>
	<title>Why not just look at non-USA countries?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265051520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I Google has money to burn<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but surely they could save some of it on this study by just looking at what consumers do with very fast internet connections in countries that already provide them?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I Google has money to burn ... but surely they could save some of it on this study by just looking at what consumers do with very fast internet connections in countries that already provide them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I Google has money to burn ... but surely they could save some of it on this study by just looking at what consumers do with very fast internet connections in countries that already provide them?</sentencetext>
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