<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_04_045243</id>
	<title>USPTO Won't Accept Upside Down Faxes</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1265290860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>bizwriter writes <i>"This may seem like a joke, but it's not. The US Patent and Trademark Office <a href="http://industry.bnet.com/technology/10005104/uspto-wont-accept-upside-down-faxes-demands-resends/">will not accept patent filings faxed in if they arrive upside down</a>. That's right, the home of innovation of the federal government is incapable of rotating an incoming fax file, whether electronically or on paper."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>bizwriter writes " This may seem like a joke , but it 's not .
The US Patent and Trademark Office will not accept patent filings faxed in if they arrive upside down .
That 's right , the home of innovation of the federal government is incapable of rotating an incoming fax file , whether electronically or on paper .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bizwriter writes "This may seem like a joke, but it's not.
The US Patent and Trademark Office will not accept patent filings faxed in if they arrive upside down.
That's right, the home of innovation of the federal government is incapable of rotating an incoming fax file, whether electronically or on paper.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022926</id>
	<title>Einstein was a patent clerk...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265302020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If only Albert Einstein was still a patent clerk we wouldn't have this problem.<br>
&nbsp; <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...of course, the patents would probably be in German, but it would be right-side up of course.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If only Albert Einstein was still a patent clerk we would n't have this problem .
  ...of course , the patents would probably be in German , but it would be right-side up of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only Albert Einstein was still a patent clerk we wouldn't have this problem.
   ...of course, the patents would probably be in German, but it would be right-side up of course.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021686</id>
	<title>In a similar fashion</title>
	<author>JamesP</author>
	<datestamp>1265295960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>next time you're at McDonalds (or whatever), while the person is filling your order, rotate the tray.</p><p>What I mean is, they'll probably put the burguer or soda first, then the fries, when there's only the first item in your tray, rotate it.</p><p>have fun</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>next time you 're at McDonalds ( or whatever ) , while the person is filling your order , rotate the tray.What I mean is , they 'll probably put the burguer or soda first , then the fries , when there 's only the first item in your tray , rotate it.have fun</tokentext>
<sentencetext>next time you're at McDonalds (or whatever), while the person is filling your order, rotate the tray.What I mean is, they'll probably put the burguer or soda first, then the fries, when there's only the first item in your tray, rotate it.have fun</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023646</id>
	<title>Re:They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265305320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mickey Mouse says SHUT UP!<br><br>(Yes, I know trademark vs patent, but that's the point, eh?)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mickey Mouse says SHUT UP !
( Yes , I know trademark vs patent , but that 's the point , eh ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mickey Mouse says SHUT UP!
(Yes, I know trademark vs patent, but that's the point, eh?
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022266</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025806</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>jackspenn</author>
	<datestamp>1265316300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just send every single tax filing both ways. The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected. Twice the work for the government.</p></div><p>
Great idea, you should patent it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just send every single tax filing both ways .
The right one gets filed , and wrong one gets rejected .
Twice the work for the government .
Great idea , you should patent it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just send every single tax filing both ways.
The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected.
Twice the work for the government.
Great idea, you should patent it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31034542</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265385720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone patented the process of rotating an upside-down fax, so they just don't want to get sued.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone patented the process of rotating an upside-down fax , so they just do n't want to get sued .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone patented the process of rotating an upside-down fax, so they just don't want to get sued.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024336</id>
	<title>This is...</title>
	<author>Aradiel</author>
	<datestamp>1265308620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is... patently ridiculous.





I'll get my coat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is... patently ridiculous .
I 'll get my coat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is... patently ridiculous.
I'll get my coat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022734</id>
	<title>Gov will run our health care the same way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These are the same people that are going to run our health care. Better hope you don't get in an accident and they bring you in feet first. They may reject you and insist you get in the back of the line and come in head first.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These are the same people that are going to run our health care .
Better hope you do n't get in an accident and they bring you in feet first .
They may reject you and insist you get in the back of the line and come in head first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These are the same people that are going to run our health care.
Better hope you don't get in an accident and they bring you in feet first.
They may reject you and insist you get in the back of the line and come in head first.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022642</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>ae1294</author>
	<datestamp>1265300700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just send every single tax filing both ways. The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected. Twice the work for the government.</p></div><p>You forgot they loose the first couple... Best send 10 right side up and 10 solid black versions wrong side right.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just send every single tax filing both ways .
The right one gets filed , and wrong one gets rejected .
Twice the work for the government.You forgot they loose the first couple... Best send 10 right side up and 10 solid black versions wrong side right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just send every single tax filing both ways.
The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected.
Twice the work for the government.You forgot they loose the first couple... Best send 10 right side up and 10 solid black versions wrong side right.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021682</id>
	<title>Cost cutting measures</title>
	<author>CSHARP123</author>
	<datestamp>1265295900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Govt is trying to save money due to budget shortfall. Here is the typical steps involved in collecting the fax that came through (Manual operation)<br>
1. Person (Govt Employee) needs to get up from his chair<br>
2. Walk towards the Fax machine<br>
3. Collect the papers<br>
4. Walk back towards his/her cubicle<br>
5. Sit down<br>
<br>
If people are sending fax upside down, the person has to perform an extra step of rotating the pages. By cutting that step, the govt is saving enormous amount of money. Also think about dealing with Govt Employee Union if they added this extra step</htmltext>
<tokenext>Govt is trying to save money due to budget shortfall .
Here is the typical steps involved in collecting the fax that came through ( Manual operation ) 1 .
Person ( Govt Employee ) needs to get up from his chair 2 .
Walk towards the Fax machine 3 .
Collect the papers 4 .
Walk back towards his/her cubicle 5 .
Sit down If people are sending fax upside down , the person has to perform an extra step of rotating the pages .
By cutting that step , the govt is saving enormous amount of money .
Also think about dealing with Govt Employee Union if they added this extra step</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Govt is trying to save money due to budget shortfall.
Here is the typical steps involved in collecting the fax that came through (Manual operation)
1.
Person (Govt Employee) needs to get up from his chair
2.
Walk towards the Fax machine
3.
Collect the papers
4.
Walk back towards his/her cubicle
5.
Sit down

If people are sending fax upside down, the person has to perform an extra step of rotating the pages.
By cutting that step, the govt is saving enormous amount of money.
Also think about dealing with Govt Employee Union if they added this extra step</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021750</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1265296260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then wouldn't the reason be "we received a blank page"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then would n't the reason be " we received a blank page " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then wouldn't the reason be "we received a blank page"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021618</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023396</id>
	<title>I had a solution...</title>
	<author>interval1066</author>
	<datestamp>1265304120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its a fax machine bolted to a lazy susan. As soon as a fax comes in, if fax is printed "upside down", all a tech has to do is rotate the lazy susan. So I went and filed this great new invention, but apparently it was rejected as the patent office received it upside down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its a fax machine bolted to a lazy susan .
As soon as a fax comes in , if fax is printed " upside down " , all a tech has to do is rotate the lazy susan .
So I went and filed this great new invention , but apparently it was rejected as the patent office received it upside down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its a fax machine bolted to a lazy susan.
As soon as a fax comes in, if fax is printed "upside down", all a tech has to do is rotate the lazy susan.
So I went and filed this great new invention, but apparently it was rejected as the patent office received it upside down.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023036</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265302560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the patent office is fee based, not tax based.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the patent office is fee based , not tax based .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the patent office is fee based, not tax based.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022844</id>
	<title>Re:simple reason.</title>
	<author>jefu</author>
	<datestamp>1265301600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the comments to TFA one suggestion is that the patent office people may not be allowed to modify the submitted forms in any way (which seems a good idea in general to prevent fraud) and that even a simple rotation of the text could be interpreted as modification, so they can't rotate the text.

Taking a good idea a step too far, I suspect, but such is the nature of bureaucracy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the comments to TFA one suggestion is that the patent office people may not be allowed to modify the submitted forms in any way ( which seems a good idea in general to prevent fraud ) and that even a simple rotation of the text could be interpreted as modification , so they ca n't rotate the text .
Taking a good idea a step too far , I suspect , but such is the nature of bureaucracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the comments to TFA one suggestion is that the patent office people may not be allowed to modify the submitted forms in any way (which seems a good idea in general to prevent fraud) and that even a simple rotation of the text could be interpreted as modification, so they can't rotate the text.
Taking a good idea a step too far, I suspect, but such is the nature of bureaucracy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024000</id>
	<title>Sounds great</title>
	<author>tthomas48</author>
	<datestamp>1265307180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US Patent Office is inundated with patents. If you can't follow directions I see no reason why they should have to work harder to fix your mistake. This sounds like an efficient use of government time and funds. Sure they COULD put in software to rotate the documents, but why?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US Patent Office is inundated with patents .
If you ca n't follow directions I see no reason why they should have to work harder to fix your mistake .
This sounds like an efficient use of government time and funds .
Sure they COULD put in software to rotate the documents , but why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US Patent Office is inundated with patents.
If you can't follow directions I see no reason why they should have to work harder to fix your mistake.
This sounds like an efficient use of government time and funds.
Sure they COULD put in software to rotate the documents, but why?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022758</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did not get the reference, but will Spam you up too<br>oh I must be new here</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did not get the reference , but will Spam you up toooh I must be new here</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did not get the reference, but will Spam you up toooh I must be new here</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022264</id>
	<title>Re:umop apisdn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265298720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have used the LEADTools Imaging SDKs to perform this task. Take a look at <a href="http://www.leadtools.com/downloads/evaluationform.htm?linkid=top\_menu" title="leadtools.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.leadtools.com/downloads/evaluationform.htm?linkid=top\_menu</a> [leadtools.com]
Here is a sample code from some guy to do that in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.Net. <a href="http://www.codeproject.com/KB/showcase/ScanCleanOCRSave.aspx" title="codeproject.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.codeproject.com/KB/showcase/ScanCleanOCRSave.aspx</a> [codeproject.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have used the LEADTools Imaging SDKs to perform this task .
Take a look at http : //www.leadtools.com/downloads/evaluationform.htm ? linkid = top \ _menu [ leadtools.com ] Here is a sample code from some guy to do that in .Net .
http : //www.codeproject.com/KB/showcase/ScanCleanOCRSave.aspx [ codeproject.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have used the LEADTools Imaging SDKs to perform this task.
Take a look at http://www.leadtools.com/downloads/evaluationform.htm?linkid=top\_menu [leadtools.com]
Here is a sample code from some guy to do that in .Net.
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/showcase/ScanCleanOCRSave.aspx [codeproject.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021832</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023746</id>
	<title>How strange.</title>
	<author>dotfile</author>
	<datestamp>1265305800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll apparently accept crap applications for obviously unpatentable technology...  just as long as the FAX is right side up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll apparently accept crap applications for obviously unpatentable technology... just as long as the FAX is right side up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll apparently accept crap applications for obviously unpatentable technology...  just as long as the FAX is right side up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025518</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>crazyvas</author>
	<datestamp>1265314260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, silly. Anybody knows they keep the W, E, and the 3s. They only throw away all the M, 3, and the Es.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , silly .
Anybody knows they keep the W , E , and the 3s .
They only throw away all the M , 3 , and the Es .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, silly.
Anybody knows they keep the W, E, and the 3s.
They only throw away all the M, 3, and the Es.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024594</id>
	<title>Re:They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>need4mospd</author>
	<datestamp>1265309700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about they turn it 540 degrees! or maybe 90 degrees, then 270 in the other direction!</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about they turn it 540 degrees !
or maybe 90 degrees , then 270 in the other direction !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about they turn it 540 degrees!
or maybe 90 degrees, then 270 in the other direction!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022528</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265300160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>When they buy a bag of M&amp;Ms do they throw away all the W, E and 3s too?</p></div><p>Why was that moded 'Funny'?</p><p>The other day, I went to Home Depot and bought nails. I get home, open the box, and what do I see?! Over half - HALF- of the fucking nails have the points on the wrong end!</p><p>Inconceivable!</p></div><p>They are to be used on the opposite side of the wall !</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When they buy a bag of M&amp;Ms do they throw away all the W , E and 3s too ? Why was that moded 'Funny ' ? The other day , I went to Home Depot and bought nails .
I get home , open the box , and what do I see ? !
Over half - HALF- of the fucking nails have the points on the wrong end ! Inconceivable ! They are to be used on the opposite side of the wall !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When they buy a bag of M&amp;Ms do they throw away all the W, E and 3s too?Why was that moded 'Funny'?The other day, I went to Home Depot and bought nails.
I get home, open the box, and what do I see?!
Over half - HALF- of the fucking nails have the points on the wrong end!Inconceivable!They are to be used on the opposite side of the wall !
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022448</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down could mean wrong sheet face up</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265299740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since the submission consist of multiple pages (oath, spec, drawings, claims, etc.), the explanation that "upside down" means that some of the pages were faxed so that the back of the page was transmitted is most likely. If the transmission was missing essential information to receive a filing date, then it makes sense that the USPTO would be unable to continue processing the application.

See <a href="http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/0600\_601\_01\_d.htm" title="uspto.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/0600\_601\_01\_d.htm</a> [uspto.gov]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the submission consist of multiple pages ( oath , spec , drawings , claims , etc .
) , the explanation that " upside down " means that some of the pages were faxed so that the back of the page was transmitted is most likely .
If the transmission was missing essential information to receive a filing date , then it makes sense that the USPTO would be unable to continue processing the application .
See http : //www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/0600 \ _601 \ _01 \ _d.htm [ uspto.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the submission consist of multiple pages (oath, spec, drawings, claims, etc.
), the explanation that "upside down" means that some of the pages were faxed so that the back of the page was transmitted is most likely.
If the transmission was missing essential information to receive a filing date, then it makes sense that the USPTO would be unable to continue processing the application.
See http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/0600\_601\_01\_d.htm [uspto.gov]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021700</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021876</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. You're supposed to use your brain (some chance) to see that it would be simpler for the patent office to rotate the fax (one click is all it takes) than to throw the thing in the bin and either, inform the sender of the action, or worse, not inform them leaving them to work out for themselves why there has been no reply.</p><p>You might lighten up and dig out your sense of humour too. Miserable git.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
You 're supposed to use your brain ( some chance ) to see that it would be simpler for the patent office to rotate the fax ( one click is all it takes ) than to throw the thing in the bin and either , inform the sender of the action , or worse , not inform them leaving them to work out for themselves why there has been no reply.You might lighten up and dig out your sense of humour too .
Miserable git .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
You're supposed to use your brain (some chance) to see that it would be simpler for the patent office to rotate the fax (one click is all it takes) than to throw the thing in the bin and either, inform the sender of the action, or worse, not inform them leaving them to work out for themselves why there has been no reply.You might lighten up and dig out your sense of humour too.
Miserable git.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021780</id>
	<title>Re:professionals</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't the patent office insisting on professionalism, it is the patent office insisting on bureaucratic nonsense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't the patent office insisting on professionalism , it is the patent office insisting on bureaucratic nonsense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't the patent office insisting on professionalism, it is the patent office insisting on bureaucratic nonsense.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021546</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022458</id>
	<title>Good policy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265299800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was like when I worked in construction.  When hammering in a nail I would pull one from my bag... if it was facing the other way I knew it was for the other side of the wall.  I always wound up with about 50-50 split of nails facing one way or the other.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was like when I worked in construction .
When hammering in a nail I would pull one from my bag... if it was facing the other way I knew it was for the other side of the wall .
I always wound up with about 50-50 split of nails facing one way or the other .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was like when I worked in construction.
When hammering in a nail I would pull one from my bag... if it was facing the other way I knew it was for the other side of the wall.
I always wound up with about 50-50 split of nails facing one way or the other.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021462</id>
	<title>How can they read them anyway?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265294700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With their heads jammed so far up their asses?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With their heads jammed so far up their asses ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With their heads jammed so far up their asses?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026894</id>
	<title>Re:In all seriousness...</title>
	<author>hawaiian717</author>
	<datestamp>1265277480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not if you press hard enough with your sharpie:</p><p><a href="http://wonkette.com/413038/backwards-faxing-mexican-despising-bleeding-marker-bandit-strikes-again" title="wonkette.com">http://wonkette.com/413038/backwards-faxing-mexican-despising-bleeding-marker-bandit-strikes-again</a> [wonkette.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not if you press hard enough with your sharpie : http : //wonkette.com/413038/backwards-faxing-mexican-despising-bleeding-marker-bandit-strikes-again [ wonkette.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not if you press hard enough with your sharpie:http://wonkette.com/413038/backwards-faxing-mexican-despising-bleeding-marker-bandit-strikes-again [wonkette.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021804</id>
	<title>Re:They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Haha, they could have just rotated the upside down papers 270 degrees, <i>twice</i>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Haha , they could have just rotated the upside down papers 270 degrees , twice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haha, they could have just rotated the upside down papers 270 degrees, twice.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31029850</id>
	<title>Header orientation</title>
	<author>riverat1</author>
	<datestamp>1265293860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I agree with most posters here that it's a silly rule I would point out that the fax header orientation in this case is opposite of the body orientation.  If what is in the header is important to the USPTO (timestamp?) they may have a minor point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I agree with most posters here that it 's a silly rule I would point out that the fax header orientation in this case is opposite of the body orientation .
If what is in the header is important to the USPTO ( timestamp ?
) they may have a minor point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I agree with most posters here that it's a silly rule I would point out that the fax header orientation in this case is opposite of the body orientation.
If what is in the header is important to the USPTO (timestamp?
) they may have a minor point.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021568</id>
	<title>This really should be filedd undeer "idle..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265295180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just can't see any insightful or interesting comments coming from this, much less the story itself.
<p>
And I don't mean that in any sort of disrespectful way. This just seems more suited to the "idle" section for its absurdity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just ca n't see any insightful or interesting comments coming from this , much less the story itself .
And I do n't mean that in any sort of disrespectful way .
This just seems more suited to the " idle " section for its absurdity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just can't see any insightful or interesting comments coming from this, much less the story itself.
And I don't mean that in any sort of disrespectful way.
This just seems more suited to the "idle" section for its absurdity.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021828</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue.  They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around.  Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text.  Anybody?  Reply here.</p></div><p>I believe tesseract can do that; however Adobe Acrobat (full version) does this very well with PDF's</p><p>Anybody else have any suggestions -- it's been a few years since I had anything to do with document proc</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue .
They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around .
Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text .
Anybody ? Reply here.I believe tesseract can do that ; however Adobe Acrobat ( full version ) does this very well with PDF'sAnybody else have any suggestions -- it 's been a few years since I had anything to do with document proc</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue.
They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around.
Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text.
Anybody?  Reply here.I believe tesseract can do that; however Adobe Acrobat (full version) does this very well with PDF'sAnybody else have any suggestions -- it's been a few years since I had anything to do with document proc
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024634</id>
	<title>Bad laws/rules</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265309940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This probably stems from a law or rule that says that the USPTO isn't allowed to change any of the images that are sent to them.  (On the surface of things, a reasonable rule.)  When they started receiving faxes straight to images on a hard drive, someone decided that turning the image over is changing the image that was sent to them.  (Which... every computer person in the world that knows what they are talking about will tell you is true.  It may not affect the image much.  But it would change the image file.)  So... do the sensible thing and turn the fax over, losing your job because you broke the law (or rules)... or send a fax asking that the fax be resent in the correct orientation.  I know what I would do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This probably stems from a law or rule that says that the USPTO is n't allowed to change any of the images that are sent to them .
( On the surface of things , a reasonable rule .
) When they started receiving faxes straight to images on a hard drive , someone decided that turning the image over is changing the image that was sent to them .
( Which... every computer person in the world that knows what they are talking about will tell you is true .
It may not affect the image much .
But it would change the image file .
) So... do the sensible thing and turn the fax over , losing your job because you broke the law ( or rules ) ... or send a fax asking that the fax be resent in the correct orientation .
I know what I would do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This probably stems from a law or rule that says that the USPTO isn't allowed to change any of the images that are sent to them.
(On the surface of things, a reasonable rule.
)  When they started receiving faxes straight to images on a hard drive, someone decided that turning the image over is changing the image that was sent to them.
(Which... every computer person in the world that knows what they are talking about will tell you is true.
It may not affect the image much.
But it would change the image file.
)  So... do the sensible thing and turn the fax over, losing your job because you broke the law (or rules)... or send a fax asking that the fax be resent in the correct orientation.
I know what I would do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022802</id>
	<title>Simple solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't a problem. Just fax everything four times rotated in different ways. Always works for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't a problem .
Just fax everything four times rotated in different ways .
Always works for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't a problem.
Just fax everything four times rotated in different ways.
Always works for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024120</id>
	<title>It's a great day to be a Patent Troll.</title>
	<author>trdrstv</author>
	<datestamp>1265307720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
Seriously, they get to dumpster dive and file all the discarded patents submitted "upside down" and claim them.

On another note, why aren't forms web based with an option to upload supporting documents and images ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , they get to dumpster dive and file all the discarded patents submitted " upside down " and claim them .
On another note , why are n't forms web based with an option to upload supporting documents and images ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Seriously, they get to dumpster dive and file all the discarded patents submitted "upside down" and claim them.
On another note, why aren't forms web based with an option to upload supporting documents and images ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021838</id>
	<title>Laurel and Hardy would Approve!</title>
	<author>steelyeyedmissileman</author>
	<datestamp>1265296740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow-- this reminds me of a great Laruel and Hardy sketch where Laurel throws half of his nails away because the head is on the wrong side.

Oh, I know!  They're not accepting the upside down ones because they must have been sent in from Australia!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow-- this reminds me of a great Laruel and Hardy sketch where Laurel throws half of his nails away because the head is on the wrong side .
Oh , I know !
They 're not accepting the upside down ones because they must have been sent in from Australia !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow-- this reminds me of a great Laruel and Hardy sketch where Laurel throws half of his nails away because the head is on the wrong side.
Oh, I know!
They're not accepting the upside down ones because they must have been sent in from Australia!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023050</id>
	<title>Re:In all seriousness...</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1265302620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not in this case.  Someone theorized that to the author of the original article in the discussion section there, and the author said:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>According to the people involved, that is not the case. The page was simply put in bottom side first. Otherwise, the response would have been that the received fax was blank.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not in this case .
Someone theorized that to the author of the original article in the discussion section there , and the author said : According to the people involved , that is not the case .
The page was simply put in bottom side first .
Otherwise , the response would have been that the received fax was blank .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not in this case.
Someone theorized that to the author of the original article in the discussion section there, and the author said:According to the people involved, that is not the case.
The page was simply put in bottom side first.
Otherwise, the response would have been that the received fax was blank.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024408</id>
	<title>That'll learn 'em</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265308860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sort of reminds me of how I won't respond to a coworker's IM's unless they have correct subject-verb agreement.  Once we have that down, we'll move on to punctuation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sort of reminds me of how I wo n't respond to a coworker 's IM 's unless they have correct subject-verb agreement .
Once we have that down , we 'll move on to punctuation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sort of reminds me of how I won't respond to a coworker's IM's unless they have correct subject-verb agreement.
Once we have that down, we'll move on to punctuation.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021678</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1265295900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>When your tax money is being used to pay for the phone call / ISP fees / time of the staff involved in informing the sender of the issue instead of rotating a piece of paper 180 degrees in their hand, yes.<br> <br>Yes I do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When your tax money is being used to pay for the phone call / ISP fees / time of the staff involved in informing the sender of the issue instead of rotating a piece of paper 180 degrees in their hand , yes .
Yes I do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When your tax money is being used to pay for the phone call / ISP fees / time of the staff involved in informing the sender of the issue instead of rotating a piece of paper 180 degrees in their hand, yes.
Yes I do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022292</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>box4831</author>
	<datestamp>1265298900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I nominate this post for 'Best Post of 2010.'<br> <br>  - Internet Post Nomination Committee</htmltext>
<tokenext>I nominate this post for 'Best Post of 2010 .
' - Internet Post Nomination Committee</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I nominate this post for 'Best Post of 2010.
'   - Internet Post Nomination Committee</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023680</id>
	<title>Re:Family Guy</title>
	<author>kalirion</author>
	<datestamp>1265305440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Trucker #1: You got chocolate in my peanutbutter!<br>Trucker #2: You got peanutbutter in my chocolate!<br>Police Officer: Officer Reeses here. What seems to be the problem?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Trucker # 1 : You got chocolate in my peanutbutter ! Trucker # 2 : You got peanutbutter in my chocolate ! Police Officer : Officer Reeses here .
What seems to be the problem ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trucker #1: You got chocolate in my peanutbutter!Trucker #2: You got peanutbutter in my chocolate!Police Officer: Officer Reeses here.
What seems to be the problem?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021512</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023018</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>BradleyAndersen</author>
	<datestamp>1265302500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is funny.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is funny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is funny.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022782</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Idiot!  If \_over\_ half of the nails had the points on the wrong end you had the box turned around.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Idiot !
If \ _over \ _ half of the nails had the points on the wrong end you had the box turned around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Idiot!
If \_over\_ half of the nails had the points on the wrong end you had the box turned around.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022648</id>
	<title>Yeah ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265300700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... and this is the crowd we want running health care? Just imagine<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... your claim for $100,000 for that emergency heart surgery has been denied because the forms were faxed to us upside down. Of course the notice that you owe $100,000 will arrive 3 months later so that even if you are able to send it in right-side-up to get it approved, interest and penalties will apply (see IRS regulations for many examples of this).</htmltext>
<tokenext>... and this is the crowd we want running health care ?
Just imagine ... your claim for $ 100,000 for that emergency heart surgery has been denied because the forms were faxed to us upside down .
Of course the notice that you owe $ 100,000 will arrive 3 months later so that even if you are able to send it in right-side-up to get it approved , interest and penalties will apply ( see IRS regulations for many examples of this ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... and this is the crowd we want running health care?
Just imagine ... your claim for $100,000 for that emergency heart surgery has been denied because the forms were faxed to us upside down.
Of course the notice that you owe $100,000 will arrive 3 months later so that even if you are able to send it in right-side-up to get it approved, interest and penalties will apply (see IRS regulations for many examples of this).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023704</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265305620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just send every single tax filing both ways. The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected. <b>Twice the work for the government.</b></p> </div><p>*sigh* Let me guess: You're also the sort of guy who'll turn around and start bitching about how taxes are so "high" and assert that the pencil pushers don't have anything to do, right?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just send every single tax filing both ways .
The right one gets filed , and wrong one gets rejected .
Twice the work for the government .
* sigh * Let me guess : You 're also the sort of guy who 'll turn around and start bitching about how taxes are so " high " and assert that the pencil pushers do n't have anything to do , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just send every single tax filing both ways.
The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected.
Twice the work for the government.
*sigh* Let me guess: You're also the sort of guy who'll turn around and start bitching about how taxes are so "high" and assert that the pencil pushers don't have anything to do, right?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023364</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>qc\_dk</author>
	<datestamp>1265304000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure that you were no where near as disappointed as me when I bought nails and discovered some weird tiny metal pencil looking thing. There I was looking forward to some keratin based fun.</p><p>And, when I complained to the management some large rather brusque men took me away to a rubber cell, but I get Internet so it's not all bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure that you were no where near as disappointed as me when I bought nails and discovered some weird tiny metal pencil looking thing .
There I was looking forward to some keratin based fun.And , when I complained to the management some large rather brusque men took me away to a rubber cell , but I get Internet so it 's not all bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure that you were no where near as disappointed as me when I bought nails and discovered some weird tiny metal pencil looking thing.
There I was looking forward to some keratin based fun.And, when I complained to the management some large rather brusque men took me away to a rubber cell, but I get Internet so it's not all bad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023166</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1265303160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm supposed to feel outrage because a government office wants to save our tax money by requiring people (lawyers) too stupid to use a fax machine to correct their own mistakes?</p></div><p>Those lawyers are also citizens (surprise, huh?), as well as people they represent. And they also pay taxes, quite possibly more than you and me do.</p><p>This really has nothing to do with patents specifically. This is just a case of service that is supposed to be rendered by the government (and only by it - you cannot go elsewhere), being done inefficiently. Substitute USPTO with IRS, and "patent application" with "tax return", and it would still be the same issue, except that you'd be all up in arms about it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm supposed to feel outrage because a government office wants to save our tax money by requiring people ( lawyers ) too stupid to use a fax machine to correct their own mistakes ? Those lawyers are also citizens ( surprise , huh ?
) , as well as people they represent .
And they also pay taxes , quite possibly more than you and me do.This really has nothing to do with patents specifically .
This is just a case of service that is supposed to be rendered by the government ( and only by it - you can not go elsewhere ) , being done inefficiently .
Substitute USPTO with IRS , and " patent application " with " tax return " , and it would still be the same issue , except that you 'd be all up in arms about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm supposed to feel outrage because a government office wants to save our tax money by requiring people (lawyers) too stupid to use a fax machine to correct their own mistakes?Those lawyers are also citizens (surprise, huh?
), as well as people they represent.
And they also pay taxes, quite possibly more than you and me do.This really has nothing to do with patents specifically.
This is just a case of service that is supposed to be rendered by the government (and only by it - you cannot go elsewhere), being done inefficiently.
Substitute USPTO with IRS, and "patent application" with "tax return", and it would still be the same issue, except that you'd be all up in arms about it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026766</id>
	<title>Re:My Personal War:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265277060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uh oh...I've been doing that, too.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh oh...I 've been doing that , too .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh oh...I've been doing that, too.
:(</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022078</id>
	<title>Wrong Question</title>
	<author>Theaetetus</author>
	<datestamp>1265297880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rather than asking why some employee of the USPTO can't flip the scanned faxes in Adobe or some other PDF viewer at *our* expense, we should be asking why we aren't blaming the $500/hour patent attorney who screwed up his filings and who (and not his client) should absorb the cost of refiling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rather than asking why some employee of the USPTO ca n't flip the scanned faxes in Adobe or some other PDF viewer at * our * expense , we should be asking why we are n't blaming the $ 500/hour patent attorney who screwed up his filings and who ( and not his client ) should absorb the cost of refiling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rather than asking why some employee of the USPTO can't flip the scanned faxes in Adobe or some other PDF viewer at *our* expense, we should be asking why we aren't blaming the $500/hour patent attorney who screwed up his filings and who (and not his client) should absorb the cost of refiling.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31029312</id>
	<title>I'm from Australia, You Insensitive Clod!!</title>
	<author>billstewart</author>
	<datestamp>1265290680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is just a plot to keep our friends from Down Under from patenting anything in the US.   And that goes for their neighbors with the sheep and Kiwi fruits as well...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just a plot to keep our friends from Down Under from patenting anything in the US .
And that goes for their neighbors with the sheep and Kiwi fruits as well.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just a plot to keep our friends from Down Under from patenting anything in the US.
And that goes for their neighbors with the sheep and Kiwi fruits as well...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021880</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm not sure why you would want to send your tax papers to the US Patent Office.</p></div><p>Three times the work!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure why you would want to send your tax papers to the US Patent Office.Three times the work !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure why you would want to send your tax papers to the US Patent Office.Three times the work!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021522</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31028884</id>
	<title>Re:My Personal War:</title>
	<author>mrmeval</author>
	<datestamp>1265287800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just use faxattax and send them an infinite length black page. It won't be upside down now will it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just use faxattax and send them an infinite length black page .
It wo n't be upside down now will it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just use faxattax and send them an infinite length black page.
It won't be upside down now will it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022712</id>
	<title>How about Applicant's do things correctly?</title>
	<author>Skull\_Leader</author>
	<datestamp>1265300940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The funny thing is that if this were about the IRS, no one would think twice. Why? Because they do not accept things done incorrectly. Now this is a generalization... but from the inside I can tell you we get non-stop garbage from applicants/attorneys. No matter how clear the office makes things, no matter how many times an applicant sends in things done incorrectly and are corrected by the examiner, they still continue to do it. This wastes time, energy, and resources. Why do we have to do an attorney's job for them? (and actually that brings up another point... they pass off a lot of their work to assistants, clerks, and admin staff who screw it but between them and us) If it were up to me, I would automatically reject any application that does not meet proper application filing criteria the first time. On the flip side, I would make those criteria as clear as day and published online not more than one level deep off the main page.

Now, I will also say this: before anyone here can bash the PTO, you need to have worked here, because only then can you understand how things really are. A majority of us here work very hard, care about doing a good job, and want to help make the system work. The fact is that it is hard to do this job *truly* well, and keep up morale when we fight many of the things we do on a daily basis. The list is huge, and I won't go into it here... but trust me, for 99\% of it, it is not the examiners who muck up the works.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The funny thing is that if this were about the IRS , no one would think twice .
Why ? Because they do not accept things done incorrectly .
Now this is a generalization... but from the inside I can tell you we get non-stop garbage from applicants/attorneys .
No matter how clear the office makes things , no matter how many times an applicant sends in things done incorrectly and are corrected by the examiner , they still continue to do it .
This wastes time , energy , and resources .
Why do we have to do an attorney 's job for them ?
( and actually that brings up another point... they pass off a lot of their work to assistants , clerks , and admin staff who screw it but between them and us ) If it were up to me , I would automatically reject any application that does not meet proper application filing criteria the first time .
On the flip side , I would make those criteria as clear as day and published online not more than one level deep off the main page .
Now , I will also say this : before anyone here can bash the PTO , you need to have worked here , because only then can you understand how things really are .
A majority of us here work very hard , care about doing a good job , and want to help make the system work .
The fact is that it is hard to do this job * truly * well , and keep up morale when we fight many of the things we do on a daily basis .
The list is huge , and I wo n't go into it here... but trust me , for 99 \ % of it , it is not the examiners who muck up the works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The funny thing is that if this were about the IRS, no one would think twice.
Why? Because they do not accept things done incorrectly.
Now this is a generalization... but from the inside I can tell you we get non-stop garbage from applicants/attorneys.
No matter how clear the office makes things, no matter how many times an applicant sends in things done incorrectly and are corrected by the examiner, they still continue to do it.
This wastes time, energy, and resources.
Why do we have to do an attorney's job for them?
(and actually that brings up another point... they pass off a lot of their work to assistants, clerks, and admin staff who screw it but between them and us) If it were up to me, I would automatically reject any application that does not meet proper application filing criteria the first time.
On the flip side, I would make those criteria as clear as day and published online not more than one level deep off the main page.
Now, I will also say this: before anyone here can bash the PTO, you need to have worked here, because only then can you understand how things really are.
A majority of us here work very hard, care about doing a good job, and want to help make the system work.
The fact is that it is hard to do this job *truly* well, and keep up morale when we fight many of the things we do on a daily basis.
The list is huge, and I won't go into it here... but trust me, for 99\% of it, it is not the examiners who muck up the works.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025218</id>
	<title>You keep using that word.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265312580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Inconceivable!</p></div><p>I do not think it means what you think it means.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Inconceivable ! I do not think it means what you think it means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Inconceivable!I do not think it means what you think it means.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022792</id>
	<title>Re:Is it patented? no, seriously</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wouldn't they be covered under sovereign immunity, the doctrine that the government is free to use any patent for internal use?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't they be covered under sovereign immunity , the doctrine that the government is free to use any patent for internal use ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't they be covered under sovereign immunity, the doctrine that the government is free to use any patent for internal use?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021752</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021618</id>
	<title>Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265295480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reading the FA, it could be that the faxer sent the fax the wrong way up/ down - so the office received a blank fax.</p><p>This would seem a perfectly valid reason to reject the submission</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reading the FA , it could be that the faxer sent the fax the wrong way up/ down - so the office received a blank fax.This would seem a perfectly valid reason to reject the submission</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reading the FA, it could be that the faxer sent the fax the wrong way up/ down - so the office received a blank fax.This would seem a perfectly valid reason to reject the submission</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31028180</id>
	<title>Re:How can they read them anyway?</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1265284020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>With their heads jammed so far up their asses?</i></p><p>Well obviously, there's just enough room left in their collective asses to fit the fax machines in there too !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With their heads jammed so far up their asses ? Well obviously , there 's just enough room left in their collective asses to fit the fax machines in there too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With their heads jammed so far up their asses?Well obviously, there's just enough room left in their collective asses to fit the fax machines in there too !</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023876</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>TangoMargarine</author>
	<datestamp>1265306580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah! Waste our tax dollars! That'll really fuck 'em!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah !
Waste our tax dollars !
That 'll really fuck 'em !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah!
Waste our tax dollars!
That'll really fuck 'em!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022404</id>
	<title>Re:They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1265299560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if they pre-rotate the paper by 180 degrees instead? Would that violate the patent?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if they pre-rotate the paper by 180 degrees instead ?
Would that violate the patent ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if they pre-rotate the paper by 180 degrees instead?
Would that violate the patent?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021512</id>
	<title>Family Guy</title>
	<author>Wolvenhaven</author>
	<datestamp>1265294940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Albert Einstein: And what is it you want to patent, Herr Smith?
<br>
Smith: I call it "Smith's Theory of Relativity."
<br>
Albert Einstein: Hey, look at this.
<br>
Smith: What?
<br>
*SMASH SMASH SMASH*
<br>
*scribbles out Smith for Einstein*
<br>
Albert Einstein: heh heh heh</htmltext>
<tokenext>Albert Einstein : And what is it you want to patent , Herr Smith ?
Smith : I call it " Smith 's Theory of Relativity .
" Albert Einstein : Hey , look at this .
Smith : What ?
* SMASH SMASH SMASH * * scribbles out Smith for Einstein * Albert Einstein : heh heh heh</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Albert Einstein: And what is it you want to patent, Herr Smith?
Smith: I call it "Smith's Theory of Relativity.
"

Albert Einstein: Hey, look at this.
Smith: What?
*SMASH SMASH SMASH*

*scribbles out Smith for Einstein*

Albert Einstein: heh heh heh</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31030186</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody should be using a fax machine these days, every modern machine out there can do scan to email<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..... just don't accept faxes, give them an email address.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody should be using a fax machine these days , every modern machine out there can do scan to email ..... just do n't accept faxes , give them an email address .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody should be using a fax machine these days, every modern machine out there can do scan to email ..... just don't accept faxes, give them an email address.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021934</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>DevConcepts</author>
	<datestamp>1265297220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can't mod up and it's a good thing I have a kbd condom</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't mod up and it 's a good thing I have a kbd condom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't mod up and it's a good thing I have a kbd condom</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021454</id>
	<title>If only...</title>
	<author>daha</author>
	<datestamp>1265294640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If only there were some unique invention they could license that was capable of such a process as rotating a piece of paper or an electronic image...  Excuse me, I feel an urgent need to contact a patent attorney.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If only there were some unique invention they could license that was capable of such a process as rotating a piece of paper or an electronic image... Excuse me , I feel an urgent need to contact a patent attorney .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only there were some unique invention they could license that was capable of such a process as rotating a piece of paper or an electronic image...  Excuse me, I feel an urgent need to contact a patent attorney.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023576</id>
	<title>Re:My Personal War:</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1265304960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason they have this requirement is that they don't actually print faxes, so they can't merely turn the paper. They have an all-electronic system. And this system lacks a rotate feature (probably due to patent issues).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason they have this requirement is that they do n't actually print faxes , so they ca n't merely turn the paper .
They have an all-electronic system .
And this system lacks a rotate feature ( probably due to patent issues ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason they have this requirement is that they don't actually print faxes, so they can't merely turn the paper.
They have an all-electronic system.
And this system lacks a rotate feature (probably due to patent issues).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023260</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265303520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps there is a software or hardware patent on detecting upside-down faxes and automatically rotating them 180 degrees if they are upside-down.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps there is a software or hardware patent on detecting upside-down faxes and automatically rotating them 180 degrees if they are upside-down .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps there is a software or hardware patent on detecting upside-down faxes and automatically rotating them 180 degrees if they are upside-down.
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021522</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265294940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just send every single tax filing both ways. The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected. Twice the work for the government.</p></div><p>I'm not sure why you would want to send your tax papers to the US Patent Office.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just send every single tax filing both ways .
The right one gets filed , and wrong one gets rejected .
Twice the work for the government.I 'm not sure why you would want to send your tax papers to the US Patent Office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just send every single tax filing both ways.
The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected.
Twice the work for the government.I'm not sure why you would want to send your tax papers to the US Patent Office.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026214</id>
	<title>Re:professionals</title>
	<author>BeanThere</author>
	<datestamp>1265274780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's what bureaucrats do, it's in effect precisely their task to create unnecessary work for bureaucrats (at taxpayer expense); if they did their jobs efficiently, they'd be out of work, and the more inefficiently they do their jobs, the bigger the budget they get and the more people their department heads get to hire. This is evident in just about every government organisation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what bureaucrats do , it 's in effect precisely their task to create unnecessary work for bureaucrats ( at taxpayer expense ) ; if they did their jobs efficiently , they 'd be out of work , and the more inefficiently they do their jobs , the bigger the budget they get and the more people their department heads get to hire .
This is evident in just about every government organisation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what bureaucrats do, it's in effect precisely their task to create unnecessary work for bureaucrats (at taxpayer expense); if they did their jobs efficiently, they'd be out of work, and the more inefficiently they do their jobs, the bigger the budget they get and the more people their department heads get to hire.
This is evident in just about every government organisation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021780</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023562</id>
	<title>Re:My Personal War:</title>
	<author>Larry Lightbulb</author>
	<datestamp>1265304900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Damn - I've been sneaking in and rotating the fax machines upside down.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn - I 've been sneaking in and rotating the fax machines upside down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn - I've been sneaking in and rotating the fax machines upside down.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022104</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1265298000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Problem is that would require hiring competent staff at the USPTO.   That is expensive.  Therefore to keep the incompetent idiots happy, all upside down things will be thrown away.   I'm sneaking in tonight and running a imagemajick script to rotate every image file it finds upside down on every server they have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Problem is that would require hiring competent staff at the USPTO .
That is expensive .
Therefore to keep the incompetent idiots happy , all upside down things will be thrown away .
I 'm sneaking in tonight and running a imagemajick script to rotate every image file it finds upside down on every server they have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Problem is that would require hiring competent staff at the USPTO.
That is expensive.
Therefore to keep the incompetent idiots happy, all upside down things will be thrown away.
I'm sneaking in tonight and running a imagemajick script to rotate every image file it finds upside down on every server they have.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021726</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021944</id>
	<title>low Expectations</title>
	<author>codeAlDente</author>
	<datestamp>1265297220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A a recent job fair, the patent office recruiter picked his nose the whole time he was talking to me. And he was really digging in there really deep - not a Seinfeld-style scratch. Even for a good salary, I didn't even consider applying. I'm not surprised that the people who work there can't rotate a document.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A a recent job fair , the patent office recruiter picked his nose the whole time he was talking to me .
And he was really digging in there really deep - not a Seinfeld-style scratch .
Even for a good salary , I did n't even consider applying .
I 'm not surprised that the people who work there ca n't rotate a document .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A a recent job fair, the patent office recruiter picked his nose the whole time he was talking to me.
And he was really digging in there really deep - not a Seinfeld-style scratch.
Even for a good salary, I didn't even consider applying.
I'm not surprised that the people who work there can't rotate a document.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023046</id>
	<title>What..</title>
	<author>scoopr</author>
	<datestamp>1265302620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What... are these "fax"-machines? I thought it was customary to explain arcane, antique or cutting-edge terms in the summary.

I think I heard once, that there is one of these machines hidden in one dark corner of our office, mainly used by the office troll to send out pranks to rivaling companies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What... are these " fax " -machines ?
I thought it was customary to explain arcane , antique or cutting-edge terms in the summary .
I think I heard once , that there is one of these machines hidden in one dark corner of our office , mainly used by the office troll to send out pranks to rivaling companies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What... are these "fax"-machines?
I thought it was customary to explain arcane, antique or cutting-edge terms in the summary.
I think I heard once, that there is one of these machines hidden in one dark corner of our office, mainly used by the office troll to send out pranks to rivaling companies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025562</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>eth1</author>
	<datestamp>1265314500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, no... just send it in a way that there IS no "upside down." Turn it into a binary format and fax a white page for 0 and a solid black one for a 1.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , no... just send it in a way that there IS no " upside down .
" Turn it into a binary format and fax a white page for 0 and a solid black one for a 1 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, no... just send it in a way that there IS no "upside down.
" Turn it into a binary format and fax a white page for 0 and a solid black one for a 1.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022768</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>khendron</author>
	<datestamp>1265301240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They were probably Australian nails. Got mixed in with the shipment by accident.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They were probably Australian nails .
Got mixed in with the shipment by accident .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They were probably Australian nails.
Got mixed in with the shipment by accident.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022198</id>
	<title>Faxing is antiquated</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265298420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's sad that faxes are even used. They should standardize on an XML format or PDF format document to be submitted electronically.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's sad that faxes are even used .
They should standardize on an XML format or PDF format document to be submitted electronically .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's sad that faxes are even used.
They should standardize on an XML format or PDF format document to be submitted electronically.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026828</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>pwnies</author>
	<datestamp>1265277300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read it as the tax office in the summary as well. I think fax being thrown out so many times made my mind assume that one of them stated "tax".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read it as the tax office in the summary as well .
I think fax being thrown out so many times made my mind assume that one of them stated " tax " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read it as the tax office in the summary as well.
I think fax being thrown out so many times made my mind assume that one of them stated "tax".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021522</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022344</id>
	<title>Well, they have to draw the line SOMEWHERE</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1265299260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They accept everything else, written by monkeys or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They accept everything else , written by monkeys or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They accept everything else, written by monkeys or not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025822</id>
	<title>Re:umop apisdn</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1265316360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You insensitive clod! I was trying to submit a patent application for "anumop apisdn".
</p><p>One unique feature of this portable device will be the power switch, which will be labeled "ON|NO".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You insensitive clod !
I was trying to submit a patent application for " anumop apisdn " .
One unique feature of this portable device will be the power switch , which will be labeled " ON | NO " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You insensitive clod!
I was trying to submit a patent application for "anumop apisdn".
One unique feature of this portable device will be the power switch, which will be labeled "ON|NO".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021832</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026780</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265277120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know how you feel. Seems like every time I open the silverware drawer, a full half of the spoons are concave on the wrong side!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know how you feel .
Seems like every time I open the silverware drawer , a full half of the spoons are concave on the wrong side !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know how you feel.
Seems like every time I open the silverware drawer, a full half of the spoons are concave on the wrong side!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024126</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1265307720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Patent Application 1994934772299</p><p>Abstract</p><p>This document describes a procedure hereby known as "reverse faxing". In this procedure, the paperwork workload is reduced significantly by only acknowledging reverse faxed files and filing all others circularly.</p><p>In all seriousness, I suspect they do it due to how they figured out to feed the pre-printed forms into the fax machine. For some reason, nobody realized they could turn them around.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Patent Application 1994934772299AbstractThis document describes a procedure hereby known as " reverse faxing " .
In this procedure , the paperwork workload is reduced significantly by only acknowledging reverse faxed files and filing all others circularly.In all seriousness , I suspect they do it due to how they figured out to feed the pre-printed forms into the fax machine .
For some reason , nobody realized they could turn them around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Patent Application 1994934772299AbstractThis document describes a procedure hereby known as "reverse faxing".
In this procedure, the paperwork workload is reduced significantly by only acknowledging reverse faxed files and filing all others circularly.In all seriousness, I suspect they do it due to how they figured out to feed the pre-printed forms into the fax machine.
For some reason, nobody realized they could turn them around.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026120</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>ilec\_geek</author>
	<datestamp>1265274480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My machine is out of paper.  Can you fax me a few blank pages until I can buy some more?</htmltext>
<tokenext>My machine is out of paper .
Can you fax me a few blank pages until I can buy some more ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My machine is out of paper.
Can you fax me a few blank pages until I can buy some more?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021862</id>
	<title>what do you want to bet</title>
	<author>Darth Sdlavrot</author>
	<datestamp>1265296860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They have some kind of automated fax-to-OCR conversion and the OCR doesn't work well on upside-down docs.</p><p>Dibs on the patent for adding a converter that rotates the image and retries when the OCR fails.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They have some kind of automated fax-to-OCR conversion and the OCR does n't work well on upside-down docs.Dibs on the patent for adding a converter that rotates the image and retries when the OCR fails .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have some kind of automated fax-to-OCR conversion and the OCR doesn't work well on upside-down docs.Dibs on the patent for adding a converter that rotates the image and retries when the OCR fails.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021530</id>
	<title>A possible explanation:</title>
	<author>Mashdar</author>
	<datestamp>1265295000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>My guess is that they don't print them any more, and it was a PITA to turn your entire monitor upside down!</htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is that they do n't print them any more , and it was a PITA to turn your entire monitor upside down !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is that they don't print them any more, and it was a PITA to turn your entire monitor upside down!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021724</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Irfanview can rotate image files in batch mode.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Irfanview can rotate image files in batch mode .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Irfanview can rotate image files in batch mode.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024826</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265310840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> I know people that work for the USPTO, their response is why are you filing a Patent by FAX?<br>
&nbsp; They have online submissions, why would you print and then fax such an important document.</p><p>Maybe the submitter need to get up-to-date!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know people that work for the USPTO , their response is why are you filing a Patent by FAX ?
  They have online submissions , why would you print and then fax such an important document.Maybe the submitter need to get up-to-date !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I know people that work for the USPTO, their response is why are you filing a Patent by FAX?
  They have online submissions, why would you print and then fax such an important document.Maybe the submitter need to get up-to-date!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023834</id>
	<title>Re:This really should be filedd undeer "idle..</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1265306340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry, your posting has been rejected because you inverted your 'o's, and your periods. Also, using upside down 'p's for 'd's is also highly discouraged. Using upside down 'q's for 'b's, although not recommended, is deemed acceptable due to the current shortage. Please fix these problems, and resubmit your comment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , your posting has been rejected because you inverted your 'o 's , and your periods .
Also , using upside down 'p 's for 'd's is also highly discouraged .
Using upside down 'q 's for 'b 's , although not recommended , is deemed acceptable due to the current shortage .
Please fix these problems , and resubmit your comment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, your posting has been rejected because you inverted your 'o's, and your periods.
Also, using upside down 'p's for 'd's is also highly discouraged.
Using upside down 'q's for 'b's, although not recommended, is deemed acceptable due to the current shortage.
Please fix these problems, and resubmit your comment.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021568</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022200</id>
	<title>Re:My Personal War:</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1265298420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, be glad they at least take faxes now. Until last year, they still required patent applicants to use either a "Western Union Telegram" or a "Courier boy, properly dressed in gentlemanly attire."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , be glad they at least take faxes now .
Until last year , they still required patent applicants to use either a " Western Union Telegram " or a " Courier boy , properly dressed in gentlemanly attire .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, be glad they at least take faxes now.
Until last year, they still required patent applicants to use either a "Western Union Telegram" or a "Courier boy, properly dressed in gentlemanly attire.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026542</id>
	<title>This is offtopic but...</title>
	<author>Chicken\_Kickers</author>
	<datestamp>1265276100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>why does the USPTO official seal have a bald eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch while appearing to ready itself to poop on the American Gladiator shield? I mean, these sort of imagery should be more appropriate for say the Airborne corps or the Airforce, not some deskbound attorneys who can't rotate their faxes 180 degrees. And why is the bald eagle's head awkwardly turned so that it looks like it is trying to bite fleas from under its wings? A visit to Wikipedia shed no light on this matter. Anyone here who is versed in heraldy and could explain this strange seal?</htmltext>
<tokenext>why does the USPTO official seal have a bald eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch while appearing to ready itself to poop on the American Gladiator shield ?
I mean , these sort of imagery should be more appropriate for say the Airborne corps or the Airforce , not some deskbound attorneys who ca n't rotate their faxes 180 degrees .
And why is the bald eagle 's head awkwardly turned so that it looks like it is trying to bite fleas from under its wings ?
A visit to Wikipedia shed no light on this matter .
Anyone here who is versed in heraldy and could explain this strange seal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why does the USPTO official seal have a bald eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch while appearing to ready itself to poop on the American Gladiator shield?
I mean, these sort of imagery should be more appropriate for say the Airborne corps or the Airforce, not some deskbound attorneys who can't rotate their faxes 180 degrees.
And why is the bald eagle's head awkwardly turned so that it looks like it is trying to bite fleas from under its wings?
A visit to Wikipedia shed no light on this matter.
Anyone here who is versed in heraldy and could explain this strange seal?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31035626</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1265391480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Reading the FA, it could be that the faxer sent the fax the wrong way up/ down - so the office received a blank fax.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
If so, that would achieve the remarkable effect of making the whole story <strong>even more fucking pointless</strong> than it was already.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reading the FA , it could be that the faxer sent the fax the wrong way up/ down - so the office received a blank fax .
If so , that would achieve the remarkable effect of making the whole story even more fucking pointless than it was already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reading the FA, it could be that the faxer sent the fax the wrong way up/ down - so the office received a blank fax.
If so, that would achieve the remarkable effect of making the whole story even more fucking pointless than it was already.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021618</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021790</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue.  They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around.  Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text.  Anybody?  Reply here.</p></div><p>Run gocr on the document (run 1), rotate it 180 degrees and run gocr on that (run 2).</p><p>If (no of dictionary words(run 2) &gt; no of dictionary words(run 1)) {<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; doc = rotated doc;<br>}</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue .
They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around .
Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text .
Anybody ? Reply here.Run gocr on the document ( run 1 ) , rotate it 180 degrees and run gocr on that ( run 2 ) .If ( no of dictionary words ( run 2 ) &gt; no of dictionary words ( run 1 ) ) {         doc = rotated doc ; }</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue.
They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around.
Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text.
Anybody?  Reply here.Run gocr on the document (run 1), rotate it 180 degrees and run gocr on that (run 2).If (no of dictionary words(run 2) &gt; no of dictionary words(run 1)) {
        doc = rotated doc;}
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023858</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Jakester2K</author>
	<datestamp>1265306520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's very good.<br> <br>
Reminds me of story my girlfriend - who's in computer tech support - told me about her supervisor who, when asked by a user about seeing the other side of a PDF made from scanning a two-sided page, told the user, in perfect deadpan, to walk around their desk and look at the back of their (LCD) monitor.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's very good .
Reminds me of story my girlfriend - who 's in computer tech support - told me about her supervisor who , when asked by a user about seeing the other side of a PDF made from scanning a two-sided page , told the user , in perfect deadpan , to walk around their desk and look at the back of their ( LCD ) monitor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's very good.
Reminds me of story my girlfriend - who's in computer tech support - told me about her supervisor who, when asked by a user about seeing the other side of a PDF made from scanning a two-sided page, told the user, in perfect deadpan, to walk around their desk and look at the back of their (LCD) monitor.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31062308</id>
	<title>Re:simple reason.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265654340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If checking where the stamp is is a significant part of checking the validity of a patent, we'd have a very adequate explanation for the quality of work the patent offices all over the world deliver.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If checking where the stamp is is a significant part of checking the validity of a patent , we 'd have a very adequate explanation for the quality of work the patent offices all over the world deliver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If checking where the stamp is is a significant part of checking the validity of a patent, we'd have a very adequate explanation for the quality of work the patent offices all over the world deliver.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024236</id>
	<title>Re:simple reason.</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1265308260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the issue is #1, then as someone else pointed out, it wouldn't be unthinkable to use OCR to detect which direction is up.  I'd imagine that with today's computing power, if you can assume that the paperwork is being filed in typewritten English in a reasonable font, it'd be trivial to detect which direction was up.
</p><p>If it's #2 or #3, then maybe they should consider building a system where a computer receives the fax, detects right-side-up, runs OCR, and stores it in a PDF.  They can still print it if they want once that's all done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the issue is # 1 , then as someone else pointed out , it would n't be unthinkable to use OCR to detect which direction is up .
I 'd imagine that with today 's computing power , if you can assume that the paperwork is being filed in typewritten English in a reasonable font , it 'd be trivial to detect which direction was up .
If it 's # 2 or # 3 , then maybe they should consider building a system where a computer receives the fax , detects right-side-up , runs OCR , and stores it in a PDF .
They can still print it if they want once that 's all done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the issue is #1, then as someone else pointed out, it wouldn't be unthinkable to use OCR to detect which direction is up.
I'd imagine that with today's computing power, if you can assume that the paperwork is being filed in typewritten English in a reasonable font, it'd be trivial to detect which direction was up.
If it's #2 or #3, then maybe they should consider building a system where a computer receives the fax, detects right-side-up, runs OCR, and stores it in a PDF.
They can still print it if they want once that's all done.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021494</id>
	<title>So if I "black fax" them,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265294820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>be sure to put the black page right side up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>be sure to put the black page right side up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>be sure to put the black page right side up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022534</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265300160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why was that moded 'Funny'?</p><p>The other day, I went to Home Depot and bought nails. I get home, open the box, and what do I see?! Over half - HALF- of the fucking nails have the points on the wrong end!</p><p>Inconceivable!</p></div><p>They were meant for the opposite wall you goof!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why was that moded 'Funny ' ? The other day , I went to Home Depot and bought nails .
I get home , open the box , and what do I see ? !
Over half - HALF- of the fucking nails have the points on the wrong end ! Inconceivable ! They were meant for the opposite wall you goof !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why was that moded 'Funny'?The other day, I went to Home Depot and bought nails.
I get home, open the box, and what do I see?!
Over half - HALF- of the fucking nails have the points on the wrong end!Inconceivable!They were meant for the opposite wall you goof!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022146</id>
	<title>Re:In all seriousness...</title>
	<author>Teun</author>
	<datestamp>1265298180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That was (almost) the first thing that cam to mind, but then how would they know, did this sheet have 'back side' written on it or how else did it differ from any other blank sheet?</htmltext>
<tokenext>That was ( almost ) the first thing that cam to mind , but then how would they know , did this sheet have 'back side ' written on it or how else did it differ from any other blank sheet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was (almost) the first thing that cam to mind, but then how would they know, did this sheet have 'back side' written on it or how else did it differ from any other blank sheet?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021574</id>
	<title>In all seriousness...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265295180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>But wait, if you send it upside down, won't it arrive blank?</htmltext>
<tokenext>But wait , if you send it upside down , wo n't it arrive blank ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But wait, if you send it upside down, won't it arrive blank?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When they buy a bag of M&amp;Ms do they throw away all the W, E and 3s too?</p></div><p>Why was that moded 'Funny'?</p><p>The other day, I went to Home Depot and bought nails. I get home, open the box, and what do I see?! Over half - HALF- of the fucking nails have the points on the wrong end!</p><p>Inconceivable!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When they buy a bag of M&amp;Ms do they throw away all the W , E and 3s too ? Why was that moded 'Funny ' ? The other day , I went to Home Depot and bought nails .
I get home , open the box , and what do I see ? !
Over half - HALF- of the fucking nails have the points on the wrong end ! Inconceivable !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When they buy a bag of M&amp;Ms do they throw away all the W, E and 3s too?Why was that moded 'Funny'?The other day, I went to Home Depot and bought nails.
I get home, open the box, and what do I see?!
Over half - HALF- of the fucking nails have the points on the wrong end!Inconceivable!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022530</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>Skreems</author>
	<datestamp>1265300160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm pretty sure that "upside down" in this case means "front to back". So the genius in the article faxed them a bunch of doodles and blank pages, and then posted their response online instead of fixing his own error. Unless the Patent Office is sitting on some technology that can reconstruct letters on the opposite side of a faxed page from trace shadows, this isn't nearly as stupid as you think.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure that " upside down " in this case means " front to back " .
So the genius in the article faxed them a bunch of doodles and blank pages , and then posted their response online instead of fixing his own error .
Unless the Patent Office is sitting on some technology that can reconstruct letters on the opposite side of a faxed page from trace shadows , this is n't nearly as stupid as you think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure that "upside down" in this case means "front to back".
So the genius in the article faxed them a bunch of doodles and blank pages, and then posted their response online instead of fixing his own error.
Unless the Patent Office is sitting on some technology that can reconstruct letters on the opposite side of a faxed page from trace shadows, this isn't nearly as stupid as you think.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024052</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265307360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Inconceivable!</p></div></blockquote><p>I do not think it means what you think it means.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Inconceivable ! I do not think it means what you think it means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Inconceivable!I do not think it means what you think it means.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021518</id>
	<title>Upside-down</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265294940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I fax all my patents upside down, and I've never had one turned down!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I fax all my patents upside down , and I 've never had one turned down !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I fax all my patents upside down, and I've never had one turned down!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31027312</id>
	<title>Re:They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>Xaduurv</author>
	<datestamp>1265279340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and don't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking. Unfortunately the "novel" method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees, making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.</p></div></blockquote><p>Of course, one would hope that the <b>Patent and Trademark office</b> would be smart enough to realize that a 1987 <b>patent</b> expired in 2007.</p></div><p>HA! Patent's don't EXPIRE any more!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and do n't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking .
Unfortunately the " novel " method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they 're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees , making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.Of course , one would hope that the Patent and Trademark office would be smart enough to realize that a 1987 patent expired in 2007.HA !
Patent 's do n't EXPIRE any more !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and don't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking.
Unfortunately the "novel" method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees, making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.Of course, one would hope that the Patent and Trademark office would be smart enough to realize that a 1987 patent expired in 2007.HA!
Patent's don't EXPIRE any more!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022266</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021598</id>
	<title>Cost of rotating faxes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265295360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe they can search through their patent datab^H^H^H^H^H files and find an innovation or two that might work more efficiently than faxes, but of course then they'd have to pay the licensing fees. Maybe they've issued a patent on rotating faxes 180 degrees, and don't want to pay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they can search through their patent datab ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H files and find an innovation or two that might work more efficiently than faxes , but of course then they 'd have to pay the licensing fees .
Maybe they 've issued a patent on rotating faxes 180 degrees , and do n't want to pay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they can search through their patent datab^H^H^H^H^H files and find an innovation or two that might work more efficiently than faxes, but of course then they'd have to pay the licensing fees.
Maybe they've issued a patent on rotating faxes 180 degrees, and don't want to pay.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022634</id>
	<title>Re:They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>ZachPruckowski</author>
	<datestamp>1265300580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're missing a way to circumvention that patent - flip the paper upside down, and then roll it 180 degrees around the semi-major axis.  Don't worry though, I'll be seeing a patent attorney about that one at lunch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're missing a way to circumvention that patent - flip the paper upside down , and then roll it 180 degrees around the semi-major axis .
Do n't worry though , I 'll be seeing a patent attorney about that one at lunch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're missing a way to circumvention that patent - flip the paper upside down, and then roll it 180 degrees around the semi-major axis.
Don't worry though, I'll be seeing a patent attorney about that one at lunch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31029242</id>
	<title>Re:My Personal War:</title>
	<author>riverat1</author>
	<datestamp>1265290260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the easy way is that the header information that the fax machine adds to the fax will have the opposite orientation from the body of the fax.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the easy way is that the header information that the fax machine adds to the fax will have the opposite orientation from the body of the fax .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the easy way is that the header information that the fax machine adds to the fax will have the opposite orientation from the body of the fax.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021926</id>
	<title>That's the trouble with them new-fangled doo-dads</title>
	<author>seniorcoder</author>
	<datestamp>1265297100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well gosh darn, I'm surprised they have started to use them fax machines.  I reckon it's still OK for me to continue to send it my applications by using smoke signals ain't it?  I'm wonderin' why the folks hereabouts didn't tell me they now use fax as I have just purchased one of them telex thingys.
<p>
Well I guess they use fax to promote the fact that they are the center of all innovation after all.
</p><p>
Perhaps I should submit a "rotator" device for a patent.  You takes the piece of paper in one rotator on the end of your arm.  Then, with the help of another rotator on the end of the other arm, you turns the piece of paper through 180 of them degrees.  Hot dang I'm on a winner with this one!  I hope I submit a patent first on this, but it's a chicken and egg thing.  What if I submit it the wrong way round?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well gosh darn , I 'm surprised they have started to use them fax machines .
I reckon it 's still OK for me to continue to send it my applications by using smoke signals ai n't it ?
I 'm wonderin ' why the folks hereabouts did n't tell me they now use fax as I have just purchased one of them telex thingys .
Well I guess they use fax to promote the fact that they are the center of all innovation after all .
Perhaps I should submit a " rotator " device for a patent .
You takes the piece of paper in one rotator on the end of your arm .
Then , with the help of another rotator on the end of the other arm , you turns the piece of paper through 180 of them degrees .
Hot dang I 'm on a winner with this one !
I hope I submit a patent first on this , but it 's a chicken and egg thing .
What if I submit it the wrong way round ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well gosh darn, I'm surprised they have started to use them fax machines.
I reckon it's still OK for me to continue to send it my applications by using smoke signals ain't it?
I'm wonderin' why the folks hereabouts didn't tell me they now use fax as I have just purchased one of them telex thingys.
Well I guess they use fax to promote the fact that they are the center of all innovation after all.
Perhaps I should submit a "rotator" device for a patent.
You takes the piece of paper in one rotator on the end of your arm.
Then, with the help of another rotator on the end of the other arm, you turns the piece of paper through 180 of them degrees.
Hot dang I'm on a winner with this one!
I hope I submit a patent first on this, but it's a chicken and egg thing.
What if I submit it the wrong way round?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</id>
	<title>Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265295420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue.  They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around.  Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text.  Anybody?  Reply here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue .
They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around .
Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text .
Anybody ? Reply here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue.
They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around.
Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text.
Anybody?  Reply here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023648</id>
	<title>I have a patent on upside down faxs</title>
	<author>strangeattraction</author>
	<datestamp>1265305320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A few years ago I applied for and receive a patent number 1905647384656 for "Inverting and sending printed material digitally over phone lines." Since the PTO has refused to pay me royalties ($.20 per page) they are legally bound not to process inverted fax documents. My next patent in the queue is on "Viewing printed material sent digitally over phone lines." This patent is pending but is likely to approved shortly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A few years ago I applied for and receive a patent number 1905647384656 for " Inverting and sending printed material digitally over phone lines .
" Since the PTO has refused to pay me royalties ( $ .20 per page ) they are legally bound not to process inverted fax documents .
My next patent in the queue is on " Viewing printed material sent digitally over phone lines .
" This patent is pending but is likely to approved shortly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few years ago I applied for and receive a patent number 1905647384656 for "Inverting and sending printed material digitally over phone lines.
" Since the PTO has refused to pay me royalties ($.20 per page) they are legally bound not to process inverted fax documents.
My next patent in the queue is on "Viewing printed material sent digitally over phone lines.
" This patent is pending but is likely to approved shortly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31028046</id>
	<title>Flipped, Upside down vs Face down</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265283240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe they meant that they were upside down as in "blank". It happens many times that someone doesn't know which way the written side faces when putting them in the fax.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they meant that they were upside down as in " blank " .
It happens many times that someone does n't know which way the written side faces when putting them in the fax .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they meant that they were upside down as in "blank".
It happens many times that someone doesn't know which way the written side faces when putting them in the fax.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024764</id>
	<title>Re:They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>CarlDenny</author>
	<datestamp>1265310480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ha!  Patents from 1987 have expired!</p><p>I'm hereby adding "flip it over horizontally, then flip it over vertically" as a business method for re-orienting upside down faxed to the public domain.</p><p>Suck it, the man.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ha !
Patents from 1987 have expired ! I 'm hereby adding " flip it over horizontally , then flip it over vertically " as a business method for re-orienting upside down faxed to the public domain.Suck it , the man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ha!
Patents from 1987 have expired!I'm hereby adding "flip it over horizontally, then flip it over vertically" as a business method for re-orienting upside down faxed to the public domain.Suck it, the man.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021528</id>
	<title>How can I get a mail room job there.</title>
	<author>TomTraynor</author>
	<datestamp>1265295000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would just 'love' to work there now.  Check each fax and for anything that is software turn the pages upside down and watch the fun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would just 'love ' to work there now .
Check each fax and for anything that is software turn the pages upside down and watch the fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would just 'love' to work there now.
Check each fax and for anything that is software turn the pages upside down and watch the fun.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023014</id>
	<title>Re:If only...</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1265302500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Already been patented<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... why do you think they can't accept upside-down faxes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Already been patented ... why do you think they ca n't accept upside-down faxes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Already been patented ... why do you think they can't accept upside-down faxes?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021454</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022736</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>dnahelicase</author>
	<datestamp>1265301060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, I already have faxed papers in in varying positions. Up, down, left, right, both in frontwards and backwards.  That's the idea I am trying to patent!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I already have faxed papers in in varying positions .
Up , down , left , right , both in frontwards and backwards .
That 's the idea I am trying to patent !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I already have faxed papers in in varying positions.
Up, down, left, right, both in frontwards and backwards.
That's the idea I am trying to patent!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022256</id>
	<title>Here's an idea:</title>
	<author>bytethese</author>
	<datestamp>1265298720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mail them a message back stating that their letter arrived upside down and could not be processed, and for the USPTO to please send another copy...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mail them a message back stating that their letter arrived upside down and could not be processed , and for the USPTO to please send another copy.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mail them a message back stating that their letter arrived upside down and could not be processed, and for the USPTO to please send another copy...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025374</id>
	<title>Better Idea</title>
	<author>Dahan</author>
	<datestamp>1265313540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just send every single tax filing both ways. The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected. Twice the work for the government.</p></div><p>Or just fax it correctly in the first place--it's not difficult. Face down, nine-edge first.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just send every single tax filing both ways .
The right one gets filed , and wrong one gets rejected .
Twice the work for the government.Or just fax it correctly in the first place--it 's not difficult .
Face down , nine-edge first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just send every single tax filing both ways.
The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected.
Twice the work for the government.Or just fax it correctly in the first place--it's not difficult.
Face down, nine-edge first.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021752</id>
	<title>Is it patented? no, seriously</title>
	<author>H4x0r Jim Duggan</author>
	<datestamp>1265296260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone's going to make this smart ass joke, but there's actually a serious question here.</p><p>The USPTO grants patents for utter nonsense.  Then, to maintain credibility, they have to abide by the law saying that all those nonsense things are illegal for 20 years.</p><p>If someone during a board meeting pointed out that rotating electronically received data communications was patented, the board would be required to decide to stop doing that (or license the patent, but maybe they can't, or maybe the patent holder said no).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone 's going to make this smart ass joke , but there 's actually a serious question here.The USPTO grants patents for utter nonsense .
Then , to maintain credibility , they have to abide by the law saying that all those nonsense things are illegal for 20 years.If someone during a board meeting pointed out that rotating electronically received data communications was patented , the board would be required to decide to stop doing that ( or license the patent , but maybe they ca n't , or maybe the patent holder said no ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone's going to make this smart ass joke, but there's actually a serious question here.The USPTO grants patents for utter nonsense.
Then, to maintain credibility, they have to abide by the law saying that all those nonsense things are illegal for 20 years.If someone during a board meeting pointed out that rotating electronically received data communications was patented, the board would be required to decide to stop doing that (or license the patent, but maybe they can't, or maybe the patent holder said no).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022640</id>
	<title>Re:If only...</title>
	<author>jspoon</author>
	<datestamp>1265300640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here how you do it:
<p>
Print out the image.<br>
Put the image in a copy machine UPSIDE DOWN.<br>
The image will come out of the copy machine right side up!
</p><p>
Patent pending.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here how you do it : Print out the image .
Put the image in a copy machine UPSIDE DOWN .
The image will come out of the copy machine right side up !
Patent pending .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here how you do it:

Print out the image.
Put the image in a copy machine UPSIDE DOWN.
The image will come out of the copy machine right side up!
Patent pending.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021454</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022266</id>
	<title>Re:They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265298720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and don't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking. Unfortunately the "novel" method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees, making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.</p></div></blockquote><p>Of course, one would hope that the <b>Patent and Trademark office</b> would be smart enough to realize that a 1987 <b>patent</b> expired in 2007.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and do n't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking .
Unfortunately the " novel " method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they 're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees , making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.Of course , one would hope that the Patent and Trademark office would be smart enough to realize that a 1987 patent expired in 2007 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and don't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking.
Unfortunately the "novel" method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees, making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.Of course, one would hope that the Patent and Trademark office would be smart enough to realize that a 1987 patent expired in 2007.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024424</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265308920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry, the IRS will flip around the upside down one and charge you twice for your taxes no problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry , the IRS will flip around the upside down one and charge you twice for your taxes no problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry, the IRS will flip around the upside down one and charge you twice for your taxes no problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021522</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023286</id>
	<title>Answer: find a competent vendor</title>
	<author>khchung</author>
	<datestamp>1265303640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked with imaging systems a decade ago, and solutions at that time already have no problem auto-rotating scanned images.</p><p>Don't want to post an ad here for big-name-scanner-company, but maybe you need to look for more competent vendors (or possibly more expensive solution) if yours cannot do auto-rotate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked with imaging systems a decade ago , and solutions at that time already have no problem auto-rotating scanned images.Do n't want to post an ad here for big-name-scanner-company , but maybe you need to look for more competent vendors ( or possibly more expensive solution ) if yours can not do auto-rotate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked with imaging systems a decade ago, and solutions at that time already have no problem auto-rotating scanned images.Don't want to post an ad here for big-name-scanner-company, but maybe you need to look for more competent vendors (or possibly more expensive solution) if yours cannot do auto-rotate.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022688</id>
	<title>Re:professionals</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265300880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is beyond silly.  It is just plain stupid.  Government employees prove on a daily basis the 6.5+ billion people on the planet is a huge surplus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is beyond silly .
It is just plain stupid .
Government employees prove on a daily basis the 6.5 + billion people on the planet is a huge surplus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is beyond silly.
It is just plain stupid.
Government employees prove on a daily basis the 6.5+ billion people on the planet is a huge surplus.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021780</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025056</id>
	<title>Re:professionals</title>
	<author>joeyblades</author>
	<datestamp>1265311860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
We have a combination printer/fax machine at work. If I put the paper in the hopper and send a fax it comes out in one orientation. If I print-to-fax it comes out in a different orientation. Who's to say which orientations is right-side-up?
</p><p>
It might be a big deal if these faxes were only going to be handled by computers and never looked at by humans... oh wait... I forgot... this is the USPTO!
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We have a combination printer/fax machine at work .
If I put the paper in the hopper and send a fax it comes out in one orientation .
If I print-to-fax it comes out in a different orientation .
Who 's to say which orientations is right-side-up ?
It might be a big deal if these faxes were only going to be handled by computers and never looked at by humans... oh wait... I forgot... this is the USPTO !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
We have a combination printer/fax machine at work.
If I put the paper in the hopper and send a fax it comes out in one orientation.
If I print-to-fax it comes out in a different orientation.
Who's to say which orientations is right-side-up?
It might be a big deal if these faxes were only going to be handled by computers and never looked at by humans... oh wait... I forgot... this is the USPTO!
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021546</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021868</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1265296860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is rotating the images manually based on text so much view?<br>In irfanview: [r][r][s][enter]<br>Or are your clerks too stupid to recognize rotated text and need software to recognize it for them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is rotating the images manually based on text so much view ? In irfanview : [ r ] [ r ] [ s ] [ enter ] Or are your clerks too stupid to recognize rotated text and need software to recognize it for them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is rotating the images manually based on text so much view?In irfanview: [r][r][s][enter]Or are your clerks too stupid to recognize rotated text and need software to recognize it for them?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</id>
	<title>Idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265294580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just send every single tax filing both ways. The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected. Twice the work for the government.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just send every single tax filing both ways .
The right one gets filed , and wrong one gets rejected .
Twice the work for the government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just send every single tax filing both ways.
The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected.
Twice the work for the government.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023404</id>
	<title>The PTO might be using unlicensed technology...</title>
	<author>billrp</author>
	<datestamp>1265304180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They must be using some patented technology to detect that a fax is upside-down, and they probably think they need to license the patent if they automatically fix the fax.

But I'm sure they also need to pay the license fee even if they just reject the fax.

Or maybe there's an opportunity here - "detect and reject" upside down faxes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They must be using some patented technology to detect that a fax is upside-down , and they probably think they need to license the patent if they automatically fix the fax .
But I 'm sure they also need to pay the license fee even if they just reject the fax .
Or maybe there 's an opportunity here - " detect and reject " upside down faxes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They must be using some patented technology to detect that a fax is upside-down, and they probably think they need to license the patent if they automatically fix the fax.
But I'm sure they also need to pay the license fee even if they just reject the fax.
Or maybe there's an opportunity here - "detect and reject" upside down faxes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024930</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1265311260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate to poop on the parade, but the link in the summary is a 404 error, and searching the domain doesn't show this article exists at all.</p><p>What the heck are you guys all reading? For all I know, Slashdot pulled this out of their ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate to poop on the parade , but the link in the summary is a 404 error , and searching the domain does n't show this article exists at all.What the heck are you guys all reading ?
For all I know , Slashdot pulled this out of their ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate to poop on the parade, but the link in the summary is a 404 error, and searching the domain doesn't show this article exists at all.What the heck are you guys all reading?
For all I know, Slashdot pulled this out of their ass.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021618</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025122</id>
	<title>Re:They... That patent should've been mine!</title>
	<author>notnAP</author>
	<datestamp>1265312220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I applied to patent just such a device myself back in 1984... My application was rejected. You'll never guess why.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I applied to patent just such a device myself back in 1984... My application was rejected .
You 'll never guess why .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I applied to patent just such a device myself back in 1984... My application was rejected.
You'll never guess why.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023100</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265302860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Update:  There is now a discussion on the article that covers this very topic.  Someone theorized that the USPTO received blank pages (meaning that "upside down" meant "back to front".</p><p>The author's reply:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>According to the people involved, that is not the case. The page was simply put in bottom side first. Otherwise, the response would have been that the received fax was blank.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Update : There is now a discussion on the article that covers this very topic .
Someone theorized that the USPTO received blank pages ( meaning that " upside down " meant " back to front " .The author 's reply : According to the people involved , that is not the case .
The page was simply put in bottom side first .
Otherwise , the response would have been that the received fax was blank .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Update:  There is now a discussion on the article that covers this very topic.
Someone theorized that the USPTO received blank pages (meaning that "upside down" meant "back to front".The author's reply:According to the people involved, that is not the case.
The page was simply put in bottom side first.
Otherwise, the response would have been that the received fax was blank.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021618</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024860</id>
	<title>Polictially Incorrect</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265310960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought it was en vogue not to worry about faxual orientation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it was en vogue not to worry about faxual orientation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it was en vogue not to worry about faxual orientation.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022012</id>
	<title>Re:simple reason.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265297580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thing is they could put a 'mark' on the form then.  That mark is in the wrong corner rotate it...  You probably could hire someone freelance to do it in a week.</p><p>Old forms are then rejected...</p><p>This smacks of someone with a 'little' bit of power wielding it over someone else.  I have seen this many times in organizations.  The problem is quickly cleared up though.  Had one little lady yelling at me for 20 mins over an missing comma (being the first time I had ever filled out this form a mistake is expected).  I hung up on her walked up to her office put the comma on the form.  Then informed her this is *THE* last time we *EVER* have this conversation.  I told her the next time it happens she has the authority to just fix it and not make me wait 2 weeks to find out it was rejected because of a missing comma.  The next time I will just hang up on her and take the issue up with her supervisor.  Or she can just put it in.  Talked to others in the office she was doing the same thing to them.  Yelling at them over little stupid things.  Totally loosing it.  Told them of my solution.  She became a lot more polite to everyone.  Guess what her job was?  It was to fix all the little mistakes on forms before they were sent in.  She wanted others to do her job and she figured by acting like a bitch she didnt have to do any work.</p><p>Heh audacity for the catchpa, nice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thing is they could put a 'mark ' on the form then .
That mark is in the wrong corner rotate it... You probably could hire someone freelance to do it in a week.Old forms are then rejected...This smacks of someone with a 'little ' bit of power wielding it over someone else .
I have seen this many times in organizations .
The problem is quickly cleared up though .
Had one little lady yelling at me for 20 mins over an missing comma ( being the first time I had ever filled out this form a mistake is expected ) .
I hung up on her walked up to her office put the comma on the form .
Then informed her this is * THE * last time we * EVER * have this conversation .
I told her the next time it happens she has the authority to just fix it and not make me wait 2 weeks to find out it was rejected because of a missing comma .
The next time I will just hang up on her and take the issue up with her supervisor .
Or she can just put it in .
Talked to others in the office she was doing the same thing to them .
Yelling at them over little stupid things .
Totally loosing it .
Told them of my solution .
She became a lot more polite to everyone .
Guess what her job was ?
It was to fix all the little mistakes on forms before they were sent in .
She wanted others to do her job and she figured by acting like a bitch she didnt have to do any work.Heh audacity for the catchpa , nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thing is they could put a 'mark' on the form then.
That mark is in the wrong corner rotate it...  You probably could hire someone freelance to do it in a week.Old forms are then rejected...This smacks of someone with a 'little' bit of power wielding it over someone else.
I have seen this many times in organizations.
The problem is quickly cleared up though.
Had one little lady yelling at me for 20 mins over an missing comma (being the first time I had ever filled out this form a mistake is expected).
I hung up on her walked up to her office put the comma on the form.
Then informed her this is *THE* last time we *EVER* have this conversation.
I told her the next time it happens she has the authority to just fix it and not make me wait 2 weeks to find out it was rejected because of a missing comma.
The next time I will just hang up on her and take the issue up with her supervisor.
Or she can just put it in.
Talked to others in the office she was doing the same thing to them.
Yelling at them over little stupid things.
Totally loosing it.
Told them of my solution.
She became a lot more polite to everyone.
Guess what her job was?
It was to fix all the little mistakes on forms before they were sent in.
She wanted others to do her job and she figured by acting like a bitch she didnt have to do any work.Heh audacity for the catchpa, nice.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025338</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>192939495969798999</author>
	<datestamp>1265313420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, this is an intelligence test for the sender.  Otherwise they have to read a bunch of other bad stuff, the thinking is that if you can't even be bothered to turn your fax the right way up, what hope do you have for following the more complex patent rules of submission... very similar to Van Halen's M&amp;M rule.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , this is an intelligence test for the sender .
Otherwise they have to read a bunch of other bad stuff , the thinking is that if you ca n't even be bothered to turn your fax the right way up , what hope do you have for following the more complex patent rules of submission... very similar to Van Halen 's M&amp;M rule .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, this is an intelligence test for the sender.
Otherwise they have to read a bunch of other bad stuff, the thinking is that if you can't even be bothered to turn your fax the right way up, what hope do you have for following the more complex patent rules of submission... very similar to Van Halen's M&amp;M rule.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021618</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023960</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>DriedClexler</author>
	<datestamp>1265307000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's what you need to do:</p><p>1) Send out an email that you have a program that will solve the problem where you can't read an image because it's upside down, and they should contact you to have it installed.</p><p>2) Fire anyone who asks for it.  They're too fucking stupid to do their jobs to begin with.</p><p>Seriously, if you can't turn a fucking document around on a computer, there's not much you <i>can</i> be trusted with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's what you need to do : 1 ) Send out an email that you have a program that will solve the problem where you ca n't read an image because it 's upside down , and they should contact you to have it installed.2 ) Fire anyone who asks for it .
They 're too fucking stupid to do their jobs to begin with.Seriously , if you ca n't turn a fucking document around on a computer , there 's not much you can be trusted with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's what you need to do:1) Send out an email that you have a program that will solve the problem where you can't read an image because it's upside down, and they should contact you to have it installed.2) Fire anyone who asks for it.
They're too fucking stupid to do their jobs to begin with.Seriously, if you can't turn a fucking document around on a computer, there's not much you can be trusted with.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023988</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>Doctor Faustus</author>
	<datestamp>1265307060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was news to me that one direction is considered more correct than the other.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was news to me that one direction is considered more correct than the other .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was news to me that one direction is considered more correct than the other.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024672</id>
	<title>Re:professionals</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265310060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Years ago I had to deal with an apparently disgruntled mail delivery person (notice how nicely that was worded).  That person suddenly and without any provocation refused to deliver mail to my mailbox which had been in place receiving mail for more than a decade.  I received a notice that multiple issues with the box MUST be corrected before any more mail could be delivered to it.  Amongst the issues were the height of the box (Yes, there is a requirement) which I thought may be reasonable depending on the vehicle being used to delivery the mail.  However, there are also other requirements regarding the specific size of the address, etc., and that your name be on the box in letters of a minimum height.  I contacted the Postmaster and asked, "If I put my name on the box, are you only going to deliver mail with that name?"  The response was that they had to deliver mail addressed to a particular address.  So, why do you need my name on the box, I asked.  I was told it is a postal regulation requirement.  Then what about all of the other mail boxes on the street that do not meet the requirements that continue to receive mail?  Enforcement is apparently up to whoever winds up delivering mail to a box on any given day.  So if someone who is pissed has to delivery mail to your box on a given day, they can write you up for failure to meet postal regulations and keep others from delivering mail to you as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Years ago I had to deal with an apparently disgruntled mail delivery person ( notice how nicely that was worded ) .
That person suddenly and without any provocation refused to deliver mail to my mailbox which had been in place receiving mail for more than a decade .
I received a notice that multiple issues with the box MUST be corrected before any more mail could be delivered to it .
Amongst the issues were the height of the box ( Yes , there is a requirement ) which I thought may be reasonable depending on the vehicle being used to delivery the mail .
However , there are also other requirements regarding the specific size of the address , etc. , and that your name be on the box in letters of a minimum height .
I contacted the Postmaster and asked , " If I put my name on the box , are you only going to deliver mail with that name ?
" The response was that they had to deliver mail addressed to a particular address .
So , why do you need my name on the box , I asked .
I was told it is a postal regulation requirement .
Then what about all of the other mail boxes on the street that do not meet the requirements that continue to receive mail ?
Enforcement is apparently up to whoever winds up delivering mail to a box on any given day .
So if someone who is pissed has to delivery mail to your box on a given day , they can write you up for failure to meet postal regulations and keep others from delivering mail to you as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Years ago I had to deal with an apparently disgruntled mail delivery person (notice how nicely that was worded).
That person suddenly and without any provocation refused to deliver mail to my mailbox which had been in place receiving mail for more than a decade.
I received a notice that multiple issues with the box MUST be corrected before any more mail could be delivered to it.
Amongst the issues were the height of the box (Yes, there is a requirement) which I thought may be reasonable depending on the vehicle being used to delivery the mail.
However, there are also other requirements regarding the specific size of the address, etc., and that your name be on the box in letters of a minimum height.
I contacted the Postmaster and asked, "If I put my name on the box, are you only going to deliver mail with that name?
"  The response was that they had to deliver mail addressed to a particular address.
So, why do you need my name on the box, I asked.
I was told it is a postal regulation requirement.
Then what about all of the other mail boxes on the street that do not meet the requirements that continue to receive mail?
Enforcement is apparently up to whoever winds up delivering mail to a box on any given day.
So if someone who is pissed has to delivery mail to your box on a given day, they can write you up for failure to meet postal regulations and keep others from delivering mail to you as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021780</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021878</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because maybe they can patent a method for me to read better next time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because maybe they can patent a method for me to read better next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because maybe they can patent a method for me to read better next time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021522</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021546</id>
	<title>professionals</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265295060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do you really want to award a patent to someone that files so many patents that they cannot take the time to send a form right side up?  Furthermore, what does it say about the person who files the patent.  It is not really that hard to do. I can imagine the patents we are talking about.  A patent for a electronic machine to beep when spurious user input is detected.  I would say let's make this even more difficult and require a hand written cover sheet.
<p>
Then there is the cost.  Someone has to correct these mistakes.  Sure they are mostly funded by patent fees, but they also have a budget of 2 billion dollars, any deficit covered by the taxpayers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really want to award a patent to someone that files so many patents that they can not take the time to send a form right side up ?
Furthermore , what does it say about the person who files the patent .
It is not really that hard to do .
I can imagine the patents we are talking about .
A patent for a electronic machine to beep when spurious user input is detected .
I would say let 's make this even more difficult and require a hand written cover sheet .
Then there is the cost .
Someone has to correct these mistakes .
Sure they are mostly funded by patent fees , but they also have a budget of 2 billion dollars , any deficit covered by the taxpayers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you really want to award a patent to someone that files so many patents that they cannot take the time to send a form right side up?
Furthermore, what does it say about the person who files the patent.
It is not really that hard to do.
I can imagine the patents we are talking about.
A patent for a electronic machine to beep when spurious user input is detected.
I would say let's make this even more difficult and require a hand written cover sheet.
Then there is the cost.
Someone has to correct these mistakes.
Sure they are mostly funded by patent fees, but they also have a budget of 2 billion dollars, any deficit covered by the taxpayers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023494</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>coofercat</author>
	<datestamp>1265304660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Okay, so they reject the ones that arrive upside down.</p><p>How does the sender know this? Does the PTO send them a letter (or fax) saying "your request was rejected"? If so, how do they know who to send them to? Presumably they can't read it off the fax, because it's upside down. Does this mean they just don't acknowledge the faxes they reject?</p><p>I would generally say a fax is guaranteed message passing. If they're denying they received the fax because they couldn't read it, then wouldn't the sender's delivery receipt suggest otherwise. In other words, the sender couldn't reasonably know if they had received it or not. On the one hand, they have a delivery receipt that says "yes", on the other, they have no formal acknowledgement.</p><p>Perhaps this is a cunning plan to cut their workload...? "Oh sorry IBM, your faxes must have been upside down. We were wondering how come we had nothing much to do last month!".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay , so they reject the ones that arrive upside down.How does the sender know this ?
Does the PTO send them a letter ( or fax ) saying " your request was rejected " ?
If so , how do they know who to send them to ?
Presumably they ca n't read it off the fax , because it 's upside down .
Does this mean they just do n't acknowledge the faxes they reject ? I would generally say a fax is guaranteed message passing .
If they 're denying they received the fax because they could n't read it , then would n't the sender 's delivery receipt suggest otherwise .
In other words , the sender could n't reasonably know if they had received it or not .
On the one hand , they have a delivery receipt that says " yes " , on the other , they have no formal acknowledgement.Perhaps this is a cunning plan to cut their workload... ?
" Oh sorry IBM , your faxes must have been upside down .
We were wondering how come we had nothing much to do last month !
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay, so they reject the ones that arrive upside down.How does the sender know this?
Does the PTO send them a letter (or fax) saying "your request was rejected"?
If so, how do they know who to send them to?
Presumably they can't read it off the fax, because it's upside down.
Does this mean they just don't acknowledge the faxes they reject?I would generally say a fax is guaranteed message passing.
If they're denying they received the fax because they couldn't read it, then wouldn't the sender's delivery receipt suggest otherwise.
In other words, the sender couldn't reasonably know if they had received it or not.
On the one hand, they have a delivery receipt that says "yes", on the other, they have no formal acknowledgement.Perhaps this is a cunning plan to cut their workload...?
"Oh sorry IBM, your faxes must have been upside down.
We were wondering how come we had nothing much to do last month!
".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021450</id>
	<title>My Personal War:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265294640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I practice civil disobedience by sneaking into the patent office and quickly rotating the faxes upside down...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I practice civil disobedience by sneaking into the patent office and quickly rotating the faxes upside down.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I practice civil disobedience by sneaking into the patent office and quickly rotating the faxes upside down...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021700</id>
	<title>Upside down could mean wrong sheet face up</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it possible that the faxes were received face down so they were getting the back of the page?  Just a thought...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it possible that the faxes were received face down so they were getting the back of the page ?
Just a thought.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it possible that the faxes were received face down so they were getting the back of the page?
Just a thought...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023410</id>
	<title>Misunderstood?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265304240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know I'm posting too late for anyone to read my comment, but for what it's worth the USPTO may be saying that they submitter put the papers into the fax machine literally upside-down, so that the USPTO received blank pages.  If I received this return fax, that's what I'd assume it means.  I used to work in a copy shop, and sometimes people would send us blank faxes so I'd send out a letter similar to this asking them to resend the fax after turning the pages over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know I 'm posting too late for anyone to read my comment , but for what it 's worth the USPTO may be saying that they submitter put the papers into the fax machine literally upside-down , so that the USPTO received blank pages .
If I received this return fax , that 's what I 'd assume it means .
I used to work in a copy shop , and sometimes people would send us blank faxes so I 'd send out a letter similar to this asking them to resend the fax after turning the pages over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know I'm posting too late for anyone to read my comment, but for what it's worth the USPTO may be saying that they submitter put the papers into the fax machine literally upside-down, so that the USPTO received blank pages.
If I received this return fax, that's what I'd assume it means.
I used to work in a copy shop, and sometimes people would send us blank faxes so I'd send out a letter similar to this asking them to resend the fax after turning the pages over.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024034</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265307240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hope you weren't needing any toenails.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hope you were n't needing any toenails.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hope you weren't needing any toenails.....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022170</id>
	<title>Re:They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265298300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, I have a patent on rotating them x degrees (where x  180) and subsequently rotating them (180-x) degrees, so they can't do that, either.</p><p>I suppose they could rotate them 180+x degrees, and then rotate them -x degrees...hold on, gotta call King &amp; Spalding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , I have a patent on rotating them x degrees ( where x 180 ) and subsequently rotating them ( 180-x ) degrees , so they ca n't do that , either.I suppose they could rotate them 180 + x degrees , and then rotate them -x degrees...hold on , got ta call King &amp; Spalding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, I have a patent on rotating them x degrees (where x  180) and subsequently rotating them (180-x) degrees, so they can't do that, either.I suppose they could rotate them 180+x degrees, and then rotate them -x degrees...hold on, gotta call King &amp; Spalding.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021488</id>
	<title>Too bad....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265294820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just subitted a patent for inverted reading glasses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just subitted a patent for inverted reading glasses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just subitted a patent for inverted reading glasses.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31029558</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1265292180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"The page was simply put in bottom side first."</p></div><p>Yeah, "bottom side first" is so much clearer and less ambiguous.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The page was simply put in bottom side first .
" Yeah , " bottom side first " is so much clearer and less ambiguous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The page was simply put in bottom side first.
"Yeah, "bottom side first" is so much clearer and less ambiguous.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31029100</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1265289240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Another one would be since they KNOW what form they are supposed to be looking at they can match things up that way. Or more generally match up the top right corner logo or the footer... which are generally on all their forms. If all of this fails then well they control the damn forms! Just stick a big fucking black mark in a corner and be done with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Another one would be since they KNOW what form they are supposed to be looking at they can match things up that way .
Or more generally match up the top right corner logo or the footer... which are generally on all their forms .
If all of this fails then well they control the damn forms !
Just stick a big fucking black mark in a corner and be done with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another one would be since they KNOW what form they are supposed to be looking at they can match things up that way.
Or more generally match up the top right corner logo or the footer... which are generally on all their forms.
If all of this fails then well they control the damn forms!
Just stick a big fucking black mark in a corner and be done with it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021790</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022942</id>
	<title>Re:It is good to know they cut costs down.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265302140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FAIL! USPTO != USPS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FAIL !
USPTO ! = USPS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FAIL!
USPTO != USPS</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021658</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022764</id>
	<title>Alteration?</title>
	<author>Known Nutter</author>
	<datestamp>1265301240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could it be that the USPTO flipping the image constitutes altering the image?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could it be that the USPTO flipping the image constitutes altering the image ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could it be that the USPTO flipping the image constitutes altering the image?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021908</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265297040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>read the top 10 lines, if header exist, run OCR, if it doesn't recognize, rotate. If no fax header consider it SPAM and grant no patent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>read the top 10 lines , if header exist , run OCR , if it does n't recognize , rotate .
If no fax header consider it SPAM and grant no patent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>read the top 10 lines, if header exist, run OCR, if it doesn't recognize, rotate.
If no fax header consider it SPAM and grant no patent.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022694</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265300880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And You think that's a raw deal?<br>I'm left-handed and I have to spend all day just looking for the<br>left-handed wrenches and screwdrivers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And You think that 's a raw deal ? I 'm left-handed and I have to spend all day just looking for theleft-handed wrenches and screwdrivers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And You think that's a raw deal?I'm left-handed and I have to spend all day just looking for theleft-handed wrenches and screwdrivers!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025856</id>
	<title>Why fax your patent?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265316480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How lazy must you be to fax your patent in?  Hey, I had this great idea - why don't I just trust 1980 technology to handle it....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How lazy must you be to fax your patent in ?
Hey , I had this great idea - why do n't I just trust 1980 technology to handle it... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How lazy must you be to fax your patent in?
Hey, I had this great idea - why don't I just trust 1980 technology to handle it....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021720</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Easy. It's only annoying to rotate the document if you have to do it every time the document is opened. So solution would be:<br>-application is opened for the first time on screen<br>-crap it's upside down.<br>-press "filed upside down" button.<br>-the info is saved so the next time the application is opened, the document is shown<br>upside up.<br>-fire any clerk that thinks pressing the button to turn upside down document filled upright is hilarious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Easy .
It 's only annoying to rotate the document if you have to do it every time the document is opened .
So solution would be : -application is opened for the first time on screen-crap it 's upside down.-press " filed upside down " button.-the info is saved so the next time the application is opened , the document is shownupside up.-fire any clerk that thinks pressing the button to turn upside down document filled upright is hilarious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easy.
It's only annoying to rotate the document if you have to do it every time the document is opened.
So solution would be:-application is opened for the first time on screen-crap it's upside down.-press "filed upside down" button.-the info is saved so the next time the application is opened, the document is shownupside up.-fire any clerk that thinks pressing the button to turn upside down document filled upright is hilarious.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024810</id>
	<title>Stupid inventors</title>
	<author>ari\_j</author>
	<datestamp>1265310780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In other news, apparently there are enough people inventing things and filing for patents but still incapable of operating a fax machine.  I think that this is a perfectly reasonable, preliminary test for patentability.  If you can't fax your application in right-side-up and with the printed side of the page transmitted instead of the blank side, then you are too dumb to have invented anything novel. (And remember Edison and the light bulb: If you aren't willing to try faxing your application four times to be sure that it arrives in the correct orientation, you probably don't know how to fail at your invention enough times to get it right, either.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>In other news , apparently there are enough people inventing things and filing for patents but still incapable of operating a fax machine .
I think that this is a perfectly reasonable , preliminary test for patentability .
If you ca n't fax your application in right-side-up and with the printed side of the page transmitted instead of the blank side , then you are too dumb to have invented anything novel .
( And remember Edison and the light bulb : If you are n't willing to try faxing your application four times to be sure that it arrives in the correct orientation , you probably do n't know how to fail at your invention enough times to get it right , either .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news, apparently there are enough people inventing things and filing for patents but still incapable of operating a fax machine.
I think that this is a perfectly reasonable, preliminary test for patentability.
If you can't fax your application in right-side-up and with the printed side of the page transmitted instead of the blank side, then you are too dumb to have invented anything novel.
(And remember Edison and the light bulb: If you aren't willing to try faxing your application four times to be sure that it arrives in the correct orientation, you probably don't know how to fail at your invention enough times to get it right, either.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023614</id>
	<title>Re:A possible explanation:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265305140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.pu deddom teg reven stnemmoc drawoc suomynona ym yhw s'taht oS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.pu deddom teg reven stnemmoc drawoc suomynona ym yhw s'taht oS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.pu deddom teg reven stnemmoc drawoc suomynona ym yhw s'taht oS</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021530</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022770</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Send all employees to courses on how to read upside down documents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Send all employees to courses on how to read upside down documents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Send all employees to courses on how to read upside down documents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022374</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>bytethese</author>
	<datestamp>1265299380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TFA says: <i>"Here&rsquo;s a copy of the letter that a source, who regularly deals with the USPTO, passed along to me:"</i> <br> <br>

Perhaps a letter was mailed to the person?  If the USPTO received a blank page, how would they know where to mail the letter?<br> <br>

It also says: "The faxed submission was received upside down. We are unable to continue processing these images." <br> <br>

The fax was received upside down, not backwards/reversed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA says : " Here    s a copy of the letter that a source , who regularly deals with the USPTO , passed along to me : " Perhaps a letter was mailed to the person ?
If the USPTO received a blank page , how would they know where to mail the letter ?
It also says : " The faxed submission was received upside down .
We are unable to continue processing these images .
" The fax was received upside down , not backwards/reversed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA says: "Here’s a copy of the letter that a source, who regularly deals with the USPTO, passed along to me:"  

Perhaps a letter was mailed to the person?
If the USPTO received a blank page, how would they know where to mail the letter?
It also says: "The faxed submission was received upside down.
We are unable to continue processing these images.
"  

The fax was received upside down, not backwards/reversed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31030926</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>gaelfx</author>
	<datestamp>1265303760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, and somebody already patented "Nothing" so any new blank sheets submitted as patents are invalid due to prior art.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and somebody already patented " Nothing " so any new blank sheets submitted as patents are invalid due to prior art .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and somebody already patented "Nothing" so any new blank sheets submitted as patents are invalid due to prior art.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021618</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021998</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>cvtan</author>
	<datestamp>1265297520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the comments on the article site mentions this.  It has been great fun trashing the government for idiocy, but you can't expect people to deal with a blank submission.  Just another troll to get people fired up about how the government can't do anything right.  They are even getting partially blamed for the Toyota gas pedal recall.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the comments on the article site mentions this .
It has been great fun trashing the government for idiocy , but you ca n't expect people to deal with a blank submission .
Just another troll to get people fired up about how the government ca n't do anything right .
They are even getting partially blamed for the Toyota gas pedal recall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the comments on the article site mentions this.
It has been great fun trashing the government for idiocy, but you can't expect people to deal with a blank submission.
Just another troll to get people fired up about how the government can't do anything right.
They are even getting partially blamed for the Toyota gas pedal recall.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021618</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026606</id>
	<title>can mail be rotated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265276400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder what happens if you MAIL your patent application in. When the person at some desk opens the envelope<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..and your paperwork comes out "upside down"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..do they:<br>i) have the technology to rotate the pages?<br>ii) discard the application for reasons in the article?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what happens if you MAIL your patent application in .
When the person at some desk opens the envelope ..and your paperwork comes out " upside down " ..do they : i ) have the technology to rotate the pages ? ii ) discard the application for reasons in the article ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what happens if you MAIL your patent application in.
When the person at some desk opens the envelope ..and your paperwork comes out "upside down" ..do they:i) have the technology to rotate the pages?ii) discard the application for reasons in the article?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021490</id>
	<title>candy?</title>
	<author>MentlFlos</author>
	<datestamp>1265294820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>When they buy a bag of M&amp;Ms do they throw away all the W, E and 3s too?</htmltext>
<tokenext>When they buy a bag of M&amp;Ms do they throw away all the W , E and 3s too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When they buy a bag of M&amp;Ms do they throw away all the W, E and 3s too?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022152</id>
	<title>Re:professionals</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265298180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, so in your fax machine, does the first line read go to the top of a page or the bottom of a page?  Mine is flat, and there is no particular reason for feeding top-first or bottom-first.  Top-first means they feed through with the bottom of the first page followed by the top of the second, which makes sense for a continuous document.  Bottom-first means they are moving "down" with respect to the text, which feels more natural.  Bottom-first also works better (for the top of page 2 touching bottom of page 1) if you are feeding the last page first, so they come out at the other end with the first page on top.
</p><p>
When I copy photos from a digital camera to my computer, it can tell which are upside-down or sideways; why can't a FAX viewer figure out which way is up automatically?
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , so in your fax machine , does the first line read go to the top of a page or the bottom of a page ?
Mine is flat , and there is no particular reason for feeding top-first or bottom-first .
Top-first means they feed through with the bottom of the first page followed by the top of the second , which makes sense for a continuous document .
Bottom-first means they are moving " down " with respect to the text , which feels more natural .
Bottom-first also works better ( for the top of page 2 touching bottom of page 1 ) if you are feeding the last page first , so they come out at the other end with the first page on top .
When I copy photos from a digital camera to my computer , it can tell which are upside-down or sideways ; why ca n't a FAX viewer figure out which way is up automatically ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, so in your fax machine, does the first line read go to the top of a page or the bottom of a page?
Mine is flat, and there is no particular reason for feeding top-first or bottom-first.
Top-first means they feed through with the bottom of the first page followed by the top of the second, which makes sense for a continuous document.
Bottom-first means they are moving "down" with respect to the text, which feels more natural.
Bottom-first also works better (for the top of page 2 touching bottom of page 1) if you are feeding the last page first, so they come out at the other end with the first page on top.
When I copy photos from a digital camera to my computer, it can tell which are upside-down or sideways; why can't a FAX viewer figure out which way is up automatically?
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021546</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021830</id>
	<title>Fax?</title>
	<author>nashv</author>
	<datestamp>1265296680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I the only one to ask why the office that is supposed to deal with new innovation is still using fax in the age of the internet?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one to ask why the office that is supposed to deal with new innovation is still using fax in the age of the internet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one to ask why the office that is supposed to deal with new innovation is still using fax in the age of the internet?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025804</id>
	<title>Dont deserve a patent</title>
	<author>uslurper</author>
	<datestamp>1265316240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People who do not know how to use a fax machine correctly do not deserve a patent.</p><p>The USPTO would save a ton of time if they hired Vader for their customer service. "Apology accepted, Patent Troll!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People who do not know how to use a fax machine correctly do not deserve a patent.The USPTO would save a ton of time if they hired Vader for their customer service .
" Apology accepted , Patent Troll !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who do not know how to use a fax machine correctly do not deserve a patent.The USPTO would save a ton of time if they hired Vader for their customer service.
"Apology accepted, Patent Troll!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022910</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>INT\_QRK</author>
	<datestamp>1265301960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is obviously an artifact of the "Americans with Disabilities Act," a little know provision of which provides federal Senior Executive Service (SES) level positions for "Special Needs" individuals. Here inside the DC Beltway a little yellow short-bus now runs between every department and agency on a 5 minute schedule, sometimes confusing school children from out of town. Seriously folks, this reflects the worst of a bureaucratic mindset that attempts to overlay finite and rigid rule-sets on a richly infinite and chaotic world. Rules are necessary and good, helping us to abstract from the unmanageably complex to humanly manageable bite-sizes. The best rules also enable such concepts as "fairness" and "impartiality" by enforcing consistency to agreed standards on decision-making processes. However, the world is not really so simple, and any abstraction is necessarily imperfect. So, man evolved mental faculties to survive in a complex environment. We call some of these faculties "reason," and "judgment," sometimes referring to a concept called "common sense."  Rules, regulations, guideline, and laws must account for some measure of judgment. That is in fact why we employ people we call "managers" and "executives." We, in fact, usually pay such individuals more money than others with the thought, sometimes a delusion, that the education, background, or connections that these people have indicate a superior capacity to occasionally rise above the rule sets as needed to apply common sense where rigid rules may not apply, or, indeed, need to be changed, lest they might be confused with symptoms of insanity, stupidity or malice. So, let me be the first to call for the firing of the dumb SOB SES at USPTO who approved this rule.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is obviously an artifact of the " Americans with Disabilities Act , " a little know provision of which provides federal Senior Executive Service ( SES ) level positions for " Special Needs " individuals .
Here inside the DC Beltway a little yellow short-bus now runs between every department and agency on a 5 minute schedule , sometimes confusing school children from out of town .
Seriously folks , this reflects the worst of a bureaucratic mindset that attempts to overlay finite and rigid rule-sets on a richly infinite and chaotic world .
Rules are necessary and good , helping us to abstract from the unmanageably complex to humanly manageable bite-sizes .
The best rules also enable such concepts as " fairness " and " impartiality " by enforcing consistency to agreed standards on decision-making processes .
However , the world is not really so simple , and any abstraction is necessarily imperfect .
So , man evolved mental faculties to survive in a complex environment .
We call some of these faculties " reason , " and " judgment , " sometimes referring to a concept called " common sense .
" Rules , regulations , guideline , and laws must account for some measure of judgment .
That is in fact why we employ people we call " managers " and " executives .
" We , in fact , usually pay such individuals more money than others with the thought , sometimes a delusion , that the education , background , or connections that these people have indicate a superior capacity to occasionally rise above the rule sets as needed to apply common sense where rigid rules may not apply , or , indeed , need to be changed , lest they might be confused with symptoms of insanity , stupidity or malice .
So , let me be the first to call for the firing of the dumb SOB SES at USPTO who approved this rule .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is obviously an artifact of the "Americans with Disabilities Act," a little know provision of which provides federal Senior Executive Service (SES) level positions for "Special Needs" individuals.
Here inside the DC Beltway a little yellow short-bus now runs between every department and agency on a 5 minute schedule, sometimes confusing school children from out of town.
Seriously folks, this reflects the worst of a bureaucratic mindset that attempts to overlay finite and rigid rule-sets on a richly infinite and chaotic world.
Rules are necessary and good, helping us to abstract from the unmanageably complex to humanly manageable bite-sizes.
The best rules also enable such concepts as "fairness" and "impartiality" by enforcing consistency to agreed standards on decision-making processes.
However, the world is not really so simple, and any abstraction is necessarily imperfect.
So, man evolved mental faculties to survive in a complex environment.
We call some of these faculties "reason," and "judgment," sometimes referring to a concept called "common sense.
"  Rules, regulations, guideline, and laws must account for some measure of judgment.
That is in fact why we employ people we call "managers" and "executives.
" We, in fact, usually pay such individuals more money than others with the thought, sometimes a delusion, that the education, background, or connections that these people have indicate a superior capacity to occasionally rise above the rule sets as needed to apply common sense where rigid rules may not apply, or, indeed, need to be changed, lest they might be confused with symptoms of insanity, stupidity or malice.
So, let me be the first to call for the firing of the dumb SOB SES at USPTO who approved this rule.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021522</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022176</id>
	<title>Re:simple reason.</title>
	<author>bickerdyke</author>
	<datestamp>1265298300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>along the same line of thinking, but even simpler:</p><p>4) They rely on the Fax-ID Line with timestamp and senders Fax number to be at the top of the page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>along the same line of thinking , but even simpler : 4 ) They rely on the Fax-ID Line with timestamp and senders Fax number to be at the top of the page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>along the same line of thinking, but even simpler:4) They rely on the Fax-ID Line with timestamp and senders Fax number to be at the top of the page.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022732</id>
	<title>Re:In all seriousness...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But wait, if you send it upside down, won't it arrive blank?</p></div><p>That thought cross my mind, too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But wait , if you send it upside down , wo n't it arrive blank ? That thought cross my mind , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But wait, if you send it upside down, won't it arrive blank?That thought cross my mind, too.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023080</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>Blindman</author>
	<datestamp>1265302740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Then wouldn't the reason be "we received a blank page"?</p></div><p>Furthermore, there is no way to determine if a blank page is also upside down.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then would n't the reason be " we received a blank page " ? Furthermore , there is no way to determine if a blank page is also upside down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then wouldn't the reason be "we received a blank page"?Furthermore, there is no way to determine if a blank page is also upside down.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025564</id>
	<title>Re:In a similar fashion</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1265314560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>What I mean is, they'll probably put the burguer or soda first, then the fries, when there's only the first item in your tray, rotate it.</i></p><p>Ok I'll bite... why? What is this supposed to accomplish?</p><p>"Oh haha! You fast food workers are so stupid! My fries are on the LEFT side of my burger and they're supposed to be on the RIGHT side of my burger! Also they're facing backwards instead of forward! I should complain to the manager because you made me turn my fry box around before eating them, you know."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I mean is , they 'll probably put the burguer or soda first , then the fries , when there 's only the first item in your tray , rotate it.Ok I 'll bite... why ? What is this supposed to accomplish ?
" Oh haha !
You fast food workers are so stupid !
My fries are on the LEFT side of my burger and they 're supposed to be on the RIGHT side of my burger !
Also they 're facing backwards instead of forward !
I should complain to the manager because you made me turn my fry box around before eating them , you know .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I mean is, they'll probably put the burguer or soda first, then the fries, when there's only the first item in your tray, rotate it.Ok I'll bite... why? What is this supposed to accomplish?
"Oh haha!
You fast food workers are so stupid!
My fries are on the LEFT side of my burger and they're supposed to be on the RIGHT side of my burger!
Also they're facing backwards instead of forward!
I should complain to the manager because you made me turn my fry box around before eating them, you know.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021686</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021624</id>
	<title>I see the game here...</title>
	<author>quadelirus</author>
	<datestamp>1265295480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rather than hire more staff to handle the increasing volume of patent applications the USPTO has decided to lower its volume by requiring that you send your fax right side up. If the volume starts to get back up to normal they'll simply turn their fax machines upside down and claim that everyone needs to stop sending upside down faxes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rather than hire more staff to handle the increasing volume of patent applications the USPTO has decided to lower its volume by requiring that you send your fax right side up .
If the volume starts to get back up to normal they 'll simply turn their fax machines upside down and claim that everyone needs to stop sending upside down faxes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rather than hire more staff to handle the increasing volume of patent applications the USPTO has decided to lower its volume by requiring that you send your fax right side up.
If the volume starts to get back up to normal they'll simply turn their fax machines upside down and claim that everyone needs to stop sending upside down faxes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021610</id>
	<title>simple reason.</title>
	<author>will\_die</author>
	<datestamp>1265295480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since they have a form letter for this it is more then just turing the paper around.  So just applying technical thinking I can think of three quick reasons.<br>
1) The don't print them out and instead file them electronicly.  OCR software would have problems with documents that have some parts upside down.<br>
2) They apply some additional printing, barcode, date, etc that is used when storing the documents.  Having info upside down would cause the info to be in the wrong place when human start handling it since they would want it in a readable order.<br>
3) Pages are printed on both sides, same basic problems as 2.<br>
<br>
Overall a none story unless FAX is the only way they accept the paperwork and in that case it is a matter of WTF are they still using faxes for.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since they have a form letter for this it is more then just turing the paper around .
So just applying technical thinking I can think of three quick reasons .
1 ) The do n't print them out and instead file them electronicly .
OCR software would have problems with documents that have some parts upside down .
2 ) They apply some additional printing , barcode , date , etc that is used when storing the documents .
Having info upside down would cause the info to be in the wrong place when human start handling it since they would want it in a readable order .
3 ) Pages are printed on both sides , same basic problems as 2 .
Overall a none story unless FAX is the only way they accept the paperwork and in that case it is a matter of WTF are they still using faxes for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since they have a form letter for this it is more then just turing the paper around.
So just applying technical thinking I can think of three quick reasons.
1) The don't print them out and instead file them electronicly.
OCR software would have problems with documents that have some parts upside down.
2) They apply some additional printing, barcode, date, etc that is used when storing the documents.
Having info upside down would cause the info to be in the wrong place when human start handling it since they would want it in a readable order.
3) Pages are printed on both sides, same basic problems as 2.
Overall a none story unless FAX is the only way they accept the paperwork and in that case it is a matter of WTF are they still using faxes for.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022958</id>
	<title>Why should senders be so stupid &amp; lazy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265302200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I side with the patent office on this one. I write software for medical offices, and receiving faxes on the computer is part of that. To rotate an upside-down fax 180 degrees only takes 1 click in my software. But why the heck should my users have to do that all day long because somebody (it's always the same doctor's offices) is too lazy or stupid to put the paper in their fax machine the way the little icons on the fax machine indicate? Yes it's a very very small irritation, but it's one that really should not exist at all. And what about long faxes where the pages are jumbled and the orientation switches randomly throughout? Seriously, if you drop the fucking chart on the floor, put it back together properly before faxing it to us. Do not expect your recipients to play "52-page pickup" with your faxes!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I side with the patent office on this one .
I write software for medical offices , and receiving faxes on the computer is part of that .
To rotate an upside-down fax 180 degrees only takes 1 click in my software .
But why the heck should my users have to do that all day long because somebody ( it 's always the same doctor 's offices ) is too lazy or stupid to put the paper in their fax machine the way the little icons on the fax machine indicate ?
Yes it 's a very very small irritation , but it 's one that really should not exist at all .
And what about long faxes where the pages are jumbled and the orientation switches randomly throughout ?
Seriously , if you drop the fucking chart on the floor , put it back together properly before faxing it to us .
Do not expect your recipients to play " 52-page pickup " with your faxes !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I side with the patent office on this one.
I write software for medical offices, and receiving faxes on the computer is part of that.
To rotate an upside-down fax 180 degrees only takes 1 click in my software.
But why the heck should my users have to do that all day long because somebody (it's always the same doctor's offices) is too lazy or stupid to put the paper in their fax machine the way the little icons on the fax machine indicate?
Yes it's a very very small irritation, but it's one that really should not exist at all.
And what about long faxes where the pages are jumbled and the orientation switches randomly throughout?
Seriously, if you drop the fucking chart on the floor, put it back together properly before faxing it to us.
Do not expect your recipients to play "52-page pickup" with your faxes!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022080</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>GaryOlson</author>
	<datestamp>1265297880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As stated earlier, interns are cheap. And interns have a multifunction interface which allows them to perform more than one task. Many tasks which require interacting with people are best solved by other people. I guarantee the cost of an intern is cheaper than government procurement procedures for software purchases.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As stated earlier , interns are cheap .
And interns have a multifunction interface which allows them to perform more than one task .
Many tasks which require interacting with people are best solved by other people .
I guarantee the cost of an intern is cheaper than government procurement procedures for software purchases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As stated earlier, interns are cheap.
And interns have a multifunction interface which allows them to perform more than one task.
Many tasks which require interacting with people are best solved by other people.
I guarantee the cost of an intern is cheaper than government procurement procedures for software purchases.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31033924</id>
	<title>Re:My Personal War:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265381820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; a "Courier boy, properly dressed in gentlemanly attire."</p><p>LOL.  Is that an original phrase?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; a " Courier boy , properly dressed in gentlemanly attire. " LOL .
Is that an original phrase ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; a "Courier boy, properly dressed in gentlemanly attire."LOL.
Is that an original phrase?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022200</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021726</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1265296140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm supposed to feel outrage because a government office wants to save our tax money by requiring people (lawyers) too stupid to use a fax machine to correct their own mistakes?</p></div><p>How is this saving our tax money?</p><p>Option 1:<br>
&nbsp; - Find the form letter that says the original FAX was sent upside down (call that 30 seconds if it happens a lot).<br>
&nbsp; - Fill out the details of the recipient and get the recipient's FAX number (1-2 minutes).<br>
&nbsp; - FAX out a copy to the recipient (1 minute).<br>
&nbsp; - Fill out the rejection paperwork (assuming a few minutes).<br>
&nbsp; - Eventually receive the replacement document.<br>
&nbsp; - File paperwork.</p><p>Option 2:<br>
&nbsp; - Hit fucking "page rotate".  Twice if it's only capable of 90 degrees at a time.  On a DOS-based 286SX with 4MB RAM and FAXManager, that used to take me about 5 seconds per keypress, so I expect whatever the USPTO is running might be a tad faster.  If not, they are looking at ten seconds, tops.<br>
&nbsp; - File paperwork.</p><p>If this is true (and I hope to [insert deity here] that this is just a joke), the government office is not saving tax money, they are wasting it.  They are wasting several minutes of their time, and phone charges to send the replacement FAX out.  Assuming it's all electronic, they are also wasting storage space to store the image of the rejected application and the audit trail including the image of their return FAX.  Assuming it's paper, they are wasting paper and filing space.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm supposed to feel outrage because a government office wants to save our tax money by requiring people ( lawyers ) too stupid to use a fax machine to correct their own mistakes ? How is this saving our tax money ? Option 1 :   - Find the form letter that says the original FAX was sent upside down ( call that 30 seconds if it happens a lot ) .
  - Fill out the details of the recipient and get the recipient 's FAX number ( 1-2 minutes ) .
  - FAX out a copy to the recipient ( 1 minute ) .
  - Fill out the rejection paperwork ( assuming a few minutes ) .
  - Eventually receive the replacement document .
  - File paperwork.Option 2 :   - Hit fucking " page rotate " .
Twice if it 's only capable of 90 degrees at a time .
On a DOS-based 286SX with 4MB RAM and FAXManager , that used to take me about 5 seconds per keypress , so I expect whatever the USPTO is running might be a tad faster .
If not , they are looking at ten seconds , tops .
  - File paperwork.If this is true ( and I hope to [ insert deity here ] that this is just a joke ) , the government office is not saving tax money , they are wasting it .
They are wasting several minutes of their time , and phone charges to send the replacement FAX out .
Assuming it 's all electronic , they are also wasting storage space to store the image of the rejected application and the audit trail including the image of their return FAX .
Assuming it 's paper , they are wasting paper and filing space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm supposed to feel outrage because a government office wants to save our tax money by requiring people (lawyers) too stupid to use a fax machine to correct their own mistakes?How is this saving our tax money?Option 1:
  - Find the form letter that says the original FAX was sent upside down (call that 30 seconds if it happens a lot).
  - Fill out the details of the recipient and get the recipient's FAX number (1-2 minutes).
  - FAX out a copy to the recipient (1 minute).
  - Fill out the rejection paperwork (assuming a few minutes).
  - Eventually receive the replacement document.
  - File paperwork.Option 2:
  - Hit fucking "page rotate".
Twice if it's only capable of 90 degrees at a time.
On a DOS-based 286SX with 4MB RAM and FAXManager, that used to take me about 5 seconds per keypress, so I expect whatever the USPTO is running might be a tad faster.
If not, they are looking at ten seconds, tops.
  - File paperwork.If this is true (and I hope to [insert deity here] that this is just a joke), the government office is not saving tax money, they are wasting it.
They are wasting several minutes of their time, and phone charges to send the replacement FAX out.
Assuming it's all electronic, they are also wasting storage space to store the image of the rejected application and the audit trail including the image of their return FAX.
Assuming it's paper, they are wasting paper and filing space.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021556</id>
	<title>Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265295120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm supposed to feel outrage because a government office wants to save our tax money by requiring people (lawyers) too stupid to use a fax machine to correct their own mistakes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm supposed to feel outrage because a government office wants to save our tax money by requiring people ( lawyers ) too stupid to use a fax machine to correct their own mistakes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm supposed to feel outrage because a government office wants to save our tax money by requiring people (lawyers) too stupid to use a fax machine to correct their own mistakes?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021658</id>
	<title>It is good to know they cut costs down.</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1265295660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The standard charge against all government orgs, especially about the Post Office, is that they are staffed by morons who follow the rules and don't pay any attention to cost. They fly a charter plane 200 miles to deliver a single 43 cent first class letter.<p>

I am glad in this instance they are paying attention to costs. Imagine how much it would cost to rotate the entire post office every time a fax comes in the wrong orientation and rotate it back when it comes in the correct orientation. Good for them they refuse to accept such upside down faxes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The standard charge against all government orgs , especially about the Post Office , is that they are staffed by morons who follow the rules and do n't pay any attention to cost .
They fly a charter plane 200 miles to deliver a single 43 cent first class letter .
I am glad in this instance they are paying attention to costs .
Imagine how much it would cost to rotate the entire post office every time a fax comes in the wrong orientation and rotate it back when it comes in the correct orientation .
Good for them they refuse to accept such upside down faxes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The standard charge against all government orgs, especially about the Post Office, is that they are staffed by morons who follow the rules and don't pay any attention to cost.
They fly a charter plane 200 miles to deliver a single 43 cent first class letter.
I am glad in this instance they are paying attention to costs.
Imagine how much it would cost to rotate the entire post office every time a fax comes in the wrong orientation and rotate it back when it comes in the correct orientation.
Good for them they refuse to accept such upside down faxes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025142</id>
	<title>ou</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265312280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>uop psdn p o o no nb<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,up1no  'p upo s u  buz s,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.s op p1no odsn   puspun<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,u</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>uop psdn p o o no nb ,up1no 'p upo s u buz s , .s op p1no odsn puspun ,u</tokentext>
<sentencetext>uop psdn p o o no nb ,up1no  'p upo s u  buz s, .s op p1no odsn   puspun ,u</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023458</id>
	<title>Re:A possible explanation:</title>
	<author>formfeed</author>
	<datestamp>1265304420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, turning the monitor didn't work, the monitor stand wasn't designed for this. <p>
I guess they had people hanging from the ceiling like bats instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , turning the monitor did n't work , the monitor stand was n't designed for this .
I guess they had people hanging from the ceiling like bats instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, turning the monitor didn't work, the monitor stand wasn't designed for this.
I guess they had people hanging from the ceiling like bats instead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021530</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022874</id>
	<title>Really mess them up</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1265301720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Print out the Patent application so they can only be read by using a mirror.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Print out the Patent application so they can only be read by using a mirror.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Print out the Patent application so they can only be read by using a mirror.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025242</id>
	<title>Fairly Normal</title>
	<author>Artagel</author>
	<datestamp>1265312760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I practice before the USPTO. This kind of thing is fairly common for the agency. Actually, I am pretty blase about this one.

But that tells you what kind of organization it is, I guess. I lost may capacity for outrage years ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I practice before the USPTO .
This kind of thing is fairly common for the agency .
Actually , I am pretty blase about this one .
But that tells you what kind of organization it is , I guess .
I lost may capacity for outrage years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I practice before the USPTO.
This kind of thing is fairly common for the agency.
Actually, I am pretty blase about this one.
But that tells you what kind of organization it is, I guess.
I lost may capacity for outrage years ago.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026630</id>
	<title>Re:Is it patented? no, seriously</title>
	<author>Facegarden</author>
	<datestamp>1265276460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Everyone's going to make this smart ass joke, but there's actually a serious question here.</p><p>The USPTO grants patents for utter nonsense.  Then, to maintain credibility, they have to abide by the law saying that all those nonsense things are illegal for 20 years.</p><p>If someone during a board meeting pointed out that rotating electronically received data communications was patented, the board would be required to decide to stop doing that (or license the patent, but maybe they can't, or maybe the patent holder said no).</p></div><p>The government is legally allowed to use any patented technology for anything they do. So no, they actually don't have to be held down by their own rediculousness.</p><p>That is both a relief, and a bit unfortunate at the same time.<br>-Taylor</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone 's going to make this smart ass joke , but there 's actually a serious question here.The USPTO grants patents for utter nonsense .
Then , to maintain credibility , they have to abide by the law saying that all those nonsense things are illegal for 20 years.If someone during a board meeting pointed out that rotating electronically received data communications was patented , the board would be required to decide to stop doing that ( or license the patent , but maybe they ca n't , or maybe the patent holder said no ) .The government is legally allowed to use any patented technology for anything they do .
So no , they actually do n't have to be held down by their own rediculousness.That is both a relief , and a bit unfortunate at the same time.-Taylor</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone's going to make this smart ass joke, but there's actually a serious question here.The USPTO grants patents for utter nonsense.
Then, to maintain credibility, they have to abide by the law saying that all those nonsense things are illegal for 20 years.If someone during a board meeting pointed out that rotating electronically received data communications was patented, the board would be required to decide to stop doing that (or license the patent, but maybe they can't, or maybe the patent holder said no).The government is legally allowed to use any patented technology for anything they do.
So no, they actually don't have to be held down by their own rediculousness.That is both a relief, and a bit unfortunate at the same time.-Taylor
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021752</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024996</id>
	<title>Original link appears to be down</title>
	<author>phiz187</author>
	<datestamp>1265311620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here is some info from the USPTO website: <a href="http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/og/2000/week33/patfacs.htm" title="uspto.gov">http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/og/2000/week33/patfacs.htm</a> [uspto.gov]<p><div class="quote"><p>Why are you telling me that my document is "upside down"?

In a routine fax transmission, page orientation (top of the page first
into the machine or bottom of the page first) is not critical because
the reader can easily flip and arrange the pages to read them top to
bottom. However, it is critical to our process that each page is faxed
top to bottom with the top margin being fed first into the machine. Once
they have been received in PTAS, fax transmitted assignments are
processed strictly by electronic means. Although the PTAS software can
rotate a document 180 degrees for viewing purposes, when the electronic
document is extracted to generate the archival microfilm record, each
page is extracted exactly as it was first received. Accordingly, a
document sent "upside down" would be microfilmed upside down. To further
complicate matters, because the system generated recordation and reel
and frame markings on the pages would be in the opposite orientation,
the resulting document would be difficult to read.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here is some info from the USPTO website : http : //www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/og/2000/week33/patfacs.htm [ uspto.gov ] Why are you telling me that my document is " upside down " ?
In a routine fax transmission , page orientation ( top of the page first into the machine or bottom of the page first ) is not critical because the reader can easily flip and arrange the pages to read them top to bottom .
However , it is critical to our process that each page is faxed top to bottom with the top margin being fed first into the machine .
Once they have been received in PTAS , fax transmitted assignments are processed strictly by electronic means .
Although the PTAS software can rotate a document 180 degrees for viewing purposes , when the electronic document is extracted to generate the archival microfilm record , each page is extracted exactly as it was first received .
Accordingly , a document sent " upside down " would be microfilmed upside down .
To further complicate matters , because the system generated recordation and reel and frame markings on the pages would be in the opposite orientation , the resulting document would be difficult to read .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is some info from the USPTO website: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/og/2000/week33/patfacs.htm [uspto.gov]Why are you telling me that my document is "upside down"?
In a routine fax transmission, page orientation (top of the page first
into the machine or bottom of the page first) is not critical because
the reader can easily flip and arrange the pages to read them top to
bottom.
However, it is critical to our process that each page is faxed
top to bottom with the top margin being fed first into the machine.
Once
they have been received in PTAS, fax transmitted assignments are
processed strictly by electronic means.
Although the PTAS software can
rotate a document 180 degrees for viewing purposes, when the electronic
document is extracted to generate the archival microfilm record, each
page is extracted exactly as it was first received.
Accordingly, a
document sent "upside down" would be microfilmed upside down.
To further
complicate matters, because the system generated recordation and reel
and frame markings on the pages would be in the opposite orientation,
the resulting document would be difficult to read.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021496</id>
	<title>Re:If only...</title>
	<author>bsDaemon</author>
	<datestamp>1265294820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought this was already invented and called the "Intern", but wasn't patentable due to prior art in the form of slaves and indentured servants?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought this was already invented and called the " Intern " , but was n't patentable due to prior art in the form of slaves and indentured servants ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought this was already invented and called the "Intern", but wasn't patentable due to prior art in the form of slaves and indentured servants?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021454</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021576</id>
	<title>This attitude is becoming standard</title>
	<author>line-bundle</author>
	<datestamp>1265295180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because the USPTO has all the power, they can decide on anything to cut down on the number of applicants.</p><p>The same thing is also happening in the job market with all the power in the hands of employers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because the USPTO has all the power , they can decide on anything to cut down on the number of applicants.The same thing is also happening in the job market with all the power in the hands of employers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because the USPTO has all the power, they can decide on anything to cut down on the number of applicants.The same thing is also happening in the job market with all the power in the hands of employers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025266</id>
	<title>Story Icon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265312940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is the huge USPTO icon really necessary?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is the huge USPTO icon really necessary ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is the huge USPTO icon really necessary?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021506</id>
	<title>They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265294880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and don't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking.  Unfortunately the "novel" method patented covers both clockwise <i>and</i> counterclockwise but they're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees, making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and do n't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking .
Unfortunately the " novel " method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they 're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees , making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and don't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking.
Unfortunately the "novel" method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees, making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024064</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>trdrstv</author>
	<datestamp>1265307480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you have ever filed a patent (successfully) you are aware that there are some weird requirements for formatting.</p></div><p>
Then why don't they make you fill out a web form instead?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have ever filed a patent ( successfully ) you are aware that there are some weird requirements for formatting .
Then why do n't they make you fill out a web form instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have ever filed a patent (successfully) you are aware that there are some weird requirements for formatting.
Then why don't they make you fill out a web form instead?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022838</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue.  They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around.  Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text.  Anybody?  Reply here.</p></div><p>Run gocr on the document (run 1), rotate it 180 degrees and run gocr on that (run 2).</p><p>If (no of dictionary words(run 2) &gt; no of dictionary words(run 1)) {</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; doc = rotated doc;<br>}</p></div><p>What if the document contains a word which can be mistaken in both the upwards and downwards, such as"</p><p>wow -- mom<br>I -- I</p><p>Still basically a good technique, as long as you weight it on how many found words!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue .
They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around .
Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text .
Anybody ? Reply here.Run gocr on the document ( run 1 ) , rotate it 180 degrees and run gocr on that ( run 2 ) .If ( no of dictionary words ( run 2 ) &gt; no of dictionary words ( run 1 ) ) {         doc = rotated doc ; } What if the document contains a word which can be mistaken in both the upwards and downwards , such as " wow -- momI -- IStill basically a good technique , as long as you weight it on how many found words !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue.
They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around.
Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text.
Anybody?  Reply here.Run gocr on the document (run 1), rotate it 180 degrees and run gocr on that (run 2).If (no of dictionary words(run 2) &gt; no of dictionary words(run 1)) {
        doc = rotated doc;}What if the document contains a word which can be mistaken in both the upwards and downwards, such as"wow -- momI -- IStill basically a good technique, as long as you weight it on how many found words!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021790</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31028422</id>
	<title>Re:In a similar fashion</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1265285400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In our McDonalds, you only ever get the fries and the drink right away<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the burger will always be "4 minutes, is that okay ?" (after you've already paid of course, with no option to abort the deal).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In our McDonalds , you only ever get the fries and the drink right away ... the burger will always be " 4 minutes , is that okay ?
" ( after you 've already paid of course , with no option to abort the deal ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In our McDonalds, you only ever get the fries and the drink right away ... the burger will always be "4 minutes, is that okay ?
" (after you've already paid of course, with no option to abort the deal).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021686</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024642</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Brainfryd</author>
	<datestamp>1265309940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder what the Patent office uses to get the whiteout off their monitor screens after they use their word processor software and correct the mistakes in spelling....</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what the Patent office uses to get the whiteout off their monitor screens after they use their word processor software and correct the mistakes in spelling... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what the Patent office uses to get the whiteout off their monitor screens after they use their word processor software and correct the mistakes in spelling....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024752</id>
	<title>Won't, not Can't.</title>
	<author>DigitalCrackPipe</author>
	<datestamp>1265310360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since few will RTFA, at least read the title.  Won't is different than can't.  Maybe it's a good thing to expect some standards with the submission.  In time, if people learn the rules of submission we should expect that most submissions would be done correctly. <br> <br>
The next step is to require submissions to be for something legitimately patentable, but one step at a time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since few will RTFA , at least read the title .
Wo n't is different than ca n't .
Maybe it 's a good thing to expect some standards with the submission .
In time , if people learn the rules of submission we should expect that most submissions would be done correctly .
The next step is to require submissions to be for something legitimately patentable , but one step at a time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since few will RTFA, at least read the title.
Won't is different than can't.
Maybe it's a good thing to expect some standards with the submission.
In time, if people learn the rules of submission we should expect that most submissions would be done correctly.
The next step is to require submissions to be for something legitimately patentable, but one step at a time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31027192</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>tophermeyer</author>
	<datestamp>1265278800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also used to work for a CLEC.  I remember on one occasion I had to get a customer CSR (Customer Service Record) from this one little podunk mom and pop rural carrier by Fed-ex.  They refused to fax or send anything electronically, and made my company pay the shipping charges.  To be fair, it's probably because we were trying to take their lines, so I understand them being cranky.  But still, its ridiculous.</p><p>It confuses me why anyone (phone companies or the USPTO) would even want their documentation on paper.  Electronicize that stuff, and eliminate a huge amount of wasted expense in paper, shipping, and storage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also used to work for a CLEC .
I remember on one occasion I had to get a customer CSR ( Customer Service Record ) from this one little podunk mom and pop rural carrier by Fed-ex .
They refused to fax or send anything electronically , and made my company pay the shipping charges .
To be fair , it 's probably because we were trying to take their lines , so I understand them being cranky .
But still , its ridiculous.It confuses me why anyone ( phone companies or the USPTO ) would even want their documentation on paper .
Electronicize that stuff , and eliminate a huge amount of wasted expense in paper , shipping , and storage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also used to work for a CLEC.
I remember on one occasion I had to get a customer CSR (Customer Service Record) from this one little podunk mom and pop rural carrier by Fed-ex.
They refused to fax or send anything electronically, and made my company pay the shipping charges.
To be fair, it's probably because we were trying to take their lines, so I understand them being cranky.
But still, its ridiculous.It confuses me why anyone (phone companies or the USPTO) would even want their documentation on paper.
Electronicize that stuff, and eliminate a huge amount of wasted expense in paper, shipping, and storage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31030994</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>thoughtfulbloke</author>
	<datestamp>1265304300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Places that I have worked for that have had this kind of problem have had the power to design the form they were wanting to accept. The easy answer is to add non-symmetrical content - a logo in the top left with blank space in the top right, bottom left and bottom right, or having a black rectangle across the page two thirds of the way down. The computer looks for the significant markers and orientates the page into the correct alignment.<br>
Basically, the idea is to make the form so that the job you want to do with it (figure out which way is up) is easy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Places that I have worked for that have had this kind of problem have had the power to design the form they were wanting to accept .
The easy answer is to add non-symmetrical content - a logo in the top left with blank space in the top right , bottom left and bottom right , or having a black rectangle across the page two thirds of the way down .
The computer looks for the significant markers and orientates the page into the correct alignment .
Basically , the idea is to make the form so that the job you want to do with it ( figure out which way is up ) is easy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Places that I have worked for that have had this kind of problem have had the power to design the form they were wanting to accept.
The easy answer is to add non-symmetrical content - a logo in the top left with blank space in the top right, bottom left and bottom right, or having a black rectangle across the page two thirds of the way down.
The computer looks for the significant markers and orientates the page into the correct alignment.
Basically, the idea is to make the form so that the job you want to do with it (figure out which way is up) is easy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023620</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265305200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're not serious are you? Put a black pixel or some other marking in one corner of the form. If the pixel is not there, rotate 180 degrees.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're not serious are you ?
Put a black pixel or some other marking in one corner of the form .
If the pixel is not there , rotate 180 degrees .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're not serious are you?
Put a black pixel or some other marking in one corner of the form.
If the pixel is not there, rotate 180 degrees.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026572</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Facegarden</author>
	<datestamp>1265276280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue.  They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around.  Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text.  Anybody?  Reply here.</p></div><p>What file format do they come in? If they are PDFs, adobe reader just has a f'ing "Rotate" button, since the format is often used for scanned documents which have that very problem.</p><p>-Taylor</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue .
They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around .
Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text .
Anybody ? Reply here.What file format do they come in ?
If they are PDFs , adobe reader just has a f'ing " Rotate " button , since the format is often used for scanned documents which have that very problem.-Taylor</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work at a federal regulatory agency which is having the same issue.
They were asking IT/tech/computer people if there was a solution around.
Nobody knew of any software that auto rotates images based on text.
Anybody?  Reply here.What file format do they come in?
If they are PDFs, adobe reader just has a f'ing "Rotate" button, since the format is often used for scanned documents which have that very problem.-Taylor
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022900</id>
	<title>Amazon owns the Patent...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>on One-Click Faxing.  That's why they make us rotate the image as the extra click.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>on One-Click Faxing .
That 's why they make us rotate the image as the extra click .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>on One-Click Faxing.
That's why they make us rotate the image as the extra click.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021778</id>
	<title>well, duh !</title>
	<author>sxpert</author>
	<datestamp>1265296380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that's because rotating the image of a fax is patented and they can't afford the license !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that 's because rotating the image of a fax is patented and they ca n't afford the license !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that's because rotating the image of a fax is patented and they can't afford the license !</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024588</id>
	<title>Probably a very good reason for this, you know!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265309700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe sending a fax upside down and then rotating it 180 degrees does not result in the same thing as sending a correctly oriented fax?</p><p>See, a fax doesn't necessarily contain only the faxed material.</p><p>What if some additional meta-information is printed on it? Then that info is in the opposite orientation from the rest of the fax, no matter how you rotate it.</p><p>Gee, I can't imagine how that could ever possibly cause problems in some automated filing system for faxes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe sending a fax upside down and then rotating it 180 degrees does not result in the same thing as sending a correctly oriented fax ? See , a fax does n't necessarily contain only the faxed material.What if some additional meta-information is printed on it ?
Then that info is in the opposite orientation from the rest of the fax , no matter how you rotate it.Gee , I ca n't imagine how that could ever possibly cause problems in some automated filing system for faxes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe sending a fax upside down and then rotating it 180 degrees does not result in the same thing as sending a correctly oriented fax?See, a fax doesn't necessarily contain only the faxed material.What if some additional meta-information is printed on it?
Then that info is in the opposite orientation from the rest of the fax, no matter how you rotate it.Gee, I can't imagine how that could ever possibly cause problems in some automated filing system for faxes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023966</id>
	<title>Re:A possible explanation:</title>
	<author>TangoMargarine</author>
	<datestamp>1265307000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I always wonder why in several very common fonts, the lemniscate character *is* actually a rotated eight. If you're going to define its own symbol in Unicode, why can't you bother actually drawing it correctly?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I always wonder why in several very common fonts , the lemniscate character * is * actually a rotated eight .
If you 're going to define its own symbol in Unicode , why ca n't you bother actually drawing it correctly ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always wonder why in several very common fonts, the lemniscate character *is* actually a rotated eight.
If you're going to define its own symbol in Unicode, why can't you bother actually drawing it correctly?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021530</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023102</id>
	<title>Re:simple reason.</title>
	<author>b4dc0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1265302920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The recipient fax usually prints off some relevant information in the margins.  If the document were rotated, it could overwrite this data, or make it harder to find.  In the case of quasi-legible printing, it's important to know that you're looking at it the correct way.</p><p>Put it this way.  If we ever switch to first-to-file, you're going to want a good record of when you faxed something.  Or someone contests your patent based on prior art around the time if your submission.  Or lots of reasons.</p><p>Everything on the page should be right side up at the same time, including marks made by the recipient fax.  It's a technicality, but makes for consistent documentation.  And if they politely let you know you goofed, you can try again.</p><p>I don't read it as being "upside down" top to bottom, as in faxing the back of the paper, I read it as "upside down" when looking at the paper as a two-dimensional grid.  So nobody need argue with me on that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The recipient fax usually prints off some relevant information in the margins .
If the document were rotated , it could overwrite this data , or make it harder to find .
In the case of quasi-legible printing , it 's important to know that you 're looking at it the correct way.Put it this way .
If we ever switch to first-to-file , you 're going to want a good record of when you faxed something .
Or someone contests your patent based on prior art around the time if your submission .
Or lots of reasons.Everything on the page should be right side up at the same time , including marks made by the recipient fax .
It 's a technicality , but makes for consistent documentation .
And if they politely let you know you goofed , you can try again.I do n't read it as being " upside down " top to bottom , as in faxing the back of the paper , I read it as " upside down " when looking at the paper as a two-dimensional grid .
So nobody need argue with me on that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The recipient fax usually prints off some relevant information in the margins.
If the document were rotated, it could overwrite this data, or make it harder to find.
In the case of quasi-legible printing, it's important to know that you're looking at it the correct way.Put it this way.
If we ever switch to first-to-file, you're going to want a good record of when you faxed something.
Or someone contests your patent based on prior art around the time if your submission.
Or lots of reasons.Everything on the page should be right side up at the same time, including marks made by the recipient fax.
It's a technicality, but makes for consistent documentation.
And if they politely let you know you goofed, you can try again.I don't read it as being "upside down" top to bottom, as in faxing the back of the paper, I read it as "upside down" when looking at the paper as a two-dimensional grid.
So nobody need argue with me on that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022562</id>
	<title>Re:In all seriousness...</title>
	<author>pal3f</author>
	<datestamp>1265300280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>YES. YES!! Good God -- FINALLY!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>YES .
YES ! ! Good God -- FINALLY !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YES.
YES!! Good God -- FINALLY!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021856</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>CSHARP123</author>
	<datestamp>1265296800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here is a Free software that rotates Jpg files. <a href="http://annystudio.com/software/jpeglosslessrotator/" title="annystudio.com">http://annystudio.com/software/jpeglosslessrotator/</a> [annystudio.com]
You can write a batch script to rotate the images.

Hope this helps.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here is a Free software that rotates Jpg files .
http : //annystudio.com/software/jpeglosslessrotator/ [ annystudio.com ] You can write a batch script to rotate the images .
Hope this helps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is a Free software that rotates Jpg files.
http://annystudio.com/software/jpeglosslessrotator/ [annystudio.com]
You can write a batch script to rotate the images.
Hope this helps.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022240</id>
	<title>Solution:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265298660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fax them twice, once per direction on that axis!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Better make it 4 times just to be safe.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh crap, and another 4 times upside down. You have to be sure!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fax them twice , once per direction on that axis !
... Better make it 4 times just to be safe .
... oh crap , and another 4 times upside down .
You have to be sure !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fax them twice, once per direction on that axis!
... Better make it 4 times just to be safe.
... oh crap, and another 4 times upside down.
You have to be sure!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024392</id>
	<title>Upside Down Faxes</title>
	<author>orient</author>
	<datestamp>1265308800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe they're rejected because they're blank?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they 're rejected because they 're blank ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they're rejected because they're blank?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31037420</id>
	<title>is this meant primarily for diagrams?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265398800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it possible that this rule is in effect so that a diagram of an invention isn't misinterpreted by being read upside down. If the digram is of something odd or strand that isn't easily recognizable, and if it is accidently read upside down without knowing it is oriented properly, this could pose problems, right? So, if a requirement that all documents are sent in an upright position, such a requirement would help resolve any possible problems with a digram being read upside down and therefor misinterpreted.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it possible that this rule is in effect so that a diagram of an invention is n't misinterpreted by being read upside down .
If the digram is of something odd or strand that is n't easily recognizable , and if it is accidently read upside down without knowing it is oriented properly , this could pose problems , right ?
So , if a requirement that all documents are sent in an upright position , such a requirement would help resolve any possible problems with a digram being read upside down and therefor misinterpreted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it possible that this rule is in effect so that a diagram of an invention isn't misinterpreted by being read upside down.
If the digram is of something odd or strand that isn't easily recognizable, and if it is accidently read upside down without knowing it is oriented properly, this could pose problems, right?
So, if a requirement that all documents are sent in an upright position, such a requirement would help resolve any possible problems with a digram being read upside down and therefor misinterpreted.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021590</id>
	<title>Well now</title>
	<author>zoomshorts</author>
	<datestamp>1265295300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It all depends on the definition of upside down. Back in the day it meant<br>the white side of the paper was oriented against the scanning device. All<br>pages were blank. Your mileage may vary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It all depends on the definition of upside down .
Back in the day it meantthe white side of the paper was oriented against the scanning device .
Allpages were blank .
Your mileage may vary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It all depends on the definition of upside down.
Back in the day it meantthe white side of the paper was oriented against the scanning device.
Allpages were blank.
Your mileage may vary.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022572</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>riboch</author>
	<datestamp>1265300340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ask the post office how they do it.</p><p>I would be willing to make a wager, for a decent sum of money, that I could do this for an arbitrarily oriented image.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ask the post office how they do it.I would be willing to make a wager , for a decent sum of money , that I could do this for an arbitrarily oriented image .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ask the post office how they do it.I would be willing to make a wager, for a decent sum of money, that I could do this for an arbitrarily oriented image.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022480</id>
	<title>It's about the ritual</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1265299860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It depends on how they reject it.  If they're just silently rejecting anything that comes through incorrectly oriented, then they're spending no effort, and they don't have to review the patent of the person who was too lazy to check the orientation and later to check the progress of the patent.</p><p>Now, maybe they handle it in such a way that it results in more effort for everyone,  but there are applications of a "no upside-downeys" that result in confounding shovelware patents and saving effort for the patent office.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It depends on how they reject it .
If they 're just silently rejecting anything that comes through incorrectly oriented , then they 're spending no effort , and they do n't have to review the patent of the person who was too lazy to check the orientation and later to check the progress of the patent.Now , maybe they handle it in such a way that it results in more effort for everyone , but there are applications of a " no upside-downeys " that result in confounding shovelware patents and saving effort for the patent office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It depends on how they reject it.
If they're just silently rejecting anything that comes through incorrectly oriented, then they're spending no effort, and they don't have to review the patent of the person who was too lazy to check the orientation and later to check the progress of the patent.Now, maybe they handle it in such a way that it results in more effort for everyone,  but there are applications of a "no upside-downeys" that result in confounding shovelware patents and saving effort for the patent office.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021726</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023412</id>
	<title>Re:In all seriousness...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265304240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>NO, upside down means that the letters are UPSIDE DOWN.</htmltext>
<tokenext>NO , upside down means that the letters are UPSIDE DOWN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NO, upside down means that the letters are UPSIDE DOWN.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022422</id>
	<title>Re:professionals</title>
	<author>Just Some Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1265299620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Do you really want to award a patent to someone that files so many patents that they cannot take the time to send a form right side up?</p></div><p>It's pretty obvious which end of the paper to put into a standard sheet-feeder fax machine. It's often completely unobvious how to put paper in a multifunction machine. Even with those inscrutable little icons,  I always manage to translate into 3d and back to 2d completely incorrectly (damn you, advanced calculus!). I might as well flip a coin to decide whether to put the top or bottom of the page against the edge of the glass.</p><p>If "professional" means memorizing the manuals of every scanner and fax machine I come across, then I guess I'm unprofessional. If it means putting text labels on scanners, like "TOP OF PAGE HERE", then so is every fax manufacturer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really want to award a patent to someone that files so many patents that they can not take the time to send a form right side up ? It 's pretty obvious which end of the paper to put into a standard sheet-feeder fax machine .
It 's often completely unobvious how to put paper in a multifunction machine .
Even with those inscrutable little icons , I always manage to translate into 3d and back to 2d completely incorrectly ( damn you , advanced calculus ! ) .
I might as well flip a coin to decide whether to put the top or bottom of the page against the edge of the glass.If " professional " means memorizing the manuals of every scanner and fax machine I come across , then I guess I 'm unprofessional .
If it means putting text labels on scanners , like " TOP OF PAGE HERE " , then so is every fax manufacturer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you really want to award a patent to someone that files so many patents that they cannot take the time to send a form right side up?It's pretty obvious which end of the paper to put into a standard sheet-feeder fax machine.
It's often completely unobvious how to put paper in a multifunction machine.
Even with those inscrutable little icons,  I always manage to translate into 3d and back to 2d completely incorrectly (damn you, advanced calculus!).
I might as well flip a coin to decide whether to put the top or bottom of the page against the edge of the glass.If "professional" means memorizing the manuals of every scanner and fax machine I come across, then I guess I'm unprofessional.
If it means putting text labels on scanners, like "TOP OF PAGE HERE", then so is every fax manufacturer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021546</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023790</id>
	<title>Re:This really should be filedd undeer "idle..</title>
	<author>seandiggity</author>
	<datestamp>1265306100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I just can't see any insightful or interesting comments coming from this, much less the story itself.
</p><p>
And I don't mean that in any sort of disrespectful way. This just seems more suited to the "idle" section for its absurdity.</p></div><p>Well, y'know, there's no big news today...it's not like the OS that runs most mobile phones in the world was just released as free software...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just ca n't see any insightful or interesting comments coming from this , much less the story itself .
And I do n't mean that in any sort of disrespectful way .
This just seems more suited to the " idle " section for its absurdity.Well , y'know , there 's no big news today...it 's not like the OS that runs most mobile phones in the world was just released as free software.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just can't see any insightful or interesting comments coming from this, much less the story itself.
And I don't mean that in any sort of disrespectful way.
This just seems more suited to the "idle" section for its absurdity.Well, y'know, there's no big news today...it's not like the OS that runs most mobile phones in the world was just released as free software...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021568</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021796</id>
	<title>That is not even funny</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My sister tried to refinance her house (she still sick and lost 50\% of her income, so according to oBaMa she can refinance). She got a letter rejecting her application because according to them the ink was blue and it was too thick.</p><p>Hey the forgot to mention how many microns the ink must be (well is documented but is a secret)</p><p>Ciao</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My sister tried to refinance her house ( she still sick and lost 50 \ % of her income , so according to oBaMa she can refinance ) .
She got a letter rejecting her application because according to them the ink was blue and it was too thick.Hey the forgot to mention how many microns the ink must be ( well is documented but is a secret ) Ciao</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My sister tried to refinance her house (she still sick and lost 50\% of her income, so according to oBaMa she can refinance).
She got a letter rejecting her application because according to them the ink was blue and it was too thick.Hey the forgot to mention how many microns the ink must be (well is documented but is a secret)Ciao</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022196</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265298420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The same thing happened to me, but with plumbing parts.  I have to buy a whole box of elbows to make sure I have enough "right turns" and enough "left turns".  Home depot has got to get the quality control issues dealt with.</p><p>Sheldon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The same thing happened to me , but with plumbing parts .
I have to buy a whole box of elbows to make sure I have enough " right turns " and enough " left turns " .
Home depot has got to get the quality control issues dealt with.Sheldon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same thing happened to me, but with plumbing parts.
I have to buy a whole box of elbows to make sure I have enough "right turns" and enough "left turns".
Home depot has got to get the quality control issues dealt with.Sheldon</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022766</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>chainsaw1</author>
	<datestamp>1265301240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While that would work in practice, the doubling (actually a little over for the diff) of your processing per document may not be acceptable for places receiving large numbers of documents.  It should also be noted that the fax header and/or footer will always be right-side up regardless of the actual page orientation.</p><p>I'm sure there's another way around, but gocr on the top or bottom section wouldn't provide enough data to "overrule" the header / footer, and doing the whole document would be pretty wasteful of computing time...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While that would work in practice , the doubling ( actually a little over for the diff ) of your processing per document may not be acceptable for places receiving large numbers of documents .
It should also be noted that the fax header and/or footer will always be right-side up regardless of the actual page orientation.I 'm sure there 's another way around , but gocr on the top or bottom section would n't provide enough data to " overrule " the header / footer , and doing the whole document would be pretty wasteful of computing time.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While that would work in practice, the doubling (actually a little over for the diff) of your processing per document may not be acceptable for places receiving large numbers of documents.
It should also be noted that the fax header and/or footer will always be right-side up regardless of the actual page orientation.I'm sure there's another way around, but gocr on the top or bottom section wouldn't provide enough data to "overrule" the header / footer, and doing the whole document would be pretty wasteful of computing time...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021790</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022696</id>
	<title>Re:simple reason.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265300880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Problem is, they are actually sending you a notification that you sent fax upside-down but they are not capable of rotating it themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Problem is , they are actually sending you a notification that you sent fax upside-down but they are not capable of rotating it themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Problem is, they are actually sending you a notification that you sent fax upside-down but they are not capable of rotating it themselves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025436</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1265313840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I was having the same trouble with T-junctions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I was having the same trouble with T-junctions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I was having the same trouble with T-junctions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022196</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021712</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How much money do you think it takes to turn a peice of paper around when you pick it up from the Fax machine? Do you really think this would involve some kind of expensive machinery to accomplish?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How much money do you think it takes to turn a peice of paper around when you pick it up from the Fax machine ?
Do you really think this would involve some kind of expensive machinery to accomplish ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much money do you think it takes to turn a peice of paper around when you pick it up from the Fax machine?
Do you really think this would involve some kind of expensive machinery to accomplish?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022112</id>
	<title>Re:simple reason.</title>
	<author>pbhj</author>
	<datestamp>1265298060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm guessing as part of the receipt process, these are legal docs after all, the incoming facsimile pages are immediately stamped and barcoded automatically. Then you have a problem, you can't tamper with the docs and remove the stamp as this is a legal notation of receipt. You can't modify the incoming doc and then stamp it as unaltered from that received as that would be a minor fraud.</p><p>When you digitise and rotate so the docs are readable onscreen the tagging and barcodes are now misplaced - print a header page and it can no longer be automatically checked for barcodes/ receipt stamps without checking in 2 places and processing further. Moreover the space in the forms for the stamping is not being used and instead the stamp is probably covering informational parts of the doc.</p><p>The alternative is to handle incoming faxes manually. If someone chooses to file their document or amendments by fax and their patent is a few hundred pages long then this is going to be a pretty silly thing to do manually, especially as the manual stamping of the docs is going to need to be checked and will require more machine processing to read than if it had been automated in the first place.</p><p>Seems reasonable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing as part of the receipt process , these are legal docs after all , the incoming facsimile pages are immediately stamped and barcoded automatically .
Then you have a problem , you ca n't tamper with the docs and remove the stamp as this is a legal notation of receipt .
You ca n't modify the incoming doc and then stamp it as unaltered from that received as that would be a minor fraud.When you digitise and rotate so the docs are readable onscreen the tagging and barcodes are now misplaced - print a header page and it can no longer be automatically checked for barcodes/ receipt stamps without checking in 2 places and processing further .
Moreover the space in the forms for the stamping is not being used and instead the stamp is probably covering informational parts of the doc.The alternative is to handle incoming faxes manually .
If someone chooses to file their document or amendments by fax and their patent is a few hundred pages long then this is going to be a pretty silly thing to do manually , especially as the manual stamping of the docs is going to need to be checked and will require more machine processing to read than if it had been automated in the first place.Seems reasonable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing as part of the receipt process, these are legal docs after all, the incoming facsimile pages are immediately stamped and barcoded automatically.
Then you have a problem, you can't tamper with the docs and remove the stamp as this is a legal notation of receipt.
You can't modify the incoming doc and then stamp it as unaltered from that received as that would be a minor fraud.When you digitise and rotate so the docs are readable onscreen the tagging and barcodes are now misplaced - print a header page and it can no longer be automatically checked for barcodes/ receipt stamps without checking in 2 places and processing further.
Moreover the space in the forms for the stamping is not being used and instead the stamp is probably covering informational parts of the doc.The alternative is to handle incoming faxes manually.
If someone chooses to file their document or amendments by fax and their patent is a few hundred pages long then this is going to be a pretty silly thing to do manually, especially as the manual stamping of the docs is going to need to be checked and will require more machine processing to read than if it had been automated in the first place.Seems reasonable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022090</id>
	<title>I bet a lot...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265297940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who here has printed these posts and faxed them to the PTO upside down?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who here has printed these posts and faxed them to the PTO upside down ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who here has printed these posts and faxed them to the PTO upside down?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022776</id>
	<title>If you can't send a fax correctly...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you can't send the fax correctly, why should they care? You've started out sloppy, so you probably have other stuff messed up as well.  You're just wasting their time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you ca n't send the fax correctly , why should they care ?
You 've started out sloppy , so you probably have other stuff messed up as well .
You 're just wasting their time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can't send the fax correctly, why should they care?
You've started out sloppy, so you probably have other stuff messed up as well.
You're just wasting their time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025004</id>
	<title>They need tech support</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265311620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reminds me of this old Norwegian sketch about tech support in middle ages</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRBIVRwvUeE</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of this old Norwegian sketch about tech support in middle ageshttp : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = LRBIVRwvUeE</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of this old Norwegian sketch about tech support in middle ageshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRBIVRwvUeE</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023616</id>
	<title>Re:My Personal War:</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1265305200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sometimes, when random people ask me to take their picture and hand me their point-and-click camera, I hold it upside down and take the picture that way.</p><p>The looks on their faces are funny before they realize that they just have to rotate that picture 180 degrees. (Possibly 90 degrees, if it&rsquo;s a digital camera... most of the ones with orientation sensors think the picture is sideways if you hold them upside-down.)</p><p>Then they&rsquo;ll remember me when they get the photos off the camera and that one is rotated funny...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sometimes , when random people ask me to take their picture and hand me their point-and-click camera , I hold it upside down and take the picture that way.The looks on their faces are funny before they realize that they just have to rotate that picture 180 degrees .
( Possibly 90 degrees , if it    s a digital camera... most of the ones with orientation sensors think the picture is sideways if you hold them upside-down .
) Then they    ll remember me when they get the photos off the camera and that one is rotated funny.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sometimes, when random people ask me to take their picture and hand me their point-and-click camera, I hold it upside down and take the picture that way.The looks on their faces are funny before they realize that they just have to rotate that picture 180 degrees.
(Possibly 90 degrees, if it’s a digital camera... most of the ones with orientation sensors think the picture is sideways if you hold them upside-down.
)Then they’ll remember me when they get the photos off the camera and that one is rotated funny...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026540</id>
	<title>This is for your own good idiots!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265276100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is to protect us from patent trolls! See, if the patent application comes in upside down they can't properly read it and assuming it's just too technical for them, they approve it. According to their own numbers, after implementing this right-side-up only format frivolous patents have declined by over 3L)\%!</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is to protect us from patent trolls !
See , if the patent application comes in upside down they ca n't properly read it and assuming it 's just too technical for them , they approve it .
According to their own numbers , after implementing this right-side-up only format frivolous patents have declined by over 3L ) \ % !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is to protect us from patent trolls!
See, if the patent application comes in upside down they can't properly read it and assuming it's just too technical for them, they approve it.
According to their own numbers, after implementing this right-side-up only format frivolous patents have declined by over 3L)\%!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026486</id>
	<title>Re:Idea</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1265275860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just send every single tax filing both ways. The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected. Twice the work for the government.</p></div><p>That's a fine idea.  Let's make a bloated and expensive process even <i>more</i> bloated and expensive...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just send every single tax filing both ways .
The right one gets filed , and wrong one gets rejected .
Twice the work for the government.That 's a fine idea .
Let 's make a bloated and expensive process even more bloated and expensive.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just send every single tax filing both ways.
The right one gets filed, and wrong one gets rejected.
Twice the work for the government.That's a fine idea.
Let's make a bloated and expensive process even more bloated and expensive...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31026910</id>
	<title>Re:In all seriousness...</title>
	<author>SleazyRidr</author>
	<datestamp>1265277540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did that once in my first few weeks of work. My boss replied 'Thanks for the fax, I would however prefer the fronts of the pages.'</p><p>That was back when I had a cool boss.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did that once in my first few weeks of work .
My boss replied 'Thanks for the fax , I would however prefer the fronts of the pages .
'That was back when I had a cool boss .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did that once in my first few weeks of work.
My boss replied 'Thanks for the fax, I would however prefer the fronts of the pages.
'That was back when I had a cool boss.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022716</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265301000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How much money do you think they are saving by spending time to reply back and request a resubmit vs. just turning the damn page around? Idiot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much money do you think they are saving by spending time to reply back and request a resubmit vs. just turning the damn page around ?
Idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much money do you think they are saving by spending time to reply back and request a resubmit vs. just turning the damn page around?
Idiot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022236</id>
	<title>Re:candy?</title>
	<author>Bakkster</author>
	<datestamp>1265298600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Inconceivable!</p></div><p>You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Inconceivable ! You keep using that word .
I do not think it means what you think it means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Inconceivable!You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022906</id>
	<title>Re:This really should be filedd undeer "idle..</title>
	<author>Pharmboy</author>
	<datestamp>1265301900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tend to agree with AC below.  This demonstrates how fudged up the USPTO is, caught up in their own bureaucracy to be truly effective at what they are charged to do.  It is one more reason to doubt the validity of their actions, a direct example.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tend to agree with AC below .
This demonstrates how fudged up the USPTO is , caught up in their own bureaucracy to be truly effective at what they are charged to do .
It is one more reason to doubt the validity of their actions , a direct example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tend to agree with AC below.
This demonstrates how fudged up the USPTO is, caught up in their own bureaucracy to be truly effective at what they are charged to do.
It is one more reason to doubt the validity of their actions, a direct example.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021568</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025522</id>
	<title>What do they mean by upside down?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265314320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do they mean it's on the other side of the paper or that the text is upside-down? I can almost see their frustration if the text is upside-down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do they mean it 's on the other side of the paper or that the text is upside-down ?
I can almost see their frustration if the text is upside-down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do they mean it's on the other side of the paper or that the text is upside-down?
I can almost see their frustration if the text is upside-down.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025176</id>
	<title>Re:They Would Simply Rotate Them 180 Degrees ...</title>
	<author>sorak</author>
	<datestamp>1265312400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and don't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking. Unfortunately the "novel" method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees, making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.</p></div></blockquote><p>Of course, one would hope that the <b>Patent and Trademark office</b> would be smart enough to realize that a 1987 <b>patent</b> expired in 2007.</p></div><p>They would have, but the guidebook is upside down.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and do n't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking .
Unfortunately the " novel " method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they 're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees , making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.Of course , one would hope that the Patent and Trademark office would be smart enough to realize that a 1987 patent expired in 2007.They would have , but the guidebook is upside down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but unfortunately they granted a patent on that in 1987 and don't have the money for the absurd licensing fee the patent holder is asking.
Unfortunately the "novel" method patented covers both clockwise and counterclockwise but they're currently looking into rotating them 179 degrees, making the document slightly slanted but avoiding royalties.Of course, one would hope that the Patent and Trademark office would be smart enough to realize that a 1987 patent expired in 2007.They would have, but the guidebook is upside down.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021986</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>Tisha\_AH</author>
	<datestamp>1265297460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A few years ago I worked for a CLEC (phone company) and we received ASR's (service requests) from other phone companies by FAX. It was all electronic documents that were automatically converted by OCR into a standard format.</p><p>On occasion we would get an ASR that was sent in upside down (top to bottom) and the OCR program could not cope with it. As we were only dealing with a few dozen of these a day it was easy to rotate the image as they were all stored in PDF format.</p><p>The patent office deals with hundreds or thousands of applications a day, some percentage come in by FAX. I imagine that either they do not want to spend the staff hours to rotate documents for storage or reading or this is a holdover from the bureaucratic, arcane ways of the patent process.</p><p>If you have ever filed a patent (successfully) you are aware that there are some weird requirements for formatting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A few years ago I worked for a CLEC ( phone company ) and we received ASR 's ( service requests ) from other phone companies by FAX .
It was all electronic documents that were automatically converted by OCR into a standard format.On occasion we would get an ASR that was sent in upside down ( top to bottom ) and the OCR program could not cope with it .
As we were only dealing with a few dozen of these a day it was easy to rotate the image as they were all stored in PDF format.The patent office deals with hundreds or thousands of applications a day , some percentage come in by FAX .
I imagine that either they do not want to spend the staff hours to rotate documents for storage or reading or this is a holdover from the bureaucratic , arcane ways of the patent process.If you have ever filed a patent ( successfully ) you are aware that there are some weird requirements for formatting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few years ago I worked for a CLEC (phone company) and we received ASR's (service requests) from other phone companies by FAX.
It was all electronic documents that were automatically converted by OCR into a standard format.On occasion we would get an ASR that was sent in upside down (top to bottom) and the OCR program could not cope with it.
As we were only dealing with a few dozen of these a day it was easy to rotate the image as they were all stored in PDF format.The patent office deals with hundreds or thousands of applications a day, some percentage come in by FAX.
I imagine that either they do not want to spend the staff hours to rotate documents for storage or reading or this is a holdover from the bureaucratic, arcane ways of the patent process.If you have ever filed a patent (successfully) you are aware that there are some weird requirements for formatting.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022476</id>
	<title>Re:Upside down or 180degrees?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265299860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TFA specifically shows the original letter which states "The faxed submission was received upside down. We are unable to continue processing these images."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA specifically shows the original letter which states " The faxed submission was received upside down .
We are unable to continue processing these images .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA specifically shows the original letter which states "The faxed submission was received upside down.
We are unable to continue processing these images.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025762</id>
	<title>Re:Post ideas here.</title>
	<author>jwhitener</author>
	<datestamp>1265316060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-759580.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-759580.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-759580.html</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021890</id>
	<title>Good first step</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now if they only would start to reject all the other patent submissions as well</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now if they only would start to reject all the other patent submissions as well</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now if they only would start to reject all the other patent submissions as well</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023478</id>
	<title>Re:This really should be filedd undeer "idle..</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1265304600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would be simpler and easier for all to rename "idle" section as "samzenpus" section.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be simpler and easier for all to rename " idle " section as " samzenpus " section .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be simpler and easier for all to rename "idle" section as "samzenpus" section.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31024474</id>
	<title>Down Under.</title>
	<author>Existential Wombat</author>
	<datestamp>1265309100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here in Asutralia we don't accept faxes not sent upside down.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Asutralia we do n't accept faxes not sent upside down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Asutralia we don't accept faxes not sent upside down.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31025440</id>
	<title>Am I missing something?</title>
	<author>pclminion</author>
	<datestamp>1265313840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uhhh.. What am I missing here? If they reject upside-down faxes, this must mean they can tell the difference between a fax which is upside-down and one which isn't. In which case, maybe there is some kind of solution, such as rotating the image 180 degrees?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhhh.. What am I missing here ?
If they reject upside-down faxes , this must mean they can tell the difference between a fax which is upside-down and one which is n't .
In which case , maybe there is some kind of solution , such as rotating the image 180 degrees ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhhh.. What am I missing here?
If they reject upside-down faxes, this must mean they can tell the difference between a fax which is upside-down and one which isn't.
In which case, maybe there is some kind of solution, such as rotating the image 180 degrees?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31022168</id>
	<title>Re:Call the whambulance!</title>
	<author>CajunArson</author>
	<datestamp>1265298300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While this rule may seem silly there is one good thing about the USPTO... NONE of your tax money is being wasted.  The USPTO is 100\% self funded by fees paid by customers.  In fact, Congress has actually stolen money that the USPTO gets from customers and used it for other (probably more wasteful) spending in the past, although this practice has been greatly reduced in recent years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While this rule may seem silly there is one good thing about the USPTO... NONE of your tax money is being wasted .
The USPTO is 100 \ % self funded by fees paid by customers .
In fact , Congress has actually stolen money that the USPTO gets from customers and used it for other ( probably more wasteful ) spending in the past , although this practice has been greatly reduced in recent years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While this rule may seem silly there is one good thing about the USPTO... NONE of your tax money is being wasted.
The USPTO is 100\% self funded by fees paid by customers.
In fact, Congress has actually stolen money that the USPTO gets from customers and used it for other (probably more wasteful) spending in the past, although this practice has been greatly reduced in recent years.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023556</id>
	<title>Re:My Personal War:</title>
	<author>Z00L00K</author>
	<datestamp>1265304900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And when I send a fax - how do I know if it is printed upside down or not at the receiving end? Not all faxes behaves the same way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And when I send a fax - how do I know if it is printed upside down or not at the receiving end ?
Not all faxes behaves the same way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And when I send a fax - how do I know if it is printed upside down or not at the receiving end?
Not all faxes behaves the same way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31023240</id>
	<title>Re:simple reason.</title>
	<author>khchung</author>
	<datestamp>1265303400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked on imaging systems a DECADE ago, and the hardware/software combo at that time already had <b>no problem</b> handling images scanned upside down, sideways, on both sides, etc.</p><p>Applying a little "techinal thinking" you will realize that it would be trivial for the OCR software to try rotating the document if it has problems recognizing the characters.  Hardware help is only needed in case of scanning both sides.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked on imaging systems a DECADE ago , and the hardware/software combo at that time already had no problem handling images scanned upside down , sideways , on both sides , etc.Applying a little " techinal thinking " you will realize that it would be trivial for the OCR software to try rotating the document if it has problems recognizing the characters .
Hardware help is only needed in case of scanning both sides .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked on imaging systems a DECADE ago, and the hardware/software combo at that time already had no problem handling images scanned upside down, sideways, on both sides, etc.Applying a little "techinal thinking" you will realize that it would be trivial for the OCR software to try rotating the document if it has problems recognizing the characters.
Hardware help is only needed in case of scanning both sides.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021502</id>
	<title>New application</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1265294880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That explains it.  I had submitted a process patent describing "the use of the 'rotate image' key as it relates to images that are the result of translation from a Facsimile transmission".  I thought it was unique and innovative since no one uses FAX any more, but it was rejected.  Similarly, my "application of human digits to vertically reorient sheets of paper that come out of a Facsimile machine in an undesired orientation" was also rejected.</p><p>My transmission must have been routed via Australia.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That explains it .
I had submitted a process patent describing " the use of the 'rotate image ' key as it relates to images that are the result of translation from a Facsimile transmission " .
I thought it was unique and innovative since no one uses FAX any more , but it was rejected .
Similarly , my " application of human digits to vertically reorient sheets of paper that come out of a Facsimile machine in an undesired orientation " was also rejected.My transmission must have been routed via Australia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That explains it.
I had submitted a process patent describing "the use of the 'rotate image' key as it relates to images that are the result of translation from a Facsimile transmission".
I thought it was unique and innovative since no one uses FAX any more, but it was rejected.
Similarly, my "application of human digits to vertically reorient sheets of paper that come out of a Facsimile machine in an undesired orientation" was also rejected.My transmission must have been routed via Australia.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_04_045243.31021832</id>
	<title>umop apisdn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265296680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Note the lack of reading comprehension in the replies here so far.<br>
<br>
To <b>automatically</b> detect that the document is upside down might also create false positives: documents that are right side up being flagged as being upside down.<br>
<br>
<br>
The title of this comment, "umop apisdn", is upside down. How many people caught that vs how many thought that it was gibberish?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Note the lack of reading comprehension in the replies here so far .
To automatically detect that the document is upside down might also create false positives : documents that are right side up being flagged as being upside down .
The title of this comment , " umop apisdn " , is upside down .
How many people caught that vs how many thought that it was gibberish ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Note the lack of reading comprehension in the replies here so far.
To automatically detect that the document is upside down might also create false positives: documents that are right side up being flagged as being upside down.
The title of this comment, "umop apisdn", is upside down.
How many people caught that vs how many thought that it was gibberish?</sentencetext>
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