<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_03_1630227</id>
	<title>Heavy Internet Use Linked To Depression</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1265215200000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"People who spend a lot of time surfing the internet are <a href="http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20100202/study-links-excessive-internet-use-to-depression.htm">more likely to show signs of depression</a>, British scientists said on Wednesday. These 'internet addicts' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and online communities, Morrison said. They also had a higher incidence of moderate to severe depression than normal users."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " People who spend a lot of time surfing the internet are more likely to show signs of depression , British scientists said on Wednesday .
These 'internet addicts ' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites , online gaming sites and online communities , Morrison said .
They also had a higher incidence of moderate to severe depression than normal users .
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<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "People who spend a lot of time surfing the internet are more likely to show signs of depression, British scientists said on Wednesday.
These 'internet addicts' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and online communities, Morrison said.
They also had a higher incidence of moderate to severe depression than normal users.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012896</id>
	<title>so wrong on so many.. or one.. level</title>
	<author>meglon</author>
	<datestamp>1264966020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"These 'internet addicts' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and online communities..."
<br> <br>
Ok, i know this is full of crap.  I mean, this implies there's anything to the web other than "sexually gratifying websites."  Give me a break, you can't fool us like that!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>" These 'internet addicts ' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites , online gaming sites and online communities... " Ok , i know this is full of crap .
I mean , this implies there 's anything to the web other than " sexually gratifying websites .
" Give me a break , you ca n't fool us like that !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"These 'internet addicts' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and online communities..."
 
Ok, i know this is full of crap.
I mean, this implies there's anything to the web other than "sexually gratifying websites.
"  Give me a break, you can't fool us like that!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013742</id>
	<title>Re:Comorbidity</title>
	<author>ajlisows</author>
	<datestamp>1264969860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's right.  Everything is from bad social conditioning. Back in the day people were just tougher.  Grandpa got oral cancer, he just rubbed some dirt on it and shook it off.  None of these fancy pants "Procedures" to "Cure" or "Alleviate the excruciating pain".  That is for today's generation of whiners.</p><p>Yeah, Grandpa died but he died a MAN.  Not someone all "boo hoo doctor, is there anything we can do?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's right .
Everything is from bad social conditioning .
Back in the day people were just tougher .
Grandpa got oral cancer , he just rubbed some dirt on it and shook it off .
None of these fancy pants " Procedures " to " Cure " or " Alleviate the excruciating pain " .
That is for today 's generation of whiners.Yeah , Grandpa died but he died a MAN .
Not someone all " boo hoo doctor , is there anything we can do ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's right.
Everything is from bad social conditioning.
Back in the day people were just tougher.
Grandpa got oral cancer, he just rubbed some dirt on it and shook it off.
None of these fancy pants "Procedures" to "Cure" or "Alleviate the excruciating pain".
That is for today's generation of whiners.Yeah, Grandpa died but he died a MAN.
Not someone all "boo hoo doctor, is there anything we can do?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011606</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>dintlu</author>
	<datestamp>1264960620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, that article is worthless and I don't know where I can find the actual paper.</p><p>While the article describes 1.2\% of Britons between 15 and 51 years of age as being "internet addicted, it does NOT tell us how much the likelihood of depression increases among those addicts when compared to non-addicts.</p><p>I don't see a discussion of depression rates by age or other socioeconomic factors, either.  People under the age of 30 are more likely to have been online their entire adult lives, people from wealthy families are likely to have been online sooner in life.  People over 40 have divided experience- life before the internet, and life after - examining the mental health history of this particular subset of study participants would be very illuminating.  I honestly would not be surprised if the study discusses all these factors and more.</p><p>This moment in history is the ONLY time we will have the opportunity to study differences between people who experienced life without the internet and people who have had access their entire lives, and it's a damned shame that these lousy newspapers distill such interesting science down to water cooler conversation points.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , that article is worthless and I do n't know where I can find the actual paper.While the article describes 1.2 \ % of Britons between 15 and 51 years of age as being " internet addicted , it does NOT tell us how much the likelihood of depression increases among those addicts when compared to non-addicts.I do n't see a discussion of depression rates by age or other socioeconomic factors , either .
People under the age of 30 are more likely to have been online their entire adult lives , people from wealthy families are likely to have been online sooner in life .
People over 40 have divided experience- life before the internet , and life after - examining the mental health history of this particular subset of study participants would be very illuminating .
I honestly would not be surprised if the study discusses all these factors and more.This moment in history is the ONLY time we will have the opportunity to study differences between people who experienced life without the internet and people who have had access their entire lives , and it 's a damned shame that these lousy newspapers distill such interesting science down to water cooler conversation points .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, that article is worthless and I don't know where I can find the actual paper.While the article describes 1.2\% of Britons between 15 and 51 years of age as being "internet addicted, it does NOT tell us how much the likelihood of depression increases among those addicts when compared to non-addicts.I don't see a discussion of depression rates by age or other socioeconomic factors, either.
People under the age of 30 are more likely to have been online their entire adult lives, people from wealthy families are likely to have been online sooner in life.
People over 40 have divided experience- life before the internet, and life after - examining the mental health history of this particular subset of study participants would be very illuminating.
I honestly would not be surprised if the study discusses all these factors and more.This moment in history is the ONLY time we will have the opportunity to study differences between people who experienced life without the internet and people who have had access their entire lives, and it's a damned shame that these lousy newspapers distill such interesting science down to water cooler conversation points.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011340</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011678</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe confusing cause and effect</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You make should be the doctor, you get it, the quak doesn't. This isn't even new and has been known for some time now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You make should be the doctor , you get it , the quak does n't .
This is n't even new and has been known for some time now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You make should be the doctor, you get it, the quak doesn't.
This isn't even new and has been known for some time now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013766</id>
	<title>Re:Cause or effect?</title>
	<author>psithurism</author>
	<datestamp>1264969980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Cause or effect?</p></div><p>They don't know! Thats what TFA says TWICE! Also why they don't say so in the summary and you need us to get that from the article for you.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Didn't RTFA</p></div><p>Thanks for admitting that though, there are long debates going on above where no one has read the article cept for my little addendum comments like this one.</p><p>BTW peoples this article is less than a page long.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cause or effect ? They do n't know !
Thats what TFA says TWICE !
Also why they do n't say so in the summary and you need us to get that from the article for you.Did n't RTFAThanks for admitting that though , there are long debates going on above where no one has read the article cept for my little addendum comments like this one.BTW peoples this article is less than a page long .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cause or effect?They don't know!
Thats what TFA says TWICE!
Also why they don't say so in the summary and you need us to get that from the article for you.Didn't RTFAThanks for admitting that though, there are long debates going on above where no one has read the article cept for my little addendum comments like this one.BTW peoples this article is less than a page long.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011448</id>
	<title>Anti social</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find my internet use helps keep me from having to interact with people face to face or on the phone.  I'm all for it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find my internet use helps keep me from having to interact with people face to face or on the phone .
I 'm all for it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find my internet use helps keep me from having to interact with people face to face or on the phone.
I'm all for it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011524</id>
	<title>There could be a link to sleep patterns</title>
	<author>HikingStick</author>
	<datestamp>1264960260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It will be interesting to see if the study examined sleep patterns of those who use the Internet to a far greater degree than others.  Lack of sleep over an extended period of time has been linked to depression in many studies.  Thus, the Internet surfing behaviors could be causing the subjects to get less sleep, thereby increasing the likelihood that they experience depression.  The validity of the claim will come down to how well the study authors controlled for other variables, the overal validity of their methods, and whether or not other groups can replicate the results.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It will be interesting to see if the study examined sleep patterns of those who use the Internet to a far greater degree than others .
Lack of sleep over an extended period of time has been linked to depression in many studies .
Thus , the Internet surfing behaviors could be causing the subjects to get less sleep , thereby increasing the likelihood that they experience depression .
The validity of the claim will come down to how well the study authors controlled for other variables , the overal validity of their methods , and whether or not other groups can replicate the results .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will be interesting to see if the study examined sleep patterns of those who use the Internet to a far greater degree than others.
Lack of sleep over an extended period of time has been linked to depression in many studies.
Thus, the Internet surfing behaviors could be causing the subjects to get less sleep, thereby increasing the likelihood that they experience depression.
The validity of the claim will come down to how well the study authors controlled for other variables, the overal validity of their methods, and whether or not other groups can replicate the results.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31015168</id>
	<title>Re:The internet is depressing?</title>
	<author>Random Data</author>
	<datestamp>1264934040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slashdot people's cat porn. Now I'm horrified. And depressed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot people 's cat porn .
Now I 'm horrified .
And depressed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot people's cat porn.
Now I'm horrified.
And depressed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011518</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012318</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe confusing cause and effect</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1264963260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe you are too stupid to read?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe you are too stupid to read ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe you are too stupid to read?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012260</id>
	<title>This story reminds me of</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264963020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"there are lies, damned lies and statistics"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" there are lies , damned lies and statistics "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"there are lies, damned lies and statistics"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011340</id>
	<title>The next line states...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.</i></p><p>So, what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions.  Nothing to see here, move along</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.So , what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions .
Nothing to see here , move along</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.So, what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions.
Nothing to see here, move along</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011534</id>
	<title>it could be worse</title>
	<author>MooseTick</author>
	<datestamp>1264960320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"'internet addicts' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites"</p><p>Think how depressed they would be if they went to websites that weren't "sexually gratifying"!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" 'internet addicts ' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites " Think how depressed they would be if they went to websites that were n't " sexually gratifying " !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"'internet addicts' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites"Think how depressed they would be if they went to websites that weren't "sexually gratifying"!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31019070</id>
	<title>I would be an anomaly in this study, then</title>
	<author>mykos</author>
	<datestamp>1264961160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the hell?  I LOVE my life and I do all the activities described in the summary.  Maybe I'm an anomaly, or just a satisfied underachiever.  But I think I'm better off than those super-driven guys who almost never achieve happiness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the hell ?
I LOVE my life and I do all the activities described in the summary .
Maybe I 'm an anomaly , or just a satisfied underachiever .
But I think I 'm better off than those super-driven guys who almost never achieve happiness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the hell?
I LOVE my life and I do all the activities described in the summary.
Maybe I'm an anomaly, or just a satisfied underachiever.
But I think I'm better off than those super-driven guys who almost never achieve happiness.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011844</id>
	<title>Binky</title>
	<author>proslack</author>
	<datestamp>1264961580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reminds me of an old "Life in Hell" where <a href="http://cdn.okcimg.com/php/load\_okc\_image.php/images/1x1/500x1000/0x0/0x0/0/5707554005897562601" title="okcimg.com">Binky</a> [okcimg.com] has a choice between being Smart or Happy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of an old " Life in Hell " where Binky [ okcimg.com ] has a choice between being Smart or Happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of an old "Life in Hell" where Binky [okcimg.com] has a choice between being Smart or Happy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011948</id>
	<title>Actual paper is behind paywall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264962000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>But you can read the <a href="http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowAbstract&amp;ArtikelNr=277001&amp;Ausgabe=253793&amp;ProduktNr=224276" title="karger.com" rel="nofollow">abstract</a> [karger.com] for free.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But you can read the abstract [ karger.com ] for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But you can read the abstract [karger.com] for free.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31015656</id>
	<title>Woah, wait a minute.</title>
	<author>Normal Dan</author>
	<datestamp>1264936200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, I've read through the comments on this topic and from what I'm getting is that correlation is NOT causation?  Please explain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , I 've read through the comments on this topic and from what I 'm getting is that correlation is NOT causation ?
Please explain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, I've read through the comments on this topic and from what I'm getting is that correlation is NOT causation?
Please explain.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012406</id>
	<title>Misleading?</title>
	<author>bdabautcb</author>
	<datestamp>1264963620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Would not this better be stated as 'people with higher instances of moderate to severe depression are more likely to spend time browsing sexually gratifying websites, gaming sites, and online communities'?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would not this better be stated as 'people with higher instances of moderate to severe depression are more likely to spend time browsing sexually gratifying websites , gaming sites , and online communities ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would not this better be stated as 'people with higher instances of moderate to severe depression are more likely to spend time browsing sexually gratifying websites, gaming sites, and online communities'?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011772</id>
	<title>work</title>
	<author>crsuperman34</author>
	<datestamp>1264961280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm a graphic designer, it is REQUIRED that I sit on the internet 8+ hours a day gathering pdf's, emails, stock photography, free vector files, keeping up with social trends, web design, email design and taking short breaks browsing to 'switch' my mind to the next job. When I get home--by habit gained at the workplace--I check the news... cnn.com, salon.com, washington post and also prone to check facebook.

So it is my job requiring me to be online which will eventually make me depressed.  Seems that could be a legit argument against your workplace insurance in covering medical bills and could have even further repercussion?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a graphic designer , it is REQUIRED that I sit on the internet 8 + hours a day gathering pdf 's , emails , stock photography , free vector files , keeping up with social trends , web design , email design and taking short breaks browsing to 'switch ' my mind to the next job .
When I get home--by habit gained at the workplace--I check the news... cnn.com , salon.com , washington post and also prone to check facebook .
So it is my job requiring me to be online which will eventually make me depressed .
Seems that could be a legit argument against your workplace insurance in covering medical bills and could have even further repercussion ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a graphic designer, it is REQUIRED that I sit on the internet 8+ hours a day gathering pdf's, emails, stock photography, free vector files, keeping up with social trends, web design, email design and taking short breaks browsing to 'switch' my mind to the next job.
When I get home--by habit gained at the workplace--I check the news... cnn.com, salon.com, washington post and also prone to check facebook.
So it is my job requiring me to be online which will eventually make me depressed.
Seems that could be a legit argument against your workplace insurance in covering medical bills and could have even further repercussion?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012370</id>
	<title>Re:Chickens lay eggs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264963380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>All stereotypes have some basis in reality, so if we consider a significant fraction of internet users to be fat, ugly, borderline autistic, Cheetos and Doritos crunching, Mountain Dew swilling, World of Warcraft playing dweebs who <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/02/02/2124203" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">used to get beat up in high school</a> [slashdot.org], then we can see how an activity that allows relative anonymity and essentially zero repercussions would attract this type of user. In turn, this type of user would tend towards clinical depression due to their social awkwardness and isolation.</p></div><p>The becomming a "fat, ugly, borderline autistic, Cheetos and Doritos crunching, Mountain Dew swilling, World of Warcraft playing dweeb" is also a result of being a social outcast, not a cause.</p><p>If you don't understand the people around you, and you don't care about them. Then you don't care how they see you. Life just becomes a blur, and the Internet is just a way to pass time. In my case, I couldn't feel emotions, at least, I couldn't feel 80\% or so of them. And that makes you socially awkward and an easy target. Your view of the world is totally different from the rest of the people. And on the Internet people don't notice that.</p><p>For me it's all changed now. I don't know how, but it did. It's wierd to turn 26 and notice everything around you is different then you thought it was. It's wierd to fall in love for the first time when you are 25. But I'm glad it happened at all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>All stereotypes have some basis in reality , so if we consider a significant fraction of internet users to be fat , ugly , borderline autistic , Cheetos and Doritos crunching , Mountain Dew swilling , World of Warcraft playing dweebs who used to get beat up in high school [ slashdot.org ] , then we can see how an activity that allows relative anonymity and essentially zero repercussions would attract this type of user .
In turn , this type of user would tend towards clinical depression due to their social awkwardness and isolation.The becomming a " fat , ugly , borderline autistic , Cheetos and Doritos crunching , Mountain Dew swilling , World of Warcraft playing dweeb " is also a result of being a social outcast , not a cause.If you do n't understand the people around you , and you do n't care about them .
Then you do n't care how they see you .
Life just becomes a blur , and the Internet is just a way to pass time .
In my case , I could n't feel emotions , at least , I could n't feel 80 \ % or so of them .
And that makes you socially awkward and an easy target .
Your view of the world is totally different from the rest of the people .
And on the Internet people do n't notice that.For me it 's all changed now .
I do n't know how , but it did .
It 's wierd to turn 26 and notice everything around you is different then you thought it was .
It 's wierd to fall in love for the first time when you are 25 .
But I 'm glad it happened at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All stereotypes have some basis in reality, so if we consider a significant fraction of internet users to be fat, ugly, borderline autistic, Cheetos and Doritos crunching, Mountain Dew swilling, World of Warcraft playing dweebs who used to get beat up in high school [slashdot.org], then we can see how an activity that allows relative anonymity and essentially zero repercussions would attract this type of user.
In turn, this type of user would tend towards clinical depression due to their social awkwardness and isolation.The becomming a "fat, ugly, borderline autistic, Cheetos and Doritos crunching, Mountain Dew swilling, World of Warcraft playing dweeb" is also a result of being a social outcast, not a cause.If you don't understand the people around you, and you don't care about them.
Then you don't care how they see you.
Life just becomes a blur, and the Internet is just a way to pass time.
In my case, I couldn't feel emotions, at least, I couldn't feel 80\% or so of them.
And that makes you socially awkward and an easy target.
Your view of the world is totally different from the rest of the people.
And on the Internet people don't notice that.For me it's all changed now.
I don't know how, but it did.
It's wierd to turn 26 and notice everything around you is different then you thought it was.
It's wierd to fall in love for the first time when you are 25.
But I'm glad it happened at all.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011434</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013124</id>
	<title>Depression linked do heavy Internet use.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1264967040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think mine is more likely.</p><p>But hey, the other way around is so much more useful, since it&rsquo;s supporting the doctrines of the &ldquo;censor everything we don&rsquo;t understand&rdquo; crowd, right?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/</p><p>Also, depression is not a disease. And it never will be. (Buy hey, that&rsquo;s what you get when you ask &ldquo;doctors&rdquo;.)<br>It&rsquo;s a <em>symptom</em> of something. Which itself can be called a disease.</p><p>1. Find all the causes (in case of an active repression, use a really deep therapy). Food, pollution, social stress, genes, etc.<br>2. Remove/fix the causes, if possible. Or simulate removal so that it&rsquo;s the same for the brain. (Start of processing.)<br>3. Re-train associations that went haywire as a result of the bad influence. (Re-learning processing.)<br>4.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... (Be patient!)<br>5. HEALTH!<br>Only exception: Genetic diseases which can&rsquo;t be healed YET (but will be, as soon as gene therapy is usable for it). For those you&rsquo;d of course need &ldquo;symptom ignorers&rdquo; (like painkillers) complete replacements (like artificial hearts, etc).</p><p>Conclusion: Yeah, just keep ignoring the real causes, and find a scapegoat like &ldquo;teh Intarnetz! OMGWTFBBQ!!!1!one&rsquo;.</p><p>Sometimes I wonder: When someone would constantly run against a wall, head first, would they blame his headache on the Internet too...?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think mine is more likely.But hey , the other way around is so much more useful , since it    s supporting the doctrines of the    censor everything we don    t understand    crowd , right ?
: /Also , depression is not a disease .
And it never will be .
( Buy hey , that    s what you get when you ask    doctors    .
) It    s a symptom of something .
Which itself can be called a disease.1 .
Find all the causes ( in case of an active repression , use a really deep therapy ) .
Food , pollution , social stress , genes , etc.2 .
Remove/fix the causes , if possible .
Or simulate removal so that it    s the same for the brain .
( Start of processing. ) 3 .
Re-train associations that went haywire as a result of the bad influence .
( Re-learning processing. ) 4 .
... ( Be patient ! ) 5 .
HEALTH ! Only exception : Genetic diseases which can    t be healed YET ( but will be , as soon as gene therapy is usable for it ) .
For those you    d of course need    symptom ignorers    ( like painkillers ) complete replacements ( like artificial hearts , etc ) .Conclusion : Yeah , just keep ignoring the real causes , and find a scapegoat like    teh Intarnetz !
OMGWTFBBQ ! ! ! 1 ! one    .Sometimes I wonder : When someone would constantly run against a wall , head first , would they blame his headache on the Internet too... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think mine is more likely.But hey, the other way around is so much more useful, since it’s supporting the doctrines of the “censor everything we don’t understand” crowd, right?
:/Also, depression is not a disease.
And it never will be.
(Buy hey, that’s what you get when you ask “doctors”.
)It’s a symptom of something.
Which itself can be called a disease.1.
Find all the causes (in case of an active repression, use a really deep therapy).
Food, pollution, social stress, genes, etc.2.
Remove/fix the causes, if possible.
Or simulate removal so that it’s the same for the brain.
(Start of processing.)3.
Re-train associations that went haywire as a result of the bad influence.
(Re-learning processing.)4.
... (Be patient!)5.
HEALTH!Only exception: Genetic diseases which can’t be healed YET (but will be, as soon as gene therapy is usable for it).
For those you’d of course need “symptom ignorers” (like painkillers) complete replacements (like artificial hearts, etc).Conclusion: Yeah, just keep ignoring the real causes, and find a scapegoat like “teh Intarnetz!
OMGWTFBBQ!!!1!one’.Sometimes I wonder: When someone would constantly run against a wall, head first, would they blame his headache on the Internet too...?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012108</id>
	<title>Duh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264962480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's too much truth on the internet. If you're constantly faced with all the harsh realities of the world several inches in front of your face, on a regular basis, you're probably going to get depressed too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's too much truth on the internet .
If you 're constantly faced with all the harsh realities of the world several inches in front of your face , on a regular basis , you 're probably going to get depressed too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's too much truth on the internet.
If you're constantly faced with all the harsh realities of the world several inches in front of your face, on a regular basis, you're probably going to get depressed too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011398</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seconded. Could it be that perhaps people are depressed by not getting the attention they desire and thus go to the internet for it? The study is a failure if it finds both ends of the argument plausible and no concrete evidence for either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seconded .
Could it be that perhaps people are depressed by not getting the attention they desire and thus go to the internet for it ?
The study is a failure if it finds both ends of the argument plausible and no concrete evidence for either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seconded.
Could it be that perhaps people are depressed by not getting the attention they desire and thus go to the internet for it?
The study is a failure if it finds both ends of the argument plausible and no concrete evidence for either.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011340</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012562</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264964280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...the sky is blue, birds fly, and water is wet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...the sky is blue , birds fly , and water is wet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the sky is blue, birds fly, and water is wet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011328</id>
	<title>I'll say...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>have you SEEN what's on there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>have you SEEN what 's on there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>have you SEEN what's on there?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014610</id>
	<title>maybe the correlation is wrong</title>
	<author>jsepeta</author>
	<datestamp>1264931220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>perhaps people who are depressed and lonely and bored look to the internet for ways to make themselves feel better. why should this be surprising?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>perhaps people who are depressed and lonely and bored look to the internet for ways to make themselves feel better .
why should this be surprising ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>perhaps people who are depressed and lonely and bored look to the internet for ways to make themselves feel better.
why should this be surprising?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31017436</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264945620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if... what if autism causes vaccines!</p><p>I think I might be onto something here, time to call the President of Science</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if... what if autism causes vaccines ! I think I might be onto something here , time to call the President of Science</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if... what if autism causes vaccines!I think I might be onto something here, time to call the President of Science</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012374</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011692</id>
	<title>Hypothesis to investigate ...</title>
	<author>Spectre</author>
	<datestamp>1264960980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People unhappy with their relationship status surf for porn<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People unhappy with their relationship status surf for porn .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People unhappy with their relationship status surf for porn ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012706</id>
	<title>4chan</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264965060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think this has something to do with<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/B/</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this has something to do with /B/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this has something to do with /B/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011940</id>
	<title>Unavoidable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264962000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've wasted my life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've wasted my life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've wasted my life.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31018130</id>
	<title>Re:Alternate theory</title>
	<author>1s44c</author>
	<datestamp>1264951320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No, I think the reason I, personally, am depressed is because I'm a heavy internet user and I'm stuck living in <b>FUCKING CENTRAL KENTUCKY.</b> </p></div><p>If you don't like where you live feel free to move. You have the whole US to choose from and the whole world if you want to face visa requirements.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I think the reason I , personally , am depressed is because I 'm a heavy internet user and I 'm stuck living in FUCKING CENTRAL KENTUCKY .
If you do n't like where you live feel free to move .
You have the whole US to choose from and the whole world if you want to face visa requirements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I think the reason I, personally, am depressed is because I'm a heavy internet user and I'm stuck living in FUCKING CENTRAL KENTUCKY.
If you don't like where you live feel free to move.
You have the whole US to choose from and the whole world if you want to face visa requirements.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011760</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012806</id>
	<title>Re:WARNING: This is British sciene reporting</title>
	<author>digitig</author>
	<datestamp>1264965480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is the International Edition of the International Business Times "British science reporting" in the sense you mean, or are you simply as confused over the difference between "British science-reporting" and "British-science reporting" as you are over the meaning of "incredulously"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is the International Edition of the International Business Times " British science reporting " in the sense you mean , or are you simply as confused over the difference between " British science-reporting " and " British-science reporting " as you are over the meaning of " incredulously " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is the International Edition of the International Business Times "British science reporting" in the sense you mean, or are you simply as confused over the difference between "British science-reporting" and "British-science reporting" as you are over the meaning of "incredulously"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011632</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013158</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264967220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I know bad weather is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I know bad weather is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I know bad weather is.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012332</id>
	<title>Maybe it's time</title>
	<author>mosb1000</author>
	<datestamp>1264963320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe it's time to stop visiting Slashdot so much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it 's time to stop visiting Slashdot so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it's time to stop visiting Slashdot so much.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012012</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>gstoddart</author>
	<datestamp>1264962180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The study is a failure if it finds both ends of the argument plausible and no concrete evidence for either.</p></div></blockquote><p>Dude, did you even <em>read</em> TFA???  Take these three sentences<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p><blockquote><div><p>People who spend a lot of time surfing the internet are more likely to show signs of depression, British scientists said on Wednesday.</p><p>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.</p><p>"Excessive internet use is associated with depression, but what we don't know is which comes first -- are depressed people drawn to the internet or does the internet cause depression?"</p></div></blockquote><p>All they have said is that people who spend a large amount of time on the internet might also correlate with depressed people, and that people should look out for it.</p><p>They <em>absolutely</em> find both ends of the argument plausible, and explicitly said so.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The study is a failure if it finds both ends of the argument plausible and no concrete evidence for either.Dude , did you even read TFA ? ? ?
Take these three sentences ....People who spend a lot of time surfing the internet are more likely to show signs of depression , British scientists said on Wednesday.But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it .
" Excessive internet use is associated with depression , but what we do n't know is which comes first -- are depressed people drawn to the internet or does the internet cause depression ?
" All they have said is that people who spend a large amount of time on the internet might also correlate with depressed people , and that people should look out for it.They absolutely find both ends of the argument plausible , and explicitly said so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The study is a failure if it finds both ends of the argument plausible and no concrete evidence for either.Dude, did you even read TFA???
Take these three sentences ....People who spend a lot of time surfing the internet are more likely to show signs of depression, British scientists said on Wednesday.But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.
"Excessive internet use is associated with depression, but what we don't know is which comes first -- are depressed people drawn to the internet or does the internet cause depression?
"All they have said is that people who spend a large amount of time on the internet might also correlate with depressed people, and that people should look out for it.They absolutely find both ends of the argument plausible, and explicitly said so.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012448</id>
	<title>Surprise</title>
	<author>srleffler</author>
	<datestamp>1264963800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lonely people are more likely to be depressed <em>and</em> to spend time on the internet, and they spend proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and visiting online communities. No surprise there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lonely people are more likely to be depressed and to spend time on the internet , and they spend proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites , online gaming sites and visiting online communities .
No surprise there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lonely people are more likely to be depressed and to spend time on the internet, and they spend proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and visiting online communities.
No surprise there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011470</id>
	<title>Another meaningless survey</title>
	<author>derek\_m</author>
	<datestamp>1264960080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rather meaningless really. Of the 1319 responses to an online questionaire 1.2\% (yes, thats a whole 16 people) were deemed to be "addicts". "Many" of those were deemed to be depressed. Whats that a whole 10 people?</p><p>Noone ever answers these things less than 100\% honestly, do they?</p><p>Smells more like they asked their questions, stated the conclusions they were hoping to prove but failed utterly at having the data to back them up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rather meaningless really .
Of the 1319 responses to an online questionaire 1.2 \ % ( yes , thats a whole 16 people ) were deemed to be " addicts " .
" Many " of those were deemed to be depressed .
Whats that a whole 10 people ? Noone ever answers these things less than 100 \ % honestly , do they ? Smells more like they asked their questions , stated the conclusions they were hoping to prove but failed utterly at having the data to back them up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rather meaningless really.
Of the 1319 responses to an online questionaire 1.2\% (yes, thats a whole 16 people) were deemed to be "addicts".
"Many" of those were deemed to be depressed.
Whats that a whole 10 people?Noone ever answers these things less than 100\% honestly, do they?Smells more like they asked their questions, stated the conclusions they were hoping to prove but failed utterly at having the data to back them up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011572</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Mal-2</author>
	<datestamp>1264960500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Duh. Depressed people generally want to avoid social interaction, or take it in short bursts at their own pace as it suits them. The Internet is perfect for this. The excessive time spent online is a symptom, not a cause.</p><p>Mal-2</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Duh .
Depressed people generally want to avoid social interaction , or take it in short bursts at their own pace as it suits them .
The Internet is perfect for this .
The excessive time spent online is a symptom , not a cause.Mal-2</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Duh.
Depressed people generally want to avoid social interaction, or take it in short bursts at their own pace as it suits them.
The Internet is perfect for this.
The excessive time spent online is a symptom, not a cause.Mal-2</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011340</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012434</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>lastgoodnickname</author>
	<datestamp>1264963740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>hehehe you said tit</htmltext>
<tokenext>hehehe you said tit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hehehe you said tit</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011518</id>
	<title>The internet is depressing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How can the internet be depressing? There's pictures of people's cats, Slashdot, and porn. Is there anything else that I don't know about?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How can the internet be depressing ?
There 's pictures of people 's cats , Slashdot , and porn .
Is there anything else that I do n't know about ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can the internet be depressing?
There's pictures of people's cats, Slashdot, and porn.
Is there anything else that I don't know about?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011916</id>
	<title>Proof</title>
	<author>moteyalpha</author>
	<datestamp>1264961880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>&lt;a href="Depression"&gt;Heavy Internet usage.&lt;/a&gt;</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heavy Internet usage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heavy Internet usage.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012112</id>
	<title>Hmmm....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264962480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"These 'internet addicts' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites..."</p><p>Funny, online porn never gets me down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" These 'internet addicts ' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites... " Funny , online porn never gets me down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"These 'internet addicts' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites..."Funny, online porn never gets me down.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013422</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>ajlisows</author>
	<datestamp>1264968240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey!  IWOARB!  (I was once a real Biochemist).  Degree and all.  I would say you are correct in that those types of things (Especially online gaming with constant "I leveled up" or "I got shiny new armor" will trigger some dopamine feedback.  Of course, it probably will also tickle serotonin a bit and of course any change in Dopamine usually triggers a change in GABA.</p><p>It is probably important to note that it is not just online games and drugs that increase Dopamine activity.  Having a good time/accomplishing something in real life will do so as well.</p><p>I've had a pet theory for awhile...total unsubstantiated and since I'm out of the field...it is not something that I will be able to test scientifically.  I think the current psychiatric treatment method of "Depressed?  Take these SSRI's" is a poor plan.  The person may not have any issues with their Serotonin (But very well might after you give them drugs to mess with it!)  Their depression may be more dopamine related, their anxiety may be more GABA related...whatever.  Find out what things (there is usually at least one thing) that makes them feel ok.  Often it will be an illicit drug or some type of impulsive activity.  Examine what it is that makes them feel better, and pick an "Anti-Depressant" from there.  Perhaps they do need an SSRI.  Perhaps they need a dopamine fix that Provigil can provide.  Perhaps they need a GABA fix that Benzodiazapines can provide.  I know that some SSRI's (Effexor, for one) does help a bit with other Neurotransmitters but I think we need to try to direct treatment at single neutrotransmitters (other than just Serotonin) and see how that works out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey !
IWOARB ! ( I was once a real Biochemist ) .
Degree and all .
I would say you are correct in that those types of things ( Especially online gaming with constant " I leveled up " or " I got shiny new armor " will trigger some dopamine feedback .
Of course , it probably will also tickle serotonin a bit and of course any change in Dopamine usually triggers a change in GABA.It is probably important to note that it is not just online games and drugs that increase Dopamine activity .
Having a good time/accomplishing something in real life will do so as well.I 've had a pet theory for awhile...total unsubstantiated and since I 'm out of the field...it is not something that I will be able to test scientifically .
I think the current psychiatric treatment method of " Depressed ?
Take these SSRI 's " is a poor plan .
The person may not have any issues with their Serotonin ( But very well might after you give them drugs to mess with it !
) Their depression may be more dopamine related , their anxiety may be more GABA related...whatever .
Find out what things ( there is usually at least one thing ) that makes them feel ok. Often it will be an illicit drug or some type of impulsive activity .
Examine what it is that makes them feel better , and pick an " Anti-Depressant " from there .
Perhaps they do need an SSRI .
Perhaps they need a dopamine fix that Provigil can provide .
Perhaps they need a GABA fix that Benzodiazapines can provide .
I know that some SSRI 's ( Effexor , for one ) does help a bit with other Neurotransmitters but I think we need to try to direct treatment at single neutrotransmitters ( other than just Serotonin ) and see how that works out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey!
IWOARB!  (I was once a real Biochemist).
Degree and all.
I would say you are correct in that those types of things (Especially online gaming with constant "I leveled up" or "I got shiny new armor" will trigger some dopamine feedback.
Of course, it probably will also tickle serotonin a bit and of course any change in Dopamine usually triggers a change in GABA.It is probably important to note that it is not just online games and drugs that increase Dopamine activity.
Having a good time/accomplishing something in real life will do so as well.I've had a pet theory for awhile...total unsubstantiated and since I'm out of the field...it is not something that I will be able to test scientifically.
I think the current psychiatric treatment method of "Depressed?
Take these SSRI's" is a poor plan.
The person may not have any issues with their Serotonin (But very well might after you give them drugs to mess with it!
)  Their depression may be more dopamine related, their anxiety may be more GABA related...whatever.
Find out what things (there is usually at least one thing) that makes them feel ok.  Often it will be an illicit drug or some type of impulsive activity.
Examine what it is that makes them feel better, and pick an "Anti-Depressant" from there.
Perhaps they do need an SSRI.
Perhaps they need a dopamine fix that Provigil can provide.
Perhaps they need a GABA fix that Benzodiazapines can provide.
I know that some SSRI's (Effexor, for one) does help a bit with other Neurotransmitters but I think we need to try to direct treatment at single neutrotransmitters (other than just Serotonin) and see how that works out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012136</id>
	<title>Scientists suck.</title>
	<author>Miv333</author>
	<datestamp>1264962540000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Scientist Miv333 says "bleeding is a likely cause of being stabbed" and "cancer is a likely cause of smoking."


Some of these scientists today, need to learn some objectiveness.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Scientist Miv333 says " bleeding is a likely cause of being stabbed " and " cancer is a likely cause of smoking .
" Some of these scientists today , need to learn some objectiveness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scientist Miv333 says "bleeding is a likely cause of being stabbed" and "cancer is a likely cause of smoking.
"


Some of these scientists today, need to learn some objectiveness.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012590</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>memnock</author>
	<datestamp>1264964400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>their results found 1.4\% of study subject affected. you could probably find 1.4\% of Internet addicted people are clergy. or moms. or happy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>their results found 1.4 \ % of study subject affected .
you could probably find 1.4 \ % of Internet addicted people are clergy .
or moms .
or happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>their results found 1.4\% of study subject affected.
you could probably find 1.4\% of Internet addicted people are clergy.
or moms.
or happy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011538</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Emb3rz</author>
	<datestamp>1264960320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and online communities</p></div><p>All of which would likely increase activity of which neuro-transmitter? Did anyone say dopamine? And what else increases dopamine activity? <em>More witches!</em> Err, no. Certain classes of drugs, illicit or otherwise. And depression is provably related to imbalances in norepinephrine, serotonin and <strong>dopamine</strong>. I'd love to get a real biologist's take on this research.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>browsing sexually gratifying websites , online gaming sites and online communitiesAll of which would likely increase activity of which neuro-transmitter ?
Did anyone say dopamine ?
And what else increases dopamine activity ?
More witches !
Err , no .
Certain classes of drugs , illicit or otherwise .
And depression is provably related to imbalances in norepinephrine , serotonin and dopamine .
I 'd love to get a real biologist 's take on this research .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and online communitiesAll of which would likely increase activity of which neuro-transmitter?
Did anyone say dopamine?
And what else increases dopamine activity?
More witches!
Err, no.
Certain classes of drugs, illicit or otherwise.
And depression is provably related to imbalances in norepinephrine, serotonin and dopamine.
I'd love to get a real biologist's take on this research.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011434</id>
	<title>Chickens lay eggs</title>
	<author>BadAnalogyGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1264960020000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>It takes a chicken to lay a chicken egg.</p><p>So if internet usage is indicative of depression, then it stands to reason that people who are prone to depression (social outcasts for one) would be inordinately engaged in that type of activity. The flow isn't internet leads to depression but rather that depression leads to internet.</p><p>All stereotypes have some basis in reality, so if we consider a significant fraction of internet users to be fat, ugly, borderline autistic, Cheetos and Doritos crunching, Mountain Dew swilling, World of Warcraft playing dweebs who <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/02/02/2124203" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">used to get beat up in high school</a> [slashdot.org], then we can see how an activity that allows relative anonymity and essentially zero repercussions would attract this type of user. In turn, this type of user would tend towards clinical depression due to their social awkwardness and isolation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It takes a chicken to lay a chicken egg.So if internet usage is indicative of depression , then it stands to reason that people who are prone to depression ( social outcasts for one ) would be inordinately engaged in that type of activity .
The flow is n't internet leads to depression but rather that depression leads to internet.All stereotypes have some basis in reality , so if we consider a significant fraction of internet users to be fat , ugly , borderline autistic , Cheetos and Doritos crunching , Mountain Dew swilling , World of Warcraft playing dweebs who used to get beat up in high school [ slashdot.org ] , then we can see how an activity that allows relative anonymity and essentially zero repercussions would attract this type of user .
In turn , this type of user would tend towards clinical depression due to their social awkwardness and isolation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It takes a chicken to lay a chicken egg.So if internet usage is indicative of depression, then it stands to reason that people who are prone to depression (social outcasts for one) would be inordinately engaged in that type of activity.
The flow isn't internet leads to depression but rather that depression leads to internet.All stereotypes have some basis in reality, so if we consider a significant fraction of internet users to be fat, ugly, borderline autistic, Cheetos and Doritos crunching, Mountain Dew swilling, World of Warcraft playing dweebs who used to get beat up in high school [slashdot.org], then we can see how an activity that allows relative anonymity and essentially zero repercussions would attract this type of user.
In turn, this type of user would tend towards clinical depression due to their social awkwardness and isolation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013956</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>Putr</author>
	<datestamp>1264971000000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's a third possibility which the article fails to consider: rather than one causing the other, perhaps both are caused by something else. For example, the person who has difficulty forming satisfying sexual relationships is perhaps likely to get depressed about that <em>and</em> to spend "proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites". The whole thing gets muddy, because that can then form a feedback loop.</p></div><p>Are you talking about me? No seriously how do you know that about me?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a third possibility which the article fails to consider : rather than one causing the other , perhaps both are caused by something else .
For example , the person who has difficulty forming satisfying sexual relationships is perhaps likely to get depressed about that and to spend " proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites " .
The whole thing gets muddy , because that can then form a feedback loop.Are you talking about me ?
No seriously how do you know that about me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a third possibility which the article fails to consider: rather than one causing the other, perhaps both are caused by something else.
For example, the person who has difficulty forming satisfying sexual relationships is perhaps likely to get depressed about that and to spend "proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites".
The whole thing gets muddy, because that can then form a feedback loop.Are you talking about me?
No seriously how do you know that about me?
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	<title>The more I read about this...</title>
	<author>MooseTick</author>
	<datestamp>1264969500000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>The more I read about this, the worse it makes me feel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The more I read about this , the worse it makes me feel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The more I read about this, the worse it makes me feel.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011922</id>
	<title>Check some facts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264961940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Check some facts....</p><p>http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2010/02/the\_internet\_depres.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check some facts....http : //www.mindhacks.com/blog/2010/02/the \ _internet \ _depres.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check some facts....http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2010/02/the\_internet\_depres.html</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013762</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>Darinbob</author>
	<datestamp>1264969980000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Stories like this make me cry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stories like this make me cry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stories like this make me cry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012568</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>digitig</author>
	<datestamp>1264964280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>A question asked in the RA. '"Excessive internet use is associated with depression, but what we don't know is which comes first -- are depressed people drawn to the internet or does the internet cause depression?," Morrison said.'</p><p>There's a third possibility which the article fails to consider: rather than one causing the other, perhaps both are caused by something else. For example, the person who has difficulty forming satisfying sexual relationships is perhaps likely to get depressed about that <em>and</em> to spend "proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites". The whole thing gets muddy, because that can then form a feedback loop.</p><p>Obligatory <a href="http://xkcd.com/552/" title="xkcd.com">link</a> [xkcd.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A question asked in the RA .
' " Excessive internet use is associated with depression , but what we do n't know is which comes first -- are depressed people drawn to the internet or does the internet cause depression ? , " Morrison said .
'There 's a third possibility which the article fails to consider : rather than one causing the other , perhaps both are caused by something else .
For example , the person who has difficulty forming satisfying sexual relationships is perhaps likely to get depressed about that and to spend " proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites " .
The whole thing gets muddy , because that can then form a feedback loop.Obligatory link [ xkcd.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A question asked in the RA.
'"Excessive internet use is associated with depression, but what we don't know is which comes first -- are depressed people drawn to the internet or does the internet cause depression?," Morrison said.
'There's a third possibility which the article fails to consider: rather than one causing the other, perhaps both are caused by something else.
For example, the person who has difficulty forming satisfying sexual relationships is perhaps likely to get depressed about that and to spend "proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites".
The whole thing gets muddy, because that can then form a feedback loop.Obligatory link [xkcd.com].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011444</id>
	<title>Re:Cause or effect?</title>
	<author>HikingStick</author>
	<datestamp>1264960020000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Determining the validity of the correllation depends on how well they controlled for other variables.  I've not seen the actual study, so I don't know how they determined the direction of correllation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Determining the validity of the correllation depends on how well they controlled for other variables .
I 've not seen the actual study , so I do n't know how they determined the direction of correllation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Determining the validity of the correllation depends on how well they controlled for other variables.
I've not seen the actual study, so I don't know how they determined the direction of correllation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011660</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>RyoShin</author>
	<datestamp>1264960800000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Not having a PhD, no data, and not having RTFA, I'd guess that it's the second one.</p><p>As someone who suffers from regular bouts of depression (as well as daily depression periods relating to certain bodily functions), I know from first-hand experience that the internet is a great distraction for depression.  You momentarily forget your woes when you find a video of a kitten going 'NOM NOM NOM' or play some flash game (or go to sexually gratifying websites.) Online communities are great because they are mostly homogeneous (sites like<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. being an obvious exception; there's some homogeneity, but it's not all-encompassing like most communities), so you get communities for the few things you actually have interest in, or that share your general outlook on the world and so are great for complaining to or discussing with.</p><p>The internet allows you to lose some of yourself for a short while, and in a state of depression that's often something you want to do.  It also keeps you away from real physical contact (at least for myself, in a depressed state I don't want to be around anyone) while being more active than just watching TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not having a PhD , no data , and not having RTFA , I 'd guess that it 's the second one.As someone who suffers from regular bouts of depression ( as well as daily depression periods relating to certain bodily functions ) , I know from first-hand experience that the internet is a great distraction for depression .
You momentarily forget your woes when you find a video of a kitten going 'NOM NOM NOM ' or play some flash game ( or go to sexually gratifying websites .
) Online communities are great because they are mostly homogeneous ( sites like / .
being an obvious exception ; there 's some homogeneity , but it 's not all-encompassing like most communities ) , so you get communities for the few things you actually have interest in , or that share your general outlook on the world and so are great for complaining to or discussing with.The internet allows you to lose some of yourself for a short while , and in a state of depression that 's often something you want to do .
It also keeps you away from real physical contact ( at least for myself , in a depressed state I do n't want to be around anyone ) while being more active than just watching TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not having a PhD, no data, and not having RTFA, I'd guess that it's the second one.As someone who suffers from regular bouts of depression (as well as daily depression periods relating to certain bodily functions), I know from first-hand experience that the internet is a great distraction for depression.
You momentarily forget your woes when you find a video of a kitten going 'NOM NOM NOM' or play some flash game (or go to sexually gratifying websites.
) Online communities are great because they are mostly homogeneous (sites like /.
being an obvious exception; there's some homogeneity, but it's not all-encompassing like most communities), so you get communities for the few things you actually have interest in, or that share your general outlook on the world and so are great for complaining to or discussing with.The internet allows you to lose some of yourself for a short while, and in a state of depression that's often something you want to do.
It also keeps you away from real physical contact (at least for myself, in a depressed state I don't want to be around anyone) while being more active than just watching TV.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Enough of correlation != causation</title>
	<author>1s44c</author>
	<datestamp>1264951140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Ok. Ok. We all get that correlation does not imply causation. Please stop saying that now - everybody knows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok. Ok. We all get that correlation does not imply causation .
Please stop saying that now - everybody knows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok. Ok. We all get that correlation does not imply causation.
Please stop saying that now - everybody knows.</sentencetext>
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	<title>On the other hand</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1265293320000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Perhaps being informed of what is really going on is the cause of depression.</p><p>I offer this theory: <b>The leading cause of depression is the truth</b> on how the world really works. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer; the criminals have more right sthen the victims, and the corruption just keeps getting worse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps being informed of what is really going on is the cause of depression.I offer this theory : The leading cause of depression is the truth on how the world really works .
The rich get richer , the poor get poorer ; the criminals have more right sthen the victims , and the corruption just keeps getting worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps being informed of what is really going on is the cause of depression.I offer this theory: The leading cause of depression is the truth on how the world really works.
The rich get richer, the poor get poorer; the criminals have more right sthen the victims, and the corruption just keeps getting worse.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>GnuAge</author>
	<datestamp>1264936140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Actually,  <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/232781/page/3" title="newsweek.com" rel="nofollow">"the serotonin-deficit theory of depression is built on a foundation of tissue paper"</a> [newsweek.com]  This is one reason why SSRI drugs are basically no more effective than placebos for most depressed people. <br> <br>Actually, the placebo effect has increased markedly in the U.S. over the last decade, so much so, that if the clinical trials for current anti-depressants had taken place today most of them would not have crossed the "threshold of futility" and been approved for market by the FDA.  And quite possibly the <a href="http://www.wired.com/medtech/drugs/magazine/17-09/ff\_placebo\_effect?currentPage=all" title="wired.com" rel="nofollow">reason</a> [wired.com] the placebo effect has increased is because people are being subjected to so much Big Pharma advertisement over the last decade or so since the FDA permitted the industry to market its wares directly to the public. Kinda funny, actually, in an effort to increase sales (and incidentally, hypochondria and anxiety in society at large) the drug companies may have made it much harder for themselves to release new compounds as their patents slowly expire.  My heart pumps piss...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , " the serotonin-deficit theory of depression is built on a foundation of tissue paper " [ newsweek.com ] This is one reason why SSRI drugs are basically no more effective than placebos for most depressed people .
Actually , the placebo effect has increased markedly in the U.S. over the last decade , so much so , that if the clinical trials for current anti-depressants had taken place today most of them would not have crossed the " threshold of futility " and been approved for market by the FDA .
And quite possibly the reason [ wired.com ] the placebo effect has increased is because people are being subjected to so much Big Pharma advertisement over the last decade or so since the FDA permitted the industry to market its wares directly to the public .
Kinda funny , actually , in an effort to increase sales ( and incidentally , hypochondria and anxiety in society at large ) the drug companies may have made it much harder for themselves to release new compounds as their patents slowly expire .
My heart pumps piss.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually,  "the serotonin-deficit theory of depression is built on a foundation of tissue paper" [newsweek.com]  This is one reason why SSRI drugs are basically no more effective than placebos for most depressed people.
Actually, the placebo effect has increased markedly in the U.S. over the last decade, so much so, that if the clinical trials for current anti-depressants had taken place today most of them would not have crossed the "threshold of futility" and been approved for market by the FDA.
And quite possibly the reason [wired.com] the placebo effect has increased is because people are being subjected to so much Big Pharma advertisement over the last decade or so since the FDA permitted the industry to market its wares directly to the public.
Kinda funny, actually, in an effort to increase sales (and incidentally, hypochondria and anxiety in society at large) the drug companies may have made it much harder for themselves to release new compounds as their patents slowly expire.
My heart pumps piss...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Holey research!</title>
	<author>wrencherd</author>
	<datestamp>1264936440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>The research, as reported in TFA, is full of holes.</p><p>As a for instance: is looking at topless models on your pc at the bank considered "internet use"?</p><p>If so, a lot of people spend all day at work engaged in "heavy internet use" (which might be the source of their depression I suppose).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The research , as reported in TFA , is full of holes.As a for instance : is looking at topless models on your pc at the bank considered " internet use " ? If so , a lot of people spend all day at work engaged in " heavy internet use " ( which might be the source of their depression I suppose ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The research, as reported in TFA, is full of holes.As a for instance: is looking at topless models on your pc at the bank considered "internet use"?If so, a lot of people spend all day at work engaged in "heavy internet use" (which might be the source of their depression I suppose).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013182</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264967280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would get depressed too, if I had to watch the crap that's on TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would get depressed too , if I had to watch the crap that 's on TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would get depressed too, if I had to watch the crap that's on TV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013696</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>TheCarp</author>
	<datestamp>1264969560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, I tend to go with symptom rather than cause.</p><p>Though there may be contributing factors, it is a sedentary activity, the amount of exercise that you engage in has a pretty powerful effect on mood, as does food intake, etc.</p><p>I have been through bouts of severe depression myself, and always spent a lot of time online. What I notice from reading this is that the habbits shown as stereotypical of a depressed person, line up pretty well with what I did when I was depressed. Today I spend many hours online (partially due to my job, partially hobby projects), but, spend hardly any time on gaming sites (I still game but prefer to do it on my 360), rarely seek out porn (nearly every day while depressed).</p><p>Another thing, I used to keep online journals (predating lj). The more severe the depression, the more I wanted to write about and and log what a miserable bastard I was becoming. As soon as I started feeling better about my life, and the racing spiraling thought patterns went away.... so did my desire to keep any manner of journal.</p><p>Now I spend as many hours online. Now I tend to be pissed off about something politically, writing/debugging code on a personal project, or reading up on something that fascinates me. I hit up the occasional social networking site, or try to arrange a date with someone new. Though since I am mostly happy in my primary relationship, and not feeling like I NEED external validation to feel good, well... its hardly a priority. (actually, sometimes I wish she would see her secondaries just a bit more so I could have some more xbox time and/or get a bit more coding done... two gamers and one xbox is probably not a long term strategy for a happy marriage)</p><p>-Steve</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I tend to go with symptom rather than cause.Though there may be contributing factors , it is a sedentary activity , the amount of exercise that you engage in has a pretty powerful effect on mood , as does food intake , etc.I have been through bouts of severe depression myself , and always spent a lot of time online .
What I notice from reading this is that the habbits shown as stereotypical of a depressed person , line up pretty well with what I did when I was depressed .
Today I spend many hours online ( partially due to my job , partially hobby projects ) , but , spend hardly any time on gaming sites ( I still game but prefer to do it on my 360 ) , rarely seek out porn ( nearly every day while depressed ) .Another thing , I used to keep online journals ( predating lj ) .
The more severe the depression , the more I wanted to write about and and log what a miserable bastard I was becoming .
As soon as I started feeling better about my life , and the racing spiraling thought patterns went away.... so did my desire to keep any manner of journal.Now I spend as many hours online .
Now I tend to be pissed off about something politically , writing/debugging code on a personal project , or reading up on something that fascinates me .
I hit up the occasional social networking site , or try to arrange a date with someone new .
Though since I am mostly happy in my primary relationship , and not feeling like I NEED external validation to feel good , well... its hardly a priority .
( actually , sometimes I wish she would see her secondaries just a bit more so I could have some more xbox time and/or get a bit more coding done... two gamers and one xbox is probably not a long term strategy for a happy marriage ) -Steve</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I tend to go with symptom rather than cause.Though there may be contributing factors, it is a sedentary activity, the amount of exercise that you engage in has a pretty powerful effect on mood, as does food intake, etc.I have been through bouts of severe depression myself, and always spent a lot of time online.
What I notice from reading this is that the habbits shown as stereotypical of a depressed person, line up pretty well with what I did when I was depressed.
Today I spend many hours online (partially due to my job, partially hobby projects), but, spend hardly any time on gaming sites (I still game but prefer to do it on my 360), rarely seek out porn (nearly every day while depressed).Another thing, I used to keep online journals (predating lj).
The more severe the depression, the more I wanted to write about and and log what a miserable bastard I was becoming.
As soon as I started feeling better about my life, and the racing spiraling thought patterns went away.... so did my desire to keep any manner of journal.Now I spend as many hours online.
Now I tend to be pissed off about something politically, writing/debugging code on a personal project, or reading up on something that fascinates me.
I hit up the occasional social networking site, or try to arrange a date with someone new.
Though since I am mostly happy in my primary relationship, and not feeling like I NEED external validation to feel good, well... its hardly a priority.
(actually, sometimes I wish she would see her secondaries just a bit more so I could have some more xbox time and/or get a bit more coding done... two gamers and one xbox is probably not a long term strategy for a happy marriage)-Steve</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011600</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Hellpop</author>
	<datestamp>1264960560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe Causation causes Correlation now?</p><p>I would put money on it being the other way around.</p><p>Depression has been around much longer than teh intarnets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe Causation causes Correlation now ? I would put money on it being the other way around.Depression has been around much longer than teh intarnets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe Causation causes Correlation now?I would put money on it being the other way around.Depression has been around much longer than teh intarnets.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012040</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Inda</author>
	<datestamp>1264962300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have truly suffered from clinical depression for over twenty years. I manage it well; no pills; very few people in the real world know. I had it before the internet, during and probably after.<br><br>When I'm suffering, I don't get a lot of sleep, so I spend more time on the internet. It's as simple as that.<br><br>And I didn't RTFA because the comments on Slashdot said not to bother.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have truly suffered from clinical depression for over twenty years .
I manage it well ; no pills ; very few people in the real world know .
I had it before the internet , during and probably after.When I 'm suffering , I do n't get a lot of sleep , so I spend more time on the internet .
It 's as simple as that.And I did n't RTFA because the comments on Slashdot said not to bother .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have truly suffered from clinical depression for over twenty years.
I manage it well; no pills; very few people in the real world know.
I had it before the internet, during and probably after.When I'm suffering, I don't get a lot of sleep, so I spend more time on the internet.
It's as simple as that.And I didn't RTFA because the comments on Slashdot said not to bother.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013272</id>
	<title>In other news</title>
	<author>forgottenusername</author>
	<datestamp>1264967640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People who obsessively perform any activity are generally less than happy and healthy. Depression is often involved!</p><p>"When I get sad I clean my entire house top to bottom then I feel better. I do it 4 times a day"</p><p>"When I get angry I go for a run. Sometimes I run until my body collapses and I fall down twitching covered in vomit and tears"</p><p>"When I don't want to face my life or make choices, I play WoW all day!" --me</p><p>I'm really tired of all the lame ass qualifying and CYA people do. Taking a piss may cause herpies! Drinking mochas may cause intestinal distress! You can't sue us for anything because we said "may"! It leads to such sensationalist, ridiculous articles than seep into your consciousness and waste brain space. Also it leads to poorly typed, all caps emails from my Republican Christian mom about how its "proof the world is ending" and what have you. Exhausting!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People who obsessively perform any activity are generally less than happy and healthy .
Depression is often involved !
" When I get sad I clean my entire house top to bottom then I feel better .
I do it 4 times a day " " When I get angry I go for a run .
Sometimes I run until my body collapses and I fall down twitching covered in vomit and tears " " When I do n't want to face my life or make choices , I play WoW all day !
" --meI 'm really tired of all the lame ass qualifying and CYA people do .
Taking a piss may cause herpies !
Drinking mochas may cause intestinal distress !
You ca n't sue us for anything because we said " may " !
It leads to such sensationalist , ridiculous articles than seep into your consciousness and waste brain space .
Also it leads to poorly typed , all caps emails from my Republican Christian mom about how its " proof the world is ending " and what have you .
Exhausting !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who obsessively perform any activity are generally less than happy and healthy.
Depression is often involved!
"When I get sad I clean my entire house top to bottom then I feel better.
I do it 4 times a day""When I get angry I go for a run.
Sometimes I run until my body collapses and I fall down twitching covered in vomit and tears""When I don't want to face my life or make choices, I play WoW all day!
" --meI'm really tired of all the lame ass qualifying and CYA people do.
Taking a piss may cause herpies!
Drinking mochas may cause intestinal distress!
You can't sue us for anything because we said "may"!
It leads to such sensationalist, ridiculous articles than seep into your consciousness and waste brain space.
Also it leads to poorly typed, all caps emails from my Republican Christian mom about how its "proof the world is ending" and what have you.
Exhausting!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012078</id>
	<title>heavy = weight ?</title>
	<author>noddyxoi</author>
	<datestamp>1264962420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the title your use the word heavy, it could be a freudian slip that already provides the answer, has heavy means overweighted, think cartman from southpark playing wow, then correlation does not imply causation and therefore people could be getting depressed of their asses being nailed to a chair.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the title your use the word heavy , it could be a freudian slip that already provides the answer , has heavy means overweighted , think cartman from southpark playing wow , then correlation does not imply causation and therefore people could be getting depressed of their asses being nailed to a chair .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the title your use the word heavy, it could be a freudian slip that already provides the answer, has heavy means overweighted, think cartman from southpark playing wow, then correlation does not imply causation and therefore people could be getting depressed of their asses being nailed to a chair.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31015056</id>
	<title>Re:Comorbidity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264933620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Disorders that we have become better at diagnosing and are more aware of, are being diagnosed more frequently. Color me surprised.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Disorders that we have become better at diagnosing and are more aware of , are being diagnosed more frequently .
Color me surprised .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disorders that we have become better at diagnosing and are more aware of, are being diagnosed more frequently.
Color me surprised.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012280</id>
	<title>Re:Content-free news</title>
	<author>symes</author>
	<datestamp>1264963080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm missing the part where this study has produced anything of value.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"What is clear is that for a small subset of people, excessive use of the internet could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies."</p></div><p>You could just as easily say with just as much truth, "What is clear is that for a small subset of people, excessive *anything* could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies." But of course, that wouldn't produce anywhere <i>near</i> as much alarm and fear of the Internet.</p></div><p>Well, actually, no. The next logical step from this study would be to conduct a randomised controlled trial such that, in the experimental groups, internet users who are depressed are asked to reduce their use of the internet and go do ther activities. If a robust effect is discovered then the advice that reducing internet use in depressed internet users can help reduce depression is validated to some extent. Which is a whole load better than simply saying to depressed internet users that they go off and take some pills.<br> <br>So there is some merit in this study and the researchers are going about some potentially valuable research. The media have blown it up out of proportion, as usual.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm missing the part where this study has produced anything of value .
" What is clear is that for a small subset of people , excessive use of the internet could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies .
" You could just as easily say with just as much truth , " What is clear is that for a small subset of people , excessive * anything * could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies .
" But of course , that would n't produce anywhere near as much alarm and fear of the Internet.Well , actually , no .
The next logical step from this study would be to conduct a randomised controlled trial such that , in the experimental groups , internet users who are depressed are asked to reduce their use of the internet and go do ther activities .
If a robust effect is discovered then the advice that reducing internet use in depressed internet users can help reduce depression is validated to some extent .
Which is a whole load better than simply saying to depressed internet users that they go off and take some pills .
So there is some merit in this study and the researchers are going about some potentially valuable research .
The media have blown it up out of proportion , as usual .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm missing the part where this study has produced anything of value.
"What is clear is that for a small subset of people, excessive use of the internet could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies.
"You could just as easily say with just as much truth, "What is clear is that for a small subset of people, excessive *anything* could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies.
" But of course, that wouldn't produce anywhere near as much alarm and fear of the Internet.Well, actually, no.
The next logical step from this study would be to conduct a randomised controlled trial such that, in the experimental groups, internet users who are depressed are asked to reduce their use of the internet and go do ther activities.
If a robust effect is discovered then the advice that reducing internet use in depressed internet users can help reduce depression is validated to some extent.
Which is a whole load better than simply saying to depressed internet users that they go off and take some pills.
So there is some merit in this study and the researchers are going about some potentially valuable research.
The media have blown it up out of proportion, as usual.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012486</id>
	<title>Re:Once you've seen a guy fucked to death by a hor</title>
	<author>Areyoukiddingme</author>
	<datestamp>1264963920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There was VIDEO?!  Good god.  I'm so glad I've never looked at<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/b/...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There was VIDEO ? !
Good god .
I 'm so glad I 've never looked at /b/.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was VIDEO?!
Good god.
I'm so glad I've never looked at /b/...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011620</id>
	<title>Internet Addiction or just enjoy the Internet?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read the article, so already that disqualifies me to make a comment, but I will anyway.</p><p>In reading the article, I started thinking maybe I was depressed because I frequent those same types of sites listed in the article, with the exception of the sexual ones (as far as you know).  I went to webmd and looked up the symptoms of depression.  Luckily, I have none of the symptoms of depression and in many ways am just the opposite of those listed.</p><p>However, I spend an awful lot of time on the Internet and, frankly, just enjoy the Internet more than I do interaction with people.  Sure, I can go to the pub and throw back a pint or two and that's fun sometimes but I'd almost certainly rather spend that same time hacking away on something on the computer or just browsing for fun.</p><p>So does that make me an Internet addict or does that make everyone else who enjoys personal/social interaction an attention whore?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read the article , so already that disqualifies me to make a comment , but I will anyway.In reading the article , I started thinking maybe I was depressed because I frequent those same types of sites listed in the article , with the exception of the sexual ones ( as far as you know ) .
I went to webmd and looked up the symptoms of depression .
Luckily , I have none of the symptoms of depression and in many ways am just the opposite of those listed.However , I spend an awful lot of time on the Internet and , frankly , just enjoy the Internet more than I do interaction with people .
Sure , I can go to the pub and throw back a pint or two and that 's fun sometimes but I 'd almost certainly rather spend that same time hacking away on something on the computer or just browsing for fun.So does that make me an Internet addict or does that make everyone else who enjoys personal/social interaction an attention whore ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read the article, so already that disqualifies me to make a comment, but I will anyway.In reading the article, I started thinking maybe I was depressed because I frequent those same types of sites listed in the article, with the exception of the sexual ones (as far as you know).
I went to webmd and looked up the symptoms of depression.
Luckily, I have none of the symptoms of depression and in many ways am just the opposite of those listed.However, I spend an awful lot of time on the Internet and, frankly, just enjoy the Internet more than I do interaction with people.
Sure, I can go to the pub and throw back a pint or two and that's fun sometimes but I'd almost certainly rather spend that same time hacking away on something on the computer or just browsing for fun.So does that make me an Internet addict or does that make everyone else who enjoys personal/social interaction an attention whore?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011408</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe confusing cause and effect</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you even bothered to read the first two sentences of TFA, you wouldn't have had to make this asinine comment. Thanks for the insight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you even bothered to read the first two sentences of TFA , you would n't have had to make this asinine comment .
Thanks for the insight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you even bothered to read the first two sentences of TFA, you wouldn't have had to make this asinine comment.
Thanks for the insight.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011704</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264961040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait... how did we get on to Seasonal Affective Disorder?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait... how did we get on to Seasonal Affective Disorder ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait... how did we get on to Seasonal Affective Disorder?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31020760</id>
	<title>Ooh, ooh, I got this...</title>
	<author>ebichete</author>
	<datestamp>1265288040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"People who spend a lot of time visiting hospitals are more likely to die shortly thereafter, Slashdot scientists said on Wednesday. These 'hospital visitors' suffered proportionately more illnesses, ailments and injuries, CmdrTaco said. They also had a higher incidence of moderate to fatal conditions than normal people."</p><p>Sigh. I thought the point of research was to discover, inform and enlighten. Not just "research for research's sake".</p><p>- Edward -</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" People who spend a lot of time visiting hospitals are more likely to die shortly thereafter , Slashdot scientists said on Wednesday .
These 'hospital visitors ' suffered proportionately more illnesses , ailments and injuries , CmdrTaco said .
They also had a higher incidence of moderate to fatal conditions than normal people. " Sigh .
I thought the point of research was to discover , inform and enlighten .
Not just " research for research 's sake " .- Edward -</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"People who spend a lot of time visiting hospitals are more likely to die shortly thereafter, Slashdot scientists said on Wednesday.
These 'hospital visitors' suffered proportionately more illnesses, ailments and injuries, CmdrTaco said.
They also had a higher incidence of moderate to fatal conditions than normal people."Sigh.
I thought the point of research was to discover, inform and enlighten.
Not just "research for research's sake".- Edward -</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011384</id>
	<title>Cause or effect?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or depressed people spend more time on the internet.  I hate it when they show an effect that could very well be the cause instead.  Damn poor study, if you ask me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or depressed people spend more time on the internet .
I hate it when they show an effect that could very well be the cause instead .
Damn poor study , if you ask me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or depressed people spend more time on the internet.
I hate it when they show an effect that could very well be the cause instead.
Damn poor study, if you ask me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013634</id>
	<title>Re:Awareness of the world</title>
	<author>Quiet\_Desperation</author>
	<datestamp>1264969320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Holy crap is that ever true. All the information age has done is informed me what a freaking mess the human race is.</p><p>Still, the porn's good, I guess. And that amazon thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Holy crap is that ever true .
All the information age has done is informed me what a freaking mess the human race is.Still , the porn 's good , I guess .
And that amazon thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Holy crap is that ever true.
All the information age has done is informed me what a freaking mess the human race is.Still, the porn's good, I guess.
And that amazon thing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012258</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>Z00L00K</author>
	<datestamp>1264962960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And what's cause and what's effect?</p><p>What if heavy internet usage is caused by being depressed rather than causing it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And what 's cause and what 's effect ? What if heavy internet usage is caused by being depressed rather than causing it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what's cause and what's effect?What if heavy internet usage is caused by being depressed rather than causing it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011428</id>
	<title>Is this an on-line community?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now I really feel depressed...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I really feel depressed.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I really feel depressed...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011394</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to modern journalism.</p><p>OMG HEADLINE!</p><p>Titillating content.</p><p>One line note explaining how everything you read was pure speculation on the part of the writer, and that there are no real conclusions to be drawn from the study/events/whatever that the writer tricked you into thinking the article was about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to modern journalism.OMG HEADLINE ! Titillating content.One line note explaining how everything you read was pure speculation on the part of the writer , and that there are no real conclusions to be drawn from the study/events/whatever that the writer tricked you into thinking the article was about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to modern journalism.OMG HEADLINE!Titillating content.One line note explaining how everything you read was pure speculation on the part of the writer, and that there are no real conclusions to be drawn from the study/events/whatever that the writer tricked you into thinking the article was about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011340</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014306</id>
	<title>wow, a lot of misreading</title>
	<author>GaimanBohrs</author>
	<datestamp>1264929780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The study merely states an interesting coincidence that may be worth studying further. All of a sudden people here are questioning the motives behind the study, whether or not they controlled for signs of depression before heavy internet usage, and getting angry because of this or that...  If someone were to do a study to show that heavy internet usage <i>causes</i> depression, then yes, they would have to control for pre-existing signs. This study only shows that these two statistical phenomena match in a statistically significant way. However, then some have countered that there's "nothing to see here" or that this article is useless. Maybe I'm just more interested in how actual research gets done (observation --&gt; testing --&gt; conclusion) instead of what people seem to demand (conclusion --&gt; proof).  I got no sense from this that it is an attempt to incite panic or fear of teh interwebs; it is merely an interesting observation that may warrant further study into the causal relationship (if any) between heavy internet usage and depression, or other factors that might lead these two phenomena to correlate.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The study merely states an interesting coincidence that may be worth studying further .
All of a sudden people here are questioning the motives behind the study , whether or not they controlled for signs of depression before heavy internet usage , and getting angry because of this or that... If someone were to do a study to show that heavy internet usage causes depression , then yes , they would have to control for pre-existing signs .
This study only shows that these two statistical phenomena match in a statistically significant way .
However , then some have countered that there 's " nothing to see here " or that this article is useless .
Maybe I 'm just more interested in how actual research gets done ( observation -- &gt; testing -- &gt; conclusion ) instead of what people seem to demand ( conclusion -- &gt; proof ) .
I got no sense from this that it is an attempt to incite panic or fear of teh interwebs ; it is merely an interesting observation that may warrant further study into the causal relationship ( if any ) between heavy internet usage and depression , or other factors that might lead these two phenomena to correlate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The study merely states an interesting coincidence that may be worth studying further.
All of a sudden people here are questioning the motives behind the study, whether or not they controlled for signs of depression before heavy internet usage, and getting angry because of this or that...  If someone were to do a study to show that heavy internet usage causes depression, then yes, they would have to control for pre-existing signs.
This study only shows that these two statistical phenomena match in a statistically significant way.
However, then some have countered that there's "nothing to see here" or that this article is useless.
Maybe I'm just more interested in how actual research gets done (observation --&gt; testing --&gt; conclusion) instead of what people seem to demand (conclusion --&gt; proof).
I got no sense from this that it is an attempt to incite panic or fear of teh interwebs; it is merely an interesting observation that may warrant further study into the causal relationship (if any) between heavy internet usage and depression, or other factors that might lead these two phenomena to correlate.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31018528</id>
	<title>News at 11...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264954980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"People who spend a lot of time drinking alcohol are more likely to show signs of depression, British scientists said on Wednesday. These 'alcoholics' spent proportionately more time drinking alcohol, Morrison said. They also had a higher incidence of moderate to severe depression than normal users."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" People who spend a lot of time drinking alcohol are more likely to show signs of depression , British scientists said on Wednesday .
These 'alcoholics ' spent proportionately more time drinking alcohol , Morrison said .
They also had a higher incidence of moderate to severe depression than normal users .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"People who spend a lot of time drinking alcohol are more likely to show signs of depression, British scientists said on Wednesday.
These 'alcoholics' spent proportionately more time drinking alcohol, Morrison said.
They also had a higher incidence of moderate to severe depression than normal users.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014066</id>
	<title>Gaming part of "internet use"?</title>
	<author>BigSes</author>
	<datestamp>1264971480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I didn't RTFA, but things like this always make me think of gaming as "internet use" and if this would be part of the basis for these studies.  People who are hopelessly addicted to playing WoW, Everquest, or even earlier games such as The Realm, often exhibit depressed and anti-social behaviors.  <p>I knew someone once who was generally quite depressed every single day (albiet not professionally diagnosed), who lived for WoW, nearly 8-10 hours a day (much more on weekends).  No matter what degree of persuasion that I tried to give her, she was convinced that WoW was the answer, not the source.  I thought it might be helpful to enjoy real life again for a while, and not count on that dependency.  </p><p>I also knew someone who played Everquest that, IRL, was clincally diagnosed as depressed and nearly bipolar.  I was often told by him that after long bouts of the game, these tendencies would get worse.  He would then start to exhibit those behaviors in game, and in the real world.</p><p>
With gaming, I think it might be possible that people get depressed because they realize its an addiction, and it makes them depressed upon realizing they have a problem.  The cycle then begins and continues on and on.  Thats why I think these studies really should include more than browsing before coming to a conclusion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't RTFA , but things like this always make me think of gaming as " internet use " and if this would be part of the basis for these studies .
People who are hopelessly addicted to playing WoW , Everquest , or even earlier games such as The Realm , often exhibit depressed and anti-social behaviors .
I knew someone once who was generally quite depressed every single day ( albiet not professionally diagnosed ) , who lived for WoW , nearly 8-10 hours a day ( much more on weekends ) .
No matter what degree of persuasion that I tried to give her , she was convinced that WoW was the answer , not the source .
I thought it might be helpful to enjoy real life again for a while , and not count on that dependency .
I also knew someone who played Everquest that , IRL , was clincally diagnosed as depressed and nearly bipolar .
I was often told by him that after long bouts of the game , these tendencies would get worse .
He would then start to exhibit those behaviors in game , and in the real world .
With gaming , I think it might be possible that people get depressed because they realize its an addiction , and it makes them depressed upon realizing they have a problem .
The cycle then begins and continues on and on .
Thats why I think these studies really should include more than browsing before coming to a conclusion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't RTFA, but things like this always make me think of gaming as "internet use" and if this would be part of the basis for these studies.
People who are hopelessly addicted to playing WoW, Everquest, or even earlier games such as The Realm, often exhibit depressed and anti-social behaviors.
I knew someone once who was generally quite depressed every single day (albiet not professionally diagnosed), who lived for WoW, nearly 8-10 hours a day (much more on weekends).
No matter what degree of persuasion that I tried to give her, she was convinced that WoW was the answer, not the source.
I thought it might be helpful to enjoy real life again for a while, and not count on that dependency.
I also knew someone who played Everquest that, IRL, was clincally diagnosed as depressed and nearly bipolar.
I was often told by him that after long bouts of the game, these tendencies would get worse.
He would then start to exhibit those behaviors in game, and in the real world.
With gaming, I think it might be possible that people get depressed because they realize its an addiction, and it makes them depressed upon realizing they have a problem.
The cycle then begins and continues on and on.
Thats why I think these studies really should include more than browsing before coming to a conclusion.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014228</id>
	<title>"sexually gratifying websites"</title>
	<author>Eric Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1264929180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Which ones are those?  I haven't found any; I've only seen sexually frustrating websites. It's less satisfying than going to a strip club or even just "reading" Playboy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Which ones are those ?
I have n't found any ; I 've only seen sexually frustrating websites .
It 's less satisfying than going to a strip club or even just " reading " Playboy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which ones are those?
I haven't found any; I've only seen sexually frustrating websites.
It's less satisfying than going to a strip club or even just "reading" Playboy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012512</id>
	<title>Hard to deduce much from this</title>
	<author>BlueParrot</author>
	<datestamp>1264964100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A couple of plausible explanations seem likely:</p><p>a)Low sunlight exposure can lead to vitamin D deficiency. This is not exclusive to internet use, but any indoor activity</p><p>b)It's fairly well documented that a lot of people use the internet as a coping resource. In this case it may even have a protective effect, even though the correlation looks different.</p><p>c)Lack of exercise. Daily exercise is known to help maintain a good mood. In addition a stationary lifestyle could result in obesity, which may in turn result in low confidence and other problems.</p><p>d)Common causes. Some psychological illnesses cause people to withdraw from social interactions. Such people are more likely to spend time online.</p><p>e)Dietary correlations. Would anybody here be surprised if it turns out heavy internet users also often eat pizza and soda to a greater extent than others? I can tell you from personal experience than malnutrition can easily get you depressed rapidly</p><p>Basically there are too many plausible correlations to identify why this occurs. To simply hand-wave it away shouting "correlation is not causation" would not be rational, but there's so many reasons to expect these results that are not fundamentally due to something internet specific that the study seems to be of moderate interest at best.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A couple of plausible explanations seem likely : a ) Low sunlight exposure can lead to vitamin D deficiency .
This is not exclusive to internet use , but any indoor activityb ) It 's fairly well documented that a lot of people use the internet as a coping resource .
In this case it may even have a protective effect , even though the correlation looks different.c ) Lack of exercise .
Daily exercise is known to help maintain a good mood .
In addition a stationary lifestyle could result in obesity , which may in turn result in low confidence and other problems.d ) Common causes .
Some psychological illnesses cause people to withdraw from social interactions .
Such people are more likely to spend time online.e ) Dietary correlations .
Would anybody here be surprised if it turns out heavy internet users also often eat pizza and soda to a greater extent than others ?
I can tell you from personal experience than malnutrition can easily get you depressed rapidlyBasically there are too many plausible correlations to identify why this occurs .
To simply hand-wave it away shouting " correlation is not causation " would not be rational , but there 's so many reasons to expect these results that are not fundamentally due to something internet specific that the study seems to be of moderate interest at best .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A couple of plausible explanations seem likely:a)Low sunlight exposure can lead to vitamin D deficiency.
This is not exclusive to internet use, but any indoor activityb)It's fairly well documented that a lot of people use the internet as a coping resource.
In this case it may even have a protective effect, even though the correlation looks different.c)Lack of exercise.
Daily exercise is known to help maintain a good mood.
In addition a stationary lifestyle could result in obesity, which may in turn result in low confidence and other problems.d)Common causes.
Some psychological illnesses cause people to withdraw from social interactions.
Such people are more likely to spend time online.e)Dietary correlations.
Would anybody here be surprised if it turns out heavy internet users also often eat pizza and soda to a greater extent than others?
I can tell you from personal experience than malnutrition can easily get you depressed rapidlyBasically there are too many plausible correlations to identify why this occurs.
To simply hand-wave it away shouting "correlation is not causation" would not be rational, but there's so many reasons to expect these results that are not fundamentally due to something internet specific that the study seems to be of moderate interest at best.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31015786</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1264936740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What if the internet is caused by depression?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>I think we already know the cause of the internet (and VHS and DVD): porn.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What if the internet is caused by depression ?
I think we already know the cause of the internet ( and VHS and DVD ) : porn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if the internet is caused by depression?
I think we already know the cause of the internet (and VHS and DVD): porn.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012556</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012536</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>digitalgiblet</author>
	<datestamp>1264964160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree.</p><p>I could only manage to read about half the story before I was so overcome with dispair that I... I can't even finish this</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree.I could only manage to read about half the story before I was so overcome with dispair that I... I ca n't even finish this</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.I could only manage to read about half the story before I was so overcome with dispair that I... I can't even finish this</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011312</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011720</id>
	<title>Awareness of the world</title>
	<author>ddrueding80</author>
	<datestamp>1264961040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about: Awareness of the world makes people more depressed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about : Awareness of the world makes people more depressed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about: Awareness of the world makes people more depressed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31015202</id>
	<title>Re:Comorbidity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264934280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And sour milk, don't forget that. OH, and crop blights, and calves with two heads. The calves with two heads thing is really freaky. Boy, I can't wait to get out my pitchfork and go after that dang blamed Internets thingy for all this here trouble. My boy's just a passel of problems now. can't get him to sit down with me and watch football like a normal kid. He just wants to play with his YouTube like a pansy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And sour milk , do n't forget that .
OH , and crop blights , and calves with two heads .
The calves with two heads thing is really freaky .
Boy , I ca n't wait to get out my pitchfork and go after that dang blamed Internets thingy for all this here trouble .
My boy 's just a passel of problems now .
ca n't get him to sit down with me and watch football like a normal kid .
He just wants to play with his YouTube like a pansy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And sour milk, don't forget that.
OH, and crop blights, and calves with two heads.
The calves with two heads thing is really freaky.
Boy, I can't wait to get out my pitchfork and go after that dang blamed Internets thingy for all this here trouble.
My boy's just a passel of problems now.
can't get him to sit down with me and watch football like a normal kid.
He just wants to play with his YouTube like a pansy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011422</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31017798</id>
	<title>not too sad :D</title>
	<author>synaptiv</author>
	<datestamp>1264948380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have been suffering from depression since I was a kid, i just turned 42 and the internet has been a big part of my adult life and to be honest the gaming, has helped me with my depression, people around me think I spend too much time on it but to be honest, I find more people I have in common with online than I do in the real world, and that might have had something to do with my depression as a child as well, most of my friends. I dont like to say it werent as tech savvy or bookish as I was and that always made me sad. I play wow, but only maybe about 6 hours to 10 hours a month, I play quakelive more often than other games. and my work is a web developer as well so most of my time is spent online, but i refuse to do meds, I have tried them and was not impressed with the results, If i want to be numb to the world I would go back to drinking. So in all honesty I think when they were researching, that it causes depression I believe they were looking at the wrong question, and getting the wrong answer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been suffering from depression since I was a kid , i just turned 42 and the internet has been a big part of my adult life and to be honest the gaming , has helped me with my depression , people around me think I spend too much time on it but to be honest , I find more people I have in common with online than I do in the real world , and that might have had something to do with my depression as a child as well , most of my friends .
I dont like to say it werent as tech savvy or bookish as I was and that always made me sad .
I play wow , but only maybe about 6 hours to 10 hours a month , I play quakelive more often than other games .
and my work is a web developer as well so most of my time is spent online , but i refuse to do meds , I have tried them and was not impressed with the results , If i want to be numb to the world I would go back to drinking .
So in all honesty I think when they were researching , that it causes depression I believe they were looking at the wrong question , and getting the wrong answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been suffering from depression since I was a kid, i just turned 42 and the internet has been a big part of my adult life and to be honest the gaming, has helped me with my depression, people around me think I spend too much time on it but to be honest, I find more people I have in common with online than I do in the real world, and that might have had something to do with my depression as a child as well, most of my friends.
I dont like to say it werent as tech savvy or bookish as I was and that always made me sad.
I play wow, but only maybe about 6 hours to 10 hours a month, I play quakelive more often than other games.
and my work is a web developer as well so most of my time is spent online, but i refuse to do meds, I have tried them and was not impressed with the results, If i want to be numb to the world I would go back to drinking.
So in all honesty I think when they were researching, that it causes depression I believe they were looking at the wrong question, and getting the wrong answer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013608</id>
	<title>quoting out of context</title>
	<author>elnyka</author>
	<datestamp>1264969080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.</i> </p><p>So, what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions.  Nothing to see here, move along</p></div><p>No, what we have here is a questionable conclusion on a paper, drawn from a line quoted out of context. </p><p>

It might not have actual basis for a definite conclusion, but it does have actual data and observations with which to draw relations and directions for further research that might lead to a conclusion (or at least a framework for psychological diagnosis, prevention and treatment.)</p><p>

There is a lot see here, move along if you can't see it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it .
So , what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions .
Nothing to see here , move alongNo , what we have here is a questionable conclusion on a paper , drawn from a line quoted out of context .
It might not have actual basis for a definite conclusion , but it does have actual data and observations with which to draw relations and directions for further research that might lead to a conclusion ( or at least a framework for psychological diagnosis , prevention and treatment .
) There is a lot see here , move along if you ca n't see it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.
So, what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions.
Nothing to see here, move alongNo, what we have here is a questionable conclusion on a paper, drawn from a line quoted out of context.
It might not have actual basis for a definite conclusion, but it does have actual data and observations with which to draw relations and directions for further research that might lead to a conclusion (or at least a framework for psychological diagnosis, prevention and treatment.
)

There is a lot see here, move along if you can't see it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011340</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31021844</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>YourExperiment</author>
	<datestamp>1265296740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I sometimes hook up my computer to my television, then use it to watch internet television... oh God, what's the point of all this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I sometimes hook up my computer to my television , then use it to watch internet television... oh God , what 's the point of all this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I sometimes hook up my computer to my television, then use it to watch internet television... oh God, what's the point of all this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011890</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011528</id>
	<title>Probably the other way round...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It looks like depressed people are more likely to spend time on the Internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like depressed people are more likely to spend time on the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like depressed people are more likely to spend time on the Internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013580</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>psithurism</author>
	<datestamp>1264968960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Worth repeating: correlation is not always causation</p></div><p>Not really since TFA said it, what, 3 times?</p><p>The article made really clear the vague connection in the summery is just a vague connection that warrants further research.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Worth repeating : correlation is not always causationNot really since TFA said it , what , 3 times ? The article made really clear the vague connection in the summery is just a vague connection that warrants further research .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worth repeating: correlation is not always causationNot really since TFA said it, what, 3 times?The article made really clear the vague connection in the summery is just a vague connection that warrants further research.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011740</id>
	<title>Content-free news</title>
	<author>KnownIssues</author>
	<datestamp>1264961160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm missing the part where this study has produced anything of value.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"What is clear is that for a small subset of people, excessive use of the internet could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies."</p></div><p>You could just as easily say with just as much truth, "What is clear is that for a small subset of people, excessive *anything* could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies." But of course, that wouldn't produce anywhere <i>near</i> as much alarm and fear of the Internet.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm missing the part where this study has produced anything of value .
" What is clear is that for a small subset of people , excessive use of the internet could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies .
" You could just as easily say with just as much truth , " What is clear is that for a small subset of people , excessive * anything * could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies .
" But of course , that would n't produce anywhere near as much alarm and fear of the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm missing the part where this study has produced anything of value.
"What is clear is that for a small subset of people, excessive use of the internet could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies.
"You could just as easily say with just as much truth, "What is clear is that for a small subset of people, excessive *anything* could be a warning signal for depressive tendencies.
" But of course, that wouldn't produce anywhere near as much alarm and fear of the Internet.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014650</id>
	<title>Real cause of depression</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264931400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Finally, I have acquired the evidence to prove my theory that depression is actually caused by being reminded that correlation is not causation every time you read a news summary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally , I have acquired the evidence to prove my theory that depression is actually caused by being reminded that correlation is not causation every time you read a news summary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally, I have acquired the evidence to prove my theory that depression is actually caused by being reminded that correlation is not causation every time you read a news summary.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013094</id>
	<title>Re:Comorbidity</title>
	<author>revboden</author>
	<datestamp>1264966920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Aspergers is a syndrome not a disability.

Syndrome;1 : a group of signs and symptoms that occur together and characterize a particular abnormality or condition
2 : a set of concurrent things (as emotions or actions) that usually form an identifiable pattern<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...   I happen to be an Aspie.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Aspergers is a syndrome not a disability .
Syndrome ; 1 : a group of signs and symptoms that occur together and characterize a particular abnormality or condition 2 : a set of concurrent things ( as emotions or actions ) that usually form an identifiable pattern ... I happen to be an Aspie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aspergers is a syndrome not a disability.
Syndrome;1 : a group of signs and symptoms that occur together and characterize a particular abnormality or condition
2 : a set of concurrent things (as emotions or actions) that usually form an identifiable pattern ...   I happen to be an Aspie.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011422</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014492</id>
	<title>Re:Awareness of the world</title>
	<author>Rhacman</author>
	<datestamp>1264930680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apparently awareness of fictional worlds makes people more depressed as well <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html" title="cnn.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html</a> [cnn.com]  Maybe the problem is awareness in general, ignorance is bliss right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently awareness of fictional worlds makes people more depressed as well http : //www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html [ cnn.com ] Maybe the problem is awareness in general , ignorance is bliss right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently awareness of fictional worlds makes people more depressed as well http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html [cnn.com]  Maybe the problem is awareness in general, ignorance is bliss right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011720</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31016186</id>
	<title>Re:Cause or effect?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1264938360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>what happens if you stop depressed people from using the Internet, do they feel better, worse, or the same?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Shush, you, that would be actual science!

</p><p>But really, I remember the study about people with cats being healthier, and the conclusion that the cats are the cause. I always want to yell at them, "try a group of non-cat people, and assigning half cats, then see whether there's any noticeable health increase in only the cat-assigned ones".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>what happens if you stop depressed people from using the Internet , do they feel better , worse , or the same ?
Shush , you , that would be actual science !
But really , I remember the study about people with cats being healthier , and the conclusion that the cats are the cause .
I always want to yell at them , " try a group of non-cat people , and assigning half cats , then see whether there 's any noticeable health increase in only the cat-assigned ones " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what happens if you stop depressed people from using the Internet, do they feel better, worse, or the same?
Shush, you, that would be actual science!
But really, I remember the study about people with cats being healthier, and the conclusion that the cats are the cause.
I always want to yell at them, "try a group of non-cat people, and assigning half cats, then see whether there's any noticeable health increase in only the cat-assigned ones".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011588</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012788</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Crudely\_Indecent</author>
	<datestamp>1264965360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got a conclusion for you:</p><p>People who are depressed spend more time on the Internet looking for a life.</p><p>Back in the BBS days (and early Internet days) I would spend time in chat sessions and forums looking for parties, activities, new stuff to learn, of course - porn.  I met some of my best friends in chat in the early 90's on the Revolution Calling and Anarchy X BBSs in San Diego.  I don't remember being depressed at that time, but I was definitely looking for a life.</p><p>Anyway, the Internet is probably good for those depressed souls.  It gives them a place to look for the life they want.  Unfortunately, the quality of what they find has decreased over the years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a conclusion for you : People who are depressed spend more time on the Internet looking for a life.Back in the BBS days ( and early Internet days ) I would spend time in chat sessions and forums looking for parties , activities , new stuff to learn , of course - porn .
I met some of my best friends in chat in the early 90 's on the Revolution Calling and Anarchy X BBSs in San Diego .
I do n't remember being depressed at that time , but I was definitely looking for a life.Anyway , the Internet is probably good for those depressed souls .
It gives them a place to look for the life they want .
Unfortunately , the quality of what they find has decreased over the years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a conclusion for you:People who are depressed spend more time on the Internet looking for a life.Back in the BBS days (and early Internet days) I would spend time in chat sessions and forums looking for parties, activities, new stuff to learn, of course - porn.
I met some of my best friends in chat in the early 90's on the Revolution Calling and Anarchy X BBSs in San Diego.
I don't remember being depressed at that time, but I was definitely looking for a life.Anyway, the Internet is probably good for those depressed souls.
It gives them a place to look for the life they want.
Unfortunately, the quality of what they find has decreased over the years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011340</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011942</id>
	<title>Re:Is this an on-line community?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264962000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slashdot 2.0 makes me feel depressed too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot 2.0 makes me feel depressed too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot 2.0 makes me feel depressed too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011428</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014536</id>
	<title>Re:Depression linked do heavy Internet use.</title>
	<author>nacturation</author>
	<datestamp>1264930920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Step 2: Simulate removal.  I'd like to understand this more.  Can you elaborate, perhaps with an example?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 2 : Simulate removal .
I 'd like to understand this more .
Can you elaborate , perhaps with an example ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 2: Simulate removal.
I'd like to understand this more.
Can you elaborate, perhaps with an example?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31019272</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>kdemetter</author>
	<datestamp>1264963920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps it's because the internet can provide quick satisfaction, so people with depressions are more likely to go on the internet ?</p><p>I mean , people with depressions also tend to eat chocolates and ice cream , to get quick satisfaction , that doesn't mean that eating chocolates or ice cream cause depressions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps it 's because the internet can provide quick satisfaction , so people with depressions are more likely to go on the internet ? I mean , people with depressions also tend to eat chocolates and ice cream , to get quick satisfaction , that does n't mean that eating chocolates or ice cream cause depressions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps it's because the internet can provide quick satisfaction, so people with depressions are more likely to go on the internet ?I mean , people with depressions also tend to eat chocolates and ice cream , to get quick satisfaction , that doesn't mean that eating chocolates or ice cream cause depressions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011312</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012504</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>pha7boy</author>
	<datestamp>1264964040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What the writer meant to say is that people who suffer from depression are more likely to spend a lot of time on the internet. The idea that it is unclear if people suffering from depression are drawn to the internet is a cop-out on their part (i.e. oh, we need more money to study this). There have been lots of studies to show that people suffering from depression are more likely to turn inward, and seek to escape their reality via different means (alcohol abuse in the past - internet addiction now).</htmltext>
<tokenext>What the writer meant to say is that people who suffer from depression are more likely to spend a lot of time on the internet .
The idea that it is unclear if people suffering from depression are drawn to the internet is a cop-out on their part ( i.e .
oh , we need more money to study this ) .
There have been lots of studies to show that people suffering from depression are more likely to turn inward , and seek to escape their reality via different means ( alcohol abuse in the past - internet addiction now ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the writer meant to say is that people who suffer from depression are more likely to spend a lot of time on the internet.
The idea that it is unclear if people suffering from depression are drawn to the internet is a cop-out on their part (i.e.
oh, we need more money to study this).
There have been lots of studies to show that people suffering from depression are more likely to turn inward, and seek to escape their reality via different means (alcohol abuse in the past - internet addiction now).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011340</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011702</id>
	<title>Zetsubo-shita!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264961040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm in despair! The internet has left me in despair!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm in despair !
The internet has left me in despair !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm in despair!
The internet has left me in despair!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012084</id>
	<title>Internet = high stimulation</title>
	<author>strstr</author>
	<datestamp>1264962420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>how about: excessive engagement in high stimulating activities such as the Internet, TV and online videogames, that ultimately depletes neurochemicals and at the same time causes a depression when experiencing less stimulating/normal activities? sometimes there really is too much of a good thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how about : excessive engagement in high stimulating activities such as the Internet , TV and online videogames , that ultimately depletes neurochemicals and at the same time causes a depression when experiencing less stimulating/normal activities ?
sometimes there really is too much of a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how about: excessive engagement in high stimulating activities such as the Internet, TV and online videogames, that ultimately depletes neurochemicals and at the same time causes a depression when experiencing less stimulating/normal activities?
sometimes there really is too much of a good thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31019638</id>
	<title>Shouldn't have read this..</title>
	<author>Asadullah Ahmad</author>
	<datestamp>1265315580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In all seriousness, I have been addicted to Internet and computer for 4 years or so, but contrary to the article I have never been so "tension-free". But after reading this, I got a really bad episode of depression or whatever...</p><p>So could this be Placebo or a reality-check?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In all seriousness , I have been addicted to Internet and computer for 4 years or so , but contrary to the article I have never been so " tension-free " .
But after reading this , I got a really bad episode of depression or whatever...So could this be Placebo or a reality-check ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In all seriousness, I have been addicted to Internet and computer for 4 years or so, but contrary to the article I have never been so "tension-free".
But after reading this, I got a really bad episode of depression or whatever...So could this be Placebo or a reality-check?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011978</id>
	<title>Re:The internet is depressing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264962060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>things like AVGN/TGWTG and all the free tv helps too</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>things like AVGN/TGWTG and all the free tv helps too</tokentext>
<sentencetext>things like AVGN/TGWTG and all the free tv helps too</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011518</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012412</id>
	<title>OK</title>
	<author>OpenSourced</author>
	<datestamp>1264963620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm from now on not devoting so much time to the Internet. I'm standing JUST NOW and stopping this whole nonsense of hours-long browsing...</p><p>Who cares, anyway?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm from now on not devoting so much time to the Internet .
I 'm standing JUST NOW and stopping this whole nonsense of hours-long browsing...Who cares , anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm from now on not devoting so much time to the Internet.
I'm standing JUST NOW and stopping this whole nonsense of hours-long browsing...Who cares, anyway?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012482</id>
	<title>Re:Once you've seen a guy fucked to death by a hor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264963920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's kinda hard not to be depressed . . . thank you, Internet.</p></div><p>This is the internet.  Pics/URL or it didn't happen.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's kinda hard not to be depressed .
. .
thank you , Internet.This is the internet .
Pics/URL or it did n't happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's kinda hard not to be depressed .
. .
thank you, Internet.This is the internet.
Pics/URL or it didn't happen.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011858</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011588</id>
	<title>Cause or effect?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn't RTFA but this is the quick question that comes to mind when I read about all those studies... Also, what happens if you stop depressed people from using the Internet, do they feel better, worse, or the same?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't RTFA but this is the quick question that comes to mind when I read about all those studies... Also , what happens if you stop depressed people from using the Internet , do they feel better , worse , or the same ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't RTFA but this is the quick question that comes to mind when I read about all those studies... Also, what happens if you stop depressed people from using the Internet, do they feel better, worse, or the same?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013824</id>
	<title>Re:Awareness of the world</title>
	<author>psithurism</author>
	<datestamp>1264970220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How about: Awareness of the world makes people more depressed.</p></div><p>True for many, but it doesn't serve as a warning sign. People that live in the world are no more or less depressed than, uh...whatever.</p><p>Internet addiction has now been shown to have a link with depression, something we can use to identify those that need help. Actually useful information there.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about : Awareness of the world makes people more depressed.True for many , but it does n't serve as a warning sign .
People that live in the world are no more or less depressed than , uh...whatever.Internet addiction has now been shown to have a link with depression , something we can use to identify those that need help .
Actually useful information there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about: Awareness of the world makes people more depressed.True for many, but it doesn't serve as a warning sign.
People that live in the world are no more or less depressed than, uh...whatever.Internet addiction has now been shown to have a link with depression, something we can use to identify those that need help.
Actually useful information there.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011720</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013640</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264969320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No its true, it happened to my avatar on 2nd life!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No its true , it happened to my avatar on 2nd life ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No its true, it happened to my avatar on 2nd life!!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011312</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014408</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264930260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've got that beat I watch TV on the Internet on my TV!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got that beat I watch TV on the Internet on my TV !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got that beat I watch TV on the Internet on my TV!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011890</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011412</id>
	<title>Other things to think about?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hear that intelligence is also correlated to depression. In this case, is intelligence correlated to internet addicts? If so, it is quite contrary to our expectations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear that intelligence is also correlated to depression .
In this case , is intelligence correlated to internet addicts ?
If so , it is quite contrary to our expectations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear that intelligence is also correlated to depression.
In this case, is intelligence correlated to internet addicts?
If so, it is quite contrary to our expectations.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31019484</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>BigWaveUglyDave</author>
	<datestamp>1264967160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's a third possibility which the article fails to consider:</p></div><p>The third one you bring up rings home for me, absolutely.  I attempted different perspectives and extremes to break my own cycle, most of them never hitting the root cause for depression.
It wasn't until I opened up to my girlfriend about what I wanted in our sex life that I began the steps towards a satisfying sexual relationship.  A few weeks passed by and I noticed I wasn't surfing "sexually gratifying websites", I just didn't need too.

Yea, pr0n isn't a bad thing, nor does it exclusively cause depression. In my case, it was an escape. Like with anything else, overtime the escape is problematic and will muddy the waters.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...anybody ever watch that episode of Coupling where Jeff talks about Cpt. Subtext?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a third possibility which the article fails to consider : The third one you bring up rings home for me , absolutely .
I attempted different perspectives and extremes to break my own cycle , most of them never hitting the root cause for depression .
It was n't until I opened up to my girlfriend about what I wanted in our sex life that I began the steps towards a satisfying sexual relationship .
A few weeks passed by and I noticed I was n't surfing " sexually gratifying websites " , I just did n't need too .
Yea , pr0n is n't a bad thing , nor does it exclusively cause depression .
In my case , it was an escape .
Like with anything else , overtime the escape is problematic and will muddy the waters .
...anybody ever watch that episode of Coupling where Jeff talks about Cpt .
Subtext ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a third possibility which the article fails to consider:The third one you bring up rings home for me, absolutely.
I attempted different perspectives and extremes to break my own cycle, most of them never hitting the root cause for depression.
It wasn't until I opened up to my girlfriend about what I wanted in our sex life that I began the steps towards a satisfying sexual relationship.
A few weeks passed by and I noticed I wasn't surfing "sexually gratifying websites", I just didn't need too.
Yea, pr0n isn't a bad thing, nor does it exclusively cause depression.
In my case, it was an escape.
Like with anything else, overtime the escape is problematic and will muddy the waters.
...anybody ever watch that episode of Coupling where Jeff talks about Cpt.
Subtext?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012568</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011390</id>
	<title>Thats what the internet is for, no?</title>
	<author>[000000]</author>
	<datestamp>1264959900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>more time browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and online communities. What else is on the internet apart from Slashdot?</htmltext>
<tokenext>more time browsing sexually gratifying websites , online gaming sites and online communities .
What else is on the internet apart from Slashdot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>more time browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and online communities.
What else is on the internet apart from Slashdot?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011880</id>
	<title>Re:Comorbidity</title>
	<author>Trepidity</author>
	<datestamp>1264961760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In some cases it's not clear that "linked with personality disorders" actually adds any information, because many personality disorders have no etiology or known mechanism and are simply <i>defined</i> clinically as the presence of a certain set of symptoms. So saying that the symptoms are associated with the disorder doesn't tell you anything, because the disorder is defined as having those symptoms. It's like saying being morbidly overweight is linked with clinical obesity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In some cases it 's not clear that " linked with personality disorders " actually adds any information , because many personality disorders have no etiology or known mechanism and are simply defined clinically as the presence of a certain set of symptoms .
So saying that the symptoms are associated with the disorder does n't tell you anything , because the disorder is defined as having those symptoms .
It 's like saying being morbidly overweight is linked with clinical obesity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In some cases it's not clear that "linked with personality disorders" actually adds any information, because many personality disorders have no etiology or known mechanism and are simply defined clinically as the presence of a certain set of symptoms.
So saying that the symptoms are associated with the disorder doesn't tell you anything, because the disorder is defined as having those symptoms.
It's like saying being morbidly overweight is linked with clinical obesity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011436</id>
	<title>Browsing habits</title>
	<author>malignant\_minded</author>
	<datestamp>1264960020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>These 'internet addicts' spent proportionately more time <i>browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and online communities</i></p> </div><p>I thought thats all the internet is</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>These 'internet addicts ' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites , online gaming sites and online communities I thought thats all the internet is</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These 'internet addicts' spent proportionately more time browsing sexually gratifying websites, online gaming sites and online communities I thought thats all the internet is
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011652</id>
	<title>This Just In:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some people go to bars and get drunk in order not to face reality<br>others use the interweb</p><p>more at 11</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some people go to bars and get drunk in order not to face realityothers use the interwebmore at 11</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some people go to bars and get drunk in order not to face realityothers use the interwebmore at 11</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011900</id>
	<title>Obvious</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264961820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Better informed implies more depressed.  End of story.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Better informed implies more depressed .
End of story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Better informed implies more depressed.
End of story.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011422</id>
	<title>Comorbidity</title>
	<author>ihatewinXP</author>
	<datestamp>1264959960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the long run this will also be likely linked to Aspergers Syndrome and other dissociative / personality disorders that we are diagnosing with much greater frequency today  in that it reduces peoples interactions with actual human beings (at least vs our 'un-evolved' predecessors) to the point where children are not growing up with a firm grasp of social cues in relation to body language, tone of voice, etc....</p><p>Thank Christ I was raised in a time before 4chan....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the long run this will also be likely linked to Aspergers Syndrome and other dissociative / personality disorders that we are diagnosing with much greater frequency today in that it reduces peoples interactions with actual human beings ( at least vs our 'un-evolved ' predecessors ) to the point where children are not growing up with a firm grasp of social cues in relation to body language , tone of voice , etc....Thank Christ I was raised in a time before 4chan... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the long run this will also be likely linked to Aspergers Syndrome and other dissociative / personality disorders that we are diagnosing with much greater frequency today  in that it reduces peoples interactions with actual human beings (at least vs our 'un-evolved' predecessors) to the point where children are not growing up with a firm grasp of social cues in relation to body language, tone of voice, etc....Thank Christ I was raised in a time before 4chan....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013164</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>cl0s</author>
	<datestamp>1264967220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>depressed people are too depressed to do anything requiring activity, so they tend to sit around and watch television or surf the web.</p></div><p>what!? surfing the web isn't an activity?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>depressed people are too depressed to do anything requiring activity , so they tend to sit around and watch television or surf the web.what ! ?
surfing the web is n't an activity ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>depressed people are too depressed to do anything requiring activity, so they tend to sit around and watch television or surf the web.what!?
surfing the web isn't an activity?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011526</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.</p></div><p>Exactly.  And an earlier study showed a correlation between <a href="http://at-risk-youth-support.suite101.com/article.cfm/tv\_watching\_and\_depression" title="suite101.com">television watching</a> [suite101.com] and <a href="http://www.naturalnews.com/025790\_health\_depression\_television.html" title="naturalnews.com">depression</a> [naturalnews.com].  Worth repeating: <b>correlation is not always causation</b>.</p><p>In this case, I could easily see the correlation as: depressed people are too depressed to do anything requiring activity, so they tend to sit around and watch television or surf the web.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.Exactly .
And an earlier study showed a correlation between television watching [ suite101.com ] and depression [ naturalnews.com ] .
Worth repeating : correlation is not always causation.In this case , I could easily see the correlation as : depressed people are too depressed to do anything requiring activity , so they tend to sit around and watch television or surf the web .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.Exactly.
And an earlier study showed a correlation between television watching [suite101.com] and depression [naturalnews.com].
Worth repeating: correlation is not always causation.In this case, I could easily see the correlation as: depressed people are too depressed to do anything requiring activity, so they tend to sit around and watch television or surf the web.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014588</id>
	<title>Re:There could be a link to sleep patterns</title>
	<author>david\_thornley</author>
	<datestamp>1264931100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
On the other hand, depression can lead to sleep problems, including lying in bed as thoroughly unpleasant thoughts weave in the mind.  The best way I've found of dealing with that is to go do something else, which can easily be surfing the net.  Further, depression can make people dread the morning, and so not want to go to bed.
</p><p>
Lack of sleep is very likely involved, but it's going to be hard to find what's cause and what's effect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , depression can lead to sleep problems , including lying in bed as thoroughly unpleasant thoughts weave in the mind .
The best way I 've found of dealing with that is to go do something else , which can easily be surfing the net .
Further , depression can make people dread the morning , and so not want to go to bed .
Lack of sleep is very likely involved , but it 's going to be hard to find what 's cause and what 's effect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
On the other hand, depression can lead to sleep problems, including lying in bed as thoroughly unpleasant thoughts weave in the mind.
The best way I've found of dealing with that is to go do something else, which can easily be surfing the net.
Further, depression can make people dread the morning, and so not want to go to bed.
Lack of sleep is very likely involved, but it's going to be hard to find what's cause and what's effect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011676</id>
	<title>Effect not Cause</title>
	<author>gurps\_npc</author>
	<datestamp>1264960860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someone that is depressed is more likely to stay home/in the office and surf the internet.
<p>
People that are happy go out, see friends, and do things.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone that is depressed is more likely to stay home/in the office and surf the internet .
People that are happy go out , see friends , and do things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone that is depressed is more likely to stay home/in the office and surf the internet.
People that are happy go out, see friends, and do things.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011446</id>
	<title>I don't know...</title>
	<author>Danse</author>
	<datestamp>1264960020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since this study doesn't really show anything conclusive, but only a correlation, it's not really any big deal.  On the other hand, there's a lot of information on the Internet, and a lot of it is pretty depressing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since this study does n't really show anything conclusive , but only a correlation , it 's not really any big deal .
On the other hand , there 's a lot of information on the Internet , and a lot of it is pretty depressing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since this study doesn't really show anything conclusive, but only a correlation, it's not really any big deal.
On the other hand, there's a lot of information on the Internet, and a lot of it is pretty depressing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31018114</id>
	<title>typical scientists</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1264951140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>guess they didn't do their do their homework.</p><p>All the internet has done has made people more aware of the crap that goes on in other parts of the world.<br>Made it so communication is instant.<br>Made it so we don't have to leave our homes anymore.</p><p>But guess what?  Just because you hear of stuff more now, doesn't mean it's happening more.</p><p>The reason it may seem like more people are depressed is not because of the internet, it's because more people now understand what depression is, and will do something about it (see a doctor, etc) then before.   The stigma associated with it isn't like it used to be.  It's okay to see a shrink now, where 20+ years ago it wasn't as much.</p><p>Society isn't getting worse off, what is happening is the crap you didn't know about, or ignored before, is easy to get to now the internet.   That's the only difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>guess they did n't do their do their homework.All the internet has done has made people more aware of the crap that goes on in other parts of the world.Made it so communication is instant.Made it so we do n't have to leave our homes anymore.But guess what ?
Just because you hear of stuff more now , does n't mean it 's happening more.The reason it may seem like more people are depressed is not because of the internet , it 's because more people now understand what depression is , and will do something about it ( see a doctor , etc ) then before .
The stigma associated with it is n't like it used to be .
It 's okay to see a shrink now , where 20 + years ago it was n't as much.Society is n't getting worse off , what is happening is the crap you did n't know about , or ignored before , is easy to get to now the internet .
That 's the only difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>guess they didn't do their do their homework.All the internet has done has made people more aware of the crap that goes on in other parts of the world.Made it so communication is instant.Made it so we don't have to leave our homes anymore.But guess what?
Just because you hear of stuff more now, doesn't mean it's happening more.The reason it may seem like more people are depressed is not because of the internet, it's because more people now understand what depression is, and will do something about it (see a doctor, etc) then before.
The stigma associated with it isn't like it used to be.
It's okay to see a shrink now, where 20+ years ago it wasn't as much.Society isn't getting worse off, what is happening is the crap you didn't know about, or ignored before, is easy to get to now the internet.
That's the only difference.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011858</id>
	<title>Once you've seen a guy fucked to death by a horse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264961640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's kinda hard not to be depressed . . . thank you, Internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's kinda hard not to be depressed .
. .
thank you , Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's kinda hard not to be depressed .
. .
thank you, Internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013352</id>
	<title>Re:Awareness of the world</title>
	<author>laederkeps</author>
	<datestamp>1264967940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sad but true.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sad but true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sad but true.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012056</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>dnahelicase</author>
	<datestamp>1264962360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is that better than being fat?  I keep hearing that obesity is greater among people that spend an above average amount of time watching TV and surfing the web.  I think they must have missed that link.  Internets lead to obesity, obesity leads to poor self image, poor self image leads to depression, depression leads to loneliness, loneliness leads to porn!  Hence the internets only lead to creating porn addicts and pirates.  Which is why we need the FCC watching over the tubes...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that better than being fat ?
I keep hearing that obesity is greater among people that spend an above average amount of time watching TV and surfing the web .
I think they must have missed that link .
Internets lead to obesity , obesity leads to poor self image , poor self image leads to depression , depression leads to loneliness , loneliness leads to porn !
Hence the internets only lead to creating porn addicts and pirates .
Which is why we need the FCC watching over the tubes.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that better than being fat?
I keep hearing that obesity is greater among people that spend an above average amount of time watching TV and surfing the web.
I think they must have missed that link.
Internets lead to obesity, obesity leads to poor self image, poor self image leads to depression, depression leads to loneliness, loneliness leads to porn!
Hence the internets only lead to creating porn addicts and pirates.
Which is why we need the FCC watching over the tubes...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31015506</id>
	<title>Re:Chickens lay eggs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264935540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It takes something close to a chicken to finally lay the mutated-gene filled egg that can be identified as 'the chicken'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It takes something close to a chicken to finally lay the mutated-gene filled egg that can be identified as 'the chicken' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It takes something close to a chicken to finally lay the mutated-gene filled egg that can be identified as 'the chicken'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012938</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264966260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wrong, but a very common mistake.  The sentiment is correct but the epithet is inaccurate.</p><p>In formal logic, the following is true:</p><p>(A &amp; B) =&gt; ((A =&gt; B) | (B =&gt; A))</p><p>(Work through the truth tables if you don't believe me)</p><p>i.e. if two things are correlated, then one causes the other.</p><p>What you mean to say is that correlation is not always causation <b>in the assumed direction</b>.  If A and B are correlated, it could be that A causes B, but it could be that B causes A.  No measurement of correlation alone will tell you which way around this goes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wrong , but a very common mistake .
The sentiment is correct but the epithet is inaccurate.In formal logic , the following is true : ( A &amp; B ) = &gt; ( ( A = &gt; B ) | ( B = &gt; A ) ) ( Work through the truth tables if you do n't believe me ) i.e .
if two things are correlated , then one causes the other.What you mean to say is that correlation is not always causation in the assumed direction .
If A and B are correlated , it could be that A causes B , but it could be that B causes A. No measurement of correlation alone will tell you which way around this goes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wrong, but a very common mistake.
The sentiment is correct but the epithet is inaccurate.In formal logic, the following is true:(A &amp; B) =&gt; ((A =&gt; B) | (B =&gt; A))(Work through the truth tables if you don't believe me)i.e.
if two things are correlated, then one causes the other.What you mean to say is that correlation is not always causation in the assumed direction.
If A and B are correlated, it could be that A causes B, but it could be that B causes A.  No measurement of correlation alone will tell you which way around this goes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014660</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>CarpetShark</author>
	<datestamp>1264931460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What if heavy internet usage is caused by being depressed rather than causing it?</p></div></blockquote><p>Next you'll be coming up with some crazy, way-out theory that people get depressed by habitual negative thinking<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What if heavy internet usage is caused by being depressed rather than causing it ? Next you 'll be coming up with some crazy , way-out theory that people get depressed by habitual negative thinking ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if heavy internet usage is caused by being depressed rather than causing it?Next you'll be coming up with some crazy, way-out theory that people get depressed by habitual negative thinking ;)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31030740</id>
	<title>Isn't this common knowledge?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265302140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We have an age old saying in Finland which goes "Tieto lisaa tuskaa.", roughly translated as "Knowledge brings anguish".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We have an age old saying in Finland which goes " Tieto lisaa tuskaa .
" , roughly translated as " Knowledge brings anguish " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have an age old saying in Finland which goes "Tieto lisaa tuskaa.
", roughly translated as "Knowledge brings anguish".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011842</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1264961580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.</i> </p><p>So, what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions.  Nothing to see here, move along</p></div><p>Of course, these are the fields of psychology and human behavior.  Even the <i>best</i> work done by Pavlov or Skinner aren't 100\% proven.  They are, however, very interesting observations and empirical data that assist us in beginning to understand the human psyche.  You're <i>never</i> going to have a completely proven conclusion from studies and surveys like this.  And the people working within these fields are therefore subjected to the very opposite of what a mathematician or physicist would get if they made similarly sized discoveries in their field.  <br> <br>

The free variables are endless since humans can produce some of the most random and erratic behavior out there.  And you'll <b>never</b> isolate and control <b>all</b> of these variables in your experiments and surveys.  You can certainly hit the most obvious ones but humans are an odd lot.  The hope is that a large enough sample size yields empirical data to make it 'good enough.'  But everyone in the sample was British.  Is there something about that culture or the internet service in that country that adds to depression?  Are internet addicts more depressed in Iran and China because of the censorship?  Less depressed in Scandinavian countries because the internet is cheaper and their culture embraces it?  Who knows?  <br> <br>

The <i>really</i> inconvenient thing these researchers have working against them is that their subjects are humans.  We're not dealing with a poisonous snake that rarely bites but sporadically lashes out 1.2\% of the time so they should always be handled with all sorts of protection<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... no, we're dealing with children and adults, real people.  Similar to early twenties Arabs being constantly hassled at airports, British children might face their mum doling out a hundred quid a week to some shrink who convinced them that he plays video games and surfs online he's more likely to be depressed.  Never mind that the money might have been better spent on food and clothing or even entertainment to fight the alleged depression.  The other problem is that news of this report gives heavy internet usage a bad wrap and it comes to be seen as impurity or a liability or even a counterculture (this might already be happening in some countries).  <br> <br>

I'm not a psychologist, I've read some books but never studied the field.  My direction of thinking would be to have a follow on study where heavy internet users who were also depressed were given surveys before and after completing many hours of internet usage in which they rate their overall mood versus non-internet activities where the same survey is completed.  I think you'll find that depressed people are drawn to it for various reasons and your results would generate random noise and not a trend for mood to drop while using the internet or gaming.  Maybe they feel insecure of their looks or stature in real life and online they're eldavojohn and not the fat kid that gets picked on and beat up at school?  Maybe it's just another escape like Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels were for me as a kid?  Maybe home is a very painful place with separated parents or not enough money or not enough material things so they escape online where everything is virtual?  The possibilities are endless and I hope the public and psychology as a whole learn to look for the root of the problem and not use heavy internet usage as a symptom of a disease.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it .
So , what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions .
Nothing to see here , move alongOf course , these are the fields of psychology and human behavior .
Even the best work done by Pavlov or Skinner are n't 100 \ % proven .
They are , however , very interesting observations and empirical data that assist us in beginning to understand the human psyche .
You 're never going to have a completely proven conclusion from studies and surveys like this .
And the people working within these fields are therefore subjected to the very opposite of what a mathematician or physicist would get if they made similarly sized discoveries in their field .
The free variables are endless since humans can produce some of the most random and erratic behavior out there .
And you 'll never isolate and control all of these variables in your experiments and surveys .
You can certainly hit the most obvious ones but humans are an odd lot .
The hope is that a large enough sample size yields empirical data to make it 'good enough .
' But everyone in the sample was British .
Is there something about that culture or the internet service in that country that adds to depression ?
Are internet addicts more depressed in Iran and China because of the censorship ?
Less depressed in Scandinavian countries because the internet is cheaper and their culture embraces it ?
Who knows ?
The really inconvenient thing these researchers have working against them is that their subjects are humans .
We 're not dealing with a poisonous snake that rarely bites but sporadically lashes out 1.2 \ % of the time so they should always be handled with all sorts of protection ... no , we 're dealing with children and adults , real people .
Similar to early twenties Arabs being constantly hassled at airports , British children might face their mum doling out a hundred quid a week to some shrink who convinced them that he plays video games and surfs online he 's more likely to be depressed .
Never mind that the money might have been better spent on food and clothing or even entertainment to fight the alleged depression .
The other problem is that news of this report gives heavy internet usage a bad wrap and it comes to be seen as impurity or a liability or even a counterculture ( this might already be happening in some countries ) .
I 'm not a psychologist , I 've read some books but never studied the field .
My direction of thinking would be to have a follow on study where heavy internet users who were also depressed were given surveys before and after completing many hours of internet usage in which they rate their overall mood versus non-internet activities where the same survey is completed .
I think you 'll find that depressed people are drawn to it for various reasons and your results would generate random noise and not a trend for mood to drop while using the internet or gaming .
Maybe they feel insecure of their looks or stature in real life and online they 're eldavojohn and not the fat kid that gets picked on and beat up at school ?
Maybe it 's just another escape like Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels were for me as a kid ?
Maybe home is a very painful place with separated parents or not enough money or not enough material things so they escape online where everything is virtual ?
The possibilities are endless and I hope the public and psychology as a whole learn to look for the root of the problem and not use heavy internet usage as a symptom of a disease .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> But it is not clear whether the internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.
So, what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions.
Nothing to see here, move alongOf course, these are the fields of psychology and human behavior.
Even the best work done by Pavlov or Skinner aren't 100\% proven.
They are, however, very interesting observations and empirical data that assist us in beginning to understand the human psyche.
You're never going to have a completely proven conclusion from studies and surveys like this.
And the people working within these fields are therefore subjected to the very opposite of what a mathematician or physicist would get if they made similarly sized discoveries in their field.
The free variables are endless since humans can produce some of the most random and erratic behavior out there.
And you'll never isolate and control all of these variables in your experiments and surveys.
You can certainly hit the most obvious ones but humans are an odd lot.
The hope is that a large enough sample size yields empirical data to make it 'good enough.
'  But everyone in the sample was British.
Is there something about that culture or the internet service in that country that adds to depression?
Are internet addicts more depressed in Iran and China because of the censorship?
Less depressed in Scandinavian countries because the internet is cheaper and their culture embraces it?
Who knows?
The really inconvenient thing these researchers have working against them is that their subjects are humans.
We're not dealing with a poisonous snake that rarely bites but sporadically lashes out 1.2\% of the time so they should always be handled with all sorts of protection ... no, we're dealing with children and adults, real people.
Similar to early twenties Arabs being constantly hassled at airports, British children might face their mum doling out a hundred quid a week to some shrink who convinced them that he plays video games and surfs online he's more likely to be depressed.
Never mind that the money might have been better spent on food and clothing or even entertainment to fight the alleged depression.
The other problem is that news of this report gives heavy internet usage a bad wrap and it comes to be seen as impurity or a liability or even a counterculture (this might already be happening in some countries).
I'm not a psychologist, I've read some books but never studied the field.
My direction of thinking would be to have a follow on study where heavy internet users who were also depressed were given surveys before and after completing many hours of internet usage in which they rate their overall mood versus non-internet activities where the same survey is completed.
I think you'll find that depressed people are drawn to it for various reasons and your results would generate random noise and not a trend for mood to drop while using the internet or gaming.
Maybe they feel insecure of their looks or stature in real life and online they're eldavojohn and not the fat kid that gets picked on and beat up at school?
Maybe it's just another escape like Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels were for me as a kid?
Maybe home is a very painful place with separated parents or not enough money or not enough material things so they escape online where everything is virtual?
The possibilities are endless and I hope the public and psychology as a whole learn to look for the root of the problem and not use heavy internet usage as a symptom of a disease.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011760</id>
	<title>Alternate theory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264961220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, I think the reason I, personally, am depressed is because I'm a heavy internet user and I'm stuck living in <b>FUCKING CENTRAL KENTUCKY.</b></p><p>I'll grant this isn't a diagnosis applicable to everybody, but it's still worth looking in to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I think the reason I , personally , am depressed is because I 'm a heavy internet user and I 'm stuck living in FUCKING CENTRAL KENTUCKY.I 'll grant this is n't a diagnosis applicable to everybody , but it 's still worth looking in to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I think the reason I, personally, am depressed is because I'm a heavy internet user and I'm stuck living in FUCKING CENTRAL KENTUCKY.I'll grant this isn't a diagnosis applicable to everybody, but it's still worth looking in to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012488</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>mqduck</author>
	<datestamp>1264963920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give me a break. Even the title of the story doesn't imply which causes which. Just because they've "only" found a correlation, that doesn't mean there's "nothing to see here".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give me a break .
Even the title of the story does n't imply which causes which .
Just because they 've " only " found a correlation , that does n't mean there 's " nothing to see here " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give me a break.
Even the title of the story doesn't imply which causes which.
Just because they've "only" found a correlation, that doesn't mean there's "nothing to see here".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013280</id>
	<title>Of Course</title>
	<author>assertation</author>
	<datestamp>1264967700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you spend all of your time on the internet you will not be spending time on building a life, so when you get off of the computer and see that you have nothing going on you are going to feel depressed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you spend all of your time on the internet you will not be spending time on building a life , so when you get off of the computer and see that you have nothing going on you are going to feel depressed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you spend all of your time on the internet you will not be spending time on building a life, so when you get off of the computer and see that you have nothing going on you are going to feel depressed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012866</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>revboden</author>
	<datestamp>1264965840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Clearly... heavy internet usage causes loss of girlfriend which causes loss of "getting sum" which causes increased facebook use which causes people to look at old high school pictures which causes people to think about the 80's which causes more internet usage.

It's simple really</htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly... heavy internet usage causes loss of girlfriend which causes loss of " getting sum " which causes increased facebook use which causes people to look at old high school pictures which causes people to think about the 80 's which causes more internet usage .
It 's simple really</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly... heavy internet usage causes loss of girlfriend which causes loss of "getting sum" which causes increased facebook use which causes people to look at old high school pictures which causes people to think about the 80's which causes more internet usage.
It's simple really</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012628</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1264964580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What if heavy internet usage is caused by being depressed rather than causing it?</p></div><p>That would be a link, as in "Heavy internet use linked to depression."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What if heavy internet usage is caused by being depressed rather than causing it ? That would be a link , as in " Heavy internet use linked to depression .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if heavy internet usage is caused by being depressed rather than causing it?That would be a link, as in "Heavy internet use linked to depression.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011716</id>
	<title>Depression leads to Strong Internet activity?</title>
	<author>realsilly</author>
	<datestamp>1264961040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would have to ask, did the scientists test the subjects prior to this study to find out how many had symptoms of depression, or have people in their family that have symptoms of depression before they ever show strong internet activity?</p><p>In our society, with all of the news that is about threats over our heads and the general push to become wealthy, many people are depressed, or show signs of depression.  My suspicion is that heavy users of the internet find freedom and more happiness in their internet activity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have to ask , did the scientists test the subjects prior to this study to find out how many had symptoms of depression , or have people in their family that have symptoms of depression before they ever show strong internet activity ? In our society , with all of the news that is about threats over our heads and the general push to become wealthy , many people are depressed , or show signs of depression .
My suspicion is that heavy users of the internet find freedom and more happiness in their internet activity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have to ask, did the scientists test the subjects prior to this study to find out how many had symptoms of depression, or have people in their family that have symptoms of depression before they ever show strong internet activity?In our society, with all of the news that is about threats over our heads and the general push to become wealthy, many people are depressed, or show signs of depression.
My suspicion is that heavy users of the internet find freedom and more happiness in their internet activity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013962</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264971060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks to a perfect storm of life events, I became profoundly depressed and medications were not helping.  Even when I couldn't get out of bed, the Net gave me an activity I could cope with and a reason to keep going.  It also gave me a social life when the anxiety that went with the depression kept me housebound.  Finally, World of Warcraft repaired my damaged brain chemistry by providing food for my reward centers.  Once my dopamine was back up to normal, I was able to recover.<br>In my case, the internet was the lifeline I needed to get back to health.</p><p>Maybe the increased use the study found was self-medication, and depressed folks who didn't use the Net more were so disabled they were not available for research.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks to a perfect storm of life events , I became profoundly depressed and medications were not helping .
Even when I could n't get out of bed , the Net gave me an activity I could cope with and a reason to keep going .
It also gave me a social life when the anxiety that went with the depression kept me housebound .
Finally , World of Warcraft repaired my damaged brain chemistry by providing food for my reward centers .
Once my dopamine was back up to normal , I was able to recover.In my case , the internet was the lifeline I needed to get back to health.Maybe the increased use the study found was self-medication , and depressed folks who did n't use the Net more were so disabled they were not available for research .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks to a perfect storm of life events, I became profoundly depressed and medications were not helping.
Even when I couldn't get out of bed, the Net gave me an activity I could cope with and a reason to keep going.
It also gave me a social life when the anxiety that went with the depression kept me housebound.
Finally, World of Warcraft repaired my damaged brain chemistry by providing food for my reward centers.
Once my dopamine was back up to normal, I was able to recover.In my case, the internet was the lifeline I needed to get back to health.Maybe the increased use the study found was self-medication, and depressed folks who didn't use the Net more were so disabled they were not available for research.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014044</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Lord Crc</author>
	<datestamp>1264971420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I feel confident that in my case it is the latter. I'll have some periods when I'm really down, and then I usually end up surfing aimlessly for hour upon hour. My gut feeling is that it's to distract my mind, in an effort to avoid thinking about the stuff that gets me down. Not that it helps much...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I feel confident that in my case it is the latter .
I 'll have some periods when I 'm really down , and then I usually end up surfing aimlessly for hour upon hour .
My gut feeling is that it 's to distract my mind , in an effort to avoid thinking about the stuff that gets me down .
Not that it helps much.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I feel confident that in my case it is the latter.
I'll have some periods when I'm really down, and then I usually end up surfing aimlessly for hour upon hour.
My gut feeling is that it's to distract my mind, in an effort to avoid thinking about the stuff that gets me down.
Not that it helps much...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31018156</id>
	<title>Depression Linked to Heavy Internet Use</title>
	<author>thasmudyan</author>
	<datestamp>1264951560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In other news, "researchers" with a less Luddite agenda might have drawn the reverse conclusion: depressive people are more likely to heavily use the internet.</p><p>While there are many causes of depression, we can be reasonably sure that the internet is not causing any of it. However, depressive persons suffer from social problems as a result of their disease and those are problems that can be partially compensated by substituting actual face to face activities (that are often difficult for patients suffering from depression) with interaction through the internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In other news , " researchers " with a less Luddite agenda might have drawn the reverse conclusion : depressive people are more likely to heavily use the internet.While there are many causes of depression , we can be reasonably sure that the internet is not causing any of it .
However , depressive persons suffer from social problems as a result of their disease and those are problems that can be partially compensated by substituting actual face to face activities ( that are often difficult for patients suffering from depression ) with interaction through the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news, "researchers" with a less Luddite agenda might have drawn the reverse conclusion: depressive people are more likely to heavily use the internet.While there are many causes of depression, we can be reasonably sure that the internet is not causing any of it.
However, depressive persons suffer from social problems as a result of their disease and those are problems that can be partially compensated by substituting actual face to face activities (that are often difficult for patients suffering from depression) with interaction through the internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011312</id>
	<title>Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sad, so sad.<br> <br>
Oh, wait.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sad , so sad .
Oh , wait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sad, so sad.
Oh, wait.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013986</id>
	<title>Re:Comorbidity</title>
	<author>myowntrueself</author>
	<datestamp>1264971180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What, so suddenly Asperger's isn't an autism spectrum disorder, ie one that's genetically determined? It's all just social conditioning?</p></div><p>I believe that Asperger's is *self* conditioning.</p><p>People just don't want to take responsibility for anything, not even their own personalities. As if their personality problem is something beyond their control and dictated by 'genetic' disorders.</p><p>I call shenanigans.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What , so suddenly Asperger 's is n't an autism spectrum disorder , ie one that 's genetically determined ?
It 's all just social conditioning ? I believe that Asperger 's is * self * conditioning.People just do n't want to take responsibility for anything , not even their own personalities .
As if their personality problem is something beyond their control and dictated by 'genetic ' disorders.I call shenanigans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, so suddenly Asperger's isn't an autism spectrum disorder, ie one that's genetically determined?
It's all just social conditioning?I believe that Asperger's is *self* conditioning.People just don't want to take responsibility for anything, not even their own personalities.
As if their personality problem is something beyond their control and dictated by 'genetic' disorders.I call shenanigans.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011976</id>
	<title>Correlation is not causation</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1264962060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>were they getting depressed because of surfing, or were they escaping to surfing because of depression.</p><p>i, for one, know from myself that, at points in my life in which i was severely stressed, depressed or in a waiting period for some event (military service etc), was using computer games heavily as an escape and sedative. that way i was able to relieve some of the stress or depression i had. if you are busy with something, you dont get focused on your depression that much.</p><p>i dont think surfing is much different. if those people werent doing that heavy internet usage, they would probably be starting using mild drugs. internet is much better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>were they getting depressed because of surfing , or were they escaping to surfing because of depression.i , for one , know from myself that , at points in my life in which i was severely stressed , depressed or in a waiting period for some event ( military service etc ) , was using computer games heavily as an escape and sedative .
that way i was able to relieve some of the stress or depression i had .
if you are busy with something , you dont get focused on your depression that much.i dont think surfing is much different .
if those people werent doing that heavy internet usage , they would probably be starting using mild drugs .
internet is much better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>were they getting depressed because of surfing, or were they escaping to surfing because of depression.i, for one, know from myself that, at points in my life in which i was severely stressed, depressed or in a waiting period for some event (military service etc), was using computer games heavily as an escape and sedative.
that way i was able to relieve some of the stress or depression i had.
if you are busy with something, you dont get focused on your depression that much.i dont think surfing is much different.
if those people werent doing that heavy internet usage, they would probably be starting using mild drugs.
internet is much better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012500</id>
	<title>Heavy internet use leads to boring jobs...</title>
	<author>Drethon</author>
	<datestamp>1264963980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am often bored at work and browse the internet.  This means that the internet leads to... wait, what?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am often bored at work and browse the internet .
This means that the internet leads to... wait , what ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am often bored at work and browse the internet.
This means that the internet leads to... wait, what?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013880</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1264970580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>h.p. lovecraft would applaud that conclusion:<br> <br>

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age. - H.P. Lovecraft</htmltext>
<tokenext>h.p .
lovecraft would applaud that conclusion : The most merciful thing in the world , I think , is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents .
We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity , and it was not meant that we should voyage far .
The sciences , each straining in its own direction , have hitherto harmed us little ; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality , and of our frightful position therein , that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age .
- H.P .
Lovecraft</tokentext>
<sentencetext>h.p.
lovecraft would applaud that conclusion: 

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents.
We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.
The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
- H.P.
Lovecraft</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014294</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264929660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Al Gore has depression?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Al Gore has depression ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Al Gore has depression?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31019074</id>
	<title>Re:Awareness of the world</title>
	<author>mahadiga</author>
	<datestamp>1264961160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly. I think God would've the most depressed soul.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
I think God would 've the most depressed soul .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
I think God would've the most depressed soul.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31020756</id>
	<title>Really...?</title>
	<author>TigerTails</author>
	<datestamp>1265287980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it would be more appropriate to say "depression is linked to increased internet use". It makes much more sense.

I know MY depression definitely did.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it would be more appropriate to say " depression is linked to increased internet use " .
It makes much more sense .
I know MY depression definitely did .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it would be more appropriate to say "depression is linked to increased internet use".
It makes much more sense.
I know MY depression definitely did.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011890</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1264961760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>And an earlier study showed a correlation between television watching [suite101.com] and depression [naturalnews.com]</i></p><p>wait What?</p><p>I watch Tv on the internet......</p><p>I am so boned.....   CRAP!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And an earlier study showed a correlation between television watching [ suite101.com ] and depression [ naturalnews.com ] wait What ? I watch Tv on the internet......I am so boned..... CRAP !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And an earlier study showed a correlation between television watching [suite101.com] and depression [naturalnews.com]wait What?I watch Tv on the internet......I am so boned.....   CRAP!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012812</id>
	<title>Cue Correlation = Causation</title>
	<author>Mashdar</author>
	<datestamp>1264965480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They are correlated, so clearly there is a causal relationship.<br>
False!</htmltext>
<tokenext>They are correlated , so clearly there is a causal relationship .
False !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are correlated, so clearly there is a causal relationship.
False!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011938</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>iyntsiannaistnyi</author>
	<datestamp>1264961940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's probably obvious, but I did want to point out that depression is very different from "not getting the attention they desire".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's probably obvious , but I did want to point out that depression is very different from " not getting the attention they desire " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's probably obvious, but I did want to point out that depression is very different from "not getting the attention they desire".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011398</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011354</id>
	<title>Maybe confusing cause and effect</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe they are confusing cause and effect, if you are depressed, feel lonely, unable to get out of the house. Surely you are more likely to spend your time doing such indoor activies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they are confusing cause and effect , if you are depressed , feel lonely , unable to get out of the house .
Surely you are more likely to spend your time doing such indoor activies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they are confusing cause and effect, if you are depressed, feel lonely, unable to get out of the house.
Surely you are more likely to spend your time doing such indoor activies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31017556</id>
	<title>I love my internet :P</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264946520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I whole heartedly agree, i was depressed for 17 years before i even got a computer, getting a computer was the best thing that ever happened to me, it was a P.O.S and constantly broke down, which led me to my future in fixing computers and ultimately happiness, instead of constantly trying to figure out ways to "do myself in" i was trying to work out what would be the better graphics card to buy so i could play Devil May Cry<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P Being withdrawn and shy also didnt help me, but once i joined certain internet gaming sites and chat rooms i can now handle visitors in the real world, and find i am way more productive now than i was being a zombified drone. As for the sexual content, damn i have never been so horny in my life so surfing porn is a plus<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P  Yes i am a woman!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I whole heartedly agree , i was depressed for 17 years before i even got a computer , getting a computer was the best thing that ever happened to me , it was a P.O.S and constantly broke down , which led me to my future in fixing computers and ultimately happiness , instead of constantly trying to figure out ways to " do myself in " i was trying to work out what would be the better graphics card to buy so i could play Devil May Cry : P Being withdrawn and shy also didnt help me , but once i joined certain internet gaming sites and chat rooms i can now handle visitors in the real world , and find i am way more productive now than i was being a zombified drone .
As for the sexual content , damn i have never been so horny in my life so surfing porn is a plus : P Yes i am a woman !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I whole heartedly agree, i was depressed for 17 years before i even got a computer, getting a computer was the best thing that ever happened to me, it was a P.O.S and constantly broke down, which led me to my future in fixing computers and ultimately happiness, instead of constantly trying to figure out ways to "do myself in" i was trying to work out what would be the better graphics card to buy so i could play Devil May Cry :P Being withdrawn and shy also didnt help me, but once i joined certain internet gaming sites and chat rooms i can now handle visitors in the real world, and find i am way more productive now than i was being a zombified drone.
As for the sexual content, damn i have never been so horny in my life so surfing porn is a plus :P  Yes i am a woman!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012556</id>
	<title>Re:Such a sad story.</title>
	<author>digitalgiblet</author>
	<datestamp>1264964220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if the internet is caused by depression?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if the internet is caused by depression ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if the internet is caused by depression?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012258</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012374</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264963440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just to let you know, Natural News is one of those whacked out anti-science sites.  You know, pro-homeopathy, pro-naturopathy, anti-vaccine, anti-evidence based medicine.  The same people who thing correlation really does equal causation (for example, the guys who run that site claim vaccines cause autism).  I mean, I'm sure it was just the first link that came up when you searched, but in the future you might want to go with the second link there, because that site is deep in the stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just to let you know , Natural News is one of those whacked out anti-science sites .
You know , pro-homeopathy , pro-naturopathy , anti-vaccine , anti-evidence based medicine .
The same people who thing correlation really does equal causation ( for example , the guys who run that site claim vaccines cause autism ) .
I mean , I 'm sure it was just the first link that came up when you searched , but in the future you might want to go with the second link there , because that site is deep in the stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just to let you know, Natural News is one of those whacked out anti-science sites.
You know, pro-homeopathy, pro-naturopathy, anti-vaccine, anti-evidence based medicine.
The same people who thing correlation really does equal causation (for example, the guys who run that site claim vaccines cause autism).
I mean, I'm sure it was just the first link that came up when you searched, but in the future you might want to go with the second link there, because that site is deep in the stupid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011526</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014174</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe confusing cause and effect</title>
	<author>Mashiki</author>
	<datestamp>1264928940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Maybe they are confusing cause and effect, if you are depressed, feel lonely, unable to get out of the house.</p></div><p>In Canada we call that winter.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they are confusing cause and effect , if you are depressed , feel lonely , unable to get out of the house.In Canada we call that winter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they are confusing cause and effect, if you are depressed, feel lonely, unable to get out of the house.In Canada we call that winter.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011354</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31069794</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>badkarmadayaccount</author>
	<datestamp>1265709660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sad thing is that if this wasn't Slashdot, this would get modded Insightful.<br>*sigh*</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sad thing is that if this was n't Slashdot , this would get modded Insightful .
* sigh *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sad thing is that if this wasn't Slashdot, this would get modded Insightful.
*sigh*</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012056</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012212</id>
	<title>Circular definition</title>
	<author>Simonetta</author>
	<datestamp>1264962840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I quite agree.  So much of psychology  is a matter of circular definitions; which quickly degenerates into psycho-babble that only accentuates the tenuous utility of the psychologists.</p><p>A person is depressed because they spend too much time on their computer; depression is related to computer use; computer use can cause depression; depression is a mental condition that is characterized by the behavior and social interactivity of people who enjoy computer usage; and so on....  Doesn't mean shit, but provides a paycheck to 'professionals' who can't understand why someone else would find C++ fascinating.</p><p>Ignore these people and you'll feel less depressed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I quite agree .
So much of psychology is a matter of circular definitions ; which quickly degenerates into psycho-babble that only accentuates the tenuous utility of the psychologists.A person is depressed because they spend too much time on their computer ; depression is related to computer use ; computer use can cause depression ; depression is a mental condition that is characterized by the behavior and social interactivity of people who enjoy computer usage ; and so on.... Does n't mean shit , but provides a paycheck to 'professionals ' who ca n't understand why someone else would find C + + fascinating.Ignore these people and you 'll feel less depressed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I quite agree.
So much of psychology  is a matter of circular definitions; which quickly degenerates into psycho-babble that only accentuates the tenuous utility of the psychologists.A person is depressed because they spend too much time on their computer; depression is related to computer use; computer use can cause depression; depression is a mental condition that is characterized by the behavior and social interactivity of people who enjoy computer usage; and so on....  Doesn't mean shit, but provides a paycheck to 'professionals' who can't understand why someone else would find C++ fascinating.Ignore these people and you'll feel less depressed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011340</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012398</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Angostura</author>
	<datestamp>1264963560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect it is comments like yours that make people depressed. Just because no causation was demonstrated does not mean that the correlation is not noteworthy. At the very least they are pointing the way to some interesting further research.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect it is comments like yours that make people depressed .
Just because no causation was demonstrated does not mean that the correlation is not noteworthy .
At the very least they are pointing the way to some interesting further research .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect it is comments like yours that make people depressed.
Just because no causation was demonstrated does not mean that the correlation is not noteworthy.
At the very least they are pointing the way to some interesting further research.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011340</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012674</id>
	<title>Re:Comorbidity</title>
	<author>SigILL</author>
	<datestamp>1264964880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>In the long run this will also be likely linked to Aspergers Syndrome</p></div></blockquote><p>Of course, heavy internet use <i>causes</i> Asperger's syndrome and the usual comorbid social anxiety issues, instead of the other way around. How could we have been so stupid <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History\_of\_Asperger\_syndrome" title="wikipedia.org">back in the 1940's?!</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the long run this will also be likely linked to Aspergers SyndromeOf course , heavy internet use causes Asperger 's syndrome and the usual comorbid social anxiety issues , instead of the other way around .
How could we have been so stupid back in the 1940 's ? !
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the long run this will also be likely linked to Aspergers SyndromeOf course, heavy internet use causes Asperger's syndrome and the usual comorbid social anxiety issues, instead of the other way around.
How could we have been so stupid back in the 1940's?!
[wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011422</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012384</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1264963560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, a failure.</p><p>Screw that dumb scientific method thing, in which showing correlation is the first step you take when you think "I suspect that A causes B let us see if that is true".</p><p>Much better to just go and try and prove that is how it works without checking if it's even plausible in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , a failure.Screw that dumb scientific method thing , in which showing correlation is the first step you take when you think " I suspect that A causes B let us see if that is true " .Much better to just go and try and prove that is how it works without checking if it 's even plausible in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, a failure.Screw that dumb scientific method thing, in which showing correlation is the first step you take when you think "I suspect that A causes B let us see if that is true".Much better to just go and try and prove that is how it works without checking if it's even plausible in the first place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011398</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31019228</id>
	<title>Oh noes my god i'm liviing a lie</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264963320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*BANG*</p><p>LOST CARRIER</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* BANG * LOST CARRIER</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*BANG*LOST CARRIER</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011956</id>
	<title>Re:Comorbidity</title>
	<author>Abcd1234</author>
	<datestamp>1264962000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>In the long run this will also be likely linked to Aspergers Syndrome and other dissociative / personality disorders that we are diagnosing with much greater frequency today in that it reduces peoples interactions with actual human beings (at least vs our 'un-evolved' predecessors) to the point where children are not growing up with a firm grasp of social cues in relation to body language, tone of voice, etc....</i></p><p>What, so suddenly Asperger's isn't an autism spectrum disorder, ie one that's genetically determined?  It's all just social conditioning?  Which just need to make sure these children "[grow] up with a firm grasp of social cues"?</p><p>Well that's great news!  You should publish a paper!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the long run this will also be likely linked to Aspergers Syndrome and other dissociative / personality disorders that we are diagnosing with much greater frequency today in that it reduces peoples interactions with actual human beings ( at least vs our 'un-evolved ' predecessors ) to the point where children are not growing up with a firm grasp of social cues in relation to body language , tone of voice , etc....What , so suddenly Asperger 's is n't an autism spectrum disorder , ie one that 's genetically determined ?
It 's all just social conditioning ?
Which just need to make sure these children " [ grow ] up with a firm grasp of social cues " ? Well that 's great news !
You should publish a paper !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the long run this will also be likely linked to Aspergers Syndrome and other dissociative / personality disorders that we are diagnosing with much greater frequency today in that it reduces peoples interactions with actual human beings (at least vs our 'un-evolved' predecessors) to the point where children are not growing up with a firm grasp of social cues in relation to body language, tone of voice, etc....What, so suddenly Asperger's isn't an autism spectrum disorder, ie one that's genetically determined?
It's all just social conditioning?
Which just need to make sure these children "[grow] up with a firm grasp of social cues"?Well that's great news!
You should publish a paper!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011636</id>
	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>Pikkebaas</author>
	<datestamp>1264960740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Correlation, causation, etc.

Oh wait, it's even in TFA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Correlation , causation , etc .
Oh wait , it 's even in TFA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Correlation, causation, etc.
Oh wait, it's even in TFA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012428</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1264963680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And an earlier study showed a correlation between television watching [suite101.com] and depression [naturalnews.com].</p></div><p>And researchers apparently aren't smart enough to realize that depressed people tend to spend most of their time alone, and as such, do solitary activities.  That's not a matter of "doing X because they're depressed" it's "they're alone because they're depressed" and "doing X because they are alone".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And an earlier study showed a correlation between television watching [ suite101.com ] and depression [ naturalnews.com ] .And researchers apparently are n't smart enough to realize that depressed people tend to spend most of their time alone , and as such , do solitary activities .
That 's not a matter of " doing X because they 're depressed " it 's " they 're alone because they 're depressed " and " doing X because they are alone " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And an earlier study showed a correlation between television watching [suite101.com] and depression [naturalnews.com].And researchers apparently aren't smart enough to realize that depressed people tend to spend most of their time alone, and as such, do solitary activities.
That's not a matter of "doing X because they're depressed" it's "they're alone because they're depressed" and "doing X because they are alone".
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011632</id>
	<title>WARNING: This is British sciene reporting</title>
	<author>crazybilly</author>
	<datestamp>1264960680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>British science reporting is <a href="http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/004536.html" title="158.130.17.5">notoriously</a> [158.130.17.5] <a href="http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/004512.html" title="158.130.17.5">bad</a> [158.130.17.5], some would say, <a href="http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2086" title="upenn.edu">incredulously bad</a> [upenn.edu].
<p>
And from TFA:</p><blockquote><div><p>LONDON - People who spend a lot of time surfing the internet are more likely to show signs of depression, British scientists said on Wednesday.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Reader be ware.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>British science reporting is notoriously [ 158.130.17.5 ] bad [ 158.130.17.5 ] , some would say , incredulously bad [ upenn.edu ] .
And from TFA : LONDON - People who spend a lot of time surfing the internet are more likely to show signs of depression , British scientists said on Wednesday .
Reader be ware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>British science reporting is notoriously [158.130.17.5] bad [158.130.17.5], some would say, incredulously bad [upenn.edu].
And from TFA:LONDON - People who spend a lot of time surfing the internet are more likely to show signs of depression, British scientists said on Wednesday.
Reader be ware.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012232</id>
	<title>New term just in time for the DSM-V:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264962900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slashdot Affective Disorder</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot Affective Disorder</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot Affective Disorder</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012400</id>
	<title>Re:Content-free news</title>
	<author>Velorium</author>
	<datestamp>1264963620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For what it's worth, I entirely agree.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For what it 's worth , I entirely agree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For what it's worth, I entirely agree.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012770</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>srussia</author>
	<datestamp>1264965240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>.</p><p>In this case, I could easily see the correlation as: depressed people are too depressed <i>to do anything requiring activity</i>, so they tend to sit around and watch television or surf the web.</p></div><p>I postulate a correlation between doing anything and engaging in some kind of activity.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>.In this case , I could easily see the correlation as : depressed people are too depressed to do anything requiring activity , so they tend to sit around and watch television or surf the web.I postulate a correlation between doing anything and engaging in some kind of activity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> .In this case, I could easily see the correlation as: depressed people are too depressed to do anything requiring activity, so they tend to sit around and watch television or surf the web.I postulate a correlation between doing anything and engaging in some kind of activity.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013056</id>
	<title>Re:Cause or effect?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264966740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pick one. Any one.</p><p>Better: Oh, I'll go for a walk/run/drive/whatever. And if the computer or internet stops working please don't hesitate to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... fsck off.<br>Worse: Ok. Guess I'll shut the curtains and sit in the dark for a few hours then.<br>The Same: Time to go to work, to the job you lost three months ago but you're not telling, and end up in the library or internet cafe...</p><p>(Clinical) Depression is a cycle. Cause and effect go hand in hand. And you can be told that and believe that and it doesn't make a scrap of difference because it's the thing that's doing the knowing which is impaired.</p><p>Slow Slashdot/internet. Maybe lots of people looking at this. Maybe not. Nothing matters in the end. Or the beginning. Or any time inbetween.</p><p>That'll be a worse then, \_with\_ the internet (this time - the mileage will vary. A lot).</p><p>Just spent an hour unplugged. The Same.</p><p>Cause or Effect? Maybe Effect first and then both. I don't matter enough to say, or post under an ID.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pick one .
Any one.Better : Oh , I 'll go for a walk/run/drive/whatever .
And if the computer or internet stops working please do n't hesitate to .... fsck off.Worse : Ok. Guess I 'll shut the curtains and sit in the dark for a few hours then.The Same : Time to go to work , to the job you lost three months ago but you 're not telling , and end up in the library or internet cafe... ( Clinical ) Depression is a cycle .
Cause and effect go hand in hand .
And you can be told that and believe that and it does n't make a scrap of difference because it 's the thing that 's doing the knowing which is impaired.Slow Slashdot/internet .
Maybe lots of people looking at this .
Maybe not .
Nothing matters in the end .
Or the beginning .
Or any time inbetween.That 'll be a worse then , \ _with \ _ the internet ( this time - the mileage will vary .
A lot ) .Just spent an hour unplugged .
The Same.Cause or Effect ?
Maybe Effect first and then both .
I do n't matter enough to say , or post under an ID .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pick one.
Any one.Better: Oh, I'll go for a walk/run/drive/whatever.
And if the computer or internet stops working please don't hesitate to .... fsck off.Worse: Ok. Guess I'll shut the curtains and sit in the dark for a few hours then.The Same: Time to go to work, to the job you lost three months ago but you're not telling, and end up in the library or internet cafe...(Clinical) Depression is a cycle.
Cause and effect go hand in hand.
And you can be told that and believe that and it doesn't make a scrap of difference because it's the thing that's doing the knowing which is impaired.Slow Slashdot/internet.
Maybe lots of people looking at this.
Maybe not.
Nothing matters in the end.
Or the beginning.
Or any time inbetween.That'll be a worse then, \_with\_ the internet (this time - the mileage will vary.
A lot).Just spent an hour unplugged.
The Same.Cause or Effect?
Maybe Effect first and then both.
I don't matter enough to say, or post under an ID.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31013574</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264968900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I watch Tv on the internet......</p></div><p>I watch the Internet on TV. It's like "Pages from Ceefax", but more up-to-date.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I watch Tv on the internet......I watch the Internet on TV .
It 's like " Pages from Ceefax " , but more up-to-date .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I watch Tv on the internet......I watch the Internet on TV.
It's like "Pages from Ceefax", but more up-to-date.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31015088</id>
	<title>Insurance</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264933740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now I find it strange that an insurance company wanted to cut off a depressed person's benefits once they asked the ISP for their internet log.  If they can surf for 12 hours a day they can easily do a job, like typing, for 8 hours a day.  No more benefits for you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I find it strange that an insurance company wanted to cut off a depressed person 's benefits once they asked the ISP for their internet log .
If they can surf for 12 hours a day they can easily do a job , like typing , for 8 hours a day .
No more benefits for you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I find it strange that an insurance company wanted to cut off a depressed person's benefits once they asked the ISP for their internet log.
If they can surf for 12 hours a day they can easily do a job, like typing, for 8 hours a day.
No more benefits for you!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012794</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1264965420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><i>Worth repeating: correlation is not always causation.</i>
<br>
<br>
No, it's not worth repeating.  It is repeated so frequently on slashdot that it actually has a negative effect right now by creating a kneejerk reaction where people automatically assume causation is never correlation, which is frequently wrong.<br>
<br>
And in terms of this story, why would showing causation be the goal, anyway?  If you are trying to create a program to help depressed people, you could easily just not care whether it is the cause or just a symptom, when your focus is to identify people who you want to help.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Worth repeating : correlation is not always causation .
No , it 's not worth repeating .
It is repeated so frequently on slashdot that it actually has a negative effect right now by creating a kneejerk reaction where people automatically assume causation is never correlation , which is frequently wrong .
And in terms of this story , why would showing causation be the goal , anyway ?
If you are trying to create a program to help depressed people , you could easily just not care whether it is the cause or just a symptom , when your focus is to identify people who you want to help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worth repeating: correlation is not always causation.
No, it's not worth repeating.
It is repeated so frequently on slashdot that it actually has a negative effect right now by creating a kneejerk reaction where people automatically assume causation is never correlation, which is frequently wrong.
And in terms of this story, why would showing causation be the goal, anyway?
If you are trying to create a program to help depressed people, you could easily just not care whether it is the cause or just a symptom, when your focus is to identify people who you want to help.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31012102</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>hduff</author>
	<datestamp>1264962480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>But it is not clear whether the Internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.</i> </p><p>So, what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions.  Nothing to see here, move along</p></div><p>On the contrary, it's a perfect article for the Slashdot crowd since it foments introspection and may provide personal insight.</p><p>

In other news, living in your parent's basement is linked to depression.</p></div>
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<tokenext>But it is not clear whether the Internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it .
So , what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions .
Nothing to see here , move alongOn the contrary , it 's a perfect article for the Slashdot crowd since it foments introspection and may provide personal insight .
In other news , living in your parent 's basement is linked to depression .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> But it is not clear whether the Internet causes depression or whether depressed people are drawn to it.
So, what we have here is an article with no actual basis for conclusions.
Nothing to see here, move alongOn the contrary, it's a perfect article for the Slashdot crowd since it foments introspection and may provide personal insight.
In other news, living in your parent's basement is linked to depression.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31011484</id>
	<title>Re:Cause or effect?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Or depressed people spend more time on the internet.  I hate it when they show an effect that could very well be the cause instead.  Damn poor study, if you ask me.</p></div><p>I haven't read the original paper, have you?</p></div>
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<tokenext>Or depressed people spend more time on the internet .
I hate it when they show an effect that could very well be the cause instead .
Damn poor study , if you ask me.I have n't read the original paper , have you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or depressed people spend more time on the internet.
I hate it when they show an effect that could very well be the cause instead.
Damn poor study, if you ask me.I haven't read the original paper, have you?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1630227.31014064</id>
	<title>Re:The next line states...</title>
	<author>Princeofcups</author>
	<datestamp>1264971480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And depression is provably related to imbalances in norepinephrine, serotonin and <strong>dopamine</strong>. I'd love to get a real biologist's take on this research.</p></div><p>Most people, even those of the enlightened slashdot community, do not understand the biochemistry of depression.  It took 5 years of therapy and experimenting with several different anti-anxiety/depression drugs get me out of my 35 years of depression.  During that time I gained a significant understanding of all 3 chemicals, and how they affect your thought processes.  Long term chronic depression is a physical ailment more than a mental one, and it can be treated.</p><p>Most people only know what goes on in their own minds, and assume that it is just the way life is, the way that a moody geek is supposed to think.  They have never experienced the other side, life without all the angst, obsessive-compulsion, anger, feelings of shame and inadequacy.  Life is much better on the other side, and I did not lose any geek productivity.  The drugs are not without their side effects, however, and the trick is to find the right combination with the minimal side effects that do not affect your chosen lifestyle too badly.</p><p>Let me give a concrete example that people here can relate to.  I had to cut up my Civilization III and IV disks after I could not stop playing.  Just one more turn would turn into just one more hour, just two more hours, etc., and another day without much sleep.  My knees would shake when I thought about playing the game.  After remembering my experiences with III, buying IV was like a heroin addict relapse.  This time I'll be able to handle it, I thought.  I couldn't.  Now, with proper meds and understanding of my own mind, I can safely play freeciv for a couple of hours a week, and put it down when I want.  And enjoy it a lot more.</p><p>I did see rumors of Civ V, and I felt a little of the old shakes thinking about it.  I think I'll get it whenever it comes out, but I'll tell my wife to keep the scissors handy, just in case.</p></div>
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<tokenext>And depression is provably related to imbalances in norepinephrine , serotonin and dopamine .
I 'd love to get a real biologist 's take on this research.Most people , even those of the enlightened slashdot community , do not understand the biochemistry of depression .
It took 5 years of therapy and experimenting with several different anti-anxiety/depression drugs get me out of my 35 years of depression .
During that time I gained a significant understanding of all 3 chemicals , and how they affect your thought processes .
Long term chronic depression is a physical ailment more than a mental one , and it can be treated.Most people only know what goes on in their own minds , and assume that it is just the way life is , the way that a moody geek is supposed to think .
They have never experienced the other side , life without all the angst , obsessive-compulsion , anger , feelings of shame and inadequacy .
Life is much better on the other side , and I did not lose any geek productivity .
The drugs are not without their side effects , however , and the trick is to find the right combination with the minimal side effects that do not affect your chosen lifestyle too badly.Let me give a concrete example that people here can relate to .
I had to cut up my Civilization III and IV disks after I could not stop playing .
Just one more turn would turn into just one more hour , just two more hours , etc. , and another day without much sleep .
My knees would shake when I thought about playing the game .
After remembering my experiences with III , buying IV was like a heroin addict relapse .
This time I 'll be able to handle it , I thought .
I could n't .
Now , with proper meds and understanding of my own mind , I can safely play freeciv for a couple of hours a week , and put it down when I want .
And enjoy it a lot more.I did see rumors of Civ V , and I felt a little of the old shakes thinking about it .
I think I 'll get it whenever it comes out , but I 'll tell my wife to keep the scissors handy , just in case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And depression is provably related to imbalances in norepinephrine, serotonin and dopamine.
I'd love to get a real biologist's take on this research.Most people, even those of the enlightened slashdot community, do not understand the biochemistry of depression.
It took 5 years of therapy and experimenting with several different anti-anxiety/depression drugs get me out of my 35 years of depression.
During that time I gained a significant understanding of all 3 chemicals, and how they affect your thought processes.
Long term chronic depression is a physical ailment more than a mental one, and it can be treated.Most people only know what goes on in their own minds, and assume that it is just the way life is, the way that a moody geek is supposed to think.
They have never experienced the other side, life without all the angst, obsessive-compulsion, anger, feelings of shame and inadequacy.
Life is much better on the other side, and I did not lose any geek productivity.
The drugs are not without their side effects, however, and the trick is to find the right combination with the minimal side effects that do not affect your chosen lifestyle too badly.Let me give a concrete example that people here can relate to.
I had to cut up my Civilization III and IV disks after I could not stop playing.
Just one more turn would turn into just one more hour, just two more hours, etc., and another day without much sleep.
My knees would shake when I thought about playing the game.
After remembering my experiences with III, buying IV was like a heroin addict relapse.
This time I'll be able to handle it, I thought.
I couldn't.
Now, with proper meds and understanding of my own mind, I can safely play freeciv for a couple of hours a week, and put it down when I want.
And enjoy it a lot more.I did see rumors of Civ V, and I felt a little of the old shakes thinking about it.
I think I'll get it whenever it comes out, but I'll tell my wife to keep the scissors handy, just in case.
	</sentencetext>
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