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	<title>Apple Tablet Rumor Wrap Up</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1264607940000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Since the Apple event is this afternoon, and the submission bin overflows with Apple Tablet rumor stories, I'm putting up a few of the more choice links here so we can all speculate for the next few hours.  A <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/26/mcgraw-hill-ceo-confirms-apple-tablet-iphone-os-based-going-to-be-terrific/">McGraw Hill CEO</a> confirmed the tablet on CNBC last night, basically saying it is a big iPhone that has content agreements with publishers.  Another blogger wrote in with a <a href="http://www.alchemistmuffin.com/The\_Inside\_Mind\_of\_alchemistmuffin/The\_computer\_spotlight\_for\_life/Entries/2010/1/26\_Keynote\_Preview\_\_Come\_See\_our\_Latest\_Creation.html">expectation list</a> for the event, and technologizer had a nice <a href="http://technologizer.com/2010/01/27/the-long-fail-a-brief-history-of-unsuccessful-tablet-computers/">history of fail</a> in the world of tablet computing.  Feel free to add your own rumor, speculation, and exhausted eye rolling below.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the Apple event is this afternoon , and the submission bin overflows with Apple Tablet rumor stories , I 'm putting up a few of the more choice links here so we can all speculate for the next few hours .
A McGraw Hill CEO confirmed the tablet on CNBC last night , basically saying it is a big iPhone that has content agreements with publishers .
Another blogger wrote in with a expectation list for the event , and technologizer had a nice history of fail in the world of tablet computing .
Feel free to add your own rumor , speculation , and exhausted eye rolling below .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the Apple event is this afternoon, and the submission bin overflows with Apple Tablet rumor stories, I'm putting up a few of the more choice links here so we can all speculate for the next few hours.
A McGraw Hill CEO confirmed the tablet on CNBC last night, basically saying it is a big iPhone that has content agreements with publishers.
Another blogger wrote in with a expectation list for the event, and technologizer had a nice history of fail in the world of tablet computing.
Feel free to add your own rumor, speculation, and exhausted eye rolling below.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Solar panel</title>
	<author>commodoresloat</author>
	<datestamp>1264616580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're right the solar panel is a gimmick, but the tablet will still get excellent battery life because it will mostly be powered by the user's sense of self-importance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right the solar panel is a gimmick , but the tablet will still get excellent battery life because it will mostly be powered by the user 's sense of self-importance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right the solar panel is a gimmick, but the tablet will still get excellent battery life because it will mostly be powered by the user's sense of self-importance.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917648</id>
	<title>TV and Kindle Competitor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264609140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>My predictions:

1. TV Replacement - Built in HDTV antenna , will work with Apple TV or another wireless TV spec to stream TV directly to the tablet. Sure, we know about internet TV and hulu, but I'm talking over the air TV and live TV. Killer feature for something this size.

2. Kindle Competitor - My bet is a new display type that has a very low power ambient light setting that allows the screen to be as easy on the eyes as a Kindle or other eInk reader.

So, while this will be a laptop/phone hybrid, it's really going to go after the TV/Paper publishing angle for it to have mass appeal. While it can surf the web and do general laptoppy/phone things...I see it as really something that's looking to create a new market and kill netbooks and eReaders all in one swoop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My predictions : 1 .
TV Replacement - Built in HDTV antenna , will work with Apple TV or another wireless TV spec to stream TV directly to the tablet .
Sure , we know about internet TV and hulu , but I 'm talking over the air TV and live TV .
Killer feature for something this size .
2. Kindle Competitor - My bet is a new display type that has a very low power ambient light setting that allows the screen to be as easy on the eyes as a Kindle or other eInk reader .
So , while this will be a laptop/phone hybrid , it 's really going to go after the TV/Paper publishing angle for it to have mass appeal .
While it can surf the web and do general laptoppy/phone things...I see it as really something that 's looking to create a new market and kill netbooks and eReaders all in one swoop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My predictions:

1.
TV Replacement - Built in HDTV antenna , will work with Apple TV or another wireless TV spec to stream TV directly to the tablet.
Sure, we know about internet TV and hulu, but I'm talking over the air TV and live TV.
Killer feature for something this size.
2. Kindle Competitor - My bet is a new display type that has a very low power ambient light setting that allows the screen to be as easy on the eyes as a Kindle or other eInk reader.
So, while this will be a laptop/phone hybrid, it's really going to go after the TV/Paper publishing angle for it to have mass appeal.
While it can surf the web and do general laptoppy/phone things...I see it as really something that's looking to create a new market and kill netbooks and eReaders all in one swoop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920812</id>
	<title>Live News Feed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264620780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Live News Feed: http://live.gdgt.com/2010/01/27/live-apple-come-see-our-latest-creation-tablet-event-coverage/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Live News Feed : http : //live.gdgt.com/2010/01/27/live-apple-come-see-our-latest-creation-tablet-event-coverage/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Live News Feed: http://live.gdgt.com/2010/01/27/live-apple-come-see-our-latest-creation-tablet-event-coverage/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918106</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Low Ranked Craig</author>
	<datestamp>1264610760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Depends on what you want.  If this device is essentially a big iPod touch, and has a good online store for e-books, this is exactly what I want.  A device that will let me read a book, listen to music, watch a movie, and browse the internet.   I really wanted a kindle but the thing is a unitasker with an e-ink screen and that doesn't work for me.  I don't want this to do coding or write documents.  This will be much more convenient to carry than my MacBook.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on what you want .
If this device is essentially a big iPod touch , and has a good online store for e-books , this is exactly what I want .
A device that will let me read a book , listen to music , watch a movie , and browse the internet .
I really wanted a kindle but the thing is a unitasker with an e-ink screen and that does n't work for me .
I do n't want this to do coding or write documents .
This will be much more convenient to carry than my MacBook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on what you want.
If this device is essentially a big iPod touch, and has a good online store for e-books, this is exactly what I want.
A device that will let me read a book, listen to music, watch a movie, and browse the internet.
I really wanted a kindle but the thing is a unitasker with an e-ink screen and that doesn't work for me.
I don't want this to do coding or write documents.
This will be much more convenient to carry than my MacBook.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918790</id>
	<title>And on the same day, the Archos A7IT is unveiled</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264613220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://archosfans.com/<br>Cheaper, Android, and many things more!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //archosfans.com/Cheaper , Android , and many things more !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://archosfans.com/Cheaper, Android, and many things more!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918204</id>
	<title>Re:Best rumor source yet...</title>
	<author>Low Ranked Craig</author>
	<datestamp>1264611060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Bio: "I'm a cereal entrepreneur: Founder of Weblogs, Inc., TechCrunch50, Silicon Alley Reporter, Engadget &amp; Mahalo.com"</p></div><p>Mmmm.  cereal.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bio : " I 'm a cereal entrepreneur : Founder of Weblogs , Inc. , TechCrunch50 , Silicon Alley Reporter , Engadget &amp; Mahalo.com " Mmmm .
cereal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bio: "I'm a cereal entrepreneur: Founder of Weblogs, Inc., TechCrunch50, Silicon Alley Reporter, Engadget &amp; Mahalo.com"Mmmm.
cereal.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917978</id>
	<title>Re:Best rumor source yet...</title>
	<author>zzyzx</author>
	<datestamp>1264610340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the TV output that makes this interesting to me.  Could this be an Apple TV that actually works?  Add a decent digital audio out, the ability to stream from iTunes, and a decent (256-512 gigs) amount of storage space and this device becomes a lot more interesting as a portable video player.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the TV output that makes this interesting to me .
Could this be an Apple TV that actually works ?
Add a decent digital audio out , the ability to stream from iTunes , and a decent ( 256-512 gigs ) amount of storage space and this device becomes a lot more interesting as a portable video player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the TV output that makes this interesting to me.
Could this be an Apple TV that actually works?
Add a decent digital audio out, the ability to stream from iTunes, and a decent (256-512 gigs) amount of storage space and this device becomes a lot more interesting as a portable video player.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918820</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Low Ranked Craig</author>
	<datestamp>1264613400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The real difference is that Microsoft does usability by committee.  A really big committee in the traditional product management, focus group, search for enhancement requests, etc.   Apple doesn't do focus groups or surveys.  They don't always end up with the best usability, but it's usually better than most in my experience, although I'm finding Windows 7 to be pretty usable.  Apple designs things they want to use every day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The real difference is that Microsoft does usability by committee .
A really big committee in the traditional product management , focus group , search for enhancement requests , etc .
Apple does n't do focus groups or surveys .
They do n't always end up with the best usability , but it 's usually better than most in my experience , although I 'm finding Windows 7 to be pretty usable .
Apple designs things they want to use every day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real difference is that Microsoft does usability by committee.
A really big committee in the traditional product management, focus group, search for enhancement requests, etc.
Apple doesn't do focus groups or surveys.
They don't always end up with the best usability, but it's usually better than most in my experience, although I'm finding Windows 7 to be pretty usable.
Apple designs things they want to use every day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918390</id>
	<title>Tablet PCs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264611840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thing that we can be sure of is that Apple is going to tout this tablet like they've invented this type device. The people at Apple are smart in that they aren't early adopters of new technologies. Others do it first and run into the issues anyone will face with technology in it's infancy. The segments of the market generally starts petering out as those guys move onto devices and that's when Apple jumps in.</p><p>It helps immensely that developing both hardware and software Apple has the huge advantage of good integration. With every other hardware maker they have to go with whatever is available at the time. The software developers, mainly Microsoft and Google have to partner with a hardware company. That almost always consists of an existing product being customized to their needs. Unfortunately this always results in a compromised product. There's nothing like being able to do everything in-house with teams working back and forth.</p><p>I have a Sony tablet PC, which I got second-hand. It's the U70 if I'm not mistaken. It came out back in 04 or so, when PC makers were eager to push the technology. It runs Windows XP and performs reasonably well actually. Unfortunately, these things were mainly hindered by the OS. Instead of developing a customized OS to enhance usability they were basically making them full-fledged PCs but more compact. This generally made them a pain to operate. I suppose it was just a sign of the times, because although Sony offered various on-screen input methods the keyboard was generally not given much on-screen real estate. They were still expecting users to interact with the device using a stylus. The touchscreen itself was good but certainly doesn't compare with what is possible with the technology today. The upside was that I could connect a monitor and keyboard to the thing and use it like a regular PC.</p><p>The device was a novelty, as a tablet today is for most people. Mine sits around collecting dust most of the time. However, for a couple of weeks I used it when I was traveling and it was great. That's where the compact size is a real asset. Being able to pull that thing out and start browsing the web is excellent. And the good thing is that because it's a PC, basically, I get a proper browsing experience and can do anything I might need to do at home or in the office. It's not a compromised experience like Smartphones provide.  However, the lack of a physical keyboard is a problem if you expect to do a lot of typing with the device. I'm sure touchscreen technology has improved to the point where typing on-screen is a bit better than it used to be, but it probably still won't be great. Some of the newer Sony tablets use integrated physical keyboards, but I'm not sure if those are any good.</p><p>The fact is, if you've got an iPhone, which most people interested in this tablet likely do, there's little need for this device. If this thing is running a version of the iPhone's OS then there's even less use for it. In my opinion a tablet should be a more portable alternative to a laptop, not a big brother to a mobile phone. Otherwise I expect these things to collect a lot of dust. I don't use my tablet PC for much of anything nowadays; I've installed automotive diagnostics software on it and even that doesn't get much use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing that we can be sure of is that Apple is going to tout this tablet like they 've invented this type device .
The people at Apple are smart in that they are n't early adopters of new technologies .
Others do it first and run into the issues anyone will face with technology in it 's infancy .
The segments of the market generally starts petering out as those guys move onto devices and that 's when Apple jumps in.It helps immensely that developing both hardware and software Apple has the huge advantage of good integration .
With every other hardware maker they have to go with whatever is available at the time .
The software developers , mainly Microsoft and Google have to partner with a hardware company .
That almost always consists of an existing product being customized to their needs .
Unfortunately this always results in a compromised product .
There 's nothing like being able to do everything in-house with teams working back and forth.I have a Sony tablet PC , which I got second-hand .
It 's the U70 if I 'm not mistaken .
It came out back in 04 or so , when PC makers were eager to push the technology .
It runs Windows XP and performs reasonably well actually .
Unfortunately , these things were mainly hindered by the OS .
Instead of developing a customized OS to enhance usability they were basically making them full-fledged PCs but more compact .
This generally made them a pain to operate .
I suppose it was just a sign of the times , because although Sony offered various on-screen input methods the keyboard was generally not given much on-screen real estate .
They were still expecting users to interact with the device using a stylus .
The touchscreen itself was good but certainly does n't compare with what is possible with the technology today .
The upside was that I could connect a monitor and keyboard to the thing and use it like a regular PC.The device was a novelty , as a tablet today is for most people .
Mine sits around collecting dust most of the time .
However , for a couple of weeks I used it when I was traveling and it was great .
That 's where the compact size is a real asset .
Being able to pull that thing out and start browsing the web is excellent .
And the good thing is that because it 's a PC , basically , I get a proper browsing experience and can do anything I might need to do at home or in the office .
It 's not a compromised experience like Smartphones provide .
However , the lack of a physical keyboard is a problem if you expect to do a lot of typing with the device .
I 'm sure touchscreen technology has improved to the point where typing on-screen is a bit better than it used to be , but it probably still wo n't be great .
Some of the newer Sony tablets use integrated physical keyboards , but I 'm not sure if those are any good.The fact is , if you 've got an iPhone , which most people interested in this tablet likely do , there 's little need for this device .
If this thing is running a version of the iPhone 's OS then there 's even less use for it .
In my opinion a tablet should be a more portable alternative to a laptop , not a big brother to a mobile phone .
Otherwise I expect these things to collect a lot of dust .
I do n't use my tablet PC for much of anything nowadays ; I 've installed automotive diagnostics software on it and even that does n't get much use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing that we can be sure of is that Apple is going to tout this tablet like they've invented this type device.
The people at Apple are smart in that they aren't early adopters of new technologies.
Others do it first and run into the issues anyone will face with technology in it's infancy.
The segments of the market generally starts petering out as those guys move onto devices and that's when Apple jumps in.It helps immensely that developing both hardware and software Apple has the huge advantage of good integration.
With every other hardware maker they have to go with whatever is available at the time.
The software developers, mainly Microsoft and Google have to partner with a hardware company.
That almost always consists of an existing product being customized to their needs.
Unfortunately this always results in a compromised product.
There's nothing like being able to do everything in-house with teams working back and forth.I have a Sony tablet PC, which I got second-hand.
It's the U70 if I'm not mistaken.
It came out back in 04 or so, when PC makers were eager to push the technology.
It runs Windows XP and performs reasonably well actually.
Unfortunately, these things were mainly hindered by the OS.
Instead of developing a customized OS to enhance usability they were basically making them full-fledged PCs but more compact.
This generally made them a pain to operate.
I suppose it was just a sign of the times, because although Sony offered various on-screen input methods the keyboard was generally not given much on-screen real estate.
They were still expecting users to interact with the device using a stylus.
The touchscreen itself was good but certainly doesn't compare with what is possible with the technology today.
The upside was that I could connect a monitor and keyboard to the thing and use it like a regular PC.The device was a novelty, as a tablet today is for most people.
Mine sits around collecting dust most of the time.
However, for a couple of weeks I used it when I was traveling and it was great.
That's where the compact size is a real asset.
Being able to pull that thing out and start browsing the web is excellent.
And the good thing is that because it's a PC, basically, I get a proper browsing experience and can do anything I might need to do at home or in the office.
It's not a compromised experience like Smartphones provide.
However, the lack of a physical keyboard is a problem if you expect to do a lot of typing with the device.
I'm sure touchscreen technology has improved to the point where typing on-screen is a bit better than it used to be, but it probably still won't be great.
Some of the newer Sony tablets use integrated physical keyboards, but I'm not sure if those are any good.The fact is, if you've got an iPhone, which most people interested in this tablet likely do, there's little need for this device.
If this thing is running a version of the iPhone's OS then there's even less use for it.
In my opinion a tablet should be a more portable alternative to a laptop, not a big brother to a mobile phone.
Otherwise I expect these things to collect a lot of dust.
I don't use my tablet PC for much of anything nowadays; I've installed automotive diagnostics software on it and even that doesn't get much use.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918658</id>
	<title>Anyone else turned off by forced cell service?</title>
	<author>swb</author>
	<datestamp>1264612800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It remains unclear whether or not the device will have, let alone require, cell service, but am I the only one vaguely turned off by the idea you'd *have* to buy it with cell service (and thus pay an additional $1500-2000 for it)?</p><p>As a ~10" device, it isn't iPhone-portable.  While toting it around is probably thing #1 people will want to do with it, it seems much more like the kind of device you'd leave at home -- taking your iPhone for maximum portability or your laptop for maximum computing.  And at home -- and many coffeeshop type places you'd take it -- will already have wifi.</p><p>I don't mind the *option* of cell service; certainly there are a not insignificant class of users who will want cell mobility with it, but with an iPhone OS its not completely a laptop replacement and the size acts as a mobility hindrance, unless you carry that 12" manbag everywhere you go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It remains unclear whether or not the device will have , let alone require , cell service , but am I the only one vaguely turned off by the idea you 'd * have * to buy it with cell service ( and thus pay an additional $ 1500-2000 for it ) ? As a ~ 10 " device , it is n't iPhone-portable .
While toting it around is probably thing # 1 people will want to do with it , it seems much more like the kind of device you 'd leave at home -- taking your iPhone for maximum portability or your laptop for maximum computing .
And at home -- and many coffeeshop type places you 'd take it -- will already have wifi.I do n't mind the * option * of cell service ; certainly there are a not insignificant class of users who will want cell mobility with it , but with an iPhone OS its not completely a laptop replacement and the size acts as a mobility hindrance , unless you carry that 12 " manbag everywhere you go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It remains unclear whether or not the device will have, let alone require, cell service, but am I the only one vaguely turned off by the idea you'd *have* to buy it with cell service (and thus pay an additional $1500-2000 for it)?As a ~10" device, it isn't iPhone-portable.
While toting it around is probably thing #1 people will want to do with it, it seems much more like the kind of device you'd leave at home -- taking your iPhone for maximum portability or your laptop for maximum computing.
And at home -- and many coffeeshop type places you'd take it -- will already have wifi.I don't mind the *option* of cell service; certainly there are a not insignificant class of users who will want cell mobility with it, but with an iPhone OS its not completely a laptop replacement and the size acts as a mobility hindrance, unless you carry that 12" manbag everywhere you go.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919760</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1264617000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Ten years ago, would anyone have predicted that products like the iPhone or the Kindle could possibly have any success at all?</p></div></blockquote><p>Probably; the Blackberry, while less technology advanced, pretty much was a "product like the iPhone" 10 years ago.</p><blockquote><div><p>Somehow, in the last decade, the personal computer market has accepted (in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products) that personal computers don't need to be totally open to developers</p></div></blockquote><p>I don't think the "personal computer" market has done that all.</p><p>The market for a number of <i>completely new devices</i> that sit somewhere between traditional PCs and older mobile devices that had completely fixed functionality with no third-party apps (or even first-party apps besides those pre-installed) has accepted that limited openness to developers is acceptable (and I'm not even sure that those markets have really accepted that, so much as having lacked viable, price-competitive alternatives that aren't severely disadvantaged by the tightly-controlled dominant player was well-established first and has a major pre-existing network effect advantage.)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Ten years ago , would anyone have predicted that products like the iPhone or the Kindle could possibly have any success at all ? Probably ; the Blackberry , while less technology advanced , pretty much was a " product like the iPhone " 10 years ago.Somehow , in the last decade , the personal computer market has accepted ( in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products ) that personal computers do n't need to be totally open to developersI do n't think the " personal computer " market has done that all.The market for a number of completely new devices that sit somewhere between traditional PCs and older mobile devices that had completely fixed functionality with no third-party apps ( or even first-party apps besides those pre-installed ) has accepted that limited openness to developers is acceptable ( and I 'm not even sure that those markets have really accepted that , so much as having lacked viable , price-competitive alternatives that are n't severely disadvantaged by the tightly-controlled dominant player was well-established first and has a major pre-existing network effect advantage .
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<sentencetext>Ten years ago, would anyone have predicted that products like the iPhone or the Kindle could possibly have any success at all?Probably; the Blackberry, while less technology advanced, pretty much was a "product like the iPhone" 10 years ago.Somehow, in the last decade, the personal computer market has accepted (in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products) that personal computers don't need to be totally open to developersI don't think the "personal computer" market has done that all.The market for a number of completely new devices that sit somewhere between traditional PCs and older mobile devices that had completely fixed functionality with no third-party apps (or even first-party apps besides those pre-installed) has accepted that limited openness to developers is acceptable (and I'm not even sure that those markets have really accepted that, so much as having lacked viable, price-competitive alternatives that aren't severely disadvantaged by the tightly-controlled dominant player was well-established first and has a major pre-existing network effect advantage.
)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919074</id>
	<title>Re:Rumors? Bah</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slashdot&amp;Apple: Rumors for nerds, stuff that I don't really care about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot&amp;Apple : Rumors for nerds , stuff that I do n't really care about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot&amp;Apple: Rumors for nerds, stuff that I don't really care about.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920932</id>
	<title>iPad?? LMFAO!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264621080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can't be serious.  iPad?  How many maxipad jokes do you want to hear?  Too Silly.<br>I was holding back on getting an Entourage edge but not anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't be serious .
iPad ? How many maxipad jokes do you want to hear ?
Too Silly.I was holding back on getting an Entourage edge but not anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't be serious.
iPad?  How many maxipad jokes do you want to hear?
Too Silly.I was holding back on getting an Entourage edge but not anymore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919904</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Lodragandraoidh</author>
	<datestamp>1264617540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Low Ranked Craig: Bingo!</p><p>Plus add:<br>Handwriting recognition - a la 'Newton'<br>Longer battery life.</p><p>Then I will use the hell out of it.  I don't want to carry around a laptop, cell phone, MP3/Movie player, and a paper notepad (for those time I need to scrawl something quick or when typing in a meeting is too distracting - or I want to draw a friggin' picture/diagram! [drawing with a mouse or touch pad on a laptop is epic fail])</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Low Ranked Craig : Bingo ! Plus add : Handwriting recognition - a la 'Newton'Longer battery life.Then I will use the hell out of it .
I do n't want to carry around a laptop , cell phone , MP3/Movie player , and a paper notepad ( for those time I need to scrawl something quick or when typing in a meeting is too distracting - or I want to draw a friggin ' picture/diagram !
[ drawing with a mouse or touch pad on a laptop is epic fail ] )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Low Ranked Craig: Bingo!Plus add:Handwriting recognition - a la 'Newton'Longer battery life.Then I will use the hell out of it.
I don't want to carry around a laptop, cell phone, MP3/Movie player, and a paper notepad (for those time I need to scrawl something quick or when typing in a meeting is too distracting - or I want to draw a friggin' picture/diagram!
[drawing with a mouse or touch pad on a laptop is epic fail])</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918032</id>
	<title>I'll probably look silly in 3 hours time but...</title>
	<author>abigsmurf</author>
	<datestamp>1264610520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All the rumours point to this being an expensive device, more expensive than a Pay as you go iPhone.
<br> <br>
A lightweight, fast web browser you can use on the coach and with side use as an e-reader is a tempting proposition. However I would want that at a price comparable to a netbook.
<br> <br>
I'm not going to pay &pound;600+ for a pure fun gadget. It would need to be a real workhorse for that price and the failings of tablets in the past have shown they just don't cut it for heavy usage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All the rumours point to this being an expensive device , more expensive than a Pay as you go iPhone .
A lightweight , fast web browser you can use on the coach and with side use as an e-reader is a tempting proposition .
However I would want that at a price comparable to a netbook .
I 'm not going to pay   600 + for a pure fun gadget .
It would need to be a real workhorse for that price and the failings of tablets in the past have shown they just do n't cut it for heavy usage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the rumours point to this being an expensive device, more expensive than a Pay as you go iPhone.
A lightweight, fast web browser you can use on the coach and with side use as an e-reader is a tempting proposition.
However I would want that at a price comparable to a netbook.
I'm not going to pay £600+ for a pure fun gadget.
It would need to be a real workhorse for that price and the failings of tablets in the past have shown they just don't cut it for heavy usage.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917742</id>
	<title>Rumors? Bah</title>
	<author>darjen</author>
	<datestamp>1264609440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just don't care much for all this speculation and rumors. Waste of time in my book. Wait for the device to come out and judge it on its merits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just do n't care much for all this speculation and rumors .
Waste of time in my book .
Wait for the device to come out and judge it on its merits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just don't care much for all this speculation and rumors.
Waste of time in my book.
Wait for the device to come out and judge it on its merits.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919596</id>
	<title>Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch</title>
	<author>bhsx</author>
	<datestamp>1264616400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why has noone speculated on a possible Pixel Qi screen?  <br>
<a href="http://www.pixelqi.com/" title="pixelqi.com">http://www.pixelqi.com/</a> [pixelqi.com]
<br>
They have supposedly been ready to ship for a couple months now and plenty of prototypes are floating around.  There's no way any of the PQ girls and guys would let it slip out, since this would be their first actual product launch.  They wouldn't do anything to jeopardize their image, and the LACK of rumors of a Pixel Qi screen makes me think I'm on to something (in the sense that this rock keeps away tigers, as I haven't seen one since i've had this rock...).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why has noone speculated on a possible Pixel Qi screen ?
http : //www.pixelqi.com/ [ pixelqi.com ] They have supposedly been ready to ship for a couple months now and plenty of prototypes are floating around .
There 's no way any of the PQ girls and guys would let it slip out , since this would be their first actual product launch .
They would n't do anything to jeopardize their image , and the LACK of rumors of a Pixel Qi screen makes me think I 'm on to something ( in the sense that this rock keeps away tigers , as I have n't seen one since i 've had this rock... ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why has noone speculated on a possible Pixel Qi screen?
http://www.pixelqi.com/ [pixelqi.com]

They have supposedly been ready to ship for a couple months now and plenty of prototypes are floating around.
There's no way any of the PQ girls and guys would let it slip out, since this would be their first actual product launch.
They wouldn't do anything to jeopardize their image, and the LACK of rumors of a Pixel Qi screen makes me think I'm on to something (in the sense that this rock keeps away tigers, as I haven't seen one since i've had this rock...).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918560</id>
	<title>Re:TV and Kindle Competitor</title>
	<author>delinear</author>
	<datestamp>1264612440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To kill netbooks it needs to not be &pound;1,000 when it lands, otherwise it's not going to compete with a &pound;150 netbook with a real keyboard.</p><p>To kill e-readers it'll need something technologically revolutionary to make it easy on the eyes for prolonged usage and easy on the battery (apparently they go for a couple of weeks without a charge with WiFi disabled, considering the very best netbook battery life I've seen is 10 hours, I don't think they're going to get anywhere near that with a tablet PC no matter what they do with the backlight levels). I'm not completely ruling out the revolutionary technology to compete with e-ink, but I can't help thinking if that was the big secret it would have been too big even for Apple to keep the wraps on and we'd have heard something.</p><p>I don't think it will kill anything, I think its aim is to sit in the overlap between desktops, laptops and netbooks, if it runs OSX, has some variation of the app store and ideally some built in functionality to control various devices around the home then that'll probably be good enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To kill netbooks it needs to not be   1,000 when it lands , otherwise it 's not going to compete with a   150 netbook with a real keyboard.To kill e-readers it 'll need something technologically revolutionary to make it easy on the eyes for prolonged usage and easy on the battery ( apparently they go for a couple of weeks without a charge with WiFi disabled , considering the very best netbook battery life I 've seen is 10 hours , I do n't think they 're going to get anywhere near that with a tablet PC no matter what they do with the backlight levels ) .
I 'm not completely ruling out the revolutionary technology to compete with e-ink , but I ca n't help thinking if that was the big secret it would have been too big even for Apple to keep the wraps on and we 'd have heard something.I do n't think it will kill anything , I think its aim is to sit in the overlap between desktops , laptops and netbooks , if it runs OSX , has some variation of the app store and ideally some built in functionality to control various devices around the home then that 'll probably be good enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To kill netbooks it needs to not be £1,000 when it lands, otherwise it's not going to compete with a £150 netbook with a real keyboard.To kill e-readers it'll need something technologically revolutionary to make it easy on the eyes for prolonged usage and easy on the battery (apparently they go for a couple of weeks without a charge with WiFi disabled, considering the very best netbook battery life I've seen is 10 hours, I don't think they're going to get anywhere near that with a tablet PC no matter what they do with the backlight levels).
I'm not completely ruling out the revolutionary technology to compete with e-ink, but I can't help thinking if that was the big secret it would have been too big even for Apple to keep the wraps on and we'd have heard something.I don't think it will kill anything, I think its aim is to sit in the overlap between desktops, laptops and netbooks, if it runs OSX, has some variation of the app store and ideally some built in functionality to control various devices around the home then that'll probably be good enough.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919306</id>
	<title>Re:Best rumor source yet...</title>
	<author>Ma8thew</author>
	<datestamp>1264615320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Jason Calacanis got his tablet 10 days ago</p></div></blockquote><p>
No he didn't. He is not-so-subtley taking the piss in his Twitter feed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Jason Calacanis got his tablet 10 days ago No he did n't .
He is not-so-subtley taking the piss in his Twitter feed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jason Calacanis got his tablet 10 days ago
No he didn't.
He is not-so-subtley taking the piss in his Twitter feed.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918496</id>
	<title>Stupid.</title>
	<author>spacemky</author>
	<datestamp>1264612200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tablets are a stupid idea. But then again, so is the name "iPod" for a portable music player.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tablets are a stupid idea .
But then again , so is the name " iPod " for a portable music player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tablets are a stupid idea.
But then again, so is the name "iPod" for a portable music player.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30932424</id>
	<title>I'm going back to bed...</title>
	<author>pandrijeczko</author>
	<datestamp>1264689780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...wake me up again when there's one I can put the software I want to on it, not what Apple wants to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...wake me up again when there 's one I can put the software I want to on it , not what Apple wants to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...wake me up again when there's one I can put the software I want to on it, not what Apple wants to.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919862</id>
	<title>Re:Best rumor source yet...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264617360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Choice quotes from TFT:</p><p>"Farmville for Apple tablet is a huge game changer"</p><p>"Planting seeds in farmville on my apple tablet.... So cool how you shake the tablet to plant seeds then wobble it to spread water around."</p><p>Either that account has been hacked, or you've been trolled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Choice quotes from TFT : " Farmville for Apple tablet is a huge game changer " " Planting seeds in farmville on my apple tablet.... So cool how you shake the tablet to plant seeds then wobble it to spread water around .
" Either that account has been hacked , or you 've been trolled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Choice quotes from TFT:"Farmville for Apple tablet is a huge game changer""Planting seeds in farmville on my apple tablet.... So cool how you shake the tablet to plant seeds then wobble it to spread water around.
"Either that account has been hacked, or you've been trolled.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917732</id>
	<title>Patience</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264609380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The real announcement will be in 2-3 hours (depending on previous chatting and other products they want to be sure everyone knows about before the big one),and according to the rumors, will be available to the public at least in march.

</p><p>So, why hurry? Probably won't be nothing earth shattering, with high odds that will be essentially a road to approved-by-them apps, DRMd content, and not so top of the line hardware. Probably there were already announced in CES enough good and open alternatives to it.

</p><p>Of course,could be big surprises, like announcing <a href="http://www.pidjin.net/2010/01/25/iwish/" title="pidjin.net">a game</a> [pidjin.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real announcement will be in 2-3 hours ( depending on previous chatting and other products they want to be sure everyone knows about before the big one ) ,and according to the rumors , will be available to the public at least in march .
So , why hurry ?
Probably wo n't be nothing earth shattering , with high odds that will be essentially a road to approved-by-them apps , DRMd content , and not so top of the line hardware .
Probably there were already announced in CES enough good and open alternatives to it .
Of course,could be big surprises , like announcing a game [ pidjin.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real announcement will be in 2-3 hours (depending on previous chatting and other products they want to be sure everyone knows about before the big one),and according to the rumors, will be available to the public at least in march.
So, why hurry?
Probably won't be nothing earth shattering, with high odds that will be essentially a road to approved-by-them apps, DRMd content, and not so top of the line hardware.
Probably there were already announced in CES enough good and open alternatives to it.
Of course,could be big surprises, like announcing a game [pidjin.net]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917580</id>
	<title>I was considering one to replace my macbook</title>
	<author>antifoidulus</author>
	<datestamp>1264608900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>but if the rumors of it running the iPhone OS are true, I will pass.  Not being able to easily load whatever software I want on to the thing is a big turnoff.  Not to mention the class of programs that can run on the iPhone OS are pretty limited(I doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet....)</htmltext>
<tokenext>but if the rumors of it running the iPhone OS are true , I will pass .
Not being able to easily load whatever software I want on to the thing is a big turnoff .
Not to mention the class of programs that can run on the iPhone OS are pretty limited ( I doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet.... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but if the rumors of it running the iPhone OS are true, I will pass.
Not being able to easily load whatever software I want on to the thing is a big turnoff.
Not to mention the class of programs that can run on the iPhone OS are pretty limited(I doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet....)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917594</id>
	<title>overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch</title>
	<author>WillAdams</author>
	<datestamp>1264608960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Givens:</p><p>
&nbsp; - upgraded iPhone OS<br>
&nbsp; - ARM or custom CPU<br>
&nbsp; - purchase content through iTunes<br>
&nbsp; - ebooks will be extensions of Apple's ``LP'' format so will be multi-media w/ HTML, CSS, and nice cover graphics / icons in the interface</p><p>Possibilities:</p><p>
&nbsp; - handwriting recognition<br>
&nbsp; - stylus</p><p>Not going to happen:</p><p>
&nbsp; - Intel chip<br>
&nbsp; - run Mac OS X apps</p><p>William<br>(who will be getting an Axiotron Modbook instead)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Givens :   - upgraded iPhone OS   - ARM or custom CPU   - purchase content through iTunes   - ebooks will be extensions of Apple 's ` ` LP' ' format so will be multi-media w/ HTML , CSS , and nice cover graphics / icons in the interfacePossibilities :   - handwriting recognition   - stylusNot going to happen :   - Intel chip   - run Mac OS X appsWilliam ( who will be getting an Axiotron Modbook instead )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Givens:
  - upgraded iPhone OS
  - ARM or custom CPU
  - purchase content through iTunes
  - ebooks will be extensions of Apple's ``LP'' format so will be multi-media w/ HTML, CSS, and nice cover graphics / icons in the interfacePossibilities:
  - handwriting recognition
  - stylusNot going to happen:
  - Intel chip
  - run Mac OS X appsWilliam(who will be getting an Axiotron Modbook instead)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919186</id>
	<title>Overcharge!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet Apple will charge probably 3-5x more than other tablets, and will make it look extra shiny.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet Apple will charge probably 3-5x more than other tablets , and will make it look extra shiny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet Apple will charge probably 3-5x more than other tablets, and will make it look extra shiny.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30921546</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>david\_thornley</author>
	<datestamp>1264622520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Somehow, in the last decade, the personal computer market has accepted  (in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products) that personal computers don't need to be totally open to developers;</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
It wasn't during the last decade, it was when personal computers spread beyond the hobbyists.  Blame the original IBM PC if you like.  While it was nice and open, what lots of people wanted to do was set up on people's desks with certain software installed, locked down by corporate policy.  (You could blame Texas Instruments in how they went with the TI-99/4, but that was a flop anyway.)
</p><p>
And, indeed, most desktop and laptop computers are open.  On Windows 7, MacOSX, Linux, *BSD, whatever, you can install what software you like and write your own if you'd prefer.  I see no sign of this changing.
</p><p>
What did change is that devices became smart.  Nobody expects to program their car, although there's a heck of a lot of computing power in there.  People generally don't expect to program their game consoles, although those things are just locked down personal computers.  Until recently, nobody expected to program their cell phone.  How many people want to program their Kindle and/or Nook?
</p><p>
The difference, from your point of view, is that many devices have gotten to the point where they can be considered personal computers.  I view my iPhone as a phone that does all sorts of neat stuff, not as my personal computer.  I have real computers when I want to write software.  I don't know what role the Apple tablet is intended for.
</p><p>
However, I am rather curious about one thing:  why do you malign a piece of hardware you know nothing about?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somehow , in the last decade , the personal computer market has accepted ( in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products ) that personal computers do n't need to be totally open to developers ; It was n't during the last decade , it was when personal computers spread beyond the hobbyists .
Blame the original IBM PC if you like .
While it was nice and open , what lots of people wanted to do was set up on people 's desks with certain software installed , locked down by corporate policy .
( You could blame Texas Instruments in how they went with the TI-99/4 , but that was a flop anyway .
) And , indeed , most desktop and laptop computers are open .
On Windows 7 , MacOSX , Linux , * BSD , whatever , you can install what software you like and write your own if you 'd prefer .
I see no sign of this changing .
What did change is that devices became smart .
Nobody expects to program their car , although there 's a heck of a lot of computing power in there .
People generally do n't expect to program their game consoles , although those things are just locked down personal computers .
Until recently , nobody expected to program their cell phone .
How many people want to program their Kindle and/or Nook ?
The difference , from your point of view , is that many devices have gotten to the point where they can be considered personal computers .
I view my iPhone as a phone that does all sorts of neat stuff , not as my personal computer .
I have real computers when I want to write software .
I do n't know what role the Apple tablet is intended for .
However , I am rather curious about one thing : why do you malign a piece of hardware you know nothing about ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somehow, in the last decade, the personal computer market has accepted  (in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products) that personal computers don't need to be totally open to developers;

It wasn't during the last decade, it was when personal computers spread beyond the hobbyists.
Blame the original IBM PC if you like.
While it was nice and open, what lots of people wanted to do was set up on people's desks with certain software installed, locked down by corporate policy.
(You could blame Texas Instruments in how they went with the TI-99/4, but that was a flop anyway.
)

And, indeed, most desktop and laptop computers are open.
On Windows 7, MacOSX, Linux, *BSD, whatever, you can install what software you like and write your own if you'd prefer.
I see no sign of this changing.
What did change is that devices became smart.
Nobody expects to program their car, although there's a heck of a lot of computing power in there.
People generally don't expect to program their game consoles, although those things are just locked down personal computers.
Until recently, nobody expected to program their cell phone.
How many people want to program their Kindle and/or Nook?
The difference, from your point of view, is that many devices have gotten to the point where they can be considered personal computers.
I view my iPhone as a phone that does all sorts of neat stuff, not as my personal computer.
I have real computers when I want to write software.
I don't know what role the Apple tablet is intended for.
However, I am rather curious about one thing:  why do you malign a piece of hardware you know nothing about?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920284</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>MrSteveSD</author>
	<datestamp>1264619160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I also hate the trend of computing devices becoming locked down. It really is a massive step backwards. I certainly won't be buying a locked down Apple iSlate, but would certainly consider buying a similar open product from a competitor. I think that companies need to make more of the fact that their products are open. In a world of locked down systems, openness should be marketed as a selling point and also used to tarnish closed products.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I also hate the trend of computing devices becoming locked down .
It really is a massive step backwards .
I certainly wo n't be buying a locked down Apple iSlate , but would certainly consider buying a similar open product from a competitor .
I think that companies need to make more of the fact that their products are open .
In a world of locked down systems , openness should be marketed as a selling point and also used to tarnish closed products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also hate the trend of computing devices becoming locked down.
It really is a massive step backwards.
I certainly won't be buying a locked down Apple iSlate, but would certainly consider buying a similar open product from a competitor.
I think that companies need to make more of the fact that their products are open.
In a world of locked down systems, openness should be marketed as a selling point and also used to tarnish closed products.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917898</id>
	<title>It is good marketing</title>
	<author>MikeURL</author>
	<datestamp>1264610100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>No less a visionary than Bill Gates talked about the form factor problem years ago.  An iPhone is great for what it is--something you can fit in your pocket.  A desktop, at the other end, is good for what it does (large screen, hefty processing and video power, etc).  Then there is the middle which is currently served by notebooks and, more recently, netbooks.
<br> <br>
As an "ecosystem" play it makes perfect sense for Apple to have an offering that covers each form factor.  With the intro of a tablet you can have an Apple desktop, something intermediate and an iPhone-- all the current form factor bases will be covered.  It makes perfect sense because it has the potential to finally leverage the strength of the iPhone, up to the tablet and finally up to the Apple desktop.  Someone with all three of those devices controled by Apple would be locked in in a way that Bill G could hardly even fantasize about.  I'm sure by now the marketing boys at Apple have figured this all out in excruciating detail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No less a visionary than Bill Gates talked about the form factor problem years ago .
An iPhone is great for what it is--something you can fit in your pocket .
A desktop , at the other end , is good for what it does ( large screen , hefty processing and video power , etc ) .
Then there is the middle which is currently served by notebooks and , more recently , netbooks .
As an " ecosystem " play it makes perfect sense for Apple to have an offering that covers each form factor .
With the intro of a tablet you can have an Apple desktop , something intermediate and an iPhone-- all the current form factor bases will be covered .
It makes perfect sense because it has the potential to finally leverage the strength of the iPhone , up to the tablet and finally up to the Apple desktop .
Someone with all three of those devices controled by Apple would be locked in in a way that Bill G could hardly even fantasize about .
I 'm sure by now the marketing boys at Apple have figured this all out in excruciating detail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No less a visionary than Bill Gates talked about the form factor problem years ago.
An iPhone is great for what it is--something you can fit in your pocket.
A desktop, at the other end, is good for what it does (large screen, hefty processing and video power, etc).
Then there is the middle which is currently served by notebooks and, more recently, netbooks.
As an "ecosystem" play it makes perfect sense for Apple to have an offering that covers each form factor.
With the intro of a tablet you can have an Apple desktop, something intermediate and an iPhone-- all the current form factor bases will be covered.
It makes perfect sense because it has the potential to finally leverage the strength of the iPhone, up to the tablet and finally up to the Apple desktop.
Someone with all three of those devices controled by Apple would be locked in in a way that Bill G could hardly even fantasize about.
I'm sure by now the marketing boys at Apple have figured this all out in excruciating detail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917610</id>
	<title>Call me a Cynic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264609020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I am excited about this device I theorize it will be just good enough to sell and give some ooo's and aaaahhh's but largely it will fall short of the mark so we can buy the next models.  This is by design for good profitability.  However I think that if Apple releases a less than complete product now, they risk the google netbook or another slate device stealing the market from them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I am excited about this device I theorize it will be just good enough to sell and give some ooo 's and aaaahhh 's but largely it will fall short of the mark so we can buy the next models .
This is by design for good profitability .
However I think that if Apple releases a less than complete product now , they risk the google netbook or another slate device stealing the market from them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I am excited about this device I theorize it will be just good enough to sell and give some ooo's and aaaahhh's but largely it will fall short of the mark so we can buy the next models.
This is by design for good profitability.
However I think that if Apple releases a less than complete product now, they risk the google netbook or another slate device stealing the market from them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919176</id>
	<title>Re:Tablet PCs</title>
	<author>tibman</author>
	<datestamp>1264614780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know how you feel about older tablets and recently put mine through some upgrades.  I have a Hitachi VisionPlate.. basically one giant touch screen.  It came with XPe on it and now runs Puppy and Gentoo.  It currently has 512MB Ram, a 660MHz Crusoe proc (weird thing) with 3x 4GB MicroDrives for space.  Upgraded the wireless from b to g.</p><p>I was very happy being able to upgrade the thing from cheap junk on ebay.  I doubt Apple's tablet will sport that capability.</p><p>Pictures here: <a href="http://tibman.livejournal.com/59574.html" title="livejournal.com">http://tibman.livejournal.com/59574.html</a> [livejournal.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know how you feel about older tablets and recently put mine through some upgrades .
I have a Hitachi VisionPlate.. basically one giant touch screen .
It came with XPe on it and now runs Puppy and Gentoo .
It currently has 512MB Ram , a 660MHz Crusoe proc ( weird thing ) with 3x 4GB MicroDrives for space .
Upgraded the wireless from b to g.I was very happy being able to upgrade the thing from cheap junk on ebay .
I doubt Apple 's tablet will sport that capability.Pictures here : http : //tibman.livejournal.com/59574.html [ livejournal.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know how you feel about older tablets and recently put mine through some upgrades.
I have a Hitachi VisionPlate.. basically one giant touch screen.
It came with XPe on it and now runs Puppy and Gentoo.
It currently has 512MB Ram, a 660MHz Crusoe proc (weird thing) with 3x 4GB MicroDrives for space.
Upgraded the wireless from b to g.I was very happy being able to upgrade the thing from cheap junk on ebay.
I doubt Apple's tablet will sport that capability.Pictures here: http://tibman.livejournal.com/59574.html [livejournal.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918532</id>
	<title>"Double-size" iPod Touch</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264612320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they do that for roughly twice the price, with and without a cell modem option (cheaper without), it could sell, especially if they are throwing in new ebook media capabilities at the iTunes store.  It wouldn't be especially innovative, but it could be the same kind of well-crafted combination that the iPhone represents (plenty of companies built smartphones before).</p><p>It's a long shot, but what would be truly innovative would be if they could add some kind of remote desktop connection (transfer files / manipulate remotely / stream media, etc. over wireless) in a way that was even easier than iTunes to manage.  Kind of like a wireless Xterm for your Mac, where the desktop still does the heavy lifting, but you can control things remotely and view the results.  I'm doubtful we're there yet, although it is fun using ssh from my jailbroken iPod Touch, as long as there isn't too much typing to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they do that for roughly twice the price , with and without a cell modem option ( cheaper without ) , it could sell , especially if they are throwing in new ebook media capabilities at the iTunes store .
It would n't be especially innovative , but it could be the same kind of well-crafted combination that the iPhone represents ( plenty of companies built smartphones before ) .It 's a long shot , but what would be truly innovative would be if they could add some kind of remote desktop connection ( transfer files / manipulate remotely / stream media , etc .
over wireless ) in a way that was even easier than iTunes to manage .
Kind of like a wireless Xterm for your Mac , where the desktop still does the heavy lifting , but you can control things remotely and view the results .
I 'm doubtful we 're there yet , although it is fun using ssh from my jailbroken iPod Touch , as long as there is n't too much typing to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they do that for roughly twice the price, with and without a cell modem option (cheaper without), it could sell, especially if they are throwing in new ebook media capabilities at the iTunes store.
It wouldn't be especially innovative, but it could be the same kind of well-crafted combination that the iPhone represents (plenty of companies built smartphones before).It's a long shot, but what would be truly innovative would be if they could add some kind of remote desktop connection (transfer files / manipulate remotely / stream media, etc.
over wireless) in a way that was even easier than iTunes to manage.
Kind of like a wireless Xterm for your Mac, where the desktop still does the heavy lifting, but you can control things remotely and view the results.
I'm doubtful we're there yet, although it is fun using ssh from my jailbroken iPod Touch, as long as there isn't too much typing to do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917472</id>
	<title>Apple Bets Farm on Heterosexual Computing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264608420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>Apple Bets Farm on Heterosexual Computing - GNAA Members Offended</b> <p> <i>San Francisco, Ca - Mikhail Borovskiy (GNAP)</i> - Moments after the
announcement made by Steve Jobs that Apple would be changing the Macintosh
computing platform from a PowerPC  based CPU architecture to an Intel Pentium
based architecture, GNAA executives jesuitx and timecop were visibly shaken.
The announcement confirmed rumors started four days prior when C-Net News
reported that this change would be taking place. As C-Net News was the first
technical news source to report this story, most people assumed the truth would
be somewhere near the polar opposite of their findings.</p><p>"Guys what is going on? It seems Apple is trying to market towards
'Straighties'! That's never going to work! Fuck Apple, Apple is dead to me,
Apple hit WTC!" said jesuitx upon hearing the news. He was later seen backstage
speaking with Apple's Vice-President of Marketing, Phil Schiller, quoted as
saying "Phil, baby, this is massively fucked up. As a <a href="http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg" title="rr.com" rel="nofollow">typical
Macintosh user</a> [rr.com], and as a fellow Vice-President of Marketing [Gay Nigger
Association of America], I can tell you there's no amount of spin you could put
on this that will save you from losing support from the homosexual installed
base [all Macintosh users] that has kept Apple Computer alive for so many
years!"</p><p>timecop, founder and President of GNAA, is expected to renounce Apple, and
order the immediate purchase of Chinese made IBM computers by it's members, 87\%
of which are Macintosh users, at the July 8th Copperfield Conference to be held
in Kyoto, Japan. At the last Copperfield conference, held in Nome, Alaska,
timecop had praised Apple for their continuous support of the homosexual
community.</p><p>

<b>About Apple</b> </p><p>Until today, Apple Computer was the creator of the Macintosh, popularly
known as the "gay computer". 87\% of GNAA members were Mac users. Founded in
1974 by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, Apple was nearly out of business in the
mid 90's, when Jobs was rehired. He then started the now infamous iGay
marketing scheme which involved both the Step 2 ???? Profit model, and a 100\%
effort towards marketing to homosexuals. Apple is nowadays run by fuckfaced
retards.</p><p>
<b>About GNAA</b>:<br>
<b>GNAA</b> (<i>GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA</i>) is the first
organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one
common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.<br>
<br>
Are you <a href="http://klerck.org/spin.gif" title="klerck.org" rel="nofollow"> <b>GAY</b> </a> [klerck.org]?<br>
Are you a <a href="http://www.mugshots.org/sports/oj-simpson.jpg" title="mugshots.org" rel="nofollow"> <b>NIGGER</b> </a> [mugshots.org]?<br>
Are you a <a href="http://www.gay-sex-access.com/gay-black-sex.jpg" title="gay-sex-access.com" rel="nofollow"> <b>GAY NIGGER</b> </a> [gay-sex-access.com]?<br>
<br>
If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then <b>GNAA</b> (<i>GAY NIGGER
ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA</i>) might be exactly what you've been looking for!<br>
Join <b>GNAA</b> (<i>GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA</i>) today, and enjoy
all the benefits of being a full-time <b>GNAA</b> member.<br>
<b>GNAA</b> (<i>GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA</i>) is the fastest-growing
GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of
America and the World! You, too, can be a part of <b>GNAA</b> if you join
today!<br>
<br>
Why not? It's quick and easy - <b>only 3 simple steps!</b> </p><ul>
<li>First, you have to obtain a copy of <a href="http://us.imdb.com/Title?0274518" title="imdb.com" rel="nofollow"> <i>GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE</i> </a> [imdb.com] and watch it. You can <a href="http://pepper.idge.net/gnaa/gnfos\_dr.torrent" title="idge.net" rel="nofollow">download the movie</a> [idge.net] (~130mb) using BitTorrent.</li><li>Second, you need to succeed in posting a <b>GNAA</b> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First\_Post" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow"> <i>First Post</i> </a> [wikipedia.org] on <a href="http://slashdot.org/" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">slashdot.org</a> [slashdot.org], a popular "news for trolls" website.</li><li>Third, you need to join the official <b>GNAA</b> irc channel #GNAA on irc.gnaa.us, and apply for membership.</li></ul><p>
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to <b>sign up
tod</b></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple Bets Farm on Heterosexual Computing - GNAA Members Offended San Francisco , Ca - Mikhail Borovskiy ( GNAP ) - Moments after the announcement made by Steve Jobs that Apple would be changing the Macintosh computing platform from a PowerPC based CPU architecture to an Intel Pentium based architecture , GNAA executives jesuitx and timecop were visibly shaken .
The announcement confirmed rumors started four days prior when C-Net News reported that this change would be taking place .
As C-Net News was the first technical news source to report this story , most people assumed the truth would be somewhere near the polar opposite of their findings .
" Guys what is going on ?
It seems Apple is trying to market towards 'Straighties ' !
That 's never going to work !
Fuck Apple , Apple is dead to me , Apple hit WTC !
" said jesuitx upon hearing the news .
He was later seen backstage speaking with Apple 's Vice-President of Marketing , Phil Schiller , quoted as saying " Phil , baby , this is massively fucked up .
As a typical Macintosh user [ rr.com ] , and as a fellow Vice-President of Marketing [ Gay Nigger Association of America ] , I can tell you there 's no amount of spin you could put on this that will save you from losing support from the homosexual installed base [ all Macintosh users ] that has kept Apple Computer alive for so many years !
" timecop , founder and President of GNAA , is expected to renounce Apple , and order the immediate purchase of Chinese made IBM computers by it 's members , 87 \ % of which are Macintosh users , at the July 8th Copperfield Conference to be held in Kyoto , Japan .
At the last Copperfield conference , held in Nome , Alaska , timecop had praised Apple for their continuous support of the homosexual community .
About Apple Until today , Apple Computer was the creator of the Macintosh , popularly known as the " gay computer " .
87 \ % of GNAA members were Mac users .
Founded in 1974 by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak , Apple was nearly out of business in the mid 90 's , when Jobs was rehired .
He then started the now infamous iGay marketing scheme which involved both the Step 2 ? ? ? ?
Profit model , and a 100 \ % effort towards marketing to homosexuals .
Apple is nowadays run by fuckfaced retards .
About GNAA : GNAA ( GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA ) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS .
Are you GAY [ klerck.org ] ?
Are you a NIGGER [ mugshots.org ] ?
Are you a GAY NIGGER [ gay-sex-access.com ] ?
If you answered " Yes " to all of the above questions , then GNAA ( GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA ) might be exactly what you 've been looking for !
Join GNAA ( GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA ) today , and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member .
GNAA ( GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA ) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World !
You , too , can be a part of GNAA if you join today !
Why not ?
It 's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps !
First , you have to obtain a copy of GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE [ imdb.com ] and watch it .
You can download the movie [ idge.net ] ( ~ 130mb ) using BitTorrent.Second , you need to succeed in posting a GNAA First Post [ wikipedia.org ] on slashdot.org [ slashdot.org ] , a popular " news for trolls " website.Third , you need to join the official GNAA irc channel # GNAA on irc.gnaa.us , and apply for membership .
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up tod</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple Bets Farm on Heterosexual Computing - GNAA Members Offended  San Francisco, Ca - Mikhail Borovskiy (GNAP) - Moments after the
announcement made by Steve Jobs that Apple would be changing the Macintosh
computing platform from a PowerPC  based CPU architecture to an Intel Pentium
based architecture, GNAA executives jesuitx and timecop were visibly shaken.
The announcement confirmed rumors started four days prior when C-Net News
reported that this change would be taking place.
As C-Net News was the first
technical news source to report this story, most people assumed the truth would
be somewhere near the polar opposite of their findings.
"Guys what is going on?
It seems Apple is trying to market towards
'Straighties'!
That's never going to work!
Fuck Apple, Apple is dead to me,
Apple hit WTC!
" said jesuitx upon hearing the news.
He was later seen backstage
speaking with Apple's Vice-President of Marketing, Phil Schiller, quoted as
saying "Phil, baby, this is massively fucked up.
As a typical
Macintosh user [rr.com], and as a fellow Vice-President of Marketing [Gay Nigger
Association of America], I can tell you there's no amount of spin you could put
on this that will save you from losing support from the homosexual installed
base [all Macintosh users] that has kept Apple Computer alive for so many
years!
"timecop, founder and President of GNAA, is expected to renounce Apple, and
order the immediate purchase of Chinese made IBM computers by it's members, 87\%
of which are Macintosh users, at the July 8th Copperfield Conference to be held
in Kyoto, Japan.
At the last Copperfield conference, held in Nome, Alaska,
timecop had praised Apple for their continuous support of the homosexual
community.
About Apple Until today, Apple Computer was the creator of the Macintosh, popularly
known as the "gay computer".
87\% of GNAA members were Mac users.
Founded in
1974 by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, Apple was nearly out of business in the
mid 90's, when Jobs was rehired.
He then started the now infamous iGay
marketing scheme which involved both the Step 2 ????
Profit model, and a 100\%
effort towards marketing to homosexuals.
Apple is nowadays run by fuckfaced
retards.
About GNAA:
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first
organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one
common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.
Are you  GAY  [klerck.org]?
Are you a  NIGGER  [mugshots.org]?
Are you a  GAY NIGGER  [gay-sex-access.com]?
If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER
ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for!
Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy
all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member.
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing
GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of
America and the World!
You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join
today!
Why not?
It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!
First, you have to obtain a copy of  GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE  [imdb.com] and watch it.
You can download the movie [idge.net] (~130mb) using BitTorrent.Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA  First Post  [wikipedia.org] on slashdot.org [slashdot.org], a popular "news for trolls" website.Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on irc.gnaa.us, and apply for membership.
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up
tod</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Confirmed!</title>
	<author>Minwee</author>
	<datestamp>1264618560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And it also makes perfect paninis every time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And it also makes perfect paninis every time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it also makes perfect paninis every time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917486</id>
	<title>Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>schmidt349</author>
	<datestamp>1264608480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure it could be the next G4 Cube, but I think Apple's approach to emerging new computing niches gives them a fighting chance. Microsoft just throws Windows on the device complete with all the crappy desktop metaphors and UI widgets that are completely irrelevant to the new form factor -- witness Windows Mobile and all the Windows tablets. Apple at least rethinks usability.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure it could be the next G4 Cube , but I think Apple 's approach to emerging new computing niches gives them a fighting chance .
Microsoft just throws Windows on the device complete with all the crappy desktop metaphors and UI widgets that are completely irrelevant to the new form factor -- witness Windows Mobile and all the Windows tablets .
Apple at least rethinks usability .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure it could be the next G4 Cube, but I think Apple's approach to emerging new computing niches gives them a fighting chance.
Microsoft just throws Windows on the device complete with all the crappy desktop metaphors and UI widgets that are completely irrelevant to the new form factor -- witness Windows Mobile and all the Windows tablets.
Apple at least rethinks usability.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917932</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1264610220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't mind Apple trying new things, but I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially "New".</p><p>It sounds like it'll be either an IPhone thats too big to fit in my pocket, or a small, touchscreen Netbook, Whereas I don't particularily have a need. If it doesn't fit in my pocket, it goes in a bag. If I'm putting it in a bag, the bag is about the size of a brief case. I don't see where in my adventures it'll be any more practical for me to pull out a tablet than it will be to pull out a Macbook.</p><p>I honestly think Microsofts Touch-Table-Top-Screen-Thing has more applications than this. But all in all, they are both "Meh" products.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't mind Apple trying new things , but I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially " New " .It sounds like it 'll be either an IPhone thats too big to fit in my pocket , or a small , touchscreen Netbook , Whereas I do n't particularily have a need .
If it does n't fit in my pocket , it goes in a bag .
If I 'm putting it in a bag , the bag is about the size of a brief case .
I do n't see where in my adventures it 'll be any more practical for me to pull out a tablet than it will be to pull out a Macbook.I honestly think Microsofts Touch-Table-Top-Screen-Thing has more applications than this .
But all in all , they are both " Meh " products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't mind Apple trying new things, but I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially "New".It sounds like it'll be either an IPhone thats too big to fit in my pocket, or a small, touchscreen Netbook, Whereas I don't particularily have a need.
If it doesn't fit in my pocket, it goes in a bag.
If I'm putting it in a bag, the bag is about the size of a brief case.
I don't see where in my adventures it'll be any more practical for me to pull out a tablet than it will be to pull out a Macbook.I honestly think Microsofts Touch-Table-Top-Screen-Thing has more applications than this.
But all in all, they are both "Meh" products.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919626</id>
	<title>Re:Tablet PCs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264616460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They may not be first, but I doubt they were just waiting for the problems to be solved.  The tablet has been in development (AFAIK) for about 3+ years and constantly sent back by Jobs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They may not be first , but I doubt they were just waiting for the problems to be solved .
The tablet has been in development ( AFAIK ) for about 3 + years and constantly sent back by Jobs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They may not be first, but I doubt they were just waiting for the problems to be solved.
The tablet has been in development (AFAIK) for about 3+ years and constantly sent back by Jobs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919338</id>
	<title>Writing is a bad interface.</title>
	<author>harl</author>
	<datestamp>1264615440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the product turns out to be Apple's ebook reader then ignore what's below as it only applies to tablet computing.</p><p>Tablet computing has been tried over and over.  It always fails.  I don't think this is a technology limitation I think it's an interface limitation.</p><p>First off writing is slow.  The key board is some thing we did right early on.  Maybe it would work better with an eastern word level character based language rather than a western letter level character based language.</p><p>Second my hand writing is shit.  I'm not unique in this.  Sometimes I can't read it.  I don't expect others to read it and and if capchas still work then computers are going to have trouble with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the product turns out to be Apple 's ebook reader then ignore what 's below as it only applies to tablet computing.Tablet computing has been tried over and over .
It always fails .
I do n't think this is a technology limitation I think it 's an interface limitation.First off writing is slow .
The key board is some thing we did right early on .
Maybe it would work better with an eastern word level character based language rather than a western letter level character based language.Second my hand writing is shit .
I 'm not unique in this .
Sometimes I ca n't read it .
I do n't expect others to read it and and if capchas still work then computers are going to have trouble with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the product turns out to be Apple's ebook reader then ignore what's below as it only applies to tablet computing.Tablet computing has been tried over and over.
It always fails.
I don't think this is a technology limitation I think it's an interface limitation.First off writing is slow.
The key board is some thing we did right early on.
Maybe it would work better with an eastern word level character based language rather than a western letter level character based language.Second my hand writing is shit.
I'm not unique in this.
Sometimes I can't read it.
I don't expect others to read it and and if capchas still work then computers are going to have trouble with it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920248</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1264619040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The committee, however, is devoted to profit margins and not usability.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The committee , however , is devoted to profit margins and not usability .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The committee, however, is devoted to profit margins and not usability.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919374</id>
	<title>Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook</title>
	<author>yabos</author>
	<datestamp>1264615560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"I doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet...."<br> <br>
Why wouldn't they?  They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't.  It might run existing iPhone apps but running on a tablet is different and running your app with an interactive debugger like you can do with the iPhone or iPod Touch is a necessity if it's going to run 3rd party apps.  The iPhone took off because of the App Store.  While I hope this tablet, if it's true, is not tied directly to the app store, it should at least be able to have 3rd party apps running on it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet.... " Why would n't they ?
They 'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they did n't .
It might run existing iPhone apps but running on a tablet is different and running your app with an interactive debugger like you can do with the iPhone or iPod Touch is a necessity if it 's going to run 3rd party apps .
The iPhone took off because of the App Store .
While I hope this tablet , if it 's true , is not tied directly to the app store , it should at least be able to have 3rd party apps running on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet...." 
Why wouldn't they?
They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't.
It might run existing iPhone apps but running on a tablet is different and running your app with an interactive debugger like you can do with the iPhone or iPod Touch is a necessity if it's going to run 3rd party apps.
The iPhone took off because of the App Store.
While I hope this tablet, if it's true, is not tied directly to the app store, it should at least be able to have 3rd party apps running on it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919504</id>
	<title>Hysteria</title>
	<author>Aphoxema</author>
	<datestamp>1264615980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple probably had no intent to make an "iTablet" until this hysteria started. They have the unique position where they can probe their market effortlessly just by consumer speculation.</p><p>"I wonder what an Apple tablet computer would be like..."</p><p>"Yeah, that would be cool, an Apple tablet"</p><p>"THERE'S AN APPLE TABLET COMING OUT!?"</p><p>"Dude I bet they'll call it the iTablet!"</p><p>"No, iBoard or something would be way more Different"</p><p>"No no no, they're calling it the iSlate, this dude told me, he's like, on the inside and shit!"</p><p>"Oh, man, I can't wait until the iSlate comes out!"</p><p>Apple: "We neither admit nor refuse the possibility of an Apple crafted tablet PC, but trust us, if <em>we</em> did it it would be super awesome."</p><p>"OMG APPLE SAYS THEY'RE COMING OUT WITH AN APPLE TABLET SEE YOU IN CUPERTINO!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple probably had no intent to make an " iTablet " until this hysteria started .
They have the unique position where they can probe their market effortlessly just by consumer speculation .
" I wonder what an Apple tablet computer would be like... " " Yeah , that would be cool , an Apple tablet " " THERE 'S AN APPLE TABLET COMING OUT ! ?
" " Dude I bet they 'll call it the iTablet !
" " No , iBoard or something would be way more Different " " No no no , they 're calling it the iSlate , this dude told me , he 's like , on the inside and shit !
" " Oh , man , I ca n't wait until the iSlate comes out !
" Apple : " We neither admit nor refuse the possibility of an Apple crafted tablet PC , but trust us , if we did it it would be super awesome .
" " OMG APPLE SAYS THEY 'RE COMING OUT WITH AN APPLE TABLET SEE YOU IN CUPERTINO !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple probably had no intent to make an "iTablet" until this hysteria started.
They have the unique position where they can probe their market effortlessly just by consumer speculation.
"I wonder what an Apple tablet computer would be like...""Yeah, that would be cool, an Apple tablet""THERE'S AN APPLE TABLET COMING OUT!?
""Dude I bet they'll call it the iTablet!
""No, iBoard or something would be way more Different""No no no, they're calling it the iSlate, this dude told me, he's like, on the inside and shit!
""Oh, man, I can't wait until the iSlate comes out!
"Apple: "We neither admit nor refuse the possibility of an Apple crafted tablet PC, but trust us, if we did it it would be super awesome.
""OMG APPLE SAYS THEY'RE COMING OUT WITH AN APPLE TABLET SEE YOU IN CUPERTINO!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918774</id>
	<title>OMG</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264613160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a new mac item!</p><p>My mac-gina is pulsating with excitement!</p><p>I have to buy it or I won't be cool!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...bunch of tools...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a new mac item ! My mac-gina is pulsating with excitement ! I have to buy it or I wo n't be cool !
...bunch of tools.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a new mac item!My mac-gina is pulsating with excitement!I have to buy it or I won't be cool!
...bunch of tools...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918548</id>
	<title>Re:Best rumor source yet...</title>
	<author>swb</author>
	<datestamp>1264612320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm just in love enough with my iPhone to buy one right away, but ONLY if I can get it without a manditory cell service.</p><p>I see this as an around-the-house, wifi kind of device and would not haul it around (I already haul around my laptop for work and my iPhone, hard to see this replacing/replicating either).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm just in love enough with my iPhone to buy one right away , but ONLY if I can get it without a manditory cell service.I see this as an around-the-house , wifi kind of device and would not haul it around ( I already haul around my laptop for work and my iPhone , hard to see this replacing/replicating either ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm just in love enough with my iPhone to buy one right away, but ONLY if I can get it without a manditory cell service.I see this as an around-the-house, wifi kind of device and would not haul it around (I already haul around my laptop for work and my iPhone, hard to see this replacing/replicating either).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919276</id>
	<title>Re:TV and Kindle Competitor</title>
	<author>Ma8thew</author>
	<datestamp>1264615200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>HDTV antenna? No way. Apple have never provided an official TV tuning solution, I don't see them starting now. They are pushing the iTunes store has a content source hard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>HDTV antenna ?
No way .
Apple have never provided an official TV tuning solution , I do n't see them starting now .
They are pushing the iTunes store has a content source hard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HDTV antenna?
No way.
Apple have never provided an official TV tuning solution, I don't see them starting now.
They are pushing the iTunes store has a content source hard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919262</id>
	<title>Re:Confirmed!</title>
	<author>christurkel</author>
	<datestamp>1264615140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lame because it won't stop Slashdot editors from posting dupes. If it had that built in, I'd buy it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lame because it wo n't stop Slashdot editors from posting dupes .
If it had that built in , I 'd buy it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lame because it won't stop Slashdot editors from posting dupes.
If it had that built in, I'd buy it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918200</id>
	<title>What, and end the habits of a lifetime?</title>
	<author>Kupfernigk</author>
	<datestamp>1264611060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Half the Internet is porn, half of it is unverified rumors. Only one tenth of it is actually useful.*<p>*Yes, I know this adds up to more than one. Five percent is overlap (some porn and rumors are useful) and five percent is because since you did the last survey, traffic has gone up by 5\%.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Half the Internet is porn , half of it is unverified rumors .
Only one tenth of it is actually useful .
* * Yes , I know this adds up to more than one .
Five percent is overlap ( some porn and rumors are useful ) and five percent is because since you did the last survey , traffic has gone up by 5 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Half the Internet is porn, half of it is unverified rumors.
Only one tenth of it is actually useful.
**Yes, I know this adds up to more than one.
Five percent is overlap (some porn and rumors are useful) and five percent is because since you did the last survey, traffic has gone up by 5\%.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917756</id>
	<title>Major Scoop</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264609500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple will today announce a partnership with Taco Bell to deliver tacos wirelessly through the new iTablet. This will prove to be the final nail in OLPC's coffin as the west moves to end world hunger via electronic food distribution.</p><p>Also it will wash the dishes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple will today announce a partnership with Taco Bell to deliver tacos wirelessly through the new iTablet .
This will prove to be the final nail in OLPC 's coffin as the west moves to end world hunger via electronic food distribution.Also it will wash the dishes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple will today announce a partnership with Taco Bell to deliver tacos wirelessly through the new iTablet.
This will prove to be the final nail in OLPC's coffin as the west moves to end world hunger via electronic food distribution.Also it will wash the dishes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918414</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264611960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially "New".</p></div></blockquote><p>
Lock-in.  Ten years ago, would anyone have predicted that products like the iPhone or the Kindle could possibly have any success at all?  Back then, it looked like there was a trend toward more freedom, and new products would be competing to be more open and usable than one another.
</p><p>
Somehow, in the last decade, the personal computer market has <strong>accepted</strong> (in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products) that personal computers don't need to be totally open to developers; that personal computers can use the same development model as video game consoles, and some people (maybe a minority, but a big enough niche to make a profit and get a SHITLOAD of publicity) will actually buy them.
</p><p>
So what's new here?  Well, look at the tablets of the past: they were programmable by the Little People.  They were personal computers in the old sense, where when you bought one, you totally owned it, and you could even start a software business on one if you wanted to, with no limits to what you could do.  Not this time. This time it's going to be closed up, have a centralized app store that only sells approved products, <em>and yet people are considering it newsworthy and even predict some success.</em>
</p><p>
This isn't some obscure wackjob company that you can safely laugh at by default when they try to commit atrocities against hackers; it's <em>Apple.</em>  The atrocities are there, but not the laughter.  The mockery will be there, but tinged with a very real feeling of fear and bitterness.  This fucking piece of shit just might still be in the news the day after tomorrow.  And that's sobering.  We're nearing the end of the personal computer revolution that took off about 3 decades ago.  We're seeing Apple destroy something that they played such an important part in creating.  That's <em>news.</em>  First it was the handheld, now it's something bigger.  In a few years: the desktop?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially " New " .
Lock-in. Ten years ago , would anyone have predicted that products like the iPhone or the Kindle could possibly have any success at all ?
Back then , it looked like there was a trend toward more freedom , and new products would be competing to be more open and usable than one another .
Somehow , in the last decade , the personal computer market has accepted ( in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products ) that personal computers do n't need to be totally open to developers ; that personal computers can use the same development model as video game consoles , and some people ( maybe a minority , but a big enough niche to make a profit and get a SHITLOAD of publicity ) will actually buy them .
So what 's new here ?
Well , look at the tablets of the past : they were programmable by the Little People .
They were personal computers in the old sense , where when you bought one , you totally owned it , and you could even start a software business on one if you wanted to , with no limits to what you could do .
Not this time .
This time it 's going to be closed up , have a centralized app store that only sells approved products , and yet people are considering it newsworthy and even predict some success .
This is n't some obscure wackjob company that you can safely laugh at by default when they try to commit atrocities against hackers ; it 's Apple .
The atrocities are there , but not the laughter .
The mockery will be there , but tinged with a very real feeling of fear and bitterness .
This fucking piece of shit just might still be in the news the day after tomorrow .
And that 's sobering .
We 're nearing the end of the personal computer revolution that took off about 3 decades ago .
We 're seeing Apple destroy something that they played such an important part in creating .
That 's news .
First it was the handheld , now it 's something bigger .
In a few years : the desktop ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially "New".
Lock-in.  Ten years ago, would anyone have predicted that products like the iPhone or the Kindle could possibly have any success at all?
Back then, it looked like there was a trend toward more freedom, and new products would be competing to be more open and usable than one another.
Somehow, in the last decade, the personal computer market has accepted (in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products) that personal computers don't need to be totally open to developers; that personal computers can use the same development model as video game consoles, and some people (maybe a minority, but a big enough niche to make a profit and get a SHITLOAD of publicity) will actually buy them.
So what's new here?
Well, look at the tablets of the past: they were programmable by the Little People.
They were personal computers in the old sense, where when you bought one, you totally owned it, and you could even start a software business on one if you wanted to, with no limits to what you could do.
Not this time.
This time it's going to be closed up, have a centralized app store that only sells approved products, and yet people are considering it newsworthy and even predict some success.
This isn't some obscure wackjob company that you can safely laugh at by default when they try to commit atrocities against hackers; it's Apple.
The atrocities are there, but not the laughter.
The mockery will be there, but tinged with a very real feeling of fear and bitterness.
This fucking piece of shit just might still be in the news the day after tomorrow.
And that's sobering.
We're nearing the end of the personal computer revolution that took off about 3 decades ago.
We're seeing Apple destroy something that they played such an important part in creating.
That's news.
First it was the handheld, now it's something bigger.
In a few years: the desktop?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917806</id>
	<title>Speculating on rumour is pointless</title>
	<author>benwiggy</author>
	<datestamp>1264609740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OFFS. </p><p>Whilst I'm intrigued by the rumours (half of which are Apple-generated to build up hype, the other of which are created by people who think they know what's in Steve's head), comment on them is pretty pointless, and falls into the following categories:</p><p>[  ] No one will buy this. Epic fail.</p><p>[  ] Missed opportunity to add technology X</p><p>[  ] I like it, but it's too expensive</p><p>[  ] This is going to change everything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OFFS .
Whilst I 'm intrigued by the rumours ( half of which are Apple-generated to build up hype , the other of which are created by people who think they know what 's in Steve 's head ) , comment on them is pretty pointless , and falls into the following categories : [ ] No one will buy this .
Epic fail .
[ ] Missed opportunity to add technology X [ ] I like it , but it 's too expensive [ ] This is going to change everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OFFS.
Whilst I'm intrigued by the rumours (half of which are Apple-generated to build up hype, the other of which are created by people who think they know what's in Steve's head), comment on them is pretty pointless, and falls into the following categories:[  ] No one will buy this.
Epic fail.
[  ] Missed opportunity to add technology X[  ] I like it, but it's too expensive[  ] This is going to change everything.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919744</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>dilvish\_the\_damned</author>
	<datestamp>1264617000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you claim "meh" on my iTablet thingy, this will only increase my smugness because we both know you secretly want one. Even if you really don't. the more you deny it, the more the rest of us will know you really really do.</p><p>Go ahead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you claim " meh " on my iTablet thingy , this will only increase my smugness because we both know you secretly want one .
Even if you really do n't .
the more you deny it , the more the rest of us will know you really really do.Go ahead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you claim "meh" on my iTablet thingy, this will only increase my smugness because we both know you secretly want one.
Even if you really don't.
the more you deny it, the more the rest of us will know you really really do.Go ahead.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30922266</id>
	<title>Re:Best rumor source yet...</title>
	<author>Admiralbumblebee</author>
	<datestamp>1264624020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just have to point out that he was completely wrong.

Not that anyone should expect anything different from the guy. It's kinda his MO to just spout mindless bullshit to get publicity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just have to point out that he was completely wrong .
Not that anyone should expect anything different from the guy .
It 's kinda his MO to just spout mindless bullshit to get publicity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just have to point out that he was completely wrong.
Not that anyone should expect anything different from the guy.
It's kinda his MO to just spout mindless bullshit to get publicity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919094</id>
	<title>Re:Apple tablet and SAAB</title>
	<author>geektweaked.com</author>
	<datestamp>1264614540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I get the BMW reference, but is the "all-black carbon fibre reinforced case" a ThinkPad reference?  If so, I will agree heartily, though it's only a matter of time before Lenovo completely ruins these things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get the BMW reference , but is the " all-black carbon fibre reinforced case " a ThinkPad reference ?
If so , I will agree heartily , though it 's only a matter of time before Lenovo completely ruins these things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get the BMW reference, but is the "all-black carbon fibre reinforced case" a ThinkPad reference?
If so, I will agree heartily, though it's only a matter of time before Lenovo completely ruins these things.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920552</id>
	<title>It is confirmed, the iPad</title>
	<author>riker1384</author>
	<datestamp>1264620000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're showing it now. It's called the iPad and it looks like a big iPod Touch or iPhone. Big-ass touchscreen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're showing it now .
It 's called the iPad and it looks like a big iPod Touch or iPhone .
Big-ass touchscreen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're showing it now.
It's called the iPad and it looks like a big iPod Touch or iPhone.
Big-ass touchscreen.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920598</id>
	<title>It's an ipad</title>
	<author>achten</author>
	<datestamp>1264620120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is one already
<a href="http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/business/ipad.html" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/business/ipad.html</a> [apple.com]

Er sorry it is iPad not ipad</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is one already http : //www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/business/ipad.html [ apple.com ] Er sorry it is iPad not ipad</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is one already
http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/business/ipad.html [apple.com]

Er sorry it is iPad not ipad</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919174</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reading this, I can't help but think of...<blockquote><div><p> <a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/1816257" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.</a> [slashdot.org]</p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reading this , I ca n't help but think of... No wireless .
Less space than a nomad .
Lame. [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reading this, I can't help but think of... No wireless.
Less space than a nomad.
Lame. [slashdot.org] 
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919570</id>
	<title>Two more items</title>
	<author>commodoresloat</author>
	<datestamp>1264616220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>-Wireless<br>-More space than a Nomad</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>-Wireless-More space than a Nomad</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-Wireless-More space than a Nomad</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918800</id>
	<title>Ok, this will be it...</title>
	<author>thrill12</author>
	<datestamp>1264613280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>. screen of 1024 * 800, e-ink and LCD combined
. 1GB memory
. 64GB flash
. 1GHz+ Atom CPU
. wlan 802.11n
. battery life 16 hours
. no multi-touch capacitive touchscreen as it uses a stylus for input
. onscreen keyboard input as well as handwriting recognition
. easy note sharing across multiple tablets (wireless, compare iphone bumping)
. speech synthesis built-in
. multimedia capabilities limited
. color grey

Let's see how right I was...</htmltext>
<tokenext>.
screen of 1024 * 800 , e-ink and LCD combined .
1GB memory .
64GB flash .
1GHz + Atom CPU .
wlan 802.11n .
battery life 16 hours .
no multi-touch capacitive touchscreen as it uses a stylus for input .
onscreen keyboard input as well as handwriting recognition .
easy note sharing across multiple tablets ( wireless , compare iphone bumping ) .
speech synthesis built-in .
multimedia capabilities limited .
color grey Let 's see how right I was.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.
screen of 1024 * 800, e-ink and LCD combined
.
1GB memory
.
64GB flash
.
1GHz+ Atom CPU
.
wlan 802.11n
.
battery life 16 hours
.
no multi-touch capacitive touchscreen as it uses a stylus for input
.
onscreen keyboard input as well as handwriting recognition
.
easy note sharing across multiple tablets (wireless, compare iphone bumping)
.
speech synthesis built-in
.
multimedia capabilities limited
.
color grey

Let's see how right I was...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920134</id>
	<title>Service Outage</title>
	<author>RedTeflon</author>
	<datestamp>1264618620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With all those iphone users in one place lets see if it brings the AT&amp;T network to a stall yet again.
<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</htmltext>
<tokenext>With all those iphone users in one place lets see if it brings the AT&amp;T network to a stall yet again .
Sent from my iPhone</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With all those iphone users in one place lets see if it brings the AT&amp;T network to a stall yet again.
Sent from my iPhone</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30925392</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Phoenix138</author>
	<datestamp>1264589220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"Terry, you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living. Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity."</p></div></blockquote><p>

If I could, I would give you all of my karma points right now. Absolutely brilliant.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Terry , you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living .
Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity .
" If I could , I would give you all of my karma points right now .
Absolutely brilliant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Terry, you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living.
Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity.
"

If I could, I would give you all of my karma points right now.
Absolutely brilliant.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917586</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918442</id>
	<title>Re:If it doesn't allow</title>
	<author>mikael\_j</author>
	<datestamp>1264612020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I feel the same way except instead of note-taking I want to be able to sketch/draw/paint with it, it doesn't have to be a full-fledged Painter clone but a decent digitizer (on-par with say, the old Graphire3) and something along the lines of Sketchbook Pro (damn good program with only one real shortcoming, there is no way to rotate your workspace unless you actually want to rotate the actual image which results on data loss over the long run, but it's sweet on a tablet or a Cintiq).</p><p>/Mikael</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I feel the same way except instead of note-taking I want to be able to sketch/draw/paint with it , it does n't have to be a full-fledged Painter clone but a decent digitizer ( on-par with say , the old Graphire3 ) and something along the lines of Sketchbook Pro ( damn good program with only one real shortcoming , there is no way to rotate your workspace unless you actually want to rotate the actual image which results on data loss over the long run , but it 's sweet on a tablet or a Cintiq ) ./Mikael</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I feel the same way except instead of note-taking I want to be able to sketch/draw/paint with it, it doesn't have to be a full-fledged Painter clone but a decent digitizer (on-par with say, the old Graphire3) and something along the lines of Sketchbook Pro (damn good program with only one real shortcoming, there is no way to rotate your workspace unless you actually want to rotate the actual image which results on data loss over the long run, but it's sweet on a tablet or a Cintiq)./Mikael</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917900</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917998</id>
	<title>Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch</title>
	<author>neoform</author>
	<datestamp>1264610400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Handwriting recognition technology/research is even further off than speech recognition. If it's included, it will surely be a stapled on feature and not something core to the product.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Handwriting recognition technology/research is even further off than speech recognition .
If it 's included , it will surely be a stapled on feature and not something core to the product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Handwriting recognition technology/research is even further off than speech recognition.
If it's included, it will surely be a stapled on feature and not something core to the product.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917594</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918828</id>
	<title>Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch</title>
	<author>EvanED</author>
	<datestamp>1264613460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got a tablet PC (i.e. a convertible tablet) and the handwriting recognition is actually pretty good, at least when you stay within English words. Sometimes things like URLs can make you go letter-by-letter, and there seems to be little hope of it getting to recognize math and such*, but it's plenty usable. OneNote even has what I call "fuzzy" handwriting recognition, in that if what you write can match a couple different words, searching your notes for either one will produce a match. (In this way it's actually way better than converting the whole document using handwriting recognition, which fares pretty poorly in spite of what I said about the overall state of things.)</p><p>(* At least Win7 actually has a "math input panel" where you can write mathematical expressions -- reasonable complex ones too, e.g. with integral symbols and such -- but it's not something I think you're likely to use.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a tablet PC ( i.e .
a convertible tablet ) and the handwriting recognition is actually pretty good , at least when you stay within English words .
Sometimes things like URLs can make you go letter-by-letter , and there seems to be little hope of it getting to recognize math and such * , but it 's plenty usable .
OneNote even has what I call " fuzzy " handwriting recognition , in that if what you write can match a couple different words , searching your notes for either one will produce a match .
( In this way it 's actually way better than converting the whole document using handwriting recognition , which fares pretty poorly in spite of what I said about the overall state of things .
) ( * At least Win7 actually has a " math input panel " where you can write mathematical expressions -- reasonable complex ones too , e.g .
with integral symbols and such -- but it 's not something I think you 're likely to use .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a tablet PC (i.e.
a convertible tablet) and the handwriting recognition is actually pretty good, at least when you stay within English words.
Sometimes things like URLs can make you go letter-by-letter, and there seems to be little hope of it getting to recognize math and such*, but it's plenty usable.
OneNote even has what I call "fuzzy" handwriting recognition, in that if what you write can match a couple different words, searching your notes for either one will produce a match.
(In this way it's actually way better than converting the whole document using handwriting recognition, which fares pretty poorly in spite of what I said about the overall state of things.
)(* At least Win7 actually has a "math input panel" where you can write mathematical expressions -- reasonable complex ones too, e.g.
with integral symbols and such -- but it's not something I think you're likely to use.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917998</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920090</id>
	<title>Don't Want</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1264618500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't get the hype this time around. I don't need a bigger iPhone. I need a smaller laptop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get the hype this time around .
I do n't need a bigger iPhone .
I need a smaller laptop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get the hype this time around.
I don't need a bigger iPhone.
I need a smaller laptop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917838</id>
	<title>Apple tablet and SAAB</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264609800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Both on the same day. Those of us for whom it's only a frigging computer or only a frigging car can get on with some work.<p>The funny thing is, I can remember when SAABs were above the run of middle manager mobiles, and when Apple hardware really was superior to much of the competition. But those days are long gone.</p><p>The thing to watch - the thing that car makers and vanity goods makers don't tell you - is the percentage of their budget that is marketing. The really good stuff is the stuff that is not cheap but sells with hardly any marketing budget.</p><p>Being old and boring I shall continue to make do with my laptop that has an all-black carbon fibre reinforced case and my car that has a little silver propeller for a brand symbol. After several years of heavy use of both I can't find anything that would persuade me to change. It would certainly take a bit more than a tablet PC or a car brought to you by the guys who produced the Lada.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Both on the same day .
Those of us for whom it 's only a frigging computer or only a frigging car can get on with some work.The funny thing is , I can remember when SAABs were above the run of middle manager mobiles , and when Apple hardware really was superior to much of the competition .
But those days are long gone.The thing to watch - the thing that car makers and vanity goods makers do n't tell you - is the percentage of their budget that is marketing .
The really good stuff is the stuff that is not cheap but sells with hardly any marketing budget.Being old and boring I shall continue to make do with my laptop that has an all-black carbon fibre reinforced case and my car that has a little silver propeller for a brand symbol .
After several years of heavy use of both I ca n't find anything that would persuade me to change .
It would certainly take a bit more than a tablet PC or a car brought to you by the guys who produced the Lada .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both on the same day.
Those of us for whom it's only a frigging computer or only a frigging car can get on with some work.The funny thing is, I can remember when SAABs were above the run of middle manager mobiles, and when Apple hardware really was superior to much of the competition.
But those days are long gone.The thing to watch - the thing that car makers and vanity goods makers don't tell you - is the percentage of their budget that is marketing.
The really good stuff is the stuff that is not cheap but sells with hardly any marketing budget.Being old and boring I shall continue to make do with my laptop that has an all-black carbon fibre reinforced case and my car that has a little silver propeller for a brand symbol.
After several years of heavy use of both I can't find anything that would persuade me to change.
It would certainly take a bit more than a tablet PC or a car brought to you by the guys who produced the Lada.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919028</id>
	<title>Tablet appeals to me...</title>
	<author>PottedMeat</author>
	<datestamp>1264614240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't own a smartphone and probably never will.  Why?  I don't care for doing much of anything on a tiny screen and I'm certainly not going to spend an extra $30 a month for a data plan that gives me a window of that size to the internet.
<br> <br>
I do own a laptop which is great to have but it's just too clunky to carry around and to deploy in any random wifi hotspot that I come across.  Sure I did that at first but eventually got tired of it.
<br> <br>
A tablet hits a perfect middle ground for me.  It's large enough for me to read any ebooks, etc that I have and gives me a screen large enough to provide a laptop-like internet experience.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't own a smartphone and probably never will .
Why ? I do n't care for doing much of anything on a tiny screen and I 'm certainly not going to spend an extra $ 30 a month for a data plan that gives me a window of that size to the internet .
I do own a laptop which is great to have but it 's just too clunky to carry around and to deploy in any random wifi hotspot that I come across .
Sure I did that at first but eventually got tired of it .
A tablet hits a perfect middle ground for me .
It 's large enough for me to read any ebooks , etc that I have and gives me a screen large enough to provide a laptop-like internet experience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't own a smartphone and probably never will.
Why?  I don't care for doing much of anything on a tiny screen and I'm certainly not going to spend an extra $30 a month for a data plan that gives me a window of that size to the internet.
I do own a laptop which is great to have but it's just too clunky to carry around and to deploy in any random wifi hotspot that I come across.
Sure I did that at first but eventually got tired of it.
A tablet hits a perfect middle ground for me.
It's large enough for me to read any ebooks, etc that I have and gives me a screen large enough to provide a laptop-like internet experience.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918268</id>
	<title>My prediction</title>
	<author>ScottForbes</author>
	<datestamp>1264611300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It'll have a stylus and handwriting recognition, and they're calling it the "Newton."</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'll have a stylus and handwriting recognition , and they 're calling it the " Newton .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'll have a stylus and handwriting recognition, and they're calling it the "Newton.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919238</id>
	<title>Re:Best rumor source yet...</title>
	<author>Benzido</author>
	<datestamp>1264614960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple will never put an HDTV tuner in any product, because it commits the product to a bad user experience - either when reception is bad (for mobile products) or when the UX from the cable provider is bad (for plugged-in products).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple will never put an HDTV tuner in any product , because it commits the product to a bad user experience - either when reception is bad ( for mobile products ) or when the UX from the cable provider is bad ( for plugged-in products ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple will never put an HDTV tuner in any product, because it commits the product to a bad user experience - either when reception is bad (for mobile products) or when the UX from the cable provider is bad (for plugged-in products).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917926</id>
	<title>A "tablet"</title>
	<author>UseCase</author>
	<datestamp>1264610220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its an enima that once consumed attaches itself to your spinal cord allowing you to "see" a HUD over every part of your life, download books and browse the web as a small glowing apple pulsates on your back.  There is a rumored problem with overheating but otherwise....</p><p> <b>Ha Ha, All jokes aside I think its going to be a game changer!!</b> </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its an enima that once consumed attaches itself to your spinal cord allowing you to " see " a HUD over every part of your life , download books and browse the web as a small glowing apple pulsates on your back .
There is a rumored problem with overheating but otherwise.... Ha Ha , All jokes aside I think its going to be a game changer !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its an enima that once consumed attaches itself to your spinal cord allowing you to "see" a HUD over every part of your life, download books and browse the web as a small glowing apple pulsates on your back.
There is a rumored problem with overheating but otherwise.... Ha Ha, All jokes aside I think its going to be a game changer!
! </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918376</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1264611780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Microsoft just throws Windows on the device complete with all the crappy desktop metaphors and UI widgets that are completely irrelevant to the new form factor -- witness Windows Mobile and all the Windows tablets. Apple at least rethinks usability.</p></div><p>Apple at least <b>thinks about</b> usability. When's the last time that MS did that? I can tell you: Just prior to the launch of Win95, after even the final user testing showed that this "start button" concept is stupid, dumb, user-unfriendly and counterintuitive. They finally put the "Start" label on it (it was just the windos logo before that, yes a straight copy from the Apple logo on the Apple menu bar, except that that's always been on the <b>menu bar</b> where users expect menu things to be) and then added the "click here to start" animation when you first launch the OS, because even the label wasn't enough.</p><p>That's how MS thinks about "usability". Explains a lot about the trainwreck that every new windos edition adds to, doesn't it?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft just throws Windows on the device complete with all the crappy desktop metaphors and UI widgets that are completely irrelevant to the new form factor -- witness Windows Mobile and all the Windows tablets .
Apple at least rethinks usability.Apple at least thinks about usability .
When 's the last time that MS did that ?
I can tell you : Just prior to the launch of Win95 , after even the final user testing showed that this " start button " concept is stupid , dumb , user-unfriendly and counterintuitive .
They finally put the " Start " label on it ( it was just the windos logo before that , yes a straight copy from the Apple logo on the Apple menu bar , except that that 's always been on the menu bar where users expect menu things to be ) and then added the " click here to start " animation when you first launch the OS , because even the label was n't enough.That 's how MS thinks about " usability " .
Explains a lot about the trainwreck that every new windos edition adds to , does n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft just throws Windows on the device complete with all the crappy desktop metaphors and UI widgets that are completely irrelevant to the new form factor -- witness Windows Mobile and all the Windows tablets.
Apple at least rethinks usability.Apple at least thinks about usability.
When's the last time that MS did that?
I can tell you: Just prior to the launch of Win95, after even the final user testing showed that this "start button" concept is stupid, dumb, user-unfriendly and counterintuitive.
They finally put the "Start" label on it (it was just the windos logo before that, yes a straight copy from the Apple logo on the Apple menu bar, except that that's always been on the menu bar where users expect menu things to be) and then added the "click here to start" animation when you first launch the OS, because even the label wasn't enough.That's how MS thinks about "usability".
Explains a lot about the trainwreck that every new windos edition adds to, doesn't it?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917486</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917804</id>
	<title>Cringeley has a picture and beta tester comments</title>
	<author>udittmer</author>
	<datestamp>1264609740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.cringely.com/2010/01/apple-tablet-twit/" title="cringely.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cringely.com/2010/01/apple-tablet-twit/</a> [cringely.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.cringely.com/2010/01/apple-tablet-twit/ [ cringely.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.cringely.com/2010/01/apple-tablet-twit/ [cringely.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919678</id>
	<title>Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook</title>
	<author>FreakyGeeky</author>
	<datestamp>1264616700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You "doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet"?  That's crazy.  Of course they're going to release it.  I think they'll release it TODAY.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You " doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet " ?
That 's crazy .
Of course they 're going to release it .
I think they 'll release it TODAY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You "doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet"?
That's crazy.
Of course they're going to release it.
I think they'll release it TODAY.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917580</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919204</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Add to that the potential capability to employ "Back to my Mac" services for MobileMe users.  You have all that, plus the ability to remotely control a more powerful computer from wherever you are to get your heavier lifting done, then trade files with it over iDisk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Add to that the potential capability to employ " Back to my Mac " services for MobileMe users .
You have all that , plus the ability to remotely control a more powerful computer from wherever you are to get your heavier lifting done , then trade files with it over iDisk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Add to that the potential capability to employ "Back to my Mac" services for MobileMe users.
You have all that, plus the ability to remotely control a more powerful computer from wherever you are to get your heavier lifting done, then trade files with it over iDisk.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919294</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>cgenman</author>
	<datestamp>1264615260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For some of us, there is need for a computing device that you can use while walking from place to place.  The Laptop works well when you can sit and setup, but a tablet would be helpful for situations where you're talking to people, running errands, or generally being physically active.  There are already iPhone / iPod Touch and other smartphone / PDA custom solutions for these people, but a bigger screen and a task-specific interface would be nice.</p><p>Which is not to say that apple isn't going to position this as an ebook, since the above is a pretty small market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For some of us , there is need for a computing device that you can use while walking from place to place .
The Laptop works well when you can sit and setup , but a tablet would be helpful for situations where you 're talking to people , running errands , or generally being physically active .
There are already iPhone / iPod Touch and other smartphone / PDA custom solutions for these people , but a bigger screen and a task-specific interface would be nice.Which is not to say that apple is n't going to position this as an ebook , since the above is a pretty small market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For some of us, there is need for a computing device that you can use while walking from place to place.
The Laptop works well when you can sit and setup, but a tablet would be helpful for situations where you're talking to people, running errands, or generally being physically active.
There are already iPhone / iPod Touch and other smartphone / PDA custom solutions for these people, but a bigger screen and a task-specific interface would be nice.Which is not to say that apple isn't going to position this as an ebook, since the above is a pretty small market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919312</id>
	<title>Re:Tablet PCs</title>
	<author>Viewsonic</author>
	<datestamp>1264615320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't suppose you remember the Apple Newton tablet PC back from the 90s do you? Is this an example of Apple waiting around for others to run into issues and then come back later to release a product? I agree with everything you after that, but your first paragraph is typical anti-Apple fanboy ranting that is completely ignorant on the subject.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't suppose you remember the Apple Newton tablet PC back from the 90s do you ?
Is this an example of Apple waiting around for others to run into issues and then come back later to release a product ?
I agree with everything you after that , but your first paragraph is typical anti-Apple fanboy ranting that is completely ignorant on the subject .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't suppose you remember the Apple Newton tablet PC back from the 90s do you?
Is this an example of Apple waiting around for others to run into issues and then come back later to release a product?
I agree with everything you after that, but your first paragraph is typical anti-Apple fanboy ranting that is completely ignorant on the subject.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917896</id>
	<title>state of the apple address</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1264610100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>apple-&gt;music industry: conquered</p><p>apple-&gt;movie industry: hostile natives, sending in missionaries and evangelists of the "future"</p><p>apple-&gt;print industry: conquest being launched, lift off seconds away</p><p>genuine future:</p><p>internet-&gt;music: free*</p><p>internet-&gt;movies: free**</p><p>internet-&gt;print: free***</p><p>*creators will make money from live gigs, promotions, advertising, personalized content, etc. no distributors needed. distributors will evolve into hype machines and portals/ gateways delivering mass audiences to content. creators will continue to sign contracts to them for a cut of revenue, for delivering audiences. but its not necessary to sign a contract at all to become successful, its voluntary and usually for the pop bands</p><p>**the movie industry has always, and will always, despite every new tech threatening to kill it, fill cinema houses and make money thataways</p><p>***ad revenue is real and genuine for newspapers and will always exist. it will be a lot smaller, yes. and some superstar reporters will spin off from newspapers and become their own internet reporting gateways (see nikki finke: <a href="http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/" title="deadline.com">http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/</a> [deadline.com] ). in this way the internet will "atomize" some newspaper reporting where the departments/ individual reporters will report directly to readers, unrelated to any particular newspaper, much like musicians don't need distributors anymore. despite all the doom and gloom about newspapers, nothing on the internet can ever or will ever replace the service, for example, the poughkeepsie journal delivers for the residents of poughkeepsie, new york ( <a href="http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/" title="poughkeepsiejournal.com">http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/</a> [poughkeepsiejournal.com] )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>apple- &gt; music industry : conqueredapple- &gt; movie industry : hostile natives , sending in missionaries and evangelists of the " future " apple- &gt; print industry : conquest being launched , lift off seconds awaygenuine future : internet- &gt; music : free * internet- &gt; movies : free * * internet- &gt; print : free * * * * creators will make money from live gigs , promotions , advertising , personalized content , etc .
no distributors needed .
distributors will evolve into hype machines and portals/ gateways delivering mass audiences to content .
creators will continue to sign contracts to them for a cut of revenue , for delivering audiences .
but its not necessary to sign a contract at all to become successful , its voluntary and usually for the pop bands * * the movie industry has always , and will always , despite every new tech threatening to kill it , fill cinema houses and make money thataways * * * ad revenue is real and genuine for newspapers and will always exist .
it will be a lot smaller , yes .
and some superstar reporters will spin off from newspapers and become their own internet reporting gateways ( see nikki finke : http : //www.deadline.com/hollywood/ [ deadline.com ] ) .
in this way the internet will " atomize " some newspaper reporting where the departments/ individual reporters will report directly to readers , unrelated to any particular newspaper , much like musicians do n't need distributors anymore .
despite all the doom and gloom about newspapers , nothing on the internet can ever or will ever replace the service , for example , the poughkeepsie journal delivers for the residents of poughkeepsie , new york ( http : //www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/ [ poughkeepsiejournal.com ] )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>apple-&gt;music industry: conqueredapple-&gt;movie industry: hostile natives, sending in missionaries and evangelists of the "future"apple-&gt;print industry: conquest being launched, lift off seconds awaygenuine future:internet-&gt;music: free*internet-&gt;movies: free**internet-&gt;print: free****creators will make money from live gigs, promotions, advertising, personalized content, etc.
no distributors needed.
distributors will evolve into hype machines and portals/ gateways delivering mass audiences to content.
creators will continue to sign contracts to them for a cut of revenue, for delivering audiences.
but its not necessary to sign a contract at all to become successful, its voluntary and usually for the pop bands**the movie industry has always, and will always, despite every new tech threatening to kill it, fill cinema houses and make money thataways***ad revenue is real and genuine for newspapers and will always exist.
it will be a lot smaller, yes.
and some superstar reporters will spin off from newspapers and become their own internet reporting gateways (see nikki finke: http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/ [deadline.com] ).
in this way the internet will "atomize" some newspaper reporting where the departments/ individual reporters will report directly to readers, unrelated to any particular newspaper, much like musicians don't need distributors anymore.
despite all the doom and gloom about newspapers, nothing on the internet can ever or will ever replace the service, for example, the poughkeepsie journal delivers for the residents of poughkeepsie, new york ( http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/ [poughkeepsiejournal.com] )</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920816</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Herve5</author>
	<datestamp>1264620780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad you posted AC, I'd have friended you<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad you posted AC , I 'd have friended you ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad you posted AC, I'd have friended you ;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917586</id>
	<title>So...</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1264608960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Was the McGraw-Hill guy one of Apple's planned leaks, or is he going to start waking up, sweating bullets, to 3AM phone calls from Steve Jobs?<br> <br>

"Terry, you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living. Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity."<br> <br>

At this point the line goes dead. Terry will never know if this is because Steve is fucking with him, or if it is just AT&amp;T's shitty service disconnecting Steve's iPhone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was the McGraw-Hill guy one of Apple 's planned leaks , or is he going to start waking up , sweating bullets , to 3AM phone calls from Steve Jobs ?
" Terry , you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living .
Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity .
" At this point the line goes dead .
Terry will never know if this is because Steve is fucking with him , or if it is just AT&amp;T 's shitty service disconnecting Steve 's iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was the McGraw-Hill guy one of Apple's planned leaks, or is he going to start waking up, sweating bullets, to 3AM phone calls from Steve Jobs?
"Terry, you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living.
Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity.
" 

At this point the line goes dead.
Terry will never know if this is because Steve is fucking with him, or if it is just AT&amp;T's shitty service disconnecting Steve's iPhone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919844</id>
	<title>Re:TV and Kindle Competitor</title>
	<author>Steauengeglase</author>
	<datestamp>1264617360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I predict you'll be reading Cringely blog or Calacanis tweets again this afternoon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I predict you 'll be reading Cringely blog or Calacanis tweets again this afternoon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I predict you'll be reading Cringely blog or Calacanis tweets again this afternoon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917872</id>
	<title>Re:Patience</title>
	<author>Eponymous Coward</author>
	<datestamp>1264609980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why hurry? For some people, it's fun.</p><p>How about a bad analogy? Compare it to the superbowl. Why speculate on how the game will go or even bother watching it? It will be over soon and you can just find out the score.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why hurry ?
For some people , it 's fun.How about a bad analogy ?
Compare it to the superbowl .
Why speculate on how the game will go or even bother watching it ?
It will be over soon and you can just find out the score .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why hurry?
For some people, it's fun.How about a bad analogy?
Compare it to the superbowl.
Why speculate on how the game will go or even bother watching it?
It will be over soon and you can just find out the score.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918812</id>
	<title>Re:Apple tablet and SAAB</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1264613340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Being old and boring I shall continue to make do with my laptop that has an all-black carbon fibre reinforced case and my car that has a little silver propeller for a brand symbol.</i></p><p>I'm old, but few call me boring. Nevertheless, I drive a seven year old car, and just bought a laptop for $20; it needs a new battery and hard drive and it's good to go. But I can see the benefits of a tablet computer, although I'm not going to pay $500 for one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being old and boring I shall continue to make do with my laptop that has an all-black carbon fibre reinforced case and my car that has a little silver propeller for a brand symbol.I 'm old , but few call me boring .
Nevertheless , I drive a seven year old car , and just bought a laptop for $ 20 ; it needs a new battery and hard drive and it 's good to go .
But I can see the benefits of a tablet computer , although I 'm not going to pay $ 500 for one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being old and boring I shall continue to make do with my laptop that has an all-black carbon fibre reinforced case and my car that has a little silver propeller for a brand symbol.I'm old, but few call me boring.
Nevertheless, I drive a seven year old car, and just bought a laptop for $20; it needs a new battery and hard drive and it's good to go.
But I can see the benefits of a tablet computer, although I'm not going to pay $500 for one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920172</id>
	<title>I'm curious if it is x86.</title>
	<author>drfreak</author>
	<datestamp>1264618740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If so, it could be the coolest Windows tablet yet given the proper Boot Camp drivers. Much as I enjoy OSX, when it comes to work, it is nice to run Windows 7 on my MacBook. Given that tablets will be used more and more by doctors, I know they would love to be using their EMR with pretty Apple hardware.</p><p>Given all the new tablet features introduced in Windows 7, it would be a bit ironic for Apple to have the first hardware where the masses might truly want to use it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If so , it could be the coolest Windows tablet yet given the proper Boot Camp drivers .
Much as I enjoy OSX , when it comes to work , it is nice to run Windows 7 on my MacBook .
Given that tablets will be used more and more by doctors , I know they would love to be using their EMR with pretty Apple hardware.Given all the new tablet features introduced in Windows 7 , it would be a bit ironic for Apple to have the first hardware where the masses might truly want to use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If so, it could be the coolest Windows tablet yet given the proper Boot Camp drivers.
Much as I enjoy OSX, when it comes to work, it is nice to run Windows 7 on my MacBook.
Given that tablets will be used more and more by doctors, I know they would love to be using their EMR with pretty Apple hardware.Given all the new tablet features introduced in Windows 7, it would be a bit ironic for Apple to have the first hardware where the masses might truly want to use it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918244</id>
	<title>Can't wait</title>
	<author>BlackHawk-666</author>
	<datestamp>1264611180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't wait to buy one so I can sit on my couch, with my favorite TV show playing, and this puppy on my lap allowing me to read all my COLOUR FUCKING PICTURE BOOKS! Honestly, if it's a Kindle replacement, great - but I don't read pop-up books with pictures of cute dogs anymore, black and while will be fine.</p><p>What is it good for, bar reading on the crapper - which I'm a fan of?</p><p>If I want to browse the web I have a comfy chair and desk with a decent PC for that. Same for music, video editing, email, anything that would involve me having to press more than 3-4 buttons repeatedly...hell, I don't even txt I find that too annoying. I'd rather call the person.</p><p>I could use it at the kitchen table as a uber geek way to give my family the 'book off' I guess. I could whip it out in cafes and make the other fools who only have iphone jealous. Though the iPhone does tuck away in the pocket a little better when getting there.</p><p>I could watch some tv on it, but my 46" LCD streaming H264 from my PC does that far better.</p><p>I could head into the garden and browse the web on it - but maybe I should be getting my face out of the days dramas and simply sit and enjoy the garden  instead.</p><p>All it's really going to be good for is allowing data, drama, work and other tiresome issues to penetrate even further into our lives. There needs to be some places you can go and get away from that - for me, I walk away from my PC and it's all behind me. For others, they constantly suckle at the teet of Twitter like alcoholics on a bottle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't wait to buy one so I can sit on my couch , with my favorite TV show playing , and this puppy on my lap allowing me to read all my COLOUR FUCKING PICTURE BOOKS !
Honestly , if it 's a Kindle replacement , great - but I do n't read pop-up books with pictures of cute dogs anymore , black and while will be fine.What is it good for , bar reading on the crapper - which I 'm a fan of ? If I want to browse the web I have a comfy chair and desk with a decent PC for that .
Same for music , video editing , email , anything that would involve me having to press more than 3-4 buttons repeatedly...hell , I do n't even txt I find that too annoying .
I 'd rather call the person.I could use it at the kitchen table as a uber geek way to give my family the 'book off ' I guess .
I could whip it out in cafes and make the other fools who only have iphone jealous .
Though the iPhone does tuck away in the pocket a little better when getting there.I could watch some tv on it , but my 46 " LCD streaming H264 from my PC does that far better.I could head into the garden and browse the web on it - but maybe I should be getting my face out of the days dramas and simply sit and enjoy the garden instead.All it 's really going to be good for is allowing data , drama , work and other tiresome issues to penetrate even further into our lives .
There needs to be some places you can go and get away from that - for me , I walk away from my PC and it 's all behind me .
For others , they constantly suckle at the teet of Twitter like alcoholics on a bottle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't wait to buy one so I can sit on my couch, with my favorite TV show playing, and this puppy on my lap allowing me to read all my COLOUR FUCKING PICTURE BOOKS!
Honestly, if it's a Kindle replacement, great - but I don't read pop-up books with pictures of cute dogs anymore, black and while will be fine.What is it good for, bar reading on the crapper - which I'm a fan of?If I want to browse the web I have a comfy chair and desk with a decent PC for that.
Same for music, video editing, email, anything that would involve me having to press more than 3-4 buttons repeatedly...hell, I don't even txt I find that too annoying.
I'd rather call the person.I could use it at the kitchen table as a uber geek way to give my family the 'book off' I guess.
I could whip it out in cafes and make the other fools who only have iphone jealous.
Though the iPhone does tuck away in the pocket a little better when getting there.I could watch some tv on it, but my 46" LCD streaming H264 from my PC does that far better.I could head into the garden and browse the web on it - but maybe I should be getting my face out of the days dramas and simply sit and enjoy the garden  instead.All it's really going to be good for is allowing data, drama, work and other tiresome issues to penetrate even further into our lives.
There needs to be some places you can go and get away from that - for me, I walk away from my PC and it's all behind me.
For others, they constantly suckle at the teet of Twitter like alcoholics on a bottle.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918570</id>
	<title>Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch</title>
	<author>Sir\_Lewk</author>
	<datestamp>1264612500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wonderful.  The portability and convience of a macbook, combined with the openness of an iphone.</p><p>I'll take three.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wonderful .
The portability and convience of a macbook , combined with the openness of an iphone.I 'll take three .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wonderful.
The portability and convience of a macbook, combined with the openness of an iphone.I'll take three.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918122</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>WilliamBaughman</author>
	<datestamp>1264610820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Terry, you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living. Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity."</p></div><p>I think that's the funniest thing I've read in the last year, bravo!  In all seriousness, the CEO or Orange (St&#233;phane Richard) already hinted at video chat, so I doubt that Terry McGraw is first on "the list."  Further, I don't think that either has spilled the beans in the way that ATI did in 2000 which made Apple kill all mention of ATI being in the G4 Cube...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Terry , you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living .
Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity .
" I think that 's the funniest thing I 've read in the last year , bravo !
In all seriousness , the CEO or Orange ( St   phane Richard ) already hinted at video chat , so I doubt that Terry McGraw is first on " the list .
" Further , I do n't think that either has spilled the beans in the way that ATI did in 2000 which made Apple kill all mention of ATI being in the G4 Cube.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Terry, you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living.
Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity.
"I think that's the funniest thing I've read in the last year, bravo!
In all seriousness, the CEO or Orange (Stéphane Richard) already hinted at video chat, so I doubt that Terry McGraw is first on "the list.
"  Further, I don't think that either has spilled the beans in the way that ATI did in 2000 which made Apple kill all mention of ATI being in the G4 Cube...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919020</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Shining Celebi</author>
	<datestamp>1264614240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This time it's going to be closed up, have a centralized app store that only sells approved products, and yet people are considering it newsworthy and even predict some success.</p></div></blockquote><p>Predict <i>some</i> success? The Apple tablet has been a huge story even in the mainstream press for months and it's been nothing but fawning, salivating coverage about how this is the Next Big Thing. With all that advertising, I'm sure it's safe to say those predictions are right -- it's going to be a huge success, regardless of the factors you mention and regardless of whether it's actually good. I can't imagine any other company getting such adulatory coverage everywhere from the New York Times to Reuters to PC World for months about a product <i>nobody even actually knows anything about</i>.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This time it 's going to be closed up , have a centralized app store that only sells approved products , and yet people are considering it newsworthy and even predict some success.Predict some success ?
The Apple tablet has been a huge story even in the mainstream press for months and it 's been nothing but fawning , salivating coverage about how this is the Next Big Thing .
With all that advertising , I 'm sure it 's safe to say those predictions are right -- it 's going to be a huge success , regardless of the factors you mention and regardless of whether it 's actually good .
I ca n't imagine any other company getting such adulatory coverage everywhere from the New York Times to Reuters to PC World for months about a product nobody even actually knows anything about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This time it's going to be closed up, have a centralized app store that only sells approved products, and yet people are considering it newsworthy and even predict some success.Predict some success?
The Apple tablet has been a huge story even in the mainstream press for months and it's been nothing but fawning, salivating coverage about how this is the Next Big Thing.
With all that advertising, I'm sure it's safe to say those predictions are right -- it's going to be a huge success, regardless of the factors you mention and regardless of whether it's actually good.
I can't imagine any other company getting such adulatory coverage everywhere from the New York Times to Reuters to PC World for months about a product nobody even actually knows anything about.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918616</id>
	<title>Confirmed!</title>
	<author>LeonPierre</author>
	<datestamp>1264612620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have it on the authority of no less than 5 people closely related to the project that the new device will do no less than end world hunger, rebuild 3rd world nations, fix the energy crisis and the economy, and help those poor drowning polar bears whose homes have melted away....</p><p>But this next piece of information you will not hear from any reputable website, as they are too afraid to publish it:</p><p>It will do no less than make unicorns shit rainbows</p><p>You can quote me on that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have it on the authority of no less than 5 people closely related to the project that the new device will do no less than end world hunger , rebuild 3rd world nations , fix the energy crisis and the economy , and help those poor drowning polar bears whose homes have melted away....But this next piece of information you will not hear from any reputable website , as they are too afraid to publish it : It will do no less than make unicorns shit rainbowsYou can quote me on that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have it on the authority of no less than 5 people closely related to the project that the new device will do no less than end world hunger, rebuild 3rd world nations, fix the energy crisis and the economy, and help those poor drowning polar bears whose homes have melted away....But this next piece of information you will not hear from any reputable website, as they are too afraid to publish it:It will do no less than make unicorns shit rainbowsYou can quote me on that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918434</id>
	<title>ehhh....</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1264612020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to see a tablet done right.  Microsoft really hasn't delivered that yet.  Maybe apple can.  I've been impressed with their iPhone/iPod Touch.</p><p>But I guess I just don't see what all the excitement is about.  It's a new piece of hardware.  Sure, I like gadgets and all...  But folks have been frenetically hunting down any hint of rumor about this thing for a year or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to see a tablet done right .
Microsoft really has n't delivered that yet .
Maybe apple can .
I 've been impressed with their iPhone/iPod Touch.But I guess I just do n't see what all the excitement is about .
It 's a new piece of hardware .
Sure , I like gadgets and all... But folks have been frenetically hunting down any hint of rumor about this thing for a year or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to see a tablet done right.
Microsoft really hasn't delivered that yet.
Maybe apple can.
I've been impressed with their iPhone/iPod Touch.But I guess I just don't see what all the excitement is about.
It's a new piece of hardware.
Sure, I like gadgets and all...  But folks have been frenetically hunting down any hint of rumor about this thing for a year or so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30929746</id>
	<title>omg ipad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264615080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OMG honey I blew up the iphone!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OMG honey I blew up the iphone !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OMG honey I blew up the iphone!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919600</id>
	<title>It isn't a tablet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264616400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apple's vendors and partners are producing pieces they think will become part of the next iThingy tablet. But it isn't so.<br><br>Apple is secretly assembling these bits and pieces into A NEW GAME CONSOLE with genuine color graphics. The new device, iCon, will almost be compatible with the popular Nintendo wii and the exotic Sony PS3.<br><br>Games, such as Guess The Number, once only available on the iPhone, will now be capable of presentation on massive LCD television displays.<br><br>The paper and cardboard packaging will be phenomenal and the devices will be made by Apple in California.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple 's vendors and partners are producing pieces they think will become part of the next iThingy tablet .
But it is n't so.Apple is secretly assembling these bits and pieces into A NEW GAME CONSOLE with genuine color graphics .
The new device , iCon , will almost be compatible with the popular Nintendo wii and the exotic Sony PS3.Games , such as Guess The Number , once only available on the iPhone , will now be capable of presentation on massive LCD television displays.The paper and cardboard packaging will be phenomenal and the devices will be made by Apple in California .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple's vendors and partners are producing pieces they think will become part of the next iThingy tablet.
But it isn't so.Apple is secretly assembling these bits and pieces into A NEW GAME CONSOLE with genuine color graphics.
The new device, iCon, will almost be compatible with the popular Nintendo wii and the exotic Sony PS3.Games, such as Guess The Number, once only available on the iPhone, will now be capable of presentation on massive LCD television displays.The paper and cardboard packaging will be phenomenal and the devices will be made by Apple in California.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919078</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Gilmoure</author>
	<datestamp>1264614480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yup, I'd be happy with one with only wifi connectivity, for use around the house, if it can stream movies from my iTunes home server I have setup.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup , I 'd be happy with one with only wifi connectivity , for use around the house , if it can stream movies from my iTunes home server I have setup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup, I'd be happy with one with only wifi connectivity, for use around the house, if it can stream movies from my iTunes home server I have setup.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918106</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919578</id>
	<title>EReader and textbooks</title>
	<author>niteHawk337</author>
	<datestamp>1264616280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Something that was pointed out to me by my wife who's in Educational publishing... the one technical thing that's kept textbooks off of ereaders like the kindle and nook is the lack of color - textbooks need to have a full depth of color for the illustrations. The admission by McGraw-Hill seems to point in this direction..
Now the publishers want to keep dead trees in circulation for monetary reasons aside, I wonder how this'll catch on - I have an ereader, and the eink is fantastic for reading.. a OLED or LCD panel is just going to make it VERY hard to spend hours buried in the book for studying, I would think.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Something that was pointed out to me by my wife who 's in Educational publishing... the one technical thing that 's kept textbooks off of ereaders like the kindle and nook is the lack of color - textbooks need to have a full depth of color for the illustrations .
The admission by McGraw-Hill seems to point in this direction. . Now the publishers want to keep dead trees in circulation for monetary reasons aside , I wonder how this 'll catch on - I have an ereader , and the eink is fantastic for reading.. a OLED or LCD panel is just going to make it VERY hard to spend hours buried in the book for studying , I would think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something that was pointed out to me by my wife who's in Educational publishing... the one technical thing that's kept textbooks off of ereaders like the kindle and nook is the lack of color - textbooks need to have a full depth of color for the illustrations.
The admission by McGraw-Hill seems to point in this direction..
Now the publishers want to keep dead trees in circulation for monetary reasons aside, I wonder how this'll catch on - I have an ereader, and the eink is fantastic for reading.. a OLED or LCD panel is just going to make it VERY hard to spend hours buried in the book for studying, I would think.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917900</id>
	<title>If it doesn't allow</title>
	<author>thrillseeker</author>
	<datestamp>1264610100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>me to take notes on it with some sort of stylus, then it's worthless to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>me to take notes on it with some sort of stylus , then it 's worthless to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>me to take notes on it with some sort of stylus, then it's worthless to me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917938</id>
	<title>Here is hoping a contract is not required</title>
	<author>Shivetya</author>
	<datestamp>1264610220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>to properly use all the features.</p><p>It is rumored you can buy it without a contract attached, I am just concerned one is still needed to access all the content available or for specific features.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>to properly use all the features.It is rumored you can buy it without a contract attached , I am just concerned one is still needed to access all the content available or for specific features .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to properly use all the features.It is rumored you can buy it without a contract attached, I am just concerned one is still needed to access all the content available or for specific features.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917454</id>
	<title>i'm waiting for:</title>
	<author>madddddddddd</author>
	<datestamp>1264608360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iphone nano</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iphone nano</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iphone nano</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917992</id>
	<title>Deja Vu</title>
	<author>Logical Zebra</author>
	<datestamp>1264610400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Didn't Apple already try this?  Wasn't it called the "Newton"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't Apple already try this ?
Was n't it called the " Newton " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't Apple already try this?
Wasn't it called the "Newton"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920440</id>
	<title>Re:i'm waiting for:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264619700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow... it's mostly dead space.  WTF is with that huge black frame?!</p><p>Has Apple forgotten the meaning of the golden ratio?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow... it 's mostly dead space .
WTF is with that huge black frame ?
! Has Apple forgotten the meaning of the golden ratio ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow... it's mostly dead space.
WTF is with that huge black frame?
!Has Apple forgotten the meaning of the golden ratio?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917454</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918564</id>
	<title>So it may not be for you...</title>
	<author>itsdapead</author>
	<datestamp>1264612440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My prediction: if people perceive this as a laptop/PC replacement it will fail. Pen/touch-based PCs are a niche market for people who need to use a full-blown PC while standing up. Otherwise, if you're doing substantial writing, you need a keyboard.

</p><p>If, however, it is sucessfully pitched as an "appliance" for instant-on armchair web browsing, media playing, reading and casual gaming then, although it might not be what <i>you</i> want, I think it will find a market, because it does something that existing tablets* don't, and it will benefit from the existing iPhone/App Store ecology. If the price is right, I'd like something like that as a supplement to my "real" computer.

</p><p>(*By "existing tablets" I mean "established" tablet/pen PCs, not the latest crop of Android etc. tablets which may be direct competitors with the iProduct).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My prediction : if people perceive this as a laptop/PC replacement it will fail .
Pen/touch-based PCs are a niche market for people who need to use a full-blown PC while standing up .
Otherwise , if you 're doing substantial writing , you need a keyboard .
If , however , it is sucessfully pitched as an " appliance " for instant-on armchair web browsing , media playing , reading and casual gaming then , although it might not be what you want , I think it will find a market , because it does something that existing tablets * do n't , and it will benefit from the existing iPhone/App Store ecology .
If the price is right , I 'd like something like that as a supplement to my " real " computer .
( * By " existing tablets " I mean " established " tablet/pen PCs , not the latest crop of Android etc .
tablets which may be direct competitors with the iProduct ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My prediction: if people perceive this as a laptop/PC replacement it will fail.
Pen/touch-based PCs are a niche market for people who need to use a full-blown PC while standing up.
Otherwise, if you're doing substantial writing, you need a keyboard.
If, however, it is sucessfully pitched as an "appliance" for instant-on armchair web browsing, media playing, reading and casual gaming then, although it might not be what you want, I think it will find a market, because it does something that existing tablets* don't, and it will benefit from the existing iPhone/App Store ecology.
If the price is right, I'd like something like that as a supplement to my "real" computer.
(*By "existing tablets" I mean "established" tablet/pen PCs, not the latest crop of Android etc.
tablets which may be direct competitors with the iProduct).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917580</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919730</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Spykk</author>
	<datestamp>1264616880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It sounds like what you want is a netbook. Which of those tasks that you listed will be improved by a big touchscreen? A netbook will likely cost you a lot less and comes with a keyboard.<br>
<br>
The only niche I see for tablets is applications that need to be portable and need to have a large touchscreen. Once something is too big to put in your pocket you're going to carry it in a bag that could just as easily carry something a little bigger/useful.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds like what you want is a netbook .
Which of those tasks that you listed will be improved by a big touchscreen ?
A netbook will likely cost you a lot less and comes with a keyboard .
The only niche I see for tablets is applications that need to be portable and need to have a large touchscreen .
Once something is too big to put in your pocket you 're going to carry it in a bag that could just as easily carry something a little bigger/useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds like what you want is a netbook.
Which of those tasks that you listed will be improved by a big touchscreen?
A netbook will likely cost you a lot less and comes with a keyboard.
The only niche I see for tablets is applications that need to be portable and need to have a large touchscreen.
Once something is too big to put in your pocket you're going to carry it in a bag that could just as easily carry something a little bigger/useful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918106</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917718</id>
	<title>Best rumor source yet...</title>
	<author>rayharris</author>
	<datestamp>1264609380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jason Calacanis got his tablet 10 days ago</p><p><a href="http://twitter.com/jason" title="twitter.com" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/jason</a> [twitter.com]</p><p>Highlights:</p><p>- $599, $699, $799 depending on size and memory<br>- iPhone OS with multitasking<br>- OLED screen (no size given)<br>- Verizon and ATT for 3G, WiFi<br>- Front and back cameras for video conferencing<br>- Thumbpad on each side for mouse gestures<br>- Fingerprint scanner for login with up to five profiles<br>- TV/Monitor output and wireless keyboard<br>- HDTV Tuner with PVR<br>- Solar panel for recharging (more a gimmick)<br>- Battery life is "great" in ebook mode, 2-3 hours otherwise<br>- No word on name</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jason Calacanis got his tablet 10 days agohttp : //twitter.com/jason [ twitter.com ] Highlights : - $ 599 , $ 699 , $ 799 depending on size and memory- iPhone OS with multitasking- OLED screen ( no size given ) - Verizon and ATT for 3G , WiFi- Front and back cameras for video conferencing- Thumbpad on each side for mouse gestures- Fingerprint scanner for login with up to five profiles- TV/Monitor output and wireless keyboard- HDTV Tuner with PVR- Solar panel for recharging ( more a gimmick ) - Battery life is " great " in ebook mode , 2-3 hours otherwise- No word on name</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jason Calacanis got his tablet 10 days agohttp://twitter.com/jason [twitter.com]Highlights:- $599, $699, $799 depending on size and memory- iPhone OS with multitasking- OLED screen (no size given)- Verizon and ATT for 3G, WiFi- Front and back cameras for video conferencing- Thumbpad on each side for mouse gestures- Fingerprint scanner for login with up to five profiles- TV/Monitor output and wireless keyboard- HDTV Tuner with PVR- Solar panel for recharging (more a gimmick)- Battery life is "great" in ebook mode, 2-3 hours otherwise- No word on name</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918340</id>
	<title>Seriously</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264611660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am about to come so hard!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am about to come so hard !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am about to come so hard!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918316</id>
	<title>Actually....</title>
	<author>Kozar\_The\_Malignant</author>
	<datestamp>1264611540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>&gt;Since the Apple event is this afternoon,</i> </p><p>Actually, it's this morning in San Francisco.  The Apple Universe runs on PST.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Since the Apple event is this afternoon , Actually , it 's this morning in San Francisco .
The Apple Universe runs on PST .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext> &gt;Since the Apple event is this afternoon, Actually, it's this morning in San Francisco.
The Apple Universe runs on PST.
:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917930</id>
	<title>But does it have wine from the USB port?</title>
	<author>benwiggy</author>
	<datestamp>1264610220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.mensup.fr/usbwine/" title="mensup.fr">http://www.mensup.fr/usbwine/</a> [mensup.fr]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.mensup.fr/usbwine/ [ mensup.fr ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.mensup.fr/usbwine/ [mensup.fr]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30924412</id>
	<title>Re:Best rumor source yet...</title>
	<author>fusiongyro</author>
	<datestamp>1264586220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What a stupid asshat. I can't believe anyone ever believes anything he says.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What a stupid asshat .
I ca n't believe anyone ever believes anything he says .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a stupid asshat.
I can't believe anyone ever believes anything he says.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919122</id>
	<title>Re:TV and Kindle Competitor</title>
	<author>Gates82</author>
	<datestamp>1264614600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Really, you think the company that wont even put a measly FM radio tuner on their mobile audio devices is going to release a product that lets you view over the air TV broadcasts.  Highly doubtful.
<p>--<br>
So who is hotter? Ali or Ali's Sister?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , you think the company that wont even put a measly FM radio tuner on their mobile audio devices is going to release a product that lets you view over the air TV broadcasts .
Highly doubtful .
-- So who is hotter ?
Ali or Ali 's Sister ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, you think the company that wont even put a measly FM radio tuner on their mobile audio devices is going to release a product that lets you view over the air TV broadcasts.
Highly doubtful.
--
So who is hotter?
Ali or Ali's Sister?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30920188</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's strategy</title>
	<author>Alamais</author>
	<datestamp>1264618860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The parts of W7 that are 'usable' are basically exact copies of Mac OS X things.  From 'pin to Dock^H^H^H^HTaskbar', to vector icons (though I don't know, I didn't even try Vista, so maybe the unabashed copying started there).</p><p>Unfortunately for them, it's at an OS 10.0 level.  Networking is miserable, especially backwards-compatible networking (I have yet to get W7 to see XP/Mac SMB machines on my workgroup), every setting now takes two or three times as many clicks to change, you can enlarge icons and text, but only so far (no 10-foot interface).</p><p>I installed a school copy on a school computer to try it out.  I was hoping to go to 7 at home so I could get 64-bit (more RAM), and DX10/11.  I'm one more crash/random IP address loss/file sharing frustration/primal scream away from giving up and going back to XP.</p><p>Was Vista actually <b>worse</b> than this?  How is that possible?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The parts of W7 that are 'usable ' are basically exact copies of Mac OS X things .
From 'pin to Dock ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ HTaskbar ' , to vector icons ( though I do n't know , I did n't even try Vista , so maybe the unabashed copying started there ) .Unfortunately for them , it 's at an OS 10.0 level .
Networking is miserable , especially backwards-compatible networking ( I have yet to get W7 to see XP/Mac SMB machines on my workgroup ) , every setting now takes two or three times as many clicks to change , you can enlarge icons and text , but only so far ( no 10-foot interface ) .I installed a school copy on a school computer to try it out .
I was hoping to go to 7 at home so I could get 64-bit ( more RAM ) , and DX10/11 .
I 'm one more crash/random IP address loss/file sharing frustration/primal scream away from giving up and going back to XP.Was Vista actually worse than this ?
How is that possible ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The parts of W7 that are 'usable' are basically exact copies of Mac OS X things.
From 'pin to Dock^H^H^H^HTaskbar', to vector icons (though I don't know, I didn't even try Vista, so maybe the unabashed copying started there).Unfortunately for them, it's at an OS 10.0 level.
Networking is miserable, especially backwards-compatible networking (I have yet to get W7 to see XP/Mac SMB machines on my workgroup), every setting now takes two or three times as many clicks to change, you can enlarge icons and text, but only so far (no 10-foot interface).I installed a school copy on a school computer to try it out.
I was hoping to go to 7 at home so I could get 64-bit (more RAM), and DX10/11.
I'm one more crash/random IP address loss/file sharing frustration/primal scream away from giving up and going back to XP.Was Vista actually worse than this?
How is that possible?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918392</id>
	<title>Why Obama will never be "Reagan"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264611840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First, he'd have to get rid of his seething hatred for the average Joe just trying to provide for his family.  You know, what Obama used to be.  Then he'd have to get rid of the complex he's obviously developed from his rise from Average Joe to Emperor of the World.  He hates what he was, and he hates what he's become.  Before he deals with those two major personal issues, it's useless for him to keep trying to swing from Reagan's dick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First , he 'd have to get rid of his seething hatred for the average Joe just trying to provide for his family .
You know , what Obama used to be .
Then he 'd have to get rid of the complex he 's obviously developed from his rise from Average Joe to Emperor of the World .
He hates what he was , and he hates what he 's become .
Before he deals with those two major personal issues , it 's useless for him to keep trying to swing from Reagan 's dick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, he'd have to get rid of his seething hatred for the average Joe just trying to provide for his family.
You know, what Obama used to be.
Then he'd have to get rid of the complex he's obviously developed from his rise from Average Joe to Emperor of the World.
He hates what he was, and he hates what he's become.
Before he deals with those two major personal issues, it's useless for him to keep trying to swing from Reagan's dick.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917602</id>
	<title>Shouldn't that be...</title>
	<author>Zwets</author>
	<datestamp>1264609020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>..."exhausted iRolling"?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>... " exhausted iRolling " ?
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..."exhausted iRolling"?
;-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919416</id>
	<title>Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook</title>
	<author>King\_TJ</author>
	<datestamp>1264615680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really don't think they were ever intending this to replace one of their portables.  (That would kind of shoot themselves in the proverbial feet, since ideally, they'd like people to buy BOTH a notebook of theirs and whatever the tablet turns out to be.)</p><p>We'll all know soon enough<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but my thoughts throughout this whole thing were that Apple's main focus is on finding a good way to sell digital versions of print media to people, via iTunes, just like they already do with music and now with video/movies.  This device will primarily be a "means to that end", just like the iPod was for music.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really do n't think they were ever intending this to replace one of their portables .
( That would kind of shoot themselves in the proverbial feet , since ideally , they 'd like people to buy BOTH a notebook of theirs and whatever the tablet turns out to be .
) We 'll all know soon enough ... but my thoughts throughout this whole thing were that Apple 's main focus is on finding a good way to sell digital versions of print media to people , via iTunes , just like they already do with music and now with video/movies .
This device will primarily be a " means to that end " , just like the iPod was for music .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really don't think they were ever intending this to replace one of their portables.
(That would kind of shoot themselves in the proverbial feet, since ideally, they'd like people to buy BOTH a notebook of theirs and whatever the tablet turns out to be.
)We'll all know soon enough ... but my thoughts throughout this whole thing were that Apple's main focus is on finding a good way to sell digital versions of print media to people, via iTunes, just like they already do with music and now with video/movies.
This device will primarily be a "means to that end", just like the iPod was for music.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1264609800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>iPhone OS can mean a variety of things.  It definitely means an ARM CPU, possibly from Apple's in-house team (I've not head much from PA Semi since Apple bought them).  It doesn't necessarily mean UIKit-only.  There's no technical reason why you can't run AppKit apps on an iPhone, Apple just chose not to include the framework.  This was done for a couple of reasons, but the most important one was to force developers to redesign their UI for the small screen, not just recompile Mac apps and call them iPhone apps.  With a tablet, this reason goes away, because the screen is larger, and it could easily handle full ports of Mac apps and iPhone apps.  If they do include AppKit, then it becomes a third CPU to support for Mac developers, but if your code already runs on PowerPC and x86, then it's going to work on ARM with a straight recompile unless you use any inline assembly.  Just tick the 'Tablet' box in the targets inspector in XCode and recompile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>iPhone OS can mean a variety of things .
It definitely means an ARM CPU , possibly from Apple 's in-house team ( I 've not head much from PA Semi since Apple bought them ) .
It does n't necessarily mean UIKit-only .
There 's no technical reason why you ca n't run AppKit apps on an iPhone , Apple just chose not to include the framework .
This was done for a couple of reasons , but the most important one was to force developers to redesign their UI for the small screen , not just recompile Mac apps and call them iPhone apps .
With a tablet , this reason goes away , because the screen is larger , and it could easily handle full ports of Mac apps and iPhone apps .
If they do include AppKit , then it becomes a third CPU to support for Mac developers , but if your code already runs on PowerPC and x86 , then it 's going to work on ARM with a straight recompile unless you use any inline assembly .
Just tick the 'Tablet ' box in the targets inspector in XCode and recompile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPhone OS can mean a variety of things.
It definitely means an ARM CPU, possibly from Apple's in-house team (I've not head much from PA Semi since Apple bought them).
It doesn't necessarily mean UIKit-only.
There's no technical reason why you can't run AppKit apps on an iPhone, Apple just chose not to include the framework.
This was done for a couple of reasons, but the most important one was to force developers to redesign their UI for the small screen, not just recompile Mac apps and call them iPhone apps.
With a tablet, this reason goes away, because the screen is larger, and it could easily handle full ports of Mac apps and iPhone apps.
If they do include AppKit, then it becomes a third CPU to support for Mac developers, but if your code already runs on PowerPC and x86, then it's going to work on ARM with a straight recompile unless you use any inline assembly.
Just tick the 'Tablet' box in the targets inspector in XCode and recompile.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30917606</id>
	<title>you know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264609020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I REALLY wish someone would just completely release true specs of the tablet, if it exists, before Apple does.  Not because I would get any enjoyment out of knowing about the device, I just get a lot of satisfaction at watching Steve Jobs throw a tantrum because his ridiculous product release drama got sabotaged.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I REALLY wish someone would just completely release true specs of the tablet , if it exists , before Apple does .
Not because I would get any enjoyment out of knowing about the device , I just get a lot of satisfaction at watching Steve Jobs throw a tantrum because his ridiculous product release drama got sabotaged .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I REALLY wish someone would just completely release true specs of the tablet, if it exists, before Apple does.
Not because I would get any enjoyment out of knowing about the device, I just get a lot of satisfaction at watching Steve Jobs throw a tantrum because his ridiculous product release drama got sabotaged.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30919192</id>
	<title>Re:Tablet PCs</title>
	<author>crumbz</author>
	<datestamp>1264614780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"One thing that we can be sure of is that Apple is going to tout this tablet like they've invented this type device. The people at Apple are smart in that they aren't early adopters of new technologies. Others do it first and run into the issues anyone will face with technology in it's infancy. The segments of the market generally starts petering out as those guys move onto devices and that's when Apple jumps in."</p><p>Umm, Newton?</p><p>"The fact is, if you've got an iPhone, which most people interested in this tablet likely do, there's little need for this device. If this thing is running a version of the iPhone's OS then there's even less use for it. In my opinion a tablet should be a more portable alternative to a laptop, not a big brother to a mobile phone. Otherwise I expect these things to collect a lot of dust. I don't use my tablet PC for much of anything nowadays; I've installed automotive diagnostics software on it and even that doesn't get much use."</p><p>Have you tried reading a book on the iPhone's screen?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" One thing that we can be sure of is that Apple is going to tout this tablet like they 've invented this type device .
The people at Apple are smart in that they are n't early adopters of new technologies .
Others do it first and run into the issues anyone will face with technology in it 's infancy .
The segments of the market generally starts petering out as those guys move onto devices and that 's when Apple jumps in .
" Umm , Newton ?
" The fact is , if you 've got an iPhone , which most people interested in this tablet likely do , there 's little need for this device .
If this thing is running a version of the iPhone 's OS then there 's even less use for it .
In my opinion a tablet should be a more portable alternative to a laptop , not a big brother to a mobile phone .
Otherwise I expect these things to collect a lot of dust .
I do n't use my tablet PC for much of anything nowadays ; I 've installed automotive diagnostics software on it and even that does n't get much use .
" Have you tried reading a book on the iPhone 's screen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"One thing that we can be sure of is that Apple is going to tout this tablet like they've invented this type device.
The people at Apple are smart in that they aren't early adopters of new technologies.
Others do it first and run into the issues anyone will face with technology in it's infancy.
The segments of the market generally starts petering out as those guys move onto devices and that's when Apple jumps in.
"Umm, Newton?
"The fact is, if you've got an iPhone, which most people interested in this tablet likely do, there's little need for this device.
If this thing is running a version of the iPhone's OS then there's even less use for it.
In my opinion a tablet should be a more portable alternative to a laptop, not a big brother to a mobile phone.
Otherwise I expect these things to collect a lot of dust.
I don't use my tablet PC for much of anything nowadays; I've installed automotive diagnostics software on it and even that doesn't get much use.
"Have you tried reading a book on the iPhone's screen?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918386</id>
	<title>Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook</title>
	<author>SquirrelCrack</author>
	<datestamp>1264611840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man up and learn Objective C</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man up and learn Objective C</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man up and learn Objective C</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_154203.30918698</id>
	<title>Re:Best rumor source yet...</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1264612920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forgot:<br>- Makes the sun shine out of your butt!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot : - Makes the sun shine out of your butt !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot:- Makes the sun shine out of your butt!</sentencetext>
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