<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_29_1448208</id>
	<title>MSI Will Launch iPad Alternative</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1264781880000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>itwbennett writes <i>"Underwhelmed by the iPad? Don't give up on tablets just yet, says blogger Peter Smith. MSI has a tablet coming in the second half of 2010 that measures up on price and size and <a href="http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/94697/msi-ready-launch-ipad-alternative">addresses a lot of the iPad's most noted shortcomings</a>. 'The iPad runs iPhone OS while the MSI runs Android,' writes Smith. 'That means the MSI will multitask of course, and Flash support in Android should be a given by launch time (though that isn't certain). It has a camera. It's running on an Nvidia Tegra2 chip which Ars Technica suggests puts it on par with the iPad's A4 as far as computing horsepower. And of course Android doesn't live in a walled garden.'"</i> The post notes that the MSI device does not support multitouch in its built-in apps. Still, would an Android-powered iPad-alike tempt you? <br> <br> <b>Update: 01/29 17:58 GMT</b> by <b> <a href="http://slashdot.org/~kdawson/">KD</a> </b>: Dave Altavilla suggests Hot Hardware's coverage of <a href="http://hothardware.com/News/Asus-Confirms-ARM-Tegra-2Based-Eee-Pad-Slate/">Asus's recently announced tablet</a>, also based on the Tegra2 chip.</htmltext>
<tokenext>itwbennett writes " Underwhelmed by the iPad ?
Do n't give up on tablets just yet , says blogger Peter Smith .
MSI has a tablet coming in the second half of 2010 that measures up on price and size and addresses a lot of the iPad 's most noted shortcomings .
'The iPad runs iPhone OS while the MSI runs Android, ' writes Smith .
'That means the MSI will multitask of course , and Flash support in Android should be a given by launch time ( though that is n't certain ) .
It has a camera .
It 's running on an Nvidia Tegra2 chip which Ars Technica suggests puts it on par with the iPad 's A4 as far as computing horsepower .
And of course Android does n't live in a walled garden .
' " The post notes that the MSI device does not support multitouch in its built-in apps .
Still , would an Android-powered iPad-alike tempt you ?
Update : 01/29 17 : 58 GMT by KD : Dave Altavilla suggests Hot Hardware 's coverage of Asus 's recently announced tablet , also based on the Tegra2 chip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>itwbennett writes "Underwhelmed by the iPad?
Don't give up on tablets just yet, says blogger Peter Smith.
MSI has a tablet coming in the second half of 2010 that measures up on price and size and addresses a lot of the iPad's most noted shortcomings.
'The iPad runs iPhone OS while the MSI runs Android,' writes Smith.
'That means the MSI will multitask of course, and Flash support in Android should be a given by launch time (though that isn't certain).
It has a camera.
It's running on an Nvidia Tegra2 chip which Ars Technica suggests puts it on par with the iPad's A4 as far as computing horsepower.
And of course Android doesn't live in a walled garden.
'" The post notes that the MSI device does not support multitouch in its built-in apps.
Still, would an Android-powered iPad-alike tempt you?
Update: 01/29 17:58 GMT by  KD : Dave Altavilla suggests Hot Hardware's coverage of Asus's recently announced tablet, also based on the Tegra2 chip.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951958</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>slim</author>
	<datestamp>1264790100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By that logic a mouse is non-essential. But people like pointer-based interaction so much that they won't do without any more. Touch is going to become like that (especially as it becomes cheaper to provide).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By that logic a mouse is non-essential .
But people like pointer-based interaction so much that they wo n't do without any more .
Touch is going to become like that ( especially as it becomes cheaper to provide ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By that logic a mouse is non-essential.
But people like pointer-based interaction so much that they won't do without any more.
Touch is going to become like that (especially as it becomes cheaper to provide).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30960898</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1264850400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Microsoft One-Note. It's the killer tablet app.</p></div></blockquote><p>I've been using One Note for quite some time. I've never had the slightest urge to have a touchscreen with it. Nor have I ever thought it would be even half as useful without a keyboard. How is it "the killer tablet app"?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft One-Note .
It 's the killer tablet app.I 've been using One Note for quite some time .
I 've never had the slightest urge to have a touchscreen with it .
Nor have I ever thought it would be even half as useful without a keyboard .
How is it " the killer tablet app " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft One-Note.
It's the killer tablet app.I've been using One Note for quite some time.
I've never had the slightest urge to have a touchscreen with it.
Nor have I ever thought it would be even half as useful without a keyboard.
How is it "the killer tablet app"?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952094</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954584</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm.</title>
	<author>MrNiceguy\_KS</author>
	<datestamp>1264758060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>YES! A thousand times THIS!</p><p>Give me an SD slot so I can get files on and off when I'm away from a computer.  Imagine using the tablet to review the photos you just took - just swap the card from your camera to the tablet.</p><p>And for crying out loud, when will Apple get the stick out of their butt and allow Flash support?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>YES !
A thousand times THIS ! Give me an SD slot so I can get files on and off when I 'm away from a computer .
Imagine using the tablet to review the photos you just took - just swap the card from your camera to the tablet.And for crying out loud , when will Apple get the stick out of their butt and allow Flash support ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YES!
A thousand times THIS!Give me an SD slot so I can get files on and off when I'm away from a computer.
Imagine using the tablet to review the photos you just took - just swap the card from your camera to the tablet.And for crying out loud, when will Apple get the stick out of their butt and allow Flash support?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950928</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30956468</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>locallyunscene</author>
	<datestamp>1264765560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looks like the Notion Ink Adam might suit your needs. Don't know what the price is yet though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like the Notion Ink Adam might suit your needs .
Do n't know what the price is yet though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like the Notion Ink Adam might suit your needs.
Don't know what the price is yet though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950912</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951188</id>
	<title>iPad has nothing on android.</title>
	<author>darjen</author>
	<datestamp>1264787580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Features I would require to purchase a tablet:</p><p>multitasking<br>sd and usb slot<br>flash support</p><p>Nice to have:</p><p>16x9<br>hdmi out<br>camera</p><p>iPad fails miserably on ALL of the above. Android is where the future of tablet lies, in my opinion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Features I would require to purchase a tablet : multitaskingsd and usb slotflash supportNice to have : 16x9hdmi outcameraiPad fails miserably on ALL of the above .
Android is where the future of tablet lies , in my opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Features I would require to purchase a tablet:multitaskingsd and usb slotflash supportNice to have:16x9hdmi outcameraiPad fails miserably on ALL of the above.
Android is where the future of tablet lies, in my opinion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951184</id>
	<title>MSI Tablet + Android = ...</title>
	<author>saintory</author>
	<datestamp>1264787580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tabloid?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tabloid ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tabloid?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950576</id>
	<title>Only if it has an IPS panel.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264785480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While Apple may prove that it is indeed possible to put a better-than-TN LCD panel in a small (laptop-like) form factor, MSI would do well to follow the lead on quality.</p><p>That might provoke Lenovo to bring something back to their laptops that has been missing for a while.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While Apple may prove that it is indeed possible to put a better-than-TN LCD panel in a small ( laptop-like ) form factor , MSI would do well to follow the lead on quality.That might provoke Lenovo to bring something back to their laptops that has been missing for a while .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While Apple may prove that it is indeed possible to put a better-than-TN LCD panel in a small (laptop-like) form factor, MSI would do well to follow the lead on quality.That might provoke Lenovo to bring something back to their laptops that has been missing for a while.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953208</id>
	<title>How Google can win</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1264795020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
This should be Google's pitch:
</p><p>
"This is our book reader.  It has every book in the New York Public Library. It has every book in Harvard's library.   It has every new book as soon as it's published. It has every major newspaper and magazine. And, of course, it's all searchable; we're Google.  For one flat rate of $20 per month, you can read it all."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This should be Google 's pitch : " This is our book reader .
It has every book in the New York Public Library .
It has every book in Harvard 's library .
It has every new book as soon as it 's published .
It has every major newspaper and magazine .
And , of course , it 's all searchable ; we 're Google .
For one flat rate of $ 20 per month , you can read it all .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
This should be Google's pitch:

"This is our book reader.
It has every book in the New York Public Library.
It has every book in Harvard's library.
It has every new book as soon as it's published.
It has every major newspaper and magazine.
And, of course, it's all searchable; we're Google.
For one flat rate of $20 per month, you can read it all.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30983296</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265048280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The iPad does have a touchscreen. Does that offset the $200 and all other disadvantages?</i></p><p>Actually, if you want to go up to a $450-$500 netbook, like the Asus T91MT, you can get the multi-touch screen on your netbook.  You can even use the swiveling-screen to set it up like a tablet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad does have a touchscreen .
Does that offset the $ 200 and all other disadvantages ? Actually , if you want to go up to a $ 450- $ 500 netbook , like the Asus T91MT , you can get the multi-touch screen on your netbook .
You can even use the swiveling-screen to set it up like a tablet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad does have a touchscreen.
Does that offset the $200 and all other disadvantages?Actually, if you want to go up to a $450-$500 netbook, like the Asus T91MT, you can get the multi-touch screen on your netbook.
You can even use the swiveling-screen to set it up like a tablet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951344</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951344</id>
	<title>iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1264788180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processor<br>128 MB of RAM (assumed like iPhone, not explicitly stated in specs) versus 1024 MB of RAM<br>16 GB of storage versus 160 GB of storage<br>No webcam versus a webcam<br>No keyboard versus a keyboard<br>No Flash veruss Flash<br>No multi-tasking versus multi-tasking<br>No Windows or Linux apps versus install whatever you want<br>$500 versus $300.</p><p>The iPad does have a touchscreen. Does that offset the $200 and all other disadvantages?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processor128 MB of RAM ( assumed like iPhone , not explicitly stated in specs ) versus 1024 MB of RAM16 GB of storage versus 160 GB of storageNo webcam versus a webcamNo keyboard versus a keyboardNo Flash veruss FlashNo multi-tasking versus multi-taskingNo Windows or Linux apps versus install whatever you want $ 500 versus $ 300.The iPad does have a touchscreen .
Does that offset the $ 200 and all other disadvantages ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processor128 MB of RAM (assumed like iPhone, not explicitly stated in specs) versus 1024 MB of RAM16 GB of storage versus 160 GB of storageNo webcam versus a webcamNo keyboard versus a keyboardNo Flash veruss FlashNo multi-tasking versus multi-taskingNo Windows or Linux apps versus install whatever you want$500 versus $300.The iPad does have a touchscreen.
Does that offset the $200 and all other disadvantages?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952144</id>
	<title>Maybe Apple missed the point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264790820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPad is a computer that the manufacturer has decided to make less functional via closed architecture.  The only reason Apple gets away with this on phones and mp3 players is that their products still do MORE than competitors -- in spite of the closed architecture.</p><p>If Netbooks never existed, the iPad would be compared only with dedicated readers like the Kindle.  And on that basis, it would be a nice product.  But netbooks DO exist and they cost less while offering more.</p><p>I think Steve Jobs is having a second childhood; repeating some of the "walled garden" mistakes that nearly killed Apple back in the late 1980's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad is a computer that the manufacturer has decided to make less functional via closed architecture .
The only reason Apple gets away with this on phones and mp3 players is that their products still do MORE than competitors -- in spite of the closed architecture.If Netbooks never existed , the iPad would be compared only with dedicated readers like the Kindle .
And on that basis , it would be a nice product .
But netbooks DO exist and they cost less while offering more.I think Steve Jobs is having a second childhood ; repeating some of the " walled garden " mistakes that nearly killed Apple back in the late 1980 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad is a computer that the manufacturer has decided to make less functional via closed architecture.
The only reason Apple gets away with this on phones and mp3 players is that their products still do MORE than competitors -- in spite of the closed architecture.If Netbooks never existed, the iPad would be compared only with dedicated readers like the Kindle.
And on that basis, it would be a nice product.
But netbooks DO exist and they cost less while offering more.I think Steve Jobs is having a second childhood; repeating some of the "walled garden" mistakes that nearly killed Apple back in the late 1980's.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950858</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950736</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264786020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For about $79.00 and a couple of hours of work you can make your Acer Aspire one touchscreen.   I found a kit on ebay and made it fit.</p><p>it's not hard.  give you touch which is actually really nice considering how crappy trackpad pointing is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For about $ 79.00 and a couple of hours of work you can make your Acer Aspire one touchscreen .
I found a kit on ebay and made it fit.it 's not hard .
give you touch which is actually really nice considering how crappy trackpad pointing is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For about $79.00 and a couple of hours of work you can make your Acer Aspire one touchscreen.
I found a kit on ebay and made it fit.it's not hard.
give you touch which is actually really nice considering how crappy trackpad pointing is.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950584</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950984</id>
	<title>No multitouch?</title>
	<author>Liquidrage</author>
	<datestamp>1264786860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No multitouch like the droid doesn't have multitouch (the droid certainly does support multitouch)? The default browser doesn't (other browers and apps on the device do) and it's up to each app to support it.
<br> <br>
Or, in this case, is there really no multitouch?</htmltext>
<tokenext>No multitouch like the droid does n't have multitouch ( the droid certainly does support multitouch ) ?
The default browser does n't ( other browers and apps on the device do ) and it 's up to each app to support it .
Or , in this case , is there really no multitouch ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No multitouch like the droid doesn't have multitouch (the droid certainly does support multitouch)?
The default browser doesn't (other browers and apps on the device do) and it's up to each app to support it.
Or, in this case, is there really no multitouch?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952654</id>
	<title>5 Words</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264792680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's an app for that</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's an app for that</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's an app for that</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950858</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954140</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>Rockoon</author>
	<datestamp>1264756320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I need development tools on the device, including an assembler as well as a simple high level RAD language that can call that assembler code.<br>
<br>
So for me, I pretty much need Windows or Linux.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I need development tools on the device , including an assembler as well as a simple high level RAD language that can call that assembler code .
So for me , I pretty much need Windows or Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I need development tools on the device, including an assembler as well as a simple high level RAD language that can call that assembler code.
So for me, I pretty much need Windows or Linux.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950912</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30956962</id>
	<title>Why not sunlight?</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1264768080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can use my Macbook in sunlight today, so I fail to see how that will stop me from reading books on an even brighter LED display.</p><p>Personally I find the grayish eInk pages harder to read than LCD's.  I love the idea of eInk but am still not happy with the quality of products using it yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can use my Macbook in sunlight today , so I fail to see how that will stop me from reading books on an even brighter LED display.Personally I find the grayish eInk pages harder to read than LCD 's .
I love the idea of eInk but am still not happy with the quality of products using it yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can use my Macbook in sunlight today, so I fail to see how that will stop me from reading books on an even brighter LED display.Personally I find the grayish eInk pages harder to read than LCD's.
I love the idea of eInk but am still not happy with the quality of products using it yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951742</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30956310</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264765020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and the msi tablet would pown both in the cpu speed department.  a single core a9 is as fast as any atom on the timeline (they have the same dmips numbers, ghz is outdated for performance). a dual a9 will probably aproach a culv core 2 in real performance. the quad a9 should be able to perform at the same speed as a core 2 duo.</p><p>(plus the tegra's nvidia gpu blows away the 950, the x3100, the x4500, the gma500, and the powervx chip in performance)<br>and they have lower power consumption, less complicated(transistor count), and cost less<br>sounds like a9's are going to rule the roost<br>Intel better be worried.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and the msi tablet would pown both in the cpu speed department .
a single core a9 is as fast as any atom on the timeline ( they have the same dmips numbers , ghz is outdated for performance ) .
a dual a9 will probably aproach a culv core 2 in real performance .
the quad a9 should be able to perform at the same speed as a core 2 duo .
( plus the tegra 's nvidia gpu blows away the 950 , the x3100 , the x4500 , the gma500 , and the powervx chip in performance ) and they have lower power consumption , less complicated ( transistor count ) , and cost lesssounds like a9 's are going to rule the roostIntel better be worried .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and the msi tablet would pown both in the cpu speed department.
a single core a9 is as fast as any atom on the timeline (they have the same dmips numbers, ghz is outdated for performance).
a dual a9 will probably aproach a culv core 2 in real performance.
the quad a9 should be able to perform at the same speed as a core 2 duo.
(plus the tegra's nvidia gpu blows away the 950, the x3100, the x4500, the gma500, and the powervx chip in performance)and they have lower power consumption, less complicated(transistor count), and cost lesssounds like a9's are going to rule the roostIntel better be worried.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952254</id>
	<title>Better, still don't see it as compelling.</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1264791120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Still, would an Android-powered iPad-alike tempt you?</p></div></blockquote><p>Not really -- at least until someone comes up with a compelling use for that style tablet. An iPad-like tablet (as opposed to the "tablet convertible" models) is a combination of an a computer with a clumsy interface for most computer tasks (e.g., if you actually need to do text entry, the "keyboard" takes up display real estate) with an ebook reader that adds color and support for more interactivity but sacrifices readability compared to dedicated, e-ink based designs.</p><p>Tablet convertibles -- running general-purpose environments like Ubuntu or even Windows -- are pretty much superior in every way, and a netbook <i>plus</i> a dedicated ereader isn't much more expensive, and is more useful in many ways.</p><p>An Android-powered iPad-alike tablet would be more interesting (if the price and hardware are comparable) than a large-screen iPod Touch, but not enough to provide a compelling reason to buy into that particular form factor.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Still , would an Android-powered iPad-alike tempt you ? Not really -- at least until someone comes up with a compelling use for that style tablet .
An iPad-like tablet ( as opposed to the " tablet convertible " models ) is a combination of an a computer with a clumsy interface for most computer tasks ( e.g. , if you actually need to do text entry , the " keyboard " takes up display real estate ) with an ebook reader that adds color and support for more interactivity but sacrifices readability compared to dedicated , e-ink based designs.Tablet convertibles -- running general-purpose environments like Ubuntu or even Windows -- are pretty much superior in every way , and a netbook plus a dedicated ereader is n't much more expensive , and is more useful in many ways.An Android-powered iPad-alike tablet would be more interesting ( if the price and hardware are comparable ) than a large-screen iPod Touch , but not enough to provide a compelling reason to buy into that particular form factor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still, would an Android-powered iPad-alike tempt you?Not really -- at least until someone comes up with a compelling use for that style tablet.
An iPad-like tablet (as opposed to the "tablet convertible" models) is a combination of an a computer with a clumsy interface for most computer tasks (e.g., if you actually need to do text entry, the "keyboard" takes up display real estate) with an ebook reader that adds color and support for more interactivity but sacrifices readability compared to dedicated, e-ink based designs.Tablet convertibles -- running general-purpose environments like Ubuntu or even Windows -- are pretty much superior in every way, and a netbook plus a dedicated ereader isn't much more expensive, and is more useful in many ways.An Android-powered iPad-alike tablet would be more interesting (if the price and hardware are comparable) than a large-screen iPod Touch, but not enough to provide a compelling reason to buy into that particular form factor.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30956392</id>
	<title>Bad comparisons</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1264765260000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><i>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processor</i></p><p>On chips with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURES.  I thought this was a technical site. And how do you even know the processor rating of the A4?</p><p><i>128 MB of RAM (assumed like iPhone, not explicitly stated in specs) versus 1024 MB of RAM</i></p><p>Why would you assume something with four times the screen estate and (again) a totally different processor and more internal physical space would not have more RAM?</p><p>Furthermore, you note the Netbook has more memory - but that's pretty meaningless when you are comparing devices with totally different OS's and development environments.  And on top of that, you need far more memory on the Netbook exactly because it allows multitasking of third party applications.  It's not at all clear to me the Netbook as the better spec there, and the iPad can browse many hundreds of pictures where the Netbook in question seems to crap out after a view (the video showed an out of memory error loading photos).</p><p><i>No webcam versus a webcam</i></p><p>Since I have yet to use the camera in my laptop I'm dubious about how much that matters, but I can see where some people might like that so I'll give you that... (though you could always use an app to attach to an external IP webcam).</p><p><i>No keyboard versus a keyboard</i></p><p>Now there the iPad has you, since it has an infinite number of keyboards.  Some of them are in fact even physical since you can use bluetooth keyboards, but you have the freedom to be without when that is more convenient.</p><p><i>No Flash veruss Flash</i></p><p>Here I am confused which you are trying to cheer for, because who uses flash anymore apart from video?  And most of the flash video is using the same h.264 that is native to the iPad, which is why there are many flash video sites that just give you h.264 video directly when browsing from an iPhone (and soon, the iPad).  To complain about the lack of flash games seems amusing when you could spend a whole year just trying free game demos at this point.</p><p><i>No multi-tasking versus multi-tasking</i></p><p>This is technically inaccurate.  The iPad (just like the iPhone) supports multitasking for many Apple included apps.  Your mail client is checking email in the background, music plays while you run any app.  The multitasking limitation is only between third party apps - and even there via notifications your app can ask the user to bring it back up for some important event.</p><p><i>No Windows or Linux apps versus install whatever you want</i></p><p>Not sure where you are going with that one, except that I will say there are very few applications tailored to the form factor of the netbook or PC tablet, while there are around a hundred K already built targeting multi-touch, and with a little overhaul can make full use of the larger iPad display.</p><p><i>$500 versus $300.</i></p><p>And how long is that $300 device going to last vs the iPad?  And how much time will you waste trying to work on such an underpowered system vs. using software tailored to the device at hand?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processorOn chips with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURES .
I thought this was a technical site .
And how do you even know the processor rating of the A4 ? 128 MB of RAM ( assumed like iPhone , not explicitly stated in specs ) versus 1024 MB of RAMWhy would you assume something with four times the screen estate and ( again ) a totally different processor and more internal physical space would not have more RAM ? Furthermore , you note the Netbook has more memory - but that 's pretty meaningless when you are comparing devices with totally different OS 's and development environments .
And on top of that , you need far more memory on the Netbook exactly because it allows multitasking of third party applications .
It 's not at all clear to me the Netbook as the better spec there , and the iPad can browse many hundreds of pictures where the Netbook in question seems to crap out after a view ( the video showed an out of memory error loading photos ) .No webcam versus a webcamSince I have yet to use the camera in my laptop I 'm dubious about how much that matters , but I can see where some people might like that so I 'll give you that... ( though you could always use an app to attach to an external IP webcam ) .No keyboard versus a keyboardNow there the iPad has you , since it has an infinite number of keyboards .
Some of them are in fact even physical since you can use bluetooth keyboards , but you have the freedom to be without when that is more convenient.No Flash veruss FlashHere I am confused which you are trying to cheer for , because who uses flash anymore apart from video ?
And most of the flash video is using the same h.264 that is native to the iPad , which is why there are many flash video sites that just give you h.264 video directly when browsing from an iPhone ( and soon , the iPad ) .
To complain about the lack of flash games seems amusing when you could spend a whole year just trying free game demos at this point.No multi-tasking versus multi-taskingThis is technically inaccurate .
The iPad ( just like the iPhone ) supports multitasking for many Apple included apps .
Your mail client is checking email in the background , music plays while you run any app .
The multitasking limitation is only between third party apps - and even there via notifications your app can ask the user to bring it back up for some important event.No Windows or Linux apps versus install whatever you wantNot sure where you are going with that one , except that I will say there are very few applications tailored to the form factor of the netbook or PC tablet , while there are around a hundred K already built targeting multi-touch , and with a little overhaul can make full use of the larger iPad display. $ 500 versus $ 300.And how long is that $ 300 device going to last vs the iPad ?
And how much time will you waste trying to work on such an underpowered system vs. using software tailored to the device at hand ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processorOn chips with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURES.
I thought this was a technical site.
And how do you even know the processor rating of the A4?128 MB of RAM (assumed like iPhone, not explicitly stated in specs) versus 1024 MB of RAMWhy would you assume something with four times the screen estate and (again) a totally different processor and more internal physical space would not have more RAM?Furthermore, you note the Netbook has more memory - but that's pretty meaningless when you are comparing devices with totally different OS's and development environments.
And on top of that, you need far more memory on the Netbook exactly because it allows multitasking of third party applications.
It's not at all clear to me the Netbook as the better spec there, and the iPad can browse many hundreds of pictures where the Netbook in question seems to crap out after a view (the video showed an out of memory error loading photos).No webcam versus a webcamSince I have yet to use the camera in my laptop I'm dubious about how much that matters, but I can see where some people might like that so I'll give you that... (though you could always use an app to attach to an external IP webcam).No keyboard versus a keyboardNow there the iPad has you, since it has an infinite number of keyboards.
Some of them are in fact even physical since you can use bluetooth keyboards, but you have the freedom to be without when that is more convenient.No Flash veruss FlashHere I am confused which you are trying to cheer for, because who uses flash anymore apart from video?
And most of the flash video is using the same h.264 that is native to the iPad, which is why there are many flash video sites that just give you h.264 video directly when browsing from an iPhone (and soon, the iPad).
To complain about the lack of flash games seems amusing when you could spend a whole year just trying free game demos at this point.No multi-tasking versus multi-taskingThis is technically inaccurate.
The iPad (just like the iPhone) supports multitasking for many Apple included apps.
Your mail client is checking email in the background, music plays while you run any app.
The multitasking limitation is only between third party apps - and even there via notifications your app can ask the user to bring it back up for some important event.No Windows or Linux apps versus install whatever you wantNot sure where you are going with that one, except that I will say there are very few applications tailored to the form factor of the netbook or PC tablet, while there are around a hundred K already built targeting multi-touch, and with a little overhaul can make full use of the larger iPad display.$500 versus $300.And how long is that $300 device going to last vs the iPad?
And how much time will you waste trying to work on such an underpowered system vs. using software tailored to the device at hand?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1264788720000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>A better touchscreen interface is the difference between an app<br>being something that you are vaguely aware of but never use vs.<br>something that you use constantly. Your basic input devices are<br>by no means trivial.</p><p>If Apple maintains this edge, it will be hard for competitors that<br>are more functional in other areas to get any anywhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A better touchscreen interface is the difference between an appbeing something that you are vaguely aware of but never use vs.something that you use constantly .
Your basic input devices areby no means trivial.If Apple maintains this edge , it will be hard for competitors thatare more functional in other areas to get any anywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A better touchscreen interface is the difference between an appbeing something that you are vaguely aware of but never use vs.something that you use constantly.
Your basic input devices areby no means trivial.If Apple maintains this edge, it will be hard for competitors thatare more functional in other areas to get any anywhere.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953730</id>
	<title>Re:I think they are horrible.</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1264797600000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Do you have thick calluses, or some other weirdness of the fingers? As a guitar player, I have very thick calluses on my fretting hand (left), and yeah, capacitive touch screens are trouble. Generally works great with my right hand, though (I use a DROID, and have had no problem operating iPhones, aside from a slight sense of revulsion).</p><p>One option is to use a conductive stylus. Regular plastic one is only for resistive touch panels, but if it conducts electricity well enough, it'll work fine on a capacitive screen. And the contact with your hand negates the insulating effect of thick fingers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you have thick calluses , or some other weirdness of the fingers ?
As a guitar player , I have very thick calluses on my fretting hand ( left ) , and yeah , capacitive touch screens are trouble .
Generally works great with my right hand , though ( I use a DROID , and have had no problem operating iPhones , aside from a slight sense of revulsion ) .One option is to use a conductive stylus .
Regular plastic one is only for resistive touch panels , but if it conducts electricity well enough , it 'll work fine on a capacitive screen .
And the contact with your hand negates the insulating effect of thick fingers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you have thick calluses, or some other weirdness of the fingers?
As a guitar player, I have very thick calluses on my fretting hand (left), and yeah, capacitive touch screens are trouble.
Generally works great with my right hand, though (I use a DROID, and have had no problem operating iPhones, aside from a slight sense of revulsion).One option is to use a conductive stylus.
Regular plastic one is only for resistive touch panels, but if it conducts electricity well enough, it'll work fine on a capacitive screen.
And the contact with your hand negates the insulating effect of thick fingers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952946</id>
	<title>Already a competing device that exists today...</title>
	<author>xavierpayne</author>
	<datestamp>1264793940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>archos.

<a href="http://www.archos.com/" title="archos.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.archos.com/</a> [archos.com]

The 9 in particular can run a complete desktop os (it ships with Windows7). But they have scaled down versions that run android and linux.

The 9 can be had in its basic configuration for $550. It's stock configuration is on par with the iPad processing wise and blows it away on the openness and additional features front. Built in web cam, standard usb ports, 60gb hd.</htmltext>
<tokenext>archos .
http : //www.archos.com/ [ archos.com ] The 9 in particular can run a complete desktop os ( it ships with Windows7 ) .
But they have scaled down versions that run android and linux .
The 9 can be had in its basic configuration for $ 550 .
It 's stock configuration is on par with the iPad processing wise and blows it away on the openness and additional features front .
Built in web cam , standard usb ports , 60gb hd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>archos.
http://www.archos.com/ [archos.com]

The 9 in particular can run a complete desktop os (it ships with Windows7).
But they have scaled down versions that run android and linux.
The 9 can be had in its basic configuration for $550.
It's stock configuration is on par with the iPad processing wise and blows it away on the openness and additional features front.
Built in web cam, standard usb ports, 60gb hd.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954202</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264756500000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>...decent user interface vs. some crappy Linux distro and/or Windows.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...non-flimsy construction vs. cheap, flexing, creaking plastic.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...handheld device vs. desk or lap device.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... half the thickness vs. a bulky object.</p><p>Yeah.  You could make comparisons all day, but the OS, user interface and the non-cheapass plastic construction definitely are worth a $200 difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...decent user interface vs. some crappy Linux distro and/or Windows .
...non-flimsy construction vs. cheap , flexing , creaking plastic .
...handheld device vs. desk or lap device .
... half the thickness vs. a bulky object.Yeah .
You could make comparisons all day , but the OS , user interface and the non-cheapass plastic construction definitely are worth a $ 200 difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...decent user interface vs. some crappy Linux distro and/or Windows.
...non-flimsy construction vs. cheap, flexing, creaking plastic.
...handheld device vs. desk or lap device.
... half the thickness vs. a bulky object.Yeah.
You could make comparisons all day, but the OS, user interface and the non-cheapass plastic construction definitely are worth a $200 difference.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:On par?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264788780000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>The A4 and the Tegra2 are both (purportedly in the case of the A4) based on the ARM Cortex A9.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The A4 and the Tegra2 are both ( purportedly in the case of the A4 ) based on the ARM Cortex A9 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The A4 and the Tegra2 are both (purportedly in the case of the A4) based on the ARM Cortex A9.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>zullnero</author>
	<datestamp>1264792620000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Hey, that's precisely how most folks felt about PDAs, too!  Those PDAs worked really pretty similarly...most of them ran one app at a time really well (unless it was a WinCE device).  But it turned out that you could do a lot with a phone and a laptop...and that having a PDA was really a luxury.  That's what the iPad is...it's a luxury.  It's for people with 500-800 bucks to blow on a device that sits on a table, waiting for strangers to use to check their email or...read...stuff.  And hey, if you have 500-800 bucks to blow, I can think of many less useful ways to unload that cash.  But that's the point.  There are better ways to unload that cash.
<br> <br>
I'm sure there will be plenty of rich people who'd line up for this thing, and hey, probably a few less wealthy people with tax refunds to blow.  But a netbook gives people a cheaper computer alternative to do actual work.  A smartphone provides a communication device.  A tablet...well, it's kinda redundant there.  A computer and a phone are viewed as needs by people.  A tablet is a straight up luxury item.  It's a tweener, and that's why its long term success is going to be about the same as the PDA.  Now, if you had a cheap tablet just for reading books, or an expensive, big tablet for streaming media, those replace two actual entertainment needs for a lot of people.  Those could work.  But the iPad is a tweener device.  It does a lot of things, but nothing really better than products already available.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , that 's precisely how most folks felt about PDAs , too !
Those PDAs worked really pretty similarly...most of them ran one app at a time really well ( unless it was a WinCE device ) .
But it turned out that you could do a lot with a phone and a laptop...and that having a PDA was really a luxury .
That 's what the iPad is...it 's a luxury .
It 's for people with 500-800 bucks to blow on a device that sits on a table , waiting for strangers to use to check their email or...read...stuff .
And hey , if you have 500-800 bucks to blow , I can think of many less useful ways to unload that cash .
But that 's the point .
There are better ways to unload that cash .
I 'm sure there will be plenty of rich people who 'd line up for this thing , and hey , probably a few less wealthy people with tax refunds to blow .
But a netbook gives people a cheaper computer alternative to do actual work .
A smartphone provides a communication device .
A tablet...well , it 's kinda redundant there .
A computer and a phone are viewed as needs by people .
A tablet is a straight up luxury item .
It 's a tweener , and that 's why its long term success is going to be about the same as the PDA .
Now , if you had a cheap tablet just for reading books , or an expensive , big tablet for streaming media , those replace two actual entertainment needs for a lot of people .
Those could work .
But the iPad is a tweener device .
It does a lot of things , but nothing really better than products already available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, that's precisely how most folks felt about PDAs, too!
Those PDAs worked really pretty similarly...most of them ran one app at a time really well (unless it was a WinCE device).
But it turned out that you could do a lot with a phone and a laptop...and that having a PDA was really a luxury.
That's what the iPad is...it's a luxury.
It's for people with 500-800 bucks to blow on a device that sits on a table, waiting for strangers to use to check their email or...read...stuff.
And hey, if you have 500-800 bucks to blow, I can think of many less useful ways to unload that cash.
But that's the point.
There are better ways to unload that cash.
I'm sure there will be plenty of rich people who'd line up for this thing, and hey, probably a few less wealthy people with tax refunds to blow.
But a netbook gives people a cheaper computer alternative to do actual work.
A smartphone provides a communication device.
A tablet...well, it's kinda redundant there.
A computer and a phone are viewed as needs by people.
A tablet is a straight up luxury item.
It's a tweener, and that's why its long term success is going to be about the same as the PDA.
Now, if you had a cheap tablet just for reading books, or an expensive, big tablet for streaming media, those replace two actual entertainment needs for a lot of people.
Those could work.
But the iPad is a tweener device.
It does a lot of things, but nothing really better than products already available.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Not really all that much.</title>
	<author>zullnero</author>
	<datestamp>1264790940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Android really doesn't do much for me.  It's kind of a kludgey OS in a lot of ways, and a lot of the Android hype is just hype.  It's open source, but it really feels sometimes like the UI was designed by schizophrenics.  It has more potential than iPhoneOS, I guess.  In any case, I love my MSI Wind netbook, so if the hardware really impresses me, I might give it a go just to have an Android device I can develop for (so I don't have to keep borrowing devices either from an employer, friend, or an emulator).  But for light daily use, productivity, gaming, ebook reading, or web browsing?  Probably not.  I'd probably buy one though if it ran a real Linux based OS like Palm's webOS which has better gesture support, a cleaner UI, and probably a better browser.  With the release of the PDK, the games are way better, too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Android really does n't do much for me .
It 's kind of a kludgey OS in a lot of ways , and a lot of the Android hype is just hype .
It 's open source , but it really feels sometimes like the UI was designed by schizophrenics .
It has more potential than iPhoneOS , I guess .
In any case , I love my MSI Wind netbook , so if the hardware really impresses me , I might give it a go just to have an Android device I can develop for ( so I do n't have to keep borrowing devices either from an employer , friend , or an emulator ) .
But for light daily use , productivity , gaming , ebook reading , or web browsing ?
Probably not .
I 'd probably buy one though if it ran a real Linux based OS like Palm 's webOS which has better gesture support , a cleaner UI , and probably a better browser .
With the release of the PDK , the games are way better , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Android really doesn't do much for me.
It's kind of a kludgey OS in a lot of ways, and a lot of the Android hype is just hype.
It's open source, but it really feels sometimes like the UI was designed by schizophrenics.
It has more potential than iPhoneOS, I guess.
In any case, I love my MSI Wind netbook, so if the hardware really impresses me, I might give it a go just to have an Android device I can develop for (so I don't have to keep borrowing devices either from an employer, friend, or an emulator).
But for light daily use, productivity, gaming, ebook reading, or web browsing?
Probably not.
I'd probably buy one though if it ran a real Linux based OS like Palm's webOS which has better gesture support, a cleaner UI, and probably a better browser.
With the release of the PDK, the games are way better, too.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Only if it has an IPS panel.</title>
	<author>Geert Jalink</author>
	<datestamp>1265365980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>First of all i hope they make sure there will be good screen protectors availlable.</p><p>I personally agree that In Plane Switching is one of the best display technologies.</p><p>In-plane switching was developed by Hitachi Ltd. in 1996 to improve on the poor viewing angle and the poor color reproduction of TN panels at that time.[4] Its name comes from the main difference from TN panels, that the crystal molecules move parallel to the panel plane instead of perpendicular to it. This change reduces the amount of light scattering in the matrix, which gives IPS its characteristic wide viewing angles and good color reproduction.[5]</p><p>Initial iterations of IPS technology were plagued with slow response time and a low contrast ratio but later evolutions have made marked improvements to these shortcomings. Because of its wide viewing angle and accurate color reproduction (with almost no off-angle color shift), IPS is widely employed in high-end monitors aimed at professional graphic artists, although with the recent fall in price it has been seen in the mainstream market as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all i hope they make sure there will be good screen protectors availlable.I personally agree that In Plane Switching is one of the best display technologies.In-plane switching was developed by Hitachi Ltd. in 1996 to improve on the poor viewing angle and the poor color reproduction of TN panels at that time .
[ 4 ] Its name comes from the main difference from TN panels , that the crystal molecules move parallel to the panel plane instead of perpendicular to it .
This change reduces the amount of light scattering in the matrix , which gives IPS its characteristic wide viewing angles and good color reproduction .
[ 5 ] Initial iterations of IPS technology were plagued with slow response time and a low contrast ratio but later evolutions have made marked improvements to these shortcomings .
Because of its wide viewing angle and accurate color reproduction ( with almost no off-angle color shift ) , IPS is widely employed in high-end monitors aimed at professional graphic artists , although with the recent fall in price it has been seen in the mainstream market as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all i hope they make sure there will be good screen protectors availlable.I personally agree that In Plane Switching is one of the best display technologies.In-plane switching was developed by Hitachi Ltd. in 1996 to improve on the poor viewing angle and the poor color reproduction of TN panels at that time.
[4] Its name comes from the main difference from TN panels, that the crystal molecules move parallel to the panel plane instead of perpendicular to it.
This change reduces the amount of light scattering in the matrix, which gives IPS its characteristic wide viewing angles and good color reproduction.
[5]Initial iterations of IPS technology were plagued with slow response time and a low contrast ratio but later evolutions have made marked improvements to these shortcomings.
Because of its wide viewing angle and accurate color reproduction (with almost no off-angle color shift), IPS is widely employed in high-end monitors aimed at professional graphic artists, although with the recent fall in price it has been seen in the mainstream market as well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30959660</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264789500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processor<br>128 MB of RAM (assumed like iPhone, not explicitly stated in specs) versus 1024 MB of RAM<br>16 GB of storage versus 160 GB of storage<br>No webcam versus a webcam<br>No keyboard versus a keyboard<br>No Flash veruss Flash<br>No multi-tasking versus multi-tasking<br>No Windows or Linux apps versus install whatever you want<br>$500 versus $300.</p><p>The iPad does have a touchscreen. Does that offset the $200 and all other disadvantages?</p></div><p>I don't think that's a fair comparison... What about battery life? What $300 netbook has a 10 hour battery life? Most $300 netbooks I've seen are lucky to see 3 hours. Also, the iPad screen is an IPS screen, which should offer better viewing angles. And while 16GB of storage is much smaller than 160GB, it's solid state which has advantages. Don't forget the iPad also has an accelerometer, all metal/glass construction, digital compass, bluetooth, ect... I understand and agree that a netbook is much better in certain situations and better suited for certain people. But the $200 higher price isn't just for a touch screen. It really all comes down to what the end users needs are, and which product meets those needs the best.</p></div>
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<tokenext>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processor128 MB of RAM ( assumed like iPhone , not explicitly stated in specs ) versus 1024 MB of RAM16 GB of storage versus 160 GB of storageNo webcam versus a webcamNo keyboard versus a keyboardNo Flash veruss FlashNo multi-tasking versus multi-taskingNo Windows or Linux apps versus install whatever you want $ 500 versus $ 300.The iPad does have a touchscreen .
Does that offset the $ 200 and all other disadvantages ? I do n't think that 's a fair comparison... What about battery life ?
What $ 300 netbook has a 10 hour battery life ?
Most $ 300 netbooks I 've seen are lucky to see 3 hours .
Also , the iPad screen is an IPS screen , which should offer better viewing angles .
And while 16GB of storage is much smaller than 160GB , it 's solid state which has advantages .
Do n't forget the iPad also has an accelerometer , all metal/glass construction , digital compass , bluetooth , ect... I understand and agree that a netbook is much better in certain situations and better suited for certain people .
But the $ 200 higher price is n't just for a touch screen .
It really all comes down to what the end users needs are , and which product meets those needs the best .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processor128 MB of RAM (assumed like iPhone, not explicitly stated in specs) versus 1024 MB of RAM16 GB of storage versus 160 GB of storageNo webcam versus a webcamNo keyboard versus a keyboardNo Flash veruss FlashNo multi-tasking versus multi-taskingNo Windows or Linux apps versus install whatever you want$500 versus $300.The iPad does have a touchscreen.
Does that offset the $200 and all other disadvantages?I don't think that's a fair comparison... What about battery life?
What $300 netbook has a 10 hour battery life?
Most $300 netbooks I've seen are lucky to see 3 hours.
Also, the iPad screen is an IPS screen, which should offer better viewing angles.
And while 16GB of storage is much smaller than 160GB, it's solid state which has advantages.
Don't forget the iPad also has an accelerometer, all metal/glass construction, digital compass, bluetooth, ect... I understand and agree that a netbook is much better in certain situations and better suited for certain people.
But the $200 higher price isn't just for a touch screen.
It really all comes down to what the end users needs are, and which product meets those needs the best.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953562</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264796760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would not consider a webcam sitting in my lap to be an advantage. A keyboard is a functional advantage, some of the time, but a form-factor disadvantage all of the time. Not just in the physical shape of the device, but in how you orient the device and how you might share the device. Flash is almost always a disadvantage, in terms of usability, security, and performance -- it overrides many of the features you use choose a web browser for, and single-handedly created the need for web browsers to have a separate process for Flash to crash in. Windows apps are not an advantage, Linux even less so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would not consider a webcam sitting in my lap to be an advantage .
A keyboard is a functional advantage , some of the time , but a form-factor disadvantage all of the time .
Not just in the physical shape of the device , but in how you orient the device and how you might share the device .
Flash is almost always a disadvantage , in terms of usability , security , and performance -- it overrides many of the features you use choose a web browser for , and single-handedly created the need for web browsers to have a separate process for Flash to crash in .
Windows apps are not an advantage , Linux even less so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would not consider a webcam sitting in my lap to be an advantage.
A keyboard is a functional advantage, some of the time, but a form-factor disadvantage all of the time.
Not just in the physical shape of the device, but in how you orient the device and how you might share the device.
Flash is almost always a disadvantage, in terms of usability, security, and performance -- it overrides many of the features you use choose a web browser for, and single-handedly created the need for web browsers to have a separate process for Flash to crash in.
Windows apps are not an advantage, Linux even less so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952102</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>delinear</author>
	<datestamp>1264790640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe you're right, I only know my closest experience to using a system like this was buying a pretty high powered iPaq back in 2004 and being immensely disappointed that it didn't work the way I wanted it to, and in fact worked pretty closely to how the iPad probably will. I don't see why they can't put their fisher price front-end on a standard OS back-end and at least give the users who want to do more the opportunity. I'd love to buy one of these if it did what I wanted it to, but my experience has been tainted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe you 're right , I only know my closest experience to using a system like this was buying a pretty high powered iPaq back in 2004 and being immensely disappointed that it did n't work the way I wanted it to , and in fact worked pretty closely to how the iPad probably will .
I do n't see why they ca n't put their fisher price front-end on a standard OS back-end and at least give the users who want to do more the opportunity .
I 'd love to buy one of these if it did what I wanted it to , but my experience has been tainted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe you're right, I only know my closest experience to using a system like this was buying a pretty high powered iPaq back in 2004 and being immensely disappointed that it didn't work the way I wanted it to, and in fact worked pretty closely to how the iPad probably will.
I don't see why they can't put their fisher price front-end on a standard OS back-end and at least give the users who want to do more the opportunity.
I'd love to buy one of these if it did what I wanted it to, but my experience has been tainted.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954080</id>
	<title>Um...</title>
	<author>rickb928</author>
	<datestamp>1264756080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"and Flash support in Android should be a given by launch time (though that isn't certain)."</p><p>Some day we will discover that Adobe hired away the best of the Duke Nukem Forever team.</p><p>And the best wasn't good enough.</p><p>Please stop with the rumors that Adobe will bring Flash to Android everywhere.  They might for the MSI pad, and some of the more endowed devices, but for most android devices Flash is a a cruel promise.  They can't make it work.  If they could, they would have already.  It's been long enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" and Flash support in Android should be a given by launch time ( though that is n't certain ) .
" Some day we will discover that Adobe hired away the best of the Duke Nukem Forever team.And the best was n't good enough.Please stop with the rumors that Adobe will bring Flash to Android everywhere .
They might for the MSI pad , and some of the more endowed devices , but for most android devices Flash is a a cruel promise .
They ca n't make it work .
If they could , they would have already .
It 's been long enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"and Flash support in Android should be a given by launch time (though that isn't certain).
"Some day we will discover that Adobe hired away the best of the Duke Nukem Forever team.And the best wasn't good enough.Please stop with the rumors that Adobe will bring Flash to Android everywhere.
They might for the MSI pad, and some of the more endowed devices, but for most android devices Flash is a a cruel promise.
They can't make it work.
If they could, they would have already.
It's been long enough.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953586</id>
	<title>Re:they don't get it</title>
	<author>RyuuzakiTetsuya</author>
	<datestamp>1264796880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The techie in me picked up an Apple because of the fact that it's a portable, UNIX certified machine with a bundled development environment that's got great support from the manufacturer with local repair locations in my home town and most major metropolitan areas.</p><p>That being said, a 3g/4g device with a Cradlepoint wifi bridge will mean 3g everywhere, 4g where i'm lucky, and an SSH terminal, games device, and a competent browser where ever I go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The techie in me picked up an Apple because of the fact that it 's a portable , UNIX certified machine with a bundled development environment that 's got great support from the manufacturer with local repair locations in my home town and most major metropolitan areas.That being said , a 3g/4g device with a Cradlepoint wifi bridge will mean 3g everywhere , 4g where i 'm lucky , and an SSH terminal , games device , and a competent browser where ever I go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The techie in me picked up an Apple because of the fact that it's a portable, UNIX certified machine with a bundled development environment that's got great support from the manufacturer with local repair locations in my home town and most major metropolitan areas.That being said, a 3g/4g device with a Cradlepoint wifi bridge will mean 3g everywhere, 4g where i'm lucky, and an SSH terminal, games device, and a competent browser where ever I go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951008</id>
	<title>Productivity</title>
	<author>iluvcapra</author>
	<datestamp>1264786980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are there good Word Processors/Spreadsheets/Presentation apps on android yet?  Seriously asking.  I'm a big Pages fan and am really happy to see they were able to put together an iPad version; and the single-record entry views in Numbers are one of those "duh" ideas that would probably be really useful.</p><p>Please don't post to tell me about google docs -- at the very least a "real" word processor should allow more than web core fonts, and should let you set line spacing, tab stops per paragraph, and use named styles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are there good Word Processors/Spreadsheets/Presentation apps on android yet ?
Seriously asking .
I 'm a big Pages fan and am really happy to see they were able to put together an iPad version ; and the single-record entry views in Numbers are one of those " duh " ideas that would probably be really useful.Please do n't post to tell me about google docs -- at the very least a " real " word processor should allow more than web core fonts , and should let you set line spacing , tab stops per paragraph , and use named styles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are there good Word Processors/Spreadsheets/Presentation apps on android yet?
Seriously asking.
I'm a big Pages fan and am really happy to see they were able to put together an iPad version; and the single-record entry views in Numbers are one of those "duh" ideas that would probably be really useful.Please don't post to tell me about google docs -- at the very least a "real" word processor should allow more than web core fonts, and should let you set line spacing, tab stops per paragraph, and use named styles.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950952</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264786740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Meanwhile, the geeks are running around blasting Apple products for all the things they "don't have" and recommending complex alternatives.</i></p><p>Wait, so multitasking is a "complex alternative"?  Please.</p><p>Yes, Apple's tablet is meant to be a computing appliance.  But ffs, no fucking user-level multitasking?  Christ, people bitched and complained about PalmOS and it's lack of multitasking, and now you're cheering it on like it's some kind of feature.  It's fucking baffling.</p><p>That and the fact that the iPad is a completely closed off system puts it off my list.  No, I don't believe a tablet must be a general purpose computer.  But I do believe that I should at least be able to install what I want on it from whatever source I like, and I should be able to run more than one fucking application at the same damn time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meanwhile , the geeks are running around blasting Apple products for all the things they " do n't have " and recommending complex alternatives.Wait , so multitasking is a " complex alternative " ?
Please.Yes , Apple 's tablet is meant to be a computing appliance .
But ffs , no fucking user-level multitasking ?
Christ , people bitched and complained about PalmOS and it 's lack of multitasking , and now you 're cheering it on like it 's some kind of feature .
It 's fucking baffling.That and the fact that the iPad is a completely closed off system puts it off my list .
No , I do n't believe a tablet must be a general purpose computer .
But I do believe that I should at least be able to install what I want on it from whatever source I like , and I should be able to run more than one fucking application at the same damn time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meanwhile, the geeks are running around blasting Apple products for all the things they "don't have" and recommending complex alternatives.Wait, so multitasking is a "complex alternative"?
Please.Yes, Apple's tablet is meant to be a computing appliance.
But ffs, no fucking user-level multitasking?
Christ, people bitched and complained about PalmOS and it's lack of multitasking, and now you're cheering it on like it's some kind of feature.
It's fucking baffling.That and the fact that the iPad is a completely closed off system puts it off my list.
No, I don't believe a tablet must be a general purpose computer.
But I do believe that I should at least be able to install what I want on it from whatever source I like, and I should be able to run more than one fucking application at the same damn time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954046</id>
	<title>Apples and Oranges</title>
	<author>slantyyz</author>
	<datestamp>1264755900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All this talk about the iPad not comparing well to other computing devices seems so pointless.</p><p>The iPad is sold as an appliance (in spite of having computerish guts) and all non-ereader tablets and laptops are sold as computers.</p><p>Seriously, if the iPad's limitations annoy you, it just means you need a real computer, not an appliance.</p><p>The iPad is more comparable to a TV with Internet, Music and Book channels than it is to a crippled laptop or "tablet PC".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All this talk about the iPad not comparing well to other computing devices seems so pointless.The iPad is sold as an appliance ( in spite of having computerish guts ) and all non-ereader tablets and laptops are sold as computers.Seriously , if the iPad 's limitations annoy you , it just means you need a real computer , not an appliance.The iPad is more comparable to a TV with Internet , Music and Book channels than it is to a crippled laptop or " tablet PC " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All this talk about the iPad not comparing well to other computing devices seems so pointless.The iPad is sold as an appliance (in spite of having computerish guts) and all non-ereader tablets and laptops are sold as computers.Seriously, if the iPad's limitations annoy you, it just means you need a real computer, not an appliance.The iPad is more comparable to a TV with Internet, Music and Book channels than it is to a crippled laptop or "tablet PC".</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264788840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Average handwriting speed is AT MOST half the average speed of typing. (assuming you didn't crawl out of a cave today)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Average handwriting speed is AT MOST half the average speed of typing .
( assuming you did n't crawl out of a cave today )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Average handwriting speed is AT MOST half the average speed of typing.
(assuming you didn't crawl out of a cave today)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951084</id>
	<title>Apple provides a good experience</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264787220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just keep seeing over and over again, with my own experience and through others, what a positive experience it is to use Apple products and what a hassle it is to use non-Apple products. So, I for one would not consider such a tablet; I'll stick with the iPad. If something goes wrong, I just pop into one of the many Apple stores and get hands on assistance with it. You can't do that with anyone else.</p><p>People dismissed the iPod and iPhone, when they first came out and then each time a competitor took a step ahead. Things like, where's the camera? Where's the video? Where's the radio tuner? And still today, where's the camera flash? Where's Adobe flash? Etc., etc. And yet, they sell extremely well, dominating their respective markets. Why? Because there's something about Apple's designs that taps into people emotionally. They're fun, they're endearing, they've got style. People like that, and people pay for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just keep seeing over and over again , with my own experience and through others , what a positive experience it is to use Apple products and what a hassle it is to use non-Apple products .
So , I for one would not consider such a tablet ; I 'll stick with the iPad .
If something goes wrong , I just pop into one of the many Apple stores and get hands on assistance with it .
You ca n't do that with anyone else.People dismissed the iPod and iPhone , when they first came out and then each time a competitor took a step ahead .
Things like , where 's the camera ?
Where 's the video ?
Where 's the radio tuner ?
And still today , where 's the camera flash ?
Where 's Adobe flash ?
Etc. , etc .
And yet , they sell extremely well , dominating their respective markets .
Why ? Because there 's something about Apple 's designs that taps into people emotionally .
They 're fun , they 're endearing , they 've got style .
People like that , and people pay for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just keep seeing over and over again, with my own experience and through others, what a positive experience it is to use Apple products and what a hassle it is to use non-Apple products.
So, I for one would not consider such a tablet; I'll stick with the iPad.
If something goes wrong, I just pop into one of the many Apple stores and get hands on assistance with it.
You can't do that with anyone else.People dismissed the iPod and iPhone, when they first came out and then each time a competitor took a step ahead.
Things like, where's the camera?
Where's the video?
Where's the radio tuner?
And still today, where's the camera flash?
Where's Adobe flash?
Etc., etc.
And yet, they sell extremely well, dominating their respective markets.
Why? Because there's something about Apple's designs that taps into people emotionally.
They're fun, they're endearing, they've got style.
People like that, and people pay for it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>two days and no MicroSoft announcement yet?</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1264789860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its rather traditional for them announce an "imminent" clone whenever a competitor announces a major product.  Of course, no one listens anymore.
<br> <br>
More seriously, the rumor mill about the two-screen Courier looks interesting.  That device would seem to be portable than an iPad.
<br>
A long time ago MS got into the pen-computing bubble, an industry which went nowhere.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its rather traditional for them announce an " imminent " clone whenever a competitor announces a major product .
Of course , no one listens anymore .
More seriously , the rumor mill about the two-screen Courier looks interesting .
That device would seem to be portable than an iPad .
A long time ago MS got into the pen-computing bubble , an industry which went nowhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its rather traditional for them announce an "imminent" clone whenever a competitor announces a major product.
Of course, no one listens anymore.
More seriously, the rumor mill about the two-screen Courier looks interesting.
That device would seem to be portable than an iPad.
A long time ago MS got into the pen-computing bubble, an industry which went nowhere.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950886</id>
	<title>Asking the wrong question</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1264786440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or, actually, the post asks the right question in the wrong place.</p><p>The question is not what'd be popular on Slashdot - we're not representative of the wider population by almost any stretch of the imagination. Of <i>course</i> Slashdotters want multitasking, want to be able to install ssh, want the option to run their own web server on the thing. Slashdotters will want the darn tablet to support FLAC and Ogg Vorbis/Theora.</p><p>But the things that'd make this really popular with Slashdotters are not the same things that'll make a tablet a commercial success. It's pretty obvious the majority of people don't care about multitasking (as long as they can listen to their tunes while they do other things - which is true of the iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, and most any other device), nor about Apple's "walled garden". What they <i>do</i> care about is the availability of the apps they want and that the features the tablet offers are easy to use and work well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , actually , the post asks the right question in the wrong place.The question is not what 'd be popular on Slashdot - we 're not representative of the wider population by almost any stretch of the imagination .
Of course Slashdotters want multitasking , want to be able to install ssh , want the option to run their own web server on the thing .
Slashdotters will want the darn tablet to support FLAC and Ogg Vorbis/Theora.But the things that 'd make this really popular with Slashdotters are not the same things that 'll make a tablet a commercial success .
It 's pretty obvious the majority of people do n't care about multitasking ( as long as they can listen to their tunes while they do other things - which is true of the iPod Touch , iPhone , iPad , and most any other device ) , nor about Apple 's " walled garden " .
What they do care about is the availability of the apps they want and that the features the tablet offers are easy to use and work well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, actually, the post asks the right question in the wrong place.The question is not what'd be popular on Slashdot - we're not representative of the wider population by almost any stretch of the imagination.
Of course Slashdotters want multitasking, want to be able to install ssh, want the option to run their own web server on the thing.
Slashdotters will want the darn tablet to support FLAC and Ogg Vorbis/Theora.But the things that'd make this really popular with Slashdotters are not the same things that'll make a tablet a commercial success.
It's pretty obvious the majority of people don't care about multitasking (as long as they can listen to their tunes while they do other things - which is true of the iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, and most any other device), nor about Apple's "walled garden".
What they do care about is the availability of the apps they want and that the features the tablet offers are easy to use and work well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30967798</id>
	<title>Not the right price point</title>
	<author>ALeader71</author>
	<datestamp>1264868640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Acer and MSI can't beat Apple's price point, and I doubt they can, Apple will be the top seller in this non e-book category.  As for DRM e-books, I don't thing you can get away from it.</p><p>No multi-touch on yet another Android device?  What gives?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Acer and MSI ca n't beat Apple 's price point , and I doubt they can , Apple will be the top seller in this non e-book category .
As for DRM e-books , I do n't thing you can get away from it.No multi-touch on yet another Android device ?
What gives ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Acer and MSI can't beat Apple's price point, and I doubt they can, Apple will be the top seller in this non e-book category.
As for DRM e-books, I don't thing you can get away from it.No multi-touch on yet another Android device?
What gives?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952720</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264792980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>And you think it's going to be easier with a tablet using an on-screen keyboard with no tactile feedback?  I just don't see it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And you think it 's going to be easier with a tablet using an on-screen keyboard with no tactile feedback ?
I just do n't see it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And you think it's going to be easier with a tablet using an on-screen keyboard with no tactile feedback?
I just don't see it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950904</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>stoolpigeon</author>
	<datestamp>1264786560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought my Acer for travel, as I got tired of lugging my 6 pound Latitude around.  And my main laptop is too big to use on an aircraft.  The Aspire is a great little machine for the road and would probably even make a decent little home entertainment box, it has hdmi out.  But I don't use it at home or work.  That's why I don't get the tablet thing.  I've yet to see an app that makes me think, "Oh- I have to have that, it is so much better than using a mouse/keyboard/trackpad/etc."<br>
&nbsp; <br>When I'm at home watching Hulu or Netflix I'm using my television or my laptop with a large screen.  I'm not watching movies on a 10/11 inch screen unless I'm traveling.  Reading on an lcd is reading on an lcd.  It doesn't bother me and I read a lot of books on my laptop but I don't need a special device for that.  If I'm going to go with something smaller, my phone is fine and more convenient.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Maybe I'm a weird edge case, but I check out tablets every so often to see if things have changed and every time I'm under no compulsion to get one.  The new announcements of this last few months, including the ipad do nothing to change that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought my Acer for travel , as I got tired of lugging my 6 pound Latitude around .
And my main laptop is too big to use on an aircraft .
The Aspire is a great little machine for the road and would probably even make a decent little home entertainment box , it has hdmi out .
But I do n't use it at home or work .
That 's why I do n't get the tablet thing .
I 've yet to see an app that makes me think , " Oh- I have to have that , it is so much better than using a mouse/keyboard/trackpad/etc .
"   When I 'm at home watching Hulu or Netflix I 'm using my television or my laptop with a large screen .
I 'm not watching movies on a 10/11 inch screen unless I 'm traveling .
Reading on an lcd is reading on an lcd .
It does n't bother me and I read a lot of books on my laptop but I do n't need a special device for that .
If I 'm going to go with something smaller , my phone is fine and more convenient .
  Maybe I 'm a weird edge case , but I check out tablets every so often to see if things have changed and every time I 'm under no compulsion to get one .
The new announcements of this last few months , including the ipad do nothing to change that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought my Acer for travel, as I got tired of lugging my 6 pound Latitude around.
And my main laptop is too big to use on an aircraft.
The Aspire is a great little machine for the road and would probably even make a decent little home entertainment box, it has hdmi out.
But I don't use it at home or work.
That's why I don't get the tablet thing.
I've yet to see an app that makes me think, "Oh- I have to have that, it is so much better than using a mouse/keyboard/trackpad/etc.
"
  When I'm at home watching Hulu or Netflix I'm using my television or my laptop with a large screen.
I'm not watching movies on a 10/11 inch screen unless I'm traveling.
Reading on an lcd is reading on an lcd.
It doesn't bother me and I read a lot of books on my laptop but I don't need a special device for that.
If I'm going to go with something smaller, my phone is fine and more convenient.
  Maybe I'm a weird edge case, but I check out tablets every so often to see if things have changed and every time I'm under no compulsion to get one.
The new announcements of this last few months, including the ipad do nothing to change that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953736</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>Al Dimond</author>
	<datestamp>1264797600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Decent handwriting recognition? Surely you jest. Handwriting is inherently slower than typing and less accurate.</p><p>I've browsed the web on a Palm Pilot quite a lot; the stylus is similar to a touch interface, although Palm didn't take advantage of the gestural capabilities. It's not bad for browsing and reading. If you have to enter anything it's a horrible pain, no matter what input method you use.</p><p>Maybe a system where gestures stood in for common words and letter combinations could be successful. Maybe everyone will learn shorthand again. We'd all have to re-train ourselves to "write" with the tips of our fingers (unless you want to bring back the stylus). It seems like that would be more fatiguing than typing, still, if you had to do it for a significant length of time. And if you're not going to use it much why spend the money?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Decent handwriting recognition ?
Surely you jest .
Handwriting is inherently slower than typing and less accurate.I 've browsed the web on a Palm Pilot quite a lot ; the stylus is similar to a touch interface , although Palm did n't take advantage of the gestural capabilities .
It 's not bad for browsing and reading .
If you have to enter anything it 's a horrible pain , no matter what input method you use.Maybe a system where gestures stood in for common words and letter combinations could be successful .
Maybe everyone will learn shorthand again .
We 'd all have to re-train ourselves to " write " with the tips of our fingers ( unless you want to bring back the stylus ) .
It seems like that would be more fatiguing than typing , still , if you had to do it for a significant length of time .
And if you 're not going to use it much why spend the money ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Decent handwriting recognition?
Surely you jest.
Handwriting is inherently slower than typing and less accurate.I've browsed the web on a Palm Pilot quite a lot; the stylus is similar to a touch interface, although Palm didn't take advantage of the gestural capabilities.
It's not bad for browsing and reading.
If you have to enter anything it's a horrible pain, no matter what input method you use.Maybe a system where gestures stood in for common words and letter combinations could be successful.
Maybe everyone will learn shorthand again.
We'd all have to re-train ourselves to "write" with the tips of our fingers (unless you want to bring back the stylus).
It seems like that would be more fatiguing than typing, still, if you had to do it for a significant length of time.
And if you're not going to use it much why spend the money?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951974</id>
	<title>MSI customer service is TERRIBLE</title>
	<author>Theovon</author>
	<datestamp>1264790160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought a high-end motherboard from MSI for almost $400.  When I found a problem with one of their memory slots, I discovered just how terrible their customer service is.</p><p>The problem is that this model of board, MSI X48 Platinum, has a design flaw with its #2 memory slot.  I tried memory from OCZ (who also has terrible customer service), Kingston (great customer service), and Crucial (fantastic customer service).  All worked in slots 1, 3, and 4, but only the Crucial would work in slot 2, and only after I raised the supply voltage.</p><p>Whenever I could call for tech support, I would ALWAYS get a voice mail.  There's like one guy working there.  They usually would not return my calls.  They had ONE other board of the same model in stock, which was WORSE and looked like it too had been a return.</p><p>So here's my take on all this.  I will NEVER buy anything again from MSI.  On the other hand, I have had a GREAT customer experience with Apple.  Apples are NOT perfect.  My wife and I have had problems with our notebook computers (although the iPods, iPhones, iMac, and AEBS have been flawless), but when you buy that AppleCare extended warranty, they REALLY take care of you.  I don't care what kind of extended warranty MSI will offer.  They're not going to give you good customer service.</p><p>Here's the story with my MacBook Pro.  Read it how you like.  I got it in January of 2007.  A few months into owning it, I started having random wireless disconnects.  Apple sent me a box to FedEx it, and the machine was out of my hands for maybe 36 hours.  Other than that, the only problem was the issue with overheating that they all have.  At the time, I didn't know about programs that will boost your fan speed.  So I was using it to do SSE-heavy scientific computing for like 2 weeks straight in late 2007.  I started noticing after that that after waking from suspend to RAM, there would be instability, like the memory had been corrupted.  Apple and Crucial were happy to replace the RAMs, which fixed that problem.  But then, it started ruining batteries.  (I'm not on my 6th, and without AppleCare, they would have cost $113 each.)  Instead of a graceful decline in capacity, they would suddenly lose power, shutting the machine down without warning.  Every time a battery would get ruined, they would dutifully replace it for free and also suggest another way to try to narrow down the problem.  Recently (Dec 2009, Jan 2010, when the thing is 3 years old), I started also experiencing kernel panics and other weird hangups.  10 days before my AppleCare is out, I get two panics within an hour, so I call them up.  They send me a box the next day.  When I get it back about 48 hours later, I find that they had replaced both the main board and the battery.  And also, there had been a bit of floppiness in the hinge for the screen, which I didn't bother mentioning to them.  They fixed that too.  Now I have an extra 90 days on the warranty (at least for what they fixed anyhow), and it's in better shape than it's been in in a long time.</p><p>I like MacOS.  Especially because it's UNIX.  A lot of things "just work", but not everything, and at least the notebooks have some reliability problems.  And the AppleCare cost like 10\% on top of the base price.  Although friends of mine haven't had as many problems.  But when you do have the AppleCare, the customer service you get beats the hell out of what I've experienced from any other PC maker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought a high-end motherboard from MSI for almost $ 400 .
When I found a problem with one of their memory slots , I discovered just how terrible their customer service is.The problem is that this model of board , MSI X48 Platinum , has a design flaw with its # 2 memory slot .
I tried memory from OCZ ( who also has terrible customer service ) , Kingston ( great customer service ) , and Crucial ( fantastic customer service ) .
All worked in slots 1 , 3 , and 4 , but only the Crucial would work in slot 2 , and only after I raised the supply voltage.Whenever I could call for tech support , I would ALWAYS get a voice mail .
There 's like one guy working there .
They usually would not return my calls .
They had ONE other board of the same model in stock , which was WORSE and looked like it too had been a return.So here 's my take on all this .
I will NEVER buy anything again from MSI .
On the other hand , I have had a GREAT customer experience with Apple .
Apples are NOT perfect .
My wife and I have had problems with our notebook computers ( although the iPods , iPhones , iMac , and AEBS have been flawless ) , but when you buy that AppleCare extended warranty , they REALLY take care of you .
I do n't care what kind of extended warranty MSI will offer .
They 're not going to give you good customer service.Here 's the story with my MacBook Pro .
Read it how you like .
I got it in January of 2007 .
A few months into owning it , I started having random wireless disconnects .
Apple sent me a box to FedEx it , and the machine was out of my hands for maybe 36 hours .
Other than that , the only problem was the issue with overheating that they all have .
At the time , I did n't know about programs that will boost your fan speed .
So I was using it to do SSE-heavy scientific computing for like 2 weeks straight in late 2007 .
I started noticing after that that after waking from suspend to RAM , there would be instability , like the memory had been corrupted .
Apple and Crucial were happy to replace the RAMs , which fixed that problem .
But then , it started ruining batteries .
( I 'm not on my 6th , and without AppleCare , they would have cost $ 113 each .
) Instead of a graceful decline in capacity , they would suddenly lose power , shutting the machine down without warning .
Every time a battery would get ruined , they would dutifully replace it for free and also suggest another way to try to narrow down the problem .
Recently ( Dec 2009 , Jan 2010 , when the thing is 3 years old ) , I started also experiencing kernel panics and other weird hangups .
10 days before my AppleCare is out , I get two panics within an hour , so I call them up .
They send me a box the next day .
When I get it back about 48 hours later , I find that they had replaced both the main board and the battery .
And also , there had been a bit of floppiness in the hinge for the screen , which I did n't bother mentioning to them .
They fixed that too .
Now I have an extra 90 days on the warranty ( at least for what they fixed anyhow ) , and it 's in better shape than it 's been in in a long time.I like MacOS .
Especially because it 's UNIX .
A lot of things " just work " , but not everything , and at least the notebooks have some reliability problems .
And the AppleCare cost like 10 \ % on top of the base price .
Although friends of mine have n't had as many problems .
But when you do have the AppleCare , the customer service you get beats the hell out of what I 've experienced from any other PC maker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought a high-end motherboard from MSI for almost $400.
When I found a problem with one of their memory slots, I discovered just how terrible their customer service is.The problem is that this model of board, MSI X48 Platinum, has a design flaw with its #2 memory slot.
I tried memory from OCZ (who also has terrible customer service), Kingston (great customer service), and Crucial (fantastic customer service).
All worked in slots 1, 3, and 4, but only the Crucial would work in slot 2, and only after I raised the supply voltage.Whenever I could call for tech support, I would ALWAYS get a voice mail.
There's like one guy working there.
They usually would not return my calls.
They had ONE other board of the same model in stock, which was WORSE and looked like it too had been a return.So here's my take on all this.
I will NEVER buy anything again from MSI.
On the other hand, I have had a GREAT customer experience with Apple.
Apples are NOT perfect.
My wife and I have had problems with our notebook computers (although the iPods, iPhones, iMac, and AEBS have been flawless), but when you buy that AppleCare extended warranty, they REALLY take care of you.
I don't care what kind of extended warranty MSI will offer.
They're not going to give you good customer service.Here's the story with my MacBook Pro.
Read it how you like.
I got it in January of 2007.
A few months into owning it, I started having random wireless disconnects.
Apple sent me a box to FedEx it, and the machine was out of my hands for maybe 36 hours.
Other than that, the only problem was the issue with overheating that they all have.
At the time, I didn't know about programs that will boost your fan speed.
So I was using it to do SSE-heavy scientific computing for like 2 weeks straight in late 2007.
I started noticing after that that after waking from suspend to RAM, there would be instability, like the memory had been corrupted.
Apple and Crucial were happy to replace the RAMs, which fixed that problem.
But then, it started ruining batteries.
(I'm not on my 6th, and without AppleCare, they would have cost $113 each.
)  Instead of a graceful decline in capacity, they would suddenly lose power, shutting the machine down without warning.
Every time a battery would get ruined, they would dutifully replace it for free and also suggest another way to try to narrow down the problem.
Recently (Dec 2009, Jan 2010, when the thing is 3 years old), I started also experiencing kernel panics and other weird hangups.
10 days before my AppleCare is out, I get two panics within an hour, so I call them up.
They send me a box the next day.
When I get it back about 48 hours later, I find that they had replaced both the main board and the battery.
And also, there had been a bit of floppiness in the hinge for the screen, which I didn't bother mentioning to them.
They fixed that too.
Now I have an extra 90 days on the warranty (at least for what they fixed anyhow), and it's in better shape than it's been in in a long time.I like MacOS.
Especially because it's UNIX.
A lot of things "just work", but not everything, and at least the notebooks have some reliability problems.
And the AppleCare cost like 10\% on top of the base price.
Although friends of mine haven't had as many problems.
But when you do have the AppleCare, the customer service you get beats the hell out of what I've experienced from any other PC maker.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950996</id>
	<title>It still won't let me do my job</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264786920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
I love the idea of these kinds of devices.  I could definitely see myself having breakfast and reading the newspaper on one of these things.  It'd also be nice for taking freeform notes.

However, at the end of the day I really need even a basic computing device running something that will let me get my job done.  Namely:

* I need to be able to read my corporate email.  From an Exchange server.  Preferably using Outlook.
* That probably means I need a VPN client.  Even if I don't need a VPN client for Outlook, there's a few other reasons it would be nice to have; not the least of which is just to be able to get to that corporate Intranet server.
* I want to be able to open and do a quick change on a spreadsheet or document.

In other words, everything that I can do on my netbook, I want to do on a little tablet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the idea of these kinds of devices .
I could definitely see myself having breakfast and reading the newspaper on one of these things .
It 'd also be nice for taking freeform notes .
However , at the end of the day I really need even a basic computing device running something that will let me get my job done .
Namely : * I need to be able to read my corporate email .
From an Exchange server .
Preferably using Outlook .
* That probably means I need a VPN client .
Even if I do n't need a VPN client for Outlook , there 's a few other reasons it would be nice to have ; not the least of which is just to be able to get to that corporate Intranet server .
* I want to be able to open and do a quick change on a spreadsheet or document .
In other words , everything that I can do on my netbook , I want to do on a little tablet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I love the idea of these kinds of devices.
I could definitely see myself having breakfast and reading the newspaper on one of these things.
It'd also be nice for taking freeform notes.
However, at the end of the day I really need even a basic computing device running something that will let me get my job done.
Namely:

* I need to be able to read my corporate email.
From an Exchange server.
Preferably using Outlook.
* That probably means I need a VPN client.
Even if I don't need a VPN client for Outlook, there's a few other reasons it would be nice to have; not the least of which is just to be able to get to that corporate Intranet server.
* I want to be able to open and do a quick change on a spreadsheet or document.
In other words, everything that I can do on my netbook, I want to do on a little tablet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950928</id>
	<title>Hmm.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264786620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A tablet might be nifty. I will get one when they have either an sd card slot or a little compartment to put an USB stick in. I want to be able to work with the music/video/text/whatever files that are on the removable media, no 'importing' crap.<br>And if i have wifi and a browser, i need enough flash support to watch Weebl and Bob.</p><p>And for blimey's sake, make the screen scratch resistant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A tablet might be nifty .
I will get one when they have either an sd card slot or a little compartment to put an USB stick in .
I want to be able to work with the music/video/text/whatever files that are on the removable media , no 'importing ' crap.And if i have wifi and a browser , i need enough flash support to watch Weebl and Bob.And for blimey 's sake , make the screen scratch resistant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A tablet might be nifty.
I will get one when they have either an sd card slot or a little compartment to put an USB stick in.
I want to be able to work with the music/video/text/whatever files that are on the removable media, no 'importing' crap.And if i have wifi and a browser, i need enough flash support to watch Weebl and Bob.And for blimey's sake, make the screen scratch resistant.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951090</id>
	<title>Both need better market focus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264787220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm content with my own personal technology, but I am invested in some of these companies, so I look at it from that standpoint.<br> <br>I see the big problem with both the MSI tablet and the iPad is that both are trying to be everything to everyone.  Instead of showing how great the games or "Brushes" or the eBook reader are on the iPad for 30\%+ of the launch event, I would have liked to have seen how Apple plans to expand into markets that have been relatively closed to them in the past.<br> <br>Medicine: the iPad is uniquely suited to allow doctors and nurse practitioners to bring x-rays, CT scans, patient records, and more into the room with them - a laptop is too big and bulky, an iPhone / iPod touch too small.  Show off an app that allows this to interface with a server in the office to store medical records on the fly, and I think they might have gotten the attention of physicians and hospitals.<br> <br>Manufacturing: Great for live project / inventory status updating on the assembly line, at delivery point, etc.<br> <br>Construction: Ruggedize and show how great it works as a tool for schematics, supply chain management, etc.<br> <br>Instead, Apple is targeting this at the wealthy who need a new toy to fit somewhere between their Macbook and their iPhone on the spectrum of personal technology.  I think that's why the iPad will fail - and MSI's solution will too, unless they partner in advance with companies that develop software actually used in service-related industries and focus on selling to a different crowd than the typical iPhone / Macbook owning home user.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm content with my own personal technology , but I am invested in some of these companies , so I look at it from that standpoint .
I see the big problem with both the MSI tablet and the iPad is that both are trying to be everything to everyone .
Instead of showing how great the games or " Brushes " or the eBook reader are on the iPad for 30 \ % + of the launch event , I would have liked to have seen how Apple plans to expand into markets that have been relatively closed to them in the past .
Medicine : the iPad is uniquely suited to allow doctors and nurse practitioners to bring x-rays , CT scans , patient records , and more into the room with them - a laptop is too big and bulky , an iPhone / iPod touch too small .
Show off an app that allows this to interface with a server in the office to store medical records on the fly , and I think they might have gotten the attention of physicians and hospitals .
Manufacturing : Great for live project / inventory status updating on the assembly line , at delivery point , etc .
Construction : Ruggedize and show how great it works as a tool for schematics , supply chain management , etc .
Instead , Apple is targeting this at the wealthy who need a new toy to fit somewhere between their Macbook and their iPhone on the spectrum of personal technology .
I think that 's why the iPad will fail - and MSI 's solution will too , unless they partner in advance with companies that develop software actually used in service-related industries and focus on selling to a different crowd than the typical iPhone / Macbook owning home user .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm content with my own personal technology, but I am invested in some of these companies, so I look at it from that standpoint.
I see the big problem with both the MSI tablet and the iPad is that both are trying to be everything to everyone.
Instead of showing how great the games or "Brushes" or the eBook reader are on the iPad for 30\%+ of the launch event, I would have liked to have seen how Apple plans to expand into markets that have been relatively closed to them in the past.
Medicine: the iPad is uniquely suited to allow doctors and nurse practitioners to bring x-rays, CT scans, patient records, and more into the room with them - a laptop is too big and bulky, an iPhone / iPod touch too small.
Show off an app that allows this to interface with a server in the office to store medical records on the fly, and I think they might have gotten the attention of physicians and hospitals.
Manufacturing: Great for live project / inventory status updating on the assembly line, at delivery point, etc.
Construction: Ruggedize and show how great it works as a tool for schematics, supply chain management, etc.
Instead, Apple is targeting this at the wealthy who need a new toy to fit somewhere between their Macbook and their iPhone on the spectrum of personal technology.
I think that's why the iPad will fail - and MSI's solution will too, unless they partner in advance with companies that develop software actually used in service-related industries and focus on selling to a different crowd than the typical iPhone / Macbook owning home user.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951124</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264787400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Touch interfaces are nice. And multi touch is nicer."</p><p>Can't you get that these are "nice to haves" rather than essentials? Most people don't think like that. If the did, then it would be the other way around with most things, e.g. 90\% of them would have Macs instead of PCs...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Touch interfaces are nice .
And multi touch is nicer .
" Ca n't you get that these are " nice to haves " rather than essentials ?
Most people do n't think like that .
If the did , then it would be the other way around with most things , e.g .
90 \ % of them would have Macs instead of PCs.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Touch interfaces are nice.
And multi touch is nicer.
"Can't you get that these are "nice to haves" rather than essentials?
Most people don't think like that.
If the did, then it would be the other way around with most things, e.g.
90\% of them would have Macs instead of PCs...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951262</id>
	<title>Re:It still won't let me do my job</title>
	<author>silentjay</author>
	<datestamp>1264787820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>iphone/ipad/osx all have cisco/pptp/l2tp vpn and exchange connectivity as standard.......</htmltext>
<tokenext>iphone/ipad/osx all have cisco/pptp/l2tp vpn and exchange connectivity as standard...... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iphone/ipad/osx all have cisco/pptp/l2tp vpn and exchange connectivity as standard.......</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954786</id>
	<title>Active Digitizer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264758780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If someone would release a 10" tablet with an active digitizer, a decent notetaking program, a decent graphics program, multi-tasking, wifi and 3G for about $500, I could only imagine the amount of Engineering and Art students that would jizz their pants.</p><p>All I want is a glorified notepad, something to take with me to lectures and tutorials, I can have my lecture screens on my tablet, I can scribble, I can check my mail between/during classes and I can use it anywhere.  Netbooks don't suit this, smart phones are too small, tabletPC's are too expensive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If someone would release a 10 " tablet with an active digitizer , a decent notetaking program , a decent graphics program , multi-tasking , wifi and 3G for about $ 500 , I could only imagine the amount of Engineering and Art students that would jizz their pants.All I want is a glorified notepad , something to take with me to lectures and tutorials , I can have my lecture screens on my tablet , I can scribble , I can check my mail between/during classes and I can use it anywhere .
Netbooks do n't suit this , smart phones are too small , tabletPC 's are too expensive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If someone would release a 10" tablet with an active digitizer, a decent notetaking program, a decent graphics program, multi-tasking, wifi and 3G for about $500, I could only imagine the amount of Engineering and Art students that would jizz their pants.All I want is a glorified notepad, something to take with me to lectures and tutorials, I can have my lecture screens on my tablet, I can scribble, I can check my mail between/during classes and I can use it anywhere.
Netbooks don't suit this, smart phones are too small, tabletPC's are too expensive.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951306</id>
	<title>Apple fanboys will respond with...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264788000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"You don't really want to buy *cheap* PC hardware, do you?"</p><p>This device sounds fairly interesting, but I would rather have the openpandora. Portability is my goal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" You do n't really want to buy * cheap * PC hardware , do you ?
" This device sounds fairly interesting , but I would rather have the openpandora .
Portability is my goal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"You don't really want to buy *cheap* PC hardware, do you?
"This device sounds fairly interesting, but I would rather have the openpandora.
Portability is my goal.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953994</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Spatial</author>
	<datestamp>1264755720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processor</p></div><p>Comparing processors by clock frequently is meaningless.  Different architectures do differing amounts of work each cycle.<br> <br>

It's like evaluating the speed of a runner by how many paces he takes each second.  One guy may be a dwarf and the other a giant.  Not taking into account the length of their pace means you incorrectly choose the dwarf.  So it is with CPUs.</p></div>
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<tokenext>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processorComparing processors by clock frequently is meaningless .
Different architectures do differing amounts of work each cycle .
It 's like evaluating the speed of a runner by how many paces he takes each second .
One guy may be a dwarf and the other a giant .
Not taking into account the length of their pace means you incorrectly choose the dwarf .
So it is with CPUs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.0 Ghz processor versus 1.66 Ghz processorComparing processors by clock frequently is meaningless.
Different architectures do differing amounts of work each cycle.
It's like evaluating the speed of a runner by how many paces he takes each second.
One guy may be a dwarf and the other a giant.
Not taking into account the length of their pace means you incorrectly choose the dwarf.
So it is with CPUs.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952444</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1264791900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Touch interfaces are nice. And multi touch is nicer.</p></div></blockquote><p>Touch interfaces are nice for brief and/or simple interactions, sure; for long term use, typing, and lots of other things they are (IME and IMO, of course) much worse than keyboard and mouse, even with an undersized netbook keyboard and trackpad or really-small mouse.</p><p>I'd much rather take notes, for instance, on a netbook than a scaled-up iPhone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Touch interfaces are nice .
And multi touch is nicer.Touch interfaces are nice for brief and/or simple interactions , sure ; for long term use , typing , and lots of other things they are ( IME and IMO , of course ) much worse than keyboard and mouse , even with an undersized netbook keyboard and trackpad or really-small mouse.I 'd much rather take notes , for instance , on a netbook than a scaled-up iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Touch interfaces are nice.
And multi touch is nicer.Touch interfaces are nice for brief and/or simple interactions, sure; for long term use, typing, and lots of other things they are (IME and IMO, of course) much worse than keyboard and mouse, even with an undersized netbook keyboard and trackpad or really-small mouse.I'd much rather take notes, for instance, on a netbook than a scaled-up iPhone.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952660</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264792680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if you really want the touchscreen in your netbook, you can have that too for $500.00.</p><p>It's called the EEE-PC T-91, and I love mine.  It has:</p><p>A 9" touchscreen (you can fold the keyboard under the screen and use it like a tablet)</p><p>Windows XP (and consequently the ability to install any program that runs on Windows)</p><p>16 GB flash memory + 2 SDHC card slots (mine came with an extra 16 GB SDHC card, which I use like a second hard drive) + 2 USB slots for expansion</p><p>A netbook-sized keyboard</p><p>A webcam</p><p>All for the same price as the advertised tablet.</p><p>Tell me again why I should pay the same price for a crippled device with no keyboard and can only run a few programs?  I'd pay maybe $50.00 for one of these toys.</p><p>I will laugh at every single person who buys an iPad or an MSI tablet at the $500.00 price they're asking.  Every single one of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you really want the touchscreen in your netbook , you can have that too for $ 500.00.It 's called the EEE-PC T-91 , and I love mine .
It has : A 9 " touchscreen ( you can fold the keyboard under the screen and use it like a tablet ) Windows XP ( and consequently the ability to install any program that runs on Windows ) 16 GB flash memory + 2 SDHC card slots ( mine came with an extra 16 GB SDHC card , which I use like a second hard drive ) + 2 USB slots for expansionA netbook-sized keyboardA webcamAll for the same price as the advertised tablet.Tell me again why I should pay the same price for a crippled device with no keyboard and can only run a few programs ?
I 'd pay maybe $ 50.00 for one of these toys.I will laugh at every single person who buys an iPad or an MSI tablet at the $ 500.00 price they 're asking .
Every single one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you really want the touchscreen in your netbook, you can have that too for $500.00.It's called the EEE-PC T-91, and I love mine.
It has:A 9" touchscreen (you can fold the keyboard under the screen and use it like a tablet)Windows XP (and consequently the ability to install any program that runs on Windows)16 GB flash memory + 2 SDHC card slots (mine came with an extra 16 GB SDHC card, which I use like a second hard drive) + 2 USB slots for expansionA netbook-sized keyboardA webcamAll for the same price as the advertised tablet.Tell me again why I should pay the same price for a crippled device with no keyboard and can only run a few programs?
I'd pay maybe $50.00 for one of these toys.I will laugh at every single person who buys an iPad or an MSI tablet at the $500.00 price they're asking.
Every single one of them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952094</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1264790580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I've yet to see an app that makes me think, "Oh- I have to have that, it is so much better than using a mouse/keyboard/trackpad/etc."</p><p>Microsoft One-Note.  It's the killer tablet app.</p><p>Than and a program to let you pen markup PDF files. I have switched to only carrying a tablet into meetings because of those two apps.  Plus I added a nice little microphone <a href="http://www.sourcingmap.com/mini-small-mic-microphone-for-laptop-line-chat-p-29294.html" title="sourcingmap.com">http://www.sourcingmap.com/mini-small-mic-microphone-for-laptop-line-chat-p-29294.html</a> [sourcingmap.com] to the mic in plug and record the meeting audio as I sit there.</p><p>You cant look at a tablet as a pc or a laptop replacement.  it's a limited use tool, leverage it's advantages and you really see what it's good at.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 've yet to see an app that makes me think , " Oh- I have to have that , it is so much better than using a mouse/keyboard/trackpad/etc .
" Microsoft One-Note .
It 's the killer tablet app.Than and a program to let you pen markup PDF files .
I have switched to only carrying a tablet into meetings because of those two apps .
Plus I added a nice little microphone http : //www.sourcingmap.com/mini-small-mic-microphone-for-laptop-line-chat-p-29294.html [ sourcingmap.com ] to the mic in plug and record the meeting audio as I sit there.You cant look at a tablet as a pc or a laptop replacement .
it 's a limited use tool , leverage it 's advantages and you really see what it 's good at .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I've yet to see an app that makes me think, "Oh- I have to have that, it is so much better than using a mouse/keyboard/trackpad/etc.
"Microsoft One-Note.
It's the killer tablet app.Than and a program to let you pen markup PDF files.
I have switched to only carrying a tablet into meetings because of those two apps.
Plus I added a nice little microphone http://www.sourcingmap.com/mini-small-mic-microphone-for-laptop-line-chat-p-29294.html [sourcingmap.com] to the mic in plug and record the meeting audio as I sit there.You cant look at a tablet as a pc or a laptop replacement.
it's a limited use tool, leverage it's advantages and you really see what it's good at.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30958878</id>
	<title>Re:Only if it has an IPS panel.</title>
	<author>node 3</author>
	<datestamp>1264781460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>An IPS panel is certainly neat, but as you can't really use the ipad for anything that actually demands that kind of screen</p></div><p>You mean like viewing photos and showing it to people who may not be standing directly in front of it? Because the primary benefits of IPS are better color, and greater viewing angle.</p><p>Of course, it's not just photos which will benefit. Video, web, and pretty much anything you will see on the screen (and given that you're presumably going to be looking at the screen while you use it, that's pretty much everything) will benefit.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>An IPS panel is certainly neat , but as you ca n't really use the ipad for anything that actually demands that kind of screenYou mean like viewing photos and showing it to people who may not be standing directly in front of it ?
Because the primary benefits of IPS are better color , and greater viewing angle.Of course , it 's not just photos which will benefit .
Video , web , and pretty much anything you will see on the screen ( and given that you 're presumably going to be looking at the screen while you use it , that 's pretty much everything ) will benefit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An IPS panel is certainly neat, but as you can't really use the ipad for anything that actually demands that kind of screenYou mean like viewing photos and showing it to people who may not be standing directly in front of it?
Because the primary benefits of IPS are better color, and greater viewing angle.Of course, it's not just photos which will benefit.
Video, web, and pretty much anything you will see on the screen (and given that you're presumably going to be looking at the screen while you use it, that's pretty much everything) will benefit.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952228</id>
	<title>Meh, only tech nerds will want it</title>
	<author>BrowncoatJedi</author>
	<datestamp>1264791060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Screen won't be as good. Nothing as good as iWork will run on it.  But go ahead and jizz all over it like you did the Zune, and then don't buy it, like you didn't buy the Zune. HAHAHAHAHA!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Screen wo n't be as good .
Nothing as good as iWork will run on it .
But go ahead and jizz all over it like you did the Zune , and then do n't buy it , like you did n't buy the Zune .
HAHAHAHAHA !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Screen won't be as good.
Nothing as good as iWork will run on it.
But go ahead and jizz all over it like you did the Zune, and then don't buy it, like you didn't buy the Zune.
HAHAHAHAHA!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950852</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1264786380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/9/6/" title="penny-arcade.com">Obligatory Penny Arcade</a> [penny-arcade.com] comic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Obligatory Penny Arcade [ penny-arcade.com ] comic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obligatory Penny Arcade [penny-arcade.com] comic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30958148</id>
	<title>Apple Will Launch Archos Alternative</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1264775160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The 5800 has a choice of stylus of finger, and it has handwriting recognition as one of the methods of input. I like using the stylus, and would hate not to have the choice.</p><p>Sadly you don't hear about it, because Slashdot and the rest of the media would rather give advertising to Apple, than mention the number 1 company in the market (Nokia).</p><p>Indeed, even on this article - a rare coverage of a non-Apple product, yet we still have the obligitary Apple mention. "Ipad alternative" my arse. The Ipad wasn't the first tablet, and it hasn't even been released yet. This, and the Ipad, are "Archos alternatives".</p><p>(If I tick the box to disable Slashdot advertising, will it clear all the Apple advertising too?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The 5800 has a choice of stylus of finger , and it has handwriting recognition as one of the methods of input .
I like using the stylus , and would hate not to have the choice.Sadly you do n't hear about it , because Slashdot and the rest of the media would rather give advertising to Apple , than mention the number 1 company in the market ( Nokia ) .Indeed , even on this article - a rare coverage of a non-Apple product , yet we still have the obligitary Apple mention .
" Ipad alternative " my arse .
The Ipad was n't the first tablet , and it has n't even been released yet .
This , and the Ipad , are " Archos alternatives " .
( If I tick the box to disable Slashdot advertising , will it clear all the Apple advertising too ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The 5800 has a choice of stylus of finger, and it has handwriting recognition as one of the methods of input.
I like using the stylus, and would hate not to have the choice.Sadly you don't hear about it, because Slashdot and the rest of the media would rather give advertising to Apple, than mention the number 1 company in the market (Nokia).Indeed, even on this article - a rare coverage of a non-Apple product, yet we still have the obligitary Apple mention.
"Ipad alternative" my arse.
The Ipad wasn't the first tablet, and it hasn't even been released yet.
This, and the Ipad, are "Archos alternatives".
(If I tick the box to disable Slashdot advertising, will it clear all the Apple advertising too?
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30956072</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1264764000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, no one is going to make that device unless they can find a viable business model.</p><p>The best technology NEVER wins, the best business model usually does however.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , no one is going to make that device unless they can find a viable business model.The best technology NEVER wins , the best business model usually does however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, no one is going to make that device unless they can find a viable business model.The best technology NEVER wins, the best business model usually does however.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951564</id>
	<title>android sucks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264788840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>go apple. now all the imitations will come out. ipad has flash support and might even have camera support as the software states but to rush this product for show the camera was left out. Yes multitouch is important and I guess it will be there in the second version as the A4 has multitouch options. so all you hatters just relax and enjoy that apple just pushed the limits a bit and now others can follow and evolve the technology.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>go apple .
now all the imitations will come out .
ipad has flash support and might even have camera support as the software states but to rush this product for show the camera was left out .
Yes multitouch is important and I guess it will be there in the second version as the A4 has multitouch options .
so all you hatters just relax and enjoy that apple just pushed the limits a bit and now others can follow and evolve the technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>go apple.
now all the imitations will come out.
ipad has flash support and might even have camera support as the software states but to rush this product for show the camera was left out.
Yes multitouch is important and I guess it will be there in the second version as the A4 has multitouch options.
so all you hatters just relax and enjoy that apple just pushed the limits a bit and now others can follow and evolve the technology.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30967316</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>yaiba</author>
	<datestamp>1264862220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iPad:<br>- boots faster<br>- is lighter<br>- digital compass<br>- ips lcd<br>- looks cooler</p><p>I think it depends on what are you using it for. And yes, I will pay extra $200 if it boots fast and much lighter. I don't need a computer I need an appliance.<br>It's like comparing a home-based firewall solution celeron server + iptables and linksys routers + dd-wrt. I'll get a linksys (cheaper electricity and smaller).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iPad : - boots faster- is lighter- digital compass- ips lcd- looks coolerI think it depends on what are you using it for .
And yes , I will pay extra $ 200 if it boots fast and much lighter .
I do n't need a computer I need an appliance.It 's like comparing a home-based firewall solution celeron server + iptables and linksys routers + dd-wrt .
I 'll get a linksys ( cheaper electricity and smaller ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPad:- boots faster- is lighter- digital compass- ips lcd- looks coolerI think it depends on what are you using it for.
And yes, I will pay extra $200 if it boots fast and much lighter.
I don't need a computer I need an appliance.It's like comparing a home-based firewall solution celeron server + iptables and linksys routers + dd-wrt.
I'll get a linksys (cheaper electricity and smaller).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953596</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>metamatic</author>
	<datestamp>1264796880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Apple has gambled (and I am increasingly thinking they're right on target) that a tablet is not a computer - it's a computing device.</p></div></blockquote><p>The trouble is, a "computing device" appears to be more expensive than a computer while doing less and locking you into Apple for all your software. That's a bit of a hard combination to swallow.</p><p>I mean, if the thing was (say) $300 it might be palatable as a Kindle alternative, but at $500 I just don't see it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple has gambled ( and I am increasingly thinking they 're right on target ) that a tablet is not a computer - it 's a computing device.The trouble is , a " computing device " appears to be more expensive than a computer while doing less and locking you into Apple for all your software .
That 's a bit of a hard combination to swallow.I mean , if the thing was ( say ) $ 300 it might be palatable as a Kindle alternative , but at $ 500 I just do n't see it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple has gambled (and I am increasingly thinking they're right on target) that a tablet is not a computer - it's a computing device.The trouble is, a "computing device" appears to be more expensive than a computer while doing less and locking you into Apple for all your software.
That's a bit of a hard combination to swallow.I mean, if the thing was (say) $300 it might be palatable as a Kindle alternative, but at $500 I just don't see it.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953170</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264794900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I donno I think it has to do with the individual.<br>I've had a netbook as my primary computer for going on 2 years now, and it's been just what I've needed.  Not that I'm knocking a larger monitor, but the keyboard fits my hands perfectly.  The touchpad on the otherhand I don't like, but it's easily changed to a usb-based mouse.  (every system has it's issues)</p><p>My old Asus netbook was bad quality for the price, but my newer Acer Aspire One showed me that the quality is there for the price.</p><p>Putting a netbook against a laptop in conditions is the competition, not how it feels while bouncing around... especially since a "normal" laptop would fly out of your hands if you didn't hold it with two hands while bouncing around.  (netbooks are light, and easy to hold with one hand, I do it often while going from room to room at work)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I donno I think it has to do with the individual.I 've had a netbook as my primary computer for going on 2 years now , and it 's been just what I 've needed .
Not that I 'm knocking a larger monitor , but the keyboard fits my hands perfectly .
The touchpad on the otherhand I do n't like , but it 's easily changed to a usb-based mouse .
( every system has it 's issues ) My old Asus netbook was bad quality for the price , but my newer Acer Aspire One showed me that the quality is there for the price.Putting a netbook against a laptop in conditions is the competition , not how it feels while bouncing around... especially since a " normal " laptop would fly out of your hands if you did n't hold it with two hands while bouncing around .
( netbooks are light , and easy to hold with one hand , I do it often while going from room to room at work )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I donno I think it has to do with the individual.I've had a netbook as my primary computer for going on 2 years now, and it's been just what I've needed.
Not that I'm knocking a larger monitor, but the keyboard fits my hands perfectly.
The touchpad on the otherhand I don't like, but it's easily changed to a usb-based mouse.
(every system has it's issues)My old Asus netbook was bad quality for the price, but my newer Acer Aspire One showed me that the quality is there for the price.Putting a netbook against a laptop in conditions is the competition, not how it feels while bouncing around... especially since a "normal" laptop would fly out of your hands if you didn't hold it with two hands while bouncing around.
(netbooks are light, and easy to hold with one hand, I do it often while going from room to room at work)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952122</id>
	<title>ARRGH.. iPhone OS DOES multitask!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264790760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's rare I get fired up enough to post here.  The iPhone OS does multi-task.  That's how you can listen to music while doing something else.  It just doesn't multi-task YOUR app.  99\% of the people here are not embedded device programs and case less about resource utilization.  THAT'S while multitasking is not enabled for run of the mill apps.  When Xcode handles power profiling and Apple figures out how to accept/reject Joe Sixpacks app if it doesn't meet power requirements, you can bet multi-tasking will be enabled.  I'm betting on 4.0.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's rare I get fired up enough to post here .
The iPhone OS does multi-task .
That 's how you can listen to music while doing something else .
It just does n't multi-task YOUR app .
99 \ % of the people here are not embedded device programs and case less about resource utilization .
THAT 'S while multitasking is not enabled for run of the mill apps .
When Xcode handles power profiling and Apple figures out how to accept/reject Joe Sixpacks app if it does n't meet power requirements , you can bet multi-tasking will be enabled .
I 'm betting on 4.0 .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's rare I get fired up enough to post here.
The iPhone OS does multi-task.
That's how you can listen to music while doing something else.
It just doesn't multi-task YOUR app.
99\% of the people here are not embedded device programs and case less about resource utilization.
THAT'S while multitasking is not enabled for run of the mill apps.
When Xcode handles power profiling and Apple figures out how to accept/reject Joe Sixpacks app if it doesn't meet power requirements, you can bet multi-tasking will be enabled.
I'm betting on 4.0.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954438</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>Kozz</author>
	<datestamp>1264757460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Y'know, I love my netbook, but there are some times that it really just doesn't do it for me.  Like in a yaris, at night, while someone else is driving down a gravel road.  The position you're in is uncomfortable.  The keyboard is awkward.  The trackpad is tiny and useless when you're bouncing around.</p></div><p>That seems like a pretty high bar.  Tiny uncomfortable vehicle, at night, on a bumpy gravel road?  It could be that this is one of those times that a person puts the computing devices away.  Under those conditions, it may also be difficult to even read a paperback.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Y'know , I love my netbook , but there are some times that it really just does n't do it for me .
Like in a yaris , at night , while someone else is driving down a gravel road .
The position you 're in is uncomfortable .
The keyboard is awkward .
The trackpad is tiny and useless when you 're bouncing around.That seems like a pretty high bar .
Tiny uncomfortable vehicle , at night , on a bumpy gravel road ?
It could be that this is one of those times that a person puts the computing devices away .
Under those conditions , it may also be difficult to even read a paperback .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Y'know, I love my netbook, but there are some times that it really just doesn't do it for me.
Like in a yaris, at night, while someone else is driving down a gravel road.
The position you're in is uncomfortable.
The keyboard is awkward.
The trackpad is tiny and useless when you're bouncing around.That seems like a pretty high bar.
Tiny uncomfortable vehicle, at night, on a bumpy gravel road?
It could be that this is one of those times that a person puts the computing devices away.
Under those conditions, it may also be difficult to even read a paperback.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30960056</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>telomerewhythere</author>
	<datestamp>1264881660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Like in a yaris, at night, while someone else is driving down a gravel road</p></div><p>
I personally would be riding with my shotgun out the window looking for zombies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like in a yaris , at night , while someone else is driving down a gravel road I personally would be riding with my shotgun out the window looking for zombies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like in a yaris, at night, while someone else is driving down a gravel road
I personally would be riding with my shotgun out the window looking for zombies.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951346</id>
	<title>Re:Productivity</title>
	<author>AndrewNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1264788180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google Docs doesn't really count on Android, anyway, considering there's no native version, and you have to run it in the browser if at all. I think there's DocumentsToGo but I don't know if it's any good or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google Docs does n't really count on Android , anyway , considering there 's no native version , and you have to run it in the browser if at all .
I think there 's DocumentsToGo but I do n't know if it 's any good or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google Docs doesn't really count on Android, anyway, considering there's no native version, and you have to run it in the browser if at all.
I think there's DocumentsToGo but I don't know if it's any good or not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30955958</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1264763520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Multitouch?  Or just single?  If its multi touch I'd be interested in how well it works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Multitouch ?
Or just single ?
If its multi touch I 'd be interested in how well it works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Multitouch?
Or just single?
If its multi touch I'd be interested in how well it works.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951908</id>
	<title>Re:Apple provides a good experience</title>
	<author>pandrijeczko</author>
	<datestamp>1264789980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I just keep seeing over and over again, with my own experience and through others, what a positive experience it is to use Apple products and what a hassle it is to use non-Apple products.</i></p><p>I've used computers for 30+ years, never found a need to own an Apple product until my missus gave me her iPod Touch after buying a Blackberry phone late last year. For a freebie, the Touch is a neat little device, a great little music player and lets me surf the Internet/read emails if I walk into a wi-fi hotspot with nothing else but it in my pocket.</p><p>But as a result of owning the Touch, I have not bought any other Apple products, the combinations of Windows XP and Linux on my various desktop/laptop/netbook PCs still suit me just fine, thanks very much.</p><p>Oh, apologies, I did by a HTC Hero phone running Android because whilst a locked-down music player is no biggie, a locked down phone is - so being given the Touch saved me a whole heap of potentially wasted money on an iPhone.</p><p><i>People dismissed the iPod and iPhone, when they first came out and then each time a competitor took a step ahead. Things like, where's the camera? Where's the video? Where's the radio tuner? And still today, where's the camera flash? Where's Adobe flash? Etc., etc. And yet, they sell extremely well, dominating their respective markets. Why? Because there's something about Apple's designs that taps into people emotionally. They're fun, they're endearing, they've got style. People like that, and people pay for it.</i></p><p>Like I said, never paid Apple for anything and the HTC Touch is an iPhone beater for me - the interface is as good as it is on the Touch but it's not locked down to Apple, I can stick what I like on it because I'm an adult. Therefore, for me, it's an iPhone beater.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just keep seeing over and over again , with my own experience and through others , what a positive experience it is to use Apple products and what a hassle it is to use non-Apple products.I 've used computers for 30 + years , never found a need to own an Apple product until my missus gave me her iPod Touch after buying a Blackberry phone late last year .
For a freebie , the Touch is a neat little device , a great little music player and lets me surf the Internet/read emails if I walk into a wi-fi hotspot with nothing else but it in my pocket.But as a result of owning the Touch , I have not bought any other Apple products , the combinations of Windows XP and Linux on my various desktop/laptop/netbook PCs still suit me just fine , thanks very much.Oh , apologies , I did by a HTC Hero phone running Android because whilst a locked-down music player is no biggie , a locked down phone is - so being given the Touch saved me a whole heap of potentially wasted money on an iPhone.People dismissed the iPod and iPhone , when they first came out and then each time a competitor took a step ahead .
Things like , where 's the camera ?
Where 's the video ?
Where 's the radio tuner ?
And still today , where 's the camera flash ?
Where 's Adobe flash ?
Etc. , etc .
And yet , they sell extremely well , dominating their respective markets .
Why ? Because there 's something about Apple 's designs that taps into people emotionally .
They 're fun , they 're endearing , they 've got style .
People like that , and people pay for it.Like I said , never paid Apple for anything and the HTC Touch is an iPhone beater for me - the interface is as good as it is on the Touch but it 's not locked down to Apple , I can stick what I like on it because I 'm an adult .
Therefore , for me , it 's an iPhone beater .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just keep seeing over and over again, with my own experience and through others, what a positive experience it is to use Apple products and what a hassle it is to use non-Apple products.I've used computers for 30+ years, never found a need to own an Apple product until my missus gave me her iPod Touch after buying a Blackberry phone late last year.
For a freebie, the Touch is a neat little device, a great little music player and lets me surf the Internet/read emails if I walk into a wi-fi hotspot with nothing else but it in my pocket.But as a result of owning the Touch, I have not bought any other Apple products, the combinations of Windows XP and Linux on my various desktop/laptop/netbook PCs still suit me just fine, thanks very much.Oh, apologies, I did by a HTC Hero phone running Android because whilst a locked-down music player is no biggie, a locked down phone is - so being given the Touch saved me a whole heap of potentially wasted money on an iPhone.People dismissed the iPod and iPhone, when they first came out and then each time a competitor took a step ahead.
Things like, where's the camera?
Where's the video?
Where's the radio tuner?
And still today, where's the camera flash?
Where's Adobe flash?
Etc., etc.
And yet, they sell extremely well, dominating their respective markets.
Why? Because there's something about Apple's designs that taps into people emotionally.
They're fun, they're endearing, they've got style.
People like that, and people pay for it.Like I said, never paid Apple for anything and the HTC Touch is an iPhone beater for me - the interface is as good as it is on the Touch but it's not locked down to Apple, I can stick what I like on it because I'm an adult.
Therefore, for me, it's an iPhone beater.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951818</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1264789740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget:</p><p>I need a terminal emulator</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget : I need a terminal emulator</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget:I need a terminal emulator</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30955060</id>
	<title>boring...</title>
	<author>pbjones</author>
	<datestamp>1264759680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Over the next year we are going to see a number of iPad alternatives, and that's a good thing, as long as we don't start seeing the term 'iPad-killer', which is a sign that the iPad has won. I see that the iPad-like devices will tap into the market that wants to sit on a lounge and twitter or check facebook or youtube, they don't care about the OS, they do care about how it looks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Over the next year we are going to see a number of iPad alternatives , and that 's a good thing , as long as we do n't start seeing the term 'iPad-killer ' , which is a sign that the iPad has won .
I see that the iPad-like devices will tap into the market that wants to sit on a lounge and twitter or check facebook or youtube , they do n't care about the OS , they do care about how it looks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Over the next year we are going to see a number of iPad alternatives, and that's a good thing, as long as we don't start seeing the term 'iPad-killer', which is a sign that the iPad has won.
I see that the iPad-like devices will tap into the market that wants to sit on a lounge and twitter or check facebook or youtube, they don't care about the OS, they do care about how it looks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951240</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>Alinabi</author>
	<datestamp>1264787760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Like in a yaris, at night, while someone else is driving down a gravel road.</p></div><p>Then buy a Hummer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like in a yaris , at night , while someone else is driving down a gravel road.Then buy a Hummer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like in a yaris, at night, while someone else is driving down a gravel road.Then buy a Hummer.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954602</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>Gilmoure</author>
	<datestamp>1264758120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if the stylus from my Newton 2100 would work?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if the stylus from my Newton 2100 would work ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if the stylus from my Newton 2100 would work?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952342</id>
	<title>Wish List</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1264791540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about you give me a 10" Netbook (usual specs, maybe 2GB ram), give it one of those screens you can twist around and use as a tablet, and make it a touch screen. Price it below 500$. Let it be able to run XP and 7.</p><p>PROFIT!</p><p>Seriously I want one. I could also see anyone doing any kind of mobile reporting, inspections, data collection would love these as a development platform.</p><p>I hate using windows CE as a developmental environment and the iPad I do not see filling this sort of corporate role.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about you give me a 10 " Netbook ( usual specs , maybe 2GB ram ) , give it one of those screens you can twist around and use as a tablet , and make it a touch screen .
Price it below 500 $ .
Let it be able to run XP and 7.PROFIT ! Seriously I want one .
I could also see anyone doing any kind of mobile reporting , inspections , data collection would love these as a development platform.I hate using windows CE as a developmental environment and the iPad I do not see filling this sort of corporate role .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about you give me a 10" Netbook (usual specs, maybe 2GB ram), give it one of those screens you can twist around and use as a tablet, and make it a touch screen.
Price it below 500$.
Let it be able to run XP and 7.PROFIT!Seriously I want one.
I could also see anyone doing any kind of mobile reporting, inspections, data collection would love these as a development platform.I hate using windows CE as a developmental environment and the iPad I do not see filling this sort of corporate role.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30964648</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm.</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1264883400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree. My stupid car GPS device (Pioneer) can use an SDHC card or an attached USB memory stick (or anything that looks like one) for audio/video playback. My cheaper camcorder can access a USB stick, play video from it or offload video from the SDHC card in the camcorder. My TV can play photos from a USB stick, and it's over three years old.. the new ones can play video. My Blu-Ray player can play photos or videos or music from an SDHC card or USB stick.</p><p>This is S.O.P. now on consumer devices. If a far more general purpose computing device like a table can't, that's pretty lame tablet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
My stupid car GPS device ( Pioneer ) can use an SDHC card or an attached USB memory stick ( or anything that looks like one ) for audio/video playback .
My cheaper camcorder can access a USB stick , play video from it or offload video from the SDHC card in the camcorder .
My TV can play photos from a USB stick , and it 's over three years old.. the new ones can play video .
My Blu-Ray player can play photos or videos or music from an SDHC card or USB stick.This is S.O.P .
now on consumer devices .
If a far more general purpose computing device like a table ca n't , that 's pretty lame tablet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
My stupid car GPS device (Pioneer) can use an SDHC card or an attached USB memory stick (or anything that looks like one) for audio/video playback.
My cheaper camcorder can access a USB stick, play video from it or offload video from the SDHC card in the camcorder.
My TV can play photos from a USB stick, and it's over three years old.. the new ones can play video.
My Blu-Ray player can play photos or videos or music from an SDHC card or USB stick.This is S.O.P.
now on consumer devices.
If a far more general purpose computing device like a table can't, that's pretty lame tablet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30961144</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>h4rm0ny</author>
	<datestamp>1264854840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I've wondered about the handwriting recognition; you just don't see/hear much about it anymore. But then, would you end up going back to a stylus or something? Handwriting with just your finger isn't going to be the same as if you're holding a pen. But I'd bet dollars to donuts Hell would freeze over before Apple includes any sort of stylus peripheral with one of their products!</p></div></blockquote><p>
The <a href="http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/microsoft-courier-tablet-prototype-reminds-us-of-codex.ars" title="arstechnica.com">Microsoft Courier</a> [arstechnica.com] will use a stylus (actually it appears to accept both touch and stylus). Given that the most desirable feature of tablets for many is the ability to write on them and annotate documents, I'd say this puts it in a strong position over things like the iPad for any "serious" usage. At least if the Courier has enough processing power and OS support for these things. I'm assuming that it will inherit Windows 7's hand-writing recognition technology so potentially this could be a great device. I'm holding off from getting a laptop until I see it as the main reason for a laptop for me is making notes and reading / browsing whilst travelling. The iPad falls down very badly on the first of those.
<br> <br>
Oddly, although I've been slating the iPad since it was demo'ed, I may actually end up buying one. Not for me, but for my mother who whilst very bright, isn't experienced with computers and also has less strength and mobility in her hands than she used to. I'm thinking that for her purposes (browsing, light emails), an iPad is pretty older parent friendly. Still overpriced, but if it's the best thing for her, it's what I'll get. I'm not sure Apple would be happy to know that I've finally found their target audience though - technologically inexperienced parents with slight arthritis. She does wear turtlenecks sometimes, though.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I 've wondered about the handwriting recognition ; you just do n't see/hear much about it anymore .
But then , would you end up going back to a stylus or something ?
Handwriting with just your finger is n't going to be the same as if you 're holding a pen .
But I 'd bet dollars to donuts Hell would freeze over before Apple includes any sort of stylus peripheral with one of their products !
The Microsoft Courier [ arstechnica.com ] will use a stylus ( actually it appears to accept both touch and stylus ) .
Given that the most desirable feature of tablets for many is the ability to write on them and annotate documents , I 'd say this puts it in a strong position over things like the iPad for any " serious " usage .
At least if the Courier has enough processing power and OS support for these things .
I 'm assuming that it will inherit Windows 7 's hand-writing recognition technology so potentially this could be a great device .
I 'm holding off from getting a laptop until I see it as the main reason for a laptop for me is making notes and reading / browsing whilst travelling .
The iPad falls down very badly on the first of those .
Oddly , although I 've been slating the iPad since it was demo'ed , I may actually end up buying one .
Not for me , but for my mother who whilst very bright , is n't experienced with computers and also has less strength and mobility in her hands than she used to .
I 'm thinking that for her purposes ( browsing , light emails ) , an iPad is pretty older parent friendly .
Still overpriced , but if it 's the best thing for her , it 's what I 'll get .
I 'm not sure Apple would be happy to know that I 've finally found their target audience though - technologically inexperienced parents with slight arthritis .
She does wear turtlenecks sometimes , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've wondered about the handwriting recognition; you just don't see/hear much about it anymore.
But then, would you end up going back to a stylus or something?
Handwriting with just your finger isn't going to be the same as if you're holding a pen.
But I'd bet dollars to donuts Hell would freeze over before Apple includes any sort of stylus peripheral with one of their products!
The Microsoft Courier [arstechnica.com] will use a stylus (actually it appears to accept both touch and stylus).
Given that the most desirable feature of tablets for many is the ability to write on them and annotate documents, I'd say this puts it in a strong position over things like the iPad for any "serious" usage.
At least if the Courier has enough processing power and OS support for these things.
I'm assuming that it will inherit Windows 7's hand-writing recognition technology so potentially this could be a great device.
I'm holding off from getting a laptop until I see it as the main reason for a laptop for me is making notes and reading / browsing whilst travelling.
The iPad falls down very badly on the first of those.
Oddly, although I've been slating the iPad since it was demo'ed, I may actually end up buying one.
Not for me, but for my mother who whilst very bright, isn't experienced with computers and also has less strength and mobility in her hands than she used to.
I'm thinking that for her purposes (browsing, light emails), an iPad is pretty older parent friendly.
Still overpriced, but if it's the best thing for her, it's what I'll get.
I'm not sure Apple would be happy to know that I've finally found their target audience though - technologically inexperienced parents with slight arthritis.
She does wear turtlenecks sometimes, though.
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	<title>Maybe....</title>
	<author>Mark19960</author>
	<datestamp>1264785900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it has more promise than the iWidgets do.<br>It's a more open platform which IMHO gives it more potential.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it has more promise than the iWidgets do.It 's a more open platform which IMHO gives it more potential .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it has more promise than the iWidgets do.It's a more open platform which IMHO gives it more potential.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30961088</id>
	<title>Track \_point\_?</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1264853760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>nice considering how crappy trackpad pointing is.</p></div><p>I totally agree: track pads are the horror.  Track points (clit mice) are good, though---at least I like the one on my Thinkpad t43p.</p><p>Give them a try (if you can).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>nice considering how crappy trackpad pointing is.I totally agree : track pads are the horror .
Track points ( clit mice ) are good , though---at least I like the one on my Thinkpad t43p.Give them a try ( if you can ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nice considering how crappy trackpad pointing is.I totally agree: track pads are the horror.
Track points (clit mice) are good, though---at least I like the one on my Thinkpad t43p.Give them a try (if you can).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950858</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264786380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd mod you up if I could.<br> <br>
I have an MSI Wind (a hackintosh) that I love but it is not the same thing as a tablet. Too many people view a tablet as "a computer that is just the screen." Apple has gambled (and I am increasingly thinking they're right on target) that a tablet is not a computer - it's a computing device. If you want a computer, you'll use a laptop or desktop. Those already exist and there are hundreds of choices available. A tablet, however, is an ultra-mobile device capable of very specific computing tasks.<br> <br>
In short, I agree - it's about doing few things better. That's why I think the iPad (hate that name) is going to do pretty well as it differentiates itself from the deluge of "computer in tablet form" offerings from other companies. It's not a computer in tablet form - it's a tablet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd mod you up if I could .
I have an MSI Wind ( a hackintosh ) that I love but it is not the same thing as a tablet .
Too many people view a tablet as " a computer that is just the screen .
" Apple has gambled ( and I am increasingly thinking they 're right on target ) that a tablet is not a computer - it 's a computing device .
If you want a computer , you 'll use a laptop or desktop .
Those already exist and there are hundreds of choices available .
A tablet , however , is an ultra-mobile device capable of very specific computing tasks .
In short , I agree - it 's about doing few things better .
That 's why I think the iPad ( hate that name ) is going to do pretty well as it differentiates itself from the deluge of " computer in tablet form " offerings from other companies .
It 's not a computer in tablet form - it 's a tablet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd mod you up if I could.
I have an MSI Wind (a hackintosh) that I love but it is not the same thing as a tablet.
Too many people view a tablet as "a computer that is just the screen.
" Apple has gambled (and I am increasingly thinking they're right on target) that a tablet is not a computer - it's a computing device.
If you want a computer, you'll use a laptop or desktop.
Those already exist and there are hundreds of choices available.
A tablet, however, is an ultra-mobile device capable of very specific computing tasks.
In short, I agree - it's about doing few things better.
That's why I think the iPad (hate that name) is going to do pretty well as it differentiates itself from the deluge of "computer in tablet form" offerings from other companies.
It's not a computer in tablet form - it's a tablet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952468</id>
	<title>Re:I think they are horrible.</title>
	<author>sexconker</author>
	<datestamp>1264792020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They only register my touches about 7/8 of the time.</p></div><p>They only register an average slashdotters touches about 0/10000 of the time.</p><p>Your average slashdotter is invariably left to interface with himself.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They only register my touches about 7/8 of the time.They only register an average slashdotters touches about 0/10000 of the time.Your average slashdotter is invariably left to interface with himself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They only register my touches about 7/8 of the time.They only register an average slashdotters touches about 0/10000 of the time.Your average slashdotter is invariably left to interface with himself.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953664</id>
	<title>Not a good alternative</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1264797240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It doesn't look that nice (even if it's very similar), it just lacks the shine and finish you get from Apple produces, for instance scrolling through the pictures was anything but smooth, it lacks multi-touch. Hell it failed to load a picture due to memory that they had on the machine. It just looks like something designed by a PC company rather than Apple.
<br> <br>
So if I'm in no way going to buy an iPad, I'm not going to buy a cheap knock-off.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't look that nice ( even if it 's very similar ) , it just lacks the shine and finish you get from Apple produces , for instance scrolling through the pictures was anything but smooth , it lacks multi-touch .
Hell it failed to load a picture due to memory that they had on the machine .
It just looks like something designed by a PC company rather than Apple .
So if I 'm in no way going to buy an iPad , I 'm not going to buy a cheap knock-off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't look that nice (even if it's very similar), it just lacks the shine and finish you get from Apple produces, for instance scrolling through the pictures was anything but smooth, it lacks multi-touch.
Hell it failed to load a picture due to memory that they had on the machine.
It just looks like something designed by a PC company rather than Apple.
So if I'm in no way going to buy an iPad, I'm not going to buy a cheap knock-off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954038</id>
	<title>Re:Why Ipad will not make it</title>
	<author>Spatial</author>
	<datestamp>1264755840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That would require consumers to objectively evaluate it.  Never happens.  They will buy it because marketing said it's awesome.  They'll want to believe it too, having spent so much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That would require consumers to objectively evaluate it .
Never happens .
They will buy it because marketing said it 's awesome .
They 'll want to believe it too , having spent so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would require consumers to objectively evaluate it.
Never happens.
They will buy it because marketing said it's awesome.
They'll want to believe it too, having spent so much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951408</id>
	<title>I think they are horrible.</title>
	<author>pavon</author>
	<datestamp>1264788360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe it's just my fingers, but every touch interface I have used has been absolutely horrible. They only register my touches about 7/8 of the time. And then of the times they register a touch, the only do what I intended about 3/4 of the time. They scroll when I wanted them to zoom, click when I wanted to scroll. It's an exercise in frustration everytime I have to use the damn things, regardless of whether it's an iTouch or Droid or the HP tablets or any of the other random phones that I have had to use on occasion. The only touch device that worked was my original Palm Pilot with a stylus.</p><p>It's really discouraging that all the smartphones are going to touch interfaces - even the ones with keyboards expect you to point and click with your fingers. It's the main reason that I have stuck with plain old phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it 's just my fingers , but every touch interface I have used has been absolutely horrible .
They only register my touches about 7/8 of the time .
And then of the times they register a touch , the only do what I intended about 3/4 of the time .
They scroll when I wanted them to zoom , click when I wanted to scroll .
It 's an exercise in frustration everytime I have to use the damn things , regardless of whether it 's an iTouch or Droid or the HP tablets or any of the other random phones that I have had to use on occasion .
The only touch device that worked was my original Palm Pilot with a stylus.It 's really discouraging that all the smartphones are going to touch interfaces - even the ones with keyboards expect you to point and click with your fingers .
It 's the main reason that I have stuck with plain old phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it's just my fingers, but every touch interface I have used has been absolutely horrible.
They only register my touches about 7/8 of the time.
And then of the times they register a touch, the only do what I intended about 3/4 of the time.
They scroll when I wanted them to zoom, click when I wanted to scroll.
It's an exercise in frustration everytime I have to use the damn things, regardless of whether it's an iTouch or Droid or the HP tablets or any of the other random phones that I have had to use on occasion.
The only touch device that worked was my original Palm Pilot with a stylus.It's really discouraging that all the smartphones are going to touch interfaces - even the ones with keyboards expect you to point and click with your fingers.
It's the main reason that I have stuck with plain old phone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951066</id>
	<title>On par?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264787160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"It has a camera. It's running on an Nvidia Tegra2 chip which Ars Technica suggests puts it on par with the iPad's A4 as far as computing horsepower"</p><p>What a stupid measurement.  A4 is superior for this environment. 300 mw 1GHz. 45nm. I will be might surprise if the Tegra2 can be put into a similiar sized device and still get 10 hours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It has a camera .
It 's running on an Nvidia Tegra2 chip which Ars Technica suggests puts it on par with the iPad 's A4 as far as computing horsepower " What a stupid measurement .
A4 is superior for this environment .
300 mw 1GHz .
45nm. I will be might surprise if the Tegra2 can be put into a similiar sized device and still get 10 hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It has a camera.
It's running on an Nvidia Tegra2 chip which Ars Technica suggests puts it on par with the iPad's A4 as far as computing horsepower"What a stupid measurement.
A4 is superior for this environment.
300 mw 1GHz.
45nm. I will be might surprise if the Tegra2 can be put into a similiar sized device and still get 10 hours.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951476</id>
	<title>direction</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264788540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iPooh'd</p><p>I dont really hate Apple, every company has their good/bad ideas.  It will be interesting to see where this iPad leads to.  Have been using Apple products for about 18 years now, along with x86 products.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iPooh'dI dont really hate Apple , every company has their good/bad ideas .
It will be interesting to see where this iPad leads to .
Have been using Apple products for about 18 years now , along with x86 products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPooh'dI dont really hate Apple, every company has their good/bad ideas.
It will be interesting to see where this iPad leads to.
Have been using Apple products for about 18 years now, along with x86 products.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950878</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264786440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So the best device for your wife would be a solid chunk of stainless steel so she wouldn't have to worry about the battery life, don't worry about the screen if the device falls down, and actually don't worry about anything at all. After all, a chunk of stainless steel does extremely few things (well, actually nothing) but it is the best at it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So the best device for your wife would be a solid chunk of stainless steel so she would n't have to worry about the battery life , do n't worry about the screen if the device falls down , and actually do n't worry about anything at all .
After all , a chunk of stainless steel does extremely few things ( well , actually nothing ) but it is the best at it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the best device for your wife would be a solid chunk of stainless steel so she wouldn't have to worry about the battery life, don't worry about the screen if the device falls down, and actually don't worry about anything at all.
After all, a chunk of stainless steel does extremely few things (well, actually nothing) but it is the best at it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951418</id>
	<title>Glorified TV Remote?</title>
	<author>2obvious4u</author>
	<datestamp>1264788360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Would be awesome if I could use it as a glorified tv remote.  If it could be used in place of <a href="http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal\_remotes/devices/4708&amp;cl=us,en" title="logitech.com">this remote</a> [logitech.com] then I would look at buying one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would be awesome if I could use it as a glorified tv remote .
If it could be used in place of this remote [ logitech.com ] then I would look at buying one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would be awesome if I could use it as a glorified tv remote.
If it could be used in place of this remote [logitech.com] then I would look at buying one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953014</id>
	<title>Re:On Par?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1264794240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Highly doubt the Tegra 2 is on par with the A4, unless the A4 has a dual-core Cortex A9... Info suggests the A4 is only a single core Cortex A9 which would make the Tegra2 at least 2x more powerful. Not to mention Nvidia vs ARM based graphics core.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>If the Tegra 2 = dual-core Cortex A9, then a Tegra 2 is 2x <b>as</b> powerful as a single-core Cortex A9, or 1x (100\%) <b>more</b> powerful than a single-core Cortex A9. If you say it's 2x <b>more</b> powerful, then you're saying it's 3x <b>as</b> powerful.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Highly doubt the Tegra 2 is on par with the A4 , unless the A4 has a dual-core Cortex A9... Info suggests the A4 is only a single core Cortex A9 which would make the Tegra2 at least 2x more powerful .
Not to mention Nvidia vs ARM based graphics core .
If the Tegra 2 = dual-core Cortex A9 , then a Tegra 2 is 2x as powerful as a single-core Cortex A9 , or 1x ( 100 \ % ) more powerful than a single-core Cortex A9 .
If you say it 's 2x more powerful , then you 're saying it 's 3x as powerful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Highly doubt the Tegra 2 is on par with the A4, unless the A4 has a dual-core Cortex A9... Info suggests the A4 is only a single core Cortex A9 which would make the Tegra2 at least 2x more powerful.
Not to mention Nvidia vs ARM based graphics core.
If the Tegra 2 = dual-core Cortex A9, then a Tegra 2 is 2x as powerful as a single-core Cortex A9, or 1x (100\%) more powerful than a single-core Cortex A9.
If you say it's 2x more powerful, then you're saying it's 3x as powerful.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951152</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>russian\_casey</author>
	<datestamp>1264787460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's the same with various PC OEMs introducing gestures to their trackpads. The problem is, the trackpads are plastic garbage, the gestures are unwieldy, and it's just nothing like an Apple multitouch trackpad - at all.

I think these new tablets are going to be the same. iPod touch and the 2G iPhone were lackluster and "underwhelming" at launch, too. And then OS 2.0 came along and blew everyone else out of the water. Killer apps are on their way for the iPad, rest assured.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the same with various PC OEMs introducing gestures to their trackpads .
The problem is , the trackpads are plastic garbage , the gestures are unwieldy , and it 's just nothing like an Apple multitouch trackpad - at all .
I think these new tablets are going to be the same .
iPod touch and the 2G iPhone were lackluster and " underwhelming " at launch , too .
And then OS 2.0 came along and blew everyone else out of the water .
Killer apps are on their way for the iPad , rest assured .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the same with various PC OEMs introducing gestures to their trackpads.
The problem is, the trackpads are plastic garbage, the gestures are unwieldy, and it's just nothing like an Apple multitouch trackpad - at all.
I think these new tablets are going to be the same.
iPod touch and the 2G iPhone were lackluster and "underwhelming" at launch, too.
And then OS 2.0 came along and blew everyone else out of the water.
Killer apps are on their way for the iPad, rest assured.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951518</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>cowscows</author>
	<datestamp>1264788720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The solution for the text-entry issue is to accept the fact that the tablet form will never be good for text entry. Which is one of the reasons why Apple isn't positioning the iPad as a replacement for a full-function computer, and instead is thinking of it more as an appliance.</p><p>Handwriting recognition will be nice for some stuff, but we're never going to see offices replacing desktops with tablets and having workers deal with spreadsheets all day on them. Same goes with voice recognition. The tablet form is not going to replace regular computers. It'll do some stuff basically the same as a desktop/laptop, it'll do some stuff better, and it'll be terrible at some stuff that we're used to. Apple's attitude is generally that if it's terrible at doing something, we won't try to make it do it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The solution for the text-entry issue is to accept the fact that the tablet form will never be good for text entry .
Which is one of the reasons why Apple is n't positioning the iPad as a replacement for a full-function computer , and instead is thinking of it more as an appliance.Handwriting recognition will be nice for some stuff , but we 're never going to see offices replacing desktops with tablets and having workers deal with spreadsheets all day on them .
Same goes with voice recognition .
The tablet form is not going to replace regular computers .
It 'll do some stuff basically the same as a desktop/laptop , it 'll do some stuff better , and it 'll be terrible at some stuff that we 're used to .
Apple 's attitude is generally that if it 's terrible at doing something , we wo n't try to make it do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The solution for the text-entry issue is to accept the fact that the tablet form will never be good for text entry.
Which is one of the reasons why Apple isn't positioning the iPad as a replacement for a full-function computer, and instead is thinking of it more as an appliance.Handwriting recognition will be nice for some stuff, but we're never going to see offices replacing desktops with tablets and having workers deal with spreadsheets all day on them.
Same goes with voice recognition.
The tablet form is not going to replace regular computers.
It'll do some stuff basically the same as a desktop/laptop, it'll do some stuff better, and it'll be terrible at some stuff that we're used to.
Apple's attitude is generally that if it's terrible at doing something, we won't try to make it do it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30956546</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>nschubach</author>
	<datestamp>1264765860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got a Motion Table some time ago (1Ghz Celeron.)  It came with One-Note, etc... but I think I might still be using it if it had touch capability and didn't weight a ton and a half.  I think Tablets (as Microsoft designed them) are ahead of their time, and a bit too clunky.  Too much reliance on the XP OS model.  Mainly the pen only interface killed it for me because all they did was map it to a mouse pointer.  Taking notes in One-Note and having it recognize your handwriting was an exercise in learning how to write all over again "the Microsoft friendly" way.  I hated every minute of it.  At least there's one person who likes One-Note, I guess.  I even tried fiddling with it in Corel Draw because it interpreted differing pressures, but it was mainly just the length of the press that I could see.</p><p>It had a built in microphone that I tested once in a meeting, but it didn't recognize voices well enough to convert it to text.  The fact that it was built in made it detect all the times I'd write or tap on the screen causing terrible noise on playback... I would have been better off with a pen recorder sitting on the desk.  Having a separate microphone just means bringing more junk in the room with you... defeats the purpose of a lightweight tablet, IMHO.</p><p>Overall, I wasn't happy with XP Tablet Edition on my tablet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got a Motion Table some time ago ( 1Ghz Celeron .
) It came with One-Note , etc... but I think I might still be using it if it had touch capability and did n't weight a ton and a half .
I think Tablets ( as Microsoft designed them ) are ahead of their time , and a bit too clunky .
Too much reliance on the XP OS model .
Mainly the pen only interface killed it for me because all they did was map it to a mouse pointer .
Taking notes in One-Note and having it recognize your handwriting was an exercise in learning how to write all over again " the Microsoft friendly " way .
I hated every minute of it .
At least there 's one person who likes One-Note , I guess .
I even tried fiddling with it in Corel Draw because it interpreted differing pressures , but it was mainly just the length of the press that I could see.It had a built in microphone that I tested once in a meeting , but it did n't recognize voices well enough to convert it to text .
The fact that it was built in made it detect all the times I 'd write or tap on the screen causing terrible noise on playback... I would have been better off with a pen recorder sitting on the desk .
Having a separate microphone just means bringing more junk in the room with you... defeats the purpose of a lightweight tablet , IMHO.Overall , I was n't happy with XP Tablet Edition on my tablet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got a Motion Table some time ago (1Ghz Celeron.
)  It came with One-Note, etc... but I think I might still be using it if it had touch capability and didn't weight a ton and a half.
I think Tablets (as Microsoft designed them) are ahead of their time, and a bit too clunky.
Too much reliance on the XP OS model.
Mainly the pen only interface killed it for me because all they did was map it to a mouse pointer.
Taking notes in One-Note and having it recognize your handwriting was an exercise in learning how to write all over again "the Microsoft friendly" way.
I hated every minute of it.
At least there's one person who likes One-Note, I guess.
I even tried fiddling with it in Corel Draw because it interpreted differing pressures, but it was mainly just the length of the press that I could see.It had a built in microphone that I tested once in a meeting, but it didn't recognize voices well enough to convert it to text.
The fact that it was built in made it detect all the times I'd write or tap on the screen causing terrible noise on playback... I would have been better off with a pen recorder sitting on the desk.
Having a separate microphone just means bringing more junk in the room with you... defeats the purpose of a lightweight tablet, IMHO.Overall, I wasn't happy with XP Tablet Edition on my tablet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951666</id>
	<title>Re:On par?</title>
	<author>yoden</author>
	<datestamp>1264789140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not sure if you're a troll or not, but the tegra 2 is intended for exactly this market.  It uses the same cortex a9 cpus (comes in dual core varieties too) and supports hardware 1080p encode/decode.  The TI OMAP4 is another similar product.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure if you 're a troll or not , but the tegra 2 is intended for exactly this market .
It uses the same cortex a9 cpus ( comes in dual core varieties too ) and supports hardware 1080p encode/decode .
The TI OMAP4 is another similar product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure if you're a troll or not, but the tegra 2 is intended for exactly this market.
It uses the same cortex a9 cpus (comes in dual core varieties too) and supports hardware 1080p encode/decode.
The TI OMAP4 is another similar product.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953264</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>RyuuzakiTetsuya</author>
	<datestamp>1264795260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For 200 bucks, I'll take a tablet that's not running a 32bit desktop OS with known security flaws, driver flaws and usability flaws.</p><p>The fact is though, I could throw ubuntu on there too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For 200 bucks , I 'll take a tablet that 's not running a 32bit desktop OS with known security flaws , driver flaws and usability flaws.The fact is though , I could throw ubuntu on there too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For 200 bucks, I'll take a tablet that's not running a 32bit desktop OS with known security flaws, driver flaws and usability flaws.The fact is though, I could throw ubuntu on there too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30990226</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1265033760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Microsoft One-Note. It's the killer tablet app.</p><p>The Web is the killer app for touch tablets. We have been making links look like buttons for about 75\% of the Web's history and clicking them with the mouse instead of pushing them with fingers. Also the scrolling is much better with touch.</p><p>There are a lot of other applications for it, but when you move the Web from mouse to touch it gets better without any recoding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Microsoft One-Note .
It 's the killer tablet app.The Web is the killer app for touch tablets .
We have been making links look like buttons for about 75 \ % of the Web 's history and clicking them with the mouse instead of pushing them with fingers .
Also the scrolling is much better with touch.There are a lot of other applications for it , but when you move the Web from mouse to touch it gets better without any recoding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Microsoft One-Note.
It's the killer tablet app.The Web is the killer app for touch tablets.
We have been making links look like buttons for about 75\% of the Web's history and clicking them with the mouse instead of pushing them with fingers.
Also the scrolling is much better with touch.There are a lot of other applications for it, but when you move the Web from mouse to touch it gets better without any recoding.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951528</id>
	<title>Department of Redundancy Department</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264788720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While we're adopting the ODF Document Format, why don't we open up an IRA account at an ATM machine and set our PIN number.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While we 're adopting the ODF Document Format , why do n't we open up an IRA account at an ATM machine and set our PIN number .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While we're adopting the ODF Document Format, why don't we open up an IRA account at an ATM machine and set our PIN number.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30990382</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1265035080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a book. You hold it like a book, you use it like a book. Books are held with 2 hands or they are put on a stand or they are laid flat on a desk. Notice the iPad has an IPS screen that specifically enables you to lay it flat on a desk and still read it from a lousy angle.</p><p>Stop being so literal and trying to substitute iPad for a notebook computer because they both have screens and CPU's and do computation. The notebook computer is a typewriter; the iPad is a book; the iPod is a music box; the TiVo is a VCR, the bank machine is a bank teller. It doesn't matter that these things all have computers in them. They are the computerized versions of many different devices. Different form factors follow the different functions.</p><p>The iPad is much more likely to replace a computer book than a computer in your life. That is the idea. Instead of 10 computer books next to your desk, you'll have one iPad with 10 eBooks on it. You'll still have the personal computer you've got now on the desk for Photoshop, but you'll have Photoshop Bible on the iPad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a book .
You hold it like a book , you use it like a book .
Books are held with 2 hands or they are put on a stand or they are laid flat on a desk .
Notice the iPad has an IPS screen that specifically enables you to lay it flat on a desk and still read it from a lousy angle.Stop being so literal and trying to substitute iPad for a notebook computer because they both have screens and CPU 's and do computation .
The notebook computer is a typewriter ; the iPad is a book ; the iPod is a music box ; the TiVo is a VCR , the bank machine is a bank teller .
It does n't matter that these things all have computers in them .
They are the computerized versions of many different devices .
Different form factors follow the different functions.The iPad is much more likely to replace a computer book than a computer in your life .
That is the idea .
Instead of 10 computer books next to your desk , you 'll have one iPad with 10 eBooks on it .
You 'll still have the personal computer you 've got now on the desk for Photoshop , but you 'll have Photoshop Bible on the iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a book.
You hold it like a book, you use it like a book.
Books are held with 2 hands or they are put on a stand or they are laid flat on a desk.
Notice the iPad has an IPS screen that specifically enables you to lay it flat on a desk and still read it from a lousy angle.Stop being so literal and trying to substitute iPad for a notebook computer because they both have screens and CPU's and do computation.
The notebook computer is a typewriter; the iPad is a book; the iPod is a music box; the TiVo is a VCR, the bank machine is a bank teller.
It doesn't matter that these things all have computers in them.
They are the computerized versions of many different devices.
Different form factors follow the different functions.The iPad is much more likely to replace a computer book than a computer in your life.
That is the idea.
Instead of 10 computer books next to your desk, you'll have one iPad with 10 eBooks on it.
You'll still have the personal computer you've got now on the desk for Photoshop, but you'll have Photoshop Bible on the iPad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952790</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264793280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The iPad does have a touchscreen. Does that offset the $200 and all other disadvantages</i></p><p>You also have to use itunes to get your content on to the ipants. If itunes doesn't support your media, touch shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad does have a touchscreen .
Does that offset the $ 200 and all other disadvantagesYou also have to use itunes to get your content on to the ipants .
If itunes does n't support your media , touch shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad does have a touchscreen.
Does that offset the $200 and all other disadvantagesYou also have to use itunes to get your content on to the ipants.
If itunes doesn't support your media, touch shit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951332</id>
	<title>For music-making, waiting for the Win7 iPad clone</title>
	<author>MunchMunch</author>
	<datestamp>1264788120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it's only a matter of time until someone clones the basic multitouch functionality and iPad form factor in a Win7 system.  That's basically all I'm waiting for, because I need that compatibility to run full featured music creation software.  (Yes, Android and iPhone both have music making apps, but you have to jump through many hoops to even hope to integrate them into professional software, and even then they're still mostly just toys.)  <br>
<br>
While I like open source operating systems, and Android would be heads and tails above iPhone OS's closed environment, I really just want to be able to use the software I currently use on a laptop/desktop.  And that means Win7 (though XP is fine).  <br>
<br>
The best thing about the iPad is that it provides a feature blueprint to manufacturers of all the current, bulky, poorly-designed Win7 tablets.  Whether from the semi-knock-off factories in China or from more upstanding sources, hopefully within the year we will finally have a relatively powerful Win7 tablet with multitouch and a usable form factor.  This tablet from MSI isn't it, but it is a great sign that PC/laptop manufacturers are eager to exploit the iPad hype and revisit innovation upon a previously dwindling market.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's only a matter of time until someone clones the basic multitouch functionality and iPad form factor in a Win7 system .
That 's basically all I 'm waiting for , because I need that compatibility to run full featured music creation software .
( Yes , Android and iPhone both have music making apps , but you have to jump through many hoops to even hope to integrate them into professional software , and even then they 're still mostly just toys .
) While I like open source operating systems , and Android would be heads and tails above iPhone OS 's closed environment , I really just want to be able to use the software I currently use on a laptop/desktop .
And that means Win7 ( though XP is fine ) .
The best thing about the iPad is that it provides a feature blueprint to manufacturers of all the current , bulky , poorly-designed Win7 tablets .
Whether from the semi-knock-off factories in China or from more upstanding sources , hopefully within the year we will finally have a relatively powerful Win7 tablet with multitouch and a usable form factor .
This tablet from MSI is n't it , but it is a great sign that PC/laptop manufacturers are eager to exploit the iPad hype and revisit innovation upon a previously dwindling market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's only a matter of time until someone clones the basic multitouch functionality and iPad form factor in a Win7 system.
That's basically all I'm waiting for, because I need that compatibility to run full featured music creation software.
(Yes, Android and iPhone both have music making apps, but you have to jump through many hoops to even hope to integrate them into professional software, and even then they're still mostly just toys.
)  

While I like open source operating systems, and Android would be heads and tails above iPhone OS's closed environment, I really just want to be able to use the software I currently use on a laptop/desktop.
And that means Win7 (though XP is fine).
The best thing about the iPad is that it provides a feature blueprint to manufacturers of all the current, bulky, poorly-designed Win7 tablets.
Whether from the semi-knock-off factories in China or from more upstanding sources, hopefully within the year we will finally have a relatively powerful Win7 tablet with multitouch and a usable form factor.
This tablet from MSI isn't it, but it is a great sign that PC/laptop manufacturers are eager to exploit the iPad hype and revisit innovation upon a previously dwindling market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951676</id>
	<title>JooJoo</title>
	<author>MrTripps</author>
	<datestamp>1264789140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The JooJoo (formerly known as CrunchPad) looks better to me.
<a href="https://thejoojoo.com/" title="thejoojoo.com" rel="nofollow">https://thejoojoo.com/</a> [thejoojoo.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>The JooJoo ( formerly known as CrunchPad ) looks better to me .
https : //thejoojoo.com/ [ thejoojoo.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The JooJoo (formerly known as CrunchPad) looks better to me.
https://thejoojoo.com/ [thejoojoo.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953124</id>
	<title>Re:On Par?</title>
	<author>ttldkns</author>
	<datestamp>1264794660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thing is nobody can know how many cores it has since apple hasn't disclosed that information.</p><p>The Cortex A9 can support 1-4 cores per die (http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARMCortex-A9\_MPCore.html see the colourful diagram)</p><p>The apple processor is called the A4. I have just as much credibility as any tech blogger on the internet to suggest the apple CPU they have developed perhaps has 4 cores?</p><p>And just to set the record straight everyone could shut up about multitasking if apple would just let apps hand off any audio stream to the background media player that the iPod app uses. Everything else can be done by apps creatively saving their state and a better handling of notifications. You read that android does multitasking but you don't read that you need to run a task killer to get any kind of responsiveness out of the phone. People want to do more than one thing at once but diminishing resources and battery life with every developer's pet background process is not the way to solve it in these kinds of devices. and by kinds of devices I mean devices without a swap file for whatever reason.</p><p>Disclaimer: i'm an iPhone developer</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thing is nobody can know how many cores it has since apple has n't disclosed that information.The Cortex A9 can support 1-4 cores per die ( http : //www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARMCortex-A9 \ _MPCore.html see the colourful diagram ) The apple processor is called the A4 .
I have just as much credibility as any tech blogger on the internet to suggest the apple CPU they have developed perhaps has 4 cores ? And just to set the record straight everyone could shut up about multitasking if apple would just let apps hand off any audio stream to the background media player that the iPod app uses .
Everything else can be done by apps creatively saving their state and a better handling of notifications .
You read that android does multitasking but you do n't read that you need to run a task killer to get any kind of responsiveness out of the phone .
People want to do more than one thing at once but diminishing resources and battery life with every developer 's pet background process is not the way to solve it in these kinds of devices .
and by kinds of devices I mean devices without a swap file for whatever reason.Disclaimer : i 'm an iPhone developer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thing is nobody can know how many cores it has since apple hasn't disclosed that information.The Cortex A9 can support 1-4 cores per die (http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARMCortex-A9\_MPCore.html see the colourful diagram)The apple processor is called the A4.
I have just as much credibility as any tech blogger on the internet to suggest the apple CPU they have developed perhaps has 4 cores?And just to set the record straight everyone could shut up about multitasking if apple would just let apps hand off any audio stream to the background media player that the iPod app uses.
Everything else can be done by apps creatively saving their state and a better handling of notifications.
You read that android does multitasking but you don't read that you need to run a task killer to get any kind of responsiveness out of the phone.
People want to do more than one thing at once but diminishing resources and battery life with every developer's pet background process is not the way to solve it in these kinds of devices.
and by kinds of devices I mean devices without a swap file for whatever reason.Disclaimer: i'm an iPhone developer</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953364</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Subliminalbits</author>
	<datestamp>1264795740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its easy to only list the biggest differences that make the netbook look nice.  I'm guessing you're talking about the MSI Wind.</p><p>1.6 pounds vs. 3 pounds<br>Ability to use while you hold it in your hand vs. requiring your computer to be in your lap<br>10.24" x 7.09" x 0.75" - 1.24" vs. 9.56" x 7.47" x 0.5"<br>No 3G vs. 3G<br>14 hour battery (7.5 listed on review site) vs. 10 hour battery (no listed reviews yet)<br>1024x600 resolution vs. 1024x768 resolution</p><p>The jury is still out on usability and that will be one of the most important differentiators.</p><p>Sure this doesn't tilt things squarely in the iPad's favor but if you're just going to compare processing power and price you might as well throw your smart phone away and buy a netbook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its easy to only list the biggest differences that make the netbook look nice .
I 'm guessing you 're talking about the MSI Wind.1.6 pounds vs. 3 poundsAbility to use while you hold it in your hand vs. requiring your computer to be in your lap10.24 " x 7.09 " x 0.75 " - 1.24 " vs. 9.56 " x 7.47 " x 0.5 " No 3G vs. 3G14 hour battery ( 7.5 listed on review site ) vs. 10 hour battery ( no listed reviews yet ) 1024x600 resolution vs. 1024x768 resolutionThe jury is still out on usability and that will be one of the most important differentiators.Sure this does n't tilt things squarely in the iPad 's favor but if you 're just going to compare processing power and price you might as well throw your smart phone away and buy a netbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its easy to only list the biggest differences that make the netbook look nice.
I'm guessing you're talking about the MSI Wind.1.6 pounds vs. 3 poundsAbility to use while you hold it in your hand vs. requiring your computer to be in your lap10.24" x 7.09" x 0.75" - 1.24" vs. 9.56" x 7.47" x 0.5"No 3G vs. 3G14 hour battery (7.5 listed on review site) vs. 10 hour battery (no listed reviews yet)1024x600 resolution vs. 1024x768 resolutionThe jury is still out on usability and that will be one of the most important differentiators.Sure this doesn't tilt things squarely in the iPad's favor but if you're just going to compare processing power and price you might as well throw your smart phone away and buy a netbook.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30956918</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264767840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why stop there?<br>No viruses vs. viruses.<br>No anti-viruses vs. anti-viruses.<br>No flash exploits vs. flash exploits.<br>1.5 lbs. vs. 4.0 lbs. (see, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison\_of\_netbooks)<br>10 hrs. vs. 3-6 hrs. (ibid.)<br>Wide viewing angle vs. narrow viewing angle.<br>Flash drive vs. no flash drive.<br>Eco-friendly (arsenic-free, BFR-free, mercury-free, PVC-free, recyclable aluminium and glass) vs. whatever!<br>Bluetooth vs. no bluetooth.<br>Accelerometers vs. no accelerometers.<br>Digital compass vs. no digital compass.<br>Multi-touch vs. no multi-touch. H*ck, vs. no touch at all!<br>I mean, if we're just going to regurgitate features without trying to give any thought to the possibilities (do you even what a compiler is and how to use it??), at least let's do a full regurgitation!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why stop there ? No viruses vs. viruses.No anti-viruses vs. anti-viruses.No flash exploits vs. flash exploits.1.5 lbs .
vs. 4.0 lbs .
( see , e.g. , http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison \ _of \ _netbooks ) 10 hrs .
vs. 3-6 hrs .
( ibid. ) Wide viewing angle vs. narrow viewing angle.Flash drive vs. no flash drive.Eco-friendly ( arsenic-free , BFR-free , mercury-free , PVC-free , recyclable aluminium and glass ) vs. whatever ! Bluetooth vs. no bluetooth.Accelerometers vs. no accelerometers.Digital compass vs. no digital compass.Multi-touch vs. no multi-touch .
H * ck , vs. no touch at all ! I mean , if we 're just going to regurgitate features without trying to give any thought to the possibilities ( do you even what a compiler is and how to use it ? ?
) , at least let 's do a full regurgitation !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why stop there?No viruses vs. viruses.No anti-viruses vs. anti-viruses.No flash exploits vs. flash exploits.1.5 lbs.
vs. 4.0 lbs.
(see, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison\_of\_netbooks)10 hrs.
vs. 3-6 hrs.
(ibid.)Wide viewing angle vs. narrow viewing angle.Flash drive vs. no flash drive.Eco-friendly (arsenic-free, BFR-free, mercury-free, PVC-free, recyclable aluminium and glass) vs. whatever!Bluetooth vs. no bluetooth.Accelerometers vs. no accelerometers.Digital compass vs. no digital compass.Multi-touch vs. no multi-touch.
H*ck, vs. no touch at all!I mean, if we're just going to regurgitate features without trying to give any thought to the possibilities (do you even what a compiler is and how to use it??
), at least let's do a full regurgitation!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952436</id>
	<title>Bring me Moblin/Maemo/KDE's Plasma Netbook Shell</title>
	<author>Lemming Mark</author>
	<datestamp>1264791840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't really see that much appeal in having Android on a tablet, to be honest.  On a phone I can see there are arguments for a software stack that diverges from the Linux "norm" but on something larger I would actually quite like it to be easy to run my favourite applications (possibly with GUI modifications).  Moblin has a touch-oriented interface that's designed to expose information to the user on a read-mostly device, KDE's Plasma Netbook shell is going in this direction too.  I'd prefer to get access to the much larger developer base (and existing software base) that you'd get with a full-featured OS.</p><p>Also, having a "full" Linux on a tablet gives me the potential to, say, redirect sound from a movie I'm watching onto a home theatre machine with better speakers, or to migrate a radio stream from my desktop onto the tablet when I take it out of the room.  If I'm running a more restrictive device it makes it harder for me to knock together cool hacks like that - and it probably makes it harder for other developers (and the device manufacturers) to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't really see that much appeal in having Android on a tablet , to be honest .
On a phone I can see there are arguments for a software stack that diverges from the Linux " norm " but on something larger I would actually quite like it to be easy to run my favourite applications ( possibly with GUI modifications ) .
Moblin has a touch-oriented interface that 's designed to expose information to the user on a read-mostly device , KDE 's Plasma Netbook shell is going in this direction too .
I 'd prefer to get access to the much larger developer base ( and existing software base ) that you 'd get with a full-featured OS.Also , having a " full " Linux on a tablet gives me the potential to , say , redirect sound from a movie I 'm watching onto a home theatre machine with better speakers , or to migrate a radio stream from my desktop onto the tablet when I take it out of the room .
If I 'm running a more restrictive device it makes it harder for me to knock together cool hacks like that - and it probably makes it harder for other developers ( and the device manufacturers ) to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't really see that much appeal in having Android on a tablet, to be honest.
On a phone I can see there are arguments for a software stack that diverges from the Linux "norm" but on something larger I would actually quite like it to be easy to run my favourite applications (possibly with GUI modifications).
Moblin has a touch-oriented interface that's designed to expose information to the user on a read-mostly device, KDE's Plasma Netbook shell is going in this direction too.
I'd prefer to get access to the much larger developer base (and existing software base) that you'd get with a full-featured OS.Also, having a "full" Linux on a tablet gives me the potential to, say, redirect sound from a movie I'm watching onto a home theatre machine with better speakers, or to migrate a radio stream from my desktop onto the tablet when I take it out of the room.
If I'm running a more restrictive device it makes it harder for me to knock together cool hacks like that - and it probably makes it harder for other developers (and the device manufacturers) to do so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951264</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>Myopic</author>
	<datestamp>1264787880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Word. The touchpad is the worst thing about my AspireOne. The second worse is the wireless card, which from time to time dies, and requires not only a reboot, but I have to unplug it and pull the battery. (For a while, I had Linux/Windows dual boot, and the wireless card would still be dead even if I booted into a different OS, so it was definitely the hardware.) Still, dollar-for-dollar this AspireOne is definitely the best-value computer hardware I've ever bought, by far. (I paid $300 at Costco for the ZG5 model.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Word .
The touchpad is the worst thing about my AspireOne .
The second worse is the wireless card , which from time to time dies , and requires not only a reboot , but I have to unplug it and pull the battery .
( For a while , I had Linux/Windows dual boot , and the wireless card would still be dead even if I booted into a different OS , so it was definitely the hardware .
) Still , dollar-for-dollar this AspireOne is definitely the best-value computer hardware I 've ever bought , by far .
( I paid $ 300 at Costco for the ZG5 model .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Word.
The touchpad is the worst thing about my AspireOne.
The second worse is the wireless card, which from time to time dies, and requires not only a reboot, but I have to unplug it and pull the battery.
(For a while, I had Linux/Windows dual boot, and the wireless card would still be dead even if I booted into a different OS, so it was definitely the hardware.
) Still, dollar-for-dollar this AspireOne is definitely the best-value computer hardware I've ever bought, by far.
(I paid $300 at Costco for the ZG5 model.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30965240</id>
	<title>Re:On par?</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1264844340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any Cortex A9 is going to be at 45nm or better... ARM only has it qualified at 45nm, 40nm, and 28nm.</p><p>Of course, it's conjecture right now that they're using an A9 core, also whether its a single 1GHz core or more cores.. at 40nm or 45nm, they could handle two cores without making this an overly large chip. If PA Semi took an ARM Architecture license, they could have done like Qualcomm and tweaked up the A8 to higher performance. I have heard all the rumors going around, but nothing confirmed. And, other than by investigating in software (A8s and A9s will take a different number of cycles to complete various benchmarks, and something somewhat different would show up here, too) Apple may never reveal the answer. They like to be mysterious. There's no reason they couldn't use the A9... it's fully backward code compatible with the A8 and the ARM11 (used in the 3GS and all other iPhones, respectively).</p><p>Same with the rumors that they're using an ARM MALI 50 for the GPU... that actually looks weaker than the PowerVR core used in the iPhone 3GS. Apple has already admitted that they see iPhone gaming as a big market (no joke... there are more games for the iPhone than for Sony PSP or Nintendo GS)... this ought to translate to the iPad, too. Maybe a MALI 400 or one of the higher-end PowerVR cores (like the one Intel uses in their low-end PC chipsets... weak for a PC, but still an upgrade from the iPhone). None of these are Nintendo class, though.</p><p>What we do know: the iPad battery is 25Whr. If they're claiming "up to 10 hours" of life, then one must assume the minimum power draw for useful work is 2.5W.. otherwise they'd be claiming more. The CPU is only a small bit of that power consumption.</p><p>The Tegra2 pulls an average 500mW running its two dual 1GHz ARM Cortex A9s, on a 40nm SOC. Considerably less power just playing back full 1080p high def video, somewhere around 200mW. Current tablet/phone chipsets can draw over a watt playing back high-def video, because there so much more CPU involvement.. that kind of  tracks Apple's numbers here for battery life. The nVidia releases all say things like "12+ hours of HD video playback", but obviously, this depends on the whole system... the LCD display can use much more power, if you're not careful. The demo unit nVidia was showing off claimed 16 hours of HD playback, 140 hours of music playback, on a single charge. At least some of the various companies showing off Tegra 2 tablet computers at CES were making similar claims, but I don't know for certain if MSI was one of them.</p><p>So yeah, it's very, very believable that the MSI unit, or any Tegra2 based tablet, will dramatically outlast the iPad doing the same kind of things. It's also quite possible that some will not. If you push it (it's fast enough to run the Unreal 3 engine at the typical 1280x768 resolutions you find on tablet computers), it's going to eat power much faster than just reading a book or playing a movie. This GPU is similar to the GeForce 6000 series, the claim is that it's 2x-3x as fast as the unit in the orginal Tegra chipset.</p><p>I'll be shocked if Apple's annual iPhone upgrade doesn't include at least one model running the A4 CPU, perhaps at a slightly lower clock speed. NVidia is also working to put the Tegra 2 into this years smart phones. Pretty cool stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any Cortex A9 is going to be at 45nm or better... ARM only has it qualified at 45nm , 40nm , and 28nm.Of course , it 's conjecture right now that they 're using an A9 core , also whether its a single 1GHz core or more cores.. at 40nm or 45nm , they could handle two cores without making this an overly large chip .
If PA Semi took an ARM Architecture license , they could have done like Qualcomm and tweaked up the A8 to higher performance .
I have heard all the rumors going around , but nothing confirmed .
And , other than by investigating in software ( A8s and A9s will take a different number of cycles to complete various benchmarks , and something somewhat different would show up here , too ) Apple may never reveal the answer .
They like to be mysterious .
There 's no reason they could n't use the A9... it 's fully backward code compatible with the A8 and the ARM11 ( used in the 3GS and all other iPhones , respectively ) .Same with the rumors that they 're using an ARM MALI 50 for the GPU... that actually looks weaker than the PowerVR core used in the iPhone 3GS .
Apple has already admitted that they see iPhone gaming as a big market ( no joke... there are more games for the iPhone than for Sony PSP or Nintendo GS ) ... this ought to translate to the iPad , too .
Maybe a MALI 400 or one of the higher-end PowerVR cores ( like the one Intel uses in their low-end PC chipsets... weak for a PC , but still an upgrade from the iPhone ) .
None of these are Nintendo class , though.What we do know : the iPad battery is 25Whr .
If they 're claiming " up to 10 hours " of life , then one must assume the minimum power draw for useful work is 2.5W.. otherwise they 'd be claiming more .
The CPU is only a small bit of that power consumption.The Tegra2 pulls an average 500mW running its two dual 1GHz ARM Cortex A9s , on a 40nm SOC .
Considerably less power just playing back full 1080p high def video , somewhere around 200mW .
Current tablet/phone chipsets can draw over a watt playing back high-def video , because there so much more CPU involvement.. that kind of tracks Apple 's numbers here for battery life .
The nVidia releases all say things like " 12 + hours of HD video playback " , but obviously , this depends on the whole system... the LCD display can use much more power , if you 're not careful .
The demo unit nVidia was showing off claimed 16 hours of HD playback , 140 hours of music playback , on a single charge .
At least some of the various companies showing off Tegra 2 tablet computers at CES were making similar claims , but I do n't know for certain if MSI was one of them.So yeah , it 's very , very believable that the MSI unit , or any Tegra2 based tablet , will dramatically outlast the iPad doing the same kind of things .
It 's also quite possible that some will not .
If you push it ( it 's fast enough to run the Unreal 3 engine at the typical 1280x768 resolutions you find on tablet computers ) , it 's going to eat power much faster than just reading a book or playing a movie .
This GPU is similar to the GeForce 6000 series , the claim is that it 's 2x-3x as fast as the unit in the orginal Tegra chipset.I 'll be shocked if Apple 's annual iPhone upgrade does n't include at least one model running the A4 CPU , perhaps at a slightly lower clock speed .
NVidia is also working to put the Tegra 2 into this years smart phones .
Pretty cool stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any Cortex A9 is going to be at 45nm or better... ARM only has it qualified at 45nm, 40nm, and 28nm.Of course, it's conjecture right now that they're using an A9 core, also whether its a single 1GHz core or more cores.. at 40nm or 45nm, they could handle two cores without making this an overly large chip.
If PA Semi took an ARM Architecture license, they could have done like Qualcomm and tweaked up the A8 to higher performance.
I have heard all the rumors going around, but nothing confirmed.
And, other than by investigating in software (A8s and A9s will take a different number of cycles to complete various benchmarks, and something somewhat different would show up here, too) Apple may never reveal the answer.
They like to be mysterious.
There's no reason they couldn't use the A9... it's fully backward code compatible with the A8 and the ARM11 (used in the 3GS and all other iPhones, respectively).Same with the rumors that they're using an ARM MALI 50 for the GPU... that actually looks weaker than the PowerVR core used in the iPhone 3GS.
Apple has already admitted that they see iPhone gaming as a big market (no joke... there are more games for the iPhone than for Sony PSP or Nintendo GS)... this ought to translate to the iPad, too.
Maybe a MALI 400 or one of the higher-end PowerVR cores (like the one Intel uses in their low-end PC chipsets... weak for a PC, but still an upgrade from the iPhone).
None of these are Nintendo class, though.What we do know: the iPad battery is 25Whr.
If they're claiming "up to 10 hours" of life, then one must assume the minimum power draw for useful work is 2.5W.. otherwise they'd be claiming more.
The CPU is only a small bit of that power consumption.The Tegra2 pulls an average 500mW running its two dual 1GHz ARM Cortex A9s, on a 40nm SOC.
Considerably less power just playing back full 1080p high def video, somewhere around 200mW.
Current tablet/phone chipsets can draw over a watt playing back high-def video, because there so much more CPU involvement.. that kind of  tracks Apple's numbers here for battery life.
The nVidia releases all say things like "12+ hours of HD video playback", but obviously, this depends on the whole system... the LCD display can use much more power, if you're not careful.
The demo unit nVidia was showing off claimed 16 hours of HD playback, 140 hours of music playback, on a single charge.
At least some of the various companies showing off Tegra 2 tablet computers at CES were making similar claims, but I don't know for certain if MSI was one of them.So yeah, it's very, very believable that the MSI unit, or any Tegra2 based tablet, will dramatically outlast the iPad doing the same kind of things.
It's also quite possible that some will not.
If you push it (it's fast enough to run the Unreal 3 engine at the typical 1280x768 resolutions you find on tablet computers), it's going to eat power much faster than just reading a book or playing a movie.
This GPU is similar to the GeForce 6000 series, the claim is that it's 2x-3x as fast as the unit in the orginal Tegra chipset.I'll be shocked if Apple's annual iPhone upgrade doesn't include at least one model running the A4 CPU, perhaps at a slightly lower clock speed.
NVidia is also working to put the Tegra 2 into this years smart phones.
Pretty cool stuff.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951894</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>ickleberry</author>
	<datestamp>1264789980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Touch screen is overrated, give me a good clit mouse any day
<a href="http://www.iamboredr.com/files/2705b9d520fd.jpg" title="iamboredr.com">clit mouse</a> [iamboredr.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Touch screen is overrated , give me a good clit mouse any day clit mouse [ iamboredr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Touch screen is overrated, give me a good clit mouse any day
clit mouse [iamboredr.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30955978</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1264763580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First solution, get rid of the Yaris and the friend that owns it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First solution , get rid of the Yaris and the friend that owns it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First solution, get rid of the Yaris and the friend that owns it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953052</id>
	<title>And?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264794420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You people are acting like there aren't 10 other alternatives already out there.</p><p>It's not like Apple invented some amazing new concept called a Tablet PC. Then of course there's Netbooks, MIDs, and UMPCs as well.</p><p>The masses think Apple is some sort of genius company whose unique inventions everyone copies, and articles like this only reinforce that misguided viewpoint.</p><p>We should be trying to educate and instruct the masses, show them that really, they're not getting anything special, just a sleek case and a $200 price jack up over an equivalent model.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You people are acting like there are n't 10 other alternatives already out there.It 's not like Apple invented some amazing new concept called a Tablet PC .
Then of course there 's Netbooks , MIDs , and UMPCs as well.The masses think Apple is some sort of genius company whose unique inventions everyone copies , and articles like this only reinforce that misguided viewpoint.We should be trying to educate and instruct the masses , show them that really , they 're not getting anything special , just a sleek case and a $ 200 price jack up over an equivalent model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You people are acting like there aren't 10 other alternatives already out there.It's not like Apple invented some amazing new concept called a Tablet PC.
Then of course there's Netbooks, MIDs, and UMPCs as well.The masses think Apple is some sort of genius company whose unique inventions everyone copies, and articles like this only reinforce that misguided viewpoint.We should be trying to educate and instruct the masses, show them that really, they're not getting anything special, just a sleek case and a $200 price jack up over an equivalent model.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953914</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>adisakp</author>
	<datestamp>1264798560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>A couple points.<p><div class="quote"><p>I don't need a camera.</p></div><p>

Skype/VOIP etc is going to be enabled over 3G as well as WIFI.  A simple front-mounted camera for video chat support would have been nice.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I need multi-tasking.</p></div><p>

Most people are not going to do serious multitasking on a tablet - but they will occasionally switch from one app to check something else out and then switch back.  If you can suspend your app *AND* return to your previous state in it easily, that should be good enough.  It's the lack of consistent "return to previous state" for iPhone apps that make the multi-tasking seem like it would be necessary.  We don't need true "multitasking" of running processes in the background for the most part (push msgs where you can return to previous state should work fine for most people) and Apple can enable the background processing for apps that need it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I want an SD or USB port</p></div><p>

I agree both of those should be build in.  You can get them but they're ugly dongles that attach to the iPod Dock connector.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A couple points.I do n't need a camera .
Skype/VOIP etc is going to be enabled over 3G as well as WIFI .
A simple front-mounted camera for video chat support would have been nice.I need multi-tasking .
Most people are not going to do serious multitasking on a tablet - but they will occasionally switch from one app to check something else out and then switch back .
If you can suspend your app * AND * return to your previous state in it easily , that should be good enough .
It 's the lack of consistent " return to previous state " for iPhone apps that make the multi-tasking seem like it would be necessary .
We do n't need true " multitasking " of running processes in the background for the most part ( push msgs where you can return to previous state should work fine for most people ) and Apple can enable the background processing for apps that need it.I want an SD or USB port I agree both of those should be build in .
You can get them but they 're ugly dongles that attach to the iPod Dock connector .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A couple points.I don't need a camera.
Skype/VOIP etc is going to be enabled over 3G as well as WIFI.
A simple front-mounted camera for video chat support would have been nice.I need multi-tasking.
Most people are not going to do serious multitasking on a tablet - but they will occasionally switch from one app to check something else out and then switch back.
If you can suspend your app *AND* return to your previous state in it easily, that should be good enough.
It's the lack of consistent "return to previous state" for iPhone apps that make the multi-tasking seem like it would be necessary.
We don't need true "multitasking" of running processes in the background for the most part (push msgs where you can return to previous state should work fine for most people) and Apple can enable the background processing for apps that need it.I want an SD or USB port

I agree both of those should be build in.
You can get them but they're ugly dongles that attach to the iPod Dock connector.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951288</id>
	<title>Yes, it would</title>
	<author>Voulnet</author>
	<datestamp>1264787940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>An MSI tablet running Android would definitely induce drool for me. Android is on the extreme end of the stick against Apple's OS in terms of openness, and so it helps to have an open competitor in the face of a totalitarian locked-down sorry excuse of a computing device.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... As long as Android's problems are addressed at a quicker rate.

Even having said so, the iPad will not be popular because of its usefullness or usability for the most part, but because of brand power.

For an Android tablet to fight that, it really has to exceed the iPad (LOL) in all aspects.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An MSI tablet running Android would definitely induce drool for me .
Android is on the extreme end of the stick against Apple 's OS in terms of openness , and so it helps to have an open competitor in the face of a totalitarian locked-down sorry excuse of a computing device .
... As long as Android 's problems are addressed at a quicker rate .
Even having said so , the iPad will not be popular because of its usefullness or usability for the most part , but because of brand power .
For an Android tablet to fight that , it really has to exceed the iPad ( LOL ) in all aspects .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An MSI tablet running Android would definitely induce drool for me.
Android is on the extreme end of the stick against Apple's OS in terms of openness, and so it helps to have an open competitor in the face of a totalitarian locked-down sorry excuse of a computing device.
... As long as Android's problems are addressed at a quicker rate.
Even having said so, the iPad will not be popular because of its usefullness or usability for the most part, but because of brand power.
For an Android tablet to fight that, it really has to exceed the iPad (LOL) in all aspects.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953982</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1264755660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Apple isn't positioning the iPad as a replacement for a full-function computer, and instead is thinking of it more as an appliance."</p><p>OK, but appliances usually do useful things like keeping food cold or washing clothes. Merely removing features from a general purpose computer does not an appliance make.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Apple is n't positioning the iPad as a replacement for a full-function computer , and instead is thinking of it more as an appliance .
" OK , but appliances usually do useful things like keeping food cold or washing clothes .
Merely removing features from a general purpose computer does not an appliance make .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Apple isn't positioning the iPad as a replacement for a full-function computer, and instead is thinking of it more as an appliance.
"OK, but appliances usually do useful things like keeping food cold or washing clothes.
Merely removing features from a general purpose computer does not an appliance make.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952662</id>
	<title>Active digitizer</title>
	<author>TheTick21</author>
	<datestamp>1264792740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do any of these makers have one with an active digitizer? I really like taking notes with a pen (for drawing etc) during meetings. Replacing my current convertible tablet with a mini-slate running android would be awesome.</p><p>Pen input? Does anyone know? I haven't yet found one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do any of these makers have one with an active digitizer ?
I really like taking notes with a pen ( for drawing etc ) during meetings .
Replacing my current convertible tablet with a mini-slate running android would be awesome.Pen input ?
Does anyone know ?
I have n't yet found one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do any of these makers have one with an active digitizer?
I really like taking notes with a pen (for drawing etc) during meetings.
Replacing my current convertible tablet with a mini-slate running android would be awesome.Pen input?
Does anyone know?
I haven't yet found one.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30956812</id>
	<title>Re:Only if it has an IPS panel.</title>
	<author>sethstorm</author>
	<datestamp>1264767180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's the only positive I have for it.  If it uses a standard panel interface, just find yourself an inverter and a board to convert the signal into something useful.</p><p>Use the panel, sell the rest of the parts on Ebay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the only positive I have for it .
If it uses a standard panel interface , just find yourself an inverter and a board to convert the signal into something useful.Use the panel , sell the rest of the parts on Ebay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the only positive I have for it.
If it uses a standard panel interface, just find yourself an inverter and a board to convert the signal into something useful.Use the panel, sell the rest of the parts on Ebay.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.31066182</id>
	<title>ONSCREEN KEYBOARD</title>
	<author>XLR8DST8</author>
	<datestamp>1265628180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>duh?</htmltext>
<tokenext>duh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>duh?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951742</id>
	<title>Why Ipad will not make it</title>
	<author>Device666</author>
	<datestamp>1264789440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ipad will not be successful. geeks will tell you Ipad lacks a camera, tethering etc. But the mainstream will not buy it at large: you cannot read books in sunlight, it has a very low browsing experience (no tabbed browsing, no flash plugin support). And in the sunlight you can't use the device. How phenomenal is unusable?
<br> <br>
The really cool apps will be on android. Innovation needs open systems, it simple doesn't work in closed software, hardware and distribution systems. For instance <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/notion-ink-adam-stripped-bare-and-our-in-depth-video-hands-on/" title="engadget.com"> notions ink device </a> [engadget.com] looks like the Ipad and runs android and has a color screen which is readable in direct sunlight. It has even all the things that geeks miss in the Ipad, camera microphone etc. tabbed browsing, flash support. Check the video at the bottom of the linked page. That's phenomenal!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ipad will not be successful .
geeks will tell you Ipad lacks a camera , tethering etc .
But the mainstream will not buy it at large : you can not read books in sunlight , it has a very low browsing experience ( no tabbed browsing , no flash plugin support ) .
And in the sunlight you ca n't use the device .
How phenomenal is unusable ?
The really cool apps will be on android .
Innovation needs open systems , it simple does n't work in closed software , hardware and distribution systems .
For instance notions ink device [ engadget.com ] looks like the Ipad and runs android and has a color screen which is readable in direct sunlight .
It has even all the things that geeks miss in the Ipad , camera microphone etc .
tabbed browsing , flash support .
Check the video at the bottom of the linked page .
That 's phenomenal !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ipad will not be successful.
geeks will tell you Ipad lacks a camera, tethering etc.
But the mainstream will not buy it at large: you cannot read books in sunlight, it has a very low browsing experience (no tabbed browsing, no flash plugin support).
And in the sunlight you can't use the device.
How phenomenal is unusable?
The really cool apps will be on android.
Innovation needs open systems, it simple doesn't work in closed software, hardware and distribution systems.
For instance  notions ink device  [engadget.com] looks like the Ipad and runs android and has a color screen which is readable in direct sunlight.
It has even all the things that geeks miss in the Ipad, camera microphone etc.
tabbed browsing, flash support.
Check the video at the bottom of the linked page.
That's phenomenal!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951158</id>
	<title>Re:Asking the wrong question</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1264787520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And that it looks nice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And that it looks nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that it looks nice.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30958104</id>
	<title>Multitouch has downsides</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1264774800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AIUI, the kind of screen needed for multitouch is also less accurate, so there's a trade-off. It's not all nicer.</p><p>And I want a device that works, rather than having to memorise complex justifies. "One mouse button is simpler" -this is even more true on portable devices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AIUI , the kind of screen needed for multitouch is also less accurate , so there 's a trade-off .
It 's not all nicer.And I want a device that works , rather than having to memorise complex justifies .
" One mouse button is simpler " -this is even more true on portable devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AIUI, the kind of screen needed for multitouch is also less accurate, so there's a trade-off.
It's not all nicer.And I want a device that works, rather than having to memorise complex justifies.
"One mouse button is simpler" -this is even more true on portable devices.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954622</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264758180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPad has a few other things as well:<br>- 0.5 lbs vs 1.5<br>- 0.5" thick vs 1-1.5"<br>- 10 hour battery life vs 6<br>- You can use it while walking<br>- Nicer display</p><p>For some people, this is going to matter. Sure, if you were to have only *one* computer, the netbook would look better. But if you already have a computer, and you want to lug around something that gives you Internet access or lets you take notes or whatever, the iPad is significantly more portable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPad has a few other things as well : - 0.5 lbs vs 1.5- 0.5 " thick vs 1-1.5 " - 10 hour battery life vs 6- You can use it while walking- Nicer displayFor some people , this is going to matter .
Sure , if you were to have only * one * computer , the netbook would look better .
But if you already have a computer , and you want to lug around something that gives you Internet access or lets you take notes or whatever , the iPad is significantly more portable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPad has a few other things as well:- 0.5 lbs vs 1.5- 0.5" thick vs 1-1.5"- 10 hour battery life vs 6- You can use it while walking- Nicer displayFor some people, this is going to matter.
Sure, if you were to have only *one* computer, the netbook would look better.
But if you already have a computer, and you want to lug around something that gives you Internet access or lets you take notes or whatever, the iPad is significantly more portable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30956252</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>locallyunscene</author>
	<datestamp>1264764780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since we're making wish lists,

Multi-task(as an option at least)
Multi-touch(IMO it makes navigating much easier)
Long battery life(iPad length would be fine)
Some standard ports, video out, usb, headphones,mic, hd out would be nice but not needed
Open OS</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since we 're making wish lists , Multi-task ( as an option at least ) Multi-touch ( IMO it makes navigating much easier ) Long battery life ( iPad length would be fine ) Some standard ports , video out , usb , headphones,mic , hd out would be nice but not needed Open OS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since we're making wish lists,

Multi-task(as an option at least)
Multi-touch(IMO it makes navigating much easier)
Long battery life(iPad length would be fine)
Some standard ports, video out, usb, headphones,mic, hd out would be nice but not needed
Open OS</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951168</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>Terrasque</author>
	<datestamp>1264787520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe something like <a href="http://tablepromos.com/images/Notepad\%20with\%20Pen.jpg" title="tablepromos.com">this</a> [tablepromos.com] instead?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe something like this [ tablepromos.com ] instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe something like this [tablepromos.com] instead?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950680</id>
	<title>On Par?</title>
	<author>TheKidWho</author>
	<datestamp>1264785900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Highly doubt the Tegra 2 is on par with the A4, unless the A4 has a dual-core Cortex A9... Info suggests the A4 is only a single core Cortex A9 which would make the Tegra2 at least 2x more powerful.  Not to mention Nvidia vs ARM based graphics core.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Highly doubt the Tegra 2 is on par with the A4 , unless the A4 has a dual-core Cortex A9... Info suggests the A4 is only a single core Cortex A9 which would make the Tegra2 at least 2x more powerful .
Not to mention Nvidia vs ARM based graphics core .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Highly doubt the Tegra 2 is on par with the A4, unless the A4 has a dual-core Cortex A9... Info suggests the A4 is only a single core Cortex A9 which would make the Tegra2 at least 2x more powerful.
Not to mention Nvidia vs ARM based graphics core.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954870</id>
	<title>Re:Only if it has an IPS panel.</title>
	<author>MrHanky</author>
	<datestamp>1264759020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An IPS panel is certainly neat, but as you can't really use the ipad for anything that actually demands that kind of screen, you're just grasping for positives. And the IPS panel is the only thing the ipad has going for it. It's the most overhyped product since the Segway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An IPS panel is certainly neat , but as you ca n't really use the ipad for anything that actually demands that kind of screen , you 're just grasping for positives .
And the IPS panel is the only thing the ipad has going for it .
It 's the most overhyped product since the Segway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An IPS panel is certainly neat, but as you can't really use the ipad for anything that actually demands that kind of screen, you're just grasping for positives.
And the IPS panel is the only thing the ipad has going for it.
It's the most overhyped product since the Segway.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951108</id>
	<title>Re:On Par?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264787280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is what  hit me too. Apple's A$ certainly does NOT have ARM A9, otherwise they would brag about it. Most likely, the have a single core A8 if even that. After un-spinning "Ars Whatever suggests puts it on par with the iPad's A4" we get A4 is 3 times slower at CPU tasks, at least 4 times slower at video and who knows how many times slower at 3D... Heck, A4 can't even play 780p vs Nvidia's 1080p for the same battery life. I see a blatant deception campaign promoting Apple's inferior product. With measly $1 billion for R&amp;D Apple's does indeed need their $5 billion marketing budget for stealthy PR advertising. Paul Graham described the "technology" here:</p><p><a href="http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html" title="paulgraham.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html</a> [paulgraham.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is what hit me too .
Apple 's A $ certainly does NOT have ARM A9 , otherwise they would brag about it .
Most likely , the have a single core A8 if even that .
After un-spinning " Ars Whatever suggests puts it on par with the iPad 's A4 " we get A4 is 3 times slower at CPU tasks , at least 4 times slower at video and who knows how many times slower at 3D... Heck , A4 ca n't even play 780p vs Nvidia 's 1080p for the same battery life .
I see a blatant deception campaign promoting Apple 's inferior product .
With measly $ 1 billion for R&amp;D Apple 's does indeed need their $ 5 billion marketing budget for stealthy PR advertising .
Paul Graham described the " technology " here : http : //www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html [ paulgraham.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is what  hit me too.
Apple's A$ certainly does NOT have ARM A9, otherwise they would brag about it.
Most likely, the have a single core A8 if even that.
After un-spinning "Ars Whatever suggests puts it on par with the iPad's A4" we get A4 is 3 times slower at CPU tasks, at least 4 times slower at video and who knows how many times slower at 3D... Heck, A4 can't even play 780p vs Nvidia's 1080p for the same battery life.
I see a blatant deception campaign promoting Apple's inferior product.
With measly $1 billion for R&amp;D Apple's does indeed need their $5 billion marketing budget for stealthy PR advertising.
Paul Graham described the "technology" here:http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html [paulgraham.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30983454</id>
	<title>am I the only one...</title>
	<author>vuffi\_raa</author>
	<datestamp>1265049000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Am I the only one that is underwhelmed by android (and iphone OS)? I want a tablet that can dual boot ubuntu and win7 (or a full osx with boot camp could do as well) and is light and cheap with multitouch... you know something with the application support for what I want to do with it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one that is underwhelmed by android ( and iphone OS ) ?
I want a tablet that can dual boot ubuntu and win7 ( or a full osx with boot camp could do as well ) and is light and cheap with multitouch... you know something with the application support for what I want to do with it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one that is underwhelmed by android (and iphone OS)?
I want a tablet that can dual boot ubuntu and win7 (or a full osx with boot camp could do as well) and is light and cheap with multitouch... you know something with the application support for what I want to do with it?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30955992</id>
	<title>Apple gave you that list</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1264763640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I need multi-tasking.</i></p><p>You say that generally.  But for what?</p><p>The iPad can play music while you do other things (just like the iPhone).  It can get notifications, calendar entries can pop up, and it will be checking email in the background.</p><p>How much stuff REALLY needs to be running at the same time, vs. being quickly accessible?  With a device oriented to quickly launching applications, switching is not as painful as closing and reopening apps in a traditional computer, and lots of apps maintain state as to exactly where you were.  From day one that was supposed to be an important design goal for apps and as they mature most of them will support that well.</p><p><i>I prefer to have a modable interface to save CPU/Battery power (less is more)</i></p><p>But that's exactly what Apple has optimized the hell out of.  The 10 hour battery life stated is listed on the store as being 10 hours of playing video or browsing the web.  What exactly would you customize to further improve battery?</p><p><i>I want an SD or USB port</i></p><p>I can understand the SD port (want one myself) but at least there is an adaptor.  And the standard dock cable goes into USB at the other end.  I'm not sure what USB device you were thinking to plug into it, but you can use a keyboard or headset over bluetooth, and print via WiFi...  There are also existing apps for the iPhone that you can treat it as WebDAV storage.  I used that to backup photos from a trip to my iPhone even without any kind of SD adaptor.</p><p><i>I need a text and email program.</i></p><p>It ships with email and if you take a look at the Pages demo that's a great word processing program for a touch device.</p><p><i>I need it to be less than $600.</i></p><p>Well, they have you covered...</p><p><i>I don't care what anyone else wants nor how successful the company will be (or if it "wins" in the tablet arena)</i></p><p>I don't either.  I want the iPad because I think it's going to be quite useful, especially for working on a plane.  Finally a device you can use in coach with a seat folded down in front of you.  And yes, I plan to get some coding done on the device thank you very much... if you don't think a programming editor is practical I don't think you have enough imagination.  Modern editors already have extensive code completion, it's not like you are typing that much anyway compared to thinking about what you are going to type.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I need multi-tasking.You say that generally .
But for what ? The iPad can play music while you do other things ( just like the iPhone ) .
It can get notifications , calendar entries can pop up , and it will be checking email in the background.How much stuff REALLY needs to be running at the same time , vs. being quickly accessible ?
With a device oriented to quickly launching applications , switching is not as painful as closing and reopening apps in a traditional computer , and lots of apps maintain state as to exactly where you were .
From day one that was supposed to be an important design goal for apps and as they mature most of them will support that well.I prefer to have a modable interface to save CPU/Battery power ( less is more ) But that 's exactly what Apple has optimized the hell out of .
The 10 hour battery life stated is listed on the store as being 10 hours of playing video or browsing the web .
What exactly would you customize to further improve battery ? I want an SD or USB portI can understand the SD port ( want one myself ) but at least there is an adaptor .
And the standard dock cable goes into USB at the other end .
I 'm not sure what USB device you were thinking to plug into it , but you can use a keyboard or headset over bluetooth , and print via WiFi... There are also existing apps for the iPhone that you can treat it as WebDAV storage .
I used that to backup photos from a trip to my iPhone even without any kind of SD adaptor.I need a text and email program.It ships with email and if you take a look at the Pages demo that 's a great word processing program for a touch device.I need it to be less than $ 600.Well , they have you covered...I do n't care what anyone else wants nor how successful the company will be ( or if it " wins " in the tablet arena ) I do n't either .
I want the iPad because I think it 's going to be quite useful , especially for working on a plane .
Finally a device you can use in coach with a seat folded down in front of you .
And yes , I plan to get some coding done on the device thank you very much... if you do n't think a programming editor is practical I do n't think you have enough imagination .
Modern editors already have extensive code completion , it 's not like you are typing that much anyway compared to thinking about what you are going to type .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I need multi-tasking.You say that generally.
But for what?The iPad can play music while you do other things (just like the iPhone).
It can get notifications, calendar entries can pop up, and it will be checking email in the background.How much stuff REALLY needs to be running at the same time, vs. being quickly accessible?
With a device oriented to quickly launching applications, switching is not as painful as closing and reopening apps in a traditional computer, and lots of apps maintain state as to exactly where you were.
From day one that was supposed to be an important design goal for apps and as they mature most of them will support that well.I prefer to have a modable interface to save CPU/Battery power (less is more)But that's exactly what Apple has optimized the hell out of.
The 10 hour battery life stated is listed on the store as being 10 hours of playing video or browsing the web.
What exactly would you customize to further improve battery?I want an SD or USB portI can understand the SD port (want one myself) but at least there is an adaptor.
And the standard dock cable goes into USB at the other end.
I'm not sure what USB device you were thinking to plug into it, but you can use a keyboard or headset over bluetooth, and print via WiFi...  There are also existing apps for the iPhone that you can treat it as WebDAV storage.
I used that to backup photos from a trip to my iPhone even without any kind of SD adaptor.I need a text and email program.It ships with email and if you take a look at the Pages demo that's a great word processing program for a touch device.I need it to be less than $600.Well, they have you covered...I don't care what anyone else wants nor how successful the company will be (or if it "wins" in the tablet arena)I don't either.
I want the iPad because I think it's going to be quite useful, especially for working on a plane.
Finally a device you can use in coach with a seat folded down in front of you.
And yes, I plan to get some coding done on the device thank you very much... if you don't think a programming editor is practical I don't think you have enough imagination.
Modern editors already have extensive code completion, it's not like you are typing that much anyway compared to thinking about what you are going to type.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264759080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mostly agree, but one note:  The iPhone 3GS has 256MB of RAM (I think, I don't have one myself).  Given that apps on this device are going to need to handle more screen real estate I'd be surprised if that isn't bumped up to 512 on the iPad, although I don't think there's been any official word on that yet.</p><p>Also, be wary of comparing GHz ratings of different CPU architectures.  We don't know yet how the A4 will benchmark, but my guess is that it'll be comparable to the Atom chips found in Netbooks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mostly agree , but one note : The iPhone 3GS has 256MB of RAM ( I think , I do n't have one myself ) .
Given that apps on this device are going to need to handle more screen real estate I 'd be surprised if that is n't bumped up to 512 on the iPad , although I do n't think there 's been any official word on that yet.Also , be wary of comparing GHz ratings of different CPU architectures .
We do n't know yet how the A4 will benchmark , but my guess is that it 'll be comparable to the Atom chips found in Netbooks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mostly agree, but one note:  The iPhone 3GS has 256MB of RAM (I think, I don't have one myself).
Given that apps on this device are going to need to handle more screen real estate I'd be surprised if that isn't bumped up to 512 on the iPad, although I don't think there's been any official word on that yet.Also, be wary of comparing GHz ratings of different CPU architectures.
We don't know yet how the A4 will benchmark, but my guess is that it'll be comparable to the Atom chips found in Netbooks.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950700</id>
	<title>Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>aussersterne</author>
	<datestamp>1264785900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not about "do more things," it's about "do very few things better."</p><p>That's why Apple wins.</p><p>My wife asked about the iPad last night (she owns a netbook right now) and now she's drooling over one. Why? It doesn't have "files." It doesn't have "windows." She won't have to worry about "flash drives." And so on. She was so excited about all the things it didn't have (and that she therefore didn't have to worry about) that she was disappointed when I told her they weren't in the Apple Store in Manhattan yet.</p><p>Meanwhile, the geeks are running around blasting Apple products for all the things they "don't have" and recommending complex alternatives.</p><p>That's why Apple is making $$$ these days. Because they're removing 60 percent of the features and making the remaining 40 percent configuration free and so polished they make your eyes hurt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not about " do more things , " it 's about " do very few things better .
" That 's why Apple wins.My wife asked about the iPad last night ( she owns a netbook right now ) and now she 's drooling over one .
Why ? It does n't have " files .
" It does n't have " windows .
" She wo n't have to worry about " flash drives .
" And so on .
She was so excited about all the things it did n't have ( and that she therefore did n't have to worry about ) that she was disappointed when I told her they were n't in the Apple Store in Manhattan yet.Meanwhile , the geeks are running around blasting Apple products for all the things they " do n't have " and recommending complex alternatives.That 's why Apple is making $ $ $ these days .
Because they 're removing 60 percent of the features and making the remaining 40 percent configuration free and so polished they make your eyes hurt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not about "do more things," it's about "do very few things better.
"That's why Apple wins.My wife asked about the iPad last night (she owns a netbook right now) and now she's drooling over one.
Why? It doesn't have "files.
" It doesn't have "windows.
" She won't have to worry about "flash drives.
" And so on.
She was so excited about all the things it didn't have (and that she therefore didn't have to worry about) that she was disappointed when I told her they weren't in the Apple Store in Manhattan yet.Meanwhile, the geeks are running around blasting Apple products for all the things they "don't have" and recommending complex alternatives.That's why Apple is making $$$ these days.
Because they're removing 60 percent of the features and making the remaining 40 percent configuration free and so polished they make your eyes hurt.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954358</id>
	<title>Target Market</title>
	<author>UnknowingFool</author>
	<datestamp>1264757100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thing that geeks here on slashdot don't seem to understand is the concept of "target market".  Often times they assume that just because a product doesn't have some geek feature that they would like, they think the product cannot possibly succeed in the larger population in general.  Geeks here on slashdot want certain features.  Some of them want more control and configurability. These are not bad things; but geeks here have to understand that they are not everyone.  General consumers want different things.</p><p>Where Apple has succeeded in the past, contrary to the dire predictions of geeks, is that Apple does not design their products for geeks.  They design their products for a target audience.  Most of their products are designed for average consumers.</p><p>MP3 players existed before Apple.  When Apple entered the market, there were two distinct categories:  large HD players with GB capacities that were the size of portable CD players and smaller pocket-sized flash RAM players that could hold at most 128MB.  While the iPod didn't have all the technical features that geeks here wanted (some of which were not included in other players for years), Apple focused on other aspects which appealed to average consumers.  First it was only slightly larger than the flash RAM players but could nearly as much as the larger players.  Second, to get music onto a player back then was a pain which required the patience and know-how of a geek.  You had to find a ripper and then an encoder which was separate of the program that managed loading the music onto the player.  Apple worked on making the music transfer as simple as possible.  iTunes did all three.</p><p>Years ago, Apple released the MacBook Air.  This product was different from other Apple products as it was designed for a different target audience than the average consumer.  The MacBook is designed for average consumers; the Air is designed for road warriors who need a lighter computer and some computing needs.  But for most slashdot geeks, since it wasn't powerful to decode the human genome instanteously and at the same time, weighed more than a feather, they deemed it a failure.
</p><p>In 2007, Apple released the iPhone.  It was a smartphone designed for average consumers.  Unlike the Blackberry, the iPhone was not intended for business or corporate users.   Again, the exlusion of a long list of technical features slashdot geeks wanted meant it was doomed to fail.</p><p>Some of the same criticisms are being repeated again with the iPad:
</p><ul>
<li>"I can't modify anyway I want therefore it is doomed to fail.</li><li>"I can't use it to play Crysis therefore it is doomed to fail.</li><li>"I can't use it like a general purpose computer therefore it is doomed to fail.</li></ul><p>
Here's where I see this product's market:  Those who want more capabilities than a Kindle but not as much as a laptop.  Some examples that come of the top of my head:  School lessons, digital magazines, personal media players.  Basically, the iPad is an appliance not a computer.  </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing that geeks here on slashdot do n't seem to understand is the concept of " target market " .
Often times they assume that just because a product does n't have some geek feature that they would like , they think the product can not possibly succeed in the larger population in general .
Geeks here on slashdot want certain features .
Some of them want more control and configurability .
These are not bad things ; but geeks here have to understand that they are not everyone .
General consumers want different things.Where Apple has succeeded in the past , contrary to the dire predictions of geeks , is that Apple does not design their products for geeks .
They design their products for a target audience .
Most of their products are designed for average consumers.MP3 players existed before Apple .
When Apple entered the market , there were two distinct categories : large HD players with GB capacities that were the size of portable CD players and smaller pocket-sized flash RAM players that could hold at most 128MB .
While the iPod did n't have all the technical features that geeks here wanted ( some of which were not included in other players for years ) , Apple focused on other aspects which appealed to average consumers .
First it was only slightly larger than the flash RAM players but could nearly as much as the larger players .
Second , to get music onto a player back then was a pain which required the patience and know-how of a geek .
You had to find a ripper and then an encoder which was separate of the program that managed loading the music onto the player .
Apple worked on making the music transfer as simple as possible .
iTunes did all three.Years ago , Apple released the MacBook Air .
This product was different from other Apple products as it was designed for a different target audience than the average consumer .
The MacBook is designed for average consumers ; the Air is designed for road warriors who need a lighter computer and some computing needs .
But for most slashdot geeks , since it was n't powerful to decode the human genome instanteously and at the same time , weighed more than a feather , they deemed it a failure .
In 2007 , Apple released the iPhone .
It was a smartphone designed for average consumers .
Unlike the Blackberry , the iPhone was not intended for business or corporate users .
Again , the exlusion of a long list of technical features slashdot geeks wanted meant it was doomed to fail.Some of the same criticisms are being repeated again with the iPad : " I ca n't modify anyway I want therefore it is doomed to fail .
" I ca n't use it to play Crysis therefore it is doomed to fail .
" I ca n't use it like a general purpose computer therefore it is doomed to fail .
Here 's where I see this product 's market : Those who want more capabilities than a Kindle but not as much as a laptop .
Some examples that come of the top of my head : School lessons , digital magazines , personal media players .
Basically , the iPad is an appliance not a computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing that geeks here on slashdot don't seem to understand is the concept of "target market".
Often times they assume that just because a product doesn't have some geek feature that they would like, they think the product cannot possibly succeed in the larger population in general.
Geeks here on slashdot want certain features.
Some of them want more control and configurability.
These are not bad things; but geeks here have to understand that they are not everyone.
General consumers want different things.Where Apple has succeeded in the past, contrary to the dire predictions of geeks, is that Apple does not design their products for geeks.
They design their products for a target audience.
Most of their products are designed for average consumers.MP3 players existed before Apple.
When Apple entered the market, there were two distinct categories:  large HD players with GB capacities that were the size of portable CD players and smaller pocket-sized flash RAM players that could hold at most 128MB.
While the iPod didn't have all the technical features that geeks here wanted (some of which were not included in other players for years), Apple focused on other aspects which appealed to average consumers.
First it was only slightly larger than the flash RAM players but could nearly as much as the larger players.
Second, to get music onto a player back then was a pain which required the patience and know-how of a geek.
You had to find a ripper and then an encoder which was separate of the program that managed loading the music onto the player.
Apple worked on making the music transfer as simple as possible.
iTunes did all three.Years ago, Apple released the MacBook Air.
This product was different from other Apple products as it was designed for a different target audience than the average consumer.
The MacBook is designed for average consumers; the Air is designed for road warriors who need a lighter computer and some computing needs.
But for most slashdot geeks, since it wasn't powerful to decode the human genome instanteously and at the same time, weighed more than a feather, they deemed it a failure.
In 2007, Apple released the iPhone.
It was a smartphone designed for average consumers.
Unlike the Blackberry, the iPhone was not intended for business or corporate users.
Again, the exlusion of a long list of technical features slashdot geeks wanted meant it was doomed to fail.Some of the same criticisms are being repeated again with the iPad:

"I can't modify anyway I want therefore it is doomed to fail.
"I can't use it to play Crysis therefore it is doomed to fail.
"I can't use it like a general purpose computer therefore it is doomed to fail.
Here's where I see this product's market:  Those who want more capabilities than a Kindle but not as much as a laptop.
Some examples that come of the top of my head:  School lessons, digital magazines, personal media players.
Basically, the iPad is an appliance not a computer.  </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950792</id>
	<title>Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>slim</author>
	<datestamp>1264786200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Touch interfaces are nice. And multi touch is nicer.</p><p>I had to go back from a touchscreen TomTom satnav to a non-touchscreen Garmin -- it just felt unwieldy.</p><p>Once I'd used an iPod Touch for a while, I kept wanting to pinch-zoom the map on the TomTom.</p><p>There are certain things that just feel nice with mult-touch, and it also saves space by doing away with a trackpad.</p><p>As a frivolous example - a game like Crayon Physics will be tremendously more satisfying on a touch tablet, than when played with a mouse. But things like photo browsers, drawing apps, etc. will also benefit.</p><p>They need to solve the problem of so many things needing text entry, though. Decent handwriting recognition is surely the answer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Touch interfaces are nice .
And multi touch is nicer.I had to go back from a touchscreen TomTom satnav to a non-touchscreen Garmin -- it just felt unwieldy.Once I 'd used an iPod Touch for a while , I kept wanting to pinch-zoom the map on the TomTom.There are certain things that just feel nice with mult-touch , and it also saves space by doing away with a trackpad.As a frivolous example - a game like Crayon Physics will be tremendously more satisfying on a touch tablet , than when played with a mouse .
But things like photo browsers , drawing apps , etc .
will also benefit.They need to solve the problem of so many things needing text entry , though .
Decent handwriting recognition is surely the answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Touch interfaces are nice.
And multi touch is nicer.I had to go back from a touchscreen TomTom satnav to a non-touchscreen Garmin -- it just felt unwieldy.Once I'd used an iPod Touch for a while, I kept wanting to pinch-zoom the map on the TomTom.There are certain things that just feel nice with mult-touch, and it also saves space by doing away with a trackpad.As a frivolous example - a game like Crayon Physics will be tremendously more satisfying on a touch tablet, than when played with a mouse.
But things like photo browsers, drawing apps, etc.
will also benefit.They need to solve the problem of so many things needing text entry, though.
Decent handwriting recognition is surely the answer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951514</id>
	<title>Windows XP Interface?</title>
	<author>Beerdood</author>
	<datestamp>1264788660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Read another article <a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/kit-eaton/technomix/meet-chinese-ipad-clone-three-months-ago-and-msis-future-one" title="fastcompany.com" rel="nofollow"> here </a> [fastcompany.com] on it, and it's supposed to have a windows XP interface (if you couldn't tell from the video).  I can (sort of) understand why the apple fans want their iPad instead of a notebook / laptop - mostly because of the simple interface / simplicity.  <br> <br>
Why anyone would buy this instead of a desktop / laptop is beyond me.  What's their advertising campaign going to be?  "For $450, you can get a device with a 16-64 gig hard drive, 1 gig of ram, and no built in keyboard!  It's also slightly cheaper than an iPad, so you may be able to fool your friends into thinking you have an iPad because it kind of looks like same!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Read another article here [ fastcompany.com ] on it , and it 's supposed to have a windows XP interface ( if you could n't tell from the video ) .
I can ( sort of ) understand why the apple fans want their iPad instead of a notebook / laptop - mostly because of the simple interface / simplicity .
Why anyone would buy this instead of a desktop / laptop is beyond me .
What 's their advertising campaign going to be ?
" For $ 450 , you can get a device with a 16-64 gig hard drive , 1 gig of ram , and no built in keyboard !
It 's also slightly cheaper than an iPad , so you may be able to fool your friends into thinking you have an iPad because it kind of looks like same !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read another article  here  [fastcompany.com] on it, and it's supposed to have a windows XP interface (if you couldn't tell from the video).
I can (sort of) understand why the apple fans want their iPad instead of a notebook / laptop - mostly because of the simple interface / simplicity.
Why anyone would buy this instead of a desktop / laptop is beyond me.
What's their advertising campaign going to be?
"For $450, you can get a device with a 16-64 gig hard drive, 1 gig of ram, and no built in keyboard!
It's also slightly cheaper than an iPad, so you may be able to fool your friends into thinking you have an iPad because it kind of looks like same!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953260</id>
	<title>And for the rest of the world...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264795200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fact that the iPad has no Flash and that that  makes it impossible to watch Hulu on it is moot since the rest of the world, you know, that fairly big part of it that isn't the US, is not allowed to watch the shows on Hulu anyway...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that the iPad has no Flash and that that makes it impossible to watch Hulu on it is moot since the rest of the world , you know , that fairly big part of it that is n't the US , is not allowed to watch the shows on Hulu anyway.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that the iPad has no Flash and that that  makes it impossible to watch Hulu on it is moot since the rest of the world, you know, that fairly big part of it that isn't the US, is not allowed to watch the shows on Hulu anyway...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952168</id>
	<title>Dear computer makers</title>
	<author>SeanFlotre</author>
	<datestamp>1264790880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why can't we just have everything? Why does it have to be multitasking OR multitouch? clearly the tech is capable of both, why can't we just have it? is multitasking too complex for the average user to get their head around? that's been part of both mac and pc computing from the word "OS", why is it suddenly a new concept? multitouch and gestures are new, and a revolution if they could be used for computing and not just dicking around. can you imagine? a multitouch interface with final cut pro, moving video clips around a timeline and synching sound effects with gesture? hot damn, that's a sweet concept! but it's not yet! and it so totally could be now! why can't we have nice things?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't we just have everything ?
Why does it have to be multitasking OR multitouch ?
clearly the tech is capable of both , why ca n't we just have it ?
is multitasking too complex for the average user to get their head around ?
that 's been part of both mac and pc computing from the word " OS " , why is it suddenly a new concept ?
multitouch and gestures are new , and a revolution if they could be used for computing and not just dicking around .
can you imagine ?
a multitouch interface with final cut pro , moving video clips around a timeline and synching sound effects with gesture ?
hot damn , that 's a sweet concept !
but it 's not yet !
and it so totally could be now !
why ca n't we have nice things ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't we just have everything?
Why does it have to be multitasking OR multitouch?
clearly the tech is capable of both, why can't we just have it?
is multitasking too complex for the average user to get their head around?
that's been part of both mac and pc computing from the word "OS", why is it suddenly a new concept?
multitouch and gestures are new, and a revolution if they could be used for computing and not just dicking around.
can you imagine?
a multitouch interface with final cut pro, moving video clips around a timeline and synching sound effects with gesture?
hot damn, that's a sweet concept!
but it's not yet!
and it so totally could be now!
why can't we have nice things?
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950584</id>
	<title>Not really</title>
	<author>stoolpigeon</author>
	<datestamp>1264785480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've yet to see a compelling reason to pay more for a tablet.  My <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.amazon.com\%2Fgp\%2Fproduct\%2FB002P3KVAY\%2F&amp;tag=01071969-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325" title="amazon.com">Acer Aspire</a> [amazon.com] cost less than any tablet I've seen yet but does quite a bit more.  The only thing it is missing is the touch component but I have yet to find an app that makes me care.<br>
&nbsp; <br>If someone comes out with a tablet that is prices competitively with notebooks and has the same level of features, I'd think about it more seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've yet to see a compelling reason to pay more for a tablet .
My Acer Aspire [ amazon.com ] cost less than any tablet I 've seen yet but does quite a bit more .
The only thing it is missing is the touch component but I have yet to find an app that makes me care .
  If someone comes out with a tablet that is prices competitively with notebooks and has the same level of features , I 'd think about it more seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've yet to see a compelling reason to pay more for a tablet.
My Acer Aspire [amazon.com] cost less than any tablet I've seen yet but does quite a bit more.
The only thing it is missing is the touch component but I have yet to find an app that makes me care.
  If someone comes out with a tablet that is prices competitively with notebooks and has the same level of features, I'd think about it more seriously.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953556</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>Al Dimond</author>
	<datestamp>1264796760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're entering a significant amount of data you'll want to use a real keyboard. If you're not entering a significant amount of data a mouse will work just fine for squiggles and highlighting.</p><p>If you're going to use the computer in one place a desktop PC is best ergonomically. If you're going to take it places where you don't have a desk, or where there is a desk but overhead lighting that glares, you're going to want a device where you can point the screen toward your face. A smartphone is OK because you can hold it up to your face and still use it; a laptop is OK because you can tilt the screen. A tablet? Too big to use one-handed or with thumbs, and no tilting screen.</p><p>The tablet computer is a device with a vanishingly small niche. Tablets have failed in the past and they'll keep failing in the future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're entering a significant amount of data you 'll want to use a real keyboard .
If you 're not entering a significant amount of data a mouse will work just fine for squiggles and highlighting.If you 're going to use the computer in one place a desktop PC is best ergonomically .
If you 're going to take it places where you do n't have a desk , or where there is a desk but overhead lighting that glares , you 're going to want a device where you can point the screen toward your face .
A smartphone is OK because you can hold it up to your face and still use it ; a laptop is OK because you can tilt the screen .
A tablet ?
Too big to use one-handed or with thumbs , and no tilting screen.The tablet computer is a device with a vanishingly small niche .
Tablets have failed in the past and they 'll keep failing in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're entering a significant amount of data you'll want to use a real keyboard.
If you're not entering a significant amount of data a mouse will work just fine for squiggles and highlighting.If you're going to use the computer in one place a desktop PC is best ergonomically.
If you're going to take it places where you don't have a desk, or where there is a desk but overhead lighting that glares, you're going to want a device where you can point the screen toward your face.
A smartphone is OK because you can hold it up to your face and still use it; a laptop is OK because you can tilt the screen.
A tablet?
Too big to use one-handed or with thumbs, and no tilting screen.The tablet computer is a device with a vanishingly small niche.
Tablets have failed in the past and they'll keep failing in the future.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952330</id>
	<title>everyone is launching alternative</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1264791480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>anyone that followed CES saw that there were many, many companies showing off tablet devices. many android tablets, and some windows.</p><p>it was a little sad to watch actually. the ipad will probably do alright just because it's apple, but all those other devices together will be fighting over scraps in a market that has already shown that tablet devices are at best a niche.</p><p>HTC already canceled their android tablet. as a company that is at best viewed as one more cell phone manufacturer (in the US anyway), throwing one more android tablet into the fray would have been a serious mistake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>anyone that followed CES saw that there were many , many companies showing off tablet devices .
many android tablets , and some windows.it was a little sad to watch actually .
the ipad will probably do alright just because it 's apple , but all those other devices together will be fighting over scraps in a market that has already shown that tablet devices are at best a niche.HTC already canceled their android tablet .
as a company that is at best viewed as one more cell phone manufacturer ( in the US anyway ) , throwing one more android tablet into the fray would have been a serious mistake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>anyone that followed CES saw that there were many, many companies showing off tablet devices.
many android tablets, and some windows.it was a little sad to watch actually.
the ipad will probably do alright just because it's apple, but all those other devices together will be fighting over scraps in a market that has already shown that tablet devices are at best a niche.HTC already canceled their android tablet.
as a company that is at best viewed as one more cell phone manufacturer (in the US anyway), throwing one more android tablet into the fray would have been a serious mistake.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.31039704</id>
	<title>Re:Only if it has an IPS panel.</title>
	<author>Geert Jalink</author>
	<datestamp>1265365860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I personally agree that In Plane Switching is one of the best display technologies.

In-plane switching was developed by Hitachi Ltd. in 1996 to improve on the poor viewing angle and the poor color reproduction of TN panels at that time.[4] Its name comes from the main difference from TN panels, that the crystal molecules move parallel to the panel plane instead of perpendicular to it. This change reduces the amount of light scattering in the matrix, which gives IPS its characteristic wide viewing angles and good color reproduction.[5]

Initial iterations of IPS technology were plagued with slow response time and a low contrast ratio but later evolutions have made marked improvements to these shortcomings. Because of its wide viewing angle and accurate color reproduction (with almost no off-angle color shift), IPS is widely employed in high-end monitors aimed at professional graphic artists, although with the recent fall in price it has been seen in the mainstream market as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I personally agree that In Plane Switching is one of the best display technologies .
In-plane switching was developed by Hitachi Ltd. in 1996 to improve on the poor viewing angle and the poor color reproduction of TN panels at that time .
[ 4 ] Its name comes from the main difference from TN panels , that the crystal molecules move parallel to the panel plane instead of perpendicular to it .
This change reduces the amount of light scattering in the matrix , which gives IPS its characteristic wide viewing angles and good color reproduction .
[ 5 ] Initial iterations of IPS technology were plagued with slow response time and a low contrast ratio but later evolutions have made marked improvements to these shortcomings .
Because of its wide viewing angle and accurate color reproduction ( with almost no off-angle color shift ) , IPS is widely employed in high-end monitors aimed at professional graphic artists , although with the recent fall in price it has been seen in the mainstream market as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I personally agree that In Plane Switching is one of the best display technologies.
In-plane switching was developed by Hitachi Ltd. in 1996 to improve on the poor viewing angle and the poor color reproduction of TN panels at that time.
[4] Its name comes from the main difference from TN panels, that the crystal molecules move parallel to the panel plane instead of perpendicular to it.
This change reduces the amount of light scattering in the matrix, which gives IPS its characteristic wide viewing angles and good color reproduction.
[5]

Initial iterations of IPS technology were plagued with slow response time and a low contrast ratio but later evolutions have made marked improvements to these shortcomings.
Because of its wide viewing angle and accurate color reproduction (with almost no off-angle color shift), IPS is widely employed in high-end monitors aimed at professional graphic artists, although with the recent fall in price it has been seen in the mainstream market as well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954930</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264759260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So then buy a netbook. I've just bought a HP Mini 5110 which does all the things you listed, in anice metal case for about US$500, although the 3g needs some manual intervention to load the firmware in Linux.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So then buy a netbook .
I 've just bought a HP Mini 5110 which does all the things you listed , in anice metal case for about US $ 500 , although the 3g needs some manual intervention to load the firmware in Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So then buy a netbook.
I've just bought a HP Mini 5110 which does all the things you listed, in anice metal case for about US$500, although the 3g needs some manual intervention to load the firmware in Linux.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950912</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>eepok</author>
	<datestamp>1264786560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I agree with your analysis as to why the Apple iDevices sell so well, I have to state that "the geeks" aren't interested simply in buying from the company that has the best business model... we just want something that works the way we want. We couldn't care less if our purchase includes us in part of a smug team of iTards or anti-Mac... we just want to know if this tablet has the features we require. Example:</p><p>I don't need a camera.<br>I need multi-tasking.<br>I prefer to have a modable interface to save CPU/Battery power (less is more)<br>I want an SD or USB port<br>I need 3G<br>I need a text and email program.<br>I need it to be less than $600.<br>I don't care what anyone else wants nor how successful the company will be (or if it "wins" in the tablet arena)<br>etc...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I agree with your analysis as to why the Apple iDevices sell so well , I have to state that " the geeks " are n't interested simply in buying from the company that has the best business model... we just want something that works the way we want .
We could n't care less if our purchase includes us in part of a smug team of iTards or anti-Mac... we just want to know if this tablet has the features we require .
Example : I do n't need a camera.I need multi-tasking.I prefer to have a modable interface to save CPU/Battery power ( less is more ) I want an SD or USB portI need 3GI need a text and email program.I need it to be less than $ 600.I do n't care what anyone else wants nor how successful the company will be ( or if it " wins " in the tablet arena ) etc.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I agree with your analysis as to why the Apple iDevices sell so well, I have to state that "the geeks" aren't interested simply in buying from the company that has the best business model... we just want something that works the way we want.
We couldn't care less if our purchase includes us in part of a smug team of iTards or anti-Mac... we just want to know if this tablet has the features we require.
Example:I don't need a camera.I need multi-tasking.I prefer to have a modable interface to save CPU/Battery power (less is more)I want an SD or USB portI need 3GI need a text and email program.I need it to be less than $600.I don't care what anyone else wants nor how successful the company will be (or if it "wins" in the tablet arena)etc...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30958174</id>
	<title>What On Earth Is An Appliance?</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1264775280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Okay, we've heard the "It's an appliance" claim about a hundred times now, but what does it actually mean? How does that justify spending more money, for something that does less than other products already available (and not merely announced vaporware)?</p><p>But yes, I agree. Apple isn't interested in making computers anymore, and therefore their products should not be considered for the markets of portable computers or smartphones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay , we 've heard the " It 's an appliance " claim about a hundred times now , but what does it actually mean ?
How does that justify spending more money , for something that does less than other products already available ( and not merely announced vaporware ) ? But yes , I agree .
Apple is n't interested in making computers anymore , and therefore their products should not be considered for the markets of portable computers or smartphones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay, we've heard the "It's an appliance" claim about a hundred times now, but what does it actually mean?
How does that justify spending more money, for something that does less than other products already available (and not merely announced vaporware)?But yes, I agree.
Apple isn't interested in making computers anymore, and therefore their products should not be considered for the markets of portable computers or smartphones.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954968</id>
	<title>Re:iPad vs $300 Netbook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264759320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>my car sucks because it can't carry 20 passengers like a bus.<br>my bus sucks because it can't fly like a plane.<br>my plane sucks because it won't fit my carport.<br>my carport sucks because it isn't a mansion.<br>my mansion sucks because it can't sail the seven seas.<br>my butcher's knife sucks because i can't shave with it.<br>my razor sucks because it can't hack the ham.</p><p>flash just sucks.</p><p>a car is not intended to be a bus, a bus is not intended to be a plane, a plane isn't intended to be a mansion.  the ipad is not a netbook, nor a laptop, it's an entirely different class of device.  if you want a car, buy a car; if you want a netbook buy a netbook; if you want to figure out the direction that tablets should take, buy an ipad.  treating tablets like laptops is one of the reasons that there hasn't been a successful one yet.  treating phones like computers is a major reason windows-based smartphones didn't take off like the iphone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>my car sucks because it ca n't carry 20 passengers like a bus.my bus sucks because it ca n't fly like a plane.my plane sucks because it wo n't fit my carport.my carport sucks because it is n't a mansion.my mansion sucks because it ca n't sail the seven seas.my butcher 's knife sucks because i ca n't shave with it.my razor sucks because it ca n't hack the ham.flash just sucks.a car is not intended to be a bus , a bus is not intended to be a plane , a plane is n't intended to be a mansion .
the ipad is not a netbook , nor a laptop , it 's an entirely different class of device .
if you want a car , buy a car ; if you want a netbook buy a netbook ; if you want to figure out the direction that tablets should take , buy an ipad .
treating tablets like laptops is one of the reasons that there has n't been a successful one yet .
treating phones like computers is a major reason windows-based smartphones did n't take off like the iphone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my car sucks because it can't carry 20 passengers like a bus.my bus sucks because it can't fly like a plane.my plane sucks because it won't fit my carport.my carport sucks because it isn't a mansion.my mansion sucks because it can't sail the seven seas.my butcher's knife sucks because i can't shave with it.my razor sucks because it can't hack the ham.flash just sucks.a car is not intended to be a bus, a bus is not intended to be a plane, a plane isn't intended to be a mansion.
the ipad is not a netbook, nor a laptop, it's an entirely different class of device.
if you want a car, buy a car; if you want a netbook buy a netbook; if you want to figure out the direction that tablets should take, buy an ipad.
treating tablets like laptops is one of the reasons that there hasn't been a successful one yet.
treating phones like computers is a major reason windows-based smartphones didn't take off like the iphone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30991064</id>
	<title>Re:Wish List</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1265040120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tablet PC's have been available for a decade and iPhones for only 3 years and yet corporate has more iPhones than Tablet PC's. I think you dramatically underestimate the corporate uses for iPad. Consider there is a Salesforce app for iPhone that will gain a larger UI very quickly, then multiply that by the thousands of other corporate apps, then factor in all the custom apps corporations have built for themselves on iPhone over the past couple of years. Then consider at $499 the iPad is priced like a mobile phone, not a computer. The Nexus One costs $549, for example, and has 1/4 the storage of the $499 iPad.</p><p>Somebody said to me the other day "iPad may do well in Mac shops" and I laughed my ass off. iPad will do well in iPhone shops, which is 70\% of the Fortune 500 and growing. Where I work right now, they switched from Blackberry to iPhone with no user training and everybody was measurably more productive, while on the other hand, the user training investment and at least short-term productivity hit of Vista caused them to skip it entirely.</p><p>Make no mistake, iPad is meant for business.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tablet PC 's have been available for a decade and iPhones for only 3 years and yet corporate has more iPhones than Tablet PC 's .
I think you dramatically underestimate the corporate uses for iPad .
Consider there is a Salesforce app for iPhone that will gain a larger UI very quickly , then multiply that by the thousands of other corporate apps , then factor in all the custom apps corporations have built for themselves on iPhone over the past couple of years .
Then consider at $ 499 the iPad is priced like a mobile phone , not a computer .
The Nexus One costs $ 549 , for example , and has 1/4 the storage of the $ 499 iPad.Somebody said to me the other day " iPad may do well in Mac shops " and I laughed my ass off .
iPad will do well in iPhone shops , which is 70 \ % of the Fortune 500 and growing .
Where I work right now , they switched from Blackberry to iPhone with no user training and everybody was measurably more productive , while on the other hand , the user training investment and at least short-term productivity hit of Vista caused them to skip it entirely.Make no mistake , iPad is meant for business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tablet PC's have been available for a decade and iPhones for only 3 years and yet corporate has more iPhones than Tablet PC's.
I think you dramatically underestimate the corporate uses for iPad.
Consider there is a Salesforce app for iPhone that will gain a larger UI very quickly, then multiply that by the thousands of other corporate apps, then factor in all the custom apps corporations have built for themselves on iPhone over the past couple of years.
Then consider at $499 the iPad is priced like a mobile phone, not a computer.
The Nexus One costs $549, for example, and has 1/4 the storage of the $499 iPad.Somebody said to me the other day "iPad may do well in Mac shops" and I laughed my ass off.
iPad will do well in iPhone shops, which is 70\% of the Fortune 500 and growing.
Where I work right now, they switched from Blackberry to iPhone with no user training and everybody was measurably more productive, while on the other hand, the user training investment and at least short-term productivity hit of Vista caused them to skip it entirely.Make no mistake, iPad is meant for business.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952174</id>
	<title>Re:Productivity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264790880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>thinkfree office suite<br>quickoffice</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>thinkfree office suitequickoffice</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thinkfree office suitequickoffice</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951468</id>
	<title>a biiiig Maybe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264788540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If:<br>
&nbsp; - the UI is as polished and intuitive<br>
&nbsp; - it can has a remote itunes app<br>
&nbsp; - ibook app and store with at least the same offerings as the ipad<br>
&nbsp; - itunes store equivalent<br>
&nbsp; - and integrates as nicely with my itunes/ipod touch ecosystem</p><p>AND no shortcomings the iPad doesn't have </p><p>AND fixes some iPad shortcomings (none really for me except maybe 16:11, 16:10 would have been nice compromise between book and move screen format)</p><p>then Yes, I will buy the msi tablet instead....</p><p>anybody got some recent temperature measurements from hell???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If :   - the UI is as polished and intuitive   - it can has a remote itunes app   - ibook app and store with at least the same offerings as the ipad   - itunes store equivalent   - and integrates as nicely with my itunes/ipod touch ecosystemAND no shortcomings the iPad does n't have AND fixes some iPad shortcomings ( none really for me except maybe 16 : 11 , 16 : 10 would have been nice compromise between book and move screen format ) then Yes , I will buy the msi tablet instead....anybody got some recent temperature measurements from hell ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If:
  - the UI is as polished and intuitive
  - it can has a remote itunes app
  - ibook app and store with at least the same offerings as the ipad
  - itunes store equivalent
  - and integrates as nicely with my itunes/ipod touch ecosystemAND no shortcomings the iPad doesn't have AND fixes some iPad shortcomings (none really for me except maybe 16:11, 16:10 would have been nice compromise between book and move screen format)then Yes, I will buy the msi tablet instead....anybody got some recent temperature measurements from hell??
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952198</id>
	<title>they don't get it</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1264790940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The "shortcomings" of the iPad? Yeah, right.</p><p>There've been so many "iPod killers" (and then "iPhone killers") over the years, I've lost count. All of them try to outdo the Apple offering in tech specs. Guess what? Specs matter little. People don't buy iPods because they are the best technology. People don't buy Macs because they're the fastest, best machines around.</p><p>That is techie thinking and the world doesn't revolve around it. That's the kind of people who are still sad that VHS won the format war and not Betamax. That wonder why Linux doesn't dominate the desktop.</p><p>The revolutionary thing about the iPad isn't in the technology. It's in the way that Apple understands to put technology to the uses that people actually want. Real people, the one you meet in the street, not the one that builds their own iPad from spare parts. People that don't have the time to debug their kernel or X server just because they can. Yeah, I can debug a network just fine, from the socket code to the firewall settings, to the packet dump to the switch. But I prefer if I can plug it in and it just works.</p><p>MSI thinks "wouldn't it be neat if the feature list would contain this and that and here's one more and add a kitchen sink while you're at it"<br>Android and Linux hackers think "wouldn't it be neat if I could hack it and make it do whatever I want, given enough time and boredom?"</p><p>Well, none of that will kill an iPod or iPhone or iPad and not even an iMac, because the typical Apple customer thinks none of that, he thinks very simply "wouldn't it be neat if the thing simply worked?"</p><p>So MSI will add competition, but to a different market segment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The " shortcomings " of the iPad ?
Yeah , right.There 've been so many " iPod killers " ( and then " iPhone killers " ) over the years , I 've lost count .
All of them try to outdo the Apple offering in tech specs .
Guess what ?
Specs matter little .
People do n't buy iPods because they are the best technology .
People do n't buy Macs because they 're the fastest , best machines around.That is techie thinking and the world does n't revolve around it .
That 's the kind of people who are still sad that VHS won the format war and not Betamax .
That wonder why Linux does n't dominate the desktop.The revolutionary thing about the iPad is n't in the technology .
It 's in the way that Apple understands to put technology to the uses that people actually want .
Real people , the one you meet in the street , not the one that builds their own iPad from spare parts .
People that do n't have the time to debug their kernel or X server just because they can .
Yeah , I can debug a network just fine , from the socket code to the firewall settings , to the packet dump to the switch .
But I prefer if I can plug it in and it just works.MSI thinks " would n't it be neat if the feature list would contain this and that and here 's one more and add a kitchen sink while you 're at it " Android and Linux hackers think " would n't it be neat if I could hack it and make it do whatever I want , given enough time and boredom ?
" Well , none of that will kill an iPod or iPhone or iPad and not even an iMac , because the typical Apple customer thinks none of that , he thinks very simply " would n't it be neat if the thing simply worked ?
" So MSI will add competition , but to a different market segment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "shortcomings" of the iPad?
Yeah, right.There've been so many "iPod killers" (and then "iPhone killers") over the years, I've lost count.
All of them try to outdo the Apple offering in tech specs.
Guess what?
Specs matter little.
People don't buy iPods because they are the best technology.
People don't buy Macs because they're the fastest, best machines around.That is techie thinking and the world doesn't revolve around it.
That's the kind of people who are still sad that VHS won the format war and not Betamax.
That wonder why Linux doesn't dominate the desktop.The revolutionary thing about the iPad isn't in the technology.
It's in the way that Apple understands to put technology to the uses that people actually want.
Real people, the one you meet in the street, not the one that builds their own iPad from spare parts.
People that don't have the time to debug their kernel or X server just because they can.
Yeah, I can debug a network just fine, from the socket code to the firewall settings, to the packet dump to the switch.
But I prefer if I can plug it in and it just works.MSI thinks "wouldn't it be neat if the feature list would contain this and that and here's one more and add a kitchen sink while you're at it"Android and Linux hackers think "wouldn't it be neat if I could hack it and make it do whatever I want, given enough time and boredom?
"Well, none of that will kill an iPod or iPhone or iPad and not even an iMac, because the typical Apple customer thinks none of that, he thinks very simply "wouldn't it be neat if the thing simply worked?
"So MSI will add competition, but to a different market segment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30953404</id>
	<title>Re:Geeks miss the point again.</title>
	<author>gemada</author>
	<datestamp>1264795980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>After all, a chunk of stainless steel does extremely few things (well, actually nothing) but it is the best at it.</p></div><p>actually there is one thing a chunk of stainless steel can do very well: hit you over the head you idiot</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>After all , a chunk of stainless steel does extremely few things ( well , actually nothing ) but it is the best at it.actually there is one thing a chunk of stainless steel can do very well : hit you over the head you idiot</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all, a chunk of stainless steel does extremely few things (well, actually nothing) but it is the best at it.actually there is one thing a chunk of stainless steel can do very well: hit you over the head you idiot
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952116</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>rhsanborn</author>
	<datestamp>1264790700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I may another "edge case" but I see a lot of benefit in using a device like this (even better the Notion Ink Adam mentioned elsewhere) for reading and annotating PDFs. Holding a tablet feels more natural to me for reading, and the ability to annotate and scribble notes, or quickly switch to another screen and look up something while comfortably sitting on the couch appeals to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I may another " edge case " but I see a lot of benefit in using a device like this ( even better the Notion Ink Adam mentioned elsewhere ) for reading and annotating PDFs .
Holding a tablet feels more natural to me for reading , and the ability to annotate and scribble notes , or quickly switch to another screen and look up something while comfortably sitting on the couch appeals to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I may another "edge case" but I see a lot of benefit in using a device like this (even better the Notion Ink Adam mentioned elsewhere) for reading and annotating PDFs.
Holding a tablet feels more natural to me for reading, and the ability to annotate and scribble notes, or quickly switch to another screen and look up something while comfortably sitting on the couch appeals to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30957638</id>
	<title>We're buying iPad's for our sales force</title>
	<author>ducomputergeek</author>
	<datestamp>1264771740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What they need to be able to do is demo our web-based products and take orders online.  We already have an iPhone app, but the iphone is just too small.  We had been using latops or net books with cell cards, but this device is perfect for our needs.  The sales reps need to have cellular data, which is cheaper with the iPad than USB cell cards, and be able to demo our products in a web browser.  That's it.  And the fact they can use the existing iPhone app to enter sales data...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What they need to be able to do is demo our web-based products and take orders online .
We already have an iPhone app , but the iphone is just too small .
We had been using latops or net books with cell cards , but this device is perfect for our needs .
The sales reps need to have cellular data , which is cheaper with the iPad than USB cell cards , and be able to demo our products in a web browser .
That 's it .
And the fact they can use the existing iPhone app to enter sales data.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What they need to be able to do is demo our web-based products and take orders online.
We already have an iPhone app, but the iphone is just too small.
We had been using latops or net books with cell cards, but this device is perfect for our needs.
The sales reps need to have cellular data, which is cheaper with the iPad than USB cell cards, and be able to demo our products in a web browser.
That's it.
And the fact they can use the existing iPhone app to enter sales data...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30978142</id>
	<title>Will it tempt you?</title>
	<author>bryan1945</author>
	<datestamp>1265055240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>C'mon, this is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/., where the only really important thing is the ability to play with the guts of the system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>C'mon , this is /. , where the only really important thing is the ability to play with the guts of the system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>C'mon, this is /., where the only really important thing is the ability to play with the guts of the system.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30950788</id>
	<title>Re:Not really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264786200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Y'know, I love my netbook, but there are some times that it really just doesn't do it for me.  Like in a yaris, at night, while someone else is driving down a gravel road.  The position you're in is uncomfortable.  The keyboard is awkward.  The trackpad is tiny and useless when you're bouncing around.<br> <br>It's not always how much something does, it's how easy it is to use.  I'm going to be watching this very closely.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Y'know , I love my netbook , but there are some times that it really just does n't do it for me .
Like in a yaris , at night , while someone else is driving down a gravel road .
The position you 're in is uncomfortable .
The keyboard is awkward .
The trackpad is tiny and useless when you 're bouncing around .
It 's not always how much something does , it 's how easy it is to use .
I 'm going to be watching this very closely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Y'know, I love my netbook, but there are some times that it really just doesn't do it for me.
Like in a yaris, at night, while someone else is driving down a gravel road.
The position you're in is uncomfortable.
The keyboard is awkward.
The trackpad is tiny and useless when you're bouncing around.
It's not always how much something does, it's how easy it is to use.
I'm going to be watching this very closely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951578</id>
	<title>Flash sucks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264788840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lignux fan boys talking about Flash. Who hoo, what happened boys ? recession biting ???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lignux fan boys talking about Flash .
Who hoo , what happened boys ?
recession biting ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lignux fan boys talking about Flash.
Who hoo, what happened boys ?
recession biting ??
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952542</id>
	<title>Apple Marketing</title>
	<author>imunfair</author>
	<datestamp>1264792260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I ran across this video about the iPad the other day - at first I thought it was a parody, but I guess it isn't (which is rather sad).</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzZNpBfgDw" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzZNpBfgDw</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>When I first saw the iPad I was somewhat excited, expecting something revolutionary - and the more I watched and read about it, the more it seemed like a giant iPod touch with a couple new apps and features.  It has nothing to offer me that my Android phone can't handle on the road - and my laptop for the office/hotel/home.  Sure a 10 hour battery life is nice, but if I can't use it for what I want then that is useless to me.</p><p>The only selling point I see for the iPad is that it starts at $500, which is about the same price as an unlocked iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ran across this video about the iPad the other day - at first I thought it was a parody , but I guess it is n't ( which is rather sad ) .http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = gXzZNpBfgDw [ youtube.com ] When I first saw the iPad I was somewhat excited , expecting something revolutionary - and the more I watched and read about it , the more it seemed like a giant iPod touch with a couple new apps and features .
It has nothing to offer me that my Android phone ca n't handle on the road - and my laptop for the office/hotel/home .
Sure a 10 hour battery life is nice , but if I ca n't use it for what I want then that is useless to me.The only selling point I see for the iPad is that it starts at $ 500 , which is about the same price as an unlocked iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ran across this video about the iPad the other day - at first I thought it was a parody, but I guess it isn't (which is rather sad).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzZNpBfgDw [youtube.com]When I first saw the iPad I was somewhat excited, expecting something revolutionary - and the more I watched and read about it, the more it seemed like a giant iPod touch with a couple new apps and features.
It has nothing to offer me that my Android phone can't handle on the road - and my laptop for the office/hotel/home.
Sure a 10 hour battery life is nice, but if I can't use it for what I want then that is useless to me.The only selling point I see for the iPad is that it starts at $500, which is about the same price as an unlocked iPhone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30951154</id>
	<title>Re:Touch is just nice</title>
	<author>edmicman</author>
	<datestamp>1264787460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've wondered about the handwriting recognition; you just don't see/hear much about it anymore.  But then, would you end up going back to a stylus or something?  Handwriting with just your finger isn't going to be the same as if you're holding a pen.  But I'd bet dollars to donuts Hell would freeze over before Apple includes any sort of stylus peripheral with one of their products!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've wondered about the handwriting recognition ; you just do n't see/hear much about it anymore .
But then , would you end up going back to a stylus or something ?
Handwriting with just your finger is n't going to be the same as if you 're holding a pen .
But I 'd bet dollars to donuts Hell would freeze over before Apple includes any sort of stylus peripheral with one of their products !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've wondered about the handwriting recognition; you just don't see/hear much about it anymore.
But then, would you end up going back to a stylus or something?
Handwriting with just your finger isn't going to be the same as if you're holding a pen.
But I'd bet dollars to donuts Hell would freeze over before Apple includes any sort of stylus peripheral with one of their products!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30954588</id>
	<title>Pixel Qi</title>
	<author>DrXym</author>
	<datestamp>1264758060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think I'll become more interested in tablet devices when they offer the readability of an ebook device and the responsiveness / colour of a regular netbook / laptop. Pixel Qi is supposedly producing displays which hit the sweet spot, allowing relatively low power, high res monochrome output but still allowing colour and other functionality. A decent screen wouldn't fix the godawful usability issues of touch screens but it might strike the right balance between the needs of ebooks &amp; casual computing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think I 'll become more interested in tablet devices when they offer the readability of an ebook device and the responsiveness / colour of a regular netbook / laptop .
Pixel Qi is supposedly producing displays which hit the sweet spot , allowing relatively low power , high res monochrome output but still allowing colour and other functionality .
A decent screen would n't fix the godawful usability issues of touch screens but it might strike the right balance between the needs of ebooks &amp; casual computing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think I'll become more interested in tablet devices when they offer the readability of an ebook device and the responsiveness / colour of a regular netbook / laptop.
Pixel Qi is supposedly producing displays which hit the sweet spot, allowing relatively low power, high res monochrome output but still allowing colour and other functionality.
A decent screen wouldn't fix the godawful usability issues of touch screens but it might strike the right balance between the needs of ebooks &amp; casual computing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_1448208.30952566</id>
	<title>Samsung + Enlightenment</title>
	<author>citab</author>
	<datestamp>1264792380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Don't forget about Samsung and their investment in Enlightenment. Their touch cell(smart) phones are pretty nice.</p><p>I would expect them to be quietly cooking up something which is a more open solution sooner rather than later. Apple will open up this market, but I think Samsung will bring a viable option out soon. I just hope it has multitouch and can make cell calls via bluetooth headsets. Camera would be nice too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget about Samsung and their investment in Enlightenment .
Their touch cell ( smart ) phones are pretty nice.I would expect them to be quietly cooking up something which is a more open solution sooner rather than later .
Apple will open up this market , but I think Samsung will bring a viable option out soon .
I just hope it has multitouch and can make cell calls via bluetooth headsets .
Camera would be nice too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget about Samsung and their investment in Enlightenment.
Their touch cell(smart) phones are pretty nice.I would expect them to be quietly cooking up something which is a more open solution sooner rather than later.
Apple will open up this market, but I think Samsung will bring a viable option out soon.
I just hope it has multitouch and can make cell calls via bluetooth headsets.
Camera would be nice too.</sentencetext>
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