<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_30_2245207</id>
	<title>Solutions For More Community At Work?</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1264850640000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>CrunkCreeper writes <i>"I work at a tier-2 hosting company (SAP, web servers, Citrix, databases, etc.). I started working at this location two years ago in January. The company had anywhere from 20-30 other employees, and now we are just over 100. People with all different IT experience are employed. At one end of the spectrum, you have accounting, billing, and sales. At the other end you have the help desk, analysts, and engineers. In the past we were hiring mainly people in their 20s, and now we're hiring more senior people in their 30s and 40s. Incidentally with our expanded demographic and recently aggressive hiring, people are not as familiar with each other as they used to be. This happens to some extent and will continue to happen more the larger our company grows, but I would like to curb the corporate feel a bit. I'm trying to bring family or community feel back to the company. The reason for this need is that great ideas are normally discussed in non-formal environments. Beside this fact, I want people to genuinely have more fun and decrease the sometimes uncomfortable discussions with 'that guy' from 'that department.' Being an IT company, I find it more natural for collaboration via computer, but welcome more traditional methods too. How does your company keep or build a community environment using technology?"</i> Read on for some more on how it works at CrunkCreeper's workplace, and give suggestions for how to make things better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>CrunkCreeper writes " I work at a tier-2 hosting company ( SAP , web servers , Citrix , databases , etc. ) .
I started working at this location two years ago in January .
The company had anywhere from 20-30 other employees , and now we are just over 100 .
People with all different IT experience are employed .
At one end of the spectrum , you have accounting , billing , and sales .
At the other end you have the help desk , analysts , and engineers .
In the past we were hiring mainly people in their 20s , and now we 're hiring more senior people in their 30s and 40s .
Incidentally with our expanded demographic and recently aggressive hiring , people are not as familiar with each other as they used to be .
This happens to some extent and will continue to happen more the larger our company grows , but I would like to curb the corporate feel a bit .
I 'm trying to bring family or community feel back to the company .
The reason for this need is that great ideas are normally discussed in non-formal environments .
Beside this fact , I want people to genuinely have more fun and decrease the sometimes uncomfortable discussions with 'that guy ' from 'that department .
' Being an IT company , I find it more natural for collaboration via computer , but welcome more traditional methods too .
How does your company keep or build a community environment using technology ?
" Read on for some more on how it works at CrunkCreeper 's workplace , and give suggestions for how to make things better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CrunkCreeper writes "I work at a tier-2 hosting company (SAP, web servers, Citrix, databases, etc.).
I started working at this location two years ago in January.
The company had anywhere from 20-30 other employees, and now we are just over 100.
People with all different IT experience are employed.
At one end of the spectrum, you have accounting, billing, and sales.
At the other end you have the help desk, analysts, and engineers.
In the past we were hiring mainly people in their 20s, and now we're hiring more senior people in their 30s and 40s.
Incidentally with our expanded demographic and recently aggressive hiring, people are not as familiar with each other as they used to be.
This happens to some extent and will continue to happen more the larger our company grows, but I would like to curb the corporate feel a bit.
I'm trying to bring family or community feel back to the company.
The reason for this need is that great ideas are normally discussed in non-formal environments.
Beside this fact, I want people to genuinely have more fun and decrease the sometimes uncomfortable discussions with 'that guy' from 'that department.
' Being an IT company, I find it more natural for collaboration via computer, but welcome more traditional methods too.
How does your company keep or build a community environment using technology?
" Read on for some more on how it works at CrunkCreeper's workplace, and give suggestions for how to make things better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966636</id>
	<title>Family?!? It's a place of business.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264856280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I'm trying to bring family or community feel back to the company.</p></div><p>Whenever I hear the term "family" being used at or for a place of <i>business</i> my cynical thoughts start to run amok. </p><p>For one thing, aside from very screwed up and sad situations, your family is always your family. A business has you as family until the next downsizing or the next CEO comes in and due to global competition,  sends you and a bunch of others away. Many times the "family" cover is an excuse to pay you less.</p><p>Secondly, in a family, I can be my weird quirky self. I can get mad, I can shout, I can be a bigot, I can tease without it turning into an HR problem and I can make self-effacing jokes without someone taking me seriously. I can ask about sleep issues, depression, or other things and be comfortable and NOT have to worry about it affecting my status in the family. </p><p>In a business environment, I have to put on airs, I have to hide parts of myself, swallow my anger some when incompetent jerk screws me over, I can't be honest and say "I fucked up, but let me fix it" - that'll get me fired. </p><p>Yes, I've heard of companies that in the past have done some very nice things for employees, DuPont for one, and they actually called their employees family, but I ask you, how many "family members" that worked for DuPont got to share in the <i>billions</i> of dollars that the patriarch left when he died? I didn't think so.</p><p>Anyone who equates family with employment has a very different idea of what family is than what I do.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I 'm trying to bring family or community feel back to the company.Whenever I hear the term " family " being used at or for a place of business my cynical thoughts start to run amok .
For one thing , aside from very screwed up and sad situations , your family is always your family .
A business has you as family until the next downsizing or the next CEO comes in and due to global competition , sends you and a bunch of others away .
Many times the " family " cover is an excuse to pay you less.Secondly , in a family , I can be my weird quirky self .
I can get mad , I can shout , I can be a bigot , I can tease without it turning into an HR problem and I can make self-effacing jokes without someone taking me seriously .
I can ask about sleep issues , depression , or other things and be comfortable and NOT have to worry about it affecting my status in the family .
In a business environment , I have to put on airs , I have to hide parts of myself , swallow my anger some when incompetent jerk screws me over , I ca n't be honest and say " I fucked up , but let me fix it " - that 'll get me fired .
Yes , I 've heard of companies that in the past have done some very nice things for employees , DuPont for one , and they actually called their employees family , but I ask you , how many " family members " that worked for DuPont got to share in the billions of dollars that the patriarch left when he died ?
I did n't think so.Anyone who equates family with employment has a very different idea of what family is than what I do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I'm trying to bring family or community feel back to the company.Whenever I hear the term "family" being used at or for a place of business my cynical thoughts start to run amok.
For one thing, aside from very screwed up and sad situations, your family is always your family.
A business has you as family until the next downsizing or the next CEO comes in and due to global competition,  sends you and a bunch of others away.
Many times the "family" cover is an excuse to pay you less.Secondly, in a family, I can be my weird quirky self.
I can get mad, I can shout, I can be a bigot, I can tease without it turning into an HR problem and I can make self-effacing jokes without someone taking me seriously.
I can ask about sleep issues, depression, or other things and be comfortable and NOT have to worry about it affecting my status in the family.
In a business environment, I have to put on airs, I have to hide parts of myself, swallow my anger some when incompetent jerk screws me over, I can't be honest and say "I fucked up, but let me fix it" - that'll get me fired.
Yes, I've heard of companies that in the past have done some very nice things for employees, DuPont for one, and they actually called their employees family, but I ask you, how many "family members" that worked for DuPont got to share in the billions of dollars that the patriarch left when he died?
I didn't think so.Anyone who equates family with employment has a very different idea of what family is than what I do.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966866</id>
	<title>environment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264858260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most companies I've ever work for especially in the US think its OK to put their employees in conditions you wouldn't keep an animal in.<br>If you want people to feel good about working there then the first thing is to make the office a nice environment to be in.<br>Get rid of dehumanising things like cubes, dress codes for people that never face clients, institutional wall and floor colours, and especially kill that horrible strip lighting that most offices use. Get some plants, shared spaces with comfortable furniture and as much natural daylight or eyestrain-friendly lighting in the place as you can.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most companies I 've ever work for especially in the US think its OK to put their employees in conditions you would n't keep an animal in.If you want people to feel good about working there then the first thing is to make the office a nice environment to be in.Get rid of dehumanising things like cubes , dress codes for people that never face clients , institutional wall and floor colours , and especially kill that horrible strip lighting that most offices use .
Get some plants , shared spaces with comfortable furniture and as much natural daylight or eyestrain-friendly lighting in the place as you can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most companies I've ever work for especially in the US think its OK to put their employees in conditions you wouldn't keep an animal in.If you want people to feel good about working there then the first thing is to make the office a nice environment to be in.Get rid of dehumanising things like cubes, dress codes for people that never face clients, institutional wall and floor colours, and especially kill that horrible strip lighting that most offices use.
Get some plants, shared spaces with comfortable furniture and as much natural daylight or eyestrain-friendly lighting in the place as you can.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966612</id>
	<title>buy an espresso machine</title>
	<author>h00manist</author>
	<datestamp>1264856040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>and take a barista class.  a couple classes in rebellions and revolutions 101, too.  and perhaps some study of war, peace, and public speaking. shoot the computers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>and take a barista class .
a couple classes in rebellions and revolutions 101 , too .
and perhaps some study of war , peace , and public speaking .
shoot the computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and take a barista class.
a couple classes in rebellions and revolutions 101, too.
and perhaps some study of war, peace, and public speaking.
shoot the computers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966594</id>
	<title>Two words:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264855920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nerf Guns</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nerf Guns</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nerf Guns</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30971172</id>
	<title>Re:You're not getting much good counsel, so far...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You need to analyze yourself and figure out why you became such a bitter sack of shit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You need to analyze yourself and figure out why you became such a bitter sack of shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You need to analyze yourself and figure out why you became such a bitter sack of shit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30976914</id>
	<title>Re:environment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264955160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds nice, where do you get a nice cosy office like that? I worked for a company that re-built its offices and we got moved to portakabins on the car park for 18 months. Summer was hot as hell (black roof didnt help), winter the toilets/water froze up. Some animals made a nest underneath the cabins and there was a major flee outbreak. We did share the canteen with a trucking company and the sausage &amp; tom toasties were the best ive ever had. The next company I worked for (Major Pharma) ran out of office space, and couldnt expand the building, but they could bolt portakabins next to building (planning loophole) so i enjoyed another 2 years in a bloody portakabin. The mix &amp; match breakfast was cool, sausage, bacon, hashbrown, fried egg in a cobb was a gut buster but it tasted fk'n fab. (UK)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds nice , where do you get a nice cosy office like that ?
I worked for a company that re-built its offices and we got moved to portakabins on the car park for 18 months .
Summer was hot as hell ( black roof didnt help ) , winter the toilets/water froze up .
Some animals made a nest underneath the cabins and there was a major flee outbreak .
We did share the canteen with a trucking company and the sausage &amp; tom toasties were the best ive ever had .
The next company I worked for ( Major Pharma ) ran out of office space , and couldnt expand the building , but they could bolt portakabins next to building ( planning loophole ) so i enjoyed another 2 years in a bloody portakabin .
The mix &amp; match breakfast was cool , sausage , bacon , hashbrown , fried egg in a cobb was a gut buster but it tasted fk'n fab .
( UK )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds nice, where do you get a nice cosy office like that?
I worked for a company that re-built its offices and we got moved to portakabins on the car park for 18 months.
Summer was hot as hell (black roof didnt help), winter the toilets/water froze up.
Some animals made a nest underneath the cabins and there was a major flee outbreak.
We did share the canteen with a trucking company and the sausage &amp; tom toasties were the best ive ever had.
The next company I worked for (Major Pharma) ran out of office space, and couldnt expand the building, but they could bolt portakabins next to building (planning loophole) so i enjoyed another 2 years in a bloody portakabin.
The mix &amp; match breakfast was cool, sausage, bacon, hashbrown, fried egg in a cobb was a gut buster but it tasted fk'n fab.
(UK)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967456</id>
	<title>StatusNet</title>
	<author>supersloshy</author>
	<datestamp>1264863840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://status.net/" title="status.net" rel="nofollow">StatusNet</a> [status.net] is a neat platform that runs <a href="http://identi.ca/" title="identi.ca" rel="nofollow">Identica</a> [identi.ca], a twitter alternative. It's free as in freedom (GNU AGPL), and it has pretty much every feature twitter has and more. You can view conversations people have instead of searching for hours for who-responded-to-what-and-how-many-people-were-involved. You can customize the theme and upload files, too! There's lots of other optional features you can use as well, and it has a similar API to twitter, so lots of applications already support it. Try it out and see if it works for you; you can even chose where it's hosted!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>StatusNet [ status.net ] is a neat platform that runs Identica [ identi.ca ] , a twitter alternative .
It 's free as in freedom ( GNU AGPL ) , and it has pretty much every feature twitter has and more .
You can view conversations people have instead of searching for hours for who-responded-to-what-and-how-many-people-were-involved .
You can customize the theme and upload files , too !
There 's lots of other optional features you can use as well , and it has a similar API to twitter , so lots of applications already support it .
Try it out and see if it works for you ; you can even chose where it 's hosted !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>StatusNet [status.net] is a neat platform that runs Identica [identi.ca], a twitter alternative.
It's free as in freedom (GNU AGPL), and it has pretty much every feature twitter has and more.
You can view conversations people have instead of searching for hours for who-responded-to-what-and-how-many-people-were-involved.
You can customize the theme and upload files, too!
There's lots of other optional features you can use as well, and it has a similar API to twitter, so lots of applications already support it.
Try it out and see if it works for you; you can even chose where it's hosted!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30969522</id>
	<title>Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264942920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>water cooler is tech</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>water cooler is tech</tokentext>
<sentencetext>water cooler is tech</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967966</id>
	<title>Re:Older Guy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264871160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>As an older guy in your scenario (40ish), I'd have to say that I don't want to socialize more with most of my co-workers unless there is a charge number in it. As with the rest of life my desire to be around my co-workers follows the 80/20 rule. In this case, about 80\% of my co-workers should not be near me without a charge-number.</i> </p><p>100\% agreed!</p><p>You pick your friends; your relatives and co-workers are given to you.</p><p>If I find someone I'd like to associate with outside of work, we'll get together. I don't need someone impressing "community" on me.</p><p>Yeah, I'm retired, but I was quite happy to do so before all the electronic leashes were in place. I did a lot of various support programming and don't know how people deal with the constant interruptions and meetings and other time wasters.</p><p>Where I worked last, a major software house, they were surprisingly loose about staff installing crap on their computers. They had trouble with a couple of versions of AIM, mostly for non-business reasons. It royally screwed up the existing networking setup when installed. But eventually, everyone with customer contact had to have AIM (installed correctly by the network group) so clients could annoy them as often as they felt like it. Between that and internal IMs, I have no idea how they accomplished anything on their own scheduled projects when they were dragged off every five minutes in a different direction.</p><p>Maybe no one's noticed, but it's now being recognized more widely that the whole multi-tasking thing is a load of crap. You don't switch tasks instantaneously like a computer and come back exactly to where you were from another task -- there's a penalty for having your concentration broken.</p><p>Some people may juggle things better than others, bt it's totally unrealistic to expect that everyone in the organization does it at an optimum level.</p><p>Hah! -- captcha = robotic</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As an older guy in your scenario ( 40ish ) , I 'd have to say that I do n't want to socialize more with most of my co-workers unless there is a charge number in it .
As with the rest of life my desire to be around my co-workers follows the 80/20 rule .
In this case , about 80 \ % of my co-workers should not be near me without a charge-number .
100 \ % agreed ! You pick your friends ; your relatives and co-workers are given to you.If I find someone I 'd like to associate with outside of work , we 'll get together .
I do n't need someone impressing " community " on me.Yeah , I 'm retired , but I was quite happy to do so before all the electronic leashes were in place .
I did a lot of various support programming and do n't know how people deal with the constant interruptions and meetings and other time wasters.Where I worked last , a major software house , they were surprisingly loose about staff installing crap on their computers .
They had trouble with a couple of versions of AIM , mostly for non-business reasons .
It royally screwed up the existing networking setup when installed .
But eventually , everyone with customer contact had to have AIM ( installed correctly by the network group ) so clients could annoy them as often as they felt like it .
Between that and internal IMs , I have no idea how they accomplished anything on their own scheduled projects when they were dragged off every five minutes in a different direction.Maybe no one 's noticed , but it 's now being recognized more widely that the whole multi-tasking thing is a load of crap .
You do n't switch tasks instantaneously like a computer and come back exactly to where you were from another task -- there 's a penalty for having your concentration broken.Some people may juggle things better than others , bt it 's totally unrealistic to expect that everyone in the organization does it at an optimum level.Hah !
-- captcha = robotic</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an older guy in your scenario (40ish), I'd have to say that I don't want to socialize more with most of my co-workers unless there is a charge number in it.
As with the rest of life my desire to be around my co-workers follows the 80/20 rule.
In this case, about 80\% of my co-workers should not be near me without a charge-number.
100\% agreed!You pick your friends; your relatives and co-workers are given to you.If I find someone I'd like to associate with outside of work, we'll get together.
I don't need someone impressing "community" on me.Yeah, I'm retired, but I was quite happy to do so before all the electronic leashes were in place.
I did a lot of various support programming and don't know how people deal with the constant interruptions and meetings and other time wasters.Where I worked last, a major software house, they were surprisingly loose about staff installing crap on their computers.
They had trouble with a couple of versions of AIM, mostly for non-business reasons.
It royally screwed up the existing networking setup when installed.
But eventually, everyone with customer contact had to have AIM (installed correctly by the network group) so clients could annoy them as often as they felt like it.
Between that and internal IMs, I have no idea how they accomplished anything on their own scheduled projects when they were dragged off every five minutes in a different direction.Maybe no one's noticed, but it's now being recognized more widely that the whole multi-tasking thing is a load of crap.
You don't switch tasks instantaneously like a computer and come back exactly to where you were from another task -- there's a penalty for having your concentration broken.Some people may juggle things better than others, bt it's totally unrealistic to expect that everyone in the organization does it at an optimum level.Hah!
-- captcha = robotic</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967120</id>
	<title>You fail at grammar argument.</title>
	<author>raehl</author>
	<datestamp>1264860540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nowhere, EVER, does "America" refer to an entire continent.  That's because there is a <i>North America and a <i>South America</i>.  "The Americas" can refer to both continents combined, or if you want to stretch it, even "America" can refer to both continents combined.</i></p><p><i>But context matters.  When using English, "America" in the singular almost always means "United States of America".  Especially in comments on a website based in the US.</i></p><p><i>Not that the rest of the GP's post makes any sense.....</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nowhere , EVER , does " America " refer to an entire continent .
That 's because there is a North America and a South America .
" The Americas " can refer to both continents combined , or if you want to stretch it , even " America " can refer to both continents combined.But context matters .
When using English , " America " in the singular almost always means " United States of America " .
Especially in comments on a website based in the US.Not that the rest of the GP 's post makes any sense.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nowhere, EVER, does "America" refer to an entire continent.
That's because there is a North America and a South America.
"The Americas" can refer to both continents combined, or if you want to stretch it, even "America" can refer to both continents combined.But context matters.
When using English, "America" in the singular almost always means "United States of America".
Especially in comments on a website based in the US.Not that the rest of the GP's post makes any sense.....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30970108</id>
	<title>Re:Its simple,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264950960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>community has nothing to do with size , i am in a large multinational , tens of thousands of us , employee#'s. but at the same time i have my network , my clique of uber geeks that get together for problem solving and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....beers.<br>membership is really simple , just an unformal group among the group that "bring the shoulder to the weel" we just help out each other out of respect of the effort brought to the company. of course as a clique we have profound disdain for parasites but thats part of the game</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>community has nothing to do with size , i am in a large multinational , tens of thousands of us , employee # 's .
but at the same time i have my network , my clique of uber geeks that get together for problem solving and ....beers.membership is really simple , just an unformal group among the group that " bring the shoulder to the weel " we just help out each other out of respect of the effort brought to the company .
of course as a clique we have profound disdain for parasites but thats part of the game</tokentext>
<sentencetext>community has nothing to do with size , i am in a large multinational , tens of thousands of us , employee#'s.
but at the same time i have my network , my clique of uber geeks that get together for problem solving and ....beers.membership is really simple , just an unformal group among the group that "bring the shoulder to the weel" we just help out each other out of respect of the effort brought to the company.
of course as a clique we have profound disdain for parasites but thats part of the game</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968440</id>
	<title>So what?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264878420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its a business. You come to work, not get a hand-job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its a business .
You come to work , not get a hand-job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its a business.
You come to work, not get a hand-job.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966560</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas:</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1264855620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you recommend hiring other xenophobics?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you recommend hiring other xenophobics ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you recommend hiring other xenophobics?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966422</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30970354</id>
	<title>Re:Its simple,</title>
	<author>phoenix321</author>
	<datestamp>1264953480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The beer parties with your Middle Eastern immigrants will be a blast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The beer parties with your Middle Eastern immigrants will be a blast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The beer parties with your Middle Eastern immigrants will be a blast.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966668</id>
	<title>Free Beer</title>
	<author>cetialphav</author>
	<datestamp>1264856460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>None of the things that I see mentioned will really help build community or get people to know each other.  To do that, you need to setup an informal environment where people can relax.  An all-hands company meeting can never be that.  One company I worked at used to have some sort of celebration a few times a year.  For example, they would have an Oktoberfest thing with free beer and snacks on a Friday afternoon.  Other events were summer barbeques and ice cream socials.</p><p>All of these things encourage people to talk with others outside their department in an informal way.  This can foster communication and collaboration during business hours and is actually pretty cheap to put on.  Not everything needs to have a technical solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>None of the things that I see mentioned will really help build community or get people to know each other .
To do that , you need to setup an informal environment where people can relax .
An all-hands company meeting can never be that .
One company I worked at used to have some sort of celebration a few times a year .
For example , they would have an Oktoberfest thing with free beer and snacks on a Friday afternoon .
Other events were summer barbeques and ice cream socials.All of these things encourage people to talk with others outside their department in an informal way .
This can foster communication and collaboration during business hours and is actually pretty cheap to put on .
Not everything needs to have a technical solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>None of the things that I see mentioned will really help build community or get people to know each other.
To do that, you need to setup an informal environment where people can relax.
An all-hands company meeting can never be that.
One company I worked at used to have some sort of celebration a few times a year.
For example, they would have an Oktoberfest thing with free beer and snacks on a Friday afternoon.
Other events were summer barbeques and ice cream socials.All of these things encourage people to talk with others outside their department in an informal way.
This can foster communication and collaboration during business hours and is actually pretty cheap to put on.
Not everything needs to have a technical solution.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30970412</id>
	<title>Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but...</title>
	<author>phoenix321</author>
	<datestamp>1264953840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Social communities also build through abstraction behind a screen. On the Internet nobody knows you're a dog and all.</p><p>Social activity usually reinforces existing social circles which is exactly what you don't want in a recently-assembled company. Because they already have social circles, as small circles form spontaneously and you don't want to reinforce them, since that would break out the trench warfare.</p><p>You need to equalize them first so they can socialize as a singular group. This is exactly what they do over at Camp Pendleton, but not everyone is willing to join the Marines just for the social events.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Social communities also build through abstraction behind a screen .
On the Internet nobody knows you 're a dog and all.Social activity usually reinforces existing social circles which is exactly what you do n't want in a recently-assembled company .
Because they already have social circles , as small circles form spontaneously and you do n't want to reinforce them , since that would break out the trench warfare.You need to equalize them first so they can socialize as a singular group .
This is exactly what they do over at Camp Pendleton , but not everyone is willing to join the Marines just for the social events .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Social communities also build through abstraction behind a screen.
On the Internet nobody knows you're a dog and all.Social activity usually reinforces existing social circles which is exactly what you don't want in a recently-assembled company.
Because they already have social circles, as small circles form spontaneously and you don't want to reinforce them, since that would break out the trench warfare.You need to equalize them first so they can socialize as a singular group.
This is exactly what they do over at Camp Pendleton, but not everyone is willing to join the Marines just for the social events.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966426</id>
	<title>Facebook for enterprise</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264854480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are many enterprise social software tools now available, such as http://lotuslive.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are many enterprise social software tools now available , such as http : //lotuslive.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are many enterprise social software tools now available, such as http://lotuslive.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968770</id>
	<title>Follow Virgin's Lead</title>
	<author>auLucifer</author>
	<datestamp>1264928400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Richard Branson has some good ideas with Virgin when his divisions grow.<br>
Once a team gets too big (I can't remember the number, 50?) he cuts the team in half and then has each team run independently with their own budgets, etc. This lets people know and meet a smaller number of people instead of having to get to know hundreds or thousands.<br>
It also helps the people create a community they can interact with. Sure you won't have one massive community but who really wants a love-in with hundreds when you've got work to do? Instead of thinking about 1 monolithic community try and think of multiple, smaller communities that people can become involved in and feel like they actually contribute to something greater.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Richard Branson has some good ideas with Virgin when his divisions grow .
Once a team gets too big ( I ca n't remember the number , 50 ?
) he cuts the team in half and then has each team run independently with their own budgets , etc .
This lets people know and meet a smaller number of people instead of having to get to know hundreds or thousands .
It also helps the people create a community they can interact with .
Sure you wo n't have one massive community but who really wants a love-in with hundreds when you 've got work to do ?
Instead of thinking about 1 monolithic community try and think of multiple , smaller communities that people can become involved in and feel like they actually contribute to something greater .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Richard Branson has some good ideas with Virgin when his divisions grow.
Once a team gets too big (I can't remember the number, 50?
) he cuts the team in half and then has each team run independently with their own budgets, etc.
This lets people know and meet a smaller number of people instead of having to get to know hundreds or thousands.
It also helps the people create a community they can interact with.
Sure you won't have one massive community but who really wants a love-in with hundreds when you've got work to do?
Instead of thinking about 1 monolithic community try and think of multiple, smaller communities that people can become involved in and feel like they actually contribute to something greater.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968394</id>
	<title>Re:Job security</title>
	<author>stephanruby</author>
	<datestamp>1264877700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>People aren't going to form emotional attachments to people who may mysteriously vanish from their cubicals after the next quarterly results.</p></div><p>Let me guess, you've never been to College, or you've never had any emotional attachments there.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People are n't going to form emotional attachments to people who may mysteriously vanish from their cubicals after the next quarterly results.Let me guess , you 've never been to College , or you 've never had any emotional attachments there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People aren't going to form emotional attachments to people who may mysteriously vanish from their cubicals after the next quarterly results.Let me guess, you've never been to College, or you've never had any emotional attachments there.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966752</id>
	<title>Whip me, beat me.  Mod me down.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264857120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a SENIOR staff member @55, it "resemble" that remark!

IBM use to promote work at home, home at work.  Don't know if they still do.  More lip service anyway.

My advice is not to get too chummy (overtly) at the work place, making it too family oriented is not all good.

Keep the work professional and "on task" keeps folk as better more productive workers and happier, of all age mixes.  Yes, you can still have fun but your there to your job to do.  It also helps to keep the inevitable work place politics to a minimum.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a SENIOR staff member @ 55 , it " resemble " that remark !
IBM use to promote work at home , home at work .
Do n't know if they still do .
More lip service anyway .
My advice is not to get too chummy ( overtly ) at the work place , making it too family oriented is not all good .
Keep the work professional and " on task " keeps folk as better more productive workers and happier , of all age mixes .
Yes , you can still have fun but your there to your job to do .
It also helps to keep the inevitable work place politics to a minimum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a SENIOR staff member @55, it "resemble" that remark!
IBM use to promote work at home, home at work.
Don't know if they still do.
More lip service anyway.
My advice is not to get too chummy (overtly) at the work place, making it too family oriented is not all good.
Keep the work professional and "on task" keeps folk as better more productive workers and happier, of all age mixes.
Yes, you can still have fun but your there to your job to do.
It also helps to keep the inevitable work place politics to a minimum.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966620</id>
	<title>You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>zitsky</author>
	<datestamp>1264856160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've worked in several startup companies that grew quickly.  You can't *make* people want to get to know each other or spend more time together.  You're fighting the natural changes that happen when a company starts getting bigger.  Implementing technology will not solve the problem you're trying to address.  If you really want people to know each other and interact, then find ways for them to spend face time with each other.  Host parties, organize events at local bars, have some group lunches, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've worked in several startup companies that grew quickly .
You ca n't * make * people want to get to know each other or spend more time together .
You 're fighting the natural changes that happen when a company starts getting bigger .
Implementing technology will not solve the problem you 're trying to address .
If you really want people to know each other and interact , then find ways for them to spend face time with each other .
Host parties , organize events at local bars , have some group lunches , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've worked in several startup companies that grew quickly.
You can't *make* people want to get to know each other or spend more time together.
You're fighting the natural changes that happen when a company starts getting bigger.
Implementing technology will not solve the problem you're trying to address.
If you really want people to know each other and interact, then find ways for them to spend face time with each other.
Host parties, organize events at local bars, have some group lunches, etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30974984</id>
	<title>Effective Communications in a Large Org</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264940040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The original poster mentions two "problems", the first had to do with effective communications in a large organization, and the second had to do creating an environment where people could still get that small company feel as the organization grew.  As several people have pointed out, the older the workforce gets, and the larger the company gets, the less interest there will be on the part of employees (especially older employees) to spend their personal time with co-workers.  So let's focus less on the fun, and more on improving communications and finding ways to allow for the free flow of information and ideas within a growing organization using technology (since that seems to be what the original poster is getting at).</p><p>If you're looking for a way for people to informally discuss projects, tech problems, policy, or simply a way to build and store "common knowledge", then you should avoid "realtime communication tools" (ex: IM, IRC, phone, etc.), and focus on asynchronous or collaborative tools.  You can start with something simple like a web based forum or a wiki, and then move to more complicated systems as more people get involved.  But in order for these kinds of asynchronous communication systems to really be useful to an organization you (eventually) need top-down support and you need some fairly clear policy regarding the things that won't be discussed online before you start.  Some of this policy will deal with simple operational issues (ex: requests for IT help should be submitted using the company approved helpdesk system not the company internal forums), some policies will deal with HR issues (ex: management shouldn't discuss personnel problems online in the "managers forum"), and some of those policies will be related to legal issues (ex: corporate document retention policies will also apply to the online "knowledge and collaboration systems"). In the end, the tools you use will depend a lot on the resources available, and the kind of collaboration you're looking to encourage (which is why it's often useful to get support from senior management before you put something in production).  But whatever way you decide to go, it's best to approach this using the same methodology you'd use to develop and deploy any new service in your company (ie: figure out the goals, what's in-scope and out, etc. etc.).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The original poster mentions two " problems " , the first had to do with effective communications in a large organization , and the second had to do creating an environment where people could still get that small company feel as the organization grew .
As several people have pointed out , the older the workforce gets , and the larger the company gets , the less interest there will be on the part of employees ( especially older employees ) to spend their personal time with co-workers .
So let 's focus less on the fun , and more on improving communications and finding ways to allow for the free flow of information and ideas within a growing organization using technology ( since that seems to be what the original poster is getting at ) .If you 're looking for a way for people to informally discuss projects , tech problems , policy , or simply a way to build and store " common knowledge " , then you should avoid " realtime communication tools " ( ex : IM , IRC , phone , etc .
) , and focus on asynchronous or collaborative tools .
You can start with something simple like a web based forum or a wiki , and then move to more complicated systems as more people get involved .
But in order for these kinds of asynchronous communication systems to really be useful to an organization you ( eventually ) need top-down support and you need some fairly clear policy regarding the things that wo n't be discussed online before you start .
Some of this policy will deal with simple operational issues ( ex : requests for IT help should be submitted using the company approved helpdesk system not the company internal forums ) , some policies will deal with HR issues ( ex : management should n't discuss personnel problems online in the " managers forum " ) , and some of those policies will be related to legal issues ( ex : corporate document retention policies will also apply to the online " knowledge and collaboration systems " ) .
In the end , the tools you use will depend a lot on the resources available , and the kind of collaboration you 're looking to encourage ( which is why it 's often useful to get support from senior management before you put something in production ) .
But whatever way you decide to go , it 's best to approach this using the same methodology you 'd use to develop and deploy any new service in your company ( ie : figure out the goals , what 's in-scope and out , etc .
etc. ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The original poster mentions two "problems", the first had to do with effective communications in a large organization, and the second had to do creating an environment where people could still get that small company feel as the organization grew.
As several people have pointed out, the older the workforce gets, and the larger the company gets, the less interest there will be on the part of employees (especially older employees) to spend their personal time with co-workers.
So let's focus less on the fun, and more on improving communications and finding ways to allow for the free flow of information and ideas within a growing organization using technology (since that seems to be what the original poster is getting at).If you're looking for a way for people to informally discuss projects, tech problems, policy, or simply a way to build and store "common knowledge", then you should avoid "realtime communication tools" (ex: IM, IRC, phone, etc.
), and focus on asynchronous or collaborative tools.
You can start with something simple like a web based forum or a wiki, and then move to more complicated systems as more people get involved.
But in order for these kinds of asynchronous communication systems to really be useful to an organization you (eventually) need top-down support and you need some fairly clear policy regarding the things that won't be discussed online before you start.
Some of this policy will deal with simple operational issues (ex: requests for IT help should be submitted using the company approved helpdesk system not the company internal forums), some policies will deal with HR issues (ex: management shouldn't discuss personnel problems online in the "managers forum"), and some of those policies will be related to legal issues (ex: corporate document retention policies will also apply to the online "knowledge and collaboration systems").
In the end, the tools you use will depend a lot on the resources available, and the kind of collaboration you're looking to encourage (which is why it's often useful to get support from senior management before you put something in production).
But whatever way you decide to go, it's best to approach this using the same methodology you'd use to develop and deploy any new service in your company (ie: figure out the goals, what's in-scope and out, etc.
etc.).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967176</id>
	<title>Beyond insightful</title>
	<author>Overzeetop</author>
	<datestamp>1264860900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody gets close working on work-related projects.  It's the non-work things you have in common with people that makes them something other than their position. Unfortunately, you can't force this from the top, and your HR department can't be tasked with making everybody like each other*. You will need to get the ball rolling for extracurricular clubs. Note: this will cost company time, both when you set it up, and every time an event occurs. Golfers and bowlers will leave 10 minutes early to hit the links/lanes, and then waste another 20 minutes the next morning discussing the particulars of the event.  It's worth it - worth every dollar.</p><p>Sports: Golf, bowling, flag football, (insert other sports as appropriate)<br>Arts: Dinner/show clubs (you provide busses, if possible), singing groups (a holiday chorus that sings at local events or ret. homes)<br>Environmental/Community Service groups<br>Anything where you have a group of people that cuts across the company (i.e. - no correlation to work stuff) is good.</p><p>Help out with meeting space, minor cost items (weekly gift for lowest foursome, maybe a small trophy at the end, a room for group meetings or practices), but mostly leave them alone. If you meddle, it will backfire.</p><p>Finally, understand that there will be some people who completely separate work from play - they're there for a paycheck, and have no desire to interact. Offer them inclusion, but mostly let them be.</p><p>*The "company picnic" is about the worst function ever to try and engender camaraderie.  You throw people together who interact in smaller groups, with interest completely apart from the activities you will provide.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody gets close working on work-related projects .
It 's the non-work things you have in common with people that makes them something other than their position .
Unfortunately , you ca n't force this from the top , and your HR department ca n't be tasked with making everybody like each other * .
You will need to get the ball rolling for extracurricular clubs .
Note : this will cost company time , both when you set it up , and every time an event occurs .
Golfers and bowlers will leave 10 minutes early to hit the links/lanes , and then waste another 20 minutes the next morning discussing the particulars of the event .
It 's worth it - worth every dollar.Sports : Golf , bowling , flag football , ( insert other sports as appropriate ) Arts : Dinner/show clubs ( you provide busses , if possible ) , singing groups ( a holiday chorus that sings at local events or ret .
homes ) Environmental/Community Service groupsAnything where you have a group of people that cuts across the company ( i.e .
- no correlation to work stuff ) is good.Help out with meeting space , minor cost items ( weekly gift for lowest foursome , maybe a small trophy at the end , a room for group meetings or practices ) , but mostly leave them alone .
If you meddle , it will backfire.Finally , understand that there will be some people who completely separate work from play - they 're there for a paycheck , and have no desire to interact .
Offer them inclusion , but mostly let them be .
* The " company picnic " is about the worst function ever to try and engender camaraderie .
You throw people together who interact in smaller groups , with interest completely apart from the activities you will provide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody gets close working on work-related projects.
It's the non-work things you have in common with people that makes them something other than their position.
Unfortunately, you can't force this from the top, and your HR department can't be tasked with making everybody like each other*.
You will need to get the ball rolling for extracurricular clubs.
Note: this will cost company time, both when you set it up, and every time an event occurs.
Golfers and bowlers will leave 10 minutes early to hit the links/lanes, and then waste another 20 minutes the next morning discussing the particulars of the event.
It's worth it - worth every dollar.Sports: Golf, bowling, flag football, (insert other sports as appropriate)Arts: Dinner/show clubs (you provide busses, if possible), singing groups (a holiday chorus that sings at local events or ret.
homes)Environmental/Community Service groupsAnything where you have a group of people that cuts across the company (i.e.
- no correlation to work stuff) is good.Help out with meeting space, minor cost items (weekly gift for lowest foursome, maybe a small trophy at the end, a room for group meetings or practices), but mostly leave them alone.
If you meddle, it will backfire.Finally, understand that there will be some people who completely separate work from play - they're there for a paycheck, and have no desire to interact.
Offer them inclusion, but mostly let them be.
*The "company picnic" is about the worst function ever to try and engender camaraderie.
You throw people together who interact in smaller groups, with interest completely apart from the activities you will provide.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30969138</id>
	<title>Personal XP</title>
	<author>zigmeister</author>
	<datestamp>1264936500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked for a software contractor in college. Real young, small company, contracted for a large corp. We had bi-weekly phone conference meetings every Tuesday/Thursday mornings for 15 min a piece. These were only for QA and development groups (kept small) and meant as free for all events were everybody could voice their issues etc. Of course there were the "project wide meetings" which were more or less a dialogue between the various managers which were obviously useful for them (and nobody else) but didn't really build any spirit. To somebody working on the bottom of the food chain, the 15 minute stand up say your thing meetings did foster that sort of thing. Caveat: these probably require halfway reasonable and smart folks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked for a software contractor in college .
Real young , small company , contracted for a large corp. We had bi-weekly phone conference meetings every Tuesday/Thursday mornings for 15 min a piece .
These were only for QA and development groups ( kept small ) and meant as free for all events were everybody could voice their issues etc .
Of course there were the " project wide meetings " which were more or less a dialogue between the various managers which were obviously useful for them ( and nobody else ) but did n't really build any spirit .
To somebody working on the bottom of the food chain , the 15 minute stand up say your thing meetings did foster that sort of thing .
Caveat : these probably require halfway reasonable and smart folks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked for a software contractor in college.
Real young, small company, contracted for a large corp. We had bi-weekly phone conference meetings every Tuesday/Thursday mornings for 15 min a piece.
These were only for QA and development groups (kept small) and meant as free for all events were everybody could voice their issues etc.
Of course there were the "project wide meetings" which were more or less a dialogue between the various managers which were obviously useful for them (and nobody else) but didn't really build any spirit.
To somebody working on the bottom of the food chain, the 15 minute stand up say your thing meetings did foster that sort of thing.
Caveat: these probably require halfway reasonable and smart folks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968584</id>
	<title>Re:environment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264881120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree that cubes are pretty bad. I've worked in a cube and I've worked in an open-floor office. The open-floor office was much better. I had less personal space but I didn't feel walled in. Cubes don't really provide meaningful privacy but do stunt social activity and collaboration. That is, you can hear the guy two cubes over haggling over car prices on the phone, but if you want to round up people to go out you have to go around to everyone's cube individually. And when you're in an open environment you get the benefit of everyone's decorations, of the view out the windows, etc.</p><p>The funny/sad thing is that people in cubes really fight when management wants to alter the space by taking down or shortening walls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree that cubes are pretty bad .
I 've worked in a cube and I 've worked in an open-floor office .
The open-floor office was much better .
I had less personal space but I did n't feel walled in .
Cubes do n't really provide meaningful privacy but do stunt social activity and collaboration .
That is , you can hear the guy two cubes over haggling over car prices on the phone , but if you want to round up people to go out you have to go around to everyone 's cube individually .
And when you 're in an open environment you get the benefit of everyone 's decorations , of the view out the windows , etc.The funny/sad thing is that people in cubes really fight when management wants to alter the space by taking down or shortening walls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree that cubes are pretty bad.
I've worked in a cube and I've worked in an open-floor office.
The open-floor office was much better.
I had less personal space but I didn't feel walled in.
Cubes don't really provide meaningful privacy but do stunt social activity and collaboration.
That is, you can hear the guy two cubes over haggling over car prices on the phone, but if you want to round up people to go out you have to go around to everyone's cube individually.
And when you're in an open environment you get the benefit of everyone's decorations, of the view out the windows, etc.The funny/sad thing is that people in cubes really fight when management wants to alter the space by taking down or shortening walls.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30969174</id>
	<title>Re:I've never been a fan of it.</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1264937280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Its the community at work that decides whether a job is a soul sucking, burnout inducing hole or someplace you can actually enjoy going to every day.</p></div> </blockquote><p>On the other hand, if you enjoy your work and are friends with your coworkers, you'll lose far more than just pay when you're fired.</p><p>There's something to be said for working in the same place your entire career.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its the community at work that decides whether a job is a soul sucking , burnout inducing hole or someplace you can actually enjoy going to every day .
On the other hand , if you enjoy your work and are friends with your coworkers , you 'll lose far more than just pay when you 're fired.There 's something to be said for working in the same place your entire career .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its the community at work that decides whether a job is a soul sucking, burnout inducing hole or someplace you can actually enjoy going to every day.
On the other hand, if you enjoy your work and are friends with your coworkers, you'll lose far more than just pay when you're fired.There's something to be said for working in the same place your entire career.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967202</id>
	<title>Without using technology</title>
	<author>DaveGod</author>
	<datestamp>1264861200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>technology isn't very good for a "community environment", usually quite the reverse. People sending emails when they could be getting up and talking face-to-face (or at least using the telephone) is a bug-bear for many people and many organisations actively discourage it.

</p><p>Forums have no more value than email, it just doesn't pop up on your screen when you're trying to work. Instant messengers are merely an even worse form of email, because they positively demand an instant response and at best you get cliques forming (it's an exclusive, not inclusive form of communication). </p><p>Facebook does have some advantages, but mostly for colleagues who are already friends - if I had to join my work's Facebook there's no way I'd be using by real profile (despite approaching Facebook with the assumption that anybody I might not want to be reading it is doing so). A work Facebook is more like a collaborative newsletter - people put their carefully selected and sanitised holiday snaps up, in order to be seen to be contributing while offering nothing of any real social or community value.  </p><p>If you want community and a social work environment, be social. Have a good Christmas event. Recognise that having a couple of very gregarious people on staff is important. Keep a small pot of money to fund staff excursions - BBQ, paintball, karting, whatever, maybe with a bus so they can drink. Those gregarious people will probably be very good at organising these. The relatively social and friendly senior management can come sometimes, but make a timely exit when people look like they want to behave as they do with friends rather than as they do in front of the boss.</p><p>People have modded the "get a water cooler" comment funny. Funny because it's so true. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>technology is n't very good for a " community environment " , usually quite the reverse .
People sending emails when they could be getting up and talking face-to-face ( or at least using the telephone ) is a bug-bear for many people and many organisations actively discourage it .
Forums have no more value than email , it just does n't pop up on your screen when you 're trying to work .
Instant messengers are merely an even worse form of email , because they positively demand an instant response and at best you get cliques forming ( it 's an exclusive , not inclusive form of communication ) .
Facebook does have some advantages , but mostly for colleagues who are already friends - if I had to join my work 's Facebook there 's no way I 'd be using by real profile ( despite approaching Facebook with the assumption that anybody I might not want to be reading it is doing so ) .
A work Facebook is more like a collaborative newsletter - people put their carefully selected and sanitised holiday snaps up , in order to be seen to be contributing while offering nothing of any real social or community value .
If you want community and a social work environment , be social .
Have a good Christmas event .
Recognise that having a couple of very gregarious people on staff is important .
Keep a small pot of money to fund staff excursions - BBQ , paintball , karting , whatever , maybe with a bus so they can drink .
Those gregarious people will probably be very good at organising these .
The relatively social and friendly senior management can come sometimes , but make a timely exit when people look like they want to behave as they do with friends rather than as they do in front of the boss.People have modded the " get a water cooler " comment funny .
Funny because it 's so true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>technology isn't very good for a "community environment", usually quite the reverse.
People sending emails when they could be getting up and talking face-to-face (or at least using the telephone) is a bug-bear for many people and many organisations actively discourage it.
Forums have no more value than email, it just doesn't pop up on your screen when you're trying to work.
Instant messengers are merely an even worse form of email, because they positively demand an instant response and at best you get cliques forming (it's an exclusive, not inclusive form of communication).
Facebook does have some advantages, but mostly for colleagues who are already friends - if I had to join my work's Facebook there's no way I'd be using by real profile (despite approaching Facebook with the assumption that anybody I might not want to be reading it is doing so).
A work Facebook is more like a collaborative newsletter - people put their carefully selected and sanitised holiday snaps up, in order to be seen to be contributing while offering nothing of any real social or community value.
If you want community and a social work environment, be social.
Have a good Christmas event.
Recognise that having a couple of very gregarious people on staff is important.
Keep a small pot of money to fund staff excursions - BBQ, paintball, karting, whatever, maybe with a bus so they can drink.
Those gregarious people will probably be very good at organising these.
The relatively social and friendly senior management can come sometimes, but make a timely exit when people look like they want to behave as they do with friends rather than as they do in front of the boss.People have modded the "get a water cooler" comment funny.
Funny because it's so true. </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966912</id>
	<title>Team building outings and sports</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1264858740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It use to be popular, but IT bust and recession means you don't see team building outings. Best I ever went on was a half day sailing on the harbour - large boat, team effort required, introductory sailing. A couple of people already knew what they were doing and shared the knowledge with the newbs. Only problem is that's just one day and can be expensive. Team sports last longer, but can lead to time off work due to injury. What you basically need to do is get people doing something they ENJOY together rather than just the work. People tend to genuinely give a shit about people they spend leisure time with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It use to be popular , but IT bust and recession means you do n't see team building outings .
Best I ever went on was a half day sailing on the harbour - large boat , team effort required , introductory sailing .
A couple of people already knew what they were doing and shared the knowledge with the newbs .
Only problem is that 's just one day and can be expensive .
Team sports last longer , but can lead to time off work due to injury .
What you basically need to do is get people doing something they ENJOY together rather than just the work .
People tend to genuinely give a shit about people they spend leisure time with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It use to be popular, but IT bust and recession means you don't see team building outings.
Best I ever went on was a half day sailing on the harbour - large boat, team effort required, introductory sailing.
A couple of people already knew what they were doing and shared the knowledge with the newbs.
Only problem is that's just one day and can be expensive.
Team sports last longer, but can lead to time off work due to injury.
What you basically need to do is get people doing something they ENJOY together rather than just the work.
People tend to genuinely give a shit about people they spend leisure time with.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968318</id>
	<title>Yammer</title>
	<author>andrew\_starks</author>
	<datestamp>1264876560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yammer is awesome at our company. Very much like twitter, but private to your organization. Everyone, young and old, sales development, support, etc.. uses it. I think it's exactly what you're looking for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yammer is awesome at our company .
Very much like twitter , but private to your organization .
Everyone , young and old , sales development , support , etc.. uses it .
I think it 's exactly what you 're looking for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yammer is awesome at our company.
Very much like twitter, but private to your organization.
Everyone, young and old, sales development, support, etc.. uses it.
I think it's exactly what you're looking for.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966716</id>
	<title>The best ideas</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1264856820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The best ideas are the one you have yourself. These are the ones you remember. These are the ones that charge you enough emotionally that you're willing to act on them.</p><p>No one likes being manipulated into a system, into a different way of doing things. If you try to "impose" an "open, community environment" it will most likely backfire. However if you approach the people you want to include, present the problem to them and LISTEN to their suggestions, you're likely to get better results. Don't think of "one ideal method" for everyone because people are different - culturally, socially and in terms of personality. Some people respond to some things, and others need other things. Remember that when you're dealing with populations and biological systems (like human beings), you are always dealing with the normal, bell or Gauss curve. There will be the anti-socials on one side who will never get involved no matter how hard you try (but they're probably damned good at their job, which is why they're there). There will be the extroverts on the other end, who are great at socializing and networking and becoming the boss' pet and when you sit back and actually analyze the quality of the work they do, hmm, well... but they're such good friends and they probably already have some sort of "community" going.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Then there's everyone else somewhere along the middle.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Don't kid yourself into thinking you are going to change human nature. There will always be friction. There will always be office politics. There will always be resentment and jealousy. That is called humanity. However you will learn the needs of the people you are trying to help by listening to them, not by dreaming up some "method" on your own that you will force them to adopt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The best ideas are the one you have yourself .
These are the ones you remember .
These are the ones that charge you enough emotionally that you 're willing to act on them.No one likes being manipulated into a system , into a different way of doing things .
If you try to " impose " an " open , community environment " it will most likely backfire .
However if you approach the people you want to include , present the problem to them and LISTEN to their suggestions , you 're likely to get better results .
Do n't think of " one ideal method " for everyone because people are different - culturally , socially and in terms of personality .
Some people respond to some things , and others need other things .
Remember that when you 're dealing with populations and biological systems ( like human beings ) , you are always dealing with the normal , bell or Gauss curve .
There will be the anti-socials on one side who will never get involved no matter how hard you try ( but they 're probably damned good at their job , which is why they 're there ) .
There will be the extroverts on the other end , who are great at socializing and networking and becoming the boss ' pet and when you sit back and actually analyze the quality of the work they do , hmm , well... but they 're such good friends and they probably already have some sort of " community " going .
      Then there 's everyone else somewhere along the middle .
      Do n't kid yourself into thinking you are going to change human nature .
There will always be friction .
There will always be office politics .
There will always be resentment and jealousy .
That is called humanity .
However you will learn the needs of the people you are trying to help by listening to them , not by dreaming up some " method " on your own that you will force them to adopt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best ideas are the one you have yourself.
These are the ones you remember.
These are the ones that charge you enough emotionally that you're willing to act on them.No one likes being manipulated into a system, into a different way of doing things.
If you try to "impose" an "open, community environment" it will most likely backfire.
However if you approach the people you want to include, present the problem to them and LISTEN to their suggestions, you're likely to get better results.
Don't think of "one ideal method" for everyone because people are different - culturally, socially and in terms of personality.
Some people respond to some things, and others need other things.
Remember that when you're dealing with populations and biological systems (like human beings), you are always dealing with the normal, bell or Gauss curve.
There will be the anti-socials on one side who will never get involved no matter how hard you try (but they're probably damned good at their job, which is why they're there).
There will be the extroverts on the other end, who are great at socializing and networking and becoming the boss' pet and when you sit back and actually analyze the quality of the work they do, hmm, well... but they're such good friends and they probably already have some sort of "community" going.
      Then there's everyone else somewhere along the middle.
      Don't kid yourself into thinking you are going to change human nature.
There will always be friction.
There will always be office politics.
There will always be resentment and jealousy.
That is called humanity.
However you will learn the needs of the people you are trying to help by listening to them, not by dreaming up some "method" on your own that you will force them to adopt.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966480</id>
	<title>Don't install anything</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1264855020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Back before everybody at work had internet access we had newsgroups. Then I installed mediawiki, mainly for work, but you could use it for anything. Then somebody took a dislike to newsgroups and replaced it with phpbb (which I dislike) then about the same time external internet access was switched on and I pretty much stopped talking online with my co-workers.</p><p>But if you want to have a work community start an online community on an external system. Let people from work log on but don't associate it with the work place. Personally there are a few people I work with who I would choose to socialise with, but the rest I would rather have as little to do with as possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Back before everybody at work had internet access we had newsgroups .
Then I installed mediawiki , mainly for work , but you could use it for anything .
Then somebody took a dislike to newsgroups and replaced it with phpbb ( which I dislike ) then about the same time external internet access was switched on and I pretty much stopped talking online with my co-workers.But if you want to have a work community start an online community on an external system .
Let people from work log on but do n't associate it with the work place .
Personally there are a few people I work with who I would choose to socialise with , but the rest I would rather have as little to do with as possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back before everybody at work had internet access we had newsgroups.
Then I installed mediawiki, mainly for work, but you could use it for anything.
Then somebody took a dislike to newsgroups and replaced it with phpbb (which I dislike) then about the same time external internet access was switched on and I pretty much stopped talking online with my co-workers.But if you want to have a work community start an online community on an external system.
Let people from work log on but don't associate it with the work place.
Personally there are a few people I work with who I would choose to socialise with, but the rest I would rather have as little to do with as possible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966962</id>
	<title>how playing games over the network with eachother?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264859220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>how playing games over the network with each other?</p><p>or other fun stuff like poker (play for fun)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how playing games over the network with each other ? or other fun stuff like poker ( play for fun )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how playing games over the network with each other?or other fun stuff like poker (play for fun)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966916</id>
	<title>have you tried a gang bang?</title>
	<author>larry bagina</author>
	<datestamp>1264858740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>or maybe a bukake session?  It's a male bonding thing (totally not gay). Have a few drinks, share some pussy.  The only thing better than watching your own cock slide into a wet vag is watching another man's cock do the same.  Even a circle jerk can be a good bonding experience.</htmltext>
<tokenext>or maybe a bukake session ?
It 's a male bonding thing ( totally not gay ) .
Have a few drinks , share some pussy .
The only thing better than watching your own cock slide into a wet vag is watching another man 's cock do the same .
Even a circle jerk can be a good bonding experience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or maybe a bukake session?
It's a male bonding thing (totally not gay).
Have a few drinks, share some pussy.
The only thing better than watching your own cock slide into a wet vag is watching another man's cock do the same.
Even a circle jerk can be a good bonding experience.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967516</id>
	<title>Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but...</title>
	<author>No Lucifer</author>
	<datestamp>1264864680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right. Just elaborating further.... People generally kinda like other people. Assuming most of the employees are not asshats, friendships just form naturally. I was laid off from my firm of 5+ years last spring, and I still hang out a few times a week with friends from there. This works well across departments, too (I was in finance, my aforementioned friends are programmers and customer service reps). I think the best you can do is create an environment friendly to "banter" (i.e. not having a strict 30 min. rule for lunch, allowing some chit-chat in the cubes). This will go 100x further than a company-sponsored activity (which has a good chance of coming off as "corporate" anyway).</p><p>One thing that <i>will</i> alienate employees... management no longer "hanging out" with the peons. My former firm grew in almost the exact same way as yours. When we had 40 people, the partners would invite me and others to baseball games, would stop by my office to say hi, etc. At some point (probably 80-90 employees), they just said "screw it" and stayed in their offices all day and kept to each other. THAT pissed off people more than anything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right .
Just elaborating further.... People generally kinda like other people .
Assuming most of the employees are not asshats , friendships just form naturally .
I was laid off from my firm of 5 + years last spring , and I still hang out a few times a week with friends from there .
This works well across departments , too ( I was in finance , my aforementioned friends are programmers and customer service reps ) .
I think the best you can do is create an environment friendly to " banter " ( i.e .
not having a strict 30 min .
rule for lunch , allowing some chit-chat in the cubes ) .
This will go 100x further than a company-sponsored activity ( which has a good chance of coming off as " corporate " anyway ) .One thing that will alienate employees... management no longer " hanging out " with the peons .
My former firm grew in almost the exact same way as yours .
When we had 40 people , the partners would invite me and others to baseball games , would stop by my office to say hi , etc .
At some point ( probably 80-90 employees ) , they just said " screw it " and stayed in their offices all day and kept to each other .
THAT pissed off people more than anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right.
Just elaborating further.... People generally kinda like other people.
Assuming most of the employees are not asshats, friendships just form naturally.
I was laid off from my firm of 5+ years last spring, and I still hang out a few times a week with friends from there.
This works well across departments, too (I was in finance, my aforementioned friends are programmers and customer service reps).
I think the best you can do is create an environment friendly to "banter" (i.e.
not having a strict 30 min.
rule for lunch, allowing some chit-chat in the cubes).
This will go 100x further than a company-sponsored activity (which has a good chance of coming off as "corporate" anyway).One thing that will alienate employees... management no longer "hanging out" with the peons.
My former firm grew in almost the exact same way as yours.
When we had 40 people, the partners would invite me and others to baseball games, would stop by my office to say hi, etc.
At some point (probably 80-90 employees), they just said "screw it" and stayed in their offices all day and kept to each other.
THAT pissed off people more than anything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967638</id>
	<title>The Five Minute Hate</title>
	<author>Required Snark</author>
	<datestamp>1264866300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the best ways to bring workers together is to hate the boss. Nothing builds cohesion like having a common enemy. It helps if you have a Pointy Headed boss, but even modestly bad behavior on the part of an authority figure will do. Not only can you complain at work, but it will give you a common topic of conversation away from the office; you can go out for breaks of after work to talk trash.Try it, you'll like it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the best ways to bring workers together is to hate the boss .
Nothing builds cohesion like having a common enemy .
It helps if you have a Pointy Headed boss , but even modestly bad behavior on the part of an authority figure will do .
Not only can you complain at work , but it will give you a common topic of conversation away from the office ; you can go out for breaks of after work to talk trash.Try it , you 'll like it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the best ways to bring workers together is to hate the boss.
Nothing builds cohesion like having a common enemy.
It helps if you have a Pointy Headed boss, but even modestly bad behavior on the part of an authority figure will do.
Not only can you complain at work, but it will give you a common topic of conversation away from the office; you can go out for breaks of after work to talk trash.Try it, you'll like it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966666</id>
	<title>Local bar / casual eating establishment</title>
	<author>chrysrobyn</author>
	<datestamp>1264856460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your problem is that you don't see much between Facebook and a fully catered company outing.</p><p>Once a month, a volunteer from every department gets the department to go to a local bar or local eating establishment.  If they're lucky, the manager will cover half the costs, the grunts pick up the rest.  My manager orders a few pitchers of Shiner Bock and a few appetizer plates and asks for $5 from everybody.  Not everybody attends, and there's more than one person who doesn't drink alcohol, but they have O'Douls or whatever monstrosity, so they're placated.</p><p>Of course, the word "volunteer" is important.  Once one person does this in one department, and they get to talking, hopefully another department will pick up too.  If two departments complete a big project, then two departments can get together and maybe the other one will think it's a good idea and try to do it too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your problem is that you do n't see much between Facebook and a fully catered company outing.Once a month , a volunteer from every department gets the department to go to a local bar or local eating establishment .
If they 're lucky , the manager will cover half the costs , the grunts pick up the rest .
My manager orders a few pitchers of Shiner Bock and a few appetizer plates and asks for $ 5 from everybody .
Not everybody attends , and there 's more than one person who does n't drink alcohol , but they have O'Douls or whatever monstrosity , so they 're placated.Of course , the word " volunteer " is important .
Once one person does this in one department , and they get to talking , hopefully another department will pick up too .
If two departments complete a big project , then two departments can get together and maybe the other one will think it 's a good idea and try to do it too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your problem is that you don't see much between Facebook and a fully catered company outing.Once a month, a volunteer from every department gets the department to go to a local bar or local eating establishment.
If they're lucky, the manager will cover half the costs, the grunts pick up the rest.
My manager orders a few pitchers of Shiner Bock and a few appetizer plates and asks for $5 from everybody.
Not everybody attends, and there's more than one person who doesn't drink alcohol, but they have O'Douls or whatever monstrosity, so they're placated.Of course, the word "volunteer" is important.
Once one person does this in one department, and they get to talking, hopefully another department will pick up too.
If two departments complete a big project, then two departments can get together and maybe the other one will think it's a good idea and try to do it too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966694</id>
	<title>employee directory</title>
	<author>snsh</author>
	<datestamp>1264856580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If a company uses Active Directory and Exchange, I try to set them up with DirectoryUpdate to keep AD updated with names, phone#'s, org chart,  photos.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If a company uses Active Directory and Exchange , I try to set them up with DirectoryUpdate to keep AD updated with names , phone # 's , org chart , photos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If a company uses Active Directory and Exchange, I try to set them up with DirectoryUpdate to keep AD updated with names, phone#'s, org chart,  photos.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968252</id>
	<title>Re:IRC can be awesome...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264875660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>YES I have many fond memories of IRC, I can't wait to make more!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>YES I have many fond memories of IRC , I ca n't wait to make more !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YES I have many fond memories of IRC, I can't wait to make more!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967598</id>
	<title>You're not getting much good counsel, so far...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264865640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not a one of you apparently has any experience in creating a "culture" (I'd even challenge you to DEFINE "culture" in a productive and operational way).  Every<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.er seems to have an opinion, as if their experience is universal.  It is to laugh.<br> <br>

Creating a "Community" is a very worthy goal, and I've done it dozens of times with F500 businesses.  Creating an over-arching "Culture" is a bit more difficult, but I just did it for a 120-person not-for-profit here in California..<br> <br>

To start with, you need to have some grounding in communications and behavior...and I don't mean Psych101; I'm talking about someone at the level of a Ph.D.   You need to assess what's working, and what's not, and be able to distinguish the difference.  Then, you need to work with anyone and everyone to define what you'd LIKE to be in the future..<br> <br>

Are people there for the paycheck?  You don't have a chance.  Does management consider "People" a bother and excessively expensive?  No chance..<br> <br>

But, even in a dispirited organization, it is possible, despite what some of the people in here say.  It's not trivial, but the journey is most assuredly worthwhile..<br> <br>

If you'd like to discuss it further, I'd be happy...but not in this forum, populated with people who don't even understand the language of the art.  (And, yes, I'm a "recoverying geek"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... AND a "recovering shrink.")</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not a one of you apparently has any experience in creating a " culture " ( I 'd even challenge you to DEFINE " culture " in a productive and operational way ) .
Every /.er seems to have an opinion , as if their experience is universal .
It is to laugh .
Creating a " Community " is a very worthy goal , and I 've done it dozens of times with F500 businesses .
Creating an over-arching " Culture " is a bit more difficult , but I just did it for a 120-person not-for-profit here in California. . To start with , you need to have some grounding in communications and behavior...and I do n't mean Psych101 ; I 'm talking about someone at the level of a Ph.D. You need to assess what 's working , and what 's not , and be able to distinguish the difference .
Then , you need to work with anyone and everyone to define what you 'd LIKE to be in the future. . Are people there for the paycheck ?
You do n't have a chance .
Does management consider " People " a bother and excessively expensive ?
No chance. . But , even in a dispirited organization , it is possible , despite what some of the people in here say .
It 's not trivial , but the journey is most assuredly worthwhile. . If you 'd like to discuss it further , I 'd be happy...but not in this forum , populated with people who do n't even understand the language of the art .
( And , yes , I 'm a " recoverying geek " ... AND a " recovering shrink .
" )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not a one of you apparently has any experience in creating a "culture" (I'd even challenge you to DEFINE "culture" in a productive and operational way).
Every /.er seems to have an opinion, as if their experience is universal.
It is to laugh.
Creating a "Community" is a very worthy goal, and I've done it dozens of times with F500 businesses.
Creating an over-arching "Culture" is a bit more difficult, but I just did it for a 120-person not-for-profit here in California.. 

To start with, you need to have some grounding in communications and behavior...and I don't mean Psych101; I'm talking about someone at the level of a Ph.D.   You need to assess what's working, and what's not, and be able to distinguish the difference.
Then, you need to work with anyone and everyone to define what you'd LIKE to be in the future.. 

Are people there for the paycheck?
You don't have a chance.
Does management consider "People" a bother and excessively expensive?
No chance.. 

But, even in a dispirited organization, it is possible, despite what some of the people in here say.
It's not trivial, but the journey is most assuredly worthwhile.. 

If you'd like to discuss it further, I'd be happy...but not in this forum, populated with people who don't even understand the language of the art.
(And, yes, I'm a "recoverying geek" ... AND a "recovering shrink.
")</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30970186</id>
	<title>pizza parties and hooby groups</title>
	<author>Edgester</author>
	<datestamp>1264951680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get the company to frequently sponsor pizza parties or some other type of food event. People tend to connect while eating. Also start hobby-based groups. Start a running/cycling group, a golfing group, a knitting group, etc. The hobby groups are how people tend to connect outside of their departments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get the company to frequently sponsor pizza parties or some other type of food event .
People tend to connect while eating .
Also start hobby-based groups .
Start a running/cycling group , a golfing group , a knitting group , etc .
The hobby groups are how people tend to connect outside of their departments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get the company to frequently sponsor pizza parties or some other type of food event.
People tend to connect while eating.
Also start hobby-based groups.
Start a running/cycling group, a golfing group, a knitting group, etc.
The hobby groups are how people tend to connect outside of their departments.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30981156</id>
	<title>Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but...</title>
	<author>fuzzywig</author>
	<datestamp>1265039940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I realise the OP said that company wide meetings are a problem, but company wide activities are a good way to bond across departments.
Last year at work we were split into a bunch of different teams, (deliberately picked to mix up different departments), and throughout the year we had a succession of different games nights.  One night was a pub quiz, another was a Wii games and pizza night, etc.
The (essentially forced) mingling between people who perhaps wouldn't otherwise have chatted does seem to have brought people together a bit.

Of course the recent layoffs buggered that all up a bit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I realise the OP said that company wide meetings are a problem , but company wide activities are a good way to bond across departments .
Last year at work we were split into a bunch of different teams , ( deliberately picked to mix up different departments ) , and throughout the year we had a succession of different games nights .
One night was a pub quiz , another was a Wii games and pizza night , etc .
The ( essentially forced ) mingling between people who perhaps would n't otherwise have chatted does seem to have brought people together a bit .
Of course the recent layoffs buggered that all up a bit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I realise the OP said that company wide meetings are a problem, but company wide activities are a good way to bond across departments.
Last year at work we were split into a bunch of different teams, (deliberately picked to mix up different departments), and throughout the year we had a succession of different games nights.
One night was a pub quiz, another was a Wii games and pizza night, etc.
The (essentially forced) mingling between people who perhaps wouldn't otherwise have chatted does seem to have brought people together a bit.
Of course the recent layoffs buggered that all up a bit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966804</id>
	<title>Re:Job security</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264857780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yup, as a new employee, its definitely nicest to be welcomed by nobody, ignored by the whole lot, and generally avoided because the established crew doesn't believe anyone new will last long enough to make it worth their while. Certainly inspires the new comer to skip browsing the wanted ads, when no one at the company interacts with, let alone befriends them.</p><p>I've worked at places outside of IT/software development, and often people are friendly regardless. It really doesn't take much effort to be nice to someone. Perhaps its the cubicle environment. Or perhaps the non-social stereotype associated with computer-people is more accurate than we like to believe... (Or perhaps I keep having a poor experience with the software companies I work at...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup , as a new employee , its definitely nicest to be welcomed by nobody , ignored by the whole lot , and generally avoided because the established crew does n't believe anyone new will last long enough to make it worth their while .
Certainly inspires the new comer to skip browsing the wanted ads , when no one at the company interacts with , let alone befriends them.I 've worked at places outside of IT/software development , and often people are friendly regardless .
It really does n't take much effort to be nice to someone .
Perhaps its the cubicle environment .
Or perhaps the non-social stereotype associated with computer-people is more accurate than we like to believe... ( Or perhaps I keep having a poor experience with the software companies I work at... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup, as a new employee, its definitely nicest to be welcomed by nobody, ignored by the whole lot, and generally avoided because the established crew doesn't believe anyone new will last long enough to make it worth their while.
Certainly inspires the new comer to skip browsing the wanted ads, when no one at the company interacts with, let alone befriends them.I've worked at places outside of IT/software development, and often people are friendly regardless.
It really doesn't take much effort to be nice to someone.
Perhaps its the cubicle environment.
Or perhaps the non-social stereotype associated with computer-people is more accurate than we like to believe... (Or perhaps I keep having a poor experience with the software companies I work at...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967248</id>
	<title>Corporate IM</title>
	<author>Kr1ll1n</author>
	<datestamp>1264861560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ignite Realtime with Spark client......I have used it, deployed it, and currently enjoy it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ignite Realtime with Spark client......I have used it , deployed it , and currently enjoy it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ignite Realtime with Spark client......I have used it, deployed it, and currently enjoy it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967418</id>
	<title>Re:I've never been a fan of it.</title>
	<author>AuMatar</author>
	<datestamp>1264863240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you're missing out.  Its the community at work that decides whether a job is a soul sucking, burnout inducing hole or someplace you can actually enjoy going to every day.  Its not about office parties or other forced socialization, but being able to talk to your coworkers and enjoy it, being able to laugh at work together, etc.  If I had to work somewhere again where there was no friendship I think I'd get suicidal-  it just makes that huge a difference to actually enjoy 1/3 of your life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 're missing out .
Its the community at work that decides whether a job is a soul sucking , burnout inducing hole or someplace you can actually enjoy going to every day .
Its not about office parties or other forced socialization , but being able to talk to your coworkers and enjoy it , being able to laugh at work together , etc .
If I had to work somewhere again where there was no friendship I think I 'd get suicidal- it just makes that huge a difference to actually enjoy 1/3 of your life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you're missing out.
Its the community at work that decides whether a job is a soul sucking, burnout inducing hole or someplace you can actually enjoy going to every day.
Its not about office parties or other forced socialization, but being able to talk to your coworkers and enjoy it, being able to laugh at work together, etc.
If I had to work somewhere again where there was no friendship I think I'd get suicidal-  it just makes that huge a difference to actually enjoy 1/3 of your life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967000</id>
	<title>Re:Local bar / casual eating establishment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264859520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked for Tivoli shortly after their heyday, which is to say, just after IBM acquired them. We had beer bashes on Fridays (do those still happen?) and offsite company meetings once a year, which means I attended one (not counting the billion dollar bash with Lyle Lovett &mdash; YAWN)</p><p>None of these events did anything to bring people together. People hung out with people they know. I hear the ropes course actually works, though.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>The one thing I saw that worked was to include someone from another department in meetings they could get something from. For instance, I was on the team that included the inventory component, and I went to the inventory developers' meetings to bring our issues to them. Not only did this make me the best-informed support engineer (I do not use the term lightly &mdash; all but one of the people with this title had systems administration background when I worked there) but it also made me more familiar with people outside my department, and I was able to mix with a different crowd with minimal discomfort (on their part, most significantly.)</p><p>With all that said; mixing alcohol with company functions is <em>fucking over</em> in the US due to liability issues, at least for the forseeable future. Until we kill all the lawyers (sorry, NYCL) this situation will persist. This is part of why I'm in Panama right now, looking for cheap land; you don't have some ambulance chaser up your ass with a flashlight at every turn. (The other reason? Agua es vida.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked for Tivoli shortly after their heyday , which is to say , just after IBM acquired them .
We had beer bashes on Fridays ( do those still happen ?
) and offsite company meetings once a year , which means I attended one ( not counting the billion dollar bash with Lyle Lovett    YAWN ) None of these events did anything to bring people together .
People hung out with people they know .
I hear the ropes course actually works , though .
: ) The one thing I saw that worked was to include someone from another department in meetings they could get something from .
For instance , I was on the team that included the inventory component , and I went to the inventory developers ' meetings to bring our issues to them .
Not only did this make me the best-informed support engineer ( I do not use the term lightly    all but one of the people with this title had systems administration background when I worked there ) but it also made me more familiar with people outside my department , and I was able to mix with a different crowd with minimal discomfort ( on their part , most significantly .
) With all that said ; mixing alcohol with company functions is fucking over in the US due to liability issues , at least for the forseeable future .
Until we kill all the lawyers ( sorry , NYCL ) this situation will persist .
This is part of why I 'm in Panama right now , looking for cheap land ; you do n't have some ambulance chaser up your ass with a flashlight at every turn .
( The other reason ?
Agua es vida .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked for Tivoli shortly after their heyday, which is to say, just after IBM acquired them.
We had beer bashes on Fridays (do those still happen?
) and offsite company meetings once a year, which means I attended one (not counting the billion dollar bash with Lyle Lovett — YAWN)None of these events did anything to bring people together.
People hung out with people they know.
I hear the ropes course actually works, though.
:)The one thing I saw that worked was to include someone from another department in meetings they could get something from.
For instance, I was on the team that included the inventory component, and I went to the inventory developers' meetings to bring our issues to them.
Not only did this make me the best-informed support engineer (I do not use the term lightly — all but one of the people with this title had systems administration background when I worked there) but it also made me more familiar with people outside my department, and I was able to mix with a different crowd with minimal discomfort (on their part, most significantly.
)With all that said; mixing alcohol with company functions is fucking over in the US due to liability issues, at least for the forseeable future.
Until we kill all the lawyers (sorry, NYCL) this situation will persist.
This is part of why I'm in Panama right now, looking for cheap land; you don't have some ambulance chaser up your ass with a flashlight at every turn.
(The other reason?
Agua es vida.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966958</id>
	<title>Know the indivuals to create the community</title>
	<author>RobertLTux</author>
	<datestamp>1264859160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>drop down to the level where you have groups of say 30 people now ask whomever is in charge of that level to answer the following WITHOUT CONSULTING HR OR A SECRETARY<br>for each employee<br>1 what is this persons full name?<br>2 what does this person like to be called?<br>3 is this person married? To Whom?<br>4 numbers and names of children?<br>5 noteable skills of said children<br>6 schools attended by said children<br>7 noteable skills of the employee not related to the business<br>8 noteable skills of the employeee related to but not currently used by the business<br>9 this employee normally drives a \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_</p><p>if you can't answer some of those questions that would be your problem</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>drop down to the level where you have groups of say 30 people now ask whomever is in charge of that level to answer the following WITHOUT CONSULTING HR OR A SECRETARYfor each employee1 what is this persons full name ? 2 what does this person like to be called ? 3 is this person married ?
To Whom ? 4 numbers and names of children ? 5 noteable skills of said children6 schools attended by said children7 noteable skills of the employee not related to the business8 noteable skills of the employeee related to but not currently used by the business9 this employee normally drives a \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _if you ca n't answer some of those questions that would be your problem</tokentext>
<sentencetext>drop down to the level where you have groups of say 30 people now ask whomever is in charge of that level to answer the following WITHOUT CONSULTING HR OR A SECRETARYfor each employee1 what is this persons full name?2 what does this person like to be called?3 is this person married?
To Whom?4 numbers and names of children?5 noteable skills of said children6 schools attended by said children7 noteable skills of the employee not related to the business8 noteable skills of the employeee related to but not currently used by the business9 this employee normally drives a \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_if you can't answer some of those questions that would be your problem</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966808</id>
	<title>IRC can be awesome...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264857840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thing to do is help the people who aren't used to it get set up with it, and set up multiple channels, so people know how to set up smaller chat groups.  I am usually on about 8 channels on the work IRC server.  There's a couple of functional groups ("people who work on feature X"), a couple of corporate structure groups ("people who report to manager Y"), at least one physical group ("people in office Z"), and a few others for things like "no managers" or "only people who don't care whether you're PC".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing to do is help the people who are n't used to it get set up with it , and set up multiple channels , so people know how to set up smaller chat groups .
I am usually on about 8 channels on the work IRC server .
There 's a couple of functional groups ( " people who work on feature X " ) , a couple of corporate structure groups ( " people who report to manager Y " ) , at least one physical group ( " people in office Z " ) , and a few others for things like " no managers " or " only people who do n't care whether you 're PC " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing to do is help the people who aren't used to it get set up with it, and set up multiple channels, so people know how to set up smaller chat groups.
I am usually on about 8 channels on the work IRC server.
There's a couple of functional groups ("people who work on feature X"), a couple of corporate structure groups ("people who report to manager Y"), at least one physical group ("people in office Z"), and a few others for things like "no managers" or "only people who don't care whether you're PC".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30992950</id>
	<title>Coworkers are males</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265109480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>nuff said, little interest</htmltext>
<tokenext>nuff said , little interest</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nuff said, little interest</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967430</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas:</title>
	<author>Ethanol-fueled</author>
	<datestamp>1264863420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The attitude in my original post is not just that of Americans. If I were going to live in Mexico or China, or anywhere else for that matter, then I would seriously immerse myself with my host country's language and social/behavioral norms. It's common fucking courtesy.<br> <br>

People who immigrate to America have the luxury of not being expected to adapt to the social and behavioral norms of America. Americans such as myself who believe that they should are labeled fascists or nationalists. America is a big melting pot. Shouldn't immigrants make more effort to, you know, <i>melt</i> a little?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The attitude in my original post is not just that of Americans .
If I were going to live in Mexico or China , or anywhere else for that matter , then I would seriously immerse myself with my host country 's language and social/behavioral norms .
It 's common fucking courtesy .
People who immigrate to America have the luxury of not being expected to adapt to the social and behavioral norms of America .
Americans such as myself who believe that they should are labeled fascists or nationalists .
America is a big melting pot .
Should n't immigrants make more effort to , you know , melt a little ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The attitude in my original post is not just that of Americans.
If I were going to live in Mexico or China, or anywhere else for that matter, then I would seriously immerse myself with my host country's language and social/behavioral norms.
It's common fucking courtesy.
People who immigrate to America have the luxury of not being expected to adapt to the social and behavioral norms of America.
Americans such as myself who believe that they should are labeled fascists or nationalists.
America is a big melting pot.
Shouldn't immigrants make more effort to, you know, melt a little?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30976742</id>
	<title>Re:environment</title>
	<author>Machtyn</author>
	<datestamp>1264952820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I prefer the walls.  As a person who works with software all day, I don't need the distraction of others in the corner of my eye.  I listen to music and do my job.  Now, the music is low enough that I can still hear the person four cubicles down (if they're talking at phone talk volume, which is louder than normal)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I prefer the walls .
As a person who works with software all day , I do n't need the distraction of others in the corner of my eye .
I listen to music and do my job .
Now , the music is low enough that I can still hear the person four cubicles down ( if they 're talking at phone talk volume , which is louder than normal )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I prefer the walls.
As a person who works with software all day, I don't need the distraction of others in the corner of my eye.
I listen to music and do my job.
Now, the music is low enough that I can still hear the person four cubicles down (if they're talking at phone talk volume, which is louder than normal)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966934</id>
	<title>Mandatory fun day!</title>
	<author>oheso</author>
	<datestamp>1264858860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>... brought to you by the Department of Community Relations (formerly HR)</htmltext>
<tokenext>... brought to you by the Department of Community Relations ( formerly HR )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... brought to you by the Department of Community Relations (formerly HR)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966910</id>
	<title>Employee and Family Events</title>
	<author>ATestR</author>
	<datestamp>1264858740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My previous company made a practice of hosting several events a year...  one of which was a family inclusive event.  Totally optional, of course, but since at least 50\% of the employees did have family, participation was fairly high.  This even could be anything, although some years it got pretty nice (trip to local amusement park, etc.)</p><p>The remaining events were employee-centric... a BBQ in the parking lot, a afternoon at the bowling alley, and so forth.  This kind of activity provided a place outside of work to socialize with other employees.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My previous company made a practice of hosting several events a year... one of which was a family inclusive event .
Totally optional , of course , but since at least 50 \ % of the employees did have family , participation was fairly high .
This even could be anything , although some years it got pretty nice ( trip to local amusement park , etc .
) The remaining events were employee-centric... a BBQ in the parking lot , a afternoon at the bowling alley , and so forth .
This kind of activity provided a place outside of work to socialize with other employees .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My previous company made a practice of hosting several events a year...  one of which was a family inclusive event.
Totally optional, of course, but since at least 50\% of the employees did have family, participation was fairly high.
This even could be anything, although some years it got pretty nice (trip to local amusement park, etc.
)The remaining events were employee-centric... a BBQ in the parking lot, a afternoon at the bowling alley, and so forth.
This kind of activity provided a place outside of work to socialize with other employees.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968470</id>
	<title>Internal Social Networking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264879020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our work has internal messageboards, listservs, and a social networking site (http://elgg.org). We also have intramural sports leagues for softball, tennis, and basketball (I would really recommend softball as a cross-generational, laid back, fun activity). We have our own field, so we can drink beer on it. It's pretty awesome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our work has internal messageboards , listservs , and a social networking site ( http : //elgg.org ) .
We also have intramural sports leagues for softball , tennis , and basketball ( I would really recommend softball as a cross-generational , laid back , fun activity ) .
We have our own field , so we can drink beer on it .
It 's pretty awesome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our work has internal messageboards, listservs, and a social networking site (http://elgg.org).
We also have intramural sports leagues for softball, tennis, and basketball (I would really recommend softball as a cross-generational, laid back, fun activity).
We have our own field, so we can drink beer on it.
It's pretty awesome.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966580</id>
	<title>Leagues...</title>
	<author>tomhath</author>
	<datestamp>1264855800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Back in the "old days" employees organized golf, bowling, softball, or whatever leagues. Even something like a fantasy football league that only meets a few times a year will help people get to know each other.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Back in the " old days " employees organized golf , bowling , softball , or whatever leagues .
Even something like a fantasy football league that only meets a few times a year will help people get to know each other .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back in the "old days" employees organized golf, bowling, softball, or whatever leagues.
Even something like a fantasy football league that only meets a few times a year will help people get to know each other.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966960</id>
	<title>I know you're trying to be funny, but...</title>
	<author>raehl</author>
	<datestamp>1264859220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You actually hit this nail on the head.</p><p>The submitter entirely misses the point when he asks <i>"How does your company keep or build a community environment using technology?"</i></p><p>Answer:  YOU DON'T!</p><p>You build a community through SOCIAL ACTIVITY!  That means get rid of as much technology as possible.</p><p>There is no single answer here, as it's going to depend a lot on culture.  One thing that will definitely not work in Utah is to stock beer in the fridges and on the occasional Friday afternoon have managers pull their groups into a free-beer (or beverage of choice) activity.  Or twice a year blow a paid day and have everyone go somewhere as a company outing.</p><p>No matter what you do, the most important part is LEAVE THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE CUBE!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You actually hit this nail on the head.The submitter entirely misses the point when he asks " How does your company keep or build a community environment using technology ?
" Answer : YOU DO N'T ! You build a community through SOCIAL ACTIVITY !
That means get rid of as much technology as possible.There is no single answer here , as it 's going to depend a lot on culture .
One thing that will definitely not work in Utah is to stock beer in the fridges and on the occasional Friday afternoon have managers pull their groups into a free-beer ( or beverage of choice ) activity .
Or twice a year blow a paid day and have everyone go somewhere as a company outing.No matter what you do , the most important part is LEAVE THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE CUBE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You actually hit this nail on the head.The submitter entirely misses the point when he asks "How does your company keep or build a community environment using technology?
"Answer:  YOU DON'T!You build a community through SOCIAL ACTIVITY!
That means get rid of as much technology as possible.There is no single answer here, as it's going to depend a lot on culture.
One thing that will definitely not work in Utah is to stock beer in the fridges and on the occasional Friday afternoon have managers pull their groups into a free-beer (or beverage of choice) activity.
Or twice a year blow a paid day and have everyone go somewhere as a company outing.No matter what you do, the most important part is LEAVE THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE CUBE!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967592</id>
	<title>Re:Its simple,</title>
	<author>Jah-Wren Ryel</author>
	<datestamp>1264865520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Its simple,get a water cooler</p></div><p>Even better - hold friday afternoon beer parties.  And the occasional company BBQ, and when times are good - take the company on a cruise.  In fact you may not even need to wait for good times, cruises are dirt cheap now.  Of course don't even think of charging the employees for these activities - that will build commuinity too - a community united in thinking just how stingy the company is.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its simple,get a water coolerEven better - hold friday afternoon beer parties .
And the occasional company BBQ , and when times are good - take the company on a cruise .
In fact you may not even need to wait for good times , cruises are dirt cheap now .
Of course do n't even think of charging the employees for these activities - that will build commuinity too - a community united in thinking just how stingy the company is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its simple,get a water coolerEven better - hold friday afternoon beer parties.
And the occasional company BBQ, and when times are good - take the company on a cruise.
In fact you may not even need to wait for good times, cruises are dirt cheap now.
Of course don't even think of charging the employees for these activities - that will build commuinity too - a community united in thinking just how stingy the company is.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966466</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30985220</id>
	<title>Yammer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265056320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We find that Yammer meets all our "light" collaboration needs.  You can use it all you want for free.  They charge to get access to the 'enterprise" features.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We find that Yammer meets all our " light " collaboration needs .
You can use it all you want for free .
They charge to get access to the 'enterprise " features .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We find that Yammer meets all our "light" collaboration needs.
You can use it all you want for free.
They charge to get access to the 'enterprise" features.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966736</id>
	<title>Wrong tool for the job</title>
	<author>Bogtha</author>
	<datestamp>1264857060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>E-mail is the main source of communication, but can't it be painful sometimes? Everyone on the IT side receives alerts about tickets and other automated checks of systems. On any given day I generally receive 100+ alert messages. When we're not reading our filtered alerts into specified folders, general discussion about projects and fixing issues usually is anywhere from 20-60 messages a day. Quite honestly, I'm sick of e-mail and don't wish to get any more of it.</i> </p></div> </blockquote><p>
There problem here is that you are using the same tool for two very different tasks - conversations and notifications.  These are different tasks that should fit into your workflow in different ways.  I find email much more pleasant if I use email for talking to people, and offload as many notifications as possible into Atom/RSS feeds.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>E-mail is the main source of communication , but ca n't it be painful sometimes ?
Everyone on the IT side receives alerts about tickets and other automated checks of systems .
On any given day I generally receive 100 + alert messages .
When we 're not reading our filtered alerts into specified folders , general discussion about projects and fixing issues usually is anywhere from 20-60 messages a day .
Quite honestly , I 'm sick of e-mail and do n't wish to get any more of it .
There problem here is that you are using the same tool for two very different tasks - conversations and notifications .
These are different tasks that should fit into your workflow in different ways .
I find email much more pleasant if I use email for talking to people , and offload as many notifications as possible into Atom/RSS feeds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> E-mail is the main source of communication, but can't it be painful sometimes?
Everyone on the IT side receives alerts about tickets and other automated checks of systems.
On any given day I generally receive 100+ alert messages.
When we're not reading our filtered alerts into specified folders, general discussion about projects and fixing issues usually is anywhere from 20-60 messages a day.
Quite honestly, I'm sick of e-mail and don't wish to get any more of it.
There problem here is that you are using the same tool for two very different tasks - conversations and notifications.
These are different tasks that should fit into your workflow in different ways.
I find email much more pleasant if I use email for talking to people, and offload as many notifications as possible into Atom/RSS feeds.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30969840</id>
	<title>You will socialize, and you will enjoy it!!!!</title>
	<author>golfnomad</author>
	<datestamp>1264947600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree with Older Guy....I really don't want to be *forced* to socialize with many of my co-workers.

I am a techie, and my free time is spent with my Family, they are the reason I work (well, that and boredom), and my friends. If I do socialize with any of my co-workers, it will be MY choice of who and when.

Activities like bowling, golf, etc are good, but to just generally *have* to sit around an chat....no thanks.

And don't even get me started on *team-building* crap......</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with Older Guy....I really do n't want to be * forced * to socialize with many of my co-workers .
I am a techie , and my free time is spent with my Family , they are the reason I work ( well , that and boredom ) , and my friends .
If I do socialize with any of my co-workers , it will be MY choice of who and when .
Activities like bowling , golf , etc are good , but to just generally * have * to sit around an chat....no thanks .
And do n't even get me started on * team-building * crap..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with Older Guy....I really don't want to be *forced* to socialize with many of my co-workers.
I am a techie, and my free time is spent with my Family, they are the reason I work (well, that and boredom), and my friends.
If I do socialize with any of my co-workers, it will be MY choice of who and when.
Activities like bowling, golf, etc are good, but to just generally *have* to sit around an chat....no thanks.
And don't even get me started on *team-building* crap......</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966542</id>
	<title>Internal "rotations"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264855440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bring the new hires in and then rotate them through each department/group in the company.  Give them a day at each location to see what goes on there and meet/interact/tag along behind the group.  It might take a week or two to get them through the entire company, but you will end up on a first name basis with most people and have a better appreciation for what their job entails.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bring the new hires in and then rotate them through each department/group in the company .
Give them a day at each location to see what goes on there and meet/interact/tag along behind the group .
It might take a week or two to get them through the entire company , but you will end up on a first name basis with most people and have a better appreciation for what their job entails .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bring the new hires in and then rotate them through each department/group in the company.
Give them a day at each location to see what goes on there and meet/interact/tag along behind the group.
It might take a week or two to get them through the entire company, but you will end up on a first name basis with most people and have a better appreciation for what their job entails.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966604</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas:</title>
	<author>buanzo</author>
	<datestamp>1264855980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Troll. And fascist.

BTW, Latinos are in the West.

And, FWIW, "America" is an entire continent, not just the United States *OF* America...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Troll .
And fascist .
BTW , Latinos are in the West .
And , FWIW , " America " is an entire continent , not just the United States * OF * America.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Troll.
And fascist.
BTW, Latinos are in the West.
And, FWIW, "America" is an entire continent, not just the United States *OF* America...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966422</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967182</id>
	<title>Lunch</title>
	<author>kenh</author>
	<datestamp>1264860960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At a previous employer they had a few lunch-centric policies that I think worked out well.</p><p>The first was you had to have lunch with one of the two founders to get an offer - this had the added benefit that the owners knew you, and you knew (atleast one of) them, you'd feel connected instantly.</p><p>The second was that once you started working, your coworkers were encouraged to take you out to lunch on the companies dime. It only lasted for one week, but during that week you would be the most desirable lunch companion in the company, and you're bound to make a few friends that first week.</p><p>Lunch isn't the answer for everything, but it worked in the company I used to work at (I joined as employee 53, stayed with them past employee number 200, and the policy remained in-tact those ther/four years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At a previous employer they had a few lunch-centric policies that I think worked out well.The first was you had to have lunch with one of the two founders to get an offer - this had the added benefit that the owners knew you , and you knew ( atleast one of ) them , you 'd feel connected instantly.The second was that once you started working , your coworkers were encouraged to take you out to lunch on the companies dime .
It only lasted for one week , but during that week you would be the most desirable lunch companion in the company , and you 're bound to make a few friends that first week.Lunch is n't the answer for everything , but it worked in the company I used to work at ( I joined as employee 53 , stayed with them past employee number 200 , and the policy remained in-tact those ther/four years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At a previous employer they had a few lunch-centric policies that I think worked out well.The first was you had to have lunch with one of the two founders to get an offer - this had the added benefit that the owners knew you, and you knew (atleast one of) them, you'd feel connected instantly.The second was that once you started working, your coworkers were encouraged to take you out to lunch on the companies dime.
It only lasted for one week, but during that week you would be the most desirable lunch companion in the company, and you're bound to make a few friends that first week.Lunch isn't the answer for everything, but it worked in the company I used to work at (I joined as employee 53, stayed with them past employee number 200, and the policy remained in-tact those ther/four years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967494</id>
	<title>Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264864380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree with leaving the technology out of it, for the most part.</p><p>At my company we have an annual (last year we did 2 though) company holiday for 4 days: diving, sailing, drinking.<br>Every Friday drinks on the boss at our local.</p><p>However, internally we run XMPP IM and a wiki for collaboration outside of email which also helps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with leaving the technology out of it , for the most part.At my company we have an annual ( last year we did 2 though ) company holiday for 4 days : diving , sailing , drinking.Every Friday drinks on the boss at our local.However , internally we run XMPP IM and a wiki for collaboration outside of email which also helps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with leaving the technology out of it, for the most part.At my company we have an annual (last year we did 2 though) company holiday for 4 days: diving, sailing, drinking.Every Friday drinks on the boss at our local.However, internally we run XMPP IM and a wiki for collaboration outside of email which also helps.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966960</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966422</id>
	<title>Ideas:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264854420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>One thing I cannot stress enough is to hire culturally <i>Americanized</i> workers. Younger, um, "ethnic" workers are more likely to be Americanized if they have served in the American military or are <i>at least</i> second-generation immigrants. The clarity and fluency of their English is a good indicator of their desirability.<br> <br>

Do <i>not</i> hire first-generation Asian, African, or Latino immigrants unless they were already Westernized elsewhere. First-generation immigrants' cultural traits are generally undesirable. They are impossible to communicate with and that alone reduces overall productivity. They are very xenophobic and they will congregate into their respective groups and, in their native language, will badmouth and gossip* about everybody who is not like they are. <br> <br>

There is a lot of cultural B.S. involved. For example - at a very F.O.B.-dominated company I worked at, the boss was very short. Being short is very undesirable for a male in that boss' culture, so all of the caucasians <i>sat on the floor</i> so as not to tower over him and make things awkward. Fuck that, man. In the modern American workplace the boss would make jokes about his shortness and everybody would respect him for it.<br> <br>

Now that that's out of the way, do not feel upset if everybody dosen't want to be bestest buddies with each other. Many people just aren't social or they compartmentalize their work and play behavior. They're there to <i>work</i>, not to gossip about Donna's rack at the water cooler. In my experience, company meetings are only two things - free food and being forced to hear the latest rah-rah bullshit propaganda from leadership who would lay me off if cutting one more head adds a few hundred to their bonus.<br> <br>


*<i> Many of you will say I just did that. That shit's okay when venting anonymously online. It's <i>not</i> okay in the modern American workplace.</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing I can not stress enough is to hire culturally Americanized workers .
Younger , um , " ethnic " workers are more likely to be Americanized if they have served in the American military or are at least second-generation immigrants .
The clarity and fluency of their English is a good indicator of their desirability .
Do not hire first-generation Asian , African , or Latino immigrants unless they were already Westernized elsewhere .
First-generation immigrants ' cultural traits are generally undesirable .
They are impossible to communicate with and that alone reduces overall productivity .
They are very xenophobic and they will congregate into their respective groups and , in their native language , will badmouth and gossip * about everybody who is not like they are .
There is a lot of cultural B.S .
involved. For example - at a very F.O.B.-dominated company I worked at , the boss was very short .
Being short is very undesirable for a male in that boss ' culture , so all of the caucasians sat on the floor so as not to tower over him and make things awkward .
Fuck that , man .
In the modern American workplace the boss would make jokes about his shortness and everybody would respect him for it .
Now that that 's out of the way , do not feel upset if everybody dose n't want to be bestest buddies with each other .
Many people just are n't social or they compartmentalize their work and play behavior .
They 're there to work , not to gossip about Donna 's rack at the water cooler .
In my experience , company meetings are only two things - free food and being forced to hear the latest rah-rah bullshit propaganda from leadership who would lay me off if cutting one more head adds a few hundred to their bonus .
* Many of you will say I just did that .
That shit 's okay when venting anonymously online .
It 's not okay in the modern American workplace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing I cannot stress enough is to hire culturally Americanized workers.
Younger, um, "ethnic" workers are more likely to be Americanized if they have served in the American military or are at least second-generation immigrants.
The clarity and fluency of their English is a good indicator of their desirability.
Do not hire first-generation Asian, African, or Latino immigrants unless they were already Westernized elsewhere.
First-generation immigrants' cultural traits are generally undesirable.
They are impossible to communicate with and that alone reduces overall productivity.
They are very xenophobic and they will congregate into their respective groups and, in their native language, will badmouth and gossip* about everybody who is not like they are.
There is a lot of cultural B.S.
involved. For example - at a very F.O.B.-dominated company I worked at, the boss was very short.
Being short is very undesirable for a male in that boss' culture, so all of the caucasians sat on the floor so as not to tower over him and make things awkward.
Fuck that, man.
In the modern American workplace the boss would make jokes about his shortness and everybody would respect him for it.
Now that that's out of the way, do not feel upset if everybody dosen't want to be bestest buddies with each other.
Many people just aren't social or they compartmentalize their work and play behavior.
They're there to work, not to gossip about Donna's rack at the water cooler.
In my experience, company meetings are only two things - free food and being forced to hear the latest rah-rah bullshit propaganda from leadership who would lay me off if cutting one more head adds a few hundred to their bonus.
* Many of you will say I just did that.
That shit's okay when venting anonymously online.
It's not okay in the modern American workplace.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966618</id>
	<title>Giant Hot Tub</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264856160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In Santa Cruz, it is customary for employees at high tech companies to have a few beers at a local pub after work on Friday, grab some dinner and then head to the CEOs or VPs house for naked hot tubbing. It's a great way to get to know each other and and no one has anything to hide. SCO even had their own hot tub in the office court yard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Santa Cruz , it is customary for employees at high tech companies to have a few beers at a local pub after work on Friday , grab some dinner and then head to the CEOs or VPs house for naked hot tubbing .
It 's a great way to get to know each other and and no one has anything to hide .
SCO even had their own hot tub in the office court yard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Santa Cruz, it is customary for employees at high tech companies to have a few beers at a local pub after work on Friday, grab some dinner and then head to the CEOs or VPs house for naked hot tubbing.
It's a great way to get to know each other and and no one has anything to hide.
SCO even had their own hot tub in the office court yard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967284</id>
	<title>My 42 cents</title>
	<author>ironicsky</author>
	<datestamp>1264861860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the technology side, get SharePoint Server with Office Communication Server. Both integrate with Outlook &amp; Exchange and provide ample collaboration and chat capabilities and would give you the internal social networking feel you want, if you design it too.</p><p>On the real world, here is what some companies I have worked for have done.<br>-At work "olympics". Find some dumb tasks or events and have competitions for them. It may seem dumb, but people have fun.<br>-Regular company outings. - Softball tournements, bowling, paintball, amusement parks, etc<br>-At the company Christmas party, arrange people's seating so they are sitting at a table with people they do not work with so they are forced to mingle<br>-Have beer day. At one company I worked at (about 50 people) we'd have beer friday's where we'd all chip in for a couple cases of beer and sit around for the last hour of the day relaxing. It was mandatory to stay. Either you stayed and worked, or you hung out with everyone else, you didn't have to drink.<br>-Have pot lucks... Everyone brings something and everyone eats.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the technology side , get SharePoint Server with Office Communication Server .
Both integrate with Outlook &amp; Exchange and provide ample collaboration and chat capabilities and would give you the internal social networking feel you want , if you design it too.On the real world , here is what some companies I have worked for have done.-At work " olympics " .
Find some dumb tasks or events and have competitions for them .
It may seem dumb , but people have fun.-Regular company outings .
- Softball tournements , bowling , paintball , amusement parks , etc-At the company Christmas party , arrange people 's seating so they are sitting at a table with people they do not work with so they are forced to mingle-Have beer day .
At one company I worked at ( about 50 people ) we 'd have beer friday 's where we 'd all chip in for a couple cases of beer and sit around for the last hour of the day relaxing .
It was mandatory to stay .
Either you stayed and worked , or you hung out with everyone else , you did n't have to drink.-Have pot lucks... Everyone brings something and everyone eats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the technology side, get SharePoint Server with Office Communication Server.
Both integrate with Outlook &amp; Exchange and provide ample collaboration and chat capabilities and would give you the internal social networking feel you want, if you design it too.On the real world, here is what some companies I have worked for have done.-At work "olympics".
Find some dumb tasks or events and have competitions for them.
It may seem dumb, but people have fun.-Regular company outings.
- Softball tournements, bowling, paintball, amusement parks, etc-At the company Christmas party, arrange people's seating so they are sitting at a table with people they do not work with so they are forced to mingle-Have beer day.
At one company I worked at (about 50 people) we'd have beer friday's where we'd all chip in for a couple cases of beer and sit around for the last hour of the day relaxing.
It was mandatory to stay.
Either you stayed and worked, or you hung out with everyone else, you didn't have to drink.-Have pot lucks... Everyone brings something and everyone eats.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968974</id>
	<title>Two Words</title>
	<author>Xeleema</author>
	<datestamp>1264932420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Strip Club!
Anyone too hung up on "Political Correctness" won't go.  Weeds out the problem people pretty fast.
Bonus points if you catch a secretary moonlighting!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Strip Club !
Anyone too hung up on " Political Correctness " wo n't go .
Weeds out the problem people pretty fast .
Bonus points if you catch a secretary moonlighting !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strip Club!
Anyone too hung up on "Political Correctness" won't go.
Weeds out the problem people pretty fast.
Bonus points if you catch a secretary moonlighting!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30978034</id>
	<title>No Asshole Rule</title>
	<author>seebs</author>
	<datestamp>1264967220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Robert Sutton, "The No Asshole Rule".</p><p>I just picked it up today -- possibly someone in this discussion mentioned it, but anyway, it's awesome.  Read it and make you managers read it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Robert Sutton , " The No Asshole Rule " .I just picked it up today -- possibly someone in this discussion mentioned it , but anyway , it 's awesome .
Read it and make you managers read it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Robert Sutton, "The No Asshole Rule".I just picked it up today -- possibly someone in this discussion mentioned it, but anyway, it's awesome.
Read it and make you managers read it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967474</id>
	<title>Continual Fun</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1264864140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>        If you can get people involved in picnics, contests, sports teams, perhaps a company band, you will have a close community with little turnover. It is important that much of these activities take place after work or on weekends so that social life and work become more welded together. For example with 100 employees you will be having birthdays every week. Make that cake ritual part of the Saturday ball game and announce the birthday will be held at the ballgame on the actual birthday. That way you save distraction at work and still honour the employee and also steer him to attend the company ball game. Also be sure not to discourage employee dating as that also can bind people to a company.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can get people involved in picnics , contests , sports teams , perhaps a company band , you will have a close community with little turnover .
It is important that much of these activities take place after work or on weekends so that social life and work become more welded together .
For example with 100 employees you will be having birthdays every week .
Make that cake ritual part of the Saturday ball game and announce the birthday will be held at the ballgame on the actual birthday .
That way you save distraction at work and still honour the employee and also steer him to attend the company ball game .
Also be sure not to discourage employee dating as that also can bind people to a company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>        If you can get people involved in picnics, contests, sports teams, perhaps a company band, you will have a close community with little turnover.
It is important that much of these activities take place after work or on weekends so that social life and work become more welded together.
For example with 100 employees you will be having birthdays every week.
Make that cake ritual part of the Saturday ball game and announce the birthday will be held at the ballgame on the actual birthday.
That way you save distraction at work and still honour the employee and also steer him to attend the company ball game.
Also be sure not to discourage employee dating as that also can bind people to a company.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966874</id>
	<title>Re:A very high technology idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264858440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yup, seen a free coffee room at many good small companies.  Very useful.</p><p>On a more serious note, the company could use Slashdot to discuss ideas, just as he's done.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup , seen a free coffee room at many good small companies .
Very useful.On a more serious note , the company could use Slashdot to discuss ideas , just as he 's done .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup, seen a free coffee room at many good small companies.
Very useful.On a more serious note, the company could use Slashdot to discuss ideas, just as he's done.
;-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967820</id>
	<title>Re:A very high technology idea</title>
	<author>KORfan</author>
	<datestamp>1264869000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had great success by purchasing a copy of Fluxx for said break room.  We play at lunch.  Sometimes lunch runs long, but the boss hasn't complained because the improvement in morale and team building has been so significant.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had great success by purchasing a copy of Fluxx for said break room .
We play at lunch .
Sometimes lunch runs long , but the boss has n't complained because the improvement in morale and team building has been so significant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had great success by purchasing a copy of Fluxx for said break room.
We play at lunch.
Sometimes lunch runs long, but the boss hasn't complained because the improvement in morale and team building has been so significant.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30969318</id>
	<title>Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264940400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>You build a community through SOCIAL ACTIVITY! That means get rid of as much technology as possible[...]Or twice a year blow a paid day and have everyone go somewhere as a company outing</i><br>Seems to be great in your average small business or school environment, but falls apart when you are trying to man a 24/7 callcenter. I worked at one as a peon in New York. For goodbye parties, top brass visits, semi-emergencies, and even building mandated fire drills we had to stay put at our cubes to make sure issues weren't going unanswered --annoying since our division was one of the few getting past 5 to 8PM or working weekends. Nobody was allowed out during fire drill time, which is sad; a priority reversal since a farewell party did allow us to gather for 10 to 15 minutes, but we must rotate. We never had much of an after-work life. Employees didn't organize their own little anime or movie theater nights or shopping sprees either, which I do miss from a prior lower-paying job.</p><p>Actually, there was sort of a drinking group with one of the managers. For those of us who didn't want to kiss up, there wasn't any half-day or barbecue or other activity that was phone-free, even if the financial market was closed. Attending the company Christmas party for the night shift was encouraged, but you were let out an hour early and in small waves, unless your shift ended before the party. Kinda hurt the community spirit, which was pretty non-existing at least at my state's branches. Another reason not to work in Finance and finance-related third party companies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You build a community through SOCIAL ACTIVITY !
That means get rid of as much technology as possible [ ... ] Or twice a year blow a paid day and have everyone go somewhere as a company outingSeems to be great in your average small business or school environment , but falls apart when you are trying to man a 24/7 callcenter .
I worked at one as a peon in New York .
For goodbye parties , top brass visits , semi-emergencies , and even building mandated fire drills we had to stay put at our cubes to make sure issues were n't going unanswered --annoying since our division was one of the few getting past 5 to 8PM or working weekends .
Nobody was allowed out during fire drill time , which is sad ; a priority reversal since a farewell party did allow us to gather for 10 to 15 minutes , but we must rotate .
We never had much of an after-work life .
Employees did n't organize their own little anime or movie theater nights or shopping sprees either , which I do miss from a prior lower-paying job.Actually , there was sort of a drinking group with one of the managers .
For those of us who did n't want to kiss up , there was n't any half-day or barbecue or other activity that was phone-free , even if the financial market was closed .
Attending the company Christmas party for the night shift was encouraged , but you were let out an hour early and in small waves , unless your shift ended before the party .
Kinda hurt the community spirit , which was pretty non-existing at least at my state 's branches .
Another reason not to work in Finance and finance-related third party companies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You build a community through SOCIAL ACTIVITY!
That means get rid of as much technology as possible[...]Or twice a year blow a paid day and have everyone go somewhere as a company outingSeems to be great in your average small business or school environment, but falls apart when you are trying to man a 24/7 callcenter.
I worked at one as a peon in New York.
For goodbye parties, top brass visits, semi-emergencies, and even building mandated fire drills we had to stay put at our cubes to make sure issues weren't going unanswered --annoying since our division was one of the few getting past 5 to 8PM or working weekends.
Nobody was allowed out during fire drill time, which is sad; a priority reversal since a farewell party did allow us to gather for 10 to 15 minutes, but we must rotate.
We never had much of an after-work life.
Employees didn't organize their own little anime or movie theater nights or shopping sprees either, which I do miss from a prior lower-paying job.Actually, there was sort of a drinking group with one of the managers.
For those of us who didn't want to kiss up, there wasn't any half-day or barbecue or other activity that was phone-free, even if the financial market was closed.
Attending the company Christmas party for the night shift was encouraged, but you were let out an hour early and in small waves, unless your shift ended before the party.
Kinda hurt the community spirit, which was pretty non-existing at least at my state's branches.
Another reason not to work in Finance and finance-related third party companies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30971644</id>
	<title>Re:environment</title>
	<author>Raven\_Stark</author>
	<datestamp>1264963920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree that environment is very important. If the environment would cause a bad trip, working in it will wear on you. I work in an big house that has the feel of a home. Teams more-or-less occupy the same rooms. It makes communication efficient between team members and does foster a sense of community and camaraderie.</p><p>On the other hand, too much talking can get really annoying when you're coding.  So I wish there were a room dedicated to long conversations--some couches, food, and computers. Personal phone calls and meetings with clients should also take place there.</p><p>Also because intense coding uses a lot of working memory which is hard to remember between interruptions, there need to be some rules of etiquette about when it is okay to interrupt. There are few things worse than forgetting the details of a complicated solution because someone interrupted the thought to ask you about an entirely different code module.</p><p>I also like well behaved pets in the workplace. Several times it has helped me to talk problems out with someone's dog, and they also help reduce stress.</p><p>Usually we all get a say in hiring new employees. That seems to weed out the ones who would ruin the sense of community.</p><p>I think the same principles could be applied to a larger company by applying them to a team instead of to the whole company.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree that environment is very important .
If the environment would cause a bad trip , working in it will wear on you .
I work in an big house that has the feel of a home .
Teams more-or-less occupy the same rooms .
It makes communication efficient between team members and does foster a sense of community and camaraderie.On the other hand , too much talking can get really annoying when you 're coding .
So I wish there were a room dedicated to long conversations--some couches , food , and computers .
Personal phone calls and meetings with clients should also take place there.Also because intense coding uses a lot of working memory which is hard to remember between interruptions , there need to be some rules of etiquette about when it is okay to interrupt .
There are few things worse than forgetting the details of a complicated solution because someone interrupted the thought to ask you about an entirely different code module.I also like well behaved pets in the workplace .
Several times it has helped me to talk problems out with someone 's dog , and they also help reduce stress.Usually we all get a say in hiring new employees .
That seems to weed out the ones who would ruin the sense of community.I think the same principles could be applied to a larger company by applying them to a team instead of to the whole company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree that environment is very important.
If the environment would cause a bad trip, working in it will wear on you.
I work in an big house that has the feel of a home.
Teams more-or-less occupy the same rooms.
It makes communication efficient between team members and does foster a sense of community and camaraderie.On the other hand, too much talking can get really annoying when you're coding.
So I wish there were a room dedicated to long conversations--some couches, food, and computers.
Personal phone calls and meetings with clients should also take place there.Also because intense coding uses a lot of working memory which is hard to remember between interruptions, there need to be some rules of etiquette about when it is okay to interrupt.
There are few things worse than forgetting the details of a complicated solution because someone interrupted the thought to ask you about an entirely different code module.I also like well behaved pets in the workplace.
Several times it has helped me to talk problems out with someone's dog, and they also help reduce stress.Usually we all get a say in hiring new employees.
That seems to weed out the ones who would ruin the sense of community.I think the same principles could be applied to a larger company by applying them to a team instead of to the whole company.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966982</id>
	<title>Re:Facebook for enterprise</title>
	<author>ingulsrud</author>
	<datestamp>1264859340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.yammer.com/" title="yammer.com" rel="nofollow">Yammer</a> [yammer.com] is trivially easy to try out. It has become a key source of information and strengthens community at my job.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yammer [ yammer.com ] is trivially easy to try out .
It has become a key source of information and strengthens community at my job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yammer [yammer.com] is trivially easy to try out.
It has become a key source of information and strengthens community at my job.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968048</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264872120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>People who immigrate to America have the luxury of not being expected to adapt to the social and behavioral norms of America. Americans such as myself who believe that they should are labeled fascists or nationalists.</p></div><p>When I was a kid in school, I used to wonder how any people could elect fascists and nationalists to power. Well, now that I've lived for a number of decades, I understand. When the legitimate political parties start kicking the people whose interests they're supposed to be looking out for in the nuts in pursuit of abstract concepts like "diversity" and "multi-culturalism", and the fascists and the nationalists are the only ones showing any interest in looking out for, you know, the citizens whose country it is, then people start voting for fascists and nationalists.</p><p>So are you a fascist or a nationalist? I wouldn't blame you if you were! Don't worry - if things keep going like they are, you'll have plenty of company soon.</p><p>You might be interested in reading <a href="http://greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf" title="greatwar.nl" rel="nofollow">this book.</a> [greatwar.nl] The way the author describes the situation in 1920's Austria sounds remarkably similar to the situation in America in 2010.</p><p>If people are so bloody worried about fascists and nationalists, maybe they ought to do something about addressing the concerns of typical, decent citizens besides calling them racists and fascists for expressing legitimate concerns. Because when the fascists and nationalists are the only ones paying any attention, guess who's going to start getting elected?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People who immigrate to America have the luxury of not being expected to adapt to the social and behavioral norms of America .
Americans such as myself who believe that they should are labeled fascists or nationalists.When I was a kid in school , I used to wonder how any people could elect fascists and nationalists to power .
Well , now that I 've lived for a number of decades , I understand .
When the legitimate political parties start kicking the people whose interests they 're supposed to be looking out for in the nuts in pursuit of abstract concepts like " diversity " and " multi-culturalism " , and the fascists and the nationalists are the only ones showing any interest in looking out for , you know , the citizens whose country it is , then people start voting for fascists and nationalists.So are you a fascist or a nationalist ?
I would n't blame you if you were !
Do n't worry - if things keep going like they are , you 'll have plenty of company soon.You might be interested in reading this book .
[ greatwar.nl ] The way the author describes the situation in 1920 's Austria sounds remarkably similar to the situation in America in 2010.If people are so bloody worried about fascists and nationalists , maybe they ought to do something about addressing the concerns of typical , decent citizens besides calling them racists and fascists for expressing legitimate concerns .
Because when the fascists and nationalists are the only ones paying any attention , guess who 's going to start getting elected ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who immigrate to America have the luxury of not being expected to adapt to the social and behavioral norms of America.
Americans such as myself who believe that they should are labeled fascists or nationalists.When I was a kid in school, I used to wonder how any people could elect fascists and nationalists to power.
Well, now that I've lived for a number of decades, I understand.
When the legitimate political parties start kicking the people whose interests they're supposed to be looking out for in the nuts in pursuit of abstract concepts like "diversity" and "multi-culturalism", and the fascists and the nationalists are the only ones showing any interest in looking out for, you know, the citizens whose country it is, then people start voting for fascists and nationalists.So are you a fascist or a nationalist?
I wouldn't blame you if you were!
Don't worry - if things keep going like they are, you'll have plenty of company soon.You might be interested in reading this book.
[greatwar.nl] The way the author describes the situation in 1920's Austria sounds remarkably similar to the situation in America in 2010.If people are so bloody worried about fascists and nationalists, maybe they ought to do something about addressing the concerns of typical, decent citizens besides calling them racists and fascists for expressing legitimate concerns.
Because when the fascists and nationalists are the only ones paying any attention, guess who's going to start getting elected?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966468</id>
	<title>MediaWiki</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264854900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I found internal wikis to be a huge boost at my old job. At my current job everyone seems to do similar things using word files passed around over email which are like islands in the sea of information, easy to lose, easy to become outdated, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I found internal wikis to be a huge boost at my old job .
At my current job everyone seems to do similar things using word files passed around over email which are like islands in the sea of information , easy to lose , easy to become outdated , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I found internal wikis to be a huge boost at my old job.
At my current job everyone seems to do similar things using word files passed around over email which are like islands in the sea of information, easy to lose, easy to become outdated, etc.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966734</id>
	<title>Larger companies are basicaly new relationships</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264857060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>As you get more and more people involved it's only natural for things to get colder. Human beings aren't built to get close to everybody , most can only "handle" a certain amount of friends.<br>
You can certainly try to make them all get along with various teambuilding activities , parties and the like , and that will help to some extent , but you can't force them to feel close to one another. After all you can't offer 10 people the same amount of time you could offer 5 , if you were to divide it equally.<br>
The only thing you can do is hope that people working in the same team will start to bond while at the same time not gather any negative sentiments towards other teams.<br>
The best way you can do that ? Make sure everybody is doing their job right \_and\_ not pissing all over other people's job.<br>
<br>
Example Case : You've got the IT service guys fixing everything up , cleaning all the viruses from the network, but the rest of them can't be bothered to remember one secure password to their account. <br>
IT will hate everyone for making their job more difficult than it should be , and everybody will hate the IT workers because they caught them on a bad day and got shouted at.<br> <br>

Another thing I've found helpful is having a friendly face pop in and ask if there's any unresolved issues in any department or if there's any improvement that can be made.  This person can't always be their direct boss , people get scared of talking about things that bother them to people that have a say over their future. <br>
<br>

In the end all these people are only there for one thing , their job. Make sure they can do it as easily as possible , and as good as they can and you'll see people getting along.<br>
What pisses people off the most is \_wasting their time\_ even if they're getting paid for that waste time it will hurt them and they will take it out on others. At the same time don't force them to pretend their having fun if their not , that just annoys people further<br> <br>

Now since they're all trying to do their job , if you can show them that it would be easier if they worked together , that would help even more. GIve them the proper tools to collaborate and help each other and they'll all thank you for it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As you get more and more people involved it 's only natural for things to get colder .
Human beings are n't built to get close to everybody , most can only " handle " a certain amount of friends .
You can certainly try to make them all get along with various teambuilding activities , parties and the like , and that will help to some extent , but you ca n't force them to feel close to one another .
After all you ca n't offer 10 people the same amount of time you could offer 5 , if you were to divide it equally .
The only thing you can do is hope that people working in the same team will start to bond while at the same time not gather any negative sentiments towards other teams .
The best way you can do that ?
Make sure everybody is doing their job right \ _and \ _ not pissing all over other people 's job .
Example Case : You 've got the IT service guys fixing everything up , cleaning all the viruses from the network , but the rest of them ca n't be bothered to remember one secure password to their account .
IT will hate everyone for making their job more difficult than it should be , and everybody will hate the IT workers because they caught them on a bad day and got shouted at .
Another thing I 've found helpful is having a friendly face pop in and ask if there 's any unresolved issues in any department or if there 's any improvement that can be made .
This person ca n't always be their direct boss , people get scared of talking about things that bother them to people that have a say over their future .
In the end all these people are only there for one thing , their job .
Make sure they can do it as easily as possible , and as good as they can and you 'll see people getting along .
What pisses people off the most is \ _wasting their time \ _ even if they 're getting paid for that waste time it will hurt them and they will take it out on others .
At the same time do n't force them to pretend their having fun if their not , that just annoys people further Now since they 're all trying to do their job , if you can show them that it would be easier if they worked together , that would help even more .
GIve them the proper tools to collaborate and help each other and they 'll all thank you for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As you get more and more people involved it's only natural for things to get colder.
Human beings aren't built to get close to everybody , most can only "handle" a certain amount of friends.
You can certainly try to make them all get along with various teambuilding activities , parties and the like , and that will help to some extent , but you can't force them to feel close to one another.
After all you can't offer 10 people the same amount of time you could offer 5 , if you were to divide it equally.
The only thing you can do is hope that people working in the same team will start to bond while at the same time not gather any negative sentiments towards other teams.
The best way you can do that ?
Make sure everybody is doing their job right \_and\_ not pissing all over other people's job.
Example Case : You've got the IT service guys fixing everything up , cleaning all the viruses from the network, but the rest of them can't be bothered to remember one secure password to their account.
IT will hate everyone for making their job more difficult than it should be , and everybody will hate the IT workers because they caught them on a bad day and got shouted at.
Another thing I've found helpful is having a friendly face pop in and ask if there's any unresolved issues in any department or if there's any improvement that can be made.
This person can't always be their direct boss , people get scared of talking about things that bother them to people that have a say over their future.
In the end all these people are only there for one thing , their job.
Make sure they can do it as easily as possible , and as good as they can and you'll see people getting along.
What pisses people off the most is \_wasting their time\_ even if they're getting paid for that waste time it will hurt them and they will take it out on others.
At the same time don't force them to pretend their having fun if their not , that just annoys people further 

Now since they're all trying to do their job , if you can show them that it would be easier if they worked together , that would help even more.
GIve them the proper tools to collaborate and help each other and they'll all thank you for it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Ideas:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264855440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To add to Ethanol-fueled's racially prejudice, but reality based observations:</p><p>Many F.O.Bs will still have total loyalty to the motherland, and will be stealing your intellectual property and trade secrets left, right and centre.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To add to Ethanol-fueled 's racially prejudice , but reality based observations : Many F.O.Bs will still have total loyalty to the motherland , and will be stealing your intellectual property and trade secrets left , right and centre .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To add to Ethanol-fueled's racially prejudice, but reality based observations:Many F.O.Bs will still have total loyalty to the motherland, and will be stealing your intellectual property and trade secrets left, right and centre.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966616</id>
	<title>Job security</title>
	<author>Fractal Dice</author>
	<datestamp>1264856100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>People will get along with people they know they are going to be working with for a long, long time.  People aren't going to form emotional attachments to people who may mysteriously vanish from their cubicals after the next quarterly results.  Older workers know the game<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the younger ones are still naive about what lays ahead.</htmltext>
<tokenext>People will get along with people they know they are going to be working with for a long , long time .
People are n't going to form emotional attachments to people who may mysteriously vanish from their cubicals after the next quarterly results .
Older workers know the game ... the younger ones are still naive about what lays ahead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People will get along with people they know they are going to be working with for a long, long time.
People aren't going to form emotional attachments to people who may mysteriously vanish from their cubicals after the next quarterly results.
Older workers know the game ... the younger ones are still naive about what lays ahead.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967370</id>
	<title>What I'm doing to build a community</title>
	<author>Godefricus</author>
	<datestamp>1264862760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm trying to set up a community in my city, starting from my church. It's going well!!<br>I've noticed that the first thing you need is to organise a meal at set times to eat together. Good food and time together. That works. You can talk and really meet eachother.</p><p>But it's useful to have a audacious person among your group, who will just walk to the people he/she doesn't know and start talking to them uninhibitedly, and invite them, and make them part of the conversation.</p><p>Also, some form of contact (web forum maybe?) and transportation so people can keep in touch and help eachother out with different things. (One guy knows how to fix your bike, another girl has a van and can help you move, you can look after someone's child and so on)<br>Make sure there's a list available with everyone's contact information - and pictures! if it's a large group with people who don't know eachother - which is spread among everyone, so everyone can reach eachother.</p><p>Then there's prayer, but I guess that's a religious thing which won't apply in most companies<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) But there's another thing which is in the same category - taking care of eachother - and very universally humanistic, not religious at all: giving. You put a pot somewhere in a not very visible spot where people can give some money for the poor. It is remarkable how much this binds people together.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm trying to set up a community in my city , starting from my church .
It 's going well !
! I 've noticed that the first thing you need is to organise a meal at set times to eat together .
Good food and time together .
That works .
You can talk and really meet eachother.But it 's useful to have a audacious person among your group , who will just walk to the people he/she does n't know and start talking to them uninhibitedly , and invite them , and make them part of the conversation.Also , some form of contact ( web forum maybe ?
) and transportation so people can keep in touch and help eachother out with different things .
( One guy knows how to fix your bike , another girl has a van and can help you move , you can look after someone 's child and so on ) Make sure there 's a list available with everyone 's contact information - and pictures !
if it 's a large group with people who do n't know eachother - which is spread among everyone , so everyone can reach eachother.Then there 's prayer , but I guess that 's a religious thing which wo n't apply in most companies : ) But there 's another thing which is in the same category - taking care of eachother - and very universally humanistic , not religious at all : giving .
You put a pot somewhere in a not very visible spot where people can give some money for the poor .
It is remarkable how much this binds people together .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm trying to set up a community in my city, starting from my church.
It's going well!
!I've noticed that the first thing you need is to organise a meal at set times to eat together.
Good food and time together.
That works.
You can talk and really meet eachother.But it's useful to have a audacious person among your group, who will just walk to the people he/she doesn't know and start talking to them uninhibitedly, and invite them, and make them part of the conversation.Also, some form of contact (web forum maybe?
) and transportation so people can keep in touch and help eachother out with different things.
(One guy knows how to fix your bike, another girl has a van and can help you move, you can look after someone's child and so on)Make sure there's a list available with everyone's contact information - and pictures!
if it's a large group with people who don't know eachother - which is spread among everyone, so everyone can reach eachother.Then there's prayer, but I guess that's a religious thing which won't apply in most companies :) But there's another thing which is in the same category - taking care of eachother - and very universally humanistic, not religious at all: giving.
You put a pot somewhere in a not very visible spot where people can give some money for the poor.
It is remarkable how much this binds people together.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966800</id>
	<title>2 words</title>
	<author>tomhudson</author>
	<datestamp>1264857780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Being an IT company, I find it more natural for collaboration via computer, but welcome more traditional methods too.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Bring beer.
</p><p>
It's been the traditional way for IT people to communicate since at least the Stone Age.
</p><p>
"Facebook" "Chat" "Meetings"  Are you kidding? You want real communication?  Real feedback?  Beer and a whiteboard.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Being an IT company , I find it more natural for collaboration via computer , but welcome more traditional methods too .
Bring beer .
It 's been the traditional way for IT people to communicate since at least the Stone Age .
" Facebook " " Chat " " Meetings " Are you kidding ?
You want real communication ?
Real feedback ?
Beer and a whiteboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being an IT company, I find it more natural for collaboration via computer, but welcome more traditional methods too.
Bring beer.
It's been the traditional way for IT people to communicate since at least the Stone Age.
"Facebook" "Chat" "Meetings"  Are you kidding?
You want real communication?
Real feedback?
Beer and a whiteboard.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967624</id>
	<title>An iPad for everyone!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264866060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Start off by giving everybody an iPad, the rest will follow automatically!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Start off by giving everybody an iPad , the rest will follow automatically !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Start off by giving everybody an iPad, the rest will follow automatically!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.31019758</id>
	<title>Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but...</title>
	<author>jfchenier</author>
	<datestamp>1265317020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I work at a very globally dispersed company (IBM), on very globally dispersed teams (often with no two people in the same country, let alone city), so social activity is simply not feasible in a lot of cases &ndash; and technology is precisely what has enabled me to build many valuable relationships and get a sense of community. Blogging and micro-blogging on our internal social platform (Lotus Connections) fill the role of the water cooler for me and are in some ways better than a water cooler in that they help me to find people with the same interests regardless of where they sit.

I&rsquo;ve had a few chances over the years to meet people face-to-face who I formed friendships with exclusively through technology, and in every instance it has felt no different than meeting an old friend from my days spent loitering around water coolers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work at a very globally dispersed company ( IBM ) , on very globally dispersed teams ( often with no two people in the same country , let alone city ) , so social activity is simply not feasible in a lot of cases    and technology is precisely what has enabled me to build many valuable relationships and get a sense of community .
Blogging and micro-blogging on our internal social platform ( Lotus Connections ) fill the role of the water cooler for me and are in some ways better than a water cooler in that they help me to find people with the same interests regardless of where they sit .
I    ve had a few chances over the years to meet people face-to-face who I formed friendships with exclusively through technology , and in every instance it has felt no different than meeting an old friend from my days spent loitering around water coolers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work at a very globally dispersed company (IBM), on very globally dispersed teams (often with no two people in the same country, let alone city), so social activity is simply not feasible in a lot of cases – and technology is precisely what has enabled me to build many valuable relationships and get a sense of community.
Blogging and micro-blogging on our internal social platform (Lotus Connections) fill the role of the water cooler for me and are in some ways better than a water cooler in that they help me to find people with the same interests regardless of where they sit.
I’ve had a few chances over the years to meet people face-to-face who I formed friendships with exclusively through technology, and in every instance it has felt no different than meeting an old friend from my days spent loitering around water coolers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966470</id>
	<title>I've never been a fan of it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264854900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe it's just me, but I don't go to work for "community".  Don't get me wrong; I like what I do and we are all cordial at work and everything, but at the end of the day I don't really want to be your friend.  Maybe this makes me "that guy", but that's fine with me; I just prefer to keep the professional and personal aspects of my life as separate as possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it 's just me , but I do n't go to work for " community " .
Do n't get me wrong ; I like what I do and we are all cordial at work and everything , but at the end of the day I do n't really want to be your friend .
Maybe this makes me " that guy " , but that 's fine with me ; I just prefer to keep the professional and personal aspects of my life as separate as possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it's just me, but I don't go to work for "community".
Don't get me wrong; I like what I do and we are all cordial at work and everything, but at the end of the day I don't really want to be your friend.
Maybe this makes me "that guy", but that's fine with me; I just prefer to keep the professional and personal aspects of my life as separate as possible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966850</id>
	<title>Re:Its simple,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264858140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It's simple, get a kegerator</p></div></blockquote><p>
Fixed that for you.<br>
<br>
Seriously though, there's nothing like alcohol for helping people get to know each other better, in a less formal setting.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's simple , get a kegerator Fixed that for you .
Seriously though , there 's nothing like alcohol for helping people get to know each other better , in a less formal setting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's simple, get a kegerator
Fixed that for you.
Seriously though, there's nothing like alcohol for helping people get to know each other better, in a less formal setting.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967428</id>
	<title>recreation</title>
	<author>yaiba</author>
	<datestamp>1264863420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Forget irc/facebook and any computer related stuffs.</p><p>I would suggest these:</p><p>- billards table, darts, mahjong etc..<br>- wii, ps3<br>- cards (with chips)<br>- stick hockey table (make tournaments for fun)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Forget irc/facebook and any computer related stuffs.I would suggest these : - billards table , darts , mahjong etc..- wii , ps3- cards ( with chips ) - stick hockey table ( make tournaments for fun )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forget irc/facebook and any computer related stuffs.I would suggest these:- billards table, darts, mahjong etc..- wii, ps3- cards (with chips)- stick hockey table (make tournaments for fun)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967788</id>
	<title>Beer. Unofficial meetings.</title>
	<author>MarcQuadra</author>
	<datestamp>1264868580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We used to have 'breakdown' on Fridays. That's where we send someone around asking what you want, then send them out to get a bunch of beer. Invite one senior director every-other week for coverage and to see them 'in real life'.</p><p>I learned more about how the office -really- works, got a lot of things actually done, and met the key players much faster than those who opted-out of 'breakdown'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We used to have 'breakdown ' on Fridays .
That 's where we send someone around asking what you want , then send them out to get a bunch of beer .
Invite one senior director every-other week for coverage and to see them 'in real life'.I learned more about how the office -really- works , got a lot of things actually done , and met the key players much faster than those who opted-out of 'breakdown' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We used to have 'breakdown' on Fridays.
That's where we send someone around asking what you want, then send them out to get a bunch of beer.
Invite one senior director every-other week for coverage and to see them 'in real life'.I learned more about how the office -really- works, got a lot of things actually done, and met the key players much faster than those who opted-out of 'breakdown'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30969894</id>
	<title>Re:Older Guy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264948380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ditto that.  When I was younger, socializing with my working peers was more important.  Now that I'm older (40ish), I have a well established broad spectrum of family, friends and acquaintances, and really don't want to be bothered by capricious "get-togethers" etc.  The younger set often ascribes this to curmudgeonliness.  So be it.  I'm a perfectly fine fellow, I simply have my social life in good order without their help, thank you very much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ditto that .
When I was younger , socializing with my working peers was more important .
Now that I 'm older ( 40ish ) , I have a well established broad spectrum of family , friends and acquaintances , and really do n't want to be bothered by capricious " get-togethers " etc .
The younger set often ascribes this to curmudgeonliness .
So be it .
I 'm a perfectly fine fellow , I simply have my social life in good order without their help , thank you very much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ditto that.
When I was younger, socializing with my working peers was more important.
Now that I'm older (40ish), I have a well established broad spectrum of family, friends and acquaintances, and really don't want to be bothered by capricious "get-togethers" etc.
The younger set often ascribes this to curmudgeonliness.
So be it.
I'm a perfectly fine fellow, I simply have my social life in good order without their help, thank you very much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966550</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264855560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think there's a huge variance in culture of foreign-born folks, even if culturally-American is your main goal. I see a ton of foreign (mostly Asian) students in CS grad school, and they vary from barely able to communicate in English and no interest in American culture, to pretty comfortable and well-connected with their peers of all backgrounds. Time makes some difference: someone who came to the U.S. at 18 and went to an American university for 4 years is much more likely to be comfortable with the local culture than someone who moved to the U.S. after all their schooling was completed. What kind of family they came from matters also--- someone who grew up in a generally liberal, cosmopolitan environment will probably adapt better than someone from a more isolated, conservative background.</p><p>I do agree xenophobia is the biggest potential flashpoint. In particular, I have heard some... not very tactful... comments from immigrants about American blacks, the kinds of things that even racist rural white Mississippians would, in 2010, know you can't say in public. (This isn't specific to Asian immigrants--- I've also heard white European immigrants, especially from Russia or eastern Europe, say such things.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think there 's a huge variance in culture of foreign-born folks , even if culturally-American is your main goal .
I see a ton of foreign ( mostly Asian ) students in CS grad school , and they vary from barely able to communicate in English and no interest in American culture , to pretty comfortable and well-connected with their peers of all backgrounds .
Time makes some difference : someone who came to the U.S. at 18 and went to an American university for 4 years is much more likely to be comfortable with the local culture than someone who moved to the U.S. after all their schooling was completed .
What kind of family they came from matters also--- someone who grew up in a generally liberal , cosmopolitan environment will probably adapt better than someone from a more isolated , conservative background.I do agree xenophobia is the biggest potential flashpoint .
In particular , I have heard some... not very tactful... comments from immigrants about American blacks , the kinds of things that even racist rural white Mississippians would , in 2010 , know you ca n't say in public .
( This is n't specific to Asian immigrants--- I 've also heard white European immigrants , especially from Russia or eastern Europe , say such things .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think there's a huge variance in culture of foreign-born folks, even if culturally-American is your main goal.
I see a ton of foreign (mostly Asian) students in CS grad school, and they vary from barely able to communicate in English and no interest in American culture, to pretty comfortable and well-connected with their peers of all backgrounds.
Time makes some difference: someone who came to the U.S. at 18 and went to an American university for 4 years is much more likely to be comfortable with the local culture than someone who moved to the U.S. after all their schooling was completed.
What kind of family they came from matters also--- someone who grew up in a generally liberal, cosmopolitan environment will probably adapt better than someone from a more isolated, conservative background.I do agree xenophobia is the biggest potential flashpoint.
In particular, I have heard some... not very tactful... comments from immigrants about American blacks, the kinds of things that even racist rural white Mississippians would, in 2010, know you can't say in public.
(This isn't specific to Asian immigrants--- I've also heard white European immigrants, especially from Russia or eastern Europe, say such things.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966588</id>
	<title>Virtual Workspace Experiences</title>
	<author>Tisha\_AH</author>
	<datestamp>1264855860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work for a small company where all but two of the employees work remotely from our homes. We are an engineering-consulting company and are very dependent upon each other for we each have very different skill-sets. Here is my impression on how it works for us;</p><p>1. The hiring process is very prolonged, taking weeks and multiple interviews with many people. Only part of this is for the technical skills necessary to do the kind of work we do. The interview process is to make sure that our new hires are cultural fits into our work model and are capable of self-starting and have initiative.</p><p>2. We keep in contact constantly by telephone, GoToMeeting, email and collaborative work assignments.</p><p>3. While we have owners who are also employees we work in a very dynamic manner. It is not unusual for a very new person to be the senior of a manager/owner on certain projects.</p><p>4. We all share the same goals for our company. We know what is happening, what is important at the moment and the need to be completely flexible.</p><p>As we grow more we are certain to eventually develop some sort of central office but the heart and soul of the company will be spread across the company.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for a small company where all but two of the employees work remotely from our homes .
We are an engineering-consulting company and are very dependent upon each other for we each have very different skill-sets .
Here is my impression on how it works for us ; 1 .
The hiring process is very prolonged , taking weeks and multiple interviews with many people .
Only part of this is for the technical skills necessary to do the kind of work we do .
The interview process is to make sure that our new hires are cultural fits into our work model and are capable of self-starting and have initiative.2 .
We keep in contact constantly by telephone , GoToMeeting , email and collaborative work assignments.3 .
While we have owners who are also employees we work in a very dynamic manner .
It is not unusual for a very new person to be the senior of a manager/owner on certain projects.4 .
We all share the same goals for our company .
We know what is happening , what is important at the moment and the need to be completely flexible.As we grow more we are certain to eventually develop some sort of central office but the heart and soul of the company will be spread across the company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for a small company where all but two of the employees work remotely from our homes.
We are an engineering-consulting company and are very dependent upon each other for we each have very different skill-sets.
Here is my impression on how it works for us;1.
The hiring process is very prolonged, taking weeks and multiple interviews with many people.
Only part of this is for the technical skills necessary to do the kind of work we do.
The interview process is to make sure that our new hires are cultural fits into our work model and are capable of self-starting and have initiative.2.
We keep in contact constantly by telephone, GoToMeeting, email and collaborative work assignments.3.
While we have owners who are also employees we work in a very dynamic manner.
It is not unusual for a very new person to be the senior of a manager/owner on certain projects.4.
We all share the same goals for our company.
We know what is happening, what is important at the moment and the need to be completely flexible.As we grow more we are certain to eventually develop some sort of central office but the heart and soul of the company will be spread across the company.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967568</id>
	<title>Share profits with all employees</title>
	<author>brettz9</author>
	<datestamp>1264865220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firstly, I congratulate you for your caring enough about taking on the issue.</p><p>However, I think it is worthwhile to ask (if you, like most companies, have not already considered) whether employees have enough incentive to really <em>want</em> to work together in your company.</p><p>If companies gave a share of the profits to every employee in the company, not only would those employees have a stake at being more polite to clients, more innovative, etc., they would also see that their own interests were tied up in the interests of the other employees. It wouldn't be us-vs-them as far as other departments, or me-vs-them, it would foster working together, and a sense of ownership in the company, especially if the company also regularly consults with and consider the employees as part owners in decision-making.</p><p>When the employees stand to gain from greater cohesion, executives aren't solely responsible for attempting rah-rah motivation that encourages them to do so. No executive would join or stick around with a company which wasn't rewarding him or her, so executives need to stop thinking they are in a special class of people who are inherently motivated for grander things like team-work and service.</p><p>Just because one hopes employees will just naturally have an ethic to work in the interests of the company--including fostering good relations with other co-workers--doesn't mean they will.</p><p>Too many companies assume that only executives are worthy of enticing with a share of the company's profits, or they make the program opt-in or dependent on the employee spending some of their own money, while some of the strongest benefits may come from there literally being collective ownership by everyone (at least as far as having a share of the profits and some decision making). Everyone has <em>reason</em> to work together, beyond the inherent but more elusive rewards for doing so.</p><p>While this might not be your company's issue, and while the suggestion may only seem tangentially related to your question, ensuring people are motivated for the fundamental reason most choose to be with a company (and to work at all) really needs to be taken into account before they will be more productive and more interested in collaborating and feeling at home at work.</p><p>Capitalism has it right when it recognizes people need incentives, but oddly, such incentives haven't been adequately brought to the common people who might otherwise be wooed by communism. Many executives today actually come off as rather communistic in assuming people should just work for the benefit of the "state" (corporation). They insist that workers should just be satisfied with a salary and fear of losing their job, and that this should be enough to motivate anyone. It isn't.</p><p>To reference Slashdot canonical authority, note that one of the serious moments in the film Office Space was when the main character is asked whether having a share of the profits would motivate him, and he actually admits it might.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firstly , I congratulate you for your caring enough about taking on the issue.However , I think it is worthwhile to ask ( if you , like most companies , have not already considered ) whether employees have enough incentive to really want to work together in your company.If companies gave a share of the profits to every employee in the company , not only would those employees have a stake at being more polite to clients , more innovative , etc. , they would also see that their own interests were tied up in the interests of the other employees .
It would n't be us-vs-them as far as other departments , or me-vs-them , it would foster working together , and a sense of ownership in the company , especially if the company also regularly consults with and consider the employees as part owners in decision-making.When the employees stand to gain from greater cohesion , executives are n't solely responsible for attempting rah-rah motivation that encourages them to do so .
No executive would join or stick around with a company which was n't rewarding him or her , so executives need to stop thinking they are in a special class of people who are inherently motivated for grander things like team-work and service.Just because one hopes employees will just naturally have an ethic to work in the interests of the company--including fostering good relations with other co-workers--does n't mean they will.Too many companies assume that only executives are worthy of enticing with a share of the company 's profits , or they make the program opt-in or dependent on the employee spending some of their own money , while some of the strongest benefits may come from there literally being collective ownership by everyone ( at least as far as having a share of the profits and some decision making ) .
Everyone has reason to work together , beyond the inherent but more elusive rewards for doing so.While this might not be your company 's issue , and while the suggestion may only seem tangentially related to your question , ensuring people are motivated for the fundamental reason most choose to be with a company ( and to work at all ) really needs to be taken into account before they will be more productive and more interested in collaborating and feeling at home at work.Capitalism has it right when it recognizes people need incentives , but oddly , such incentives have n't been adequately brought to the common people who might otherwise be wooed by communism .
Many executives today actually come off as rather communistic in assuming people should just work for the benefit of the " state " ( corporation ) .
They insist that workers should just be satisfied with a salary and fear of losing their job , and that this should be enough to motivate anyone .
It is n't.To reference Slashdot canonical authority , note that one of the serious moments in the film Office Space was when the main character is asked whether having a share of the profits would motivate him , and he actually admits it might .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firstly, I congratulate you for your caring enough about taking on the issue.However, I think it is worthwhile to ask (if you, like most companies, have not already considered) whether employees have enough incentive to really want to work together in your company.If companies gave a share of the profits to every employee in the company, not only would those employees have a stake at being more polite to clients, more innovative, etc., they would also see that their own interests were tied up in the interests of the other employees.
It wouldn't be us-vs-them as far as other departments, or me-vs-them, it would foster working together, and a sense of ownership in the company, especially if the company also regularly consults with and consider the employees as part owners in decision-making.When the employees stand to gain from greater cohesion, executives aren't solely responsible for attempting rah-rah motivation that encourages them to do so.
No executive would join or stick around with a company which wasn't rewarding him or her, so executives need to stop thinking they are in a special class of people who are inherently motivated for grander things like team-work and service.Just because one hopes employees will just naturally have an ethic to work in the interests of the company--including fostering good relations with other co-workers--doesn't mean they will.Too many companies assume that only executives are worthy of enticing with a share of the company's profits, or they make the program opt-in or dependent on the employee spending some of their own money, while some of the strongest benefits may come from there literally being collective ownership by everyone (at least as far as having a share of the profits and some decision making).
Everyone has reason to work together, beyond the inherent but more elusive rewards for doing so.While this might not be your company's issue, and while the suggestion may only seem tangentially related to your question, ensuring people are motivated for the fundamental reason most choose to be with a company (and to work at all) really needs to be taken into account before they will be more productive and more interested in collaborating and feeling at home at work.Capitalism has it right when it recognizes people need incentives, but oddly, such incentives haven't been adequately brought to the common people who might otherwise be wooed by communism.
Many executives today actually come off as rather communistic in assuming people should just work for the benefit of the "state" (corporation).
They insist that workers should just be satisfied with a salary and fear of losing their job, and that this should be enough to motivate anyone.
It isn't.To reference Slashdot canonical authority, note that one of the serious moments in the film Office Space was when the main character is asked whether having a share of the profits would motivate him, and he actually admits it might.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968986</id>
	<title>Re:Older Guy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264932720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>as another older guy, I feel the same as you. The 80/20 thing is probably overly generous tho'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as another older guy , I feel the same as you .
The 80/20 thing is probably overly generous tho'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as another older guy, I feel the same as you.
The 80/20 thing is probably overly generous tho'</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967036</id>
	<title>Recommendation</title>
	<author>955301</author>
	<datestamp>1264859880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are fighting an impossible cause. We aren't designed to know and care about this many people. If you intend to let your business grow beyond 10 individuals (Yes! Ten. Those people each have at least 3 people they care about, making the minimum count 30 already) then you will fail to accomplish what you are looking for. More importantly, if some of them fall for it and begin to trust others at the office, they run the risk of being *deceived by someone they are attempting to trust*, while at work. You will have effectively attached their desire to work there to the outcome of any one relationship they build at work. If *one* relationship goes sour, the person is that more likely to leave altogether. This is why you want all relationships to "not mean anything" at work. It's important to the business.</p><p>Other than that, best of luck.<br><a href="http://www.cracked.com/article\_14990\_what-monkeysphere.html" title="cracked.com">http://www.cracked.com/article\_14990\_what-monkeysphere.html</a> [cracked.com]<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's\_number" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's\_number</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are fighting an impossible cause .
We are n't designed to know and care about this many people .
If you intend to let your business grow beyond 10 individuals ( Yes !
Ten. Those people each have at least 3 people they care about , making the minimum count 30 already ) then you will fail to accomplish what you are looking for .
More importantly , if some of them fall for it and begin to trust others at the office , they run the risk of being * deceived by someone they are attempting to trust * , while at work .
You will have effectively attached their desire to work there to the outcome of any one relationship they build at work .
If * one * relationship goes sour , the person is that more likely to leave altogether .
This is why you want all relationships to " not mean anything " at work .
It 's important to the business.Other than that , best of luck.http : //www.cracked.com/article \ _14990 \ _what-monkeysphere.html [ cracked.com ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar 's \ _number [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are fighting an impossible cause.
We aren't designed to know and care about this many people.
If you intend to let your business grow beyond 10 individuals (Yes!
Ten. Those people each have at least 3 people they care about, making the minimum count 30 already) then you will fail to accomplish what you are looking for.
More importantly, if some of them fall for it and begin to trust others at the office, they run the risk of being *deceived by someone they are attempting to trust*, while at work.
You will have effectively attached their desire to work there to the outcome of any one relationship they build at work.
If *one* relationship goes sour, the person is that more likely to leave altogether.
This is why you want all relationships to "not mean anything" at work.
It's important to the business.Other than that, best of luck.http://www.cracked.com/article\_14990\_what-monkeysphere.html [cracked.com]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's\_number [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30969638</id>
	<title>Re:Older Guy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264944900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Early 30's, same idea.</p><p>I like my work environment, I don't know everyone, and guess what, I don't want everyone at work to be my friend.</p><p>Having a lunch with co-workers each week or so is fine, but anything more often?  the food, the drink or the activity will be during work hours and won't be paid by me.</p><p>There's life outside work, and it's a heck of a lot more fun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Early 30 's , same idea.I like my work environment , I do n't know everyone , and guess what , I do n't want everyone at work to be my friend.Having a lunch with co-workers each week or so is fine , but anything more often ?
the food , the drink or the activity will be during work hours and wo n't be paid by me.There 's life outside work , and it 's a heck of a lot more fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Early 30's, same idea.I like my work environment, I don't know everyone, and guess what, I don't want everyone at work to be my friend.Having a lunch with co-workers each week or so is fine, but anything more often?
the food, the drink or the activity will be during work hours and won't be paid by me.There's life outside work, and it's a heck of a lot more fun.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30972284</id>
	<title>LONG Ideas:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264967580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"In particular, I have heard some... not very tactful... comments from immigrants about American blacks, the kinds of things that even racist rural white Mississippians would, in 2010, know you can't say in public. (This isn't specific to Asian immigrants--- I've also heard white European immigrants, especially from Russia or eastern Europe, say such things.)"</p><p>Why yes we do have long dicks and are great in bed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" In particular , I have heard some... not very tactful... comments from immigrants about American blacks , the kinds of things that even racist rural white Mississippians would , in 2010 , know you ca n't say in public .
( This is n't specific to Asian immigrants--- I 've also heard white European immigrants , especially from Russia or eastern Europe , say such things .
) " Why yes we do have long dicks and are great in bed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"In particular, I have heard some... not very tactful... comments from immigrants about American blacks, the kinds of things that even racist rural white Mississippians would, in 2010, know you can't say in public.
(This isn't specific to Asian immigrants--- I've also heard white European immigrants, especially from Russia or eastern Europe, say such things.
)"Why yes we do have long dicks and are great in bed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968690</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas:</title>
	<author>Xeleema</author>
	<datestamp>1264969740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ya know, I was half tempted to denounce you as racist, but after re-re-reading your post, you make a very valid point regarding "Cultural Divides".

<b>Especially</b> the language barrier.  I've picked up a few Rosetta Stones, and let me tell you; our Database Admins all hail from a Middle part of the East, and they really burn people in their native tongue.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ya know , I was half tempted to denounce you as racist , but after re-re-reading your post , you make a very valid point regarding " Cultural Divides " .
Especially the language barrier .
I 've picked up a few Rosetta Stones , and let me tell you ; our Database Admins all hail from a Middle part of the East , and they really burn people in their native tongue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ya know, I was half tempted to denounce you as racist, but after re-re-reading your post, you make a very valid point regarding "Cultural Divides".
Especially the language barrier.
I've picked up a few Rosetta Stones, and let me tell you; our Database Admins all hail from a Middle part of the East, and they really burn people in their native tongue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967012</id>
	<title>Food and drink</title>
	<author>Cyrano de Maniac</author>
	<datestamp>1264859640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's simple really -- the same way you build up relationships with people outside the office -- around food and drink.</p><p>Things that have worked very successfully at my workplace (not all in place at the same time over the years):</p><p>- Friday Beer Bash.  3PM on Fridays (or most Fridays) have a self-sponsored beer bash.  A few volunteers buy beer, some non-alcoholic beverages, and some chips/cookies etc.  Everyone is invited to come, sit, and visit.  Everyone is expected to chip in a couple bucks toward the food.</p><p>- Donuts.  A set of people gets together at the same time in the morning once a week (Friday at 8AM when we did it) for donuts in the conference room.  This isn't a "come grab a donut and go back to your office/cube" thing, but sit around the conference room and talk about anything and everything (work related or not).  The participants are on a rotation to bring donuts, milk, and juice, paying out of their own pocket whenever their rotation comes around.</p><p>- Grilling.  Pitch in together to buy a grill (or get one donated by someone, or the company).  During months where the weather is nice enough, grill lunch outside, everyone bringing their own items to grill that day.  Probably do this once a week.  Organize payment for propane/charcoal however makes sense (chip in a buck once a week/etc).</p><p>- Cooking contests.  An annual brownie contest, chili and cornbread contest, etc.  A panel of employee judges gets to judge the contest, or everyone in attendance votes for their favorites.  Have some sort of small prizes for the top three (e.g. small gift cards), funded however makes sense (company, entrance fee, proceeds from employees chipping in at the door to cover extras like beverages).</p><p>- Often the "self-sponsored" events above (beer bash, grilling, donuts if you choose to do it that way) end up generating more cash than actual costs.  Whenever the amount builds up to a sufficient level, have a "free" pizza/whatever lunch paid out of the proceeds.</p><p>- Not quite a food thing, more of a beer thing, but start up a bowling league, company softball team, or something like that that gets people from different departments to join up around a common interest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's simple really -- the same way you build up relationships with people outside the office -- around food and drink.Things that have worked very successfully at my workplace ( not all in place at the same time over the years ) : - Friday Beer Bash .
3PM on Fridays ( or most Fridays ) have a self-sponsored beer bash .
A few volunteers buy beer , some non-alcoholic beverages , and some chips/cookies etc .
Everyone is invited to come , sit , and visit .
Everyone is expected to chip in a couple bucks toward the food.- Donuts .
A set of people gets together at the same time in the morning once a week ( Friday at 8AM when we did it ) for donuts in the conference room .
This is n't a " come grab a donut and go back to your office/cube " thing , but sit around the conference room and talk about anything and everything ( work related or not ) .
The participants are on a rotation to bring donuts , milk , and juice , paying out of their own pocket whenever their rotation comes around.- Grilling .
Pitch in together to buy a grill ( or get one donated by someone , or the company ) .
During months where the weather is nice enough , grill lunch outside , everyone bringing their own items to grill that day .
Probably do this once a week .
Organize payment for propane/charcoal however makes sense ( chip in a buck once a week/etc ) .- Cooking contests .
An annual brownie contest , chili and cornbread contest , etc .
A panel of employee judges gets to judge the contest , or everyone in attendance votes for their favorites .
Have some sort of small prizes for the top three ( e.g .
small gift cards ) , funded however makes sense ( company , entrance fee , proceeds from employees chipping in at the door to cover extras like beverages ) .- Often the " self-sponsored " events above ( beer bash , grilling , donuts if you choose to do it that way ) end up generating more cash than actual costs .
Whenever the amount builds up to a sufficient level , have a " free " pizza/whatever lunch paid out of the proceeds.- Not quite a food thing , more of a beer thing , but start up a bowling league , company softball team , or something like that that gets people from different departments to join up around a common interest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's simple really -- the same way you build up relationships with people outside the office -- around food and drink.Things that have worked very successfully at my workplace (not all in place at the same time over the years):- Friday Beer Bash.
3PM on Fridays (or most Fridays) have a self-sponsored beer bash.
A few volunteers buy beer, some non-alcoholic beverages, and some chips/cookies etc.
Everyone is invited to come, sit, and visit.
Everyone is expected to chip in a couple bucks toward the food.- Donuts.
A set of people gets together at the same time in the morning once a week (Friday at 8AM when we did it) for donuts in the conference room.
This isn't a "come grab a donut and go back to your office/cube" thing, but sit around the conference room and talk about anything and everything (work related or not).
The participants are on a rotation to bring donuts, milk, and juice, paying out of their own pocket whenever their rotation comes around.- Grilling.
Pitch in together to buy a grill (or get one donated by someone, or the company).
During months where the weather is nice enough, grill lunch outside, everyone bringing their own items to grill that day.
Probably do this once a week.
Organize payment for propane/charcoal however makes sense (chip in a buck once a week/etc).- Cooking contests.
An annual brownie contest, chili and cornbread contest, etc.
A panel of employee judges gets to judge the contest, or everyone in attendance votes for their favorites.
Have some sort of small prizes for the top three (e.g.
small gift cards), funded however makes sense (company, entrance fee, proceeds from employees chipping in at the door to cover extras like beverages).- Often the "self-sponsored" events above (beer bash, grilling, donuts if you choose to do it that way) end up generating more cash than actual costs.
Whenever the amount builds up to a sufficient level, have a "free" pizza/whatever lunch paid out of the proceeds.- Not quite a food thing, more of a beer thing, but start up a bowling league, company softball team, or something like that that gets people from different departments to join up around a common interest.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968024</id>
	<title>Feed Them</title>
	<author>burris</author>
	<datestamp>1264871880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want people to come together and socialize, the only time they can do it is during lunch.  Before or after work, people want to tend to their lives.  During working hours you want them to work.  Therefore, the solution is to provide lunch.  Everyone loves free food (make sure it's good and healthy) so that's going to put your people into a better mood right off the bat.  Eating together is the most time honored and proven solution to building community.  It's baked into our DNA.  People won't even realize you're doing it for selfish reasons, unlike anything else you could do.  There is also a very good chance that people will actually get work done (the kind that can be done over lunch.)  When hiring, you'll enjoy more accepted offers from your top candidates.</p><p>The people that run companies like Apple, Microsoft, Google, and many, many others are not stupid and not frivolous.  They make a calculated decision to provide high quality food for their employees.  It pays off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want people to come together and socialize , the only time they can do it is during lunch .
Before or after work , people want to tend to their lives .
During working hours you want them to work .
Therefore , the solution is to provide lunch .
Everyone loves free food ( make sure it 's good and healthy ) so that 's going to put your people into a better mood right off the bat .
Eating together is the most time honored and proven solution to building community .
It 's baked into our DNA .
People wo n't even realize you 're doing it for selfish reasons , unlike anything else you could do .
There is also a very good chance that people will actually get work done ( the kind that can be done over lunch .
) When hiring , you 'll enjoy more accepted offers from your top candidates.The people that run companies like Apple , Microsoft , Google , and many , many others are not stupid and not frivolous .
They make a calculated decision to provide high quality food for their employees .
It pays off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want people to come together and socialize, the only time they can do it is during lunch.
Before or after work, people want to tend to their lives.
During working hours you want them to work.
Therefore, the solution is to provide lunch.
Everyone loves free food (make sure it's good and healthy) so that's going to put your people into a better mood right off the bat.
Eating together is the most time honored and proven solution to building community.
It's baked into our DNA.
People won't even realize you're doing it for selfish reasons, unlike anything else you could do.
There is also a very good chance that people will actually get work done (the kind that can be done over lunch.
)  When hiring, you'll enjoy more accepted offers from your top candidates.The people that run companies like Apple, Microsoft, Google, and many, many others are not stupid and not frivolous.
They make a calculated decision to provide high quality food for their employees.
It pays off.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30969564</id>
	<title>Use a neutral interaction space like a mmpog</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264943520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the main problems is actually getting people to meet each other, even to know of the others existence.</p><p>This will be a bit controversial in an office but think about introducing a half hour mmpog.</p><p>Split people up into teams and then vary the teams over time (say every two months) so that different people get to work together with others they don't know.</p><p>Getting this pas your CEO may be tough.</p><p>But this can tick all the right boxes for what you are trying to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the main problems is actually getting people to meet each other , even to know of the others existence.This will be a bit controversial in an office but think about introducing a half hour mmpog.Split people up into teams and then vary the teams over time ( say every two months ) so that different people get to work together with others they do n't know.Getting this pas your CEO may be tough.But this can tick all the right boxes for what you are trying to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the main problems is actually getting people to meet each other, even to know of the others existence.This will be a bit controversial in an office but think about introducing a half hour mmpog.Split people up into teams and then vary the teams over time (say every two months) so that different people get to work together with others they don't know.Getting this pas your CEO may be tough.But this can tick all the right boxes for what you are trying to do.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966980</id>
	<title>movie day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264859340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take everyone to see "Alice in Wonderland" when it comes out, during the workday, over two days so the work gets done.  Preferably to a theater that has table service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take everyone to see " Alice in Wonderland " when it comes out , during the workday , over two days so the work gets done .
Preferably to a theater that has table service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take everyone to see "Alice in Wonderland" when it comes out, during the workday, over two days so the work gets done.
Preferably to a theater that has table service.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966512</id>
	<title>A very high technology idea</title>
	<author>godrik</author>
	<datestamp>1264855320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A room with a coffee machine, one or two tables and some up-to-date newspaper will make people sit during their break and talk about the news.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A room with a coffee machine , one or two tables and some up-to-date newspaper will make people sit during their break and talk about the news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A room with a coffee machine, one or two tables and some up-to-date newspaper will make people sit during their break and talk about the news.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967062</id>
	<title>Alcohol</title>
	<author>adenied</author>
	<datestamp>1264860120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want to really get to know your coworkers, organize some sort of event with alcohol.  (Caveat being make sure HR / CEO / Managers are cool with this first.)</p><p>This doesn't have to be a big formal thing or anything.  Just send off an e-mail saying "There'll be a bunch of beers and some wine over in [common area] at 3:30pm this [good day of the week when people are actually around]!  Come hang out and get to know your co-workers!"  Maybe set up a big TV with Guitar Hero or some sort of video game that is both enjoyable to watch and to play.</p><p>One of two things will happen.  If you're lucky you'll get a few people to show up and have a good time.  Others might hear people laughing and chatting and go over to join.  Have a few of these, once a month perhaps or more often if it seems appropriate, and hopefully more and more people will show up.  It helps if your common area is a place that's a bit removed from the working area so people can't easily slip back to their desks.</p><p>If you're unlucky, you'll find out that you work with a bunch of boring people / former alcoholics who want nothing to do with it and you might be SOL.  Years ago when my company was a much smaller start up, most Fridays someone would come around with a keg or a few cases of cold beers on a wagon.  Was a great way to get people to have a bit of fun.  We also did wine tasting events fairly regularly where people could sign up to bring either cheese or wine and would get paired up a day ahead of time to try to match things up.  You need to make sure you have at least a few people who are willing to spend a few bucks on decent bottles for this to work.  Or hell, drop a bit on your own and see if people show up.  For the more hardcore offices, whiskey tastings work too.</p><p>I'm sure there's a lot of other great ideas out there, but I've had great success over the last decade with plying my co-workers with booze.  Try it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to really get to know your coworkers , organize some sort of event with alcohol .
( Caveat being make sure HR / CEO / Managers are cool with this first .
) This does n't have to be a big formal thing or anything .
Just send off an e-mail saying " There 'll be a bunch of beers and some wine over in [ common area ] at 3 : 30pm this [ good day of the week when people are actually around ] !
Come hang out and get to know your co-workers !
" Maybe set up a big TV with Guitar Hero or some sort of video game that is both enjoyable to watch and to play.One of two things will happen .
If you 're lucky you 'll get a few people to show up and have a good time .
Others might hear people laughing and chatting and go over to join .
Have a few of these , once a month perhaps or more often if it seems appropriate , and hopefully more and more people will show up .
It helps if your common area is a place that 's a bit removed from the working area so people ca n't easily slip back to their desks.If you 're unlucky , you 'll find out that you work with a bunch of boring people / former alcoholics who want nothing to do with it and you might be SOL .
Years ago when my company was a much smaller start up , most Fridays someone would come around with a keg or a few cases of cold beers on a wagon .
Was a great way to get people to have a bit of fun .
We also did wine tasting events fairly regularly where people could sign up to bring either cheese or wine and would get paired up a day ahead of time to try to match things up .
You need to make sure you have at least a few people who are willing to spend a few bucks on decent bottles for this to work .
Or hell , drop a bit on your own and see if people show up .
For the more hardcore offices , whiskey tastings work too.I 'm sure there 's a lot of other great ideas out there , but I 've had great success over the last decade with plying my co-workers with booze .
Try it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to really get to know your coworkers, organize some sort of event with alcohol.
(Caveat being make sure HR / CEO / Managers are cool with this first.
)This doesn't have to be a big formal thing or anything.
Just send off an e-mail saying "There'll be a bunch of beers and some wine over in [common area] at 3:30pm this [good day of the week when people are actually around]!
Come hang out and get to know your co-workers!
"  Maybe set up a big TV with Guitar Hero or some sort of video game that is both enjoyable to watch and to play.One of two things will happen.
If you're lucky you'll get a few people to show up and have a good time.
Others might hear people laughing and chatting and go over to join.
Have a few of these, once a month perhaps or more often if it seems appropriate, and hopefully more and more people will show up.
It helps if your common area is a place that's a bit removed from the working area so people can't easily slip back to their desks.If you're unlucky, you'll find out that you work with a bunch of boring people / former alcoholics who want nothing to do with it and you might be SOL.
Years ago when my company was a much smaller start up, most Fridays someone would come around with a keg or a few cases of cold beers on a wagon.
Was a great way to get people to have a bit of fun.
We also did wine tasting events fairly regularly where people could sign up to bring either cheese or wine and would get paired up a day ahead of time to try to match things up.
You need to make sure you have at least a few people who are willing to spend a few bucks on decent bottles for this to work.
Or hell, drop a bit on your own and see if people show up.
For the more hardcore offices, whiskey tastings work too.I'm sure there's a lot of other great ideas out there, but I've had great success over the last decade with plying my co-workers with booze.
Try it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966466</id>
	<title>Its simple,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264854840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its simple,get a water cooler</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its simple,get a water cooler</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its simple,get a water cooler</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966724</id>
	<title>Two Words:</title>
	<author>xefer</author>
	<datestamp>1264857000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Alcohol</htmltext>
<tokenext>Alcohol</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alcohol</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968200</id>
	<title>Facilitated storytelling is a keeper - online too</title>
	<author>s\_devo</author>
	<datestamp>1264874520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You may have tapped into a theme that is a commonly growing one - our workplaces are certainly changing. I find these days that they people in them are more transient, more multi-cultural, more multi-generational and more and more the work and conversations are mediated through the power of internet technologies.

I'm a big fan of the use of storytelling to build the depth of community it sounds you are hoping to develop in your organization. Interestingly enough storytelling can be just as effective online in building teams and deepening group relationships. I've recently done a PhD on the topic looking at a range of online software tools:
<a href="http://hdl.handle.net/10292/778" title="handle.net" rel="nofollow">http://hdl.handle.net/10292/778</a> [handle.net]

You may find the 5.0 findings chapter may be useful as well as some of the process guidelines in chapter 6.

Storytelling is a really useful for people to establish their identity, to share values and beliefs and to create a collective sense of one another. It creates real possibility for groups of people - particularly for those who are struggling to form cohesively face-to-face online.

I'd recommend that you have a go at bringing a group of people together - online or face-to-face - inviting them to get to know their company colleagues and that you're aiming at building more community in the company. If you get a lot of people responding then I'd suggest you form them into sub-groups of 6-8. Get them to assign a time keeper in each group and give them 30-40 minutes to respond to a 'focus question' or statement. something like "Sharing a learning from a previous career and how it now helps you in your current role in the company; sharing a key learning from your worst job or worst failure; share a dream for the future; conquering a challenge; share what are the burning questions or issues for you at this company... (I'm sure you can come up with something workable).

If you're going to do it face-to-face - perhaps see if corporate can sponsor some beer and pizza!

If online - tool selection could be an important success factor - choose something simple to start with and then you can maybe leave tool selection up to the sub-groups if they've formed.

One of my roles is to train people in facilitating online groups. I lead online programmes that bring together people from around the world together to learn about the art of group facilitation online and to engage in a range of online software tools:
<a href="http://www.zenergyglobal.com/of/" title="zenergyglobal.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zenergyglobal.com/of/</a> [zenergyglobal.com]

I get people blogging, skyping, video conferencing and facilitating each other in Second Life. It's amazing how creative groups of people can get when they are given some choices and a bonded and aligned organization is so much more effective, resilient and responsive to change.

Best wishes for your community development calling.
Stephen</htmltext>
<tokenext>You may have tapped into a theme that is a commonly growing one - our workplaces are certainly changing .
I find these days that they people in them are more transient , more multi-cultural , more multi-generational and more and more the work and conversations are mediated through the power of internet technologies .
I 'm a big fan of the use of storytelling to build the depth of community it sounds you are hoping to develop in your organization .
Interestingly enough storytelling can be just as effective online in building teams and deepening group relationships .
I 've recently done a PhD on the topic looking at a range of online software tools : http : //hdl.handle.net/10292/778 [ handle.net ] You may find the 5.0 findings chapter may be useful as well as some of the process guidelines in chapter 6 .
Storytelling is a really useful for people to establish their identity , to share values and beliefs and to create a collective sense of one another .
It creates real possibility for groups of people - particularly for those who are struggling to form cohesively face-to-face online .
I 'd recommend that you have a go at bringing a group of people together - online or face-to-face - inviting them to get to know their company colleagues and that you 're aiming at building more community in the company .
If you get a lot of people responding then I 'd suggest you form them into sub-groups of 6-8 .
Get them to assign a time keeper in each group and give them 30-40 minutes to respond to a 'focus question ' or statement .
something like " Sharing a learning from a previous career and how it now helps you in your current role in the company ; sharing a key learning from your worst job or worst failure ; share a dream for the future ; conquering a challenge ; share what are the burning questions or issues for you at this company... ( I 'm sure you can come up with something workable ) .
If you 're going to do it face-to-face - perhaps see if corporate can sponsor some beer and pizza !
If online - tool selection could be an important success factor - choose something simple to start with and then you can maybe leave tool selection up to the sub-groups if they 've formed .
One of my roles is to train people in facilitating online groups .
I lead online programmes that bring together people from around the world together to learn about the art of group facilitation online and to engage in a range of online software tools : http : //www.zenergyglobal.com/of/ [ zenergyglobal.com ] I get people blogging , skyping , video conferencing and facilitating each other in Second Life .
It 's amazing how creative groups of people can get when they are given some choices and a bonded and aligned organization is so much more effective , resilient and responsive to change .
Best wishes for your community development calling .
Stephen</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may have tapped into a theme that is a commonly growing one - our workplaces are certainly changing.
I find these days that they people in them are more transient, more multi-cultural, more multi-generational and more and more the work and conversations are mediated through the power of internet technologies.
I'm a big fan of the use of storytelling to build the depth of community it sounds you are hoping to develop in your organization.
Interestingly enough storytelling can be just as effective online in building teams and deepening group relationships.
I've recently done a PhD on the topic looking at a range of online software tools:
http://hdl.handle.net/10292/778 [handle.net]

You may find the 5.0 findings chapter may be useful as well as some of the process guidelines in chapter 6.
Storytelling is a really useful for people to establish their identity, to share values and beliefs and to create a collective sense of one another.
It creates real possibility for groups of people - particularly for those who are struggling to form cohesively face-to-face online.
I'd recommend that you have a go at bringing a group of people together - online or face-to-face - inviting them to get to know their company colleagues and that you're aiming at building more community in the company.
If you get a lot of people responding then I'd suggest you form them into sub-groups of 6-8.
Get them to assign a time keeper in each group and give them 30-40 minutes to respond to a 'focus question' or statement.
something like "Sharing a learning from a previous career and how it now helps you in your current role in the company; sharing a key learning from your worst job or worst failure; share a dream for the future; conquering a challenge; share what are the burning questions or issues for you at this company... (I'm sure you can come up with something workable).
If you're going to do it face-to-face - perhaps see if corporate can sponsor some beer and pizza!
If online - tool selection could be an important success factor - choose something simple to start with and then you can maybe leave tool selection up to the sub-groups if they've formed.
One of my roles is to train people in facilitating online groups.
I lead online programmes that bring together people from around the world together to learn about the art of group facilitation online and to engage in a range of online software tools:
http://www.zenergyglobal.com/of/ [zenergyglobal.com]

I get people blogging, skyping, video conferencing and facilitating each other in Second Life.
It's amazing how creative groups of people can get when they are given some choices and a bonded and aligned organization is so much more effective, resilient and responsive to change.
Best wishes for your community development calling.
Stephen</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966868</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264858260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You should hear what Africans (at least the educated ones with english accents) say about American Blacks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You should hear what Africans ( at least the educated ones with english accents ) say about American Blacks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should hear what Africans (at least the educated ones with english accents) say about American Blacks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966550</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966700</id>
	<title>I also recommend...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264856640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>buying a company Sybian to sit atop the conference room table, and asking all female employees if they'd care to ride it during each meeting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>buying a company Sybian to sit atop the conference room table , and asking all female employees if they 'd care to ride it during each meeting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>buying a company Sybian to sit atop the conference room table, and asking all female employees if they'd care to ride it during each meeting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966468</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30976076</id>
	<title>Building Community</title>
	<author>ResidentSourcerer</author>
	<datestamp>1264947000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Community is hard.</p><p>1.  Have a coffee lounge, not just a place to get coffee.  You want a place where people can stop for 20 minutes and chill.</p><p>2.  Make the hallways 4 feet wide.  This means that if two people talk in the hall, anyone coming down the hall has to join the conversation, or shove them out of the way.</p><p>3.  One place I worked brought in Pizza for lunch one day a week.</p><p>4.  Mix up the offices.  Don't let all the developers live in one corner, and all the HR people live in another.    Move everyone once a year.</p><p>5.  Provide day care on site.  This will help get family people talking to eachother.</p><p>6.  Move the company location to a neighborhood, then engage in taking over the neighborhood.  Your goal:  Everyone who wishes can live withing walking distance to work.</p><p>7..  Sponsor a company X team where X is one or more of {curling, bowling, softball}</p><p>8.  Make sure your social networking software is set up so people can coordinate non-company activities.  E.g. can I use the social network to find a canoe partner.</p><p>9.  Friday after work is pub night.  Company buys the first round.  Pick a pub that is quiet enough for conversation.</p><p>10.  A bulletin board with everyone's photo and name on it.  This allows you to actually learn everyone's name if you wish.  (You have a crib sheet.)</p><p>11.  Encourage personal web pages for people to talk about their own interests.</p><p>12.  Sponsor a bunch of activities each summer, with the company picking up part of the tab.   These can either be family oriented, or team oriented.  E.g. I'll take you down the McFarlane River in voyageur canoes.  Three weeks.  Nothing like carrying a 22 foot canoe to build team spirit.  Or take all the assistant VP's rock climbing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Community is hard.1 .
Have a coffee lounge , not just a place to get coffee .
You want a place where people can stop for 20 minutes and chill.2 .
Make the hallways 4 feet wide .
This means that if two people talk in the hall , anyone coming down the hall has to join the conversation , or shove them out of the way.3 .
One place I worked brought in Pizza for lunch one day a week.4 .
Mix up the offices .
Do n't let all the developers live in one corner , and all the HR people live in another .
Move everyone once a year.5 .
Provide day care on site .
This will help get family people talking to eachother.6 .
Move the company location to a neighborhood , then engage in taking over the neighborhood .
Your goal : Everyone who wishes can live withing walking distance to work.7.. Sponsor a company X team where X is one or more of { curling , bowling , softball } 8 .
Make sure your social networking software is set up so people can coordinate non-company activities .
E.g. can I use the social network to find a canoe partner.9 .
Friday after work is pub night .
Company buys the first round .
Pick a pub that is quiet enough for conversation.10 .
A bulletin board with everyone 's photo and name on it .
This allows you to actually learn everyone 's name if you wish .
( You have a crib sheet. ) 11 .
Encourage personal web pages for people to talk about their own interests.12 .
Sponsor a bunch of activities each summer , with the company picking up part of the tab .
These can either be family oriented , or team oriented .
E.g. I 'll take you down the McFarlane River in voyageur canoes .
Three weeks .
Nothing like carrying a 22 foot canoe to build team spirit .
Or take all the assistant VP 's rock climbing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Community is hard.1.
Have a coffee lounge, not just a place to get coffee.
You want a place where people can stop for 20 minutes and chill.2.
Make the hallways 4 feet wide.
This means that if two people talk in the hall, anyone coming down the hall has to join the conversation, or shove them out of the way.3.
One place I worked brought in Pizza for lunch one day a week.4.
Mix up the offices.
Don't let all the developers live in one corner, and all the HR people live in another.
Move everyone once a year.5.
Provide day care on site.
This will help get family people talking to eachother.6.
Move the company location to a neighborhood, then engage in taking over the neighborhood.
Your goal:  Everyone who wishes can live withing walking distance to work.7..  Sponsor a company X team where X is one or more of {curling, bowling, softball}8.
Make sure your social networking software is set up so people can coordinate non-company activities.
E.g. can I use the social network to find a canoe partner.9.
Friday after work is pub night.
Company buys the first round.
Pick a pub that is quiet enough for conversation.10.
A bulletin board with everyone's photo and name on it.
This allows you to actually learn everyone's name if you wish.
(You have a crib sheet.)11.
Encourage personal web pages for people to talk about their own interests.12.
Sponsor a bunch of activities each summer, with the company picking up part of the tab.
These can either be family oriented, or team oriented.
E.g. I'll take you down the McFarlane River in voyageur canoes.
Three weeks.
Nothing like carrying a 22 foot canoe to build team spirit.
Or take all the assistant VP's rock climbing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30986628</id>
	<title>Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265017740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree, technology is not what brings people together like this. It's actual social interaction, even if you then just talk about technology. A communal place for people to bump into each other and have short conversations or try planning a weekly happy-hour night (alcohol is a wonderful social catalyst no matter what the age group).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , technology is not what brings people together like this .
It 's actual social interaction , even if you then just talk about technology .
A communal place for people to bump into each other and have short conversations or try planning a weekly happy-hour night ( alcohol is a wonderful social catalyst no matter what the age group ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, technology is not what brings people together like this.
It's actual social interaction, even if you then just talk about technology.
A communal place for people to bump into each other and have short conversations or try planning a weekly happy-hour night (alcohol is a wonderful social catalyst no matter what the age group).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966960</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967436</id>
	<title>Happy Hour</title>
	<author>revoldub</author>
	<datestamp>1264863480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It works.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966836</id>
	<title>Re:A very high technology idea</title>
	<author>mdf356</author>
	<datestamp>1264858020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or do like at my current workplace: put a keg of beer in the cafeteria.  Friday starting at 4 is beer and chips time.  But sometimes you just need a beer on Tuesday after a hard day...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or do like at my current workplace : put a keg of beer in the cafeteria .
Friday starting at 4 is beer and chips time .
But sometimes you just need a beer on Tuesday after a hard day.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or do like at my current workplace: put a keg of beer in the cafeteria.
Friday starting at 4 is beer and chips time.
But sometimes you just need a beer on Tuesday after a hard day...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966512</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966614</id>
	<title>Thats a lot of autmoated junk email</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264856040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>100+ emails a day from automated checks?  Talk to whomever set these checks up and they surely will help you curtail the flow. I've been in "automated monitoring" for years and usually when people get a lot of email it's because:<br>- The monitoring system performing these checks hasn't been tended to for awhile<br>- People become passive with email alerts because they can filter them into email boxes (ignored or glanced at once a day/week), causing the problem to get worse as time passes because "I get all this email all the time, but I can easily ignore it, so I hardly notice 2x more"<br>- Some people/companies/groups LOVE setting an alert in an automated system and blasting out every alert to an email distribution list because it's easy to maintain....and then people get used to all this junk automated alerts filling up their inboxes...then they filter them/delete them off.<br>- Some people love getting all that spam because they think they're "staying informed" on what's going on.  In reality they just use it as their own personal database when things go south so they aren't the one guy/manager who didn't know there was xyz outage when upper management asks them.</p><p>Having said all that, I would say to have all these alerts be posted on something "central" that all of IT (and management) can just look at whenever they want to know what's going on with the systems when something arises.  If they're willing to use it, that *might* quickly bring everyone together/up to speed, at least when things go south, and keep some sort of communal feel that everyone is supporting the "entire company" as opposed to "my stuff, which is always the most important".  It could keep the junk mail down as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>100 + emails a day from automated checks ?
Talk to whomever set these checks up and they surely will help you curtail the flow .
I 've been in " automated monitoring " for years and usually when people get a lot of email it 's because : - The monitoring system performing these checks has n't been tended to for awhile- People become passive with email alerts because they can filter them into email boxes ( ignored or glanced at once a day/week ) , causing the problem to get worse as time passes because " I get all this email all the time , but I can easily ignore it , so I hardly notice 2x more " - Some people/companies/groups LOVE setting an alert in an automated system and blasting out every alert to an email distribution list because it 's easy to maintain....and then people get used to all this junk automated alerts filling up their inboxes...then they filter them/delete them off.- Some people love getting all that spam because they think they 're " staying informed " on what 's going on .
In reality they just use it as their own personal database when things go south so they are n't the one guy/manager who did n't know there was xyz outage when upper management asks them.Having said all that , I would say to have all these alerts be posted on something " central " that all of IT ( and management ) can just look at whenever they want to know what 's going on with the systems when something arises .
If they 're willing to use it , that * might * quickly bring everyone together/up to speed , at least when things go south , and keep some sort of communal feel that everyone is supporting the " entire company " as opposed to " my stuff , which is always the most important " .
It could keep the junk mail down as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>100+ emails a day from automated checks?
Talk to whomever set these checks up and they surely will help you curtail the flow.
I've been in "automated monitoring" for years and usually when people get a lot of email it's because:- The monitoring system performing these checks hasn't been tended to for awhile- People become passive with email alerts because they can filter them into email boxes (ignored or glanced at once a day/week), causing the problem to get worse as time passes because "I get all this email all the time, but I can easily ignore it, so I hardly notice 2x more"- Some people/companies/groups LOVE setting an alert in an automated system and blasting out every alert to an email distribution list because it's easy to maintain....and then people get used to all this junk automated alerts filling up their inboxes...then they filter them/delete them off.- Some people love getting all that spam because they think they're "staying informed" on what's going on.
In reality they just use it as their own personal database when things go south so they aren't the one guy/manager who didn't know there was xyz outage when upper management asks them.Having said all that, I would say to have all these alerts be posted on something "central" that all of IT (and management) can just look at whenever they want to know what's going on with the systems when something arises.
If they're willing to use it, that *might* quickly bring everyone together/up to speed, at least when things go south, and keep some sort of communal feel that everyone is supporting the "entire company" as opposed to "my stuff, which is always the most important".
It could keep the junk mail down as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966596</id>
	<title>Older Guy</title>
	<author>stokessd</author>
	<datestamp>1264855920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As an older guy in your scenario (40ish), I'd have to say that I don't want to socialize more with most of my co-workers unless there is a charge number in it.  As with the rest of life my desire to be around my co-workers follows the 80/20 rule.  In this case, about 80\% of my co-workers should not be near me without a charge-number.</p><p>Sheldon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As an older guy in your scenario ( 40ish ) , I 'd have to say that I do n't want to socialize more with most of my co-workers unless there is a charge number in it .
As with the rest of life my desire to be around my co-workers follows the 80/20 rule .
In this case , about 80 \ % of my co-workers should not be near me without a charge-number.Sheldon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an older guy in your scenario (40ish), I'd have to say that I don't want to socialize more with most of my co-workers unless there is a charge number in it.
As with the rest of life my desire to be around my co-workers follows the 80/20 rule.
In this case, about 80\% of my co-workers should not be near me without a charge-number.Sheldon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967426</id>
	<title>Re:Its simple,</title>
	<author>Anrego</author>
	<datestamp>1264863360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This got modded funny.. but you actually nailed it on the head!</p><p>It's been my experience that "inner-office communication tools" generally don't get used.. or if they do.. it's because people are forced to use them.</p><p>You're doing it backwards.. people seek out tools when they need to communicate.. they don't communicate because tools are provided.</p><p>What you need is an area where people will tend to "bump into each other"..</p><p>Like a water cooler.. or a kitchen.. or if you want to go extreme.. even a little room with chairs and maybe a pool table where people can get away from their work for a few minutes.</p><p>You might also want to get some "silly office game" type stuff going. Have a white board somewhere where people post math problems.. word problems.. or whatever. AND don't formalize it.. don't write a web app to keep track of it.. just stick a white board up with some markers and an eraser near by and write "rock songs NOT about girls, drugs, or rock n` roll:". This kind of thing regulates itself. When people get tired ot the topic.. someone will erase it and put a new one.. some will last days.. some will last hours.. great "ice breaker".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This got modded funny.. but you actually nailed it on the head ! It 's been my experience that " inner-office communication tools " generally do n't get used.. or if they do.. it 's because people are forced to use them.You 're doing it backwards.. people seek out tools when they need to communicate.. they do n't communicate because tools are provided.What you need is an area where people will tend to " bump into each other " ..Like a water cooler.. or a kitchen.. or if you want to go extreme.. even a little room with chairs and maybe a pool table where people can get away from their work for a few minutes.You might also want to get some " silly office game " type stuff going .
Have a white board somewhere where people post math problems.. word problems.. or whatever .
AND do n't formalize it.. do n't write a web app to keep track of it.. just stick a white board up with some markers and an eraser near by and write " rock songs NOT about girls , drugs , or rock n ` roll : " .
This kind of thing regulates itself .
When people get tired ot the topic.. someone will erase it and put a new one.. some will last days.. some will last hours.. great " ice breaker " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This got modded funny.. but you actually nailed it on the head!It's been my experience that "inner-office communication tools" generally don't get used.. or if they do.. it's because people are forced to use them.You're doing it backwards.. people seek out tools when they need to communicate.. they don't communicate because tools are provided.What you need is an area where people will tend to "bump into each other"..Like a water cooler.. or a kitchen.. or if you want to go extreme.. even a little room with chairs and maybe a pool table where people can get away from their work for a few minutes.You might also want to get some "silly office game" type stuff going.
Have a white board somewhere where people post math problems.. word problems.. or whatever.
AND don't formalize it.. don't write a web app to keep track of it.. just stick a white board up with some markers and an eraser near by and write "rock songs NOT about girls, drugs, or rock n` roll:".
This kind of thing regulates itself.
When people get tired ot the topic.. someone will erase it and put a new one.. some will last days.. some will last hours.. great "ice breaker".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967980</id>
	<title>Yuck</title>
	<author>Ralph Spoilsport</author>
	<datestamp>1264871220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I never wanted to be "part of the group" at work. I always wanted to go do my job, have a few pleasant if not funny conversations with people while I worked with them, and then go home and forget about them and work and the rest of the nightmare. when they would have these "team building exercises" I would usually find some way to get out of going or doing it, such as calling in sick or fucking something up that would "require my attention".
<p>
The ONLY time I would do the "team building thing" would be if it involved free and copious amounts of booze and/or food. Otherwise - fuck it. I got better things to do that to hang out with a bunch of geeks like me.
</p><p>
RS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I never wanted to be " part of the group " at work .
I always wanted to go do my job , have a few pleasant if not funny conversations with people while I worked with them , and then go home and forget about them and work and the rest of the nightmare .
when they would have these " team building exercises " I would usually find some way to get out of going or doing it , such as calling in sick or fucking something up that would " require my attention " .
The ONLY time I would do the " team building thing " would be if it involved free and copious amounts of booze and/or food .
Otherwise - fuck it .
I got better things to do that to hang out with a bunch of geeks like me .
RS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I never wanted to be "part of the group" at work.
I always wanted to go do my job, have a few pleasant if not funny conversations with people while I worked with them, and then go home and forget about them and work and the rest of the nightmare.
when they would have these "team building exercises" I would usually find some way to get out of going or doing it, such as calling in sick or fucking something up that would "require my attention".
The ONLY time I would do the "team building thing" would be if it involved free and copious amounts of booze and/or food.
Otherwise - fuck it.
I got better things to do that to hang out with a bunch of geeks like me.
RS</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967934</id>
	<title>Re:Its simple,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264870800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The water cooler isn't a bad idea, really.</p><p>An idea I tried at a former employer was an "ask us anything hour".</p><p>Some number of IT folks populate the break room or a larger meeting room (to allow for multiple conversations at a time) and take on any and all questions.  From the smallest little "why did it format my text like that?" to "I have this crazy idea that<br>involves technology X, Y, and Z that I saw in a magazine -- what do you think?".</p><p>Hosting this event in a place that allows for a beverage in hand (coffee, soda, etc) and possibly a little treat (peanuts / ice cream bar / etc) tends to relax people by filling their stomach and putting them in a social mood.  A larger room or<br>a room where noise is common (such as a break room) will allow for multiple, small "break-away" conversations in an informal manner.   Let the IT people know that acceptable answers to anyone's questions might be "I'll have to look that up and get back to you" or "to proceed with this idea you'd have to submit it though the XYZ Process for submitting ideas, here's some feedback for doing that".</p><p>As an initial ice-breaker bring something to share first without having it be the forced center of attention.  Example: if there were a lot of help desk calls on formatting text in a word processing document in a particular way, bring a few printed pages which explain how to do it properly which also include a URL to your internal website.  Bring a few of these tidbits just in case people are a bit shy at the start.  Be prepared to not talk about anything you brought as soon as the users figure out they really can ask their own questions.</p><p>Be honest, be able to accept criticism, be prepared to spend a few hours after this meeting finding answers.  Use the questions asked by the users to shape future documentation, help desk, or wiki information.  If possible, post some of the better questions on a website with the answers.</p><p>We had the fortune to be able to use a local cafeteria seating area and to be able to order hot/cold drinks and sit in comfortable chairs.  The environment really does make a difference.</p><p>Our results were not what we had expected!  We mostly answered "why does IT do this or that?" questions!  We did get a number of good ideas which we tried to implement (with varying amounts of success), and we found (in this environment) that mostly the users also wanted us to know what they didn't like even if nothing could be changed about it.  Yes, just listening to someone vent (respectfully) for a bit!</p><p>Variations can also include: submitting questions via a web site beforehand to have answers at said meetings, varying schedules to include all shifts at all hours, and include any satellite sites or remote offices.</p><p>Good Luck!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The water cooler is n't a bad idea , really.An idea I tried at a former employer was an " ask us anything hour " .Some number of IT folks populate the break room or a larger meeting room ( to allow for multiple conversations at a time ) and take on any and all questions .
From the smallest little " why did it format my text like that ?
" to " I have this crazy idea thatinvolves technology X , Y , and Z that I saw in a magazine -- what do you think ?
" .Hosting this event in a place that allows for a beverage in hand ( coffee , soda , etc ) and possibly a little treat ( peanuts / ice cream bar / etc ) tends to relax people by filling their stomach and putting them in a social mood .
A larger room ora room where noise is common ( such as a break room ) will allow for multiple , small " break-away " conversations in an informal manner .
Let the IT people know that acceptable answers to anyone 's questions might be " I 'll have to look that up and get back to you " or " to proceed with this idea you 'd have to submit it though the XYZ Process for submitting ideas , here 's some feedback for doing that " .As an initial ice-breaker bring something to share first without having it be the forced center of attention .
Example : if there were a lot of help desk calls on formatting text in a word processing document in a particular way , bring a few printed pages which explain how to do it properly which also include a URL to your internal website .
Bring a few of these tidbits just in case people are a bit shy at the start .
Be prepared to not talk about anything you brought as soon as the users figure out they really can ask their own questions.Be honest , be able to accept criticism , be prepared to spend a few hours after this meeting finding answers .
Use the questions asked by the users to shape future documentation , help desk , or wiki information .
If possible , post some of the better questions on a website with the answers.We had the fortune to be able to use a local cafeteria seating area and to be able to order hot/cold drinks and sit in comfortable chairs .
The environment really does make a difference.Our results were not what we had expected !
We mostly answered " why does IT do this or that ?
" questions !
We did get a number of good ideas which we tried to implement ( with varying amounts of success ) , and we found ( in this environment ) that mostly the users also wanted us to know what they did n't like even if nothing could be changed about it .
Yes , just listening to someone vent ( respectfully ) for a bit ! Variations can also include : submitting questions via a web site beforehand to have answers at said meetings , varying schedules to include all shifts at all hours , and include any satellite sites or remote offices.Good Luck !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The water cooler isn't a bad idea, really.An idea I tried at a former employer was an "ask us anything hour".Some number of IT folks populate the break room or a larger meeting room (to allow for multiple conversations at a time) and take on any and all questions.
From the smallest little "why did it format my text like that?
" to "I have this crazy idea thatinvolves technology X, Y, and Z that I saw in a magazine -- what do you think?
".Hosting this event in a place that allows for a beverage in hand (coffee, soda, etc) and possibly a little treat (peanuts / ice cream bar / etc) tends to relax people by filling their stomach and putting them in a social mood.
A larger room ora room where noise is common (such as a break room) will allow for multiple, small "break-away" conversations in an informal manner.
Let the IT people know that acceptable answers to anyone's questions might be "I'll have to look that up and get back to you" or "to proceed with this idea you'd have to submit it though the XYZ Process for submitting ideas, here's some feedback for doing that".As an initial ice-breaker bring something to share first without having it be the forced center of attention.
Example: if there were a lot of help desk calls on formatting text in a word processing document in a particular way, bring a few printed pages which explain how to do it properly which also include a URL to your internal website.
Bring a few of these tidbits just in case people are a bit shy at the start.
Be prepared to not talk about anything you brought as soon as the users figure out they really can ask their own questions.Be honest, be able to accept criticism, be prepared to spend a few hours after this meeting finding answers.
Use the questions asked by the users to shape future documentation, help desk, or wiki information.
If possible, post some of the better questions on a website with the answers.We had the fortune to be able to use a local cafeteria seating area and to be able to order hot/cold drinks and sit in comfortable chairs.
The environment really does make a difference.Our results were not what we had expected!
We mostly answered "why does IT do this or that?
" questions!
We did get a number of good ideas which we tried to implement (with varying amounts of success), and we found (in this environment) that mostly the users also wanted us to know what they didn't like even if nothing could be changed about it.
Yes, just listening to someone vent (respectfully) for a bit!Variations can also include: submitting questions via a web site beforehand to have answers at said meetings, varying schedules to include all shifts at all hours, and include any satellite sites or remote offices.Good Luck!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968946</id>
	<title>Re:You're not getting much good counsel, so far...</title>
	<author>styrotech</author>
	<datestamp>1264932060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sheesh... what a tosser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sheesh... what a tosser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sheesh... what a tosser.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968310</id>
	<title>Re:A very high technology idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264876500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another thing that works is having some game(s) that people can play for a little bit each day. I had one job where we had a room that had a pool table and a PS2 hooked into a projector. Every day at around 5:30 or 6:00, many people would gather to play for an hour or so. People not playing amused themselves with either PS2 games or a DVD. Socializing was easier since there was a default conversation topic (the games) which everyone could participate in.</p><p>Not everyone in the company participated, but it was a pretty representative sample from each department. Consequently, there were at least a few people in each department that had contact with other departments and communication between the departments was easier than the other places I've worked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another thing that works is having some game ( s ) that people can play for a little bit each day .
I had one job where we had a room that had a pool table and a PS2 hooked into a projector .
Every day at around 5 : 30 or 6 : 00 , many people would gather to play for an hour or so .
People not playing amused themselves with either PS2 games or a DVD .
Socializing was easier since there was a default conversation topic ( the games ) which everyone could participate in.Not everyone in the company participated , but it was a pretty representative sample from each department .
Consequently , there were at least a few people in each department that had contact with other departments and communication between the departments was easier than the other places I 've worked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another thing that works is having some game(s) that people can play for a little bit each day.
I had one job where we had a room that had a pool table and a PS2 hooked into a projector.
Every day at around 5:30 or 6:00, many people would gather to play for an hour or so.
People not playing amused themselves with either PS2 games or a DVD.
Socializing was easier since there was a default conversation topic (the games) which everyone could participate in.Not everyone in the company participated, but it was a pretty representative sample from each department.
Consequently, there were at least a few people in each department that had contact with other departments and communication between the departments was easier than the other places I've worked.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30991060</id>
	<title>Re:Food and drink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265040060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The parent has some good points.  If you want people to socialise in the office, for very little cost, do some of the food things.</p><p>Free donuts now and then, free cake(s) on special occasions.  e.g. Hey everybody, your co-worker/co-worker's wife/mistress etc. just had a baby !  Celebration cake in the boardroom.<br>If the folks are older you have to think what will engage them.  For the under 30s just emailing everyone "Free pizza in the kitchen" may cause a stampede even if you do it 1 hour after lunch, but for the older crowd, ask what they'd be interested in.  I took a bunch of baking courses at one point and since I can't personally eat 50 croissants/apple tarts, I brought them into the office and sent out an email.  People ate them, commented on them and usually hung around to chat with each other for a while.<br>Heck, our company would order 50 gourmet sandwiches for a meeting with 10 people and then offer the rest up to "the masses" and cause a feeding frenzy.<br>There will always be those who don't want to socialise and if you don't want people like that then hiring people who "fit the team" is going to have to be a priority.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The parent has some good points .
If you want people to socialise in the office , for very little cost , do some of the food things.Free donuts now and then , free cake ( s ) on special occasions .
e.g. Hey everybody , your co-worker/co-worker 's wife/mistress etc .
just had a baby !
Celebration cake in the boardroom.If the folks are older you have to think what will engage them .
For the under 30s just emailing everyone " Free pizza in the kitchen " may cause a stampede even if you do it 1 hour after lunch , but for the older crowd , ask what they 'd be interested in .
I took a bunch of baking courses at one point and since I ca n't personally eat 50 croissants/apple tarts , I brought them into the office and sent out an email .
People ate them , commented on them and usually hung around to chat with each other for a while.Heck , our company would order 50 gourmet sandwiches for a meeting with 10 people and then offer the rest up to " the masses " and cause a feeding frenzy.There will always be those who do n't want to socialise and if you do n't want people like that then hiring people who " fit the team " is going to have to be a priority .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The parent has some good points.
If you want people to socialise in the office, for very little cost, do some of the food things.Free donuts now and then, free cake(s) on special occasions.
e.g. Hey everybody, your co-worker/co-worker's wife/mistress etc.
just had a baby !
Celebration cake in the boardroom.If the folks are older you have to think what will engage them.
For the under 30s just emailing everyone "Free pizza in the kitchen" may cause a stampede even if you do it 1 hour after lunch, but for the older crowd, ask what they'd be interested in.
I took a bunch of baking courses at one point and since I can't personally eat 50 croissants/apple tarts, I brought them into the office and sent out an email.
People ate them, commented on them and usually hung around to chat with each other for a while.Heck, our company would order 50 gourmet sandwiches for a meeting with 10 people and then offer the rest up to "the masses" and cause a feeding frenzy.There will always be those who don't want to socialise and if you don't want people like that then hiring people who "fit the team" is going to have to be a priority.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966510</id>
	<title>Not always a good thing.</title>
	<author>petes\_PoV</author>
	<datestamp>1264855260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have experience of working in a "community spirited" organisation. From the sound of it, it was larger than the one you have. It was terrible.
<p>
Getting a decision made was almost impossible, as *everyone* had to be consulted, included and involved in every department, for every action (or so it felt like) - just in case it would affect them, and so they didn't feel "excluded". However, once you start asking for people's opinions they all feel obliged to offer something, or to make a suggestion, or to ask if you've considered some other (no matter how dumb) alternatives. Whatever answers you give, you end up offending someone.
</p><p>
Better to have a place with a degree of compartmentalisation, but with professionalism and trust so that sometimes or most-times you can <b>JFDI</b> without having to spend 6 months tip-toeing around, trying to build a consensus from people who don't have the depth of specialisation that you have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have experience of working in a " community spirited " organisation .
From the sound of it , it was larger than the one you have .
It was terrible .
Getting a decision made was almost impossible , as * everyone * had to be consulted , included and involved in every department , for every action ( or so it felt like ) - just in case it would affect them , and so they did n't feel " excluded " .
However , once you start asking for people 's opinions they all feel obliged to offer something , or to make a suggestion , or to ask if you 've considered some other ( no matter how dumb ) alternatives .
Whatever answers you give , you end up offending someone .
Better to have a place with a degree of compartmentalisation , but with professionalism and trust so that sometimes or most-times you can JFDI without having to spend 6 months tip-toeing around , trying to build a consensus from people who do n't have the depth of specialisation that you have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have experience of working in a "community spirited" organisation.
From the sound of it, it was larger than the one you have.
It was terrible.
Getting a decision made was almost impossible, as *everyone* had to be consulted, included and involved in every department, for every action (or so it felt like) - just in case it would affect them, and so they didn't feel "excluded".
However, once you start asking for people's opinions they all feel obliged to offer something, or to make a suggestion, or to ask if you've considered some other (no matter how dumb) alternatives.
Whatever answers you give, you end up offending someone.
Better to have a place with a degree of compartmentalisation, but with professionalism and trust so that sometimes or most-times you can JFDI without having to spend 6 months tip-toeing around, trying to build a consensus from people who don't have the depth of specialisation that you have.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30976214</id>
	<title>Re:I know you're trying to be funny, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264948080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked for a company that did something similar. Every Friday at 4:30 was pizza time. Then, when that started getting old each group was tasked with coming up with their own food theme, within a given budget. It got pretty fun and encouraged creative communication. There was cowboy nite with chillie, and a Russian day with vodka (probably not allowed) and other edibles.</p><p>Just task folks with something fun and they'll surprise you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked for a company that did something similar .
Every Friday at 4 : 30 was pizza time .
Then , when that started getting old each group was tasked with coming up with their own food theme , within a given budget .
It got pretty fun and encouraged creative communication .
There was cowboy nite with chillie , and a Russian day with vodka ( probably not allowed ) and other edibles.Just task folks with something fun and they 'll surprise you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked for a company that did something similar.
Every Friday at 4:30 was pizza time.
Then, when that started getting old each group was tasked with coming up with their own food theme, within a given budget.
It got pretty fun and encouraged creative communication.
There was cowboy nite with chillie, and a Russian day with vodka (probably not allowed) and other edibles.Just task folks with something fun and they'll surprise you.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30976718</id>
	<title>Re:Food and drink</title>
	<author>decipher\_saint</author>
	<datestamp>1264952580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A word of caution; make sure you're whole company is in on this or you develop a rift.</p><p>The company I work at has a couple of offsite offices for more intimate client support, everyone back in the main office has beer Friday et al, but the rest of us drabs have to keep the wheels turning with our clients. Resentment begins to grow between the people in the field toward those back in the main office.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A word of caution ; make sure you 're whole company is in on this or you develop a rift.The company I work at has a couple of offsite offices for more intimate client support , everyone back in the main office has beer Friday et al , but the rest of us drabs have to keep the wheels turning with our clients .
Resentment begins to grow between the people in the field toward those back in the main office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A word of caution; make sure you're whole company is in on this or you develop a rift.The company I work at has a couple of offsite offices for more intimate client support, everyone back in the main office has beer Friday et al, but the rest of us drabs have to keep the wheels turning with our clients.
Resentment begins to grow between the people in the field toward those back in the main office.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30966428</id>
	<title>For chemists</title>
	<author>penguinoid</author>
	<datestamp>1264854480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For chemists, solutions are things that are all mixed up!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For chemists , solutions are things that are all mixed up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For chemists, solutions are things that are all mixed up!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30968044</id>
	<title>Re:environment</title>
	<author>AbRASiON</author>
	<datestamp>1264872120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's pretty obvious to me you're no manager of any kind, what kind of response is this! ", dress codes for people that never face clients,"<br>Logic? In the management of an IT business? Surely not<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's pretty obvious to me you 're no manager of any kind , what kind of response is this !
" , dress codes for people that never face clients , " Logic ?
In the management of an IT business ?
Surely not : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's pretty obvious to me you're no manager of any kind, what kind of response is this!
", dress codes for people that never face clients,"Logic?
In the management of an IT business?
Surely not :(</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Job security</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264861260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Older workers know the game<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the younger ones are still naive about what lays ahead.</p></div><p>Actually, I think the younger ones are the less naive ones. Most of the sharp young cookies I know expect to have "promoted themselves" by going to a different company in 2 years. They're not expecting be be around along enough to form any foolish attachments.</p><p>After all, no one OWES you a job (and vice versa), amiright?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Older workers know the game ... the younger ones are still naive about what lays ahead.Actually , I think the younger ones are the less naive ones .
Most of the sharp young cookies I know expect to have " promoted themselves " by going to a different company in 2 years .
They 're not expecting be be around along enough to form any foolish attachments.After all , no one OWES you a job ( and vice versa ) , amiright ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Older workers know the game ... the younger ones are still naive about what lays ahead.Actually, I think the younger ones are the less naive ones.
Most of the sharp young cookies I know expect to have "promoted themselves" by going to a different company in 2 years.
They're not expecting be be around along enough to form any foolish attachments.After all, no one OWES you a job (and vice versa), amiright?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_2245207.30967668</id>
	<title>Manuary!</title>
	<author>RingDev</author>
	<datestamp>1264866840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For January this year most of the guys in IT grew full beards. Much to the dismay of our wifes and girl friends, it was a funny way to bond with our coworkers over the month.</p><p>We also have a number of other cross-IT social activities, some of us play WoW together, others are on bowling, soccer, or volley ball leagues together, and we even have a few RPGers. Not everyone bonds with everyone, but we've got enough cross chatter that the teams are meshing really well. It is by far one of the best social atmospheres I've worked in thus far in my career.</p><p>-Rick</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For January this year most of the guys in IT grew full beards .
Much to the dismay of our wifes and girl friends , it was a funny way to bond with our coworkers over the month.We also have a number of other cross-IT social activities , some of us play WoW together , others are on bowling , soccer , or volley ball leagues together , and we even have a few RPGers .
Not everyone bonds with everyone , but we 've got enough cross chatter that the teams are meshing really well .
It is by far one of the best social atmospheres I 've worked in thus far in my career.-Rick</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For January this year most of the guys in IT grew full beards.
Much to the dismay of our wifes and girl friends, it was a funny way to bond with our coworkers over the month.We also have a number of other cross-IT social activities, some of us play WoW together, others are on bowling, soccer, or volley ball leagues together, and we even have a few RPGers.
Not everyone bonds with everyone, but we've got enough cross chatter that the teams are meshing really well.
It is by far one of the best social atmospheres I've worked in thus far in my career.-Rick</sentencetext>
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