<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_20_011244</id>
	<title>Sitting Down Too Long Is Bad Even If You Exercise</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1263981720000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://aqfl.net/" rel="nofollow">Ant</a> tips the week-old news that <a href="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/5438950.cms?prtpage=1">sitting down too much is not good for you</a>, even if you are otherwise fit. A blog at the LA Times reports a <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster\_shots/2010/01/a-new-definition-for-sedentary-behavior.html">followup from Swedish exercise experts</a>: they propose "establishing a new way of thinking about sedentary behavior. They suggest abolishing 'sedentary behavior' as a synonym for not exercising. Instead, sedentary time should be defined as 'muscular inactivity' to distinguish it from not doing any exercise at all." These experts warn that the excessively sedentary are running serious health risks, irrespective of how much exercise they get when they're not plonked behind a desk or lying on a sofa.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ant tips the week-old news that sitting down too much is not good for you , even if you are otherwise fit .
A blog at the LA Times reports a followup from Swedish exercise experts : they propose " establishing a new way of thinking about sedentary behavior .
They suggest abolishing 'sedentary behavior ' as a synonym for not exercising .
Instead , sedentary time should be defined as 'muscular inactivity ' to distinguish it from not doing any exercise at all .
" These experts warn that the excessively sedentary are running serious health risks , irrespective of how much exercise they get when they 're not plonked behind a desk or lying on a sofa .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ant tips the week-old news that sitting down too much is not good for you, even if you are otherwise fit.
A blog at the LA Times reports a followup from Swedish exercise experts: they propose "establishing a new way of thinking about sedentary behavior.
They suggest abolishing 'sedentary behavior' as a synonym for not exercising.
Instead, sedentary time should be defined as 'muscular inactivity' to distinguish it from not doing any exercise at all.
" These experts warn that the excessively sedentary are running serious health risks, irrespective of how much exercise they get when they're not plonked behind a desk or lying on a sofa.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834926</id>
	<title>Well, yes obviously</title>
	<author>gowen</author>
	<datestamp>1264014660000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>sitting down too much is not good for you,</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>Well of course it is.</p><p><b>Because that is what "TOO MUCH" means.</b>  If you do something a lot, but its not detrimental, its not "too much". When it becomes detrimental, thats when we say its "TOO MUCH".</p><p>Fuckitty Fuck McFuck. English, motherfucking slashdot editors.  Learn to fucking speak it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>sitting down too much is not good for you , Well of course it is.Because that is what " TOO MUCH " means .
If you do something a lot , but its not detrimental , its not " too much " .
When it becomes detrimental , thats when we say its " TOO MUCH " .Fuckitty Fuck McFuck .
English , motherfucking slashdot editors .
Learn to fucking speak it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> sitting down too much is not good for you, Well of course it is.Because that is what "TOO MUCH" means.
If you do something a lot, but its not detrimental, its not "too much".
When it becomes detrimental, thats when we say its "TOO MUCH".Fuckitty Fuck McFuck.
English, motherfucking slashdot editors.
Learn to fucking speak it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831308</id>
	<title>Re:Synonyms</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1264000320000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>&gt; Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day?</p><p>Same as I do every day.</p><p>&gt; That's right, you're in pain.</p><p>That's wrong, I feel fine.  Perhaps that's because I do physical labor every day.</p><p>&gt; I go to "working man's" bars where construstion workers hang out. These guys<br>&gt; spend all day in heavy exersize...</p><p>No they don't.  They spend all day operating machines that do heavy exercise.  And all night drinking, gobbling burgers, and watching TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day ? Same as I do every day. &gt; That 's right , you 're in pain.That 's wrong , I feel fine .
Perhaps that 's because I do physical labor every day. &gt; I go to " working man 's " bars where construstion workers hang out .
These guys &gt; spend all day in heavy exersize...No they do n't .
They spend all day operating machines that do heavy exercise .
And all night drinking , gobbling burgers , and watching TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day?Same as I do every day.&gt; That's right, you're in pain.That's wrong, I feel fine.
Perhaps that's because I do physical labor every day.&gt; I go to "working man's" bars where construstion workers hang out.
These guys&gt; spend all day in heavy exersize...No they don't.
They spend all day operating machines that do heavy exercise.
And all night drinking, gobbling burgers, and watching TV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30860338</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>zsau</author>
	<datestamp>1264180320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Sure one can exercise, but even so, it's always forced and "unnatural" in the sense that it's not required effort for what i do all day long.</i></p><p>You need to get from home to your place of work somehow. If you have two cars, sell one of them (nb. If walking/riding sounds tough, don't say "I'll get used to it first, then sell". Old habits die hard). Walk or ride. If it takes more than an hour to get to your place of work by bike, you might consider using public transport for a portion. Don't say "it's raining/snowing today, so I won't ride". Don't say "it's 40 deg C/100 deg F so I won't ride". Just make sure you've thought about the extreme weather conditions you'll have and you're adequately prepared <em>before</em> you'll face them. And make sure bike riding is your preferred option over any alternative. Bike riding is fun, once you know how to do it.</p><p>Obviously, to get to the point where you're able to ride an hour to and from work, you'll need to have exercise "tacked on". If you can, you might consider leaving a bike at work and riding to buy lunch from a location maybe fifteen minutes ride away. And make sure you have a lot of walking in your life as well. Buy a dog, and walk it with your kids (they'll love you for this). My only exercise is walking to and from uni every day (about 30 minutes each way at a decent pace), as well as to the shops (about 10-15 minutes each way) every now and again. I think I get the recommended minimum daily exercise out of that and not much more (I don't own a bike; I'm writing this post today instead of buying one...). But when I've borrowed someone else's bike, I'm able to do reasonably long rides (four hours) at a decent pace (nb. I'm generally a bike rider, and like in every field I think practice as well as fitness is important. So I wouldn't suggest you should do this unless right away unless you know you can cope if you find yourself exhausted, two hours from home by bike, and facing a strong headwind).</p><p>People who are younger (you say you've got kids, so this probably won't work for you) should try living in a multi-storey building, somewhere near the top, and avoiding the elevator. I only use elevators if I'm talking to someone who I can't convince to walk up. It's easier to do this if you've been stuck for an hour after the shop closed in a lift with a skip full of smelly rubbish, but it's probably a bit difficult to arrange for this to occur.</p><p>You're absolutely right that exercise needs to be something you integrate into your daily life and you don't notice you get it. I focus here on riding to work, because in American cities you're unlikely to be able to walk effectively. And because I hate buses, and that's all they've got in the city I presently live in. But if you could take public transport, but only by walking half an hour uphill at a decent pace, that's definitely a viable option.</p><p>Walking to the expensive local shops is also a way to save money, depending on your lifestyle: you're less likely to make impulse purchases because you have to carry everything home, and because you know that the very tasty looking icecream here costs twice as much as the equally tastey icecream at the shops you do your weekly shopping at.</p><p>If you do buy a bike, buy a good one. It's harder to ignore your $2000 bike sitting in the garage, than a $200 bike, because it sits in your wallet for ten times as long. Make sure it's suitable for its purpose by buying it from a bike shop, not a department store. And most important, pedal fast, not hard. Go for the lowest gear you can maintain your desired speed at, and don't look at the top gears until you're doing 30+ km/h (20+ mph).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure one can exercise , but even so , it 's always forced and " unnatural " in the sense that it 's not required effort for what i do all day long.You need to get from home to your place of work somehow .
If you have two cars , sell one of them ( nb .
If walking/riding sounds tough , do n't say " I 'll get used to it first , then sell " .
Old habits die hard ) .
Walk or ride .
If it takes more than an hour to get to your place of work by bike , you might consider using public transport for a portion .
Do n't say " it 's raining/snowing today , so I wo n't ride " .
Do n't say " it 's 40 deg C/100 deg F so I wo n't ride " .
Just make sure you 've thought about the extreme weather conditions you 'll have and you 're adequately prepared before you 'll face them .
And make sure bike riding is your preferred option over any alternative .
Bike riding is fun , once you know how to do it.Obviously , to get to the point where you 're able to ride an hour to and from work , you 'll need to have exercise " tacked on " .
If you can , you might consider leaving a bike at work and riding to buy lunch from a location maybe fifteen minutes ride away .
And make sure you have a lot of walking in your life as well .
Buy a dog , and walk it with your kids ( they 'll love you for this ) .
My only exercise is walking to and from uni every day ( about 30 minutes each way at a decent pace ) , as well as to the shops ( about 10-15 minutes each way ) every now and again .
I think I get the recommended minimum daily exercise out of that and not much more ( I do n't own a bike ; I 'm writing this post today instead of buying one... ) .
But when I 've borrowed someone else 's bike , I 'm able to do reasonably long rides ( four hours ) at a decent pace ( nb .
I 'm generally a bike rider , and like in every field I think practice as well as fitness is important .
So I would n't suggest you should do this unless right away unless you know you can cope if you find yourself exhausted , two hours from home by bike , and facing a strong headwind ) .People who are younger ( you say you 've got kids , so this probably wo n't work for you ) should try living in a multi-storey building , somewhere near the top , and avoiding the elevator .
I only use elevators if I 'm talking to someone who I ca n't convince to walk up .
It 's easier to do this if you 've been stuck for an hour after the shop closed in a lift with a skip full of smelly rubbish , but it 's probably a bit difficult to arrange for this to occur.You 're absolutely right that exercise needs to be something you integrate into your daily life and you do n't notice you get it .
I focus here on riding to work , because in American cities you 're unlikely to be able to walk effectively .
And because I hate buses , and that 's all they 've got in the city I presently live in .
But if you could take public transport , but only by walking half an hour uphill at a decent pace , that 's definitely a viable option.Walking to the expensive local shops is also a way to save money , depending on your lifestyle : you 're less likely to make impulse purchases because you have to carry everything home , and because you know that the very tasty looking icecream here costs twice as much as the equally tastey icecream at the shops you do your weekly shopping at.If you do buy a bike , buy a good one .
It 's harder to ignore your $ 2000 bike sitting in the garage , than a $ 200 bike , because it sits in your wallet for ten times as long .
Make sure it 's suitable for its purpose by buying it from a bike shop , not a department store .
And most important , pedal fast , not hard .
Go for the lowest gear you can maintain your desired speed at , and do n't look at the top gears until you 're doing 30 + km/h ( 20 + mph ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure one can exercise, but even so, it's always forced and "unnatural" in the sense that it's not required effort for what i do all day long.You need to get from home to your place of work somehow.
If you have two cars, sell one of them (nb.
If walking/riding sounds tough, don't say "I'll get used to it first, then sell".
Old habits die hard).
Walk or ride.
If it takes more than an hour to get to your place of work by bike, you might consider using public transport for a portion.
Don't say "it's raining/snowing today, so I won't ride".
Don't say "it's 40 deg C/100 deg F so I won't ride".
Just make sure you've thought about the extreme weather conditions you'll have and you're adequately prepared before you'll face them.
And make sure bike riding is your preferred option over any alternative.
Bike riding is fun, once you know how to do it.Obviously, to get to the point where you're able to ride an hour to and from work, you'll need to have exercise "tacked on".
If you can, you might consider leaving a bike at work and riding to buy lunch from a location maybe fifteen minutes ride away.
And make sure you have a lot of walking in your life as well.
Buy a dog, and walk it with your kids (they'll love you for this).
My only exercise is walking to and from uni every day (about 30 minutes each way at a decent pace), as well as to the shops (about 10-15 minutes each way) every now and again.
I think I get the recommended minimum daily exercise out of that and not much more (I don't own a bike; I'm writing this post today instead of buying one...).
But when I've borrowed someone else's bike, I'm able to do reasonably long rides (four hours) at a decent pace (nb.
I'm generally a bike rider, and like in every field I think practice as well as fitness is important.
So I wouldn't suggest you should do this unless right away unless you know you can cope if you find yourself exhausted, two hours from home by bike, and facing a strong headwind).People who are younger (you say you've got kids, so this probably won't work for you) should try living in a multi-storey building, somewhere near the top, and avoiding the elevator.
I only use elevators if I'm talking to someone who I can't convince to walk up.
It's easier to do this if you've been stuck for an hour after the shop closed in a lift with a skip full of smelly rubbish, but it's probably a bit difficult to arrange for this to occur.You're absolutely right that exercise needs to be something you integrate into your daily life and you don't notice you get it.
I focus here on riding to work, because in American cities you're unlikely to be able to walk effectively.
And because I hate buses, and that's all they've got in the city I presently live in.
But if you could take public transport, but only by walking half an hour uphill at a decent pace, that's definitely a viable option.Walking to the expensive local shops is also a way to save money, depending on your lifestyle: you're less likely to make impulse purchases because you have to carry everything home, and because you know that the very tasty looking icecream here costs twice as much as the equally tastey icecream at the shops you do your weekly shopping at.If you do buy a bike, buy a good one.
It's harder to ignore your $2000 bike sitting in the garage, than a $200 bike, because it sits in your wallet for ten times as long.
Make sure it's suitable for its purpose by buying it from a bike shop, not a department store.
And most important, pedal fast, not hard.
Go for the lowest gear you can maintain your desired speed at, and don't look at the top gears until you're doing 30+ km/h (20+ mph).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831202</id>
	<title>Re:I'll stay in my sofa</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263999660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>too many times i've got injured after geting up from sofa, bed, chair,...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>too many times i 've got injured after geting up from sofa , bed , chair,.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>too many times i've got injured after geting up from sofa, bed, chair,...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829948</id>
	<title>I have the solution</title>
	<author>dushkin</author>
	<datestamp>1263986400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a portable keyboard (Typing of the Dead style) and I type all my emails while running marathons.</p><p>Just fyi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a portable keyboard ( Typing of the Dead style ) and I type all my emails while running marathons.Just fyi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a portable keyboard (Typing of the Dead style) and I type all my emails while running marathons.Just fyi.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830214</id>
	<title>Re:Medical Advice from the Economic Times?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263989700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, that's not what it means. It means that the a priori risk of heart death of n\% is now n+n*1.08 given the new information.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , that 's not what it means .
It means that the a priori risk of heart death of n \ % is now n + n * 1.08 given the new information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, that's not what it means.
It means that the a priori risk of heart death of n\% is now n+n*1.08 given the new information.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830986</id>
	<title>Well to bad...</title>
	<author>wisnoskij</author>
	<datestamp>1263998220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well to bad that pretty much every school on the planet forces you to sit for numerous hours every day to learn and quite a few jobs also require that you sit.<br>
<br>
For me my school and job requires that I sit and most of my hobbies do as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well to bad that pretty much every school on the planet forces you to sit for numerous hours every day to learn and quite a few jobs also require that you sit .
For me my school and job requires that I sit and most of my hobbies do as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well to bad that pretty much every school on the planet forces you to sit for numerous hours every day to learn and quite a few jobs also require that you sit.
For me my school and job requires that I sit and most of my hobbies do as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830918</id>
	<title>No Win Situation</title>
	<author>spikesahead</author>
	<datestamp>1263997680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks science, I go to the gym at your advice and now I'm -still- going to die?</p><p>I have long since stopped giving a shit about most health risks and have instead upped my life insurance to the max.  It has long since passed the point where I can make a realistic change to my lifestyle that would still leave my life enjoyable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks science , I go to the gym at your advice and now I 'm -still- going to die ? I have long since stopped giving a shit about most health risks and have instead upped my life insurance to the max .
It has long since passed the point where I can make a realistic change to my lifestyle that would still leave my life enjoyable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks science, I go to the gym at your advice and now I'm -still- going to die?I have long since stopped giving a shit about most health risks and have instead upped my life insurance to the max.
It has long since passed the point where I can make a realistic change to my lifestyle that would still leave my life enjoyable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831016</id>
	<title>Re:One reason why not moving is making you sick:</title>
	<author>Acer500</author>
	<datestamp>1263998460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thanks for the post... I like being reminded about this stuff - I hope it's the nudge I need to actually start using the health club I'm paying for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P (I get home totally wasted after 12+ hs work, but probably only brain-wise, but I can't bring myself to go exercise).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for the post... I like being reminded about this stuff - I hope it 's the nudge I need to actually start using the health club I 'm paying for : P ( I get home totally wasted after 12 + hs work , but probably only brain-wise , but I ca n't bring myself to go exercise ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for the post... I like being reminded about this stuff - I hope it's the nudge I need to actually start using the health club I'm paying for :P (I get home totally wasted after 12+ hs work, but probably only brain-wise, but I can't bring myself to go exercise).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831072</id>
	<title>What about wheelchair bound people</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263999000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a spinal cord injury you insensitive clod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a spinal cord injury you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a spinal cord injury you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831002</id>
	<title>Re:Medical Advice from the Economic Times?</title>
	<author>Demonantis</author>
	<datestamp>1263998280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is a case of one of the most misleading abuses of statistics. If heart disease risk is 1\% then an 18\% increase means it is now 1.18\%. Not as dire as it first sounds, but I still doubt that statistic. It sounds like the one where if you don't get 8 hours of sleep you lose brain cells. Someone that knows enough about one aspect of science is making conclusions of one they know nothing of.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a case of one of the most misleading abuses of statistics .
If heart disease risk is 1 \ % then an 18 \ % increase means it is now 1.18 \ % .
Not as dire as it first sounds , but I still doubt that statistic .
It sounds like the one where if you do n't get 8 hours of sleep you lose brain cells .
Someone that knows enough about one aspect of science is making conclusions of one they know nothing of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a case of one of the most misleading abuses of statistics.
If heart disease risk is 1\% then an 18\% increase means it is now 1.18\%.
Not as dire as it first sounds, but I still doubt that statistic.
It sounds like the one where if you don't get 8 hours of sleep you lose brain cells.
Someone that knows enough about one aspect of science is making conclusions of one they know nothing of.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830406</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>Malc</author>
	<datestamp>1263991800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is basic maths not your strong point?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is basic maths not your strong point ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is basic maths not your strong point?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831026</id>
	<title>Re:Insurance?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263998520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The insurance companies are not going to take a hit because of fat lazy people who years down the road are going to die younger.  They take a hit from risky behavior that leads to health problems on short notice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The insurance companies are not going to take a hit because of fat lazy people who years down the road are going to die younger .
They take a hit from risky behavior that leads to health problems on short notice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The insurance companies are not going to take a hit because of fat lazy people who years down the road are going to die younger.
They take a hit from risky behavior that leads to health problems on short notice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830938</id>
	<title>Re:Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>mspohr</author>
	<datestamp>1263997860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Current advice suggests what I do (cycle to work, sit a lot, cycle home) is sufficient exercise. If the sitting a lot is itself harmful then I'd like to know.<p>

I think this article IS saying that sitting a lot is itself harmful.  Even if you are otherwise in good shape, just sitting for a long time (7 hours a day) is bad for you.  Get up every hour and climb a flight of stairs.</p><blockquote><div><p>Furthermore, relative to those watching less television (2 h/d),
there was a 46\% increased risk of all-cause and an 80\%
increased risk of CVD mortality in those watching 4 hours of
television per day, which were independent of traditional risk
factors such as smoking, blood pressure, cholesterol, and diet, as
well as leisure-time exercise and waist circumference.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Current advice suggests what I do ( cycle to work , sit a lot , cycle home ) is sufficient exercise .
If the sitting a lot is itself harmful then I 'd like to know .
I think this article IS saying that sitting a lot is itself harmful .
Even if you are otherwise in good shape , just sitting for a long time ( 7 hours a day ) is bad for you .
Get up every hour and climb a flight of stairs.Furthermore , relative to those watching less television ( 2 h/d ) , there was a 46 \ % increased risk of all-cause and an 80 \ % increased risk of CVD mortality in those watching 4 hours of television per day , which were independent of traditional risk factors such as smoking , blood pressure , cholesterol , and diet , as well as leisure-time exercise and waist circumference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Current advice suggests what I do (cycle to work, sit a lot, cycle home) is sufficient exercise.
If the sitting a lot is itself harmful then I'd like to know.
I think this article IS saying that sitting a lot is itself harmful.
Even if you are otherwise in good shape, just sitting for a long time (7 hours a day) is bad for you.
Get up every hour and climb a flight of stairs.Furthermore, relative to those watching less television (2 h/d),
there was a 46\% increased risk of all-cause and an 80\%
increased risk of CVD mortality in those watching 4 hours of
television per day, which were independent of traditional risk
factors such as smoking, blood pressure, cholesterol, and diet, as
well as leisure-time exercise and waist circumference.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831428</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>happy\_place</author>
	<datestamp>1264000860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think we really consider the impact of what it means to be in front of a computer day in and day out. yesterday a coworker and I put together some cabinets for a lab. It was outside the normal routine of programming/code work that we normally do. After four hours of this, we were both pretty beat, though there was nothing of extraordinary physical prowess required in putting the stupid cabinets together. We had to use a screwdriver, lift metal panels into place, etc, but nothing like my old grandpa used to do day in and day out on his farm. Feeling winded just climbing the steps to my office, I am starting to regret a lot about this particular field.

</p><p>Sure one can exercise, but even so, it's always forced and "unnatural" in the sense that it's not required effort for what i do all day long. It's a bit like the guy who engages in body building just long enough to get a movie deal or go on his honeymoon, and then the moment he stops he's worse off than when he started, because all that unnatural muscle turns flabby, because it simply isn't used.

</p><p>The other effect that comes with low-activity levels is that I am crankier--less willing to get up and help the kids, keep moving. When you're out of shape you tend to think of the shortest path to doing everything. I noticed this first when I saw an obese couple leaving a shopping market. Both were bickering over who put the groceries away. Then they had to climb up into their pickup, and the cart they were to put away started to drift. Since they'd already both gone to all the effort of climbing into the cab of the truck, neither of them wanted to climb out and get the cart so they yelled at each other. Someone in decent physical condition would not have thought twice about jumping out, grabbing the cart and putting it in its own spot.

</p><p>I don't know how one might solve these issues outside of making programming a full-body sport, but the concerns are legit, imo. Exercise really can't be something you tack onto the end of your day. It really should be part of the whole work experience, and there really aren't a lot of trivial solutions to that problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think we really consider the impact of what it means to be in front of a computer day in and day out .
yesterday a coworker and I put together some cabinets for a lab .
It was outside the normal routine of programming/code work that we normally do .
After four hours of this , we were both pretty beat , though there was nothing of extraordinary physical prowess required in putting the stupid cabinets together .
We had to use a screwdriver , lift metal panels into place , etc , but nothing like my old grandpa used to do day in and day out on his farm .
Feeling winded just climbing the steps to my office , I am starting to regret a lot about this particular field .
Sure one can exercise , but even so , it 's always forced and " unnatural " in the sense that it 's not required effort for what i do all day long .
It 's a bit like the guy who engages in body building just long enough to get a movie deal or go on his honeymoon , and then the moment he stops he 's worse off than when he started , because all that unnatural muscle turns flabby , because it simply is n't used .
The other effect that comes with low-activity levels is that I am crankier--less willing to get up and help the kids , keep moving .
When you 're out of shape you tend to think of the shortest path to doing everything .
I noticed this first when I saw an obese couple leaving a shopping market .
Both were bickering over who put the groceries away .
Then they had to climb up into their pickup , and the cart they were to put away started to drift .
Since they 'd already both gone to all the effort of climbing into the cab of the truck , neither of them wanted to climb out and get the cart so they yelled at each other .
Someone in decent physical condition would not have thought twice about jumping out , grabbing the cart and putting it in its own spot .
I do n't know how one might solve these issues outside of making programming a full-body sport , but the concerns are legit , imo .
Exercise really ca n't be something you tack onto the end of your day .
It really should be part of the whole work experience , and there really are n't a lot of trivial solutions to that problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think we really consider the impact of what it means to be in front of a computer day in and day out.
yesterday a coworker and I put together some cabinets for a lab.
It was outside the normal routine of programming/code work that we normally do.
After four hours of this, we were both pretty beat, though there was nothing of extraordinary physical prowess required in putting the stupid cabinets together.
We had to use a screwdriver, lift metal panels into place, etc, but nothing like my old grandpa used to do day in and day out on his farm.
Feeling winded just climbing the steps to my office, I am starting to regret a lot about this particular field.
Sure one can exercise, but even so, it's always forced and "unnatural" in the sense that it's not required effort for what i do all day long.
It's a bit like the guy who engages in body building just long enough to get a movie deal or go on his honeymoon, and then the moment he stops he's worse off than when he started, because all that unnatural muscle turns flabby, because it simply isn't used.
The other effect that comes with low-activity levels is that I am crankier--less willing to get up and help the kids, keep moving.
When you're out of shape you tend to think of the shortest path to doing everything.
I noticed this first when I saw an obese couple leaving a shopping market.
Both were bickering over who put the groceries away.
Then they had to climb up into their pickup, and the cart they were to put away started to drift.
Since they'd already both gone to all the effort of climbing into the cab of the truck, neither of them wanted to climb out and get the cart so they yelled at each other.
Someone in decent physical condition would not have thought twice about jumping out, grabbing the cart and putting it in its own spot.
I don't know how one might solve these issues outside of making programming a full-body sport, but the concerns are legit, imo.
Exercise really can't be something you tack onto the end of your day.
It really should be part of the whole work experience, and there really aren't a lot of trivial solutions to that problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831416</id>
	<title>Re:Synonyms</title>
	<author>joss</author>
	<datestamp>1264000800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Masterful. You definitely deserve feeding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Masterful .
You definitely deserve feeding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Masterful.
You definitely deserve feeding.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834352</id>
	<title>Re:Medical Advice from the Economic Times?</title>
	<author>DarkMage0707077</author>
	<datestamp>1264012080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>HAHAHA Stop making me laugh you're going to give me a heart atta</htmltext>
<tokenext>HAHAHA Stop making me laugh you 're going to give me a heart atta</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HAHAHA Stop making me laugh you're going to give me a heart atta</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30836698</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263978480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>better be careful:<br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stationary\_Bike</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>better be careful : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stationary \ _Bike</tokentext>
<sentencetext>better be careful:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stationary\_Bike</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834430</id>
	<title>Re:I'll stay in my sofa</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1264012320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you really think so then I challenge you to go live with the Bushmen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you really think so then I challenge you to go live with the Bushmen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you really think so then I challenge you to go live with the Bushmen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829888</id>
	<title>What we need is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263985740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...the exercise desk demonstrated by Woody Allen in the movie "Bananas".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...the exercise desk demonstrated by Woody Allen in the movie " Bananas " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the exercise desk demonstrated by Woody Allen in the movie "Bananas".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830518</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>laederkeps</author>
	<datestamp>1263993300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can't remember things when I'm standing.  I think its because I keep all my thoughts in my lap and when I stand up, they fall on the floor and <b>roll</b> under the desk.</p></div><p>I always wondered what the rounded corners on my lapt^Wnotebook were for!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't remember things when I 'm standing .
I think its because I keep all my thoughts in my lap and when I stand up , they fall on the floor and roll under the desk.I always wondered what the rounded corners on my lapt ^ Wnotebook were for !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't remember things when I'm standing.
I think its because I keep all my thoughts in my lap and when I stand up, they fall on the floor and roll under the desk.I always wondered what the rounded corners on my lapt^Wnotebook were for!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830014</id>
	<title>Couch Potatoe vs Office Workers</title>
	<author>XavidX</author>
	<datestamp>1263987360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sitting down on the sofa is different then sitting by a computer. Even the activities are different. I would like to see the study geered towards office workers who sit all day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sitting down on the sofa is different then sitting by a computer .
Even the activities are different .
I would like to see the study geered towards office workers who sit all day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sitting down on the sofa is different then sitting by a computer.
Even the activities are different.
I would like to see the study geered towards office workers who sit all day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834044</id>
	<title>Re:Secret to life</title>
	<author>Just Some Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1264011000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I rather live enjoying my time on my seat and sofa than force myself to write emails standing up.</p></div><p>How do you <em>know</em> this? I thought I'd hate a standing desk until I tried it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I rather live enjoying my time on my seat and sofa than force myself to write emails standing up.How do you know this ?
I thought I 'd hate a standing desk until I tried it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I rather live enjoying my time on my seat and sofa than force myself to write emails standing up.How do you know this?
I thought I'd hate a standing desk until I tried it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829906</id>
	<title>Better get alot of the slashdotters moving</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263985860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe slashdot will create a group webcam excercise confrence call, with each person wearing a mask with their Slashdot number on it. That would truly be a sight to behold. Then we can all be healthy enough to reach the next century.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe slashdot will create a group webcam excercise confrence call , with each person wearing a mask with their Slashdot number on it .
That would truly be a sight to behold .
Then we can all be healthy enough to reach the next century .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe slashdot will create a group webcam excercise confrence call, with each person wearing a mask with their Slashdot number on it.
That would truly be a sight to behold.
Then we can all be healthy enough to reach the next century.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834284</id>
	<title>More practical?</title>
	<author>Gage With Union</author>
	<datestamp>1264011840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exercise isn't the only way to accomplish this; I'm considering getting a standing desk.  I spend a lot of time sitting down programming and am often tired, and I've heard many positive stories from people who've made the switch.
</p><p>Just because we do sit down quite a bit doesn't mean we were designed for it.  Compare, for instance, the incidence rates of hemorrhoids in countries with sit vs. squat toilets...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exercise is n't the only way to accomplish this ; I 'm considering getting a standing desk .
I spend a lot of time sitting down programming and am often tired , and I 've heard many positive stories from people who 've made the switch .
Just because we do sit down quite a bit does n't mean we were designed for it .
Compare , for instance , the incidence rates of hemorrhoids in countries with sit vs. squat toilets.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exercise isn't the only way to accomplish this; I'm considering getting a standing desk.
I spend a lot of time sitting down programming and am often tired, and I've heard many positive stories from people who've made the switch.
Just because we do sit down quite a bit doesn't mean we were designed for it.
Compare, for instance, the incidence rates of hemorrhoids in countries with sit vs. squat toilets...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831278</id>
	<title>Re:What about smokers ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264000080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good news, you don't have to worry about dieing from a heart-attack.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good news , you do n't have to worry about dieing from a heart-attack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good news, you don't have to worry about dieing from a heart-attack.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834824</id>
	<title>Re:I'll stay in my sofa</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264014120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, if this is true I'm fucked anyway, might as well not exercise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , if this is true I 'm fucked anyway , might as well not exercise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, if this is true I'm fucked anyway, might as well not exercise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834146</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1264011360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I started running after I got my first cubicle jockey job. Thirty minutes of pushing myself hard after work every day and ten minutes of stretching before and after. This qualifies as the 'exercise you tack on the end of your day' category, but I feel great. My legs are in excellent shape. I have more energy than I ever used too. I have a much more 'get shit done' attitude. I'm not nearly as lazy. Of course for the first few months I was just tired and sore all the time. Nowadays, however, after a year's worth of running, I feel great. It works for me =)
<br> <br>
I agree, a sedentary lifestyle is a problem as well as unhealthy. My recommendation, start doing outdoorsy stuff on weekends and afternoons. Pick up some sort of board sport or something. If you are new at it, it will always suck for the first couple of months. Have some perseverance though and soon you will find you have a great new hobby. The plus side of a steady workout is that you can indulge yourself. Build some muscles, increase your metabolism, you can start eating some hearty meals. Good stuuf.
<br> <br>
Also, you mentioned you have kids, try getting involved in a sport or something with them. Take 'em hiking. Some of my best home memories involved my dad and I wandering around in the forest finding old deer skeletons and such on the weekend =)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I started running after I got my first cubicle jockey job .
Thirty minutes of pushing myself hard after work every day and ten minutes of stretching before and after .
This qualifies as the 'exercise you tack on the end of your day ' category , but I feel great .
My legs are in excellent shape .
I have more energy than I ever used too .
I have a much more 'get shit done ' attitude .
I 'm not nearly as lazy .
Of course for the first few months I was just tired and sore all the time .
Nowadays , however , after a year 's worth of running , I feel great .
It works for me = ) I agree , a sedentary lifestyle is a problem as well as unhealthy .
My recommendation , start doing outdoorsy stuff on weekends and afternoons .
Pick up some sort of board sport or something .
If you are new at it , it will always suck for the first couple of months .
Have some perseverance though and soon you will find you have a great new hobby .
The plus side of a steady workout is that you can indulge yourself .
Build some muscles , increase your metabolism , you can start eating some hearty meals .
Good stuuf .
Also , you mentioned you have kids , try getting involved in a sport or something with them .
Take 'em hiking .
Some of my best home memories involved my dad and I wandering around in the forest finding old deer skeletons and such on the weekend = )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I started running after I got my first cubicle jockey job.
Thirty minutes of pushing myself hard after work every day and ten minutes of stretching before and after.
This qualifies as the 'exercise you tack on the end of your day' category, but I feel great.
My legs are in excellent shape.
I have more energy than I ever used too.
I have a much more 'get shit done' attitude.
I'm not nearly as lazy.
Of course for the first few months I was just tired and sore all the time.
Nowadays, however, after a year's worth of running, I feel great.
It works for me =)
 
I agree, a sedentary lifestyle is a problem as well as unhealthy.
My recommendation, start doing outdoorsy stuff on weekends and afternoons.
Pick up some sort of board sport or something.
If you are new at it, it will always suck for the first couple of months.
Have some perseverance though and soon you will find you have a great new hobby.
The plus side of a steady workout is that you can indulge yourself.
Build some muscles, increase your metabolism, you can start eating some hearty meals.
Good stuuf.
Also, you mentioned you have kids, try getting involved in a sport or something with them.
Take 'em hiking.
Some of my best home memories involved my dad and I wandering around in the forest finding old deer skeletons and such on the weekend =)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830184</id>
	<title>Night</title>
	<author>Tachys</author>
	<datestamp>1263989400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh I'm awful about this</p><p>I am "excessively sedentary" for 8 hours every night</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh I 'm awful about thisI am " excessively sedentary " for 8 hours every night</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh I'm awful about thisI am "excessively sedentary" for 8 hours every night</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831208</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263999660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV, you will likely have died 1.44 times</p></div><p>What?  If I increase the chance that I will win the lottery by 100\% (by, say, buying 2 tickets instead of 1) it still doesn't mean that I'll have won it already.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV , you will likely have died 1.44 timesWhat ?
If I increase the chance that I will win the lottery by 100 \ % ( by , say , buying 2 tickets instead of 1 ) it still does n't mean that I 'll have won it already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV, you will likely have died 1.44 timesWhat?
If I increase the chance that I will win the lottery by 100\% (by, say, buying 2 tickets instead of 1) it still doesn't mean that I'll have won it already.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830798</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>KeithJM</author>
	<datestamp>1263996840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They say that every hour spent watching TV increases your risk of premature death by heart attack by 18\%... which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV, you will likely have died 1.44 times</p></div><p>No, if true it means that your odds of dieing from a heart attack would be 144\% higher.  If your odds were<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.001\%, now they are<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.00244\%

Another example would be that standing on a golf course holding up a metal stick might double your odds of getting struck by lightning (increase your chances by 100\%).  That doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get struck by lightning every time you lift a stick in the air, just that you're twice as likely as a guy standing between tall buildings and NOT holding a metal stick up in the air.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They say that every hour spent watching TV increases your risk of premature death by heart attack by 18 \ % ... which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV , you will likely have died 1.44 timesNo , if true it means that your odds of dieing from a heart attack would be 144 \ % higher .
If your odds were .001 \ % , now they are .00244 \ % Another example would be that standing on a golf course holding up a metal stick might double your odds of getting struck by lightning ( increase your chances by 100 \ % ) .
That does n't mean you 're guaranteed to get struck by lightning every time you lift a stick in the air , just that you 're twice as likely as a guy standing between tall buildings and NOT holding a metal stick up in the air .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They say that every hour spent watching TV increases your risk of premature death by heart attack by 18\%... which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV, you will likely have died 1.44 timesNo, if true it means that your odds of dieing from a heart attack would be 144\% higher.
If your odds were .001\%, now they are .00244\%

Another example would be that standing on a golf course holding up a metal stick might double your odds of getting struck by lightning (increase your chances by 100\%).
That doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get struck by lightning every time you lift a stick in the air, just that you're twice as likely as a guy standing between tall buildings and NOT holding a metal stick up in the air.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830170</id>
	<title>Re:Where's the part we can use?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263989100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article I read a couple of days ago reporting on this said 5 minutes standing up every 45 minutes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article I read a couple of days ago reporting on this said 5 minutes standing up every 45 minutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article I read a couple of days ago reporting on this said 5 minutes standing up every 45 minutes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30836266</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>pbot</author>
	<datestamp>1264019820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Start up an office sports team.  I am on two after work teams during the week where we get together and play indoor soccer.  Its fun and a great work out.

I think businesses ought to consider extending lunch hours to allow employees to go work out - lift weights, run, etc.  This would be another alterntative and an ideal way to stay in shape.  Plus just a chance to stop staring at the computer screen for awhile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Start up an office sports team .
I am on two after work teams during the week where we get together and play indoor soccer .
Its fun and a great work out .
I think businesses ought to consider extending lunch hours to allow employees to go work out - lift weights , run , etc .
This would be another alterntative and an ideal way to stay in shape .
Plus just a chance to stop staring at the computer screen for awhile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Start up an office sports team.
I am on two after work teams during the week where we get together and play indoor soccer.
Its fun and a great work out.
I think businesses ought to consider extending lunch hours to allow employees to go work out - lift weights, run, etc.
This would be another alterntative and an ideal way to stay in shape.
Plus just a chance to stop staring at the computer screen for awhile.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30833936</id>
	<title>Keep your legs elevated</title>
	<author>p51d007</author>
	<datestamp>1264010580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm just a "tad" overweight, and I'm on my feet 8-10 hours a day, but when I'm home, I try to keep my legs elevated as
much as possible, to keep the blood from pooling in the legs.
I know that you hear a lot (and I still wonder if that is what led to the death of the Meet the Press guy) that he had
some sort of deep vein thrombosis issue and something broke loose and caused problems.
You hear it happening to people on long airline flights, where they are sitting a long time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm just a " tad " overweight , and I 'm on my feet 8-10 hours a day , but when I 'm home , I try to keep my legs elevated as much as possible , to keep the blood from pooling in the legs .
I know that you hear a lot ( and I still wonder if that is what led to the death of the Meet the Press guy ) that he had some sort of deep vein thrombosis issue and something broke loose and caused problems .
You hear it happening to people on long airline flights , where they are sitting a long time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm just a "tad" overweight, and I'm on my feet 8-10 hours a day, but when I'm home, I try to keep my legs elevated as
much as possible, to keep the blood from pooling in the legs.
I know that you hear a lot (and I still wonder if that is what led to the death of the Meet the Press guy) that he had
some sort of deep vein thrombosis issue and something broke loose and caused problems.
You hear it happening to people on long airline flights, where they are sitting a long time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830632</id>
	<title>Statistics...</title>
	<author>gratuitous\_arp</author>
	<datestamp>1263994800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The study says that, after 6 years, they found people who sat around watching TV for 4 hours a day had greater risk than those who sat around watching TV for 2 hours a day.  And this "proves" that sitting increases your chances of death by X\%.</p><p>Did they try having the two groups switch their behavior after 3 years, to see if NOT sitting actually changed things?  Or is this effect natural and irreversible?  Did EVERYONE in the study exhibit the same results, or were some people affected less or more than others?</p><p>They addressed issues such as smoking, but what about other lifestyle differences?  How many of the people who watched TV for 4 hours a day also sat at a computer at work for 8 hours a day -- skewing their reported results?  Or how many had higher stress jobs that might cause the same effect for different reasons?</p><p>Just things I wonder about when reading something like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The study says that , after 6 years , they found people who sat around watching TV for 4 hours a day had greater risk than those who sat around watching TV for 2 hours a day .
And this " proves " that sitting increases your chances of death by X \ % .Did they try having the two groups switch their behavior after 3 years , to see if NOT sitting actually changed things ?
Or is this effect natural and irreversible ?
Did EVERYONE in the study exhibit the same results , or were some people affected less or more than others ? They addressed issues such as smoking , but what about other lifestyle differences ?
How many of the people who watched TV for 4 hours a day also sat at a computer at work for 8 hours a day -- skewing their reported results ?
Or how many had higher stress jobs that might cause the same effect for different reasons ? Just things I wonder about when reading something like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The study says that, after 6 years, they found people who sat around watching TV for 4 hours a day had greater risk than those who sat around watching TV for 2 hours a day.
And this "proves" that sitting increases your chances of death by X\%.Did they try having the two groups switch their behavior after 3 years, to see if NOT sitting actually changed things?
Or is this effect natural and irreversible?
Did EVERYONE in the study exhibit the same results, or were some people affected less or more than others?They addressed issues such as smoking, but what about other lifestyle differences?
How many of the people who watched TV for 4 hours a day also sat at a computer at work for 8 hours a day -- skewing their reported results?
Or how many had higher stress jobs that might cause the same effect for different reasons?Just things I wonder about when reading something like this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830690</id>
	<title>This means...</title>
	<author>pforce</author>
	<datestamp>1263995520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can never sleep again!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can never sleep again !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can never sleep again!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830362</id>
	<title>Re:Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263991320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just  a comment about the sitting.</p><p>I have a sitting job similar to yours (sitting form 9 to 2 and then from 3 to 6).</p><p>My job also requires me to fly a bit. Almost every year I make 12 hour flights. Last year I bought one of those "compression socks" at Charles de Gaulle Airport (15 Euro IIRC) before my long flight.</p><p>The compression socks did provide a nice relief during the flight, and according to a bit I have been reading they are good for circulation.</p><p>After my flight I thought that they may be useful for my everyday office work. I have been using them since the beginning of the year and they seem nice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just a comment about the sitting.I have a sitting job similar to yours ( sitting form 9 to 2 and then from 3 to 6 ) .My job also requires me to fly a bit .
Almost every year I make 12 hour flights .
Last year I bought one of those " compression socks " at Charles de Gaulle Airport ( 15 Euro IIRC ) before my long flight.The compression socks did provide a nice relief during the flight , and according to a bit I have been reading they are good for circulation.After my flight I thought that they may be useful for my everyday office work .
I have been using them since the beginning of the year and they seem nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just  a comment about the sitting.I have a sitting job similar to yours (sitting form 9 to 2 and then from 3 to 6).My job also requires me to fly a bit.
Almost every year I make 12 hour flights.
Last year I bought one of those "compression socks" at Charles de Gaulle Airport (15 Euro IIRC) before my long flight.The compression socks did provide a nice relief during the flight, and according to a bit I have been reading they are good for circulation.After my flight I thought that they may be useful for my everyday office work.
I have been using them since the beginning of the year and they seem nice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829994</id>
	<title>I exercise when sitting</title>
	<author>Issarlk</author>
	<datestamp>1263987060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...with my stepper under the desk. Problem solved.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...with my stepper under the desk .
Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...with my stepper under the desk.
Problem solved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834842</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264014240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I second bike commuting.  It was the best lifestyle choice I've made in memory.</p><p>Wake up, drink 18 oz. of water.  The physical exertion of riding the bike oxygenates my blood, and gives me energy to start the day.  Waking up and riding in the sunshine is much more inspiring than going underground in to a rat-infested subway station -- it's made a huge difference in my mood when I arrive at work.  I feel alive and full of energy.  Plenty oxygen to the brain makes for clearer thinking.</p><p>In addition to the mental and physical health benefits, I save $4.50 every day in subway fare.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I second bike commuting .
It was the best lifestyle choice I 've made in memory.Wake up , drink 18 oz .
of water .
The physical exertion of riding the bike oxygenates my blood , and gives me energy to start the day .
Waking up and riding in the sunshine is much more inspiring than going underground in to a rat-infested subway station -- it 's made a huge difference in my mood when I arrive at work .
I feel alive and full of energy .
Plenty oxygen to the brain makes for clearer thinking.In addition to the mental and physical health benefits , I save $ 4.50 every day in subway fare .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I second bike commuting.
It was the best lifestyle choice I've made in memory.Wake up, drink 18 oz.
of water.
The physical exertion of riding the bike oxygenates my blood, and gives me energy to start the day.
Waking up and riding in the sunshine is much more inspiring than going underground in to a rat-infested subway station -- it's made a huge difference in my mood when I arrive at work.
I feel alive and full of energy.
Plenty oxygen to the brain makes for clearer thinking.In addition to the mental and physical health benefits, I save $4.50 every day in subway fare.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832076</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>vtcodger</author>
	<datestamp>1264003740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>***I am starting to regret a lot about this particular field.***</p><p>But think of all the beautiful sunrises you would have missed out on had you chosen to repair cars or dig wells.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* * * I am starting to regret a lot about this particular field .
* * * But think of all the beautiful sunrises you would have missed out on had you chosen to repair cars or dig wells .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>***I am starting to regret a lot about this particular field.
***But think of all the beautiful sunrises you would have missed out on had you chosen to repair cars or dig wells.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30837024</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263979740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we make our workflow that of Minority Report, and stand in front of a giant screen waving our hands all day, we will rival bodybuilders.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we make our workflow that of Minority Report , and stand in front of a giant screen waving our hands all day , we will rival bodybuilders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we make our workflow that of Minority Report, and stand in front of a giant screen waving our hands all day, we will rival bodybuilders.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831122</id>
	<title>Re:Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1263999240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you literally sit in that chair for 7 hours, no meetings, no lunch break, no coffee breaks (with or without coffee), no toilet breaks then no it's not healthy. That's like those really long flights they also worry about, except every day. Just get up once every two hours minimum, take a minute to walk to the water cooler and back. It's not for the exercise, but it is good for the body anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you literally sit in that chair for 7 hours , no meetings , no lunch break , no coffee breaks ( with or without coffee ) , no toilet breaks then no it 's not healthy .
That 's like those really long flights they also worry about , except every day .
Just get up once every two hours minimum , take a minute to walk to the water cooler and back .
It 's not for the exercise , but it is good for the body anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you literally sit in that chair for 7 hours, no meetings, no lunch break, no coffee breaks (with or without coffee), no toilet breaks then no it's not healthy.
That's like those really long flights they also worry about, except every day.
Just get up once every two hours minimum, take a minute to walk to the water cooler and back.
It's not for the exercise, but it is good for the body anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830064</id>
	<title>Re:Medical Advice from the Economic Times?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263988080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's quite impressive, it means that theoretically I should die before I finish typing out this respon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's quite impressive , it means that theoretically I should die before I finish typing out this respon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's quite impressive, it means that theoretically I should die before I finish typing out this respon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830050</id>
	<title>junk summary and blog, maybe study</title>
	<author>dltaylor</author>
	<datestamp>1263987780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The blog misquotes the LA Times article (which originally misquoted the study), and the summary parrots the blog.</p><p>May be a bit of junk science, too, but it's hard to tell since I can't find the original study.</p><p>If the quotes in the corrected LA Times article are accurate, then the researchers are simply full of it.  They describe an 46\% increased risk of death by all causes, which is patent nonsense.  Everyone's risk (unless there's a secret medical facility I can't access) of death from all causes is 100\%.</p><p>I'm not saying that there definitely is not a correlation, perhaps even a causal relationship, between sitting for too long in front of the tube and some decrease in life expectancy.  However, there may be a step function here where at four hours of sitting the body makes metabolic changes that don't happen at 3.5 (or 2.9, or some such).</p><p>What about sitting at the symphony, ballet, office, or while reading books (or journals)?  Why specifically call out the "telly time"?  Even then, is there any difference between consistently watching sports (football vs cricket?), drama, comedy (laughter is good for you, remember), game shows, and soaps?  Maybe too much passive watching (of any or all TV programming) simply rots some part of your brain and that signals your body to quit wasting time and space.</p><p>What about meal and "euphemism" breaks?  How is that figured into the study?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The blog misquotes the LA Times article ( which originally misquoted the study ) , and the summary parrots the blog.May be a bit of junk science , too , but it 's hard to tell since I ca n't find the original study.If the quotes in the corrected LA Times article are accurate , then the researchers are simply full of it .
They describe an 46 \ % increased risk of death by all causes , which is patent nonsense .
Everyone 's risk ( unless there 's a secret medical facility I ca n't access ) of death from all causes is 100 \ % .I 'm not saying that there definitely is not a correlation , perhaps even a causal relationship , between sitting for too long in front of the tube and some decrease in life expectancy .
However , there may be a step function here where at four hours of sitting the body makes metabolic changes that do n't happen at 3.5 ( or 2.9 , or some such ) .What about sitting at the symphony , ballet , office , or while reading books ( or journals ) ?
Why specifically call out the " telly time " ?
Even then , is there any difference between consistently watching sports ( football vs cricket ?
) , drama , comedy ( laughter is good for you , remember ) , game shows , and soaps ?
Maybe too much passive watching ( of any or all TV programming ) simply rots some part of your brain and that signals your body to quit wasting time and space.What about meal and " euphemism " breaks ?
How is that figured into the study ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The blog misquotes the LA Times article (which originally misquoted the study), and the summary parrots the blog.May be a bit of junk science, too, but it's hard to tell since I can't find the original study.If the quotes in the corrected LA Times article are accurate, then the researchers are simply full of it.
They describe an 46\% increased risk of death by all causes, which is patent nonsense.
Everyone's risk (unless there's a secret medical facility I can't access) of death from all causes is 100\%.I'm not saying that there definitely is not a correlation, perhaps even a causal relationship, between sitting for too long in front of the tube and some decrease in life expectancy.
However, there may be a step function here where at four hours of sitting the body makes metabolic changes that don't happen at 3.5 (or 2.9, or some such).What about sitting at the symphony, ballet, office, or while reading books (or journals)?
Why specifically call out the "telly time"?
Even then, is there any difference between consistently watching sports (football vs cricket?
), drama, comedy (laughter is good for you, remember), game shows, and soaps?
Maybe too much passive watching (of any or all TV programming) simply rots some part of your brain and that signals your body to quit wasting time and space.What about meal and "euphemism" breaks?
How is that figured into the study?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830074</id>
	<title>Re:Synonyms</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263988080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Sedantary behaviour", originally a medical term, has found its way into normal British English. Looking at <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/trends?q=sedentary" title="google.co.uk">Google Trends</a> [google.co.uk] it's in everyone else's English too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Sedantary behaviour " , originally a medical term , has found its way into normal British English .
Looking at Google Trends [ google.co.uk ] it 's in everyone else 's English too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Sedantary behaviour", originally a medical term, has found its way into normal British English.
Looking at Google Trends [google.co.uk] it's in everyone else's English too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830664</id>
	<title>So the Romans weren't "lazy" ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263995220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If this article is true (I am kinda sceptical) it does make me wonder how advanced the ancient Romans actually were. While they had seats like we have it was a very common thing to lie down on bigger social gatherings. In the therms, at the royal courts, in certain taverns, etc.  Did they already know about this or were they simply lazy?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If this article is true ( I am kinda sceptical ) it does make me wonder how advanced the ancient Romans actually were .
While they had seats like we have it was a very common thing to lie down on bigger social gatherings .
In the therms , at the royal courts , in certain taverns , etc .
Did they already know about this or were they simply lazy ?
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this article is true (I am kinda sceptical) it does make me wonder how advanced the ancient Romans actually were.
While they had seats like we have it was a very common thing to lie down on bigger social gatherings.
In the therms, at the royal courts, in certain taverns, etc.
Did they already know about this or were they simply lazy?
;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830142</id>
	<title>Simple solution:</title>
	<author>Max Romantschuk</author>
	<datestamp>1263988740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make it a point to get up from your desk multiple times during your workday, even if it's only to walk back and fourth across the room a few times.</p><p>I keep my smoking co-workers company outside every now and then, just for the get-up-and-get-the-blood-flowing -factor. I'm betting any second hand smoke I inhale will be less of a risk than the benefits of moving about a bit. (Not that I ever would enter a smoking room, but fortunately there are none at our office.)</p><p>Besides, it's a proven fact that coders need breaks to be productive. It's a net gain for management too!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make it a point to get up from your desk multiple times during your workday , even if it 's only to walk back and fourth across the room a few times.I keep my smoking co-workers company outside every now and then , just for the get-up-and-get-the-blood-flowing -factor .
I 'm betting any second hand smoke I inhale will be less of a risk than the benefits of moving about a bit .
( Not that I ever would enter a smoking room , but fortunately there are none at our office .
) Besides , it 's a proven fact that coders need breaks to be productive .
It 's a net gain for management too !
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make it a point to get up from your desk multiple times during your workday, even if it's only to walk back and fourth across the room a few times.I keep my smoking co-workers company outside every now and then, just for the get-up-and-get-the-blood-flowing -factor.
I'm betting any second hand smoke I inhale will be less of a risk than the benefits of moving about a bit.
(Not that I ever would enter a smoking room, but fortunately there are none at our office.
)Besides, it's a proven fact that coders need breaks to be productive.
It's a net gain for management too!
;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832254</id>
	<title>Re:I'm writing this while standing up</title>
	<author>newdsfornerds</author>
	<datestamp>1264004580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>GOLD!</htmltext>
<tokenext>GOLD !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GOLD!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832410</id>
	<title>Sucks if you must use a wheelchair</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264005300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some people must use a wheelchair. I guess being who they are is bad for them? What next?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some people must use a wheelchair .
I guess being who they are is bad for them ?
What next ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some people must use a wheelchair.
I guess being who they are is bad for them?
What next?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832010</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264003380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>/facepalm</p><p>I don't know what is stupider, your post, or the mods who modded it up.</p><p>Unless this was a <i>really</i> subtle jab at articles that use referential arguments without establishing the baseline (in this case, the risk of premature death by heart attack in a non-sedentary individual).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>/facepalmI do n't know what is stupider , your post , or the mods who modded it up.Unless this was a really subtle jab at articles that use referential arguments without establishing the baseline ( in this case , the risk of premature death by heart attack in a non-sedentary individual ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/facepalmI don't know what is stupider, your post, or the mods who modded it up.Unless this was a really subtle jab at articles that use referential arguments without establishing the baseline (in this case, the risk of premature death by heart attack in a non-sedentary individual).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30833230</id>
	<title>Life, it's bad fer ya</title>
	<author>celtic\_hackr</author>
	<datestamp>1264008060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Life, it's bad fer ya. <br>
Might as well kill yourself now and get it over with.<br> <br>
Or do what I do. Live every day as if you're going to die today,  <br>
and try to die doing what you love.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Life , it 's bad fer ya .
Might as well kill yourself now and get it over with .
Or do what I do .
Live every day as if you 're going to die today , and try to die doing what you love .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Life, it's bad fer ya.
Might as well kill yourself now and get it over with.
Or do what I do.
Live every day as if you're going to die today,  
and try to die doing what you love.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834620</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>XDirtypunkX</author>
	<datestamp>1264013280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you can't have sex because you forget how it works when you try?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you ca n't have sex because you forget how it works when you try ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you can't have sex because you forget how it works when you try?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830024</id>
	<title>Conclusion?</title>
	<author>ardor</author>
	<datestamp>1263987480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ehm, what is the conclusion of this? Abolish sitting altogether? What about office work? Sitting for 8 hours is pretty common, you know..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ehm , what is the conclusion of this ?
Abolish sitting altogether ?
What about office work ?
Sitting for 8 hours is pretty common , you know. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ehm, what is the conclusion of this?
Abolish sitting altogether?
What about office work?
Sitting for 8 hours is pretty common, you know..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830034</id>
	<title>Re:Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263987600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Secondly, if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day, you are not fit.</p></div><p>Why not? I have a desk job, and I sit here for ~7 hours a day, but a few months back (for a completely unrelated issue) I wasted four hours in a hospital waiting for tests and results, before the doctor said "I'm worried about your heart rate, it's unusually low, but we can't find anything wrong with you. Do you do much exercise?" "Yes, I cycle fast for half an hour every morning and evening." "Oh. You've got nothing to worry about then, feel free to leave."</p><p>Current advice suggests what I do (cycle to work, sit a lot, cycle home) is sufficient exercise. If the sitting a lot is itself harmful then I'd like to know.</p><p>The study says <i>"Climbing stairs rather than using elevators and escalators, 5 minutes of break during sedentary work, or walking to the store rather than taking the car will be as important as exercise."</i>, which is good to know --  I don't own a car and take the stairs whenever practical anyway, so maybe I should take more breaks at work.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Secondly , if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day , you are not fit.Why not ?
I have a desk job , and I sit here for ~ 7 hours a day , but a few months back ( for a completely unrelated issue ) I wasted four hours in a hospital waiting for tests and results , before the doctor said " I 'm worried about your heart rate , it 's unusually low , but we ca n't find anything wrong with you .
Do you do much exercise ?
" " Yes , I cycle fast for half an hour every morning and evening .
" " Oh .
You 've got nothing to worry about then , feel free to leave .
" Current advice suggests what I do ( cycle to work , sit a lot , cycle home ) is sufficient exercise .
If the sitting a lot is itself harmful then I 'd like to know.The study says " Climbing stairs rather than using elevators and escalators , 5 minutes of break during sedentary work , or walking to the store rather than taking the car will be as important as exercise .
" , which is good to know -- I do n't own a car and take the stairs whenever practical anyway , so maybe I should take more breaks at work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Secondly, if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day, you are not fit.Why not?
I have a desk job, and I sit here for ~7 hours a day, but a few months back (for a completely unrelated issue) I wasted four hours in a hospital waiting for tests and results, before the doctor said "I'm worried about your heart rate, it's unusually low, but we can't find anything wrong with you.
Do you do much exercise?
" "Yes, I cycle fast for half an hour every morning and evening.
" "Oh.
You've got nothing to worry about then, feel free to leave.
"Current advice suggests what I do (cycle to work, sit a lot, cycle home) is sufficient exercise.
If the sitting a lot is itself harmful then I'd like to know.The study says "Climbing stairs rather than using elevators and escalators, 5 minutes of break during sedentary work, or walking to the store rather than taking the car will be as important as exercise.
", which is good to know --  I don't own a car and take the stairs whenever practical anyway, so maybe I should take more breaks at work.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830524</id>
	<title>Too much is bad for you</title>
	<author>professorguy</author>
	<datestamp>1263993420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love stories that tell you that "too much" is bad for you.  Too much sitting?  Bad for you!
<br> <br>
Maybe it's because THE DEFINITION OF "TOO MUCH" IS "THE AMOUNT THAT'S BAD FOR YOU."
<br> <br>
Fer chrissakes, "too much" <i>water</i> is bad for you, because you've only had "too much" once you've drowned.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love stories that tell you that " too much " is bad for you .
Too much sitting ?
Bad for you !
Maybe it 's because THE DEFINITION OF " TOO MUCH " IS " THE AMOUNT THAT 'S BAD FOR YOU .
" Fer chrissakes , " too much " water is bad for you , because you 've only had " too much " once you 've drowned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love stories that tell you that "too much" is bad for you.
Too much sitting?
Bad for you!
Maybe it's because THE DEFINITION OF "TOO MUCH" IS "THE AMOUNT THAT'S BAD FOR YOU.
"
 
Fer chrissakes, "too much" water is bad for you, because you've only had "too much" once you've drowned.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829894</id>
	<title>Insurance?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263985800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I honestly can't help but wonder if this will eventually be used as an excuse to hike insurance/worker's comp rates for desk jockeys...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I honestly ca n't help but wonder if this will eventually be used as an excuse to hike insurance/worker 's comp rates for desk jockeys.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I honestly can't help but wonder if this will eventually be used as an excuse to hike insurance/worker's comp rates for desk jockeys...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832926</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264007100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I really need a companion if I'm to do it again, it got a bit dull going alone.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
a/s/l?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really need a companion if I 'm to do it again , it got a bit dull going alone .
a/s/l ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really need a companion if I'm to do it again, it got a bit dull going alone.
a/s/l?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30836198</id>
	<title>rearrange work stations into a gym facility model</title>
	<author>ffflala</author>
	<datestamp>1264019520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Companies with a lot of sedentary work, if they could find it profitable to encourage the physical health of their employees (through insurance costs and lost productivity), should abandon the strictly desk/chair office model with various kinds of workstations that can provide for exercise. (Liability would be an issue, but then it always is.)</p><p>The geek cycle concept isn't particularly new: <a href="http://lifehacker.com/203760/exercise-while-you-work-with-the-geek+a+cycle-tm" title="lifehacker.com">http://lifehacker.com/203760/exercise-while-you-work-with-the-geek+a+cycle-tm</a> [lifehacker.com]</p><p>Standing workstations, reading stations for cardio, appropriate alternatives for the disabled for fairness's sake, and company shower/laundry facilities could reintegrate physical aspects into what has become mostly intellectual activity. I find that my focus for certain tasks is enhanced if I'm exercising during it --particularly reading challenging material while on the treadmill.</p><p>Gym currently don't seem the most conducive to work, but they are often designed with tons of distractions --blaring music to get you "pumped", treadmills with monitors playing only brain candy entertainment fare, lighting too poor for reading, etc. Put a cardio machine into an office setting and it takes on a different character.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Companies with a lot of sedentary work , if they could find it profitable to encourage the physical health of their employees ( through insurance costs and lost productivity ) , should abandon the strictly desk/chair office model with various kinds of workstations that can provide for exercise .
( Liability would be an issue , but then it always is .
) The geek cycle concept is n't particularly new : http : //lifehacker.com/203760/exercise-while-you-work-with-the-geek + a + cycle-tm [ lifehacker.com ] Standing workstations , reading stations for cardio , appropriate alternatives for the disabled for fairness 's sake , and company shower/laundry facilities could reintegrate physical aspects into what has become mostly intellectual activity .
I find that my focus for certain tasks is enhanced if I 'm exercising during it --particularly reading challenging material while on the treadmill.Gym currently do n't seem the most conducive to work , but they are often designed with tons of distractions --blaring music to get you " pumped " , treadmills with monitors playing only brain candy entertainment fare , lighting too poor for reading , etc .
Put a cardio machine into an office setting and it takes on a different character .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Companies with a lot of sedentary work, if they could find it profitable to encourage the physical health of their employees (through insurance costs and lost productivity), should abandon the strictly desk/chair office model with various kinds of workstations that can provide for exercise.
(Liability would be an issue, but then it always is.
)The geek cycle concept isn't particularly new: http://lifehacker.com/203760/exercise-while-you-work-with-the-geek+a+cycle-tm [lifehacker.com]Standing workstations, reading stations for cardio, appropriate alternatives for the disabled for fairness's sake, and company shower/laundry facilities could reintegrate physical aspects into what has become mostly intellectual activity.
I find that my focus for certain tasks is enhanced if I'm exercising during it --particularly reading challenging material while on the treadmill.Gym currently don't seem the most conducive to work, but they are often designed with tons of distractions --blaring music to get you "pumped", treadmills with monitors playing only brain candy entertainment fare, lighting too poor for reading, etc.
Put a cardio machine into an office setting and it takes on a different character.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830042</id>
	<title>Re:Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263987720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, firstly, I thought that anyone who (was) is sitting at a desk for hours each day would intuitively know that. So much for the news.</p> </div><p>Science is based on empirical evidence. Anecdotes or "Hey, everyone knows that" may be suggest what should be tested but should not be accepted as fact.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Secondly, if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day, you are not fit.</p></div><p>Well, you could have a massive upper body with a piece of crap lower body if you lift weights or something while sitting.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>But I am sure that the vast majority indeed needs expert advice to realize the obvious.</p> </div><p>The "Obvious" is debatable. What's obvious to a health care nut or a nutritionist isn't obvious to Joe Schmo. You can argue that hey, everyone should inherently know that red wine is good for you. Except...no it isn't?</p><p>http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/red-wine/HB00089</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Neither the American Heart Association nor the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute recommend that you start drinking alcohol just to prevent heart disease. Alcohol can be addictive and is associated with other health issues.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , firstly , I thought that anyone who ( was ) is sitting at a desk for hours each day would intuitively know that .
So much for the news .
Science is based on empirical evidence .
Anecdotes or " Hey , everyone knows that " may be suggest what should be tested but should not be accepted as fact.Secondly , if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day , you are not fit.Well , you could have a massive upper body with a piece of crap lower body if you lift weights or something while sitting.But I am sure that the vast majority indeed needs expert advice to realize the obvious .
The " Obvious " is debatable .
What 's obvious to a health care nut or a nutritionist is n't obvious to Joe Schmo .
You can argue that hey , everyone should inherently know that red wine is good for you .
Except...no it is n't ? http : //www.mayoclinic.com/health/red-wine/HB00089Neither the American Heart Association nor the National Heart , Lung , and Blood Institute recommend that you start drinking alcohol just to prevent heart disease .
Alcohol can be addictive and is associated with other health issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, firstly, I thought that anyone who (was) is sitting at a desk for hours each day would intuitively know that.
So much for the news.
Science is based on empirical evidence.
Anecdotes or "Hey, everyone knows that" may be suggest what should be tested but should not be accepted as fact.Secondly, if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day, you are not fit.Well, you could have a massive upper body with a piece of crap lower body if you lift weights or something while sitting.But I am sure that the vast majority indeed needs expert advice to realize the obvious.
The "Obvious" is debatable.
What's obvious to a health care nut or a nutritionist isn't obvious to Joe Schmo.
You can argue that hey, everyone should inherently know that red wine is good for you.
Except...no it isn't?http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/red-wine/HB00089Neither the American Heart Association nor the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute recommend that you start drinking alcohol just to prevent heart disease.
Alcohol can be addictive and is associated with other health issues.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30840512</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263994440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you are wrong too.<br>The correct calculation is: 0.0001*(1.18^8) = 0.00037588592</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you are wrong too.The correct calculation is : 0.0001 * ( 1.18 ^ 8 ) = 0.00037588592</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you are wrong too.The correct calculation is: 0.0001*(1.18^8) = 0.00037588592</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835504</id>
	<title>Re:I'll stay in my sofa</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1264016640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interesting remark. You and I are reading different books, it seems. I don't doubt that even early humans had a lot more than gathering, hunting and mating in their lives. My argument wasn't regarding the contents of their lives, but rather the timeframe and the closeness between effort and reward. From what I've learnt, it wasn't until agriculture and/or herding evolved that timelines of half a year or more between investment and payoff became common. Way too late in human development to have much of an influence on our genes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting remark .
You and I are reading different books , it seems .
I do n't doubt that even early humans had a lot more than gathering , hunting and mating in their lives .
My argument was n't regarding the contents of their lives , but rather the timeframe and the closeness between effort and reward .
From what I 've learnt , it was n't until agriculture and/or herding evolved that timelines of half a year or more between investment and payoff became common .
Way too late in human development to have much of an influence on our genes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting remark.
You and I are reading different books, it seems.
I don't doubt that even early humans had a lot more than gathering, hunting and mating in their lives.
My argument wasn't regarding the contents of their lives, but rather the timeframe and the closeness between effort and reward.
From what I've learnt, it wasn't until agriculture and/or herding evolved that timelines of half a year or more between investment and payoff became common.
Way too late in human development to have much of an influence on our genes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830372</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>wall0159</author>
	<datestamp>1263991380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Err... no. an increase of risk of 100\% means you're doubling your chances of premature death, not that you have a 100\% chance of dying instantly.</p><p>Basic stats, people!</p><p>(Having said that, the claim as stated sounds dubious. Perhaps it's been misreported, and the actual claim is "every hour of \_daily\_ TV watching increases the risk by 18\%" -- which is believable)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Err... no. an increase of risk of 100 \ % means you 're doubling your chances of premature death , not that you have a 100 \ % chance of dying instantly.Basic stats , people !
( Having said that , the claim as stated sounds dubious .
Perhaps it 's been misreported , and the actual claim is " every hour of \ _daily \ _ TV watching increases the risk by 18 \ % " -- which is believable )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Err... no. an increase of risk of 100\% means you're doubling your chances of premature death, not that you have a 100\% chance of dying instantly.Basic stats, people!
(Having said that, the claim as stated sounds dubious.
Perhaps it's been misreported, and the actual claim is "every hour of \_daily\_ TV watching increases the risk by 18\%" -- which is believable)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30843012</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>Jane Q. Public</author>
	<datestamp>1264016220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But you are <b>assuming</b> an initial risk that is very low. That might be reasonable in most cases, but not all. It would be perfectly possible for someone to already have a probability of 0.6 or 0.7, as opposed to your figure of 0.001\% (which is a probability of 0.0001).
<br> <br>
In that case, an increase of 18\% is quite significant, and according to OP could actually go above 1 (which of course is not actually possible).</htmltext>
<tokenext>But you are assuming an initial risk that is very low .
That might be reasonable in most cases , but not all .
It would be perfectly possible for someone to already have a probability of 0.6 or 0.7 , as opposed to your figure of 0.001 \ % ( which is a probability of 0.0001 ) .
In that case , an increase of 18 \ % is quite significant , and according to OP could actually go above 1 ( which of course is not actually possible ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But you are assuming an initial risk that is very low.
That might be reasonable in most cases, but not all.
It would be perfectly possible for someone to already have a probability of 0.6 or 0.7, as opposed to your figure of 0.001\% (which is a probability of 0.0001).
In that case, an increase of 18\% is quite significant, and according to OP could actually go above 1 (which of course is not actually possible).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30840830</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263996420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Sure one can exercise, but even so, it's always forced and "unnatural" in the sense that it's not required effort for what i do all day long. It's a bit like the guy who engages in body building just long enough to get a movie deal or go on his honeymoon, and then the moment he stops he's worse off than when he started, because all that unnatural muscle turns flabby, because it simply isn't used. </i></p><p>This is an old, and unfortunately, dangerous misconception. Muscle cells cannot turn into fat anymore than fat can turn into teeth. Muscle and fat cells are distinct. What generally causes people who used to exercise to turn flabby is that they continue to consume calories at the rate they did when they were active.  When that activity stops they quickly lose muscle mass and the fat cells start storing more fat. There are also a lot of misconceptions about "muscle memory", types of muscle (slow vs fast), fat within muscle, etc..</p><p>Pretty much anything that an advertised diet or exercise program is saying is wrong. The ads will generally take some study, pull out some aspect of it, simplify that aspect to the point of deception, then market it to millions. Somehow these ads become "medical fact".</p><p><i>I don't know how one might solve these issues outside of making programming a full-body sport, but the concerns are legit, imo. Exercise really can't be something you tack onto the end of your day. It really should be part of the whole work experience, and there really aren't a lot of trivial solutions to that problem.</i></p><p>And you're absolutely correct. It comes down to a lifestyle change. But there are a few things you can do that can improve your overall health. For example, try changing the size of your dinner plates. I had a buddy visit from England. One of the first things he said when we sat down to dinner was that all the dinner plates in my house were enormous. When the food was served he also informed that our portion sizes were enormous. I thought nothing of putting half a roasted chicken, a mound of rice, vegetables and lots of gravy on my plate. After the meal, I thought nothing of eating a "slice" of keylime pie.  He informed that the "slice" that I had for myself was what would serve as dessert for his family of four.</p><p>Now I'm not a doctor, but for various purposes I have doctors poking me with needles and taking my weight all the time. This information is straight from them.  But don't put too much faith in the doctors. The ones who can tell you the most are the freaking life insurance folks. Those bastards literally have it down to a science.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure one can exercise , but even so , it 's always forced and " unnatural " in the sense that it 's not required effort for what i do all day long .
It 's a bit like the guy who engages in body building just long enough to get a movie deal or go on his honeymoon , and then the moment he stops he 's worse off than when he started , because all that unnatural muscle turns flabby , because it simply is n't used .
This is an old , and unfortunately , dangerous misconception .
Muscle cells can not turn into fat anymore than fat can turn into teeth .
Muscle and fat cells are distinct .
What generally causes people who used to exercise to turn flabby is that they continue to consume calories at the rate they did when they were active .
When that activity stops they quickly lose muscle mass and the fat cells start storing more fat .
There are also a lot of misconceptions about " muscle memory " , types of muscle ( slow vs fast ) , fat within muscle , etc..Pretty much anything that an advertised diet or exercise program is saying is wrong .
The ads will generally take some study , pull out some aspect of it , simplify that aspect to the point of deception , then market it to millions .
Somehow these ads become " medical fact " .I do n't know how one might solve these issues outside of making programming a full-body sport , but the concerns are legit , imo .
Exercise really ca n't be something you tack onto the end of your day .
It really should be part of the whole work experience , and there really are n't a lot of trivial solutions to that problem.And you 're absolutely correct .
It comes down to a lifestyle change .
But there are a few things you can do that can improve your overall health .
For example , try changing the size of your dinner plates .
I had a buddy visit from England .
One of the first things he said when we sat down to dinner was that all the dinner plates in my house were enormous .
When the food was served he also informed that our portion sizes were enormous .
I thought nothing of putting half a roasted chicken , a mound of rice , vegetables and lots of gravy on my plate .
After the meal , I thought nothing of eating a " slice " of keylime pie .
He informed that the " slice " that I had for myself was what would serve as dessert for his family of four.Now I 'm not a doctor , but for various purposes I have doctors poking me with needles and taking my weight all the time .
This information is straight from them .
But do n't put too much faith in the doctors .
The ones who can tell you the most are the freaking life insurance folks .
Those bastards literally have it down to a science .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure one can exercise, but even so, it's always forced and "unnatural" in the sense that it's not required effort for what i do all day long.
It's a bit like the guy who engages in body building just long enough to get a movie deal or go on his honeymoon, and then the moment he stops he's worse off than when he started, because all that unnatural muscle turns flabby, because it simply isn't used.
This is an old, and unfortunately, dangerous misconception.
Muscle cells cannot turn into fat anymore than fat can turn into teeth.
Muscle and fat cells are distinct.
What generally causes people who used to exercise to turn flabby is that they continue to consume calories at the rate they did when they were active.
When that activity stops they quickly lose muscle mass and the fat cells start storing more fat.
There are also a lot of misconceptions about "muscle memory", types of muscle (slow vs fast), fat within muscle, etc..Pretty much anything that an advertised diet or exercise program is saying is wrong.
The ads will generally take some study, pull out some aspect of it, simplify that aspect to the point of deception, then market it to millions.
Somehow these ads become "medical fact".I don't know how one might solve these issues outside of making programming a full-body sport, but the concerns are legit, imo.
Exercise really can't be something you tack onto the end of your day.
It really should be part of the whole work experience, and there really aren't a lot of trivial solutions to that problem.And you're absolutely correct.
It comes down to a lifestyle change.
But there are a few things you can do that can improve your overall health.
For example, try changing the size of your dinner plates.
I had a buddy visit from England.
One of the first things he said when we sat down to dinner was that all the dinner plates in my house were enormous.
When the food was served he also informed that our portion sizes were enormous.
I thought nothing of putting half a roasted chicken, a mound of rice, vegetables and lots of gravy on my plate.
After the meal, I thought nothing of eating a "slice" of keylime pie.
He informed that the "slice" that I had for myself was what would serve as dessert for his family of four.Now I'm not a doctor, but for various purposes I have doctors poking me with needles and taking my weight all the time.
This information is straight from them.
But don't put too much faith in the doctors.
The ones who can tell you the most are the freaking life insurance folks.
Those bastards literally have it down to a science.
:D</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830418</id>
	<title>Re:Where's the part we can use?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263991980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>..how often do we need 5 min breaks...</p></div><p>A) One break for every 42 minutes of reading a Douglas Adams book.<br>B) The sum of network latency while playing WoW. For example, every 16.5min at 300ms, 50min at 100ms, 8.3hrs at 10ms. Because who wants to stop for a break when your latency is great?<br>C) At work, whenever the boss isn't looking.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>..how often do we need 5 min breaks...A ) One break for every 42 minutes of reading a Douglas Adams book.B ) The sum of network latency while playing WoW .
For example , every 16.5min at 300ms , 50min at 100ms , 8.3hrs at 10ms .
Because who wants to stop for a break when your latency is great ? C ) At work , whenever the boss is n't looking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ..how often do we need 5 min breaks...A) One break for every 42 minutes of reading a Douglas Adams book.B) The sum of network latency while playing WoW.
For example, every 16.5min at 300ms, 50min at 100ms, 8.3hrs at 10ms.
Because who wants to stop for a break when your latency is great?C) At work, whenever the boss isn't looking.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832548</id>
	<title>Min/Max your workout!</title>
	<author>twoallbeefpatties</author>
	<datestamp>1264005780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I first decided to start working out again, I just went to the gym, just did the usual stuff.  Did one chest exercise, one back exercise, etc., kept doing the same stuff twice a week or so.  Then after about a year of that, I started reading weightlifting forums a bit, learning about "split routines" where you only do one muscle group a day, spent a bunch of time trying to decide which individual exercises I could do in my little gym at the apartment complex, how to space them apart and when to do them, how to watch my time, when to have a couple of protein shakes, things like that.  I told friends that my compulsion toward planning out talent specs in WoW had spilled over into a compulsion to plan out my workout.</p><p>But man, it's worked.  When I pull out my workout log... and believe me, you want a log.  It's great to just be able to see that you did 6 reps of an exercise last week but you're doing 7 reps this week.  It's feedback that what you're doing actually works.  When I pull out my log, when I started about three months ago, I was doing 115 lbs. on the incline bench press machine, 4 sets, 6 reps each.  Last Saturday, I did 175 lbs., 4 sets, 6 reps each.  The improvement shows.</p><p>Seriously, take half the energy that you put into designing your last D&amp;D character and put that into putting together a workout plan.  You might be amazed to see that skill cross over a little into a skillset that geeks supposedly have no ability to take part in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I first decided to start working out again , I just went to the gym , just did the usual stuff .
Did one chest exercise , one back exercise , etc. , kept doing the same stuff twice a week or so .
Then after about a year of that , I started reading weightlifting forums a bit , learning about " split routines " where you only do one muscle group a day , spent a bunch of time trying to decide which individual exercises I could do in my little gym at the apartment complex , how to space them apart and when to do them , how to watch my time , when to have a couple of protein shakes , things like that .
I told friends that my compulsion toward planning out talent specs in WoW had spilled over into a compulsion to plan out my workout.But man , it 's worked .
When I pull out my workout log... and believe me , you want a log .
It 's great to just be able to see that you did 6 reps of an exercise last week but you 're doing 7 reps this week .
It 's feedback that what you 're doing actually works .
When I pull out my log , when I started about three months ago , I was doing 115 lbs .
on the incline bench press machine , 4 sets , 6 reps each .
Last Saturday , I did 175 lbs. , 4 sets , 6 reps each .
The improvement shows.Seriously , take half the energy that you put into designing your last D&amp;D character and put that into putting together a workout plan .
You might be amazed to see that skill cross over a little into a skillset that geeks supposedly have no ability to take part in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I first decided to start working out again, I just went to the gym, just did the usual stuff.
Did one chest exercise, one back exercise, etc., kept doing the same stuff twice a week or so.
Then after about a year of that, I started reading weightlifting forums a bit, learning about "split routines" where you only do one muscle group a day, spent a bunch of time trying to decide which individual exercises I could do in my little gym at the apartment complex, how to space them apart and when to do them, how to watch my time, when to have a couple of protein shakes, things like that.
I told friends that my compulsion toward planning out talent specs in WoW had spilled over into a compulsion to plan out my workout.But man, it's worked.
When I pull out my workout log... and believe me, you want a log.
It's great to just be able to see that you did 6 reps of an exercise last week but you're doing 7 reps this week.
It's feedback that what you're doing actually works.
When I pull out my log, when I started about three months ago, I was doing 115 lbs.
on the incline bench press machine, 4 sets, 6 reps each.
Last Saturday, I did 175 lbs., 4 sets, 6 reps each.
The improvement shows.Seriously, take half the energy that you put into designing your last D&amp;D character and put that into putting together a workout plan.
You might be amazed to see that skill cross over a little into a skillset that geeks supposedly have no ability to take part in.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30841634</id>
	<title>Re:Secret to life</title>
	<author>Lunzo</author>
	<datestamp>1264003140000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I rather live enjoying my time on my seat and sofa than force myself to write emails standing up.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
I don't have a chair thanks to cost cutting you insensitive clod!</p></div>
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<tokenext>I rather live enjoying my time on my seat and sofa than force myself to write emails standing up .
I do n't have a chair thanks to cost cutting you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I rather live enjoying my time on my seat and sofa than force myself to write emails standing up.
I don't have a chair thanks to cost cutting you insensitive clod!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830006</id>
	<title>A bit of disagreement.</title>
	<author>Jane Q. Public</author>
	<datestamp>1263987240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext>TFA actually does not make conclusions anything like what is written in OP. The differences may seem slight at first glance, but they are actually very major.</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA actually does not make conclusions anything like what is written in OP .
The differences may seem slight at first glance , but they are actually very major .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA actually does not make conclusions anything like what is written in OP.
The differences may seem slight at first glance, but they are actually very major.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831828</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1264002600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A little over a year ago, a month into my first job since graduation, I decided I was long overdue some exercise (I'm 24). I've always been a healthy weight, and I've never had trouble running up stairs, to catch a train, when I'm late, dancing in a nightclub etc, but I'd not done anything more than that since school. I knew that I didn't feel fit and energetic, even if I looked OK.</p><p>I also hate doing exercise for the sake of it. Playing sport for fun is OK, but I wanted something that would force me to do exercise as often as possible. Someone suggested I cycled to work, and lent me their spare bike. This was excellent: an hour's good exercise every day (2&times;30mins), and it was quicker, cheaper and more reliable than any other way of getting to work -- excellent incentive to continue.</p><p>For the first couple of weeks I was really tired when I got home -- I had only enough energy to cook something and then slob in front of the TV. But after the initial shock I seemed to adjust to it, and felt better in the evenings than I used to. After a month a few people commented that I looked healthier, and I definitely felt healthier.</p><p>For extra exercise I tried cycling to other towns (which has purpose: I can look at tourist stuff, and the countryside is pretty along the way). I also tried cycling to the coast (80km/50miles) but lost the map halfway. I really need a companion if I'm to do it again, it got a bit dull going alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A little over a year ago , a month into my first job since graduation , I decided I was long overdue some exercise ( I 'm 24 ) .
I 've always been a healthy weight , and I 've never had trouble running up stairs , to catch a train , when I 'm late , dancing in a nightclub etc , but I 'd not done anything more than that since school .
I knew that I did n't feel fit and energetic , even if I looked OK.I also hate doing exercise for the sake of it .
Playing sport for fun is OK , but I wanted something that would force me to do exercise as often as possible .
Someone suggested I cycled to work , and lent me their spare bike .
This was excellent : an hour 's good exercise every day ( 2   30mins ) , and it was quicker , cheaper and more reliable than any other way of getting to work -- excellent incentive to continue.For the first couple of weeks I was really tired when I got home -- I had only enough energy to cook something and then slob in front of the TV .
But after the initial shock I seemed to adjust to it , and felt better in the evenings than I used to .
After a month a few people commented that I looked healthier , and I definitely felt healthier.For extra exercise I tried cycling to other towns ( which has purpose : I can look at tourist stuff , and the countryside is pretty along the way ) .
I also tried cycling to the coast ( 80km/50miles ) but lost the map halfway .
I really need a companion if I 'm to do it again , it got a bit dull going alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A little over a year ago, a month into my first job since graduation, I decided I was long overdue some exercise (I'm 24).
I've always been a healthy weight, and I've never had trouble running up stairs, to catch a train, when I'm late, dancing in a nightclub etc, but I'd not done anything more than that since school.
I knew that I didn't feel fit and energetic, even if I looked OK.I also hate doing exercise for the sake of it.
Playing sport for fun is OK, but I wanted something that would force me to do exercise as often as possible.
Someone suggested I cycled to work, and lent me their spare bike.
This was excellent: an hour's good exercise every day (2×30mins), and it was quicker, cheaper and more reliable than any other way of getting to work -- excellent incentive to continue.For the first couple of weeks I was really tired when I got home -- I had only enough energy to cook something and then slob in front of the TV.
But after the initial shock I seemed to adjust to it, and felt better in the evenings than I used to.
After a month a few people commented that I looked healthier, and I definitely felt healthier.For extra exercise I tried cycling to other towns (which has purpose: I can look at tourist stuff, and the countryside is pretty along the way).
I also tried cycling to the coast (80km/50miles) but lost the map halfway.
I really need a companion if I'm to do it again, it got a bit dull going alone.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831976</id>
	<title>Why the hell do you link to the PRINT THIS PAGE?</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1264003200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Besides, what was god thinking - its boring to move...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Besides , what was god thinking - its boring to move.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Besides, what was god thinking - its boring to move...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30839062</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>Phoenixlol</author>
	<datestamp>1263987480000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>wtf, maybe someone pointed this out and I missed it but the summary doesn't seem very accurate.  I didn't see anything in the article implying experts warn that the excessively sedentary are running serious health risks, irrespective of how much exercise they get when they're not plonked behind a desk or lying on a sofa", but rather simply that the more TV you watch the worse your heart is.  It's ridiculous to imply that working out doesn't help.

FTFA: "EVERY hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18\%, an Australian study found."

1.  My risk of heart disease is at least 2,721,600\% what it was?  (watching TV one hour a day for 24 years, does not include my desk job)

2.  The less you excercise the less healthy you'll be!?!?!?!?  FUCK!</htmltext>
<tokenext>wtf , maybe someone pointed this out and I missed it but the summary does n't seem very accurate .
I did n't see anything in the article implying experts warn that the excessively sedentary are running serious health risks , irrespective of how much exercise they get when they 're not plonked behind a desk or lying on a sofa " , but rather simply that the more TV you watch the worse your heart is .
It 's ridiculous to imply that working out does n't help .
FTFA : " EVERY hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18 \ % , an Australian study found .
" 1 .
My risk of heart disease is at least 2,721,600 \ % what it was ?
( watching TV one hour a day for 24 years , does not include my desk job ) 2 .
The less you excercise the less healthy you 'll be ! ? ! ? ! ? ! ?
FUCK !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wtf, maybe someone pointed this out and I missed it but the summary doesn't seem very accurate.
I didn't see anything in the article implying experts warn that the excessively sedentary are running serious health risks, irrespective of how much exercise they get when they're not plonked behind a desk or lying on a sofa", but rather simply that the more TV you watch the worse your heart is.
It's ridiculous to imply that working out doesn't help.
FTFA: "EVERY hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18\%, an Australian study found.
"

1.
My risk of heart disease is at least 2,721,600\% what it was?
(watching TV one hour a day for 24 years, does not include my desk job)

2.
The less you excercise the less healthy you'll be!?!?!?!?
FUCK!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831324</id>
	<title>No causal link</title>
	<author>Thaddeus</author>
	<datestamp>1264000440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate reading about studies only in mass media outlets because of the lack of critical evaluation. Unfortunately the real study isn't showing up in the Circulation journal's past three issues and they never did give the complete title.</p><p>However, even the LA Times <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/12/science/la-sci-tv12-2010jan12" title="latimes.com">article</a> [latimes.com] states "researchers found a statistical relationship between long hours of TV viewing and a shortened life span, but the study did not go so far as to find a direct cause".</p><p>This means the results are interesting and the subject should be further evaluated in a controlled study, but are useless for practical purposes. We don't know if it was the sedentary behavior or something else, like the potato chips and soda that often go with watching TV. It may be that their conclusion is correct, but it's impossible to know from this type of study.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate reading about studies only in mass media outlets because of the lack of critical evaluation .
Unfortunately the real study is n't showing up in the Circulation journal 's past three issues and they never did give the complete title.However , even the LA Times article [ latimes.com ] states " researchers found a statistical relationship between long hours of TV viewing and a shortened life span , but the study did not go so far as to find a direct cause " .This means the results are interesting and the subject should be further evaluated in a controlled study , but are useless for practical purposes .
We do n't know if it was the sedentary behavior or something else , like the potato chips and soda that often go with watching TV .
It may be that their conclusion is correct , but it 's impossible to know from this type of study .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate reading about studies only in mass media outlets because of the lack of critical evaluation.
Unfortunately the real study isn't showing up in the Circulation journal's past three issues and they never did give the complete title.However, even the LA Times article [latimes.com] states "researchers found a statistical relationship between long hours of TV viewing and a shortened life span, but the study did not go so far as to find a direct cause".This means the results are interesting and the subject should be further evaluated in a controlled study, but are useless for practical purposes.
We don't know if it was the sedentary behavior or something else, like the potato chips and soda that often go with watching TV.
It may be that their conclusion is correct, but it's impossible to know from this type of study.</sentencetext>
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	<title>It is the statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263990180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most causes for increased mortality come from statistical studies. Ergo, it is the statistics that are the main cause, not the thing they make statistics of. If those pesky researchers would just stop making so many statistics, we all would live longer and happier!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most causes for increased mortality come from statistical studies .
Ergo , it is the statistics that are the main cause , not the thing they make statistics of .
If those pesky researchers would just stop making so many statistics , we all would live longer and happier !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most causes for increased mortality come from statistical studies.
Ergo, it is the statistics that are the main cause, not the thing they make statistics of.
If those pesky researchers would just stop making so many statistics, we all would live longer and happier!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835476</id>
	<title>Re:Secret to life</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264016580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess it depends on what you consider enjoyable.  Personally, I think being out of shape is enormously limiting, plus which your later years tend to suck if you haven't been taking care of your body.  Exercise helps me think more clearly and feel better.  And let's face it, to a large segment of the world, physical appearance matters; personally I think it's a bit shallow, but you might as well use evolutionary biology to your advantage.</p><p>Your mileage may vary, of course.  But the idea of sitting on the couch for huge segments of the day makes me shudder with dread.  I like being active.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess it depends on what you consider enjoyable .
Personally , I think being out of shape is enormously limiting , plus which your later years tend to suck if you have n't been taking care of your body .
Exercise helps me think more clearly and feel better .
And let 's face it , to a large segment of the world , physical appearance matters ; personally I think it 's a bit shallow , but you might as well use evolutionary biology to your advantage.Your mileage may vary , of course .
But the idea of sitting on the couch for huge segments of the day makes me shudder with dread .
I like being active .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess it depends on what you consider enjoyable.
Personally, I think being out of shape is enormously limiting, plus which your later years tend to suck if you haven't been taking care of your body.
Exercise helps me think more clearly and feel better.
And let's face it, to a large segment of the world, physical appearance matters; personally I think it's a bit shallow, but you might as well use evolutionary biology to your advantage.Your mileage may vary, of course.
But the idea of sitting on the couch for huge segments of the day makes me shudder with dread.
I like being active.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Great news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263995820000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I should be dead in no time by these figures. Who wants to be alive to serve in the FEMA slave camps in twenty or thirty years anyway?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I should be dead in no time by these figures .
Who wants to be alive to serve in the FEMA slave camps in twenty or thirty years anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I should be dead in no time by these figures.
Who wants to be alive to serve in the FEMA slave camps in twenty or thirty years anyway?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1263989880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You ride a bicycle? That requires sitting on the saddle!<br> <br>My god, man! Your doctors are clearly wrong, as this stufy proves you're dangerously close to death!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ride a bicycle ?
That requires sitting on the saddle !
My god , man !
Your doctors are clearly wrong , as this stufy proves you 're dangerously close to death !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You ride a bicycle?
That requires sitting on the saddle!
My god, man!
Your doctors are clearly wrong, as this stufy proves you're dangerously close to death!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830186</id>
	<title>Re:Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>jamesh</author>
	<datestamp>1263989460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>That bugged me when I first read it too... does it mean that if I sit down for 5 minutes a day then it doesn't matter how much exercise i'm doing for the rest of the 86395 minutes in the day?</p><p>I haven't bothered, but I think that once you untangle all the crap from the article and resolve the contradictions the message is basically "get off your bum and go for a walk". I also expect you'd find a reference to chewbacca and wookies too... it just doesn't make sense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That bugged me when I first read it too... does it mean that if I sit down for 5 minutes a day then it does n't matter how much exercise i 'm doing for the rest of the 86395 minutes in the day ? I have n't bothered , but I think that once you untangle all the crap from the article and resolve the contradictions the message is basically " get off your bum and go for a walk " .
I also expect you 'd find a reference to chewbacca and wookies too... it just does n't make sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That bugged me when I first read it too... does it mean that if I sit down for 5 minutes a day then it doesn't matter how much exercise i'm doing for the rest of the 86395 minutes in the day?I haven't bothered, but I think that once you untangle all the crap from the article and resolve the contradictions the message is basically "get off your bum and go for a walk".
I also expect you'd find a reference to chewbacca and wookies too... it just doesn't make sense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835326</id>
	<title>Re:Medical Advice from the Economic Times?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264016040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If your baseline risk of death from heart disease is 1 in a million, 24 hours of TV watching raises that to 0.000001 * (1.18^24) = 0.000053.  So, 1 in 19,000.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If your baseline risk of death from heart disease is 1 in a million , 24 hours of TV watching raises that to 0.000001 * ( 1.18 ^ 24 ) = 0.000053 .
So , 1 in 19,000 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your baseline risk of death from heart disease is 1 in a million, 24 hours of TV watching raises that to 0.000001 * (1.18^24) = 0.000053.
So, 1 in 19,000.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835632</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264017120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For extra exercise I tried cycling to other towns (which has purpose: I can look at tourist stuff, and the countryside is pretty along the way).</p></div><p>It's sad that even though you now seem to enjoy exercise 'for the sake of it', which is natural and healthy attitude, you still cling to the notion that you have to justify it as a practical endeavour.  Please stop doing this.</p></div>
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<tokenext>For extra exercise I tried cycling to other towns ( which has purpose : I can look at tourist stuff , and the countryside is pretty along the way ) .It 's sad that even though you now seem to enjoy exercise 'for the sake of it ' , which is natural and healthy attitude , you still cling to the notion that you have to justify it as a practical endeavour .
Please stop doing this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For extra exercise I tried cycling to other towns (which has purpose: I can look at tourist stuff, and the countryside is pretty along the way).It's sad that even though you now seem to enjoy exercise 'for the sake of it', which is natural and healthy attitude, you still cling to the notion that you have to justify it as a practical endeavour.
Please stop doing this.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830624</id>
	<title>Irrelevant!</title>
	<author>djpretzel</author>
	<datestamp>1263994680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Look, Ray Kurzweil promised me that in ten years we'll all just be brains in jars hooked up to virtual intarwebs of nanomachines, so this whole exercise thing is moot; the singularity is sedentary.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Look , Ray Kurzweil promised me that in ten years we 'll all just be brains in jars hooked up to virtual intarwebs of nanomachines , so this whole exercise thing is moot ; the singularity is sedentary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look, Ray Kurzweil promised me that in ten years we'll all just be brains in jars hooked up to virtual intarwebs of nanomachines, so this whole exercise thing is moot; the singularity is sedentary.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830048</id>
	<title>Re:I'll stay in my sofa</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263987780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your subject:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I'll stay in my sofa</p></div><p> <b>In</b> your sofa? Is that an Americanism/Anglicism or do we now have LOLCATs posting on slashdot?</p></div>
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<tokenext>Your subject : I 'll stay in my sofa In your sofa ?
Is that an Americanism/Anglicism or do we now have LOLCATs posting on slashdot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your subject:I'll stay in my sofa In your sofa?
Is that an Americanism/Anglicism or do we now have LOLCATs posting on slashdot?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834068</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264011120000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>0.0001\% * 1.18^8 = 0.000376\%</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>0.0001 \ % * 1.18 ^ 8 = 0.000376 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>0.0001\% * 1.18^8 = 0.000376\%</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832506</id>
	<title>Really...it can be life threatening</title>
	<author>Solo-Malee</author>
	<datestamp>1264005600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To all those laughing and making jokes about this...

Two years ago I got a DVT as a result of too long sitting down. This is a potentially life threating problem if not spotted (As well as being very painful!)

If you get a feeling of cramp in your calf muscle that doesn't go away and is even worse when walking that you can't put down to sport or a muscle strain, go see a doctor immediately!

I suffered for nearly 10 days with this and then had the complication of a lung embolism as a result (That's the life threatening part). I ended up in hospital for a week hardly able to breathe and on morphine for the lung pain. I then had to spend 6 months off work recovering.

And watch out, I found that some doctors are not good at identifying this problem.

Take this seriously...it is not a joke. Now get up and walk around!</htmltext>
<tokenext>To all those laughing and making jokes about this.. . Two years ago I got a DVT as a result of too long sitting down .
This is a potentially life threating problem if not spotted ( As well as being very painful !
) If you get a feeling of cramp in your calf muscle that does n't go away and is even worse when walking that you ca n't put down to sport or a muscle strain , go see a doctor immediately !
I suffered for nearly 10 days with this and then had the complication of a lung embolism as a result ( That 's the life threatening part ) .
I ended up in hospital for a week hardly able to breathe and on morphine for the lung pain .
I then had to spend 6 months off work recovering .
And watch out , I found that some doctors are not good at identifying this problem .
Take this seriously...it is not a joke .
Now get up and walk around !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To all those laughing and making jokes about this...

Two years ago I got a DVT as a result of too long sitting down.
This is a potentially life threating problem if not spotted (As well as being very painful!
)

If you get a feeling of cramp in your calf muscle that doesn't go away and is even worse when walking that you can't put down to sport or a muscle strain, go see a doctor immediately!
I suffered for nearly 10 days with this and then had the complication of a lung embolism as a result (That's the life threatening part).
I ended up in hospital for a week hardly able to breathe and on morphine for the lung pain.
I then had to spend 6 months off work recovering.
And watch out, I found that some doctors are not good at identifying this problem.
Take this seriously...it is not a joke.
Now get up and walk around!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830772</id>
	<title>Treadmill desk</title>
	<author>Richard W.M. Jones</author>
	<datestamp>1263996600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've <a href="http://rwmj.wordpress.com/?s=treadmill" title="wordpress.com">just started using</a> [wordpress.com] a treadmill desk.
Unfortunately I haven't got the level quite right yet, so it's triggering my RSI, but once I get that
fixed it does seem to be a good solution to the exercise problem.
</p><p>
I've learned a lot about <a href="http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010/01/14/treadmill-desk-part-4/" title="wordpress.com">radio frequency interference from cheap treadmills</a> [wordpress.com] too<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...
</p><p>Rich.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've just started using [ wordpress.com ] a treadmill desk .
Unfortunately I have n't got the level quite right yet , so it 's triggering my RSI , but once I get that fixed it does seem to be a good solution to the exercise problem .
I 've learned a lot about radio frequency interference from cheap treadmills [ wordpress.com ] too .. . Rich .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've just started using [wordpress.com] a treadmill desk.
Unfortunately I haven't got the level quite right yet, so it's triggering my RSI, but once I get that
fixed it does seem to be a good solution to the exercise problem.
I've learned a lot about radio frequency interference from cheap treadmills [wordpress.com] too ...
Rich.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30836014</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>buswolley</author>
	<datestamp>1264018680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live in Davis, CA fools!
<a href="http://daviswiki.org/Bicycling" title="daviswiki.org">http://daviswiki.org/Bicycling</a> [daviswiki.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Davis , CA fools !
http : //daviswiki.org/Bicycling [ daviswiki.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Davis, CA fools!
http://daviswiki.org/Bicycling [daviswiki.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832360</id>
	<title>Re:Too much is bad for you</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1264005060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"All things in moderation." Drinking a glass or two of wine every day extends lifespan. Drink a bottle or two every day and you'll ruin your liver. And not only can you drown, but you can die from drinking too much water at a time; just last year (maybe the one before last) there was an outcry about a radio contest to win a wii where the person who drank the most water won. The winner died, the radio station was sued, and the people responsible were fired.</p><p>Eat too much and you'll die. Eat too little and you'll die.</p><p>Hell, even having too many years will kill you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" All things in moderation .
" Drinking a glass or two of wine every day extends lifespan .
Drink a bottle or two every day and you 'll ruin your liver .
And not only can you drown , but you can die from drinking too much water at a time ; just last year ( maybe the one before last ) there was an outcry about a radio contest to win a wii where the person who drank the most water won .
The winner died , the radio station was sued , and the people responsible were fired.Eat too much and you 'll die .
Eat too little and you 'll die.Hell , even having too many years will kill you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"All things in moderation.
" Drinking a glass or two of wine every day extends lifespan.
Drink a bottle or two every day and you'll ruin your liver.
And not only can you drown, but you can die from drinking too much water at a time; just last year (maybe the one before last) there was an outcry about a radio contest to win a wii where the person who drank the most water won.
The winner died, the radio station was sued, and the people responsible were fired.Eat too much and you'll die.
Eat too little and you'll die.Hell, even having too many years will kill you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831196</id>
	<title>I would finish this post</title>
	<author>SolarStorm</author>
	<datestamp>1263999600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But I have to go outside and play now</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I have to go outside and play now</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I have to go outside and play now</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834744</id>
	<title>Stick a Treadmill in that Cubicle</title>
	<author>aaaantoine</author>
	<datestamp>1264013820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stick a treadmill in that cubicle.</p><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treadmill\_Desk" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treadmill\_Desk</a> [wikipedia.org] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stick a treadmill in that cubicle .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treadmill \ _Desk [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stick a treadmill in that cubicle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treadmill\_Desk [wikipedia.org] </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834584</id>
	<title>Re:One reason why not moving is making you sick:</title>
	<author>DarkMage0707077</author>
	<datestamp>1264013100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We geeks have a hard time with sports. But I got a little mind-twist for you: How about you see your body as this extremely advanced machine that it is. And you want to tune it, hack it, and keep it running nicely, just like do with your (really much <em>much</em> more primitive computer).</p></div><p>Great idea! I'll just treat it like I'm upgrading my computer! Quick, someone give me a hacksaw, I want to swap out my arms for the "Chiseled Weight Lifter" models...!</p><p>In all seriousness, this idea fails because of the time difference. For someone who knows what they're doing, it takes about a day or two at most to build/upgrade a typical PC (faster if you just go buy a pre-made one). For someone to get from "flabby" to "fantastic" (or even just "fit") it would take at least a month, possibly more depending on how bad off they are. Someone using this mindset would probably be put into a short-term perspective on working out, and would then likely be disappointed later when it doesn't happen.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I should sell stickers, saying &ldquo;My other computer... is my body!&rdquo;.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div><p>
Not bad, actually. Might appeal to the small-but-growing Bodybuilding Geek demographic.</p></div>
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<tokenext>We geeks have a hard time with sports .
But I got a little mind-twist for you : How about you see your body as this extremely advanced machine that it is .
And you want to tune it , hack it , and keep it running nicely , just like do with your ( really much much more primitive computer ) .Great idea !
I 'll just treat it like I 'm upgrading my computer !
Quick , someone give me a hacksaw , I want to swap out my arms for the " Chiseled Weight Lifter " models... ! In all seriousness , this idea fails because of the time difference .
For someone who knows what they 're doing , it takes about a day or two at most to build/upgrade a typical PC ( faster if you just go buy a pre-made one ) .
For someone to get from " flabby " to " fantastic " ( or even just " fit " ) it would take at least a month , possibly more depending on how bad off they are .
Someone using this mindset would probably be put into a short-term perspective on working out , and would then likely be disappointed later when it does n't happen.I should sell stickers , saying    My other computer... is my body !    .
; ) Not bad , actually .
Might appeal to the small-but-growing Bodybuilding Geek demographic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We geeks have a hard time with sports.
But I got a little mind-twist for you: How about you see your body as this extremely advanced machine that it is.
And you want to tune it, hack it, and keep it running nicely, just like do with your (really much much more primitive computer).Great idea!
I'll just treat it like I'm upgrading my computer!
Quick, someone give me a hacksaw, I want to swap out my arms for the "Chiseled Weight Lifter" models...!In all seriousness, this idea fails because of the time difference.
For someone who knows what they're doing, it takes about a day or two at most to build/upgrade a typical PC (faster if you just go buy a pre-made one).
For someone to get from "flabby" to "fantastic" (or even just "fit") it would take at least a month, possibly more depending on how bad off they are.
Someone using this mindset would probably be put into a short-term perspective on working out, and would then likely be disappointed later when it doesn't happen.I should sell stickers, saying “My other computer... is my body!”.
;)
Not bad, actually.
Might appeal to the small-but-growing Bodybuilding Geek demographic.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834016</id>
	<title>Re:Synonyms</title>
	<author>DrgnDancer</author>
	<datestamp>1264010880000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you're missing a few important details here...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day? That's right, you're in pain. Pain is your body's way of saying "stop that, you fool."</p></div><p>But if you keep doing it for a few weeks it stops hurting.  Like anything else your body has to get used to exercise.  Moderate discomfort from lactic acid build-up and muscle building is not the same as debilitating pain from injury.  Creation and destruction are linked.  We have to damage muscles slightly in order to build them.  The trick is not to damage them too much at once.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I go to "working man's" bars where construstion workers hang out. These guys spend all day in heavy exersize, and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me. If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad?</p></div><p>You are not considering other contributing factors.  These men aren't exercising in a gym all day; they're working outside in the sun (skin damage) and wind (dries skin, which in the long term is skin damage). They do dangerous work which is more likely to injure them either through over-strain of muscles or simply being hit, cut, burned or otherwise beat up by job site hazards.  They are culturally more likely to smoke, and certainly more likely to be be exposed to second hand smoke (since workplace smoking laws don't affect uncompleted buildings) which is bad for the skin.  If they avoid non-exercise related risk factors (Smoking, excessive drinking, poor diet, extreme stress caused by trying to raise a family on a "workman's" salary), and work related risk factors (injuries, particle inhalation, etc) then they are most likely healthier than you on the inside, regardless of whether their skin looks like old leather.  Even then, it's possible that you've won the genetic lottery and they haven't so your heart is in better shape despite everything.  Exercise is just one factor in health.  It's good for you, but just because you run 5 miles a day doesn't mean you won't keel over from colon cancer next year anyway.</p><p>The nice thing about exercise is that it's one of the controllable risk factors.  I can choose to exercise more or not.  I can, to an extent, control my diet, or not smoke.  I can't do a lot about air quality (short of moving), genetic factors, or job related risk (I could change jobs, maybe, but not if I lack the skills to do so).</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The notion that exersize, especially exersize that results in sore muscles is good for you is an excuse by drug addled jocks. The fact that it's your body producing the drug doesn't matter -- it's a drug addiction, and "it's good for you" is an excuse to keep getting high.</p></div><p>It's all a matter of perspective.  What causes sore muscles?  A combination of mild damage to the muscles (which will result in eventual strengthening) and lactic acid build up from anaerobic respiration.  In either case, building those muscles will increase their maximum ability to work with stress and prevent pain in the future.  You say walking is fine, because it doesn't result in sore muscles, but what if you walked all day?  What if you were in worse shape than you are now?  I know a very obese person for whom walking around the block a few times *does* result in sore muscles.  Does that mean they should not do even so little exercise?  Conversely, I can run for 15 or 20 minutes without any sore muscles at all ( I used to be able to go for much longer with no negative affects, but I've just restarted my exercise program after a long break).  So I should run, but not very far or fast?</p><p>Also your argument about running endorphins is completely disingenuous.  You say that pain is your body's natural way to tell you that you to stop doing something, but don't accept that equally natural endorphins might be your body's way to tell you to keep doing something?  It works both ways after all.  If your body uses unpleasant stimuli to tell you to stop something bad, then pleasant stimuli are probably designed to keep you doing something good, yes?</p></div>
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<tokenext>I think you 're missing a few important details here...Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day ?
That 's right , you 're in pain .
Pain is your body 's way of saying " stop that , you fool .
" But if you keep doing it for a few weeks it stops hurting .
Like anything else your body has to get used to exercise .
Moderate discomfort from lactic acid build-up and muscle building is not the same as debilitating pain from injury .
Creation and destruction are linked .
We have to damage muscles slightly in order to build them .
The trick is not to damage them too much at once.I go to " working man 's " bars where construstion workers hang out .
These guys spend all day in heavy exersize , and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me .
If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad ? You are not considering other contributing factors .
These men are n't exercising in a gym all day ; they 're working outside in the sun ( skin damage ) and wind ( dries skin , which in the long term is skin damage ) .
They do dangerous work which is more likely to injure them either through over-strain of muscles or simply being hit , cut , burned or otherwise beat up by job site hazards .
They are culturally more likely to smoke , and certainly more likely to be be exposed to second hand smoke ( since workplace smoking laws do n't affect uncompleted buildings ) which is bad for the skin .
If they avoid non-exercise related risk factors ( Smoking , excessive drinking , poor diet , extreme stress caused by trying to raise a family on a " workman 's " salary ) , and work related risk factors ( injuries , particle inhalation , etc ) then they are most likely healthier than you on the inside , regardless of whether their skin looks like old leather .
Even then , it 's possible that you 've won the genetic lottery and they have n't so your heart is in better shape despite everything .
Exercise is just one factor in health .
It 's good for you , but just because you run 5 miles a day does n't mean you wo n't keel over from colon cancer next year anyway.The nice thing about exercise is that it 's one of the controllable risk factors .
I can choose to exercise more or not .
I can , to an extent , control my diet , or not smoke .
I ca n't do a lot about air quality ( short of moving ) , genetic factors , or job related risk ( I could change jobs , maybe , but not if I lack the skills to do so ) .The notion that exersize , especially exersize that results in sore muscles is good for you is an excuse by drug addled jocks .
The fact that it 's your body producing the drug does n't matter -- it 's a drug addiction , and " it 's good for you " is an excuse to keep getting high.It 's all a matter of perspective .
What causes sore muscles ?
A combination of mild damage to the muscles ( which will result in eventual strengthening ) and lactic acid build up from anaerobic respiration .
In either case , building those muscles will increase their maximum ability to work with stress and prevent pain in the future .
You say walking is fine , because it does n't result in sore muscles , but what if you walked all day ?
What if you were in worse shape than you are now ?
I know a very obese person for whom walking around the block a few times * does * result in sore muscles .
Does that mean they should not do even so little exercise ?
Conversely , I can run for 15 or 20 minutes without any sore muscles at all ( I used to be able to go for much longer with no negative affects , but I 've just restarted my exercise program after a long break ) .
So I should run , but not very far or fast ? Also your argument about running endorphins is completely disingenuous .
You say that pain is your body 's natural way to tell you that you to stop doing something , but do n't accept that equally natural endorphins might be your body 's way to tell you to keep doing something ?
It works both ways after all .
If your body uses unpleasant stimuli to tell you to stop something bad , then pleasant stimuli are probably designed to keep you doing something good , yes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you're missing a few important details here...Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day?
That's right, you're in pain.
Pain is your body's way of saying "stop that, you fool.
"But if you keep doing it for a few weeks it stops hurting.
Like anything else your body has to get used to exercise.
Moderate discomfort from lactic acid build-up and muscle building is not the same as debilitating pain from injury.
Creation and destruction are linked.
We have to damage muscles slightly in order to build them.
The trick is not to damage them too much at once.I go to "working man's" bars where construstion workers hang out.
These guys spend all day in heavy exersize, and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me.
If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad?You are not considering other contributing factors.
These men aren't exercising in a gym all day; they're working outside in the sun (skin damage) and wind (dries skin, which in the long term is skin damage).
They do dangerous work which is more likely to injure them either through over-strain of muscles or simply being hit, cut, burned or otherwise beat up by job site hazards.
They are culturally more likely to smoke, and certainly more likely to be be exposed to second hand smoke (since workplace smoking laws don't affect uncompleted buildings) which is bad for the skin.
If they avoid non-exercise related risk factors (Smoking, excessive drinking, poor diet, extreme stress caused by trying to raise a family on a "workman's" salary), and work related risk factors (injuries, particle inhalation, etc) then they are most likely healthier than you on the inside, regardless of whether their skin looks like old leather.
Even then, it's possible that you've won the genetic lottery and they haven't so your heart is in better shape despite everything.
Exercise is just one factor in health.
It's good for you, but just because you run 5 miles a day doesn't mean you won't keel over from colon cancer next year anyway.The nice thing about exercise is that it's one of the controllable risk factors.
I can choose to exercise more or not.
I can, to an extent, control my diet, or not smoke.
I can't do a lot about air quality (short of moving), genetic factors, or job related risk (I could change jobs, maybe, but not if I lack the skills to do so).The notion that exersize, especially exersize that results in sore muscles is good for you is an excuse by drug addled jocks.
The fact that it's your body producing the drug doesn't matter -- it's a drug addiction, and "it's good for you" is an excuse to keep getting high.It's all a matter of perspective.
What causes sore muscles?
A combination of mild damage to the muscles (which will result in eventual strengthening) and lactic acid build up from anaerobic respiration.
In either case, building those muscles will increase their maximum ability to work with stress and prevent pain in the future.
You say walking is fine, because it doesn't result in sore muscles, but what if you walked all day?
What if you were in worse shape than you are now?
I know a very obese person for whom walking around the block a few times *does* result in sore muscles.
Does that mean they should not do even so little exercise?
Conversely, I can run for 15 or 20 minutes without any sore muscles at all ( I used to be able to go for much longer with no negative affects, but I've just restarted my exercise program after a long break).
So I should run, but not very far or fast?Also your argument about running endorphins is completely disingenuous.
You say that pain is your body's natural way to tell you that you to stop doing something, but don't accept that equally natural endorphins might be your body's way to tell you to keep doing something?
It works both ways after all.
If your body uses unpleasant stimuli to tell you to stop something bad, then pleasant stimuli are probably designed to keep you doing something good, yes?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831050</id>
	<title>I can vouch for that</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1263998820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being a hardcore bodybuilder, I can vouch for this tidbit. The early part of my life was very physical, and I had a job in construction, also working out. Then in my early 30s, I decided to trade careers and go for computer programming. I never stopped working out, and still do with enough energy and intensity to make everybody at the gym scared of working out with me, however, I have noticed that</p><p>a) my body type has changed...the way I sit all day at the computer makes for a hip stress that is totally different, and has slowly changed my hip structure over the years.... as well my overall physical performance has changed somewhat, even though I can still lift the same weights, and yes age is also a factor here, but I noticed that my wrists are not as strong as they used to be, because of the prolonged typing.</p><p>b)my cardio has slowly decreased over the years, yes I can still run 45 minutes although with difficulty, at a high level on the treadmill, I noticed that my waning cardio makes it hard to work out like I used to, I still push past it, but notice that it takes more out of me.</p><p>Again, yes old age comes and gives you these gifts for free , but I am not that old, and know others at the same level, same age, same diet, same exercise regiment that have none of the signs I have, is it also their overall environment, and gene pool...maybe, but when I get up from sitting too long, and feel it in my hips and knees....not that I complain about it, just that I notice it....i realize the importance of keeping your body in motion.</p><p>The hip area that I talked about seems to have changed in many ways, size , tilt, and even stress points. I am certain that when I was at the beginning of my computer career, I would still take a lot of walks everywhere, because I had to, so sitting was complimented by standing and walking, but now I have this job where I have all I need at my desk, and no need to walk, I sometimes have to find excuses to take one....</p><p>just my observations..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being a hardcore bodybuilder , I can vouch for this tidbit .
The early part of my life was very physical , and I had a job in construction , also working out .
Then in my early 30s , I decided to trade careers and go for computer programming .
I never stopped working out , and still do with enough energy and intensity to make everybody at the gym scared of working out with me , however , I have noticed thata ) my body type has changed...the way I sit all day at the computer makes for a hip stress that is totally different , and has slowly changed my hip structure over the years.... as well my overall physical performance has changed somewhat , even though I can still lift the same weights , and yes age is also a factor here , but I noticed that my wrists are not as strong as they used to be , because of the prolonged typing.b ) my cardio has slowly decreased over the years , yes I can still run 45 minutes although with difficulty , at a high level on the treadmill , I noticed that my waning cardio makes it hard to work out like I used to , I still push past it , but notice that it takes more out of me.Again , yes old age comes and gives you these gifts for free , but I am not that old , and know others at the same level , same age , same diet , same exercise regiment that have none of the signs I have , is it also their overall environment , and gene pool...maybe , but when I get up from sitting too long , and feel it in my hips and knees....not that I complain about it , just that I notice it....i realize the importance of keeping your body in motion.The hip area that I talked about seems to have changed in many ways , size , tilt , and even stress points .
I am certain that when I was at the beginning of my computer career , I would still take a lot of walks everywhere , because I had to , so sitting was complimented by standing and walking , but now I have this job where I have all I need at my desk , and no need to walk , I sometimes have to find excuses to take one....just my observations. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being a hardcore bodybuilder, I can vouch for this tidbit.
The early part of my life was very physical, and I had a job in construction, also working out.
Then in my early 30s, I decided to trade careers and go for computer programming.
I never stopped working out, and still do with enough energy and intensity to make everybody at the gym scared of working out with me, however, I have noticed thata) my body type has changed...the way I sit all day at the computer makes for a hip stress that is totally different, and has slowly changed my hip structure over the years.... as well my overall physical performance has changed somewhat, even though I can still lift the same weights, and yes age is also a factor here, but I noticed that my wrists are not as strong as they used to be, because of the prolonged typing.b)my cardio has slowly decreased over the years, yes I can still run 45 minutes although with difficulty, at a high level on the treadmill, I noticed that my waning cardio makes it hard to work out like I used to, I still push past it, but notice that it takes more out of me.Again, yes old age comes and gives you these gifts for free , but I am not that old, and know others at the same level, same age, same diet, same exercise regiment that have none of the signs I have, is it also their overall environment, and gene pool...maybe, but when I get up from sitting too long, and feel it in my hips and knees....not that I complain about it, just that I notice it....i realize the importance of keeping your body in motion.The hip area that I talked about seems to have changed in many ways, size , tilt, and even stress points.
I am certain that when I was at the beginning of my computer career, I would still take a lot of walks everywhere, because I had to, so sitting was complimented by standing and walking, but now I have this job where I have all I need at my desk, and no need to walk, I sometimes have to find excuses to take one....just my observations..</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834484</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>lupinstel</author>
	<datestamp>1264012560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thats ok, the caffeine in Mountain Dew elevates your heart rate so it is like working out.  But remember that you need to keep it elevated for at least 30 minutes to get any benefit.  May I suggest a 2 liter and a straw.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats ok , the caffeine in Mountain Dew elevates your heart rate so it is like working out .
But remember that you need to keep it elevated for at least 30 minutes to get any benefit .
May I suggest a 2 liter and a straw .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats ok, the caffeine in Mountain Dew elevates your heart rate so it is like working out.
But remember that you need to keep it elevated for at least 30 minutes to get any benefit.
May I suggest a 2 liter and a straw.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830520</id>
	<title>Secret to life</title>
	<author>Jesus IS the Devil</author>
	<datestamp>1263993360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alright, here's a little secret for all of you:</p><p>Everyone dies, once.</p><p>I rather live enjoying my time on my seat and sofa than force myself to write emails standing up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alright , here 's a little secret for all of you : Everyone dies , once.I rather live enjoying my time on my seat and sofa than force myself to write emails standing up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alright, here's a little secret for all of you:Everyone dies, once.I rather live enjoying my time on my seat and sofa than force myself to write emails standing up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829936</id>
	<title>Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263986220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Ant tips the <b>week-old news</b> that sitting down too much is not good for you, even if you are <b>otherwise fit</b>.</i>
<br> <br>
Well, firstly, I thought that anyone who (was) is sitting at a desk for hours each day would intuitively know that. So much for the news.
<br> <br>
Secondly, if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day, you are not fit.
<br> <br>
But I am sure that the vast majority indeed needs expert advice to realize the obvious.
<br> <br>
CC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ant tips the week-old news that sitting down too much is not good for you , even if you are otherwise fit .
Well , firstly , I thought that anyone who ( was ) is sitting at a desk for hours each day would intuitively know that .
So much for the news .
Secondly , if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day , you are not fit .
But I am sure that the vast majority indeed needs expert advice to realize the obvious .
CC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ant tips the week-old news that sitting down too much is not good for you, even if you are otherwise fit.
Well, firstly, I thought that anyone who (was) is sitting at a desk for hours each day would intuitively know that.
So much for the news.
Secondly, if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day, you are not fit.
But I am sure that the vast majority indeed needs expert advice to realize the obvious.
CC.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830078</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263988140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you are wrong, if the normal chance of dying due to heart attack is 0.0001\%, then watching TV 8 hours per day will make it 0.000001*(1+0.18*8)= 0.000244\%</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you are wrong , if the normal chance of dying due to heart attack is 0.0001 \ % , then watching TV 8 hours per day will make it 0.000001 * ( 1 + 0.18 * 8 ) = 0.000244 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you are wrong, if the normal chance of dying due to heart attack is 0.0001\%, then watching TV 8 hours per day will make it 0.000001*(1+0.18*8)= 0.000244\%</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830238</id>
	<title>It's OK...</title>
	<author>denzacar</author>
	<datestamp>1263990000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That only counts if you live in the Southern Hemisphere.<br>Cause obviously, we are not about 51684\%* dead here up in the Northern part of the globe. Yet.</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>* Assuming that an average slashdotter has sat for at least** 6 hours a day in front of a screen or behind a desk for the last 20 years.<br>**Yes, yes, I know. 6 hours is way too optimistic for the slashdot crowd. That is why I said "at least".</tt></p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That only counts if you live in the Southern Hemisphere.Cause obviously , we are not about 51684 \ % * dead here up in the Northern part of the globe .
Yet. * Assuming that an average slashdotter has sat for at least * * 6 hours a day in front of a screen or behind a desk for the last 20 years .
* * Yes , yes , I know .
6 hours is way too optimistic for the slashdot crowd .
That is why I said " at least " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That only counts if you live in the Southern Hemisphere.Cause obviously, we are not about 51684\%* dead here up in the Northern part of the globe.
Yet. * Assuming that an average slashdotter has sat for at least** 6 hours a day in front of a screen or behind a desk for the last 20 years.
**Yes, yes, I know.
6 hours is way too optimistic for the slashdot crowd.
That is why I said "at least". 
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834268</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1264011780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One other thing (since I replied to your post already). I stopped buying replacements for broken items and stopped paying handymen/mechanics these past two years. I do all my own maintenance on my vehicles as well as around the house. Find yourself a good 'fix it yourself' manual (good ones have exploded diagrams of most home appliances, like dishwashers, washing machines, etc.) and start collecting some tools. Start doing your own maintenance on everything (even the stuff that still works but could be better) unless of course it is dangerous or requires some specialized hydraulic jack or something. This has two advantages. First, it stimulates your mind (just like coding or engineering as a hobby does). Secondly, it puts you on a first name basis with your Sears and Home Depot staff, which make for some great deals and friends. Finally, the reasons to do it are A) you save money, B) your upper body (forceps, wrists, fingers, etc.) start toning and and getting stronger, and C) you build your confidence. Seriously, maintenance as a hobby is good stuff, and quite fulfilling. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a toaster to go debug.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One other thing ( since I replied to your post already ) .
I stopped buying replacements for broken items and stopped paying handymen/mechanics these past two years .
I do all my own maintenance on my vehicles as well as around the house .
Find yourself a good 'fix it yourself ' manual ( good ones have exploded diagrams of most home appliances , like dishwashers , washing machines , etc .
) and start collecting some tools .
Start doing your own maintenance on everything ( even the stuff that still works but could be better ) unless of course it is dangerous or requires some specialized hydraulic jack or something .
This has two advantages .
First , it stimulates your mind ( just like coding or engineering as a hobby does ) .
Secondly , it puts you on a first name basis with your Sears and Home Depot staff , which make for some great deals and friends .
Finally , the reasons to do it are A ) you save money , B ) your upper body ( forceps , wrists , fingers , etc .
) start toning and and getting stronger , and C ) you build your confidence .
Seriously , maintenance as a hobby is good stuff , and quite fulfilling .
Now , if you 'll excuse me , I have a toaster to go debug .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One other thing (since I replied to your post already).
I stopped buying replacements for broken items and stopped paying handymen/mechanics these past two years.
I do all my own maintenance on my vehicles as well as around the house.
Find yourself a good 'fix it yourself' manual (good ones have exploded diagrams of most home appliances, like dishwashers, washing machines, etc.
) and start collecting some tools.
Start doing your own maintenance on everything (even the stuff that still works but could be better) unless of course it is dangerous or requires some specialized hydraulic jack or something.
This has two advantages.
First, it stimulates your mind (just like coding or engineering as a hobby does).
Secondly, it puts you on a first name basis with your Sears and Home Depot staff, which make for some great deals and friends.
Finally, the reasons to do it are A) you save money, B) your upper body (forceps, wrists, fingers, etc.
) start toning and and getting stronger, and C) you build your confidence.
Seriously, maintenance as a hobby is good stuff, and quite fulfilling.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a toaster to go debug.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832028</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>greyline</author>
	<datestamp>1264003440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Occasionally, I will shuffle my way over to my pantry from my computer to procure another bag of Cheetos and perhaps a Mnt Dew Code Red. Every now and then, I'll also have to empty the used bottles of Mnt Dew of urine too. My standing up and moving around requirements are thus securely met.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Occasionally , I will shuffle my way over to my pantry from my computer to procure another bag of Cheetos and perhaps a Mnt Dew Code Red .
Every now and then , I 'll also have to empty the used bottles of Mnt Dew of urine too .
My standing up and moving around requirements are thus securely met .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Occasionally, I will shuffle my way over to my pantry from my computer to procure another bag of Cheetos and perhaps a Mnt Dew Code Red.
Every now and then, I'll also have to empty the used bottles of Mnt Dew of urine too.
My standing up and moving around requirements are thus securely met.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30842364</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>st0nes</author>
	<datestamp>1264010100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I don't know how one might solve these issues outside of making programming a full-body sport</p></div></blockquote><p>

It's important to take a break at least once an hour and spend 5 minutes doing something else.  Our offices are above the warehouse which is 200m long.  Every hour I suspend programming activities and walk to the end of the warehouse and back.  Apart from getting the blood flowing (how many programmers succumb to economy class syndrome?) it also gives my eyes a chance to focus on something more than two feet away.<br> <br>

Incidentally, we have two fat girls in our team who don't lift their enourmous arses off their suffering chairs all day except to go to the canteen to consume vast mounds of chips.  We work one floor up and they take the lift.  They whine that their obesity is caused by glandular problems, but we know better: a combination of gluttony and laziness will do it every time.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I do n't know how one might solve these issues outside of making programming a full-body sport It 's important to take a break at least once an hour and spend 5 minutes doing something else .
Our offices are above the warehouse which is 200m long .
Every hour I suspend programming activities and walk to the end of the warehouse and back .
Apart from getting the blood flowing ( how many programmers succumb to economy class syndrome ?
) it also gives my eyes a chance to focus on something more than two feet away .
Incidentally , we have two fat girls in our team who do n't lift their enourmous arses off their suffering chairs all day except to go to the canteen to consume vast mounds of chips .
We work one floor up and they take the lift .
They whine that their obesity is caused by glandular problems , but we know better : a combination of gluttony and laziness will do it every time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know how one might solve these issues outside of making programming a full-body sport

It's important to take a break at least once an hour and spend 5 minutes doing something else.
Our offices are above the warehouse which is 200m long.
Every hour I suspend programming activities and walk to the end of the warehouse and back.
Apart from getting the blood flowing (how many programmers succumb to economy class syndrome?
) it also gives my eyes a chance to focus on something more than two feet away.
Incidentally, we have two fat girls in our team who don't lift their enourmous arses off their suffering chairs all day except to go to the canteen to consume vast mounds of chips.
We work one floor up and they take the lift.
They whine that their obesity is caused by glandular problems, but we know better: a combination of gluttony and laziness will do it every time.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832510</id>
	<title>The bad "too"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264005600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sitting down <b>too</b> long is bad...</p></div><p>Maybe it's stupid, but these sentences always disturb my logic-processor. Of course it's bad.. because you used the word "too". Standing up too long is also bad, otherwise it wouldn't be <b>too</b> long.. Or am I missing something?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sitting down too long is bad...Maybe it 's stupid , but these sentences always disturb my logic-processor .
Of course it 's bad.. because you used the word " too " .
Standing up too long is also bad , otherwise it would n't be too long.. Or am I missing something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sitting down too long is bad...Maybe it's stupid, but these sentences always disturb my logic-processor.
Of course it's bad.. because you used the word "too".
Standing up too long is also bad, otherwise it wouldn't be too long.. Or am I missing something?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831898</id>
	<title>Twitchy legs</title>
	<author>phorm</author>
	<datestamp>1264002960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know many people that have a "twitchy leg" etc, when sitting for overly long, myself included at various times.<br>So do people with a nervous twitch have more "activity" and are thus a little bit healthier? When you're working at the keyboard your hands/arms are probably moving at least a bit, and if your leg(s) are twitching then a good portion of your body is still moving.</p><p>Healthy or non?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know many people that have a " twitchy leg " etc , when sitting for overly long , myself included at various times.So do people with a nervous twitch have more " activity " and are thus a little bit healthier ?
When you 're working at the keyboard your hands/arms are probably moving at least a bit , and if your leg ( s ) are twitching then a good portion of your body is still moving.Healthy or non ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know many people that have a "twitchy leg" etc, when sitting for overly long, myself included at various times.So do people with a nervous twitch have more "activity" and are thus a little bit healthier?
When you're working at the keyboard your hands/arms are probably moving at least a bit, and if your leg(s) are twitching then a good portion of your body is still moving.Healthy or non?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>serialband</author>
	<datestamp>1263985740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The solution to the sitting around problem is to get up walk around the office, carouse with coworkers every hour or two.  Take the hour lunch break and go do something.  While I probably couldn't do a full day of farm work, I have no problems mounting the occassional 50-100 pound servers.  After finishing each section of a project I get up and walk around, quench my thirst, check in with other people and get them off their butts too(at least the ones who want to get off their butts).  I usually try to get people to work with me moving equipment around.  While I could cary 50-100 pounds on my own, it's boring by myself and work gets done faster with help.</p><p>Another thing to do is always take the stairs.  I decided long ago to only take an elevator when I have to wheel a cart of heavy items between floors, and that's quite infrequent.  If it's more than 4 floors, I might use the elevator, but I decided that anything less could be done by my own leg power.  I'll even carry a single system or CRT up or down a floor or two.</p><p>I would never go to a gym as a separate routine just to work out, but making simple small changes to part of my routine negates my need to go.  The thing to know is that it's always hardest when you first start, especially that first week, but once it becomes easy, just keep doing it.  If you can manage that, you'd be in much better shape than you are now.  If you live close enough to work you can even start bicycling to work.  I started bicycling because it's faster than public transit with all the transfers and stops.  It saves me money too and keeps healthy without that extra unnatural step.</p><p>I remember as a kid, that fat people were frequently made fun of, since there weren't very many fat people back then.  Theses days being fat almost seems a badge of honor.  It's quite sad.  From my experience, Saint Nick couldn't have been jolly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The solution to the sitting around problem is to get up walk around the office , carouse with coworkers every hour or two .
Take the hour lunch break and go do something .
While I probably could n't do a full day of farm work , I have no problems mounting the occassional 50-100 pound servers .
After finishing each section of a project I get up and walk around , quench my thirst , check in with other people and get them off their butts too ( at least the ones who want to get off their butts ) .
I usually try to get people to work with me moving equipment around .
While I could cary 50-100 pounds on my own , it 's boring by myself and work gets done faster with help.Another thing to do is always take the stairs .
I decided long ago to only take an elevator when I have to wheel a cart of heavy items between floors , and that 's quite infrequent .
If it 's more than 4 floors , I might use the elevator , but I decided that anything less could be done by my own leg power .
I 'll even carry a single system or CRT up or down a floor or two.I would never go to a gym as a separate routine just to work out , but making simple small changes to part of my routine negates my need to go .
The thing to know is that it 's always hardest when you first start , especially that first week , but once it becomes easy , just keep doing it .
If you can manage that , you 'd be in much better shape than you are now .
If you live close enough to work you can even start bicycling to work .
I started bicycling because it 's faster than public transit with all the transfers and stops .
It saves me money too and keeps healthy without that extra unnatural step.I remember as a kid , that fat people were frequently made fun of , since there were n't very many fat people back then .
Theses days being fat almost seems a badge of honor .
It 's quite sad .
From my experience , Saint Nick could n't have been jolly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The solution to the sitting around problem is to get up walk around the office, carouse with coworkers every hour or two.
Take the hour lunch break and go do something.
While I probably couldn't do a full day of farm work, I have no problems mounting the occassional 50-100 pound servers.
After finishing each section of a project I get up and walk around, quench my thirst, check in with other people and get them off their butts too(at least the ones who want to get off their butts).
I usually try to get people to work with me moving equipment around.
While I could cary 50-100 pounds on my own, it's boring by myself and work gets done faster with help.Another thing to do is always take the stairs.
I decided long ago to only take an elevator when I have to wheel a cart of heavy items between floors, and that's quite infrequent.
If it's more than 4 floors, I might use the elevator, but I decided that anything less could be done by my own leg power.
I'll even carry a single system or CRT up or down a floor or two.I would never go to a gym as a separate routine just to work out, but making simple small changes to part of my routine negates my need to go.
The thing to know is that it's always hardest when you first start, especially that first week, but once it becomes easy, just keep doing it.
If you can manage that, you'd be in much better shape than you are now.
If you live close enough to work you can even start bicycling to work.
I started bicycling because it's faster than public transit with all the transfers and stops.
It saves me money too and keeps healthy without that extra unnatural step.I remember as a kid, that fat people were frequently made fun of, since there weren't very many fat people back then.
Theses days being fat almost seems a badge of honor.
It's quite sad.
From my experience, Saint Nick couldn't have been jolly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830156</id>
	<title>One reason why not moving is making you sick:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263988860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thing really got stuck in my mind:</p><p>The circulatory system got a heart to pump around the blood.<br>But the lymphatic system, hasn&rsquo;t got a heart. Instead, it relies on the movements of your muscles, to get the immune cells around the body.</p><p>Which makes it pretty clear, that not moving is not very healthy for you.</p><p>I also found, that there are two types of tiredness. The brain one, and the body one.<br>Brain-wise I can be completely drained, while still having too much energy in my body, to be able to sleep well.<br>Strangely, the opposite is not analogue. Instead, I found that my brain is much fitter in the morning, after being tired, body-wise, the evening before.</p><p>I all in all, making sport, made me come up with better ideas, being able to wrap my head around bigger things, etc. Because I slept better. What really hits it for me, is swimming. You get reeally chilly after it. And sleep like a baby. And in the summer, if nothing else, at least you see some hot girls in bikinis.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>We geeks have a hard time with sports. But I got a little mind-twist for you: How about you see your body as this extremely advanced machine that it is. And you want to tune it, hack it, and keep it running nicely, just like do with your (really much <em>much</em> more primitive computer). Use the same motivation and ways to overcome your previous associations. Remember: You can change your views, whenever you like. Do it for the fun. You don&rsquo;t have to. But there is this cool thing that you wanna try...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>I should sell stickers, saying &ldquo;My other computer... is my body!&rdquo;.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing really got stuck in my mind : The circulatory system got a heart to pump around the blood.But the lymphatic system , hasn    t got a heart .
Instead , it relies on the movements of your muscles , to get the immune cells around the body.Which makes it pretty clear , that not moving is not very healthy for you.I also found , that there are two types of tiredness .
The brain one , and the body one.Brain-wise I can be completely drained , while still having too much energy in my body , to be able to sleep well.Strangely , the opposite is not analogue .
Instead , I found that my brain is much fitter in the morning , after being tired , body-wise , the evening before.I all in all , making sport , made me come up with better ideas , being able to wrap my head around bigger things , etc .
Because I slept better .
What really hits it for me , is swimming .
You get reeally chilly after it .
And sleep like a baby .
And in the summer , if nothing else , at least you see some hot girls in bikinis .
; ) We geeks have a hard time with sports .
But I got a little mind-twist for you : How about you see your body as this extremely advanced machine that it is .
And you want to tune it , hack it , and keep it running nicely , just like do with your ( really much much more primitive computer ) .
Use the same motivation and ways to overcome your previous associations .
Remember : You can change your views , whenever you like .
Do it for the fun .
You don    t have to .
But there is this cool thing that you wan na try... ; ) I should sell stickers , saying    My other computer... is my body !    .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing really got stuck in my mind:The circulatory system got a heart to pump around the blood.But the lymphatic system, hasn’t got a heart.
Instead, it relies on the movements of your muscles, to get the immune cells around the body.Which makes it pretty clear, that not moving is not very healthy for you.I also found, that there are two types of tiredness.
The brain one, and the body one.Brain-wise I can be completely drained, while still having too much energy in my body, to be able to sleep well.Strangely, the opposite is not analogue.
Instead, I found that my brain is much fitter in the morning, after being tired, body-wise, the evening before.I all in all, making sport, made me come up with better ideas, being able to wrap my head around bigger things, etc.
Because I slept better.
What really hits it for me, is swimming.
You get reeally chilly after it.
And sleep like a baby.
And in the summer, if nothing else, at least you see some hot girls in bikinis.
;)We geeks have a hard time with sports.
But I got a little mind-twist for you: How about you see your body as this extremely advanced machine that it is.
And you want to tune it, hack it, and keep it running nicely, just like do with your (really much much more primitive computer).
Use the same motivation and ways to overcome your previous associations.
Remember: You can change your views, whenever you like.
Do it for the fun.
You don’t have to.
But there is this cool thing that you wanna try... ;)I should sell stickers, saying “My other computer... is my body!”.
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835532</id>
	<title>Just TV, or...</title>
	<author>used2win32</author>
	<datestamp>1264016760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The article focused on television, but what about other sedentary activities like reading?  Is turning the page in a book more exercise than using a remote control?  What about sitting in a classroom?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The article focused on television , but what about other sedentary activities like reading ?
Is turning the page in a book more exercise than using a remote control ?
What about sitting in a classroom ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article focused on television, but what about other sedentary activities like reading?
Is turning the page in a book more exercise than using a remote control?
What about sitting in a classroom?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30833710</id>
	<title>Smaller cubes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264009680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just what the PHB was looking for to justify removing chairs the the cube farm. If the grunts have to stand he can cut down on the floor space and put more cubes per square foot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just what the PHB was looking for to justify removing chairs the the cube farm .
If the grunts have to stand he can cut down on the floor space and put more cubes per square foot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just what the PHB was looking for to justify removing chairs the the cube farm.
If the grunts have to stand he can cut down on the floor space and put more cubes per square foot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830002</id>
	<title>Medical Advice from the Economic Times?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263987180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>EVERY hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18\%, an<br>Australian study found.</p></div><p>*facepalm*</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>EVERY hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18 \ % , anAustralian study found .
* facepalm *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EVERY hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18\%, anAustralian study found.
*facepalm*
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830764</id>
	<title>Re:I'll stay in my sofa</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263996540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In short, we evolved to: eat, sleep, shit and fuck. Everything else is a waste of time.</p><p>I'm going back to bed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In short , we evolved to : eat , sleep , shit and fuck .
Everything else is a waste of time.I 'm going back to bed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In short, we evolved to: eat, sleep, shit and fuck.
Everything else is a waste of time.I'm going back to bed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829886</id>
	<title>Synonyms</title>
	<author>clemdoc</author>
	<datestamp>1263985740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can somebody please point me to a dictionary where these synonyms are explained? 'sedentary behavior', what a bullshit terminology is that supposed to be? And then, of course, we have to abolish (abolish, right) or change the definitions of these buzzwords so before any discussion might take place, consent about the use of said definitions needs to be reached.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can somebody please point me to a dictionary where these synonyms are explained ?
'sedentary behavior ' , what a bullshit terminology is that supposed to be ?
And then , of course , we have to abolish ( abolish , right ) or change the definitions of these buzzwords so before any discussion might take place , consent about the use of said definitions needs to be reached .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can somebody please point me to a dictionary where these synonyms are explained?
'sedentary behavior', what a bullshit terminology is that supposed to be?
And then, of course, we have to abolish (abolish, right) or change the definitions of these buzzwords so before any discussion might take place, consent about the use of said definitions needs to be reached.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830516</id>
	<title>I know what sedentary time is!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263993240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sedentary time??!? I know that!!! It's when I get high as hell from smoking weed!!!..It's sedentary time!!!</p><p>Anyone else think this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sedentary time ? ? ! ?
I know that ! ! !
It 's when I get high as hell from smoking weed ! !
! ..It 's sedentary time ! !
! Anyone else think this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sedentary time??!?
I know that!!!
It's when I get high as hell from smoking weed!!
!..It's sedentary time!!
!Anyone else think this?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831068</id>
	<title>Re:Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>tenco</author>
	<datestamp>1263998940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sounds familiar. I also don't own a car, i live 3rd floor without an elevator in the building, i usually cycle to university (20min) or walk in winter (45min). Taking the bus would take 40min, so there's really no incentive for taking it. Bad weather? I got good clothing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds familiar .
I also do n't own a car , i live 3rd floor without an elevator in the building , i usually cycle to university ( 20min ) or walk in winter ( 45min ) .
Taking the bus would take 40min , so there 's really no incentive for taking it .
Bad weather ?
I got good clothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds familiar.
I also don't own a car, i live 3rd floor without an elevator in the building, i usually cycle to university (20min) or walk in winter (45min).
Taking the bus would take 40min, so there's really no incentive for taking it.
Bad weather?
I got good clothing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834238</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>CapnStank</author>
	<datestamp>1264011660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is sort of obvious that you haven't invested the time to fight the "unnatural" feeling to work out. Yes, when you start to jog/lift/stretch/etc. it sucks. Your body wants to quit early and you feel like crap the day after but that's because you're attempting to change something your body has developed a habit for. This is like eating. If you're used to eating huge portions (above what is reasonable and healthy) then going to a regular portion sized meal looks stupid; you want more!!!<br> <br>
The reality is that your body is habit forming, you can force it to learn new things. In my case it took about one month of 'forced' workout sessions to get into a rhythm. Now, I'm sitting between classes at my university and am itching to get home to my treadmill to get a dose of the runner's high.<br> <br>
TL;DR: Yes its unnatural to you now but if you force the action it becomes habit and actually becomes difficult to give up in the same way it was difficult to start.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is sort of obvious that you have n't invested the time to fight the " unnatural " feeling to work out .
Yes , when you start to jog/lift/stretch/etc .
it sucks .
Your body wants to quit early and you feel like crap the day after but that 's because you 're attempting to change something your body has developed a habit for .
This is like eating .
If you 're used to eating huge portions ( above what is reasonable and healthy ) then going to a regular portion sized meal looks stupid ; you want more ! ! !
The reality is that your body is habit forming , you can force it to learn new things .
In my case it took about one month of 'forced ' workout sessions to get into a rhythm .
Now , I 'm sitting between classes at my university and am itching to get home to my treadmill to get a dose of the runner 's high .
TL ; DR : Yes its unnatural to you now but if you force the action it becomes habit and actually becomes difficult to give up in the same way it was difficult to start .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is sort of obvious that you haven't invested the time to fight the "unnatural" feeling to work out.
Yes, when you start to jog/lift/stretch/etc.
it sucks.
Your body wants to quit early and you feel like crap the day after but that's because you're attempting to change something your body has developed a habit for.
This is like eating.
If you're used to eating huge portions (above what is reasonable and healthy) then going to a regular portion sized meal looks stupid; you want more!!!
The reality is that your body is habit forming, you can force it to learn new things.
In my case it took about one month of 'forced' workout sessions to get into a rhythm.
Now, I'm sitting between classes at my university and am itching to get home to my treadmill to get a dose of the runner's high.
TL;DR: Yes its unnatural to you now but if you force the action it becomes habit and actually becomes difficult to give up in the same way it was difficult to start.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30870020</id>
	<title>anonymous coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264266000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has anybody tried using a standing desk, or a "desk cycle" so you can do some kind of muscular activity while you sit at your desk all day? Shoot me an amazon url...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anybody tried using a standing desk , or a " desk cycle " so you can do some kind of muscular activity while you sit at your desk all day ?
Shoot me an amazon url.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anybody tried using a standing desk, or a "desk cycle" so you can do some kind of muscular activity while you sit at your desk all day?
Shoot me an amazon url...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830490</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263992700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think your are doing your math wrong. If the initial risk is of of 1\%, one more hour of TV increases it to 1.18\% (1\% + 18\% of 1\%), not to 19\%, and so on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think your are doing your math wrong .
If the initial risk is of of 1 \ % , one more hour of TV increases it to 1.18 \ % ( 1 \ % + 18 \ % of 1 \ % ) , not to 19 \ % , and so on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think your are doing your math wrong.
If the initial risk is of of 1\%, one more hour of TV increases it to 1.18\% (1\% + 18\% of 1\%), not to 19\%, and so on.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830036</id>
	<title>Re:Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>ZeroExistenZ</author>
	<datestamp>1263987660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Secondly, if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day, you are not fit.</p></div> </blockquote><p>I work as a software consultant and alot of my work is sitting.</p><p>Every 2-3 days, however, I swim about 2 km or 1.2 miles to clear my mind, overthink business and personal goals or issues.<br>I'd like to think I'm somewhat fit, even though I sit for most of the day.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Secondly , if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day , you are not fit .
I work as a software consultant and alot of my work is sitting.Every 2-3 days , however , I swim about 2 km or 1.2 miles to clear my mind , overthink business and personal goals or issues.I 'd like to think I 'm somewhat fit , even though I sit for most of the day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Secondly, if you are sitting for hours at a desk each day, you are not fit.
I work as a software consultant and alot of my work is sitting.Every 2-3 days, however, I swim about 2 km or 1.2 miles to clear my mind, overthink business and personal goals or issues.I'd like to think I'm somewhat fit, even though I sit for most of the day.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832550</id>
	<title>Re:One reason why not moving is making you sick:</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1264005780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I should sell stickers, saying "My other computer... is my body!".<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)<br></i><br>No, your body is your robot. Your brain is its computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I should sell stickers , saying " My other computer... is my body ! " .
; ) No , your body is your robot .
Your brain is its computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I should sell stickers, saying "My other computer... is my body!".
;)No, your body is your robot.
Your brain is its computer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830156</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829928</id>
	<title>I'll stay in my sofa</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263986100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They can run any study they want, people get badly injured doing sports, not sitting on a sofa.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They can run any study they want , people get badly injured doing sports , not sitting on a sofa .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They can run any study they want, people get badly injured doing sports, not sitting on a sofa.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830020</id>
	<title>More to the point...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263987480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>TFA is obviously mistaken on at least one point. They say that every hour spent watching TV increases your risk of premature death by heart attack by 18\%... which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV, you will likely have died 1.44 times. I know that they meant "daily" but even so. The numbers do not add up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA is obviously mistaken on at least one point .
They say that every hour spent watching TV increases your risk of premature death by heart attack by 18 \ % ... which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV , you will likely have died 1.44 times .
I know that they meant " daily " but even so .
The numbers do not add up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA is obviously mistaken on at least one point.
They say that every hour spent watching TV increases your risk of premature death by heart attack by 18\%... which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV, you will likely have died 1.44 times.
I know that they meant "daily" but even so.
The numbers do not add up.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830806</id>
	<title>Re:One reason why not moving is making you sick:</title>
	<author>weicco</author>
	<datestamp>1263996900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are absolutely right. I just add one thing. Artery system works with heart pulse. Venous system (I'm not sure if that's the right worm, I'm not native English speaker) uses muscles like lymphatic system. That's why they instruct you to exercise your legs on long flights so you won't get thromboses (again, I'm not sure if that's the right term) on your legs. Or at least that's what they told me in elementary school some 20 years ago<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are absolutely right .
I just add one thing .
Artery system works with heart pulse .
Venous system ( I 'm not sure if that 's the right worm , I 'm not native English speaker ) uses muscles like lymphatic system .
That 's why they instruct you to exercise your legs on long flights so you wo n't get thromboses ( again , I 'm not sure if that 's the right term ) on your legs .
Or at least that 's what they told me in elementary school some 20 years ago : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are absolutely right.
I just add one thing.
Artery system works with heart pulse.
Venous system (I'm not sure if that's the right worm, I'm not native English speaker) uses muscles like lymphatic system.
That's why they instruct you to exercise your legs on long flights so you won't get thromboses (again, I'm not sure if that's the right term) on your legs.
Or at least that's what they told me in elementary school some 20 years ago :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830592</id>
	<title>Obligatory xkcd reference</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1263994320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forgot this one: <a href="http://xkcd.com/189/" title="xkcd.com">http://xkcd.com/189/</a> [xkcd.com]</p><p>I'm currently working on my STR score (push-ups, sit-ups, biceps curl, etc.) and my base attack bonus (fencing).  I might also get Proficiency: Martial Weapon (Foil).</p><p>All that exercise spills over into my INT score as well<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot this one : http : //xkcd.com/189/ [ xkcd.com ] I 'm currently working on my STR score ( push-ups , sit-ups , biceps curl , etc .
) and my base attack bonus ( fencing ) .
I might also get Proficiency : Martial Weapon ( Foil ) .All that exercise spills over into my INT score as well ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot this one: http://xkcd.com/189/ [xkcd.com]I'm currently working on my STR score (push-ups, sit-ups, biceps curl, etc.
) and my base attack bonus (fencing).
I might also get Proficiency: Martial Weapon (Foil).All that exercise spills over into my INT score as well ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30838082</id>
	<title>Ju Jitsu</title>
	<author>MrKaos</author>
	<datestamp>1263983940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I do Ju jitsu, even competed recently. There is a real strategy to fighting this way and it is really good if you are a coder. The results of my training are that I sleep very well and can focus on the IT tasks I have to do. My colleagues are often amazed at how laid back and relaxed I am and it does wonders for your confidence.<p>
I find that it's hard to sit around all the time and my body forces me to get up walk and stretch when I am working. It's a great way to make new friends to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do Ju jitsu , even competed recently .
There is a real strategy to fighting this way and it is really good if you are a coder .
The results of my training are that I sleep very well and can focus on the IT tasks I have to do .
My colleagues are often amazed at how laid back and relaxed I am and it does wonders for your confidence .
I find that it 's hard to sit around all the time and my body forces me to get up walk and stretch when I am working .
It 's a great way to make new friends to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do Ju jitsu, even competed recently.
There is a real strategy to fighting this way and it is really good if you are a coder.
The results of my training are that I sleep very well and can focus on the IT tasks I have to do.
My colleagues are often amazed at how laid back and relaxed I am and it does wonders for your confidence.
I find that it's hard to sit around all the time and my body forces me to get up walk and stretch when I am working.
It's a great way to make new friends to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830218</id>
	<title>But</title>
	<author>rossdee</author>
	<datestamp>1263989700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Standing up too long is also bad for you - especialy for your feet.<br>But what is even worse for you is being unemployed (so you don't have to sit at a desk or work in a factory type job all day (or other shift)) since you then can't afford health insurance etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Standing up too long is also bad for you - especialy for your feet.But what is even worse for you is being unemployed ( so you do n't have to sit at a desk or work in a factory type job all day ( or other shift ) ) since you then ca n't afford health insurance etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Standing up too long is also bad for you - especialy for your feet.But what is even worse for you is being unemployed (so you don't have to sit at a desk or work in a factory type job all day (or other shift)) since you then can't afford health insurance etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30837242</id>
	<title>Just the motivation I needed!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263980700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This article motivated me to get up out of my chair and go get a candy bar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This article motivated me to get up out of my chair and go get a candy bar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This article motivated me to get up out of my chair and go get a candy bar.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830044</id>
	<title>What about smokers ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263987780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I go and take a smoke every 1-2h, and walk up and down 3 stories of stairs every time. Am i in risk ?<br>I KNEW there were good sides of smoking !!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I go and take a smoke every 1-2h , and walk up and down 3 stories of stairs every time .
Am i in risk ? I KNEW there were good sides of smoking !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I go and take a smoke every 1-2h, and walk up and down 3 stories of stairs every time.
Am i in risk ?I KNEW there were good sides of smoking !
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830534</id>
	<title>Not all geeks</title>
	<author>Viol8</author>
	<datestamp>1263993480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"We geeks have a hard time with sports"</p><p>Speak for yourself mate. I'm as geeky as the next nerd when it comes to computers but I still go to the gym 4 times a week and run.</p><p>Its not an either or thing with brain vs body - you can have both fit and healthy you know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" We geeks have a hard time with sports " Speak for yourself mate .
I 'm as geeky as the next nerd when it comes to computers but I still go to the gym 4 times a week and run.Its not an either or thing with brain vs body - you can have both fit and healthy you know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We geeks have a hard time with sports"Speak for yourself mate.
I'm as geeky as the next nerd when it comes to computers but I still go to the gym 4 times a week and run.Its not an either or thing with brain vs body - you can have both fit and healthy you know.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832844</id>
	<title>Ok, so what are we supposed to do now?</title>
	<author>jr76</author>
	<datestamp>1264006740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I exercise, and just like most Americans who work in an office, am stuck on my chair for 8 hours a day behind a computer.  It's not like I can work while playing basketball or whatever.  Are we supposed to either be doing manual labor all day or die?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I exercise , and just like most Americans who work in an office , am stuck on my chair for 8 hours a day behind a computer .
It 's not like I can work while playing basketball or whatever .
Are we supposed to either be doing manual labor all day or die ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I exercise, and just like most Americans who work in an office, am stuck on my chair for 8 hours a day behind a computer.
It's not like I can work while playing basketball or whatever.
Are we supposed to either be doing manual labor all day or die?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830100</id>
	<title>Re:Where's the part we can use?</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1263988320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also wonder about the effect of a good ergonomic chair. I got one because I have RSI, but I've become a real believer in them overall. I'm talking things like the Steelcase Leap, the Humanscale Freedom and so on. The reason why I wonder is because one of their major features is that they are not rigid normally, the move around with the user. You lean back, it leans and provides support at whatever angle you stop at, you shift your legs around, the front moves down to accommodate them and so on. Basically they allow and encourage you to change your seating position as much as you like, without thinking about it.</p><p>What I'd wonder is it the sitting that is bad, or sitting still? The study seems to imply the problem isn't just lack of exercise. That being the case (though I'll say I have questions about its validity) is any and all sitting the problem, or only when you are frozen to one posture, as many chairs do?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also wonder about the effect of a good ergonomic chair .
I got one because I have RSI , but I 've become a real believer in them overall .
I 'm talking things like the Steelcase Leap , the Humanscale Freedom and so on .
The reason why I wonder is because one of their major features is that they are not rigid normally , the move around with the user .
You lean back , it leans and provides support at whatever angle you stop at , you shift your legs around , the front moves down to accommodate them and so on .
Basically they allow and encourage you to change your seating position as much as you like , without thinking about it.What I 'd wonder is it the sitting that is bad , or sitting still ?
The study seems to imply the problem is n't just lack of exercise .
That being the case ( though I 'll say I have questions about its validity ) is any and all sitting the problem , or only when you are frozen to one posture , as many chairs do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also wonder about the effect of a good ergonomic chair.
I got one because I have RSI, but I've become a real believer in them overall.
I'm talking things like the Steelcase Leap, the Humanscale Freedom and so on.
The reason why I wonder is because one of their major features is that they are not rigid normally, the move around with the user.
You lean back, it leans and provides support at whatever angle you stop at, you shift your legs around, the front moves down to accommodate them and so on.
Basically they allow and encourage you to change your seating position as much as you like, without thinking about it.What I'd wonder is it the sitting that is bad, or sitting still?
The study seems to imply the problem isn't just lack of exercise.
That being the case (though I'll say I have questions about its validity) is any and all sitting the problem, or only when you are frozen to one posture, as many chairs do?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30840146</id>
	<title>Re:Where's the part we can use?</title>
	<author>martin-boundary</author>
	<datestamp>1263992340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As few times as we can!
<p>
Do you think the early monkey hominids with opposable thumbs on their feet were thinking of their health when they started walking upright for hours and hours in the Kalahari desert? That must have hurt like hell, and let's not even think about their insurance premiums!
</p><p>
But they destroyed their health for us, so we can walk upright and lord it over the animal kingdom, dammit!
</p><p>
So I say: stay seated, man, even if it hurts. Eat the Cheetos, and drink the 'Dew, and give no thought to the health implications, because our descendants will thank us for it. And that's what makes it all worthwhile, or are you just some selfish bastard who wants to go back being a fish?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As few times as we can !
Do you think the early monkey hominids with opposable thumbs on their feet were thinking of their health when they started walking upright for hours and hours in the Kalahari desert ?
That must have hurt like hell , and let 's not even think about their insurance premiums !
But they destroyed their health for us , so we can walk upright and lord it over the animal kingdom , dammit !
So I say : stay seated , man , even if it hurts .
Eat the Cheetos , and drink the 'Dew , and give no thought to the health implications , because our descendants will thank us for it .
And that 's what makes it all worthwhile , or are you just some selfish bastard who wants to go back being a fish ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As few times as we can!
Do you think the early monkey hominids with opposable thumbs on their feet were thinking of their health when they started walking upright for hours and hours in the Kalahari desert?
That must have hurt like hell, and let's not even think about their insurance premiums!
But they destroyed their health for us, so we can walk upright and lord it over the animal kingdom, dammit!
So I say: stay seated, man, even if it hurts.
Eat the Cheetos, and drink the 'Dew, and give no thought to the health implications, because our descendants will thank us for it.
And that's what makes it all worthwhile, or are you just some selfish bastard who wants to go back being a fish?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830138</id>
	<title>Re:junk summary and blog, maybe study</title>
	<author>linhares</author>
	<datestamp>1263988680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>May be a bit of junk science, too, but it's hard to tell since I can't find the original study.</p></div><p>Here:http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/reprint/CIRCULATIONAHA.109.894824v1</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>May be a bit of junk science , too , but it 's hard to tell since I ca n't find the original study.Here : http : //circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/reprint/CIRCULATIONAHA.109.894824v1</tokentext>
<sentencetext>May be a bit of junk science, too, but it's hard to tell since I can't find the original study.Here:http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/reprint/CIRCULATIONAHA.109.894824v1
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831284</id>
	<title>Re:One reason why not moving is making you sick:</title>
	<author>agentultra</author>
	<datestamp>1264000140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Working from home, it's natural for me to spend 10+ hours in front of a computer some days. It used to be anyways. It's the exception now; I generally can't stand sitting in front of a computer for more than a couple hours at a time. And more than 8 hours behind the desk? Forget it!</p><p>Three or four years ago I joined a martial arts club. Then when we moved to an office I started cycling to work. Ever since I've become a rather physical geek. I need exercise and often crave it throughout the day. I'm back to working at home again and I can't tell you how important it is.</p><p>We are made of meat after all.</p><p>I'm not a doctor by any stretch, but getting fit and training hard has definitely improved my life and work. I get back pain less often, I can think more clearly (especially after a good workout), and I feel more motivated in the mornings. The only thing I don't like is that programming isn't a physical endeavor.</p><p>Or could it be? Punching bag keyboard anyone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Working from home , it 's natural for me to spend 10 + hours in front of a computer some days .
It used to be anyways .
It 's the exception now ; I generally ca n't stand sitting in front of a computer for more than a couple hours at a time .
And more than 8 hours behind the desk ?
Forget it ! Three or four years ago I joined a martial arts club .
Then when we moved to an office I started cycling to work .
Ever since I 've become a rather physical geek .
I need exercise and often crave it throughout the day .
I 'm back to working at home again and I ca n't tell you how important it is.We are made of meat after all.I 'm not a doctor by any stretch , but getting fit and training hard has definitely improved my life and work .
I get back pain less often , I can think more clearly ( especially after a good workout ) , and I feel more motivated in the mornings .
The only thing I do n't like is that programming is n't a physical endeavor.Or could it be ?
Punching bag keyboard anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Working from home, it's natural for me to spend 10+ hours in front of a computer some days.
It used to be anyways.
It's the exception now; I generally can't stand sitting in front of a computer for more than a couple hours at a time.
And more than 8 hours behind the desk?
Forget it!Three or four years ago I joined a martial arts club.
Then when we moved to an office I started cycling to work.
Ever since I've become a rather physical geek.
I need exercise and often crave it throughout the day.
I'm back to working at home again and I can't tell you how important it is.We are made of meat after all.I'm not a doctor by any stretch, but getting fit and training hard has definitely improved my life and work.
I get back pain less often, I can think more clearly (especially after a good workout), and I feel more motivated in the mornings.
The only thing I don't like is that programming isn't a physical endeavor.Or could it be?
Punching bag keyboard anyone?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835598</id>
	<title>What bullshit</title>
	<author>Latinhypercube</author>
	<datestamp>1264017000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, we age whether we stand or sit. How can being idle be harmful. Such bullshit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , we age whether we stand or sit .
How can being idle be harmful .
Such bullshit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, we age whether we stand or sit.
How can being idle be harmful.
Such bullshit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831192</id>
	<title>Television solves the overpopulation problem.</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1263999600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...every hour spent watching television was associated with an 18\% greater<br>&gt; risk of dying from cardiovascular disease, an 11\% greater risk of all causes<br>&gt; of death, and a 9\% increased risk of death from cancer.</p><p>According to these numbers you're all dead and have been for decades!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; ...every hour spent watching television was associated with an 18 \ % greater &gt; risk of dying from cardiovascular disease , an 11 \ % greater risk of all causes &gt; of death , and a 9 \ % increased risk of death from cancer.According to these numbers you 're all dead and have been for decades !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; ...every hour spent watching television was associated with an 18\% greater&gt; risk of dying from cardiovascular disease, an 11\% greater risk of all causes&gt; of death, and a 9\% increased risk of death from cancer.According to these numbers you're all dead and have been for decades!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830466</id>
	<title>Re:One reason why not moving is making you sick:</title>
	<author>indiechild</author>
	<datestamp>1263992520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nice post, you've provided me with inspiration!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice post , you 've provided me with inspiration !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice post, you've provided me with inspiration!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831944</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1264003140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also maybe it increases your chances of death by heart attack so much because it also drastically decreases your chances of dying from anything else.  For every hour you're sitting at home watching TV, that's an hour that you won't be in a car accident, aren't involved in a gunfight, and won't catch an STD from unprotected sex.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also maybe it increases your chances of death by heart attack so much because it also drastically decreases your chances of dying from anything else .
For every hour you 're sitting at home watching TV , that 's an hour that you wo n't be in a car accident , are n't involved in a gunfight , and wo n't catch an STD from unprotected sex .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also maybe it increases your chances of death by heart attack so much because it also drastically decreases your chances of dying from anything else.
For every hour you're sitting at home watching TV, that's an hour that you won't be in a car accident, aren't involved in a gunfight, and won't catch an STD from unprotected sex.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830124</id>
	<title>Re:I'll stay in my sofa</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263988620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please don't mod parent "Funny".</p><p>He's actually pointing out a major cause for mankind's current crisis. No matter if it's financial, political or climate trouble, you can always look at it and find one root cause: All these are issues we are biologically ill-equipped to deal with. Long-term problems with no immediate danger. When the human brain evolved, it didn't have spare room for that kind of processing, except in the general "deal with all the other complicated stuff, if you feel like it" area we call reasoning. Our main problem was not being eaten today, finding a mate soon and getting the tribe to that other place by the end of the month. "Next year" was about as far as our ancestors ever needed to plan, so we don't have any brain matter specialized to doing it. "May hurt me in 10 years time" is a waste of energy to think about when your survival until next week is far from certain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please do n't mod parent " Funny " .He 's actually pointing out a major cause for mankind 's current crisis .
No matter if it 's financial , political or climate trouble , you can always look at it and find one root cause : All these are issues we are biologically ill-equipped to deal with .
Long-term problems with no immediate danger .
When the human brain evolved , it did n't have spare room for that kind of processing , except in the general " deal with all the other complicated stuff , if you feel like it " area we call reasoning .
Our main problem was not being eaten today , finding a mate soon and getting the tribe to that other place by the end of the month .
" Next year " was about as far as our ancestors ever needed to plan , so we do n't have any brain matter specialized to doing it .
" May hurt me in 10 years time " is a waste of energy to think about when your survival until next week is far from certain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please don't mod parent "Funny".He's actually pointing out a major cause for mankind's current crisis.
No matter if it's financial, political or climate trouble, you can always look at it and find one root cause: All these are issues we are biologically ill-equipped to deal with.
Long-term problems with no immediate danger.
When the human brain evolved, it didn't have spare room for that kind of processing, except in the general "deal with all the other complicated stuff, if you feel like it" area we call reasoning.
Our main problem was not being eaten today, finding a mate soon and getting the tribe to that other place by the end of the month.
"Next year" was about as far as our ancestors ever needed to plan, so we don't have any brain matter specialized to doing it.
"May hurt me in 10 years time" is a waste of energy to think about when your survival until next week is far from certain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831138</id>
	<title>sit &amp; watch</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263999360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just use one of these to watch tv:</p><p>http://www.amazon.com/Gaiam-Balance-Ball-Chair-Black/dp/B0007VB4NE</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just use one of these to watch tv : http : //www.amazon.com/Gaiam-Balance-Ball-Chair-Black/dp/B0007VB4NE</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just use one of these to watch tv:http://www.amazon.com/Gaiam-Balance-Ball-Chair-Black/dp/B0007VB4NE</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830452</id>
	<title>Statistical Peril</title>
	<author>cherokee158</author>
	<datestamp>1263992280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, I found this article, which had actual numbers:</p><p><a href="http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsstory.aspx?docID=634816" title="healthfinder.gov">http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsstory.aspx?docID=634816</a> [healthfinder.gov]</p><p>I was able to do the math and figure out what an 18\% increase in your chance of dying per hour of TV viewing really meant: The number of people who died during the course of the study was about 3 percent of the participants over a six year period. That means that every hour of TV viewing actually increased their chance of dying by about half a percent in any given year. So if you watch TV eight hours a day, your chances of dying in any given year go up about 4 percent.</p><p>Interestingly, more people died of cancer in the study than heart disease.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , I found this article , which had actual numbers : http : //www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsstory.aspx ? docID = 634816 [ healthfinder.gov ] I was able to do the math and figure out what an 18 \ % increase in your chance of dying per hour of TV viewing really meant : The number of people who died during the course of the study was about 3 percent of the participants over a six year period .
That means that every hour of TV viewing actually increased their chance of dying by about half a percent in any given year .
So if you watch TV eight hours a day , your chances of dying in any given year go up about 4 percent.Interestingly , more people died of cancer in the study than heart disease .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, I found this article, which had actual numbers:http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsstory.aspx?docID=634816 [healthfinder.gov]I was able to do the math and figure out what an 18\% increase in your chance of dying per hour of TV viewing really meant: The number of people who died during the course of the study was about 3 percent of the participants over a six year period.
That means that every hour of TV viewing actually increased their chance of dying by about half a percent in any given year.
So if you watch TV eight hours a day, your chances of dying in any given year go up about 4 percent.Interestingly, more people died of cancer in the study than heart disease.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830360</id>
	<title>maintain the course...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263991260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...until nanotechnology creates an automatic lymphatic pump -- please!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...until nanotechnology creates an automatic lymphatic pump -- please !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...until nanotechnology creates an automatic lymphatic pump -- please!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829992</id>
	<title>Where's the part we can use?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263987060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"5 minutes of break during sedentary work" is a good idea, but how often do we need 5 min breaks before the ill effects fo being "too sedentary" kick in?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" 5 minutes of break during sedentary work " is a good idea , but how often do we need 5 min breaks before the ill effects fo being " too sedentary " kick in ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"5 minutes of break during sedentary work" is a good idea, but how often do we need 5 min breaks before the ill effects fo being "too sedentary" kick in?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30842014</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>Meski</author>
	<datestamp>1264006800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you sure it's your thoughts in your lap?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure it 's your thoughts in your lap ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure it's your thoughts in your lap?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829868</id>
	<title>I'm writing this while standing up</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263985560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now disguised fully as some sort of shabbily dressed derelict, I quickly made off with my shopping cart and ran full tilt back to the park. With no hesitation I dug through the trash barrel I'd found earlier, seizing every last can and bottle from the fetid depths of the garbage. I was almost deterred when my hand plunged into a soiled diaper, obviously unimproved from the three days of rain we'd received prior, but I had my eyes on the prize. I rolled my cart down the paths of the park, past the lemmings of our society as they strolled idly past jackpot after jackpot, lacking sense and ambition enough to loot them for their own benefit. Many of them could not contain their envy, looking at me with disgusted jealousy as I filled my cart with money. One phenomenon I cannot explain: a Catholic nun handed me a one dollar bill and told me I could get a free meal at St. Joseph's parish every Sunday afternoon. I took the cash, obviously, and thanked her for the tip on the new scam. I figure they must make you sign up for some shit before you get the free food, and that the nun must get a kickback for every new signup. Slick setup, but I'll just keep the buck, Sister Sucker!</p><p>When I thought I'd plucked the final gem from this treasure chest, I slowly paced my way towards the most convenient road out of the park. I passed by a man drinking from a brown paper bag. I wasn't born yesterday, so I knew that he had a bottle in it (and probably not Chocolate Yoohoo if you get my drift). I tried to look very patient and unassuming while I waited for him to finish his bottle and discard it, so that I might add it to my coffers. After ten or so minutes he did something shocking and unexpected: he walked into a nearby Port-A-Potty and took the bottle in with him. Seven minutes later, exactly, he re-emerged without his bottle. The disgusting truth was obvious, he had finished his bottle while on the latrine and tossed the empty down into the hole. I nearly wrote that one off as a loss, but then my inner puppet spoke once again, chiding me for the sheer Hagginsian nature of my hesistation. Suffice to say, I was shoulder deep in shit before I even had time to regret my moment of weakness. Was the resulting bottle of Olde English 800 Malt Liquor worth the effort? You bet your ass, buddy.</p><p>Alright, so even the faithful are probably getting impatient by now. I'm sure you want to know what my take was after all that time and effort and both occassions of having a limb thrust into fecal matter. Let's just say that Andrew Jackson and I have a dinner date tonight (though I'll only be needing his vagrant friend Alexander Hamilton once I apply my coupon). On second thought, Kroger's has On-Cor Salisbury Steaks for 2.50, and I have a manufacturer's coupon which I attained by lying to their customer care line. In case you're wondering, saying you found a condom in your chicken parmesan is only worth a dollar off your next purchase.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now disguised fully as some sort of shabbily dressed derelict , I quickly made off with my shopping cart and ran full tilt back to the park .
With no hesitation I dug through the trash barrel I 'd found earlier , seizing every last can and bottle from the fetid depths of the garbage .
I was almost deterred when my hand plunged into a soiled diaper , obviously unimproved from the three days of rain we 'd received prior , but I had my eyes on the prize .
I rolled my cart down the paths of the park , past the lemmings of our society as they strolled idly past jackpot after jackpot , lacking sense and ambition enough to loot them for their own benefit .
Many of them could not contain their envy , looking at me with disgusted jealousy as I filled my cart with money .
One phenomenon I can not explain : a Catholic nun handed me a one dollar bill and told me I could get a free meal at St. Joseph 's parish every Sunday afternoon .
I took the cash , obviously , and thanked her for the tip on the new scam .
I figure they must make you sign up for some shit before you get the free food , and that the nun must get a kickback for every new signup .
Slick setup , but I 'll just keep the buck , Sister Sucker ! When I thought I 'd plucked the final gem from this treasure chest , I slowly paced my way towards the most convenient road out of the park .
I passed by a man drinking from a brown paper bag .
I was n't born yesterday , so I knew that he had a bottle in it ( and probably not Chocolate Yoohoo if you get my drift ) .
I tried to look very patient and unassuming while I waited for him to finish his bottle and discard it , so that I might add it to my coffers .
After ten or so minutes he did something shocking and unexpected : he walked into a nearby Port-A-Potty and took the bottle in with him .
Seven minutes later , exactly , he re-emerged without his bottle .
The disgusting truth was obvious , he had finished his bottle while on the latrine and tossed the empty down into the hole .
I nearly wrote that one off as a loss , but then my inner puppet spoke once again , chiding me for the sheer Hagginsian nature of my hesistation .
Suffice to say , I was shoulder deep in shit before I even had time to regret my moment of weakness .
Was the resulting bottle of Olde English 800 Malt Liquor worth the effort ?
You bet your ass , buddy.Alright , so even the faithful are probably getting impatient by now .
I 'm sure you want to know what my take was after all that time and effort and both occassions of having a limb thrust into fecal matter .
Let 's just say that Andrew Jackson and I have a dinner date tonight ( though I 'll only be needing his vagrant friend Alexander Hamilton once I apply my coupon ) .
On second thought , Kroger 's has On-Cor Salisbury Steaks for 2.50 , and I have a manufacturer 's coupon which I attained by lying to their customer care line .
In case you 're wondering , saying you found a condom in your chicken parmesan is only worth a dollar off your next purchase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now disguised fully as some sort of shabbily dressed derelict, I quickly made off with my shopping cart and ran full tilt back to the park.
With no hesitation I dug through the trash barrel I'd found earlier, seizing every last can and bottle from the fetid depths of the garbage.
I was almost deterred when my hand plunged into a soiled diaper, obviously unimproved from the three days of rain we'd received prior, but I had my eyes on the prize.
I rolled my cart down the paths of the park, past the lemmings of our society as they strolled idly past jackpot after jackpot, lacking sense and ambition enough to loot them for their own benefit.
Many of them could not contain their envy, looking at me with disgusted jealousy as I filled my cart with money.
One phenomenon I cannot explain: a Catholic nun handed me a one dollar bill and told me I could get a free meal at St. Joseph's parish every Sunday afternoon.
I took the cash, obviously, and thanked her for the tip on the new scam.
I figure they must make you sign up for some shit before you get the free food, and that the nun must get a kickback for every new signup.
Slick setup, but I'll just keep the buck, Sister Sucker!When I thought I'd plucked the final gem from this treasure chest, I slowly paced my way towards the most convenient road out of the park.
I passed by a man drinking from a brown paper bag.
I wasn't born yesterday, so I knew that he had a bottle in it (and probably not Chocolate Yoohoo if you get my drift).
I tried to look very patient and unassuming while I waited for him to finish his bottle and discard it, so that I might add it to my coffers.
After ten or so minutes he did something shocking and unexpected: he walked into a nearby Port-A-Potty and took the bottle in with him.
Seven minutes later, exactly, he re-emerged without his bottle.
The disgusting truth was obvious, he had finished his bottle while on the latrine and tossed the empty down into the hole.
I nearly wrote that one off as a loss, but then my inner puppet spoke once again, chiding me for the sheer Hagginsian nature of my hesistation.
Suffice to say, I was shoulder deep in shit before I even had time to regret my moment of weakness.
Was the resulting bottle of Olde English 800 Malt Liquor worth the effort?
You bet your ass, buddy.Alright, so even the faithful are probably getting impatient by now.
I'm sure you want to know what my take was after all that time and effort and both occassions of having a limb thrust into fecal matter.
Let's just say that Andrew Jackson and I have a dinner date tonight (though I'll only be needing his vagrant friend Alexander Hamilton once I apply my coupon).
On second thought, Kroger's has On-Cor Salisbury Steaks for 2.50, and I have a manufacturer's coupon which I attained by lying to their customer care line.
In case you're wondering, saying you found a condom in your chicken parmesan is only worth a dollar off your next purchase.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835288</id>
	<title>Re:Synonyms</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1264015920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day? That's right, you're in pain. Pain is your body's way of saying "stop that, you fool."</p></div> </blockquote><p>Actually, I usually feel better after physical labour than if I'd just sit down the whole day. It's my body's way of saying it likes having proper circulation for a while.</p><blockquote><div><p>The runner "hits the wall" and gets a "runner's high" -- that high is the endorphins kicking in to combat the pain.</p></div> </blockquote><p>You only feel pain if you're running too fast so your cardiovascular system can't keep your muscles oxygenated. Alternatively, you could also feel pain if you're so fat your joints can't take the extra stress - but if you are, it's very likely your cv system is pathetic too.</p><blockquote><div><p>Moderate exersize is ok; I like to walk. But if you do it until it hurts, it can't possibly be good for you.</p></div> </blockquote><p>This is correct. However, if it hurts just because you ran a few steps, you're out of shape and should excerzise more.</p><blockquote><div><p>I go to "working man's" bars where construstion workers hang out. These guys spend all day in heavy exersize, and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me. If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad?</p><p>On the other hand, my grandfather did stone carving all his life, and still looked like a statue made of granite wrapped in somewhat wrinkled skin at his deathbed at 85, so YMMV.</p><blockquote><div><p>The notion that exersize, especially exersize that results in sore muscles is good for you is an excuse by drug addled jocks.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Yet amazingly these jocks do tend to be in good shape. How strange.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day ?
That 's right , you 're in pain .
Pain is your body 's way of saying " stop that , you fool .
" Actually , I usually feel better after physical labour than if I 'd just sit down the whole day .
It 's my body 's way of saying it likes having proper circulation for a while.The runner " hits the wall " and gets a " runner 's high " -- that high is the endorphins kicking in to combat the pain .
You only feel pain if you 're running too fast so your cardiovascular system ca n't keep your muscles oxygenated .
Alternatively , you could also feel pain if you 're so fat your joints ca n't take the extra stress - but if you are , it 's very likely your cv system is pathetic too.Moderate exersize is ok ; I like to walk .
But if you do it until it hurts , it ca n't possibly be good for you .
This is correct .
However , if it hurts just because you ran a few steps , you 're out of shape and should excerzise more.I go to " working man 's " bars where construstion workers hang out .
These guys spend all day in heavy exersize , and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me .
If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad ? On the other hand , my grandfather did stone carving all his life , and still looked like a statue made of granite wrapped in somewhat wrinkled skin at his deathbed at 85 , so YMMV.The notion that exersize , especially exersize that results in sore muscles is good for you is an excuse by drug addled jocks .
Yet amazingly these jocks do tend to be in good shape .
How strange .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day?
That's right, you're in pain.
Pain is your body's way of saying "stop that, you fool.
" Actually, I usually feel better after physical labour than if I'd just sit down the whole day.
It's my body's way of saying it likes having proper circulation for a while.The runner "hits the wall" and gets a "runner's high" -- that high is the endorphins kicking in to combat the pain.
You only feel pain if you're running too fast so your cardiovascular system can't keep your muscles oxygenated.
Alternatively, you could also feel pain if you're so fat your joints can't take the extra stress - but if you are, it's very likely your cv system is pathetic too.Moderate exersize is ok; I like to walk.
But if you do it until it hurts, it can't possibly be good for you.
This is correct.
However, if it hurts just because you ran a few steps, you're out of shape and should excerzise more.I go to "working man's" bars where construstion workers hang out.
These guys spend all day in heavy exersize, and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me.
If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad?On the other hand, my grandfather did stone carving all his life, and still looked like a statue made of granite wrapped in somewhat wrinkled skin at his deathbed at 85, so YMMV.The notion that exersize, especially exersize that results in sore muscles is good for you is an excuse by drug addled jocks.
Yet amazingly these jocks do tend to be in good shape.
How strange.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831622</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>neonmonk</author>
	<datestamp>1264001700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every hour on the hour I do ~5 pushups. It might be forced, but I don't see myself stopping doing pushups. I find it helps my coding in some way, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every hour on the hour I do ~ 5 pushups .
It might be forced , but I do n't see myself stopping doing pushups .
I find it helps my coding in some way , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every hour on the hour I do ~5 pushups.
It might be forced, but I don't see myself stopping doing pushups.
I find it helps my coding in some way, too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830380</id>
	<title>In other news, traveling uses gas even if you walk</title>
	<author>WSOGMM</author>
	<datestamp>1263991500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did they even read the articles? All of the data there is referencing time spent watching TV, not just 'sitting'.  TV watching comes with a different lifestyle than just sitting.  The title is misleading.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did they even read the articles ?
All of the data there is referencing time spent watching TV , not just 'sitting' .
TV watching comes with a different lifestyle than just sitting .
The title is misleading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did they even read the articles?
All of the data there is referencing time spent watching TV, not just 'sitting'.
TV watching comes with a different lifestyle than just sitting.
The title is misleading.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830846</id>
	<title>I've found the solution!</title>
	<author>Pingmaster</author>
	<datestamp>1263997200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/bags/a988/" title="thinkgeek.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/bags/a988/</a> [thinkgeek.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.thinkgeek.com/computing/bags/a988/ [ thinkgeek.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/bags/a988/ [thinkgeek.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834704</id>
	<title>Study from University of Missouri</title>
	<author>notjonny</author>
	<datestamp>1264013580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An actual study here <a href="http://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/1115-hamilton-inactivity.php" title="missouri.edu" rel="nofollow">http://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/1115-hamilton-inactivity.php</a> [missouri.edu] explaining why standing is important.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...and I've been standing at my desk for a while now.  <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonsphotos/2255538445/" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonsphotos/2255538445/</a> [flickr.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An actual study here http : //munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/1115-hamilton-inactivity.php [ missouri.edu ] explaining why standing is important .
...and I 've been standing at my desk for a while now .
http : //www.flickr.com/photos/jonsphotos/2255538445/ [ flickr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An actual study here http://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/1115-hamilton-inactivity.php [missouri.edu] explaining why standing is important.
...and I've been standing at my desk for a while now.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonsphotos/2255538445/ [flickr.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834920</id>
	<title>Stand up desk</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1264014600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also known as a drafting table.
</p><p>Even if you use a chair or stool most of the time, standing up for an hour or so (cumulatively) a day keeps the leg muscles working.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also known as a drafting table .
Even if you use a chair or stool most of the time , standing up for an hour or so ( cumulatively ) a day keeps the leg muscles working .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also known as a drafting table.
Even if you use a chair or stool most of the time, standing up for an hour or so (cumulatively) a day keeps the leg muscles working.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830018</id>
	<title>I get plenty of exercise...</title>
	<author>Khyber</author>
	<datestamp>1263987420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... raging at people, I swear I've got enough typing finger strength to tap so hard on a fretboard as to leave my fingerprints in the wood!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... raging at people , I swear I 've got enough typing finger strength to tap so hard on a fretboard as to leave my fingerprints in the wood !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... raging at people, I swear I've got enough typing finger strength to tap so hard on a fretboard as to leave my fingerprints in the wood!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830508</id>
	<title>Re:One reason why not moving is making you sick:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263993180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone should be required to read the Hacker's Diet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone should be required to read the Hacker 's Diet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone should be required to read the Hacker's Diet.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834250</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>ca111a</author>
	<datestamp>1264011720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I biked to work couple times, but then decided not to.
The problem is - you share the road with *cars*. So, unless there is a dedicated bike trail or a separate bike lane, it is simply too dangerous. First: the drivers do not want to share the road with a slow moving object - not only bikes, but even seniors for example. Fortunately for seniors, they are usually inside very big and somewhat safe cars. Bicyclists are not. Second: chances of staying intact in an accident for a bicyclist are much lower compared to those of a car driver/passenger. Now, let's combine the first and the second... And I haven't even started with bad weather, visibility issues or intentional desire to hurt a bicyclist (ugly, but possible).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I biked to work couple times , but then decided not to .
The problem is - you share the road with * cars * .
So , unless there is a dedicated bike trail or a separate bike lane , it is simply too dangerous .
First : the drivers do not want to share the road with a slow moving object - not only bikes , but even seniors for example .
Fortunately for seniors , they are usually inside very big and somewhat safe cars .
Bicyclists are not .
Second : chances of staying intact in an accident for a bicyclist are much lower compared to those of a car driver/passenger .
Now , let 's combine the first and the second... And I have n't even started with bad weather , visibility issues or intentional desire to hurt a bicyclist ( ugly , but possible ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I biked to work couple times, but then decided not to.
The problem is - you share the road with *cars*.
So, unless there is a dedicated bike trail or a separate bike lane, it is simply too dangerous.
First: the drivers do not want to share the road with a slow moving object - not only bikes, but even seniors for example.
Fortunately for seniors, they are usually inside very big and somewhat safe cars.
Bicyclists are not.
Second: chances of staying intact in an accident for a bicyclist are much lower compared to those of a car driver/passenger.
Now, let's combine the first and the second... And I haven't even started with bad weather, visibility issues or intentional desire to hurt a bicyclist (ugly, but possible).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30864534</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>thickdiick</author>
	<datestamp>1264159860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Once you build muscle, you're set for life. Muscle burns calories just existing, so you get less fat. And there's no such thing as muscle tissue "turning into fat" or "turning flabby." That's just additional fat accumulating, and eventually, if you don't use the muscles, they are slowly consumed by the body for use as energy. Never has muscle tissue "turned into" fat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Once you build muscle , you 're set for life .
Muscle burns calories just existing , so you get less fat .
And there 's no such thing as muscle tissue " turning into fat " or " turning flabby .
" That 's just additional fat accumulating , and eventually , if you do n't use the muscles , they are slowly consumed by the body for use as energy .
Never has muscle tissue " turned into " fat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once you build muscle, you're set for life.
Muscle burns calories just existing, so you get less fat.
And there's no such thing as muscle tissue "turning into fat" or "turning flabby.
" That's just additional fat accumulating, and eventually, if you don't use the muscles, they are slowly consumed by the body for use as energy.
Never has muscle tissue "turned into" fat.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835398</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>CopaceticOpus</author>
	<datestamp>1264016280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article starts with saying "Every hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18\%". Notice that they didn't say "per day."</p><p>If your risk of death due to heart attack is 0.0001\%, and you watch 8 hours of TV per day, when does death become a certainty?</p><p>0.0001 * (1.18)^(8 * N) = 1</p><p>According to Wolfram Alpha, N = 6.95584. Watch too much TV, and you'll be dead in a week!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article starts with saying " Every hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18 \ % " .
Notice that they did n't say " per day .
" If your risk of death due to heart attack is 0.0001 \ % , and you watch 8 hours of TV per day , when does death become a certainty ? 0.0001 * ( 1.18 ) ^ ( 8 * N ) = 1According to Wolfram Alpha , N = 6.95584 .
Watch too much TV , and you 'll be dead in a week !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article starts with saying "Every hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18\%".
Notice that they didn't say "per day.
"If your risk of death due to heart attack is 0.0001\%, and you watch 8 hours of TV per day, when does death become a certainty?0.0001 * (1.18)^(8 * N) = 1According to Wolfram Alpha, N = 6.95584.
Watch too much TV, and you'll be dead in a week!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835478</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1264016580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The people pointing out you are missing the base risk are correct, but if we go with your assumption that it means you have an 18\% chance of dying, your math is still wrong. 18\% chance of dying after an hour means a 82\% chance of survival.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.82^8 = 20.4\% chance of living after 8 hours. If you flip a coin there's a 50\% chance of heads, but after two flips you have only a 75\% chance of getting at least one head, not a 100\% chance.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The people pointing out you are missing the base risk are correct , but if we go with your assumption that it means you have an 18 \ % chance of dying , your math is still wrong .
18 \ % chance of dying after an hour means a 82 \ % chance of survival .
.82 ^ 8 = 20.4 \ % chance of living after 8 hours .
If you flip a coin there 's a 50 \ % chance of heads , but after two flips you have only a 75 \ % chance of getting at least one head , not a 100 \ % chance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The people pointing out you are missing the base risk are correct, but if we go with your assumption that it means you have an 18\% chance of dying, your math is still wrong.
18\% chance of dying after an hour means a 82\% chance of survival.
.82^8 = 20.4\% chance of living after 8 hours.
If you flip a coin there's a 50\% chance of heads, but after two flips you have only a 75\% chance of getting at least one head, not a 100\% chance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835120</id>
	<title>Re:I'll stay in my sofa</title>
	<author>neonKow</author>
	<datestamp>1264015380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...and people get sick by being alive. Better to be dead; corpses don't catch the flu.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...and people get sick by being alive .
Better to be dead ; corpses do n't catch the flu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and people get sick by being alive.
Better to be dead; corpses don't catch the flu.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831336</id>
	<title>Re:Insurance?</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1264000440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That would not be an excuse.  It would be a reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That would not be an excuse .
It would be a reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would not be an excuse.
It would be a reason.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30838764</id>
	<title>Re:Medical Advice from the Economic Times?</title>
	<author>Vohar</author>
	<datestamp>1263986220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps he was dictating it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps he was dictating it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps he was dictating it?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831232</id>
	<title>Re:I'll stay in my sofa</title>
	<author>ethork</author>
	<datestamp>1263999840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>As an anthropologist, I have to say that this is basically a false picture of human development. As far as archaeologists can tell, even the earliest homo sapiens lived in complicated symbolic worlds oriented towards all kinds of social issues and conflicts. At least <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original\_affluent\_society" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">some anthropologists</a> [wikipedia.org] have suggested that hunter-gatherers were basically better off than contemporary workers -- obviously they consumed less, but also, so goes the argument, wanted less and wanted different things than we would want. And at the very least, the image of early homo sapiens living in a world that consisted of nothing but sex and hunger is false: these people lived in radically different symbolic worlds than us, and, if you want to judge by the huge monuments in Stonehenge or Easter Island, obviously put a ton of effort into keeping these worlds in motion. The human brain has always been more than mere instinct and reflex.

<p>I agree, of course, that we deal with many current problems quite badly, but that seems more like a failure in our collective organization than a failure of our biological circuitry. Suppose we take the people in Haiti who have to dig their loved ones out of collapsed buildings with their bare hands, for lack of heavy equipment to work with. Is that a failure of evolution? No, just a failure of logistics (and politics and economics...) What, exactly, is insightful about complaining about our insufficient evolution in the face of problems that need much more local and immediate solutions?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As an anthropologist , I have to say that this is basically a false picture of human development .
As far as archaeologists can tell , even the earliest homo sapiens lived in complicated symbolic worlds oriented towards all kinds of social issues and conflicts .
At least some anthropologists [ wikipedia.org ] have suggested that hunter-gatherers were basically better off than contemporary workers -- obviously they consumed less , but also , so goes the argument , wanted less and wanted different things than we would want .
And at the very least , the image of early homo sapiens living in a world that consisted of nothing but sex and hunger is false : these people lived in radically different symbolic worlds than us , and , if you want to judge by the huge monuments in Stonehenge or Easter Island , obviously put a ton of effort into keeping these worlds in motion .
The human brain has always been more than mere instinct and reflex .
I agree , of course , that we deal with many current problems quite badly , but that seems more like a failure in our collective organization than a failure of our biological circuitry .
Suppose we take the people in Haiti who have to dig their loved ones out of collapsed buildings with their bare hands , for lack of heavy equipment to work with .
Is that a failure of evolution ?
No , just a failure of logistics ( and politics and economics... ) What , exactly , is insightful about complaining about our insufficient evolution in the face of problems that need much more local and immediate solutions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an anthropologist, I have to say that this is basically a false picture of human development.
As far as archaeologists can tell, even the earliest homo sapiens lived in complicated symbolic worlds oriented towards all kinds of social issues and conflicts.
At least some anthropologists [wikipedia.org] have suggested that hunter-gatherers were basically better off than contemporary workers -- obviously they consumed less, but also, so goes the argument, wanted less and wanted different things than we would want.
And at the very least, the image of early homo sapiens living in a world that consisted of nothing but sex and hunger is false: these people lived in radically different symbolic worlds than us, and, if you want to judge by the huge monuments in Stonehenge or Easter Island, obviously put a ton of effort into keeping these worlds in motion.
The human brain has always been more than mere instinct and reflex.
I agree, of course, that we deal with many current problems quite badly, but that seems more like a failure in our collective organization than a failure of our biological circuitry.
Suppose we take the people in Haiti who have to dig their loved ones out of collapsed buildings with their bare hands, for lack of heavy equipment to work with.
Is that a failure of evolution?
No, just a failure of logistics (and politics and economics...) What, exactly, is insightful about complaining about our insufficient evolution in the face of problems that need much more local and immediate solutions?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30833164</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>krotkruton</author>
	<datestamp>1264007880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Way to find a practical way to get healthy... until you get testicular cancer and die.<br> <br>
Once again we need to remember to do things in moderation.  One would think that barbers / stylists would be in better shape than desk jockeys as they are at least walking around all day and moving, yet they can develop major shoulder / back / neck problems from their repetitive tasks.  Laborers tend to have shorter lifespans due to the strain it puts on their bodies.
Eat too much junk food, health problems.  Drink too much pop, health problems.  Drink too much water, health problems.<br> <br>
Moderation, moderation, moderation.  (But seriously, congrats on getting the motivation to bike to work every day)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Way to find a practical way to get healthy... until you get testicular cancer and die .
Once again we need to remember to do things in moderation .
One would think that barbers / stylists would be in better shape than desk jockeys as they are at least walking around all day and moving , yet they can develop major shoulder / back / neck problems from their repetitive tasks .
Laborers tend to have shorter lifespans due to the strain it puts on their bodies .
Eat too much junk food , health problems .
Drink too much pop , health problems .
Drink too much water , health problems .
Moderation , moderation , moderation .
( But seriously , congrats on getting the motivation to bike to work every day )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Way to find a practical way to get healthy... until you get testicular cancer and die.
Once again we need to remember to do things in moderation.
One would think that barbers / stylists would be in better shape than desk jockeys as they are at least walking around all day and moving, yet they can develop major shoulder / back / neck problems from their repetitive tasks.
Laborers tend to have shorter lifespans due to the strain it puts on their bodies.
Eat too much junk food, health problems.
Drink too much pop, health problems.
Drink too much water, health problems.
Moderation, moderation, moderation.
(But seriously, congrats on getting the motivation to bike to work every day)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834644</id>
	<title>junk science</title>
	<author>bcrowell</author>
	<datestamp>1264013340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you take a look at the <a href="http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/CIRCULATIONAHA.109.894824v1?maxtoshow=&amp;HITS=10&amp;hits=10&amp;RESULTFORMAT=&amp;fulltext=dunstan&amp;searchid=1&amp;FIRSTINDEX=0&amp;resourcetype=HWCIT" title="ahajournals.org">paper</a> [ahajournals.org], which is online and not paywalled, it's obvious junk science. They claim a correlation between mortality and sitting, and the abstract states that the variables they controlled for were "age, sex, waist circumference, and exercise." Well, watching eight hours a day of TV is probably negatively correlated with a lot of other variables, including general health, education, income, intelligence, and employment. And I would guess that mortality is probably also strongly negatively correlated with general health (duh), education, income, intelligence, and employment. On the second page of the paper, they say that they surveyed the participants for "demographic attributes" including education, but note that education is *not* listed in the abstract as one of the variables they controlled for. Look at table 1, and they show a clear anticorrelation between education and television viewing. On p. 387 they talk about how they tried to minimize the effect of the anticorrelations involving general health, but their method is pretty crude.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you take a look at the paper [ ahajournals.org ] , which is online and not paywalled , it 's obvious junk science .
They claim a correlation between mortality and sitting , and the abstract states that the variables they controlled for were " age , sex , waist circumference , and exercise .
" Well , watching eight hours a day of TV is probably negatively correlated with a lot of other variables , including general health , education , income , intelligence , and employment .
And I would guess that mortality is probably also strongly negatively correlated with general health ( duh ) , education , income , intelligence , and employment .
On the second page of the paper , they say that they surveyed the participants for " demographic attributes " including education , but note that education is * not * listed in the abstract as one of the variables they controlled for .
Look at table 1 , and they show a clear anticorrelation between education and television viewing .
On p. 387 they talk about how they tried to minimize the effect of the anticorrelations involving general health , but their method is pretty crude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you take a look at the paper [ahajournals.org], which is online and not paywalled, it's obvious junk science.
They claim a correlation between mortality and sitting, and the abstract states that the variables they controlled for were "age, sex, waist circumference, and exercise.
" Well, watching eight hours a day of TV is probably negatively correlated with a lot of other variables, including general health, education, income, intelligence, and employment.
And I would guess that mortality is probably also strongly negatively correlated with general health (duh), education, income, intelligence, and employment.
On the second page of the paper, they say that they surveyed the participants for "demographic attributes" including education, but note that education is *not* listed in the abstract as one of the variables they controlled for.
Look at table 1, and they show a clear anticorrelation between education and television viewing.
On p. 387 they talk about how they tried to minimize the effect of the anticorrelations involving general health, but their method is pretty crude.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30834838</id>
	<title>Where is correlation is not causation?</title>
	<author>edraven</author>
	<datestamp>1264014180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>C'mon, one of us might have forgotten!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>C'mon , one of us might have forgotten !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>C'mon, one of us might have forgotten!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831174</id>
	<title>Re:Synonyms</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1263999540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't read the FA of course (eye muss knot bee knew hear), but I just don't believe this. I'm convinced that it's exersize that's bad for you, not its lack. Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day? That's right, you're in pain. Pain is your body's way of saying "stop that, you fool."</p><p>Running is a drug addiction. It's addictive because the only reason heroin works is because heroin fits your endorphin receptors. The runner "hits the wall" and gets a "runner's high" -- that high is the endorphins kicking in to combat the pain.</p><p>Moderate exersize is ok; I like to walk. But if you do it until it hurts, it can't possibly be good for you.</p><p>I go to "working man's" bars where construstion workers hang out. These guys spend all day in heavy exersize, and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me. If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad?</p><p>The notion that exersize, especially exersize that results in sore muscles is good for you is an excuse by drug addled jocks. The fact that it's your body producing the drug doesn't matter -- it's a drug addiction, and "it's good for you" is an excuse to keep getting high.</p><p>The only difference between a runner and a heroin addict is heroin addicts don't blindly run out in front of your car because they're too stoned to pay attention.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't read the FA of course ( eye muss knot bee knew hear ) , but I just do n't believe this .
I 'm convinced that it 's exersize that 's bad for you , not its lack .
Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day ?
That 's right , you 're in pain .
Pain is your body 's way of saying " stop that , you fool .
" Running is a drug addiction .
It 's addictive because the only reason heroin works is because heroin fits your endorphin receptors .
The runner " hits the wall " and gets a " runner 's high " -- that high is the endorphins kicking in to combat the pain.Moderate exersize is ok ; I like to walk .
But if you do it until it hurts , it ca n't possibly be good for you.I go to " working man 's " bars where construstion workers hang out .
These guys spend all day in heavy exersize , and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me .
If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad ? The notion that exersize , especially exersize that results in sore muscles is good for you is an excuse by drug addled jocks .
The fact that it 's your body producing the drug does n't matter -- it 's a drug addiction , and " it 's good for you " is an excuse to keep getting high.The only difference between a runner and a heroin addict is heroin addicts do n't blindly run out in front of your car because they 're too stoned to pay attention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't read the FA of course (eye muss knot bee knew hear), but I just don't believe this.
I'm convinced that it's exersize that's bad for you, not its lack.
Do some physical labor and what do you feel like the next day?
That's right, you're in pain.
Pain is your body's way of saying "stop that, you fool.
"Running is a drug addiction.
It's addictive because the only reason heroin works is because heroin fits your endorphin receptors.
The runner "hits the wall" and gets a "runner's high" -- that high is the endorphins kicking in to combat the pain.Moderate exersize is ok; I like to walk.
But if you do it until it hurts, it can't possibly be good for you.I go to "working man's" bars where construstion workers hang out.
These guys spend all day in heavy exersize, and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me.
If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad?The notion that exersize, especially exersize that results in sore muscles is good for you is an excuse by drug addled jocks.
The fact that it's your body producing the drug doesn't matter -- it's a drug addiction, and "it's good for you" is an excuse to keep getting high.The only difference between a runner and a heroin addict is heroin addicts don't blindly run out in front of your car because they're too stoned to pay attention.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830718</id>
	<title>Re:Medical Advice from the Economic Times?</title>
	<author>moonbender</author>
	<datestamp>1263996060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow. His head must have hit the Submit button falling down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
His head must have hit the Submit button falling down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
His head must have hit the Submit button falling down.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30830956</id>
	<title>If it wasn't for inactivity...</title>
	<author>Old Sparky</author>
	<datestamp>1263998040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...I wouldn't have any activity at all!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...I would n't have any activity at all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...I wouldn't have any activity at all!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30833890</id>
	<title>Re:Medical Advice from the Economic Times?</title>
	<author>mcrbids</author>
	<datestamp>1264010340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>EVERY hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18\%, an<br>Australian study found.</p></div><p>*facepalm*</p></div><p>My thought too - this summary is AWFUL! You'd think that everybody would die in a 5 hour TV stretch!</p><p>But they're not talking about LITERAL hours, they're talking about AVERAGE hours spent per day. And when you look at it that way, it makes a load of sense.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>EVERY hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18 \ % , anAustralian study found .
* facepalm * My thought too - this summary is AWFUL !
You 'd think that everybody would die in a 5 hour TV stretch ! But they 're not talking about LITERAL hours , they 're talking about AVERAGE hours spent per day .
And when you look at it that way , it makes a load of sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EVERY hour spent sitting idle in front of the television raises the risk of premature death from heart disease by 18\%, anAustralian study found.
*facepalm*My thought too - this summary is AWFUL!
You'd think that everybody would die in a 5 hour TV stretch!But they're not talking about LITERAL hours, they're talking about AVERAGE hours spent per day.
And when you look at it that way, it makes a load of sense.
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	<title>I'm gonna live forever...</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1264000800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fortunately I don't watch TV at all, since I read Slashdot all day...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fortunately I do n't watch TV at all , since I read Slashdot all day.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fortunately I don't watch TV at all, since I read Slashdot all day...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30833050</id>
	<title>Re:Misinformation &amp;&amp; Contradictions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264007460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Current advice suggests what I do (cycle to work, sit a lot, cycle home) is sufficient exercise. If the sitting a lot is itself harmful then I'd like to know.</i></p><p>This article is about how cycling twice a day is *not* sufficient exercise, and that sitting a lot itself is harmful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Current advice suggests what I do ( cycle to work , sit a lot , cycle home ) is sufficient exercise .
If the sitting a lot is itself harmful then I 'd like to know.This article is about how cycling twice a day is * not * sufficient exercise , and that sitting a lot itself is harmful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Current advice suggests what I do (cycle to work, sit a lot, cycle home) is sufficient exercise.
If the sitting a lot is itself harmful then I'd like to know.This article is about how cycling twice a day is *not* sufficient exercise, and that sitting a lot itself is harmful.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30835552</id>
	<title>Re:Synonyms</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1264016820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I go to "working man's" bars where construstion workers hang out. These guys spend all day in heavy exersize, and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me. If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad?</p></div><p>I worked in construction with these guys.  There are lots of reason construction workers look older In construction work, you almost never get your heart rate up, so even though they get more exercise than a sedentary person, it doesn't mean they are getting good exercise.  Secondly, construction work is often outside, and the sun will age you more than anything.  Thirdly, have you paid attention to what construction workers eat?  I know one guy who basically lives on canned soup and ramen.  You're going to age pretty quick if your body doesn't have the nutrients it needs to rebuild itself.<br> <br>
You seem to have some weird irrational hatred of running.  I'm going to say, if you are pushing yourself so hard that it hurts, you are doing something wrong.  You DO need to distinguish between the pain of overcoming your laziness and the pain that says, "stop!" however.  There's a big difference, but both hurt; learn to distinguish the two. I mean seriously, are you really going to deny all the scientific evidence that shows that running is good for you?  Get on the same page as reality.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I go to " working man 's " bars where construstion workers hang out .
These guys spend all day in heavy exersize , and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me .
If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad ? I worked in construction with these guys .
There are lots of reason construction workers look older In construction work , you almost never get your heart rate up , so even though they get more exercise than a sedentary person , it does n't mean they are getting good exercise .
Secondly , construction work is often outside , and the sun will age you more than anything .
Thirdly , have you paid attention to what construction workers eat ?
I know one guy who basically lives on canned soup and ramen .
You 're going to age pretty quick if your body does n't have the nutrients it needs to rebuild itself .
You seem to have some weird irrational hatred of running .
I 'm going to say , if you are pushing yourself so hard that it hurts , you are doing something wrong .
You DO need to distinguish between the pain of overcoming your laziness and the pain that says , " stop !
" however .
There 's a big difference , but both hurt ; learn to distinguish the two .
I mean seriously , are you really going to deny all the scientific evidence that shows that running is good for you ?
Get on the same page as reality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I go to "working man's" bars where construstion workers hang out.
These guys spend all day in heavy exersize, and the ones ten years my junior look ten years older than me.
If exersize is so good for you then why do I look so young while these guys look like they could be my dad?I worked in construction with these guys.
There are lots of reason construction workers look older In construction work, you almost never get your heart rate up, so even though they get more exercise than a sedentary person, it doesn't mean they are getting good exercise.
Secondly, construction work is often outside, and the sun will age you more than anything.
Thirdly, have you paid attention to what construction workers eat?
I know one guy who basically lives on canned soup and ramen.
You're going to age pretty quick if your body doesn't have the nutrients it needs to rebuild itself.
You seem to have some weird irrational hatred of running.
I'm going to say, if you are pushing yourself so hard that it hurts, you are doing something wrong.
You DO need to distinguish between the pain of overcoming your laziness and the pain that says, "stop!
" however.
There's a big difference, but both hurt; learn to distinguish the two.
I mean seriously, are you really going to deny all the scientific evidence that shows that running is good for you?
Get on the same page as reality.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832564</id>
	<title>Something fishy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264005840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is resting in a comfortable armchair different from sleeping in a bed? If I fall asleep in front of the TV am I at risk all night?<br>This study sounds like bullshit to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is resting in a comfortable armchair different from sleeping in a bed ?
If I fall asleep in front of the TV am I at risk all night ? This study sounds like bullshit to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is resting in a comfortable armchair different from sleeping in a bed?
If I fall asleep in front of the TV am I at risk all night?This study sounds like bullshit to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829882</id>
	<title>My excuse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263985680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't remember things when I'm standing.  I think its because I keep all my thoughts in my lap and when I stand up, they fall on the floor and roll under the desk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't remember things when I 'm standing .
I think its because I keep all my thoughts in my lap and when I stand up , they fall on the floor and roll under the desk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't remember things when I'm standing.
I think its because I keep all my thoughts in my lap and when I stand up, they fall on the floor and roll under the desk.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831052</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263998820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>TFA is obviously mistaken on at least one point. They say that every hour spent watching TV increases your risk of premature death by heart attack by 18\%... which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV, you will likely have died 1.44 times. I know that they meant "daily" but even so. The numbers do not add up.</i></p><p>Wow, good job with the simple arithmetic there.  The only one who is "obviously mistaken" is you and the other dozen cretins who posted this same "objection".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA is obviously mistaken on at least one point .
They say that every hour spent watching TV increases your risk of premature death by heart attack by 18 \ % ... which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV , you will likely have died 1.44 times .
I know that they meant " daily " but even so .
The numbers do not add up.Wow , good job with the simple arithmetic there .
The only one who is " obviously mistaken " is you and the other dozen cretins who posted this same " objection " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA is obviously mistaken on at least one point.
They say that every hour spent watching TV increases your risk of premature death by heart attack by 18\%... which means that if you spend 8 hours watching TV, you will likely have died 1.44 times.
I know that they meant "daily" but even so.
The numbers do not add up.Wow, good job with the simple arithmetic there.
The only one who is "obviously mistaken" is you and the other dozen cretins who posted this same "objection".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30833582</id>
	<title>I'm fidgety</title>
	<author>OldSoldier</author>
	<datestamp>1264009200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm more fidgety than my co-workers (but less fidgety than some I know who regularly wear out chairs). I used to think this behavior was good for my back... but now it seems it may also be good for my heart?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm more fidgety than my co-workers ( but less fidgety than some I know who regularly wear out chairs ) .
I used to think this behavior was good for my back... but now it seems it may also be good for my heart ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm more fidgety than my co-workers (but less fidgety than some I know who regularly wear out chairs).
I used to think this behavior was good for my back... but now it seems it may also be good for my heart?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30831674</id>
	<title>"Too Long Is Bad"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264001940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Too Long Is Bad"....Isn't that the defintion of Too Long....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Too Long Is Bad " ....Is n't that the defintion of Too Long... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Too Long Is Bad"....Isn't that the defintion of Too Long....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30832296</id>
	<title>Re:My excuse</title>
	<author>RobDude</author>
	<datestamp>1264004760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Muscle doesn't turn to flab.  Ever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Muscle does n't turn to flab .
Ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Muscle doesn't turn to flab.
Ever.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_20_011244.30829938</id>
	<title>Re:Synonyms</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263986220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whats the problem on this 2 words? "Sedentary behavior"

Is there another english word which was overloaded 100 of times in its meaning to reflect that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whats the problem on this 2 words ?
" Sedentary behavior " Is there another english word which was overloaded 100 of times in its meaning to reflect that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whats the problem on this 2 words?
"Sedentary behavior"

Is there another english word which was overloaded 100 of times in its meaning to reflect that?</sentencetext>
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