<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_26_2315256</id>
	<title>GM Is Selling Saab To Spyker Cars</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1264515360000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>johncadengo writes <i>"General Motors said today that it has struck a preliminary <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/business/global/27saab.html">deal to sell Saab to Spyker Cars</a>, a tiny Dutch maker of high-end sports cars, saving the Swedish automaker from what seemed like <a href="//news.slashdot.org/story/09/12/19/2245240/A-Requiem-For-Saab">certain extinction</a> after previous bids for it collapsed. A previous bid from Spyker was rejected by GM in late December because GM was uncomfortable with Spyker's Russian backers. The biggest investor in Spyker is the Russian bank Convers Group, which is controlled by Alexander Antonov. In March, Mr. Antonov was shot seven times and reportedly lost a finger in an attempt on his life in Moscow. No arrests have been made. His son Vladimir, 34, is a top executive at Convers and the chairman of Spyker."</i> GM is taking a bath on the deal, financially speaking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>johncadengo writes " General Motors said today that it has struck a preliminary deal to sell Saab to Spyker Cars , a tiny Dutch maker of high-end sports cars , saving the Swedish automaker from what seemed like certain extinction after previous bids for it collapsed .
A previous bid from Spyker was rejected by GM in late December because GM was uncomfortable with Spyker 's Russian backers .
The biggest investor in Spyker is the Russian bank Convers Group , which is controlled by Alexander Antonov .
In March , Mr. Antonov was shot seven times and reportedly lost a finger in an attempt on his life in Moscow .
No arrests have been made .
His son Vladimir , 34 , is a top executive at Convers and the chairman of Spyker .
" GM is taking a bath on the deal , financially speaking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>johncadengo writes "General Motors said today that it has struck a preliminary deal to sell Saab to Spyker Cars, a tiny Dutch maker of high-end sports cars, saving the Swedish automaker from what seemed like certain extinction after previous bids for it collapsed.
A previous bid from Spyker was rejected by GM in late December because GM was uncomfortable with Spyker's Russian backers.
The biggest investor in Spyker is the Russian bank Convers Group, which is controlled by Alexander Antonov.
In March, Mr. Antonov was shot seven times and reportedly lost a finger in an attempt on his life in Moscow.
No arrests have been made.
His son Vladimir, 34, is a top executive at Convers and the chairman of Spyker.
" GM is taking a bath on the deal, financially speaking.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913050</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264520820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fact that the Russian mob will now be using botnets to spam us with ads for v1@gr@, c 1 @ l 1 s, and (shudder) Saabs is news I'd like to know about as a nerd! I mean, at least there's a legitimate use for the first two!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that the Russian mob will now be using botnets to spam us with ads for v1 @ gr @ , c 1 @ l 1 s , and ( shudder ) Saabs is news I 'd like to know about as a nerd !
I mean , at least there 's a legitimate use for the first two !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that the Russian mob will now be using botnets to spam us with ads for v1@gr@, c 1 @ l 1 s, and (shudder) Saabs is news I'd like to know about as a nerd!
I mean, at least there's a legitimate use for the first two!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913630</id>
	<title>GM Isn't taking a bath, I am.</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1264527540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GM isn't losing shit really, I am, since I paid to bail their asses out and their making retarded decisions that even Timmy knows better than to make.</p><p>They didn't even bother to SELL their 3rd most profitable brand, they just terminated it.</p><p>These people need to be exterminated.  They draw massive freaking salaries and have 0 accountability.  Its time to pull out the tar, feathers and nooses.  This time we hang the right people though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GM is n't losing shit really , I am , since I paid to bail their asses out and their making retarded decisions that even Timmy knows better than to make.They did n't even bother to SELL their 3rd most profitable brand , they just terminated it.These people need to be exterminated .
They draw massive freaking salaries and have 0 accountability .
Its time to pull out the tar , feathers and nooses .
This time we hang the right people though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GM isn't losing shit really, I am, since I paid to bail their asses out and their making retarded decisions that even Timmy knows better than to make.They didn't even bother to SELL their 3rd most profitable brand, they just terminated it.These people need to be exterminated.
They draw massive freaking salaries and have 0 accountability.
Its time to pull out the tar, feathers and nooses.
This time we hang the right people though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915196</id>
	<title>Re:How about a (-2) hate-speech mod.</title>
	<author>mcvos</author>
	<datestamp>1264593540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How about a (-2) 'hate speech' mod.</p><p>Then I can read slashdot at a -1 threshold without having to read this crap.<br>(some Offtopic -1 post are still interesting)</p></div><p>I agree wholeheartedly. And who the hell modded this Flamebait? Offtopic, perhaps, but still a very valid point, considering the recent crap that trolls have been posting on Slashdot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about a ( -2 ) 'hate speech ' mod.Then I can read slashdot at a -1 threshold without having to read this crap .
( some Offtopic -1 post are still interesting ) I agree wholeheartedly .
And who the hell modded this Flamebait ?
Offtopic , perhaps , but still a very valid point , considering the recent crap that trolls have been posting on Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about a (-2) 'hate speech' mod.Then I can read slashdot at a -1 threshold without having to read this crap.
(some Offtopic -1 post are still interesting)I agree wholeheartedly.
And who the hell modded this Flamebait?
Offtopic, perhaps, but still a very valid point, considering the recent crap that trolls have been posting on Slashdot.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915626</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Neoprofin</author>
	<datestamp>1264598340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't remember anyone forgetting about Cadillac or Lincoln, last time I took a look at pop culture they're just as strong of brands as they've been. The problem is that Saab has never been in that market. <br> <br>

Wannabe pimps and high rollers don't want a "Swedish car" built around safety and responsive winter driving.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't remember anyone forgetting about Cadillac or Lincoln , last time I took a look at pop culture they 're just as strong of brands as they 've been .
The problem is that Saab has never been in that market .
Wannabe pimps and high rollers do n't want a " Swedish car " built around safety and responsive winter driving .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't remember anyone forgetting about Cadillac or Lincoln, last time I took a look at pop culture they're just as strong of brands as they've been.
The problem is that Saab has never been in that market.
Wannabe pimps and high rollers don't want a "Swedish car" built around safety and responsive winter driving.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917158</id>
	<title>What a saab story</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264607160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, I couldn't resist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , I could n't resist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, I couldn't resist.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912904</id>
	<title>Financially Speaking?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264519500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did kdawson worry that we might think GM executives would have to take a bath literally?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did kdawson worry that we might think GM executives would have to take a bath literally ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did kdawson worry that we might think GM executives would have to take a bath literally?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913168</id>
	<title>Re:Niggers and spics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264522260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we get rid of all the niggers and spics, the world will just be left with white trash like yourself.</p><p>You know who I'm talking about. Those ignorant fucking crackers that haven't learned a damn thing in their life, and aren't likely to learn a damn thing before they die.</p><p>You fucking ignorant ass crackers make me sick. Take out a 3rd mortgage on your double-wide out in the sticks to buy yourself a big screen TV. Then you blame the niggers when the bank comes to repossess your trailer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we get rid of all the niggers and spics , the world will just be left with white trash like yourself.You know who I 'm talking about .
Those ignorant fucking crackers that have n't learned a damn thing in their life , and are n't likely to learn a damn thing before they die.You fucking ignorant ass crackers make me sick .
Take out a 3rd mortgage on your double-wide out in the sticks to buy yourself a big screen TV .
Then you blame the niggers when the bank comes to repossess your trailer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we get rid of all the niggers and spics, the world will just be left with white trash like yourself.You know who I'm talking about.
Those ignorant fucking crackers that haven't learned a damn thing in their life, and aren't likely to learn a damn thing before they die.You fucking ignorant ass crackers make me sick.
Take out a 3rd mortgage on your double-wide out in the sticks to buy yourself a big screen TV.
Then you blame the niggers when the bank comes to repossess your trailer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912862</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912940</id>
	<title>They should do a marketing tie-in with ABBA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264519740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a no-brainer, same nationality, similar names, same sleek Euro image.  Everything fits.</p><p>"Driving downtown when the lights are low..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a no-brainer , same nationality , similar names , same sleek Euro image .
Everything fits .
" Driving downtown when the lights are low... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a no-brainer, same nationality, similar names, same sleek Euro image.
Everything fits.
"Driving downtown when the lights are low..."</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916138</id>
	<title>Re:Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264602120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Saab sold 23,000 cars worldwide last year. MINI sold at least 25,000 units in the US alone. And Dead Brand Pontiac sold 27,000 units in the US in July, 2008.</p><p>So when they say Saab is a niche brand, they ain't kidding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Saab sold 23,000 cars worldwide last year .
MINI sold at least 25,000 units in the US alone .
And Dead Brand Pontiac sold 27,000 units in the US in July , 2008.So when they say Saab is a niche brand , they ai n't kidding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saab sold 23,000 cars worldwide last year.
MINI sold at least 25,000 units in the US alone.
And Dead Brand Pontiac sold 27,000 units in the US in July, 2008.So when they say Saab is a niche brand, they ain't kidding.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916332</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>supermank17</author>
	<datestamp>1264603200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're right on about the interior coating, although I'd go one farther and say the entire interior could use some improvement. I love my Saab, but the interior just isn't up to par with its competitors; GM's cheap plastic is everywhere, the leather isn't as high quality, and there are way too many rattles. More worrying is that the cheaper interior just doesn't wear that well; my two year old Saab looks far shabbier on the interior than my sister-in-law's 5 year old Audi. <br>
If they fix that, I'd be supremely happy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right on about the interior coating , although I 'd go one farther and say the entire interior could use some improvement .
I love my Saab , but the interior just is n't up to par with its competitors ; GM 's cheap plastic is everywhere , the leather is n't as high quality , and there are way too many rattles .
More worrying is that the cheaper interior just does n't wear that well ; my two year old Saab looks far shabbier on the interior than my sister-in-law 's 5 year old Audi .
If they fix that , I 'd be supremely happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right on about the interior coating, although I'd go one farther and say the entire interior could use some improvement.
I love my Saab, but the interior just isn't up to par with its competitors; GM's cheap plastic is everywhere, the leather isn't as high quality, and there are way too many rattles.
More worrying is that the cheaper interior just doesn't wear that well; my two year old Saab looks far shabbier on the interior than my sister-in-law's 5 year old Audi.
If they fix that, I'd be supremely happy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914950</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>tsa</author>
	<datestamp>1264590300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I don't trust this Victor Muller guy one but. His track record is abonimable. He first fired Maarten de Bruijn, who was the designer of the Spyker cars and the founder of the company because Maarten Maarten had a more conservative idea about money making than Victor had. Then Victor started a Formula 1 adventure that drove Spyker to the edge of bankrupty. And now he has borrowed 400 million euros to buy Saab, an amount of money he will never be able to pay back if you ask me. He has no experience at all in running a large car factory either. I will not be surprised if both Saab and Spyker are dead half a year from now. That would be devastating because both company make truly unique cars that touch the hearts of many people. For more information you can look up the <a href="http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyker\_Cars" title="wikipedia.org">Dutch</a> [wikipedia.org] and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyker\_Cars" title="wikipedia.org">English</a> [wikipedia.org] entries in Wikipedia for Spyker Cars and references therein.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I do n't trust this Victor Muller guy one but .
His track record is abonimable .
He first fired Maarten de Bruijn , who was the designer of the Spyker cars and the founder of the company because Maarten Maarten had a more conservative idea about money making than Victor had .
Then Victor started a Formula 1 adventure that drove Spyker to the edge of bankrupty .
And now he has borrowed 400 million euros to buy Saab , an amount of money he will never be able to pay back if you ask me .
He has no experience at all in running a large car factory either .
I will not be surprised if both Saab and Spyker are dead half a year from now .
That would be devastating because both company make truly unique cars that touch the hearts of many people .
For more information you can look up the Dutch [ wikipedia.org ] and English [ wikipedia.org ] entries in Wikipedia for Spyker Cars and references therein .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I don't trust this Victor Muller guy one but.
His track record is abonimable.
He first fired Maarten de Bruijn, who was the designer of the Spyker cars and the founder of the company because Maarten Maarten had a more conservative idea about money making than Victor had.
Then Victor started a Formula 1 adventure that drove Spyker to the edge of bankrupty.
And now he has borrowed 400 million euros to buy Saab, an amount of money he will never be able to pay back if you ask me.
He has no experience at all in running a large car factory either.
I will not be surprised if both Saab and Spyker are dead half a year from now.
That would be devastating because both company make truly unique cars that touch the hearts of many people.
For more information you can look up the Dutch [wikipedia.org] and English [wikipedia.org] entries in Wikipedia for Spyker Cars and references therein.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913750</id>
	<title>OK, let's reword it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264528860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Spyker has 130-odd employees and builds around 40 cars a year.<br>Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.<br>Neither of them make money.</p><p>- Who is kidding who with this particularly peculiar "takeover"?</p></div><p>Some of those 130 Spyker employees are high-level management. So let's reword it:</p><p>Saab is being bought by a Russian bank, who is installing Spyker executives as its management.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Spyker has 130-odd employees and builds around 40 cars a year.Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.Neither of them make money.- Who is kidding who with this particularly peculiar " takeover " ? Some of those 130 Spyker employees are high-level management .
So let 's reword it : Saab is being bought by a Russian bank , who is installing Spyker executives as its management .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spyker has 130-odd employees and builds around 40 cars a year.Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.Neither of them make money.- Who is kidding who with this particularly peculiar "takeover"?Some of those 130 Spyker employees are high-level management.
So let's reword it:Saab is being bought by a Russian bank, who is installing Spyker executives as its management.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30930862</id>
	<title>Who's taking a bath?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264672080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <b>The U.S. taxpayer</b> is taking a bath on the deal, financially speaking.</p></div><p>Fixed that for you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The U.S. taxpayer is taking a bath on the deal , financially speaking.Fixed that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The U.S. taxpayer is taking a bath on the deal, financially speaking.Fixed that for you.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913676</id>
	<title>Re:A real geeky car is a GTO.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264528020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What makes a '70s car nerdy? I could make a venturi tube (think carburetor) when I was in 3rd grade. Six injectors, a continuous-feedback fuel control system, servo controlled throttle body for drive by wire?</p><p>Nah, my MY2000's a lot more fun to screw with. I'm pretty sure I could tear down just about any simple-as-pie 70's muscle car like a tinkertoy in a day and a half. In high school.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes a '70s car nerdy ?
I could make a venturi tube ( think carburetor ) when I was in 3rd grade .
Six injectors , a continuous-feedback fuel control system , servo controlled throttle body for drive by wire ? Nah , my MY2000 's a lot more fun to screw with .
I 'm pretty sure I could tear down just about any simple-as-pie 70 's muscle car like a tinkertoy in a day and a half .
In high school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes a '70s car nerdy?
I could make a venturi tube (think carburetor) when I was in 3rd grade.
Six injectors, a continuous-feedback fuel control system, servo controlled throttle body for drive by wire?Nah, my MY2000's a lot more fun to screw with.
I'm pretty sure I could tear down just about any simple-as-pie 70's muscle car like a tinkertoy in a day and a half.
In high school.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913430</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30930054</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>johngineer</author>
	<datestamp>1264618500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Saab is nerdy, but like most things nerdy it has been overtaken by yuppie idiots with something to prove.

I say let it die.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Saab is nerdy , but like most things nerdy it has been overtaken by yuppie idiots with something to prove .
I say let it die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saab is nerdy, but like most things nerdy it has been overtaken by yuppie idiots with something to prove.
I say let it die.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914140</id>
	<title>Re:Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1264533360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's see:</p><p>
&nbsp; * GM is run by beancounters who landed GM where they were last winter<br>
&nbsp; * Spyker can't produce enough cars and <i>needs</i> production facilties; which Saab factories provide in spades<br>
&nbsp; * Saab needs passionate management, not an owner who will just take the best engineering Saab produces for other products, leaving Saab with crap to work with.</p><p>Given how badly GM has mismanaged Saab, it is amazing just how good the 9-3 and 9-5's track records are. They are extremely reliable (2003 9-3 teething issues aside; pretty much expected with any new car model), they are the best in their class for crash testing, are very comfortable, can achieve well over 30mpg(combined.. My best full tank to date is 36mpg) when driven conservatively. Handling is really good (the passive rear wheel steering helps!), it has the only stability control system and ABS I don't hate, and braking is incredible.</p><p>Saab can turn around. Look at what BMW and Audi have done; both have been at the brink of failure in the not so distant past.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see :   * GM is run by beancounters who landed GM where they were last winter   * Spyker ca n't produce enough cars and needs production facilties ; which Saab factories provide in spades   * Saab needs passionate management , not an owner who will just take the best engineering Saab produces for other products , leaving Saab with crap to work with.Given how badly GM has mismanaged Saab , it is amazing just how good the 9-3 and 9-5 's track records are .
They are extremely reliable ( 2003 9-3 teething issues aside ; pretty much expected with any new car model ) , they are the best in their class for crash testing , are very comfortable , can achieve well over 30mpg ( combined.. My best full tank to date is 36mpg ) when driven conservatively .
Handling is really good ( the passive rear wheel steering helps !
) , it has the only stability control system and ABS I do n't hate , and braking is incredible.Saab can turn around .
Look at what BMW and Audi have done ; both have been at the brink of failure in the not so distant past .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see:
  * GM is run by beancounters who landed GM where they were last winter
  * Spyker can't produce enough cars and needs production facilties; which Saab factories provide in spades
  * Saab needs passionate management, not an owner who will just take the best engineering Saab produces for other products, leaving Saab with crap to work with.Given how badly GM has mismanaged Saab, it is amazing just how good the 9-3 and 9-5's track records are.
They are extremely reliable (2003 9-3 teething issues aside; pretty much expected with any new car model), they are the best in their class for crash testing, are very comfortable, can achieve well over 30mpg(combined.. My best full tank to date is 36mpg) when driven conservatively.
Handling is really good (the passive rear wheel steering helps!
), it has the only stability control system and ABS I don't hate, and braking is incredible.Saab can turn around.
Look at what BMW and Audi have done; both have been at the brink of failure in the not so distant past.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915962</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264601040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree. What SAAB needs is to profile itself as being special. Loads of high-tech performance and neat design.</p><p>They were pitted against markets overflowing with middle-of-the-road cars (pun!), markets in which it had no chance since it was a small fringe manufacturer lacking all the economics of scale.</p><p>I have some faith that Spyker may be able to let SAAB become what it ought to be, as they already manufacture small amounts of enthusiast cars.</p><p>Also, they need to drop the disingenuous attempts to associate with SAAB Aerotech. There is nothing in the cars with any even remote resemblance to airplanes, so stop trying to market them that way!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/Owner of 9-5</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
What SAAB needs is to profile itself as being special .
Loads of high-tech performance and neat design.They were pitted against markets overflowing with middle-of-the-road cars ( pun !
) , markets in which it had no chance since it was a small fringe manufacturer lacking all the economics of scale.I have some faith that Spyker may be able to let SAAB become what it ought to be , as they already manufacture small amounts of enthusiast cars.Also , they need to drop the disingenuous attempts to associate with SAAB Aerotech .
There is nothing in the cars with any even remote resemblance to airplanes , so stop trying to market them that way !
/Owner of 9-5</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
What SAAB needs is to profile itself as being special.
Loads of high-tech performance and neat design.They were pitted against markets overflowing with middle-of-the-road cars (pun!
), markets in which it had no chance since it was a small fringe manufacturer lacking all the economics of scale.I have some faith that Spyker may be able to let SAAB become what it ought to be, as they already manufacture small amounts of enthusiast cars.Also, they need to drop the disingenuous attempts to associate with SAAB Aerotech.
There is nothing in the cars with any even remote resemblance to airplanes, so stop trying to market them that way!
/Owner of 9-5</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914618</id>
	<title>back to the future...</title>
	<author>pr100</author>
	<datestamp>1264584720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope that the new owners find some of what Saab had before the GM takeover. They were interesting, quirky cars; since GM bought them they've become more or less generic eurocars with little to distinguish them from so many other brands out there.</p><p>I'm old enough to care little about cars these days - they're a tool for getting you about - but I do have a soft spot for Saab as my first couple of cars where Saabs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope that the new owners find some of what Saab had before the GM takeover .
They were interesting , quirky cars ; since GM bought them they 've become more or less generic eurocars with little to distinguish them from so many other brands out there.I 'm old enough to care little about cars these days - they 're a tool for getting you about - but I do have a soft spot for Saab as my first couple of cars where Saabs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope that the new owners find some of what Saab had before the GM takeover.
They were interesting, quirky cars; since GM bought them they've become more or less generic eurocars with little to distinguish them from so many other brands out there.I'm old enough to care little about cars these days - they're a tool for getting you about - but I do have a soft spot for Saab as my first couple of cars where Saabs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914768</id>
	<title>Re:Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste</title>
	<author>MrMr</author>
	<datestamp>1264587300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Two thoughts on that: When Saab isn't required to buy substandard GM gear at inflated prices it may turn out to be profitable yet.<br>And obviously SAAB doesn't need to be profitable, if they manage to restore a bit of the brands credibility, that in itself will increase the share value enough to sell it back to GM with a profit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Two thoughts on that : When Saab is n't required to buy substandard GM gear at inflated prices it may turn out to be profitable yet.And obviously SAAB does n't need to be profitable , if they manage to restore a bit of the brands credibility , that in itself will increase the share value enough to sell it back to GM with a profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two thoughts on that: When Saab isn't required to buy substandard GM gear at inflated prices it may turn out to be profitable yet.And obviously SAAB doesn't need to be profitable, if they manage to restore a bit of the brands credibility, that in itself will increase the share value enough to sell it back to GM with a profit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30920656</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1264620300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see a lot of Hyundai taxis (mainly Tucsons) around.  They can't be that bad - people who use kit for their jobs tend to now what they're doing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see a lot of Hyundai taxis ( mainly Tucsons ) around .
They ca n't be that bad - people who use kit for their jobs tend to now what they 're doing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see a lot of Hyundai taxis (mainly Tucsons) around.
They can't be that bad - people who use kit for their jobs tend to now what they're doing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914676</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912862</id>
	<title>Niggers and spics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264518960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Death to niggers and spics!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Death to niggers and spics !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Death to niggers and spics!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30924952</id>
	<title>Re:Time for GM to dump all European brands</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264587840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SAAB was not making when GM bought them. They were in a down word spiral.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SAAB was not making when GM bought them .
They were in a down word spiral .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SAAB was not making when GM bought them.
They were in a down word spiral.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914060</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913814</id>
	<title>Re:A real geeky car is a GTO.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264529520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My 73 Olds Delta 88 would crush your little Saab!</p></div><p>Probably true.  Saab pioneered crumple zones and collapsable steering columns.</p><p>You'd be dead, and my car would be ruined.  I know which side of that equation I'd prefer to be on.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My 73 Olds Delta 88 would crush your little Saab ! Probably true .
Saab pioneered crumple zones and collapsable steering columns.You 'd be dead , and my car would be ruined .
I know which side of that equation I 'd prefer to be on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My 73 Olds Delta 88 would crush your little Saab!Probably true.
Saab pioneered crumple zones and collapsable steering columns.You'd be dead, and my car would be ruined.
I know which side of that equation I'd prefer to be on.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913430</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915952</id>
	<title>Re:A real geeky car is a GTO.</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1264600920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Crumple zones work for everyone regardless of which vehicle you're in. Meanwhile, the lighter vehicle still experiences a greater change in momentum. If he dies and you don't, it's not because your car has the crumple zones, but because of the other safety features. Now, if you both hit a brick wall, you're more likely to live... unless your car crumples up against his first.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Crumple zones work for everyone regardless of which vehicle you 're in .
Meanwhile , the lighter vehicle still experiences a greater change in momentum .
If he dies and you do n't , it 's not because your car has the crumple zones , but because of the other safety features .
Now , if you both hit a brick wall , you 're more likely to live... unless your car crumples up against his first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Crumple zones work for everyone regardless of which vehicle you're in.
Meanwhile, the lighter vehicle still experiences a greater change in momentum.
If he dies and you don't, it's not because your car has the crumple zones, but because of the other safety features.
Now, if you both hit a brick wall, you're more likely to live... unless your car crumples up against his first.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913814</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30922158</id>
	<title>Spyker's cars are dead sexy!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264623780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got to see two of them about a year ago in Chicago (Chicago Auto Show 2009, McCormick Place)-even next to Ferrarri's and Lamborghini's, the Spykers turned my head! Although the other two cars I mentioned would likely kick its butt in a race, the Spykers win hands-down in styling. The engines are made by Audi. Pricing is around US $250K 'ish, and I really want one...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got to see two of them about a year ago in Chicago ( Chicago Auto Show 2009 , McCormick Place ) -even next to Ferrarri 's and Lamborghini 's , the Spykers turned my head !
Although the other two cars I mentioned would likely kick its butt in a race , the Spykers win hands-down in styling .
The engines are made by Audi .
Pricing is around US $ 250K 'ish , and I really want one.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got to see two of them about a year ago in Chicago (Chicago Auto Show 2009, McCormick Place)-even next to Ferrarri's and Lamborghini's, the Spykers turned my head!
Although the other two cars I mentioned would likely kick its butt in a race, the Spykers win hands-down in styling.
The engines are made by Audi.
Pricing is around US $250K 'ish, and I really want one...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915006</id>
	<title>Re:Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste</title>
	<author>GerryHattrick</author>
	<datestamp>1264591260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...and the venture money comes from Russia.  Only the first chess move, so far.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...and the venture money comes from Russia .
Only the first chess move , so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and the venture money comes from Russia.
Only the first chess move, so far.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30931650</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264681800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Mr. Antonov was shot seven times after saying that Saab should be hauled away as garbage.<br>Which is contrary to earlier reports of him saying that Saab should be hauling garbage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mr. Antonov was shot seven times after saying that Saab should be hauled away as garbage.Which is contrary to earlier reports of him saying that Saab should be hauling garbage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Mr. Antonov was shot seven times after saying that Saab should be hauled away as garbage.Which is contrary to earlier reports of him saying that Saab should be hauling garbage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913232</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919906</id>
	<title>Re:Time for GM to dump all European brands</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1264617540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NO, SAAB was NOT profitable when GM bought them. They were losing HUNDREDS of millions a year.</p><p>WTF is wrong with people? Don't you do ANY research?</p><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/11/business/saab-venture-reports-loss.html" title="nytimes.com">http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/11/business/saab-venture-reports-loss.html</a> [nytimes.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NO , SAAB was NOT profitable when GM bought them .
They were losing HUNDREDS of millions a year.WTF is wrong with people ?
Do n't you do ANY research ? http : //www.nytimes.com/1990/06/11/business/saab-venture-reports-loss.html [ nytimes.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NO, SAAB was NOT profitable when GM bought them.
They were losing HUNDREDS of millions a year.WTF is wrong with people?
Don't you do ANY research?http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/11/business/saab-venture-reports-loss.html [nytimes.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914060</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915122</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264592760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As far as I know, Mercedes has thankfully kept RWD on all models except the A and B classes, and AWD is either an option or standard on most other (think G-class). Seriously, snow isn't a problem for RWD cars in places whetre it might ever snow a little, people here in Europe manage to drive their MBs, BMWs, Jaguars, and a bunch of other rear-drive cars just fine, and it snows here (western/central europe) every year. I might agree if the roadsare covered with snow for many months and you live in a hillly area, but otherwise snow tires do just fine.</p><p>Aaanyway, Saab (which I love for their C900 and 9000 cars) definitiely has a place in the market, but it's not that easy to figure out where to fit the brand. Saabs were never real luxury cars, and are close to lower-midrange Benz and BMW models. The problem is, evedybody else is catching up. The Ford Mondeo, once responsible for the term "Mondeo man", meaning average Joe, is just as good as the comparable BMW on almost every level if we aren't talking about the M3/M5 (most cars sold are in the 318-325 range probably, maybe even diesel). It's also cheaper, yet it's beign outsold by the 3-series. The main thing the Mondeo lacks, in my opinion, is RWD and a roundel on the grille. Maybe they should've resurrected the Scorpio instead.</p><p>The point is, having a good, competitive product, which Saab doesn't really have at the moment (the current 9-5 is 13, yes <b>thirteen</b> years old), isn't enough. It must be properly positioned and differentiated from the competition. This was especially problematic for the GM Saab, as their cars were based on Opel platforms with Opel drivetrains, mostly. Their main game remained turbocharges everywhere, but they didn't take full advantage of this and now everybody has turbos, sadly, even the new M5.</p><p>-mobby\_6kl</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as I know , Mercedes has thankfully kept RWD on all models except the A and B classes , and AWD is either an option or standard on most other ( think G-class ) .
Seriously , snow is n't a problem for RWD cars in places whetre it might ever snow a little , people here in Europe manage to drive their MBs , BMWs , Jaguars , and a bunch of other rear-drive cars just fine , and it snows here ( western/central europe ) every year .
I might agree if the roadsare covered with snow for many months and you live in a hillly area , but otherwise snow tires do just fine.Aaanyway , Saab ( which I love for their C900 and 9000 cars ) definitiely has a place in the market , but it 's not that easy to figure out where to fit the brand .
Saabs were never real luxury cars , and are close to lower-midrange Benz and BMW models .
The problem is , evedybody else is catching up .
The Ford Mondeo , once responsible for the term " Mondeo man " , meaning average Joe , is just as good as the comparable BMW on almost every level if we are n't talking about the M3/M5 ( most cars sold are in the 318-325 range probably , maybe even diesel ) .
It 's also cheaper , yet it 's beign outsold by the 3-series .
The main thing the Mondeo lacks , in my opinion , is RWD and a roundel on the grille .
Maybe they should 've resurrected the Scorpio instead.The point is , having a good , competitive product , which Saab does n't really have at the moment ( the current 9-5 is 13 , yes thirteen years old ) , is n't enough .
It must be properly positioned and differentiated from the competition .
This was especially problematic for the GM Saab , as their cars were based on Opel platforms with Opel drivetrains , mostly .
Their main game remained turbocharges everywhere , but they did n't take full advantage of this and now everybody has turbos , sadly , even the new M5.-mobby \ _6kl</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as I know, Mercedes has thankfully kept RWD on all models except the A and B classes, and AWD is either an option or standard on most other (think G-class).
Seriously, snow isn't a problem for RWD cars in places whetre it might ever snow a little, people here in Europe manage to drive their MBs, BMWs, Jaguars, and a bunch of other rear-drive cars just fine, and it snows here (western/central europe) every year.
I might agree if the roadsare covered with snow for many months and you live in a hillly area, but otherwise snow tires do just fine.Aaanyway, Saab (which I love for their C900 and 9000 cars) definitiely has a place in the market, but it's not that easy to figure out where to fit the brand.
Saabs were never real luxury cars, and are close to lower-midrange Benz and BMW models.
The problem is, evedybody else is catching up.
The Ford Mondeo, once responsible for the term "Mondeo man", meaning average Joe, is just as good as the comparable BMW on almost every level if we aren't talking about the M3/M5 (most cars sold are in the 318-325 range probably, maybe even diesel).
It's also cheaper, yet it's beign outsold by the 3-series.
The main thing the Mondeo lacks, in my opinion, is RWD and a roundel on the grille.
Maybe they should've resurrected the Scorpio instead.The point is, having a good, competitive product, which Saab doesn't really have at the moment (the current 9-5 is 13, yes thirteen years old), isn't enough.
It must be properly positioned and differentiated from the competition.
This was especially problematic for the GM Saab, as their cars were based on Opel platforms with Opel drivetrains, mostly.
Their main game remained turbocharges everywhere, but they didn't take full advantage of this and now everybody has turbos, sadly, even the new M5.-mobby\_6kl</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915086</id>
	<title>Re:Time for GM to dump all European brands</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264592160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's 'cause we've got the brains <b>and</b> the money (especially Russia).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's 'cause we 've got the brains and the money ( especially Russia ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's 'cause we've got the brains and the money (especially Russia).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914148</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913562</id>
	<title>Re:Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264526880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Spyker has 130-odd employees and builds around 40 cars a year.<br>Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.</p></div><p>So what you are saying is at SAAB each employee makes about 3 cars a year,<br>while at Spyker each employe takes about 3 years to make a car?</p><p>Somehow the numerologist inside likes that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Spyker has 130-odd employees and builds around 40 cars a year.Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.So what you are saying is at SAAB each employee makes about 3 cars a year,while at Spyker each employe takes about 3 years to make a car ? Somehow the numerologist inside likes that ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spyker has 130-odd employees and builds around 40 cars a year.Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.So what you are saying is at SAAB each employee makes about 3 cars a year,while at Spyker each employe takes about 3 years to make a car?Somehow the numerologist inside likes that ;)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913968</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1264531440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because Spyker makes <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyker\_C8" title="wikipedia.org">this</a> [wikipedia.org] (which was featured in the Jet Li/Jason Statham movie <i>War</i>.) Car nerds are nerds too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because Spyker makes this [ wikipedia.org ] ( which was featured in the Jet Li/Jason Statham movie War .
) Car nerds are nerds too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because Spyker makes this [wikipedia.org] (which was featured in the Jet Li/Jason Statham movie War.
) Car nerds are nerds too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914962</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264590660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A car is just as nerdy as any other hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A car is just as nerdy as any other hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A car is just as nerdy as any other hardware.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914644</id>
	<title>Re:OK, let's reword it...</title>
	<author>AlexanderOnline</author>
	<datestamp>1264585140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know why they mention Antonov in this story here now. As you can all read in the press release ( <a href="http://www.spykercars.nl/download/artikel/statement\_SAAB\_jan\_26\_final.pdf" title="spykercars.nl" rel="nofollow">http://www.spykercars.nl/download/artikel/statement\_SAAB\_jan\_26\_final.pdf</a> [spykercars.nl] ), CEO Victor Muller did a management buyout and is the 100\% owner of Sypker. Antonov is not an investor in Spyker anymore!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know why they mention Antonov in this story here now .
As you can all read in the press release ( http : //www.spykercars.nl/download/artikel/statement \ _SAAB \ _jan \ _26 \ _final.pdf [ spykercars.nl ] ) , CEO Victor Muller did a management buyout and is the 100 \ % owner of Sypker .
Antonov is not an investor in Spyker anymore !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know why they mention Antonov in this story here now.
As you can all read in the press release ( http://www.spykercars.nl/download/artikel/statement\_SAAB\_jan\_26\_final.pdf [spykercars.nl] ), CEO Victor Muller did a management buyout and is the 100\% owner of Sypker.
Antonov is not an investor in Spyker anymore!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916028</id>
	<title>Re:A real geeky car is a GTO.</title>
	<author>SteveFoerster</author>
	<datestamp>1264601520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speed Racer?  Is that you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speed Racer ?
Is that you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speed Racer?
Is that you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913676</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915270</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>KlaymenDK</author>
	<datestamp>1264594380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm totally with you on all of your points -- except "<i>2. Go RWD</i>".<br>Are you mad!? Whatever happened to your opening statement of SAAB being all about "performance-oriented driving and safety"?No sir, rear-wheel drive is only for sports and race cars, as well as for American cars, Mercedes and BMW (who seem to think that all their cars are sports cars?). XWD is quite another matter, of course.</p><p>I'm very glad to see SAAB once again in the hands of a manufacturer that actually loves cars (rather than only their bottom line). Although, I'm so glad that I'm not a SAAB employee, this constant change of ownership cannot be good for morale.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm totally with you on all of your points -- except " 2 .
Go RWD " .Are you mad ! ?
Whatever happened to your opening statement of SAAB being all about " performance-oriented driving and safety " ? No sir , rear-wheel drive is only for sports and race cars , as well as for American cars , Mercedes and BMW ( who seem to think that all their cars are sports cars ? ) .
XWD is quite another matter , of course.I 'm very glad to see SAAB once again in the hands of a manufacturer that actually loves cars ( rather than only their bottom line ) .
Although , I 'm so glad that I 'm not a SAAB employee , this constant change of ownership can not be good for morale .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm totally with you on all of your points -- except "2.
Go RWD".Are you mad!?
Whatever happened to your opening statement of SAAB being all about "performance-oriented driving and safety"?No sir, rear-wheel drive is only for sports and race cars, as well as for American cars, Mercedes and BMW (who seem to think that all their cars are sports cars?).
XWD is quite another matter, of course.I'm very glad to see SAAB once again in the hands of a manufacturer that actually loves cars (rather than only their bottom line).
Although, I'm so glad that I'm not a SAAB employee, this constant change of ownership cannot be good for morale.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917440</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Syberz</author>
	<datestamp>1264608300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree with you for everything except #2. RWD in winter time is fun at the begining but it gets real old, real fast.</p><p>I drove my mom's RWD Mercedes for a while during winter and really disliked having to correct when steering whenever I took a turn a bit too sharply (like at an intersection) and also getting out of an icy parallel parking spot was nigh impossible (I never had that problem with a FWD).</p><p>I currently have a 1999 Saab 9-3 and I love the car. For a mere 6000$CAD I got a lot of room, leather interior, sunroof, car computer, heated seats (will never buy a car without those ever again), comfort, reliability, fuel efficiency (relatively speaking) and power.</p><p>People always thought my Saab looked weird with it's hatch-back, I was quite surprised to see the new Honda Accord hatch, it has the same lines as my 10 year old car!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with you for everything except # 2 .
RWD in winter time is fun at the begining but it gets real old , real fast.I drove my mom 's RWD Mercedes for a while during winter and really disliked having to correct when steering whenever I took a turn a bit too sharply ( like at an intersection ) and also getting out of an icy parallel parking spot was nigh impossible ( I never had that problem with a FWD ) .I currently have a 1999 Saab 9-3 and I love the car .
For a mere 6000 $ CAD I got a lot of room , leather interior , sunroof , car computer , heated seats ( will never buy a car without those ever again ) , comfort , reliability , fuel efficiency ( relatively speaking ) and power.People always thought my Saab looked weird with it 's hatch-back , I was quite surprised to see the new Honda Accord hatch , it has the same lines as my 10 year old car !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with you for everything except #2.
RWD in winter time is fun at the begining but it gets real old, real fast.I drove my mom's RWD Mercedes for a while during winter and really disliked having to correct when steering whenever I took a turn a bit too sharply (like at an intersection) and also getting out of an icy parallel parking spot was nigh impossible (I never had that problem with a FWD).I currently have a 1999 Saab 9-3 and I love the car.
For a mere 6000$CAD I got a lot of room, leather interior, sunroof, car computer, heated seats (will never buy a car without those ever again), comfort, reliability, fuel efficiency (relatively speaking) and power.People always thought my Saab looked weird with it's hatch-back, I was quite surprised to see the new Honda Accord hatch, it has the same lines as my 10 year old car!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30922414</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264624380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s,"</p><p>I don't feel like mincing words, so I will get straight to the point :</p><p>You don't know shit about Audis if you think the Audis from the 1980s<br>were bad cars.</p><p>The cars from the 1980s ( Urquattro, 4000 Quattro, etc. ) were the<br>cars which built the Audi legend.</p><p>Damn, I wish we were in a bar so I could toss a beer in your face, you<br>cum-slurping know-nothing faggot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s , " I do n't feel like mincing words , so I will get straight to the point : You do n't know shit about Audis if you think the Audis from the 1980swere bad cars.The cars from the 1980s ( Urquattro , 4000 Quattro , etc .
) were thecars which built the Audi legend.Damn , I wish we were in a bar so I could toss a beer in your face , youcum-slurping know-nothing faggot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s,"I don't feel like mincing words, so I will get straight to the point :You don't know shit about Audis if you think the Audis from the 1980swere bad cars.The cars from the 1980s ( Urquattro, 4000 Quattro, etc.
) were thecars which built the Audi legend.Damn, I wish we were in a bar so I could toss a beer in your face, youcum-slurping know-nothing faggot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913724</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1264528560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>2.  WTF is XWD?  Using alternate front and rear for drive randomly?  Its AWD or 4WD.</p><p>3.  No haggle pricing means 'we say no haggle, but you're an idiot if you don't do it anyway'.  Saturn has been 'no haggle' for years, and you're a fucking idiot if you buy the car at list since you could go buy the same car as a pontiac at the same or hire MSRP and haggle your way down to far lower</p><p>5.  You'd be a liar since the 'born from jets' thing hasn't applied for 20 years.</p><p>All of this only works to save 'loyal' (read: idiot) customers.  Brand loyalty is good if the products are good, when the products suck, being loyal just makes you stupid and continuing to support an inferior product gets you what you deserve, wasted money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2 .
WTF is XWD ?
Using alternate front and rear for drive randomly ?
Its AWD or 4WD.3 .
No haggle pricing means 'we say no haggle , but you 're an idiot if you do n't do it anyway' .
Saturn has been 'no haggle ' for years , and you 're a fucking idiot if you buy the car at list since you could go buy the same car as a pontiac at the same or hire MSRP and haggle your way down to far lower5 .
You 'd be a liar since the 'born from jets ' thing has n't applied for 20 years.All of this only works to save 'loyal ' ( read : idiot ) customers .
Brand loyalty is good if the products are good , when the products suck , being loyal just makes you stupid and continuing to support an inferior product gets you what you deserve , wasted money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2.
WTF is XWD?
Using alternate front and rear for drive randomly?
Its AWD or 4WD.3.
No haggle pricing means 'we say no haggle, but you're an idiot if you don't do it anyway'.
Saturn has been 'no haggle' for years, and you're a fucking idiot if you buy the car at list since you could go buy the same car as a pontiac at the same or hire MSRP and haggle your way down to far lower5.
You'd be a liar since the 'born from jets' thing hasn't applied for 20 years.All of this only works to save 'loyal' (read: idiot) customers.
Brand loyalty is good if the products are good, when the products suck, being loyal just makes you stupid and continuing to support an inferior product gets you what you deserve, wasted money.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914938</id>
	<title>Re:Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste</title>
	<author>EJB</author>
	<datestamp>1264590060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It will give Saab employees a little bit more time to search for a new job.<br>That's all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It will give Saab employees a little bit more time to search for a new job.That 's all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will give Saab employees a little bit more time to search for a new job.That's all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884</id>
	<title>good</title>
	<author>stokessd</author>
	<datestamp>1264519200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to want a 900 back in the 80s, then GM bought them.  I hope Spyker can undo the damage GM has done, and turn the cars into something I would like again.</p><p>Sheldon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to want a 900 back in the 80s , then GM bought them .
I hope Spyker can undo the damage GM has done , and turn the cars into something I would like again.Sheldon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to want a 900 back in the 80s, then GM bought them.
I hope Spyker can undo the damage GM has done, and turn the cars into something I would like again.Sheldon</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913048</id>
	<title>Re:Niggers and spics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264520700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you forgot about kikes</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you forgot about kikes</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you forgot about kikes</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912862</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915960</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>NJRoadfan</author>
	<datestamp>1264601040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I owned an 85 audi quattro and I still consider it better than my current BMW 5 series so am I missing something (other than perhaps nostalgia)?. The only major problem with it was the display electronics and AC died in the late 90s, compared to my Taurus which the entire thing nearly disintegrated after 6 years.</p></div><p>Display electronics? Either you lived in Europe or had a  eurospec urquattro. US cars received analog gauges, Europe got the talking digital dashboard (that usually broke). Ironically the AC compressor was pretty much the only part of those cars Made in the USA. The hoses usually leaked all the freon out after a few years.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I owned an 85 audi quattro and I still consider it better than my current BMW 5 series so am I missing something ( other than perhaps nostalgia ) ? .
The only major problem with it was the display electronics and AC died in the late 90s , compared to my Taurus which the entire thing nearly disintegrated after 6 years.Display electronics ?
Either you lived in Europe or had a eurospec urquattro .
US cars received analog gauges , Europe got the talking digital dashboard ( that usually broke ) .
Ironically the AC compressor was pretty much the only part of those cars Made in the USA .
The hoses usually leaked all the freon out after a few years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I owned an 85 audi quattro and I still consider it better than my current BMW 5 series so am I missing something (other than perhaps nostalgia)?.
The only major problem with it was the display electronics and AC died in the late 90s, compared to my Taurus which the entire thing nearly disintegrated after 6 years.Display electronics?
Either you lived in Europe or had a  eurospec urquattro.
US cars received analog gauges, Europe got the talking digital dashboard (that usually broke).
Ironically the AC compressor was pretty much the only part of those cars Made in the USA.
The hoses usually leaked all the freon out after a few years.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914320</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912898</id>
	<title>A bath?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264519440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Correct me if I am wrong: In all of my financial learning, it is not "taking a bath" When you sell a product more for more then simply retiring the brand. In fact, you gain a profit if you now do not have to handle the termination of all the employees.... <br> <br>This is something, instead of nothing. I call it a win.<br> <br>True, they would of been able to sell it for far more if they had not completely devalued the brand, but they have no right to complain on that fault.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Correct me if I am wrong : In all of my financial learning , it is not " taking a bath " When you sell a product more for more then simply retiring the brand .
In fact , you gain a profit if you now do not have to handle the termination of all the employees.... This is something , instead of nothing .
I call it a win .
True , they would of been able to sell it for far more if they had not completely devalued the brand , but they have no right to complain on that fault.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Correct me if I am wrong: In all of my financial learning, it is not "taking a bath" When you sell a product more for more then simply retiring the brand.
In fact, you gain a profit if you now do not have to handle the termination of all the employees....  This is something, instead of nothing.
I call it a win.
True, they would of been able to sell it for far more if they had not completely devalued the brand, but they have no right to complain on that fault.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915982</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1264601220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Lexus and Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s, but cleaned up their acts to get them to where they are today.</p></div><p>Which is to say, still awful. Lexus may have improved slightly. Audi, however, is just a rebadged VW, with maybe some different body work. You might as well buy a Skoda.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lexus and Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s , but cleaned up their acts to get them to where they are today.Which is to say , still awful .
Lexus may have improved slightly .
Audi , however , is just a rebadged VW , with maybe some different body work .
You might as well buy a Skoda .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lexus and Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s, but cleaned up their acts to get them to where they are today.Which is to say, still awful.
Lexus may have improved slightly.
Audi, however, is just a rebadged VW, with maybe some different body work.
You might as well buy a Skoda.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914928</id>
	<title>Re:A real geeky car is a GTO.</title>
	<author>daver00</author>
	<datestamp>1264589880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What makes a '70s car nerdy?</p></div></blockquote><p>The fact that for most of the components, you actually *can* tear them apart and repair them, you can pull a carb apart and work on it, I'd like to see you try that on a fuel injector. Most modern cars contain single use items that are press fit and sealed at the factory, never to be serviced because you simply *cannot*.</p><p>But thats just the beginning, the geekiest thing about a 70's car is it is usually very easy to shoehorn modern technology into them and even program that shit yourself! I have a 1970s Australian muscle car and I have very big dreams of fitting all the typical modern equipment into it, with software I can tune myself from a usb port I've installed somewhere myself. I've considered hiding a touchscreen somewhere like in the glove box, running some flavour of linux on cannibalised netbook hardware, or even an ARM dev board. I've even been considering writing my own engine management software and putting it on a suitably fast micro to run my injectors/ignition. I also want a discrete under-bonnet blower with an electric clutch so I literally have an on/off switch for my boost.</p><p>I have nothing but the absolute geekiest dreams about my 70's muscle car. Playing with some fragile, locked down engineering departments toy is not geeky, but creating your own toy certainly is. The 70's muscle car is the *parfect* clean slate to do this.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes a '70s car nerdy ? The fact that for most of the components , you actually * can * tear them apart and repair them , you can pull a carb apart and work on it , I 'd like to see you try that on a fuel injector .
Most modern cars contain single use items that are press fit and sealed at the factory , never to be serviced because you simply * can not * .But thats just the beginning , the geekiest thing about a 70 's car is it is usually very easy to shoehorn modern technology into them and even program that shit yourself !
I have a 1970s Australian muscle car and I have very big dreams of fitting all the typical modern equipment into it , with software I can tune myself from a usb port I 've installed somewhere myself .
I 've considered hiding a touchscreen somewhere like in the glove box , running some flavour of linux on cannibalised netbook hardware , or even an ARM dev board .
I 've even been considering writing my own engine management software and putting it on a suitably fast micro to run my injectors/ignition .
I also want a discrete under-bonnet blower with an electric clutch so I literally have an on/off switch for my boost.I have nothing but the absolute geekiest dreams about my 70 's muscle car .
Playing with some fragile , locked down engineering departments toy is not geeky , but creating your own toy certainly is .
The 70 's muscle car is the * parfect * clean slate to do this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes a '70s car nerdy?The fact that for most of the components, you actually *can* tear them apart and repair them, you can pull a carb apart and work on it, I'd like to see you try that on a fuel injector.
Most modern cars contain single use items that are press fit and sealed at the factory, never to be serviced because you simply *cannot*.But thats just the beginning, the geekiest thing about a 70's car is it is usually very easy to shoehorn modern technology into them and even program that shit yourself!
I have a 1970s Australian muscle car and I have very big dreams of fitting all the typical modern equipment into it, with software I can tune myself from a usb port I've installed somewhere myself.
I've considered hiding a touchscreen somewhere like in the glove box, running some flavour of linux on cannibalised netbook hardware, or even an ARM dev board.
I've even been considering writing my own engine management software and putting it on a suitably fast micro to run my injectors/ignition.
I also want a discrete under-bonnet blower with an electric clutch so I literally have an on/off switch for my boost.I have nothing but the absolute geekiest dreams about my 70's muscle car.
Playing with some fragile, locked down engineering departments toy is not geeky, but creating your own toy certainly is.
The 70's muscle car is the *parfect* clean slate to do this.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913676</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874</id>
	<title>How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264519140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This isn't nerdy at all...  Have Slashdotters turned into bankers?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't nerdy at all... Have Slashdotters turned into bankers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't nerdy at all...  Have Slashdotters turned into bankers?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914904</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>technohead</author>
	<datestamp>1264589580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Classic Saab's are the ultimate nerd car, they were designed by vikings and hand built by trolls!</p><p>*** FULL DISCLOSURE ***  I'm a computer programmer who drives a 20 year hold Saab 900 T16 Turbo convertible<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Classic Saab 's are the ultimate nerd car , they were designed by vikings and hand built by trolls !
* * * FULL DISCLOSURE * * * I 'm a computer programmer who drives a 20 year hold Saab 900 T16 Turbo convertible ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Classic Saab's are the ultimate nerd car, they were designed by vikings and hand built by trolls!
*** FULL DISCLOSURE ***  I'm a computer programmer who drives a 20 year hold Saab 900 T16 Turbo convertible ;-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914368</id>
	<title>Re:GM Isn't taking a bath, I am.</title>
	<author>IntlHarvester</author>
	<datestamp>1264623180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They didn't even bother to SELL their 3rd most profitable brand, they just terminated it.</p></div><p>Pontiac was their third best <i>selling</i> US brand, but if you look at the figures, that was mostly on the back of rental fleet sales.</p><p>If you know Pontiac's actual profitability, you are ahead of 99.9\% of people who don't work for GM accounting. Frankly most of their lineup has been junk for years and its totally believable the brand was structurally unprofitable and  a total write-off.</p><p>(I'm aware Pontiac has had some exceptional reviews recently, but the general consensus was they were selling cars like the G8 and Solstice at a loss in order to try to bring back some 'excitement' to the brand.;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They did n't even bother to SELL their 3rd most profitable brand , they just terminated it.Pontiac was their third best selling US brand , but if you look at the figures , that was mostly on the back of rental fleet sales.If you know Pontiac 's actual profitability , you are ahead of 99.9 \ % of people who do n't work for GM accounting .
Frankly most of their lineup has been junk for years and its totally believable the brand was structurally unprofitable and a total write-off .
( I 'm aware Pontiac has had some exceptional reviews recently , but the general consensus was they were selling cars like the G8 and Solstice at a loss in order to try to bring back some 'excitement ' to the brand .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They didn't even bother to SELL their 3rd most profitable brand, they just terminated it.Pontiac was their third best selling US brand, but if you look at the figures, that was mostly on the back of rental fleet sales.If you know Pontiac's actual profitability, you are ahead of 99.9\% of people who don't work for GM accounting.
Frankly most of their lineup has been junk for years and its totally believable the brand was structurally unprofitable and  a total write-off.
(I'm aware Pontiac has had some exceptional reviews recently, but the general consensus was they were selling cars like the G8 and Solstice at a loss in order to try to bring back some 'excitement' to the brand.
;)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913630</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913140</id>
	<title>Re:A bath?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264522080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you sell something for less than you buy it for, its a bath.  They lost large amounts of money on buying Saab.  This may be a better choice than stopping production entirely, but that doesn't mean it isn't a major fuckup overall.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you sell something for less than you buy it for , its a bath .
They lost large amounts of money on buying Saab .
This may be a better choice than stopping production entirely , but that does n't mean it is n't a major fuckup overall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you sell something for less than you buy it for, its a bath.
They lost large amounts of money on buying Saab.
This may be a better choice than stopping production entirely, but that doesn't mean it isn't a major fuckup overall.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912898</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916864</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264605840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RWD on a 9-3?</p><p>You tool. You don't know anything about Saabs and you don't deserve to own one.</p><p>Bump up HP{ and torque?<br>You tool. You don't know anything about Saabs. Your 'input' largely explains the thinking within GM that turned Saab into generic eurotrash</p><p>Ugh I didn't think it could get any worse, but if this is the driection Spyker takes Saab, it will further extend the pathetic long-lived death of a once great, innovative, and independent auto-manufacturer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RWD on a 9-3 ? You tool .
You do n't know anything about Saabs and you do n't deserve to own one.Bump up HP { and torque ? You tool .
You do n't know anything about Saabs .
Your 'input ' largely explains the thinking within GM that turned Saab into generic eurotrashUgh I did n't think it could get any worse , but if this is the driection Spyker takes Saab , it will further extend the pathetic long-lived death of a once great , innovative , and independent auto-manufacturer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RWD on a 9-3?You tool.
You don't know anything about Saabs and you don't deserve to own one.Bump up HP{ and torque?You tool.
You don't know anything about Saabs.
Your 'input' largely explains the thinking within GM that turned Saab into generic eurotrashUgh I didn't think it could get any worse, but if this is the driection Spyker takes Saab, it will further extend the pathetic long-lived death of a once great, innovative, and independent auto-manufacturer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915354</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>rundgren</author>
	<datestamp>1264595820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fact: Mercedes and BMW still use only rear or four wheel drive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fact : Mercedes and BMW still use only rear or four wheel drive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fact: Mercedes and BMW still use only rear or four wheel drive.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913430</id>
	<title>A real geeky car is a GTO.</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1264525200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Screw the stupid Euro-fancy cars.  Saab is a second rate BMW wanna be.  If you want a geeky car, there's only one ultimate car, and that is an early 1970s American car, prior to all the stupid regulations.</p><p>a) used leaded fuel for knock reduction and maximum power.  Yeah its bad for the environment, but it did make for great engines.</p><p>b) used great, thick steel, nice and strong</p><p>c) gobs and gobs of horsepower, and plenty of torque. There is no replacement for displacement!</p><p>My 73 Olds Delta 88 would crush your little Saab!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Screw the stupid Euro-fancy cars .
Saab is a second rate BMW wan na be .
If you want a geeky car , there 's only one ultimate car , and that is an early 1970s American car , prior to all the stupid regulations.a ) used leaded fuel for knock reduction and maximum power .
Yeah its bad for the environment , but it did make for great engines.b ) used great , thick steel , nice and strongc ) gobs and gobs of horsepower , and plenty of torque .
There is no replacement for displacement ! My 73 Olds Delta 88 would crush your little Saab !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Screw the stupid Euro-fancy cars.
Saab is a second rate BMW wanna be.
If you want a geeky car, there's only one ultimate car, and that is an early 1970s American car, prior to all the stupid regulations.a) used leaded fuel for knock reduction and maximum power.
Yeah its bad for the environment, but it did make for great engines.b) used great, thick steel, nice and strongc) gobs and gobs of horsepower, and plenty of torque.
There is no replacement for displacement!My 73 Olds Delta 88 would crush your little Saab!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914344</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1264622940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's just a car analogy, that's all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's just a car analogy , that 's all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's just a car analogy, that's all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913354</id>
	<title>Re:Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1264524180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, most of the players in the automotive industry haven't made any money in quite a long time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , most of the players in the automotive industry have n't made any money in quite a long time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, most of the players in the automotive industry haven't made any money in quite a long time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913190</id>
	<title>I am confused</title>
	<author>Midnight Thunder</author>
	<datestamp>1264522500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So how does this work in car analogies? Do I have to find a computer analogy instead?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... does not compute.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So how does this work in car analogies ?
Do I have to find a computer analogy instead ?
... does not compute .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So how does this work in car analogies?
Do I have to find a computer analogy instead?
... does not compute.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919150</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All I know is that when I wanted a 4-seater convertible a few years ago, I test drove a bunch (mid-90s-early 2000s models). The Sebrings are junk, wife didn't want the Mustang, the Volvo was crap also (turns out that the convertibles are sent over from Sweden to be "customized" in the UK - that explained that problem). So SAAB or BMW were the choices, since Audi had stopped making verts for a while &amp; they were too new/expensive when I was looking. I'm no boy racer, but the SAAB verts felt like the rear wheels were attached but a universal joint, I instantly knew what "cowl shake" was. The BMW convertible has a much much more rigid chassis, so it feels right. It's a great car; everyone I know that has a GM SAAB hates it. They have a long way to go to recover their good name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All I know is that when I wanted a 4-seater convertible a few years ago , I test drove a bunch ( mid-90s-early 2000s models ) .
The Sebrings are junk , wife did n't want the Mustang , the Volvo was crap also ( turns out that the convertibles are sent over from Sweden to be " customized " in the UK - that explained that problem ) .
So SAAB or BMW were the choices , since Audi had stopped making verts for a while &amp; they were too new/expensive when I was looking .
I 'm no boy racer , but the SAAB verts felt like the rear wheels were attached but a universal joint , I instantly knew what " cowl shake " was .
The BMW convertible has a much much more rigid chassis , so it feels right .
It 's a great car ; everyone I know that has a GM SAAB hates it .
They have a long way to go to recover their good name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All I know is that when I wanted a 4-seater convertible a few years ago, I test drove a bunch (mid-90s-early 2000s models).
The Sebrings are junk, wife didn't want the Mustang, the Volvo was crap also (turns out that the convertibles are sent over from Sweden to be "customized" in the UK - that explained that problem).
So SAAB or BMW were the choices, since Audi had stopped making verts for a while &amp; they were too new/expensive when I was looking.
I'm no boy racer, but the SAAB verts felt like the rear wheels were attached but a universal joint, I instantly knew what "cowl shake" was.
The BMW convertible has a much much more rigid chassis, so it feels right.
It's a great car; everyone I know that has a GM SAAB hates it.
They have a long way to go to recover their good name.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914148</id>
	<title>Re:Time for GM to dump all European brands</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264533420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If European brands are so terrible, why did GM go through hell and high-water to hang on to Opel?</p><p>The truth is that a good chunk of GM's engineering is done in Europe; their modern american cars use the same platforms and engines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If European brands are so terrible , why did GM go through hell and high-water to hang on to Opel ? The truth is that a good chunk of GM 's engineering is done in Europe ; their modern american cars use the same platforms and engines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If European brands are so terrible, why did GM go through hell and high-water to hang on to Opel?The truth is that a good chunk of GM's engineering is done in Europe; their modern american cars use the same platforms and engines.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914310</id>
	<title>Re:Saab</title>
	<author>IntlHarvester</author>
	<datestamp>1264535940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Go ahead.  Tell me what so special about it.  Something more than the superficial key hole in the middle aisle and the like.</p></div><p>Rather than explaining it to you, I'll just point out that you seem qualified for a marketing job at GM.</p><p>"Oldsmobile? They're just like Chevys, except with a superficial split grille. (10 years later) Holy crap! What happened to Oldsmobile sales?!?! We gotta shut it down!"</p><p>Cars, being the most expensive mass-produced purchase that people make, create a lot of emotional values among their customer base. You can't just boil them down to a rationalized list of superficial features, because customers will figure out you're just going through the motions and move to a brand that appears to have 'faith' in some greater ideals.</p><p>GM never understood the appeal of Saab, so they kept them in suspended animation circa mid-1980s, continually recycling the same gimmicks. Compare them to a Volvo or Audi, which have advanced considerably since that era (and the sticker prices prove it).</p><p>There's really only one company in the world that would have attempted to pass off a Blazer SUV with a floor-mounted key as a European sport-luxury car. Unfortunately that was the company that bought Saab.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Go ahead .
Tell me what so special about it .
Something more than the superficial key hole in the middle aisle and the like.Rather than explaining it to you , I 'll just point out that you seem qualified for a marketing job at GM. " Oldsmobile ?
They 're just like Chevys , except with a superficial split grille .
( 10 years later ) Holy crap !
What happened to Oldsmobile sales ? ! ? !
We got ta shut it down !
" Cars , being the most expensive mass-produced purchase that people make , create a lot of emotional values among their customer base .
You ca n't just boil them down to a rationalized list of superficial features , because customers will figure out you 're just going through the motions and move to a brand that appears to have 'faith ' in some greater ideals.GM never understood the appeal of Saab , so they kept them in suspended animation circa mid-1980s , continually recycling the same gimmicks .
Compare them to a Volvo or Audi , which have advanced considerably since that era ( and the sticker prices prove it ) .There 's really only one company in the world that would have attempted to pass off a Blazer SUV with a floor-mounted key as a European sport-luxury car .
Unfortunately that was the company that bought Saab .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go ahead.
Tell me what so special about it.
Something more than the superficial key hole in the middle aisle and the like.Rather than explaining it to you, I'll just point out that you seem qualified for a marketing job at GM."Oldsmobile?
They're just like Chevys, except with a superficial split grille.
(10 years later) Holy crap!
What happened to Oldsmobile sales?!?!
We gotta shut it down!
"Cars, being the most expensive mass-produced purchase that people make, create a lot of emotional values among their customer base.
You can't just boil them down to a rationalized list of superficial features, because customers will figure out you're just going through the motions and move to a brand that appears to have 'faith' in some greater ideals.GM never understood the appeal of Saab, so they kept them in suspended animation circa mid-1980s, continually recycling the same gimmicks.
Compare them to a Volvo or Audi, which have advanced considerably since that era (and the sticker prices prove it).There's really only one company in the world that would have attempted to pass off a Blazer SUV with a floor-mounted key as a European sport-luxury car.
Unfortunately that was the company that bought Saab.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913074</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913466</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264525740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My dad was a huge Saab fan. If they returned to their pre-GM roots, he'd buy another.</p><p>Because they're luxury? No. Because they were solid cars, good for wintery conditions, and fit tall people quite well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My dad was a huge Saab fan .
If they returned to their pre-GM roots , he 'd buy another.Because they 're luxury ?
No. Because they were solid cars , good for wintery conditions , and fit tall people quite well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My dad was a huge Saab fan.
If they returned to their pre-GM roots, he'd buy another.Because they're luxury?
No. Because they were solid cars, good for wintery conditions, and fit tall people quite well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913696</id>
	<title>Best part of this story</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264528260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Joy-in-trollhatten<br>Joy-in-the-troll-hat</p><p>Happy trolling everyone<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Joy-in-trollhattenJoy-in-the-troll-hatHappy trolling everyone : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Joy-in-trollhattenJoy-in-the-troll-hatHappy trolling everyone :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</id>
	<title>Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264519980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Spyker has 130-odd employees and builds around 40 cars a year.<br>Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.<br>Neither of them make money.</p><p>- Who is kidding who with this particularly peculiar "takeover"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Spyker has 130-odd employees and builds around 40 cars a year.Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.Neither of them make money.- Who is kidding who with this particularly peculiar " takeover " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spyker has 130-odd employees and builds around 40 cars a year.Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.Neither of them make money.- Who is kidding who with this particularly peculiar "takeover"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913596</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>S.O.B.</author>
	<datestamp>1264527120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>Just stick around for a while. Somebody will come up with a good car analogy to explain all of this to you.</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>I'm waiting for someone to make a computer analogy to explain why selling Saab to Spyker is a bad idea.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just stick around for a while .
Somebody will come up with a good car analogy to explain all of this to you .
I 'm waiting for someone to make a computer analogy to explain why selling Saab to Spyker is a bad idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Just stick around for a while.
Somebody will come up with a good car analogy to explain all of this to you.
I'm waiting for someone to make a computer analogy to explain why selling Saab to Spyker is a bad idea.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913232</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>starbugs</author>
	<datestamp>1264522920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a 'nerdy' car.</p><p>The new owner of Saab gets shot 7 times, then has the guts to buy one of the most under-performing brands in automotive history.</p><p>A Klingon coming to earth would buy a Saab.</p><p>And if you say anything bad about Saab, he would make you wish you were Ferengi looking at Saabs' last quarterly statement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a 'nerdy ' car.The new owner of Saab gets shot 7 times , then has the guts to buy one of the most under-performing brands in automotive history.A Klingon coming to earth would buy a Saab.And if you say anything bad about Saab , he would make you wish you were Ferengi looking at Saabs ' last quarterly statement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a 'nerdy' car.The new owner of Saab gets shot 7 times, then has the guts to buy one of the most under-performing brands in automotive history.A Klingon coming to earth would buy a Saab.And if you say anything bad about Saab, he would make you wish you were Ferengi looking at Saabs' last quarterly statement.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919884</id>
	<title>Re:Saab</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1264617420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Revisionist history much?</p><p>GM acquired only half of SAAB...in late 1989. There's no way that GM is responsible for "holding them in suspended animation circa mid-1980s".</p><p>FURTHER, SAAB was losing shedloads of money starting in 1987, which was a full 2 and 1/2 years before GM bought in. Additionally, the OTHER half of SAAB was owned by by a Swedish investment group.</p><p>All of this revisionist history that pins the blame on GM really grinds my gears, so to speak, because it completely ignores the terrible woes that SAAB had before GM came onto the scene. It also completely ignores the terrible mismanagement by the other 50\% owner.</p><p>All of this information is available from the official SAAB histories. Go look it up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Revisionist history much ? GM acquired only half of SAAB...in late 1989 .
There 's no way that GM is responsible for " holding them in suspended animation circa mid-1980s " .FURTHER , SAAB was losing shedloads of money starting in 1987 , which was a full 2 and 1/2 years before GM bought in .
Additionally , the OTHER half of SAAB was owned by by a Swedish investment group.All of this revisionist history that pins the blame on GM really grinds my gears , so to speak , because it completely ignores the terrible woes that SAAB had before GM came onto the scene .
It also completely ignores the terrible mismanagement by the other 50 \ % owner.All of this information is available from the official SAAB histories .
Go look it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Revisionist history much?GM acquired only half of SAAB...in late 1989.
There's no way that GM is responsible for "holding them in suspended animation circa mid-1980s".FURTHER, SAAB was losing shedloads of money starting in 1987, which was a full 2 and 1/2 years before GM bought in.
Additionally, the OTHER half of SAAB was owned by by a Swedish investment group.All of this revisionist history that pins the blame on GM really grinds my gears, so to speak, because it completely ignores the terrible woes that SAAB had before GM came onto the scene.
It also completely ignores the terrible mismanagement by the other 50\% owner.All of this information is available from the official SAAB histories.
Go look it up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914310</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919682</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1264616700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm confused. How is SAABs terrible financials GMs fault when SAAB was losing money before GM bought them?</p><p>tl;dr: SAAB was a moneypit before GM bought into them in 1989.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm confused .
How is SAABs terrible financials GMs fault when SAAB was losing money before GM bought them ? tl ; dr : SAAB was a moneypit before GM bought into them in 1989 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm confused.
How is SAABs terrible financials GMs fault when SAAB was losing money before GM bought them?tl;dr: SAAB was a moneypit before GM bought into them in 1989.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913222</id>
	<title>SAAB are long dead</title>
	<author>GrahamCox</author>
	<datestamp>1264522800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a SAAB 900NG (post-GM). It's basically a Vauxhall Vectra with a SAAB look-a-like bodyshell and a large number of strange design faults compared with the Vectra. It's really expensive to get parts for it here in Australia despite sharing many of them with some Holden models. Apart from having a very large boot it doesn't really have a lot going for it. Its handling and performance aren't really up to much - I've experience far better in much cheaper cars. Frankly in hindsight I wish I hadn't bought it. While apparently the design improved with the 9-3 and beyond, sales have tanked. Why bother when the real SAAB died at the end of the 80s with the original 900 and almost any other car in its class is cheaper to run.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a SAAB 900NG ( post-GM ) .
It 's basically a Vauxhall Vectra with a SAAB look-a-like bodyshell and a large number of strange design faults compared with the Vectra .
It 's really expensive to get parts for it here in Australia despite sharing many of them with some Holden models .
Apart from having a very large boot it does n't really have a lot going for it .
Its handling and performance are n't really up to much - I 've experience far better in much cheaper cars .
Frankly in hindsight I wish I had n't bought it .
While apparently the design improved with the 9-3 and beyond , sales have tanked .
Why bother when the real SAAB died at the end of the 80s with the original 900 and almost any other car in its class is cheaper to run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a SAAB 900NG (post-GM).
It's basically a Vauxhall Vectra with a SAAB look-a-like bodyshell and a large number of strange design faults compared with the Vectra.
It's really expensive to get parts for it here in Australia despite sharing many of them with some Holden models.
Apart from having a very large boot it doesn't really have a lot going for it.
Its handling and performance aren't really up to much - I've experience far better in much cheaper cars.
Frankly in hindsight I wish I hadn't bought it.
While apparently the design improved with the 9-3 and beyond, sales have tanked.
Why bother when the real SAAB died at the end of the 80s with the original 900 and almost any other car in its class is cheaper to run.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913386</id>
	<title>GM Spyker SAAB</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264524600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, let's see how many readers get that pun...</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , let 's see how many readers get that pun.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, let's see how many readers get that pun...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913766</id>
	<title>Re:Saab</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1264528980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>w8, takeover from US company results in cars becoming Euro junk?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>w8 , takeover from US company results in cars becoming Euro junk ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>w8, takeover from US company results in cars becoming Euro junk?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913074</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264522260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is, there is no place in the luxury market for Saab. When people want a luxury car, they think Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus, etc. They have long since forgotten about Saab, Cadillac or Lincoln. Brands that don't evolve will die off. Saab needs to be taken off life support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is , there is no place in the luxury market for Saab .
When people want a luxury car , they think Mercedes , BMW , Audi , Lexus , etc .
They have long since forgotten about Saab , Cadillac or Lincoln .
Brands that do n't evolve will die off .
Saab needs to be taken off life support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is, there is no place in the luxury market for Saab.
When people want a luxury car, they think Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus, etc.
They have long since forgotten about Saab, Cadillac or Lincoln.
Brands that don't evolve will die off.
Saab needs to be taken off life support.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914060</id>
	<title>Re:Time for GM to dump all European brands</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264532400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thats really the fault of GM. They were profitable when GM bought them. GM has introduced an insane amount of restrictions and bad design choices that they forced the european brands to use. SAAB employees has been complaining about this for many years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats really the fault of GM .
They were profitable when GM bought them .
GM has introduced an insane amount of restrictions and bad design choices that they forced the european brands to use .
SAAB employees has been complaining about this for many years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats really the fault of GM.
They were profitable when GM bought them.
GM has introduced an insane amount of restrictions and bad design choices that they forced the european brands to use.
SAAB employees has been complaining about this for many years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914688</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>vlokje</author>
	<datestamp>1264586100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember my dad owning a 900 in the 80s and quite liked the car. It was the apple among cars, the car for 'the different ones'. This image was of course destroyed by GM marketroids.

Rebuilding the original brand image is going to be very though. Try too hard and it will not look sincere. Or keep things as they are and go bust. This requires a combination of innovative technology and careful brand positioning. And perhaps a little Jobsian magic. (cant believe I wrote that as a linux junkie)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember my dad owning a 900 in the 80s and quite liked the car .
It was the apple among cars , the car for 'the different ones' .
This image was of course destroyed by GM marketroids .
Rebuilding the original brand image is going to be very though .
Try too hard and it will not look sincere .
Or keep things as they are and go bust .
This requires a combination of innovative technology and careful brand positioning .
And perhaps a little Jobsian magic .
( cant believe I wrote that as a linux junkie )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember my dad owning a 900 in the 80s and quite liked the car.
It was the apple among cars, the car for 'the different ones'.
This image was of course destroyed by GM marketroids.
Rebuilding the original brand image is going to be very though.
Try too hard and it will not look sincere.
Or keep things as they are and go bust.
This requires a combination of innovative technology and careful brand positioning.
And perhaps a little Jobsian magic.
(cant believe I wrote that as a linux junkie)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914464</id>
	<title>Re:Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste</title>
	<author>mwvdlee</author>
	<datestamp>1264624740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Spyker builds 40 crappy cars a year but manages to stay alive due to verv good marketing.<br>Saab builds 100,000 good cars a year but nearly died because GM destroyed the brand.<br>Combining them can go two very different ways.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Spyker builds 40 crappy cars a year but manages to stay alive due to verv good marketing.Saab builds 100,000 good cars a year but nearly died because GM destroyed the brand.Combining them can go two very different ways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spyker builds 40 crappy cars a year but manages to stay alive due to verv good marketing.Saab builds 100,000 good cars a year but nearly died because GM destroyed the brand.Combining them can go two very different ways.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914856</id>
	<title>Not many people know this.</title>
	<author>JerryQ</author>
	<datestamp>1264588620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If Benny from ABBA had been called Sven, then ABBA would have been called SAAB.

Jerry</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Benny from ABBA had been called Sven , then ABBA would have been called SAAB .
Jerry</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Benny from ABBA had been called Sven, then ABBA would have been called SAAB.
Jerry</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914632</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>soundguy</author>
	<datestamp>1264584900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Front wheel drive makes far more sense if you live anywhere where it might possibly ever snow, </p></div><p>The position of the drive wheels is irrelevant. What makes the difference is having the engine on top of the drive wheels. The VW bug and Chevrolet Corvair were excellent snow cars, as was the Olds Tornado/Cadillac Eldorado. All enjoyed the engine-over-drivewheels advantage and they all existed decades before front-wheel-drive became the default configuration for most cars.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Front wheel drive makes far more sense if you live anywhere where it might possibly ever snow , The position of the drive wheels is irrelevant .
What makes the difference is having the engine on top of the drive wheels .
The VW bug and Chevrolet Corvair were excellent snow cars , as was the Olds Tornado/Cadillac Eldorado .
All enjoyed the engine-over-drivewheels advantage and they all existed decades before front-wheel-drive became the default configuration for most cars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Front wheel drive makes far more sense if you live anywhere where it might possibly ever snow, The position of the drive wheels is irrelevant.
What makes the difference is having the engine on top of the drive wheels.
The VW bug and Chevrolet Corvair were excellent snow cars, as was the Olds Tornado/Cadillac Eldorado.
All enjoyed the engine-over-drivewheels advantage and they all existed decades before front-wheel-drive became the default configuration for most cars.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913018</id>
	<title>How about a (-2) hate-speech mod.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264520520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about a (-2) 'hate speech' mod.</p><p>Offtopic,Troll or Flamebait is just not enough.<br>Then I can read slashdot at a -1 threshold without having to read this crap.<br>(some Offtopic -1 post are still interesting)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about a ( -2 ) 'hate speech ' mod.Offtopic,Troll or Flamebait is just not enough.Then I can read slashdot at a -1 threshold without having to read this crap .
( some Offtopic -1 post are still interesting )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about a (-2) 'hate speech' mod.Offtopic,Troll or Flamebait is just not enough.Then I can read slashdot at a -1 threshold without having to read this crap.
(some Offtopic -1 post are still interesting)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912862</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264519980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nerds buy geeky cars. Saab is a geeky car. At one point they had sodium inside the valves for cooling.  They had standard turbochargers whey you couldn't get turbocharges. They had heated seats and a rear  windshield  wiper, again not normal for the time.  And I have a Saab.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nerds buy geeky cars .
Saab is a geeky car .
At one point they had sodium inside the valves for cooling .
They had standard turbochargers whey you could n't get turbocharges .
They had heated seats and a rear windshield wiper , again not normal for the time .
And I have a Saab.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nerds buy geeky cars.
Saab is a geeky car.
At one point they had sodium inside the valves for cooling.
They had standard turbochargers whey you couldn't get turbocharges.
They had heated seats and a rear  windshield  wiper, again not normal for the time.
And I have a Saab.....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913512</id>
	<title>Who has best "worker/car output" ratio?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264526460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Spiker's is horrible, 3 employees needed per car each year. Saab's is better, about 2.5 cars per employee. But that's still pretty crappy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Spiker 's is horrible , 3 employees needed per car each year .
Saab 's is better , about 2.5 cars per employee .
But that 's still pretty crappy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spiker's is horrible, 3 employees needed per car each year.
Saab's is better, about 2.5 cars per employee.
But that's still pretty crappy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912930</id>
	<title>Spyker Spyker Spyker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264519620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aha! Spyker!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Aha !
Spyker !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aha!
Spyker!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913068</id>
	<title>The main details are missing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264521180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From <a href="http://autos.aol.com/article/saab-sale-to-spyker" title="aol.com" rel="nofollow">a better source</a> [aol.com]:</p><p>"But three crucial issues remained (and still remain): Spyker must deliver the cash, the Swedish government must guarantee a loan, and Spyker Chairman Vladimir Antonov must leave the company."</p><p><a href="http://www.saabsunited.com/2009/12/swedish-press-trying-to-skewer-spyker.html" title="saabsunited.com" rel="nofollow">Many more details</a> [saabsunited.com]:</p><p>"The Antonovs were not allowed to start a branch of their Baltic bank Snoras in Britain.The British financial supervisory authority rejected the application, due to the Antonov's nasty reputation for being reluctant to cooperate with the authorities and their general uncommunicativeness.</p><p>It is still unclear why the oligark Vladimir Antonov was gunned down and seriously wounded in Moscow in March. But the Antonovs have operations in the harbour in Kaliningrad (former K&#246;nigsberg), which is notorious for being controlled by the Russian mafia. Kaliningrad is one of the main harbours for shipping guns and drugs to western Europe. In Russia, it is assumed that the attempted assassination is linked to a struggle for power over the operations in Kaliningrad.</p><p>No Russian journalists dare to comment on the Antonovs on camera, but off the record they claim that the family has links to shady arms deals.</p><p>The Antonovs own a bank in Panama, known as a tax haven. It is not unusual for wealthy Russians to use banks in tax havens for money laundry operations, according to TV4."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From a better source [ aol.com ] : " But three crucial issues remained ( and still remain ) : Spyker must deliver the cash , the Swedish government must guarantee a loan , and Spyker Chairman Vladimir Antonov must leave the company .
" Many more details [ saabsunited.com ] : " The Antonovs were not allowed to start a branch of their Baltic bank Snoras in Britain.The British financial supervisory authority rejected the application , due to the Antonov 's nasty reputation for being reluctant to cooperate with the authorities and their general uncommunicativeness.It is still unclear why the oligark Vladimir Antonov was gunned down and seriously wounded in Moscow in March .
But the Antonovs have operations in the harbour in Kaliningrad ( former K   nigsberg ) , which is notorious for being controlled by the Russian mafia .
Kaliningrad is one of the main harbours for shipping guns and drugs to western Europe .
In Russia , it is assumed that the attempted assassination is linked to a struggle for power over the operations in Kaliningrad.No Russian journalists dare to comment on the Antonovs on camera , but off the record they claim that the family has links to shady arms deals.The Antonovs own a bank in Panama , known as a tax haven .
It is not unusual for wealthy Russians to use banks in tax havens for money laundry operations , according to TV4 .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From a better source [aol.com]:"But three crucial issues remained (and still remain): Spyker must deliver the cash, the Swedish government must guarantee a loan, and Spyker Chairman Vladimir Antonov must leave the company.
"Many more details [saabsunited.com]:"The Antonovs were not allowed to start a branch of their Baltic bank Snoras in Britain.The British financial supervisory authority rejected the application, due to the Antonov's nasty reputation for being reluctant to cooperate with the authorities and their general uncommunicativeness.It is still unclear why the oligark Vladimir Antonov was gunned down and seriously wounded in Moscow in March.
But the Antonovs have operations in the harbour in Kaliningrad (former Königsberg), which is notorious for being controlled by the Russian mafia.
Kaliningrad is one of the main harbours for shipping guns and drugs to western Europe.
In Russia, it is assumed that the attempted assassination is linked to a struggle for power over the operations in Kaliningrad.No Russian journalists dare to comment on the Antonovs on camera, but off the record they claim that the family has links to shady arms deals.The Antonovs own a bank in Panama, known as a tax haven.
It is not unusual for wealthy Russians to use banks in tax havens for money laundry operations, according to TV4.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264522920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See, it's like if Saab were to be sold, and an exotic car manufacturer saw opportunity where GM pillaged and neglected the company for 20 years, and bought the company seeing that the "quirky" nature of the car is that the design makes sense, since the ergonomics are designed around performance-oriented driving and safety, which makes them different. How's that for an analogy?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>Seriously though I'm excited this deal went through. GM bean counters held Saab back and it is rumored they used Saab to cook their books, by "over billing" Saab for GM-manufactured engines, shifting profits and losses around for tax and stock price advantages.  It's disgusting that the Saab-designed engine's best configuration has not been allowed to go into the 9-3 and 9-5, but instead went into the Cobalt SS at 260hp (but the engine internals and turbocharger are good for &gt;300hp reliably with minor mods).  Also GM beancounters position it against BMW and Audi, and it would do well, except with power output (especially in the XWD models) and with GM's choice of interior coatings (the rubberized paint that peels all too easily) and the inflated MSRP (which no one ever pays for a Saab), why would anyone step into the showroom?</p><p>Here is what Spyker needs to do to turn Saab around:</p><p>1. Keep MSRPs where they are on the Turbo X, but fix Trionic 8 engine management and boost power output to compete with the 335i and 135i power output.<br>2. Go RWD and XWD in the new 9-3<br>3. Lower MSRP on the base "touring" and "comfort" sedans to what people actually pay for them (well under $30K) and institute "no haggle" pricing across the board<br>4. Improve the interior panel coatings (paint). Spend the extra few cents GM would not spend and get rid of GM's choice of prone-to-peeling coating.<br>5. Advertise the cars heavily. "Born from jets" needs to promote the ergonomics which are designed around the driver, safety, and better engine options GM bean counters would not allow need to be introduced to put some performance behind the implied promise "Born from jets" implies. Saabs are only "quirky" in that the ergonomics are unusual because they are more natural and centered around driving.<br>6. Shitcan the dealers with poor customer service.<br>7. Bring us Aero X!</p><p>I love my 9-3. I hated Saabs until last year when I had to drive a friend's (he insisted). I fell in love with it immediately and ended up buying one.  Sure, the power output may be somewhat (read: a lot) lower than I'd like but the car is a blast to drive, and it performs a heck of a lot better in the real world than the numbers would imply, However, numbers sell cars, so they really need to bump up the HP and Torque output.</p><p>Spyker can do it. I hope they turn Saab around just like BMW turned around when BMW was about to tank.</p><p>I'll definitely be buying the new 9-3 if/when it comes out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See , it 's like if Saab were to be sold , and an exotic car manufacturer saw opportunity where GM pillaged and neglected the company for 20 years , and bought the company seeing that the " quirky " nature of the car is that the design makes sense , since the ergonomics are designed around performance-oriented driving and safety , which makes them different .
How 's that for an analogy ?
; ) Seriously though I 'm excited this deal went through .
GM bean counters held Saab back and it is rumored they used Saab to cook their books , by " over billing " Saab for GM-manufactured engines , shifting profits and losses around for tax and stock price advantages .
It 's disgusting that the Saab-designed engine 's best configuration has not been allowed to go into the 9-3 and 9-5 , but instead went into the Cobalt SS at 260hp ( but the engine internals and turbocharger are good for &gt; 300hp reliably with minor mods ) .
Also GM beancounters position it against BMW and Audi , and it would do well , except with power output ( especially in the XWD models ) and with GM 's choice of interior coatings ( the rubberized paint that peels all too easily ) and the inflated MSRP ( which no one ever pays for a Saab ) , why would anyone step into the showroom ? Here is what Spyker needs to do to turn Saab around : 1 .
Keep MSRPs where they are on the Turbo X , but fix Trionic 8 engine management and boost power output to compete with the 335i and 135i power output.2 .
Go RWD and XWD in the new 9-33 .
Lower MSRP on the base " touring " and " comfort " sedans to what people actually pay for them ( well under $ 30K ) and institute " no haggle " pricing across the board4 .
Improve the interior panel coatings ( paint ) .
Spend the extra few cents GM would not spend and get rid of GM 's choice of prone-to-peeling coating.5 .
Advertise the cars heavily .
" Born from jets " needs to promote the ergonomics which are designed around the driver , safety , and better engine options GM bean counters would not allow need to be introduced to put some performance behind the implied promise " Born from jets " implies .
Saabs are only " quirky " in that the ergonomics are unusual because they are more natural and centered around driving.6 .
Shitcan the dealers with poor customer service.7 .
Bring us Aero X ! I love my 9-3 .
I hated Saabs until last year when I had to drive a friend 's ( he insisted ) .
I fell in love with it immediately and ended up buying one .
Sure , the power output may be somewhat ( read : a lot ) lower than I 'd like but the car is a blast to drive , and it performs a heck of a lot better in the real world than the numbers would imply , However , numbers sell cars , so they really need to bump up the HP and Torque output.Spyker can do it .
I hope they turn Saab around just like BMW turned around when BMW was about to tank.I 'll definitely be buying the new 9-3 if/when it comes out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See, it's like if Saab were to be sold, and an exotic car manufacturer saw opportunity where GM pillaged and neglected the company for 20 years, and bought the company seeing that the "quirky" nature of the car is that the design makes sense, since the ergonomics are designed around performance-oriented driving and safety, which makes them different.
How's that for an analogy?
;)Seriously though I'm excited this deal went through.
GM bean counters held Saab back and it is rumored they used Saab to cook their books, by "over billing" Saab for GM-manufactured engines, shifting profits and losses around for tax and stock price advantages.
It's disgusting that the Saab-designed engine's best configuration has not been allowed to go into the 9-3 and 9-5, but instead went into the Cobalt SS at 260hp (but the engine internals and turbocharger are good for &gt;300hp reliably with minor mods).
Also GM beancounters position it against BMW and Audi, and it would do well, except with power output (especially in the XWD models) and with GM's choice of interior coatings (the rubberized paint that peels all too easily) and the inflated MSRP (which no one ever pays for a Saab), why would anyone step into the showroom?Here is what Spyker needs to do to turn Saab around:1.
Keep MSRPs where they are on the Turbo X, but fix Trionic 8 engine management and boost power output to compete with the 335i and 135i power output.2.
Go RWD and XWD in the new 9-33.
Lower MSRP on the base "touring" and "comfort" sedans to what people actually pay for them (well under $30K) and institute "no haggle" pricing across the board4.
Improve the interior panel coatings (paint).
Spend the extra few cents GM would not spend and get rid of GM's choice of prone-to-peeling coating.5.
Advertise the cars heavily.
"Born from jets" needs to promote the ergonomics which are designed around the driver, safety, and better engine options GM bean counters would not allow need to be introduced to put some performance behind the implied promise "Born from jets" implies.
Saabs are only "quirky" in that the ergonomics are unusual because they are more natural and centered around driving.6.
Shitcan the dealers with poor customer service.7.
Bring us Aero X!I love my 9-3.
I hated Saabs until last year when I had to drive a friend's (he insisted).
I fell in love with it immediately and ended up buying one.
Sure, the power output may be somewhat (read: a lot) lower than I'd like but the car is a blast to drive, and it performs a heck of a lot better in the real world than the numbers would imply, However, numbers sell cars, so they really need to bump up the HP and Torque output.Spyker can do it.
I hope they turn Saab around just like BMW turned around when BMW was about to tank.I'll definitely be buying the new 9-3 if/when it comes out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913502</id>
	<title>It was the method of payment that concerned them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264526340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Convers Group wanted to pay the 74 million in cash in the form of $20s in paper bags.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Convers Group wanted to pay the 74 million in cash in the form of $ 20s in paper bags .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Convers Group wanted to pay the 74 million in cash in the form of $20s in paper bags.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916510</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>bkaul01</author>
	<datestamp>1264604160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>See, it's like if Saab were to be sold, and an exotic car manufacturer saw opportunity where GM pillaged and neglected the company for 20 years, and bought the company seeing that the "quirky" nature of the car is that the design makes sense, since the ergonomics are designed around performance-oriented driving and safety, which makes them different.</p></div><p>I believe that's the first time I've seen Saab and "performance-oriented driving" mentioned in the same sentence.  Saab makes ugly but safe and comfortable cars that will get you from A to B, but a renowned sports car manufacturer it is not.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>See , it 's like if Saab were to be sold , and an exotic car manufacturer saw opportunity where GM pillaged and neglected the company for 20 years , and bought the company seeing that the " quirky " nature of the car is that the design makes sense , since the ergonomics are designed around performance-oriented driving and safety , which makes them different.I believe that 's the first time I 've seen Saab and " performance-oriented driving " mentioned in the same sentence .
Saab makes ugly but safe and comfortable cars that will get you from A to B , but a renowned sports car manufacturer it is not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See, it's like if Saab were to be sold, and an exotic car manufacturer saw opportunity where GM pillaged and neglected the company for 20 years, and bought the company seeing that the "quirky" nature of the car is that the design makes sense, since the ergonomics are designed around performance-oriented driving and safety, which makes them different.I believe that's the first time I've seen Saab and "performance-oriented driving" mentioned in the same sentence.
Saab makes ugly but safe and comfortable cars that will get you from A to B, but a renowned sports car manufacturer it is not.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915384</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264596300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe that the BMW 2002 tii was the only other car at the time. These engines were tuned up and used in the Brabham that won the 1981 Formula One championship.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe that the BMW 2002 tii was the only other car at the time .
These engines were tuned up and used in the Brabham that won the 1981 Formula One championship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe that the BMW 2002 tii was the only other car at the time.
These engines were tuned up and used in the Brabham that won the 1981 Formula One championship.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914338</id>
	<title>Re:free SAAB?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264622760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Like calling it a loan makes it any better. If they made cars people wanted to buy, they wouldn't have needed a loan from the government.  Simple as that.
</p><p>
Bickering over whether it was a "loan" or a "bailout" is fucking retarded - it was obviously both.  If they hadn't received a loan from the government, they would have went out of business.  Sounds like a bailout to me.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like calling it a loan makes it any better .
If they made cars people wanted to buy , they would n't have needed a loan from the government .
Simple as that .
Bickering over whether it was a " loan " or a " bailout " is fucking retarded - it was obviously both .
If they had n't received a loan from the government , they would have went out of business .
Sounds like a bailout to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Like calling it a loan makes it any better.
If they made cars people wanted to buy, they wouldn't have needed a loan from the government.
Simple as that.
Bickering over whether it was a "loan" or a "bailout" is fucking retarded - it was obviously both.
If they hadn't received a loan from the government, they would have went out of business.
Sounds like a bailout to me.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913102</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1264524120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lexus and Audi were <i>awful</i> in the 80s and early 90s, but cleaned up their acts to get them to where they are today.</p><p>Mercedes has always done a good job with their super-high-end models, although their entry-level luxury sedans (ie. the C-Series) have always been mediocre at best.  They were also among the last to cave and admit that rear wheel drive cars don't make sense for the vast majority of the population (something that Saab were among the <i>first</i> to do).  Front wheel drive makes far more sense if you live anywhere where it might possibly ever snow, while Audi discovered that AWD offers the best of both worlds.</p><p>If nothing else, the automotive industry needs extra competitors in the marketplace, given that the number of brands has slowly been whittled away over the years with no serious new entrants into the mainstream industry in quite some time.  Saab have the manufacturing facilities, engineering talent, brand heritage, and penchant for unconventionality that could potentially make them a (minor) force to be reckoned with in the marketplace.  The notable outcry that resulted when GM announced it was killing the brand is proof enough that there is still plenty of interest alive in the company.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lexus and Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s , but cleaned up their acts to get them to where they are today.Mercedes has always done a good job with their super-high-end models , although their entry-level luxury sedans ( ie .
the C-Series ) have always been mediocre at best .
They were also among the last to cave and admit that rear wheel drive cars do n't make sense for the vast majority of the population ( something that Saab were among the first to do ) .
Front wheel drive makes far more sense if you live anywhere where it might possibly ever snow , while Audi discovered that AWD offers the best of both worlds.If nothing else , the automotive industry needs extra competitors in the marketplace , given that the number of brands has slowly been whittled away over the years with no serious new entrants into the mainstream industry in quite some time .
Saab have the manufacturing facilities , engineering talent , brand heritage , and penchant for unconventionality that could potentially make them a ( minor ) force to be reckoned with in the marketplace .
The notable outcry that resulted when GM announced it was killing the brand is proof enough that there is still plenty of interest alive in the company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lexus and Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s, but cleaned up their acts to get them to where they are today.Mercedes has always done a good job with their super-high-end models, although their entry-level luxury sedans (ie.
the C-Series) have always been mediocre at best.
They were also among the last to cave and admit that rear wheel drive cars don't make sense for the vast majority of the population (something that Saab were among the first to do).
Front wheel drive makes far more sense if you live anywhere where it might possibly ever snow, while Audi discovered that AWD offers the best of both worlds.If nothing else, the automotive industry needs extra competitors in the marketplace, given that the number of brands has slowly been whittled away over the years with no serious new entrants into the mainstream industry in quite some time.
Saab have the manufacturing facilities, engineering talent, brand heritage, and penchant for unconventionality that could potentially make them a (minor) force to be reckoned with in the marketplace.
The notable outcry that resulted when GM announced it was killing the brand is proof enough that there is still plenty of interest alive in the company.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913660</id>
	<title>Re:Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1264527840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kind of like what happens when you mix Swedish and Russian vodka<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kind of like what happens when you mix Swedish and Russian vodka : /</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kind of like what happens when you mix Swedish and Russian vodka :/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912920</id>
	<title>free SAAB?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264519560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since GM got 50.4 Billion dollars in bailouts from US taxpayers, why didn't we just each get a free SAAB?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since GM got 50.4 Billion dollars in bailouts from US taxpayers , why did n't we just each get a free SAAB ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since GM got 50.4 Billion dollars in bailouts from US taxpayers, why didn't we just each get a free SAAB?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914092</id>
	<title>Re:free SAAB?</title>
	<author>IntlHarvester</author>
	<datestamp>1264532760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It wasn't a bailout, it was a loan, which they are already paying back. Go back to your fox/cnn/nbc news network and leave the intelligent people alone.</p></div><p>For an intelligent person, your claims are factually incorrect. It was partially a loan, mostly a cash for equity deal in which the government essentially bought General Motors for ~$40B.</p><p>The government won't be paid back until new shares are sold to private investors.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was n't a bailout , it was a loan , which they are already paying back .
Go back to your fox/cnn/nbc news network and leave the intelligent people alone.For an intelligent person , your claims are factually incorrect .
It was partially a loan , mostly a cash for equity deal in which the government essentially bought General Motors for ~ $ 40B.The government wo n't be paid back until new shares are sold to private investors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wasn't a bailout, it was a loan, which they are already paying back.
Go back to your fox/cnn/nbc news network and leave the intelligent people alone.For an intelligent person, your claims are factually incorrect.
It was partially a loan, mostly a cash for equity deal in which the government essentially bought General Motors for ~$40B.The government won't be paid back until new shares are sold to private investors.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913102</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914046</id>
	<title>Re:The main details are missing</title>
	<author>tpwch</author>
	<datestamp>1264532280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The swedish goverment has guaranteed the loan already, it was announced in swedish media about 12 hours ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The swedish goverment has guaranteed the loan already , it was announced in swedish media about 12 hours ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The swedish goverment has guaranteed the loan already, it was announced in swedish media about 12 hours ago.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913068</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30918412</id>
	<title>Haldex XWD vs other AWD systems</title>
	<author>Weedhopper</author>
	<datestamp>1264611960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can someone knowledgeable about AWD systems break down the differences between XWD, previous Haldex AWD and other AWD (say, Subaru's) systems?  Most of us can look up the Wikipedia article for technical details, so actual performance in real life driving would be neat.</p><p>No need to go overboard into off road 4WD or competitive driving, thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can someone knowledgeable about AWD systems break down the differences between XWD , previous Haldex AWD and other AWD ( say , Subaru 's ) systems ?
Most of us can look up the Wikipedia article for technical details , so actual performance in real life driving would be neat.No need to go overboard into off road 4WD or competitive driving , thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can someone knowledgeable about AWD systems break down the differences between XWD, previous Haldex AWD and other AWD (say, Subaru's) systems?
Most of us can look up the Wikipedia article for technical details, so actual performance in real life driving would be neat.No need to go overboard into off road 4WD or competitive driving, thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914828</id>
	<title>Waste</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264588140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A horrid waste of money in my opinion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A horrid waste of money in my opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A horrid waste of money in my opinion.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917628</id>
	<title>Re:Time for GM to dump all European brands</title>
	<author>pmontra</author>
	<datestamp>1264609080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I add: and if they are so terrible how could <a href="http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2009/jun/10/business/sns-ap-chrysler-fiat-jun10" title="chicagotribune.com">FIAT buy Chrysler</a> [chicagotribune.com] with the backing of the Obama administration?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I add : and if they are so terrible how could FIAT buy Chrysler [ chicagotribune.com ] with the backing of the Obama administration ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I add: and if they are so terrible how could FIAT buy Chrysler [chicagotribune.com] with the backing of the Obama administration?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914148</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916302</id>
	<title>Re:How about a (-2) hate-speech mod.</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1264603140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>How about a (-2) 'hate speech' mod.</p></div></blockquote><p>It would get misused like all the others.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about a ( -2 ) 'hate speech ' mod.It would get misused like all the others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about a (-2) 'hate speech' mod.It would get misused like all the others.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914980</id>
	<title>PC or Mac</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264590960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Sweden during the 80's we used to say that those who owned a Volvo also used a PC (MS-DOS) and those who owned a SAAB also used a Mac.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Sweden during the 80 's we used to say that those who owned a Volvo also used a PC ( MS-DOS ) and those who owned a SAAB also used a Mac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Sweden during the 80's we used to say that those who owned a Volvo also used a PC (MS-DOS) and those who owned a SAAB also used a Mac.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30920342</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Black-Man</author>
	<datestamp>1264619340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought one of the "quirks" of saab's was the push button starter - which GM killed infuriating loyal saab owners and further pushing the brand into oblivian.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought one of the " quirks " of saab 's was the push button starter - which GM killed infuriating loyal saab owners and further pushing the brand into oblivian .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought one of the "quirks" of saab's was the push button starter - which GM killed infuriating loyal saab owners and further pushing the brand into oblivian.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917100</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1264606860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you will find GM had turbocharged cars before Saab. GM built them in the early sixties. Olds Turbo Jetfire  even had water injection. Chevy also produced a turbocharged version of the Corvair Monza. The current Saabs are not all that geek worthy anymore. They have too GMed. Not like the old 900 that really was funky.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you will find GM had turbocharged cars before Saab .
GM built them in the early sixties .
Olds Turbo Jetfire even had water injection .
Chevy also produced a turbocharged version of the Corvair Monza .
The current Saabs are not all that geek worthy anymore .
They have too GMed .
Not like the old 900 that really was funky .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you will find GM had turbocharged cars before Saab.
GM built them in the early sixties.
Olds Turbo Jetfire  even had water injection.
Chevy also produced a turbocharged version of the Corvair Monza.
The current Saabs are not all that geek worthy anymore.
They have too GMed.
Not like the old 900 that really was funky.
 </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914676</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Waccoon</author>
	<datestamp>1264585740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When people want a luxury car, they think Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus, etc.</p></div><p>Nothing ever changes.</p><p>Hyundai will someday make good and reliable cars?  HAH!!!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When people want a luxury car , they think Mercedes , BMW , Audi , Lexus , etc.Nothing ever changes.Hyundai will someday make good and reliable cars ?
HAH ! ! !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When people want a luxury car, they think Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus, etc.Nothing ever changes.Hyundai will someday make good and reliable cars?
HAH!!!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914320</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Nightspirit</author>
	<datestamp>1264622520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I owned an 85 audi quattro and I still consider it better than my current BMW 5 series so am I missing something (other than perhaps nostalgia)?. The only major problem with it was the display electronics and AC died in the late 90s, compared to my Taurus which the entire thing nearly disintegrated after 6 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I owned an 85 audi quattro and I still consider it better than my current BMW 5 series so am I missing something ( other than perhaps nostalgia ) ? .
The only major problem with it was the display electronics and AC died in the late 90s , compared to my Taurus which the entire thing nearly disintegrated after 6 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I owned an 85 audi quattro and I still consider it better than my current BMW 5 series so am I missing something (other than perhaps nostalgia)?.
The only major problem with it was the display electronics and AC died in the late 90s, compared to my Taurus which the entire thing nearly disintegrated after 6 years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914802</id>
	<title>Re:Time for GM to dump all European brands</title>
	<author>hufter</author>
	<datestamp>1264587780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They were on the brink of dumping Opel too, but then realized that Insignia is selling like hotcakes. That and the new Astra are possibly two most competent products Opel has ever had, with innovative design that can be adapted to American models too. Probably smart decision to old onto that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They were on the brink of dumping Opel too , but then realized that Insignia is selling like hotcakes .
That and the new Astra are possibly two most competent products Opel has ever had , with innovative design that can be adapted to American models too .
Probably smart decision to old onto that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They were on the brink of dumping Opel too, but then realized that Insignia is selling like hotcakes.
That and the new Astra are possibly two most competent products Opel has ever had, with innovative design that can be adapted to American models too.
Probably smart decision to old onto that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914148</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913252</id>
	<title>official car of russian mob?</title>
	<author>Ruvim</author>
	<datestamp>1264523160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With this "takeover", will Saab become an official car of Russian mob? and if so, will it become available in Moscow at Mob2 on FB?</htmltext>
<tokenext>With this " takeover " , will Saab become an official car of Russian mob ?
and if so , will it become available in Moscow at Mob2 on FB ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With this "takeover", will Saab become an official car of Russian mob?
and if so, will it become available in Moscow at Mob2 on FB?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916204</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>hcdejong</author>
	<datestamp>1264602600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Lexus and Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s, but cleaned up their acts to get them to where they are today.</p></div><p>Huh? The first Lexus was the LS400, the only criticism you can possibly have against that is that it was bland. It was one of the best-built cars of its time.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lexus and Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s , but cleaned up their acts to get them to where they are today.Huh ?
The first Lexus was the LS400 , the only criticism you can possibly have against that is that it was bland .
It was one of the best-built cars of its time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lexus and Audi were awful in the 80s and early 90s, but cleaned up their acts to get them to where they are today.Huh?
The first Lexus was the LS400, the only criticism you can possibly have against that is that it was bland.
It was one of the best-built cars of its time.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913514</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264526460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My '99 Saab 9-5 (prior to being bought by GM) was garbage.  Bought new.  The alternator went out at 60,000, and the direct ignition cassette shortly after.  At around 75,000 the shop found several large oil leaks and oil sludge in the engine.  Turns out it's a common problem in the 9-5, and there's a class action lawsuit about it.  I have an aerospace background like Saab once did, and if the 9-5 was an aircraft it'd definitely be a "hanger queen."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My '99 Saab 9-5 ( prior to being bought by GM ) was garbage .
Bought new .
The alternator went out at 60,000 , and the direct ignition cassette shortly after .
At around 75,000 the shop found several large oil leaks and oil sludge in the engine .
Turns out it 's a common problem in the 9-5 , and there 's a class action lawsuit about it .
I have an aerospace background like Saab once did , and if the 9-5 was an aircraft it 'd definitely be a " hanger queen .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My '99 Saab 9-5 (prior to being bought by GM) was garbage.
Bought new.
The alternator went out at 60,000, and the direct ignition cassette shortly after.
At around 75,000 the shop found several large oil leaks and oil sludge in the engine.
Turns out it's a common problem in the 9-5, and there's a class action lawsuit about it.
I have an aerospace background like Saab once did, and if the 9-5 was an aircraft it'd definitely be a "hanger queen.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915640</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>oliderid</author>
	<datestamp>1264598460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mercedes, BMW, Audi...Yes...but Lexus, here in Europe (well in my country anyway) they are still branded as BMW wannabes. Price...Design...Aren't enough. You need history, fans, design, sex appeal...I mean You need a soul.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mercedes , BMW , Audi...Yes...but Lexus , here in Europe ( well in my country anyway ) they are still branded as BMW wannabes .
Price...Design...Are n't enough .
You need history , fans , design , sex appeal...I mean You need a soul .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mercedes, BMW, Audi...Yes...but Lexus, here in Europe (well in my country anyway) they are still branded as BMW wannabes.
Price...Design...Aren't enough.
You need history, fans, design, sex appeal...I mean You need a soul.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>forkazoo</author>
	<datestamp>1264521360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This isn't nerdy at all... Have Slashdotters turned into bankers?</p></div></blockquote><p>Just stick around for a while.  Somebody will come up with a good car analogy to explain all of this to you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't nerdy at all... Have Slashdotters turned into bankers ? Just stick around for a while .
Somebody will come up with a good car analogy to explain all of this to you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't nerdy at all... Have Slashdotters turned into bankers?Just stick around for a while.
Somebody will come up with a good car analogy to explain all of this to you.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916970</id>
	<title>RTFA</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1264606380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not even the original submitter bothered...</p><p>Part of the reason this deal went through (when the previous one did not) is because one of the Spyker execs (Muller) effectively bought out his Russian partners - There is no longer any controlling Russian interest in Spyker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not even the original submitter bothered...Part of the reason this deal went through ( when the previous one did not ) is because one of the Spyker execs ( Muller ) effectively bought out his Russian partners - There is no longer any controlling Russian interest in Spyker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not even the original submitter bothered...Part of the reason this deal went through (when the previous one did not) is because one of the Spyker execs (Muller) effectively bought out his Russian partners - There is no longer any controlling Russian interest in Spyker.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913232</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913392</id>
	<title>Time for GM to dump all European brands</title>
	<author>ub3r n3u7r4l1st</author>
	<datestamp>1264524660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One down, many to go.</p><p>The only money making divisions are in the U.S. and China. All the brands in Europe are simply parasites that drain GM's money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One down , many to go.The only money making divisions are in the U.S. and China .
All the brands in Europe are simply parasites that drain GM 's money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One down, many to go.The only money making divisions are in the U.S. and China.
All the brands in Europe are simply parasites that drain GM's money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30918770</id>
	<title>Re:Marriages Made in Haste.. Oft Leave a Bad Taste</title>
	<author>turbotroll</author>
	<datestamp>1264613160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.</p></div><p>You are mistaken about the number of Saab employees by a whole order of magnitude.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.You are mistaken about the number of Saab employees by a whole order of magnitude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saab has 34,000 employees and builds around 100,000 cars a year.You are mistaken about the number of Saab employees by a whole order of magnitude.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913494</id>
	<title>Kill it with fire</title>
	<author>voodoowizard</author>
	<datestamp>1264526160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So now a crappy ugly car gets built buy a car company that make ugly fast cars....</htmltext>
<tokenext>So now a crappy ugly car gets built buy a car company that make ugly fast cars... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now a crappy ugly car gets built buy a car company that make ugly fast cars....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917550</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264608720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Because they were solid cars, good for wintery conditions, and fit tall people quite well</i> <br>
&nbsp; <br>At 6'3" I'm hard-pressed to find a car with sufficient leg room that isn't a friggin' tank. Heck, even a lot of SUVs don't provide sufficient leg-room because they're marketed to 5'8" soccer moms. Show me a performance car that I can comfortably fit it and I'll gladly pony up the cash.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they were solid cars , good for wintery conditions , and fit tall people quite well   At 6'3 " I 'm hard-pressed to find a car with sufficient leg room that is n't a friggin ' tank .
Heck , even a lot of SUVs do n't provide sufficient leg-room because they 're marketed to 5'8 " soccer moms .
Show me a performance car that I can comfortably fit it and I 'll gladly pony up the cash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they were solid cars, good for wintery conditions, and fit tall people quite well 
  At 6'3" I'm hard-pressed to find a car with sufficient leg room that isn't a friggin' tank.
Heck, even a lot of SUVs don't provide sufficient leg-room because they're marketed to 5'8" soccer moms.
Show me a performance car that I can comfortably fit it and I'll gladly pony up the cash.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913466</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916896</id>
	<title>Re:good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264605960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uhh, Lexus's first car was a 1989 model LS400.  It was a $40000 car that competed against (and beat) $60000 and up cars from established luxury automakers like Mercedes and BMW.   The automotive press raved about it and the public agreed.  While the Camry cloned ES250 did not earn the same admiration, it was far from an awful car.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhh , Lexus 's first car was a 1989 model LS400 .
It was a $ 40000 car that competed against ( and beat ) $ 60000 and up cars from established luxury automakers like Mercedes and BMW .
The automotive press raved about it and the public agreed .
While the Camry cloned ES250 did not earn the same admiration , it was far from an awful car .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhh, Lexus's first car was a 1989 model LS400.
It was a $40000 car that competed against (and beat) $60000 and up cars from established luxury automakers like Mercedes and BMW.
The automotive press raved about it and the public agreed.
While the Camry cloned ES250 did not earn the same admiration, it was far from an awful car.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917132</id>
	<title>Re:A real geeky car is a GTO.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264607040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Physics begs to differ.  In a 2-car accident, your crumple zones work for both you and the 73 Olds.</p><p>So if you're ever in a pile-up on the freeway, aim for a Volvo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Physics begs to differ .
In a 2-car accident , your crumple zones work for both you and the 73 Olds.So if you 're ever in a pile-up on the freeway , aim for a Volvo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Physics begs to differ.
In a 2-car accident, your crumple zones work for both you and the 73 Olds.So if you're ever in a pile-up on the freeway, aim for a Volvo.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913814</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913102</id>
	<title>Re:free SAAB?</title>
	<author>Aranykai</author>
	<datestamp>1264521600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It wasn't a bailout, it was a loan, which they are already paying back. Go back to your fox/cnn/nbc news network and leave the intelligent people alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was n't a bailout , it was a loan , which they are already paying back .
Go back to your fox/cnn/nbc news network and leave the intelligent people alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wasn't a bailout, it was a loan, which they are already paying back.
Go back to your fox/cnn/nbc news network and leave the intelligent people alone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912920</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913074</id>
	<title>Saab</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264521180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
About the only thing interesting about Saab was the turbo engines it used for a long time.  Oh, and hatchback/wagon body styles.
</p><p>
Otherwise, it's become an overpriced front-drive Euro junk for many years now.  It certainly don't got the German handling touch.  More closer to halfway between a Beemer and Oldsmobile cows.
</p><p>
Go ahead.  Tell me what so special about it.  Something more than the superficial key hole in the middle aisle and the like.
</p><p>
Did I mention it's expensive to service this make?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>About the only thing interesting about Saab was the turbo engines it used for a long time .
Oh , and hatchback/wagon body styles .
Otherwise , it 's become an overpriced front-drive Euro junk for many years now .
It certainly do n't got the German handling touch .
More closer to halfway between a Beemer and Oldsmobile cows .
Go ahead .
Tell me what so special about it .
Something more than the superficial key hole in the middle aisle and the like .
Did I mention it 's expensive to service this make ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
About the only thing interesting about Saab was the turbo engines it used for a long time.
Oh, and hatchback/wagon body styles.
Otherwise, it's become an overpriced front-drive Euro junk for many years now.
It certainly don't got the German handling touch.
More closer to halfway between a Beemer and Oldsmobile cows.
Go ahead.
Tell me what so special about it.
Something more than the superficial key hole in the middle aisle and the like.
Did I mention it's expensive to service this make?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916226</id>
	<title>Re:How is this news for nerds?</title>
	<author>chrisjwray</author>
	<datestamp>1264602780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you're interested in bumping up the torque and bhp you might want to do a quick google for "BSR saab".</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're interested in bumping up the torque and bhp you might want to do a quick google for " BSR saab " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're interested in bumping up the torque and bhp you might want to do a quick google for "BSR saab".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915964</id>
	<title>Re:Time for GM to dump all European brands</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264601040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, you are thinking of Holden. All the new mid size and performance models are based on their Ozzy counterparts starting with the original Cadillac CTS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , you are thinking of Holden .
All the new mid size and performance models are based on their Ozzy counterparts starting with the original Cadillac CTS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, you are thinking of Holden.
All the new mid size and performance models are based on their Ozzy counterparts starting with the original Cadillac CTS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914148</parent>
</comment>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_64</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913354
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_37</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913430
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913814
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917132
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_40</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916138
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_31</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913660
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_54</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913392
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914148
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915964
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_27</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914938
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_30</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913430
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913676
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914928
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_61</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915626
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_32</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914464
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_18</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916896
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_11</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30922414
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_4</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914962
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_3</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913514
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_59</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912898
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913140
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_62</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913074
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913766
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_53</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913430
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913676
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916028
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_24</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915354
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_49</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919682
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_52</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912862
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913048
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_43</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916226
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_17</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912862
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913168
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_21</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913392
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914060
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30924952
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_16</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915270
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_9</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914320
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915960
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_2</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914140
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_69</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913430
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913814
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915952
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_46</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914676
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30920656
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_51</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916864
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_22</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915982
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_65</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913724
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_36</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913068
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914046
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_41</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914688
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_15</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914344
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_8</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917100
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_7</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913392
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914148
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917628
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_66</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912862
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913018
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915196
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_10</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915122
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_28</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913392
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914060
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919906
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_44</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917440
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_35</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916204
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_58</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914950
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_63</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915962
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_34</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914632
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_25</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913466
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917550
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_6</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913232
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30931650
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_55</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30920342
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_26</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916510
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_1</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913512
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_57</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913392
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914148
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914802
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_60</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913968
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_33</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914904
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_56</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915006
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_19</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913392
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914148
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915086
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_47</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913232
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916970
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_50</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913562
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_23</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913074
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914310
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919884
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_14</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913750
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914644
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_48</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912920
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913102
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914092
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_0</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913596
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_39</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913050
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_42</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30930054
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_67</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914768
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_38</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912920
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913102
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914338
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_29</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912862
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913018
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916302
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_20</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919150
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_45</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915384
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_68</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916332
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_13</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913630
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914368
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_12</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30918770
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_26_2315256_5</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915640
</commentlist>
</thread>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.5</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913392
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914060
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30924952
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919906
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914148
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915086
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914802
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915964
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917628
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.8</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912898
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913140
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.3</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913074
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913766
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914310
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919884
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.6</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912862
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913168
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913018
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915196
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916302
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913048
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.12</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914980
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.10</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912874
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913050
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914962
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30930054
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914904
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913968
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912954
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917100
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913430
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913814
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917132
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915952
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913676
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916028
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914928
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913232
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916970
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30931650
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30920342
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915384
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913514
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914344
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913088
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913596
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913230
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916864
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915270
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916332
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919682
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917440
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916510
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913724
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916226
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915962
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.9</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912904
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.7</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912930
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.0</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912884
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913162
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915640
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30919150
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914676
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30920656
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915626
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913466
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30917550
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913348
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30922414
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915122
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914632
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914320
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915960
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915354
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916896
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916204
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915982
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914688
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914950
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.14</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913222
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.1</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913386
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.13</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912920
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913102
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914092
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914338
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.11</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913630
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914368
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.4</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913068
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914046
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.2</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913696
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_26_2315256.15</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30912956
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30918770
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914938
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913750
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914644
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914464
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30915006
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30916138
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914768
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913660
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913562
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913512
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30913354
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_2315256.30914140
</commentlist>
</conversation>
