<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_29_1450255</id>
	<title>Has Apple Created the Perfect Board Game Platform?</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1264752720000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>andylim writes <i>"recombu.com is running an interesting piece about how <a href="http://recombu.com/news/ipad-board-games-apple-has-created-a-jumanji-platform\_M11370.html">Apple has created a 'Jumanji (board game) platform.'</a> The 9.7-inch multi-touch screen is perfect for playing board games at home, and you could use Wi-Fi or 3G to play against other people when you're on your own. What would be really interesting is if you could pair the iPad with iPhones, 'Imagine a Scrabble iPad game that used iPhones as letter holders. You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.' Now that would be cool."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>andylim writes " recombu.com is running an interesting piece about how Apple has created a 'Jumanji ( board game ) platform .
' The 9.7-inch multi-touch screen is perfect for playing board games at home , and you could use Wi-Fi or 3G to play against other people when you 're on your own .
What would be really interesting is if you could pair the iPad with iPhones , 'Imagine a Scrabble iPad game that used iPhones as letter holders .
You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board , you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone .
' Now that would be cool .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>andylim writes "recombu.com is running an interesting piece about how Apple has created a 'Jumanji (board game) platform.
' The 9.7-inch multi-touch screen is perfect for playing board games at home, and you could use Wi-Fi or 3G to play against other people when you're on your own.
What would be really interesting is if you could pair the iPad with iPhones, 'Imagine a Scrabble iPad game that used iPhones as letter holders.
You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.
' Now that would be cool.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954388</id>
	<title>A device looking for a purpose</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1264757220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd really like to see someone make a send up skit. It would involve some fanboi buying an iPad and trying to use it as a phone then getting very disappointed when he realises it can't be used as one.</p><p>The iPad is a device looking for a purpose. The Apple designers built a beautiful little smart phone - so nice that people would work around their crippling it with nonsense like jailbreaking. So nice that they'd overlook basic missing functionality like MMS in the first couple of revisions. So nice that they'd pay through the nose and get into ridiculous contracts to own it. It wasn't even about the phone functionality but the accelerometer and touch screen that let you play games and enabled some interesting applets. So then they thought lets make it bigger - that small screen is limiting. And since people aren't buying it for the phone we can leave that functionality for the next generation.</p><p>They forgot that laptops and netbooks already exist and are more versatile. So what you have is a turkey of a device. Crippled and limited. It's best use will be providing competition. Expect to see new laptops with accelerometers and perhaps touch screens built in. Apart from those two features and the ability to run iPhone apps, the iPad has NO advantages over a common laptop or netbook. As one reviewer said, it's an oversized iPhone without the phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd really like to see someone make a send up skit .
It would involve some fanboi buying an iPad and trying to use it as a phone then getting very disappointed when he realises it ca n't be used as one.The iPad is a device looking for a purpose .
The Apple designers built a beautiful little smart phone - so nice that people would work around their crippling it with nonsense like jailbreaking .
So nice that they 'd overlook basic missing functionality like MMS in the first couple of revisions .
So nice that they 'd pay through the nose and get into ridiculous contracts to own it .
It was n't even about the phone functionality but the accelerometer and touch screen that let you play games and enabled some interesting applets .
So then they thought lets make it bigger - that small screen is limiting .
And since people are n't buying it for the phone we can leave that functionality for the next generation.They forgot that laptops and netbooks already exist and are more versatile .
So what you have is a turkey of a device .
Crippled and limited .
It 's best use will be providing competition .
Expect to see new laptops with accelerometers and perhaps touch screens built in .
Apart from those two features and the ability to run iPhone apps , the iPad has NO advantages over a common laptop or netbook .
As one reviewer said , it 's an oversized iPhone without the phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd really like to see someone make a send up skit.
It would involve some fanboi buying an iPad and trying to use it as a phone then getting very disappointed when he realises it can't be used as one.The iPad is a device looking for a purpose.
The Apple designers built a beautiful little smart phone - so nice that people would work around their crippling it with nonsense like jailbreaking.
So nice that they'd overlook basic missing functionality like MMS in the first couple of revisions.
So nice that they'd pay through the nose and get into ridiculous contracts to own it.
It wasn't even about the phone functionality but the accelerometer and touch screen that let you play games and enabled some interesting applets.
So then they thought lets make it bigger - that small screen is limiting.
And since people aren't buying it for the phone we can leave that functionality for the next generation.They forgot that laptops and netbooks already exist and are more versatile.
So what you have is a turkey of a device.
Crippled and limited.
It's best use will be providing competition.
Expect to see new laptops with accelerometers and perhaps touch screens built in.
Apart from those two features and the ability to run iPhone apps, the iPad has NO advantages over a common laptop or netbook.
As one reviewer said, it's an oversized iPhone without the phone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955418</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>LordVader717</author>
	<datestamp>1264761180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All but one of the games you mentioned are in the 30 Dollar range. Much cheaper than most videogames and a heck of a lot cheaper than an iPad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All but one of the games you mentioned are in the 30 Dollar range .
Much cheaper than most videogames and a heck of a lot cheaper than an iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All but one of the games you mentioned are in the 30 Dollar range.
Much cheaper than most videogames and a heck of a lot cheaper than an iPad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954946</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954784</id>
	<title>Re:Too Small</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264758720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes! This will never fit a good game of beer-pong.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes !
This will never fit a good game of beer-pong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes!
This will never fit a good game of beer-pong.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956290</id>
	<title>Laughable.</title>
	<author>ChaosDiscord</author>
	<datestamp>1264764960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The 9.7-inch multi-touch screen is perfect for playing board games at home....</p></div></blockquote><p>I guess if you just play Chess, Go, and maybe the occasional game of Monopoly, it might be perfect for you.  Maybe.  I'd hate to play Chess on such a small board and I would loathe to play Go.  If you're really into board games it's obviously crap for most games.  The big problem: "screen" size.  Most board games use a play area that is significantly larger than the 10" diagonal that the iPad offers.  I can see different parts of the board in detail with the fastest, most intuitive interface ever: my eyes.  Other people playing with my in person can look at other areas simultaneously.  If I have a hand of cards, I can see them without needing to simultaneously obscure the board.  If I need to move a piece or set of pieces, a touchscreen isn't bad, but a tactile experience is superior and has zero learning curve.

</p><p>I can envision games that port reasonably well to the iPad. I can envision "board" games designed specifically for the iPad that rock.  Something like Microsoft's Surface would really rock for many purposes, but the iPad has a clear portability win.  (Of course, the iPhone is even more portable.)  There may be merit to board gaming on the iPad.  But as the "perfect" solution for playing board games it's laughable.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The 9.7-inch multi-touch screen is perfect for playing board games at home....I guess if you just play Chess , Go , and maybe the occasional game of Monopoly , it might be perfect for you .
Maybe. I 'd hate to play Chess on such a small board and I would loathe to play Go .
If you 're really into board games it 's obviously crap for most games .
The big problem : " screen " size .
Most board games use a play area that is significantly larger than the 10 " diagonal that the iPad offers .
I can see different parts of the board in detail with the fastest , most intuitive interface ever : my eyes .
Other people playing with my in person can look at other areas simultaneously .
If I have a hand of cards , I can see them without needing to simultaneously obscure the board .
If I need to move a piece or set of pieces , a touchscreen is n't bad , but a tactile experience is superior and has zero learning curve .
I can envision games that port reasonably well to the iPad .
I can envision " board " games designed specifically for the iPad that rock .
Something like Microsoft 's Surface would really rock for many purposes , but the iPad has a clear portability win .
( Of course , the iPhone is even more portable .
) There may be merit to board gaming on the iPad .
But as the " perfect " solution for playing board games it 's laughable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The 9.7-inch multi-touch screen is perfect for playing board games at home....I guess if you just play Chess, Go, and maybe the occasional game of Monopoly, it might be perfect for you.
Maybe.  I'd hate to play Chess on such a small board and I would loathe to play Go.
If you're really into board games it's obviously crap for most games.
The big problem: "screen" size.
Most board games use a play area that is significantly larger than the 10" diagonal that the iPad offers.
I can see different parts of the board in detail with the fastest, most intuitive interface ever: my eyes.
Other people playing with my in person can look at other areas simultaneously.
If I have a hand of cards, I can see them without needing to simultaneously obscure the board.
If I need to move a piece or set of pieces, a touchscreen isn't bad, but a tactile experience is superior and has zero learning curve.
I can envision games that port reasonably well to the iPad.
I can envision "board" games designed specifically for the iPad that rock.
Something like Microsoft's Surface would really rock for many purposes, but the iPad has a clear portability win.
(Of course, the iPhone is even more portable.
)  There may be merit to board gaming on the iPad.
But as the "perfect" solution for playing board games it's laughable.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954700</id>
	<title>yay</title>
	<author>SeanFlotre</author>
	<datestamp>1264758420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>a 600$ board game! what fun! give me a break. reaching..really reaching.</htmltext>
<tokenext>a 600 $ board game !
what fun !
give me a break .
reaching..really reaching .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a 600$ board game!
what fun!
give me a break.
reaching..really reaching.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955652</id>
	<title>Have I missed something?</title>
	<author>DiamondGeezer</author>
	<datestamp>1264762140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I must have skipped the pre-worship but as far as I can see, the iPad is an iPod Touch with a bigger screen. Did I miss anything out?<br> <br>

It's not a tablet computer because its been deliberately crippled, its an appliance just like the iPod Touch.<br> <br>

If the fanboys want a real Apple Tablet then its already out there and its only partially made by Apple: the <a href="http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbook" title="axiotron.com">Modbook</a> [axiotron.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I must have skipped the pre-worship but as far as I can see , the iPad is an iPod Touch with a bigger screen .
Did I miss anything out ?
It 's not a tablet computer because its been deliberately crippled , its an appliance just like the iPod Touch .
If the fanboys want a real Apple Tablet then its already out there and its only partially made by Apple : the Modbook [ axiotron.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I must have skipped the pre-worship but as far as I can see, the iPad is an iPod Touch with a bigger screen.
Did I miss anything out?
It's not a tablet computer because its been deliberately crippled, its an appliance just like the iPod Touch.
If the fanboys want a real Apple Tablet then its already out there and its only partially made by Apple: the Modbook [axiotron.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954550</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264757940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>wow, that would be the most expensive board game ever... no thanks. The cardboard works just fine and doesn't have a monthly fee.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>wow , that would be the most expensive board game ever... no thanks .
The cardboard works just fine and does n't have a monthly fee .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wow, that would be the most expensive board game ever... no thanks.
The cardboard works just fine and doesn't have a monthly fee.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954470</id>
	<title>Re:solution in search of a problem</title>
	<author>mister\_playboy</author>
	<datestamp>1264757580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You must be describing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratego" title="wikipedia.org">Stratego?</a> [wikipedia.org] Great game!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You must be describing Stratego ?
[ wikipedia.org ] Great game !
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must be describing Stratego?
[wikipedia.org] Great game!
:D</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955332</id>
	<title>Re:No magic</title>
	<author>Ogive17</author>
	<datestamp>1264760820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What happens if Apple revokes your access to the bits?  Afterall, you're only liscensing the software you paid for through the Apple store.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What happens if Apple revokes your access to the bits ?
Afterall , you 're only liscensing the software you paid for through the Apple store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What happens if Apple revokes your access to the bits?
Afterall, you're only liscensing the software you paid for through the Apple store.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954382</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954336</id>
	<title>Board Games?</title>
	<author>Jorl17</author>
	<datestamp>1264756980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The new IPad is here to help us clean our asses, not to help us shove pieces up into others'.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The new IPad is here to help us clean our asses , not to help us shove pieces up into others' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new IPad is here to help us clean our asses, not to help us shove pieces up into others'.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955994</id>
	<title>Re:Size</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264763700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Definitely too small. How are we going to be able to play Twister on this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Definitely too small .
How are we going to be able to play Twister on this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Definitely too small.
How are we going to be able to play Twister on this?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954164</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954742</id>
	<title>Has Apple Created the Perfect Board Game Platform?</title>
	<author>Phizzle</author>
	<datestamp>1264758540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>NO</b></htmltext>
<tokenext>NO</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NO</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954650</id>
	<title>Cheating at Scrabble . . . ?</title>
	<author>PolygamousRanchKid </author>
	<datestamp>1264758300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's an app for that!  It gives you whatever letter you need!
</p><p>Most of my childhood board games ended up with one of the kids throwing a tantrum and whacking the other kids over the head with the game board.
</p><p>Dad comes home now and wonders why there is a Shroud of Turin like indentation in his iPad, and why his sons' faces are all bandaged up.
</p><p>Isn't low tech good enough here . . . ? Cardboard is flimsy, but doesn't cause concussions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's an app for that !
It gives you whatever letter you need !
Most of my childhood board games ended up with one of the kids throwing a tantrum and whacking the other kids over the head with the game board .
Dad comes home now and wonders why there is a Shroud of Turin like indentation in his iPad , and why his sons ' faces are all bandaged up .
Is n't low tech good enough here .
. .
? Cardboard is flimsy , but does n't cause concussions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's an app for that!
It gives you whatever letter you need!
Most of my childhood board games ended up with one of the kids throwing a tantrum and whacking the other kids over the head with the game board.
Dad comes home now and wonders why there is a Shroud of Turin like indentation in his iPad, and why his sons' faces are all bandaged up.
Isn't low tech good enough here .
. .
? Cardboard is flimsy, but doesn't cause concussions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954210</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1264756560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, heavy cardboard wrapped in a plastic-like material...but you get my point.</p><p>-1 for replying to myself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , heavy cardboard wrapped in a plastic-like material...but you get my point.-1 for replying to myself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, heavy cardboard wrapped in a plastic-like material...but you get my point.-1 for replying to myself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954154</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955990</id>
	<title>Re:solution in search of a problem</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1264763640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>well, my my, is it the Apple thought police or some other reason why the parent comment is moderated the way it is moderated?   Whatever that comment is, I really need to find out why it is moderated 'Flamebait'?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>well , my my , is it the Apple thought police or some other reason why the parent comment is moderated the way it is moderated ?
Whatever that comment is , I really need to find out why it is moderated 'Flamebait ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well, my my, is it the Apple thought police or some other reason why the parent comment is moderated the way it is moderated?
Whatever that comment is, I really need to find out why it is moderated 'Flamebait'?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954618</id>
	<title>Re:solution in search of a problem</title>
	<author>ElSupreme</author>
	<datestamp>1264758180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stratego. I assume that you are talking about this game. And yes impossible to play without 2 individual and private screens. Because you have to watch the other player move, and still be able to see all your pieces.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stratego .
I assume that you are talking about this game .
And yes impossible to play without 2 individual and private screens .
Because you have to watch the other player move , and still be able to see all your pieces .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stratego.
I assume that you are talking about this game.
And yes impossible to play without 2 individual and private screens.
Because you have to watch the other player move, and still be able to see all your pieces.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954766</id>
	<title>Microsoft Surface</title>
	<author>dutchdabomb</author>
	<datestamp>1264758660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems like <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/surface/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Surface</a> [microsoft.com] would actually do better. There you get a full-table touch screen instead of a 9.7'' that you have to pass around, scroll on, etc. Of course it's wildly expensive and not so available, but we're talking about the "perfect" not the "practical".</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems like Microsoft Surface [ microsoft.com ] would actually do better .
There you get a full-table touch screen instead of a 9.7' ' that you have to pass around , scroll on , etc .
Of course it 's wildly expensive and not so available , but we 're talking about the " perfect " not the " practical " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems like Microsoft Surface [microsoft.com] would actually do better.
There you get a full-table touch screen instead of a 9.7'' that you have to pass around, scroll on, etc.
Of course it's wildly expensive and not so available, but we're talking about the "perfect" not the "practical".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954422</id>
	<title>Re:solution in search of a problem</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1264757340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ha, now I remember, it's called Stratego.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ha , now I remember , it 's called Stratego .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ha, now I remember, it's called Stratego.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954286</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954670</id>
	<title>stupid, stupid, stupid</title>
	<author>thedbp</author>
	<datestamp>1264758300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, rich people with tons of cash to burn who care more about technology than connecting with family would see this as a great board game platform.  The rest of us will continue to enjoy the company of our friends and family with decidedly low-tech but perfectly useful cardboard, and focus more on the interactions and fun than the tech and "ooh ahh" factor.</p><p>This is really stretching.  It seems people are going to obscene lengths to try to make the iPad look less ho-hum that it really is.</p><p>Apple really failed on this one, HARD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , rich people with tons of cash to burn who care more about technology than connecting with family would see this as a great board game platform .
The rest of us will continue to enjoy the company of our friends and family with decidedly low-tech but perfectly useful cardboard , and focus more on the interactions and fun than the tech and " ooh ahh " factor.This is really stretching .
It seems people are going to obscene lengths to try to make the iPad look less ho-hum that it really is.Apple really failed on this one , HARD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, rich people with tons of cash to burn who care more about technology than connecting with family would see this as a great board game platform.
The rest of us will continue to enjoy the company of our friends and family with decidedly low-tech but perfectly useful cardboard, and focus more on the interactions and fun than the tech and "ooh ahh" factor.This is really stretching.
It seems people are going to obscene lengths to try to make the iPad look less ho-hum that it really is.Apple really failed on this one, HARD.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954446</id>
	<title>Re:solution in search of a problem</title>
	<author>jfim</author>
	<datestamp>1264757520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I used to play a board game similar to Risk, that had tokens, little standing cards, the value of which were only visible to me.  So you have an army and the opponent has an army, you see various soldiers, but you don't know what they are.  Some tokens are soldiers, some are mines, there is one that is the flag.  The idea is to capture the flag by 'attacking' it.  When one player attacks the other, he challenges the opponent's token soldier with his own.  Now the soldiers are compared, if one has a higher rank, he wins, the opponent's token is removed.  If both are the same rank, both are removed.</p></div><p>Are you talking about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratego" title="wikipedia.org">Stratego</a> [wikipedia.org]?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to play a board game similar to Risk , that had tokens , little standing cards , the value of which were only visible to me .
So you have an army and the opponent has an army , you see various soldiers , but you do n't know what they are .
Some tokens are soldiers , some are mines , there is one that is the flag .
The idea is to capture the flag by 'attacking ' it .
When one player attacks the other , he challenges the opponent 's token soldier with his own .
Now the soldiers are compared , if one has a higher rank , he wins , the opponent 's token is removed .
If both are the same rank , both are removed.Are you talking about Stratego [ wikipedia.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to play a board game similar to Risk, that had tokens, little standing cards, the value of which were only visible to me.
So you have an army and the opponent has an army, you see various soldiers, but you don't know what they are.
Some tokens are soldiers, some are mines, there is one that is the flag.
The idea is to capture the flag by 'attacking' it.
When one player attacks the other, he challenges the opponent's token soldier with his own.
Now the soldiers are compared, if one has a higher rank, he wins, the opponent's token is removed.
If both are the same rank, both are removed.Are you talking about Stratego [wikipedia.org]?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956296</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>mbourgon</author>
	<datestamp>1264764960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I play Arkham Horror.  Main game was $50.  Optional expansions are $20 (card-only) and $40 (cards plus extra board pieces).  We have 3 or 4 of the expansions now, and are trying to figure the best way to set it up, since it takes up most of a sheet of plywood.</p><p>I'm about to buy a piece of melamine and put in metal stops, so that we can more easily keep track of pieces.  It's the one down side to the game - so many moving parts.  (that being said, the game itself is awesome - a cooperative lite-RPG game where you all work together.  Like doing an old-school RPG, but not as deep and without a DM needed)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I play Arkham Horror .
Main game was $ 50 .
Optional expansions are $ 20 ( card-only ) and $ 40 ( cards plus extra board pieces ) .
We have 3 or 4 of the expansions now , and are trying to figure the best way to set it up , since it takes up most of a sheet of plywood.I 'm about to buy a piece of melamine and put in metal stops , so that we can more easily keep track of pieces .
It 's the one down side to the game - so many moving parts .
( that being said , the game itself is awesome - a cooperative lite-RPG game where you all work together .
Like doing an old-school RPG , but not as deep and without a DM needed )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I play Arkham Horror.
Main game was $50.
Optional expansions are $20 (card-only) and $40 (cards plus extra board pieces).
We have 3 or 4 of the expansions now, and are trying to figure the best way to set it up, since it takes up most of a sheet of plywood.I'm about to buy a piece of melamine and put in metal stops, so that we can more easily keep track of pieces.
It's the one down side to the game - so many moving parts.
(that being said, the game itself is awesome - a cooperative lite-RPG game where you all work together.
Like doing an old-school RPG, but not as deep and without a DM needed)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954922</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>KDR\_11k</author>
	<datestamp>1264759200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even Agricola with its insane amount of material was about 40&euro; IIRC (may have been 30), what exactly are you buying, gold plated Monopoly? Some game with a novelty electronic thing like a card thrower?</p><p>Speaking of Agricola, I don't think that'd work well on the iPad if you wanted more than one player on the device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even Agricola with its insane amount of material was about 40    IIRC ( may have been 30 ) , what exactly are you buying , gold plated Monopoly ?
Some game with a novelty electronic thing like a card thrower ? Speaking of Agricola , I do n't think that 'd work well on the iPad if you wanted more than one player on the device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even Agricola with its insane amount of material was about 40€ IIRC (may have been 30), what exactly are you buying, gold plated Monopoly?
Some game with a novelty electronic thing like a card thrower?Speaking of Agricola, I don't think that'd work well on the iPad if you wanted more than one player on the device.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955318</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>filterban</author>
	<datestamp>1264760760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny response, but unfortunately, iPhones and iPads are capable of other things, so your argument loses most of its luster.
<p>
Did you have the following sentiment when Microsoft Word for Windows was announced in 1989?
</p><p>
<i>"So, for only $2000  (for the computer) + $500 (for the printer) + $500 (for the software) , you can use a typewriter electronically!  You get a delete key, and you don't have to worry about where to put that $3000 in cash you would still have!"</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny response , but unfortunately , iPhones and iPads are capable of other things , so your argument loses most of its luster .
Did you have the following sentiment when Microsoft Word for Windows was announced in 1989 ?
" So , for only $ 2000 ( for the computer ) + $ 500 ( for the printer ) + $ 500 ( for the software ) , you can use a typewriter electronically !
You get a delete key , and you do n't have to worry about where to put that $ 3000 in cash you would still have !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny response, but unfortunately, iPhones and iPads are capable of other things, so your argument loses most of its luster.
Did you have the following sentiment when Microsoft Word for Windows was announced in 1989?
"So, for only $2000  (for the computer) + $500 (for the printer) + $500 (for the software) , you can use a typewriter electronically!
You get a delete key, and you don't have to worry about where to put that $3000 in cash you would still have!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954166</id>
	<title>Of course!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264756440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>None of that is possible with any other tablets or cell phones!  Once again, Apple rules the world by being first at everything!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>None of that is possible with any other tablets or cell phones !
Once again , Apple rules the world by being first at everything !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>None of that is possible with any other tablets or cell phones!
Once again, Apple rules the world by being first at everything!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954946</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>WaXHeLL</author>
	<datestamp>1264759320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most people who play board games really don't sit around and play Scrabble and Monopoly all the time.</p><p>They play games like:<br>Settlers of Catan<br>Power Grid<br>Runewars<br>Puerto Rico<br>Dominion</p><p>etc</p><p>All of those are not cheap at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people who play board games really do n't sit around and play Scrabble and Monopoly all the time.They play games like : Settlers of CatanPower GridRunewarsPuerto RicoDominionetcAll of those are not cheap at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people who play board games really don't sit around and play Scrabble and Monopoly all the time.They play games like:Settlers of CatanPower GridRunewarsPuerto RicoDominionetcAll of those are not cheap at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955384</id>
	<title>Re:Too Small</title>
	<author>pmontra</author>
	<datestamp>1264761060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A 10" board game is definitely not feasible. Not today's board games anyway, which require all players sitting around the same table and be able to study the board and move pieces around. It's too small. Maybe somebody will start designing board games for a 10" screen and remote players. But those won't be like what we use to play now with our friends. Conclusion: not a platform to replace board games as we know them. Maybe a competitor for PC games.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A 10 " board game is definitely not feasible .
Not today 's board games anyway , which require all players sitting around the same table and be able to study the board and move pieces around .
It 's too small .
Maybe somebody will start designing board games for a 10 " screen and remote players .
But those wo n't be like what we use to play now with our friends .
Conclusion : not a platform to replace board games as we know them .
Maybe a competitor for PC games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A 10" board game is definitely not feasible.
Not today's board games anyway, which require all players sitting around the same table and be able to study the board and move pieces around.
It's too small.
Maybe somebody will start designing board games for a 10" screen and remote players.
But those won't be like what we use to play now with our friends.
Conclusion: not a platform to replace board games as we know them.
Maybe a competitor for PC games.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955644</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>ottothecow</author>
	<datestamp>1264762080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some of the boutique board games can get pretty pricey.<p>

Of course most of them are pretty complicated so unless you have dedicated board game playing friends (in which case $100 for a game probably doesn't phase you), the games will just sit on the shelves.  Even games like risk (or even monopoly) stay on the shelves because people don't want to spend the time to play them through since the games can get extremely long if nobody fouls up at the start.</p><p>

I think most of the games I play with my friends came from ebay/thrift stores (although it explains why sometimes we don't get the pop culture trivia).  Most of them are games that are easy to stop/start/change number of players (and usually explain the rules easily).  Games like catch phrase, taboo, cutthroat uno, or pit win out over games with long setup times and rigid player structures (team games also help...since losing a teammate doesn't kill the game like losing a player in Risk might).</p><p>

Having an ipad or a multitouch tabletop could be a good way solve setup times, rules calls (only allow legal moves so no arguments about bad wording in the instructions) and missing players (subbing in a mediocre AI player if somebody has to go home).  the ipad might not be big enough for this to be a great plan with more than a few people...but it might get developers thinking</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some of the boutique board games can get pretty pricey .
Of course most of them are pretty complicated so unless you have dedicated board game playing friends ( in which case $ 100 for a game probably does n't phase you ) , the games will just sit on the shelves .
Even games like risk ( or even monopoly ) stay on the shelves because people do n't want to spend the time to play them through since the games can get extremely long if nobody fouls up at the start .
I think most of the games I play with my friends came from ebay/thrift stores ( although it explains why sometimes we do n't get the pop culture trivia ) .
Most of them are games that are easy to stop/start/change number of players ( and usually explain the rules easily ) .
Games like catch phrase , taboo , cutthroat uno , or pit win out over games with long setup times and rigid player structures ( team games also help...since losing a teammate does n't kill the game like losing a player in Risk might ) .
Having an ipad or a multitouch tabletop could be a good way solve setup times , rules calls ( only allow legal moves so no arguments about bad wording in the instructions ) and missing players ( subbing in a mediocre AI player if somebody has to go home ) .
the ipad might not be big enough for this to be a great plan with more than a few people...but it might get developers thinking</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some of the boutique board games can get pretty pricey.
Of course most of them are pretty complicated so unless you have dedicated board game playing friends (in which case $100 for a game probably doesn't phase you), the games will just sit on the shelves.
Even games like risk (or even monopoly) stay on the shelves because people don't want to spend the time to play them through since the games can get extremely long if nobody fouls up at the start.
I think most of the games I play with my friends came from ebay/thrift stores (although it explains why sometimes we don't get the pop culture trivia).
Most of them are games that are easy to stop/start/change number of players (and usually explain the rules easily).
Games like catch phrase, taboo, cutthroat uno, or pit win out over games with long setup times and rigid player structures (team games also help...since losing a teammate doesn't kill the game like losing a player in Risk might).
Having an ipad or a multitouch tabletop could be a good way solve setup times, rules calls (only allow legal moves so no arguments about bad wording in the instructions) and missing players (subbing in a mediocre AI player if somebody has to go home).
the ipad might not be big enough for this to be a great plan with more than a few people...but it might get developers thinking</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955886</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264763280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously? According to Hasbro, as of early 2008, more than 250 million copies of Monopoly have been sold worldwide. You mean to tell me there are more than that playing those games? You could say that they are not the only game but they still are the leading sellers so from a marketing perspective you are wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
According to Hasbro , as of early 2008 , more than 250 million copies of Monopoly have been sold worldwide .
You mean to tell me there are more than that playing those games ?
You could say that they are not the only game but they still are the leading sellers so from a marketing perspective you are wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
According to Hasbro, as of early 2008, more than 250 million copies of Monopoly have been sold worldwide.
You mean to tell me there are more than that playing those games?
You could say that they are not the only game but they still are the leading sellers so from a marketing perspective you are wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954476</id>
	<title>Re:Too Small</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264757640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you are still very much "unplugged" since the retarded little device can only run one thing at a time.  While you are playing that game, you won't be getting any music, popups, IMs, or email.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you are still very much " unplugged " since the retarded little device can only run one thing at a time .
While you are playing that game , you wo n't be getting any music , popups , IMs , or email .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you are still very much "unplugged" since the retarded little device can only run one thing at a time.
While you are playing that game, you won't be getting any music, popups, IMs, or email.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30961404</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>ByteSlicer</author>
	<datestamp>1264858740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>For $499 + $299/phone <b>plus $75/electronic game </b>you can play every $75 board game electronically, and watch video in your lap, and surf the web, and take calls (though not conveniently), and control your other home devices.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Fixed that for you. Or did you really think the electronic version of the game would come any cheaper?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For $ 499 + $ 299/phone plus $ 75/electronic game you can play every $ 75 board game electronically , and watch video in your lap , and surf the web , and take calls ( though not conveniently ) , and control your other home devices .
Fixed that for you .
Or did you really think the electronic version of the game would come any cheaper ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For $499 + $299/phone plus $75/electronic game you can play every $75 board game electronically, and watch video in your lap, and surf the web, and take calls (though not conveniently), and control your other home devices.
Fixed that for you.
Or did you really think the electronic version of the game would come any cheaper?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954398</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264757220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>$75? Would that be for a gemstone-encrusted version?</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 75 ?
Would that be for a gemstone-encrusted version ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$75?
Would that be for a gemstone-encrusted version?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954646</id>
	<title>Go</title>
	<author>sqrt(2)</author>
	<datestamp>1264758240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It looks like a nice device on which to play <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go\_(game)" title="wikipedia.org">Go</a> [wikipedia.org]. You wouldn't have to worry about pieces being moved or storing the game and continuing later. Although playing with real stones on a real board is nice just because of the tactile experience.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like a nice device on which to play Go [ wikipedia.org ] .
You would n't have to worry about pieces being moved or storing the game and continuing later .
Although playing with real stones on a real board is nice just because of the tactile experience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like a nice device on which to play Go [wikipedia.org].
You wouldn't have to worry about pieces being moved or storing the game and continuing later.
Although playing with real stones on a real board is nice just because of the tactile experience.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954384</id>
	<title>Not really...</title>
	<author>minsk</author>
	<datestamp>1264757220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The iPad: If you're too nerdy to attend the chess club in person.

<p>But, seriously, implementing board games well on a computer demands a lot more than a small touch-sensitive display. Simple non-social games are easier, but they work just fine on a traditional PC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad : If you 're too nerdy to attend the chess club in person .
But , seriously , implementing board games well on a computer demands a lot more than a small touch-sensitive display .
Simple non-social games are easier , but they work just fine on a traditional PC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad: If you're too nerdy to attend the chess club in person.
But, seriously, implementing board games well on a computer demands a lot more than a small touch-sensitive display.
Simple non-social games are easier, but they work just fine on a traditional PC.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955414</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>Haeleth</author>
	<datestamp>1264761180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Ignore the cost of the phone. Everyone has a phone (well, everyone who counts, anyway, and soon that will be everyone for all practical values of "everyone").</p></div></blockquote><p>Everyone has <b>a</b> phone.  Relatively few people have iPhones.</p><p>Do you really think Apple is going to let iPad apps interact with Symbian, Android, or Windows Mobile devices?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ignore the cost of the phone .
Everyone has a phone ( well , everyone who counts , anyway , and soon that will be everyone for all practical values of " everyone " ) .Everyone has a phone .
Relatively few people have iPhones.Do you really think Apple is going to let iPad apps interact with Symbian , Android , or Windows Mobile devices ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ignore the cost of the phone.
Everyone has a phone (well, everyone who counts, anyway, and soon that will be everyone for all practical values of "everyone").Everyone has a phone.
Relatively few people have iPhones.Do you really think Apple is going to let iPad apps interact with Symbian, Android, or Windows Mobile devices?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956684</id>
	<title>The bit of this mess that I think is interesting..</title>
	<author>Tetsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1264766520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tons of comments here about how it's a waste to use a $500 computer to play a simple board game...  And rightly so, I'd say.  It seems like a real stretch, looking for a defense of the iPad.  <strong>But</strong>...  if you ignore the cost issue <em>and look beyond traditional board games</em> I think this is an interesting idea.</p><p>Basically - you could play a "board-game" style game on just about <em>any</em> kind of computer - but some are better than others.  If I play chess or scrabble with someone next to me, using my phone as the game board, then we pretty much have to switch back and forth - meaning that when one person is taking their turn, it's difficult for other people to think about theirs.  A game console like the Wii or PS3 also works, but these tend to be fixed in location, which isn't ideal - plus everyone's focus is directed toward the single monitor, it diffuses the social aspect a bit, I think.  A tablet-style machine like this presents a very tactile experience - a game board that's easy to gather around (as long as the display has a good viewing angle range), turn, move, etc. as necessary.  In terms of how the <em>interaction</em> works, it is uniquely capable of presenting a game in the same way as a board game is presented.</p><p>Where this could be really neat, I think, is in terms of how this could potentially lead to different kinds of board-game-style games...  Things that still work kind of like board games but take advantage of the computer's involvement, too.  It'd be interesting to see how that could play out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tons of comments here about how it 's a waste to use a $ 500 computer to play a simple board game... And rightly so , I 'd say .
It seems like a real stretch , looking for a defense of the iPad .
But... if you ignore the cost issue and look beyond traditional board games I think this is an interesting idea.Basically - you could play a " board-game " style game on just about any kind of computer - but some are better than others .
If I play chess or scrabble with someone next to me , using my phone as the game board , then we pretty much have to switch back and forth - meaning that when one person is taking their turn , it 's difficult for other people to think about theirs .
A game console like the Wii or PS3 also works , but these tend to be fixed in location , which is n't ideal - plus everyone 's focus is directed toward the single monitor , it diffuses the social aspect a bit , I think .
A tablet-style machine like this presents a very tactile experience - a game board that 's easy to gather around ( as long as the display has a good viewing angle range ) , turn , move , etc .
as necessary .
In terms of how the interaction works , it is uniquely capable of presenting a game in the same way as a board game is presented.Where this could be really neat , I think , is in terms of how this could potentially lead to different kinds of board-game-style games... Things that still work kind of like board games but take advantage of the computer 's involvement , too .
It 'd be interesting to see how that could play out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tons of comments here about how it's a waste to use a $500 computer to play a simple board game...  And rightly so, I'd say.
It seems like a real stretch, looking for a defense of the iPad.
But...  if you ignore the cost issue and look beyond traditional board games I think this is an interesting idea.Basically - you could play a "board-game" style game on just about any kind of computer - but some are better than others.
If I play chess or scrabble with someone next to me, using my phone as the game board, then we pretty much have to switch back and forth - meaning that when one person is taking their turn, it's difficult for other people to think about theirs.
A game console like the Wii or PS3 also works, but these tend to be fixed in location, which isn't ideal - plus everyone's focus is directed toward the single monitor, it diffuses the social aspect a bit, I think.
A tablet-style machine like this presents a very tactile experience - a game board that's easy to gather around (as long as the display has a good viewing angle range), turn, move, etc.
as necessary.
In terms of how the interaction works, it is uniquely capable of presenting a game in the same way as a board game is presented.Where this could be really neat, I think, is in terms of how this could potentially lead to different kinds of board-game-style games...  Things that still work kind of like board games but take advantage of the computer's involvement, too.
It'd be interesting to see how that could play out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954886</id>
	<title>This is an ironic article, right?</title>
	<author>RightSaidFred99</author>
	<datestamp>1264759080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously - what has Apple "created"?  You do know the concept of a Tablet PC was around for a long, long time before Apple "invented" the shit out of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously - what has Apple " created " ?
You do know the concept of a Tablet PC was around for a long , long time before Apple " invented " the shit out of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously - what has Apple "created"?
You do know the concept of a Tablet PC was around for a long, long time before Apple "invented" the shit out of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30958546</id>
	<title>Wrong way round</title>
	<author>xyph0r</author>
	<datestamp>1264778580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well sure, let's invent a product and THEN come up with ideas for how to use it. That seems like a cool idea! It worked with the Wii after all...<br>
remind me again, what market does the iPad fill? Oh thats right, the 'I'll buy anything with an apple logo on it' market.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well sure , let 's invent a product and THEN come up with ideas for how to use it .
That seems like a cool idea !
It worked with the Wii after all.. . remind me again , what market does the iPad fill ?
Oh thats right , the 'I 'll buy anything with an apple logo on it ' market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well sure, let's invent a product and THEN come up with ideas for how to use it.
That seems like a cool idea!
It worked with the Wii after all...
remind me again, what market does the iPad fill?
Oh thats right, the 'I'll buy anything with an apple logo on it' market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30958230</id>
	<title>Re:Too Small</title>
	<author>Nightspirit</author>
	<datestamp>1264775700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If MS Surface came down to $1k this would be feasible (even better if it was holographic), but otherwise the ipad is a great boardgame platform: for one person.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If MS Surface came down to $ 1k this would be feasible ( even better if it was holographic ) , but otherwise the ipad is a great boardgame platform : for one person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If MS Surface came down to $1k this would be feasible (even better if it was holographic), but otherwise the ipad is a great boardgame platform: for one person.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955082</id>
	<title>Re:Board game? Maybe. Audio Controller? Yes.</title>
	<author>Xiterion</author>
	<datestamp>1264759740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While we're at it, can we convince the people that design audio interfaces that gui knobs don't work?  They're a bear to run with a mouse and have next to no precision.  I'd rather have a text box for the small, inexpensive, not written to often control.  Sliders are fine though, and would totally rock on that interface.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While we 're at it , can we convince the people that design audio interfaces that gui knobs do n't work ?
They 're a bear to run with a mouse and have next to no precision .
I 'd rather have a text box for the small , inexpensive , not written to often control .
Sliders are fine though , and would totally rock on that interface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While we're at it, can we convince the people that design audio interfaces that gui knobs don't work?
They're a bear to run with a mouse and have next to no precision.
I'd rather have a text box for the small, inexpensive, not written to often control.
Sliders are fine though, and would totally rock on that interface.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954326</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954576</id>
	<title>Re:Board game? Maybe. Audio Controller? Yes.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264758060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First of all, it's never gonna be a custom audio controller interface, because it lacks an audio input channel.</p><p>But as a custom midi controller (would still have to be midi via wifi which isn't great) it could provide interesting customization possibilities. I would love to have several different setups of midi knobs or whatever interface works best with touchscreen. Physical midi controllers don't have to be very expensive though, for $250 you own a velocity sensitive usb midi keyboard and a controller with enough buttons and knobs to map your ass of. The software for turning the iPad into something of a serious competitor for physical midi surfaces has to be really, really good to make up for the expensive tablet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all , it 's never gon na be a custom audio controller interface , because it lacks an audio input channel.But as a custom midi controller ( would still have to be midi via wifi which is n't great ) it could provide interesting customization possibilities .
I would love to have several different setups of midi knobs or whatever interface works best with touchscreen .
Physical midi controllers do n't have to be very expensive though , for $ 250 you own a velocity sensitive usb midi keyboard and a controller with enough buttons and knobs to map your ass of .
The software for turning the iPad into something of a serious competitor for physical midi surfaces has to be really , really good to make up for the expensive tablet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all, it's never gonna be a custom audio controller interface, because it lacks an audio input channel.But as a custom midi controller (would still have to be midi via wifi which isn't great) it could provide interesting customization possibilities.
I would love to have several different setups of midi knobs or whatever interface works best with touchscreen.
Physical midi controllers don't have to be very expensive though, for $250 you own a velocity sensitive usb midi keyboard and a controller with enough buttons and knobs to map your ass of.
The software for turning the iPad into something of a serious competitor for physical midi surfaces has to be really, really good to make up for the expensive tablet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954326</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954180</id>
	<title>ok ill bite</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264756500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>get some cardboard, draw on it</p><p>man was that cheap.<br>now go pay apple</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>get some cardboard , draw on itman was that cheap.now go pay apple</tokentext>
<sentencetext>get some cardboard, draw on itman was that cheap.now go pay apple</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30961024</id>
	<title>Re:This is an ironic article, right?</title>
	<author>Neoprofin</author>
	<datestamp>1264852740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The question is why is <i>this</i> tablet perfect for board games and the dozens of other tablets that have been around for years were not? Cheaper tablets that aren't locked down? That already have boardgame software written for them? That people have already been using to play boardgames?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The question is why is this tablet perfect for board games and the dozens of other tablets that have been around for years were not ?
Cheaper tablets that are n't locked down ?
That already have boardgame software written for them ?
That people have already been using to play boardgames ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The question is why is this tablet perfect for board games and the dozens of other tablets that have been around for years were not?
Cheaper tablets that aren't locked down?
That already have boardgame software written for them?
That people have already been using to play boardgames?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956624</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954480</id>
	<title>iFail</title>
	<author>mhajicek</author>
	<datestamp>1264757640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're just desperate to find SOMETHING it'd good for.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're just desperate to find SOMETHING it 'd good for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're just desperate to find SOMETHING it'd good for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955126</id>
	<title>Here's a *CLASSIC* comment from the article....</title>
	<author>pandrijeczko</author>
	<datestamp>1264759980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>and because the iPad is a computer it can store <b>thousands</b> of games and add a variety of interactive features.</i></p><p>This is a great example of typical Fanboi "engage brain before mouth" syndrome. Let's look at this statement at bit more...</p><p>Firstly, it doesn't support Flash so you can't download and play the thousands of Flash games on the Internet.</p><p>Secondly, Apple doesn't make emulators available on the Apple store because of copyright restrictions - therefore there's no way of playing NES, Amiga, MAME or any other game ROMs on it, most of which would be tiny in size.</p><p>Thirdly, the biggest iPAD is 64GB which means that to get a "thousand" games on it, each game would need to average no more than 65MB.</p><p>Okay, I guess that's possible from a storage perspective, but how will that work from a UI perspective?</p><p>If each game has its own icon to select in order to play it, how many screens are you going to need to need to scroll through to get to one of the last games in your list of "thousands". Does the UI actually *SUPPORT* having that many screens of icons?</p><p>The author's comments just make NO sense...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and because the iPad is a computer it can store thousands of games and add a variety of interactive features.This is a great example of typical Fanboi " engage brain before mouth " syndrome .
Let 's look at this statement at bit more...Firstly , it does n't support Flash so you ca n't download and play the thousands of Flash games on the Internet.Secondly , Apple does n't make emulators available on the Apple store because of copyright restrictions - therefore there 's no way of playing NES , Amiga , MAME or any other game ROMs on it , most of which would be tiny in size.Thirdly , the biggest iPAD is 64GB which means that to get a " thousand " games on it , each game would need to average no more than 65MB.Okay , I guess that 's possible from a storage perspective , but how will that work from a UI perspective ? If each game has its own icon to select in order to play it , how many screens are you going to need to need to scroll through to get to one of the last games in your list of " thousands " .
Does the UI actually * SUPPORT * having that many screens of icons ? The author 's comments just make NO sense.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and because the iPad is a computer it can store thousands of games and add a variety of interactive features.This is a great example of typical Fanboi "engage brain before mouth" syndrome.
Let's look at this statement at bit more...Firstly, it doesn't support Flash so you can't download and play the thousands of Flash games on the Internet.Secondly, Apple doesn't make emulators available on the Apple store because of copyright restrictions - therefore there's no way of playing NES, Amiga, MAME or any other game ROMs on it, most of which would be tiny in size.Thirdly, the biggest iPAD is 64GB which means that to get a "thousand" games on it, each game would need to average no more than 65MB.Okay, I guess that's possible from a storage perspective, but how will that work from a UI perspective?If each game has its own icon to select in order to play it, how many screens are you going to need to need to scroll through to get to one of the last games in your list of "thousands".
Does the UI actually *SUPPORT* having that many screens of icons?The author's comments just make NO sense...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954518</id>
	<title>Kind of.</title>
	<author>josteos</author>
	<datestamp>1264757760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think it's a replacement for a multiplayer board game; the Family Game Night is in no danger  But it would make a great platform for me to sit in my barcalounger and play Magic or Bloodbowl  or Axis &amp; Allies against my friends on the other side of the country.  It's small enough to be portable and comfortable, but large enough to visualize the playfield manipulate the playing pieces.  Smack talk would be a lot easier with a webcam, tho.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it 's a replacement for a multiplayer board game ; the Family Game Night is in no danger But it would make a great platform for me to sit in my barcalounger and play Magic or Bloodbowl or Axis &amp; Allies against my friends on the other side of the country .
It 's small enough to be portable and comfortable , but large enough to visualize the playfield manipulate the playing pieces .
Smack talk would be a lot easier with a webcam , tho .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it's a replacement for a multiplayer board game; the Family Game Night is in no danger  But it would make a great platform for me to sit in my barcalounger and play Magic or Bloodbowl  or Axis &amp; Allies against my friends on the other side of the country.
It's small enough to be portable and comfortable, but large enough to visualize the playfield manipulate the playing pieces.
Smack talk would be a lot easier with a webcam, tho.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30959426</id>
	<title>FRPG tablet</title>
	<author>jsepeta</author>
	<datestamp>1264786800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm considering getting an iPad to use with D&amp;D. It would be neat to have an electronic character sheet + all the D&amp;D references in electronic format. I still want to roll real physical dice, not have a computer throw random numbers around. Usually I roll crappy anyway which gives my characters a certain flavor. Yes I could bring my laptop but the battery life sucks and the screen gets in the way of seeing the miniatures on the table map. $500 is kind of a lot to spend just for D&amp;D but if you add up all the crap I bought from Wizards last year, that adds up to well over $350 in books and subscription fees. And with the documentation in PDF format, it will be easier to search the content. I'll probably have to learn how to roll my own apps but I read that the iphone store has a client for filemaker - or was it bento? - so I'll probably start by developing in an app that I'm already familiar with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm considering getting an iPad to use with D&amp;D .
It would be neat to have an electronic character sheet + all the D&amp;D references in electronic format .
I still want to roll real physical dice , not have a computer throw random numbers around .
Usually I roll crappy anyway which gives my characters a certain flavor .
Yes I could bring my laptop but the battery life sucks and the screen gets in the way of seeing the miniatures on the table map .
$ 500 is kind of a lot to spend just for D&amp;D but if you add up all the crap I bought from Wizards last year , that adds up to well over $ 350 in books and subscription fees .
And with the documentation in PDF format , it will be easier to search the content .
I 'll probably have to learn how to roll my own apps but I read that the iphone store has a client for filemaker - or was it bento ?
- so I 'll probably start by developing in an app that I 'm already familiar with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm considering getting an iPad to use with D&amp;D.
It would be neat to have an electronic character sheet + all the D&amp;D references in electronic format.
I still want to roll real physical dice, not have a computer throw random numbers around.
Usually I roll crappy anyway which gives my characters a certain flavor.
Yes I could bring my laptop but the battery life sucks and the screen gets in the way of seeing the miniatures on the table map.
$500 is kind of a lot to spend just for D&amp;D but if you add up all the crap I bought from Wizards last year, that adds up to well over $350 in books and subscription fees.
And with the documentation in PDF format, it will be easier to search the content.
I'll probably have to learn how to roll my own apps but I read that the iphone store has a client for filemaker - or was it bento?
- so I'll probably start by developing in an app that I'm already familiar with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954984</id>
	<title>Touch based RTS</title>
	<author>FictionPimp</author>
	<datestamp>1264759380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't mind a touch based RTS. Use the TV as a battle overview for all players, then each player has a small hand held device that is their 'commanders view' where they can scroll around and give units commands via a touch interface.</p><p>It would be cool, but impractical.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't mind a touch based RTS .
Use the TV as a battle overview for all players , then each player has a small hand held device that is their 'commanders view ' where they can scroll around and give units commands via a touch interface.It would be cool , but impractical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't mind a touch based RTS.
Use the TV as a battle overview for all players, then each player has a small hand held device that is their 'commanders view' where they can scroll around and give units commands via a touch interface.It would be cool, but impractical.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956716</id>
	<title>Re:Board game? Maybe. Audio Controller? Yes.</title>
	<author>CornflakeJustice</author>
	<datestamp>1264766640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, I saw this, and realized that the iPad might make a really useful DJing tool. Small, portable with internet connectivity, the touch screen would be great for interfacing, allowing you to fade between multiple songs. Though the output system might need a bit of adjusting. At least that's what I thought of immediately after reading your response.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I saw this , and realized that the iPad might make a really useful DJing tool .
Small , portable with internet connectivity , the touch screen would be great for interfacing , allowing you to fade between multiple songs .
Though the output system might need a bit of adjusting .
At least that 's what I thought of immediately after reading your response .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I saw this, and realized that the iPad might make a really useful DJing tool.
Small, portable with internet connectivity, the touch screen would be great for interfacing, allowing you to fade between multiple songs.
Though the output system might need a bit of adjusting.
At least that's what I thought of immediately after reading your response.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954614</id>
	<title>(no need)</title>
	<author>BitterAndDrunk</author>
	<datestamp>1264758180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm already at +5 Insightful! I can't wait to tell my wife, ACTION FOR SURE!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm already at + 5 Insightful !
I ca n't wait to tell my wife , ACTION FOR SURE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm already at +5 Insightful!
I can't wait to tell my wife, ACTION FOR SURE!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954436</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30963108</id>
	<title>Board Games the ONLY Reason to Get an iPad, Right</title>
	<author>Wingsy</author>
	<datestamp>1264873740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I knew it. Most of the anti-iPad slashdotters naturally assume the OP is suggesting that the ONLY reason to get an iPad is for board games (that don't even exist yet). Don't they realize that their anti-iPad rhetoric is simply their anti-Apple bias shinning brightly?<br> <br>

If the iPad isn't for you, fine. You probably were never in Apple's sights anyway, and probably never will be. It does seem though that you can at least realize who it IS for. It's for my wife and people with her needs/wants, who lugs my MacBook off to work now &amp; then to do some browsing, facebook, and email during the slow times. Who knows, when she gets her iPad she may even strike up a game of checkers with one of the other employees, over half of which own iPhones &amp; iPods.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I knew it .
Most of the anti-iPad slashdotters naturally assume the OP is suggesting that the ONLY reason to get an iPad is for board games ( that do n't even exist yet ) .
Do n't they realize that their anti-iPad rhetoric is simply their anti-Apple bias shinning brightly ?
If the iPad is n't for you , fine .
You probably were never in Apple 's sights anyway , and probably never will be .
It does seem though that you can at least realize who it IS for .
It 's for my wife and people with her needs/wants , who lugs my MacBook off to work now &amp; then to do some browsing , facebook , and email during the slow times .
Who knows , when she gets her iPad she may even strike up a game of checkers with one of the other employees , over half of which own iPhones &amp; iPods .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I knew it.
Most of the anti-iPad slashdotters naturally assume the OP is suggesting that the ONLY reason to get an iPad is for board games (that don't even exist yet).
Don't they realize that their anti-iPad rhetoric is simply their anti-Apple bias shinning brightly?
If the iPad isn't for you, fine.
You probably were never in Apple's sights anyway, and probably never will be.
It does seem though that you can at least realize who it IS for.
It's for my wife and people with her needs/wants, who lugs my MacBook off to work now &amp; then to do some browsing, facebook, and email during the slow times.
Who knows, when she gets her iPad she may even strike up a game of checkers with one of the other employees, over half of which own iPhones &amp; iPods.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954702</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>Rene S. Hollan</author>
	<datestamp>1264758420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're missing the point.</p><p>For $499 + $299/phone you can play <b>every</b> $75 board game electronically, and watch video in your lap, and surf the web, and take calls (though not conveniently), and control your other home devices.</p><p>Ignore the cost of the phone. Everyone has a phone (well, everyone who counts, anyway, and soon that will be everyone for all practical values of "everyone"). Lets say $50 can be cut of the cost of the game by removing packaging and printing. Ten games at $25 each and you're ahead of the game. And it does not hog space on your shelf/closet.</p><p>Crap, the idea of digital storage of licensed content was appealing to me in the 1980s when I had a custom-built oak cabinet built to hold my CDs and cassettes. The hassle is identification: needing to connect the repository to some kind of device to identify content stored. Permanent NFS-mounting kind of fixes this, but you can't take the repository with you for casual viewing. Tablets make that possible within the realm of your wireless network.</p><p>Now, what if the tablet <b>was</b> the content repository? With local display? And portability? So, you <b>could</b> take <b>all</b> your movies, music, board games, class notes, etc. with you?</p><p>Playback on the device, or <i>UWB or 802.11n 'beam'</i> it to the big honking TV hooked up to the surround sound system?</p><p>I think there is a market for a device which is <i>the place where I keep all my 'stuff' so I can take it with me and see what it all is</i>: the PPCP: portable personal computing pad. Make syncing with phones, cameras, GPS devices easy. Have a bunch of flash ports for external data (USB and HDMI too).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're missing the point.For $ 499 + $ 299/phone you can play every $ 75 board game electronically , and watch video in your lap , and surf the web , and take calls ( though not conveniently ) , and control your other home devices.Ignore the cost of the phone .
Everyone has a phone ( well , everyone who counts , anyway , and soon that will be everyone for all practical values of " everyone " ) .
Lets say $ 50 can be cut of the cost of the game by removing packaging and printing .
Ten games at $ 25 each and you 're ahead of the game .
And it does not hog space on your shelf/closet.Crap , the idea of digital storage of licensed content was appealing to me in the 1980s when I had a custom-built oak cabinet built to hold my CDs and cassettes .
The hassle is identification : needing to connect the repository to some kind of device to identify content stored .
Permanent NFS-mounting kind of fixes this , but you ca n't take the repository with you for casual viewing .
Tablets make that possible within the realm of your wireless network.Now , what if the tablet was the content repository ?
With local display ?
And portability ?
So , you could take all your movies , music , board games , class notes , etc .
with you ? Playback on the device , or UWB or 802.11n 'beam ' it to the big honking TV hooked up to the surround sound system ? I think there is a market for a device which is the place where I keep all my 'stuff ' so I can take it with me and see what it all is : the PPCP : portable personal computing pad .
Make syncing with phones , cameras , GPS devices easy .
Have a bunch of flash ports for external data ( USB and HDMI too ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're missing the point.For $499 + $299/phone you can play every $75 board game electronically, and watch video in your lap, and surf the web, and take calls (though not conveniently), and control your other home devices.Ignore the cost of the phone.
Everyone has a phone (well, everyone who counts, anyway, and soon that will be everyone for all practical values of "everyone").
Lets say $50 can be cut of the cost of the game by removing packaging and printing.
Ten games at $25 each and you're ahead of the game.
And it does not hog space on your shelf/closet.Crap, the idea of digital storage of licensed content was appealing to me in the 1980s when I had a custom-built oak cabinet built to hold my CDs and cassettes.
The hassle is identification: needing to connect the repository to some kind of device to identify content stored.
Permanent NFS-mounting kind of fixes this, but you can't take the repository with you for casual viewing.
Tablets make that possible within the realm of your wireless network.Now, what if the tablet was the content repository?
With local display?
And portability?
So, you could take all your movies, music, board games, class notes, etc.
with you?Playback on the device, or UWB or 802.11n 'beam' it to the big honking TV hooked up to the surround sound system?I think there is a market for a device which is the place where I keep all my 'stuff' so I can take it with me and see what it all is: the PPCP: portable personal computing pad.
Make syncing with phones, cameras, GPS devices easy.
Have a bunch of flash ports for external data (USB and HDMI too).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955782</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>Bigbutt</author>
	<datestamp>1264762740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speaking of Fantasy Flight Games, I have Arkham Horror and the expansions. Each of the big boxes are $50 and the small ones are $25 I think. Roughly $325 for the set. So far.</p><p>It's a fun cooperative game and the group enjoys it. But it's not cheap.</p><p>[John]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking of Fantasy Flight Games , I have Arkham Horror and the expansions .
Each of the big boxes are $ 50 and the small ones are $ 25 I think .
Roughly $ 325 for the set .
So far.It 's a fun cooperative game and the group enjoys it .
But it 's not cheap .
[ John ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking of Fantasy Flight Games, I have Arkham Horror and the expansions.
Each of the big boxes are $50 and the small ones are $25 I think.
Roughly $325 for the set.
So far.It's a fun cooperative game and the group enjoys it.
But it's not cheap.
[John]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956676</id>
	<title>Re:It has a curved back...</title>
	<author>TRRosen</author>
	<datestamp>1264766460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>boy you Apple haters are really desperate huh?<br>The back is'nt spherical its rounded on the edges 80\% of the back is completely flat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>boy you Apple haters are really desperate huh ? The back is'nt spherical its rounded on the edges 80 \ % of the back is completely flat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>boy you Apple haters are really desperate huh?The back is'nt spherical its rounded on the edges 80\% of the back is completely flat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956960</id>
	<title>Also a multiplayer 'arcade/sports' game platform</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264768080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since it has a multitouch 9.7 screen, there are various cool applications that can be done on it:</p><p>-2 player or 4 player pong, where each player controls his/her pad with his/her finger.<br>-subbuteo (tabletop soccer)<br>-soccer/football<br>-pool (using a stylus in the role of the cue)<br>-the old qbasic Bananas game with the two players throwing simultaneously</p><p>Finally, there could be other uses for the iPad. For example, a digital turntable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since it has a multitouch 9.7 screen , there are various cool applications that can be done on it : -2 player or 4 player pong , where each player controls his/her pad with his/her finger.-subbuteo ( tabletop soccer ) -soccer/football-pool ( using a stylus in the role of the cue ) -the old qbasic Bananas game with the two players throwing simultaneouslyFinally , there could be other uses for the iPad .
For example , a digital turntable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since it has a multitouch 9.7 screen, there are various cool applications that can be done on it:-2 player or 4 player pong, where each player controls his/her pad with his/her finger.-subbuteo (tabletop soccer)-soccer/football-pool (using a stylus in the role of the cue)-the old qbasic Bananas game with the two players throwing simultaneouslyFinally, there could be other uses for the iPad.
For example, a digital turntable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956426</id>
	<title>Not totally, but...</title>
	<author>wfolta</author>
	<datestamp>1264765380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given that you already have an iPad for other applications, and have it with you, it would be nice for games. I'd love to see Goban ported to the iPad. It's not full-on Go without the sound of polished slate/shell slapping onto a block of wood, but it'd be much better than a vinyl board and plastic stones for a game when you're on the go, or a quick net game after lunch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that you already have an iPad for other applications , and have it with you , it would be nice for games .
I 'd love to see Goban ported to the iPad .
It 's not full-on Go without the sound of polished slate/shell slapping onto a block of wood , but it 'd be much better than a vinyl board and plastic stones for a game when you 're on the go , or a quick net game after lunch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that you already have an iPad for other applications, and have it with you, it would be nice for games.
I'd love to see Goban ported to the iPad.
It's not full-on Go without the sound of polished slate/shell slapping onto a block of wood, but it'd be much better than a vinyl board and plastic stones for a game when you're on the go, or a quick net game after lunch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954162</id>
	<title>Sure thing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264756440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>So for only $499 + $299/phone, you can play a $75 board game electronically! No messy setup, and you don't have to worry about where to put that almost $1000 in cash you would still have!</htmltext>
<tokenext>So for only $ 499 + $ 299/phone , you can play a $ 75 board game electronically !
No messy setup , and you do n't have to worry about where to put that almost $ 1000 in cash you would still have !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So for only $499 + $299/phone, you can play a $75 board game electronically!
No messy setup, and you don't have to worry about where to put that almost $1000 in cash you would still have!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956836</id>
	<title>Re:Have I missed something?</title>
	<author>TRRosen</author>
	<datestamp>1264767360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes you have missed something.</p><p>and yes it is a bigger faster higher resolution iPod touch.</p><p>And yes it is an appliance. Thats what you missed. Its an Appliance you just pick it up and use it. you never think about how it works it just does, bread goes in, toast comes out. in general people (maybe not slashdoters) don't want to use a computer. they want to play a game. They want to watch a movie. they want to read a book. they want to surf the web. They do not want to operate a computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes you have missed something.and yes it is a bigger faster higher resolution iPod touch.And yes it is an appliance .
Thats what you missed .
Its an Appliance you just pick it up and use it .
you never think about how it works it just does , bread goes in , toast comes out .
in general people ( maybe not slashdoters ) do n't want to use a computer .
they want to play a game .
They want to watch a movie .
they want to read a book .
they want to surf the web .
They do not want to operate a computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes you have missed something.and yes it is a bigger faster higher resolution iPod touch.And yes it is an appliance.
Thats what you missed.
Its an Appliance you just pick it up and use it.
you never think about how it works it just does, bread goes in, toast comes out.
in general people (maybe not slashdoters) don't want to use a computer.
they want to play a game.
They want to watch a movie.
they want to read a book.
they want to surf the web.
They do not want to operate a computer.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956902</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>ElSupreme</author>
	<datestamp>1264767780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Um there were lots of companies that decided just that. To write a few hundred form letters, you would save tons of typing time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Um there were lots of companies that decided just that .
To write a few hundred form letters , you would save tons of typing time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um there were lots of companies that decided just that.
To write a few hundred form letters, you would save tons of typing time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955720</id>
	<title>I think the chances are slim...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264762440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...that it would support <a href="http://www.vassalengine.org/" title="vassalengine.org" rel="nofollow">Vassal</a> [vassalengine.org], <a href="cyberboard.brainiac.com" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Cyberboard</a> [slashdot.org], or <a href="http://www.hpssims.com/pages/products/adc2/ADC2-Main.html" title="hpssims.com" rel="nofollow">Aide de Camp</a> [hpssims.com], the utilites boardgamers use to play boardgames across the internet.  More than likely, we'd have to settle for an App Store approved version of Monopoly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...that it would support Vassal [ vassalengine.org ] , Cyberboard [ slashdot.org ] , or Aide de Camp [ hpssims.com ] , the utilites boardgamers use to play boardgames across the internet .
More than likely , we 'd have to settle for an App Store approved version of Monopoly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...that it would support Vassal [vassalengine.org], Cyberboard [slashdot.org], or Aide de Camp [hpssims.com], the utilites boardgamers use to play boardgames across the internet.
More than likely, we'd have to settle for an App Store approved version of Monopoly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956994</id>
	<title>Not the Point for Some</title>
	<author>Minigun\_Fiend</author>
	<datestamp>1264768320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I may be in the minority here, but one of the reasons I play board games is specifically because they *aren't* electronic. For once everyone has to use their brains - there's no computer to tell them the rules or make sure they play correctly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I may be in the minority here , but one of the reasons I play board games is specifically because they * are n't * electronic .
For once everyone has to use their brains - there 's no computer to tell them the rules or make sure they play correctly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I may be in the minority here, but one of the reasons I play board games is specifically because they *aren't* electronic.
For once everyone has to use their brains - there's no computer to tell them the rules or make sure they play correctly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955800</id>
	<title>Can't play a boardgame that's can't lay flat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264762800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPad cannot lay flat on a table. It fails the single most important criteria for board games. If the game doesn't have a board that lays flat, it isn't a board game. If you cannot hold pieces in your hand, it isn't a board game.</p><p>It *might* work for games that have you pass the device from player to player ala catchphrase.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad can not lay flat on a table .
It fails the single most important criteria for board games .
If the game does n't have a board that lays flat , it is n't a board game .
If you can not hold pieces in your hand , it is n't a board game.It * might * work for games that have you pass the device from player to player ala catchphrase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad cannot lay flat on a table.
It fails the single most important criteria for board games.
If the game doesn't have a board that lays flat, it isn't a board game.
If you cannot hold pieces in your hand, it isn't a board game.It *might* work for games that have you pass the device from player to player ala catchphrase.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956980</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>Darth</author>
	<datestamp>1264768260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>not to say i agree with the premise of the article, but it would be saying for $499 + $299/phone you can play potentially hundreds of $75 board games electronically.<br>And that still isn't accurate because the phone (and the iPad) is not used exclusively for playing board games, so some of the cost is defrayed by the additional usage of the devices involved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>not to say i agree with the premise of the article , but it would be saying for $ 499 + $ 299/phone you can play potentially hundreds of $ 75 board games electronically.And that still is n't accurate because the phone ( and the iPad ) is not used exclusively for playing board games , so some of the cost is defrayed by the additional usage of the devices involved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>not to say i agree with the premise of the article, but it would be saying for $499 + $299/phone you can play potentially hundreds of $75 board games electronically.And that still isn't accurate because the phone (and the iPad) is not used exclusively for playing board games, so some of the cost is defrayed by the additional usage of the devices involved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955096</id>
	<title>Re:Too Small</title>
	<author>node 3</author>
	<datestamp>1264759800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't think I play a single board game with a board that small. Zoom in and out? Scroll around? Everything smaller?</p></div><p>Um, I'm pretty sure that's *exactly* how you play *every* board game. Take Monopoly as an example (for a point of reference, not because it's the best game out there or anything). When you look at the board, as a whole, your vision isn't zoomed in on any particular part. You are taking in how many groups of streets have houses and where you are, where you might land, if someone is in jail, are you about to pass go, etc.</p><p>Then, when you want to take note of something specifically, like, what do you have to roll to land on Ventnor, or how much you will make if an opponent lands on St. James, etc., you zoom in on that thing (either leaning in and focusing on that particular area of the board or picking up and looking at that property card). You go from zoomed in to zoomed out all the time, panning around, the works.</p><p>I'm not saying the iPad (or any touchscreen device) will be better <i>at that aspect</i> of game playing (in a way it is, in that you can have a <i>really</i> large board game that would be impractical in reality), just that you already do those things when playing a game.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>No thanks. A lot of my board game time is great just because I'm unplugged anyway.</p></div><p>Of course, play the games the way you want. No one is saying you have to trade in your board games for computer games, just like Monopoly or Risk on your PC or Xbox 360 means you have to give up physical board games. It's just another way to play, and for me at least, sounds pretty cool.</p><p>Another benefit, aside from games that are impossible/impractical to make in physical form, is being able to buy, download, and play the game right away, instead of having to run to the store (which might not be as easy as it sounds for a lot of the more obscure, but highly acclaimed, board games).</p></div>
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<tokenext>I do n't think I play a single board game with a board that small .
Zoom in and out ?
Scroll around ?
Everything smaller ? Um , I 'm pretty sure that 's * exactly * how you play * every * board game .
Take Monopoly as an example ( for a point of reference , not because it 's the best game out there or anything ) .
When you look at the board , as a whole , your vision is n't zoomed in on any particular part .
You are taking in how many groups of streets have houses and where you are , where you might land , if someone is in jail , are you about to pass go , etc.Then , when you want to take note of something specifically , like , what do you have to roll to land on Ventnor , or how much you will make if an opponent lands on St. James , etc. , you zoom in on that thing ( either leaning in and focusing on that particular area of the board or picking up and looking at that property card ) .
You go from zoomed in to zoomed out all the time , panning around , the works.I 'm not saying the iPad ( or any touchscreen device ) will be better at that aspect of game playing ( in a way it is , in that you can have a really large board game that would be impractical in reality ) , just that you already do those things when playing a game.No thanks .
A lot of my board game time is great just because I 'm unplugged anyway.Of course , play the games the way you want .
No one is saying you have to trade in your board games for computer games , just like Monopoly or Risk on your PC or Xbox 360 means you have to give up physical board games .
It 's just another way to play , and for me at least , sounds pretty cool.Another benefit , aside from games that are impossible/impractical to make in physical form , is being able to buy , download , and play the game right away , instead of having to run to the store ( which might not be as easy as it sounds for a lot of the more obscure , but highly acclaimed , board games ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think I play a single board game with a board that small.
Zoom in and out?
Scroll around?
Everything smaller?Um, I'm pretty sure that's *exactly* how you play *every* board game.
Take Monopoly as an example (for a point of reference, not because it's the best game out there or anything).
When you look at the board, as a whole, your vision isn't zoomed in on any particular part.
You are taking in how many groups of streets have houses and where you are, where you might land, if someone is in jail, are you about to pass go, etc.Then, when you want to take note of something specifically, like, what do you have to roll to land on Ventnor, or how much you will make if an opponent lands on St. James, etc., you zoom in on that thing (either leaning in and focusing on that particular area of the board or picking up and looking at that property card).
You go from zoomed in to zoomed out all the time, panning around, the works.I'm not saying the iPad (or any touchscreen device) will be better at that aspect of game playing (in a way it is, in that you can have a really large board game that would be impractical in reality), just that you already do those things when playing a game.No thanks.
A lot of my board game time is great just because I'm unplugged anyway.Of course, play the games the way you want.
No one is saying you have to trade in your board games for computer games, just like Monopoly or Risk on your PC or Xbox 360 means you have to give up physical board games.
It's just another way to play, and for me at least, sounds pretty cool.Another benefit, aside from games that are impossible/impractical to make in physical form, is being able to buy, download, and play the game right away, instead of having to run to the store (which might not be as easy as it sounds for a lot of the more obscure, but highly acclaimed, board games).
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955986</id>
	<title>Re:iFail</title>
	<author>anaesthetica</author>
	<datestamp>1264763640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>...SOMETHING it'd good for.</p></div></blockquote><p>Looks like you accidentally the whole iPad.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...SOMETHING it 'd good for.Looks like you accidentally the whole iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...SOMETHING it'd good for.Looks like you accidentally the whole iPad.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955012</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264759500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good ones. You know, ones that were developed in the last decade or two...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good ones .
You know , ones that were developed in the last decade or two.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good ones.
You know, ones that were developed in the last decade or two...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954286</id>
	<title>solution in search of a problem</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1264756800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>isn't that solution in search of a problem?  Isn't the 'perfect' board game platform based on an actual physical board with physical elements present: cards, dice, tokens, whatever?</p><p>I used to play a board game similar to Risk, that had tokens, little standing cards, the value of which were only visible to me.  So you have an army and the opponent has an army, you see various soldiers, but you don't know what they are.  Some tokens are soldiers, some are mines, there is one that is the flag.  The idea is to capture the flag by 'attacking' it.  When one player attacks the other, he challenges the opponent's token soldier with his own.  Now the soldiers are compared, if one has a higher rank, he wins, the opponent's token is removed.  If both are the same rank, both are removed.</p><p>How do you do something like that on a screen?  Do you put the actual tokens on the screen?  Why not just a piece of cheap ass cardboard with a picture on it?</p><p>This is amusing, maybe there are instances where this horizontal touch screen is better for some games, but really?  How much does it cost compared with a few cardboard pieces?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is n't that solution in search of a problem ?
Is n't the 'perfect ' board game platform based on an actual physical board with physical elements present : cards , dice , tokens , whatever ? I used to play a board game similar to Risk , that had tokens , little standing cards , the value of which were only visible to me .
So you have an army and the opponent has an army , you see various soldiers , but you do n't know what they are .
Some tokens are soldiers , some are mines , there is one that is the flag .
The idea is to capture the flag by 'attacking ' it .
When one player attacks the other , he challenges the opponent 's token soldier with his own .
Now the soldiers are compared , if one has a higher rank , he wins , the opponent 's token is removed .
If both are the same rank , both are removed.How do you do something like that on a screen ?
Do you put the actual tokens on the screen ?
Why not just a piece of cheap ass cardboard with a picture on it ? This is amusing , maybe there are instances where this horizontal touch screen is better for some games , but really ?
How much does it cost compared with a few cardboard pieces ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>isn't that solution in search of a problem?
Isn't the 'perfect' board game platform based on an actual physical board with physical elements present: cards, dice, tokens, whatever?I used to play a board game similar to Risk, that had tokens, little standing cards, the value of which were only visible to me.
So you have an army and the opponent has an army, you see various soldiers, but you don't know what they are.
Some tokens are soldiers, some are mines, there is one that is the flag.
The idea is to capture the flag by 'attacking' it.
When one player attacks the other, he challenges the opponent's token soldier with his own.
Now the soldiers are compared, if one has a higher rank, he wins, the opponent's token is removed.
If both are the same rank, both are removed.How do you do something like that on a screen?
Do you put the actual tokens on the screen?
Why not just a piece of cheap ass cardboard with a picture on it?This is amusing, maybe there are instances where this horizontal touch screen is better for some games, but really?
How much does it cost compared with a few cardboard pieces?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954314</id>
	<title>Ugh, the hassle</title>
	<author>mcsqueak</author>
	<datestamp>1264756920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.' Now that would be cool."</p></div><p>No, that doesn't sound cool... that sounds expensive, and hard to manage. Not to be a luddite, but I'll stick with traditional cardboard and wood Scrabble, thanks.
</p><p>HOWEVER, other board games may do better on the platform. Simple arcade games might be neat, too... such as Pacman, for example.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board , you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone .
' Now that would be cool .
" No , that does n't sound cool... that sounds expensive , and hard to manage .
Not to be a luddite , but I 'll stick with traditional cardboard and wood Scrabble , thanks .
HOWEVER , other board games may do better on the platform .
Simple arcade games might be neat , too... such as Pacman , for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.
' Now that would be cool.
"No, that doesn't sound cool... that sounds expensive, and hard to manage.
Not to be a luddite, but I'll stick with traditional cardboard and wood Scrabble, thanks.
HOWEVER, other board games may do better on the platform.
Simple arcade games might be neat, too... such as Pacman, for example.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956580</id>
	<title>obreply</title>
	<author>cain</author>
	<datestamp>1264766040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No dice. Less space than Monopoly. Lame.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No dice .
Less space than Monopoly .
Lame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No dice.
Less space than Monopoly.
Lame.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954320</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>simcop2387</author>
	<datestamp>1264756920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>$75? the deluxe edition is only $39.99 at target, the regular version (which i can't seem to find) should be even cheaper. <a href="http://www.target.com/Super-Scrabble-The-Deluxe-Edition/dp/B000P0R9J0/sr=1-1/qid=1264796353/ref=sr\_1\_1/177-1017270-8492669?ie=UTF8&amp;search-alias=tgt-index&amp;frombrowse=0&amp;index=target&amp;rh=k\%3Ascrabble&amp;page=1" title="target.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.target.com/Super-Scrabble-The-Deluxe-Edition/dp/B000P0R9J0/sr=1-1/qid=1264796353/ref=sr\_1\_1/177-1017270-8492669?ie=UTF8&amp;search-alias=tgt-index&amp;frombrowse=0&amp;index=target&amp;rh=k\%3Ascrabble&amp;page=1</a> [target.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 75 ?
the deluxe edition is only $ 39.99 at target , the regular version ( which i ca n't seem to find ) should be even cheaper .
http : //www.target.com/Super-Scrabble-The-Deluxe-Edition/dp/B000P0R9J0/sr = 1-1/qid = 1264796353/ref = sr \ _1 \ _1/177-1017270-8492669 ? ie = UTF8&amp;search-alias = tgt-index&amp;frombrowse = 0&amp;index = target&amp;rh = k \ % 3Ascrabble&amp;page = 1 [ target.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$75?
the deluxe edition is only $39.99 at target, the regular version (which i can't seem to find) should be even cheaper.
http://www.target.com/Super-Scrabble-The-Deluxe-Edition/dp/B000P0R9J0/sr=1-1/qid=1264796353/ref=sr\_1\_1/177-1017270-8492669?ie=UTF8&amp;search-alias=tgt-index&amp;frombrowse=0&amp;index=target&amp;rh=k\%3Ascrabble&amp;page=1 [target.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30958964</id>
	<title>The perfect platform?</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1264782060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or the most expensive. ~1500 bucks for 2 players..</p><p>And you have to be worried about batteries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or the most expensive .
~ 1500 bucks for 2 players..And you have to be worried about batteries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or the most expensive.
~1500 bucks for 2 players..And you have to be worried about batteries.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956624</id>
	<title>Re:This is an ironic article, right?</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1264766220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>they created a small light weights tablet. The created the chip, the form factor. No they didn't not create the idea of a tablet. They did invent this tablet device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>they created a small light weights tablet .
The created the chip , the form factor .
No they did n't not create the idea of a tablet .
They did invent this tablet device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they created a small light weights tablet.
The created the chip, the form factor.
No they didn't not create the idea of a tablet.
They did invent this tablet device.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954348</id>
	<title>Manufacturing and distribution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264756980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So for only $499 + $299/phone, you can play a $75 board game electronically!</p></div><p>That depends on how many board games you buy. If you buy specialty board games as apps on iTunes Store, it might be cheaper than buying them as cardboard on, say, MyAtomic.com. Notice how albums cost $9.99 on iTunes Store vs. $13.99 on CD at Walmart* because there's no cost of pressing, packaging, shipping, and retailing discs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So for only $ 499 + $ 299/phone , you can play a $ 75 board game electronically ! That depends on how many board games you buy .
If you buy specialty board games as apps on iTunes Store , it might be cheaper than buying them as cardboard on , say , MyAtomic.com .
Notice how albums cost $ 9.99 on iTunes Store vs. $ 13.99 on CD at Walmart * because there 's no cost of pressing , packaging , shipping , and retailing discs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So for only $499 + $299/phone, you can play a $75 board game electronically!That depends on how many board games you buy.
If you buy specialty board games as apps on iTunes Store, it might be cheaper than buying them as cardboard on, say, MyAtomic.com.
Notice how albums cost $9.99 on iTunes Store vs. $13.99 on CD at Walmart* because there's no cost of pressing, packaging, shipping, and retailing discs.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30957920</id>
	<title>The Game Crafter</title>
	<author>PlainBlack</author>
	<datestamp>1264773360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No Apple hasn't, <a href="http://www.thegamecrafter.com/" title="thegamecrafter.com" rel="nofollow">The Game Crafter</a> [thegamecrafter.com] has created the perfect board game platform.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No Apple has n't , The Game Crafter [ thegamecrafter.com ] has created the perfect board game platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No Apple hasn't, The Game Crafter [thegamecrafter.com] has created the perfect board game platform.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30957276</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>mvdwege</author>
	<datestamp>1264769760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your comment seems perfect to piggy-back on, so here goes.</p><p>Funny that you mention VASL. It wasn't until I got my work laptop, with a 15" 1920x1200 widescreen, that I seriously considered going VASL. Given that a normal ASL board is 8x22", and that most scenarios are two or three boards, you can see that fitting a scenario on screen with the same amount of information preserved from the physical layout is impossible. Either you zoom out to see the entire board, losing counter detail (<em>important</em> in ASL), or you zoom in to 1:1 scale counters, losing your map overview at the same time.</p><p>Now try that on a 9.7" screen. It's patently absurd to think that that is suitable for any but the most trivial board games.</p><p>But the Apple fanbois are eating it up. Just like they are buying the new Macbooks with chicklet keyboards. I don't get it.</p><p>
Mart</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your comment seems perfect to piggy-back on , so here goes.Funny that you mention VASL .
It was n't until I got my work laptop , with a 15 " 1920x1200 widescreen , that I seriously considered going VASL .
Given that a normal ASL board is 8x22 " , and that most scenarios are two or three boards , you can see that fitting a scenario on screen with the same amount of information preserved from the physical layout is impossible .
Either you zoom out to see the entire board , losing counter detail ( important in ASL ) , or you zoom in to 1 : 1 scale counters , losing your map overview at the same time.Now try that on a 9.7 " screen .
It 's patently absurd to think that that is suitable for any but the most trivial board games.But the Apple fanbois are eating it up .
Just like they are buying the new Macbooks with chicklet keyboards .
I do n't get it .
Mart</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your comment seems perfect to piggy-back on, so here goes.Funny that you mention VASL.
It wasn't until I got my work laptop, with a 15" 1920x1200 widescreen, that I seriously considered going VASL.
Given that a normal ASL board is 8x22", and that most scenarios are two or three boards, you can see that fitting a scenario on screen with the same amount of information preserved from the physical layout is impossible.
Either you zoom out to see the entire board, losing counter detail (important in ASL), or you zoom in to 1:1 scale counters, losing your map overview at the same time.Now try that on a 9.7" screen.
It's patently absurd to think that that is suitable for any but the most trivial board games.But the Apple fanbois are eating it up.
Just like they are buying the new Macbooks with chicklet keyboards.
I don't get it.
Mart</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954938</id>
	<title>Re:No magic</title>
	<author>jarbrewer</author>
	<datestamp>1264759260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Part of the magic of meatspace board games is losing the bits and pieces.</p><p>You can't do that on an iPad.</p></div><p>
Well... you could; you just have to take a hammer to the iPad first.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Part of the magic of meatspace board games is losing the bits and pieces.You ca n't do that on an iPad .
Well... you could ; you just have to take a hammer to the iPad first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Part of the magic of meatspace board games is losing the bits and pieces.You can't do that on an iPad.
Well... you could; you just have to take a hammer to the iPad first.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955294</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>sarahbau</author>
	<datestamp>1264760640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah. It really is too bad that when buying the iPad, you have to state what one function you're going to use it for, which can't be changed through the life of the product. I checked the "Scrabble" option when buying mine, but at least I like Scrabble, and am fine with it only doing that.</p><p>Or maybe, just maybe, no one is suggesting that people buy an iPad <i>just</i> to play board games. Maybe they're just saying if you are going to get one, it would work well for playing board games.....nah. That's silly. You're right. Your $800 vs $75 example is a fair and logical comparison.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah .
It really is too bad that when buying the iPad , you have to state what one function you 're going to use it for , which ca n't be changed through the life of the product .
I checked the " Scrabble " option when buying mine , but at least I like Scrabble , and am fine with it only doing that.Or maybe , just maybe , no one is suggesting that people buy an iPad just to play board games .
Maybe they 're just saying if you are going to get one , it would work well for playing board games.....nah .
That 's silly .
You 're right .
Your $ 800 vs $ 75 example is a fair and logical comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah.
It really is too bad that when buying the iPad, you have to state what one function you're going to use it for, which can't be changed through the life of the product.
I checked the "Scrabble" option when buying mine, but at least I like Scrabble, and am fine with it only doing that.Or maybe, just maybe, no one is suggesting that people buy an iPad just to play board games.
Maybe they're just saying if you are going to get one, it would work well for playing board games.....nah.
That's silly.
You're right.
Your $800 vs $75 example is a fair and logical comparison.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955362</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1264761000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget you have to buy the aps as well.</p><p>They'll just be $20 in the ap store. But you'll need the one for the ipad and then the one for the iphone. Well one for each player's iphone actually...</p><p>Excuse me while I go and hack up a board game for the ipad, I have bills to pay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget you have to buy the aps as well.They 'll just be $ 20 in the ap store .
But you 'll need the one for the ipad and then the one for the iphone .
Well one for each player 's iphone actually...Excuse me while I go and hack up a board game for the ipad , I have bills to pay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget you have to buy the aps as well.They'll just be $20 in the ap store.
But you'll need the one for the ipad and then the one for the iphone.
Well one for each player's iphone actually...Excuse me while I go and hack up a board game for the ipad, I have bills to pay.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954856</id>
	<title>Too Small</title>
	<author>Low Ranked Craig</author>
	<datestamp>1264758960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>a 27" glass touch screen built into a coffee table would be a much better board game, and a whole lot less expensive than MS Surface.</htmltext>
<tokenext>a 27 " glass touch screen built into a coffee table would be a much better board game , and a whole lot less expensive than MS Surface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a 27" glass touch screen built into a coffee table would be a much better board game, and a whole lot less expensive than MS Surface.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956552</id>
	<title>OR</title>
	<author>sproketboy</author>
	<datestamp>1264765920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could just spend $20 on a regular Scrabble board game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could just spend $ 20 on a regular Scrabble board game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could just spend $20 on a regular Scrabble board game.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954524</id>
	<title>Larger than many chess travel sets ...</title>
	<author>perpenso</author>
	<datestamp>1264757820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The iPad is larger than many chess travel sets I've seen.  Plus it can incorporate timers, single player, tutorials,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...  I think its a little premature to rule it out for board game like use, especially when considering being on the move.  Not only compared to travel sets but consider that you can effectively be carrying around multiple board games all the time.<br> <br>

--<br>
<a href="http://www.perpenso.com/calc/" title="perpenso.com" rel="nofollow">Perpenso Calc</a> [perpenso.com] for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPN</htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad is larger than many chess travel sets I 've seen .
Plus it can incorporate timers , single player , tutorials , ... I think its a little premature to rule it out for board game like use , especially when considering being on the move .
Not only compared to travel sets but consider that you can effectively be carrying around multiple board games all the time .
-- Perpenso Calc [ perpenso.com ] for iPhone and iPod touch , scientific and bill/tip calculator , fractions , complex numbers , RPN</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad is larger than many chess travel sets I've seen.
Plus it can incorporate timers, single player, tutorials, ...  I think its a little premature to rule it out for board game like use, especially when considering being on the move.
Not only compared to travel sets but consider that you can effectively be carrying around multiple board games all the time.
--
Perpenso Calc [perpenso.com] for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPN</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956898</id>
	<title>Re:This is really starting to stretch it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264767720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wrong.  Flash provides nothing that isn't available elsewhere.  90\% of flash is either nav trash or a wrapper around MP4/H264.  Both nav and MP4 and H264 work fine on Apple's mobile platforms, without Flash.  Apple has no incentive to add Flash: the crash-prone runtime that is at fault in over half of all crashdumps submitted to Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wrong .
Flash provides nothing that is n't available elsewhere .
90 \ % of flash is either nav trash or a wrapper around MP4/H264 .
Both nav and MP4 and H264 work fine on Apple 's mobile platforms , without Flash .
Apple has no incentive to add Flash : the crash-prone runtime that is at fault in over half of all crashdumps submitted to Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wrong.
Flash provides nothing that isn't available elsewhere.
90\% of flash is either nav trash or a wrapper around MP4/H264.
Both nav and MP4 and H264 work fine on Apple's mobile platforms, without Flash.
Apple has no incentive to add Flash: the crash-prone runtime that is at fault in over half of all crashdumps submitted to Apple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956792</id>
	<title>Re:Have I missed something?</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1264767060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Basically you are correct. It's more powerful, and has the advantage of a larger screen. But it is kind of an appliances.</p><p>there sin't anything wrong with that. In fact you probably own several appliances.</p><p>However, I would love to know why, exactly, it doesn't have a video camera. I can only speculate that there just isn't a good video camera that can fit in the form factor. At this time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Basically you are correct .
It 's more powerful , and has the advantage of a larger screen .
But it is kind of an appliances.there si n't anything wrong with that .
In fact you probably own several appliances.However , I would love to know why , exactly , it does n't have a video camera .
I can only speculate that there just is n't a good video camera that can fit in the form factor .
At this time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Basically you are correct.
It's more powerful, and has the advantage of a larger screen.
But it is kind of an appliances.there sin't anything wrong with that.
In fact you probably own several appliances.However, I would love to know why, exactly, it doesn't have a video camera.
I can only speculate that there just isn't a good video camera that can fit in the form factor.
At this time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30978056</id>
	<title>Hello</title>
	<author>Ethan66</author>
	<datestamp>1264967520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am really not sure how to react to this. It sounds really exciting as one can carry around many board games in just one small screen. But who plays board games all day long.

The only fun part I see in this product would be the multi-touch feature to drag on screen. Other than that, I think this device is pointless. (I don't like board games anyways. I play a lot of chess and have a chess computer for that.)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am really not sure how to react to this .
It sounds really exciting as one can carry around many board games in just one small screen .
But who plays board games all day long .
The only fun part I see in this product would be the multi-touch feature to drag on screen .
Other than that , I think this device is pointless .
( I do n't like board games anyways .
I play a lot of chess and have a chess computer for that .
) : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am really not sure how to react to this.
It sounds really exciting as one can carry around many board games in just one small screen.
But who plays board games all day long.
The only fun part I see in this product would be the multi-touch feature to drag on screen.
Other than that, I think this device is pointless.
(I don't like board games anyways.
I play a lot of chess and have a chess computer for that.
) :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955256</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1264760460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Eh, I think you being overly optimistic that you will be able to buy the games electronically for less than you can buy they in cardboard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eh , I think you being overly optimistic that you will be able to buy the games electronically for less than you can buy they in cardboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eh, I think you being overly optimistic that you will be able to buy the games electronically for less than you can buy they in cardboard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954648</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>weston</author>
	<datestamp>1264758240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>$499 + $299/phone</i></p><p>$299 phone?</p><p>Well, assuming for some reason you've got an aversion against or unusual obstacle to using WiFi, you could use a phone that costs around $50. At least, that's what I do with my laptop and a Nokia 2865 (via bluetooth DUN). It's not 3G speeds, which means you don't want to be pushing video over it, but for sending model data between games it should work just fine.</p><p>As for the rest of the economics... yeah, if you're just going to buy one board game, it probably doesn't make a lot of sense, to buy an iPad just to play it.  The question is if you're going to do anything else... whether that's a handful of other games, or something else the device does (as well as whether game titles cost less or more than the equivalent board game). In other words, whether or not the iPad makes sense for games is probably going to a have a lot to do with whether the iPad makes sense in general for you.</p><p>Personally, for me the bigger objection would generally have to be that it's a bit small for group board gaming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 499 + $ 299/phone $ 299 phone ? Well , assuming for some reason you 've got an aversion against or unusual obstacle to using WiFi , you could use a phone that costs around $ 50 .
At least , that 's what I do with my laptop and a Nokia 2865 ( via bluetooth DUN ) .
It 's not 3G speeds , which means you do n't want to be pushing video over it , but for sending model data between games it should work just fine.As for the rest of the economics... yeah , if you 're just going to buy one board game , it probably does n't make a lot of sense , to buy an iPad just to play it .
The question is if you 're going to do anything else... whether that 's a handful of other games , or something else the device does ( as well as whether game titles cost less or more than the equivalent board game ) .
In other words , whether or not the iPad makes sense for games is probably going to a have a lot to do with whether the iPad makes sense in general for you.Personally , for me the bigger objection would generally have to be that it 's a bit small for group board gaming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$499 + $299/phone$299 phone?Well, assuming for some reason you've got an aversion against or unusual obstacle to using WiFi, you could use a phone that costs around $50.
At least, that's what I do with my laptop and a Nokia 2865 (via bluetooth DUN).
It's not 3G speeds, which means you don't want to be pushing video over it, but for sending model data between games it should work just fine.As for the rest of the economics... yeah, if you're just going to buy one board game, it probably doesn't make a lot of sense, to buy an iPad just to play it.
The question is if you're going to do anything else... whether that's a handful of other games, or something else the device does (as well as whether game titles cost less or more than the equivalent board game).
In other words, whether or not the iPad makes sense for games is probably going to a have a lot to do with whether the iPad makes sense in general for you.Personally, for me the bigger objection would generally have to be that it's a bit small for group board gaming.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955472</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>cexshun</author>
	<datestamp>1264761420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget:</p><p>

Carcasonne<br>
Agricola<br>
Last Night on Earth<br>
Pandemic<br>
Ticket to Ride<br>
Steam<br>
and many more</p><p>There are TONS of great board games out there that are fun to play and don't follow the "roll the dice and race to a finish line" concept.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget : Carcasonne Agricola Last Night on Earth Pandemic Ticket to Ride Steam and many moreThere are TONS of great board games out there that are fun to play and do n't follow the " roll the dice and race to a finish line " concept .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget:

Carcasonne
Agricola
Last Night on Earth
Pandemic
Ticket to Ride
Steam
and many moreThere are TONS of great board games out there that are fun to play and don't follow the "roll the dice and race to a finish line" concept.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955908</id>
	<title>Re:Here's a *CLASSIC* comment from the article....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264763400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Thirdly, the biggest iPAD is 64GB which means that to get a "thousand" games on it, each game would need to average no more than 65MB.</p></div><p>Oh, shit!  The world is ending!  How are we ever going to create a fun game that takes less than 65MB of storage space?  It's <strong>impossible</strong>, I tell you!  Any decent game <strong>must</strong> at least fill up a CD-ROM or it's no good at all!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thirdly , the biggest iPAD is 64GB which means that to get a " thousand " games on it , each game would need to average no more than 65MB.Oh , shit !
The world is ending !
How are we ever going to create a fun game that takes less than 65MB of storage space ?
It 's impossible , I tell you !
Any decent game must at least fill up a CD-ROM or it 's no good at all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thirdly, the biggest iPAD is 64GB which means that to get a "thousand" games on it, each game would need to average no more than 65MB.Oh, shit!
The world is ending!
How are we ever going to create a fun game that takes less than 65MB of storage space?
It's impossible, I tell you!
Any decent game must at least fill up a CD-ROM or it's no good at all!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954796</id>
	<title>This is exactly why it ISN'T a dumb product...</title>
	<author>MistrBlank</author>
	<datestamp>1264758780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is why it's a fun product.  Apple didn't show half, or a quarter or even 10\% of the potential on Wednesday of this device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why it 's a fun product .
Apple did n't show half , or a quarter or even 10 \ % of the potential on Wednesday of this device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why it's a fun product.
Apple didn't show half, or a quarter or even 10\% of the potential on Wednesday of this device.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954888</id>
	<title>Perfect D&amp;D tie-in with a multi-touch-table</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264759080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>iPad for each player to use an app to display their character sheet/messaging between player/DM.

Multi-touch table to display the world/battlefield...

Cool</htmltext>
<tokenext>iPad for each player to use an app to display their character sheet/messaging between player/DM .
Multi-touch table to display the world/battlefield.. . Cool</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPad for each player to use an app to display their character sheet/messaging between player/DM.
Multi-touch table to display the world/battlefield...

Cool</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954874</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>node 3</author>
	<datestamp>1264759020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So for only $499 + $299/phone, you can play a $75 board game electronically! No messy setup, and you don't have to worry about where to put that almost $1000 in cash you would still have!</p></div><p>+5 Insightful, but only if you <i>only</i> buy the iPad (and iPhone) to play one single game and that's it.</p><p>How often do you think that's really going to happen?</p><p>On the other hand, for everyone who will actually buy such a thing, they will be able to surf the web, listen to music, watch movies, read books, use numerous apps and games, etc., <i>and</i> (if they want), *also* play a $75 board game.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So for only $ 499 + $ 299/phone , you can play a $ 75 board game electronically !
No messy setup , and you do n't have to worry about where to put that almost $ 1000 in cash you would still have ! + 5 Insightful , but only if you only buy the iPad ( and iPhone ) to play one single game and that 's it.How often do you think that 's really going to happen ? On the other hand , for everyone who will actually buy such a thing , they will be able to surf the web , listen to music , watch movies , read books , use numerous apps and games , etc. , and ( if they want ) , * also * play a $ 75 board game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So for only $499 + $299/phone, you can play a $75 board game electronically!
No messy setup, and you don't have to worry about where to put that almost $1000 in cash you would still have!+5 Insightful, but only if you only buy the iPad (and iPhone) to play one single game and that's it.How often do you think that's really going to happen?On the other hand, for everyone who will actually buy such a thing, they will be able to surf the web, listen to music, watch movies, read books, use numerous apps and games, etc., and (if they want), *also* play a $75 board game.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954804</id>
	<title>Private screen? Like GCN+GBA?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264758780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Was playing some stuff last week that had a main screen for the group and used private screens for some selections.</p><p>(4)Gameboy Advance + (4)GBA-GCN link cables + Gamecube.  (Which game?  Well I've got Final Fantasy Chronicles, and Legend of Zelda: 4 Swords.  Both have the common screen and have some user specific stuff on the GBA)</p><p>I'm sure I've heard of this somewhere, just not sure if I can think of any games: Wii + 4 DSes. Wouldn't even need the link cables since they all do 802.11b.</p><p>So, not exactly a new idea. And if you use a DS, you would have a (small) touch screen.<br>(I looked at one of my saves for the 4 Swords game last night(testing out some new link cables), last played: 2004).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was playing some stuff last week that had a main screen for the group and used private screens for some selections .
( 4 ) Gameboy Advance + ( 4 ) GBA-GCN link cables + Gamecube .
( Which game ?
Well I 've got Final Fantasy Chronicles , and Legend of Zelda : 4 Swords .
Both have the common screen and have some user specific stuff on the GBA ) I 'm sure I 've heard of this somewhere , just not sure if I can think of any games : Wii + 4 DSes .
Would n't even need the link cables since they all do 802.11b.So , not exactly a new idea .
And if you use a DS , you would have a ( small ) touch screen .
( I looked at one of my saves for the 4 Swords game last night ( testing out some new link cables ) , last played : 2004 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was playing some stuff last week that had a main screen for the group and used private screens for some selections.
(4)Gameboy Advance + (4)GBA-GCN link cables + Gamecube.
(Which game?
Well I've got Final Fantasy Chronicles, and Legend of Zelda: 4 Swords.
Both have the common screen and have some user specific stuff on the GBA)I'm sure I've heard of this somewhere, just not sure if I can think of any games: Wii + 4 DSes.
Wouldn't even need the link cables since they all do 802.11b.So, not exactly a new idea.
And if you use a DS, you would have a (small) touch screen.
(I looked at one of my saves for the 4 Swords game last night(testing out some new link cables), last played: 2004).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30961232</id>
	<title>Why not with older similar devices ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264856160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Could be done with any big tablet/convertible device + bluetooth + any cellphone, but it's not newsworthy if the hardware is many years old...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could be done with any big tablet/convertible device + bluetooth + any cellphone , but it 's not newsworthy if the hardware is many years old.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could be done with any big tablet/convertible device + bluetooth + any cellphone, but it's not newsworthy if the hardware is many years old...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954172</id>
	<title>Too Small</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264756440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is less than 10 inches perfect?</p><p>I don't think I play a single board game with a board that small.  Zoom in and out?  Scroll around?  Everything smaller? No thanks.  A lot of my board game time is great just because I'm unplugged anyway.</p><p>If I were alone, maybe then I could see it.  The less than ideal experience would be o.k. compared to not being able to play at all.  But to sit around with phones out to 'hold' tiles and play the game on a little screen doesn't make a lot of sense to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is less than 10 inches perfect ? I do n't think I play a single board game with a board that small .
Zoom in and out ?
Scroll around ?
Everything smaller ?
No thanks .
A lot of my board game time is great just because I 'm unplugged anyway.If I were alone , maybe then I could see it .
The less than ideal experience would be o.k .
compared to not being able to play at all .
But to sit around with phones out to 'hold ' tiles and play the game on a little screen does n't make a lot of sense to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is less than 10 inches perfect?I don't think I play a single board game with a board that small.
Zoom in and out?
Scroll around?
Everything smaller?
No thanks.
A lot of my board game time is great just because I'm unplugged anyway.If I were alone, maybe then I could see it.
The less than ideal experience would be o.k.
compared to not being able to play at all.
But to sit around with phones out to 'hold' tiles and play the game on a little screen doesn't make a lot of sense to me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954952</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>EvanED</author>
	<datestamp>1264759320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mass produced games are around that price, but wander around a specialty game store. Many (not all) of the games there will be quite expensive. E.g. Settlers of Catan lists for $50, though you can get it for the low-to-mid $30s.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mass produced games are around that price , but wander around a specialty game store .
Many ( not all ) of the games there will be quite expensive .
E.g. Settlers of Catan lists for $ 50 , though you can get it for the low-to-mid $ 30s .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mass produced games are around that price, but wander around a specialty game store.
Many (not all) of the games there will be quite expensive.
E.g. Settlers of Catan lists for $50, though you can get it for the low-to-mid $30s.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954506</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>jsimon12</author>
	<datestamp>1264757700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What board games are you buying and where are you shopping? Last time I checked Scrabble and Monopoly were still in the sub-20 dollar range. Even Axis and Allies is 40-50 bucks. Even if they were 100 bucks you could buy 10-20 of them for the cost of an iPad and 3 iPhones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What board games are you buying and where are you shopping ?
Last time I checked Scrabble and Monopoly were still in the sub-20 dollar range .
Even Axis and Allies is 40-50 bucks .
Even if they were 100 bucks you could buy 10-20 of them for the cost of an iPad and 3 iPhones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What board games are you buying and where are you shopping?
Last time I checked Scrabble and Monopoly were still in the sub-20 dollar range.
Even Axis and Allies is 40-50 bucks.
Even if they were 100 bucks you could buy 10-20 of them for the cost of an iPad and 3 iPhones.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30974044</id>
	<title>Fantasy Flight Ahoooooyyyyyy</title>
	<author>Psyzygy</author>
	<datestamp>1264934100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sweet now I can play my Twilight Imperium and Fully Expanded Arkham Horror without getting out my 500 plastic pieces and 40 decks of cards and 10 trackers for various things and 20 bags of different kinds of chips!

I'm all for this guise</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sweet now I can play my Twilight Imperium and Fully Expanded Arkham Horror without getting out my 500 plastic pieces and 40 decks of cards and 10 trackers for various things and 20 bags of different kinds of chips !
I 'm all for this guise</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sweet now I can play my Twilight Imperium and Fully Expanded Arkham Horror without getting out my 500 plastic pieces and 40 decks of cards and 10 trackers for various things and 20 bags of different kinds of chips!
I'm all for this guise</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954282</id>
	<title>Re:Too Small</title>
	<author>LordPhantom</author>
	<datestamp>1264756800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"How is less than 10 inches perfect?"<br>
That's what <i>she</i> said!</htmltext>
<tokenext>" How is less than 10 inches perfect ?
" That 's what she said !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"How is less than 10 inches perfect?
"
That's what she said!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956204</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>HockeyPuck</author>
	<datestamp>1264764600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/59294/runewars" title="boardgamegeek.com">Runewars</a> [boardgamegeek.com] for the Casual gamer?  Give me a fucking break.  I've never heard of it, and when I looked at the # of pieces that comes with the game, I thought it made Axis and Allies look like Candyland.</p><p>Runewars includes:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * 40-page instruction guide<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Nearly two hundred highly-detailed plastic miniatures<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Over two hundred tokens<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Over two hundred cards, both small and standard sized<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * 13 map tiles</p><p><b>The contents of the box:</b></p><p>192 plastic figures<br>10 plastic mountains<br>12 plastic dial connectors<br>16 activation tokens<br>1 battle marker<br>7 city tokens<br>26 damage tokens<br>8 defeated hero markers<br>20 development tokens<br>35 exploration tokens<br>4 home realm setup markers<br>40 influence tokens<br>13 large map tiles<br>12 resource arrows<br>38 rune tokens<br>16 stronghold tokens<br>24 training tokens<br>4 faction sheets<br>4 reference sheets<br>32 order cards<br>23 quest cards<br>30 fate cards<br>12 hero cards<br>16 objective cards<br>25 reward cards<br>32 season cards<br>50 tactics cards<br>3 title cards<br>1 40-page rulebook</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Runewars [ boardgamegeek.com ] for the Casual gamer ?
Give me a fucking break .
I 've never heard of it , and when I looked at the # of pieces that comes with the game , I thought it made Axis and Allies look like Candyland.Runewars includes :         * 40-page instruction guide         * Nearly two hundred highly-detailed plastic miniatures         * Over two hundred tokens         * Over two hundred cards , both small and standard sized         * 13 map tilesThe contents of the box : 192 plastic figures10 plastic mountains12 plastic dial connectors16 activation tokens1 battle marker7 city tokens26 damage tokens8 defeated hero markers20 development tokens35 exploration tokens4 home realm setup markers40 influence tokens13 large map tiles12 resource arrows38 rune tokens16 stronghold tokens24 training tokens4 faction sheets4 reference sheets32 order cards23 quest cards30 fate cards12 hero cards16 objective cards25 reward cards32 season cards50 tactics cards3 title cards1 40-page rulebook</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Runewars [boardgamegeek.com] for the Casual gamer?
Give me a fucking break.
I've never heard of it, and when I looked at the # of pieces that comes with the game, I thought it made Axis and Allies look like Candyland.Runewars includes:
        * 40-page instruction guide
        * Nearly two hundred highly-detailed plastic miniatures
        * Over two hundred tokens
        * Over two hundred cards, both small and standard sized
        * 13 map tilesThe contents of the box:192 plastic figures10 plastic mountains12 plastic dial connectors16 activation tokens1 battle marker7 city tokens26 damage tokens8 defeated hero markers20 development tokens35 exploration tokens4 home realm setup markers40 influence tokens13 large map tiles12 resource arrows38 rune tokens16 stronghold tokens24 training tokens4 faction sheets4 reference sheets32 order cards23 quest cards30 fate cards12 hero cards16 objective cards25 reward cards32 season cards50 tactics cards3 title cards1 40-page rulebook</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954662</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>Mr. Sketch</author>
	<datestamp>1264758300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Those expensive board games are not exactly Candy Land or Monopoly.  My most expensive game is StarCraft: The Board Game which retails for $80 and after you add in the Brood War expansion, I'm out over $100 for that game, but it is worth every bit of it.  I admit that I was hesitant at first to spend that much on game when my most expensive board game prior to that was maybe $10-$20.  You get a whole lot in the game in terms of tokens, miniatures, cards, etc all very high quality, not to mention many, many hours of fun playing.  It's always a blast to get 5 of your friends around the game for an epic 3-4 hour war where everyone has a great time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Those expensive board games are not exactly Candy Land or Monopoly .
My most expensive game is StarCraft : The Board Game which retails for $ 80 and after you add in the Brood War expansion , I 'm out over $ 100 for that game , but it is worth every bit of it .
I admit that I was hesitant at first to spend that much on game when my most expensive board game prior to that was maybe $ 10- $ 20 .
You get a whole lot in the game in terms of tokens , miniatures , cards , etc all very high quality , not to mention many , many hours of fun playing .
It 's always a blast to get 5 of your friends around the game for an epic 3-4 hour war where everyone has a great time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those expensive board games are not exactly Candy Land or Monopoly.
My most expensive game is StarCraft: The Board Game which retails for $80 and after you add in the Brood War expansion, I'm out over $100 for that game, but it is worth every bit of it.
I admit that I was hesitant at first to spend that much on game when my most expensive board game prior to that was maybe $10-$20.
You get a whole lot in the game in terms of tokens, miniatures, cards, etc all very high quality, not to mention many, many hours of fun playing.
It's always a blast to get 5 of your friends around the game for an epic 3-4 hour war where everyone has a great time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954292</id>
	<title>This is really starting to stretch it.</title>
	<author>barfy</author>
	<datestamp>1264756800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look, it was a swing, and a miss.   If it is about content consumption, it must, 100\% must, have flash.</p><p>If it is about content creation, it needs WAY better input and manipulation tools.</p><p>I guess this is for my friends who always by BIG laptops, I have always bought small laptops.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look , it was a swing , and a miss .
If it is about content consumption , it must , 100 \ % must , have flash.If it is about content creation , it needs WAY better input and manipulation tools.I guess this is for my friends who always by BIG laptops , I have always bought small laptops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look, it was a swing, and a miss.
If it is about content consumption, it must, 100\% must, have flash.If it is about content creation, it needs WAY better input and manipulation tools.I guess this is for my friends who always by BIG laptops, I have always bought small laptops.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30957504</id>
	<title>what if she..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264770960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>doesn't download?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>does n't download ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>doesn't download?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954330</id>
	<title>How is it perfect?</title>
	<author>DrXym</author>
	<datestamp>1264756920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Board games come with cards, dice, plastic &amp; metal things and usually need more space than a small rectangle. Perhaps it does allow decent simulations of board games, but at $499 (+ whatever the app store slaps on top for a game) it bloody well ought to.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Board games come with cards , dice , plastic &amp; metal things and usually need more space than a small rectangle .
Perhaps it does allow decent simulations of board games , but at $ 499 ( + whatever the app store slaps on top for a game ) it bloody well ought to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Board games come with cards, dice, plastic &amp; metal things and usually need more space than a small rectangle.
Perhaps it does allow decent simulations of board games, but at $499 (+ whatever the app store slaps on top for a game) it bloody well ought to.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956100</id>
	<title>iD&amp;D</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Board games? - what's the point - use a board or a computer.</p><p>Now- making D&amp;D games happen between me and my friends after we got all growed up and got jobs in different cities - now that could be useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Board games ?
- what 's the point - use a board or a computer.Now- making D&amp;D games happen between me and my friends after we got all growed up and got jobs in different cities - now that could be useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Board games?
- what's the point - use a board or a computer.Now- making D&amp;D games happen between me and my friends after we got all growed up and got jobs in different cities - now that could be useful.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30968472</id>
	<title>Re:iFail</title>
	<author>Achoi77</author>
	<datestamp>1264879080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They're just desperate to find SOMETHING it'd good for.</p></div><p>Up untill you read a future article about the millionaire developer that made his riches making the first Whoopee Cushion iPad app.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're just desperate to find SOMETHING it 'd good for.Up untill you read a future article about the millionaire developer that made his riches making the first Whoopee Cushion iPad app .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're just desperate to find SOMETHING it'd good for.Up untill you read a future article about the millionaire developer that made his riches making the first Whoopee Cushion iPad app.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954480</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954236</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1264756680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Problem is most "cardboard" games are getting nutty pricey. I have seen many new ones retailing for $100 or more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Problem is most " cardboard " games are getting nutty pricey .
I have seen many new ones retailing for $ 100 or more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Problem is most "cardboard" games are getting nutty pricey.
I have seen many new ones retailing for $100 or more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954154</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954354</id>
	<title>We had created a solution</title>
	<author>CSHARP123</author>
	<datestamp>1264757040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>but we didn't know the problem. Thanks for providing the problem</htmltext>
<tokenext>but we did n't know the problem .
Thanks for providing the problem</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but we didn't know the problem.
Thanks for providing the problem</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954444</id>
	<title>Back to the Future Part 2...</title>
	<author>ThisIsAnonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264757460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Imagine a Scrabble iPad game that used iPhones as letter holders. You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.' Now that would be cool.</p></div><p>Wasn't this in Back to the Future Part 2...along with all the other ridiculous, and pointless, "this is what we will have in the future" crap in that film.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine a Scrabble iPad game that used iPhones as letter holders .
You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board , you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone .
' Now that would be cool.Was n't this in Back to the Future Part 2...along with all the other ridiculous , and pointless , " this is what we will have in the future " crap in that film .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine a Scrabble iPad game that used iPhones as letter holders.
You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.
' Now that would be cool.Wasn't this in Back to the Future Part 2...along with all the other ridiculous, and pointless, "this is what we will have in the future" crap in that film.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954154</id>
	<title>Uh, no.  They didn't.</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1264756380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The perfect board game platform is cardboard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The perfect board game platform is cardboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The perfect board game platform is cardboard.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955632</id>
	<title>Re:solution in search of a problem</title>
	<author>toastar</author>
	<datestamp>1264761960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>God I love Stratego,</htmltext>
<tokenext>God I love Stratego,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God I love Stratego,</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956280</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1264764900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would argue that they are cheap.</p><p>Computer games sell for 60 bucks and can only be used by one person in a household at a time.</p><p>Good board games, the Ticket to Ride, or settlers cost 60 bucks, but many people can play in your house at one time.<br>The reasale of popular game sis also higher.</p><p>Pay 10 bucks for a movie for 2 hours of entertainment per person. Thats 6 movies, or 12 hours. A board game can get 100's of hours.</p><p>Also, cheap ass games as some excellent games.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would argue that they are cheap.Computer games sell for 60 bucks and can only be used by one person in a household at a time.Good board games , the Ticket to Ride , or settlers cost 60 bucks , but many people can play in your house at one time.The reasale of popular game sis also higher.Pay 10 bucks for a movie for 2 hours of entertainment per person .
Thats 6 movies , or 12 hours .
A board game can get 100 's of hours.Also , cheap ass games as some excellent games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would argue that they are cheap.Computer games sell for 60 bucks and can only be used by one person in a household at a time.Good board games, the Ticket to Ride, or settlers cost 60 bucks, but many people can play in your house at one time.The reasale of popular game sis also higher.Pay 10 bucks for a movie for 2 hours of entertainment per person.
Thats 6 movies, or 12 hours.
A board game can get 100's of hours.Also, cheap ass games as some excellent games.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954946</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954958</id>
	<title>Re:Too Small</title>
	<author>jbeaupre</author>
	<datestamp>1264759320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perfect is relative.  If customers need to buy 4, 9, or 16 iPads to make a large enough screen, then that's perfect for Apple.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perfect is relative .
If customers need to buy 4 , 9 , or 16 iPads to make a large enough screen , then that 's perfect for Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perfect is relative.
If customers need to buy 4, 9, or 16 iPads to make a large enough screen, then that's perfect for Apple.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.31093018</id>
	<title>The first board games app</title>
	<author>JoeNoseblowr</author>
	<datestamp>1265029740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>board games for the ipad: www.gametableapp.com</htmltext>
<tokenext>board games for the ipad : www.gametableapp.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>board games for the ipad: www.gametableapp.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954534</id>
	<title>Re:Manufacturing and distribution</title>
	<author>travisco\_nabisco</author>
	<datestamp>1264757880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It also depends how many different friend groups you play the games with. If you have 3 or 4 different game groups are you going to buy enough iPhones that each person can have one? Or do you buy enough for your 6 player game and leave them on the shelf until you play the game?

Myself, I will continue to buy the $50+ board games and play them with whom I like when I like without having to be interrupted by text messages or phone calls when making a critical move.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It also depends how many different friend groups you play the games with .
If you have 3 or 4 different game groups are you going to buy enough iPhones that each person can have one ?
Or do you buy enough for your 6 player game and leave them on the shelf until you play the game ?
Myself , I will continue to buy the $ 50 + board games and play them with whom I like when I like without having to be interrupted by text messages or phone calls when making a critical move .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also depends how many different friend groups you play the games with.
If you have 3 or 4 different game groups are you going to buy enough iPhones that each person can have one?
Or do you buy enough for your 6 player game and leave them on the shelf until you play the game?
Myself, I will continue to buy the $50+ board games and play them with whom I like when I like without having to be interrupted by text messages or phone calls when making a critical move.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954164</id>
	<title>Size</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1264756440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TOO SMALL!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TOO SMALL !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TOO SMALL!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954520</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1264757760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i just bought stratego and monopoly from target. they came in a wood box. all quality parts. $19.99.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i just bought stratego and monopoly from target .
they came in a wood box .
all quality parts .
$ 19.99 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i just bought stratego and monopoly from target.
they came in a wood box.
all quality parts.
$19.99.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954236</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956414</id>
	<title>hahaha</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264765380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pathetic, stupid fan boys trying to polish a turd. What next, also going to be ultimate doorstopper too?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pathetic , stupid fan boys trying to polish a turd .
What next , also going to be ultimate doorstopper too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pathetic, stupid fan boys trying to polish a turd.
What next, also going to be ultimate doorstopper too?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954264</id>
	<title>Re:Too Small</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1264756740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give me a 24"X24" one to play settlers of Catan on...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give me a 24 " X24 " one to play settlers of Catan on.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give me a 24"X24" one to play settlers of Catan on...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954172</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30996674</id>
	<title>iScrabble?</title>
	<author>CanHasDIY</author>
	<datestamp>1265131020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmmm... let me think about this for a second...

iPad - $600

4 iPhones (no contract) - $1600

Scrabble Board Game from Parker Bros. - $15<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... or, if you're one of those folks that absolutely has to go digital:

Scrabble Flash game from Pogo.com - Free

Something tells me that the only people willing to pay $2200 for a game of Scrabble will be Mac Fankids and other forms of idiot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm... let me think about this for a second.. . iPad - $ 600 4 iPhones ( no contract ) - $ 1600 Scrabble Board Game from Parker Bros. - $ 15 ... or , if you 're one of those folks that absolutely has to go digital : Scrabble Flash game from Pogo.com - Free Something tells me that the only people willing to pay $ 2200 for a game of Scrabble will be Mac Fankids and other forms of idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm... let me think about this for a second...

iPad - $600

4 iPhones (no contract) - $1600

Scrabble Board Game from Parker Bros. - $15 ... or, if you're one of those folks that absolutely has to go digital:

Scrabble Flash game from Pogo.com - Free

Something tells me that the only people willing to pay $2200 for a game of Scrabble will be Mac Fankids and other forms of idiot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30958168</id>
	<title>No.</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1264775280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It has not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It has not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955746</id>
	<title>Of course, Apple invented the board game.</title>
	<author>moxsam</author>
	<datestamp>1264762560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They did, didn't they?</htmltext>
<tokenext>They did , did n't they ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They did, didn't they?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30958534</id>
	<title>yep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264778460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it's gonna be a revolution in California at least. It will be used as a productivity tool. Artists and editors will use it to work. Engineers will use it. and most of all it's perfect for 2 players. There could be the retro return to table top games.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's gon na be a revolution in California at least .
It will be used as a productivity tool .
Artists and editors will use it to work .
Engineers will use it .
and most of all it 's perfect for 2 players .
There could be the retro return to table top games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's gonna be a revolution in California at least.
It will be used as a productivity tool.
Artists and editors will use it to work.
Engineers will use it.
and most of all it's perfect for 2 players.
There could be the retro return to table top games.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954274</id>
	<title>Re:Too Small</title>
	<author>hedwards</author>
	<datestamp>1264756740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Depends how you do it, most board games don't require you to have both precision and wide view at the same time. But, until this sort of thing comes way under the $100 mark I can't imagine it catching on for that purpose. Sure it might be a nice added value, but definitely not a perfect board game platform.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends how you do it , most board games do n't require you to have both precision and wide view at the same time .
But , until this sort of thing comes way under the $ 100 mark I ca n't imagine it catching on for that purpose .
Sure it might be a nice added value , but definitely not a perfect board game platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends how you do it, most board games don't require you to have both precision and wide view at the same time.
But, until this sort of thing comes way under the $100 mark I can't imagine it catching on for that purpose.
Sure it might be a nice added value, but definitely not a perfect board game platform.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954172</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954382</id>
	<title>No magic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264757160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Part of the magic of meatspace board games is losing the bits and pieces.</p><p>You can't do that on an iPad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Part of the magic of meatspace board games is losing the bits and pieces.You ca n't do that on an iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Part of the magic of meatspace board games is losing the bits and pieces.You can't do that on an iPad.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954326</id>
	<title>Board game? Maybe. Audio Controller? Yes.</title>
	<author>vitaflo</author>
	<datestamp>1264756920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can see people having fun with board games on the iPad but I'm not sure it really trumps a real board game.  Most board games aren't overly expensive as it is.</p><p>But what I do think the iPad could be really good at is custom audio controller interfaces.  More and more of these interfaces are starting to show up on computers, but much of the mouse/keyboard input doesn't really match the real life use of tweaking knobs and levers.  Multi-touch on a larger screen is a much better translation of this, and given how much physical audio controllers can cost, a few software reproductions of them could end up being a cost benefit for users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can see people having fun with board games on the iPad but I 'm not sure it really trumps a real board game .
Most board games are n't overly expensive as it is.But what I do think the iPad could be really good at is custom audio controller interfaces .
More and more of these interfaces are starting to show up on computers , but much of the mouse/keyboard input does n't really match the real life use of tweaking knobs and levers .
Multi-touch on a larger screen is a much better translation of this , and given how much physical audio controllers can cost , a few software reproductions of them could end up being a cost benefit for users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can see people having fun with board games on the iPad but I'm not sure it really trumps a real board game.
Most board games aren't overly expensive as it is.But what I do think the iPad could be really good at is custom audio controller interfaces.
More and more of these interfaces are starting to show up on computers, but much of the mouse/keyboard input doesn't really match the real life use of tweaking knobs and levers.
Multi-touch on a larger screen is a much better translation of this, and given how much physical audio controllers can cost, a few software reproductions of them could end up being a cost benefit for users.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30957154</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>Minigun\_Fiend</author>
	<datestamp>1264769100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Depends on your definition of cheap. Certainly Settlers and Power Grid are pretty cheap (&pound;20-&pound;30, respectively). Much, much cheaper than a new video game, and a lot of board games are cheaper (Carcassonne can be picked up new for &pound;15).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on your definition of cheap .
Certainly Settlers and Power Grid are pretty cheap (   20-   30 , respectively ) .
Much , much cheaper than a new video game , and a lot of board games are cheaper ( Carcassonne can be picked up new for   15 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on your definition of cheap.
Certainly Settlers and Power Grid are pretty cheap (£20-£30, respectively).
Much, much cheaper than a new video game, and a lot of board games are cheaper (Carcassonne can be picked up new for £15).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30960794</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>Neoprofin</author>
	<datestamp>1264849260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And all of those games would be absolute hell to play on a screen the size of an iPad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And all of those games would be absolute hell to play on a screen the size of an iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And all of those games would be absolute hell to play on a screen the size of an iPad.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954192</id>
	<title>Cool game of scrabble?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264756500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd hope a $1600 game of scrabble would be cool.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd hope a $ 1600 game of scrabble would be cool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd hope a $1600 game of scrabble would be cool.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954570</id>
	<title>And here is what Apple does marvelously!</title>
	<author>rehtonAesoohC</author>
	<datestamp>1264758000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have karma to burn, so what the hey.<br> <br>Apple doesn't create innovative products anymore. They've created a platform where they shift the onus of innovation onto their userbase, and then hope that people submit ideas and apps that are innovative, thereby reaping the benefit. Fairly genius move actually, but it reminds me of one of the best comedic movies ever: Tommy Boy.<p><div class="quote"><p>If you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will - I got spare time...</p></div><p>Everyone, buy an iPad so we can all keep eating shit in a box from Apple!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have karma to burn , so what the hey .
Apple does n't create innovative products anymore .
They 've created a platform where they shift the onus of innovation onto their userbase , and then hope that people submit ideas and apps that are innovative , thereby reaping the benefit .
Fairly genius move actually , but it reminds me of one of the best comedic movies ever : Tommy Boy.If you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed , I will - I got spare time...Everyone , buy an iPad so we can all keep eating shit in a box from Apple !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have karma to burn, so what the hey.
Apple doesn't create innovative products anymore.
They've created a platform where they shift the onus of innovation onto their userbase, and then hope that people submit ideas and apps that are innovative, thereby reaping the benefit.
Fairly genius move actually, but it reminds me of one of the best comedic movies ever: Tommy Boy.If you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will - I got spare time...Everyone, buy an iPad so we can all keep eating shit in a box from Apple!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954436</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>bjk002</author>
	<datestamp>1264757460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My kingdom for a mod point!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My kingdom for a mod point ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My kingdom for a mod point!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954926</id>
	<title>It has a curved back...</title>
	<author>swajr</author>
	<datestamp>1264759200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously?  I hate to point out the elephant in the room, but the back on this thing is CURVED.  This means that laying it flat on a table for board games is pretty much impossible.  Any time you press the device while it's laying on its back, you'll make the device jump around....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
I hate to point out the elephant in the room , but the back on this thing is CURVED .
This means that laying it flat on a table for board games is pretty much impossible .
Any time you press the device while it 's laying on its back , you 'll make the device jump around... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
I hate to point out the elephant in the room, but the back on this thing is CURVED.
This means that laying it flat on a table for board games is pretty much impossible.
Any time you press the device while it's laying on its back, you'll make the device jump around....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956530</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>ElSupreme</author>
	<datestamp>1264765800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah and you can't play stratego on a tablet, even with 2 iPhones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah and you ca n't play stratego on a tablet , even with 2 iPhones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah and you can't play stratego on a tablet, even with 2 iPhones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955110</id>
	<title>This article's intended audience was Slashdot.</title>
	<author>L3370</author>
	<datestamp>1264759860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The author wanted to see how much nerd rage they could whip up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The author wanted to see how much nerd rage they could whip up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The author wanted to see how much nerd rage they could whip up.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954410</id>
	<title>Ah! Now I get it!</title>
	<author>pandrijeczko</author>
	<datestamp>1264757280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We're not allowed to compare the iPad's functionality to a netbook because we're told it isn't a PC...</p><p>However, according to this article, it IS a games console. In which case, can we start speculating how that "hefty" 1GB A4 CPU copes with Call Of Duty Modern Warfare compared to the X-Box then?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're not allowed to compare the iPad 's functionality to a netbook because we 're told it is n't a PC...However , according to this article , it IS a games console .
In which case , can we start speculating how that " hefty " 1GB A4 CPU copes with Call Of Duty Modern Warfare compared to the X-Box then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're not allowed to compare the iPad's functionality to a netbook because we're told it isn't a PC...However, according to this article, it IS a games console.
In which case, can we start speculating how that "hefty" 1GB A4 CPU copes with Call Of Duty Modern Warfare compared to the X-Box then?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955134</id>
	<title>Re:Sure thing</title>
	<author>Dahamma</author>
	<datestamp>1264759980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And you make it sound so FUN!</p><p>Now I can't wait for iPad family game night, what a magical tradition that will be for the kids.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And you make it sound so FUN ! Now I ca n't wait for iPad family game night , what a magical tradition that will be for the kids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And you make it sound so FUN!Now I can't wait for iPad family game night, what a magical tradition that will be for the kids.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30955946</id>
	<title>Re:Uh, no. They didn't.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264763460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What board games are you buying and where are you shopping? Last time I checked Scrabble and Monopoly were still in the sub-20 dollar range. Even Axis and Allies is 40-50 bucks.</p></div><p>Those are some pretty old games. True, there are also many recent boardgames are also in the $20-$30 price bracket, but there are also a lot that cost $50+ even for just the basic game. With expansions, many games can easily cost more than $100. Even good old Settlers of Catan can get close to $200 if you buy all the expansions.</p><p>The basic ASL rulebook costs $100, and that's without any boards. Get Beyond Valor as well, and you're close to $200. I'm sure there are people who've spent more than $1000 on that game. (Hm... porting VASL to the iPad could be a very good idea.)</p><p>Speaking of games that people spend $1000s on, what about Magic the Gathering? Playing that on a couple of automated boards so you don't have to buy all the cards, could save you a fortune.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What board games are you buying and where are you shopping ?
Last time I checked Scrabble and Monopoly were still in the sub-20 dollar range .
Even Axis and Allies is 40-50 bucks.Those are some pretty old games .
True , there are also many recent boardgames are also in the $ 20- $ 30 price bracket , but there are also a lot that cost $ 50 + even for just the basic game .
With expansions , many games can easily cost more than $ 100 .
Even good old Settlers of Catan can get close to $ 200 if you buy all the expansions.The basic ASL rulebook costs $ 100 , and that 's without any boards .
Get Beyond Valor as well , and you 're close to $ 200 .
I 'm sure there are people who 've spent more than $ 1000 on that game .
( Hm... porting VASL to the iPad could be a very good idea .
) Speaking of games that people spend $ 1000s on , what about Magic the Gathering ?
Playing that on a couple of automated boards so you do n't have to buy all the cards , could save you a fortune .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What board games are you buying and where are you shopping?
Last time I checked Scrabble and Monopoly were still in the sub-20 dollar range.
Even Axis and Allies is 40-50 bucks.Those are some pretty old games.
True, there are also many recent boardgames are also in the $20-$30 price bracket, but there are also a lot that cost $50+ even for just the basic game.
With expansions, many games can easily cost more than $100.
Even good old Settlers of Catan can get close to $200 if you buy all the expansions.The basic ASL rulebook costs $100, and that's without any boards.
Get Beyond Valor as well, and you're close to $200.
I'm sure there are people who've spent more than $1000 on that game.
(Hm... porting VASL to the iPad could be a very good idea.
)Speaking of games that people spend $1000s on, what about Magic the Gathering?
Playing that on a couple of automated boards so you don't have to buy all the cards, could save you a fortune.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30956872</id>
	<title>I prefer the dead-tree version</title>
	<author>Gothmolly</author>
	<datestamp>1264767540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you scratch the top of your scrabble board, you are not out $500.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you scratch the top of your scrabble board , you are not out $ 500 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you scratch the top of your scrabble board, you are not out $500.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1450255.30954684</id>
	<title>No it's not.</title>
	<author>CFBMoo1</author>
	<datestamp>1264758360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although this will more likely be more expensive, it's a much better platform for games like that because of the larger screen. You can still use the iPad or iPhones for tossing out tiles though. I imagine the iPads would be better for that since they're a larger screen then the phones.<br><br>http://www.microsoft.com/surface/Pages/Product/WhatIs.aspx</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although this will more likely be more expensive , it 's a much better platform for games like that because of the larger screen .
You can still use the iPad or iPhones for tossing out tiles though .
I imagine the iPads would be better for that since they 're a larger screen then the phones.http : //www.microsoft.com/surface/Pages/Product/WhatIs.aspx</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although this will more likely be more expensive, it's a much better platform for games like that because of the larger screen.
You can still use the iPad or iPhones for tossing out tiles though.
I imagine the iPads would be better for that since they're a larger screen then the phones.http://www.microsoft.com/surface/Pages/Product/WhatIs.aspx</sentencetext>
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