<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_08_1551220</id>
	<title>Nexus One First Phone Linus Torvalds "Doesn't Hate"</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1265646600000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>SpuriousLogic writes <i>"Linus Torvalds, the inventor of the Linux kernel, has an absolute disdain for mobile phones. All of the ones he has purchased in the past, the man writes on his personal blog, ended up being 'mostly used for playing <em>Galaga</em> and <em>Solitaire</em> on long flights' even though they were naturally all phones run on open source operating systems.  Things have changed now, he adds, now that he has <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/07/AR2010020701126.html">caved and bought Google's Nexus One</a> a couple of days ago."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>SpuriousLogic writes " Linus Torvalds , the inventor of the Linux kernel , has an absolute disdain for mobile phones .
All of the ones he has purchased in the past , the man writes on his personal blog , ended up being 'mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights ' even though they were naturally all phones run on open source operating systems .
Things have changed now , he adds , now that he has caved and bought Google 's Nexus One a couple of days ago .
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<sentencetext>SpuriousLogic writes "Linus Torvalds, the inventor of the Linux kernel, has an absolute disdain for mobile phones.
All of the ones he has purchased in the past, the man writes on his personal blog, ended up being 'mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights' even though they were naturally all phones run on open source operating systems.
Things have changed now, he adds, now that he has caved and bought Google's Nexus One a couple of days ago.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31068582</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1265648280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why?</i></p><p>Some people think it's wise to listen to what a mechanic thinks of a new car.  Much less the head of engineering at a car company...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why ? Some people think it 's wise to listen to what a mechanic thinks of a new car .
Much less the head of engineering at a car company.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why?Some people think it's wise to listen to what a mechanic thinks of a new car.
Much less the head of engineering at a car company...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061586</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061636</id>
	<title>Re:He bought one?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265650920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The least companies could do is send him a free one with service contract.</p></div><p>Well, it's not <b>technically</b> Linux these phones use, as it's now an incompatible <a href="http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/02/03/1932222/Android-and-the-Linux-Kernel-Community" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Linux fork</a> [slashdot.org]. So, I guess like the authors of this article, the company told Linus to go <a href="http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/02/03/android\_driver\_code\_deleted\_from\_linux\_kernel/" title="reghardware.co.uk" rel="nofollow">fork himself</a> [reghardware.co.uk].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The least companies could do is send him a free one with service contract.Well , it 's not technically Linux these phones use , as it 's now an incompatible Linux fork [ slashdot.org ] .
So , I guess like the authors of this article , the company told Linus to go fork himself [ reghardware.co.uk ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The least companies could do is send him a free one with service contract.Well, it's not technically Linux these phones use, as it's now an incompatible Linux fork [slashdot.org].
So, I guess like the authors of this article, the company told Linus to go fork himself [reghardware.co.uk].
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061494</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062570</id>
	<title>IDK what phones you've used, but I've had</title>
	<author>DRAGONWEEZEL</author>
	<datestamp>1265655720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a new phone every year for the last 10 years. Even one of my first phones, some Nokia from 2000, could play snake and solitaire.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a new phone every year for the last 10 years .
Even one of my first phones , some Nokia from 2000 , could play snake and solitaire .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a new phone every year for the last 10 years.
Even one of my first phones, some Nokia from 2000, could play snake and solitaire.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061680</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063444</id>
	<title>Re:I know I'm old fashioned, but...</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1265659740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I heard a story on NPR about the poor voice quality on cell phones. I thought it was a bandwidth issue, when in reality it's a simply a "good enough, so why spend more money on it" issue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard a story on NPR about the poor voice quality on cell phones .
I thought it was a bandwidth issue , when in reality it 's a simply a " good enough , so why spend more money on it " issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard a story on NPR about the poor voice quality on cell phones.
I thought it was a bandwidth issue, when in reality it's a simply a "good enough, so why spend more money on it" issue.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061680</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063134</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1265658240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google Android navigation requires data connection to work (which it does only in the US, apparently...), making it much worse then standalone GPS devices or Nokia Ovi Maps (the latter is essentially identical to standalone GPS, but the updates are free)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google Android navigation requires data connection to work ( which it does only in the US , apparently... ) , making it much worse then standalone GPS devices or Nokia Ovi Maps ( the latter is essentially identical to standalone GPS , but the updates are free )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google Android navigation requires data connection to work (which it does only in the US, apparently...), making it much worse then standalone GPS devices or Nokia Ovi Maps (the latter is essentially identical to standalone GPS, but the updates are free)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062074</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061548</id>
	<title>He hates mobile phones?!</title>
	<author>SaidinUnleashed</author>
	<datestamp>1265650500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>How can a Finnish man hate mobile phones?! Aren't they like the national bird there, or something?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How can a Finnish man hate mobile phones ? !
Are n't they like the national bird there , or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can a Finnish man hate mobile phones?!
Aren't they like the national bird there, or something?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061898</id>
	<title>Re:Mislabelled</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265652120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Android is actually NOT GNU/Linux..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Android is actually NOT GNU/Linux. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Android is actually NOT GNU/Linux..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061736</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31071028</id>
	<title>Re:He bought one?</title>
	<author>Demonoid-Penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1265725440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mod up as informative and concise. Please! (I'm out of points).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod up as informative and concise .
Please ! ( I 'm out of points ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod up as informative and concise.
Please! (I'm out of points).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062330</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063438</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1265659680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You're not "supposed" to care, it's just that a lot of us do as result of him being a celebrity among geeks. Besides, his viewpoint is more likely to be closer to ours, as a fellow geek, than that of Steve Jobs or any such marketeer that gets published by pop media.</p></div><p>He's exactly the sort of person I would want to hear give an opinion about this stuff. I may not agree with his opinion, time may prove him wrong, but it certainly provides an interesting starting point for a debate. Look at Clifford Stoll and his whole Silicon Snake Oil thing. He raised interesting questions about the internet and viability of e-commerce. I disagreed with his thesis and he has subsequently been proven wrong.</p><p>I'll listen to what a Jobs has to say. While I may not agree with all of his ideas, he has certainly had some winners over the years. He's someone who understands the industry. People I'd be less interested in listening to are Balmer and Gates. I don't think they really have a good grasp on the industry at this point and feel that we're living in the time future historians will point to as their decline years. I could be wrong, it's certainly good debate fodder, and time will prove it one way or another.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're not " supposed " to care , it 's just that a lot of us do as result of him being a celebrity among geeks .
Besides , his viewpoint is more likely to be closer to ours , as a fellow geek , than that of Steve Jobs or any such marketeer that gets published by pop media.He 's exactly the sort of person I would want to hear give an opinion about this stuff .
I may not agree with his opinion , time may prove him wrong , but it certainly provides an interesting starting point for a debate .
Look at Clifford Stoll and his whole Silicon Snake Oil thing .
He raised interesting questions about the internet and viability of e-commerce .
I disagreed with his thesis and he has subsequently been proven wrong.I 'll listen to what a Jobs has to say .
While I may not agree with all of his ideas , he has certainly had some winners over the years .
He 's someone who understands the industry .
People I 'd be less interested in listening to are Balmer and Gates .
I do n't think they really have a good grasp on the industry at this point and feel that we 're living in the time future historians will point to as their decline years .
I could be wrong , it 's certainly good debate fodder , and time will prove it one way or another .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're not "supposed" to care, it's just that a lot of us do as result of him being a celebrity among geeks.
Besides, his viewpoint is more likely to be closer to ours, as a fellow geek, than that of Steve Jobs or any such marketeer that gets published by pop media.He's exactly the sort of person I would want to hear give an opinion about this stuff.
I may not agree with his opinion, time may prove him wrong, but it certainly provides an interesting starting point for a debate.
Look at Clifford Stoll and his whole Silicon Snake Oil thing.
He raised interesting questions about the internet and viability of e-commerce.
I disagreed with his thesis and he has subsequently been proven wrong.I'll listen to what a Jobs has to say.
While I may not agree with all of his ideas, he has certainly had some winners over the years.
He's someone who understands the industry.
People I'd be less interested in listening to are Balmer and Gates.
I don't think they really have a good grasp on the industry at this point and feel that we're living in the time future historians will point to as their decline years.
I could be wrong, it's certainly good debate fodder, and time will prove it one way or another.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061976</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31067506</id>
	<title>computer first, phone second</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1265635920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I no longer feel like I'm dragging a phone with me "just in case" I would need to get in touch with somebody - now I'm having a useful (and admittedly pretty good-looking) gadget instead. The fact that you can use it as a phone too is kind of secondary.</p></div> </blockquote><p>This is because we've finally reached the point where that little computer you carry around in your pocket is actually a general-purpose computing device first and a phone second. Cell phone carriers in the U.S. don't want to sell computers. They want to sell phones. They want us to use minutes, send text messages, browse the web at $0.05/KB. They don't get any money when you use it for some non-phone purpose.</p><p>I don't currently have a reason to own a cell phone, but I bought an iPod Touch a month ago and can echo Linus's feelings. There are a few things that I absolutely <i>loathe</i> about this thing (the iTunes lock-in, the lack of a native podcast manager, the uber-restrictive development process) but on the whole it is really darn cool to have a fully-functional web browser in my pocket (almost) wherever I go. Along with email and apps for Twitter, Facebook, stock portfolio management, and so on. If they ever release something like the Nexus One without the phone part, I'd dump this iPod in a heartbeat.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I no longer feel like I 'm dragging a phone with me " just in case " I would need to get in touch with somebody - now I 'm having a useful ( and admittedly pretty good-looking ) gadget instead .
The fact that you can use it as a phone too is kind of secondary .
This is because we 've finally reached the point where that little computer you carry around in your pocket is actually a general-purpose computing device first and a phone second .
Cell phone carriers in the U.S. do n't want to sell computers .
They want to sell phones .
They want us to use minutes , send text messages , browse the web at $ 0.05/KB .
They do n't get any money when you use it for some non-phone purpose.I do n't currently have a reason to own a cell phone , but I bought an iPod Touch a month ago and can echo Linus 's feelings .
There are a few things that I absolutely loathe about this thing ( the iTunes lock-in , the lack of a native podcast manager , the uber-restrictive development process ) but on the whole it is really darn cool to have a fully-functional web browser in my pocket ( almost ) wherever I go .
Along with email and apps for Twitter , Facebook , stock portfolio management , and so on .
If they ever release something like the Nexus One without the phone part , I 'd dump this iPod in a heartbeat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I no longer feel like I'm dragging a phone with me "just in case" I would need to get in touch with somebody - now I'm having a useful (and admittedly pretty good-looking) gadget instead.
The fact that you can use it as a phone too is kind of secondary.
This is because we've finally reached the point where that little computer you carry around in your pocket is actually a general-purpose computing device first and a phone second.
Cell phone carriers in the U.S. don't want to sell computers.
They want to sell phones.
They want us to use minutes, send text messages, browse the web at $0.05/KB.
They don't get any money when you use it for some non-phone purpose.I don't currently have a reason to own a cell phone, but I bought an iPod Touch a month ago and can echo Linus's feelings.
There are a few things that I absolutely loathe about this thing (the iTunes lock-in, the lack of a native podcast manager, the uber-restrictive development process) but on the whole it is really darn cool to have a fully-functional web browser in my pocket (almost) wherever I go.
Along with email and apps for Twitter, Facebook, stock portfolio management, and so on.
If they ever release something like the Nexus One without the phone part, I'd dump this iPod in a heartbeat.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061874</id>
	<title>Re:He bought one?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265651940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love how smug he is in saying "the fact that it's a phone is secondary"</p><p>What a douche.</p><p>Telephone call quality and reliability first for me, Galaga and "that pinch-to-zoom thing" second...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love how smug he is in saying " the fact that it 's a phone is secondary " What a douche.Telephone call quality and reliability first for me , Galaga and " that pinch-to-zoom thing " second.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love how smug he is in saying "the fact that it's a phone is secondary"What a douche.Telephone call quality and reliability first for me, Galaga and "that pinch-to-zoom thing" second...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061494</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062060</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>0racle</author>
	<datestamp>1265652960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>For the same reason we're supposed to care what celebrities think about foreign policy and medical procedures.<br> <br>It's just more evidence of societies celebrity worship.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For the same reason we 're supposed to care what celebrities think about foreign policy and medical procedures .
It 's just more evidence of societies celebrity worship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the same reason we're supposed to care what celebrities think about foreign policy and medical procedures.
It's just more evidence of societies celebrity worship.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061586</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31065784</id>
	<title>slow news day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265626440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really don't see how this is even classed as news.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really do n't see how this is even classed as news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really don't see how this is even classed as news.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062074</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265653020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is using the Nexus One as a GPS any different than a dedicated GPS unit?  It has voice input and turn-by-turn voice prompts just like a "real" GPS so there's no need to touch it once you set it in the car dock. The experience of these post-2.0 Android phones is a lot different than the lousy Google Maps feature you'd find in lesser phones like an iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is using the Nexus One as a GPS any different than a dedicated GPS unit ?
It has voice input and turn-by-turn voice prompts just like a " real " GPS so there 's no need to touch it once you set it in the car dock .
The experience of these post-2.0 Android phones is a lot different than the lousy Google Maps feature you 'd find in lesser phones like an iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is using the Nexus One as a GPS any different than a dedicated GPS unit?
It has voice input and turn-by-turn voice prompts just like a "real" GPS so there's no need to touch it once you set it in the car dock.
The experience of these post-2.0 Android phones is a lot different than the lousy Google Maps feature you'd find in lesser phones like an iPhone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061510</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31065910</id>
	<title>Re:He bought one?</title>
	<author>crazycheetah</author>
	<datestamp>1265626980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone posted a link to his actual blog post below: <a href="http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2010/02/happy-camper.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2010/02/happy-camper.html</a> [blogspot.com]</p><p>taken from it:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I got the original G1 phone from google when it came out, and I hardly ever used it. Why? I generally hate phones - they are irritating and disturb you as you work or read or whatever - and a cellphone to me is just an opportunity to be irritated wherever you are. Which is not a good thing.</p><p>At the same time I love the concept of having a phone that runs Linux, and I've had a number of them over the years (in addition to the G1, I had one of the early China-only Motorola Linux phones) etc. But my hatred of phones ends up resulting in me not really ever using them. The G1, for example, ended up being mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights, since I had almost no reason to carry it with me except when traveling.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone posted a link to his actual blog post below : http : //torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2010/02/happy-camper.html [ blogspot.com ] taken from it : I got the original G1 phone from google when it came out , and I hardly ever used it .
Why ? I generally hate phones - they are irritating and disturb you as you work or read or whatever - and a cellphone to me is just an opportunity to be irritated wherever you are .
Which is not a good thing.At the same time I love the concept of having a phone that runs Linux , and I 've had a number of them over the years ( in addition to the G1 , I had one of the early China-only Motorola Linux phones ) etc .
But my hatred of phones ends up resulting in me not really ever using them .
The G1 , for example , ended up being mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights , since I had almost no reason to carry it with me except when traveling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone posted a link to his actual blog post below: http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2010/02/happy-camper.html [blogspot.com]taken from it:I got the original G1 phone from google when it came out, and I hardly ever used it.
Why? I generally hate phones - they are irritating and disturb you as you work or read or whatever - and a cellphone to me is just an opportunity to be irritated wherever you are.
Which is not a good thing.At the same time I love the concept of having a phone that runs Linux, and I've had a number of them over the years (in addition to the G1, I had one of the early China-only Motorola Linux phones) etc.
But my hatred of phones ends up resulting in me not really ever using them.
The G1, for example, ended up being mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights, since I had almost no reason to carry it with me except when traveling.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31065728</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>router</author>
	<datestamp>1265626320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He can haz cheeseburger?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He can haz cheeseburger ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He can haz cheeseburger?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061510</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061918</id>
	<title>Re:He bought one?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265652240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you'll find he's actually called GNU/Linus Torvalds - he's only responsible for the kernel, not the hardware, service contracts or any free gifts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 'll find he 's actually called GNU/Linus Torvalds - he 's only responsible for the kernel , not the hardware , service contracts or any free gifts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you'll find he's actually called GNU/Linus Torvalds - he's only responsible for the kernel, not the hardware, service contracts or any free gifts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061494</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061976</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>Draek</author>
	<datestamp>1265652540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're not "supposed" to care, it's just that a lot of us do as result of him being a celebrity among geeks. Besides, his viewpoint is more likely to be closer to ours, as a fellow geek, than that of Steve Jobs or any such marketeer that gets published by pop media.</p><p>This article certainly raised *my* interest in the Nexus One. Not enough to buy it blindly, but at least give it some consideration along with the N900 I was eyeing before.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're not " supposed " to care , it 's just that a lot of us do as result of him being a celebrity among geeks .
Besides , his viewpoint is more likely to be closer to ours , as a fellow geek , than that of Steve Jobs or any such marketeer that gets published by pop media.This article certainly raised * my * interest in the Nexus One .
Not enough to buy it blindly , but at least give it some consideration along with the N900 I was eyeing before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're not "supposed" to care, it's just that a lot of us do as result of him being a celebrity among geeks.
Besides, his viewpoint is more likely to be closer to ours, as a fellow geek, than that of Steve Jobs or any such marketeer that gets published by pop media.This article certainly raised *my* interest in the Nexus One.
Not enough to buy it blindly, but at least give it some consideration along with the N900 I was eyeing before.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062398</id>
	<title>Warning: nitpicking geeky comment</title>
	<author>jeroen94704</author>
	<datestamp>1265654880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It always ticks me off when people talk about a piece of software as being "invented". One doesn't "invent" software. Software is designed, implemented, engineered, developed. All of those things, and more, but not "invented".

Look it up in the dictionary.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It always ticks me off when people talk about a piece of software as being " invented " .
One does n't " invent " software .
Software is designed , implemented , engineered , developed .
All of those things , and more , but not " invented " .
Look it up in the dictionary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It always ticks me off when people talk about a piece of software as being "invented".
One doesn't "invent" software.
Software is designed, implemented, engineered, developed.
All of those things, and more, but not "invented".
Look it up in the dictionary.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063602</id>
	<title>Re:but...</title>
	<author>morgauxo</author>
	<datestamp>1265660520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd either ignore it or ask what's in it for me.  Then again, in hopes of good exposure, or him remembering me when it's time to license the next batch I might just send him one w/o asking questions. (in hopes of something nice happening in return) What's one phone to a factory anyway? But I would hope for something in return, after all, the manufacturer has to pay Microsoft for Windows Mobile licenses.  After that they don't owe Microsoft anything.
<br> <br>
Now, in the case of a Linux phone, yes, I would just give him one and not expect anything in return.  The difference...  They don't have to pay to put Linux on their phone!  Sure, companies have hired him to get special attention but he started Linux for free and it still is.  Why the hell shouldn't they give him a free phone? They should even include a thank you note to him in the box! They benefit from his free work.
<br> <br>
Of course, there are many many others who deserve that free phone as well.  It wouldn't be practical to send them all but he is the leader, and the one who started the kernel so just send him one.  Now, if they used GNU much I'd say send Richard Stallman one too but I get the impression there isn't much GNU in there, just Linux and Java.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd either ignore it or ask what 's in it for me .
Then again , in hopes of good exposure , or him remembering me when it 's time to license the next batch I might just send him one w/o asking questions .
( in hopes of something nice happening in return ) What 's one phone to a factory anyway ?
But I would hope for something in return , after all , the manufacturer has to pay Microsoft for Windows Mobile licenses .
After that they do n't owe Microsoft anything .
Now , in the case of a Linux phone , yes , I would just give him one and not expect anything in return .
The difference... They do n't have to pay to put Linux on their phone !
Sure , companies have hired him to get special attention but he started Linux for free and it still is .
Why the hell should n't they give him a free phone ?
They should even include a thank you note to him in the box !
They benefit from his free work .
Of course , there are many many others who deserve that free phone as well .
It would n't be practical to send them all but he is the leader , and the one who started the kernel so just send him one .
Now , if they used GNU much I 'd say send Richard Stallman one too but I get the impression there is n't much GNU in there , just Linux and Java .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd either ignore it or ask what's in it for me.
Then again, in hopes of good exposure, or him remembering me when it's time to license the next batch I might just send him one w/o asking questions.
(in hopes of something nice happening in return) What's one phone to a factory anyway?
But I would hope for something in return, after all, the manufacturer has to pay Microsoft for Windows Mobile licenses.
After that they don't owe Microsoft anything.
Now, in the case of a Linux phone, yes, I would just give him one and not expect anything in return.
The difference...  They don't have to pay to put Linux on their phone!
Sure, companies have hired him to get special attention but he started Linux for free and it still is.
Why the hell shouldn't they give him a free phone?
They should even include a thank you note to him in the box!
They benefit from his free work.
Of course, there are many many others who deserve that free phone as well.
It wouldn't be practical to send them all but he is the leader, and the one who started the kernel so just send him one.
Now, if they used GNU much I'd say send Richard Stallman one too but I get the impression there isn't much GNU in there, just Linux and Java.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061776</id>
	<title>Is he relevant anymore?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265651460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this guy even relevant anymore? I'm mean - seriously... wtf.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this guy even relevant anymore ?
I 'm mean - seriously... wtf .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this guy even relevant anymore?
I'm mean - seriously... wtf.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31066208</id>
	<title>The problem isn't with phones</title>
	<author>Mr\_Silver</author>
	<datestamp>1265628360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>All of the ones he has purchased in the past, the man writes on his personal blog, ended up being 'mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights' <b>even though they were naturally all phones run on open source operating systems</b>.</p></div></blockquote><p>(emphasis mine)</p><p>The problem here isn't the state of mobile phones in general. In short, Linus has limited himself (rightly or wrongly) to phones running open source operating systems and, surprise, until Android they've all sucked.</p><p>This isn't really news to anyone who works in the mobile industry and I didn't quite expect it to be news on Slashdot either.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>All of the ones he has purchased in the past , the man writes on his personal blog , ended up being 'mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights ' even though they were naturally all phones run on open source operating systems .
( emphasis mine ) The problem here is n't the state of mobile phones in general .
In short , Linus has limited himself ( rightly or wrongly ) to phones running open source operating systems and , surprise , until Android they 've all sucked.This is n't really news to anyone who works in the mobile industry and I did n't quite expect it to be news on Slashdot either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of the ones he has purchased in the past, the man writes on his personal blog, ended up being 'mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights' even though they were naturally all phones run on open source operating systems.
(emphasis mine)The problem here isn't the state of mobile phones in general.
In short, Linus has limited himself (rightly or wrongly) to phones running open source operating systems and, surprise, until Android they've all sucked.This isn't really news to anyone who works in the mobile industry and I didn't quite expect it to be news on Slashdot either.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061634</id>
	<title>Torvalds' criteria for judgment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265650920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apparently he judges phones by different standards than I do. It sounds like he wanted a traveling internet connection with a good interface. I personally prefer my tiny little Zoolander phone which plays music, calls people good and has a mediocre interface for checking email.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently he judges phones by different standards than I do .
It sounds like he wanted a traveling internet connection with a good interface .
I personally prefer my tiny little Zoolander phone which plays music , calls people good and has a mediocre interface for checking email .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently he judges phones by different standards than I do.
It sounds like he wanted a traveling internet connection with a good interface.
I personally prefer my tiny little Zoolander phone which plays music, calls people good and has a mediocre interface for checking email.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061642</id>
	<title>Re:but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265650920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Send it along, COD of course.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Send it along , COD of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Send it along, COD of course.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061608</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061756</id>
	<title>Re:but...</title>
	<author>nacturation</author>
	<datestamp>1265651400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>SUpposed you got a mail from  bill gates asking for a phone from your company because your phone factory has made a phone running windows mobile on it. What would you do?</p></div><p>The point is that famous people generally don't ask... they get sent stuff unsolicited a fair bit.  At the Oscars, when you hear of someone's $100,000 necklace from Saks Fifth Avenue, do you really think the celebrity went out and spent their own money on that necklace?  Hell no... that's Saks renting it (perhaps gifting it for smaller items) and getting free promotion.  Saks is hoping all the non-famous rich people who watch the Oscars go out and buy the necklace.</p><p>In Linus' case, however, perhaps he's critical enough about phones that it's actually a risk to send him one.  If he writes a bad review, the company who manufactures it and sent it to him has just shot itself in the foot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>SUpposed you got a mail from bill gates asking for a phone from your company because your phone factory has made a phone running windows mobile on it .
What would you do ? The point is that famous people generally do n't ask... they get sent stuff unsolicited a fair bit .
At the Oscars , when you hear of someone 's $ 100,000 necklace from Saks Fifth Avenue , do you really think the celebrity went out and spent their own money on that necklace ?
Hell no... that 's Saks renting it ( perhaps gifting it for smaller items ) and getting free promotion .
Saks is hoping all the non-famous rich people who watch the Oscars go out and buy the necklace.In Linus ' case , however , perhaps he 's critical enough about phones that it 's actually a risk to send him one .
If he writes a bad review , the company who manufactures it and sent it to him has just shot itself in the foot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SUpposed you got a mail from  bill gates asking for a phone from your company because your phone factory has made a phone running windows mobile on it.
What would you do?The point is that famous people generally don't ask... they get sent stuff unsolicited a fair bit.
At the Oscars, when you hear of someone's $100,000 necklace from Saks Fifth Avenue, do you really think the celebrity went out and spent their own money on that necklace?
Hell no... that's Saks renting it (perhaps gifting it for smaller items) and getting free promotion.
Saks is hoping all the non-famous rich people who watch the Oscars go out and buy the necklace.In Linus' case, however, perhaps he's critical enough about phones that it's actually a risk to send him one.
If he writes a bad review, the company who manufactures it and sent it to him has just shot itself in the foot.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061608</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062000</id>
	<title>Other age.</title>
	<author>leuk\_he</author>
	<datestamp>1265652660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus is 40, In ohter words, in the first 20 year of his life mobile phones only lived as very bulky carphones, and for a long time after that the calling cost were quite pricy. Only the last 10 year or so mobiles phones became main-stream. Some people still live with the believe you have to be reachable all the time. This may be hard to grasp for generation now that grew up with mobile phones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus is 40 , In ohter words , in the first 20 year of his life mobile phones only lived as very bulky carphones , and for a long time after that the calling cost were quite pricy .
Only the last 10 year or so mobiles phones became main-stream .
Some people still live with the believe you have to be reachable all the time .
This may be hard to grasp for generation now that grew up with mobile phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus is 40, In ohter words, in the first 20 year of his life mobile phones only lived as very bulky carphones, and for a long time after that the calling cost were quite pricy.
Only the last 10 year or so mobiles phones became main-stream.
Some people still live with the believe you have to be reachable all the time.
This may be hard to grasp for generation now that grew up with mobile phones.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061548</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062038</id>
	<title>Plagerism?</title>
	<author>gravis777</author>
	<datestamp>1265652840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, Slashdot Plagerising a Washington Post article that is plagerising an article on Android Community. Practically word for word identical. Not sure if linking to the article is the same as providing citation.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , Slashdot Plagerising a Washington Post article that is plagerising an article on Android Community .
Practically word for word identical .
Not sure if linking to the article is the same as providing citation .
: -p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, Slashdot Plagerising a Washington Post article that is plagerising an article on Android Community.
Practically word for word identical.
Not sure if linking to the article is the same as providing citation.
:-p</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061510</id>
	<title>So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>filesiteguy</author>
	<datestamp>1265650320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You'd think that a guy like Linus would at least have an in-dash GPS unit so he's not distracted while behind the wheel futzing with the phone.<br><br>Hopefully, he's not also eating a cheeseburger while inputting addressess...</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'd think that a guy like Linus would at least have an in-dash GPS unit so he 's not distracted while behind the wheel futzing with the phone.Hopefully , he 's not also eating a cheeseburger while inputting addressess.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'd think that a guy like Linus would at least have an in-dash GPS unit so he's not distracted while behind the wheel futzing with the phone.Hopefully, he's not also eating a cheeseburger while inputting addressess...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061896</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>pinkj</author>
	<datestamp>1265652120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hate mobile phones too.  I've refused to have one for most of my life.  And if a person, be it Linus or anyone else, hates mobile phones as much as I do and likes the Nexus One, I'll listen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate mobile phones too .
I 've refused to have one for most of my life .
And if a person , be it Linus or anyone else , hates mobile phones as much as I do and likes the Nexus One , I 'll listen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate mobile phones too.
I've refused to have one for most of my life.
And if a person, be it Linus or anyone else, hates mobile phones as much as I do and likes the Nexus One, I'll listen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061586</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31069950</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>sl149q</author>
	<datestamp>1265712300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Had a ride in a Bell Jet Ranger last summer. It had a Garmin GPS stuck on top of the rest of the built in avionics, on the dash so to speak. It was an aviation rated version though... but apparently still a lot cheaper than trying to buy an official upgrade.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Had a ride in a Bell Jet Ranger last summer .
It had a Garmin GPS stuck on top of the rest of the built in avionics , on the dash so to speak .
It was an aviation rated version though... but apparently still a lot cheaper than trying to buy an official upgrade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Had a ride in a Bell Jet Ranger last summer.
It had a Garmin GPS stuck on top of the rest of the built in avionics, on the dash so to speak.
It was an aviation rated version though... but apparently still a lot cheaper than trying to buy an official upgrade.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062102</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31070330</id>
	<title>Huh?</title>
	<author>Edam</author>
	<datestamp>1265718060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is hardly news...</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is hardly news.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is hardly news...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061586</id>
	<title>Why</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265650740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why?
I mean I will be happy to listen to anything he has to say about the Linux Kernel. I would pay to hear him talk about the early days of Linux development, but his thoughts on smart phones? What could possibly make me care?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why ?
I mean I will be happy to listen to anything he has to say about the Linux Kernel .
I would pay to hear him talk about the early days of Linux development , but his thoughts on smart phones ?
What could possibly make me care ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why?
I mean I will be happy to listen to anything he has to say about the Linux Kernel.
I would pay to hear him talk about the early days of Linux development, but his thoughts on smart phones?
What could possibly make me care?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063034</id>
	<title>Inventor of the linux kernel?</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1265657760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the hell did Linus invent? He is not an inventor, he is a builder! Big and important difference, it is the difference between scientists and engineers, between architects and builders.
</p><p>And you need BOTH but not to confuse the two or you are going to drive over a bridge made by someone who believes in testing rather then knowing.
</p><p>What next, Newton inventing gravity?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the hell did Linus invent ?
He is not an inventor , he is a builder !
Big and important difference , it is the difference between scientists and engineers , between architects and builders .
And you need BOTH but not to confuse the two or you are going to drive over a bridge made by someone who believes in testing rather then knowing .
What next , Newton inventing gravity ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the hell did Linus invent?
He is not an inventor, he is a builder!
Big and important difference, it is the difference between scientists and engineers, between architects and builders.
And you need BOTH but not to confuse the two or you are going to drive over a bridge made by someone who believes in testing rather then knowing.
What next, Newton inventing gravity?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061926</id>
	<title>Re:He bought one?</title>
	<author>BlackCreek</author>
	<datestamp>1265652300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus appears to have less hysterical take on the <a href="http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2010/02/happy-camper.html?showComment=1265497306683#c9165359646443113891" title="blogspot.com">Android Linux fork</a> [blogspot.com] than most people:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't worry about out-of-tree development for odd devices too much. I wish we could merge android, but I also accept it likely being a few years away. We had similar out-of-tree issues with the SGI extreme scalability stuff, and it took quite a while before the standard kernel merged all of that.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus appears to have less hysterical take on the Android Linux fork [ blogspot.com ] than most people : I do n't worry about out-of-tree development for odd devices too much .
I wish we could merge android , but I also accept it likely being a few years away .
We had similar out-of-tree issues with the SGI extreme scalability stuff , and it took quite a while before the standard kernel merged all of that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus appears to have less hysterical take on the Android Linux fork [blogspot.com] than most people:I don't worry about out-of-tree development for odd devices too much.
I wish we could merge android, but I also accept it likely being a few years away.
We had similar out-of-tree issues with the SGI extreme scalability stuff, and it took quite a while before the standard kernel merged all of that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062130</id>
	<title>Re:He hates mobile phones?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265653320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In order to understand Linus' aversion to phones you have to take into account the following:</p><p>1. Linus belongs to a Swedish-speaking minority.*<br>2. Linus' wife Tove is a six-time Finnish national karate champion. In 1993 she took a course Linus was teaching and when Linus asked the students to send him an e-mail as a test, Tove sent him an e-mail asking for a date (and threatening to break his geeky body worse than his boot loader, should he refuse).**</p><p>* Try ordering pizza in Swedish in Finland and see what you get.<br>** Tove is keen on knowing where Linus is every breathing second and she checks his phone for suspicious calls and messages (supposedly to protect him from crazy stalkers), so Linus prefers not to use the phone, if possible. He carries a mobile phone as an electronic bracelet / controller device controlled by Tove. He's hoping to hack Nexus One to fool Tove, but Linus' hacking is no match for Tove's karate chopping. Poor bastard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In order to understand Linus ' aversion to phones you have to take into account the following : 1 .
Linus belongs to a Swedish-speaking minority. * 2 .
Linus ' wife Tove is a six-time Finnish national karate champion .
In 1993 she took a course Linus was teaching and when Linus asked the students to send him an e-mail as a test , Tove sent him an e-mail asking for a date ( and threatening to break his geeky body worse than his boot loader , should he refuse ) .
* * * Try ordering pizza in Swedish in Finland and see what you get .
* * Tove is keen on knowing where Linus is every breathing second and she checks his phone for suspicious calls and messages ( supposedly to protect him from crazy stalkers ) , so Linus prefers not to use the phone , if possible .
He carries a mobile phone as an electronic bracelet / controller device controlled by Tove .
He 's hoping to hack Nexus One to fool Tove , but Linus ' hacking is no match for Tove 's karate chopping .
Poor bastard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In order to understand Linus' aversion to phones you have to take into account the following:1.
Linus belongs to a Swedish-speaking minority.*2.
Linus' wife Tove is a six-time Finnish national karate champion.
In 1993 she took a course Linus was teaching and when Linus asked the students to send him an e-mail as a test, Tove sent him an e-mail asking for a date (and threatening to break his geeky body worse than his boot loader, should he refuse).
*** Try ordering pizza in Swedish in Finland and see what you get.
** Tove is keen on knowing where Linus is every breathing second and she checks his phone for suspicious calls and messages (supposedly to protect him from crazy stalkers), so Linus prefers not to use the phone, if possible.
He carries a mobile phone as an electronic bracelet / controller device controlled by Tove.
He's hoping to hack Nexus One to fool Tove, but Linus' hacking is no match for Tove's karate chopping.
Poor bastard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061548</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061826</id>
	<title>stupid Linus</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1265651700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>he could've made serious $$ if he charged google for expressing this opinion. imagine all the linux devotees who are going to buy it now. i mean, there's gotta be, like, at least 10 who can afford it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>he could 've made serious $ $ if he charged google for expressing this opinion .
imagine all the linux devotees who are going to buy it now .
i mean , there 's got ta be , like , at least 10 who can afford it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>he could've made serious $$ if he charged google for expressing this opinion.
imagine all the linux devotees who are going to buy it now.
i mean, there's gotta be, like, at least 10 who can afford it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062338</id>
	<title>Email support?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265654520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does the version on Android on the N1 have a usable email client yet? I have an HTC Magic, and the email client is dreadful: base64 encodes all messages, automatically top posts with no option to disable, and fails to generate In-Reply-To/References headers so it breaks threading. It's very sad that apparently the easiest way to get an email client that doesn't try to humiliate you in public is to install an ssh client and run mutt remotely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the version on Android on the N1 have a usable email client yet ?
I have an HTC Magic , and the email client is dreadful : base64 encodes all messages , automatically top posts with no option to disable , and fails to generate In-Reply-To/References headers so it breaks threading .
It 's very sad that apparently the easiest way to get an email client that does n't try to humiliate you in public is to install an ssh client and run mutt remotely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the version on Android on the N1 have a usable email client yet?
I have an HTC Magic, and the email client is dreadful: base64 encodes all messages, automatically top posts with no option to disable, and fails to generate In-Reply-To/References headers so it breaks threading.
It's very sad that apparently the easiest way to get an email client that doesn't try to humiliate you in public is to install an ssh client and run mutt remotely.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31072524</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1265733360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kind of expensive.... but if you just wanted the GPS, it sure beats an extra $30/month. Incidently, Garmin's map supplier is NAVTEQ... who is owned by Nokia.</p><p>I have a dedicated Pioneer unit in my car -- on dash, but also integrated into the audio system. It cost me $180 plus $25 for the integration amplifier, and a few hours of splicing wires. This gives me a nice 5" screen, voice recognition (not as good as Google's, but few are), excellent bluetooth speakerphone with automatic audio ducking during phone calls, MP3 and video player if I car to, etc. I did pay $50 for one map update... not for life, but "expected life of unit"... well, pretty much the next 100,000 miles in my 2003 Prius, so maybe another map update or two in time.</p><p>On the other hand, if I had already had the DROID, I would not likely have bothered installing the Pioneer. Google Nav IS that good. While you do lose satellite views if you lose the wireless link, it does cache the route before you go. So you keep navigating if you lose coverage, or if a phone call comes along (they don't call it "Evolution Data-Only" for nothing, the 3G protocol on the DROID). If you get to your destination and have no data link, THEN you're screwed. The Google Nav team is apparently planning something to help here in the future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kind of expensive.... but if you just wanted the GPS , it sure beats an extra $ 30/month .
Incidently , Garmin 's map supplier is NAVTEQ... who is owned by Nokia.I have a dedicated Pioneer unit in my car -- on dash , but also integrated into the audio system .
It cost me $ 180 plus $ 25 for the integration amplifier , and a few hours of splicing wires .
This gives me a nice 5 " screen , voice recognition ( not as good as Google 's , but few are ) , excellent bluetooth speakerphone with automatic audio ducking during phone calls , MP3 and video player if I car to , etc .
I did pay $ 50 for one map update... not for life , but " expected life of unit " ... well , pretty much the next 100,000 miles in my 2003 Prius , so maybe another map update or two in time.On the other hand , if I had already had the DROID , I would not likely have bothered installing the Pioneer .
Google Nav IS that good .
While you do lose satellite views if you lose the wireless link , it does cache the route before you go .
So you keep navigating if you lose coverage , or if a phone call comes along ( they do n't call it " Evolution Data-Only " for nothing , the 3G protocol on the DROID ) .
If you get to your destination and have no data link , THEN you 're screwed .
The Google Nav team is apparently planning something to help here in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kind of expensive.... but if you just wanted the GPS, it sure beats an extra $30/month.
Incidently, Garmin's map supplier is NAVTEQ... who is owned by Nokia.I have a dedicated Pioneer unit in my car -- on dash, but also integrated into the audio system.
It cost me $180 plus $25 for the integration amplifier, and a few hours of splicing wires.
This gives me a nice 5" screen, voice recognition (not as good as Google's, but few are), excellent bluetooth speakerphone with automatic audio ducking during phone calls, MP3 and video player if I car to, etc.
I did pay $50 for one map update... not for life, but "expected life of unit"... well, pretty much the next 100,000 miles in my 2003 Prius, so maybe another map update or two in time.On the other hand, if I had already had the DROID, I would not likely have bothered installing the Pioneer.
Google Nav IS that good.
While you do lose satellite views if you lose the wireless link, it does cache the route before you go.
So you keep navigating if you lose coverage, or if a phone call comes along (they don't call it "Evolution Data-Only" for nothing, the 3G protocol on the DROID).
If you get to your destination and have no data link, THEN you're screwed.
The Google Nav team is apparently planning something to help here in the future.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063710</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062302</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265654340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I have to listen to how many sheets of toilet paper Steve Jobs used on his last bowel movement, you can listen to how much "some random dude" likes a mobile phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I have to listen to how many sheets of toilet paper Steve Jobs used on his last bowel movement , you can listen to how much " some random dude " likes a mobile phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I have to listen to how many sheets of toilet paper Steve Jobs used on his last bowel movement, you can listen to how much "some random dude" likes a mobile phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061586</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31065156</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>pwfffff</author>
	<datestamp>1265624280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you mean standalone GPS doesn't make phonecalls, surf the web, fit in your pocket, and follow you everywhere... making it much worse than a Nexus One.</p><p>You people and your philosophy of having a hundred gadgets that do one thing well were cute back when we couldn't actually cram it all on one device, but now that we pretty much can, what's your excuse?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you mean standalone GPS does n't make phonecalls , surf the web , fit in your pocket , and follow you everywhere... making it much worse than a Nexus One.You people and your philosophy of having a hundred gadgets that do one thing well were cute back when we could n't actually cram it all on one device , but now that we pretty much can , what 's your excuse ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you mean standalone GPS doesn't make phonecalls, surf the web, fit in your pocket, and follow you everywhere... making it much worse than a Nexus One.You people and your philosophy of having a hundred gadgets that do one thing well were cute back when we couldn't actually cram it all on one device, but now that we pretty much can, what's your excuse?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063134</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062752</id>
	<title>My hate for java would not allow me to do it</title>
	<author>codepunk</author>
	<datestamp>1265656560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My hate for the java language, performance and development pipeline would not allow me to buy one. I went with a iphone<br>instead, not that I am a big fan of objective c but at least anything I compile with it runs amazingly well on the device. When<br>trying to push the devices to the limits every clock cycle counts and I appreciate being able to use all of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My hate for the java language , performance and development pipeline would not allow me to buy one .
I went with a iphoneinstead , not that I am a big fan of objective c but at least anything I compile with it runs amazingly well on the device .
Whentrying to push the devices to the limits every clock cycle counts and I appreciate being able to use all of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My hate for the java language, performance and development pipeline would not allow me to buy one.
I went with a iphoneinstead, not that I am a big fan of objective c but at least anything I compile with it runs amazingly well on the device.
Whentrying to push the devices to the limits every clock cycle counts and I appreciate being able to use all of them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061998</id>
	<title>Re:Mislabelled</title>
	<author>chill</author>
	<datestamp>1265652660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Now excuse me, I have to comb my beard.</p></div><p>You had me going until that part.  Something like this would be more apt:</p><p><em>He stood up straight and looked the world squarely in the fields and hills. To add weight to his words he stuck the gnu/rabbit bone in his beard. He spread his arms out wide. "I will go mad!" he<br>announced.</em></p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now excuse me , I have to comb my beard.You had me going until that part .
Something like this would be more apt : He stood up straight and looked the world squarely in the fields and hills .
To add weight to his words he stuck the gnu/rabbit bone in his beard .
He spread his arms out wide .
" I will go mad !
" heannounced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now excuse me, I have to comb my beard.You had me going until that part.
Something like this would be more apt:He stood up straight and looked the world squarely in the fields and hills.
To add weight to his words he stuck the gnu/rabbit bone in his beard.
He spread his arms out wide.
"I will go mad!
" heannounced.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061736</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061752</id>
	<title>Gratz on the phone</title>
	<author>Xanator</author>
	<datestamp>1265651400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linus still a normal guy who decides what to use if he likes it, hes not concerned if its propietary or free (i liked a lot his review on his linksys router), hes not a troll like Stallman who surfs the web using terminal lol</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus still a normal guy who decides what to use if he likes it , hes not concerned if its propietary or free ( i liked a lot his review on his linksys router ) , hes not a troll like Stallman who surfs the web using terminal lol</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus still a normal guy who decides what to use if he likes it, hes not concerned if its propietary or free (i liked a lot his review on his linksys router), hes not a troll like Stallman who surfs the web using terminal lol</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063018</id>
	<title>Same thing happened to me this weekend</title>
	<author>Sloppy</author>
	<datestamp>1265657700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My little brother just got a Nokia N900 and brought it over to show off.  My impression: this just might be the first phone I've ever seen which doesn't suck.  apt-get install whateverthefuckyouwant totally embarrasses everybody's "app store" and on top of that it's a fully working product.</p><p>Is Nexus One getting there too?  Cool.  I knew shitty phones' days were numbered, but had no idea just what that number <em>was.</em>  Looks like we've finally gotten to 0 and I can start taking the phone market seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My little brother just got a Nokia N900 and brought it over to show off .
My impression : this just might be the first phone I 've ever seen which does n't suck .
apt-get install whateverthefuckyouwant totally embarrasses everybody 's " app store " and on top of that it 's a fully working product.Is Nexus One getting there too ?
Cool. I knew shitty phones ' days were numbered , but had no idea just what that number was .
Looks like we 've finally gotten to 0 and I can start taking the phone market seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My little brother just got a Nokia N900 and brought it over to show off.
My impression: this just might be the first phone I've ever seen which doesn't suck.
apt-get install whateverthefuckyouwant totally embarrasses everybody's "app store" and on top of that it's a fully working product.Is Nexus One getting there too?
Cool.  I knew shitty phones' days were numbered, but had no idea just what that number was.
Looks like we've finally gotten to 0 and I can start taking the phone market seriously.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31064420</id>
	<title>Re:So that's who that is!</title>
	<author>JerryLove</author>
	<datestamp>1265621280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>Linus Torvalds, the inventor of the Linux kernel, has an absolute disdain for mobile phones.</p></div></blockquote><p>Finally, an article summary that explainings who some obscure person is, rather than assuming we know everyone in the tech universe.</p></div><p> Yea, but what is Linux?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus Torvalds , the inventor of the Linux kernel , has an absolute disdain for mobile phones.Finally , an article summary that explainings who some obscure person is , rather than assuming we know everyone in the tech universe .
Yea , but what is Linux ?
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus Torvalds, the inventor of the Linux kernel, has an absolute disdain for mobile phones.Finally, an article summary that explainings who some obscure person is, rather than assuming we know everyone in the tech universe.
Yea, but what is Linux?
:P
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061796</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31066716</id>
	<title>mnb Re:Same thing happened to me this weekend</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265630640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Spend a month following, closely, the Maemo community.  It's dead.  Nokia might be shipping the superior hardware, but unless they step in soon and <b>lead</b> for a while you're buying a dead-end product.<br>The mindshare isn't there - and you can NOT apt-get install whateverthefuckyouwant, as nice as that would be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Spend a month following , closely , the Maemo community .
It 's dead .
Nokia might be shipping the superior hardware , but unless they step in soon and lead for a while you 're buying a dead-end product.The mindshare is n't there - and you can NOT apt-get install whateverthefuckyouwant , as nice as that would be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spend a month following, closely, the Maemo community.
It's dead.
Nokia might be shipping the superior hardware, but unless they step in soon and lead for a while you're buying a dead-end product.The mindshare isn't there - and you can NOT apt-get install whateverthefuckyouwant, as nice as that would be.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062372</id>
	<title>Re:So that's who that is!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265654760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's a "Phone"?!?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's a " Phone " ? !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's a "Phone"?!
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061796</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063776</id>
	<title>Re:He bought one?</title>
	<author>morgauxo</author>
	<datestamp>1265661420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Phones suck, they ring and people expect you to interrupt what your doing to answer and then blab on about something unimportant or confirm plans for the umteenth time about something that's still a year off anyway.
<br> <br>
I want my phone to be a pocket sized computer with an available everywhere (that I go) data connection. Anything else is just annoying.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Phones suck , they ring and people expect you to interrupt what your doing to answer and then blab on about something unimportant or confirm plans for the umteenth time about something that 's still a year off anyway .
I want my phone to be a pocket sized computer with an available everywhere ( that I go ) data connection .
Anything else is just annoying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Phones suck, they ring and people expect you to interrupt what your doing to answer and then blab on about something unimportant or confirm plans for the umteenth time about something that's still a year off anyway.
I want my phone to be a pocket sized computer with an available everywhere (that I go) data connection.
Anything else is just annoying.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061874</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062068</id>
	<title>Re:Mislabelled</title>
	<author>jareth-0205</author>
	<datestamp>1265653020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I call fake!</p><p>RMS has never combed his beard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I call fake ! RMS has never combed his beard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I call fake!RMS has never combed his beard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061736</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061622</id>
	<title>Re:He hates mobile phones?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265650860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, Nokias best phones has always been the "it's just a phone" phones, like the 3310/30 etc. Maybe that's Linus' style too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , Nokias best phones has always been the " it 's just a phone " phones , like the 3310/30 etc .
Maybe that 's Linus ' style too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, Nokias best phones has always been the "it's just a phone" phones, like the 3310/30 etc.
Maybe that's Linus' style too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061548</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062580</id>
	<title>Re:I know I'm old fashioned, but...</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1265655780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sony phones, like the K750 can play games like Galaga and it's certainly not a smart phone. Hell you can probably get landline phones that play Galaga now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sony phones , like the K750 can play games like Galaga and it 's certainly not a smart phone .
Hell you can probably get landline phones that play Galaga now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sony phones, like the K750 can play games like Galaga and it's certainly not a smart phone.
Hell you can probably get landline phones that play Galaga now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061680</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062362</id>
	<title>Re:stupid Linus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265654700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google can still hire him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google can still hire him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google can still hire him.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061826</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31068162</id>
	<title>Re:I know I'm old fashioned, but...</title>
	<author>quantumphaze</author>
	<datestamp>1265643300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>... most of my phones haven't had an OS that you could play Galaga or Solitaire on.</p></div><p>I have an old Ericsson T28 in a drawer that can play solitaire on it's 5 or so pixel rows.</p><p>Damn it was a good phone, did it's job well. But the mic got wet (still works but too quiet) and I doubt the battery works any more.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... most of my phones have n't had an OS that you could play Galaga or Solitaire on.I have an old Ericsson T28 in a drawer that can play solitaire on it 's 5 or so pixel rows.Damn it was a good phone , did it 's job well .
But the mic got wet ( still works but too quiet ) and I doubt the battery works any more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... most of my phones haven't had an OS that you could play Galaga or Solitaire on.I have an old Ericsson T28 in a drawer that can play solitaire on it's 5 or so pixel rows.Damn it was a good phone, did it's job well.
But the mic got wet (still works but too quiet) and I doubt the battery works any more.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061680</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31065496</id>
	<title>Re:Mislabelled</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265625480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, Stallman would find Linux on nexus one to be a fairly reasonable description, since it contains no GNU code.</p><p>This is because unlike on the average GNU/Linux system where there is more GNU code than code from any other single project, so the name GNU would be applicable, except that would be misleading, since it would not really be using the GNU operating system, since that would use Hurd. So GNU/Linux is the next best name.</p><p>For Android, more code on the system comes from the Android project than from any other system. Further unlike GNU android by default uses the Linux kernel[1], so saying Android/Linux is just a bit redundant.</p><p>[1] At the moment AFAIK no other kernel is possible, but porting Android to say a BSD based kernel is still quite possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , Stallman would find Linux on nexus one to be a fairly reasonable description , since it contains no GNU code.This is because unlike on the average GNU/Linux system where there is more GNU code than code from any other single project , so the name GNU would be applicable , except that would be misleading , since it would not really be using the GNU operating system , since that would use Hurd .
So GNU/Linux is the next best name.For Android , more code on the system comes from the Android project than from any other system .
Further unlike GNU android by default uses the Linux kernel [ 1 ] , so saying Android/Linux is just a bit redundant .
[ 1 ] At the moment AFAIK no other kernel is possible , but porting Android to say a BSD based kernel is still quite possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, Stallman would find Linux on nexus one to be a fairly reasonable description, since it contains no GNU code.This is because unlike on the average GNU/Linux system where there is more GNU code than code from any other single project, so the name GNU would be applicable, except that would be misleading, since it would not really be using the GNU operating system, since that would use Hurd.
So GNU/Linux is the next best name.For Android, more code on the system comes from the Android project than from any other system.
Further unlike GNU android by default uses the Linux kernel[1], so saying Android/Linux is just a bit redundant.
[1] At the moment AFAIK no other kernel is possible, but porting Android to say a BSD based kernel is still quite possible.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061736</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31065128</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>Degro</author>
	<datestamp>1265624160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So Linus is just some celebrity...on Slashdot...?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So Linus is just some celebrity...on Slashdot... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Linus is just some celebrity...on Slashdot...?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062060</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063956</id>
	<title>Re:Torvalds' criteria for judgment</title>
	<author>2short</author>
	<datestamp>1265662380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>"Apparently he judges phones by different standards than I do."<br><br>Clearly, he judges portable communications devices by different standard than you do; which is fine.<br><br>His criteria sound a lot like mine.  If I were to list what I want in such a device, item 9 or 10 might be "Well, if I'm going to carry it around all the time, I guess it better be a phone".  But that's after web browser, camera, gps, game console, and bike computer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Apparently he judges phones by different standards than I do .
" Clearly , he judges portable communications devices by different standard than you do ; which is fine.His criteria sound a lot like mine .
If I were to list what I want in such a device , item 9 or 10 might be " Well , if I 'm going to carry it around all the time , I guess it better be a phone " .
But that 's after web browser , camera , gps , game console , and bike computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Apparently he judges phones by different standards than I do.
"Clearly, he judges portable communications devices by different standard than you do; which is fine.His criteria sound a lot like mine.
If I were to list what I want in such a device, item 9 or 10 might be "Well, if I'm going to carry it around all the time, I guess it better be a phone".
But that's after web browser, camera, gps, game console, and bike computer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061634</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063710</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>johnlcallaway</author>
	<datestamp>1265661120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Garmin now offers a <a href="http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/maps/numaps-lifetime" title="garmin.com">lifetime update option</a> [garmin.com] for $119.99... 'lifetime' being defined as "until your product's useful life expires or Garmin no longer receives map data from its third party supplier".  So $600 for unit that has voice recognition, bluetooth, and a large backlit screen, then $119.99 for maps. Seems like a good deal to me. I had my old Garmin for 6 years until it fell off my motorcycle and it wasn't past it's "useful" life yet. I'll pay $720 instead of $600 for 6 years of use if the device provides me $120 more additional functionality.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Garmin now offers a lifetime update option [ garmin.com ] for $ 119.99... 'lifetime ' being defined as " until your product 's useful life expires or Garmin no longer receives map data from its third party supplier " .
So $ 600 for unit that has voice recognition , bluetooth , and a large backlit screen , then $ 119.99 for maps .
Seems like a good deal to me .
I had my old Garmin for 6 years until it fell off my motorcycle and it was n't past it 's " useful " life yet .
I 'll pay $ 720 instead of $ 600 for 6 years of use if the device provides me $ 120 more additional functionality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Garmin now offers a lifetime update option [garmin.com] for $119.99... 'lifetime' being defined as "until your product's useful life expires or Garmin no longer receives map data from its third party supplier".
So $600 for unit that has voice recognition, bluetooth, and a large backlit screen, then $119.99 for maps.
Seems like a good deal to me.
I had my old Garmin for 6 years until it fell off my motorcycle and it wasn't past it's "useful" life yet.
I'll pay $720 instead of $600 for 6 years of use if the device provides me $120 more additional functionality.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062102</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062198</id>
	<title>Only a couple of days</title>
	<author>Bill\_the\_Engineer</author>
	<datestamp>1265653620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Things have changed now, he adds, now that he has caved and bought Google's Nexus One a couple of days ago."</p></div></blockquote><p>It's only been a couple of days, let's see if he likes it after he had a chance to really use it. I speak from experience. I'm still have my android phone, but the only thing keeping me on the platform is T-Mobile.
</p><p>Besides, why should we really care?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Things have changed now , he adds , now that he has caved and bought Google 's Nexus One a couple of days ago .
" It 's only been a couple of days , let 's see if he likes it after he had a chance to really use it .
I speak from experience .
I 'm still have my android phone , but the only thing keeping me on the platform is T-Mobile .
Besides , why should we really care ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Things have changed now, he adds, now that he has caved and bought Google's Nexus One a couple of days ago.
"It's only been a couple of days, let's see if he likes it after he had a chance to really use it.
I speak from experience.
I'm still have my android phone, but the only thing keeping me on the platform is T-Mobile.
Besides, why should we really care?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31064176</id>
	<title>Re:Inventor of the linux kernel?</title>
	<author>amorsen</author>
	<datestamp>1265620260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus invented zerocopy splice() and tee(). You probably haven't heard of them, but that doesn't stop them from being inventive.</p><p>I would also call git inventive, even if many of the concepts appear in Mercurial as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus invented zerocopy splice ( ) and tee ( ) .
You probably have n't heard of them , but that does n't stop them from being inventive.I would also call git inventive , even if many of the concepts appear in Mercurial as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus invented zerocopy splice() and tee().
You probably haven't heard of them, but that doesn't stop them from being inventive.I would also call git inventive, even if many of the concepts appear in Mercurial as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063034</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063496</id>
	<title>Re:A balance between geekness and ease of use</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1265660040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I expected Linus Torvalds to use something more geeky, e.g. N900 or one of OpenMoko devices, but in this case he has chosen user-friendliness instead of endless tinkering.</p> </div><p>"In this case"? Linus had historically ruined geeks' expectations like that. I recall how many were dismayed that he was using SUSE and Fedora, and spending most time in KDE, rather than some "proper" distro like Slackware or Gentoo or at least Debian, and some obscure tiling WM.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I expected Linus Torvalds to use something more geeky , e.g .
N900 or one of OpenMoko devices , but in this case he has chosen user-friendliness instead of endless tinkering .
" In this case " ?
Linus had historically ruined geeks ' expectations like that .
I recall how many were dismayed that he was using SUSE and Fedora , and spending most time in KDE , rather than some " proper " distro like Slackware or Gentoo or at least Debian , and some obscure tiling WM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I expected Linus Torvalds to use something more geeky, e.g.
N900 or one of OpenMoko devices, but in this case he has chosen user-friendliness instead of endless tinkering.
"In this case"?
Linus had historically ruined geeks' expectations like that.
I recall how many were dismayed that he was using SUSE and Fedora, and spending most time in KDE, rather than some "proper" distro like Slackware or Gentoo or at least Debian, and some obscure tiling WM.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061822</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061682</id>
	<title>arcade games</title>
	<author>bsDaemon</author>
	<datestamp>1265651040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think most computers in general have been relegated to playing solitaire and Galaga, not just mobile phone platforms.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think most computers in general have been relegated to playing solitaire and Galaga , not just mobile phone platforms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think most computers in general have been relegated to playing solitaire and Galaga, not just mobile phone platforms.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063106</id>
	<title>Re:I know I'm old fashioned, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265658120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt; I don't know about anyone else, but if I don't want to be interrupted, I turn off the phone.</p><p>Anyone who works in a technical or managerial capacity for a very large corporation will find themselves quite fired for that - particularly when it happens to coincide with a major outage or emergency request from a VP.</p><p>I'm with LInus:  I hate my cell.  Every time it rings it means that I've just lost the next few hours of my life to work on a new problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; I do n't know about anyone else , but if I do n't want to be interrupted , I turn off the phone.Anyone who works in a technical or managerial capacity for a very large corporation will find themselves quite fired for that - particularly when it happens to coincide with a major outage or emergency request from a VP.I 'm with LInus : I hate my cell .
Every time it rings it means that I 've just lost the next few hours of my life to work on a new problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; I don't know about anyone else, but if I don't want to be interrupted, I turn off the phone.Anyone who works in a technical or managerial capacity for a very large corporation will find themselves quite fired for that - particularly when it happens to coincide with a major outage or emergency request from a VP.I'm with LInus:  I hate my cell.
Every time it rings it means that I've just lost the next few hours of my life to work on a new problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061680</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061608</id>
	<title>but...</title>
	<author>leuk\_he</author>
	<datestamp>1265650800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SUpposed you got a mail from  bill gates asking for a phone from your company because your phone factory has made a phone running windows mobile on it. What would you do?</p><p>==<br>PS, Google is a member of the linux foundation which is the current employer of linus. So in a way google already paid for the phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SUpposed you got a mail from bill gates asking for a phone from your company because your phone factory has made a phone running windows mobile on it .
What would you do ? = = PS , Google is a member of the linux foundation which is the current employer of linus .
So in a way google already paid for the phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SUpposed you got a mail from  bill gates asking for a phone from your company because your phone factory has made a phone running windows mobile on it.
What would you do?==PS, Google is a member of the linux foundation which is the current employer of linus.
So in a way google already paid for the phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061494</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062238</id>
	<title>Re:stupid Linus</title>
	<author>wjhoffman1983</author>
	<datestamp>1265653980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who said he didn't?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who said he did n't ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who said he didn't?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061826</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31066298</id>
	<title>Re:but...</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1265628720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've received a graphics card and three games purely on the basis that I worked on the development teams.  This wasn't because I demanded.  It's just typically the done thing.<br> <br>
Evidently though, Google didn't think Linux was a part of the development process.  Fair enough.  It's up to them.  <br> <br>
Now, if I made a Windows CE based product and Microsoft wanted some samples I'd be tempted to send them without asking the reason.  They might have a good reason and if not it wouldn't cost me that much.  However, other companies may see things differently.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've received a graphics card and three games purely on the basis that I worked on the development teams .
This was n't because I demanded .
It 's just typically the done thing .
Evidently though , Google did n't think Linux was a part of the development process .
Fair enough .
It 's up to them .
Now , if I made a Windows CE based product and Microsoft wanted some samples I 'd be tempted to send them without asking the reason .
They might have a good reason and if not it would n't cost me that much .
However , other companies may see things differently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've received a graphics card and three games purely on the basis that I worked on the development teams.
This wasn't because I demanded.
It's just typically the done thing.
Evidently though, Google didn't think Linux was a part of the development process.
Fair enough.
It's up to them.
Now, if I made a Windows CE based product and Microsoft wanted some samples I'd be tempted to send them without asking the reason.
They might have a good reason and if not it wouldn't cost me that much.
However, other companies may see things differently.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061608</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063886</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265661960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slashdot is becoming the PR arm of Google, better get used to it.</p><p>You might have noticed another similar and very pointless "news" story earlier about Google laying claim to the 1e100 domain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot is becoming the PR arm of Google , better get used to it.You might have noticed another similar and very pointless " news " story earlier about Google laying claim to the 1e100 domain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot is becoming the PR arm of Google, better get used to it.You might have noticed another similar and very pointless "news" story earlier about Google laying claim to the 1e100 domain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061586</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061846</id>
	<title>Growing respect to Linus</title>
	<author>VincenzoRomano</author>
	<datestamp>1265651760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As Galaga and the solitaire are the only games woth playing, along with rougue-lke.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As Galaga and the solitaire are the only games woth playing , along with rougue-lke .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As Galaga and the solitaire are the only games woth playing, along with rougue-lke.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062568</id>
	<title>Re:Mislabelled</title>
	<author>The Mighty Buzzard</author>
	<datestamp>1265655720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's GNECK/Beard, you insensitive clod!</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's GNECK/Beard , you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's GNECK/Beard, you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061736</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061890</id>
	<title>BREAKING NEWS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265652060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linux fanatic is an elitist. More at 11.


TFA sounds like Torvalds has basically no experience with mobile phones. If he wanted multi-touch so bad, why didn't he try an iPhone or any other manner of non-GPL phone?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux fanatic is an elitist .
More at 11 .
TFA sounds like Torvalds has basically no experience with mobile phones .
If he wanted multi-touch so bad , why did n't he try an iPhone or any other manner of non-GPL phone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux fanatic is an elitist.
More at 11.
TFA sounds like Torvalds has basically no experience with mobile phones.
If he wanted multi-touch so bad, why didn't he try an iPhone or any other manner of non-GPL phone?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31064234</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265620560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought Linus, and everyone here, used OpenStreetMap anyway?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought Linus , and everyone here , used OpenStreetMap anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought Linus, and everyone here, used OpenStreetMap anyway?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062102</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061968</id>
	<title>Re:but...</title>
	<author>simoncpu was here</author>
	<datestamp>1265652540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If he asked politely and made it clear that he won't be getting something from nothing, I'll just send him a demo phone with a nice accompanying letter that tells him that our company appreciates an OS that would make our applications run optimally <i>if</i> they could provide us with this and that features.<br>
<br>
I know this is Slashdot, but how much does a demo phone cost?  How much could we benefit from a partnership?  Do all commercial partnerships need to have the same principles, or do they just need to mutually agree on things that would benefit them both?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If he asked politely and made it clear that he wo n't be getting something from nothing , I 'll just send him a demo phone with a nice accompanying letter that tells him that our company appreciates an OS that would make our applications run optimally if they could provide us with this and that features .
I know this is Slashdot , but how much does a demo phone cost ?
How much could we benefit from a partnership ?
Do all commercial partnerships need to have the same principles , or do they just need to mutually agree on things that would benefit them both ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he asked politely and made it clear that he won't be getting something from nothing, I'll just send him a demo phone with a nice accompanying letter that tells him that our company appreciates an OS that would make our applications run optimally if they could provide us with this and that features.
I know this is Slashdot, but how much does a demo phone cost?
How much could we benefit from a partnership?
Do all commercial partnerships need to have the same principles, or do they just need to mutually agree on things that would benefit them both?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061608</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062480</id>
	<title>Re:He bought one?</title>
	<author>eln</author>
	<datestamp>1265655420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hate talking on the phone, and I avoid it at all costs.  I use my phone primarily for texting, the Internet, and games.  The fact that it's also capable of making and receiving telephone calls is just a (sometimes unwanted) bonus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate talking on the phone , and I avoid it at all costs .
I use my phone primarily for texting , the Internet , and games .
The fact that it 's also capable of making and receiving telephone calls is just a ( sometimes unwanted ) bonus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate talking on the phone, and I avoid it at all costs.
I use my phone primarily for texting, the Internet, and games.
The fact that it's also capable of making and receiving telephone calls is just a (sometimes unwanted) bonus.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061874</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062196</id>
	<title>Re:Plagerism?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265653620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Plagerism</i></p><p>Ow ow ow. Did they copy the spelling mistakes and s too?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PlagerismOw ow ow .
Did they copy the spelling mistakes and s too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PlagerismOw ow ow.
Did they copy the spelling mistakes and s too?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062038</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31068330</id>
	<title>Re:Same thing happened to me this weekend</title>
	<author>MobyTurbo</author>
	<datestamp>1265645280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a Debian chroot on my Palm Pre, so I too can do apt-get, (or use the optware packages if the chroot isn't needed) though since the phone apps are based on Javascript usually rather than C, most of the time they have to be command-line or framebuffer, though lately it's become possible to port SDL apps to it! (Linux games often run with only slight modification now.)<p>I noticed some brave soul has also ported X11, though I don't know if that will ever become the main way to run a GUI driven app on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Debian chroot on my Palm Pre , so I too can do apt-get , ( or use the optware packages if the chroot is n't needed ) though since the phone apps are based on Javascript usually rather than C , most of the time they have to be command-line or framebuffer , though lately it 's become possible to port SDL apps to it !
( Linux games often run with only slight modification now .
) I noticed some brave soul has also ported X11 , though I do n't know if that will ever become the main way to run a GUI driven app on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Debian chroot on my Palm Pre, so I too can do apt-get, (or use the optware packages if the chroot isn't needed) though since the phone apps are based on Javascript usually rather than C, most of the time they have to be command-line or framebuffer, though lately it's become possible to port SDL apps to it!
(Linux games often run with only slight modification now.
)I noticed some brave soul has also ported X11, though I don't know if that will ever become the main way to run a GUI driven app on it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31066196</id>
	<title>haha Nokia n900 fanbois</title>
	<author>kregg</author>
	<datestamp>1265628240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus hates you and your evil phone (im joking)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus hates you and your evil phone ( im joking )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus hates you and your evil phone (im joking)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061822</id>
	<title>A balance between geekness and ease of use</title>
	<author>buruonbrails</author>
	<datestamp>1265651640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I expected Linus Torvalds to use something more geeky, e.g. N900 or one of OpenMoko devices, but in this case he has chosen user-friendliness instead of endless tinkering. Nexus One is probably one of the most user-friendly Linux-based devices to date (competing with WebOS devices in this respect), and it is very functional as well, so the choice seems obvious.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I expected Linus Torvalds to use something more geeky , e.g .
N900 or one of OpenMoko devices , but in this case he has chosen user-friendliness instead of endless tinkering .
Nexus One is probably one of the most user-friendly Linux-based devices to date ( competing with WebOS devices in this respect ) , and it is very functional as well , so the choice seems obvious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I expected Linus Torvalds to use something more geeky, e.g.
N900 or one of OpenMoko devices, but in this case he has chosen user-friendliness instead of endless tinkering.
Nexus One is probably one of the most user-friendly Linux-based devices to date (competing with WebOS devices in this respect), and it is very functional as well, so the choice seems obvious.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061680</id>
	<title>I know I'm old fashioned, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265651040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... most of my phones haven't had an OS that you could play Galaga or Solitaire on.  Or really do much more than make a phone call.</p><p>Is it possible that the reason he hates phones is that he keeps buying computers masquerading as phones, rather than phones?</p><p>Also... he comments that he's always hated phones because they interrupt while he's trying to work or read.  I don't know about anyone else, but if I don't want to be interrupted, I turn off the phone.  The ringer, if it's a land-line, or the whole thing, if it's a cell.  People can leave me a message and I'll listen to it later.</p><p>Basically, I can understand not liking the sound quality, or the microphone quality, or the weight, or the fact that it doesn't work anywhere you want to use it (all problems I've had in the past), but really... the things he's complaining about are issues with how he's using it, not with the phones.  Maybe, like me, he's someone who just shouldn't have a cell phone, or should buy a small cheap one for emergency use, and not pay a monthly fee for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... most of my phones have n't had an OS that you could play Galaga or Solitaire on .
Or really do much more than make a phone call.Is it possible that the reason he hates phones is that he keeps buying computers masquerading as phones , rather than phones ? Also... he comments that he 's always hated phones because they interrupt while he 's trying to work or read .
I do n't know about anyone else , but if I do n't want to be interrupted , I turn off the phone .
The ringer , if it 's a land-line , or the whole thing , if it 's a cell .
People can leave me a message and I 'll listen to it later.Basically , I can understand not liking the sound quality , or the microphone quality , or the weight , or the fact that it does n't work anywhere you want to use it ( all problems I 've had in the past ) , but really... the things he 's complaining about are issues with how he 's using it , not with the phones .
Maybe , like me , he 's someone who just should n't have a cell phone , or should buy a small cheap one for emergency use , and not pay a monthly fee for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... most of my phones haven't had an OS that you could play Galaga or Solitaire on.
Or really do much more than make a phone call.Is it possible that the reason he hates phones is that he keeps buying computers masquerading as phones, rather than phones?Also... he comments that he's always hated phones because they interrupt while he's trying to work or read.
I don't know about anyone else, but if I don't want to be interrupted, I turn off the phone.
The ringer, if it's a land-line, or the whole thing, if it's a cell.
People can leave me a message and I'll listen to it later.Basically, I can understand not liking the sound quality, or the microphone quality, or the weight, or the fact that it doesn't work anywhere you want to use it (all problems I've had in the past), but really... the things he's complaining about are issues with how he's using it, not with the phones.
Maybe, like me, he's someone who just shouldn't have a cell phone, or should buy a small cheap one for emergency use, and not pay a monthly fee for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061912</id>
	<title>hate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265652180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ok so he dont hate it but doesnt love or like it yea same here.<br>WOO<br>still aint buying these peoples overprices calculators</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ok so he dont hate it but doesnt love or like it yea same here.WOOstill aint buying these peoples overprices calculators</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ok so he dont hate it but doesnt love or like it yea same here.WOOstill aint buying these peoples overprices calculators</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31072632</id>
	<title>Re:Other age.</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1265733780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm every-so-slightly older, and never had much use for just a phone. Other people want to call me; I'm not going to make that many phone calls.</p><p>A networked pocket computer, on the other hand, makes a tone of sense... I may not have grown up on cell phones, but I started learning to code when I was 12 (not that easy in 1973... fortunately, my Dad let me use his department's Cyber72 over the weekend, dial in to Bell Labs in Holmdel). A year later, I was hacking around on UNIX, System III I think it was.</p><p>Even for slightly older folks here, I doubt this all that unique... there's far more value in "pocket computer" than "pocket phone". I tried to love the Palms, years back. They were passable PDAs and pretty awful phones, but very bad doing the web thing. Android seems to have fixed all of these things... it's hard to imagine not having a DROID in my pocket these days, even if I sometimes only use the phone for 10 minutes a month.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm every-so-slightly older , and never had much use for just a phone .
Other people want to call me ; I 'm not going to make that many phone calls.A networked pocket computer , on the other hand , makes a tone of sense... I may not have grown up on cell phones , but I started learning to code when I was 12 ( not that easy in 1973... fortunately , my Dad let me use his department 's Cyber72 over the weekend , dial in to Bell Labs in Holmdel ) .
A year later , I was hacking around on UNIX , System III I think it was.Even for slightly older folks here , I doubt this all that unique... there 's far more value in " pocket computer " than " pocket phone " .
I tried to love the Palms , years back .
They were passable PDAs and pretty awful phones , but very bad doing the web thing .
Android seems to have fixed all of these things... it 's hard to imagine not having a DROID in my pocket these days , even if I sometimes only use the phone for 10 minutes a month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm every-so-slightly older, and never had much use for just a phone.
Other people want to call me; I'm not going to make that many phone calls.A networked pocket computer, on the other hand, makes a tone of sense... I may not have grown up on cell phones, but I started learning to code when I was 12 (not that easy in 1973... fortunately, my Dad let me use his department's Cyber72 over the weekend, dial in to Bell Labs in Holmdel).
A year later, I was hacking around on UNIX, System III I think it was.Even for slightly older folks here, I doubt this all that unique... there's far more value in "pocket computer" than "pocket phone".
I tried to love the Palms, years back.
They were passable PDAs and pretty awful phones, but very bad doing the web thing.
Android seems to have fixed all of these things... it's hard to imagine not having a DROID in my pocket these days, even if I sometimes only use the phone for 10 minutes a month.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062000</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062392</id>
	<title>What a relief!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265654880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now all of you Linux fanboys won't have to think for yourselves!</p><p>Your God has chosen, and you will follow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now all of you Linux fanboys wo n't have to think for yourselves ! Your God has chosen , and you will follow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now all of you Linux fanboys won't have to think for yourselves!Your God has chosen, and you will follow.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062974</id>
	<title>I'd've thought he would be more pragmatic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265657460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd've thought he would be more pragmatic. Rather than "hate" a product, he would instead pragmatically weigh the options and take the best one. "Hating" mobile phones doesn't seem very pragmatic, more odealistic.</p><p>You know, like some are idealistic about FOSS and some pragmatic.</p><p>Given how he's always on the back of the idealists about how they should be pragmatic, it seems somewhat two-faced to hate a product...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd've thought he would be more pragmatic .
Rather than " hate " a product , he would instead pragmatically weigh the options and take the best one .
" Hating " mobile phones does n't seem very pragmatic , more odealistic.You know , like some are idealistic about FOSS and some pragmatic.Given how he 's always on the back of the idealists about how they should be pragmatic , it seems somewhat two-faced to hate a product.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd've thought he would be more pragmatic.
Rather than "hate" a product, he would instead pragmatically weigh the options and take the best one.
"Hating" mobile phones doesn't seem very pragmatic, more odealistic.You know, like some are idealistic about FOSS and some pragmatic.Given how he's always on the back of the idealists about how they should be pragmatic, it seems somewhat two-faced to hate a product...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063926</id>
	<title>Re:Original blog post</title>
	<author>Threni</author>
	<datestamp>1265662260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if this (and about half the other new Android phones) will ever become available in the UK (and I don't mean buying from abroad over the net, but somewhere with a meaningful test/buy/get fixed situation like, say, a high street shop).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if this ( and about half the other new Android phones ) will ever become available in the UK ( and I do n't mean buying from abroad over the net , but somewhere with a meaningful test/buy/get fixed situation like , say , a high street shop ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if this (and about half the other new Android phones) will ever become available in the UK (and I don't mean buying from abroad over the net, but somewhere with a meaningful test/buy/get fixed situation like, say, a high street shop).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061604</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062330</id>
	<title>Re:He bought one?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265654520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, it's not technically Linux these phones use, as it's now an incompatible Linux fork. So, I guess like the authors of this article, the company told Linus to go fork himself.</p></div><p>Well, what you're saying is <strong>not technically true</strong> either.</p><p>These phones absolutely do run the Linux kernel and anyone who says otherwise is misleading at best and trolling at worst. Period. Just because a single device driver was recently removed from the official source tree does not suddenly make the kernel any less Linux. To suggest that's the case is ignorance or stupidity.</p><p>The reality is, Android uses their own driver for power management. Their design stinks. They've refused to maintain it in the official source tree. The stinking, unmaintained driver was removed. Despite no longer being maintained in the official source tree, Google continues to maintain it in their own kernel tree - which is freely accessible to all. This was all previously covered here on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. Having said all that, it is <strong>extremely</strong> common for external drivers to be maintained outside of the official source tree for a variety of reasons. This is one of the primary reasons the dkms project exists.</p><p>Furthermore, since the source portion of Android's framework which accesses the power management driver is freely available, if someone wanted to, they could easily change the internal implementation to use Linux's official power management interface rather than Google's driver. Battery life is likely to only slightly suffer. And with small improvements to Linux's existing power management infrastructure, to bring it more in line with Google's implementation goals, battery life parity can be achieved while maintaining full Android compatibility.</p><p>At the end of the day, removal of the driver from the official source tree changes nothing for anyone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , it 's not technically Linux these phones use , as it 's now an incompatible Linux fork .
So , I guess like the authors of this article , the company told Linus to go fork himself.Well , what you 're saying is not technically true either.These phones absolutely do run the Linux kernel and anyone who says otherwise is misleading at best and trolling at worst .
Period. Just because a single device driver was recently removed from the official source tree does not suddenly make the kernel any less Linux .
To suggest that 's the case is ignorance or stupidity.The reality is , Android uses their own driver for power management .
Their design stinks .
They 've refused to maintain it in the official source tree .
The stinking , unmaintained driver was removed .
Despite no longer being maintained in the official source tree , Google continues to maintain it in their own kernel tree - which is freely accessible to all .
This was all previously covered here on / .
Having said all that , it is extremely common for external drivers to be maintained outside of the official source tree for a variety of reasons .
This is one of the primary reasons the dkms project exists.Furthermore , since the source portion of Android 's framework which accesses the power management driver is freely available , if someone wanted to , they could easily change the internal implementation to use Linux 's official power management interface rather than Google 's driver .
Battery life is likely to only slightly suffer .
And with small improvements to Linux 's existing power management infrastructure , to bring it more in line with Google 's implementation goals , battery life parity can be achieved while maintaining full Android compatibility.At the end of the day , removal of the driver from the official source tree changes nothing for anyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, it's not technically Linux these phones use, as it's now an incompatible Linux fork.
So, I guess like the authors of this article, the company told Linus to go fork himself.Well, what you're saying is not technically true either.These phones absolutely do run the Linux kernel and anyone who says otherwise is misleading at best and trolling at worst.
Period. Just because a single device driver was recently removed from the official source tree does not suddenly make the kernel any less Linux.
To suggest that's the case is ignorance or stupidity.The reality is, Android uses their own driver for power management.
Their design stinks.
They've refused to maintain it in the official source tree.
The stinking, unmaintained driver was removed.
Despite no longer being maintained in the official source tree, Google continues to maintain it in their own kernel tree - which is freely accessible to all.
This was all previously covered here on /.
Having said all that, it is extremely common for external drivers to be maintained outside of the official source tree for a variety of reasons.
This is one of the primary reasons the dkms project exists.Furthermore, since the source portion of Android's framework which accesses the power management driver is freely available, if someone wanted to, they could easily change the internal implementation to use Linux's official power management interface rather than Google's driver.
Battery life is likely to only slightly suffer.
And with small improvements to Linux's existing power management infrastructure, to bring it more in line with Google's implementation goals, battery life parity can be achieved while maintaining full Android compatibility.At the end of the day, removal of the driver from the official source tree changes nothing for anyone.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31064192</id>
	<title>Re:Inventor of the linux kernel?</title>
	<author>2short</author>
	<datestamp>1265620260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>So,<br>- there are architects and builders.<br>- you need both<br>- you must not confuse them<br><br>Who would you say is the 'architect' of the linux kernel, that drew up the plans for what Linus built?<br><br>What next, silly conflation of civil engineering with software in support of outraged but pointless semantic arguments?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So,- there are architects and builders.- you need both- you must not confuse themWho would you say is the 'architect ' of the linux kernel , that drew up the plans for what Linus built ? What next , silly conflation of civil engineering with software in support of outraged but pointless semantic arguments ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So,- there are architects and builders.- you need both- you must not confuse themWho would you say is the 'architect' of the linux kernel, that drew up the plans for what Linus built?What next, silly conflation of civil engineering with software in support of outraged but pointless semantic arguments?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063034</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31070920</id>
	<title>Re:Inventor of the linux kernel?</title>
	<author>DMiax</author>
	<datestamp>1265724660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So it should be "the man who discovered the linux kernel"? And how does Apple fit into the story?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So it should be " the man who discovered the linux kernel " ?
And how does Apple fit into the story ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it should be "the man who discovered the linux kernel"?
And how does Apple fit into the story?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063034</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31064060</id>
	<title>Re:I know I'm old fashioned, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265619720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>or maybe instead of developing a new kernel join a bsd...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>or maybe instead of developing a new kernel join a bsd.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or maybe instead of developing a new kernel join a bsd...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062344</id>
	<title>Re:So that's who that is!</title>
	<author>jamesyouwish</author>
	<datestamp>1265654580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is it Linux or Lynux?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it Linux or Lynux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it Linux or Lynux?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061796</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061630</id>
	<title>Green light!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265650920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gogogo, buybuybuy!! Let's endorse Nexus !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gogogo , buybuybuy ! !
Let 's endorse Nexus !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gogogo, buybuybuy!!
Let's endorse Nexus !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31064314</id>
	<title>Re:I know I'm old fashioned, but...</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1265620860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. You are 100\% wrong. The reason he hates phones is because he doesn't like being interrupted with phone calls.</p><p>The only reason he likes the phone is because it is a computer masquerading as a phone.</p><p>Read his own comments if you don't believe me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
You are 100 \ % wrong .
The reason he hates phones is because he does n't like being interrupted with phone calls.The only reason he likes the phone is because it is a computer masquerading as a phone.Read his own comments if you do n't believe me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
You are 100\% wrong.
The reason he hates phones is because he doesn't like being interrupted with phone calls.The only reason he likes the phone is because it is a computer masquerading as a phone.Read his own comments if you don't believe me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061680</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063842</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>2short</author>
	<datestamp>1265661720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext> The fact that the devices are running his code is, oddly, not really a reason to value his opinion of them.<br><br>But, a smart geek says that amongst the various gadgets running his code, he likes a particular one best, and briefly describes what he wants in a such a gadget that motivates this preference.  I find that his preferences in such a gadget are substantially similar to my own (in contrast to much of the world).<br><br>You think "celebrity worship" is the only reason I would be interested?  I'd be just as interested if he were any other smart geek with similar smart-phone feature desires to me.  I wouldn't know he was a smart geek without the celebrity, but I don't get the 'worship' bit. He says what he wants in a smart phone, it's the same as me, so I listen.  He says what he wants in version control software, it's different, so I don't.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that the devices are running his code is , oddly , not really a reason to value his opinion of them.But , a smart geek says that amongst the various gadgets running his code , he likes a particular one best , and briefly describes what he wants in a such a gadget that motivates this preference .
I find that his preferences in such a gadget are substantially similar to my own ( in contrast to much of the world ) .You think " celebrity worship " is the only reason I would be interested ?
I 'd be just as interested if he were any other smart geek with similar smart-phone feature desires to me .
I would n't know he was a smart geek without the celebrity , but I do n't get the 'worship ' bit .
He says what he wants in a smart phone , it 's the same as me , so I listen .
He says what he wants in version control software , it 's different , so I do n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The fact that the devices are running his code is, oddly, not really a reason to value his opinion of them.But, a smart geek says that amongst the various gadgets running his code, he likes a particular one best, and briefly describes what he wants in a such a gadget that motivates this preference.
I find that his preferences in such a gadget are substantially similar to my own (in contrast to much of the world).You think "celebrity worship" is the only reason I would be interested?
I'd be just as interested if he were any other smart geek with similar smart-phone feature desires to me.
I wouldn't know he was a smart geek without the celebrity, but I don't get the 'worship' bit.
He says what he wants in a smart phone, it's the same as me, so I listen.
He says what he wants in version control software, it's different, so I don't.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31065070</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>microbee</author>
	<datestamp>1265623980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You sound like you do care, but are just confused about why.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You sound like you do care , but are just confused about why .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You sound like you do care, but are just confused about why.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061586</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062920</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>JoshuaZ</author>
	<datestamp>1265657220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are correct that in general, there's no good reason to listen to the opinion of a celebrity. However, one might argue that Torvalds is someone who has relevant expertise. Given his background in programming and extensive experience with all sorts of computer systems, it isn't unreasonable for someone to see him as an expert in this case whose opinion is worth listening to. Neil deGrasse Tyson is a celebrity but his opinion on many science issues is still pretty relevant.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are correct that in general , there 's no good reason to listen to the opinion of a celebrity .
However , one might argue that Torvalds is someone who has relevant expertise .
Given his background in programming and extensive experience with all sorts of computer systems , it is n't unreasonable for someone to see him as an expert in this case whose opinion is worth listening to .
Neil deGrasse Tyson is a celebrity but his opinion on many science issues is still pretty relevant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are correct that in general, there's no good reason to listen to the opinion of a celebrity.
However, one might argue that Torvalds is someone who has relevant expertise.
Given his background in programming and extensive experience with all sorts of computer systems, it isn't unreasonable for someone to see him as an expert in this case whose opinion is worth listening to.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is a celebrity but his opinion on many science issues is still pretty relevant.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062060</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062102</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1265653140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most "in dash" GPs's are inferior than a $99.00 pocket cheapie.</p><p>Why?  well the Updates for in dash units are typically so outlandish that nobody buys them A buddy of mine has a BMW 525i that it will cost him $399.00 for the map data update discs, he bought a pocket garmin unit he stuck to the windshield.. I buy a new $99.00 garmin yearly and that not only gives me a new map data set, but new hardware to boot!<br>
&nbsp; Plus I get POI data.  press one button and it will tell me that the next two exits have gas stations and restaurants..</p><p>Nope, it's dumb to spend a couple grand on an in dash unit and then pay out the butt yearly for updates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most " in dash " GPs 's are inferior than a $ 99.00 pocket cheapie.Why ?
well the Updates for in dash units are typically so outlandish that nobody buys them A buddy of mine has a BMW 525i that it will cost him $ 399.00 for the map data update discs , he bought a pocket garmin unit he stuck to the windshield.. I buy a new $ 99.00 garmin yearly and that not only gives me a new map data set , but new hardware to boot !
  Plus I get POI data .
press one button and it will tell me that the next two exits have gas stations and restaurants..Nope , it 's dumb to spend a couple grand on an in dash unit and then pay out the butt yearly for updates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most "in dash" GPs's are inferior than a $99.00 pocket cheapie.Why?
well the Updates for in dash units are typically so outlandish that nobody buys them A buddy of mine has a BMW 525i that it will cost him $399.00 for the map data update discs, he bought a pocket garmin unit he stuck to the windshield.. I buy a new $99.00 garmin yearly and that not only gives me a new map data set, but new hardware to boot!
  Plus I get POI data.
press one button and it will tell me that the next two exits have gas stations and restaurants..Nope, it's dumb to spend a couple grand on an in dash unit and then pay out the butt yearly for updates.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061510</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062882</id>
	<title>Re:stupid Linus</title>
	<author>Skuld-Chan</author>
	<datestamp>1265657100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You ever stop and think that a person who developed the core of an OS and gave it away isn't in it for the money?</p><p>I think if more people behaved like Linus this would be a more pleasant world to live in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You ever stop and think that a person who developed the core of an OS and gave it away is n't in it for the money ? I think if more people behaved like Linus this would be a more pleasant world to live in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You ever stop and think that a person who developed the core of an OS and gave it away isn't in it for the money?I think if more people behaved like Linus this would be a more pleasant world to live in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061826</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061796</id>
	<title>So that's who that is!</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1265651520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Linus Torvalds, the inventor of the Linux kernel, has an absolute disdain for mobile phones.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Finally, an article summary that explainings who some obscure person is, rather than assuming we know everyone in the tech universe.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus Torvalds , the inventor of the Linux kernel , has an absolute disdain for mobile phones .
Finally , an article summary that explainings who some obscure person is , rather than assuming we know everyone in the tech universe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus Torvalds, the inventor of the Linux kernel, has an absolute disdain for mobile phones.
Finally, an article summary that explainings who some obscure person is, rather than assuming we know everyone in the tech universe.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062950</id>
	<title>Re:but...</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1265657340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More likely, no one thinks he's famous enough to warrant free stuff.  People like... I don't know... Beyonce might get a free phone sent to her in the hopes that she'll be seen talking on it, caught by the paparazzi or whatever.  How often is Linus being stalked by paparazzi?
</p><p>Otherwise reviewers might get free stuff to review, but to my knowledge Linus isn't famous for his reviews.  In the case of someone like Bill Gates, he probably wouldn't go into Verizon's local store and ask for a free Windows-based phone or something.  He'd more likely email some executive he knows at Motorola (or whoever) and ask to have one sent to him.  I don't think Torvalds fits into any of these categories.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More likely , no one thinks he 's famous enough to warrant free stuff .
People like... I do n't know... Beyonce might get a free phone sent to her in the hopes that she 'll be seen talking on it , caught by the paparazzi or whatever .
How often is Linus being stalked by paparazzi ?
Otherwise reviewers might get free stuff to review , but to my knowledge Linus is n't famous for his reviews .
In the case of someone like Bill Gates , he probably would n't go into Verizon 's local store and ask for a free Windows-based phone or something .
He 'd more likely email some executive he knows at Motorola ( or whoever ) and ask to have one sent to him .
I do n't think Torvalds fits into any of these categories .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More likely, no one thinks he's famous enough to warrant free stuff.
People like... I don't know... Beyonce might get a free phone sent to her in the hopes that she'll be seen talking on it, caught by the paparazzi or whatever.
How often is Linus being stalked by paparazzi?
Otherwise reviewers might get free stuff to review, but to my knowledge Linus isn't famous for his reviews.
In the case of someone like Bill Gates, he probably wouldn't go into Verizon's local store and ask for a free Windows-based phone or something.
He'd more likely email some executive he knows at Motorola (or whoever) and ask to have one sent to him.
I don't think Torvalds fits into any of these categories.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062700</id>
	<title>Re:I know I'm old fashioned, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265656320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He means he gets a phone with OTHER features, yet despite that he still didn't use them (me either, I have a bunch of things which I never use on my phone). The point is he actually got a phone with extra features that he wants to use and does.<br>Linus would probably have a hard time finding a phone that just does calls.</p><p>Phones have had games for AGES. especially nokia ones. Some of the first cellphones I saw in the late 90's and early 2000's had Galaga or Solitaire.</p><p>I don't own a smartphone and don't plan on owning one until Canadian data plans become reasonable (so a long time), I also don't need one for work, and I don't need to check my email or social network when i'm not at my computer (those people can call).<br>Doesn't mean there does not exist in the set of all people one who does. Some of us also like toys and new tech. Not everything in life is out of need.</p><p>Most people in the modern world need a cellphone. It's stupid to not own one these days, landlines are becoming obsolete for younger people.</p><p>your dream of a non invasive cellphone/connected world will not exist, go back to the 90's. AND TURN YOUR DAMN PHONE ON!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He means he gets a phone with OTHER features , yet despite that he still did n't use them ( me either , I have a bunch of things which I never use on my phone ) .
The point is he actually got a phone with extra features that he wants to use and does.Linus would probably have a hard time finding a phone that just does calls.Phones have had games for AGES .
especially nokia ones .
Some of the first cellphones I saw in the late 90 's and early 2000 's had Galaga or Solitaire.I do n't own a smartphone and do n't plan on owning one until Canadian data plans become reasonable ( so a long time ) , I also do n't need one for work , and I do n't need to check my email or social network when i 'm not at my computer ( those people can call ) .Does n't mean there does not exist in the set of all people one who does .
Some of us also like toys and new tech .
Not everything in life is out of need.Most people in the modern world need a cellphone .
It 's stupid to not own one these days , landlines are becoming obsolete for younger people.your dream of a non invasive cellphone/connected world will not exist , go back to the 90 's .
AND TURN YOUR DAMN PHONE ON !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He means he gets a phone with OTHER features, yet despite that he still didn't use them (me either, I have a bunch of things which I never use on my phone).
The point is he actually got a phone with extra features that he wants to use and does.Linus would probably have a hard time finding a phone that just does calls.Phones have had games for AGES.
especially nokia ones.
Some of the first cellphones I saw in the late 90's and early 2000's had Galaga or Solitaire.I don't own a smartphone and don't plan on owning one until Canadian data plans become reasonable (so a long time), I also don't need one for work, and I don't need to check my email or social network when i'm not at my computer (those people can call).Doesn't mean there does not exist in the set of all people one who does.
Some of us also like toys and new tech.
Not everything in life is out of need.Most people in the modern world need a cellphone.
It's stupid to not own one these days, landlines are becoming obsolete for younger people.your dream of a non invasive cellphone/connected world will not exist, go back to the 90's.
AND TURN YOUR DAMN PHONE ON!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062040</id>
	<title>Linus Torvalds' employee of Google?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265652840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't Linus Torvalds an employee of Google?  Advocating his own employer's phone gives little weight.  He is paid to say these kind words.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't Linus Torvalds an employee of Google ?
Advocating his own employer 's phone gives little weight .
He is paid to say these kind words .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't Linus Torvalds an employee of Google?
Advocating his own employer's phone gives little weight.
He is paid to say these kind words.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061628</id>
	<title>... was glad to hear it ...</title>
	<author>ninjagin</author>
	<datestamp>1265650920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't share much in common with Linus except maybe the phone, but I got my N1 exactly because of how evolved android had become, how beefy the hardware specs were (I was building PCs with roughly the same specs 8 years ago), and because I preferred a phone not marketed to me with a direct tie-in with a carrier. Overtly unlocked? Yes, please. Granted, it's not for everyone, but it is my first smartphone and I'm glad I waited.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't share much in common with Linus except maybe the phone , but I got my N1 exactly because of how evolved android had become , how beefy the hardware specs were ( I was building PCs with roughly the same specs 8 years ago ) , and because I preferred a phone not marketed to me with a direct tie-in with a carrier .
Overtly unlocked ?
Yes , please .
Granted , it 's not for everyone , but it is my first smartphone and I 'm glad I waited .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't share much in common with Linus except maybe the phone, but I got my N1 exactly because of how evolved android had become, how beefy the hardware specs were (I was building PCs with roughly the same specs 8 years ago), and because I preferred a phone not marketed to me with a direct tie-in with a carrier.
Overtly unlocked?
Yes, please.
Granted, it's not for everyone, but it is my first smartphone and I'm glad I waited.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061736</id>
	<title>Mislabelled</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265651280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>This phone shall be referred to as the <b>"GNU/Nexus One with GNU/Linux"</b>.<br>Now excuse me, I have to comb my beard.<br> <br> <i>Richard</i> <br> <br>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This phone shall be referred to as the " GNU/Nexus One with GNU/Linux " .Now excuse me , I have to comb my beard .
Richard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This phone shall be referred to as the "GNU/Nexus One with GNU/Linux".Now excuse me, I have to comb my beard.
Richard  .</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063508</id>
	<title>Re:He hates mobile phones?!</title>
	<author>elmartinos</author>
	<datestamp>1265660040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least they have <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmfkWRd7c3w" title="youtube.com">mobile phone throwing chamionships</a> [youtube.com]...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least they have mobile phone throwing chamionships [ youtube.com ] .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least they have mobile phone throwing chamionships [youtube.com]...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061548</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061494</id>
	<title>He bought one?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265650260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why? I mean the man is responsible for the free kernel that the phones use. The least companies could do is send him a free one with service contract. I thought Linus did get gifts like that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
I mean the man is responsible for the free kernel that the phones use .
The least companies could do is send him a free one with service contract .
I thought Linus did get gifts like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
I mean the man is responsible for the free kernel that the phones use.
The least companies could do is send him a free one with service contract.
I thought Linus did get gifts like that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061604</id>
	<title>Original blog post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265650800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2010/02/happy-camper.html" title="blogspot.com">here</a> [blogspot.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>here [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>here [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31064532</id>
	<title>Same thing here</title>
	<author>C\_Kode</author>
	<datestamp>1265621820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was highly interested in the Nexus One, but wasn't sure.  With the recent updates Google just made, I took the plunge too.</p><p>If you've got the cash, do the non-subsidized one.  You can get a rate plan that is about $20 a month cheaper from T-Mobile.  After two years, thats a $480 savings.  That cuts the $529 you paid down to $49 over two years.  Thats $130 less ($179) than if you signup as a new T-Mobile customer or $230 less ($279) if you're already a customer.  (I'm already a customer)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was highly interested in the Nexus One , but was n't sure .
With the recent updates Google just made , I took the plunge too.If you 've got the cash , do the non-subsidized one .
You can get a rate plan that is about $ 20 a month cheaper from T-Mobile .
After two years , thats a $ 480 savings .
That cuts the $ 529 you paid down to $ 49 over two years .
Thats $ 130 less ( $ 179 ) than if you signup as a new T-Mobile customer or $ 230 less ( $ 279 ) if you 're already a customer .
( I 'm already a customer )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was highly interested in the Nexus One, but wasn't sure.
With the recent updates Google just made, I took the plunge too.If you've got the cash, do the non-subsidized one.
You can get a rate plan that is about $20 a month cheaper from T-Mobile.
After two years, thats a $480 savings.
That cuts the $529 you paid down to $49 over two years.
Thats $130 less ($179) than if you signup as a new T-Mobile customer or $230 less ($279) if you're already a customer.
(I'm already a customer)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061876</id>
	<title>Re:but...</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1265652000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Send him a reply asking for a job as his sycophant/prostitute-acquisition-manager?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Send him a reply asking for a job as his sycophant/prostitute-acquisition-manager ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Send him a reply asking for a job as his sycophant/prostitute-acquisition-manager?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061608</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31067644</id>
	<title>What about RMS</title>
	<author>jonwil</author>
	<datestamp>1265637360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there a phone that Stalman would be happy to use?<br>Or is even the OpenMoko project too proprietary for his taste?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there a phone that Stalman would be happy to use ? Or is even the OpenMoko project too proprietary for his taste ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there a phone that Stalman would be happy to use?Or is even the OpenMoko project too proprietary for his taste?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061988</id>
	<title>Ahh, I think I've spotted his problem</title>
	<author>petes\_PoV</author>
	<datestamp>1265652540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights</p></div><p>He's confused a mobile phone for a games console. A surprising mistake really, considering how well-versed he is on most other technical fields. Personally, all I want from a phone is a few buttons that let me call people and a very, very long battery life. If I ever felt the need to play video games I'd use something that has a screen large enough that I didn't get annoyed at it - with Linus seems to, from his response.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flightsHe 's confused a mobile phone for a games console .
A surprising mistake really , considering how well-versed he is on most other technical fields .
Personally , all I want from a phone is a few buttons that let me call people and a very , very long battery life .
If I ever felt the need to play video games I 'd use something that has a screen large enough that I did n't get annoyed at it - with Linus seems to , from his response .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flightsHe's confused a mobile phone for a games console.
A surprising mistake really, considering how well-versed he is on most other technical fields.
Personally, all I want from a phone is a few buttons that let me call people and a very, very long battery life.
If I ever felt the need to play video games I'd use something that has a screen large enough that I didn't get annoyed at it - with Linus seems to, from his response.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062966</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1265657460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I buy a new $99.00 garmin yearly and that not only gives me a new map data set, but new hardware to boot!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>Nope, it's dumb to spend a couple grand on an in dash unit and then pay out the butt yearly for updates.</p></div><p>Times have changed. Now the biggest manufacturer of cellphones offers proper navigation in their smartphones, with free updates.</p><p>It's dumb to spend additional $99 yearly.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I buy a new $ 99.00 garmin yearly and that not only gives me a new map data set , but new hardware to boot !
...Nope , it 's dumb to spend a couple grand on an in dash unit and then pay out the butt yearly for updates.Times have changed .
Now the biggest manufacturer of cellphones offers proper navigation in their smartphones , with free updates.It 's dumb to spend additional $ 99 yearly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I buy a new $99.00 garmin yearly and that not only gives me a new map data set, but new hardware to boot!
...Nope, it's dumb to spend a couple grand on an in dash unit and then pay out the butt yearly for updates.Times have changed.
Now the biggest manufacturer of cellphones offers proper navigation in their smartphones, with free updates.It's dumb to spend additional $99 yearly.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062282</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265654160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[i]I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why?[/i]</p><p>You care enough to be reading this thread.</p><p>I'll sell you my copyrighted/patented hyper turbo method of saving time for only $699/cpu. Cash and credit cards only.</p><p>It's a simple but effective technique - Just don't click on threads you don't care about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ i ] I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why ?
[ /i ] You care enough to be reading this thread.I 'll sell you my copyrighted/patented hyper turbo method of saving time for only $ 699/cpu .
Cash and credit cards only.It 's a simple but effective technique - Just do n't click on threads you do n't care about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[i]I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why?
[/i]You care enough to be reading this thread.I'll sell you my copyrighted/patented hyper turbo method of saving time for only $699/cpu.
Cash and credit cards only.It's a simple but effective technique - Just don't click on threads you don't care about.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062148</id>
	<title>Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving?</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1265653380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so instead he can be distracted by the in-dash gps?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so instead he can be distracted by the in-dash gps ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so instead he can be distracted by the in-dash gps?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063004</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1265657640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well people are psychologically built to defer to authority figures (not all the time, but often), and our natural notion of "authority figures" are people who are stronger, better looking, and more popular.  It's unfortunate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well people are psychologically built to defer to authority figures ( not all the time , but often ) , and our natural notion of " authority figures " are people who are stronger , better looking , and more popular .
It 's unfortunate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well people are psychologically built to defer to authority figures (not all the time, but often), and our natural notion of "authority figures" are people who are stronger, better looking, and more popular.
It's unfortunate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31064104</id>
	<title>Re:Original blog post</title>
	<author>Little\_Professor</author>
	<datestamp>1265619900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The summary links to a WashingtonPost.com story quoting an Androidcommunity.com story quoting a linux.com story about Linus's original blog post.

Why don't they just link directly to the original source?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The summary links to a WashingtonPost.com story quoting an Androidcommunity.com story quoting a linux.com story about Linus 's original blog post .
Why do n't they just link directly to the original source ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary links to a WashingtonPost.com story quoting an Androidcommunity.com story quoting a linux.com story about Linus's original blog post.
Why don't they just link directly to the original source?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31063428</id>
	<title>Re:Mislabelled</title>
	<author>tuppe666</author>
	<datestamp>1265659680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To be fair I have for a long time come to the conclusion that Linux is the wrong description for anything other than what it is the kernel. I like GNU/Linux of Kernel+Tools but in the world of ChomeOS and Android and Meano 5 and Linmo. Its not than I'm excited by GNU. I'd rather call my Operating X because it sounds cool...Or Gnome/Firefox as that's where I spend most of my time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair I have for a long time come to the conclusion that Linux is the wrong description for anything other than what it is the kernel .
I like GNU/Linux of Kernel + Tools but in the world of ChomeOS and Android and Meano 5 and Linmo .
Its not than I 'm excited by GNU .
I 'd rather call my Operating X because it sounds cool...Or Gnome/Firefox as that 's where I spend most of my time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair I have for a long time come to the conclusion that Linux is the wrong description for anything other than what it is the kernel.
I like GNU/Linux of Kernel+Tools but in the world of ChomeOS and Android and Meano 5 and Linmo.
Its not than I'm excited by GNU.
I'd rather call my Operating X because it sounds cool...Or Gnome/Firefox as that's where I spend most of my time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31061778</id>
	<title>Re:Why</title>
	<author>3dr</author>
	<datestamp>1265651460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ditto.</p><p>ObCarAnalogy: It's like listening to the Woz yammer on about how he doesn't understand how cruise control systems work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ditto.ObCarAnalogy : It 's like listening to the Woz yammer on about how he does n't understand how cruise control systems work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ditto.ObCarAnalogy: It's like listening to the Woz yammer on about how he doesn't understand how cruise control systems work.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_08_1551220.31062430</id>
	<title>Re:So that's who that is!</title>
	<author>Sulphur</author>
	<datestamp>1265655060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>absolute disdain</p><p>Actually unsigned long disdain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>absolute disdainActually unsigned long disdain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>absolute disdainActually unsigned long disdain.</sentencetext>
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