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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_09_0150204</id>
	<title>The iPad Questions Apple Won't Answer</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1265711040000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.infoworld.com/" rel="nofollow">snydeq</a> writes <i>"Apple's reticence to reveal details prior to a product's launch is legendary. But when Apple extends this silence beyond a product's unveiling, historically this has meant that the product cannot deliver the functionality that analysts and journalists are asking about. InfoWorld's Galen Gruman lists <a href="http://infoworld.com/d/mobilize/ipad-questions-apple-wont-answer-972">eight key questions for the iPad</a>, about all of which Apple has kept silent. Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad? Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email? Does the iPad support VPN? Configuration management? 'I have no doubt the iPad will be compelling to some users. But I now have major concerns that it will fulfill the potential beyond being an iTunes delivery screen that <a href="http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobilize/why-ipad-will-kill-netbook-and-chrome-os-911">I and other industry observers saw</a>,' Gruman writes."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>snydeq writes " Apple 's reticence to reveal details prior to a product 's launch is legendary .
But when Apple extends this silence beyond a product 's unveiling , historically this has meant that the product can not deliver the functionality that analysts and journalists are asking about .
InfoWorld 's Galen Gruman lists eight key questions for the iPad , about all of which Apple has kept silent .
Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad ?
Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email ?
Does the iPad support VPN ?
Configuration management ?
'I have no doubt the iPad will be compelling to some users .
But I now have major concerns that it will fulfill the potential beyond being an iTunes delivery screen that I and other industry observers saw, ' Gruman writes .
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<sentencetext>snydeq writes "Apple's reticence to reveal details prior to a product's launch is legendary.
But when Apple extends this silence beyond a product's unveiling, historically this has meant that the product cannot deliver the functionality that analysts and journalists are asking about.
InfoWorld's Galen Gruman lists eight key questions for the iPad, about all of which Apple has kept silent.
Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?
Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?
Does the iPad support VPN?
Configuration management?
'I have no doubt the iPad will be compelling to some users.
But I now have major concerns that it will fulfill the potential beyond being an iTunes delivery screen that I and other industry observers saw,' Gruman writes.
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	<title>WTF!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265743440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WTF!?<br>What is he smoking!  This is crazy!  Let's look at the VPN issue, for example.  That's purely on a speculation based upon the fact there may not be support for MS Exchange, which itself is a speculation!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF !
? What is he smoking !
This is crazy !
Let 's look at the VPN issue , for example .
That 's purely on a speculation based upon the fact there may not be support for MS Exchange , which itself is a speculation !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF!
?What is he smoking!
This is crazy!
Let's look at the VPN issue, for example.
That's purely on a speculation based upon the fact there may not be support for MS Exchange, which itself is a speculation!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070690</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265722380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quoth Jobs in response: "My legions of loyal fanboys, pants down with hands on their ankles and credit cards pinched in their butt cheeks."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Quoth Jobs in response : " My legions of loyal fanboys , pants down with hands on their ankles and credit cards pinched in their butt cheeks .
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<sentencetext>Quoth Jobs in response: "My legions of loyal fanboys, pants down with hands on their ankles and credit cards pinched in their butt cheeks.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070098</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>weeble</author>
	<datestamp>1265715240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?</p></div><p>Most likely.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?</p></div><p>Not likely.</p></div><p>The iPhone supports Microsoft Exchange mail, it would be strange for Apple to remove this feature when it is already present and works well for me.</p><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?</p></div><p>Not likely.</p></div><p>It is running very similar software to the iPhone, which provides this capability.  Configuration management may need more tweaks to support iWork but not much more.  VPN is already present in the iPhone OS, there is no reason not to carry this across.</p><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing?</p></div><p>There is no camera.</p></div><p>There is a space for a camera that fits the camera in the MacBook Pro - this has been shown in the spares delivered to repair shops.  This will probably arrive in version 2, something new to buy for all the early adopters. (Disclaimer, I bought the iPhone 2G and then the 3G and was thinking about the 3GS until the iPad arrived<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-) </p></div>
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<tokenext>Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad ? Most likely.Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email ? Not likely.The iPhone supports Microsoft Exchange mail , it would be strange for Apple to remove this feature when it is already present and works well for me.Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management ? Not likely.It is running very similar software to the iPhone , which provides this capability .
Configuration management may need more tweaks to support iWork but not much more .
VPN is already present in the iPhone OS , there is no reason not to carry this across.Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing ? There is no camera.There is a space for a camera that fits the camera in the MacBook Pro - this has been shown in the spares delivered to repair shops .
This will probably arrive in version 2 , something new to buy for all the early adopters .
( Disclaimer , I bought the iPhone 2G and then the 3G and was thinking about the 3GS until the iPad arrived ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?Most likely.Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?Not likely.The iPhone supports Microsoft Exchange mail, it would be strange for Apple to remove this feature when it is already present and works well for me.Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?Not likely.It is running very similar software to the iPhone, which provides this capability.
Configuration management may need more tweaks to support iWork but not much more.
VPN is already present in the iPhone OS, there is no reason not to carry this across.Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing?There is no camera.There is a space for a camera that fits the camera in the MacBook Pro - this has been shown in the spares delivered to repair shops.
This will probably arrive in version 2, something new to buy for all the early adopters.
(Disclaimer, I bought the iPhone 2G and then the 3G and was thinking about the 3GS until the iPad arrived ;-) 
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071370</id>
	<title>It's for musicians!</title>
	<author>multipart/mixed</author>
	<datestamp>1265727420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; That's the key thing I still haven't heard anyone explain. What is an Ipad for, exactly?</p><p>Aside from the price tag, these things look like they were purpose-built for me. I can't wait for the 2nd gen to come out so the first gen price plummets.</p><p>Now, why do I want one?  I've been looking for a device which<br>
&nbsp; - works well in portrait mode (no CPU fan obstructions, can charge without wrecking the cord)<br>
&nbsp; - Has a screen about the size of a piece of paper<br>
&nbsp; - Can view PDFs and flip pages by touch screen (no stylus)<br>
&nbsp; - Can search PDFs based on input from a cordless keyboard<br>
&nbsp; - Is back lit with a high-resolution screen (96 dpi would be great)<br>
&nbsp; - Looks good with black-on-white content<br>
&nbsp; - Gives off no interfering RF or loud sounds</p><p>If I had said device, I could use it to replace a stack of music books four feet high. I already have them scanned and the indices OCRed.  Actually, I have a local "web app" that can jump to songs based on the indices as well, but that relies on ActiveX; hopefully I can do something similar with the dev toolkit.</p><p>The only thing better would be a pair of these, where "turning the page" on the PDF shoots the page one screen left so you can always see the next page if you time your page-turning well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; That 's the key thing I still have n't heard anyone explain .
What is an Ipad for , exactly ? Aside from the price tag , these things look like they were purpose-built for me .
I ca n't wait for the 2nd gen to come out so the first gen price plummets.Now , why do I want one ?
I 've been looking for a device which   - works well in portrait mode ( no CPU fan obstructions , can charge without wrecking the cord )   - Has a screen about the size of a piece of paper   - Can view PDFs and flip pages by touch screen ( no stylus )   - Can search PDFs based on input from a cordless keyboard   - Is back lit with a high-resolution screen ( 96 dpi would be great )   - Looks good with black-on-white content   - Gives off no interfering RF or loud soundsIf I had said device , I could use it to replace a stack of music books four feet high .
I already have them scanned and the indices OCRed .
Actually , I have a local " web app " that can jump to songs based on the indices as well , but that relies on ActiveX ; hopefully I can do something similar with the dev toolkit.The only thing better would be a pair of these , where " turning the page " on the PDF shoots the page one screen left so you can always see the next page if you time your page-turning well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; That's the key thing I still haven't heard anyone explain.
What is an Ipad for, exactly?Aside from the price tag, these things look like they were purpose-built for me.
I can't wait for the 2nd gen to come out so the first gen price plummets.Now, why do I want one?
I've been looking for a device which
  - works well in portrait mode (no CPU fan obstructions, can charge without wrecking the cord)
  - Has a screen about the size of a piece of paper
  - Can view PDFs and flip pages by touch screen (no stylus)
  - Can search PDFs based on input from a cordless keyboard
  - Is back lit with a high-resolution screen (96 dpi would be great)
  - Looks good with black-on-white content
  - Gives off no interfering RF or loud soundsIf I had said device, I could use it to replace a stack of music books four feet high.
I already have them scanned and the indices OCRed.
Actually, I have a local "web app" that can jump to songs based on the indices as well, but that relies on ActiveX; hopefully I can do something similar with the dev toolkit.The only thing better would be a pair of these, where "turning the page" on the PDF shoots the page one screen left so you can always see the next page if you time your page-turning well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072300</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>JAlexoi</author>
	<datestamp>1265732340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What is "comfortable screen"? And what is not comfortable? I use my netbook for the exact same purpose(videos while doing cardio at the gym), with no issues whatsoever.
<br>

How much does a lifetime supply of glasses and ophthalmologist visits cost you? So stop comparing eInk to backlit LCD.<br>
PS: Most casual games players are already sold to Nintendo Wii.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is " comfortable screen " ?
And what is not comfortable ?
I use my netbook for the exact same purpose ( videos while doing cardio at the gym ) , with no issues whatsoever .
How much does a lifetime supply of glasses and ophthalmologist visits cost you ?
So stop comparing eInk to backlit LCD .
PS : Most casual games players are already sold to Nintendo Wii .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is "comfortable screen"?
And what is not comfortable?
I use my netbook for the exact same purpose(videos while doing cardio at the gym), with no issues whatsoever.
How much does a lifetime supply of glasses and ophthalmologist visits cost you?
So stop comparing eInk to backlit LCD.
PS: Most casual games players are already sold to Nintendo Wii.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31082056</id>
	<title>Hooray for AdBlock</title>
	<author>ekhben</author>
	<datestamp>1265737020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems pretty clear the author has just put together a few hot-topic items (all of which have known answers) spread out over a six-page article to generate impressions.  EEesh.  Checking...yep, kdawson article.  Ugh, my bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems pretty clear the author has just put together a few hot-topic items ( all of which have known answers ) spread out over a six-page article to generate impressions .
EEesh. Checking...yep , kdawson article .
Ugh , my bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems pretty clear the author has just put together a few hot-topic items (all of which have known answers) spread out over a six-page article to generate impressions.
EEesh.  Checking...yep, kdawson article.
Ugh, my bad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072224</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>Pollardito</author>
	<datestamp>1265731920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>the iPod Touch is still the iPod Touch, it's the iPad that should be referred to as the iPod Maxi</htmltext>
<tokenext>the iPod Touch is still the iPod Touch , it 's the iPad that should be referred to as the iPod Maxi</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the iPod Touch is still the iPod Touch, it's the iPad that should be referred to as the iPod Maxi</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072414</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265732820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?</p></div><p>Not likely.</p></div><p>The iPhone supports Microsoft Exchange mail, it would be strange for Apple to remove this feature when it is already present and works well for me.</p></div><p>Iphone had support for Traditional Chinese but it's removed from ipad.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email ? Not likely.The iPhone supports Microsoft Exchange mail , it would be strange for Apple to remove this feature when it is already present and works well for me.Iphone had support for Traditional Chinese but it 's removed from ipad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?Not likely.The iPhone supports Microsoft Exchange mail, it would be strange for Apple to remove this feature when it is already present and works well for me.Iphone had support for Traditional Chinese but it's removed from ipad.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071164</id>
	<title>What a joke</title>
	<author>Achaeon</author>
	<datestamp>1265726220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article is no less vague than Apple themselves. It's a bunch of supposition about 'maybe this' 'if that'. I'm not even a fan of apple and this seems like a load of anti-apple propaganda.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article is no less vague than Apple themselves .
It 's a bunch of supposition about 'maybe this ' 'if that' .
I 'm not even a fan of apple and this seems like a load of anti-apple propaganda .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article is no less vague than Apple themselves.
It's a bunch of supposition about 'maybe this' 'if that'.
I'm not even a fan of apple and this seems like a load of anti-apple propaganda.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070418</id>
	<title>Re:Just pollin'</title>
	<author>GordonBX</author>
	<datestamp>1265719380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't see a market for this thing and it leaves me puzzled.  My question is this: does anyone there actually own something that could be seen as a precursor to this machine?</p></div><p>Fundamentally, I believe that the iPad is positioned to compete with netbooks, with a side-order of e-book reader.
The netbook market is well established, and is currently in a cycle of increasing features, speed etc. because actual netbooks are slow and have tiny unusable screens and tiny unusable keyboards. The e-book reader market is small, but is widely believed to be "taking off" with things like the Kindle.

I don't think that the iPad is necessarily the ideal platform for a dedicated slashdotter, but it will be:

a) Incredibly easy to use.  There were *plenty* of smartphones avaialable before the iPhone, but until the iPhone, nobody used any of the features.
b) Not Nerdy. There is a larger potential market for non-nerds than there is for nerds (=slashdotters). This market does not care whether they are "locked in" "locked out" or whatever, they just think it's shiny and cool.
c) O/S improvements will continue.  The original iPhone didn't support 3rd-party installed apps, tethering, or even cut &amp; paste.  These were added fairly swiftly and I see this happening with time on the iPad to support things like external cameras, some kind of multitasking etc.

Everyone seems to keep going on and on about the lack of "proper" multitasking, but why, really? what you really need is message push so that you can be alerted to switch apps when something happens - e.g. a twitter message.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I do n't see a market for this thing and it leaves me puzzled .
My question is this : does anyone there actually own something that could be seen as a precursor to this machine ? Fundamentally , I believe that the iPad is positioned to compete with netbooks , with a side-order of e-book reader .
The netbook market is well established , and is currently in a cycle of increasing features , speed etc .
because actual netbooks are slow and have tiny unusable screens and tiny unusable keyboards .
The e-book reader market is small , but is widely believed to be " taking off " with things like the Kindle .
I do n't think that the iPad is necessarily the ideal platform for a dedicated slashdotter , but it will be : a ) Incredibly easy to use .
There were * plenty * of smartphones avaialable before the iPhone , but until the iPhone , nobody used any of the features .
b ) Not Nerdy .
There is a larger potential market for non-nerds than there is for nerds ( = slashdotters ) .
This market does not care whether they are " locked in " " locked out " or whatever , they just think it 's shiny and cool .
c ) O/S improvements will continue .
The original iPhone did n't support 3rd-party installed apps , tethering , or even cut &amp; paste .
These were added fairly swiftly and I see this happening with time on the iPad to support things like external cameras , some kind of multitasking etc .
Everyone seems to keep going on and on about the lack of " proper " multitasking , but why , really ?
what you really need is message push so that you can be alerted to switch apps when something happens - e.g .
a twitter message .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see a market for this thing and it leaves me puzzled.
My question is this: does anyone there actually own something that could be seen as a precursor to this machine?Fundamentally, I believe that the iPad is positioned to compete with netbooks, with a side-order of e-book reader.
The netbook market is well established, and is currently in a cycle of increasing features, speed etc.
because actual netbooks are slow and have tiny unusable screens and tiny unusable keyboards.
The e-book reader market is small, but is widely believed to be "taking off" with things like the Kindle.
I don't think that the iPad is necessarily the ideal platform for a dedicated slashdotter, but it will be:

a) Incredibly easy to use.
There were *plenty* of smartphones avaialable before the iPhone, but until the iPhone, nobody used any of the features.
b) Not Nerdy.
There is a larger potential market for non-nerds than there is for nerds (=slashdotters).
This market does not care whether they are "locked in" "locked out" or whatever, they just think it's shiny and cool.
c) O/S improvements will continue.
The original iPhone didn't support 3rd-party installed apps, tethering, or even cut &amp; paste.
These were added fairly swiftly and I see this happening with time on the iPad to support things like external cameras, some kind of multitasking etc.
Everyone seems to keep going on and on about the lack of "proper" multitasking, but why, really?
what you really need is message push so that you can be alerted to switch apps when something happens - e.g.
a twitter message.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070114</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>teslar</author>
	<datestamp>1265715420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><blockquote><div><p>Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?</p></div></blockquote><p>Not likely.</p></div></blockquote><p>Microsoft Exchange is supported on the iPad Nano (formerly known as iPod Touch), so I don't see why it shouldn't be supported on the big brother.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management ? Not likely.Microsoft Exchange is supported on the iPad Nano ( formerly known as iPod Touch ) , so I do n't see why it should n't be supported on the big brother .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?Not likely.Microsoft Exchange is supported on the iPad Nano (formerly known as iPod Touch), so I don't see why it shouldn't be supported on the big brother.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070802</id>
	<title>A more important question unasked...</title>
	<author>jburroug</author>
	<datestamp>1265723520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will I be able to tether the iPad to my iPhone's 3G connection? Yes I know at the moment AT&amp;T doesn't allow tethering on iPhones in the US but that's not a hardware issue, it's a policy issue. I'd potentially be interested in buying a iPad WiFi version if they decide to allow it to play nice with the iPhone. There's potential there for the iPad to tether to an iPhone and take advantage of the latter's 3G connection AND GPS services. If Apple and AT&amp;T decide to allow such tethering it would be worth my while to buy an iPad, just for the gizmo factor. But if they insist requiring existing Apple and AT&amp;T customers to pay AT&amp;T a second time for 3G access just because they are using a second device then screw it, it ain't cool enough for me to pay twice to use the same network I've already bought an unlimited access plan for.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Josh</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will I be able to tether the iPad to my iPhone 's 3G connection ?
Yes I know at the moment AT&amp;T does n't allow tethering on iPhones in the US but that 's not a hardware issue , it 's a policy issue .
I 'd potentially be interested in buying a iPad WiFi version if they decide to allow it to play nice with the iPhone .
There 's potential there for the iPad to tether to an iPhone and take advantage of the latter 's 3G connection AND GPS services .
If Apple and AT&amp;T decide to allow such tethering it would be worth my while to buy an iPad , just for the gizmo factor .
But if they insist requiring existing Apple and AT&amp;T customers to pay AT&amp;T a second time for 3G access just because they are using a second device then screw it , it ai n't cool enough for me to pay twice to use the same network I 've already bought an unlimited access plan for.Cheers,Josh</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will I be able to tether the iPad to my iPhone's 3G connection?
Yes I know at the moment AT&amp;T doesn't allow tethering on iPhones in the US but that's not a hardware issue, it's a policy issue.
I'd potentially be interested in buying a iPad WiFi version if they decide to allow it to play nice with the iPhone.
There's potential there for the iPad to tether to an iPhone and take advantage of the latter's 3G connection AND GPS services.
If Apple and AT&amp;T decide to allow such tethering it would be worth my while to buy an iPad, just for the gizmo factor.
But if they insist requiring existing Apple and AT&amp;T customers to pay AT&amp;T a second time for 3G access just because they are using a second device then screw it, it ain't cool enough for me to pay twice to use the same network I've already bought an unlimited access plan for.Cheers,Josh</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071480</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>TerribleNews</author>
	<datestamp>1265728020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(Disclaimer, I bought the iPhone 2G and then the 3G and was <em>thinking about</em> the 3GS until the iPad arrived<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-) </p></div><p>Please hand in your Apple Fanboy Card and leave the meeting.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( Disclaimer , I bought the iPhone 2G and then the 3G and was thinking about the 3GS until the iPad arrived ; - ) Please hand in your Apple Fanboy Card and leave the meeting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(Disclaimer, I bought the iPhone 2G and then the 3G and was thinking about the 3GS until the iPad arrived ;-) Please hand in your Apple Fanboy Card and leave the meeting.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31113572</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>aug24</author>
	<datestamp>1265992860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It does cost something to allow multi-tasking... it costs user dis-satisfaction at bad applications slowing the whole machine down.<br>It does cost something to allow unlimited installation of untested 3rd party applications... it costs user dis-satisfaction at apps that are crappy.</p><p>So don't do those.</p><p>That's the plan, and it ties in well with the App Store / money thing too, but I have downloaded everything I have wanted for my iPhone for nothing (and then bought a couple lately, as I wanted to repay the devs).  What need to run 3rd party apps am I missing?</p><p>As for multi-tasking, that's not needed for this kind of device.  It switches apps in at most five seconds.  What am I missing?</p><p>Justin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does cost something to allow multi-tasking... it costs user dis-satisfaction at bad applications slowing the whole machine down.It does cost something to allow unlimited installation of untested 3rd party applications... it costs user dis-satisfaction at apps that are crappy.So do n't do those.That 's the plan , and it ties in well with the App Store / money thing too , but I have downloaded everything I have wanted for my iPhone for nothing ( and then bought a couple lately , as I wanted to repay the devs ) .
What need to run 3rd party apps am I missing ? As for multi-tasking , that 's not needed for this kind of device .
It switches apps in at most five seconds .
What am I missing ? Justin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It does cost something to allow multi-tasking... it costs user dis-satisfaction at bad applications slowing the whole machine down.It does cost something to allow unlimited installation of untested 3rd party applications... it costs user dis-satisfaction at apps that are crappy.So don't do those.That's the plan, and it ties in well with the App Store / money thing too, but I have downloaded everything I have wanted for my iPhone for nothing (and then bought a couple lately, as I wanted to repay the devs).
What need to run 3rd party apps am I missing?As for multi-tasking, that's not needed for this kind of device.
It switches apps in at most five seconds.
What am I missing?Justin.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070138</id>
	<title>What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Beelzebud</author>
	<datestamp>1265715720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's the key thing I still haven't heard anyone explain.  What is an Ipad for, exactly?
<br>
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Maybe it's just me, but the ipad seems like a monumental waste of money.
<br>
<br>
If you're trying to sell me something for $300 minimum, and you can't tell me with a straight answer what the device is for, then you have a problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the key thing I still have n't heard anyone explain .
What is an Ipad for , exactly ?
Maybe it 's just me , but the ipad seems like a monumental waste of money .
If you 're trying to sell me something for $ 300 minimum , and you ca n't tell me with a straight answer what the device is for , then you have a problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the key thing I still haven't heard anyone explain.
What is an Ipad for, exactly?
Maybe it's just me, but the ipad seems like a monumental waste of money.
If you're trying to sell me something for $300 minimum, and you can't tell me with a straight answer what the device is for, then you have a problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073220</id>
	<title>Who cares what he thinks?</title>
	<author>kupekhaize</author>
	<datestamp>1265736000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The author of this article acts as though this is something new. Apple has a LONG standing policy of not commenting on products before they are released, beyond what has been published on their web page. Even the information that IS posted is done so with a huge grain of salt saying "these features are subject to change without notice." The author of this article acts like Apple's refusal to answer these questions is something new. Its NOT. Its very, very rare that they will start talking about features before a product is shipping. Even once a product has shipped, its bloody impossible to get them to comment beyond the specs posted on their web pages.</p><p>The article's author acts like these are the biggest questions of all time, and he must get an answer or it just means the support isn't there and the world will end. Quite honestly guy, you're not that important. Their marketing and public relations teams aren't about to drop their long standing policy of not commenting on products before they ship. They don't want to piss of Steve Jobs and get fired from their job any more then you'd want to get fired from your job. Know why they haven't called you back? They NEVER call back when people ask these kinds of questions. If they answer one person's questions, 50 more people start calling and trying to get info as well. Get over yourself. Seriously. You're not that important.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The author of this article acts as though this is something new .
Apple has a LONG standing policy of not commenting on products before they are released , beyond what has been published on their web page .
Even the information that IS posted is done so with a huge grain of salt saying " these features are subject to change without notice .
" The author of this article acts like Apple 's refusal to answer these questions is something new .
Its NOT .
Its very , very rare that they will start talking about features before a product is shipping .
Even once a product has shipped , its bloody impossible to get them to comment beyond the specs posted on their web pages.The article 's author acts like these are the biggest questions of all time , and he must get an answer or it just means the support is n't there and the world will end .
Quite honestly guy , you 're not that important .
Their marketing and public relations teams are n't about to drop their long standing policy of not commenting on products before they ship .
They do n't want to piss of Steve Jobs and get fired from their job any more then you 'd want to get fired from your job .
Know why they have n't called you back ?
They NEVER call back when people ask these kinds of questions .
If they answer one person 's questions , 50 more people start calling and trying to get info as well .
Get over yourself .
Seriously. You 're not that important .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The author of this article acts as though this is something new.
Apple has a LONG standing policy of not commenting on products before they are released, beyond what has been published on their web page.
Even the information that IS posted is done so with a huge grain of salt saying "these features are subject to change without notice.
" The author of this article acts like Apple's refusal to answer these questions is something new.
Its NOT.
Its very, very rare that they will start talking about features before a product is shipping.
Even once a product has shipped, its bloody impossible to get them to comment beyond the specs posted on their web pages.The article's author acts like these are the biggest questions of all time, and he must get an answer or it just means the support isn't there and the world will end.
Quite honestly guy, you're not that important.
Their marketing and public relations teams aren't about to drop their long standing policy of not commenting on products before they ship.
They don't want to piss of Steve Jobs and get fired from their job any more then you'd want to get fired from your job.
Know why they haven't called you back?
They NEVER call back when people ask these kinds of questions.
If they answer one person's questions, 50 more people start calling and trying to get info as well.
Get over yourself.
Seriously. You're not that important.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070180</id>
	<title>Shouldn't we assume?</title>
	<author>Asadullah Ahmad</author>
	<datestamp>1265716260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they are not answering, doesn't this mean that most of those functions are not available?</p><p>On a side-note though, I am still not getting the point of iPad. It's not an iPhone but runs its OS and its too big and expensive to just be an audio/video player to say the least. Probably I was impressed by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnT0zp8Ya4" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Hitler</a> [youtube.com], but still....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they are not answering , does n't this mean that most of those functions are not available ? On a side-note though , I am still not getting the point of iPad .
It 's not an iPhone but runs its OS and its too big and expensive to just be an audio/video player to say the least .
Probably I was impressed by Hitler [ youtube.com ] , but still... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they are not answering, doesn't this mean that most of those functions are not available?On a side-note though, I am still not getting the point of iPad.
It's not an iPhone but runs its OS and its too big and expensive to just be an audio/video player to say the least.
Probably I was impressed by Hitler [youtube.com], but still....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071090</id>
	<title>Only question I want to know the anwser too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265725860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>is, why did you sell us out to the publishers Steve?</p><p>As I posted elsewhere on this subject, we have gone from being the customer to being the goose.  Steve is now clearly on the side of content providers.  Apple/Steve is the reason why people like Murdoch will be able to charge $14.99 per e-book.  Gone are the days where he stood up and proclaimed "this is the line in the sand"</p><p>Should have realized it with 1.29 music but people laughed it off...  well Steve is laughing now with his new friends.  The iPad is tailored made for the publishing industries, be it music, book, or video, just not for us</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is , why did you sell us out to the publishers Steve ? As I posted elsewhere on this subject , we have gone from being the customer to being the goose .
Steve is now clearly on the side of content providers .
Apple/Steve is the reason why people like Murdoch will be able to charge $ 14.99 per e-book .
Gone are the days where he stood up and proclaimed " this is the line in the sand " Should have realized it with 1.29 music but people laughed it off... well Steve is laughing now with his new friends .
The iPad is tailored made for the publishing industries , be it music , book , or video , just not for us</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is, why did you sell us out to the publishers Steve?As I posted elsewhere on this subject, we have gone from being the customer to being the goose.
Steve is now clearly on the side of content providers.
Apple/Steve is the reason why people like Murdoch will be able to charge $14.99 per e-book.
Gone are the days where he stood up and proclaimed "this is the line in the sand"Should have realized it with 1.29 music but people laughed it off...  well Steve is laughing now with his new friends.
The iPad is tailored made for the publishing industries, be it music, book, or video, just not for us</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073848</id>
	<title>Re:Just pollin'</title>
	<author>david\_thornley</author>
	<datestamp>1265738100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
And this, lady and gentlemen (this is Slashdot after all) is the classic loser geek attitude.
</p><p>
When confronted with a product success that cannot be based on raw features, the intelligent geek asks "What else does it have going for it?  Would it be something I'd like?  How can I add that something else to what I'm doing so I can be successful too?"  The intelligent geek notices that the product, while it may be limited, is easy to use and does some things very well indeed.  The intelligent geek may or may not succeed, but will take an honest and effective shot at it.
</p><p>
The loser geek blames it all on "marketing", which the loser geek doesn't even understand.  In other words, the loser geek blames the failures of geekdom on some black magic he (a gender-neutral pronoun seems superfluous here) can't possibly understand.  He has the classic victim mentality, blaming his failures on things he believes to be out of his control.  This is also a lack of empathy that's a bit unusual even for a geek, since he either can't or refuses to understand that his tastes aren't universal.
</p><p>
As a compensation, the loser geek gets to be smug about his own superiority, since any failures on his part, or failures on the part of things he likes, can be blamed on some evil force that lacks the plausibility of palmistry and the scientific rigor of astrology.  He can live in his mother's basement, confident that the world would be a much better place, and he'd be far better off, if somebody else would come around and dispel that enchantment that he insists is the cause of all his problems, but refuses to try to understand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And this , lady and gentlemen ( this is Slashdot after all ) is the classic loser geek attitude .
When confronted with a product success that can not be based on raw features , the intelligent geek asks " What else does it have going for it ?
Would it be something I 'd like ?
How can I add that something else to what I 'm doing so I can be successful too ?
" The intelligent geek notices that the product , while it may be limited , is easy to use and does some things very well indeed .
The intelligent geek may or may not succeed , but will take an honest and effective shot at it .
The loser geek blames it all on " marketing " , which the loser geek does n't even understand .
In other words , the loser geek blames the failures of geekdom on some black magic he ( a gender-neutral pronoun seems superfluous here ) ca n't possibly understand .
He has the classic victim mentality , blaming his failures on things he believes to be out of his control .
This is also a lack of empathy that 's a bit unusual even for a geek , since he either ca n't or refuses to understand that his tastes are n't universal .
As a compensation , the loser geek gets to be smug about his own superiority , since any failures on his part , or failures on the part of things he likes , can be blamed on some evil force that lacks the plausibility of palmistry and the scientific rigor of astrology .
He can live in his mother 's basement , confident that the world would be a much better place , and he 'd be far better off , if somebody else would come around and dispel that enchantment that he insists is the cause of all his problems , but refuses to try to understand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
And this, lady and gentlemen (this is Slashdot after all) is the classic loser geek attitude.
When confronted with a product success that cannot be based on raw features, the intelligent geek asks "What else does it have going for it?
Would it be something I'd like?
How can I add that something else to what I'm doing so I can be successful too?
"  The intelligent geek notices that the product, while it may be limited, is easy to use and does some things very well indeed.
The intelligent geek may or may not succeed, but will take an honest and effective shot at it.
The loser geek blames it all on "marketing", which the loser geek doesn't even understand.
In other words, the loser geek blames the failures of geekdom on some black magic he (a gender-neutral pronoun seems superfluous here) can't possibly understand.
He has the classic victim mentality, blaming his failures on things he believes to be out of his control.
This is also a lack of empathy that's a bit unusual even for a geek, since he either can't or refuses to understand that his tastes aren't universal.
As a compensation, the loser geek gets to be smug about his own superiority, since any failures on his part, or failures on the part of things he likes, can be blamed on some evil force that lacks the plausibility of palmistry and the scientific rigor of astrology.
He can live in his mother's basement, confident that the world would be a much better place, and he'd be far better off, if somebody else would come around and dispel that enchantment that he insists is the cause of all his problems, but refuses to try to understand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073654</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1265737440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Even a locked device can be very useful, if it accomplishes an attractive set of purposes economically and well</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
You forgot to add "as long as it's not made by Microsoft, Sony, or any other of the current hate figures on slashdot."</p></div>
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<tokenext>Even a locked device can be very useful , if it accomplishes an attractive set of purposes economically and well You forgot to add " as long as it 's not made by Microsoft , Sony , or any other of the current hate figures on slashdot .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even a locked device can be very useful, if it accomplishes an attractive set of purposes economically and well

You forgot to add "as long as it's not made by Microsoft, Sony, or any other of the current hate figures on slashdot.
"
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071212</id>
	<title>Yes...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265726520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But does it run Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But does it run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But does it run Linux?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31077966</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>Silas is back</author>
	<datestamp>1265710320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Also, I seriously doubt you'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email.</p></div><p>Ask any iPhone/iPad developer: Yes you can. The iPad will mount and each application can share document directories with the computer connected via USB.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , I seriously doubt you 'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email.Ask any iPhone/iPad developer : Yes you can .
The iPad will mount and each application can share document directories with the computer connected via USB .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, I seriously doubt you'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email.Ask any iPhone/iPad developer: Yes you can.
The iPad will mount and each application can share document directories with the computer connected via USB.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072070</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>goose-incarnated</author>
	<datestamp>1265731260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?</p></div><p>Most likely.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?</p></div><p>Not likely.</p></div><p>The iPhone supports Microsoft Exchange mail, it would be strange for Apple to remove this feature when it is already present and works well for me.</p><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?</p></div><p>Not likely.</p></div><p>It is running very similar software to the iPhone, which provides this capability.  Configuration management may need more tweaks to support iWork but not much more.  VPN is already present in the iPhone OS, there is no reason not to carry this across.</p><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing?</p></div><p>There is no camera.</p></div><p>There is a space for a camera that fits the camera in the MacBook Pro - this has been shown in the spares delivered to repair shops.  This will probably arrive in version 2, something new to buy for all the early adopters. (Disclaimer, I bought the iPhone 2G and then the 3G and was thinking about the 3GS until the iPad arrived<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-) </p></div><p>
Translation:<br>
<i>It's not there right now but you can't prove it won't be there eventually</i>
<br>
Dunno - perhaps I'll wait and see if my HTC eventually gets released with a larger touchscreen and tablet software instead of waiting to see if the iPad gets released with all the features I want.<br>
Boils down to the same thing in either case<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad ? Most likely.Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email ? Not likely.The iPhone supports Microsoft Exchange mail , it would be strange for Apple to remove this feature when it is already present and works well for me.Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management ? Not likely.It is running very similar software to the iPhone , which provides this capability .
Configuration management may need more tweaks to support iWork but not much more .
VPN is already present in the iPhone OS , there is no reason not to carry this across.Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing ? There is no camera.There is a space for a camera that fits the camera in the MacBook Pro - this has been shown in the spares delivered to repair shops .
This will probably arrive in version 2 , something new to buy for all the early adopters .
( Disclaimer , I bought the iPhone 2G and then the 3G and was thinking about the 3GS until the iPad arrived ; - ) Translation : It 's not there right now but you ca n't prove it wo n't be there eventually Dunno - perhaps I 'll wait and see if my HTC eventually gets released with a larger touchscreen and tablet software instead of waiting to see if the iPad gets released with all the features I want .
Boils down to the same thing in either case : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?Most likely.Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?Not likely.The iPhone supports Microsoft Exchange mail, it would be strange for Apple to remove this feature when it is already present and works well for me.Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?Not likely.It is running very similar software to the iPhone, which provides this capability.
Configuration management may need more tweaks to support iWork but not much more.
VPN is already present in the iPhone OS, there is no reason not to carry this across.Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing?There is no camera.There is a space for a camera that fits the camera in the MacBook Pro - this has been shown in the spares delivered to repair shops.
This will probably arrive in version 2, something new to buy for all the early adopters.
(Disclaimer, I bought the iPhone 2G and then the 3G and was thinking about the 3GS until the iPad arrived ;-) 
Translation:
It's not there right now but you can't prove it won't be there eventually

Dunno - perhaps I'll wait and see if my HTC eventually gets released with a larger touchscreen and tablet software instead of waiting to see if the iPad gets released with all the features I want.
Boils down to the same thing in either case :-)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073858</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Sandbags</author>
	<datestamp>1265738100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, it;s an always on convenience device and communication platform (beyond what a phone can do, but always on which a PC is not), that happens to also play video, games, and control your home theater system, and edit documents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it ; s an always on convenience device and communication platform ( beyond what a phone can do , but always on which a PC is not ) , that happens to also play video , games , and control your home theater system , and edit documents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it;s an always on convenience device and communication platform (beyond what a phone can do, but always on which a PC is not), that happens to also play video, games, and control your home theater system, and edit documents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071820</id>
	<title>Stupid article</title>
	<author>Arkham</author>
	<datestamp>1265729820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This article is stupid.  It reads as "waa, Apple won't give me a prototype, so I am going to throw a hissy fit."</p><p>Turns out that just because you can physically type an article doesn't mean you have any insight into anything that would make said article interesting or compelling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This article is stupid .
It reads as " waa , Apple wo n't give me a prototype , so I am going to throw a hissy fit .
" Turns out that just because you can physically type an article does n't mean you have any insight into anything that would make said article interesting or compelling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This article is stupid.
It reads as "waa, Apple won't give me a prototype, so I am going to throw a hissy fit.
"Turns out that just because you can physically type an article doesn't mean you have any insight into anything that would make said article interesting or compelling.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31075174</id>
	<title>Re:Just pollin'</title>
	<author>prockcore</author>
	<datestamp>1265743020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since you're already getting a cell card for your sales people, why not just spend the $100 up-front and get the netbook that every single cell provider offers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since you 're already getting a cell card for your sales people , why not just spend the $ 100 up-front and get the netbook that every single cell provider offers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since you're already getting a cell card for your sales people, why not just spend the $100 up-front and get the netbook that every single cell provider offers?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31079676</id>
	<title>Re:RIC, not FUD</title>
	<author>Gilmoure</author>
	<datestamp>1265717460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just want a larger iPod Touch that can stream wirelessly from my iTunes library.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just want a larger iPod Touch that can stream wirelessly from my iTunes library .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just want a larger iPod Touch that can stream wirelessly from my iTunes library.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31076334</id>
	<title>Apple buying procedure</title>
	<author>AgentSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1265746860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, all arguments aside about what Apple has or hasn't done. This what you do.</p><p>Wait.</p><p>Wait until either Apple provides an iPAD with the features you require or the technology becomes more mature.<br>This speculating and armchair techno quarterbacking makes my feet itch.</p><p>I waited until a 5th gen Video iPOD before I bought one. Why?<br>Honestly, it was expensive as hell. I'm sure I could have bought other mp3 players, but this device could play video<br>and had a legal content provider available in iTUNES. It gave me direct access to content until I got up to speed with getting content from other areas. Not to mention a great deal of third party support for accessories.</p><p>It could be that someone else beats Apple to the punch. Buy their offering instead and integrate it into<br>your existing Mac or PC infrastructure.</p><p>I've been off an on with Apple since the Apple II days. When they started to jump the shark with the Performa<br>series I looked elsewhere. When products looked more promising I bought from Apple again. One of the benefits<br>with buying Apple is that their products usually last quite a while.</p><p>If you are trying to buy on the bleeding edge with Apple you will get cut. How bad you get cut depends on<br>how far away the device meets your expectations.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , all arguments aside about what Apple has or has n't done .
This what you do.Wait.Wait until either Apple provides an iPAD with the features you require or the technology becomes more mature.This speculating and armchair techno quarterbacking makes my feet itch.I waited until a 5th gen Video iPOD before I bought one .
Why ? Honestly , it was expensive as hell .
I 'm sure I could have bought other mp3 players , but this device could play videoand had a legal content provider available in iTUNES .
It gave me direct access to content until I got up to speed with getting content from other areas .
Not to mention a great deal of third party support for accessories.It could be that someone else beats Apple to the punch .
Buy their offering instead and integrate it intoyour existing Mac or PC infrastructure.I 've been off an on with Apple since the Apple II days .
When they started to jump the shark with the Performaseries I looked elsewhere .
When products looked more promising I bought from Apple again .
One of the benefitswith buying Apple is that their products usually last quite a while.If you are trying to buy on the bleeding edge with Apple you will get cut .
How bad you get cut depends onhow far away the device meets your expectations .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, all arguments aside about what Apple has or hasn't done.
This what you do.Wait.Wait until either Apple provides an iPAD with the features you require or the technology becomes more mature.This speculating and armchair techno quarterbacking makes my feet itch.I waited until a 5th gen Video iPOD before I bought one.
Why?Honestly, it was expensive as hell.
I'm sure I could have bought other mp3 players, but this device could play videoand had a legal content provider available in iTUNES.
It gave me direct access to content until I got up to speed with getting content from other areas.
Not to mention a great deal of third party support for accessories.It could be that someone else beats Apple to the punch.
Buy their offering instead and integrate it intoyour existing Mac or PC infrastructure.I've been off an on with Apple since the Apple II days.
When they started to jump the shark with the Performaseries I looked elsewhere.
When products looked more promising I bought from Apple again.
One of the benefitswith buying Apple is that their products usually last quite a while.If you are trying to buy on the bleeding edge with Apple you will get cut.
How bad you get cut depends onhow far away the device meets your expectations.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070252</id>
	<title>Re:Just pollin'</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265716980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Irrelevant questions.</p><p>Here's how it works: spend fortune on marketing, develop clich&#233; being for hip people, develop massive hype, make customers forget they don't need your products.</p><p>It's all about marketing and not about products, features and usefulness. Their marketing is so successful they turned a brand into a religion. You don't question faith, you invest in it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Irrelevant questions.Here 's how it works : spend fortune on marketing , develop clich   being for hip people , develop massive hype , make customers forget they do n't need your products.It 's all about marketing and not about products , features and usefulness .
Their marketing is so successful they turned a brand into a religion .
You do n't question faith , you invest in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Irrelevant questions.Here's how it works: spend fortune on marketing, develop cliché being for hip people, develop massive hype, make customers forget they don't need your products.It's all about marketing and not about products, features and usefulness.
Their marketing is so successful they turned a brand into a religion.
You don't question faith, you invest in it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070360</id>
	<title>Re:seat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265718600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What makes you think that the 'people' haven't already 'got it' and simply don't care?  You do realise that to a lot of people, having ultimate control over something isn't an issue - I myself own an iPhone, and I have lots of apps on it.  I am a software developer by trade, and have several publicly available private projects - but the perceived lack of 'openness' of the iPhone doesn't bother me in the slightest as its a tool that functions as well as I need it to.  I made a choice when I bought into it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes you think that the 'people ' have n't already 'got it ' and simply do n't care ?
You do realise that to a lot of people , having ultimate control over something is n't an issue - I myself own an iPhone , and I have lots of apps on it .
I am a software developer by trade , and have several publicly available private projects - but the perceived lack of 'openness ' of the iPhone does n't bother me in the slightest as its a tool that functions as well as I need it to .
I made a choice when I bought into it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes you think that the 'people' haven't already 'got it' and simply don't care?
You do realise that to a lot of people, having ultimate control over something isn't an issue - I myself own an iPhone, and I have lots of apps on it.
I am a software developer by trade, and have several publicly available private projects - but the perceived lack of 'openness' of the iPhone doesn't bother me in the slightest as its a tool that functions as well as I need it to.
I made a choice when I bought into it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070770</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>tclgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1265723160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For me, the purpose is to have an ebook reader (that I can read in portrait and landscape equally well), media player, web surfer, and presentation maker/presenter all in one lightweight device. I don't own an iphone, laptop or ipod, and I have no desire to carry a netbook where I'm forced to carry around a keyboard I'll use maybe 5\% of the time. I want a multitouch device that makes it painless to purchase and use videos, music and books, and one with enough battery life to survive a full working day (mostly, the commute at each end, plus part-time use in the interim).</htmltext>
<tokenext>For me , the purpose is to have an ebook reader ( that I can read in portrait and landscape equally well ) , media player , web surfer , and presentation maker/presenter all in one lightweight device .
I do n't own an iphone , laptop or ipod , and I have no desire to carry a netbook where I 'm forced to carry around a keyboard I 'll use maybe 5 \ % of the time .
I want a multitouch device that makes it painless to purchase and use videos , music and books , and one with enough battery life to survive a full working day ( mostly , the commute at each end , plus part-time use in the interim ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For me, the purpose is to have an ebook reader (that I can read in portrait and landscape equally well), media player, web surfer, and presentation maker/presenter all in one lightweight device.
I don't own an iphone, laptop or ipod, and I have no desire to carry a netbook where I'm forced to carry around a keyboard I'll use maybe 5\% of the time.
I want a multitouch device that makes it painless to purchase and use videos, music and books, and one with enough battery life to survive a full working day (mostly, the commute at each end, plus part-time use in the interim).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070162</id>
	<title>You can already VPN on the iPod, so LIKELY yes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265715960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Settings - General - Network - VPN - Add VPN Configuration</p><p>Or is that "not the VPN you are looking for" ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Settings - General - Network - VPN - Add VPN ConfigurationOr is that " not the VPN you are looking for " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Settings - General - Network - VPN - Add VPN ConfigurationOr is that "not the VPN you are looking for" ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071086</id>
	<title>Re:The lack of FLASH is a PR-Stunt!</title>
	<author>kannibal\_klown</author>
	<datestamp>1265725800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Mark my words, Apple are renown for their PR-stunts.</p><p>By getting everyone upset, a simple thing like the obvious lack of Flash, which is severely needed for a proper Surfing Experience that the iPad is made for, this is nothing but a PR-STUNT, ingenious -  I have to admit - because it'll make you and other RAVE on forever and critique iPad &amp; Apple = Free publicity, and of course - shortly after iPad has been launched, Apple will timely announce that Flash is coming - after all, they have "listened" to their "audience".</p></div><p>I don't disagree on any of your points in particular.  It seems like a Jobs thing to do.</p><p>But the iPhone has been out for how long now?  And no Flash support on that.</p><p>In the end this thing looks like a jumbo-sized iPhone, perhaps with a slightly faster cpu/gpu setup.</p><p>I really don't get all the hype around this thing anyway.  I like Apple products, but this thing is so flippin' boring yet customers and the media alike are chanting "iPad" like it was the second coming.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mark my words , Apple are renown for their PR-stunts.By getting everyone upset , a simple thing like the obvious lack of Flash , which is severely needed for a proper Surfing Experience that the iPad is made for , this is nothing but a PR-STUNT , ingenious - I have to admit - because it 'll make you and other RAVE on forever and critique iPad &amp; Apple = Free publicity , and of course - shortly after iPad has been launched , Apple will timely announce that Flash is coming - after all , they have " listened " to their " audience " .I do n't disagree on any of your points in particular .
It seems like a Jobs thing to do.But the iPhone has been out for how long now ?
And no Flash support on that.In the end this thing looks like a jumbo-sized iPhone , perhaps with a slightly faster cpu/gpu setup.I really do n't get all the hype around this thing anyway .
I like Apple products , but this thing is so flippin ' boring yet customers and the media alike are chanting " iPad " like it was the second coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mark my words, Apple are renown for their PR-stunts.By getting everyone upset, a simple thing like the obvious lack of Flash, which is severely needed for a proper Surfing Experience that the iPad is made for, this is nothing but a PR-STUNT, ingenious -  I have to admit - because it'll make you and other RAVE on forever and critique iPad &amp; Apple = Free publicity, and of course - shortly after iPad has been launched, Apple will timely announce that Flash is coming - after all, they have "listened" to their "audience".I don't disagree on any of your points in particular.
It seems like a Jobs thing to do.But the iPhone has been out for how long now?
And no Flash support on that.In the end this thing looks like a jumbo-sized iPhone, perhaps with a slightly faster cpu/gpu setup.I really don't get all the hype around this thing anyway.
I like Apple products, but this thing is so flippin' boring yet customers and the media alike are chanting "iPad" like it was the second coming.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31076856</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>donstenk</author>
	<datestamp>1265749080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes. Our sales people will use it to give presentations whilst on the road.</p><p>Simplicity and hopefully a great screen will make for a perfect mobile presentation platform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
Our sales people will use it to give presentations whilst on the road.Simplicity and hopefully a great screen will make for a perfect mobile presentation platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
Our sales people will use it to give presentations whilst on the road.Simplicity and hopefully a great screen will make for a perfect mobile presentation platform.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070348</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070384</id>
	<title>Re:Just pollin'</title>
	<author>ducomputergeek</author>
	<datestamp>1265718900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It fits our needs.  We have a web-based application that our sales people need to demo.  A cell card for each rep is $60 a month for 5GB.  Laptop is another $850 - $1300 depending on what they get.  The iPad has unlimited data for $30 per month and has everything we need for sales reps to do demos.  We already have an iPhone app for them to process sales.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It fits our needs .
We have a web-based application that our sales people need to demo .
A cell card for each rep is $ 60 a month for 5GB .
Laptop is another $ 850 - $ 1300 depending on what they get .
The iPad has unlimited data for $ 30 per month and has everything we need for sales reps to do demos .
We already have an iPhone app for them to process sales .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It fits our needs.
We have a web-based application that our sales people need to demo.
A cell card for each rep is $60 a month for 5GB.
Laptop is another $850 - $1300 depending on what they get.
The iPad has unlimited data for $30 per month and has everything we need for sales reps to do demos.
We already have an iPhone app for them to process sales.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31075136</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1265742960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tablet PCs are actually popular in one industry the iPad can never possibly take over from: healthcare.</p><p>Who knows, though, maybe healthcare software makers will start loading the iPad up with software and make it a viable competitor in that space. I doubt it though. More likely, the iPad will just inspire healthcare workers to prefer lighter tablets (like MSI's upcoming one) still running Windows instead of the heavier ones they carry now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tablet PCs are actually popular in one industry the iPad can never possibly take over from : healthcare.Who knows , though , maybe healthcare software makers will start loading the iPad up with software and make it a viable competitor in that space .
I doubt it though .
More likely , the iPad will just inspire healthcare workers to prefer lighter tablets ( like MSI 's upcoming one ) still running Windows instead of the heavier ones they carry now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tablet PCs are actually popular in one industry the iPad can never possibly take over from: healthcare.Who knows, though, maybe healthcare software makers will start loading the iPad up with software and make it a viable competitor in that space.
I doubt it though.
More likely, the iPad will just inspire healthcare workers to prefer lighter tablets (like MSI's upcoming one) still running Windows instead of the heavier ones they carry now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072482</id>
	<title>Glorified digital frame for your crappy iPhotos</title>
	<author>gravy.jones</author>
	<datestamp>1265733120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a glorified digital frame for your crappy iPhotos</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a glorified digital frame for your crappy iPhotos</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a glorified digital frame for your crappy iPhotos</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072234</id>
	<title>My questions</title>
	<author>proxima</author>
	<datestamp>1265731980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps someone with access to the SDK can answer the first or second.</p><p>1.) Does the pixel doubling of iphone apps include all text rendering?</p><p>2.) Is the PDF viewing app built in any good?  Can it remove margins or doing any kind of annotations?</p><p>3.) Will Apple do anything to block an ipad-specific Kindle app or Barnes and Noble app from the App Store?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps someone with access to the SDK can answer the first or second.1 .
) Does the pixel doubling of iphone apps include all text rendering ? 2 .
) Is the PDF viewing app built in any good ?
Can it remove margins or doing any kind of annotations ? 3 .
) Will Apple do anything to block an ipad-specific Kindle app or Barnes and Noble app from the App Store ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps someone with access to the SDK can answer the first or second.1.
) Does the pixel doubling of iphone apps include all text rendering?2.
) Is the PDF viewing app built in any good?
Can it remove margins or doing any kind of annotations?3.
) Will Apple do anything to block an ipad-specific Kindle app or Barnes and Noble app from the App Store?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073236</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265736120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not dishonest.  Computers have file systems, virus scanners, drivers, etc.  Most people don't give a shit about that stuff and it really just makes them confused and think computers are hard to use.  The benefit of using the iPhone OS is to eliminate most of that stuff and quit pestering the user with useless crap that only geeks care about.  You don't need Finder or Windows Explorer - most users really think their Excel files are inside Excel, not in the file system.  Free installation of software just opens you up to having malware.<br>
&nbsp; <br>I can completely see the point of dumbing the whole thing down.  It might make my mom capable of owning one without the need for tech support, which would be awesome for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not dishonest .
Computers have file systems , virus scanners , drivers , etc .
Most people do n't give a shit about that stuff and it really just makes them confused and think computers are hard to use .
The benefit of using the iPhone OS is to eliminate most of that stuff and quit pestering the user with useless crap that only geeks care about .
You do n't need Finder or Windows Explorer - most users really think their Excel files are inside Excel , not in the file system .
Free installation of software just opens you up to having malware .
  I can completely see the point of dumbing the whole thing down .
It might make my mom capable of owning one without the need for tech support , which would be awesome for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not dishonest.
Computers have file systems, virus scanners, drivers, etc.
Most people don't give a shit about that stuff and it really just makes them confused and think computers are hard to use.
The benefit of using the iPhone OS is to eliminate most of that stuff and quit pestering the user with useless crap that only geeks care about.
You don't need Finder or Windows Explorer - most users really think their Excel files are inside Excel, not in the file system.
Free installation of software just opens you up to having malware.
  I can completely see the point of dumbing the whole thing down.
It might make my mom capable of owning one without the need for tech support, which would be awesome for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073960</id>
	<title>Re:seat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265738460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sigh, when do people get it.</p></div><p>That's the only relevant part of your post. However we are talking about different things. What you, and the majority of people posting here, don't get is that people want a simple interface. They want fewer choices. They want to be able to make simple decisions of what to do.</p><p>I have a TV. It has HDMI, it has component, it has VGA, it has SCART. I have cable STB which can output three of these. Now I know to use HDMI, but that's because I'm into technology. Not everyone knows, they have all of these different connectors, which is the best to use?</p><p>I have a PC laptop. It has serial, a mouse connector, and USB. What type of mouse should I buy to connect to it? More complicated questions for anyone that doesn't have a good grasp on technology.</p><p>What the geeks here don't get is that choice can be confusing. A vast array of different choices is a barrier to a lot of people. It challenges them to pick the right one when they don't have the requisite knowledge to make an informed choice. You can argue that they should get that knowledge but that's both elitist and unnecessary. As technologists it should be our aim to make technology more accessible not less. Apple get this, slashdot by and large doesn't.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sigh , when do people get it.That 's the only relevant part of your post .
However we are talking about different things .
What you , and the majority of people posting here , do n't get is that people want a simple interface .
They want fewer choices .
They want to be able to make simple decisions of what to do.I have a TV .
It has HDMI , it has component , it has VGA , it has SCART .
I have cable STB which can output three of these .
Now I know to use HDMI , but that 's because I 'm into technology .
Not everyone knows , they have all of these different connectors , which is the best to use ? I have a PC laptop .
It has serial , a mouse connector , and USB .
What type of mouse should I buy to connect to it ?
More complicated questions for anyone that does n't have a good grasp on technology.What the geeks here do n't get is that choice can be confusing .
A vast array of different choices is a barrier to a lot of people .
It challenges them to pick the right one when they do n't have the requisite knowledge to make an informed choice .
You can argue that they should get that knowledge but that 's both elitist and unnecessary .
As technologists it should be our aim to make technology more accessible not less .
Apple get this , slashdot by and large does n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sigh, when do people get it.That's the only relevant part of your post.
However we are talking about different things.
What you, and the majority of people posting here, don't get is that people want a simple interface.
They want fewer choices.
They want to be able to make simple decisions of what to do.I have a TV.
It has HDMI, it has component, it has VGA, it has SCART.
I have cable STB which can output three of these.
Now I know to use HDMI, but that's because I'm into technology.
Not everyone knows, they have all of these different connectors, which is the best to use?I have a PC laptop.
It has serial, a mouse connector, and USB.
What type of mouse should I buy to connect to it?
More complicated questions for anyone that doesn't have a good grasp on technology.What the geeks here don't get is that choice can be confusing.
A vast array of different choices is a barrier to a lot of people.
It challenges them to pick the right one when they don't have the requisite knowledge to make an informed choice.
You can argue that they should get that knowledge but that's both elitist and unnecessary.
As technologists it should be our aim to make technology more accessible not less.
Apple get this, slashdot by and large doesn't.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070132</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070196</id>
	<title>iPhone XL/iPod XL</title>
	<author>DikSeaCup</author>
	<datestamp>1265716440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's all I really see this as.  There's something to be said for that, and I think this is the kind of device I'd be using while spending time in the bathroom (I use my Palm Pre there now, but if it had a larger screen, it'd be nice).  But that's about it.  Maybe it could replace the laptop while sitting in front of the TV, but not until everything that's flash based that I use (IE games on Facebook) was able to run on the iPad, one way or the other<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's all I really see this as .
There 's something to be said for that , and I think this is the kind of device I 'd be using while spending time in the bathroom ( I use my Palm Pre there now , but if it had a larger screen , it 'd be nice ) .
But that 's about it .
Maybe it could replace the laptop while sitting in front of the TV , but not until everything that 's flash based that I use ( IE games on Facebook ) was able to run on the iPad , one way or the other .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's all I really see this as.
There's something to be said for that, and I think this is the kind of device I'd be using while spending time in the bathroom (I use my Palm Pre there now, but if it had a larger screen, it'd be nice).
But that's about it.
Maybe it could replace the laptop while sitting in front of the TV, but not until everything that's flash based that I use (IE games on Facebook) was able to run on the iPad, one way or the other ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071218</id>
	<title>Does it run linux?</title>
	<author>Ivan Stepaniuk</author>
	<datestamp>1265726520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, this is the only answer I would like to hear. For the rest, iPad is just a newer, bigger iPhone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , this is the only answer I would like to hear .
For the rest , iPad is just a newer , bigger iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, this is the only answer I would like to hear.
For the rest, iPad is just a newer, bigger iPhone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31097796</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265889240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its a really new appliance that opens new possibilites, like the Jobs said in opening statement:</p><p>A) it UNIFIES access to ALL media: books, magazines, music, radio, telephone (once VoIP is there), film, video snippets, gaming, utility</p><p>B) it is a BOOK containing, therefore, all of human knowledge in one flat handy little cheap screen: all web, books, etc are within it == potentially the biggest invention/result of 21st century (and logical advance after internet).</p><p>C) it is an appliance for the rest of the world, those that are no geeks and do not like to use computers.</p><p>==</p><p>So relax, wait and see: if done well, the Apple style - this is another world redefining product.</p><p>cheers, Ulthien</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its a really new appliance that opens new possibilites , like the Jobs said in opening statement : A ) it UNIFIES access to ALL media : books , magazines , music , radio , telephone ( once VoIP is there ) , film , video snippets , gaming , utilityB ) it is a BOOK containing , therefore , all of human knowledge in one flat handy little cheap screen : all web , books , etc are within it = = potentially the biggest invention/result of 21st century ( and logical advance after internet ) .C ) it is an appliance for the rest of the world , those that are no geeks and do not like to use computers. = = So relax , wait and see : if done well , the Apple style - this is another world redefining product.cheers , Ulthien</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its a really new appliance that opens new possibilites, like the Jobs said in opening statement:A) it UNIFIES access to ALL media: books, magazines, music, radio, telephone (once VoIP is there), film, video snippets, gaming, utilityB) it is a BOOK containing, therefore, all of human knowledge in one flat handy little cheap screen: all web, books, etc are within it == potentially the biggest invention/result of 21st century (and logical advance after internet).C) it is an appliance for the rest of the world, those that are no geeks and do not like to use computers.==So relax, wait and see: if done well, the Apple style - this is another world redefining product.cheers, Ulthien</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073406</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>wfolta</author>
	<datestamp>1265736720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.</p><p>Tablets have stumbled for a decade because they have taken a desktop OS with desktop metaphors and forced it down into a smaller, leaner form factor. Result = fail. They then retreat into specialized apps that hide this stupid OS/UI choice, which condemns them to professional niches like doctors offices.</p><p>Apple has taken the design and metaphors of a very popular pocketable device and is scaling them up.</p><p>Which design would my parents prefer? Which design would I prefer when I want to sit on the couch (or on an airplane) and watch a video, browse the web, handle a bit of email, and read a book?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes.Tablets have stumbled for a decade because they have taken a desktop OS with desktop metaphors and forced it down into a smaller , leaner form factor .
Result = fail .
They then retreat into specialized apps that hide this stupid OS/UI choice , which condemns them to professional niches like doctors offices.Apple has taken the design and metaphors of a very popular pocketable device and is scaling them up.Which design would my parents prefer ?
Which design would I prefer when I want to sit on the couch ( or on an airplane ) and watch a video , browse the web , handle a bit of email , and read a book ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.Tablets have stumbled for a decade because they have taken a desktop OS with desktop metaphors and forced it down into a smaller, leaner form factor.
Result = fail.
They then retreat into specialized apps that hide this stupid OS/UI choice, which condemns them to professional niches like doctors offices.Apple has taken the design and metaphors of a very popular pocketable device and is scaling them up.Which design would my parents prefer?
Which design would I prefer when I want to sit on the couch (or on an airplane) and watch a video, browse the web, handle a bit of email, and read a book?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070296</id>
	<title>The lack of FLASH is a PR-Stunt!</title>
	<author>MindPrison</author>
	<datestamp>1265717700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mark my words, Apple are renown for their PR-stunts.</p><p>By getting everyone upset, a simple thing like the obvious lack of Flash, which is severely needed for a proper Surfing Experience that the iPad is made for, this is nothing but a PR-STUNT, ingenious -  I have to admit - because it'll make you and other RAVE on forever and critique iPad &amp; Apple = Free publicity, and of course - shortly after iPad has been launched, Apple will timely announce that Flash is coming - after all, they have "listened" to their "audience".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mark my words , Apple are renown for their PR-stunts.By getting everyone upset , a simple thing like the obvious lack of Flash , which is severely needed for a proper Surfing Experience that the iPad is made for , this is nothing but a PR-STUNT , ingenious - I have to admit - because it 'll make you and other RAVE on forever and critique iPad &amp; Apple = Free publicity , and of course - shortly after iPad has been launched , Apple will timely announce that Flash is coming - after all , they have " listened " to their " audience " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mark my words, Apple are renown for their PR-stunts.By getting everyone upset, a simple thing like the obvious lack of Flash, which is severely needed for a proper Surfing Experience that the iPad is made for, this is nothing but a PR-STUNT, ingenious -  I have to admit - because it'll make you and other RAVE on forever and critique iPad &amp; Apple = Free publicity, and of course - shortly after iPad has been launched, Apple will timely announce that Flash is coming - after all, they have "listened" to their "audience".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072086</id>
	<title>Give me a break...</title>
	<author>QuietLagoon</author>
	<datestamp>1265731320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The InfoWorld article is little more than a third-rate writer looking to create a news story.  Unfortunately, the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. crowd fell for it.  Hook, line and sinker.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The InfoWorld article is little more than a third-rate writer looking to create a news story .
Unfortunately , the / .
crowd fell for it .
Hook , line and sinker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The InfoWorld article is little more than a third-rate writer looking to create a news story.
Unfortunately, the /.
crowd fell for it.
Hook, line and sinker.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070424</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>ducomputergeek</author>
	<datestamp>1265719380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really, for people like me.  I don't do a lot of coding anymore.  I don't need to lug around a laptop and a cell card ($60 per month for 5GB).  What I need is the ability to do email, product demos (of a web based product), and occasionally make minor document edits.  And be able to SSH into a server if things go really bad.  I've been using my iPhone.  It works well for the email and to demo the mobile version of our app, but editing documents and while I've used SSH in a real pinch, let's just say it's not ideal.</p><p>iPad is exactly what I need.  Then I can keep the laptop in the car and cancel the cell card and get one of these.  It's about time to replace my nearly 6 year old 12.1" powerbook.</p><p>And with a VNC app, I can't see why I can't remote in to my laptop or desktop with the thing.  I can do it on my iPhone, should be better on the iPad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , for people like me .
I do n't do a lot of coding anymore .
I do n't need to lug around a laptop and a cell card ( $ 60 per month for 5GB ) .
What I need is the ability to do email , product demos ( of a web based product ) , and occasionally make minor document edits .
And be able to SSH into a server if things go really bad .
I 've been using my iPhone .
It works well for the email and to demo the mobile version of our app , but editing documents and while I 've used SSH in a real pinch , let 's just say it 's not ideal.iPad is exactly what I need .
Then I can keep the laptop in the car and cancel the cell card and get one of these .
It 's about time to replace my nearly 6 year old 12.1 " powerbook.And with a VNC app , I ca n't see why I ca n't remote in to my laptop or desktop with the thing .
I can do it on my iPhone , should be better on the iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, for people like me.
I don't do a lot of coding anymore.
I don't need to lug around a laptop and a cell card ($60 per month for 5GB).
What I need is the ability to do email, product demos (of a web based product), and occasionally make minor document edits.
And be able to SSH into a server if things go really bad.
I've been using my iPhone.
It works well for the email and to demo the mobile version of our app, but editing documents and while I've used SSH in a real pinch, let's just say it's not ideal.iPad is exactly what I need.
Then I can keep the laptop in the car and cancel the cell card and get one of these.
It's about time to replace my nearly 6 year old 12.1" powerbook.And with a VNC app, I can't see why I can't remote in to my laptop or desktop with the thing.
I can do it on my iPhone, should be better on the iPad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31074304</id>
	<title>Re:Baby steps make a product more successful</title>
	<author>Sandbags</author>
	<datestamp>1265739780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll add, by creating a less than perfect product, Apple doesn't need to spend billions on a risk that it won;t be perfect.  It's not just about designing a great product, it;s about being able to meet the DEMAND for it, which is a huge logistics and manufacturing mess, and its simple not possible to build 30 million of a brand new, secret device, in it's first calendar year.  It's also not possible to hire enough additional support staff, and train them to Apple's high standards, that fast.</p><p>Apple is VERY comfortable (and so are their shareholders) with steady 30-50\% growth year over year.  They can't handle the mass influx of millions of users in a short span.  This is the PRIMARY reason OS X is not available in a full retail version.  Contrary to the belief apple would make less money if the sold software only, the Economics of it show otherwise, assuming a $329/copy license fee for 3-5 machines), the issue is the doubling or tippling of the user base in a short span, most of which would not be existing Mac users, and be on disparate or incompatible hardware (Apple would publish a clear and concise HCL, but many people would ignore it and try installing on unsupported hardware or under-performing hardware), and a doubling in user base this way could be 4 or 5 times the support load.  Apple simply can not accomodate that and remain on a high support quality level, and the will NOT saccrifice offering support on their OS just to put it in a box.</p><p>Apple is the 3rd largest tech firm in the world in terms of profit and cash in the bank.  They're growing steady, stockholders like that, and eventually they'll convert larger and larger percentages as they comfortably grow the support staff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll add , by creating a less than perfect product , Apple does n't need to spend billions on a risk that it won ; t be perfect .
It 's not just about designing a great product , it ; s about being able to meet the DEMAND for it , which is a huge logistics and manufacturing mess , and its simple not possible to build 30 million of a brand new , secret device , in it 's first calendar year .
It 's also not possible to hire enough additional support staff , and train them to Apple 's high standards , that fast.Apple is VERY comfortable ( and so are their shareholders ) with steady 30-50 \ % growth year over year .
They ca n't handle the mass influx of millions of users in a short span .
This is the PRIMARY reason OS X is not available in a full retail version .
Contrary to the belief apple would make less money if the sold software only , the Economics of it show otherwise , assuming a $ 329/copy license fee for 3-5 machines ) , the issue is the doubling or tippling of the user base in a short span , most of which would not be existing Mac users , and be on disparate or incompatible hardware ( Apple would publish a clear and concise HCL , but many people would ignore it and try installing on unsupported hardware or under-performing hardware ) , and a doubling in user base this way could be 4 or 5 times the support load .
Apple simply can not accomodate that and remain on a high support quality level , and the will NOT saccrifice offering support on their OS just to put it in a box.Apple is the 3rd largest tech firm in the world in terms of profit and cash in the bank .
They 're growing steady , stockholders like that , and eventually they 'll convert larger and larger percentages as they comfortably grow the support staff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll add, by creating a less than perfect product, Apple doesn't need to spend billions on a risk that it won;t be perfect.
It's not just about designing a great product, it;s about being able to meet the DEMAND for it, which is a huge logistics and manufacturing mess, and its simple not possible to build 30 million of a brand new, secret device, in it's first calendar year.
It's also not possible to hire enough additional support staff, and train them to Apple's high standards, that fast.Apple is VERY comfortable (and so are their shareholders) with steady 30-50\% growth year over year.
They can't handle the mass influx of millions of users in a short span.
This is the PRIMARY reason OS X is not available in a full retail version.
Contrary to the belief apple would make less money if the sold software only, the Economics of it show otherwise, assuming a $329/copy license fee for 3-5 machines), the issue is the doubling or tippling of the user base in a short span, most of which would not be existing Mac users, and be on disparate or incompatible hardware (Apple would publish a clear and concise HCL, but many people would ignore it and try installing on unsupported hardware or under-performing hardware), and a doubling in user base this way could be 4 or 5 times the support load.
Apple simply can not accomodate that and remain on a high support quality level, and the will NOT saccrifice offering support on their OS just to put it in a box.Apple is the 3rd largest tech firm in the world in terms of profit and cash in the bank.
They're growing steady, stockholders like that, and eventually they'll convert larger and larger percentages as they comfortably grow the support staff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070706</id>
	<title>The Real Big Answer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265722500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple?</p><p>No.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple ? No .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple?No.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31095224</id>
	<title>Timing</title>
	<author>konohitowa</author>
	<datestamp>1265041980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPad is exactly everything I need for a college computation platform minus one thing -- it won't deliver in time to be useful to me this semester. So I'll wait until the Fall to buy one.</p><p>I use my iPhone for 90\% of my mobile computing needs, but I wish the screen was bigger. I could bring a laptop along, but it's more weight/size than I want to carry -- netbook included. The iPad fits right in between those two for me. I already have Kindle reader on my iPhone, I use OmniFocus for my organization, and of course there's web browsing and email. Putting that together with Keynote (for presentations) and I'm good to go.</p><p>I did find the "questions" a little odd. The mail app on the iPhone does Exchange. And I can access docs on my iPhone also (which *does* require a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.Mac account that many wouldn't be willing to pay for -- so that's not a complete answer).</p><p>Anyway -- it's going to have the full iWork suite. One would think those documents would have to live somewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad is exactly everything I need for a college computation platform minus one thing -- it wo n't deliver in time to be useful to me this semester .
So I 'll wait until the Fall to buy one.I use my iPhone for 90 \ % of my mobile computing needs , but I wish the screen was bigger .
I could bring a laptop along , but it 's more weight/size than I want to carry -- netbook included .
The iPad fits right in between those two for me .
I already have Kindle reader on my iPhone , I use OmniFocus for my organization , and of course there 's web browsing and email .
Putting that together with Keynote ( for presentations ) and I 'm good to go.I did find the " questions " a little odd .
The mail app on the iPhone does Exchange .
And I can access docs on my iPhone also ( which * does * require a .Mac account that many would n't be willing to pay for -- so that 's not a complete answer ) .Anyway -- it 's going to have the full iWork suite .
One would think those documents would have to live somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad is exactly everything I need for a college computation platform minus one thing -- it won't deliver in time to be useful to me this semester.
So I'll wait until the Fall to buy one.I use my iPhone for 90\% of my mobile computing needs, but I wish the screen was bigger.
I could bring a laptop along, but it's more weight/size than I want to carry -- netbook included.
The iPad fits right in between those two for me.
I already have Kindle reader on my iPhone, I use OmniFocus for my organization, and of course there's web browsing and email.
Putting that together with Keynote (for presentations) and I'm good to go.I did find the "questions" a little odd.
The mail app on the iPhone does Exchange.
And I can access docs on my iPhone also (which *does* require a .Mac account that many wouldn't be willing to pay for -- so that's not a complete answer).Anyway -- it's going to have the full iWork suite.
One would think those documents would have to live somewhere.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070614</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1265721540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The most important question is "Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find?"</p></div><p>Tablet mfgrs have never tried shipping a box with an attached video/music store.  Also, I'm assuming the ipod touch/iphone apps will work on the ipad, meaning it ships with one zillion useful apps, as opposed to the usual tablet that ships with no apps.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The most important question is " Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find ?
" Tablet mfgrs have never tried shipping a box with an attached video/music store .
Also , I 'm assuming the ipod touch/iphone apps will work on the ipad , meaning it ships with one zillion useful apps , as opposed to the usual tablet that ships with no apps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most important question is "Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find?
"Tablet mfgrs have never tried shipping a box with an attached video/music store.
Also, I'm assuming the ipod touch/iphone apps will work on the ipad, meaning it ships with one zillion useful apps, as opposed to the usual tablet that ships with no apps.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070244</id>
	<title>Re:Just pollin'</title>
	<author>BlackCreek</author>
	<datestamp>1265716920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a e-reader (Hanlin v3) which I use and like a lot.</p><p>I won't go into the merits of e-books and e-readers, they are not for everyone. But as a recent research shows <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/e-reader-statisfaction-study-shows-93-percent-of-users-are-happy/" title="engadget.com">there is a target market that loves it</a> [engadget.com].  Many e-readers I've read reviews about are great but all are still seriously lacking (as reading devices). So most users I know of would like to have something even better to use for **reading**.</p><p>But the ipad thing has this LCD screen of sorts, I don't doubt many Steve Jobs fans will buy into the hype, and try to replace e-readers with the ipad, but I do doubt that this ipad can be used as comfortably for actual reading. What I do hope for, is that this will get other companies to produce better dedicated e-ink readers. I know I can use one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a e-reader ( Hanlin v3 ) which I use and like a lot.I wo n't go into the merits of e-books and e-readers , they are not for everyone .
But as a recent research shows there is a target market that loves it [ engadget.com ] .
Many e-readers I 've read reviews about are great but all are still seriously lacking ( as reading devices ) .
So most users I know of would like to have something even better to use for * * reading * * .But the ipad thing has this LCD screen of sorts , I do n't doubt many Steve Jobs fans will buy into the hype , and try to replace e-readers with the ipad , but I do doubt that this ipad can be used as comfortably for actual reading .
What I do hope for , is that this will get other companies to produce better dedicated e-ink readers .
I know I can use one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a e-reader (Hanlin v3) which I use and like a lot.I won't go into the merits of e-books and e-readers, they are not for everyone.
But as a recent research shows there is a target market that loves it [engadget.com].
Many e-readers I've read reviews about are great but all are still seriously lacking (as reading devices).
So most users I know of would like to have something even better to use for **reading**.But the ipad thing has this LCD screen of sorts, I don't doubt many Steve Jobs fans will buy into the hype, and try to replace e-readers with the ipad, but I do doubt that this ipad can be used as comfortably for actual reading.
What I do hope for, is that this will get other companies to produce better dedicated e-ink readers.
I know I can use one.</sentencetext>
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	<title>I hate these articles</title>
	<author>MistrBlank</author>
	<datestamp>1265740560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>This is just another attempt to trash the iPad.  This is irresponsible journalism, this is a "here's what Apple didn't say, so it doesn't do it" article.  That type of argument is a fallacy.</p><p>I'm also tired of the iPad thrashing.  People said the same thing about the iPhone and suddenly it was the developers of the apps that showed us why we need this, not Apple.  That just needs to happen again. I will say that Apple's press conference may have left us very high and dry in terms of system specs and what it can do, but the problem is it is just a platform and what these journalists don't understand is that it's built on the same fundamentals as the iPhone or iPod touch.  What you can do there, you can do here, and maybe better given the power and size of the screen on this devices.  I've already heard of case worker proposals, medical field proposals, management applications.  The problem is really in the perception that this device needs to be the replacement for the iPhone or the laptop and it doesn't.  I want one and plan to upgrade to one when I decide to purchase my MacBook upgrade later this year, I also don't suspect I'll be giving up my iPhone anytime soon either (though I may trash the Data plan on it).</p><p>I'm sorry, if you can't see why the world can benefit from this device, I can't help that you're unimaginative.  The number of applications where this device WOULD be beneficial is outstanding, the problem is that the world still hasn't grasped as a whole.  The world still hasn't grasped what we can do with the additions that were part of the last keynote and iPhoneOS 3.1.  There are still applications and device integrations that haven't happened, simply because no one is trying or shown the world that killer application, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.</p><p>Worrying about exchange support is silly, of course it will be there, Snow Leopard supports it and iPhoneOS supports it.  There's no reason to expect it to not be supported.  Worrying about file transfer in a traditional manner is silly at best as well.  We've already seen that it can be done and worrying about</p><p>What I would worry about is why the device doesn't sync wirelessly through WLAN or Bluetooth (even if only to a Mac).  But if you want to know why Apple isn't saying anything, it's more than likely they are not binding themselves to anything because the device isn't done yet, whether it be an incomplete OS or hardware.  So stop trying to kill this before it takes off because you don't want one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just another attempt to trash the iPad .
This is irresponsible journalism , this is a " here 's what Apple did n't say , so it does n't do it " article .
That type of argument is a fallacy.I 'm also tired of the iPad thrashing .
People said the same thing about the iPhone and suddenly it was the developers of the apps that showed us why we need this , not Apple .
That just needs to happen again .
I will say that Apple 's press conference may have left us very high and dry in terms of system specs and what it can do , but the problem is it is just a platform and what these journalists do n't understand is that it 's built on the same fundamentals as the iPhone or iPod touch .
What you can do there , you can do here , and maybe better given the power and size of the screen on this devices .
I 've already heard of case worker proposals , medical field proposals , management applications .
The problem is really in the perception that this device needs to be the replacement for the iPhone or the laptop and it does n't .
I want one and plan to upgrade to one when I decide to purchase my MacBook upgrade later this year , I also do n't suspect I 'll be giving up my iPhone anytime soon either ( though I may trash the Data plan on it ) .I 'm sorry , if you ca n't see why the world can benefit from this device , I ca n't help that you 're unimaginative .
The number of applications where this device WOULD be beneficial is outstanding , the problem is that the world still has n't grasped as a whole .
The world still has n't grasped what we can do with the additions that were part of the last keynote and iPhoneOS 3.1 .
There are still applications and device integrations that have n't happened , simply because no one is trying or shown the world that killer application , but that does n't mean it is n't there.Worrying about exchange support is silly , of course it will be there , Snow Leopard supports it and iPhoneOS supports it .
There 's no reason to expect it to not be supported .
Worrying about file transfer in a traditional manner is silly at best as well .
We 've already seen that it can be done and worrying aboutWhat I would worry about is why the device does n't sync wirelessly through WLAN or Bluetooth ( even if only to a Mac ) .
But if you want to know why Apple is n't saying anything , it 's more than likely they are not binding themselves to anything because the device is n't done yet , whether it be an incomplete OS or hardware .
So stop trying to kill this before it takes off because you do n't want one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just another attempt to trash the iPad.
This is irresponsible journalism, this is a "here's what Apple didn't say, so it doesn't do it" article.
That type of argument is a fallacy.I'm also tired of the iPad thrashing.
People said the same thing about the iPhone and suddenly it was the developers of the apps that showed us why we need this, not Apple.
That just needs to happen again.
I will say that Apple's press conference may have left us very high and dry in terms of system specs and what it can do, but the problem is it is just a platform and what these journalists don't understand is that it's built on the same fundamentals as the iPhone or iPod touch.
What you can do there, you can do here, and maybe better given the power and size of the screen on this devices.
I've already heard of case worker proposals, medical field proposals, management applications.
The problem is really in the perception that this device needs to be the replacement for the iPhone or the laptop and it doesn't.
I want one and plan to upgrade to one when I decide to purchase my MacBook upgrade later this year, I also don't suspect I'll be giving up my iPhone anytime soon either (though I may trash the Data plan on it).I'm sorry, if you can't see why the world can benefit from this device, I can't help that you're unimaginative.
The number of applications where this device WOULD be beneficial is outstanding, the problem is that the world still hasn't grasped as a whole.
The world still hasn't grasped what we can do with the additions that were part of the last keynote and iPhoneOS 3.1.
There are still applications and device integrations that haven't happened, simply because no one is trying or shown the world that killer application, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.Worrying about exchange support is silly, of course it will be there, Snow Leopard supports it and iPhoneOS supports it.
There's no reason to expect it to not be supported.
Worrying about file transfer in a traditional manner is silly at best as well.
We've already seen that it can be done and worrying aboutWhat I would worry about is why the device doesn't sync wirelessly through WLAN or Bluetooth (even if only to a Mac).
But if you want to know why Apple isn't saying anything, it's more than likely they are not binding themselves to anything because the device isn't done yet, whether it be an incomplete OS or hardware.
So stop trying to kill this before it takes off because you don't want one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070268</id>
	<title>questions...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265717280000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I think the question that ought to be asked is; Will the iPad firmware have holes in it, so it can be jailbroken and get Rock installed on it, to further allow 3rd party software to be installed?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the question that ought to be asked is ; Will the iPad firmware have holes in it , so it can be jailbroken and get Rock installed on it , to further allow 3rd party software to be installed ?
: ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the question that ought to be asked is; Will the iPad firmware have holes in it, so it can be jailbroken and get Rock installed on it, to further allow 3rd party software to be installed?
:]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070864</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>jittles</author>
	<datestamp>1265724060000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>VPN capabilities on the iPhone are terrible, if you ask me.  You either have to be running Cisco VPN or Microsoft VPN services.  Where is the OpenVPN support?</p><p>
Also, I seriously doubt you'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email.  They don't like to give people access to the internal storage because it makes it easier to find exploits</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>VPN capabilities on the iPhone are terrible , if you ask me .
You either have to be running Cisco VPN or Microsoft VPN services .
Where is the OpenVPN support ?
Also , I seriously doubt you 'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email .
They do n't like to give people access to the internal storage because it makes it easier to find exploits</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VPN capabilities on the iPhone are terrible, if you ask me.
You either have to be running Cisco VPN or Microsoft VPN services.
Where is the OpenVPN support?
Also, I seriously doubt you'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email.
They don't like to give people access to the internal storage because it makes it easier to find exploits</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31093902</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>SethJohnson</author>
	<datestamp>1265033940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Hanky,<br> <br>

I can see that your posts are well-thought out and considered. I'm not cultist or astroturfer. I'm a guy who uses his iPhone extensively to browse the web because it fits better while standing or reclining than a laptop. But I wish it were bigger.<br> <br>
The situation is that there are times when less is more. This is one of those occasions where trade-offs yield a more valuable user experience to me. The iPad establishes a framework- an environment. In this environment, there aren't all the bells and whistles of a full-blown computer. But, you don't have to deal with all the baggage those bells and whistles bring along (see other posts in this thread for a detailed waybill of said baggage).<br> <br>
This is why the iPhone has succeeded so well when Windows Mobile had an incredible head start. The iPhone OS didn't struggle to run on every phone and support a variety of screen sizes. It didn't try to fulfill every request of end-users who have their own pet gee-gaw they want to see implemented. Instead, it established a standard for functionality and enabled developers to build their apps for it. The result has been a lush ecosystem of free and cheap software that is empowering users to do all kinds of crazy things that never were proposed when Windows Mobile was the dominant smartphone OS.
<br> <br>The great thing here is that Google is in the game and they're innovating like crazy. If multitasking is a deal-breaker, then there are several awesome Android phones available. And that pressure is exactly what benefits Apple consumers because it keeps the prices reasonable and the features coming at a steady pace. Without competition, you would see high prices and innovation turn into stagnation.<br> <br>Seth</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hanky , I can see that your posts are well-thought out and considered .
I 'm not cultist or astroturfer .
I 'm a guy who uses his iPhone extensively to browse the web because it fits better while standing or reclining than a laptop .
But I wish it were bigger .
The situation is that there are times when less is more .
This is one of those occasions where trade-offs yield a more valuable user experience to me .
The iPad establishes a framework- an environment .
In this environment , there are n't all the bells and whistles of a full-blown computer .
But , you do n't have to deal with all the baggage those bells and whistles bring along ( see other posts in this thread for a detailed waybill of said baggage ) .
This is why the iPhone has succeeded so well when Windows Mobile had an incredible head start .
The iPhone OS did n't struggle to run on every phone and support a variety of screen sizes .
It did n't try to fulfill every request of end-users who have their own pet gee-gaw they want to see implemented .
Instead , it established a standard for functionality and enabled developers to build their apps for it .
The result has been a lush ecosystem of free and cheap software that is empowering users to do all kinds of crazy things that never were proposed when Windows Mobile was the dominant smartphone OS .
The great thing here is that Google is in the game and they 're innovating like crazy .
If multitasking is a deal-breaker , then there are several awesome Android phones available .
And that pressure is exactly what benefits Apple consumers because it keeps the prices reasonable and the features coming at a steady pace .
Without competition , you would see high prices and innovation turn into stagnation .
Seth</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hanky, 

I can see that your posts are well-thought out and considered.
I'm not cultist or astroturfer.
I'm a guy who uses his iPhone extensively to browse the web because it fits better while standing or reclining than a laptop.
But I wish it were bigger.
The situation is that there are times when less is more.
This is one of those occasions where trade-offs yield a more valuable user experience to me.
The iPad establishes a framework- an environment.
In this environment, there aren't all the bells and whistles of a full-blown computer.
But, you don't have to deal with all the baggage those bells and whistles bring along (see other posts in this thread for a detailed waybill of said baggage).
This is why the iPhone has succeeded so well when Windows Mobile had an incredible head start.
The iPhone OS didn't struggle to run on every phone and support a variety of screen sizes.
It didn't try to fulfill every request of end-users who have their own pet gee-gaw they want to see implemented.
Instead, it established a standard for functionality and enabled developers to build their apps for it.
The result has been a lush ecosystem of free and cheap software that is empowering users to do all kinds of crazy things that never were proposed when Windows Mobile was the dominant smartphone OS.
The great thing here is that Google is in the game and they're innovating like crazy.
If multitasking is a deal-breaker, then there are several awesome Android phones available.
And that pressure is exactly what benefits Apple consumers because it keeps the prices reasonable and the features coming at a steady pace.
Without competition, you would see high prices and innovation turn into stagnation.
Seth</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073612</id>
	<title>Allowing price competition - bad for you???</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1265737320000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><i> Steve is now clearly on the side of content providers. Apple/Steve is the reason why people like Murdoch will be able to charge $14.99 per e-book.</i></p><p>And what makes you think that eBooks will all be $14.99, when anyone is allowed to publish and any publisher can charge what they like?</p><p>The funny thing is you say "Steve is now clearly on the side of content providers" as if it were the problem and not the solution to the problem we have today, which is that some eBooks are too expensive.  The answer of course is to let the market decide the right price for an eBook by letting the publisher experiment with prices,  instead of the store controlling them (as was the case with Amazon).  Yes some books will cost more but over time books will find a reasonable price point.</p><p>The thing is, you see $14.99 as outrageous  - but having done some writing, I say that you have to allow the price to shift to allow for market scale.  If you say no eBook can ever cost more than $9.99, then what is an authors motivation to make a really nice technical book on a niche subject that only a few people will ever want to read?   I have already paid $20 for pdf-only versions of some technical books, happy to do so because of the benefits I gain and to support the author making the book.</p><p>Mass market books, I can see them falling to a more natural price of $9.99 or lower, especially if you are willing to simply wait a half year or so.  Isn't that better than letting the store control when the price drops?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Steve is now clearly on the side of content providers .
Apple/Steve is the reason why people like Murdoch will be able to charge $ 14.99 per e-book.And what makes you think that eBooks will all be $ 14.99 , when anyone is allowed to publish and any publisher can charge what they like ? The funny thing is you say " Steve is now clearly on the side of content providers " as if it were the problem and not the solution to the problem we have today , which is that some eBooks are too expensive .
The answer of course is to let the market decide the right price for an eBook by letting the publisher experiment with prices , instead of the store controlling them ( as was the case with Amazon ) .
Yes some books will cost more but over time books will find a reasonable price point.The thing is , you see $ 14.99 as outrageous - but having done some writing , I say that you have to allow the price to shift to allow for market scale .
If you say no eBook can ever cost more than $ 9.99 , then what is an authors motivation to make a really nice technical book on a niche subject that only a few people will ever want to read ?
I have already paid $ 20 for pdf-only versions of some technical books , happy to do so because of the benefits I gain and to support the author making the book.Mass market books , I can see them falling to a more natural price of $ 9.99 or lower , especially if you are willing to simply wait a half year or so .
Is n't that better than letting the store control when the price drops ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Steve is now clearly on the side of content providers.
Apple/Steve is the reason why people like Murdoch will be able to charge $14.99 per e-book.And what makes you think that eBooks will all be $14.99, when anyone is allowed to publish and any publisher can charge what they like?The funny thing is you say "Steve is now clearly on the side of content providers" as if it were the problem and not the solution to the problem we have today, which is that some eBooks are too expensive.
The answer of course is to let the market decide the right price for an eBook by letting the publisher experiment with prices,  instead of the store controlling them (as was the case with Amazon).
Yes some books will cost more but over time books will find a reasonable price point.The thing is, you see $14.99 as outrageous  - but having done some writing, I say that you have to allow the price to shift to allow for market scale.
If you say no eBook can ever cost more than $9.99, then what is an authors motivation to make a really nice technical book on a niche subject that only a few people will ever want to read?
I have already paid $20 for pdf-only versions of some technical books, happy to do so because of the benefits I gain and to support the author making the book.Mass market books, I can see them falling to a more natural price of $9.99 or lower, especially if you are willing to simply wait a half year or so.
Isn't that better than letting the store control when the price drops?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31075206</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265743140000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They're looking for a media access device that doesn't carry the drawbacks of a computer.</p></div></blockquote><p>That's understandable, but to date, no one has ever suggested any entries for the "drawbacks of a computer" list that wasn't either gutbustingly hilariously wacked out, or intended to deceive.  Computers don't <em>have</em> and drawbacks that a media device won't also have.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're looking for a media access device that does n't carry the drawbacks of a computer.That 's understandable , but to date , no one has ever suggested any entries for the " drawbacks of a computer " list that was n't either gutbustingly hilariously wacked out , or intended to deceive .
Computers do n't have and drawbacks that a media device wo n't also have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're looking for a media access device that doesn't carry the drawbacks of a computer.That's understandable, but to date, no one has ever suggested any entries for the "drawbacks of a computer" list that wasn't either gutbustingly hilariously wacked out, or intended to deceive.
Computers don't have and drawbacks that a media device won't also have.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070540</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>MrHanky</author>
	<datestamp>1265720760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wrong. The Ipad isn't built for Apple's customers, it's built for Apple.</p><p>When you say it "doesn't carry the drawbacks of a computer", you're simply  being dishonest: it would cost <i>nothing</i> in user experience to allow multitasking or free installation of software. A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic, and relatively easily accomplishable. It would come with no extra draw-backs for the user whatsoever. And you know this perfectly well.</p><p>But this would cost <i>Apple</i> a lot, in that a user with choice wouldn't be tied to iTunes. The question is: why are you being dishonest? Apple probably doesn't pay you a cent for your work as a freelance advertising agent. And why is this bullshit so prevalent among Apple fanboys? There's a reason why you guys are called a cult: you are one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wrong .
The Ipad is n't built for Apple 's customers , it 's built for Apple.When you say it " does n't carry the drawbacks of a computer " , you 're simply being dishonest : it would cost nothing in user experience to allow multitasking or free installation of software .
A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic , and relatively easily accomplishable .
It would come with no extra draw-backs for the user whatsoever .
And you know this perfectly well.But this would cost Apple a lot , in that a user with choice would n't be tied to iTunes .
The question is : why are you being dishonest ?
Apple probably does n't pay you a cent for your work as a freelance advertising agent .
And why is this bullshit so prevalent among Apple fanboys ?
There 's a reason why you guys are called a cult : you are one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wrong.
The Ipad isn't built for Apple's customers, it's built for Apple.When you say it "doesn't carry the drawbacks of a computer", you're simply  being dishonest: it would cost nothing in user experience to allow multitasking or free installation of software.
A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic, and relatively easily accomplishable.
It would come with no extra draw-backs for the user whatsoever.
And you know this perfectly well.But this would cost Apple a lot, in that a user with choice wouldn't be tied to iTunes.
The question is: why are you being dishonest?
Apple probably doesn't pay you a cent for your work as a freelance advertising agent.
And why is this bullshit so prevalent among Apple fanboys?
There's a reason why you guys are called a cult: you are one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31076430</id>
	<title>Re:Shouldn't we assume?</title>
	<author>myowntrueself</author>
	<datestamp>1265747340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you hate the iPad then you are just like Hitler!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you hate the iPad then you are just like Hitler !
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you hate the iPad then you are just like Hitler!
:P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071608</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1265728560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Once again, we may have another class of Apple hardware whose most useful feature is being hacked to run alternate operating systems...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Once again , we may have another class of Apple hardware whose most useful feature is being hacked to run alternate operating systems.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once again, we may have another class of Apple hardware whose most useful feature is being hacked to run alternate operating systems...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071700</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>svtdragon</author>
	<datestamp>1265729160000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>iPad Nano?  <br> <br>

And here I've been calling the iPad the "iPhone Macro".</htmltext>
<tokenext>iPad Nano ?
And here I 've been calling the iPad the " iPhone Macro " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPad Nano?
And here I've been calling the iPad the "iPhone Macro".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31079154</id>
	<title>Would rather have a real computer</title>
	<author>Xenophon Fenderson,</author>
	<datestamp>1265715120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I need to replace my 5-year-old laptop and was holding out for a tablet PC until I heard all the iPad rumors.  I was really hoping for a MacBook with a digitizer, like the Modbook, not a scaled up iPod.  I need a highly-portable general-purpose computer that supports drawing and handwriting, not some locked-down reduced-functionality handset that won't fit into my pocket (I mean, thanks, but I already have a BlackBerry).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I need to replace my 5-year-old laptop and was holding out for a tablet PC until I heard all the iPad rumors .
I was really hoping for a MacBook with a digitizer , like the Modbook , not a scaled up iPod .
I need a highly-portable general-purpose computer that supports drawing and handwriting , not some locked-down reduced-functionality handset that wo n't fit into my pocket ( I mean , thanks , but I already have a BlackBerry ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I need to replace my 5-year-old laptop and was holding out for a tablet PC until I heard all the iPad rumors.
I was really hoping for a MacBook with a digitizer, like the Modbook, not a scaled up iPod.
I need a highly-portable general-purpose computer that supports drawing and handwriting, not some locked-down reduced-functionality handset that won't fit into my pocket (I mean, thanks, but I already have a BlackBerry).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31074934</id>
	<title>Re:strawman article</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265742300000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Can the iPad display 8 questions in HTML without having to spread them across 6 pages festooned with advertisements?</p></div><p>It sure can!  Just direct its browser here: <a href="http://infoworld.com/print/111972" title="infoworld.com" rel="nofollow">http://infoworld.com/print/111972</a> [infoworld.com] .  Magical, no?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can the iPad display 8 questions in HTML without having to spread them across 6 pages festooned with advertisements ? It sure can !
Just direct its browser here : http : //infoworld.com/print/111972 [ infoworld.com ] .
Magical , no ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can the iPad display 8 questions in HTML without having to spread them across 6 pages festooned with advertisements?It sure can!
Just direct its browser here: http://infoworld.com/print/111972 [infoworld.com] .
Magical, no?
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070640</id>
	<title>Re:The lack of FLASH is a PR-Stunt!</title>
	<author>jcupitt65</author>
	<datestamp>1265721840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
No, flash is never coming to the iPad/iPhone. It's just not in Apple's interest to have a large chunk of code on there they have no control over.

</p><p>
Apple are pushing html5 and the app store as alternatives and it looks like it'll work out well for them. I'm more inclined to think flash is in trouble: the html5 video players are already better than the flash ones (seeking works! cpu use is way down! they don't stutter! they are easier to develop! you can right-click and save streams!) and that trend is only going to accelerate. Heh, especially if they fix the fullscreen thing.

</p><p>
Once flash loses the video player market (I guess it'll stay as a fallback for a while though) it becomes a lot less important.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , flash is never coming to the iPad/iPhone .
It 's just not in Apple 's interest to have a large chunk of code on there they have no control over .
Apple are pushing html5 and the app store as alternatives and it looks like it 'll work out well for them .
I 'm more inclined to think flash is in trouble : the html5 video players are already better than the flash ones ( seeking works !
cpu use is way down !
they do n't stutter !
they are easier to develop !
you can right-click and save streams !
) and that trend is only going to accelerate .
Heh , especially if they fix the fullscreen thing .
Once flash loses the video player market ( I guess it 'll stay as a fallback for a while though ) it becomes a lot less important .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
No, flash is never coming to the iPad/iPhone.
It's just not in Apple's interest to have a large chunk of code on there they have no control over.
Apple are pushing html5 and the app store as alternatives and it looks like it'll work out well for them.
I'm more inclined to think flash is in trouble: the html5 video players are already better than the flash ones (seeking works!
cpu use is way down!
they don't stutter!
they are easier to develop!
you can right-click and save streams!
) and that trend is only going to accelerate.
Heh, especially if they fix the fullscreen thing.
Once flash loses the video player market (I guess it'll stay as a fallback for a while though) it becomes a lot less important.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070182</id>
	<title>RIC, not FUD</title>
	<author>Dystopian Rebel</author>
	<datestamp>1265716320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alright, I just coined RIC (Real, Important Concerns). Fifteen seconds of blogosphere fame for me.</p><p>There are Macs in my house and I like 'em. I've been with OS X since 10.0.0. But the iPad is a big iPhone. If I wanted to enlarge a mobile phone to create a "netpad", I sure wouldn't pick the iPhone. A phone that runs Android would be more interesting to me.</p><p>I understand that Mr Jobs wants to build a new market by extending an established market. He's good at doing what he does -- but he makes mistakes. I think using the iPhone OS for the iPad is a mistake. Having a touch screen does not trump having full OS functionality.</p><p>For portability, functionality, inputs, interoperability, and even OS alternatives**, a netbook like the Dell Mini 10v beats the Apple iPad all i-silly.</p><p>**nudge nudge, wink wink</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alright , I just coined RIC ( Real , Important Concerns ) .
Fifteen seconds of blogosphere fame for me.There are Macs in my house and I like 'em .
I 've been with OS X since 10.0.0 .
But the iPad is a big iPhone .
If I wanted to enlarge a mobile phone to create a " netpad " , I sure would n't pick the iPhone .
A phone that runs Android would be more interesting to me.I understand that Mr Jobs wants to build a new market by extending an established market .
He 's good at doing what he does -- but he makes mistakes .
I think using the iPhone OS for the iPad is a mistake .
Having a touch screen does not trump having full OS functionality.For portability , functionality , inputs , interoperability , and even OS alternatives * * , a netbook like the Dell Mini 10v beats the Apple iPad all i-silly .
* * nudge nudge , wink wink</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alright, I just coined RIC (Real, Important Concerns).
Fifteen seconds of blogosphere fame for me.There are Macs in my house and I like 'em.
I've been with OS X since 10.0.0.
But the iPad is a big iPhone.
If I wanted to enlarge a mobile phone to create a "netpad", I sure wouldn't pick the iPhone.
A phone that runs Android would be more interesting to me.I understand that Mr Jobs wants to build a new market by extending an established market.
He's good at doing what he does -- but he makes mistakes.
I think using the iPhone OS for the iPad is a mistake.
Having a touch screen does not trump having full OS functionality.For portability, functionality, inputs, interoperability, and even OS alternatives**, a netbook like the Dell Mini 10v beats the Apple iPad all i-silly.
**nudge nudge, wink wink</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072584</id>
	<title>The answers are obvious</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265733600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's an over-sized iPod Touch. If you want to know the answers to these questions, just answer them for the iPod Touch. The answers are:</p><p>1) Yes.<br>2) Yes.<br>3) Yes.<br>4) Yes. (Existing apps work, so Last.fm, Spotify, Rhapsody, et al will work. And obviously YouTube too.)<br>5) Only in magical fantasy land where video can be recorded without a camera. In other words...dumb question.<br>6) No.<br>7) No.<br>8) No.</p><p>I think the iPad is an over-hyped failure waiting to happen, but come on. Don't pull a Glenn Beck. Ask some serious questions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's an over-sized iPod Touch .
If you want to know the answers to these questions , just answer them for the iPod Touch .
The answers are : 1 ) Yes.2 ) Yes.3 ) Yes.4 ) Yes .
( Existing apps work , so Last.fm , Spotify , Rhapsody , et al will work .
And obviously YouTube too .
) 5 ) Only in magical fantasy land where video can be recorded without a camera .
In other words...dumb question.6 ) No.7 ) No.8 ) No.I think the iPad is an over-hyped failure waiting to happen , but come on .
Do n't pull a Glenn Beck .
Ask some serious questions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's an over-sized iPod Touch.
If you want to know the answers to these questions, just answer them for the iPod Touch.
The answers are:1) Yes.2) Yes.3) Yes.4) Yes.
(Existing apps work, so Last.fm, Spotify, Rhapsody, et al will work.
And obviously YouTube too.
)5) Only in magical fantasy land where video can be recorded without a camera.
In other words...dumb question.6) No.7) No.8) No.I think the iPad is an over-hyped failure waiting to happen, but come on.
Don't pull a Glenn Beck.
Ask some serious questions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070348</id>
	<title>But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1265718480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The most important question is "Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>The most important question is " Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most important question is "Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070226</id>
	<title>Re:Just pollin'</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265716620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I too question what the hell this is for, don't make the mistake of thinking that just because a netbook is more capable that idiots won't buy an ipad. look at the iphone and the ipod, both of which were several years behind all the leading products in  technology and feature wise yet they were roaring successes, never underestimate the stupidity of the consumer market.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I too question what the hell this is for , do n't make the mistake of thinking that just because a netbook is more capable that idiots wo n't buy an ipad .
look at the iphone and the ipod , both of which were several years behind all the leading products in technology and feature wise yet they were roaring successes , never underestimate the stupidity of the consumer market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I too question what the hell this is for, don't make the mistake of thinking that just because a netbook is more capable that idiots won't buy an ipad.
look at the iphone and the ipod, both of which were several years behind all the leading products in  technology and feature wise yet they were roaring successes, never underestimate the stupidity of the consumer market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071114</id>
	<title>Go, go gadget Galen!</title>
	<author>wrencherd</author>
	<datestamp>1265725980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How can any self-respecting "gadget-blogger" not lust after a flirty-box like the iPad regardless of his/her list of wants?</p><p>IMHO, Apple makes very good hardware; software . . . not so much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How can any self-respecting " gadget-blogger " not lust after a flirty-box like the iPad regardless of his/her list of wants ? IMHO , Apple makes very good hardware ; software .
. .
not so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can any self-respecting "gadget-blogger" not lust after a flirty-box like the iPad regardless of his/her list of wants?IMHO, Apple makes very good hardware; software .
. .
not so much.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070960</id>
	<title>Don't click the link bait!</title>
	<author>krisbrowne42</author>
	<datestamp>1265724960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the summary there were 3 features already present in current Touch OS devices, which work great, and have been working for ages. If the author has so poorly researched the article, how is it relevant? All he knows is that dissing an Apple product will drive clicks (or ever more increasingly, taps), no matter if he's got a clue what he's talking about. Until we as a community stop feeding such jackassery, the quality of tech journalism will continue to slip.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the summary there were 3 features already present in current Touch OS devices , which work great , and have been working for ages .
If the author has so poorly researched the article , how is it relevant ?
All he knows is that dissing an Apple product will drive clicks ( or ever more increasingly , taps ) , no matter if he 's got a clue what he 's talking about .
Until we as a community stop feeding such jackassery , the quality of tech journalism will continue to slip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the summary there were 3 features already present in current Touch OS devices, which work great, and have been working for ages.
If the author has so poorly researched the article, how is it relevant?
All he knows is that dissing an Apple product will drive clicks (or ever more increasingly, taps), no matter if he's got a clue what he's talking about.
Until we as a community stop feeding such jackassery, the quality of tech journalism will continue to slip.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31110452</id>
	<title>and one that isn't getting asked</title>
	<author>alizard</author>
	<datestamp>1265965920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's the value-add that makes their device worth $1000 when wintel tablets that can run a Linux netbook distro can be found for <br>
In a modern hardware context, a tablet's just a repackaged netbook, Apple's package has what appears to be a slow CPU and a smaller battery. Where's the rocket science here?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the value-add that makes their device worth $ 1000 when wintel tablets that can run a Linux netbook distro can be found for In a modern hardware context , a tablet 's just a repackaged netbook , Apple 's package has what appears to be a slow CPU and a smaller battery .
Where 's the rocket science here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the value-add that makes their device worth $1000 when wintel tablets that can run a Linux netbook distro can be found for 
In a modern hardware context, a tablet's just a repackaged netbook, Apple's package has what appears to be a slow CPU and a smaller battery.
Where's the rocket science here?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31079870</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265718420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't cost \_nothing\_. It would cost "why is my iPad slow today?", and "I've installed those 50 apps and now that doesn't work!".</p><p>I can give iPad to my mom or younger sister and be sure that they won't screw up the system, even if they tried to. There's no "FREE SMILEYS!" application that would send spam in the background. There are no system files to delete.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't cost \ _nothing \ _ .
It would cost " why is my iPad slow today ?
" , and " I 've installed those 50 apps and now that does n't work !
" .I can give iPad to my mom or younger sister and be sure that they wo n't screw up the system , even if they tried to .
There 's no " FREE SMILEYS !
" application that would send spam in the background .
There are no system files to delete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't cost \_nothing\_.
It would cost "why is my iPad slow today?
", and "I've installed those 50 apps and now that doesn't work!
".I can give iPad to my mom or younger sister and be sure that they won't screw up the system, even if they tried to.
There's no "FREE SMILEYS!
" application that would send spam in the background.
There are no system files to delete.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070754</id>
	<title>Oh come on</title>
	<author>rinoid</author>
	<datestamp>1265723040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know this is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. but come on guys<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... you fell for click bait.</p><p>&gt; Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?</p><p>Probably so</p><p>&gt; Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?</p><p>Why wouldn't it? All other things Apple ships running a version of OS X supports Exchange.</p><p>&gt; Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?</p><p>Uhm let's see, does the iPhone? Check. Does OS X? Check.</p><p>&gt; Can you use media services other than iTunes on the iPad?</p><p>Amazon? Check. Hulu will likely have an app. Netflix maybe...<br>YouTube is there.</p><p>&gt; Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing?</p><p>Apparently not with v1 of the hardware.</p><p>&gt; Will the iPad's internal storage be upgradable?</p><p>Nope.</p><p>&gt; Will the iPad allow multiple apps to run simultaneously?</p><p>Built in stuff<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... you can run the iPod app while doing anything else.</p><p>&gt; Will Apple allow the use of Flash on the iPad?</p><p>Why?</p><p>----</p><p>Why is such a troll article posted in the first place?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this is / .
but come on guys ... you fell for click bait. &gt; Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad ? Probably so &gt; Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email ? Why would n't it ?
All other things Apple ships running a version of OS X supports Exchange. &gt; Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management ? Uhm let 's see , does the iPhone ?
Check. Does OS X ?
Check. &gt; Can you use media services other than iTunes on the iPad ? Amazon ?
Check. Hulu will likely have an app .
Netflix maybe...YouTube is there. &gt; Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing ? Apparently not with v1 of the hardware. &gt; Will the iPad 's internal storage be upgradable ? Nope. &gt; Will the iPad allow multiple apps to run simultaneously ? Built in stuff ... you can run the iPod app while doing anything else. &gt; Will Apple allow the use of Flash on the iPad ? Why ? ----Why is such a troll article posted in the first place ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this is /.
but come on guys ... you fell for click bait.&gt; Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?Probably so&gt; Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?Why wouldn't it?
All other things Apple ships running a version of OS X supports Exchange.&gt; Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?Uhm let's see, does the iPhone?
Check. Does OS X?
Check.&gt; Can you use media services other than iTunes on the iPad?Amazon?
Check. Hulu will likely have an app.
Netflix maybe...YouTube is there.&gt; Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing?Apparently not with v1 of the hardware.&gt; Will the iPad's internal storage be upgradable?Nope.&gt; Will the iPad allow multiple apps to run simultaneously?Built in stuff ... you can run the iPod app while doing anything else.&gt; Will Apple allow the use of Flash on the iPad?Why?----Why is such a troll article posted in the first place?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070846</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265723880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... the iPad Nano (formerly known as iPod Touch)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>No, the iPod nano is still the iPod nano. The iPod touch is still the iPod touch. Where the hell did you get this idea?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... the iPad Nano ( formerly known as iPod Touch ) ...No , the iPod nano is still the iPod nano .
The iPod touch is still the iPod touch .
Where the hell did you get this idea ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... the iPad Nano (formerly known as iPod Touch) ...No, the iPod nano is still the iPod nano.
The iPod touch is still the iPod touch.
Where the hell did you get this idea?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071378</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>Threni</author>
	<datestamp>1265727540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean "What's it for?" ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean " What 's it for ?
" ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean "What's it for?
" ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070348</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31086742</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Ol Olsoc</author>
	<datestamp>1265044440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you just crawl out from under a rock? People have been describing the uses for iPad since it was announced.
<p>
I'll refresh the list however.
</p><p>
Sitting on the couch in the living room watching TV and wanting to look something up on the web. Lot's of people use laptops or netbooks, but seriously that folding and not too well balanced thing is not cool to hold in your lap.
</p><p>
having cluless noobs access the web without infecting their machines or others.
</p><p>
A light and reasonably attractive thing that sits on the coffee table, ready for use. My better half always makes me shut the laptop, and if I'm not there it gets put in the office.
</p><p>
If you look at everything that has a microprocessor in it as a computer that you have to access to it's programming, then it isn't me who has the problem. It's an appliance that will fill a niche. Probably a big niche.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you just crawl out from under a rock ?
People have been describing the uses for iPad since it was announced .
I 'll refresh the list however .
Sitting on the couch in the living room watching TV and wanting to look something up on the web .
Lot 's of people use laptops or netbooks , but seriously that folding and not too well balanced thing is not cool to hold in your lap .
having cluless noobs access the web without infecting their machines or others .
A light and reasonably attractive thing that sits on the coffee table , ready for use .
My better half always makes me shut the laptop , and if I 'm not there it gets put in the office .
If you look at everything that has a microprocessor in it as a computer that you have to access to it 's programming , then it is n't me who has the problem .
It 's an appliance that will fill a niche .
Probably a big niche .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you just crawl out from under a rock?
People have been describing the uses for iPad since it was announced.
I'll refresh the list however.
Sitting on the couch in the living room watching TV and wanting to look something up on the web.
Lot's of people use laptops or netbooks, but seriously that folding and not too well balanced thing is not cool to hold in your lap.
having cluless noobs access the web without infecting their machines or others.
A light and reasonably attractive thing that sits on the coffee table, ready for use.
My better half always makes me shut the laptop, and if I'm not there it gets put in the office.
If you look at everything that has a microprocessor in it as a computer that you have to access to it's programming, then it isn't me who has the problem.
It's an appliance that will fill a niche.
Probably a big niche.
</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070994</id>
	<title>Re:seat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265725200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a jailbroken iPod touch.  It's awesome.  I never owned anything apple before, I use Linux on all other computing devices.. but I love my iPod touch.  For what it is (a 250 dollar portable device), I use it a LOT.   Just jailbreak the iPad if you get one, and you'll have a pretty functional little device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a jailbroken iPod touch .
It 's awesome .
I never owned anything apple before , I use Linux on all other computing devices.. but I love my iPod touch .
For what it is ( a 250 dollar portable device ) , I use it a LOT .
Just jailbreak the iPad if you get one , and you 'll have a pretty functional little device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a jailbroken iPod touch.
It's awesome.
I never owned anything apple before, I use Linux on all other computing devices.. but I love my iPod touch.
For what it is (a 250 dollar portable device), I use it a LOT.
Just jailbreak the iPad if you get one, and you'll have a pretty functional little device.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071224</id>
	<title>Re:seat</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1265726580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sigh, when do people get it.<br>

With the iphone, ipod and ipad, you do not buy a full fledged computational platform... you only rent a seat in a theatre.</p></div><p>They're having trouble "getting it" because the iPhone really *is* a full fledged computational platform.  Even the masses know this (Because Steve Jobs said so in the announcement).  When something is counter-intuitive, it takes a long time before people will accept the truth.  People will expect the iPhone OS to be as open as other OSes for at least a few more year, but will eventually throw it in the rubbish bin of computational history.  The iPad will serve to accelerate this because in the mind of the consumer, "it's not a phone, a computer, and will do what my other computers do, but hand-held".  When we've been driving cars for the last X generations, if someone comes out with a new car that has a governor on it limiting speed to 10MPH, expect some people to be fooled into thinking it's a real car.  Because it is.  Only "Better(TM)".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sigh , when do people get it .
With the iphone , ipod and ipad , you do not buy a full fledged computational platform... you only rent a seat in a theatre.They 're having trouble " getting it " because the iPhone really * is * a full fledged computational platform .
Even the masses know this ( Because Steve Jobs said so in the announcement ) .
When something is counter-intuitive , it takes a long time before people will accept the truth .
People will expect the iPhone OS to be as open as other OSes for at least a few more year , but will eventually throw it in the rubbish bin of computational history .
The iPad will serve to accelerate this because in the mind of the consumer , " it 's not a phone , a computer , and will do what my other computers do , but hand-held " .
When we 've been driving cars for the last X generations , if someone comes out with a new car that has a governor on it limiting speed to 10MPH , expect some people to be fooled into thinking it 's a real car .
Because it is .
Only " Better ( TM ) " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sigh, when do people get it.
With the iphone, ipod and ipad, you do not buy a full fledged computational platform... you only rent a seat in a theatre.They're having trouble "getting it" because the iPhone really *is* a full fledged computational platform.
Even the masses know this (Because Steve Jobs said so in the announcement).
When something is counter-intuitive, it takes a long time before people will accept the truth.
People will expect the iPhone OS to be as open as other OSes for at least a few more year, but will eventually throw it in the rubbish bin of computational history.
The iPad will serve to accelerate this because in the mind of the consumer, "it's not a phone, a computer, and will do what my other computers do, but hand-held".
When we've been driving cars for the last X generations, if someone comes out with a new car that has a governor on it limiting speed to 10MPH, expect some people to be fooled into thinking it's a real car.
Because it is.
Only "Better(TM)".
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31077110</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>tclgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1265706720000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&lt;foghorn&gt;&lt;leghorn&gt;It's a joke son, it's a joke.&lt;/leghorn&gt;&lt;/foghorn&gt;</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a joke son , it 's a joke .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a joke son, it's a joke.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31074804</id>
	<title>Why is "oversized iPod touch" considered bad?</title>
	<author>NotPeteMcCabe</author>
	<datestamp>1265741760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The iPod touch can play music, play movies, show pictures, run apps, surf the web, and do email. For all but the first of these activities a larger screen is a massive improvement. If the iPad were truly nothing more than an oversized iPod touch, why does anyone think that would be bad or pointless?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPod touch can play music , play movies , show pictures , run apps , surf the web , and do email .
For all but the first of these activities a larger screen is a massive improvement .
If the iPad were truly nothing more than an oversized iPod touch , why does anyone think that would be bad or pointless ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPod touch can play music, play movies, show pictures, run apps, surf the web, and do email.
For all but the first of these activities a larger screen is a massive improvement.
If the iPad were truly nothing more than an oversized iPod touch, why does anyone think that would be bad or pointless?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070454</id>
	<title>Re:RIC, not FUD</title>
	<author>kiddygrinder</author>
	<datestamp>1265719680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Heh, i'd give it a couple months to fail before saying jobs made a mistake, maybe there's hordes of ravening fans dreaming of a slightly larger iphone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heh , i 'd give it a couple months to fail before saying jobs made a mistake , maybe there 's hordes of ravening fans dreaming of a slightly larger iphone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heh, i'd give it a couple months to fail before saying jobs made a mistake, maybe there's hordes of ravening fans dreaming of a slightly larger iphone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31081494</id>
	<title>Re:seat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265729940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have a TV. It has HDMI, it has component, it has VGA, it has SCART. I have cable STB which can output three of these. Now I know to use HDMI, but that's because I'm into technology. Not everyone knows, they have all of these different connectors, which is the best to use?</p></div><p>Component is actually "better" than HDMI:</p><p>- No audio bundled into the cable, allowing you to use an optical connector.<br>- Since it's analog, it's free of DRM controls.<br>- Resolution is not maxed out at 1080p. In fact, resolution is only limited by the equipment it's hooked up to- there is no built-in max resolution on analog medium.<br>- No weird compatibility issues between your TV and other hardware.</p><p>The only reason to use HDMI over component (if you have the option, of course) is if you want to eliminate the extra audio cable. Anybody who tries to tell you that HDMI "looks better" is an idiot, or a salesman trying to get you to spend more money. Or possibly someone who works for Monster and wants you to believe that the cable which is soaked in the blood of 1000 virgins will make your picture sound better and your sound look sharper. (Yes I said that on purpose.)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I have a PC laptop. It has serial, a mouse connector, and USB. What type of mouse should I buy to connect to it?</p></div><p>The serial and "mouse" connectors are primarily for backwards compatibility. Good luck finding a mouse that is NOT USB. Most "serial" mice are actually USB with a USB-Serial adaptor that comes in the box. So you can just buy whatever mouse you want and hook it up to whatever spot it fits in.</p><p>Oh, and it's just a laptop. All personal computers are "PC's". An Apple is a PC. So is a Dell. The whole "Apple vs. PC" is marketing bullshit. Apple is a brand, PC is describing the hardware... as in "I have a PC, not a rack-mount tower"</p></div>
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<tokenext>I have a TV .
It has HDMI , it has component , it has VGA , it has SCART .
I have cable STB which can output three of these .
Now I know to use HDMI , but that 's because I 'm into technology .
Not everyone knows , they have all of these different connectors , which is the best to use ? Component is actually " better " than HDMI : - No audio bundled into the cable , allowing you to use an optical connector.- Since it 's analog , it 's free of DRM controls.- Resolution is not maxed out at 1080p .
In fact , resolution is only limited by the equipment it 's hooked up to- there is no built-in max resolution on analog medium.- No weird compatibility issues between your TV and other hardware.The only reason to use HDMI over component ( if you have the option , of course ) is if you want to eliminate the extra audio cable .
Anybody who tries to tell you that HDMI " looks better " is an idiot , or a salesman trying to get you to spend more money .
Or possibly someone who works for Monster and wants you to believe that the cable which is soaked in the blood of 1000 virgins will make your picture sound better and your sound look sharper .
( Yes I said that on purpose .
) I have a PC laptop .
It has serial , a mouse connector , and USB .
What type of mouse should I buy to connect to it ? The serial and " mouse " connectors are primarily for backwards compatibility .
Good luck finding a mouse that is NOT USB .
Most " serial " mice are actually USB with a USB-Serial adaptor that comes in the box .
So you can just buy whatever mouse you want and hook it up to whatever spot it fits in.Oh , and it 's just a laptop .
All personal computers are " PC 's " .
An Apple is a PC .
So is a Dell .
The whole " Apple vs. PC " is marketing bullshit .
Apple is a brand , PC is describing the hardware... as in " I have a PC , not a rack-mount tower "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a TV.
It has HDMI, it has component, it has VGA, it has SCART.
I have cable STB which can output three of these.
Now I know to use HDMI, but that's because I'm into technology.
Not everyone knows, they have all of these different connectors, which is the best to use?Component is actually "better" than HDMI:- No audio bundled into the cable, allowing you to use an optical connector.- Since it's analog, it's free of DRM controls.- Resolution is not maxed out at 1080p.
In fact, resolution is only limited by the equipment it's hooked up to- there is no built-in max resolution on analog medium.- No weird compatibility issues between your TV and other hardware.The only reason to use HDMI over component (if you have the option, of course) is if you want to eliminate the extra audio cable.
Anybody who tries to tell you that HDMI "looks better" is an idiot, or a salesman trying to get you to spend more money.
Or possibly someone who works for Monster and wants you to believe that the cable which is soaked in the blood of 1000 virgins will make your picture sound better and your sound look sharper.
(Yes I said that on purpose.
)I have a PC laptop.
It has serial, a mouse connector, and USB.
What type of mouse should I buy to connect to it?The serial and "mouse" connectors are primarily for backwards compatibility.
Good luck finding a mouse that is NOT USB.
Most "serial" mice are actually USB with a USB-Serial adaptor that comes in the box.
So you can just buy whatever mouse you want and hook it up to whatever spot it fits in.Oh, and it's just a laptop.
All personal computers are "PC's".
An Apple is a PC.
So is a Dell.
The whole "Apple vs. PC" is marketing bullshit.
Apple is a brand, PC is describing the hardware... as in "I have a PC, not a rack-mount tower"
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071258</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265726700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The most important question is "Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find?"</p></div><p>Please feel free to leave your geek card on the way out.</p><p>Sheesh!, even I know that <b>the most important question is:</b> <i> Does it run Linux? </i> to which the answer is of course <i>42</i></p></div>
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<tokenext>The most important question is " Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find ?
" Please feel free to leave your geek card on the way out.Sheesh ! , even I know that the most important question is : Does it run Linux ?
to which the answer is of course 42</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most important question is "Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find?
"Please feel free to leave your geek card on the way out.Sheesh!, even I know that the most important question is:  Does it run Linux?
to which the answer is of course 42
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070636</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>cerberusss</author>
	<datestamp>1265721780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The most important question is "Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find?"</p></div><p>I have the feeling you're comparing apples to oranges. The iPad does not feel like a tablet PC. It's much, much lighter and smaller. It doesn't need to rest on your lap, like a book it can be easily held upright for a long time. It also doesn't require the maintenance that regular tablet PCs need (think anti-virus, firewalls and what have you). The battery lasts much longer and the controls are much simpler.</p><p>Tablet PCs were aimed at the business market, reading documents and marking or editing them. Taking notes, etc. The iPad is for consuming media, internet, e-mail and playing games.</p><p>I have the feeling that it's a new market.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The most important question is " Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find ?
" I have the feeling you 're comparing apples to oranges .
The iPad does not feel like a tablet PC .
It 's much , much lighter and smaller .
It does n't need to rest on your lap , like a book it can be easily held upright for a long time .
It also does n't require the maintenance that regular tablet PCs need ( think anti-virus , firewalls and what have you ) .
The battery lasts much longer and the controls are much simpler.Tablet PCs were aimed at the business market , reading documents and marking or editing them .
Taking notes , etc .
The iPad is for consuming media , internet , e-mail and playing games.I have the feeling that it 's a new market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most important question is "Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find?
"I have the feeling you're comparing apples to oranges.
The iPad does not feel like a tablet PC.
It's much, much lighter and smaller.
It doesn't need to rest on your lap, like a book it can be easily held upright for a long time.
It also doesn't require the maintenance that regular tablet PCs need (think anti-virus, firewalls and what have you).
The battery lasts much longer and the controls are much simpler.Tablet PCs were aimed at the business market, reading documents and marking or editing them.
Taking notes, etc.
The iPad is for consuming media, internet, e-mail and playing games.I have the feeling that it's a new market.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072656</id>
	<title>One question nobody seems to be asking...</title>
	<author>RogueWarrior65</author>
	<datestamp>1265733840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How much RAM does the thing have?   Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How much RAM does the thing have ?
Anyone ? Anyone ?
Bueller ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much RAM does the thing have?
Anyone?  Anyone?
Bueller?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073128</id>
	<title>Photographer's dream...</title>
	<author>FloatsomNJetsom</author>
	<datestamp>1265735640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the screen is sharp enough, the iPad might finally be the ultimate mobile solution for field photographers and photojournalists, allowing us to use our full-sized pro cameras and import those images, run a quick edit, and file a lower-res image via 3G or WiFi. Professional card backup drives (with small screens) are in the same price range, and they are much heavier, bulkier and have no network connectivity. While reporting and photographing the Haiti crisis, I had a BGAN (a satellite broadband system) with me, but with all the traffic and RF in the sky it was difficult and awkward to set up. Cellular towers, which were almost uniformly installed on earthquake-resistant buildings, were up and running extremely quickly after the quake. My iPhone worked in Haiti, and I found it to be more a far more efficient pipe through which to file low-res, web-quality images than setting up the sat dish. The only problem is I needed to pull my Macbook Pro out in one of the dustiest environments I've ever worked. It was a kludge for sure, but it did the job. The iPad promises camera connectivity and that alone puts it at the top of my shopping list.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the screen is sharp enough , the iPad might finally be the ultimate mobile solution for field photographers and photojournalists , allowing us to use our full-sized pro cameras and import those images , run a quick edit , and file a lower-res image via 3G or WiFi .
Professional card backup drives ( with small screens ) are in the same price range , and they are much heavier , bulkier and have no network connectivity .
While reporting and photographing the Haiti crisis , I had a BGAN ( a satellite broadband system ) with me , but with all the traffic and RF in the sky it was difficult and awkward to set up .
Cellular towers , which were almost uniformly installed on earthquake-resistant buildings , were up and running extremely quickly after the quake .
My iPhone worked in Haiti , and I found it to be more a far more efficient pipe through which to file low-res , web-quality images than setting up the sat dish .
The only problem is I needed to pull my Macbook Pro out in one of the dustiest environments I 've ever worked .
It was a kludge for sure , but it did the job .
The iPad promises camera connectivity and that alone puts it at the top of my shopping list .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the screen is sharp enough, the iPad might finally be the ultimate mobile solution for field photographers and photojournalists, allowing us to use our full-sized pro cameras and import those images, run a quick edit, and file a lower-res image via 3G or WiFi.
Professional card backup drives (with small screens) are in the same price range, and they are much heavier, bulkier and have no network connectivity.
While reporting and photographing the Haiti crisis, I had a BGAN (a satellite broadband system) with me, but with all the traffic and RF in the sky it was difficult and awkward to set up.
Cellular towers, which were almost uniformly installed on earthquake-resistant buildings, were up and running extremely quickly after the quake.
My iPhone worked in Haiti, and I found it to be more a far more efficient pipe through which to file low-res, web-quality images than setting up the sat dish.
The only problem is I needed to pull my Macbook Pro out in one of the dustiest environments I've ever worked.
It was a kludge for sure, but it did the job.
The iPad promises camera connectivity and that alone puts it at the top of my shopping list.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31081116</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Macgrrl</author>
	<datestamp>1265726820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple are a successful manufacturer/vendor of consumer products. They have an above average track record of creating products consumers want. It is of no benefit to them to create a product that consumers don't want to buy. Their main growth in recent years has been in consumer appliances.</p><p>I don't get why the anti-Apple-fanboys feel the need to prove that non-geeks will decide on what consumer products to purchase based on the same super-geeky criteria they use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple are a successful manufacturer/vendor of consumer products .
They have an above average track record of creating products consumers want .
It is of no benefit to them to create a product that consumers do n't want to buy .
Their main growth in recent years has been in consumer appliances.I do n't get why the anti-Apple-fanboys feel the need to prove that non-geeks will decide on what consumer products to purchase based on the same super-geeky criteria they use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple are a successful manufacturer/vendor of consumer products.
They have an above average track record of creating products consumers want.
It is of no benefit to them to create a product that consumers don't want to buy.
Their main growth in recent years has been in consumer appliances.I don't get why the anti-Apple-fanboys feel the need to prove that non-geeks will decide on what consumer products to purchase based on the same super-geeky criteria they use.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070306</id>
	<title>Re:Just pollin'</title>
	<author>Trepidity</author>
	<datestamp>1265717820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not a lot of people currently own e-book readers, but it's a rapidly growing market, so that can be considered one of the existing markets the iPad is entering. I think that was actually true with the iPod too: there was an existing portable MP3-player market, but it was <i>much</i> smaller. Stuff like the Creative NOMAD never really caught on among the non-techie public the way the iPod did.</p><p>In a lot of ways I think Apple is hoping to basically repeat the iPod's success, by getting in to a market that is almost on the cusp of being established but still a bit immature, and pushing it to mainstream success, in the process getting themselves into a dominant market position. We'll see, I suppose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not a lot of people currently own e-book readers , but it 's a rapidly growing market , so that can be considered one of the existing markets the iPad is entering .
I think that was actually true with the iPod too : there was an existing portable MP3-player market , but it was much smaller .
Stuff like the Creative NOMAD never really caught on among the non-techie public the way the iPod did.In a lot of ways I think Apple is hoping to basically repeat the iPod 's success , by getting in to a market that is almost on the cusp of being established but still a bit immature , and pushing it to mainstream success , in the process getting themselves into a dominant market position .
We 'll see , I suppose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not a lot of people currently own e-book readers, but it's a rapidly growing market, so that can be considered one of the existing markets the iPad is entering.
I think that was actually true with the iPod too: there was an existing portable MP3-player market, but it was much smaller.
Stuff like the Creative NOMAD never really caught on among the non-techie public the way the iPod did.In a lot of ways I think Apple is hoping to basically repeat the iPod's success, by getting in to a market that is almost on the cusp of being established but still a bit immature, and pushing it to mainstream success, in the process getting themselves into a dominant market position.
We'll see, I suppose.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070620</id>
	<title>Undecided, Software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265721600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can think of one single, consistent reason why all of those questions are unanswered-- because they can be provided via software, and Apple is unsure about whether to provide them (or at least whether they will be included in the release version).</p><p>

In most cases, the best clue comes from what has been done on the iPhone...</p><p>

Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad? Document live within Applications. No shared filespace. So yes and no.</p><p>

Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email? Yes.</p><p>

Does the iPad support VPN? Yes, but some features aren't done.</p><p>

Configuration management? Yes, for corporate customers, but some features aren't done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can think of one single , consistent reason why all of those questions are unanswered-- because they can be provided via software , and Apple is unsure about whether to provide them ( or at least whether they will be included in the release version ) .
In most cases , the best clue comes from what has been done on the iPhone.. . Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad ?
Document live within Applications .
No shared filespace .
So yes and no .
Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email ?
Yes . Does the iPad support VPN ?
Yes , but some features are n't done .
Configuration management ?
Yes , for corporate customers , but some features are n't done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can think of one single, consistent reason why all of those questions are unanswered-- because they can be provided via software, and Apple is unsure about whether to provide them (or at least whether they will be included in the release version).
In most cases, the best clue comes from what has been done on the iPhone...

Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?
Document live within Applications.
No shared filespace.
So yes and no.
Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?
Yes.

Does the iPad support VPN?
Yes, but some features aren't done.
Configuration management?
Yes, for corporate customers, but some features aren't done.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071412</id>
	<title>Baby steps make a product more successful</title>
	<author>Theovon</author>
	<datestamp>1265727660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Plenty of good arguments have been made about Apple wanting to keep tight control over their walled garden, those being the reasons for some missing features.</p><p>But keep in mind that this is also the first-generation of this product line.  Trying to cram too many features in all at once is a recipe for disaster.  It's important for engineers to set reasonable goals to strive for.  Incremental development is easier to develop and most importantly easier to debug.</p><p>If Apple had tried to pack in the 10000 additional features people are demanding, the iPad would not have been out for a few more years.  Instead, Apple has gotten a product to market.  And plenty of people will buy it.  Revenue can be reinvested into developing the second and third generation products.  Just as recent flash-based iPods are more sophisticated and powerful than the very first ones based on mechanical hard drives, later generations of the iPad will be more capable and more elegant.</p><p>Perhaps in 5 or 10 years a later generation iPad will be appealing to more of us geeks.  Perhaps not.  I think MY next Apple purchase will be a 17" MacBook Pro.  Because what I need is more like a desktop system I can carry around.  YMMV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Plenty of good arguments have been made about Apple wanting to keep tight control over their walled garden , those being the reasons for some missing features.But keep in mind that this is also the first-generation of this product line .
Trying to cram too many features in all at once is a recipe for disaster .
It 's important for engineers to set reasonable goals to strive for .
Incremental development is easier to develop and most importantly easier to debug.If Apple had tried to pack in the 10000 additional features people are demanding , the iPad would not have been out for a few more years .
Instead , Apple has gotten a product to market .
And plenty of people will buy it .
Revenue can be reinvested into developing the second and third generation products .
Just as recent flash-based iPods are more sophisticated and powerful than the very first ones based on mechanical hard drives , later generations of the iPad will be more capable and more elegant.Perhaps in 5 or 10 years a later generation iPad will be appealing to more of us geeks .
Perhaps not .
I think MY next Apple purchase will be a 17 " MacBook Pro .
Because what I need is more like a desktop system I can carry around .
YMMV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plenty of good arguments have been made about Apple wanting to keep tight control over their walled garden, those being the reasons for some missing features.But keep in mind that this is also the first-generation of this product line.
Trying to cram too many features in all at once is a recipe for disaster.
It's important for engineers to set reasonable goals to strive for.
Incremental development is easier to develop and most importantly easier to debug.If Apple had tried to pack in the 10000 additional features people are demanding, the iPad would not have been out for a few more years.
Instead, Apple has gotten a product to market.
And plenty of people will buy it.
Revenue can be reinvested into developing the second and third generation products.
Just as recent flash-based iPods are more sophisticated and powerful than the very first ones based on mechanical hard drives, later generations of the iPad will be more capable and more elegant.Perhaps in 5 or 10 years a later generation iPad will be appealing to more of us geeks.
Perhaps not.
I think MY next Apple purchase will be a 17" MacBook Pro.
Because what I need is more like a desktop system I can carry around.
YMMV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073238</id>
	<title>Re:strawman article</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1265736120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://infoworld.com/print/111972" title="infoworld.com">Yes, it can.</a> [infoworld.com] <p>Btw, please don't tell me you missed the Print link... or that you didn't even look for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it can .
[ infoworld.com ] Btw , please do n't tell me you missed the Print link... or that you did n't even look for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it can.
[infoworld.com] Btw, please don't tell me you missed the Print link... or that you didn't even look for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31074064</id>
	<title>Re:My one and only question.</title>
	<author>MrMickS</author>
	<datestamp>1265738820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Apple excels at creating beauty, in both hardware and software (BTW, I'm using an Imac right now). This iPad is no exception.<br>My only question is: Will I be able to put my own Operating System on it?</p></div><p>Why should Apple spend development time on something that only the vast minority of potential users, I'd estimate at &gt;1\%,  will want to do?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple excels at creating beauty , in both hardware and software ( BTW , I 'm using an Imac right now ) .
This iPad is no exception.My only question is : Will I be able to put my own Operating System on it ? Why should Apple spend development time on something that only the vast minority of potential users , I 'd estimate at &gt; 1 \ % , will want to do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple excels at creating beauty, in both hardware and software (BTW, I'm using an Imac right now).
This iPad is no exception.My only question is: Will I be able to put my own Operating System on it?Why should Apple spend development time on something that only the vast minority of potential users, I'd estimate at &gt;1\%,  will want to do?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31074628</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>517714</author>
	<datestamp>1265741160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The author says, "If Apple can't take customer questions seriously, maybe we shouldn't take its iPad hype seriously."</p><p>Clearly the author has difficulty reconciling reality with the hype, and the questions he puts out there have been answered: If Apple doesn't explicitly say you can do it, don't expect to be able to do it.  How hard is that to understand?  The reality is disappointing only to people who know what the device "might have been".</p><p>A niche market is not defined by the product, but by the consumers.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The most important question is "Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find?"</p></div><p>The answer is, "Yes".  I won't be part of the niche, and I won't recommend it to anyone - until at least the second generation.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The author says , " If Apple ca n't take customer questions seriously , maybe we should n't take its iPad hype seriously .
" Clearly the author has difficulty reconciling reality with the hype , and the questions he puts out there have been answered : If Apple does n't explicitly say you can do it , do n't expect to be able to do it .
How hard is that to understand ?
The reality is disappointing only to people who know what the device " might have been " .A niche market is not defined by the product , but by the consumers.The most important question is " Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find ?
" The answer is , " Yes " .
I wo n't be part of the niche , and I wo n't recommend it to anyone - until at least the second generation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The author says, "If Apple can't take customer questions seriously, maybe we shouldn't take its iPad hype seriously.
"Clearly the author has difficulty reconciling reality with the hype, and the questions he puts out there have been answered: If Apple doesn't explicitly say you can do it, don't expect to be able to do it.
How hard is that to understand?
The reality is disappointing only to people who know what the device "might have been".A niche market is not defined by the product, but by the consumers.The most important question is "Has Apple found a niche for this product that other Tablet PC manufacturers have been unable to find?
"The answer is, "Yes".
I won't be part of the niche, and I won't recommend it to anyone - until at least the second generation.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31090046</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265015220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPad will be a huge success. Just wait and see.</p><p>First point: Apple products, no matter how bad they are, are received well by the market.<br>Second point: No matter how overpriced said Apple products are, they are still being bought by a lot of people.<br>Third point: Most of our planets population are idiots, so they will buy Apple products.</p><p>Apple has hit a honeypot, cause they cater to regular people. The kind of people you have to explain everyday how to do their job.<br>The kind of people I have to lead right now. Doubleclicking the OpenOffice icon is a task. Needs to be taught.<br>Sometimes multiple times a day. You need to tell them what to say to a customer, again multiple times a day.</p><p>It is a perfect product to people who can't tie their own shoelaces.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad will be a huge success .
Just wait and see.First point : Apple products , no matter how bad they are , are received well by the market.Second point : No matter how overpriced said Apple products are , they are still being bought by a lot of people.Third point : Most of our planets population are idiots , so they will buy Apple products.Apple has hit a honeypot , cause they cater to regular people .
The kind of people you have to explain everyday how to do their job.The kind of people I have to lead right now .
Doubleclicking the OpenOffice icon is a task .
Needs to be taught.Sometimes multiple times a day .
You need to tell them what to say to a customer , again multiple times a day.It is a perfect product to people who ca n't tie their own shoelaces .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad will be a huge success.
Just wait and see.First point: Apple products, no matter how bad they are, are received well by the market.Second point: No matter how overpriced said Apple products are, they are still being bought by a lot of people.Third point: Most of our planets population are idiots, so they will buy Apple products.Apple has hit a honeypot, cause they cater to regular people.
The kind of people you have to explain everyday how to do their job.The kind of people I have to lead right now.
Doubleclicking the OpenOffice icon is a task.
Needs to be taught.Sometimes multiple times a day.
You need to tell them what to say to a customer, again multiple times a day.It is a perfect product to people who can't tie their own shoelaces.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070126</id>
	<title>Just pollin'</title>
	<author>bytesex</author>
	<datestamp>1265715600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know I could Google it, but I'd much rather have an expression of US 'sentiment' if you will - perhaps things are different across the ocean.  I don't see a market for this thing and it leaves me puzzled.  My question is this: does anyone there actually own something that could be seen as a precursor to this machine ?  Is every other person in the US walking around with an e-book reader, that they are ready to replace with an iPad or something ?  I mean, the iPod was launched in an existing portable MP3-player market, the iPhone was launched in an existing (even crowded) mobile phone market.  This makes me wonder, since I do not have anything that looks like an iPad already (I don't need it) - is there a widespread need for this product ?  I mean, I have a netbook, but i wouldn't compare that - it is much more capable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know I could Google it , but I 'd much rather have an expression of US 'sentiment ' if you will - perhaps things are different across the ocean .
I do n't see a market for this thing and it leaves me puzzled .
My question is this : does anyone there actually own something that could be seen as a precursor to this machine ?
Is every other person in the US walking around with an e-book reader , that they are ready to replace with an iPad or something ?
I mean , the iPod was launched in an existing portable MP3-player market , the iPhone was launched in an existing ( even crowded ) mobile phone market .
This makes me wonder , since I do not have anything that looks like an iPad already ( I do n't need it ) - is there a widespread need for this product ?
I mean , I have a netbook , but i would n't compare that - it is much more capable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know I could Google it, but I'd much rather have an expression of US 'sentiment' if you will - perhaps things are different across the ocean.
I don't see a market for this thing and it leaves me puzzled.
My question is this: does anyone there actually own something that could be seen as a precursor to this machine ?
Is every other person in the US walking around with an e-book reader, that they are ready to replace with an iPad or something ?
I mean, the iPod was launched in an existing portable MP3-player market, the iPhone was launched in an existing (even crowded) mobile phone market.
This makes me wonder, since I do not have anything that looks like an iPad already (I don't need it) - is there a widespread need for this product ?
I mean, I have a netbook, but i wouldn't compare that - it is much more capable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070402</id>
	<title>Bitter he's not at the party</title>
	<author>aclarke</author>
	<datestamp>1265719140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It sounds to me a bit like the author of that article is a little miffed that he's been disintermediated.  He mentioned several times about how Apple PR hasn't gotten back to him on this or that, therefore these features must be absent.  He also mentions how Apple views the press as an extension of their marketing arm.
<br> <br>
It all smells a little like sour grapes to me.  Boo hoo Apple won't tell *ME*, a member of the PRESS, things that I want to know!  Therefore they must be absent!  Yeah, that'll shame Apple into talking to you.  Way to push them around.
<br> <br>
My own take, which is just about as informed as the writer's, is that the iPad will include the same Microsoft Exchange, VPN, multitasking, document saving &amp; transferring, etc. etc. capabilities as the iPhone or iPod Touch.  And why not?  It's the same OS?  The only place they're likely to differ is if the iPad doesn't include a camera.
<br> <br>
I can't understand why Apple would REMOVE VPN functionality from the iPad when it's there already.  I suppose they might ship without Exchange support as it's a new mail client, but if that is the case I'll expect it in a forthcoming new version, just like what happened with the original iPhone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds to me a bit like the author of that article is a little miffed that he 's been disintermediated .
He mentioned several times about how Apple PR has n't gotten back to him on this or that , therefore these features must be absent .
He also mentions how Apple views the press as an extension of their marketing arm .
It all smells a little like sour grapes to me .
Boo hoo Apple wo n't tell * ME * , a member of the PRESS , things that I want to know !
Therefore they must be absent !
Yeah , that 'll shame Apple into talking to you .
Way to push them around .
My own take , which is just about as informed as the writer 's , is that the iPad will include the same Microsoft Exchange , VPN , multitasking , document saving &amp; transferring , etc .
etc. capabilities as the iPhone or iPod Touch .
And why not ?
It 's the same OS ?
The only place they 're likely to differ is if the iPad does n't include a camera .
I ca n't understand why Apple would REMOVE VPN functionality from the iPad when it 's there already .
I suppose they might ship without Exchange support as it 's a new mail client , but if that is the case I 'll expect it in a forthcoming new version , just like what happened with the original iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds to me a bit like the author of that article is a little miffed that he's been disintermediated.
He mentioned several times about how Apple PR hasn't gotten back to him on this or that, therefore these features must be absent.
He also mentions how Apple views the press as an extension of their marketing arm.
It all smells a little like sour grapes to me.
Boo hoo Apple won't tell *ME*, a member of the PRESS, things that I want to know!
Therefore they must be absent!
Yeah, that'll shame Apple into talking to you.
Way to push them around.
My own take, which is just about as informed as the writer's, is that the iPad will include the same Microsoft Exchange, VPN, multitasking, document saving &amp; transferring, etc.
etc. capabilities as the iPhone or iPod Touch.
And why not?
It's the same OS?
The only place they're likely to differ is if the iPad doesn't include a camera.
I can't understand why Apple would REMOVE VPN functionality from the iPad when it's there already.
I suppose they might ship without Exchange support as it's a new mail client, but if that is the case I'll expect it in a forthcoming new version, just like what happened with the original iPhone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071814</id>
	<title>For those interested in  reading</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265729820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bypass ads @ http://infoworld.com/print/111972</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bypass ads @ http : //infoworld.com/print/111972</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bypass ads @ http://infoworld.com/print/111972</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072178</id>
	<title>What is an iPad?</title>
	<author>kurt555gs</author>
	<datestamp>1265731740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a wireless cable box.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a wireless cable box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a wireless cable box.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070222</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>SethJohnson</author>
	<datestamp>1265716620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Purpose of the ipad:<ul>
<li>Play video files on a comfortable screen while I'm doing cardio at the gym.</li>
<li>Browse web in non-sitting positions.</li>
<li>Read digital books.</li>
<li>Play casual games on comfortable-sized touch screen.</li>
</ul><p>

The people like me who will buy the iPad are not looking for a device that is a computer. They're looking for a media access device that doesn't carry the drawbacks of a computer. If you still can't comprehend the iPad, you need to look at the Kindle DX and complain about how little that does and it's just ten bucks less than an iPad.<br> <br>Seth</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Purpose of the ipad : Play video files on a comfortable screen while I 'm doing cardio at the gym .
Browse web in non-sitting positions .
Read digital books .
Play casual games on comfortable-sized touch screen .
The people like me who will buy the iPad are not looking for a device that is a computer .
They 're looking for a media access device that does n't carry the drawbacks of a computer .
If you still ca n't comprehend the iPad , you need to look at the Kindle DX and complain about how little that does and it 's just ten bucks less than an iPad .
Seth</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Purpose of the ipad:
Play video files on a comfortable screen while I'm doing cardio at the gym.
Browse web in non-sitting positions.
Read digital books.
Play casual games on comfortable-sized touch screen.
The people like me who will buy the iPad are not looking for a device that is a computer.
They're looking for a media access device that doesn't carry the drawbacks of a computer.
If you still can't comprehend the iPad, you need to look at the Kindle DX and complain about how little that does and it's just ten bucks less than an iPad.
Seth</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070054</id>
	<title>Answers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265714640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?</p></div><p>Most likely.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?</p></div><p>Not likely.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?</p></div><p>Not likely.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Can you use media services other than iTunes on the iPad?</p></div><p>Uhm.. New to Apple's stuff? The answer is big NO!</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing?</p></div><p>There is no camera.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Will the iPad's internal storage be upgradable?</p></div><p>There's different storage versions for a reason. Need more space? Buy the larger version (again, in case you have bought the smaller one)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Will the iPad allow multiple apps to run simultaneously?</p></div><p>No.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Will Apple allow the use of Flash on the iPad?</p></div><p>No.</p><p>Seriously, Apple is worse than Microsoft in locking down things. The whole iPad is <i>completely</i> locked.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad ? Most likely.Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email ? Not likely.Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management ? Not likely.Can you use media services other than iTunes on the iPad ? Uhm.. New to Apple 's stuff ?
The answer is big NO ! Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing ? There is no camera.Will the iPad 's internal storage be upgradable ? There 's different storage versions for a reason .
Need more space ?
Buy the larger version ( again , in case you have bought the smaller one ) Will the iPad allow multiple apps to run simultaneously ? No.Will Apple allow the use of Flash on the iPad ? No.Seriously , Apple is worse than Microsoft in locking down things .
The whole iPad is completely locked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you save and transfer documents to the iPad?Most likely.Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?Not likely.Does the iPad support VPN and configuration management?Not likely.Can you use media services other than iTunes on the iPad?Uhm.. New to Apple's stuff?
The answer is big NO!Can the iPad be used for videoconferencing?There is no camera.Will the iPad's internal storage be upgradable?There's different storage versions for a reason.
Need more space?
Buy the larger version (again, in case you have bought the smaller one)Will the iPad allow multiple apps to run simultaneously?No.Will Apple allow the use of Flash on the iPad?No.Seriously, Apple is worse than Microsoft in locking down things.
The whole iPad is completely locked.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071744</id>
	<title>Maybe it's your journalism ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265729400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe they refuse to answer questions they'd already answered before. Seriously, most of the questions area answered (sharing documents) or were already supported by previous iPhone OS versions (Exchange support - yes, the iPhone supports Exchange, has for over a year).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they refuse to answer questions they 'd already answered before .
Seriously , most of the questions area answered ( sharing documents ) or were already supported by previous iPhone OS versions ( Exchange support - yes , the iPhone supports Exchange , has for over a year ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they refuse to answer questions they'd already answered before.
Seriously, most of the questions area answered (sharing documents) or were already supported by previous iPhone OS versions (Exchange support - yes, the iPhone supports Exchange, has for over a year).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070832</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>Tim C</author>
	<datestamp>1265723760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He said iP<b>a</b>d Nano; it was a joke. Duh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He said iPad Nano ; it was a joke .
Duh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He said iPad Nano; it was a joke.
Duh.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31074964</id>
	<title>Re:But that's not the most important question</title>
	<author>Fear the Clam</author>
	<datestamp>1265742420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not ask Microsoft that same question about the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY&amp;feature=related" title="youtube.com">Surface</a> [youtube.com]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not ask Microsoft that same question about the Surface [ youtube.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not ask Microsoft that same question about the Surface [youtube.com]?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070856</id>
	<title>Re:The lack of FLASH is a PR-Stunt!</title>
	<author>arth1</author>
	<datestamp>1265723940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>a simple thing like the obvious lack of Flash, which is severely needed for a proper Surfing Experience that the iPad is made for</p></div></blockquote><p>No, you can't use it for Redtube.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>a simple thing like the obvious lack of Flash , which is severely needed for a proper Surfing Experience that the iPad is made forNo , you ca n't use it for Redtube .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a simple thing like the obvious lack of Flash, which is severely needed for a proper Surfing Experience that the iPad is made forNo, you can't use it for Redtube.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071910</id>
	<title>High-level management will be the problem</title>
	<author>HikingStick</author>
	<datestamp>1265730420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even if I send this around to all of the officers and executives, one of them will still buy one and then insist that we support it in the enterprise.  It will soon be mandated that I find a way to make things work that were never meant to work on the device (like Exchange support on first-generation Android phones), and I'll end up getting a poor performance review for failing to adequately support management's IT needs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if I send this around to all of the officers and executives , one of them will still buy one and then insist that we support it in the enterprise .
It will soon be mandated that I find a way to make things work that were never meant to work on the device ( like Exchange support on first-generation Android phones ) , and I 'll end up getting a poor performance review for failing to adequately support management 's IT needs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if I send this around to all of the officers and executives, one of them will still buy one and then insist that we support it in the enterprise.
It will soon be mandated that I find a way to make things work that were never meant to work on the device (like Exchange support on first-generation Android phones), and I'll end up getting a poor performance review for failing to adequately support management's IT needs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31074402</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>alcmaeon</author>
	<datestamp>1265740200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slashdot is not representative of the computer using market as a whole. I venture to guess that most computer users do not have jobs as programmers, systems administrators, or video content creators.  I don't.  I'm a trial attorney.</p><p>For me, the iPad has more promise than any computing device since the original Newton.  I envision being able to carry with me entire files to the court and acccess them in a simple and intuitive manner (unlike a laptop which is cumbersom and cannot really be carried around the courtroom).  I will also have constant access to my calendar, my contacts, my billing database, and my email.  Althouhgh most of what I would do on this device involves the manipulation of previously created documents, I would certainly be able to make notes during the trial, and, if required, I will be able to create full documents on the road and send them out as necessary (something a phone is simply too small for).</p><p>I would imagine that Doctors, Sales Agents, architects, engineers, and many other professionals who have to do "field work" would find this far more useful than traditional laptops.</p><p>Remember, just because you spend most of your time in front of a computer sitting on a flat surface, doesn't mean that everyone does.  There are huge numbers of us who do not, but we have not been adequately served by a reasonably priced computing device until (potentially) now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot is not representative of the computer using market as a whole .
I venture to guess that most computer users do not have jobs as programmers , systems administrators , or video content creators .
I do n't .
I 'm a trial attorney.For me , the iPad has more promise than any computing device since the original Newton .
I envision being able to carry with me entire files to the court and acccess them in a simple and intuitive manner ( unlike a laptop which is cumbersom and can not really be carried around the courtroom ) .
I will also have constant access to my calendar , my contacts , my billing database , and my email .
Althouhgh most of what I would do on this device involves the manipulation of previously created documents , I would certainly be able to make notes during the trial , and , if required , I will be able to create full documents on the road and send them out as necessary ( something a phone is simply too small for ) .I would imagine that Doctors , Sales Agents , architects , engineers , and many other professionals who have to do " field work " would find this far more useful than traditional laptops.Remember , just because you spend most of your time in front of a computer sitting on a flat surface , does n't mean that everyone does .
There are huge numbers of us who do not , but we have not been adequately served by a reasonably priced computing device until ( potentially ) now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot is not representative of the computer using market as a whole.
I venture to guess that most computer users do not have jobs as programmers, systems administrators, or video content creators.
I don't.
I'm a trial attorney.For me, the iPad has more promise than any computing device since the original Newton.
I envision being able to carry with me entire files to the court and acccess them in a simple and intuitive manner (unlike a laptop which is cumbersom and cannot really be carried around the courtroom).
I will also have constant access to my calendar, my contacts, my billing database, and my email.
Althouhgh most of what I would do on this device involves the manipulation of previously created documents, I would certainly be able to make notes during the trial, and, if required, I will be able to create full documents on the road and send them out as necessary (something a phone is simply too small for).I would imagine that Doctors, Sales Agents, architects, engineers, and many other professionals who have to do "field work" would find this far more useful than traditional laptops.Remember, just because you spend most of your time in front of a computer sitting on a flat surface, doesn't mean that everyone does.
There are huge numbers of us who do not, but we have not been adequately served by a reasonably priced computing device until (potentially) now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071868</id>
	<title>the only question</title>
	<author>mastril</author>
	<datestamp>1265730180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>the only question for me is: why would anyone develop a need to have this thing. it does nothing other, cheaper tools won't do better. it is a fancy overhyped gadget for the distinguished gentleman who already has everything<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but common sense.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the only question for me is : why would anyone develop a need to have this thing .
it does nothing other , cheaper tools wo n't do better .
it is a fancy overhyped gadget for the distinguished gentleman who already has everything ... but common sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the only question for me is: why would anyone develop a need to have this thing.
it does nothing other, cheaper tools won't do better.
it is a fancy overhyped gadget for the distinguished gentleman who already has everything ... but common sense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071566</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>nscheffey</author>
	<datestamp>1265728320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic, and relatively easily accomplishable. </p></div><p>You've never designed any software have you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic , and relatively easily accomplishable .
You 've never designed any software have you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic, and relatively easily accomplishable.
You've never designed any software have you?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071398</id>
	<title>What a fucking troll</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1265727600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It runs iPhone OS v3.2 and 99\% of iPhone apps (not the ones that require a built-on camera or GPS).</p><p>Since iPhone OS has built-in VPN and Exchange, why would anyone but a troll think that doesn't work on iPad. Somebody already tried the VPN and remote controlled fucking Windows.</p><p>iWork documents appear to other devices on the network as a file server, just like about 20\% of iPhone apps.</p><p>You don't have to look far for these answers. They had a press event. The press handled the device. iPhone OS v3.1.1 is running on iPhone and iPod and the fucking 140,000 apps are on sale right now.</p><p>And Apple doesn't talk, they fucking ship. Recommend a dose of that to all in tech. WTF does Steve Ballmer's HP Slate do? When will it ship? What will it cost? None of these things has been said.</p><p>Is this really the best you have in anti-iPad BS?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It runs iPhone OS v3.2 and 99 \ % of iPhone apps ( not the ones that require a built-on camera or GPS ) .Since iPhone OS has built-in VPN and Exchange , why would anyone but a troll think that does n't work on iPad .
Somebody already tried the VPN and remote controlled fucking Windows.iWork documents appear to other devices on the network as a file server , just like about 20 \ % of iPhone apps.You do n't have to look far for these answers .
They had a press event .
The press handled the device .
iPhone OS v3.1.1 is running on iPhone and iPod and the fucking 140,000 apps are on sale right now.And Apple does n't talk , they fucking ship .
Recommend a dose of that to all in tech .
WTF does Steve Ballmer 's HP Slate do ?
When will it ship ?
What will it cost ?
None of these things has been said.Is this really the best you have in anti-iPad BS ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It runs iPhone OS v3.2 and 99\% of iPhone apps (not the ones that require a built-on camera or GPS).Since iPhone OS has built-in VPN and Exchange, why would anyone but a troll think that doesn't work on iPad.
Somebody already tried the VPN and remote controlled fucking Windows.iWork documents appear to other devices on the network as a file server, just like about 20\% of iPhone apps.You don't have to look far for these answers.
They had a press event.
The press handled the device.
iPhone OS v3.1.1 is running on iPhone and iPod and the fucking 140,000 apps are on sale right now.And Apple doesn't talk, they fucking ship.
Recommend a dose of that to all in tech.
WTF does Steve Ballmer's HP Slate do?
When will it ship?
What will it cost?
None of these things has been said.Is this really the best you have in anti-iPad BS?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31079386</id>
	<title>Re:RIC, not FUD</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1265715960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Using a modified version of the iPhone OS is exactly what Jobs has done right. Putting a full desktop OS into a tablet is where everyone has been going wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Using a modified version of the iPhone OS is exactly what Jobs has done right .
Putting a full desktop OS into a tablet is where everyone has been going wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using a modified version of the iPhone OS is exactly what Jobs has done right.
Putting a full desktop OS into a tablet is where everyone has been going wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31076664</id>
	<title>The question no-one asked...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265748240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>9. Can I write handwritten notes on it, a question no one even seems to have raised or considered. And, I don't mean something insane like using Pages and inserting a 'drawing'... If not, good luck to the first person that downloads the iPad SDK, writes this in about 200 lines and makes an absolute killing.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-) (Yeah, I cba to do it myself, please someone go ahead and jfdi)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>9 .
Can I write handwritten notes on it , a question no one even seems to have raised or considered .
And , I do n't mean something insane like using Pages and inserting a 'drawing'... If not , good luck to the first person that downloads the iPad SDK , writes this in about 200 lines and makes an absolute killing .
: - ) ( Yeah , I cba to do it myself , please someone go ahead and jfdi )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>9.
Can I write handwritten notes on it, a question no one even seems to have raised or considered.
And, I don't mean something insane like using Pages and inserting a 'drawing'... If not, good luck to the first person that downloads the iPad SDK, writes this in about 200 lines and makes an absolute killing.
:-) (Yeah, I cba to do it myself, please someone go ahead and jfdi)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073628</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>aristotle-dude</author>
	<datestamp>1265737320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>VPN capabilities on the iPhone are terrible, if you ask me.  You either have to be running Cisco VPN or Microsoft VPN services.  Where is the OpenVPN support?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>OpenVPN support? How many companies use OpenVPN instead of Cisco or Microsoft VPN? I don't think this is an issue for most corporate users.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>
Also, I seriously doubt you'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email.  They don't like to give people access to the internal storage because it makes it easier to find exploits</p></div><p>They have stated that there will be a shared storage area on the iPad. We will have to wait and see but it is conceivable that you will be able to sync files onto the device wirelessly and possibly via USB through iTunes.
</p><p>
The problem with connecting it as a drive is that it will most likely use HFS+ which is not natively supported on windows. So it is more likely that you will have to use either iTunes or wireless syncing to get files on and off the device.</p></div></div></div>
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<tokenext>VPN capabilities on the iPhone are terrible , if you ask me .
You either have to be running Cisco VPN or Microsoft VPN services .
Where is the OpenVPN support ? OpenVPN support ?
How many companies use OpenVPN instead of Cisco or Microsoft VPN ?
I do n't think this is an issue for most corporate users .
Also , I seriously doubt you 'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email .
They do n't like to give people access to the internal storage because it makes it easier to find exploitsThey have stated that there will be a shared storage area on the iPad .
We will have to wait and see but it is conceivable that you will be able to sync files onto the device wirelessly and possibly via USB through iTunes .
The problem with connecting it as a drive is that it will most likely use HFS + which is not natively supported on windows .
So it is more likely that you will have to use either iTunes or wireless syncing to get files on and off the device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VPN capabilities on the iPhone are terrible, if you ask me.
You either have to be running Cisco VPN or Microsoft VPN services.
Where is the OpenVPN support?OpenVPN support?
How many companies use OpenVPN instead of Cisco or Microsoft VPN?
I don't think this is an issue for most corporate users.
Also, I seriously doubt you'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email.
They don't like to give people access to the internal storage because it makes it easier to find exploitsThey have stated that there will be a shared storage area on the iPad.
We will have to wait and see but it is conceivable that you will be able to sync files onto the device wirelessly and possibly via USB through iTunes.
The problem with connecting it as a drive is that it will most likely use HFS+ which is not natively supported on windows.
So it is more likely that you will have to use either iTunes or wireless syncing to get files on and off the device.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070160</id>
	<title>Wrong questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265715900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email? Does the iPad support VPN? Configuration management?</p><p>Why would these matter to soccer moms and other similar everyday people who are the main targets of this device?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email ?
Does the iPad support VPN ?
Configuration management ? Why would these matter to soccer moms and other similar everyday people who are the main targets of this device ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the iPad support Microsoft Exchange email?
Does the iPad support VPN?
Configuration management?Why would these matter to soccer moms and other similar everyday people who are the main targets of this device?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31074264</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265739600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When you say it "doesn't carry the drawbacks of a computer," you're simply being dishonest: it would cost <i>nothing</i> in user experience to allow multitasking or free installation of software.</p></div><p>Gee, I guess that why Windows and Linux are both so user friendly and require so little tech support compared to the iPhone and iPod Touch.</p><p>You people amaze me. Three years the iPhone has been out there and you still don't get why Apple doesn't allow free installation of software. It's not merely about profit, it's about <i>security</i>. Apple has set itself up as a software install bottleneck because the iPhone is running a near-full version of MacOS X, which means that moron 14-year old's could write malware for it. If one virus got loose on the iPhone ecosystem and disabled all of those phones, what do you think would happen to Apple's iPhone sales? Nobody is going to buy and use a smartphone that is routinely riddled with viruses, worms, and every other form of malware. That's why Apple requires developer to submit their code for review before it goes live on the App Store; that's why Apple doesn't allow apps that permit users to write their own executable code; and that's why Apple put a kill switch in the iPhone OS--so Steve Jobs could nuke a virus across the entire iPhone ecosystem if one ever did manage to through all of those other security layers.</p><p>And given that I might need to use an iPhone to call 911 someday, I'm glad that Steve Jobs has all that security in place and didn't bend to the whims of loudmouthed Stallman disciples who insist they should be able to hack their iPhone software any which way they please. Because when the moment comes that I dial 911, the last thing I want to see is a screen pop up that says "U bin pwned noob!" I bet that Haitian earthquake victim who was able to use his iPhone to lead rescuers to his position is mighty glad that it "just worked" when he desperately needed it to. So suck it up and deal with the fact that vastly more people consider their iPhone an indispensable tool that needs to work 99.999\% of the time than as a geek toy best used for cobbling together handheld Beowulf clusters to earn bragging rights on Slashdot.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic and relatively easily accomplishable. It would come with no extra drawbacks for the user whatsoever.</p></div><p>First, the current iPhone OS <i>is</i> a near-full MacOS X with an iPhone GUI. The missing OS chunks are those that aren't useful for a handheld device with a 3" screen. Second, we know exactly jack about how Apple might be planning to fork the iPhone OS for the iPad to allow for additional features useful on a device with a 10" screen and a more powerful CPU. Third, the device won't even hit the market for another six weeks and it's entirely possible that they might add a few nifty features to it in that time that Jobs didn't demo last month. Fourth, all of these criticisms are stemming from that one 90-minute demo that Steve Jobs &amp; co. gave of iPad beta version<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.095, wherein they showed off only the features most likely to appeal to the widest audience.</p><p><i>Not one person in this thread slamming the iPad has laid hands on one.</i> What say all of you wait until March, then go to an Apple Store and actually play with an iPad before you deign to tell us how Apple should reengineer the device according to your own personal specs? Or better yet, if you know so well what it takes to build a tablet computer that will the masses would just die for (noting that Microsoft and many other companies have failed over the last decade despite multiple attempts) why don't you build one yourself and put it out there for the rest of us to tear apart?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When you say it " does n't carry the drawbacks of a computer , " you 're simply being dishonest : it would cost nothing in user experience to allow multitasking or free installation of software.Gee , I guess that why Windows and Linux are both so user friendly and require so little tech support compared to the iPhone and iPod Touch.You people amaze me .
Three years the iPhone has been out there and you still do n't get why Apple does n't allow free installation of software .
It 's not merely about profit , it 's about security .
Apple has set itself up as a software install bottleneck because the iPhone is running a near-full version of MacOS X , which means that moron 14-year old 's could write malware for it .
If one virus got loose on the iPhone ecosystem and disabled all of those phones , what do you think would happen to Apple 's iPhone sales ?
Nobody is going to buy and use a smartphone that is routinely riddled with viruses , worms , and every other form of malware .
That 's why Apple requires developer to submit their code for review before it goes live on the App Store ; that 's why Apple does n't allow apps that permit users to write their own executable code ; and that 's why Apple put a kill switch in the iPhone OS--so Steve Jobs could nuke a virus across the entire iPhone ecosystem if one ever did manage to through all of those other security layers.And given that I might need to use an iPhone to call 911 someday , I 'm glad that Steve Jobs has all that security in place and did n't bend to the whims of loudmouthed Stallman disciples who insist they should be able to hack their iPhone software any which way they please .
Because when the moment comes that I dial 911 , the last thing I want to see is a screen pop up that says " U bin pwned noob !
" I bet that Haitian earthquake victim who was able to use his iPhone to lead rescuers to his position is mighty glad that it " just worked " when he desperately needed it to .
So suck it up and deal with the fact that vastly more people consider their iPhone an indispensable tool that needs to work 99.999 \ % of the time than as a geek toy best used for cobbling together handheld Beowulf clusters to earn bragging rights on Slashdot.A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic and relatively easily accomplishable .
It would come with no extra drawbacks for the user whatsoever.First , the current iPhone OS is a near-full MacOS X with an iPhone GUI .
The missing OS chunks are those that are n't useful for a handheld device with a 3 " screen .
Second , we know exactly jack about how Apple might be planning to fork the iPhone OS for the iPad to allow for additional features useful on a device with a 10 " screen and a more powerful CPU .
Third , the device wo n't even hit the market for another six weeks and it 's entirely possible that they might add a few nifty features to it in that time that Jobs did n't demo last month .
Fourth , all of these criticisms are stemming from that one 90-minute demo that Steve Jobs &amp; co. gave of iPad beta version .095 , wherein they showed off only the features most likely to appeal to the widest audience.Not one person in this thread slamming the iPad has laid hands on one .
What say all of you wait until March , then go to an Apple Store and actually play with an iPad before you deign to tell us how Apple should reengineer the device according to your own personal specs ?
Or better yet , if you know so well what it takes to build a tablet computer that will the masses would just die for ( noting that Microsoft and many other companies have failed over the last decade despite multiple attempts ) why do n't you build one yourself and put it out there for the rest of us to tear apart ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you say it "doesn't carry the drawbacks of a computer," you're simply being dishonest: it would cost nothing in user experience to allow multitasking or free installation of software.Gee, I guess that why Windows and Linux are both so user friendly and require so little tech support compared to the iPhone and iPod Touch.You people amaze me.
Three years the iPhone has been out there and you still don't get why Apple doesn't allow free installation of software.
It's not merely about profit, it's about security.
Apple has set itself up as a software install bottleneck because the iPhone is running a near-full version of MacOS X, which means that moron 14-year old's could write malware for it.
If one virus got loose on the iPhone ecosystem and disabled all of those phones, what do you think would happen to Apple's iPhone sales?
Nobody is going to buy and use a smartphone that is routinely riddled with viruses, worms, and every other form of malware.
That's why Apple requires developer to submit their code for review before it goes live on the App Store; that's why Apple doesn't allow apps that permit users to write their own executable code; and that's why Apple put a kill switch in the iPhone OS--so Steve Jobs could nuke a virus across the entire iPhone ecosystem if one ever did manage to through all of those other security layers.And given that I might need to use an iPhone to call 911 someday, I'm glad that Steve Jobs has all that security in place and didn't bend to the whims of loudmouthed Stallman disciples who insist they should be able to hack their iPhone software any which way they please.
Because when the moment comes that I dial 911, the last thing I want to see is a screen pop up that says "U bin pwned noob!
" I bet that Haitian earthquake victim who was able to use his iPhone to lead rescuers to his position is mighty glad that it "just worked" when he desperately needed it to.
So suck it up and deal with the fact that vastly more people consider their iPhone an indispensable tool that needs to work 99.999\% of the time than as a geek toy best used for cobbling together handheld Beowulf clusters to earn bragging rights on Slashdot.A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic and relatively easily accomplishable.
It would come with no extra drawbacks for the user whatsoever.First, the current iPhone OS is a near-full MacOS X with an iPhone GUI.
The missing OS chunks are those that aren't useful for a handheld device with a 3" screen.
Second, we know exactly jack about how Apple might be planning to fork the iPhone OS for the iPad to allow for additional features useful on a device with a 10" screen and a more powerful CPU.
Third, the device won't even hit the market for another six weeks and it's entirely possible that they might add a few nifty features to it in that time that Jobs didn't demo last month.
Fourth, all of these criticisms are stemming from that one 90-minute demo that Steve Jobs &amp; co. gave of iPad beta version .095, wherein they showed off only the features most likely to appeal to the widest audience.Not one person in this thread slamming the iPad has laid hands on one.
What say all of you wait until March, then go to an Apple Store and actually play with an iPad before you deign to tell us how Apple should reengineer the device according to your own personal specs?
Or better yet, if you know so well what it takes to build a tablet computer that will the masses would just die for (noting that Microsoft and many other companies have failed over the last decade despite multiple attempts) why don't you build one yourself and put it out there for the rest of us to tear apart?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072438</id>
	<title>Oversized Ipod Touch</title>
	<author>leon.gandalf</author>
	<datestamp>1265732940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I the only person that sees this thing as nothing more than a faster bigger Ipod Touch? All the same limitations, and missing features.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only person that sees this thing as nothing more than a faster bigger Ipod Touch ?
All the same limitations , and missing features .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only person that sees this thing as nothing more than a faster bigger Ipod Touch?
All the same limitations, and missing features.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31077830</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265709780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>do you ever sit on the couch, watch TV and see something that you want to lookup? You pull out your iphone/blackberry/whatever and futz with its size and wish you had a computer nearby to load a site? But not interested in grabbing the laptop and sinking into that world?</p><p>There you go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>do you ever sit on the couch , watch TV and see something that you want to lookup ?
You pull out your iphone/blackberry/whatever and futz with its size and wish you had a computer nearby to load a site ?
But not interested in grabbing the laptop and sinking into that world ? There you go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>do you ever sit on the couch, watch TV and see something that you want to lookup?
You pull out your iphone/blackberry/whatever and futz with its size and wish you had a computer nearby to load a site?
But not interested in grabbing the laptop and sinking into that world?There you go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072836</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265734560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There's a reason why you guys are called a cult: you are one.</i><br>Thank you, Pot, for calling the Kettle black.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a reason why you guys are called a cult : you are one.Thank you , Pot , for calling the Kettle black .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a reason why you guys are called a cult: you are one.Thank you, Pot, for calling the Kettle black.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070392</id>
	<title>Re:Just pollin'</title>
	<author>buckhead\_buddy</author>
	<datestamp>1265719020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>... My question is this: does anyone there actually own something that could be seen as a precursor to this machine ?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I mean, the iPod was launched in an existing portable MP3-player market, the iPhone was launched in an existing (even crowded) mobile phone market.  This makes me wonder, since I do not have anything that looks like an iPad already (I don't need it) - is there a widespread need for this product ?...</p></div><p>The larger bookstore chains in the US all have floor space dedicated to eBook readers. Barnes &amp; Noble (and subsidiaries like WaldenBooks) are all pushing the B&amp;N branded "Nook". Competitors like Borders show off the Sony eReaders and their kin. They typically have a functional unit tethered to a display stand that's loaded with eBooks. Some smaller stores have non-functional display units. And some just have paper flyers.</p><p>Though eBook readers are more common to see in airports rather than coffee shops, the segment of the American public that visits bookstores is aware of what they are and what the current versions have to offer. Certainly over Christmas 2009 these things were promoted well beyond stores' capability to deliver them, but whether that was due to low supplies or high demand isn't clear. They did appear to outstrip sales expectations over Christmas.</p></div>
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<tokenext>... My question is this : does anyone there actually own something that could be seen as a precursor to this machine ?
... I mean , the iPod was launched in an existing portable MP3-player market , the iPhone was launched in an existing ( even crowded ) mobile phone market .
This makes me wonder , since I do not have anything that looks like an iPad already ( I do n't need it ) - is there a widespread need for this product ? ...The larger bookstore chains in the US all have floor space dedicated to eBook readers .
Barnes &amp; Noble ( and subsidiaries like WaldenBooks ) are all pushing the B&amp;N branded " Nook " .
Competitors like Borders show off the Sony eReaders and their kin .
They typically have a functional unit tethered to a display stand that 's loaded with eBooks .
Some smaller stores have non-functional display units .
And some just have paper flyers.Though eBook readers are more common to see in airports rather than coffee shops , the segment of the American public that visits bookstores is aware of what they are and what the current versions have to offer .
Certainly over Christmas 2009 these things were promoted well beyond stores ' capability to deliver them , but whether that was due to low supplies or high demand is n't clear .
They did appear to outstrip sales expectations over Christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... My question is this: does anyone there actually own something that could be seen as a precursor to this machine ?
... I mean, the iPod was launched in an existing portable MP3-player market, the iPhone was launched in an existing (even crowded) mobile phone market.
This makes me wonder, since I do not have anything that looks like an iPad already (I don't need it) - is there a widespread need for this product ?...The larger bookstore chains in the US all have floor space dedicated to eBook readers.
Barnes &amp; Noble (and subsidiaries like WaldenBooks) are all pushing the B&amp;N branded "Nook".
Competitors like Borders show off the Sony eReaders and their kin.
They typically have a functional unit tethered to a display stand that's loaded with eBooks.
Some smaller stores have non-functional display units.
And some just have paper flyers.Though eBook readers are more common to see in airports rather than coffee shops, the segment of the American public that visits bookstores is aware of what they are and what the current versions have to offer.
Certainly over Christmas 2009 these things were promoted well beyond stores' capability to deliver them, but whether that was due to low supplies or high demand isn't clear.
They did appear to outstrip sales expectations over Christmas.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070194</id>
	<title>Well I'll be... Could it be that the cry</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1265716440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>of "But the Emperor's wearing nothing at all!" comes not from a child, but from a member of the 4th estate?</p><p>Colour me shocked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>of " But the Emperor 's wearing nothing at all !
" comes not from a child , but from a member of the 4th estate ? Colour me shocked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>of "But the Emperor's wearing nothing at all!
" comes not from a child, but from a member of the 4th estate?Colour me shocked.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073996</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Nebrie</author>
	<datestamp>1265738640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wrong. The Ipad isn't built for Apple's customers, it's built for Apple.</p><p>When you say it "doesn't carry the drawbacks of a computer", you're simply  being dishonest: it would cost <i>nothing</i> in user experience to allow multitasking or free installation of software. A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic, and relatively easily accomplishable. It would come with no extra draw-backs for the user whatsoever. And you know this perfectly well.</p><p>But this would cost <i>Apple</i> a lot, in that a user with choice wouldn't be tied to iTunes. The question is: why are you being dishonest? Apple probably doesn't pay you a cent for your work as a freelance advertising agent. And why is this bullshit so prevalent among Apple fanboys? There's a reason why you guys are called a cult: you are one.</p></div><p>Have you actually used a desktop OS with a touchscreen?  I have and they are all gimmicky.  Go grab a netbook with a 10" screen.  Start sticking your finger all over the screen.  Start with the max/min/close buttons and note how your finger more than covered up all three.  That's just the start.  Almost every UI element is too damn small to be touched or too damn close to something else that you don't want to accidentally press.

Microsoft has failed hard over the last decade with tablets because they have engineers like you who only think about the spec sheet and have never actually sat down and tried to use their own product.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Wrong .
The Ipad is n't built for Apple 's customers , it 's built for Apple.When you say it " does n't carry the drawbacks of a computer " , you 're simply being dishonest : it would cost nothing in user experience to allow multitasking or free installation of software .
A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic , and relatively easily accomplishable .
It would come with no extra draw-backs for the user whatsoever .
And you know this perfectly well.But this would cost Apple a lot , in that a user with choice would n't be tied to iTunes .
The question is : why are you being dishonest ?
Apple probably does n't pay you a cent for your work as a freelance advertising agent .
And why is this bullshit so prevalent among Apple fanboys ?
There 's a reason why you guys are called a cult : you are one.Have you actually used a desktop OS with a touchscreen ?
I have and they are all gimmicky .
Go grab a netbook with a 10 " screen .
Start sticking your finger all over the screen .
Start with the max/min/close buttons and note how your finger more than covered up all three .
That 's just the start .
Almost every UI element is too damn small to be touched or too damn close to something else that you do n't want to accidentally press .
Microsoft has failed hard over the last decade with tablets because they have engineers like you who only think about the spec sheet and have never actually sat down and tried to use their own product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wrong.
The Ipad isn't built for Apple's customers, it's built for Apple.When you say it "doesn't carry the drawbacks of a computer", you're simply  being dishonest: it would cost nothing in user experience to allow multitasking or free installation of software.
A full OS X with the iPhone GUI would be fantastic, and relatively easily accomplishable.
It would come with no extra draw-backs for the user whatsoever.
And you know this perfectly well.But this would cost Apple a lot, in that a user with choice wouldn't be tied to iTunes.
The question is: why are you being dishonest?
Apple probably doesn't pay you a cent for your work as a freelance advertising agent.
And why is this bullshit so prevalent among Apple fanboys?
There's a reason why you guys are called a cult: you are one.Have you actually used a desktop OS with a touchscreen?
I have and they are all gimmicky.
Go grab a netbook with a 10" screen.
Start sticking your finger all over the screen.
Start with the max/min/close buttons and note how your finger more than covered up all three.
That's just the start.
Almost every UI element is too damn small to be touched or too damn close to something else that you don't want to accidentally press.
Microsoft has failed hard over the last decade with tablets because they have engineers like you who only think about the spec sheet and have never actually sat down and tried to use their own product.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073488</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265736900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Purpose of the ipad:</p><ul><li>Play video files on a comfortable screen while I'm doing cardio at the gym.</li><li>Browse web in non-sitting positions.</li></ul> </div><p>Gee, have you tried extreme ironing yet?<br>It might be just for you:<br>http://ursispaltenstein.ch/blog/images/uploads\_img/extreme\_ironing.jpg</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Purpose of the ipad : Play video files on a comfortable screen while I 'm doing cardio at the gym.Browse web in non-sitting positions .
Gee , have you tried extreme ironing yet ? It might be just for you : http : //ursispaltenstein.ch/blog/images/uploads \ _img/extreme \ _ironing.jpg</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Purpose of the ipad:Play video files on a comfortable screen while I'm doing cardio at the gym.Browse web in non-sitting positions.
Gee, have you tried extreme ironing yet?It might be just for you:http://ursispaltenstein.ch/blog/images/uploads\_img/extreme\_ironing.jpg
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070122</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>AliasMarlowe</author>
	<datestamp>1265715540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The whole iPad is completely locked.</p></div><p>Even a locked device can be very useful, if it accomplishes an attractive set of purposes economically and well. If it does not, then it needs to be unlocked, so that people can rectify its deficiencies or add other features that they want. Alternatively, the device needs to drop down the price scale until its locked performance is economically sound. The value proposition of the iPad is very questionable, IMO, but could be improved in a number of ways even while remaining locked.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The whole iPad is completely locked.Even a locked device can be very useful , if it accomplishes an attractive set of purposes economically and well .
If it does not , then it needs to be unlocked , so that people can rectify its deficiencies or add other features that they want .
Alternatively , the device needs to drop down the price scale until its locked performance is economically sound .
The value proposition of the iPad is very questionable , IMO , but could be improved in a number of ways even while remaining locked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The whole iPad is completely locked.Even a locked device can be very useful, if it accomplishes an attractive set of purposes economically and well.
If it does not, then it needs to be unlocked, so that people can rectify its deficiencies or add other features that they want.
Alternatively, the device needs to drop down the price scale until its locked performance is economically sound.
The value proposition of the iPad is very questionable, IMO, but could be improved in a number of ways even while remaining locked.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31089860</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>aggie\_knight</author>
	<datestamp>1265057400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I believe you are being disingenuous here.  All you have to do is play with a windows mobile phone for 10 minutes to understand how much multi-tasking can affect the customer's experience.  Several of my friends have them and are constantly complaining about how unresponsive and slow they are.  <br> <br>
Part of the problem is obviously Windows Mobile, but you have to keep in mind that these are devices are using processors that are much weaker than what you find in today's computer/notebook.  I don't doubt that Apple is working on multi-tasking for the iPhone/iPad, but until they implement it in such a way that it doesn't bog down the device and can provide an easy to use method for killing things running in the background - I don't want it.
<br> <br>
I work in Telco, and have yet to see a modern device that provides both of those, so No thank you, I'll stick with my single tasking iPhone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe you are being disingenuous here .
All you have to do is play with a windows mobile phone for 10 minutes to understand how much multi-tasking can affect the customer 's experience .
Several of my friends have them and are constantly complaining about how unresponsive and slow they are .
Part of the problem is obviously Windows Mobile , but you have to keep in mind that these are devices are using processors that are much weaker than what you find in today 's computer/notebook .
I do n't doubt that Apple is working on multi-tasking for the iPhone/iPad , but until they implement it in such a way that it does n't bog down the device and can provide an easy to use method for killing things running in the background - I do n't want it .
I work in Telco , and have yet to see a modern device that provides both of those , so No thank you , I 'll stick with my single tasking iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe you are being disingenuous here.
All you have to do is play with a windows mobile phone for 10 minutes to understand how much multi-tasking can affect the customer's experience.
Several of my friends have them and are constantly complaining about how unresponsive and slow they are.
Part of the problem is obviously Windows Mobile, but you have to keep in mind that these are devices are using processors that are much weaker than what you find in today's computer/notebook.
I don't doubt that Apple is working on multi-tasking for the iPhone/iPad, but until they implement it in such a way that it doesn't bog down the device and can provide an easy to use method for killing things running in the background - I don't want it.
I work in Telco, and have yet to see a modern device that provides both of those, so No thank you, I'll stick with my single tasking iPhone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31072764</id>
	<title>Of course.</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1265734320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>My only question is: Will I be able to put my own Operating System on it?</i></p><p>Obviously the answer is yes.  The hardware is compelling enough you are sure to see a linux port.</p><p>At the very least, we'll also see jailbreaks for this which means you have a fully open UNIX system you add what you want to, with the Apple UI still in place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My only question is : Will I be able to put my own Operating System on it ? Obviously the answer is yes .
The hardware is compelling enough you are sure to see a linux port.At the very least , we 'll also see jailbreaks for this which means you have a fully open UNIX system you add what you want to , with the Apple UI still in place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My only question is: Will I be able to put my own Operating System on it?Obviously the answer is yes.
The hardware is compelling enough you are sure to see a linux port.At the very least, we'll also see jailbreaks for this which means you have a fully open UNIX system you add what you want to, with the Apple UI still in place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070132</id>
	<title>seat</title>
	<author>StripedCow</author>
	<datestamp>1265715660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sigh, when do people get it.</p><p>With the iphone, ipod and ipad, you do not buy a full fledged computational platform... you only rent a seat in a theatre.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sigh , when do people get it.With the iphone , ipod and ipad , you do not buy a full fledged computational platform... you only rent a seat in a theatre .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sigh, when do people get it.With the iphone, ipod and ipad, you do not buy a full fledged computational platform... you only rent a seat in a theatre.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070594</id>
	<title>Re:Answers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265721300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPod Nano and iPod Touch are two very different iPods.  The iPod Nano doesn't support e-mail, let alone Exchange.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPod Nano and iPod Touch are two very different iPods .
The iPod Nano does n't support e-mail , let alone Exchange .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPod Nano and iPod Touch are two very different iPods.
The iPod Nano doesn't support e-mail, let alone Exchange.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070446</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265719620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a device to do everything an iphone does (except voice calls)  with more screen real estate.  if you use your iphone for a lot of stuff other than voice calls this will probably be pretty cool.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a device to do everything an iphone does ( except voice calls ) with more screen real estate .
if you use your iphone for a lot of stuff other than voice calls this will probably be pretty cool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a device to do everything an iphone does (except voice calls)  with more screen real estate.
if you use your iphone for a lot of stuff other than voice calls this will probably be pretty cool.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070232</id>
	<title>Re:What is the purpose of the ipad?</title>
	<author>Fzz</author>
	<datestamp>1265716680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Register got it right.  It's a <a href="http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/01/28/ipad\_equals\_tv/" title="reghardware.co.uk">portable TV</a> [reghardware.co.uk] for the 21st century.  If you think of it that way, you will be less disappointed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Register got it right .
It 's a portable TV [ reghardware.co.uk ] for the 21st century .
If you think of it that way , you will be less disappointed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Register got it right.
It's a portable TV [reghardware.co.uk] for the 21st century.
If you think of it that way, you will be less disappointed.</sentencetext>
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	<title>I would've asked the same thing a week ago</title>
	<author>snowwrestler</author>
	<datestamp>1265710260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When they didn't announce the iPhone on Verizon at the Apple special event, I decided to get an iPod Touch. I've wanted an iPhone but I am NOT switching from Verizon to AT&amp;T just to get one.</p><p>Shortly thereafter, Snowpocalypse 2010 descended (I live in DC) and I've basically been snowed in since last week. In that time I have barely touched my laptop (MacBook Pro) or my Blackberry (from employer). I've just gravitated toward the Touch. It's much faster and easier to pick it up and browse the news sites, Facebook, and check my e-mail than my laptop, and it's much easier to read and interact with than my Blackberry. My Blackberry buzzes with a new e-mail and I pick up the Touch to read and respond. I want to know the latest on the upcoming storm (yet another one due to start any minute), and I pick up the Touch and hit a couple of Web sites.</p><p>There's not a clear, cut-and-dry feature list that makes it so. But in a week it's become my primary way of going online and reading and interacting. The only thing it doesn't work well for is extended missives (like this, which I'm typing on my laptop). For short responses though the touch keyboard is ok.</p><p>The iPad seemed like an "eh" when I read up on it, but now, having used the Touch, it's much more interesting for me. It would be great to have the same ease of use but a bigger screen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When they did n't announce the iPhone on Verizon at the Apple special event , I decided to get an iPod Touch .
I 've wanted an iPhone but I am NOT switching from Verizon to AT&amp;T just to get one.Shortly thereafter , Snowpocalypse 2010 descended ( I live in DC ) and I 've basically been snowed in since last week .
In that time I have barely touched my laptop ( MacBook Pro ) or my Blackberry ( from employer ) .
I 've just gravitated toward the Touch .
It 's much faster and easier to pick it up and browse the news sites , Facebook , and check my e-mail than my laptop , and it 's much easier to read and interact with than my Blackberry .
My Blackberry buzzes with a new e-mail and I pick up the Touch to read and respond .
I want to know the latest on the upcoming storm ( yet another one due to start any minute ) , and I pick up the Touch and hit a couple of Web sites.There 's not a clear , cut-and-dry feature list that makes it so .
But in a week it 's become my primary way of going online and reading and interacting .
The only thing it does n't work well for is extended missives ( like this , which I 'm typing on my laptop ) .
For short responses though the touch keyboard is ok.The iPad seemed like an " eh " when I read up on it , but now , having used the Touch , it 's much more interesting for me .
It would be great to have the same ease of use but a bigger screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When they didn't announce the iPhone on Verizon at the Apple special event, I decided to get an iPod Touch.
I've wanted an iPhone but I am NOT switching from Verizon to AT&amp;T just to get one.Shortly thereafter, Snowpocalypse 2010 descended (I live in DC) and I've basically been snowed in since last week.
In that time I have barely touched my laptop (MacBook Pro) or my Blackberry (from employer).
I've just gravitated toward the Touch.
It's much faster and easier to pick it up and browse the news sites, Facebook, and check my e-mail than my laptop, and it's much easier to read and interact with than my Blackberry.
My Blackberry buzzes with a new e-mail and I pick up the Touch to read and respond.
I want to know the latest on the upcoming storm (yet another one due to start any minute), and I pick up the Touch and hit a couple of Web sites.There's not a clear, cut-and-dry feature list that makes it so.
But in a week it's become my primary way of going online and reading and interacting.
The only thing it doesn't work well for is extended missives (like this, which I'm typing on my laptop).
For short responses though the touch keyboard is ok.The iPad seemed like an "eh" when I read up on it, but now, having used the Touch, it's much more interesting for me.
It would be great to have the same ease of use but a bigger screen.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31070442</id>
	<title>My one and only question.</title>
	<author>nicknamenotavailable</author>
	<datestamp>1265719560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple excels at creating beauty, in both hardware and software (BTW, I'm using an Imac right now). This iPad is no exception.<br>My only question is: Will I be able to put my own Operating System on it?</p><p>The old G3,G4,G5 macs were open enough so that I could load my own OS on them (sometimes BSD, sometimes Linux).<br>The same goes with the current Intel macs.<br>While I sometimes marvel at the beauty of OS X and how Apple has created a user friendly UNIX, I want more freedom.</p><p>Unless Apple is open enough to let us (the minority) play and tinker with the internals so that we can install an OS that<br>might be visually inferior(to most) but is philosophically superior, unless Apple can allow us to do this - I will never buy one.</p><p>I will patiently wait until the other players create a tablet that will run x86.</p><p>All the other stuff in the article is not much use to me, all I need is make; make install.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple excels at creating beauty , in both hardware and software ( BTW , I 'm using an Imac right now ) .
This iPad is no exception.My only question is : Will I be able to put my own Operating System on it ? The old G3,G4,G5 macs were open enough so that I could load my own OS on them ( sometimes BSD , sometimes Linux ) .The same goes with the current Intel macs.While I sometimes marvel at the beauty of OS X and how Apple has created a user friendly UNIX , I want more freedom.Unless Apple is open enough to let us ( the minority ) play and tinker with the internals so that we can install an OS thatmight be visually inferior ( to most ) but is philosophically superior , unless Apple can allow us to do this - I will never buy one.I will patiently wait until the other players create a tablet that will run x86.All the other stuff in the article is not much use to me , all I need is make ; make install .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple excels at creating beauty, in both hardware and software (BTW, I'm using an Imac right now).
This iPad is no exception.My only question is: Will I be able to put my own Operating System on it?The old G3,G4,G5 macs were open enough so that I could load my own OS on them (sometimes BSD, sometimes Linux).The same goes with the current Intel macs.While I sometimes marvel at the beauty of OS X and how Apple has created a user friendly UNIX, I want more freedom.Unless Apple is open enough to let us (the minority) play and tinker with the internals so that we can install an OS thatmight be visually inferior(to most) but is philosophically superior, unless Apple can allow us to do this - I will never buy one.I will patiently wait until the other players create a tablet that will run x86.All the other stuff in the article is not much use to me, all I need is make; make install.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31073934</id>
	<title>Re:Bitter he's not at the party</title>
	<author>Pointy\_Hair</author>
	<datestamp>1265738400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My thoughts exactly. It's a big iPod Touch, or iPhone without the camera and data-only cell port. The functionality ought to be about the same. Not exactly, but that's why there's a features link on the Apple home page. Since it's not for sale yet, that features page will probably change in the coming weeks as well.</p><p>Thing is, everyone is so full of Apple hate that they can't process the new product. It's a pretty focused gadget that will appeal to a few and not appeal to many. If the thing doesn't fit into your use habits or brand preferences, don't buy one! I will probably check one out the next time I pass by the Apple store at the mall, but probably won't buy one or even make a special trip to the store to look one over. From what I've seen so far, it's a neat gadget that really doesn't do anything useful enough for me to spend the bucks and buy one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My thoughts exactly .
It 's a big iPod Touch , or iPhone without the camera and data-only cell port .
The functionality ought to be about the same .
Not exactly , but that 's why there 's a features link on the Apple home page .
Since it 's not for sale yet , that features page will probably change in the coming weeks as well.Thing is , everyone is so full of Apple hate that they ca n't process the new product .
It 's a pretty focused gadget that will appeal to a few and not appeal to many .
If the thing does n't fit into your use habits or brand preferences , do n't buy one !
I will probably check one out the next time I pass by the Apple store at the mall , but probably wo n't buy one or even make a special trip to the store to look one over .
From what I 've seen so far , it 's a neat gadget that really does n't do anything useful enough for me to spend the bucks and buy one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My thoughts exactly.
It's a big iPod Touch, or iPhone without the camera and data-only cell port.
The functionality ought to be about the same.
Not exactly, but that's why there's a features link on the Apple home page.
Since it's not for sale yet, that features page will probably change in the coming weeks as well.Thing is, everyone is so full of Apple hate that they can't process the new product.
It's a pretty focused gadget that will appeal to a few and not appeal to many.
If the thing doesn't fit into your use habits or brand preferences, don't buy one!
I will probably check one out the next time I pass by the Apple store at the mall, but probably won't buy one or even make a special trip to the store to look one over.
From what I've seen so far, it's a neat gadget that really doesn't do anything useful enough for me to spend the bucks and buy one.</sentencetext>
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	<title>strawman article</title>
	<author>SethJohnson</author>
	<datestamp>1265716980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can the iPad display 8 questions in HTML without having to spread them across 6 pages festooned with advertisements? Perhaps the object of the author's criticism is a more efficient content delivery platform than his employer's website.<br> <br>Seth</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can the iPad display 8 questions in HTML without having to spread them across 6 pages festooned with advertisements ?
Perhaps the object of the author 's criticism is a more efficient content delivery platform than his employer 's website .
Seth</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can the iPad display 8 questions in HTML without having to spread them across 6 pages festooned with advertisements?
Perhaps the object of the author's criticism is a more efficient content delivery platform than his employer's website.
Seth</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0150204.31071750</id>
	<title>Gah, my ears.</title>
	<author>\_4rp4n3t</author>
	<datestamp>1265729400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's been a lot of good discussion here about the device, (it's capabilities, it's pricing), the pros and cons of open versus closed hardware at a given price point, market need, etc etc. I'd guess a good majority of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. readers are well enough informed about the iPad to be able (to a greater or lesser degree) to make a fairly informed choice about whether the product is suitable for them or not.
<p>
The thing that gets my goat though, is that due to the Jobs effect, and the massive marketing might of Apple, a vast number of poor schmos will end up owning one of these devices without really knowing <i>why</i>.
</p><p>'So what', I hear you cry; 'caveat emptor'!
</p><p>
The problem is, that I'm gonna have to listen to these clueless boguns banging on about their shitty iPads for years...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's been a lot of good discussion here about the device , ( it 's capabilities , it 's pricing ) , the pros and cons of open versus closed hardware at a given price point , market need , etc etc .
I 'd guess a good majority of / .
readers are well enough informed about the iPad to be able ( to a greater or lesser degree ) to make a fairly informed choice about whether the product is suitable for them or not .
The thing that gets my goat though , is that due to the Jobs effect , and the massive marketing might of Apple , a vast number of poor schmos will end up owning one of these devices without really knowing why .
'So what ' , I hear you cry ; 'caveat emptor ' !
The problem is , that I 'm gon na have to listen to these clueless boguns banging on about their shitty iPads for years.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's been a lot of good discussion here about the device, (it's capabilities, it's pricing), the pros and cons of open versus closed hardware at a given price point, market need, etc etc.
I'd guess a good majority of /.
readers are well enough informed about the iPad to be able (to a greater or lesser degree) to make a fairly informed choice about whether the product is suitable for them or not.
The thing that gets my goat though, is that due to the Jobs effect, and the massive marketing might of Apple, a vast number of poor schmos will end up owning one of these devices without really knowing why.
'So what', I hear you cry; 'caveat emptor'!
The problem is, that I'm gonna have to listen to these clueless boguns banging on about their shitty iPads for years...</sentencetext>
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