<article>
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	<title>OpenOffice Tops 21\% Market Share In Germany</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1265126820000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>hweimer writes <i>"A novel study analyzes the <a href="http://www.quantenblog.net/free-software/openoffice-market-share">installed base of various office packages</a> among German users. (Here is the <a href="http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/01/25/verbreitung-von-office-programmen-openoffice-ueber-21.html">original study report</a> in German and a <a href="http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate\_c?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/01/25/verbreitung-von-office-programmen-openoffice-ueber-21.html&amp;prev=\_t&amp;rurl=translate.google.com&amp;usg=ALkJrhhMxoU3KruLaheluT4ezkgkFFX2EA">Google translation</a>.) While Microsoft Office comes out top (72\%), open source rival OpenOffice is already installed on 21.5\% of all PCs and growing. The authors use a clever method to determine the installed office suites of millions of web users: they look for the availability of characteristic fonts being shipped with the various suites. What surprised me the most is that they found hardly any difference in the numbers for home and business users."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>hweimer writes " A novel study analyzes the installed base of various office packages among German users .
( Here is the original study report in German and a Google translation .
) While Microsoft Office comes out top ( 72 \ % ) , open source rival OpenOffice is already installed on 21.5 \ % of all PCs and growing .
The authors use a clever method to determine the installed office suites of millions of web users : they look for the availability of characteristic fonts being shipped with the various suites .
What surprised me the most is that they found hardly any difference in the numbers for home and business users .
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<sentencetext>hweimer writes "A novel study analyzes the installed base of various office packages among German users.
(Here is the original study report in German and a Google translation.
) While Microsoft Office comes out top (72\%), open source rival OpenOffice is already installed on 21.5\% of all PCs and growing.
The authors use a clever method to determine the installed office suites of millions of web users: they look for the availability of characteristic fonts being shipped with the various suites.
What surprised me the most is that they found hardly any difference in the numbers for home and business users.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006652</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>zaivala</author>
	<datestamp>1265140440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, if OpenOffice.org actually worked as better than or even ALMOST equal to M$ Office, everyone at the small epublishing company I work for would be using it.  But we have spent MANY hours having to fix OOo documents that just don't work in Word, and have had to require M$ Word.  And when we report the bugs, OOo tells us they are not interested in fixing it.

I WANT to use OOo.  I simply can't, it makes my work MUCH harder.  I am happy for those of you who don't have any problems with it.  Usually the only way that I can effectively use an OOo DOC or RTF is to convert it to TXT, open it in Word, and add the formatting back in.

I am one of dozens of people I know who want OOo to work, and they have thumbed their noses at us and others.  I would not need to use a Windoze machine at all if the open-doc office package was available that actually could be used.  (Amazingly, AbiWord has fewer problems -- ad KOffice more-- and Ashampoo Office (for Windoze) even fewer, but still not quite good enough.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , if OpenOffice.org actually worked as better than or even ALMOST equal to M $ Office , everyone at the small epublishing company I work for would be using it .
But we have spent MANY hours having to fix OOo documents that just do n't work in Word , and have had to require M $ Word .
And when we report the bugs , OOo tells us they are not interested in fixing it .
I WANT to use OOo .
I simply ca n't , it makes my work MUCH harder .
I am happy for those of you who do n't have any problems with it .
Usually the only way that I can effectively use an OOo DOC or RTF is to convert it to TXT , open it in Word , and add the formatting back in .
I am one of dozens of people I know who want OOo to work , and they have thumbed their noses at us and others .
I would not need to use a Windoze machine at all if the open-doc office package was available that actually could be used .
( Amazingly , AbiWord has fewer problems -- ad KOffice more-- and Ashampoo Office ( for Windoze ) even fewer , but still not quite good enough .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, if OpenOffice.org actually worked as better than or even ALMOST equal to M$ Office, everyone at the small epublishing company I work for would be using it.
But we have spent MANY hours having to fix OOo documents that just don't work in Word, and have had to require M$ Word.
And when we report the bugs, OOo tells us they are not interested in fixing it.
I WANT to use OOo.
I simply can't, it makes my work MUCH harder.
I am happy for those of you who don't have any problems with it.
Usually the only way that I can effectively use an OOo DOC or RTF is to convert it to TXT, open it in Word, and add the formatting back in.
I am one of dozens of people I know who want OOo to work, and they have thumbed their noses at us and others.
I would not need to use a Windoze machine at all if the open-doc office package was available that actually could be used.
(Amazingly, AbiWord has fewer problems -- ad KOffice more-- and Ashampoo Office (for Windoze) even fewer, but still not quite good enough.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007346</id>
	<title>Re:Getting through the university barrier in the U</title>
	<author>stirz</author>
	<datestamp>1264931100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Interesting. Why should a student deliver a file in some MS Office-format? Our students have to deliver their diploma thesis on a disk/cd together with a printed version. This is because the faculty employs some software solution to track down plagiarism. But nobody is told to give us DOC-files, as PDF (or even plain text) is absolutely sufficient. I could not figure out a single reason why one should want to have a DOC-file apart from the desire to copy/paste usable paragraphs!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting .
Why should a student deliver a file in some MS Office-format ?
Our students have to deliver their diploma thesis on a disk/cd together with a printed version .
This is because the faculty employs some software solution to track down plagiarism .
But nobody is told to give us DOC-files , as PDF ( or even plain text ) is absolutely sufficient .
I could not figure out a single reason why one should want to have a DOC-file apart from the desire to copy/paste usable paragraphs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting.
Why should a student deliver a file in some MS Office-format?
Our students have to deliver their diploma thesis on a disk/cd together with a printed version.
This is because the faculty employs some software solution to track down plagiarism.
But nobody is told to give us DOC-files, as PDF (or even plain text) is absolutely sufficient.
I could not figure out a single reason why one should want to have a DOC-file apart from the desire to copy/paste usable paragraphs!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31014254</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>Maxo-Texas</author>
	<datestamp>1264929360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's complicated.</p><p>I find OOo to be as good as MS Office for most features, better than MS Office for a few features, worse than MS Office for a few features, and completely lacking some newer features which I have no interest in.</p><p>I find OOo and MS Office lacking some features that Google Docs has.</p><p>I assume they'll merge towards each other.  I entered bug reports for missing features which I cared about for OOo back as early as 2004 and all of them have been fixed as of 3.00.  So nothing I need is missing.  If you care about a feature, put it into Bugzilla and vote it up, and in two or three years it will probably be in OOo.</p><p>OOo and GD will still be free as in beer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's complicated.I find OOo to be as good as MS Office for most features , better than MS Office for a few features , worse than MS Office for a few features , and completely lacking some newer features which I have no interest in.I find OOo and MS Office lacking some features that Google Docs has.I assume they 'll merge towards each other .
I entered bug reports for missing features which I cared about for OOo back as early as 2004 and all of them have been fixed as of 3.00 .
So nothing I need is missing .
If you care about a feature , put it into Bugzilla and vote it up , and in two or three years it will probably be in OOo.OOo and GD will still be free as in beer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's complicated.I find OOo to be as good as MS Office for most features, better than MS Office for a few features, worse than MS Office for a few features, and completely lacking some newer features which I have no interest in.I find OOo and MS Office lacking some features that Google Docs has.I assume they'll merge towards each other.
I entered bug reports for missing features which I cared about for OOo back as early as 2004 and all of them have been fixed as of 3.00.
So nothing I need is missing.
If you care about a feature, put it into Bugzilla and vote it up, and in two or three years it will probably be in OOo.OOo and GD will still be free as in beer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006778</id>
	<title>Re:I have introduced a lot of people to OO.org</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264968840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have to say, that I prefer my gal on the pill, but hey, to each their own.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have to say , that I prefer my gal on the pill , but hey , to each their own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have to say, that I prefer my gal on the pill, but hey, to each their own.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31009888</id>
	<title>Re:Resumes and MS Word</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1264953780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you kidding? This is the sort of simple document that an alternate word processor was made for.</p><p>Use whatever you like. Save in whatever MS format you can export in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you kidding ?
This is the sort of simple document that an alternate word processor was made for.Use whatever you like .
Save in whatever MS format you can export in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you kidding?
This is the sort of simple document that an alternate word processor was made for.Use whatever you like.
Save in whatever MS format you can export in.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31012104</id>
	<title>Re:Newsflash: Linux users install fonts, too!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264962480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>apt-cache rdepends ttf-opensymbol<br>ttf-opensymbol<br>Reverse Depends:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; openoffice.org-core<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; mgp<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; extrema</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>apt-cache rdepends ttf-opensymbolttf-opensymbolReverse Depends :     openoffice.org-core     mgp     extrema</tokentext>
<sentencetext>apt-cache rdepends ttf-opensymbolttf-opensymbolReverse Depends:
    openoffice.org-core
    mgp
    extrema</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31010442</id>
	<title>Re:Getting through the university barrier in the U</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264956420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had similar problems, but also found that similar problems exist exchanging<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc formats between different users. The main problem has been with<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.docx being unable to be opened by previous versions of Office (there is an update that allows older versions of Office to open newer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.docx formats.... but does everyone install the Office updates?)</p><p>There are some solutions including trying to see if your<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc submission opens in Google Docs, Think Free or similar. Should not be a problem unless there is something besides straight forward formatting (my main reason for abandoning Office, also that Office is a horrendous memory hog, and I prefer to use Ubuntu).</p><p>One thing that I wished there was wider support for other word processors by EndNote, or that the alternatives to EndNote were better supported by libraries and other academic resources (a common bibliographic format that is widely adopted?)</p><p>Something to consider is that your professors are probably dealing with an increasing number of "the dog ate my homework" variations, including assignment submissions that are impossible to open (a strategy to buy more time... the dog being that "danged computer!") It is not that your professors are being unreasonable or heartless, but in this age of constant budgetary pressures, they all have way too many students to be dealing with document compatibly problems (besides, the university's IT department should have a mechanism where the student submits the work and is able to verify that the submission went through... you do not want your professor playing compatibility analyst while looking your other student's grammar horrors).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had similar problems , but also found that similar problems exist exchanging .doc formats between different users .
The main problem has been with .docx being unable to be opened by previous versions of Office ( there is an update that allows older versions of Office to open newer .docx formats.... but does everyone install the Office updates ?
) There are some solutions including trying to see if your .doc submission opens in Google Docs , Think Free or similar .
Should not be a problem unless there is something besides straight forward formatting ( my main reason for abandoning Office , also that Office is a horrendous memory hog , and I prefer to use Ubuntu ) .One thing that I wished there was wider support for other word processors by EndNote , or that the alternatives to EndNote were better supported by libraries and other academic resources ( a common bibliographic format that is widely adopted ?
) Something to consider is that your professors are probably dealing with an increasing number of " the dog ate my homework " variations , including assignment submissions that are impossible to open ( a strategy to buy more time... the dog being that " danged computer !
" ) It is not that your professors are being unreasonable or heartless , but in this age of constant budgetary pressures , they all have way too many students to be dealing with document compatibly problems ( besides , the university 's IT department should have a mechanism where the student submits the work and is able to verify that the submission went through... you do not want your professor playing compatibility analyst while looking your other student 's grammar horrors ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had similar problems, but also found that similar problems exist exchanging .doc formats between different users.
The main problem has been with .docx being unable to be opened by previous versions of Office (there is an update that allows older versions of Office to open newer .docx formats.... but does everyone install the Office updates?
)There are some solutions including trying to see if your .doc submission opens in Google Docs, Think Free or similar.
Should not be a problem unless there is something besides straight forward formatting (my main reason for abandoning Office, also that Office is a horrendous memory hog, and I prefer to use Ubuntu).One thing that I wished there was wider support for other word processors by EndNote, or that the alternatives to EndNote were better supported by libraries and other academic resources (a common bibliographic format that is widely adopted?
)Something to consider is that your professors are probably dealing with an increasing number of "the dog ate my homework" variations, including assignment submissions that are impossible to open (a strategy to buy more time... the dog being that "danged computer!
") It is not that your professors are being unreasonable or heartless, but in this age of constant budgetary pressures, they all have way too many students to be dealing with document compatibly problems (besides, the university's IT department should have a mechanism where the student submits the work and is able to verify that the submission went through... you do not want your professor playing compatibility analyst while looking your other student's grammar horrors).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31010968</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>rmcd</author>
	<datestamp>1264958220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm curious: Could you elaborate on the comment that openoffice.org "integrates" with LaTeX? I know that OOo can export to LaTeX, but importing doesn't seem to work. Am I missing something?</p><p>I've always thought that the OOo folks (probably the Staroffice folks) missed a *huge* opportunity by not having their equation editor use LaTeX syntax, which would have simplified importing and exporting.</p><p>As an off-topic aside, it's great that Google Docs now uses LaTeX for equations. It's a very cool feature.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm curious : Could you elaborate on the comment that openoffice.org " integrates " with LaTeX ?
I know that OOo can export to LaTeX , but importing does n't seem to work .
Am I missing something ? I 've always thought that the OOo folks ( probably the Staroffice folks ) missed a * huge * opportunity by not having their equation editor use LaTeX syntax , which would have simplified importing and exporting.As an off-topic aside , it 's great that Google Docs now uses LaTeX for equations .
It 's a very cool feature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm curious: Could you elaborate on the comment that openoffice.org "integrates" with LaTeX?
I know that OOo can export to LaTeX, but importing doesn't seem to work.
Am I missing something?I've always thought that the OOo folks (probably the Staroffice folks) missed a *huge* opportunity by not having their equation editor use LaTeX syntax, which would have simplified importing and exporting.As an off-topic aside, it's great that Google Docs now uses LaTeX for equations.
It's a very cool feature.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006062</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>mlts</author>
	<datestamp>1265134620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see this with both the GIMP and OOo.  People market them as Photoshop or OOo clones.  However, they are not.  Marketing them as clones always puts them forever into catchup mode, trailing Microsoft or Adobe.</p><p>I'm not a dedicated artist, so for what I do, the GIMP is an excellent tool.  It does what I need it to, be it resizing pictures, changing formats, some basic touch-up work.</p><p>OOo is similar.  Base is an excellent utility for small database applications (I use it for names/character/places for my SF writings.)</p><p>The key is to offer the product as another tool for the job.  For example, for a bolt, I can use a socket wrench, a crescent wrench, an adjustable wrench, or a set of pliers.  Open Office should be pitched as a crescent wrench to extract a bolt.  Not a socket wrench clone.  Different type of tool, but the job gets done (ceteris paribus.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see this with both the GIMP and OOo .
People market them as Photoshop or OOo clones .
However , they are not .
Marketing them as clones always puts them forever into catchup mode , trailing Microsoft or Adobe.I 'm not a dedicated artist , so for what I do , the GIMP is an excellent tool .
It does what I need it to , be it resizing pictures , changing formats , some basic touch-up work.OOo is similar .
Base is an excellent utility for small database applications ( I use it for names/character/places for my SF writings .
) The key is to offer the product as another tool for the job .
For example , for a bolt , I can use a socket wrench , a crescent wrench , an adjustable wrench , or a set of pliers .
Open Office should be pitched as a crescent wrench to extract a bolt .
Not a socket wrench clone .
Different type of tool , but the job gets done ( ceteris paribus .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see this with both the GIMP and OOo.
People market them as Photoshop or OOo clones.
However, they are not.
Marketing them as clones always puts them forever into catchup mode, trailing Microsoft or Adobe.I'm not a dedicated artist, so for what I do, the GIMP is an excellent tool.
It does what I need it to, be it resizing pictures, changing formats, some basic touch-up work.OOo is similar.
Base is an excellent utility for small database applications (I use it for names/character/places for my SF writings.
)The key is to offer the product as another tool for the job.
For example, for a bolt, I can use a socket wrench, a crescent wrench, an adjustable wrench, or a set of pliers.
Open Office should be pitched as a crescent wrench to extract a bolt.
Not a socket wrench clone.
Different type of tool, but the job gets done (ceteris paribus.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31011026</id>
	<title>Re:99\% of non-techie readers would say "open what?</title>
	<author>NoPane</author>
	<datestamp>1264958400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone with Sun's Java on their system gets an advert for Open Office every time it's updated - Every few months I get several people ask me what it is, and I tell them it's (usually) good enough for their purposes, and morally superior to that knocked off copy of MS Office they "borrowed" from work. Some have converted, but the rest have simply just carried on with "what everybody else uses" - but without paying for it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone with Sun 's Java on their system gets an advert for Open Office every time it 's updated - Every few months I get several people ask me what it is , and I tell them it 's ( usually ) good enough for their purposes , and morally superior to that knocked off copy of MS Office they " borrowed " from work .
Some have converted , but the rest have simply just carried on with " what everybody else uses " - but without paying for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone with Sun's Java on their system gets an advert for Open Office every time it's updated - Every few months I get several people ask me what it is, and I tell them it's (usually) good enough for their purposes, and morally superior to that knocked off copy of MS Office they "borrowed" from work.
Some have converted, but the rest have simply just carried on with "what everybody else uses" - but without paying for it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005732</id>
	<title>All about the fonts, baby</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265131980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's right.  As long as Microsoft controls Zapf Wingdings, OpenOffice will <i>never</i> take off.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's right .
As long as Microsoft controls Zapf Wingdings , OpenOffice will never take off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's right.
As long as Microsoft controls Zapf Wingdings, OpenOffice will never take off.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007284</id>
	<title>Re:If you consider...</title>
	<author>stirz</author>
	<datestamp>1264930560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, I also considered that. But in my experience, StarOffice has never really moved away from its niche. It was heavily promoted by a large number of magazines and put on CDs in the pre-broadband area. During my time at a big German university, I met only one person using StarOffice... it was my girlfriend who switched after MS Word had fried her diploma thesis. Oddly enough, after being bought by sun, the number of OpenOffice-users among my co-students rose sharply. Most of these new users don't even known the ancestry of their new tool up to now. My colleagues here at the chair of production economics (I work for a different university now) mostly used OpenOffice for the first time, when I installed it onto every single PC we have. Most of these colleagues ignored it until some of us used it to produce our new textbook (900 pages of text, hundreds of figures and tables, thousands of formulas) without a single crash. It surely impressed them but sadly not enough to switch... I am still the only one using it for writing my thesis....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I also considered that .
But in my experience , StarOffice has never really moved away from its niche .
It was heavily promoted by a large number of magazines and put on CDs in the pre-broadband area .
During my time at a big German university , I met only one person using StarOffice... it was my girlfriend who switched after MS Word had fried her diploma thesis .
Oddly enough , after being bought by sun , the number of OpenOffice-users among my co-students rose sharply .
Most of these new users do n't even known the ancestry of their new tool up to now .
My colleagues here at the chair of production economics ( I work for a different university now ) mostly used OpenOffice for the first time , when I installed it onto every single PC we have .
Most of these colleagues ignored it until some of us used it to produce our new textbook ( 900 pages of text , hundreds of figures and tables , thousands of formulas ) without a single crash .
It surely impressed them but sadly not enough to switch... I am still the only one using it for writing my thesis... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I also considered that.
But in my experience, StarOffice has never really moved away from its niche.
It was heavily promoted by a large number of magazines and put on CDs in the pre-broadband area.
During my time at a big German university, I met only one person using StarOffice... it was my girlfriend who switched after MS Word had fried her diploma thesis.
Oddly enough, after being bought by sun, the number of OpenOffice-users among my co-students rose sharply.
Most of these new users don't even known the ancestry of their new tool up to now.
My colleagues here at the chair of production economics (I work for a different university now) mostly used OpenOffice for the first time, when I installed it onto every single PC we have.
Most of these colleagues ignored it until some of us used it to produce our new textbook (900 pages of text, hundreds of figures and tables, thousands of formulas) without a single crash.
It surely impressed them but sadly not enough to switch... I am still the only one using it for writing my thesis....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005530</id>
	<title>OpenOffice Tops 21\% of My Dick</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265130600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What, being first post and all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What , being first post and all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, being first post and all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006280</id>
	<title>Re:Newsflash: Linux users install fonts, too!</title>
	<author>Japher</author>
	<datestamp>1265136660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't speak or read German, so I'm relying on the Google translation and a little intuition here, so please bear with me.
<p>
They mention testing for the Open Symbol font as the indicator for an OpenOffice install. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most Linux boxes come with Open Symbol installed? I know Debian does. How can they know that OpenOffice installed the font? I have a laptop on which I have never installed OpenOffice, but I do have XMing and it's font package. Guess what... my system has Open Symbol.
</p><p>
Take that along with the fact that they admit an error of +/-10\% in the Microsoft numbers and it's clear that this study is seriously flawed.
</p><p>
Even if the font they're checking for could only have come from an OpenOffice install, the best they can say is that 21\% of the computers had OpenOffice installed on them at one point. There is absolutely no guarantee that it wasn't removed but left the fonts behind.
</p><p>
I also couldn't find any information about the website they used to collect data. They could have a HUGE sampling bias here. What if, for example, the web site promotes open source software? Or is a resource for programmers and developers? Those users are far more likely to have OpenOffice installed than the average user.
</p><p>
Take this study with a grain of salt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't speak or read German , so I 'm relying on the Google translation and a little intuition here , so please bear with me .
They mention testing for the Open Symbol font as the indicator for an OpenOffice install .
Correct me if I 'm wrong , but do n't most Linux boxes come with Open Symbol installed ?
I know Debian does .
How can they know that OpenOffice installed the font ?
I have a laptop on which I have never installed OpenOffice , but I do have XMing and it 's font package .
Guess what... my system has Open Symbol .
Take that along with the fact that they admit an error of + /-10 \ % in the Microsoft numbers and it 's clear that this study is seriously flawed .
Even if the font they 're checking for could only have come from an OpenOffice install , the best they can say is that 21 \ % of the computers had OpenOffice installed on them at one point .
There is absolutely no guarantee that it was n't removed but left the fonts behind .
I also could n't find any information about the website they used to collect data .
They could have a HUGE sampling bias here .
What if , for example , the web site promotes open source software ?
Or is a resource for programmers and developers ?
Those users are far more likely to have OpenOffice installed than the average user .
Take this study with a grain of salt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't speak or read German, so I'm relying on the Google translation and a little intuition here, so please bear with me.
They mention testing for the Open Symbol font as the indicator for an OpenOffice install.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most Linux boxes come with Open Symbol installed?
I know Debian does.
How can they know that OpenOffice installed the font?
I have a laptop on which I have never installed OpenOffice, but I do have XMing and it's font package.
Guess what... my system has Open Symbol.
Take that along with the fact that they admit an error of +/-10\% in the Microsoft numbers and it's clear that this study is seriously flawed.
Even if the font they're checking for could only have come from an OpenOffice install, the best they can say is that 21\% of the computers had OpenOffice installed on them at one point.
There is absolutely no guarantee that it wasn't removed but left the fonts behind.
I also couldn't find any information about the website they used to collect data.
They could have a HUGE sampling bias here.
What if, for example, the web site promotes open source software?
Or is a resource for programmers and developers?
Those users are far more likely to have OpenOffice installed than the average user.
Take this study with a grain of salt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31009550</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1264952460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with that sort of "marketing" nonsense is that the average user doesn't need something "better".</p><p>They could be content with a 10 year old copy of msoffice if Microsoft would allow that.</p><p>The main value of an alternative for most people is avoiding an expensive upgrade treadmill.</p><p>The honest approach is: "Do you really need a $300 professional word processor?".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with that sort of " marketing " nonsense is that the average user does n't need something " better " .They could be content with a 10 year old copy of msoffice if Microsoft would allow that.The main value of an alternative for most people is avoiding an expensive upgrade treadmill.The honest approach is : " Do you really need a $ 300 professional word processor ?
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with that sort of "marketing" nonsense is that the average user doesn't need something "better".They could be content with a 10 year old copy of msoffice if Microsoft would allow that.The main value of an alternative for most people is avoiding an expensive upgrade treadmill.The honest approach is: "Do you really need a $300 professional word processor?
".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007418</id>
	<title>Resumes and MS Word</title>
	<author>pinkstuff</author>
	<datestamp>1264932060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being a Open Source advocate, I would like not to have MS Office at all. The main problem for me is all recruitment agents demand resumes in MS Word format. While this is ridiculous and I'm sure PDF would be fine for them, they don't budge. So with my hands being tied I begrudgingly bought MS Office for the sole purpose of creating resumes.</p><p>Yes, I know OO can export to Word format, but it's not 100\% perfect - and when it comes to resumes they have to be perfect.</p><p>So the real hurdle is to change peoples mind sets to accept either MS Word, or ODF.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being a Open Source advocate , I would like not to have MS Office at all .
The main problem for me is all recruitment agents demand resumes in MS Word format .
While this is ridiculous and I 'm sure PDF would be fine for them , they do n't budge .
So with my hands being tied I begrudgingly bought MS Office for the sole purpose of creating resumes.Yes , I know OO can export to Word format , but it 's not 100 \ % perfect - and when it comes to resumes they have to be perfect.So the real hurdle is to change peoples mind sets to accept either MS Word , or ODF .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being a Open Source advocate, I would like not to have MS Office at all.
The main problem for me is all recruitment agents demand resumes in MS Word format.
While this is ridiculous and I'm sure PDF would be fine for them, they don't budge.
So with my hands being tied I begrudgingly bought MS Office for the sole purpose of creating resumes.Yes, I know OO can export to Word format, but it's not 100\% perfect - and when it comes to resumes they have to be perfect.So the real hurdle is to change peoples mind sets to accept either MS Word, or ODF.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007540</id>
	<title>Is Slashdot MS-only 00:00-09:00 CET?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264933380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is amazing, after all the stories I have read on slashdot about how OOo is just as useful (although maybe not as good) as MS-Office here we have a story about how in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.de they are at more than 20\% market penetration. Great news! But all I see is nay-sayers and complainers, people saying how they coulndt use OOo because their uni bans it, it crashes all the time, it's not compatible, how it ate their dog etc etc.</p><p>This shows something very interesting to me about the demographics of slashdot. During the european nighttime, especially after midnight CET, the demographic of slashdot is almost entirely USians.  It's strange, since during the day, European time, slashdot is overwhelmingly pro-FOSS, but at night the opposite happens. This article was posted at 11pm slashdot time (GMT -5). 5am CET, 4am UK and Ireland time.</p><p>And what kind of comments do we get while the europeans are asleep?  Overwhelmingly MS shills and anti-FOSS FUD. It's very enlightening. A pro FOSS success story posted, and the comments call into question the results, the methodology, the usefulness, the product itself, everything. It's a marketers dream. I would look to see if other pro-FOSS articles are gamed in this way, and if it depends on the time it's posted, but Im at work now.</p><p>Perhaps someone could investigate further.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is amazing , after all the stories I have read on slashdot about how OOo is just as useful ( although maybe not as good ) as MS-Office here we have a story about how in .de they are at more than 20 \ % market penetration .
Great news !
But all I see is nay-sayers and complainers , people saying how they coulndt use OOo because their uni bans it , it crashes all the time , it 's not compatible , how it ate their dog etc etc.This shows something very interesting to me about the demographics of slashdot .
During the european nighttime , especially after midnight CET , the demographic of slashdot is almost entirely USians .
It 's strange , since during the day , European time , slashdot is overwhelmingly pro-FOSS , but at night the opposite happens .
This article was posted at 11pm slashdot time ( GMT -5 ) .
5am CET , 4am UK and Ireland time.And what kind of comments do we get while the europeans are asleep ?
Overwhelmingly MS shills and anti-FOSS FUD .
It 's very enlightening .
A pro FOSS success story posted , and the comments call into question the results , the methodology , the usefulness , the product itself , everything .
It 's a marketers dream .
I would look to see if other pro-FOSS articles are gamed in this way , and if it depends on the time it 's posted , but Im at work now.Perhaps someone could investigate further .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is amazing, after all the stories I have read on slashdot about how OOo is just as useful (although maybe not as good) as MS-Office here we have a story about how in .de they are at more than 20\% market penetration.
Great news!
But all I see is nay-sayers and complainers, people saying how they coulndt use OOo because their uni bans it, it crashes all the time, it's not compatible, how it ate their dog etc etc.This shows something very interesting to me about the demographics of slashdot.
During the european nighttime, especially after midnight CET, the demographic of slashdot is almost entirely USians.
It's strange, since during the day, European time, slashdot is overwhelmingly pro-FOSS, but at night the opposite happens.
This article was posted at 11pm slashdot time (GMT -5).
5am CET, 4am UK and Ireland time.And what kind of comments do we get while the europeans are asleep?
Overwhelmingly MS shills and anti-FOSS FUD.
It's very enlightening.
A pro FOSS success story posted, and the comments call into question the results, the methodology, the usefulness, the product itself, everything.
It's a marketers dream.
I would look to see if other pro-FOSS articles are gamed in this way, and if it depends on the time it's posted, but Im at work now.Perhaps someone could investigate further.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006356</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>plague911</author>
	<datestamp>1265137320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The difference is that you have to pay more to have Microsoft office on your computer where Open office is free. Vs a kinda free IE and a free Firefox. Those are significant differences.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The difference is that you have to pay more to have Microsoft office on your computer where Open office is free .
Vs a kinda free IE and a free Firefox .
Those are significant differences .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The difference is that you have to pay more to have Microsoft office on your computer where Open office is free.
Vs a kinda free IE and a free Firefox.
Those are significant differences.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31029396</id>
	<title>Re:Newsflash: Linux users install fonts, too!</title>
	<author>Japher</author>
	<datestamp>1265291220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google translates that at 100,000 webPAGES for me. Not webSITES. If the proper translation is websites, then the study is a little more credible. But not much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google translates that at 100,000 webPAGES for me .
Not webSITES .
If the proper translation is websites , then the study is a little more credible .
But not much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google translates that at 100,000 webPAGES for me.
Not webSITES.
If the proper translation is websites, then the study is a little more credible.
But not much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007334</id>
	<title>Re:Forget openoffice</title>
	<author>A12m0v</author>
	<datestamp>1264931040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use IBM Lotus Symphony on Mac, Linux/GNU and Windows; and I'm thankful for Sun and OpenOffice.org.</p><p><b>Forgetting OO.o is unfair to all the effort put through by Sun and the community.</b></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use IBM Lotus Symphony on Mac , Linux/GNU and Windows ; and I 'm thankful for Sun and OpenOffice.org.Forgetting OO.o is unfair to all the effort put through by Sun and the community .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use IBM Lotus Symphony on Mac, Linux/GNU and Windows; and I'm thankful for Sun and OpenOffice.org.Forgetting OO.o is unfair to all the effort put through by Sun and the community.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008402</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>oudzeeman</author>
	<datestamp>1264944420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Right now, I am giving presentations with impress. Slides to the projector, and my presenter screen on the laptop has the slide, the next slide, presenters notes and a clock."

Powerpoint can do that (at least the Mac version) as long as you don't setup the projector as a mirror of your desktop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Right now , I am giving presentations with impress .
Slides to the projector , and my presenter screen on the laptop has the slide , the next slide , presenters notes and a clock .
" Powerpoint can do that ( at least the Mac version ) as long as you do n't setup the projector as a mirror of your desktop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Right now, I am giving presentations with impress.
Slides to the projector, and my presenter screen on the laptop has the slide, the next slide, presenters notes and a clock.
"

Powerpoint can do that (at least the Mac version) as long as you don't setup the projector as a mirror of your desktop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005796</id>
	<title>Information leakage</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1265132520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>they look for the availability of characteristic fonts being shipped with the various suites.</p></div></blockquote><p>I love that my web browser can broadcast which office suite I am using.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>they look for the availability of characteristic fonts being shipped with the various suites.I love that my web browser can broadcast which office suite I am using .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they look for the availability of characteristic fonts being shipped with the various suites.I love that my web browser can broadcast which office suite I am using.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31010670</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>Cow Jones</author>
	<datestamp>1264957200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Right now, I am giving presentations with impress.</p></div><p>Maybe you shouldn't post to Slashdot while you're giving a presentation...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Right now , I am giving presentations with impress.Maybe you should n't post to Slashdot while you 're giving a presentation.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right now, I am giving presentations with impress.Maybe you shouldn't post to Slashdot while you're giving a presentation...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31010038</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264954440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, but for long time that was just not the case. Firefox or Phoenix lagged behind.</p><p>The same will happen with OpenOffice 3. The 3.2 version resolves the remaining glitches for me. And OO.org is ribbon-free! That is a sales argument. Expect OO.org 3.3 to be even better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but for long time that was just not the case .
Firefox or Phoenix lagged behind.The same will happen with OpenOffice 3 .
The 3.2 version resolves the remaining glitches for me .
And OO.org is ribbon-free !
That is a sales argument .
Expect OO.org 3.3 to be even better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but for long time that was just not the case.
Firefox or Phoenix lagged behind.The same will happen with OpenOffice 3.
The 3.2 version resolves the remaining glitches for me.
And OO.org is ribbon-free!
That is a sales argument.
Expect OO.org 3.3 to be even better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31015850</id>
	<title>All of the Above comments are UNTRUE.</title>
	<author>design1066</author>
	<datestamp>1264936920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok People, Enough with the OO vs MSO flamewar.<br>

Here is the TRUTH about software.<br>

95\% of people have trouble learning anything on the computer because everything is naturally structure in cause and effect relationships.  They actually have to spend large amounts of time learning how to do "simple" tasks in any computer program.  These are smart people BTW.  Once they learn where commands are and the STEPS (as opposed to concepts) to get a certain task done. They are happy to repeat these steps to gain productivity.<br>

They do NOT want to learn new steps, new menus, new shortcuts, but instead of subconsciously understanding why they are frustrated they simply state that the new product is inferior rather than realize that it is not inferior, just different, quite often in very subtle ways.  <br>

This is true with any software.  Take Autocad vs Microstation for instance.  I use both very proficiently and am constantly having to listen to intelligent engineers argue over which is the &ldquo;Better&rdquo; platform..  In 100 percent of the cases I ask what software their first Job was using and it is the platform they promote.<br>

If you used Word for ten years then you will probably have trouble learning OOO and will be more productive in Word. <br>

Soft ware is a tool. People in these arguments all too often forget that is not what you use to write that matters but what you write with what you use.<br>

Congrats to open office for their contribution to the myriad of software available.  It is significant and respectable.<br>

All of you should be grateful that your lives are so blessed that you can actually argue about this crap instead of wondering how to survive the next week.  Shut up, Get off your high horses and do something good for the world.<br>

And in conclusion OOO is better. LOL</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok People , Enough with the OO vs MSO flamewar .
Here is the TRUTH about software .
95 \ % of people have trouble learning anything on the computer because everything is naturally structure in cause and effect relationships .
They actually have to spend large amounts of time learning how to do " simple " tasks in any computer program .
These are smart people BTW .
Once they learn where commands are and the STEPS ( as opposed to concepts ) to get a certain task done .
They are happy to repeat these steps to gain productivity .
They do NOT want to learn new steps , new menus , new shortcuts , but instead of subconsciously understanding why they are frustrated they simply state that the new product is inferior rather than realize that it is not inferior , just different , quite often in very subtle ways .
This is true with any software .
Take Autocad vs Microstation for instance .
I use both very proficiently and am constantly having to listen to intelligent engineers argue over which is the    Better    platform.. In 100 percent of the cases I ask what software their first Job was using and it is the platform they promote .
If you used Word for ten years then you will probably have trouble learning OOO and will be more productive in Word .
Soft ware is a tool .
People in these arguments all too often forget that is not what you use to write that matters but what you write with what you use .
Congrats to open office for their contribution to the myriad of software available .
It is significant and respectable .
All of you should be grateful that your lives are so blessed that you can actually argue about this crap instead of wondering how to survive the next week .
Shut up , Get off your high horses and do something good for the world .
And in conclusion OOO is better .
LOL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok People, Enough with the OO vs MSO flamewar.
Here is the TRUTH about software.
95\% of people have trouble learning anything on the computer because everything is naturally structure in cause and effect relationships.
They actually have to spend large amounts of time learning how to do "simple" tasks in any computer program.
These are smart people BTW.
Once they learn where commands are and the STEPS (as opposed to concepts) to get a certain task done.
They are happy to repeat these steps to gain productivity.
They do NOT want to learn new steps, new menus, new shortcuts, but instead of subconsciously understanding why they are frustrated they simply state that the new product is inferior rather than realize that it is not inferior, just different, quite often in very subtle ways.
This is true with any software.
Take Autocad vs Microstation for instance.
I use both very proficiently and am constantly having to listen to intelligent engineers argue over which is the “Better” platform..  In 100 percent of the cases I ask what software their first Job was using and it is the platform they promote.
If you used Word for ten years then you will probably have trouble learning OOO and will be more productive in Word.
Soft ware is a tool.
People in these arguments all too often forget that is not what you use to write that matters but what you write with what you use.
Congrats to open office for their contribution to the myriad of software available.
It is significant and respectable.
All of you should be grateful that your lives are so blessed that you can actually argue about this crap instead of wondering how to survive the next week.
Shut up, Get off your high horses and do something good for the world.
And in conclusion OOO is better.
LOL</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007124</id>
	<title>Re:99\% of non-techie readers would say "open what?</title>
	<author>Bill, Shooter of Bul</author>
	<datestamp>1264928940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The vast majority of my friends are not tech savy. Many of them use open office. I'd put it at around the 30\%. Those that don't use it, know what it is. I'm not aware of any personal contacts that do not know what it is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The vast majority of my friends are not tech savy .
Many of them use open office .
I 'd put it at around the 30 \ % .
Those that do n't use it , know what it is .
I 'm not aware of any personal contacts that do not know what it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The vast majority of my friends are not tech savy.
Many of them use open office.
I'd put it at around the 30\%.
Those that don't use it, know what it is.
I'm not aware of any personal contacts that do not know what it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007232</id>
	<title>Re:Newsflash: Linux users install fonts, too!</title>
	<author>moronoxyd</author>
	<datestamp>1264929840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the article:<br>"Die Daten wurden durch den FlashCounter Statistik-Service bei mehr als einer Million deutschsprachiger Internetnutzer auf &#252;ber 100.000 Webseiten ermittelt. "</p><p>Roughly translates to "the data was collect via the FlashCounter statistics service from more than 1 million German speaking users on more than 100.00 websites."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the article : " Die Daten wurden durch den FlashCounter Statistik-Service bei mehr als einer Million deutschsprachiger Internetnutzer auf   ber 100.000 Webseiten ermittelt .
" Roughly translates to " the data was collect via the FlashCounter statistics service from more than 1 million German speaking users on more than 100.00 websites .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the article:"Die Daten wurden durch den FlashCounter Statistik-Service bei mehr als einer Million deutschsprachiger Internetnutzer auf über 100.000 Webseiten ermittelt.
"Roughly translates to "the data was collect via the FlashCounter statistics service from more than 1 million German speaking users on more than 100.00 websites.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006280</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007684</id>
	<title>wup</title>
	<author>muckracer</author>
	<datestamp>1264935240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, we could always use the data gathered by the Windows Update Tool and get real and precise data of installed packages...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , we could always use the data gathered by the Windows Update Tool and get real and precise data of installed packages.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, we could always use the data gathered by the Windows Update Tool and get real and precise data of installed packages...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005552</id>
	<title>Repeat...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265130900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn't we already have this story today?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't we already have this story today ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't we already have this story today?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006038</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265134320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The problem I see with OOo is that it is marketed and used as "hey, there is a free (as in beer) MS Office clone!" rather than "Hey, this is better than MS Office"</p></div></blockquote><p>

It's not going to be "better" than MS Office as long as<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc remains the <i>de facto</i> format. There are headhunters who require<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc resumes, entire departments who use only<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc, and there are professors who require<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc assignment submissions.<br> <br>

One infuriating "feature" of OOo is the inability to <i>permanently</i> disable that annoying auto-numbering and auto-bulleting. The help and searches reveal that you have to manually turn one or the other off <i>each time</i> it thinks you want a list when you don't. It's especially annoying for writing code-style, where tabs and indents are done manually.<br> <br>

And, in <i>Math</i>, formulas don't render correctly when converted to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc, at least not when printed from a Windows computer. Multiplication symbols show up as hollow checkboxes. It's impossible to use superscripts and subscripts simultaneously, as when using chemical symbols (in before "use TeX").</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem I see with OOo is that it is marketed and used as " hey , there is a free ( as in beer ) MS Office clone !
" rather than " Hey , this is better than MS Office " It 's not going to be " better " than MS Office as long as .doc remains the de facto format .
There are headhunters who require .doc resumes , entire departments who use only .doc , and there are professors who require .doc assignment submissions .
One infuriating " feature " of OOo is the inability to permanently disable that annoying auto-numbering and auto-bulleting .
The help and searches reveal that you have to manually turn one or the other off each time it thinks you want a list when you do n't .
It 's especially annoying for writing code-style , where tabs and indents are done manually .
And , in Math , formulas do n't render correctly when converted to .doc , at least not when printed from a Windows computer .
Multiplication symbols show up as hollow checkboxes .
It 's impossible to use superscripts and subscripts simultaneously , as when using chemical symbols ( in before " use TeX " ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem I see with OOo is that it is marketed and used as "hey, there is a free (as in beer) MS Office clone!
" rather than "Hey, this is better than MS Office"

It's not going to be "better" than MS Office as long as .doc remains the de facto format.
There are headhunters who require .doc resumes, entire departments who use only .doc, and there are professors who require .doc assignment submissions.
One infuriating "feature" of OOo is the inability to permanently disable that annoying auto-numbering and auto-bulleting.
The help and searches reveal that you have to manually turn one or the other off each time it thinks you want a list when you don't.
It's especially annoying for writing code-style, where tabs and indents are done manually.
And, in Math, formulas don't render correctly when converted to .doc, at least not when printed from a Windows computer.
Multiplication symbols show up as hollow checkboxes.
It's impossible to use superscripts and subscripts simultaneously, as when using chemical symbols (in before "use TeX").
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005698</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008256</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1264942260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In fact, most people who says OpenOffice really lacks behind are those who want it to be compatible 100\% with MS Office (but don't ask MS Office to be compatible with OO).<br> <br>
My only criticism of a missing feature is the lack of a grammar tool for the French language in OO.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , most people who says OpenOffice really lacks behind are those who want it to be compatible 100 \ % with MS Office ( but do n't ask MS Office to be compatible with OO ) .
My only criticism of a missing feature is the lack of a grammar tool for the French language in OO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, most people who says OpenOffice really lacks behind are those who want it to be compatible 100\% with MS Office (but don't ask MS Office to be compatible with OO).
My only criticism of a missing feature is the lack of a grammar tool for the French language in OO.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006106</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31009180</id>
	<title>Re:Information leakage</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264950420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The kicker is that it's too late to fix it now.  The Freemasons, Jews, and Illuminati already have that information and are secretly using it for devious purposes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The kicker is that it 's too late to fix it now .
The Freemasons , Jews , and Illuminati already have that information and are secretly using it for devious purposes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The kicker is that it's too late to fix it now.
The Freemasons, Jews, and Illuminati already have that information and are secretly using it for devious purposes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005796</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006172</id>
	<title>Re:Getting through the university barrier in the U</title>
	<author>amiga500</author>
	<datestamp>1265135520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I managed to complete a post-graduate course using Open Office.  Assignments were given as Word documents, and needed to be submitted as the same.  I always saved in Word 2000 format and my professors never had a problem.

If Word was offered at the same price as OO, I would buy Word.  I've only used OO because I'm too cheap and don't using office apps enough at home to justify the price.  I wish OO were better than MS Office, but it's far behind.  When ever I try to format text Writer never does what I want.  I've tried drawing diagrams in Draw but soon gave up due to the poor interface, and Impress, well that's the worst of the lot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I managed to complete a post-graduate course using Open Office .
Assignments were given as Word documents , and needed to be submitted as the same .
I always saved in Word 2000 format and my professors never had a problem .
If Word was offered at the same price as OO , I would buy Word .
I 've only used OO because I 'm too cheap and do n't using office apps enough at home to justify the price .
I wish OO were better than MS Office , but it 's far behind .
When ever I try to format text Writer never does what I want .
I 've tried drawing diagrams in Draw but soon gave up due to the poor interface , and Impress , well that 's the worst of the lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I managed to complete a post-graduate course using Open Office.
Assignments were given as Word documents, and needed to be submitted as the same.
I always saved in Word 2000 format and my professors never had a problem.
If Word was offered at the same price as OO, I would buy Word.
I've only used OO because I'm too cheap and don't using office apps enough at home to justify the price.
I wish OO were better than MS Office, but it's far behind.
When ever I try to format text Writer never does what I want.
I've tried drawing diagrams in Draw but soon gave up due to the poor interface, and Impress, well that's the worst of the lot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006022</id>
	<title>Re:Getting through the university barrier in the U</title>
	<author>Macrat</author>
	<datestamp>1265134200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>PDF?</htmltext>
<tokenext>PDF ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PDF?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31011038</id>
	<title>Re:All about the fonts, baby</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264958460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let get the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w240Cbz4Xe0" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Zapf Wingdings back</a> [youtube.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let get the Zapf Wingdings back [ youtube.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let get the Zapf Wingdings back [youtube.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005732</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31011746</id>
	<title>flaw</title>
	<author>proslack</author>
	<datestamp>1264961220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Installed base isn't necessarily the same as number of active users. I've got a bunch of software on my computer than I haven't used since the initial install.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Installed base is n't necessarily the same as number of active users .
I 've got a bunch of software on my computer than I have n't used since the initial install .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Installed base isn't necessarily the same as number of active users.
I've got a bunch of software on my computer than I haven't used since the initial install.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006158</id>
	<title>Re:methodology?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265135340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's been a long time since I walked into an office environment without internet access.  Seems like a good portion of even the run-down, niche-market small businesses even have a hotspot.  I think it's a stretch to make your assertion "a lot of businesses don't allow internet access".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's been a long time since I walked into an office environment without internet access .
Seems like a good portion of even the run-down , niche-market small businesses even have a hotspot .
I think it 's a stretch to make your assertion " a lot of businesses do n't allow internet access " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's been a long time since I walked into an office environment without internet access.
Seems like a good portion of even the run-down, niche-market small businesses even have a hotspot.
I think it's a stretch to make your assertion "a lot of businesses don't allow internet access".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005522</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31010654</id>
	<title>Re:If you consider...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264957140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I beg to differ. As far as my memory goes, StarOffice was never wildly popular in Germany in the 90s. Microsoft Office was the dominant office suite for the entirety of the 90's. StarOffice wasn't really useful until 1996 and made notoriously bad gui design choices with version 5.0, which came about two years later.</p><p>It was quite popular as a "full version" on CD's in computer magazines though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I beg to differ .
As far as my memory goes , StarOffice was never wildly popular in Germany in the 90s .
Microsoft Office was the dominant office suite for the entirety of the 90 's .
StarOffice was n't really useful until 1996 and made notoriously bad gui design choices with version 5.0 , which came about two years later.It was quite popular as a " full version " on CD 's in computer magazines though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I beg to differ.
As far as my memory goes, StarOffice was never wildly popular in Germany in the 90s.
Microsoft Office was the dominant office suite for the entirety of the 90's.
StarOffice wasn't really useful until 1996 and made notoriously bad gui design choices with version 5.0, which came about two years later.It was quite popular as a "full version" on CD's in computer magazines though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005570</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008598</id>
	<title>File format is the real problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264946400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>Microsoft proprietary formats are the problem.<br>Everyone actually is used to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.DOC,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.XLS and such.<br>Many government/agencies/business only accept submissions in "Word" format. Until we "fix this issue" in the whole world, no way OO can take over M$ Office.<br>That's sad, you know.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft proprietary formats are the problem.Everyone actually is used to .DOC , .XLS and such.Many government/agencies/business only accept submissions in " Word " format .
Until we " fix this issue " in the whole world , no way OO can take over M $ Office.That 's sad , you know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft proprietary formats are the problem.Everyone actually is used to .DOC, .XLS and such.Many government/agencies/business only accept submissions in "Word" format.
Until we "fix this issue" in the whole world, no way OO can take over M$ Office.That's sad, you know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007332</id>
	<title>Re:Getting through the university barrier in the U</title>
	<author>Undead Waffle</author>
	<datestamp>1264931040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've never had a document saved in OpenOffice fail to open in normal Office, though I admit I haven't tried it very many times. Formatting can be different, yes, but it still opens. You better be careful to change that Office 2007 to save as<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc instead of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.docx by default or your professors won't be able to open them unless they're using Office 2007 as well. Oh and by the way if they're using Office 2007 you could have just stuck to OpenOffice with<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.odt files since Office 2007 now supports them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never had a document saved in OpenOffice fail to open in normal Office , though I admit I have n't tried it very many times .
Formatting can be different , yes , but it still opens .
You better be careful to change that Office 2007 to save as .doc instead of .docx by default or your professors wo n't be able to open them unless they 're using Office 2007 as well .
Oh and by the way if they 're using Office 2007 you could have just stuck to OpenOffice with .odt files since Office 2007 now supports them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never had a document saved in OpenOffice fail to open in normal Office, though I admit I haven't tried it very many times.
Formatting can be different, yes, but it still opens.
You better be careful to change that Office 2007 to save as .doc instead of .docx by default or your professors won't be able to open them unless they're using Office 2007 as well.
Oh and by the way if they're using Office 2007 you could have just stuck to OpenOffice with .odt files since Office 2007 now supports them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006574</id>
	<title>Submitting final documents in .doc format ??</title>
	<author>bradley13</author>
	<datestamp>1265139600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That is a school (and prof) in need of a clue. No one should submit finished documents in an editable format. Formatting problems, accidental changes, <i>intentional</i> changes - this is just asking for trouble. If the school's anti-plagiarism software can't deal with PDFs, it is bad software and ought to be replaced.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is a school ( and prof ) in need of a clue .
No one should submit finished documents in an editable format .
Formatting problems , accidental changes , intentional changes - this is just asking for trouble .
If the school 's anti-plagiarism software ca n't deal with PDFs , it is bad software and ought to be replaced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is a school (and prof) in need of a clue.
No one should submit finished documents in an editable format.
Formatting problems, accidental changes, intentional changes - this is just asking for trouble.
If the school's anti-plagiarism software can't deal with PDFs, it is bad software and ought to be replaced.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006046</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265134380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Firefox won out over IE not by "hey, we have a clone of IE" but by being -better- than IE.</p></div><p>It also helps that the government seems to be actively engaged in getting people to ditch IE.  In other parts of the world, the uptake of Firefox has been slow at best and has stalled in some cases.  Frowny face.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox won out over IE not by " hey , we have a clone of IE " but by being -better- than IE.It also helps that the government seems to be actively engaged in getting people to ditch IE .
In other parts of the world , the uptake of Firefox has been slow at best and has stalled in some cases .
Frowny face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox won out over IE not by "hey, we have a clone of IE" but by being -better- than IE.It also helps that the government seems to be actively engaged in getting people to ditch IE.
In other parts of the world, the uptake of Firefox has been slow at best and has stalled in some cases.
Frowny face.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005698</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005606</id>
	<title>I have introduced a lot of people to OO.org</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265131200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have used OO.org to write several books, and it is what I recommend to people.</p><p>That said, I prefer Latex<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have used OO.org to write several books , and it is what I recommend to people.That said , I prefer Latex : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have used OO.org to write several books, and it is what I recommend to people.That said, I prefer Latex :-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005574</id>
	<title>99\% of non-techie readers would say "open what?"</title>
	<author>mykos</author>
	<datestamp>1265131020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This survey is a pretty big pill to swallow.  I am pretty sure that nearly all the non-IT people I know would have no idea what Open Office was, and I'm sure there are many others who would feel the same here on Slashdot.</p><p>Of course, anecdotal evidence isn't a great benchmark, but come on...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This survey is a pretty big pill to swallow .
I am pretty sure that nearly all the non-IT people I know would have no idea what Open Office was , and I 'm sure there are many others who would feel the same here on Slashdot.Of course , anecdotal evidence is n't a great benchmark , but come on.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This survey is a pretty big pill to swallow.
I am pretty sure that nearly all the non-IT people I know would have no idea what Open Office was, and I'm sure there are many others who would feel the same here on Slashdot.Of course, anecdotal evidence isn't a great benchmark, but come on...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008044</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264939740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>43\% of all Germans forgot to uncheck the OpenOffice box on a Java update/install. 50\% of those were too lazy to uninstall it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>43 \ % of all Germans forgot to uncheck the OpenOffice box on a Java update/install .
50 \ % of those were too lazy to uninstall it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>43\% of all Germans forgot to uncheck the OpenOffice box on a Java update/install.
50\% of those were too lazy to uninstall it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007876</id>
	<title>Re:If you consider...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264937700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OS/2 was bigger there than anywhere else as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OS/2 was bigger there than anywhere else as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OS/2 was bigger there than anywhere else as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008156</id>
	<title>Re:I have introduced a lot of people to OO.org</title>
	<author>Daengbo</author>
	<datestamp>1264941060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You set up page styles (introductory, right and left), set the "next page" in the style to "right" for the left page and "left" for the right page, set up a separate header for each, and set Header 1 to start a new chapter (with styles) and automatically use the right page.</p><p>Styles are your friend, little monkey.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You set up page styles ( introductory , right and left ) , set the " next page " in the style to " right " for the left page and " left " for the right page , set up a separate header for each , and set Header 1 to start a new chapter ( with styles ) and automatically use the right page.Styles are your friend , little monkey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You set up page styles (introductory, right and left), set the "next page" in the style to "right" for the left page and "left" for the right page, set up a separate header for each, and set Header 1 to start a new chapter (with styles) and automatically use the right page.Styles are your friend, little monkey.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006894</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>mvdwege</author>
	<datestamp>1264969800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <tt>"Hey, [OOo] is better than MS Office" but the problem is [this] statement isn't true.</tt> </p><p>In what way is it not better? Simply asserting that it isn't is not enough. How about some backup on that assertion?</p><p>Personally, I think it is horrible, but MS Office is worse. At least OOWriter encourages formatting through styles a lot more, and handles complex formatting in longer documents better, to give just an example.</p><p>
Mart</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hey , [ OOo ] is better than MS Office " but the problem is [ this ] statement is n't true .
In what way is it not better ?
Simply asserting that it is n't is not enough .
How about some backup on that assertion ? Personally , I think it is horrible , but MS Office is worse .
At least OOWriter encourages formatting through styles a lot more , and handles complex formatting in longer documents better , to give just an example .
Mart</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "Hey, [OOo] is better than MS Office" but the problem is [this] statement isn't true.
In what way is it not better?
Simply asserting that it isn't is not enough.
How about some backup on that assertion?Personally, I think it is horrible, but MS Office is worse.
At least OOWriter encourages formatting through styles a lot more, and handles complex formatting in longer documents better, to give just an example.
Mart
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006218</id>
	<title>Re:Getting through the university barrier in the U</title>
	<author>Master Moose</author>
	<datestamp>1265135880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use OO and never send anything other than PDFs which it handles quite well</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use OO and never send anything other than PDFs which it handles quite well</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use OO and never send anything other than PDFs which it handles quite well</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005746</id>
	<title>bloatware vs. bloatware</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265132220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Both suites were smaller and arguably better six years ago.  At a certain point, Fred Brooks ("The Mythical Man Month") gets called in to apply his laws.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Both suites were smaller and arguably better six years ago .
At a certain point , Fred Brooks ( " The Mythical Man Month " ) gets called in to apply his laws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both suites were smaller and arguably better six years ago.
At a certain point, Fred Brooks ("The Mythical Man Month") gets called in to apply his laws.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006448</id>
	<title>Re:methodology?</title>
	<author>Barny</author>
	<datestamp>1265138220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention the amount of times its installed but not used.</p><p>We pre-install OOo with all new PCs, however most people also buy MS Office as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention the amount of times its installed but not used.We pre-install OOo with all new PCs , however most people also buy MS Office as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention the amount of times its installed but not used.We pre-install OOo with all new PCs, however most people also buy MS Office as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31021110</id>
	<title>OOo .GT. MS Office in one big way</title>
	<author>justthinkit</author>
	<datestamp>1265291880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OOo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.GT. MS Office in at least one big way: installation size.  The latest OOo installer is less than half the size of MS O2K.  I have no interest in trying newer versions of MS Office but I imagine they are considerably bigger than O2K.
<br>
<br>
So, any feature comparisons have to take into account that OOo does it all with much less disk space (and yes disk space is an issue on my Eee with its 16GB SSD).</htmltext>
<tokenext>OOo .GT .
MS Office in at least one big way : installation size .
The latest OOo installer is less than half the size of MS O2K .
I have no interest in trying newer versions of MS Office but I imagine they are considerably bigger than O2K .
So , any feature comparisons have to take into account that OOo does it all with much less disk space ( and yes disk space is an issue on my Eee with its 16GB SSD ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OOo .GT.
MS Office in at least one big way: installation size.
The latest OOo installer is less than half the size of MS O2K.
I have no interest in trying newer versions of MS Office but I imagine they are considerably bigger than O2K.
So, any feature comparisons have to take into account that OOo does it all with much less disk space (and yes disk space is an issue on my Eee with its 16GB SSD).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005822</id>
	<title>Re:If you consider...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265132700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That&rsquo;s reeealy long ago. Also, most people do not know at all, that they are related.<br>Plus, I find OpenOffice to be a badly-designed sluggishly slow and crappy Office suite. Different than MS Office, but not better or worse.</p><p>The reason is, that they both are waaaayyy over their maximum lifespan. They should have had a complete rewrite about 5-10 years ago.<br>Until that is going to happen, they will become more and more the upside-down pyramid of software design, that killed pre-NT Windows with ME.</p><p>Or in short: It needs a revolution. (And I&rsquo;m on to one, actually.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That    s reeealy long ago .
Also , most people do not know at all , that they are related.Plus , I find OpenOffice to be a badly-designed sluggishly slow and crappy Office suite .
Different than MS Office , but not better or worse.The reason is , that they both are waaaayyy over their maximum lifespan .
They should have had a complete rewrite about 5-10 years ago.Until that is going to happen , they will become more and more the upside-down pyramid of software design , that killed pre-NT Windows with ME.Or in short : It needs a revolution .
( And I    m on to one , actually .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That’s reeealy long ago.
Also, most people do not know at all, that they are related.Plus, I find OpenOffice to be a badly-designed sluggishly slow and crappy Office suite.
Different than MS Office, but not better or worse.The reason is, that they both are waaaayyy over their maximum lifespan.
They should have had a complete rewrite about 5-10 years ago.Until that is going to happen, they will become more and more the upside-down pyramid of software design, that killed pre-NT Windows with ME.Or in short: It needs a revolution.
(And I’m on to one, actually.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008596</id>
	<title>Re:If you consider...</title>
	<author>Jurily</author>
	<datestamp>1264946340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm surprised the percentage isn't higher.</p></div><p>Excel.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm surprised the percentage is n't higher.Excel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm surprised the percentage isn't higher.Excel.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008474</id>
	<title>Re:Open Office getting worse?</title>
	<author>je ne sais quoi</author>
	<datestamp>1264945260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's strange, my experience has been the opposite, but I don't use draw.  I dominantly use calc and I think the 3.x versions are much more usable.  A lot of that has to do with the fact that charts are now anti-aliased and you don't cringe after making one any more.  The charting ability in general has been the one area of weakness for me as to why I needed Excel.  With the 3.x versions, that reason is pretty much gone because they're much easier now and the axis labels and scales don't freak out as often.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's strange , my experience has been the opposite , but I do n't use draw .
I dominantly use calc and I think the 3.x versions are much more usable .
A lot of that has to do with the fact that charts are now anti-aliased and you do n't cringe after making one any more .
The charting ability in general has been the one area of weakness for me as to why I needed Excel .
With the 3.x versions , that reason is pretty much gone because they 're much easier now and the axis labels and scales do n't freak out as often .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's strange, my experience has been the opposite, but I don't use draw.
I dominantly use calc and I think the 3.x versions are much more usable.
A lot of that has to do with the fact that charts are now anti-aliased and you don't cringe after making one any more.
The charting ability in general has been the one area of weakness for me as to why I needed Excel.
With the 3.x versions, that reason is pretty much gone because they're much easier now and the axis labels and scales don't freak out as often.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31013776</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1264970040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Right now, I am giving presentations with impress. Slides to the projector, and my presenter screen on the laptop has the slide, the next slide, presenters notes and a clock.</i></p><p>Yah. Powerpoint has that same feature, you realize that right?</p><p><i>openoffice.org integrates with LaTex.</i></p><p>Who gives a crap? I've been in the corporate world for 15 years now, and I've yet to ever receive a LaTex file from anybody about anything ever. I also do Javascript/PHP development on the side, and guess what? I've never seen a LaTex document there, either... hell, for all I know, LaTex might be a myth.</p><p><i>openoffice.org offers PDF/A-1a export. openoffice.org font selection shows the font in the pulldown. (maybe recent MS stuff does these things too -- but MS needed to catch up).</i></p><p>Office does these as well. The only reason PDF export doesn't ship with it is because Adobe threatened to sue Microsoft if it did. (Open standard my ass! It's only open as long as you're not big enough to compete with Adobe.)</p><p>Office also shows the font in the font menu... except for symbol fonts for obvious reasons. It has for a looong time (Office 97?) which gives me the idea you're mostly talking out your ass here. It also shows a live preview in your document itself of how it will look if you choose that font/size/style combination, updating in real-time as you browse the font menu.</p><p>In summary: you should probably actually *use* Office if you're going to criticize it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right now , I am giving presentations with impress .
Slides to the projector , and my presenter screen on the laptop has the slide , the next slide , presenters notes and a clock.Yah .
Powerpoint has that same feature , you realize that right ? openoffice.org integrates with LaTex.Who gives a crap ?
I 've been in the corporate world for 15 years now , and I 've yet to ever receive a LaTex file from anybody about anything ever .
I also do Javascript/PHP development on the side , and guess what ?
I 've never seen a LaTex document there , either... hell , for all I know , LaTex might be a myth.openoffice.org offers PDF/A-1a export .
openoffice.org font selection shows the font in the pulldown .
( maybe recent MS stuff does these things too -- but MS needed to catch up ) .Office does these as well .
The only reason PDF export does n't ship with it is because Adobe threatened to sue Microsoft if it did .
( Open standard my ass !
It 's only open as long as you 're not big enough to compete with Adobe .
) Office also shows the font in the font menu... except for symbol fonts for obvious reasons .
It has for a looong time ( Office 97 ?
) which gives me the idea you 're mostly talking out your ass here .
It also shows a live preview in your document itself of how it will look if you choose that font/size/style combination , updating in real-time as you browse the font menu.In summary : you should probably actually * use * Office if you 're going to criticize it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right now, I am giving presentations with impress.
Slides to the projector, and my presenter screen on the laptop has the slide, the next slide, presenters notes and a clock.Yah.
Powerpoint has that same feature, you realize that right?openoffice.org integrates with LaTex.Who gives a crap?
I've been in the corporate world for 15 years now, and I've yet to ever receive a LaTex file from anybody about anything ever.
I also do Javascript/PHP development on the side, and guess what?
I've never seen a LaTex document there, either... hell, for all I know, LaTex might be a myth.openoffice.org offers PDF/A-1a export.
openoffice.org font selection shows the font in the pulldown.
(maybe recent MS stuff does these things too -- but MS needed to catch up).Office does these as well.
The only reason PDF export doesn't ship with it is because Adobe threatened to sue Microsoft if it did.
(Open standard my ass!
It's only open as long as you're not big enough to compete with Adobe.
)Office also shows the font in the font menu... except for symbol fonts for obvious reasons.
It has for a looong time (Office 97?
) which gives me the idea you're mostly talking out your ass here.
It also shows a live preview in your document itself of how it will look if you choose that font/size/style combination, updating in real-time as you browse the font menu.In summary: you should probably actually *use* Office if you're going to criticize it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008204</id>
	<title>Re:Newsflash: Linux users install fonts, too!</title>
	<author>DrXym</author>
	<datestamp>1264941600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not an issue if they're using the web browser's user agent and response of fonts to determine suite usage. It's very easy to weed out Linux users because it says they're Linux right there in the user agent string. The number of people anonymizing or pretending to be Windows for one reason or another is probably small enough to be covered by a reasonable margin of error.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not an issue if they 're using the web browser 's user agent and response of fonts to determine suite usage .
It 's very easy to weed out Linux users because it says they 're Linux right there in the user agent string .
The number of people anonymizing or pretending to be Windows for one reason or another is probably small enough to be covered by a reasonable margin of error .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not an issue if they're using the web browser's user agent and response of fonts to determine suite usage.
It's very easy to weed out Linux users because it says they're Linux right there in the user agent string.
The number of people anonymizing or pretending to be Windows for one reason or another is probably small enough to be covered by a reasonable margin of error.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31010904</id>
	<title>Re:If you consider...</title>
	<author>rduke15</author>
	<datestamp>1264958040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I find OpenOffice to be a badly-designed sluggishly slow and crappy Office suite.</p></div><p>Glad to see someone I can agree with. At least in part:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Different than MS Office, but not better or worse.</p></div><p>I find it not different enough. The reason I was interested in the first place was because I hated MS Word. I was extremely disappointed when I realized that OOo was a sort of would-be clone of it. It was not really different, but still managed to be worse.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Or in short: It needs a revolution. (And I'm on to one, actually.)</p></div><p>Well, I sure hope your revolution will touch on word processing and wish you good luck.</p><p>FWIW, I now use TextMaker in Linux after having used it for a few years in Windows (after I had to stop using Ami Pro). It's not free, but it's much better than MS Word or OO Write. (I still don't know what to recommend to Mac users...)</p><p>Anyway, I'm still looking for a really great word processor, with excellent and intuitive support for styles and stylesheets, which can natively open and save<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc and odf files, and can cleverly and cleanly edit html with css while still being a word processor and not Dreamweaver.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find OpenOffice to be a badly-designed sluggishly slow and crappy Office suite.Glad to see someone I can agree with .
At least in part : Different than MS Office , but not better or worse.I find it not different enough .
The reason I was interested in the first place was because I hated MS Word .
I was extremely disappointed when I realized that OOo was a sort of would-be clone of it .
It was not really different , but still managed to be worse.Or in short : It needs a revolution .
( And I 'm on to one , actually .
) Well , I sure hope your revolution will touch on word processing and wish you good luck.FWIW , I now use TextMaker in Linux after having used it for a few years in Windows ( after I had to stop using Ami Pro ) .
It 's not free , but it 's much better than MS Word or OO Write .
( I still do n't know what to recommend to Mac users... ) Anyway , I 'm still looking for a really great word processor , with excellent and intuitive support for styles and stylesheets , which can natively open and save .doc and odf files , and can cleverly and cleanly edit html with css while still being a word processor and not Dreamweaver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find OpenOffice to be a badly-designed sluggishly slow and crappy Office suite.Glad to see someone I can agree with.
At least in part:Different than MS Office, but not better or worse.I find it not different enough.
The reason I was interested in the first place was because I hated MS Word.
I was extremely disappointed when I realized that OOo was a sort of would-be clone of it.
It was not really different, but still managed to be worse.Or in short: It needs a revolution.
(And I'm on to one, actually.
)Well, I sure hope your revolution will touch on word processing and wish you good luck.FWIW, I now use TextMaker in Linux after having used it for a few years in Windows (after I had to stop using Ami Pro).
It's not free, but it's much better than MS Word or OO Write.
(I still don't know what to recommend to Mac users...)Anyway, I'm still looking for a really great word processor, with excellent and intuitive support for styles and stylesheets, which can natively open and save .doc and odf files, and can cleverly and cleanly edit html with css while still being a word processor and not Dreamweaver.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005522</id>
	<title>methodology?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265130540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What surprised me the most is that they found hardly any difference in the numbers for home and business users."</p></div><p>That's probably because of a flaw in the methodology. Also, this study isn't a representative sample -- a lot of businesses don't allow internet access. Perhaps they are more likely to use one office package over another. This study is interesting, but hardly robust.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What surprised me the most is that they found hardly any difference in the numbers for home and business users .
" That 's probably because of a flaw in the methodology .
Also , this study is n't a representative sample -- a lot of businesses do n't allow internet access .
Perhaps they are more likely to use one office package over another .
This study is interesting , but hardly robust .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What surprised me the most is that they found hardly any difference in the numbers for home and business users.
"That's probably because of a flaw in the methodology.
Also, this study isn't a representative sample -- a lot of businesses don't allow internet access.
Perhaps they are more likely to use one office package over another.
This study is interesting, but hardly robust.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007168</id>
	<title>Re:methodology?</title>
	<author>moronoxyd</author>
	<datestamp>1264929300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being German and doing IT support for two of the biggest german companies, I beg to differ.<br>Yes, almost any company does have internet access. But only a fraction of its employees can use the internet unrestricted. Many can only access certain sites or none at all.</p><p>But then again: Even on the machines of the employees that have internet access, many of the security features of IE *shudder* are activated, so that those machines probably don't participate in the study.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being German and doing IT support for two of the biggest german companies , I beg to differ.Yes , almost any company does have internet access .
But only a fraction of its employees can use the internet unrestricted .
Many can only access certain sites or none at all.But then again : Even on the machines of the employees that have internet access , many of the security features of IE * shudder * are activated , so that those machines probably do n't participate in the study .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being German and doing IT support for two of the biggest german companies, I beg to differ.Yes, almost any company does have internet access.
But only a fraction of its employees can use the internet unrestricted.
Many can only access certain sites or none at all.But then again: Even on the machines of the employees that have internet access, many of the security features of IE *shudder* are activated, so that those machines probably don't participate in the study.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008880</id>
	<title>Re:If you consider...</title>
	<author>sqldr</author>
	<datestamp>1264948620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm surprised it's not 3 months ago and lower.  Nice round number there!  Next week we'll have one saying "OpenOffice tops 22.135\% in Germany".  Couldn't they have done this when they hit 20?</p><p>bah.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm surprised it 's not 3 months ago and lower .
Nice round number there !
Next week we 'll have one saying " OpenOffice tops 22.135 \ % in Germany " .
Could n't they have done this when they hit 20 ? bah .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm surprised it's not 3 months ago and lower.
Nice round number there!
Next week we'll have one saying "OpenOffice tops 22.135\% in Germany".
Couldn't they have done this when they hit 20?bah.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31010690</id>
	<title>Ms Office is NOT a substitute for OpenOffice yet</title>
	<author>fishexe</author>
	<datestamp>1264957260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>At least not in all cases.
I have a family member (not a computer guru but someone with a fair bit of computer knowledge) who tried OpenOffice and found that it was unusable due to documented being formatted differently in OO.o writer and in Word (and formatted differently in ways that matter). Said family member ended up buying Office 2007 in order to get documents that looked the same as they did on the other machines.</p></div><p>I have a family member (not a computer guru but someone with a fair bit of computer knowledge) who tried MS Office and found it was unusable due to MS Office just generally sucking, and being totally unable to open<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.odt files!  Needless to say, until MS adds better compatibility it's a waste of money.  Said family member ended up downloading OO.o in order to get a decent office suite that did what she wanted, when she told it to.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least not in all cases .
I have a family member ( not a computer guru but someone with a fair bit of computer knowledge ) who tried OpenOffice and found that it was unusable due to documented being formatted differently in OO.o writer and in Word ( and formatted differently in ways that matter ) .
Said family member ended up buying Office 2007 in order to get documents that looked the same as they did on the other machines.I have a family member ( not a computer guru but someone with a fair bit of computer knowledge ) who tried MS Office and found it was unusable due to MS Office just generally sucking , and being totally unable to open .odt files !
Needless to say , until MS adds better compatibility it 's a waste of money .
Said family member ended up downloading OO.o in order to get a decent office suite that did what she wanted , when she told it to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least not in all cases.
I have a family member (not a computer guru but someone with a fair bit of computer knowledge) who tried OpenOffice and found that it was unusable due to documented being formatted differently in OO.o writer and in Word (and formatted differently in ways that matter).
Said family member ended up buying Office 2007 in order to get documents that looked the same as they did on the other machines.I have a family member (not a computer guru but someone with a fair bit of computer knowledge) who tried MS Office and found it was unusable due to MS Office just generally sucking, and being totally unable to open .odt files!
Needless to say, until MS adds better compatibility it's a waste of money.
Said family member ended up downloading OO.o in order to get a decent office suite that did what she wanted, when she told it to.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008648</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Slash.Poop</author>
	<datestamp>1264947000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Germans STILL love David Hasselhoff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Germans STILL love David Hasselhoff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Germans STILL love David Hasselhoff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008150</id>
	<title>Which .doc format?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264941000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc format? Works 95? Office 97? Works 2001? Office 2k3? WfW1.0? MS Word 2.0?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which .doc format ?
Works 95 ?
Office 97 ?
Works 2001 ?
Office 2k3 ?
WfW1.0 ? MS Word 2.0 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which .doc format?
Works 95?
Office 97?
Works 2001?
Office 2k3?
WfW1.0? MS Word 2.0?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006038</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005978</id>
	<title>Re:Getting through the university barrier in the U</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265133840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not submit them as PDFs? They can open it in any platform and it will appear as I intended. Besides it would make you look cool.<br> <br>
Its working fine for me at my university.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not submit them as PDFs ?
They can open it in any platform and it will appear as I intended .
Besides it would make you look cool .
Its working fine for me at my university .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not submit them as PDFs?
They can open it in any platform and it will appear as I intended.
Besides it would make you look cool.
Its working fine for me at my university.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005892</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007214</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>DerPflanz</author>
	<datestamp>1264929720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The problem I see with OOo is that it is marketed and used as "hey, there is a free (as in beer) MS Office clone!" rather than "Hey, this is better than MS Office" but the problem is the second statement isn't true. Firefox won out over IE not by "hey, we have a clone of IE" but by being -better- than IE.</p></div><p>According to a january 2010 article [linuxjournal.com] in LinuxJournal, OpenOffice is better on the word processing application, tied on the spreadsheet and worse on the presentation app. All in all, when comparing the two, the difference get smaller and smaller, and the overall conclusion now, is that there is a tie.</p><p>For the record, we use OOo internally in our company (~20 employees).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem I see with OOo is that it is marketed and used as " hey , there is a free ( as in beer ) MS Office clone !
" rather than " Hey , this is better than MS Office " but the problem is the second statement is n't true .
Firefox won out over IE not by " hey , we have a clone of IE " but by being -better- than IE.According to a january 2010 article [ linuxjournal.com ] in LinuxJournal , OpenOffice is better on the word processing application , tied on the spreadsheet and worse on the presentation app .
All in all , when comparing the two , the difference get smaller and smaller , and the overall conclusion now , is that there is a tie.For the record , we use OOo internally in our company ( ~ 20 employees ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem I see with OOo is that it is marketed and used as "hey, there is a free (as in beer) MS Office clone!
" rather than "Hey, this is better than MS Office" but the problem is the second statement isn't true.
Firefox won out over IE not by "hey, we have a clone of IE" but by being -better- than IE.According to a january 2010 article [linuxjournal.com] in LinuxJournal, OpenOffice is better on the word processing application, tied on the spreadsheet and worse on the presentation app.
All in all, when comparing the two, the difference get smaller and smaller, and the overall conclusion now, is that there is a tie.For the record, we use OOo internally in our company (~20 employees).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005698</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31014418</id>
	<title>Re:Open Office getting worse?</title>
	<author>Maxo-Texas</author>
	<datestamp>1264930320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No problems with Draw on Win7 desktop, WIn Vista Laptop, and WIn XP laptop.  Have some fairly complex drawings.</p><p>Had problems with running out of memory in Writer that would produce crashes without any reason why.  Solution was to close other applications when I was working with 3mb documents with a couple hundred pictures.</p><p>Might check your free memory.  Possible new features may have taken you closer to the edge.  Could be a bug they need to look into.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No problems with Draw on Win7 desktop , WIn Vista Laptop , and WIn XP laptop .
Have some fairly complex drawings.Had problems with running out of memory in Writer that would produce crashes without any reason why .
Solution was to close other applications when I was working with 3mb documents with a couple hundred pictures.Might check your free memory .
Possible new features may have taken you closer to the edge .
Could be a bug they need to look into .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No problems with Draw on Win7 desktop, WIn Vista Laptop, and WIn XP laptop.
Have some fairly complex drawings.Had problems with running out of memory in Writer that would produce crashes without any reason why.
Solution was to close other applications when I was working with 3mb documents with a couple hundred pictures.Might check your free memory.
Possible new features may have taken you closer to the edge.
Could be a bug they need to look into.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006306</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006800</id>
	<title>FiLrst 4ost?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264969020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>had become like to be aboPut doing clearly become then Jordan Hubbard</htmltext>
<tokenext>had become like to be aboPut doing clearly become then Jordan Hubbard</tokentext>
<sentencetext>had become like to be aboPut doing clearly become then Jordan Hubbard</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005666</id>
	<title>Panopticlick?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265131440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This same data could be mined from what is collected by EFF's Panopticlick.  Would be interesting at the very least...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This same data could be mined from what is collected by EFF 's Panopticlick .
Would be interesting at the very least.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This same data could be mined from what is collected by EFF's Panopticlick.
Would be interesting at the very least...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006306</id>
	<title>Open Office getting worse?</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1265136900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Open Office may have peaked in quality.  Open Office Draw 3.1 crashes for me about twice an hour, while older versions never did. Draw also has some weird intermittent bug in selection, were suddenly everything goes grey for a few seconds.  The last 2.x versions were solid.
</p><p>
I'm always amused that the crash reporter program wants the user to type in which OpenOffice program they were using.  The crash reporter ought to know that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Open Office may have peaked in quality .
Open Office Draw 3.1 crashes for me about twice an hour , while older versions never did .
Draw also has some weird intermittent bug in selection , were suddenly everything goes grey for a few seconds .
The last 2.x versions were solid .
I 'm always amused that the crash reporter program wants the user to type in which OpenOffice program they were using .
The crash reporter ought to know that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Open Office may have peaked in quality.
Open Office Draw 3.1 crashes for me about twice an hour, while older versions never did.
Draw also has some weird intermittent bug in selection, were suddenly everything goes grey for a few seconds.
The last 2.x versions were solid.
I'm always amused that the crash reporter program wants the user to type in which OpenOffice program they were using.
The crash reporter ought to know that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006446</id>
	<title>Re:If you consider...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265138220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>... that StarOffice was a wildly popular office suite in Germany in the 90s.</p></div><p>David Hasselhoff is popular in Germany too.  I'm not sure that proves anything.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... that StarOffice was a wildly popular office suite in Germany in the 90s.David Hasselhoff is popular in Germany too .
I 'm not sure that proves anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... that StarOffice was a wildly popular office suite in Germany in the 90s.David Hasselhoff is popular in Germany too.
I'm not sure that proves anything.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005570</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007864</id>
	<title>Re:I have introduced a lot of people to OO.org</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264937580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would you use OO for a book when you know LaTeX?  A lot of authors would use the text editor anyway, and you already are using LaTeX!</p><p>Or forget computers and use a typewriter or pen/paper<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you use OO for a book when you know LaTeX ?
A lot of authors would use the text editor anyway , and you already are using LaTeX ! Or forget computers and use a typewriter or pen/paper : D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would you use OO for a book when you know LaTeX?
A lot of authors would use the text editor anyway, and you already are using LaTeX!Or forget computers and use a typewriter or pen/paper :D</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007072</id>
	<title>Re:methodology?</title>
	<author>Lissajous</author>
	<datestamp>1264928400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gee - I guess you don't go into a bank that often.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gee - I guess you do n't go into a bank that often .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gee - I guess you don't go into a bank that often.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006158</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31011490</id>
	<title>Re:Resumes and MS Word</title>
	<author>psm321</author>
	<datestamp>1264960140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They want it in Word format so they can mess with it.  I've seen tons of horror stories of an applicant going into an interview only to see that the copy of their resume the interviewer has lists all sorts of skills and qualifications that were not on their real resume.  So don't give it to the recruitment agencies in a format that allows them to easily do that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They want it in Word format so they can mess with it .
I 've seen tons of horror stories of an applicant going into an interview only to see that the copy of their resume the interviewer has lists all sorts of skills and qualifications that were not on their real resume .
So do n't give it to the recruitment agencies in a format that allows them to easily do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They want it in Word format so they can mess with it.
I've seen tons of horror stories of an applicant going into an interview only to see that the copy of their resume the interviewer has lists all sorts of skills and qualifications that were not on their real resume.
So don't give it to the recruitment agencies in a format that allows them to easily do that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007418</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005600</id>
	<title>Forget openoffice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265131200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use neooffice on my mac!!!!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use neooffice on my mac ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use neooffice on my mac!!!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005622</id>
	<title>Newsflash: Linux users install fonts, too!</title>
	<author>Alan426</author>
	<datestamp>1265131260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about everyone who installs <a href="http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/" title="sourceforge.net" rel="nofollow">msttcorefonts</a> [sourceforge.net] for compatibility?  Not to mention <a href="http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/04/02/linux-font-equivalents-to-popular-web-typefaces/" title="mondaybynoon.com" rel="nofollow">all the other random fonts</a> [mondaybynoon.com] you have to accumulate to open documents?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about everyone who installs msttcorefonts [ sourceforge.net ] for compatibility ?
Not to mention all the other random fonts [ mondaybynoon.com ] you have to accumulate to open documents ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about everyone who installs msttcorefonts [sourceforge.net] for compatibility?
Not to mention all the other random fonts [mondaybynoon.com] you have to accumulate to open documents?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005790</id>
	<title>If you think THAT'S something..</title>
	<author>Reed Solomon</author>
	<datestamp>1265132460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... Just wait until the David Hasselhoff special edition is released.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... Just wait until the David Hasselhoff special edition is released .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... Just wait until the David Hasselhoff special edition is released.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31009956</id>
	<title>Re:Newsflash: Linux users install fonts, too!</title>
	<author>jonbryce</author>
	<datestamp>1264954080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are probably looking for the likes of Book Antiqua.  That comes with MS Office, but not Internet Explorer or MSTTCoreFonts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are probably looking for the likes of Book Antiqua .
That comes with MS Office , but not Internet Explorer or MSTTCoreFonts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are probably looking for the likes of Book Antiqua.
That comes with MS Office, but not Internet Explorer or MSTTCoreFonts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005622</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006548</id>
	<title>Re:I have introduced a lot of people to OO.org</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265139360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since you have some experience could you then answer me this. How do I set it up so that I can add chapters with the chapter title in the top right like a normal book? I can set it up so that the header has a title in the top right however it would be the same for every page in the whole document.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since you have some experience could you then answer me this .
How do I set it up so that I can add chapters with the chapter title in the top right like a normal book ?
I can set it up so that the header has a title in the top right however it would be the same for every page in the whole document .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since you have some experience could you then answer me this.
How do I set it up so that I can add chapters with the chapter title in the top right like a normal book?
I can set it up so that the header has a title in the top right however it would be the same for every page in the whole document.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005606</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006494</id>
	<title>My Anecdotals</title>
	<author>BlindBear</author>
	<datestamp>1265138760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>FWIW, my anecdotal, non-flaming stats on my OOo experiences of myself,my three adult kids and two grandmothers converted from Windzzz/M$office to OOo over the last few years... Six happy users of OOo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Five happy Linux users (one kid just won't let go)... Eleven missing licences at Redmond!... Priceless!... I can hear the chairs crashing now.
All of us only do the odd letter and I run a spaghetti spreadsheet to track some finances.I figure we have collectively saved somewhere between A$2000-A$4000 over the past five years. YMMV.</htmltext>
<tokenext>FWIW , my anecdotal , non-flaming stats on my OOo experiences of myself,my three adult kids and two grandmothers converted from Windzzz/M $ office to OOo over the last few years... Six happy users of OOo ... Five happy Linux users ( one kid just wo n't let go ) ... Eleven missing licences at Redmond ! .. .
Priceless ! ... I can hear the chairs crashing now .
All of us only do the odd letter and I run a spaghetti spreadsheet to track some finances.I figure we have collectively saved somewhere between A $ 2000-A $ 4000 over the past five years .
YMMV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FWIW, my anecdotal, non-flaming stats on my OOo experiences of myself,my three adult kids and two grandmothers converted from Windzzz/M$office to OOo over the last few years... Six happy users of OOo ... Five happy Linux users (one kid just won't let go)... Eleven missing licences at Redmond!...
Priceless!... I can hear the chairs crashing now.
All of us only do the odd letter and I run a spaghetti spreadsheet to track some finances.I figure we have collectively saved somewhere between A$2000-A$4000 over the past five years.
YMMV.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005698</id>
	<title>Problem is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265131740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The problem I see with OOo is that it is marketed and used as "hey, there is a free (as in beer) MS Office clone!" rather than "Hey, this is better than MS Office" but the problem is the second statement isn't true. Firefox won out over IE not by "hey, we have a clone of IE" but by being -better- than IE.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem I see with OOo is that it is marketed and used as " hey , there is a free ( as in beer ) MS Office clone !
" rather than " Hey , this is better than MS Office " but the problem is the second statement is n't true .
Firefox won out over IE not by " hey , we have a clone of IE " but by being -better- than IE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem I see with OOo is that it is marketed and used as "hey, there is a free (as in beer) MS Office clone!
" rather than "Hey, this is better than MS Office" but the problem is the second statement isn't true.
Firefox won out over IE not by "hey, we have a clone of IE" but by being -better- than IE.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007522</id>
	<title>Red Hat Freedom Fonts</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1264933140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not anymore - the Freedom Fonts are good enough.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not anymore - the Freedom Fonts are good enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not anymore - the Freedom Fonts are good enough.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005622</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005570</id>
	<title>If you consider...</title>
	<author>brennanw</author>
	<datestamp>1265131020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... that StarOffice was a wildly popular office suite in Germany in the 90s (before Sun bought the code), I'm surprised the percentage isn't higher.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... that StarOffice was a wildly popular office suite in Germany in the 90s ( before Sun bought the code ) , I 'm surprised the percentage is n't higher .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... that StarOffice was a wildly popular office suite in Germany in the 90s (before Sun bought the code), I'm surprised the percentage isn't higher.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007264</id>
	<title>Re:Information leakage</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264930320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I love that my web browser can broadcast which office suite I am using.</p></div><p>In other news, researchers did a study of condom brands preferred by Internet users via browser tracking... ~</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love that my web browser can broadcast which office suite I am using.In other news , researchers did a study of condom brands preferred by Internet users via browser tracking... ~</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love that my web browser can broadcast which office suite I am using.In other news, researchers did a study of condom brands preferred by Internet users via browser tracking... ~
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31010556</id>
	<title>Re:All about the fonts, baby</title>
	<author>fishexe</author>
	<datestamp>1264956780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That's right.  As long as Microsoft controls Zapf Wingdings, OpenOffice will <i>never</i> take off.</p></div><p>Yeah, those dingbats just aren't the same.  And trying to use Comic Sans to replace Comic Sans MS?  Crazy!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's right .
As long as Microsoft controls Zapf Wingdings , OpenOffice will never take off.Yeah , those dingbats just are n't the same .
And trying to use Comic Sans to replace Comic Sans MS ?
Crazy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's right.
As long as Microsoft controls Zapf Wingdings, OpenOffice will never take off.Yeah, those dingbats just aren't the same.
And trying to use Comic Sans to replace Comic Sans MS?
Crazy!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006604</id>
	<title>Re:Getting through the university barrier in the U</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1265139960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You didn't consider a PDF? Seems like the standard way to go, if<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc wasn't working...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You did n't consider a PDF ?
Seems like the standard way to go , if .doc was n't working.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You didn't consider a PDF?
Seems like the standard way to go, if .doc wasn't working...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005964</id>
	<title>Re:Getting through the university barrier in the U</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265133780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PDF?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PDF ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PDF?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005900</id>
	<title>Germany again</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265133300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the nerd country.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the nerd country .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the nerd country.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006386</id>
	<title>Re:Whoopee doo</title>
	<author>JoshDD</author>
	<datestamp>1265137620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You obviously care enough to comment. And you are probably in denial or to cheap to admit you would rather use MS Office.<br> <br>
Me I use OO because I'm cheap and I use OO mainly for contracts/quote to email customers and PDF is a much more professional way to send such a document.</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You obviously care enough to comment .
And you are probably in denial or to cheap to admit you would rather use MS Office .
Me I use OO because I 'm cheap and I use OO mainly for contracts/quote to email customers and PDF is a much more professional way to send such a document .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You obviously care enough to comment.
And you are probably in denial or to cheap to admit you would rather use MS Office.
Me I use OO because I'm cheap and I use OO mainly for contracts/quote to email customers and PDF is a much more professional way to send such a document.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006620</id>
	<title>Re:Getting through the university barrier in the U</title>
	<author>LingNoi</author>
	<datestamp>1265140080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same thing happened to my girlfriend however she was actually using MS word. Turns out her lecturer didn't like using the computer and wanted a paper copy instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same thing happened to my girlfriend however she was actually using MS word .
Turns out her lecturer did n't like using the computer and wanted a paper copy instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same thing happened to my girlfriend however she was actually using MS word.
Turns out her lecturer didn't like using the computer and wanted a paper copy instead.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006106</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265134920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But... openoffice.org <b>is</b> better than ms office. And, it's not an ms office clone.</p><p>Right now, I am giving presentations with impress. Slides to the projector, and my presenter screen on the laptop has the slide, the next slide, presenters notes and a clock.</p><p>openoffice.org actually <b>runs</b> on the platforms I use (Solaris and Linux).</p><p>openoffice.org integrates with LaTex.</p><p>openoffice.org offers PDF/A-1a export. openoffice.org font selection shows the font in the pulldown. (maybe recent MS stuff does these things too -- but MS needed to catch up).</p><p>Since openoffice.org runs on Solaris and Linux, and MS Office doesn't, it's absolutely a no-brainer. openoffice.org is better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But... openoffice.org is better than ms office .
And , it 's not an ms office clone.Right now , I am giving presentations with impress .
Slides to the projector , and my presenter screen on the laptop has the slide , the next slide , presenters notes and a clock.openoffice.org actually runs on the platforms I use ( Solaris and Linux ) .openoffice.org integrates with LaTex.openoffice.org offers PDF/A-1a export .
openoffice.org font selection shows the font in the pulldown .
( maybe recent MS stuff does these things too -- but MS needed to catch up ) .Since openoffice.org runs on Solaris and Linux , and MS Office does n't , it 's absolutely a no-brainer .
openoffice.org is better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But... openoffice.org is better than ms office.
And, it's not an ms office clone.Right now, I am giving presentations with impress.
Slides to the projector, and my presenter screen on the laptop has the slide, the next slide, presenters notes and a clock.openoffice.org actually runs on the platforms I use (Solaris and Linux).openoffice.org integrates with LaTex.openoffice.org offers PDF/A-1a export.
openoffice.org font selection shows the font in the pulldown.
(maybe recent MS stuff does these things too -- but MS needed to catch up).Since openoffice.org runs on Solaris and Linux, and MS Office doesn't, it's absolutely a no-brainer.
openoffice.org is better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006748</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1264968480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being "better" doesn't really matter in most cases.<br>MSOffice itself was never better than wordperfect, it was just cheaper and better marketed and look what happened there. OO is already cheaper, but it isn't well marketed right now. Start pushing it heavily and businesses will switch if only to save money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being " better " does n't really matter in most cases.MSOffice itself was never better than wordperfect , it was just cheaper and better marketed and look what happened there .
OO is already cheaper , but it is n't well marketed right now .
Start pushing it heavily and businesses will switch if only to save money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being "better" doesn't really matter in most cases.MSOffice itself was never better than wordperfect, it was just cheaper and better marketed and look what happened there.
OO is already cheaper, but it isn't well marketed right now.
Start pushing it heavily and businesses will switch if only to save money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31009842</id>
	<title>Re:If you consider...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264953660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And it is still developed in Hamburg by Oracle. OpenOffice rocks!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And it is still developed in Hamburg by Oracle .
OpenOffice rocks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it is still developed in Hamburg by Oracle.
OpenOffice rocks!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005556</id>
	<title>Gee...maybe</title>
	<author>djupedal</author>
	<datestamp>1265130900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; <i>"...What surprised me the most is that they found hardly any difference in the numbers for home and business users."</i>
<br>
<br>
Wow...you are one easy-t-please individual - would you also be surprised if you found out they are one and the same...?
<br>
<br>
I wouldn't....and you wouldn't either if you were one of them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; " ...What surprised me the most is that they found hardly any difference in the numbers for home and business users .
" Wow...you are one easy-t-please individual - would you also be surprised if you found out they are one and the same... ?
I would n't....and you would n't either if you were one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; "...What surprised me the most is that they found hardly any difference in the numbers for home and business users.
"


Wow...you are one easy-t-please individual - would you also be surprised if you found out they are one and the same...?
I wouldn't....and you wouldn't either if you were one of them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007978</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>PybusJ</author>
	<datestamp>1264938840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Firefox won out over IE not by "hey, we have a clone of IE" but by being -better- than IE.</p></div><p>IE was relatively easy to better.  It was a free product which Microsoft had lost motivation to maintain or improve once they had captured the market.  It may have been important to the web, but until Mozilla re-awakened competition it wasn't important to MS.</p><p>On the other hand Office is one of Microsoft's cash cows and gets an enormous amount of development resource.  It will be very hard to beat MS on quality while competing on features and attempting to maintain compatibility with MS document formats.  The best approach may be not to try, to build light more focused products which compete with part of Office's capability and do it well.  E.g. there is room for a free application which does what keynote does on the Mac.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox won out over IE not by " hey , we have a clone of IE " but by being -better- than IE.IE was relatively easy to better .
It was a free product which Microsoft had lost motivation to maintain or improve once they had captured the market .
It may have been important to the web , but until Mozilla re-awakened competition it was n't important to MS.On the other hand Office is one of Microsoft 's cash cows and gets an enormous amount of development resource .
It will be very hard to beat MS on quality while competing on features and attempting to maintain compatibility with MS document formats .
The best approach may be not to try , to build light more focused products which compete with part of Office 's capability and do it well .
E.g. there is room for a free application which does what keynote does on the Mac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox won out over IE not by "hey, we have a clone of IE" but by being -better- than IE.IE was relatively easy to better.
It was a free product which Microsoft had lost motivation to maintain or improve once they had captured the market.
It may have been important to the web, but until Mozilla re-awakened competition it wasn't important to MS.On the other hand Office is one of Microsoft's cash cows and gets an enormous amount of development resource.
It will be very hard to beat MS on quality while competing on features and attempting to maintain compatibility with MS document formats.
The best approach may be not to try, to build light more focused products which compete with part of Office's capability and do it well.
E.g. there is room for a free application which does what keynote does on the Mac.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007178</id>
	<title>OpenOffice is NOT a substitute for MS Office yet</title>
	<author>jonwil</author>
	<datestamp>1264929360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least not in all cases.<br>I have a family member (not a computer guru but someone with a fair bit of computer knowledge) who tried OpenOffice and found that it was unusable due to documented being formatted differently in OO.o writer and in Word (and formatted differently in ways that matter). Said family member ended up buying Office 2007 in order to get documents that looked the same as they did on the other machines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least not in all cases.I have a family member ( not a computer guru but someone with a fair bit of computer knowledge ) who tried OpenOffice and found that it was unusable due to documented being formatted differently in OO.o writer and in Word ( and formatted differently in ways that matter ) .
Said family member ended up buying Office 2007 in order to get documents that looked the same as they did on the other machines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least not in all cases.I have a family member (not a computer guru but someone with a fair bit of computer knowledge) who tried OpenOffice and found that it was unusable due to documented being formatted differently in OO.o writer and in Word (and formatted differently in ways that matter).
Said family member ended up buying Office 2007 in order to get documents that looked the same as they did on the other machines.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31005892</id>
	<title>Getting through the university barrier in the US</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265133180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was perfectly happy using OpenOffice for all my home needs, but then when I started up a master's program, I could digitally submit assignments (depending on the prof) for most of my courses.  The only problem was that even though I would save things in OpenOffice so that they would be readable on MS products, not a single one of my professors could get them to open, and weren't really interested in going through any additional steps aside from double-clicking to open them up.  So, because I needed to submit deliverables in a format that they could read, I was forced to purchase MS Office.  Ribbons bleh.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was perfectly happy using OpenOffice for all my home needs , but then when I started up a master 's program , I could digitally submit assignments ( depending on the prof ) for most of my courses .
The only problem was that even though I would save things in OpenOffice so that they would be readable on MS products , not a single one of my professors could get them to open , and were n't really interested in going through any additional steps aside from double-clicking to open them up .
So , because I needed to submit deliverables in a format that they could read , I was forced to purchase MS Office .
Ribbons bleh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was perfectly happy using OpenOffice for all my home needs, but then when I started up a master's program, I could digitally submit assignments (depending on the prof) for most of my courses.
The only problem was that even though I would save things in OpenOffice so that they would be readable on MS products, not a single one of my professors could get them to open, and weren't really interested in going through any additional steps aside from double-clicking to open them up.
So, because I needed to submit deliverables in a format that they could read, I was forced to purchase MS Office.
Ribbons bleh.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31006030</id>
	<title>Whoopee doo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265134260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't be the only person who doesn't really, truly care about the market share of a particular product. Really, I don't. 20\% of people use the same thing I do? Whoopee doo, what do you want, a paper hat?</p><p>It doesn't matter. Let go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't be the only person who does n't really , truly care about the market share of a particular product .
Really , I do n't .
20 \ % of people use the same thing I do ?
Whoopee doo , what do you want , a paper hat ? It does n't matter .
Let go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't be the only person who doesn't really, truly care about the market share of a particular product.
Really, I don't.
20\% of people use the same thing I do?
Whoopee doo, what do you want, a paper hat?It doesn't matter.
Let go.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31008634</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>theguyfromsaturn</author>
	<datestamp>1264946820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The second statement is true.  MS Office is barely usable.  If you need to write a document more sophisticated than a letter to mom, then forget about word.  The spreadsheet is terrible and doesn't use styles, has terribly limiting charts, (though in truth spreadsheets are not meant for plotting).  Have you ever tried printing graphs in excel on which you might have superimposed guiding lines or comments?  Right.  It does not look at all like what you drew in.  Everything has changed position.  OpenOffice is what you see is what you get.</p><p>Again, with the slides, you have the possibility to use styles in OpenOffice.  The graphics support is much better across all applications.  And it's easy to use styles in the word-processor.  Oh yeah, and try setting up your own variables in Word (without having to resort to VBA).  Right.  You can insert a field with a variable, but it does not let you natively define a new variable and assign it a value.  And last time I checked it didn't let me do simple calculations in a table (PO forms are easier to generate in a text document).  Also, the mailmerge in Word is almost impossible to use, and certainly not as versatile as OpenOffice's, it does not have Master Documents (awesome when writing a thesis, book, etc), and the labels/business cards feature is simply laughable (no option for syncing the whole page, which I thought would be a no-brainer).</p><p>In essence, Word, and MS Office if for little children just starting to learn to use office software on a computer.  Real users will prefer OpenOffice any day of the week (and won't have to suffer the Ribbon either).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The second statement is true .
MS Office is barely usable .
If you need to write a document more sophisticated than a letter to mom , then forget about word .
The spreadsheet is terrible and does n't use styles , has terribly limiting charts , ( though in truth spreadsheets are not meant for plotting ) .
Have you ever tried printing graphs in excel on which you might have superimposed guiding lines or comments ?
Right. It does not look at all like what you drew in .
Everything has changed position .
OpenOffice is what you see is what you get.Again , with the slides , you have the possibility to use styles in OpenOffice .
The graphics support is much better across all applications .
And it 's easy to use styles in the word-processor .
Oh yeah , and try setting up your own variables in Word ( without having to resort to VBA ) .
Right. You can insert a field with a variable , but it does not let you natively define a new variable and assign it a value .
And last time I checked it did n't let me do simple calculations in a table ( PO forms are easier to generate in a text document ) .
Also , the mailmerge in Word is almost impossible to use , and certainly not as versatile as OpenOffice 's , it does not have Master Documents ( awesome when writing a thesis , book , etc ) , and the labels/business cards feature is simply laughable ( no option for syncing the whole page , which I thought would be a no-brainer ) .In essence , Word , and MS Office if for little children just starting to learn to use office software on a computer .
Real users will prefer OpenOffice any day of the week ( and wo n't have to suffer the Ribbon either ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The second statement is true.
MS Office is barely usable.
If you need to write a document more sophisticated than a letter to mom, then forget about word.
The spreadsheet is terrible and doesn't use styles, has terribly limiting charts, (though in truth spreadsheets are not meant for plotting).
Have you ever tried printing graphs in excel on which you might have superimposed guiding lines or comments?
Right.  It does not look at all like what you drew in.
Everything has changed position.
OpenOffice is what you see is what you get.Again, with the slides, you have the possibility to use styles in OpenOffice.
The graphics support is much better across all applications.
And it's easy to use styles in the word-processor.
Oh yeah, and try setting up your own variables in Word (without having to resort to VBA).
Right.  You can insert a field with a variable, but it does not let you natively define a new variable and assign it a value.
And last time I checked it didn't let me do simple calculations in a table (PO forms are easier to generate in a text document).
Also, the mailmerge in Word is almost impossible to use, and certainly not as versatile as OpenOffice's, it does not have Master Documents (awesome when writing a thesis, book, etc), and the labels/business cards feature is simply laughable (no option for syncing the whole page, which I thought would be a no-brainer).In essence, Word, and MS Office if for little children just starting to learn to use office software on a computer.
Real users will prefer OpenOffice any day of the week (and won't have to suffer the Ribbon either).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_02_2148201.31007398</id>
	<title>Re:Problem is</title>
	<author>Rhaban</author>
	<datestamp>1264931760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OOo is better than MSO in some ways.</p><p>I use both at work, and often I open<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.doc files in OO.o rather than MSO because MSO doesn't want to print images on the office printer (not a matter of settings or drivers - I tried everything).</p><p>And OOo doesn't takes the entire system down with it when it crashes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OOo is better than MSO in some ways.I use both at work , and often I open .doc files in OO.o rather than MSO because MSO does n't want to print images on the office printer ( not a matter of settings or drivers - I tried everything ) .And OOo does n't takes the entire system down with it when it crashes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OOo is better than MSO in some ways.I use both at work, and often I open .doc files in OO.o rather than MSO because MSO doesn't want to print images on the office printer (not a matter of settings or drivers - I tried everything).And OOo doesn't takes the entire system down with it when it crashes.</sentencetext>
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