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	<title>Gates Foundation Plans To Invest $10B Into Vaccines</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1264759680000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Endloser writes <i>"Bill Gates is going to <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/01/29/davos.bill.gates.donates/index.html">invest $10 billion to provide vaccines</a> to people worldwide.  The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation believes that vaccines are the way to a better future for the world.  So they have decided to make 'the largest pledge ever made by a charitable foundation to a single cause.'  This 10-year, 10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million lives."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Endloser writes " Bill Gates is going to invest $ 10 billion to provide vaccines to people worldwide .
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation believes that vaccines are the way to a better future for the world .
So they have decided to make 'the largest pledge ever made by a charitable foundation to a single cause .
' This 10-year , 10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million lives .
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<sentencetext>Endloser writes "Bill Gates is going to invest $10 billion to provide vaccines to people worldwide.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation believes that vaccines are the way to a better future for the world.
So they have decided to make 'the largest pledge ever made by a charitable foundation to a single cause.
'  This 10-year, 10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million lives.
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	<title>Even more unusual is Bill Gates stopping viruses.</title>
	<author>mattcsn</author>
	<datestamp>1264781640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't he generally associated with the opposite situation?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't he generally associated with the opposite situation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't he generally associated with the opposite situation?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.31001724</id>
	<title>Re:Morally good, but long term bad?</title>
	<author>cybernanga</author>
	<datestamp>1265108100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you give people the opportunity to earn a reasonable living by working in a factory, instead of having to rely on a small piece of dry infertile land, they will have more of a disposable income, which they will spend on their own health.</p><p>
Having live in Africa for more than 2 decades, I can honestly tell you that most people know, understand and desire the benefits of small families, education and good healthcare. Unfortunately, many are caught in a poverty trap.</p><p>
People have several children as an insurance policy. Not only are they ensuring that their genes are passed on, but they want/need the children as a workforce for their unproductive land, and also in the hope that there will be someone to look after them when they are old and frail. There is also the hope that one or more of the children will beat all odds, and make a success of themselves by becoming a doctor or teacher etc. as having one of those in the family will drastically improve the lives of the whole family. This has the effect of keeping the majority of people below the poverty line.</p><p>
Additionally, while it might sound silly, if either husband and wife is away at work all day, AND they have some form of entertainment for the evenings, they will generally have fewer children, as having an actual disposable income makes one think about what to spend it on, and that often influences the decisions one makes about how many children to have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you give people the opportunity to earn a reasonable living by working in a factory , instead of having to rely on a small piece of dry infertile land , they will have more of a disposable income , which they will spend on their own health .
Having live in Africa for more than 2 decades , I can honestly tell you that most people know , understand and desire the benefits of small families , education and good healthcare .
Unfortunately , many are caught in a poverty trap .
People have several children as an insurance policy .
Not only are they ensuring that their genes are passed on , but they want/need the children as a workforce for their unproductive land , and also in the hope that there will be someone to look after them when they are old and frail .
There is also the hope that one or more of the children will beat all odds , and make a success of themselves by becoming a doctor or teacher etc .
as having one of those in the family will drastically improve the lives of the whole family .
This has the effect of keeping the majority of people below the poverty line .
Additionally , while it might sound silly , if either husband and wife is away at work all day , AND they have some form of entertainment for the evenings , they will generally have fewer children , as having an actual disposable income makes one think about what to spend it on , and that often influences the decisions one makes about how many children to have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you give people the opportunity to earn a reasonable living by working in a factory, instead of having to rely on a small piece of dry infertile land, they will have more of a disposable income, which they will spend on their own health.
Having live in Africa for more than 2 decades, I can honestly tell you that most people know, understand and desire the benefits of small families, education and good healthcare.
Unfortunately, many are caught in a poverty trap.
People have several children as an insurance policy.
Not only are they ensuring that their genes are passed on, but they want/need the children as a workforce for their unproductive land, and also in the hope that there will be someone to look after them when they are old and frail.
There is also the hope that one or more of the children will beat all odds, and make a success of themselves by becoming a doctor or teacher etc.
as having one of those in the family will drastically improve the lives of the whole family.
This has the effect of keeping the majority of people below the poverty line.
Additionally, while it might sound silly, if either husband and wife is away at work all day, AND they have some form of entertainment for the evenings, they will generally have fewer children, as having an actual disposable income makes one think about what to spend it on, and that often influences the decisions one makes about how many children to have.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30958884</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264781520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Contrary to popular belief, 'FDA Testing' is fucking trivial.  Its not NEARLY as expensive as they'd like for you to think it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Contrary to popular belief , 'FDA Testing ' is fucking trivial .
Its not NEARLY as expensive as they 'd like for you to think it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Contrary to popular belief, 'FDA Testing' is fucking trivial.
Its not NEARLY as expensive as they'd like for you to think it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956708</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>Rennt</author>
	<datestamp>1264766580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>/facepalm. Okay, maybe if I included more information in my original post it wouldn't have been modded into oblivion - but the thing is I'm SURE we have discussed this extensively before.</p><p>Anyway, see my <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1530320&amp;cid=30956340" title="slashdot.org">other</a> [slashdot.org] post.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>/facepalm .
Okay , maybe if I included more information in my original post it would n't have been modded into oblivion - but the thing is I 'm SURE we have discussed this extensively before.Anyway , see my other [ slashdot.org ] post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/facepalm.
Okay, maybe if I included more information in my original post it wouldn't have been modded into oblivion - but the thing is I'm SURE we have discussed this extensively before.Anyway, see my other [slashdot.org] post.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957050</id>
	<title>Re:Morally good, but long term bad?</title>
	<author>nawitus</author>
	<datestamp>1264768560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The only true and long term solution to poverty is industrialisation. You simply can't "build factories" and think industrialisation happens magically. You need to think a way to make Africa a better place to invest than China/India. And that will be really difficult. The wage difference is not large, China has really good education system, and China is quite stable politically and has reasonable infrastructure.

So, the more money is used to make investing more viable in the Africa, the less problems there will be. Luckily, every year as China is getting more wealthy, the wages are also increasing. That makes Africa a better place since it will have cheaper workers. Of course, to be precise, industrialisation is already happening in different places in Africa. But progress will take a long time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only true and long term solution to poverty is industrialisation .
You simply ca n't " build factories " and think industrialisation happens magically .
You need to think a way to make Africa a better place to invest than China/India .
And that will be really difficult .
The wage difference is not large , China has really good education system , and China is quite stable politically and has reasonable infrastructure .
So , the more money is used to make investing more viable in the Africa , the less problems there will be .
Luckily , every year as China is getting more wealthy , the wages are also increasing .
That makes Africa a better place since it will have cheaper workers .
Of course , to be precise , industrialisation is already happening in different places in Africa .
But progress will take a long time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only true and long term solution to poverty is industrialisation.
You simply can't "build factories" and think industrialisation happens magically.
You need to think a way to make Africa a better place to invest than China/India.
And that will be really difficult.
The wage difference is not large, China has really good education system, and China is quite stable politically and has reasonable infrastructure.
So, the more money is used to make investing more viable in the Africa, the less problems there will be.
Luckily, every year as China is getting more wealthy, the wages are also increasing.
That makes Africa a better place since it will have cheaper workers.
Of course, to be precise, industrialisation is already happening in different places in Africa.
But progress will take a long time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956744</id>
	<title>Re:The project is not neccessary</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1264766760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But if they attach wings to all those sharks, won't we have a problem even more severe than malaria spreading mosquitoes?  Unless those are friendly sharks I fail to see the logic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But if they attach wings to all those sharks , wo n't we have a problem even more severe than malaria spreading mosquitoes ?
Unless those are friendly sharks I fail to see the logic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But if they attach wings to all those sharks, won't we have a problem even more severe than malaria spreading mosquitoes?
Unless those are friendly sharks I fail to see the logic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957680</id>
	<title>simply not enough, but..</title>
	<author>Weezul</author>
	<datestamp>1264771980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.. he could obviously start a non-profit health insurance provider like Blue Cross with minimal initial funding.  If it's plans were comparatively simple, then it'll have less overhead and cost less than other health insurance providers, and thus force them to lower prices too.  I'd say however his real reason for not doing this is simple though :</p><p>America is n<br>If the American people cannot vote themselves a healthcare plan, then let them suffer &amp; die from lack of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.. he could obviously start a non-profit health insurance provider like Blue Cross with minimal initial funding .
If it 's plans were comparatively simple , then it 'll have less overhead and cost less than other health insurance providers , and thus force them to lower prices too .
I 'd say however his real reason for not doing this is simple though : America is nIf the American people can not vote themselves a healthcare plan , then let them suffer &amp; die from lack of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. he could obviously start a non-profit health insurance provider like Blue Cross with minimal initial funding.
If it's plans were comparatively simple, then it'll have less overhead and cost less than other health insurance providers, and thus force them to lower prices too.
I'd say however his real reason for not doing this is simple though :America is nIf the American people cannot vote themselves a healthcare plan, then let them suffer &amp; die from lack of it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956758</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264766820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you forgive me for not mincing words, Bill Gates is still a slimy little douche, no matter how much money he's spending, and here's why.</p><p>The gist of it is that the money he's spending is stolen, basically. He made it through illegal means, took it from people like you and me, and I don't give a fuck how much of it he's gonna spend on charity now: it's still stolen.</p><p>I mean, if somebody literally broke into your house, stole a thousand bucks, and then donated 500 to charity while keeping 500 for himself, would you cheer him on and call him a hero?</p><p>And don't forget that Gates isn't even going to any lengths: he's simply donating money he couldn't possibly spend, anyway. He's got everything he could ever want to buy, and he'll continue to be able to get everything he could ever want to buy. At least normal people who donate money will actually feel it, even if it's just a little bit; donating money you can't possibly miss in the first place is easy.</p><p>And let's not forget what he's doing here: he's not interested in charity, he merely figured out that there's something he wants that he can't outright buy, namely popularity. He's already famous, of course, but most people won't think of him as a "hero", so he's trying to change that. And it seems like it worked on you, too. Who says there's things money can't buy?</p><p>Of course, all that said, I won't deny that the money itself isn't bad: pecunia non olet. But make no mistake about Gates himself: he's no hero. He's a high-profile white-collar criminal who's stolen an insane amount of money and who's now using part of it to buy the hearts of the people he stole from, all the while still living a life of incredible luxury. I fail to see what's so heroic about that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you forgive me for not mincing words , Bill Gates is still a slimy little douche , no matter how much money he 's spending , and here 's why.The gist of it is that the money he 's spending is stolen , basically .
He made it through illegal means , took it from people like you and me , and I do n't give a fuck how much of it he 's gon na spend on charity now : it 's still stolen.I mean , if somebody literally broke into your house , stole a thousand bucks , and then donated 500 to charity while keeping 500 for himself , would you cheer him on and call him a hero ? And do n't forget that Gates is n't even going to any lengths : he 's simply donating money he could n't possibly spend , anyway .
He 's got everything he could ever want to buy , and he 'll continue to be able to get everything he could ever want to buy .
At least normal people who donate money will actually feel it , even if it 's just a little bit ; donating money you ca n't possibly miss in the first place is easy.And let 's not forget what he 's doing here : he 's not interested in charity , he merely figured out that there 's something he wants that he ca n't outright buy , namely popularity .
He 's already famous , of course , but most people wo n't think of him as a " hero " , so he 's trying to change that .
And it seems like it worked on you , too .
Who says there 's things money ca n't buy ? Of course , all that said , I wo n't deny that the money itself is n't bad : pecunia non olet .
But make no mistake about Gates himself : he 's no hero .
He 's a high-profile white-collar criminal who 's stolen an insane amount of money and who 's now using part of it to buy the hearts of the people he stole from , all the while still living a life of incredible luxury .
I fail to see what 's so heroic about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you forgive me for not mincing words, Bill Gates is still a slimy little douche, no matter how much money he's spending, and here's why.The gist of it is that the money he's spending is stolen, basically.
He made it through illegal means, took it from people like you and me, and I don't give a fuck how much of it he's gonna spend on charity now: it's still stolen.I mean, if somebody literally broke into your house, stole a thousand bucks, and then donated 500 to charity while keeping 500 for himself, would you cheer him on and call him a hero?And don't forget that Gates isn't even going to any lengths: he's simply donating money he couldn't possibly spend, anyway.
He's got everything he could ever want to buy, and he'll continue to be able to get everything he could ever want to buy.
At least normal people who donate money will actually feel it, even if it's just a little bit; donating money you can't possibly miss in the first place is easy.And let's not forget what he's doing here: he's not interested in charity, he merely figured out that there's something he wants that he can't outright buy, namely popularity.
He's already famous, of course, but most people won't think of him as a "hero", so he's trying to change that.
And it seems like it worked on you, too.
Who says there's things money can't buy?Of course, all that said, I won't deny that the money itself isn't bad: pecunia non olet.
But make no mistake about Gates himself: he's no hero.
He's a high-profile white-collar criminal who's stolen an insane amount of money and who's now using part of it to buy the hearts of the people he stole from, all the while still living a life of incredible luxury.
I fail to see what's so heroic about that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956276</id>
	<title>Re:Big Pharma won't like this...</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1264764840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pharma milks treating rich world's chronic diseases, not the sorts afflicting developing world in subtropics because there is no money in it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pharma milks treating rich world 's chronic diseases , not the sorts afflicting developing world in subtropics because there is no money in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pharma milks treating rich world's chronic diseases, not the sorts afflicting developing world in subtropics because there is no money in it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956070</id>
	<title>Great news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I find it hard to believe that people criticize this. What have you done for those people there is what I would like to know?

As 'the' human race we should be ashamed that people still die of malaria. If Gates can fix that then Gates is a hero in my book.

I don't like his software company and I might not even like the person Gates, but come on people... this is just awesome.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it hard to believe that people criticize this .
What have you done for those people there is what I would like to know ?
As 'the ' human race we should be ashamed that people still die of malaria .
If Gates can fix that then Gates is a hero in my book .
I do n't like his software company and I might not even like the person Gates , but come on people... this is just awesome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it hard to believe that people criticize this.
What have you done for those people there is what I would like to know?
As 'the' human race we should be ashamed that people still die of malaria.
If Gates can fix that then Gates is a hero in my book.
I don't like his software company and I might not even like the person Gates, but come on people... this is just awesome.</sentencetext>
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	<title>kdawson's version</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Bill Gates is going to force $10 billion down poor people's throats, forcing them to get vaccines, some people believe are the cause of Autism and other diseases.  The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation believes that forcing vaccines onto the poor is way to a better future for Microsoft. So they have decided to make 'the largest effort ever made by a clearly corporate steered foundation to a capture millions of new customers' This 10 year, 10 billion dollar project is expected to add 8.7 Million into Microsoft depenceny."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Bill Gates is going to force $ 10 billion down poor people 's throats , forcing them to get vaccines , some people believe are the cause of Autism and other diseases .
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation believes that forcing vaccines onto the poor is way to a better future for Microsoft .
So they have decided to make 'the largest effort ever made by a clearly corporate steered foundation to a capture millions of new customers ' This 10 year , 10 billion dollar project is expected to add 8.7 Million into Microsoft depenceny .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Bill Gates is going to force $10 billion down poor people's throats, forcing them to get vaccines, some people believe are the cause of Autism and other diseases.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation believes that forcing vaccines onto the poor is way to a better future for Microsoft.
So they have decided to make 'the largest effort ever made by a clearly corporate steered foundation to a capture millions of new customers' This 10 year, 10 billion dollar project is expected to add 8.7 Million into Microsoft depenceny.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30960410</id>
	<title>DEVELOPMENT</title>
	<author>aCC</author>
	<datestamp>1264842600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guys/ Gals, GET THIS:</p><p> <b>Development of countries is fucking hard! NOBODY knows a solution so far!</b> </p><p>So, it is useless to go on and on about how he should spend his money on X, Y or Z "because that will solve all problems". <b>No, it WON'T!</b> It might improve something or it might not.</p><p>There are hundreds of thousands of people working in the development sector trying to find a solution to help the poorer world develop. And many things have been tried and will be tried, but it is like democracy: there is no clear way how to develop it in a country, so that it works long term. Lots of ideas around, but no proven solution anywhere.</p><p>Therefore people like Gates giving his money (however wrong you think he got it) to help in a certain way (small or big) is <b>GOOD</b>. Or would you prefer him to keep it in his bank account and accumulate stupidly high interest each year? He should spend it as much as he can to spread it around.</p><p>&lt;/rant&gt;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guys/ Gals , GET THIS : Development of countries is fucking hard !
NOBODY knows a solution so far !
So , it is useless to go on and on about how he should spend his money on X , Y or Z " because that will solve all problems " .
No , it WO N'T !
It might improve something or it might not.There are hundreds of thousands of people working in the development sector trying to find a solution to help the poorer world develop .
And many things have been tried and will be tried , but it is like democracy : there is no clear way how to develop it in a country , so that it works long term .
Lots of ideas around , but no proven solution anywhere.Therefore people like Gates giving his money ( however wrong you think he got it ) to help in a certain way ( small or big ) is GOOD .
Or would you prefer him to keep it in his bank account and accumulate stupidly high interest each year ?
He should spend it as much as he can to spread it around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guys/ Gals, GET THIS: Development of countries is fucking hard!
NOBODY knows a solution so far!
So, it is useless to go on and on about how he should spend his money on X, Y or Z "because that will solve all problems".
No, it WON'T!
It might improve something or it might not.There are hundreds of thousands of people working in the development sector trying to find a solution to help the poorer world develop.
And many things have been tried and will be tried, but it is like democracy: there is no clear way how to develop it in a country, so that it works long term.
Lots of ideas around, but no proven solution anywhere.Therefore people like Gates giving his money (however wrong you think he got it) to help in a certain way (small or big) is GOOD.
Or would you prefer him to keep it in his bank account and accumulate stupidly high interest each year?
He should spend it as much as he can to spread it around.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:why use that 10b to give all americans health c</title>
	<author>Waffle Iron</author>
	<datestamp>1264765320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>why use that 10b to give all Americans health care?</p></div><p>Because the current US healthcare system is a form of feudalism, where the serfs (workers with at least one family member not in perfect health) find it hard or impossible to leave the protection of their lords (large companies). This lack of mobility and reduced freedom of choice drives down prevailing wages in the job market, and it makes it much harder for potential competitors to start new small companies.</p><p>Few have benefited from this situation more than Mr. Gates, so I doubt that he's going to make any big moves to change the status quo.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>why use that 10b to give all Americans health care ? Because the current US healthcare system is a form of feudalism , where the serfs ( workers with at least one family member not in perfect health ) find it hard or impossible to leave the protection of their lords ( large companies ) .
This lack of mobility and reduced freedom of choice drives down prevailing wages in the job market , and it makes it much harder for potential competitors to start new small companies.Few have benefited from this situation more than Mr. Gates , so I doubt that he 's going to make any big moves to change the status quo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why use that 10b to give all Americans health care?Because the current US healthcare system is a form of feudalism, where the serfs (workers with at least one family member not in perfect health) find it hard or impossible to leave the protection of their lords (large companies).
This lack of mobility and reduced freedom of choice drives down prevailing wages in the job market, and it makes it much harder for potential competitors to start new small companies.Few have benefited from this situation more than Mr. Gates, so I doubt that he's going to make any big moves to change the status quo.
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	<title>Re:Birth Control</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264763640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A population of old people supported by a few young workers isn't going to be particularly viable either. It's a balancing act.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A population of old people supported by a few young workers is n't going to be particularly viable either .
It 's a balancing act .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A population of old people supported by a few young workers isn't going to be particularly viable either.
It's a balancing act.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956860</id>
	<title>Re:Big Pharma won't like this...</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1264767480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Big Pharma" doesn't exist except in people's imaginations.  What exists is a bunch of competing companies, not some uniform group out to screw the rest of us.<br> <br>
Whatever company comes up with the pill that removes all disease from people will make that company billions of dollars.  Every other pharmaceutical company will go out of business? Would you really worry about that if you were going to make billions of dollars?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Big Pharma " does n't exist except in people 's imaginations .
What exists is a bunch of competing companies , not some uniform group out to screw the rest of us .
Whatever company comes up with the pill that removes all disease from people will make that company billions of dollars .
Every other pharmaceutical company will go out of business ?
Would you really worry about that if you were going to make billions of dollars ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Big Pharma" doesn't exist except in people's imaginations.
What exists is a bunch of competing companies, not some uniform group out to screw the rest of us.
Whatever company comes up with the pill that removes all disease from people will make that company billions of dollars.
Every other pharmaceutical company will go out of business?
Would you really worry about that if you were going to make billions of dollars?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957960</id>
	<title>Patents are relevant</title>
	<author>Weezul</author>
	<datestamp>1264773660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If his $10 billion buys way less thanks to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIPS" title="wikipedia.org">TRIPS</a> [wikipedia.org] and/or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting\_Trade\_Agreement" title="wikipedia.org">ACTA</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><p>A few other good causes :  Invest money into the pharmaceutical industries in countries like Brazil that have shown their willingness to break intellectual property treaties when people's lives are at stake.  A cheaper and more charitable approach might be endowing biotechnology professorships with this stated goal at the best medical schools in these countries.  A more political approach might be lobbying the European Union to pass legislation saying that generic drug manufacturers may violate patents for exported drugs to third world countries when the number of lives saved would be significant.   Just oppose ACTA and/or try to roll back TRIPS --- ACTA will kill people.</p><p>I suggest that you read about the history of the fight against AIDS.  If Brazil had not stood up against the U.S. and said "We will make anti-retrovirals ourselves if you don't sell them at a fraction of the cost", then incredible numbers of Brazilians would have died, and millions more would have died in other developing countries that currently benefit from Brazil's hard nose negotiation.</p><p>p.s. I do think all the people criticizing how he earned his money are being disingenuous.  Gate's only sins are : robbing other rich people of their smart employees, selling poor quality software, and lobbying for bad copyright laws.  Do you even want to think about what Exxon does with your gas money?  Federal government with your tax money?  (Iraq)  etc.  You don't see Dick Channey out running charity organizations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If his $ 10 billion buys way less thanks to TRIPS [ wikipedia.org ] and/or ACTA [ wikipedia.org ] .A few other good causes : Invest money into the pharmaceutical industries in countries like Brazil that have shown their willingness to break intellectual property treaties when people 's lives are at stake .
A cheaper and more charitable approach might be endowing biotechnology professorships with this stated goal at the best medical schools in these countries .
A more political approach might be lobbying the European Union to pass legislation saying that generic drug manufacturers may violate patents for exported drugs to third world countries when the number of lives saved would be significant .
Just oppose ACTA and/or try to roll back TRIPS --- ACTA will kill people.I suggest that you read about the history of the fight against AIDS .
If Brazil had not stood up against the U.S. and said " We will make anti-retrovirals ourselves if you do n't sell them at a fraction of the cost " , then incredible numbers of Brazilians would have died , and millions more would have died in other developing countries that currently benefit from Brazil 's hard nose negotiation.p.s .
I do think all the people criticizing how he earned his money are being disingenuous .
Gate 's only sins are : robbing other rich people of their smart employees , selling poor quality software , and lobbying for bad copyright laws .
Do you even want to think about what Exxon does with your gas money ?
Federal government with your tax money ?
( Iraq ) etc .
You do n't see Dick Channey out running charity organizations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If his $10 billion buys way less thanks to TRIPS [wikipedia.org] and/or ACTA [wikipedia.org].A few other good causes :  Invest money into the pharmaceutical industries in countries like Brazil that have shown their willingness to break intellectual property treaties when people's lives are at stake.
A cheaper and more charitable approach might be endowing biotechnology professorships with this stated goal at the best medical schools in these countries.
A more political approach might be lobbying the European Union to pass legislation saying that generic drug manufacturers may violate patents for exported drugs to third world countries when the number of lives saved would be significant.
Just oppose ACTA and/or try to roll back TRIPS --- ACTA will kill people.I suggest that you read about the history of the fight against AIDS.
If Brazil had not stood up against the U.S. and said "We will make anti-retrovirals ourselves if you don't sell them at a fraction of the cost", then incredible numbers of Brazilians would have died, and millions more would have died in other developing countries that currently benefit from Brazil's hard nose negotiation.p.s.
I do think all the people criticizing how he earned his money are being disingenuous.
Gate's only sins are : robbing other rich people of their smart employees, selling poor quality software, and lobbying for bad copyright laws.
Do you even want to think about what Exxon does with your gas money?
Federal government with your tax money?
(Iraq)  etc.
You don't see Dick Channey out running charity organizations.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30958730</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>dbIII</author>
	<datestamp>1264780320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It isn't as simple as you suggest either.  There is serious price gouging.<br>For example there's a vaccine to prevent cervical cancer developed in Australia with taxpayers money, and tested to full US standards approval with Australian taxpayers money.  The right to manufacture it in the USA was sold at a very low price but people in the USA pay far more for it than anyone else.  In that case a very tiny fraction of the R&amp;D cost is added to the manufacturing cost.  On top of that is a vast amount of profit.<br>It's not about getting back the R&amp;D costs, sometimes it's about having a government enforced monopoly where you can charge whatever people will pay.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is n't as simple as you suggest either .
There is serious price gouging.For example there 's a vaccine to prevent cervical cancer developed in Australia with taxpayers money , and tested to full US standards approval with Australian taxpayers money .
The right to manufacture it in the USA was sold at a very low price but people in the USA pay far more for it than anyone else .
In that case a very tiny fraction of the R&amp;D cost is added to the manufacturing cost .
On top of that is a vast amount of profit.It 's not about getting back the R&amp;D costs , sometimes it 's about having a government enforced monopoly where you can charge whatever people will pay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It isn't as simple as you suggest either.
There is serious price gouging.For example there's a vaccine to prevent cervical cancer developed in Australia with taxpayers money, and tested to full US standards approval with Australian taxpayers money.
The right to manufacture it in the USA was sold at a very low price but people in the USA pay far more for it than anyone else.
In that case a very tiny fraction of the R&amp;D cost is added to the manufacturing cost.
On top of that is a vast amount of profit.It's not about getting back the R&amp;D costs, sometimes it's about having a government enforced monopoly where you can charge whatever people will pay.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30960528</id>
	<title>Re:$10B, 8.7M lives saved = $1149 per life</title>
	<author>drsquare</author>
	<datestamp>1264844340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that the third world is more capable of building its own sewers than it is developing its own malaria vaccines. Ancient civilisations managed sanitation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that the third world is more capable of building its own sewers than it is developing its own malaria vaccines .
Ancient civilisations managed sanitation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that the third world is more capable of building its own sewers than it is developing its own malaria vaccines.
Ancient civilisations managed sanitation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956168</id>
	<title>vaccines against virus's from Bill Gates?</title>
	<author>Locutus</author>
	<datestamp>1264764360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He failed at providing a virus immune system in the computer industry so maybe he thinks if he does it in the medical field people will forget about the other failure? In the medical field, it has been proven to work so another failure is unlikely unless people start cutting of the arms where the shots were administered, That'll come later when the Windows logo starts showing up on peoples foreheads.<br><br>I'm just looking for a connection to computers and technology here since I didn't see he was helping fund new research, just passing out what's already been done. Nice but why post that in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.?<br><br>LoB</htmltext>
<tokenext>He failed at providing a virus immune system in the computer industry so maybe he thinks if he does it in the medical field people will forget about the other failure ?
In the medical field , it has been proven to work so another failure is unlikely unless people start cutting of the arms where the shots were administered , That 'll come later when the Windows logo starts showing up on peoples foreheads.I 'm just looking for a connection to computers and technology here since I did n't see he was helping fund new research , just passing out what 's already been done .
Nice but why post that in / .
? LoB</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He failed at providing a virus immune system in the computer industry so maybe he thinks if he does it in the medical field people will forget about the other failure?
In the medical field, it has been proven to work so another failure is unlikely unless people start cutting of the arms where the shots were administered, That'll come later when the Windows logo starts showing up on peoples foreheads.I'm just looking for a connection to computers and technology here since I didn't see he was helping fund new research, just passing out what's already been done.
Nice but why post that in /.
?LoB</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956986</id>
	<title>Re:If Gates had imagination or vision...</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1264768260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do you think actual AI could do that? We are actually intelligent and we have a hard time doing it.<br>Fucking idiots that think AI is some sort of magical djinn</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do you think actual AI could do that ?
We are actually intelligent and we have a hard time doing it.Fucking idiots that think AI is some sort of magical djinn</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do you think actual AI could do that?
We are actually intelligent and we have a hard time doing it.Fucking idiots that think AI is some sort of magical djinn</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956940</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264767960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you're suggesting that your excessively litigious society is the natural order of things, and the rest of the world should suffer as a result.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you 're suggesting that your excessively litigious society is the natural order of things , and the rest of the world should suffer as a result .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you're suggesting that your excessively litigious society is the natural order of things, and the rest of the world should suffer as a result.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956242</id>
	<title>Insightful? No, non-sequiter</title>
	<author>spun</author>
	<datestamp>1264764720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another non-viable approach: an ever growing population of any sort, in an environment of limited resources.<br>You know what else wouldn't be viable? A population of old people supported by NINJA-PANDAS!!!</p><p>What does your comment have to do with markdavis's comment? He never said, 'we need to reduce the population through birth control' which is what you seem to be implying. As long as people have a little over a kid apiece on average, there's no problem. People die at every age, and so with replacement rate breeding, there will still be more young people than old people.</p><p>Besides, with more old people, there will be more old-people medicine for <a href="http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clips/old-glory-insurance/229049/" title="nbc.com">robots to use as fuel.</a> [nbc.com] The robots can support the old people, because they're made of metal, and robots are strong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another non-viable approach : an ever growing population of any sort , in an environment of limited resources.You know what else would n't be viable ?
A population of old people supported by NINJA-PANDAS ! !
! What does your comment have to do with markdavis 's comment ?
He never said , 'we need to reduce the population through birth control ' which is what you seem to be implying .
As long as people have a little over a kid apiece on average , there 's no problem .
People die at every age , and so with replacement rate breeding , there will still be more young people than old people.Besides , with more old people , there will be more old-people medicine for robots to use as fuel .
[ nbc.com ] The robots can support the old people , because they 're made of metal , and robots are strong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another non-viable approach: an ever growing population of any sort, in an environment of limited resources.You know what else wouldn't be viable?
A population of old people supported by NINJA-PANDAS!!
!What does your comment have to do with markdavis's comment?
He never said, 'we need to reduce the population through birth control' which is what you seem to be implying.
As long as people have a little over a kid apiece on average, there's no problem.
People die at every age, and so with replacement rate breeding, there will still be more young people than old people.Besides, with more old people, there will be more old-people medicine for robots to use as fuel.
[nbc.com] The robots can support the old people, because they're made of metal, and robots are strong.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957508</id>
	<title>Borg logo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264770960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why doesn't this get the Borg logo? Gates is putting money down for injecting stuff into people. That deserves the Borg logo!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does n't this get the Borg logo ?
Gates is putting money down for injecting stuff into people .
That deserves the Borg logo !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why doesn't this get the Borg logo?
Gates is putting money down for injecting stuff into people.
That deserves the Borg logo!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957366</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>Jiro</author>
	<datestamp>1264770120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are basing this on several fallacies.
<br> <br>
First of all, the fallacy that you can refuse the vaccine.  You can refuse to <i>take</i> the vaccine, but if you think that the vaccine's bad effects outweigh its good effects, you can't refuse the whole package consisting of both the good and bad effects.  It's not possible to say "I'm refusing to improve my health with this vaccine, but I also refuse to cause the damage caused by Microsoft's support of patent laws".  Of course, if it was possible to say that, then you should refuse, but it's not, and the damage becomes a sunk cost, which you should logically ignore at the point you're choosing to take the vaccine.
<br> <br>
Second, the fact that Microsoft does things while harming others floods the market and keeps out other people who might do it without harming others.  That printer which Microsoft helped bring to market wasn't really <i>helped</i> by Microsoft--if Microsoft hadn't been there, someone else would have done so without hurting people as much.  You can't refuse to use the printer <i>and</i> un-flood the market so that you can buy a non-Microsoft-influenced printer--once again, you can only refuse the good parts, not refuse the entire bad deal (consisting of both good and bad parts).</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are basing this on several fallacies .
First of all , the fallacy that you can refuse the vaccine .
You can refuse to take the vaccine , but if you think that the vaccine 's bad effects outweigh its good effects , you ca n't refuse the whole package consisting of both the good and bad effects .
It 's not possible to say " I 'm refusing to improve my health with this vaccine , but I also refuse to cause the damage caused by Microsoft 's support of patent laws " .
Of course , if it was possible to say that , then you should refuse , but it 's not , and the damage becomes a sunk cost , which you should logically ignore at the point you 're choosing to take the vaccine .
Second , the fact that Microsoft does things while harming others floods the market and keeps out other people who might do it without harming others .
That printer which Microsoft helped bring to market was n't really helped by Microsoft--if Microsoft had n't been there , someone else would have done so without hurting people as much .
You ca n't refuse to use the printer and un-flood the market so that you can buy a non-Microsoft-influenced printer--once again , you can only refuse the good parts , not refuse the entire bad deal ( consisting of both good and bad parts ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are basing this on several fallacies.
First of all, the fallacy that you can refuse the vaccine.
You can refuse to take the vaccine, but if you think that the vaccine's bad effects outweigh its good effects, you can't refuse the whole package consisting of both the good and bad effects.
It's not possible to say "I'm refusing to improve my health with this vaccine, but I also refuse to cause the damage caused by Microsoft's support of patent laws".
Of course, if it was possible to say that, then you should refuse, but it's not, and the damage becomes a sunk cost, which you should logically ignore at the point you're choosing to take the vaccine.
Second, the fact that Microsoft does things while harming others floods the market and keeps out other people who might do it without harming others.
That printer which Microsoft helped bring to market wasn't really helped by Microsoft--if Microsoft hadn't been there, someone else would have done so without hurting people as much.
You can't refuse to use the printer and un-flood the market so that you can buy a non-Microsoft-influenced printer--once again, you can only refuse the good parts, not refuse the entire bad deal (consisting of both good and bad parts).</sentencetext>
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	<title>saving for no future</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1264769280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Saving lifes - but for what? I hate to be so negative on something that people consider as holy as the virgin Mary, but fact is that of the estimated 8.7 mio. saved, about 8 mio. will then have a life, but no future. Or more correctly: A future of starvation, oppression, war and misery.</p><p>More importantly, a life where high birthrates and high child mortality are the norm, and where they will create another 20 or so million to experience the same misery.</p><p>Wouldn't it be much smarter to put this money into improving the future of those people, even at the price of less saved lifes? It's not exactly the case that underpopulation would be a rampant problem on this planet, you know? We have too few ressources too badly distributed among too many people way more often than we have too many people and don't know where to spread the wealth.</p><p>In short: How about giving people a <b>life</b> instead of just bodily existence?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Saving lifes - but for what ?
I hate to be so negative on something that people consider as holy as the virgin Mary , but fact is that of the estimated 8.7 mio .
saved , about 8 mio .
will then have a life , but no future .
Or more correctly : A future of starvation , oppression , war and misery.More importantly , a life where high birthrates and high child mortality are the norm , and where they will create another 20 or so million to experience the same misery.Would n't it be much smarter to put this money into improving the future of those people , even at the price of less saved lifes ?
It 's not exactly the case that underpopulation would be a rampant problem on this planet , you know ?
We have too few ressources too badly distributed among too many people way more often than we have too many people and do n't know where to spread the wealth.In short : How about giving people a life instead of just bodily existence ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saving lifes - but for what?
I hate to be so negative on something that people consider as holy as the virgin Mary, but fact is that of the estimated 8.7 mio.
saved, about 8 mio.
will then have a life, but no future.
Or more correctly: A future of starvation, oppression, war and misery.More importantly, a life where high birthrates and high child mortality are the norm, and where they will create another 20 or so million to experience the same misery.Wouldn't it be much smarter to put this money into improving the future of those people, even at the price of less saved lifes?
It's not exactly the case that underpopulation would be a rampant problem on this planet, you know?
We have too few ressources too badly distributed among too many people way more often than we have too many people and don't know where to spread the wealth.In short: How about giving people a life instead of just bodily existence?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957708</id>
	<title>Population, pollution and climate change</title>
	<author>cdrguru</author>
	<datestamp>1264772100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are a lot of reasons why we should be focusing on reducing the population - and sick people are one way the population gets smaller.  Even better with contagious diseases because the benefits are spread around (literally) by the sick people.</p><p>Vaccines are something that are of a benefit when there are too few people and we need to build up the labor pool.  Sorry, in the US 20\% of the people will never work again in their lives and will need to be supported one way or another by the other 80\%.  It is worse in Europe.</p><p>India has a million people with most of them living in rural areas on poor diets with no sanitation. If Bill Gates spent 10 billion dollars on toilets in India it would begin to make a difference there, but just barely.</p><p>The level of pollution is a direct result of the population.  Pollution wasn't much of a problem in 1200 AD, now was it?  There were maybe 2 million people in all of Europe at that time.  The theory is that resource utilization is leading to climate change - reduce the population and this will reduce resource utilization.</p><p>According to some theories, we have maybe 50 years left of natual resources for 6 billion people on the planet.  If tomorrow you woke up and there were 500 million people instead, this would mean that everything would last for 600 years instead of just 50.  Since we aren't going to be going offplanet to get anything, we better start thinking about the current crop of children are going to survive in 50 years.  If we don't, they maybe they won't and we are looking at the last generation of humans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are a lot of reasons why we should be focusing on reducing the population - and sick people are one way the population gets smaller .
Even better with contagious diseases because the benefits are spread around ( literally ) by the sick people.Vaccines are something that are of a benefit when there are too few people and we need to build up the labor pool .
Sorry , in the US 20 \ % of the people will never work again in their lives and will need to be supported one way or another by the other 80 \ % .
It is worse in Europe.India has a million people with most of them living in rural areas on poor diets with no sanitation .
If Bill Gates spent 10 billion dollars on toilets in India it would begin to make a difference there , but just barely.The level of pollution is a direct result of the population .
Pollution was n't much of a problem in 1200 AD , now was it ?
There were maybe 2 million people in all of Europe at that time .
The theory is that resource utilization is leading to climate change - reduce the population and this will reduce resource utilization.According to some theories , we have maybe 50 years left of natual resources for 6 billion people on the planet .
If tomorrow you woke up and there were 500 million people instead , this would mean that everything would last for 600 years instead of just 50 .
Since we are n't going to be going offplanet to get anything , we better start thinking about the current crop of children are going to survive in 50 years .
If we do n't , they maybe they wo n't and we are looking at the last generation of humans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are a lot of reasons why we should be focusing on reducing the population - and sick people are one way the population gets smaller.
Even better with contagious diseases because the benefits are spread around (literally) by the sick people.Vaccines are something that are of a benefit when there are too few people and we need to build up the labor pool.
Sorry, in the US 20\% of the people will never work again in their lives and will need to be supported one way or another by the other 80\%.
It is worse in Europe.India has a million people with most of them living in rural areas on poor diets with no sanitation.
If Bill Gates spent 10 billion dollars on toilets in India it would begin to make a difference there, but just barely.The level of pollution is a direct result of the population.
Pollution wasn't much of a problem in 1200 AD, now was it?
There were maybe 2 million people in all of Europe at that time.
The theory is that resource utilization is leading to climate change - reduce the population and this will reduce resource utilization.According to some theories, we have maybe 50 years left of natual resources for 6 billion people on the planet.
If tomorrow you woke up and there were 500 million people instead, this would mean that everything would last for 600 years instead of just 50.
Since we aren't going to be going offplanet to get anything, we better start thinking about the current crop of children are going to survive in 50 years.
If we don't, they maybe they won't and we are looking at the last generation of humans.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957288</id>
	<title>$1149 per life saved seems inefficient</title>
	<author>EMB Numbers</author>
	<datestamp>1264769820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>$10B / 8.7M is $1,149 per life saved which seems inefficient for vaccines.  I would think that $3 per person for personal mosquito nets and $9 per person for standard childhood vaccines would save more than 8.7M lives.  Clean drinking water would help a lot.  How much would that cost per person?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 10B / 8.7M is $ 1,149 per life saved which seems inefficient for vaccines .
I would think that $ 3 per person for personal mosquito nets and $ 9 per person for standard childhood vaccines would save more than 8.7M lives .
Clean drinking water would help a lot .
How much would that cost per person ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$10B / 8.7M is $1,149 per life saved which seems inefficient for vaccines.
I would think that $3 per person for personal mosquito nets and $9 per person for standard childhood vaccines would save more than 8.7M lives.
Clean drinking water would help a lot.
How much would that cost per person?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956706</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>johncadengo</author>
	<datestamp>1264766580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, indeed. Curing malaria <i>is</i> awesome.</p><p>But allow me to borrow from Cornel West in his reaction to the Gates Foundation, "It's charity, it's not justice."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , indeed .
Curing malaria is awesome.But allow me to borrow from Cornel West in his reaction to the Gates Foundation , " It 's charity , it 's not justice .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, indeed.
Curing malaria is awesome.But allow me to borrow from Cornel West in his reaction to the Gates Foundation, "It's charity, it's not justice.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30960366</id>
	<title>Tagged "public health"?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264842060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ha! More like private wealth! It's all patented for the next 100 years or so. And the prices will be astronomical.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ha !
More like private wealth !
It 's all patented for the next 100 years or so .
And the prices will be astronomical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ha!
More like private wealth!
It's all patented for the next 100 years or so.
And the prices will be astronomical.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956892</id>
	<title>Re:$10B, 8.7M lives saved = $1149 per life</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264767660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't want to deride what is a very nice gesture by the Gates family, but I have to admit I would have thought vaccine initiatives would have yielded a more favorable lives saved per dollar that that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't want to deride what is a very nice gesture by the Gates family , but I have to admit I would have thought vaccine initiatives would have yielded a more favorable lives saved per dollar that that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't want to deride what is a very nice gesture by the Gates family, but I have to admit I would have thought vaccine initiatives would have yielded a more favorable lives saved per dollar that that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957110</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264768920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Internet armchair quarterbacks are the best.  Most of these people will do nothing in their lives that approaches the amount of help and assistance Bill and Melinda Gates have given to people in need.  Most of these people will give a MINUSCULE amount of money to charity compared to the 10 BILLION dollars they are spending  (if they give to charity at all).</p><p>But they are more than happy to criticize and try to portray it as something negative.</p><p>You could combine all of the charity assistance these people have given (in monetary or nonmonetary forms) and you would not even come close to approaching a fraction of what Bill Gates has done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Internet armchair quarterbacks are the best .
Most of these people will do nothing in their lives that approaches the amount of help and assistance Bill and Melinda Gates have given to people in need .
Most of these people will give a MINUSCULE amount of money to charity compared to the 10 BILLION dollars they are spending ( if they give to charity at all ) .But they are more than happy to criticize and try to portray it as something negative.You could combine all of the charity assistance these people have given ( in monetary or nonmonetary forms ) and you would not even come close to approaching a fraction of what Bill Gates has done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Internet armchair quarterbacks are the best.
Most of these people will do nothing in their lives that approaches the amount of help and assistance Bill and Melinda Gates have given to people in need.
Most of these people will give a MINUSCULE amount of money to charity compared to the 10 BILLION dollars they are spending  (if they give to charity at all).But they are more than happy to criticize and try to portray it as something negative.You could combine all of the charity assistance these people have given (in monetary or nonmonetary forms) and you would not even come close to approaching a fraction of what Bill Gates has done.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956402</id>
	<title>And how many lives did his TRIPS cost?</title>
	<author>H4x0r Jim Duggan</author>
	<datestamp>1264765320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's good that a portion of his ill-gotten gains will save some lives, but it's tragic that so many more people are dying because access to medicine is blocked by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIPS" title="wikipedia.org">TRIPS</a> [wikipedia.org] agreement that Gates and friends pushed through.</p><p>This donation mustn't be let overshadow the harm.  If it's let, then more such harm will be accepted in the future.</p><p>(ACTA is the modern TRIPS.  We can still stop it.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's good that a portion of his ill-gotten gains will save some lives , but it 's tragic that so many more people are dying because access to medicine is blocked by the TRIPS [ wikipedia.org ] agreement that Gates and friends pushed through.This donation must n't be let overshadow the harm .
If it 's let , then more such harm will be accepted in the future .
( ACTA is the modern TRIPS .
We can still stop it .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's good that a portion of his ill-gotten gains will save some lives, but it's tragic that so many more people are dying because access to medicine is blocked by the TRIPS [wikipedia.org] agreement that Gates and friends pushed through.This donation mustn't be let overshadow the harm.
If it's let, then more such harm will be accepted in the future.
(ACTA is the modern TRIPS.
We can still stop it.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956756</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>vivaelamor</author>
	<datestamp>1264766820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't believe hero status is bought so cheap these days. Perhaps if his kind weren't so greedy in the first place then average person might be in a better position to do something themselves.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe hero status is bought so cheap these days .
Perhaps if his kind were n't so greedy in the first place then average person might be in a better position to do something themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe hero status is bought so cheap these days.
Perhaps if his kind weren't so greedy in the first place then average person might be in a better position to do something themselves.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30980122</id>
	<title>They all suck</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1265035320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All the big pharma companies suck, and here is why...<br>&gt;This 10-year, 10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million lives<br>Why???<br>10billion should at least get 10billion vaccines, if not more, why would it cost more then a buck, for third world countries to get<br>medication when there is a plan out there for third world countries to pay the manufacturing cost only,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....the fact that Bill and his wife are donating the money, means they pay full price even though the medication is going to the third world countries...???</p><p>This is just more proof that the meds these companies are pushing are over priced as it is. And now the next generation is even more expensive, and they discontinue previous generation, not because that generation is better, or has more effectiveness but because they get to charge more. Insurance, Pharma and Oil are the biggest greediest companies amongst us, with government coming in after them. Government is justified for running a country though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All the big pharma companies suck , and here is why... &gt; This 10-year , 10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million livesWhy ? ?
? 10billion should at least get 10billion vaccines , if not more , why would it cost more then a buck , for third world countries to getmedication when there is a plan out there for third world countries to pay the manufacturing cost only , ....the fact that Bill and his wife are donating the money , means they pay full price even though the medication is going to the third world countries... ? ?
? This is just more proof that the meds these companies are pushing are over priced as it is .
And now the next generation is even more expensive , and they discontinue previous generation , not because that generation is better , or has more effectiveness but because they get to charge more .
Insurance , Pharma and Oil are the biggest greediest companies amongst us , with government coming in after them .
Government is justified for running a country though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the big pharma companies suck, and here is why...&gt;This 10-year, 10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million livesWhy??
?10billion should at least get 10billion vaccines, if not more, why would it cost more then a buck, for third world countries to getmedication when there is a plan out there for third world countries to pay the manufacturing cost only, ....the fact that Bill and his wife are donating the money, means they pay full price even though the medication is going to the third world countries...??
?This is just more proof that the meds these companies are pushing are over priced as it is.
And now the next generation is even more expensive, and they discontinue previous generation, not because that generation is better, or has more effectiveness but because they get to charge more.
Insurance, Pharma and Oil are the biggest greediest companies amongst us, with government coming in after them.
Government is justified for running a country though.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956574</id>
	<title>Re:Big Pharma won't like this...</title>
	<author>bit9</author>
	<datestamp>1264765980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was wondering how long it would take for someone to use the phrase "Big Pharma" . At least you didn't go off on the whole autism spiel. I'm getting really tired of hearing that one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was wondering how long it would take for someone to use the phrase " Big Pharma " .
At least you did n't go off on the whole autism spiel .
I 'm getting really tired of hearing that one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was wondering how long it would take for someone to use the phrase "Big Pharma" .
At least you didn't go off on the whole autism spiel.
I'm getting really tired of hearing that one.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30958454</id>
	<title>Will it be an antidote for Win Vista?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264777680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now that would generate revenue!  Uncle Bill has a penchant for digesting things into games.  How will this one work?  If its truly a "donation" then he should expect to renumeration nor pin-action from his donation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now that would generate revenue !
Uncle Bill has a penchant for digesting things into games .
How will this one work ?
If its truly a " donation " then he should expect to renumeration nor pin-action from his donation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now that would generate revenue!
Uncle Bill has a penchant for digesting things into games.
How will this one work?
If its truly a "donation" then he should expect to renumeration nor pin-action from his donation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956206</id>
	<title>Re:The project is not neccessary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why use lasers when you can use a mosquito net?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why use lasers when you can use a mosquito net ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why use lasers when you can use a mosquito net?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30958608</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.</title>
	<author>ajlisows</author>
	<datestamp>1264779120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.....Or they are coming up with better things to do with that money.  "Build sanitation", "Fund US Health care", "Administer IQ tests at birth, sterilize the stupid".  Hey!  Guess what?  When you have $10 Billion that you want to give to society, you are free to choose the way in which you feel it would be best used.</p><p>I don't necessarily care for Bill Gates or some of his company's past (and present) practices. I'm guessing that if I spent an entire day with him, I'd feel compelled to punch him in the face on several occasions.   Guess what?  I still have to applaud him for doing something to try to change the world for the better.  I have to wonder...this being Slashdot.....what would the comments be like if Linus Torvalds had donated a large sum of money to vaccinations?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.....Or they are coming up with better things to do with that money .
" Build sanitation " , " Fund US Health care " , " Administer IQ tests at birth , sterilize the stupid " .
Hey ! Guess what ?
When you have $ 10 Billion that you want to give to society , you are free to choose the way in which you feel it would be best used.I do n't necessarily care for Bill Gates or some of his company 's past ( and present ) practices .
I 'm guessing that if I spent an entire day with him , I 'd feel compelled to punch him in the face on several occasions .
Guess what ?
I still have to applaud him for doing something to try to change the world for the better .
I have to wonder...this being Slashdot.....what would the comments be like if Linus Torvalds had donated a large sum of money to vaccinations ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.....Or they are coming up with better things to do with that money.
"Build sanitation", "Fund US Health care", "Administer IQ tests at birth, sterilize the stupid".
Hey!  Guess what?
When you have $10 Billion that you want to give to society, you are free to choose the way in which you feel it would be best used.I don't necessarily care for Bill Gates or some of his company's past (and present) practices.
I'm guessing that if I spent an entire day with him, I'd feel compelled to punch him in the face on several occasions.
Guess what?
I still have to applaud him for doing something to try to change the world for the better.
I have to wonder...this being Slashdot.....what would the comments be like if Linus Torvalds had donated a large sum of money to vaccinations?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956682</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>stimpleton</author>
	<datestamp>1264766460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Gates can fix that then Gates is a hero in my book. I don't like his software company and I might not even like the person Gates, but come on people... this is just awesome.</i>
<br> <br>And Gates dances a happy jig as he hears of the peoples reception to his plan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gates can fix that then Gates is a hero in my book .
I do n't like his software company and I might not even like the person Gates , but come on people... this is just awesome .
And Gates dances a happy jig as he hears of the peoples reception to his plan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gates can fix that then Gates is a hero in my book.
I don't like his software company and I might not even like the person Gates, but come on people... this is just awesome.
And Gates dances a happy jig as he hears of the peoples reception to his plan.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957736</id>
	<title>Re:$10B, 8.7M lives saved = $1149 per life</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264772280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>$1149 seems like a pretty solid number to me.  Consider that the $/person is likely much lower than that, as certainly not everyone getting a vaccine would have otherwise died from preventable disease.</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 1149 seems like a pretty solid number to me .
Consider that the $ /person is likely much lower than that , as certainly not everyone getting a vaccine would have otherwise died from preventable disease .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$1149 seems like a pretty solid number to me.
Consider that the $/person is likely much lower than that, as certainly not everyone getting a vaccine would have otherwise died from preventable disease.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956304</id>
	<title>Re:Birth Control</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1264765020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A population of old people supported by a few young workers isn't going to be particularly viable either. It's a balancing act.</p></div><p>Hence why you're supposed to save and take care of yourself.  If you didn't have a society built on taking from the young and giving to the old, it wouldn't be an issue at all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A population of old people supported by a few young workers is n't going to be particularly viable either .
It 's a balancing act.Hence why you 're supposed to save and take care of yourself .
If you did n't have a society built on taking from the young and giving to the old , it would n't be an issue at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A population of old people supported by a few young workers isn't going to be particularly viable either.
It's a balancing act.Hence why you're supposed to save and take care of yourself.
If you didn't have a society built on taking from the young and giving to the old, it wouldn't be an issue at all.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956386</id>
	<title>Re:The project is not neccessary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264765260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A low cost alternative to the laser system would be the good old bug zapper.  I'm sure the Gates could afford to throw a few of them in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A low cost alternative to the laser system would be the good old bug zapper .
I 'm sure the Gates could afford to throw a few of them in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A low cost alternative to the laser system would be the good old bug zapper.
I'm sure the Gates could afford to throw a few of them in.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956362</id>
	<title>Re:Big Pharma won't like this...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264765140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uh who do you think is going to receive this so-called 'charitable donation'? Big Pharma wins either way...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh who do you think is going to receive this so-called 'charitable donation ' ?
Big Pharma wins either way.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh who do you think is going to receive this so-called 'charitable donation'?
Big Pharma wins either way...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956952</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264768020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody said it wasn't a profoundly generous act, it's just misguided.  He could make a greater impact by funding education and awareness.  There really are millions of people who have no clue they can spread HIV by having unprotected sex... why spend billions of dollars on research to kill the weed when it would be more effective to kill the root?</p><p>For that matter, where in the hell is all this money going?  $1100 per projected life saved?  That's easily four years of high school education for a student in the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody said it was n't a profoundly generous act , it 's just misguided .
He could make a greater impact by funding education and awareness .
There really are millions of people who have no clue they can spread HIV by having unprotected sex... why spend billions of dollars on research to kill the weed when it would be more effective to kill the root ? For that matter , where in the hell is all this money going ?
$ 1100 per projected life saved ?
That 's easily four years of high school education for a student in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody said it wasn't a profoundly generous act, it's just misguided.
He could make a greater impact by funding education and awareness.
There really are millions of people who have no clue they can spread HIV by having unprotected sex... why spend billions of dollars on research to kill the weed when it would be more effective to kill the root?For that matter, where in the hell is all this money going?
$1100 per projected life saved?
That's easily four years of high school education for a student in the US.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:why use that 10b to give all americans health c</title>
	<author>TheSync</author>
	<datestamp>1264766280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>why use that 10b to give all Americans health care?</i></p><p>Health care expenditures in the United States on health care surpassed $2.2 trillion in 2007.  $10B would only last 40 hours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why use that 10b to give all Americans health care ? Health care expenditures in the United States on health care surpassed $ 2.2 trillion in 2007 .
$ 10B would only last 40 hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why use that 10b to give all Americans health care?Health care expenditures in the United States on health care surpassed $2.2 trillion in 2007.
$10B would only last 40 hours.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957066</id>
	<title>Re:And how many lives did his TRIPS cost?</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1264768680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know you at all, but one of the things that bugs me about people who criticize big companies for not giving free medicine to developing countries is that they very often do not give anything themselves.  What have you done recently to help poor people (besides trying to force other people to give their hard work away for free).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know you at all , but one of the things that bugs me about people who criticize big companies for not giving free medicine to developing countries is that they very often do not give anything themselves .
What have you done recently to help poor people ( besides trying to force other people to give their hard work away for free ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know you at all, but one of the things that bugs me about people who criticize big companies for not giving free medicine to developing countries is that they very often do not give anything themselves.
What have you done recently to help poor people (besides trying to force other people to give their hard work away for free).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30982384</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265044740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take a @#$\%ing sedative ASAP.  And, please add at least 14 colors to your "sky" palette.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take a @ # $ \ % ing sedative ASAP .
And , please add at least 14 colors to your " sky " palette .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take a @#$\%ing sedative ASAP.
And, please add at least 14 colors to your "sky" palette.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956352</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1264765140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you knew anything about the pharmaceutical industry, you'd know that only a small number of the drugs they try to get approved are in fact approved (which means hundreds of billions lost) so yes, the few that get approved need to cost more to keep the company going.  There's also the fact that those top notch scientists creating the drugs kind of like to get paid....</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you knew anything about the pharmaceutical industry , you 'd know that only a small number of the drugs they try to get approved are in fact approved ( which means hundreds of billions lost ) so yes , the few that get approved need to cost more to keep the company going .
There 's also the fact that those top notch scientists creating the drugs kind of like to get paid... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you knew anything about the pharmaceutical industry, you'd know that only a small number of the drugs they try to get approved are in fact approved (which means hundreds of billions lost) so yes, the few that get approved need to cost more to keep the company going.
There's also the fact that those top notch scientists creating the drugs kind of like to get paid....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957034</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.</title>
	<author>strangelovian</author>
	<datestamp>1264768500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Excuse me sir, but despite your rhetoric, the Western do-gooder imperative to save lives is exactly why there are so many ecological and humanitarian disaster areas on this planet .  Antibiotics, agricultural revolutions and global capitalism do not magically produce sustainable, modern cultures -- more often than not, it destroys them.  When was the last time you visited Port au Prince or Bangladesh?  Simply creating more humans is not an ethical imperative any longer; our planet is in rather obvious overshoot, and the idea of letting more people onto the lifeboat until we all drown is insane.  The idea that we will be able to life billions of people in the third world to a Western standard of living in the face of climate change, ecocide, resource depletion, etc. seems rather fanciful.  If this is your hope, all I can say is, I hope you have a plan B.  If you want to know where this is probably headed, study the history of Easter Island and extrapolate to a global scale.  If someone really wants to be a hero, a clever molecular biologist needs to find a way to humanely reduce the global population back to a sustainable level.  It's either that or uncontrolled die-off, imo.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Excuse me sir , but despite your rhetoric , the Western do-gooder imperative to save lives is exactly why there are so many ecological and humanitarian disaster areas on this planet .
Antibiotics , agricultural revolutions and global capitalism do not magically produce sustainable , modern cultures -- more often than not , it destroys them .
When was the last time you visited Port au Prince or Bangladesh ?
Simply creating more humans is not an ethical imperative any longer ; our planet is in rather obvious overshoot , and the idea of letting more people onto the lifeboat until we all drown is insane .
The idea that we will be able to life billions of people in the third world to a Western standard of living in the face of climate change , ecocide , resource depletion , etc .
seems rather fanciful .
If this is your hope , all I can say is , I hope you have a plan B. If you want to know where this is probably headed , study the history of Easter Island and extrapolate to a global scale .
If someone really wants to be a hero , a clever molecular biologist needs to find a way to humanely reduce the global population back to a sustainable level .
It 's either that or uncontrolled die-off , imo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excuse me sir, but despite your rhetoric, the Western do-gooder imperative to save lives is exactly why there are so many ecological and humanitarian disaster areas on this planet .
Antibiotics, agricultural revolutions and global capitalism do not magically produce sustainable, modern cultures -- more often than not, it destroys them.
When was the last time you visited Port au Prince or Bangladesh?
Simply creating more humans is not an ethical imperative any longer; our planet is in rather obvious overshoot, and the idea of letting more people onto the lifeboat until we all drown is insane.
The idea that we will be able to life billions of people in the third world to a Western standard of living in the face of climate change, ecocide, resource depletion, etc.
seems rather fanciful.
If this is your hope, all I can say is, I hope you have a plan B.  If you want to know where this is probably headed, study the history of Easter Island and extrapolate to a global scale.
If someone really wants to be a hero, a clever molecular biologist needs to find a way to humanely reduce the global population back to a sustainable level.
It's either that or uncontrolled die-off, imo.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956974</id>
	<title>$10B anti-virus</title>
	<author>hellsoldier</author>
	<datestamp>1264768140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Gates should invest this $10B on a anti-virus for Windows</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gates should invest this $ 10B on a anti-virus for Windows</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gates should invest this $10B on a anti-virus for Windows</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30960328</id>
	<title>Re:The project is not neccessary</title>
	<author>Nick Number</author>
	<datestamp>1264884900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123680870885500701.html" title="wsj.com"> Once you can shoot down mosquitos with lasers</a> [wsj.com]  you might not need a vaccine for malaria.</p></div><p>Wow.  That sounds much easier than <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcACaW9vwg4" title="youtube.com">the old way</a> [youtube.com].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Once you can shoot down mosquitos with lasers [ wsj.com ] you might not need a vaccine for malaria.Wow .
That sounds much easier than the old way [ youtube.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  Once you can shoot down mosquitos with lasers [wsj.com]  you might not need a vaccine for malaria.Wow.
That sounds much easier than the old way [youtube.com].
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956132</id>
	<title>Bravo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For all the slagging that Windows and other MSFT products get here you have to admit that this man is generous and caring to the people at the other end of the spectrum.</p><p>Let's see some donations from Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Steve Ballmer and Richard Stalman now!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For all the slagging that Windows and other MSFT products get here you have to admit that this man is generous and caring to the people at the other end of the spectrum.Let 's see some donations from Steve Jobs , Larry Ellison , Steve Ballmer and Richard Stalman now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all the slagging that Windows and other MSFT products get here you have to admit that this man is generous and caring to the people at the other end of the spectrum.Let's see some donations from Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Steve Ballmer and Richard Stalman now!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956078</id>
	<title>Big Pharma won't like this...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Big Pharma won't like this. They make money by providing medicines to treat diseases not prevent  them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Big Pharma wo n't like this .
They make money by providing medicines to treat diseases not prevent them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Big Pharma won't like this.
They make money by providing medicines to treat diseases not prevent  them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957754</id>
	<title>Re:$1149 per life saved seems inefficient</title>
	<author>cdrguru</author>
	<datestamp>1264772340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clean drinking water is a real problem when most rural third-world people just use the great outdoors as their toilet.  I believe it is commonly referred to as open defecation.</p><p>Basically, you aren't going to have clean water if you are taking a dump next to the pond where you get your drinking water.  There isn't any way to fix this today because there are too many people for them to "properly" manage their wastes.  Sanitation is something we take for granted but it doesn't exist in most of the world today.  Fix that, and you have fixed the drinking water problem.</p><p>Unfortunately, fixing that is going to take a lot more than $10B.  And you better start thinking about population reduction as well.  The current number of people on the planet just do not have anywhere else to take a dump other than near by someone's water supply.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clean drinking water is a real problem when most rural third-world people just use the great outdoors as their toilet .
I believe it is commonly referred to as open defecation.Basically , you are n't going to have clean water if you are taking a dump next to the pond where you get your drinking water .
There is n't any way to fix this today because there are too many people for them to " properly " manage their wastes .
Sanitation is something we take for granted but it does n't exist in most of the world today .
Fix that , and you have fixed the drinking water problem.Unfortunately , fixing that is going to take a lot more than $ 10B .
And you better start thinking about population reduction as well .
The current number of people on the planet just do not have anywhere else to take a dump other than near by someone 's water supply .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clean drinking water is a real problem when most rural third-world people just use the great outdoors as their toilet.
I believe it is commonly referred to as open defecation.Basically, you aren't going to have clean water if you are taking a dump next to the pond where you get your drinking water.
There isn't any way to fix this today because there are too many people for them to "properly" manage their wastes.
Sanitation is something we take for granted but it doesn't exist in most of the world today.
Fix that, and you have fixed the drinking water problem.Unfortunately, fixing that is going to take a lot more than $10B.
And you better start thinking about population reduction as well.
The current number of people on the planet just do not have anywhere else to take a dump other than near by someone's water supply.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956690</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264766520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I knew this comment would appear.</p><p>You are disgusting.  Does your irrational hate for Microsoft have no boundaries whatsoever?</p><p>If you are like 90\% of people, you \_would not be using a computer\_ were it not for Microsoft.</p><p>But lets set Microsoft and software aside.</p><p>I encourage you to head to some disease infested rathole, pre-vaccination, and when people working with funds and medicine provided by the Gates foundation offer to give you an injection that gives you an order of magnitude improvement in survival over your ancestors and everyone in your peer group... I expect you to show them your printed out slashdot comment, [no doubt printed by a printer that Microsoft had some small role in bringing to market]...<nobr> <wbr></nobr><b>...and I expect you to refuse the vaccine</b> because you have principles that are beyond reproach.</p><p>I expect you to provide an eloquent lecture to the doctors [who will haved moved on to treating other people -- ones worth saving], extolling the evil of the foundation that makes it financially possible for them to help poverty stricken people without worrying about how \_they\_ are going to eat.</p><p>Before heading over, why don't you post it here?  Why don't you explain for all of our benefit how Bill Gates created the patent system, and without it, free medicine would have invented itself, and subsequently sprouted wings and flown across the ocean to where it is needed; where doctors would materialize out of nothing riding in on glorious unicorns with silver manes, and then be well fed enough on all of the abundant free food in africa to gleefully risk their own lives to administer said drugs to the people that without such treatment would continue dying in mountainous heaps of human suffering.</p><p>I'm all ears, hot shot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I knew this comment would appear.You are disgusting .
Does your irrational hate for Microsoft have no boundaries whatsoever ? If you are like 90 \ % of people , you \ _would not be using a computer \ _ were it not for Microsoft.But lets set Microsoft and software aside.I encourage you to head to some disease infested rathole , pre-vaccination , and when people working with funds and medicine provided by the Gates foundation offer to give you an injection that gives you an order of magnitude improvement in survival over your ancestors and everyone in your peer group... I expect you to show them your printed out slashdot comment , [ no doubt printed by a printer that Microsoft had some small role in bringing to market ] ... ...and I expect you to refuse the vaccine because you have principles that are beyond reproach.I expect you to provide an eloquent lecture to the doctors [ who will haved moved on to treating other people -- ones worth saving ] , extolling the evil of the foundation that makes it financially possible for them to help poverty stricken people without worrying about how \ _they \ _ are going to eat.Before heading over , why do n't you post it here ?
Why do n't you explain for all of our benefit how Bill Gates created the patent system , and without it , free medicine would have invented itself , and subsequently sprouted wings and flown across the ocean to where it is needed ; where doctors would materialize out of nothing riding in on glorious unicorns with silver manes , and then be well fed enough on all of the abundant free food in africa to gleefully risk their own lives to administer said drugs to the people that without such treatment would continue dying in mountainous heaps of human suffering.I 'm all ears , hot shot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I knew this comment would appear.You are disgusting.
Does your irrational hate for Microsoft have no boundaries whatsoever?If you are like 90\% of people, you \_would not be using a computer\_ were it not for Microsoft.But lets set Microsoft and software aside.I encourage you to head to some disease infested rathole, pre-vaccination, and when people working with funds and medicine provided by the Gates foundation offer to give you an injection that gives you an order of magnitude improvement in survival over your ancestors and everyone in your peer group... I expect you to show them your printed out slashdot comment, [no doubt printed by a printer that Microsoft had some small role in bringing to market]... ...and I expect you to refuse the vaccine because you have principles that are beyond reproach.I expect you to provide an eloquent lecture to the doctors [who will haved moved on to treating other people -- ones worth saving], extolling the evil of the foundation that makes it financially possible for them to help poverty stricken people without worrying about how \_they\_ are going to eat.Before heading over, why don't you post it here?
Why don't you explain for all of our benefit how Bill Gates created the patent system, and without it, free medicine would have invented itself, and subsequently sprouted wings and flown across the ocean to where it is needed; where doctors would materialize out of nothing riding in on glorious unicorns with silver manes, and then be well fed enough on all of the abundant free food in africa to gleefully risk their own lives to administer said drugs to the people that without such treatment would continue dying in mountainous heaps of human suffering.I'm all ears, hot shot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956054</id>
	<title>OH yeah?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264763940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So what.  Richard Stallman is donating all leftover toe fungus to starving children in Africa.  Suck it Microsoft!</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what .
Richard Stallman is donating all leftover toe fungus to starving children in Africa .
Suck it Microsoft !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what.
Richard Stallman is donating all leftover toe fungus to starving children in Africa.
Suck it Microsoft!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30958648</id>
	<title>Chief Executive Office</title>
	<author>Major Blud</author>
	<datestamp>1264779480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Article states that he stepped down as CEO in mid-2008.  Actually he quit being CEO in January, 2000.  He resiged as chairman in 2008.

Another fine piece of reporting incorrect facts from CNN.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Article states that he stepped down as CEO in mid-2008 .
Actually he quit being CEO in January , 2000 .
He resiged as chairman in 2008 .
Another fine piece of reporting incorrect facts from CNN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Article states that he stepped down as CEO in mid-2008.
Actually he quit being CEO in January, 2000.
He resiged as chairman in 2008.
Another fine piece of reporting incorrect facts from CNN.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957398</id>
	<title>How about just promoting vitamin D?</title>
	<author>Paul Fernhout</author>
	<datestamp>1264770240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Might save a trillion dollars a year in health care costs. Especially for indoors-mainly slashdoters:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml" title="vitamindcouncil.org">http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml</a> [vitamindcouncil.org]<br>Technology stock implications here:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://beforeitsnews.com/story/14046/What\_Vitamin\_D\_Means\_to\_Your\_Technology\_Profits.html" title="beforeitsnews.com">http://beforeitsnews.com/story/14046/What\_Vitamin\_D\_Means\_to\_Your\_Technology\_Profits.html</a> [beforeitsnews.com]<br>"The scientific consensus that has held sway for four decades regarding both exposure to the sun and vitamin D has collapsed. What has emerged in place of the old settled science is the knowledge that most people in America are seriously vitamin D deficient or insufficient. The same is true for Canada and Europe, and the implications are staggering. Simply put, unless you are one of the few people with optimal serum D levels, such as lifeguards and roofers in South Florida, you can cut your risks from most major diseases by 50 to 80 percent. All you have to do is get enough D. This also means we can significantly reduce healthcare costs by taking a few simple steps.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Behind the scenes even as I write today, the NIH is looking for a face-saving way to change positions on vitamin D without taking too much blame for having resisted those who have urged reassessment for decades."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Might save a trillion dollars a year in health care costs .
Especially for indoors-mainly slashdoters :     http : //www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml [ vitamindcouncil.org ] Technology stock implications here :     http : //beforeitsnews.com/story/14046/What \ _Vitamin \ _D \ _Means \ _to \ _Your \ _Technology \ _Profits.html [ beforeitsnews.com ] " The scientific consensus that has held sway for four decades regarding both exposure to the sun and vitamin D has collapsed .
What has emerged in place of the old settled science is the knowledge that most people in America are seriously vitamin D deficient or insufficient .
The same is true for Canada and Europe , and the implications are staggering .
Simply put , unless you are one of the few people with optimal serum D levels , such as lifeguards and roofers in South Florida , you can cut your risks from most major diseases by 50 to 80 percent .
All you have to do is get enough D. This also means we can significantly reduce healthcare costs by taking a few simple steps .
... Behind the scenes even as I write today , the NIH is looking for a face-saving way to change positions on vitamin D without taking too much blame for having resisted those who have urged reassessment for decades .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Might save a trillion dollars a year in health care costs.
Especially for indoors-mainly slashdoters:
    http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml [vitamindcouncil.org]Technology stock implications here:
    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/14046/What\_Vitamin\_D\_Means\_to\_Your\_Technology\_Profits.html [beforeitsnews.com]"The scientific consensus that has held sway for four decades regarding both exposure to the sun and vitamin D has collapsed.
What has emerged in place of the old settled science is the knowledge that most people in America are seriously vitamin D deficient or insufficient.
The same is true for Canada and Europe, and the implications are staggering.
Simply put, unless you are one of the few people with optimal serum D levels, such as lifeguards and roofers in South Florida, you can cut your risks from most major diseases by 50 to 80 percent.
All you have to do is get enough D. This also means we can significantly reduce healthcare costs by taking a few simple steps.
... Behind the scenes even as I write today, the NIH is looking for a face-saving way to change positions on vitamin D without taking too much blame for having resisted those who have urged reassessment for decades.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957548</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>ignavus</author>
	<datestamp>1264771140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I find it hard to believe that people criticize this. What have you done for those people there is what I would like to know?</p></div><p>What he (the grandparent poster) has done is - like millions of other people around the world - contribute to the massive wealth of Microsoft and specifically Bill Gates, which enables the latter to do good works with "his money".</p><p>When the government spends money raised by taxing us, we say they are spending "our money". When Bill Gates spends money raised by taxing us, he says it is "his money". It would look better if he acknowledged that he was spending this money on behalf of all the Microsoft-taxed contributers to "his" wealth.</p><p>Wealth is wonderful. It enables you to buy anything you want, including a virtuous reputation. I could be giving proportionately more of my wealth to charity, and living in much more reduced circumstances than Bill Gates's, but I would go completely unnoticed.</p><p>Does Bill Gates experience any hardship as a result of his charity? It really seems more like his new hobby than a sacrifice. That doesn't make the results of this foundation wrong. I have no expertise on the relative merits of this project as opposed to other aid priorities, although Rennt made some pertinent observations about this.</p><p>Anyway, I can differentiate between the practical effects of a charitable act and its moral worth. Can't you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it hard to believe that people criticize this .
What have you done for those people there is what I would like to know ? What he ( the grandparent poster ) has done is - like millions of other people around the world - contribute to the massive wealth of Microsoft and specifically Bill Gates , which enables the latter to do good works with " his money " .When the government spends money raised by taxing us , we say they are spending " our money " .
When Bill Gates spends money raised by taxing us , he says it is " his money " .
It would look better if he acknowledged that he was spending this money on behalf of all the Microsoft-taxed contributers to " his " wealth.Wealth is wonderful .
It enables you to buy anything you want , including a virtuous reputation .
I could be giving proportionately more of my wealth to charity , and living in much more reduced circumstances than Bill Gates 's , but I would go completely unnoticed.Does Bill Gates experience any hardship as a result of his charity ?
It really seems more like his new hobby than a sacrifice .
That does n't make the results of this foundation wrong .
I have no expertise on the relative merits of this project as opposed to other aid priorities , although Rennt made some pertinent observations about this.Anyway , I can differentiate between the practical effects of a charitable act and its moral worth .
Ca n't you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it hard to believe that people criticize this.
What have you done for those people there is what I would like to know?What he (the grandparent poster) has done is - like millions of other people around the world - contribute to the massive wealth of Microsoft and specifically Bill Gates, which enables the latter to do good works with "his money".When the government spends money raised by taxing us, we say they are spending "our money".
When Bill Gates spends money raised by taxing us, he says it is "his money".
It would look better if he acknowledged that he was spending this money on behalf of all the Microsoft-taxed contributers to "his" wealth.Wealth is wonderful.
It enables you to buy anything you want, including a virtuous reputation.
I could be giving proportionately more of my wealth to charity, and living in much more reduced circumstances than Bill Gates's, but I would go completely unnoticed.Does Bill Gates experience any hardship as a result of his charity?
It really seems more like his new hobby than a sacrifice.
That doesn't make the results of this foundation wrong.
I have no expertise on the relative merits of this project as opposed to other aid priorities, although Rennt made some pertinent observations about this.Anyway, I can differentiate between the practical effects of a charitable act and its moral worth.
Can't you?
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	<title>All things considered,</title>
	<author>idontusenumbers</author>
	<datestamp>1264767300000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>This is pretty expensive. $1,000 a life. How much does clean water cost? It has to be less than this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is pretty expensive .
$ 1,000 a life .
How much does clean water cost ?
It has to be less than this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is pretty expensive.
$1,000 a life.
How much does clean water cost?
It has to be less than this.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957388</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1264770180000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Slashdot has always had lots of Malthus Jr's hanging around. Hell there were people hating on Norman Borlaug because even though he'd saved about a billion people (yes really) they said he'd only made it worse, or prolonged the inevitable and so on. As far as they are concerned we should more or less just write off any non-industrialized nation and let them die since that is what they say will happen anyhow.</p><p>I say technology has been proving them wrong for a long time, and I think it will continue to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot has always had lots of Malthus Jr 's hanging around .
Hell there were people hating on Norman Borlaug because even though he 'd saved about a billion people ( yes really ) they said he 'd only made it worse , or prolonged the inevitable and so on .
As far as they are concerned we should more or less just write off any non-industrialized nation and let them die since that is what they say will happen anyhow.I say technology has been proving them wrong for a long time , and I think it will continue to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot has always had lots of Malthus Jr's hanging around.
Hell there were people hating on Norman Borlaug because even though he'd saved about a billion people (yes really) they said he'd only made it worse, or prolonged the inevitable and so on.
As far as they are concerned we should more or less just write off any non-industrialized nation and let them die since that is what they say will happen anyhow.I say technology has been proving them wrong for a long time, and I think it will continue to do so.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>TheSync</author>
	<datestamp>1264767120000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><i>The argument about recouping research costs is no longer valid when most of the money goes into marketing instead of research.</i></p><p>But without marketing, you wouldn't have enough sales to earn the profits needed for the research, or to be able to risk taking drugs (that may fail) through the expensive FDA approval process.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The argument about recouping research costs is no longer valid when most of the money goes into marketing instead of research.But without marketing , you would n't have enough sales to earn the profits needed for the research , or to be able to risk taking drugs ( that may fail ) through the expensive FDA approval process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The argument about recouping research costs is no longer valid when most of the money goes into marketing instead of research.But without marketing, you wouldn't have enough sales to earn the profits needed for the research, or to be able to risk taking drugs (that may fail) through the expensive FDA approval process.</sentencetext>
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	<title>his money probably not helping much anyways:</title>
	<author>ghostunit</author>
	<datestamp>1264789380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext>I can't help but feel that a lot of the Gates Foundation's efforts are misguided feel good fixes.<br> <br>

"Save the children" rather than fixing some of the underlying problems. For example, Iodine deficiency is perhaps the most cost effective human capital fix there is. Yet the Gates foundation has only given a few million to that cause as far as I can tell. Vaccines are sexy, saving children is sexy, makes your altruism feel good. Iodine in salt - not so sexy, no discernible results for 20+ years, no great feel good effect.<br> <br>

Oh awesome - Nikolas Kristof wrote about it :
<a href="http://outside.away.com/outside/culture/200912/nicholas-kristof-philanthropy-advice-1.html" title="away.com">here</a> [away.com]
<br> <br>
Unfortunately, the most cost-effective aid interventions tend to be the kind that are incremental and save only a small proportion of lives&mdash;and are thus least satisfying to the giver. For instance, my wife, Sheryl WuDunn, and I have recently published a new book, Half the Sky, arguing that educating and empowering women is the most effective way to fight global poverty and extremism. In the book we call on the U.S. government to adopt a program to help poor countries iodize their salt. Right now, about one-third of families in poor countries don't get enough iodine, and the result is not so much goiters as diminished intellectual capacity. Iodine is essential to brain formation for a fetus in the first trimester, and if a mother lacks iodine her child may end up mentally retarded. More commonly, children in such areas lose 10 to 15 IQ points, with girls particularly affected for reasons that aren't fully understood. This is a lifelong intelligence deficit and a significant burden on poor countries, and it can be resolved very cheaply; iodizing salt costs a couple of pennies per person per year.<br> <br>

    Studies have suggested that iodizing salt brings real economic returns of nine times the cost&mdash;and yet we don't do it. The reason is, I think, that the results are statistical, not visible. You can never look at a child afterwards and say, "This girl would have been retarded if it weren't for iodized salt." All you can do is note that retardation rates fall and that, a decade later, school performance improves significantly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't help but feel that a lot of the Gates Foundation 's efforts are misguided feel good fixes .
" Save the children " rather than fixing some of the underlying problems .
For example , Iodine deficiency is perhaps the most cost effective human capital fix there is .
Yet the Gates foundation has only given a few million to that cause as far as I can tell .
Vaccines are sexy , saving children is sexy , makes your altruism feel good .
Iodine in salt - not so sexy , no discernible results for 20 + years , no great feel good effect .
Oh awesome - Nikolas Kristof wrote about it : here [ away.com ] Unfortunately , the most cost-effective aid interventions tend to be the kind that are incremental and save only a small proportion of lives    and are thus least satisfying to the giver .
For instance , my wife , Sheryl WuDunn , and I have recently published a new book , Half the Sky , arguing that educating and empowering women is the most effective way to fight global poverty and extremism .
In the book we call on the U.S. government to adopt a program to help poor countries iodize their salt .
Right now , about one-third of families in poor countries do n't get enough iodine , and the result is not so much goiters as diminished intellectual capacity .
Iodine is essential to brain formation for a fetus in the first trimester , and if a mother lacks iodine her child may end up mentally retarded .
More commonly , children in such areas lose 10 to 15 IQ points , with girls particularly affected for reasons that are n't fully understood .
This is a lifelong intelligence deficit and a significant burden on poor countries , and it can be resolved very cheaply ; iodizing salt costs a couple of pennies per person per year .
Studies have suggested that iodizing salt brings real economic returns of nine times the cost    and yet we do n't do it .
The reason is , I think , that the results are statistical , not visible .
You can never look at a child afterwards and say , " This girl would have been retarded if it were n't for iodized salt .
" All you can do is note that retardation rates fall and that , a decade later , school performance improves significantly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't help but feel that a lot of the Gates Foundation's efforts are misguided feel good fixes.
"Save the children" rather than fixing some of the underlying problems.
For example, Iodine deficiency is perhaps the most cost effective human capital fix there is.
Yet the Gates foundation has only given a few million to that cause as far as I can tell.
Vaccines are sexy, saving children is sexy, makes your altruism feel good.
Iodine in salt - not so sexy, no discernible results for 20+ years, no great feel good effect.
Oh awesome - Nikolas Kristof wrote about it :
here [away.com]
 
Unfortunately, the most cost-effective aid interventions tend to be the kind that are incremental and save only a small proportion of lives—and are thus least satisfying to the giver.
For instance, my wife, Sheryl WuDunn, and I have recently published a new book, Half the Sky, arguing that educating and empowering women is the most effective way to fight global poverty and extremism.
In the book we call on the U.S. government to adopt a program to help poor countries iodize their salt.
Right now, about one-third of families in poor countries don't get enough iodine, and the result is not so much goiters as diminished intellectual capacity.
Iodine is essential to brain formation for a fetus in the first trimester, and if a mother lacks iodine her child may end up mentally retarded.
More commonly, children in such areas lose 10 to 15 IQ points, with girls particularly affected for reasons that aren't fully understood.
This is a lifelong intelligence deficit and a significant burden on poor countries, and it can be resolved very cheaply; iodizing salt costs a couple of pennies per person per year.
Studies have suggested that iodizing salt brings real economic returns of nine times the cost—and yet we don't do it.
The reason is, I think, that the results are statistical, not visible.
You can never look at a child afterwards and say, "This girl would have been retarded if it weren't for iodized salt.
" All you can do is note that retardation rates fall and that, a decade later, school performance improves significantly.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956656</id>
	<title>Re:Big Pharma won't like this...</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1264766400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dead men don't pay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dead men do n't pay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dead men don't pay.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956876</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264767600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah yes, the classic "you're not entitled to criticize unless you're an activist" argument.  You don't need to be involved to voice an opinion... you just need to be informed.</p><p>You're probably one of those people who think food donations and deferred-payment loans are helping to ease the suffering in third-world countries.  Teach a man to fish...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes , the classic " you 're not entitled to criticize unless you 're an activist " argument .
You do n't need to be involved to voice an opinion... you just need to be informed.You 're probably one of those people who think food donations and deferred-payment loans are helping to ease the suffering in third-world countries .
Teach a man to fish.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes, the classic "you're not entitled to criticize unless you're an activist" argument.
You don't need to be involved to voice an opinion... you just need to be informed.You're probably one of those people who think food donations and deferred-payment loans are helping to ease the suffering in third-world countries.
Teach a man to fish...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957302</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264769820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You also forgot to mention that the government is broke, and the FDA will gladly accept a bribe, err I mean few million dollars in processing fees, to 'fast-track' you through the approval process.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You also forgot to mention that the government is broke , and the FDA will gladly accept a bribe , err I mean few million dollars in processing fees , to 'fast-track ' you through the approval process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You also forgot to mention that the government is broke, and the FDA will gladly accept a bribe, err I mean few million dollars in processing fees, to 'fast-track' you through the approval process.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956076</id>
	<title>The project is not neccessary</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1264764000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123680870885500701.html" title="wsj.com"> Once you can shoot down mosquitos with lasers</a> [wsj.com]  you might not need a vaccine for malaria. Like this we should find technological solutions that make vaccines unnecessary. I am wondering why Bill Gates is funding both initiatives.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Once you can shoot down mosquitos with lasers [ wsj.com ] you might not need a vaccine for malaria .
Like this we should find technological solutions that make vaccines unnecessary .
I am wondering why Bill Gates is funding both initiatives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Once you can shoot down mosquitos with lasers [wsj.com]  you might not need a vaccine for malaria.
Like this we should find technological solutions that make vaccines unnecessary.
I am wondering why Bill Gates is funding both initiatives.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956422</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264765380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Typical slashdot commie attitude. Creating drugs (like creating software) should be free! Wait no. Neither is free, which is why most serious FOSS developers are on some companies pay roll doing development for dollars. Food isn't free last I checked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Typical slashdot commie attitude .
Creating drugs ( like creating software ) should be free !
Wait no .
Neither is free , which is why most serious FOSS developers are on some companies pay roll doing development for dollars .
Food is n't free last I checked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Typical slashdot commie attitude.
Creating drugs (like creating software) should be free!
Wait no.
Neither is free, which is why most serious FOSS developers are on some companies pay roll doing development for dollars.
Food isn't free last I checked.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957830</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264772820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What good is curing malaria at the expense of mass starvation? If you're going to cure a disease that stymies population growth then you also must first ensure that the upcoming growth is resourced. Otherwise you're not only simply relocating the problem but extending it to other members of the population.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What good is curing malaria at the expense of mass starvation ?
If you 're going to cure a disease that stymies population growth then you also must first ensure that the upcoming growth is resourced .
Otherwise you 're not only simply relocating the problem but extending it to other members of the population .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What good is curing malaria at the expense of mass starvation?
If you're going to cure a disease that stymies population growth then you also must first ensure that the upcoming growth is resourced.
Otherwise you're not only simply relocating the problem but extending it to other members of the population.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956626</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>kuzb</author>
	<datestamp>1264766220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think I've ever read something so douchey on slashdot before.  Really.  When was the last time you even donated 1/1000th of that amount to a charity.</p><p>Only retards look a gift horse in the mouth like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think I 've ever read something so douchey on slashdot before .
Really. When was the last time you even donated 1/1000th of that amount to a charity.Only retards look a gift horse in the mouth like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think I've ever read something so douchey on slashdot before.
Really.  When was the last time you even donated 1/1000th of that amount to a charity.Only retards look a gift horse in the mouth like this.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956348</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264765140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forget to add in the R&amp;D used to create said drug, the FDA Fees and costs to get the drug tested and approved. Now add in the Liability costs when shit happens to \%.001 of the people taking the drug and are sued into oblivion by the likes of John Edwards and so on.</p><p>The real cost of a vaccine is probably closer to $200 per dose than the actual $1 cost to manufacture it.</p><p>Now, if you're suggesting we stop R&amp;D, FDA approval process and torts against the vaccine manufacturer then we might be closer to getting your fictional $1/dose vaccine.</p><p>It just isn't as simple as you suggest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forget to add in the R&amp;D used to create said drug , the FDA Fees and costs to get the drug tested and approved .
Now add in the Liability costs when shit happens to \ % .001 of the people taking the drug and are sued into oblivion by the likes of John Edwards and so on.The real cost of a vaccine is probably closer to $ 200 per dose than the actual $ 1 cost to manufacture it.Now , if you 're suggesting we stop R&amp;D , FDA approval process and torts against the vaccine manufacturer then we might be closer to getting your fictional $ 1/dose vaccine.It just is n't as simple as you suggest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forget to add in the R&amp;D used to create said drug, the FDA Fees and costs to get the drug tested and approved.
Now add in the Liability costs when shit happens to \%.001 of the people taking the drug and are sued into oblivion by the likes of John Edwards and so on.The real cost of a vaccine is probably closer to $200 per dose than the actual $1 cost to manufacture it.Now, if you're suggesting we stop R&amp;D, FDA approval process and torts against the vaccine manufacturer then we might be closer to getting your fictional $1/dose vaccine.It just isn't as simple as you suggest.</sentencetext>
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	<title>US MSM are corporate sycophants</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264765800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Bill and Melinda aren't evil, as some might posit.  I'm sure they truly believe they are doing the world good.  Thing is, their motivations are more complicated than simply giving $10 billion away.  Their foundation campaigns actively against the introduction of generic drugs into countries that accept their help.  They do so believing that propping up the profits of the drug oligarchs will lead to better medicines, etc.  (medicine for who, though?).  It doesn't hurt that when the pharmaceutical industry profits, their shareholders profit.  It's really the same strategy Bill has used his entire life.  Completely annihilate all competition, using nationalistic pride to spur government sponsored protection of your monopoly.  "They are so good, we must write and enforce intellectual property protections to help them."  Does the MSM pick up on the rank profiteering at all?  Not a chance, their corporate underwriters would have a fit.  No one sees what is going on.  Bill's "generosity" is a tax write off and a way to institute monopoly protections in developing nations that would otherwise have no need for his billions, because they would otherwise have ready access to drugs at cost.  What MSM outlet will highlight Bill's greed and hypocrisy?  The oligarchs already run the US, now they want to run the entire world.  I hope somebody, some country, someone somehow fights back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill and Melinda are n't evil , as some might posit .
I 'm sure they truly believe they are doing the world good .
Thing is , their motivations are more complicated than simply giving $ 10 billion away .
Their foundation campaigns actively against the introduction of generic drugs into countries that accept their help .
They do so believing that propping up the profits of the drug oligarchs will lead to better medicines , etc .
( medicine for who , though ? ) .
It does n't hurt that when the pharmaceutical industry profits , their shareholders profit .
It 's really the same strategy Bill has used his entire life .
Completely annihilate all competition , using nationalistic pride to spur government sponsored protection of your monopoly .
" They are so good , we must write and enforce intellectual property protections to help them .
" Does the MSM pick up on the rank profiteering at all ?
Not a chance , their corporate underwriters would have a fit .
No one sees what is going on .
Bill 's " generosity " is a tax write off and a way to institute monopoly protections in developing nations that would otherwise have no need for his billions , because they would otherwise have ready access to drugs at cost .
What MSM outlet will highlight Bill 's greed and hypocrisy ?
The oligarchs already run the US , now they want to run the entire world .
I hope somebody , some country , someone somehow fights back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill and Melinda aren't evil, as some might posit.
I'm sure they truly believe they are doing the world good.
Thing is, their motivations are more complicated than simply giving $10 billion away.
Their foundation campaigns actively against the introduction of generic drugs into countries that accept their help.
They do so believing that propping up the profits of the drug oligarchs will lead to better medicines, etc.
(medicine for who, though?).
It doesn't hurt that when the pharmaceutical industry profits, their shareholders profit.
It's really the same strategy Bill has used his entire life.
Completely annihilate all competition, using nationalistic pride to spur government sponsored protection of your monopoly.
"They are so good, we must write and enforce intellectual property protections to help them.
"  Does the MSM pick up on the rank profiteering at all?
Not a chance, their corporate underwriters would have a fit.
No one sees what is going on.
Bill's "generosity" is a tax write off and a way to institute monopoly protections in developing nations that would otherwise have no need for his billions, because they would otherwise have ready access to drugs at cost.
What MSM outlet will highlight Bill's greed and hypocrisy?
The oligarchs already run the US, now they want to run the entire world.
I hope somebody, some country, someone somehow fights back.</sentencetext>
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	<title>why use that 10b to give all americans health care</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why use that 10b to give all Americans health care?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why use that 10b to give all Americans health care ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why use that 10b to give all Americans health care?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Do some math</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264842840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Ten Billion to save 8.7 Million
that is a lot of bucks per life saved
for an inoculation program.

How does clean water, mosquito nets and
birth control stack up.

It seems that a lot of lives would be improved
to the point of the NEXT nasty life saving
medical need.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ten Billion to save 8.7 Million that is a lot of bucks per life saved for an inoculation program .
How does clean water , mosquito nets and birth control stack up .
It seems that a lot of lives would be improved to the point of the NEXT nasty life saving medical need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ten Billion to save 8.7 Million
that is a lot of bucks per life saved
for an inoculation program.
How does clean water, mosquito nets and
birth control stack up.
It seems that a lot of lives would be improved
to the point of the NEXT nasty life saving
medical need.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956234</id>
	<title>Wow.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, these comments. suck.<br> <br>Bill Gates just gave a HUGE amount of money to tackeling diseases that kill thousands of people per year.  Not potential people or some statistics on a population map, but alive, breathing, suffering people.  This could potentially save thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions of lives.  And he just gave this ridiculous amount of money away to this end.  And the people on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. are talking about patents, Microsoft money, etc.<br> <br>This is a good, noble, and amazing act.  Show some goddamn respect.  What have you done that could change the lives of that many people?  Acknowledge a noble and selfless act...the world would be a much better place if more people not only committed them, but acknowledged them and derive inspiration from them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , these comments .
suck. Bill Gates just gave a HUGE amount of money to tackeling diseases that kill thousands of people per year .
Not potential people or some statistics on a population map , but alive , breathing , suffering people .
This could potentially save thousands , tens of thousands , hundreds of thousands , or millions of lives .
And he just gave this ridiculous amount of money away to this end .
And the people on / .
are talking about patents , Microsoft money , etc .
This is a good , noble , and amazing act .
Show some goddamn respect .
What have you done that could change the lives of that many people ?
Acknowledge a noble and selfless act...the world would be a much better place if more people not only committed them , but acknowledged them and derive inspiration from them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, these comments.
suck. Bill Gates just gave a HUGE amount of money to tackeling diseases that kill thousands of people per year.
Not potential people or some statistics on a population map, but alive, breathing, suffering people.
This could potentially save thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions of lives.
And he just gave this ridiculous amount of money away to this end.
And the people on /.
are talking about patents, Microsoft money, etc.
This is a good, noble, and amazing act.
Show some goddamn respect.
What have you done that could change the lives of that many people?
Acknowledge a noble and selfless act...the world would be a much better place if more people not only committed them, but acknowledged them and derive inspiration from them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30960274</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>mrmeval</author>
	<datestamp>1264884420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I come and defraud you and your family out of the money and give it to the puur is it good or evil. If I do this several million times and manage to avoid prosecution is it good or evil?</p><p>Even if the money was snow clean he's doing missionary work and missionaries are the greatest tool of evil ever devised.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I come and defraud you and your family out of the money and give it to the puur is it good or evil .
If I do this several million times and manage to avoid prosecution is it good or evil ? Even if the money was snow clean he 's doing missionary work and missionaries are the greatest tool of evil ever devised .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I come and defraud you and your family out of the money and give it to the puur is it good or evil.
If I do this several million times and manage to avoid prosecution is it good or evil?Even if the money was snow clean he's doing missionary work and missionaries are the greatest tool of evil ever devised.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956856</id>
	<title>Re:If Gates had imagination or vision...</title>
	<author>CaptainJeff</author>
	<datestamp>1264767480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some folks value hundreds of thousands of human lives more than the dream of creating artificial intelligence.  If you feel that the creation of an intelligent computer is more important than saving hundreds of thousands of human lives, people who live every day afraid of death due to a disease that does not exist in the US, then you're entitled to your opinion.  And I'm entitled to my opinion that your priorities are way out of whack.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some folks value hundreds of thousands of human lives more than the dream of creating artificial intelligence .
If you feel that the creation of an intelligent computer is more important than saving hundreds of thousands of human lives , people who live every day afraid of death due to a disease that does not exist in the US , then you 're entitled to your opinion .
And I 'm entitled to my opinion that your priorities are way out of whack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some folks value hundreds of thousands of human lives more than the dream of creating artificial intelligence.
If you feel that the creation of an intelligent computer is more important than saving hundreds of thousands of human lives, people who live every day afraid of death due to a disease that does not exist in the US, then you're entitled to your opinion.
And I'm entitled to my opinion that your priorities are way out of whack.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957432</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264770540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt; If you are like 90\% of people, you \_would not be using a computer\_ were it not for Microsoft.</p><p>That's somewhat simplistic logic. Considering Microsoft's use of its monopoly power to squelch any real development in computer technology, a more logical conclusion is we, as a society, would most likely be much more advanced.</p><p>Oh, and as for your unwavering praise for the B &amp; M Gates Foundation, keep in mind that a $10 billion donation will amount to very little -- Gates bypasses generics and focuses on big pharma contracts. Take away the obscenely massive mark-ups big pharma takes for itself and only a small percentage of that donation will be left for those recipients who actually need the aid.</p><p>Your blind reasoning putting everything is black and white terms is not realistic. Everything in life is much more complicated with layers of interrelated facets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; If you are like 90 \ % of people , you \ _would not be using a computer \ _ were it not for Microsoft.That 's somewhat simplistic logic .
Considering Microsoft 's use of its monopoly power to squelch any real development in computer technology , a more logical conclusion is we , as a society , would most likely be much more advanced.Oh , and as for your unwavering praise for the B &amp; M Gates Foundation , keep in mind that a $ 10 billion donation will amount to very little -- Gates bypasses generics and focuses on big pharma contracts .
Take away the obscenely massive mark-ups big pharma takes for itself and only a small percentage of that donation will be left for those recipients who actually need the aid.Your blind reasoning putting everything is black and white terms is not realistic .
Everything in life is much more complicated with layers of interrelated facets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; If you are like 90\% of people, you \_would not be using a computer\_ were it not for Microsoft.That's somewhat simplistic logic.
Considering Microsoft's use of its monopoly power to squelch any real development in computer technology, a more logical conclusion is we, as a society, would most likely be much more advanced.Oh, and as for your unwavering praise for the B &amp; M Gates Foundation, keep in mind that a $10 billion donation will amount to very little -- Gates bypasses generics and focuses on big pharma contracts.
Take away the obscenely massive mark-ups big pharma takes for itself and only a small percentage of that donation will be left for those recipients who actually need the aid.Your blind reasoning putting everything is black and white terms is not realistic.
Everything in life is much more complicated with layers of interrelated facets.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30961786</id>
	<title>Not to be cynical, but..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264863360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"This 10-year, 10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million lives." (and cause thousands of new cases of Autism and Type 1 Diabetes)</p><p>Although its not yet proven, it is strange that the developed world has a much higher rate of these diseases.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" This 10-year , 10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million lives .
" ( and cause thousands of new cases of Autism and Type 1 Diabetes ) Although its not yet proven , it is strange that the developed world has a much higher rate of these diseases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"This 10-year, 10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million lives.
" (and cause thousands of new cases of Autism and Type 1 Diabetes)Although its not yet proven, it is strange that the developed world has a much higher rate of these diseases.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956028</id>
	<title>they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>KiloByte</author>
	<datestamp>1264763820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That 10 billion dollars are nice, but they're still chump charge compared by the damage the foundation did by promoting patent enforcement.  Who cares if you deliver X pieces of drug at the cost of $200 each if you could instead make the drug cost $1, its real manufacturing cost?</p><p>The argument about recouping research costs is no longer valid when most of the money goes into marketing instead of research.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 10 billion dollars are nice , but they 're still chump charge compared by the damage the foundation did by promoting patent enforcement .
Who cares if you deliver X pieces of drug at the cost of $ 200 each if you could instead make the drug cost $ 1 , its real manufacturing cost ? The argument about recouping research costs is no longer valid when most of the money goes into marketing instead of research .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That 10 billion dollars are nice, but they're still chump charge compared by the damage the foundation did by promoting patent enforcement.
Who cares if you deliver X pieces of drug at the cost of $200 each if you could instead make the drug cost $1, its real manufacturing cost?The argument about recouping research costs is no longer valid when most of the money goes into marketing instead of research.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957028</id>
	<title>Is this not misplaced money?</title>
	<author>mschuyler</author>
	<datestamp>1264768500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've gone through about half the comments to see if this has been brought up. I didn't see it, so....Here's the Gates Foundation pledging $10 billion to vaccinate people. It will save lives, no doubt, but it will also place the majority of these millions of people into a life of poverty. (Don't jump at me yet.) So we increase the world's population with millions of more living on less than a dollar a day.</p><p>Even if you are Bill Gates, you have a limited amount of money. I just wonder if this is the most cost-effective use of $10 billion. Could this money not be spent on infrastructure issues that would improve the quality of life of people? Stuff like sustainable agriculture, clean water, pollution abatement, etc.? Wouldn't spending money on these things ALSO save lives? Would they save as many lives? (Serious question: I don't pretend to know the answer.)</p><p>I certainly agree that saving lives is a good thing, but I worry that injecting money into this part of the cycle (no pun intended) might wind up to be less efective in the long run to keep the greatest number of people alive an well fed. Spending money on vaccines is really kind of a no-brainer, it's so easy. It doesn't take much thought to think up or implement. I just suspect the harder questions re not being asked here and the Foundation is taking an easy path.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've gone through about half the comments to see if this has been brought up .
I did n't see it , so....Here 's the Gates Foundation pledging $ 10 billion to vaccinate people .
It will save lives , no doubt , but it will also place the majority of these millions of people into a life of poverty .
( Do n't jump at me yet .
) So we increase the world 's population with millions of more living on less than a dollar a day.Even if you are Bill Gates , you have a limited amount of money .
I just wonder if this is the most cost-effective use of $ 10 billion .
Could this money not be spent on infrastructure issues that would improve the quality of life of people ?
Stuff like sustainable agriculture , clean water , pollution abatement , etc. ?
Would n't spending money on these things ALSO save lives ?
Would they save as many lives ?
( Serious question : I do n't pretend to know the answer .
) I certainly agree that saving lives is a good thing , but I worry that injecting money into this part of the cycle ( no pun intended ) might wind up to be less efective in the long run to keep the greatest number of people alive an well fed .
Spending money on vaccines is really kind of a no-brainer , it 's so easy .
It does n't take much thought to think up or implement .
I just suspect the harder questions re not being asked here and the Foundation is taking an easy path .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've gone through about half the comments to see if this has been brought up.
I didn't see it, so....Here's the Gates Foundation pledging $10 billion to vaccinate people.
It will save lives, no doubt, but it will also place the majority of these millions of people into a life of poverty.
(Don't jump at me yet.
) So we increase the world's population with millions of more living on less than a dollar a day.Even if you are Bill Gates, you have a limited amount of money.
I just wonder if this is the most cost-effective use of $10 billion.
Could this money not be spent on infrastructure issues that would improve the quality of life of people?
Stuff like sustainable agriculture, clean water, pollution abatement, etc.?
Wouldn't spending money on these things ALSO save lives?
Would they save as many lives?
(Serious question: I don't pretend to know the answer.
)I certainly agree that saving lives is a good thing, but I worry that injecting money into this part of the cycle (no pun intended) might wind up to be less efective in the long run to keep the greatest number of people alive an well fed.
Spending money on vaccines is really kind of a no-brainer, it's so easy.
It doesn't take much thought to think up or implement.
I just suspect the harder questions re not being asked here and the Foundation is taking an easy path.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30958866</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264781340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I find it hard to believe that people criticize this. What have you done for those people there is what I would like to know?</p><p>As 'the' human race we should be ashamed that people still die of malaria. If Gates can fix that then Gates is a hero in my book.</p><p>I don't like his software company and I might not even like the person Gates, but come on people... this is just awesome.</p></div><p>Yes, I am ashamed that people still die from Malaria. And I don't want to take anything away from Mr. Gates. But I remember a time when we eradicated smallpox, and we all did it, because it was done with public money. I remember a time when we went to the Moon, and I had a piece of that, because a part of my taxes paid for that.<br>I guess what bothers me is your seeming hero worship of Bill Gates. Ah, yes, we should all get down and kill Bill Gates ass for this. This is a patronage system. And while I wouldn't deny that Mr. Gates is a hero for doing this, I don't trust this patronage system we seem to be intent on setting up.<br>Or maybe that's just the way this generation sees things - we are all so much into American Idol - we are just waiting around for the next hero. Waiting around to just bask in the glory of the next hero - maybe we can glom onto his success - and even if we can't, well, at least he's doing a good thing. That cute girl thinks so too, so I can make some points with her if I say I think so too.<br>But to get together as a  community and actually accomplish something? well, that's too much work - and anyway, no one cares about doing something for the common anymore, now do they?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it hard to believe that people criticize this .
What have you done for those people there is what I would like to know ? As 'the ' human race we should be ashamed that people still die of malaria .
If Gates can fix that then Gates is a hero in my book.I do n't like his software company and I might not even like the person Gates , but come on people... this is just awesome.Yes , I am ashamed that people still die from Malaria .
And I do n't want to take anything away from Mr. Gates. But I remember a time when we eradicated smallpox , and we all did it , because it was done with public money .
I remember a time when we went to the Moon , and I had a piece of that , because a part of my taxes paid for that.I guess what bothers me is your seeming hero worship of Bill Gates .
Ah , yes , we should all get down and kill Bill Gates ass for this .
This is a patronage system .
And while I would n't deny that Mr. Gates is a hero for doing this , I do n't trust this patronage system we seem to be intent on setting up.Or maybe that 's just the way this generation sees things - we are all so much into American Idol - we are just waiting around for the next hero .
Waiting around to just bask in the glory of the next hero - maybe we can glom onto his success - and even if we ca n't , well , at least he 's doing a good thing .
That cute girl thinks so too , so I can make some points with her if I say I think so too.But to get together as a community and actually accomplish something ?
well , that 's too much work - and anyway , no one cares about doing something for the common anymore , now do they ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it hard to believe that people criticize this.
What have you done for those people there is what I would like to know?As 'the' human race we should be ashamed that people still die of malaria.
If Gates can fix that then Gates is a hero in my book.I don't like his software company and I might not even like the person Gates, but come on people... this is just awesome.Yes, I am ashamed that people still die from Malaria.
And I don't want to take anything away from Mr. Gates. But I remember a time when we eradicated smallpox, and we all did it, because it was done with public money.
I remember a time when we went to the Moon, and I had a piece of that, because a part of my taxes paid for that.I guess what bothers me is your seeming hero worship of Bill Gates.
Ah, yes, we should all get down and kill Bill Gates ass for this.
This is a patronage system.
And while I wouldn't deny that Mr. Gates is a hero for doing this, I don't trust this patronage system we seem to be intent on setting up.Or maybe that's just the way this generation sees things - we are all so much into American Idol - we are just waiting around for the next hero.
Waiting around to just bask in the glory of the next hero - maybe we can glom onto his success - and even if we can't, well, at least he's doing a good thing.
That cute girl thinks so too, so I can make some points with her if I say I think so too.But to get together as a  community and actually accomplish something?
well, that's too much work - and anyway, no one cares about doing something for the common anymore, now do they?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956162</id>
	<title>Re:Birth Control</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1264764360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Birth control doesn't mean no kids, it means planned kids.</p><p>Then there is also the issue that Yemen is having, 50\% of their population is under the age of 18.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Birth control does n't mean no kids , it means planned kids.Then there is also the issue that Yemen is having , 50 \ % of their population is under the age of 18 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Birth control doesn't mean no kids, it means planned kids.Then there is also the issue that Yemen is having, 50\% of their population is under the age of 18.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957040</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.</title>
	<author>vivaelamor</author>
	<datestamp>1264768560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since when does a rich person giving away money qualify them for respect?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when does a rich person giving away money qualify them for respect ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when does a rich person giving away money qualify them for respect?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957712</id>
	<title>Re:And how many lives did his TRIPS cost?</title>
	<author>darkmeridian</author>
	<datestamp>1264772100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The TRIPS section Microsoft liked dealt with copyrights. And you can be sure that it would have been pushed through by Oracle/SUN/etc. Anyway, the TRIPS section dealing with life-saving drugs would have been pushed through by big pharma regardless of what the software industry did. In other words, Bill Gates had nothing to do with TRIPS stopping drugs from reaching third world countries.</p><p>Bill Gates took all this money and tossed it to save lives. Unlike TRIPS, this would not have happened except for his intervention. He deserves some respect instead of dismissive comments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The TRIPS section Microsoft liked dealt with copyrights .
And you can be sure that it would have been pushed through by Oracle/SUN/etc .
Anyway , the TRIPS section dealing with life-saving drugs would have been pushed through by big pharma regardless of what the software industry did .
In other words , Bill Gates had nothing to do with TRIPS stopping drugs from reaching third world countries.Bill Gates took all this money and tossed it to save lives .
Unlike TRIPS , this would not have happened except for his intervention .
He deserves some respect instead of dismissive comments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The TRIPS section Microsoft liked dealt with copyrights.
And you can be sure that it would have been pushed through by Oracle/SUN/etc.
Anyway, the TRIPS section dealing with life-saving drugs would have been pushed through by big pharma regardless of what the software industry did.
In other words, Bill Gates had nothing to do with TRIPS stopping drugs from reaching third world countries.Bill Gates took all this money and tossed it to save lives.
Unlike TRIPS, this would not have happened except for his intervention.
He deserves some respect instead of dismissive comments.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30960082</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.</title>
	<author>Racing\_Turtles</author>
	<datestamp>1264882080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good, noble, respectable, wonderfully humane and giving... yes.  Absolutely yes.  No question about it.

But as far as I'm concerned, it's a pity and a disappointment that the Gates Foundation does not support causes related to environmental protection, endangered species, animal welfare and biodiversity.

Flora, fauna, ecosystems... they can't protect themselves from us.  We have all the weaponry and entitlement.  Protecting these in substantial ways could make a much more important multi-generational contribution</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good , noble , respectable , wonderfully humane and giving... yes. Absolutely yes .
No question about it .
But as far as I 'm concerned , it 's a pity and a disappointment that the Gates Foundation does not support causes related to environmental protection , endangered species , animal welfare and biodiversity .
Flora , fauna , ecosystems... they ca n't protect themselves from us .
We have all the weaponry and entitlement .
Protecting these in substantial ways could make a much more important multi-generational contribution</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good, noble, respectable, wonderfully humane and giving... yes.  Absolutely yes.
No question about it.
But as far as I'm concerned, it's a pity and a disappointment that the Gates Foundation does not support causes related to environmental protection, endangered species, animal welfare and biodiversity.
Flora, fauna, ecosystems... they can't protect themselves from us.
We have all the weaponry and entitlement.
Protecting these in substantial ways could make a much more important multi-generational contribution</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30965116</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264843320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't be a hypocrite.<br>If one steals your money or simply sues you to get your money for using his crappy pirated software, then donates this money to charity, that doesn't make him a saint.<br>Get real, Gates is a criminal that is guilty of crimes against humanity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't be a hypocrite.If one steals your money or simply sues you to get your money for using his crappy pirated software , then donates this money to charity , that does n't make him a saint.Get real , Gates is a criminal that is guilty of crimes against humanity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't be a hypocrite.If one steals your money or simply sues you to get your money for using his crappy pirated software, then donates this money to charity, that doesn't make him a saint.Get real, Gates is a criminal that is guilty of crimes against humanity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957360</id>
	<title>Re:Big Pharma won't like this...</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1264770060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Big Pharma will love it.  Bill buys $10bn of vaccines from them.  They get the money.  Then, he gives the vaccines to people in other countries on the condition that their government signs a treaty with the USA to enforce patents, like the ones on the vaccines.  When the vaccines run out, the people in these countries start demanding that their government keeps supplying them.  Unfortunately, they've just signed a treaty that prevents them from producing them locally, so now they have to go to Big Pharma and buy them.  What's not to like?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Big Pharma will love it .
Bill buys $ 10bn of vaccines from them .
They get the money .
Then , he gives the vaccines to people in other countries on the condition that their government signs a treaty with the USA to enforce patents , like the ones on the vaccines .
When the vaccines run out , the people in these countries start demanding that their government keeps supplying them .
Unfortunately , they 've just signed a treaty that prevents them from producing them locally , so now they have to go to Big Pharma and buy them .
What 's not to like ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Big Pharma will love it.
Bill buys $10bn of vaccines from them.
They get the money.
Then, he gives the vaccines to people in other countries on the condition that their government signs a treaty with the USA to enforce patents, like the ones on the vaccines.
When the vaccines run out, the people in these countries start demanding that their government keeps supplying them.
Unfortunately, they've just signed a treaty that prevents them from producing them locally, so now they have to go to Big Pharma and buy them.
What's not to like?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957652</id>
	<title>How Unusual...</title>
	<author>Colourspace</author>
	<datestamp>1264771800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>An article about Bill without the Borg icon in place..</htmltext>
<tokenext>An article about Bill without the Borg icon in place. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An article about Bill without the Borg icon in place..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956420</id>
	<title>Gates Needs To Invest U.S. $1,000,000,000,000,000</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264765380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>to fix the bugs in all of <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">MicroCRAP</a> [microsoft.com]'s software.</p><p>Yours In Minsk,<br>K. Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>to fix the bugs in all of MicroCRAP [ microsoft.com ] 's software.Yours In Minsk,K .
Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to fix the bugs in all of MicroCRAP [microsoft.com]'s software.Yours In Minsk,K.
Trout</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30960414</id>
	<title>Global warming</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264842660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1 vaccination = one saved child = tons of carbon, not to mention grandchildren  =&gt; population explosion.</p><p>This vaccination program will doom us all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 vaccination = one saved child = tons of carbon , not to mention grandchildren = &gt; population explosion.This vaccination program will doom us all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1 vaccination = one saved child = tons of carbon, not to mention grandchildren  =&gt; population explosion.This vaccination program will doom us all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956592</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>bmsleight</author>
	<datestamp>1264766100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have no mod points, but well said.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have no mod points , but well said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have no mod points, but well said.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957208</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1264769460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not potential people or some statistics on a population map, but alive, breathing, suffering people.</p> </div><p>And his gift will ensure that many of them can continue to be alive, breathe and suffer.</p><p>Lots of us don't mind the first part. We just call Gates shortsighted for ignoring the suffering part. And these people suffer from a lot of things that vaccination won't fix, but a bit of money could. Gates is so focussed on diseases, he ignores that health may be important, but its importance is dramatically reduced if you overcome the illness only to starve, or be shot to death, or gang raped in the next racial extermination campaign.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not potential people or some statistics on a population map , but alive , breathing , suffering people .
And his gift will ensure that many of them can continue to be alive , breathe and suffer.Lots of us do n't mind the first part .
We just call Gates shortsighted for ignoring the suffering part .
And these people suffer from a lot of things that vaccination wo n't fix , but a bit of money could .
Gates is so focussed on diseases , he ignores that health may be important , but its importance is dramatically reduced if you overcome the illness only to starve , or be shot to death , or gang raped in the next racial extermination campaign .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not potential people or some statistics on a population map, but alive, breathing, suffering people.
And his gift will ensure that many of them can continue to be alive, breathe and suffer.Lots of us don't mind the first part.
We just call Gates shortsighted for ignoring the suffering part.
And these people suffer from a lot of things that vaccination won't fix, but a bit of money could.
Gates is so focussed on diseases, he ignores that health may be important, but its importance is dramatically reduced if you overcome the illness only to starve, or be shot to death, or gang raped in the next racial extermination campaign.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956532</id>
	<title>Re:The project is not neccessary</title>
	<author>bit9</author>
	<datestamp>1264765800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow. Who knew someone would actually try that? I thought of that idea 15 years ago, but figured it would be way too costly, not to mention potentially dangerous, even as a garage project.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
Who knew someone would actually try that ?
I thought of that idea 15 years ago , but figured it would be way too costly , not to mention potentially dangerous , even as a garage project .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
Who knew someone would actually try that?
I thought of that idea 15 years ago, but figured it would be way too costly, not to mention potentially dangerous, even as a garage project.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957490</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264770900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can't be sued into oblivion for vaccines. There's a separate vaccine court set up to compensate that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.001\%.</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine\_court</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't be sued into oblivion for vaccines .
There 's a separate vaccine court set up to compensate that .001 \ % .http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine \ _court</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't be sued into oblivion for vaccines.
There's a separate vaccine court set up to compensate that .001\%.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine\_court</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956522</id>
	<title>Oh no!</title>
	<author>HerculesMO</author>
	<datestamp>1264765740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't tell Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't tell Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't tell Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956282</id>
	<title>If Gates had imagination or vision...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He would be pouring every dime he could into the development of human-like, scalable, artificial intelligence - solving all the problems that are solvable instead of this piecemeal nonsense. Moreover, Gates is in a better position than anyone on the planet to get this done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He would be pouring every dime he could into the development of human-like , scalable , artificial intelligence - solving all the problems that are solvable instead of this piecemeal nonsense .
Moreover , Gates is in a better position than anyone on the planet to get this done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He would be pouring every dime he could into the development of human-like, scalable, artificial intelligence - solving all the problems that are solvable instead of this piecemeal nonsense.
Moreover, Gates is in a better position than anyone on the planet to get this done.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30958328</id>
	<title>lol</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264776420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1149.4252873563218390804597701149 each.. why not just give everyone $1200.. surely that would help thier plight more</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1149.4252873563218390804597701149 each.. why not just give everyone $ 1200.. surely that would help thier plight more</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1149.4252873563218390804597701149 each.. why not just give everyone $1200.. surely that would help thier plight more</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957720</id>
	<title>apple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264772160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>next thing you know Apple will be eradicating HIV</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>next thing you know Apple will be eradicating HIV</tokentext>
<sentencetext>next thing you know Apple will be eradicating HIV</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956652</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>swanzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1264766400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As 'the' human race we should be ashamed that people still die of malaria.</p></div><p>I see where you are going there, but the interplay between world socioeconomics and infectious desease is far from trivial matter.  With over 350 million cases of malaria per year worldwide, the solution is not exactly a cake-walk, an by no means anything to be ashamed of.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As 'the ' human race we should be ashamed that people still die of malaria.I see where you are going there , but the interplay between world socioeconomics and infectious desease is far from trivial matter .
With over 350 million cases of malaria per year worldwide , the solution is not exactly a cake-walk , an by no means anything to be ashamed of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As 'the' human race we should be ashamed that people still die of malaria.I see where you are going there, but the interplay between world socioeconomics and infectious desease is far from trivial matter.
With over 350 million cases of malaria per year worldwide, the solution is not exactly a cake-walk, an by no means anything to be ashamed of.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30964720</id>
	<title>per-body cost</title>
	<author>cellocgw</author>
	<datestamp>1264883880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, I only searched a page or two of posts, but it appears nobody has yet pointed out that this projects estimates work out to $1000 per life saved.<br>Now, I know people worth far more (and less<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-) ) than this, but what I'd like to know is how this cost compares with other global medical plans.<br>IIRC,  providing clean water to stave off deaths from diarrhea is a lot cheaper.  And of course transplanting a liver into an aging rock-n-roller is way more expensive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , I only searched a page or two of posts , but it appears nobody has yet pointed out that this projects estimates work out to $ 1000 per life saved.Now , I know people worth far more ( and less : - ) ) than this , but what I 'd like to know is how this cost compares with other global medical plans.IIRC , providing clean water to stave off deaths from diarrhea is a lot cheaper .
And of course transplanting a liver into an aging rock-n-roller is way more expensive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, I only searched a page or two of posts, but it appears nobody has yet pointed out that this projects estimates work out to $1000 per life saved.Now, I know people worth far more (and less :-) ) than this, but what I'd like to know is how this cost compares with other global medical plans.IIRC,  providing clean water to stave off deaths from diarrhea is a lot cheaper.
And of course transplanting a liver into an aging rock-n-roller is way more expensive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956114</id>
	<title>$10B, 8.7M lives saved = $1149 per life</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think $1149 worth of primary care medicine or even plain old sanitation in underdeveloped places could save a hell of a lot more lives than that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think $ 1149 worth of primary care medicine or even plain old sanitation in underdeveloped places could save a hell of a lot more lives than that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think $1149 worth of primary care medicine or even plain old sanitation in underdeveloped places could save a hell of a lot more lives than that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957628</id>
	<title>Re:Insightful? No, non-sequiter</title>
	<author>Rakarra</author>
	<datestamp>1264771680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Besides, with more old people, there will be more old-people medicine for robots to use as fuel. The robots can support the old people, because they're made of metal, and robots are strong.</i> </p><p>I really don't understand this. I don't even understand why the scientists make those robots. They're everywhere.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Besides , with more old people , there will be more old-people medicine for robots to use as fuel .
The robots can support the old people , because they 're made of metal , and robots are strong .
I really do n't understand this .
I do n't even understand why the scientists make those robots .
They 're everywhere .
: - (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Besides, with more old people, there will be more old-people medicine for robots to use as fuel.
The robots can support the old people, because they're made of metal, and robots are strong.
I really don't understand this.
I don't even understand why the scientists make those robots.
They're everywhere.
:-(</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30958166</id>
	<title>Per Capita ?</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1264775280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million lives</i></p><p>So a mere $1149 dollars per person than ?</p><p>This is a problem when 99 cent injections + associated costs = $1149, wouldn't you say ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million livesSo a mere $ 1149 dollars per person than ? This is a problem when 99 cent injections + associated costs = $ 1149 , would n't you say ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>10 billion dollar project is expected to save 8.7 million livesSo a mere $1149 dollars per person than ?This is a problem when 99 cent injections + associated costs = $1149, wouldn't you say ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957128</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>CohibaVancouver</author>
	<datestamp>1264769040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Two thumbs up - You are so right!

<br> <br>

People who oppose this altruistic venture should log off WoW for an hour or two and go read "Major Barbara."<br> <br>

<i>"They would take money from the devil himself and be only too glad to get it out of his hands and into God's".</i> <br> <br>

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major\_Barbara\_(play)" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major\_Barbara\_(play)</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Two thumbs up - You are so right !
People who oppose this altruistic venture should log off WoW for an hour or two and go read " Major Barbara .
" " They would take money from the devil himself and be only too glad to get it out of his hands and into God 's " .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major \ _Barbara \ _ ( play ) [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two thumbs up - You are so right!
People who oppose this altruistic venture should log off WoW for an hour or two and go read "Major Barbara.
" 

"They would take money from the devil himself and be only too glad to get it out of his hands and into God's".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major\_Barbara\_(play) [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957290</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1264769820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why did you bring up Microsoft?  The comment that you are replying to has nothing to do with Microsoft.  It has to do with the B&amp;MGF's policy of requiring countries that benefit from their 'altruism' to sign IP treaties with the USA that prevent local production of the vaccines in question.  Over the course of a decade, their 'donations' reduce the total amount of vaccines that will reach the people in the countries in question.  Free vaccine now, but only if you make sure that the local company that could produce it for $1 never starts so when the donated vaccines run out you have to buy it for $200 from a US company.  Sounds altruistic...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why did you bring up Microsoft ?
The comment that you are replying to has nothing to do with Microsoft .
It has to do with the B&amp;MGF 's policy of requiring countries that benefit from their 'altruism ' to sign IP treaties with the USA that prevent local production of the vaccines in question .
Over the course of a decade , their 'donations ' reduce the total amount of vaccines that will reach the people in the countries in question .
Free vaccine now , but only if you make sure that the local company that could produce it for $ 1 never starts so when the donated vaccines run out you have to buy it for $ 200 from a US company .
Sounds altruistic.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why did you bring up Microsoft?
The comment that you are replying to has nothing to do with Microsoft.
It has to do with the B&amp;MGF's policy of requiring countries that benefit from their 'altruism' to sign IP treaties with the USA that prevent local production of the vaccines in question.
Over the course of a decade, their 'donations' reduce the total amount of vaccines that will reach the people in the countries in question.
Free vaccine now, but only if you make sure that the local company that could produce it for $1 never starts so when the donated vaccines run out you have to buy it for $200 from a US company.
Sounds altruistic...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956686</id>
	<title>Re:Great news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264766520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How would we all feel if the mafia donated this $10B? Would it be worth all the illegal and immoral things that generated the money?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How would we all feel if the mafia donated this $ 10B ?
Would it be worth all the illegal and immoral things that generated the money ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How would we all feel if the mafia donated this $10B?
Would it be worth all the illegal and immoral things that generated the money?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30958020</id>
	<title>Show me a single nation that innovated without IP</title>
	<author>George\_Ou</author>
	<datestamp>1264774080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Show me a single nation that innovated in things like pharmaceuticals without Intellectual Property (IP) protection.<br> <br>  The problem with those who complain about IP protection is that if they actually had their way, there wouldn't be any life saving drugs to begin with.  IP protections do limit the good that these drugs can do in the short term in the sense that it's only affordable to first-world nations (with the exception of some donations here and there), but those drugs eventually lose their patent protection and become cheap enough for everyone to buy them.  Now the typical socialist will argue that those drugs have to be practically given away so that everyone can afford them the minute they're invented.  The problem is that socialist policies means no one will spend the billions of dollars necessary to invent these drugs in the first place.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Show me a single nation that innovated in things like pharmaceuticals without Intellectual Property ( IP ) protection .
The problem with those who complain about IP protection is that if they actually had their way , there would n't be any life saving drugs to begin with .
IP protections do limit the good that these drugs can do in the short term in the sense that it 's only affordable to first-world nations ( with the exception of some donations here and there ) , but those drugs eventually lose their patent protection and become cheap enough for everyone to buy them .
Now the typical socialist will argue that those drugs have to be practically given away so that everyone can afford them the minute they 're invented .
The problem is that socialist policies means no one will spend the billions of dollars necessary to invent these drugs in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Show me a single nation that innovated in things like pharmaceuticals without Intellectual Property (IP) protection.
The problem with those who complain about IP protection is that if they actually had their way, there wouldn't be any life saving drugs to begin with.
IP protections do limit the good that these drugs can do in the short term in the sense that it's only affordable to first-world nations (with the exception of some donations here and there), but those drugs eventually lose their patent protection and become cheap enough for everyone to buy them.
Now the typical socialist will argue that those drugs have to be practically given away so that everyone can afford them the minute they're invented.
The problem is that socialist policies means no one will spend the billions of dollars necessary to invent these drugs in the first place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956520</id>
	<title>Morally good, but long term bad?</title>
	<author>jwhitener</author>
	<datestamp>1264765740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Saving lives is always a good thing, don't get me wrong.  But I often wonder if 10 billion spent on infrastructure like irrigation, factories, schools, etc.. would save more lives in the long run for impoverished countries.</p><p>On one hand, if every 3rd person was dropping dead of an easily preventable disease in a country, it certainly wouldn't be a very stable society.  Say you built schools, irrigation, factories, and then every other worker involved in them was sick. It just wouldn't work.  The farms wouldn't produce,  The factories would shut down, people would fear going to school and contracting something, etc..<br>On the other hand, education and birth control, infrastructure, etc.. will eventually allow a people to pull themselves up. If ever day is a constant struggle for survival, thinking long term (like building a road) is low on their priority list, and it just won't ever get done.</p><p>Perhaps there needs to be some regulation in place that dictates that aid must be spent equally between pure life saving and development of the interior?  In the last decade, there have been several good books talking about why pure food aid in Africa, for instance, isn't very beneficial.  It is only after seeing the results of multiple decades of food aid, that people are beginning to question pure life saving aid.</p><p>Morally, it is hard to say "some must die so that less may die next year", but it certainly doesn't seem like situations in impoverished countries are getting any better with the current model of aid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Saving lives is always a good thing , do n't get me wrong .
But I often wonder if 10 billion spent on infrastructure like irrigation , factories , schools , etc.. would save more lives in the long run for impoverished countries.On one hand , if every 3rd person was dropping dead of an easily preventable disease in a country , it certainly would n't be a very stable society .
Say you built schools , irrigation , factories , and then every other worker involved in them was sick .
It just would n't work .
The farms would n't produce , The factories would shut down , people would fear going to school and contracting something , etc..On the other hand , education and birth control , infrastructure , etc.. will eventually allow a people to pull themselves up .
If ever day is a constant struggle for survival , thinking long term ( like building a road ) is low on their priority list , and it just wo n't ever get done.Perhaps there needs to be some regulation in place that dictates that aid must be spent equally between pure life saving and development of the interior ?
In the last decade , there have been several good books talking about why pure food aid in Africa , for instance , is n't very beneficial .
It is only after seeing the results of multiple decades of food aid , that people are beginning to question pure life saving aid.Morally , it is hard to say " some must die so that less may die next year " , but it certainly does n't seem like situations in impoverished countries are getting any better with the current model of aid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saving lives is always a good thing, don't get me wrong.
But I often wonder if 10 billion spent on infrastructure like irrigation, factories, schools, etc.. would save more lives in the long run for impoverished countries.On one hand, if every 3rd person was dropping dead of an easily preventable disease in a country, it certainly wouldn't be a very stable society.
Say you built schools, irrigation, factories, and then every other worker involved in them was sick.
It just wouldn't work.
The farms wouldn't produce,  The factories would shut down, people would fear going to school and contracting something, etc..On the other hand, education and birth control, infrastructure, etc.. will eventually allow a people to pull themselves up.
If ever day is a constant struggle for survival, thinking long term (like building a road) is low on their priority list, and it just won't ever get done.Perhaps there needs to be some regulation in place that dictates that aid must be spent equally between pure life saving and development of the interior?
In the last decade, there have been several good books talking about why pure food aid in Africa, for instance, isn't very beneficial.
It is only after seeing the results of multiple decades of food aid, that people are beginning to question pure life saving aid.Morally, it is hard to say "some must die so that less may die next year", but it certainly doesn't seem like situations in impoverished countries are getting any better with the current model of aid.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Birth Control</title>
	<author>markdavis</author>
	<datestamp>1264763460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The "way to a better future for the world" is birth control and education.  Don't want to sound cold, but the places with the most human suffering are also the areas with the worst overpopulation vs. the least natural resources.  I would hope this component would be very high on the list of any type of aid when addressing suffering and helping to stop the perpetuation of suffering.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The " way to a better future for the world " is birth control and education .
Do n't want to sound cold , but the places with the most human suffering are also the areas with the worst overpopulation vs. the least natural resources .
I would hope this component would be very high on the list of any type of aid when addressing suffering and helping to stop the perpetuation of suffering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "way to a better future for the world" is birth control and education.
Don't want to sound cold, but the places with the most human suffering are also the areas with the worst overpopulation vs. the least natural resources.
I would hope this component would be very high on the list of any type of aid when addressing suffering and helping to stop the perpetuation of suffering.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956788</id>
	<title>Re:If Gates had imagination or vision...</title>
	<author>RightSaidFred99</author>
	<datestamp>1264767060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He'll get right on that as soon as the teleporter and magic wand are finished being invented, I'm sure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He 'll get right on that as soon as the teleporter and magic wand are finished being invented , I 'm sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He'll get right on that as soon as the teleporter and magic wand are finished being invented, I'm sure.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30959490</id>
	<title>Re:why use that 10b to give all americans health c</title>
	<author>mr exploiter</author>
	<datestamp>1264787520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because they don't want free health care haven't you heard?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they do n't want free health care have n't you heard ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they don't want free health care haven't you heard?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30960096</id>
	<title>Re:Birth Control</title>
	<author>drsquare</author>
	<datestamp>1264882260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, modern capitalism requires endless consumerism to thrive. Economies stagnate when people save.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , modern capitalism requires endless consumerism to thrive .
Economies stagnate when people save .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, modern capitalism requires endless consumerism to thrive.
Economies stagnate when people save.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30956964</id>
	<title>Re:they still harmed more by promoting patents</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1264768080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please take your arguments elsewhere. They are ignorant and factual incorrect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please take your arguments elsewhere .
They are ignorant and factual incorrect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please take your arguments elsewhere.
They are ignorant and factual incorrect.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_2029216.30957024</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264768500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>This is a good, noble, and amazing act. </i> <p>

It is typical for robber barons and organized crime leaders to give to charitable causes.  Maybe (knowing the real cost of their ill-begotten gains) it helps them to sleep at night, maybe they hope it will make history look more kindly upon them.  Regardless, while the end is good, let us not forget the illegal means used to obtain this money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a good , noble , and amazing act .
It is typical for robber barons and organized crime leaders to give to charitable causes .
Maybe ( knowing the real cost of their ill-begotten gains ) it helps them to sleep at night , maybe they hope it will make history look more kindly upon them .
Regardless , while the end is good , let us not forget the illegal means used to obtain this money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a good, noble, and amazing act.
It is typical for robber barons and organized crime leaders to give to charitable causes.
Maybe (knowing the real cost of their ill-begotten gains) it helps them to sleep at night, maybe they hope it will make history look more kindly upon them.
Regardless, while the end is good, let us not forget the illegal means used to obtain this money.</sentencetext>
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